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Welcome, everyone, to the fifty-eighth installment of Mecha Space Pirate Quest, our first chapter on /qst/! Let's all give the new board a chance, shall we? As always, I'm Wong, your host, and you are once again Corporal Amos A. Wedge of the UJCIDF Special Operations, Units, and Logistics force assigned to the planet Qu'lir, pilot of a Pumpkinseed II Medium Striker-class mech.

Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Mecha+Space+Pirate+Quest%2C+Collective+Game%2C+mecha
Master Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sSHs0QmF
Upgrade Menu: http://pastebin.com/QQQzkFZe
List of Moves: http://pastebin.com/HSdyCe2y
Rogues' Gallery: http://pastebin.com/E9ZcDLfG

Last time, you made the manliest decision a man can make, to volunteer for an incredibly dangerous mission in order to protect your comrades. Although the effective forces of the Cicero have been reduced to just eighteen mecha, nine of them will now be sent out to defend the Martian Light Cruiser Cassim's Folly and its remaining Scimitar escorts from a Paladin of Avalon. Let's see how that goes, shall we?
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Hope people notice you moved
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>>572315
Right then. Hope we can load up those mantas with some smoke bombs, flash ombs, and the like, because making it so she can't see us or go right at us will be a god send.

Her speed is going to be rediculous if she can keep up with us on Mantas, so using them as a buffer or means to ram her might be a option(they could take a few sniper shots so they are rather sturdy.). In the end though, we just have to hope we take out a leg and withdraw with the ship. Killing her is secondary to everyone getting out alive and returning to base fast in case of a two prong strike.
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>>572315
>first thread on new board does not actually feature the main space pirate protagonist
Boy, are any newcomers going to be confused.
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Lieutenant Asphodel, busy supervising his five underlings in readying their mecha for immediate launch, looks suspiciously at the three of you as you approach in your pilot suits. but is initially preoccupied with the regulation preflight checks. When he does finally acknowledge you, it's with his back turned and his shoulders rigid, “What do you want? I've got a lot to think about and not much time to spare on you.” He still has a black eye, presumably from Simon.

You're not in space, but you do up the flight seals anyway. It's practically habit by now. Your helmet is tucked under your arm, smooth and rounded but still quite suitable for clubbing Asphodel unconscious. There are a million sarcastic things you could say to this prissy blonde asshole, but now isn't the time or place and Garret reminds you of it by a stiff elbow to the ribs. Simon is as tense as a fishing line with a Paladin-sized lunker on the hook, but Jove bless him, he's keeping it together for now. Garret's heels click together sharply, and he salutes, “This is a special operation, sir, it's appropriate for SOUL C to accompany you. If you'll have us.”

[Continued]
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>>572340

Mantas have a rocket launcher as part of their standard equipment, and although the Manta itself is pretty new it's already become commonplace to load them up with smoke, chaff, and flash rockets because the mecha riding them is likely carrying the heavier ordnance.

>>572335

I'd be more worried about that if it hadn't been a blanket exodus of all quests to /qst/.

>>572341

Yep, they're probably looking at the archives going "who the fuck are Clemmy and Fatima?"
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Asphodel fixes him with pale blue eyes and is clearly on the verge of a withering rebuttal until he hears the last sentence. Garret nudges you again, with a bit more force, and you and Simon both salute. “We volunteered, sir. That Paladin owes the Cicero blood.” The Sergeant insists.

A complex cocktail of emotions wash over Asphodel's face, but the end result surprises you more than any flash of anger or sulky refusal you'd imagined. Hell, the way you'd envisioned it going, Captain Clearwater would have to force him into taking the three of you along. He salutes back, smiles a little, and lowers his hand, “At ease, SOUL C.” He pauses, then adds, in a less formal voice, “You know...we probably aren't coming back from this, right? I'd think that you, at least, would be able to get some kind of exemption.”

Garret squares his shoulders, “We're all soldiers, sir. None of us signed up to sit this war out. Besides, you'd think the Asphodel banking clan would be trying to get you an exemption too. I don't give a damn who my father is, we have comrades dying out there.”

The Lieutenant's smile acquires a bitter edge, “They already tried. I don't have a penny waiting for me back home anymore, that was the cost of doing my duty. As far as my family is concerned, I'm already dead.” He shakes his head brusquely, “I guess your unit isn't just for show after all.” He clears his throat, then surprises you again, extending his hand. He gives each of you a firm handshake in turn, “It's been an honor serving with you gentlemen, I only wish I'd realized it sooner. You're a tough bunch. Corporal, if that rifle of yours works as well as it did during your last mission, you're welcome to feed me my own boots anytime. Mount up, let's burn sky.”

[Continued, liking this new character limit. It's larger than /tg/'s, isn't it?]
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>>572366
This would require them to be aware that characters named Clemmy and Fatima are present in this story, which has not yet been apparent to them up till now.
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We can do this anons, we've beaten the odds plenty of times before. But no matter what we have to make sure Garma makes it out of here alive and free no matter what we have to do
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>>572341
Well, he's betrayed his fanbase already, so he might as well fuck things up for the newbies, complete the set.
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>>572392
You realise if he betrayed us it would be not running the quest any more and not telling us?
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>>572366
Good, then I suggest preparations of Operation 'Fuck that noise'. Simply put, Flash grenade to face to blind her, then dropping every heavy missile we have and sniper as well. Snipers first to waste the active shield's auto block. Then we use some smoke clouds to hide behind and disperse our formation as to avoid possible AOEs. If she approaches someone, use the manta as a shield. If it seems like she'll end ya next turn, activate self destruct and ram her with the manta if possible. Be sure to bail. We win if we escape or she flees, so that should be our priority.
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>>572392

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybnv1KN31Nw
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New mech design. It's a heavy mech to compliment the Roc. Let me know what you think of the stats and backstory. http://pastebin.com/TmFxwhjU
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As you ride the liftwire up to the cockpit of your Pumpkinseed II, while the technicians prep your Manta, you spot Irina watching you from the upper balcony of the bay. There are too many people around for her to give you a proper goodbye, but your eyes meet, and she gives you a subtle wave and clearly forces herself to smile. She looks like she's been crying. Marilyn, too, isn't her usual cheerful self, her ears drooping low and her tail hanging around her ankles. You feel an invisible hand squeeze your stomach as you wonder if this is the last time you'll ever see them. For luck, you each make your mech salute in unison, and solemnly intone, “Justice and peace.” If it worked for Bluegill Joe, it might keep you lot alive too. Squad by squad, your nine mecha and their Mantas take to the launching catapults, and from there into the sky.

[Continued with some stats, to refresh you on your mech]
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YOU ARE: Amos Wedge (Age 18)

Attractiveness: 7
Body Type: 10
Cool: 8
Empathy: 6
Intelligence: 8 (Awareness +1)
[Education]: +3
Luck: 7
Movement Allowance: 7
Reflexes: 10 (Dodge & Escape +5, Mecha Fighting +6, Mecha Gunnery +6 Mecha Melee +6, Mecha Missiles +6 Mecha Pilot +6, Melee +3, Handgun +3, Stealth +2, Zero-G +1)
Technical Ability: 8

Rookie Bonus: Anime Hero

Luck Points 7 (refreshes at end of session), Maneuver Pool 1 (refreshes at end of combat, otherwise identical to Luck)

UJCIDF PUMPKINSEED II Amos Custom
Medium Striker Torso: C/S/K 8, 4 tons
Medium Striker Head: C/S/K 4, 2 tons
Medium Striker L. Arm: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
Medium Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 5, 2 tons

Armor: Heavy Striker (5 SP, 5 CP, 2.5 tons) on all locations

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Torso Storage Module (1 CP, 1 Space), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP)

Armament: Pumpkinseed IIs have a handheld Beam Rapier and an Active Shield sub-servo on their left elbow, in addition to the usual ranged options. This one has an upgraded beam rifle as its ranged option, making it a bit stronger than the norm. They also each have a single Heavy Missile concealed inside the right forearm for emergencies and a second in the head.
Handheld Light Beam Rapier: WA +1, 5K (only 2K of structure), EMW (treats SP as 4 less than usual), 5 CP, 5 Spaces, 1 ton
Arm-Mounted Active Shield: DA -1, SP 8, 17 CP, 4 Spaces, 4 tons
Amos Custom Beam Rifle: Range 500m, WA +1, 6K (1K of structure), BV 3, Infinite Ammo, 24.5 CP, 5 Spaces, 0.5 tons
Arm-Mounted Heavy Missile: Range 1200m, WA +2, 12K, 1 rocket, 3 CP, 3 Spaces, 0.5 tons
Head-Mounted Heavy Missile: Range 1200m, WA +2, 12K, 1 rocket, 3 CP, 3 Spaces, 0.5 tons

Thrusters & Speed: 5 per leg, 2 in the torso. Moves 400 meters per turn in flight, or can run 250m. 12 CP.
Total Weight: 38.5 tons
Total Cost: 140 CP
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>>572416
Not a bad design. Sort of like a lighter MP kaiser, and you manage to make a 140 cp middleweight. Certainly would put pressure on some tournament mechs.
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>>572392

You mean by moving here? It wasn't optional, you know.
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>>572416

Why does it have three shields?
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>>572437
I'm worried I fucked up the math. But yeah I like it. If anyone has ideas for signature weapons let me know
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>>572452
Because some of the more expensive weapons require cheaper shields
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The rain falls in silvery curtains across the emerald fields and thick woods of Qu'lir. The air itself seems a dull, leaden grey, dark and dismal save for where nine clusters of light break through the gloom. Pale cones of light sweep slowly through the air, the spotlights of your three squads scanning constantly for signs of another ambush. There's silence over the comms, with a bit of terse chatter. The Mantas can clock around 634 KPH at full pursuit speed, but beneath these swirling clouds and the tenebrous light, it almost feels as though you're flying in place, only the glimpses of farms and woodlands passing by underneath you giving any sense of progress.

“Hey, Corporal.” Asphodel's voice sounds subdued as he hails you from the nose of your arrowhead formation.

“Yeah, Lieutenant?” You answer, scanning your instruments for any sign of the Paladin.

“If you get angry at me for saying this, I'll understand, but...be careful with her.” His snow-white Pumpkinseed II, with somewhat elaborate golden trim, stands out next to its two standard squadmates and the trio of Bucephalus Palomino IIs making up the third squad, “There are things you don't know about Irina Gaunt.”

“I know enough.” You answer shortly. You don't have time for this bullshit right now, you were just starting to lose interest in breaking the Lieutenant's teeth with the butt of your sidearm and you don't want to spoil the good mood.

“I thought you'd say that. I don't want to ruin whatever you've got going on, but she's the sort of person to do what she wants and apologize for it later. Her sister was, at least, and people died for it. Damn it, it's not my place to tell you this, but this antipathy she has for the Bull of Io is pretty personal, and it involves family. It's your own business if she burns you, but if she burns the Cicero, I've got friends who'll suffer for it. It's unheard of even for SOUL for a Bahamutcorp rep to have the kind of authority she does, there are communications she gets from the Solar System so classified that even Captain Clearwater isn't allowed to be in the room when she's decrypting them.” For once, he sounds hesitant, and strangely sincere.

“What are you saying?” You're not sure how to feel about this. Yesterday you would have flipped his Manta for talking about Irina like that, but...there is a strange intensity to her sometimes, and he sounds like he's saying this out of obligation rather than spite. For that matter, Irina doesn't defer to Marilyn the way even the Bahamutcorp technicians who openly resented having to work under a Bucephalus mechanic deferred to Triple-C on the Cincinnatus, your old posting. Not for the first time, you wonder why she was so intent on keeping you out of her garden.

“I don't know, I don't know anything concrete, that's the problem. Just be careful and keep your eyes open. More people than just your squad are depending on it.” He mutters.

[Continued]
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>>572463
Well, 12 cp worth of thrusters is 12 thrusters, so be sure to put those somewhere. Don't know what you mean by vernier; the vernier system that adds a cost? Might want to jot that down and put a final cost just in case. Something I have done when making the Cardinal, Rook, Roc, and Delphinus is to do a sort of sub total at each step so I know where I am at. Helps me when I need to alter the design due to a mistake.
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Ooh, sweet now all the quests I followed have showed up here, nice to see ya wong, mostly gonna lurk on my phone though.
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>>572443
>>572452

Consarnit /m/!
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Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>572430
How come we haven't gotten any ip for intimidate?

Lets see how the dice are feeling tonight?
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>>572463
7.5 tons seems a little restrictive in terms of weaponry, since you'll only be able to mount 1 shield and 1 weapon, unless you take the really light ones which generally don't deal much damage.

In terms of signature weapons, a Wide-Angle beam weapon would probably be fun, as would a dedicated Shock weapon. I'm not sure you'd have CP to make either of them effective, though.

Perhaps an Energy Pool-based variant instead?
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>>572501
I see the dice still love you thunder.
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>>572501
really thunder? even here?
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>>572491

It's interesting that this is one of the few mecha where I haven't had to wholesale rip the verniers or most of the Weight Efficiency from their original stats. As stated earlier, when presented with a mech that has significant vernier use, I generally rip that part out and ignore it, because the technology to to achieve that level of MV reduction through additional mobility doesn't yet exist. The Rocs, for instance, and the Cardinal have had this done to them. Reducing it to -3 from -4 is fine...but it would still constitute a VERY advanced mech. Keep in mind that the Archen's claim to fame is that it's a Heavy Striker that moves like a Pumpkinseed.
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>>572503
It is doable. An active shield and one ace weapon would be just at par for gear. Of course, you could go for simple fair, like an active and a swath of generic weaponry. ACE weapons seem to be just that. Specialized weapons designed for a specialist.
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>>572491
Thanks. I was trying to figure out a sufficently Weeby Katana for Oda. Figuring out how to create a secondary mode that allows for Weeby battojutsu nonsense
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>>572489
>Her sister
And theres the confirmation I was looking for

>>572508
>>572510
What can I say
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Nice to see you Mr. Wong.

Was a bit worried you wouldn't be continuing due to the fun nazi mod sending us to the qst camp.

Glad to see my worries were unfounded.

To commemorate this occasion, Domon's mech and theme song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEjgPh4SEmU
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>>572522

I might have beaten you to it, his heat katanas are AP and Quick now.
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>>572534
Well we've got hiro on a /tg/ thread discussing /tg/ moderation and regulations.

Theres arguments on allowing quests back on /tg/ right now.
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>>572515
Yeah, not going to lie, I do go maneuver crazy when designing mechs. I have been planning a ultra heavy called the Trojan that would require a lot of stuff to move. Specifically command armor with enough dedicated thrusters to get it to 8 MA. Of course, it will still have the giant ball and chain. Might split it in two and weapon link it.
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Caught up just as the last thread wrapped up and have been itching for a new thread since. Glad to you up and running Wong, despite the push to /qst/.
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>>572553
Nice to see new blood, tell me anon Who is best girl?
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>>572534

I'm more worried about the board health of /tg/. /a/ and /m/ thrive because they have a healthy concentration of shitposts. /tg/ relies on shitposts more than either of them for good content because of the whole "let's go offtopic and make something cool out of this" paradigm, but when any thread that could remotely trigger someone is deleted that can't happen. We all saw what happened to /co/ when a mod got an agenda, we just have to hope the same doesn't happen to /tg/.
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>>572535
But can they fire sword beams?
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>>572558
Asking the tough questions Thunder. They all honestly have something to love about them, but if I'm forced to pick, Sam.
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>>572546

Interesting.

Doubt much will come of it though.

Besides it's not like I hate the qst board itself, I just hate the goddamn way they forced everyone onto it like a concentration camp.
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>>572547

That's because reducing that penalty is the logical thing to do when designing a mech. It's just that, for the sake of balance, the tech level in this game isn't quite there. The one mech that canonically has a MV of -1 is exceptional and rather small.
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>>572532
Care to share your notes with the rest of the class?
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>>572569
That answer is acceptable

>>572579
Not just yet, I'm sure you can figure it out
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>>572574
It's Stern's mech, isn't it?
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>>572546

My only thought is that /tg/ needs less moderation if quests are going to stay on /qst/, to ensure it doesn't become one of the extremely low-traffic boards. I understand the FBI moderates /b/ now, but we don't need their interns modding elsewhere when we have our own autists to do the job.

>>572566

Oh my~
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>>572535
I wad thinking a cool down mega attack that has the sheath use explosives or gauss systems to draw the sword extra quick for more damage. Oda would blow all his luck on it like he does with missles
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>>572573
Same. I think /qst/ is a flawed but workable place but quests still should also be allowed to be posted on /tg/ as well.

Right now its embroiled in ye olde Questfag vs AntiQuestfag shit right now.
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>>572583

I'll just say that you've seen it already and noted that it was clearly a modified Bluegill
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>>572585
If quests get allowed back on /tg/, will you move back?
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>>572586
So what you're getting at is, you want Oda to pilot this mecha?
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>>572587
But what about the Skubfags?
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>>572597
Can we get a headband on it?
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>>572597

Oh he'd love that.

We need to commission one for him.
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>>572586
>>572597
I think he wants Oda to pilot Jetstream Sam.

Railgun katana/shock baton sheath combo would be badass as fuck.
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>>572608
gimme a sec, was working on a bucephalus logo to match the bahamut one I made a bit back but i'm game.
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>>572515
To be fair, it's supposed to be the Elite Mook/ Minor ace mech by design. Also supposed to horrifically bully any mech that any rival pirates have.
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You reply with a grunt, and are spared from having to decide what to say in response by Garret's interruption.

“Cassim's Folly spotted, dead ahead. It's moving at a crawl though, barely a quarter of full speed, otherwise we would have run into it sooner. Reading ten small mecha and one large one...scratch that, nine small mecha. Holy Minerva, did one of them just ram her!?” There's a pause, and you hear the familiar sound of Garret hitting his ASP monitor with his fist. He subscribes to the theory of percussive force to deal with recalcitrant equipment, “There's some kind of weird interference, I got an electromagnetic signal across an entire swathe of airspace, this can't be right.”

“Some kind of jamming signal, perhaps?” Suggests a girl's voice from one of the Palominos. You vaguely remember a dark-haired girl...not the one who's been stalking you...with a headband and a sergeant's uniform. She looked young, cute, and peppy, but you never really talked to her. You're guessing she's the leader of the third squad.

[Continued]
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>>572591

I don't know, won't it be awkward on people reading the archives to have to go from one suptg archive to another just to get a few threads? Granted, I've had less than a week to think about it.
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>>572583
Probably way off with this but you think she's Roarke's aunt or something? only thing I can really get from family, sister, and her being a Bucephalus employee
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>>572637

Archive tags are cross linked on /qst/ and /tg/ suptg archives. They won't notice a thing.
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>>572641
Nope, I'll give you a hint. Who is close to Roarke whose's made a deadly mistake
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Anybody got any ideas for some upgraded mechs for Miles and Richard?

We could give Miles the Nu, she would love the funnels
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>>572612
That, my friend is the Dynamic General Guardian aka Dyzengar, piloted by Zengar Zombolt, the sword that smites evil. The machine normally DOES have weapons like dual lasers in the shoulders and rocket fists, but due to the situation of it's launch, Zengar went 'screw that, give me my old mech's sword' and just went manual with it's controls. He'd probably one of the strongest SRW OG characters. Man loves his swords to the point his FISHING rod has a sword handle.
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>>572641

Irina is a Bahamutcorp employee. Mecha named after fish = Bahamut, mecha named after horses = Bucephalus, that's the easy way to tell.

SOUL A's mecha are all named after fish because the Bahamutcorp technicians on the Cincinnatus, who were the vast majority, didn't want to work under Triple-C, a Bucephalus technician, so he let them name the first three SOUL mecha (Betta, Swordtail, Fugu/Puffer) their way and had his name officially taken off the list of designers. Then Fairchild got more involved with the project, and brought more Bucephalus technicians with her, and they absofuckinglutely refused to touch SOUL B's projects unless they stopped naming them after fish. The Bahamutcorp techs, in turn, refused to work on any mech named after a horse, so as a compromise all of the SOUL B mecha have neutral names picked by committee (S-Slayer, S-Slinger, S-Stiletto). Except that Clemmy insisted on calling the S-Stiletto by its original project name of S-Flowerhorn and nobody could convince her otherwise.
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>>572664
Clemmy was my first guess, but I don't recall her talking about any family of hers
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So I've got a question about warping and how it interacts with stealth systems, particularly the Betta's seeing as we have the ASP to deal with low level cloaking.

Is it reasonable to think that Roarke, Avi, or Sam would have made the connection that when a warp gate is open the Betta's cloaking goes on the fritz? And is it possible to put Karen, Cornelius, or even Clancy on researching that and how to possibly reproduce the effect to disrupt cloaks? I have a feeling the Betta won't be the only mech we interact with that has advanced cloaking and stealth.
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>>572695
Yes i know, my good man. Someone in this thread who knows not of REAL MEN RIDE EACH OTHER should go and play srw immediately.
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>>572698
No but your getting closer, although this could all just be a red herring
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>>572726
Looks great anon, contrasts very well with Bahamut
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>>572692
Give Miles a bigger, longer range gun than Jesus has just to fuck with him.

Give Richard an RCS to control long-range Stealthed missile drones.
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>>572723
The only other person I can think of is Lori, and that would mean you're implying she's a mole
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>>572726
I spent 35 minutes cleaning water marks before I realized that because the base image is black and white I just needed to up the contrast. I also tried splashing red or orange or yellow, but it looked hella goofy.
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>>572692
One I was thinking of is a two seater machine with a built in heavy sniper cannon. Richard handles those who get close while Miles lines the shot and fires. It'd be a heavier machine, but damned if it wouldn't be a sight to see.
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>>572735
They need better base mechs though, they're only using Master Harpies

>>572740
Boy your face is going to be red when you figure this out, keep trying though
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>>572692

Durandals.
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“No way! That's not how those work.” Simon protests, “If his sensors were really being jammed, he should be getting more than just interference.”

She giggles, “So you're the smart one, huh? I like that. Keep your chin up, rookie. With hard work and a l'il guts, you'll make a fine pilot in no time.”

“T-t-thanks.” Simon stutters a little on the reply. Between him and Caesar, it's hard to tell who handles girls more poorly.

“Save it, both of you. Do you WANT bad luck?” Asphodel snaps, “Spread out, make sure all three squads can cover each other at range. My squad, we'll take the left. On my mark, deploy your right-arm emergency missiles, we'll draw the bitch's fire. Remember, she ate three microfusion reactor explosions at point-blank range without hindering operational effectiveness, whatever those shields are they're no joke. Sergeant Nedermeyer's squad, take the right, as soon as her back is directly to you and she can't block with them as effectively, open up with your missile pods, I want you to put so much shit in the sky we don't need to deploy our smoke rockets. Sergeant Luxol's squad, hold back until after we've all fired, then go straight down the center from above, trap her between us and the ship below her with the Martians at her back. If we pressure her enough she won't be able to focus on our artillery units, and you've got a close-combat specialist according to your files, so hopefully we can pin her in place. Nedermeyer's squad, you've been issued with epoxy cannons scabbarded on your Mantas. The range is fairly short, so only use them if she breaks in your direction and gets away from Luxol's squad.. Stay in formation until we're five clicks out, then split. I know you're all sweating, so am I, but we've got this thing outnumbered nine to one, eighteen if you count those Martians, plus whatever covering fire we're getting from the cruiser's CIWS turrets. In that mech is some son of a bitch who thinks we're all a bunch of cockroaches fit to be stepped on, but we're the United Jovian Colonies Independent Defense Force, and today we're doing the stepping.” You're nine kilometers out, now, from the unmistakable bulk of a ship moving at a fraction of its usual speed and a small swarm of Scimitars buzzing around a much larger mech. You're semi-familiar with the Palomino II, it's equipped with fairly serious missile launchers and carries a heavy cannon as standard equipment. It doesn't even pretend like it enjoys melee and has no shield, but at long distances it continued Bucephalus' proud tradition of fine long-range mecha.

[Continued]
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>>572748
I'm out of guesses. nigga. I'm just gonna wait.
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>>572758

>Noriko

Oh no. shes gonna die.
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oh right, post id's... I don't need to quote myself anymore, damn this board is weird.

>>572692
for richard.
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>>572749
I'm almost certain Roland's mech is going to use that name

>>572758
AND BEST GIRL APPEARS
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>>572768
>all those missiles

I like it, what's that fine piece of metal's name?
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>>572776
That isn't Kaworu. That isn't Kaworu at all.
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>>572553
Welcome aboard Kouhai!

So, my nakama, don't let the gravity from /qst/ keep your souls down, let's burn the skies!
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>>572790
Kaworu is shit
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>>572795
I thought we were gonna get along, but then you had to say that.
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>>572785

VF-25S with ARMOURED Pack.
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>>572765

If we didn't have post IDs I'd give you an anonymous hint. On the other hand, when I think about it...people have died because of most of Roarke's women. If you count Sam assassinating Green Skulls with her electric stake drivers, Karen is the only exception, and even then you could maybe argue that her parents put themselves at more risk in battle because she was on board the Rhinehawk they were defending. You could also argue that because she rebuilt the Kaiser that a lot of deaths are her fault.
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>>572803
Best boy will forever be Kaji

>>572785
Wait Wong, does this mean you finally watched Gunbuster?
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>>572776
>>572790
>>572795
>>572803
This again?
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>>572785
vf-25s armored messiah from macross frontier.
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oops, forgot my pic.
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>>572812
He's probably going red in the face trying to figure this out. If he read more carefully he might get it

>>572816
We'll all be dead in the ground before this ever gets settled
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>>572816
Mana Kirishima
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>>572822
>We'll all be dead in the ground before this ever gets settled

Indeed. Also Kaworu is best waifu.

Now if the fucker could stay alive for more than three days that would be great...
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>>572692
This for miles btw. Actually, thinking about it didn't the Buster Gundam also have a strike kit type deal that had missile spam? They could totally have matching couples mechs! awwwww...
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>>572813
I respect your opinion, but I'll never agree with you.

>>572838
Won't happen, it's his downside, he's perpetually limited time only.
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>>572822
2 thirds of my guesses were made entirely because they had blond hair. I was mostly just passing the time in between updates.
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It's then that Simon makes an extremely thoughtless comment, “So, uh, have you guys seen those nAVIgator videos?”

“Yeah!” Sergeant Nedermeyer, however, makes it even worse. “I liked the one with Red Siren because she and Roarke are dreamy together and...oh, and the Harpy swarm! Where the Kaiser was super outnumbered but just kept crushing Harpies in its fists and...” Another Scimitar blip disappears from your sensors, “And...and oh...yeah. It was a lot like that.”

The good mood evaporates like dew off the moors. Everyone here realizes the connotations of what she just said, after all. Numbers are great, but a sufficiently powerful mech can plow through smaller mecha at a rapacious speed.

“Pumpkinseeds are a lot bigger than Harpies. So are Scimitars, for that matter.” Asphodel sharply cuts the conversation short. That doesn't dispel the thought, though, that what's coming into view on your sensors is definitely bigger than the Knuckle Kaiser. Unlike the Knights you've fought previously, this thing dances and flies with effortless grace, “And I don't want to know what those two particular loathesome human beings are doing.”

“I've seen you watching the Pumpkinseed II one! Brian, you're a liar!” Sergeant Nedermeyer protests, “Stop being a jerk just because you want to show off to SOUL!”

“Sergeant Nedermeyer, you are THREE GODDAMN STEPS away from Shetland Bay Duty when we get back to the Cicero!” Asphodel bellows back, “If I don't study Starwind and that Space Witch, how do you expect me to beat them!?”

“T-that's a good point.” Simon notes, and you hear Garret groan over the comms in frustration.

Still, Garret is a politician's son, and quickly changes the topic, "It's more like the Tarrasque fight. Big, stupid, arrogant target against smaller, smarter operators. Hey, Lieutenant, why don't we put some music on? It'll be good for morale."

You hear Asphodel growl and bonk his helmet against his monitor, but he replies in the affirmative, "Not a bad suggestion, Sergeant. Say, Corporal, to make up for the awkwardness earlier, why don't you pick something? Unless there's a unanimous vote against it, I'm really fine with listening to anything that ISN'T nAVIgator-related."

>[Choose your fight music]
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>>572880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M
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Speaking of Gunbuster any chance we can get the chainsaw feet and Buster Collider for the Kaiser?

>>572880
Lets see what fits for this one, since Amos likes Country
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA
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>>572880
Guy sounds like he's having a vitamin deficiency. Maybe he should have a Banana?
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>mfw in /qst/ we are all tripfags '-'
So, Thunder, any last minute crazy plan?
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>>572905
Too late for the Inzuma kick plan, we could epoxy it to the ground and then crash the ship into it
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>>572880
We already know a little of Amos' taste in music. CCR is bluesy rock. Not sure it's flight music but I'm thinking Aerosmith.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EvGn22Mplg
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>>572880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_dcpEwzQH8
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>>572916
Does it make your blood heat up? If yes then its fight music
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>>572546
What thread?
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>>572935
>>>/tg/49349154
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>>572534
Eye of Tiger, RETSU GORU!
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>>572933
Oh I misread, thought it was FLIGHT not FIGHT.
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Someday we must have a segment from Oda's POV.

Just so we can have weeaboo fight music.
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>>572880

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C19C6H9_Ug
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>>572984
Yeah, i was thinking about this someday ago...
What about a side story from the perspective of an Storm Dragon's Ace? It could be a perfect opportunity to see how is life from the Pirate Weaboo Side of Things...XD
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>>572984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3jCq9i_PRY I am saving this song for when something ridiculous plan succeeds with either Oda or Ceaser.
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>>573003
>Related
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>>572984
There are so many good choices we could pull out for an Oda fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyGFM5CGnoo&list=PLjmJ0uCpE8a--AWl38sQscB-JYz7tvg20&index=8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEEPosF-tNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocX4vWBIdvg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAqLie4EgUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSdkMrMLiR8&list=PLjmJ0uCpE8a--AWl38sQscB-JYz7tvg20&index=19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GsQSJzmd1A&list=PLjmJ0uCpE8a--AWl38sQscB-JYz7tvg20&index=39
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>>572416
I like it. Interesting but simple design I could see the stone soldiers or minor aces using, understandable backstory. Also
>Rumors that Countess Le Kennedy demanded several for her elite retainers as an apology for undisclosed acts of "peasantry" cannot be confirmed, but no reports of Altgraf's in her colors have been sighted.
Kek. I approve. Can we make this canon?
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>>572880
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ-QLl5qjLg
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>>572944
Christ all the salt in that thread, Honestly if they want actual discussion on this they will need to throw ids on in the thread its in, make it more of a pain to false a majority
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You grin behind your helmet, "How about some classic Red Siren? I've got 'My Boyfriend is a Pirate' right here..."

"OVERRULED!" Asphodel bellows immediately. You hear sighs over the comms from the soldiers who have known him long enough to realize that the idea of voting was a sham from the beginning, "Overruled and ALSO contraband!"

You're stunned, realizing that you might have actually, finally met someone who doesn't pirate music. Still, S-Pop isn't really your genre, it's too girly for your tastes, "It was a joke, Blue Knight is a man's mech and plays a man's tunes. We've got Aerosmith."

"But I like 'My Boyfriend is a-'" Sergeant Nedermeyer protests, but unfortunately Lieutenant Asphodel is louder.

"APPROVED! Make it so, Corporal." He raises his voice over hers, drowning her out, and you hurriedly put on the Aerosmith. Train Kept a Rollin' should come on right at about the time you're supposed to contact the enemy.

Who has just come into your visual range. She's standing on top of the Cassim's Folly, nearly directly between the wings and far, far too close to where she could do some damage to its fusion cores for your comfort. Rather than flying, she's strolling casually around on her rather dainty feet, which in daylight remind you of rather whimsical high-heeled boots.

So you magnify the shot, and see her wiping what's clearly the remains of a Scimitar's cockpit from one of the large, curved, winglike shields that extend down over her shoulders. The left-side shield is a mess, blackened and pitted from dozens of scars, and it seems to twitch a little in motion while the right-side turns moves smoothly to balance out every change in the mech's posture. You can see what look like detached cables hanging from behind where the end of the damaged shield has been ripped off, but despite all of that the rest of the white and gold mech is pristine and spotless. Its hands are empty, and its arms are actually crossed over its chest. One of the surviving Scimitars tries to ram it, and it casually leans out of the way, the smaller jet-form mech barely avoiding tearing its belly open on the hull of the ship as it skims past. The Paladin's head turns like an owl's as it moves, remaining fixed on your formation. You've heard rumors of advanced command mecha, ones generally given to officers significantly above your paygrade, having programs that can analyze enemy mecha for weaknesses, and you wonder with an unpleasant twist in your stomach whether the Paladin has that ability.

"On second thought...my squad, we'll fire both missiles. Let's drown this bitch in plasma and munitions. Luxol squad, you open up with yours too." The Lieutenant notes, his voice suddenly sounding a little parched.

Before you can voice optimism supporting the thought that the Martians will surely forgive the hole you might melt in their hull, you receive a vidcomm request. From something called the Berenger.

[Continued]
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By the way, don't /qst/ threads take forever to die off, or something? Because this would make those two-days-in-a-row threads much easier.
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>>572984

Imagine how surreal Oda's stage in the next Bluegill Joe game will be.
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>>573066

Really fucking long.

German hollow quest ended monday and the thread is still accessible in the Catalog.

Hell some people were still posting on it today actually.
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>>573066
They do for now.
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>>573066
Yeah, I think the Maverick Hunter Quest from saturday and sunday is still alive.
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>>573066
There's at least one quest from the 5th still up.
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>>573058
Wait, wasn't the Berenger the punchy mech Miss Kennedy talked about?
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Also, continued in half an hour so I can eat dinner.
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>>573083
>>573084
>>573087
>>573093

Yes, that makes things convenient, because now we don't run the risk of losing a thread with these long battles.
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>>573094

Belegor's Paladin mech is the Samson, that's probably who you're thinking of. Sir Gavin pilots the Roland, and Duke Eustace de Rothschild-Beauchamps pilots the Oliver. Loriette's is, of course, the Anseis.
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Alright so we have thirty minutes to plan out some strategy to save the ship from the Paladin. Any bright ideas?
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>>573116
Which one is the one that one-ups Jesus like a motherfucker and make shim cry saltier bitch-tears than waifuwars do?
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>>573119
pray to the dice gods?
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>>573119
Anyone have a pack of explosive cores?
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>>573119
What I said before. The Mantas are basically meat shields for our units, use smoke and flares to blind her, and worse case, self destruct and bail. I don't think it will be that easy though. Got a feeling she is playing bait.
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>>573119
It seems to be melee based so try to keep our distance , which we should do anyway as we have that snazzy rifle Irina made us. And Samson is missing it's shield at the moment so that's even better.

I'm a little nervous about that interference we were getting though, that's an unknown variable, which is bad enough with normal mechs let alone with the Paladins.
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>>573135
That thing took three fusion reactor explosions and was fine to keep fighting. We need something that can punch through her shields which have to be at least 12k

>>573141
I have a feeling she'll be able to kill our Mantas pretty easily
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>>573080

Stage set in a mech sized japanese mansion.

With Enka music and mechs wearing japanese stagehand costumes running about handling explosions and clearing pieces of destroyed enemy mechs.
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>>573147
>That thing took three fusion reactor explosions and was fine to keep fighting. We need something that can punch through her shields which have to be at least 12k
Four Fusion reactors?
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>>573147
One manta ate a few sniper rounds and they do 9 kills. To move up and hit it once will eat a round. Thats 1 round we can fire ordinance at.
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>>573157
When we scuttled our reactors when she ambushed us in the forest
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let's see if it can survive a ship sized battering ram.
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>>573171
We don't know what shes packing, she could have hand lasers like a Zgock
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>>573058
Any chance of an Oda/Storm Dragon's Ace Side Quest?

I would prefer the second because i think that Oda's carisma works better with him being an NPC... And because i really want to know more about his tripulation, but either option would be great ^^.
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>>573173
Yes, but each blast was a different attack. So it was 3 10 k blasts. Her shields are showing signs of damage and wear so the armor rating is likely Beta. In the end, that means we simply need to keep pooring fire on it and it will eventually fly off. Problem is, our main ship's thrusters are damaged to a quarter of their speed. Thats going to hurt the return.. especially if the base is under attack.
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>>573147
Our heavy missiles do 12k, I think all Pumpkinseeds have them but I'm not sure. That gives us 12 shots altogether that can pop the shield. Though we have no clue about this things evasive capabilities, she seems to be willing to tank hits from what it seems so far.
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>>573196
If my math is right it should take 4 shots to destroy the shield if it is 12k then we have the armor and the servos themselves
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>>573206
shields degrade by 1 each hit even if it goes through armor. If the hits are normally below 4 though, then thats probably why the machine has no dents on it's actual armor. Unless it has Gamma armor, which is going to make things slightly harder.
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perhaps we should try something novel first.

Perhaps we should open comms to the pilot and try to talk?
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>>573215
Yes and a 12k would work like, and it seems to be five not 4 missiles

12k-12k= 11k due to abation
11k-12k= 10k
10k-12k=8k
8k-12k= 4k
4k-12k=0k
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>>573226
Can we shoot them all in the same turn? Does it work the way you described?I'm still a noob in this sytem...
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>>573226
..except thats not how it works at all? Standard armor and shields lose 1 SP a hit period. No more, no less. This has been the case for many of our fights, even against big foes likee Rashad and his small active shield.
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>>572515
Say, how many mech designs are there floating around for the contest anyway?
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>>573147

Asphodel is on the same page as you in that regard, note that the only actual combat orders he gave were for you to open combat by dropping both of your +2 WA, 12K missiles on her, while his squad does the same. The Palomino IIs, for reference, carries three fivepacks of 6K, WA+1 Missiles, and have a 9K heavy cannon as their standard firearm. They're a bit of an oddity in this day and age for having no beam weaponry at all.
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Hey, sup Mr.Wong, Thunder, & Brazilian anon. Just woke up, and holy shit, that's a lot things I missed.

Also, Gaunt's sister, Me thinks it's Rosita
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>>573236

A lot, and I'm sure I'm missing some of the ones that were submitted.
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>>573224
I'd normally agree with trying that, but we've encountered this Paladin before and this is a full on combat situation where we are trying to rescue a ship and supplies. I don't see us talking our way out of it and if we were able to it'd likely end with us handing Garrett over and possibly the ace pilot we have prisoner.
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>>573247
Not the wife of the shamed designer?
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>>573256
He said it was against Roarke and if she was the wife's sister the problem would be with Rosita. Plus he said her sister made the mistake and it wasn't the wife's fault
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You hit accept. There's no way your curiosity would have ever forgiven you otherwise. The spherical monitor surrounding you flashes, and then an image forms, showing you the inside of a cockpit. The woman inside is clearly not dressed for space combat. Her clothes would have been antique on ancient Terra by the time the world was bathed in radiation. A smart, narrow tricorn hat with a small feather sits atop hair the color of snow. Her skin is equally devoid of pigmentation, and her eyes are an extremely pale grey. Although she's shockingly pretty, it's impossible to pin down her age. At rest, she looks a decade older than you, but when she smiles you could swear she was sixteen. She dresses almost like a Victorian-era man would, but with a more feminine cut and color to it. You can see the basket hilt of an ornate sword at her waist. She's humming to herself, but doesn't speak until you hear eight other little chiming sounds, likely alerts that your squadmates have accepted her request. Then she lowers her head in a short bow.

“Welcome, warriors. I do thank you kindly for accepting my invitation hence.” Her mech, presumably the Berenger, splays the spindly, golden fingers of one hand across the alabaster armor of its chest and moves one leg behind the other, dipping its head almost to the ground in an incredibly overwrought but elegantly performed bow of its own, “I pray, will you hand over the one I seek without further violence? If all lives are equal on Jove, then surely it is a fair exchange, for I can cease swatting these Saracen mosquitoes and depart. I shall even promise not to hurt the young prince, if it is required. Once he has met with the Lady, I shall personally see him returned to you, without an ounce of violence permitted to befall him.”

Everyone else seems momentarily stunned, and you're all still three kilometers out from her, too far to even use your emergency missiles with accuracy.

>[What say?]
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>>573256
[s]She committed suicide the day of the Archen's debut, right?[/s]
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>>573265
"See. The problem with that is that the whole "brainwashing" thing Green Men tend to do means that even if we were insane enough to let you have him, you would harm him, and nobody would believe anything he said. Probably shoot him to prevent contamination actually. Your mission is doomed from the start, so either withdraw, or get shot down."
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>>573266

She stabbed out Rosita's eye with her hairpin in front of a dinner party of wealthy Jovians, then threw herself off the balcony.
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>>573247
Hey man, so, how are you?XD
Thats okay, i got here late too by the same reason.
Ready to protect best boy's smile?
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>>573265
>Yeah, and be brainwashed into becoming a propaganda mouthpiece for the Green Man...Woman. No thanks, seen the movie, hated the T-shirt.
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>>573265

"Why do you even want to bring him to your lady."

Got to figure out how much his life is worth. Also stalls a little bit of time.

Get the others to open comms with the survivors of the squadron and the supply ship. See what they can tell us of what the mech did in combat.

Also start scanning the shit out of the mech while we stall.
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Rolled 6 + 8 (1d10 + 8)

>>573265
>By that point your lady will have already brainwashed him with those spores. Fuck that and fuck you
Rolling to intimidate
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>>573274
Backing this seems like something they have never had explained to them
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>>573265

Anyone know the most polite way to say 'fuck you I'm not handing my friend over to a fucking greenman?'
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>>573277
Always.
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>>573275
but why
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>>573287
Husband was the lead designer of the Archen and was sleeping with Rosita
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>>573287
for sleeping with her husband? fiancee?
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>>573287

Because Rosita was younger, prettier, and having an impassioned love affair with her husband.
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>>573265
>Lady Maria
I- I can't-
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>>573265
Wait, if she wanted to speak, why not just use a video relay system and make her intentions clear? She should know that much if she has the tech and there is absolutely no reason for her to not do so if her message is as good as you say it is. Bringing someone directly to her, with our most basic knowledge causes alarms to blare in our head.
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>>573265
answers the same as it was last time, lady.
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>>573292

Back then, incidentally, it was called the Eilonwy and was even more magical girlish. Red Siren changed some of the aesthetic features when she was turning the laser lightshow projectors into an actual laser cannon and made it look tougher.
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Look on the bright side anon, at least we don't have to worry about ever fighting Geist, that would be terrifying
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>>573265
"If your lady wants a chat tell her to get on space skype, till then no dice chica. Tell you what though, let us go, let the ship through and we'll release your pilot, sound like a good deal to you?"
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>>573274
This, and
"So... By making that clear, do you still insist on trying it? If you are so interested in diplomatic resolutions, why not trying it by the habitual channels? Doing it by force will only make more people to suffer... Is this what your lady really wants? You do ideed make it seems so."
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>>573346
>>573265
Sorry forgot to link to you.
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Rolled 4, 8 = 12 (2d10)

You clear your throat, "See, the problem with that is the whole...'brainwashing spores' thing the Green Men do. So even if we were insane enough to let you have him, which I can say with authority we are not because I'll shoot the thrusters out from under anyone who says otherwise, you would harm him, and none of us would believe anything he said about meeting your Lady. The Martians would probably shoot him on the spot to prevent contamination. Your mission was doomed from the beginning, so withdraw or get shot down."

The pale woman's face is abruptly no longer smiling. It doesn't look angry, or sad, or anything else, just calm and puzzling, "I am sorry, boy. I understand your concerns and would fain upset your trust as comrades, but I was not making a request. I am Duchess Maria Carnegie, Paladin and rider of the Berenger, and I am here to carry out my duty in the service of the one goddess whose miracles I have ever witnessed in my long, long lifetime. I shall not be denied." The Berenger's back is to the Martians, and you see a squad of them circling around and swooping into position behind her. There must be something about her armor that's preventing them from employing their small but quad-linked cannons, if they think ramming is the only way they can hurt her.

"Pardon me. I have rude company." The Berenger's head turns, owl-like, and it lifts its shields. For a moment, the rain comes to a halt, and in the grey light you see a complex mass of grooved metal beneath, shifting and moving...and then, abruptly, the sky is full of gleaming golden filaments.

[Continued after the results of these rolls, +17 to all]
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Rolled 10, 10, 2, 4, 8, 5 = 39 (6d10)

+12 to all
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>>573361
Well SOMEONE is proving that they will not job.
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>>573371
Not sure if that last roll was for the martians or not
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>>573373
For the Berenger. Holy shit +17
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>>573361
If this doesn't develop into a multi-stage boss fight which begins with the words "Only an honest death will cure you now", I will be severely disappointed.
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>>573375
Yeah, moment we use the missiles, we'll need to put in 2 luck in each one and hope someone manages to get the first hit in.
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Alright Wong whats the strongest bombardment/bomb we can call down on our location? The base has to have a nuke or something extremely heavy
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>>573363
>mfw Scimittar pilot just became an Ace.
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>>573361

Tentacles.

Of fucking course she would have fucking tentacles.

Well to quote Piccolo, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvS6zMThiZU
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>>573361
>>573346
When she continue to insist on it:
>Well...It's useless to discuss with fanatics... ENOUGH TALK, HAVE AT YOU!
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Christ, Maria of the Astral clock tower, time for lingering hit boxes, blood swords and flaming blood swords.
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>>573414
And like a fool we forgot to stock up on blood vials.
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>>573423
Makes me wonder if Ludwig is one of the paladins too, with a fuckhuge laser sword.
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>>573430
Well the Moonlight was originally a Armored Core weapon(though it was part of a much older game from the same developers)m so seeing a mech use it would make sense.
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>>573442
Iirc the mlgs has been in almost all of their games so yeah. Also, wanna bet this Maria has a sister?
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Rolled 6 + 6 (1d10 + 6)

The Martians aren't rookies. They're experienced pilots, not elites, but competent. As the first waves of spears scythe through the air, two of the pilots bank and weave between the gleaming filaments. The third, though, is just a fraction too slow. What reminds you uncomfortably of the Magnetic Grappling Harpoon on Simon's Pumpkinseed except with a bladed tip instead of a grasper pierces directly through his cockpit at an angle, the point stained red. A second crosses through it at another angle, then a third and a fourth, and the drones attached to their razorwired nanofiber cables rip the Scimitar apart the way a waxed cord cuts through soft cheese. As they weave closer, the two remaining Scimitars put on an impressive display, but there are simply too many strands, and their cockpits are ripped to shreds before they make it within one hundred meters of the Paladin.

"I am, of all the Paladins, the oldest. Unlike my brethren, I had been offworld before the War even began. I remember the Confederation." The Berenger, unhurried, shakes its head. The filaments tense and stand out behind her, then withdraw beneath her shields, "You innocent children should not have come here, there are secrets buried on Qu'lir, a legacy of blood and curses that should have remained buried forever. The Lady is the only one with the ability to heal a world of slaves bred to feed the appetites of a species gluttonous on success, so do not dare dirty my ears with base slanders of her again. Stay in your system, custodians to a people that have achieved the natural limit of your species, the Lady is kind and will allow you to remain there, free from retribution for the atrocities of Mars. I pity you, but that shall not stay my hand from retrieving the specimen I have been entrusted with retrieving by the only being fit to rule an enlightened galaxy. I ask again, will you give me Garret Luxol?"

"Anyone know the most polite way to say 'fuck you I'm not handing my friend over to a fucking Green Man'?" You inquire loudly.

She sighs, "Headstrong boy." She smiles, and shakes her head a little, "Superb. Oh, I know very well, how the secrets of strength beckon so sweetly. How even when you are terrified, you always feel that desire to test yourself, to see how strong you really are, to fight the most powerful enemy you can find. That naked flame of ambition, so warm and bright. In another lifetime, I would be proud to call you my third pupil, and see you raised as they were to Paladinhood yourself someday. Were it otherwise, one of my nymphs would not have surrendered to you." She's applauding you, and so is her mech, it's a disconcerting sight. The Berenger stalks slowly forward, picking its way over crushed CIWS turrets and shattered Scimitars. "Only an honest death will cure you now." Her smile is as warm as human blood, "Liberate you, from your wild curiosity."

She turns off vidcomm.

[Initiative, 1d10+7]
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Rolled 9 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>573464
Lets roll
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Rolled 7 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>573464

ITS GO TIME
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Rolled 7 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>573464
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>>573464
>"Only an honest death will cure you now." Her smile is as warm as human blood, "Liberate you, from your wild curiosity."

Also, Wong, you absolute madman.
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Rolled 6 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>573464
The feces has hit the proverbial air flow circulator.
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>>573467

Thunderbird is bringing the Thunder again I see.
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Rolled 6 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>573464
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>>573464
>"Only an honest death will cure you now." Her smile is as warm as human blood, "Liberate you, from your wild curiosity."
I need a moment.
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Rolled 3 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>573464
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Rolled 8 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>573464
Fear not, we have the Thunder.
>>573467
RETSUUUU GOOOORU!
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Rolled 3, 7 = 10 (2d10)

Give me 1d10+15s. I'll take the first two. It's +15 because Heavy Missiles are +2 WA.
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Rolled 1 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>573503
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Rolled 9 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>573503
I'll add a plus two to make it hit.
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Rolled 6 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>573503

DAKKA.

DIE YOU FUCKING WHORE
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Rolled 10 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

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Rolled 6 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>573503
oh god, post ids! im accountable!
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Rolled 7 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>573503
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Rolled 2 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>573503
BANZAII
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Rolled 6 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>573503
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>>573505
well shit.
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>>573505

why
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Rolled 5 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>573509
Dammit I didn't reload the page to see that it changed to +15
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Rolled 4 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>573507
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Someone give me a 1d10 for location.
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Rolled 1 + 15 (1d10 + 15)

>>573503
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Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>573527
Yo!
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Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>573527
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Rolled 8 (1d10)

>>573527
Rollan

>>573517
>>573518
Just a regular miss, since 1s aren't crit fails in this system.
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Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>573527
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>>573505
>>573507
These two are faster than lightning!
>>573513
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>573527
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>>573529
Did we just smack her mech in the noggin?
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>>573529
Let's pray that this is a good number.
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>>573529

BOOM BABY!

Bulls-fucking-eye!
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>>573529
Nice.

Also, >>573511 fk that noise. We're mecha space pirates
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>>573529
>Roll on Special chart

Okay, I'll use the next roll and... >>573530

You've shot your second Avalonian's sensors out.
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>>573542
I DENY MY FATE OF BEING A RED SHIRT!
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>>573542
Godsent. We really needed that.
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>>573542
Amos the Headhunter
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>>573542
So, how many of the +17 did we take out?
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>>573550
2, but you got to realize something anon; I used luck to boost that roll. It's over 5.
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>>573542
WILL NOT JOB
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I need a minute I can't stop laughing.
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>>573559
Either things just got a whole lot easier, or a whole lot harder
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>>573559
What did we do. Did we one-shot her mech
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>>573562
I'm somewhat out of practice here, but fairly certain that we could chosen to have rolled on Cinematic Hits for that crit. A 10 means that her powerplant shuts down.
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>>573568
Oh god that would have been hilarious
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>>573562
>>573564
She made this whole speech about being this major badass, that we are young and foolish and need to do, then went 'NO, YOU!' to her. 1 missile lazily flying on it's path, the other hitting her square in the face and taking away here advantage. Now she's facing off against a whole lot more who are going to open fire on her.

She done fucked up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE0OzjCpTHo
this whole quest.
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>>573573
If thats the case then almost every single mech we have every gone against has jobbed, and even the one that didn't still got her ass kicked without hurting us too bad
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>>573573
Have an accurate image of the events as they transpire.
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>>573575
Hey, this whole quest knows what genre we're in.
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Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>573553

So you did, which means that 10 was rolled on the special table.
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>>573578
Does that mean if her reactor did shut down we should keep shooting and not attempt to capture.
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>>573583
Can we not roll on Cinematic?

I don't want her powerplant to blow up ;_;
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>>573588
That sounds like Anti-Sol talk their anon, better watch that Amos doesn't come for you
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>>573588
Only good green mans a dead one.
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>>573588

She survived it either way, but by rights the person who rolled that crit gets to decide.
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>>573588
I do we just watched her coldy kill 2 martians, she dies
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>>573594
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>>573583
So, eyes took a hit due to location and now something else takes half damage in ANOTHER location? This is not her day.
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>>573602
Hey, thats a half truth
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>>573547

You, sir, both rolled the crit and rolled its location. What say you?
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>>573606
So you're a lala homo man since you dont touch corpses?
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>>573605

No. Amos straight missed her with one (after she spent her active shield blocking Asphodel's first missile...and he's the only one who beat your initiative when I rolled offscreen and he whiffed his other missile) and then hit her powerplant with the second.
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>>573605
Thats what happens when you fight Amos "If you like green he gets mean" Wedge

>>573610
Who said I don't touch corpses
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>>573605
No, location doesn't necessarily matter because it's a crit, not a hit.

You can choose to have that 10 on any of these three tables, with the corresponding effects.
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>>573615
Cinematic is so much better in this one, we get a Paladin and her mech. This is a huge win for Sol
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>>573615

And because it's a crit presumably you're rolling on the special or cinematic tables.
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>>573618

If she doesn't pull a self destruct...
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>>573614
that game was weird to play. hell the entire series was weird.
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>>573618
Why do you think I was suggesting Cinematic instead of Special? Aside from flustering the waifu by randomly shutting down her entire mech
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Wait...I'm Lost, whats going on anymore? Did we agree on Cinematic rules? Or did it always worked like that?
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>>573621
And if shes dead we get a dead Paladin, its win win. And shouldn't she not be able to since her powerplant is fucked
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>>573615
shit we can blow her powerplant in one go?
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>>573607
Hmmm.. one hand she is a filthy greenman sympathizer. Other hand, she is Maria. I'd say disable her so we get the tech, the pilot, and the moral victory.
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>>573629
When roarke hears of this, theres no chance the sol forces wont crow about this, we need to send a personal invitation to amos to take part in the Space Jam.
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>>573633
and the booty.
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>>573621
Even if her honor would allow it, she logically can't blow her powerplant if her powerplant has been shut down.

>>573628
Basically, since we rolled a crit, we can choose which one of those three tables I posted we roll on (though it should probably have been done before rolling).
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>>573633
Just think what this will do for Amos's career and Ritsuko's designs
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>>573636
Well actually a crit on the normal roll sends you to the special hit location, and an 8 or 9 sends you to the cinematic location
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>>573637
We should glowingly mention our amazing new rifle she made, in addition to the greatness of the Pumpkinseed II
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>>573634
I completely back this. Roarke had a hard time with a Paladin and it was the toughest fight he's encountered since getting the Knuckle Kaiser. Amos just took one out without breaking a sweat and in a Pumpkinseed no less.
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>>573637

Which is good.

On the other hand once Fairchild hears of this those girls are as good as skinned and hanged on her wall for her to laugh and/or masturbate over.
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>>573644
Ya but Amos wouldn't know anything about that and he might not care to a major extent
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>>573621

She can't do that if her mech is disabled.
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>>573642
Never mind that the telemetry clearly shows that it was caused by a missile salvo rather than the rifle itself?

>>573641
A normal hit on location 10 sends you to the special hit chart, and so on. But the text for crits states that the attacker may choose which of the three charts to roll on.
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>>573643
Thing is when you actually look at what the outcome was it wasn't that close of a fight. Roarke made it out with all of his servos still attached even if one of his arms was fucked. It was a tense fight but it wasn't as close as it seemed, kind of like when we fought Oda

>>573650
I see what your saying now
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>>573644

On the other hand, Fairchild is in the Solar System.
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>>573633
dont forget the hat. We need to claim her hat as spoils of war.
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>>573644
Fuck her, shes got a weird starry act like shes not actually involved in her own actions. Like the first mates a bitch but when she kills people she recognizes it. Shes like "Yeah i shot him, fuck him" not this "oh you have to die there is no choice, noted im really not trying that hard but still" I mean fuckin JESUS pulled off the pacifist warmonger and hes not a centuries old super ace insomuch as a prodigy who is aware no one likes him and is constantly trying to be the kind of hero you see in movies so people will stop hating him.


She and most of these cultists are bitches who don't seem to truly care the way even the worst of sol do.
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>>573659
Pretty much, and from the sounds of it, our bro hates her guts. Yes we got a pally, but the ones who got her was one of the factions she hoped was dead and gone. She now has 0 paladins under her name, even if SOUL C could be consider such. Just need to say we side with Stern annnd..
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>>573659
And she will claim credit like the motherfucker she is
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>>573650
yeah but the telemetry still shows 6 pumpkinseed II's downing a paladin in under 10 seconds. Thats still a win for Irina's design.
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>>573659
If, if is good.
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>>573655
Wasn't saying it ended up being close just that it posed such a challenge to Roarke and his abilities. I can't remember if the Berenger and it's pilot were among the top 4 or 5 Paladins that Lori listed off as being the best, but she mentioned the rankings of the remaining ones were in constant contention. Lori being one of the lower ones.

I feel Roarke would have a good amount of respect for a pilot who just did what Amos did to an enemy of roughly equal skill to Lori, and he hasn't seemed to care if people were part of the UJCIDF. Perhaps the invitation to Space Jam is a bit much to ask, but there should definitely be some recognition. I can easily see one of the kids putting it on Space YouTube seeing as they were just discussing nAVIgator and his videos.
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>>573677
And a win for Roarke, people will start to think the Paladin won the battle when it was really an incredibly lucky shot and they'll ramp up production and send more people to their death against Paladins
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You hit play on the music you'd paused. The wild beats of Aerosmith fill the cabin, as you reach for the joystick that governs your missiles.

'Well, on a train, I met a dame
She rather handsome we kinda looked the same
She was pretty, from New York City
I'm walkin' down that old fair land,
I'm in heat, I'm in love,
But I just couldn't tell her so.' Croons the rough yet musical voice of a bygone, glorious era.

“Now!” Asphodel barks, and you see two puffs of white smoke as his missiles streak through the air. The Berenger flicks one aside with its shield, but rocks backward a step as the curved surface is gouged and cratered by an explosive impact, the second missile whizzing past too high. You mark your target, and fire. The missile launched from your head compartment, too, is high, and the Paladin contemptuously sways to let it pass by her shoulder.

“See? Much too headstr-” And then her voice cuts out in a wash of static. As she'd moved, her shields had spread wide for just a moment, and although the Berenger's body is sideways to you and presents a slimmer profile you hit it between where the pelvis and hips would be on a human being. Your missile scrapes along the small of the Berenger's back, metal buckling and tearing away, cables snapping and sparking. The missile explodes just beyond the Berenger, and the much larger mech stumbles, twists, and collapses, falling to its hands and knees as your friends' ordnance flies above it, painting the rainy sky with flashes of light. It tries to rise, and you can see the light in the enemy mech's eyes flickering, before its power fails completely and it falls limp onto the hull of the Cicero.

You hear the sudden, indrawn breath from everyone looking, and loudest of all from you. Except, of course, for Aerosmith, those unflappable demigods.

'I said, train kept a-rollin' all night long
Train kept a-rollin' all night long
Train kept a rollin' all night long
Train kept a rollin' all night long
With a heave! And a ho!
But I just couldn't tell her so, no, no no.'

“Hold...hold fire!” The Lieutenant commands, his voice suffused with shock, “Don't waste ammo, but light her up if she moves.” Every gun in the unit focuses on the white mech with its gold frame laid bare along its spine.

"I think that's how you tell her politely, Amos. I think that's exactly how you tell her." Simon says.

[Continued]
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>>573668

That's an interesting take on Keith Young.
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>>573722
And with that we further derail everything Wong just planned. Too bad we didn't see Noriko do something cool
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>>573689
Yeah, the Berenger was never one of the known ones so she's in the lower brackets despite being a teacher. Four is going to be in for SUCH a surprise!

>>573722
Welp, with all those intimidate rolls and the one hit KO, I think the lieutenant has learned to respect us.

>>573731
I regret absolutely nothing.
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>>573722

Actually, no, not [Continued]. You just oneshotted a fucking Paladin whose entire frame is three sizes larger than your mech's. Now is the time to say something that shows up on the ASP footage for this fight and gets played a million times on JNN.
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>>573737
He respected us the moment we volunteered for the suicide mission.

Now we're going to be best buds and get absolutely drunk together because everyones coming home.
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>>573737
The fact that we volunteered for a suicide mission helped a lot

>>573741
>Paladin, more like Paladont.
Time for dad joke Amos
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>>573741
"Damn straight Biggs, Damn straight."
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>>573741
"That was a million to one shot. If your goddess is as mighty as you say, she's not on your side."
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Rolled 7 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>573741
Well damn son
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>>573741
"God Bless Jovian Engineering."
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>>573722
looks like the old girl threw her back out. better call an ambulance.
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>>573741

"Now thats a paddlin' "
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>>573737

Never regret anything. It's an ironclad rule for every GM that no matter how many cutscenes or power ups or multiple stages in a boss fight you have planned or how you pre-bought energy drinks expecting a two-part thread because you expected the battle to drag on, the dice are God and the GM MUST expect things like this to happen.
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>>573746
This. Please, all of this.
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>>573755
Can we get a quick rundown of what was supposed to happen?
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>>573755
So tell us. How EXACTLY did you originally plan for this to go?
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>>573752

OH MY GOD YES.

This, so much this.
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>>573752
Do we high five Garrett after that?
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>>573752
This is great.

Also we should epoxy her cockpit before she tries to get loose. And when we return, we need to parade the downed paladin over the town and the ship so everyone knows a paladin just got shot down.
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Fuck, lori's auction value just drastically decreased.
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>>573741
"Well that was fun. Anyone up for burgers?"
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>Everyone on the team wants to be "The guy who said that cool thing in the end".
DAD'S JOKES INTENSIFIES
>>573746
>>573747
>>573748
>>573750
>>573751
>>573752
>>573753
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>>573759
>>573762

She'd avoid a few attacks, tear into whoever entered her 400m range (which includes Asphodel's squad after they exhaust their rocket launchers too) with Shock melee attacks, realize that the Pumpkinseed IIs aren't just more ornate Pumpkinseeds, and get serious. At that point she would draw her melee armaments and start actively flying around trying to deal with the most troublesome units. If she took actual damage, something special would happen and at some point she would throw smoke grenades and flee expecting that you'd stay to escort your supplies to Innsmouth.
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>>573770
Might as well keep her then.
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>>573773

Of course, Million to one shot man,

Got to milk this for all it's worth.

Dear god this is probably going to become Amos' catch phrase or something.

It sure as hell is going to become a meme.
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>>573780

Code named: Pilot 76
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>>573773
I didn't know he was looking for one-liners, man. this>>573752 just came out
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>>573783
Hanzo's better.
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>>573780
He's going to get Zimmerman levels of memes on space 4chan
>Amos "Blight to every Knight" Wedge
>Amos "Put the Paladin in the dust bin" Wedge
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>>573780
GYchan is going to have a field day with this.
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>>573783
Maybe they'll call him M.D. Amos
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>>573777
Being stationed in a place called Innsmouth gives me more anxiety than anything else in this quest. I have a feeling the inspiration for the name is gonna be more than the few lines we got about Avalonians and everything they have being somewhat fantasy inspired. What with the mentions of Ogier and Tolkein.

Shit, the planet we are on is Qu'lir and I'm thinking it sounds similar to color, there's cat people. Wong, is this entire planet a Lovecraft reference?
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>>573787
> Amos "Paddlin' every Paladin" Wedge
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>>573788
The memes
>>573795
Fight Space Cthulu? I'm game
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>>573798
>Amos "Burgers and Fries, Greenmen dies" Wedge
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>>573801
The memes must flow*
Why did it cut that out?
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>>573795
>You innocent children should not have come here, there are secrets buried on Qu'lir, a legacy of blood and curses that should have remained buried forever.
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>>573806
>Roarke gets to fight space terrors
Stop I can only get so erect
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>>573809
You mean Amos, Roarke is very explictitly interested in the belt's needs and the belts alone.
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>>573795
Yeah... It is just a matter of time before we meet the perfect shoggoth secret waifu.
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>>573795
In bloodborne Maria guards the entrance to an Innsmouth like place where the church found the corpse of an old one, the player then fights the semi still born child of said old one at the end of the sequence, SAID Old One Was The BASIS Of The CHURCHES ARCANE RESEARCH. I'm betting the equivalent here is jovial science playing with green man bio weaponry. Also wtf phone wy''d you capitalize that.
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>>573811
But if their space horrors their gonna eventually make their way into our playground
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"Damn straight, Biggs. Looks like the old girl threw her back out, better call an ambulance." It's the first thing that comes to mind. You say it before you even realize Garret's ASP is recording this.

You hold up your Pumpkinseed's hand, the armor panel that lifted to fire the missile still up, and you give your bro's mech a high-five. Metal clangs in a brotherly fashion from the resounding impact of your palms.

But no, you're not done, "Paladin, more like Paladon't."

You hear a groan from Sergeant Nedermeyer and the girls in her squad. Asphodel, on the other hand, bursts out laughing, "Apollo's fucking bolt! Holy shit, Wedge!"

"Vulcan bless Jovian engineering and the Pumpkinseed II. Well, that was fun, anyone up for burgers?" You ask hopefully, all of the stress that just evaporated out of your muscles has left you hungry for bacon, cheese, and grilled beef patty.

[Continued]
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>>573817
alright lets secure that bitch.
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>>573801
With the way most things are jobbing I'm more ok with it than I thought I would be.

>>573814
How the hell did I blank on the fact that Bloodborne was pulled into this with the Paladin... Sometimes I'm an idiot, thanks for pointing that one out.

Besides the now obvious Bloodborne, the three possible stories I think could be referenced are The Shadow of Innsmouth, The Colour Out of Space, and The Cats of Ulthar (and their various appearances in other stories).
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>tfw everyone acts like Amos did that on purpose
>when in reality he was on the verge of pants-shitting-inducing fight for survival

I can only imagine the standards he will have to live up to now.
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>>573824
It's Shadow Over Innsmouth, not Shadow of.
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>>573825
>Go on Amos its just one Paladin take him out like you did with that other one
And now Amos has become King
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>>573832
I do so love that manga.
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>>573809
>Amos has to fight Green Man Dagon and its followers, who have converted the local population into mind-controlled slaves
>Its biology is so far from a mech's setup that crits don't work
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>>573825

Hey even Roarke had to start somewhere.

Amos will live up to the hype, might take him a while to get that experienced mind you, but I have faith in the guy.
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>>573838
>yfw they send three paladins at once to take out Amos because he is an active and seemingly extreme threat
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>>573835
Pssh. If anything a biological entity should suffer more from crits. A mecha doesn't feel pain, nor does it bleed. A green man though? I betcha it does both.
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>>573835
Huh...? Wait...where was it? I could just swear that it was here just now...oh no....
Did someone saw my sanity? I think i lost it.
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>>573834
And thank you for reminding me to check for a new chapter
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>>573846
You're welcome.
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>>573845
I think you lost it when you came to 4chan,
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>>573841
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>>573851
bloody wasted get.
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>>573856
woops wrong thread.
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>>573843
And yet Green Man bio-armor was equivalent of mechs, and the Green Men were so deadly that burning them all to ash was considered the best response.

And a superweapon Green Man like this would be so alien that regular engineering no longer applies to it and its spent so long on this world that it's no rooted into the biosphere. Every tree, every blade of grass, every patch of moss and forest of seaweed now IS the Green Man
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>>573860
Orbital bombardment time
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>>573860
Well then the next course of action would be an Exterminatus.
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>>573851
Hmmm....you may have a point.
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"Alright, cover her cockpit hatch with epoxy. You heard what she said about her age, who knows what else the Green Man built into her when she was modified?" The Lieutenant orders. The Palomino IIs zip over on their Mantas to do the job while voices chant what you assume is praise in Arabic over the comms and you share high-fives with Simon, the Lieutenant, and his squadmates as well. You feel dizzy and lightheaded. You can't believe it. You just took down a Paladin, with the very first shot you landed. You're under no illusions that you weren't helped out by the Martians that gave their lives to disable her one shield, or that Asphodel's shot didn't help by getting her other shield out of position, but..holy shit, you know how this is going to look, later.

You feel as though a great current, the tide of some vast, dark ocean, eddies around your feet. You may not be swept away yet, but you feel its pull, and you have no idea what direction it's taking you in. By rights, the rain should have stopped, that's what it would do in a simflick, but it's pouring down all the harder as your mecha drag the Berenger into one of the Cassim's Folly's mechbays and bolt it into a rack. Time seems to pass at an odd pace, slow and yet moving quickly between events.

At some point, you find your PC in your hand, and realize you've brought up your contacts list.

Was there something you wanted to do with it?

>[Do you want to send a message to someone?]
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>>573872
to Irina "hey babe, omw back now, got a present for you. p.s- I have the weirdest craving for pineapple upside down cake right now."
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>>573872
Do we have a cute little sister back home?
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>>573872
>"So... Are you free tonight?"
To Irina.
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>>573872
Irina.
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>>573872
The only people we would even think of talking to are Irina or possibly Caesar, but we're not even in the same system as him, so Irina it is.
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>>573872
"Mission Accomplished, we're heading back."
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>>573872
Can't stop feeling like this.
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>>573887
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSSPs-ZtA3I
oops, the link didn't went.
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>>573872

Irina

So you and Vodka up for a Double date with me and Cheeseburger later?
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>>573891
THIS.
HAHAHAHAHAHA.
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>>573891
I'm backing this.
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>>573881
And be sure to tell her all about how we, a brave knight, succeeded due to our fair ladies favor. haha. But seriously Pumpkinseed II and missiles.
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So are we gonna go talk to four x four about how we kicked her Paladin's ass

>>573634
Don't worry I expect he might be their as someones plus one for the wedding
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>>573891
I can get behind this
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>>573898
Maybe we can parade Maria by, Hannibal style, past her cell?
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>>573902
Not to be petty. Psychological warfare. The vassal is the weaker link compared to the centuries old Paladin.
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>>573898
>>573902
we could always swing by and see what 2x4 is up to while wearing Maria's hat. See how long it takes her to start freaking out.
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>>573898
Man, Avalon is going to be shocked that they lost 2 paladins in combats to previously unknown forces. The Blue Knight of Jov and the Pirate King Roh Ark.
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>>573910
We can bring a fake model of her head with us as a joke
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>>573912
That would be no joke but a cruel prank.

For a joke, we wear her hat.
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>>573912
Can we not? Thats like the worse joke possible and will make interrogation that much harder.
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>>573872
>You heard what she said about her age, who knows what else the Green Man built into her when she was modified

>>573905
Do we have any insight to how she or even Lori might be as old as they are? I'm pretty sure Eustace said he was around 40, which would be reasonable as that's when the Lady fell to their planet. But it couldn't be the Lady that's allowing people like Lori or our new Paladin prisoner to live for centuries as she wasn't on the planet then.
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>>573872
Can we message our favorite cat girl mechanic and tell her we are alright since she was worried as well?
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>>573915
>>573914
It'll be fine we'll bring out the Paladin and then show her all the cameras and then we'll all have a good laugh
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>>573916
By the sounds of it, Marie was an old vet of the first war against the green man who likely had enough and deserted. Considering the likes of the Green Skulls, I can see why.
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>>573921
No it will not.

Shes already slightly unhinged and i'd prefer not to make it worse.
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>>573921
Yeah no. Shock comedy was never really that funny, especially with family members or people you are close with. Be graceful in victory for who knows what the future will bring.
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'So are you and Vodka up for a double date with me and Bacon Cheeseburgers later?' You send a message to Irina. You'll write a paper letter home later, it's traditional to send paper letters to family, but Irina is only a few hours away.

Less than a minute later you get your reply, 'Lieutenant just reported in 2 Cap. Clearwater with ASP footage from Luxol. So angry I could spit nails that you volunteered for obvious suicide mission BUT OMJ OMJ OMJ!!!! :D :D :D Amos I forgive you THIS TIME because you survived and when you get back I'll be waiting. I can't believe you won!'

You send her a heart icon, she sends you one back with a wink.

Outside, the storm howls against the hull of the Cassim's Folly in a way that you've never experienced growing up on a colony, but that's alright. You're starting to love the sound of real rain.

[Continued]
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>>573919

Sure, what do you want to say to her?
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>>573921
The head thing is a bit vulgar and tasteless. Just chiming in.
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>>573922
That would make sense. I was sort of under the impression she was a century or two in age, though I suppose depending on what sort of modification tech Avalon has thanks to their goddess, she could have been geriatric when the Green Man fell.
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>>573942
Well that we alright I guess for starters, I guess promise to get her some fish since she was worried.
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>>573936
>Shock comedy was never really that funny
Looks like my new show "Your Baby's dead" isn't going to be a hit
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>>573938
The planet has grown angry at us. Space Cthulu comes
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>>573951
The world just wasn't prepared for it yet Thunder...
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>>573938
Man, the Gyan Krieger is going to be such a nice upgrade. After all, we just validated her, got the supplies back, AND brought a pally with all it's tech.
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>>573955
You mean "The Greenman-absolute-life-form-its-everywhere-thing is angry at us"? Right?
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>>573968
Where's the God-Emperor when you need him.
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>>573964
Do you know that it probably uses the same bio-tech that karen has in the Anseis, right? And that Irina is growing it in her bathroom as we speak, right?
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>>573971
The God-Emperor? WHERE IS THE EXTERMINATUS!?

Oh wait... We have MEGABASS.
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>>573972
The Anseis doesn't have biotech, it just has mech components arranged to imitate Green Man biotechnology
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>>573971
The God Emperor was already with us today giving us our million to 1 reactor shot on the paladin.
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>>573976
ALL HAIL THE GOD-EMPEROR!!
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You also send one to Marilyn, 'Your food supply is safe'

'You being safe is better, big guy.' She messages you back, with a cute smiling cat image at the end.

When you get back, you're surrounded by people trying to pat you on the back. You hear the phrase 'most amazing thing I've ever seen' echoed in more ways and with more repetition than you could ever have imagined. It all blurs together, and you just smile and nod along until Marilyn elbows her way through and rescues you, putting an arm around your shoulders and leading you away. Surprisingly, you don't see Irina there.

Marilyn takes you to Irina's room, though, and gives you a little push and grin, "Go to her, she needs you right now. You're really something, Amos, you know that?" She looks at the door as though expecting Irina to kick it down and pounce on you, before she continues in a lower voice, "She started crying when she saw the footage, you know."

[Continued]
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Maybe we should give Lyn a quick kiss before we head in
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>>573990

One thing at a time thunder.

Let the man rest, you can make your magic happen after he's had his cheeseburger and vodka.
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>>573990
Eh, I feel our characters are a bit too much the womanizer in this quest. I'm fine with Roarke's situation, and despite not being a huge fan of it, I'm alright with Moe. Caesar's really the only one that's going solo on the waifu thing, plus in character I don't feel Amos would be a two timer.
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>>573992
Irina's gonna keep us busy as anything after this date
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>>573990
Yeah nah. Amos shall go see his girl. This is probably the best moment in her life.
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>>573995
I agree. There'll be plenty of time for cat lady later.
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>>573996
Agreeing, no cat lady at this moment.
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And because I am waiting, have a possible Grampa Wedge.
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You knock on the door, and it swings open. "Irina, I'm home." You call out.

She's looking out the mural viewport on one wall, watching the rain. The sun is setting, turning the sky outside golden through the clouds, the rain falling giving it a misty, unreal feeling. "Amos Adventure Wedge. There are a lot of things I could say to you right now. I could tell you how unbelievably angry I am that you volunteered for a mission like that, I could yell at you, scream at you, throw a tantrum, guilt trip you...even though I knew what you were going to do even before you volunteered." She shakes her head, "Or I could tell you that what you did just made you a hero and me...well...I'm going to get promoted for sure. We'll be set for life now, Amos. I could start talking about an us, about a future, about...about something besides all of these projects and secrets and mecha we have to defeat and people we have to kill. There's that, too, but...when I saw the Berenger fall down, I didn't think about being angry, or being proud, I just thought 'he's coming home alive.' She looks at you over her shoulder, her voice quivering a little as she bites her lip, "I'm such a coward, Amos, I was so scared for you. While you were on your way, I...I started praying my Manta would break, that I'd screwed up the engineering somehow and the rain would cause it to short out. Fuck my career, I just wanted you. All I want is you." Her voice is unsteady, and she smiles tenatively, but remains where she was standing.

"I want you too, is something wrong? Are you alright?" You wonder why she seems so nervous.

"I-I'm just fine, Amos. I've always been reliable and aloof, every friend I've ever had has said so, so yes, I'm stable and composed. I'm calm. Perfectly calm. I'm just going to...to put on the rest of my clothes b-because I'm really not in any emotional state to do the whole s-sexy technician thing." She turns around, revealing the reason why she's been standing like that. She's naked except for her lab coat. "We'll go drink, have a nice meal, come home, and then...and then...AMOOOOOOOS!" She pounces on you, hitting the lock button on the door and tearing at the fastenings of your pilot suit, "Darling...darling...my darling Amossss~"

The lights were already dimmed when you came in, and as the sun sets the lights go out on their own.
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>>574023

And that's when Amos woke up severely dehydrated with a broken pelvis.
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>>574031

thats assuming he even has the chance to go to sleep before reporting in the next day
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>>574031
I don't understand your problem
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>>574023
HOLY SHIT, SHE IS ROSITAS SISTER!
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What's the maximum number of posts on a /qst/ thread, again? I'm wondering if, at 420, I'd be better served to start a new thread tomorrow or continue this one. That gives Amos some time to do stuff with Irina and deal with the initial fallout of this extremely unexpected development.
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>>574041
....Maybe its just the writing, but this is powerful circumstantial evidence, if you allow a family behavioral resemblance.
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>>574042

750
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>>574042
I believe a thread hits auto sage around 750 posts, but it isn't uncommon for a thread to have between 1000-2000 posts
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>>574042
I've seen threads hit over a thousand, I wouldn't worry about it
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>>574042
Its in the 700s if I recall. Plenty for it-

>>574041
Shit.. didn't her sister take Singing, Dancing lessons and thats why she couldn't get her art job?
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>>574042
One step wartime promotion for all pilots in the forlorn hope? Considering what the strike force did, I think its deserved.
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No we just have to watch Shinji try to hit on Noriko and all will be right with the world
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>>574023
My kokoro....Ahh..It's just...too kawai desu...
*ODA INTENSIFIES*
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>>574044
>>574045
>>574047

Perfect.
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>>574053
Just hope he doesn't do it drunk.
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>>574053
Define "hit on"
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>>574053
Why you gotta raise a death flag man? Still waiting for the squad massacre when Roland and 4 other Paladins show up to rescue Berenger and Shinji gets kidnapped to become EVA-01
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>>574058
hit on
: to make especially sexual overtures to
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>>574050

Might be a bit more than one step for SOUL C, and definitely for you.
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>>574064
Define "sexual".
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>>574069
sexual
: of, relating to, or involving sex
: of or relating to males and females
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>>574064
Well all 9 pilots need to go drinking together. I don't anyone had illusions that everyone was coming home; until we all did.
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>>574050

Also I hope that's a Sharpe reference.
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>>574064
>"Hey baby, you wanna bang so hard it'll cause a Third, Fourth and Fifth Impact?"
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>>574075
I must most regretfully inform that I have no bibbly bobbly clue.
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>>574068
Jesus is going to be so damn jealous of us it'll be hilarious. Still, got to wonder what upgrades Biggs and Garma will be getting for their machine.
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>>574084
Oh yea.

And we did it with a missile. Not a super special beam cannon.
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>>574075
Do you like Sharpe, Wong?
That Brazilian rpg i spoke about, the BLE, has Sharpe as one of its inspirations...
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>>574091

Indeed I do. By the way, I particularly liked those hussar mech designs you posted a few threads ago, the head shape is very much like how I imagined the S-Flowerhorn.
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>>574091
Please tell me thre's a unit with anti-mech rifles or something
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>>574087

You also did it in a grunt mech, not a SOUL mech. Consider how that looks in a recruiting ad.
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At any rate, goodnight everyone, we'll continue this at the usual time tomorrow.
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>>574100
And Company brochures and fliers advertising the Pumpkinseed II.

I wonder if amos will get endorsement money.
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>>574098
An human unit or an Mech unit?
You can always make an robot with the sufficient firepower of sniping...

Human unit? The Imperial Army probably has something of the like, but the author didn't explore it at length yet. But i would say, that extrapolating the rules about "Military Units" it is quite plausible to snipe Robots if you have enough equipments or training to do it(and people).
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>>574096
You mean the Imperial Hussar?
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>>574113

Yes, the ones that look like they're wearing tall hats.
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>>574117
Hahahaha, do not forget about the moustache.
Want pics?
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>>574100
There is also the fact that Amos is as bread and butter as you can get for a soldier. No special lineage, no super mech when he did his action, and the threat has been real and close instead of far away. He's a everyman who became a hero through sheer grit and patriotism, fought to protect his friend and country while not preeching about this or that.

An approachable person who follows the spirit of duty instead of the word. Yeah, Jesus got overshadowed immensely by this. Roarke and the Kaiser will be known for withstanding a onslaught with but his fists and Amos will be known as the pauper who became a knight.
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>>574117
They are not the only ones with tall hats...
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Thanks for running wong.
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>>574098
>>574112

The Ordinary Order of The Lady's Divine Wind.

Combined mech and space infantry avalonian unit, with the fast mechs also being APCs.

Space Infantry element are green man infused avalonian plebians who utilise jet packs to fix themselves to High Priority targets and detonate themselves.
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Thanks for running Wong!
It was an honor, like always
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>>574131
Didn't they already tried it?In Mars?
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>>574129
damn, last guy's too low res. replacement here. Night thread.
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>>572315
I guess one good thing about /qst/ is that I can show up 9 hours late and the thread will still be up.
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>>574161
Lucky You
...And we can still debate strategies when Wong is gone.

but unrelated to that, what anime carcters do you guys want to be added to this game? We already discussed about that but some people just weren't around.
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>>574175
For anime Characters, I'd say Cima Garahau. She's a UC pirate with an interesting past. Plus, we've already designed her Mecha >>572416 even if its missing a few weapons to get it under the point limit.

Anyway, one thing I would say is that now I really regret us not seeing Roarke's interview before we went out to fight the Paladin. His endorsement of the Pumpkinseed II has lost a lot of its impact, especially with Irina. Along with the whole "defeating a paladin" thing.

On the plus side, this probably helps Countess Le Kennedy a lot personally. Her allies now have a new person to be totally dismissive of, so her defeat probably won't splash as badly on her. At least she lost to an ace who wrecked people in the very machines the other paladin just jobbed to. Plus, she's no longer the only paladin captured, so the Sol people are going to be a bit less interested in her.
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>>574262
It depends on if we can keep her for the 3 months before the auction, but yes it will likely affect the auction. For one, it increases the value of every Paladin for Avalon since they can't afford losing the command power in the war front. On the other hand, the value of said Paladin may drop slightly for the other sides since they have to pay off for the other one. Could also rise though, since it emboldens them to take out one sixth of the enemy's command structure on the field. But the biggest thing I can see is that it opens up more possibilities for negotiations since the demand for a witch for the pyre will likely lessen with Marie who is both a paladin and possible traitor.
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>>574364
You may call it weakness... but i don't revel in the thought of Marie dying... Her death would make the universe poorer by losing someone with so much history and momentum...
But at this time, could we really do something about it? Would Roark even care that a "FILTHY GREENMAN LOVER" died?
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>>574612
Probably not since he never even met her.
Also I told you nerds missile spam would get her.
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>>574626
Nah, it could have gone completely different.
This time, it was just the GOD-EMPEROR'S WILL.
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>>574612
Not Roarke's front, not roarke's problem. Besides, Galbaddy and the green skulls had history and momentum too. Only difference is he was a fat fuck with low morals and Marie is a old lady who had a lot of greenman plastic surgery.
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>>574695
Nah, she is a Centuries old suberb fighter with a long life of adventures, Galbadie was just a veteran from the war who passed most of his life stuck in a ship killing and slaving people, the similarities are only superficial.
It's like comparing Yoda and Darth Vader and saying that they are the same because both have force powers and turn to ghosts.
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>>574262
Would she be the hard bitten pirate who finds Moe oddly fluffy, or the leader of the inevitable pirate alliance that tries to oppose the Kestrels. Or both?
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>>574722
..Dude, there is no confirmation that she is centuries old. Maybe if she was 80 or so when the clock was turned back, but thats not so much an issue as saying she was 'good'. Both were skilled since Galbadie, even fat and old was able to make an entire crew A class just by connecting them to his body. We also know little of her other than she was around when the confederation is a thing, which might not be as big a deal as you think if the time period was around 80 or so years ago. She may be a old ace, but she is no Yoda. She may preech virtues, but she set up ambushes, was unwilling to compromise, and allow her subordiants to self destruct instead of escaping or surrendering. Until proven otherwise, she's just a pretty face connected to another chain of travesties. I chose not to kill her out of tactical sense, not any thought that she was good.
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I made yet another mech to add to the pile. Dont know if efficient transformation is tech we can use yet but if it isnt just replace it with weapon networking since thats what I actually intended it to use before I realized they were the same price.
http://pastebin.com/jZQ6i4Tu

I also made a more expensive version for cooler guys who might not be cool enough to actually have names.
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>>574753
I propose that we wait and see, but give her the benefit of doubt.
And i'm not saying that she is "one of the good guys" just that her history and knowledge may be interesting as her personal experience is so uncommomly vast... If she indeed is more than a century old...
And... as far as we know, she might be the last surviving human that really know what the Confederation was up to before the war.
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>>574778
Not really up to us this time. We arent even a sergeant, although we probably have promotions incoming now.
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>>574760
>http://pastebin.com/jZQ6i4Tu
Hmmm.... I really liked it, it sounds like and viable option for an generic grunt unit... Better than an Harpy, at least.
If we can have more than one type of custom mass produced unit, i would vouch for giving it a chance.

...Unless we could get an zaku instead.
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>>574788
Ah, thats okay, i was saying "us" as in "us the players".
Amos and Roark don't really care about that all, i think, so we have to act in consideration to their opinions.
We could try to interrogate her about the CTULHU thing though.
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>>574798
>>574798
Personally, we should have one transformable fighter mecha like this or the Roc and one heavier mech like the not Gebera Tetra. Also, fluff should be mandatory
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>>574805
I suspect it to be a greenman, possibly in a bio-mech.
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>>574262
>Anyway, one thing I would say is that now I really regret us not seeing Roarke's interview before we went out to fight the Paladin. His endorsement of the Pumpkinseed II has lost a lot of its impact, especially with Irina. Along with the whole "defeating a paladin" thing.
Yeah, that really put the context on its head.

Although still, Amos knows he got a mad lucky shot, while Roarke tore one apart in pure contest of power and skill.
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>>574818
So...Government living on appearence of power while the Independent live on their real skills, like real life?

Anarchy 1, Jupiter 0.
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>>574818
Probably the best way to handle it would be for the Martain ship be carrying the interview, the news and some news from the company as a result of the interview
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>>574837
Real skill, a few non-standard upgrades and a highly specialized custom mech.
>>574818
>>574847
Has the interview even happened at this point?
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>>574853
We were originally going to see the interview two sessions ago
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>>574847
>Probably the best way to handle it would be for the Martain ship be carrying the interview
Yea, that's what I think Wong has had planned.
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Can't wait to see MEGABASS job.
>>574853
>Real skill, a few non-standard upgrades and a highly specialized custom mech.
That upgrades and specialization we got with our real skills? Still counts.
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>>574883
Its a bit unfair to compare the results of such an expensive mech vs a mook with a nice gun. Especially when the mook technically got much better results.
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>>574898
Results?Maybe.
But here between us... we know it was that "one in a milion shot" type of thing, i don't think it's unfair when we probably can't trust in repeating the results '-'
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>>574927
Its all a dice game at the end of the day.
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Unrelated... Here in /qst/ what is the point of not being a namefag...? Isn't it better to be remembered as "Insert name" than "268Hth87" or something?
This is strange eons indeed
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>>574936
Isn't life an dice game too?
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>>574946
Because IDs are something forced upon us. To namefag would be to give in and be a complete faggot, no anonymity or becoming semi-anonymous among different threads, building an identity and letting other people fuck around with your name unless you get a trip
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>>574946
IDs change, culture of anonimty remains.
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>>574952
I dont roll a d10 every time I take a piss is all I'll say.
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>>574959
Relax bro, it was just a joke....
...Or was it not?
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>>574898
Depends on how you view it. Both Roarke and Amos show two different pictures that come to the same result. Roarke shows that yes, we have our own aces who can fight in old model machines and not only come out on top, but do so with relatively little damage. That sets a goal, a sense of safety, and says that with talent you can reach such heights. Amos was a nobody who rose to Soul C and then proceeded to one shot a mech that was out of his league. It shows there is power in numbers, that a bad day can befall even the Avalonians, and even those from poor positions can rise to great heights with that one lucky shot. Both are important for drumming up support, but both are not Fairchild's personal team and thus will still cause her grief.

>>574946
Because I am old anon who was around when a dwarf rose to become a god and have a sun son and I believe my worth should be made by my actions and merits instead of by my name and past.
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>>574982
I completely agree anon, I honestly hope people don't agree with my ideas and write ins just because I am who I am
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>>574982
>Because I am old anon who was around when a dwarf rose to become a god and have a sun son (...).
Is this an /tg/ thing? i would like to know more.
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>>575043
Dwarf Quest, one of the earliest quests on /tg/ made around the same time as Ruby quest. They were the starting point of quests going from 'what do' scenarios to more in depth things. Then you have the likes of Zeon quest, Ogre Civ quest and the games made by Blorp, Totemist quest, Maverick Hunter Quest which has been going on for 4 years now. The archives for these games can be found on sup/tg/ if you so choose to look.
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>>575058
>mfw I was around for the start of Totemist quest
Has it really been so long? Also wasnt drew first?
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>>575064
Drew probably was. Like I said, it was one of the earliest, but possibly not THE earliest. I remember the Runic Men, when a old man exploded a eldrich horror in a hockey ring, when a bunch of drawfags made TGchan to post their own quests for moderate success for a while. I saw a Gundam Age Quest and a Ghostbusters in Japan quest that petered out due to shitters. I have raffles for dice bags and hand made arts and crafts and draw fags come and go. A stain on my mind like the moister from a cup with no coaster.
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It's nice not having to bump from work anymore.
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>>574805
>>574817

Who said there was one?
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>>574837

I don't know if you can call it anarchy, the captains and Admiral keep their people under control.
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>>575142
Well there is some sort of subject to be retrieved.
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>>575165
The lady's old crayon drawings from when she was a kid
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>>575171
>Greenman
>kid
Dont think thats how clones work.
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>>575131
Woong, how much are you looking forward to writing our captive knight's reaction when she learns what happened to the paladin?
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>>575184
I imagine it being a bit like that one kid with glasses in hot fuzz when he gets asked his age.
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>>575182
Could be accelerated aging for all we know
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>>575142
And then we find out that there is a old greenman bio armor that has gone feral that the suits want to reverse engineer for our use. Using some armor plating and tech from the ship, they'll make it possible for a pilot to control it normally and have Simon GET IN THE ROBOT.
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>>575146
True. And its likely to get less anarchistic when Rorake actually begins taking territory. My money is that we'll end up with something like an elective constitutional monarchy. House of commons, Pirate Council and Pirate King. Also strong worker protection laws and Germany tier unions.
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>>575215
So long as we steer clear of their UN policies and the like. Open borders have not been kind to them.
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>>575221
To be fair, Japan tier no immigration can fuck over a country even worse. Can argue either way.
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>>575232
Japan tier no fucking probably doesnt help them much either.
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>>575234
Oh, its reinforcing. But Germany has a birthrate problem too, so adding in immigrants makes some sense. There are upsides and downsides to the call.
That said, the Euro is a fucking retarded idea and should die in a fire. Thank you EU for making Obama look like an economic genius.
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>>575232
It's a case of knowing your limits and how much you can provide. Immigration and trade along with tourists are fine, but you need to have some stability and keep immigration controlled. Less a issue in space mind you, butdamned if I let greenskin sympathizers try for a majority.
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>>575234
Won't be too much of a problem since we'll probably let our men take concubines from raids
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>>575249
>>575246
Not really any huge negative for immigration in space. Everyone already seems to roll randomly for what nationality they are and everyone is already nuts thanks to fucking space madness.
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>>575262
Unchecked Immigration is a death blow to any civilization. If we go with Immigration we make it clear that they have to be part of the pirate crew and only take the best and brightest ala 1800s america
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>>575275
I mean what are they going to do, bring their money back to space poland instead of spend it in our place?
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>>575291
No but free immigration means its easier to get into our borders and that means its easy to sneak in spies and operatives which weakens our kingdom
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>>575293
Do remember that the Asteroid Belt is the major trade lane between the inner and outer systems. Having an isolationist policy would fuck up our own economy and Sols. So we're going to have to deal with infiltrators. Plus, the Asteroid belt is already a melting pot without much of a dominant culture, so I don't see the problem with immigration, since the net result would probably be people who don't like the new management would largely leave and people who are sick of the Megacorps bullshit join up.
Though I am tempted to have Rorake convert to Norse Religion for space Vikings.
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>>574047
I remember when Homeless Mutant quest hit 1000 on /tg/. Damn fine.
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>>575570
We could probably use the laws the Ironborn use for the most part and it would suit us fine
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>>575608
But they suck and we buy stuff with money all the time.
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>>575608
Hell no. That ideal wouldn't work for a functioning economy. We're pro worker, fuck the megacorps. The idea of people who work with their hands, like say our brother or Karen, being thralls? Nope
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>>575640
Thats the big change, take most of the laws except the Iron price and it should work fine for us

>>575651
And as far as thralls it should be up to the man who captures you to decide what he wants to do
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>>575665
>And as far as thralls it should be up to the man who captures you to decide what he wants to do
I am fairly sure thats the opposite of being a thrall. Really the only thing they both have in common is the piracy.
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>>575687
Pretty much. Can't see of us approving of the idea of a Salt Wife. Can't see of us approving of the idea of thralls. We don't approve of the idea of the Iron Price. So what's left?
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>>575687
What I mean is the captor can choose what he wants to do with who he captures, be it make them a thrall, or sell them back
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>>575687
No wait, I read that wrong. Thats pretty thrallish alright. Also sort of against everything roarke has done so far. Our captives dont get forced to do labor, they just get stuck in cells so we can ransom them.
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>>575703
We haven't need anyone to do forced labor yet though, everything we've needed so far we can do with the people we had since were small time. When we have dozens of colonies to run while still keeping strong crews who can fight the Solars and Avalonians it will be different
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>>575698
Not farming or making stuff is also out because we want to build our own shit and there are mining colony's just sitting there waiting to be converted into production powerhouses.
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>>575720
We don't shit on people who do that though.
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>>575717
I dont know man, the people running the colony's can probably continue to run them. I doubt we are going to recruit so many people they will start to become derelict.
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>>575734
Thats why I said its out.
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>>575737
Yes and when we have those colonies under us we have to be able to defend them and thats going to be incredibly hard if Sol throws their weight at us. Having people captured to work the mines and factories will let us have more people who can join our crew and fight making us able to hold our territory
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>>575752
...That's against everything Rorake stands for. NO
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>>575758
Alright whats your plan then? How are we going to keep all these colonies feed and making what we need while defending them from a government that has planets?
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>>575249
Willing consorts only. We are not Green Skulls. Never go Green Skulls.
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>>575752
Somehow I cant see a huge number of people wanting to live in a place thats down with this. And I was advocating confiscation of deserters mechs last thread.

You would also need to be capturing shitloads of guys to make that work. It didnt work for the ironborn and they were on one shitty, I cant see it working for multiple space colonies.
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>>575767
The obvious answer seems to be to steal a planet.
Other then that round up all the rest of the pirates around to bulk up the numbers.
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>>575808
We already have almost all the belt pirates, and I doubt we can get any of the planets, remember the more we threaten Sol the quicker they will be to turn away from the Avalonians and attack us
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Honestly I expect this about to go as well as the Pirate Republic of Nassau.
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>>575808
>fairchild's reeee was powerful enough to blow up Avalon itself across the stars
>but why?
>Roarke Starwind somehow managed to loot and relocate a planet
>with a strong amazonian culture
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>>575752
Yeah.. no way in hell are we pulling a green skull. The hell is with you? Chances are if we play smart and aren't total ass hats it shouldn't be so hard to gain workers and farmers. Hell, if we can provide a safe spot from the war outside the belt, many would likely join right away. No way in hell we are using slavery or thralls when we have been dealing with slavers and thrall herds.
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>>575767
Careful diplomacy. To start off with, its known that Fatima's father owned multiple colonies besides Suliman one. http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/47122506/ mentioned it a few times. So we start off by "securing her property" which will be unlikely to provoke a response. Then absorb the remaining pirates and absorb the rest of the Belt, possibly along with the Trojan's and the Greeks.
When we want to take back Earth, we start with gating into earth's orbit when the Moon is on the opposite of its orbit from its target. We Blitz the planet and capture our primary landing Zone as quickly. Then Gretchkin delivers an exclusive on the REAL status of Earth, Live from Mecca, which the evil Terrans are selfishly preventing the Martians from completing their religiously mandated pilgrimage to Mecca. Cue panning shot.
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>>575839
Which is why we need to learn from that and figure out how to prevent the same thing from happening and besides it'll probably be different since we have mechs that can take on dozens of mooks at a time

>>575863
And how are they going to get to the colonies? Sol is going to shut down transportation so far when we declare independence
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>>575822
We adopt the Tau strategy of being too small and non threatening to attack while the big bad Avalonians try to stick knights up their ass. We sidle up to some fringe planet that is fed up with their shit and we be all like "hey why dont you come join us we got pirate bitches, low space taxes and Roarke Starwind! He fights paladins and doesnt afraid of nothing" No fighting involved
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>>575872
The Martians won't give up those colonies, Fatima went rogue they will go to one of her sisters. And even if we did that would immediately make the Martians attack us since they need those colonies
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>>575699
So Galbadie's rigwork was perfectly legal? Alright then.
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>>575874
>And how are they going to get to the colonies? Sol is going to shut down transportation so far when we declare independence
Not only do we have our own spaceships, practically everyone we have met either owns a spaceship or works from one.
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>>575874
Thats a major if and requires a lot of planning. All you are doing is what ifs and offering solutions that would GUARANTEE those things come to fruition. Its the sort of shit Fairchild is hoping we do to give her a reason to come down on us. If we do the negotiations right, we can likely do this without causing any major issue and possibly gain support from Mars.

I know we're Char, but this is not the time to go Char's Counterattack in terms of mood and personality whiplash.
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>>575894
...You do realize that she's just gotten off the phone from talking to Hakim the Kinless? Aka the dictator of Mars? And that she's inviting the Martian Nobility to her wedding?
Stop talking out of your ass.
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>>575907
And we would have to ferry them off planets which are loaded with soldiers and defenses while fighting off all the forces Sol has watching their planets

>>575913
>Going to a wedding
>Giving up territory to an outside force that will actively threaten you
Those are two very different things anon, going to a wedding doesn't weaken your hold on the galaxy
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>>575911
They aren't going to give up territory in their backyard which is a major trade root while at war outside the solar system, that is a retarded deal
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>>575926
>Those are two very different things anon, going to a wedding doesn't weaken your hold on the galaxy
She OWNS the colonies in question. Not much they can do if she hires private security because her father was murdered by a Commodore in the Martian Militia.
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>>575926
Considering we broke into a wedding on mars full of the most influential people from several planets just fine I think we can manage to ferry a few random people around. Shit, illegally transporting people is as pirate a job as you can get.
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>>575950
Yes she owned them WHILE she was still part of the Martian government when you leave that government and marry outside the realm you generally lose those territories and they are handed over to the next in line. Thats how feudalism works, and even then women can't inhert in Islam, not sure about if that has changed or not but ya

>>575956
And we did that way outside of the city and sneaked in in a little transport, if we show up with a full ship it won't go anywhere near the same way
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>>575976
>she was still part of the Martian government when you leave that government and marry outside the realm you generally lose those territories and they are handed over to the next in line
That is totally unsupported by anything anyone has said.
>Thats how feudalism works, and even then women can't inhert in Islam, not sure about if that has changed or not but ya
The Commodore's ENTIRE PLAN relied on female inheritance. Pay attention and stop your weird slave fetish.
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>>575248

It helps if the immigrants you bring in actually want jobs rather than welfare.
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>>575976
A shuttle big enough to hold a squad of scimitars, a squad of stealth harpies at least five bigger than average mechs and the big zam can probably carry a good few people.
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>>575985
That isn't something that comes up in everyday conversation anon

>>575991
Good point wasn't thinking about that, but they probably won't fall for the same trick twice
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>>575987
Hence regulation and screening like any sort of competent structure. This whole pull a green skull thing and go tyrant slaver just came out of bloody left field with no proof of it needed and in such a way that I am sure the majority of our crew would be against including our girls. It's just a bad idea with no thought based on assumptions that might not even happen.
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>>575987
What is the status of Fatima's inheritance anyway? I was assuming that she and her sisters still own it. And that her little sister will show up at some point to make sure that we're a good match for their big sis.
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>>576003
If they have roving bands of mad max motherfuckers regularly knocking out their warning radar the security cant be very tight.
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>>576021
I wouldn't call once regularly
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>>576059
>"The towers are unmanned." Mohammed clarifies, "They frequently go down during sandstorms or are targeted by raiders, so it would be hard to keep people stationed there permanently."
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>>576073
Must have forgotten about that, my bad
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>>576082
Also mech armies arent very big in the first place. A wels holds 130 mechs and that is a big fuck off ship.
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>>576017

You'd have to ask Fatima, but she IS the rightful heir of Sheikh Ahmad's property, and she has been in contact with the Caliph, who was a close, personal friend of her father and rode with him in a tank squad during the War. She's also very determined to be an excellent wife and that includes making sure her new family prospers as well as doing right by the planet she loves. I know exactly what Fatima has done and said to further her particular motivations, but you and Roarke aren't quite aware of it yet.
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The next morning, you're surprised your pelvis doesn't feel broken, that woman was more of a tigress than a native Qu'liri last night. You feel more exhausted than you did when you fell asleep. Of course, the beeping of your alarm was what awakened you, you're sure it's only been a couple of hours since you and Irina fell asleep. Her blonde hair tickles your face as she sits up, leans over you, and sleepily turns off your PC, then smiles at you and curls up with her head on your chest.

You agree with her in spirit, but duty commands you, “Irina, I have to go on patrol...”

“No you don't.” She mumbles, “Before you got back, I talked the Cap'n into making exemptions for everyone who went. You're getting a day off, and that's that. We're getting a day off.” She blinks, then smiles sleepily and smacks herself lightly on the forehead, “I remember saying something about no strings attached, but here I am planning our day.” She reaches up and ruffles your hair.

>[What say?]
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>>576231
>When now that you've got me in your trap, what's the rest of your masterplan
>Say it jokingly
Time to Amos Bond
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>>576231
Hey wong, is efficient transformation something we can do yet?
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>>576231
"Lets, check to see if the Martians brought any mail. Then go gloat at the Avalonians."
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>>576231
>"I'm sure whatever you have planned beats 8 hours on Patrol"
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>>576231
A yes'm and knowing what her plans are should suffice. She'll probably have to talk to our buddies about their SOUL machines along with us, so that might be a thing. Kinda curious what she has planned since it's both something we enjoy and what brought us back.
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"That's not so bad." You admit, "Well, now that you've got me in your trap, what's the rest of your master plan?" You waggle your eyebrows at her.

She giggles and shoves you, "I'm going to sleep for a while longer, and so are you. Then I'm going to invade your life even more than I already have, and be clingy and annoying and a general pain to you and your friends, and hope that I'm good enough to you to make up for it." She kisses you. "I'll certainly do my best. After we eat, we can figure out what I'm building for you with the supplies we received and deal with the prisoner...along with whatever announcements and speeches the Captain makes. I don't know what's going to happen next, Amos, I really don't...but it's going to be huge." She smiles, yawns, and closes her eyes again, getting comfortable. You're just starting to drift off again yourself when she says in a voice made hazy by slumber, "Amos, if I told you something was classified, really classified, would you not look into it? Even if it involved me?"

>[What say?]
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>>576403
I'm a soldier, Staying inside of my pay grade is part of my job.
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>>576403
>>576426

this is fine.
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>>576403
Pretty much. We won't push when it comes to that sort of thing, but if it involves us, our friends, the nice people in this town, or you, we'd at least like to know enough to help and make sure they're alright.
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>>576403
this
>>576426
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>>576426
Backing, at the end of the day Amos is just a soldier
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So anons, what do you feel are some of Roarke's flaws?
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"I'm a soldier, right? Staying inside my pay grade is part of my job." You smile at her, and she smiles back, her arms tightening around you.

"I knew I could trust you." She mumbles.

"But if it involves us or the civilians, or you, I'd at least like to know enough to help if things go wrong." You yawn heavily as you talk.

She nods, "I promise." With a contented smile on her face, she drops back into slumber.

When you wake up for real, feeling refreshed, the two of you shower together and go to greet the day. However, she pauses in the doorway, grabbing your hand and smiling brightly at you, "I can be discreet, if you want. It's up to you, but I'm not shy about this anymore."

>[Yes]
>[No]
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>>576529
He cant shoot a gun in a mech for shit.
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>>576535
>>576403

Double damn it /m/!
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>>576535
>>[No]
Amos doesn't afraid of anything
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>>576535
>>[No]
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>>576535
>[No]
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>>576535
>>[No]
"Everyone knows anyway."
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>>576535
No, but you should know that I'm a wild stallion who can't be tamed.
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>>576529
Roarke is a pretty specialized sort of guy who covers a lot of issues with his allies and girls. While he's amazing in combat, he's slowly getting better at everything else. Stubborn as hell when it comes to things of interest and will bust down anything to get what he wants. In a way he'll keep grudges against individuals and we've been pretty backhanded to those who screw us over which makes playing political a bit harder. In the end? Roarke is a bit of a Romanticist who cares for his own. Messing with his people riles the Bull of Io and in a way, that makes him easy to maneuver. After all we always go for Slayer rather than Jesus, right?
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>>576568
Which is why i still say we have to kick Bucephalus out of the belt possible every major corp.
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Okay, i just caught up to the replies while i was gone, and i'm kind of occupied today, but let's get this clear.

LET'S NOT BECOMES "JUST ANOTHER STATE".

No, slaving, no thralls, no "protecting the workers from the evil megacorporation because of equality", and no siding with the megacorporations too.
In another words, PLEASE, no extreme Left or Right policies from point zero that can automatically backslash on us.

I offer an alternative, lets not give any power to the population over laws and such, instead, lets be an "Megacorporation" in the ancap sense, that is, justify everything in the basis of consent ("This is a free territory where you can be yourself!") but treats the territory as our POSSESSION, not has a country, do not give any justificative to claims about "the population has the right of(insert any democratic argument)" by not making it a nation in the same sense the Planets are.
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>>576568
Jesus was 10k away when we were fighting the two. Also, the slayer is far more dangerous because Jesus is a moron.
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>>576586
Only because there was a convenient colony to hide behind. Dodging two shots every turn would have quickly turned bad for us.
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>>576568
Pretty on point anon, I'd also sat that Roarke is pretty cocky
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>>576586
True, but it's something to consider if we are the ones chasing Slayer next time. Got to steal some mantas.

>>576596
Ssssorta. I mean, some of it is well earned with his victories, but he can also act rather prudent. We won't go after fleets and we don't consider ourself invincible, but it does get on the nerves of certain sorts of people.
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>>576612
Yes Roarke can be prudent but you have to look at who he usually operates. I mean he had a fight that almost destroyed his powerplant, and then went right on to go solo with a paladin with minimal repairs
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>>576582
Bro the whole reason i keep whole hog saying that we should kick Bucephalus out of the belt is because it is in character for roarke he is after all pretty backhanded to those who screw him over. its not about protecting people from oppression its about spite.
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>>576631
Pretty much hit the nail on the head, I think at the end of the day alot of people forget that Roarke is still a criminal and not a hero. Sure he does heroic stuff but its because its his people not because he wants to be a good guy
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>>576642
And the other corps are kinda collateral If we kick them all out there is not much they can do
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>>576670
Yup its smarter to get rid of the corps since they would gain more from Sol then us so there would be a betray at some point. Having the means of mech production run by the state is a smarter move
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>>576676
Hey it worked in Valkryia chronicles, so why wouldn't it work here.
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>>576676
I am not sure if most people will agree with me though, i try to role play in these threads though which is why i usually lurk the first ten threads to see the established character before posting things i think they would say in dialogue, and votes.
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>>576691
I agree wholeheartedly. I feel like alot of time /tg/ tries to decide whats the best choice in the situation rather then what the character would chose. I mean when playing a character you can't ignore their flaws, you need to do what your character would do even if its a bad idea
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"Hell no. Absolutely not. Everyone already knows, anyway, and there's no point in hiding it." You grin cheekily, watching her closely. Sure enough, you see the faintest tinge of pink in her cheeks.

She smiles up at you, an innocent, girlish smile, "Then carry me, Amos. Carry me like a princess."

So you scoop her up in your arms and carry her princess-style towards the mess hall. As you walk, you talk.

"It's not that I was embarrassed, or anything." She clarifies, and you're not entirely certain she's being truthful, "I just didn't want Asphodel or some of the others to give you a hard time."

"The Lieutenant and I are fine now. You voluteer to fight a Paladin with someone and take it down as a team, you learn to be friends." You reassure her.

She smiles and snuggles against you, "Good. He has every right to dislike me. A...certain member of my family is responsible for the death of a certain member of his family, that's all I'm going to say."

"You're not your sister." You reply, a touch gruffly.

She blinks, then glares at you, "How much did that bastard tell you!?"

You shrug, "He didn't name names or anything. I don't really know any other Gaunts besides you, so it's safe to say I wouldn't have heard of the incident."

Irina wrinkles her nose, "Don't jump to conclusions, Gaunt was my stepfather's last name, the only member of my family worth a damn. I had it legally changed long ago."

"So long as you're you, I'm happy." You shrug. She's not a tiny woman, but you're a pillar of fortitude and she's making herself easy to carry. Heads turn as you pass, and there's a lot of giggling from the female troops, but neither of you mind. The occasional "Yo, Corporal Wedge!" from the guys, or "YOU'RE FUCKING AWESOME, BRO!" From one of the MPs is kind of embarrassing and kind of gratifying. You didn't ask for this, you're just happy everyone is going to be safe and the Paladin isn't out there terrorizing anyone anymore. As for Irina, she's slightly pink the whole time, but looks very pleased with herself.

According to the gossip you hear in the halls, it has taken all night to get the epoxy off your captive's cockpit. Apparently Sergeant Nedermeyer started telling a story her Gran told her about how Green Men could possess any mech they touched...which is palpable bullshit even to someone like you who slept through a lot of classes at the Academy...and it spooked her squad to the point where they emptied the clips encasing her cockpit hatch in several feet of epoxy. The stuff has a tendency to get even harder after a few hours, too, which isn't helping, and neither is the fact that the technicians naturally want the Berenger as intact as possible and can't just cut through it with a beam sword. There's no particular rush, as you have the equipment to monitor the Paladin's vitals and nobody is particularly concerned with her growing bored in there.

[Continued]
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>>576705
Exactly.
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>>576642
Hes space robin hood except he steals from the rich and gives to himself. And sometimes he helps people out because hes chill.
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>>576705
I'm of the opinion that /tg/ tends to go for the the more ic options even if they're the worst options.

I've seen it happen on more than one occasion and in separate quests.
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>>576710
>Telling scary stories the night before a mission
Damnit Noriko

>>576727
Not saying they don't just that I notice it happens enough, but honestly it could be hindsight bias on either of our parts. I might just be in quests where it happens more often, and you might just be in quests where it happens less often
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>>576705
For the most part, I say we've played Roarke well. He's a pirate, yes, but he hates the sort of shit the Green Skulls did. He'll capture you and ransom you, but he treats his captives like a human so long as they don't screw with him. He's pretty much Chaotic Good to Neutral which grates on Fairchild's Lawful Evil something fierce. And before anyone says anything, good does not mean nice. We'll kill people who mess with shit we don't like such as green skulls firing at Athena and her papa.
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>>576676
Thats my plan, get rid of them, be an competitor, but not be state in the way that the population has any power over us... If possible, don't be even a nation, continue to be the Pirate Megacorp we kind of already are, so no one can come and "HUURRR DURR DEMOCRACY" our stuff.

About imigration, borders, and economic politics... Let's get the details of our government first, worry about alliances and rights after we have an clear plan of propaganda and justification of our claims.
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>>576745
Probably. We've got our share of RPers and Minmaxers after all.

If you havnt, I'd recommend Crusader Quest which just recently ended on /tg/. Its a good read and has, at some points, 3 siblings running plots at cross purpose to each other. So you have /tg/ fouling plots started by /tg/ when they played a different character.
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>>576752
I feel like were somewhere between Chaotic Good and Chaotic Evil
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so what character uses old sea chanteys as their soundtrack? I think the Old stone soldiers commander is the type.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CuyLbC2TZo
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>>576772
What? No way are we evil. Aside from being a pirate who has for the most part being rading wealthy or military targets, we have balked or despised just about every evil action thrown our way. Neutral maybe, but not evil.
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>>576772
Well at least according to tvtropes Roarke counts as a type of Chaotic Neutral with Chaotic Good tendencies
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>>576755
Brosef who said anything about democracy? and who said anything about being a nation??, the plan was to Take any colonies that wanted out of the USDF under our wing, and any that could not do it themselves by force, and then after that, Take the rest.
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>>576778
I don't think we've met any pirate piraty enough to do that. I could see Flint doing protest songs, Harlock probably listens to the sounds of the ocean or Whales

>>576795
My bad I meant Chaotic Neutral
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>>576710

I got a fiver that says she's mutating into a beast form in there as we speak.
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>>576755
Bro also a population has no real control over a dictator ship, and so long as we don't do something incredibly stupid, Like "the nerve stapur Express" they should not do anything too stupid
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>>576802
kill it with fucking fire.
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>>576801
Most of these songs are old fishermens songs. most of the chanteys that were actually used were only on merchant vessels, and had a similar beat as "The eliza Lee" The song not the ship
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>>576802
>open cockpit
>cleric beast
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>>576823
Ya they are old fishermen songs but even in modern times their viewed as pirate songs and their probably viewed the same this far in the future. I do hope we get a captain thats just the stereotypical pirate; Robot parrot, peg leg, hook hand, the works
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>>576810
Anon Bro, if i'm not wrong, Thunder was going for Monarchy(which is being a nation), and someone started ranting about "protecting workers rights"(???), and them people started to talk about blitzkriging planets...

If fear we are becoming some type of militarist leviathan that is going to mutate into Space Prussia as soon that "Emperor Roh Ark" dies.
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>>576824
Well thats a downgrade of threat.

Anywho, a thought occured to me, while there are the Paladins, I have to wonder if there are semi paladins. Aces who are close but one way or another aren't Paladins and have their unique machines. Because I can see the Green Lady getting antsy if things go down and starts to bring out less friendly champions.
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>>576802
Betting ten that she is already in beast form.
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>>576844
Squires, Questing Knights.
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>>576844
What are the chances there's a Gehrman floating around out there?
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>>576834
sorry about that, I get a bit irked when people call chanteys pirate songs, My great grandfather was babysitting me once, And i still remember he took me to the bar his chantey group performed at made me a bit obsessed with Old songs like that, so i try to change that misconception whenever i can. Also +1 to stereotypical pirate captain
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>>576843
Thunder was going for some weird slave holding thing. I was going for being an elective constitutional monarchy with strong worker protections because Rorarke hates mega corps shitting on workers. You'd have the King, Pirate lords and a house of commons who ran the civil side of things. When a king dies, the Pirates elect a new Pirate King from their own number who runs the foreign policy and military. Its better than a cult of personality that would collapse as soon as we die.
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>>576843
Absolute monarchy with kingsmoot as succession was what I was thinking, with the belt splint into 8 parts and a captain in charge of each with Us/Rosita at the capital

>>576855
Its fine thankful we haven't talked about something I'm autistic about yet

>>576857
The slave thing was to solve the man power issue were going to be facing, and thralls are different then slaves
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>>576852
eh, maria said she was the oldest... and gehrman was missing a foot and visibly aged, he don't really fit the avalonians tendency to fix any physical issues with their people.

though... I could see him as a remnant from the last war that haunts avalonian space burning the twisted beasts as he finds them.
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>>576860
indentured servants is what your looking for maybe.
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>>576843
Monarchy? I thought the pirate king of the belt was a pretty good title. and it is not being a nation, to be a nation it is a form of government. you must have self government, your own minted currency, and a set of laws. to be a nation
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>>576860
>The slave thing was to solve the man power issue were going to be facing, and thralls are different then slaves
Which still hasn't been confirmed and would have all sorts of terrible consequences.
>>576843
Also, one of the reasons I wanted a constitutional Monarchy, is that its more acceptable than a straight up dictatorship to the Jovians and the rest of the Solars, and the Avalonians will like the monarchy part. Which positions us nicely to broker a peace once a pair of genocidal manipulative bitches die,
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>>576866
Do we really need all that? What about we just use bitcoin or something? What are they gonna do about us?Purge us from Space UN?
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>>576874
Fiat currencies are useful things for a nation to have. Full libertarian is just as stupid as full commie.
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>>576801
Given you suggested that it makes sense if Roarke immediatly turns the belt into a slave state when given the chance I'd say evil fits fine.
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>>576861
Theres also a space traitor working for them, my money is on it being Flyodd Beck

>>576863
Thats not it either, to explain it if you get captured (after the crews get a pick of the prisoners if the captain feels they earned it) you get put to work for the state in the mines/forges, or farms. You are given adequate housing and fed and are allowed to have children. After a set amount of time (at most 20 years) you are given citizenship and are given the option to keep working, join a crew, or leave.

>>576871
Its an issue were going to face, people in the colonies will go against joining us and through those fights we lose men and weaken ourselves. And we also have to find men to work these factories and grow the food to feed our men. And its better for us to let the Avalonians and Sol fight and keep either busy while we make our power play
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When you step into the mess hall, a tidal wave of cheering hits your eardrums. People are standing up, pounding on the tables, yelling YOUR name. You halt in your tracks, and briefly consider just retreating. You can always get food in town. The number of people present clues you in to the fact that you've slept well through breakfast and into lunchtime.

"Yo, Corporal!" You spot Asphodel waving to you from one of the tables, along with the rest of the pilots who went on the mission with you last night. It's a sobering thought that the Cicero is down to eighteen, and that this table represents half your mecha resources.

"You didn't have to bring your own dessert, Amos, the commissary's pie is pretty good." Garret smirks, sipping his tea.

"Hers is better." You can't fucking stop yourself from saying it, and even though it earns you a light whack on the shoulder from Irina she's blushing and smiling while your friends laugh and make room for her. You notice that Simon and Sergeant Nedermeyer are sitting next to each other, but not looking at each other except when they think nobody else is watching.

Irina excuses herself to get your food, making a threatening remark about including a salad with your plate as she goes, and Asphodel leans in close across the table, "Congrats, Corporal. It's a guarantee we're all getting promoted for this. The first Paladin down, and at the hands of a Pumpkinseed II. I only wish I could have seen her face the moment she realized she'd lost." He grins, then adds, "You know, you three aren't what I expected?"

"What did you expect, Brian?" Garret inquires, raising an eyebrow.

The Lieutenant shrugs, "A useless Daddy's Boy and his two parade-ground bodyguards who'd sit well at the back and take credit for everything the real soldiers did." He shakes his head, "I also figured you'd pilot giant hangar queens that sang S-Pop and emitted sparkles whenever they moved, lecture us about compassion towards our enemies, and use up most of the resources the regular soldiers need on your shenanigans." He takes a sip of his drink.

"We're getting ace mecha." Garret informs him, "And you're giving me ideas for mine already. I already know what I want mine to look like." He pulls a piece of paper out of his pocket, and spreads it out on the table.

[Continued]
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>>576860
The numbers arent big enough to cause problems in space armies. A wels has room for like 650 people and that is a giant fuck you battle ship. How many could they possibly have lying around?
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>>576874
I thought you did not want to be a nation?
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>>576882
Except that suggestion was pushed against wildly by everyone else. What one person thinks does not make for the entire group and it goes against defined actions and reactions we have done.
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>>576861
She said she was the oldest Paladin. Gehrman would probably not be a Paladin.
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>>576871
Jovians are ruled by corps.
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>>576887
Your underestimating how many people live in Sol, they own planets and all the colonies surrounding them thats probably hundreds of millions of civies, and you can bet if a hostile force appears in their backyard and takes their major trade root their gonna start up a draft
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>>576889
See, the problem with not being a nation, is that when a non nation tries to hold territory against a nation, said non nation gets its ass kicked. Nations are kinda required for raising armies.
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>>576884
That's a slave. Especially since as you mentioned before we can then sell them off.

Your plan will last 6 hours and end in a double suicide like the last dictatorial person Clemmy worked under.
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>>576886
>You notice that Simon and Sergeant Nedermeyer are sitting next to each other, but not looking at each other except when they think nobody else is watching.

heeee.

When did this happen. Almost sorry we didn't join the other pilots for celebrations.
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>>576904
It more of a serf then a slave anon, and by selling them I meant ransoming them back like we do
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>>576903
I am very aware of that, I just wanted to know why he was suddenly so interested in the laws to being a nation after wanting to be a corp..
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>>576886

>The Lieutenant shrugs, "A useless Daddy's Boy and his two parade-ground bodyguards who'd sit well at the back and take credit for everything the real soldiers did." He shakes his head, "I also figured you'd pilot giant hangar queens that sang S-Pop and emitted sparkles whenever they moved, lecture us about compassion towards our enemies, and use up most of the resources the regular soldiers need on your shenanigans." He takes a sip of his drink.
Someone met jesus.
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>>576896
Yeah, as great as the Paladins are, they seem really specialized. Big shiny symbols of what Avalon can do for you and are crazy loyal. I can see some shadows hiding in the wings doing the darker work when needed away from the eyes of the paladins. Not as strong, but with a wider range of uses, such as using stolen jovian mechs to cause trouble.
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>>576860
>>576866
>>576876
Hmmm... I think the absolute monarchy thing could make sense IC with Roark, with a King and 7 seven Dukes(Or an Grand-Prince and seven Princes, or...ah, you know the drill), yeah, i'm down for it, but i still think that everyone from democratic planets is going to use "PROTECT DEMOCRACY" to attack us, and maybe even terrorist groups will do the same, and at that time, in what side do you think people would stand?With us?Why?

And seriously, even if we create a new coin, why would the more informed people of the far future stop using the e-coins or something for something we just made up to manipulate as we pleased?
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>>576909
serfdom really only works and applies on people who are living within that area for protection.

If we're taking captives from ships we pirate, they would be defined as slaves under those conditions.
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>>576901
Let them. A hundred million guys isnt shit unless they have a hundred million giant robots and spaceships to shove guys into and they do not.

Our own defense force on this planet is what? 18 mechs? 20 something? Thats for the entire planet. I think you are over estimating what they can bring to the fight.
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>>576899
I think they just have influence like in American elections, but worse. Votes are still counted
>>576901
THEY ARE CURRENTLY AT WAR WITH A MULTISTELLER ENEMY. They can't afford to divert everything to stop us, especially since Fatimia is scheming with her dad's old war buddy, AKA the dictator of mars. So getting Mars onboard might be a bit difficult.
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>>576893
Yeah but that one person also was the one guessing the alignment, so i say the zinger fit.
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>>576922
>And seriously, even if we create a new coin, why would the more informed people of the far future stop using the e-coins or something for something we just made up to manipulate as we pleased?
Because bitcoin is going nowhere so they'd be using other fiat currency.
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So for an ace mecha i can see amos getting pretty much what he has now, But bigger, and more overdesigned. and of coarse another Pin-Up Laser Embossed in our cockpit to match our gun.
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>>576920
Actually if they are just Avalon ROOT they may be even more powerful.
The green men mechs dripped with atrocities and war crimes the Goddess is allegedly above. If she actually wasn't and no one was supposed to know these shadows existed then why not make the shadow a little darker.
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It's an extremely crude drawing of a mech with hugely broad shoulders, spiny armor, and a head recessed entirely into the chest even more than his current Warmouth Custom. Beams and bullets are shooting out of it in all directions from over a dozen built-in cannons, and it's holding an electric guitar while posing atop a hill of broken Knights. There are trees with faces like in the Space Avengers movie on fire in the background, along with a Jovian Golden Eagle saluting with its wing while shedding a patriotic tear and holding a guitar of its own in its talons. In other words, it's one hundred per cent typical for one of Garret's doodles, "So, heart-shaped sparkles, right?"

Irina walks back over with two trays, and glances at it, "Oho, what's this?" She smiles semi-indulgently, putting your food down in front of you.

The Captain must have decided it was a day to celebrate, too, because that's a t-bone steak on your place, and a big one at that. There's also a side-dish of salad, but you're alright with that, you've spent enough time on a farm or in a vegetable garden growing up to enjoy a bit of green food.

"Oh, hey." Garret comments, "We were just talking about the SOUL machines you're going to build. Here's mine. Pretty sweet, right? Yeah, could you build that for me? The eagle is a drone and its guitar is a plasma axe."

"Hm." Irina says to herself, putting down her plate. She picks up the drawing, casually crumples it up, carries it over to the nearest waste disposal unit, and discards it for incineration.

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>>576939
Amos finally gets his ace mech.
It's just a pumpkinseed 2 but it has a fishing pole.
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>>576932
Doesnt everyone just use generic credits anyway? Even the space frenchies use them.
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>>576924
Yes and this is a backwater in the solar system as far as we know this planet isn't important in the grand scheme of things, but remember they have much more manpower and resources then we do. We might have an upper hand now but that is liable to quickly change
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>>576922
see that could be accomplished by coding a new cyber currency backed by whatever precious commodity we so choose, I am a fan of platinum or pallidium
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>>576952
I assume that we aren't bothering with details. Most likely, its all local derivatives of old Confed money,
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>>576948
Is Garret 12?
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>>576960
And if we seize the banks and switch the currencies being used we can dissuade people from leaving or corps from getting in
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>>576901
You know your forgetting something.
IF we have to resort to creating a slave dependent economy thats lower then either Fairchild or the Goddess have currently gotten yet and is surely a act that will completely alienate EVERY one of our wives (Clemmy and Susan in particulaar) we could also... not do that.

I mean, fuck the nation, its obviously more trouble then its worth, just get more ships and maybe buy a colony that works like the auditorium does. Which is a perfectly stable and functional place with, oh look, no slaves.
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>>576939
TWO Rapidfire Plasma Rifles, with additional Jets and Armor.
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>>576973
No hes a true patriot with great taste in mecha design
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>>576957
What about mars then? One of the most important and richest planets around and it had a few dozen cruisers protecting it.
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>>576929

Would I be wrong in saying that the crux of this dispute is the degree of rights workers have?

I mean, I'm not reading all of it at the moment, but it seems like it started off as Ironborn (with some traditions removed) versus "Fuck Megacorps, worker's rights".

I'd like to point out that deciding to remove Bahamutcorp and Bucephalus Heavy Industries from the Belt entirely would be a challenging task as there's no Jovian law preventing them from owning mining companies and they have both mining colonies and mecha development facilities at several locations. It would also definitely constitute preying on the supply lines of the UJCIDF during a time of war, with the consequences that entails.
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Also, back in an hour, I need to eat too and writing about steak on an empty stomach makes it hard to write about things other than steak.
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>>576993
From what I understand its thunder going "we need slaves" and everyone else going "no thats an awful idea".
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>>576993
Actually, it started with "German style mandated unions" vs "Slave/thrall economy" with a third faction just being in favor of throwing them out entirely.
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>>576993
Not from the belt entirely at least not at first. Just from the parts we control. Also We could just take over the mines and keep selling to the UJCIDF for half the price.
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>>577003
Actually it started when i first suggested the idea of declaring the belt independant in thread whateverthefuck and Throwing the corps out as well for an in character action
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>>576993
The crux of the argument is if Workers HAVE rights, IE can we kidnap a ship and force them to do 20 years hard labor in a mining colony.

I say you can't.
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>>577012
I doubt they're running that high a profit margin. Much better to require them to allow unions, since that's much harder to drum up opposition to.
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>>577032
God no, honestly it would be more lucrative to just instantly ransom them off.
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>>576998
Okay Chie, go eat your steak Naoto is best girl

>>577002
Hey its an idea for a problem were most likely going to face simply due to logic. If anons have a better idea for finding more people to join us while being able to feed and arm them all then I'm fine with it
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>>576993
wasn't expecting it to be possible to throw out corps entirely. We could likely pressure them or buy colonies, but for the moment they will be a thing. Though, I am surprised we haven't seen any of the big Executives of the megacorps, like the president or CEO.
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>>577045
Ask Rosita, she pulled it off.
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>>577045
Oh, hey, Fatima has all of thosecolonies. Recruit from there.
>>577031
in this thread at least it started here >>575215
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>>577012
Quite troublesome to throw them out.

Especially since they have mech production facilities.

We might as well negotiate with them for payment of taxes or protection fees so that they can continue their work while we profit from the payments.
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>>577045
Pay them well and treat them like human beings? like the corps don't seem to do, By admitting fault when accidents happen. And improving working conditions to the point of it being as safe as can be without productivity being too affected. Generally just being a better employer
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>>577003
In fact, i was kind of advocating for the "Ancap Megacorp" because it is pratically an nation, but less obliviously about it, using private propriety to justify doing anything in our territory that could be considered "Consensual" and having a better diplomatic face with the "I will not attack you if you don't try it first"... But i realize that's impossible for Roark because we wouldn't give up about the PIRATING thing.

Still think that democracy will be an thorn though.
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>>577061
One colony is a flee to Sol, a take over of the belt is a beast of a different color.

>>577062
Personally I doubt we're getting the colonies that would be a majorly dumb move on Sol's part. I'm expecting money in exchange
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>>577032

Ah, thank you, that illuminated the issue for me. You're misunderstanding it, though. Logically, you CAN do exactly that. You have the power to do it. The question is, will you? Is that what Roarke would do? That's a question every future Admiral/Pirate King/Son of Waifu will have to ask themselves, depending on how formal you are about becoming a nation versus a pirate band. You could always write some kind of laws, and hope your successor follows them.

For all we know, it ends with a lethal martial arts duel between two of your kids, fighting over this very same question.
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>>577068
I imagine we will soon have our own mech production facilities.
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>>577045
How many guys do you even need to space mine anyway? Most of it is probably done with fucking robots. You think we need press gangs of dudes in space suits with pick axes? You have a totally wacky sense of scale going on.

Mecha armies arent big. The attack on odessa was one of the biggest fights in gundam and there was 130 mechs used by both sides. The populations arent big any more because of all the genocide that the greenmen hit humanity with.
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>>577082
It's evil and Clemmy kinda killed the last guy who tried it. So...
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>>577082
Thats why we make an in family rule of a Starwind may never harm another Starwind and drill it into our kid's heads especially Dio
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>>577099
Thats never going to work.
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>>577099
Thats how you get Proxy wars Thunderbird. No one likes Proxy wars.
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>>577099
Oh... It's King David and his harem all over again.
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>>577099

So you're saying that a future Starwind descendant, could wreak all kinds of havoc and his or her siblings could do nothing to stop it?
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>>577082
So, Wong, who do you think would win in a duel for the Pirate Throne? Dio Brando or Kamille?
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>>577116
I don't know man I'm not law student
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>>577116
Well yeah they can, they ignore the rule.
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>>577116
I'd recommend ignoring everything Thunderbird says on this subject. Nobody agrees with him.
The two main point of contention are: How much should we bully the Megacorps, and how much of a nation should we be?
I'm in favor of forming a nation because I think long term military power requires it. Otherwise, we'll eventually be broken up by the Sol system. Of course, my long term goal is to divide the human race between Avalon (sans greenmen), Solar League, and Non aligned nations, led by us. We play the two others against each other for long term stability.
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>>577156
>ignoring everything Thunderbird says
Well fuck you too anon, I'm allowed to have an opinion same as you. If people don't like it fine but I'm allowed to defend my positions same as you
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>>577127
Then why are you suggesting these things? These are the sort of actions that have caused some of the bloodiest rebellions, coups, and wars and your only response is think of something better for a situation we are not in yet without knowing what we have. Wait until it happens BEFORE spouting these sort of plans.
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>>577156
Avalon Sans greenman is going to end up "New Solar" you realize this right? Fairwinds not high on "Autonomy" and with their leader dead and their entire culture seemingly based on this its not like they are going to end in a draw.
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>>577198
Oh, I want Fairchild dead too. And I didn't say it was a particularly likely outcome although, I could see it happening if the territories that the Solar League has conquered goes up in flames after the Lady dies.
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>>577185
Because I felt like they might be good ideas that could stop some problems were most likely going to face. Yes I might be wrong sure but that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to bring my ideas to the table and explain why I feel the way I do. If my ideas don't win then fine tough luck I'll deal with it
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>>577156

I don't ignore either side, although having a clearer idea of what you both mean and how the rest of the Anons feel about it is helpful to me. I'm trying to avoid inserting my own opinions, except where realism is concerned, as much as possible. Remember, we're all friends here, you and Thunderbird are members of the same crew and should work it out like bros. After all, it's an unfriendly galaxy out there for a fledgling nation or ancap megacorp or pirate crew of any creed or stripe. You need hot blood and the strength of your friends to survive.
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>>577156

Wong did previously mention that we'd have to take territory. So probably nearby colonies that the Sol forces cant afford to maintain a large military presence and that we need to make the colonies think of themselves as a pirate town rather than force our troops to be occupational forces.

What this means is we need a great load of PR/propaganda work on them. Get a good number of the residents in there supporting the pirates. I'm unsure as to the legal status of the UNJCIDF charter as to who owns colonies and membership status. Perhaps Wong can clarify?

What this means is we could get our own people in there to get the colonies to sue for independence or to join another faction, basically the pirates. This would be a bloodless coup/transfer of power and be the most ideal but would likely take some time. Sol forces also might not be inclined to just up and leave due to the precedent they'd be creating.

Whats more likely to happen is that we'll be riding in to conquer a colony which would be more than happy to accept us as their new overlords. Repeated a couple of times, we should have a good swath of territory from which to draw support. We can also consider commissioning a new colony and advertise for colonist who wish to escape mars or Jupiter.

With regards to Megacorps, we can claim that their asteroid facilities are now on sovereign territory and subject to our laws but that we would however not be adverse to them continuing operations if they would pay taxes and provide services to our fledgling nation. We have to abit careful as to how we much we push the corps as this will directly affect the UNJICDF war potential and just driving them off will likely provoke an adverse reaction we don't want.
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>>577208
I'm kinda hoping Fairchild will kill herself after enough bullying
Hell Ive been working on a speech to do just that all week
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>>577226
But Wong, is any blood truly hotter than the blood of two fags arguing over stupid bullshit on the internet?
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>>577227
>What this means is we could get our own people in there to get the colonies to sue for independence or to join another faction, basically the pirates. This would be a bloodless coup/transfer of power and be the most ideal but would likely take some time
One of the reasons why I keep suggesting that we focus on Fatima's colony's first.
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>>577156
First: Define your definition of nation.
Mine is:
>>Group of persons who has the same ethnicity, culture or system of belief.
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>>577227
That makes sense. There are likely abandoned factories and mining colonies so its not like it will be hard to repurpous them. If people want to escape the war to farm or what have you, they may come to us. We don't need to be massively PR based, we just need to be the best option out of several.
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>>577236

That's a good point actually, now that I think about it. Carry on, gentlemen.
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>>577211
I feel before we go to "will the idea work" we need to figure "will this idea fit with Roarke as we know him". And given how hes been very big on treating prisoners nicely the idea of thralls would come kinda left field with him.

I suggest we start as a mercenary group, hire ourselves to the war front, make a solid name for ourselves, people go to the belt simply because its a smaller space and our millitary is strong enough that we can crack down on any serious internal threat that a overstretched jcdf can't.

Using our war funds and renown we then proceed to leave the boring shit to our wives, have fatima and susan figure out laws and shit while clemmy runs the police force and Rosita deals with trade and Karen starts her own small mech corp to arm our forces and we just take a nap.

This is a pirate quest not a civ quest, Roarkes got enough people better qualified to lead.

I wouldn't mind it if it was a civ, but Roarke isn't necessarily well equipped to handle such a situation.
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>>577236
Yes, Roarke's when someone steals and mindbreaks his waifu.
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>>577246
Webster's New Encyclopedic Dictionary defines nation as "a community of people composed of one or more nationalities with its own territory and government"
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>>577246
>1) a defined territory; 2) a permanent population; 3) a government and 4) a capacity to enter into relations with other states. 5) Not subject to another nation
Once we own a place, with people in it, run it, and deal with other nations we are a nation. Hell, with our negotiations with Avalon and Sol, and our waifu's control of her colony, we now technically qualify.
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>>577253
>Using our war funds and renown we then proceed to leave the boring shit to our wives, have fatima and susan figure out laws and shit while clemmy runs the police force and Rosita deals with trade and Karen starts her own small mech corp to arm our forces and we just take a nap.
Best idea ive seen. Roarke tends not to use him brain too much though he is changing, hes still abit unsuited for all the braining.

The harem was good for roarke as a pirate but for a civ as pirate king, its just a headache for the potential succession problems.
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>>577253
I don't really want this to turn into a civ either and i don't really think it will turn into one past, stealing shit and the occaisonal reference
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>>577270
Regardless of what happens the succession will be an issue wither it be a nation or a pirate band
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>>577270
Haven't I just pointed out that our wives make the perfect advisory council? This civ is going to work soley BECAUSE we hitched with so many babes.
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>>577272
I'm into playing Civ in this universe, no problem.
But what makes this quest shine is indeed the "hands on" approach to problems.
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>>577253

So essentially Roarke acts like a king and delegates that shit.

I can live with that.

We still need to have final say of course, but this way allows people more qualified than we are to come up with ideas.
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>>577253
Being a mercenary group would be a bad idea, Fairchild will send us where ever she wants which will probably constantly be suicide missions, and I doubt we even want to lower ourselves to working for her. And we already have a solid name were one of the most popular pilots in the solar system
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>AND ONE MORE ASCENDS TO NAMEFAGGING!
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>>577294
Thats never a good thing though
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>>577283
How well the waifus work together will be a seperate issue as compared to how the children they spawn react to the succession.

Theres always a chance of greed and ambition coming to the forefront and one of Roarke's spawn deciding he/she should lead instead and lead a rebellion to take control of the pirate kingdom.
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>>577299
So The Death of Arthur pretty much
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>>577299
nothing you can about that really.
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>>577304
Hey, Lancelot is mostly to blame for that shit.
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>>577294
I figured people already knew who I was because I was already a tripfag as long as I was on qst
so I stopped caring.
>>577297
Hi pot, im kettle zaku.
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>>577331
I've said before why I still do it
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>>577327
I'm a bit more willing to put blame on Guinevere than Lancelot, though he's not blameless either.
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>>577337
Don't mean you arent still doiing it.

Besides id rather be known as buttguy then "oh look its p/xw6bxb" as long as your on qst you HAVE a name its just a dumb one.
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>>577299

That's going to be a problem right enough.

Anybody got any ideas on how to prevent it?

The only way I can think of is to have the throne be claimed by merit instead of blood.

That way a Roarkespawn might not even be the next king, but they still have a chance to claim the throne if they're worthy of it.

The question is, how do we choose the worthiness of a king?
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>>577345
I don't know man I think their pretty even, Lancelot seduced her and she went along with it
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Workin on that post wong?
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>>577350
condoms
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>>577253

This brings up one reason, incidentally, why despite the fact that their Master Harpies aren't all that strong Miles and Richard are still very relevant. A lot of the boring civilian stuff like paperwork and dealing with low-level Kestrels who get in trouble doesn't intrude on Roarke's life because they're the ones doing it. Delegation is a key component of successful organized crime, it's beneath you to have to decide some of the more minor legal points. For example, unless told otherwise, if someone leaves the Kestrels they leave any mech made in the Rhinehawk's bay. They make exceptions for Kestrels who are leaving for a decently sympathetic reason, in part because they're still used to having one small ship and cheap Harpies to deal with. You can obviously permit or veto this as you choose, and because of your new, larger army and more expensive mecha concerns have risen over whether, say, Miles outranks a Captain, and if so, does she outrank all of them or just the new ones? Where I would advise Roarke to interfere is in the actual rank of his wives, because some of them take less stock in the whole "pirate" thing than others. For instance, in an emergency situation where you're not around, who would be in command if Oda, Red Siren, and Samantha disagreed on a course of action?
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>>577350
Just give it to the first one thats born.
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>>577363
Oda clearly. Admiral outranks whatever sam used to be and red made it clear she wasnt really part of the organization structure.
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>>577381
Captain not admiral whoops.
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>>577363
I'd assume that whoever we give command of the Avalonian battleship automatically becomes our second in command unless otherwise specified
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>>577350
fuck it, if they want to fight over daddy's chair let them go at it.
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>>577364
That leads to assassinations and plots, granted they all do but that one mostly. Tanistry might be a good option
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>>577381
^This basically, Oda is nakama and also the most likely to keep a calm head and pursue a rational solution.
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>>577265
Ancap Megacorp:
1)Yeah, my private proprietysomethingsomethin darkside.
2)Very much, if we rent subdivisions and provide shelter to workers.
3)The Corp Itself create the rules that govern itself.
4)Contracts works as normal, conflicts might arise from contracts breaks... but the same happens with normal states, and in this libertarian case, if we have transparency, it is easier to gain public opinion if someone tries to cross us with fake accusations.
5)Yeah... Ancap.

I think we could use this for PR, and still keep the cool factor by naming the company positions with nobility titles(Duke,Count,Baron...), while IC it could be Roarke response to setting things straight by recusing the faults of Avalon, Jupiter and mars governments and becoming the worse nightmare of the people who screwed up his family: An competition who doesn't need to lick government boots or almost slave people to get by.

But it would mean that Piracy would need to be justified in some reason, by going only after criminals(in the PNA sense), or in the name of selfdefense.... What i don't think that you agree on.

So, my second plan is Monarchy.
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>>577394
If our kids decide to start murdering each other then we did a bad job and deserve to have our faction fall apart.
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>>577404
Its not just our kids, but their kids, and their kids
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>>577412
Then they did a bad job and deserve to have their faction fall apart.
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>>577351
I was always under the impression it was more Guinevere that did the seducing, but I'll admit it's been quite a while since I've read anything regarding Arthur or the Round Table. Quick looks through google doesn't seem to indicate one side as the instigator in the situation though. They both fell for each other and acted out of passion. So yeah, equal blame to both.
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>>577420
Granted I'm a little fuzzy too, but I do remember Gwaine and the Green Knight
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>>577400
You are really into the idea of becoming a corp bro, Which i think roarke himself would generally be opposed to,
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>>577381

True, used to be. On the other hand, of all Roarke's non-pirate wives, she's the one who has taken to piracy the most, she's friends with Karen and Red Siren (and your assessment is correct, she would try to stay out of it and would likely do whatever she wanted to do regardless)

So it becomes a question of who is in charge out of Miles (and Richard by proxy), Oda, and the wives with Samantha likely having the most clout of the wives. What if, say, Clemmy, Samantha, and Fatima all disagree with Oda on a course of action?
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>>577420
That story has been rewritten so many times that there is no definitive version anyway
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>>577430

Name Oda Hand of the Pirate King.

He will be the executor of our will if we are unavailable and will wield our full authority and trust.
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>>577420

Lancelot was invented by a French author as a way to have a French knight fuck the wife of the most famous English king. He was written as literally being invincible because he was protected by God, making him the edgy Sonic the Hedgehog fan-character equivalent of medieval literature.
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>>577440
I'm fine with it, Oda's been in the game long enough to know what to do, and he hasn't let us down yet
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>>577425
Gawaine is quite possibly my favorite knight. Though I remember quite liking the story of Tristan and Iseult.

>>577436
Yeah, I was just looking to see if there was any sort of consensus among the versions, it happens with some parts, others not so much.
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>>577430
At that point what we say doesn't matter because our wives have proven to be the kind of people who would simply lock him in a closet, do what they wanted, and forget about him for a few days until a entirely different person found him.
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>>577430
Didn't the strawpoll end with Fatima winning pretty decisively? Though really, I'm just here for the interview reaction
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>>577430
Miles first because she is first mate, then Oda is since he has the most leadership experience and also joined before the others, then the waifus.
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>>577442
Yay but we got Galahad out of him and that makes everything worth it
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>>577428
Hahahaha yeah, not so much, but it seems like a cool idea... Would we get to design our own mechs?

But... Yeah brohaus, i do agree with you, he doesn't seem the type to do it.
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>>577440
FUCK NO, do you have any idea what would happen? the entire fleet would be covered in neon and praising Groious nippon within a week
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>>577450
>implying they wouldn't all job to Oda
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>>577470

yes and?

I find myself not as adverse to this as I might have thoughy.
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>>577466
Can't we do that already? we have a shitton of designs floating around, and 2 of the best mech designers to build them.
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>>577442
I knew that, but I never thought about it in those terms. My already iffy opinion on Lancelot may have just changed.

>>577460
I remember fuck all about Galahad, only a couple of the knights and their stories stick out in my mind a lot of those are vague recollections of reading them in the middle school library.
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>>577487
Galahad was Lancelot but better, he was super pious and was the one who found the grail and sat in the Siege Perilous
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>>577454

That's for who the head wife is. Effectively she's your second-in-command on the battlefield and in charge of mediating disputes between the other wives.
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>>577487
There was a book a girl did about Gawain the weirdo who got stronger with the sunrise and Lancelot was pretty good in that, he was the ace dude who was too good, he lost, vanished and 3 books later hes a hermit and he's like "Man I was a douche bag" and helped out the party.
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I love how a thread about space piracy has turned into a discussion of government, the trials and dangers of hereditary inheritance of a throne, the complex problems of establishing a chain of command and a dissertation on King Arthur characters in English literature.
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>>577525
I'm waiting for us to hit Greek Mythology, I could go on for hours about it
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>>577525
Because we're considering the long term viability of a space pirate kingdom.

My worst case scenarios have the spawn of the waifus eventually forming noble royal houses with bloodline directly leading from the 1st Space King competing for the throne.

I fear we may have planted the seeds for Space Pirate GoT.
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>>577517
Is the thread over wong?
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>>577546
But will there be cute waifus anon?
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>>577556
floating out the airlock, yes.
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>>577509
>>577541
Thanks, I've been meaning to pick up at least a copy of The Death of Arthur for awhile know but I think all this talk has kicked it up my list.

And there's probably a fair bit the quest could do with some discussion on Greek Mythology. Jovian's mainly worship the Roman pantheon and considering the Romans just tweaked the Greek Myths into their own theology.

>>577525
And for the sake of not fully derailing the discussion to King Arthur, it'd probably help to figure how the inheritance of the government would work. I don't claim to know anything about how historical naval chain of command would work, but if it was based off the idea that we are pirates I'd assume command would pass to either our First Mate or one of the captains serving under us.

If we did it feudal style would it pass to the wives in a queen protector kind of thing or just drop directly to our offspring. Also seeing how Roarke seems to be more about freedom and choice, would we even run a feudal system of government or would it be more democratic?
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>>577556
We'll be dealing with Athena and a guy who looks like Roarke with a stripper name.
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>>577558
I'd watch it.
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>>577558
It can't be all bad then
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>>577582
Well the most common feudal inheritence was Agnotic-Cognotic Primogency, which means first son inherits and if no sons are alive then it goes to the first daughter who usually has her husband take her name. The throne would pass to the heir and the mother would become the Dowager Queen and would most likely be regent.

And as far as the roman/greek myths thats why I was pushing for Bull of Io since were from Io and the story and name fit Roarke well
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"Terrible. Awful. Not even worthy of mention." She spits the words out calmly, dusting her hands off as though the design was somehow dirty and had clung to her, "People would laugh at you, and people who knew about design would laugh at ME when they saw it. You're easy, I'm going to give you as many guns and as much firepower as I can, armor you up, and make those Bucephalus throwbacks who worked on SOUL B cry. I don't understand your aesthetic, though, why didn't it have a head?" She takes a sip of her coffee, and makes a gesture rather like shooing a cat at Nedermeyer's squadmates, forcing them to move and make room for her to squeeze in next to you.

Garret shrugs, "The headless ones are the coolest, right? Like the Warmouth. I've been flying Warmouths since I was ten, my dad had one of the first ones in the War. A protruding head is just...it's not streamlined enough for me, you know?"

Irina rubs her temples, "You realize what you're doing to me, right? I can feel myself actually aging more quickly listening to you saying you prefer mechs with recessed heads when you're guaranteed to show up in PR videos for years."

"Amos, tell her headless mecha are better than ones with heads." Garret insists, pointing at her with his fork.

Irina raises her eyebrows, then looks directly at you, "Are you really going to tell me that, Amos? You've got better taste than that, right? Especially when it might get reflected in your mech." She pouts just a little, "I don't want to stifle my artistic spirit when I'm working on yours, most of all."

Their stares make it clear that you don't have time to ask further questions and try to hedge your way around this one.

>[Side with Irina]
>[Side with Garret]
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>>577541
Oooh! Oooh! Me too! Me too!
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>>577609
>[Run for it]
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>>577550

No, I just sort of got sucked into this conversation when I came back from dinner. We're still going, although I think we'll probably end a little early.
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>>577609
>Don't Side
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>>577609
>Ask Nedermyer and Shinji whats going on between them
Change the conversation
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>>577582
tribal Meritocratic Dictatorship.
Command falls to whoever the fuck we want it to fall to. The kids start at the bottom like everyone else, or we kick'em out the door and tell them to door and let them do what they want.
We started at the bottom and worked our way up, they can too. if Mother(s) dearest wants to chip in, thats on them.
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>>577616

Seconded.

You can't fault a Z'gok but you can't disappoint your lady either.

Take the third option and live to fight another day.
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>>577635
That'll basically quickly become a bad dictatorship very fast.
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>>577609
The head is a pretty convenient place to put sensors, and it adds a lot of style to the mech. It's also a pretty obvious weak spot to aim at though.
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>>577609
>>[Side with Irina]
But Garret has every right to follow his dreams and you should accommodate him as such
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>>577609
>[eat your steak]
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>>577660
I'll second this. Don't let either the waifu or best friend pull us away from the other. Just stuff our face.
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>>577609
>>577660
This.
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>>577653
If he doesnt have a head thats just room for more gun so...
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>>577609
I know when not to meddle in the affairs of Bros and Girlfriends. This will only end in tears and sadness and I wish to protect both their smiles. Just make a head thats a part of the machine and doesn't show it, like a pop up head.
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>>577616
>>577643
>>577660
>>577686

>Run and eat steak
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>>577660
I'll third this.
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Anons, how about a constitutional monarchy with a clear limits on the executive, judicial, and legislative branches?
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>>577721
Nah pirate crew need structure as soon as you have one captain trying to block your orders its all going to fall apart
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>>577732
Uhum, agreed.
Aaaaand we want to be at least a little despotic tyrant.
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>>577721

First off, you'll need to somehow convince the pirate lords how to relinquish their power and be beholding to rules and laws they they ran from and that might go abit badly.

We'd have to still offer them some influence and power for the drop is relative authority to be palatable.

One way I'm seeing this form is a loose union of colonies and outposts in the asteriod belt. Each with some autonomy but all Colony Masters and Militia (Pirate) Commanders will have to follow a basic set of common laws laid out in a Pirate Codex. As long as these basic laws are followed and basic rights of the people assured, other colonies will have a non-interference policy with the governing of each other.

There will also be state level organs which can operate between the the colonies and militia fleets and direction of the nation will be decided by a ruling council drawn from militia captains and colony masters.
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>>577732
which is why you kill the captains and absorb their crews.
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>>577791
Nah their useful, and were fucking one so
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>>577791
This is a HUGE no-no.
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You want to run away from this. Unfortunately, that isn't an option. You decide not to even take a side, "They're both fine." You insist, "I like the Warmouths, they've had an incredibly long lifespan." Although virtually every single one today is modded. "And I don't want to restrict your artistic spirit either. My mech has a helmet, after all." That nickname Dame Wayland gives you springs into your head again. Blue Knight. Although the Knight part sounds a bit too Avalonian, something about the nickname...you like a little.

Both Garret and Irina momentarily look pleased, but go to open their mouths again before you turn to Simon and Sergeant Nedermeyer, "So how are you two?"

Simon blushes, "Y-yeah we're fine." He hides his face in his coffee, taking a deep swig.

"Just super good. Simon walked me home last night." The Sergeant smiles. She has a nice smile, as fresh and pure as springtime.

You're happy for them both, "That's great, so-"

"We had cocoa because Simon said he didn't want to drink again for a while, and we watched Galaxy of Terror, and we talked about our families." She just keeps talking. "...I think we connected on a spiritual level or something, rookie really let it all out, so then we played Bluegill Joe for a while and went to bed together after he pinned me a few times." She says it completely innocently, batting her eyelashes.

"Catherine." Simon does not stutter at all, "That's lewd."

"You're lewd." She replies, tearing into her food like a wild animal.

Irina sighs, visibly bored, "Nobody cares about the feelings of Bucephalus pilots, you're all barbarians. If I wasn't feeling so gentle I'd chase you away from our SOUL pilots with a stun baton, but...it's normal after a battle, and I don't really have any room to talk. At any rate, Simon, your mech has already been designed and finalized. I...actually only played a minor role in its design. It was passed down to me from higher up before you arrived. Construction will begin soon, at least this city has the proper facilities to work on a project of this scale."

Simon frowns, "What do you mean, you didn't design it? Aren't they supposed to be customized? You mean it was planned before you even met us? What, am I that useless, they're just shoving a prebuilt concept mech on me?" Normally, you'd be a bit annoyed at him for being rude, but he's actually standing up for himself, which is rare.

Irina's response, though, isn't what you expected, "Like I said, it came from higher up. More likely, it's quite the opposite, someone took note of you during your time at the Academy and on board the Cincinnatus. I am not allowed to tell you more than that, especially in front of so many people. Not that I would be able to tell you even if we were the only people here. It's got to do with company secrets, proprietary weapons technology and such."

[Continued]
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>>577770
Elector Counts. The Captains can choose the next Pirate King of the Belt, with a simple majority if it was a descendent of Roarke, or 75% of the votes if otherwise, counting spouses.

The Captains get full reign to their territory except on three matters, freedom of speech, rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and the right to bear arms, albeit the need to show proficiency in order to bear arms.
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>>577818
>Simon frowns, "What do you mean, you didn't design it? Aren't they supposed to be customized? You mean it was planned before you even met us? What, am I that useless, they're just shoving a prebuilt concept mech on me?" Normally, you'd be a bit annoyed at him for being rude, but he's actually standing up for himself, which is rare.
>Irina's response, though, isn't what you expected, "Like I said, it came from higher up. More likely, it's quite the opposite, someone took note of you during your time at the Academy and on board the Cincinnatus. I am not allowed to tell you more than that, especially in front of so many people. Not that I would be able to tell you even if we were the only people here. It's got to do with company secrets, proprietary weapons technology and such."

Oh no.

Oh no oh no oh no.
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>>577833
I'm against familial lines on secession part, but the rest could work.
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>>577868

Welp, we all know what time it is...
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>>577868
OH YES
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>>577818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyIpijrLlcM is the only response I can think of.
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>>577901
This is all I can think about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJoPoZBbujw
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>>577868
>Meanwhile, at Bahamutcorp
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>>577892
thunderbird you bearer of bad ideas you~

that damn pic hah.
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You stuff your face with steak. Nobody can make you talk if you're eating. It's delicious, medium rare, cooked just the way you like. Qu'lir has a lot of cows, and beef is a big planetary industry from what you remember of Simon nerding out and actually reading the mission briefing during your arrival on this world. You eat your vegetables, too, particularly the carrots. They're good for your eyes, after all.

"You were fine with talking about my mech." Garret huffs, still miffed over Irina's dismissal of his design.

She rolls her eyes, "I don't think Bucephalus spies would gain anything useful at all from knowing that I'm going to put a lot of guns on a mech, they've been doing that themselves for decades. It's Amos' I've been having trouble with. He's a good shot with a rifle, and he uses his beam saber a lot, but now he's gone and done something that will make him famous with a missile shot." She puffs up with pride, "Would you believe some of my colleagues doubted me when I said we should add two onboard high-power missiles? 'It's unnecessary and a liability' they said. They doubted me. I knew, though, I always knew that having an option to express particular hatred for an enemy was the way to do things. A fuck-you-in-particular button, and by Minerva did my Pumpkinseed II fuck that Paladin in particular. At any rate, Amos, I want to know your thoughts on how you want your mech to be designed, and what you want it to do." She smiles warmly, reaching for your hand and squeezing it.

>[Inspire Irina, give her ideas and talk about what you want her to focus on.]
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>>577915
>Roarke's face when he finds out about another custom pure brawl mech
We should take Shinji under our wing
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>>577901

This is way too good for 4Kids.
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>>577938
"Guns."

"Yes but I mean what types do you want?"

"Yes."
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>>577833
So...they get to choose three form that four?
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>>577938
all I can think of is a name:
Pumpkin King custom.
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>>577966
Hehehehe This.
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>>577938
Honestly, why can't we have stronger versions of what we already have? Stronger beam sabre, stronger beam rifle, maybe even stronger fuck you missiles. I don't think it should be THAT hard, right?
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>>577938
>Guns, swords, and missiles
Amos is a great all arounder be a shame to waste those stats
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Oh, can anyone think of something that takes advantage of amo's crazy intimidation ability? He's been really good at it so, some how utilizing it in the mech would be awesome.
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>>578030
His intimidation is that he one shotted a paladin
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>>578034
I meant something built into the mech, his reputation while fearsome probably won't be getting us free turns like the kaisers face does. so something like that but what?
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>>577940
pick related

>>577938
I dont know, better handling? larger carrying capacity? knee missiles to fuck their sister after fucking them in particular?
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>>578049
Maybe he can get a power up for sleeping with Irina, speaking of which Wong how are you handling Fatima's upgrade?
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>>577938
Could call it the Jack after the Jack o lantern. Make a upscale Pumpkinseed that shows it pushed as far as it can go. More missiles, more stabby, better shields, like the Gyan Krieger.
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>>577990

You certainly can. You might want some gimmick, though, something that sets you apart even if your weapons are standard.

Consider the existing SOUL mecha:

S-Betta: Best stealth of any mech seen so far, fire-linked shock melee weapons
S-Swordtail: One of the first Active Shields, plus fire-linked plasma axes and Burst missile storm capability
S-Puffer: A strong Reactive Shield and fire-linked scaled-up versions of the Amos rifle
S-Swordfish: AVE CAESAR! Active shield, ranged melee weapon, huge Quick AP 13K drill lance
S-Slinger: 10km range, 12K beam attacks that you've seen so far.
S-Flowerhorn: Highly experimental dual fire-linked beam sabers whose A-Particle sheath can be manipulated to form shields, additional foot beam sabers
S-Slayer: Dual shields that also function as beam axes, a tremendous storm of weak missiles, a big heavy missile, the weird cockpit.
Tarrasque: Is the Big Zam
Zulfiqar: Triple-mode plasma projectors that can shift from beam sabers to beam shields to a beam spray cannon.
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>>578137
>Tarrasque: Is the Big Zam
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>>578137

Gimmick is best all rounder.
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>>577938
>All around mech, with less penalty to rolls.
What's about Stern's approach, doesn't amos strenght lies on his capability of using the best of his Jack-Of-All-Trades skills?
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>>578137
huh, don't see jamming in that list... something that fucks up other mechs sensors might be cool.
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>>578137
You want a gimmick Wong, I'll give you a gimmick all around better Pumpkin seed with Sword, Gun, Missles, and the first Reflex Controls
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>>578137
>gimmmick: nuclear misiles.
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>>578137
Why not a 'Jack of All Trades'? Able to switch built in weaponry on the fly and shoring up weak spots in a group. Could also give it some more 12 kill +2 WA missiles and general accuracy helpers? What I'm getting at is, Gyan with Booster packs.
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"I just want to be better at everything." You say after a moment of thinking about it, "I like my mech, and what it can do. I guess I want it to be bigger. With more gun. And more sword. Oh! And more missiles, yeah!"

She sighs and claps her hands over her eyes, "No wonder you two are friends. This thing is going to be heavy."

"Oh, and I want it to handle really, really well. I don't like losing mobility." You add.

She rubs her temples with her thumbs, then looks up at you with a smile, "You know what? I'll make it happen. You made my design a success, so I'll improve on everything."

[Continued]
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>>578222
Now building: Pumpkinseed Mark 3
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>>578222
Fuck yeah Krieger! Who needs a Gelgoog when you have this?
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Due to headache and general tiredness, we'll be ending the formal portion of the session here, to resume Wednesday, but feel free to keep discussing.

Things that are definitely on the agenda: Two linked repeating beam rifles, a better shield, a more damaging beam lance, a bigger shield to go with the larger frame and heavier armor, more missiles, and more mobility.
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>>578284
Whats the average life span of humans in this setting? And wasn't Roarke's birthday a while ago?
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>>578284
So utterly ordinary for an ace mech.

Irina might have just designed the next generation frontline mech for sol forces.
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>>578296
Sort of fitting for Amos. He's the Mook King. Promoted from red to Mauve and kicking the teeth out of anyone who says he's expendable. Just wait, final climatic battle will end with Amos shooting a missile at the final boss and getting a cockpit hit.
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>>578293

Yes, the main pastebin needs updating. The average human lives to at least a century before dying of old age, and there are rumors on the holonet that the Terrans don't age, period.
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>>578284
Thanks for Running Wong, it has been an honor!
Until Wednesday!
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>>578284
is that two guns in one hand, or a gun in each hand? maybe both?
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Since we're bringing Clemmy with us to Master Asia's I can't wait to see how she reacts to our breaking the boulder
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>>578386
>First: sploosh
>Second: I WANNA DO THAT
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>>577818
Guys~!
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>>578864
Blue Knight
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>>578868
This...Kind of looks like an Gyan...Or a Zaku!
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So... Did we got to a consensus on the Monarchy thing?
(When is this thread getting archived?)
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>>578921
Berserga from VOTOMS (Side story novel/game)

Monsieur Wong, you know that we really need Cirico in this Quest
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>>578929
Its over the bumpslimit, but qst is pretty slow, it'll be a long time before it gets close to death pages.

And /then/ a week long autoarchive from which suptg can pull stuff out with no issue.
So, archive is coming whenever, there's loads of time.
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>>578929
Still it will get archived way to fast
liek 3 times the archive speed

Stuff from Vifam or Layzner would be nice too
Especially Layzner that have: Tazer Knuckle Dusters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfmlarkNrFM
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>>578950

Layzner is indeed a good call.
So...Opinions on the Monarchy? Hereditary Monarchy or Elective Monarchy? Are each waifu bloodline becoming a House?Is social mobility to nobility allowed out of marriages?Do only the Dukes may be King or any noble is a possible candidate to the Throne?
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Clemmy's daughter?
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>>577833
You'd also need a commerce clause to prevent bullshit trade wars (See: US articles of Confederation). And probably limits on worker rights to avoid megacorp bullshit.
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>>579018
If she ends up being Clemmy's daughter and Dio ends up her son i will be incredibly upset of there isn't weird predatory sexualy tension coming from both sides
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>>579020
Hmmm... I Think that limiting the diversity of working relations will not help on the long run, and will incentive some people to work out of the grid, not being recognized by law as workers and such...

The problem with the megacorporations of jupiter is that the state protects them from what they promised to their workers, to not end like this we just have to not side with them in judiciary matters, do not oblidge them to promise something, but fall upon them with veangence if they try to not deliver what they did promise... Do not let them do that "Not our problem" thing they did with Roarke's family again.

In the rest..."TRUST IN THE FREE MARKET!"XD
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>>579026
Hmmm...? Were you saying anything?
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>>578966
Anyone has any opinion in this?
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>>579324
I think we need a philisophical message to rally supporters more then the sheer force of our personality. Workers rights seems like a good issue to pick a stand over.
Furthermore, an economy requires certain government enforced ground rules to function regarding things like property laws, fraud, ecological regulations, ect. Since to have a functioning society we need to have rules governing organizations of Capital (aka corporations), we also need to have rules governing the organization of labor (aka Unions). I'm operating under the assumption that Jupiter has laws similar to USA "right to work" states, that make it theoretically possible to form a union, but as a practical matter impossible. I'd argue that Rorake would be more in favor of the German model, which strongly is tilted towards labor, but either way, the Government is setting up the conditions by which labor can organize, and there is no "perfect default" except in a libertarian fantasy land almost as silly as the communist version.
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>>578950

I got it already, no worries.
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>>579465
Do you know when Wedge and Co will see Rorake's interview? I'm worried that the longer its delayed the less of an impact it will have.
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>>579471
I'm wondering when their going to see Roarke's paladin fight
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>>579415
I agree in needing a philosophical message, but we already explored that with all the freedom speech that we insinuated in the interview and openly talked about when Fairchild explained her motivations of ruling everybody... I don't see Roarke as the type to care so much to the point of wanting to live in an rules-heavy society in the name of something, we are pirates after all.
I do agree in laws, and imposing those effectively, and... even as a kind of libertarian, i don't exacly believe in an "Perfect Default", and because of my own experiences i think that we should let people try different methods for themselves and not exaust our resources in trying to control that too much.
TL;DR: Agree on some rules, but only the basics, not much.(Don't try to regulate the curvature of bananas, please)

I Think we should focus on "freedom", and possibility of being indepedent by allying with us, or even offer the chance to grow working with us and creating your own faction to be allied with us, based in the "our faction will be the third alternative that will unite the smaller factions who want independence" argument that was said again and again by other anons.

Hm... in fact, maybe an "YOU can become like roarke too! And have your own kingdom by conquest and allying with us!" argument could really work too.
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>>579465
Having fun listening to our opinions on system's domination and the inner workings of a monarchy?

We could go on in Greek Myths too, just wait for Thunder XD
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>>579415
Another thing, we shoul make an megacorp too, to have some chance of competing with the Jupiter's mecha production and to make our own army when we are completely consolidated... But... Will it be an statal company? Or an Starwind's House Megacorp?
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>>579607
It won't be a megacorp if the production is handled by the governement which is better for us since it keeps everything in house
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>>579565
>i think that we should let people try different methods for themselves and not exaust our resources in trying to control that too much.
The problem with that is game theory. Say, that you live in a recently passed "right to work" state that made union organizing more difficult and enabled free riders. You make 4 spacebucks per hour but have to spend one of those spacebucks to support the union. Your coworker Joe has a similar arrangement. If you decide to quit the union, you no longer have to pay the union dues, and Joe has to pick up your tab. If Joe quits the union and you stay on, he gets four Spacebucks, while you take home one Spacebuck. If you both quit, the union dies, and you end up with two spacebucks.
Stay Quit
Stay 3,3 1,4
Quit 4,1 2,2

Since quitting is always the better option for you personally, eventually the union will fall apart, and your Boss will laugh at you while pocketing his obscene bonus. Therefor, you need government regulations to prevent free riders, just like you need government rules to stop some asshole from dumping all of his pollution in the river and ruining everything for everyone because doing so is better for him personally. Welcome to the "Common Good" problem.

So the best option is usually to make it really easy for labor to organize, really hard for Capital to stop labor from doing so, then letting them fight it out rather then messing around with stuff like Government mandated minimum wages.

>>579621
Not a huge fan of government run entities. I may be pro labor, but that doesn't make me a socialist.
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>>579621
Hmm? Only if we are and hereditary monarchy, but most of us are leaning to the "Pirate Council" option... So by making it an megacorp we would keep it in family hands even if Oda ends up in the throne or something.
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>>579668
In house is an English idiom which means "done or existing within an organization" in this case the Government.
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>>579664
Also, fuck 4chan for messing up that formatting
. Stay Quit
Stay 3,3 1,4
Quit 4,1 2,2
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>>579664
I'm not an economist or an administration genius, but lets say you ends up with 2 spacebucks to make X product or service that you work to produce, chances still are that the competition will use the same costs margin to offer cheaper versions or more wellmade ones to steal your company clients, what in the end would end up with an devaluation of the product that would be better for the consumers in the end game, no? If this is appliable to everything in an unprotected economy, it doesn't matter if you gain 2 Starbucks now that everything is cheaper '-'.
By this logic, protecting some sector only makes sense if the economy at large is being protected in an more or less degree everywhere.
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>>579769
>I'm not an economist or an administration genius, but lets say you ends up with 2 spacebucks to make X product or service that you work to produce, chances still are that the competition will use the same costs margin to offer cheaper versions or more wellmade ones to steal your company clients, what in the end would end up with an devaluation of the product that would be better for the consumers in the end game, no? If this is appliable to everything in an unprotected economy, it doesn't matter if you gain 2 Starbucks now that everything is cheaper '-'.
In theory yes. However, in theory all companies are supposed to end up making zero profit all the time. What actually ends up usually happening is that the reduced costs go mostly to the investors, and the little guy ends up worse off. The US has experimented with this and it hasn't been great for the little guy. Of course, plenty of other country's have done much stupider experiments, like Venezuela.
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>>579802
Zero profit?No, it will variate depending of various factors, but i get what you are trying to say.
>What actually ends up usually happening is that the reduced costs go mostly to the investors, and the little guy ends up worse off.
Hmm... How so?Could you elaborate on this?
>Of course, plenty of other country's have done much stupider experiments, like Venezuela.
Oh, i agree on that.
This make me remember about the Taxis x Uber that has going on here for some time now, the dispute is something like this:
Brazil's transport system is corrupt monopoly of the government at its best, the Bus companies need an special government permission to be allowed to work, and has their own prices controlled by same government, but in the end, they keep growing more and more expensive year after year, and offer poor sevices because they know they WILL get away with anything because of no real competition making people dependent on them. Ilegal transports are kind of comum depending on where you live, but are actively persecuted by the state, because they go against their pact with the "transport sector nobility". Then, the only official alternatives are taxis, that are too expensive for a great part of the population and have several limitations to be able to work, what doesn't impossibilitate them to became small mafias sometimes.
So, uber came to brazil, and because of the way they work, they make possible to a much more ample parcel of the population to find a job has a motorist, and do a much better work at keeping tabs at their operatives than the taxis companies, and because the uber's service are cheaper in general... People tend to flock to them, what makes the taxists angry and claiming that uber should be made ilegal for "Exploring the workforce unfairly" and "Weakning our economy by avoiding the taxes we pay for our licenses"...
Because of all that, i got a tendency of viewing "protecting workers rights" as "Creating difficulties to sell privileges".
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>>579664
>Government mandated minimum wages.
Did you know that the original minimum wages proposal was created by eugenicists as a way of "purifying the genetic pool"? XD
https://fee.org/articles/the-eugenics-plot-of-the-minimum-wage/
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>>579925
>Zero profit?No, it will variate depending of various factors, but i get what you are trying to say.
No, you don't in theoretical market economics, companies are supposed to make zero profits. This doesn't actually happen in the real world for a lot of reasons, but I'm going to skip the lecture in the interests of our mutual sanity.

>Hmm... How so? Could you elaborate on this?
Here's a good article on it: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/19/opinion/nicholas-kristof-the-cost-of-a-decline-in-unions.html
but the TL:DR is over the past 40 years unions in America have cratered due both to ecconomics and some nasty laws designed to gut them, and executives went from making 20x their average worker, to 300x, while their worker has seen much lower gains. The average American worker is making the same amount that he was making in 2000, which is one of the reasons why some idiots are actually thinking of voting for Trump. The other main reason being how fucked up our media has gotten.
>Taxi stuff.
Yeah, government mandated occupational licensing is frequently bullshit and abused. Give Labor a monoploy on power, and everything is stupid expensive and nobody can afford anything. Give Capital a monopoly on power and nobody's paid anything, so they can't afford anything. Gotta have a balance.

The difference between our positions is largely driven by you coming from a country who's government has a lot of problems, while I'm fortunate to come from one of the best run countries in the world, where we have a weird fetish for how terribly the most powerful nation in the world's government works.
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>>580014
Huh, that was a surprisingly construtive conversation for an discussion about theoretical economics on a 4chan Quest... My sincere thanks.
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Am i the only one to imagine our monarchy aesthetics more Imperial than Medieval?

>>580014
Well, about decision making, i think that we should try to go with the more functional policies we can imagine, but focusing more about what Roarke would want than what would be "Min-Maxed Perfect".

And in the end, i still think that we will play a continuation as ours sons and daughters(or maybe just one of them) confronting the problems that will come with all the power... And probably get stomped by democracy in the course of it.
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>>580049
>Huh, that was a surprisingly construtive conversation for an discussion about theoretical economics on a 4chan Quest... My sincere thanks.
You're welcome. Another way to look at it is that mainstream economists have made a list of things that are really bad ideas that will blow up an economy, slapped it on their door, and spent the rest of their time arguing about things with less clear answers.

Every once and a while, somebody looks at that list, decides its a Yankee Imperialist/Capitalist plot and tries one or more of them. Then they blow up their economy like Venezuela, which tried almost all of them. Even added one or two more to the list.
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>>579664
I don't like socialism but when it comes to weapons your governement should be the ones making them, it'll stop what happened with the Jovians and Megacorps
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And now that everyone is gone, the elusive Wong answers important questions.

>>579574

Yes I am!

>>579471
>>579500

Wednesday, look forward to it!
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A few thoughts on the whole economic and legal system of the Belt, incidentally. It's up to the players to come up with that stuff, however personally I have a deep dislike of communism and its associated systems, and I particularly despise "cultural" socialists.

>>579802

Exporting all of our factories to China and Mexico hasn't helped, either. Now that we're not on /tg/ with a Berniebro mod hovering around I'm free to say that regardless of who I think is more abrasive in the 2016 presidential race Trump deserves praise for everything he's done to shame outsourcers already.

As for unions, all I can say is that while there are viable reasons for some to exist, the one time I was in a union I hated it and I hated that it was effectively a tax to elect politicians I hated. The unions that still exist and still hold power also tend to be incredibly corrupt and diminish their profession as a whole. For example, the teacher's union in the USA is notorious for ruining the integrity of our college-level educators and generally inspiring ones on the lower level to be lazy shits.

Incidentally...

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The difference between our positions is largely driven by you coming from a country who's government has a lot of problems, while I'm fortunate to come from one of the best run countries in the world, where we have a weird fetish for how terribly the most powerful nation in the world's government works.

German or Canadian? Because either way I would personally say that your government is effective at surviving and terrible at ruling, while ours has at least some of its flaws counterbalanced by the fact that our Founding Fathers outright believed that you can't trust the government and should keep a rifle in every home to overthrow them if the need arises.
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>>580680
It will certainly take some steam from them since Roarke managed to do it first. Not a lot though, since he praised the designs and showed interest in the Manta and Pumpkinseed 2s. If the footage is shown, it will play to Roarke's advantage as 'What did I say? I told you it was good.'
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>>580759

And to think there was once an Anon that doubted me when I said Roarke having the Mecha Tech skill at a professional level was useful.
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>>580756
USA actually.
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>>580777
Yeah, I can see Irina showing several colorful faces during the announcements if her sister is who we think it is. Meantime, I'm working on a Oda style dygengar called the Susano'o. Damned if the malliable weapon energy pools get expensive if I want the thing to attack at a larger range. As for range, two cyclone crasher beam weapons in each shoulder.
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>>580783
>>580756
>counterbalanced by the fact that our Founding Fathers outright believed that you can't trust the government and should keep a rifle in every home to overthrow them if the need arises.
Also, this is revisionist nonsense supported by no reputable constitutional scholar. The second amendment was in no way a tact support of armed revolution.
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>>580824

Is that what those well-paid and publicized men and women with "reputable" opinions are saying? I'm sure that serves no agenda whatsoever and is purely coincidence.
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>>580917
You know, if that was an actual Jefferson quote you might have a point. Its a bastardization of an Ayn Rand quote.
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>>580800

You know about the Susano'o in Gundam 00, right?

Also, you're not kidding, the weapons systems on the Berenger alone cost more than most grunt mecha do (2x Interservo Linked 6K counting the +2K from Light Heavy arms weapons with a 400m range that hit everything within a 180-degree arc, plus its primary melee weapon).
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>>580936

What about this one? He was a prolific writer and I can understand if he got Mark Twained and misquoted often, but he was clearly a man who had a boner from shooting tyrants.
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>>580958
That one seems legitimate, though I'd have to do more research. Although to be fair, Jefferson has said a lot of things, many of them contradictory. I'm honestly not sure why some people even bother to make shit up about him. Its not like you need to.
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>>580946
Yup. I was looking at making a single sword and use on of the heavier ones. If I want a Light Heavy to weild it two handed, the thing costs 105 for the sword. Mind you I can give it a shock blade with some nice range, a high accuracy mode, and something I call the Evil Cleaver which will have 3 range, AP, and as much Kills I can put on it.
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>>580946
>2x Interservo Linked 6K counting the +2K from Light Heavy arms weapons with a 400m range that hit everything within a 180-degree arc, plus its primary melee weapon
How does it get the +2 melee combat damage bonus from its Arms servos on what is presumably a ranged Beam weapon?

On an unrelated note, does it take an action to deploy and/or retrieve stowable RCS drones, or can it be done for free?
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>>581334
Maliable metal weapon pools can be anything but missiles so it's possible to do Melee weapons. Plus, for each 3 cp you put in, the range increases by one. If you want a 6k shock weapon, thats about 8 Cp. for a 20 energy pool, it would have a range of 4. To go further and hit everything starts to make it at the higher end ones, possibly the ones that cost 60 cp as a base. Its hella expensive.
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>>581430
I had assumed that hitting everything in a 400m 180-degree arc meant that it was a wide-angle beam weapon. Melee weapons would presumably not be so specific, though you're right that a 4+2 Kill with range extended from 0 to 8 would fit into a 30 power energy pool.

It really wouldn't the most efficient way of going about things, though.
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>>581512
Not really, but the means to increase range for melee weapons is pretty hard. Throwing and returning relies on size, entanglement eats up kills, and both have nasty multiplers if you try and add more to them. If you want a smaller weapon with a more specialized use but still melee, then energy pools like what we are talking about are the only way. Helps that if it's only one thing the price drops dramatically to 0.6.
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>>581555
Depending on the answer to my earlier question, cheap, short range drones may be an alternative.

It's also worth noting that EMWs by default can gain neither Returning nor Entangle, making them ill-suited for ranged use without a fair amount of resources spent on workarounds.
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>>581334

The drones are like the Kaiser's Magnetic Grappling Harpoon, fluff.

>>581612

The Advanced Technical Manual talks about this, and encourages a bit of houseruling and using "counts as X weapon type despite being built with Y rules" to make weird stuff.
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>>581898
I understand that the ATM suggests refluffing, but (rule 0 aside) surely building a weapon which is X fluffwise using Y rules wouldn't allow you to apply mechanics unique to X on it - because then it wouldn't be built with Y rules, in that case?
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>>581898
Hey Wong is efficient transformation something we can do yet or is it too OP?
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>>580680
So, Wong, what about all the descendance talk? Are we going to play as one of Roarke's sons and daughters if/when he retire?
And, do you think we are going to reach the point of playing the sucession of the Throne after a time jump to Roarke's death in the future? Is he even going to die? Why he wouldn't use Greenman Tech to become immortal?



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