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Welcome back, everybody, to the fifty-ninth installment of Mecha Space Pirate Quest! As always, I'm Wong, your host, and you are Corporal Amos Adventure Wedge of the UJCIDF SOUL C Squad, who recently became the first member of the Solar System League forces to bring down a Paladin.

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Last time, you scored a one in a million shot with one of your emergency heavy missiles and managed to bullseye the Paladin Berenger's powerplant, spent a night and a morning with Irina, then ate steak. All in all, exactly the right way to start your day.
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Rolled 2 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

Time to bully the Avalonians
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Irina sighs happily to herself, “Yes, I definitely feel like I could accomplish twelve impossible things before breakfast right now. I'll just start formulating designs. It's about time we reminded people that an ace doesn't need to be a specialist.” She actually hugs herself, “I can't believe this is real. Finally, I'll show my mother that I'm the successful one in the family, my design is unquestionably the first to ever destroy a Paladin. So what if it was luck? We did it! We proved we can beat them! The Pumpkinseed II is going to be as famous at the Bluegill, and I'm going to end up on the Board of Directors with a sumptuous Europan estate and a pool to lounge scenically by. And the best part is that, for once in my life no one can take that away from me. No one. Not my damned sister, not Roarke Starwind, not any of my petty, short-sighted co-workers who would rather play politics than put in work with an autowrench. ”

“I think I deserve just a little credit.” You cut in, “It wasn't all luck.”

She smiles brilliantly at you, “You've won more than a little credit

“So, did you hear about the Butcher? Garret was just telling us the interesting news.” Lieutenant Asphodel cuts in.

She shakes her head, “I don't really follow the Bucephalus pilots, and she's an all-Ionian psychopath whose mech is entirely too reliant on Terran technology for my liking. I heard she was taken captive and dropped out, or something. All I know for sure is that the S-Flowerhorn is lost and someone very unlucky in the Solar System is having to design a replacement on short notice and praying they have another ace lying around. It serves the brass right.”

[Continued]
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>>608239
Dice say 'No Bully'.

Anywho, made it and finally finished up the Masakado(former name was the Susano'o). Getting this thing to 350 was a hell and a half.
http://pastebin.com/C9XDAj2Q
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Rolled 8 + 8 (1d10 + 8)

>>608247
I forgot to put on my Amos music and use his dice, lets try that again
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>>608224
Time to remark on the brave forensic analysis of the USCJ and their ability to determine the difference between accidental crossfire of several cruisers and deliberate destruction by a battleship... eventually
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>>608245
>tfw someone goes on a huge tirade and spouts a conspiracy about Roarke being SOUL Z and that he is a deepcover agent acting as a pirate whilst "kidnapping" other SOUL pilots and mecha even though all of them are joining him without a fight because they are the double-secret fighting force for beating any enemies of the UJCIDF

>tfw the simple answer of the D is slapping them in the face
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>>608245
>my design is unquestionably the first to ever destroy a Paladin.

Oh boy, is the current date of this side story before or after Roarke's dual with Lori? Because I know we're probably going to see Amos' perspective during the interview in this thread.
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>>608263
We started before Mars so by now we must be right around that time since they were just talking about Roarke videos and no one mentioned the Paladin
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>>608224
Must sleep so I can go to college in the morning, gonna read shit later. Keep up the good work Wong.
>>608258
>mfw another greenman sympathizer crawls out of the woodwork
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Garret shakes his head, “What's the point of having an ear on your older brother and your father if everyone around you is deaf? The official story is that the Iron Kestrels decided to bust an affiliated scavvie ship out of Europan impound with the help of one of the SOUL mechanics. The techie died resisting arrest, the ship got away with SOUL B in pursuit. They made it to a dusty little hive called Griggspont in the Belt before SOUL B caught up, which is when Red Siren and Admiral Roarke Bloody Starwind himself showed up. Red Siren shot down the Butcher and Starwind took her prisoner. The other two members of SOUL B tried to interfere, but Starwind managed to disable Lieutenant McAllister's mech with the Black Ogre and got away. Later, Starwind released the Butcher to the commanding officer of the Jaburo as a sign of goodwill, and she resigned the military out of shame at her defeat.”

Irina huffs slightly, “Oh, she shot down a SOUL pilot, big deal. Great for her. I don't want to hear about either of those wretched celebrity pilots, but at least it was B with their Thoroughbred-MP frames and not A with the Basses. So that's the official bullshit, what did your important relatives tell you that's actually true?”

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Word is that a new gunbuster is in production.
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>>608284
I heard I'm not sure how to feel, I haven't even seen Diebuster yet
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>>608287

I just feel this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEEPosF-tNU
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>>608290
Excited Jung Freud is too cute
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>>608275
>Little bird says that the Iron Kestrels are actually a black ops to oppose Fairchild's sudden rise. Not SOUL, but its rival.
>Which explains the Thoroughbred-MP frame Starwind has and the Terran tech they have
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>>608263
Should be after we beat the pally if our interview is soon. Probably a few days late to being first and chances are data will take a while for the news to head to Jupiter. Still, while it's not a glowing achievement, it should be more than enough to get praise since it's the first Jovian and SOUL fallen paladin. A young face with a new machine and similarities to bluegill joe will help and the praise may help even more if this was the result.
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>>608304

Footage should have been put out already by navigator.

Sort of curious as to why they've not seen it yet.
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>>608301
>I heard that Roarke is actually the son of Flyyod Becker and that the Kaiser is actually Becker's Thoroughbred supped up
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>>608311
Data lag is a very real possibility considering how far away everything is. In a place thats close to the galactic boonies, the data may not have arrived just yet with groups or the like having better access to communications thus allowing them to beat the curve. That or they haven't looked due to the last while being a terror mission.
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>>608332
Did we ever find out roughly how far away we are from Sol?
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>>608332

Ah thats true.

Hoping for good reactions when they see the interview in full.
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Garret grins, twirling a lock of his purple hair...that particular color isn't uncommon, it's a way to be both youthfully rebellious and patriotic at the same time, and Captain Clearwater apparently does the same...around his finger, “She went willingly. The Butcher was in on it, somehow, judging from persistent rumors from crewmates at her old posting on the Cincinnatus that she was having a love affair with Starwind. There may have been other prisoners released, but nobody knows a damned thing about it and that in and of itself is usual. No prisoners on any official UJCIDF rosters went missing, at least. There were early reports on JNN that the mechanic wasn't alone, though, but there was a mysterious shuttle accident and the only witnesses who seemed to recall anything happened to be on said shuttle at the time. Pure coincidence, seemingly.”

Irina furrows her brow, “Are you sure you should be talking about this? If the Kestrels are able to arrange to have people on Europa killed, you shouldn't be damaging morale by discussing it with us, tell your father to launch a full military strike on the Kestrels. Is the part about the affair true? I thought she was famous for hating pirates?”

Garret nods, “At the very least, she was a rabid Starwind fan. It's an ongoing problem in SOUL, a lot of our more experienced aces have either never seen real combat until recently or are just waiting to snap like poor Farragut. You're just lucky you got three badasses like us instead. Also, you're misreading me, I never said the Iron Kestrels arranged to have anybody killed. Frankly, I don't think they did. If it was them, the Black Ogre would have punched their shuttle to death and seduced three senior female officers in the process. There are a lot of conspiracy theories among certain powerful people, though. I've heard everything from 'Roarke Starwind did die and was replaced with a Paladin clone' to 'Roarke Starwind leads a secret SOUL unit commanded by the head of Internal Affairs'."

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>>608362
>If it was them, the Black Ogre would have punched their shuttle to death and seduced three senior female officers in the process.
Sound like something we would do
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He sips his tea with flawless table manners, “But you raised an interesting point about Terran technology. What do you think about all of this? Their insights into A-Particle manipulation have completely altered the face of the war, without it we would still be using nothing but evasive maneuvers to protect our ships, no A-Particle defensive screens, and our mecha would be using old-fashioned mass blades instead of plasma rapiers. Why are they giving us all of this? When was it developed? What more haven't they shared? If their technology is this advanced, why haven't they contributed troops to the SSL Joint Forces? I met a couple of Venusians on the troopship over here. Venusians. They're fighting.”

You chime in, remembering a doughy-faced boy with a thick accent you beat at cards several times in a row until he stopped talking to you, “There were Moonies there too. You'd hear them at prayers most nights.”

“That was them? Right, them too. Folks from Luna. My point is, if the Terrans want us to fight for them, why aren't they joining us?” Garret nods.

"This is really depressing. C'mon, we're all alive, can we talk more about the love triangle? I wanna hear about the Butcher. She's a real Palomino ace, I care even if you don't." Sergeant Nedermeyer pouts.

Irina's lips compress into a firm, hard line, “On behalf of Bahamut Corporation I am obligated to point out the substantial benefits to the war effort Terran technology has achieved. As you acknowledged, without them we would be significantly worse off, although I'd like to think that we've done most of the work ourselves. I'm not sure it's wise to look a gift horse in the mouth, especially in front of a bunch of loose-lipped pilots. Nedermeyer, you in particular.”

“Awww.” Nedermeyer pouts.

Irina shows her no sympathy, “Now that I've answered on behalf of my employer, personally I agree with you. Project Skywalker is no longer classified, obviously, since several of you have the fruits of it incorporated into your mecha, and it's clearly paid dividends, but...I've noticed that in the upper echelons of-”

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Good night guys! I'm very sleepy here today... But i just can't give up on being here with you at this game so easily...!

>>608373
Yeah... That absolutely sounds like us.
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What tech do you think the Terrans are hiding anons? I got a feeling they have Reflexive cockpits and higher performance thrusters
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>>608410
there's a lot of stuff that could be there. Gravatics, overcharged cores, BIO cores, Gamma class armor, megabeam weaponry to name a few. Hell, regenerative systems might be a thing as well.
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>>608410
Nineball and Iris
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>>608422
If any of those are true I hope we can capture one of their machines, Karen getting her hands on that tech would be very interesting
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>>608410
Because of the sleepness i'm having a hard time to think of many possibilities in this case... But i really think that they are at least immortal, and that their robots must be Super-Robot Tier.

But in more hardware aspects... it's possible that they have much more efficient propulsive systems and alternative energy sources...

Wow... Their tecnology may even look like some kind of Technomancy to us if they are advanced enough '-'
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>>608439
I think it's more a case of tech that was simply deemed 'unneeded' at the time when they were going the bio route with the Green men. Hell, I can see a lot of the tech being either reversed engineered from destroyed greenman tech, or made BY greenmen.
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>>608410
A green man.
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>>608448
>>608452
Hmmm... You may be right, Genetic Engineering has become taboo in the solar system... but Terra had become a mystery even before this... And if i am remembering right, was untouched by war...

The Terrans may be the most old and powerfull gene-engineered race of all the galaxy at this point.
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>>608373
Three? We're getting sloppy, Thunder.
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>>608480
We promised to slow down we are getting married soon
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Whatever she was about to say is cut off as Captain Clearwater enters the room, and ascends the steps leading up to a speaking dais at one end of the room. Mealtimes are always a good time for announcements, they guarantee a lot of people too full to escape from a long-winded speech. He smiles brightly, and activates the megaphone function on his PC, speaking into it and letting his words carry, “Hello. Hello, is everybody listening? Splendid! Just splendid!” Alongside him is an elderly Martian man in the stately robes of one of their officers, “Well, as I'm sure you've already heard, we struck a resounding blow to the Avalonian forces yesterday. Jolly good show, everyone! Now, this marks the first Paladin downed by the UJCIDF, and congratulations all around are in order, so I can understand some amount of merriment...but we've had some rather big news from the Solar System, and there's a speech that I'm required to make you watch.”

The Martian Captain is staring at Matthias Clearwater with a mixture of horror and bafflement at how lightly he's taking this, but he's a Martian and they take everything too seriously. Hakim's speeches might be words from the Prophet to them, but your own superiors aren't exactly sanctified and their verbiage tends towards dryness, so you appreciate the Captain being forthright.

“Now let's see, it's...oh, not that app...” Captain Clearwater frowns at his machine, “That's the starchart...and that's the haiku generator...Irina! Do the thing!”

“What thing?” She calls out, visibly irritated, “I don't know what you want me to do, this is the first I've heard of this.”


“Oh, right, you weren't at breakfast.” The Captain waggles his eyebrows, “We thought it would be wrong to get you out of bed for that meeting, I forgot you weren't there. We told General Oman you had a fever over the ansible, you're not in any trouble. Old Baldy wanted to extend his personal congratulations to you with his next communication, though. Uhm, right, what was it now? Oh yes, the speech. Could you help me with this? I can't find the file.” He shakes his PC as if expecting it to fall out.

“Did you try the Downloads folder?” Irina asks, looking more irritated at being dislodged from her spot.

“Ah, yes, how do I get to that again?” The Captain asks innocently.

[Continued]
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>>608486
Even in the vast futures, lusers will be lusers.
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>>608486
Is this person a parent? How is he this techtarded?
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>>608486
Even in the far future with giant robots and space travel, there are STILL people who can't find the damn download folder.
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>>608497
Oh, boy. Someone hasn't seen Eyeshield 21 yet.
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“Excuse me, Amos. I swear, you'd think they're recruiting cro-magnons to pilot these things.” She grumbles, standing up and marching in a whirl of affronted white labcoat to the front of the room, snatching the PC from Captain Clearwater's hand, and tapping the holographic display perhaps three or four times at most without even really looking at it, “Open File, Find Screen, Project...aaand there.” The PC synchs up with the screen behind the Captain, projecting a holographic image of a stern-faced woman with shoulder-length hair of vivid pink, seemingly in her early forties unless she's had some work done. She's sitting behind a shiny, marble-patterned desk. She makes no attempt to smile.

“Good evening, soldiers of the Solar System League Joint Forces Initiative. I am General Hermione Fairchild of the United Jovian Colonies Independent Defense Force, with the honor of being charged with defending Jovian interests within the Solar System. Yesterday, we suffered an attack the likes of which have not been seen since the War.” The pink-haired general nods to someone offscreen, and the screen splits, displaying footage of...a planetary gate. The massive satellite is badly damaged, the two massive projector arms large enough for several ships at a time to fly through cratered by plasma fire and missile shot. One of them is cracked entirely through midway along its length, held together only by a few cables thick enough for a mech to walk inside of. The satellite is surrounded by a halo of debris, floating Martian cruisers and mecha comprising a good portion of it. Just from the footage, you can pick out Knights, various Martian flyers, and UJCIDF Bluegills, Palominos, and Pumpkinseeds. There are a gratifyingly large number of Knights, but you don't see any downed Avalonian ships, “The forces of Avalon, not content with stirring up social unrest and rebellion on worlds the Solar System League has attempted to liberate, have launched an attack unprecedented in this war. Five Avalonian heavy warships, commanded by at least a trio of Avalonian Paladins, struck out of the darkness of space while local Martian patrol ships were en route to a minor bandit incursion outside of New Medina. Like any terrorist, they gave no heed to their own lives, and poured beam cannon fire onto the gate that supplies reinforcements and supplies for the relief of suffering planets to at least a dozen worlds. This is an act of palpable evil, aimed to hurt those who suffer most in times of hardship, the vulnerable natives of the SSL's client worlds and colonies. Although the gate was not destroyed, it will be some time before it is fully functional again. This cannot be excused, and so, in light of this flagrant attack on Mars, the Martian military, and Martian commerce, the Solar System League must with a heavy heart upgrade the status of the Avalonian threat from regional terrorists to an enemy nation."

[Continued]
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>>608519
Shino isn't techtarded he's techgerous.

He knows how to point a camera, it just will immediatly break.
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>>608539

Here we go. Time to see Irina throw an tantrum at her mech being upstaged.
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>>608551
Actually I'd say it hasn't.

Roarke took significant damage and beat in a prolong duel what a normal rookie did with a single missile.
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>>608560
Probably not on that but the recognition of first paladin taken down
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>>608560
Roarke wasn't that badly damaged, and there was the fact he solo'd a soul mech right before it who arguable was the closest someone has every come to killing Roarke
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>>608567
Arguably the closest has and always will be the fuckin First Mate.

No one else gets close to us litterally only surviving because coincidence.
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>>608560
Roarke went toe to toe with a paladin and tore it apart.

Amos got lucky and hit the powerplant.

>>608572
Actually it would be Rashad, who's self destruct was super effective. We only survived because of luck.
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>>608572
That was in a Harpy custom. And Harpies are literal deathtraps on wings.
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>>608586
No its still the first mate, because Rashad we BEAT, while the First Mate had us actually dying until pure plot gave us a working mech.

The chances of us getting out of a explosion are signigantly less then a fight having taken place at a stocked but abandoned test lab.
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“As of today, we are officially at war as a result of this unprovoked assault on the sovereignty of a League world.” The picture of the Gate of Mars vanishes, and is replaced by snippets from different planets showing the Avalonian Knights fighting Pumpkinseeds and Bluegills in space and across several planets and colonies, “The Avalonians possess sophisticated mecha capabilities, which is no surprise because...” She pauses for dramatic effect, “...they are the thralls of what is believed to be the last surviving Green Man.” She pauses again to let her audience react, then barrels onward, “This evil, that we had thought consigned to the dustheap of history, has reared its head again. Even to the last of their kind, they have chosen to exert every drop of their strength in a futile attempt to enslave humanity. Like many of you, I have seen loved ones destroyed by this conflict, and have vowed never to endure the taint of the Green Men upon the galaxy again.”

“Weren't we already at war?” Nedermeyer asks innocently.

The Lieutenant grunts the words “Police. Action.” While listening intently to the speech.

General Fairchild slams her fist down on her lectern, “We will not surrender! It has been nearly thirty years since an estimated two-thirds of humanity's galactic population was wiped out by the Great Sidereal War started by the Green Men! We, the Solar System League, refuse to dishonor the fallen by meekly handing over the worlds humanity has retaken to the slaves of a genetically engineered immortal monster! We will overcome! We will prevail! We must secure an existence in this galaxy for our children, and our children's children! Even as I speak, new and improved mecha are being created by the Martian Holy Militia, the UJCIDF, the Reformed Catholic Church, and independent mechbays across the Solar System. With every minute that passes, our armies swell, and the technology that goes into our forces increases.” There's a dramatic shot of a blue-painted Pumpkinseed II bearing down on one of the Knights, dodging a clumsy thrust from its lance and reducing its head to a fused lump of sparking circuitry with one professional slash of its cyan-tinted beam rapier. Hey, you know that guy!

“Look, that's me!” You point out with a grin.

“Wait until they see the new footage. I got a great angle on the shot.” Garret grins back, giving you a thumbs-up. Meanwhile, Irina hands the Captain back his PC and goes back to her seat, obviously intent on finishing her food and getting back to designing mecha.

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>>608586
It's going to be a case of Amuro and Char at the start of the 1 year war at this point. Char was already a ace with a great kill record and lots of experience, but Amuro shined through with a really damn good machine and kept getting thrown into combat with aces.

Hell, pretty sure he got a bunch of EXP beating a encounter he was in no shape ready for.
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>>608631

>Hell, pretty sure he got a bunch of EXP beating a encounter he was in no shape ready for.

That and the Brightslap.
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>>608640
The bright slap was more like a Class Change from 'whiny bitch' to 'Anime Hero' with all the perks that come with it.
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Unfortunately, the General isn't considerate enough to be finished talking, “Our righteousness is so plain that even hardened evildoers are taking up arms in humanity's defense. Look! Even one of their vaunted Paladin arch-aces cannot stand against the might of Jovian engineering!” The split screen plays an entirely different bit of footage, done in a much more professional and less barebones style of multi-ASP recording than the official broadcasts tend to use.

“Oh Minerva, no...” You hear Irina whisper as she spots the colony in the background, lit by neon representations of a woman with a heart-shaped eyepatch. Auditorium? Yeah, that has to be Auditorium. It's easy to recognize the neon dragons and white hawk-and-skull emblems on the ships surrounding what is clearly a barely-functional Avalonian cruiser, too. On top of it stands a blue and gold mech, incredibly ornate and clearly sculpted by the same sort of hand that crafted the Berenger even if its design is a little less whimsical. The independently-moving drills mounted behind its head remind you of hair.

What catches your attention, though, is the massive battleship with its oversized engines hovering like a black dragon between the Avalonians and the colony. You're sure you've never seen a model like that before, but it looks vaguely Martian. You're expecting something from it, but instead the shot shifts to its perspective, and zooms in on the opening bay catapult of a small, inconsequential freight transport. It fires a single mech into space.

Black armor, pitted and scarred. A chunky Y-shaped white sensor mask atop a rounded head. Two spiky, shoulder-mounted greatshields. Those huge, rending hands. You hear Simon gulp when he sees it, and to be honest, your mouth goes a little dry too. The Paladins are an almost incomprehensible horror with their strange weapons and pilots, the Black Ogre's brutal simplicity is the opposite.

“No!” Irina nearly jumps to her feet, only restrained by your hand on her arm.

[Continued]
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based on the time gap, i'm guessing they're about a light week out from sol.
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“It's damaged, look.” Simon notes, pointing. You nod, spotting the myriad of tiny cracks and scratches across its chest armor.

“There's a recent weld near the powerplant, too.” Irina notes, her voice taut with stress, “Minerva damn it, Minerva damn it all he's going to fight it solo.”

“You'd better be taking notes.” Lieutenant Asphodel remarks to his squadmates, “I want a PoA for fighting either of those mecha by tomorrow.” They both nod in response, watching intently.

Bohemian Rhapsody starts playing, you hum along. The Black Ogre makes a beeline towards the Paladin, which points back towards the ship imperiously. You can mentally fill in the blanks, imagining the Paladin telling the Solar peasant to go back to the fields or something. The Black Ogre clearly isn't having it, though, and the Paladin charges. Its pilot must be more aggressive than the Berenger's. It leaps and tries to kick at him, deftly avoiding the Ogre's grappling harpoon. Much to your surprise, it activates a Jovian-style double-ended beam saber and spins it in an arc that ends up slashing deeply into the Black Ogre's left arm.

“Yesss...” You hear Irina hiss, then she blushes when she catches your reproachful glare, “I'm not rooting for the enemy, Amos, just for you and me.”

[Continued]
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>>608660
>“You'd better be taking notes.” Lieutenant Asphodel remarks to his squadmates, “I want a PoA for fighting either of those mecha by tomorrow.” They both nod in response, watching intently.

Once Asph stopped being a dick to us he suprisingly Gets Shit Done
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God were such a badass to outside eyes. I wonder if this will have our rep hit 10
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>>608667
That tends to be the case with many people. We saw and dealt with the asshole side, but considering how many men he lost he is probably trying damn hard to not have them die.

>>608670
We are horrifying to many things from a outsider perspective. We hit constantly above our weight class, killing high end foes with rediculous tech, and have fought ACEs with only our fists. Jack of Trades can be pretty good, but in the end a straight up high Ace will trump them.
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>>608667

He was Always get shit done, it was Jesus's impression that he gave of the SOUL program that made him hate us.

From his point of view we were a bunch of no good poster-boys fucking around with a cushy gig and shore leave shenanigans.

To him we were worse than incompetent soldiers, we were incompetent soldiers he couldn't reprimand without jumping through a bunch of red tape and seemed to be sleeping with the scientists to get the best gear that could be better served with competent soldiers.

It was only when we showed we actually had balls and moral fucking fiber that he reconsidered his opinion of us.
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>>608695
Were pretty much space little mac at this point
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>>608708
Explains the various ethnic enemies we fought. Just got to watch out for space Mike Tyson.
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The Jovian mech's right arm hammers the Avalonian's shield, leaving clawlike gouges in it, before its damaged left arm seizes the Paladin's right shoulder, and digs its fingers in. You see armored plates crunch and deform, then it backhands the inside of the same arm's elbow so hard its knuckle spikes rip through the frame and leave it little more than a branch of twisted, twitching metal.

"No! NO!" Irina knocks her drink over as she slams her palms down on the table. Tea spills across the table and drips to the floor like her hopes and dreams.

The Paladin leaps back, its pose somehow exuding sassy indignation as it snaps the fingers of its remaining hand. The drills attached to its head, four of them anyway, detach and spin up, flying at the Black Ogre from a multitude of angles. The pirate mech does its best to avoid them, but can't stop a drill from carving up part of one leg or two more from gouging its shields as the two mecha dart around each other like mating fish. The Black Ogre crushes two of the drills in its fists, calling the fight Nedermeyer mentioned with the Harpies to mind unpleasantly...and the sensor mask abruptly flips up. For a moment, you see the most terrifying grin you've ever beheld, sculpted in metal, but only for a moment as the Ogre charges in and the Paladin moves with it, the combatants belly to belly for a brief moment. The Paladin deftly avoids the Black Ogre's blows, its remaining drills darting in for the kill and its beam saber poised to ventilate the Ogre's cockpit. Then suddenly...the black mech hits, and tears the Paladin's head clean off. It doesn't stop, and its motions...are eerie, more like the flailing of a crushed insect than any normal mech, pulling its weapon back in one final, desperate attempt to strike before the grappling harpoon pins its hand and the Black Ogre tears the Paladin's remaining arm off.
You hear Irina groan and drop her head into her palms, “Doctor Vodka, I'm going to need an urgent appointment.” She mutters to herself. She looks up, despair on her features, “Damn him, Amos, he beat us to it.”

“Using an ace mech.” You point out.

“Fighting solo.” She points out, “Don't get me wrong, you're still a hero, but that's going to be all over the holonet too. We have competition now.” She shakes her head, “Why can't I just win, for once? I was doing so well, and now it's all tumbling down...” Her shoulders slump in disappointment.

>[Say something to her]
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>>608728
Wait till she finds out we personally endorsed her design, that's a complicated emotion.
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>>608728
"We'd always have competition, nobody wins the war by themselves. Inevitably, someone else would have defeated a paladin. Can't we at least wait for his inevitable interview? Based on past experience, I expect there to be a few points of disagreement between and the general."
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>>608728
>It doesn't matter what anyone else tells you, I believe that you can do it Irina
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>>608728
>Hey, it's a cause for celebration. You've designed a Mass produced mech that can equal the Black Ogre.
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>>608728
"Dont see it as a loss. No one honestly expected us to do more then sell our lives with our paladin, yet we brought her down. With no losses to boot.

And honestly, which do you think JNN will focus more on? The coll pirate outlaw who outfought one or the homegrown everyday patriot pilot who did it?

If this wasnt a win, it was at least a draw."
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>>608728
I say this is a win. Even if he got it first, he's both a pirate and a ace. Hell, wasn't the whole fear about Paladins were the fact that they were undefeatable aces with crazy skills one way or another? Yet here we are, away from the action, using a mech YOU designed to one shot one of those aces. I'm no ace, I'm a average joe whos a bit more skilled than most. So that means you helped create a machine that can take down those Aces that can be piloted by the good people of Jove and get them back home alive.

Besides, Roarke wasn't alone. Sure he was the only machine, but he had an entire fleet pointing their guns at her, each ship full of pirate aces. If things went south, he could have likely just shot it down. Guy is know for his showman ship, right?
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>>608728
"Hey I'm just glad there are less paladins trying to kill us."
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>>608740
Backing
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"Hey, it's cause for celebration, you've designed a line mech at least twenty tons lighter that can equal the Black Ogre. Don't see it as a loss, yesterday this was a suicide mission but instead we all came back alive, unhurt, and without even scratching our paint. If this wasn't a win, it was at least a draw, and that's with the Black Ogre. Avalon has definitely lost no matter how you look at it." You put your arm around her in a hug.

She leans into it, still looking distraught, "That's not what everyone else is going to say, they're not...the rest of the galaxy isn't as nice to me as you are, Amos."

"It doesn't matter what anyone else tells you. I believe you can do it, Irina." You smile at her, and she tentatively smiles back.

One of Queen's most beloved songs fades out, and the General is talking once again, "The Paladins are considered the elite of Avalon's elite. Each of these twelve pilots is a zealot sworn to the personal service of the Green Man leading their nation, genetically altered and reshaped into a living weapon. Although Avalon, thankfully, lacks the resources to produce bio-weapons such as were seen during the War, the mecha piloted by the Paladins represent the pinnacle of their technology. Each Paladin views themselves as genetically superior, as a creature that stands above mankind as mankind stands above apes, taught that human lives are something to simply crush underfoot at their convenience. Yet, here we see the hollow nature of their arrogance! This one met Admiral Starwind, and tasted the peril against which the UJCIDF has been tested." She clears her throat, “...Although it would be a breach of normal regulations, the UJCIDF is pleased to report that we have opened up negotiations with Admiral Starwind to release the pilot of the enemy vessel into our custody. We remain confident that Admiral Starwind, despite his many flaws, is a solar patriot and will do the right thing by putting the pilot into our hands to face justice, so that they can no longer terrorize our worlds. Furthermore, we must credit the Iron Kestrels for rooting out the treachery of Commodore Rashad Abujamal, who abused his connections to sensitive information and leaked the location of the Suleiman 1 facility to the Green Skulls pirate fleet, likely as part of a bid to seize control over the asteroid belt. Our working hypothesis is that after the Green Skulls were driven away, he further soiled his rank and reputation by communicating with Avalon to erase the evidence of his misdeeds at Suleiman 1 by destroying the colony itself. Truly, the depravity of these inhuman servants of the Green Men is without bounds.” General Fairchild shakes her head with an air of frozen sorrow, "Rest assured, my office is doing everything in its power to ensure the safety and prosperity of the Solar System League. We will root out our enemies both foreign and domestic, and grind them beneath our heel." She smiles, and the footage ends.

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“Well now! That's good news, two Paladins down, and all thanks to Jovian engineering, eh?” The Captain remarks in a chipper tone of voice.

Irina sighs, “O-oh well, what we did was still very impressive. We were lucky, if we hadn't shot down a Paladin ourselves we probably would have been getting the stinkeye from the brass for being shown up by Roarke Starwind. We're still all getting promoted, but I'd have more clout at work if my design was the ONLY one that had defeated a Paladin.”

"We'd always have competition, nobody wins a war by themselves. Inevitably, someone would have defeated a Paladin. It being us and the unkillable pirate ace who wiped out an entire fleet is something I'm okay with." You squeeze her, and her gloom becomes a little less pronounced.

"You're a fine man, Amos Wedge." She comments, and kisses your cheek.

"He's better behind the controls of a mech." Asphodel remarks, throwing a bit of cold water on the emotional moment, "Do we really have to have this day off? I'm starting to itch with nothing to do."

You look down at your empty plate and shrug. A lazy day is fine with you, you're always fine with spending the day fishing. You're not sure if Irina would be up for that, though, and you're worried about her emotional state so you glance over at her.

"Ah, well. They should be almost finished scraping epoxy off the Paladin by now. Although I could use a little sunlight, I'm tempted to get a peek at the mystery woman for myself." The blonde technician remarks, doing her best to clean up the spilled tea with some napkins.

>[Advise going out on the town]
>[Advise checking on the Paladin]
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>>608814
>>[Advise checking on the Paladin]
This is gonna be good
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>>608814
>>[Advise checking on the Paladin]
"Can we get Rorake's video ready to great her. We can congratulate her on not being the first paladin to fall. The other one probably still looks better to her peers though, on account of not going down like a chump."
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>>608814
>>[Advise going out on the town]
The Paladin is going to be surrounded by men with guns we shouldn't have to worry about her until they put her in her cell near Four and they plan a break out
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>>608814
>>[Advise checking on the Paladin]

Wanna see our prisoners. And the face of Four when we drag in the paladin.
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>>608814
>[Advise checking on the Paladin]
We have questions that need answering. Specifically, who thought it would be a good idea to try and instigate a war by sending elite troops to a home planet after going 'stay in the solar sector and no harm will come to you'?
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Game continues in an hour so I can eat.
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>>608814
>Check the Paladin
Wanna see the Paladin in person, also we'll be close enough to our mechs when shit hit sideways
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Since we got some time what upgrades are you hoping for anons? Relfex cockpit, turbocharger, and switching our powerplant to Bioenergy so we can supercharge our mech when we get hotblooded
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>>608866
I want Verniers. I know it isn't cost effective at the Kaiser's CP cost, but I like the idea of the Kaiser being more responsive due to MOAR POWA much better than it being made lighter due to special materials.
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>>608866
For whom? Roarke or Amos?

If Roarke, space cloak. Like an upsized version of Shishou's cloth.
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>>608866
reactive shields. Add them with our standard shields and we'll have a wall of defense. Other than that? Gravatics for that sweet 33% boost to our maneuver pool and a general upsizing of our body. Get everything to light heavy.
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>>608870

That's actually part of how the Weight Efficiency for these bigger mechs is fluffed, at least in my game. It would be hard to just justify it as special materials and stripping out redundant parts given what Roarke has available and Karen's penchant for brutality in design.
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>>608878
Oh, I don't think that that was made clear earlier. Also, Would this be Amos's new mech?
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>>608874
The Kaiser would rock the Black Getter cape, or maybe the Crossbone's one
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>>608870
If you increase the weight class it also increases melee weapon damage, right? So it makes just as much sense to keep it heavy whilst making it faster as it does to make it lighter and faster. Even if cost inefficient.

Also, I feel bad for Simon. He doesn't have the patented "put your fist THROUGH him" technique but they want him to keep up with Roarke. He needs his bioreactor so he can ruin everything first.
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>>608878
Man we are going to be covered in thrusters by the time we are done. It'd look quite spooky.
>>608882
No, we're getting the Gyan Krieger which is basically a REALLY good Gyan that put the Gelgoog Jager to shame.
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>>608884

Was wondering if Master Asia would teach Roarke the techniques of the cutting cloth but that cloak would be badass.

>>608886

And then amos will die in it like Zolomon Ringo
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>>608886
The Jarja has better missiles and guns, so I think it might be more appropriate. Its also based on the Gyan, so its Kosher.
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>>608885
Wrong! Melee damage is affected by the size of your arms, not the total weight. Light Heavy gives a +2 to damage for example. Weight Reduction is more on the lines of maneuver penalties since we don't have it affect move. So really, there is no point in not having it.

>>608890
But we aren't black OR a new type!
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>>608885
Weight class is important if we use dismember or ram. And dismember completely ignores armor and does damage directly to the servo
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>>608900
Whoops thats armor servo not weight, but ram, throw and slam all matter on our weight vs our enemy's
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>>608897
Well clearly a medium heavy is heavier than a light heavy, you can see where I get confused.

>>608900
>there are mechanics for bite attacks
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>>608914
You wouldn't believe what weird things have mechanics in there
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>>608878
Is there any chance any of Gretchin's secondary interviews included Red Siren Squeeing over the China Girl music box she got? I sorta want to see the reaction to that.
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>>608907
>>608920
>mucho damage

This rulebook is fucking ridiculous.
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>>608900

And whether or not this is a houserule, Dismember and Ram use your PRE-Weight Efficiency tonnage. It wouldn't be fair otherwise.
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>>608920
there is a means to make super deformed mecha that function off of Kawaii and Kowaii. You have no ideas how often I have pictured a Blue Gill Joe cartoon with certain cast mech popping up in it.
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>>608927
So we could have a 60 ton mech, WE it down to 40 and still have dismember and ram counted as if we were 60? If so holy shit

>>608929
Thats exactly what I was thinking about that and the psionic system
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>>608914
That's for the zoid mechs. So, Mr.Wong, blade liger when?
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>>608929

There actually is at least one popular cartoon about a talking Shetland that solves crimes.
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>>608933

Not could, do. That's exactly the situation, numbers and all, that the Kaiser is in. Like I said, the upgrade improved a lot.

By the way, fun fact! I actually updated the Rogues' Gallery page, finally. It now has all of the SOUL mecha.
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>>608939
And now it has a arc featuring Phantom Thief K stealing a museum piece of Thoroughbred X's arm.
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>>608946
Speaking of updates has Roarke's ip in anything gone up from the master pastebin? Its been a while since we've changed dice on any roles
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>>608952
I'd imagine Leadership is at at least 6, maybe higher.
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>>608952

Soon. When Roarke next sees the Undefeated.
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>>608947

Phantom Thief K is easily the most menacing thing in that cartoon, and its Harpies are already pure nightmare fuel.
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>>608937
When Karen gets around to upgrading the robot pup we were considering getting her a while back.
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>>608937
It says it's also for living things. So hypothetically if there is a mech-sized humanoid creature out there it could feasibly bite as well. I just want to bite things with the Kaiser. And Simon's not!EVA
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>>608971
They probably will call it an Evangelion, probably for the exact same reason anno did
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>>608971
Why would it have to be mech-sized? You'd just scale the damage in accordance with the scaling rules. Hell, even a regular-sized human technically qualifies, being a living thing.
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>>608968
And then there is the Phantom Thief's left and right hand, the Osana-Wo and Archen who serve as a comedic side to the group.
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>>608937
Thank you for reminding me.

These mechs are nice Wong don't get me wrong but when do we fight the real heavy hitters?
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>>608973
Well based on the tech inuniverse, simons mech is going to be a barely shackled green man isnt it
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>>608974
We've actually fought outside of our mecha once if you don't count the foreplay with Clemmy. And it was against Rashad. No one cares about human-scale combat. Not yet, anyway.
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>>608977
Probably after we beat another Paladin or two, then they'll send us the top ranked ones to fight us

>>608978
Who knows, they might just be using the tech to grow and organic mech rather then shackle a Greenman
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>>608980

You also pistol-whipped a mugger unconscious and got beaten up by the Undefeated, as Roarke. As Caesar, you had a friendly greeting from Clemmy.
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>>608985
Again -actually fought-. Bullying a couple of punks, getting a lucky shot whilst being schooled, and not being a little bitch aren't real fights. It's not like we went into it saying "let's break this dude's fucking neck." or anything.
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>>608980
They should. After all, the scaling rules are hilarious and should be a̶b̶u̶s̶e̶d̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶m̶u̶c̶h̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶p̶o̶s̶s̶i̶b̶l̶e used sparingly and with the greatest care.
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“We really ought to at least take a look at the new prisoner. You should have heard her over the comms before she was shot down, she was talking about beating us as if we were kids facing an adult or...or the way a scientist talks about pinning a bug to a piece of board.” You remark

“Insect, Amos. True bugs are members of Order Hemiptera.” Garret corrects you.

“See what I mean?” You gesture at him, “She might as well have been discussing pruning a shrub or something, I don't think the idea that she could lose ever even occurred to her.”

“Tsh, arrogant bitch. Yes, I definitely want to see her. I want to see the look on her face at being dragged down by the serfs. I want to see her rue underestimating my designs. Rue it!” Irina scowls, standing up and tossing the tea-soaked napkins carelessly onto Sergeant Nedermeyer's plate. She pulls her PC out of the pocket of her labcoat, punching in a message to Marilyn, and receiving a quick response, “...They just breached the locks on the cockpit, we'd better hurry.”

[Continued]
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>>608998
It's a set up, cheese it Amos.
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>>608998
By the time we get there, everyone's already dead.
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>>609002
It'll actually be super annoying if our critical ends up just being turned into a negative and we end up in the same scenario as if we never got the hit in the first place.
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>>609002
Or green.
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So you make your way to the mechbay. Irina isn't in much of a talking mood, especially when it becomes apparent that the rest of the pilots are following you.

The Paladin is laid out flat, each limb individually secured with massive clamps. Its entire torso is covered with pale blue epoxy, waves in the hard-set substance making it look half melted. A handful of technicians wearing gas masks are chipping away at it with handheld cutting lasers, big, unwieldy things attached by cable to a main power core. A steady cloud of powdered epoxy dust rises from their efforts, blown away out of the open bay door by gigantic portable military fans. Marilyn, identifiable from her ears, finally straightens up from the excavation site and gives a thumbs-up to the waiting soldiers.

Two dozen MPs in power armor surround the downed mech, heavy energy rifles poised and ready. Another six have smaller, handheld versions of the epoxy gun. Four have what look like some kind of electrified net launchers. The mech-sized gate to the outside slams shut, massive locks rotating into place. A regal, vintage Morgan II, heavily customized and sculpted with ornate red and gold armor, unsheathes a massive flanged mace from a rack while a pair of Pumpkinseed IIs aim their beam cannons down at the hatchway. Captain Clearwater's voice echoes from the Morgan's loudspeaker, “This is Captain Matthias Clearwater of the United Jovian Colonies Independent Defense Force. You are surrounded with overwhelming firepower, and it would be a damned shame for you to die with so little drama. Would you please come out with your hands up? I assure you, we abide by all civilized conventions in regard to the treatment of prisoners.” The Morgan II hoists the mace over one shoulder, "I really, really would appreciate it if you didn't do anything foolish."

The cockpit opens, a pale green glow from inside fading. Emergency lights, perhaps. A slender, graceful figure stands up, gloved hands held high above her head.

"Oh, you have a sword. Right, would you kindly take it off and toss it onto the floor somewhere?" The Captain inquires. You suppose that politeness is cheap when you're riding a good forty or so tons of Morgan II and commanding a lot of burly people in power armor.

The Paladin hesitates, then tears her belt off and throws it in a deliberately soft underhand to the floor.

"Arms in front of you, this is for your safety as well as ours." The Captain instructs, and again she complies. A pair of manacles so thick and bulky that they resemble metal sleeves more than normal restraints are slapped onto her arms, and the troopers begin leading her out of the bay.

[Continued]
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>>609005
But it wouldn't be the same scenario.

This time, we'd be fighting her in person.
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>>609011
Apperantly captain had the same idea as the rest of us did.
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>>609011
I hope for Amos's sake she isn't the type to fall in love with the man who beat her
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>>609025
Imagine if she trains amos.

"I refuse to allow the man who beat me have such poor piloting ability."
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>>609025
knowing her luck, the soldiers will throw a old maid outfit at her when she demands fitting clothes.
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Except that path leads the procession of soldiers quite close to where your knot of nineteen people is standing around trying to stare as nonchalantly as possible.

The woman's expression is cool and dismissive, on the surface. Yet, somehow the look on her face tells you that she isn't quite all there, as if she's deep in thought. Until she sees you, and the entire focus of the enemy commander hits you like a plasma bolt to the chest. She abruptly stops moving, one of the troopers behind her nearly walking into her.

"Please continue moving." This time, the Captain's voice isn't over his Morgan's PA, he's emerged onto the cockpit hatch of his mech and is just projecting his voice well.

"Sir Captain." She calls back, equally adept at filling the bay with her voice, "I wish to give something to one of these pilots, the one called the Blue Knight." She smiles. It's an unsettling smile, more the baring of teeth than an expression of happiness, "The one who spoke so ardently of protecting his friend before defeating me."

Sergeant Nedermeyer giggles for some reason.

"It's not some veiled allusion to violence, is it? I really will kill you if you try to hurt even a single one of my people, even if I have to do it with my own two hands." The Captain promises, riding his liftwire back down to the floor.

"Nay, Sir Clearwater. I wish for him to have my sword, it was his bladesmanship that undid my vassal Dame Wayland and it belongs in good hands. Ah, and my hat. I shall retrieve these articles from him later, but for now I shall allow him these trophies." She glances around, noticing that the MPs are a bit hesitant to get close enough to take her hat, "Well? Are you so uncouth as to ignore instruction? Very well, I shall give it to him myself, pray refrain from slaying me meanwhile." She makes an elegant nod to the Captain over her shoulder, then tenses her body like a spring. She crouches down, then leaps upward onto her toes and tosses her head, her silver hair flying upwards along with her hat. With a snap of her teeth, she catches the brim in her mouth, then with a flick of her neck hurls the tricorn sidelong at you. You catch it almost without thinking. The Paladin smiles ruefully, "It will be hard to live down this shame, but live I must. My purpose is not yet fulfilled." She holds her head high, and walks along with her guards like a queen in exile.

"Tsk." Irina hisses. You can see her fighting NOT to, but pettiness wins out in the end, and she calls out, "You might not live all that long, sweetheart."

The Paladin gives her the sweetest smile imaginable, "Then I'll just have to hurry, won't I?"

You hear Irina's hands creak from how tightly she clenches her fists, "Smug bitch."

>[Put on the hat]
>[Do not put on the hat]
>[Put the hat on someone else]
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>>609048
WAIFU WARS 2 BEGINS

POLAND HAS JUST BEEN INVADED. BATTLE STATIONS.
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>>609048
>>[Put the hat on someone else]
Not really our style, Garret might pull it off though
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>>609048
>>[Put on the hat
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>>609048
> Put on the hat

The hats going on our ace logo
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>>609053
>>Do not Put on the hat

Its not our style but it seems unnecesarily mean to mock someone trying to lose gracefully. However I would keep it in a display stand with the sword.
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>>609048
>[Put on the hat]
She seems like she could do with a hug.
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>>609048
Give the hat a once over before putting it on. Who knows what evils lurks in the hats of man. Also it might not fit our melon head.
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>>609048
>[Do not put on the hat]
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>>609071
incidentally, ask Irina and the others how it looks. I can honestly see it looking comical on amos' head.
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>>609048
>>[Put on the hat]

>>609071
Or we can incorporate the hat design into the design of our new ace suit's head.
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Instead of stealing her symbol we should make our own symbol
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>>609094
Why not a Jack O Lantern in respect for the pumpkin?
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You look the hat over for any signs of anything malicious. The hat allows itself to be manipulated in the docile manner of its kind. It is sturdy, not particularly ostentatious, and looks waterproof. Its sole ornament is a curly white feather. On the other hand, you're worried it would look ridiculous if it doesn't fit you and just perches on top of your head. You try it on. Surprisingly, it fits, particularly since you aren't wearing it as low over your face as she does.

The Captain saunters over, stopping to scoop up the Paladin's swordbelt. He hands it over to you with a smile, "Nice haul, well done Amos. Try not to get jealous, Irina, she's in a cell and you're out here, what can she possibly do?" Scabbarded, it's a nice-looking saber, with just a touch of ornateness to the hilt with its button guard and single-strand finger protector, the curve slight and graceful. You've also acquired a rather nice-looking long knife with it, fairly plain until you unsheathe it a little and see the ornate engravings on the blade. From the gleam of the edge, both weapons are definitely mono-blades. Neat.

"So how do I look?" You pose.

Irina giggles and Garret and Simon shake their heads.

"It doesn't...it just doesn't fit you." Simon says.

Garret nods, "It clashes terribly with your uniform. In civilian wear, it would be a different story. Keep the blades, though."

"That's fine, I'm still wearing it for now." You announce stubbornly.

Irina shakes her head, smiling, then yelps as you pat her on the butt, "Let's go. We can see her put away properly, or we can go to a bar and enjoy our day off. This time, I'll buy." You grin down at her.

She reaches up and flicks the end of your hat's white feather, "Don't even think about it. I'm buying."

"Wonderful! It's nice to see a couple getting along." Captain Clearwater cheerfully claps both of you on the back, "But I have something better. More cultured. Innsmouth's Theatre in the Park is rather a talented bunch, and they're putting on an old Terran classic. Batman!"

You remember being one of the dancing mercenaries back when your class at the Academy did Batman. Simon himself was the titular lead, and did a rather good job of it in your opinion.

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>>609098
Considering Amos is based off of Jiron, it needs to be a melon.
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>>609109
Well, the pumpkin and melon are both vine grown fruits so its not that far off and we do pilot a pumpkin seed. Besides, 'Jack' has a lot of meanings that fit us. Jack of all trades for our all roundedness, Jack in the suit of cards, and of course, Jack the giant slayer.
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>>609106
Captain Clearwater for Best CO.
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>>609106
>You remember being one of the dancing mercenaries back when your class at the Academy did Batman.
Y'know one always thinks about how future generations lose the context of art/movies/theater/slang/etc. like the small number of shakespear's plays that survive today and how most of them are from actors copying what they remembered of the script at the time. But at the same time that lack of context can be amazing, like 80's ninjas in neon garb trading one liners in dramatic duels, as opposed to historically accurate ninja. An then those same mis-remembrances go full circle back to japan, and then Yamato is so sugoi over orange tracksuited ninja twats doing some kinda bullshit for hundreds of issues, and discussing on 4chin or whatever expy we were going with. Truly majestic.
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Hm, we got farther than I thought. Thanks to /qst/, we can pause it here, because we're continuing tomorrow once I get off work and things are going to be eventful.
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>>609134
You think tomorrow will most likely be the last Amos session?
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>>609134
Ahhh well. Guess I will need to buy popcorn. What did you think of the Masakado by the way? Tried to keep it with the Dyzengar profile while still making it beastly.
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>>609142

Before we go back to Roarke, yes, probably.
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>>609148

Expensive but interesting.
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>>609157
Yeah, I was going for something that was the same price as the new Kaiser while still being good. It's not as sturdy as some machines, but it no sells a lot of small arms, the 2nd form can stun enemies, and the Dai Masamune's third form is designed to make use of Oda's huge luck and maneuver pool since Megacrits just cut through defenses.
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Is it just me or is it wrong to want something bad happen to Soul C to raise the stakes in the war? Because despite all the hype about the Paladins, one got shot down in the opening missile barrage, and the other in a one-on-one duel.
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>>609206
First paladin also demolished 4 squadrons of veteran martian mechs when it was just playing around by itself, trying to invite a response.
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Pure curiosity, but how big is the Countess's ship? I thought it was roughly comparable to the Agamemnon in size and armament, but they were talking about it like it was a cruiser.
Also, who else thinks that the Saladin is made to be Red Siren's flagship? It is red, pretty and even has a holographic broadcast system.
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Ouch, i fell asleep just after getting here yesterday.... but it seems that i didn't lose too much.
Hahahaha, so happy for that we got to see irina's face after discovering that Roake deflorated the Paladin's honor first. XD

So...When does Wong get off work?Does anyone knows?

>>609128
This is amazing, i got to agree with you: "Truly Majestic". But at the same time... This expropriations of context can go in very bad ways... Creating problematic misconceptions of history.

>>609525
Isn't the information for that in one of the pastebins? And... isn't the ship ours?
My masterplan with this ship is to make Lori go rogue for us and creating an equilibrium to compensate for the number of Jupiters's traitors we got in our waifu-base, in this way would be easier for we to be truly neutral between avalon and SSL while we don't have the strength to show our fangs to them yet., this way lori "keep" the ship and we gain someone who really understand something about avalon.

TL;DR: Lori best girl, make her go rogue and drive that ship in our name.
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>>609549
No, it is not in the pastebin
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>>609556
Sorry, so we got to wait for Wong... But i estimate that it could be at least as powerful as the Yamato.
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You ever think of writing a lewdbin Wong?
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>>609525
Pretty sure Red Siren has her own flagship.
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>>609556
Here is my understanding of how things work in terms of ship sizes.
First you have the "transport" class. Its a striker hull, with a 20 mecha capacity and a completely useless light beam battery. Generally speaking, these things are only good for sneaking missions because they die so fast in combat.
Then, you have the Light cruiser class. Its a heavy striker hull with 50 mecha and a pair of medium beam batteries. Its the poor bloody infantry, the classic Mook ship. We have one of these.
Next you have the Heavy Cruiser. These are generally modified upgunned light cruisers with a middleweight hull with 70 mecha capacity. We've got three of these in our fleet.
Then you have the Light Heavy hull, or Pocket Battleship. The Green Skulls Agamemnon was one of these and was an out of date, undersized battleship. I think the Countess's was another, but she might be a middleweight Heavy Cruiser.
Then, you have the Battleship, like the Wels Class or the Rinehawk. Medium heavy hull with 130 mecha capacity and varying load outs.
Everything heavier than that seems to be limited production special snowflakes.

But anon, why is the light beam battery completely useless you ask? Let me explain: A light beam battery does 50 damage. A light cruiser like The Browning has 50 SP. You have to deal 100 damage to ablate starship armor. Thus, every serious warship is completely immune to light beam battery fire and you might as well spend the space on something useful like more cargo or more mecha. Or forgo point defense to mount worthwhile armament like a missile pack.


>>609823
The Heart of Sunshine, which we sold to her. I think its a heavy striker. Presumably, the Saladin (pic related), would be an endgame upgrade
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>>609849
She must of had something cool to fly around in before we sold that to her. Unless she blew all her money getting a colony I guess.
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>>609823
If I recall, she didn't really have one. Most of her raids were solo ops with light support. Big ships are really only needed for ship combat or hanger size, and the ability to pop up out of any transport and wow the crowd with a improptu robbery/idol show likely helps with her appeal.
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>>609861
IIRC, she ran around in a pair of crappy transports. Posibly something even lighter.
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>>609887
>tfw your favorite idol shows up for a gig in a rusty van
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>>609912
Its what she did when we stole the news reporters and rescued the doc and Athena. Small doesn't mean dingy. Hell, if we could we could probably turn a manta into a kaiser cycle or something.
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>>609912
>>A-A-AINZ-SAMAAAAA!

>>609849
Noble nakama, we are talking about an Avalonian warship commanded by an Countess, i don't know the details of their hierarchy of nobility, but i would guess that she is probably only below Duke Kirito a none other. So if his Haremness's ship is in the same level of the Wels Class... Lori probably has an Pocket Battleship, but with somekind of unique design (maybe some special feature? like the drills her mecha has?).

>>609940
Just give one to Karen, and it will make even the avalonians bite the dust in terms of style.
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>>610016
The duke had what I believe was an armored heavy flagship one step above the Wels. He had two Wels equivalents as well, and another ship Countess Le Kennedy's side
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>>610094
So her ship is probably a Pocket Battleship huh... Not bad.
Let's see if the fact that it's avalonian will make any difference.
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Are many of you still here at this hour? Do we have something still to plan up? What about the Tourney?
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>>610016
>(maybe some special feature? like the drills her mecha has?).
There aren't a lot of special features a ship can have. The only thing we really haven't seen yet are Strike Missiles. And the alternate crew scaling list on page 85 of the advanced tactics manual. But then again, that's hidden in the underbrush, so I'd understand if Wong missed that. He could also add in the missing steps in the ship ladder if he wanted to, but I don't expect him to do so.
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>>610738
Could always make it a giant transformable mech.
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>>610976
>tfw the Roarke Starwind variant of Bluegill Joe has a secret post-credits unlockable Triple-hardmode stage that ends with the Rhinehawk turning into some sort of mega-kaiser piloted by all the named pirates of his crew with a bioreactor so it can get hot from their collective spirits
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>>611104
>its called the Knuckle Führer
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>>610976
I actually like the general idea of the ship creator, I just would prefer a few more options. And for some of the more interesting options to be less terrible. Anyway, here's my dream battlecruiser set up.
Battlecruiser: Silver Harrier
Stats:
Medium Weight Hull (1200 Kills, 12 Spaces all occupied)
Light Heavy Armor (70SP),

Crew:
B-Grade: 1d10+14 for all skill rolls, representing an experienced but not ultra-elite crew. Your non-Ace pilots use this value too, modified by the penalties from their machine's weight.

Weaponry:
Fore Heavy Beam Battery (WA 0, 5550m range, 200K, 3 Spaces, Forward 180-degree Arc only)
Strike Missiles: (WA 0, 9250m range, 750K, WA+2, 3 Spaces, All Around Arc)
Deluxe CIWS: (WA +0, 650m range, 10K, Space 1, All-Around Arc, automatically attacks any hostile mech that enters range with no penalty and the equivalent of an infinite burst weapon effect)
Light Defensive Screen: (1000 SP lowered on a one-to-one basis by incoming damage, takes 1 Action to put up but can be dropped instantly, while active no mecha can enter or exit the vessel, 2 Spaces)

Subassemblies:
2 Mecha Bays (can support 100 mecha, 2 Spaces)
1 Cargo Hold (1800 tons)
1 Passenger Space (360 people)

Thoughs? I was trying to come up with something more interesting than the Beam batteries + Screen setup.
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>>611167
What do strike missiles do? Are they basically nukes?

I guess part of the problem is the ship creation options are a bit bare bones. Maybe you could use the scale table for ship sized mechs to just make ships?
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>>611253
Maybe we can Frankenstein some other book's ship system into the system were using
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>>611253
>What do strike missiles do? Are they basically nukes?
Strike missiles are big conventional weapons. You get two long range WA+2 750k missiles that you can't salvo fire. Personally, I think you should get three, but w/e. You can open up a bit more flexibility by allowing you to buy missile packs in 1 space 5 missile increments instead of making you buy them in 2 space 10 missile increments. Or allowing linear screen scaling.
>>611282
Traveler maybe? Or just come up with a bunch of custom weapon effects that Wong can use if he's interested.
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>>611282
Eh, Ships arent really the focus anyway. They are mostly just there for people to use as bases or fire support. They could still use a couple of other options.
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>>611296
What if I want a ship sized Epoxy cannon?
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>>611315
That really isn't an option by the ruleset we're using. You can have a core cannon that does twice the damage of a superheavy battery per shot, takes twice the space and can only be fired once every four turns. If this sounds like a terrible idea, that's because it is.
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>>611315
Ship scaled bogg spray covers a 100 hex area. Sort of like an epoxy gun.
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>>611315
>>611311
Here are some options I've got:
Weapon Effects custom tweaks added to a weapon to make them more interesting:
Rending: Does 2d10 armor ablation instead of 1d10.
Shock: Inflicts -1 WA on enemy ship next turn. Does not stack. (Maybe let it stack? Multiple Light Shock Batteries would be an interesting strategy)
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Hello everyone, I just got home and am getting set up after work. My ID MIGHT be different, but that's because I spent the night at a relative's house yesterday.

>>609299
>just the first

Loriette and her Anseis did see combat at the Gate of Mars, and while she isn't quite as pro at AoEs as the Berenger the Anseis can still do a number on Scimitars. In an earlier thread it was remarked that Fatima was being rather mean to Loriette, and I have to agree, but with the caveat that Loriette has killed significantly more of Fatima's people than Fatima has of Loriette's, and if Roarke wasn't around odds are decently good that Fatima would even the score. She might be a Martian princess, but she's a Martian princess who wanted a tank instead of a pony when she was a little girl.

>>609525

You're quite correct, the Avalonian ship is a Light Heavy the same as the Agamemnon, but the Avalonians define it as a cruiser.

>>609849

It always takes me slightly aback when an Anon not only more or less reads my mind but phrases it better than me. Well done. Although I think I might have erred at some point and called Light Heavies both Heavy Cruisers and Light Battleships, Light Battleship is emphatically correct. Anon is also correct in that the Agamemnon was an out of date, heavily modified battleship from a time when battleships weren't so large and imposing as the modern Wels-Classes.

Anon is also quite correct about light beam batteries being useless in battle. Transports primarily have them for the sake of clearing debris they aren't fast enough to avoid, but they're inefficient and a modern UJCIDF transport generally exchanges it for a CIWS system or occasionally makes more space and loads it up with a missile pack.
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>>609861

Yes. The Archen is her cool ride, shockingly expensive, dazzlingly extravagant, and remarkably killy. Aside from that, she has Auditorium and a few transports (plus the Heart of the Sunshine). It's a part of her modus operandi, swooping in and performing heists with the Archen alone (plus Roarke, these days) while the Iron Kestrels tend to roll with at least part of the fleet along.
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>>610738

I'll look into it.

>>609782

I think about a lot of things.

>>611329

Core Cannons are a disappointment.
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>>611653
>Although I think I might have erred at some point and called Light Heavies both Heavy Cruisers and Light Battleships, Light Battleship is emphatically correct.
Could always split the difference and call it a battle cruiser if you want. As long as its consistent and understandable I'm fairly fine with whatever.
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>>611725
>I'll look into it.
It basically just adds options for crews with +10, + 13, and +15 dice modifiers, with the easily extrapolated .1, .4, and .8 modifiers.
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"A play, really?" Irina rubs her eyes.

Captain Clearwater nods cheerfully, "A play. Come on, don't you want to experience some high culture? You're an artist, Irina, and theatre is art!"

"That's debatable." She grumbles.

He frowns, "What? No it isn't. It's a high art!"

"It's performed art rather than depicted art." She grumbles more, "It's transient, the quality varies depending on the director and their cast."

"Fine prose is immortal, though, and that variety only makes it more fun! Amos, I see the gleam of a fellow thespian in your eyes. You agree with me, right?" The Captain nudges you with his elbow, grinning brilliantly.

"I never said I wasn't going to go!" Irina's grumbling intensifies into snapping.

>[Go see Batman with Irina]
>[Go drinking with Irina instead]
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>>611807
>>[Go see Batman with Irina]
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>>611807
>>[Go see Batman with Irina]
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>>611807
>>[Go see Batman with Irina]
The real question is which Batman are we going to see. The super campy one, the 90s era one, the ultra dark 00-10 one, or some weird mishmash where there are like 5 different jokers.
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>>611807
>>[Go see Batman with Irina]
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>>611807
>>[Go see Batman with Irina]
and now to be subjected to a 5 hour extended rendition of Batman and Robin, complete with Bat-nipple suits
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>>611823
Maybe it's the actual Batman musical somebody made, mashed up with centuries-worth of Batman stories
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>>611880
Does that mean that the only people who remember Megaman are those who watch the Protomen shows? Because thats not a bad fate for the series.
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"Which one is it?" Saying 'Batman' is a bit like saying 'Shakespeare' these days, there are a lot of different variations and remakes and 'deconstructions' out there. Like the one where Batman had a magic eye that could control people. That one was sad.

"'Part Three, Ascendance of the Black Chevalier.' Marilyn is in it!" The Captain's smile brightens.

You heave a sigh of relief. At least it's one of the three 'canon' plays that definitely have roots on Terra, "We did Ascendance at the Academy, it might be fun for some nostalgia."

"Splendid!" The Captain claps his hands, "You know, we did Chevalier in Black back in my day. I was told I made a splendid Joker, but...you know, it's a role that can get inside your head sometimes."

"...I've heard it's unlucky." You remark. The other pilots have dispersed, and Simon and Garret too, likely because they can tell you're going off with Irina and don't want to be a bother.

"A few famous actors have become unhinged after playing the Joker, but I feel perfectly fine." The Captain scratches his head, "Well, then again, it was only the one time...anyway, here! Your tickets!" He'd obviously come prepared, thrusting them into your hands, "Do have fun, I'm off to interrogate our new guest. At least I'll know that my friends...er, subordinates...are having a good time."

[Continued]
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>>611960
>Like the one where Batman had a magic eye that could control people. That one was sad.
let's be honest, the pizza sponsership didn't help, though Agent Orange and Robin spin kicking batman were pretty great.
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>>611980
thats commissioner orange to you
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Some time later, you're sitting comfortably on a folding chair, watching the drama unfold. The holoprojector work is fantastic, it's hard to believe that before the play began the background was a semi-circle of dark-wooded trees. Now it displays a mechbay, with Gotham Colony floating in the distance.

A handsome, arrogant man stands with his feet apart and his thumbs dramatically tucked into his belt, "Doctor Pavel, I'm with the Colony Intelligence Agency." He announces, shaking the hand of the scientist that was just brought to him. Behind him stand an ominous coven of men in black hoods and manacles.

"Did you know that Batman stories were once drawn rather than performed?" Irina notes.

You blink, staring at her and trying to figure out whether she's pulling her leg, "How?" You finally manage.

"You don't get to bring your friends." CIA informs the doctor.

"Who said they were my friends?" The Doctor replies, the blunt, choppy dialogue doing a superb job carrying the tension of the scene.

"How what? They were comics, Amos, comics." She replies, both of you keeping your voices down.

You scarf a handful of popcorn, "Doesn't seem to fit the character. Batman can't really have been intended to be anything BUT a play. I mean...he's Batman!"

"The dialogue was better." She notes.

"How could dialogue be better than this?" You protest, gesturing to the stage. You've missed a few lines, but...Bane himself is about to talk, the tragically sympathetic antihero who some call the true main character of the third play.

"Such loyalty for a mere hireling!" The CIA man remarks.

"Perhaps he is simply contemplating why you would choose to risk a hull breach by shooting a man before throwing him out of the airlock." The voice is a bit...light. You're used to Bane being cast as a very bass role, and this sounds like a tenor, but the man is tall even if he isn't as muscular as you'd normally expect. The lemon-yellow robes are a new touch, and as the hood is removed you notice that in place of the more medical-looking mask over the lower half of the face that you're accustomed to seeing, it's a full-face mask of some pallid local wood.

[Continued]
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>>612086
Wong has become anon again, is this somekind of voidmagic-heresy?
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>>612086
Welp, this can go down in so many ways.
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>>611960
>"A few famous actors have become unhinged after playing the Joker, but I feel perfectly fine." The Captain scratches his head, "Well, then again, it was only the one time...

Yeaahh I don't think your faculties were entirely there to begin with, Captain.
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>>612086
...Wait, shit. WE WERE TRICKED!
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>>612090

It's because I went to make a post on /m/ and removed my trip.
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>>612086
>inb4 crashing this play. with no survivors
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>>612086
>Bane posting has become high art
Its a good feeling
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>>612143
For you
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"Who are you?" The CIA man looks genuinely baffled.

"Our identities are irrelevant." For just a moment, you could swear the man in the pallid mask is looking directly at you, "The only thing of consequence is our plan. No one cared to know my name until I donned this mask."

"And if I removed it, would you cease to be? Would you die? Or simply sink back into the nameless masses of unremembered criminality?" The agent challenges him.

"It would be an agony most excruciating." Bane ripostes.

"You're a big guy." Dialogue is often subject to small changes, but certain parts of Batman are absolutely non-arguable.

"For you." Bane corrects him, and the music kicks on.

Irina doesn't seem to be paying much attention. Innsmouth's park is on a hillier section of town poorly suited for houses, giving you an elevated vantage point, she's looking out at the more upscale district and the way the sun glitters off the buildings.

You're busy admiring how the holographic projector manages to blur the lighting just enough to create the impression of a halo around Bane's head as he bids a tearful farewell to one of his boon comrades.

"Have we started the fire?" You could swear that's real emotion in the mercenary's voice, his fuzzy feline ears not detracting from at all.

Bane nods soulfully, "Yea, my friend. The fire rises." They clasp hands, but the rope securing Bane's space suit lifts him away like a divine messenger.

The shuttle crashes with no survivors, and the play continues. Marilyn is a stellar Catwoman, bringing a greedy sensuality to the role that you feel it usually lacks. Catwoman's part tends to draw A-list actresses and idols, ones who are used to being sex icons and can come across as a little wooden because they don't normally HAVE to get deep into a character. Marilyn's version is much more charming, the audience bursts into laughter when she picks Bruce Wayne's pocket in every scene they share.

Finally, the closing song plays, and you hum along with the last notes, "He was a big guy, with a big heart, for yooooouuuu..." Your voice isn't very good, and you're being quiet, but gosh darn it you're having fun! You applaud exuberantly with the rest of the audience as they bow to you. You notice Bane hasn't taken off his mask, but that's fairly normal, one reason Bane is such a beloved role is because one's voice and attitude matter more so much more with the mask obscuring the actor's emotional state, and it's a chance to really ham it up.

[Continued]
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>>612194
The future is so fucking great.
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Now are the Cat people going to betray us, or will the other Paladin sneak attack us.

I don't like that we just captured a Paladin and then watched the plane scene, it seems like foreshadowing
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>>612233
Except for the whole 2/3 of humanity being dead thing at least.
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>>612194
Getting a Paladin vibe from the Bane actor. Still, not sure who exactly he is. If his voice is light it could be a young man. Wonder who he is.
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>>612240
>The Paladin let herself get captured to get one specific person
>She's gonna crash our ship with no survivors
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>>612266
>>That newtype feeling of things being WRONG... HORRIBLE WRONG.
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>>612266
We're now on stage 2 of the happening chart
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>>612266
Well, the plus side is that one of the new mechs was already premade and just needed some assembly, right? Surely Simon will play the big damn hero and- we are all going to die.
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>>612298
Anon, that mech isn't here its a blueprint being built somewhere else
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>Finally catch a a live thread
>We are all going to die
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>>612330
New here? Welcome aboard kouhai, don't feel afraid to ask anythings to your honorabu senpai nakamas, okay?
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>>612330
Dont worry anon, unless its a stereotype hidden under that mask they will probably job.
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>>612349
Does Hastur count as a stereotype?
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>>612345
Brazil you are too much of a newfag to be anyone's senpai.
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>>611679
>plus the Heart of the Sunshine
That's a light cruiser/heavy striker right?
>while the Iron Kestrels tend to roll with at least part of the fleet along.
To be fair, most of our recent actions have been operations with important political/military implications. We haven't really done strictly for profit theft since the Heart of Sunshine. I could see us letting one of our smaller ships go bully a transport or two as long as we were sure that they weren't going to get jumped by the Military or some pirate coalition.
If Oda wanted to go pirate a ship or two for a few weeks I don't think Rorake would stop him unless something big was coming up.
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>>612351
only if its a trap
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>>612352
There is even newer fags than me, aniki.

;-;
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>>612330
Don't fuck up
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"Amossss! Irinyaaaaa!" Marilyn waves cheerfully at you, ducking and weaving acrobatically through the crowd to get to you, "Guys, you came! I was really worried nobody from the ship would be here."

"There are at least a dozen of our crewmates out there." Irina points out.

Marilyn shrugs, "Eh, they work for me in the bay, so of course they had to come get a peek at me in my sexy costume playing a cat burglar. They're practically extras, you guys are my friends." She throws an arm around both your shoulders, "Buddies won't let buddies go hungry after a performance, riiiight?" She looks hopefully up at you.

Irina takes the half-empty bag of popcorn out of your hands and shoves it against Irina's chest, "Here. Take it and stop flaunting your damnable metabolism, if I ate as much as you I'd be a sphere."

"The perks of good genes~" Marilyn preens, then looks down into the bag and frowns, "Hey wait, this isn't nearly enough to fill my stomach! Ir-mean-a!" She huffs and lowers her ears, making big, sad eyes at you, "Amos, you won't let me starve, right? You'll feed me, won't you?" She clings pathetically to your arm.

Irina's teeth grind together, "Knock it off, he's mine." She grabs your other arm.

Marilyn lets go, her ears sticking straight up, "You finally asked him out! Good for you! I was worried about you, y'know, after what happened with your last boyfriend."

Irina looks uncomfortable, "N-not formally. I mean, not yet. Do I have to?"

Marilyn sighs, "Typical you. Let me guess, you're moving him into your room, you're acting like you're an old married couple already, you've been on at least one date...but you won't ask because you think you're unlucky and if you do something bad will happen." She shakes her head, "That's no good. Both of you deserve better."

"Wait, what happened to her last boyfriend, and don't I get a say in this?" You protest, but Irina leans up and kisses you until you stop talking. When she's done, she smiles victoriously and strokes your hair under the tricorn hat you're still wearing.

>[Continue asking, probably getting some answers but possibly putting Irina in a bad mood]
>[Don't ask any more for now, preserving her good mood but leaving niggling uncertainties]
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I'll do my best!
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>>612363

It's now a light cruiser, and always had a Heavy Striker hull, but the Heart of the Sunshine was originally not even remotely optimized for military use and was mostly passenger spaces and opulent luxuries.
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>>612399
>>[Don't ask any more for now, preserving her good mood but leaving niggling uncertainties]

Dinner time. Lets feed the catgirl.
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>>612399
>[Don't ask any more for now, preserving her good mood but leaving niggling uncertainties]
Probably better in the long run
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>>612399
>>[Don't ask any more for now, preserving her good mood but leaving niggling uncertainties]
We'll learn eventually
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>>612399
>[Don't ask any more for now, preserving her good mood but leaving niggling uncertainties]
I'm sure we'll find out in time. Still, I'm more curious about the Bane actor he was certainly different from normal, though still did a good job.
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>>612399
>>[Don't ask any more for now, preserving her good mood but leaving niggling uncertainties]
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>>612460
I saw what you did in >>612432.
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>>612477
Thought 4chan lost my post so I made another
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>>612477
you've got the wrong person,
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>>612399
>[Continue asking, probably getting some answers but possibly putting Irina in a bad mood]
"Oh, what happened with him? Oh, nothing dear, he was just murdered by this evil cultists that follow my family around, you see?Nothing to worry about!"
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>>612502
Ouch, this was me.
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>>612399
>>[Don't ask any more for now, preserving her good mood but leaving niggling uncertainties]
probably has something to do with the hate shrine I bet she hides in her room.
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You want to know, obviously. Of course you do. However, Irina's smile is beautiful and precious and you don't want to spoil it.

"If she really starves, we'd feel awful." You remark.

Irina sighs, "Lin-Lin is taking advantage of your good nature, you know, you don't have to spend money on her."

"So don't! Feed me fish!" The Qu'liri woman insists.

You check your chronometer, and glance at the position of the sun. It's universal wisdom that the best time for fishing is in the morning and evening. It would be a long hike to your preferred fishing spot, but you'd arrive just in time to enjoy hours of peak evening fishing. On the other hand, it would be a long hike, and probably not remotely what Irina had planned for your day together.

"Mmh, I didn't bring any of my gear, but there's a place we can rent from." Irina notes, "It's on the way to something I have to do." She sees you staring at her, and smiles impishly, "Who do you think was feeding this idiot before you came along? I'm the best angler on the ship."

"Second best." You can't let some things pass, even from her.

Her eyes flash, "The best, I won solidly when the Cicero held its fishing tournament, I've been fishing ever since I was a little girl. Someone had to bring home some extra food for the family, you see, and my sister was always too busy swanning around with stars in her eyes planning out her damned career in S-Pop to lift a finger."

[Continued]
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>>612543
Well, Rose slept with another guy while going out with that one mechanic, right? Could have been Irina's boyfriend.
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Half an hour break to grab some chow, I'll make it quick.
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How about we not go fishing right now something fishy is going on and we don't have time to be clowning around
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>>612603
Suggestions?
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>>612603
just because something seems off does not mean we are in any reasonable position to stop it. We have very little information aside from gut feelings, the military already going full boar with security, our entire defensive force on standby with who knows who watching for subterfuge.

We are no super genius, we have no time to prepare, and chances are wandering too close to the Paladin may just end up with US as the hostage.

Fish and gain some relaxation before the storm blows in.
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Maybe we'll catch THE fish
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>>612638
>full boar
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>>612717
Yes, it should be bore, not boar, but damned if pigs can be horrifying, especially a wild boar.
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Irina leads the way, you have to push through the crowds in the downtown district where most of the finance and corporate buildings are. Many of them are new, modern, and of distinctly Jovian architecture. Like the hotel she's marching determinedly towards. It's got a polished front, with a high, circular tower of glass and glittering steel.

"Um, isn't it a little early for this? And we kind of have someone with us." You point out.

She looks at you askance, the sun gleaming coldly off her shades, but then she smiles and pats your arm, "Some other time. I'm here for business, not pleasure."

"What kind of business?" You, naturally, inquire. It's a perfectly reasonable question, you honestly can't think of any other reason for her to visit a hotel other than to sleep in it."

She smiles at you again, but it's a little bit...sad this time, "Remember when we talked about something so classified I can't tell you about it? Consider this your exam."

The Qu'liri receptionist glances up from her desk just as Irina triple-taps the old-fashioned metal bell. She winces and lowers her feline ears against her head, "Th-that's supposed to just be for display. Um, welcome, honored guest, can I help you?"

"And the same could be said about you." Irina makes an impatient shooing motion with her hands, "You're not important enough to handle this. Bring me your supervisor. No, bring me the owner of the hotel or the...chief manager or...or whatever you call it. Whoever is in charge."

[Continued]
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Sorry for the delay, minor technical difficulties that are now resolved.
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>>612865

irina pls
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>>612870
No worries
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>>612865
I swear to god, if we finish this exam and it's a white room with everyone clapping and saying congratulations, I will eat my boxers.
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>>612889

Don't you tempt me man. Don't you tempt me.
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>>612904
PLEASE DONT!HAVE PITY ON US!

*Taking my boxes*
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>>612889

Congratulations~
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>>612889
Nah, that's Simon's eventual fate. Our role here is to save him from it, and instead guide him more towards creating galaxy-sized drills and possibly shooting Burger Kings.
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>>612363
>or some pirate coalition.
Eh
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The girl bristles, "Is it because I'm a native? I'll have you know I was educated on Europa an-"

Irina doesn't have the patience to let her finish, "Military business. You're educated enough to understand that, right? Now hurry up, I've got limited time."

You see the girl's knuckles whiten and her hands tremble slightly. You're used to looking for signs like that, you've been getting into fights for a long time and more than once you've had to stop someone from breaking Caesar's glasses. By Jove, you miss having the whole team together.

Still, this girl isn't a short-tempered older student at the Academy who just gambled away his entire monthly allowance on a Bluegill Joe match against you, she's a hostess at an upscale hotel. So instead she bows her head, dark hair falling over her eyes, "Yes Ma'am, right away." She takes out her PC and whispers discreetly into it for a moment, then nods, "The owner will be right here, Ma'am."

Irina nods briskly, "Good. Well, what are you still here for? Scat. This conversation isn't for you."

You see the Qu'liri girl actually bite her lower lip, and her cheeks quiver slightly as she tries to maintain her impassive expression. She stands up, bows at the waist wordlessly, and walks rather too quickly away into the hotel. Interestingly, the central part is a miniature park in and of itself, with tall vines surrounding fluted glass columns containing the elevators. There are fruit trees, some ripe with peaches, and even blackberry bushes visible.

[Continued]
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This is literally the worst way to get covert work done. Jesus, looks like Roarke ended up with the subtle sister.
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>>612968
>Rosita
>Subtle
I like her, but she has a neon version of herself on display just above her own colony and preforms some of the flashier gigs of the pirates we seen. That includes Oda. I'm expecting some young female pilot calling her a hag and she just goes full berserker.
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>>612968

Ironically he kind of did.
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>>612951
That's not going to bite us in the ass at all.
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>>612997
I'm waiting for someone to call Oda's waifu a shit to his face.
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>>612968
What if all the loud and blatant talk about secret military work is actually a cover to mislead all the inevitable spies listening in right now from the actual secret military work that'll be happening later when the spies aren't watching?

The covert stuff will go down later when we're having a supposed fishing contest; what's going down in this hotel will be something entirely different.
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>>613005
We have to find out who his waifu is first I bet it something incredibly pleb tier
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>>612997

True, but he has a point in that for all her flash Rosita's approach to this would probably be more subtle, because she would probably ask Samantha to do it.
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>>613024
Thats a good point. Rosita is a social butterfly compared to Irina so she at least has people who can shore up her weaknesses. Irina seems really capable, but she also seems to prefer being the lead at times.
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>>613024
That's where she fails - everyone knows to watch out for Sam by now. What she should be doing is asking Samantha to be extremely obvious about seeming to do it, while Fatima actually gets it done secretly.
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>>612947
>Eh
To explain that, I'll have to start with my, probably horribly inaccurate, understanding of how the Solar System Piracy community works. There are 3-4 "Tiers" of Pirates.
Tier one, are the scrubs. They have a transport with a light beam battery, a few harpies, and are led by a Harpy Custom, or maybe a Bluegill or something. Totally generic and interchangeable, they feed off of the scraps, and we can basically ignore them.
Tier two are the serious gangs. They've got a light or heavy cruiser, are probably lead by a Master Harpy or similarly costed Mecha and generally know what they are doing. The Iron Kestrals, Stone Soldiers, and Storm Dragons were all this tier at the start of the quest.
Tier 3 are major players. 2-3 ships, probably with some sort of nasty custom Mech job. The Iron Kestrals after absorbing the Storm Dragons, and Red Siren's crew
Tier 4 King Of Pirates. 5+ ships lead by a battleship. The Green Skulls used to hold this position with five ships lead by a light heavy, until Roarke killed them and took their stuff. He's now significantly more powerful than they are at their height.

My belief is that just like the aggressive actions of the Green Skulls led to the creation of the coalition that ultimately brought them down, the sheer power that the Iron Kestrals have is something that the rest of the pirate community will have to deal with. Inevitably, some of them will try to band together in some sort of defensive alliance to deter the Kestrals. How many do so, and whether it turns out to be a credible deterrent is something I have no idea of. Frankly, I'm a lot more worried about 2-3 tier 2 gangs trying to ambush one of our smaller ships alone then I'm about a pirate fleet actually making a run at the Rinehawk. Hell, I'm not even sure that there are any more tier 3 players around besides Siren.
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>>613017
Its cover for the real work: Drugs
Calling it now, Irina's the biggest Drug Czar on the planet, and Clearwater's here to to make sure her product gets off world. the Mech building is a Front.
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>>613046
that would involve Fatima being subtle.thats as likely as Karen successfully navigating a Gala on her own.
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>>613061
I would say Fatima is likely the second most capable of being subtle of the five after Sam, given that the other options are Rosita, Clemmy and Karen.
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>>613047
Well, for the most part we seem to have the majority of tier twos and all the tier threes with established names. The thing is that the big swaths of Green Skull turf is going to be a melting pot for any crew to try their hand. Some tier ones may become twos just due to experience and constant fighting, but they will likely not reach tier three. It's the big divider as I see it since tier three not only requires skill, but leadership on a grander scale. Not a common thing for pirates.
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>>613090
I think Clemmy is more subtle than Fatima. She just doesn't bother most of the time.
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>>612951
So, who decided the woman with the galaxy-sized inferiority complex and resulting pathological inability to stop throwing her weight around was the person to conduct top secret business?
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>>613100
Even then the tier 2s and 3s would most likely join up with us considering we would just kick the shit out of them and take their shit if they said no
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>>613106

Corporate Incompetence
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>>613106
Probably Captain Clearwater
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>>613106
The same people who, in another universe, might have thought it prudent to design giant mecha that can only be piloted by mentally-unstable underage children?
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>>613134
Well it worked, didn't it? Think of the absolutely ridiculous profit that merchandising is pulling in to this day.
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At the base of one of the elevators, the dark haired girl runs into an older, more matronly Qu'liri woman in sensible attire. She draws herself up to her full height, nods once, and makes her way over to the main desk. Her voice is just slightly cool, "I'm the owner of this establishment, is there something I can help you with?"

Irina reaches into the pocket of her labcoat, opens a small, velvet-lined case, and takes out a data needle. She hands it to the woman, "Read this, sign it with your fingertip to acknowledge that you've read it, and the funds will be transferred to you."

"What funds? What is this? I was told there was a representative from the military here, why am I receiving a sudden donation?" The woman looks confused and nervous as she slots the needle into her PC, opens a small holoscreen with the side facing away from her blanked out to avoid having it read (a common setting) and scrolls through what's apparently a block of text.

"Requisitions." Irina says in terse, clipped tones.

The woman sees something, and abruptly her finger stops, "This is insane. They can't do this, I'm not signing this. I...I live here, it's not just my business, it's..."

"Neither of us has a choice." Irina interrupts, "Just sign it."

"No." The older woman abruptly turns off her PC, "I won't do it. This is Jovian territory and I know my rights."

Irina turns her head slowly. Marilyn's ears are down and she looks as uncomfortable as you imagine you must seem right now, "Marilyn, why don't you take Amos and go pick up our gear? I'll be just a moment."

Marilyn takes hold of your arm, nods, and tows you back on the front door, "Come on, big guy. Let's just go get the fishing stuff, and when this is done we'll go have a good time, laugh, and if I'm doing my job as her friend right the ice queen will thaw out a little more from interacting with you normally. C'mon."

>[Follow Irina's instructions and go]
>[Refuse]
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>>613107
Ehh, for the most part yes. You'll get your smarter crews who realize that a slice of the pie isn't so bad if it's a big pie, or the ones who realize that messing with the Bull of Io is a bad idea in general. Then you get the sort who took up piracy for the sort of reasons the Green Skulls did. They'd rise up, get to second or maybe third tier, see the Kestrels as a challenge and go right at them, likely dying horribly.
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>>611980
I thought that was a OMAC reference actually.

>>612561
Are we breaking up with her over fishing?>>612997
Thats kinda our point actually.
If Rosita came here and wanted to do high grade secret stuff she would probbably sign a autograph, have the girl get her manager over so she can PERSONALLY compliment them on what a great job she's done, and give her a tip to buy something nice.

Then actually do shit when they leave.

Instead Irina just made a casual enemy and you really dont need those in her situation.
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>>613167
>>[Follow Irina's instructions and go]
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>>613167
>>[Follow Irina's instructions and go]
Well she did call this our exam,
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>>613167
>>[Follow Irina's instructions and go]
We're a soldier and this shit is above our pay-grade. good way to get bullet to the head if you fuck up.
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>>613100
There might be a Tier three the Dominates the trojans or the greeks.
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>>613167
This clearly can't be a part of the super top secret shit, besides perhaps a corruption cover up. The timing is way too weird. Their base is horribly understaffed, a hotel cant be used to contain anyone, or anything. I cant see why to do this besides just... evicting people to prevent leaks?
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>>613167
>[Refuse]
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>>613170
Thing is their men would probably betray them if they ever got into a direct fight with the Kestrels especially if Roarke is their himself

>>613167
>[Follow Irina's instructions and go]
I don't like any of this Irina's just siting here making enemies of people who already don't like Solars in public places this is only going to make people go to the Avalonians
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>>613167
>>[Follow Irina's instructions and go]
Something about this rubs me the wrong way, but we are a soldier. Possibly just a look of 'be nice to her, Irina' and thats that. We have a lot of questions after all.
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>>613167
>[Tell Irina that she doesn't have to be so roundabout with us]
>[Tell her that we trust her]
>[Go]
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>>613070

Good glory, I like it!

>>613177

That really wasn't an option for Irina in this case.
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>>613203
This.
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this towns sitting on something very valuable, isn't it. and they need to get the locals out of here before they dig it up.
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>>613246
>The Town is sitting on Ctulhu.
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>>613246
>tfw we're the Marines and Avalon are the Na'vi
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>>613246
Maybe it's an old bio-weapon from before the Sidereal War. Where it was suppose to turn all women exposed to it into catgirls but instead turns all organic material into jello mush.
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>>613246
buried greenman relic tech time, christ if it's a cat based lycanthropy like disease... well it's bloodborne time so maria's the best one to handle it.
though if amos got a hold of pic related...
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>>613263
Actually, now that I think about it, Avalon are the avatars, and the Qu'lir are the Na'vi
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>>613263
But the Na'Vi were a bunch of hippies who were unable to negotiate something as simple as a tech trade or even more planets they COULD live on.

>>613281
If the biosuits have something like a bioreactor or god forbid, regenerative biotics, it'd be something that must be dug up.
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You can't lie to yourself, this doesn't feel good. Something is going on here, and it feels downright slimy. Still...you can't undercut Irina here, you can see how tense she is too. What you don't understand is, why? What's the point of it? The Cicero is understaffed as it is and has plenty of spare rooms, and you'd imagine the Martian ship is the same way after the horrific losses they took against the Paladin.

"I trust you." You say it bluntly, and put a hand on her shoulder, "You can always be straight with me."

"Then go." She tries to smile at you, but it doesn't really come out as a smile, more a sort of grimace as she faces down the bristling catgirl.

You nod and turn away, walking out with Marilyn. It's actually a somewhat short walk, some of the smaller local businesses have absolutely refused to move and resulted in little old-fashioned shops surrounded by office buildings. This particular one is family-owned, and run by the oldest man you have ever seen. Signs on the wall advertise tours run by what you suppose must be his relatives, safaris out into the brush, boating expeditions, and he also rents and sells a lot of sporting equipment. He jokes several times, enough to make you think that he really would do it if you acceded, about buying your sidearm off you, showing you an impressive collection of pistols he keeps behind the counter. As a SOUL member, you were spoiled for choice when it came to a sidearm, and rather than go for one of the compact, easily concealable ones that are popular with the majority of cadets you picked the biggest plasma pistol you could find. You and Marilyn pick up the fishing gear soon enough, though, and make your way back to the hotel just in time to see Irina marching down the stairs with her head held high.

The hotel's owner is standing in the door behind her, her eyes blazing with anger. "Get out! You got what you wanted, so go! I don't ever want to see you again!" The hair on her tail is standing on end, making it look like a bottlebrush.

"It's not exactly like this will be something that can stay hidden long-term, but I'd point out that speaking too much about this could be construed by the gendarmes as disturbing the peace. Or inciting a riot. Or, in extreme cases, treason." Irina points out, adjusting her sunglasses.

The hotel's former owner proves that catgirls can, indeed, hiss, "Go to hell! People like you..." She sniffles, she doesn't seem the kind of person who normally yells at people and isn't very good at it, "People like you are just monsters! You...you know what happens to monsters, right!?"

Irina's shoulders stiffen to the point where they could have been chipped out of Europa's icy surface, "Yes. I do."

[Continued]
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Man, screw the belt. Roarke should set up shop here. Lots of fights to be had, far from the law, perky catgirls, what's not to like?
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>>613319
The messenger is always the first to be shot down in times of war like this.
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>>613336
>what's not to like?
Being weighed down by gravity
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"They always lose in the end! You...you..." The older woman finally loses her composure entirely, falling to her knees and sobbing into her sleeves. The dark-haired receptionist opens the door and leans down to put an arm around her former employer, helping her to her feet and into the building.

Irina marches onward, her head held high until she reaches you. Her voice is quiet, "I really, really hate myself sometimes." She notes, trying to sound more clinical and less upset than she actually does.

>[Say something]
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>>613336
No rich princesses to kidnap or Military commanders worth bullying
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>>613346

Bully Captain Clearwater.
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>>613345
>[Hugs]
>"We're soldiers in a war. No one likes what we have to do, but we have to do it still. If it helps, don't hate yourself for doing what you need to - hate those who make you need to do it."
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>>613351
>Worth bullying
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>>613346
Bully Maria
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>>613345
It's another reason we have to win, right? If this war goes on, a lot of people will be dragged into this one way or another. It sucks, it's stupid, no one likes to do it, but we have to do what we can and help.

All we can do is try and keep them safe, maybe help rebuild once it's over. Least we can do for these people, right?
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>>613345
>Hug her Firmly "There is enough hate going around without you hating yourself"
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>>613345
"Soldiers go through the same thing. Sometimes, many times we have to do fucked up shit to get results but that's what we do. That's our Job.
The hope i have is that one day i can make it to the top, maybe give more to the universe than i stole. It won't help those we fucked over in the process but if at the end of the day the Universe is a better place, I'm content. Either way beating yourself up about it, feeling sorry for yourself wont do anyone any good."
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>>613345
>>613369
second
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You don't hesitate. You throw your arms around her and hug her close. She stiffens momentarily, then relaxes, then throws herself into it, hugging you tightly. "There's enough of that going around without you hating yourself. We're soldiers in a time of war. Nobody likes what we have to do, but we still have to do it. If it helps, blame the people who made you do it. This isn't doing something on your own, is it?"

She abruptly stiffens up again, "How did you know?"

You roll your eyes, "Because you can barely afford your bar tab, let alone a hotel."

She nods a little, "I can't tell you whose orders they are, or what I'm doing, but there was no way they wouldn't have hated me after that."

"It's just another reason to win, right? The longer this goes on, the more people will be dragged into it one way or another. All we can do is try to keep them safe, maybe help rebuild some day." You nod and squeeze her tighter, "I won't lie, though, I am kind of upset."

"Me too, you melonhead." She makes a choked sound in her throat.

"Because you think you're going to catch more fish than me." You explain, and hug her tighter. She sighs, finally allows herself to smile, and rests her head on your chest.

[Continued]
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Eventually, Marilyn complains about being hungry loudly enough to separate you and Irina, and the three of you make your way through town to the outskirts.

"You know." You remark, hoisting your fishing rod over your shoulder, "I normally go don't go this way, I'm a little turned around." You glance at the last of the houses behind you

"The river curves around half of Innsmouth, Amos, I'm sure we'll find it easily and from there we can find a good spot." Irina tuts as the wild meadow beneath your feet starts to become more choked with honeysuckle as it descends towards where both of you suspect the river will be.

There's a lot of brush, though, so it's hard to be sure. Abruptly, Marilyn grabs the both of you by the backs of your shirts, and pulls you down into a tall patch of jewelweed, "Shh!" Her eyes are narrowed, her posture strangely feral as she tilts her head to the side.

You can't hear anything. Or see anything, either. At least, for a minute. Then you spot something coming down the same slope you were descending, a hundred or so feet away but moving parallel to you.

It's a girl. A familiar one. She was the receptionist at the hotel. Youthful features, probably around the same age as Simon and Garret, dark hair and dark eyes, with white fluff on the insides of her feline ears.

[Continued]
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>>613468
God damn traitor cats
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Actually, give me 1d10+9, Int+Awareness. I've been typing [Continued] so much it must have stuck in my mind.
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>>612561
Wait, Rosita is Irina's sister?
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Rolled 4 + 9 (1d10 + 9)

>>613468
ambush
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Rolled 10 + 9 (1d10 + 9)

>>613479
Its space Vietnam time
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>>613483
so, does that mean we get this because Thunder replied to the post Mr. Wong asked the dice for?
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>>613483
>It Ain't Me starts playing
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>>613490
That's what I always listen to when I roll for Amos
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Rolled 3 + 9 (1d10 + 9)

>>613483
I'm not even surprised at this point
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Rolled 10 + 9 (1d10 + 9)

>>613468
And here comes the end.
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>>613477
can't say I blame her for wanting to start shit.

still, Jove's got to make a profit off this planet somehow.
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>>613483
>>613496
Truly Namefags hold great power in this domain
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>>613483
>>613496
fucking namefags I swear to Jove.....
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>>613497
I think this is a case of 'this planet is fucked' no matter what side picks it up. One side will likely dig it up/use it, likely harming the civvies, and the other side will try to seal or destroy it, harming the civvies. Just a bunch of cats being played with.
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>>613502
This planet has just been a shit show for both sides at this point
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>>613499
>>613500
Guys, if you just want this power so much, there isn't much preventing you of namefaging, we are already on quest.
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>>613523
Let's make the planet ours then.
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>>613523
twenty years down the line we'll end up with some sort of neko-isis. Adorable cat ear terrorists that rage against both sides.
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>>613524
Eh, it probably won't work.
Namefagging must come from the HEART
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>>613524
>forsaking 4chan culture and identity for power
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"Whew, it's just that kid." Marilyn heaves a sigh of relief, "I bet she's out here to get some crawfish traps out of the river, or she's meeting a boyfriend."

Irina frowns, "Either way, I don't want to talk to her. Drama and fishing shouldn't mix."

You, meanwhile, are sitting quietly, watching her. You can see the ground rising again where the trees clear out, and behold the pale grey and regular lines of stonework. You move forward slightly, "No, I think she's going to church."

Both women stare at you as if you've gone insane.

You point, "Past those trees, there's a church." Indeed, there is one, weedy and overgrown with moss, studded with round-topped towers and fronted with a facade of fluted pillars. You can still see a bent, twisted cross on top of on of the towers, indicating that it's quite old since it doesn't have the RCC aesthetic.

Irina starts to stand up, and you pull her back down as you spot further movement. Someone in a brown-and-green cloak detaches themself from the mossy wall of the church and waves to her. You see the gleam of an autorifle in their hand. The pair go inside together, shutting the door behind them.

You wait for some time, but don't see anyone else. Finally, you exhale, "We have to follow her."

Irina stares at you, "Why?"

"Because it's suspicious." You explain, "And because my gut is telling me to."
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>>613536
On this path lies the way to tumblr.
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>>613524
away with you, Portuguese Satan!
>>613532
I give it five years, tops
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>>613539
and at the end lies geogaf.
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Game continues Saturday, same thread. I would say it's likely to be short because it's wrapping up Amos for the time being...but I've said that before and it's never come out true.
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>>613534
>>613536
>>613539
>>613543
>>613545
COME TO THE DARK SIDE ANONS!
YOU DONT KNOW THE TRUE POWER OF THE NAMEFAGING SIDE!
UUUNNNLIMITED POWAAAAAAAHH!
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>613552
BEGONE, TEMPTOR
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>>613552
Don't group me in with this
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Rolled 7 (1d10)

>>613553
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Rolled 6 (1d10)

Ohalso
>>613548
Thanks for running!
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>>613552
Please, I shot down a damn Paladin with a missile, crushed plenty of heads, and killed my share of green skulls. I may not try and seduce or try crazy stuff, but damned if I will give up my anon status to try and hunt for glory.
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>>613548
Amos, you will make a fine sacrifice to the elder things that sleep beneath the surface. I'a, I'a...

Wouldn't that be some shit, though? What a way to go.
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>>613548
Thanks for running Wong, as always, it has been an honor.
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>>613553
>>613559
>>613566
AAAAAAHHHHHH!!!
*Falls into a technologic hole while shooting d10s from his fingers*
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>>613568
Well, if this is a pre war church it may just be a greenman church. Worshiping the lady and likely serving as a grave from some of them. Maybe even with some bio armor. It's probably what Simon's stuff is. Not so much making a new mech, but taking control and recycling a bioarmor while making it perfectly safe to pilot. It'd be a great moral breaker against the Avalonians. One of their treasured relics of their goddess' people turned into a enemy machine.
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>>613595
or its the base of a cat eared insurgency working with avalon to fuck up the Jovians who want to take their land.

I hereby dub them Kitty-Kong
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>>613336
The difficulty of getting here mainly. Actually getting through any of the Macrogate platforms would be a pain in the ass. We'd need some sort of macrogate platform of our own, or some experimental thing mounted in the Rinehawk.
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>>613595
Hm... Would they? Or would it just be considered a sign that even the Gas Knights recognize superiority of Bio-Engineering?
>>613625
I Second this, from now on they should be know as the "Kitty-Kong Heresy".
>>613336
WHY NOT TO TAKE BOTH?
Qu'lr could be our first planet in the future expansion of the Pirate Kingdom.

Seriously, i can't wait to play as the descendance of Roarke, and to watch the political shenanigans unfold while Kamille and Dio fight for the throne while defending themselves from enemies from within and outside the Kingdom.
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>>613170
>>613201
To be fair, its always possible that Fairchild will dust off the old playbook and support them in some fashion. I doubt it would work, but she might do something just to annoy us. Then we'd salvage the mechs and watch her REEE.

Incidentally, the Altgraf has been updated, now with hopefully more sanity:
http://pastebin.com/TmFxwhjU
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>>613819
That would be the case if it was simply just using the tech. The moment the Jovians add their own things and lobotimize the armor to make it safe for use is the moment the purity of form is lost. To the avalonians it'd be like chisling off bits of a holy artifact, removing the jewels, and putting a big fat SOULS logo in the crevice when you consider Miss Kennedy was freaking out about anyone touching her paladin.

>>613883
Ehhh, unlikely, at least to the same extent as she did with the Green Skulls. The green skulls were already well established and large, she just provided spots that could be useful while having a capable mole in the group. With the Slayer card already played, she can't afford to use her in a third group.
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So, I wanted to toss my hat in for designing some Mecha. Is the system base Mekton Zeta or Mekton Zeta Plus?

How much CP should I use for designing a SOUL equivalent Mech?
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>>614277
>Is the system base Mekton Zeta or Mekton Zeta Plus?
Both.
>How much CP should I use for designing a SOUL equivalent Mech?
SOUL mechs seem to be around 300ish but if you want to make some mooks to be part of the tournament the limit is 140 CP.
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>>614098
>Ehhh, unlikely, at least to the same extent as she did with the Green Skulls.
Yeah, I figure she'd more "lose" some bluegills just to irritate us than actually try and stop us seriously.
>>614277
The single most expensive soul mech that we've run across is 360 CP, but that particular setup is extremely sub optimal and got punched to death by a 200ish Kaiser. Twice. Other than that they vary between 240 and 300.
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>>614315
To be fair a good chunk of its cost was spent on stealth and if we didnt have the nonstandard extra officer armour its missiles would have probably made it a lot more threatening.
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>>614315
Wouldn't Rashed's mach be the most costly since it was full of soul parts
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>>614313
Hmm, I wonder what I can make with 140 CP.
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>>614417
Not as much as the excel sheet that I was using promised me. I'm having to take out everything fun because it screwed up the math. I'm extremely annoyed.
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>>614410
It was costly because it not only used a bunch of SOUL tech, but it had 4 melee beam weapons interlinked, with four arms, a shit ton of boosters ina pod, officer armorer, a active shield, and enough weight loss to make it lighter than our mech. Pretty sure that machine is in the 400s.

Which brings up a interesting point; In normal terms, so long as the machine is below 400, it IS possible to make more(since the core book considers 400+ to be a one of a kind hero mech) so while it would not be likely to see a army of slayers to rip apart, Small units of GM Sniper 2 S-Slingers might be a thing.
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>>614417
>>614437
Depends what you're willing to trade off to save on CP.

For instance, to throw out some possibilities, if you're willing to build a mechafighter instead of a humanoid, you'll probably have half the number of servos to purchase and armor, but have less space to mount systems.

If you're willing to mount most of your systems on Command Armor, you'll have a lighter mech that's less likely to get hit, but if you do get hit, you're likely to lose the usage of those systems.

If you're willing to mount all your weapons on lightweight drones, you'll remove a fair amount of weight from your main unit, and likely increase your chance to hit as well, but suffer all the usual drawbacks an RCS would give.

If you're willing to build at 1:5 scale instead of 1:1 scale, you end up with a far more agile machine that is more likely to hit and dodge hits, but have less spaces for actual weapons and other systems.


If you're willing to build a roadstriker-scale mechafighter that mounts most of its systems on Command Armor, and mounts its weapons on docked mekton-scale RCS drones that also mount their weapons on Command Armor...

Well, let's not go there, shall we? That way lies madness.
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>>614537
I think I might just make a small small fragile piece of shit mech and slap on the biggest guns possible just to see what happens.
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>>614547
Pray none of your enemies are running high Blast Radius missile cheese.

Mekton isn't a particularly well balanced system, but no one wins in the munchkin arms race.

That said, if you're set on making the actual smallest piece of shit ever, I might suggest you give it a Magnetic Resonance Lens and take out enemy pilots by zandatsuing their cockpits.
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>>614547
It IS possible to make a pretty decent heavy striker with the price tag. I have done it before, though it would allow for more space. A trick I have done before however, if getting larger legs and removing a kill to give it 2 spaces and lightening it back up. More thruster room that way at a cost of a single CP for each leg.
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>>614592
Wong has various houserules with regard to mech construction. One of them was that you can't remove kills from servos as it ostensibly compromises pilot safety which invalidated all my builds from a while back.
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>>614601
I feel like that might be just for the torso but I might be full of shit.
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>>614601
Mainly for Hero mechs and the like. Aces are a valuable resource, but making the legs a size category bigger just to fit in 3 thrusters per leg isn't that much a issue. Shaving all but 1 kill in each servo, thats a bad idea. Then again, the Cardinal is a odd bird for one of my earliest designs.
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>>614547
16 kills is reasonable damage for a giant gun right?
http://pastebin.com/z8Ax1ZHf
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>>614795
Well, the micromanipulator and storage wouldn't fit the torso since it only has 4 spaces and with the 4 spaces filled with the big ol' gun. Either way, this thing is a gun bigger than anything else and it's the lightest body.
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>>614795
16 kills is fair, but what's the purpose of all those servos if you've only got a Torso-mounted weapon?

Also, consider getting sensors with a longer range so you can take advantage of your weapon's ludicrous range.
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>>614441

Also it could transform from a fighter mode to a "bipedal mech" mode that really didn't qualify as bipedal in any real sense since it was more like a praying mantis sort of body that folds out of a long metal millipede with tank treads.

That's the really expensive part. I wish I could say HOW expensive, but truthfully I modified it several times at the last second so my original count is way off and I never had reason to mess with it again.
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>>614844
They are in the front legs.
>>614851
Gotta put thrusters somewhere. Other possible options for the gun are BV 3 and wide angle hex.
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>>614874
Well, that is sort of why I figured it would be in the 400s, but it would likely be fairer to call it a 500 cp model. It REALLY fits Rashad though. All of it's parts make for great individual machines. A mech with 4 arms and quick weapons? Dangerous. A heavy tank that could become a jet? Useful. Active shields? Great so long as it's not on a critical part like the chest.

But all together and given to Rashad, it's just not that amazing a machine.
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Good night to everyone, how are you today?
Ready to fight untill the end?
>>614874
Hello Wong-sama! are we ready to go?
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>>614874
So, if most competitors in the Tournament are limited to 140 CP, the SOUL Mecha and other Cystoms have a serious advantage, right?

And can we just make Mechs or do we need to make Pilots as well?
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>>614919
Ouch, sorry, forgot to change the name...
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>>614919
Game continues Saturday tomorrow. Today is Friday.
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>>614906
You seem to be firmly intent on not getting hit with that design anyway - why not put them in Command Armor? Throwing on more weight to throw on thrusters to move the weight around doesn't seem like the best way of going about things.

Having the gun be Fragile might also help with weight issues.
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>>614923
Just mechs man. By the sounds of it, the SOUL mechs are not going to be in the arena fighting the mook models.
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>>614931
AAAHHHH I FORGOT!
>.<
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>>614931
In his defense, it's already Saturday in some parts of the world. Though not in Brazil, of course.
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>>614874
Oh and the power level in this setting is at about the level of Zeta, right? Because I really want to make a Nemo equivalent Mech from Saturn.
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>>614934
Mostly because I am lazy and literally just copy pasted a harpy and changed a few things. In my head it cant actually fire the thing properly on the ground without bracing with the extra legs. Also I have a feeling that might end up slightly more expensive for the same effect but I dont know.
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>>614934
Also I dont actually understand how much weight fragile drops.
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Were the state for the standard Morgan or Morgan II ever posted? Because they're not in the Rogue's Gallery Pastebin.
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>>614983
Unless otherwise stated, a system or servo generally weighs in tons the same as half its number of kills. Therefore a Fragile weapon with its kills reduced to one weighs half a ton.
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>>615002
Ooh. That makes sense. Still I'm not too worried about the speed. I just slapped on as many thrusters as I could after I figured out how much the gun cost and its already faster than a harpy. In my mind its just a harpy thats been modified by space rednecks to have a huge gun and go fast.
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>>615031
GOTTA GO FAST
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>>615031
That's fair. As long as it's what you were going for.

>>615155
something something mega heavy torso reduced to 1 kill filled with thrusters

When will we finally introduce the Let's Active Advanced Rule so Stern can kick everyone's ass?
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>>614441
I know that the Morgan II is a heavy striker frame with 5SP armor, while the Warmouth tends to use 6SP.

>>614874
Just wanted to mention that the spreadsheet I was using royally fucked up the Altgraf's point cost somehow. When I went back over it manually, it turned out to be quite a bit more expensive. Here is the hopefully final revision that puts it around the cost of a Master Harpy, and hence 40 points cheaper than the least expensive SOUL mech. Its now firmly in the role of limited production ace unit, and hence unusable for the tourney. http://pastebin.com/TmFxwhjU
Incidentally, does Avalon have any mecha besides the knights and Paladins? I was thinking about creating a lighter Avalonian mecha to compete in the Tourney. Probably with the Avalonian in question using a laughably terrible disguise and repeatedly insisting that he is a "Solar Aborigine".
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>>615182
Ohohoho~

I would love to see that going on... XD
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>>615598
from what we have been told and what we have seen, the only real mech they have are the knights and paladins. They might have a elite knight variant, but it seems like they really don't have the tech or know how to make more unique machines.
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>>615598
Its always a bitch when you have a cool mech put together and then realize you did everything wrong.
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>>615623
They should have their own version of the Shetland for rear area policing. Or maybe a Zudah equivalent that hasn't seen the light of day yet
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>>615615
You would love to see Stern kicking everyone's ass; or you would love to see a 1-ton mech comprising a 1-kill Mega Heavy Torso servo lashed together with 62 CP of thrusters, with a hugeass Fragile Beam Weapon stuck to it with a Weapon Mount and copious amounts of duct tape, controlled via a Saddle Cockpit lawnchair bolted atop it in what would quite possibly be one of the most redneck feats of questionable munchkinnery ever?
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>>615732
I dunno, having smaller machines can lead to trouble considering the harpy being just a civvie mech turned into a fighting machine. It also keeps the force relatively similar. Sure there's the paladins, but everyone else who pilots a knight are likely not blessed by the Goddess and are thus treated 'equally'. It would make creating specialized machines tricky since you don't want the rank and file to get ambitious. If their only mech designer is the Lady as well, thats going to make things worse for their development since making something that outstrips a knight could be heresy.

Keep in mind though, that this is not a bad thing. They seem to pump out a lot of knights and compared to Bluegills and Pumpkinseeds, they can hit pretty hard while taking more abuse. The pumpkinseed 2 may force the Green Lady to change up the design.
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>>615761
BOTH!
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>>615868
Clearly this means you should stat it up and enter it into the tournament. Be the change you want to see in the world! B̶e̶c̶a̶u̶s̶e̶ ̶I̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶b̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶e̶d̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶d̶o̶w̶n̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶a̶c̶t̶u̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶p̶u̶t̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶h̶a̶r̶d̶ ̶n̶u̶m̶b̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶d̶e̶s̶i̶g̶n̶ ̶c̶o̶n̶c̶e̶p̶t̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶w̶a̶d̶a̶y̶s
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>>615866
They do at least seem to bust out a custom weapon every once in a while for people who are good.
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>>614987

Morgans, Morgan IIs, and Warmouths are all fairly old machines that were considered heavy mecha back in their day. Consequently, while they're popular (and last for a long time) most nowadays are so modded up that posting a standardized version would be useless, especially since they tend to be given to officers (who would want a mech tailored to their liking) anyway.

For example, Oda's Osano-Wo started out as a perfectly average Morgan II with a cannon and a melee sidearm of some kind (pic related), and ended up as a samurai mech with a completely different head.

There's at least one other mech that has a sister in this quest in the same manner. It's a Bahamutcorp model, and why they have the same frame makes sense if you think about it.
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>>615969

Naturally I forgot my picture.
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>>615639
Yeah, I realized that I basically faced the choice between increasing the cost so much that it was no longer in contention for the Mook Mecha Tourney, or take out everything I liked about the design. I chose to keep increase in cost, and hope that it will find a niche in the quest as a contender to the Thoroughbred MP.

>>615623
>>615732
I'm now inspired! meet the Chevalier Mecha. A competitor to the Knight class that's in many ways its conceptual opposite. While the Knight was a heavy frame for a mass production model that relied on its armor, the Chevalier is a lighter mecha that relied on high speed an an innovative maneuvering system known as verniers to allow incredible responsiveness by its pilots. Unfortunately, its heavy use of verniers proved to be unstable and it exploded spectacularly during one mock duel with an early Knight frame. This led to the Knight being adopted as the mainstay Avalonian Mecha and for the Chevalier to languish in obscurity. Recently however, the design team has made improvements to the frame, strengthening the structure and removing some of the verniers, and it has begun to see some limited use among minor nobility who wish for a more distinctive mecha.

TL:DR. Its an Avalonian Zudah, complete with exploding during testing.

>>615969
Is the above backstory kosher? I figured having a mecha that blew up due to excessive vernier use would be an amusing reference to you constantly stripping them out of player submitted designs.
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>>608975

I actually thought Phantom Thief K was Karen because she would be interested in stealing pieces from other famous mecha. The Knuckle Kaiser showing up in...I believe I called it Stubby...Stubby the Shetland would get a lot of complaints from angry parents, because normally Stubby doesn't fight anything bigger than a Roadstriker, and is usually catching human-scale criminals with his improbably diverse array of anti-crime equipment and weapons. The Harpies in that show were terrifying, because a Harpy is a full size bigger than a Shetland.

The one time a Bluegill (with ENTHUSIASTIC UJCIDF PATRIOTISM from the pilot) showed up, it was treated practically like a gundam.
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>>615985

I sincerely appreciate the enthusiasm, but please don't independently develop mecha for factions that haven't been fully explored yet. The mecha that are competing in Space Jam are from (primarily) mechbays in the Solar System, independent stuff. Sometimes I have to come close to risking spoilers when people do otherwise, like when Paladinguy went "HEY LOOK I HAVE A MECH NAMED THE PALADIN PILOTED BY A GENETICALLY MODIFIED ALBINO" and I went "gee that's ironic" while looking at my notes for Maria and the Berenger.
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>>616351
Damn. And there goes that idea.
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>>616359
>>616351
Darn. Well, here's the finished version: http://pastebin.com/DRSvzkgF I'll leave the fluff indeterminate for now.
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>>615985
>>616351

Also there's the fact that the Zudah looks like a Bahamutcorp design, it's nowhere close to the Avalon aesthetic of being as ornate as possible with your family heraldry slathered on everything (even Knights are individualized with a crest somewhere even if they've been painted with their commander's heraldry)

Finally, could everyone please try to stick to technology that has already had at least one or two examples in the game already? It's always the goddamn verniers. When I say something is an experimental technology, that means it's an experimental technology, not something readily available to mecha that existed when the Knight was first established. This goes for a lot of the more minmaxy options I've seen.

On the general subject of mook mecha. Yes, there will eventually probably be a Kestrel unique MP mech for officers and mooks, when that happens the group will name it collectively and decide what they want to do with it as a team, then I'll probably be the one to stat it up. Things like the Altgraf are nice because they give me ideas, but inevitably I have to go through the math for all of these, see if they're legit, rip out the usual mass of Verniers and Weight Efficiency they've been saddled with, and undo most optimization stuff. I'd rather have interesting ideas for more unusual mecha than numerical dickwaving in general.
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>>616439
I wouldn't really consider my designs optimized. I figure out what I would consider a neat weapon and backstory, and design the mech around it. Then inevitably rip it apart because I barely understand the system and fucked up somewhere. The closest thing I have to optimization is putting the weight at X9.5 but something like 2/3rds of the mechs you design do that two. Hell, >>616434 could afford another round of verniers and still come under the point limit, but I didn't do that because you've mentioned that you don't like it.
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>>616439
Honestly I think that the Zudah's helmet like head looks kinda ornate and knightish. Which was one reason why I suggested it. Put it in sleeves paint and we'd probably be in business.
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>>616439
In my opinion we should just go the Zaku route, a sold all around basic mech that is easily modular and can be consistently upgraded or transformed into other variations
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>>616489

That part was more to everyone in general, not you specifically. Worry not.
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>>616439
No worries. Even if changed a bit, I'm glad to see my designs used. Really, the tournament will be less dick waving for me, and see if the Dutchman with the giant rock manages to get pass round 1.

>>616314
Fair enough. Kinda thought the SD effect would shrink them abit(like a big guy next to a small guy sorta thing), but Karen being the phantom thief works well too. She would probably get into the whole 'phantom thief gadget' schtick too.
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>>616523
Eh, its another idea that proved unworkable.

>>616572
Nobody's really made one of those though. Its mostly transformable upgunned harpies with tons of Verniers. The Altgraf actually came about as a reaction against the stuff Wong is complaining about, since I decided to make a heavier nontransformable mecha with few if any verniers. Then I figured that I liked the Gebera Tetra Kai, and wanted to make it. A few rounds of modular testing had me jettison more and more features until realizing a math screw up made me chose between dumping my inspiration, and everything I found interesting about the design or moving to a different "Tier." I obviously chose to move to the different tier.

Plus, ultimately, how do you distinguish yourself from the Pumpkinseed or the Bluegrill except through various complicated options? They've already covered the basic modular suit. So I decided to go with a Gunblade blitz knight.

>>616439
>I'd rather have interesting ideas for more unusual mecha than numerical dickwaving in general.
Yeah, me too. The Altgraf was basically an excuse to come up with a bunch of interesting weapon designs for aces at a relatively low point cost. Plus, I just like the Gebera Tetra kai. Not! Cima when?

>>616523
I honestly figured it might look completely different. Its background was inspired by the Zudah, it doesn't have the same armament or the same aesthetic. This is probably closer to what an Avalonian Zudah looks like:
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>>616572

I like this plan.

>>616523

It does look kinda knightish, but in the same way a Gyan does, where it's got hints of knightliness but is still primarily a Zeon-style Mobile Suit.

Avalonian mecha are ridiculously knightly and ornate, and now that we're on /qst/ with the gigantic maximum post size I can describe them better without having to snip out details to get a post to fit.

This, for example, would barely be ornate enough and would be thought of as somewhat inspired by foreign designs, like the Anseis is. You need either ridiculous FSS designs or 40k levels of ornateness to be a big guy mech in Avalon.
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>>616631

It's not so much a mecha combat show or SD related, after looking at my notes. It's more like Nightrider for kids with a self-aware talking Shetland that fights crime and natural disasters.

>>616682

Unworkable implies I won't steal liberally from it. It just looks more like a Bahamutcorp design (and coincidentally the only mech with verniers Roarke has scanned so far this quest, which I'll add to the pastebin now) was a Bahamutcorp mech.
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>>616682
Well, the dutchman was my Zaku attempt way back, but it seems a bunch of my old pastebins died. I'll post it up again, though I planned on giving it hydraulics to boost both it's melee damage and it's loot taking capabilities.
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>>616776
The Zaku is the pinnacle of grunt suit design. We can name the underwater varient the Bluebird and the stealth one the Blackbird
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>>616776

For example, while I'm reading through my notes...Dame Wayland's squad of Knights. I described them as being white with silver trim, but I didn't have room to express that the silver trim forms elaborate patterns across their entire plating, depicting astrological bodies. Dame Wayland herself had a Knight decorated primarily with sunbursts, the subordinate who got beaten down by Garret (who critted with twin-linked heavy autocannons) and Simon had a Knight decorated primarily with moons in various phases, and the three remaining had Knights decorated primarily with wisps of clouds and small stars.

>>616682

Now that is sufficiently knightly.
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>>616439
>When I say something is an experimental technology, that means it's an experimental technology, not something readily available to mecha that existed when the Knight was first established
I feel compelled to point out that in the Chevalier's backstory that its experimental verniers caused it to blow the fuck up under laboratory conditions. That isn't "readily available." On the other hand, it could not have verniers and had blown up for other structural reasons. Maybe it was originally running a hot powerplant.
>>616814
>It's more like Nightrider for kids with a self-aware talking Shetland that fights crime and natural disasters.
I thought it was basically mecha Scooby Doo actually.

>Unworkable implies I won't steal liberally from it.
Now I feel better. Especially since the rest of my design ideas are either dangerously cheesy (tm), or single use. Its surprisingly difficult to create a stealth drone capable of reporting to the Auditorium while watching the trade lanes for merchants.

>It just looks more like a Bahamutcorp design
Its got a gunblade and a heavy shield. I think that's pretty Avalonian. A modern solar design would have a lighter active shield and a beam saber. Unless you mean the visual reference, in which case I plead a lack of good silly mecha designs. There's also this, but it seems more red Siren.
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>>616836
Nah, Zaku II is the Mark I tanks of gundam. The Geara Doga is the pinnacle mook design. Built with limited resources and yet contend with most line mechs of its era.
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>>616952
The ReZeal is when they finally got mass produced transformable mobile suits right. Far too many of the earlier models looked retarded.
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>>615899
I really like how you think, but i need to take some time to study the system first, and i will probably end up with something entirely different of your concept because i will try to do my own ideas instead, but thanks anyway.

>>616880
So, Wong, how is this tourney dispute going to work? All of our mechas are going to nuke it out while we watch or roll dice for them?

I may submit some type of Hussar if life allows me to have enough time to get to it... or i will try to adapt the "Tenshi" to this system, it is my favorite mecha that i made for BLE some time ago.
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>>616880
Hey Wong, which company makes Mecha with the Federation Aesthetic? Like the hard angles and blocky configuration that the GM series and its variants has.
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>>616836
Right, here's the dutchman and it's standard load out. No real abuse of weight efficiency, kept to the zaku spirit, and I'm hoping heavy hydraulics isn't too fancy a modifier.
http://pastebin.com/htUxVrhx
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>>617092
I'd say use throw a bit of the 8 remaining cp into heat hawk and machine gun but besides that looks good
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>>617084

Bucephalus Heavy Industries, moreso now than during the War.
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>>617147
Which company styles theres based on the history of Terran nations?
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>>617109
Well, 2 is already used to get it to 39, though 2 CP to get it to 7 kill base for the heat axe, another 1 to make it fit one hand, and the last bit to get the weight back down might work in that case. Always tricky with modifiers and all the balancing. Those last few cp are much smaller than you think.
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>>616984

Yep, when we get close to tournament time I'll have everyone re-submit their stuff all at once because these threads now last long enough for that, go through them one last time and make sure they're really 140 CP. Then over the course of a few sessions they'll duke it out, probably with you guys rolling dice for them.
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>>617147
And all their Mechs are named after Horses. They made the Morgan and Thoroughbred series and the Shetland, right? Are there any other Mech designs That they've made?
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>>617092

Heavy Hydraulics are perfectly fine, and I do quite like it, but wasn't there a giant boulder or flail weapon it was supposed to have too, or something?
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>>617207
Yup. Thats the manly load out. Got 4 load outs for it, Standard, Ranged, Melee, and MANLY. Manly has the boulder and fists, though I'm showing the Standard one before I rework the others.
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>>617205

Several. They have the Budweiser line of heavy but incredibly slow and clumsy construction mecha, the Garron and Garron II artillery mecha (less common these days because the Morgan II with an artillery setup was just about as good and Morgan IIs could be modified to do a lot of other things as well, plus the Palomino II is almost as effective and a lot cheaper), there's the Palomino which dominated the Medium Striker market until the Pumpkinseed came out, and the fact that the Palomino was still generally more popular than the Pumpkinseed just because most Medium Striker pilots in the UJCIDF already had Palominos and were used to them. That's one of the reasons why Bahamutcorp had to introduce the Pumpkinseed II, which in turn prompted Bucephalus to release the Palomino II, which sort of avoids direct conflict with the Pumpkinseed II by being an all-ranged heay cannon mech that complements the Pumpkinseed II's frontline-friendly design. There was also the Arabian, which was cancelled after furious protest by the Martians at the name
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>>617285
How hard would it be to find a fully made, or at least a blueprint of the Arabian
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>>617297
IIRC, one was stored in a warehouse on Luna.
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>>617297

Much harder than combining your 50 Harpies and 50 Bluegills into Harpy Customs, winged Bluegills that have a base speed of 550mpt and 1100 in jet mode. They also have a head weapon mount so they can use whatever their ranged option is in jet form.
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>>617297
Well, we are planning on raiding a old factory. Could have some good shit in it.
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>>617366

This will keep them relevant once Kestrel-Zakus start being produced.
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>>617374
I just Want to restate, i don't care about our grunt mechs stats or name, Just has to have a Zaku Frame.
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>>617366
Wouldn't a better name for them be "the Erinyes"
Or Furies, Since in greek myth they were the deities in charge of the harpies.
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>>617456
Master harpies weren't exactly a common thing before we came about. Considering they required getting ahold of a bluegill and most pirates used harpies, it was a costly investment. So rather than giving it a fancy name, just call it a Master Harpy.

Sometimes keeping the name simple can say more than a deeper name.
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>>617456
That would work better for the Master Harpies since they're usually the officers
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>>617456
Furies sounds intimidating. To differentiate us against run of the mill pirates.
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>>617492
If you want to keep with Greek Monsters then we could go Chimera (were smashing two mechs together to make one) or Stymphalian (Birds with bronze beaks and feathers
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I dunno, I sort of want to save Chimera for a special sort of assholish machine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H1xUN4N3g8
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>>617523
speaking of Z, I've finally gotten around to playing Z3.2.

Goddamn did they get lazy on some of the animations. most of them look like they're missing like half of their frames.

But they turned the Double X into rape incarnate, so it's all good.
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>>617682
I've been playing OG moon dwellers for a while. Its pretty good and there is a english version so I can understand plot. Z is pretty damn good as well, though the Alpha series is closer to my heart.
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>>617285
Mmmm, excellent. The Percheron is still available.
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>>617475
>>617482

Striker-class Harpies are generally Harpy Customs (although these would be more mass produced), and Medium Striker Harpies are Master Harpies.
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So... just to confirm, we are playing th Mekton Zeta, right? Not the Zeta Plus?

First time bothering to search for the rules >.<
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>>618469
It's the same system. The ATM gives you additional options that follow on from what you get in the Core Rulebook.
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>>617831
How many pilots have beaten the black ogre in the sims
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>>618749
>yfw every time the KK is put in the sims against any credible threat measured thus far, or even any aces, it loses but in reality it crushes all opposition

>inb4 Jesus "I beat you in the Sims"
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>>618846
You cant job if you aren't real.
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>>618749
Wouldn't they need the full specs to give an accurate opponent?
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>>618749
>>618846
Yeah, Jesus totally sims against KK all the time.
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>>618887
They have the older ones that karen released
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>>618887
Probably not the hardest thing to work out. it flies fast, punches hard, has a grapple and exceptionally tough armour.
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>>618947
That grapple happens to be the single best feature of that machine. Fite me.

Will Jesus attempt his patented flying spin kick when not in his mecha?
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>>618954
Think you got your 00s messiah complex mech pilots mixed up anon. At best he'll probably scream stop fighting while stabbing some chick through the cockpit.

Fun thought though, Drop kicks get scarier the further you travel. For every 2 hexes you move it does another kill of damage. There is a means to get a jet pack that can grant you 100 MA for one turn. All drop kicks are aimed at the torso.
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>>619003
Yeah I derped, I hadn't seen the reference for Keith in so long my mind filled in with a bunch of other generic looking brown-haired mecha pilots. I must commit sudoku.
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>>619003
That was the reason why I made that dropkick idea to kill the Paladin. If Shinji dropped down from a mile and a half up he would have done about 33 kills of damage
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>>619016
yes, but thats more a fall than a kick and would require going all the way up first.. which would require surviving the paladin in the meantime. It's the sort of move that you cannot have prep time for and should be very certain you have a plan B. If we are rushing in on a sniper, we may as well drop kick him and not put up with it.
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If Knights can't fly on the surface of the planet as we saw earlier with Amos does that mean the Avalonians are going to build a Manta expy to allow this rather than upgrading their line mecha for atmospheric flight?
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>>619059
They will probably just continue to tank shit and hop around.
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>>619085
I just want Amos to get more frustrated sex with Irina.
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>>619003

However, if I recall correctly there is also an additional penalty levied to attack for traveling at sufficiently high MA.

The Knuckle Kaiser, incidentally, after travelling its full movement and doing a dropkick, now does 11K.
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>>619150
Random question, but how verboten are shadow images? I was thinking of making a suit by a serious Red Siren fan that was taking the tournament as an opportunity to audition for "backup singer"
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>>619176
So... We get to create the pilots too? Not only the mechs? I'm getting ideas now... Is a Storm Dragon Pilot, Ok?
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>>619509
I think just mechs.
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>>619509
Its more that I think up an aesthetic and backstory for the mechs before I design the crunch. Sometimes that includes the pilots.
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Hmm... Thats ok too, well let see what wong say about it, but i think we may oppose the idea of having to deal with many random pilots just because we thought it was going to be cool XD.

Changing the subject of the conversation a little bit...

The Villkiss, would it be an Avalonian, or Jupiter's Mech?
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Slowly, you and the two women creep closer to the building. Marilyn is as quiet as a shadow, and you're not doing too badly yourself...but Irina seems to step on twigs or crunch dry leaves every time she puts her feet down. Eventually, you reach the edge of the woods, and Marilyn pulls out a small pair of military-issue binoculars to examine the church, "No sign of any other sentries." She reports.

You sigh and loosen your sidearm in its holster, and adjust your new swordbelt so that the two blades sit more comfortably in position to draw. That mono-knife could come in pretty handy in close quarters. You're no Caesar, but you're confident enough in your swordsmanship if it comes to it and if, for some reason, you can't just shoot someone.

Truthfully, you're not sure you would have bothered with this if you hadn't seen that the person she'd met had that autorifle. You would have assumed it was just a tryst, and gone fishing instead. No, something about this isn't right, and you're going to find out what.

Halfway to the church, Irina curses, and you hear the sound of leather snapping. She leans down, and comes up holding one of her sandals, examining the broken heel strap ruefully.

"You bought that at the marketplace locally, didn't ya?" Marilyn remarks, without much sympathy.

"At least I wasn't overcharged this time." Irina grumbles in response, "I know they're made cheaply, but they're much cooler in the heat than military boots."

"Weak spirit deserves weak shoes." Marilyn smugly replies, putting her hands in her pockets and leaping up onto a protruding boulder to look down on the scientist

Irina rolls her eyes, "Go cough up a hairball, kitty."

You make it to the door of the church, your pistol in hand, and peer inside.

>[Roll Int+Awareness, 1d10+9]
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Rolled 4 + 9 (1d10 + 9)

>>620855
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Rolled 4 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>620855
Time to prevent a real Cat-astrophy
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Rolled 5 + 9 (1d10 + 9)

>>620855
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Rolled 2 + 9 (1d10 + 9)

>>620855
Damn, wish I caught it quicker. Add 2 luck to help.
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God Irina is going to fuck this up isn't she
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There's a hole in the ceiling of the main chapel, where seeds and spores and water have gotten in. It must have been a grand building once, but now any pews are long since turned to mulch, home to verdant mosses and strange flower-like mushrooms. There's a crater in the floor below the hole in the roof, which looks as though rainwater has been draining into for some time, both from the profusion of greenery around that spot and, as you step close to the edge, the unmistakable sound of running water below.

You don't see the catgirl or the person she met, however, which is strange.

>[Investigate the stairs at the end of the chapel where the elevated altar is at.]
>[Investigate the left wing of the church]
>[Investigate the right wing of the church]
>[Investigate the gallery above the chapel]
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>>620929
>>[Investigate the gallery above the chapel]
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>>620855
I firmly believe that in these situations burning down the building is almost always the best plan. Except in that one movie where burning the house released the curse on the entire world.
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>>620929
>>[Investigate the gallery above the chapel]
High ground helps both in a fight and recon so long as we can get a good look. We are the only one packing a range weapon after all.
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>>620929
You know what? Maybe we should make a call to base that we saw some suspicious dude with a gun out here and we are investigating.
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>>620982
Think we could call an artillery strike on this place?
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>>620997
I'd rather get support or some team rather than something that could end up killing us. Besides, we need information.
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>>620997
Dropping bombs on some random church might be a little much but at least the rest of our guys will know where we were if we go missing.
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>[Investigate the gallery above the chapel]
Good night guys, are you prepared to finally face an elder one? C'mon, we all knew this was going to happen sooner or later...
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>>620997
I don't think so, but maybe we can tell Garret or Simon our location before things get lovercraftian.
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>>621009
Theres probably a way to leave a beacon or at least tell them to hold their fire for 10 minutes while we run away
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>>621123
Never assume we'll be out of here in 10 minutes. If this is a actual rebel base we may not be able to get out in 10. Support and other military, yes, but no artillery.
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You get out your PC, and send a message to both Garret and Simon. You give them your coordinates, and say that if you don't check back in an hour to inform Captain Clearwater of suspected enemy action.

Irina sits down on a chunk of masonry near the main door, wincing and rubbing her foot, "Stupid thistles, why do there have to be so many of them?" She's grabbed a handful of some local plant, though, and is weaving it into a small plait, presumably as a temporary repair for her sandal, "You two go ahead, that floor looks splintery, Why don't I keep an eye out here and message you if anyone else shows up?"

"Are you sure that's safe?" You ask her, hesitating.

She winks, "I'm a big girl, I can handle myself. Besides, I'm not unarmed." She pats the small pistol at her hip.

You head up the stairs to the gallery overlooking the chapel. On one side, nearer to the pit, it's somewhat rotten and collapsed in several places, and very dangerous, but the other side is just a little mossy and has a few breaks in the railing.

You find a small telescope on the edge of one balcony, it's been painted with a design of seashells. A childish thing, but it still works well. That would certainly tell a sentry if someone was coming, since from the gallery they would have easy access to all the windows. Looking out from one of them, you realize that the river is just beyond the church, which overlooks the water where it runs between two steep cliffs. A good place to keep an eye on river traffic too, then.

>[Roll 1d10+9 again]
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Rolled 8 + 9 (1d10 + 9)

>>621150
We can do it
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Rolled 5 + 9 (1d10 + 9)

>>621150
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>>621154
Welp, we probably saw something now.
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You also notice from up here that the altar itself is askew, and there's a gleam of metal at its base. Picking up and adjusting the telescope, you peer through it and see why.

The altar itself is on a pair of metal tracks, and can be pushed to one side. Normally, this would be hard to spot, but whoever went through it last failed to return it completely to its normal position.

>[Check out what's probably a trapdoor beneath the altar]
>[Examine the left wing of the church first]
>[Examine the right wing of the church first]
>[Leave this place at once]
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>>621216
>>[Check out what's probably a trapdoor beneath the altar]
Call for back up before we descend. Don't want to risk it.
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WAIT, LETS THINK THIS TRHOUGH FIRST, DO NOT ACT HARSHLY!
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>>621216
>>[Check out what's probably a trapdoor beneath the altar]
Time to go further down the rabbit hole
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>>621230
We might not have time to let them come over here before they do whatever their planning or at least get done discussing it. We need to keep the element of surprise while we still have it
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>>621242
Tsk... Call for backup and go peak on the trapdoor...
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>>621242
If they were already finishing it up before we arrived, then risky movements will kill us as well. It does not take long to call command and go 'suspicious movement and hidden passage found in old church at coordinates, requesting back up', then descending.
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>>621216
>>621266
>[Check out what's probably a trapdoor beneath the altar]
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>>621273
I thought you wanted to wait for back up before doing anything
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>>621312
No, I made my intent clear. We would have to go down, but we make sure that others know. Irina is here as well and just rushing in heedlessly risks her life as well. Have a fall back plan, assess the situation, then proceed as if they already have 3 ambushes ready. We may have a good gun, but we lack armor and we have no idea what their numbers are.
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What kind of backup do you want to call for? There's a wide range between sending a squad of Pumpkinseeds to having the Cicero itself launch and fire a volley with its onboard batteries on a location.
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>>621394
Probably on the lighter side. Armored support, maybe a pumpkin seed or two with ASP. Nothing that compromises the bases defense, but at least something to make sure we aren't going in alone. Maybe ask Irina's opinion as we do so.
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Also, do you want to bring Irina and/or Marilyn with you, or leave one or both of them behind to keep watch? Since, of the three, you're the only one who's a combatant rather than a technician, they'll defer to you.
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>>621414
And by armored I mean dudes in that power armor.
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>>621456
Leave them together to watch each other, better to have the two non combatants watch each other's backs
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>>621456
That is tricky. I would say Irina at least for stuff that would require exposition and figuring things out. I honestly don't think Marilyn could help diplomatically if the situation is bad.
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>>621476
I would advise against that. We are the one going into a unknown area and Marilyn is a local. If need be she likely knows how to hide. However, anything weird or technical, we WILL need help. Especially if it's a locked door or encrypted data. Support would be coming in anyways.
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>>621485
And three people draw way more attention then one and we know that Irina can't be quiet for the life of her. And just because Marilyn is a local doesn't mean she knows the inside of a secret passage way in an abandoned temple
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>>621498
I said leave Marilyn outside, not bring her with us.
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So the consensus is on bringing your squad (which gives you Garret's gatling Warmouth and Simon's brawling Pumpkinseed II) and some MPs in power armor. You also want to leave Marilyn behind.

Are you bringing Irina?
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>>621556
I say no, if we need technical advice we can send her a picture on our pc
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>>621509
You both have your points... But we are the only combat able here, no? If there is no one in the church it may be safe to bring marylin with us, but ordering her follow us some meters behind, so to if we are ambushed she may be able to escape this or take them by surprise.

And about support?
One or two Pumpkinseed and some power armors may be enough... but have you thought about making the Cicero fire and ambushing the rebels with mechs when they try to escape through the hole? How about this idea?
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>>621556
I say yes for Irina. Never assume that we can handle it on our own or if we'll have a good connection. This is a dungeon and rather than bringing a thief or wizard you decide to only bring the fighter.
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>>621570
Having a battle ship fire their anti ship beam on our position is not a good idea. It draws way too much attention, and has a high chance of killing us.
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Rolled 1 (1d3)

There are three of you active currently. One wants to bring neither, one wants to bring Irina, one wants to bring Marilyn.

1: Bring Neither
2: Bring Irina
3: Bring Marilyn
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“Both of you stay here, I'm going to check this out. Alert me over my PC...” Which you set to vibrate, so it doesn't give away your position, “...If anyone shows up. Call the Cicero, ask them to send my squad and two trucks of MPs over here.”

“Amos, be careful...please.” Irina looks at you nervously, “We don't know what's going on here.”

“Keep your eyes open, big guy. It looks like it's gonna be dark down there. If I hear gunfire, though, no order from you is gonna stop me from saving your ass, so try to be quiet. Meanwhile, I'll protect your girl for you.” The Qu'liri woman grins and gives you a thumbs-up.

You make your way over the mounds of greenery up the stairs, deformed by damp and time, to the altar. As you thought, it's on rollers, the rotted cloth covering it no longer completely concealing them. The rest of this place may be dilapidated, but the metal for these is bright, new, and polished. The tracks must be oiled, too, as the altar slides soundlessly aside at a gentle push to reveal a circular stone well and stone spiral staircase descending into the lightless depths.

You activate the flashlight function of your PC, and descend into the depths preceded by a cone of pallid light. The walls are slimy and damp, and you have to watch your footing on the steps as some of them are outright fuzzy with patches of black moss. Standing, stangnant water splashes beneath the soles of your boots as you descend the final step. At the bottom of the stairwell is a doorway with no door, to a wide, masonry bridge with no adornments and rusty cast-iron handrails. It's not so dark this far down, surprisingly, the hole in the floor is ahead of you, and in here you can see that you're inside the natural vaulted expanse of a great cavern. You see the gleam of pale secondhand sunlight reflected on running water below.

[Continued]
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The bridge winds along the edge of the chasm. You must be heading back towards the treeline, because you can see roots reaching down from above like great, gnarled pillars, their tips clutching the stone. It's eerie, but despite your natural urge to be as quiet as a mouse when you're down here with at least one person who has every reason to hate your guts, and another person with an autorifle, you play the flashlight across the underground river...and for a moment, your heart stops as you see something large and pale move away from the beam. Then you remember that this river probably connects to the one that curls around the town, and it wouldn't be too surprising for there to be catfish here. You can hear the occasional croaking of frogs, so you know they must have plenty to eat. It's just a shame you left your fishing rod with the others.

The bridge eventually leads to another passageway into the earth, the narrower cavern showing clear signs of recent use to make it more accessible. Fresh, new planks and gravel have been inset on the stony slope to form shallow stairs, and from up ahead you can hear the sound of rhythmic voices.

>[Get closer]
>[Turn back]
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Woo finally caught up its great stuff Wong
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>>621771
>>[Get closer]
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>>621773
One more ascends to namefaging!

Welcome Kouhai!
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>>621771
>[Get closer]
Time to solve some mysteries!
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>>621771
>[Get closer]
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>>621771
>>[Get closer]
In for a penny, in for a pound
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>>621771
>>[Get closer]
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>>621771
>>[Get closer]
Really should have brought back up.
>>621773
>Athena's halloween outfit
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>>621771
Get closer, in silence, with one hand on our gun if possible.
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The passage twists and turns. You move quietly, only stopping when the final turn of the corridor presents you with the backs of at least a few dozen Qu'liri. Many are dressed like townies, but others are armed and a few even have the body armor of the Innsmouth guard. There, the passageway widens out, and you can see the glittering of dusty stained glass. It looks like the cavern opens out on the cliffside, where it has been built over and around into a private meditation chamber in the style of a small chapel itself. There is a raised lectern at the far end of the room, where someone is addressing them.

“The wheel of history is a millstone turned by the countless paws of the common man and woman!” Bellows a squeaky but resonant voice.

“The wheel of history is a millstone turned by the countless paws of the common man and woman!” Echoes the audience.

“Brothers and sisters, how long must we suffer in silence!?” Cries out the first voice. As you round the corner, you see that it's...a young girl talking. She can't be more than, what, thirteen? Fourteen? Short, small-hipped, flat-chested. You assume she's Qu'liri from the characteristic ear-projections on the hood of the cloak she's wearing, “For how long have those who view unmodified humans as superior to the genetically altered trampled on us? Oppressed us? We, who they created as slaves for their own lust and entertainment? For how long shall we be silent and let ourselves be punished for their crimes?”

“No more!” “No more!” The crowd chants. They seem to be getting quite worked up.

[Continued]
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>>621895
This is a-paw-ling
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“Have you ever asked yourself during an hour of relaxation, which everyone finds during the day, how long we have been striving for freedom? For greatness? Not only the time since the arrogant Solar System League asserted their dominance over our planet and turned it into a battlefield, but before that, the war of work rebuilding our world and our government from the days when the Confederation ruled and abused us? When they taxed us to the point where our prettiest and most talented were forced to accept genetic modification and whore themselves to keep their families from starving? When they dispensed with even the pretense that we had rights? I say to you, we have been fighting from that moment when, as children, we first thought to ourselves 'I wish things were better'! It is a lifelong struggle, a dream that has cost many lives and will assuredly cost many more, BUT IT IS A DREAM WORTH DREAMING!” The girl pounds her lectern, and the others cheer. “Even if it is a never-ending fight, I say to you that it is a privilege to fight it! We are Qu'liri! Some people will tell you that 'catperson' is a bad word. They'll conjure up images of half-dressed sexkittens with vacant eyes and slutty maids.” She throws off her cloak. Indeed, just as you thought, it's a young girl, a young girl with old, old eyes and traces of crow's feet around them. “My owner, in the days when there were owners, desired a child bride that would never age, so I was subjected to a procedure to stifle my aging process. It interfered with the modifications that made me feline, and this was the result!” Two tails, not one, thrash around behind her, and you can see even from here that she has normal human ears in the normal places as well as a pair of cat ears higher up on her head, “I became a mutant, a freak! I was cast out into the streets to beg and sell what parts of my body I could to survive. As many of you know, I require hearing aids, for I am mostly deaf. I cannot move quickly or without the aid of a cane, because this body has poor balance. I will never know a lover who isn't a filthy pervert, or truly belong to any people or clan, I have no pride, no purity, nothing good and clean that the normies have not tarnished...and yet I would not change this for the world! These stigmata are banners displaying the sins of mankind, and I will hoist them proudly. They think we are toys? Then let us play roughly with them! This is our duty, to change that perception, to remind them of what Species of Terra so aptly pointed out...that the common housecat has the widest dietary and habitat range of any obligate carnivore! We will drown them in blood! We will show these 'normies' that we, not they, are the superior species. Catgirls, catboys of Qu'lir unite! We must never surrender, for it is together that we shall prevail! Long live Qu'lir! Long live our Avalonian allies! Normies must leave!”

>[Stay and listen]
>[Leave, normie]
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>>621895
>>621923
Are we filming this?CAN we film this?
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>>621923
>>[Leave, normie]

Wong, you have a bad habit of making walls of text whenever somebody gives a speech.
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>>621923
You would think the tails would improve her balance. Might be because of her fucked up ears though.
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>>621923
>normies

And I was on board until she said that. Now they have to die before their memery infects the universe at large.

>[Leave, normie]

It's obvious they are planning illegal shit. Sedition or whatever the goddamn word is. That's all we need to know.
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>>621923
>[RUN normie]
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>>621923
>>[Stay and listen]
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>>621923
>[Leave, normie]

>Calls people Normies
>Calls themselves Catgirls and Catboys
Too funny, also Species of Terra seems to be a really popular show
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>>621923
>[Leave, normie]
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>>621923
>[Leave, normie]
God damn, we are dealing with extremists. Reasoning with extremists is a DC 25 task. Record what we could and get back. Hope we have that back up NOW!
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>>621983
>>621923

I'm scared and laughing at the same time.

Congratulations Wong, you wonderful normie.
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>>621995
We can Id their leader without any issue now, I'd chalk this up as a victory already
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>>622001
>We can Id their leader without any issue now
Yeah the cats really out of the bag now.
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>>622021
It won't be till we're at the end of this sordid tail
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>>622029
Let's just hope our curiosity doesn't kill us via cats.
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>>622031
Wow, it would be a Cat-astrophe!
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>>622031
Oh we might not have nine lives but we should be fine
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>>622029
>>622031
Yeah, failing to get this info back to base could be catastrophic for the UJCIDF.
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>>622031
I need you need to brush up on your jokes anon, that one was far from purrfect
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>>622051
>>622046
>>622047
This entire situation, devised by Avalonians is probably the purrfect stor-

>>622056
Imma cut you.
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>>622051
>>622056
BUT! WE ALWAYS LAND ON OUR FEET!
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>>622056
In fact it was pure cat.
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>>622062
Be quicker on the draw anon, your already tailing behind. You just need to be able to whisker something up quickly if you want to claw your way to the top
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>>622075
Something being pure cat means its pure shit. A bit of foreign slang for people of other nations
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>>622094
Learning something new day by day, thank you anon.
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You know what? You're officially spooked. This is just too eerie, this bloodstained speech, this quasi-religious setting. Maybe Bane is wrong, maybe knowing who these people are matters more than what their plan is. You snap a few pictures of the room, of their leader, and start backing away quietly.

"In Avalon, they know their place! The proper order of the galaxy is upheld! Genetically modified individuals are treasured, revered as nobles, as the Avalonians have shown through their kindness and respect. Whereas here, in Jovian territory, a young girl who joins us for the first time tonight has just lost her home to the callous whims of the Jovian invaders." The speaker gestures, and the dark-haired girl that was at the hotel squeezes to the front.

"T-thank you all for acknowledging my complaint. I...I thought that...that considering what some of you have suffered, particularly in Martian-held territories, that what happened to me would be inconsequential..." Her shoulders shake a little.

The four-eared redhead puts a hand on her shoulder, "There are no inconsequential complaints. What happened to you was unforgivable, please, speak as much as you can." She smiles.

The girl looks comforted, "They...they sent some civilian contractor type to the hotel. Um, she was Europan, I recognized her accent. I was educated on Europa, I was studying botanical sciences at the Academy in hopes of creating more efficient crops to help people back here on Qu'lir, but I left before receiving my degree. The humans...the humans either sexualized or mocked me, constantly. I met a boy I liked and some other girl and a bunch of her friends photoshopped me into...into a bunch of pornography videos, and p-people believed it b-b-because you know what they say about us...then they filled my locker with rotten fish. When I complained to the dean, he took their side and had me expelled for 'lewd conduct'." Her ears are low against her skull, tail standing straight up, "So I came home to help my aunt with her business! I gave up on my dream to do what I could back here, and then...and then this blonde hag shows up and treats us like servants, kicks us out of our home to requisition our hotel for military purposes, all with some tough-looking Qu'liri woman they brought along probably to avoid having it look as bad as it did, and some hulking brute from the military who undressed me with his eyes the whole time."

You want to speak in your own defense, but nope, you are getting out of here. Fuck being caught by extremists who were talking about cats being obligate carnivores, there is no way this ends well for you.

>[Roll Reflexes+Stealth, 1d10+13]
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Rolled 7 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>622213
Time to sneak
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Rolled 6 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>622213
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>>622213
>Expelled for 'lewd conduct'
>That picture
Stop making me laugh when were supposed to be serious
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Rolled 8 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>622213
Spending 2 Luck on this.
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>>622219
Well, that is a DC 20 check pass. Think we did better than Moe there.
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>>622213
This whole thing is fucked but i cant stop my laughing or this boner
My body is at war
My mind is in tatters
And its all your fault wong
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>>622319
It's like watching cute people declaring a genocide on their most hated enemies using the most adorable means possible. Its obvious they will attempt it and do it, but damned if it's not adorable.
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Rolled 3 + 13 (1d10 + 13)

>>622213

>>622334

they're humanoid house cats. the only thing greater than their bloodlust is their unintentional cuteness.

They are the purrfect fucking insurgents. nobody's gonna take them seriously until the bombs go off and the knives come out.
We gotta nip this in the bud now or we are completely fucked
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>>622319
wong wronged your wong
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>>622334
More like watching all of your favorite waifus become real only to have them start a organization devoted to killing NEETs, Otaku and the like.
I want to love every one of these poor people but the red haired one is right, i want her because shes broken and i'm a freak.
It hurts my heart because its sad.
It hurts my cock because to much blood is rushing to it.
And this conflict combined with the ridiculousness of the situation is making me laugh.
Wong is a beautiful man isn't he?
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>>622319

I apologize for nothing.
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>>622384
Still, this may be good for us since we found a very real group of extremists, but I think in the same vein the felids are screwed royally. Because of these buggers, high command is probably consider the entire planet a possible insurgant point. That means full withdrawal and taking everything of value, or cracking down and getting to see why this was a bad idea. Avalon would either make them serfs or serve their 'roles' they were designed for. They just decided to try a bloody revolution when one of the big cheeses went 'war is declared'.
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>>622426
neither should you
in fact keep it up
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>>622426
It's been bugging me for a while, but why Mr.Wong?
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>>622430
lets be honest, the cats were fucked the moment the Solar League showed up.
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You quietly, quietly make your way back along the corridor. You're back at the bridge when you hear a sudden, loud thump. Then another thump, dust falling from the ceiling above. Your PC vibrates, and you grab it quickly.

The message is from Garret: 'We're here, bro."

Unfortunately, you're not the only one, loud cries echo from down the corridor you just exited, the redhead fourear's voice rising the loudest, "They've found us, there must be a spy! Quickly, find him, kill him, then...you know what to do!"

You run. Forget being quiet. You run, and when you see figures pursuing you down the bridge, you randomly pop off a few shots and duck as answering fire whizzes past you. The shooting stops when you reach the stairs, and you nearly slip and slam your teeth into the edge of the steps on account of the slimy moss, barely catching yourself in time and scrabbling upward on all fours until you regain your feet and run out into the main church. Irina and Marilyn, the former holding her pistol, are waiting for you.

"Go, go!" You shout. You can't hear footsteps on the stairs behind you, but you're not taking chances, and the three of you run back out into the sunlight where your friends' mecha have landed.

"Yo, Amos! The trucks are stuck because of the woodlands, there's no easy way to get here without flying, want me to shoot this place to splinters?" Heavy metal bolts ratchet back as the Warmouth chambers ammunition from massive drum-magazine pauldrons.

[Continued]
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>>622481
Well they were engineered humans to begin with so their fates didn't look good. Then they manage to claw their way up the posts. Sure there is racism, but I am sure online courses and the like were available and just as good as the real thing. And hey, if they were mostly governed by themselves, they were likely in the clear. BUT NOPE! PROUD FELINE HERITAGE.
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>>622528

Actually no, not [Continued]

>[What do?]
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>>622535
>Have Gareth investigate the cliff side and see if anyone escapes while we hold down the entrance by setting up a kill zone
We need to make sure to capture at least one of them for questioning
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>>622535

"Did any of you bring an epoxy gun? I'd rather we arrest them then kill them all."
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>>622535
I'm no expert on how to deal with insurgents but I am pretty sure we are well within our rights to light this place up.
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>>622535
"Cover the entrance. They're insurgents, so if we can capture them that would be good."
>>622561
We're a democracy dealing with a popular insurgency. We're fucked, because we either compromise our principles and infect our government, or we have no idea how to handle people like this.
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>>622575
I dont know man, the military so far has shown a distinctly no fucks given attitude about cat people. Pretty sure they dont really care about shooting them.
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>>622535
Whooo, first get Irina and the others out of harms way because shit is going down. Simon could likely seal the entrance with his hands. Even with bonuses they would be unable to beat that armor.

Garret needs that ASP working over time to see if they are exiting through any other passages. Tag them, track them, make sure they can't escape. We don't need to kill or seal, just buy time before the APCs comes. Corner them.. like cats cornering mice.
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>>622605
They'll probably try to get the cat people in order with strict rules and executions causing more insurgents. Then they'll just exterminus he planet and be done with these fucking cat people
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>>622575
I highly doubt anyone back home will care about the lives or plights of these people. Plus Jove has already assisted in one genocide already.
>>622535
>light up anything that walks out that door
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>>622630
I'm sure Jesus would take offense to that.
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>>622658
Man were gonna have so much time to make Jesus REE doing the concert
>You know as much as I don't like you I must admit you have good taste. I guess the silver medal is the best thing if you can't get the gold
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>>622620

Which in turn will paint them as a bunch of genocidal fuckers that will make any other genetically modified human, or any human that isn't fanatically devoted to said government immediately join with the Avalonians.

Let's be frank, when an army starts to genocide entire races for the actions of a select group a regular person's first thought is going to be, 'what caused this and when are they coming after me next?'

You want a guerrilla war on multiple planets full of desperate people pretty damn sure that everything and everyone they love is on the goddamn line, cause that's how you get it.
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>>622658
Oh jesus...
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>>622676
Catgirls aren't that well looked upon anon and the Jovians would tell everyone they were all in line with the Avalonians and they had no choice due to how widespread the Avalonians were. And who would know the truth? This is a planet out in the boonies that is mostly just catgirls and Jovian soldiers
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>>622676
You forgot that 1) regular humans have a very poor view of genetically modified people so they wont be that bothered and 2) 2/3 of humanity are dead and the only reason the rest are alive is because they genocided the shit out of the greenmen and the people who stood with them. A lot of people are probably going to be pro genocide.
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>>622676
Depends on how it's done. While there is a chance they would indeed revolt to prevent a 'we're next' situation, there is also the chance of them going the other way around. Calling out anyone who could possibly be a rebel and hoping they show mercy for the good citizens. 'These guys sided with the Avalonians and were killed off completely. We better bloody not side with the avalonians!' After all, guerrilla warfare requires fighting on the same field as the enemy, even if it's on chosen battle grounds. Doesn't really work when they can bring in the MegaBass and nuke the planet, THEN get what they want.
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>>622697

Yeah, and that's still an entire people dead and dust.

I don't care how you spin it people are going to look at that and say that at least the Avalonians will let them live.

It's like the U.S. suddenly bathing the Middle east in nuclear fire for the events of 9/11.

It doesn't matter how much the U.S. says it was justified in it's actions, it still used a nuke, it still killed an entire race of people, and it's still going to make every other government look at them like they're a bunch of trigger happy maniacs.

That's how you get preemptive Invasions and Counter nuking.
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>>622720
Pretty much, and to take it a step further look at what happens when you don't completely genocide your enemy. Look at how much trouble one greenman is causing everybody
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>>622741
There isn't any big government besides Sol and Avalon as far as we know. And this is much more like Rome and Carthage then U.S and the Middle East in the sense of how its populous will perceive it
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>>622741
Another thing to point out is even if people didnt like all the cat killing they still wouldnt join up with avalon because greenmen are literally the devil to them. Hell most of the people alive today probably either saw what the greenman did to people with their own eyes or lost direct family members to them.
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>>622741
they aren't going to nuke the planet. thats more ordinance than this problem deserves.
but if the locals get too rowdy then people are going to start disapearing and villages are going to burn until they calm down
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Not gonna lie, I'm feeling nothing but sympathy for the catpeople. No arousal at all.
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Also, anyone else think that the SSL is trying to pressure the Qu'liri into rebelling so that they can force harsher sanctions on them and start up the sex trade again?
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>>622797
One more thing to say about it. People are much happier about the government killing people when they are actually in danger. Vlad the Impaler is a national hero in Romania because all his impaling brought crime down massively and scared the Ottomans so bad they ran the fuck away.
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>>622834
>This is all so Fairchild can get catgirl slaves
I would believe it
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>>622797
There is another thing to consider; they could simply completely cut off the planet from any form of commerce or support. No flights in or out, and taking nothing from the economy. If this place is a tourist planet, that would likely damn them as they slowly sprawl into decline. Not only that, but information is slow. They could do a complete comm shut down and few in the home sector would know.
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>>622823
Same they didn't ask to be made this way and then were purely taken advantage of
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"Garrett, what do your sensors say about the enemy's position?" You call up to the faceless metal bulk of the Warmouth.

He sounds indignant, "I don't know! There's lifesigns everywhere, an ASP's not as useful on the ground as in space, and there's a limit to what my instruments can penetrate. I guess from all the lifesigns in the river, you might have a new fishing spot. Why don't I just cover the door?"

"Sounds good!" You find a boulder to crouch behind with Marilyn and Irina, "Remember, you two, if someone comes out of there, don't hesitate to shoot. Marilyn, are you alright?"

"Yeah, I'm fine, why wouldn't I be?" She blinks at you.

"There are a few dozen of your people down there talking about drowning the League troops in blood, and they're using you as propaganda, Irina." You remark, making sure your energy pistol is at full power.

"Me!? Why me!?" She scoffs.

"Because of what happened at the hotel." You line up your shot...but nothing is coming through that door yet. "Simon! Go around to the cliff side, stop anyone from escaping from some stupid secret passage that way."

"Right!" His Pumpkinseed II takes off.

"Garret, did you bring an epoxy gun or anything? I'd rather capture these people than kill them." You call out to the Warmouth.

The recessed head of the big mech swivels side-to-side in a negative gesture, "We heard it was an emergency and launched at once. I, uh, I could do paintball rounds, I still have a spare drum of those."

"Paintball rounds from THAT GUN will still kill a human!" Irina snaps.

Marilyn doubles over laughing, "This is exactly what you deserve, Irina, they're probably drawing posters of you kicking cat-eared babies already. Don't worry, Amos, I'm good. These people aren't from my tribe, I'm a soldier of the UJCIDF, and anyone who thinks the Avalonians won't treat the Qu'liri the same way they treat unmodified human peasants is insane."

Time passes. The tension grows. Your gaze stays locked along the line formed by the iron sights of your energy pistol. You could get a scope, but nah, iron sights have always been reliable. Marilyn and Irina do the same, with Garret ready to turn the church to a pile of firewood at a moment's notice. Five minutes roll by, then ten. A bird lands on the end of one of Garrett's gatlings, chirping cheerfully.

You call Simon using your PC, "Do you see anything?"

"N-no, it's just water and trees. Kind of pretty, really." He answers.

You sigh, then perk up as you spot a double column of Jovian troops coming out of the woods, clad in body armor and wielding autorifles and those electrified net-throwers. The leader greets and salutes you, "We'll take it from here, sir. When you get back to the Cicero, Captain Clearwater wants to talk with you. Congratulations, sir, it sounds like you're getting promoted."

"M'still hongry." Whines Marilyn.

[Continued]
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>>622867

That should say powered armor, not body armor, but I think the picture made it obvious already.
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>>622905
How strong is the power armor? Fallout levels or Geist levels?
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>>622834
honestly? No. they wouldn't need to.
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>>622867
Welp, either the lot ran already, committed sudoku, or are going to end up on the wrong end of some power armor. Even with militia, their chances are not going to look good.
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>>622867
Promoted, Again?

So... After the paladin and this... What rank are we now at?
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>>622957
Captain King
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>>622918

It's got human-scale SP of 28 (for reference, a Heavy Energy Pistol does 5d6), adds +4 to Body and 4H to damage (I assume they mean melee damage). It also subtracts 3 points automatically, non-ablative, from any damage that gets through the armor. It has radiation shielding, full life support, a HUD, and is generally awesome except for the somewhat limited operation time.
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>>622979
Yup. Really hate to be a Kitty-Kong right now. Must suck for that one girl. Join a cult only to see them gunned down. Wonder where Bain is though.
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>>622823
>>622834
I'm not exacly aroused either, but whatever.
Sympathy? I think that the whole intromission of the SSL in this planet is very "I NEED TO CONTROL EVERYTHING TO ASSURE MY SURVIVAL" thinking, and i'm still not convinced that the Lady is in the same levels of genocide than the rest of her race, Greenman or no, people are people, and they aren't clones in every aspect.
It could be a conspiracy from Fairchild or someone in the same levels of psychopathy... But the puppeteer could be avalonian too, trying to push the catpeople more to their side by making they clash with SSL.

One thing more, do any of you completely trust the redhead? For all we now she may be manipulating everybody by using her exotic appareance to backup a fabricated sad story.
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>>623020
Not really. The standard practice of any extremist leader is to appeal to as many people as possible, become a symbol, and gain power through your devoted minions. Even if she's a midboss to a Paladin or Bane(or Paladin Bane), gathering power is necessary. And when it comes to methods of tugging at people, it's using emotions to guide them. After all, if they don't think about the problems, they won't disobey. Make them angry, make them fanatical. Make their emotions go to great extremes.
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(((And then Captcha didn't let Wong post for a solid twenty minutes)))

"We'll take it from here, sir." The MP looks at you in your grass and moss-stained uniform. Your hands are pretty banged up from catching yourself on the stairs in the dark, and you're generally pretty grimy, "Operations like this is just what we're for. You're welcome to stick around, go back to the ship, or continue your day off, as you like. You'll be debriefed when you get back to the ship, naturally."

>[Stick around]
>[Go fishing, fuck the nonsense and enjoy your evening]
>[Go back to the ship]
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>>623081
>>[Go back to the ship]
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>>623081
>>[Go back to the ship]
>Pray to Zeus they transfer your squad off this fucking planet
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>>623081
>[Go back to the ship]
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>>623081
>>[Go fishing, fuck the nonsense and enjoy your evening]
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>>623081
>[Go back to the ship]
all the noise probably spooked the fish,
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>>622972
>pic related?
The captain of the ship which clemmy served at promoted himself to this too... It didn't end well...
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>>623081
>>[Go back to the ship]
Knowing our luck we'll find a Kitty-Kong floating down the river.
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>>623081
>[Go back to the ship]
But get food to the girls before going back, or marylin will never shut up about that...
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"Let's go back to the ship, there's no point in putting it off." You sigh, feeling suddenly very tired as the adrenaline ebbs away, "Keep your eye out for a redheaded one with four ears and two tails. She looks like a young girl unless you get a close look at her eyes, but she's the leader and was the one whipping them up into a blood frenzy."

"Four ears and two tails? That's...huh...that's possible, really?" The MP sergeant cocks his head to one side.

Marilyn nods, "It's pretty rare and usually associated with a lot of other health defects. If we're going back, though, that means no dinner for me! What am I supposed to do? Any of you guys have a meal bar?"

"Actually." The Sergeant goes through a pack on his back, "The Captain said he made too much when he was preparing his dinner, and thought that you might like the leftovers." He presents Marilyn with a cheerful little lunchbox with the Captain's initials on them.

She sniffs it, "Fish and rice? He really is sticking to that diet. Thanks, Mister!"

"I guess all of this is sort of my fault, hm?" Irina smiles wryly at you.

"Don't be dumb, Rina." Marilyn points out, as she opens the box and begins digging into the food, "They would have found something to complain about. They always can."

The trip back to the sip feels like it takes less time than it really does. The three of you try to converse a little, but it's short and disjointed and not very profitable. Midway there, Garrett sends you a disappointing message. The MPs stormed the church, followed your instructions to the meeting place, and found everything abandoned, with signs of a controlled explosion they believe was meant to seal off a secret tunnel and prevent pursuers from chasing after the conspirators. Still, that explosion, and the marks of the scattered fire between you and the zealots in the tunnels, proves your story accurate.

Captain Clearwater meets you at the ship. You exchange formal military greetings, before he smiles at Irina, "Mind if I borrow him for a bit?"

"Just give him back unchanged, I like him the way she is." She kisses your cheek, and says quietly, "Tonight, I'm cooking. I'll do my best, but it won't be very fancy. I hope that's alright."

"So long as it's with you, anything's a feast." You reply, wanting to just blow off the debriefing and spend the night with her again...but that's impossible, you both know your duty.

She departs with a spring in her step and some of the gloom from her rather rough day ameliorated, and you, the Captain, and a professional sketch artist from the Innsmouth local law enforcement forces sit down together. You describe the faces of everyone you recognized as best you can, particularly the leader, and spend what feels like hours correcting the sketch artist's drawings. Finally, you're satisfied.

[Continued]
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>>623293
Man, can't wait to see what the local news would say about those character descriptions.

>"Subject is believed to be young, with wrinkles around the eyes, red hair, and both cat ears and human ears. Character specialist Wado Tomakoa describes such traits as Kawaii, but Kowaii.'
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>>623335
>We have an expert on the line who specializes in this sort of thing. Mr.Oda what are your thoughts on this?
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>>623335
>"Kawaii, but Kowaii"
*Uncontrollable laughter*
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You've tried to talk as little about what happened at the hotel as possible, but you can tell the Captain is curious. Finally, he dismisses the sketch artist, waiting for the man to leave before he addresses you seriously.

"About what happened at the Sunny Orchid Hotel...we had a complaint from the owner, and you were mentioned." He chews his lower lip, "I'll be frank, I don't know the first thing about it, who's behind it, who made Irina do it, or why. I'll appreciate if you say you can't tell me something, I don't want to make trouble between you and your woman, but I joined the military and came here because I want to protect the civilians and shelter them from evil." He rubs his temples, "I know it's childish to want to be a Hero of Justice at my age, but at the same time, what's the good in letting your inner child die? What happened there, Amos? Just tell me in your own words, man-to-man. I know that we're the same, you and I, we both care about people even if we're determined to be good soldiers too. You can trust me, and I'd like to think I can trust you, too." He smiles sadly.

>[Tell him in your own words, man to man]
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>>623347
Really though we need to roll in and liberate these fuckers
If Oda ever found out her wouldn't let this stand
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>>623370
They better be paying us some insane amounts of money to come and liberate them from both factions
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>>623361
"Forced buy out. By who and for what purpose I don't know. Frankly, sir if you want to get to the bottom of it I'd use Garret to back channel his father. If its some form of shady dealing by the company or a part of the military, they'll probably close up shop once they realize the planetary chairman is paying attention. Or if you can convince the martians to file a complaint, the fact that they're allies will make it trickier for whoever is doing this to just blow them off."
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>>623361
Something not on the level that may not be military related.
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>>623361
>I honestly don't know but what I do know is that its something above both of our pay grades and was important enough that Irina was nervous about me finding out about it. Thats honestly all I know
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>>623361
they requisitioned the Hotel for "Military Purposes." Owner didn't want to sign, but Irina convinced her. Neither of them where happy about it.
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>>623361
I think you already know what happened sir.
Irina went in and did her job, then we left.
I didn't see anything else and honestly dont know what you'd want from me if i did.
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>>623361
Well Irina told me to stay out of it when we were at the hotel, afterwards she had this awful look on her face and was being self depreciating like she hated herself for what she did, I didn't pry. In that church though I heard the complaint they made about her, that the military was going to requisition the hotel, for what? I don't know. I truly feel bad about how the Qu'liri are being treated.
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>>623431
>>623434
>>623361
"But the thing is, this requisition part i only knew through what the catgirl said, i never read the real contract."
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Honestly? This whole situation hasn't made a lick of sense. We've been getting snippets, but no real information. We saw her talk, but left when she asked us to. Then she had the deed when we returned. We were told nothing, and then the situation with Church happened. It was a bad situation for everyone involved though. The land lady was crying, and Irina was beating herself up for the situation. I do want to help everyone, but something seems off about this as well.
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Side note, got a feeling that the Captain might be Bane. Build and voice seem similar, he did play as the Joker, and he's probably one of the more hammish members of the crew. He'd also have access to the most up to date information.
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>>623522
Captain may be the mastermind behind all this, we should be carefull around him.
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>>623577
It fits a lot of worries. Someone had to know our flight route and the only people who knew of the Supply ship's route was the pilots and staff in the briefing room. With how quick she got there it makes you think she simply speeded off at the start, but what if she was informed BEFORE we were?
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>>623614
JUST like that WELL PLACED AMBUSH in first part pf Amos Quest
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>>623640
Yup. He's friendly, charismatic, and kind of a idiot, but thats great for hiding your intentions. Meanwhile, the squad leader was antagonistic with us and could easily cause you to focus on him. Besides, he would be able to put the Normie haters into the milita with no problem.
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"It sounded like some kind of forced buyout. The hotel was requisitioned for military purposes. The owner didn't want to sign, but Irina convinced her somehow. Neither of them were happy about it, Irina...Irina particularly wasn't feeling alright after it. She said she hated herself, sometimes. I know that she was just following orders, and she had no choice. Even if something shady is going on, which I suspect, I'll defend her to the death."

Matthias' smile is warm and kind. He may be a bit of a goofball, and he probably doesn't have amazing career prospects if he's stuck on Qu'lir, but he's not a bad guy at all in your opinion, "I'm glad. What's the point of a Defense Force that can't defend anyone?"

You nod, "I agree, sir. Frankly, if you want to know...you could consider talking to Garrett, he has connections to his father's office. If this isn't on the level, having the Planetary Chairman on their asses could solve the problem."

The Captain clasps his hands together, "That's a wonderful idea! I want to know who is doing this, and why. After all, I'm out a fair number of credits after today. Ah, that hotel manager, I felt sorry for her and the number she quoted to me didn't seem entirely fair, so...I dipped into my personal savings and family fund a little. I just hope it helped, but when I know who's behind this I'm saddling them with a bill." His smile becomes a bit bitter, "This isn't the first time the military has done something morally questionable. It's funny you mentioned how young the leader seemed, perhaps this is some form of karmic justice for Operation Orange Pekoe."

"Orange Pekoe?" You question.

"Oh, nothing. I'm from a military family, and certain members of it told me a little about it afterwards. Orange Pekoe, it's a type of tea, harkening back to a Terran story about rebels defying a tea tax by disguising themselves as natives and dumping a load of lower-priced foreign tea into the harbor. It was when the War was at its peak, when the brass was desperate enough to employ child soldiers. They raised a team of five, trained for years to be special operatives without mercy or remorse, and set them loose on the Green Men before they turned fifteen. At the end of the War, they dispersed. One of them, the oldest, became Joseph Muragi and continued to hone his piloting skills as a Bluegill ace. One died. Another fell in love with a pilot girl he rescued and abandoned violene to live a peaceful life. One became a devout Reformed Catholic and took orders. One simply vanished. My point is, we can't just rely on our superiors, and I could very well get into trouble for asking too many questions...but I have to ask, because it's up to us, the soldiers, to do the right thing here on the ground."

He gets up and begins to pace, "Why a hotel? What's the point? I mean, there are more than enough rooms on our ships, even with all of those scientists who accompanied the Cassim's Folly."

[Continued]
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>>623682
>One became a devout Reformed Catholic and took orders.
[rejoicing intensifies]
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>>623682
Mother fucker
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>>623682
Roarke's dad past confirmed.
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>>623682
>Another fell in love with a pilot girl he rescued and abandoned violene to live a peaceful life.
WHOO BOY. Thats got some implications.
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>>623682
>Another fell in love with a pilot girl he rescued and abandoned violene to live a peaceful life.

was his last name Young? Is he dead?
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>>623716
Its Roarke's dad man, maybe thats why Fairchild hates him so much, remember, he is the cause that made roarke's mom "Go out of her way".
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>>623716
He didn't die quickly enough if he is. Left one shitty son behind.
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>>623716
Fuck, was his name Starwind?
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>>623682
>One of them, the oldest, became Joseph Muragi and continued to hone his piloting skills as a Bluegill ace.
Ziemowit Stern

>One died.
I got nothing. Maybe Floyd Beck?

>Another fell in love with a pilot girl he rescued and abandoned violene to live a peaceful life.
Roarke's dad.

>One became a devout Reformed Catholic and took orders
Priest dude whose name I always forget

>One simply vanished.
I want to say that this is The Undefeated, but he seems too old and IIRC he said he trained Bluegill Joe.
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>>623727
you know what, your right. thats definitely papa Starwind.
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"At any rate, there's talk of making you and Sergeant Luxol into Lieutenants and Biggs into an Ensign. It was always expected that SOUL would be fast-tracked to the officer ranks, but it seems as though there's now talk of grooming you for command. Like it or not, Amos, you're famous now. There is going to be a lot of weight on your shoulders, but chin up, I know you're strong enough to bear it." He claps you on the shoulder, "As for Asphodel...he might not be under my command for much longer. You shot down the Paladin, but he commanded the operation and participated in the takedown. He'll make Captain for sure, and good for him. I'm proud of how well he's done, even if he can act like a hedgehog with hemorrhoids sometimes. Let's keep that a secret, though, I want to surprise him myself. Go on, I'm sure Irina needs you now." He grins and gives you a thumbs-up.

You make your way to Irina's room. Your room too, now, you realize as you knock and she buzzes you in. You see your military duffle bag on her bed, which means she must have moved your possessions in here.

She's looking out the window at the sunset, with trouble in her eyes. The crimson glow tints her hair scarlet, and makes it look longer and puffier with how it reflects the light...and suddenly, you realize something insane. You've seen her before. Your buddy, Caesar, had a poster of her, and popular rumor confirmed on JNN confirms that Roarke Starwind of the Iron Kestrels has a signed version of the same poster. In profile, with one eye obscured, the resemblance is unmistakable even though they dress so differently.

"Hi Amos." She says, quietly, "I made macaroni and cheese, it's one of the few things I'm good at cooking. I know single-person food for a couple is a little depressing but..."

"It's fine." You respond, "I love macaroni."

She smiles tentatively at you, in a way you can't imagine Red Siren ever smiling, and inwardly you think that you definitely got the sister more to your tastes. She sets out the food at a small folding card-table with a pair of folding stools, and the two of you eat in silence.

"Hey Amos." She says, suddenly, "I think Marilyn might have been right. I know we haven't known each other that long, I know it's sudden, I know I said 'no strings attached' and then promptly tied you up in my business, but...I care about you more than anything else. Will you be mine? I guess what I'm doing is finally asking you out, even if I've been a coward about it. I want to be your girlfriend, is that okay?"

>[Yes]
>[Not right now]
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Please don't tell me the one who disappeared is that top Avalonian Paladin Lori mentioned and/or the who was a defected human.
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>>623777
>>[Yes]
She's a piece of work, but she's a good one.
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>>623777
Yes
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>>623777
>>[Yes]
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>>623777
>>[Wait, i'm not already yours?]
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>>623777
>>>>>>>>[Very Yes]
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>>623777
>[Yes]
I feel like Amos should get a poster of Irina in his cockpit now
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>>623798
Seconding This.
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>>623801
Only wearing a lab coat
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>>623811
You wanted to say
Wearing ONLY a lab coat
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>>623831
Say you wanted:
Lab coat wearing only.
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>>623831
Yes thank you, I got mixed up it's 3 am but I can't sleep
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>>623839
Das ist fine too
>>623840
What only counts is the meaning and love behind it
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>>623868
Y-You Too.
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>>623777

>[Yes]

We'll have to let Cheesburger and Vodka down gently.
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>>623926
Well, Vodka always lacked taste and Cheeseburger was never the same after he was grilled.
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"Wait, I'm not already yours? News to me." You eat the last of your food, and a chocolate-covered mint that makes for a small but tasty dessert. You've been to the restaurant that Irina pocketed the mints from, but that's not something to hold against them, it's good nonetheless.

She scowls, "Don't make fun of me when I'm being serious."

You reach across the table, take her hands, and look into her eyes. Her fingers feel small and fragile in your hands, "So am I. Yes. I want to be your boyfriend, and I guess I can be a little clingy too, since I've thought of you as my woman ever since our first night together."

Her eyes are abruptly damp, "Amos..."

"Irina..." You stand up, push the table to one side, and take her into your arms, "You can be a real piece of work, but I love you for it."

Vaguely, you think you hear the sound of footsteps running away from the unlocked door, but you're much too happy to care.
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>>623979
Let's hope this lesbian who was easedropping doesn't turn into Fairchild 2 the REEEEEEhash.
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>>623990

We really need to find a way to nip that in the bud before it becomes a problem.
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>>622673

This would probably end well for you because Jesus would be contractually obligated to try and break Roarke's arm, and then Roarke would break Jesus.
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>>624005
>>623979
Add the lesbian to our Haram
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>>624011
>Jesus tries to break Roarke's arm
>it looks like a scene in a cartoon where a character tries to open something trivial but it is an impossible task, like a pickle jar
>Roarke flexes his arm and Jesus' fingers break

Poor Jesus never lifts.
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>>624011
I am just picturing Jesus throwing everything into a punch to hit, but Roarke just smiles at the free ticket to beating the pussy out of the boy. Also the blood, bones, gray matter, soul, and teeth.

>>624016
No. Important rule in life, don't stick your dick into crazy.
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>>624016

Lesbians do not work that way.
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>>624016
>Haram
But we're not Muslim
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>>624011
if the boy had an ounce of cool in him, he would say that he went for the new model over the old and busted one.
Roarke would still break him in half, but he could claim a moral victory
>>624016
Harem mans in another galaxy, and the harems full at the moment.
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>>624032
It works like that
IF you are famous/rich with FILTHY at the Rich part. We have a bit of the first one but NONE of the other one
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>>624031

Yeah Jesus doesn't need a brightslap, he needs a Bright Beating.

Honestly once we beat the bitch out of him he might actually become a competent pilot.

Then the little shit might actually be a challenge.
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>>624032
Gays work like that
What make Lesbians so special
God Dykes in this quest are the fucking worst
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Well... Guys, i guess thats it for me tonight.

>>624032
Thanks for running Wong, see you next time.
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>>624044
>if the boy had an ounce of cool in him, he would say that he went for the new model over the old and busted one.
>Roarke would still break him in half, but he could claim a moral victory

>implying Roarke wouldn't shoot back how he has been dismantling SOUL and their newfangled machines with his older one
>just like how Red Siren has been doing to literally all competitors

It becomes a two-pronged verbal assault.
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>>624046
we stole her sempai, namefag. she is contractually obligated by the rules of anime to hate our guts and be passive aggressive about it until we bond over burgers or some shit.
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Incidentally, I feel like even if I haven't mentioned it before, I've implied it, but it could be easy to miss. Amos with his Body 10 is actually even more of a big guy than Jiron from Xabungle. Amos Wedge sort of towers over everyone, much like Oda and Richard do over in the Belt.
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>>624050
Ya what mate? I wouldn't join some chick's harem, especially if I hated her guts.
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>>624053

Maybe we can find her a date?

There's got to be someone who can rock this girl's world to the point where she'll leave us alone.
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>>624053
Hambarga and Glory
>>624059
So he have a DOMinating Pose?
>>624071
This one
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>>624071
Send her to Jupiter. Wouldn't take her long to find a certain Admiral. All she needs to here is 'single' and 'I hate that man' and she'd be right over her.
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>>624084
Is it not like a giving a nuke to terrorists?
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>>624084
come on man, we want to HELP the girl, not traumatize her.
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>>624085
more like giving a chicken to a puma.
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>>624085
Not really. Unlike Roarke, Amos is both a SOUL member and a proud Jovian who defeated a Paladin. He's probably one of the most useful pawns she could have. She'd just smooze and say she totally gets her.

>>624092
Sometimes you have to burn the cancer out of someone.
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>>624071
lessee... who do we know who's unattached...
Marilyn
and uh... who else?
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>>624084

I said rock her world not break her soul.

>>624103

Not sure if she's into girls, put her on the maybe pile.

We need a sure fire bet though...

We need to talk to some more people around here.
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>>624103
there is only one solution: we gotta man up and fly wing.
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>>624092
See i am more of the opinion that we need to put a bullet in the back of her head, before we smash her teeth out, cut off her hands, and dump her in the ocean. We stole this womans romantic interest in an Anime setting, so we should be Very worried
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last post before going to sleep...

Now that we already played as two jovian soldiers... What about playing as someone from the other side? Are you guys cool with it or just uninterested?
it could turn dramatic if we'd go against some NPC we know or something...
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>>624114
It could be cool but honestly I want to get back to Roarke. Caesar and Amos have been really cool though.
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>>624119
I feel the same anon
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>>624114
away with ye, monarchist!

I'm all for it, but that may be too much side content at ounce.
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>>624119
Yeah, I want to move things along and get to see some stuff reach fruition.
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>>624114

Kaworu knight sent to save his fellow paladin on some backwater world populated by cat people.

Meeting Simon on the battlefield piloting the 'Not Eva unit 1'.

Becoming infatuated with his battle prowess and carnage.

The whole mission becoming a split between saving his fellow paladin, aiding the Kawaii Terrorist Movement and getting in that brutal pilot's business because /By the Fucking Lady that was hot./
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>>624128
If we do anymore side stuff I would rather it be Roarke related. Like a thread about all the kestrals having a day off where we follow some of them and go through an average day in their lives
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>>624031

Roarke could casually take his gloves off with Jesus hitting him as hard as he wanted and then proceed to beat Jesus into a pulp, because something I only just learned when I was looking up the stats for power armor is that Roarke's jacket has a decent SP rating, and presumably the rest of his clothes do too now that he's a pirate admiral who can afford bulletproof blue jeans. Mesh armor, the kind that's xeno tech in Dark Heresy, is apparently popular and frankly I'm quite okay with that because it means bulletproof leather jackets and bullet proof leather jackets are the best.

>>624046

No, what happens in that scenario is that the lesbian parasitizes off you and endures the fact that you're cucking her to try and get at her real target so she can cuck you. You can't get a girl who is fundamentally not attracted to you, man, it's just not a good idea.

>>624050

I wasn't aware that they worked like that. Besides, obviously a man can add another man to his harem if that dude is into dudes, but if that dude wasn't into dudes it would be a no go. Much to the despair of the many Roarkehammed holonet fansites.

>>624102

This is a good point. He may be outside her immediate reach and unfortunately not in SOUL B, but Fairchild has literally no reason to dislike Amos. Caesar has managed to piss her off substantially more just by slaughtering Green Skulls alongside the Osano-Wo and showing up in the resulting nAVIgator video. Amos, meanwhile, has independently won fame for the UJCIDF, has turned Roarke beating a Paladin into something less shameful for the UJCIDF by doing it himself, and has never stolen the heart of anyone she's wanted to sleep with (can you imagine her enjoying Irina's usual attitude at all?). Most importantly, and this is something that came about as a result of your decisions and not any preplanning on my part, while Caesar knows the UJCIDF is doing some shady stuff and is willing to bend the rules, so far Amos has kept his nose very clean and stuck within his paygrade, which to Fairchild makes him a better SOULdier than most of the others. Whether this lasts after she meets him is a different story.

>>624103

Marilyn has a few different romantic prospects, actually. Amos was a potential one, but she's also happy being a bro to him and Irina. I wonder if anyone can guess the others? The main one would probably surprise you, though.

>>624110
>>624111

Discussing this is, of course, a wise thing to do.

>>624114
>it could turn dramatic if we'd go against some NPC we know or something...

Don't worry about that, Mohammed versus Caesar in Ladbowl was just the beginning.

>>624119

Next thread is Roarke. Which will be...hm, I'm staying up for a while, so let me think about what day I'll run it on. Generally, when I'm switching characters, the interval between sessions will be shorter because I'll have built up notes for the other plotlines meanwhile.
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>>624059
Huh. Thats neat. Well, considering no <continue> from that last post, whens the next session?
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>>624138

The final boss of that plotline would be Sergeant Nedermeyer.
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>>624138
Knight pilot Kaworu and Simon shoot each other down in the middle of nowhere, have to work together to survive while being hunted by the locals who want them both dead.
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>>624148
slow to the draw once more. Herpaderpa.
>>624151
..man you are tempting me in the weirdest ways right now. Just seeing Kaworu trying the gay piano scene would be something just because a Paladin is trying to keep his cool.
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>>624151

Brutal two way battle between the two of them.

Bitter enemies, not just because of their loyalties but because of Simon's affection.

Gurren Lagaan style hotblooded duel because neither will back down.

Accidental bonding over mutual determination and hotbloodedness.

Agree that if both survive the war they might consider sharing Simon, maybe, a very very small maybe.

Simon having no say in this.
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Kaworu is confirmed for showing up at some point.
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>>624179

It just needs Garret perpetually laughing and making smug faces in the background and refusing to let Amos interfere.
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>>624179
the only way that could possibly end is with a fistfight on top of Nedermeyer's Palomino.
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>>624196
The EVA is just sitting on the side line like some maiden as Garret is laughing his ass off. Probably with Kaworu saying lines such as 'sullying his pure maiden heart'
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>>624146
Well, it helps that Amos is pretty much the Ur farm boy everyman. Friendly, willing to help, sticks up for his fellows, and the times he disregarded orders were usually rather heroic. He's a PR team's dream since they don't need to gussy him up. He's also a lot easier to approach than Jesus since while he might not like war, he'd still fight to protect those under his care while keeping pretty modest.
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>>624219

Considering Simon flies Bahamutcorp mecha the "beautiful tropical fish" line could definitely be used.
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>>624264

Now that I think about it, it probably also helps that he's dating his mech's inventor. That kind of stuff is PR gold, and all they have to do is not show her bullying Bucephalus pilots.

You know, I never really thought it would be the Pumpkinseed II that made it big, but I'm glad it was this one, I've always liked the Gyan.
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>>624317
how long until Irina realizes the parallels between their relationship and Rosita's
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Next session will be Wednesday. Incidentally, this thread is remarkably hard to summarize, so I might as well just use lyrics from Les Miserables because we definitely heard the people sing, singing the song of angry cats.
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>>624333

Irina would be smug that she figured out who she wanted and caught him much quicker than Rosita did.
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>>624334
At least your not going for the low hanging fruit
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>>624334
>attempts to negotiate with the rebels have been met with the angry hissing of large cats. analyst don't know what to make of it.
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>>624344
not her current one, the one that cost her the eye.
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>>624354

Hm, what parallels do you mean, then? Aside from the whole technician and pilot thing.
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>>624384
>>624354
>>624344
I see the technician and pilot parallel, but ALSO the public showy pairing parallel. Irina is just lucky to have them both in one guy. Which is just all the more smug.
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Couple of things I want to say about this thread
1) I find it funny that both Red and Roarke have siblings who have turned out to work on soul mecha
2) I can't help but feel that everyone jumping to Roarke's Dad being one of engineered Soldiers is wrong and its actually Jesus's who comes from that stock, his parentage was eluded to be special by Fairchild in the last thread she was in
3) I want to see Red and Irina have a "boyfriend" waving competition at some point in the future
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Ok, Marilyn's romantic prospects are narrowed down to either Captain Clearwater or Lieutenant Asphodel. Clearwater because they can follow each others line of thought. Asphodel because he's actually a pretty okay dude who had a sour 1st experience of SOUL frm Jesus.
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>>616351
>"HEY LOOK"

To defend myself: I came up with that crap BEFORE anything about Avalon was revealed at all. I'm just psychic, apparently. Or psychotic. I forget the differences.
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>>624503
I'm sure Roarke and Amos would get along rather well if you stripped them of their pirate and military dog statuses.
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>>625057
Is there ANY between those two?
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>>624503
The wedding would be when it happens, we just have to convince Red to invite her
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>>624346
>Local police forces have resorted to using water hoses to subdue the natives with large success. Spritzers have been used on occassion. Innsmouth rebel respond that such acts are horrible torture.

>>624305
It'd be a lovely speech full of phrases like 'My glorious sunfish' or 'my sweet angelfish' while talking about things such as hand holding and kissing his cheek like they were the lewdest things possible because he heard it from the ancient logs of chan.
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>>624119
>>624128
>>624138
>>624122
I was not talking about going avalonian right now, i miss roarke too, but it would be cool to play it in 10 or so episodes from now, we have too much to do now with roarke and i can't wait to play the Tourney/Concert Arc.

So... how much competitors do we already have?I can't wait to see our designs nuking it out with each other!XD

Do the winner get to join the kestrels or somethig?
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>>625102
Anon, this is a family thread, its no place to your hand-holding disguting lewdness.
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>>625102
>because he heard it from the ancient logs of chan
Probably less 4chan and more just the incredible chasteness of the code of chivalry
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>>625113
The plan is to recruit anyone that we view as good enough to be a Kestrel. Aces and grunts alike
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>>625122
>BR Anon in the cel.
Would you recruit Bruce "The last Aussie" Kelly , Senpai?
Or do you fear the violation and dodooposting?
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>>625196
As soon as we finish breaking that rock I want Roarke to go and recruit him after beating his ass
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>>624344
Would she grudgingly admit that the music box was a nice touch though?
Heck, I can see Red Siren boasting about it on JNN
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>>624179
This level of shipping amazes me, its already almost fanfic level
>>624196
>Garrett is still best boy of all this.
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>>625211
Nah, this is no where near fanfic level just yet. For one it doesn't take itself seriously. Besides, considering their original sources they sort of are the best choices for shinji/Simon. Kaworu cared for him emotion wise and treated him well and the pilot of Gunbuster would get him out of his shell without treating him like trash. Kinda depressing when you consider that the one is a dude and eldritch being and the other isn't even in the same universe.
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>>625211
>>625241
So next chapter will be called:
SHIPPING WARS
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>>625241
Hmmm... Yeah, you are right, it is kinda depressing, but i am still rooting for kaworu to you, even if i still haven't seen Gunbuster.
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>>625113
Well, I developed at least 4 on my own that are 140 and below. Remember a bunch of other ones as well. Should have about 8 or so, with some spares lying around.
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>>625549
Oh boy this is gonna be good.
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>>625549
I may be developing one that uses a bunch of MV penalty options as a joke.
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>>625672
Might have to dig up some of the older paste bins if Wong does not have the data. Some may be expired, but they had things like the Z'gok and aquatic zeon mechs. Besides, I'm sure there would be some pumpkin seeds and bluegills in on this as well, so it won't be so bad.

>>625738
Man, you are late for that party. The original Roc design had -1 MV before Wong fixed it up.
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>>625755
>Man, you are late for that party. The original Roc design had -1 MV before Wong fixed it up.
No, MV penalties. Like undercharged powerplants and clumsy weapons.
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>>625755
VERNIERS?
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>>625866
You could make some joke mech like the boss borot or one of the many zeon prototypes they made.

>>625890
Verniers and a overcharged power plant.
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>>625906
I was thinking the Baund Doc actually. Let !not Jerid show how good he is.
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>>625549
I made 4 that actually have good maths and 2 that may or may not actually fit the rules but if they do the maths are alright there as well. I hope anyway.
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>>628593
are you the guy that made the goon and jaburo aquatic zeonic mechs?
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>>628600
Yes. I am almost certain that all of the early ones have terrible maths and dont work except for the Not-Z'gok. The newer ones with bird names should be less retarded.

I also did the Gyan Krieger.
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>>628603
Well thats going to be awkward when Amos gets his, but it'll be nice to see how things go. Think my next project will be a Zaku tank. Be sure to put the paste bins up and refresh them. Seems they get taken down after a while if you are anon.
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>>628604
I got all the non stupid ones at least and thats what matters.
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Guys, can you help me out a little? Where is Weight Efficiency? And do i calculate the "Lift Points" after or before apllying weight efficiency?
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>>628616
Weight Efficiency is 2 cp per Ton. Because of Wong's house rules though, weight efficiency does not effect the actual 'weight' when it comes to lift. Because that can lead to some silly paths.
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>>628616
Ctrl and f also works for finding shit on Adobe reader if you are looking for something specific.
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>>628617
>>628622
Ah, thanks guys, lesson learned.
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And here is the Hussar from BLE:
http://pastebin.com/bqjexP0C

I tried to make it as simples as possible, because it is based on one of the more versatile and generic robots of that game... But i didn't read everything on the Mekton Plus yet, so it may be underpowered.

Any opinions? Is it trash?
(The sword is a copy-paste form the pumpkinseed II one, is it okay?)
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>>628791
Seems alright to me. I dont fully understand the rules myself but it seems to be pretty tanky with good offence for the price range. Could probably benefit from having a shield, but I fully understand the appeal of spending the points on being bigger and more powerful.
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>>628791
Pretty simple, but the numbers add up right. Gave me inspiration for a tweek with the Dutchman. Rather than making it's weapons more killy, the next batch design would be to help it's modularity and to speed up repairs both on and off the battlefield.
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>>628832
>>628968
http://pastebin.com/qBXNMGDw
This is the first try with the Walkure.

But i gotta admit, i'm not certain if we are able to link Servos... So, Do it only work with systems?

Well, if things are working as i intended, this mech should be able to do 8 punchs per turn like the Kaiser, no? And the damage is based on the servo, right? So... 7K?
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>>629025
it normally links with weapons, but that includes hands and feat. Thing is, those fists are going to be doing 2k each. 1 from the fists, +1 from being medium weight. If it was a light heavy it would be 3. Fists require you to strengthen them like a normal weapon if you decide to use them.
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>>629025
>>629075
Yeah you would have to fiddle around with it a bit to get the fists to work. You could give it 2K hands and still fit the CP limit so you would be hitting for 3K. Which might not seem like a huge amount but its as strong as a medium beam gun and it throws out 8 of them to the guns 2. Only problem then is that it is over 39.5 tons. If you could drop 2 CP from something else you could fit it though.
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>>629248
It's the tricky thing when it comes to weight, space and Budget. Small ammounts add up fast since each space reduction is 0.5 CP and each ton removed is 2. The main issue is that against any enemy with Beta class armor, you are going to do zero damage to them, even with a bevy of hits.
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>>629248
Actually disregard that. It would be better to get light heavy arms because it would be cheaper and you would have 2 CP left over to bring down the weight.

Although if you really wanted to min-max you could get the basic anti theft lock and replace your hands with a 1K, handy, quick, +1 WA weapon for more accurate punches. Or if you wanted to be goofy 1K, handy, quick returning weapon for fucking rocket punches with 200m range.
>>629292
Guess you just have to hope you dont run out of missile when you meet them.
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>>629335
looking at the blueprints, his arms are as big as they'll get. Thats a heavy striker body with mid weight arms. If I recall you can only go up 1 size category with servos from the torso aside from legs.
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>>629362
Shit your right. Then the thing to do would be to drop the size of the arms to Heavy Striker since that gives the same bonus and go with 2k hands I think.
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>>629381
I think that i messed up the cost of the interservo link... When i get home i'm gonna give a look at the weapon making system and compare the costs of making a handy quick weapon
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>>629390
Rule of thumbs for servo links is that it's 3 for a range weapon, 4 for them to hit the same thing, and 7 for melee. If it's more than two, multiply it by the amount minus 1.
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>>629390
>>629398
You can link them for 6 CP but instead of all hitting the one thing they will hit random servos. I think anyway.
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>>629401
Don't think that works for melee since by their nature you aim with them and don't hit randomly. Would be like having one normal hand and one weird crazy hand that flails about.
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>>629401
But can i link Hands?Or do i have to get systems? And with "2k hands" Are you talking about Claws?
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>>629412
Hands can be linked like any other weapon since they are melee weapons with the 'handy' trait. Doesn't need to be claws either since the advance guide can make them any size at a 1.25 modifier.
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>>629407
>MElEE WEAPON LINK Cross-
Links two or more melee weapons and/or EMWs (as long as they are not automated). The intricacies of synchronizing close-combat attacks make this system twice as expensive as normal Weapons Linkage. If the systems are not Cross-Linked, the cost is only 3 CPs.
>If the systems are not Cross-Linked, the cost is only 3 CPs.
Seems like you can have them hit random shit to me.
>>629412
If you take a regular 2K melee weapon and give it handy and quick it ends up being the same as claws for sightly cheaper.
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>>629430
Wait... So i was wrong and the Link costs only 3CP?
How much would it cost?Would the weight increase be significant?
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>>629444
Same servos they cost 3 for melee. Different ones double it and for them to hit together its 1 more. Thats 7 CP.
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>>629444
Well it depends, if you want all eight hits to hit the one place you need 1 more CP, if you want them to hit randomly it would cost 1 less CP to my understanding.

For the hands together they would cost 6 CP and weigh 2 tons but since they would be replacing your normal hands they would only bring it by one ton.
>>629460
Thats if you cross link them though if you dont cross link them the Interservo link costs 2 and the Melee weapon link costs 3.
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>>629473
You can also only have one hand per arm, so you would still need to cross servo since there would be no other hand to interservo with.
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So... 7 points is needed for 8 Hits in the same place? Hm...I'm thinking in taking the missiles always... But the concept was to it be a Storm Dragon's mecha, and the missiles to be "MY SECRET TECHNIQUE: ZA WARUDO!"...

Hmmm... You guys have nothing to coment on the Head and Sensors? It was one of my strategies to surprise/misdirect the oponent.
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>>629487
The names are a bit off I think. Interservo link joins things from two different servos and cross link just makes the things you link all aim for the same target.
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>>629515
Thought that was a typo honestly. There is a reason why main sensors aren't put on the torso, since the arms and stuff get in the way of seeing things so it gives a penalty. Besides, defeats the point of a back up sensor if they are in the same servo.
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>>629507
They will suffer a penalty to awareness but I honestly have no idea what that effects beyond spotting guys in stealth. Maybe stick the back ups in the head just to make it visually look like the main ones are in the head?
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>>629515
Okay...So as i remember, Interservo costs 3 points... How much does crosslink costs?I not with the book right now.

The Weight is still a problem if i try to change the hands though...
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>>629528
That's exactly what i thought, but... Why bother to put the backup in the head if most enemies don't have ASP? IC, they will probably automatic assume that the mais sensors are in the head and focus on that if the combat is non-letal intended, so, i just have to shoot the missile before they screw it up.
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>>629543
Interservo costs 3 points and that includes cross linking in the price. If you dont want them cross linked they cost 2. But if I was you I would drop your arms to heavy striker since they give the same bonus damage to melee and also lower the weight and give you enough CP to get the proper all attacks hit the same target link. I think it should come to 137 CP.
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>>629568
So...instead of 6 it costs 3? And by droping to Heavy Striker i gain 1CP back, and thats get the weight down by 0.5, and if i get claws i pay 2 CP and get 1 Weight? So... 134 CP? With 2k+1 Damage?
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>>629568
I could also get the range of the missiles down... It would cut the CP down a little.
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>>629586
Interservo will cost 3 and melee weapon link will cost 4 so 7 altogether.

You get 2 back and drop the weight by a ton since you have two arms.

Looking at it now if you ditch the back up sensor and give yourself heavy striker arms you can bring up the damage of your fists to 3 kills +1 from the arms to let you punch for 4K and it should cost 138 CP and weigh 39.5 tons
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>>629595
Oh boy this is looking even cooler now, this may be the begining to Roarke's kouhai... Ignoring the missiles.
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>>629606
http://pastebin.com/yQpwvt9e
I think this is right at least. You are going to have to make the arm missiles handheld though because I completely forgot the hands would take up space.
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>>629635
I can change them to the torso or to the legs, no problem.
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>>629645
Just remember to move the thrusters if you stick them in the legs.
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>>629685
>http://pastebin.com/yQpwvt9e
Back Home, gonna check your math right now, but by the quick look i already gave to it, i think it is okay.
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>>629685
Heavy Striker L. Arm: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons.
Heavy Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons.
Heavy Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons.
Heavy Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons.

Shoudn't it be 3 tons each? Why not?
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>>629945
Medium weight is 3 tons, heavy striker is 2.5. Thats what it says on the table anyway.
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>>629991
Ok, i changed things i little bit, going step-to-step to modifications.
http://pastebin.com/qBXNMGDw
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Yeah, you are right anon, if think thats it, so, it causes 8 punchs per turn, 4K each?

Not bad.
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>>630047
Better than a kick in the teeth.

This bit of late night mech building has inspired me to make my own Kaiser knockoff before I go to bed.
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>>630071
Hahahahaha, good luck with it bro!

While you are at it, i'm trying to tweak around with the missile pods to make them into one stronger and cheaper pack.
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>>630071
I ADJUSTED THE MISSILES

NOW IT PUNCHES 8 TIMES 5K!!!
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The last one of this night, this is the Tenshi, it is based on the concept of one of my homemade mechs for BLE, and it is obviously a mook mech.

http://pastebin.com/ZgicMNZf

If you guys are in doubt about in what its weapon is based on... It is based on that sword-thing from Mahouka, yes, the one who divides in two and beats the meat out of people even when its user is behind a shield.
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Mecha Space Pirate quest is the last quest that keeps me on this mortal plane
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>>631368
I have to agree with you, this quest is truly legendary.
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>>631408
There were some nice Shin Megami Tensei ones, but now only MSP quest is related to my interests
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>>631415
No SMT fan, i assume?
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>>631421
There WERE now there is NONE. And thats UPSETS me as a FAN.
If you don't know SMT you can look at the older games with fan translations, SMT wiki or the /tg/ archive and look at some really nice SMT/Persona quests of old
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>>631425
Oh, okay, now i undestand.
I never played any of the games, but i had some friends who wouldn't shut up about it, so i guess it has to be somewhat interesting.

But, on another note, what are your favorite things about this quest?
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>>631436
The fancy mix of person from different settings that FITS really well, like some sort of well tailored suit, the majestic story from the rock bottom to the top dog rank, delicious fun that it brings to my hearth and many many more

Oh and Face punchin
yep, face punching is good
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>>631442
>Oh and Face punchin
>yep, face punching is good

XD

I have problems in putting into words the eaxct reason to why i keep going back here week after week, but your explanation really hits the mark, its a mix of things that fits really well, and the amazing storytteling wordcraft of master wong, that keeps everything together without falling apart.
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>>631481
A place where a BR-anon and PL-anon can be friends, enjoy mecha, good fight, well played plot and nice PLOT

And still it would be nice if we would get some characters in this quest froms eries liek Votoms, Layzner and Vifam
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I'm a huge SMT fan care to reccomend me the quest names?
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>>631554
Persona 2129
Task Force 666
Devil Summoner London

Those are only ones I know
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>>631554
>>631558
Also
>Persona 2129 [Cancelled]
>Task Force 666 [On hiatus because real life]
>Devil Summoner London [Complete]

The QM of both TF666 and DSL is running another SMT/Persona quest on SufficientVelocity, a spinoff of some writefagging from Persona 2129 called Persona 2041: The Long War
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>>631554
>>631558
>>631564
Bro bro bro thank you for the info abou P:2041
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>>631511
Yeah, but do not despair, i think that cracters from Votoms and Layzner at least are probable of appearing eventually.

>A place where a BR-anon and PL-anon can be friends, enjoy mecha, good fight, well played plot and nice PLOT.

Hehehehehe, that is one of the magics of the internet... And PLOT.

Plot always unites people... except when they are fighting over it.
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>>631572
No problemo bud
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Do you think the enemy will ever send a squad of bikini babes to stop Roarke? Not that I think it would.
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>>631619
Not that I think it would work
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>>631619
It will only work as a way to make an Elite Bodyguards for Roarke
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>>631640
It would certainly stop, the character who has Haman as her character art I can't for the life of me remember her name right now.
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>>631654
>main villian
>nobody remembers her name
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>>631640
So, the Shrike team basically.
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>>631690
D:
That is the perfect, the name that fits the theme, have bouncy bouncy ladies and is in "That male bastard Roarke Style" as would say some evil pink haired old lesbian auntie we all know
And is fine as long as it STARTS but not ENDS like Shrike Team
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>>631654
>>631706
>>631690

So, do any of you knows how Wong is going to handle the pilots stats for the Tourney? Will they be real NPCs or are all going to have generic stats until they become of relevance?

That will make an difference in the performance of the mechs too, it got me thinking about things like how luck usage would intefer in the matches, for example.
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>>631744
They will probably all just roll 1d10+14 like a B-class crew.
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>>631779
Do B-class have Luck?
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>>631789
I have no idea but they might have a Maneuver Pool.
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>>631809
Hmmm... One interesting option would be if we had a small Maneuver Pool and a slight bigger Luck one tha regenerates in two or three fights... What would lead to some kind of micromanagement, which could add another layer of strategy in the fights.

But i think it could get out of hand if we are rolling for the two competitors, as it could lead to twisting the odds in favor of one or another by controlling the spendure of these points.
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>>631779
Considering these are suppose to be up and coming aces, they may be A, which would push them to have a maneuver pool of 1 with a max of 10 reflex. So long as there is no cockpit hit, the pilots could evacuate their machine with no worries.

>>631853
Well, considering the plan was to have the anon who put out the machine pilot it, them deciding to use luck or not is up to them. A good number of machines are melee based, so a means to break up the melee fest might help there.
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>>632836
>considering the plan was to have the anon who put out the machine pilot it
Probably going to have to do it differently now considering several people made multiple mechs.
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>>632853
Would likely mean turning the non preferred suits to NPCs of lesser value. Allows Wong to speed up the tourney and also allow us to show off our best machines.
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>>632853
>>632904
Choosing would be hard, Za Walkure is my magnum opus until now, but the pure tanker simplicity of the hussar has it"s appeal...

Did i post the last one? The Tenshi?
http://pastebin.com/ZgicMNZf
This one would be npc mook if i had to choose, it didn't translated well.

>NPCs of lesser value
This would take away the difficulty of the battles, and potentialy the fun of it...

Who doesn't want to be surprised by your own creation winning even when you delegated it to be an underdog?

>Well, considering the plan was to have the anon who put out the machine pilot it, them deciding to use luck or not is up to them.

And if he is absent from the session?What do we do? Spend for him?
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>>632904
I dont know man, my autism compels me to keep coming up with more robots even if I dont really understand how to actually play and as time goes on the number only grows. I have seven different ones now that I have easy access to and few more I can dredge up, that shit would probably get out of hand.

Maybe other anons role a dice to see who controls the ones that the maker didnt decide to use? Think I'll leave the thinking to Wong on this one.
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>>632958
There's no problem in coming up with ideas here bro, Wong is probably lurking, or going to read this when he finds out that the thread is still up.
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>>632999
I just assumed it was going to be a dragonball style tournament bracket and didn't put much thought into it after that.
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>>633026
I assumed it was something like that. Maybe with a qualifying Melee where a bunch of generic designs get axed.
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>>632956
I'll stick with the Dutchman myself. The quick release locks and modular nature of the machine allows it to stay viable even when a part doesn't work. Also it's the Zaku II. I can't abandon it.
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>>633026
Do you want to get even crazier about it? Did you already noticed that the distance the competitors start from one another WILL tip the winning chances to one side or the other?

Man, a long distance fast mech could just use half his action to get further alway from his enemy, while using the other action to fire Twin-canons again and again until his adversary just job.
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>>633041
Hmm... Can you post it here senpai? i don't remember when was the last thread that you posted it.
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>>633068
http://pastebin.com/7EPWmpMY
here, the modified dutchman with the 4 weapon packs I made for it.
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Did we have a thread we didnt archive at some point? I'm trying to collect all my dumb robots into one place and I cant find the thread where I made a pair of house of the dead boss knockoffs. I know I pasted it on a thread because I remember being a bit sad no one was as autistic about house of the dead as I was and couldn't guess what they were based off..
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So they have Knights. And they have Paladins. When will Avalon show up with a Crusader?
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>>633247
Also I know one guy made an actual tank which I cant seem to find either.
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>>633297
Guest pastebins tend to have a shortish life span so it does not help, and there have been quite a number of threads. Don't think any are missing.
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>>633301
The link should still at least be there and I have gone and control+f'd most of the threads. Somewhere before thread 41 something seems to be missing.
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>>633301
I also spent the time collecting the other mecha people made that fit 140 points as I went so I would have something to do rather than actually work.

There are at least 14 mecha that fit. 15 if you count the Roc since its already in the game. Feel like I still missed a couple.
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>>633270
When you make one, anon.

Or Wong do it first.
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>>633400
Are you counting the three i made yesterday?
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>>633432
Yes.
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>>633437
When did the Roc appear? I don't remember anymore... Do you have the links to all the pastebins? I'm trying learn with your designs my senpais ^^
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>>633497
I recall its visually similar to the RGZ-95 ReZEL
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>>633497
http://pastebin.com/5iMHNrje

One of our ships has 3 Roc's on it http://pastebin.com/N0LGAz5t
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>>633301
Wow... Which layout are you planning to use? I vote for MANLY

>Throws rock at enemy
>Enemy explodes the rock
>After fight, when everyone is repairing their mech, Dutchman is mining asteroids to get a new rock...

Jokes aside:
>Design and Decor in the shape of shoulder spikes and general asctetic.(+ 2 Cl, 1 Cp, space), Quick Change Mount 4cp(1 for each limb)
What does this mean? I think i didn't get to this part of the book yet.
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>>633520
I'd likely switch between bouts. It was designed to serve as a versatile machine, so only focusing on one seems counter productive. That and the right limbs can be swapped out between matches.

The CL stands for Cool. Certain things increase your stats while on the mech, such as Cool, Int, or Tech. Cool is pretty cheap and it helps things like intimidation. Which would be fitting when they scavenged a fallen dutchman for good arms and legs for field repairs.
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>>633567
>That and the right limbs can be swapped out between matches.
Don't seems to be of importance in a tourney, but should be an very good thing to have in a mass-produced mook mech, specially in a battlefield.

>Cool is pretty cheap and it helps things like intimidation.
Hmmm... 1CP gives 2 Cool? Maybe i should put it in the Hussar, it has one or two points and a few spaces left unused.

>ROCK
Seriously man, this is genius! If you lose the rock(And who would bother to actually lose time destroing a rock!?) you just need to sculpt an asteroid or something, way cheaper than buying a new weapon or repairing a damaged one.
And yeah, i get the reference XD.
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>>633519
Thank you senpai.
>>633567
Just for confirmation, this "Add+" in the construction table means "Bonus Damage", right?

So if i had more 6CP to increment the Walkure... It could have 6k Fists...

Well, too late, the missiles are here to stay.
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>>633626
The rock is basically a gag weapon. Sure it's 20 kills of pain, but it's a 10 ton weapon that gives you a -1 for MV and a -1 to hit with it. Moment you through it though, you get that back.

As for it's use. It actually has a very good one. specifically a full on purge of the part. Rather than have it dangle uselessly, eject the limb and fight at a lighter load by dropping the two handed weaponry.

>>633703
Pretty much, but keep in mind that each kill adds half a ton which will mess with your numbers. Plus you need to use space efficiency. Medium striker servos only grant a +1 normally, but the heavy hydraulics grant another +1. It also allows it to lift something 30 tons, as much as a medium weight machine.
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>>633739
If my knowledge in this system is correct, a 20Kill shot will one-shot any limb of most mechs(almost all of them, just excepting a few oddballs like the Tenshi, who would tank that and awnser it with a 12K shot to your face for almost killing the pilot by throwing a meteor at him), and if you plan on starting the match by spending half your luck or something in your throw, it could probably make sure it would hit, or at least making the enemy panicking and spending his luck too.
After that you don't have that -1MR anymore, and can proceed the fight as normal.
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>>633853
>burning luck on one massive attack

Yorimoto-sensei would be proud.
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>>633945
Now I feel proud of myself.
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>>633945
Guys... i think i found Yoritomo-sensei.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isM-r6B1wz4
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So, guys, i was thinking here of making a Octopuss mecha, in this case, if i want to link the tentacles, do i have to pay 7CP for each tentacle after the first?
So... 49CP?
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I think I probably missed this in the rulebook, but it's possible to forego a head entirely and just mount the sensors in the Torso, right?

What advantages does a Head actually give?
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>>634838
It is possible, but it has it's penalties. For starter, you will have a -2 to awareness, and as shown, a -2 to your accuracy. Mainly because it's really damn hard to see what you are doing when your arms and legs are flailing about in front of you. It's what helped us with Rashad and a few other fights, really.
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>>634851
I still think thats sort of bullshit. I mean most of the time you are supposed to have your hands in front of your face anyway.
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>>634860
In a fight I mean.
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>>634860
In a fight, it's usually a bad idea to keep your guard up constantly since it blocks your view and makes it difficult to counter since you don't know where your hit will be until you break up your guard. Likewise with keeping the shield up constantly.

There is also the matter that when you punch or kick your torso tends to be shift and twist while your head faces forward. For a torso mounted system, that would mean that whenever you throw a punch or wave something heavy your camera view is going to shift quite a bit.. which would make targetting difficult.
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>>634888
Just look through or around your arms.Also you would think that in a future where they can make giant fighting robots they could either A) make a zock style on on tracks or B) put multiple sensors around the body to show whats happening.
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>>634906
Eye on tracks, jesus christ.
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I'd like to voice an unpopular opinion.

I think Zakus and most Zeon Mechs are ugly as sin.
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>>634927
What do you think is not ugly as sin?
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>>634906
That still has the issues of inertia and trying to cycle them properly to see properly. There would also be the delay of switching camera views to get a bead. A track may be good, but it still follows some of the issues a eye would, such as having to turn the whole body around to get a better view if it's in the peripherals. Likewise, peek-a-boo, while a good tactic in Boxing has many flaws to it that can cause issues in a proper fight and many of it's benefits sort of fail when your opponent starts using things like drill fists.

But let's focus on another aspect of it; tells. In fencing your profile is rendered slim by taking a side stance, increasing your range and making it more difficult to tell where the blade is going. This slimmer profile also makes it easier to dodge and evade attacks. Taking a broad stance to allow for the torso mounted sensors to see would also mean showing your range of motions more and also make you a bigger target.

If you want to go more likely, the HMIS is designed to make full use of a human form since thats what we are used to. Same with eyes. Trying to see out of a bunch of cameras is going to make things just plain disorienting, not to mention the shift of view point.
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>>634927
HERESY
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>>634937
The GM Custom is a Mech design I really like. Most of the Mechs based on the Gundam are pretty cool. The Hyaku Shiki is probably my absolute favorite.
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>>634851
Do this accuracy penalty applies to every mecha roll or only missiles/gunnery ones?
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>>634951
>doesnt even have a monoeye
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>634967
Enjoy your cyclopean bullseye.
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>>634970
>Implying a shiny golden forehead crest isn't an even bigger target
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>>634944
Most of that applies in melee combat. A headless Mech with shoulder and arm mounted guns wouldn't really suffer from obscured vision.
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>>634970
How do you feel about the Gyan? I really like it but all my friends treat it as a sin against humanity.
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>>634951
So basic large humanoid bodies with little detail aside from the face that offer no real change or variation aside from color and the head?
>>634964
It's a general one. It messes with a lot of fighting styles both weapon and martial art base since it's going to make seeing your movements that much harder. As a bit of a excercise, do every day choirs and have it so your head follows the position of your chest. Chest shifts to the left, you do the same. Anything that requires reaching or lots of body movements get some challenge added to them.
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>>634970
Are you going to participate in the tourney? Or may i already count you in the #TEAMWALKURE and not in the #TEAMDUTCHMAN?
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>>634975
A forehead crest made of Gundarium and a layer of Anti-Warp coating on one of the most agile Mechs in all of Zeta. And it's still smaller than the massive weak point you call a sensor.
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>>634990
All I'm saying is if they can keep a tanks cannon pointing level like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCW-2_qPlQw they can do the same with a camera.
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>>634990
>So basic large humanoid bodies with little detail aside from the face that offer no real change or variation aside from color and the head?

More like sleek and angular Mechs that aren't bogged down with bulky armor and unnecessary spikes and doodads.

>>634991
Working on it.

>>634988
The only Zeon Mech I could stand to play in Federation vs Zeon.
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>>635004
Thank you for your answer, have this shot of Victory one of my favorite gundam designs besides Zeta and Shining.
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>>635006
I'll confess, something puts me off of the Zeta. It's almost a bit too sleek, maybe? It's undoubtedly cool looking but it's lacking something for me.

Here's the Nemo, a Mech I like in both form and function.
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>>635003
That doesn't really prove your point. Camera stability isn't so much a issue as torso stability. If the torso if facing forward and you are aiming forward, then noting is a problem, but if you are facing to the side and aiming forward, that could cause issues. Second, in Mekton, the head servo is used the same way that tank's turret is used. A stable platform for the sensors and gun.

>>635004
Sleek and angular isn't that impressive though and most of the zeonic machines are bulky considering they don't use fancy alloys. Early One year war relied heavily on armor to handle tank shells, machine gun rounds, and the like. The reason why later machines are so much slimmer is due to the fact that beam weaponry eats through armor fast. To the subject of your fight scenario, it's the whole Guardsman vs Space Marine. 1 on 1 the space marine wins, but the Zaku was never designed for 1 on 1. It was a mass produced machine designed to be fielded in large numbers as opposed to your singular gundam and shiny golden gm. Really, if Zeon didn't rip itself apart due to throwing all it's aces into the meat grinder, the political divide, the resource limit and Gihren going full space hitler, they would have won the war.
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>>635043
Again do it like the zock where the eye just travels around the body. Zock's dont even have to turn to look backwards.
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>>635043
Bitch please, the Zakus was designed as a weapons platform that would absolutely annihilate conventional armor which was all the Federation had. The GM is the quintessential mass-produced suit. Zeon focused on specialist suits like the Gelgoog and Doms that would individually outstrip a GM but a squad of GMs was more than a match for them. And if the Federation had one thing, it was numbers. They could crank out GMs and have them pilot able in no time at all. The few variant suits the Feds deployed were all just variants on the GM.

The GM itself used standard alloys and systems and was far superior to a Zakus II and was only completely surpassed by the Gelgoog.

Zeon was always going to lose the war, it was only a matter of time.
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>>635070
Its a good thing they had the numbers because they took a ridiculous amount of losses.
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>>635083
Indeed. Numbers and Resources were all the Federation really had going for it initially. Up until the GM was produced that is. Then it was numbers, resources and a solid fucking Mobile Suit.
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>>635043
Bro, don't we have cameras all across the torso that provides 360º view of the battlefield like the cockpits in Gundam Zeta? So why would torso cameras be a problem? Even the arms wouldn't obscure them enough to make the enemy's attacks to be unpredicable.
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>>635086
To be fair though at the end of the day it was really all down to numbers and resources. Rick Doms are probably at least equal to a GM and Gelgoog's shit all over GM's, the things are practically as strong as a gundam. Thts not even counting shit like the Pezun Dowadge. Zeon just had no one but rookies to pilot them at that point.
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>>635096
Because as I stated before, thats going to make things REALLY hard to follow. You either end up with a case of multiple feeds, one pair of eyes, which can make things slow if there are dozens of feeds, or you end up with the situation where you have the feed switching from each mini camera to get the best view. Sudden switches of perspective, not to mention lag, would be an issue as opposed to a constant feed.
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>>635119
I'm not seeing dozens of feeds in that picture. Really this would be much easier to work around than thought controlled machines.
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>>635017
The Nemo is a fine machine.
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I had a thought, since we'll never have the amount of men to match soul or Avalon, could we make an ai pilot grunt bots
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>>635119
>implying multi-camera lag is a reality and a big problem in the distant future where giant robots nuke it out with each other in SPAAAACE.
Can't we make an single image by merging all the cameras feeds into one 360º view and using the computer to automatic adjust perspectives to make the images fit together?
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>>635141
I was thinking about that when we were talking about how ships lacked options. Like maybe a compliment of drone mecha could be an option. They needn't even be A.I. piloted, guys in the ship could just fly them and if it gets destroyed fly out another.
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>>635135
Exactly.
>>635140
Yeah, it is, i like it too, but the Zaku has that special "si ne qua non" that turns it into a unique mech.Unfortunately, the GM and the Nemo woud be fastly forgotten if they were from an unpopular anime, because they are kinda generic and bland, even if that is what makes them workable to their concepts.
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>>635141
>pic related
Do you really think we are the first to have that idea?Why do you think Jupiter isn't mass producing them?
>>635155
That could be an option, but it may have its limits.
>Imagining suicide remote controlled harpies.
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>>635165
Nemo is based of my favorite GM variant, my favorite has to be Jegans though especially the Stark Jegan, loved it before I ever saw it in Unicorn. Here are some of my favorite Neo Zeon mechs, grew to love then while playing the Gundam Battle series and Assault Survive.
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>>635184
Just like what fucking Ribbons did at the end of 00.
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>>635109
Oddly enough, I think Goufs are a better match for the GM than the Dom. Doms are slower and less maneuverable than the GM and their heavy armor really doesn't do much against the GMs beam spray gun. GMs are actually noted for being faster than the Gundam. I think it's because they use lighter materials in its construction.
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>>635184
Because they have enough people to just do human saves which is safe and much cheaper than ai
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>>635199
A horrid waste of resources?
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>>635230
Dude Doms move 138 kph faster than GM's. Doms are fast as fuck. Also pretty maneuverable.
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>>635096
Isn't the Unicorn one of the single most broken machines at the time with a bunch of future tech put into it? The Kaiser may be amazing, but panoramic view isn't something we have.

Also I am pretty sure thats a modifier system.
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>>635234
Well hopefully we can make them shoot their guns before we ram people with them.
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>>635237
Huh, you're right. I never realized how good the Dom was. My first impression was kinda tainted by how easily Amuro handled the Black Tristars abd how he actually struggled against Ramba Real in the Gouf.
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>>635238
Unicorn in general was just a ridiculous series, psychoframe not withstanding.
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>>635238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfIeRdSwFGc
Everyone here seems to have full view of everything years before Unicorn.
>>635247
Thats because the gundam and ramba ral are both broken as shit.
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>>635247
Because at that point Amuro had been dealing with ace after ace. There is a reason why in Ghiren's greed if you give Ramba Ral the Doms he takes the white base with no casualties.

Hell, the best scenario for Zeon in that game for dealing with the gundam is simply.. DON'T. Take over the rest of earth, solidify defenses and points and take control of earth's production centers.
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>>635253
Well, that and Amuro was significantly more experienced by the time he encountered the Tristars.
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>>635261
And he had space autism powers and the tri-stars didnt.
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>>635253
This, i'm watching Zeta for the first time and i can confirm this for sure. There is even a scene in which Katz is trying to pilot a gundam and goes "THIS IS NOTHING LIKE THE ZAKU II!WHERE IS THAT MONITOR!?" and such, implying that the new MS made the change to 360º view.
>>635261
Man, after the computer got the data from watching Doan fighting, Amuro learned to beat almost everything that didn't had a ROCK.
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Anyone got stats for the Shetland? I have an idea for a full combat variant that some dangerously crazy mechanic decided to make. Call it the Mongolian or the Takha.
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>>635313
Oh, and if Bahamut and Bucephalus ever work on a Mech together it needs to be called the Hippocampus.
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>>635313
I think they are basically a harpy but worse.
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>>635330
One scale lighter than the Harpy, with an almost inofensive beam cannon and some smoke granades if i'm remebreing it right.
But wong only described it, never gave the full stats.
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>>635328
Well, the SOUL B series have been worked on by both, but they decided to go with neutral names like Slayer, Slinger, and Stilletto for them. Marine animals like Dolphins and Orcas could work as well. It's sorta why I named my Gundam attempt the Delphinus.
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>>635328
Perfect anon, man there are so many good greek horses you could name a custom mech after
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>>635485
Well, there is one I've been working on called the Trojan. It's a super heavy with a 20 kill armor piercing ball and chain and designed to have more kills in it's servos by sacrificing space. Problem is, it's heavy as all hell and requires special pods to even move. The name came because the only way this thing could ruin the green men was if they rolled it up to them as a peace offering and just let it go to town in the base.
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>>635496
Are you planning on putting it to test in the tourney?0.0
How much cp does it cost?
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>>635628
No, like the Delphinus, Beiji and Masakado, this is me doing a 'what if' and making something that would make sense for a earlyish machine against green men. Beam weapons not portable at that kill power yet? Get a big ball of iron, attach thrusters, and swing it. The Pawn is similar. It could enter the tourney, but it's design is heavy and it'd have a GES system instead of thrusters. The Pawn's joke was 'if you could get to the other side of the battlefield in one, you deserve a promotion'.
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Do you get GES to add to the movement speed of something or to get something to move at that speed?
And does purchasing multiple wheels add to the MA bonus?
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>>635699
You get GES to move at the speed it lables and it seems wheels and treads only work once. More wheel sets do not mean you go faster. It's a cheaper system, but you can't fly and anything of a certain elevation you can't just pass through, likely requiring climbing or jumping.
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>>635709
Welp. Time for a goofy hover tank then.
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>>635740
http://pastebin.com/X4EGZeXb
No fun allowed, the Tank.
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>>635859
Not bad. It's got a good bit of kick to it and that shield makes it pretty sturdy. But don't forget that being a tank the machine is sitting at a -5 MV.
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>>635897
Ah well, cant have everything.
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>>635897
I guess I could make it not a tank with little drawback but what the hell would that make it then? Its only got a head and a torso.
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>>635916
It's a gun-nugget.
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>>635916
A gun-dam.
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>>635948
>>635970
No longer a tank, it is now a ground based Apsalus. Its certainly big enough.

You are now forcibly noticing that all three apsalus have a tiny zaku head.
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>>635948
>>635970
If it is for going against the Kaiser, it name shall be "Appetizer".
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>ITT: The Preparations for the Tourney.

Unrelated to that, is Wong going to reutilize this thread or create another one?
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>>636023
Probably a new one.
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>>636014
I think that with the melee boost, I could one shot it's head with the shield down via ROCK since it'd be 22 kills total.
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>>636035
>mfw when even after many millenia of technological advancement a ROCK is still the BEST WEAPON.
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>>636035
Medium striker gives a +1 boost and the Hydraulics give it another +1 letting your fists do 6K if I am reading right. You got to bring the shield down before you ROCK. Unless you just throw the rock and fly to pick it up again I guess.
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New thread here >>636052
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>>636048
Who said I would throw? The ROCK is a melee weapon with the throw ability. I can just bring it with me and smack you with it since I only have to worry about that 1 shield once since anything that does double the damage short circuits reactive shields.
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>>636057
I totally forgot you can hit people with rocks. Fucking Doan.
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So... Do we continue to use this thread for the tourney talk until it gets archived? Or do we move to the new one?

I feel that this conversation could be interesting to a large part of the playerbase, but it is totaly sidetracking from the game.

>What do?
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>>636088
>mfw
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