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Welcome back, everyone, to the seventy-fourth installment of Mecha Space Pirate Quest. I'm Wong, your host, and today you are...well, for now, you are Mohammed Al-Tabir, Second Mate of the Iron Kestrels Space Pirate fleet.
Previous Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=Mecha+Space+Pirate+Quest%2C+Collective+Game%2C+mecha
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Mecha%20Space%20Pirate%20Quest
Master Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/sSHs0QmF
Upgrade Menu: http://pastebin.com/QQQzkFZe
List of Moves: http://pastebin.com/HSdyCe2y
Rogues' Gallery: http://pastebin.com/E9ZcDLfG

We're starting a bit early, because there's a bit of background to get through.
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>>1082116
Hopefully Moe, Caesar, and Pierre are alright.
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>>1082116
Huzzah, love this quest. Since it's metal gear Mohammed again I am very happy. Also codec call incoming?
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You're a bit disappointed you didn't get to see whatever was back there in that building. Obviously, it was some kind of advanced mech, but you've never heard of a mech going berserk before. With one notable exception. You need your teammate for this one, you were busy shooting Knights down with the Zulfiqar when Caesar's girlfriend went rampant, but there was too much chance he'd be recognized and the three of you made a team decision to let Caesar make a quick shopping trip and then send him back to guard your concealed mecha. There was a risk with Pierre, too, but Caesar apparently has friends stationed here. Of your team, those two were the most at risk. You and Pierre weren't supposed to get separated, for that matter, but you had to wave him off when he tried to approach the groundcar.

The groundcar's tires screech to a halt and you let the pilots out. Although your face is impassive, your heart feels like it's beating about a million times per minute and you want to throw up. Driving during an earthquake is terrifying, but at least this is a model you're familiar with. It has big, almost cartoonishly rubbery treads for tough terrain, and it's heavy enough to be extremely stable. Still, when the pavement started to crack, you very nearly lost your cool. Being trapped in a crevice and crushed by the grinding jaws of earth is a particular horror to you.

The three pink-haired girls hurry off, along with the purple-haired boy, but the big one with the goggles and the round head stops a moment to talk to the blonde woman in urgent tones. You dig out your PC and start sending a message to Pierre about meeting up, when you see the blonde woman smile at the man as he's jogging away. You know that smile, you've seen it before numerous times on Auditorium. There may never be a better opportunity than now. You turn off the groundcar, open your door, and hop down to the ground, “Pardon me, ma'am.”

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She pauses and gives you an annoyed look, “You're not an official taxi, are you charging a fare?”

“No, of course not.” You hold your hands up, “Ma'am, you are one Irina Kim, no?”

The color drains from her face, “I changed my name, I came all the way out here, if you're some kind of bounty hunter hoping for something from my sister you can go to Pluton. One scream from me and Amos will tear your head off.”

“That is not my intent, I am just a messenger.” You hurry along behind her as she turns and starts walking away. There are an awful lot of guns around here. Four ugly, blocky Jovian cruisers and one more graceful Martian one, although you spot clan markings on it, and that makes you a bit nervous. You're from one of the more cosmopolitan cities on Mars, that kind of thing is foreign to you, but some of the provincials take the old family names and tribes quite seriously and have a lot more zeal.

“I'm not listening.” She informs you, “This earthquake isn't natural, I need to get to the ship's sensors.”

“Then I will speak to myself. Your sister is getting married, and the only thing she wants is for you to be there. I have no siblings, so I do not know, but surely it makes you happy to know that she is happy? Will you not at least consider trying to attend?” You plead with her.

“Where are your sunglasses and jacket?” She asks pointedly, turning to face you, “Damned space pirate, do you think I don't know what you are? So, my sister is having the happiest day of her life, soon? Good for her. She wants to swan around and have everyone she knows see how successful and happy she is? I don't have to indulge her. Do you have any idea how hard I had to scrabble for a future after my sister caused the death of Doctor Asphodel? What an embarrassment that was for the company? Just like always, she's out there doing exactly what she wants, playing the star, and expecting everyone else to just be an audience for her. Fuck that and fuck you.”

“It's not like that!” You protest. Although you're not sure you have a right to. You rather like Red Siren, she makes the Admiral smile and she's always been nice to you. Unlike this sister. That said, she is a bit of a showoff.

“You there, MP!” The woman raises her hand and waves to a knot of security guards, and you beat a somewhat hasty retreat back to the groundcar, gunning it and speeding away as she jogs over to them and begins gesticulating at your vehicle. Luckily there are too many people around for you to have to worry about them opening fire.

[Continued]
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>>1082146

Well that went about as well as expected.
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“That's it, kidnapping is ABSOLUTELY back on the table...” You grumble as you speed away. You consider your next objectives and almost freeze up. You don't want to go back into the city. An enemy you can fight is one thing, but being killed by the planet itself is an awful prospect. A building could just fall on you, and that would be it, although with the armored groundcar you might be alright. Still, there are people in there still being evacuated, Pierre is back there somewhere, and there's someone else you're curious about. Bane. Or at least, the man the UJCIDF Lieutenant called Bane. You want to know what he was doing up there, and why the Lieutenant seemed to recognize him.

Officially, you know, this planet is facing an Avalon-backed native insurgency. Tourism is a large industry on Qu'lir, and the Jovian and Martian corporations invested in it could stand to lose a vast wealth of credits with terrorist attacks biting into their profits, hence the involvement of the SSL. Qu'lir also has a planetary gate, unusual for a backwater like this and a remnant of the days when the planet was involved in the slave trade. The Gate of Qu'lir is controlled by the UJCIDF, but up until recently Avalon had ships in the sky too, using the southern continent as a landing base up until a concerted Jovian attack led by a prototype battleship routed them. As far as you know, any remaining Avalonian ships have concealed themselves, and the Avalonians are assuming a defensive posture to wait for reinforcements.

You couldn't be more wrong about this, but you aren't as well informed as Colonel Luxol about the movements of Count Ford.

You steel yourself, your groundcar kicking up dust as you head back towards the city. The tremors seem a bit less extreme now, but you're still cautious. It saves your life. As you make your way through the residential district, a tremor hits and a two-story building teeters and falls. You slam the groundcar into reverse with a muffled snarl of, “Alqaraf!” You hit the gas pedal...an archaic term from the days when vehicles still used petroleum...just in time to avoid having the cabin crushed, but a lot falls on the front of the car, and a spar of metal stabs through your hood. The car's lights flicker, but don't go out, and you curse in ways that would have made Lady Ahmad twist your ear off. You're stuck. Maybe you can still drive, but not pinned like a butterfly to a bit of cardboard. You grab an emergency rain poncho from under the seat and hurriedly tug it on, then throw open the door and begin dragging bits of house aside, using a prybar and your own muscles to try and free your vehicle. You don't want to risk the edge of your paired monoswords hacking through this unless you absolutely have to. Those things are quite durable, but they can still be damaged.

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“As-salaamu alaikum!” Someone calls from behind you, and you look over your shoulder to see a pair of burly Martians in the uniforms of the Holy Militia.

“Akaikum as-salaam.” You reply, throwing a beam aside.

“Here, brother, let us help you.” The two of them join their efforts to yours, clearing away the mess. One of them wraps his headscarf around his glove and yanks the rebar out of the hood once the debris holding it down is gone, popping the hood to look at the engine, “Allah loves you, one inch to the right and your vehicle's life would have ended.”

“Truly, God is great.” You respond, shifting naturally into the Martian modes of address. There are a decent number of Martians among the Iron Kestrels, both from your original PMC band and from other Belt pirates who joined the Rhinehawk's crew, but it's rare to just speak in Arabic as a group because it's rude to the other Kestrels.

“God is great.” They echo at the same time, smiling.

“You are young, but your manner is quite dignified, brother.” The older one suggests, “You are not a resident of this town, I take it?”

“After all.” The younger states firmly, “Surely we would have seen you at the mosque, were you not a recent arrival. What brings you here?” Their manner is still friendly, but they both look quite curious.

“Guards? Where did you go? Don't leave me in the middle of a crisis!” You hear a younger, somewhat petulant voice, and a young man in the fancier uniform of a Martian Lieutenant stalks around the corner, “By Allah, I swear...wait, who is this?”

They both bow deeply, “Effendi, we were just questioning him, but he is of the faith and was in trouble, so we stopped to help.”

“Allah bless the Martian Holy Militia, the finest fighting force in the galaxy.” You say, and despite everything you mean it a little. Sure, Mars is poorer than Jupiter, with no SOUL, but your people are valiant and you're glad of the rumors you've heard that the higher-ups have started investing more in stronger mecha to supplement the traditional Martian fast-attack doctrine, “Without these men, I would truly be stuck.” You bow deeply as well.

“I can see that.” He frowns, “You have a strong posture befitting a warrior, and clear eyes. Clearly you are not one of these provincials, why are you here?”

You bow again, “As I was saying, effendi, I am Mohammed Al-Tabir, a tourist.”

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“Lieutenant Asim Rabban.” He looks around, “I do not mean to be impolite, Mohammed, but there is nothing here for tourists. This city has been fortified because it has been a target for enemy activity. Who would bring you here and risk death? If you had been here beforehand, and been caught up in things when the arrival of the accursed infidel piloting the Berenger...” He frowns as both of his underlings turn and spit in one contemptuous motion into the gutter, “Please, I share your sentiment but that is simply crass.” He scolds them, then turns back to you, “As I was saying, when that filthy slut of a she-devil arrived, perhaps you could have been trapped here, except for one thing...” His eyes narrow, “I have never once seen you at the mosque. Naturally, it is impossible for a good Martian not to attend services, especially in these times when Allah's guidance is needed more than ever.”

Your brain whirs, knowing every second of delay makes you more suspicious...but then it hits you, and you smile, “Of course, Lieutenant Rabban. Your logic is excellent, and you are completely correct. I, too, would have nothing but contempt for an infidel who did not show Allah proper reverence even this far from Mars. After all, I rely frequently on his protection.” You lie, wishing you had a bacon sandwich and your bipedal Zulfiqar right now, “I did show up in town recently, but when I say I am a tourist, I mean that I am one whose business lies exclusively in places of conflict.” You pull out a card, and flick it to him.

He catches it, looking at the spray of red claws on a white background, and scans the code on it with his PC, “You are a member of the Crimson Talons mercenary group?”

“I am its leader. Do not judge by my age, I am more skilled than I look.” The best lies are closest to the truth, “Some birds fly at the head of their own flock rather than as part of a larger wing, but we all share the same Martian sky. I am come to Qu'lir because there is more honor in jihad against Avalon than in shooting down pirates.”

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And I'll be back in about ten minutes, around usual starting time, I forgot to buy milk.
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>>1082189
That better not be blood Io-
>>1082212
>It's Iok
Only bad things are down that path.
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>>1082212

>Iok is here

Well, fuck. So much for our Martian allies.
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>>1082212
Good news Jesus! You are now officially no longer the worst sniper on Qu'lur
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>>1082246

Honestly, Jesus was never a bad sniper, as a certain pack of raptors can attest. It's the rest of him that's the problem.
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>>1082212
Also, have an updated Supplemental Rogue's Gallery.
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>>1082263
No worries, Iok has him beat there too. Especially after the latest episode.
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>>1082264
>>1082212
For fucks sake: http://pastebin.com/LsnpqE7Y
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>>1082212
> You lie, wishing you had a bacon sandwich and your bipedal Zulfiqar right now
KEK
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>>1082319
truly he is the most martian man around
also we brought our mecha right?
we should be big damn hero's when the avalonians come.
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The Lieutenant smiles, walking over and handing back your card, “It is as you say, and I believe you are exactly who you say you are.” He dusts off his gloved hands, turning to walk away, “Arrest him.”

You have your hand on the hilt of one of your swords immediately, drawing it a few inches. Even as the rain pours down around you, pattering off your poncho, the snow-white edges of the curved blade gleams menacingly, “You are making a mistake, effendi.” You have a gun, but if you pull that the chance to resolve this nonlethally has been shot...no pun intended. Besides, better if they focus on the sword when they can't see the gun, and surprise them with it if needed.

“No, I do not think so.” The Lieutenant remarks, “I heard that the Crimson Talons failed shamefully in their honorable duty of escorting the Lady Fatima Ahmad to her betrothed's side, losing their commander in the process. The Lady Ahmad was kidnapped by pirates, and rather than return to Mars the Crimson Talons vanished. As the rumor goes, they stayed by her side, even when she chose to demean herself through marriage to the pirate who undoubtedly despoiled her.”

“Watch your words carefully, Lieutenant.” You warn him. He's right on several points, but showing disrespect to Fatima and Admiral Starwind is an offense you do not take lightly.

“Oh? Why should I? It seems to me you have forgotten your place...or perhaps you know it all too well. After all, I imagine a talented warrior, presumably Commander Ibrahim's second, would do well as a space pirate and the Iron Kestrels are keen to recruit skilled warriors of any world. This will be investigated fairly, and if if you are cleared, I shall of course apologize and allow you to join us in our fight against Avalon under my direct supervision, whether you come quietly or not. I always did wonder how Admiral Starwind pierced Mars' impregnable defenses so easily.” The Lieutenant makes an impatient gesture to his soldiers, then steps back hastily out of the way as a tall man wrapped in an enveloping black raincoat hurries by, carrying an armload of shopping bags.

You, personally, didn't think they were all that impregnable and there isn't much the Admiral can't impregnate in your opinion.

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>>1082384
>You, personally, didn't think they were all that impregnable and there isn't much the Admiral can't impregnate in your opinion.
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>>1082384
ha!
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>>1082384
3ish posts in and I already want to give him a Rashad burial. Really living up to the Iok name.
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>>1082384
>You, personally, didn't think they were all that impregnable and there isn't much the Admiral can't impregnate in your opinion.
Can't wait to see what Iok fucks up.
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Did I post Moe's stats anywhere more recent than Metal Gear Mohammed?
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>>1082412
I just wonder what his monstrosity of a mecha is. Also, does anyone else find it Ironic that the Carta Issue expy is an orphan?
>>1082421
Presumably during the ladbowl.
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>>1082421
I don't think so? I only remember you posting the Zulfiquar's stats.

>>1082426
I'm really worried it's the flying tank I shilled to Wong. I'd be kinda sad if we had ro smash it. Though on the other hand, I'd love to see it in action.
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>>1082426
Its that 280CP Tank that Tank-kohai(Who is also Mai Uaifu) made, and its a monster.

But he is probably going to job on that anyway.

>>1082421
Check Cesar x Moe 2: Eletric Bogaloo, if you don't find them, then look at the Invasion of Mars.
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>>1082439
>ro
to
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>>1082439
>I don't think so? I only remember you posting the Zulfiquar's stats.
Yeah, you can reverse engineer his mecha combat stats from the rolls if he somehow lost the sheet. Also, the Zulfiquar is here >>1082280 Along with both standard martian mecha.
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>>1082421
Does not look like it, not even during lad bowl, though his training must be doing well.. just hope we don't have to in person fight so many people.
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>>1082445
Actually its 235.
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>>1082384
>You, personally, didn't think they were all that impregnable and there isn't much the Admiral can't impregnate in your opinion.
And now Moe is learning from the best who himself learned from the best.There has to at some point in the future (far or near) be a sacred tome published by the iron kestrels that is added to by every subsequent leader or other figures of significance. Banned in nearly every slice of space, and not suitable for minors. Never the less vigorously read.
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Wait, i just realised something.
>some unknown ancient evil/Greenman bio-weapon sleeps on Qu'lir
>It may be close to waking up after the deal with the Squilla
>Iok is here

..........Fuck. Well, Simon does not need that hand anyway, he has a girlfriend now.
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>>1082426
well since he's a proper non-bacon eating martian he's probably got a beast form mech...

fuck... I made a 22 MA big gun bird mech a thread or two ago and was asked what i'd do with a 280 cp limit... I gave it a giant cannon and some heavy beam guns in the 140 version but didn't really finish the 280 cp version
I hope its not that thing... actually if it is the 280 version I was dicking around with it has -7MV...

we'll just have to see.
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Havnt been following IBO, who the hell is lok?
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>>1082453
>http://pastebin.com/LsnpqE7Y
PALADIN ANESIS (under Construction)

Light Heavy Torso: C/S/K 14, 7 tons
Light Heavy Head: C/S/K 7, 3.5 tons
Light Heavy Left Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Light Heavy Right Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Light Heavy Left Leg: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Light Heavy Right Leg: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons

Armor: Knight's Medium Heavy(8 SP, 12 CP, 4.0 tons) on all locations, does not ablate from damage caused by attacks dealing less than 4 Kills

Armament:
Double-Ended Plasma Sabre: WA +1, 8K (only 2K of structure), EMW (treats SP as 4 less than usual), Quick, 14 CP, 8 Spaces, 1 ton

>Oh wait... Where did I saw this saber before?
>...
>OH MY GOD HOW DID KATHERINE PUT HER HANDS ON LORI'S DOUBLE-SABER!? SHE IS GOING WITH AN PALADIN LEVEL WEAPON TO THE TOURNEY!?
We're screwed.
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Attractiveness: 8
Body Type: 7
Cool: 8 (Fast Talk & Persuasion +4, Leadership +2)
Empathy: 10 (Human Perception +3, Seduction +4)
Intelligence: 8
[Education]: +3
Luck: 7
Movement Allowance: 6
Reflexes: 10 (Dodge & Escape 5, Handgun +4, Mecha Gunnery +6 Mecha Melee +7, Mecha Pilot +7, Melee +6, Rifle +4, Stealth +5, Zero-G +3)

You'll notice he's not quite as good as Amos, but Amos has a few years and a Paladin over him.
Technical Ability: 7
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>>1082485
>I hope its not that thing... actually if it is the 280 version I was dicking around with it has -7MV...
Considering that Not!Iok probably has a subpar dicepool, Not Scared.
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>>1082495

How did I fuck THAT up?
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>>1082504
Wong probably made a better version if it is that mech, the 140 cp version only had like - 4MV, Made that thing when I was still getting used to mekton rules.
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>>1082514
Blue Milk. The choice of drugs among youths today.
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Rolled 7 + 8 (1d10 + 8)

“Why oh why did I have to drink so much at that bar? I already bought enough alcohol.” The raincoat man moans, “It's those damned cats, I just needed to get away from them for a while!”

The Lieutenant's nose wrinkles in consternation as his dramatic moment is spoiled, and his soldiers hesitate. The older one smiles a little, “Ah, this brings back memories.” He strokes his beard.

“A good Muslim avoids liquor.” The younger guard scolds the elder.

“A good Muslim has sometimes seen things that make him drink, cousin.” The older guard scolds right back, “Like your mother in the baths. By Allah, be thankful you have a skinny father.”

The man with the raincoat stops, looking around, “Dash it all!” He shouts, spotting a particular collapsed building, with part of a clearly-crushed groundcar beneath it. Alas, that vehicle was less loved by Allah than yours, “I rented that!”

“I was hoping to catch a glimpse of this particular servant-girl who was most comely beneath her hijab, but no, it was not to be. Instead, I beheld the behemoth.” The older guard shudders, “Not even wooing the sweet flower I dreamed of seeing and making her my bride has been enough to erase those ghastly images from my memories. Like a great brown plum, hairy as an ape...”

“Do not speak of my mother that way!” The younger guard sputters.

“By Allah cousin, I would not say it if it wasn't true.” The older guard holds up his hands in an inoffensive gesture.

“Excuse me, gentlemen, is this your car? I really need a lift, I'll bring it back when I'm done if I can.” The man in the raincoat sets down his bags. Something about his posture and the confidence in his voice remind you of the Admiral a little.

“No.” The Lieutenant snaps. Then he pauses, “Can you say that again?”

“I really need a lift?” The raincoat man questions.

The Lieutenant frowns, “No, the whole thing. From the beginning. A bit faster, the way you said it the first time.”

“Excuse me gentlemen, is this your car? I really need a lift. I'll bring it back...what's the point of all this, don't you speak a civilized tongue?” The raincoat man glowers from behind a thick beard.

“I knew it! Guards, take him too! That's an Avalonian accent, that 'you' was practically a 'ye'!” The Lieutenant roars.

>[1d10+10!]
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Reposting because I forgot something.

Mohammed Al-Tabir, Age 16
Attractiveness: 8
Body Type: 7
Cool: 8 (Fast Talk & Persuasion +4, Leadership +2)
Empathy: 10 (Human Perception +3, Seduction +4)
Intelligence: 8 (+4 Awareness)
[Education]: +3
Luck: 7
Movement Allowance: 6
Reflexes: 10 (Dodge & Escape 5, Handgun +4, Mecha Gunnery +6 Mecha Melee +7, Mecha Pilot +7, Melee +6, Rifle +4, Stealth +5, Zero-G +3)
Technical Ability: 7
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Rolled 3 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1082531
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Rolled 8 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1082531
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Rolled 7 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1082531
what
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Give me some 1d10+16s and oh bloody hell I forgot Mohammed's DODGE & ESCAPE went up too.

DEAR ME IN THE FUTURE THESE ARE MOHAMMED'S REAL STATS, NOT THESE. >>1082537


Mohammed Al-Tabir, Age 16
Attractiveness: 8
Body Type: 7
Cool: 8 (Fast Talk & Persuasion +4, Leadership +2)
Empathy: 10 (Human Perception +3, Seduction +4)
Intelligence: 8 (+4 Awareness)
[Education]: +3
Luck: 7
Movement Allowance: 6
Reflexes: 10 (Dodge & Escape +6, Handgun +4, Mecha Gunnery +6 Mecha Melee +7, Mecha Pilot +7, Melee +6, Rifle +4, Stealth +5, Zero-G +3)
Technical Ability: 7
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Rolled 8 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1082550
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Rolled 9 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1082550
rolling
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>>1082550
wait he's only sixteen?
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Rolled 10 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1082550
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Rolled 3 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1082550
Luck an option? Because I am spending 1 luck.
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Rolled 8 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1082550
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>>1082555
>>1082560
>>1082562
noice
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>>1082555
>>1082560
>>1082562
>>1082568
I see Moe's dedicated to putting Iok down as much as he deserves as well.
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Rolled 2, 7, 3, 10 = 22 (4d10)

>>1082555
>>1082560
>>1082562
>>1082565
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>>1082575
The fun part of Iok is that /m/ praises him as a /m/over of plot and more waifu destroyer than Terminator 'I AM GRAZE' Eins.
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>>1082584
They got one lick in
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Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>1082584
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>1082592
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>>1082592
>>1082598
Wait, why is the guy getting two swings in? Man I hope we are wearing something protective.
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Rolled 6, 1, 9, 9 = 25 (4d10)

>>1082598

Good fucking lord Mohammed you really are learning from the best.
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>>1082599
Dodge and parry roll, I'm pretty sure.
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>>1082599

I'll tell you now that 9 was a Stun/Shock roll.
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>>1082614
Guess I was wrong then.
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>>1082614
jesus
this 16 year old can kickass!
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Rolled 1, 4, 8, 8 = 21 (4d10)

>>1082607
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>>1082607
Moe the Crimson
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>>1082623
Crimson Mohammad?
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>>1082629
The Crimson Jihad
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>>1082623
>>1082629
>>1082640
>Crimson Jihad
This is pure gold.
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>>1082640
>>1082653
Wait, we're all doing this wrong.
The Crimson Comet
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>>1082661
>Crimson Meteor
FTFY
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>>1082667
Nah, that's not "cheap ripoff" enough.
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>>1082667
this actually sounds pretty nice all things considered
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>>1082661

We already have a crimson comet. Besides, Moe isn't really Char enough.

What colour is the Zulfiqar's paint scheme, anyway?
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>>1082655
Hector, did you just slam some islam?
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>>1082681
Kestrel colors.
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>>1082681
Black and white. Painted by Miles much to her dismay.
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>>1082681
black grey's and white. his blades are red
i think it's based on some form of gundam
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“Abdul, Achmed, get them!” The Lieutenant instructs.

“This is a mistake, boy.” The older guard warns you, drawing his sword. It's a monoblade too, like yours, and it's clear he has some skill with it from his stance.

“It wouldn't be the first I've made.” You can see he genuinely doesn't want to cut you down, which gives you an advantage. He's probably hoping to disarm you quickly. He's underestimating you, too, which is an awful mistake to make with any student of Oda Yoritomo. You back away slightly, which is a natural thing for a younger, smaller person to do against an older, larger opponent...and also puts your adversary between you and the Lieutenant in case he decides to shoot you.

As bombastic as your teacher is, he's very serious about swordplay...when he isn't trying to invent a three-swords fighting style...and has taught you extensively about the concept of iai, the art of drawing and cutting in one blow. Your sword is already in your hand, but its principles still apply for what you have planned. Your opponent whirls his sword in two great arcs, which you sidestep and step back from reflexively. The second cut, you bat the tip away with your swordpoint. You don't need to do that, but it accomplishes something important. For just a moment, his eyes are fixed on your swordtip, and that's all the time you need to lower your shoulders, lunge, and perform a cross-body draw of your other sword with the speed of an oncoming sandstorm, coming up inside his reach and putting the pommel into his temple with enough force to send him sprawling unconscious across the wet pavement. You nudge his face out of a puddle with the tip of your boot so he doesn't drown.

Meanwhile, the presumed Avalonian drops his shopping bags, holding his hands up, “Can't we discuss this?” He doesn't even sound like he wants to, you know the sound of someone spoiling for a fight despite his posture of surrender.

“Certainly effendi, we shall discuss this at length in an interrogation chamber aboard our-HEY!” The younger guard sputters as the Avalonian abruptly rips off his own beard and throws it into the Martian's face. You see laces dangling from the mass of presumably false hair. With a gesture that is both minimalistic and extremely practiced, the Avalonian whips the point of an extendable stun-baton into the spot just below the Martian's ribs, dropping him to the ground with a crackle of electricity.

[Continued]
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One left, and you're ready to draw your gun and hope you've got the faster trigger finger, when you realize that Assim Rabban's eyes are rolling up into his head. The Lieutenant sways, and abruptly drops to the ground. As he falls, you can see a cluster of needles sticking out of his back. Behind him, some distance down the street, stands a small, slender figure in a rainproof burqa, “Fou~nd you!” She crows as she strolls over, twirling her submachine needler around her finger dramatically and slinging it back into her gunbelt, putting her hands on her hips and sticking her chest out proudly, “Like the wind itself, I'll always find what I'm after.”

You stare at her in surprise, “Shuk, when did you learn to do that?”

You can tell she's pouting by the way her eyebrows pull closer to her small, cute nose, “Cousin has been teaching me since I was a young girl.” She shakes a finger at you, imitating Fatima Ahmad's slightly less squeaky voice, “'Remember, Shukriya, a Martian lady must be proficient in all aspects of womanhood. Her clusters on the target must be as small and precise as her stitching.” She crosses her arms, “Just because I'm modest doesn't mean I'm useless, I'm a better shot than your Jovian girl could ever hope to be.”

“I say, is this some sort of sectarian violence?” The Avalonian asks hopefully, “I support the freedom of all sapient beings, if you need a hand, I'm happy to provide it even to a Saracen.” He ruffles your hair vigorously, “Nice swordsmanship, boy, very clean.”

>[Explain it to him?]
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>>1082727
>“'Remember, Shukriya, a Martian lady must be proficient in all aspects of womanhood. Her clusters on the target must be as small and precise as her stitching.”

how are martian muslims so based.
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>>1082727
>explain we were here to invite someone to a wedding. probably going to kidnap her now honestly, if we don't then red siren will get sad and then the admiral will get sad.
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>>1082727
Did we kill Not!Iok?

Also;
>Not particularly, the young Lieutenant was being a perceptive smartass. You should leave, out of respect and gratitude of helping me out this one time, Avalon Knight.
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>>1082755
Unfortunately not. Unless he dies of sedative overdose.
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>>1082727
Just someone who is trying to find his friends during this situation, ran into some trouble, and then dealt with the trouble. No mention of our duties to the enemy. That can go badly for us.
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>>1082752
Better not. Our interests are still nominally with the SSL so far. Getting the Avalonian to help out would cause more complications than necessary.
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>>1082762
who said anything about helping?
i just want to take reds stuck up sister and go.
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>>1082727
>"So, effendi, where exactly do you need to go? You have my thanks and the lift you wanted... If its on the way."
>"Its... Complicated, my lady married a lord from out of the planet and my peers don't see it kindly... Are you really a Avalonian?"

We could use this chance to see if we can use him to assist the kidnaping plan, we could use a distraction.

But do not commit to anything, we have no idea if we can really trust him yet, and we don't want to get seriously involved with them.
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>>1082727

>It is a long story, but suffice to say that the lieutenant here has issues with my lady and her husband. Unfortunately, he has carried them all the way here, even during an earthquake.

The best lies are those that are completely true.

Beyond that, thank him for his help and get to more pressing matters, like reaquainting with Shuk, meeting up with your team, and not dying in the middle of a natural disaster.
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>>1082748

The War. Hakim. Hakim being extremely ruthless when it came to certain ideas and behaviors.
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>>1082773
Telling the Avalonian and getting him on this WOULD get them involved. It would also blow our disguise which is bad enough considering the target and local authorities know our face. Might be better to just know where he is going.
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>>1082773
Then why are we explaining to the AVALON KNIGHT that we're here to kidnap the most important UJCIDF researcher on the planet

>>1082784
Bad idea, brazilanon. See above.
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>>1082762
No? We want Belt independence and vowed to ignore the war as it isn't really our problem...
And in this exactly case, what are you planning to do? Storm the ship and fight soul on one-on-one? We should use any help that we can if the price isn't really high.
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>>1082792
oh, well ignore my vote then.
also he doesn't really know us?
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>>1082795
this.
i want to exploit both sides to hell and back
>>1082792
how the hell would he know we aren't talking about some civilian? for all he know's it's a martian were kidnaping not a jovian
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>>1082793
Do not explain it at first, give him a ride, let him speak and get info, then maybe reveal that we are from a third faction and could use some help on a special mission if they are interested, if he start naming prices and wanting too much as payment or something just say that we'll think about and drop him where he wants to go.
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>>1082795
Why the hell would you try to even go on the ship? Our initial duty was giving the invitation. Putting Roarke in the Avalonian camp by kidnapping a Jovian with Avalonian aid is a bad idea ESPECIALLY since Irina made it known we are a pirate. There are ways to get what we want. Even a trade using the Avalonian as the trade item, but as is, we want to not directly contest the navy.
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>>1082795

The problem is that allying with the Avalonians would make Mars and Jupiter see us as, you know, allies of the avalonians. Allies of their most hated enemies. Just chilling in the asteroid belt.

The moment the Kestrels openly work together with the Avalonians, is the moment that Fairchild gets carte blanche to destroy Auditorium, Psyche-16, and any man, woman or child affiliated with the Kestrels.
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>>1082805
>give him a ride

This is worth a vote itself, will you give Hector a ride? On the one hand, Avalonian. On the other hand, an Avalonian with nothing to gain from betraying you who might have information.
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>>1082820
sure
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>>1082820
We don't really need to (the other martians have a ride for him to steal probably) and we don't want to make it seem like we explicitly support Avalon. On the other hand a quick chat before we part ways could be beneficial, especially if we have to kidnap a certain sister and her badass squeeze.
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>>1082820

Nope,we have our own problems to deal with. besides, how would an Avalonian help us get onto a Jovian ship and deliver a message? It would make a lot more sense to just send Pierre, Ceasar or even Shuk over once the worst commotion has died down.
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>>1082820
>>give him a ride
he wont ever forget
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>>1082809
Man, Rosita asked Roarke to bring her sister to the wedding, she wanting it or not... and I don't see how we are going to do this so easily if her on that ship and everything.
And my plan isn't to really go all out with an avalonian alliance, is just to see if we can time our plan with one of their attacks and get the Jovians by their backs when they are least expecting it... Or getting info on the jovians with the Avalonians...
>>1082811
Fairchild herself is spreading the "Kestrels are allied with the SSL" view through the media... Doing this at this point would make her lose the only thing she got from that Psyche episode... and I'm saying to "MAKE THE AVALONIANS USE THEIR KNIGHTS FOR US" I'm just saying that we could use their plans on our advantage... Whats the point of being a third part if you can't use the other guys to fight one another?

Also, we are already on the run from the jovians forces and are going to get shit for kidnapping Irina anyway, attacking the Jovians by their backs or not is not going to help or image.

>>1082820
>Give him a ride.
But do not reveal much to him at first, try to get info out of him first before anything.
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>>1082820
Yeah sure.
also... how effective are scattershot incendiary rounds and how much of a pain is it to work out the damage?
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>>1082820
>>give him a ride
but we agree we mutually dont speak of this
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>>1082820
Disguise himself up again, no funny business, and worse case you have us as a hostage. If it comes to it, Moe's stalker would likely needle him to sleep and we get a negotiation tool.
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>>1082844
>and I'm NOT saying to "MAKE THE AVALONIANS USE THEIR KNIGHTS FOR US"
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>>1082855
This could work too...
But how are we going to trade him for Irina? "Hey, do you want to trade your best engineer for this POW? What could go wrong?"
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>>1082844
We'd try it. Emphasis on try. We know where she is and if the attempt to actually get her is too risky, there is no point in trying. Both may be sad if we fail, but both would be even sadder if we got caught, imprisioned or killed. Information in of itself from all thats happened will serve as a means to redeem this operation.
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>>1082820
>>1082820
Hey Wong, a quick question. How deep is the secrecy on SOUL-A's "undercover mission"? Are, for instance, captain Clearwater and colonel Luxol informed that their defection was just an undercover operation? If so, we could probably just send them in to talk to Irina.
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>>1082820
>A Muslim wanting to help an Avalonian
Pull my other leg
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>>1082820
Ride

But no revealing what we're here to do.

>>1082844
No. Because that's what Fairchild wants. She's forced to concede us 16-Psyche because we're more of a pain and strangely more effective against the Avalonian War effort. Not to mention the fact that we have Colonel Stern, General Hatsheput, and the Luxols protecting us indirectly We cooperate with Avalon to kidnap Irina, say goodbye to the welcome wagon on the Belt and hello 2 Wels and a Mekong on the doorstep of the Auditorium.

Let me emphasis one thing, WE ARE NOT READY TO FIGHT A WAR YET.
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>>1082878
I want to laugh at this Idea.... But after that part about bipedal mecha and bacon I can't see Moe as an Muslim anymore.

What can we call him instead now? Does he care about Roarke's gods of rock or Oda's metaphysical waifu?
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>>1082876
Here is the problem... We don't have how to know that... As it seems, both Ceasar and Pierre really believes that they're out for good, the only way to discover that again would be to spy on the jovians, get some high-rank officer with this info or Hack their ships... And everyone of the options is complicated.
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>>1082907
It doesn't matter if he's religious or not Martians hate the Greenmen for what they did to them during the war.

>>1082844
And for you other point Roarke is willing to work with a lot of people but I don't think he would ever work with people who follow the Lady considering what the Greenmen war did to his mom and the fact he said he would crucify one himself
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>>1082907
We call him Moe, Bacon Eater.
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>>1082907
It has been Established Moe is not a Muslim, He is a Pirate, So really we should not help him since he really did not help us.
I mean roarke treats avalon with indifference unless they are in his territory
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>>1082876

You have it backwards, perhaps. Fairchild hushed up the defection by claiming that SOUL A is on assignment, with enough mystery to make it seem like it's undercover. Those extremely in the know would be the only people who would realize it was a defection. Maybe, for instance, people with access to the Petronius and Archimedes and their respective crews?
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>>1082907
>What can we call him instead now?

The red blade
the fluffiest swordsman in the belt
Eater of cakes, destroyer of skulls

Or, you know, Moe.
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>>1082932
Annd those are the ships that came as reinforcements. Surprised they haven't found and strangled Jesus yet.
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>>1082932

Ok, that makes more sense. Certainly more than the idea of their defection being covered up with an "undercover infiltration", since that only works if most of your people don't know that it's an infiltration mission,

But more to the point, the Colonel probably knows, so just walking in will not work.
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>>1082926
I'm agreeing with Thunder here. We give Hector a ride, try to pry some info about him. Let him off this one time for helping out and consider the debt cancelled.
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>>1082954

Believe it or not aside from him shooting first (which he could officially justify as trying to get Caesar out of the way to stop Naomi), the sympathy on those ships might be more towards Jesus than Caesar WITH the limited information they have about what went down. Authority figures don't always care about your personal problems. It wouldn't be unreasonable for someone who isn't Naomi's boyfriend and confidante to go "she was a danger and you had a duty to arrest her. Altered HMIS systems that can control a human being? What are those?"
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>>1082905
Anon, I know that you are worried, but calm down, we are not going to use their troops or anything, just get some info out of them and maybe agree in a course of action that would be advantageous for both but that would not screw us by working with them or something...

I what I have in mind is to time our plan with what they have in mind to get the jovians when they are in trouble, or to give the Avalonians the time of our attack so that we can having they using the opportunity to make the mess even greater, allowing us to escape blaming it on "Oh, it seems that they were watching for an opening! How lucky for us!" or something.

We are NOT fighting alongside them, and definitely NOT protecting them against the Jovians.

Use them in our favor, do not get really involved, that is my plan.

I also would do the same the other way around if needed to, its true that I shill for Avalon but the Kestrels are much important to me in the end.

>>1082926
You guys were seducing Lori and being a bro with the Duke much before even joined, Roarke hates the Greenman but he didn't go out of his way to crush everyone of the Avalonians in Psyche-16 because of it, remember that cockpit that ejected and almost got smashed by Priest-san... But you guys could prove me wrong or something, the thing is that I find that hard to believe after the Lori thing... Which happened even before I joined the game.
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Guys, please, if you cast a vote link to the post where I asked for a vote. It makes it much easier to count than when you link someone else's post and go "I agree with them" or just state your opinion without linking anything.
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>>1082975
We were never being a "bro" to Kirito he had us out gunned we went and talked to him listen to what he said and then immediately decided we didn't want to side with him. Lori was just Roarke wanting to trick her into following us back to Auditorium so we could capture her. Then we found out she was pretty and Roarke can't control his dick around pretty women who are good pilots
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>>1082989
and mechanics
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>>1082977
Ok.
Hey Wong... If the jovian mechanics and engineers get the Knights on the dam, how much time would take for adapting them with other weapons and such? Could we make use of them in time for battle? What would be the jovians opinion on using them to increase our number of mechas?
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>>1082975
>Agree in a course of action that would be advantageous for both

Which would link us the Iron Kestrels to Avalon when Irina "magically" appearing at the Space Jam. Which of course gives the Jovian Senate the go ahead to Greenlight a strike force against the Auditorium.
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>>1082999
Aside from fortifaction buffers or defensive weapon placements/traps, knights are not really useful and the time frame is too short to work on them. Might work as a decoy by making the enemy assume the dam is still theirs, but not much else.
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“It's a long story and we're short on time.” You haul the three unconscious Martians up away from where anything could fall on this. “Suffice to say this man has issues with my former employer and her husband, who is my current employer. Unfortunately, those issues have burdened his journey all the way to Qu'lir, alas.”

The brawny man in the raincoat nods, “I see. It's a familiar situation to me. You see, my liege-lord and my wife's liege-lady are political enemies with wildly different viewpoints. In fact, she's probably the reason he got sent on such a damned dangerous mission in the first place. Don't tell Liza, but I'm quite sure there IS a factional difference between those most loyal to the Queen and those most loyal to the Lady.”

You frown, “If your masters are enemies, how ever did you secure their blessing for marriage?” This is a problem you have, too, given the fact that Regina isn't just part of the Jovian military but someone occupying an extremely prestigious role in it.

He winks, “I forgot to ask for it. Besides, I know the Duke would approve, he's a good sort.”

The two of you share a hearty chuckle. He doesn't seem like a bad person to you, he doesn't even seem to be hiding anything. For the cultist of an abomination that needs to be purged, you rather like him...but you suppose even good people can be brainwashed with enough cultural reinforcement. People like him, and like poor Countess le Kennedy, make you want to put your monosword through the Lady's heart all the more. Awful people being taken advantage of by an awful person, like the Green Skulls being taken advantage of by General Fairchild, are bad enough. Decent people being used as pawns to be callously discarded light-years from home in the name of fanaticism makes your blood boil, it harkens back to the dark old days of your people before the Nuclear Conflict, before the nation of India unleashed atomic fire upon Mecca and Medina in revenge for the atomic weapon detonated in their capital.

“Ah, by the way.” He asks once he recovers, “What's an Iron Kestrel?”

“A bird native to a certain asteroid belt.” You reply, smoothly.

He raises his eyebrows, “Must be a funny sort of bird. By the way, my manners are slipping. Sir Hector Van Damme, at your service.” He bows.

You bow back, “Mohammed Al-Tabir, and you have already done me a service.”

“In that case...mind giving me a ride? Just out of the city, I promise no tricks. You're giving me a rather suspicious look.” Hector smiles, gathering up his groceries...then looking up, up over the buildings, his smile vanishing, “By the Lady, he's gone and got a bigger one.”

[Continued]
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>>1082989
Okay, but what about that cockpit guy? He didn't surrender, he just got ejected by force, why did we spare him? Why didn't we fight to the death with Morgana, we could have killed her if we wanted to as she even expected it.

The way I see it, it seems more like Roarke hates the Lady but don't really hate her followers just for being stupid enough to fall into her plans and fighting for their nation, or he would just kill everyone of them without any mercy or chance of surrender like we did to the greenskulls.

>>1083011
>Which would link us the Iron Kestrels to Avalon when Irina "magically" appearing at the Space Jam.
Bro, just...What?
We aren't going to use them to steal Irina, from where did you get that? The plan is to MAYBE using them for distraction, either to attack or to escape, doing things that we could blame on "watching for an opening" or on "spies", not by sending them to kidnap her for us!

And that is just a possibility, it heavily depends on what info we get from him on this ride.
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>>1083042
Just because he doesn't kill people who surrender doesn't means he will work with the group
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>>1083034
Now THIS is useful info. Two factions with one for the Queen and one for the Lady. If we weaken the Lady faction but strengthen the Queen faction, then we could possibly divide Avalon and keep it functional after dealing with the Green Lady. Also, looks like the Delphinus is getting a show.
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>>1083059
Wasn't his main objetive just to sick both of them on each other and make money on their war?

Also, the guy on the cockpit DIDN'T surrendered, he decided on fighting to the death, then received a powerplant hit and had his cockpit taken out by his commander... In fact, we denied him death and made him live in deshonor... Also, we killed even the greenskulls that ejected, why didn't we did the same on the Avalonians if we hate them like greenman?
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>>1083042
MAYBE using them for distraction, either to attack or to escape, doing things that we could blame on "watching for an opening" or on "spies", not by sending them to kidnap her for us!

Let see headlines:

>AVALON ATTACK ON QU'LIR GARRISON, HEAD RESEARCHER MISSING IN ACTION

>MISSING HEAD RESEARCHER FOUND AT AUDITORIUM! IS RED SIREN A GREEN MAN SYMPATHIZER?

Yeah, if we kidnap Irina during an Avalon attack, that's what will give Fairchild the opening to take us out with overwhelming firepower.
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>>1083086
Because he was our prisoner not Josiah's. And the Avalonians haven't done enough to us for us to murder everyone we meet. The Greenskulls killed our friends and Captain.
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>>1083104
Personally, my main reservations with helping Avalon are tactical. I actually like them at least as much as Jupiter, and more than Mars.
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>>1083111
As far as I'll ever be concerned fuck everyone who isn't us especially Avalon but ESPECIALLY MARS
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>>1083111
If the Duke is from the Queen faction, then I respect them more than the Lady Faction.. which can explode if they don't see whats wrong with this whole thing. Think Belph would go for the Lady too if he believes in the strong.
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>>1083089
>We attack the ship or something
>Take Irina and make a run for it
>Before SOUL appears Avalon attacks another target and make them decide on either follow us or protect their ships/soldiers.

OR

>Avalon attacks on another place.
>SOUL goes there
>Then we attack the place where Irina is and kidnap her when they are occupied fighting.

We can blame this on just observing them and waiting to get an opening, or on having a spy that notified us on when they got out of the ship.

Or "Look, the avalonian spies leaked vital info on your problems again".

It doesn't automatically puts the heat on us.


>AVALON ATTACK ON QU'LIR GARRISON, HEAD RESEARCHER MISSING IN ACTION

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, like the Iron Kestrels are subtle when they kidnap someone... Remember last time? We destroyed a entire music room, had a duel with a professional fighter, Made a cinematografic scene with the Kaiser appearing from nothing and even made Keith pass out from light-years of distance with just a text...

We both know that this is going to be crazy even if we opt for trying black ops on them.

>>1083104
So we don't hate them like the greenman, this is what I'm pointing at.
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>>1083133
And I'm saying Roarke will never work with them or side with them because they're lead by a Greenman
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“Ah-ha! That's great! I felt a bit bad about last time...” Hector's brow furrows, “But that thing is just...it's too much. Now I'm the one that feels at a disadvantage.”

You turn around and spot what's clearly a pair of SOUL machines raining plasma fire down on a target in the streets, presumably the berserk mech, “More SOUL mecha? The UJCIDF is going to go bankrupt at this rate.” You grumble.

“Be nice.” Shukriya scolds you, pulling on your ear, “They're making them for us in the long run.” She comments with a smile almost innocent enough to cover up her real meaning. Loot. As clingy as she is, you suddenly want to give her a big kiss. You settle for a hug, which seems to satisfy her.

“Soul? Those things don't have any soul. They're not Paladins, whatever they are.” Hector crosses his arms, “That one, there, the one that doesn't look like a frog.” A smaller mecha zips around the two big ones, with the slender forward-thrust head reminiscent of the old Palomino series, “Not that one. The blue one with the cross-shaped sensor slit, that's the Blue Knight's strider.”

You frown, “Who is this Blue Knight, again?”

Hector chuckles, “The top ace of the Gas Knights and by far my favorite Jovian. It's nice to see the solar aborigines have learned some chivalry, as if you weren't an indicator of that, little friend.” He ruffles your hair again.

You gently but firmly push his hand away, “Thank you. You may ride with us out of the city, if you don't mind telling us about the situation on this planet.” Even though you are resolved not to besmirch the reputation of the Iron Kestrels or endanger your fleet's position in the Belt by directly working with Avalon information is still information and always useful. Besides, if the rest of your group does support kidnapping Irina Kim or whatever she calls herself over simply enduring a disappointed Red Siren's inevitable tantrum, it's not collusion to quietly abduct her during the middle of an offensive operation against Avalon that leaves her ship lightly defended...right?

As for your tastes, you think the Zulfiqar is the pinnacle of efficient mecha design. This one is a bit less symmetrical, but it's stylish in its own way, you're aware of your biases. Aside from your unconditional love for your own mech, your favorite SOUL units are those like the Flowerhorn and S-Betta that favor subtle weapon placement.

[Continued in an hour so Wong can eat]
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>>1083133
There's a difference.
>Remember last time? We destroyed a entire music room, had a duel with a professional fighter, Made a cinematografic scene with the Kaiser appearing from nothing and even made Keith pass out from light-years of distance with just a text...

One's the action of dashing rogue who are against the Authority but still is a patriot to his home nation. The other's a traitor who aided the enemies of the nation to sabotage the war effort.
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>>1083129
Ah yes TB. Fuck them or FUCK them.

This is basically Thunderbird in a post. Kill or seduce.
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>>1083152
Family comes first
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>>1083150
"Odd. I was under the impression that the top Jovian ace was Colonel Stern. He fought the Duke and his escorts over Mars singlehanded."
Lets scare the crap out of him for giggles.
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I'm just putting this out there. I will not condone a kidnapping operation on Irina until someone can convince me or put together a plan that will not implicate the Iron Kestrels are allied with Avalon.
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>>1083133
Wouldn't you use your enemies to make them screw each other and make your life easier? Specially when you dislike their leaders?
We aren't "helping" them, we can work with one and the other just to screw both of them...

But there is another question, Roarke doesn't really know about this, but he would probably use the faction split between them to his advantage, even more if he can use it to directly screw the lady by making her lose political influence on her on planet... And while he don't even know about it yet, he already saw that even a paladin started to have doubts when he confronted with reality, and this could give him ideas on the possible applications of this fact... In other words, it is not impossible to sabotage her influence, and this could be a weapon of personal revenge or justice for him to use against her.
But to make it work, you would need to have at least some contact with them, thats why I want to have the belt as neutral ground even for avalonians if possible... IF they aren't trying to dominate us.
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>>1083042
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There is no money in killing them, Or in those cases ransoming them back is better
>>1083086 Don't hate Avalonians, Hate their leader, Until that Immortal bitch is dead there will be no working with them
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>>1083188
>>1083143
Oops, linked to the wrong post
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>>1083133
just observing them and waiting to get an opening
>Or we could actually just watch and wait for an opening
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>>1083193
They would also have to admit their god was a giant shithead and deserved to be executed
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>>1083181
>>1083150
Absolutely. Bonus points if we mention some crazy rumor about a boxer fleeing his wrath long ago.
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>>1083185

I'm obviously not taking sides, but I will point out that Lysa Fleur is a Jovian asset too.
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>>1083208
No point salting the wound there thunder, Her just being dead would be enough
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>>1083227
Problem with that is their still allied with a monster that almost destroyed humanity. And if we do kill any Avalonian that still believe in her will want to kill us super hard and most moderates would still dislike us. The only way we can work with them is if they realize how shitty the Greenmen are.
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>>1083223
wait i thought the pink haired jovian had not much of an ass
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>>1083223
Lysa Fleur has a prior engagement at the Auditorium and it's still in line with the dashing, rebellious rogue image we have.
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>>1083215
>>1083150
I approve. Horror stories of Col. Stern is a must.
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>>1083238
But they are subserviant to her not allied, Also What made you think i was suggesting WE kill her, The jovians will do that on their own.
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>>1083326
They love her and almost all of them are willing to kill themselves in her name. And because we already said we would if we ever met her and come on this is a mech anime, we're going to end up fighting her
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>>1083150
>>1083181
This
>>1083193
The ransoming part might be true, but we wouldn't ransom Fairchild or First Mate, so we don't really hate the Avalons per se... and about working with them I don't exactly agree, as negotiating with the Duke isn't working in favor to the Lady, and just helping the jovians and martians against them would end with both of them forcing us into a vassal state by pressing us from both sides... And there is the fact that the Lady actually wins if Duke Kirito dies in his mission as he is her most powerfull opposition inside the paladins, but Roarke doesn't know that.

I think we should be open to negotiations and offers when it go in favor to our objectives... And that we could pull a bahamutcorp on these guys and try to avoid having the Duke killed, as his presence make everyone focus on them and give us more freedom of operations.
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>>1083338
You mean the second strongest Paladin who she raised up? The one whose only goal is to be back home with his wife and kid? That Paladin?
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>>1083261
Irina has even more reason to be there, and we can be even more dashing if we went to another system and kidnaped her during a battle when we were risking getting shot by both sides.

>>1083335
At this point I'm not certain on it, I expected to have Roarke fighting her... But that is getting more and more harder to belive when taking in consideration that he isn't goin to be the POV in generation two.

I think that this is going to depend on how far wong will let this plot go, and how relevant its going to be in the next generation, because after the Duke goes away.... What reason will we have to take our armies there to end the war and risk losing what we already have here?

>>1083387
Remeber his backstory, he isn't faithful as his wife, is skeptical with all the mysticism and ooga-booga, wasn't even to be here, is a Duke and more loyal to the Queen than to the Lady... And was send to a suicidal mission with the two of the most problematic Paladins.

My guess is that the lady plans to make him a martyr and to get even more inside his wife head when he is gone, making her a even more powerfull paladin and sending her to get revenge on Sol.

I also bet that she has things to win in the case Lori and her cousin die, I'm almost certain of it.

...And if you want to see her like an old one with centuries of experience to call upon, she could even have handpicked everyone on their ships to cause a certain result on this mission and maybe even Victor is a piece on her bizzare and complex plan.
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>>1083387
Perhaps, but from the sounds of it, being raised up does not mean devotion to the point of stupidity. Of the higher paladins we met, He's the more moderate of the lot and seems more for the Queen. Having those who support their country over their 'god' will help. Especially if it means fracturing the power base. Remember, Roland also fancies the Queen. If 2 of the top 4 Paladins with Seniority go 'Fuck the Goddess, the Queen is more important', then we may be able to divide them. Makes the final strike on the green lady easier and snuffs Fairchild's plans in that regard.
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You help the Avalonian load his groceries into the trunk of the groundcar and he climbs into the backseat, while you take up the driver's position and Shukriya rides shotgun, “That's odd.” You comment, “I was under the impression that the Jovian top ace is Colonel Ziemowit Stern. He reputedly dueled Duke Eustace of the big golden mech singlehandedly over Mars, according to a man who was there.”

“And he survived?” Hector stares, flabbergasted.

“By all accounts he came as close to winning as possible, but the man I heard it from said both were damaged, and he's one of Stern's pupils. This Blue Knight is a decent pilot, but the Jovians have much better ones. The Butcher, for instance.”

“She retired.” Hector is quick to respond.

You shoot him a suspicious look, “How did you know that? For that matter, how did you know that the Butcher is a she? One would normally assume that to be a man's nickname.”

He shrugs, “I heard it from a certain well-traveled man. The story goes that the Butcher was a Jovian heroine of extreme beauty and ferocity, more devil than woman, yet love softened her heart and when she fell on the battlefield she abandoned war to pursue the object of her affections.”

“That's remarkably detailed.” You confess, “Except for the part where you make it sound like falling in love turned her into a demure, blushing maiden instead of a love-crazed efreeti with a blade.”

“You sound like you know her.” Hector remarks.

“I do.” You reply, “I've crossed swords with her.” And you have the bruises to remember it by.

The Avalonian laughs, “By the Lady, I can hear you wincing. I confess, I wasn't quite ranking Gas Knight aces by skill with a strider, but rather by how well they lead and work with their resources. It's one thing to win a duel, it's quite another to retake an entire captive ship with one companion and nonlethal rounds.”

“What about destroying an entire pirate fleet with one Bluegill and a sword?” You query.

He raises his eyebrows, “Anyone who can do that would be a terrifying foe, whatever a Bluegill is.”

“The little cute ones with the cute bucket shaped heads and cute monoeyes and cute little legs that remind me of cute little boots.” Shukriya clarifies.

“That's one.” You point at one of the local defense force's mecha as it rumbles along an adjacent street.

“In one of those!?” Hector stares, “That's tiny!”

“Even the greatest pirate of the Solar System has taken pains to avoid entering battle with Stern.” You nod your head wisely, “Even devils fear him.”

“By the Lady...” The knight slumps back into his seat, his face pale.

“Did you message Pierre?” You ask Shukriya quietly.

She nods, “He's waiting for us, take this route...and he'll be here.” She displays a holomap on her PC. You adjust your course to match her route, relieved that the worst of the tremors seem to be over and done with.

[Continued]
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>>1083465
That would work if the queen isn't all for the lady. If she is I doubt Roland and Kirito will betray her and without those two no one else will rebel
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>>1083471
Stern OP pls nerf
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>>1083471
colonel stern is a god damn badass and one of the only reasons i don't want to destroy the jovians.
the avalonians are right to fear him.
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>>1083474
We don't know the exactly situation yet... But there is a chance of persuading them to do a "intervention" on the queen if they learn about the spores and start getting paranoid over it.

>>1083471
Tell him about the butcher... Them tell him about Lori, lets see if he breaks under the shadow of the Black Ogre!
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>>1083505
>Stern OP pls never nerf

FTFY.
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>>1083523
He knows a lot about clemmy already, and moe already let on that she's still as fierce a fighter as ever in that same post.
telling him about Lori would be pushing it too hard, I think we've said enough, anymore than this and we're the one letting info slip.
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>>1083471
It's only appropriate that the man with 11 in his pilot skill should be a legend.
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>>1083471
>>1083523
actualy i would love to tell story's of the black ogre, knuckle kaiser whatever.
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“So, how is Qu'lir treating you?” You enquire.

The knight sighs, “Poorly. Ostensibly, the Solar forces are attempting a soft takeover of this world, and because of their cultural stance on genemodded humans a resistance faction formed. It was initially nativist, and if I had my way it would've stayed that way. Sadly, I'm not in charge on this planet. In keeping with our government's policy, we came here to train Qu'lir's people to defend themselves and give them the means to seek independence...but then Count Lucas Ford was placed in charge.” He scowls, “Count Ford believes that this is all propaganda, and his cynical views cause him to view this as a pure duel for control over Qu'lir and its resources between the Solars and Avalon, with the natives as nothing but pieces. I don't understand what the Lady is thinking, sending two fanatical Paladins to this world instead of my Duke or the warrior Belegor. The Duke is a true hero, and despite Belegor's brutality he has no interest in titles or influence beyond defeating every enemy that stands in his way. He is respected by his subordinates and could undoubtedly have marshaled a more effective defense. Or he would simply have killed every solar aborigine in his path. I would take his blunt pursuit of his own dark dream over Ford's twisted charisma any day. Initially, this world was a side-thought to the true war, but then tragedy struck. A second paladin, the fanatic witch Duchess Maria Carnegie, the rival of my own master...and again, don't breathe a word of this to Liza or I'll be sleeping alone for a month...the mother-in-law of nightmares herself, was dispatched here to acquire a specific person. Apparently our sources in the Solar System delivered information that the youngest son of Jupiter's highest noble had a psychological profile indicating potential sympathy for our cause. Now, Count Ford believes that the goal of retrieving him was to make him a Paladin, cast out poor Countess le Kennedy of the fallen Anseis and abandon her to the wolves, and break the morale of Jupiter with one of their own princes at the forefront of our army...but I do not agree. I think it was hoped that, perhaps, he could serve as a bridge between our peoples and negotiate a peace. This constant escalation of the war, this squabbling over worlds and colonies, all it will do is bring back the horrors of the conflict that erased the Lady's people. I cannot believe she would seek such a thing again. Instead of either scenario, the worst possible thing happened.”

“What's that?” You ask, suspecting you might already know.

[Continued]
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>>1083620
Bad Formatting Mr.Wong. Wallotext hurts my eyes.
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>>1083620
You, uh, might want to split this one up a bit more Wong.
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Hector smiles bitterly, “The Duchess was shot down and taken prisoner by the Blue Knight. Suddenly, this planet became important to the Jovians, a symbol of their strength and determination. That is why they dispatched additional forces here, likely in hopes of bagging another Paladin. I fear without reinforcements of our own we will inevitably lose this world, and if we get them Qu'lir will vanish into an ocean of blood as both sides refuse to yield.” He shakes his head, "I dream of a galaxy of free planets, with no empires and no superpowers...but it is only a dream. I am a man grown, and such a thing may never be possible. I have to live in the real world, in what exists."

“How much do you know about the Countess' loss, speaking of downed Paladins?” You inquire.

He grins wryly, “Enough to know that an Iron Kestrel is a strange bird of the asteroids indeed, and that Mohammed Al-Tabir tells the truth as opaquely as possible.”

You nod silently, acknowledging the point. Up ahead, you see Pierre, his civilian clothes stained and thoroughly disheveled, a rain poncho keeping the downpour off of him. He looks up with a grumpy expression on his face, spots you, and gives you a desultory smile and wave as you slow to a stop.

“Took you long enough. Did you run into any trouble?” He grumbles, climbing into the groundcar.

Hector gives him a cheerful wave, “Hail, friend, I hope you weren't too drenched.”

[Continued]
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>>1083663
>>1083674

And now it's too late. I'm sorry, guys, I would have deleted it and reformatted it if I hadn't already posted the rest.
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Awyes it's Moe time.
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>>1083708
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>>1083708
one supped up Exia
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>>1083680
>Hector gives him a cheerful wave, “Hail, friend, I hope you weren't too drenched.”
Wong is making me like him more and more...

What do you guys think that we should ask next? Should we throw a bone to him and see how him reacts?

Wong, please tell us when we are approaching the end of the ride, as we are probably going to wait to end before being more talkative...

For now, lets see how these two will interact... And hope that they don't end in a duel or something...
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>>1083731

Now would be a good time. Or, rather, after the next post.
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I still feel guilty about that formatting, were most of you able to get through that wall of text alright? I just now realized it might be pretty awful for phone users.
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>>1083766
I'm on my laptop, luckily. I just highlight lines I've already gone over. It makes it a lot easier to read.
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>>1083766
I'm alright. I am use to much worse and doing so myself. Just take it as some advice and keep with doing a good story.
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>>1083766
>>1083776
same
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>>1083034
>> it harkens back to the dark old days of your people before the Nuclear Conflict, before the nation of India unleashed atomic fire upon Mecca and Medina in revenge for the atomic weapon detonated in their capital.

I see Cyborg Ghandi lives in this timeline, truly the darkest timeline yet best.
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>>1083766
It was just a bit hard to read in a moving vehicle but no sweat wong.

>>1083731
The thing is what should we mention. And I am rather curious about the intention to bring back garma to negotiate a peace settlement.
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>>1083791
It's funny how while we worry about people not dying making this entire scenario seem 'dull' by anime standards, but then you realize that after ALLLL the shit humanity has been through including the Revenge of Ghandi, green men, and losing 2/3rds in general, being easy on the murder is probably one of the more logical steps for humanity.
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Does the Zuqlifar look like this now?
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>>1083791

There's also the fact that India and Pakistan both have nukes, share a border, and despise the ever-living fuck out of each other. For real I think they're more dangerous than North Korea.

Let's just pretend the Civ reference was intentional, shall we?
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>>1083842
Agreed, most likely it would have been one of the provisions of any Conventions done in regards war drafted by the survivors.
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>>1083850
To be fair, even Japan's military is more dangerous than North Korea's. And their aircraft carries can only carry attack helicopters.
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>>1083801
Stories of the past are cool and all but we really need to discover what is their next step...

I think that we could try to shill him for the Kestrels, be shady about Roarke's relation to the Duke and try have him play along into feeding us info by telling him things that aren't much important, like what the Kestrels really are... What happened to the butcher, Stein background, the invasion of mars... You know, adventure stories with superficial serious info.

... We could also try to spill the truth about why we are here, but I'm not sure about how far we should go on this.
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>>1083850
Oh it was Wong, I suspect you and I share a hive mind somewhere out there given our shared Jesta love.
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>>1083847
Wait... Did you paint that yourself?
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>>1083842

People are still dying in this war, for sure, the Kestrels just haven't taken many losses because Roarke is awesome at being Roarke and has also avoided killing SSL troops so far. Now that I think about it, there's been rather a lot of death, it's just generally been offscreen when it hasn't been happening to people Roarke absolutely needed to kill.

>>1083863

I love the Jesta so much I retconned it out of being the Palomino II to make it the SOUL MP Mustang.
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>>1083872
Ah, no my Exia is just metallic Blue on Blue, some random guy on internet, BR :)
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It's not something you think people often notice about Pierre Blanchett, he's not the unbluffable, subtle creature his sister is, but you have come to realize after spending some time in his company that Pierre Blanchett is a natural squad leader for a good many reasons and one of them is his remarkable perceptiveness. Unlike the unfortunate Lieutenant Rabban, he doesn't need to hear the sentence repeated. He leans across Hector and pulls the handle for the door on that side, making it swing open as he throws his weight against the Avalonian, “Out, veggie-lover!”

“Steady on, I was invited!” Hector shoves back, grappling with Pierre. He still nearly gets thrown right out of the groundcar, but manages just barely to stay inside, one foot hooked under the seating bench and a hand tightly gripping the internal ceiling gunrack this model came with.

“I don't know what you're playing at or trying to talk the kids into, but the ONLY reason I'm not dragging you to those cruisers parked outside the city and telling them to give you their least-comfortable cell is because I've got business of my own here.” Pierre gets a canoe-sized boot planted on Hector's chest, “Out out out out OUT!”

You try to focus on driving and not on the wrestling match going on in the backseat as Hector twists and angles his body to absorb the force of Pierre's kicks on his armored civilian-model flightsuit, a Jovian design that stands out a lot less than the more knightly variants you've seen on Loriette's people. Shukriya, though, turns around with a scowl and snatches Hector's shock baton, “Boys, behave!” She brandishes it at them, and they both shrink away from it to huddle on the bench trying to avoid her scolding swings and the tirade of angry feminine Arabic denouncing them as savages and brigands.

“Shuk, stop that, those really hurt.” You wince, and pat her thigh.

She sighs and smiles at you, “Only because you asked me to. Those two are spoiling our extended date.”

“Extended date?” Hector asks Pierre.

The Jovian shrugs, “Don't ask me. I don't know. I don't wanna know. She insisted on coming along and according to her cousin, who I've seen for myself is a damned good pilot, little Shukriya here is a pretty deft hand with jetform mecha. We thought she'd be useful for scouting.”

Shukriya smiles sweetly, “Jet combat is a lovely and feminine hobby and the best way to support my cute Mohammed.”

Pierre and Hector trade uneasy glances.

>[Anything else you want to bring up with Hector before you let him off outside the city limits?]
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>>1083896
Oh, okay...
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>>1083881
>>1083842

It's still a good point though that there's a BIT less emphasis on killing with the population so reduced.
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>>1083901
>Nothing, you don't want to betray the trust of the Admiral by going out information that isn't yours to give out
Moe isn't a squealer
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>>1083901
So....Hector, Shuk wants a pet Veggie lover.....
I mean err Avalonian.
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>>1083901
>tell some stories on how (rightly) awesome the admiral is.
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>>1083901
Moe moe you have got a fucking keeper here
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>>1083901
>they both shrink away from it to huddle on the bench trying to avoid her scolding swings and the tirade of angry feminine Arabic denouncing them as savages and brigands

Say nothing. Hector just SEEMS stupid.
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>>1083901
>Jet combat is a lovely and feminine hobby

Hakim Best Caliph. Of all time.
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>>1083901
Mention that there is talk of free lands in the belt that will most likely remain neutral in the war. He can take it or leave it, but either way it is what it is.
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>>1083901
"You talked much about the past, effendi, but what about the future? Strange birds of the asteroid like us wouldn't want to get in a cross-fire while we're staying here... And I think that if your Duke is like what the Admiral told us, he wouldn't want that either."

Do not confirm anything, but imply that our misfortune wouldn't be in the best interest of his Duke... What is partially true, as he seems to not want to have kestrel blood on his hands for now... And try to see if he would like to be a buddy and tell us sweet and useful info.
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As a second choice...

>[Be cold to Shukriya and tease her]
>[Be warm to Shukriya and give her affection]
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>>1083950
>[Warmly tease her]
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>>1083950
>[Be warm to Shukriya and give her affection]
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>>1083950
>>[Be warm to Shukriya and give her affection]
But not much, don't want to spoil her.
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>>1083952
>>1083950
dis
light teasing in a kind and loving manner
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>>1083950
>[Be warm to Shukriya and give her affection]
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>>1083949
He's not going to betray his homeland stop trying to get everyone to join us. That's how you get spies in your organization who will try to assassinate you which is exactly what happened
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>>1083950
>Warmly tease Shukriya
Unleash All that you have learned from The Admiral
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>>1083950
>>1083952
Seconded.
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>>1083957
We'll not just teasing her, we'll be teasing the two in the backseat. Because 'get a room'
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People, I know that friendly chat with Hector is cool, but we have to make him spill something out, something more usefull than just that, even if we need to give some info too in exchange.

>>1083964
I never said that we should interact with him again, just try to take out the info we can for now and leave him be, conspiring for long isn't worthy enough for the risk.
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>>1083950
>>[Be warm to Shukriya and tease her]

Honestly, Wong. Were you expecting anything else from the great-disciple of the Legendary Ozark?
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>>1083972
Almost every person in the military who knows any important information and isn't an emotional teenager won't let info slip. They get trained how to never do that.
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>>1083901
Perhaps we could mention that if the intent to sue for peace is sincere, he could send word to his duke to try sending someone to the belt.

It wont be a fast thing but with pirates being a more relatively neutral 3rd party in the conflict, save preventing another incursion of green men, it could be a neutral meeting ground.
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>>1083982
>never

Hahaha, no. You resist until you hit your line, you give them as little as possible when you do break, and you make them start back from the beginning when they come back. The only thing never gets you is a bullet to the brain.
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>>1083982
Part of the point of SERE training is to show that you always break. Its only a matter of time.
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>>1083982
There is no problem in trying, he knows that we aren't friends of sol after seeing that fight there, and probably already suspects of our involvement with Roarke, worst case he is just going to say no, thanks us and go away... Best case he will give us a tip and maybe try to propose something, which we can just deny.

We have nothing to lose, and other anons want to just tell him some adventure stories and maybe make him a better Roarke impersonificator
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>>1083991
>>1084005
Really? Didn't know that, thought for the most part they trained you to give nothing and just take the bullet for your country. Learn something new everyday.
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>>1083731
You tend to like literally anything avalon.
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>>1084026
dead soldiers make for pretty bad soldiers. Likewise, knowing your limit and supplying little information prevents them from doing big things and giving them a lot of information when you break.
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>>1083881
>I love the Jesta so much I retconned it out of being the Palomino II to make it the SOUL MP Mustang.

Which one is the Mustang again?

And I too love the Jesta.
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>>1084055
But point is he won't give us any worthwhile info right?
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>>1084059
the point is to last as long as you can for rescue to come for you
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>>1084026
Part of what they train you in is techniques to increase your resistance and how to disassemble and give half truths before you give in.

This way at least your captors will get any time sensitive data late enough that it doesnt matter.
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>>1084041
It is more because of his personality than Avalonian elements.
>>1084059
He probably isn't going to give us any info that could be used against him and his people, but there is a chance of him getting curious about the reason we are here and see this as an opportunity... If we bait him into thinking that we mean trouble for his enemies.

And we are trouble, and have no reason to try to hide it now that Irina has warned them about us.
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>>1084059
Yes, but not for the reason you're thinking. It's literally not worthwhile because the benefit of true intelligence is almost always outweighed by the time cost. Even if you get something good out of a prisoner, there's always the chance that it has become outdated and that chance increases every minute he's in captivity.

Professional interrogators have jobs for a reason.
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>>1084056

Well, while all of the non-MP SOUL mecha are individuals, most have the same frame. All Bahamutcorp Medium-Weighters use the Bass frame (advanced melee versions have Light Heavy arms), while the Bucephalus ones use the Mustang frame. You've seen almost no new Mustangs so far, though, because the Mustang is literally a remake of the Thoroughbred MP and until recently they were doing things like using a War-era Thoroughbred MP to construct the S-Flowerhorn or copying Thoroughbred-X to make the S-Slinger.

MP SOUL mecha don't have individual project names, they're called something like "Bass Trooper" or "Mustang Sniper".

One early Mustang frame, incidentally, is in the Zulfiqar.
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>>1084092
Admittedly, Interrogators who operate on Psychology are FAR more effective than this who use torture.
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>>1084083
An opportunity for what? He isn't going to betray Avalon most people won't betray their country and family just because someone was nice to them.

>>1084092
Interesting, thanks for the info anon
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>>1084097
Huh, interesting.

Is the Mustang a Mediumweight mech then?
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>>1083338
Also I missed this Post, But Brazil Negotiating is not the same as working with. Negotiation is fine, But Actual cooperation? no. as i said before Roarke as we have played him views Wider Avalon itself with indifference,but hates the lady, Also How could mars and Jove press us from both sides when we are on the outside of them?

And it would be retarded of them to consider doing so since it would ruin the status quo if anything Mars will eventually try to invade, and jove will either support us or stay neutral
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Shukriya looks at you sidelong, seeming a little hurt, “Did I say something strange?”

You find yourself smiling a little. It's true you miss Regina. It's true that Shukriya has spent much of your time together prior to you becoming a pirate finding new and creative ways to annoy you. It's true she stalks you and doesn't always remember you have personal space. Still, the Admiral was right, you don't want to hide in a cupboard from her. You're objective enough to admit that you've grown really used to having her around, that she's a piece of your life whether she forced her way in there or not...and you're glad she did. You shake your head sorrowfully, “Only when you called this an extended date.” You frown, “I thought all of our time together since Mars had been one long date? Did you have other reasons for leaving the homeworld? Alas, my poor pride is crushed underfoot, I thought I was the reason you came to space.”

She squeals, covering her mouth, “M-M-Moe!? Oh no, no you do not understand, I came to be with you! I wanted you back! Pirates can take everything else, but I won't give you up even if I have to become a villain or worse, lose all inheritance and lands!” She promises. It would be threatening if she didn't have such a cute expression.

Pierre makes a retching sound. Hector clears his throat loudly, “Sir Mohammed, we're still here...” You gloriously ignore them both.

By Allah, how have you spent so much time moping? You can and WILL get Regina, but you are a disciple of the Black Ogre! A disciple of the Black Ogre does not close his heart in the face of obstacles, he opens it! You casually, blatantly put your arm around her, “Space is too cold for me without you. I couldn't ask you to leave Mars, or even think of it, but I'm glad you came.”

Her lower lip wobbles, “Moeeeee~”

>[Lay it on thick]
>[Show restraint]
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>>1083850
Let's be honest, North Korea will never be a real threat.

And while India despises Pakistan, Indian foreign policy is much more concerned with China and Russia.
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>>1084121
>>[Show restraint]
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>>1084121
>[Show restraint]

A true warrior knows his limits. We have not yet attained the glorious heights of our master.

And while Moe might be following the Path of Ozark, he's still, well, Moe.
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>>1084110

Technically it's a frame, but it's also a mech, yes, if you're referring to the MP versions...although really you could say all new-model Bahamutcorp Medium Weight machines are Mustangs since they technically retired the Thoroughbred MP line. Every mech Roarke has identified as "an S-Slayer", and Irina made the same mistake so you can't blame him for it, is basically a Mustang.
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>>1084123
You underestimated their hate. India and Pakistan is basically an extended civil war.
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>>1084121
>>[Lay it on thick]
Imagine your talking to your mech Moe
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>>1084121
>[Show restraint]

I wonder what Caesar is up to.
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>>1084121
>By Allah, how have you spent so much time moping? You can and WILL get Regina, but you are a disciple of the Black Ogre! A disciple of the Black Ogre does not close his heart in the face of obstacles, he opens it! You casually, blatantly put your arm around her, “Space is too cold for me without you. I couldn't ask you to leave Mars, or even think of it, but I'm glad you came.”
Fuck yeah Moe.

>[Show restraint]
But we do have to check in with Regina before going full martian marriage.
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>>1084137
oh jesus
>>1084121
>[Lay it on thick]
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>>1084121

For once I'm casting a vote.

>[Lay it on thick]
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>>1084121
>[Show restraint]
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>>1084133
Hummm. I want to steal some.
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>>1084121
>>[Lay it on thick]
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>>1084121
>[Lay it on thick]
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>>1084121
>>[Lay it on thick]
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>>1084121
>>[Lay it on thick]
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>>1084121
>[Lay it on thick]
I want to make both Avalonian and Jovian feel the discomfort and unite under it.
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>>1084139

I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with Snideo Hames.
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>>1084121
>[Lay it on thick]

>>1084145
Well fine.
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>>1084161
Did he even notice the Earthquake?
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>>1084137
>>1084103
So... Is this what you guys called Psychological torture? Because Hector and Pierre seem on the edge of breaking!
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>>1084161
Why is he recording a guy named James? Naomi getting captured really fucked him up
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>>1084097
I've always wondered if there was a Cyldesdale Frame. CRUSH AND SMASH!
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>>1084174
No it was space, /d/ That did that, i swear this place itself makes people raise their standards of disgust
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>>1084103
People on 4chan always say that but I have never seen any test records.
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Normally, you'd be embarrassed with this sort of florid speech, part of the reason why you're taken seriously despite your age is because you're cool and professional, but this is for her. You have a gift for understanding people, and you realize that you abrogating your own cool demeanor to acknowledge her like this means much, much more than you initially suspected, “My darling peach blossom, I never thanked you for saving my life.” Well, technically you're fairly sure you could have beaten Lieutenant Rabban, but you could also have been shot and there's no harm fudging the scales in her favor.

“Really, we can hear all of this. Is this normal for Martians?” Hector looks askance at Pierre.

Pierre shrugs, “She's always following him around, but I don't think it's normal for them or for the human race in general.”

“Even this miserable rain is beautiful when it's shared with you.” You tell her, watching the road mostly through peripheral vision, “Let other pirates of legend have their treasure hoards, my princess Shukriya gleams more brightly than any.”

She clasps her hands over her mouth again, “Mohammed...Moe...m-my Mohammed...” Moisture glitters at the corners of her eyes, “I love you. I love you I love you I love you I love you! I always have!” She wails, tears trickling down her cheeks, “E-E-Ever since u-uncle Ahmad hired you! Y-you're the only...ththe o-only...!” She's so emotional she's stuttering, and not a cute little stutter like in your teacher's ancient Terran animated stories, full on having-trouble-speaking stuttering.

>[Tell her you love her right now]
>[No it's too embarrassing!]
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>>1084121
Also... Moe's girl just outed us for real, how much should we reveal to hector? I still think that we could at least get some info on our common enemy and their next plan or something
>>1084104
Did you ever heard that expression "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Giving non classified info to your enemy's enemies isn't betraying your country, is just making your enemy's life even worse.

>>1084112
About cooperating... What does that means to you? I'm against doing anything for free to them, but selling some services seems reasonable if our mutual interests meet on that moment... What isn't going to happen anytime soon, as we are...UGH... allied with fairchild...

About the belt... I'm a little lost now, wasn't people here talking about the belt being the thing were jovian and martian powers met? I assumed that it acted like some sort of frontier somehow... I think I should just have checked a map.
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>>1084214
>>[Tell her you love her right now]
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>>1084214
>[Tell her you love her right now]

Roarke would kill us if we did anything else.
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>>1084214
>[Tell her you love her right now]
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>>1084214
>[Tell her you love her right now]
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>>1084184

There is actually the Budweiser Construction Mech, it's interesting for being one of the few examples of a non-bipedal Jovian mech, essentially based off the skeletal structure of a bear (although it doesn't look like one unlike some of the more fanciful Martian mechabeasts). Tremendously heavy, quite slow, it's not meant for military use but sees quite a lot of application in colony construction.
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>>1084214
>[Tell her you love her right now]

LAY ON THE HAM!
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>>1084214
>>[Tell her you love her right now]
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>>1084217
>Also... Moe's girl just outed us for real, how much should we reveal to hector? I still think that we could at least get some info on our common enemy and their next plan or something
Not really, he was informed of who the Kestrels are and we made it pretty damn clear.
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>>1084214
>>[Tell her you love her right now]
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>>1084214
>>[Tell her you love her right now]
You may be muslims, but you are going to be eating so much HAM tonight.
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>>1084217
He literally told us earlier he knew we worked for Roarke.
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>>1084214
>tell her you love her you fool!
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>>1084217
>"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Giving non classified info to your enemy's enemies isn't betraying your country, is just making your enemy's life even worse.

Problem, the hare does not antagonize the bear that is within's arms reach.
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>>1084236
Maybe I'm crazy but... Why don't we just tell him why we are here? What can he do? Spill the beans for the jovians?
>>1084250
A hare within the range of a bear is already dead and have lothing to lose, "Even a rat when cornered will fight back" says another saying.
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>>1084227
Oh Wong you MAGNIFICENT BASTARD. Martian Mechabeasts are a canon thing? I'm grinning so hard right now. Can imagine a giant Mecha Clydesdale galloping full tilt while the Knuckle Kaiser rides it.
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“Can this wait?” Protests Pierre, “By Jove, it's bad enough when it's Roarke and Samantha, at least they're discreet!”

Allah should smite Pierre for lying, the Admiral and Pierre's sister are not discreet in the slightest.

“This reminds me of the time I tried to serenade Liza back on Avalon. I had to dodge attacks from the Berenger and some very harsh criticism from the Duchess regarding my proficiency with the lute...” Hector starts, but you can tell he's trying to distract you. It won't work. You are like a guided missile homing in on your mark, unstoppable as the pull of gravity.

You take Shukriya's hand in yours, the other still on the wheel.

The Admiral would kill you if you didn't tell her now, but you don't even think about that. This isn't about being the disciple of the legendary Roarke Starwind and heir to Jeremy Ozark. This isn't about Oda's teachings or the platonic ideal of waifus. This is about Shukriya, “Thank you.” You tell her softly, “Thank you for pushing when I was afraid to. I love you, Shukriya. I...” You fish for some other metaphor and come up short, your voice going a little hoarse, “Damn it all I love you so much.”

“MOHAMMED!” She cries out, and jumps on you, hugging you tight and sobbing with joy.

Pierre, thankfully, has the foresight and height to lunge over the back of the seat and grab the wheel, steering the groundcar into the grass along the side of the road as you put on the brake.

“Well, this is the edge of the city so I'll just...get going then. Um. Congratulations! Well done! Have fun! I'd say 'don't do anything I wouldn't do', but I'm not the person to look up to.” Hector lets himself out, retrieves his groceries, and departs.

"Be absolutely goddamn thankful you aren't UJCIDF cadets or I would roar a bloody strip out of you damned greenhorns and your damned romance." Pierre growls.

You don't care at ALL!

[Continued]
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>>1084255
>A hare within the range of a bear is already dead and have nothing to lose.

Only applicable when the bear views the hare as its current dinner. We are at the stage where the bear still hasn't decided yet.
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>>1084272
Also a hare is going to run regardless unless its either physically caught or its too tired to keep going.
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MECHABEASTS. WHO CARES. MECHA BEASTS. THE FIVE LIONS OF HAKIM FORM VOLTRON WOOO HOO
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>>1084277
But we can't run, not without abandoning those who rely on our protection. BR's not so subtle attempts to ally us to Avalon shifts us from neutral-possibly allied faction to hostile-please-eliminate status in the eyes of the Jovian Senate.
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>>1084280
ABSOLUTELY HARAM! VOLTRON IS THE INFIDEL'S ATTEMPT TO ATTACK ISLAM!
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>>1084288

Devil's advocate, and I'm saying this PURELY to cause trouble with zero actual thought put into it...but one might say that seeming OPEN to allying with Avalon somewhat would also force the Jovians to use a light touch or risk having you turn the Belt into a permanent Avalonian base. Can't shoot up Auditorium if the Duke's flagship and more like it are sitting on it.
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>>1084271
>Hector lets himself out, retrieves his groceries, and departs.

Wait, why is Hector getting groceries in Innsmouth?
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>>1084292
Supply/Intel Run. Duh.
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We really need to go full medieval switzerland and just train everyone to make a square of pike, but with mechs, in space
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>>1084288
I was just talking about hares. They are quite tasty. Also a terrible comparison for us. A bear is never going to get even slightly injured by a hare, they kill like lions and tigers 90% of the time they have been forced to fight. We'd be more like a wolf or a big dog or an unarmed human or something. Would still lose in a fight but could at least cause an injury.
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>>1084290
Works if the Belt can expect regular reinforcements from Avalon and they don't have a genocidal, egotistical, conniving, butch general advocating a Mekong and Wels strike force to annihilate the Auditorium.
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>>1084297
More like a Wolverine really. Incredibly dangerous to most things and still pretty dangerous to everything else.
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>>1084272
>>1084277
My bad, I thought that the metaphor was about Hector being cornered by UJCIDF, not about the belt situation.

About that, you guys should stop assuming that I want an open alliance, I was suggesting to keep things loose and not comitting to any serious or more permanet alliance with hector for now... And about the belt, how can we be "neutral" when we have jovians and martians going in and out of our turf EVERYDAY but the avalonians are banned? We should at least keep the fear of it being a possibility on the air, or they will just assume that we are a vassal state and will push their agenda again and again on us as soon that the Duke goes away, and you will still be saying "But we can't oppose Jupiter yet! because they can shoot us!"
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>>1084306
Maybe after we sort out some new mook mechs. Right now we are pretty shit apart from a handful of super strong guys.
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>>1084217
Cooperation i as i see it is, Talk of an alliance, Actually working together while our troops are on the ground*|So long as the lady lives and Unless the fucking galaxy is about to explode i will oppose this, Outright Giving them information on jovian defences,

Also we aren't allied with fairchild? it has been stated several times that WHEN the concert turns out to be a trap, we are going to snap her neck right there, Honestly i think we should handcuff her to roarke the second she arrives on the station.

No i am not against ransoming Prisoners back to Avalon in exchange for things like, Large quantities of gold, Steel, silver and Jewels, Or even trading for regular steel and other materials, But anything organic is off the table for natural reasons, and we will have to scour any materials from there with UV radiation to ensure there is no fungal fuckery going on.
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>>1084308
>And about the belt, how can we be "neutral" when we have jovians and martians going in and out of our turf EVERYDAY but the avalonians are banned?
Well we don't have the clout for proper neutrality yet, of course.
But we're already inviting them in for the talks on equal grounds.

Plus, we are having Jovian and Martian /civilians/ shipping goods and shit. Not combat ships.
Avalonians are an armed strikeforce.
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>>1084308
Soon the Martians and Jovians will be kicked out and banned too, As has always been the plan
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“Out! Backseat! Damn it, shoo! I'll drive!” Pierre is gruff as a wounded sandworm, but you're grateful to him. Somehow you and Shukriya end up in the backseat.

You're not sure what flower or berries or whatever her perfume is supposed to smell like, but it takes your breath away.

“If we were in a proper military unit you would be on Shetland Bay Duty for an entire DECADE for this kind of fraternization!” Yells the man whose sister went on a date with a space pirate while she was still enlisted. You'll believe that fraternization is penalized in the UJCIDF when the Admiral acquires a taste for hip-hop.

You don't actually think that thought just then, though, Shukriya's lips are a soporific sweeter and more mind-numbing than any alcohol, and Pierre's anger is a sort of bee-like buzzing in the far distance beyond the sound of kissing.

“I'm going to find someone to report this to. I swear it. If I have to go dig up the Admiral's bloody fossil of a teacher off his bloody mountain and carry him to Qu'lir ON MY BACK TIGER AND ALL TO GIVE YOU WHAT FOR...” Pierre bellows. You'd be convinced he enjoys being angry if you were thinking about anything but loving and being loved by Shukriya.

Her hair is so smooth and her skin is so soft, you want to just breathe her in, savor her. It's something beyond just sexual appeal and the chemical drive to reproduce. Your heart is stirred in the way a poet's is stirred when all the words fit right, or an artist's when they capture a perfect sunrise on canvas.

[Continued]
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>>1084313
We're literally the strongest pirate band the Belt has ever seen and capable of doing a ton of damage even with our relatively small fleet.

Wolverines are small compared to most other predators but they're fierce as fuck.
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>>1084295
Pike combat would probably be super shit in space because of 3d fighting. Man I can't wait till we use the fact we can 3d fight with out ships in a battle
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>>1084327
We are still shit as a whole compared to the actual military powers. A dedicated attack from any of them would wipe us off the map.
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>>1084323
Hey Wong, who has the authority to actually perform weddings on Auditorium?
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>>1084327
>>1084313
Yeah we have a pretty nice bunch of SOUL-tier mecha. And plenty of our harpies have already been upgraded too.

Real war? Yeah we lose.
Very determined and big strikeforce? We can hurt them real bad with our aces, even if they may eventually drown us.
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>>1084308
Jovians and Martians are lead by someone who killed 2/3 of all humans. And Avalon isn't anywhere near us and won't attack us directly.
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>>1084335
And we'd still bloody the enemy before we go.
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>>1084337
Kiri is doing it
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>>1084344
Only roarke and co. The rest of our guys are nothing special.
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>>1084297
>>1084327
> Whether it's the Trojan War, the Battle of Thermoplyae, or the Last Stand at the Alamo, many of the famous battles in history were sieges in which small forces took on much larger armies.
> Unfortunately, sieges don't make good stories because the smaller force won; they make this history books because the little guys fought well, before they died.

Point still stands, any major attempt, which includes kidnapping the head mech researcher of the UJCIDF and paramour of Jove's new ace will give Fairchild fuel to convince the Jove Senate to move against us.
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>>1084337
Oda
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>>1084350
1)Roarke and Co is like three whole SOUL squads at once
2)we still have not-so-shit harpies+ and ships
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Did we ever get around to forging those rings?
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>>1084358
No and we haven't even asked Athena to be the ring bearer
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>>1084350
>Stone Soldiers: Special Forces Bluegills
>Harlock's Crew: Rocs

Red Siren's Crew is kinda shit though. Hopefully, Kathrine can fix that.
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>>1084359
Well, at least the girls handled getting the cakes.

Wait, who's handling the rest of the catering?
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>>1084369
Kathrine probably, it would be a safe bet to assume everything that needs to be done for the Wedding will be done by her
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>>1084357
Ever heard of term, 'Quantity has a quality of it's own'?

Mars and Jove have us both beaten in terms of quantity and quality of mechs. No need to poke the bear in the nose before we're good and ready.
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>>1084372
Like Fa's going to let anyone else manage her wedding.
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>>1084357
Didnt we work out we have enough guys to match the numbers of mechs that 2 Wels can carry? And thats just numbers never mind quality.
So the 2 wels and Mekong with Praetorians plus an unknown but large amount of escorts would wreck our face.
>>1084363
>3 Rocs
>24 Pumpkinseed 1's
Not exactly awe inspiring.
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>>1084374
I see someone else has read classic Jovian military textbooks
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>>1084334
What is the space equivlent of pike squares, with mechs?
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>>1084372
Yes, but where are we getting the food from?

And poor Kathrine. I hope she gets a reward soon
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>>1084384
Gun sphere?
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>>1084380
>So the 2 wels and Mekong with Praetorians plus an unknown but large amount of escorts would wreck our face.
I'm not saying they wouldn't, but that would still cost them.
Cost which they need more applied against Avalon.
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>>1084384
3d Testudo
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>>1084314
>Outright Giving them information on jovian defences,
Shouldn't we drag this out as far as we can? I mean, having a real Avalonian threat in sol has brought us nothing but gold... And if the Avalonians have war victories and take jovian resources... What is prohibiting us from taking it from them? Again?

>Also we aren't allied with fairchild? it has been stated several times that WHEN the concert turns out to be a trap, we are going to snap her neck right there, Honestly i think we should handcuff her to roarke the second she arrives on the station.
Problem is: Almost every idea of robbing something, or doing any course of action that would bring any attention of the UJCIDF is met with "We can't do X because them fairchild will attack us!", and them people think that when we kill Fairchild things will magically change and everything will be well... but it will be not, Mars is PLANET, AN ENTIRE PLANET, and Jupiter has a bizzare number of colonies, there is just no way that we are going to have the upper hand on their war forces in GENERATIONS... Sooner or later we will have to make a stand, and we should take advantage of this distraction as we still have it, instead of being always afraid of a possible revenge....

I'm not saying to bomb the senate or something, but I'm begining to go Thunder with this and wanting to show who is boss on the belt intead of living in fear under Fairchild's shadow.

>>1084316
I'm not seeing they taking us serious when we just seem to roll along to their propaganda and limit ourselfs to minor raids for fear of angering them.

>>1084317
Will they? Or are they just going to press us even more when Avalon stop worring them?

Guys, destroying the Mekong and the Wells isn't going to make we win per se... they have a absurd number of vessels that would ournumber us after a wave or two... How are we going to deal with that?
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“And in front of the damned Avalonians, of all things! The ENEMY! Or as close to it as you get!” That last sentence wouldn't have existed before Dame Morgan Gray started writing him multi-page love letters on actual scented paper and you know this for a fact, as much as Pierre pretends to be tremendously humiliated by it and loudly denounces her as a filthy Green Men worshipper...which is a safe thing to do because she was still on 16-Psyche when you left for this mission, “Humiliated in front of THE ENEMY! I never expected this from you, Mohammed, I thought you had a stiff upper lip!”

Shukriya is doing her best to unstiffen your upper lip, and your lower lip, and your tongue. It's as if a dam holding back all the kisses she's ever wanted to give you has abruptly sprung a leak and now pressure is forcing them out. Tears trickle from her cheeks, and you realize that maybe she never thought you'd return her feelings. You're lucky she tried so hard, or you might never have realized that you've shared them for so long. “Moemoehammmmeeeeedddd!” She wails, clinging to you.

You barely feel the bump of the groundcar stopping along a little-used path through the woods. There were campsites out here back when tourism hadn't been stifled by imminent threat of Paladin, now you and your four teammates have occupied this zone. Five mecha, the immediately recognizable ones with replaced and restyled armor plating to prevent immediate camouflage, have been concealed here. Four regular aces and one truly dangerous one to be unleashed only in an emergency have made their barracks here among wood and leaves. Pierre throws the keys at you, “I'd give my left foot for a sprayer of water to use on you, you're worse than cats!” It wouldn't work.

Of course, you're not thinking about any of this. You're thinking about Shukriya. She catches your hands, sitting up, “My lips are numb.” She mumbles with a giddy smile, “Moe...let's...you know. Your tent. Not here.”

You nod, and help her up. She smiles shyly, “I thought of something to make this miserable rain a little better.” She opens up an umbrella, “I bought this in town, this way we can share the rain together.” She puts her dainty, warm hand in yours. You couldn't be happier.

You have no idea of the evil that you have just unleashed, either.
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>>1084392
>You have no idea of the evil that you have just unleashed, either.
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>>1084392
Wong was Brannigan Jovian or Lunarian?
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>>1084351

She's nowhere close to being the head mech researcher of the UJCIDF, although her star is certainly on the rise.

I can tell you straight-up that it is nowhere near as cut-and-dried certain that the Jovian senate would authorize pulling in extrasolar resources in the middle of a war over this.

In part because there is the very real fear that Roarke Starwind will straight-up punch a battleship to death.
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>>1084391
Why not use the auction to set up a sort of neutral embassy? We have a high class martian figure, a Paladi, and plenty of noble Jovians. If used in such a way that keeps Lori out of the war at large and opens up trade with Mars, we would be forcing Jupiter to avoid outright attacking the embassy. Could use it as a means to posibly get Caesar's girlfriend back as sort of a true neutral, with her ties to Jove, Mars, Avalon, and the Belt.
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>>1084386
I'm thinking 3d testudo is a pretty rad ideabut then i remembered why the pike square stopped being effective. guns.
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>>1084399
They aren't ever gonna give Naomi back

>>1084401
I mean put guns in the gaps instead of spears, but then you have floating boxes that ships can just shoot no problem
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>>1084401
Just got to use fancier shields.
Which reminds me, someone was asking how we do a mech fight in a stadium without missed shots murdering the crowd and I thought what if they set up a ship shield in a dome around the inside of the arena?
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>>1084396
what?
we have punched a battleship to death, with the weebs help of course
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>>1084396
>In part because there is the very real fear that Roarke Starwind will straight-up punch a battleship to death.
With how much PUNCHSPAM we have, if we get past the shield, a ship is definitely getting punched to death in a very short timeframe.
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>>1084396
It would probably get even lesser if we left a note or message that this was only for the duration of the wedding and we would arrange transport back for her immediately when it was done.

And we have the contacts with which to send this message backed up by the fact that we generally keep our word.
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Game resumes Wednesday.

>>1084407

Exactly
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>>1084399
I'm going to side with Thunder on this, the Duke won't give up on her, the best we could hope for is he accepting a duel for her to spare his crew from a army battle to the death...

An embassy could work, but first we should stop being afraid and show them that we rule the belt and will negotiate with the avalonians if we prefer to... Or they will always assume that they can bully us with their military might and we will be forever in a siege state.

You know... Sorry for getting angry over this... I'm just tired of this profound fear of the UJCIDF when we can punch battleships to death.
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Another problem with authorizing a military strike that hasn't been mentioned is that it would be extremely bad PR for the UJCIDF to attack a colony with a lot of civilians with no criminal record even if they are Red Siren fans, plus whatever hostages she has, that's as much a worry as the damage the pirates could cause or the risk of the Iron Kestrels siding with Avalon.
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Wong, this was a great thread. I loved every minute of reading this, thanks for writing it!

As a question, how good is microwave power transmission technology in your universe? Just wondering.
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>>1084413
And this ladies and gentlemen why people have not gone after Roarke, he 'generally keeps his word' which is surprising for a pirate. Better to have a lovable manwhore punch maniac pirate who moistens all female loins in charge of the belt than some other lunatic with less savory tendencies like galballdie or something.

I mean at the rate the Kestrels are going they're kinda like a budding faction already. The Iron Belt Kingdom/Republic/Federation/Aviary?
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>>1084445
I loved that shit when the Gundam X got shot up and got some kind of booster rocket laser shield, that was crash
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>>1084391
See that is Just it.
>robbing something It is assumed that if it is in the belt, and not ours then it is fair game.

>there is just no way that we are going to have the upper hand on their war forces in GENERATIONS
The belt has far more resources than any of the planets, all we need is time and honestly a Foundry/Factory colony would be ideal

>we kill Fairchild things will magically change and everything will be well
Everything won't be well but we will have gotten rid of a major thorn in our sides regardless

>destroying the Mekong and the Wells isn't going to make we win
It will give them pause, and make our claims of being a sovereign nation that much more Valid. Which honestly Mars luna and even Avalon would probably back our claim, since it would be to their political advantage to do so

>instead of being always afraid of a possible
revenge
We JUST robbed a museum ship and Kidnapped her niece dude. what the hell are you worried about?
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>>1084447
That's been the plan all along.

Also Falconia
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Hey Wong how old are the Puru's right now?
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>>1084451
The shield is a nice to have All attack in SRW as well, although it competes for having a functional satellite laser cannon so I only ever use it in the early game xD

I like a lot of the designs from Gundam X.
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so today I tried statting a mech that was only a torso and arm just to see what I could do with it.
the fact the sensors are on the torso means a -3 awareness but...
Anyway I made it all mega heavy including the armor which is gamma armor
frame total of 78 CP and 28 tons, after all its only 2 armored servos.

Gave it a big throw-able returning AP buzz saw chakram for the arm, a wide angle variable anti-missle beam gun and a decent shield.
comes out to about 227 CP with a MA of 10...

Maybe I should just remove the arm and use lots of 2 CP weapon Mounts...
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>>1084391
I forgot but >Will they? Or are they just going to press us even more when Avalon stop warring them?
Once the belt is either handed to us or taken by force, anything without our flag on it is either gonna be captured so it can be retrofitted/scrapped or destroyed outright.
Even Civilian ships, Especially Civilian ships since their crews can be handsomely ransomed.
Will they press us while they are in a war that won't end any time soon? They would be retarded to do so, after all an attack on auditorium would scatter our band across the belt, since they don't actually have enough forces in system to destroy us outright, and would take heavy losses doing so. leaving much of the system rather undefended from, say Pissed off recently homeless pirates.
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>>1084419
goddamnit, of course you don't run on my day off.
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>>1084402
Honestly, it's one of the better options considering the situation and worth a shot. If the data is something to go by, Eustace is more neutral than most options and information that there are indeed clones will help. Going for a duel when two of your enemies are waiting nearby is suicide considering his state, and it would also take away one of the pillars preventing Fairchild from ending us.
>>1084423
You are confusing caution with fear BR. Yes we can punch a ship down single handedly, but that means nothing when the other 10-15 are killing your dudes. Roarke is a singular existance covering a wide area that multiple groups want. Each side has HUNDREDS of ships while we have 10. Even then, the next gen of pilots are growing fast. Given time, Soul C could destroy Roarke on their own, and if deprived of support, even Roarke can be worn down.
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>>1084454
>>1084472
>>1084489
I know, I'm mostly just angry because I feel that Roarke and the Belt is getting much tied down by what other people think instead of flipping the bird to everyone and doing their own thing.

I don't have care much about allying with avalon or something, I just want that we could let anyone we want in or out without having to worry constantly about if we are going to be bombed by talking with X or Y.
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>>1084498
...And my english is shutdown again, it already began to do that a few hours ago, but its getting worse... Time to sleep.
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>>1084501
What is the Brazilian version of Engrish?
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>>1084498
Diplomacy in general is a game that even the greatest minds fail at. As is, we can't buddy buddy with them because two of their enemies are next to us and are looking for excuses. We can use opportunities and hearing what they say, but fighting beside them is a bad idea alongside being cozy and letting high ranking officials in freely without setting something up.

Dealing with Fairchild won't stop it, but she is the major pusher for that and has the most senate pull. It would also damage their war footing because she is a major pusher there. But most importantly, we need to damage their desire for war and make them come at us be even harder for them.

Besides, all things considered we are getting away with a lot. Psyche and the Museum raid are pretty high profile in terms of just money, fame, and information. Fairchild is likely screaming bloody murder at what we did to her home while flogging everything in a 10 mile radius, so do not assume we can't do anything.
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Fun fact, after playing around with the ATM, I found that the costs for beam and projectile guns are more or less balanced.if you're making a simple weapon. A beam and projectile gun with the same stats (5k, +1 WA, BV3) both cost 15 CP. However, because of ammo, the projectile gun is slightly more expensive, at 16.5 for a ten shot clip.

So if you want a functional gun with no bells and whistles, the two are more or less balanced in regards to cost. It's when you start adding special properties is when shit starts going off rails, because the projectile ones are cheap compared to Beams.
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>>1084517
Yeah, I added some stuff to a 6K beam gun and wound up with a base cost of 48.6...
mind I made it able to shoot mechs and missiles and gave it a 7 Hex AOE so it can fry swarms of missiles. 72.6 CP if you add in space efficiency.
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>>1084523
an example I tried out when doing this was the Disruptor property. Adding Disruptor to a beam gun doubles the cost outright, where as for projectiles just the ammo costs four times more. So for the example weapon I made, the beam gun would now be 30 CP, and the projectile would be 21.

And lets face it, if the battles in the quest are any indication, it's highly unlikely anything will need all ten of those shots.
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>>1084504
Ingrês.
Mostly commonly used by cariocas who believe that they are much more smart than they really are, and random people that have no Idea of what they are doing but trying to communicate anyway.

Its like engrish, but with a HUE feeling to it.

>>1084515
Its okay,I understand... But maybe what Wong suggested could work.. they may be more cautious when pressing us if he keep a possibility of helping avalon in the air.

Bu thats just a theory
A Theory implyied by the QM himself
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>>1084517
What if you made a 11K beam weapon that came with an ammo system, because shit's expensive yo.
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>>1084559
Beams don't get special ammo, and their clips cost 1CP regardless of the gun's cost if you go that way.
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>>1084540
I say we stay as neutral as we can. We can make a lot of money and influence by providing small services to each side.
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About this, I've been thinking...
Aside from using them as turrets(which could work depending on the number of pilots we have and maybe work even better if we have at least a few iskander rifles), they could use their ground movement systems to do hit and run just after the flood, blitzing anyone who tries to get up after the first wave of water....
Or we could give them a handheld heavy missile to each hand and fire at Ford's troops... In theory any weapon that could be used by jovian mecha can be used for the Knights too.
We could also use them close down any narrow passage that needs to be block to not get Ford's troops into the dam or something, depending on the situation...

Also... About our Pumpkinseeds I and II and the Bluegills... should we oufit them with their normal longa distance weapons or just give them a handheld heavy missile each?

>Flood leave Ford's infantry and most of ground mecha out of combat.
>When the first mecha start to get on their feet again and the Chevaliers and the Paladin take the sky...
>... An army of Bluegills and Pumpkinseeds get out of the dam...
>...BLACKING OUT THE SKY WITH A RAIN OF HEAVY MISSILES.

Oda would be proud.

Can Knights and stolen Bluegills even survive this? I don't think so.
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>>1084661
Regular weapons would probably be better so we still have something to do after we blow our missile load.
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>>1084457
No.
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>>1084392
>Four regular aces and one truly dangerous one to be unleashed only in an emergency have made their barracks here among wood and leaves
Wait, who are the aces? Pierre, Moe, Shukriya, Caesar, ??
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>>1084723
>Wait, who are the aces? Pierre, Moe, Shukriya, Caesar, ??

Well, none of these 4 fit that last description, so that is most likely the final member of this away team.

>truly dangerous
>only to be unleashed in an emergency
My first instinct is Clemmy, but she is not that viscious honestly, and if she were here she would probably more useful in infilltrating the Cicero. Besides, she would never stray that far away from Roarke, especially not now.

Fatima is another contender, and the Tarrasque fits that description really, really well. On the other hand, that thing is far to big and bulky to move around stealthily, 80 ton warmachines do not sneak. And she also has planning to do.

So who is left? it is most likely a long-range mecha, to support the three melee specialists. So, who do we know whose mere presence would disturb any infiltration or recon mission, whose personality would mess up any attempt to make contact, but who would be very useful in a fight at long range?
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>>1084855
Miles? She's not that good though. Also had a criminal record
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>>1084862
No.
She does not have criminal record.
Crimnal Record have HER
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So... How hard would this be to kill, I gave it the heaviest gamma armor, a heavy gamma shield and made it techno organic for regen:

Polyphemus (“humanoid” mech)
Mega heavy Torso: C/S/K: 22, 11 tons
Armor:
Mega Heavy Gamma Armor (1): (22 CP, 11 SP, DC 8, 5.5 tons)
Main Sensors (Torso, -3 Awareness): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Frame Total: 48 CP, 17.5 tons
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (.1 cp), Torso Weapon Mount (2 CP, 2 spaces ), Torso Shield Mount (2 CP, 2 spaces), Micro-manipulators (1 CP, 1 space)
Armament:
Torso Mounted Warpick: 8k, WA+2, AP, 16 Spaces, 16 CP, 8 tons
Torso Beam Wave: 6k, Range 1000m, WA+1, Variable (Anti-missile), 1 space, 35.8 CP (11.5 CP of space efficiency, 1 ton (fragile)
Large Standard Gamma Torso shield: DA 0, DC 8, 10 SP, 30 CP, 5 tons
Thrusters & Speed: 500m per turn in flight, 12 thrusters all in torso, 12 CP
149.8 CP, 31.5 tons
Cost Multipliers:
Techno Organic: (1K regen at start of new round, +1MV, -1 penalty to all rolls for each system/servo destroyed, x0.5)
Beam Refract Cloaking: (-1 from incoming beam damage, 0.1x)
239.68 CP
24 CP of weight efficiency
263.68, 19.5 tons, -1 MV(+1 from techno organic) = 0 MV
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>>1085220
>+1MV, -1 penalty to all rolls for each system/servo destroyed
I cant tell if thats good or bad. I guess its pretty sweet as long as you dont get into a protracted fight.
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>>1085257
thing is this mech only has 1 servo; the torso
if that gets destroyed you're dead anyway, I think destroying its externally mounted gear (warpick and shield) counts for the penalty too but that's still only -2, I need to read up on targeting rules to be sure though.
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>>1085127

Printed out in size 6 font her rap sheet would be many times her height.
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>>1085706
That's only like 2 or 3 pages Wong
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>>1084661
Would likely be better to use standard weapons and simply fortify their spots. Remember, the idea is to lure them into the trap and use the water to wipe them out or soften them up. Running out of ammo would be bad.
Really, using the Knights for carrying and construction might be a better option. They can carry more than pumpkinseeds and bluegills and it means we don't need construction crews for fortification or setting things up. Can cannibalize some as traps, others as emplacements. Could load those gunlances with explosive rounds and use them like mortars.
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>>1085706
As a side note, why does Avalon not make anything smaller than a knight? Like, I get that they prefer a quality over quantity approach, but from what I understand some of their local allies can't produce the Mecha like on Qu'lir seem to have trouble making more locally, and certainly can't make the superheavy beam batteries that proper Avalonian warships require. Is there some reason they don't have some crappy mecha for the local peasant levees?
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>>1085985
Do they need to though? Ford's strategy makes sense in a way. Rather than set up factories, just bring unmanned machines to them and load them out. Besides that, Qu'Lir does not seem as production/tech heavy as the home worlds. More a bread basket than a workshop.
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>>1086134
>Rather than set up factories, just bring unmanned machines to them and load them out.
Well, it works until the enemy cuts off your supply lines, which is incredibly easy to do in this setting due to how gates work. Then you run out of widgets and your entire force breaks down. Or at the very least you can't ship back whatever resources you are trying to send home.
>Besides that, Qu'Lir does not seem as production/tech heavy as the home worlds.
That would be why you come up with a design the local peasants can make and go out an die in.
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>>1086184
Now therein lies the crux of the issue. Gates. Sure, they could destroy them, but Gates work both ways and destroying themhurts the navy as well. Not only that, but with what Duke said, he used a gate as a one way means to get here. Even if they take out the one on cat land, that just means they can't retreat. They can still send supplies and reinforcements.
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>>1086205
Can't ship any war material back home though, so any industrial capacity is best used on the front, rather than as a resource extraction operation.
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>>1086213
But thats the thing; Qu'Lir HAS no materials or war capacities. It's a bread basket. A good means to push the front in terms of location, but thats it. Hell, the original idea was just to teach the cats to fight for themselves. The moment the front lines are moved forward, there is really no need for it aside from food in the long term, which can easily be done through slower methods than the Gates.
Also, sending ships back with materials in a contested area is a bad idea especially with how the space battle was going. You never want your production lines on the front either because that is what most armies will target. Besides, Jupiter made the Gate here for them. Why the hell would they destroy their own gate?
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>>1086205
We should look into making certain hates only work with certain ships. Maybe have it rely on having a certain piece of tech on our ship
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>>1086248
>Besides, Jupiter made the Gate here for them.
This is incorrect. It was an old CUSS gate.
>You never want your production lines on the front either because that is what most armies will target.
There's a sweet spot between "far enough so the enemy can't easily target it" and
"so far away that its logistical hell." If you can't find that sweetspot anywhere in a solar system you probably have a problem.
>But thats the thing; Qu'Lir HAS no materials or war capacities
I wasn't referring to just Qu'lir right now though. MARS doesn't appear to have any ships as large as the Avalonian's smallest warship class. I'm not sure that ANY of their allies can make warships and Knights in practical numbers.
>>1086259
Password protect it? Sure, why not. Assuming we can make some sort of Micro Macro gate or something.
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>>1086259
There is pro and cons on this, because we wouldn't be able to sell the use of the Gate or even let allies through without risks.

But isn't a bad idea overall.
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>>1086259
Too much trouble for something that can bite your own hand. First off, you would need to shut down the gates to do the modifications, cutting off a means to transport from there in terms of withdrawal. Second, you would then have to install the device into everything that goes through the gate. Third, you have to hope real hard that the people making the tech don't give it to the enemy like they did with the reentry pod, or sabotage it so it rejects said devices. Not to mention just capturing ships or reverse engineering them.
Not worth it on multiple fronts, especially in the middle of a war.
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>>1085706
We're talking a list of individual crimes, right?

Actually, that brings up the question of how crime has changed in the 2Xth Century. Is prostitution a crime on Jupiter? How big a crime is Grand Theft Mecha? Does leaving the shattered remnants of the Mechs you've annihilated in Jovian territory count as littering? What's it called when you illegally pass through a gate?
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>>1085985
Honestly, I think the issue is a lack of technical prowess. The Knight is a HILARIOUSLY inefficient Mecha because it's based off of older mech designs from the War and Avalon hasn't really done much innovation on that front. Paladins are exceptions and what makes them so terrifying is the biological nature of their machines.

In order to make smaller Mechs, they'd have to figure out how to make their systems more efficient first.
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>>1086362
I thought the Knight is terrible because Wong didn't realize how bad treads & wheel combos are until he actually tried to stat them.
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>>1086316
It wouldn't work well for the SSL or even to Avalon.
But could be used by the Kestrel, if we limit or keys to warships and adquire terns on the other side to do the small jobs.
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>>1086248
If there's one thing I learned from reading the Halo books, Bread Basket planets are worth FAR more than a planet with material resources. You can mine asteroids and barren rocks and even gas giants. You can't grow food on any of those without a some serious agriculrural infrastructure. Even with terraforming, the number of planets that can support human life is incredibly tiny, so Qu'lir being able to produce food is incredibly valuable. Qu'lir is a backwater because of its positioning, not because of its lack of resources.
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>>1086372
That's the out-of-Universe explanation. I was providing an in-universe one because you were asking in that context.
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>>1086414
>That's the out-of-Universe explanation. I was providing an in-universe one because you were asking in that context.
I assume that the in universe reason is that mass production variables don't scale directly to CP cost, so a Knight is still as easy to produce as a Pumpkinseed II.
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Actually, I have a question: Has the Technology to create new Gates been lost or is the process very expensive or something?

And do Earth and Venus have Gates or are the Martian and Jovian ones the only ones in the Sol System?
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>>1086400
Except breadbaskets lose their use when your homeworld is home to someone who can make forests grow instantly. While tech poor, resources and food is likely in abundance on the home front and it has a gate so distance is not much of an issue for them to deliver it. The fact they pick only elites also means that their food consumption is low compared to the Jovians. They can likely make due with less in general due to their policies so a bread basket is not as useful as it seems.
>>1086376
That would require us making a gate. A gate that the Jovians can see and costs a lot of money.
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>>1086372
Knights are basically Morgan Is with a futuristic roller skate... But without the heavy weaponry and equiped with the mated lance/shield combo.

On the other side... They move 300m per action, and can have a free 150m move per turn, outspeeding any jovian mecha including SOUL machines... What they really need then is little of space efficiency and a better weapon, as it is clear on the TEMPLAR design.

If they try their hand at creating a new mech in the same manner they did before it would probably be a 140CP Not!Pumpkinseed with treads/wheels... What would end the wieght problem but would depend on how its weapons turn out.
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>>1086434
There is an earth gate. I think its the only one. parts of a gate can also be fired through other gates and assembled on site.
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>>1086432
CP is an abstraction of materials and labor, so yes. It just seems to me that the Average Avalonian Mecha isn't very advanced.

Their ships are pretty fucking good though, if ostentatious.
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>>1086400
Actually, there being a very tiny amount of habitable planets isn't true. At least in real life. NASA went over the data collected by Kepler and estimated there could be up to 40 billion habitable planets in the Milky Way. I think the current estimate is that there's about 100 billion planets in the Milky Way, so 40% not too bad.

>>1086451
>Except breadbaskets lose their use when your homeworld is home to someone who can make forests grow instantly

Not really. She still has to get the resources to make those plants. All the carbon, oxygen, hydrogen and such. They don't just pop out of thin air.
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>>1086455
>weight efficiency*
Oops.
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>>1086465
Their ships are big, not good. There aren't enough options to really allow a ship to punch above its weight class in this system unless you want to give it extremely heavy armor. Unless you just break out the scaling rules from MTS, but those are silly and poorly thought through.
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>>1086451
Bread Baskets aren't particularly useful to Avalon because they already have at least 1 Garden World, yes. Not sure how many other systems have sided with them actually.

But for the Jovians, I can see it being pretty valuable. A good portion of the Jovian population lives in space stations and hydroponics can only do so much to produce food. A bread basket planet would be pretty damn useful for them.
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>>1086496
Yes, but thats more to the Jovian side of things, not the Avalonian. For Jupiter, them having a gate there would be good for expansion and keeping their fronts active which makes them putting up the gate understandable. Not on the Avalon front.
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>>1086474
>40 billion habitable planets in the Milky Way

I'm pretty sure it's 40 Billion planets in the Goldilocks zone. I've been following exoplanet news for a while and every time we find planets that are a possibility for habitation, there's always something off about them. I distinctly recall one that supposedly had an atmosphere incredibly close to Earth's but it was far more massive and thus, had a much stronger gravitational pull.

Mars is technically in the Goldilocks zone and is theoretically possible to terraform.

>>1086489
Point, but it's enough for them to hold their own against the SSL.
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>>1086434

Earth and Luna share one, Jupiter and Mars each have one of their own. Having three gates is a big deal, normally a system has one, at max. They're incredibly expensive to make and most are very old but well-maintained. As for the technology being lost? No, it isn't. It's just that building a new gate has serious political ramifications.
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>>1086533
Oh yeah, that's what I meant. I should have said potentially I guess. I figure it would be much easier to make a planet in the zone support life than a random asteroid.
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>>1086539
How do systems that don't have a gate do interstellar commerce? I think that you've mentioned that a lot of systems lost their gates, but I recall that some of them are apparently part of the war. How can that be if anyone who goes into them is trapped.
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>>1086531
If you recall, Avalon only had a token presence on Qu'lir before the Berenger arrived to kidnap Garrett. After the Paladin was shot down the situation kinda snowballed and Qu'lir became symbolically important.

Of course, that's just assuming the Lady didn't send her forces there to recover a Green Man warbeast.
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>>1086539
Interesting. Outside of the standard requirements to build a Gate, are there any special materials required to make them?

And I remember you said that FTL communications were handled by Ansibles but why doesn't Qu'lir have one again?
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>>1086297

A fun time for a note on the Martian and Jovian navies.

As dangerous as the mighty Wels, even mightier Mekong, and the huge Avalonian battleships are, you might have noticed by now that the backbone of the SSL navy lies in the Heavy Striker and Medium Weight cruisers. At least, that's how it is now. During the Great Sidereal War, mecha were a relatively untested technology and starships were considered the main fighting force of the day. They came in a profusion of shapes and sizes, some being dedicated gunships, others pure missile boats, others focusing almost entirely on serving as mecha or troop transports. After the War, a lot of these designs simply weren't very useful. The new requirement was to have a ship that could adequately patrol planets and colonies, fight back if threatened, and carry enough Bluegills or Scimitars to drive off a pirate band. Hence, the rise of standardized cruisers that were large enough to be a threat but not so large that they were a money sink.

Mars back then didn't have much of a navy at all, so it didn't have that reserve of big ships to use until it could phase them out. They have a lot of cruisers roughly equal to their Jovian counterparts, and a smaller number of big battleships like Rashad's flagship. I could absolutely change my mind about this later, but generally speaking those Martian battleships aren't quite as shield-heavy as the Rhinehawk and certainly not as fast, the Rhinehawk uses technology from Project Skywalker and engine designs cooked up by Doctor Clancy and Cornelius Cohen that maximize output. Instead, Martian battleships tend to have missiles and often an extra mechbay for their patented "black out the sky with jets" fighting style.
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>>1086590
How does the Rhinehawk compare to the Wels-class again? I remember the Wels is famous for the super heavy batteries, but what else was there?

And how far does the ban on depicting humanoid forms go in Hakimite Islam? Is it only Mecha or are artists banned from painting portraits too?
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>>1086590
How mature is this settings FTL technology? Is it pretty much stuck the way it is, or is there room for the Rinehawk to acquire a technobabble experimental interstellar engine?
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>>1086614
Not sure, but if IIRC, ships have a built-in FTL drive that takes 24 hours to spool up and are in-system only. To travel in between solar systems require a giant ass Gate that works like a slingshot to boost starships to their intended destination.
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>>1086552

There are a lot of so-called "lost systems" that no longer have gates, and if it weren't for the war the SSL's main focus would be on finding them and repairing/replacing their gates so they can rejoin the galaxy. Remember that a gate is basically a one-way hole through space, you don't need a gate where you're GOING to send a ship there, just to get back. So in theory you could send an Arapaima colonization and gate construction ship with its attached ansible, have it send coordinates for any supplies it needs, and its technicians can build the gate with the proper support.

>>1086575

It's extremely expensive, but the real kicker is the sheer power requirements and the strength of the supercomputer that performs the calculations for warp more than needing an Unobtanium Matrix or Dilithium Crystals...although it does take some esoteric materials.

As for the ansibles, consider what Qu'lir was like under the CUSS. Do you really want your genetically engineered catgirls for domestic ownership to have access to the information available in the wider galaxy and maybe realize that their situation is awful? That's how you get kitties like Palmyra the four-ears. Worse, do you want them to let the galaxy at large know what's going on? Remember, they hadn't seen PCs until the SSL showed up and started selling them to the natives. The wealthy had their own means to communicate with clients.

The Solar System has a much, much better communications network than most because they seeded the system with ansible satellites. The SSL could easily build an ansible satellite for Qu'lir and that would be 100% a priority if they take this world, but right now it would help the Avalonians more than them because the SSL has portable ansible ships and Avalon doesn't even if Arapaimas are costly and large.
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>>1086662
I know. I want to avoid creating a gigantically expensive gate with large political ramifications that we don't need in the scale that a Macro gate supplies.
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>>1086672

Obviously we should design a gate ship.
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>>1086590
>for their patented "black out the sky with jets" fighting style.
"The Kujan fighting style never holds back its full force against an enemy!"


I just can't wait to see that in action.
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>>1086672
>>1086685
>>1086690
A "Gate ship" would be perfect, something that could do jumps on its own...

But there is the problem of what we would do with the rest of our forces, and that even if we could go "there and back again" it would be impossible to bring reinforcements.

But...

>Raiding Avalon from out of nothing when they are leastly expecting it.
>Or Qul'r
>...Or a Lots system main planet.
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>1086489

Part of it is that Avalonian ships are based off planetary assault designs where all of the guns are on the front. In the right formation, where they can cover each other or where the target is within their front firing arc, this gives them a lot of punch...but ironically the best ship to fight them with is something like the Rhinehawk that can get behind them. It also has to do with the whole Avalonian "not turning your back on the enemy" thing.
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>>1086706

Obviously we bridge them to the coordinates first before the logistics ship follows them.
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>>1086609

A Wels has more firepower, a lot more, even face-to-face against the Rhinehawk where it can't do a full broadside and bring its smaller beam battery to bear a Wels will still have more range and more damage. The Rhinehawk, though, is faster and tankier with its dual-matrixed shield. That speed also makes it more maneuverable.
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>>1086672
>>1086719

Thanks for putting up with my questions Wong. How long are you sticking around for? Cause I've got a bunch more.
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>>1086739
Wed session should be starting soonish actually.
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>>1086747
Oh right. In that case...

>>1086739
Did you ever say if you were canonizing that transforming mech I pitched as the original jet mecha?

Are Mechs as prevalent in other systems as they are in Sol and Avalon?

What's the name of the current Eyrie Industries/Lunar main combat mech?
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>>1086719
>>1086771
>Are Mechs as prevalent in other systems as they are in Sol and Avalon?
I'm curious about that too
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BEAMMMMM HAAAAAAAAAARMONICAAAA
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>>1086672
>>1086706
Well.. it does give me an idea for something. A sort of 'temporary' gate. If energy and a strong computer are the main ingredients, having a sort of projector or ring shooter may be plausible. Could have it fire from the front of the rhinehawk and then use that to move a small fleet. If the energy is kept separate, it also means we can do a normal jump as well.
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>>1087032
Sounds like the Corsair from Infinite Space.
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>>1087035
Infinite Space 2 when
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>>1087032
I'm betting that the energy requirements are big enough that you'd need a massive ship made explicitly for the purpose of making warp gates.
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>>1086707
If they cover each other would it be possible to pull a Gato on them?
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>>1087035
>>1087088
My brethren of good taste.
>>1087098
Not necessarily. Such huge power requirements would be needed to likely keep it stable indefinitely and the portal big. But if you were to devote power from the shields, guns, and some thrusters to create a smaller, limited time one, it could possibly be done. It's all conjecture and in the end would require us to steal something HUGE.. or snatching it from some secret logs.
>>1087126
AVALON, I HAVE RETURNED!
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>>1087088
Never, Sega undersold it everywhere but Europe (where it sold poorly) so they missed a bunch of sales after it sold out. It failed by being successful.

I really wish they would though, I loved playing that game.

Though I did find this one game called Infinite Space III: Sea of Stars. Which is weird because it was made by an indie dev, not Platinum Games, and is completely different from Infinite Space. I don't know how it's flow below Sega's radar, they're fanatic about shutting down people that violate their copyrights.

I'm still salty they killed Nia though. She was by far the best character.
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>>1087032
>>1086672
It actually gave me a hilarious idea for a budget gate. It should work, its completely Iron Kestrals, and it will absolutely enrage the purists in the gate construction community.
First, we need a supercomputer. Not much I can see around that, though we can totally cheat on the power requirements. What you need to do is rely on capacitors instead of current generating power. This obviously reduces the frequency with which you can use the gate, but we don't expect the sheer amount of traffic that the other three gates use so a longer recharge time is acceptable. Now, you could rely on some sort of proprietary ultra efficient next gen capacitor like some sort of filthy TERRAN, or we can do things the tried and true belt way. Mechanical brute force on a massive scale, represented by a ton of mechanical flywheels.
Screw propriety technology. Screw complicated next gen systems. We're going to put a bunch of hamster wheels in space to power an intersteller wormhole and by god its going to WORK.
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>>1087143
Truth.

And the feeling you get when you obtain your first battleship is fucking orgasmic.
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>>1087154
Can anyone else review this crazy idea? Can this really work?

So it would end up working like a normal jump, right? we don't even need to bring an entire fleet with us, one Rhinehawk level ship would be more than enough to go around mass pillaging people through the galaxy.
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>>1087178
Flywheels absolutely work to store energy. Hell, NASA uses them right now. They will work even better farther away from a planet like around Psyche. I don't think it would be a particularly mobile system, but for other uses it should absolutely work.
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>>1087154
It's probably be easier to just steal a bunch of mech cores and hook them up.

Technically, we should be able to make a fusion reactor from scratch considering the sheer amount of material we have to work with in the belt.
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>>1087135
I still don't understand how the nuke was big enough to destroy all those ships
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>>1087208
Because Japan seems to think nukes are the end all be all weapon for some reason.
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>>1087204
>It's probably be easier to just steal a bunch of mech cores and hook them up.
Why? They're basically hunks of spinning metal. Metal's one thing we will have in abundance once Psyche is online.
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>>1087208
i shouldnt have worked.

Nukes have a huge AOE on earth partially due to the atmosphere. In a vacuum, their area of effect would be much more reduced.
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>>1087217
I mean, it makes sense that they would since they're the only people to experience one first hand.
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>>1086690
>>1086706
>>1086715


You aren't serious about this, right?
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>>1087221
It they hit something directly all that heat is only going one way.
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>>1087225
Me? Not really. Just throwing ideas into the void.
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>>1087225
I'll only support it if it would actually work. I'd like to be Valantin.
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>>1087225
Not [i]yet[/i].
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>>1087225
Why not? Well... Maybe not for now, but for generation 2? Sure.

In fact, it depends more on if our engineers and mechanics can do it, and how much time it will take to have SSL out of ours asses for now... When fairchild is out of the way and we have more independency it'll be the perfect time for opening up possibilities with this.
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>>1087225
I would like to be able to explore the wider setting with our shiny ship without shooting our way through the Jupiter Gate, or agreeing to fight Avalon since I actually like them.
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>>1087225

I have a semi-plausible design that should work that allows a ship to create the wormhole, enter and drag the hole production bits of the ship with it.
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>>1087225
would we become a #1 priority in getting killed in everyone's list?
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>>1087225
I still think we should turn out two colonies but Axis and have. A mobile capital that can raid. But that's just me
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Alright, whoa, I'm nipping this in the bud NOW.

You want a ship that creates an inherent logistical advantage over every other civilization. One that, if it was possible to build, the much more well-funded nations would 100% already have created because it would be a complete gamechanger for themselves and their military strategy. No. Absolutely not.

>and it should be able to transport a fleet too!

There are not words for how hard I am scowling at this. Even bringing it up outside of a joke borders on insulting.

The amount of power it takes for a full-sized gate to activate is immense. The gates themselves are huge satellites on the scale of COLONIES.

>>1087126

I haven't seen that one yet, I heard Nina cucks Kou.
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>>1087261
ok, hahaha.
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>>1087261
Well there goes being Valantin
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>>1087261
Not physically
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>>1087261
I had a feeling that would be the case. Sorry Wong.

>I haven't seen that one yet, I heard Nina cucks Kou.

Outside of Nina, it's a very good OVA. I love the Dendrobium.
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>>1087261
Fair enough. What if scenario crushed like an ant by a colony.
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I am posting a picture just so everyone sees this because holy shit I cannot believe anyone even took this seriously as an idea.

Fuck. No.

It also bothers me a lot that as soon as it was brought up people started talking as if it would "of course" be allowed and how they wanted it to work.

No, don't make a disappointed "gee I guess not..." post. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
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>>1087261
The problem is that from the players perspective the gates are functionally equivalent to those assholes in Pokemon who stand in the middle of the road stopping you from going and doing fun stuff. Its a hard block from exploring certain areas that's functionally impossible to bypass for Roarke. It really shouldn't be a surprise at all that players are looking to bypass that limitation in any way feasible, and getting mad at them for wanting to do so is silly.
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>>1087261
Okay... Intead of this, could we make a ship that jumps more than the normal distance(1AU I believe? You said it on one of the earlier threads)? Maybe the twice or the triple? How many jumps should it take to reach the closest system? Didn't Avalon did something like this once when they didn't even have jumpsystems yet?
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>>1087274
Ahh.. yeah. My apologies there. Went a bit too far with the idea and should not have. Still, thank you for clearing that up. I did not mean any real harm, just general curiosity and trying to do something weird as per usual.
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>>1087261
Yep.

To expand on it from what I heard, halfway through Stardust Memories the director changed to someone else, who decided that Nina being Gato's ex would make the story more dramatic, and at the very end, Nina decides to stop Kou from shooting Gato. Gato then uses this opportunity to finish his dastardly plans, and fucks up the American Midwest as a result, allowing the feds the justification they need to create the Titans.
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>>1087274
I just wanted to be Valantin.
Actually I just ignore everything like this but the most general idea until you say something about it. I'm not a very good poster.
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I mean, don't you think even BEFORE the SSL, back in the CUSS days and even before that, the early gate days, they had all of these same ideas and made the gates as small and efficient as physics would let them be?

>we'll just ignore IPs clearly that's the issue

NEIN!

>just a little fleet

NEIN!

>b-but Wong-sama

NEIN NEIN NEIN!
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>>1087293
So in essence, everything past 0083 is Nina's fault.
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>>1087278
alpha centauri is 5 light years away, converted into astronomical units it would be a total of 316205AUs

Now, it would be 866.315068 years with 1 AU jumps, 1 jump a day(assuming no velocity adjustements with the main engines). How feasable do you think it is now? Even with the ships engines you would still need a generation ship for a multi century journey.

Jumping is only useful for intra-system travel.
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>>1087299
Wong, relax. We are just having a bit of fun
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>>1087275

Oh, you misunderstood. I don't have any problem with you guys somehow ACQUIRING a gate.

It's making it mobile that enrages the Wong.
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>>1087299
>>1087308

Not gonna lie, seeing you rant while posting those reaction images is far more amusing than chastising.
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>>1087278

Avalon went the "colonists on a huge starship in cryosleep" route, actually preceding the invention of gates. That's why you see the names of rich Earth families you're familiar with cropping up. As a civilization they've existed for a comparatively short time because they left before gates and arrived well after they were created.

Going one light year is something like 173 years of voyage time if you jump every day using the Rhinehawk.
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>>1087321
Were they a bunch of LARPers or something?
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>>1087314

That's why I post them. I'm actually smiling, that's why I have to take this extra effort to be firm in my absolute denial of this idea.
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>>1087308
I would assume that gates would also be somewhat fixed because putting them in an accelerating frame of reference (in general relativity terms) would be very bad for the area around them. But sine the Terra gate is a thing I wouldn't count on it.
It could also mess with the navigation software, needing to recalculate everything from scratch all over again, leaving it unusable for a few months/weeks as it reboots.

Just giving you some more ammo wong
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what happens if you somehow drop a gate on a planet?
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>>1087336
you lose a valuable gate as it burns up in atmosphere
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>>1087336
Well since they're the size of colonies, I imagine it would be like the colony drop in Gundam.
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>>1087308
See, the reason why people, including me, are unapologetically looking for alternatives is that the three gates that are potentially acquirable happen to be 3 of the 4 best defended gates in the entire setting. Which makes acquiring one a nontrivial challenge than should be avoided if feasible.
>>1087299
Considering that my proposal would make a gate much less useful for its primary intended purpose of moving large amounts of commerce? Absolutely not. Different intended uses lead to different design constraints. A rural dirt path is cheaper than an interstate highway, and always will be. Also, technology is clearly progressing in your setting, so if some new superdense reactor created for the Wels class has applications for gate construction it absolutely would not surprise me.
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>>1087321

How long ago did Avalon get established then?

>>1087325
Rich Earth families operate on a very different mindset than normals. I'm not surprised they established themselves as nobility in a monarchy.

Actually, that brings up another thought. Wong, what's the name of the Queen's house?
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>>1087336

Tremendous devastation from the kinetic impact and a broken gate. Even if it was active at the time going through atmosphere would break it badly enough and soon enough that it wouldn't just telescoop a chunk of planetary crust. You'd probably get a bit of atmosphere whiff on the other end of the gate before it failed, though, IF it was active.
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>>1087342
thing is, if we somehow manage to build our own gate, than EVERYONE is going to come knocking at our door, most likely with Wels-class cannonfire since there's no way in hell anyone if going to allow pirates to keep their own personal gate, no matter how shitty it is..
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>>1087345
But that doesn't explain why they regressed back to a peudo-medieval culture though.
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>>1087353
K, no stealing a chunk of the moon or earth that way then, not that that would have been feasible even if a chunk came though the other side, after all getting the gate to drop would be basically impossible due to the defenses around them.
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>>1087358
Someone took the 'living like kings' thing a little too seriously.
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>>1087357
Which brings us back to the "assholes from pokemon" problem. In all honesty, most of the issue comes from being in the SSL's backyard. Its definitely hardmode for an up and coming pirate warlord.
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>>1087353
Soooooo.

What we could do is basically spaceballs suck the atmosphere from a planet if we kept it in hi or low orbit.
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>>1087342

Your proposal was to make it bigger and cruder and slower at the cost of recharge speed, correct?

Don't get me wrong. It's not that I haven't thought about all of this at length, to the point where I made it a point that getting through the Jovian Gate was a pain in the ass...it's that people are demanding one and then arguing with me that they should be allowed to have it if it's orky enough that would hypothetically make me want to scrap any hypothetical plans I made to resolve this issue and make Eisentor a lot more literal.
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>>1087358
Keep the Peasants down. I'm pretty sure the Nobles still have fairly advanced technology but it's not much more advanced than the tech they took with them on the cryoship.
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Wong, are there space pirate gangs on systems without a gate? If so, can we eventually have them join up?
Is there, by any chance, a small grouping of worlds not related to SSL or Avalon that managed to keep a small inter system network up?

I like hypotheticals.
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>>1087321
Uhhhh... Okay...

Alternatively, how well does cryosleep works on this universe? Is it safe? Do you really stop aging? Or do you just age more slowy?
...Is there anyone on cryosleep right now that would be worthy to ransom?
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>>1087373
Eisentor won the name-off? How'd I miss that?
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>>1087377
If we get access to a gate we could send out ships to different systems to recruit pirates
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>>1087377
Getting people BACK from a system without a gate would be the real issue.
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>>1087357

Hypothetically they can't do that unless they know where it is. Auditorium, that's a matter of public record. The Suleimans? Civilian colonies, much harder to get the coordinates because they're needles in a haystack, but in theory they could be located from anyone with a list of Sheikh Ahmad's assets. 16-Psyche is relatively easy to find given its size, it's been well-tracked.

Then you have countless little pirate dens and abandoned mines/factories/prison camps scattered all over the belt that aren't on any charts, isolated communities run by weird religious cults, etc. Those places you haven't conquered yet (prior to the timeskip anyway), and that's a testament to how hard they are to find. Theoretically if you had whatever supplies you need delivered to one of your public colonies, you could have Jove-knows-what frittered away deep within the Belt.
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On a VERY Different note, did all the tourney contenders submit theme songs and did Thunder record them?

Actually, Thunder, did you make that new mixtape?
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>>1087391
Or what if the colony ship it was mounted on was mobile and travelled throughout the belt with a roaming fleet.

I know you didnt want a ship that could port itself but what if the structure itself moved through realspace.
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>>1087373
>Your proposal was to make it bigger and cruder and slower at the cost of recharge speed, correct?
Roughly correct. Its more that it cuts capability to cut costs. The specific ratio of power generation to capacitor capacity was left deliberately undetermined since I didn't pretend to think I knew enough to make any comments there relevant. Frankly, the specific capacitor technology used is largely irrelevant, and I mentioned flywheels mostly because I thought it sounded like the sort of solution Karen would come up with. Also, I found the image funny.
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>>1087358

Technology aside, what makes our culture more advanced? The idea that society follows an inevitable course of progress towards a specific end was coined by Karl Marx, a man who wrote about factories he never visited, and talked about workers while living off his best friend's parents' fortune. Even then, what stops language or fashion from adopting modes we see as archaic? For example, the closest thing to a medieval English accent is not the standard Oxford or "Educated Bonger" accent, but the dialect employed by rural American Southerners, according to etymologists.

>>1087375

Avalon had pretty advanced medical technology and as far as they were concerned they were extremely enlightened and had "pretty much abolished war". Of course, their medical technology was about on par with Jovian, and they lagged behind in everything else because they viewed their society as an enclosed paradise under the Second Telethirien Dynasty, prior to the Lady's arrival.
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>>1087392
we were supposed to submit theme songs? uh shit I don't have much that fits...
also, anyone got an up to date tourney listing, I still wasn't on the list last time I checked...
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>>1087379

It seemed to have more support than Falconia.


>>1087377

You don't know, it's certainly possible, but having an inter-system network without gates is kind of wonky.

>>1087397

There are no colony ships and no roving gate ever period especially in gen 1.
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>>1087416
As a side note, does Psyche's colonies have names? Because I nominate one to be Agartha, the city that supposedly exists at the center of the earth. Its amusingly appropriate for a colony on a planetary core.
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>>1087411
It's optional.

And you'll have to ask BRanon for the tourney list.
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>>1087416

Clarification. There are ships intended for the purpose of colonizing places. These are not actual flying space colonies, and you need something on that scale to construct a gate.
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>>1087411

It's the first I've heard of theme songs and honestly I had no plans to play theme music for different pilots.
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>>1087391
Thats.. a good point. Could also disguise it or make it 'detachable' to a degree(as in powering it down, dismantling it, but not really moving it). A ring of asteroids near some weird colony cult that worships the great SPACE TUBE would be avoided by just about everyone.
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>>1087378

You know as much about that as you IRL know about any ancient medieval art rendered useless by modern tools. Less, even.
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>>1087409
I didn't mean it in a more advanced sense, more like an... older version. Like rolling back software. Medieval culture had, at some point, morphed into the Renaissance and kept changing from there until it became today's society. It must have kept changing from there, until eventually the settlers got on the life ship, got to Avalon and decided to roll their culture back to a version 2000 years old. Cultural values weren't a concern, just how they somehow jumped back to knights serving kings and such. Past everything in between.

Another example would be how Chinese culture before the Warring States went through flux in that period, and had at some point came out as Imperial China. And then changed again when Mao decided he wanted to wipe his yellow ass on 4 millennia of culture.
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>>1087411
>>1087427
http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS
Although this appears to have not been updated in a while, since it's STILL using the old Libra pastebin.
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>>1087437
Kathrine's theme song is obviously whichever song Red Siren wants to promote right now.
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>>1087403

Regardless of all that it doesn't cut it enough to make it mobile. That was my problem with it, that and people working themselves up into a lather of enthusiasm over technology that logically would not exist because if it did Fairchild would be sitting on one with Bethany Cabot on her lap...and then making puppy eyes at me for telling them no.
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>>1087451
Tell us what she would personally choose.
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>>1087392
I never ended up making a new mixtape because nobody really seemed like they wanted it, but it people want to know sure we can make another mix tape for Roarke. Remember 80s music and 18 tracks

1.The Touch - Stan Bush
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>>1087453
I never thought it would. Personally, I thought it was reasonable to assume that new technological developments might make it feasible, that happens all the time IRL, but if it doesn't, it doesn't.
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>>1087449
>tfw I just knew that you're going to get mad over it.
...Sorry senpai, things is that I started reviewing everything again before making changes... But you have a great number of loadouts, and I got distracted by the anon with the Gyrosomething.... And forgot to add you again.

was lastly update to include the Rolling Thunder I think, does anyone else needs to change something or get in?

>>1087446
Oh, I thought that it was more like a common medical knowledge or something... Thats okay.

Wong... will the Phacyde get in the Tourney? Or should I remove it from the list? Didn't you said that you would think about it?
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>>1087448

That's the problem, this word regress. The desire for a strong leader is intrinsic to humankind and pops up again and again no matter how often we go "no let's be 100% democratic and hamper the ability of our leaders to get shit done but also potentially go tyrantmode". The terminology just happened to mirror what was romanticized at the time. That's why you have kings and queens instead of Nork-style "president for life". Avalon's original settlers remembered the Nuclear Conflict better than modern-day SSL natives, it was nearer to their minds and culturally romanticism was back in vogue because it hearkened to an era before nukes and pollution and weapons that could wipe out entire cities. As for knights, the establishment of a martial class to settle disputes was inevitable, and clearly delineating it from the peasants served to mark who was and was not a target in the pseudo-wars Avalon fought before the Lady fell from the sky.
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>>1087437
honestly I was just going to play fighting game music just to psyche myself up during the matches. Not really themesongs.
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>>1087459
Uh, I have no idea.

Beat It? I've always loved that song.
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>>1087459
Highway to Hell
If you only get a handful, switch some of the older songs out. I distinctly remember that there a few songs we wanted to remove.
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>>1087475
Sure

1.The Touch - Stan Bush
2.Beat it - Michael Jackson
3.Highway to Hell - ACDC

>>1087479
If it comes I will

And did we ever decide what our song with Lori would be?
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>>1087470
Oh, I get it now. They originally used the terminology to get people to fall in line more easily since everyone knew it and eventually they started taking it seriously.
So then I guess the same sort of thing happened to Mars too?
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>>1087462

Listen. I'm not trying to be a dick (which of course means that I'm probably about to be one), but pray that it never, ever, ever happens and becomes feasible, because if it does the planetary powers will get it long before you do. I'm saying that technological development is not going to occur ever, there is no "might", there is no "comparison to real world tech to guilt Wong", there is a flat "QM says no", and I am doing it for YOUR sake. I understand your personal viewpoint, and without going into detail about how gates work and why microgates can push the ship carrying them through but have a very low ceiling for how much more mass they can transport while macrogates can stay open for much longer and push larger chunks of matter (still smaller than themselves) through, I am saying that while before I was pretty confident it will never happen now I am ADAMANT there will never be a gate ship.
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>>1087409
>Technology aside, what makes our culture more advanced?
Even the law is a form of technology, isn't it? Like money, and the economy.
Today's societies are "generally" more technologicaly developed in dealing with some human problems and executing certain functions... And some of them are much more based on logical thinking about things than...Lets say... Certains feuds a hundred years just after the fall of rome.
In fact, one of the things that appeal to many people inside somo forms of politics(like Ancaps) is that they are much more based in logical and philosofical thinking than certains societies of that past that were based on "Might makes right" or "That guy with a silly hat told us so".

But being quite honest with you... Some forms of monarchy are much better in many senses than some of the democracies that we have today, and for me isn't a surprise that some people would like to go back to that days.

Logically justifing Brazil existence is an absurd mess, with the entire nation being based on people just stealing territories from one another repeatly and making constitutions based on "I thought that this would be cool" even when it doesn't even makes sense from basic philosofical views, it just makes me rage on this just from remembering it... And I didn't even get on the part about the actual one describing on how we should all be living in some sort of socialist paradise, while implying that everyone should be enslaved to death if necessary to make it work...
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>>1087463
>Pharcyde

Of all the damned things to bring up when people are still arguing with me about mobile gates.

Is the player still around?

I'll say it bluntly. The pilot sounds like a member of what is an actual domestic terrorist group operating in MY homeland, destroying property and attacking members of MY ethnicity with the full support of a complicit, foreign-funded media. They have ambushed and killed our law enforcement officers. They use the same logic that a man used to justify shooting MY beloved little brother. I know it sounds extreme, but they attacked members of one of my favorite boards on this website and probably would have killed them if a /k/ommando hadn't opened fire under duress. They're standing trial right now for exercising their sovereign rights to defend their lives from a mob, while the local newspaper writes articles about those poor fucking rioters and how they feared for their lives after trying to gang up on and murder a small group of white and Asian men after discovering their victims have teeth. I don't trust myself to treat the Pharcyde or its pilot fairly. If the player submits a different pilot to me, he's in. If not, he's out.
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>>1087508

"I'm a rebel fighting the man teehee" got a lot less funny when they tortured a special needs kid.
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Might not be the best time to ask this, but how do FTL coms work? The ones we've seen seem to allow people to casually play Bluegrill Joe through them, but can we cut bandwidth to allow us to just receive important news so it doesn't take up a ton of space or is it a hard cap?
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>>1087518
Yeah.. I saw that. With friends and family with phsyical and mental disabilities, it's something I would not stand for. Bloody extremists.
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>>1087487

What do you mean by that?
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>>1087463
I'm not really mad, I'm just very paranoid about Wong accidentally using an outdated model on accident. So if I sounded like I was mad, I apologize.
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>>1087508
God damn. Your brother was ok right?
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>>1087508
Sorry to hear about your brother. Some asshole will always use the legitimate grevances of others to justify their own criminal actions and they are terrible people.
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>>1087518
At least they're being tried properly. Last I heard the police considered it a hate crime because they targeted him for being white.

>>1087524
How they adopted the Islamic Empire way of spreading Islam by any means necessary, that died out when the Ottoman Empire moved away from it. At least I think it died out, I'm not up to date on Middle East politics beyond "everyone hates Israel."

Sorry, I don't really know a better way to describe it. I had assumed it was an intentional parallel between Mars and Avalon, since the Martians despise everything associated with the Greenmen so much. It would be ironic for their cultures to be born from the same circumstance.
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>>1087523

This. I know the Pharcyde's pilot is a silly parody and we have a lot of those in this quest, but it's a parody that got a lot less funny when "fuck the police they're not after me because I'm a criminal but because I'm a minority so my crimes don't matter" became an actual viewpoint people take seriously and is being viewed as worthy cause by one of two major parties in the strongest nation on the planet. I just can't associate hip-hop kid fighting the man with being a comic figure when there are packs of them assaulting supporters of the sitting president. It's like asking Thunderbird to give the Lady of the Woods a hug and have her get married to Roarke to conquer the SSL.

>>1087519

Ansibles are honestly something I ripped off as a reference to the Ender's Game series mostly as an excuse for people to communicate without having tremendous lag, I believe it has something to do with electrons that are twinned mimicking each other through quantum bullshit across any distance or something. Or maybe there were tiny Portugese pig aliens who nurse on trees, it's been a while.

...Why do you ask?
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>>1087524
>>1087545
By their cultures, I mean Mars and Avalon.
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>>1087518
This was just horrible, and its just bizzare that someone can even try to defend this type of people after what they did...
I hope that Trump can change this absurd situation while he is still in charge... But I doubt that the people that have interests in formenting these sorts of conflicts and chaos will give up easily.
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>>1087482
Do we already have "Bad" by Michael Jackson?
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>>1087555
No, but I only really do one per anon so more people can get a choice in probably won't come to that
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>>1087546
>Ansibles are honestly something I ripped off as a reference to the Ender's Game series mostly as an excuse for people to communicate without having tremendous lag, I believe it has something to do with electrons that are twinned mimicking each other through quantum bullshit across any distance or something. Or maybe there were tiny Portugese pig aliens who nurse on trees, it's been a while.

Quantum Entanglement Communicators. Actually a really cool concept if you want me to give you the quick version of it.
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>>1087560
Maniac - Michael Sembello

For Lori, because of the way the loves using her legs for dancing, swimming and so on.
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>>1087546
>Ansibles
What you're describing was the idea of quantum entanglement, which is now unfeasible because entanglement gets broken when either of the two particles get changed in any way.

How about "ansibles FTL data across space, which has nil power requirement because it's fucking tiny"?
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>>1087569
Anon, you should probably let it go.
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>>1087546
>Ansibles are honestly something I ripped off as a reference to the Ender's Game series mostly

I always liked the later books since the way they represented space aliens was extremely interesting and a breath of fresh air from the usual "human with unusual skin color" or "animal + human" we usually see. Although I don't think I ever read the last book of the Ender series.
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>>1087576
What?
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>>1087546
It's a viewpoint that is backed up by strong ancidotal and statistical evidence. African Americans are far more likely to be charged, convicted and sentenced for the same crime as a white person, and for a longer prison term. Does that mean that the police are evil? Hell no. The vast majority are good people doing the best job they can. Does that mean that a violent criminal shouldn't be thrown in jail? Hell no. Does it mean that African American claims that the US judicial system is rigged against them are true? Unfortunately, yes. This is hardly a new phenomenon, and it's certainly been worse during other portions of our history, but the problem still exists. And a reflexive "the police officer is always right" mentality is not going to help matters.
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>>1087584
That may be, but yelling about being persecuted for something, then doing the thing does not paint you in a light that can be considered good. Same with saying you are peaceful protest when you destroy a limo belonging not to a rich white man they say they hate, but by a immigrant because they simply do not care. As is, something is going to give, and the more they do this sort of shit, the less people are going to respect them. This time though, the president seems much more pro-active.
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>>1087584
Except what with all of the fake outrage the media has generated (Hand up don't shoot) it's difficult to tell what we should genuinely be outraged about. So now I can't help but be skeptical whenever I hear about yet another black getting shot by a cop.
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>>1087545

ISIS and the "moderate rebels" Obama armed in Syria do it today, actually. There are Christians in the Middle East being murdered as we speak, as much as Obama and John McCain pretended it didn't happen and actively made them one of the few Syrian groups without even a chance at refugee status because they're politically inconvenient. Spreading Islam by force if necessary enjoys shockingly high statistical support given the climate of the rest of the world.

Muslims ended up on Mars because they were widely blamed for the nuclear conflict and generally shunned, they got pushed into the wastelands and had the good fortune to be on a world the Green Men used as a flagship for their terraforming projects. They were additionally fortunate in that being less cosmopolitan and more rural meant the spores didn't reach them for a while and they had the chance to resist.

Hakim also flat-out butchered every religious leader among his own people who wasn't willing to get in line with Hakimite Islam. "One Mars, one Allah, one Islam" was his credo. He made it an absolute point of his rule that if you tried to bring back the sectarian violence of the old days or the terrorism that helped spark the human exodus from Earth after the nukes went off, he will dig you and your followers out and execute you wholesale.

This helped a lot more than it hurt when it came to the other SSL factions who hesitated at the idea of helping a Caliphate. The problem is, the old ways die hard, you saw Mohammed's reaction to seeing clan markings on the Cassim's Folly and that there is still support for spreading Islam by the sword, and Hakim cannot be everywhere at once and cannot entirely deny his people a right to share their faith even if he took steps to cut the rot out of Martian culture.
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>>1087608
>>1087611
At this point I just blame the media. All kinds, whoever's telling it. They blow things out of proportion and twist every story to fit their audience to get more clicks/views/whatever gets them money. It's all sensationalism, and it's all making everything worse because it incentivizes not making sure you're telling the truth.
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>>1087616
Oh, those were the exceptions to the rule. Sorry, I misunderstood.
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>>1087611
>>1087608
I hear you. Hell, the Furgison case that started this whole movement is a great example. The media rushed to judgement and it later turned out that the shooting was justified. It also turned out that the Furgison police department was horribly corrupt and incredibly racist, and had basically been extorting the African American residents through traffic tickets with the connivance of a local judge. Neither side likes to point out the ackward bit, but speaking personally, I don't blame the local protesters for not giving the cops the benefit of the doubt. Clearly they didn't deserve it in this instance.
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>>1087541

In through one side of the abdominal muscles and out the other. They'd pistol-whipped him and he was sort of sideways to them, holding his head I think or stumbling back, when they took the shot. Thank God it was just 9mm.

>>1087542

Don't you even try to excuse the rioters. Michael Brown's mother had Michael Brown's grandmother beaten for trying to sell Michael Brown t-shirts...not because it was disrespectful to the dead, but because she wanted the money herself. From the Soros paychecks to the people urging the rioters to "burn down the suburbs" to the politicians cynically encouraging it for social justice votes to the pathetic, pathetic cucks playing along in hopes of scoring liberal pussy there is not a legitimate bone in that movement barring perhaps the man who was killed by the NYPD dogpiling him and they would have killed him just as readily regardless of his color for selling loose cigarettes in a town that treats their cigarette tax (a pack that goes for $6 in stores in the midwest is $16 in NYC) like mafia profits. I don't respect them, not a single one.

>>1087584

There are a multitude of ways to interpret that evidence and I'd strongly advise we not discuss it before someone starts posting population comparisons with violent crime rates. Anecdotal evidence is worth jack shit and claims that the system is rigged are amplified by the media for views. The War on Drugs needs to end, and that's the only concession I'll make. Other than that, zero sympathy. If you think black cops arresting a black man in a town with a black mayor and black SAG in a country that had at the time a black president with a black nationalist AG is a result of racism we'll have to agree to disagree before I say something impolite. Grievance chasing is an industry and I hope Donald Trump puts a nail in its coffin.


As for their two flagships, Martin and Brown, I have no sympathy. Trayvon Martin having candy in his pocket doesn't mean he didn't brag about being a hardcore gangster on his social media with a history of violence even before he tried to splatter a member of the neighborhood watch's skull across the cement. Yeah, I would be nervous being followed by some guy through a residential neighborhood too, but I'd confront him, I wouldn't ambush him and try to kill him. As for Mike Brown, he choked a man half his size, a friendly little gas station clerk, so he could steal some blunt wraps, then tried to grab a cop's gun. If you go for a cop's gun, even if what you did originally merited jail rather than death, that's an automatic Darwin Award. That may sound harsh, but it's absolutely true. It's sad he decided to waste his life that way, it's disgusting that people tried to pass him off as a friendly stoner and lied to try and get revenge on the cop who shot him...led by an actual ambulance-chaser activist who coached them. It's disgusting, disgusting behavior and I will not give an inch to it.
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>>1087569

What they do is more important than how they do it, I guess.
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>>1087630
>>1087629
Fair enough I will let this lie... after pointing out that you just proved my point about both sides ignoring crucial details of the Ferguson mess.
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>>1087630
Honestly, the only death by cop I've seen recently that wasn't justified was that guy who was chock held to death. You don't accidentally strangle someone to death, you have to keep strangling them after they lose consciousness. Maybe the cops were on edge (he was a pretty big guy iirc) but there's no way you can be excused for suffocating someone. They're not dangerous after they lose consciousness.
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>>1087644
There was the guy who was shot down while running and had a taser planted on him post death. Then had multiple cops give blatantly false statements before the video showed up. That one was blatant enough that everyone basically abandoned the guy though.
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Guys, we can agree it's a fucked up situation overall, but can we get back to discussing Mechs?

Wong, when will the Mustang MP make its official debut? I want to steal some.
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>>1087518
>>1087508
I just imagined him as a younger black dynamite.
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>>1087627

You're misunderstanding now, a little bit.

It's not so much that there's a rule against it as Hakim for all of his skill and heroism cannot flat-out say "don't spread Islam in places where you uproot the Avalonian infidels" and remain Caliph. He also can't ensure that when it is spread it's spread without pressure. He's also old and notoriously without family, and there are people counting on him not being around forever. My point is, the crew of the Cassim's Folly are NOT an exception to the rule, but a natural outgrowth of the circumstances they're in. He's never even openly stated he doesn't want Islam to spread, which makes sense because as Trevor Luxol pointed out it provides a cultural unifying factor for the Caliphate.
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>>1087659
I meant originally, with how the government was set up. I though Hakim was all about spreading Islam no matter what and just wasn't doing it because he didn't know if he could beat Jupiter or not.
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>>1087629

At this point nobody takes the label "racist" seriously anymore. Liberal dogma holds that white men are born racist, sexist oppressors, and that only by agreeing and repenting through submission can they purge themselves of this sin.

>>1087643

And I will give a single shit when they start holding riots for the white kid who was shot for threatening to kill HIMSELF with a screwdriver by an out-of-town cop after two local cops had talked him into standing down. Or when they start holding protests for the little girls and elderly people killed in drive-by shootings by some punk who couldn't aim straight at another punk, or for the little boy who was executed in his own front yard because his big brother didn't want to join a gang, or for when Hollywood stops promoting members of the Crips and Bloods and a culture of violence, willful stupidity, and murder that actively ostracizes people who try to do better for themselves. I worked with kids from those inner cities for years, I've seen that jungle, I've seen what lurks in it, what fuels it, who pushes it from the safety of their coastal mansions and high-rise apartments, and I've seen what comes out of it. That's the reason why black people are incarcerated at a higher rate. There's your damned injustice. You want to do something about it? Find someone who makes those pushers squeal and give them every drop of your support, and until then don't you say that black lives matter to you and you want to stand against racism.


That's my last word on this.

>>1087657

Try the mechbay of the Iulia Maesa.
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>>1087674
>Try the mechbay of the Iulia Maesa.
inb4 someone tries to make a plan to steal them
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>>1087674
>white kid who was shot for threatening to kill HIMSELF with a screwdriver
Thats some judge dredd shit right there.
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>>1087662

Ideally he wants it to be strong, widespread, civilized, and enlightened. There's a balancing act and all of this is filtered through the lens of someone who can't read his mind, so yes I know I'm being vague. Except when you said spreading Islam by the sword ended with the Ottomans because that's flat-out wrong.
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>>1087695
Yeah, I was. I just like to avoid all that nasty news, you know? I don't like to get myself down reading about all the people that are dying and how ignorant and callous people can be in real life. I mean, I am a cancerous asshole on the internet, but that's because it's the internet. Nobody should take what I say seriously.

I just try to be thankful for what I have and that I don't have to deal with gang violence or religious zealots coming to cut my head off. My life's better than good and I don't want to make it worse.
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>>1087658

...and as he calmed down, Wong had an idea.
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>>1087712
I got to watch the boondocks again one of these days.
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>>1087712
Now see, this was a cool character. Boondocks was a pretty good show.
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So yes, Pharcyde is in.
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>>1087722
>Pharcyde
>phar cyde
>far side
Christ I almost wish I said nothing.
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>>1087727

Isn't that the name of the mech?
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>>1087712
I've never watched Boondocks. What am I missing?
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>>1087803
Yeah but its also one of those dumb hiphop names that I didnt get until I thought about it. Like how Flo Rida is just Florida with a space in it because the dude is from florida.
>>1087806
First three seasons are pretty good. Fourth season not so much. The main writer left or something.
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>>1087809
Sorry, meant more of "What am I missing about the character?"
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>>1087811
https://youtu.be/EZdWA3Z3lt4?t=6m25s
6.25 is probably one of the better examples.
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>>1087806

Possibly the best animated adaptation of a newspaper comic ever.
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Since I had the spare CP, and because why the hell not, I gave the Libra Design and Decor. Now the Libra's got the constellation on it's shield, although it's extremely unlikely anyone will recognize it.
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>lots of traffic in thread
>eyy thread's up
>relevant /pol/
>shit, thread's down
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>>1087834
This quest gets a shocking amount of traffic comparatively to the rest of the board
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>>1087837
probably because it's based on an actual system, and encouraged people to actually learn it by having the Space Jam tournament.
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>>1087837
Well, it came over from /tg/, and it's got people posting mechs, discussing gameplay and shooting the shit even when the QM ain't here.

Somehow it's managed to retain the old spirit of anons discussing things that /tg/ quests used to have.
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>>1087840
Ironically, I know pretty much all the ins and outs of making Mechs, but I still really don't know how the system works.
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>>1087846

A bit like the A-10 Warthog, a lot more functionally than you'd expect. God bless the Warthog.
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>>1087560
For a new 80's album
Yours Truly, 2095 - ELO
Or
Here is the News - ELO
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>>1087847
Much like how the Warthog was built around the GAU-8, Mekton's rules were built around its mech construction system.
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>>1087850
1.The Touch - Stan Bush
2.Beat it - Michael Jackson
3.Highway to Hell - ACDC
4.Yours Truly, 2095 - ELO
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>>1087837
Oh yeah, I took your recommendation to watch Giant Robo, watched the first 2 episodes and it is pretty damn good so far!
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>>1087855
It gets so much better. The Tragedy of Bashtarle is my favorite part by far
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>>1087299
So what you are saying is, It could be done. But the ship would be the size of a colony, and slow as hell, and could probably only carry Mecha and small craft that are docked along with it. and as such the perfect capital for space faring pirates
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>>1087882
Also, vulnerable as hell and prohibitly expensive enough that even the wealthiest factions in the galaxy would rather just build a orbital stationary gate rather than make them mobile.
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>>1087888
Honestly i am not even thinking of a ship here so much as a teleporting fortress
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>>1087882
>>1087902

Even if we built a mobile gate, which is just an engineering problem rather then a hard physics problem, It is most likely unable to transport itsef, so no interstellar shenanigans.

Also, given the fact that even smaller colonies like Auditorium lack microwarp gates, this ship probably cant use those either, so our "mobile"capital would be stuck puttering around on normal engines, making it easy to track for everyone with a big telescope.

There is just not a lot to gain for the ridiculous increase in cost that moving something like this would bring.
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>>1087854

Do we have TnT from ACDC already? otherwise we should really add it. Not just because it fits Roarke really well, but just in case we ever go to Qu'lir.

>"I hear ACDC"
>"Hey, it's that fake black ogre again. Let's kick his ass this time around."
>"HOLY SHIT IT'S THE REAL ONE! HIDE THE WOMEN! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!"
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>>1087392
Theme song? Crap! I never even thought about that for Victor and his Templar. Anyone have any ideas?
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>>1088050
Ain't no Rest For the Wicked?
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>>1088057
It took me a sec to get why you suggested that one. Not bad.
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What would happen if you pushed a gate through a slightly bigger gate while they were both on?
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>>1087882

Does "no" mean something I'm not aware of?
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>>1088136

Wong, please ignore him, he's just streching to get a rise out of you. We get that it is a borderline impossible and rather stupid idea, and it's not going to happen.
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>>1088061
Wait, Victor is the Libra's pilot, right?
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>>1088163
Templar's pilot
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>>1088185
What's his story again?

And what's the Libra's Pilot's name?
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>>1088276
Victor wants to be an author and uses his experiences to fuel his writing, like Ernest Hemingway. He likes interviewing people for more fodder for his stories.
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>>1087924
Nope

1.The Touch - Stan Bush
2.Beat it - Michael Jackson
3.Highway to Hell - ACDC
4.Yours Truly, 2095 - ELO
5.TNT - ACDC
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>>1088276
The Libra's pilot is Alexander Grant. And by merit of being based off an SRW character, already has his own personal theme song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQzaLOZwnMI
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>>1088421
Maniac-Michael Sembello

Its one music per anon, no? Here is mine.
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>>1088585
We already have that
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>>1088589
In which playlist?
Could you send me the pastebin?
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>>1088597
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B6iimHE85EZZZjRoaWVwQ3U2ZFk
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>>1088597

Hey BR anon, i finished the Gyrfalcon for the tournament. Thanks for your help last thread btw. Could you please add it to the pastebin when you have time?

http://pastebin.com/k7exp8MJ


>>1087392
No, i haven't. Let's correct that.

Michael Acre - Kickstart my heart (Mötley Crüe)
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>>1088421
Jukebox Hero- Foreigner

Not sure if we'll ever fight to it though.
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>>1088600
Thanks m8
What will be the name of this one?

Also: Queen - Gimme The Prize

Maybe play this when we fight Avalon? It fits with the theme.
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Okay, theme songs so far:

Alexander: Close Game Life
Victor: Ain't No Rest For the Wicked (?)
Inari: I Love Rock n'Roll
Maxwell: Can't Touch This
HUNK: Hunk's Theme

I'm suggesting "Somebody to Love" for Kathrine.

Just need suggestions for Finn, Akai, Mai, and the Pharcyde's pilot.

Wong, you don't need to play the songs, this is more for fun.
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>>1088698
Oh, and McClintock. Forgot about him.
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>>1088698
I really could use some help on choosing a song for Akai, I'm not much into music and most of my ideas are more "weeaboo" than really "Akai".

>>1088680
I'll give it a look.
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>>1088683
>>1088690

1.The Touch - Stan Bush
2.Beat it - Michael Jackson
3.Highway to Hell - ACDC
4.Yours Truly, 2095 - ELO
5.TNT - ACDC
6.Jukebox Hero - Foreigner
7.Gimme the Prize
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>>1088061
>It took me a sec to get why you suggested that one. Not bad.
"I was walking down the street,
When out the corner of my eye
I saw a pretty little thing approaching me
She said "I've never seen a man
Who looks so all alone,
Could you use a little company?
If you pay the right price
Your evening will be nice,
And you can go and send me on my way."
I said "You're such a sweet young thing
Why you do this to yourself?"
She looked at me and this is what she said,

"Oh, there ain't no rest for the wicked,
Money don't grow on trees.
I got bills to pay,
I got mouths to feed,
There ain't nothing in this world for free.
I know I can't slow down,
I can't hold back,
Though you know, I wish I could.
Oh no there ain't no rest for the wicked,
Until we close our eyes for good".

(...)
Now a couple hours passed
And I was sitting at my house,
The day was winding down and coming to an end.
So I turned on the TV
And flipped it over to the news,
And what I saw I almost couldn't comprehend.
I saw a preacher man in cuffs he'd taken money from the church,
He stuffed his bank account with righteous dollar bills.
But even still I can't say much
Because I know we're all the same,
Oh yes we all seek out to satisfy those thrills.

You know, there ain't no rest for the wicked,
Money don't grow on trees.
We got bills to pay,
We got mouths to feed,
There ain't nothing in this world for free.
I know we can't slow down,
We can't hold back,
Though you know, we wish we could.
No there ain't no rest for the wicked,
Until we close our eyes for good.

For you, is this more about what Victor already is, or about his character development after meeting ( ̶A̶k̶a̶i̶) the pirates?

In fact, now looking at this, it sounds really cool on how this could apply.
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>>1088742
it's also the fact that the singer is getting people to tell him their stories and reasons for their life decisions. but also he got to make all that money so that Akai can keep spamming all those missiles. Ammo like that ain't cheap.
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>>1088720
Depends on what you're going for really. I keep thinking of pop songs for her though.
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>>1088720
>>1088885
Joan Jett's "Cherry Bomb"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opHXmx3hB-k
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>>1088961
That's actually really apt. Admittedly, the version by The Runaways might be a bit more fitting.
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>>1088698
>Everyone always forgets the one mech that isn't humanoid
I know Brazil gave me a weird name for the character but I think I did an OK job
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We need some Styx up in here. Come Sail Away or Mr. Roboto seem appropriate.
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>>1089109
What was the pilot's name?
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>>1089196
Mai Uaifu
I'm a fan of silly jokes.
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>>1089189
Got you anon


1.The Touch - Stan Bush
2.Beat it - Michael Jackson
3.Highway to Hell - ACDC
4.Yours Truly, 2095 - ELO
5.TNT - ACDC
6.Jukebox Hero - Foreigner
7.Gimme the Prize
8.Mr.Roboto - Styx
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>>1089202
she's on there dude
>suggestions for Finn, Akai, Mai, and the Pharcyde's pilot.
sadly my murderbird mech never made it on the list it seems, not that I could come up with a good theme for the character anyway
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>>1089223
Oh, I guess I'm dyslexic or something.
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>>1089223
Oh, and you posted your mech last thread, right? That was the cutoff, so it should have gotten in.
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>>1089237
yeah, the cassowary mech beast... now to figure out what music might fit the pilot, ...severe older woman...widow... likes to go fast...
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>>1089256
You're kinda describing Inari.
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>>1089268
well damn, I suppose I could always change the character...
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>>1089268
Battle Grandma club!
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>>1089278
>>1089277
If Wong is willing to write it as an episode of Golden Girls, it might work.
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>>1089277
>>1089293

huh, reading Inari's description, there are a number of similarities, main difference is that Marciana (my pilot) wasn't a soldier and got married off to mars at a young age, the mech stuff came later as she got to know her husband who eventually died to some political maneuver. No kids to her regret.
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>>1089256
>>1089268
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>>1089303
We laugh, but with what happened during the War, there is likely several retirement homes full of A crew elders who are ready to mess shit up.
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>>1089336
i wonder if we can recruit them.
i wonder if there's a pirate band of extremely disgruntled retired people.
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>>1089301
Inari has several children and grandchildren but she was a bona fide ace during the War. She had to have her legs and an arm replaced with cybernetics after she was shot down but decided to wear an eye patch instead of getting a new eye.

She is actually of Indian descent, and it annoys her greatly to be mistaken for a Martian.
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>>1089301
>>1089347
wait... is 35 "old" old or just kinda old? cause that's about where I put Marciana, from the sound of it she'd be younger than Inari?
Also realized that her mech ties with the Lightning for fastest mech in the Tournament at 800m per turn.

also considering (Jupiter born) marciana was married to a martian noble there could be some shenanigan potential there.
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>>1089357
>35
>old
>when people easily live up to the 100 years
Anon...
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>>1089357
35 is just barely middle-aged. Inari is 63.

>>1089336
>>1089346

Funnily enough, Inari's main motivation for getting back in the cockpit was she despised the idea of wasting away in a retirement home. She'd rather die piloting her mech.
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>>1089367
>>1089368
I wasn't sure how old was too old for the tournament, I originally had her as being 45 then lowered it.
also BR, you got an updated tourney pastebin?
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>>1089378
Eating now,
Then I'll give last revision to the Cassowary and to the Gyrofalcon, before adding them in the list.
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>>1089378
So, less Battle Grandma and more, Battle MILF? Only without the M.
Battle Cougar? Battle Christmas Cake?
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Also, Libranon, you need to choose 4 loadouts for the tourney, this is the max that Wong allowed.
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>>1089378
>>1089435
Yeah I guess...
still no luck coming up with theme music... considering she kinda had a rich traditional upbringing I keep thinking classical but most classical music that fits a battle is a bit too "big", usually being more like final boss music
like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHqtJH2f1Yk

maybe a classical remix of some sort...
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>>1089449
>classical remix of some sort...

https://youtu.be/y1BkkQXn7FU
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>>1089442
It only has four loadouts. Standard, heavy, sniper, and ACP.
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>>1089357

Fun fact, the Gyrfalcon also moves at 800m per turn with the wings deployed, making it a three way tie.
But if you want to get technical, the Chimera is the fastest mech with a top speed of 900m per turn with that boosterpack.

>>1089464
Btw mechbay, i already made my choice.
>>1088680
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>>1089481
Hm... so I ignore the extra ones?
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>>1089464
Ah I know their stuff, might work!
found this when randomly looking around, it might work too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtKCNJmARF0

>>1089491
ah, missed the booster pack, cool!
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>>1089495
Everything below the final cost and weight is just fluff to explain the way each configuration works. You can exclude it from the paste if want
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and because I was bored and doing a food run, the idea of a fast food chain in the belt came to mind. Burger Belt, home to the Big Slam. A huge patty of planet Texas angus beef, served on a soft pretzel bun. Crisp lettuce and toppings, and inside the burger itself, a core of cheddar, mozzarella, and sauce. Once the Big Slam is mass produced, Burger Belt will be unstoppable! Also, have a video related on such things. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNHm4u4Ssr0
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>>1089109
It's okay, Everyone forgets about Gareth and the Wraith when they count up pilots and mechs
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>>1089536

> build super stealthy mecha
> it's constantly overlooked and treated like it does not exsist

well, you only have yourself to blame.
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>>1088742

I think I referenced this song twice in the quest, by the way.
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>>1089536
I've been doing that on purpose. I thought it was a joke since he's supposed to be super stealthy.
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>>1089536
In fact, they forgot about a third of the competitors
http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS
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Alexander: Close Game Life
Victor: Ain't No Rest For the Wicked (?)
Inari: I Love Rock n'Roll
Maxwell: Can't Touch This
HUNK: Hunk's Theme
Kathrine: Somebody to Love (?)
Akai: Cherry Bomb (?)
Michael: Kickstart my Heart

Still waiting on McClintock, Mai, and I guess Gareth?

What's Mai's Character again?

>>1089536
Can you jog my memory?
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>mfw my kung fu master just showed up tonight I will have to give him some attention today.
I'll try to update the list before morning... *sigh*

Also, I approve of this idea: >>1089534
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>>1089569
I pulled a random song on my phone and got Audiomachine - Blitzkrieg. It kinda fits Mai since she pilots a tank, but also not really because she's supposed to be a nerd for models of mobile armors and large planes.
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>>1089534
mother fucking american.
i approve!
it needs bacon though
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>>1089558
Hey, BR, you can use this as the most up to date version of the Myrmidon. http://pastebin.com/ba4s5xsc

Haven't actually made any changes.
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>>1089569
Gareth Rains, Former Member of the Ghost of Saturn Mercenary group. son of 2 doctors from a Manufacturing Colony at Saturn.
Wraith MKII Custom Stealth Bluegill
Theme: Propulsion Overdrive - Dynatron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKHRerwGXwU
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And that's enough romantic interlude. You are, once more, Lieutenant Amos A. Wedge, the Blue Knight of the UJCIDF.

You don't have time to relieve any stress with Irina that night, she spends every second after the S-Squilla is brought in working. She works all through the night, long after you collapse into your bunk to rest up for tomorrow's mission. You're vaguely aware of her settling in beside you, finally, sprawled out on the bed with one arm loosely draped across your chest, fingers slightly bent as if trying to hold onto you in her sleep. When your PC's alarm buzzes, she's the first thing you see, with a faint smile on her face. There's a note taped to her easel along the wall, with two words written extra-large and with several underlines. 'IT'S READY.'

You eat a light breakfast, drink some coffee, and get to the mechbay. The S-Delphinius awaits you. Two long thruster nacelles stick out from its back where the center of the shoulderblades would be on a human, creating the impression of a wasp's narrow wings, and the pauldrons have been enlarged with another pair of large maneuvering verniers. Colonel Luxol stands at the rail, admiring it. He smiles at you approach, and tosses you a casual salute, “I've already said good luck to my brother and Ensign Biggs. May fortune smile on you, Lieutenant, although with that monster you might not need it. I like it almost as much as my own Percheron.”

“Percheron, sir?” You glance around, and he pulls out his PC and shows you a picture of a slender, blue mech with long, narrow limbs, small wings, a protruding cockpit, and smooth, clean lines. It's pretty, but it's got those pointed space-combat feet you're not really a fan of. It's got a folding blade on one arm, longer than a Pumpkinseed I's.

[Continued, and to clarify, this is a picture of the Percheron, not the completed Delphinius, which looks like the Gyan Krieger]
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>>1089611
Does it still have the silly WWI head spike?
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“My Percheron, the last breath of genius from Bucephalus' goose who laid the golden eggs before that thug Major Cabot killed him. It almost wasn't built, but fortune brought it to me in the end. The original Mustang frame I wanted to keep out of General Fairchild's greedy little paws, so I sent it with a friend of mine to accompany SOUL A on a hostage exchange mission. I was relying on the Jaburo's technicians to finish equipping the prototype setup, and hoped to have A's melee specialist and ranged pilots take it for a spin and deliver separate reports on its effectiveness...but the Iron Kestrels decided to play a little game with them and an unaffiliated mercenary. Alas, the Jaburo's commander was...and still is...smitten with him, and when his mech was destroyed she used the frame, the weapons, and much of the original armor with a rejected S-Slinger head design to create a replacement mech for him. I got what I wanted, though, SOUL A was able to record his combat performance and give the designer, Cassius Starwind, enough data to complete the project with a new Mustang frame hastily sent to the ship he'd been reassigned to in one of Fairchild's petty bursts of jealousy. He was a humble man, and despite his hard work not one of his machines bore a suitable name for a Bucephalus designer, so I suggested he name this one the Percheron. It is, after all, a superb workhorse well capable of war. Neither of us thought it would be his last.” The Colonel deactivates his PC with a sigh.

“Starwind, sir?” That didn't escape you.

The Colonel smiles sadly, “Yes. I'd wanted him on board the Jaburo when it went to secure the freedom of a certain SOUL test pilot who turned out to already be right where she wanted to be. I'd hoped he could speak with his brother, convince him to ally himself with us. He could have given us the whole damned Belt if Fairchild and fate hadn't intervened.” He claps you on the shoulder, “You're an excellent listener, Lieutenant. Thank you for putting up with my rambling.”

“It comes with the job, sir.” You reply.

He smiles wryly, “Dry humor, I like it. Good luck out there today, soldier.” You salute each other.

[Continued]
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>>1089626

It would be heresy if it didn't. The S-Delphinius is still the S-Delphinius, it's just that before it didn't have those cool back-mounted thruster nacelles. I'll be sure to use a pic that shows them off in a post or two.
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>>1089632
so moe has one of the last thing our bro ever made? cool, and somewhat fitting
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>>1089611
>>1089632
Oh shit, Brother's legacy mech is the Jehuty. But luckily it's not the 2.0 one.
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>>1089657
We have to capture it now, can't let our brother masterpiece sit in the hands of a Jovian
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>>1089669

But Roarke is a Jovian.
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>>1089669
no.
he was a jovian, he died a jovian.
as log as the jovian that sit's in it is a good guy . (i have know idea who the fuck that guy is) then he can use it and cherish it as it rips though avalon
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Alright, nearly all the Contenders have songs now.

Alexander: Close Game Life from the SRW OST
Victor: Ain't No Rest For the Wicked by Cage The Elephant
Inari: I Love Rock n'Roll by Joan Jett
Maxwell: Can't Touch This by MC Hammer
HUNK: Hunk's Theme from the Resident Evil OST
Kathrine: Somebody to Love by Queen (?)
Akai: Cherry Bomb by The Runaways (?)
Michael: Kickstart my Heart by Motley Crue
Gareth: Propulsion Overdrive by Dynatron
Mai: Blitzkrieg by Audiomachine
McClintock:
Finn:
Daryl:
Robert:
Wyatt:
Walter:
Marcianna:

>>1089574
BTW Inari is Jovian.
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>>1089675
Soon to be a... Eisentorian? Eisentorite?
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>>1089669
I honestly want to team up with it and kill the first ma-waaait. He just said Cabot. We just got CONFIRMATION! Not in character mind you, but ohhh boy, fun times will be had!
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>>1089675
HE IS A FREE MAN OF THE BELT! HE IS A Um...
what do we call ourselves, ethnicity wise when we become independent?
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>>1089675
But its not us so its in the wrong hands

>>1089683
I know its great to finally solidly know who did it
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>>1089669

He did build it for the company. Its legit fair and square.

i think what we instead want to do is ask for the design data for the mech he built.
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>>1089632
>>1089611
>Percheron

I actually considered that as a mech name. Good choice Wong.
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Also, behold the completed S-Delphinius. It may seem like a small change, less than glamorous...but that's 40 CP to create THE most weight-efficient Jovian mech ever, supplanting Red Siren's Archen.

S-Delphinius

Medium Weight Torso: C/S/K 12, 6 tons
Medium Weight Head: C/S/K 6, 3 tons
Light Heavy Left Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Light Heavy Right Arm: C/S/K 8, 3.5 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Weight Left Leg: C/S/K 7, 3 tons
Medium Weight Right Leg: C/S/K 7, 3 tons

Armor: Officer's Light Heavy (7 SP, 10.5 CP, 3.5 tons) on all locations, does not ablate from damage caused by attacks dealing less than 4 Kills

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Advanced Sensor Package (Head): 10 CP, 2 Spaces

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Torso Storage Module (1 CP, 1 Space), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Weapons Cross Linkage (Repeating Beam Cannons 2 CP), Deluxe Anti-Theft Lock (0.4 CP), Stereo (0.1 CP)

Armament:
[Left Arm-Mounted] Amos Custom Hero Active Shield: DA 0, SP 12 (does not ablate from damage caused by attacks dealing less than 8 kills), 67 CP, 1 Space, 6 tons
[Left Arm-Mounted] Amos Repeating Beam Cannon x2 (stats show an individual beam cannon): Range 550m, WA +1, 8K, BV 3, Fragile (only 1 Kill of structure), 34.5 CP, 3 Spaces, 0.5 tons
[Right Handheld] Amos Custom Beam Lance: WA+2, 12K (only 2K of structure), EMW (treats SP as 4 less than usual), Quick, 41 CP, 8 Spaces, 1 ton
[Right Arm-Mounted] Amos Tactical Missile Array: Range 550m, WA +3, 10K (7K of structure), Fuse (Missiles can be set on a timer or detonated remotely), 10 Missiles, 29.5 CP, 7 Spaces, 3.5 tons

Thrusters & Speed: 5 per leg, 7 in the torso, 3 in the head, 1 per arm, moves 500 meters per turn in flight or can run 200m. 22 CP
Total Weight: 59 tons, 39 after 40 CP of Weight Efficiency
Total Cost: 335 CP
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>>1089677
here's marciana's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DfzxdyfRO4
I figured since I used a jrpg character as a base for her I'd just use music from one.
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>>1089698
We're still a pirate stealing high class mechs to dissect is our passion
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>>1089676
He's awesome. One of the gundam pilots asks him how many men have died for him.
Triez lists an exact number, starts listing them by name, then calls his secretary for an update.
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>>1089713

As you can see, it's got powerful back-mounted verniers along with a complex set of additional verniers on the shoulders, giving the pilot maximum control and making it as maneuverable as a Bluegill of Pumpkinseed.
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>>1089721
Thunder, what's Finn's theme?
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>>1089713
It's.. beautiful. Strong in every field and yet as light as a Pumpkinseed. Hector and the cats are going to be shitting themselves.
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>>1089713
How long before simplified versions of this become the next Jovian line mech as the Pumkinseed 3.

>>1089721

If we can steal the data by just asking for it, citing personal reasons, it'll be the simplest job ever.
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>>1089739

That's tough to say because, really, it's an unsimplified version of the Pumpkinseed II itself.

>>1089730

Don't pester people for themes, if they don't volunteer one then let them be.
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>>1089713

>Medium weight mecha
>officers light heavy armour
>173 cp worth of weapons
> -3 MV

Ok, that is just plain unfair. I'm almost feeling sorry for Hector and the other Avalonians.

Almost, partially because they are veggie-worshippers, and partially because i know who's going to get volunteerd to duel sir Ford and his paladin.
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>>1089739
Ya but then we have to spend resources we don't have to build it or parts of it, for the most part its cheaper to just steal it

>>1089730
Doesn't have one. He prays to his gods while fighting in a language he had to learn and translate himself, so it entirely wrong and makes no sense.
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The S-Squilla and S-Pyxicephalus are rather comical in flight, but then, anything would be compared to the S-Delphinius. True to its name, it dances in the air like a dolphin above the waves. You can feel Irina's love and pride in the controls, and it's amazingly nostalgic how it handles. Despite its size, it's identical to flying your favored Pumpkinseed II. You can't imagine any other SOUL machine moving like this, it has something beyond design, beyond artifice, it's a work of art as unique as any Paladin. You're actually sad when you confirm its functionality and have to mount up on a Manta for the long haul, you could ride the S-Delphinius on its own all day. For most of your career, you've viewed your succession of line mecha as tools, valuable but disposable...but this is different, this is your ride, and the only mech you will ever need. The laser-drawn pinup of Irina is on the inside of the shield where only you can see it, like a good-luck charm.

You launch by the cold grey light of dawn, a flight of lesser mecha like starlings at your back, Mantas filling the air. You soar over the fields and above the trees as the sun climbs higher in the sky, casting fingers of radiance through the mist.

“All Squads, this is Flight Leader, I've spotted the Great Zann Dam. Drop to minimal altitude to avoid AA fire and proceed at full speed. We're not going to escape their radar, just hit them hard and hit them fast. Try not to clip the trees.” You joke as the huge, grey wall of the dam looms up in your view.

“Leader Squad, this is Squad Two. No hostiles yet.” Nedermeyer's perky voice chirps over the comms, “Even the birds aren't running from us.”

“We're the good guys, Squad Two, of course they-” You look down, and that's when the other shoe drops. The trees are full of birds. That's not unusual. Despite all of the winged lizards birds of all sizes, shapes, and colors manage to hold their own throughout Qu'lir. You're so used to them cooing and chirping and clucking in their usual nonsensically communal way that it's become background noise. Only these aren't doing any of that. From every tree, countless beady black eyes are staring up at you in silence. You only have a moment to realize how creepy that is before they all take flight at once, attacking your mech like airborne piranhas, burning up in the thruster jets and pecking impotently at your armor, clogging your sensor screens. You have a good view of the long, white fingerlets, slender as fishbones, poking up from their tiny spines.

>[Roll 1d10+14, Reflexes+Mecha Pilot]
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>>1089713
>>1089729

Wait, so you fluffed the weight efficiency as Verniers?
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>>1089773
Why not.

It was designed by a starwind.

If we're going to build our brother's final masterpiece, it should be built by a starwind's hands, not some grubby megacorp wage thief.
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Rolled 7 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1089774
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1089774
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Rolled 10 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1089774
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Rolled 2 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1089774
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>>1089781

Yes. Yes I have. I like verniers in concept, I don't like them multiplying a mech's cost, and past 200 CP or so Weight Efficiency is just flat-out superior in every way but fluff.

At last you have been given a Vernier-based mech.
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>>1089774
Ah, I see Cain Lab's birds from Maverick Hunter Quest and the Crows from Persona Quest are making a cameo.
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Rolled 9 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1089774
What was that really shitty movie about environmental protection where the main characters fought off birds with plastic coat hangers and the birds would kamikaze people while making plane sounds and literally blow up?
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>>1089806
>Crows from Persona Quest
They aren't anywhere near as deadly I pray for Amos's sake they aren't

>>1089807
Was it Flu bird Horror?
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>>1089798
Fair enough.

Of course, now you can add Verniers on top of the Weight Efficiency.
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Rolled 4 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1089774
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>>1089807
Birdemic: Shock and Terror
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>>1089806
>>1089816
Which Persona Quest was this?
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>>1089759
Could be worse, they could be fighting Stern
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>>1089825
Persona 2129

A murder of crows ambush the MC and his friend. They barely make it out alive.
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>>1089822
Yeah that's it. God that movie was so bad. I can't even believe they released it.
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>>1089829
You say that, but Sausage Party is a thing.
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>>1089835
Did you not see the gif? That was seriously in the movie. At least Sausage Party is sort of self-aware.
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>>1089680
i somehow didn't see this
Eisentorian is good
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>>1089838
Being self aware and still making shit does not make it less shit. See with the gif, it's the cheap early cgi shit that some people try back then. But this? This is recent and should know better.
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>>1089829
Thing is the actors don't really see the cgi effects before the shooting is done and won't see them till the viewing most times. Granted they should know its shit from the script but most people would take paycheck and exposure. The directors and producers just hope it'll hit big and get them money and if the cgi makes the movie look like shit they have an out since they can't be blamed for the poor cgi.
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>>1089852
Birdemic came out in 2010
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>>1089856
>>1089829
Ya'll know it was an indie film, right? Their budget was less than 10,000 dollars. In this case, the director, producer and the writer were all the same man trying to make his (shitty) vision come true.
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>>1089871
Thats insanely little for even an indie film, he shouldn't have attempted something that complicated and reliant on special effects until after he moved up and ladder and could get real funding.
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“Hostiles, drop Mantas and get clear!” You yell, although you feel a little bit silly describing these as hostiles, most of them eat seeds, nuts, or bugs. The largest you see is a condor or two. You ditch your Manta, knowing its autopilot will find a safe spot to land. The birds continue attacking it, as if trying to figure out whether or not it has a pilot. As for the S-Delphinius, well, you'll show them who you are. You feather-up right side thrust with your mech's limbs drawn tight to its body, making it spiral as it soars through the air, the spike capping your mech's head spinning like a drill. The thruster jets and a fishtailing wave of your lance kill entire swathes of them, and you break from the flock. Still, you see more than one mech clip the trees with its Manta, and one Pumpkinseed I Sniper with an Iskander rifle takes a rather nasty dent to the head from getting thrown into the tree cover.

“Disperse them!” You order, “Swords only, no blue-on-blue!” Thankfully, the spearhead of your formation is made up of Pumpkinseed IIs, and their plasma rapiers tear lines of flesh and feathers out of the flock.

“Hang on, Flight Leader. I've got this. Here comes the shuttlebus!” The S-Pyxicephalus activates its shield, and fires its thrusters at max, soaring loops around your formation. Like one gigantic windshield, birds smack off the softly glowing barrier and fall lifeless to patter against the trees below.

“I'll never look at a nice chicken dinner the same way again.” Simon says sadly.

“I don't know, I think these deserved to be fried.” Garret quips, the last of the birds bouncing off the golden bubble of his enveloping shield, “I can't believe I complained a little about getting this instead of the beam sweepers. It's like being a god.”

[Continued]
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>>1089828

There are a lot of things that just aren't as bad when you're in a mech, like the child soldiers on 16-Psyche or these birds.

>>1089829

You say that, but Miss Sloane is a thing.
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>>1089888
Yeah! Fuck you nature! Ain't the boss of me!
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>>1089906
>suddenly mega-fauna
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Well the Avalonians know we're coming now
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>>1089905
It can't be that bad... can it?
It looked like the typical SJW bait garbage. How bad is it really?
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>>1089683
How long until we get a chance to bury that bitch?
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>>1089948
Could make that a requirement for good negotiations with the Jovians. 'you want to be my buddy? Give me my brother's killer.'
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>>1089943

It's one of a series of movies and events in long-running shows that I believe were intended to "prep" the public for Hillary Clinton and her policies on the expectation that she'd win the presidency.
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>>1089948
>Front of suit torn
>Modesty only retained by strategically placed hair
I can't tell if it's supposed to be sad or arousing
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>>1089948
Hopefully Fairchild will bring her to the Tourney. Would be a good chance to hopefully have someone id her

>>1089960
Since we have no proof of who did it they would just send some nobody
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>>1089960
Far to easy a sell in the case of the jovians.

We need to draw it out abit and have that as a deal sweetener rather than just forming an alliance based off that.
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“Don't start getting visions of Olympus yet.” You warn them, “All squads, enveloping posture, just like we planned. Hit them hard, hit them fast, subtlety is for Bettas.”

Your flight breaks into two, poised to sweep the top of the dam with fire. You and your wingmen have the side over the artificial lake the dam is holding back.

“Flight Leader, this is Squad Two. We've got confirmed SAM sites on the top of the dam. Heavy missiles, but...” Nedermeyer's voice sounds puzzled, “They're not automated, they've got the old models refurbished for heavier missiles, but there's no one manning them.”

She sends you a picture. The mounts are pretty old, but even though the long, steel-grey missiles racked in them are of an unfamiliar make they're clearly designed for anti-mech use, and at least as strong as the ones in your own shoulder launcher. They'd be a threat to the SOUL mecha, and could easily bring down the lighter ones, but the stations for infantrymen to aim and fire them are empty. You check your ASP screen for life signs, and your blood runs cold. Huge, serpentine tendrils, as thick as tree trunks, are creating ripples beneath the waters of the dam as they move towards you. With your old mech, you wouldn't even have seen them, and according to your sensors they're not warm-blooded so they aren't putting off heat. You can see their tapered tips rising towards the surface, but not the other end, giving the impression of tentacles or gigantic roots rather than some kind of tremendous eels, “Squad, pull up, pull up!” You call out, “It's in the water! Something's in the damned water!”

>[Initiative, 1d10+7]
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Rolled 6 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1089969
Add two luck, we need to get the drop on them
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>>1089963
I looked at the Muv-Luv series for all of 5 minutes a couple weeks ago (thanks Wong) and can say with certainty it's supposed to be "sadly arousing." It seems like every major plot point I read tried its best to go for that.
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Rolled 2 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1089969
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Rolled 7 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1089969
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>>1089969
>It's in the water! Something's in the damned water
well i guess we get to see what's in the deep
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Rolled 7 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1089969
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>>1089963

I know in the anime she literally has a mech-scale knife split her from crotch to collarbone.

>>1089962

As you can see, I accidentally posted my picture too early and also didn't quite give enough detail. High-ish budget for a movie without special effects, bitchy SJW nonsense plot about guns being evil and the NRA spiking babies on their bayonets to roast them with the heat of the 3000000 rounds of exploding child-seeking hollowpoint napalm-filled ammunition their Bushmaster AR Murderpaloozarifles fire per nanosecond.
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>>1089979

The most hilarious part is that sad little "Oh I'm hurt pity me" smile she has when she ranks pretty high on the evil mecha bitches chart.
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>>1089963
In the game, it's actually pretty sad.

In this story, it'll likely be satisfying.

Cabot is really hateable, whereas the character she's based off of is pretty tragic. Now there's a funny thought, if Cabot turns out to have a similar backstory to Beatrix, but I seriously doubt that's happening.
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>>1089991
is she some kind of super person or something?
how is she alive after that?
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>>1089991
Ya those movies are giant loads of bullshit, we don't spear babies that's completely unethical. I don't know why they can't just be honest and use toddlers like real life.
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Rolled 8 + 4 (1d10 + 4)

>>1089977

Oh, right.
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>>1089969
Man, the bio-engineered weaponry is starting to give me the willies.
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>>1090013
Agile it is not, beat it even without the luck. Still, only 4 agility. Thats a worrying sign.
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>>1089991
>using babies
They seriously think that? Everyone knows that with all the extra fat they have it'll ruin your AR15000000-Nugget Minigun. You have to use pre-pubescents.
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And feed me 1d10+14s. Feels good to roll 1d10+14s again, doesn't it?
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Rolled 4 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090039
1 luck on this.
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090039
that it does. Rolling.
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>>1090004

No, this kills the Beatrix.
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090039
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Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090039
Rollin
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>>1089943
>Miss Sloane
Well it's about a high-profile lobbyist who is in it to win it, somehow mysterious develops an aversion to lobbying for guns. I'm all for gun control but the movie takes the award for cringiest bullshit of the year
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Rolled 8, 5 = 13 (2d10)

>>1090045
>>1090048

+14

Yes, these numbers and what was rolled for initiative are correct.
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Rolled 8 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090039
Meh.
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>>1090057
>lobbyist
>conscious
They should have know they could only pick one.
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090039
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Rolled 5, 9 = 14 (2d10)

>>1090052
>>1090055
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Rolled 8 + 7 (1d10 + 7)

>>1089969
Rollan

>>1090004
High pain tolerance. She lives long enough to insult the hero with her final breath in the anime.

>>1089996
Yeah, it was kinda weird what they did in the anime, like they couldn't decide what they wanted to do with her death.

Also, good representation of what you're talking about in your spoiler here >>1089991.

maybe you could use it in the future, but I'd hope for something more personal for the final fight with her
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More dice please.
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>>1090082
Oh I hope everyone else is firing at the giant tentacles. We do not want that thing sticking around.
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>>1090091
jesus christ
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Rolled 10 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090093
Space sushi soon
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>>1090093
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>>1090097
Yeah, MC don't fuck around.
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>>1090093
DICE FOR THE DICE TOWER
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090093
more dice
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Rolled 10, 5, 5, 7 = 27 (4d10)

>>1090068
>>1090081
>>1090099
>>1090102

+14

>>1090097

She earned it. The only reason she's slightly sympathetic is that other people earned it just as much.
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>>1090123
Slippery bastard, and those high stats are worrying me. Where is our fire support?
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>>1090123
>She earned it. The only reason she's slightly sympathetic is that other people earned it just as much.

If we're talking about the anime, sure. If we're talking about the VN, not really. One of the VN routes even has her throwing away her chance at victory and disobeying stasi command to uphold her bargain and save the 666th (she ended up losing too many of her soldiers in the rescue). She's even the main love interest in the prequel story, so she's a little more complicated in the VN, but I love (or love to hate) both versions for different reasons, and I think your spin on Bethany is pretty good too.
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You don't like the look of...whatever that is. On the other hand, you're the Flight Leader, and you're piloting a SOUL mech. Some commanders would say, perhaps rightly, that this makes your life more valuable and that you should stay back and not try to keep whatever this thing is focused on you. That your subordinates have a responsibility to shield you, and not the other way around.

That thought doesn't cross your mind for an instant. The S-Delphinius drops like an avenging angel towards the tentacles as they rise up out of the water. They're smooth, rounded, devoid of the suckers you see on an octopus' arms. They really do remind you of pale, white roots. As you see that they branch off into smaller tendrils along their length, that impression becomes even more clear. You decide to prune them a bit with your lance.

One tentacle gets sliced nearly apart, but the others react in a way you've never seen a plant react before, or even some primitive animal like a jellyfish. They whip away from your strikes, twisting and jerking. They seem clumsy, but somehow skillful, those aren't blind swings or feral aggression, it's reading your moves and fighting very proficiently.

“Open fire.” You order, although already bolts of plasma are raising streaks of mist from the lake's surface. Four tentacles, one of them leaking a thick, sticky sap from your opening slash, rise up on all sides of you. One swings first, angling sideways and curling in a way you weren't expecting, forcing you to catch it on your shield (NO DAMAGE!), but now that you know what they're about you manage to dodge the others.

>[More 1d10+14s!]
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090168
I CAN FEEL THE DICE OVERTAKING ME
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Rolled 2 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090168
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Rolled 2 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090168
>NO DAMAGE!
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090168
Fire a missile into where the body of this thing should be. Add 1 luck
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090168
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>>1090178
>>1090182
>>1090184
>>1090186
>>1090190
The dice aren't agreeing with us today.
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Rolled 2, 9, 8, 4 = 23 (4d10)

>>1090178
>>1090182
>>1090184
>>1090186
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>>1090191
More like they decided to do a 180.
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Rolled 7, 1, 6, 2, 4, 3, 6, 7 = 36 (8d10)

>>1090191
Time to try and reset them
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Rolled 4 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090168
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>>1090191
+14
we are ok
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>>1090203
A crit's +5 over a roll, right?
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>>1090192
With our lance, a +2 cuts right through 2 of them if those are all attacks. Otherwise one is auto parried and the other dodged.
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>>1090168
Yeah, now I'm really creeped out. Can we radio Command and tell them what's going on? Hopefully there are records of what this thing is.
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>>1090208
mmmmm
yes?
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>>1090217
Then wouldn't the two middle rolls be crits for the monster?
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>>1090218
That's if these are all attacks. Looks like we get two swings, then a dodge of two. So We hit once, they hit our shield, but Thunderbird's plus one makes it a successful dodge.
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Rolled 4, 4 = 8 (2d10)

>>1090190
>>1090199
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>>1090229

Whoops, rolled one too many. Ah well, I'll let you keep that one. More 1d10+14s please!
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Rolled 2 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090229
Nice. We either dodged the hits or smacked him silly.>>1090237
Alright.
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090237
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Rolled 9 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090237
The Dice must flow
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Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090237
I wonder what happened to the dice we throw
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Rolled 1 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090237
Fucking space kraken too op
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090237
Do we require some more dice?
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Rolled 1 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1090168
This is the first time I see a white shoggoth...
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Rolled 1, 3, 3 = 7 (3d10)

>>1090242
>>1090252
>>1090256
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Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>1090257
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You level your left arm and fire your twin-linked beam rifle, severing the damaged tentacle cleanly. Nearby, you see Simon and Garret fighting their own tentacle clusters. The S-Squilla grabs one by the tip, and flies straight up, pulling up and up on the tentacle as if trying to expose whatever the main body is...but all that comes into sensor range is more tentacle. Garret fires wildly, his beams chewing bits of vegetable off his adversaries.

You fire another shot that misses as a tentacle bunches up, coiling like a serpent and thrusting its tip forward like a battering ram. The impact on your shield sends you flying through the air, but you right yourself easily, re-angling just in time to avoid a follow-up strike. The third remaining tentacle of the cluster assaulting you comes as a surprise, but Irina's engineering saves you, you spin out of the way as it smacks heavily down against the water, raising waves.

“F-Flight Leader!” There's a panicked voice, and you see a Pumpkinseed that got a little too close to the water struggling against the tentacle wrapped around its leg and torso all the way up to its throat. It struggles to cut the tendril off with its folding arm-blade, but despite the gashes it leaves it can't find a groove long enough to cut the thing cleanly, “Not like this! Not like this!” It struggles, but you can see the smaller mech's armor deforming and its gut bulging as the tentacle begins to twist and crush it.

Almost forgetting about your own opponents, you aim your missile launcher...and then you notice something else strange on your instrument screen. There's a single unit high above cloud cover. It's broadcasting a Martian IFF, which is strange because the Scimitars and Tulwars in your force can't use Mantas and are therefore performing starship escort.

A narrow, brilliantly pink beam reaches down from the heavens, and slices back and forth through the tentacle, severing it. The damaged Pumpkinseed nearly goes down with it, but a Pumpkinseed II, likely an officer's model, catches hold of it.

“Everyone o~kay?” A chipper, feminine voice echoes over your comm channels.

“Unknown Martian unit, please identify.” You request. Your beam lance drills through the tentacle that tries to strike at you, and you fire thrusters to rip it in half nearly to the waterline, skimming low and slicing through one of the remaining ones near its base.

“I'm...” You hear her hesitate, “Um. Ah...I'm...I'm the legendary masked hero of justice, Dejah Thoris of Mars! Uwahaha!” At least her laughter is a lot more confident than her response.

For a moment, there's complete silence, except for the one last tentacle in your immediate vicinity, which you adroitly dodge. Then Garret speaks, “I think I've heard of her.”

[Continued]
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>>1090335
>legendary masked hero of justice, Dejah Thoris of Mars
oh god my side's why!!!
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>>1090335
Here comes the snow!
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>For a moment, there's complete silence, except for the one last tentacle in your immediate vicinity, which you adroitly dodge. Then Garret speaks, “I think I've heard of her.”
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>>1090335
So whos that.

My brains not working today.
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>>1090353
Moe's girlfriend using Fatima's alter ego
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>>1090356
Oh.

Ohhhhh. damn. Thanks mate.
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>>>1090353

It's the princess from the John Carter novels, which is why everyone is laughing it up right now.
But it was also Fatima's secret identity in her younger years, so it actually makes sense in the setting too.
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>>1090360
No problem
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>>1090356
she's gonna be so mad!
i cant wait for the high born indignation!
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>>1090356

And for some reason I can't find the thread where she told Roarke the story behind that nickname. I remember it, of course, but some of the details are key.
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>>1090370
Here you go Wong, its a couple of posts in http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/49103567/
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>>1090370

I think it was the one just after we fought the paladin. She told us the story after she woke up. So that would be quest 46. If not, then it's 34.
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>>1090379
>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/49103567/

Thank you, I was looking in all the wrong threads.
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>>1090412
No problem
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“Yeah, me too.” Nedermeyer comments from where she's sweeping the top of the dam for traps and to make sure those SAMs really are unmanned.

“So have I!” Another pilot confirms, “She's a mysterious Martian woman who appears in times of danger and wipes out the enemy with vicious precision.”

“I heard she's a legendary beauty, who hides her face so her enemies won't be stunned by her looks and deny her the joy of battle.” Still another pilot confirms.

“Don't be ridiculous, beautiful women don't hide their faces. She's probably a bit, you know...heavy.” Another unwisely points out, making a sort of round-figured gesture with his Palomino II's hands.

Another shot of the narrow pink laser goes right between that pilot's legs, missing the Palomino's crotch by mere meters, “That's not true! I'm cute!” The Martian jet waggles back and forth indignantly as it dips below the clouds, revealing a pink-and-white paint scheme, powerful dual thruster clusters, and swept-forward wings, “I'm very cute!” You hear her clear her throat, “Uh, I...I mean HOW DARE YOU INFIDEL SON OF A CAMEL SPIDER! VIRULENT PIG-HOUND! NAIL-CHEWING DISHEVELED BADGER! YOUR MOTHER WOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR MANNERS!”

Is...is she trying to make her voice sound older? Well, you suppose it's got to be hard being a prodigy.

“I'm sorry!” The UJCIDF pilot wails, “I'm sure you're cute! I'm absolutely positive you're cute!”

[Continued]
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>>1090438
que moe entering
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>>1090438
..what are the odds she took a spare laser cannon from the Tarrasque and mounted it on her fighter?
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>>1090457
"inhales"
super lasssseeeeerrrrrrrrrrrsssssssssss.......
god do i love the big zam.
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>>1090335
We didn't even get to fight the Avalonians yet and we already have an almost destroyed Pumpkinseed....
...I'm hoping that the Avalonians get out soon, or these noobs will probably die by traps even before combat.
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>>1090457
I dunno. She might have actually recreated a martian aerospace fighter she uses on mars.

All that talk about what a proper martian muslim waifu needs to be able to do.
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>>1090469
i fucking love mars.
even if it needs to stop forcing people to convert to a different religion.
then it be perfect.
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>>1090478
No, the thing you love is Hakim's stance on wifes, and it might not survive his death.

I don't hate them, but their political structure may have even more problems than ours... So forced conversion is far from being their only problem.

I'm worried about how this will develop if Hakim dies without heirs...
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>>1090457
Someone stated the Mobius mod Zero in Mekton, so she might be using that.
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>>1090478
Can't. Getting converts is a core tenet of Islam
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>>1090500
They did? Do you have a link to it?
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>>1090507
Called the Tulwar Mod Zero http://pastebin.com/ySi3QU1J
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>>1090515
Thanks man.
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>>1090497
i don't care about that at all
honestly,as long as they at least respect there fellow spouse's i'm okay. it's kinda pragmatic as well. probably 50 billion? people got nearly wiped out to like 10 billion people.
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>>1090502

Evangelising and forcibly converting someone are two very different things.

Hell, the Jehova's witnesses are supposed to go out and convert as many as they can, and the worst you get from them is milld annoyancewhen they bother you on sunday morning.
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>>1090527
Thing is as wong said, theres others on mars intending to push for that when hakim dies.

This is a time bomb waiting to happen.
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>>1090537
that suck's i kinda wanted them as a ally of the belt. maby we can be a ally, and have fa keep the (crazier then normal) zealot's from killing every one or converting them by force
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>>1090537
Realistically space crusades will happen eventually. Just gotta make sure Avalon's dealt with and the Greenmen are all dead before this happens.
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“Ascend one klick and commence saturation fire.” You order, and despite the chatter your people obey, “S-Squilla, you're on weedwhacker duty. Anything that reaches above 500m, you rip it apart.”

“Roger, Flight Leader.” Simon replies, flying down and severing a grasping tendril with a scythe-armed blow.

As for you, you open your missile launcher and begin unloading it. Your Manta's mounted rocket launcher has been replaced with a couple of reloads for it, and this is worth spending them on. You throw the missiles, scattering them in a circle and letting them fall, using your mech's instruments to calculate the rate of drop, adjusting for slowdown when they hit the water, and setting a timer to go off when they're near the bottom of the lake. Thankfully, you know how deep the water is, you studied your target, “Thank you for your help, masked pilot. May I ask why you're here?”

“Of course you may! Naturally, I am a champion of justice...but also a heroine of love! Love is in danger, so I am here with my Misericorde to save the day!” She responds. You're pretty sure that this Misericorde is actually a highly customized Tulwar, but you hold your tongue and let her talk, “You're Mister Wedge, right? This is about your girlfriend! Her sister is getting married, and I'm here to invite you to the wedding. You owe me for saving your subordinate!” She cuts you off before you respond, “So you have to come, and you have to bring her too! If you don't, her sister will cry and be sad and that will be awful for everyone! You owe me!” She repeats insistently, “Besides, family is important, if she doesn't go she'll regret it forever and because you're her boyfriend you'll be the one that has to deal with it!”

You consider her words as you go through your instruments, watching the bloom of your bombs going off and studying where the pressure and heat waves are interrupted by the network of tendrils...and that's what it is, a network, like roots dug into the ground with certain roots lifting up to try and fight your troops off. Rather a small number of roots now, as the beam cannon fire, railgun shots, and rockets tear them apart. The base of the structure seems to be coming from under the dam itself. You also notice a number of hidden entrances into the dam structure along its topside. It's convenient having an ASP.

>[Continue mission]
>[Abort mission]

"Hey! Don't ignore me! You know what I'm talking about, right? The wedding on Au-" Dejah Thoris bulls onward.

"Hold on!" You protest.

ALRIGHT ALRIGHT VOTE ON THIS TOO, VOTE ON BOTH BEFORE SHE REVEALS WHO IRINA'S SISTER IS TO THE ENTIRE FLIGHT!

>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]
>[Do not agree to Rosita's wedding]
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>>1090550
i mean... if a crusade is going to happen.... and avalon already calls them saracens....
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>>1090554
>You also notice a number of hidden entrances into the dam structure along its topside. It's convenient having an ASP.

Implication being that theres people there? Does the delphinius have sensors enough to pierce through the concrete and scan for lifeforms inside?
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>>1090554
>[Continue mission]
Quit when it's just getting good? No sir!
>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]
Family is indeed important.
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>>1090554
>>[Abort mission]
I beleive the dam is now under controls of the Tentacle faction
>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]
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>>1090554
>>[Continue mission]
>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]
drop a depth charge on the giant tentacle monster!
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>>1090554
>[Call the guys with Power Armor?]
This is some Lovecraft shit right now.
>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]
It seems like an Amos thing to do, he loves his family.

>>1090561
I think the implication is that this thing is growing inside the dam.
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>>1090550

Honestly, the war with Avalon might be what's keeping all this tension under wraps. As long as they have an enemy to fight against, an enemy led by aa filthy Green Man, an enemy that even attacked Mars itself, everyone can work together towards the greater goal of beating that enemy. But when Avalon is defeated, all that righteous fury and zealotry has no place to go anymore, and so these extreme factions of Mars can turn two ways: outward, to the other inhabitants of the solar system and other outlying systems, or inward to their own government, plotting and scheming so that when Hakim finally dies, the "right"people end up on top.

The alliance with the Jovians probably works the same way. Once Avallon is beaten, there are very few reasons left for the two to work together, and a lot of things to squabble over (including the Belt).
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>>1090554

>[Continue mission]
>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]

So who came up with this plan anyways? Is this the alternative to actually kidnapping Irina?
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>>1090500

It's very cool, but no, this is a custom model. Similar in many respects, but its loadout centers around a large pod-mounted laser and missile launchers.
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>>1090561
>>1090567
Wait no, Amos should have noticed all the entrances.
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>>1090554
>[Continue mission]
Amos follows orders
>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]

>>1090568
And we'll need to play both sides to keep them from trying to take over the belt. But regardless war will eventually come and we need to be ready for it with extremely well trained troops, high end mechs, and an extremely fortified belt.
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>>1090547
I hope so but islam especially is a much fragmented religion, not having a top figure like a pope. A rogue iman could very easily radicalise his flock and start shit.

I guess if Hakim establishes a ruling council of imans it might be possible to corral most of the martians but he shows no intention of doing so and such a body could be subverted anyways.

>>1090550

Perhaps but there must be some way to make them realise that conversion by force shouldnt be the way forward in space...

>>1090554
>>[Continue mission]

But cease saturation bombardment. Lets individually target the tendrils before we figure out what exactly we're dealing with.

Bursting the dam is going to wreck havoc here. We don't even know whats downstream.

>>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]
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>>1090554
>[Continue mission]
Best chance we got. Watcher in the Water notwithstanding.

>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]
Irina's throwing a child tantrum. She'll definitely regret if she couldn't go.
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>>1090561

You know that the so-called Kitty Kong was supposedly using this as a base from Garret's gambit with the PCs.
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>>1090578

Can we do a trace right now to see if any of those devices are currently in the dam?
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>>1090554
>>[Continue mission]
Going to get worse before it gets better. Garret, still got those trackers on the kitties? Might want to make sure they are still active.
Either way, gun team be ready, pull back if shit goes south. We do not want to get close to those things.

>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]
On the terms that we try and not end up as shroom food.
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>>1090554
>Abort mission

Blow the dam, and evacuate the area. This is more of a "battleship cannon"problem, not a "power armour" problem

> go to the wedding
Sure. get some R&R, eat some cake, would be nice. Can we bring the squad?
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>>1090576
Muslims have been doing this since the religion started. Its a problem with a core tenet of the religion itself. There isn't really a way to fix this problem.
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>>1090554
>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]
>[Continue mission]
"For the record, considering the situation if any other unidentified mecha decide to assist I and my men won't ask questions. And should some wrecked avalonian mecha go missing post battle, well things happen and I won't look into it."
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>>1090583
We can't afford to abandon this operation, our whole plan relies on us taking the dam so we can cripple ford's forces. Without it we're shit outta luck.
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>>1090554
>[Continue mission]
>[Agree to go to Rosita's wedding]
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>>1090584
And until a few years ago the Pope routinely prayed for the conversion of the Jews.

Romans 11:25-26a:

I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved.

Hell, there's a Shakespearean play that has a Jew convert to Christianity to avoid execution. Its presented as a good thing. Religion has undergone pretty seismic shifts, and very little is really unchangeable in the long run.
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>>1090598
But how many Christian extremists executing infidels and forcing conversations in the last 200 years? How many muslims do the same things even now and kept doing it well into when the nuclear war happened? And praying for them to convert isn't the same as chopping people's heads off for not converting.
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>>1090584
Not completely. There are moderate muslims willing and able to live and work with folks from other religions. My country is deep in SEA after all, this is what I live with. A modernised intepretation of islam can function in society without requiring the need to wage war of conversion. its really a matter of reigning in radicals and fundies which are shitting the bed for everyone.
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>>1090601
They did all that hundreds of years ago. Christianity's just gone through and went past it's violent period.
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>>1090611
Keyword hundreds of years ago, not still happening
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>>1090520
You should care, because even this can change the current situation and make space to changes that can end the current " respect there fellow spouse" paradigm.
So if you want it to continue, you have to worry about Mars future too.
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>>1090598
And its presented as a good thing by the catholic characters in the story, but the way it written comes off as it being fucked up. They force him into it by threatening to chop off his hand and taking all of his money.
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>>1090617
fuck
right
how do we steal a muslims will to convert people?
steal all his women and land?
let's go with that.
beside's if they go back to the old age way of treating women we would have to go to war
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“She'll be sad, and do you know who will be even sadder and make everyone else sad too? Re-” Dejah Thoris just does not stop, as relentless as an oncoming blizzard.

“Alright! Alright, we'll go!” Finally, for once, you yield, “It will be a nice break from all of this fighting anyway, if we're done here before the wedding, we'll go!”

“Hooray~ My cutiefluffylovekins is going to be so proud of me~!” The jet does a happy little loop, shooting down another pair of tentacles with missiles. The sheer volume of fire is sharply reducing the number of tentacles that can actually attack you. Even creepy things like this are no match for the might of Jovian firepower. “Thank you, sir! I-I mean, um, of course you agree. Yes. Very good. But if you try to take it back, I've got this whole conversation recorded and I'll never stop telling people what a liar you are! Farewell, noble Jovians! Now I must go, and return to my own people. Inshallah you will teach these Avalonians a proper lesson!” The jet banks upwards, its point aimed towards Qu'lir's sun, and flies away beyond the clouds.

“Huh, I guess she's going to meet up with the Martians, it was nice of her to fly ahead like that.” Garret comments, “No casualties is a good thing.”

“Hey, Amos, what was she talking about?” Simon asks.

“Nothing, Simon.” You reply, a bit grumpily. You're trying to be serious, this is a combat mission and you've never been in charge of such a large group before.

“Sir.” One of the pilots, a Sergeant going by the icon on your command screen, asks, “Should we fall back?”

“No. No plan ever goes exactly as you want it, not for the Avalonians and not for us. We're the advance force, we have to complete our part of the mission despite this setback. Cycle squads on patrol, shoot up anything that pokes out of the water and keep an eye out in case this...thing...tries something tricky. Scan the top of the dam for traps and commence landing procedures once a safe landing is confirmed. Those SAMs the enemy left behind might come in useful. The Suetonius, Cassim's Folly, and Cicero are en route. Once they arrive, we'll put together an assault force under my command and storm the dam.” You instruct.

“Flight Leader, what was that thing?” Nedermeyer asks, a bit hesitantly.

You sigh and shake your head, “Honestly, I don't know.”

[Continued]
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>>1090614
You were implying Christianity's different from Islam when it's really not. I'm not arguing that what the extremists are doing isn't shit, or that Christianity today isn't better than it was, but you can't just pretend Christianity's history is any better or different than Islam's.

I just hope the day Islam does get to the point Christianity has soon. It's fucking garbage now, and using it as an excuse to fuck kids or kill people is terrible.
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I'll be right back after a quick shower.
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>>1090645
They can't. Not without a universally recognized spiritual leader that can help interpret the Quran.
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>>1090671
>Spiritual leader
Sound like Rowboat Girlyman just found his next admin job.
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>>1090671
>Implying that Christianity has a universally recognized spiritual leader.
I mean, sure there's the pope, but the catholic church is usually dragged kicking and screaming by the Protestants.
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>>1090645
They are different. Plenty of things that are acceptable for a Muslim to do are heretical for a Christian to do. And at the time that Christianity was forcing conversions we're against pagans who would do the same thing to Christians and the Muslims who we're invading Spain and southern Europe trying to force everyone to convert.
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>>1090641
Right then, heavy shields, flame throwers, that gun Garret likes and enough power armor to make a Fallout game easy. No getting close to the things, keep some people on weed whacker duty, assume anyone in there is not having a good time. Watch out for white bumps, and if it tries that shit on you, hope there is a means to burn away the surrounding shroom and not you.
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>>1090671
Christians did it without one (you still do have the odd weirdo though). Catholics are the one with the pope.
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>>1090679
Because for the most part they wiped out the crazies just look up the Anabaptists and when they took over Münster
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>>1090677
I wasn't talking about tenants, I was talking about their actions. They killed and tortured people to convert. Why they did it doesn't matter, they did it.
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>>1090645
Christianity in general got kind of a bad rap in the West thanks to all the religious wars after the Protestant Reformation. The unprecedented destruction directly fed into the disillusionment and secularism of the Enlightenment.

So if you want to use Christianity as a basis, the Muslim world would have to implode into a orgy of death and destruction. Think shit like ISIS, except all over the Arabian world (which may happen in our lifetime thanks to environmental and social factors).
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>>1090687
And I didn't say they didn't, I said they stopped doing it a long time ago while the Muslims just keep right on going. And in universe kept going until the nuclear war happened. And the tenets of the religion do matter when your religion preaches that its holy to kill all infidels and force them to convert and treating women like shit is fine.
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>>1090678
>>1090641

I second this suggestion. If we mst go in there, give our disposable minions all the advantages they can get their hands on.
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>>1090688
I figured it would be more of a slow burning change as all the Muslim that realized there was point where people wouldn't put up with killing in the name of a god anymore and all the ones that didn't got killed or scared into stopping. There's no breaking point or great change in the average Christian like the Reformation since the everyday Muslim can read the Quran. Who knows though.
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>>1090693

They were actually getting there in the 70s 80s.

Then the region erupted in war and never stopped since.
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>>1090709
And if they did stop you would be right. But the wars happened because fundamentally Islam is not a peaceful religion. Its a religion that is a religion of war and has a history that's entirely about war and forcing conversion.
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>>1090693
I always wondered how that happened. At one point after the Western Roman Empire collapsed Islamic nations were basically the center of the world in terms of knowledge and learning, and then one day they just started wallowing in shit. Kinda sad.

>>1090704
*in the average Muslim
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>>1090700
Could probably bring some anti mech weaponry too if a tendril tries to mess with us. If that 14 keeps, then assuming the crew is all 16s, some luck, and missiles would help there. Portable barricades, a wall of beam, whatever we can do to prevent the thing from getting close. I am going to assume the thing has more kills than some ships while being a very bloated mess of green-man tech. 4 reflex but 10 melee.. bloody hell.
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>>1090714
Traditionally, they'd coerce you into converting through taxes, but unless you're a pagan, they couldn't do anything else to you once you became their subject. Hell, Hindus were declared "Children of the Book" by their Mughal rulers, and they aren't even an Abrahamic faith. Forced conversion is still a nono to modern Islam, which is why they'll just kill you instead.
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I am back, by the way, this post just ended up needing to be redone.
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>>1090678
>>1090700
>>1090726

Your concerns and advice are acknowledged, but anything you don't have you can't just walk back to Innsmouth and get, unless you want to wait for the starships to show up.
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I wonder if roarke will end up having a one on one conversation with hakim.

That'll be interesting.
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>>1090723
Pretty much because when the western empire fell all the european countries got fucked hard and had to restart their entire civilizations while dealing with Vikings and barbarians and muslims. So it took them centuries for them to get to the point where they we're stable enough that science could flourish. Islam on the other hand didn't have to deal with all that and was united under one sect (until the 800s when Shia started up) and then they took Constantinople which was loaded with technology and the knowledge of the ancients so they got a boost to their tech and stability letting them make quick progress and plenty of discoveries. But that only lasted so long and they couldn't rely on old knowledge so they pretty much stopped making significant progress and the Ottoman empire became a backwater after the Europeans knocked them back in the 16th century.

>>1090735
So either convert or be forced to pay extra taxes or die. Its still forcing people to convert just not saying it and finding a loophole.
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>>1090743
Hmmm.. might be too late for the survivors if there are any then. Well, as I said before, Garret should have the kitty tracker on him. If he kept it local, we should be alright in finding them. Just keep some on patrols and a exit route clear. If anything else, this is just as much a rescue mission as it is a capture mission.
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>>1090757

We have the tracker and didn't garret get a lot of their phone numbers as well.

We might be able to call one of them to try and see if we can extract survivors.
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>>1090757
>>1090770

You are assumming that this... thing attacked them as well. It is most likely some Green Man tech gone rogue, we cannot overlook the possibility that it is working with them, or possibly for them.
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>>1090775

Theres that but we do also have that spore infected raptor pack which means there could be a native biological entity down there.

Also if they did have a hand in this, we either find them dead by the pcs not responding, in need of an extraction (and thus information on what we're dealing with) or a very quick rebuffal when we actually call them so all should be made clear very quickly.
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>>1090770

Hm, why don't you guys vote on this?
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>>1090775
If it's rogue, then it will likely not help anyone. Avalonian or not. Feral creatures are not exactly known to communicate well, and this one seems too hard for miss four ears to handle. As is, I am going to assume it's going by base instincts on a higher scale than most since it's a war machine.
>>1090783
Alright, I'll go for it. Element of surprise is gone with all the missiles and laser fire. If they aren't fighting for their lives, they are already defending themselves.
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>>1090783

My idea is, first secure the outside of the dam, land the mecha, then call the kitty kong, asess how this affected them, and then send in the cannon fodder.
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>>1090748
More of a inability to accept the progress made by infidels and the subsequent fracture and formation of mordern day ME nations
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>>1090783
Call them and offer them one chance to surrender. If they don't they'll be treated as enemy combatants.
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>>1090783
Do it
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>>1090783
Give them a chance... Or at least check if they reply, as they can be already dead and if they are we can just wait for reinforcements/explosive/flamethrower and maybe Gas this thing.


Also, Wing, that option of delaying the tourney for more kestrels missions is still up? I'm kind of sad that we didn't got the chance to see the Captains in action.
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>>1090799
We can see them in action after the tourney with their new machines. Aside from connecting the dots on Cabot, training, money, and getting psyche up and running are priority.
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“No nonlethal rounds this time, Garret.” You say sadly to him over private comms, “Not unless there's a damned good reason.”

“I know.” He tells you mournfully, “If this is going the way I suspect, it might be a mercy.”

After the appropriate checks, you land, with patrolling mecha blasting away any remaining roots that twitch at you. You disembark, and salute the members of your strike team. Many of these pilots were picked for their rating in out-of-mech combat, and are all equipped with power armor to go with yours. You've taken the liberty of requesting, and receiving, a commander's helmet, slotting your PC into a groove along the cheek so that you can make calls and access the flight's commnet, “Hey, Garret, are the insurgents still here?” You ask.

He gets out his PC and fiddles with it, “Fuck, I hope not.” He brings up the holomap, and the contact icons pop up, “Fucking damn it all to hell furballs why didn't you fucking run?” He groans.

Simon adjusts the gauntlets on his power armor. It actually looks more intimidating than yours, with short, pyramidal spikes covering the chestplate, kneecaps, elbows, knuckles, and even a row of them on the toe of his boots, designed to add some extra hurt however he chooses to hit an enemy. “Don't let Marilyn hear you call them furballs.”

“I'll keep it in mind, but Marilyn wouldn't stay in a place like this.” Garret grunts, making sure his M-2 is properly secured. The Ma Deuce can't be fired from the shoulder, but it might come in handy in the right circumstances and with power armor it's not too much for him to carry alongside a more traditional sort of rifle, “She's too smart to buy into this insurgency bullshit anyway. No matter what Trevor thinks, the smart Qu'liri should know that we're the only ones who want them to stay free.”

You whistle, “Barbossa Squad, you're with us.” Just advancing as a mob is a stupid, stupid idea where guns are involved, it slows you down and, “Bogwhyte Squad, LaRouche squad, keep our exit clear. O'Neil Squad, Wo Squad...are those flamethrowers?”

Sergeant O'Neil and Corporal Shao both salute, “Yessir!” O'Neil informs you, “Daddy always said, fire is man's oldest friend.”

You nod, “Twelve soldiers in power armor should be enough for a clearing team with two blowtorches and a Garret's drummer. Remember, ascertain before you bring the pain.”

Shao snorts, “Sir, please never become a poet.” O'Neil elbows Shao, and Shao adds without a trace of chagrin, “It would be a great loss to the military sir.”

“Huehuehue.” Barbossa snickers, “I think it would hurt the Avalon plenty, no?”

“Not as much as your comedy, Miguel.” You inform him. He blows you a kiss from behind his gasmask, the cheeky bastard. “Garret, place a call to one of those girls.”

Every set of eyes in the clearing team focuses on you, “...Repeat that, sir?” Shao asks.

[Continued]
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>>1090802
Tourney seems to be the last arc, so the next one will have a time jump of 20 years and will seriously change their actual state...
It would be a shame if we didn't get to see how our new crews actually work and how they fare in missions before Gen 2... Understandable, but kinda sad.
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>>1090808

Wait, what? i thought the time skip was something for way down the line, not directly after the tournament.
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>>1090808
The tourney is not the last arc for season 1 Br. Considering the war is still going on, the Green Lady is a threat, and all the solidifying of the belt and pirating we need to do, there is still much to be done. What even gave you that idea in the first place?
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Anons we need to be very careful here. As far as we know there are spores on this planet. We have no idea if these soldiers have been spored and if they have been we're in deep shit
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>>1090816
I assume the PC has a video function. We just need to see their necks and spine. No white, and they are alright.
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>>1090821
That might be hard to see in a fire fight. And the greenmen were able to covertly spore people on Mars without the Martians knowing so they might be impossible to see.
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>>1090824
Yeah, if they had conventional means. By the looks of it, this type of fungi is the ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL type. It's got a big tell to it, and chances are if there was more than one type here, that makes invisible spores, then GG. We are already fucked by being so close to this place.
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“You're not hearing things. There's a chance despite all of this weirdness that they're still alive and holed up somewhere. Give them one chance to surrender, then we're coming in.” You look around at them, “You want the Qu'liri to treat us like liberators? Then we have to act like it. We're not here for religion, we're not here for conquest, we're here because the Qu'liri got done wrong and we're here to do right. We stop Ford, we stop this creepy Avalonian weirdness...” You point at the lake to illustrate, “...we free this planet and we go home. Say it with me! Jove bless the UJCIDF!”

“Jove bless the UJCIDF!” They chant.

“Justice and peace!” You raise your arm in the Jovian salute.

“Justice and peace!” They mirror the gesture.

“Avalon go home!” You make the sign of the fig towards the lake.

“Avalon go home!” They repeat it towards what's left of the white mycelium beneath the water. Shao adds, “And go fuck yourselves when you get there!”

The power-armored soldiers cheer.

Garret, meanwhile, places a call and puts it on speaker, “Let's see...what was this one's name? Missy? Hey, Missy, you there?”

The PC hums, it hums for almost a moment, and then, right when Garret is about to hang up...it connects.

“Missy?” Garret asks.

You hear a strange, eerie sound. Heavy breathing, rough and raspy, and a sound like fingertips scratching at the PC...then a wet, slobbery noise. Garret holds the PC farther away from his head in revulsion.

“Is she licking it?” Simon asks.

There's a screetchy, mrowling noise, and a sound of scuffling. There's a noise, a noise almost like words, ebbing in and out of audibility like the whispering of a sticky, languid sea against a rocky shore.

“I can't hear you, Missy. Come on, it's me, Garret. Remember? You said I had pretty hair?” Garret shakes the device.

“Nnnnnnnyyyyyyyy....” The sound rises into a warbling screech, “Nyyyyyyyyooooo....gogogogogo.”

“With all due respect, what the fuck is going on here, sir?” One of the enlisted asks you. You hold up a hand to shut him up.

“Missy?” Garret asks, “You don't sound so good. Are you alright?”

There's a sound of rough, hacking sobs, “GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO! GEHOUT! GEHEHEHEHEOOOOOOUT!” There's a sharp, metallic sound as the words fade, as if the PC is being slammed against something. Over and over again, you hear it, until at last there's a fizzling noise and the call goes dead.

[Continued]
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>>1090832
Honestly the Green Lady might have been sporing all of Avalon over the course of years. I mean all it would take would be multiple tours of major cities and she could have dropped tons of spores without people noticing or thinking anything of it
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>>1090836
Welp, time to try some of the others and if they dead too, it's time to start burning shit
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>>1090836

Huh. Shit damn cunt.

I think we need to consider tranqing and capturing at least one alive.

For the chance of seeing if the condition is treatable.
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>>1090836

Well, i think we can scratch "subtle mind control"of our list of problems. As well as "taking care of the prisoners".

So, now we know the situation is well and truly fucked inside, we just go in and kill anything that moves. All in favour?
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>>1090815
Hmmm... Maybe it was the way Wong said it that gave me this impression, but I think that I remember reading something that looked like that he was implying that the "conquering colonies and unifying the belt" would happen off-screen during this 2 months leap, and as everything else seems to imply that Fairchild and Cabot will meet their end in this arc... I reached this conclusion.

Problem is, I haven't been sleeping well for days now, and this is leaving me mentaly exausted... So maybe I'm just alucinating it or something...

>>1090803
>Miguel
>HUE
Assuming that the Avalonians are Space French... a Space BR may be a useful asset against them... Just remember what happened when Napoleon invaded portugal, that was top tier HUE bullshit even before Brasil became an empire.
>>1090836
Try like more two at least, there may be one of them holed up somewhere.

Where is Hector in this moments?
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>>1090847
Yup the Avalonians deserve it, and the Quilor should be mercy killed
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>>1090836
Try everyone, if they are all dead we can Gas everything.

Anyone disagrees?
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>>1090847
Whole site needs to be treated with fire.

Of a mind to just order withdrawal and destroy the whole place.

Its fairly interesting to note that the control does not appear to be total, bringing them to a near animalistic state. Yet she retained some semblance of thought to try and warn garret away.
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>>1090836
>>1090851
I suppose I'm for it. I can't imagine it taking too long.
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>>1090851
>Try dozens of different phone numbers in the hope maybe they missed one and give them more time to dig in
No

>>1090855
Seemed more like get out of the planet no get away
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>>1090850
>>1090847

Quliri*
And about this... Do we even have other choice? We can't even be sure if non-letal ammo would work agaisnt them.

On the other hand, they may be too feral to use weapons and this could be an easy run now.
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>>1090860
It won't take more than 2 minutes probably, and I don't think that someone did that to get time to dig in. Objective is more to check if we can just gas everything form outside or if we should worry about going inside for some reason.
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>>1090860
Possible.

I think we should take a single captive for further study. A just in case any of our people get infected. That way we can plan some counter-measures.
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>>1090867
Its a logical choice... But likely risky.
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>>1090867
Problem is you that's how you get an entire base spored.
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>>1090867
Sounds like a good idea, but it also seems like the mobile gate idea to me. Why wouldn't anyone have tried it before? An entire war was fought with the Greenmen, if they couldn't make a counter measure then, why could we now?
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>>1090861
I'm going to call this situation as FUBAR. If Hector is in there, we are going to need all fire power to deal with this thing. That includes ships. If every tentacle is dangerous, we are NOT going in there. We can set up explosives outside the damn and use the ships to blow it up, but we absolutely must NOT directly engage with these things.
>>1090867
Nope. Thermonuclear fire is the best option for this, alongside prepping everyone to kill the thing once the dam is blown. Shit.. what if thats Ford's goal? Get the thing out?
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>>1090869

We do have quarantine measures for infectious diseases. Besides its that or be caught completely flat footed when its unleashed again. This is already the second time we've run into these spores, we need to know more and of how it affects brain chemistry. Hence the need for a live specimen for study.
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>>1090851
Waste of time and extremely likely to fuck with our allies morale. Best to assume all of them are spored.
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>>1090874
Maybe they have, but maybe this is a different kind of spore.

I still believe in my theory of "Giant fungus living underground" and we don't know how long this is here, but assuming that Qul'r escaped the worse of the war... This thing could be from even before the war, maybe even a weapon that didn't got activated.
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>>1090869

I'm with thunder on this one. This stuff is way to dangerous for us on Qu'lir to safely handle and study. Burn it all to ash.
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>>1090874
Fair bit of difference since the mobile gate would have been something the major powers would have been trying to work towards but have been stymied due to hard science limits and word of god.

Theses spores appear to be something new or something very ancient that hasn't been encountered before, otherwise we would have received some form of safety briefing when we landed 'blah blah beware spores, highly contagious, no known cure, etc etc'. No this looks to be something unknown as of now, hence the need for further study.
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>>1090869

I'm going to remind you that you've seen no sign of spores thus far and that from the stories Papa and Grandpa Wedge have told you what they did was trigger the part of the brain that causes religious experiences and obedience at the sight of a Green Man.
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>>1090884
kill them first.
it's only humane, there still there. if barly, they need a mercy kill
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>>1090876
We aren't equipped to deal with it and any of us can get spored through this and if Amos or any of the other aces get spores shits going to get sooooo much worse since Ford is on his way. Its not worth the risks right now.

>>1090887
Still, not this shit doesn't seem like anything we want to deal with whatsoever.
>trigger the part of the brain that causes religious experiences and obedience at the sight of a Green Man
Now I feel ever more convince Avalon has been spored
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>>1090886
>>1090886
No no, I'm saying why wouldn't they have tried it, not why they didn't make it. Think about it, it's a super dangerous weapon. They can disperse it in the air and suddenly all their former enemies are now their soldiers. It would be priority 1 to keep the Greenmen from being able to do that.

>>1090887
Well then, what do spores look like. Well, what does Amos think spores look like?

>>1090894
That was ever in doubt?
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>>1090888
>kill them first, then burn.

Well duh, i assumed that went without question. what i mean is, don't carry around any samples, don't keep one alive "just for testing". We are not fucking around with this stuff, we kill and burn anything infected, and if we find the main body if this thing, we do the same to it.
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>>1090887
So most likely, catgirls went feral from the spores, and we still need to take out the dam. We have power armor right? So Qu'lirans aren't a threat until they can start shooting at us. I'd suggest fully sealed power armor troops can go in while the rest stay in transports/mechs. Strike team goes in. Take out their command center and wrangle the kitties into quarantine before we set a trap for Ford.
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>>1090894
it's not a spore.
it's that ant virus thing. probably in the food they caught and ate,
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The hair on the back of your neck is standing up. Something about that...that sound, those half-words, makes your belly curdle and your spine shiver, the unnatural tone of them. You've heard a lot of war stories, but you've never heard of something like this. You thought nothing could scare you more than the stories of the spores, they're one of the reasons why your power armor still traditionally has gas masks, but...this is something else, something new and uncharted, like a pool of inky water with Jove-knows-what evil lurking beneath the surface.

“Don't get too trigger-happy with those flamethrowers.” You warn O'Neil and Shao, “This is spooky, but you're not alone.”

“I'm not giving up.” Garret tries another number, and another, and another. Most are dead. Some just ring and ring with no answer. Some have customized voicemail, and the cutesiness of some of the messages is only more disconcerting. One answers, but no matter what Garret says, all you hear is ragged breathing and the sound of shuffling movement. You hear the PC fall to the floor on the other end, and eventually Garret hangs up on her. Another simply screams, and there's a sound of thrashing and things breaking until that PC goes dead too. Then, he gets one that surprises you. The contact icon is that of the tiger-striped girl he darted in the neck when she was threatening Irina from the other side of a blast door. “Can you hear me?” He asks, wincing.

“Come.” You want to jump away from that voice. It's perfectly understandable, but something about it is so wrong, so distorted, that it slaps you right in the most primitive part of your brain, the part that still remembers huddling in caves from enemies your species has no way to fight.

You watch Garret steel himself, “What's going on?”

“Come. Waiting you.” You hear a dripping noise, and the call terminates.

"Garret, that's enough." You put your hand on his shoulder as his thumb, just starting to shake, scrolls towards the next contact number, "We're going in."

As much as you don't want to, a leader has to be braver and more confident than any of his followers, to inspire them. You enter the covered outbuilding with the stairs leading into the dam first, sword in one hand and plasma pistol in the other.

Down you go, into darkness.

[Continued]
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>>1090898
Just how much she'd done and how many people just believed because of her crazy powers
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>>1090877
I doubt that it would make them give up on fighting, and if it causes some impact it will probably be by making them even more paranoid about not getting infected... What I see as a positive thing here.

>>1090888
Nice trips.
I want to agree with you, but if the first thing we see is clouds of spores and fungus everywhere... This might have become too risky to go inside, even if I don't believe that they are using guns and that they could cause damage on our armors.

>>1090894
>Avalon
I don't think so... Maybe the Paladins and people who had direct contact, but everything points that they were already pretty crazy on their beliefs even before the lady showing up, the "muh honor" thing wasalready there for centuries.

>>1090902
I blame four-ears, she might have drugged them as part of her loli keikaku,
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>>1090906
..Nope! Hell Nope. NopenopenopenopenopeNOPE!
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>>1090898

They look like dust. On Mars, at least, it's well-documented that the Green Men had atmospheric manipulation machines they claimed would be used to divert major storms away from trade routes and population centers while keeping gentle winds and light rain for the populated areas. It was widely cheered, and it wasn't for some time that people realized they'd been using them to disperse spores, after they were discovered being used on other worlds and after Jegal 6 and those other planets were destroyed and huge swathes of the Martian population were inexplicably okay with it. The reason the spores were so scary is that there were NO physical symptoms.

A few threads ago you guys talked about mandrakes, I thought that was an interesting theory.
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>>1090898

Ah I see what you mean. I'm not so sure that this is the same type of greenman spores. The raptors exhibited a much greater pack hunting ability compared to what the original specimens do. I believe this is more a local strain to this planet specifically and the Qu'lirans just undid some lock.

Frankly I have the nagging suspicion that Count Ford might have setup the natives to do exactly this and sacrificed them.
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>>1090906
Damn son, some serious fucking Tentacle Mind rape here, maybe some physical rape too
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>>1090906
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>“Come. Waiting you.” You hear a dripping noise, and the call terminates.
DO NOT LISTEN TO NYARLATHOTEP!PLEASE STOP!
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>>1090915
I doubt Wong would stoop that low.
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>>1090918
Tentacles man, they care not for what the author's morals are.
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>>1090918
The rape is happening we just don't hear about it. And besides we already had mind broken women fucked constantly to give birth to child soldiers who became cannibals. Rape isn't that much worse.
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hey guys, crazy idea. lets blow this bitch and find another place that isnt holding what looks like a baby green man who doesn't know how to do spore's yet
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>>1090906
MAKE US WHOLE!
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Well that was unexpected. At least we dont have to worry about dueling Hector now.

Shit heel soldier dudes are not at all qualified to be taking samples of this back to base so we should 100% not do that.
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>>1090927
We need the dam so we can break it when Ford is attacking and drown his troops. Thats the entire reason we're attacking the dam
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>>1090928
Man, I forgot my image.

now the reference sucks.
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>>1090931
do we even need to go in the damn now? i'm pretty the calls indicated that the rebel are basically dead as shit
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>>1090927
Sadly, I do not think that is an option. If Ford is moving our way, he may be coming for this. If we do not deal with it, Ford will arrive. But at the same time, 4 against 1 odds are dangerous. So.. it may very well turn into a case of destroy the dam then destroy the ancient evil and paladin. Either way, abandoning this place is a no go.
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>>1090937
Don't want to have to fight on two fronts or let whatever's in their attack us with our pants down. Best to bite the bullet and take down whatever's in their before Ford gets here.
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>>1090916
>being afraid of some shitty not-thing from outside reality

No wonder the Jovians wouldn't accept you into the navy.
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>>1090906
I do not like this, Sam I Am.
I do not like this Green Man plan.
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>>1090945
ayyyyy
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And everyone said I was crazy for never trust Avalonians, well whose crazy now? Still me, but its nice to see I wasn't totally out of touch at least once
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>>1090951
To be honest, I was worried about greenman bio weapons for a while. Today I have been proven right. Yaaaaaaaaaaayohgodssaveusall.
>>1090913
Interesting that we were close or interesting in a 'let's see how far we can push this baby'?
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>>1090945
we need to continue this.
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i do not like this sam i am
i do not like this green man plan

i would not try it on a dam
i would not try this green man plan
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>>1090956
I would not try it on some cars.
I would not try it on top of Mars.
I would not try it out in Space.
I would not try it any place!
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>>1090957
Would you like them in your house?
Would you like them in your spouse?
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>>1090906
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So, am I just being slow for just now realizing that Ford is going for the dam and whatever is in it, and not after the Jovians?
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>>1090953

I'll just say this. The Green Men did, with biological science, produce organic versions of many/most/virtually all of the esoteric systems you've seen on mecha up until now. Just think about that.
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>>1090958
I would not like them in my house,
I would not like them in my spouse!
I would not like them by the Cove.
I would not like them inside Jove!

I do not like this Green Man Plan.
I do not like them Sam I am.
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i do not like this sam i am
i do not like this green man plan

i would not try it on a dam
I would not try it on some cars.
I would not try it on top of Mars.
I would not try it out in Space.
I would not try it any place!
Would you like them in your house?
Would you like them in your spouse?
i would not try this green man plan!
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>>1090963
Would you like them in a box?
Would you like them in your socks?
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Your heartbeat shouldn't echo this loudly in your ears, your blood shouldn't rush with such fervor through your veins. You are Amos Adventure Wedge, son of Randall Wedge, son of Wotan Wedge. You shot down a Paladin with a Pumpkinseed II. You love the most ornery woman you know. You took out more insurgents than you've ever bothered to count with a needler and a monosword. You headbutted General Fairchild's favorite Major so hard you broke her nose.

You are absolutely terrified.

It's a normal reaction. Humans fear the dark because they don't know what's in it. A day-dwelling species whose best sense is arguably their vision is easy prey for night-hunting predators, those humans who didn't evolve that instinctual fear tended to get eaten by something that could see better than they could. Still, the human response to that fear wasn't to cower someplace safe, those humans who evolved further, who felt the fear but responded by taming fire and carving their own claws and fangs out of flint and basalt to kill the things that hunted them, became the first kings and their offspring became the first civilizations. Your fangs are quite advanced, and you're a lot taller and stronger than those primitive humans. So you put on your helmet's little luminator, casting a ghostly cone of radiance out ahead of you.

You don't even need it at first, small windows cast cones of dusty light through the shadowy dimness, and despite the overcast day and the knowledge that night will eventually come, you can see whatever isn't in too much shadow...and there isn't much there, anyway. Stark concrete tunnels, stairway leading down. You can hear the distant sound of rushing water, and what's either the pumping of some mechanism or the sound of your own heartbeat rendered distant by the part of your brain that wants desperately not to be here. There's graffiti on the walls once you're further inside, away from the windows. Slogans, mostly, 'WE SHALL BE FREE', 'CELEPHAIS IS NOT THEIR BASE' and 'LIBERATE QU'LIR' features prominently, but there's a lot of variety. There's a chalk drawing of Duchess Maria Carnegie, lovingly detailed by someone with talent, her tricorn hat angled just so that the back two corners give a faint impression of laid-back feline ears and her sword angled to resemble a tail. Her hands are extended, holding a bundle of autoguns tied together with roses, and behind her is the silhouette of the Berenger, a huge spear in its hand impaling a Warmouth while the nanofiber harpoons concealed beneath its wings drag dozens of Bluegills and Scimitars from the sky.

There aren't any lifesigns yet.

[Continued]
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>>1090963

Would you like them in a mech?
Would you like them in your neck?
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>>1090969
I would not like them in a box,
I would not like them in my Socks!
>>1090972
I would not like them in a mech,
I would not like them in my neck!
I would not like them as a balloon,
I would not like them on the Moon!

I do not like this Green Man Plan,
I do not like them Sam I am!
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i would try this sam i am
i do like th-th-the greenman man
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>>1090973
You may like them you will see!
You may like them in your sea!
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>>1090975
Quick set him on fire!
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>>1090975
BURN THE HERETIC!!!
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>>1090976
I do not like what I can see,
I do not like them in my sea!
I do not like them near my hand,
I do not like them near my Land!
I do not like them in my skies,
I do not like these green man lies!

I do not like this Green Man Plan,
I do not like them Sam I am!
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now bring it all together!
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>>1090984
Say!
In the dark?
Here in the dark!
Would you, could you, in the dark?
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>Claustrophobic horror mission turns into Green Men and Ham
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>>1090989
i fucking love this quest
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>>1090987
I would not, could not, in the dark,
I would not, could not, touch their bark!
I would not, could not try a spore,
not even in the planet's core!

I do not like this Green Man Plan,
I do not like them Sam I am!
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>>1090994
You do not like Greenman Plans?
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>>1090995
I do not, Sam I am.
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>>1090996
Could you, would you,
Try a spore?
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>>1090993
>>1090989
I love you guys.
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>>1091001
i could not, would not try a spore!
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>>1091003
Would you, could you,
in your pores?
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>>1091001
I would not, could not, try a spore.
I would not, could not, in my pores!
>>1091006
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>>1091009
You do not like them.
So you say.
Try them! Try them!
And you may.
Try them and you may I say.
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>>1091006
i would not could not in my spores!
i do not like green man plans
i do not like them sam i am
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You receive a hail over the commnet and nearly jump out of your skin.

“Yo boss!” Nedermeyer's goddamned cheerful voice is so out of place it's creepy, “We've found someone. A distress flare went up a few clicks from the dam, and a patrol mech spotted it. One woman, one badly injured man. He's bled unconscious, it looks like they only stopped when he collapsed, she fired the flare and surrendered to us. They're both Avalonian.”

“Not Qu'liri?” You question closely.

“Ayup. She's that, uh, what was her name. Wainright? Walton...hey, greenie, what did you say it was?” You hear her asking someone off to the side, “Ah, yeah. Wayland. Dame Elizabeth Wayland.”

It would be a lie to say your blood runs cold, it's practically glacial by now and has been ever since you got into a fight with a root system. It's a lot harder to stay balanced without one of the most advanced Jovian mecha ever keeping you safe, “Check their necks, check their spines, is there any trace of some kind of foreign plant matter or parasite?” You keep alert while waiting, tense as a violin string, for her response. The fact that she's paused to check is reassuring.

“Nope! He's been stabbed in the abdomen, and there are a bunch of defensive wounds on his arms and scratches on his face. She's badly bruised and skinned her knees, but says it was from carrying him away. I'm trying to get something out of her to explain what happened, but she's in shock. She keeps babbling something about her father, or someone's father, and when she isn't swigging the liquor she swiped from one of the Palomino pilots she's asking if we have nuclear weapons. Is this like that thing where people eat bad bread and go crazy?”

“Ergot? I don't know, Cathy, has rye ever tried to pull mecha out of the sky?” You joke without any humor.

“Excuse me, I'm talking to him RIGHT NOW. Whatever they dug up, I can't understand y-” You guess she's talking to Wayland, but you're abruptly too busy for that.

A Qu'liri is crawling towards you down the hall. Slowly, laboriously, using only her arms and a sinuous wriggling motion of her body. Her legs are shaking and jittering too badly for her to stand up. Her nails have been broken and fingertips rent by her single-minded effort to move forward but despite her clear physical distress she moves with a feral energy. Her ill-fitting fatigues are ragged and torn, and mixed in with her long hair you can see protruding white fibers like soft, plush tendrils. She looks up at you, and you freeze in horror. She's chewed her own lips off, blood and drool leaking in a waterfall over her chin, her teeth gnashing and biting on what's left of her tongue. Worms crawl beneath her skin, bulging what was once a pretty face into something that will haunt your nightmares for the rest of your life, “Ge...” She chokes, and hawks up blood, “Geh...” Her cheeks wrinkle around a rictus grin.

You raise your gun.

>[Do it]
>[Don't do it]
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>>1091011
Alright Alright
if you insist!
i will try them sam i am!
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>>1091011
...No
*the following is a picture of a mushroom cloud*
I do not like this Green Man Plan.
I do not like them, Sam I am.

That has been Green Man Plan, written by Dr. Zeus and supported by the SSL!
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>>1091013
>>[Do it]
KILL IT!! KILL IT NOW!!!!
CONSIDER THE DAMN COMPLETELY INFECTED !!
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I step out for like 2 hours and you guys turned the Thread into Dr.Seuss rhyme time
>>1091013
>[Do it]
Well this has taken a dark turn
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>>1091013
>>[Do it]
>im sorry
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>>1091013
>>[Do it]
>Tell Nedermeyer to get those Avalonians quarantined immediately
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>>1091013
>>[Do it]
May God have mercy on your soul.
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>>1091013
FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY DO IT NOW
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>>1091015
>>1091017
>>1091018
>>1091020
We should proably report this shit to our CO's. see if we got any nukes onboard or stashed somewhere
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>>1091013
>[Do it]
Kill it dead.
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>>1091013
>>[Do it]

Put her out of her misery.
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>>1091017
Another classic Jovian's kid's book
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>>1091013
>>1091026
>[Do it]

Actually voting probably helps. I r smart.
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>>1091013

SHOOT IT. SHOOT IT DEAD, THEN LIGHT IT ON FIRE.
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>>1091013
>[Do it]
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>>1091013
After shooting her
>Please put Dame Wayland on the line, I want to know what-in-joves-name is going on here NOW
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Who thinks we should scrap the mission and fall back to secure the perimeter
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>>1091013
>>[Do it]
>Proceed to walk out and call in orbital bombardment until the surrounding five or so miles is nothing but glass and ash. This mission is so far beyond worst-case scenario that's it's not worth salvaging.
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>>1091048
Cant really risk it for much the same reason we couldnt just seal the avalonians into the dam. What if the plant thing smashes it too early?
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>>1091042
I can second this. We lack the means to clear this out and it sounds like both of them are wounded. Make sure we have an image of the poor girl and we start on making a withdrawal. If those tendrils can do this to knights, it can do it to us. None of this works if we die here and one of us dying give them a powerful pawn.
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>>1091048
i just want to put a really big bomb on it,with a pretty red button
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You don't hesitate, except to aim. Her smile widens, and tears run down her cheeks. Her broken mouth works silently. You recognize her, and that's the worst part. Simon does too, she'd been one of the ones he'd knocked unconscious on the Cicero, back when she wore a maid uniform.

“Shhh.” You tell her, and squeeze the trigger. A little bell tied into her hair as an ornament jingles one last time. The darkness is momentarily banished. Filaments of hair fly away from her disintegrated skull and float, smouldering, to the ground. Sometimes you've wondered if it wouldn't have been better to go for one of the smaller, more popular, adjustable-setting beam pistols, but you'll never doubt your choice of going for the big iron as your sidearm, not ever again. “You're free now.” You say, so quietly you can barely hear yourself, “O'Neil, torch the body. Nedermeyer, don't hang up just yet. Put those two in quarantine, report anything suspicious, tell me when she can talk. Send a message to our backup and tell them to hammer on the thrusters.”

You turn and look at the others as O'Neil gives the dead girl a final baptism with his flamethrower, “Remember this. Remember why we're here.”

Garret spots a sturdy power switch on the wall, and slams it into the upright position. Dim lights flicker on all down the hallway and down the stairs at either end of it. One set goes up, likely to a small observation tower. If your mental map is right, the top of the tower is missing from stray shots the last time you came to this dam, there's nothing up there but broken glass. Down, though, down is a mystery.

[Continued]
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>>1091049
The problem is, if we could do this, why aren't we dealing with Ford and his Avalonians like that? It's not like they have any space forces to defend themselves..
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>>1091064
we would literally burn the oxygen out of the atmosphere. setting the air ablaze
scorched earth
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>>1091064
Paladins are a problem, but this is a gods damned Greenman weapon with a paladin on it. Worse, it's the sort that makes those horror stories very, VERY vivid. If there was any way to make everyone on Qu'Lir hate the green men, it's this. Also, why are we going deeper into the hell hole? Why are we risking our comrades by going into this festering hell mouth? We don't even have the charges! This is an exploritory mission!
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>>1091067
I dont think they have the range anyway.
>>1091070
Same reason we would need to go into the dam if it was full of regular avalonians.
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>>1091070

We're exploring the place in our power armour so the engineers with the charges can do their job without being eaten by catgirls or shrooms.

Although the cost/benefit ratio just keeps rising with no end in sight.
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>>1091082
>The fourth room down has been converted into a chemistry lab. About a dozen insurgents are sprawled across the floor, and from the mess and position of their bodies, you can see that some were drinking something they mixed, something that burned their lips and made their throats blue and stopped the pain for good, and some of them weren't so lucky, killed in the scuffle for the poison they drank.
Jesus Christ, this shit is hardcore.
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“Cathy, put Dame Wayland on.” You say, as calmly as possible. There's more graffiti here. It makes sense, some of these girls struck you more as activists and agitators than as real fighters...but as you descend into the corridor that changes and you see signs of a militia's training camp.

“Sir, I don't think she's...” Nedermeyer tries to argue with you.

“Leave that to me.” You restrain your temper with difficulty. You're on a hair-trigger fuse and only duty is keeping you down here. You want to leave. You want to destroy the dam now and go back to Innsmouth even though it's being evacuated. Still, you can't take the risk that they set off something worse, that whatever's lurking down here has some last-minute gamble to use against any intruders.

Rooms branch off the corridor, giving access to the mechanisms of the once-great hydroelectric dams. There's a lone window for each, giving them the feel of cells meant to cage some great, monstrous beast. Long tables with autoguns and beam rifles are laid out in the first few you pass. Some of the weapons are disassembled, it looks as though they were smuggled in in pieces in some cases. There are chalkboards, ancient technology but absolutely reliable, with detailed diagrams and illustrations showing the workings of the weapons. How to put them together, how to maintain them, how to use them. Mixed in with the guns are others, more lethal fare. Rocket launchers. Heavy anti-mech guns.

“Sir Blue Knight?” You almost don't recognize Dame Wayland's voice.

“Yes, it's me.” You force a smile, despite finding the corpse of a Qu'liri male huddled in the corner of the room you're in, his wrists slit open with the bayonet of his autogun. You burn his body too, “Is Hector alright?”

“Can you kill it? Can you burn it? Do you have some kind of weapon that can...that can destroy it?” She hisses.

“I don't know what it is, Elizabeth. I don't know anything except that this is the reason why we're fighting your people. Why we scorched the skies of Mars during the War.” You reply grimly.

She lets out a choked sob, “Hector, he...he saved me. By the L-...By...by...I don't know anymore. That thing. That THING they dug up after it had rotted and festered for so long in darkness, it's not...it can't be...”

The fourth room down has been converted into a chemistry lab. About a dozen insurgents are sprawled across the floor, and from the mess and position of their bodies, you can see that some were drinking something they mixed, something that burned their lips and made their throats blue and stopped the pain for good, and some of them weren't so lucky, killed in the scuffle for the poison they drank. You recognize some of the chemical formulae on display here from the Academy. Explosives and poisons, mostly.

[Continued]
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>>1091086
Yeah you'd think they could have found something to kill themselves more quickly or painlessly. Like shit cyanide is pretty common.
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>>1091089
probably all gone. Any who saw it coming already likely took their pills. With the 'roots' we've been seeing, the places that had it could have been sectioned off.
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>>1091061
Press F
>Nightmares for the rest of your life confirmed
You know... Do you guys remember what some anons said about Treize? about remembering the name of the dead? Maybe we should do it too... At least for these girls.
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>>1091096
>pills
Man I could go into our college lab and whip up some cyanide gas in like 10 minutes. Clear the whole room out.
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>>1091103
Don't think they had 10 minutes to wait or the mind frame to do so.
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Still, Dame Wayland has courage, “They dug it up. The four-eared girl Palmyra encouraged them. She said...she said it was a miracle, a god sleeping beneath Qu'lir, that it was found under the hills cocooned in...in what they called the Sacrament, that ghastly fungus...when they were digging out the tunnels to renovate the dam. I don't know how long it was here, during the War there were many battles, perhaps a landslide buried it, perhaps it came here to sleep for its own reasons. The rebels worshiped it, and Palmyra claimed the Duchess had said that things like it like the L...no, I can't, I won't, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME!” Her voice rises to a shout, then drops back to an apologetic whisper, “She said the Duchess claimed that they were responsible for making worlds like Qu'lir habitable. The Father of Qu'lir. Its god. Sleeping deep beneath the soil. Losing, being humiliated, it ate away at Palmyra, and when I was out hunting and my Hector was out drinking, something changed in her. She stopped being angry.” She takes a deep, shuddering breath.

“It's going to be okay, Elizabeth.” You lie to her, “Just talk to me. We're going to save you, and we're going to save Hector and as many people as we can.” That part isn't a lie.

“When I came back, Palmyra wasn't listening to me anymore. She'd always revered us so much, it got to our heads, she treated us almost like Paladins ourselves...but she claimed she'd had a vision, been visited by something greater. That respect in her eyes turned to contempt so quickly. She said I needed to see. We all needed to see. She said that we could all be one with the god, that she herself was becoming something more than what she was. She dared compare herself to a Paladin. She said my faith was weak when I questioned her. She had never even seen this god's face, only the root that grew from it and burrowed through the dam, so I argued with her...and then she spoke in a voice that was not her own, and something ELSE was gazing through her eyes. She, or whatever she had become, said it had watched me, watched us, since we arrived. That it had seen everything, that I had become weak and corrupted and forgotten how small and ephemeral I was, but even as it tore apart all that I am with words it was never angry, just disappointed. Finally, it told me that even though I was nothing, I was forgiven, it would make me a vessel. I watched Palmyra and the others consume the sacrament and swear themselves to the Father.” She sobs quietly, “Hector came for me. When they stood in his way, even the warriors he had befriended, he cut them down and saved me before...It was Palmyra that nearly killed him, he wasn't expecting her to be able to fight at all, none of us could, but whatever she is now is a different creature than the bitter cripple we all knew. He put an axe in her chest and those white fibers, those horrible white fibers pushed it back out, began growing out of her."

[Continued]
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>>1091101

Remembering the name of everyone you kill is a lot harder than the names of the soldiers that died (indirectly) under your command. We may know this one girl, but we can't say that for all the others here in the dam. There might be lot more then we know.

Besides, we did not kill them. It did. And we are going to make it burn for what it has done.
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>>1091107
Gassing everyone in the room is super easy if thats what you want to do. That said some gases are much nastier than others. We worked with one where if you inhaled too much of it it would start to turn into acid inside your blood.
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>>1091108
So, I think we should have those explosive chemicles ready. Shit, worse case scenario the fucker is going to use them to move. Melee weapons may just not cut it against them. Same with bullets. Plus side, we now know they aren't normal so we can be cautious and not get messed with. Garret might want to keep an eye on some of the dots if they move in on us.
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>>1091088
>" By the L-...By...by...I don't know anymore."
Hmm... Maybe we could use that, explore her doubt, make her betray her own people... And with Hector K.O. there is even the chance of guilty triping her by using his actual state has an emotional weapon...
Trained soldier or no, she is still a woman in love.

>>1091111
Hmmm... Good point.
I specially liked the "Burning" part.

>>1091086
The living wombs were way worse in my opinion, and the cannibal children made it even more hardcore.

>>1091108
Now... THIS IS HARDCORE.
Also:
>Palmyra
I KNEW IT!
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>>1091108

This keeps getting more and more fubar.

If Hector was beat so badly by that im not sure we stand a chance.
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“Some of them went mad. Some of them died. I heard the screams as we ran, and as I prayed to...to I don't even know who or what in gratitude that Hector and I hadn't eaten it...I forgot why I even exist. I still can't remember. Blue Knight, I don't care if we are tortured. I do not care if we die, but...kill it. Kill it kill it kill it kill it kill it!” Her voice becomes shrill, like a small girl at the sight of a big spider in her room.

“We will, I promise.” You tell her as soothingly as you can in this state, hearing a sound you wish you didn't recognize, coming from both directions of the corridor. Damn it, how did they get behind your route.

She takes a deep breath, “Not all of them died. Some...some just changed, inside, they became like...like animals. Fearless and vicious, I shot one six times as we fled the dam and it kept coming until Hector broke its skull with a pipe.”

“I know.” You say softly, bitterly, as your soldiers back away from the door, one slamming it shut and another overturning a table, wedging it under the door handle.

“Blue Knight?” She asks.

“I know because they're outside, and they're coming for us. If you see Irina before you see me again, tell her I love her.” As you listen to the shuffling march of uncoming feet and querulous quorks and mewling gasps of the oncoming enemies, you reload your pistol and prepare yourself.
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>>1091124
We should get us some lost planet style mechs for situations like this.
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Game resumes tomorrow.
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>>1091108
>>1091115

Wong, that reminds me, what sort of sensors do these suits have? And are we close enough to the surface/uside wall that one of the mecha outside with ASP can look through it and give us more intel on what we re facing. I do NOT like walking through these corridors blindly.

As for weapons, i'm not too worried. We are all packing a good amount of firepower, and Garret has a Ma Deuce with depleted uranium shells. If he can set it up and aim, anything at the wrong side of the gun is dead. Of course, that "if" is the problem here.
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>>1091130
See ya Tomorrow Wong
Thanks for running
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>>1091124
Wong, you've made me feel unexpected things.

I came here for giant robots punching other giant robots into scrap and explosions, and instead I get fucking Lovecraft invading Space Vietnyam.

Well done, sir.
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>>1091124
WHAT DID I SAY?! Damn it Amos! You were suppose to be the smartish one! Please tell me we still have an escape route and did not just barred ourselves from it!
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>>1091130
Thanks for running Wong... This one was amazing, like always.

>>1091131
Aim for the head, torch them alive, explosives if needed and able to use without causing the ceiling to fall on our heads.

If possible tell our people to have them scanned for possible infection but be as nicer as possible with the two of them... We need info NOW and the Dame won't try to escape when Hector is like that.

>>1091134
Didn't you noticed yet that things never go as planned for us? Man, things got so crazy that now the universe even revives Greenmen to try to block our mighty strategies!
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>>1091123

Hector is just one guy, who was most likely lightly armed and armoured, and was wounded due to a surprise attack.

We are a group of trained combatants, each wearing bulletproff powered armour, carrying proper firearms, and we are alert and expecting trouble. They are not going too win this just by overwhelming us. As long as we stay calm, stay allert, and focus our fire, at least the kittens are quite manageble.

Fourears and the thing itself might present more of a challenge though.
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>>1091137
Also, may want to shot a few times through the door and then flaming it through the hole, the first shots will at least hurt some of them even if they weaken the door, but the burning factor could cause real damage to them even before they get to take it down.
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>>1091137

Well the situation is now an existential threat. Mission should be well and fully be scrubbed. We need to try and fight our way back to our mechs and then level the place.

We do have full scans of the dam don't we. We might be able to pull a Thunderbolt and have a pumpkinseed beam saber some of the hostiles or punch a hole for us to evac.
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>>1091137
Do not assume it to be that easy. If these things are Armor Piercing, that armor is suddenly a lot softer. We have 'body armor' in our men, but I would rather not sacrifice them.
>>1091143
Do NOT shoot through the door! That thing is the only thing protecting us and we can't see through it. Assess the situation, withdraw if possible, maybe set up a trap, but do not destroy the door. If they start breaking through the door, shoot them and starting withdrawing if possible. We stick together as a team.
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I go to sleep and when I wake up it's to this level of lovecraft? Jesus, it's almost enough to make me stop supporting Avalon.
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>>1091150

I'm not saying it's going to be easy, i'm saying it's going to be manageable, and that our situation does not compare to Hector's at all.

As for our strategy, have Garret set up the Machinegun trained at the door, so it can cover as much of the hallway behind it as possible.
Meanwhile. the guys with the flamethrower stand at either side of him, at a slight distance,
once the door starts breaking, Garret opens up with the machinegun annd mows the bastards down. if he get's overwhelmed/has to reload, the flamethrowers take over and fry everything that gets into their fielld of view.

Meanwhile, everyone else either keeps their eyes on the door in case the big guns need support, or on other entrances in the room that they could sneak in through (vents, windows, etc.)
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>>1091215

Onthe other hand, maybe the machinegun is a bit too much overkill for these things,and prrobably need to spare it's ammo, just in case we run into four ears or some big tentacle. Might be better if we set up the big gun (just in case), while just opening our salvo with the rifles of half our group (with the rest looking for sneaky bugggers at other entrance points).
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>>1091219
just remind our team to go for head shots as that seems to kill them
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>>1090961
Its the equivalent of the Greenskulls human control HMIS
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>>1091307
Its pretty significantly worse. At least human control HMIS cant get up and beat the shit out of you.
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>>1091316
Well, its the greenman equivalent, so of course its worse. It also explains why the cultists aren't launching mecha.The HMIS is probably incompatible with the greenman control tech.
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>>1091330
Apparently this isnt even their regular mind control spores so its even worse again.
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>>1091332
>Apparently this isnt even their regular mind control spores so its even worse again.
Right. That's why I compared it to the HMIS tech the greenman. The growths attach to the back of the neck and the spine, where the central nervous system is. Less religious brainwashing, more ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.
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>>1091335

Honestly, it does not seem to be even that. Maybe the ones we've encountered were still resisting control, but none of them seemed to be very controlled to begin with. From the kitty cat on the phone that could barely speak, to the one in the hallway that could not even walk, let alone fight, to the ones in the lab that were tearing eachother to pieces to get a sip of poison.

Of course, there's the possibility of those being the more resistant ones, and the most pliable kittens are just straaight up controlled without to much fuss, but that does not fit with the pattern we've seen so far.
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>>1091338
>Of course, there's the possibility of those being the more resistant ones, and the most pliable kittens are just straaight up controlled without to much fuss, but that does not fit with the pattern we've seen so far.
This >>1091108 Certainly seems like ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL to me.
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>>1091338
Plus they have their own actual HMIS equivalent that the paladins probably use and that doesnt involve growths sticking out their backs.
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>>1091108
>The Father of Qu'lir.

Oh. Ooooh. I guess that was what Simon's mech was after, huh.
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>>1091156

This has gone so far beyond Avalon the genuine Avalonians got attacked and are freaking out.

I blame Maria for this.
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>>1091941
The Avalonians knew this thing Was here and it's based on the idea of sporing. Most likely this was a Greenman super weapon made during the war that either was meant for the future, or wasn't activated during the war.
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>>1091960

These are literally not spores.
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>>1091960
>She said the Duchess claimed that they were responsible for making worlds like Qu'lir habitable.
Seems to be some sort of terraforming plant.
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>>1091983
>One of these might be hidden on every Greenman terraformed planet
That's terrifying
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>>1092007
Stands to reason they would need something at least this big to terraform a planet.
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>>1092007
Maybe they were originally meant to be removed by the greenmen decades ago before they became dangerous but they never did because of the war. Maybe this is the real reason the Lady sent forces to Qu'lir. This whole thing keeps me thinking that the Lady is truly out for revenge. Wayland's reaction to thinking that thing might be related to her beloved Lady also makes me think that the Lady actually might not have the ability or technology to spore her subjects because otherwise they wouldn't really care about this abomination being related to her in some way. She just relies on good old brainwashing and pretending to be a goddess.
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>>1092007
The fact it seems to consist of two parts, with the fungus covering something else worries me. Could be a greenman core. Either way, we ar in no position to fight them on foot.
>>1092229
It's what I figured. Only greenman tech she had was her bioarmor. Great for making mandrakes, but probably not other war crimes.
>>1091215
As for this, it's a good idea though I recommend modifying it slightly. Keep some melee units near the guns as means to deal with any monsters that breech the passage. If we are in the lab room, search for pure alchahol, styrofoam, and maybe some binding agent. Either we set them on fire or we make napalm. Either way, explosions and property damage is not a issue. We can move half our MA for free, so we keep moving and keep shooting. Any melee unit is to take aim for the next cat monster to enter stabbing range. If we can get to the weapon room, get ammo and any big things just in case. Missiles are to be used as a last, luck filled, resort.
Keep together and hopefully our clear teams are capable of keeping the doors open for our escape.
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>>1092229
I doubt they we're meant to remove them. They we're sporing people secretly for years, I doubt they would care about what this thing does
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>>1091976

The infection does act exactly like fungus (or more specifically, the Cordyceps, which does something really similar to ants and other insects) but from dame Grey's story, they got infected by eating some part of the "father", rather then aerial spores. Of course, the "sacrament" might just be the sporepods of the main fungus, ony consumed before they release naturally.

So it may not be the sporing we are used to from the Green Man stories, but it is a fungus, which spread via spores, which is a bit too much of a coincidence for me.
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>>1092281
Maybe, maybe not, no one really knows exactly when the green men really turned on humanity. They could have designed these things to turn into monsters from the very start and exterminate the local non-greenmen populations. It might be an unintended side effect of being abandoned for decades if they meant for this thing to be somewhat intelligent and adapt. We don't really know for sure and it might even be both for all we know: an intelligent bioweapon meant to kill or subjugate the planetary population that got buried under a pile of rubble and eventually gained sentience(and a god complex).
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>>1092276
I fear that this thing is bad enough that we might end up asking Avalon for help. I mean, if it turns against them more than us they would be a welcome distraction while we shoot it in the while it rips their knights to shreds.
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>>1092360
That would be possible if it was Duke Eustace, but we have Ford to deal with. Crazy zealot would likely slather himself in sacriment if he had the chance.
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>>1092360
>>1092388

Well, given the situation, there are two possibilities.

1. Ford felt the awakening of the Father through his paladin, and is now racing here to contain/kill it, in which case he is still slaughtering thousands of innocents (a lot of them the people he's ostensibly here to protect from us). Not a great mark on your resumé.

2. Ford felt the awakening of the Father through his paladin, and now he is racing here to join up with it. Which would increase our problems exponentially.

Neither of these give a great reason for working with him, and the second possibility makes me worried about contacting him at all.
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>>1092444
It would be more accurate to use him as bait but yes, I can see how him being near us won't help the overall situation seeing as he might want to take us out first regardless of his thoughts on the Father.
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>>1092728
At the end of the day, the plan hasn't changed. The Dam must be destroyed to expose the father and to flood the enemy force. The only difference is that we are going to have to make very sure that everyone on that field is very, very dead.
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so.
as you all know. i am a big fan of the idea of a independent belt. it's own kingdom away from the imperialist jovian and maritain zealot.
we also have a very swag flag made for us.
but what else is there to be to it? what is the culture like?
what does the soldier and common man dress like?
what is are main line mecha?
those sort of questions.
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>>1092907
I actually made the perfect line mech a couple hours ago.
http://pastebin.com/4WjLkjVs
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>>1092924
holy shit, that looks cool
if i could make a mecha(i cant) i would try to make this one. if only because it looks cool. and has sunglasses
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>>1092907
Well, in terms of main line mecha, we have a pretty good variety. Myrm and Dutchmen are both pretty good machines in terms of covering basis, and the F-type, Lightning, and the Bird Mech are pretty fast. The Tank and Valkyrie are both good for defense, and Bushis seem to be pretty sturdy too.
>>1092924
Not a bad machine, but aside from armor it's pretty defense light. Would certainly take the wings off of any medium striker with that gun. Beam Scatter however, would be it's bane.
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>>1092907
>what is are main line mecha?

I thought the whole point of the Space jam was to find one?
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>>1092982
i thought it was to make money.
but then again that would be smart.
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>>1092953
It's not that hard to make a simple mech. It gets a bit complex when you make the weapons since they're the biggest determining factor in what they can do. Just download the Mekton PDF (I won't post a link since I might get banned; just looking up Mekton PDF should find it) and just mess around with it in your free time. That's how I got started at least. I wasn't even planning on making a mech for the tourney and decided it could be fun.

>>1092980
Nobody got my line joke? I thought it was good.

>>1092982
I thought the plan was for upgraded Bluegills and Harpies (I think the name decided for them was Rocs and Shinobi?) to be the standard mech with the tourney mech being more like a specialist thing since they're more expensive.
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>>1092982
>>1093009
I should clarify, the upgraded Harpies are called Rocs and Shinobi. I haven't seen a name for the Bluegills.
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>>1093015
Bluegills are becoming parts for rocs which are mini master harpies. And no, I am bad with subtle jokes at times. It's the price I pay to have the autism required to keep working on the Dutchman. Still, I'll give you an important tip; your mech has a critical flaw in the left arm. Taking it out fully disarms your machine. Keep that in mind.
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>>1093034
I noticed too. I didn't make it to be used, so I just gave it Design and Decor instead of shrinking the gun so it would have more flavor.
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>>1093034
The Libra's the same way, if the gun or right arm gets destroyed, it's fucked. Unless it can somehow grab the gun with it's left if it's still intact.
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>>1093049
Perfectly reasonable. Nice to see machines that have some style along with substance.
>>1093062
Destroying the limb doesn't destroy the gun so at the cost of an action, you can pick it up again.
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>>1092982
Not exactly. The Mechs most likely to win the tourney are the melee Mechs, which wouldn't make for great grunt forces.
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>>1093089
And a thought hit me. Amos is a farm kid, so he likely knows about herbicides and fungicides. We may not be able to whip up a exact one, but Acids and strong bases along with some pure alchahol and a lit match could work as well. We even have gas masks! Might not work perfectly, but damn it, any means to get out of here.
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BTW, what's the cheapest mech currently in the Tournament?
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>>1093186
I think it's 137?
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Things I am glad I did not actually do despite almost doing them: typing "how to make gas grenades" into google. I got midway through the sentence before I realized I'd end up on a for-real watchlist if I did that.

ATF please no hurt my doggo.
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>>1093232
Cheapest Loadout?

Which one is it?
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>>1093237
all you got to do is type
"don't worry i'm a writer"
afterwards.
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>>1093238
Oops, I was wrong. It's 136.5 CP. The Myrmidon's second loadout.
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>>1093237
Depends on the grenade.

You can make a chemical grenade that spews gas by having it store reactants in separate chambers and mix them when thrown.

You can also have a chemical mixed with an aerosolizer and have that spew when the grenade is thrown.
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>>1093251
Really? Could have sworn I made the first Loadout the cheapest.
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>>1093237
GAS THE FURRIES, SHROOM WAR NOW!
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>>1093237
Well it's not a gas, but iirc you can make cheap napalm by dissolving Styrofoam in gasoline.

>>1093254
It is. Didn't even look, I was just searching 137 and such. Why didn't you use the extra CP for anything?
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>>1093261
Because from experience, 3 CP is a bitch to work with. The options that fit take up space so you need free space. Increasing the kills on something would normally be more than 3 CP to keep the balances in check, and there is just a bunch of trouble in general if you are just coasting the line.
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>>1093268
No, I mean the one that's only 123.4 CP.
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>>1093261
I wanted to make it more easily mass producible.

The Pumpkinseed-II is a high-end Mook mech and it's only around 120 CP. Islander Interstellar Built the Myrmidon as a kind of competitor to it, so I wanted them to be about comparable. The other loadouts reflect what it's truly capable of.
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>>1093276
Oh, alright. Cool.
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Side note: but how many Sparrows are on this planet?
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You look around. Despite the mess, there's still a fair amount of chemical supplies here, “Hey, Simon...who had the highest grades in Chem back at the Academy?” You put a hand on his shoulder.

“Uh, Heinrich?” Your friend looks at you questioningly.

“No, I mean of us.” You explain patiently, “Garret, about how thick is that wall?”

“It could probably stand up against small-arms fire.” He replies, “It's not like these people cared about proper building codes or this place was built to be a chemlab.”

The two of you share a glance. You can feel him grinning behind his gas mask as he takes the Ma Deuce off his back and braces the tripod, whistling. He pulls the huge ammo box off the back of Simon's power armor and sets his gun up, “Alright, Duchess, time to do your thing...”

“Won't that destroy the wall?” One of the recruits asks.

“It's going to put holes in it.” Garret replies, “Neat little holes, with all the mess on the other side. I've had a lot of practice.”

The door shakes as something slams into it, then again, and again. The eerie hissing and mewling gets louder. A fire axe breaks through the door and bites into the table, and on the other side of the door you see a burly Qu'liri male lifting his arms up for another swing. There are bloody tracks like crimson tears down his face, and those pale veins pulse beneath his skin.

You unclip your PC and put a song on.

>[Open fire?]
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>>1093375
>[Open fire]
No reason not to.
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>>1093375
Fire all the guns.
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>>1093375
[Open Fire]
Got something classical on there Amos? Something soothing to the nerves as we clean the fields of a fungus infestation.
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>>1093389
There is only one song, and that is Fortunate son.
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>>1093389
How about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJVpihgwE18
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>>1093425
Where is everyone? You'd figure the coming of cathuhlu would have more people pop up.
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>catch up on shit that was posted overnight
>mfw
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>>1093469
I just didn't feel like voting.
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Rolled 9, 7, 5, 2, 9, 4 = 36 (6d10)

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Rolled 5, 5, 6, 3, 7 = 26 (5d10)

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Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>1093483

Forgot one.
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Rolled 3, 1, 9, 1, 6, 6, 9, 5, 7, 4 = 51 (10d10)

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>>1093477
>>1093483
So... did we clean house? Because if thats the 3 ours, 3 theirs, we got 4 successes with some nice burst weapons. Hoping that 9 is Garret for extra BRRRT.
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Rolled 3, 7, 4, 7 = 21 (4d10)

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>>1093237
your on 4chan Wong, we're all on a list. specially those that go to /pol/
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>>1093555
Trips confirm, Trump's special 4chan taskforce is a go
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There's only one song to play right now. Garret sprays a little oil on his baby, and carefully readies the long thread of tremendous bullets inside the box.

The music kicks up as Duchess does. Garret isn't some spray-and-pray insurgent, either, he's a Jovian and he shoots like one.

'Some folks are born made to wave the flag, ooh they're red white and blue!'

TAP TAP TAP TAP TAPsays Duchess, and there is abruptly one less cat on that side of the door. TAP TAP TAP she says again, and you see brick splinters on the opposite wall carving the faces off the infected Qu'liri. The torso and left arm of the insurgent with the axe are just...hamburger, shredded meat and broken bones.

'And when the band plays Hail to the Chief, they point the cannon at you!'

Four Qu'liri are just gone, two missing their heads entirely, one is twitching on the ground with its leg on one side destroyed and its opposite arm blown off. Shao gives the twitching one a quick double-tap through the skull with his sidearm, aiming carefully. One of Barbossa's squadmates affixes an oversized, glitteringly shiny bayonet to her rifle, and angles it out the door, “Five down, dozens left, sir.”

'It ain't me! It ain't me! I ain't no senator's son!' CCR howls, 'It ain't me! It ain't me! I ain't no fortunate one!'

That would normally make anyone scatter, but these don't. The ones hit directly go down because the Ma Deuce erases the core infrastructure of their bodies, but the ones that eat shrapnel just don't seem to care. A few scream, but it doesn't sound painful, it sounds angry, and they surge towards the door in a wall of meat. Blood and fungal hyphae spatter the walls, which are full of holes. One, with white fingerlets of fungus poking out of her face and arms, pulls out a grenade and rears back to throw but the ensuing hail of fire from the Jovians poised for exactly that takes her arm off, the explosion momentarily scattering the kitties.

“So they're not all stupid.” O'Neil notes, “Stay here or move out and sweep the corridor with fire, sir?”

>[Stay here]
>[Advance]
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>>1093631
>>[Advance...slowly]
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>>1093631
>>[Advance]
"Lets not give this thing time to think... or to figure out how to launch their mecha."
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>>1093631
>>[Advance]
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>>1093631
>[Advance]
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>>1093631
>>[Advance...slowly]
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>>1093631
>[Advance]
GeneralPattonintensfies.png
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>>1093631
If anyone can make use of the chemicles here, do so. A fire wall or some gas would be really useful as we proceed.
In short, if we can get some anti cat weapons, do so. If not, advance. Us sitting here means they will just get more things against us.
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Give me a few 1d10+14s.
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Rolled 10 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093656
Ohhh.. I hope we can withdraw because this gives me the bad feeling.
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Rolled 2 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093656
Got you Wong
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093656
Dice gods pls
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Rolled 9 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093662
>>1093663
The dice love fear, apparently

>>1093656
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093656
Anyone know how one would stat a variable melee weapon?
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>>1093656
Wong, does our rifle have a laser pointer? Because the kitties are acting awfully animalistic. And I really want to trick one into running after the laser pointer at least once in the quest.
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>>1093671
Also, laser pointers actually give us a +1 with accuracy!
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>>1093671
But that's racist! What are you going to do next, soak them with a catnip solution?
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>>1093679
I may not be Sam, but I like this plan.
Do you like this plan?
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>>1093686
i do like this plan
i do like this plan sam i am
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>>1093671
we can use them to attack each other too!
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>>1093683
>>1093695
>Greenman weapon realizes that controlling cat people may have been a bad idea.. since they control like cats.
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Rolled 4, 6, 2, 1 = 13 (4d10)

>>1093662
>>1093663
>>1093664
>>1093665
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More dice please.
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Rolled 9 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093738
Why do you do this to me Wong?
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Rolled 8 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093738
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093738
TAKE MY DICE, WONG-SAMA~
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093738
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093738
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Rolled 2, 5, 3, 7 = 17 (4d10)

>>1093667
>>1093742
>>1093746
>>1093752
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One more, as a parry.
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Rolled 1 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093738
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093784
2 luck
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Rolled 4 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093784
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093784
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Rolled 1 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093784
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>>1093786
>First post of the day
>1
....
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>>1093796
What makes it funnier is that if we're rolling against that 7, my role would have tied it.
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>>1093796
You probably did something to deserve it.
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>>1093786
>>1093796
and it was one second apart. If you would have waited, or used luck on a critical roll, we would have been fine. WHY DID YOU NOT USE LUCK!?
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Rolled 3, 5, 6, 2, 5, 4, 4, 4, 3, 4, 1, 5 = 46 (12d6)

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>>1093802
>role
With how I'm fucking up words so much lately, I think I am dyslexic.
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>>1093809
Well... You could say that it isn't valid, because I linked to the wrong post, what do you think of that?
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>>1093823
Hmmm, Wong, would that be true? He did indeed not use the right post.
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>>1093827

You're in power armor, but also technically correct.
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“Advance, I want bullets flying in both directions. Barbossa, open a path.” You order, “Shao, O'Neil, you're on clean-up duty. Burn the bodies, all of them.”

'Some folks are born, silver spoon in hand! Lord, don't they help themselves!' Just like you with your fancy weapons and armor.

“Ay-ay sir.” Barbossa pulls a 'nade and chucks it into the corridor at an angle, the ensuing explosion splattering the chalk drawings on the walls with an interesting variety of colors, mostly red.

You lead the way, sword in hand, beheading the first insurgent to come charging at you with a brick in her hand. It's almost an insult, unless they surround you and drag you down, to challenge a man in power armor with a monosword wearing fatigues and swinging a brick. Bullets chatter like a flock of geese, mowing down cats by the cluster. Your troops are disciplined, conserving ammo and covering each other. There aren't many to the side you came from, and as you look around you can see how they must have gotten in behind you.

“A secret passage, really? These insurgents watch too many simflicks.” A recruit complains.

“It's more common than you'd think.” Grumbles one of the older ones, you'd be more surprised he's okay with following orders from a teenager if you weren't SOUL and if human society hadn't stopped coddling young men and women after the nuclear conflict. Indeed, there's a secret passage in one of the rooms across the hall, it looks like a shooting range. You slice off the top third of a Qu'liri male's skull, kicking him in his flak-jacketed chest and knocking the assault rifle he's wielding out of his hands before he can bring it to bear on your friends.

'But when the tax man comes to the door, lord the house looks like a rummage sale!' CCR continues to preach.

Still, as much as the combined firepower of your squad is ripping them apart, a dozen or so per volley, bullets are finite and it looks like there's half a hundred of them to go. You're relieved when Simon charges up with a bottle of some colorless liquid, with a smaller blue liquid in a tiny vial floating inside it, and hurls both. You're busy gutting an insurgent as the glass breaks and a greenish gas floods the hallway. You watch bodies stumble around and drop with a grim smile, one that abruptly fades as something charges at you out of the mist, a figure in faded, ragged power armor of its own. It snarls viciously as it swings a chainsword down at you, your monosword barely parrying in time. She...you assume it's a she from her frame...is too close for your friends to douse her with fire, you'll have to negate her yourself.

'It ain't me! It ain't me! I ain't no millionaire's son, oh no no! It ain't me! It ain't me! I ain't no fortunate one, no!' CCR reminds you.

>[More dice, 1d10+14s]
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Rolled 10 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093886
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Rolled 6 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093886
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093886
Bloody hell!
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Rolled 1 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093886
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Rolled 5, 3 = 8 (2d10)

>>1093892
>>1093893
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1093886
Did Simon just fucking throw an improvised Chlorine Gas grenade?
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Rolled 2, 2, 6, 2 + 2 = 14 (4d6 + 2)

Versus 14
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Rolled 8, 2 = 10 (2d10)

Oh, derp, I forgot she can parry.
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Rolled 6, 4, 6, 3 + 2 = 21 (4d6 + 2)

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>>1093917
>>1093927
Don't forget the melee bonus from power armor! I think it's a +4 to damage.
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>>1093917

And I forgot that monoswords have a better-than-usual AP that cuts AP to 1/3 instead of 1/2. So that's five damage on the first swing, twelve on the second, even someone with 10 Body taking a hit to the torso can't survive that.

Incidentally, she had +16s to her rolls (+15 to attack with a chainsaw's penalty), and a chainsaw cuts armor to 1/4 with its even-better AP.

Thus go Wong's miniboss fights always.
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>>1093942
Don't worry Wong, you still got the Father to terrify us with! I'm sure he won't totally roll like shit!
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>>1093942
if anything it's a statement of how deadly this system is, and how quickly Amos, Ceaser, and even Roarke and the girls can bite it.
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>>1093942
So what are we at for boss fights we straight up ruined?

Rashid
Greenskulls
First mate (Multiple times)
Big Zam
Duchess
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>>1093942
I'll try to tone my rolls down.
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>>1093937

Quite right, and she actually takes a bit less damage from having power armor. 4 and 11 respectively.
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>>1093954
To be fair, the Big Zam included a cunning plan so I don't really count that too much.
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>>1093954

Almost none of those. Rashad had some back and forth, you beating him to death through his shields and the outcome of the fight was 100% kino. The Green Skulls, I thought your crits were funny. The First Mate, especially the first time, I very much enjoyed. Big Zam had a cunning plan. The Duchess was too much of a plot twist to dislike, for me.
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'Some folks inherit star spangled eyes! Ooh they send you down to war!'

Your weapon is faster, and despite her feral speed and skillful maneuvering you're lucky enough to hit with your first stab at just the right angle to drive the point in through a gap in the armor plating, slice through the anti-ballistic mesh underneath, and clip her spine. She pushes forward onto your sword with a growl. You grab her hands to keep the chainsaw high, whip out your sword from her body, and jam it up under her chin, beneath the edge of her helmet, and this time you feel the blade sever her spine. Her legs kick and thrash, then go limp. You whip your blade back and forth to take her head off completely, then flick the blood off it the way you've seen in the simflicks.

'And when you ask them how much should we give...hoo...they only answer more! More! More!'

“Cool.” Shao remarks, sounding unimpressed. He always sounds unimpressed.

'It ain't me, it ain't me! I ain't no military son! It ain't me! It ain't me! I ain't no fortunate one!'

What comes out of the helmet is different than what you've seen with the others, rolling free. White tendrils have grown out of what was once a handsome Qu'liri woman's face and cheeks, writhing around until you incinerate them with your pistol, “Don't get so impatient. Blowtorches, you're up.” You gesture, and your flamethrower troops get to work cleansing the bodies.

>[Risk the secret passage]
>[Proceed through the building openly]
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>>1094019
>[Proceed through the building openly]
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>>1094019
>[Proceed through the building openly]

>>1094011
Kino?
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>>1094019
>>[Proceed through the building openly]

>>1094011
I meant we just breezed through them and made the fights almost trivial with how much we crushed it
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>>1094019
>>[Proceed through the building openly]
We're dealing with a Green-something here, so its probably a trap.
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>>1094019
can we collapse the secret passage before continuing?
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>>1094019
>>[Proceed through the building openly]
Sorry secret passage, not today. Formation stays solid, keep an eye for traps and ambush spots. Any ammo we can salvage, we do.
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>>1094032
Heavily block it instead, can be useful, but we don't want them to continue to flank us easily.
Destroying it for good could have repercussions.
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“You know, we can't take all of that with us...” You look back at the chemistry room sadly. A dozen Jovians grin simultaneously.

Some minutes later, the secret passage's entrance collapses in a gout of fire as the wooden beams give way, and you hear screaming from within. Cheering echoes from your side of the doorway as you continue hurling napalm cocktails into it, “Nice trap, jerks!”

“Yeah, as if we'd go in that cramped little tunnel!”

“UJCIDF ain't nothing to fuck with!”

You tell yourself that you're all laughing out of nerves and adrenaline, but deep down...you hope this thing, whatever it is, feels what you're doing to it. Poor damned rebels,

>[Incendiary Grenades that do 1d6 to every location of every target within 6 meters of where they hit have been added to your inventory. A lot of them. Have fun with that. It looks like the system wants you to roll a flat Athletics+WA to throw them, but that's stupid. Reflexes+Melee, since they're thrown]

Instead, you make your way in formation through the dam like big dam heroes, whistling the Jovian National Anthem, until you arrive at a level where wide rivers of lakewater pour through the structure and turn massive turbines, high catwalks giving you access above them.

Across the way, though, on a parallel walkway, you see something you weren't expecting. This isn't a mob, like the one earlier. No, it's an organized formation of twelve...insurgents? You think they are, at least, they seem to be wearing some kind of ivory armor or white uniforms. You tap the magnification on your HUD, and zoom in.

No, those aren't uniforms, in fact they're completely naked. There isn't much sexy about that, though, the tendrils growing out of their skin have flattened and hardened into bone-white plates over their bodies, with barbed tentacles growing out of their forearms. Each one is cradling an autogun. What's most eerie, though, is that they move in perfect synch, as organized as a flock of birds or school of fish.

>[1d10+10]
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Rolled 2 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1094126
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Rolled 4 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1094126
And things keep getting worse
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>>1094132
Well I toned my dice down. And got a new ID. For whatever reason.
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Rolled 5 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1094126
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Rolled 5 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1094126
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Rolled 2 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1094126
I would start throwing the molotovs if theyre in range.
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>>1094126
Crap, this thing is a LOT worse than I thought.
The difference in coordenation may have to do with HMIS compatibility... But Fungus armor? Seriously? So Fast? We need to burn this monster down with no mercy... But how are we going to do that without destroying the dam?Can we napalm it under the earth?
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Rolled 10 + 10 (1d10 + 10)

>>1094132
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>>1094126
You know whats great about grenades and blast weapons? You don't need to aim at a person to use them. You can aim at the ground and let the blast do the work and a decent range is around a DC 15. Which we can pass automatically.
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>>1094149
I'm doing great guys.
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>>1094153
>>1094147
>>1094149
NUKE THEM!
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>>1094149
Welp, lets just start lobbing those molotovs
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Rolled 2, 3, 9, 2, 8, 6, 10, 5, 4, 5, 4, 3 = 61 (12d10)

Feed me 1d10+14s. Just do I don't forget, you actually dodge at +16.
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Rolled 9, 7, 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 3, 1, 6, 5 = 50 (11d10)

>>1094193
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Rolled 7 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094193
AHHHHHHH
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094193
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094193
Oh god, spore guns.
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094193
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>>1094196
I hope our guys is spending luck... and that their guns and current state slow them down... and that distance hurts them so very, very much.
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094193
people gon' die.
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Rolled 3, 9, 10, 1, 5, 9, 10, 6, 8, 9, 8, 10 = 88 (12d10)

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Rolled 7, 10, 3, 8, 7, 10, 9, 4, 7, 5, 6 = 76 (11d10)

>>1094226

The good news is that Amos is 100% fine.
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>>1094232
W-what about everyone else?
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>>1094215
>"NOOOOOO MIGUEEEEEEEEEL!"
>Then Miguel fakes his death and manages to shot the fungus-ladies from behind with a flamethrower.
Plot Twist
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>>1094234
I am hoping there is a bend we can abuse because walking into range of that sort of shit is bound to end badly.
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Rolled 4, 7, 4, 5, 7, 1, 1, 9, 1, 4, 3 = 46 (11d10)

>>1094234

Power armor is pretty resistant to autoguns and everyone spent some luck, although if someone took several hits (no one did, the guy right after you, Garret, and Simon got pretty lucky and didn't cross that threshold on the second roll) I'd have them start getting location rolls.

Give me a fresh 1d10+14 plus whatever luck you're spending.
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094281
1 luck I guess
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Rolled 9 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094281
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Rolled 2 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094281
1 luck
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Urgh, you know what? I'm gonna handle this with another dicebot, give me a bit.
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Rolled 4 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094281
1 luck
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Rolled 7 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094281
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>>1094297
I'm not sure if we are going the path of dead space or DOOM. All I know is I want to burn this place to the ground and then drown Ford.. and then nuke this place.
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>>1094311
...And then get another promotion, whats next? Captain Amos? I would like a spaceship even if I'm not Sam.
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094281
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You guys are the luckiest, I swear to Jove.
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>>1094348
A promotion? I have a feeling Amos is going to be showered in them. This is a actual greenman threat alongside another paladin. Fighting both fronts with a small group and securing some possible intel if Hector lives. We may even save the planet. By the end, he may become a Major himself.
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>>1094366
My luck has been unreal for the last 3 months. I've gotten quads 3 times, trips like 5 and a whole lot of dubs (3 of which were in two posts if you count post time.) I've also rolled natural crits like 10 times.
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>>1094366
JOVE PROTECTS
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>>1094373
Wait, 4 times actually. I forgot about the one I got last thread. Or was it the one before that?
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>>1094366
So I see we went the Doom Route then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK6yzWXm_W8
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>>1094384
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzPpWInAiOg
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Having some internet problems, not sure why. Posting this from my phone.
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>>1094433
Greenmen are trying to keep their war crimes silent
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>>1094433
nice dub dubs
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>>1094445
damn it, a second too slow
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They turn faster than you imagined they could, and bullets spray through the air. There's an ungodly racket of metal pinging off metal, and it fouls the aim of some of your troops...but napalm molotovs in mismatched glass bottles fly in lazy arcs through the air.

Fire floods the bridge the former insurgents are on, carried on a tide of napalm jelly, but these new, armored Qu'liri don't even scream as they burn. They make no sound at all, firing and firing until they are too burned to fight any longer. Wet, black eyes stare at you from behind the visor-like plates covering their faces until they melt and fall to the ground.

“Damn it, Miguel, hold on...” Shao growls, helping Barbossa sit up. He's been rather unlucky, the breastplate of his power armor is riddled with bullet ricochet marks.

“C-Chen...my friend...I always knew I could count on you...” Barbossa smiles. “This is it for me, but please...could you just...my last request...”

“Miguel, no!” Shao shakes him with a complete disregard for actual first aid procedures.

“That fancy sidearm of yours...could I have it? Just until I die? Always I have admired what a handsome weapon it is, if I die and it is mine, perhaps I will have it as I gallop my white stallion across the fields of Elysium. Oh, how grand that would be.” Miguel coughs pathetically into his clenched hand, “Gib it to me plis. That is all I want.”

Shao's sidearm is indeed, tremendously fancy. Gold isn't as ultra-valuable as it used to be, but it's plated in white and yellow gold, with the image of a horse on the grip, masterfully engraved. Chen Shao tearfully extracts it from its holster, and places it in Miguel's hands.

“Perfecto.” Miguel sits up, “Much better, I am rejuvenated! Thank you for the pistol, my true friend.”

“Son of a bitch! It's just until you die, right!?” Shao grabs his autogun and starts beating him with the stock.

“You know, Amos, I think I know what's going on here.” Garret comments, watching the corpses of the former Qu'liri smolder and burn, removing his helmet and getting out a meal bar to munch on. You've all had a busy day, and despite how creepy this place is, stopping for a minute to eat and have some water isn't a terrible idea.

“Spores?” You guess, semi-randomly.

He glares at you, “I swear to Minerva everything Green Man or Avalon related gets boiled down to spores. No, not entirely.”

“Spores are scary.” You point out truthfully, “And they're not acting on their own volition, right?”

He shrugs, “No, I don't think they are...but think. Think harder. What did the Green Men use as foot soldiers?”

>[Well, Amos?]
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>>1094462
>Well normal people who they messed around with their genes and bodies
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>>1094462
Bio weapon platforms. They would use the brains of their followers to be used as footsoldiers in those huge weapon platforms. The clones were officers if I recall.
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>>1094462
I have no idea. Wait, wasn't there something about implanting brains or something? Regular people wouldn't work since they'd have to see a Greenman (and they're also squishy.)

Mass produced plant monsters controlled by Greenman clones?
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Oh, give me a 1d10+11.
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Rolled 5 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1094487
Rollin
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Rolled 8 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1094487
I doubt this roll needs luck more than combat.
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Rolled 8 + 11 (1d10 + 11)

>>1094487
...concern grows
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Rolled 1, 10 = 11 (2d10)

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Rolled 9, 9, 4, 8 = 30 (4d10)

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>>1094508
..did they just try and ambush us again?
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Rolled 4, 4, 10, 1, 6, 6 = 31 (6d10)

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"Some kind of...plant monsters? Genemodded...somethings? No, wait. Bio-weapon platforms, they'd sort of grow the brains and spines of their followers into, uh, into these sort of...you know, like in Space Avengers! They grew them permanently into small bio-armors." You glance sidelong at Garret, and are surprised to see him nod.

"Yeah, that's just it, isn't it? Now the process was never really studied fully, there was a worry that someone might try to repeat it, but doesn't this kind of remind you of it? Willing followers going through some kind of transformation to become these...things?" Garret takes another bite. Then another. He finishes off his meal bar, balls up the wrapper, and tosses it off the catwalk.

“Hey, don't do that. Littering is wrong.” You chastise him.

Garret shrugs, “Fuck this place, it is trash, it deserves trash.”

You sigh, leaning over the edge to watch the bit of litter fall, and what you see makes your eyes widen. You get away from the rail, “GET TO THE DOOR! GET TO THE DOOR!” You grab Garret and Simon and you RUN towards the opposite entrance as a huge, branching, milk-white tentacle rises up slams down on the center of the catwalk, bending it inwards. You keep running, feeling the vibrations through the metal, “GO GO GO GO GO!”

Most of the soldiers break into a sprint, but some are brave enough to turn and take a few shots, trying to hold the tentacle off. Not all of them are lucky. Miguel dances away from it as it lunges at him, and so does O'Neil, but the older recruit who wasn't surprised by secret passages earlier isn't so lucky. He shoves a younger recruit out of the way, and the tentacle wraps around his torso. He struggles, but it's no use as he's hauled inexorably backwards. Instinctively, you turn to go back, drawing your sword, but he violently shakes his head, “Go, sir! For Jove's sake, GO!” He struggles to pull out a grenade as he's yanked over the side and into the dark water below.

[Continued]
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And a couple of 1d10+14s
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094548
Come on luck don't fail me now
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Rolled 8 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094548
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Rolled 7 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1094549
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Rolled 3 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1094548
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Rolled 2 + 16 (1d10 + 16)

>>1094550
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>>1094548
Ahhhh! Bloody set pieces! Why did they eat brunch outside near the water? After the tentacles?! Why did no one think this was a bad idea?! Why are we so stupid?!
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>>1094557

Less brunch and more of a walking meal bar before going back into enclosed corridors with potentially more enemies.
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>>1094568
Still a questionable decision to eat at all in the middle of a building full of evil mindcontroling biological shit with unknown properties.
Or just stopping to have a snack in the middle of a combat mission in general but I put that down to space madness.
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>>1094576
there's such a thing as a cooldown from adrenaline to help people reset from Combat Mode mentally. The human brain goes all kinds of fucked when in high stress combat situations from hormones, adrenaline, etc.

There's definite value in that even in as fucked situation as this was.
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>>1094581
At least we aren't talking about battle boners
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>>1094581
I get that but I imagine thats usually saved for when they are done with combat rather than still in enemy territory, that has one of your oldest and most hated enemies in it, 2 minutes after wasting some fuckers.
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>>1094576
Pretty much. We had to deal with ambush points, crazy powered armor chainsaw maniacs, proto bio-weapon platforms and were in a zone where we know tentacles rise out of the water while pushing forever onward without doing these sort of things while gathering mollies. I swear, when we see four ears, I suggest we cheese the hell out of her and not even give her a damn chance. Bloody Kitty Kong and Space Nam!
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>>1094589
>>1094591

In my defense, and technically Amos', you had stopped moving forward for less than a minute to help get Barbossa back on his feet when you were attacked. It's not like you stopped for a picnic and a nap.

>for when they are done with combat
>being done with combat in here

Uwehehe.
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Up close, the tentacle looks almost soft and feathery, but as more of them wrap around the bridge and yank downwards you see the metal twist. Another recruit loses her footing despite the electromagnets in her boots, and stumbles. She stares at you with panic in her eyes, and despite every instinct you have, you turn back and grab her hand, pulling her back onto her feet.

It's quiet Sergeant O'Neil who saves both your lives. He shoulder-checks you so hard that you hit the railing, still holding onto the recruit, and as the feathery tendrils enfold his entire chest and wrap around his legs, he unshoulders and drops his flamethrower, “Take it! Get out of here!” He pulls out his beam pistol and begins firing wild shots into the tendril as it yanks him along the bending metal catwalk, his boots raising sparks off the metal as he's dragged along despite having the electomagnets on. The tentacle jerks and thrashes, then lifts high and slams down hard on the center of the catwalk. Simon and Garret pull you and the girl to safety just in time, as the bridge breaks beneath the onslaught of the maddened Father of Qu'lir. The tentacles thrash wildly, two of your people in its grip, then sinks back down into the darkness. You're holding onto the flamethrower, which you thrust into the girl's hands.

It still hasn't really hit you that you just lost two people. Two people under your command, at that, people who trusted you, relied on you. You tell yourself that you should not have stopped moving for even a second until you were on the other side of the bridge rather than over the water, but the pragmatic, rational part of your brain vetoes it. Nowhere in here is safe, an ambush would have been just as possible here as there, and despite your power armor and naturally indomitable physique even you're starting to get a little fatigued.

“Amos, this is all my...” Garret starts, and you smack him. Hard.

“No. It isn't.” You realize how hard your voice sounds as your friend stumbles back, Simon catching him. You try to soften your voice, “That thing would have come for us anyway, it's not stupid, and if I hadn't looked over the edge then...” You shudder at the thought, “That was our exit route. We've been cut off. There's no going back now.”
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>>1094609
..you have no idea how much rage I have right now.
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>>1094602
I dont know man, a quick check on google says yank soldiers at least dont eat during combat because they dont have the time or they are too afraid to. Plus what with the whole fight or flight thing they probably arent going to be thinking of food much right now anyway seeing as you stomach sort of just shuts down.

I'd say they probably would have gone on overwatch or something while they help the downed guy but then again, this is an anime game and in the real world you wouldnt be fighting giant fungus anyway.
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>>1094609
Just caught up on and holy fuck
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>>1094618
I don't think overwatch would've helped when the enemy is pulling the ground out from under you and pulling you underwater to your doom
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>>1094626
Underwatch then?
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>>1094618

...Are you the gate starship guy or something?
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>>1094609
So, is there any way to get in contact with Command? Just to let them know what's going on?
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>>1094642
No that dude was dumb. This is just one of those things I was just going to accept as part of the show and not say anything about until someone else said something first.

Taking off the mask bothered me more than anything. I mean its like standing with your back against a window in a horror movie or showing someone a photo of your girl before you go into a fight
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>>1094642
Honestly, with this whole situation, it's the sort where we are trying everything because it's getting worse and worse and only luck is saving us. There is already half bio platforms, the four ears is likely worse, and we are stuck using the lethal part of the system even with our power armor. But the stinger is that it feels that by picking the harder option of non lethal combat on ship, the situation is worse because there is so many of them. Then you giggle and says there is a lot more fighting while not even giving us a chance to withdraw to get aid, because the original mission of actually rescuing people or getting a surrender is fubar if everyone in there is dead or a bioweapon. It feels like there is no upside for all this aside from the glimmer of stabbing a green man personally.
I'm still going to play and do all I can to survive, but damn man. This stings so much and I hope it's worth it.
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>>1094656
Welcome to war
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Game will resume either tomorrow or Saturday, depending on certain circumstances. I'll make the announcement bright and early tomorrow, don't worry.

>>1094653

It is a little bit blase, but then again, that's Garret. If anyone is going to get hungry from shooting people, it would be him. It's my own fault for not emphasizing that this was a "relax for one minute and the monster strikes" situation rather than sitting down and having a proper rest. There's also been rather a lot of walking through empty rooms and corridors that's been fast-forwarded through, and again, I'll keep it in mind to be more explicit with that in the future. Less of a single long, running firefight and more of on-edge tension mixed with intense bursts of violence.

As for eating in combat, MREs require some actual preptime, meal bars really don't.

>showing someone a photo of your girl before you go into a fight

Vowing to propose to her when you get home is even worse.

>>1094645

Yes. That's immediately upcoming. You've been checking in with Nedermeyer every so often, of course, but this is serious time.
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>>1094656
Told you we should have shot those cats.
Also I'm still down to keep going just to make sure they haven't set bombs to prematurely blow the dam or something.
>>1094659
At least its not raining right?
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>>1094663
Why would they though? If they worshiped the bugger, they wouldn't set up such a thing or Liza would tell us. There seems to be no reason whatsoever to continue being down here when I hope the ships are very soon going to show up. Hell, the Pixy has anti personel guns! We could use those so badly! And it's shielded!
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>>1094656
>But the stinger is that it feels that by picking the harder option of non lethal combat on ship, the situation is worse because there is so many of them.

This isn't a video game, more enemies don't spawn in because you spared them in a previous mission. Sure, some of them came back here, but others went HOME. They went back to Innsmouth, or to their villages, two even got recruited into the UJCIDF. If you'd killed them, would negotiating with Hector have been as easy? Would Palmyra have started shooting bridge crew? For that matter, what would the insurgency have said about you killing all of those girls?

> Then you giggle and says there is a lot more fighting while not even giving us a chance to withdraw to get aid

That's not how actual missions work. You don't always get a free plot-mandated pass to GTFO and come back with so many troops that there's no point in rolling (and some of them would probably get killed anyway honestly)

> because the original mission of actually rescuing people or getting a surrender is fubar if everyone in there is dead or a bioweapon.

Your mission was always to secure the dam and wipe out any resistance

> It feels like there is no upside for all this aside from the glimmer of stabbing a green man personally.

Then think harder. You're stopping this thing from doing Jove-knows-what to Jove-knows-how-many innocent people, containing its spread, and giving as much information as you can to your teammates on the surface.

You're up to your hips in creepy shit and you've only lost two people. If you rolled better and spent luck, maybe you would have saved them. So far, you've been incredibly lucky, to the point where Roarke is marrying Clemmy instead of having her as the more psychotic point in a triangle between Bethany Cabot and Hermione Fairchild. If you're getting this upset over taking a few losses for once, take a deep breath and take a break. I won't be offended, and you can keep doing live threads when you've calmed down.
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>>1094668
Because if they see us parked up over the dam they might blow it up to deny it to us? Same reason we couldn't have just sealed the avalonians into the dam and waited originally.
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>>1094668

A Medium-Weight mech isn't exactly going to fit inside a building constructed for humans. Maybe you could shoot holes in the dam, but that might cause Jove-knows-what structural damage.

>>1094663

Shooting them might have made them martyrs, even if what they did was a very foolish, dangerous thing.
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>>1094675
It might have but considering Avalons forces are on a big mad suicide charge right now I dont think it would have made that much of a difference. Maybe Amos wouldnt have looked so cool but thats still acceptable.

Also what would Lost Planet style mechs be? Roadstrikers?
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>>1094672
Yeah, I calmed down a bit. Never been a fan of relying on luck, which is why many of my designs have 'Nope' buttons or means to compensate. Well, another plus side I can see is Hector surviving and we have a name to who sold him the reentry pods. Think that if there is a green man is in the thing, stabbing it will cause the Green Lady to feel it?
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>>1094679

It's difficult to say because it didn't go down that way, but a more widespead and better-armed insurgency with more serious fighters wouldn't be out of the question, nor would having more of them be here at this camp.

It's not like you knew that was going to happen when you did it, anyway.

>Lost Planet

Never seen it. Don't really want to. Going to bed now. I don't know what's wrong with this thread, I've never had so many players arguing with me after I told them no or getting angry at having things go even SLIGHTLY out of favor for them.
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>>1094686
>I've never had so many players arguing with me after I told them no or getting angry at having things go even SLIGHTLY out of favor for them.

Wut? seems like it's just one or two guys.
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>>1094686
Apologies. This has hit a lot of weak spots to me, so I got uppity. In retrospect it's all good, but damned if it kept scaring me. Sorry about that. Have a good sleep.
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>>1094686
I'm not angry or anything, I just enjoy talking about this sort of thing. Shit I would have expected a lot more of our guys to have died by this point.

Lost Planet 1 and 2 (and 3 I suppose) are games from capcom where you fight giant glowing bugs and snow pirates in on foot or in relatively small mechs and everyone wears cool masks. They are pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GLONAJKUjs
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>>1094694
Also, I am incredibly bad with horror movies and games. The worst.
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>>1094462
>“Perfecto.” Miguel sits up, “Much better, I am rejuvenated! Thank you for the pistol, my true friend.”
Was it a try at portuguese? It should be "Perfeito" then... Assuming the BR culture roots things going on.
Wait... You know that we speak portuguese and are usually bad at spanish, right?

>>1094533
I wonder if he made it grow out of their bodies... But it seems more like he created the armors apart and them made them wear it.

>>1094609
This is horrible... Time to start remembering names...

>>1094656
>>1094663

I do not regret picking "Not Lethal" then, it was definitely the best choide in regards to what was happening at that point and we couldn't know that this was going to end so badly, also, there is the fact that there were like just twelve of them here and most seems to be dead by now... There is also the part that I heavily suspect that killing them there would make almost no difference in terms of numbers because of the sheer number of them And how normally a DMs mind works when planning this sort of ecounters.
And don't forget that we lost only 2 People, while shooting them there could have left us with an entire bridge dead.
And In a moral standpoint they didn't had killed anyone until them and were not so much of a threath compared to power armors and our training, so I don't regret giving another chance to a bunch of overgrown teenager girls

>>1094686
Its just two guys, one of them going slightly mad because it touched his weak spots and another who isn't even much serious about it, just doubting himself and other anons for making certain past choices.
>>1094682
>NOPE button
I agree completely with you, and thats why I love missiles so much.

>>1094705
I'm not good with them either, and usually don't like their random edgelord themes, as it seems that most of them are just going for cheap jumpscares and the most edgy plot they can get... And because of some views I have on supernatural things being true.


Also, I just went ice skating do the first time in my life... With trap-friend, one of his olds loves, a very serious /pol/ack and a normie.Good day.
...But then I got home and got bad news about my ex-bestfriend life seeming to go even more downhill.
And this was why I got here too late and went to bed early.
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>>1094775
Damn man you're going full brazilian today. Your english is not on point.
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>>1094777
Nice trips.
And I'm sorry, I woke up and went to the computer as the first thing in the morning... Dind't even had coffee yet.

Could you please correct me? Maybe I could learn a thing or two.
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>>1094782
I'd say just read it again when you wake up more. My own english is hardly great and its the only language I speak.
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>>1094775
It's so strange hearing that it's someone's first time ice skating. But I live in Canada and it's assumed that you learned how as a child.
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>>1094786
Snow and Ice here is very rare even in winter, and only happens in the some high altitude places and a few cities in the south... and I live in Rio, where is sometimes hot even in winter.
But the european weeaboos here will dress up like they are in the middle of a snowstorm anyway if under 20°C... And if the temperature falls under 15°C people here start acting like they are going to freeze to death with the cold weather and be overly dramatic about it, you have no idea of how funny this is.
So we have no tradition of ice skating and indoor rings usually only exist in the bigger cities.So, my parents never actually bothered to take me to one and I sort of just forgot about it until "trap-chan's old love" talked about one of them other day... So yeah, I now that this is very strange, but it was my first time doing that.

Also, my feet hurt, the ice was in a terrible state, and the place was overly expensive... But it was fun nonetheless.

The funny thing was that the place was filled with weeb girls... One of them who was a famous cosplayer that had come from São Paulo to do a "Yuri on Ice" Cosplay here with her friends... Which caused some "cringe weeaboo talk" scenes when they tried to chat while almost losing control on the ice.
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>>1094798
>20°C
Thats a fairly warm
20°C-30°C is summer temp where I live
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>>1094798
>>1094800
Anything over 10°C is a warm day here.
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>>1094798
I would like to see them in -40 weather. That shit is nasty. And trying to talk and skate is difficult on smooth ice let alone rough stuff
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>>1094800
Or summer sometimes reach the 4X°C.
ITS MADNESS!
And in Rio the weather almost never falls under 10°C, last year the minimum temperature was 8,7°C (In the outskirts of the city) and the the last time it fell under 10 was in 2014 when somewhere got 9,4°C.

>>1094803
I pity you, that sounds hard.

>>1094804
The lowest I got was -16°C the only time I went to Canada... And I'm usually okay until -10°C if I'm wearing enough clothes, but people here have almost no resistance to cold at all and would despair and not get out of their beds if under 10°C... Its pretty hilarious when I get to watch it happen.

I have problems with AC though, but that is more about breathing issues.
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>>1094819
Northern Alberta can be a fozen hell in the winter. I don't miss it.
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>>1094819
15°C-10°C is a pleasant Spring or Autumn day
Winters here tend to get -15°C to -25°C
And I live in the mild part of Canada on the West Coast
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>>1094819
I don't know if i could stand that weather. I'm a pale skinned redhead. I used to get blisters from sun burns as a kid.
I'll stick to the 20 degree summers and -10 to -15 winters
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>>1094829
Do you really reach -40°C? Crap, that is VERY nasty.
>>1094832
>15°C-10°C is a pleasant Spring or Autumn day
15~10 is very pleasant indeed, which is why our winter is manageable here, with the other seasons being "a little hot" or "TOO HOT PLEASE HAVE MERCY" to balance it.
There was a reason why the natives didn't wear clotheas afterall.
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>>1094786
Even then, it's not always that simple. I mean, i'm Dutch and i've never skated in my life.

>>1094798
>And if the temperature falls under 15°C people here start acting like they are going to freeze to death with the cold weather

On the one hand, that is hillarious. On the other, i know more then a few people who act like they are being cooked alive when the temperature gets above 25C.
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>>1094842
it can get to -40 in northern Alberta. After -30 it all feels the same. I am happy that i mo lnger live there. What's i am now it is 3 degrees above freezing and raining
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>>1094844
I meant from my point of view it's strange that someone has never been ice skating because it is a common thing for people growing up where I live.
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>>1094844
The sun is my nemesis. It burns me and causes my migrains if I stay under its gaze for too long.
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>>1094841
Hide from the sun, use air conditioners, use as little clothes as possible when not using them for protection from the sun, use sun block and walk with a umbrella in day light.
My mother and my brother are more like my dutch ancestors and suffer more than me in the heat, so they avoid the sun like the plague.
...There was also I time when one of my friends was dating a very pale high born fujoshi, and I discovered that she suvived by using umbrellas on broad day light and being a hikkikomori as much as she could... She also kinda looked like a vampire.

>>1094844
>On the one hand, that is hillarious. On the other, i know more then a few people who act like they are being cooked alive when the temperature gets above 25C.
Laugh at both of them, and don't worry, people tend to adapt to most temperatures after a few days or weeks being exposed to it gradually everyday... If these temperatures aren't extremes, its very rare to find someone tottally okay with 35+ even here, and I doubt that -30 is manageable even after years.

>>1094846
That sounds horrible, does civilization even works under -40? How do you survive that?
Its hot out there at this moment, even more because here is 12:50 and the sun is at its peak, but inside my home its freshy and I'm wearing almost nothing inside in room with a ceiling fan.

>>1094853
Hmmm... How many times to you skate per year? Is it common like soccer here?

>>1094856
You're getting too close of breaching the masquerade my kindred friend, be carefull, the camarilla may be watching us!
>pic related
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>>1094863
>almost nothing while being inside a room with a ceiling fan.*
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>>1094844
The first few days of plus 20°C weather are the worst
Especially when it comes from a sudden heatwave
>>1094863
The cold its self isn't that bad
It's when it starts to snow that everything goes to shit
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>>1094863
I don't skating much anymore. But while growing up I would ice skate at least 3 times month during the winter. And i would play street hockey with rollerblades in the summer
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>>1094775
Sounds more like spanish to me.
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>>1094868
Yeah, snow can suck. I wrenched my knee by slipping on snow when i was clearing my driveway
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>>1094870
Yes, its spanish.
But after the character went "huehuehue" I assumed that he was a br parody... And for some reason a great number of americans believe that we speak spanish.
The problem is: We don't, but most BRs are so full of themselfs that they think that its almost the same thing and that they can improvise with no problem... Creating the abomination we call "Portunhol", its like Engrish, but with BRs trying to speak spanish by faking a stereotyped accent and failing to notice that the two languages are not so simillar as they think.
Its horrible to watch most of times, and even more to me that studied spanish through 4 years... Because I can identify every misunderstanding and random crap they say...

And thats why I avoid having to speak spanish the most I can.
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>>1094846
It never really goes below -10 here but it rains all the time. One summer it rained for over 60 days straight.
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>>1094880
We don't get any kind of weather stability in Newfoundland. Today it is 3 degrees and two days ago it was -10.
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>>1094886
Here is "X Days of heat, then Y days of Rain".
When its hot you feel like a vampire and can't sleep because either you're on the terrible heat or too worried thinking about the size of the eletricity bill that will come by turning on so many fans and acs at the same time.
When its raining you are probably at least without eletricity because of the strong winds of the storms, and if you're poor... Well, maybe you have lost everything to the flood, maybe even your home, if you are not dead by drowning or land slide.

It doesn't help that I live next to a florest that also tends to start burning just from the intensity of the sun.
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>>1094897
no place is perfect
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>>1094919
I dont know, I bet bits of france or that general area are pretty nice all year round.
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>>1094694
>>1094702

No, I owe you two an apology, I've had a bit of a rough week (although it's good for the company) and it's made me a bit sharper than usual. The less lighthearted mood in the quest has contributed to it too.
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>>1095874
Yeah, it is pretty dark compared to the majority of the game, but I'm glad there are no hard feelings. In a weird sort of way, it feels like the climax to the arc. Last bit of Kitty Kongs who have been fighting us all the way, the truth to the earthquakes revealed, and the accumulation of our hard work. If we didn't do this or waited back at base, the fungus would have bio weapons and likely be active itself, alongside Gerin. Hell, it could have been a 2 on 1 at the dam. Now it seems like a way to utterly crush Ford's army's morale. 'Your God is dead, so your suicidal push to get here, killing your own people was for naught.'
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Oh shit, I forgot to announce that, yes, the game WILL be tonight.
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>>1096531
Will you do a new thread this one is practically falling off.
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>>1096597
It's only on page 5.
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>>1096597
Still have 4 days left
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>>1096597
Yeah, it won't fall off. The more likely issue is the site creaking under the massive number of replies. The site isn't really designed for threads with this many replies, and in a few hundred more replies it will start getting pretty buggy.
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“No more mistakes.” You start, when you feel Simon's hand on your shoulder, “From now on, we don't take our eyes off our surroundings.”

“U-um Amos. Stop. Take a breath. If I punch you with these on, it'll really hurt you.” He holds up his spiked gauntlet, “You're doing what you got mad at Garret for. This wasn't your fault, you looked away for one second.” He looks around, in a way that hints at the paranoia you're all feeling, “It...I think it may have been watching. It may have been waiting for that one moment, and then...”

Miguel Barbossa nods, “If anything, I am to blame. I swear on my grandmother's grave, I will avenge Sergeant Humphrey O'Neil and Private Dorcas Brown.”

You use your PC to open up the flight commnet, “Nedermeyer, we've got trouble. Big fucking trouble.”

A familiar, grumpy voice answers you, “What is it, Lieutenant? Nedermeyer's busy, but I'm pleased to say the Suetonius has secured the area. We're arguing about what to do with this thing in the water, whatever sort of Avalonian monster it is that the insurgents dug up.”

“Asphodel?” You ask hesitantly, “Wait, you're in command?”

“Why wouldn't I be?” He snaps, “Captain Rabban of the Cassim's Folly and Captain Clearwater's Cicero are scouring the area to make sure that...that whatever-it-is isn't poking up anywhere else, and we're filling the area with troops and mecha to make sure nothing escapes. What about the insurgents? Your strike team shouldn't have any trouble with their armaments.”

“It's good to be working with you again.” You tell him sincerely, and then you fill him in on what happened. All of it, “...I don't think this thing is Avalonian, it's been here too long, it didn't show any compunction about hurting one of their knights, and the other was on the verge of a mental breakdown.”

“You're probably right. I'm sorry to hear about your losses, Lieutenant. At least they gave their lives fighting, and under the circumstances you're doing remarkably well. As expected of SOUL.” He says the last sentence a touch wryly, self-aware enough to realize the irony when he used to be your first and foremost critic, “What are your coordinates?”

You give them to him, and he clicks his tongue, “I...see. Well, it could be worse. Keep me updated, I'll be on the line."

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You hear the familiar tramp of feet moving in perfect lockstep, and your eyes narrow behind your helmet, “Use the bend in the tunnel, give them hell.” You raise your sword, “Remember who we're doing this for.” You order your remaining troops.

You go through the mob of enemies like a beam saber through a Harpy. The Ma Deuce chews their armor to shreds, autogun fire shreds their flesh, fire purifies the evil that has corrupted their bodies. You don't leave a single one alive, and when you are done you march on over the still-cooling ashes of the fungified Qu'liri.

They try to come at you through the ventilation shafts, and you throw grenades into the pipes and blow them to bits in the confined space, and you march on.

They bring out an anti-mech laser to try and cut you down with, and Garret shoots the gunner and weapon alike to pieces with his ancient machine gun before you all butcher the survivors and march on. It's close, ugly work sometimes, you're forced to go to your sword and knife and your comrades have to fix bayonets more than once, but together you're an unstoppable machine.

At last, though, you see something unusual up ahead. Light. Pale, blue light, radiating down the tunnel. Even without the night vision of your helmets or the luminators you carry or even turning on the emergency lights in here that you suspect there must be a switch for somewhere, you can see.

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You step forth into a massive room ringed with waves of metal. Aside from some solid paths, the floor beneath you is one giant, close-webbed grille of metal. The walls are honeycombed with squares, reminding you of a beehive, and at your feet is a narrow path, one of several leading to a central dais. Off the paths, long, narrow troughs carry water through the room. Much of it drips down to some dark, dank place below, but some of the troughs have been diverted to what's in the center of the chamber.

A great, ivory trunk stretches from the ground to the ceiling above, smooth and almost fleshy. Pale, rippling waves of mossy, scaly fungus coat the ceiling, glowing with a strange bluish-white inner radiance. From the rusty hooks and chains dangling from it, it looks like it was hauled up here through what was once a hole in the center of the room, now plugged and overflowing with the...thing. Nestled among the folds of the fungus on the ceiling are glittering, reddish bulbs, as bright as rubies. One drops as you watch, landing with a squish and spilling blood-red juice over the ground. It reminds you incongruously of some sort of nightmare apple tree.

This impression is especially reinforced by the sight of the girl slumbering peacefully at the foot of the trunk, her chest rising and falling with her steady breaths. As unmistakable as she is, you almost don't recognize her when she looks so tranquil. All of the pain and tension is gone from that face, even the crow's feet around her eyes have mysteriously vanished. Her two tails swish back and forth in her sleep, and her limbs are curled around the mighty chain-axe you last saw in the possession of Hector Van Damme when he boarded the Cicero.

>[Plan?]
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>>1096798
Amos and 2 more mooks go up front and center to distract 'Father'. Best boy and the rest of the mooks provides support with his cannon. Simon will flank and toss the remaining molotovs onto father.
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>>1096798
Do we have any molotovs or chlorine bombs left? Throw all of them. If we don't, shoot the shit out of the tree after everyone sets up around the room.

I'm tempted to say don't shoot four ears, because I wonder what it did to her, and how far the modification goes. Could she actually BE a Paladin now? But I'm betting she can swing that axe around, and that will not be pretty when she does.
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>>1096798
Treat it like the over grown weed it is and engage it with chemical warfare
Aka molotov the shit out of while we still hold the element of surprise
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>>1096798
If the anti mech laser wasn't taken down I'd say shoot the crap out of the tree with that.
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>>1096798
Break into 3 squads, distraction squad (Amos, That girl and some mook), Anti mech laser squad(Miguel,Shao and 2 mooks) and suport fire squad(Garret, Simon and mook).

Start talking before firing, it already have seen us anyway.
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>>1096922
>>1096798
Then go all out with the Laser, Ma deuce and molotovs.
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>>1096809

Where's Dante?

>>1096922

Brazilia please, I told you the laser was shot to bits.
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>>1097004
Oh sorry, so just divide them between Firing squad and distraction squad.
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>>1097004
Somewhere in the seventh circle of hell. Don't ask why.

Also being a tripfag for the tourney
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>>1097008
I don't remember any pilot named Virgil here.
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>>1097011
I think it was one of the later entries, I remember a virgil from the tournament cutoff thread
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>>1097011
It's McClintock. Using this tripfag cuz I'm a lazy bastard to use another trip
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>>1096798
Throw all our firebombs at the tree and have everyone unload on two tails. She's the most hardcore of all the terrorists and was actually trying to kill people
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>>1097027
How do I tripfag?
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You hold up three fingers, point at Garret, and point left, then hold up three more, point at Simon, and point right. Your friends split up, circling around in different directions, each with a pair of troopers, while the odd three out are with you.

“Ah, once again, the silence is broken.” The voice is...strange. Androgynous, high-pitched for a man, low-pitched for a woman, and definitely not Palmyra's own. She barely opens her eyes, her expression unchanging as she lifts to her feet without any apparent effort, resting the axe across her shoulders. She smiles, it's a sweet, sleepy smile, and yawns cutely.

“Whose fault is that?” You ask, hefting your plasma pistol, “Nobody asked you to destroy the lives of all these people.”

“Destroy?” She...it...questions, “I have done no such thing. Everything I have done, from beginning to end, has been for the sake of my beloved Qu'lir.” Palmyra runs a hand along the trunk of the tree, gazing up at it with faint sadness, “Everything. When I came here, so long ago, this world was lifeless, barren. The gaseous mixture of the atmosphere was wrong, you see. Among our fellowship, we world-smiths and species-creators, many doubted that Qu'lir was worth the effort...but I never did. Neither did my dearest friend, one I considered as close as a sister. With the technology we created, sciences mechanical and biological, I made this world anew. I created a paradise filled with species from humanity's homeworld, even those long extinct. A rocky wasteland became a garden under my hands, and I looked upon it, and saw that it was good. Yet, it did not last. I watched my garden, under the CUSS, become a den of twisted evil. I watched offworlders fish my rivers and hunt my raptors, watched them sell their own for profit, alter and breed their own species like a farmer raising pigs. I was angry, but the humans of Qu'lir did not listen to me. Who cares for the scientists when the science is already done? They ignored me, spoke of trade, of numbers, of political concerns.”

The thing that was Palmyra gives a heartfelt smile, “And at last, I understood the growing sentiment among our fellowship. Do you know why Homo sapiens sapiens is alone in its genus? Because it is a species of murderers and cannibals. You slaughtered your own kind, genocided them, raped and murdered until there was nothing left but you, you, you...and we, who you created to be wiser than you, to abhor the violence you created, to love peace and compassion above all else, we finally understood the lesson you sought to teach us. We swallowed our distaste, and did as evolution bade us, for the good of the galaxy, for the good of life. Yet we were merciful fools, we thought if we assumed stewardship of you your species could be permitted to survive. Thus, when we struck at the head of the serpent, at the ruling worlds of the Confederacy of United Star Systems, we assumed that we had made our point."

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>>1097084
>You slaughtered your own kind, genocided them
That is a false accusation and resent that! We bred the Neanderthals out of existence. They became homo sapiens. The ones people had contact with at least. The rest weren't suited to survival and died out.
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>>1097084
"The ends justify the means. How many times have humans made that mistake? Ironic, that you fell to the oldest fallacy of all."
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>>1097082
You type # and some phrase in the name field.
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>>1097084
>>1097131
>"The ends justify the means. How many times have humans made that mistake? Ironic, that you fell to the oldest fallacy of all."
>"And don't even begin with "muh predators", life-forms or no they aren't inteligent as us and can't even be compared to humans... And "You" who? I wasn't even born, and that catgirls you killed had nothing to do with it!".
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>>1097142
Doesn't it have a keyword or something? Should I put it in the options field?
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>>1097163
Well let's see. Phrase in the name field with no space.
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>>1097163
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“So you're saying the ends justified the means?” You question, “How many times has that happened before?”

“They did indeed. The only reason you consider it a fallacy is because it damages the fragile social order your species built. Homo sapiens viridiens is more aware of these so-called necessary illusions than your kind has ever been. The ongoing battle certainly forced an end to internal dissent on the matter. Except, we were wrong. Like a virus that adapts to its cure and emerges in a new, more virulent strain, humanity raged and boiled in a tide of mindless destruction until at last the Solar System rose against us, mimicking our weapons, creating new ones, stooping to any lengths to kill us wherever they found us. Burning. Hacking. Gnawing. Throwing wave upon wave of flesh at us until we were overwhelmed and dragged down one by one. Can you imagine that terror? I hope I have shown you a small taste of it. There was no distinction between talents and classes, warriors were killed as ruthlessly as our great artists and biotechnicians. Lives that burned like stars, that had names only expressable in languages we designed because yours lacked sufficient color and depth to express such detail and shade of emotion, snuffed out by the smallest and most petty of consciousnesses. Disgusting. Vile. Abhorrent...and yet, none of it is your fault. You were born from a savage nature, and so we slew you without rancor, the way you slew the raptors through which I watched your camp. Did you know that one of those girls watched you for hours? Her eyes never closed, I could smell the misery wafting off her. A strange creature.” Palmyra's skin is as pale as paper, much paler than you remember it, and with grace her slender limbs shouldn't allow she twirls her axe around her body, the chain spinning up with an ominous hum.

“Even I, who had never once touched a weapon, fought. I erased the old government of Qu'lir. I created for myself a bio-armor with which to protect the work of my own two hands. I stood ready to defend this world, to be its champion...and then, they came. Three of them, humans from Jupiter."

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>>1097197
>I bet every Genocidal monster thinks they were the oppressed one in there own mind. You did plenty of war crimes and killed almost 2/3 of humanity, after that you can go fuck yourself you insane beanstalk.
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>>1097197
>You're no better than us that you so despised. You robbed us of free will, forced to worship you and your people for no better reason than because you can. You did not intend stewardship, you wanted to be become masters. To be worshiped as benevolent gods instead of the spiteful devils that you are.
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>>1097197
Shit is getting intense.....
So are we about to go toe to toe with an ancient GreenMan scientist that is entombed in what's left of his bio armor and an enthralled Palmyra?
Oh boy
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>>1097275
What do you think are the chances of Palmyra being fireproof now?
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>>1097290
I don't know, but I want to find out
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>>1097197
>Lives that burned like stars, that had names only expressable in languages we designed because yours lacked sufficient color and depth to express such detail and shade of emotion, snuffed out by the smallest and most petty of consciousnesses

Jesus fucking christ. The greenmen are all a bunch of pretentious hipsters.
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"They tore apart my assistants, my followers, and then they reached me.” Her fists clench on the haft of her weapon, and you see thick veins pulsing in her forehead, in her arms, her tails moving with unnatural precision to balance each sway of her small body, “And they broke me. My body was shattered, cast down into the valley, and the tragic man named Floyd Beck rained fire upon me until the very earth I had shaped fell down and covered me like a tomb. That alone kept me alive, my beloved planet saved me, saved what was left of a paralyzed consciousness. I could not move. I could not breathe. There was no way to heal myself, and so...I was forced to make the final sacrifice. My beloved friend, my precious bio-armor, had its form twisted, mutated, altered to become a life-support system. It brought me food, wove itself into my body to keep my heart pumping, did all that I asked of it for the sake of my survival. That took all of our strength, there was nothing we could do but sleep, and dream, and await the changing of the galaxy. I believe I wished for death, but duty still remained. For, you see, I had a revelation. Sentient life was a mistake all along. Intelligence is an unwanted mutation, a flaw, that turns an otherwise ignorable prey-species viral. I realized this truth, that we had been naive to try and control you, that we ourselves did not deserve to survive, as I lay in my tomb like Merlin in his coffin. It was not enough. For life to become gentle and ordely, sentience itself must be obliterated. That is what my sister and her people who act as her arms and legs do not understand. They are following an outdated plan. Still, I am inherently very logical, I realized that all I could do was protect my Qu'lir. I resolved to destroy all sentient life here, then lie in a mindless dream, seeing the sky I built through the eyes of better animals, living out the endless cycle of life and death and ruthlessly destroying any who disturbed the sanctity of my tomb. Only...something changed.”

"What's that?" You're relieved this thing is so unbelievably chatty, all information is good information.

"I sound like a simflick villain, do I not? Ah well, but it feels so good to boast. Alas, Palmyra is no longer capable of speaking to me. She was in so much pain, knew so much doubt and regret. I took that from her, I erased her suffering along with her consciousness, now she is like the others who tasted the flesh of my bio-armor, a...hm, what did you call it? Ah yes. Drones. Bits. Remotes. The man Floyd Beck called his 'Colts', a pun I found utterly reprehensible. What happened was, I realized I did not have to limit myself merely to Qu'lir. I was aware, vaguely, that the Avalonians revered us and had been genemodded to some extent, but ultimately it barely interested me. Until I heard the birth-cries of a bio-armor on Qu'lir."

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>>1097197
>"People can only advance and know the difference between good and evil by having the chance of choosing between them, robbing them of this choice is never ethical or justified even if you are sparing them from terrible ends or evil deeds... And you still think that you have to show us the fear that you felt? You never wondered what WE felt when you spored our worlds and families to death? And you claim to be the oppressed one? You could have killed every corrupt political and government oficial on Jergal without extra casualities if wanted, but instead you decided on killing everyone there without caring by all the innocent lives that would suffer at your hands... So, are you going to fight? You know that it is useless right? Even if you kill everyone of us in this room you are already dead, our allies will not rest until you are reduce to ashes, its just a matter of time."
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>>1097325
This thing really is the fucking Gravemind
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>>1097325
So it's basically the Throrian Creeper but it kills its victims.
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"Abruptly, much that had been unclear before suddenly made sense, things I had dismissed as insignificant, like lingering followers of our truths or the insurgents who found my bio-armor and began to nurture it, snapped into focus. My mind began to wake fully again as my bio-armor reacted to the child's existence. I realized just how irresponsible my kinswoman had been, that she had gifted humans with bio-armor of their own even if it was a weak imitation fused with impure metal. A grave mistake, in my estimation, but a lucky one for me. I could not communicate with the newborn, but far to the south, where some of my birds had flown as part of their migratory patterns...I found Gerin. Still barely a shadow of what it could be, but mature, more stable than the newborn. If only I had known sooner, perhaps I could have used the Berenger instead. Alas, it was so close I could have been finished by now! Gerin's rider knew something strange was going on from the reaction of his bio-armor, but I used parrots as my messengers and summoned him to me. As he worships our kind as gods, he was most eager to comply. I shall use the Gerin to free myself, it shall devour the heart of my armor and become infected by it, born anew as a true steed of my people, and then I shall ride it and the Avalonian starship back to their homeworld. I am sure my arguments will convince my sister of my wisdom, and together we shall set the galaxy back upon its proper course."

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>>1097421
See this is why you can't trust Greenmen
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So to all of the people wondering what exactly the infected were, I hope this answers it. They were drones. Biological, humanoid drones whose controlling mech was the bio-armor buried in the earth.
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>>1097438
This monster isnt even human, of course you cant trust it.
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>>1097456
Sooo... Hivemind zombies, right? Ayup, fire would do. Fire would do nicely.
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>>1097461
The only mistake the humans made was not doing more war crimes to the Greenmen
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>>1097465
Orbital fire. We need to burn the original bioarmour and scour it off the face of this world.
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>>1097421
He's right, he isn't a warrior. If his experiences haven't taught him the value of adaptable humans vs unimaginative thralls, then he's an idiot. There is zero chance that he'll convince the Lady because his ideas are completely suicidal from a strategic perspective.
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>>1097421
Holy fuck
Did they ever pick the wrong planet to build Simon's Not!Paladin on
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>>1097490
I agree with everything here, also:
>"Lets make people even more inteligent and powerfull than us!"
>Proceeds to fail spectacularly

>>1097461
I think that this one has gone even more mad than the rest... But trusting any of them would be stupid after all they did.

>>1097466
What war crimes? They were helping each other to spore everyone to death, no? Does it matter how you kill them? Can you prove that one of them wasn't part of this plan?
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>>1097537

About that. Have you ever noticed how many scientists have jaw-droppingly stupid political opinions despite being very bright people? Intelligence is a lot more complicated than people think. A brain with more processing power, so to speak, can certainly handle more information and draw more accurate results from it...but it can still be wrong. As can you, or Amos, or the Lady, or Trevor Luxol, or anyone else. As for power, as you've seen for yourself what this one's broken mech can do, and what it's capable of after being on life support underground for decades.

Also, please don't nick up as your tourney people without the tourney going on, it's a short step from there to me discovering logs of margarine rugby fetish roleplay between players.
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>>1097580
>logs of margarine rugby fetish roleplay between players
HOW'D YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THAT? WHO TOLD YOU? I BET IT WAS THAT SLUT THUNDER.
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>>1097580
THUNDER YOU SLUT YOU BETRAYED US AGAIN!
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>>1097580
>About that. Have you ever noticed how many scientists have jaw-droppingly stupid political opinions despite being very bright people?
Nah, its the economists that somehow end up liking socialism that confuse me... and the rest of us liberals.
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>>1097586
They learn it wrong in college... If they learned austrian economics they would go full ancap.
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>>1097593
Funny fact: Keynesianistic interference in education here is so strong that they actually teach history wrong on purpose to convice the kids that capitalism is wrong and unchecked will lead us to our doom...
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>>1097619
It isnt exactly wrong. Unchecked capitalism will lead to excessive exploitation of people and local resources.

Like all things, it has to be done in moderation. Tempered by a sense of community and responsibility.
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>>1097619
Kenyesian economics is not socialism, and when properly applied tends to work very well. Obama's commitment to Kenyesian counter cyclical spending is part of why the US weathered the great recession so much better than Europe, which did the opposite. He should have reformed our entitlements at the same time, but expecting that level of foresight out of any US politician is probably asking for too much.
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>>1097421
Please tell me everyone is taking aim actions on this thing. I do not want this monster to get first strike.
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>>1097641
Also, we better be sending this data directly to the ship. This is priority one freaking news.
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>>1097650
Then the Jovians will want him alive so they can experiment on him secretly and create the ultimate mech which we'll fight two arcs later
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“If you're so advanced and intelligent.” You remark, beginning to strongly dislike this creature...that's an understatement, you hated and feared it already, but somehow this unpleasantness is more personal, “Why not just kill all of the corrupt officials in the CUSS and leave the rest?”

Palmyra shrugs. “The entire tree was rotten and needed to be cut down. Even if we absolutely ascertained the virtuous and left them, slaying all others...” That isn't quite what you were suggesting, though, “...What if they became corrupt over time? What if their children were of less excellent moral fiber? We would have to repeat the culling over, and over, and over again. No, our way was the best way.”

“I'm glad we wiped you out.” You remark, your gun poised to fire, “You disgust me in every possible way. Those rebels worshipped you, and you killed them. They died in agony.”

What-Was-Once-Palmyra sighs, and you detect what almost sounds like genuine sorrow in it, “So they did. Their genemods were done by mere humans, not at my hands, they were imperfect and interfered with the process. Thus, some resisted, and doing so drove them mad with pain. I hope you did what I suspect you are best at, and put them out of their misery.”

“And how exactly do you think two Green Men will do better than your entire species did against our might?” You question.

What-Was-Once-Palmyra laughs, it's an oddly masculine laugh, “Poor naive boy, you do not realize how much of what humanity was has been lost as a result of defying us, do you? How weak you are? We, on the other hand, have learned much from you, and can create more of ourselves. We will not take chances this time. Every world you occupy, we will kill utterly, and rebuild from the very first archaebacteria. Peaceful, sustainable ecosystems, knowing neither sentience nor suffering. I hope you're not about to ask me some nonsense about good and evil and the right to choose as though these things actually exist. Pragmatism is nature's law. Defying pragmatism was humanity's sin, that and preying on its own. Deliberate cruelty is utterly inefficient, I try to avoid it whenever possible. Your species delights in it, you even engage in it recreationally with those you call friends. I would ask if you are ashamed of it, but I already know you are not. Although, today, I intend to try it for once. I am always open to new data. After all, if it helps me understand you, then it will help me annihilate your species.”

[Continued]
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>>1097653
Pretty sure of the three ships here, all three are along the lines of 'fuck the greenman, nuclear fire now'. Hell, there are martians here.
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>>1097656
>Peaceful, sustainable ecosystems, knowing neither sentience nor suffering
IanMalcolmChaosTheory.bak
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>>1097656
..So, that tree. Think we should burn it before he finishes his sentence along with his speaker. The ships best be firing at what they can hit too.
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>>1097635
"unchecked" to them is "capitalism will always fail and thats why we need to be as much communistic as possible"... And then they see socialistic keynesianistic approaches (at this point i don't even know if you could call them as that) as a midway possibility who is easier of being accepted by society.

But everything always go more and more into venezula levels of economic interference before someone having to scale it down.

And about excessive esploitation... I'm an ancap, so I think that everything is okay if voluntary and following the natural rights of life, propriety and freedom. Which is different from the corporativist approach that use the force of arms to avoid competition and force people into having to associate with you.

>>1097638
I think that if you analyze well the parts where it does good and where it fails, you'll see that it matches the cicles and consequences as foretold by the austrian economics, thus proving it a more logical and advanced take on this science... And about the socialistic part, it can be used as a starting point to justify a ever growing state that aventually succumbs to its own weight, what helps socialism into bringing their plans into reality.
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>>1097679
There's a reason why mainstream western economics leans heavily towards Keynesian approaches to economics.
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>>1097688
Political interest and Personal gain of those ruling society.
Also, non-widespread info about other functional possibilities, with many people falling into the communistic agenda as if it was the only alternative to what they don't agree with in society.
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>>1097678
but seriously. If this thing is using them as drones, it means there is likely something serving as the controller. With how they mentioned something was dug up, I'm thinking this tree may just be it. Incediary grenades have some good blast radius so we could likely hit the drone and the tree.
Either way, hope everyone's been aiming, readying the first volley, and that our luck is refreshed, because I want to use the excess luck to make sure he's hurt.
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“You realize what's really going to happen now, right?” You question. “I'll give you a hint, it involves a lot of bullets displacing most of your mass.”

What-Was-Once-Palmyra cocks its head to one side, “You mean that your allies have been planting incendiary chemicals in glass bottles around the trunk of this fruiting body and have saved a handful of proper mechanical fragmentation grenades to set them off with? Yes, of course I noticed. What is going to happen now is this, you will in a fit of petty rage destroy this chamber, and what remains of poor Palmyra. Your weapons and armor might be sufficient, and if not, there are many more of you, along with your clumsy metal dolls. Mathematically the improvements I have made to this body, including its adrenaline flow, are insufficient to overcome you all. She is a weak and cracked vessel. Tell me, do you believe my body is in here?”

It pats the trunk behind it with its axe, “Nonsense, this is simply a vehicle to produce drones. You could say that all you have seen and faced so far is merely the left arm of my bio-armor. Nonetheless, enjoy venting your rage upon it. I shall do the same. This is my pledge. I am going to kill you last. I will start with your subordinates, and kill as many as I can before you kill me. Does that sound like fun? Your death is, as I have said, guaranteed in the long run, and I would rather have you broken with regret for those who have died on your behalf than have you meet a heroic end and be remembered as a martyr. For the short time in which there will be people left to remember you.” The creature's voice becomes a growl as it twists and deforms, slick white fungus growing over the skin, growing hard and rigid as it forms into armored plates, eating away at the unnecessary flesh at a tremendous rate.

"You really aren't a warrior, are you?" You tap your PC, "Suetonius, are you getting all this? Got my coordinates?"

"That we do, Lieutenant. That we do." Captain Brian Ernst Asphodel replies with a grin.

>[Roll 1d10+14, in this case you get a +4 bonus for Amos being sneaky and acting on an idea you had besides just burning the tree]
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Rolled 10 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1097703
add 3 luck
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Rolled 7 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1097703
put as much luck into this as we can. save some.
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Rolled 10 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1097703
LETS ROLL!
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>>1097713
>>1097715
>>1097716
The dice gods decided they liked crazy Greeman less than us.
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Rolled 5 + 14 (1d10 + 14)

>>1097703
Add some luck
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>>1097713
Hail TC's murderboner for it is a long harsh master.
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>>1097724
It took 74 threads, but we're finally going to kill a Greenman it feels fucking great
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>>1097733
With 2 more luck we could megacrit the fucker. I am glad I booked it through the cold to see this. Think Wong is laughing hard right now?
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Rolled 8, 10 = 18 (2d10)

>>1097715
>>1097715
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>>1097738
I'd hope so
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>>1097742
Oh dear, you used my roll twice.
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>>1097742
if that was at +10, I think we just landed a hit on the bastard!

>>1097733
>pic related
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>>1097750
It was probably a dodge and then a parry.
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>>1097757
Well, if it is to be for both of our rolls to hit, since he used me twice, perhaps a reroll is in order? Trying to remember if that has happened before though.
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Rolled 7, 7 = 14 (2d10)

>>1097716
>>1097716
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Rolled 4, 3, 3, 3 + 4 = 17 (4d6 + 4)

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Rolled 3, 2, 2, 5, 6, 3, 1, 6, 1, 5 = 34 (10d6)

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>>1097783
If thats a split with luck, we'd be successful for the most part there.
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>>1097787
And those are D6s instead of D10s. Incidiary grenades? 34 damage to all spots and a likely 17 AP damage is pretty good against them.
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The problem with being as intelligent as a Green Man is twofold. First, it's easy to underestimate those around you. Naturally, it was going to realize you were keeping it talking while your people planted napalm grenades on the tree, it would have realized as soon as they started getting away from it...no, as soon as you didn't immediately attack. Why suspect a second bluff from inferior beings? You stayed close enough that it would think it still had a target, too.

The second is that this thing's knowledge of mecha is somewhat limited, apparently, to bio-armors. You're not even sure if it understands the idea that someone other than the owner can pilot a mech. The beam lance of the S-Delphinius, piloted by a melee specialist, tears through the wall and into the soft, yielding flesh of the tree. Plasma flash-fries the fungal flesh, and cracks the glass of the napalm grenades. In the same instant, you attack with a low sweep of the Duchess' sword.

The former Palmyra desperately throws everything it has into blocking your strike, but that pushes it back, and that was just a feint. You sweep your arms around into a textbook high horizontal rather than locking with it, and your slash cuts through its armor and deep into its neck. In the same moment, the napalm explodes, one giant fireball that roasts the puppet from behind, practically hollowing it out. Your power armor goes dark, and you're in rather a lot of pain from the burns you're sure you've acquired...but it was worth it. Just as you expected, the long white tendrils that were whipping up through the grill on the floor to grab at you go up in flames too, fire licking across the ceiling. As the beam lance withdraws from the wall, you see the cross-shaped eyeslit of your mech on the other side.

[Continued]
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>>1097796
>Nice Bakuretsu
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>>1097796
>>1097809
I am so glad to share this moment with everyone, but I have a question. How many stabs with a plasma lance does it take to get to the greenman center of a bioweapon pop?
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Game resumes in an hour so Wong can eat, I held off to get this done.

Nice swordplay, guys. It was closer than it looks, the difference between taking this thing down before it could hurt anyone and having it start chopping people with that axe.
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>>1097815

You'll get to find out soon enough. After all, this was just the part that was making biodrones.
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>>1097823
Indeed. We took out the equivalent of his left arm. So there is still the right one, the torso, and the head.
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>>1097823
Just drop Napalm/Acid/Missiles or something into it, and watch it burn.
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>>1097838
Maybe legs too, but we can't know for sure if the head is really is still there even.

And if everything goes bad we can still just shower it with starship fire.

For know, with if it mostly out of our way, we should at least make sure to take the mechs out of here, at least the Chevaliers, as they can be used for the next step of the plan.
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>>1097679
That does not work. People are dicks. There need to be regulations to prevent people from dumping toxic waste in rivers, or whatever makes them money but screws society over.
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Abolish Cultural Marxism, establish nationwide constitutional carry, those are my two cents. A well-armed society is a polite society, a disarmed society leaves all power of force in the hands of criminals and the state, two entities I trust less than the people.

If I want to do donuts in a tank in front of Obama's house that's my God-given right as an American.
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>>1097871
>If I want to do donuts in a tank in front of Obama's house that's my God-given right as an American.
Hell yeah
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>>1097871
Wouldn't doing donuts in a tank just be spinning in place?
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>>1097843
Sort of the funny thing with this monster; until the Gerin arrives, it's stuck here. Now that we know it exists, what it's capable of, and it's goals, we now have a way to deal with his plans. Gerin charging alone means we can cut it off. Either way, it's plans are sort of screwed right now. Even if it can regenerate, constant CWIS fire and teams just taking shots at it will likely whittle it down. For all intents and purposes, the mission is a success. Still, I want to stab or shoot his core.
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>>1097873
Yes and?
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>>1097873

Yes and?
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>>1097878
>>1097879
Well, whatever floats your boat.
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>>1097847
We have our rules, they are derivated from the big three I listed before, and enforced by mutual contracts over this or by your own force depending on the case.

For example, about the river case, it would be allowed if you are the owner of the entire river and it don't go affecting other peoples proprieties... Should you do it anyway the wronged people would go against you and you would have to pay for the damage caused depending on how much you actually did to them by doing that.
How much you would pay normally depends on the relations between the two sides and the contracts made by them.

>>1097871
>A well-armed society is a polite society, a disarmed society leaves all power of force in the hands of criminals and the state, two entities I trust less than the people.
Reason why the libertarians are getting so numerous here, we learned it the hard way.

>If I want to do donuts in a tank in front of Obama's house that's my God-given right as an American.
Literally every brazilian libertarian I met said similar things... The conservatives here would start to argue about why you can't trust people to have tanks... And military would argue that they should monopolize all tanks because of "national security"And ignore the fact that every smuggler ring and druglord have rocket lauchers and missiles.
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>>1097873
Depends. Are you spinning both treads in opposite directions, or locking one and spinning with the other?

Also isn't spinning in place the entire point of a donut?
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>>1097325
>Merlin in his coffin.

Wasn't Merlin bound into a tree?
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>>1097885
His coffin as in his tree
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>>1097884
Technically the car is revolving around a center point, not spinning. You can't do it in a tank because tanks can't move sideways like a car can.
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>>1097871
The only real solution is to give all the political power to me. I am the only person in the world who can be trusted to rule.
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>>1097879
Hey Wong, a little question:
I know that our tourney characters aren't POV characters so...
... In what perspective will be described the fights? As Roarke watching it? Or changing back and forth between the duelists?
...Can we suggest off-screen stuff in game to not get in the way of your planing? Like "During X, my character would go with Y-senpai to a bar a plan Z"?

I don't remember if I asked this before... But could Akai help karen with the Bushis? She don't have a mother and I think that some time with an friendly older woman could be good for her...Its not like she is spying to discover the secrets of the Kaiser's systems or something... Its not like the fighting system of the Walkure is a bad copy of the Kaiser or something....
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>>1097893
No, I am. Since I don't care about anything and lack any form of emotional bonds, I'm above reproach. My logic is flawless.
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>>1097893
>>1097896
If I give each of you your own absolutistic dominion, would you be cool with it? Or would I regret it?
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>>1097885

Magic coffin was the version I heard, or a cave.

>>1097884

What's important is that you have Initial D blasting from the speakers.

>>1097883

There's been a theory floated over here that has gained some water, recently, that unless something goes very wrong the liberals are basically done. They occupy a lot of influential positions that have turned out to matter a lot less than expected in the internet age, but they've also screwed the pooch HARD with identity politics. They might become a regional party, trying to balance between nationalists and libertarians on the right.

Either way gun control is a dead issue now. Either they keep fighting for it, and keep losing, or they do what the Republicans did with gay marriage and go "not our business~" which I don't think they can do because the anti-gun politicians in congress are a bunch of authoritarian traitors to freedom who deserve to be deported to Somalia.
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>>1097897
You'd probably regret it.
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>>1097897
I dunno, my first action would be to mandate everyone shitpost as much as I do. Do you?
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>>1097900
>Somalia
My personal favorite is Liberia
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>>1097894
>... In what perspective will be described the fights? As Roarke watching it? Or changing back and forth between the duelists?

Third person, like with the Bethany Cabot sections

>...Can we suggest off-screen stuff in game to not get in the way of your planing? Like "During X, my character would go with Y-senpai to a bar a plan Z"?

Yes

>could Akai help Karen with the bushis?

Yes. Karen is DELIGHTED to have someone younger than her to show off to/mentor/spoil. She's never had a little sister (even if Samantha is kind of a big sister to her in the Double Girl Alliance), Avi certainly has never listened to her.

>>1097897

Give them tanks, the problems should sort themselves out.
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>>1097900
>Somalia
>Implying they wouldn't join the pirates and make the place even worse.
KEK
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>>1097900
>>1097904
>Somalia
>Liberia
Pleb taste.
South Sudan.
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>>1097905
If we can suggest actions, I'd really like it if Mai got to go full sperg lord about mobile armor once.
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>>1097900
My problem is Libertarians isn't precisely with the ideology itself, but with the people that allegedly ascribe to it.

Almost every Libertarian I've ever seen or heard is some form of chicken-hawk, usually using it as a paper thin cover to indulge in whatever form of -ism they want. If you try to get them to actually explain the philosophy or how it would work, they blue-screen. This does not inspire confidence in the message.
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>>1097900
No, make them white farmers in Africa. They will be dead within a week.
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>>1097900
>Magic coffin was the version I heard, or a cave.

The version I heard was that his apprentice, Nimue, bound him into a tree. Or trapped him in a crystal cave.
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This Dolores Umbridge look-alike has boasted about wanting to abolish the 2nd Amendment, if she joined the pirates somehow they'd be fighting with horse dildoes and communist slogans within a month, the Japanese fishing boats would wipe them out without our assistance, saving time and money.
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>>1097915
>crystal cave

I remember that series.

>>1097908

Remind me when the time comes, this goes for everyone!
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>>1097905
>Can we suggest off-screen stuff in game to not get in the way of your planing? Like "During X, my character would go with Y-senpai to a bar a plan Z"?

... I kinda want Inari to keep trying to set people up on dates with her youngest daughter.

>"Now dear, this one is very nice, he runs an orphanage."
>"This one has a very puffed up opinion of his mech skills and an unhealthy obsession with 'being the best's but you should be able to rein him in."
>"This one I quite like, he's very well-mannered, although those money issues might become a problem."
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>>1097920
>I remember that series.

Lost Years of Merlin, right?
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>>1097925
I think I read that series. Was pretty good actually
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>>1097909
I can only talked about the people I know/met.
In theory, yes, depeding on how libertarian you are you could use the philosophy to justify the creation of other systems inside of it if they can abide to our laws... That are basically "Don't touch what isn't your if you don't have the permission of the owner" and are enforced by alliances of individuals that agree into mutually protecting themselfs or paying for others to do so.

But most libertarians I know don't go that far into it, they are just normal people who are tired of being steped on by those in power again and again, in a nation in which every president one after the other is always a dissapointment... So they just wanted to live their lives and believe the ethical values of the natural rights, not really caring about profound aspects of administration of everything when there are a great number of leaders and academics who go at lenght about it everyday through the internet.

Think this way: Does the normal citizen of every country have the full knowledge about the laws and regulations that rule them? No, thats why lawyers exist.

...But if you want a simple rundown, ancapism is a political/societal ethical and economic philosofy that use the natural rights of life, propriety and freedom as it pillars as they can be easily proved by logic, and don't care about explaining how you should live, but what forms of interactions and societies are functional and ethical based on these basic pillars... This results in a freemarket society with a horizontal structure of power based on voluntary trades.

I could tak about this per hours covering diverse details and shitting on marxism while doing it, but this is hardly the place to do this, and I don't have much experience of talking about it in english, what means that I need to check what are the official translations to some words and definitions too.
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>>1097909

A lot of libertarians also just want to leave everyone else alone and also be left alone. That's a pretty simple message. I've noticed that the more a group wants to tell other people how to live their lives, the more their philosophy has a cushion of words. Consider how most self-described "anarchists" act, and how despite what should be a simple philosophy they all claim it's very complicated and won't just lead to whoever has the biggest warband being in charge.

>>1097925

That's the one.
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>>1097936
In my experience, most American "Libertarians" are just slightly re-branded fair weather Fascists. The moment they think they have power, they'd do a 180 and start oppressing whatever minority they care to blame for their misfortunes.

The ACTUAL Libertarians have the problem with being lumped into these idiots, and that drags them down more than any possible failing of the ideology itself.
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Much to your surprise, you recognize the pilot who opens the cockpit hatch once the Pumpkinseeds hovering on either side of the S-Delphinius spray extinguishing foam all over the molten rock, to cool it enough for you and your team to be extracted, “I say, now this is the sort of machine I like! A bit too complicated and technical, but I can't argue with the results!” Captain Clearwater announces jovially, “Did we get it? Is it dead?”

“One arm is, I think. We'll explain it again on the way back, now come on, Amos is hurt.” Garret helps you hobble out of the dam. The sunlight is practically blinding, but that golden radiance makes everything okay despite the sting of your incidental burns.

Shock and fatigue make everything a bit of a blur as you're taken back to the top of the dam, spotting rank after rank of soldiers marching in with flamethrowers and autoguns to complete the cleanup. Some have explosives strapped to their backs, you're glad of that. You hope the bombs kill as much of that...thing as possible. Birds are falling from the sky, falling from the trees, and you're sure other animals that were under the influence of the bio-armor's arm are dying too. There might be an ecological crisis in this region, but that's okay, it can be cleaned up. Even the ideas Captain Asphodel is discussing rather frankly with Captain Rabban about flushing the lake with herbicidal chemicals don't seem too extreme right now, as the medics get you out of your armor and start tending to your burns. Yes, you know what kind of damage that will do downstream, but they can make those things to break apart into harmless compounds quickly, and the natural algae that forms the basis of the river's ecosystem will recover in time. Speaking of recovery, your skin is toasted lobster-red in blotches all over (3 damage to each location when all was said and done if the math was correct) but already the gel being spread over your skin is soothing the awful burning. Irina is there, holding your hand, and you drunkenly tell her you love her while she smiles and pets your hair. It's a good feeling, being alive and listening to your allies talk about digging up that self-righteous maniac and finishing off the rest of his bio-armor. Two Green Men existing can't be called a good thing, especially not when it's cost Jovian lives...but at least you'll see the bastard die.

>[Be awake enough to bring up the subject of Irina attending her sister's wedding when you get the chance]
>[Just let her pet you and talk about how brave you are]
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>>1097920
Aye aye. Will need to take a good look at Maxwell's character when we see him. I may Deus Vult if it fits with the orphanage kids as well.
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>>1097958
>[Be awake enough to bring up the subject of Irina attending her sister's wedding when you get the chance]
"So a sort of mythical Martian pilot in a jet that shot pink lasers talked me into getting you to go to Red Siren's wedding."
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>>1097937
>pic related.
>>1097905
>Karen
Thats pretty cute actually... I wonder how she is going to deal with the Storm Dragon shenanigans though.
And if she will get mad if she catches Akai trying to spy on the Kaiser
But Akai is going to try to have Karen spill things by complimenting her and making her boast about her biggest creation first.

>>1097946
That is very sad, most ancaps here don't really like the fascist themes though... but hate commies and some would use any justificative they get to begin the "physical removal"... Problem is, the rest would not let them do it without crime proofs, so they can't start purging on a whim.
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>>1097958
>>[Be awake enough to bring up the subject of Irina attending her sister's wedding when you get the chance]
No better time to bring it up then when we just saved a planet
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>>1097958
>other
Ask her to marry us

Near death encounter, etc.

Then bring up going to auditorium.
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>>1097973
Little far their anon, we haven't been dating that long
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>>1097958
>[Be awake enough to bring up the subject of Irina attending her sister's wedding when you get the chance]
"Also, considering the fact that that Green-man explicitly mentioned your creation, I think your going to get recalled to Sol for a political inquiry anyway. I think getting "kidnapped and later rescued" would be a much less stressful activity.
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>>1097973

Any backers for this?
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>>1097980
I'll go for it. I'm sure it'll be funny.
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>>1097958
>[Be awake enough to bring up the subject of Irina attending her sister's wedding when you get the chance]
Be gentle, explain why, and talk calmly.
One way or another, she is something that needs to be confronted eventually. Either by saying your machine and lover/husband saved a entire planet, or that you made it on your own, you need to let her know all this honestly. If this place has taught us anything, keeping things bottled up and hidden have done little good for those involved.
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>>1097958
>>[Be awake enough to bring up the subject of Irina attending her sister's wedding when you get the chance]
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>>1097980
Ayyye
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>>1097980
I'll support it so long as we talk and explain why we should go as I said here >>1097986
No more secrets.
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>>1097920
Eh, I need to see which way you're going with Alex before I can really say anything.
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>>1097979

Technically the S-Squilla was just constructed by her, and the mandrake was grown by her. The plans for it were handed down by the higher-ups along with the mandate of using Simon. Now, I'm not saying it costs so much because it's a government contract with a designer far enough in the background to not get scolded...


...but it's a possibility. Especially since that mandrake bud ended up SOMEHOW in Bahamutcorp's hands so the Jovian government can't just say "Bucephalus is promising to do it for 75% of the CP."
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>>1097980
Sure
Lets jump this Shark at full speed
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>>1098004
There's going to be SOME form of administrative fallout, and our Waifu was essentially the center of the whole thing. She's going to get called as a witness, if not a defendant.
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>>1097980
Gonna piss in the wind and say no.
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>>1097980
>>>[Be awake enough to bring up the subject of Irina attending her sister's wedding when you get the chance]
Then ask for marrying her
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How long have we known her at this point Wong? Like 4 months?
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>>1098008
Honestly, Fairchild is more likely to be in the line of fire. She did push for it to go straight for live fire and left because something happened to her house. This means taking the Soul Mps and the super huge ship with her when we needed it for dealing with the Gerin. Fairchild may be able to spin it, but Amos has likely made a lot of heads think that maybe HE should be in charge of SOUL instead of her. After all, he's becoming a great leader, a good ace, and has gotten the most results of this war.
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>>1098018
It'd be more likely Stern would get pushed to head SOUL. They probably didn't put him in charge at the beginning because of Fairchild's politicking and the fact he was part of Pekong
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Somewhat late, here's my rebuttle to the Green-mans rant.

“The entire premise of a “Perfect Natural Order” or “Harmony of Animal” is a pipe dream. Ecosystems don’t have an “ideal state”; they reach equilibrium after millennia of trial and error. Darwin has been misinterpreted from the moment he published, and he himself could only begin to grasp the actual truth. The first biological organisms came into existence by mere chance. Everything since has been random mutations and blind luck.

Non-sentient animals are, by definition, incapable of HAVING anything resembling a moral or philosophical standpoints. They simply execute what impulses the process of evolution have instilled in them. Species don’t seek to live in harmony with their neighbors, their only desire is to survive and to successfully propagate the next immediate generation. Trying to ascribe any form of virtue to the process is an exercise in wishful thinking. There is no higher purpose or reason that drives the existence or development of life.

That’s what hurts doesn’t it. There is no higher plan. No reason for things to be what they are. No cosmic ideals to strive for. No great-creator to follow and learn from. No force you can hand over all responsibility over too. You have to do all the hard things yourself, with no great truth or pattern to adhere too. And in it’s absence, you have to make one yourself.

You Green Men, being “superior intelligences”, must get hit particularly hard by this. You, more than any other branch of humanity, see and interpret the universe in terms of patterns. And humans have an unfortunate tendency to see patterns where there is only fluke chance. In your unquenchable desire to finds a reason for why things are, you fell into the same trap that every other form of “natural extremist” across history did. Underneath all of your reasoning and posturing, you’re just yet another cultist that, in the process of trying to understand the why, fell to the temptations of nihilism. Everything you, and your people as a whole, have dones since is just rationalization.

You don’t “understand the natural order”. You just want to drag the rest of us down into oblivion in your misguided attempt to fill the hole in your heart. At this point, talking with you is pointless. You are a scar upon the collective psyche of humanity. The very memory of you taints the entire field of biological sciences and the idea of transhumanism. The sooner your entire species and philosophy is finally obliterated the sooner civilization can get over the trauma of your sins.”
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>>1098022
That is true. Her results have been greatly lacking and the ones who have done the best were A and C who were almost always outside her control. If she screws over the Auction over petty dealings when Mars or even Avalon could get a strangle hold, her support would likely dwindle dramatically. Meanwhile, there is still the people who sold Bahamut corp tech to Avalonians. Getting Hector to confess would be a great idea on that front.
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>>1098039
Speaking of which, how should we deal with hector and his waifu.

Is there guilt by association or are they innocent of war crimes since theres visible proof they fought to contain this shit.

I think there'll be a push to string them up for what happened here.
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>>1098045
Get as much info as possible, then say Hector died from his injuries. Get the pair of them far away under different names and live as farmers. I think they are done with the war.
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>>1098045
Might be able to turn them after this, since we can show them the recording of our conversation with the thing, and that in Jove's experiance, That is what the ladies people were like, and what the lady is probably like
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>>1095874
Man I dont mind, we just went from super robot wars or something to X-COM for a bit.
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You close your eyes. The pain is gone. The sun is golden and bright. The sky is clearing, and it's a beautiful evening. You can't believe how quickly this day has gone by, “Irina...” You mumble.

“I'm right here, right beside you.” She says softly, her fingernails brushing your scalp, “You're so brave, I heard about what happened in there.”

“Some things you've just got to face, you know?” You sigh, it's hard to think right now, “There's no avoiding them.”

“You've got a guilty expression.” She notes, “What did you do?”

“Some Martian ace showed up and helped out during the first part of the operation. She, uh, almost...told people about your sister. I don't think it was intentional, but I sort of agreed to something to shut her up.” You glance nonchalantly away. An angry Irina is scarier than a Green Man.

“What?” Her voice is still calm, but she fires that single syllable out there like a bullet.

“She made a good point, I thought. You can't just hide from her. You're her sister. You should go. If you don't, you'll probably regret it.” You try to sit up a little, wince, and flop back down. You're not in much pain, of course, but it stings a little when you move around and you feel like you don't have a drop of energy left, “Besides...”

“Amos Adventure Wedge...” Irina growls.

“Don't you want to show her what a success you are? So what if she's a showoff? You're the one who isn't a criminal and invented the Pumpkinseed II. Your sister might be marrying the pilot of a Paladin-killer, but you built one yourself. That's just your pre-SOUL work, too. The S-Delphinius is the finest mech in the UJCIDF, and you designed it and built it. You're a success because you worked hard without stealing anything, and I'm proud of you, and you know it.” You can be stubborn too, “No matter what, I'm going. I promised.”

“And what am I going to do if you get kidnapped by those animals? Amos, you...you melonhead!” Irina protests.

[Continued]
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“I'm sure you'll rescue me.” You grin wearily up at her, then add in a whisper, “Besides, that way they have to come to our wedding too, and YOU can show off.”

“O-Our wedding?” Irina's cheeks turn radiant pink, and her scowl vanishes.

“Well, if you'll have a guy like me. I mean, I'm sure you can do better, I'm just a Lieutenant and you're one of Bahamutcorp's best technicians.” You smile wryly, feeling unexpectedly shy.

“Amos...you can't just sneak attack me like that! It's not fair!” She wails, covering her face with her hands.

“There's no such thing as an evenly-matched battlefield.” You quote one of your instructors from the Academy.

“I..I...I'll think about it, alright!? Are you satisfied?” Her lips quiver, “Oh darling, I didn't mean to snap at you when you're hurt. I mean...I just...” Her face is scarlet, “I-I'll think about it. And I mean that. I'm going to give this the proper consideration and think it through rationally. I mean, there are pros and cons. We're still at war, and th-that was hardly a proper proposal and...and...AMOOOOSSSSSS!” She hugs you MUCH too tightly.

“OW IRINA WAIT BURNS BURNS EVERYWHERE NO POUNCING STOP RIGHT NOW!” You protest as she gleefully nuzzles her cheek against you.

War is hell, man.
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Guys, is wong still awake?

>>1098045
>>1098055
>>1098073
We could at least have Hector and Elizabeth for the final battle against Ford, Hector could hold of the Chevaliers while the Dame leads a sniper squadron giving us support... After that they either join or become MIA... But if anyone can persuade the Duke into something, its probably Hector, so we could use that.

...Okay, I admit it, I want to see Ford and x Chevaliers against SOUL C+ Hector & Elizabeth+ Moe, Cesar and Pierre if possible... IT WOULD BE AMAZING!
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>>1098120
>It Ain't Me starts playing
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>>1098120
>>It Ain't Me starts playing
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>>1098122
Does Ford even have chevaliers though? They seem incredibly rare so far, and with his bum rush strategy going poorly since we are hurting the greenman to the point of birds falling out of the sky, I don't think his odds will go well.
Also, herbicide water is likely going to kill off any foot soldier who managed to survive the flood.
Man, we just fucked over their entire plan, haven't we?
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>>1098120
Lt.Amod Adventure Wedge Killed during Recovery by over zealous Girlfriend
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>>1098124
>>1098125
>IT'S FORTUNATE SON YA FILTHY PLEBS!
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>>1098128
It seems like every Paladin as a few, assuming the worse, at least two.
Problem is: He has an entire army, so he could have more chevaliers than normal.

And I doubt that Wong will let it be 3 vs 1 against Ford... I wouldn't be surprised even if he came here with Knights with reinforced armors flying with an Boosterpack.
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>>1098120
Thanks for running Wong, today was legendary, we love you man.
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>>1098141
I'd agree if Liza didn't have one herself. They may have aces, but not necessarily Chevaliers. Likewise, I think Ford is less a case of Quality and more sheer quantity. A bloody tide meant to slaughter and burn.
Besides, the main threat from the Gerin would be if it ate the heart of the greenman.. which is likely being poisoned to hell and back right now. If it's not, then we just napalm the bits that stick out as well. Then when Ford looks at us, going 'the fuck?', we fire all the 'fuck you in particular' missiles from our pumpkinseed IIs.
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>>1098120
So is this the end of the Qu'lir arc, or do we still have the Gerin fight to do?

as much as I like Amos, I'd kind of like to move on
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>>1098165
Gerin fight, the final battle against Avalon for control of the planet, the death of the Father, and what to do with Hector and Dame Weyland
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>>1098165
Gerin and Ford are likely the last battle. He's the only active threat on the planet and the only way for the Greenman to win. He dies and the Father of Qu'lir is toast.. if he isn't dead soon enough due to us poisoning his life support. Green Lady is going to feel that one.
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Is Cross Ange actually good, BR? Apparently it trolled /u/, which is always worth it.
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>>1098175

It would be interesting to see the two Greens interact, because the FoQ and LotW have very, very different philosophies.
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>>1098120
Just caught up finally with the series, gotta say I'm impressed, love the quest, doing a good job.
Though I don't follow much with the extra world building that went on with the community seeing as I was more focussed on catching up than reading all the fluff in between this also includes this borderline DnD system going on with the mechs.
But regardless love your work, love the characters and interactions.
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>>1098188
And at the end of the day I want to incinerate both of them.

Tough break, greenfags. If only they weren't so genocidally shit.
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>>1098202

Don't worry too much about us worldbuilding. We are mostly shooting the breeze over here, passing time whenever Wong is not around. Not to mention that a lot of it is for the tournament, which is probably completely uninteresting to anyone not participating (or at least the mech building, character making aspect of it).

>>1098143
Now that i think of it, BR, have you made some progress on putting those last two entries in the pastebin? or did your sensei break your writing hand?

I'm not trying to annoy you here, i'm just worried that Wong is going to start the tournament without them because they were finished at the nick of time and he pprobably needs some time to prepare.
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>>1098188
Well, mention of her feeling something about her fellows dying means she likely will feel him bite it. Even as a short aside, for her to feel the angry thrashings of the Father as he calls humans insignificant would be neat.
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>>1098275
About this:
I got enough sleep today! YAAAAAAAY!
So it means:
>Birdanon and Gyroanon, please send your finals pastebin, I'll point any simple errors I find and put them in the pastebin.
>Its time Dutch-senpai, send me the F-type in all of its glory!
>Libra-anon.... I feel that I will be able to speak those bizzare greenman languages after revising your ammos... But send the Libra.

>did your sensei break your writing hand?
No, I'm not seriously training since last year I think, but he has become a friend of my clan and appear here sometimes to give tai-chi lessons or do seitai massages on hurt people depending on who is here at the moment...
Ironically, I hurt my writting hand on the ice skatting just after he went home... But I'm writting here anyway.
The is also the part where I tell you about how he likes anime and why I use anime to distract him when he starts scolding me for not training enough... What usually ends with him making me watch an entire season of some shitty shonen anime with him... I guess that nobody goes through war unchanged, but becoming a weeb is new to me.

>>1098184
>Cross Ange
>"Good"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
*heavy breathing*... Hah...Hahaha...Ha...
Well... It isn't "bad", and has a few good designs and interesting elements to it, with a LOT of plot twists in the second half... and even its ecchi shenanigans sometimes have some dark twist to it(Group of lesbians? The head of the harem is rapey with any girl who she finds vulnerable... That moment where she puts the suit for the first time? Its the old suit of the last girl who died...).
And the yuri elements are possible the worst part of it, with them getting screwed again and again because of their shitty emotional shenanigans... It only gets worse when the main villain appears and start seducing every vulnerable and stupid girl(almost of them) by using "muh feelings" tatics that makes you think that he learned it from (((them))) and aded a greenman twist to it.
Its worthy to watch if your time isn't too much precious to you, and will probably be fun... But don't take it too serious as it will get more and more out of control and silly as the plot goes on, not mattering how much it tries to keep that "edgy" theme.
Also, I think that their "Mana windows" are probably very close to what you had in mind for the holocoms of PCs on this quest... But only you can confirm it.

>>1098202
Welcome aboard the Rhinehawk our Kestrelfriend!
So, do you want to join the Tourney? You can probably ask Wong about it... And there is always space on the Kestrel/Avalonian faction!
Also, I have a mecha without pilot that you could use if you wanted to.
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>>1098184
Cross Ange was a mess. It was apparently done by the same guys who did Seed Destiny and Code Geass season 2.

>>1098384
>And the yuri elements are possible the worst part of it, with them getting screwed again and again because of their shitty emotional shenanigans... It only gets worse when the main villain appears and start seducing every vulnerable and stupid girl(almost of them) by using "muh feelings" tatics that makes you think that he learned it from (((them))) and aded a greenman twist to it.

It was more like they plopped a hentai villain into a /u/ mecha show, which is pretty hilarious when you think about it.
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>>1098460
Embryo-sama was not the villain they needed, but the villain they deserved.
Spoiler:
The fact that he is imortal, constantly trolls them and do everything just for the lulz make him the best character in the show in comparison to everyone else... But he is still a retard.
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>>1098523
Why did you had to remind me of him, anon? Now I can't stop wanting to see Not!Embryo doing a special participation in this quest just to troll Fairchild and Bethany with his keikaku shenanigans of plot armor!
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>>1098530
̶B̶e̶a̶t̶r̶i̶x̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶H̶a̶m̶a̶n̶ I mean, Fairchild and Bethany might have a thing for blonde knight types especially those who pilot red mechas, so it'd be amusing to see what would happen.
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>>1098460
Anyone got the "you made us feel bad so you must die" picture?
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>>1098555
Knowing him, he would be some influential type that is rivalizing Fairchild for influence, but instead of getting angry at her he would see it as a game.
... Then he would show up 5min after she appears on Auditorium, troll her in front of Roarke, spoil one of her lesser plans, make Bethany beserk by mentioning shameful things of her past and dissapear before any of them could grab him.
...Then he would proceed to repeat his "shaming a running" tatics again and again until he escapes from auditorium to avoid her blitzkrieg on the colony.

>tfw Embryo tries to make Bethany shoot him in front of Roarke just to force Fairchild to have to stop her.
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>>1098384
http://pastebin.com/edit/sR0KhwEu
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>>1098460
>It was more like they plopped a hentai villain into a /u/ mecha show, which is pretty hilarious when you think about it.

Cross Ange is basically a gender-swap of a traditional dark "real-robot"vs fantasy/horror mecha show combined with a prison show. The /u/ elements were there because of the single sex prison elements.

Embryo was basically a gender-swapped femme fatale dark priestess.

Reverse everyone's genders and you end up with a fairly standard plot line.

> Conceited Prince is discovered to have the rare quality needed to effectively fight against the invaders.
> After failures to adjust and a disastrous first mission where several members of the cast die to show how bad things are. Price starts adjusting and is assigned a super-prototype.
> After a mission where Prince gets shot down, future love interest rescues and helps Prince get back to Unit.
> Prince becomes Ace of the unit and starts getting along with squad.
> After visiting home, the Prince sees the corruption he fails to notice before.
> Twist reveals that invaders are actually humans and Prince and co are actually working for the villains.
> After being betrayed by their former allies. Prince and co end up in Invader's lands and learn the truth behind the attacks and befriend invaders.
> Battles occur and in the end the villain is defeated.
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>>1098663
Isn't seducing lesbians kinda Embryo's thing though? I thought he'd angle for that instead.
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>>1098663
>Fairchild finnaly ambushes Not!Embryo with mooks and starts to explain how she caught him while using a pc to talk to him.
>Mooks have him at gunpoint.
>She asks him to do X and seh will let him leave alive.
>He laughs, explain that he would prefer death instead of losing, and start explaining his master keikaku who would backfire on her if he died.
>Then he points one weapon to his own head start making demands.
>"You're crazy! This doesn't make any sense!' says Fairchild.
>"But who is crazier here? The guy trying to shoot himself? Or the person trying to shot the guy who wants to shoot himself?"
>Space madness intensifies.
>POV character was watching everything.

>>1098750
Not exactly, look at his first apparition on the series, he shows up for "shaming and run" on his ex-lover, and proceeds to troll people again and again when he could have them killed waaaay before... Just for fun.
And about the girls... It seems more like he wanted to laugh at them killing each other, or he would have seduced the dragon girl too.
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>>1098770
forgot pic.
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>>1098770
That is A LOT of Space Madness BR
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>>1098770
I guess that makes sense. Even his attempted seduction/rape of Ange was pretty trollish.
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>>1098705
Good theory... but where did we saw that before?I feel like I'm forgetting something.
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>>1098787
I took it from a code geas abridged series.
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>>1098704
Whats mech is this that it needs such a high level of secrecy?
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>>1098787
Found it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh9MZGAXGEA
2:15
have fun.
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>>1098793
You know, now that I think about it, Axmann from Schwarzesmarken (what Beatrix was from) is also a misplaced hentai villain. Gangbang rape, drugs, and mind breaking; unlike Embryo though, he doesn't have plot powers and it catches up to him in many of the VN routes.
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>>1098818
Can't acess it... What is happening?
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>>1098842
This is true, but Axmann have much more realistic motivations, while Embryo is living for the laughs and repeatly does things that could have him killed just for the fun of it...
...Crap, Embryo is an evil BR!
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>>1098793
Its more a composite of various mecha and sibling genre (i.e. mercenary fighter pilot) tropes rather than a mirror of one specific show.

It is a Case Study mecha series gender-swapped.

Consider how you would have reacted to the Embryo scenes if Embryo was female and was seducing/assaulting male characters.
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>>1098886
I would have thought "Wow, these guys are such cucks, getting used that way by this huge slut."

Would be hoping for an "everyone dies" ending even more, as the characters would be probably even worse.

I don't know if my opinion would change much on this, but would have seen it as more cliché, maybe... But not so much because of the harem thing going on.
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>>1098865
Axmann' motivations just boil down to taking power so he could fuck with people. Unlike the others, he's not really interested in holding back the BETA and just wants to be the king of a sinking ship before bailing.

So they're both doing things for the lulz.
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>>1098963
He kinds of have more care with his life than Embryo though, but I think thats more because of Embryo feeling too secure with his power-level and underestimating his enemies.
Yeah, you have a point here.
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>>1098905

Pretty much. I'm pretty certain that it was supposed to be a deconstruction but was mistaken for a /u/ mecha series.

>But not so much because of the harem thing going on.
I took Zola's harem as being more prison gang than /u/-harem which is probably what confused /u/ the most.
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>>1098991
They're even more similar in the prequel, as one of Axmann's big motivations was to fuck Beatrix and destroy Jurgen.
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>>1098995
I think that you're thinking too much of this show, and that the main idea was just to do some easy fake yuri bait, cheap 3D mecha and a plot that seems complex by having a great number of twists, creating a easy cashgrab that could be milked a little more if it made more success.

But it failed to see its obvious flaws for too long and tried to compensate for it near the ending by stoping to try hard to be serious, what ended up being worse than at least trying.

Could be a lot better if it had better fight plans, took more time to look for plot holes and were at least a little better in writing characters to be more than "This is narcissistic racist prince, This one will be evil succubus lover, this will be prison gang leader, that one is the beta male super soldier...".

Most of the robots are also just "tuned down Villkiss" or "Villkiss with a new color" what makes it even worse.
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>>1099119
>I think that you're thinking too much of this show, and that the main idea was just to do some easy fake yuri bait, cheap 3D mecha and a plot that seems complex by having a great number of twists, creating a easy cashgrab that could be milked a little more if it made more success.

I think with these types of shows, its best to keep the plot simple, but make the characters complex and compelling.
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>>1098384
http://pastebin.com/GUgpExGv

I'm 99% sure everything checks out for the Libra, though.
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>>1099190
You have two left hands. I'm not sure that having two handy weapons on a single arm is legal.
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>>1099456
No reason for it to be illegal. Being handy doesn't necessarily mean its a hand. Nothing says one arm cant have two hands either.
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>>1099528
He has a two handed weapon and his only two arms are on the same hand. Its probably just a typo, but as it stand its technically illegal.
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>>1099660
Maybe he has a left hand on both arms? Like that one guy from jojo.
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What's left in this arc? Killing off the Green Man, then what?
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>>1099697
I guess we have the tourney arc afterwards.
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>>1099660
Yeah, it's a typo that I wont be able to fix until im off work.
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>>1098202

Thank you, it's always nice to hear that!
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>>1098770

Whoa, Brazil, calm the fuck down. There's already someone in this quest who trolls Fairchild nonstop, seduced her waifu, and has ruined her relationships with several women.
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>>1098460
>It was more like they plopped a hentai villain into a /u/ mecha show, which is pretty hilarious when you think about it.
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>>1099945
Hey Wong did you see someone on /m/ got a hold of the Gundam Mekton and is working on translating it?
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>>1099926
He's good at it too. Whens the next thread by the way?
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>>1099945
How mad would you be if I made a knockoff Knuckle Kaiser?
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>>1099119

Here is the pastebin for the Gyrfalcon VII, and of course its pilot.

http://pastebin.com/k7exp8MJ

I double checked all the math, and honestly i could keep tweaking it for another week, but i'm at the point where all i can do is just swap the same 2-3 things around, get unhappy with the result and change them back. It's as ready as it is going to be.

As for the pilot, i could probably write a lot more for him, but i wanted to keep him from getting too complex, or overloading Wong with too much information, especially stuff that probably won't come up anyway.

For instance, i coulld add that he got his piloting and mechanical skills from building and racing cheap alu-fueled rockets across the moon, the modern moonie version of drag racing, only a lot faster, more dangerous and with rickety home-made rocketships.

Or i could tell you that after his first Gyrfalcon was shot down, he wanted to name the second one the Gyrfalcon II and make it a running project, only for the rest of the crew calling him an idiot ( more so than usual) because that is a surefire way to taunt fate and call down bad luck on himself and the machine. So, he painted the name and number on the machine in big, bold letters, to tell fate to do it's worst.
Of course, that one did not last for more then 2 battles, but Micheal survived so it's all good.

But ultimately, how much would that add for what is just meant as a side character?
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>>1099926
I wonder what Clemmy would have turned out like had she not been diverted to be a love interest, considering that the character she was based off of is pretty up their on the psychotic spectrum.
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>>1100201
Wong said she would have ended up getting together with Fairchild and would have likely killed Miles or Richard later down the road
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>>1098384
I'm not sure how I'd even go about designing a mech for the tourney though I'm surprised no ones used Epyon yet.
Though I'm curious about this mech.
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>>1100215
She would have probably have been the most psychotic of the trio, which makes her being the main waifu humorous for me.
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>>1100242
>main waifu
We we're talking about Clemmy not Sam
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>>1100242
>>1100255
>not Grapple-chan
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>>1100178
Dude, use periods instead of commas to denote Decimals.
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>>1100178
Alright, I have no idea what your loadouts are since I HIGHLY doubt you're taking every single one of those guns. Not only would that put you over the CP limit but your Weight would be somewhere in the 40's or 50's.

Making this Pastebin more readable would be really helpful. Use capitalization and denote new weaponry with dashes or something. It's super useful if you show what the Weight and CP costs are at different points in the sheet.
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>>1098995

I think what confused /u/ was lesbian characters being depicted negatively, not being perfect romantic heroes, and a boy winning. /u/ is a weirdly awful board.
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>>1100347

It's pretty simple actually. Obviously, the mounted weapons are permanent features. Beyond that, it can carry one of the two-handed weapons, or two one-handed weapons from the list. For ease of use, i just used the highest possible weight and cp from those combinations for the mech itself.

I see your point about the layout though, it's not well explained. I'll make a new one that's a bit clearer on the subject, but i'll wait to hear BR's opinion on it first.
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>>1100408
/u/ likes submissive, "pure" lesbian romances, like those in Yuru Yuri, not the aggressive form shown in stuff like Queen's Blade, Cross Ange, or Valkyria Drive.
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>>1100454
It's not very simple if you don't outline it. Also, you can only have 4 Loadouts in total, all of which have to list their weapons and attachments.
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>>1099994

Let's say Wednesday.

>>1100178

The cutoff thread has technically passed already, but...hum, how many completely tourney-ready mecha are there so far?
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>>1100535
10 is I think?
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>>1100514
>file deleted
I guess I should have posted my less ecchi but much more lewd /m/ yuri picture.
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>>1100535
15 submitted.
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>>1100201
>>1100215

Put it this way, Clemmy would have been the main melee muscle of the three, and also the most psychotic and murder-happy. It's come up before that Fairchild was basically making her worse at every opportunity.

There was also a planned scene where she catches First Mate offguard and beats the shit out of them to prove she's queen bitch of SOUL B(utcher).
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>>1100535
There's 15 in Brazil's pastebin right now.
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>>1100519
>It's not very simple if you don't outline it.

Ok, fair enough, will do.

>Also, you can only have 4 Loadouts in total, all of which have to list their weapons and attachments.

Honestly, i wasn't really thinking about loadouts when creating the weapons, just making a list of options similar to the standard mecha in the quest (almost half of that list are just bluegill weapons). Beyond the handheld weapons, there are no differing options.

Still, if it's a problem with the rules i could easily limit them to just 4 packages.
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>>1100240

I'm really, really, REALLY strongly against anyone using unique or special mecha I might turn into ingame mecha down the road as the picture for their 140CP tourney grunt mech.

I reserve the right to use whatever pictures I want for anything, and the only reason I switched to the picture McClintock's player wanted that one time was because Io Fleming was, indeed, a better fit.

For the love of god do NOT go Sue with your tourney entrants.
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>>1100454

Use the same layout I do.
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>>1100565
It's to make things easier for Wong. Also, the loadouts reflect the pilots more than the Mechs.
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>>1100535

The first 3 versions were posted in the last thread,
it just took a while untill BR fished out all the minor errors and could put it in the pastebin.

there;s someone else here with in the same situation right now, i think he built a mecha-cassowary or something.
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>>1100571
Hey Wong, odd question but in-setting, how impressive would the Zeta Gundam be?
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>>1100279

This guy gets it.
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I hope the tourney makes people happy, although I worry some characterization might be lost because that's ~15 different pilots and mecha.

>>1100632

Mediumweight with a jet transformation and a mated beam rifle and bayonet, plus the other weapons it has. Zeta is pretty strong, it would be SOUL-worthy from the jet transformation alone.
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>>1100704
Honestly Wong, you've got the writing chops to make it work. But If you really feel it's too much, none of us can fault you for it.
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>>1100727

It's not the number, it's the pace, and some pilots just grab my attention more than others. For example, expect to see a LOT of Katherine.
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>>1100787
Finn's life goal is to get killed so that one less character to worry about
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>>1100787
What pacing issues are you concerned about?
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>>1100571
Oh no no no I never intended to use Epyon god no that gundam is a god among mechs
I was just wondering why it hasn't shown up maybe as Mcallisters mech or something.

But on that note I think I'll just take the mech that Brazillian made.

Though I didn't read too much into the fluff, how do you feel about an Australian Colonial? I'm Aussie he should be an Aussie.
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>>1101006
If you're looking for a mech, you can take any of mine that fit the requirements. I'm cool with it. You'll have to make your own character though.
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>>1098384
Here you go. It's one of the latest models. Just got back from a day of adventure so apologies for the delay. http://pastebin.com/sEaULnez
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>>1101017
What do you have?
Also on a side note what kind of profile would be set for pic related?
If I had to pick a name...Angler series Bahamutcorp
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>>1100787
honestly, some character's fit as main background character's other's don't
other's will be infinitely more interesting by just being themselves. like red having a best friend (that's not in the harem) named katherine is cool
hulk is interesting. i mean who is he?
the one that runs the orphanage
the tiny weeb
the albino frenchmen
those are all i remember.
they give something different and interesting.
other's are just to plain, or not plain enough, and will likely be forgotten
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>>1101165
You may want to OK this with Wong first, just to be sure he'll allow it. I've already entered one mech, after all.

Anyway, there's >>1092924
You'd have to get rid of the Design and Decor and add space efficiency to the gun to make it more effective as a weapon. Or keep it to make it look cool, up to you.

There's also http://pastebin.com/ziLzPs3R but you would have to do a little work on it since it's 1.6 CP too expensive. Pic related

If you were up to doing a bit of work, you could make http://pastebin.com/ziLzPs3R tournament worthy. Adding some missiles or a little beam gun so it can defend itself would work.

All the other one's I've made that could be in the tournament are only on my computer since they overlap too much with the other mechs people have entered.

What do you mean by profile? Servo layout?
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>>1101213
The more I think of it, the more I like the idea of Maxwell making the Green Skull orphans into this sort of incredibly helpful corp of mech pilots who assist in helping the colonies of the belt while chasing away trouble makers in dutchmen. Taking that religious fervor into helping their fellow men and all that with a hearty bit of Deus Vult when needed.
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>>1101250
>Deus Vult
no that's wrong it's
>DEUS VULT
i kinda like that idea. also who are people shiping the miny weeb with? isn't she a little young or am i wrong about her age?
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>>1101413
Templar Mech When?
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>>1101431
i never knew i wanted a literal templar before
but who would he be?
our dad is already dead.
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>>1101431
There's already one mech named the Templar that's going to be in the tournament. I don't know what it looks like though.
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>>1101471
Looks something like this. It's an Avalon knight, but with lighter armour down
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>>1101594
Huh. Cool. I've seen that picture a couple times but it was too similar to another mech I made for me to want to make it.
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>>1101213
I remember the ones you named as well but Alexander, McClintock and Finn are also on there, mainly because of the roles they serve in the tourney. McClintock is the arrogant fighter you want to see lose, Alexander is the sympathetic opponent the MC is conflicted about fighting and Finn is the insane wild card who shakes the entire tourney up.

Admittedly, I'm also looking at this from the perspective where Akai is the MC.
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>>1101659
okay so who are people setting her up with again?
also how old is she, like 14?
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>>1101680
Apparently, people were setting her up with Victor, since they're around the same age(?).
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>>1101706
isn't he like. 30 or something?
that's pedafilic and wrong
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Are there any rules for storing handheld weapons on a mech while they're not in use?
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>>1101738
Victor is the Albino who's 18. Akai is 16.
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>>1101773
>>1101738
Er, Victor is 17.
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>>1101773
oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
so is he from avalon? or is he a covert from in system with a bit of french blood in him?
the second option make's the love story a little less tragic. given that the first means that he's been indoctrinated by a green man(women?)
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>>1101788
His background should be in this paste. Just search his name.
http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS
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>>1101788
http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS

Nope. His machine is just similar to a Knight's.
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>>1101806
i feel so stupid for mixing up things so much
also "friendly nosferatu "
fucking gold
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>>1098818
>>1098849
wait what? sorry only had time to post the link before heading off to work, I'll try it again after fiddling with the paste bin some more...
wait fuck... I opened it in edit mode and didn't save it when I posted that link... no wonder it didn't work...
http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
is should work now.
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>>1101844
I'm the one with the cassowary/secretary bird mech btw.
I did post it in the cut-off thread but it never got picked up....
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>>1101806
he's Avalonian, he is/was part of Lori's retinue.He entered into the tournement to try to create a jovian/avalonian hybrid mech. but he is going to be joining up due to his relationship with Akai
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>>1102090
oh god damn it now i'm confused again
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>>1102170
It's not that complicated.
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Fixed the slight issue with the Libra having two left hands. not sure how taht slipped past me.

>>1100704
Part of the reason why I made Alex as 'blank' as he is is because I didn't want to make a detailed character only for him to either die or fuck off after the tournament. I'd rather give a barebones account on him and let you handle the rest.

That said, I do kind of hope he sticks around, I've grown attached to the Libra, despite how much of a rip-off it is
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I assume Wong was OK with me making this sub-par joke.
http://pastebin.com/0BxVPFJs
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>>1102504
You only counted the hands once.
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>>1102627
Can't even make shitty jokes right.
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>>1102504
>>1102627
Fixed it.
Funny thing is I counted their weight correctly.
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>>1102504
I've decided I did a bad job.
http://pastebin.com/bJYZAwMw
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Sorry guys... I've slept the entire day, I fear that something was wrong with me, but I feel better now.

>>1101431
I've a Prototype Avalonian mech made for mook killing, do you want it? There is also the Elder-1.... But that thing is crazy.

Custom Knight- http://pastebin.com/QACVeehk
Elder-1-http://pastebin.com/tNdU4f1B

>>1102090
Oh, about this... Akai is probably going to get worried about all the "muh honor" thing when the relationship become oficial, and instead of letting Victor risk his honor by abandoning his post... She is going to go fight Lori to have him.
...If Wong is okay with it, I just thought that it would be funny.

>>1101361
This, Roarke wants to have them living normal lives, but Maxwell could at least ask them to help him do repairs and maintenance on the colony... One thing will lead to the other and they end up being the ones to deal with small problems and conflicts when they happen.

>>1100535
There is 18ish mecha, and the Gyrfalcon got in last thread, so he should be okay, I didn't add him because of the small tweaks he had to do.

If it comes to it, can Akai challenge Lori for a duel? She knows that she doesn't have any chance on a mecha combat, but she would probably try to go into a martial arts combat with her if she needed it to have Victor join her.
I know that she has some chance of winning, but even if she loses I'm counting on her crying about her love story and melting Lori's heart in the process... its part of the Keikaku!
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>>1103307
KNIGHT CUSTOM "SPACE VARIANT"
>Pic related
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>>1103307
Aye. Considering the nature of the belt, having pilots and machines that can serve both in and out of combat can help a lot, since it means even supply depos or mining operations have some defenses in case of an enemy attack.
Also, here is the Dutchman F-type if you missed it BR. http://pastebin.com/sEaULnez
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>>1103307
http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
this pastebin should be working now... I still had it in edit mode last time I posted it... This is the M-Sagiser (cassowary mech).

also... random fact I got the mecha name from the secretary bird a large African bird known for stomping snakes to death, its scientific name is Saggitarius Serpentarius so I just mashed it together for Sagiser
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>>1103437
Don't worry guys, I'm already giving a look at both, I read the entire thread before posting.
Dutch-senpai: Yeah you're right, and you know what else could be cool about it? The fact that the ones who continue piloting up to the generation two game will probably become A-crew pilots!
Michaelanon:
>stompings snakes to death
I love you guys, you just don't stop to amaze me with all the types of cool concepts you come up with.

>>1101659
>Admittedly, I'm also looking at this from the perspective where Akai is the MC.
I'm honored to hear this, but it doesn't seem to be what Wong have in mind for the tourney... And I'm okay with it.^^

>>1101788
I wonder who dramatic and tragic this can get, but it more depends on how much freedom Victor has to stop being a Knight.

Also, he doesn't really have to stop being a Knight if Lori just agrees to join the kestrels... And this would be the best result as Akai would feel bad for making him give up on his title and the all the effort/sacrifice he did to get to this point.

...Okay, so best plan is to try to persuade Lori first, then go for the duel if everything else should fail!
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>>1103307
I like the Custom Knight it actually has the aesthetic I had in mind for my mech, a melded balance of ranged and melee options but I assume the picture wouldn't include the sword to the mech would it?

Also wouldn't this mean the pilot would have to be Avalonian? If so I'm tempted to make him like Solaire of Astora
>Praise the Lady!
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>>1103437
>Michaelanon:
??? how'd that nickname come about?

>>1103570
pic related.
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>>1103570
No sword, I tried to get it in but it wasn't worth the price.
Assume that it was lost in combat/testing.

You don't NEED to make an avalonian... But he can be one with you want.

Ah, about Solaire, Cali-kouhai wanted to make a character based on him for the tourney, but he gave up on it... If you want to honor his sacrifice by making his dream real I won't be against it!

I wonder how he will interact with Victor though...
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>>1103626
SORRY, confused your pilot with the Gyrfalcon one!
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>>1103644
all good, was just curious.
Thank you for all your help on this tournament BR.
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>>1103644
akai is a cute
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>>1103634
Hmm perhaps considering I'm sure a fair few folk have made Iron Kestrals or Thunder Dragons or even one of Red Sirens group

So I'm gonna go with one of Countess Kennedy's retinue Solaire type but not overzealous
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>>1103663
Nah, its okay anon, it was a pleasure to help you guys.
But multiple loadouts leave me crazy!
>>1103724
Thank you anon, Akai would be glad to hear it!
But is it more because of the character she is based on? Or in the personality/backstory I made for her?

>>1103904
>Thunder Dragons
You're asking to be exploded...

In fact, Akai is the only Storm Dragon, Victor is the only Knight, and Katherine is teh only... whatever Red Siren's fans call themselfs...

We have no Kestrels between the challengers... But that may be more because of people expecting that at least some of the characters will join the Kestrels anyway, so they focus more other aspects.

Would solaire be okay with Victor "socializing" so much with the pirates or would he go "HERESY!" on him? That could be funny.
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>>1104045
He'd join him in socializing, he figured since his liege lady is doing 'stuff 'n' things' with Roarke he'd may as well make friendly connections with the locals.

Also his name would be Magnarus.
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>>1104055
>Magnarus
Cool name bro.

Oh, don't forget to create a pastebin account to put the Knight and the Magnarus backstory on... You can just copy the mech sheet from my page, its okay.

Can't wait to show you around and bring you two to the best MaidCafe in Auditorium!
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>>1104105
Done I suppose, though I must reiterate I'm not an expert on the side fluff that wasn't explained in the main quest posts.
http://pastebin.com/cfgEhQrX
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>>1100704
My dude doesn't even have a face and thats the way I like it.
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>>1104173
Sorry man, but you can't have Officer Armor in the tournament.
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>>1102504
>not Fist Führer
You had one job anon.
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>>1104173
>>1104184
>Officer Armor
Beta Armor. My bad.
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>>1104184
I didn't design it, BR did, talk to him not me.
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>>1104186
Fist King sounds much cheaper.

My first choice was Lord of Fisting.
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>>1104105
Hey, BR, Inari isn't Martian. She's from Jupiter.
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>>1104193
What about Pugilism Prince?
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>>1104200
That's pretty good.

How bad can we make this though? Boxing Baddie?
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>>1104200
Boxer Baron?
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>>1104184
>Almost on the Tourney
>There is still people repeating the "No Officer Armor" meme
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Already asked Wong, the problem with Beta Amor is that the technology isn't widespread... But the Kestrels and the Avalonian both have it, and while the Kestrels keep it from spreading by restricting it only to officers, the Avalonians can apply it to Knights because of reasons.

Victor also uses it on the templar.
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>>1104204
>>1104206
Striking Sultan for those of the martian persuasion.
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>>1104211
Dukes Duke!
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>>1104208
My bad. I just tune out most things everyone talks about in downtime unless it relates to something I'm doing.

Now that I know about it though, a thread won't go by that I won't mention it. Thanks Brazil.
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>>1104197
Fixing that.
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>>1104211
The Baron of Bash
Famous Fisticuffer
I'm just going to put all these in the paste when I feel like it.
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>>1104214
>>1104224
Clobbering Caliph.
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>>1104228
General Grapple
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>>1103437
i'm done revising it.
>Your base weight is 40.5 not 41.5
>So your Thursters only cost 15CP.
>Your weapons cost 12,84CP each... So 25,68Cp both.
>With your missile pod costing 4,875, your final CP cost ends up being 132.555CP.

I would reccomend Buying 6CP interservo melee link for your feet, 0,5CP on Design&Decor and putting the 0,945CP in the missiles somehow.
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>>1104239
Thumping Tyrant.
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>>1104245
Slugging Sovereign
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>>1104245
Whalloping Warlord
Karate Khan
Suplex Shogun
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>>1104256
Tae Kwon Doge
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>>1104255
>>1104256
Mauling Monarch.
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>>1104261
>>1104260
Poke Pope
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>>1104261
>>1104278
Princess of Pain
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>>1104278
>>1104284
Assault Autocrat.
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>>1104284
>>1104285
Slaughter Saint
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Fist Führer
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>>1104285
>>1104289
Clobbering Commander
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>>1104189
Oh, before I forget, the Lance could be a Drillance now(because of the AP).
Ah, and you probably should choose a name for the Strider.

Also, lets me explain how this mech could work:
As you can see, its beta armor makes him immune to most jovian ranged options, turning you into a great mook killer against Bluegills and Pumpkinseeds I as they will have go melee with you if they want any chance of husting you.
But heres is where the Custom Knight shines the most, Its AP Drillance makes it very lethal to any lesser mechs, while its cannon with a 1KM range can spend two entire turns shooting them before they even get close enough to shoot missiles at you.
...The problem is, your reduced speed will make it impossible to you to give chase to anyone... But you don't need to, as you can outrange most mechs here and will be able to shoot at them for one or two turns before they get to you.
Beware of longranged foes though, as a sniper duel can be as lethal to you as it can be to your enemy, if not more.
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>>1104292
That was my first suggestion
>>1104294
Overwhelming Overlord.
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>>1104292
>>1104294
Commissar CQC
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>>1104312
>>1104313
Lordly Luchador
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>>1104322
Killer Queen! Or king if you want to keep the alliteration going I guess
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>>1104332
Aww that's cheating.
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>>1104335
Fite me.
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>>1104339
I'll bash ye fooking ead in. Swear on me mum.
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>>1104361
I need to go to bed now. This was fun.
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>>1104299

NOTICE ME SEMPAI.

http://pastebin.com/jdPTsT5U

Slightly updated version of the gyrfalcon, i cut down the number of weapons options and divided the last 4 into loadouts, per Mechbay's request. I hope it's all right now.
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>>1104299
I updated the profile if you made any changes to your version of it and I christened it the Excalibur
http://pastebin.com/cfgEhQrX
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>>1103904
Glad to hear that Victor will have a compatriot at his side. Let us engage in jolly COOPERATION with these people.
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>>1104708
>Mag and Vic go for a night on the town in Auditorium
>Pic related is what happens 3 hours later
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>>1104711
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQo1HIcSVtg
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>>1104708
>>1104711
Wait isnt Brazil's space knight hilariously slow? Most mechs can run faster (or at least as fast) as it can fly.
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>>1104217
Thanks.
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>>1104787
the Templar has an MA of 10. he's not the fastest, but he's faster than other knights and can fly
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>>1104795
Yeah but the dude talking about making Solaire was planning to use brazil's space knight design which has 4 MA
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>>1104800
that sounds dangerous
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>>1104805
I see what the problem is, hes only gone and increased the range on the cannon by 300% making it twice as expensive. If he cut that in half he could at least get it to fly as fast as a regular knight can run.
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RIP IBO waifus
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>>1104787
KEK.
it has the normal speed of a Knight... Which mean that it is ridiculous slow.
Howerever!... It can only be outranged by the Wraith and by the sniper configuration of the Libra.

>>1104830
I also made the Lance AP, tuned the armor down to Heavy Striker and gave it officer armor... And removed the ground system of treads and wheels.
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>>1104980
Most people can close the distance from the cannons max range to their own max range in 1 turn, 2 tops. On top of that its not even that accurate, its got a -4 to hit.
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>>1104980
Also normal knights are faster when you consider that they usually move on the ground and keep the thrusters to jumps.
You only need 7.5 CP to get it to fly under its own power anyway. If you cut the range in half and maybe got rid of the storage compartment and shrunk the shield a level you could probably get 400 MA. Maybe without even doing that much depending on how much you save on the ammo.
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>>1104998
Yeah, I know that they can close in, but I'm expecting most to do so, even if it isn't as good at melee as the Templar is, and about the -4... The better a Knight can get is -3 if not applying WA mods to the weapon.

>>1105019
Not in space, and the strategy of this one is more of letting your enemies come to you instead of giving chase to them when they will probably be faster than you anyway, and I don't see how MA8 would be of much help when most mechas would surpass it in speed anyway, what would cause it to be outranged and outspeeded by everyone

But if Solaireanon wants it, I could help him to change the prototype to fit his needs,

>>1105019
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>>1104908
...If I was younger I would probably be crying by now... Seriously, I never thought that "Space mercenary with a space harem" could give space to such feels... S2 is being better than S1 plotwise.
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>>1105092
Consider that if someone with more powerful ranged options decides to just trade shots you would never be able to force them into melee or even run away.
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>>1105113
no mech is perfect. some are tougher, stronger faster. it's all up to Solaire-anon's tastes and preferences
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>>1105141
True. There is also the Tulwar Mod Zero and the Chevalier if he wants other alternate mecha.
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>>1105113
No mech is perfect, this one is weak agaisnt snipers, and can even lose to other ranged mecha in a firefight depending on how things go.
What I could do is to tune its armor down to make the Drillancecannon even more powerfull... But the fact is: This mech is more like a cheaper substitute for the Knight in space than a Officer mech for duels... Notice what I wrote besides its name "The final version should have more 2 reloads and MA8", thats because it would make him to be at the same cost of a normal Knight.

So, even if it loses, it could probably be a good option to adapt Lori's Knights into while they are still in space.

>>1105141
Hey, avalonanon... How do you think that our characters romance should reach its peak? I mean... Who should confess to who? What should lead to that? I know that Wong will decide the details, but he said that we could choose some off-screen actions... And maybe we should think a 2 or 3 events tha would lead to that.

I'm thinking:
>Before Victor's first match, Akai shows up and give him an amulet of good luck "bathed on her own blood"Her own FAKE blood that she made with her special recipe... And a drop of her real blood thatshe put in the mixture because of naruto shenanigans, heartwarming scene making a paralel to the classic scene of "Lady gives Knight her own handkerchief" happen, maybe with "It's not like a like you that way or anything" included.
>After the end of the Tourney, maybe in a after party, maybe during the final battle against Fairchild, the end up talking about the amulet again, maybe with Victor implying that he should return it to her before he goes away or something, then confession happens.
>After conclusion of whatever is going on, Akai decides to bother Lori about it, by fear of either losing Victor or dishonoring win by making him forfeit his title.

What do you think?
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>>1105319
i was going to say it was to anime
but then i remembered who we are talking about
but still, maby a different thing to give. like instead of the blood thing, she just make's him a nice amulet/necklace thing
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>>1105349
I was thinking on a red headband "COLORED BY BLOODMAGIC!" desu.

First idea based on that strip of clothing that pic related is using on his hands.
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>>1105319
yeah. that sounds fun to me.
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>>1105425
Nothing that you would like to suggest or to change, though?
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>>1105436
nothing that comes to mind right now. it's a good reason for Victor to stay around.
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>>1105461
>it's a good reason for Victor to stay around.
Hmmm... I thought that your reason was another....
>pic related

Also, have you already watched Saiki Kusuo? There is a chuuni albino character there that could be a good option for being their son.

Also, his theme music is just perfect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cow70H9671E
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>>1105319
I forgot their wacky roller skates made them so expensive.
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>>1105550
The roller skates cost 15 cp and have 7.5 tons. So when you add up weight reduction, additional thruster costs and the like it goes past 20cp.
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>>1105550
And heavy.

Fun fact: If the Tourney really open up more possibilties of mecha building we will have at least 3 options into which adapt Lori's Knights: Bushi, Excalibur and Templars.
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>>1105514
those other reasons are just wonderful extras. Victor would stay even if she stayed tiny. He was raised better than that
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>>1105570
Best husbando of this tourney.
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>>1105563
Wish there were more options to increase land speed.
>>1105566
You got a link to your big pastebin by the way?
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>>1105591
Yeah, but I'm waiting for Gyrfalcon and M-Sagister fix their mechs before putting the two of them there.
And I'm still counting Libra's ammo configurations.
just noticed that I forgot to post why Gyrfalcon needs to be fixed, crap.

http://pastebin.com/pZtRmbWS

>>1105570
I wonder how many pics of him will be used in this tourney.
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>>1105613
Thanks. I was thinking if I was to do a space knight I would do something like this

Heavy Striker Torso: C/S/K 10, 5 tons
Heavy Striker Head: C/S/K 5, 2.5 tons
Heavy Striker L. Arm: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Left Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Heavy Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Right Hand: 2 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Heavy Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Heavy Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons

Armor: Officer Medium Weight (9 CP, 6 SP, 4 DC, 3.0 tons) on all locations

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Storage Module (1 CP, 1 Space), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP)

Armament: The Knight uses a Mated Cannon and Lance, a hit of 6K to either will destroy both. The CP, Spaces, and Weight listed for either form is shared and not added twice to its cost.
[Handheld] Avalonian Lance (Lance form): WA 0, 6K, 12 CP, 6 Spaces, 3 tons
[Handheld] Avalonian Lance (Beam Cannon form): Range 500 meters, WA +1, 6K, Infinate Ammo, 12 CP, 6 Spaces, 3 tons.
[Arm-Mounted] Medium Shield: DA -2, SP 9, 9 CP, 4.5 tons

Thrusters & Speed: 4 per leg, 5 in the Torso, 1 in the Head allowing it to fly 400 meters per turn or run 200m. 14 CP.
Total weight: 46 Tons.
Total Cost: 139.5 CP

But after typing it out it doesn't really click with me. Maybe you are better off with your setup. I do think the GNX III could be a good look for a more high tech knight though.
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Oh, before I forget, what do you guys think that will be Fairchild's plan on the Auction/Concert/Tourney?

I think that it'll have something to do with using her new pirate fleet to attack auditorium and put the blame on Avalon... And then say that they were just waiting for the Mekong to go away before attacking.

But I doubt that this will be that simple, because I seriously suspect that she plans on getting some justificative to use the Mekong and whatever else she has up her sleeve to attack us personally.

>>1105741
>[Handheld] Avalonian Lance (Lance form): WA 0, 6K, 12 CP, 6 Spaces, 3 tons
For its price it should be AP and Quick.

Also, the full price of this lance should be 26CP fo it being one-handed.

and the final price and weight of this mech should be 156.5CP and 49tons.

It will also get outranged by most ranged mecha and will not be as fast as they are, when its officer armor is already useless against them.

Better at melee, even worse against long range enemies.... and more Expensive than a normal Knight.
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>>1104788
Hey, Inari-sama, could you send me the final version of your pastebin?

is this the right one?
http://pastebin.com/k4QSEazw
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>>1105869
she will try to wreck it. wreck us, have the black op's (if it's even her's) fuck up the colony good and steal the cute french women.
we of course were not counted in to the plan.
because you cant plan for a starwind
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>>1105869
>The CP, Spaces, and Weight listed for either form is shared and not added twice to its cost.
Its literally a regular knight lance but slightly more expensive because beams. In fact its just a slightly faster regular knight without the roller skates and with Beta armor. That said I still dont like it.
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>>1105869
She might use the Slayer to it's fullest to try and wipe out all her enemies, but depending on how things turn out, it could become a case where she goes rogue and everyone counters her. Remember; Fairchild for the most part has been losing power and prestiege like mad. While she did build up SOUL, she did not actually gain glory using her personal units or under her command. I would not be surprised if Garret's bro shows up for the Auction as well. If she is branded a traitor, which is very much possible, chances are any non remote mechs will go against her.
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Also... If I said to you guys that there is a challenger in this Tourney who can deal more damage at melee than the Kaiser itself.... How would you guys react?

http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
12K, AP, quick feet, that will be linked when the anon discover that he still has CP to do it....
This is a monster, WHAT HAVE WE DONE?


>>1105927
>The CP, Spaces, and Weight listed for either form is shared and not added twice to its cost.
Wrong, the initial Knight sheet is full of errors, and we had to go through it multiple times when using mating rules to make tourney mecha...

The Weight must be added, and the total CP cost is 9,6CP for the normal lance.

And about you not liking it... Its probably because it end up being a quite plain mecha design... And thats one of the reasons I didn't risked using the GNX III to my design too, because I thought that Wong could have other plans to it.

If you want a more personalized Knight I would suggest that you think about what will be its role in battle and in what mecha context it was made... For example... What would you make to fight Pumpkinseeds IIs in space?

>>1105918
I'm very curious to see if the challengers will get involved on this, it would be cool if we were divided into small squads fighting officer mechs or hordes of mooks.
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>>1105956
I wasn't too bothered about it anyway, it was just a knight in space to me. Just something to mess around with while I plan my full electricity mech.
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>>1105918
>she will try to wreck it. wreck us, have the black op's (if it's even her's) fuck up the colony good and steal the cute french women.
Its already pretty much confirmed that the "Avalonian terrorists" are other inside job made by her, as they bombed people that were "inconvenient"to her plans... But the "Take our french women" part made me laugh just by imagining it.
>>1105941
>She might use the Slayer to it's fullest to try and wipe out all her enemies,
This is too vague... What do you mean? Planting bombs? Get inside the colony unseen and start stomping on everyone she dislikes?

>If she is branded a traitor, which is very much possible, chances are any non remote mechs will go against her.
Thats why she will probably use the "Avalonian" fleet against us and blame it on them...
But would she let the opportunity of using the Mekong just pass? I don't think so, so there is the chance that she will try to get a justificative on shooting us or will try to get the Mekong dominated by her black ops group and lead them under the guise of being a prisioner.
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>>1105956

Hey BR, if you still have points for improvement on the Gyrfalcon, could you post them? I have a few hours to work on it, hopefully i can get it finished and into the pastebin today.
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>>1106027
Okay, give me one hour or so.
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>>1106023
The remote system we've seen in the Slayer. It allows Cabot to use machines without being in them so having a fleet of them would be possible. As for Avalonian Fleet? Last I check it's only the Duke's ship left and if he's docked or not in combat, then any threat becomes pointless. Likewise, the Jaburo and Calif are on auditorium along with any other personel. If she strikes first with all these people, she basically just shredded any alliance Jove had with the rest of the league if they keep her. Even if she was a prisoner, she would have ruined diplomacy for her entire group and made their bargaining position worse with Mars and the Belt.
If she outright attacks first, it will be of her own interest and thus cause things to spiral out of control for her.
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>>1106027
>-Rail rifle (handheld): range 350, long range, WA 0, 6K, 10 rounds +3 reloads, 11,6 cp, 8 spaces, 4,2 tons
This is so wrong that I can't even begin to guess what it should even be... Is this a projectile Weapon? Or Maybe a Beam Weapon with limited ammo?
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My asshole lightning machine is complete and quite a bit less expensive than anticipated. http://pastebin.com/PYBz8aJ2

Now to see how much of it I could fit into a 140 CP limit.
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>>1106069
Hmmm... I think I wasn't very clear...
With "Avalonian fleet" I meant the pirate group that she is using for black ops at this moment, the guys who were bombing colonies and killing people on Fairchild's way while blamming it on Avalon.... Thats what I think she will use, a fleet of... I think it was five ships?... with Avalonian flags to attack Auditorium.

The Mekong and prisioner thing is just a theory for now... But I think that its possible that she would cause a situation in where the "Avalonian Terrorists" would "capture" the Mekong and use it against Auditorium, this would be hard to pull off but I'm not putting it off the table when we are talking about Fairchild... Then she could hop into a officer mech and lead them to fight Roarke, using the fact that no one can prove who is piloting that mech to escape being blamed for it.

And thats if she is not using the drone system to pilot it from a safe distance.
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>>1106154
Except we can prove it. Both drones had mechanical pods with no pilots inside. One likely less damaged than the other, but both work for this. It's certainly tech that needs to be looked at both to figure out and counter. As for that fleet.. that also requires Duke to not be right there. If he tells them to stand down and they don't, or he used some sort of phrase to prevent shit like this(which is likely since he has been shown to be pretty smart), then that plan is also shot. Afterall, why would the Duke wreck his chances if things are looking good? It makes no sense.
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>>1106069
No, he still has 3 ships left. Each of them is a match or more for a Wels class.
>>1106154
There is no real evidence that the Avalonian hijacking didn't actually happen
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>>1106246
Except the fact that they are literally being used to bomb Fairchild's enemies.
Seriously? Are you going to blame this on a coincidence? When she literally said that she was going to get rid of those families the session before?
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>>1106093

Projectile weapon.

I'll check my notes, work oot hwere the problem is.

Projectile weapon

6k = 6k damage and structure, 350 range, 6 cp and space.

Long range = weapon can fire at long range, 6*1,33=8, so 8 cp and space

weapon holds 10 rounds of ammo, adding 10% to cp, space and structural kills , meaning that cp and space are now 8,8, and the sturctural kills are now 6,6, giving a weight of 3,3 tons.

Space effficiency is applied to reduce the space to 8, increasing cp by 0,4 to 9,2. final stats of the gun are then 8 spaces, 9,2 cp and 3,3 tons of weight.

then we get to the reloads, which takes no weight (due to being external), but do cost cp and have weight. 30 rounds of ammunition cost 8*0,3=2,4 cp, and have 6*0,3=1,8 structural kills, giving 0,9 tons of weight.

In total, that makes 11,6 cp, 4,2 tons of weight, and it takes 8 spaces in total.

So yeah, i may have forgotten to add the -2 accuracy to the stats. And it might have been easier if i just wrote down "range 2450" rather than "range 350, long range". Mea Culpa on that one.
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>>1106317
Space efficiency is 0.5 CP for one space, not 0.4.
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>>1106227
She could be planning on killing him first, or saying that the Avalonians gave up on waiting when they thought that they were going to lose the auction anyway and decided on attacking Auditorium.
We could stream the negotiations on open television to avoid this... But it wouldn't be a good idea I think.

>If he tells them to stand down and they don't, or he used some sort of phrase to prevent shit like this(which is likely since he has been shown to be pretty smart), then that plan is also shot.
She could justify it on being all a plan made by greenman fanatics into manipulating them to believe otherwise by faking a false attack.
and what did you mean with using some sort of Phrase to prevent this? You mean the mind control he used on Naomi?
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>>1106267
>Seriously? Are you going to blame this on a coincidence? When she literally said that she was going to get rid of those families the session before?
No. The bombings and the hijackings are two separate events. Its entirely possible that he hijackings actually happened, and the bombs were just taking advantage of it to accomplish something they already wanted to do.
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>>1105092
>Solaireanon
Fuck it that's my name from now on I'm namefagging!
But in all seriousness, if it is possible to upgrade him to make the Excalibur more logically equipped for the tournament I'd appreciate it, sadly I'm no good at this system the mechs currently have, I would appreciate the help.

>Pic related is Magnarus
>Praise the lady and her flowers.
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>>1106345

It's being reduced by 0,8 spaces. Since reducing 1 space costs 0,5 cp, reducing by 0,8 spaces costs 0,4 cp.
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>>1106396
That's not how it works. It's 0.5 CP for 1 space, not half of however many spaces you want to reduce.

You can ask Wong if it's OK, be in all likely hood he's going to say round fractional spaces up.
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>>1106384
If I'm not mistaken, the same ships that were hijacked were the ones being used to bomb the colonies.
What makes sense, as they don't have an Avalonian ship to use for it, so the only way they could blame this on Avalon would be by faking a hijack and then using the "lost ships" to do it.

>>1106403
Man... We've been doing it for a while now, and the only thing he said to round (up or down depending on the number) was thrusters.
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>>1106410
Has anyone asked him about rounding spaces?
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>>1105912
Here's the most up-to-date version I can possibly get you: http://pastebin.com/SFvePpV4
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>>1106392
god damn it we have another avalon lover
we need a new independent belt and jovian person or i'll have to join thunder against you guy's
i just want to be neutral on my little ring of rocks dammit
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>>1106429
dude. Victor is leaving Avalon and joining the kestrels
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>>1106468
and?
br is a kestrel
still want's to ally with avalon
you know, the giant group of green man cultist's
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>>1106429
Magnarus goes where Kennedy goes and since your boss is waifuing his boss he's gonna stick around, we'll just see what happens with what shit fairchild is gonna pull where Kennedy is concerned.
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>>1106500
GREENMAN. CULTIST.
i'm ok with kennedy, because she will never go near the lady again if i have a opinion about it. and mister mag is ok to. any one else who has gone even less then month would have there head open to see how to reverse her bullshit
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>>1106392
That seriously depends on what do you plan on doing with your mech.

For example, I could make your mech look even more like the Templar by making the armor o down one level and using the points to make it faster and turning the lance even more lethal....

Or maybe I could give your ammo AP or Incendiary...

Or I could make the shield better, or I could make the shield smaller to get even more points...

Or I could give longrange to your weapon and make it WA 0 again....

There is all sorts of possibilities, it depends on your fighting style and balancing it to what you expect from your enemies.

...Is Magnus Albino too? Are you and Victor cousins or something?

>>1106419
I don't remember... But rounding up would make our possibilities with mechas inside the 140CP even smaller... Remember that mecha you made that went 1.6CP over the limit? That sort of things can be avoided when you take decimals(and maybe centesimals) into consideration when calculating things.

>>1106429
We're Kestrels first Avalon second, we want a true neutral belt where anyone, jovian, avalonian, martian and god-knows-what-else can live on the belt without being persecuted for the gods he follow or the people he associates too(within the limits of the law)... And where the Starwinds can make economic alliances with anyone they want without worrying about having to obey the SSL or whatever tries to nuke us next.

And do you really want to be the jovians's dog? Don't you see how their govern is corrupt up to obcene levels? Do you think that Fairchild is the only wrong thing within it? Think again, Fairchild is a sympton, not the cause of this sickness that plagues the jovian soul!

...And We of the Kestrel/Avalonian faction are neutral with the lady and will have her pay for her crimes when the time comes, and at least deposed by her position of power.

We also may have to protect the monarchy by killing a few nobles depending on who should be in power based on the sucession of power and that situation of Narns x Elves.... But we're going to worry about it later.

And even Magnus who is the more religious here seems to be more loyal to Lady kennedy than to the Lady.
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>>1106516
that's if the lady can even use those creepy spores
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>>1106533
I'm going to wait to see what Wong says then. And I'm not saying round everything, just spaces. It makes things easier. I've made weapons with decimals before.

I don't see how not rounding spaces will change things as drastically as you say though, space efficiency will always be 0.5 CP. It would only add 0.1 CP to the guy's mech.
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>>1106533
ok, i went a bit stupid there. i admit
if a avalonian wanted to join us i'm ok with it
but not if it's a sleeper agent of the green man.
i like bio armor and cloning and gene altering,
but not when it's done in a religious way like they do
the avalon's also set off my religious bullshit meter as well.
overall i think the two factions could be ally's
if it weren't for the lady i would support the avalonians wholeheartedly and have voted to join them when we could.
also ya the jovians aren't any better, i'm honestly surprised the gov. has any power at all, what with the mega corps being so big and rich.
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>>1106533
Where mag is concerned, no he's just really blonde hair, it's called Platinum Blonde I believe.
Also he's religious but he's not incredibly pious he believes her more as a spiritual god than a physical being believing in her and her lessons but doesn't believe in converting or forcing his views on others.
He'd 'Allah Akbar' like a Muslim but he won't 'Jihad' like one.

Where the Excalibur is concerned I think taking the Armour down is probably alright I suppose considering the kind of mechs in the tournament I don't think there are many mook mechs like bluegills or pumpkin seeds, I think speed and a more lethal weapon will be Mag's best ally

On the note of the lady, my opinion is that either she's pulling the biggest ruse cruise in the galaxy or she's trying to turn over a new leaf...Figuratively speaking.
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>>1106617
>turn over a new leaf
i really wish she was
and if you look at the war in the avalonian point of view
stopping the cuss substitute from be the cuss again, ie giant, inflated, greedy and loving slavery. she has
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>>1106574

1. No, it would add quite a bit more, since space efficiency is one of those things that get used a lot. Suddenly rounding up all space efficiency would mean going back to square one. And half the standing roster for the tournament as well, i imagine.

2. "It makes things easier" is a load of bullshit, since most of the complexity in a weapons cost tends to come from the multipliers involved (or even worse, ammo). Only using half cp's for space efficiency does very little.

3. Why would we? it's not a rule by RAW, and certainly not something Wong brought up. You don't get to make houserules and force them on the quest.
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>people are shipping their side characters together

The Space Jam was a mistake.
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>>1106617
>>1106591
>>1106534
>>1106533
you know, it may be a good idea to set up a Discord chat or something. just saying, remember too many namefags never ends well
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>>1106694
we'll make anime real again!
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>>1106591
>also ya the jovians aren't any better, i'm honestly surprised the gov. has any power at all, what with the mega corps being so big and rich.
Common error... The Jovians and their corps aren't really capitalists with "unchecked capitalism" as their problem, they're corporativists... With means that the biggest and more powerfull individuals and institutions ally themselfs with the members of the government to keep their power by creating difficulties to everyone else... Just look at the EU and you will notice that most of their bullshit rules and regulations are created just to make it more and more harder to the smaller enterprises and stores, removing the competition of the biggest corporations.

Here in Brazil we have this problem up to 11, with it being common knowledge to the middle and higher levels of the population that the political classes gain most of their money by creating difficulties to everyone in the economical level and selling exemptions to taxes and regulations to those who agree in financing them... And thats why creating jobs and being a businessman here is so difficult isn't you're not filthy rich from the begining, as your expenses are usually triplicated by taxes and regulations... Why the old money families and the friends of the current politicians don't have to deal with this crap or just begin with so much more estructural advantage than you that they don't care on paying it if they can monopolise their respective markets.

>>1106617
>On the note of the lady, my opinion is that either she's pulling the biggest ruse cruise in the galaxy or she's trying to turn over a new leaf...Figuratively speaking.

The problem is... Does it even matter now? Even if she changed her ways do you think that Thunder would care? Why should them stop from making her pay for anything she had done in the war?

And even if someone tries to defend her... Don't you think that the rest would just blame this on spores anyway?
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>>1106694
Just wait for Wong to come in and tell them all to rein it in
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>>1106720
yea, this is getting confusing as hell and a little bit out of hand
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>>1106699
I thought about it... But that would probably end in completely killing the banter here most of time.

And about the namefags... People are just doing this while the Tourney goes on, after this most will just go back into anonimity.

>>1106694
Wong gave us his blessing, I was just kidding before it... But I decided to roll along with it when he said that he assumed that it was already official.

and the Katherine x Alexander wasn't my fault, I blame it on Inari-sama playing matchmaker with the two of them.
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>>1106720
he has to do that a lot.
>>1106718
that were we come in, with a big fancy (small but allied) group of corps. of our own to compete with them. AND we will let little business become a thing again, since it's apparently not, or at least not for long(get's bought out and destroyed)
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>>1106720
we keep it down during game time. this is just fun while wait for the next session. It's a nice little distraction from that existential dread about the eventual heat death of the universe
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>>1106747
make it a lot easier for mech design though with no captcha or post timer
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>>1106736
The good thing about this is that none of it is canon, and Wong is free to interpret things as he wants for ease of writing
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>>1106759
Exactly, so its not like I'm forcing something into cannon, we just throw a thousand Ideas and he choses what to do with them... Or just ignore it completely.
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>>1106694
As far as I know, Wong was perfectly okay with shipping Victor and Akai and was the one who started shipping Kathrine and Alexander.
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>>1106667
Dude what? Have you read the book? It literally says Space Efficiency (Cost=0.5CP per Space) and nowhere says space efficiency is half the amount of space you want to remove.

>1
Excuse me, it would at most add .45CP for the one space that's not even. Unless you're doing half of two or more decimals, in which case you're just making calculating things even more complicated than multipliers or ammo.

>2
That was in reference to space efficiency being a fixed amount. You don't have to bother with tracking fractional spaces. It doesn't help much, true, but it does help.

>3
So you're saying there's no way to tell which interpretation is correct because neither are rule by RAW, so both are houserules?
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>>1106747

>>1106317

But anyway, like you said. the rifle was incorrectly statted, that's fixed now. Also, i cut down the number of available weapons and divided them into loadouts, per mechbay's request.

Is there anything else you would like to see changed?
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>>1106500
From where is this character on which you are basing Magnarus appearance?
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>>1106718
Nothing matters anymore
>>1106821
Gawain from the Fate Series
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>>1106747
I'm just wary of fan character shipping in general, since I've stared into that particular abyss before
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>>1106410
>If I'm not mistaken, the same ships that were hijacked were the ones being used to bomb the colonies.
No, the bombings were classic terrorist attacks with jovian military explosives. They weren't ship attacks at all.
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>>1106819
The ammo weight isn't based on the weapons kills, but in the ammos cost.

Your weight of the weapon should be 3.4 tons and then 1.2 tons if I'm not mistaken.

And it has been some time since the last time I was making a projectile weapon... But where does it states that the clips don't have weight if they are reloads? the paragraph mentioning this says something along "The clips themselfs don't have weight per se because the weight is based on the shots" what seems to imply that they still weight anyway.

And about other things... I got distracted by the conversation here and some things in my home, but I'm almost done with it, I will post a final avaliation soon.

>>1106849
Hmmm... I understand from where you probably got that if the stories about planefag and the other quest with Sleepyanon are any indicative of this.... But don't worry, I don't expect them to get any more attention than what they would already get, so if they are married or not it shouldn't make them get more screen time just because of it.

...I'm with a strange feeling that Wong is planning to use possible descendants from tourney challengers for side characters in the gen 2 game if his blessings over this are any indicative... But I don't think that they will steal the spotlight just because of it anyway.

>>1106879
Interesting, this could mean that if Avalon did hijack those ships they can be expecting to use them as payment for Lori, and that we don't have to worry about another fleet of Not!Corsairs attacking us again.

What start another big question... how will Fairchild justify opening fire on us?
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>>1106903
>how will Fairchild justify opening fire on us?
the same way that she became a general.
lie's and slander
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>>1106849
that gif..I can't stop laughing
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>>1106903

they do have weight, which is why i calculated their weight in that post. They do not, however, take spaces, since they are external.

Yes i fucked up writing that, it's been a while since i slept.

>The ammo weight isn't based on the weapons kills, but in the ammos cost.
>check the ATM.

It's based on the weapons cost. Well, FUCK. This is going to take some time.

feel free to post the rest of your stuff when you're rready, i'll be working on it for a little longer and then i'm going to get some sleep.
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>>1106903
>Interesting, this could mean that if Avalon did hijack those ships they can be expecting to use them as payment for Lori, and that we don't have to worry about another fleet of Not!Corsairs attacking us again.
Huh, I didn't consider that. They may also have simply been trying to replenish their forces. Here are the logs:
>“...Recent terrorist attacks on Europa have been conclusively linked to Avalon, although the rebel nation still has yet to take credit for the dozen cowardly bombings at primary Europan colonies. The locations seem to have been targets of opportunity, shuttleports, civilian residences, museums, and factories have all been attacked. The perpetrators remain at large.”
>“...Sources from the UJCIDF's intelligence division reveal that the materials for these bombs likely came from the recent Avalonian raid on the base at 10-Cleo. Survivors reveal that at least two Pangasius-class cruisers were stolen, along with a trio of transports and all weapons aboard. Explosion patterns were consistent with what would be expected from repurposed mecha-based rocket platforms that would have been stored aboard these vessels...” The news drones on, “Officials suspect that Avalonian agents infiltrated Europa individually, and urge Jovian citizens to be on guard and report any suspicious behavior.” The news drones on.
TL:DR the raid probably actually happened, because that's a lot harder to fake then explosions.
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>>1106357
She could try, but Duke is probably the most dangerous person to try that on and likely not alone. Even then, if Roarke or other members are there, it becomes that much harder to do. Likewise, with how Avalonians seem to work, disobeying Paladins is the sort of thing that would end badly. ESPECIALLY with their loyalty. If the duke docks his ship so it's guns are pointing away from Auditorium, then it becomes less likely since Avalonian ships have no rear cannons. To dock like that would be a sign of good faith and allow them to fire on the enemy traitors. And less mind control and more, something he and his higher ups would know. Either way, if the situation is going well then any sort of made up excuse wouldn't work because it becomes obvious. Likewise, if this sort of thing happens when we put pressure on Fairchild, then it means she is likely the culprit who had tried to force the situation.
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>>1106694
If I knew it would become this I would have kept my mouth shut
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>>1107013
Greenmen sympathizers are a crazy bunch.
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>>1107049
we all have space madness here
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>>1107049
Wong was right all along!
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>>1107049
well ya?
that's like, there main thing
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>>1107013
Fanfiction and watching people on 4chan do Romantic Role Playing is my fetish.

You can't prove otherwise.
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>>1107125
I can't but I can say that your fetish is fucking disgusting and belongs in the /trash/
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>>1106959
Lets go:

Frame+Armor+Options: 72CP and 22 tons.
Suggestion:Anon... Why do you keep insisting on putting the cockpit on the head?I'm assuming that it was an error because I see that you have bought the backup sensors... But don't forget that you could get rid of them by taking the canopy cockpit, as it still don't make much difference for you when you have striker armor...

Standard Weapons:
>Mated Canons are OK
>Missiles should cost 6,64Cp and weight 1 ton.

Loadouts:
>Missile: 5,68 and 1,5tons per weapon, resulting in: 11,36CP and 3 tons.
>Paladin Killer:3,84CP and 0,5 ton per weapon, resulting in: 7,68 and 1 ton.
>Sniper:Already discussed.
>Assault: 10.8, 10 shots, 2 reloads, 8 spaces 5.2 tons.

Final Weight: 29.85 tons.

Thursters: 13CP

Final price before multipliers: 120.64CP
Max price possible: 127.2CP
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>>1107136
Wow are you kink shaming? I bet you hate gay people and think pedophilia is wrong too.
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With all the musical options for Vietnyam I'm surprised no one went with White Rabbit especially when they were marching into that Resident Evil Dam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR8LFNUr3vw

>>1107145
How would I go about revising the Excalibur to half less armour and more speed and lethal drillance?
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>>1107147
pedophilia is against the law
speaking of law'
what kind of law's will we have?
no slavery, bigotry and pedophilia seem to be some good one's
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>>1107167
I didn't quite understand your question... Do you want to revise it yourself?

Donwload the Mekton Core and the Mekton Advanced Technical Manual on the internet as pdf and then just skip to mecha creation.
>>1107175
>Bigotry
With what meaning? SJW meaning of being oppressed?
Man, we should let people discriminate one another if they are not causing damage to other people's propriety, going full "Don't tread on me".
Then we let the freemarketOda Yoritomo gaining money with this solve the problem by creating enterprises that treat everyone equally!
And what will be our age of consent?
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>>1106533
>That seriously depends on what do you plan on doing with your mech.
>For example, I could make your mech look even more like the Templar by making the armor o down one level and using the points to make it faster and turning the lance even more lethal....

>>1107235
This is what I mean.
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>>1107145
Most of this is correct. One small point, the cost of the frame+armour+options is 73,3, due to space reduction (backup sensors reduced to 1 space, ASP reduced to 0,6 space).

As for the missiles, they are a little more expensive and bigger then they should be due to me rounding up. Fortunately, there is plenty of cp in the budget for this, so it is no big deal.

You are of on the weight of the missiles a few times though. Each forearm missile weighs 0,5 tons (12/15=0,8, which is rounde up to 1 because of the minimum kills, the divided by 2 for 0,5 tons). the paladin killers weigh 0,8 tons each (24/15=1,6, 1,6/2=0,8), and the heavy missile launchers weigh 1,1 tons each (32/15=2,1333(repeating), which divided by half is 1,06666.... which is rounded up to 1,1)

As for the thrusters, the neccesary thruster space is 13,455. I assumed up till now that thrusters are just rounded up by default.

>Why do you keep insisting on putting the cockpit on the head?
Because i want to and it fits the concept.

As for the backup sensors, yoou reminded me that there were more ways to disable the sensors then just wreck the servo or score a lucky crit, and it pays to be prepared, Still, the canopy cockpit is not a bad idea though. I'll see if those free points and the free space could get me something.
On the other hand, that is technically an optional rule, and i don't know if Wong uses it.
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>>1107445
Can't reduce sensors... I Already tried that and Wong corrected me (see my Sukesada Harpy).

You round the weight of the missiles up too, 0.5, 1 ton, 1.5tons.... Wong ruled as so.

Thursters are rounded to the closest whole number... so 13 in this case.

>Not using a canopy cockpit
Would he lose this opportunity of having a mech design crazy enough to actually try this?
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>>1107512
BR, you did see the new link I gave you for the Myrmidon, right?
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>>1107733
Yes, sorry for not saying anything, I was working in the Gyrfalcon.... Trying to decipher what he was trying to do with it.

>>1107268
Working on it, had to scale down the shield and the legs... But the Lance now has even more range, is lighter, and can do twice the attacks in a action.

Made the MV go down from -4 to -3, but I'm not satisfied with the MA yet, at this time 6MA+10MABoosterpack.
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>>1105956
I don't see how I have the cp to link the legs again? it would be an interservo linkage (3 CP ) right? I already linked the beam sweepers on the legs...wait I miscounted the CP... I have 1 cp left... guess I'll shave down the head again and add that extra linkage in:


http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
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>>1107803
It'd be 6 CP for melee weapons.
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>>1107803
I'd recommend replacing the beam sweepers, they're pretty terrible weapons.
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>>1107838
ah guess I should have just left it alone then, need to find another thing to shave down fro cp...
>>1107851
yeah, I made this thing a while ago and didn't really know what made a good weapon at the time, should be easy to make something better.
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>>1107860
Also, Jesus Christ I forgot how ludicrously overpowered leg mounted weapons are.
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>>1107776
Great, thank you very much
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>>1107897
they're low accuracy though iirc.
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>>1107902
STOP, you missed my comment where I explain it, don't start shaving things down please.
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>>1107902
This one: >>1104243
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>>1107902
Nope. You can use certain martial arts techniques to trade accuracy for damage, but the base attacks aren't inaccurate. I'm also quite certain that you're talons aren't actually legal. They each should cost 6 cp (pre space efficiency), and you forgot your land MA, which may actually be 0.
>>1107947
You're math is wrong.
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>>1107947
>>1107947
>>1107993
guess i'm gonna have to re-do this thing entirely... at this point am i even gonna be able to participate? ah well.
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>>1107993
Please explain... And I will probably redo it.
>>1107899
"EXCALIBUR" PROTOTYPE

KNIGHT CUSTOM "SPACE VARIANT"(Tuned down for the Tourney, as the original has two more reloads and MA 8.)
Heavy Striker Torso: C/S/K 10, 5 tons
Medium Striker Head: C/S/K 4, 2 tons
Heavy Striker L. Arm: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Left Hand: 1.5 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Heavy Striker R. Arm: C/S/K 6, 2.5 tons
Right Hand: 1.5 CP, 1 Space, 1 Kill, 0.5 tons
Medium Striker L. Leg: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
Medium Striker R. Leg: C/S/K 5, 2 tons
39 cp (17 Tons)
Armor: Medium Striker Beta Armor (6 CP, 4 SP, 2 tons) on all locations (36CP) (12 tons)

Main Sensors (Head): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Backup Sensors (Torso): 2 CP, 2 Spaces, 2 Kills, 1 ton

Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Storage Module (1 CP, 1 Space), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo System (0.1 CP), Anti-Theft Code Lock(0.4 CP).

Armament: The Knight uses a Mated Cannon and Lance, a hit of 6K to either will destroy both. The CP, Spaces, and Weight listed for either form is shared and not added twice to its cost. (31 CP, 6 Spaces and 6 tons.)(+3CP, for 3 clips of Ammo)
[Handheld] Avalonian Lance (Lance form): WA 0, 6K(+1), AP, Quick, 12 CP, 12 Spaces, 3 tons
[Handheld] Avalonian Lance (Cannon form): Range 1100 meters, WA +1, 7K, Ammo 10, 2 reloads, 12,7575 CP, 12,7575 Spaces, 3.5 tons.*
[Arm-Mounted] Small Heavy Shield: DA -2, SP 6, 6 CP, 3 tons


Thrusters & Propulsion: 5 thrusters in the torso and 2 per leg, allowing them to jump 300m at a time, without the capacity for in-gravity flight.9CP.
(External Mount) Booster Pack: 40 MA Points, Max Boost 40, 4 CP, 4 K
Total weight: 40.5 Tons.(39.5 After 2CP on weight efficiency.)
Total Cost: 140 CP

Is it okay now?
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>>1108027
Nah, don't worry, you got in up the time limit.

Solaire may have to ask Wog a
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>>1108043
Solaire may have to ask Wong about it, though.
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>>1108033
Yeah it's great, thank you very much.
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>>1107993
the talons act as the feet which are considered to be an automatic part of the leg servo so it doesn't take spaces... but yeah costs seem to be off, not sure where I got those...

I think I might just use the talons from pic and add AP then...
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>>1108033
>Please explain... And I will probably redo it.
A 6 k melee weapon costs 3 CP and 3 tons. Add AP, Quick and Clumsy.
3 * 2 * 2 / 2 = 6
Furthermore, anything with a pre weight efficiency tonnage of 40 has a base land speed of 200m. Each talon would reduce that by 100m to a total of 0. Which Wong may very well ban. Certainly you can't increase the Talon's strength any more and go negative.
Still, paired 12k AP quick weapons is goddamn horrifying.
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>>1108100
The avian form is pretty ridiculous. More melee power and parts variation and a good speed boost for only -1Mv
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>>1108109
To be fair, my reading of the rules says that you have to have wings, or a metaform limb. But if Wong is fine with it then w/e.
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>>1108100
theres a funny thing about feet, they have a default damage of 2K, which apparently gets added to weapons that are the feet like the talons i'm using which are technically only 4K talons (the core book does the same with its example talon in the pic here: >>1108085
)
also I shaved the base weight down to 39.5 so my land MA should be >0 now.

heres my remade version: http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu

>>1108132
I originally just had it as a mecha beast but someone said it was ok to make it have the avian form bonuses.
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>>1108143
>theres a funny thing about feet, they have a default damage of 2K, which apparently gets added to weapons that are the feet like the talons i'm using which are technically only 4K talons (the core book does the same with its example talon in the pic here: >>1108085
Nope. The Talons and claws can actually be built with the ATM. Or at least close enough that the designers clearly rounded them like they did the foot. You can't just declare that something is a foot and then not pay for space efficiency.
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>>1108100
No, You're wrong,

Feet gets +2DMG bonus
What happens here is that he bought a 4K weapon, which costs 2CP
2*2*2=8CP/2(Clumsy)=4CP.

And if I'm not mistaken, his walking speed would be of a quarter(50m) not 0.

>>1108132
Tarrasque doesn't have arms and is considered humanoid... And If I'm remembering well, this form modificators have been optional because of this sorts of cases, or the sort where no form would apply well (Rashad's mech), but I could be wrong on this.
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>>1108159
ok, I think I can still fit them though, back to the drawing board. if all else fails I'll drop a kill from the talons since I doubt 1 damage is going to make that big a difference.
or should I just calculate with the spaces of a 4k weapon in the leg servos?
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>>1108159
>Nope. The Talons and claws can actually be built with the ATM. Or at least close enough that the designers clearly rounded them like they did the foot. You can't just declare that something is a foot and then not pay for space efficiency.
Except that the feet table on the corebook gives 2K free without extra weight and declared that the feet weapon don't occupy spaces, there is no rounding, a 2K feet(a literal 0K weapon) even doesn't have weight.

I know, I went crazy with this too.
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>>1108180
Feet just don't take spaces, its crazy buts its true, unless Wong houserules it.
But he always said that the corebook comes first in terms of servo related things, like weight.
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>>1108185
>>1108191
Your interpritation also doesn't match up. The three default feet do not follow any possible interpretation of the rules, and thus are clearly special exceptions. Even if you build them on top of the normal feet the costs still don't match the ATM. You can use the default feet options. You cannot replace them with some custom version that follows rules that you made up and they themselves don't follow.
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>>1108205
Man... There is a clear progression in that feet chart... Like hands, each of those feets are Clumsy and Quick, as the corebook hands are Quick and Handy, and each of them gain +2DMG bonus plus the leg size damage bonus.

I still think that giving such bonuses to feet are still bullshit, but they are clearly there, I don't see them being "special exceptions" when they seem to follow a pattern.

And wong already ignored the ATM before, so I wouldn't be surprise if he did that again.

....And there is still the matter that even if you take away his +2DMG this thing would still do the same damage as the Kaiser, even if he can't do half the things the Kaiser could do with its hands...
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>>1108258
think it'd also have to use kick only options so it's accuracy gets quite low. Feels like another progression of those rediculous builds and the talons should take up spaces if they are such specialized tools.
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>>1108258
Look... Even if you assume that you can have a free two damage and not pay for space efficiency if you just call it a foot the numbers STILL don't add up.
The Claw would be priced as a 1k clusmy melee weapon. This costs .25 cp, not 1 cp. Even granting it quick (which I've never seen but w/e), only raises the cost to .5 cp.
The talons would be a 3k clumsy (quick) weapon, costing 1.5 or .75 cp. Not the 2 cp that the core book assigns.
Considering how the errata specifically mentions how the default hands are legal but doesn't mention the formula for how the feet work, they are almost certainly special exceptions.
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>>1108315
I calced it again without any weird foot rules
http://pastebin.com/sR0KhwEu
this work? had to lose 2 K of damage but I don't think that will impact performance too much.
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>>1108342
Yes. You can still oneshot basically every servo, frequently through the sheild. Congrats.
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>>1108365
Y'know I didn't even realize how nasty I made this thing... I just wanted a bird that kicked the shit outta things...
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>>1108365
oh yeah... regarding the avian form flight MA bonus, should I bring that up with wong or just remove it? Even without it I hit a common MA level of the tourney at 10MA which should be fine.
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>>1108436
Probably. Any rulings that could go either way should be avoided or brought up ahead of time. You don't want to have the argument we just did regarding your legs during the tourney.
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>>1108443
guess I'll bring it up Wednesday then.
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I'm looking through the ATM, and does anyone know where the 0.7 modifier comes from on the example melee weapon?
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>>1106694
On the other hand you do get the opportunity to set the shippers on fire.
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>>1107851
They can shoot everyone at once though.
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>>1109299
can they? I didn't see wide angle as part of their effects? I thought they could just hit the same target like 10+times depending on the roll?
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>>1109370
We used this as Amos against some simulation knights. Only difference is infinity evenly divided is still infinity.
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>>1109406
ooohhh... well I still needed to swap them out just to have enough CP to adjust for the leg issues I had.
Though maybe I could make my own custom version of the beam sweeper at lower cost...
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so... Looking at beam weapons I found some thing potentially silly and almost definitely illegal
Mega Hydro Wave Cannon:
essentially its a water cannon that fires 360 degree's with every shot, and has the mega beam modifier meaning it hits every part of the target mech for full damage, except water cannons do no damage but can use Kills to knock things over...
Essentially I can make every mech in a 225m area get bowled over by a tidal wave every 3 turns for about 72 CP

actually, now that I think about it it doesn't need the Mega beam modifier, though hydro cannons do require infinite bv and limited shots as part of their construction... eh might be pretty cheap then....
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>>1109455
ah wait can't do clip fed AND limited shots....

ok more reasonable version:
10K hydro cannon (15 cp base)
15 x 9 (360 wide angle mod)
= 135 x 5 (Infinite BV mod)
= 675 x .9 (limited shots (10) mod)
= 607.5 x .9 (+0 accuracy mod)
= 546.75 x.9 (1 turn warm up mod)
= 492.075 x .75 (50% range mod)
= 369. 056 x .2 (Hydrocannon mod)
= 73.81 CP

... I could see this being used as a "villain of the week mecha" gimmick where the mech fills an area with water and has the aqua mech modifier so it can move with ease while the heroes mech cannot... Are there rules about applying shock damage via conductive substances?
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>>1109524
Dont think so. This looks like something Wile E coyote would make.
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>>1109531
the trip rules for this thing are 10+Kills (20 in this case) as the defense difficulty, so it'd be very hard to not get knocked over by this thing... and in space it would leave a massive sphere of water floating...

yeah this is some ACME shit right here.
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>>1109538
wait... in space... the water would boil due to low pressure then freeze... could I use this to make an Ice shield?... hell is there some way to super cool the water so i can freeze mechs? though I suppose an epoxy gun would be more effective...
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>>1106147

Fucking hell, you built a decent SOUL machine or Cavalier. Saved.
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>>1109564
oh hey Wong! One question about mecha forms, the mech I was making for the tourney currently uses the avian mecha beast from, but it has no wings since I based it on a flightless bird, is it still ok to use the avian form without wings or should I just make it a regular mecha beast form?
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>>1106403

Fractional spaces absolutely round up. There's no such thing as a fractional space.
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>>1109573

Regular mecha beast form would make more sense, wouldn't it?
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>>1109564
Mr. Wong is this mech up to snuff for the tournament? Along with it's Pilot Magnarus?
http://pastebin.com/cfgEhQrX
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>>1109578
yeah I figured, OK i'll change it in the pastebin then. an extra 300m of flight for basically no cost seemed a bit too much but had to make sure.
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>>1109564
So do you want us to post our mechs all the time for you to see if you can use them? I've been trying not to spam and only posting the ones I think are actually interesting.
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>>1109564
The power of electricity knows no bounds.
I also planned on fluffing it to fly through magnetic levitation rather regular thrusters.
>>1109599
I've always thrown out what shit I made. Its just that only 4 of them have been over the 140 CP limit.
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>>1109605
>>1109564
Could name it the S Electricus
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>>1109574
We were doing that to avoid situations where multiple roundings ended up making a mech more and more expensive because of multiple weapons being rounded... What eventually made them get 1 or 2 CP over the limit when they should be cheaper by raw rules.
...And we did that with something like 8 mechs until now, and don't even now where to begin on revising them... Should we try to adapt everything though? Its only 1 or 2CP of difference tops.

>>1109578
He did that because he mech can fly with thursters and have an "Ostrich" design... So if he is a bird, and fly, won't avian fit better with it instead of just Beast?

>>1109524
This... Is a monster.
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>>1109574
Also, I think that the number is confirmed by now, unless someone appears saying that their mech was forgotten(And I asked them many times by now to please check if everything is okay) the final number of mechs should be the ones in the paste bin plus:
>M-Sagister(The Flying Ostrich who keeps being customied because of multiple rules shenanigans)
>Excalibur(I'm almost sure that the Queen of Avalon already pilots a mech with that name and this will be Paladin-Senpai 2:Eletric Bogaloo) >>1109584
>Gyrfalcon... Who keeps changing its sheet because of math errors and not being satisfied.
With the number confirmed, they should be able to finish their mechs in the next thread as you asked.

Is this okay?
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>>1109824
If Excalibur is taken I think I'll go with:
The Ulfberht
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>>1109985
We don't know for sure yet... but assuming that each of the Paladins are based on one of the twelve peers... And that the Queen probably has her own Strider, if its not called the Arthur its probably called Excalibur.

This reminds me of that time when Paladin-sama predicted the existance of Paladins....
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>>1109994
Well it's better safe than sorry and I don't want to make waves in the story that Wong has planned.
But we will see what he has to say.
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>>1109824

Well, i managed to fix your points, and find a good way to spend the freed up points without costing to much space. So here is the final version of the Gyrfalcon.

http://pastebin.com/1budAMxt

That took way too long for such a simple mech. On the other hand, it's now the fastest mecha in the tournament, only equaled by the Valkyrie using it's booster pack at full thrust.
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Kawaii is still BEST GIRL
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>>1110235
Man... I'm sorry for taking too long to analyze this today, but my younger brother mad me wakeup before the sunrise because of stupid reasons and I didn't got much sleep after this...

I'll try to give it a look later, but in this state of sleepyness I don't want to end up sleeping while at it and possibly screw up the math... So I'll try to sleep a little before going at it again...
Also what version is this? 7? 8? Maybe you should change its name after so much interactions!XD
... There was a anon who really did that '-'

I'm going to try falling sleep with anime... What do you guys suggest for it? Is Fate bad enough to do it? I should watch it sooner or later because of this quest, so...
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>>1110806

Sleep tight, BR. Don't feel obliged to rush it, we still have plenty of time. I'm fine with it as long as it ends up in the pastebin, so we can be done with this.
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My two cents on projectile reloads. Since they don't take up space they shouldn't take up weight either. The cp costs alone are punishing enough.
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>>1111319
That ends up making things sort of fiddly though. Like a mech with a two-handed gun can now be held one handed because you get to spend less on thrusters.
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>>1111319
huh? I was pretty sure they took spaces, I remember calculating for that on one of my builds.
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>>1111364
Reloads for handheld weapons take no space since they're mounted outside a servo instead of in it. They don't change the cost of ammo either, but they don't get armor protection if they're hit.
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>>1111364
>>1111368
I should say, being a reload doesn't change the cost of ammo. "They don't change the cost of ammo" was poorly worded.
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>>1111368
ahh, ok. now that I think of it the projectile weapon I thinking of was internally mounted....
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>>1111364
They take up space when loaded in the gun. But reloads themselves don't iirc.
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>>1109985
Not gonna lie, naming your Mook Mech "Excalibur" sounds pretentious as fuck.
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>>1112902
>Avalonians
Seems about right.
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>>1112922
Welcome to the club, brother.
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>>1112922
I'm just saying, if you're going to name.your mech after one of the most legendary swords in existence, at least make sure it can match up to the Zulfiqar. That's also named after a sword and one that's nowhere near as Legendary as Excalibur.
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>>1112928
Thank you, I'd have used a low quality bait image but that's been used already.
So have Oda-Senpai in his earlier years.
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>>1112928
Probably have a new ID, I'm tank guy.
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>>1112902
these days when I hear the name excalibur i'm more reminded of that annoying fuck from soul eater than any legendary sword.
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>>1112947
Your loss mate.
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>>1112932
I'm kind of hoping that the queen or someone else has a mech called excalibur and Magnus begin some sort of international incident just because of it.

>>1112933
It's time to begin creating your own avalonian memes like >>1112945

>>1112947
Is soul eater worthy watching?
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>>1112955
>Is soul eater worthy watching?

No.
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>>1112955
>Is soul eater worthy watching?
It's an entertaining shonen with the usual good action by Studio Bones. Don't expect anything groundbreaking though.
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>>1112949
I think its partly because of how often excalibur has shown up in games i've played that the name just means less.

other legendary swords are fine though.
there's Caliburn (another sword associated with King arthur), Joyeuse, Durandal, Hrunting, Gambanteinn, Gram, Tyrfing, Caladbolg, Tizona and Colada and others.

>>1112955
Soul Eater was ok, nothing special basically a solid shonen anime with a sorta interesting art direction.
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>>1112955
I'd like to see you try to get on my level of shitty Paint edits and stupid memes Avalonian cuck.
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>>1112955
Soul eater is worth watching but it's a matter of opinion.

>My own memes
>Pic related is relevant

>>1112932
Which is why I'm also fine with naming my mech Ulfberht, a line of swords considered legendary in their own right.

And for the record, my 'mook mech' is a mook killer

EDUCATION!
https://youtu.be/4EG34YoRHs8
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>>1112961
If you just want a good name you could name it after famous historical figures too. Carolous Rex springs to mind.
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>>1112964

Considering the greatest warriors of Avalon are named paladins, and even named after the peers of the realm, that would be even more pretentious.
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>>1112966
Sooo... being as Avalonian as possible?
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>>1112961
I this is the solaire pilot... sun names could also work... Naranbaatar roughly translates as sun hero from mongolion. There's also Solfrid which basically means beautiful sun.
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>>1112969
But since Avalonians have a theme of naming things around the classic medieval times I don't think something Mongolian would be fitting.
Regardless Ulfberht is fitting enough as it's grounded in reality while something like Excalibur of something of myth and legend but I will still go with what Wong thinks, call me pretentious I don't give a fuck
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>>1112972
Well you could always pull something from a LOTR language, since iirc the colonists that became the avalonians were largely western fantasy weebs.
Ulfbehrt is solid too though, naming a weapon after an older weapon usually works.
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>>1112972
also, I think your mech might be the slowest in the tourney without its booster pack... iirc all other mechs hit at least 8MA for flight in gravity.
Its an interesting choice, though I realize the regular version does hit 8MA.

now that I think about it I still have a hard time judging how useful high MA is in combat in this quest so maybe it'll pay off.
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>>1112960
Is this the first Avalonian meme war?
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also... whoever posted the Gryfalcon... I'm pretty sure wings can only give the +100m flight bonus once, adding extra sets of wings won't give you extra bonuses
or is there some exception for metaform wings?
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>>1112982
Pretty sure its the slowest in the entire quest. Regular knights can at least run fast with their skates.
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>>1112960
Two can play this, but there will be no winners, we will only destroy one another...
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>>1112985
>Avalonians get on GYchan
>They're all a bunch of white knights who take the bait WAY too easily
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>>1112990
technically my own M-Sagiser can only walk at 50m a turn on its legs, but it can fly with its thrusters so thats its main form of transportation.

>>1112988
yeah in pic it says that multiple wing sets can't give a cumulative bonus.
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>>1112961
>naming my mech Ulfberht
>Stealing Viking naming
Be ready for an angry Norse pagan arriving at your door in 5-10 business days
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>>1112985
Considering your memes are bad, no.


Firstly, you ridicule something valued by your target group, not something they hate.

Second, when you use this template, you have to be subtle. You keep it simple and fast because the shorter and simpler you make it the smaller and simpler you make your target.

Also your crop job was atrocious, you cut off the bottom of the Jew.


This is how you do it.
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>>1112995
Wong's ruled that you need wing to fly in atmosphere. Just having thrusters isn't good enough, so the Sagiser's basically useless anywhere with gravity.
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>>1112993
Now that you put it that way... I just noticed that the Avalonians on Psyche-16 and on Auditorium now have acess to GYchan...

>>1112997
>"Also your crop job was atrocious, you cut off the bottom of the Jew."

I already got it that way.

Thanks for the help, though.


>>1112990
Bu they have MA4 in space, this one at least have MA6 and a booster pack.
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>>1112998
Since when? Pumpkinseeds can fly and they dont have wings.
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>>1112998
No... This is just for Jet form mechs.... Or Tanks.
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>>1113001
Oh so I was discriminated against then? Fucking anime always shitting on logical combat platforms.
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>>1112993
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>>1113002
I mean... the way a tank is armored it seems like it would be hard to position flight thrusters in a way that doesn't compromise the armor overlap effect, at least I guess that's the reasoning in this system...

now that i think about it... could you make a combo mech based off those zeon tanks that split into a tank and fighter and have the wings of the detachable fighter count as wings for the combined tank form? that way your tank would have wings and a neat remote/extrapilot system
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>>1112990
It's a space type mech plus I didn't design it, BR did, complain to him I'm just here for the ride, I don't care if my mech wins or not.
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>>1113003
I wonder do Avalonians have internet? Just how backwards are the peasants?
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>>1113002
You know there was a gliding tank in real life? They couldn't fit a gun on it so it was pretty useless but at least one was made.
>>1113012
Backwards enough to still be called peasants.
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>>1113012
An internet gets in the way of the nobility keeping power, helps spread ideas too easily. Wouldn't be surprised if they only have an internet in the original military sense, not the modern day one.
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>>1113011
not saying its bad, just interesting, I definitely wanna see how a mech performs at that speed, if it does well maybe I could make a super turtle mech with little to no MA.
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>>1113013
Ya but peasants did advance somewhat with time. I mean you could consider the poor today peasants.
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>>1113017
They probably wouldn't take kindly to it though.
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>>1113020
I don't think people ever took kindly to being called peasants.
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>>1113022
Yeah but today people would call you out for calling them a peasant. I doubt avalonian peasants would.
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>>1113026
Kind of hard to call people out when you have Greenmen dick in your mouth
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>>1113026
>>1113030
Wong actually made a point of telling me earlier that Avalonian society is no less advanced than any other. Avalon's regular citizens are probably comparable to Martian or Jovian citizens, just with a different coat of paint.
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>>1113011
Me? Blame Akai's space madness!

Also... How much of the system you know exactly? Do you know that you have 2 actions per turn and that you can spend one of them to move 150m? Do you know that you can spent those MA points in the booster pack to move at 600m in the first turn just spending the first action and 9MA points? Do you know that with your lance you can either skit most ranged mecha by shooting at them and moving backwards or instead just rush at them with your boosterpack and screw them with 4 7K AP attacks per turn?
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>>1113033
>there are Avalonians on the internet right now
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>>1113034
I know nothing about the combat system I just literally caught up as of this thread, haven't read the fluff of the history of the setting or the combat and profile system for the mechs, so no.

Sorry but I did have 70 odd threads to binge read.
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>>1112959
>Caliburn

Made up by Nasu to give the Nameless Blade that Arthur drew from the Stone a name.
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>>1112961
It's under 140 CP and, thus, a Mook Mech.
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>>1113040
Wikipedia says
>Geoffrey of Monmouth, in his Historia Regum Britanniae (The History of the Kings of Britain, c. 1136), Latinised the name of Arthur's sword as Caliburnus
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>>1113042
Yeah, that later became Excalibur. The Sword in the Stone was only ever known as "The Sword in the Stone."
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>>1113034
>spent those MA points in the booster pack to move at 600m in the first turn just spending the first action and 9MA points
Don't booster packs add on to your thruster MA?
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>>1113039
Out of curiosity what made you read this quest and catch up on it?
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>>1113041
I don't care?

>>1113047
Someone I know from another quest recommended it to me on discord
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>>1113041
Forgot the image it's quite relevant
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>>1113050
Where's the bin for your mech anyways?
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>>1113039
Anons, please help me with this one.

Okay... You should give a look at the Core manual to be at least able of putting a fight in the tourney.

Here is how things work:
>MV: A Penalty to all rolls that a mech receives depending on its weight, yours is -3.
>MA: How fast a mech can move in a turn, each action spent on moving makes you move half your max MA.
>What do you roll: 16(Because we're A-crew level)+1d10-MV+Bonuses do to anything.
How combats work:

>Iniciative (16-MV+1d10)
>First guy makes two actions.
>Second guy makes his actions.
>Attacks are 16-MV+1d10+Modifier of the Weapon.
>Example: Your Beam-Canon would be 16-3+1d10+1=14+1d10
>Then the target makes his dodge roll 16-MV+1d10.
>If the attacker wins by more than 5 points, its a crit, if its more than 10 points of difference, its a megacrit.
>Crits lets you roll in the special crits table, Megacrits lts you do the same, but also lets you roll on the cinematic damage table, and ignore all Armor.
>Damage is the result of weapon DMG-Target Armor.
>Example: Your Beam Lance has 7K of Damage, so if it hits the Walkure Torso who has 5SP Armor, it should cause 2 Kills of damage.
>Armor ablates with every attack it receives... But your Beta Armor is special as it doesn't ablative if the attack cause less than 4 DMG.
>If you are hit with an attack, but have a shield or a weapon with which to parry, you can roll 16-MV+1d10-DA modificator to make the attack hit the shield instead, which will soften it but ablate the shield, you don't need to spend actions to do that and neither to dodge.
>You can decide which servo you will attack when you are using melee weapons, but you can't do that with ranged weapons without getting a -4 penalty to your roll... Instead you roll to see which servo you hit.
>You can shoot how many missiles you want with an action if they are of the same type, but how many of them hits depends on how well you roll, what doesn't matter much to you who doesn't have missiles.

Did I forgot something?
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>>1113046
You spend boost point to boost your MA in a movement action.
For example: if the Ulfberht uses one action to move 150(MA3) it could also spend 9MA boost points from its 40 to move 600m instead(600m is the maximum you can move from 0 in a turn).

So... Assuming that most mechs will try to close-in on him to be able to attack, this guys can dropkick people with his first action and then proceed to go 2x7K(AP) Drillance on them.
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>>1113050
it's funny that he keeps trying
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>>1113054
The core rulebook is where?
If I can get a link I'll give it an in-depth read also what is the max points allowed for tourney mechs? I imagine there is a limit.

>>1113058
It's so sad I feel sorry for him
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>>1113054
>Armor ablates with every attack it receives... But your Beta Armor is special as it doesn't ablative if the attack cause less than 4 DMG.
Attacks up to 4K damage.

Armor ablates at -1 SP for every attack unless you take ablative armor, which ablates by however many kills of damage it takes. Nobody has to worry about that though.

>>1113056
Oh, I'm retarded. I thought 9 times 50 was 600.
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>>1113060
Point limit is 140 CP. No Beta Armor or above. No MV below -2.

Did Wong say if he was extending the cutoff? Last thread was supposed to be final submissions.
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>>1113054
Forgot to say that his lance is AP, which would divide my armor by two and round it down... So it would cause 5K of DMG.

>>1113060
Search on google: "Mekton Corebook pdf"
You should at least find a 4shared link.

the max limit is 140CP
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>>1113060
Look up "Mekton Zeta pdf" the first link should work.

>>1113062
inb4 Brazil tries shitposting you
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>>1113064
>inb4 Brazil tries shitposting you

?
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>>1113065
Just wait. Or if you don't want to, I'll guess what he says.

WONG SAID AVALONIANS HAVE BETA ARMOR REEEEEEEE
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>>1113062
>Beta Armor
You can if you're Kestrel or Avalonian... But most attacks are waaaaay more stronger than 4K here, so it is only usefull against ablating builds and cheap missile spamming.

...Also, I think it is mostly just for Avalonians, as Wong said something about it being limited between the Kestrels when I asked about if it was okay to use it for Victor as Lori uses it.
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>>1113060
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxQvrB13LOtaRHVLdHpQbm10Q0k/view?usp=sharing
>>1113067
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>mfw
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>>1113068
Damn, he was civil about it.
I blame the alcohol on my wrong prediction.
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Also... You said that your character without the helmet was based on Gawain, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawain

>"In some works, his strength waxes and wanes with the sun; in the most common form of this motif, his might triples by noon, but fades as the sun sets. "
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>>1113064
Very helpful but I had difficulty finding one until this anon
>>1113069
linked the google drive which I thank you very much anon

>>1113074
>mfw I find out I unknowingly did a thing
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>>1113076
So, is your mech sun themed then? Cause I'd be pretty disappointed if it wasn't.
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>>1113082
Refer to this
>>1107899
I think that's sun themed enough.
>Pic is the pilot.
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>>1113082
Also double posting like a faggot but here is the bin, originally it was more heavily armoured with a full heavy striker set and betta armour but it was slower without the boosters and the lance wasn't as 'lethal'

http://pastebin.com/cfgEhQrX
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>>1113086
Its kind of interesting that a battle between you and victor would probably be decided by exaustion of resources, with you having the lead by ranged fire until the boost ends and you have to duel equally with your lances....

Would be cool to watch.

About your mech colors... Would it be also the colors of your clan?
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>>1113085
Auditorium ain't ready for our amount of C H I V A L R Y!
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>>1113092
If by clan you mean family yes but he'd have had to get permission from Kennedy to do it I think, I'm not sure but I think the Knights would've had a uniformity paint job done so their heraldry to their liege lord or lady could be told.

>>1113095
>Pic related is the salute of comrades in Chivalry
Auditorium can't hold us.
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>>1110835
Listen:
-You forgot to change the spaces taken by the meteor canon, now it should be 6 Spaces.
-As one anon pointed out in >>1112995, only the first set of wings gives you the bonus, so I'm assuming that you'll give up on the second set.
-So... New Maximum CP: 133.3CP
-You can also get it back to 140CP if you buy "Manual Controls", losing 1 point of your maneuver pool.
-The missile launcher costs 5.7CP each, not 5.8, resulting in 11.4CP.
-To make your mech go even faster again you'll need to give it MA16... What will result in 18CP on thursters.

I still think that the head cockpit is a bad Idea when your torso is much more resistant to damage... But if you're going to do it anyway, you should at least follow Char's example and put some weapon on the head too, after making it Heavy striker.

Also, if you aren't going to use special ammo, why bother using projectile weapons?Using Beam weapons could at least reduce your weight even more...

Here is a few suggestions:

>[Handheld]Paladin-Killer Rocket Laucher:Range 600m, WA +3, 12K, 5 Shots, 14 CP, 8 Spaces, 2 tons.
>[Handheld]Pumpkin Missile Pod:Range 550m, WA +1, 10K, 9 Shots, 14 CP, 8 Spaces, 3 tons.
>[Handheld]Rail Rifle:Max Range 5Km(Long Ranged with 500m as base), WA -1, 6K, 10 Shots(3Clips), 14 CP, 8 Spaces, 3 tons.
>[Handheld]Rail Rifle: Range 550 , WA +1, 8K, Infinite Ammo, 14 CP, 8 Spaces, 4 tons.

Also, now that you have more points to spend, maybe you should think on buying those medium weight sensors again.
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>>1113125
Huhhh.... The Second "Rail Rifle" should be the "Heavy Rifle" instead... but I think that you already got it.
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>>1113086
In the old version the lance wasn't really good for anything but self defense since it was too slow to chase anyone down.
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>>1113127
Yeah but I've been told by BR that the lance has been made better for offence and the mech made faster but is a bit weaker armor wise.
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>>1113130
Yeah. Even at only 300 MA you would eventually catch up with most people unless they spent their entire turn running away. At 200 it would be pretty much impossible since they could move the same distance and shoot at you in the same round.

The gun is also stronger now and firing at the same accuracy as most other people which makes the range more worth it I think.
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>>1113127
The old version was based on "Don't worry about chasing them, make them come to you!" and was made with the intention of being used for defensive postions around ships on space or to capture and secure spots against hordes of smaller jovian mechs.

The actual one is very similar to the Templar... But instead of focusing on speed and melee, it uses a more archaic and cheaper booster system to allow a more energy diversion to the lance... In other words it can be better at ranged and uses its thursters more just to change positions before firing, using the booster to emergency cases where it needs to outspeed someone by surprise.

It could get exausted within a long duration fight, but paired with a Templar it could offer fire support at distance and then change positions and go melee on the case his ally gets heavily damaged.
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>>1113133
>"Don't worry about chasing them, make them come to you!"
The problem I see with that is no one is actually going to come to you unless they are confident in fucking you up in melee since its weaker at range.
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>>1113135
Bluegills/Pumpkinseeds uses beam weapons of 3K... They can't damage a beta armor user if they don't come for melee.

It would work for a few battles before the jovians armed each of them with better weapons... And then the extended range would still give you the advantage of shooting them a few times before they got into range.

But yeah, its way better now.
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>>1113130
The shield is more slower too, now the penalty is -2, so to block you would roll 1d10+11 when most enemis roll 1d10+14 to hit.

I could drop the shield completely if you want, it would give 8 or so CP back, but would leave you more vulnerable.
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>>1113140
It was always at -2 though.
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>>1113130
To give you a better notion of what this mech can do:
>Dodge: 1d10+13
>Parry: 1d10+11(Shield or Lance, in case of melee attacks)
>Drillance Attack(Can do 2 per action):1d10+13
>Drillance Beam Cannon: 1d10+14

Most of the challengers here use Medium Strikers with Heavy Striker Armor(or less)

>One shot with the beam cannon would cause 2K of damage in the first attack, and would destroy a MS with HS armor Torso in 3 Shots(but they hit random locations).
>A Drillance attack would destroy a target torso in 2 hits(One action if all attacks hit and the enemy doesn't parry).

>>1113143
I changed for a small shield in one of the intermediary interactions....

Hey, does AP apply to shields?
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>>1113148
You would have to ask wong. It specifically says it doesn't apply for beam or reactive shields so maybe it applies for other types?
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>>1113148
AP applies to normal non energy shields. Disruption applies to energy shields. When you are done with them, can you please tell me if there are any fixes needed done for the dutchman f-type? Rather do them now than have to scramble.
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>>1113222
Checked, nice trips.
Okay, well... Considering that you made it I don't expect it to be anything less than perfect, but I'll give a look to it anyway.

Also... I was thinking that if we manage to persuade Hector and Elizabeth to join us we could have her providing support fire to us with a squad of snipers while hector protected them from any stragglers of the enemy army or a surprise attack from the Father.... What do you think?

I doubt that he is going to just give up so easily, but we can't really divert much effort into worrying about it, so Hector and maybe a squad of bluegills in "remove vegetable" duty should be okay to deal with it.
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>>1113321
Well, nothing is perfect, and if I did make the perfect machine, then there is no point in constantly making new ones.
Onto the knight points, the situation may not be simple. Hector is near death and Elizabeth is pretty shell shocked. With such states they may not be able to provide much combat use and I don't want to push either too far. Really, their main plus is intel. Especially on the Gerin. If we know how it attacks, we can effectively counter it. The Father is an issue, but it's one we know of. Ships using their cwis and dropping a constant barrage on it should keep it weak. The anti mech missiles could take out commanders, and we certainly have a variety of mechs for general mop up.
As is, our goal should be taking out the Gerin and making sure it cannot get close to the father.
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>>1113092
I'm going to warn you now, Wong isn't going to let you use the Sazabi as your mech picture.
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>>1113490
This isn't the Sazabi, this is an custom painted "Knight" R-Jarjal.

Heh, Cool huh?
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>>1113499
Which should also be good since he suggested it instead of the gelgoog for hunks mech.
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Just a random thought but... we are recordign all this spooky fucked up greenman shit right? we could potentially show it on a news broadcast etc? Cause such footage seems like something fairchild might want to use.
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>>1113614
Nah... We're giving it to Garret's brother.

I wonder how the Avalonians will react to that.
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>>1113632
just wondering if she'd try and comandeer the data somehow, I figured we'd give it to garrets brother.
should be a powerful tool though.

also... I'm tempted to shitpost until we hit 2000 posts in the thread, hopefully before it gets archived.
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>>1113642
>ATTEMPT TO SHITPOST!
I want to do that too, but we should discuss something worthy remembering...

So, one of my younger cousins asked me to suggest old mecha anime to him, what should I reccomend?
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>>1113657
Gundam 0079 (the first one) was what I started with as I only really started watching mecha a few weeks ago...
the set of OVA's thunder recommended to me was good, Giant Robo (7 1 hour OVAs).

Uh, maybe Gun x Sword though that doesn't count as old really... theres also 7 samurai though thats more swordsmen chopping up mechs than mecha combat iirc.
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>>1113657
How olds the big O? I remember the big O being good when I watched it as a kid.
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>>1113657
here's a chart i've been using to judge which gundam series to watch, it's been decently accurate I think.
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>>1113657
oh yeah, there's also Evangelion if you want to confuse the fuck outta him.
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>>1113657
>>1113671
Big O was from '99. Still worth a watch. Another decent one from then would be Escaflowne
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>>1113696
tfw '99 was 18 years ago
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>>1113710
;_;)7
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anyone know the turn rules on remote systems? I was planning on making a tank with a remote turret.having the drone run its program doesn't cost a turn action for the main mech right?
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>>1113668
>>1113671
>>1113681
>>1113691
>>1113696
>Gundam
already told him to watch it
>Big O
Thanks.
>Giant Robo
Hm... Thunder reccomended it? Okay, this is a must watch now.
>Evangelion
I've never seen it put I already believe it to be the worse mecha anime ever made... I think that people go too far trying to understand it and start seeing in it things that were never there... There was even this time when I heard this guy talking at length about his graduating thesis on psychology was based on him "Deciphering the true meaning of Evangelion using Freud"... Guys, we went too far.
>Escaflowne
...My Kung Fu Master suggested it one time... What is it about?
>Greenman holovid of impeding avalonian doom.
Coming to think about it... This recording is so good, but soooo good, that a great number of people will just never belive it...

>Group of brave jovian soldiers are invading a underground fortress with very suggestive architure elements that focus everything to this huge doomsday weapon shenaningan in the middle of the room.
>Then there is this naked catgirl loli suspended in vines that comes down, shows her immaculate skin and perfect face, and start handling this absurd giant double axe.
>Then the jovian soldiers act like a shonen protag and start questioning her about her evil plans of world domination.
>Possessed girl talks about her epic bakground story, evil plans, and even about how resistance is futile.
>She also implyies that the jovian have a new super weapon almost on greenman level, that she as an ultimate control spores plataform never seen before, and how she was working with avalon all along.
>Then the jovians pull a "Sasuga, all according to keikaku! This is for underestimating humanity! REMOVE VEGETABLE!" explode her doomsdayweapon, behead her without getting hit, and escape almost getting obliterated by a Michael Bay speacial effect.
>Nobody even dies.
>The protagonistas are the new jovian propaganda boy, the chairsman son and that dude who is son of that famous mecha engineer.

Guys... Be serious with me, would you believe in that?
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>>1113801
Drones get and the thing controlling them get their own turns independent of each other pretty sure.
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>>1113803
Been a long time since I've seen it, so I'm just going to copy-paste the MAL description of Escaflowne.

>Hitomi Kanzaki is just an ordinary 15-year-old schoolgirl with an interest in tarot cards and fortune telling, but one night, a boy named Van Fanel suddenly appears from the sky along with a vicious dragon. Thanks to a premonition from Hitomi, Van successfully kills the dragon, but a pillar of light appears and envelopes them both. As a result, Hitomi finds herself transported to the world of Gaea, a mysterious land where the Earth hangs in the sky.

In this new land, Hitomi soon discovers that Van is a prince of the Kingdom of Fanelia, which soon falls under attack by the evil empire of Zaibach. In an attempt to fight them off, Van boards his family's ancient guymelef Escaflowne—a mechanized battle suit—but fails to defeat them, and Fanelia ends up destroyed. Now on the run, Hitomi and Van encounter a handsome Asturian knight named Allen Schezar, whom Hitomi is shocked to find looks exactly like her crush from Earth. With some new allies on their side, Van and Hitomi fight back against the forces of Zaibach as the empire strives to revive an ancient power.
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>>1113803
>Guys... Be serious with me, would you believe in that?
Yes because people fought against these exact same things like 10 years ago.
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>>1113803
wrong!
two brave soldiers gave up their lives for their nation!
also all of those cute cat's got a i have no face but i must scream situation as well, sad we couldn't save them
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>>1113657
how about something no one has talked about but is kinda important.
the chain of command.
we our the admiral
in the military, the people below the admiral were the commodore, vice admiral and rear admiral.
will we be getting anybody for that? who will we give the position to?
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>>1113803
Considering green men have done worse and the people who experienced suuch travesties are still alive? I think they'd believe it. But the fact that Soul C did it with minimal casualties is going to rocket morale into the sky. Still, I feel like Garret's bro should get glory over Fairchild. He arrived to assist the people, helped put a plan together to stop Gerin, and the entire time Fairchild went Awol to check on her house. Don't know about you, but I don't think commanders are allowed to return home during a critical operation. Not to mention she took all those MP-SOUL units with her.
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I've been kinda inspired by this quest and might try to run a Mecha Mercenary Quest sometime in the future.
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>>1113818
Sweet.
Also its surprising how cheap mecha can be when you don't care about pilot safety.
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>>1113943
Using the Mekton system?
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>>1113954
Most likely. Admittedly, I'd probably need to adjust power levels some.
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To people who have seen Gundam 00, what's the skirt thing on the Cherudim's back?
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>>1114016
Probably where it keeps its bits.
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>>1114035
Bits as in drones just in case that wasn't clear.
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so... I think I made a nearly invulnerable Mech since it has mega heavy gamma armor, a 15 SP standard shield and a 15 SP reactive shield with 0 reset time... I guess you'd need to bring out some sort of heavy duty cannon with AP ammo to actually pose a threat to it? pretty good for 330 cp
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>>1114100
How well would it take a pile driver through a planet's atmosphere though?
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>>1114112
I think the atmospheric re-entry would perma fry the reactive shield and all of its armor, after that it would depend on the landing I guess?

are there rules for atmospheric entry?

is there a thing where you can make your mech capable of such?

It's still pretty much dead though since its only a torso servo with every defensive system I could put on it.
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>>1113632
>Is this the new resident evil film?
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>>1114127
There are. You either take the re-entry evnironmental protection, use gravitic propulsion or get totally destroyed.
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>>1114127
>>1114133
oh wait, energy only reactive shields can be used for atmospheric entry according to the advanced technical manual, whether non specific shields can do the same is up to the GM though apparently.

'These "interference”
fields are also useful for re-entry into planetary
atmospheres (whether other Reactive Shields
would be usable is up to the Referee).'
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>>1114133
So pile driving Belegor into a planet is a viable strategy if we upgrade the Kaiser. Fantastic.
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>>1114136
i never knew i wanted something so mutch before
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>>1114100
how heavy is it? Because that sounds extremely heavy, and thus open to being critted to death.
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>>1114136
You know, if that is possible, we need to do it or body surf his mech into the ground. Also, I want to hijack the control signal for Cabot's mech and use it to find her. Give her a nice, tight, hand shake for all the work she's done.
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>>1114158
When we see Cabot next time I want to send Sam with a small group of Ninja Harpies out cloaked to search for a green Harpy and then disable it and bring it back to the Rhinehawk.
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>>1114100
Doesn't Gamma Amor ablate beyond 8K's of Damage?

Cause 8K Missile spam would be pretty cheap, all things considered.
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>>1114166
>>1114100

Oh wait, you also have a reactive shield.

Still, high yield missiles would work.
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>>1114163
Nope. Just use a radio analyzer. It can specifically track radio and radar to their source.
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>>1114035
>>1114054

Thanks. Not really interested in statting bits out but I think I can use it as a basis for a decent Ace Custom.
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>>1114163
I would rather not have her alive for more than a few minutes when we get our hands on her. Too much of a threat for too little information that we can get from other sources. I'd rather eliminate her swiftly and without mercy than even give her the chance to try anything at all.
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>>1114151
its base weight was 32.5 tons prior to weight efficiency which brought it down to 19.5

though I forgot how to calculate the reactive shields weight so it might be heavier...
its a mega heavy (45 base cp cost) reactive shield with -2 DA and 0 reset time and enough space efficiency to put it in 1 space.
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>>1114174
I also forgot to mention the anti-missile variable beam gun it has, heres the thing:

Heavy Ball 3 (“humanoid” mech)
Mega heavy Torso: C/S/K: 22, 11 tons
Armor:
Mega Heavy Gamma Armor (1): (22 CP, 11 SP, DC 8, 5.5 tons)
Main Sensors (Torso, -3 Awareness): 4 CP, 1 Space, 2 Kills, 1 ton
Frame Total: 48 CP, 17.5 tons
Options: Torso Cockpit with Environment Pod (2 CP, 2 Spaces), Anti-Theft code lock+ (.4 cp), Liftwire (0.3 CP), Spotlights (0.2 CP), Stereo (.1 cp), Torso Weapon Mount (2 CP, 2 spaces ), Torso Shield Mount (2 CP, 2 spaces)
Armament:
Torso Mounted Warpick: 8k, WA+2, AP, 16 Spaces, 16 CP, 8 tons
Torso Beam Wave: 6k, Range 1000m, WA+1, Variable (Anti-missile), 1 space, 35.8 CP (11.5 CP of space efficiency, 1 ton (fragile)
Large Standard Gamma Torso shield: DA 0, DC 8, 10 SP, 30 CP, 5 tons
Torso Reactive Shield: 15 SP, -2 DA, Reset 0, Cost 134.5 CP, 1 space (44.5 CP space efficiency), 1 ton (?)
Thrusters & Speed: 400m per turn in flight, 10 thrusters all in torso, 10 CP
277 CP, 32.5 tons
Cost Multipliers:
Beam Refract Cloaking: (-1 from incoming beam damage, 0.1x)
304.7 CP
26 CP of weight efficiency
330.7, 19.5 tons, -1 MV

I'm 90% sure I've calced something wrong.
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>>1114207
Bit of an aside, but reactive shields do not use DA since they are completely automatic.
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>>1114221
oh sweet, the -2 DA was just the default setting so thats what I used, forgot it was only for active or standard
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>>1114207
...how the hell did you do that? You can only have armor two sizes heavier than the servo, same for shields.
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>>1114229
it's only 1 servo, the Torso, which is Mega heavy.
it has no arms, legs, heads or wings. to hold its melee weapon and its standard shield it uses 2, 2 CP weapon mounts
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>>1114241
...yeah, I'm pretty sure that you aren't allowed to make a single servo mecha.
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>>1114248
got the idea from these things, just got rid of the dinky arms and replaced them with weapon mounts basically.
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>>1114259
Now that I think of it... it's more like the vogler sphere from Giant robo. Also can't find any rules against having just a torso servo, just rules saying that you must have at least a torso servo. Probably something to ask wong, not that this thing will likely be used.
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>>1114292
try Mekton Zeta page 56. Both Humanoid and beast Mecha are assumed to have at least six servos.
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Not really related to the topic at hand, but Gundam Breaker 3 is a very good game. Although I find it funny that it both has better and worse customization than MS Saga.
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>>1114314
So... I could make it a tank form mech and all it would be missing is an optional head then?
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>>1114331
yes. Remember that a tank has -2mv thanks to errata. Personally, I think they should have balanced all forms at -0 or -1 mv, then added in an additional penalty to low servo machines.
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>>1114343
I thought the tank penalty was -1MV?
even with -2 though that'd just put the sphere at -3
well as is with wong's ruling that tank forms can't fly without wings the most this thing can do in gravity is like... hover or jet hop from place to place.
>additional penalty to low servo machines
tank form mecha tend to have fewer servos as they at most use a head, a torso and maybe legs since arms are pointless for them. But I could definitely see a MV penalty for the sphere since rolling a giant ball around space might get a bit awkward.

I did also make a version of it with a large arm attached to it. though that one can't be a tank from cause of that...
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>>1114367
Yeah, Its just that low servo machines tend to be very strong because they can mount very heavy armor while remaining surprisingly light. My penalties would be as follows:
-3 mv for 1 servo machines
-2 mv for 2-3 servo machines
-1 mv for 4-5 servo machines.
Both tanks and fighters would work at -1 mv base.
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>>1114367
oh wait I see, the errata entry, so yeah that puts the sphere at -3MV, also there was another errata entry there that said that only humanoid or beast mechs take a penalty for having their main sensors in the torso, so the tank form sphere has full vision it seems.

>>1114379
that would put the sphere at -5, which honestly seems fitting if its like the vogler sphere
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>>1114379
would pod servo's count in that system? since thats one of the few hardpoints tanks can use aside from heads and torso
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>>1114394
Yes. Although I would probably also specify that it only counts servos within a certain size of the torso servo to prevent you from doing stupid things like adding superlight wings to a mega heavy torso.
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>>1114401
makes sense, though... what if I just buy like 2 decently large pod servos and fill them with maneuver verniers equivalent to like a +5 MV bonus (25 spaces), or were maneuver verniers one of the things banned?
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>>1114379
Are you talking about that "Mechatank form mechs all have an additional -1 MV" or whatever it says at the end of the ATM?
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>>1114343
>>1114379
>>1114449
Oops, wrong post.
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>>1114449
thats the one I think, heres a snip of it.
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>>1114449
yes.
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>>1114446
That would cost a lot of CP a the higher levels, so that's cool. Also hideously vulnerable to damage.
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>>1114460
You're wrong then, that's referencing the Corebook, where mechatank form didn't have any MV penalty because they forgot to add it. Tank form only has -1 MV. We ran into the same problem 3 or 4 threads ago.
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>>1114461
well with 3 Armored heavy pods I could get a +10 MV bonus for 50 spaces and a doubled mech cost, I could easily sacrifice some reactive shield SP or the beam refract coating for that
that would put the sphere in the same cost bracket as the squilla I think (5-600 or so?)

not that it really matters, -5MV wuld be fine for a chunky mech

>>1114462
ok so under current rules the sphere here: >>1114218
would have -2 MV then if I made it a tank?
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>>1114474
Yep. You wouldn't get a turret since you only have 1 servo though, so any mech with hands that got close could get behind and pin you. You'd be in trouble then, since I'm pretty sure those rules are based off weight and you weigh less than half of almost every other mech and you would only be able to fire forward.

It would get rid of the awareness penalty though, since that only applies to humanoid, avian, and beast form mech. And give you 13 SP of armor.
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>>1114493
can they grapple though a reactive shield?
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>>1114506
ooh for an additional 30 CP I could get a 50K ablative reactive shield to go under the other reactive shield, essentially giving me an extra 50 hp.
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>>1114506
I dunno. You could always break it with melee though. Doing 12 K of damage an action is pretty easy (and cheap, 12 CP) since putting Quick on melee weapons is basically required. It gets worse with AP, it's the bane of tank mechs since they always have less structural kills (and spaces) than humanoid mechs unless they're really small.
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>>1114533
Wait, I'm confusing my systems. Ignore this.
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>>1113840
sooooooo.......
nobody want to talk about this or?
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>>1114642
This has been talked about before, and in most cases it seems that the ship forces would be akin to Roarke commanding the lot, with Captains commanding their crews. Oda, Flint, and Harlock will likely be upper management for those positions, but as is we still need to build up our fleet.
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>>1114642
>planning on dying

That's how you lose, bucko.
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>>1114663
>>1114660
i actually think the idea of just us and a bunch of captains as idiotic.
also what? i never mentioned planing for death

we need a chain of command.otherwise we would have to deal with captains of less and greater skill at leadership or mecha fighting, being in the same positions a fool and a master. each with the same level of power? and if we did die, it would break out into a civil war over who the next admiral will be .
this is simple stuff that has to be answered it just cant be us at the top and then everyone else!
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>>1114691
Well Miles is our First Mate, and in charge of Basically all the Kestrels day to day operations...
I Guess if we bite the big one the Belt falls into the hands of Admiral LongShadow
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>>1114691
The issue is that it also sets a sort of situation where shimmying up to the Admiral can get you into a seat of power even if you are not skilled. With the captain situation, the lesser captains with less merit have a weaker word in terms of say. After all, they may all be equal, but just as the Paladins are equal there is still a hierarchy to them.
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>>1114702
yes. as scary as that is, she would run it good.
however if we don't give her some symbol of power to deter some the competition in that scenario it wont mater.
she would have the rinehawke and it's people. but that's only one ship in hundreds(at the least, i don't want to die until we get all of the belt and thousands of ships.). we've seen how effective the jovian tactic of flesh throwing can be. sooner or later they would die under a sea of blood and flesh.
we need a proper command structure and a way to pick the best successor to admiralship
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>>1114716
>lesser captains
? there wont be any, and even if there are lesser captains (the greater captains being FLEET COMMANDER'S and REAR-ADMIRALS and such)
if you are worried about power grabbing, there's nothing we can do about it,or the corruption. we will promote them when they show the skill and moral fiber for leadership.
to talk about the equal thing.
they aren't equals. there are men meant to lead and can, like us, and those that will follow. that's how humans are. natural leader's are a thing
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>>1114718
Now how do we make Miles a Commodore without her flaunting it in everyone else's face forever?
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>>1114747
Realize we can't, do it anyway?
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>>1114747
how do we stop her from flaunting the title of first mate?
we don't, she's deserves the title. she earned it.
wong said that she could be the planetary gov. if she wanted to be one
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>>1114761
>>1114762
Well then
All Hail Commodore Longshadow, May Jove have mercy on the souls of her enemies and may the gods of Rock spare our souls for unleashing her upon the Sea of Stars
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>>1114738
I'm talking about lesser in terms of skill and leader ship. A captain that flees the battle will likely be treated poorly and have less say. Likewise, more skilled and prosperous captains would have more say since they speak from experience. Getting a tug boat and saying you are a captain does not put you on Oda's level, and unless you are capable of growing, you would be doing milk runs.
And thats the thing; We. Roarke is basically setting up a state in a huge area. Centeralizing the power to a small group is a bad idea. Likewise, Roarke will not always be Admiral. Eventually the job will be passed down, but if the only possible Admirals are those who are in the vice-admiral and the like seats, then choices are slimmed down. Then the new Admiral decides who he gets to pick for those roles and skews it more that way. That can go really bad in a short amount of time, since it's easy for someone to fall for praise and put up someone without knowing their character.
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I'm looking through the Rogues' Gallery and I noticed something: The Flowerhorn has -5 MV. We should probably improve that.
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>>1114782
iF THEY ARE VICE FUCKING ADMIRALS. then they deserve to be in that position more then the captain does because they are better and leading! also! we wil not be recruiting some asshle that stole a ship, even if they stole and gave it to us they would be going to a military boot camp because we are to big to just grab people and declare them kestrels !
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I'm sleepy again and just got back on this thread...
...And I don't know exactly why you were discussing it again, but Dutch had already proved that the penalty for Tanks is -1MV.


>>1114800
Wait... Are you advocating for intermediary positions between Roarke and the Captains?

Desnecessary, Admiral is a position like "Emperor" here, getting passed down through the generations of Starwinds.... The Captains decide who has more autority by seniority and sheer power, with the Starwind giving the final opinion.

Problem solved.
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>>1114813
no.nononononononononononono
god damn it people do you even know how a military is supposed to function?!
what if our great grand whatever is a pissant pacifist vegan that could be beaten by a child?
do you want someone like that in charge of a military?
we are the "pirate king" as well as admiral. our family line will inherit the "pirate king"not the admiral position. you only get that high if you are worthy in skill and moral fiber not because you inherit it like a noble that live's on lard and chocolate!
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>>1114800
And you miss the entire point. Just because you can lead does not mean you are impervious to politics and bullshit. A charismatic leader can fall to wiles easily if they are not careful and if they do, then their pick of vice admiral can pick who they want based on who they deem as 'good leaders'. That can lead to bribery, sycophancy, and general corruption.
And denying people because we are too big and not giving them even a chance is exactly how you get into the sort of elitist shit that has caused problems. The Captains, who have gotten where they are by merit and deeds should be the one who decide the next admiral, not the admiral alone. The admiral might have more sway due to his deeds, but he should not be the final and only voice.
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>>1114835
oh my god.
the admiral will pick his successor.
the vice admirals, in my kind of military, hell every one in my kind of military would not care for bribery or politics they have to defend the belt. not get money. also these "captains" would not be independents that join us. when we have a proper military, which we will, we will need officer's academy and place' to train our troop's and spy's and assassin's
you are thinking about now and that i mean now. i mean when we are ready to secure independence from the jovian and martians. not know, but later, month's and year's from now. when we are a nation, a fractured military, were every voice is heard? nothing would get done at all
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>>1082116
I just noticed Roarke has +4 Education, which is supposed to be equivalent to a Master's or a Doctorate. That's actually really impressive for a guy who never went to College. Hell, I don't think Roarke ever graduated High School.
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>>1114902
he went to school?
well i guess he had his mom dad and bro
said bro was rather smart. bitch who killed him is going to die a long painful death
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Rolled 4, 9, 8, 1, 9, 1, 8, 1, 3, 10 = 54 (10d10)

Testing Something...
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>>1114902
He was being groomed by Captain Ozark to take over. I assume that this would cover a variety of subjects relevant to running a pirate crew.
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Rolled 2, 1, 2 = 5 (3d10)

>>1114919
Rerolling Ones...
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Rolled 9 (1d10)

>>1114930
Just... Wow.
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>>1114935
I wasn't going to say anything, but yeah.
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>>1114950
Yeah, I was randomly rolling a statline and, well...

>Attractiveness: 4
>Body Type: 9
>Cool: 8
>[Stability]: 20
>Empathy: 2
>Intelligence: 9
>[Education]: 9
>Luck: 8
>Movement Allowance: 2
>Reflexes: 3
>Technical Ability: 10

He's a crippled, sociopathic genius who is kinda unattractive. Like an evil Stephen Hawking.

Except he's also fit as fuck.
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>>1115018
>crippled
>fit as fuck
He took skipping leg day to the extreme.
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how do you roll dice again?
i wanna try now
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>>1115042
"dice+10d10" in the options/email field.
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Rolled 1, 5, 1, 10, 1, 9, 9, 5, 2, 6 = 49 (10d10)

>>1115048
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Rolled 4, 6, 4 = 14 (3d10)

>>1115053
huh
reroll the one's
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>>1115061
RIP Mechbay.
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Rolled 1, 3, 10, 2, 8, 1, 7, 4, 1, 10 = 47 (10d10)

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>Attractiveness: 4
>Body Type: 5
>Cool: 6
>[Stability]: 20
>Empathy: 10
>Intelligence: 4
>[Education]: 9
>Luck: 9
>Movement Allowance: 5
>Reflexes: 2
>Technical Ability: 6
i think i did this right.
he certainly doesn't pilot mecha
what would someone with these number's be like?
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>>1115079
A diplomat.
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>>1115079
>reflexes

>2

Fuck.

On the plus side, he could burn so much luck.
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>>1115090
he doesn't do mecha.
he does peace talk's
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>>1115079
Int 4
Education 9
Something seems off with that
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>>1115099
i honestly don't understand what that means?
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>>1115079
Stability is Cool X 2.5 btw.

>>1115018
Clearly, this the man who designed the Myrmidon.
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>>1115106
He's stupid but has had a lot of education.
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>>1115113
Maybe he's just autistically good at memorizing things, but has a problem with actually thinking things through
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>>1115108
fck
>Attractiveness: 4
>Body Type: 5
>Cool: 6
>[Stability]:15
>Empathy: 10
>Intelligence: 4
>[Education]: 9
>Luck: 9
>Movement Allowance: 5
>Reflexes: 2
>Technical Ability: 6
what does stability do again?
also i decided his name shall be ander braun
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Rolled 4, 7, 3, 7, 8, 6, 2, 9, 7, 5 = 58 (10d10)

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>>1115125
Huh no 1's or 10's

>Attractiveness: 4
>Body Type: 7
>Cool: 3
>[Stability]:7
>Empathy: 7
>Intelligence: 8
>[Education]: 6
>Luck: 2
>Movement Allowance: 9
>Reflexes: 7
>Technical Ability:5
An unattractive Nerd who can't keeps his cool and has no luck...
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Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>1115117
It's your Social Defense Stat.
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>>1115136
Surprisingly Fit though.
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>>1115140
eh?
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>>1115143
Gotta Work out all that frustration yo
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Rolled 4, 2, 2, 9, 5, 1, 7, 10, 10, 7 = 57 (10d10)

Shit man I don't even have the pdf.
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Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>1115148
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Rolled 6, 1, 4, 7, 10, 3, 8, 9, 9, 3 = 60 (10d10)

Gonna roll for shits and giggles
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Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>1115153
Rerolling 1 which seems to be body type
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>>1115148
>>1115150

>Attractiveness: 4
>Body Type: 2
>Cool: 2
>[Stability]: 5
>Empathy: 9
>Intelligence: 5
>[Education]: 6
>Luck: 7
>Movement Allowance: 10
>Reflexes: 10
>Technical Ability:7

So he's a sickly, kind of ugly, crazy motherfucker. But he'll read you like an open book. At least he's fast.

Or I'm wrong since i don't have the pdf.
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>>1115145
It's what people need to beat in order to seduce you.
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>>1115197
huh.
well okay then
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Rolled 8, 1, 2, 8, 8, 2, 9, 5, 10, 4 = 57 (10d10)

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Rolled 2 (1d10)

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>>1115202
So many 2 rerolls.
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>>1115200
>>1115202

>Attractiveness:8
>Body Type:2
>Cool:2
>[Stability]:5
>Empathy:8
>Intelligence:8
>[Education]:2
>Luck:9
>Movement Allowance:5
>Reflexes:10
>Technical Ability:4
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>>1115210
so...a hot-headed, nancy, pretty-boy with loads of potential?
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>>1115210
a very attractive socially awkward nerd
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I was looking through the Career Paths thing and plotting Inari's life when I realized she'd get something like 18 Advancements. Admittedly, 10 of those advancements are "Housewife."




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