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>>1756484
You order your forces to begin a light probing attack, meanwhile you yourself in your restored alien UFO will attempt to clear the mines from the streets, before drenching yourself in some captured ooze scraped from the bodies of marked men who seemingly manage to walk through the tunnelers unharmed.

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Courier - UFO

Riddick with Bounty PA
Cain with BoS PA
The Devils Brigade
Hazel with Bounty Hunter PA
AXE MAN with PA
Ed-E

>1 Command Platoon + TACT bot
>Traits:[!ZAX! Super Biohazard Exoarmor] (Weapons:Plasma/Laser) {Experienced Veteran Leaders}{Veteran Infantry} {Augmented!} **Command Unit**

11 Securitrons MKV Squads (8R)
2 MKV Hazard-Salvager Securitron Squads (5R)
2 Sentry Shield-Juggernaut Minigunners (5R)
19.5 Securitrons MKV Hazard Bot Squads (8R)
6 Small Flyer Repairbots Squads (10R)
25 Spy-Eye Bots Squads
1 GIANT ROBO SCORPION
1 Super Heavy Omni-Constructor
3 Universal Loader Squads
2 Heavy Hazard Bastion (5R) - {Light Mechinzed}

Chinese Allies:
1 Artillery Platoon (1T) [!ZAX! Super Biohazard Exoarmor]
1 Bawang Platoon (1T) [!ZAX! Super Biohazard Exoarmor]
1 Flame Platoon (2T) [!ZAX! Super Biohazard Exoarmor]

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>>1756484
Updated the book thoughts from the last thread + new Executor propaganda piece

>Why the American way of life? What defines America or being an American.
The original American way of life was one of hard work, equal opportunity and the feeling that you wanted the life of your children to be better than your own. People would come from all over the world so that they could each live out their own version of the "American Dream" In this day and age, that may seem like fanciful thinking but we are making the old American dream a reality. We seek to imbue within our citizens a desire for continuous improvement and refinement of body, mind and moral strength.

If you happen to be reading this book, and you feel down on your luck, or that your safety is in question, or if you want a better life for yourself or your children - feel free to come visit and take in the sights. Our nation has a place for you, so long as you are willing to put in the work to make it your own.

>What is your model of government and why do you support it:
An Enlighted Representative Dictatorship in which the Courier presides over the nation for life as its sole ruler with supreme power. This model allows for long-term strategic planning, short-term decision making and provides a mechanism by which the voice of the people is conveyed.

Our task of governance is supported by a number of elected officials. As our nation gets larger, local elections will be held for town Mayors - when a town has enough population for its own Construction / CIV action. Supervising Mayors would be civilian Regional Governors, who we would appoint personally. The Mayor would appoint his own Sheriff and would be in charge of the town’s police forces, the Governor would be in charge of the National Guard for his region.

Each region would elect a minimum of 2 Senators (more allocated based on population to a max of 10) who would sit under us in a national legislature in New Washington. They would work to draft laws. These are not voted on, but are submitted to the Executor who decides whether to enact them or not.

>Thoughts on the Old World? On the New World?
The old world had its flaws. Some citizens among my nation were even alive to see it. The resource wars that ended up with the world we know today, the corruption of the corporations, the inside politics. The old world America, had its ups and downs and eventually the faults won the day, but there is a lot to be learned and replicated. That's why I gave our nation the symbol of the phoenix. We aren't just the old America coming to life again, we are a new America that has learned the mistakes of the past, and seek to better ourselves going forward.

(1/2)

>>1756503
>Your thoughts on the factions of the wasteland:
- The Enclave started out with the highest ideals centred around the restoration of America in this new world. However, over time this grand dream was twisted and perverted due to poor leadership. The Enclave lost sight of their goal as their leadership determined that the majority of wastelanders were lost – as opposed to being lost sheep yearning for a strong guiding hand. It is my belief that the Enclave was simply misguided. Their soldiers were just following orders, and their officers chafed under a system of poor political leadership – thereby rending them unable to explore new paths.
- The NCR is embarking on the same path as the old Enclave – too focused on ‘racial purity’ and ‘superiority’. This can be seen in their interactions with the tribes. They have lost sight of the American Dream of shared opportunity and prosperity and instead can only picture a world in which a Californian soldier stamps out freedom in the name of purity and order.
- While Rome was an enviable superpower, her time has long since passed. The Legion are backward in seeking to return to these pre-tech times, times during which simple medical ailments were often fatal. This and their genocidal practices render them poor custodians of our shared future.
- The MLA are merely trumped up raiders and radicals, unwilling and unsuited to lead a true united nation.
- BOS tried to aid the wasteland and often succeeded. They should be respected for helping to defeat many threats over the years and for preserving pre-war knowledge and technology. However their hate for outsiders and for general nation building often resulted in their defeat as they were outpaced by the growth of others.

>Some life experiences you've had throughout the Mojave:
- Talk about Mr House and his capitalist ‘paradise’ of New Vegas – a divided society which accepted the poverty of the masses as long as the wealthy elite were appeased
- Talk about our adventure in the Divide, and how we became inspired to forge the PC by looking at the dream that was Hopeville

(2/3)

>>1756505
>Our views on family, community and relationships:
Why do so many communities put the enormous pressure of raising children in this burnt and scarred world on two people? The respect that I have for those who are able to shoulder this burden is enormous, but situation is not common America today for a variety of reasons. Many ‘new’ states search for a new family model, or desperately try and make an old model work – ignoring the new realities of our world. In doing so, they forgo something which has proven to work. The tribal family unit renders every man and woman a distant cousin, every resident a source of support in times of trouble, in times of struggle. A common people, a common goal – an America in which her citizens are bonded not only by blood, but by the phoenix and stripes, tied and taut between every man, woman and child. For those who wish to have their life defined only by their children and spouse than it is their decision, but they can breathe easier knowing that for anything they need help with, everyone will welcome them with open arms.

As our nation is founded on the promise of equal opportunity, is should flow naturally that men and women should be given equal rights and privileges. By granting this power to individuals, our government empowers them to enter and leave relationships as they so choose. While our government takes no stance on sexual orientation – it should be universally understood that procreation and child raising are the moral duty of each and every citizen if we are to reclaim our true birthright – a unified America.

(3/3)

>>1756503
>(more allocated based on population to a max of 10)
I disagree with an upper limit, it renders long term problems probable but we can deal with those as they come.

Besides that, sounds great.

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Rollan

>>1756503
>>1756505
>>1756507
Excellent anon. So long as its clear this is consensus this is going in the book at the end of the turn

>>1756503
>We seek to imbue within our citizens a desire for continuous improvement and refinement of body, mind and moral strength.
I feel this needs to be expanded more, please use this.
>"I believe the American way of life is that of improvement and refinement of body, mind, skills and virtuous character, that every American has a duty to make themselves and their community better. It is my hope that Americans will pursue a stoic development of themselves."

>>1756517
Maybe add something about helping each other do it too, feed into that whole community thing some more.

>>1756517
I won't copy everything out again, but I am fine with this expansion.

Generally supportive of the rest?

>>1756507
Also i don't like how the last bit sounds, i don't want our people to practice open relationships.

>>1756520
I support it. Good stuff.

>>1756520
Agreed on my part.


Now should we begin outlining another section of the book. Perhaps get that group of scientists who are figuring out our new economic system to help us discuss that? Maybe discussing our overall military beliefs? We could attempt to outline if we are going to be going "wipe the slate clean" or "we remember" in regards to actions performed before joining the Phoenix.

>>1756512
Hey QM, is what >>1756505 Says about the Enclave true? Did the Soldiers not know they were preforming Genocide?

>>1756524
Thanks for reminding me, that entire section sounds horrifyingly wrong to me compared to what I wrote the first time round.

It makes no mention of them being raised in isolation and only knowing what their leaders would allow them about the wasteland for example.

>>1756529
If you can write another version i can make another book thought post with it.
I'll also be removing that small piece about open relationships, it really bothers me.

>>1756521
It was generally agreed that we'd want the government to stay out dictating relationships beyond encouraging procreation. Happy to hear your alternative suggestion though.

>>1756523
>Economic system / past history of new citizens
Both very worthy topics of discussion.

I'd say let the scarcity followers outline their ideas to us and we can add them in. As to citizens past, I think it should be on a case-by-case basis.

>>1756529
Yeah my bad, that is a solid addition r.e. isolation leading to brainwashing by their political elite.

>>1756534
>It was generally agreed that we'd want the government to stay out dictating relationships beyond encouraging procreation. Happy to hear your alternative suggestion though.
My only problem is the bit about open relationships
>By granting this power to individuals, our government empowers them to enter and leave relationships as they so choose.
I think we should remove it, and it leaves the rest of the post fine so we don't have to rewrite it.

>>1756538
Fine with that change.

>>1756524
>Did the Soldiers not know they were preforming Genocide?
>Moreno
"There wasn't any Genocide. It was war! We followed our orders.

If those orders meant some people had to die for the survival of our country, we took them in stride. Anyone who was brave or stupid enough to take on one of us in our power armors deserved what they got.

Our plan was to make America great again, clean of raiders and scum. If that meant accepting harsher methods we did them. It ain't no different from us having to get rid of these Marked Men in our way.

It was war. . ."

>Arcade
[Gives you a look and furrows his brow]

*whsiper* "You should have talked to Johnson while he was still with us. Perhaps then you might have a more honest picture."

>>1756531
"The Enclave were a failed dream: a true continuation of the american government of the old world and true, pure, humans untainted by radiation. Yet this fact is also their downfall, as the Enclave's leaders decided that the people of the wastes were too far gone. As much as the supermutants or the ghouls who we shared the wastes with. Thus their decided that they would wipe the wastes of this perceived corruption.

But it must be noted that the people of the Enclave, the soldiers on the ground and all who survived the destruction of their Oil rig, had little if not no knowledge about the intent of the Enclave in regards to the waste. As their leadership didn't share their plans with the grunts, lest they be captured and let their enemies in the wastes know.

These survivors, who the NCR so ruthlessly man-hunted, can't be blamed for the actions of their leaders. Can't be held responsible for the actions of the few who led them and brainwashed them in isolation and controlled all they knew of the wastes. Who they were conditioned over generations to obey without question and were filled with vitriol and hate and certainty that they were right by their leaders. That in such isolation and ignorance, any man could easily fall prey to such treatment.

They were soldiers with orders, with little if not no knowledge of the overall plan. They weren't all genocidal maniacs and many did good for the wastes like, in the case of one, attempting to reverse the radiation's effects on human genetics and thus save the wastelanders. However their leaders saw to snub this project out in due time."


Anything to change?

>>1756544
Welp, looks like the enclave bit is accurate, the soldiers were just doing as they were told.

>>1756546
>and all who survived the destruction of their Oil rig
I think this is wrong, just use the soldier bit.

>>1756548
You imagine being raised like they were, your entire life being trained to obey and follow, never to think or feel or question. To be a soldier: a weapon, a tool and entirely expendable to your leaders.


It's almost sad in a way. The Enclave's soldiers were better people than their leaders by a long mile.

>>1756550
Hey it's known that some did survive the Oil rigs explosion and that is what that means. It doesn't imply any links between them and us if that is what you are worried about.

Alright here's the new version.


>Why the American way of life? What defines America or being an American.
The original American way of life was one of hard work, equal opportunity and the feeling that you wanted the life of your children to be better than your own. People would come from all over the world so that they could each live out their own version of the "American Dream" In this day and age, that may seem like fanciful thinking but we are making the old American dream a reality. We seek to imbue within our citizens a desire for continuous improvement of the body, mind, skills and virtuous character, that every American has a duty to make themselves and their community better. It is my hope that Americans will pursue a stoic development of themselves.

If you happen to be reading this book, and you feel down on your luck, or that your safety is in question, or if you want a better life for yourself or your children - feel free to come visit and take in the sights. Our nation has a place for you, so long as you are willing to put in the work to make it your own.

>What is your model of government and why do you support it:
An Enlighted Representative Dictatorship in which the Courier presides over the nation for life as its sole ruler with supreme power. This model allows for long-term strategic planning, short-term decision making and provides a mechanism by which the voice of the people is conveyed.

Our task of governance is supported by a number of elected officials. As our nation gets larger, local elections will be held for town Mayors - when a town has enough population for its own Construction / CIV action. Supervising Mayors would be civilian Regional Governors, who we would appoint personally. The Mayor would appoint his own Sheriff and would be in charge of the town’s police forces, the Governor would be in charge of the National Guard for his region.

Each region would elect a minimum of 2 Senators (more allocated based on population to a max of 10) who would sit under us in a national legislature in New Washington. They would work to draft laws. These are not voted on, but are submitted to the Executor who decides whether to enact them or not.

>>1756544
Yes, you were at war Moreno, and good soliders follow orders.

Man, I feel bad for these guys now...I think deep down they know that what they did was wrong. Let's not break their belief though - it accomplishes nothing now.

>>1756554
>>Thoughts on the Old World? On the New World?
>The old world had its flaws. Some citizens among my nation were even alive to see it. The resource wars that ended up with the world we know today, the corruption of the corporations, the inside politics. The old world America, had its ups and downs and eventually the faults won the day, but there is a lot to be learned and replicated. That's why I gave our nation the symbol of the phoenix. We aren't just the old America coming to life again, we are a new America that has learned the mistakes of the past, and seek to better ourselves going forward.

>Your thoughts on the factions of the wasteland:
- The NCR is embarking on the same path as the old Enclave – too focused on ‘racial purity’ and ‘superiority’. This can be seen in their interactions with the tribes. They have lost sight of the American Dream of shared opportunity and prosperity and instead can only picture a world in which a Californian soldier stamps out freedom in the name of purity and order.
- While Rome was an enviable superpower, her time has long since passed. The Legion are backward in seeking to return to these pre-tech times, times during which simple medical ailments were often fatal. This and their genocidal practices render them poor custodians of our shared future.
- The MLA are merely trumped up raiders and radicals, unwilling and unsuited to lead a true united nation.
- BOS tried to aid the wasteland and often succeeded. They should be respected for helping to defeat many threats over the years and for preserving pre-war knowledge and technology. However their hate for outsiders and for general nation building often resulted in their defeat as they were outpaced by the growth of others.
Cont.

>>1756555
It's the oldest defence of the soldier. "I followed my orders", like a child saying that it's not their fault they did the bad thing: they were told to by someone they were to obey.


It's the problem with modern soldiers. We've gotten too good at making them obey their orders like clockwork men.

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>>1756548
And that is indeed the excuse claimed by many Enclave personnel captured after the war.

However, during the Los Angeles trials by the NCR this did not hold up. Surviving Enclave personell who were captured were tried and convicted of Conspiracy to Genocide with mounting evidence of wiped out villages, engaging in slavery and abduction, and a supposed plan to unleash a virus that would kill all non-pure humans. Most enclave remnants flatly refuse these claims.

[Per 8]
But from what you've heard of Doc Henry, it actually sounds credible.

>>1756554
- The Enclave were a failed dream: a true continuation of the american government of the old world and true, pure, humans untainted by radiation. Yet this fact is also their downfall, as the Enclave's leaders decided that the people of the wastes were too far gone. As much as the supermutants or the ghouls who we shared the wastes with. Thus their decided that they would wipe the wastes of this perceived corruption.
But it must be noted that the people of the Enclave, the soldiers on the ground and all who survived the destruction of their Oil rig, had little if not no knowledge about the intent of the Enclave in regards to the waste. As their leadership didn't share their plans with the grunts, lest they be captured and let their enemies in the wastes know.
These survivors, who the NCR so ruthlessly man-hunted, can't be blamed for the actions of their leaders. Can't be held responsible for the actions of the few who led them and brainwashed them in isolation and controlled all they knew of the wastes. Who they were conditioned over generations to obey without question and were filled with vitriol and hate and certainty that they were right by their leaders. That in such isolation and ignorance, any man could easily fall prey to such treatment.
They were soldiers with orders, with little if not no knowledge of the overall plan. They weren't all genocidal maniacs and many did good for the wastes like, in the case of one, attempting to reverse the radiation's effects on human genetics and thus save the wastelanders. However their leaders saw to snub this project out in due time.
^Show this to Arcade to see if it's fine.

>Some life experiences you've had throughout the Mojave:
- Talk about Mr House and his capitalist ‘paradise’ of New Vegas – a divided society which accepted the poverty of the masses as long as the wealthy elite were appeased
- Talk about our adventure in the Divide, and how we became inspired to forge the PC by looking at the dream that was Hopeville
- Talk about the Vaults and the stories within(Especially Vault 11)

>>1756562

>Our views on family, community and relationships:
Why do so many communities put the enormous pressure of raising children in this burnt and scarred world on two people? The respect that I have for those who are able to shoulder this burden is enormous, but situation is not common America today for a variety of reasons. Many ‘new’ states search for a new family model, or desperately try and make an old model work – ignoring the new realities of our world. In doing so, they forgo something which has proven to work. The tribal family unit renders every man and woman a distant cousin, every resident a source of support in times of trouble, in times of struggle. A common people, a common goal – an America in which her citizens are bonded not only by blood, but by the phoenix and stripes, tied and taut between every man, woman and child. For those who wish to have their life defined only by their children and spouse than it is their decision, but they can breathe easier knowing that for anything they need help with, everyone will welcome them with open arms.

As our nation is founded on the promise of equal opportunity, is should flow naturally that men and women should be given equal rights and privileges. While our government takes no stance on sexual orientation – it should be universally understood that procreation and child raising are the moral duty of each and every citizen if we are to reclaim our true birthright – a unified America.


And done, what does everyone think?

>>1756557
So its important that we include the clause that our soldiers are to not obey orders that are illegal.

>>1756557
It is not a problem with the soldiers - it is a problem with leaders who order them to commit immoral actions.

You cannot have an effective military if individual soldiers can decide if they want to follow some orders and not others.

Strict chain of command exists for a reason/. Unfortunately, unethical leaders can abuse that.

>>1756563
Good enough for now, we might need to expand some of it later.

Now we can move onto detailing another section.

>>1756564
I'd agree to that but then you run into the problem proposed by the Anon below.

>>1756565
True which is why the soldiers must be able to declare their superiors unfit for leadership or something. That or we need to have a moral maintenance group or something.

>>1756546
Maybe tone down the genocidal accusations a bit. We want to ally with the remnant after all - we don't them to hate us nor the wasteland hate the Enclave.

It may not strictly be 'true' but it serves our political purpose.

>>1756554
>>1756556
>>1756563
>>1756562
Sounds good to me, supporting.

>>1756569
I don't think we need to actually implement anything. We just need to train all new officers in moral leadership.

The security of the nation and the safety of soldiers come first, but moral strength should always be considered.

>>1756561
I'm guessing that the majority of those convicted in these trials faced the death penalty and cannot be rescued - correct?

It would be a great loss of knowledge and talent.

>>1756574
Eh, it's not like the Remnant wouldn't know about what their fellows tried to do and shit. I can see your point but still. We can give them a copy and explain that we've moderated it for distribution to anywhere in the wasteland so some of it, like their section.

As to the moral leadership, I understand and agree but we aren't probably going to be dealing with situations where war crimes might occur any time soon.

>>1756576
Either killed or imprisoned for life. Probably the first.

Knowing the NCR if it's the second, they are now being used for research.

>>1756562
Arcade asks to talk to you privately for a moment, and you do so in your UFO over the encrypted radio.

>Arcade
"The Enclave is a tricky subject. I think no matter what you write you're going to end up pissing someone off.

Truth be told, yes, the Enclave did, or attempted to do, what can equate to Genocide."

>You
[Do consider the alternative today is Caesar, and what Yaunker is most likely doing to the Tribals, these seem like acts on a greater scale.]

>Arcade
"Personally I'd almost call it an insult if the single redeeming quality is simply to say 'at least we aren't the Legion!'. And no, I am very concerned about what Yaunker proposes in his book as well. We can be better than that.

In any case the Enclave was decades ago, if there are any survivors they're either chidren raised away from Navarro like me or aged like the Devil's Brigade.

I was surprised to have seen the Enclave from the east. But if they are anything like the Enclave in California were, anything that isn't a complete white wash of 'righteous American obedience' won't please them.

I'm actually concerned myself. I can only hope they have a stronger moral code than the Enclave of Navarro, but it seems all too likely, they don't."

>>1756583
"They chose to evacuate rather than face down against their enemies, so they are at least less insane. I think they can be convinced of this compromise given time."

>>1756578
We'll the leaders in the Remnant might know, but as we talked about above, the common soldier probably has no idea. It's bad internal and external PR for them basically.

I'd tone it down to something like this:
>The Enclave represented a dream which ultimately failed. They were the true continuation of the american government of the old world and we're true, pure, humans untainted by radiation. Yet this fact is also their downfall, as the Enclave's political leaders - isolated in their oil rig - decided that the people of the wastes had abandoned the idea of America. This fact, coupled with the existance of vicious raiders and militant super mutants, drove them to embark upon a course of violence which ultimately led to their own destruction.
>But it must be noted that the people of the Enclave, the soldiers and scientists on the ground who escaped the destruction of the Oil rig, were just following orders and had no insight into the shadowy plans of their political leaders.
>These survivors, who the NCR so ruthlessly hunted down, can't be blamed for the actions of their leaders. Can't be held responsible for the actions of the deceased few who led them and brainwashed them in isolation and controlled all they knew of the wastes. In spite of their leader's desires, many acted in the interests of the wasteland - such as one Doctor's attempt to reverse the radiation's effects on human genetics. However their leaders saw to snub this project out in due time.

>>1756583
So Arcade is saying "don't talk about the enclave"?

>>1756587
No. That doesn't read right.

Between the fact it places the blame on the people of the wastes for "abandoning america" and it lacking the entire section placing blame on the leadership and their isolation rather than on the people.


>>1756590
Essentially. We can keep it as a unreleased section or something or wait to release this until we've gotten the Remnants in hand.

>>1756590
Problem is, the enclave would be the first or second thing we're compared to, with the NCR being the other, so we have to differentiate ourselves actively to avoid being painted by the "genocide" brush.

Why not open up the Enclave discussion to all of our enclave remnants QM. More opinions we have, we may be able to make a better decision.

>>1756594
That is true.

>>1756590
Quite the opposite. If the Enclave have to be talked about, it seems he's rather be honest about them. Not paint them as devils, but they were definitely not saints either. He does warn though that your hardliner like Moreno and the actual Enclave are probably not going to like it very much.

If anything though, he seems like he'd prefer the Pheonix Commonwealth to be the Enclave's redemption.

>>1756591
Well I said that the leaders were isolated and decided that people had left America, not that it was actually true.

It's to paint the old Enclave leadership as out of touch with reality - separating them from the common soldiers.

I don't think we should hype up the 'brainwashed' angle, as that'll play badly with the remnant.

It may be safer to say nothing about the Enclave at this point...especially as they are not a majot faction and most people think that they're extinct anyway.

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>>1756512
You proceed to clear a path through the magnetic minefield, using your abducto-ray to pick up and drag large pieces of scrap metal on the ground detonating the mines and causing swaths of explosions. For added measure you strafe the ground with your heat ray as well.

As you get close to the city itself however, the Marked Men open fire on you from behind thick scrap barrier and fortifications.

Bullets and small laser arms plink against your craft. Not dangerous at all, but letting them frivolously hit you is a bad idea. However what really makes you turn back is a hit by an RPG and a heavy Plasma rifle, dangerous projectiles whiz by your craft. The ship reports a hit. You got cocky, and withdraw with light damage, but not before hosing them down with a splash of Heat Ray lighting swaths of marked men aflame and watching them dance and fail and fall over into corpses, and you follow up with a tactical mini-nuke that blows a hole clean through their wall and opening up a path into the city.

Meanwhile the rest of your forces move forward.

>>1756606
Agreed we maintain silence for now. Once we've integrated the Remnant we can think about this again.


Anyhow, this book is only about our life up until now and our current vision / beliefs. All of that could change and then we write another book.

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>>1756612
Your forces move forward, thus far no additional tunneler attacks are spotted.

Sentry-Shield Juggernauts lead the way followed by the MKV Hazard Bots, forming an impressive walking shield of heavy armor and lead which soaks up the Marked Men's massed fire. Here any again an RPG or a heavy Plasma strike hits them, only to be met with fearsome volleys of massed Securitron Rockets and then the terror of the Hazard Bastion Bots opening up with their heavy Gatling cannons.

The Marked Men take what cover they can behind their scrap wall, but all too often the massed autocanon fire punches through and turns their bodies into paste.

What's more, your Incendiary artillery now comes to good effect here, launching shells behind their wall burning yet more of them, while your UFO also fires its heat ray above your robots head from a distance.

As you close in, the rest of your robots lay down whithering fire of yet more gatling lasers and the new LAER bots. Napalm, electricity, lasers, and plasma pour in a concentrated arc of death directly on the Marked Mens walls like an unstoppable juggernaut.

The Marked Men withdraw from their wall and pull back deeper into the city.

>>1756649
Ah yes a wave of steel wearing down our enemies like a river-stone.


Seriously now all we need is the drones (which we received no input on) and we can have a true wall of death.

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>>1756649
Your forces pierce through their scrap wall, which coincidentally nets you some additional steel.

However, the great city looms overhead. Mangled twisted structures, skyscrapers in various conditions and overhead highways, ancient sewer systems below. Streets filled with rubble and debris and the promise of more defenses and tricks.

Furthermore, the weather takes a turn for the worst as a radioactive sandstorm, turning the air a glowing green and red, pours in. The unprotected non-Hazard robots stick close to the Hazard robots for protection, while your human troopers also stick close to each other kept alive by the miracle of your biohazard suits or the impressive bounty hunter and enclave power armor. The Alien PA seems well adapted for this setting, having seem to been built for planetary exploration.

You yourself now find yourself in the entrance of one the twisted underground tunnels beneath the city, these ones not dug by tunnelers but built by the hand of man.

>What do?

You know what. We should just start dismantling the city, one block at a time.

If they come for us, drive them back. No real need to push in so far that we run afoul of continuous traps. Eat the city whole.

>>1756657
Salvaging robots will cut this section scrap wall apart and additional non-salvaging robots can be used to take it back to the outpost for reprocessing into more defences and robots.

Meanwhile our troops and robots take up positions in the buildings and rubble to prevent counter attacks until this work is done.

While this occurs, a team of our best soldiers lead by our companions will proceed into the tunnel and secure it.


>>1756660
Agreed. We can rinse and repeat with ever increasing numbers and like the waves of the ocean, wear away this stone of resistance and material.

>>1756657
>You yourself now find yourself in the entrance of one the twisted underground tunnels beneath the city, these ones not dug by tunnelers but built by the hand of man.

Is this our solo excursion into the tunnels covered in the gloop?

>>1756666
Nah, that'd be if it was Tunnellers. This is just going to lead to an underground supply dump or a route of attack or something.


If we had some decent remote explosives and knew there was nothing of value, we could blow the tunnel.

>>1756657
Also, check in with our General and MAJOR as to their thoughts on how to proceed from here.

>>1756669

Could have been a tunnel that the marked men dug to link up with the tunnelers network. At least I just wanna double check with QM since there was some support for the stealth insertion.

>>1756670
Gimme a 1d100

>>1756669
Wed only really blow up the mouth. We have to go deeper to bring the entire thing down.

Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>1756681

>>1756657
Now is where we need Axebots, tight places are where they are needed and it's guaranteed tunnelers will pop up.

Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>1756681

>>1756682
A sizeable segment of the entrance tunnel should be fine. Something that they cannot excavate for some time due to man labour requirements.

>>1756684

Yea but thats not gonna help them with explosives and cave ins etc. Downstairs is viet kong land. We should just seal it up or pump it full of magma.

>>1756684
True but we lacked the time to produce them.


We could re-purpose some of this steel and shit into a few of them right now however.

>>1756693
Yeah, but if they have other entrances and exits we don't really do much. Other than prevent them from attacking from this location, which is a benefit.

>>1756693
>punp it full of magma

I wonder if our heat ray or laer weapons can heat up the surround walls of the tunnel to melt it. Then let the shit flow downhill and either kill everything or seal it down tight.

>>1756699

Thats good enough for now, me thinks. Isolate their tunnel network, make it hard for them to move about to bypass our lines, etc.

Actually, why not research and build some Devils tongue then send them into the tunnels followed by some bots?
http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Devil%27s_Tongue_subterranean_flame_tank

>>1756681
>>1756683
>Kreger
"We were lucky on open ground and flat terrain. Our mechanical forces are ideal for that. Now that we're entering the city proper that may be a disadvantage.

Even with new legs, there's going to be a stiff terrain diffuclty. The city is littered with debris, crater holes, and twisted steel. Marked men and tunnelers will have an easier time maneuvering here than our bulky robots.

Then there is also the presence of this tunnel network you found. That's a liability for us as well. I suggest clearing them out, and you and your companions may be better suited for that."

>MAJOR
"Urban combat. This is going to get messy. Oh well, lucky for us we're the only ones with heavy artillery and flamethrowers right? Those will come in handy. But these high buildings are going to need to be cleared one at a time.

Or blown up, but with our current firepower that will take a lot of time.

This would be better if we had more of everything. More artillery, more flamethrower tanks. For now we will have to divide up the city and secure it block by block and street by street. I suggest looking at your map and setting out an appropriate sector to clear first and turn into a forward safe zone."

>>1756700
Heat ray maybe, LAER's unlikely.

To be honest I kinda want to make a Bastion model with a slow firing high power LAER cannon but as a AT measure rather than a anti-infantry measure. Call it a..Thor? Thunder? Storm? Something anyway.


>>1756710
That'd take time we don't have for now.

>>1756713
"Would some tentacle bots be ideal for Urban combat?
>>1756714
>That'd take time we don't have for now.
Not really, it would take one turn before it's ready.

>>1756713
>But these high buildings are going to need to be cleared one at a time.
"Could we use the salvager and construction bots to weaken their structures? If so with precise control we could make them crash inwards or towards enemy lines, eliminating them and any defences they have.

Admittedly this would cost us anything they had and would make a ton of rubble and noise but it would be quick..."

>>1756713
Fine. Gather Riddick, Cain and Ed-E. Lets go spelunking. Grab flame throwers.

>>1756714
>To be honest I kinda want to make a Bastion model with a slow firing high power LAER cannon but as a AT measure rather than a anti-infantry measure.
The bastion should be capable of carrying that kind of weapon, i did specify in the design posts that it's weapons are customizable.

>>1756717
True, with our field construction abilities we could produce a few dozen from Divide salvage before moving in.

>>1756719
Don't forget Axeman and the Devil's brigade. Except for our esteemed general who should stick with our troops and help command.

>>1756720
Excellent.

>>1756717
>"Would some tentacle bots be ideal for Urban combat?"
>MAJOR
"Interesting concept. Sounds like it could work, but we'd need to build and deploy them."

>>1756718
>CEO
"Destroying a building takes time, but yes we are equipped for it. We still would need explosives, as it would be dangerous for our robots to attempt to chop them down like trees. . .

It would also increase the amount of rubble our own mechanical forces have to wade through, and may even block off certain sections of the city."

>>1756726
>"Interesting concept. Sounds like it could work, but we'd need to build and deploy them."
Here's a design, it's just an eyebot with tentacles but it should serve for our purposes.
http://matrix.wikia.com/wiki/Sentinel

>>1756726
>We still would need explosives
We made a ton of remote detonators and C 4 for covert ops. Should still have it lying around.

>It would also increase the amount of rubble our own mechanical forces have to wade through, and may even block off certain sections of the city."
I know which is my main problem with it. To be fair however if we get our air-force drones up and running that becomes less of a problem since they can suppress our enemies while the bots get into position no matter how long it may take.

Still, it's just an idea. Plus we could collapse them inward and merely have large piles of rubble to process rather than unstable towers.

>>1756729
Airforce doesn't win wars though, and we can't realistically expect to level the entire city.

>>1756728
We could also make a mix of these for a urban combat robot.
http://robotsupremacy.wikia.com/wiki/Omnidroid
http://ryanchurch.com/war-of-the-worlds/
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/50993219e4b0d2694880ff68/5099329fe4b0babc925326ac/5099329fe4b0babc925326ae/1317618232647/

>>1756738
>Airforce doesn't win wars

>MAJOR
"You ain't just using enough of it is what!"

>Kreger
"A proper air force would be a major advantage here, but as of now we only have 1 UFO and 1 Vertibird.

Certainly the NCR has come to appreciate it."

>>1756745
What I meant was, airforce is very muxh an important strategic asset, but when the objective is to seize and hold territory, planes are just incapable. Doing damage, yes, but not securing territory.

>>1756741
Actually here's a nice look for it
http://polycount.com/discussion/87474/vintage-scifi-robot

>>1756738
>>1756749
The goal of the air-force isn't to hold the land though but to prevent the Marked men assaulting our ground robots and troops as they move over the rubble by suppressing them. Thus allowing our troops the time they need.

Also seeing as our drone designs are based around hover engines, they can hold position over any region like a helicopter and chances are for a good time thanks to their fission batteries and shit. So they can hold land.

I say we establish a perimeter around the gains we've gotten so far and start clearing the tunnel. Get snipers up in position.
Use spybots to scout through buildings/surrounding area.

So what's next on the lost? OP gone for lunch while we wait and think of plans.

>No one wants to build tripods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfVery7sfVo

>>1756821
Tripods. Like Half life 2 skytowner large robots? Or the smaller quick hunter robots from the episodes.

:^( Half life 3 still not out. Half-life was my childhood

>>1756831
I don't know, i can't decide which i want.

Back, have you guys decided on consensus / more questions?

Got some good ideas going on.

>>1756836
Let's clear out the tunnels since we're covered with the stuff.

And they can blow up the buildings

>>1756839
And begin salvage operations while we do so. Make use of some of our construction robots to make some Axebots.

>>1756839
We really shouldn't go around blowing up the buildings.just makes things harder for us.

>>1756843
>>1756847
>>1756839
I agree, no to blowing buildings up

I'm still here and so are your companions if you have any questions / requests / suggestions for/from them. Just need consensus as usual

>>1756851
Can we use crushed concrete as the base for making hexacrete?

>>1756851
Inquire to CEO / RIG'D about gather the needed materials for more combat robots and Axebots specifically from the surround area and assembling them on site.

Also send some of our non-Hazard Securitrons down into the Tunnel first. It'll take them out of the storm and protect them from damage while giving us some serious firepower.

>>1756856
Certainly, although aggregate was never your real issue. Its more the various specific minerals found in your mines.

>>1756858
>CEO
"What? Scavenged robots? That's barbaric."

>RIG'D
"Hell I can do that. Not very advanced models, but I can build ya some sentry turrets and rig up some other goodies for ya. Though you melted a lot of the good bits."

>CEO
"Better to just melt them down entirely and reprocess them in my opinion."

>RIG'D
"Yeah, but that takes time don't it. Ya gotta bring all that metal back, melt it down, and pump out a new robot and then deliver it. My methods work on the field and on the spot."

Have the spybots scan the area and buildings for enemies and get snipers in position to secure the perimeter. Also supporting >>1756843, >>1756858, and >>1756839 except blowing up buildings.

>>1756858
>>1756839
Supporting these, but ni buildings being blown up.

>>1756879
Also supporting the eyebots and sniper. Part of this

Rolled 78, 65, 88 = 231 (3d100)

>>1756858
>>1756839
>>1756879
Alright, lets go with these then.

Roll me 3 1d100s!

Rolled 93 (1d100)

>>1756894

Rolled 74 (1d100)

>>1756894

Rolled 39 (1d100)

>>1756894

Just need one more

>>1756920
>>1756919
Oh nvm,

writing

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>>1756858
>Inquire to CEO / RIG'D about gather the needed materials for more combat robots and Axebots specifically from the surround area and assembling them on site.

>RIG'D
"Erecting a robot, coming right up."

The ZAX hijacks 5 Spy-Eye Bot Squads and uses them to locate "good bits". They search through old general stores, debris piles, scrap heaps, anything that looks like it might hold something remotely of value. Meanwhile the Salvager Securitrons drag a nearby workbench.

Masses of electric scrap, wires, and broken robot bits are brought into a pile. The Salvager Securitrons and the Repairbots begin assorting and assembling and whacking with tools.

Mainly the latter part.

He produces for your Junk Axe-Drones. Small, slow, not very armored but numerous enough and with deadly saws, rotary blades, and pointy bits on em. Axe Man loves them, immediately adopting them as his pets.

As these are battlefield junk models, they aren't by any means very sophisticated and you can only produce so much of them in a non-turn/battle phase. Inquire to CEO / RIG'D about gather the needed materials for more combat robots and Axebots specifically from the surround area and assembling them on site. But they add a pointy melee fodder to your army. .

+3 Platoons of Junk Axe-Drones (15R)

>con't

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>>1756858
You liberally pour yourself with the silvery clear stuff, and head into the tunnels. Meanwhile, your securitrons follow behind in collumn formation.

It seems the need for the goop was for naught, this is clearly no tunneler tunnel. Your perception indicates these walls are man made, not tunneler dug, and you are on high alert for mines and traps.

And everytime you come back, the traps get trickier. The Marked Men are specifically trying to plan against someone who knows how to disarm traps.

You know from experience that the moment the traps end, guards begin, and sure enough you see marked men patrols running about on the underground as the battle rages above.

You seem to have come upon a large hallway of sorts with a small minecart rail. Looking about you see it splits off into different hallways, some big enough for more minecarts, others small only enough for a human to walk through. You also note tiny little tunnels below that seem too small for anyone that isnt crawling to come through, though those seem markedly different from the rest.

You take caution before entering the crowded hallway, as there's a good chance you might be detected by someone bumping into you. It splits to the west, and to the east.

You consider launching an attack to clear the tunnels here and now, or leaving your robots behind to venture forward alone.

>What do?

>>1757234
Send for a platoon of junk Axe drones and advance ahead alone to the west.

>>1757235
What about the securitrons anon

>>1757234
Send for a platoon of junk Axe drones to the East, Send a platoon of Securitrons to the West.

We go in one of the hallways that can only fit a human.

>>1757245
They should hold position until we've investigated. Then we can figure out if we should attempt a fight down here or just seal the tunnel.

>>1757245
Supporting this.

>>1757249
I think we have more than 2 platoons with us. So maybe we have the two to check things out. While the others wait

>>1757245
This

>>1757245
>>1757265
2 for this
>>1757235
1 for this
>>1757249
1 for this

---

Meanwhile
>>1756879
Riddick, Cain, Hazel, and the Devils Brigade in their various power armors go to play the sniper game against the marked men in the buildings above.

Each have their own, preferred and highly effective weapon typically able to easily punch through even concrete, or cause dangerous shards of concrete and steel to spall out the othside.

Against them the odds are at least 5 to 1 as Marked Men with Sniper Rifles, Anti-Material Rifles and Gauss Rifles. Your followers take their shots and take them well before relocating in stealth, having much more experience than these, and their power armor protects them from all but direct shots.

Still, these are not at all good odds and it is only by the might of power armor, intensive training, superior weapons and ability, called artillery shots, and spy bots that your snipers are not utterly overwhelmed and chopped into fine ribbon.

For now they tie down the snipers from harrassing your robots, but its clear by the numbers they are being reinforced and more Marked Men are crawling their way forward.

>>1757245
support

>>1757304

Snipers are susceptible to swarms. Presently they are isolated and alone, though they will soon be reinforced.

>>1757234
Tunnels are amicable to melee combat, heavy units, and short range.

"Zax, could we retrofit our Hazard-Salvager Securitrons in the field to the melee variant you recommend?"

Rolled 58, 90, 89 = 237 (3d100)

>>1757245
Writing. Brb in a few hours though, gonna host more turns tonight.

Hopefully this weekend I'll be more free.

Roll me 3 1d100s!

Rolled 73 (1d100)

>>1757327

Rolled 62 (1d100)

>>1757327
ded

Rolled 42 (1d100)

>>1757327
Them rolls

Rolled 39 (1d100)

>>1757327
damn that's high

back writing

>>1757327
>>1757329
Twisted rebar and cracked concrete spires of ruined towers reach high into the sky, the twice slain corpses of buildings destroyed not by one nuclear holocaust, but two. The very air saturated with a thick dusty breeze that constantly flowed and collected, creating a slip hazard for the uncautious and daring who would even climb such high buildings when their staircases and elevators had long since fallen to decay.

Climbing up the cracked bones of the old world, two ghosts in the city of the dead. The air rippled as the figures with stealth boys moved, gifted the devices by the Courier, only the sound of clinking metal boots betraying the steel and titanium armor they work on their bodies. At full height they stood a foot or more over the average man.

One wore armor from beyond the stars, sealed air and respirator, and gyroservo’s graded to work on high or 0 gravity worlds. The other, a Knight of the Brotherhood of steel, wore a different set of armor than the clergy of California, betraying his heraldry from the lost Texas expedition. Each had a high powered rifle in their hands, perfect in every way thanks to the replicators of BigMT.

They were walking machines of death and destruction, armor in size of a man, and where a tank could not bring its steel or its gun, they could.
And each had to tread with utter caution.

>HAZEL
“I’ve got eight targets to the building to the south. Six to the north. Sixteen to the west. Seventeen to the east.”

>CAIN
“Fucking shit on a stick, everytime we kill one of them we get pelted with fire from a hundred more. How the fuck are we supposed to clear them out. This is power armor not a fucking pillbox.”

They set up away from a window, both propped up their guns on half broken table.

>HAZEL
“On my mark
. . .”

Silent shots pierced the winds, far away targets were turned to gore and pulp, critical shots to the chest one after the other.

Silent alarms rang out on the radio.

And the skyscrapers burst to light and noise, punctured by Anti-Material rounds, Plasma Fire, and RPG’s from a hundred other angles, poking holes in concrete like swiss cheese, making chairs and desks explode into sharpnel. The two figures hit to the ground crawling to relocate as bullets and energy flew above and beneath them.

>CAIN
“I got twelve. You?”

>Hazel
“Eleven. Let’s try again from the other b-“

Her words were cut off as her stomach lurched to her throat, and the whole world seemed to fall from beneath her body as she, Cain, and everything not bolted to the floor were lifted into the air. The sound of a distant explosion from far below was heard vaguely, as their world turned to dust and they heard a sound like a freight train bearing down on them.

Luckily for them, they were thrown clear of the building and onto the ledge of another as the whole structure came toppling town.

>con't

>>1758157

Shit. We should pull them back. Our companions and soldiers should be protected by bots. Not the other way around.

>>1758197
We should also really get some Sentinels, urban warfare is looking like it's gonna be a bitch.

>>1758157
>>1758197
This, get our lads home

Hmm...

Actually. Our bots guns can punch through the cover of the marked men and are suited for long range fire.

Instead of actual sniper rifles, our companions should be using targeters. Transmit coordinates to our Bots. Let them use the fuck off guns to punch through floors and concrete to take them out without giving away their position to the marked men. Since any counter fire will be directed at our bots, not our companions.

>>1758197
Agreed. We can deal with collapsing a few buildings to eliminate most of the enemy snipers and shit while we pull back for a little while. We need to produce a hundred or so of those humanoid robots I mentioned as well as a few more TACTs. Maybe some of the air force too so we can get some air support.


Alternatively we attempt to bomb the ever living shit out of their positions with our artillery and hold the line for now.


I mean, we could also consider the possibility of attacking again from another angle and thus weakening them / breaking their concentration of forces / getting a few more kills and salvage before pulling out.

>>1758217
Not really in the case of most of our robots if not all of them.


I mean the Bastions could but they'd need to advance under intense enemy fire, set up and then open up and might potentially make a building collapse.

>>1758224
Oh yea, I misread. Our bots are mostly optimised for med to short range.

How about using them as spotters for securitron missile bombardment.

>>1758157
General Kreger’s Command Squad was nested inside a small ruined warehouse, surrounded and protected by old cargo containers filled with old world goods too irradiated to be of any value. He stood over a holographic map, projected by the TACT bot on the ground, surveying it from the air. It was quite detailed, showing various structures of the part of the city currently under survey by the spybots, and was being constantly updated.

>Kreger
“What’s the status of our sniper crews.”

>TACT
“Holding sir, but reporting increasing resistance.”

>Kreger
“I see.”

>TACT
“Assessment. Enemy is highly familiar with terrain and likely has hidden and concealed trenches and tunnels for troop movement.”

>Kreger
“Mhm. Urban settings favor a defender and multiply strength of force, coupled with that, there are more marked men in this city than we currently have robots.”

>TACT
“The marked men are spread out among the rubble, or concentrated in the ruins of several key buildings the spy bots have marked out. From these vantage points they are able to fire from long range. “

>Kreger
“Mark them down on the map and target them with the incendiary artillery”

>TACT
“Yes Sir.”

Both of them were interrupted by the sound of a distant explosion, and Kreger stepped out o the building just in time to see the huge plume of dust and smoke shoot into the sky where once the half remains of a skyscraper stood.

>Kreger
“They were expecting us.
There’s going to be a bomb behind every damn stone.”

>con't

>>1758237
Too many tall buildings. Any Securitrons that got into a position they could fire would get chewed apart in seconds.


Honestly, the only solutions are to use artillery which might not work, to bring down some buildings on top of them which will block off entire streets with rubble, to pull out or to continue with the current tactic.

Admittedly we could see about deploying our infantry into the towers to get close quarters with the Marked men and eliminate them with our Companions continuing to distract them and draw their fire.

>>1758261

Then perhaps we need to look into designing and producing a run of Sniper bots for deployment.

>>1758261
We could use the stealth teams to take out the tower garrisons one at a time, but the current armour doesn't have the stealth capabilities of the Chinese stealth suits.

But I doubt the Marked Men have working radios or anything of the sort.

>>1758272
Eh, my preferred method would just be to level a few towers into their positions and bomb the remains with our big guns.

Then we follow that up with harvesting all of the scrap we want, retreating, expanding our military and then attacking again with a better force that has more artillery, some air support and expendable light humanoid robots to rush their positions and move over rubble.


Remember, there is little in this city we want intact so we can just level it and re-refine it into raw materials, something we were going to have to do anyway.

>>1758274
True but I'd expect them to have radios.

>>1758274
We have even fewer infantry compared to our robots and they are not easily replaceable. We should be sending them in our junk robots or robots.

>>1758290

Thing is they are trying to advance on our positions and only our companions are the only thing currently stopping them from sniping our robot forces.

We'd need a long ranged counter to at least skirmish with them while we salvage since they can just snipe from long range.

I assume robots can fight at night, but do the Marked Men need to have regular human sleep? If not than we can have night assaults. Nothing major but to keep them constantly on their toes which will affect their morale and fighting ability. Also let's build up more melee robots to be decoys, meatshields, and assault troops.

>>1758290
>little in this city we want intact
Really? I was under the impression that there was valuable scientific resources buried within the Divide. If this is not the case than I suppose we can really use artillery for strategic bombardment in select areas.

>>1758306
>Thing is they are trying to advance on our positions and only our companions are the only thing currently stopping them from sniping our robot forces.
True which is why I want to maintain that tactics while deploying our artillery against them and trying to bring the sky scrapers to the ground (after having our companions exit) so our robots can open fire on the enemies and bring down the rest.

>We'd need a long ranged counter to at least skirmish with them while we salvage since they can just snipe from long range.
True...I guess we could try and field assemble some sort of turrets or robots or something to eliminate them?

I mean, if the Chinese incendiary artillery burns for a long time we could just leave the wreckage in flames and leave when it starts to die down, having salvaged what we can or have another barrage reignite the barrier.

>>1758311
Those are in the military bases. THe city is just a city. There is probably some nice stuff, but nothing super special.

>>1758311
>I was under the impression that there was valuable scientific resources buried within the Divide.
Ignoring the nukes and anything else in the military bases, probably not. Maybe a few tech firms and some factories but nothing we can't replicate ourselves or don't already have.

>>1758320
>>1758326
I suppose we can start the boomboom next turn then.

>>1758259
>Kreger
"Something doesn't seem right though.

Where are they getting all these high powered guns? Ammunition? Supplies?

This is an army being deployed against us.”

---
A figure in power armor strode through dark tunnels, his eyes peering into the dark as he had downed a cateye pill.

He strutted with a pip in his step, practically whistling inside his helmet. Behind him clanked and creaked an assortment of spider like walker robots, some the size of a dog, others the size of a couch, each bore a plethora of buzzsaws, blades, and cutting tools. Like spiders, they walked on the ground, or on the walls and ceiling, following the man with an Axe as if he were the pied piper of Hamelin.

Up ahead the Courier waved and pointed to the right.

And right he went, following the larger tunnel lit by lamps and here and there spaced out with smaller tunnels, as the little junk axe bots spread out, as they searched for targets to chop.

“Damn it feels good to be Axe man.”

He took one step forward, directly onto a tripwire.

A hail of buckshot opened up on him, followed immediately by an alarm ringing out and the sound of movement. Up ahead he saw figures, saw the bright flash of fire in the dark tunnel and the sensation of automatic rifle bullets hammering away at his power armor. He gripped his axe, eyes wide, and a toothed smile grinning from ear to ear.

“Ha! Finally something to kill!
AXE MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!”

>con’t

>>1758351

Ha. While we talk of diverting supplies to the MLA or Legion, someone has been doing so to our marked men foes.

>>1758351
>Where are they getting all these high powered guns? Ammunition? Supplies?
Prewar bases? Restored factories?

>>1758356
Which raises the question, who has the ability to move through the Divide, a large surplus of weapons / industry and might be able to ally the ex-NCR / Legion soldiers of the Marked men.


Oh fuck it's the NCR again isn't it. This is becoming a running joke at this point.

>>1758366
>tfw they are gathering combat data rn.
We should communicate to our command structure how we should look for any clues of where these Marked Men are recieving their weapons.

>>1758357
The Prewar sales booths were still operational, and they replenshed. May be getting things out of there.

>>1758371
We've seen the NCR's battlerifle before. The new one which is a .50 cal shooting beast.

If these are fairly similar, it may be appropriate to assume they are doing this. That or the Marked men have been raiding their battles with the Legion or their supply lines or something.

>>1758366

If it is them, it'll be great.

Theres no other better casus belli then helping a foe.

In any case, it might even be Elijah since he armed and militarised his ghost people.

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>>1758375
These do not appear to be the NCR's battlerifle. Most are the standard, OW AM rifles.
[PER 7]
However a number of them seem modified or made up of scavenged parts from other guns. They have symbols on them which you do not recognize.

>>1758376
Unlikely, what would Elijah gain from arming them since he'd have no way of knowing we were in conflict with them and they can't raid his enemies.

Plus none of them are BOS and shit.

No, no, it doesn't fit his memo of BOS-supremacy but it does fit guiding from the shadows...maybe.


Still, the NCR seems likely assuming it's not an unknown party.

>>1758382
>However a number of them seem modified or made up of scavenged parts from other guns. They have symbols on them which you do not recognize.
Hm...I think they might actually have started making their own weapons, even if only from salvaged parts.

....... Could it be Ulysses?

>>1758391
He wouldn't work with the Marked men, would he?

WARNING
You feel two explosions. The first one comes from the surface for sure, and a gust of dust travels down the tunnel network as the ground shakes.
You feel another, much smaller explosion coming from the east tunnel. It’s been blocked off!
>You have lost contact with Axe Man

>>1758401
Have a few of our construction robots deployed to clear that tunnel while we continue on our way. Same goes for any future explosions / cave ins.

>>1758401
Axe Man is in his natural habit, Pure Darkness and close range combat. If he dies, He dies like the madman he is.

>>1758406
This. Have them dig as fast as possible, and lets take any remaining axe bots on our side to the other tunnel and try to fight our way towards him.

>>1758409
I want to keep him around still, put him in a custom TACT (all flame throwers and tentacle-axes and shit) in charge of nothing but Axebots.

If he dies, he dies shiny and chrome on the Courier's road.

>>1758406
sure, go for this.

To be quite honest, for a incredibly small force engaging in urban combat against a prepared force, we are doing amazingly.


I just wish we had another dozen artillery guns from the Chinese so we could really lay down the heat.

>>1758429
We should probably make our own artillery based on the design we already have, or update it and make some.

>>1758434
Well based off of our field construction abilities and shit, we could design a long range turret.


Plus we have the artillery / heavy gun bot if we really need something like that.

>>1758435
That's what I'm talking about. Build the artillery TACT platforms. to increase our indirect fire.

>>1758448
I'd argue that the drone tenders might be more effective. The primary benefit of the artillery is that they aren't risking valuable machines to do their combat strikes.

Still, we can produce both when we get the chance and the aircraft tenders will provide some much needed brainpower to process bullshit.


Although we will need a lot more brains.

>>1758448
Agreed.

They don't need to be command platforms with brains, just walking gun emplacements.

That'll give us the long range capabilities we need to flatten bits of the city (which we don't really need anyway).

We can have our constructor bots sift through the rubble afterward.

That has to be our construction priority next turn, while our passive one is just more hzd Securitrons.

>>1758502
Our passive should continue being more construction robots. Their utility is huge since they can be used for rapid construction of reinforcements in the field and we are nearing getting anther Construction action I would imagine.

I dunno, what about producing tons of axe bots to spam in close quarters/ confined spaces? No shortage of those in this city.

Wheels creaked and groaned as steel plowed forward through the big tunnel west. The center of the tunnel held a small rail, fit for a minecart to come through, while up above hung ceiling lamps illuminating the tunnel. Here and again the sides of the tunnel broke off into tall smaller tunnels, to tiny for a robot but small enough to fit a man. Or had much smaller tunnels near the ground, of which only a brave man would get on his hands and knees and crawl through.

The securitrons trudged forward. Prudently, the MAJOR ordered a squad of Sentry-Shield bots ahead of them, and a unit of MKV’s with their heavier armor behind them. One of your 2 LAER squads has also been deployed.

The tunnel was wide enough for several bots to stand side by side, the sentry shield bots forming a mobile wall as they are accustomed too. Here and there a Marked Man caught unawares would attempt to flee.

The sentry bots spun their miniguns and a hailstorm of bullets shattered the air, as the marked man was perforated in his armor before he could so much as scream his lungs were outside his body in little bits.

Just as they were making good progress, an explosion happened at the rear of the column, followed by another at the front, effectively trapping the column of robots. Immediately they huddled in a circle, guns pointed out in every direction.

They heard a vile shriek coming from the other end of the cave, and cameras saw a tall, thin figure standing at the other end. Skulls adorned his fur pelt covered body, and on his head a skull mask. His staff pointed at the robots as he shrieked, before withdrawing back into another tunnel as the robots open fired on his position to blow him the fuck up.

As they focused fire on him, they didn’t notice the ground beneath them churn as claws and hands reached upward, while the small tiny tunnels around them groaned and roared.

>Con’t

>>1758559
I hope our LAER squads have bayonets.

>>1758572
They can handle anything that comes. The only problem is that they'll overheat and run out of weapon charge quicker than their compatriots. Effectively the video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BKefUNZOHA


We can only hope we dig out the tunnel behind them or the enemy runs out of numbers.

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You yourself are walking along the tunnel systems , the human shaped ones at least.

It's very easy to get lost here. There's bends, twists, turns, and doors. Some doors are booby trapped, shotguns or explosives rigged behind them. Easily countered by you, but they seem to have tried their best to stop infiltration.

You search for anything of value. An ammo dump, the source of the Marked Men's slime, a barracks, something to help make the underground safer for your forces.

These tunnels seem to go on and on and on and never end. Is your pip boy acting up? It's become difficult to mark them. You feel hotter than normal, and dizzy, your thoughts become foggy.

You shut your eyes, just for a second, and open your eyes again.

You see a light at the end of the tunnel, and walk toward it. Your eyes adjust a bit to the. . .blue skies.

Blue, with the sun smiling on your face. No red sky, no glowing sand. Fresh, dusty air in your nostrils. And an American flag fluttering on a pole, as you stare around, you see a place you haven't in almost a decade.

Hopeville.

It's curiously empty. Save for one person.

Someone is walking toward you. He wears a leather jacket. His hair is in braids. He has a mask upon his face.

Ulyssess.

>What do?

>>1758630
Go and meet him.

>>1758630
Wait for him at the exit of the tunnel and call for him. But keep our gun in hand just in case he isn't himself or something...

>>1758630
Ulysses? What are you doing here?

>>1758653
1 for this
>>1758660
1 for this

>>1758660
>>1758662
I'm supporting a combination of this.

I think people are basically advocating for the same thing. Approach him, but keep our hands holster level.

Rolled 76 (1d100)

Roll me 1d100!

Rolled 64 (1d100)

>>1758726
We've been Will Smithed, From I am Legend.

>>1758726
ARRRGH!
What's with your rolls today OP?!

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>>1758726
>>1758737
Ulysses walks up to you, as you keep your Big Iron in hand, ready in case he tries something.

All he does is walk up to you, and extend his hand. You instinctively take it, and find he has given you something.

A package.

"From one courier to another"

You open it up, inside, its a detonator with the Enclave's signal on it.

You look up to see Ulyssess, now surrounded by other people. The denizens of Hopeville.

Some of them you've seen many times before. On courier errands, delivering supplies, food and shelter. They wear the flag and emblems of America, on their clothes, in their hats, all stare at you.

Ulysses speaks.

"Who are you, who do not know your history?"

There's a bright flash. Brighter than the sun. Brighter than anything you've ever seen.

You feel the heat vaporizing your body into ash.

>con't

Rolled 82 (1d100)

>>1758726

We are being influenced by that evil psychic force again.

>>1758783
No. This is something different.


Always respect the dead and listen to them when they speak. It's the only thing I've learned from the Metro series and it applies here pretty damn well.

>>1758787
>fighting murrikans wielding 2A

>>1758787
"Here lies the Courier, killed by the Unabomber."

>>1758780
Burning. You are burning and on fire, as if several men had unleashed flamers on your body.

You think fast and eject your power armor, flopping to the ground and rolling around in it. You see your skin reddened and peeled, steaming from head to toe, even your eyes.

Stimpaks inject into your body, and your ruined skin begins to heal. That cancerous mutation you acquired ages ago comes to action, the one that sped up your recovery when acid was poured on your flesh.

The inside of your suit is smoking, but otherwise you are in an empty room again.

. . .

What the FUCK was that.

---

You now find yourself in a different chamber entirely than you remember. Your pip boy is on the fritz again, and isn't able to tell where you are or how you got here.

>You
[Hello. Hello, anyone there?]

>Kreger
"Yes, what is it?"

>You
[I seem to be lost somewhere]

>Kreger
"Understood. What's going on down there, the ZAX is reporting its a mess.

Things aren't going so well on the surface either."

----

New Battle Turn incoming.

>>1758800
>The inside of your suit is smoking, but otherwise you are in an empty room again.
>"Understood. What's going on down there, the ZAX is reporting its a mess.
It's over for now. That anomaly or whatever it was, trapped spirits maybe, has passed. Now we need to get back to dealing with the real shit.

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Here is the status report:
-Much of your units have moved forward into the city following the breech in the tall scrap wall. Within the raised outpost is your artillery unit, and the Bawang Platoon plus the Giant Robo Scorpion and a single MKV Hazard Squad in reserve
-Your snipers held off the enemy snipers long enough for your robotic forces to main forces to dig in. Rubble has been cleared by the Omni-Constructor and Loaders to create some cover and a few trenches for the robots as the breech is strengthened
-The enemy has detonated a large explosive trap likely from the basement of a tall building ideal for sniping positions, which your own snipers fell into
-It is reported by the spy drones that this has allowed even more Marked men Marksmen to move into position and take up defenses around your breech-head
-The toppled building has blocked several streets and created much debris hills and piles
-1 Sentry Shield Juggernaut Squad, 1 LAER squad, 1 MKV Hazard Squad, and about 11 Securitron MKV squads are curretly engaged by tunellers who are swarming them from literally all sides underground, attacking from below, from the sides, and dropping in from above. Units are under heavy fire but holding for now
-Axe Man and his Junk Axers are not in contact
-YOU are lost somewhere and you don't know where

It has been almost a week since the start of the battle turn.

>What do?

>>1758880
-You have also uncovered a large tunnel network running from east to west, with smaller tunnels branching off in many directions and difficult to map by a single person

Gonna pass out for the night, more turns tomorrow as the battle for the Divide continues!

>>1758811
Fucking mindfuck spiritmen. Next time we see the dude with the staff shoot his arms and legs off and capture him for interrogation. Also, try to pull back and regroup with the rest of the forces. Also recover our lost forces.

>>1758880
Construction / salvage robots are to construct as many automated artillery turrets as possible from scrap while others are to continue attempting to excavate the tunnels to the trapped robots and to Axe man. Under the supervision and protection of any non-Hazard robots we have to spare.

All of our infantry and robots of the Hazard variety should take up positions in the trenches and await the enemies arrival while our companions should pull back and re-position to support this new battle line rather than acting as skirmishers.

The artillery unit is to begin firing on known routes the enemies would take, concentrations we previously encountered as well as any areas we know none of our companions are present in using the data from the spy drones. We'll create a wall of flame, delay their attack a little longer and maybe even take some of them down.


All of this of course is based on MAJOR and Moreno not objecting or having a preference.

>>1758880
Can we do any R&D or is this just battle orders?

>>1758923
It's a battle turn. Too short for more or less any civil actions.

>>1758880
Should we move the Big Launch artillery site over to here?

Where were we when we lost contact? Relative to the map?

>-Axe Man and his Junk Axers are not in contact
>-YOU are lost somewhere and you don't know where
We should try recovering the Courier and Axe Man somehow.

>>1758932
Right.

>>1758883
Of the Marked Men weapons we've captured, do any of them have any sophisticated targetters? Or just normal scopes and iron sights?

Because if it is, we might as well just make a dirty fire break. Spread black smoke everywhere. Our bots and troops will not be inconvinienced due to sensors but they'll be unable to pierce the smoke and their sniper fire will be hampered.

>>1758934
And recovering our trapped robots...

We need to bring in our tunnelling robots from back at BigMT.

We also need to develop a second beachhead - other positions around the city should be undermanned as their focusing on our forces here.

Pushing in while they're overstretched would be good.

>>1758939
This. Our biggest concern should be manpower. To prevent imminent attacks on our positions I say we bombard them. Get our bastions and Chinese artillery crews start pounding areas of the highest density of MM. Also we need a more effective way of counteracting the tunnelers as well as rescuing our trapped troopsl

>>1758938
>ZAX
"Analyzing . . ."

The weapons are 'weird' according to CEO and 'Augged' to RIG'D.

They all have normal scopes and iron sights, but there's very little uniformity to them. Some havy jury rigged scopes from other weapons. Infrared sights, laser sights, optics taken from other rifles, little computer calculators from more advanced weapons. almost as if each man had modified his rifle in his own way.

it betrays either an ability to adapt, or each man treating his rifle as uniquely his

>>1758787
Yes it is

It's the evil force spread all over that has been foreshadowed and warned about for a long time. Unity, Cain, Forecaster, Hubologists, all of them mentioned it.
I'm sure it is what driving the marked men.

>>1758949
Will the Chinese provide us with more firepower if we give them resources?

>>1759048
They've already said they would. They need the resources to feed into their warfac.

Might be a good idea to look into building robo crews to pilot their warmachines.

>>1759049
then lets do it. Lets give them more resources.

We should also spend a construction action to build more forces.

>>1759071
That would take construction actions though and were currently operating on a tactical scale. We can't just build more tanks right now.

>>1759165
Ah, yes. But I'm aware of that. I doubt we will clear it out in the next turn. This is becoming a full fledged war which will take many months.
It's good that with each step we are securing a lot of resources, so we can build more.

I actually didn't realize that the Divide was a massive city with huge skyscrapers and stuff.

What is the real life counterpart if there is any?

Maybe we should approach this as a RTS game?

Build a powerplant and a robot production facility near our fortifications with the resources we gain from the Divide.

Gather resources with our salvage bots.
Build bigger army.
Secure more terrain.
Build more salvage bots.
Gather even more resources with bigger salvage fleet.
Build even more troops.
Build additional production and energy facilities as needed.


We are in here for a long haul boys.

Maybe we should build a road to the divide.

>>1759207
But we are, on a larger scale. Build robots at base, send them to the front

>>1759210
Though a road might be useful.or train tracks.

>>1759216
I say to build roads. We have hexcrete aplenty and railroad is expensive. Wheeled vehicles are more versatile and cheaper. And I'm not sure that trains are more efficient. We could have massive road trains like they do in Australia and/or build more trucks as we need.

>>1759224
Actual railways are more cost-effective than cars, even long ones. Thats why a train has up to hundreds of wagons. And seeing as we are about to literally scrap a city the railway is a valid choice. Way back when there was a twin-rail project that was discussed for the Divide. Supposedly worth it.

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>>1759231
Hmm. Okay.

But we should still build a road alongside as an added measure.

I guess we could continue the tracks and the road into Utah as we expand further.

>>1759236
I dont think the road gives any additional benefits once the railway is up. We have no people going around in cars. Only robots on wheels and if we want to transport them long distances we stick em in the rail cart. I agree with roads to destinations without significant resources but for anything as big as this or a main route to Utah the railway is essential. The only problem being vulnerability to sabotage. Think mines under the tracks.

>>1759243
>The only problem being vulnerability to sabotage. Think mines under the tracks.

That's what I mean and not just sabotage. If a roadway breaks somehow then the traffic stops till it is repaired which can take several days but if something happens to the road, that section can be driven around.

Hopefully, once we start expanding and getting bigger population, people will start driving around.

>>1759245
Well with only one railway in the middle of the death plain of sun and radiation I think a couple of spybots should be enough to make sure nobody does anything dirty. This could further be prevented by making the foundation out of hexcrete (would also allow for bigger railcarts) so the possibility of mines is negated. And we can always have a spybot check the tracks ahead of our carts.

>>1759250
>This could further be prevented by making the foundation out of hexcrete (would also allow for bigger railcarts)

You know, I hadn't thought about that.
Since we are making railroads from scratch, we should also redesign the rails themselves and the width of the road so that standard freightcars can carry several time more than we have now.

I couldn't reliably find information on the highest weight that the modern standard railcars can carry but it looks like somewhere in the line of 110 metric tons.

>>1759271
Well it should be based on foundation and railway toughness. So hexcrete and beefy rails makes a strong rail system. Make the carts big as well and there you go. Only question is cost efficiency. When the Divide is empty can we still justify a huge railway.

>>1759278
Well, if we plan on expanding towards Utah or taking over New Vegas, then yeah, we can continue the rail-line.

In worst case, we can always scrap it. The metal wont be lost.

>>1759271
I think we should keep the railway lines the same width as the old world line, so we can jsut hook them up to existing infrastructure rather than having to put down all new lines every where we go.

>>1759292
The old ones have lost their use already. Questionable structural integrity, not to mention broken stretches. Easier to scrap than to reuse. Especially since the prewar destinations may not be relevant anymore.

What do you think about maglev solutions? Since it is going to be a straight stretch anyway why not use a highspeed variant. They can go in excess of 300 km/h or near 200 miles. That is considerable if we decide we need the speed.

>>1759308
I think we need to get bigger before maglev becomes viable. Right now were a couple dozen miles across. The savings aren't worth it. Maybe if we had to go all the way to the far corner of Utah, it might be more viable.

>>1759184
Well, they aren't of the scale of New York or Los Angeles but yes it was indeed a sizeable city.

[Int 6]
Most of the Marked Men here are likely a combination of the original settlers of Hopeville, plus the armies NCR and the Legion, which were swallowed whole.

When Vegas was a dark and the families still tribal, Hopeville was a thriving community that you and other couriers helped feed with trade and goods. If house never awoke or Legion took Hoover Dam first, the Mojave might well have been yet another Legion fief and this town the site of their great battle.

Thus the Marked Men's numbers are two armies and a whole community, swallowed by a combined nuclear and weather nightmare, bound together by endless agony and anger.

---

Here right now, just checking up if consensus was reached.

>>1759427
OP can you write what happens next

>>1759472
Can you elaborate? It should be your guys next battle turn, all I need is consensus. Even if its something as simply as "hold the line" but detailed plans can be very effective.

>>1759490
OP I know if we wait for three people to agree on something we're be waiting hours.

Clear Axe man tunnel. So we can meet up with him with some robots.

As a courier we just find a way out.

As for the battle go do what our general want to do.

>>1759490
Would it be possible to capture a Marked Man, debrain it, and ask the brain for information?

>>1759493
Why the hell should we suddenly change it to fit your way of going?

>>1759498
Not saying that. Just posting a plan while I wait hours until it's voted on

>>1759494
Yes actually.

>You
(Hey thats a good idea!)

Your followers might not like that, but you could probably do it in secret too.

>>1759505
Do it.

For the followers. Tell them we're saving people's lives.

>>1759505
Why wouldn't they like it?

>>1759493
I mean, I could impose a time limit based on what seems to be the most votedbut it seems more reasonable to allow people to chip in cause not all of my players are on the same time zone and even I have different times depending on how busy or not I am, though usually I always try to update at least once a day at night but I prefer to do more if I can.

First to three just gives me the assurance this is what most of my players want, and its in your best interest to think of good and well thought plans so I try not to rush you either.

>>1759505
Do it in secret

>>1759510
Probably because its like torture.

Except its brain torture.

Also the involuntary vivisection thing.

>>1759493
Do this. Seems legit.

>>1759514
We're relieving them of their suffering.

>>1759516
I mean, the brain won't just tell us everything we need to know, especially if its been driven to madness.

>>1759516
Don't use bullshit excuses, that will piss them off.

Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>1759509
>>1759513
>>1759515
Roll me a 1d100!

>>1759514
Torture? Since when was debraining described as torture?

Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>1759519

Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>1759519

>>1759525
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
WHYYY

Rolled 73 (1d100)

>>1759519

Rolled 76 (1d100)

>>1759519

>>1759523
The process itself isn't painful, but you're going to have to twist some screws to get all the info you want.

>Brain
"The Brain and the Person are one and the same, or rather, the Brain is but a component of the person as a whole, just like /you/ and /me/ form the Courier.

Brains can't really go against the person anymore than you can go against yourself. Even when one commits suicide it is because they chose to do so.

So if the person refuses to divulge information, you'll find the Brain does as well."

>>1759536
Time to get to work with a pair of gloves

>>1759536
Then lets not. Torture is useless at getting reliable information anyways.

They'll just tell us what they think we want to hear.

>>1759536
Then I don't want to do any torture, just question the brain, maybe it will divulge info. If not, then give it up

>>1759541
>>1759543
Ah, alrighty then. The motion is blocked.

Without more brutal methods, you'd need to figure out a way to tap directly into neural synapses to gain information but that would take some neuro research.

>>1759543
supporting, make sure to threaten it with mind wipe and use for a robo brain or whatever else we need brains for

>>1759541
>>1759543
I agree.

>>1759493
I agree with this, let's just get things going.
Also bring tunneler bots to get AXE MAN out.
And stop bringing humans to the front. Our companions are here to help not to do the grunt work.