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Eight years ago, the warrior race known as the Saiyans were annexed into Emperor Freeza's army. Since that day, the Saiyans have acted as the emperor's loyal soldiers, leading the charge onto hundreds of worlds and facing down all who oppose Lord Freeza's rule. As mighty conquerors, crushing all who have stood against them, the Saiyans have made quite a reputation for themselves as Freeza's most powerful and loyal subjects.

The tales of the Super Saiyans have especially grown larger than life. Golden-haired warriors, clad in equally glorious golden auras and leading charges against impossible odds: fighting legendary assassins, powerful demons, and entire armies by themselves, even facing Lord Freeza himself and surviving.

Welcome to Saiyan Conqueror Quest, currently Age 739. You the players control Karn, a Saiyan Berserker with a base powerlevel of 414,854, a general in Lord Freeza’s army, mate to Meloka, father to Chaya and Chilli and an inspiration to the Saiyans and PTO alike. Your current teammates are:
Meloka- Blaster, 278,714
Chaya- Infant, 9,954
King Vegeta- Blaster, 197,245
Nappa- Juggernaut, 199,315
Ubo- Brawler, 8,217,459
Raven- Witch, 185
Turles- Tactician, 184,993
Broly- Infant, 31,925


Character Sheet: https://pastebin.com/iPAJeGJn

Archive link: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Saiyan+Conqueror+Quest

Quest rules:
>20 minute vote, 3 votes minimum
>Only first 3 correctly rolled die count, best of the 3 wins
>Crits are 100, unless otherwise stated
>A 99 may net you an extra bonus on a roll
>Crit fails will count ONLY if a 1 is rolled and no roll passes DC, OR two 1s are rolled within the 3 rolls
>Two 1s will OVERRIDE a 100, resulting in crit failure
>I hold final say on any/all decisions, I can and will use this power as-necessary.
>Write-ins are both allowed and encouraged, but can be shut down if too meta or too out-of-established-chatacter
>DO NOT DELETE YOUR POSTS! If you want to change your vote, post your new vote linking to the vote you’re changing. This simplifies things on my end and helps prevent vote miscounts
>I can change any of the above rules at any time for any or no reason
>Have fun

Quest will usually start every Saturday at 11am EST, and run throughout the entire weekend. Also, for updates or schedule changes follow me on twitter @GrandDragonQM

Current Arc: What You’ve Sown

Let's rock!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9qYNd3Ky9Os
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>>2394968
Last time on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:

After waking up and checking on Chilli, you met with and showed Freeza your Berserk power. After an intense fight Freeza again showed his strength, causing you to explode with a single good punch. Waking up two weeks later in the Healing Pod, you find that your crew and friends have already started the trip to Kvir’s moon for yhe showdown with Nefarious. Once out of the pod you have a heart to heart with Meloka, her finally showing you her worries about you and how you always push yourself to the limit. With that in the open you began training Broly to control hos power as you work on mastering the Ascended transformation.

Once you arrive on the moon you meet Gine, Raditz and Kakarot, Gine telling you what happened to Bardock. You order them onto your ship for their safety, you Ubo Turles and Nappa destroying a swarm of Nefarious’ machines. Then you think you find Bardock, only for it to be a monstrous imposter. You’d blasted it through the eye with a Death Beam, only to watch the hole reseal itself before your eyes. As we rejoin Karn, you, Nappa, Ubo, and Turles all hold your fighting stances around the machine in a semicircle, it simply standing there after its proclamation of “Kill all Saiyans!”

The wind whistles through the air, your hair blowing in the breeze. Looking close, you notice its “hair” doesn’t move in the wind either, remaining rigidly still.

“Ubo no like this.” the giant says, his red aura flared around him.
“This won’t be easy.” Turles says, the golden Super Saiyan aura enveloping him. “Pinpoint attacks don’t seem to work, we’ll have to use a bit more force.”
“What happened to Bardock?” Nappa shouts at it. You remain silent, you and the machine’s eyes locked, silently staring each other down, lightning crackling around your golden Ascended aura.
”Scan completed.” it says, breaking the silence. “Weakest target identified. Eliminating.”

“Weakest target?” you think to yourself, watching it extremely close as you think. “Who does it mea- Shit! Nappa!!”

What do you do?
>”Nappa get back!!”
>”Everyone get back!! I’ll handle this thing alone!”
>Attack first, rush and attack
>Dash to Nappa, shove him out of the way
>Energy Wave
>Energy Bomb
>Energy Blade and rush
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>2394972
>>Attack first, rush and attack
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>>2394972
>Dash to Nappa, shove him out of the way
>Energy Wave
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>>2394972
>”Nappa get back!!”
>Dash up and use the X cross to quadrisect the thing
>telepathically tell everyone to blast at the remains to keep them down
>blow the remains away with a final flash
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>>2394994
This
>>2394972
>>2394993
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>>2394972
>”Nappa get back!!”
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>>2394972
>Energy Blade and rush
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>>2394972
Woo, first time I caught one of these.
>Energy Blade and rush
Shoving Nappa out of the way is just asking to get hit in his place. Besides, he's a tough bastard, he can handle it.
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>>2395034
>>2395001
>liquid metal terminator
>hurr durr let's energy blade it

I'm going to go to bed now, and something stupid will have happened by the time i wake up.
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>>2394988
>>2394994
>>2394996
>>2394997
>>2395001
>>2395034
Tie between write in and Energy Blade and rush. Reopening the vote for another 10 minutes, I’ll roll for tiebreaker after that if its still tied.
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>>2394972
>>”Nappa get back!!”
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>>2395037
>>2395037
>hurr durr we totally know how terminator physiology works, because we're metagaming. Sticking with my guns on this one, intercepting it before it can get to Nappa is better then trying to get him out of the way and getting whacked ourselves.
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Rolled 3 (1d3)

>>2395043
>>2395038
With the last vote we have a 3-way tie, so I’m rolling tiebreaker.

>1 Write in
>2 Energy Blade and rush
>3 “Nappa get back!”

No matter which wins, roll me a d100.
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Rolled 60 (1d100)

>>2395065
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>>2395058
Gine said they were made of liquid metal, fagtard.
>>2378424

>>2395065
Oh good, and now we're doing literally the worst possible thing and taking essentially no action whatsoever because of this guy. >>2395043

I knew something retarded would happen, but that was fast.
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Rolled 41 (1d100)

>>2395065
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Rolled 43 (1d100)

>>2395065
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>>2395071
Fair enough, I didn't see that post. The rudeness is unnecessary however. If you had just stated your reasoning earlier then I would not have felt the need to respond in a similarly rude manner.
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>>2395076
>>2395072
>>2395068
60/100. That could have gone much worse, writing.
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>>2395079
You'll get what's coming to you for being stupid.
It's not worth trying anymore, it just ends up like this.
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>>2395087
If you had presented a reasonable argument earlier however, I might have sided with you before the vote went through. You can hardly logically get that angry at someone for forgetting about one detail of a quest on a board of numerous quests.
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>>2395095
I did present a reasonable argument, that being that an energy blade will do jack shit to a liquid metal terminator.
It's not my fault you're a retard who forgot something which literally happened at the end of the last thread.

Not ten threads ago, not twenty. The last thread. Right at the end.
You dumb fuck.
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>>2395107
I wasn't even in attendance at the last thread. I read through the quest in the archives a week ago, and only have the opportunity to briefly skim through last quest before other things caught my attention. And again, I wasn't aware that KARN was aware of how terminator physiology works, generally speaking. Besides, even if your argument was logical, the way you presented it certainly wasn't. I would have been much more inclined to side with you if you hadn't presented your argument in a manner that was unnecessarily hostile.
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>>2395115
Not even in the last thread but you assume i'm metagaming because YOU don't know what the fuck you're talking about, go fuck yourself.
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>>2395116
Again with the unnecessarily vulgar vocabulary. We wouldn't need to be arguing about this to begin with, if you'd done away with that in the first place.
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>>2395122
And all you can focus on is me calling you a dumb cunt because you know you fucked up and you can't defend it.
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>>2395122
Your incapability to read is your own fault.
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>>2395124
? When did I ever say I was defending my argument? I outright stated that your logic had merit, and that I would have sided with it, had you not wrapped it in an insult. I'm arguing that immediately becoming hostile to someone for having a view that conflicts with yours on a matter, while unaware of their current knowledge with regards to the quest, when you could simply present the logic behind your argument, is no way to expediently argue your point.
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>>2395131
>I outright stated that your logic had merit, and that I would have sided with it, had you not wrapped it in an insult.
How hypocritical of you, considering this post of yours >>2395058
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>>2395136
Again, unnecessarily hostile anon
>Fair enough, I didn't see that post.
I would have concurred had he simply stated that at some point earlier in the quest we were introduced to terminator physiology. I had something of a knee jerk reaction, however, because he unnecessarily lambasted me and another anon on the matter, instead of simply presenting the logic behind his opinion on the matter.
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>>2394972
“Nappa get back!!” you shout, terrified for your friend as the imposter raises its arm just as you did for your Death Beam. He doesn’t hesitate, leaping back from the metal creature as Ubo rushes in. Just in time, as it turns out. The being’s finger extends, faster than any of you could react, similar to your Death Beam. If Nappa hadn’t leapt back, it would have probably killed him. Instead of taking him through the heart, it caught him along the ribs, slicing easily through his armor and throwing up a spray of his blood.

“DAMMIT!!” Nappa shouts, the force of the attack sending him spinning then hitting the ground in a tumble. Ubo, meawhile, rushes the being. Raising his arm, he shouts and brings his massive fist down, the thing’s head simply changing to face Ubo, it lifting its other arm and catching Ubo’s punch. The giant looks stunned, The creature’s liquid body starting to envelop your friend.

“Get off him!” you shout, rushing from the other side. Another face appears on the back of its head, it swinging its enlongated finger blade at you. Transitioning into the Su Ma technique you flip and spin over the blade, you barely avoiding it. It effortlessly swings the blade back and forth, keeping you at bay.

Turles then takes advantage of the opening, firing his odd ring blast at the creature. It is unable to dodge, his ring blast cutting through both its arms and legs. It looks surprised, falling to the ground. The arm attached to Ubo’s remains on him, still crawling further up his arm while the rest fall to the ground, seeming to melt.

What do you do?
>Blast the puddles, you don’t trust it
>Check up on Nappa, make sure he’s okay
>Help Ubo, its nearly up to his elbow already
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>2395149
>unnecessarily hostile
Gonna have to point out was Exactly I was hostile you delicate little flower you.
>I would have concurred had he simply stated that at some point earlier in the quest we were introduced to terminator physiology.
Again, your incapability to read is your own fault.
>he unnecessarily lambasted me and another anon on the matter, instead of simply presenting the logic behind his opinion on the matter.
he pointed out his reasons, AFTER you went HURR HURR muh metagame. if you cant see the facts past the insults you don't belong on this site.
>>2395152
>Help Ubo, its nearly up to his elbow already
Could we, theoretically, blast the gunk out of Ubo? he's strong enough to withstand it
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>>2395152
>Help Ubo, it's nearly up to his elbow already
>Ask Meloka or someone else to sense for Gine's ki
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>>2395174
We know they are real, we sensed three ki signatures when we landed.
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>>2395152
>Help Ubo, its nearly up to his elbow already
>Tell ubo to use a super explosive wave purely from his arm, or from his whole body if he can't
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>>2395152
>>Blast the puddles, you don’t trust it

it aint dead till youv vaporized the corpse. standered proceeder when dealing with any kind of regenrator
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>>2395176
you're right, my apologies.
>>2395177
supporting the explosive wave plan
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>>2395152
>>Help Ubo, its nearly up to his elbow already
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>>2395169
>Gonna have to point out was Exactly I was hostile you delicate little flower you.
The grammar here is confusing, so I'm going it's somewhere along the lines of "Something something you're a precious snowflake."
>Again, your incapability to read is your own fault.
Again, I don't believe that I was arguing whether my original point on whether he was metagaming was correct or not, or whether we were aware of terminator physiology, we've moved past that.
> if you cant see the facts past the insults you don't belong on this site.
I don't believe that's the point. The point is that if they hadn't been hostile, we wouldn't be having this argument. If he can simply present his point, without the hostility, then people are more likely to listen to the actual logic behind the argument. Just because toxicity is common doesn't mean that it's somehow a good thing, and that you're unwelcome on the site because you challenge that norm.

I do agree with you on assisting Ubo however, he should be resilient enough to take a ki blast to the arm to remove the silvery gunk. We should also send someone back to the ship, just in case.
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>>2395176
This is also true, so sending someone back to the ship will probably be unnecessary.
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>>2395152
>Help Ubo, its nearly up to his elbow already
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>>2395152
>>Help Ubo, its nearly up to his elbow already
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Alright, that’s enough.
>>2395201
>>2395182
>>2395179
>>2395177
>>2395174
>>2395169
>>2395215
>>2395230
>>2395232
Help Ubo wins, roll me a d100.
DC 70
Roll isn’t for helping him
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>>2395215
>>2395169
Can you two please stop? Some of us are trying to enjoy the session. Just call it even and bury the hatchet.
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Rolled 86 (1d100)

>>2395233
YEEART
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>>2395215
>that's not the point, i wasn't arguing that!
>muh toxicity!
>just reform your speech around me, it's not that hard!


You didn't know what the fuck you were talking about because you weren't even in the thread. That's your fault.
I told you that you were making a stupid choice and you didn't understand because you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about. That's your fault.
Instead of just accepting that you fucked up, you latch onto my language because you have nothing else. That's your problem.

Kill yourself. Drink bleach, cocksucker. Your a fucking tumblrite and you need to end your life.
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Rolled 68 (1d100)

>>2395233
Pls no crit fail
>>2395234
good enough for me
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Rolled 18 (1d100)

>>2395233
Nat 1
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>>2395234
Fine, sorry.
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>>2395234
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
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>>2395237
>>2395241
>>2395245
86/100, well done, writing.
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>>2395240
Okay, I'm too drunk to understand, or care, why you are still yapping at each other, can vboth of you relocate to the previous thread or stop being annoing little kids and chill out?
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>>2395152
You look over to Turles, you both nodding to each other then moving. Turles rushes to check up on Nappa, while you rush over to help Ubo.

“Get! Off! Ubo!” Ubo shouts, punching the grey metal climbing up his arm. His strikes don’t affect in in the slightest, and now his arm is covered from fist to almost elbow.

“Ubo, listen to me!” you shout, getting the giant’s attention. “Just like the crystals, remember? Raaaaa!”

And with that you fire off a weak Explosive Wave, Ubo’s eyes widening as he remembers. He then clenches his fists and roars.

“RRRAAAAAAAAA!!!”

With that shout Ubo fires off a massive Explosive Wave, you bringing up your barrier since you’re so close and watching closely. Sure enough, the metallic liquid couldn’t hold on, getting blasted off of Ubo’s arm. You can’t tell where it went, being blasted to pieces too small to see. Ubo then grabs his now-freed arm with the other, you seeing dozens of small bleeding holes covering his hand and arm. That’s what it was doing to him? You walk back up to him to say something, Ubo looking up at you then freezing. Your instincts sound the alarm, you freezing as well then turning slowly.

https://youtube.com/watch?t=38s&v=F9ZDwUXi8h4

You watch, paralyzed in shock as you watch the liquid metal on the ground coming back together, a shape rising up and out of it as the puddle shrinks. You feel your stomach drop as it reforms into Bardock’s shape, color slowly returning to it.

“Wha... What the hell ARE you?!” you shout, doing your best to avoid taking an unconscious step back. It turn to you, focus exclusively on you now.

”Destroy all Saiyans.” it says, taking a step towards you. This time you do take a step back, worriedly watching the creature. Again it lifts a hand, you and Ubo leaping aside in seperate directions. It looks slowly between the both of you, it lowering its hand and simply standing there, waiting.

What do you do now?
>Rush and attack
>Rush and Energy Fists
>Rush and point-blank Energy Bomb
>Defend, wait and see what it will do
>Defend, telepathically call for backup
>Energy Mine and evade
>Dual Energy Wave
>Energy Javelin
>Hellzone Grenade
>Final Flash
>Other(write in)
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>>2395367
>tell everyone to blast it while you rush in
>rush it and use the x-cross to quadrisect it
>blast it with a point blank final flash before it can reform

Also, i'm worried about ubo. the metal may have gotten into his bloodstream and could be headed for his heart of brain if he didn't get it all out.
We'd better make this quick.
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>>2395367
>“Wha... What the hell ARE you?!”
Nanomachines, it's always the goddanm Nanomachines.
>Final Flash
Whatever it is just shrugged of Ubo's Energy with apparently minimal loss of mass, i say we focus on it before we're turned into Saiyan kebab.
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>>2395367
>>Rush and point-blank Energy Bomb
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>>2395367
>final flash
Don’t want any surprises
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>>2395367
>Rush and point-blank Energy Bomb
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>>2395401
>>2395412
>>2395418
>>2395423
>>2395443
Rush and point-blank Energy Bomb wins, roll me a d100.

DC 65
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>>2395423

final flash... then enrgy bomb to be sure
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Rolled 93 (1d100)

>>2395453
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>>2395367
>Final Flash
Gonna want to thoroughly incinerate this thing.
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Rolled 60 (1d100)

>>2395453
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Rolled 26 (1d100)

>>2395453
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>>2395461
Oh well, that works to.
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>>2395461
Fuck yeah shit English dude, blow them up real good.
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>>2395461
>>2395466
>>2395467
93/100, success! Writing
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>>2395367
You, Ubo, and the metal thing silently stare each other down, you weighing your options. Your Death Beam doesn’t work, and the same probably goes for your blade and slash attacks. Ubo’s Explosive Wave seemed to do the trick, at least against that small bit. It seems raw explosive power is the way to beat this thing, and you’ve got plenty of that.

“Ubo, I got a plan.” you think to your giant friend, seeing Turles and Nappa backing off a bit, staying clear for now. “When I say now, I need you to shout as loud as you can and jump, ok?”
“Ubo got it.” he replies, crouching a bit lower. This catches the being’s attention, it focusing on Ubo.

“Now!” you think, Ubo’s red aura flaring around him and cracking the ground beneath him then leaping.Just as you’d hoped, its focus is solely on Ubo. It crouches to leap as well, but you’re faster. You dash straight at it, ki gathering in your open palm. It leaps up at Ubo, noticing you at the last second. Its eyes widen slightly in surprise, you smirking in satisfaction.

“HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!” you shout, slamming the blast straight into the metal being’s center, pushing it back slightly. It has just enough time to look down, before your attack explodes. The blast consumes the being’s entire upper body, blasting its legs, arms, and liquified metal everywhere.

“Karn kill it?” Ubo asks, landing down beside you.
“I don’t think so.” you say, watching its limbs seeming to melt, unable to hold its shape perhaps? All the solid pieces return to a liquid state, and start moving towards each other. Dammit, what will you have to do to put this thing down?

Well?
>Energy Bomb it again
>Dual Energy Bomb
>Dual Energy Wave
>Energy Javelin
>Step into the metal puddle then Explosive Wave
>Scattershot
>Other(write in)
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>>2395644
>Duel Energy Bomb each piece
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>>2395644
>>Scattershot
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>>2395644
>>Duel Energy Bomb each piece
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>>2395644

>hellzone grenade
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>>2395644
>>Other(write in)
Final Dragon Flash!
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>>2395655
>>2395680
>>2395694
>>2395713
>>2395736
Dual Energy Bomb each puddle wins, roll me a d100
DC 70
Crit 95+
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Rolled 74 (1d100)

>>2395750
EXPLOSION.
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Rolled 51 (1d100)

>>2395750
>2395750
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Rolled 8 (1d100)

>>2395750
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Rolled 53 (1d100)

>>2395750
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Rolled 79 (1d100)

>>2395750
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>>2395752
>>2395753
>>2395756
74/100. Success, writing.
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Sorry for the delay, lost my post and have to retype it.
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>Current Karn vs Android Saga Tofoo*
Who wins?

*They fight in a place with no rocks and luck is equalized
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>>2396000
Saiyans generally always outfight humans, especially if their both wild cards.

Now if it was Kaguya...Karn would probably not stand a chance.
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>>2396000
Tofoo could put up a decent fight, but if Karn goes berserk it's all over for Tofoo.
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>>2396000
Depends, are Bulma/Meloka watching?
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>>2396064
No.

>>2396058
>>2396028
What about Tofoo with God Ki then?
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>>2396028
If it were Kaguya I would have gone with Namek Saga.

Super Human was bullshit.
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>>2395644
You quickly gather ki into your palms, forming your Dual Energy Bombs. You are not gonna let this thing pull itself back together again! With a shout you toss the twin attacks, obliterating the largest puddle in a flash. Ubo watches you, then starts following your lead. He holds out a hand towards another puddle, firing a wave of ki from his palm and erasing another one. Your combined efforts make quick work of the abomination, you had thought there were a lot more of the puddles, but you figure Ubo must have gotten them.

“Well that was, interesting.” Turles says, him and Nappa walking back over to you. “Wonder if he has any more of them?”
“I hope not.” Nappa says, you understanding the sentiment. “But we still have a problem. We still don’t know where Nefarious’ lab is.”
“And I already said that its simple.” Turles says. “We just blast our way inside this rock until we find it.”
“Out of the question!” Nappa shouts. “If we detonate the core, we doom Bardock.”
“Then what do we do?” Turles says, clearly frustrated.

Well?
>Get all the fighters (not the crew or kids) off your ship, everyone comb the surface for the entrance
>Get everyone off your ship, have everyone look around
>The four of you search from the air for more of Nefarious’ forces, look for an entrance that way.
>Go and search through the ruined fortress to the north, perhaps the entrance is there
>Controlled blasts, start digging your way inside the surface
>Other(write in)
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>>2396093
>Get all the fighters (not the crew or kids) off your ship, everyone comb the surface for the entrance
This might take a while otherwise.
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>>2396093
>>Get all the fighters (not the crew or kids) off your ship, everyone comb the surface for the entrance
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>>2396093
>Other(write in)
Ki sense. If Bardock's ki is being blocked, go for the biggest one we can find.
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>>2396093
>Get all the fighters (not the crew or kids) off your ship, everyone comb the surface for the entrance
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>>2396093
>Get all the fighters (not the crew or kids) off your ship, everyone comb the surface for the entrance
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>>2396093
Damn, sounds like some of it slipped away. We'll have to watch for that.
>Get all the fighters (not the crew or kids) off your ship, everyone comb the surface for the entrance
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>>2396132
Actually, maybe leave a single fighter on the ship, just in case, having them get taken hostage or abducted would be a pain in the ass.
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>>2396093
>The four of you search from the air for more of Nefarious’ forces, look for an entrance that way.
If we take all our fighters off the ship, Chaya is gonna get Skyneted.
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>>2396137

TIHS
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>>2396113
>>2396115
>>2396117
>>2396119
>>2396123
>>2396132
>>2396137
>>2396143
>>2396179
Get all the fighters(but 1) off the ship, have everyone comb the surface wins. Roll me a d100
DC 80
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Rolled 37 (1d100)

>>2396188
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Rolled 19 (1d100)

>>2396188

dice dont fai;l us now
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Rolled 89 (1d100)

>>2396188
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>>2396195
Clutch bless you.
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>>2396195

based anon
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>>2396195
>>2396193
>>2396192
89/100. Well, that was amazingly successful, writing.
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>>2396210

we found the exaust port. we lack ttorpedos to shoot down it however
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>>2396307
Just ram it at hyperspace speeds then. Why didn't Garven Dreis do that?
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>>2396074
>What about Tofoo with God Ki then?
Manhandles Karn for the first half of the fight, makes a retarded decision and gets a generous serving of Saiyan tail
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>>2396372
Base Karn vs Base Broosel then. Broly and Meloka having Girlfriend talk to the side.
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>>2396384
>Broosel
who?
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>>2396392
MC from Eail's Saiyan Warrior Quest.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=DBZ+Saiyan+Warrior+Quest
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also wanted to say about homing attacks, beams require concentration but blasts dont. however, blasts will only home on the initial attack and not curve back around or anything ex: shit like brolys eraser cannon
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>>2396093
“We do this the old-fashioned way.” you say, walking back towards the ship. They hesitantly follow you, you thinking to Raven, Meloka, and Vegeta, “I need you all out here, its time to get to work.”

Once everyone’s assembled outside the ship, you outline your plan to finally find his lair.

“Seems we don’t have much of a choice.” Raven says.
“I tried sensing for him, but got nothing.” Vegeta says, voice slightly heated. “Either he’s actually not here, or he’s somehow masking his presence.”
“We won’t know for sure until we look.” you say. “So who’s staying behind to watch the ship?”
“I can.” Raven says, catching you all off guard. Focusing, suddenly a shadow version of herself flies out of her body, coming to a stop overhead and looking down then speaking. “I can scout without ever leaving the ship.”
“I’ll stay behind as well.” Nappa says, you turning to the general startled. “I’m aware of my limits. If I go wandering around out there and there’s any more of those monsters, I could end up killed before I could raise an alarm. At least this way I have clear line of sight all around.”

“Alright then, I’ll leave them to you General.” You say, walking over to Nappa and placing a hand on his shoulder. “Keep them safe for me.”

He simply nods to you, you nodding back then turning to everyone. “Alright let’s move!”

As you’d all split up you headed north, Meloka went to the south, Vegeta and Turles went east while Raven’s double and Ubo went west. Your own search efforts weren’t exactly refined, but you’re here for a reason. You blast apart every pile of rubble, rock, and ruined building on your path, checking under where they were for any signs of an underground path. Your search eventually brings you to the ruins of the old Grey fortress, you remembering the battle like it was yesterday. But something’s different. You fly around the ruins, trying to place what’s wrong. You remember most of that battle, where you’d stomped the hangar still clear, the central tower blasted through in several places, scrap from the Grey saucers laying abou- Wait. You’d used the tower as a club, it wasn’t still standing when you’d left!

Flying closer to the tower you see that it is indeed newer, the rust that’s consuming the rest of the mangled ruins around you seemingly not touching this one. Looking closely at one of the too-perfectly broken windows, you see an odd glimmer reflecting from in the ruins behind you. Suddenly your instincts scream at you that you’re in danger, you need to move, now! You move to your left, turning to look towards the ruins, when it happens. A red beam is fired from somewhere within it, headed straight for you! You barely avoid the beam, it cutting a narrow track across the breastplate of your armor. This could be trouble.
cont- votes in next post
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>>2396447
What will you do?
>Rush and attack
>Defend, see what its got
>Evade, close in and see just what you’re up against
>Energy Wave
>Energy Bomb
>Scattershot
>Scatter Beam
>Other(write in)
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>>2396456
>Evade, close in and see just what you’re up against
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>>2396456
>>Evade, close in and see just what you’re up against
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>>2396456
>Evade, close in and see just what you’re up against
>Scattershot
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>>2396456
>>Evade, close in and see just what you’re up against
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>>2396456
>>Evade, close in and see just what you’re up against
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>>2396456
>Evade, close in and see just what you’re up against
Rushing in would be foolhardy. Incredibly so.
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>>2396456
>Evade, close in and see just what you’re up against

>Pick up the tower and then use it as a club again.
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>>2396456
>Evade, close in and see just what you’re up against
Once we find out about the dragon balls, we're blitzkreiging earth and reviving all the sayins killed by the BGS right?
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>>2396523
We should just skip the middleman and collect the Super Dragon Balls.
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>>2396459
>>2396464
>>2396466
>>2396477
>>2396482
>>2396485
>>2396512
>>2396523
Evade, close in and see just what you’re up against wins. Roll me a d100.
DC 70
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Rolled 40 (1d100)

>>2396544
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Rolled 42 (1d100)

>>2396544
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Rolled 85 (1d100)

>>2396544
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Rolled 38 (1d100)

>>2396544
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>>2396554
Based, fucking, clutch.
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>>2396554
clutch
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>>2396545
>>2396552
>>2396554
85/100, excellent dodging. Writing.
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>>2396554
The clutch returns I see.
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>>2396529
How are we supposed to wish on them?
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>>2396593
In the Language of the Gods, duh? Which is pretty much just japanese backwards.
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>>2396447
You focus on where you’d seen the shooter fire from, trying to sense anything from the building. Again you get nothing, except almost shot again. You narrowly avoid another beam fired right at you, this time carving out a thin line on the outside of your left shoulder. You grit your teeth against the sudden sting, focusing on carefully advancing. Instead of rushing headlong at it, you advance cautiously, dashing and stopping short, flying seemingly-erratically to try and get inside the building. This proves futile, the shooter always managing to keep track of you despite your speed and strange movement patterns. It must have a lock on your energy. Well, that means you can’t escape, so you’ll just have to move forward!

You blitz straight towards the building where the shots are being fired from, you narrowly dodging past a half-dozen shots then leaping, smashing through the wall beside where the shots are coming from. You land in a roll, avoiding another shot as you come to your feet and face your assailant.

Another of Nefarious’ machines stands before you, right arm converted into some sort of cannon. You both stare each other down, its weapon not facing you, and you on the ground on all fours, a bad spot to attack from. The staredown continues, neither of you moving, you knowing once this battle starts it’ll be intense.

What’ll you do?
>Rush and attack
>Defend, let it make the first move
>Evade and counter
>Eye Beams through its head
>Energy Blade and rush
>Death Slash
>Death Beam
>Other(write in)
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>>2396800
>Eye Beams through its head
I dunno if it will kill it, but hopefully will do enough to buy Karn time to move to a better position.
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>>2396800
>>Eye Beams through its head
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>>2396800
>Death Slash
This is the move Frieza spams in XV2 right?
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>>2396800
>Eye Beams through its head
then
>Energy Blade and rush
using the blade to parry shots
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>>2396092
The fuck are you talking about
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>>2396800
>Eye Beams through its head
Definitely won't kill it, but should stun it just long enough for Karn to move himself into a better position to engage from.
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>>2396859

this
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>>2396838
Yes. And the one he used to show Goku just how outclassed he was.
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would u guys think about learning recoome's eraser cannon? so we can disintegrate shit
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>>2396817
>>2396828
>>2396838
>>2396846
>>2396859
>>2396877
Eye Beams win, roll me a d100
DC 55
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Rolled 72 (1d100)

>>2396912
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Rolled 99 (1d100)

>>2396912
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Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>2396912
If we roll really high will they be like Slug's eye beams?
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Rolled 49 (1d100)

>>2396912
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>>2396918
Eyyy
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>>2396917
>>2396918
>>2396921
99/100, this calls for something special. Writing.
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>>2396941

boom headshot.

your head esplode
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>>2396918
>>2396941
Well then. Seems like this might actually kill it after all.
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Sorry for the delay, had supper

>>2396800
You and the machine stare each other down, both of you remaining frozen. You begin carefully gathering your ki behind your eyes, ready to unload. You feel the power beginning to overflow, ki leaking from your eyes. It sees the excess ki escaping, you seeing it start to move.

“DIE!!” you shout, it leaping to the side as you fire. You fired just too slowly, your beams traveling right past it as it leaps sideways, the machine rolling to its feet, bracing itself, and pointing its cannon at you. As your attack misses you snarl, focusing intensely on your beams, willing them to change course. It takes a moment, but then the energy suddenly changing direction! You watch the machine’s weapon charge, but before it can fire your beams take it through the back of its head and pierce it through its eye sockets. You roll to avoid your own attack, the beams piercing through the floor as well as you roll to your feet. It seems you got it, the machine collapsing to the ground in a sparking pile of junk. A few seconds later its arm cannon explodes, you shielding your eyes from the metal shrapnel.

-Guided Eye Beams Learned-

With that taken care of you take back to the air, examining the out-of-place tower again. Its sitting on the site of the old tower, it looks just the same as the other did. You fly through the tower, seeing that its completely empty inside. You fly down to the ground floor, looking around for an entrance to this underground lab. After searching for twenty-ish minutes, you finally notice the sealed blast door. The ENTIRE FLOOR is the blast doors, at least a fifty foot square door. Each door is a triangle, the four coming together to make the square door. You’ve found it!

What will you do?
>Telepathically let everyone know you’ve found it, force your way in
>Telepathically let everyone know you’ve found it, wait for them
>Force your way in, scout it out a bit and make sure it really is before letting everyone know
>Tell everyone over the scouter you’ve found it, force your way in
>Tell everyone over the scouter you’ve found it, wait for them
>Other(write in)
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>>2397227
>>Telepathically let everyone know you’ve found it, force your way in
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>>2397227
>Telepathically let everyone know you’ve found it, force your way in
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>>2397227
>Telepathically let everyone know you’ve found it, wait for them
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>Telepathically let everyone know you’ve found it, force your way inP
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>>2397234
>>2397237
>>2397241
>>2397269
Telepathically let everyone know, and force your way in wins. Roll me a d100
DC 35
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Rolled 38 (1d100)

>>2397321
And this will be the one we fail.
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Rolled 16 (1d100)

>>2397321
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Rolled 97 (1d100)

>>2397321
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Rolled 56 (1d100)

>>2397321
HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY
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Rolled 20 (1d100)

>>2397321
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>>2397339
Damn, we mind talk super good.
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>>2397350
>We mind talked so good that they become our avatars and we can fight through them
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>>2397332
>>2397334
>>2397339
97/100. Well well, writing.
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>>2397370

we have guided eye beams now. metal as fuck. now we need a mouth blast attack to combo together.
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karn is VERY LOUD over mindspeak
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>>2397477
like i said, recoome's eraser cannon is a good mouth attack cuz it disintegrate shit too
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>>2397495
So loud even uncle Freeza hears it?
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>>2397227
“I’ve found it.” you think to your team, giving them the location of the door. Everyone confirms except Ubo, Raven explaining he’s elbows-deep in another machine army and she’ll tell him again when he’s paying attention. You float down to the doors, reaching to where they all meet and wedging your hands in. The metal folds under your strength, you slowly wedging the door open. It is surprisingly difficult to open, the motorized doors fighting you to remain closes. You snarl in annoyance, aura flaring as you force the doors to open enough for you to enter, slipping through. The door slams shut behind you, your aura providing the only illumination for the downward-sloping patn. Well, that and the hundreds of glowing red eyes of Nefarious’ machines.

“Welcome, Super Saiyan.” Nefarious’ voice echoes out over a pa system. ”To your doom!! Destroy him, my minions!!”

“Nefarious!!” you shout. You’d forgotten just how badly his voice pissed you off, your ki rising as your blood boils, your body slightly shaking in rage. He’s here, the one responsible for killing most of the Saiyan race! You are gonna make him pay!! But first, you have to clear out some trash.

How?
>Rush and attack, smash them with your bare hands
>Energy Blade, carve them apart
>Death Slash your way through
>Scatter Beams
>Other(write in)
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>>2397624
>Death Slash your way through
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>>2397624
Close quarters? Lots of enemies in the path?
>Piercing fist through them all
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>>2397624
>Piercing fist through them all
I agree! Let's do this!
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>>2397624
>Piercing fist mark II through them all
Ah fuck, I am feeling so damn nostalgic, lets remind him why his engineering sucks dick.
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>>2397636

FALCON PUNC i mean DRAGON FIST!
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>>2397624
>Piercing fist through them all
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>>2397636
Let's do it.
>Piercing fist through them all
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>>2397636
>Piercing fist through them all
When in doubt, use Fist.
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>>2397630
>>2397636
>>2397642
>>2397644
>>2397646
>>2397647
>>2397680
>>2397692
Piercing Fist wins, roll me a d100.
DC 15
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Rolled 79 (1d100)

>>2397722
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>>2397722

care to explain why its only 15?
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Rolled 14 (1d100)

>>2397722
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Rolled 23 (1d100)

>>2397722
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Rolled 41 (1d100)

>>2397729

and yet sombody rolled under it. freaking plebs
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>>2397729
>One short
Dice Gods why?
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>>2397724
>>2397726
>>2397729
79/100. Success, writing.
>>2397726
They aren’t exactly a threat. The second real threat will step up soon.
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>>2397624
You’re gonna make that asshole pay! Just as soon as you get through his minions. They all begin firing their weapons, you floating and strafing side to side, weaving your way through their attacks while you gather your power in your right fist. It doesn’t take long, your fist glowing bright. Now!

“HAAAAAAAAAA!!!” you shout, your ki exploding from you as you launch ypur Piercing Fist down the hall. Your spiraling energy shreds the machines easily, even lashing out and scarring the walls as you charge. And as quick as that, its over, you landing crouched behind the mangled army. Rising up to your feet, you look down the hall, seeing a massive set of twin doors over a hundred feet away down the slope. Suddenly the doors open, a mysterious figure walking out. Your eyes widen in shock, you feeling a massive ki coming from the massive figure. It feels somehow familiar, but also tainted somehow. You feel the ground tremble slightly as the figure starts stomping towards you. The being is massive, the doors shutting behind it as it stomps toward you.

”Go, my newest minion!” Nefarious’ voice coming back. ”Do what I’ve brought you here to do, Bardock! Beat Karn!”

“Wait, Bardock?!” you think, your friend rushing at you surprisingly fast. You weren’t ready, barely managing to block his strike. The force of his punch sends you back, you flipping back and digging your heels in and stopping your short flight.

“Bardock, what the hell are you doing?” you shout, confused. “What did Nefarious do to you?!”
“RAAAAAAAAAA!!” he roars, charging you again.

What now?
>Rush and attack, knock him out quick
>Defend
>Evade
>Su Ma Grappling, dislocate his limbs so he can’t fight for Nefarious anymore
>Telepathically try and get through to him
>Energy Wave, knock him back
>Other(write in)
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>>2397941
>scan him real quick and see if you notice what's different about him
>Rush and attack, knock him out quick
>Su Ma Grappling, dislocate his limbs so he can’t fight for Nefarious anymore
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>>2397941
>>2397955
>Telepathically try and get through to him
Try this first, and if that doesn't work;
>Energy Wave, knock him back
>Su Ma Grappling, dislocate his limbs so he can’t fight for Nefarious anymore
Sorry Bardock, it's either you or us.
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>>2397955
>Su Ma Grappling, dislocate his limbs so he can’t fight for Nefarious anymore
And this is just a taste of what's to come. I can't wait to fight Time Breaker God Ki Infused Dark Super Saiyan 4 Bardock.
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>>2397971
Doing this seems to be the best bet, since he might even get a Zenkai boost later.
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>>2397955
>>Su Ma Grappling, dislocate his limbs so he can’t fight for Nefarious anymore
>>2397955
>>Telepathically try and get through to him
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>>2397955
>>2397967
This
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>>2397956
>>2397967
>>2397971
>>2397992
>>2397996
>>2398032
Su Ma Grappling to incapacitate Bardock wins, roll me a d100.
DC 85
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Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>2398050
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Rolled 48 (1d100)

>>2398050
COME ON MAN WAKE UP!
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Rolled 88 (1d100)

>>2398050
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Rolled 37 (1d100)

>>2398050
LET'S DO THIS!
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>>2398062
clutch again
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>>2398055
>>2398061
>>2398062
88/100. Clutch success, writing.
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>>2398062
WE'VE BEEN SAVED BY THE CLUTCH YET AGAIN!
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karn is not fucking around today.
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quesiton, is Old man henderson a thing in this universe. and is he something even the Kais fear?
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>>2397955
“Sorry Bardock.” you mutter out, taking your adjusted stance for the Su Ma Grappling style. He charges at you like a mad beast, not like his fighting style you remember. You lean back past his sloppy strike, you grabbing his arm by wrapping both of yours around it and twisting, dropping to a knee as you send him soaring up and over your shoulder, crashing hard into the ground. Before he can recover you slide under his arm and lock his arm in yours, your legs across his chest locking it in. With your advantage secured, you pulling and straining with your entire body.

You feel it when you succeed, the distinctive pop of a shoulder dislocating. Bardock roars, flailing madly. You release his arm and kick off, getting clear of his rampage and flipping back to your feet. You watch from a safe distance, Bardock completely out of control. After a moment his flailing stops, you seeing something odd. That thing on his wrist starts pumping something into the base of Bardock’s neck, him again roaring in pain. You watch on as he rises to his feet, right arm limp by his side as he expands, getting even larger.

“...The hell?” you mutter, taking a half-step back and resuming your grappling stance. The now even-larger Bardock focuses on you, eyes glowing red through the hood on his head. He roars again, rushing headlong recklessly at you.

What now?
>Rush and attack
>Defend, try and get through to Bardock
>Evade
>Keep up with Su Ma Grappling, you can win this
>Energy Blade, go after that device on his wrist
>Other(write in)
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>>2398197
No, not technically, but he did just get dropped in space Kansas at this time, so they don't know how to properly fear him yet. Whis is worried though.
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>>2398279
>>Evade
>>Wait for an opportunity to
>Energy Blade, go after that device on his wrist
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>>2398279
>Energy Blade, go after that device on his wrist
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>>2398279

>Energy Blade, go after that device on his wrist
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>>2398289
this
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>>2398279
>>Energy Blade, go after that device on his wrist
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>>2398279
>Energy Blade, go after that device on his wrist
It's still in his bloodstream, though. If we can make him bleed a bit, Those chemicals should exit a lot quicker.
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Fuck you Super you lied! LIED!
>>2398279
>>>Evade
>>>Wait for an opportunity to
>>Energy Blade, go after that device on his wrist
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>>2398289
>>2398290
>>2398291
>>2398292
>>2398320
>>2398361
>>2398392
Energy Blade wins, roll me a d100
DC 80
Taking the evade as well
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Rolled 70 (1d100)

>>2398407
PleasedontdieKarn.
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Rolled 95 (1d100)

>>2398407
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Rolled 8 (1d100)

we didi it reddit
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>>2398414
Oh yeah! What's that? Uhhu!
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>>2398412
>>2398414
>>2398417
95/100. Well well well, writing.
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>>2398437
You're a big roll.
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>>2398279
“So that thing is what’s letting Nefarious control him, huh?” you think to yourself. “Then I’ll just have to cut you free from this asshole’s control!”

You leap aside as Bardock charges, he’s now somehow even faster despite getting bulked up! But you won’t let that stop you. As Bardock mindlessly charges past you, you draw your Energy Blade, holding it up between the both of you as Bardock turns.

”Oh, you’ve finally decided to kill one of your own to get to me?!” Nefarious shouts, laughing. ”Yes, YES!! Do it you filthy monkies, kill each other for my amusement!”

“Shut! Up! Already!” you shout, launching yourself at Bardock. He roars, again pouncing at you. He swings with his left, you twisting with the Su Ma form around his massive fist, narrowly avoiding it. Twisting around, you lift your Energy Blade and bring it down, cutting through the hose connecting it to the base if his neck. In the same motion you slash again with the backhand, cutting the device on his wrist in half. Bardock roars out, an odd greenish fluid pouring from the machine and the hose from his neck. Bardock convulses in pain, thrashing uncontrollably as he slowly shrinks, more and more of the green fluid pouring out.

”Wait, what?!” Nefarious shouts out, confused. ”No, this can’t be happening!! You can’t win, you were supposed to die here!”
“You’re next.” you say, Bardock dropping still to the ground behind you as you walk toward the doors. You can sense Bardock’s ki settling back to normal, that odd fluid still pouring from him. You walk straight to the doors, pulling a fist back and preparing to knock the doors down.

“Wait wait wait!!” Nefarious shouts, sounding panicked. ”Don’t smash the doors down, I’m opening them, I’m opening them!”

This confuses you, but you simply cross your arms, waiting. Less than ten seconds pass, the doors starting to open before you. You walk through the double doors, and surprisingly you find yourself in what looks like a fighting arena. You look around curiously, wondering what’ll happen next. Unfortunately, you arent left waiting long.

”Welcome, Karn, to your new home. I feel I must thank you. Because you were somehow directly interfacing with the Big Gete Star, I was able to plant certain, let us say protocols in your mind. Now, you’re mine! Activate interface, Karn. Initiating protocol, SKCP9081!”

And suddenly everything goes black.
cont
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>>2398569
That pic makes karn look like a manlet.
He's not nearly bulky or tall enough.
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>>2398569

oh fuck. do we even get a roll to fight it?
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>>2398590
If the doc is controlling us, the guys are gonna be in for a hell of a fight, even if we end up mindlessly enraged and just launch ourselves at them without using su ma like bardock did.
Although, he's not using drugs to control us, so we may not end up berserking like that, in which case we're going to be much more dangerous.

Meanwhile, bardock is going to wake up here in a second wondering why his arm is dislocated.
I dunno, this may be the part where bardock finally manages to fully transform, which would be sweet.
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>>2398569
first thing i found when googling berserker saiyan, seems more accurate to me
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>>2398569
Hopefully we won't be able to tap into LSSJ while we're under Nefarious' control. Meloka, Vegeta, and Turles can probably just about handle us if we go Ascended Super Saiyan, but we're going to rip them apart if we go LSSJ. Although, LSSJ might give us the chance to regain control, depending on how things go.
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>>2398569
When you come to, you’re surprised to find you are still standing. You look around confused. Where are you? You hear something behind you, you turning around to see a group of strangers forcing a massive set of twin doors open. Who’re these guys?

”Karn, it is up to you.” your master calls out. You’d recognize his voice anywhere. ”Destroy them! Crush the intruders! Protect your master!”

“Karn?” the smallest of the intruders asks, a blonde female. “Karn, what’s going on?”
“Who are you?” you ask the intruder, stepping back into your fighting stance. “And how do you know my name?!”

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 37 Paused-
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>>2398632
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
NO NO NO NO NO NO
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>>2398632
And that’s it for tonight, we’ll be resuming 11am EST. So did everyone have fun? Questions here, I’ll do my best to answer them before falling asleep.
>>2398576
I appreciate all fanart.
>>2398590
Not yet.
>>2398600
Its gonna be fun.
>>2398606
Nice.
>>2398619
We’ll have to see.
>>2398639
Pic related.
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>>2398644
>be reading "smiles you failed to protect" thread
>be listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntqxI9I6Opo
>“Karn?” the smallest of the intruders asks, a blonde female.
>“Who are you? And how do you know my name?!”

NO NO NO NO NO
I REFUSE
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>>2398644
i asked earler and didnt get an awswer. is old man henderson a thing in this universe, and do the Kais fear him
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>>2398652
You’ll just have to see what happens, next time!
>>2398653
Leaning towards no on that one.
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wonder if godzilla is still alive somehow. live to see him come back yet again, this time in is 2014 or god forbid, resurgence form


also still hoping we get some PTO Combine interactions.
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>>2398644
Is this all an elaborate plot for karn to get experience with things dicking around in his head so that he can come closer to mastering legendary form?
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>>2398693
Never know what’s possible.
>>2398696
You’d have to ask the one responsible for this development.
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>>2398725
Did towa set all of this in motion to level up karn? Are we towas pokemon?
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>>2398731
well, towa IS a time traveling demon, manipulator
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>>2398736
.... Is ash from the demom realm as well?
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>>2398731
Maybe she did. And not quite.
>>2398736
Not wrong.
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>>2398760
Of all the karns working for the diferent towas are we the strongest? Where do we rate on the karn scale across the time lines?
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>>2398765
wouldnt this be a unique timeline seeing as it's a combined universe?
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random quesiton.

WHY does ss3 make you gain a shiton iof hair and lose your eyebrows?
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>>2398767
Perhaps. I remember mentioning qm mentioning a couple of different karns so far. One blew himself up to kill covie scum, one ended up taking the mind control mask in exchange for chayas safety. Canon one is dead on some backwater planet. Wanted to see where we stand.
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>>2398772
Why does normal super saiyan make your hair spiky and golden? It's just kind of one of those aesthetic changes they needed to differentiate the different super saiyan forms, or at least that's what I assumed. They couldn't exactly get much spikier after ssj2, so they decided to go with making it longer. They didn't figure out we'd let them get away with changing the colours until later, and colour changes don't translate very well to manga form anyways.
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>>2398791

that doestn explain the eyebrows though. or gokus voice change
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>>2398802
eyebrows i dunno but nothing wrong with a transformation that makes you're voice deeper cuz u become an edgy badass
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also another question, with ultra super sayin would ultra super sayin 2 be possible? or even 3? i mean yeah, the strain would be utterly hellish, espeically on threee, but its handy for when you need soemthing dead right fucking now
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>>2398802
Again, there isn't an actual explanation behind the hair change, either. It just kind of happens. If I had to look at it from a design perspective, I honestly can't really say. I guess it makes him look a little more serious? I mean, he can look angry when he's Super Saiyan, but he does look a little more, I dunno, harsh, without the eyebrows, so that might be what they were going for when they removed them in ssj3.
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>>2398765
Good question. But each new Karn from that initial changing choice forward is only as old as you are. The real question is: which string of choices would have led Karn to be as strong and optimized as possible?
>>2398772
Good question. Who knows?
>>2398777
Poor main timeline Karn. Never got his time to shine.
>>2398821
It is possible, but very very risky.
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>>2398852

obviosuly the timeline where karn only rolled triple nat 100's
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>>2398852
The more you punish karn, the stronger he gets. I assume it's a Karn who had a meloka, chaya, and chilli but ended up losing them all.
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>>2398852
>The real question is: which string of choices would have led Karn to be as strong and optimized as possible?
As an enemy in Som quest.
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damn now im wondering if we will have a Crisis of Infinite Karns
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>>2398892
Is som the shadman of QMs at this point?
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>>2398632
MOTHERFUCKER!
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>>2399026
No, Shadman is pretty funny and seemingly approachable.
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>>2398858
Ha
>>2398874
Would it, or just break him?
>>2398892
Kek
>>2398896
Oooooo.
>>2399045
Yes.
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>>2399124
>Yes
Nefarious is Karns dad confirmed.
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>>2398632
“Karn? Its me, Meloka Don-Don’t you know me?” the blonde woman asks.
“Should I?” you ask, genuinely confused. Your answer seems to crush her, the woman simply collapsing. She would have fallen to the ground if it wasn’t for that odd cloaked woman, a strange dark power enveloping both her hand and the short woman, her eyes glowing white. She sets the short woman on the ground gently, then glares up at you. She’s about to say something, when a short black-haired child steps forward.

“Nefarious, what did you do to Karn?” he shouts out. “I demand that you release him immediately!”
”Or you’ll do what, little king?” Nefarious taunts over the comms. ”According to the data, Karn is more than twice your strength even before transforming. What do you think you can do against your oh-so venerated master?”

Master? What’s going on, this doesn’t make any sense. You’re sure you’d remember having a student, right? Just like back, on.... What were you doing again?

”Enough talk! Karn, destroy them! Destroy them all!”
“Yes master.” you reply, snapping back to focus. You look between the gathered strangers, sizing them all up. The big one at the back of the group looks the toughest, but the small blonde female draws your eyes. There’s something about her...

“HAAAAAAAAA!!!” the child shouts, hair changing from black to gold, his eyes changing to green somehow, and a golden aura envelopes him.

Super Saiyan.

You don’t know how you know this, but you know what that shocking transformation is. And, even more surprisingly, you how to do the same thing!

“RRRAAAAAAAAA!!” you shout, golden aura flaring up around you as well. You feel your body changing, it feeling right. Like this is how you’re supposed to be.
“Well, it seems you still remember that.” the short kid says, taking his own fighting stance. “Looks like there’s no way around it now. Let’s do this!”

Well?
>Rush and attack
>Defend
>Evade and counter
>Energy Wave
>Energy Punch
>Other(write in)
30 minute vote
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>>2399149
>>Rush and attack
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>>2399149
>Think about who they are.
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>>2399153
This.
We can handle enough punishment as it is, Vegeta probably won’t do that much before we are solve this issue, unless he Final Flashes is point blank...
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>>2399149
>Rush and attack.
Interesting, seems we dont remember Su Ma atm.
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>>2399149
>Rush and attack
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>>2399159
*us
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>>2399149
>>Rush and attack
Inb4 we roll a nat 100 and kill geets.
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>>2399149
>Rush and attack
but also backing >>2399153 as a side thought
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>>2399152
>>2399153
>>2399159
>>2399160
>>2399162
>>2399172
>>2399180
Rush and attack wins, roll me a d100.
DC 65
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Rolled 53 (1d100)

>>2399189
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Rolled 5 (1d100)

>>2399189
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Rolled 36 (1d100)

>>2399189
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>good roll luck ends now
thank god, hopefully we get a good one to regain control
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>>2399190
>>2399193
>>2399194
53/100. Well that’s an unexpected failure, writing.
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>>2399194
>>2399193
>>2399190
Thank god, serves ya'll right for not trying to brain this.
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>>2399198
I think we're about to job to the entire Syrian high command
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>>2399199
Think of the gains faggot. We get beaten up since we still subconsciously recognize geets, then we get zenkai from being beat up.
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>>2399149
With a shout you launch yourself at the now-blonde fighter, him dashing to you as well. It doesn’t matter if he’s only a child or not, you know that a Super Saiyan is a serious opponent. You charge at him, swinging with a right at his head. He twists outside your punch, your eyes widening in surprise for a moment before you feel a tremendous impact on the back of your head. It slams you face-first down into the ground, you using the momentum to push back off, twisting and flipping to land back on your feet. As soon as your feet touch down you blast back off towards him, unleashing a barrage of punches and kicks. Despite this, you can’t seem to land a solid hit on him. His defenses are tight, your strikes unable to penetrate his guard. You overextend a punch, leaving yourself exposed, and that’s when he strikes.

Ducking your punch, he delivers a hard right to your gut. You wheeze out, the heavy strike taking your breath from you and lifting you off of your feet. Before you can get your guard back up he unleashes on you, heavy uppercuts to your gut and lifting you higher and higher in the air. The warrior then frontflips, locking his hands together and slamming them onto the back of your head. The impact is tremendous, sending you crashing down hard to the ground.

You clutch your head with a hand, ears ringing from the impact as you rise unsteadily to your feet.

“Hmph, is that it?” he asks, tauntingly. You snarl angrily, clenching your fists at the boy’s arrogance. A few lucky hits and he thinks he’s now better than you, you who taught him- Wait, you taught him? What did you teach him? You clutch your head, images of you fighting him before surfacing in your mind, you clutching your aching head. Who is he? When did you fight him before? Wha-

”Karn, stop screwing around and beat him already!”

“Yes master.” you say, the uncomfortable thoughts again disappearing from your mind. Focused again, you drop back into your fighting stance, the smirking boy doing the same.

What now?
>Rush and attack again
>Defend, find your opening
>Evade and counter
>Energy Wave
>Energy Punch
>Other(write in)
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>>2399239
>Defend, find your opening
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>>2399239
>>Defend, find your opening
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>>2399239
>>Rush and attack again
>>Other(write in)
Go super Saiyan.
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>>2399239
>>Energy Wave
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>>2399247
You already are.
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>>2399251
Then just finish them with final flash, our master said to finish them now.
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>>2399239
>Defend, find your opening
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>>2399239
>Think about who they are
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>>2399244
>>2399245
>>2399248
>>2399255
>>2399256
>>2399263
Defend, find your opening wins. Roll me a d100.
DC 55
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Rolled 97 (1d100)

>>2399270
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>>2399239
>>Think about who they are
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Rolled 93 (1d100)

>>2399270
Killing geets time
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Rolled 93 (1d100)

>>2399270
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>>2399271
>>2399276
>>2399277
WE ARE FUCKING INVINCIBLE!
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Rolled 82 (1d100)

>>2399270
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>>2399276
>>2399277
Nearly identical posting time and same roll aswell.
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>>2399277
>>2399276
>>2399271
holy. fucking. shit.
that's what you get for talking shit, vegeta
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>>2399271
>>2399276
>>2399277
What is up with these rolls? 97/100, success. Writing.
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>>2399283
Also notice that the two 93s are simultaneous
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>>2399271
>>2399276
>>2399277
I can't believe Vegeta's fucking dead.
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>>2399278
THATS A BAD THING RIGHT NOW YOU IDIOT!
>>2399271
>>2399276
>>2399277
FUCKING USELESS!
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>>2399287
That would be too good, our party need some culling.
>>2399288
Too bad for you I actually want someone dead.
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>>2399289
NOT OUR TEAMMATES YOU STUPID FUCK, KILL THE DOCTOR!
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>>2399290
If our teammates can't even handle this they are better off dead anyway.
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>>2399289
>Ha I know you guys spent all this time doing these things
>I don't care, I just want people to die because its funny.

Pure autism at its finest.
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Saiyans never did have the strongest mental control.

But isn't Raven a pretty good psychic, I feel like she could sense this.

Of course she couldn't do much against Brother Blood, Mother Mae-Eye or Mad Mod...
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>>2399289
fuck off, autistic trash.If you want someone to die, instead of ruining other people's work justkill your worthless self.
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>>2399319
Anon...c'mon.

You know responding to such things only makes them stronger.
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>>2399333
You are correct.
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>>2399239
This time he doesn’t wait, launching himself recklessly at you. You tighten your muscles, preparing to weather his onslaught. You cross your arms before you, taking the full power of his punch on your arms. His attack pushes you back a yard or so, you managing to keep your feet under you. Without hesitation he launches himself after you, unleashing a barrage of powerful strikes. Yet he’s unable to penetrate your guard. Its almost as if you know where his attacks are coming from. Which is preposterous, as he’s attacking you from every side. Yet somehow, you know these moves. Every spin, every twist, every unexpected attack you somehow know is coming. And you’re able to block each of his strikes, to his clear frustration.

“Dammit!” he shouts, as you block yet another unexpected strike. “C’mon Karn snap out of it! We’re right here! We’re this close to ge-“

He’s interrupted by your foot catching his chin, you catching him by surprise and launching him up in the air. He tries to recover, but you’re on the aggressive now. Twisting, spinning, and flipping as he was, you overpower his unprepared defenses, pummeling him over and over. With a final shout you uppercut him, launching him higher. Before he gets away you grab his foot, and with a quick spin you toss him down to the ground, slamming hard enough to make a crater.

Su Ma

The name comes to you, somehow you know it is the name of that fighting technique. Floating down beside the downed fighter, you lift him by an arm, kicking him squarely in the chest back into his friends. Lowering your foot slowly, you hold your hands up, looking past them. Memories flood back in, you using the Su Ma to fight a pale alien, then again on the small blonde woman. Who is she?

“THAT’S ENOUGH KARN!!”

Looking up, the small woman is marching over to you, her face a mess of emotions. Before you can really prepare yourself, she floats up to your eye level, wraps her arms around your neck and kisses you. You’re about to fight back, when suddenly memories start flooding in. Who you are, who they are, who she is, why you’re here, it all comes flooding back in a torrent of memories. You remember! After another few moments she pulls back, you looking into her eyes.

“Meloka.”
cont
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>>2399373
>punch self in face
>PUNCH SELF IN FACE HARD
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>>2399377
THIS! APPLY ENERGY FIST TO OUR FACE!
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Oh man, popping berserker is gonna be so fucking great once we break the mind control
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>>2399381
>breaks mind control to regain self
>pops berserker to instantly lose control again

Anon what even?
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>>2399373
“Karn, is it really...?” she asks, uncertain.
“Its me.” you reply, pulling her back close to you. “I’m back.”
“Karn....” she says, burying her face in your neck. You feel tears on your neck, hugging Meloka close to you. You can’t really believe you’d ever forget-

”Karn, stop now!” Nefarious’ voice calls out, angrily. ”What are you doing?! Stop messing around already, destroy them! Kill, Kill KILL!!”

Your instincts suddenly blare out a warning, you pushing Meloka away and clutching your head as sudden agony tears through your mind. You scream out in pain, everyone looking concerned.

”If you won’t serve me, then I’ll you destroy everything! Activate interface, Karn. Initiating protocol, SKCP9990! Destroy! EVERYTHING!!”

You feel barriers in your mind collapsing, a surge of murderous rage flowing through you. Pure power flows through your body, trying to explode from you.

“RRRRrrrrrrrAAAAAAAAAAA!!!” you shout, clutching your head. That power is trying to force its way out of you, to rampage to destroy, to kill! You feel your control slipping, you can’t hold on, you-

“Karn, look at me!” Meloka shouts, grabbing your hands on your head and forcing you to look right at her. “C’mon Karn! You’ve never backed down from anything in your life! Don’t you dare give up now! Fight it Karn! FIGHT!!”

>Roll me a d100
DC hidden
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Rolled 10 (1d100)

>>2399411
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Rolled 88 (1d100)

>>2399411
YEEEEART
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Rolled 59 (1d100)

>>2399411
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Rolled 8 (1d100)

>>2399411
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Rolled 37 (1d100)

>>2399411
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>>2399421
definitely good enough, has to be
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>>2399416
>>2399421
>>2399425
88/100. Is it enough? Writing.
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>>2399433
>STAB SELF IN LEG
>INITIATE STAB SELF IN LEG PROTOCOL
>INITIATE FINAL FLASH THAT FAGGOT DOCTOR PROTOCOL
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>This is what I come to
Holy shit, let it be enough
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>>2399460
IT
FUCKING
WILL
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>>2399411
You focus, staring into Meloka’s eyes. You nod once to her, she nods and backs up, giving you room to work.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-7EZdOLWN18

“RAAAAAAAAA!!” you shout, aura flaring wildly out of control. The sheer weight of the power trying to escape shatters the ground beneath your feet, lightnig dancing off of your aura and carving tracks through the room.

“GO!” you shout to them, body trembling with barely-restrained power. “Get Nefarious! Do not let him get away!”
“Right!” Vegeta shouts, charging at the far doors. Ubo follows him closely, each grabbing a door and trying to pry it open.

“I believe in you.” Meloka says, floating past you quickly. “C’mon Raven, hurry!”
“R-Right...” she says, drifting past you somewhat disoriented. But you can’t focus on them anymore. You have to restrain this, or this power could destroy everyone. Your crew, your friends. Meloka. Chaya. They’re all in danger!

Your resolve hardens, you roaring out now not in pain, but outrage! That bastard dared to invade your mind, and control your body?! You will not stand for this!!

”Karn you can’t let them get away! I order you to-!”
“SHUT UP!!” you roar, energy violently exploding out from you. “How DARE You?!! You tried to destroy my race, and now you possess my mind and body to turn me against my friends?! I will never forgive you for what you’ve done!!”
”What I’ve done? What I’ve Done?!!” He shouts, outraged. “You destroyed my race! Billions of people, gone! And for what? So you damn apes could satisfy your lust for battle? I’ll give you your battle! Activate interface, Karn. Initi-“

“ENOOUUUGH!!!” you shout, ki flaring out from you in an Explosive Wave. Your energy carves out the room in a sphere, destroying the walls, ceiling, and floor. Your blast turned the cubic room mostly to a sphere, you dropping to your knees and panting out in exhaustion and relief. You simply focus on your breathing, recovering from having to expend so much energy so quickly. It takes you a few minutes, but you finally recover, standing back up with a little wobble.

“Karn, we’ve got him.”
cont
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>>2399574

if bardocks up to it, i almost wanna say we''ll hold the fucker down and bardock finish him off.
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>>2399579
No, let's do it together.
All of us.

One giant energy wave.
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>>2399584
This, but cut his arms and legs off, take him outside to the rebuilt city, blow it up in front of him. Then set him in the ashes. Blow up the moon with him being blasted into the core.
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>>2399570
>Undertale
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>>2399584

burning finger speech but replace burning finger with group final flash.
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>>2399574
Meloka’s words echo in your mind. We’ve got him. We’ve got him!

“I’ll be right there.” you think back, walking unsteadily up out of the crater and through the door they’d forced open. You walk down a straight hallway, mechanical scrap laying everywhere. Your friends’ handiwork. You stumble down the hall, coming to a pair of knocked-down doors. Walking in, you see an odd mix between laboratory and factory, but the scenery isn’t what catches your eyes. You see an old, frail-looking Grey alien held down on his knees by the shoulders by a very angry Ubo, he’s not going anywhere.

“Well well well, and here he is.” Nefarious snarls, still defiant in the face of death. “The genocidal monster himself. Sent your slaves ahead to hold me down while you finished me off? Too afraid to fight me like a man?”
“Quiet.” Ubo says, squeezing his shoulders fractionally harder. By the wince Nefarious gives in response, he’s clearly much weaker than Ubo’s fingers. As if you couldn’t sense that, even Raven is stronger than him.

Well?
>Interrogate him, find out how to fix what he did to you
>Death Beam through the head, just kill him already
>Kick him onto the ground, simply stomp his head in
>Cripple his limbs and take him with you, give Freeza a gift
>Let someone else kill him, you’ve had enough of today
>Smash up his lab and factory first, make him watch all his work crumble before he dies
>Other(write in)
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>>2399620
>Smash up his lab and factory first, make him watch all his work crumble before he dies.
Suffer you piece of shit.
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>>2399620
>Consult your friends as to the course of action, taunt him
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>>2399620
>Smash up his lab and factory first, make him watch all his work crumble before he dies

Then this>>2399597
>but cut his arms and legs off, take him outside to the rebuilt city, blow it up in front of him. Then set him in the ashes. Blow up the moon with him being blasted into the core.
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>>2399620
>>Cripple his limbs and >Smash up his lab and factory first, make him watch all his work crumble then give Freeza a gift
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>>2399620
Do >>2399633
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>>2399620
>Cripple his limbs and take him with you, give Freeza a gift
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>>2399620
>>Kick him onto the ground, simply stomp his head in
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>>2399620
>>Interrogate him, find out how to fix what he did to you
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>>2399620
>>Cripple his limbs and take him with you, give Freeza a gift
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>>2399620
>Interrogate him, find out how to fix what he did to you
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>>2399620
>>Interrogate him, find out how to fix what he did to you
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>>2399620
>>Interrogate him, find out how to fix what he did to you
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>>2399628
>>2399632
>>2399633
>>2399634
>>2399638
>>2399640
>>2399642
>>2399647
>>2399668
>>2399671
>>2399678
>>2399683
Interrogate him wins, roll me a d100
Percentage roll, not DC
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>>2399620
>Interrogate him, find out how to fix what he did to you
Having some sort of weakness to machinery would be rather bad.
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Rolled 60 (1d100)

>>2399691
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Rolled 71 (1d100)

>>2399691
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Rolled 68 (1d100)

>>2399691
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>>2399698
>>2399697
>>2399694
71/100. Well, you managed to get something out of him. Writing.
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>>2399620
“Alright listen up.” you say, kneeling in front of the doctor and glaring into his eyes. “You’re gonna tell me everything you did to me, and how to fix it. Got it?”
“Everything?” he asks, chuckling. “To explain even a fraction of what I did to you would be a fruitless endeavor, your puny monkey minds cannot even begin to grasp the depths of my genuis!”
“Oh yeah? Then if you’re such a genuis, how was I able to overpower it?” you retort, enjoying his frustration with that fact.
“You are savages!” he shouts angrily, trying to rise despite Ubo holding him down. “Your brains are the underdeveloped minds of giant children! You filthy apes are ruled solely by your emotions, logic and order have only a tenuous grip on your feeble brains. Trying to impose order was-“
“Cut the crap.” you say, glaring. “What exactly did you do to me, and how do I fix it?”

“Fix it? Fix it?! You stupid monkey, there is no fixing it!” he says, starting to laugh hysterically. “The very fabric of your mind has been rewritten like a machine, programmed to accept commands. To dumb it down incredibly for even a simpleton like you to understand, now anyone saying the proper commands to you is like changing the settings on a gravity flow manipulation system. You simply press the button and it changes! There’s nothing you can do about it now!”

“Nothing? Then why are you acting so nervous fo-?”

Ding

You all turn and look towards the sound, seeing maybe some sort of communications device as Nefarious begins cackling maniacally.

“What was that?” you shout, grabbing him by the collar. “What the hell was that for?”
“Its over for you, Super Saiyan.” Nefarious gloats. “That was the confirmation signal. The complete list of commands and controls to cripple your ability to fight has been sent out to every major power and most of the minor powers in the universe, including the PTO and the Covenant! Now anyone with a grudge against you can find and command you to their heart’s content! My final gift to you!”

Well, what now?
>Keep trying to dig for info, there has to be a way!
>Reach out and grab his skull, crush it
>Kick him over and stomp his head in
>Cripple his limbs and leave him for dead
>Smash his lab/factory, you need to vent and his life’s work seems a good target
>Other(write in)
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>>2399809
>Keep trying to dig for info, there has to be a way!
>Haul him to Freniza and his people
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>>2399809
>>Keep trying to dig for info, there has to be a way!
[worry]
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>>2399809
>>Reach out and grab his skull, crush it
>slowly
>call Towa
if there's anybody who knows about mind-control, it's Towa
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>>>Cripple his limbs and Smash up his lab and factory first, make him watch all his work crumble then give Freeza a gift
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>>2399809
this>>2399827
but telepath Freeza and Towa for ideas on how to get him to break it.
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>>2399809
>>Kick him over and stomp his head in
>Smash his lab/factory, you need to vent and his life’s work seems a good target
>Other: Contact Towa and ask her to help fix this.
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>>2399809
>>2399825
Supporting

Let's not smash the lab. That's free tech for the PTO after all.
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>>2399809
>Keep trying to dig for info, there has to be a way!
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>>2399809
>other:Contact Towa to help fix it.
>Keep trying to dig for info, there has to be a way!
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>>2399832
I'm changing my vote to include the part about Towa and Freeza, ask them how to break the bastard.
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>>2399809
>Other(write in)
>Then give me the list.

If our crew knows it too, they can command us if we get taken over.

Or better yet, if we know the command code, we can just command ourselves not to take commands.

>Totally not pulling this from Ella Enchanted
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>>2399822
>>2399824
>>2399825
>>2399827
>>2399832
>>2399846
>>2399851
>>2399860
>>2399861
>>2399871
Keep trying wins. Roll me a d100.
DC 95
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Rolled 58 (1d100)

>>2399887
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Rolled 34 (1d100)

>>2399887
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Rolled 24 (1d100)

>>2399887
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Rolled 89 (1d100)

>>2399887
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Rolled 100 (1d100)

>>2399887
YEEEEEEEART
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>>2399896
I'm sorry.....
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>>2399896
FUCK
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>>2399902
Die, never roll after the first 3 again.
Fuck you yeart guy, fuck you
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>>2399889
>>2399893
>>2399894
58/100. Writing. Looks like he’s taking his secrets with him.
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>>2399916
WAIT! DO WE HAVE A BANKED CRIT?!
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>>2399919
What’s that?
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>>2399916

LET THE CRIT COUNT!
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>>2399896
If you were a bit faster.

Time to ask Towa for a fix, we can do a mission forher right away as compensation. I honestly doubt she would want the risk of us getting controlled and killed, especially due to future Chaya.
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>>2399924
Something for casuals QM don't worry about it.
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>>2399924
Don't we have a crit we saved?
>>2399896
Not this worthless fucking failure obviously.
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>>2399933
Have you tried not being a little bitch?
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>>2399936
Have you tried being useful?
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>>2399939
Show me the 100's you've rolled anon. You forget the other times I've made the 3 post limit with 90+.
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>>2399919
Since when are we using a fate or bonus system where you can bank crits?
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this fucking sucks, every fight we get into now we could just randomly turn on our allies. we deifnatly need to ask towa to help us.

or since it was giving to the PTO ask freeza to use it to command us to ignore further commands.
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>>2399968
Could this work QM?
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>THE NUMBERS KARN, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!
The episode.
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>>2399809
“Well then, it looks like we’re not leaving here until you tell me how to undo it.” you say, sitting before Nefarious. “My ship has supplies for me and my crew for another five months. Six if we stretch it. What that means for you, is you’re gonna stay right there until either you tell me how to undo this, or you starve to death. Your choice.”

You weren’t quite expecting the reaction you got. He doesn’t give you the answer, or tell you to go to hell. He starts laughing in your face! For over a minute he laughs, you start thinking he’s gone mad before he settles down.

“Ohh, that’s rich!” Nefarious says, a giggle to his voice. “You really thought I would ever let myself be captured alive?”
“Wha-?” you ask, seeing him bite down hard on something in his mouth. “Wait what are you doing?!”
“You won’t kill me, Saiyan.” he says, his body starting to twitch. “I won’t give, you.... th....”

And he’s gone. Just like that, the phantom who’d menaced you for several years is just, gone. You didn’t even get the satisfactions of killing him! Ubo drops the lifeless body, you snarling and rising to your feet. Before you can do anything else an explosion rocks the underground facility, nearly knocking everyone over.

“What was that?” Raven asks, looking around fearfully.
“Dammit!” Vegeta says, fingers on a keyboard and reading the display. “He’s rigged this entire moon to blow! We’ve only got about a minute before this whole rock goes up!”
“Shit!” Meloka shouts, gathering her energy to blast her way out.
“No time!” you shout, running over to Raven. “Quick, get us out of here!”
“R-Right!” she shouts, making her portal. Everyone runs through, you then Raven going through last and it closing behind her. Looking around, you see you’re on the bridge of your ship, your pilots looking confused at your sudden arrival.

“We’re leaving, right now!” you say to them, both snapping to action. They both turn to their controls, your ship lifting off within a few seconds. You don’t put in any coordinates yet, simply backing off far enough to safely watch the fireworks. You all stood there on the bridge, waiting for the boom. And you weren’t disappointed. A column of fire rises up off of the moon’s surface, then the entire rock goes up in a fireball. Its over. Its actually, finally over.
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>>2400044
>Its over. Its actually, finally over.


No Karn. It's far from over. This is just the beginning.
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>>2400044
You remain standing there, looking at where the rock was long after the lights have faded. Everyone has left except Meloka, who’s simply holding onto you, and the pilots, waiting for the next destination. Meloka gives them the order to return to New Salda, they look uncertainly at each other a moment then doing it, punching it in. You watch out for another few moments, then turn and walk towards the bridge’s door. Before you make it there, the door opens, a tiny projectile slamming into you.

“DADDY!!” Chaya shouts, slamming herself into your chest and knocking you off-balance. You take a step back to keep upright as you wrap your daughter in your arms, you can tell she was crying.
“Chaya, what’s wrong?” you ask her, concerned. “What happened?”
“Mo-Mo-Momma and Daddy go bye-bye!” she says, clinging to you and crying. “I, I couldn’t fe-feel you anymore!”
“Its okay Chaya, its okay.” you say, hugging her close and patting her back. “We’re all okay. There was just a door we couldn’t sense through, we’re alright.”
“That’s right.” Meloka says, patting Chaya on the head and smiling at her. “We’re just fine sweetie. See?”

Chaya looks up, looking between the two of you, smiling and sniffling to try to hold back her tears before crying again. You chuckle a bit, holding her close and shhh-ing her, walking from the bridge to your room, Chaya crying herself to sleep in your arm. The door to your room opens before you both, you gently setting Chaya down on her bed and tucking her in. Before you rise, you hear a voice behind you.

“Hello, Karn.”
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>>2400090

hello towa we both know what i want.
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>>2400090
https://youtube.com/watch?v=IkgSOy-S-eU

“Princess Towa.” you say quietly, standing slowly, turning, and bowing. “What brings you here?”
“I’m sure you haven’t forgotten.” she says smugly, but also oddly quietly. You guess she doesn’t want to wake Chaya up. “I told you I’d have a mission for you soon. Its time.”
“Now? Right now?” Meloka asks quietly, rising up off the bed she’d just sat down on.
“Indeed.” she says. “But first, I should offer an apology to you Karn. I’d thought I had cleared Nefarious’ nonsense out of your head. It seems I was wrong. I’ll finish taking care of all that after you return successful from this mission.”

“After?” Meloka says, a bit of heat to her voice, her struggling to keep it quiet despite her indignation. “Are you holding him hostage just to get your job done?”
“I’m doing no such thing.” she says indignantly. “But the mission involves getting something that I need to clear that nonsense in his head out. I can’t do it without it. So, are you both ready? Your partner for the job is impatiently waiting to see you both.”

Well?
>Let’s go! I want this out of my head as soon as possible
>I need more information, what’s the job?
>Who’s this “partner?”
>Not yet, I need to eat first
>No, I can’t right now
>Other(write in)
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>>2400131
>>I need more information, what’s the job?
>>Who’s this “partner?”
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>>2400131
>>Let’s go! I want this out of my head as soon as possible
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>>2400131
Yes. Let's do this, karn needs to vent.
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>>2400131
>Let’s go! I want this out of my head as soon as possible
>I need more information, what’s the job?
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>>2400131
>Let’s go! I want this out of my head as soon as possible
>I need more information, what’s the job?
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>>2400131
>Who’s this “partner?”
I hope we get our ass kicked by the Supreme Kai of Time.

Because she's a Supreme Kai and probably pretty strong.
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>>2400131
>Let’s go! I want this out of my head as soon as possible
>Who’s this “partner?”
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>>2400131
I can't.
I'm a liability to your mission with these commands in me. It's possible the very mission you send me on, could have had those commands codes sent to them.

I'm a security risk as long as it's possible for someone to control me.

But if you got anything that could block it for the mission, then fine. A temporary measure until I return.
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>>2400131
>>Let’s go! I want this out of my head as soon as possible
>>Who’s this “partner?”
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>>2400131
>Let’s go! I want this out of my head as soon as possible
>Who’s this “partner?”
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>>2400161
.........no it cant, Nefarious isn't able to send that shit cross dimensions.
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>>2400131
>Let’s go! I want this out of my head as soon as possible
>Who’s this “partner?”

I'm betting it's darkest timeline chaya.
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>>2400161


this
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>>2400184
You 100% sure on that?

Maybe he had his own Nefarious Council.
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>>2400193
Towa and the Time Patrol would notice the genocide nerd blowing up sayiens everywhere he went. He is physically and mentally incapable of doing it. His biggest fuck you was pulling it off, and his suicide kill attempt.
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>>2400139
>>2400141
>>2400146
>>2400148
>>2400149
>>2400150
>>2400156
>>2400161
>>2400175
>>2400183
>>2400187
>>2400191
Let’s go and Who’s the partner win. Writing.
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so, since doomguys going to be a thing, wah about the guy form wolfenstine and Duke nukem?
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>>2400270
i can totally see Duke being around with the likes of Vox but why BJ? there's not much going for him in the enemy department.
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>>2400131
“Let’s go then!” you say. “I want this out of my head as soon as possible.”
“Alright I’m in.” Meloka says, floating over to you and wrapping her arms over your shoulders. “Let’s go.”
“Alright then, hold still.” she says, a ki-less blue woman appearing. “Grab onto my assistant, and we’ll be on out way.”

You and Meloka each reach out and place a hand on her, your touch confirming she’s some kind of metal being. Before you vanish you look around, expecting to see a certain purple-haired meddler appear, and are slightly disappiinted that he doesn’t appear. Suddenly you’re in a wasteland, staring down a massive blue being. His ki is astronomical, his sheer power blowing your mind. He could take you, Ubo, Meloka, Vegeta, King Cold, Freeza, and everyone else all at once. And you’re certain you’d all lose, his strength is amazing.

“S-So this is that partner you were talking about?” you ask Towa, unable to take your eyes from him. He seems completely uninterested in your group, focused on nothing but watching everything around him.
“Ohohoho no, this is Mira.” Towa says, running her fingertips up his arm. “I built him myself.”
“Wait, built?” Meloka asks, looking as confused as you feel. “But-“
“But you can’t sense a machine’s ki?” Towa says smugly. “Oh please, don’t compare the future ruler of the Demon Realm to that hack Nefarious’ scrap metal toys. And the partner I’d spoke of is through here.”

With that she waves her staff left to right, a round portal appearing. Its slightly different than Raven’s portals, you can’t see through it. But Towa walks through confidently, Meloka landing beside you and you both walk side-by-side through the portal. You hear it close behind you, but your eyes are focused on the woman with Towa. Her height is between yours and Meloka’s, she’s openly gawking at the both of you. Her energy is massive, not nearly as strong as Mira’s but hers feels really familiar.

“Da-Daddy?” she asks, taking a hesitant step forward. Wait, could it be?
“Chaya?” you ask, confused. “Is that you?”
“DADDY!!” she shouts, dashing faster than you can track and slamming into you, squeezing you as if desperately trying to keep you from disappearing. You wheeze out a bit, bewildered by the sudden twist, patting her on the back and whispering to her like you just did for your daughter in your time. She cries for several minutes, Meloka taking it in and Towa looking slightly unsettled. She eventually stops crying, pulling back and smiling at you, then turning to Meloka. “M-Mom?”
“Its me Chaya.” Meloka says, floating up to eye-level with her future daughter.
“So you’re my mother.” Future Chaya says, walking up to her slowly and hugging her. “I always wondered what it would be like to meet you.”
“Wait, what?” Meloka asks.

-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 37 End-
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>>2400373
And that’s it! Everyone enjoy this episode? Excited for the next one? Wondering how Karn and Meloka will take her story, and what Towa’s mission will be? And most importantly, have fun?
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>>2400383
I'm moderately spooked by the concept of time travel becoming too prevalent.
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>>2400373
Ooooooooooooh, why must you hit us with this?! You teasing fucker.
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>>2400407
We’re not going full time warrior.
>>2400410
Because its a perfect cliffhanger?
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>>2400373
>“But you can’t sense a machine’s ki?” Towa says smugly. “Oh please, don’t compare the future ruler of the Demon Realm to that hack Nefarious’ scrap metal toys.
I'm a need a Towa version of this pic.
>>2400383
good shit as always, shame I couldn't be for most of it.
I was secretly hoping for brainwashing shenanigans, not to say i wouldn't vote to remove them
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>>2400460
Towa is always smug.
There’s always next week anon.
>spoiler
While its something that can be done well in a narrative, it isn’t easy for quests as it limits everything.
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>>2400373
>>2400548

Okay so this confirms there was another timeline split at some point. Presumably in the 'unaltered' timeline Future Chaya comes from, Towa decided to let Meloka die that one time rather than intervene? Thus she grew up without ever knowing her mother?
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>>2400550
Not quite. Up to just before Karn’s battle with Trunks everything went the same, but in Future Chaya’s timeline Trunks actually succeeded in driving Towa off, and Meloka was left imprisoned inside the crystallized Healing Pod forever. Future Chaya doesn’t remember ever seeing her mother, most people don’t remember things from when they were only two years old.
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>>2400644
Kinda sad frustrated that you removed the mind co trip we could’ve used berserker easier with and and use the mind control to not make us a dick in berserk
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>>2400644
Kinda sad frustrated that you removed the mind co trip we could’ve used berserker easier with and and use the mind control to not make us a dick in berserk
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>>2400843
>>2400879
>Gee Bill, how come your mom lets you make TWO posts?!
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>>2400383
I wish you didn’t have to blue-ball us every week, but at least I can catch up to DAtS quest, that’s something I can be happy about!
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>>2400879
>>2400843
I’m not entirely sure what you’re asking?
>>2400925
Kek.
>>2400986
But ending on a cliffhanger is fun. For me.
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>>2401034
Kinda sad/ frustrated that you removed the mind control we could’ve used berserker easier with and and use the mind control to not make us a dick in berserk
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>>2401490
Going Berserk will make Nefarious’ programmed commands useless, as the overwhelming rage and bloodlust will simply overpower the programmed commands. Nefarious himself alludes to this very fact before his death.
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>>2401576
Hm. Is it the effect of going mentally going berserk that would free us, or LSSJ itself though? If we mastered LSSJ, such that we could control it similarly to how we control Ascended Super Saiyan, would transforming in such a way still override the programming? Or would we still obey commands, since we're still "In control" mentally?
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>>2401702
Its the emotions overwhelming your mind.
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QM QUESTION

Two part question for you guys, the first is; Once Future Chaya explains her past, how much More pissed will Karn be at Trunks? And two, what could Towa possibly need for her to fix you?
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>>2401960
>how much More pissed will Karn be at Trunks?
We're probably gonna kill him the next time we see him. Provided he doesn't drop the bomb of his heritage on us.
>what could Towa possibly need for her to fix you?
I have no idea honestly. If it something she doesn't have already it must be kept extremely well guarded.
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>>2401960
I'd assumed it'd probably involve some timey wimey powers or some such, or her hilariously advanced magitech knowledge. Insofar as Other Chaya's past, well, I think Karn would be rather happy to rip Trunks into tiny pieces, and then incinerate those pieces with a final flash. Probably.
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>>2401967
You can try.
>spoiler
After what he’s done and tried to do, would it really matter?
>it must be kept extremely well guarded.
Or maybe just hard to keep?
>>2401970
Her knowledge will be key for this mission to succeed. And Trunks will probably learn why you don’t fuck with Karn’s family. He saw what you did to the Big Gete Star.
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>>2401960
>Once Future Chaya explains her past, how much More pissed will Karn be at Trunks?
Can Chaya do that? I imagine he'd be murderpissed, just thinking about what she had to go through after Meloka's death and later on Karn's death. The only way Trunks is gonna get out of some super saiyan 2 beatdown is by explaining his side of the story thoroughly.

>And two, what could Towa possibly need for her to fix you?
I don't know, she's a time demon so she's probably needs time demon stuff to be done. It's probably not going to be pretty though, Towa's still a ruthless demon.
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>>2402120
>After what he’s done and tried to do, would it really matter?
It depends on whether or not he explains just how he's Vegeta's son, and the circumstances behind that.
If he spills the beans about his timeline being completely different from ours, he's getting eaten by Oozaru Karn.
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>>2402147

tfw we achivve super karn 2 form sheer RAGE
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>>2401960
something having to do with brain "rewiring"? could also be magnetos helmet or gamma serum (hulk) cuz theres so much rage it overrides mind control? or giving karn a techno-organic cyber brain? (cuz he'd be part computer and could thus override the commands?)
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>>2402120
When will we do this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcp3tZ3XFyQ
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>>2402147
Of course she can. And would anyone give Trunks the time to try and explain anything?
It won’t be pretty. But it may be fun.
>>2402322
He’d have to be very persuasive.
>>2402556
Or maybe someone else gets even angrier.
>>2402849
A robobrain would be even more of a liability, and taking gamma is extremely risky.
>>2402951
Ha.
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>>2403069
desu, learning meditation/battle meditation from raven would help us control legendary better
as for counteracting the mindcontrol, maybe a memetic drug that counteracts all attempts?
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>>2403154
You know a bit of meditation and something a bit beyond that you’ve only touched on once before from the Guardian, although learning her emotional control couldn’t hurt. As for Battle Meditation, it is a much, much rarer ability to learn. No one living can teach it, at least in your timeline.
As for the mind control, you’ll see what happens.
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>>2403154
>a memetic drug that counteracts all attempts
Sounds a lot like Dragonball Abridged to me.
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>>2403217
Dammit it said that the catptcha was aborted when I tried to post so I kept attempting to post.
I hate the captcha
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>>2404020
Also why the hell is my id changing
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>>2404020
>>2404022
Are you on mobile?
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>>2404032
Yes I am
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>>2404059
There’s your answer. Its why my id changes as well.
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QM UPDATE

Unfortunately there will be no epilogue this week, I need some time off to recharge before this weekend’s thread. Also, I will not be running the weekend of April 7th/8th, as I simply have too much going on that particular weekend between a sister’s birthday and a martial arts tournament. However I’ll still be around this week to answer you guys’ questions.
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>>2404174
No worries bro, thanks for notifying in advance.
Did you see the new trailer for the 2018 Dragon Ball movie btw?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBflpbZawAY
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>>2404309
Was that mother fucking Sun Wukong?
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>>2404356
Oh fuck I didn't even catch that I thought it was another Legendary Super Saiyan or something
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>>2404405
It could possibly be yet another Saiyan with a new form, but I doubt it with all the talk of gods and angels Super’s had. And if it were a new form, I doubt Goku’d be hyping himself up like that and then launching himself at the warrior without transforming at least to a Super Saiyan.
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>>2404477
>I doubt Goku’d be hyping himself up like that and then launching himself at the warrior without transforming at least to a Super Saiyan
Doesn't Goku have this dumb practice of starting in base and slowly going through forms during his fights?
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>>2404487
He generally matches his opponent’s power to start a fight Especially one he’s excited for. Like Goku vs ‘Final Form’ Freeza in Res F, the first Caulifla fight, Goku vs Majin Vegeta, the first Goku Black fight, and dozens of others. The only fights I can think of off the top of my head where he runs through most, if not all his forms are his fight with Jiren in ep109, and his fight with Toppo in the manga.
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>>2404510
Which brings up a good question. How different will Kakarot’s life be, and how much will his outlook and personality change comparatively?
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>>2405240

did he go to earth in this timeline?
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>>2405486
Nope. At the end of the last thread he, Gine, and Raditz were all moved onto your ship. Dammit now I kinda want to write how Kakarot, Broly, and Chaya first got along.
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>>2405562

do it, also that means kakarot can be VERY diffrent due to not getting a bad case of amneisa
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>>2405562
Will we ever get pic related?
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>>2405664
The question is how much of his character was nurture and what was nature.
>>2406012
Kek
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>>2404356
If he looks similar to pic related, I like him already.
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>>2406745
Nice. I’ll say the one thing that keeps me from saying he’s a Saiyan, is those eyes.
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>>2406745
>>2407814

There's also been this image floating around.
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>>2408421
If he has the dumbass asymmetrical armor with the single pauldron that's 5 points of his rating right there.
I do appreciate the good doctor color scheme tho.
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>>2408421
Thanks, doc
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>>2408421
Well there goes my theory.
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>>2408613
What was the theory
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>>2408807
>>2408807
The Handsome Stone Monkey that grew stronger than the gods; Son Wukong, Great Sage, Equal of Heaven, Vicious Fighting Buddha.
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>>2408807
As >>2408850 said, I was kinda hype for a Wukong fight. Especially since they’ve kinda confirmed it’ll be an earth fight
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>>2409077
When will we get pic related? Also take this for future use.
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>>2409491
Appreciated. And you’ve done similar several times already.
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>>2409491

thanks doc
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QM UPDATE

Finally have the mission ready to go for this weekend’s thread! With everything now in place, all that is left is the waiting. I’ll still be around for any last questions before we start Saturday.
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>>2410653
as im new, and i havent had time to read through the archives yet, what universes are in this combined one? do u have a set number or just add them on your whim?
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>>2410689
In no complete or particular order we have encountered, seen, or had epilogues including stuff from
>Halo
>Berserk
>Destroy All Humans
>Godzilla
>Ratchet and Clank
>Outlaw Star
>DC (Tamaran, certain Batman villains, Teen Titans, etc...)
>One Punch Man
>Hunter X Hunter
>Aliens
>Predator
>Metalocalypse
>Star Wars
>Samurai Jack
>Fallout
I'm probably missing quite a few other properties that have made their way into this quest in some form, but that's what I remember off the top of my head.
It's great because we get to murder cool shit every week and we're always kept guessing as to what's gonna show up.
This is one of the few times massive crossovers and references out the ass actually work, unlike pic related.
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Goddamnit Toriyama everything besides the hair is lame.
But what do you expect for a fucking mobile game
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>>2410689
>as im new, and i havent had time to read through the archives yet
Prepare yourself for the ride anon.
>what universes are in this combined one? do u have a set number or just add them on your whim?
There’s quite a few already added, and some that I’ve written in from week 4 that haven’t been introduced yet. This guy’s list >>2410743 is pretty accurate however.
>>2410763
Wait what?
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>>2410743
>Reddit Player One
KILL IT
KILL IT NOW
THIS SHOULD NOT EVEN EXIST AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>2410743
>Metalocalypse
>Fallout
Wait, we did? When?
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>>2410779
We fought death claws pretty early on, dicked around with some guys in Fallout Power Armor IIRC, and we killed Mustakrakish the lake troll.
>>2410777
>Wait what?
New mobile game called Dragon Ball Legends, there's a new U7 saiyan designed by Akira Toriyama.
I'm starting to think "designed by Akira Toriyama" means barely above a korean intern.
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>>2410794
nah, toriyamas that trash now, he can barely even draw his own characters now. just look up what he thinks young saiyans look like now (stick figures basically). the super manga is written by toyble, a guy that did fan doujins but mimicked him so well he got a job
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>>2410794
Neat. And who knows? I will say I personally enjoy the roman style of the lower half of the U6 Saiyan armors. That torso armor just looks dumb though.
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>>2410814
Naw I know that Toyotaro does the Manga now, that's common knowledge.
I'm more talking about his general design decisions.
For example on that new Saiyan I posted, why the fuck is he wearing Spats?
And why is he nearly exposing his ass-crack to allow his tail to come out when it'd make more sense to just have a barely visible hole for it to snake through?
I dunno what I expected, Toriyama always goes on and on about his style always changing as time goes on, but this is just depressing.
Maybe I just have a nostalgia boner for all the Buu Saga, the Chrono Trigger Promo art, and everything else from that era.
Anyways, I have taken the liberty of using my plebian skills to improve the design ten-fold.
>>2410826
I actually quite like the roman armor, it's just the fucking spats I hate.
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>>2410832
cuz toriyama doesnt like/know how to draw tails anymore. thats why there's the slit and u6 saiyans dont have tails
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>>2410836
It's literally just a fucking tube with hatch marks on the outline and extra marks where appropriate to convey volume.
I think actual retards could figure that one out.
If he's gonna get paid to draw something he might as well give a shit.
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25 hours until episode 38! Hope everyone’s ready for the next mission!
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>>2411409
I wonder what we're gonna be doing that requires us to go along with Chaya?
Anything she'd have trouble fighting would push our shit in, right?
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>>2411682
Well if we berserk, we'd be roughly half her power level, if not a little under, so maybe it requires a gentle fathers touch?
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>>2411409
>going to be driving until about noon tomorrow
alright, not saying that I don't trust you guys, but if something catastrophic happens in the short time before I can join, I'll be very disappointed.
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>>2411682
She’s going along for one specific reason. And yes.
>>2411883
Kek
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>>2411892
>She’s going along for one specific reason
Is this mission her birthday present or something?
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>>2411892

this is secretly a mission to get us to get a hold of berserk, future chaya is there to beat us to our senses
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>>2412028
Possibly. Or maybe she’s going along for another reason.
>>2412039
Not quite. And even if you went Berserk she could stop you as a regular Super Saiyan.
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>>2412123

but what if we treid going Emerald Great Ape? would legendarys power genration overcome the drawback of Golden Great Ape right now?
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>>2412194
I’ll just say that that wouldn’t go well for anyone. Best-case scenario someone cuts your tail off before you can fully transform.
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>>2412304
and if we actually managed to fully transform?
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>>2412348
So I imagine it'd be an already aggressive Karn, even more aggressive than usual due to Oozaru, driven completely fucking rabid via Legendary.
I guarantee we break the planet we transform on
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>>2412351
are you including gt and super? af or multiverse? the most popular idea ive heard is that gt is an alternate universe where beerus never woke up
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>>2412348
Take the increased aggressiveness and power of the Oozaru form, and combine it with the overwheming madness and power of the Berserk form. Your power and rage wouldn’t be multiplied together, but they would instead be exponentially increased. If you managed to fully transform without exploding you would be nearly unstoppable. Fair warning though, that’s basically impossible right now. It’d be easier to Karn to go Super Saiyan 3 right now, and THEN go Golden Oozaru.
>>2412386
Beerus and Whis are already in the quest. As for GT, well Baby is out there...
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>>2412395
I'm fine with Baby I guess so long as you write him well, but you leave everything else the fuck out.
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>>2412425
what does everything else mean? blutz waves? ss4? shadow dragons? super 17? xenoverse stuff is present so....
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>>2412425
That’s my biggest problem with GT. It had so much potential. Just like the Xenoverse games now that I think on it. Baby could have been an even better saga than Buu. But they just fucked it up so bad. Same with the Shenrons. I mean seriously, decades of abusing the dragonballs summon seven evil Shenrons?! Its a talent to fuck that idea up THAT badly.
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>>2412425

well since goku doesnt go to eath, i dont think the dragon balls get abused, emaning omega shenron enver happens, 17 is never made because Gero doenst have a hateboner for goku, so i dont thing suepr 17 happens either

>>2412395
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>>2412444
I'm fine with SSJ4 honestly, but the shadow dragons are pure shite and more mishandled then Jiren's backstory.
As for Xenoverse shit, I prefer that over GT as it revels in being dumb fan-service where GT is a badly written and choreographed cash-in,
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>>2412456
They may still be. Bulma, Pilaf, and the RR army all made radars if I remember correctly. My early Dragonball is a bit rusty.
>>2412536
4 had a nice aesthetic, it genuinely feels like a transformation. GT had good concepts and art, the stories just had some really badly execution.
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honestly, rewatching the movies, super goku is a fucking disgrace. he goes from a guy with a connection with nature and regard for all life to a guy thats willing to allow entire universes to be erased just to see who's strongest
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>>2412621
I'm pretty sure Earth belongs to King Piccolo if Pilaf somehow manages to find the electric rice cooker he's trapped in.
Otherwise it might actually just be peace as usual as the RR Army might just disband once Red gets his wish.
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>>2412866
Dude, DB/Z Goku and Super Goku aren't even the same character.
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New thread here >>2413555




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