ASOIAF Reincarnation: A Male Powder Fantasy – Thread 16Character Sheet: https://pastebin.com/RsQUNkkxFuture Updates and Shitposts: https://discord.gg/H4z8wcyArchive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=powder+fantasy9th month of 289 AC, Personal Funds – 5241 Gold Dragons Armament – Pair of Flintlock pistols, an Imperial Sabre, Mastercrafted Flintlock RifleProtection – Commissar's Uniform with a Proofed Breastplate On the last thread you reached to the conclusion of the Greyjoy's Rebellion. A Short lived conflict, but still a war where you managed to prove your worth several times over. After agreeing to sell your ship with it's guns to Prince Stannis, once the war was done and with the condition that you'd also be selling him with powder, you decided to offer knighthoods to two of your officers in order to lure them to join your court.After accepting the offer to serve you as Sworn Swords once the ship is given to Stannis, you set sail to Oldtown where you immediately made your way to the Citadel to seek out the late Archmaester Ruger's will. He had apparently left you well over a hundred commonplace books from his personal study. Normally the Citadel would just sell such volumes, but being that you were in good standing with the Seneschal, he decided that such items were already in abundance at the Citadel, so there would be no harm of you receiving them according to the Archmaester's will.Whilst in the Citadel, you also decided that you needed a Maester for your coming court. A Maester that would not report your doings or be beholden to the Conclave. So, you decided to look up to your old contacts and seek for people presumed to be on the little black book where the names of Maesters in career stasis are recorded. Your contacts weren't particularily talkative about the subject, but you managed to find one man. Certain Maester Tobias, whom upon your meeting you discovered to be far less outrageous in person than the rumors would have you believe. Specializing in Astronomy, he was a nobleman from house Cotherstone which was destroyed in the Reyne-Tarbeck rebellion. From what you gathered from your meeting, he loathed the petty politicking of the Conclave and the Citadel, but didn't exactly break any rules, at least not by his telling.In the end you decided to offer him a job as a Maester in your court, an offer which he later accepted.After the fleets were done celebrating at Lannisport and caught up to you at Oldtown, you partook in a ceremony arranged by the Faith, where you swore oaths of fealty and allegiance to House Stark and where you were granted the holdings previously belonging to House Fullaxe at Bite.King Robert himself also recognized your deeds and granted you a treasure of 5000 Gold Dragons after the war as recognition of your deeds. No doubt gold liberated from the hands of the Ironborn holds.
[1/2]Right now however, you're at a victory feast held at Hightower by house Hightower. The Oceanic breeze was nice and cool and everyone was wearing their best. Thanks to the pleasant weather, the feast was being held outside. There was plenty of merriment in the air as the highborn and gentry were feasting, dancing, singing, playing games and sharing banter amongst eachother.With a girl you didn't recognize on his lap, King Robert was having a jolly old time, laughing at the japes and banter shared with his drinking buddies and downing so much alcohol, you wondered whether or not his liver had evolved beyond that of a mere mortal.Still, you weren't going to be the guy who'd tell him to stop drinking. Considering he married an incestuous harlot that's cuckolding him with his brother and seeing that his first love ended up being stolen by some emo princeling and died giving birth to a potential rapechild, well you'd say the man has earned the right to be drunk for a decade or two."It's good to be the King it seems."Your mother said as you looked at the antics of King Robert"Grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. So, what's up?""Well, your marriage is in my mind.""I should probably point out that as a Lord of my own, I've no longer the obligation to go along with such arrangements without my consent.""Heavens, that's not exactly what I was going for. I merely wanted to point out that we can help you find a decent match down south if you'd like, but I'd also like to point out that I am not sure how much help such marriages would be to you. The North is a fair bit away.""So, if I want an alliance I'm on my own?""More or less. Or you could simply seek protection of the High Lords of the region. I hear Manderlys of White Harbor are fairly big players at the region. If you had their backing, you'd be unlikely face any troubles alone."You nod"I'll think on it."After the King audibly declares that he is going to go and make room for some more wine, you're signaled by Lord Eddard Stark to come over. "I guess I should...""Yes, you should."You make your way to the table filled with laughing, drinking with the occasional singing and go attend your liege lord. "My Liege.""Lord Arthur Tallon, meet Wyman Manderly, Lord of White Harbor, Warden of the White Knife. He is one of my most Loyal Bannermen and greatest supporters of the North. I'm sure the two of you will end up seeing a lot more of each other in the future.""Pleased to meet you Lord."The Pot bellied Lord raises his cup in recognition."No need for courtesies with me boy. Come! Sit next to me and have an ale, we'll be but neighbours soon enough. We should get to know eachother better.""I think I'd like that very much."You do sit on the empty seat next to Lord Manderly and he takes a big flagon and fills it to the brim and sticks it in front of you."Chug it down. You need some hair in your chest if you wanna make it in the North."
[2/2]"So Arthur, how does it feel like to be a Lord now?""Pretty good, not gonna lie. So, Lord Wyman. You're from the Bite, you ever visited the lands I'm to receive?"His tone goes more serious"Once. When I crushed the Fullaxes during the Rebellion for trying to incite lords into turning against the Starks."You casually take as sip from your drink"So, how was it then."He closes one eye and wiggles his hand a bit"Unremarkable. People there dig their wealth from the dirt of from stone. During summers their trade slows down so they deal in herbs, but come winter they handle themselves better thanks to the peat and coal they produce.""So they primarily trade in fuel?""That's the gist of it. They mine their own Iron as well, but better quality stuff comes from barrows and from upriver. Still, they managed to build a stone castle, so they weren't completely broke."Your face turns into a grin as you imagine the idea of turning that fuel into food for steam monstrosities."Don't get too excited lad. There's still some work for you to do before you can get properly settled in there.""What do you mean?""You see, the real reason why the castle went vacant was that well... Lord Varn Fullaxe had been found guilty of black market trade with the Mountain Clans in the Vale, selling weapons and longships in exchange for their plunder. Turns out that the Valemen recognized some of the gear his men were wearing and you can guess they were none too happy about it. He demanded a trial by combat, but it went less than well for him and at Lannisport, we received a notice that his men had looted the castle of valuables and fled into the night."You put down your cup."So, basically everyone that used to run the place either fled or are dead? I need to recreate the whole court?""Consider it your first task as a Lord."Well, at least you've a Maester already so he can help you with that task."You know, normally we'd just cut off the heads of those guilty and let the daughter inherit, but the Lord Hand Jon Arryn was an ally and a friend to the Starks and the Lords of the Vale cried out for justice, which is where you came in.With such damning evidence, the titles had to be revoked and you're a man of Andal blood from a good family of knights. The Friendship between Vale and North is now restored for the time being.""So, the public order in the region likely in shambles?""Likely, but Lady Airis Fullaxe is my ward. Were you to marry her, that'd likely give you more authority in the eyes of the smallfolk and it'd tie any loose ends to your claim no doubt, but naturally it'd be me doing a favor for you, which means you'd owe me one in return. So, what do you say?">"I think I'd rather weigh my options first Lord Wyman. I will however remember your suggestion." (Maybe later)>"Tempting, but I'd meet this woman first before agreeing." (Book a marriage meeting)>"I don't think that's a very favorable match for me at the time." (Politely refuse)>Write-in
>>2536407>"I think I'd rather weigh my options first Lord Wyman. I would however like to meet the Lady." (Maybe later)Basically, lets first take stock of the situation and see if we have any other good options. Ask mother dearest and assess the political state of the region. Besides, waiting a month or two will not change anything in the long run and we need to be sure the wife we get is not an imbecile or otherwise useless.
>>2536407>"I think I'd rather weigh my options first Lord Wyman. I will however remember your suggestion." (Maybe later)
>>2536412She doesn't know anyone in the North. You're on your own on that regard.
>>2536415I meant whether she has any geniuses lined up in the south.
>>2536416Probably not. Good match to her is someone whose parents either offer a sizable dowry, a good alliance or simply are highly influential and prestigious.Personality is entirely secondary.
>>2536412We can bachelor it for a while. Get some goldflow going with our estate, and then perhaps consider a better rank of prospective wife.
>>2536407>>"I think I'd rather weigh my options first Lord Wyman. I will however remember your suggestion." (Maybe later)
>>2536407>"Tempting, but I'd meet this woman first before agreeing." (Book a marriage meeting)This isn't a confirmed marriage, this is just seeing if she's wife material.
>>2536407>"Tempting, but I'd meet this woman first before agreeing." (Book a marriage meeting)We can always decline.
>>2536407>>"I think I'd rather weigh my options first Lord Wyman. I will however remember your suggestion." (Maybe later)Best to keep our options open for now.
The way you write the dialogue for these characters comes across as very informal and does not sound like what characters in this universe would say. Is that on purpose? For the sake of brevity? I'm not saying it's bad or good. Just an observation.
>>2536592I agreeWe might as well set up some goodies. Make money rain in our land. Make the commoners love us by increasing the quality of life. And secure our lands and borders so it's safe as fuck. We should have the money for it that's for sure. And apprently we produce a lot of our own materials.
>>2536617Youd think we have money to spare but in actuality, with most improvements costing around 10 Wealth and us having 55, the money will run out rather quickly. We just have to choose the first buildings wisely and make sure we maximise profit.
>>2536688Indeed Hitlerdubs.Market, Docks, and other goldrakers are mandatory. So are a few food productions and a shop for ourselves where we can tinker during the turn wait for some techtree jumps.
>>2536407>"Tempting, but I'd meet this woman first before agreeing." (Book a marriage meeting)
>>2536407>>"Tempting, but I'd meet this woman first before agreeing." (Book a marriage meeting)
>>2536416this man plays CK2
>>"I think I'd rather weigh my options first Lord Wyman. I will however remember your suggestion." (Maybe later)
Looks like you'll be giving him a definite maybe
Hiya, glad this is still up I am just a man of bad concentration.Write in: do a backflip while shooting guns at the heir and then read comments.
>>2538042Are we from the Neutral Planet perhaps?
> Still weighing my options[1/2]"I think it's still too sudden to give a definite answer to that Question. After all, I've yet to fully explore my options. I will however keep that possibility in mind once I survey my lands.""Fair enough, but keep in mind that a claim like hers could come back to bite you or your descendants in the future.""Perhaps, but a stable claim did not stave off the misfortune which that house suffered. Nor did a stable claim keep my house from being uprooted."He shows some interest"I'm unfamiliar with your house's history. Did your family had it's Lands taken from them at some point as well?""There was some pressure towards that end until fairly recently. You see, my family's ancestral home was a small plot of land and a keep near Hightower. At some point in history, our house was given as vassals to the Tarlys and apparently Mace Tyrell had shown some interest in making sure that those Lands return to Tyrell hands."You take a swig of ale and continue"In the end they managed to get their lands back, but thanks to our family's loyalty and the contributions at the battle of Ashford, Lord Randyll had our backs. My Father was offered the seat of Copperhall in exchange for Knight's refuge and then Tarlys made the Tyrells pay a hefty price for the plot of land we had developed and cultivated across the years."He smiles at that story"So you escaped the fate of being dispossessed by earning glories in war and staying true to your liege. Our house was not so fortunate. We had our titles to the Mouth of the Mander revoked through trickery and deceit, but thankfully the wolves took us in. You will find the North a fair bit more wild and honest than the south, I'm sure."You smile at him"Well, I sure hope so. I'm not much for mind games, word plays or petty politicking truth be told, but thankfully I have other talents.""Like shipbuilding?""Amongst other things, though I have only designed one ship so far, but personally I think it turned out pretty well.""Interested in selling it?""I would if I hadn't already sold it to the Prince.""Ah, figures. Listen, we should talk again come the Victory feast in the North.""Sure, who is hosting the event?""Cannot say right now, but it's likely either me, Starks, Flints, Boltons or Karstarks. We'll discuss those matters as we make way back to the North. For now, we drink and celebrate! To Victory!""To Victory"You kept drinking and playing around with the nobility until nightfall. It was good honest carousing. Everyone smelled like drink and was being loud andobnoxious, including you. Overall you had a pretty good time.No wonder Robert liked war if this is what followed.Come morning, most of your crew as in a severe case of hangover from the festivities in the town. There would be in no condition to work today. Stench of yesterday's half digested meals filled your nostrils as you watched some womenfolk try and mop the yesterday's vomit stains off the pavement.
[2/2]You thought to yourself: 'Good thing that ain't my job' as you trodded off looking to get something greasy to eat from one of the nearby vendors. They really should have fish and chips stands, but luckily sausage buns, aka Hot Dogs were a thing. Perfect after party breakfast.As you munched on the unhealthy snack, you considered on your future courses of action. You need some plebs to run your shit for you. You already got a couple of Black Powder "Experts" and a Maester. There were still some other roles to fill. Master-of-hounds would be good for tracking down criminals and keeping security in the castle.Master-of-horse is pretty much a necessity for keeping Cavalry around.Master-at-arms is for teaching people at more traditional forms of combat. Master-of-hunt helps keep meat on table and handles pest-control, such as feral bears or wolvesSteward minds the accounting and suchCastellan handles the defense of the castle when you're goneYou've lot of jobs to fill and not a whole lot of people to do it. Perhaps it's better to just go with Crusader Kings 2 route and focus on the essentials. Chancellor, Spymaster, Marshal, Steward and a Court Chaplain is basically the bare minimum. The Honorary titles are nice and all, but you could maybe toss those around a bit later.Question is how do you plan to fill those vacancies? > We're passing by King's Landing aren't we? Could offer Ser Hector a job. (what sort of role?) > Maybe send couriers to different regions, letting them know you're offering jobs? > Perhaps I could make an announcement at the feast. There's bound to be some extra sons looking for work. > Write-in what?
>>2540795>We're passing by King's Landing aren't we? Could offer Ser Hector a job. (Marshal)>Perhaps I could make an announcement at the feast. There's bound to be some extra sons looking for work.
>>2540795We're already pretty much outsiders, might be good to draw from northerners for particular roles.Spymaster and Chancellor, for instance, should defintiely already be familiar with the north, our lands, and immediate neighbors.We could probably see if Ser Hector wants a Master at Arms/Marshal job. Or, hell, maybe ask if our Brother might come and take Samwell (with Lord Tarly's blessing) to the North with us. We could joke that it's slightly less extreme than sending him to the wall, and plant that seed in his head.
>>2540795>We're passing by King's Landing aren't we? Could offer Ser Hector a job. (what sort of role?)> Maybe send couriers to different regions, letting them know you're offering jobs?> Perhaps I could make an announcement at the feast. There's bound to be some extra sons looking for work.Get Hector as a castellan/master at arms since we will be spending most of our time at the castle he can focus on training the men and city guard. Send letters to the more prominent northern holds close to us to attract local experts at hunting and hounds, a letter to mother to try and pin down a steward (maybe think of a trader? who?). Ask at the feast for anyone interested in a job that does not require local knowledge (like hunting).The most important one is a Steward who is reasonably loyal, doesnt tell everybody about our secrets and dealings and can reasonably manage our lands. We can have our Maester handle the more discrete transactions (gunpowder, for example) but for everyday wheat and such we need a man we can rely on.
>>2540795> We're passing by King's Landing aren't we? Could offer Ser Hector a job. (what sort of role?)> Perhaps I could make an announcement at the feast. There's bound to be some extra sons looking for work.
>>2540815Our brother will never come to live with us, he is the heir and I doubt Fatwell will be allowed to join us either, since only heir and all (for now). As to utilizing locals for local knowledge, definitely. Though Im not sure who we could use as a Spymaster. Since stranger, little trust, very delicate matters and so on. Maybe this should be a person we take with us from the south or have our Maester deal with.
>>2540824I almost wonder if we might have someone from our merchant trader guild days we might be able to call on for that.
>>2540831Oh yeah, they'd definitely say no. But I would take sick pleasure in us being tangentally responsible for having him sent to the wall later.
>>2540795Ser Hector would make a decent master of horse/master at arms
>>2540832While basically ok, I fear theyd take too big of a cut. So unless they invest themselves and we think of a way to keep them out of our business (since theyd very much like to know the gunpowder recipe) I say leave them be. Better hire a local down-on-his-luck trader who is being bullied out or somesuch.>>2540834I dont want Lardy shooting himself on our tab. Would be pretty shitty for the family back home.
>>2540853>>2540834Honestly I feel pretty bad for the dude. I completely agree that getting rid of him and having his brother be heir was the right call. Sam is smart but he'd be weak as a leader and his house is meant to move armies, born in the wrong house unfortunately. Still, he'd have made a good maester and he's a decent guy all around. I'd push to actually help the kid instead of sending him to the wall, if not for his potential claim to his old house if he didn't take the black. We could try building him up, but we've got no time for that, especially when we're moving up north. Even ignoring the morality of it, it still feels like a waste of talent but you can't help everyone. On that note, I find it kind of funny how the Lord Tarley has a lot of respect for us considering we had sort of the same issues, if way less severe, with our own dad. A smart kid that got forced on the knight route and still ends up a quasi-maester anyway despite our father's disapproval. Then again it worked out way better for us, especially since Arthur makes a pretty decent knight all things considered.
>>2540851Yes, wasn't he famed for his horsemanship in particular?If he wants the job of Master of Horses we should snap him up.
>>2540884I think it's more the matter of roles in medieval esque society.As a second son, we've not the same expectations. Even still, we are technically doing everything asked of us, being a knight, fighting battles for our lords, etc. We're just doing other things too.Sam is just mush. He has no motivation or love in his life worth fighting for, and he won't have it until he goes north and finds something worth improving himself for.
>>2540884...although.The idea of turning the great neckbeard of Westeros into /k/ incarnate powder knight might just be possible. I mean, if he hates blood, what better than killing your enemy from a distance? The mechanical and chemical aspect might appeal to his nature, more so than swords and boards.
>>2540942Nah senpai, he will piss himself when the weapon fires and have a panic attack at the kickback and smoke.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkt1vAX0MRM
Have we considered the possibility of seeking out learned Westerosi slaves and liberating them to serve under us? It may be expensive, but we should have great loyalty from them.
>>2540795>> We're passing by King's Landing aren't we? Could offer Ser Hector a job. (Master-Of-Horse?)> Write-in what?Offer to have our brother come north to serve as Court Chaplain.> Perhaps I could make an announcement at the feast. There's bound to be some extra sons looking for work.
>>2541133A dumb question for me to bring up but what's stopping them from betraying us outside of the mere fact of gratitude?
>>2541203At best it would be hard for them to find a new job. But if we get them wives and kids then they have something to lose in the event they think about turning on us.
>>2541239A fair enough assessment I suppose. Though we should always be prepared for a assassination attempt on our lives at some point.
yeah hectors a great grab for master at arms if he wishes.Master of the hunt we can grab in the north its a job with a bounty of applicants up there.i dont think master of horse is a priority right now as keeping horses in the north is going to be difficult in our current lands in the state they are in.An additional priority would be chancellor judging by our current lack of knowledge about the north.Court chaplain just seems like a religious fuckfest in the north and probably something we dont need until we get a good feel for our lands.
>>2540795We should really try to sell Randyll Tarly on the idea of making Sam a Maester. Still lets his second son inherit, much closer to fitting his personality and allows him to see his family. It’s also likely we have raised the value of maesters in his mind at least a little bit. I also have a crazy idea for master of hounds/arms. Sandor Clegane, one of a very small number of people who hate the Mountain more than we do. Promise him support in his feud.
>>2540795>> Maybe send couriers to different regions, letting them know you're offering jobs?>> Perhaps I could make an announcement at the feast. There's bound to be some extra sons looking for work.>> Look specifically for Northerners with ranger-esque skills. In the idea that they may lead to Ski Infantry.Ski soldiers were pretty badass, not to mention that ski's are a good way to move around in a place as snowed as the North.
>>2542195Not during summer.
>>2543196Summer snows are definitely a thing.
Looks like you're trying to grab Ser Hector. Give me a 3d6 persuasion roll to see if you can convince him to abandon his cushy life at the capital to come and live in the North.
>>2543236Which melt by next day
Rolled 2, 3, 6 = 11 (3d6)>>2543242Ya see...it's the whole thing up north man.You gotta fucking see it.
Rolled 2, 1, 3 = 6 (3d6)>>2543242
Rolled 1, 3, 2 = 6 (3d6)>>2543242got this
Let it be known that I tried.Not that it helped much, but I did.
>>2541850Very unlikely, considering Randyll is all about martial strenght and letting Sam grow fat in the citadel is the exact opposite of that.Never ever going to happen.>>2541835We need Master of Horse for the Outriders and norsemen do have horses. Even the NW has horses so no real problem for us.
Rolled 5, 5, 3 = 13 (3d6)>>2543242Sigmar bless these ravaged dice!
>>2543293Where were you?
>>2543304Asleep. Though I personally blame our shit people skillz and hope we can solve the problem with Money ™.
Rolled 6, 6, 3 = 15 (3d6)>>2543242
>>2543321fuck, thats nice
>>2543325>>2543327redemption for the win
>>2543410Cept its just a moral victory since Bo3.
>>2543426More like btfo
What sort of wifey should we be looking for? I personally am partial for a vale girl from a family that has a claim on the southern coast region.
>>2543513Of the bite that is
>>2543513Any woman who's can get us closer to lands we want.All for noble purposes of course.
>>2543513to be honest we need to look for a wife that can get us shit.a northern house would be a good bet but theres not much we don't have in our own lands. of course we need to actually find an eligible wife so any lofty ambitions are dashed from the start.A few things we dont have on our lands are good wood for shipbuilding and a strong craftsmen presence which we could get from white harbour and its mercantile guild.Or we could go insane and try to marry a Forrester or whitehill.
>>2543529Is there even a Forrester woman around our age?
Daughter of a magister perhaps? Or a female relative?
>>2543531http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Mira_ForresterIronwood for the great armada
>>2543534she'd be around 5 at the moment though
>>2543531If it bleeds, it breeds
>>2543529We have good wood (great by southern standards) and we really only lack finances and skilled men right now. Though I worry a bit about the Fullaxe girl being a problem down the road, otherwise marry a little darling whos daddy got dough.
>>2543557Are you insinuating our goal is to lose our virginity before the age of 100 and thus give up fabulous magic powers with it? Next you tell me we need to care for the wife as well..
>>2543566 we've already got double wizard powers and we are almost to Triple we don't need 3+ special
>>2543748Ah, but are talking Mage vs Archwizard here.
>Offer Hector a Jerb>11 Not this time boiAfter the fleet reached the Capital, more celebrations ensued, this time on a much grander scale. Most likely by the order of King Robert. No doubt he'd refuse to be outdone by Reachmen in victory celebrations.As your ship made dock, the men readied their minds, bodies and souls for another hangover as they drank and ate like there was no tomorrow, enjoying the adulation for being war heroes.You decided to make way to Ser Hector's place and offer him a job as your Master-of-horse."I'm honored that you're asking, truly. But, I've got a good life here. Even if I don't get invited to parties of the high society anymore, I've friends here! I've a good house with a great view in the Largest City in Westeros, the food is good, the drink is good and the women! Oh, the women!""I see you've been properly urbanized.""Look, it's not that I don't miss it all, it's just, you know. It's the North! The Food in there is bad, the drink is bitter, winters are harsh and the horses are slow. Besides the prestige of being the master-of-horse aside, it's a bit shameful for me to be outranked by my squire you know?""So, it's a no then?""Sorry, I like you and everything, I'm proud that you were squired by me and all, but I can't just abandon everything I've got going here."You sigh"Fine, I'll look for someone else.""I'm sure there's plenty of people who'd jump at chance, just, you know...""It's fine. Enjoy your life down in the capital then I guess."Yea, apparently that's not going to work. Well, I guess there's still the feast and if that won't work, I could order Tobias to send some courier when I'm out feasting. For now however, there's nothing much to do but to make an appeal and ask whomever's going to host the damn thing to allow you to make an announcement of your own.Shouldn't be too much problems, but if Reach is anything to go by, people tend to want something small in return for these sort of petty favors. Often it's something like taking someone to be trained as squire or a page or at times something as bold as requesting a honorary position to one of their sons or something along those lines.Results from such a thing would be all but guaranteed, but at the same time there's a question of what are you exactly willing to part with in order to make such a thing happen? >Gift of a Compass should be enough for such a small favor.>Perhaps a firearm? It would certainly be exotic enough to get this done.>Alternatively you could put time into crafting something more common item into a masterpiece with your forge... Question is what?>Actually, I changed my mind. I'll just rely on the couriers.>Something else: Write-in
Rolled 2 (1d2)Actually fuck it. Since you can just wait till they reach the conclusion, no point in keeping up the suspense.Here's where the official victory feast will be held.1. White Harbor2. Winterfell
>>2544083>Alternatively you could put time into crafting something more common item into a masterpiece with your forge... Question is whatYou can never go wrong with a masterwork sword.
>>2544095Sure, make a fancy sword with some flourish. Just have to make sure this speech is worth it.
>>2544083>>Perhaps a firearm? It would certainly be exotic enough to get this done.Give them 200 shot and call it a day.Time spent forgeing is better spent finding folks to hire.
>>2544095Considering we banged out a pretty good breastplate when we were 10 i think we should go down that route.
>>2544083>Perhaps a firearm? It would certainly be exotic enough to get this done.
So yea, seems that Starks are hosting it then.
>>2544182I wonder what theon is going to say about us.
>>2544210isn't he an anklebiter at the moment? We're probably like his bogeyman
>>2544222from my guess hes 7 or 8.same age as jon is.
>>2544222>"Now Theon if you don't eat your legumes, the Tallon will get you with his thunder clubs!">Theon proceeds to devour his legumes.>"Hand Maiden!... the Tallon isn't real is he?">"No young master, of course not...">At night though, he hears thunder in the distance, and pisses his pants in fear till he's 13.There needs to be a nursery rhyme about us and our ship on the Iron Islands.
>>2544095Supporting. A really nice sword should do the job.
>>2544083>Alternatively you could put time into crafting something more common item into a masterpiece with your forge... Question is what?How about a sword?
>>2544210Not much likely.Ultimately he was young enough to be kept pretty far from the battles and you didn't personally partake in the siege of Pyke so he didn't have much chance to hear to sound of guns.There's some rumors about you killing with sorcerous thunder as there's rumors with Thoros with his blade of fire. Difference is that lot of people know that Thoros' trick is coating his blade with Wildfire and whilst several people think yours is likely an alchemical trick as well, nobody really knows how you do yours save that it involves fire, black powder and a strange tube-like contraptions.
Though to your credit when you opened fire on Lordsport with cannons, all the horses and many other animals too started to freak out, which did give an aura of unnatural mystique to your ship in the eyes of the smallfolk at the Iron Islands at least.Whilst the highborn aren't easily freaked by such displays, there's still a certain sense of "What if it was sorcery?" about the whole thing. They did also notice that fighting against such weapons did leave wounds that couldn't be healed if you got hit, which did sorta help add to the whole dread of the tools among the more simple minded.
>>2544424We need to hire some bards to tell our prowess ( like the flying duchman) was for us , a invincible ship that sailor dropped to ther knees when the heard our guns ( basically spooky stories with a song for the smallfolk)
What do we wanna call our domain? I suggest Albion
>>2546356I think it already has a name.
>>2546425You sure you wanna keep calling your castle the Fullaxe keep and your lands Fullaxe lands?
>>2546498I still vote for Nuln. Gunnery school and cannon production all the way.
>>2543513Asha GreyjoyDacey MormontAyenna
>>2546525nuln does sound good as we are basically warhammer cosplayers already
Guys, Ill one-up you here:Since we are living in The Bite and in the back end of the bay, because we will be consuming resources of the land like crazy as soon as we set up and because it is also a port in WH."Port Maw"
>>2544083Voting for a pistol
>>2546643That should be the castle.Nuln should be our realm
>>2543513Denarys she will have dragons think how badass we could have combined arms in medieval times dragon air support, infantry with artillery batteries and naval bombardments.
>>2546697Dragon a shit when we are talking about artillery and naval guns. Kill any skyrat with a bit of planning with those things. Just like anything else on the ground.
>>2546697Shes also used goods and already married you idiot. not to mention shes half a world away
>Alternatively you could put time into crafting something more common item into a masterpiece with your forge... Question is what?We could go with a sword. I personally would prefer a armour set, but fuck it let's try our hand at some honest to god smithing and show our chops.If the smith rolls are shit and we do not like the result we can give a firearm and have a backup.
>>2546643I'd vote for that. Battlefleet gothic was great and this is actually quite clever. I this gets more traction then nuln I'll vote for port maw.>>2546697If we ever get armstrong guns or any precision artillery dragons will get shit on. Just aim for the head, and punch a hole through it.
I guess you're making a sword then.Give me a 1d100 and a description of what sort of sword you wanna try and make.
Rolled 21 (1d100)>>2547067Wolf-themed handle, carbon pattern blade (I assume we can do damascus?) and a decent scabbard. Basically a good fighting sword with some flourish.
>>2547080You're still not telling me what type of sword.Shortsword? Sabre? Arming Sword? Katana? What?
Rolled 69 (1d100)>>2547080>>2547098A longsword. The historical 2 handed type, not the designation in the asoif system.
Rolled 59 (1d100)>>2547067Let's try and make a good one. The very best.
Rolled 88 (1d100)>>2547067Ōdachi engraved with tigers.
>>2547148this, the power of our weeb might will blot out the sun
>>2547198Crouching Slav, Hidden Weeb?
>>2547148>>2547205Pol thought we WHFB.But no. We L5R nao!
>>2547274Why not both?
>>2547148Finest blade from across the sunset sea
>>2547434 wasn't there a weeb faction in fantasy battle at least in the lore
>>2546498Oh, right.Yeah, we should probably change that, then.I support >>2546525
Rolled 31 (1d100)>>2547067A huge hunk of metal too big to be called a sword claymore
>>2547098how about a kilij?
Mall Ninja>>2547148>>2547198>>2547205>>2547745Vanilla for his ice>>2547106Michaelcthulhu>>2548534Sarranid>>2548881
psssh... nothin personnel... kid...
> Mall ninja[1/2]You're on a schedule here. As Decreed by the High Septon, there's gonna be a week of partying here, one that Robert will most likely insist that Ned will partake in, so you have until then to get the blade in order. You decided to go with something a bit more exotic, an Odachi greatsword. If nothing else, you hope the novelty value is enough to convince him to go along with it. There wasn't much time for engravings, so decorations had to be minimalistic, luckily though, since there was partying all around, you had no problems renting a forge for your own use for the time. > Lost 3 Gold Dragons on expensesHowever, there were certain problems. You had to pay a bit of extra for materials as it was technically their rest day, as well as for the use of apprentices for filing and such. > Rolled 69Despite financial difficulties, the work did end up going smoothly and you did meet the deadline. The End result was an a two-handed blade with a very long handle and very clean finish.The Lacquer had to be bought as a volantenese import, but overall it was well worth it for the scabbard. Engraved Copper would have to suffice for ornamentation this time as you didn't have the time to engrave the blade itself. You're not too sure how well the differential tempering went, but time will tell. Overall it's still a beautifully made sword. You at least hope that the wolf lord will appreciate it for it's looks if nothing else. It was a cumbersome thing and fairly top heavy, but it cut very well, of course, that's the sole purpose of this sword and what it's optimized to do. Folded six millions times into origami swans under a cherry blossom tree, one million folds for each jewish soul taken in the shoah. Truly a formidable weapon to serve in the Ether Astral War to cleanse the spiritual plane of the taint of the Judaya.Samurai are the complete opposite of the Jew. This is surely why Jews fear the Samurai you thought to yourself as you slid the blade into a scabbard after cleaning and oiling it."Psssht! Nothing personnel kids." You said to the menials you had hired to forge the blade as you made your way back to your ship."Y-you too..." they stuttered as you swaggered out of the shop with your oversized katana whilst the wind gently vibrating your stiff, greasy like the alpha male that you were. You'd have tipped your fedora for them, but they weren't worthy of such an honor from a supreme gentleman like yourself. Also you didn't have a fedora. Had it not been for the laws of this land you'd have slaughtered them for such a meek response.
[2/2]You had wasted no time presenting your craftsmanship to your liege."Interesting cratftsmanship. Is it Made in Essos?""No, Lord Stark I made it myself. I was hoping to request your assistance on the matter of rebuilding the court.If you'd speak out during the feast and let people know I've vacancies, it would help me a great deal."He sheathes the blade"What you ask is fair enough. I thank you for your generous gift.I shall present you to the Lords at the feast and I'll mention of your circumstances. I expect the rest shall take care of itself.""Thank you, that is all I truly needed Lord Stark.""Now, if that was all...""Of course, you're a busy man."And so, you headed North with the Arryn fleet, stopping only at Gulltown for supplies as the two fleets parted ways and then finally heading to the the White Harbor. You could see why they'd call it that. Nearly every single building was white washed with what you guess is lime-chalk and the roofs were dark grey slate in a steep angle to no doubt keep the snows from collapsing them during the winter.The Scent of the city was sharp, salty and a bit fishy and not without reason. On your way to the White Harbor, you noticed no small number of fishing boats scouring the bite and a few whaling vessels too.After reaching land you decided to issue your first real order as a Lord. You'd take a few guards to come with you as you went feasting at Winterfell whilst rest of your men led by Ser Bodrin, Ser Dan and Maester Tobias would head to your holdings, estimate the situation and act accordingly with the goal of manning the Fullaxe keep and getting it ready for your arrival.With you, you had brought some People along from reach to settle on your lands. Whilst you were out warring, your father had taken the liberty to round up some extra workers looking for a new start somewhere further away with plenty of lebensraum.Of course, this meant the unit was bit of hodgepodge, so it was entirely possible their skillset could be a bit unorthodox from regular troops. > Congratulations! You gained a [Custom unit] Trained: (60 exp)Pick 3 stats you want them to be able to learnDefault for each stat is 2Bonus dice 10 expIncrease stat 30 expAgility Animal HandlingAthleticsAwarenessCunningDeceptionEnduranceFightingHealingKnowledgeMarksmanshipPersuasionStealthSurvivalThieveryWarfareWill
>>2549354Since the first thing we need is a Garrison to make sure we actually have a castle to come back to and since musketfire from behind stone walls is pretty radical, we should go for:Marksman, Will, Awareness. Maybe switch out Will for Fighting, depending on whether a high Will means fiercely loyal troops who dont break or just wizard proofing.Say we add 1 rank in both Awareness and Marksman to start off? Or Fighting and Marksman, depending on how useful Will is.
>>2549359We should specialize since the xp is quite low. One in fighting would match better with endurance, since hand to hand fighting is more taxing than shooting guns.>>2549354Clarification on the xp;It says that they are trained and have 30 xp, but can only up 3 stats to 3. That means that each of the free stats actually cost 20 xp right? Furthermore that would imply we would have to spend 50 xp to get a stat up to 4 from 2, am I getting this right?
>>2549364They start with 60xp, my bad.
>>2549364Every human has default stats of 2, but yiu are correct on the stat cost going up with each level.Also you can't have more bonus dice than the rank of the ability.
>>2549370Right but were my numbers were right?Say we bump up their marksmanship to 4 and put a bonus dice in awareness, would that work?
No, what I mean is that each unit of troops can learn 3 separate attributes skills without a military academy.To raise an attribute from 2 to 3 costs 30 exp, To raise an attribute from 3 to 4 costs 40 exp, from 4 to 5 costs 50 and so on.Basically, if you wanted a unit of dudes who all were master marksmen, you'd need 120 exp minimum.
If you want a unit that can invest exp in marksmanship, fighting, endurance and stealth, you'd need a military academy.That's what I mean by 3 stats.
Sorry if this is complex, I'm sorta learning the rules of this game by running this quest and this is now a test of the unit upgrade portion.
>>2549377So we basically this, and buff Awareness and Marksmanship. Good shots with keen eyes. Not really meant for clubbing but the muskets are even better short range. Besides, if it ever comes to it, we can give them pistols for CQC.
>>2549354>Deception>Knowledge>StealthWe need information gatherers, not a combat unit
>>2549668I kind of like the idea of secret service/police types. We'll need to get law right with our land. However, I would probably reccomend swapping Knowledge for Fighting or Marksmanship. We can do the officer thing and make Knowledge for them. Even KGB were trained for combat.
>>2549377This, though preferably with endurance instead of will to handle winter better.
>>2549668>>2549693We literally dont have any men there. Our security consists of us and the two fresh knights. No guards, not even an angry drunk to protect our gates. We literally cant do without a garrison unit. After that? Sure, we can have 3 squads so Outriders for the dirty job of killing bandits and the SS to weasel them out.But right now? We NEED a Garrison.
>>2549746Garrison can be made with levies. Chances are there's already baseline troops there (or that we'll be able to muster easily with our rolled stats). Unless the Rad Kind would correct me, I believe thse are literally extra troops for us- not ALL our troops.
>>2549746Went back to the last thread to doublecheck. We rolled for Power and ended up with 16 after modifiers. This means our land doesn't have a lot of troops, but Green Garrison literally costs 3 points, so we could easily have one for crime deterring.I see this unit as our old man giving us a boost. As such, these guys should ether be our ringers or a specialty unit we won't be able to have on hand when we get there.
>>2549751Nah, when the last lord died and his friends looted the castle and fled into the night, the only remaining troops in the region are pretty much the town militia which is in control of the Mayor of your small town and isn't much of a military force.However if you want more special troops, you can commission them as needed, the only difference is that these gifted troops will be Reachmen and thus more loyal to you, whilst the military units you make with your power resource will be Northmen.
>>2549763But we will be able to make more troops, right? That si to say, these aren't the only ones?
>>2549768We, with our current holdings have a limit of 3 units, IIRC. So a Garrison, Outriders and 1 left over. SS would not be a bad pick but we can also build ourselves a Secret Police holding that deals with this shit and gives mechanical bonuses to us as well. It can also be upgraded to do a bit of shenanigans outside our lands.Basically, we can get the same results with other things as well but we cant get a garrison through security. Since the Outriders will be more Pride based anyway I suggest we get mega loyal castle guards as the first thing.
>>2549814It's not that you can't station them outside of your castle as well, but yea, the Small Castle can only hold a host of 3 units.
>>2549864Where could we put them? A garrison as Town Guard? Would a unit "out in the field" need a space or could we rotate? Do we need to build more shit to house 4+ or could we do some creative placement and encampment stuff?
>>2549961You could make a town garrison, sure.
>>2549961Hypothetically if you want to have more troops, you'd need to expand your base of operations or create a new one. In layman's terms this means forts, towers, keeps and the like.
>>2549814Why get any of that? Even with our technological advantage those troops all suck. Let’s just go for 2 trained ranged units and replace bows/crossbows with our muskets, and a unit of cavalry for mobility. It’s not like our musketmen can’t be on garrison duty.
>>2550032The reason I want a Garrison unit is that they get breddy good bonuses for defending. Really shit at attacking but since we are going to turtle anyway and we have both a town and castle to protect theyll come in handy. Not that I mind extra infantry and I am definitely in favour of getting Outriders but we really do need a Garrison. Especially if they are loyal Reach men.
>>2549377I will support this.
Probably should point out that Will primarily affects resistance against terror weapons and magical attacks whilst Discipline is what keeps them following orders better and allows them to reorganize if they're broken.
In case it's useful.
>>2550297But we cant buy discipline with xp. We can only train them otherwise. But thanks for the heads up.
>>2550351Will gets less useful the more a unit gets trained apparently.
If we want to make soldiers out of them, they will probably need some close combat skill too...
>>2550351Discipline comes from level of training, which can be purchased with Power.If your dudes are Elites, the DC for your warfare tests for them to follow orders starts at 0, which means that unless there are penalties involved, they autopass even if you were a mongoloid with 1 warfare score that rolls only 1's
>>2550360So guys.AwarenessMarksmanshipFightingY/N? What are the opinions and what are the alternatives. The idea here is a bunch of men who shoot straight and can see the enemy far enough to turn them into mush before they even reach the moat. Fighting for bayonett fun times when things really go to shit. Though keeping in mind we have limited XP points we probably will only level the first two to 4.
>>2549668Supporting, the enforcers of our will should be loyal Reachmen, gestapo skills are nice in case some people (i.e. Littlefinger, Veryes, faceless men, other enemies, etc.) try to infiltrate us.
>>2550419endurance maybe? for holding the line longer. thats probably quite important for a garrison as much as awareness.
>>2550539Sure, since they ideally wont go into CQC but will definitely do long shifts and need to be reliable.AwarenessMarksmanshipEndurance
>>2550629Soldiers kept going into CQC even when both sides started using modern gun in WW1, our soldiers will definitely end up in CQC since the enemy will be charging at us every time. Having musket is no guarantee that everything will be at range, I mean, we saw the consequences of having troop with crappy CQC in our first lives, total defeat.
>>2550744I am talking about dudes in a castle. In a siege, wed have more troops than a single Garrison. troops that would be trained in that, whereas the Garrison will never have to march on the field, just make sure nobody sneaks up on the castle and shoot anybody that does.
>>2550629I'd support this. I picture big Grenadir type guys who we might even be able to give hand cannons to at some point.
>>2550744we will have to rely on barricades and earthworks within the castle grounds in the event of a siege then. easy. Also we can up their fighting when we train them up to veteran and elite, so it wont be terrible.>>2549354 switching from >>2550077 to >>2550629
>>2550921Sorry I was phoneposting with this ID
>>2550925Oh shit it changed it to my PC IP? Didnt know that was possible.
>>2550927>i don't know what an IP is
>>2549353Holy fuck thanks for the laugh mate
>>2550744Hypothetically, you could at certain point construct a military academy and invest on a core training regime which makes the units better at melee if you wanted. Of course, this is very expensive
>>2549354>Awareness>Marksmanship>EnduranceCall 'em "Wilderkämpfer"?
>>2552299More likely "Guardsman of the year", since all they will be doing is standing around the castle keeping lookout so nobody [i]impregnates[/i] our castle.
>>2552301Well fuck, I guess they'd just be called "Garrison" then.
>>2552321I know. We can go the extra mile and call them the Iron Guard and beef them up in training.....still just a garrison though, granted, loyal as fuck and great shots.
>>2552321Also great pick. Seems a pretty practical approach.
At the river, a train of riverboats and longships was waiting. For a moment you wondered if you should have ordered the Swivel guns to be brought aboard as you didn't exactly have good memories from traveling by rivers.Nevertheless, only a fool would bother attacking this host in hopes of plunder as you were not exactly the only one who brought guards with them.Since you didn't have your own boat capable of fording the rivers, you had requested from Lord Manderly if you could join him on his vessel as you were more or less going the same way. He graciously had extended to you his hospitality and welcomed you aboard. At his ship, there were various other people of import as well, or at least people of import to you. Vassal lords of the Manderlys, some which were even your neighbours. There were folks of House Ewart, their Lord being one Tomas who grew flax north of you and spun them for linens. A Man around his mid-40's but easy-going fellow who seemed to be doing rather well for himself by the sounds of it.Then there was House Ashlars whose Lord Liam was apparently a "Knight of the Order of the Green Hand" along with his liege. A Bannerlord of some prominence to the Manderlys. Stern, Brash, Rugged. You know the type, a real warhorse. In his mid-30's, his wealth comes from the warhorses he breeds and weapons that he forges. His Castle stood in the middle of the space between White Harbor and Kingsroad.There was also House Hattie, which apparently was a house of huntsmen and fur traders. Apparently their seat was a woode. fort north of White Harbor in a forest where they cultivated for game and timber.And there's was also the girl Airis Fullaxe that Lord Manderly's wife decided to bring as her handmaiden.The way to Winterfell would take some time and this would be a decent opportunity to get to know some of the Lords that inhabit the same vague geographical area as you do.Question is who should you talk to? > Get to know the girl, Airis Fullaxe. If nothing else, you'd like to know more of what brought her house down. > Get to know Lord Tomas Ewart. He seems fairly well off for a minor northern lord. > Get to know Lord Liam Ashlars. He seems to be the one with the biggest military of the three. > Get to know Seamas Hattie. Hunter ought to be able to appreciate guns. > Write-in: Something else
>>2552392> Get to know the girl, Airis Fullaxe. If nothing else, you'd like to know more of what brought her house down.
>>2552392>Get to know Lord Tomas Ewart. He seems fairly well off for a minor northern lord.let's procure some flax for our future weaving industry
>>2552392>Get to know Seamas Hattie. Hunter ought to be able to appreciate guns.>2552405or wool if they got sheeps
>>2552394> Get to know the girl, Airis Fullaxe. If nothing else, you'd like to know more of what brought her house down.> Get to know Seamas Hattie. Hunter ought to be able to appreciate guns.Chat the girl, then the hunter. Girl to asses her worth and the troubles of our land and hunter to help track down the bandits in our woods. We will out-produce the warrior in iron soon anyway and buying flax is shit vs farming it yourself.
>>2552392>> Get to know the girl, Airis Fullaxe. If nothing else, you'd like to know more of what brought her house down.
>>2552392> Get to know the girl, Airis Fullaxe. If nothing else, you'd like to know more of what brought her house down.let's see what kind of stats she has
>>2552516Yeah, what *stats*.
>>2552521hey, as long as she doesn't come with a karling chin I'll take anything as long as dem stats are good
>>2552521Hopefully she has some political sway and can get us some Influence and mebby even help build a court/get rid of the bandits in our woods. If she has nice *stats* as well then all the better. It would be great if she was had good traits as well.
>>2552392Nth-ing > Get to know the girl,Also; I really like this >>2552321Design for our troops, but maybe add a bayonet to the rifle, and perhaps our new crest to the breastplate?
>>2552392> Get to know Lord Liam Ashlars. He seems to be the one with the biggest military of the three.
>>2552392I kind of wanted to use the occasion to train our Troops ‘till they puke, but I guess I will settle for this> Get to know the girl, Airis Fullaxe. If nothing else, you'd like to know more of what brought her house down.
>>2552392> Get to know the girl, Airis Fullaxe. If nothing else, you'd like to know more of what brought her house down.Lets get to know a potential foe
>>2552392>> Get to know Lord Liam Ashlars. He seems to be the one with the biggest military of the three.
> Bitches and hoes[1/2]You decided to approach the young woman, clearly still in her teens. You had reckoned that knowing what sort of shit went down in those lands is preferable to being completely oblivious and you'd like to know exactly what sort of woman was Lord Wyman trying to barter you."Lady Airis Fullaxe? Arthur Tallon, I am the newly minted Lord of your family's former holdings."As you introduce yourself she gives you a curtsy"Pleased to meet you Lord Tallon, I hope your rule will be more fortunate than that of my family's.""I was wondering if you'd have some time to talk about what exactly happened to cause your misfortunes. I've heard a bit, but I'd have your side of the story as well if you'd be willing to share it.""I wasn't there, so I can't really tell you much.""Well, if you could tell me anything, that would be helpful."She turns her back to you and watches at the passing landscape for a while before beginning her story."I was 9 years old when they took me to White Harbor as a Ward of Lord Wyman Manderly after my Father chose the wrong side in Robert's Rebellion. Ever since I've had little contact with my brothers as they never were not much for writing letters. Few years from there my eldest brother was taken by fever and then my brother Varn took over.He was fiercely proud of our heritage and all but disowned me when he heard I had embraced the new gods and the southern ways.Months ago I had heard the news that my brother had been found guilty of smuggling arms, armor and ships to the clans of the Vale and that his titles were revoked by Lord Eddard Stark after he failed his trial, but you surely knew of that more than I.""I'd like to hear what's your personal take on this situation.""Yes, I believe it was possible that my brother was guilty of what he was accused of. There were debts that needed to be paid and he might have taken that path out of spite. He likely saw my conversion as an insult to him and our ancestors. However the looting of our castle, that came as a surprise. My brother would have never approved of it despite our differences.""Right. Do you have hard feelings for me taking your lands? I'd like to know where we stand exactly."She pauses for a moment and replies"I understand why it had to be done. Naturally I am not happy about it, who would be? But far more I lament the loss of my family than that our lands. In the North land is cheap, but family is precious.""My condolences.""It's fine, this discussion was something I expected to happen sooner or later and after all things could be worse. Lord Wyman has been taking care of me like I were his daughter and White Harbor is more eloquent than my father's poor little coaling town."
[2/2]"You seem to be taking all this in rather well. You don't miss your home?""Sometimes, but whatever memories that lingered there have likely been desecrated by what has happened there. Our heirlooms stolen, servants and friends killed...""Had you been there, things would have been far worse no doubt."She nods"You are a Knight are you not, Ser Arthur.""I am. of sorts.""Bards often sing of tales of Reach, a land of chivalry where Knights go to Quests for their ladies to prove their valour. I understand I've no right to ask you of this, but I'd be grateful if you'd find it in your heart to hunt down those men and slay them." > "If I get on their trail, I will hunt them down my Lady." > "I'll make no promises, but should they remain in my, I'll be sure to slay them." > "I am uncertain whether or not I can promise such a thing. I've limited resources and the trail has likely ran cold." > Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailer > Write-in
>>2553182> "I'll make no promises, but should they remain in my, I'll be sure to slay them."Looters and thieves are the scum of the Earth. Second only to Savages in their treachery.
>>2553182> Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailerFor the lady!
>>2553182>> Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailerSound the Clarions Call!
>>2553182>Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailerHonor is all! Chivalry is all!
>>2553182>> "I'll make no promises, but should they remain in my, I'll be sure to slay them."
>>2553182>> Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailerI fucking love this quest
>>2553182>Total War Brettonia.
>>2553182> Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailerAlways. ALWAYS. Go full chivalry.
>>2553174>>2553182> Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailer
>>2553182>> Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailerDoes this mean our farms will implode if we raise some archers
>>2553182>> Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailer
>>2553174>That pic >she's in her teensHnnnnng I would have taken her wife here and then.>>2553182I had to look it up first but>cue the trailer
>>2553182>> "I'll make no promises, but should they remain in my, I'll be sure to slay them."I think you accidently a noun there, Rad, but I get the gist.
>>2553805It's because I don't proofread shit
>>2553888I kind of guessed that when Lady Fullaxe told us about her were 'never not much for writing letters' and how 'eloquent' Whiteharobur was.
>>2554066*how her brothersgod dammit; every single time I point out someone else's grammar and/or spelling, without fail I make a stupid mistake of my own!
>>2554066 I just assumed that this was Westeros version of the Appalachians and she's some kind of hillbilly Noble. If you give her a blunderbuss and a jug of high-quality moonshine she will be your best friend forever
>>2553182>Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailer
>>2554152So what you're saying is we need to invent pump action shotguns at some point.
>>2554568>invent pump shotguns>single squad of Tallon knights clear an entire castle>Robert orders a 10 gauge when he hears about the incident
>>2554622You are now imagining us with a SAIGA 12 on horse back mowing down enemy soldiers.
>>2554152Sadly, you can't really go around in a pair of Daisy Dukes in the snowy north.
>>2554767>telling me I can't run around half naked in the snowFUCK YOU WE'RE GONNA BRING FINLAND TO WESTEROS GODDAMNIT
>>2553527Keep it in your pants. This is not about thots.This is about Chivalry!
>>2553182> Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailerChivalry! Now Those are the real knight, not like the guys in the south :P
I'm fine with chivalry, but let's not marry this broad.
>>2555490 I could go either way on her needs more screen time before we put a ring on it and have all of our friends strip her naked before we start fucking her in the spare room
>>2555493 this image irritates me now that I realize she's wearing a bra. The corset on the outside of the shirt was irritating but I could handle it wearing both a corset and a bra plus the modifier of corset on the outside is just too much for me. That's not how underwear works damn it!
>>2555490>>2555493Yop, well see how she is. If it is advantageous to hitch up we should do it but this should be a business decision.
>>2553182>Cue Total War Warhammer Bretonnia dlc trailerMight be good for getting a hand at ground commandI'd support marriage for political and law gains. S-she also looks... nice
>>2555624There are almost no gains to be made from marrying her. Save our potential marriage alliance for someone with actual wealth, power and influence, or dragons.
>>2556347See, while she has little wealth attached, she *may* have some political pull with the locals. Depending on what she can do and who else we can snag she may not be a bad option. Especially since she seems at least somewhat court savvy with her speech manner. May be our diplomat. If she is shit though we get some other wench.And no, its not Dany.
>>2556598There are only four points to get Danny. Three dragon eggs when crashing the wedding and killing large Dothraki. Broodmare for magical bloodline as confirmed fire/heat resistance/immunity magitech gene carrier.That is it. They are good points of course, but not something that you want in any skill based position.
>>2557061The thing is that while we can steal the eggs and horses, having Dany in our lands means Rob will find out sooner or later and then well be in the shit.Not that I mind fucking around with dragons or blood magic but we are so noob at this stuff, lack a dragonrider bloodline to make the buggers obey and are so small we cant throw around any weight in case of fubar that it is just not feasible right now. Stealing the eggs would be nice though.
>>2559359Have some covert ops and safe houses in essos. Stuff her there.She is probably a requirement of the hatching procces, plus the comet and three sacrifices of personal worth to her (Drogo, her kid, the witch- replace with Viserys, Cheesemonger and someone else)Fucking about to get the dragons is imho worth it. We get to respawn and try again, but the flying firebreathing lizards are the closest thing we will get to effective close air support. Biological attack helicopter equivalents in essence.And once Bobby B is dead and we assassinate fake Aegon via a sniper, we hold the cards to a targ restoration, making Varys predisposed to work with us after trying a few shenanigans, especially if we get a male child with her to seem we are personally willing to back such a play to mortals.Not perfect but we get multiple attempts anyway, and exploring the essos parts is worth it for the dividends it can pay off, even with the risks.
>>2559680Id agree if we had enough knowledge of the arcane. As it stands, we are prolly gonna face some pretty bad obstacles and fail with the plant.As to CAS, imagine a biplane that does machinegun runs along the enemy lines and a bomber dropping incendiary. A lot more reliable than dragons and far less likely to get us in the shit with the rest of rebel westeros.Maybe at some later reincarnation when we hold enough arcane know-how to pull this sort of shit off on our own. As it stands we basically know jack shit.
It's easier to make a biplane armed with a machine gun and dive bombs than it is to get the Dragons to hatch.Dragon eggs might be rare, but there are some around and everyone who has ever handled one had the same idea. "I wanna hatch some dragons." and this is including Targ attempts at doing so. If all it took was fire and blood, then Summerhall would have been a resounding success.
>>2559697They did not pull a sacrifice lives of significant personal worth, after amajor celestial event.Astronomer dude can get us the best time for it, and we need three persons of considerable worth to Danny that she would then willingly sacrifice (that is going to be the major bitch in getting done)As we know her fire resistance is on before the wedding.And of course some necessary dragon lore/higher mysteries.Plus, I would rather futz about with the eggs on our own timetable than let them hatch under poor tutelage and inept command that will see them dead and any biplane we make absolutely mangled by the flying fire critters.
>>2559706They had vast amounts of dragonlore, wildfire, sorcery was involved and the ritual ended up killing King Aegon V, Prince Duncan, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard and many, many more. I'd say that the sacrifices were a plenty, but the ritual was nevertheless still a failure. Also, the whole deal with Rhaegar thinking himself primce who was promised would imply the ritual was conducted under a "bleeding star", implying some astronomical phenomenon.Basically, it's a crapshoot with high stakes
>>2559706Id like to see the dragon that can tank a 100mm AA round and as QM said >>2559714 hard as balls and unlikely to work, whereas we could make steam engine biplanes in a pinch.
>>2559720Balerion might, but that thing was over 100 years old when Aegon came to Westeros.
Though even Balerion would have a bad day if you scored a direct hit with 100mm AA gun.
>>2559760Slow moving huge target. I think well be fine. He wouldnt even reach the gun battery without some heavy clouds.
Dragons are fleeting. We should focus on things with more permanence, such as hiring highly skilled men to tutor us so when we inevitably die, we can do all sorts of cool shit as a kid
Alright then roll for acting. This is your deception. Let's see how hard you tip your fedora.Roll 3d6
Rolled 4, 6, 6 = 16 (3d6)>>2563019
Rolled 4, 6, 5 = 15 (3d6)>>2563019
Rolled 3, 6, 3 = 12 (3d6)>>2563019
>>2563023Not bad. I take it this means she's impressed by all the My Little Pony patches sewn onto our trench coat, and our cool t-shirt with the three wolves on it?
> Disregard peasants, acquire chivalry[1/2]Those fellows are already in your shit list as is for being criminals. Hunting them down and getting rid of them is something you reckon that you ought to do as Lord at some point.Besides, letting shirtless looters roam the countryside attracts entry-level mount and blade protagonists. It is known. Needless to say, it's time for Chivalry.Shame that you don't exactly have a suit of shining armor since the Commissar outfit sort of clashes with the whole image of a knight. > 16 breddy goodhttps://youtu.be/60WQUG3XW3MYou look into her eyes"No plea for help shall find me wanting. No obstacle will stand before me.""No evil will taint the lands bequeathed unto me.""When the clarion call is sounded, I will ride out and fight in the name of Liege and Lady.""That which is sacrament, I shall preserve.""That which is sublime, I will protect.""That which threatens, I will destroy, for my holy wrath will know no bounds.""Honor is all.""Chivalry is all.""Rejoice, for we, the Knights of Tallon will be your shield."She looks at you for a moment as if wondering if you're for real or not and then merely says "Thank you. Ser Arthur."You give her a bow and tip your fedora like the supreme gentleman you are as your greasy hair majestically flops in the wind and your My Little Pony accessories sparkle in the sunlight. You finish off the performance with as deep "M'lady" as your nasal cavities can produce.Yes, you truly have learned from your peers, safely securing the spaghetti in your pockets with a clever application of two-sided duct tape and disguising potential boners by sticking a tampon in your asshole and tying the string to your foreskin to prevent your masculine urges from threathening her and the thick coating of perfume in your armpits helps mask your sweat, helping to put her at ease for smelling one of her own. Truly, you are the epitome of chivalrous conduct.The Rest of the journey continued with little to no incident. You continued milking the woman of information on her former home, what little she had from since she was warded. You learned that the town was largely managed by one Mayor Tarner and you learned that the region was sort of tilting towards the neck, which causes water and aquifers to create streams which flow to the swamps further south.She also told you of her family's founding. Story of a man who fought naked in the swamps during the Andal invasion to show his bravery. Eventually he managed to gather a warband around him and would later be granted a hill to settle on. After Aegon's conquest, the house had partaken in every Dornish war for the Targaryens and apparently done relatively well and earned rewards of gold and silver each time they fought, save the last time. Historically eager for fighting, but more often than not on the losing side, but still earning glories of war.
[2/2]Upon arriving at Winterfell, you were all welcomed with a great feast. It was noticably cooler this far North, but from your opinion it was nowhere near as bad as they made it appear in the show. You could tell it wad summer and a man could well enough handle himself with the same sort of clothes that you'd wear at sea. Sure, you might not want to necessarily sleep under bridges on this climate, but everywhere with shadow was nice and cool, whilst the sun was pleasantly warm.When your liege saw his wife, he immediately unsaddled and joined her. As he does, Lady Airis whispers to you. "She was pregnant when he left." Oh, right. Arya was born around this time."Lord Wyman! 100 Gold says it's a girl. You in?""And end up like the Whents? Hah! I think not.""What happened with the Whents?" Airis asks"You've heard of the Tourney of Harrenhal and the moment when all smiles died? Well, Lord Tallon was there and he was the only one left smiling at that moment. Why don't you tell her what you did."You smile smugly"When I was 14, I gambled my winnings from the Squire's melee on a series of bets, multiplying them several times over until what I had won just over 1500 Gold Dragons""You're joking.""I assure you, he is not." At that a moment, the wetnurse brings the baby to Lord Eddard and he lifts her up, lion king style. "I have a daughter!"The Crowd cheers and gives applause until he finally returns the baby to the nursemaids."How did you know?" she asks"I'm pretty good at guessing certain things."You said as you each of the guests began to line up to the fesdt hall, being offered Bread and Salt and welcomed by Lord Eddard and Lady Catelyn."Lord Wyman, it is so good to see you again! We've pork just the way you like it. Please, some bread and salt."He takes some into his mouth and the moment he does, his demeanor relaxes and becomes more casual, though not overly so."Woman after my own heart! You really lucked out with this one My Lord. Three children, a beautiful wife and a warm hearth waiting at home. What more could a man ask for?"They pat eachother on the back as he wobbles in.Next is your turn, as you step forth Lord Eddard speaks out."Catelyn, this is Lord Arthur Tallon, an exceedingly talented man from Reach, hailing from a good family of Knights.""Pleasure to meet you Lord Tallon.""Likewise Lady Catelyn. I wish good health to you and your family.""Some bread and salt?""Oh, thank you please."You take the food into your mouth. After swallowing it, you were protected by the guest right for your stay."I apologise for not being as familiar as Lord Wyman. The North is still very new to me.""It's quite alright, I was scared when I first came here as well. Please, enjoy your stay.""I think I will, thank you."
You are once again at a feast! What would you like to do? > I'd like to chat up with Maester Luwin. > Just drink, relax, eat and mingle see where the evening takes you. > See if you can't find people interested in your guns. Perhaps look for people interested in investing. > Write-in what?
>>2563325> I'd like to chat up with Maester Luwin.
>>2563325>I'd like to chat up with Maester Luwin.See what he is missing that we could provide, maybe in return for loaning a few books (copy that shit) and ask him if he knows about anyone of potential interest to us (be it merchants, hedge Maesters/knights, talented younglings, leftover skilled workers and so on). Maybe also start offering distilleries? A bit of promo work for the biggest Maester in the Norf wouldnt go amiss.
>>2563325>> I'd like to chat up with Maester Luwin.
Is there a dude from Night's Watch around? I'd like to discuss the prospect of them shipping us maple syrup wholesale for future liquor production once we get distillers up.
>>2563325> See if you can't find people interested in your guns. Perhaps look for people interested in investing.As long as they're not Boltons, Karstarks or Umbers. It is known.
>>2563369Not bad. We trade them vodka/liquor and they trade us raw materials. Maybe we can also talk about winter training for some of our men? Granted, thats a ways away yet.
>>2563388Also, with us having a herb garden, we can start making limited amounts of Jägermeister.
>>2563393Isn't Jägermeister's recipe a closely guarded secret?
>>2563441Ok, "Off-Brand Alcohol with Random Weeds in it with added Sugar".
>>2563325>> See if you can't find people interested in your guns. Perhaps look for people interested in investing.
>>2563311Check'emWe may want to ask the Lady Airis to have a peek at her book of grudges on the section of the traitorous thieves who stole family heirlooms. We do not want to miss some.Having a book of grudges is totally normal amongst the sons of Grungi, The Smith.>>2563325> See if you can't find people interested in your guns. Perhaps look for people interested in investing.>>2563441>>2563393>>2563457Or Absinthe and Swedish bitter.
>>2563370>>2563471>>2563575See, the problem with selling our guns on a mass scale is that everybody else will now also posess guns, with us not having that big of an edge. Those guns inevitably drift around and may up where we dont want them. Besides, we cant control the powder after we sell it.If we want to sell guns, keep it to limited batches of pistols. Make them look nice (get an artisan for wood carving) and sell them as collection objects in cases or something. An exclusive item that saves your bacon in a pinch. Something nobility would be interested in. This way we still control the battlefield guns while getting a way to generate more money.
>>2563325>> See if you can't find people interested in your guns. Perhaps look for people interested in investing.The initial capital gained will further develop us, guns quickly become more lethal as they become more advanced, so if it ever comes to it, we'd likely be fighting knockoffs and lower tech guns.
>>2563325>> Just drink, relax, eat and mingle see where the evening takes you.
>>2563325>> Just drink, relax, eat and mingle see where the evening takes you.See if we can't find a wench and rid ourselves of this undying virginity.Even a dwarf fucks his anvil every once in a while.
>>2563794Dont be a slut.
>>2563830It's called be a player and Arthur will dip his mighty knightly wick into a random wench before this night is done.
>>2563836Its called being a harlot, and honor demands chastity. You dumb bimbo.
>>2563841You will cease these insults right now you baka
>>2563325>Chat up Maester Luwin. Perhaps a book swap?
So what are we thinking of doing long term? We have land to work with now, so our first move should be to circle the wagons a bit and secure our industrial base. Afterwards it sounds like we want more/bigger guns and ships. I'm trying to think of our current connections, so far we:- Have a family back in the Reach- Became a bannerman to the Starks (who replace the Tyrells as our liege)- More or less burned any possible bridge with Tywin Lannister, though we did do Tygett a favor that one time.- Helped the King win a war against the Ironborn and are the main arms supplier for prince Stannis (the master of ships).- We have massive cred with any maesters we might meet- Neighbours with the Manderlys.We could get married, but the higher we aim in a spouse the more obligations we get saddled with. In that regard Airis is sort of the girl next door. She doesn't come with much in the way of political connections but she would solidify our claim on the land beyond any doubt. On the other side of the spectrum we could just gain power and prestige until lords start throwing their daughters at us. (or mom does)
Can't go wrong with Airis. She seems normal, which is good. Realistically, given enough time, we can become the regional powerhouse. Really don't need all those ties with far-off lords
>Chat up Maester Luwin. Perhaps a book swap?Can we all agree that it is a good idea to keep our guns away from our potential rivals? Giving guns to everyone who has money is a good way to get killed.
>>2565783>Implying we will have a choiceYou don't just get to keep tech from your Liege, you know.
>>2565872In the Norf? Yes we do. Tywin would probably exploit us for all he can but Ned? Never. Also a reason to protect him from Bolton/Greyjoy/Joffrey shenanigans. With the Starks in power we can do almost anything we want. A steelworks with blast furnaces and Bessemer converters? QM even said we could do it before 5K if we are dedicated enough to steam power.Basically, we need not divulge our secrets, we can sell our products (like distilleries, that many lords would want).>>2564926I actually think she could be quite useful in regards to local politics (get Influence maybe?). Whether we can find someone better is also a question but we should figure it out sooner or later. Say the next year.
>>2565922>NedNed's dead baby, Ned's deadbut seriously, once the war of the five kings kicks off, we are going to be forced into providing shit for the army, especially after the betrayal.
>>2565922Selling guns lets us spread fame and power across the world. No one became a superpower by being a hermit. And as they become more common, see us with a full gun army could get folks to surrender out of fear.>>2565999We should save Ned.
>>2565922We still can't say no if he wishes to buy some.
>>2566085We can say no to anyone we want except our liege lord and the king/ our bro Mannis
>>2566058See, Im not actually against selling. I AM against selling before we have a good counter. For example, being able to machine rifles with breech loaders vs selling masses of match/flintlocks. And coincidentally, we have 10 years time to do it. We might not get percussion caps but an army that has breech-loading rifles and can shoot twice as fast over double the distance seems a good enough deterrant to guarantee muskets will not be used against us, meaning we can sell like no tomorrow. Get where I am going with this?>>2565999Yes, but we do it according to tradition, not providing arms for the whole army for free. If we do, its a business transaction.
>>2566085Yes we can. Again, we are in the Norf. It would not be a popular choice but we could. And Ned cant forcefully take our stuff without some pretty good reasons (like slavery). We would still need to provide levies though and they would probably be gunpowder.
>>2566207Probably should remind you what Rob did during war of 5k. Winterfell rarely comes knocking, but they're just as capable of getting what they want through intimidating uppity vassals that forget their place as they are of maintaining the respect of their vassals. The Stark are the house with the most power over their own vassals, but also one that only tends to intervene when their vassals step out of line due to the vast distances and difficulties in mobilization. If you wanted to be a lord practically beholden to yourself only, then Riverlands had been the best pick. The Tullys ultimately are relatively weak despite their status, which is why it's almost always split during conflicts to different sides.
> Maesterbation[1/2]"Ah, just one thing. Might I borrow the counsel of your Maester during my stay? It is the first time I've had to construct a form of government and I'd be glad if he could recommend me some books on the subject.""Of course, Lord Tallon. I trust you'll have little trouble in finding a Maester amongst our rugged guests.""Many thanks my Lord."Upon entering you notice many a Lord, high and petty alike were socialising and already readying for the good times. Ale and appetizers were already being served, but the Main courses would be brought in only at the Lord's command. The Hall itself was quite spartan in it's design. You reckoned that was much the way of the Northmen. There were few if any ostentatious displays of wealth like you'd have seen in the Reach. Rather than artwork, decorated murals, highly ornate tapestries and the like, everything was catered to being... more in touch with nature.Luxurious furs, horns and antlers of great beasts... Silver seemed to be a dominant way of decoration in here. The Dining Hall had a very warm feel to it, like the it was pulsing with life. It was quite well insulated.You could see a Maester you guessed to be Luwin sitting by himself on one of the benches like a wallflower with a cup on his hand as he observed the guests in the hall and decided to approach him."Mind if I sit with you?"He waves next to him"By all means, there's room.""It's my first time attending a Northern feast you know. I'm Arthur Tallon, pleased to meet you.""Yes, I've heard of you. Few Maesters who don't know your name these days. Or your rather telling appearance.""Nobleman needs recognition to advance does he not? If people are talking about me, even if it's just about my choice of attire, that's still free publicity.""I wouldn't know much about matters of fashion. Maesters have little time for such pursuits."You smile"Listen, I like to shoot straight. The Reason I approached you Maester Luwin is because I'd like your advise. You see, I'm tasked with recreating governance in the lands I've been granted and I'd seek your educated opinion on the matter.""Well, my first recommendation is that you'd hire a Maester.""I've already got one, what else?""Well, your Maester should be able to offer sage advise on how to construct a governing body and maintain it in your absensce if he is any good. After that it's matters of military and defense that should concern you. A Lord must be able to keep the peace after all. Treasury has little value if it can be stolen easily."
[2/2]"and what of matters of Justice?""I personally believe that in that area, discretion is the better part of valor. Lord ought not to concern himself with issues that do not require his attention. Only when the low justice fails should high justice be exercised, which usually leaves you with pleas for help and death penalties.""And matters of land? I understand I own a fair bit of Bog.""Yes, I find that in the North it's better to develope the land you've got than to lust for better ones. Even boggy wetlands can be turned into productive land given enough investments in honest labor. Many a Lord here commands vast stretches of land and it could take well over a week before they notice a tresspass.""Could you recommend me a book or two on the subject? I'd very much would like to gain some understanding of such learning if at all possible.""We have an extensive Library here in Winterfell and I believe Lord Stark would be willing to let you have access to his library should you ask him, though it would be something of a small favor from his part to let you borrow his books." > Would you like to ask him something specific off him or say something specific to him?
>>2566178I am saying we sell arquebus in around 50-100 to each lord, but not more than that.There is not a huge likely hood that they give theirs to someone else, and our cannons will always give us the stronger push.
>>2566664>What methods of turning bog into workable land are the most profitable/useful?
>>2566664I don't suppose you know of any worthwhile men who would be suited to tasks of finance and running business? The Maester I have is good but not a merchant by heart. Likewise a man who knows how to not only build but to coordinate the people to build effectively would be invaluable to me. And as for something to benefit you, I plan to start selling distilling machines in the coming years, to help make both medicines for wound treatment and drink for the lords. Would a machine like that be of interest to the Maesters in the North? And lastly, any advice on clearing out bandits from my lands? The former servants of the castle have taken up arms and prey upon the weak now. I dunno, anything else we want to ask him besides getting a steward, a foreman, chivalry and selling distilleries?
>>2566691Also this.>>2566686A minor lord buys guns from us and Bolton says to sell them to him. Minor lord says yes sir and Bolton gobbles up 2000 muskets and the powder for them. An overexagerating anwser but not impossible or even that unlikely. The whole point is that when we dont have enough industrial capacity to shit out a hard counter (like rifled guns that outrange theirs) I would rather keep the guns small scale. Sell the aforementioned fancy pistols, give them a taste and sell big when we are the point we need to be to sell them guilt-free.
>>2566706There is a chance, but I think like valyrian weapons, you could take them from lesser lords, but odds are they would fight back.
>>2566722I mean liege lord offers 2x the money. They will pretty much get what they want.>>2566664Since the favour is a tiny one like loaning a horse for breeding we should take the deal and get access to their library.
>>2566761You could offer them ten times the money and they might not sell, especially if they know we wont sell them anymore guns.
>>2566854The point is, its conjecture. We have no idea what they might do with the guns and if we get into a situation where our castle is attacked by 200 guys with guns vs our 100 we are going to have a bad time. Especially if the attack is with normal troops as well. Point is, while the money would be nice, the potential disadvantages are big and depending on how we go about it could cost us dearly. If you have an actual plan to stop us getting fucked over Im happy to listen. matchlocks are an option but still subpar.
>>2566886A thousand guys could pour out of the woods and ass rape us for an eternity. The point is a bird in hand is better than two in bush.The odds of someone attack the one guy who can make more guns is low, and lower still if they want to get more guns. What they would do is try to get us to side with them.And who the fuck would even attack us, the Bolton? Guys who have to cross through Hornwood, Manderly, and or Stark lands to besiege us?Sure we could cower in our Castle acting like ever other lord in history, doing a whole lotta nutten. Or we could sell guns, mass wealth, turn that into more wealth, turn that into power and become the greatest lord in the North.
>>2566691This>>2566664Also thank him for listening to our selfish advances, we know that he wont accept any form of material gratitude if it wont serve house stark, but we'd like to get to know him. Also talk about hobbies and interests, that kind of thing.
It's a danger sure, but I think you're overblowing it a bit. The chances of guns being used against us is extremely small. As pointed out in order to attack us someone would have to march or sail an army into the North, which would immediately start a war. They would have to fight their way through Ned's combined bannermen just to get to our castle. And then if by some miracle they still have enough forces to siege the castle AND still have all of their guns, AND have enough powder to actually use them, then they have to contend with the garrison. A garrison armed with more guns, and better guns and likely cannon as well.However if (when?) things go to hell as the story progresses things will get tricky. Should Ned die in King's Landing then Robb would call the banners up, including us. If the army of the North is defeated then there really isn't anything standing between our castle and the armies of any major faction like the Lannisters or Daenerys. Our best bet would be to become indispensable to multiple great houses so we have people rooting for our interests, possible on both sides of a war. The stormlands, the reach, the north, the crown etc.
Can we ask what he thought of Ruger? Sorta gauge what his view on Citadel politics is?
Something that occurs to me is that we'd do well to invest in livestock like goats and sheep. Given they can be managed by far fewer men than an equally profitable amount of farmland while also living off of otherwise unusable terratories.Then if we construct a dedicated loom structure, we could certainly increase the production of any small folk herds too in addition to our own. As historically the processing of wool was a home-craft taken care of by the wives of the herders which reduced the productivity of the industry, as the methods and equipment were traditional and outdated.With good herds, we'd have a supply of meat, milk and a nice background source of income that would outproduce similar operations throughout westeros by reducing the costs of manufacturing refined material and working with larger amounts of material than most groups might have access to.This is admittedly based off the idea we can develop a waterwheel powered loom or other such system to reduce labour costs but even without that, just by bulk buying wool and having a full-time force processing it we'd sustain higher productivity relative to cost.
>>2568854 I'm seeing a peasant on a stationary bike powering everything. Barring that they use the same technology as like those medieval cranes with the two peasants in giant hamster wheels
>>2568908>I'm seeing a peasant on a stationary bike powering everything.Oh you have no idea: assuming westeros has developed fabric working past it's most primitive stages (which it almost certainly has given all the shit they have made from fabric), we can expect the below level of technology.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinning_wheelThese are fairly effective at processing material (The spinning wheel increased the productivity of thread making by a factor of greater than 10.) but are limited by the scale at which they can process material, the need for a human to power it (some variants used a foot peddle, others used a crank, etc) and such.Compare that to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_frameWhich could not only work 128 separate threads at once but did so faster (as water provided better power than a human operator) and more effectively (as the yarn produced was stronger).>>2568910I remember that show, did you ever see the one where they built a Roman villa from scratch?
>>2568919I can see a big ass water wheel or wind turbine working well for us if that's the case.
The first three minutes of this video are pretty useful for the effect we can expect this sort of project to cause as well as the technical details, although on a far smaller scale unless we start constructing factories for other lords too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk00hBza3Ag>>2568926Yep. It's all pre-1800's tech (technically mid 1700's but the inventor of the water frame took awhile to figure out how to enhance his design to the stated capacity on wikipedia although it was still superior to pre-existing methods it wasn't ot the same degree) as well so there's no real question as to materials or skills not being there.If we can figure out the design of the needed improvements and combine them all together with a waterwheel, we can begin mass production of any fabric we can get our hands on from yarn to cloth and so on. The experience we get here will be useful in automating and improving other industries: sawmills for lumber, auto-hammers for iron working and such.
Do we have a river for a water wheel?
>>2568935I think our lands do but even if we don't, we could use animal or windpower instead although that would be either more costly or less reliable.
>>2568783As QM said in the Discord, the most likely shitstorm is a proxy war, with us playing one Vietnam and Ned backing us while the opponent gets troops and gold from some other interested party. This means the big boys can say their hands are clean while we are locked in conflict. Losing our rifle advantage is a bad thing in this case.>>2568854We will need a herd for saltpeter anyway. The herd being secondary to the production of gunpowder.>>2568854>>2568908>>2568926>>2568937The whole reason we set up in the north is to have the resources to build and utilize steam power. QM also said it is a relatively easy thing for us. This means steam powered mine pumps, steam hammers and metal rollers in addition to powered appliances everywhere else applicable. QM confirmed a 3x increase in gains with proper application of steam engines to appropriate industries. This means wasting time and money on a windmill is unneeded. Rather, getting gunpowder up and rushing steam is the most appropriate option. Since fully independent powder production costs 40 Wealth and we want the distillery factory for another 10 we are left with 5 for pocket change to prototype and build the steam engine for our mine, thus drastically increasing the yield of said mine, which is further augmented by the use of our, for now, functionally limitless supply of gunpowder for blasting. We literally turn our shitty mine into the most profitable in the North. Now apply the same tech to forges, blast furnaces and bessemer converters and you can see where our money really lies.
>>2568959>The whole reason we set up in the north is to have the resources to build and utilize steam power. QM also said it is a relatively easy thing for us. This means steam powered mine pumps, steam hammers and metal rollers in addition to powered appliances everywhere else applicable. QM confirmed a 3x increase in gains with proper application of steam engines to appropriate industries. Very true yeah.>This means wasting time and money on a windmill is unneeded. Ignoring the fact that until all the coal mines have been enhanced to improve their output, the cost to run a steam engine would be extreme compared to setting up a waterwheel which will almost certainly remain a equally viable power source if used properly.>Rather, getting gunpowder up and rushing steam is the most appropriate option. Since fully independent powder production costs 40 Wealth and we want the distillery factory for another 10 we are left with 5 for pocket change to prototype and build the steam engine for our mine, thus drastically increasing the yield of said mine, which is further augmented by the use of our, for now, functionally limitless supply of gunpowder for blasting. We literally turn our shitty mine into the most profitable in the North. Now apply the same tech to forges, blast furnaces and bessemer converters and you can see where our money really lies.True but the thing is you can quite easily saturate the market for metal and it is extremely hard to transport long distances, meaning we'd run out of places to sell to quickly. Meanwhile with fabrics? Light and universally wanted in refined and finished forms in great enough quantity that we won't fill demand, at least not as quickly.Still I'd point out that whatever the power source is, fabrics are a gold mine market for us and the same is true for things like ships and such.
>>2568963>Ignoring the fact that until all the coal mines have been enhanced to improve their output, the cost to run a steam engine would be extreme compared to setting up a waterwheel which will almost certainly remain a equally viable power source if used properly.Not even close. We can fuel the things with peat, which we have 2 whole tiles of. QM confirmed. Also, water wheel equally viable? Did you see an industrial revolution brought about by water wheels?>True but the thing is you can quite easily saturate the market for metal and it is extremely hard to transport long distances, meaning we'd run out of places to sell to quickly. Meanwhile with fabrics? Light and universally wanted in refined and finished forms in great enough quantity that we won't fill demand, at least not as quickly.With White Harbour right next to us and Braavos not that far we have plenty of places to sell to. Not to mention all the other businesses that benefit from steam power. As to fabrics, to really take advantage of steam looms we need a LOT of raw materials. We can do far more work per peasant but at our scale it isnt that great. Do I still want looms? Yes. Will they be the primary earner? No. We have shit land and great resources. What you are talking about takes place in the Reach.
>>2568973>Also, water wheel equally viable? Did you see an industrial revolution brought about by water wheels?Yes. Many factories used waterwheels because they would be situated along rivers to take advantage of them for moving materials and product to and from the factory. I'd point you to the very first sentence on this wiki page.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_power_during_the_Industrial_RevolutionDon't get me wrong, steam power has it's disadvantages which this page also mentions like it depending on your river not freezing or drying up but the simple fact is we've got a river in our lands which we should take advantage of. Rather than expending coal to power it with steam, which could instead be used to fund our projects or to perform more vital work, we should use water because it is there and immediately viable compared to steam.>With White Harbour right next to us and Braavos not that far we have plenty of places to sell to. I'll be honest my knowledge of westerosian geography is shit but I'd point out we've sold our only ship and we'd need to either build or buy another if you want to sell directly to anywhere we can't reach by land and even by land, we're limited by the distance that a caravan can travel before the costs incurred outweigh any profit made which is why I argue against a focus on metals as our profit maker..>Not to mention all the other businesses that benefit from steam power. As to fabrics, to really take advantage of steam looms we need a LOT of raw materials. True.>We can do far more work per peasant but at our scale it isnt that great. Do I still want looms? Yes. Will they be the primary earner? No. I can accept that they won't be that profitable compared to the Distillery but I would argue their profits are hardly negligible.>We have shit land and great resources. What you are talking about takes place in the Reach.Sheep historically grazed on "shit land" that wasn't good enough for farming and seeing as we have tonnes of shit land, that means we can have tonnes of sheep.
>>2568983See, we jump over the shitty inefficient steam engines and go straight to Watt, thus not wasting 95% to heat the air but actually getting a decent efficiency out of our fuel. As to the fuel itself, we have 2 tiles of peat we can burn. Something that people did up to and including the 20. century to produce power. As to the river, since most of our shit is not along it and it is not a big one (as far as I understand its streams) we might as well start with the efficient planning (like locating the heavy steel industry close to the mines regardless of where the water is). As to us lacking a ship, yes, for now. This does not however stop us from selling to merchants who smell profit like a shark in the water. A little bribing and we have merchants coming enough. As to shipping by land? We wont, maybe some traders will, their deal. And as to the shit land, half of our land is wetland/peat bog, 1/4 is farms and the rest is under our city and mines. If QM says we can use sheep for saltpeter farming and they are useful for steam powered looms I support it. Wont hope for any miracles though and honestly I expect QM gave us a flax neighbour for a reason.
>>2568994>See, we jump over the shitty inefficient steam engines and go straight to Watt, thus not wasting 95% to heat the air but actually getting a decent efficiency out of our fuel.Assuming we can design such an engine straight off (in a reasonable time frame) and that the metal / forges we have access to can actually handle creating the parts for it: that would resolve the issue somewhat, true.>As to the fuel itself, we have 2 tiles of peat we can burn. Something that people did up to and including the 20. century to produce power.Aye but that is currently something used for profit and the loss of that profit could negatively effect our situation.>As to the river, since most of our shit is not along it and it is not a big one (as far as I understand its streams) we might as well start with the efficient planning (like locating the heavy steel industry close to the mines regardless of where the water is). Eh, the effectiveness of a waterwheel can be modified by creating a fairly basic dam structure to force the water through it faster or in a greater volume even if it is just a stream. Still I understand your point that having the industry and mining close would be smart but in the case of the looms, there is no reason to have them near the mines so having them near the river is as sensible as anywhere assuming we create or have some area down stream that boats can go to pickup and drop off cargo.>As to us lacking a ship, yes, for now. This does not however stop us from selling to merchants who smell profit like a shark in the water. A little bribing and we have merchants coming enough. As to shipping by land? We wont, maybe some traders will, their deal. It will take time to set up our facilities so unless we have regular access to these merchants (unlikely, more likely our goods are shipped by our small folk to White harbour and then traded there) or you plan on discussing it with them now and getting their interest (with what would sound like the ravings of a somewhat mad man) they won't be arriving with any great frequency or number until after information has spread about us. I find your blase attitude to ensuring our product has the needed market unsettling given how important this is to funding our plans.>And as to the shit land, half of our land is wetland/peat bog, 1/4 is farms and the rest is under our city and mines. If QM says we can use sheep for salt-peter farming and they are useful for steam powered looms I support it. Wont hope for any miracles though and honestly I expect QM gave us a flax neighbour for a reason.Eh, flax works too honestly given it can be made into fabrics just as effectively so if in the end we just trade for the raw material that is fine too. I could've sworn we had more land than that however given this is the north: the region's whole thing is that there is massive stretches of land under even minor lords.
>>2569009>Aye but that is currently something used for profit and the loss of that profit could negatively effect our situation.Since peat is a shit trade good and the engines MORE than make up for it, moot point. Im not even sure we sell peat mechanically. Might just be a fluff thing.>Eh, the effectiveness of a waterwheel can be modified by creating a fairly basic dam structure to force the water through it faster or in a greater volume even if it is just a stream. Still I understand your point that having the industry and mining close would be smart but in the case of the looms, there is no reason to have them near the mines so having them near the river is as sensible as anywhere assuming we create or have some area down stream that boats can go to pickup and drop off cargo.When we are already building dams we might as well locate the engine in the town and stick multiple industries on it. More secure and better to incorporate other works.>It will take time to set up our facilities so unless we have regular access to these merchants (unlikely, more likely our goods are shipped by our small folk to White harbour and then traded there) or you plan on discussing it with them now and getting their interest (with what would sound like the ravings of a somewhat mad man) they won't be arriving with any great frequency or number until after information has spread about us. I find your blase attitude to ensuring our product has the needed market unsettling given how important this is to funding our plans.Since the former lord traded peat anyway and we have a tiny dock, getting more merchants is about building a proper Dock and getting a few to come to start off. (10 Wealth holding).>Eh, flax works too honestly given it can be made into fabrics just as effectively so if in the end we just trade for the raw material that is fine too. I could've sworn we had more land than that however given this is the north: the region's whole thing is that there is massive stretches of land under even minor lords.Yeah our lands are basically set up for maximum industrial shenanigans, less so for farming. If we can get a good trade deal from the neighbouring lord - absolutely. Will he simply decide to sell his flax for less profit? Probably no. It all depends on how he has his things set up but it wont be easy anyway.
>>2569015>Since peat is a shit trade good and the engines MORE than make up for it, moot point. Im not even sure we sell peat mechanically. Might just be a fluff thing.True but we'll need OP to chime in to confirm that. I do acknowledge that the industry a engine would support would produce more profit than the peat but my logic is we can have the peat and the industry for a time if we use the waterwheel where possible.>When we are already building dams we might as well locate the engine in the town and stick multiple industries on it. More secure and better to incorporate other works.Eh, I think our concepts of what I mean when I say dam are quite different. I'm talking about a wall about the thickness of a man's forearm at the top and maybe one'n'half of that at the bottom. Also I don't disagree sticking the engine in the town would have advantages like proximity to labour force but the pollution and distance from resources could reduce happiness and effectiveness.>Since the former lord traded peat anyway and we have a tiny dock, getting more merchants is about building a proper Dock and getting a few to come to start off. (10 Wealth holding).True.>Yeah our lands are basically set up for maximum industrial shenanigans, less so for farming. If we can get a good trade deal from the neighbouring lord - absolutely. Will he simply decide to sell his flax for less profit? Probably no. It all depends on how he has his things set up but it wont be easy anyway.A good thing to note is that we'd be refining fabrics quicker, cheaper and better than our contemporary competitors so even if he did try to raise the price, chances are it wouldn't impact us too significantly, especially because we'd be bulk buying allowing us to argue for a discount over what a smaller purchase might get.Economies of scale are fun!
There is a stream which provides fresh drinking water for the town. You don't have a river.There is also no mechanical benefit to Peat during summer, but when Winter comes, it takes over the Herb farm exports.
>>2569048So pretty minor. We get at least a +2 from the improved mine alone, so we can easily tank the -1 from not trading peat for 1 year in 6.
>>2569048I see. Doubtful we'll be powering much from such a minor waterway. So I guess our above discussion was quite pointless.>>2569050True.
> Bogs > Skilled men > Ruger[1/2]"Ah, I don't mind, provided that it's simply something of equivalent value that I'll return the favor with. Nothing like demanding me to hand over my trade secrets."He chuckles"Oh goodness no. I was thinking something along the line of borrowing breeding stock or simply sending out a gift at a later date to show your gratitude as is custom when requesting something of one's liege.""Well in that case, I find that more than reasonable. Though I still had a few things I'd like your counsel on if you wouldn't mind."He takes a sip from his cup and nods"Very well Lord Tallon, ask and I will seek to answer to the best of my abilities.""You mentioned about a way to reclaim the bogs...""Yes! Bogs can indeed be turned to arable land. Wetlands suffer from an excessive buildup of moisture in the soil, so one simply needs to remove the excess moisture from the ground. It's hard labor, but land drains can turn an otherwise unusable plot of land into verdant plains. Key is making the water go somewhere that it's needed. I'll look for some books discussing the subject in the Library tomorrow if you'd like.""I think I'd like that very much. Thank you. I'd also ask you if you know of any worthwhile men who'd be suited to running a business? My Maester is not exactly a Merchant by heart."He rubs his chin before shaking his head"Hmm... Not personally, no. If I did, I'd likely have hired them myself, but you could always either hire more Maesters or make it known you're looking for a Highborn lad groomed for Stewardship with good recommendations. That is the traditional route.""I did offer up a blade I crafted to Lord Stark in exchange for help to announce the fact that I was hiring.""Very good then. Seems to me you're on the right path to having a functioning council.""By the way, did you hear about the passing of Archmaester Ruger?""I did receive a raven from the Citadel, yes. I did not personally know him, but it's sad to see hear him go. His books were always ever reliable, though his reputation as an Archmaester was... controversial.""You can say that again. Still, you're right. He was a very skilled man. I learned much from him on ship design."At that moment the Lord of Winterfell arrived in person to the ball with his wife and family."Ah, it seems the feast is beginning, I should look for a seat.""Bit of advise Lord Tallon before you go. Be it kindness, inaction or treachery, the North remembers. The folks in here are steadfast in both alliances and grudges. You may not be a Maester, but my predecessor's actions have not gone forgotten and you carry the chain same as I even if you don't wear it.""I will keep that in mind Maester Luwin. Hope you will enjoy the feast.""Likewise Lord Arthur."
[2/2]"My honoured Lords and Ladies. Winterfell welcomes you! But before beginning the feast, there's a small matter I'd like to bring to your attention. Lord Tallon, come, stand up and show your face to your peers."You stand up and give everyone a wave."House Fullaxe is no more. They were found guilty of the crime of smuggling weapons to the enemies of our allies, the Arryns. After their guilt was determined, his men looted their lord's castle, butchering his council and fleeing into the Night.""I've decided Arthur Tallon shall be the new Lord of those lands. His first task as Lord is to recreate a new council and restore order to his lands."He waves over to someone come over."Ser Rodrik, the Gift."His Master-at-arms steps in the center of the room with the blade you forged as servants bring three dead swines hanging hooks."He has expressed to me the desire to make his plea for help known amongst you and now I have done so. For this he gifted me blade of his own making. Ser Rodrik."He unsheathes the curved blade and displays it to the Lords attending before swinging it at the hanging swines, cutting through all three with one slash."If you feel he is generous enough Lord to serve, then answer his call. That is all. I hereby declare that the feast has begun. Eat and drink to your heart's content."He raises his cup and downs then first cup of wine as the servants bring in the proper meaty foods. > Give me Endurance check to see if you get drunk under the table
That means 3d6
Rolled 3, 6, 2 = 11 (3d6)>>2569164
Rolled 4, 5, 1 = 10 (3d6)>>2569194
Rolled 2, 2, 5 = 9 (3d6)>>2569194FOR SIGMAR!
>>2569202>>2569203>>2569207What are the odds...
Rolled 4, 1, 1 = 6 (3d6)>>2569164
Rolled 6, 3, 4 = 13 (3d6)>>2569202Well, slightly above average.Mediocrity continues.
>>2569164Can we choose not to drink excessively?
>>2569217When you are at a feast, and get told come drink with me by future peers, and war veterans... Not really.
>>2569217>not getting uncontrollably shitfacedDo you think this is the Riverlands? Wait until we start producing hard liquor.
>>2569217Northmen are simple. If we get shitfaced we're just a soft reachman trying to be friendlyif we don't drink much, we're shifty and potentially untrustworthyThis is a safe enough place, for the moment.
>>2569212Squad moral brokenThe emperor has abandoned us
>>2570208Impossible. We just aren't sacrificing enough for the Imperium.
Well it could have been worse, at least we didn't get blind drunk and wake up in Airis's bed.
We probably got hammered and talked some shit but I doubt anything major happened because of this. We probably get mocked a bit for being lightweight but thats it. Probably something our neighbours/Manderly will refer to for a year or two.
>>2573127lightweight southerners? Never heard of 'em!>>2572843Or worse, Wyman's bed.That WOULD be awkward as the seven hells.
[1/2]The Feast begun and the attendants ate and drank, laughed and flung banter. Huge man known as Greatjon even started singing at a certain point and to his credit, he wasn't bad at it. Some took to dancing as the musicians played whilst others played games.In the midst of it all, you were largely ignored. There were no Lords lining up to push their sons into your service or anything of that sort. Everyone sort of formed their own groups and had fun whilst you sort of felt like an outsider at the center of all this, then again you were never much of a social butterfly to begin with, having focused on things with more concrete value and permanency than making friends.As you poked at your piece of game in silence, watching everyone's antics from the sidelines, Lord Wyman appeared behind you to get some deer sirloin in front of you. "What's the matter Lord Wallflower? Lost your appetite?"You shrug"No, the food is fine, I just realized that I don't really know anyone at this gathering.""You should drink more. Few friends in life are made sober."And so, you did. As a Lord, you were sitting at the table with the good food. After a few drinks you decided that if the Lords weren't interested in chatting with you, you'd plunder some goodies from the Lord's table, namely a jug of the more expensive drink as well as some good cuts of meat and head down to the end of the room where the bastards, second sons, knights and the like would eat their humble pie."You lads got room in this table for a Wallflower that just shamelessly poached some Dornish Wine and Venison from the Lord's table for his new friends before asking their names?"The youngsters looked at you for a moment and made room. You plunked your loot on the table and sat down."Help yourselves friends."You didn't need to ask them twice. Each of the four lads around you happily took their cut from the plunder."So, might I know the names of the people I'll be drinking with today?"All these lads were in their early twenties.First to talk was a lad with grey-blue eyes and a thick, dark brown hair."I'm Brandon Branch, son of Barrian Branch my house hails from wolfswood. Welcome to the table for us men of small account."He waved towards one of his companions, a lad with scarred hands, dark hair and pale eyes."Ser Warrek Snow, a recently knighted bastard of Warrek Flint my Lord."Then an absolute manlet with green eyes and light brown hair."That there's Darvin Smallwood, a fourthborn lad, his house is also from wolfswood."He waved next towards the burly looking lad with light brown eyes and hair with the beginnings of a beard growing from his chin."I'm Desmon Cerwyn, cousin to the heir of Castle Cerwyn.""And I'm Lord Arthur Tallon, second born of Lord Bryen Tallon of Copperhall. Now with introductions out of the way, what do you lads do for fun?""Warrek's got some playing cards if you want in. Winner downs a cup as handicap.""Sounds good to me."
[2/2]>11And so, you spent the evening with men on small account, bastards and their ilk before finally withdrawing to your guest room. To your credit, you didn't pass out or vomit on anyone, so that's a win on your books.You also didn't wake up with anyone next to you and no recollection of what had happened, so that's double win.After a hearty breakfast you were approached by Maester Luwin who told you that he has looked through the Library for some books that you could borrow relating to the subject of turning wetlands into servicable pieces of property as well as treatises on maintaining one's household and finances.They're not original manuscripts thankfully, so even if something were to happen to them, the knowledge wouldn't be lost.Even though the feast will keep on going for some days, you could take your leave now if you wanted to and head to your holdings. Nobody could say anything bad about you for wanting to get your lands in order as soon as possible. Alternatively you could stay if there is something you wish to accomplish at Winterfell still or if there's someone you'd like to try and talk with. You could also try and pitch your liege lord an idea of an invention with the hopes he'd be willing to invest in it. > Try and sell Ned an idea of a potential invention (what?) > Stick around at the feast and try to get a contact with a specific person (who?) > I should probably head to my Lands. I've done what I set out to do. > Something else: Write-in
>>2573227>I should probably head to my Lands. I've done what I set out to do.I want to sell Ned on something, but let's check on our castle AND iron/coalmine firstcould do something useful in there.
>>2573227>> I should probably head to my Lands. I've done what I set out to do.I can't think of anything more we should be doing here.
>>2573236What do you want to pitch to Ned?
>>2573244to be honest? basic things such all the agriculture improvement we can make, glass-making (greenhouses would be a gods-sent to the North), munition armour etc but those will be better-supported AFTER we used them in our lands first.Also, still a decade until the White Walkers so we can take it a bit slow for now. Let's focus on the castle first.
>>2573227The only things I can think of pitching to Ned right now are the thermometer, mechanical clock, gas lamp and astrolabe that we can make in sort order, but most of those would be more useful to the citadel or our new maester.Most of the important things right now should be done in our territory. I wonder if building places like public libraries or observatories would invite inventor-scientist types or competing with the citadel is entirely pointless?
We should pitch the idea of designing easily operated alcohol distillers which could lift the Night's from state of perpetual bankruptcy.Even criminals like hootch, so should help with morale as well.
>>2573274We'd need to get to Eastwatch-by-the-Sea first. Let's do that after making a new ship first, need to get our current one to Stannis.Also, do we know why he's "Prince" Stannis yet still in charge of Dragonstone?
>> I should probably head to my Lands. I've done what I set out to do.
>>2573227> Try and sell Ned an idea of a potential invention (what?)> Stick around at the feast and try to get a contact with a specific person (who?)A few days wont matter in the long run and this gives us a way to both gauge the people and maybe get a steward, what with making the sword. We should try to find some sharp lowborn man who has either been educated in finance or has run something (and not into the ground) to be our Steward. A way to this is asking the lowborn sons themselves, as we just did. Further, we should try to sell distilleries to people. We promote the thing and invite people to our castle in a years time to try it. Get a few people interested. I also want us to visit the Weirwood and see if we cant gain some knowledge or just prank call Bloodraven. Otherwise, try to socialize as much as we can since this is a rare opportunity. Also, if the Fairaxe girl is here, we should talk to her about her education, what she is good at and what she would want to do in life. Parallel to this we scout out any other eligible ladies.Basically, take the most from this since a week is nothing in the long run but how many times will there be a feast with the whole north in attendance?
>>2573275Because the holder of Dragonstone traditionally also holds the title of Prince.
>>2573284He doesn't in canon, either books or TV.He was always referred to by everyone as Lord Stannis Baratheon of Dragonstone.Or, of course, King Stannis.This means there's a difference between OTL Stannis-Robert relationship with this quest ver.But eh, doesn't really matter. Both Stannis and Ned likes us so we're good enough for King Bobby
>>2573291"After Aegon's Conquest of the Seven Kingdoms, Dragonstone in the newly-created crownlands served as the seat of their heir apparent, known as the Prince of Dragonstone."From the wiki.
>>2573294>Stannis Baratheon is the head of House Baratheon of Dragonstone and the Lord of Dragonstone. He is the secondborn son of Steffon Baratheon, Lord of Storm's End, and Lady Cassana Estermont. He has an older brother, King Robert I Baratheon, and a younger brother, Lord Renly Baratheon. Stannis serves on Robert's small council as the master of ships. Yes, Dragonstone is the traditional seat of Targaryen heirs, ala English "Prince of Wales" title.But! In the books and tv shows, both Stannis and Renly are not referred to as "Prince".Again, doesn't really matter.
>>2573227>Try and sell Ned an idea of a potential invention (what?)munition grade plate armor, if its not feasible/to much of a hassle them>I should probably head to my Lands. I've done what I set out to do.bid our farewells to our new friends and them to come if they are nearby and pay a visit
>>2573250>>2573274changing my answer to this, better to pitch the ideas after they have been tested and tried in our lands first>>2573280supporting the visit to the weirdwood tho
Jorah Mormont.We can stop his fall from grace, and deny Dany a huge asset.
>>2573332Hmm... An interesting idea, but at the same time you'd be denying Night's Watch of Jeor Mormont as he took the Black out of shame for his son's crimes.Still an interesting concept.He was a man with great deal of money problems which lead him to the route of slavery and you essentially know how to turn shit to gold, which means Jorah would have very much to gain from associating himself with a man like you.
>>2573340Wait, scratch that, just checked the timeline again.Jeor Mormont got elected as Lord Commander at 288 AC, which means last year, so it couldn't have been his son's crimes.Feel free to chill with Jorah if you want.
>>2573340>An interesting idea, but at the same time you'd be denying Night's Watch of Jeor Mormont as he took the Black out of shame for his son's crimes.Jeor's already on the wall. Jorah inherited before he was dealing slaves, that's why he got away with it for so long.
>>2573344Nice. Another reason not to gtfo and mingle with the crowd. We could get connections and a person interested in buying/selling our things. Especially since it is out of necessity.Delicious profit.
>>2573344Jorah got married to the Reach girl after Ironborn Rebellion right? We should visit him soon. Also, if he want trade... Well, we are a shipbuilder, aren't we? Bear island - Lannisport trade route soon!
>>2573361>>Jorah confirmed for needing money and distilleries being a great way to give him that. This means we have an in and can start allying Jorah.
Id also support a visit to the wierdwood but i think we should get a distillery up and running before we pitch ideas.We managed to develop a interest in our ship only because it worked.And northerners especially have a love for things that are proven.
>>2573409Distilling is a thing in Westeros. The only problem is its either not done well or not done on a large scale. We have the tech to make it both precisely and on a large scale, leading to profit. I dont want us to yell at everyone we have distilleries but speak to specific characters to offer them such a thing. If they are interested we will contact them when we have distilleries to sell. The reason we should do it now is because everybody is in one place whereas we would need to travel for at least half a year to see the same results later.
>>2573415This is correct. Distilling alcoholic beverages is done in Westeros, but rarely in any meaningful quantities. Its use is primarily either an alchemical or a medical one simply because the method itself is quite unrefined save in the Free Cities.This could very well be because sugar generally speaking is cheaper in the Free Cities as it doesn't grow naturally in Westeros.
>>2573227>>2573250>Glassmaking>Try and sell Ned an idea of a potential invention (what?)If we could invent a workable float glass process we could make massive bank selling sheet glass to everyone and also make it affordable to non-great houses in the North. Not to mention the savings in fuel you get even with single pane windows. Ned would be a good person to shill this idea to because Winterfell already has a greenhouse and he would understand all of the benefits.
>>2576027This would mean a lake of molten lead, complicated control mechanisms and more time than we have available. Sounds good, doesnt work.
>>2573227> I should probably head to my Lands. I've done what I set out to do.
> I should probably head to my Lands. I've done what I set out to do.Let’s go manage our shekels to produce more shekels.
>>2573227> I should probably head to my Lands. I've done what I set out to do.>Don't forget to get those books from Ned