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It is said everywhere, from trade-chatter in the Unfree Cities in the east to the Hoppalon Archipelagos in the west, that all rivers in the world share the same source. This is demonstrably untrue but nevertheless, if you know the right way, you can follow any river deeper and deeper inland up towards a single point. And rising there higher than any mountain, atop an aquatic plateau whose edges are perpetual waterfalls, is the city. It stands between the bickering central nations but obeys, respects and recognises none of them.
It has a name, Aquitae Cogituum, but this name barely matters as its citizens simply call it the City. For only rarely would they ever see another. And why would they? It is the grandest city in all the world. It sits close to the heart of all things, above the Font and is both above and separate from all the Lesser Realms. To the city, the matters of the world outside...don’t.

Down below, prophets dream of walking its streets and wars are fought and kings slain for their meagrest treasure. For here it is said that all magic is born. This is something only said by those of the Lesser Realms of course, as it is a statement that would only invite scorn above. Magic is a foreign word. The people of the city above have no word for magic in the same sense that fish would have no word for water. Of course you could say that a fish doesn’t have a word for anything but in the city it just might.

It is the City of Dreams, the City of Reflections and the City of Revelation. It is also, rather more relevantly, the City of Duels.
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>>3096625
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>>3096625
The sun is high in the sky before you are able to drag yourself from bed. It’s a good deal more comfortable than the one you’ve got back home, not least because it had Adriana in it. You get the feeling that she woke some time ago, considerably before you did, but left two bodies behind for your warmth and comfort. So, when you wake sandwiched in a double embrace, why would you leave until you have to?
Adriana has her eyes shut, or at least, she’s shut the two pairs on either side of you.

“I can tell you’re awake,” you eventually say. “I can see you sweeping the street out through the window.”

Adriana lets out a sleepy little sigh.
“I wasn’t trying…”

“...to fake anything.”

You cup her cheek with your hand and watch as both of her bodies involuntarily smile.
“What are you trying to do then?”

“I’m doing my best…”

“...not to kill you.”

“Oh.”
The bed no longer seems quite as comfortable. The warmth stays but now it feels a little suffocating, imprisoned by soft flesh on either side of you. And as much as you like her, you’ll never truly be unaware of how easily she can destroy you. To someone like Adriana, you are nothing but a wavering candle flame. She can snuff you out in an instant, erase you with an accidental breath.
This is the closest the two of you can ever afford to be.
“I should go, huh?”

“If…”

“...you want.”
Her smile, a rare thing to begin with, has already faded. It had done so before you’d spoken, likely in response to your thoughts rather than your words.

“Sorry.”

“I’m sorry…”

“...too.”

You get up and get dressed. This mostly just involves putting your coat and cintura back on, since you hadn’t undressed but the events of the night have also left your vest in some disarray. It only takes a moment to fix yourself back up.

Adriana is, as you’d seen before, waiting for you outside on the street. This part of her is fully dressed and has a broom in one hand. She stops sweeping the moment you shut the door.
‘Goodbye, Sofia.”

“I’ll come back, you know. There’s no reason to sound so forlorn.”
You’re pretty sure you know what’s got her so down though.

“I just wanted to express...I mean, to...no. It doesn’t matter. It was a failure and I was a fool. I nearly inhabited you just from that alone.”

You’re not sure what to say here.


>”Well I still enjoyed it. I won’t ask it of you again though.”

>”Really? But I’d love to try it out again sometime soon!”

>”Probably for the best.”

>”How’s the baby doing?”

>Pay her back that kiss you owe.

>Ask her about her plans for today.

>”It was nice to have someone who can understand what I’m saying…”

>Other (Specify)
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>>3096630

>”Well I still enjoyed it. I won’t ask it of you again though.”

We need to learn to wall off our mind against invasion, for the sake of more cuddling with Adriana.
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>>3096630
>”Well I still enjoyed it. I won’t ask it of you again though.”
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>>3096630
>”Well I still enjoyed it. I won’t ask it of you again though.”
>”It was nice to have someone who can understand what I’m saying…”
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Vote called, writing.
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>”Well I still enjoyed it. I won’t ask it of you again though.”

You should just be honest here. It’s not like you’ll be able to fool her.
“Well I still enjoyed it. But I won’t ask it of you again.”
It would be selfish of you to throw yourself on her, to force her to take the time and effort not to kill you just because you wanted a hug or something more.

“You understand.”
It’s not a question. She already knows, after all.

“Yeah, I get it. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to avoid you or stop coming here, alright? You just shouldered a serious burden for me! You really think I’m going to avoid you just because you can kill me?”
She does scare you and both of you know it. But neither of you can ever say it.

“It’d be the sensible thing to do. I’ve killed a lot of people, Sofia. People who thought they were safe too.”

“Pfft. If it was that easy you wouldn’t have accepted the baby. Come on, why are you trying to scare me away?”

“Because...every day I feel like I understand you a little more. I understand just what a precious and beautiful person you are. And the more I know, the more I grasp.”
She’s a little short of breath all of a sudden.
“And the more of you I have, the less of you you have. Until one day all of you will belong to me and there won’t be any left of you.”

“But it doesn’t have to be that way. It wasn’t for Eduardo, right?”

“But I never once saw inside his head. And...and I don’t think I was ever in love with him either.”
The roundabout confession sends a little shock through your body, thrumming from head to toe. Too bad you’ll never know if she means it or not. It might be something else, distorted by the curse. Why would she love you?
“I really like you, Sofia. I want to have you. I want to surround you. I want to grow and encompass you and know every inch of you. Do you understand now how dangerous this is? I hold myself back every day but I don’t know if I can for you. Not for you…”

No, this isn’t the curse. She really has fallen for you. As far as you know, the first person in the world to ever truthfully mean it has just confessed their love to you. And this is the result? ...Maybe you shouldn’t have stayed in that bed last night. It seems to have sparked a flame that won’t burn out.

“Yes, it’s the truth,” she says, answering a question you didn’t ask, her cheeks flushing as she looks in any direction but you. “And if you stay here for much longer, I won’t be able to stop you from feeling what I feel. And then we’ll have to go back to the bed and after that I won’t be able to promise anything.”

It occurs to you that maybe spending a whole night essentially teasing Adriana wasn’t the brightest idea.

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>>3096747

>Flee immediately.

>”I’ll be back later, I promise.” Flee.

>”Pfft, just go take a cold bath. Nine of them. You’re stronger than this.”


>”And give up on romance? No. I trust you. I’m not going anywhere, I’m staying right here and whatever happens will happen. You won’t kill me.”

>Other (Specify)
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>>3096749
>”I’ll be back later, I promise. Preferably after we've both cooled our heads a little."
>"Also thank you. You saying that means a lot."
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>>3096749
>”And give up on romance? No. I trust you. I’m not going anywhere, I’m staying right here and whatever happens will happen. You won’t kill me.”
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>>3096749
>>Flee immediately.

Nope.
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>>3096749
>”And give up on romance? No. I trust you. I’m not going anywhere, I’m staying right here and whatever happens will happen. You won’t kill me.”
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>>3096749
>”And give up on romance? No. I trust you. I’m not going anywhere, I’m staying right here and whatever happens will happen. You won’t kill me.”
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>>3096749
>”I’ll be back later, I promise. Preferably after we've both cooled our heads a little."
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>>3096749
>>Flee immediately.
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Vote called.
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>Leave

Are you really going to pass up your chance for romance? After throwing so many coins into that fucking fountain? A little voice screams within you that you surely can trust Adriana. Surely you can just give in. It’ll probably all work out fine. Everything will be alright. You and she can just…
Are these even your thoughts? Is Adriana already contaminating you? Is this fog in your head just because you’re sleepy or is it because, despite her best efforts, she’s about to crush your identity?

You shake your head violently and stare down at the pavement.
“I’ll come back later!”
And then, without looking back even once, you run for your life.

*****

You don’t stop running until you’ve left Apocalypsis behind, at which point you lean up against a wall to catch your breath and in doing so, choke back a terrified sob. Did you make the right decision? Why did you want it so badly? And why can’t you stop wanting it?
Why does it have to be the one person whom you can never have? It could have been anyone else. But Adriana, the only person in all the world who you know can see you for you without the curse getting in the way...why does it have to be her?

You wish there was something you could do. Something to make her yours or, better yet, something to boil away this terrible yearning that now lives within your heart. The warmth of this morning is already so far removed from you and you feel its absence like an ache. Why shouldn’t you be able to wake up like that every day? Why isn’t it allowed? But it can’t be. It can never be. And all that’s left is the knowledge of what you can never have.

Maybe you and Adriana could have been something beautiful. You’ll never know. And the knowing of it hurts you worse than a death at her hands ever would.

*****


You wind back home, sitting on your bed. You try not to remember what you could have had and fail. You try to ignore the feeling like you’re bleeding out inside and you fail that too. Your fingers trace the fresh scar all along your neck. Adriana had helped you forget that.
You feel upset. You feel sick. You’d tried to grasp the rose but ended up with a fist full of thorns instead.

How foolish of you to have ever assumed that romance was for you.


>Find someone else.

>Throw yourself into your training.

>Isn’t Sabino’s thing today? You need to find a partner for that.

>It’s been enough time. Go back and visit Adriana again.

>Lie in bed and try to sleep the day away.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3096951
>>Isn’t Sabino’s thing today? You need to find a partner for that.
Maccio
>>And snap out of it with the downie debby shit
>We lost, yes, it sucks, yes. we might need to save up for another full treatment to fix this once we beat this fucker again some time in the future. But Adrianna likes us for who we are. Romance or no. So stop it with the moping and move on with our life. Bad things happen, you either die or move on.
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>>3096951
>Isn’t Sabino’s thing today? You need to find a partner for that.
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>>3096951
Welp. This is bittersweet.

>Throw yourself into your training.
Let's exercise it out.
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>>3096951
>Isn’t Sabino’s thing today? You need to find a partner for that.
Gloriana
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>>3096975
Maybe you shouldn't have fled immediately.

>Isn’t Sabino’s thing today? You need to find a partner for that.
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>>3096982
>Maybe you shouldn't have fled immediately.
I 100% prefer this situation than what could have happened.
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>>3096988
Sure, but you the option to do a more tactful retreat was there.

>>3096982
>>3096951
Also forgot to link my vote.
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Vote called, writing.
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>Isn’t Sabino’s thing today? You need to find a partner for that.

Blegh. One thing’s for sure though and that’s that you’ll never feel better by just sitting around and sulking about it. You can’t afford to lose the whole day to sorrow, not when you’ve got Sabino’s ceremony coming up! He’s finally being accepted into the Rose Blossom Ring as a full member and he even invited you! An invitation that you semi-graciously accepted so you pretty much have to go.
So that’s it! You’re going to attend the commencement ceremony for the man who thoroughly humiliated you the last time the two of you duelled. The ceremony that he earned by trampling you underfoot. Try not to think about it.

The important thing is to put all this behind you. Your loss to Sabino, the situation with the mirror still trapped within the curtain, your loss and execution at the hands of Signore Terenzi, your inability to save your client, Giuseppina’s total failure to lift the curse she placed on you, the morning with Adriana...there’s a lot. You’re not going to deny that. But it’s hardly the worst thing that’s ever happened to you.
Did Imma d’Ambrosia ever falter over something as meagre as this? Well...yes, she did. She moped quite a lot, forever haunted by her doomed romance. But she’s a romance protagonist so she’s allowed to. You’re a real person and that means that every now and then you have to do basic life shit, no matter how gloomy you might feel.

You’re allowed to take one person with you to the event. Whomever you ask will be unable to tell you that they can’t come. So it’s your choice.


>Leonarda

>Maccio

>Vespa

>Adriana

>Gloriana

>Zuana

>Lapo

>Terenzi

>Someone else (More options)
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>>3097064
>Gloriana
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>>3097064
>>Maccio


>>3097067
Why her?
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>>3097070
Because I want more Gloriana screentime.
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>>3097064
>Leonarda
Haven't seen Nards in awhile.

Normally I'd ask one of the Adriana's but I think everyone needs to cool off for a day.
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>>3097064
>Maccio
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>>3097080
While I like nards too, I don't think this'd be a good place for her.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3097160
does Monkey Sight still work if Sofia enters 2v2 games with Maccio?
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>>3097185
Yes but only if she is comprehensively the victory. Sorry about the delay on this one by the way, computer just froze.
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Computer keeps freezing but I think it’s finally stopped.

>Maccio

You haven’t seen Maccio for quite some time now. And he might be just what you need to clear your head. He’d love to come with you to a fancy Ring ceremony, wouldn’t he? And maybe you’ll be able to talk to him about painting and the things that you see when you look out at the world with his eyes. Maccio can be, with only one exception, relied upon .

So you just need to get in touch with Maccio and therein lies the problem. You’ve never actually reached out and contacted him before. It’s always been him coming to you. But you know where his family lives, you’d have to, considering the threat you once made to his older brother. But what would he really appreciate you just marching up and invading his family home?
You don’t know. It’s not like he’d tell you.

But anything less direct might take too much time…


>Just go there and barge your way in.

>Send a message and hope he reads it in time.

>Sneak in.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3097357
>Other (Specify)
Walk up to the front, knock on the door and ask to see Maccio. That thing normal people do.
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>>3097357
I support being a normal person. >>3097364
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>>3097357
This >>3097364
And get a scarf or a choker to hide our scar.
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>>3097357
>>3097364
This

>>3097370
Why hide it? Shit happened. We can hopefully remove it once we’ve gotten it avenged. Which given the fuckstick who gave it to us likes kicking people when we they are down? We’re likely going to face him again sooner or later.
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>>3097388
>Why hide it?

Because we're a normal person who has emotional reactions to events, such as embarrasment, anger, and wishing to forget it ever happened.
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>>3097370
I'll second the scarf
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Vote called, writing.
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>Just be a normal person for once in your life.
>You should probably change your clothes.

Or you could just walk up to the front door, knock and ask to see Maccio. Why wouldn’t you do that? It’s the normal thing to do. Not everything has to be an absolute burden or chore. You’re not sure why it didn’t occur to you. Are you just that used to having to rely on your curse to ease your passage?

*****

The d’Rosarre estate is on the edge of Aevum, near where it overlaps with the other two of the Three Virtues. It’s much bigger than the house you used to live in, a palatial mansion of soft red brick. Not quite the Casa d’Zaffiro but that’s hardly a black mark. Standing before it’s gates, you feel rather small. But that doesn’t stop you rapping on them and waiting for the doorman to notice you.
“Yes?”

“Hello! Is Maccio home? I’m here to see him.”

“Do you have an appointment?”

“No.”

“He does not like to be disturbed by strangers. You’ll have to wa-”

“Look buddy, just tell him that Signorina Pseudonym is here to see him. He should know what that means and he’ll come right down. Is that okay? Are you going to refuse me?”
You look around nervously, eying the curtained windows above. You don’t want to be spotted by someone who recognises you, you’re just trying to do things like a normal person would. Being confronted by Paolo or the like would just overcomplicate things.

“Of course Signorina.”
The doorman finds himself unable to contradict you and in his confusion, decides to just do what he said he was going to do. The gate grinds shut once more.

As you wait outside, you inspect your reflection on the canal. It’s scattered with petals but you can make yourself out pretty clearly. Your reflection is still looking at the gate but other than that, it matches you exactly.
And that includes the outfit you’ve decided to wear to Sabino’s ceremony.


>It’s just your duelling outfit. What else would be suitable for a duellist’s event?

>You’re wearing a scarf to the hide the scar. You don’t want to talk about it, not now.

>You’ve decided to dress fancy and buy a proper formal outfit.

>You’re actually dressed down, back in your casual training attire. It’s not like anyone is going to complain about you.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3097488
>>It’s just your duelling outfit. What else would be suitable for a duellist’s event?
>>You’re wearing a scarf to the hide the scar. You don’t want to talk about it, not now.
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>>3097488
>It’s just your duelling outfit. What else would be suitable for a duellist’s event?
>You’re wearing a scarf to the hide the scar. You don’t want to talk about it, not now.
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>>3097488
>>You’re wearing a scarf to the hide the scar. You don’t want to talk about it, not now.
>>You’ve decided to dress fancy and buy a proper formal outfit.
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>>3097488
>It’s just your duelling outfit. What else would be suitable for a duellist’s event?

>You’re wearing a scarf to the hide the scar. You don’t want to talk about it, not now.
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Vote called, writing.
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>It’s just your duelling outfit. What else would be suitable for a duellist’s event?
>You’re wearing a scarf to the hide the scar. You don’t want to talk about it, not now.

You’re dressed in your newly tailored duelling outfit, as if you were travelling to meet with a client. To tell the truth, you’d been unsure about what to wear to a ceremony such as this. Sabino didn’t specify anything and you haven’t been to anything fancy for a fair few years. But surely nobody would fault you your duellist ensemble! As for now, it’s the best piece of finery you own and it’s a duelling event! You’re going to show up on-theme.
You’ve made one small change however. You’ve fished out an old scarf from somewhere in the pile of clothes scattered all over the floor back home that passes for your wardrobe and you have it wrapped around your neck. It doesn’t go well with the rest of your outfit but you don’t give a shit. You don’t want to have to field questions about your scar all day. Just thinking about it brings up twinges of frustration. Terenzi didn’t have to do that to you.

You’re still thinking about that when you hear the gate swing open and a familiar voice rings out.
“Sofia! To what do I owe the pleasure?”

You turn around and look up. And then up some more. Maccio is the tallest person you’ve ever met. If you can judge from his brothers, you’d wager that he comes from a tall family but even among them he is a giant. At seven and a half feet tall, he’s two feet taller than you and so the ensuing embrace that you are both unable and unwilling to escape from crushes you up against his abdomen.
“Blegh!,” you say when he releases you.

“Oh sorry,”he says, crouching down to see you eye to eye. His long hair, longer than yours, is unbound for once and cascades around the hard lines of his face in a chaotic mess of black curls. Soft green eyes stare out over the rim of a pair of half-moon spectacles, acting as a counterpoint to every other impression his huge muscled body gives off.
“It’s just that I didn’t know if I was ever going to see you again.”

“Oh?”
It’s all you have to say, otherwise too occupied drinking up the sight before you. It’s impossible to get used to Maccio’s presence. You have to stare for quite a long while to even see all of him. Or at least, that’s how you justify it to yourself.
He’s dressed simply in a long black tunic that’s belted into a skirt over a pair of breeches whose fastenings along his thighs and ankles allow them to trace the contours and muscle defintion of his legs just tightly enough to get your attention. He has a messy painter’s smock folded up in the crook of one arm.

“I abused your trust. And after your duel with that shameless woman...you handled it with exceptional grace.”

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>>3097738

That’s right. You had abandoned Maccio without warning to chase off after your godmother and got thoroughly drunk with her, after which you never found him again. Whoops. He must have thought that you were still angry with him!
“Oh no, it’s not that. That was something else. Say Maccio, would you like to spend the day with me?”

“Pardon?”

“I’ve been invited to the commencement ceremony of a ...professional colleague of mine. It’s in an hour or so. Would you like to come as my partner?”

“In an hour? Sofia, you are excellently timed. Of course I can come.”

“I’m not interrupting anything, am I?”

“Just a little landscape work. I’ve been painting my view from the window every day to try and practice my realism.”

You’re about to chime in with something about how that sounds boring but then you remember the pair of spectacles in your handbag. You know how to see with Maccio’s eyes. He sees the world in a vastly different way than you do, finding beauty and creativity in every misplaced detail. You don’t want to insult his work.
“Oh good. I’d like to paint with you sometime Maccio. I mean, not right now obviously but, you know, sometime.”

Maccio rises and leans back on the gate, the top of it barely shoulder-height to him.
“And what kind of ‘partner’ shall I be coming as?”

“Eh?”

“Recall the genera decorum of the thing, Sofia. I’m not a guest here, I’ll be the guest of a guest and they don’t just let you bring anyone. They’ll want to know the relationship between you and I. And to be frank, so do I.”


>”You’ll be coming as one of my dearest friends.”

>”it can be a ...date, if you want. If you think that’s cool.”

>”You’re someone I know from work.”

>”You’re my student, in a way. Have you kept up with that training regime I showed you?”

>Other (Specify)
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>>3097741
>”You’re my student, in a way. Have you kept up with that training regime I showed you?”
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>>3097741
>>>”You’ll be coming as one of my dearest friends.”

I'd have voted for Date if we didn't just run from a heart-ripper of a situation.
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I've got something I've got to do. So this vote will be left open for an hour or two.
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>>3097741
>”it can be a ...date, if you want. If you think that’s cool.”
I'm voting for this exactly BECAUSE we did just run from a heart-ripper of a situation
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>>3097741
>>>”You’ll be coming as one of my dearest friends.”
dial down the autism boys
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>>3097741
>>”You’ll be coming as one of my dearest friends.”
>Or .. a date.

It's a circle of female duelists, that if you were interested in having a model, you could perhaps ask about without having to my birthright intrude. Seeing the world as you do I know you're a good artist.
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>>3097741
>>”it can be a ...date, if you want. If you think that’s cool
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Vote called, writing.
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Wait nevermind, disregard that, vote isn't called. It's technically a tie still one vote is for both.
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>>3098072
Can’t it be both? Like we’re friends,obviously, and Sophia wants romance but both between family issues and our birthright...
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>>3098099
Fair enough. Vote called.
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Whoops. I fell asleep accidentally. But I’m awake now.

>”You’ll be coming as one of my dearest friends.”

What should your answer be? The situation that had occured this morning only makes the answer all the harder to see. Why couldn’t it be a date? Why couldn’t you stuff a Maccio-shaped peg into an Adriana-shaped hole?
But that wouldn’t be fair to him. And that’s not even to say that you wouldn’t want to date Maccio, you totally would. You’d date almost anyone, that’s sort of the problem. But if you ever come to know Maccio in such a way, you’d want it to be for his sake, not just to replace someone else. That wouldn’t be good for anyone involved.
“That’s a very good question, Maccio. You’ll be coming as one of my dearest friends.”
What does it say about you that he counts for that? Most of your old friends vanished with your old life and the way they did so makes you think that they had never been your friends at all. They’d just been held in chains by your curse.

He smiles and you don’t know if it is truthful or not.
“It warms my heart to know I am such. Shall I go get changed into something more suitable?”

You think back to Maccio’s eclectic sense of fashion and then contrast it with his current outfit, casual but fashioned fine enough that it looks better in its pure black-and-cream simplicity than anything you own. You also note how casually it reveals the chiselled contours of his body in a way that’d look understated for anyone who wasn’t Maccio.
“...No, you’ll be fine. It’s a duelling event, right? Duellists prefer practical clothing.”

“If you say so. Shall we go?”
He extends a hand and you take it, feeling your hand engulfed in his. You look like a child in comparison to him but then again, so does everyone else. He takes short and slow strides so as not to pull you along.

“I believe it’s customary to link arms with a lady you are escorting,” you say playfully, trying to banish away the darker thoughts of moments before.

“I would but I fear it would be a most lopsided experience.”

“Hah.”

A minute or so of silent travel through the clean and gleaming streets of Aevum later, Maccio speaks once more.
“So where are we going? What’s it for?”

“My friend is celebrating his commencement into the Rose Blossom Ring. I don’t exactly know what it entails but there’ll hopefully be food and drink that we don’t have to pay for.”

“I could pay for you, if I must.”

“No you won’t.”

“The Rose Blossom Ring, eh? I’ve read about them. And your friend is a man?”

“Yes, I know. He’s apparently a bit of a rare case.”

“I’ve heard tell of other men in that Ring but I was told that they had to wear skirts and take the names of women.”

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>>3098272
“I don’t know about that, Sabino wears pants when he duels. I mean, most duellists of either gender do, it’s just more practical. And those that don’t…”
An image flashes through your mind, of scarred legs kicking energetically from beneath an almost indecently short skirt. Gloriana Morello. You grimace and bury your feelings just a little deeper. This is supposed to be a happy occasion.
“He wears makeup though. Something about a rose being beautiful to look upon or something.”

“Their duelling style is focussed on the rose, isn’t it? It’s artistic themes and imagery. Have you ever seen it utilized?”

“You could say that.”
Most Rings are like the duelling profession in general, that is to say, male-dominated. The Rose Blossom Ring is the sole exception and you’re not sure how you feel about that. Obviously you have a vested interest in female duellists in abstract but if what Sabino showed you in the duel meant anything, they did so by establishing an extremely feminine duelling style that they teach to the majority of the Ring. So where did that leave people like you, women who choose more traditionally masculine styles? Are you just excluded from their definition of the duelling femme? Would you even be allowed to join if you qualified?
Maybe you’re just annoyed because that extremely feminine style kicked your arse up and down the length of Casa d’Zaffiro.

Your brief moment of introspection passes unnoticed by Maccio, who seems to be fussing with his own hair with his free hand as he walks. A red ribbon dangles freely from it.
“My clothes might be fine but my hair is a mess. Do you have a comb I could borrow in that handbag of yours?”

“Sure, go for it.”
A comb you don’t use nearly as often as you should. You pass him the metal comb and if it is significantly cruder than the ones he is used to, he makes no note of it as he gets to work. You watch, almost mesmerized, as his unruly hair is timed in less than a minute. A quick twist of his hand later and it is tied back and down his back by the crimson ribbon.
“I wish I could do that. Hey Maccio, do you want to have another race so I can learn how to do my hair that well?”

He laughs, deep and booming.
“Please allow a man a few secrets to call his own.”

“Oh if you insist. I’d rather learn your physique anyway and-hrmm. Maccio, do you mind if I ask what might be a personal question?”
You go ahead without waiting for an answer.
“I can’t help but notice that you only asked about what this was about after you’d agreed to come and we’d walked a while. Am I really that charming that just my offer alone was enough to lure you out before you even knew what it was about?”

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>>3098274

“Yes, you’re as alluring as ever. Just say the word and I’ll go. But less importantly, it is a tenuous situation back at home. I’m glad to be out away from it.”
He goes silent and looks away, which is to say that he stops looking down. That’s all he has to do to stop you from even catching a glimpse of his eyes at this angle. It sounds like a touchy subject.


>Ask about it. Maybe you can be of help to him.

>Don’t. It’s not your business.

>Change the subject to recent events.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3098277
>>Don’t. It’s not your business.
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>>3098277
>Tell him we're willing to help if he wants, but don't ask for details.
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>>3098277
>Don’t. It’s not your business.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3098277
>Ah. Me too.
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>Don’t. It’s not your business.

You decide to complement his silence with your own. It’s none of your business and the same goes for the secret that Ormanno had been blackmailing him over. If he wanted your help, he’d ask. That’s something you need to learn a little better. Sometimes you’ll only make it worse.

So with that in mind, you keep your mouth shut and just let yourself enjoy his company. This day already began terrible, there’s no need to invite further darkness within.

*****

The Rose Blossom Ring is located near the middle of Aevum so fortunately, it’s not that long of a walk. It’s clustered up near several other Ring-grounds, each one visible from several neighborhoods away as rising cylindrical structures competing with one another for attention. Most Ring-grounds are massive amphitheatres housing several ornate duelling grounds open for public viewing. There’s almost always some kind of duel happening, whether it be an actual duel hosted by a duellist with the authority to use the ring or a exhibition match to show off the Ring’s skills and styles to an adoring public.
The Ring-grounds of the Rose Blossom can easily be picked out, the outside of the chalk-white amphitheatre shaped into the unfolding petals of a vast stone rose.

“I’ve always thought this to be rather yonic,” Maccio says conversationally. “I suppose that’s fitting.”

“I think some people just have overactive imaginations.”

The grounds outside the Ring are covered in gardens, stretching in orderly blocks from the wall of the ampitheatre to the very edge of the island within the circular canal that stretches around it like a moat. Pale mauve roses bend down past the edge to drink deeply of the water. It’s a rose garden of course, patterns formed by roses of every possible colour. Red and orange and green and yellow and black blooms all stare up at you from a tangle of thorny stems. The air is thick with the stench and it brings back unfortunate memories.

The Ring is closed off to the public today but you just have to wave the invitation Sabino eventually managed to rustle up for you and the two are you permitted entry, making your way through the honeycomb of outer tunnels that form the outer ring of the colosseum.
You find yourself standing in the middle of a ring of seats, halfway up the amphitheatres wall. The inside of the colosseum is shaped like three circles intersecting, centered around three massive duelling rings floating in the water at the middle. Two of the rings are relatively normal, despite being decorated with ornate stone blooms. The third is unpaved, instead covered with soft earth and row after row of rosebushes. Knowing what you do of their style, you have no doubt that they still duel in it.

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>>3098405
But for now, all three rings are absolutely covered in a throng of people, as are the rows of seats around you. The entire Ring has turned out to celebrate Sabino’s commencement. It’s relatively easy to spot Roses out from amongst the crowd, each woman proudly bearing the silver rose hanging from a chain somewhere prominent upon their person. Some hang from a vest, some from coats not unlike yours, others around necks or hanging between swells of cleavage. You’re particularly good at spotting those last ones. But despite the actual members of the Ring being outnumbered by their guests, it still manages to be predominantly women.
Outfits are all over the place, ranging from outrageously elaborate gowns with more in common with fortications than with clothing to practical duelling outfits like yours and Maccio’s to a few people here and there who are dressed far too casually, though you note that everyone in that state of disarray is a Ring member. You doubt any of the guests would get away with it. It’s a vibrant swirl of colour and in it all, the air around you is a heady mix of rose, sweat and a hundred different kinds of perfume.

Honestly, even if they hadn’t been wearing their sigils or had scabbards dangling from their belts, it still would have been fairly easy to pick out the actual Roses from the other women with your practiced eye. No matter what outfits and images they might pretend to, each and every one of them is a veteran duellist with the physique to match. Most courtesans and pampered ladies don’t have biceps like that.
Wandering around idly with Maccio, currently existing in that limbo where you only know one person at a party and nobody else has even really noticed you’re there yet, you spot a few points of interest among the crowd.

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>>3098406

Higher up along the edge of the colosseum is a curtained box normally reserved for guests of honour. It overlooks the entire Ring-ground and if the curtain’s aren’t drawn back, whomever is within can be seen by everyone else. Sitting within, atop a gilded throne, is a red-haired woman wearing some spruced up version of some kind of military uniform, probably from the Lesser Realms. A rose-tinted jacket buttoned up along the right side and a pair of high-waisted white trousers frame a slender but powerful body and her expression is aloof and commanding enough to freeze the blood in your veins when, as her eyes roam idly across the crowd, she makes eye contact with you for just a split second. She leans forward and looks past you, leaning on her sheathed saber as if it was a cane. And though her jacket is festooned with regalia, dangling aiguillettes and shiny silver epaulettes, she bears no rose sigil. There’s only one woman here who wouldn’t need to declare their Ring status.
And standing beside the woman who is surely the Ringleader of the Rose Blossom is another woman who seems to embody the Ringleader’s exact opposite. Where the other is tall, she is short, where the other is commanding, she is shyly staring at the ground, where the Ringleader looks as if she was etched from stone, she looks as if a wind will blow her away at any moment. She’s wearing a poofy pink-and-black dress that spreads out in several diaphanous layers outside that of the main dress that calls to mind the petals of a rose. It swathes her nearly completely and her long brown hair frames a face that, while also somewhat familiar, seems to embody the very essence of a fragile and vulnerable beauty. A lot of people are staring at her and you can’t blame them.

Down below, one of the rings is being cleared out by a tall and lanky Rose wearing a surprisingly masculine outfit of a sleeveless vest and loose breeches tied around the waist and the ankles. Her blonde hair is shorn short. She’s directing the others aside and tapping the hilt of her sword impatiently. It looks like they’re going to have a few showman duels during the ceremony!

And off in the row of seats below you, you hear the bawdy laughter of a woman sitting atop a barrel of ale in an outfit that she is mostly overflowing. She’s got a pile of coins atop the barrel between her legs and seems to be challenging people to some sort of game. You can’t make out any further detail from this distance.

There are a dozen different such scenes of interest of course, but these are the only ones that interest you. And you can’t see Sabino anywhere!

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>>3098407

>Approach the box.

>See if you can volunteer for a showman duel! You’ll get to show off your moves and maybe even claim a trophy or two.

>Go see if you can join in whatever swindle that girl with the barrel has going. Anywhere there’s a game, there’s a chance to win a trophy for your collection.

>Just mingle for now. No need to call attention to yourself.

>Ask people where Sabino is.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3098408
>>Go see if you can join in whatever swindle that girl with the barrel has going. Anywhere there’s a game, there’s a chance to win a trophy for your collection.
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>>3098408
>Watch some of the duels, be ready to pick out duelists and get them to play whatever is happening at the barrel.
We need to see the move before we can take them.
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>>3098408
>>Go see if you can join in whatever swindle that girl with the barrel has going. Anywhere there’s a game, there’s a chance to win a trophy for your collection.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>Go see if you can join in whatever swindle that girl with the barrel has going. Anywhere there’s a game, there’s a chance to win a trophy for your collection.

“How are you holding up, Maccio?”

“I’m fine. Why wouldn’t I be?”

“Just checking. ‘Cause I’m going to need your help moving through this crowd. Can you be the prow, so to speak?”
In your experience, very few people don’t move out of Maccio’s way.

“Where?”

“Do you see that woman down there? On the barrel? You see how she’s running some sort of swindle?”

“...Yes?”
He sounds a little puzzled.

“Well I want in. I’m down to play.”

“I think I understand. You’re on the lookout for trophies, aren’t you?”

“What can I say? Even if most of the stuff I win outside of duels aren’t useful inside of them, I can always afford to be a more varied person.”
And it’s not like you can learn anything any other way.
“Now, lead the way!”

You vanish behind Maccio as he starts forward, your entire body hidden by his. It’s supremely easy to skip around in his wake as the crowd parts before him. Say what you like about Maccio but he certainly commands attention. You go more or less unnoticed.

The woman on the barrel straightens up as Maccio approaches. She’s wearing a rumpled pair of red breeches, a black frilly blouse with a plunging neckline and a red choker. Her black hair is tousled and spun through with gold thread. She waves at him with a ring-festooned hand.
You can’t spot a rose sigil anywhere.
“Ciao!,” she calls. “Does the big man care to test himself?”

“No,” you say, sidling around him. “But I do.”

The woman shrugs and bends down to tap the barrel she’s sitting on, pulling back up with a tankard of ale.
“Sure thing, sure thing. The rules are simple. You give me a coin and you take a drink. If you’re still sober enough to walk in a straight line afterwards, you win the current pot!”
She gestures crudely at the small pile of coins sitting between her legs.

“...Who are you? You’re not a member of the Ring.”

“And neither are you. I’m a guest, just trying to have a little fun. So why not give it a try? Worse case scenario, you’ve spent a coin for the best ale you’ll ever try.”

You may have misjudged this. Maccio could probably handle it but you don’t have Maccio’s, well, Macciosity. This doesn’t seem like a game you can just try and hope to win.


>Try it anyway! You may have a trick in mind to win.

>”Sure, I’ll be back in a few minutes to try.” Lead Maccio away and quickly use his help to devise a plan to win.

>”I want in on this.” Try and persuade her to let you run this game for a short while. You can be hard to say no to.

>”How about we play a different game instead?”

>Leave.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3098477
>>Try it anyway! You may have a trick in mind to win.
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>>3098477
>Try it anyway! You may have a trick in mind to win.
Don't kill the mood just yet.
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>>3098477
>”Sure, I’ll be back in a few minutes to try.” Lead Maccio away and quickly use his help to devise a plan to win.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3098407
They turned Sabino into a woman
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>>3098515
My thoughts exactly.
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>>3098416
Also this anon has it right. So unless we saw this lady do anything we aren’t getting shitbgot this trophy f we do win. And we’re fucking over our chances to get more too. Great job guys.
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>>3098520
Seeing it beforehand is only required for duel techniques, for what it's worth.
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>>3098523
Given that’s what they were likely wanting? And the fact we can only really pick up shit we’ve noticed? (Like our first crack at Maccio had much different selection than the second) combined with this likely taking us out of the party entirely? Not worth it at all.
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>Try it anyway! You may have a trick in mind to win.

You rifle around through your handbag for a loose coin and flip it towards her.
“Sure, I’ll bite. As long as it’s not poisoned or got anything weird in it, right?”

“No, no humours or nothing. I don’t take part in that kind of business. All you have to do is down the tankard and walk in a straight line.”

“And you’ll give me all those coins?”
Not that you really care about winning money. You’re going to take something much more substantial.
“Then watch this!”

You raise the tankard to your lips and start to drink. A crisp fruity taste fills your mouth and as you continue to drink, you realize that you’ve made a mistake. Whatever this has in it, it’s serious! Your head is already starting to swim. Odds are that if you finish this you’re going to have trouble walking at all, let alone in a straight line.
“This..is a lot stronger than a normal ale.”

“It’s my special brew! But I promise you, there’s no tricks or gimmicks. If you’re stout enough to handle it, you’ll win.”

You probably aren’t.


>Just do it and hope it’ll work out. (Luck dependent)

>Gulp in as much as you can and then pull Maccio (or someone else) in for a kiss. Wash it from your mouth into his.

>Find a way to take a trophy from Maccio before you can finish the tankard.

>Just pour out the tankard right in front of her. What’s she going to do, say anything about it?

>Other (Specify)
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>>3098527
>Just do it and hope it’ll work out. (Luck dependent)
let's get all of Sofia's losses out in one day
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>>3098524
Well that's not really my fault.
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Why didn't you guys at least try to come up with a plan?

The option was right there.
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>>3098527
>>Gulp in as much as you can and then pull Maccio (or someone else) in for a kiss. Wash it from your mouth into his.

Fucking timezones. Sorry Maccio
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>>3098527
>>Just do it and hope it’ll work out. (Luck dependent)
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>>3098527
>Gulp in as much as you can and then pull Maccio (or someone else) in for a kiss. Wash it from your mouth into his.
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>>3098527
>Gulp in as much as you can and then pull Maccio (or someone else) in for a kiss. Wash it from your mouth into his.


>>3098532
She’s going to lose more drunk off her ass m8

>>3098536
Because anons voting are the same idiots who voted in lamplighter and snackcatcher and pisssed away or lead last duel. They vote for instant gratification without thought or plan and fuck everyone and everything up worse for it.
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If this works we should share the bounty with Maccio
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>>3098557
Agreed. Damn shame we didn’t scout duels beforehand to get anything worth a damn.
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>>3098527
>>Just do it and hope it’ll work out. (Luck dependent)
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>>3098527
>>Gulp in as much as you can and then pull Maccio (or someone else) in for a kiss. Wash it from your mouth into his.
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>>3098564
>>3098546
>>3098532
Why are you trying to screw us out of trophies we can actually use? Why are you trying to get us so drunk off the bat we cannot participate in the party at all and waste this opportunity?
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>>3098564
>>3098546
>>3098532
You guys realize that when we fail we won't be able to do other things here right?
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3098573
>>3098576
I think it might be choice fatigue. People get tired of building plans and trying to succeed, so they start voting for the simplest option and hoping the QM carries them.
I know this feeling well. Though I just stop voting in such cases and hope the other players have good ideas.
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>>3098581
>Ouro
>Carrying anyone

These shit for brains ought to know better by now.
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>>3098576
>>3098573
>>3098554
I voted to view duel techniques first, but got completely shot down.

Now, we can't back out without looking like an ass. I don't really have an idea for how to cheat our way through without outing the birthright in a really obvious way, so I'm only betting on Sofia maturing up a little more or learning how to deal with shit without stealing abilities.
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>>3098573
Because you want to suck dicks
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Can't we just say "No, thank you."?

Why do we have to go through with this, it's only a game.
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>>3098596
We could actually back out now, but we've already drunk a little bit. Do you have a party plan with the cup and half-consumed ale?

I dunno, pretend to be drunk and use the rest of the ale to paint a picture, making enough of a funny to graciously lose?
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>>3098593
Ouro literally made it so the only way Sofia learns is either getting it beat into her for years or monkey sight. Trying to literally fuck over the rest of the event because you’ve got a hate boner for her is petty.

>>3098594
Not particularly. You just seem to be a shitter.

>>3098596
We had a chance to back down and still kept going. We’d look like an idiot and the loss of facevwould be worse than us getting drunk off our ass.
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>>3098578
>>3098602
I can rescind my vote if you want, but I don't see the alternative as much better.
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>>3098593
>I voted to view duel techniques first, but got completely shot down.

So you thought: 'Fuck it, let's get wasted so we can't view duel techniques later'?

Didn't try to mitigate anything by coming up with a plan for how to beat this? Just go gung ho?

I'm not sure I understand that thought process. I'm sorry I wasn't awake to second your duel vote, but you shouldn't piss away the whole evening because you didn't get your way.
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>>3098616
I'm going to sleep. I'm sorry I wasn't able to come up with a plan that had more rewards than risks.
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>>3098619
It's alright senpai. Have a good night.
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>Gulp in as much as you can and then pull Maccio in for a kiss. Wash it from your mouth into his.

Well, here goes nothing. This might not be exactly within the spirit of the rules but what’s she going to do? Call you out on it? And if you’d wanted a dignified way out of this you should have planned out something beforehand or tried to challenge her to another game.
And besides, it’s not you who is going to be making the real sacrifice here. That’s Maccio. He probably doesn’t deserve what you’re about to do to him.

You drink deep, downing the rest and ballooning your cheeks to keep it all in your mouth, holding your head forward to stop it trickling it down your throat. You then reach up and tap a confused Maccio on the chest, beckoning him to bend down towards you.
And the moment he does, you fling yourself forward, grab hold of his face with both hands and kiss him on the lips!

It’s your first open-mouth kiss with anyone ever in your entire life. And you’re using it to win a drinking game.

To his credit, Maccio doesn’t struggle. Not even when the floodgates open and you let the booze wash out of your mouth and into his. He’s drinking second-hand. And you won’t stop and you can’t stop. You can feel his lips against yours. And in all that small electric moment, brain washed in drink and lips locked in an almost-perfect seal for the least romantic reasons imaginable, you are happy that it has all transpired this way. This is the right path. It has to be.

And then you break away and Maccio is spluttering and you are walking back towards your would-be opponent, placing each and every step in front of the other in a perfectly straight line.
“Check it. You can keep the coins by the way. I’m not here for anything so trivial.”

“Woah! Congratulations,” she babbles, unable to say whatever she means. You reach in and take your prize.


>A gold thread from her hair.

>A single coin.

>One of her many rings.

>Her choker.

>The tankard.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3098622
>One of her many rings.
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The choker sounds appropriate considering our new scar.
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>>3098622
>A single coin.
I'd take the choker if it was black, that would look well with anything, but this one is red.
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>>3098622
>A single coin.
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>>3098622
>>A single coin.
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Vote called, writing.
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>A single coin.

You reach down between her legs and before she can react, take back the coin you’d just given her. It’s a tarnished silver, a scratch on one side defacing the image of some foreign queen.
“Here, I’ll just take this. You can keep the rest of the pot.”

Stepping back, you weigh the coin in your hand for a moment, still feeling just a little tipsy. You flip it up and watch it sparkle between your fingers. Yes. This has been a learning experience for you. You’ve learned something that only this huckster could have taught you. But what?

Truth be told, you don’t really know much about this woman save for her appearance and what she’s doing. But you can pull from that.


>Nickel Stomach: For as long as you have this coin, you can drink without limit. Alcohol has no effect on you and you won’t get drunk unless you want to. You are also resistant to other forms of ingested poisons.

>Going Bust: She’s a lot more well-endowed than you are, that’s for sure and she makes no attempt to hide it. But appearance is just another skill you can learn.

>Alewife: With this coin comes knowledge and skill. Knowledge and skill about brewing a really good ale, that is. Certainly the kind of stuff you could sell for money.

>Test Your Luck: You’re a pro at games of chance and other such swindles, no matter how well they’re performed. Once per thread you may either reroll a single dice or automatically succeed at a game of chance.

>Drunken Master: Should you choose to get drunk, it is only because it is making you better! Sure it still hinders you in every other way but how can anyone possibly read or predict your patterns when not even you know what you’re going to do next? How can anyone get an insight into your thoughts when you’re not thinking at all? While you are drunk you are impenetrable to all prediction, mind-reading or divination effects.
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>>3098691
>>Test Your Luck: You’re a pro at games of chance and other such swindles, no matter how well they’re performed. Once per thread you may either reroll a single dice or automatically succeed at a game of chance.
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>>3098691
>Test Your Luck: You’re a pro at games of chance and other such swindles, no matter how well they’re performed. Once per thread you may either reroll a single dice or automatically succeed at a game of chance.
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I should note that for the purposes of say, Strike Pools, Test Your Luck can only reroll one dice in that pool and not the whole thing.
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>>3098691
>Nickel Stomach: For as long as you have this coin, you can drink without limit. Alcohol has no effect on you and you won’t get drunk unless you want to. You are also resistant to other forms of ingested poisons.
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>>3098691
>Going Bust: She’s a lot more well-endowed than you are, that’s for sure and she makes no attempt to hide it. But appearance is just another skill you can learn.
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>>3098691
>Test Your Luck: You’re a pro at games of chance and other such swindles, no matter how well they’re performed. Once per thread you may either reroll a single dice or automatically succeed at a game of chance.
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Vote called, writing.
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>Test Your Luck: You’re a pro at games of chance and other such swindles, no matter how well they’re performed. Once per thread you may either reroll a single dice or automatically succeed at a game of chance.

Yeah, learning how to be lucky eh? That doesn’t seem like a bad idea. You could use a little more luck in your life right now to tell the truth. And as long as you’ve got this coin with you, you’ll be as lucky as this lady over here!
Just try to ignore the fact that her luck just failed her.

Maccio is bent double, still sputtering as he coughs up second-hand ale onto the seat beside him. You pat him on the back.
“Thanks Maccio. I could have done it without you but it’s greatly appreciated all the same.”

"I'll be alright," he wheezes. "But we have to talk about this later."

Flipping the coin from hand to hand, you look around to see that you and Maccio have drawn a bit of a crowd. You’re not used to being looked at by so many beautiful people! You don’t even have any makeup on!
Knowing this, you think you’d prefer to change things up now.


>Turn back to the alewife and give her a thumbs up. “If you want this coin back, how about you play me in a game for it?”

>Head on down to the duelling rings.

>Just mingle for a while and talk.

>Search for Sabino.

>Pay the box a visit.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3098780
>Head on down to the duelling rings.
Let's just observe for now.
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It is very late so for now I must sleep. Vote will remain open until I wake, at which point I will resume updates.

Also received some Maccio fanart from Cegremo, though it implies that Sofia is standing on something fairly tall to look at him from that angle.
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>>3098780
Turns out Maccio is obscenely hot. I imagined him more... square faced.

>Just mingle for a while and talk
Why not talk with Maccio now rather than later
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>>3098780
>>Head on down to the duelling rings.
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>>3098780
>>Turn back to the alewife and give her a thumbs up. “If you want this coin back, how about you play me in a game for it?”
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>>3098788
This. Chat with Maccio at the same time.
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>>3098780
>Head on down to the duelling rings.
>Talk with Maccio.
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>>3098780
>>Head on down to the duelling rings
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>>3098803
> though it implies that Sofia is standing on something fairly tall to look at him from that angle.
Maybe he's sitting.
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All this rose motif reminds me of Utena. Is there absurdly feminine looking men spouting about the end of the world and such anywhere?
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>>3098780


>Other (Specify)
Make it up to Maccio. Ask him if there's any place he wants to head to. Dueling ring, mingling with some ladies that caught his eye, garden?
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I'm awake! Vote called and writing, thread resumes soon.
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>Head on down to the duelling rings.

You take Maccio’s hand in yours and quickly leave, leaving the huckster to her games and her crowds. It’s nothing you want. Instead, with Maccio’s implicit permission since there’s no way you’re dragging him anywhere, you head down the rows towards the duelling rings.
“You say you wanted to talk?”

Maccio sits cross-legged on the ground in front of one of the seats in order not to block the view for anyone behind him. It also lets you look him in the face.
“You kissed me.”

“So I did. Trust me, it wasn’t exactly planned.”
You take a seat and watch the short-haired woman organize the duelling ring, motioning for others to step up and challenge her. It’s a showman duel so the Wake’s not involved. As a result, she and any of her potential opponents must keep their sabres sheathed and use wooden swords instead.

“I know why you did it. But I’d like to know about the feelings behind it, if any.”

“Is that so?”
Are you being mean to Maccio with this sort of stuff? You hadn’t really thought about it. And of course, he’ll never say so. But what about your resolve not to drag him into the wreckage left behind by Adriana? Have you recovered already?


>”Didn’t I already answer this question? You’re one of my best friends.”

>”Nothing important.”

>”What do you want it to be?”

>”It’s just a kiss, come on.”

>”What else could it mean?”

>Other (Specify)
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>>3099652
>”What do you want it to be?”
Queue Sofia attempt at being suave.
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>>3099652
>It was pretty nice. Look I told you before I like Romance, and given how my birthright works I totally cannot ever misinterpret things, nope not ever. Nor could I be overly forward.
>But between said Birthright and the fact you have Family issue like I, once did before I broke away from them, I did not want to impose.
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>>3099652
>"Hey I don't just kiss anybody, even if the drinking game excuse was there. So you know..."
>”What do you want it to be?”
>"I'm not very good at telling how people feel about me, for obvious reasons."
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>>3099659
This.

Let's take this slowly.
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We just ran from romance with Adriana and promised to come back to what we know was a love confession and now we're flirting with someone we spend a lot of time with.

Sofia is a terrible person. I haven't felt like this much of a shitstain since Lamplighter. And Snakecatcher before that.

Maybe we really are horrible people.
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>>3099692
We promised to come back not that we could be lovers, which isn't happening for very good reason.


Sofia may be a terrible person, but I don't think flirting with the giant hot guy she's been attracted too since the duel is a flaw.


AS for the other quests?

Lamplighter went straight into shitty person the second we nuked the city all to make our lives easier. Unsurprinsigly it did not, and any anon advocating for it seriously went lol suckers and laughed at the shit they caused.


Snakecatcher was doomed the second the voters decided the snake pussy was more important than anything else.


I staunchly called out against both but was yelled down by the mob each time.
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>>3099692
The issue is we can't be with Adriana without dying. That's a fact. We could have handled that last goodbye a hell of a lot better but we aren't abandoning her. We just can't really be an item like both of them see to want.

On the flipside here, most of these options seem like complete friendzones that are hard to come back from and I don't want to close this door in a matter of speaking. I'm not saying we jump his bones or anything, just put the idea out there.

That said I do agree that it feels way too soon, but shit all of these options suck.
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>>3099692
We're horrible people all right. This is a game where things are done by majority post, the majority will choose the stupid option. I'm a little surprised by some of the choices anons are making given we just got a love confession in the very beginning of this thread.

In any case I'm not too keen on a romance with Adriana. I was always on team Maccio.

Also, even if we did decide to reject all romantic relationships with others and focused on Adriana. It's pretty clear that Adriana will one day lose her self control and we'll have an additional 10th Adriana running around one day.

Unless we found some sort of alternative or ability to block her from our minds to be with her.
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>>3099732
>Unless we found some sort of alternative or ability to block her from our minds to be with her.

Maybe we should ask our godmother about that sometime.
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>>3099692
>We just ran from romance with Adriana and promised to come back to what we know was a love confession and now we're flirting with someone we spend a lot of time with.
Right now Adriana romance is a no-go if Sophia wants to stay alive. That has got to hurt.

As much as I want Sofia and Maccio to end together, this almost-date feels like Sofia wants to get over what happened last night (And using Maccio to do so).
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>>3099740
>6' vs 5'11"
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>>3099732
>Unless we found some sort of alternative or ability to block her from our minds to be with her.

Nobody voted for Drunken Master anyway.

>>3099740
D'awwww.
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>>3099748
>Nobody voted for Drunken Master anyway
While that is hilarious a relationship where we can only be drunk most of the time doesn't seem like a great.
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>>3099748
>Nobody voted for Drunken Master anyway.
I quit.

Enjoy your quest, guys.
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>>3099750
Same opinion here, a relationship that only works around your loved one if you're drunk is completely unhealthy
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>>3099753
Huh?
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>>3099760
He's sour that we are crappy players that chose the most emotionally idiotic option.
Also, I was away so I didn't get to vote for Drunken Master if it was a way to block our thoughts from Adriana. But it's not great since a drunk for a girlfriend would be terrible for Adriana.
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For the record, I'm not suggesting that it would have been a good ability for any sort of long-term relationship nor do I think you guys made a bad choice with what you chose instead.
That comment was a joke.
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>>3099652
>>”What do you want it to be?”

>Other (Specify)
I wanted to win so badly... I couldn't think of another way.
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>”What do you want it to be?”

You completely lose track of whatever you had intended to say. Why do you feel like there’s a pressure building up inside your head right now? Do you...do you want this? Do you really want to do this with Maccio today? You don’t know.
“What do you want it to be?”
It wasn’t meant to be that serious!

“I-”


You get your head together and interrupt him. You want to tell him that you almost never know how other people truly feel.
“Look Maccio, I know what everyone feels about me. I know what you feel.”
Fuck! That’s not what you meant at all!

“I know you do.”
Why can’t Maccio be able to read your mind? That made everything so much easier.

You make another stab at it.
“I can never misinterpret anything. And neither can I ever be too forward. There’s nobody that doesn’t want me. But...understand that I don’t want to impose.”
Can he see your true meaning?

“Oh, no matter who you ask I doubt you’ll find anyone who’ll say that you’ve ever imposed anything.”

“I know.”
That’s the problem.
“I know what you want. Me, right? I mean, uh….Look, whatever you want it to be, don’t answer that question. Just think about it. And keep thinking about it. And only come back and tell me that the answer is me once you’re sure of it.”

He says nothing. Good. Words are astoundingly useless here. Actively detrimental even. The two of you should judge one another by their actions alone. So in that case...what exactly have you been telling Maccio with yours? You’ve brought him on what is possibly a date. You’ve kissed him. Of course he wants to know what your intentions are!
Well he can join the club because you don’t know either. You’re a hot mess right now and you’re not thinking straight.

The silence drags on. Surely there must be something you can say or do to make this better.


>Introduce him to some other women. They can model for his paintings! He can spend the rest of the day with them!

>”I just wanted to win the game okay!”

>Focus your full attention on watching the duel.

>Wander off somewhere else.

>Kiss him again.

>Tell him about Adriana.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3099854
>Other (Specify)
Grab his hand, squeeze and give him a smile. Actions, not words right now.

"Let's enjoy the rest of the day and watch some girls hit each other with sticks."

Well some words.
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>>3099866
>>3099854

Yeah, this.
Also, as players let try not to do anything so emotionally outrageous as kissing people for no good reason? Our curse makes it ... open to misinterpretation
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>>3099866
This.
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Vote called, writing.
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>Other

There’s nothing you can say to resolve this situation. Hadn’t you just established that? But there might be something you can do. So you instead you just reach out and place your hand in his once more. You give it a squeeze and smile up at him.
Words are lies, even when the curse isn’t involved. What had Maccio told you the last time you were together? You are the sum totality of what you do and nothing more. So you’ll put your faith in actions over words and hope that he understands you through that alone.

And wouldn’t you know it, he squeezes your hand back. You look up into his eyes and gaze into the void. It’s just as unpassable as ever. But you can paint over it with any colour that you want and sometimes you just have to. So you’ll close your eyes to the void and say it’s a pleasant day instead. And who knows? Maybe it really is.

“Let’s enjoy the rest of the day,” you say. “Watch some girls get hit by sticks.”

He doesn’t let go.
“Are you planning on joining in?”


>”Yes but only after I’ve seen what she can do.”

>”No. I’d rather sit here with you.”

>Other (Specify)
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>>3099957
>”No. I’d rather sit here with you.”
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>>3099957
>I might, I might not. I still need to find and make the courtesy hello to Sabino at least. But for now, women hitting other women with sticks.
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>>3099957
>Other (Specify)
Maybe but I'm hoping to see the man of the hour. His name is Sabino, I think you'll like him
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>>3099966
>>3100019
Voting for this.
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>>3100019
God I really, really hope he isn't the scrawny girl we saw next to the leader person.
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>>3100039
Pffft hahahahah! Sorry, I just imagined that right now. No wonder he so teasable.
I guess he really enjoys dressing up. There's nothing wrong with that, I bet Sophia is going to feel super jealous that he longs even more feminine than her and had won the duel
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>>3100044
Whoops typo.
longs = looks

But I got weird echoes of Utena and the Rose Bride when iron lady and girly girl was described earlier.
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>>3100039

You're suggesting that the leader didn't jump at the opportunity to engage in "couple cosplay" with her favorite toy during his initiation.

Face it, he looks good in a dress.
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>>3100044
>>3100051
You assume they did not forcefully genderbend him to make him a full member of the Roses.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3100044
Call it a hunch, but I don't know if he enjoys the shit the leader has him go through.

But then again he could have chosen to go to another group couldn't he have?
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>>3100051
... Does Sabino even enjoy dressing up as a women? I'd hate to realize he's being forced to by someone he cares for.
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>>3100054

I doubt that. His utility as a toy diminishes greatly in that situation.

Although I wouldn't be 100 percent certain this isn't an devastating prank: take a young and impressionable duelist, play with him while he's still a kitten and turn him out right before he stops being cute.
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>>3100061
Every time the leader got brought up the kid winced like an abused puppy. I'm not going to pretend to understand the depths of their relationship but I'm not 100% if he cares for her or not.
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>>3100102
I guess we shall have to endeavour to treat him with dignity since he's getting none.
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>>3100107
That's going to mean no headpats or any condescending actions.

Can we handle that!?
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>>3100133
Well, it's going to depend on what sort of person you want Sophia to be.
A bullying jerk with no empathy for his situation or good person who hopes that one day Sabino will tell the Leader to take her rose and shove where it don't shine... maybe he'll let us pet him in private if no one is looking?
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>>3100133

Of course; the moment someone else does it, we're going to suddenly conclude it's gauche and below us to abuse him that way.
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>>3100142
I was being a tad facetious

>>3100144
Hah, too true.
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>Sabino!

“I might, I might not. Probably not though. Right now I’m kind of hoping to find the man of the hour. His name is Sabino and I think you might like him.”
You’ll refrain from mentioning how much of a cutie he is in front of Maccio, especially since you now suspect that this feeling might be somewhat compelled. You should at least try to respect him even when nobody else does.
Also your reflections apparently had sex so that basically makes you two in some sort of esoteric relationship, right? You’ll have to approach this carefully.

“You already told me his name. How did the two of you meet in the first place?”

“It was over a case. He was on probation at the time, a plucky young prodigy aching to prove himself. That’s why I let him win.”

“I see. Have you seen him?”

“No, not yet. At this point I think I’m just going to ask someone. Do you want to come with me?”

“Of course. I’m not particularly personally interested in the duelling game.”

“Right. Give me a moment then.”
You pull aside a passing lady, eyes latching onto the silver rose dangling down her bodice.
“Excuse me, I’m looking for Sabino? The guest of honour?”

Beautiful eyes narrow. There’s so much makeup here that you feel almost naked.
“Sabino?”

“Yeah, he invited me you see. So I want to have a chat while I’m here.”

Ah. They’re up there in the box.”

“That makes sense, makes sense. Are they at the back or something? I don’t see him.”

She just laughs coyly and effortlessly pries herself free.
“Try getting up there and giving it a closer look.”

It doesn’t take long to work your way back up the colosseum towards the box. Maccio is, as always, an excellent prow. And so before long you’ve breached the steps and are standing on the platform just below it. The two women you spotted earlier are still both here and are both magnetic to the eye.
The Ringleader is beautiful but in a sense that you’d call striking.Her makeup only accentuates the sharp edges that she doesn’t even bother to hide. Her red hair is bright where yours is dull and though she’s sitting down she has to be at least six feet. Maybe even taller than your godmother!
You vaguely recall telling Sabino that you’d love ‘a taller woman treating me like sexy garbage’. Somehow, all that feeling is personified in the woman before you, as if you were always speaking about her before you even knew who she was. She could probably knock you off your feet with a glance.

The other woman is beautiful but vulnerably so, like a flower that you must protect. She’s an inch shorter than you, though she’d seemed shorter from further away and she’s young. Granted, the Ringleader looks young too but in a sort of ageless ‘has probably had a lot of body tailorings’ sense. This girl, in her beautifully made face and her silly but expansive dress, just radiates a welcoming fragility.
1/2
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>>3100278
She looks nervous and vaguely worried which instead of disconcerting you, it just makes you want to go up there and tell her that everything’s going to be okay. Maybe even pat her on the head.

They’re both occupied with talking to others within the box so neither of them even seem to notice you. If they look your way they’re looking at Maccio.
And though you scan the crowd of sycophants in the box several times, you can spot neither hide nor hair of Sabino. Where is he?


>Approach the Ringleader.

>Approach the Ringleader’s companion.

>Maybe he’s out behind the box, in the passages. You can probably find your way around there…

>Other (Specify)
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>>3100279
>>Other (Specify)
Knock and announce yourself.

We should state our business and try to see where Sabino is. Gotta give him our congratulations
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>>3100279
>Maybe even pat her on the head.
...

>Approach the Ringleader’s companion.
Let's get it over with boys. Rip that bandaid off. Man this is going to be awkward.
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>>3100279
>Use context along with what the lady and Maccio said.
>Realize that the Ringleader's companion may in fact be Sabino.

I know it's for the players benefit, but man, Sofia ain't the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree, is she?
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>>3100291
It's why I wrote my post as if sophia has no clue.
It's pretty damn obvious to us where Sabino is just not to sophia
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>>3100304

We should be careful that there may be ritual going on here. Observe decorum.

>Approach the Ringleader.
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>>3100279
>Realize sabino is possibly the companion from maccio's comments and her face being oddly familiar
>Approach the duo as policy and common courtesy dictates.
>knock first.
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>>3100279
I'll also second to approach as common courtesy dictates. Whatever that might be in this Fae land.

If Sabino is just being forced to crossdress and not actually a girl now we really need to take him out drinking or something masculine.
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>>3100348
... What would be masculine enough to make up for this though. Take Maccio, Sabino and Lanzo somewhere to play something like billiards in a smokey bar somewhere, drink fine scotch and smoke cigars?
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>>3100358
Yes. We can't make up for everything that's happening but that's a start.
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If we got the nickel stomach, wouldnt we be able to challenge all duelists ever to drinking contests?
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>>3100377
I'd rather not, we're a duelist, not a competitive drinking sot
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>>3100382
Hey, as long as you collect enough techs to win....
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>>3100279
I'll change my vote to

>>3100319
since courtesy is nice.
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Vote called, writing.
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>Approach her companion.

You’re unsure of what the decorum here is so in lieu of that, you decide to visit yourself upon the most approachable one instead. That is, of course, the Ringleader’s companion. You climb up into the box and, with Maccio just behind you, make your way over to the soft-looking girl.
“Oh hello. Do you mind if I ask you something?”

She turns to look at you and she does, her eyes light up with sudden recognition.
“Sofia? I was starting to think you weren’t coming!”
Her voice is a trilling falsetto, the squeaky kind that’s almost a little too high-pitched to be real.

And the moment you hear that, the moment you see her response, long-obvious facts connect themselves in your mind. The girl’s demeanour, her familiar look, what Maccio told you earlier...it’s Sabino! It’s Sabino and yet this petite maiden is also undoubtedly a woman.

She smiles and curtsies.
“What’s wrong? Aren’t you going to introduce me to your friend?”

“Sabino?,” you say quietly. “You are Sabino, right?”

She gives you a pained look so cute that you just want to give her a hug.
“Not here, Sofia. I forgot you wouldn’t know. Here I’m Sabina.”

“H-have they done something to you?”

She laughs.
“What? No! It’s just that this is the Rose Blossom Ring, you know. And as members we’re free to depict ourselves however we like but when we’re at official Ring functions...there’s a standard that we all must adhere to. Nothing’s been done to me, I haven’t changed, it’s just that right here and right now, I’m a woman. I’ll be a boy after the ceremony is over.”

“Ah. And there are others like you here then?”

“A few! You didn’t notice them, I assume? They’re all very pretty girls and some of them try harder than others. Why, some of them even stay like it outside of ceremonies.”
She shakes your hand.
“Thank you so much for coming, by the way. I wasn’t sure if you would.”

“Well this is fine. I was just worried it was something weird. This is Maccio by the way.”

“Charmed,” Maccio says, bending down to offer his hand to the dimunitive girl. Sabina takes it and then shies away.

“You’re...very large.”

He shrugs.
“I get that a lot.”


>Ask Sabina about the Ringleader.

>Ask her about her mentor.

>”So what else are we doing today?”

>”Care for a rematch down in the showman duels?”

>”And you’re fine with this? It’s not forced on you or anything?”

>Pat head.

>”Want to go get drinks later?”

>Other (Specify)
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>>3100559

>Ask her about her mentor.
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>>3100559
>>Ask her about her mentor.
>Keep it light and friendly.
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>>3100559
>So you have to sit up in the box the entire time?
>So what are these thing usually like?
>Ask her about her mentor.
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>>3100559
>>”And you’re fine with this? It’s not forced on you or anything?”
After making sure nothing is wrong.

>Ask her about her mentor.


>Other (Specify)
Congratulations
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>>3100559
>And you’re fine with this? It’s not forced on you or anything?”
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>>3100581
>>3100559

Actually change this, I'm an idiot. He's not being forced, it's a Rose tradition. He takes it seriously even to the point of wearing make up during our duel. I had forgotten.

Congratulations are in order.
>Ask Sabina about the Ringleader.
>Ask her about her mentor.
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>>3100559
>Ask Sabina about the Ringleader.
>Ask her about her mentor.
>”Want to go get drinks later?”
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>Ask her about her mentor.

Your first instinct is to ask and make sure that she isn’t being forced into this but then you remember the duel the two of you shared. Sabino had taken the traditions of the Ring very seriously. If Sabino had any problems with occasionally being Sabina, he wouldn’t have joined the Rose Blossom Ring. And besides, while she certainly looks nervous, that’s likely due to the ceremony itself. Not to mention that it’s kind of normal for her.
“Congratulations! You’re going to be a full member once this is all done, right?”
A right won by climbing over your defeated body.

Sabina blushes just a little.
“Thank you. It wouldn’t have been possible without you.”

‘Naturally. But where’s your mentor? Your sponsor? You wouldn’t stop talking about her before and now you’re all up in the box alone with your Ringleader.”

She stares at you blankly for a moment before comprehension dawns slowly across her face.
“I didn’t tell you? I could have sworn I mentioned it before. My mentor, Catalina d’Passero, is the Ringleader.”

“Are my ears burning? Shoo, shoo, just a moment.”
The voice is bright and energetic and yet also, beneath it all, utterly uncompromising. An iron fist hid poorly within a velvet glove. You turn as the woman in the throne rises to her feet. It’s as if a statue had moved. She walks over towards you with her sheathed sabre still in hand.
“Is my darling protege entertaining guests of her own without even introducing them to me first?”

“They’re just my frien-”
Sabina stops as Catalina d’Passero, her mentor and lover both, mistress of the Rose Blossom Guild and very likely one of the most elite duellists in all the City, pats her on the head. Her fingers twist through the long brown hair perhaps a little harder than they ought to. Afterwards the hand slides down Sabina’s head, caressing her cheek for just a moment before settling down on her shoulder in an unmistakable display of ownership.

“Hush,” she whispers into her ear, apparently uncaring of the fact that they are both in public. “So this is that Sofia, hm? Oh yes I know all about you. My student is a hopeless pillow talker.”

“Yes,” you say uncertainly, Meeting Catalina’s gaze is just as stifling as you imagined it. It’s as if her very presence carries physical weight. Something instinctual is telling you to sit down, shut up and to listen up because class is now in session.
It’s like...it’s like the hostile architecture techniques of the Magisterium localized within one person.

“Don’t worry,” she purrs, “I’m always willing to share. You’re welcome to her whenever you want.”

Sabina winces, doing her best to appear as if she is retreating from Catalina’s touch without actually moving.

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>>3100821

>”The offer is appreciated.”

>”No thanks.”


>”Take your hands off of her!”

>Quickly change the subject to duelling.

>”This conversation didn’t concern you.”

>Oh no she’s hot.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3100822
>>Other (Specify)
Change subject, pretend to remember that Sabina wanted to show something interesting about the Rose Garden before. This should get her out of lady clutches for a few minutes, then we can discuss things like friends. In private

Privately though think
>Oh no she’s hot.
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>>3100822
>>”The offer is appreciated.”
Because it's polite and this woman could probably end us in a number of ways if she wanted, curse or no curse.
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>Other (Specify)
"You know I've always been of the opinion that this kind of 'ownership' is a bit wrong. You agree don't you?"

>When she says yes because she has to agree with us.
"Maybe now that Sabina is a full fledged member you can ease up a bit you know? I think that's a good idea. You think that's a good idea right?"

Yes I am subtly using the curse to sway her mind on how she treats Sabino a bit. It's dirty, but our boy could use some slack.

>Anyways
>Change the subject to duelling.

If you guys don't agree with doing this I understand, but I think it's worth trying.
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>>3100822
>”The offer is appreciated.”
"Sharing is Caring!"
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>>3100822
>”No thanks.”
>Quickly change the subject to duelling.
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>>3100831
So pretending to agree verbally but in reality not actually agreeing to it?
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>>3100822
>>3100827
Actually, I'm changing my opinion to this


>”Sorry but this conversation didn’t concern you.

>Quickly change the subject to duelling.
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>>3100855
That's the idea. She might take offense to refusal.
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>>3100858
It just rubs me the wrong way. Sabino didn't even get to protest about the way she's basically pimping him out. I'd rather just politely advise that this conversation didn't involve her.

If we can't do that, let's change the subject to dueling because that way it's not an acceptance or a refusal
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>>3100855
Exactly.
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>>3100860
I feel you. I didn't vote for that. I'm voting to twist her mind into laying off a bit. Not sure if it would stick though.
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>>3100860
Saying 'the offer is appreciated' isn't an acceptance or a refusal. We're saying 'We appreciate that you consider us worth the offer.' Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>3100875
Why can't we just dodge the entire issue then by changing the subject then? That way we don't verbally slap Sabino in the face making him think we decided take up on her offer and we didn't accept it either.
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>>3100834

Let's not offer help where it's not requested. Just because Sabino is uncomfortable doesn't necessarily mean he needs rescued. His position in this ring means a great deal to him, and it would be cruel to jeopardize it without warrant.

If you want however; she did give us an in:

"If that's the case, I accept your offer. I will have her company, or I'll take her coy refusal as a complement."

Then turn up a hand, making the decision point a physical one.

My vote is conditional: I want to do this plan if anyone else agrees with it. Otherwise.

>”The offer is appreciated.”
>Quickly change the subject to duelling.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3100912
That's pretty good actually, though I'd rather not give Catalina the dignity of an answer at all. Subtly snubbing her by just changing the subject
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>>3100912
Fair enough. Just bothers me.
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>>3100929

These people trade in dignity and pride. Dealing in that will keep guards down and information flowing.

If we find that Sabino has a serious problem, that's the time when we can consider letting the Tyrant out to play.

Terenzi demonstrated the best application of our power: Carefully allow everyone around us to live undisturbed until they do wrong, then strike them with a power that's inexplicable and inviolable. The fact that our duel went south was unfortunate, but regardless of your thoughts on him, the ability to ambush an social opponent is significantly more useful than enjoying meaningless platitudes from them.

It's also a much more dangerous temptation: We can do incredible amounts of damage to a target if their first experience with our power is when we move to break them with it.

We frankly can do far worse than the Tyrant.

Anyways: Remember kids, Sofia is a good person.
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>>3100822

>Quickly change the subject to duelling.
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>”The offer is appreciated.”
>Quickly change the subject to duelling.

No, you shouldn’t intervene where you might not be needed nor wanted. Sabina certainly looks uncomfortable and to tell the truth, something about the idea about being romantically vulnerable to the person whom you are dependant upon strikes you as a little unfortunate. And you don’t like the idea of Catalina giving Sabina to you as if she was just some toy. That probably shouldn’t be Catalina’s decision to make.

“The offer is appreciated,” you tell her and for a brief moment, you do entertain the notion. Sabina has always been tempting after all. There’s just something about her that draws you in like a fly to honey. And judging by what you’ve seen, it works on a lot of people. You don’t like it. It’s unwholesome.
“So, have you seen the match that this ceremony is commemorating?”
Oh, the things you’ll do for Sabina. She better appreciate this later.

Catalina stares at you with hooded eyes.
“I have. It was an educational experience.”

“And you must be a pretty good duellist yourself, yeah?”
Anything to change the subject.

“Some would say that. Nowhere near as good as yourself, of course.”
She doesn’t look confused or puzzled with herself. She knows.
“I am the matriarch of the Rose Blossom Style and this little morsel’s teacher.”
She pulls Sabina in close, resting her head up against her bosom. The shorter girl just limply concedes to it.

“You must have taught a lot of people,” you say weakly. This ‘distraction’ is proving less distracting than you thought.

“Oh yes. I am an excellent mentor, far more than I am a duellist. I am possessed of an incredible gift for teaching, even for those who don’t want to learn.”

“Really?”

“Recalcitrant students are my favourite kind. The less they want to learn, the more I have to teach them. I’ve duelled many people who thought they were above me and my lessons but there is always something new to learn. Would you like a demonstration?
The ornate rose hilt of her sabre rises an inch as she thumbs it just barely out of her sheath. Is she...is she challenging you?

“Uh.”

“It would honour little Sabina here for her instructor to take part in at least one showman duel during her commencement. Would you be so gracious as to accept?”
There’s no doubt about it. She’s seen right through you and your opinion of her and in turn, is offering an ultimatum of her own. Back down or be humiliated in the duelling ring.


>Accept! You can win this!

>Politely decline and step away.

>”You’re not worthy of me.”

>Back down for now but talk to Sabina later in private.

>Other (Specify)
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On one hand. We are going to be between being utterly destroyed or simply embarrassed.

On the other; This isn't a bad opportunity. We have some idea how the Rose ring fights, and this is an excellent opportunity to experience it's full power.

It mostly depends on how much Sofia is willing to jump back on the horse; because to chose to fight Catalina is to all but chose defeat for the sake of knowledge.

Personally however; I think we should defer to Maccio. We brought him as a guest, and it would be neglecting him to gallivant off to the ring without his thoughts.

And I'm totally not recommending it because it's going to chafe her just a little that we're intentionally leaving the decision to a third party. We let Maccio decide if he'd prefer us staying on his arm or watching a primo catfight.

I think it's win-win... but only if Sofia is willing to jump back into this both feet first.
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>>3101059
>>3101028
Fuck it, I'll second.
>Defer to Maccio if he wants us to do this or not

If yes
>Accept! You can't win this, but you can learn some Rose Ring moves ahead of time in case you fight one again on the job.

If no
>Back down for now but talk to Sabina later in private.
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>>3101028
>>Politely decline and step away.
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Like, okay. This situation would be less harrowing if Sofia wasn't so...Sofia. Why?

Because literally everyone knows she's going to get her ass beat like a bongo drum. The trick here...is to actually not care. Treat it like training, and focus on survival and practice, not actually winning. There's no (actual) shame in losing to an opponent that's so far above you as to be ridiculous, especially if A: the opponent is gracious, B: you are gracious, and C: you actually get something out of the experience.

Unless you're Sofia. Whom in both curse and deed is kind of a massive selfish brat. (Albeit kinda learning, so, points there.)

I kind of want to vote >Agree in a demure fashion, just focus on practice.

But I don't think Sofia can really DO demure and mean it yet.
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I almost wish we had all of Gloriana's moveset for this.
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>>3101059
Basically, I'll back this.
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>>3101028
>I would have thought duel, even a training one, would be beneath the Ringmistress of such an august Dueling club, especially when it comes to a public defender, regardless of their perceived skill and record.
>If you are offering a training duel, however, and my Plus one does not mind, I would be happy to partake of a training duel with you though Signora. Only a fool would seek not to better themselves.
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...I just thought of something. Is tone of voice included in the curse? Can we just start inflecting things with a sarcastic tone when we want people to understand the exact opposite of what we're saying? Well, that wouldn't help the other half of the curse, but still
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>>3101078

PP might work quite well against her if she's tying up her damage in the field hazard. I need to review how exactly Sabino's toys worked.

Underhanded deflection might be good. Of course, we're missing a bunch of toys to make our other toys better.
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>>3101097
Yes it is. Sarcasm turns to sincerity.
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>>3101108
Remember the Rose Garden thing will continually increase the size of the tech dice she can pull so UD might not matter in the long (or short) run.

If she is anything like Sabino, ending this early is the only real way to win. Of course we are doing this for training and she probably has better skills than Sabino, etc , etc
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>>3101108
>Snicker-Snack: [TRICK]Your opponent cannot generate dice into their Technique Pool this round. By the end of the round, if they have tried to, generate a die equal to the largest diee they would have generated this way into your Technique Pool. This Technique cannot be used unless your Technique Pool is empty.


>Ring’s Chosen: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. If you possess the insignia of a duelling Ring and there are no Obstacles present, generate an Obstacle that matches your Ring. At the end of the turn, if the Obstacle was created by this Technique, transform Ring’s Chosen into it’s Ring-specific form.
>ROSE GARDEN TECHNIQUES
>Entangle: [TRICK]Target duellist is now Entangled until they lose a Composure Dice to an opponent’s attack. Trigger: When a duellist makes a Strike that does not damage Composure or when a duellist loses more than one type of Composure dice to a single attack. Cannot target duellists that have already been Entangled this duel.
>Sweet Scent: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into the Technique Pool. Trigger: Only when a duellist starts a turn Entangled.
>Prick: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from Technique Pool into Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. Trigger: When an entangled duellist loses Entangled.
>At the end of the turn, Ring’s Chosen transforms into Thorn’s Embrace!
>Thorn’s Embrace: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. If your opponent is Entangled, increase the size of the d4 by a number of sides equal to the number of d4s in the Rose Garden’s Technique Pool.
>Masterful Blow: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. If no dice are removed from their Composure as a result of this, destroy the single lowest value die in their Technique Pool.
>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.
>Executioner’s Blade: [STRIKE]Wait. Wait. Wait. Generate a d20 in your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. This Technique can only be used if your opponent’s Composure has been broken previously in the duel.
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Vote called, writing.
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Going to sleep. Good luck on the training
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>>3101113
Looking at this

She obviously will have
Ring's chosen
Thorn's embrace
Skin Unthorned
Probably masterful blow too given she IS a master. could be different though.
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>>3101113

There we go.

I think the play is either to go full econ and strike overwhelmingly to end it in a flashing steel while she's busy setting up her Obstacle, or we want to hit her twice: Once to entangle her so that rose garden is a threat to her, then again to hit her with her own ability...

That's assuming she doesn't have a toy that's stronger than Thorn's embrace to guard against that.

PP wasn't deployed against Sabino, and that was a mistake. If she uses Thorn's embrace, we have good options between CG and PP to punish the small number of high value dice she'll gen into her own pool.

UD or GT is essential to activate PP, but UD will have little effect on any moves that she shares with Sabino since it doesn't degrade Rose Garden's tech pool. And Gritted Teeth is mostly useless for us.

This is a strange one, because we almost want to take an early Prick so Rose Garden becomes a threat to only her (Again, barring the possibility that a master of this style has another toy off of their signature move... which is quite likely.)
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>>3101143

That CG is Crushing Grip by the way, not that Circle Guard is out: It again punishes her having large dice.

Please slap me down if I'm getting any of this wrong. We need to be thinking as early and often as we can.
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>>3101147
Both are good techniques.
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>>3099740
That's real cute, but the one line in the middle of the sash makes it look like Sofia has a cut-out in her jacket to display a flabby gut and I can't see it any other way.
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>>3101189
GODDAMN YOU YOU RUINED IT
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>>3101147
Circle Guard plus PP is playing a very dangerous game for econ. We would be commiting to take at least a few strike die, and given the size rose die can reach, just 2 that happen to roll high could end us.

It would, however, drain dice faster than someone like Sabino could generate them.

Circle Guard is good for drawing out a fight and seeing all the tricks anyway. Maybe challenge her to a secondary objective within the duel that were more likely to win, and use that as a pretext for a trophy?
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>>3101208
Like, say, a small game to see who goes first. Audience decides who wins the small game, but we do a coinflip to see who goes first. We can make it seem like we have a tactic that needs one turn at the start, but we really just wanted to take a ttrophy even if we lose the duel itself.
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>>3101223

Can you think of anything we can win that Catalina will agree to knowing our ability?

I feel like she'll toss off anything we suggest, and we can't really pressure her: She'll push forward to the Exhibition quietly or lever Maccio or Sabina to force us to back off.
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>>3101234
Can we use the coinflip itself as the "winning game"?

So the small game is a decoy for the coinflip.
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Thank Christ, the board is alive and postable again.

>Defer to Maccio.

“One would think that a mere practice duel with a public defender, regardless of their actual skill, would be a bit below the Ringmistress of such an august organisation. But if you insist! Just one thing first...it’s not actually up to me to decide. Maccio?”

“Yes?”
He crouches down a little, prompting even Catalina to take a short step back.
“Sorry, this didn’t seem to have anything to do with me.”

“But it does, but it does. You’re my guest Maccio, I’ve effectively promised you my time here. So if you don’t want me to take up this meaningless duel challenge, I won’t.”
You give Catalina a crooked smile. How does she feel, you wonder, about her vaunted challenge being decided by a third party? About your social obligation to Maccio being more important to you than any of her demands? You hope it stings.

“Of course you can,” Maccio says predictably, looking a little nonplussed. “I’m happy just to be outside the house and I can find other people to talk to. You don’t need to worry on my behalf.”

You shrug.
“You heard him! If you want to do it, I’m down. Shall we start right away?”

Sabina tugs at your shoulder. It’s hard to remember that this pretty little thing is a much more adept duellist than you are.
“What are you doing?,” she hisses. “You can’t beat her!”

“Training.”

Catalina seems utterly unperturbed.
“I was unaware that you were so principled, Signorina Pseudonym. Or do you prefer d’Varissi?”

You stop smiling.
>”The former is preferred, thank you.”

>”I think I’d prefer you shutting your mouth.”

>”I prefer Pseudonym, much you like you prefer being called, I don’t know, Shitface or something. Isn’t that right Shitface?”

>Don’t bother giving her an answer.

>Other (Specify)

Additionally,

>Try to get some other type of game going along with the duel, something to give you the chance of getting something even after she wipes the floor with you.

>Just go straight to the duel. You’re not going to lose!

>Other (Specify)
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>>3101246
>>”The former is preferred, thank you.”
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>>3101246

>"That's no longer my name. You can sully your tongue with it as much as you want."

>Let's play a game. A game of chance if you would.
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>>3101246
>>”The former is preferred, thank you. You need not sully their name for my sake.”

>>Just go straight to the duel.
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>>3101246
>>”The former is preferred, thank you.”

>Just go straight to the duel.
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>>3101246
>”The former is preferred, thank you.”
>Try to get some other type of game going along with the duel, something to give you the chance of getting something even after she wipes the floor with you.
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>>3101246
>the former

>do a simple coinflip. Loser relinqueshes their Opening Move.

Guys, come on. Were in a party setting where unorthodox duel things are more acceptable, and we can turn 0 with a small chance of 1 to 1 with a small chance of 2.
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I'm not sure what she gets out of trying to get a rise out of us, but it's a shame Sofia doesn't know the concept of 'robot mode': I.E. make a strictly logical viewpoint of everything. "I must admit, I'm baffled as to why you would address me with a name I have not gone by for some time and have no reason to continue going by."

I've found a lot of the time if you don't seem to 'get' the insult, people stop trying to insult you since it seems to lose its bite.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3101283

Sofia frankly lacks any social offense or defense.

She's never used it, and never needed it. She can't really learn it either except in the context of a duel.
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>>3101288
Yup. Shame.
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>”The former is preferred, thank you.”
>Try to get some other type of game going along with the duel, something to give you the chance of getting something even after she wipes the floor with you.

“The former is preferred, thank you.”
What is she trying to do? It almost feels as if she’s just doing it for the fun of it. That she saw what you thought of her instantly and decided to ruin you as a result. But it won’t work! You’ll make a fool of her in the end and maybe even get in something for poor Sabina as well.

Because while Sabina might be in this situation with Catalina by choice, that still doesn’t make it right. It’s plain to see that as the Ringmistress and as her sponsor, Catalina has total control over Sabina’s career as a duellist. So isn’t Sabina’s choice to be with her tainted by the fact that any refusal could destroy her? It’d be like you using your curse to get laid. It’s filthy.
“Oh and, would you care for a small game of chance before we begin? The victor has to stay back and only defend for the first few seconds of the duel. It’s fine since it’s just a casual match right?”

Catalina raises a perfect eyebrow.
“Why?”

“Because I think you’re going to need every chance you get, darling.”
You let the final word twist in your mouth. And with that, you open your handbag with a quick snap. Within, trophies glitter…
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>>3101294
>You’ll make a fool of her in the end and maybe even get in something for poor Sabina as well.

>“Because I think you’re going to need every chance you get, darling.”

Sigh. Well, can't expect miracles in a day or two, I suppose.
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>>3101294
Choose your loadout! Choose six Techniques and one Ability. You can opt to take no Ability if you choose. A loadout with no Ability selected will be treated as a vote for having none.

ABILITIES

>Professional Provocateur: [ABILITY]At the end of each round, if you have successfully performed a Trick and have not lost any Composure dice, the single lowest die in your opponent’s Technique Pool is moved to their Strike Pool. If there are no dice in your opponent’s Technique Pool, the lowest die in their Composure Pool is moved to their Technique Pool instead.)

>Test Your Luck: [ABILITY]You’re a pro at games of chance and other such swindles, no matter how well they’re performed. Once per thread you may either reroll a single dice or automatically succeed at a game of chance.

TECHNIQUES

>Brute Strike: [STRIKE]Siphon the lowest value dice from your Composure Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage.

>Focussed Blow: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage.

>Counting Coup: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. Next time you use this in the same duel, upgrade it by 2 sides. This caps at d10 and if done again afterwards, resets back to d4.

>Gritted Teeth: [TRICK]Move the highest value die from your Technique Pool to your Composure Pool.

>Elegance: [FLOURISH] Declare either Strike, Flourish, Trick or Stance. Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. When your opponent makes their next move, if it is the same category of move as declared, generate a die of equal value to the lowest value dice in your Composure Pool.

>Unassailable Rookie: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, all dice that your opponent rolls out of their Strike Pool take a -1 penalty to their final result. Can only be active while you have a d4 in your Composure Pool.

>Underhanded Deflection: [TRICK]Lower the sides of all the dice currently in your opponent’s Technique pool by 1.

>Crushing Grip: [STRIKE]Siphon no dice. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. If no Composure dice are destroyed as a result of this, whether through damage or through an ability, destroy the single highest value die in your opponent’s Technique Pool.

>Circle Guard: [TRICK]Your opponent cannot siphon dice into their Strike Pool this round. If they attempt to, destroy the single lowest die in their Technique Pool. This Technique cannot be used if your Technique Pool is empty.
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>>3101297
>>Test Your Luck: [ABILITY]You’re a pro at games of chance and other such swindles, no matter how well they’re performed. Once per thread you may either reroll a single dice or automatically succeed at a game of chance.

and

>Unassailable Rookie: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, all dice that your opponent rolls out of their Strike Pool take a -1 penalty to their final result. Can only be active while you have a d4 in your Composure Pool.

>Underhanded Deflection: [TRICK]Lower the sides of all the dice currently in your opponent’s Technique pool by 1.

>Crushing Grip: [STRIKE]Siphon no dice. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. If no Composure dice are destroyed as a result of this, whether through damage or through an ability, destroy the single highest value die in your opponent’s Technique Pool.

>Counting Coup: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. Next time you use this in the same duel, upgrade it by 2 sides. This caps at d10 and if done again afterwards, resets back to d4.

>Circle Guard: [TRICK]Your opponent cannot siphon dice into their Strike Pool this round. If they attempt to, destroy the single lowest die in their Technique Pool. This Technique cannot be used if your Technique Pool is empty.

>Gritted Teeth: [TRICK]Move the highest value die from your Technique Pool to your Composure Pool.

Survival Build. Again, no one in their right mind (which apparently means everyone but Sofia herself) should believe we're actually winning this one. I'm personally hoping to just last more than three rounds.
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>>3101297

>Test Your Luck

>Focused Blow
>Counting Coup
>Elegance
>Underhanded Deflection
>Crushing Grip
>Circle Guard

>>3101299

There's no point: Unassailable rookie won't hold, and only defends effectively against an expected Prick.

Gritted teeth is likewise useless: The ability to scramble a composure die (of D10 at maximum) isn't worth the slot.

The real choice is between taking PP to actually try to perform well, or using Test Your Luck to rig the coin toss and "win" a contest.

She's not going to fail to kill our D4's, so UR will not be useful. Gritted Teeth has never been a good choice with our kit, since it's really intended for a brute strike build we never geared for. Our defensive options are Circle guard against large dice generated into Catalina's Tech pool from her ring, and UD for small attrition and activating PP to force her to leave her nice dice in the Tech pool where we can punish them with Crushing Grip.
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>>3101307
Hm. Well, you know better than I do; this is literally my first attempt in this whole quest to try anything involving combat.
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>>3101297
>Test Your Luck
>Focused Blow
>Counting Coup
>Elegance
>Underhanded Deflection
>Brute Strike
>Circle Guard

Dropping PP will likely let Catalina block our Tech generation with SS, but TYL at least gets us a guaranteed minor win.
Crushing Grip will only get us Entangled. Brute Strike isn't the best technique, but at least Catalina didn't see us use it in a fight, and we can potentially use it to break her Skin Unthorned without pumping tech, which could be a surprise for her.
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>>3101307
>UD for small attrition and activating PP to force her to leave her nice dice in the Tech pool where we can punish them with Crushing Grip.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by this? How can PP make her leave her dice in the Tech pool?
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>>3101322

If she empties her tech pool to attack us, her composure takes attrition as they're dragged into her tech pool

If she doesn't make the attack, we can crushing grip them away.

Remember that the Garden cannot entangle us twice on its own rules. Unless Catalina has an upgraded version or an ability to play off of it, we can only be pricked by the roses once.

So she's forced to decide between leaving nice dice in her tech pool to avoid having her composure sapped, or striking early to give her the opportunity to put new dice into her tech pool before the turn ends. Finally, it synergizes with Circle guard, which gives us a defensive option to destroy her tech dice

It's not perfect by any means, but it's significantly better at defense than throwing a single dice back into our composure ala Gritted Teeth.
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Just woke up right now to read what happened.
Oh man, this'll be interesting. If only I didn't have to go to work.
Did she agree to our little game before the duel to spice things up since this is for 'fun'?
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>>3101327
PP only triggers if we don't lose Composure, which means we'd have to defend with Circle Guard when she strikes, which prevents her Tech pool from emptying.
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Actually, I think we have a chance to give her some hurt if we let her get herself entangled, then unexpectedly spring on her with a Brute Strike to make her disentangle and be Pricked.
We'd have to lose some Comp and get Entangled ourselves in the process though.
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>>3101296
I think this is also a negative for the Ring Mistress.
Think about it. The Ring Mistress is lowering herself to fight a no-name public defender for no discernible reason.
In fact, the same one that her pupil defeated and had already been defeated the day before. Why?

Whereas we have the opportunity to fight a high level opponent that would never bother giving us the time of day. And we can learn from it even if we lose. After all we might run into other Rose Ring members in our fights
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>>3101297
>Test your Luck

>Focussed Blow
>Crushing Grip
>Underhanded Deflection
>Circle Guard
>Brute Strike
>Counting Coup
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>>3101297
>Test your luck
>Focused Blow
>counting Coup
>Elegance
>Crushing Grip
>Circle Guard
>UD


Brute is useless in nearly any situation given its a single die use. Rollie is bleh here too.
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I'm back! Vote called and writing.
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>Test Your Luck
>Focused Blow
>Counting Coup
>Elegance
>Underhanded Deflection
>Crushing Grip
>Circle Guard

You notice a silence falling over across the Ring-grounds as Catalina descends from the box and down the rows, Sabina, Maccio and you trailing behind. Nobody’s looking at you or if they are, it is only as they cast their gaze around in search of Catalina’s opponent. And despite what she had said about honouring Sabina with at least one duel upon her ceremony, it’s clear to you that nobody was actually expecting her to fight today. After all, who would be foolish enough to ask her?
So this isn’t normal. What does she have to gain from doing this? You’re having a harder and harder time believing it’s all just because she wants to punish you for an opinion.

“Psst,” you say, nudging Sabina a little in the side as you descend. “What can I expect here?”

“Roses,” she says quietly. “She’s hardly invincible but they say she’s never lost while the flowers still bloom.”

“You’re a pretty good duellist. Have you ever beaten her?”

She shakes her head.
“Just don’t be too surprised at what she’ll do to you. It happens to everyone.”

“...What does that mean?”

But by then it’s too late. The stone ring floating in the water closest to you has been cleared out, the short-haired instructor looking nonplussed as she passes a wooden sabre to her Ring-mistress. You take the next sword and step forward, already decked out in your chosen trophies. The coin is clutched between thumb and forefinger, Paolo’s collar flaps in the breeze from its hook at the front of your coat, Signore Albero’s empty scabbard hangs at your hip opposite your regular one and you’re wearing Maccio’s old doublet beneath your cloak as well, a second cloak. It’s certainly big enough. And while it may not look as fancy as Catalina’s epaulettes, there’s power here that can’t be denied. You wear the carcasses of former enemies and hope that their strength will be enough.

It won’t be. Look, you’re under no illusions here. You very much doubt you’re going to even come close to winning. You’re here to claim a smaller prize. If Catalina is, as she claimed, here to teach...you are here to learn. You will claim a trophy from her, not from the duel, but from the little test of chance beforehand.

“I accept your offer,” Catalina says as the two of you stand alone on the ring. “Flip the coin. Whoever fails the call will just sit back and defend for the first few moments of the duel. Are you ready?”

“You don’t even know the half of it.”
You toss the coin into the air.


>Test your Luck! Win the flip.

>Just do the flip normally. You want to save the coin’s power for later, possibly during the duel itself. Shouldn’t you at least try with everything you’ve got?
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>>3101478
>Test your Luck! Win the flip.
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>>3101478
>Test your Luck! Win the flip.
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>>3101478
>Test your Luck! Win the flip
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Just fell asleep for twenty minutes or so. Vote called, writing.
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Things to remember:

>Crushing Grip can't be used to defend against Strikes. It's too slow in destroying the Tech die.
>Breaking the opponent's Composition is not enough to win, you then need to make a second Strike (even with no dice at all)
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>Test Your Luck

You don’t leave this to chance. The coin flips exactly as you want it, having learned the ways of being lucky just before.
“It looks like I won,” you say. “Any objections?”

“Of course not,” she says, looking entirely unfazed. “I will sit back and let you have free run of the ring at first. Nobody will be able to say that I didn’t give you every possible chance.”
She tosses her actual sabre off to the side, across the water and into the seats.

You do the same shortly afterwards, acutely aware of the entire Ring watching you. This is it. It’s either now or never! There’s no ceremony to do here, no kissing of the blades, no seeing or being unseen. Just a pair of sword-shaped sticks, the first of whom to surrender a touch shall lose.
You heft your practice sword menacingly and true to her word, Catalina simply stands back with her own clutched idly in one hand.
“When you’re ready, Signorina Pseudonym. I will only wait a few seconds more.”

>There is no opening strike as per normal! Instead you are starting your first queue straight away but instead of 3, you shall be choosing 4! Your opponent will not be doing anything for the first of these four actions ,after which her own queue of 3will begin as normal.

>Choose 4.


>Focussed Blow: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage.

>Counting Coup: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. Next time you use this in the same duel, upgrade it by 2 sides. This caps at d10 and if done again afterwards, resets back to d4.

>Elegance: [FLOURISH] Declare either Strike, Flourish, Trick or Stance. Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. When your opponent makes their next move, if it is the same category of move as declared, generate a die of equal value to the lowest value dice in your Composure Pool.

>Underhanded Deflection: [TRICK]Lower the sides of all the dice currently in your opponent’s Technique pool by 1.

>Crushing Grip: [STRIKE]Siphon no dice. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. If no Composure dice are destroyed as a result of this, whether through damage or through an ability, destroy the single highest value die in your opponent’s Technique Pool.

>Circle Guard: [TRICK]Your opponent cannot siphon dice into their Strike Pool this round. If they attempt to, destroy the single lowest die in their Technique Pool. This Technique cannot be used if your Technique Pool is empty.
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A few things to note:
1)You don't see her Composure yet since there's no kissing of blades.
2)Here are the duel rules if you need a refresher: https://pastebin.com/6eTp737y
3)I'm very tired and am going to sleep. Vote will remain open until I wake in the morning. Good night!
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Also it can't really be overstated how huge of an advantage it is to have 4 turns in the first queue. Because of that, this fight is winnable.
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>>3101535
Don't you worry. We'll still find a way to mess it up
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Pls don't vote randomly anons.
I, for one, am fully intending to make use of Ouro's sleepytime to think.
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>>3101535
Ouro we could have two full queue over someone and lose.
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>>3101539
There is literally only one play here and I've already posted it.
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>>3101544
Don't forget she doesn't skip all 4 turns, only the 1st one
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>>3101535
Even if you gave Sofia 4d20 composure, I think we would still lose.

>>3101528
CCx4
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>>3101554
Hmm, you're right. There is a real threat is if she has Sabino's Snicker-Snack

>Snicker-Snack: [TRICK]Your opponent cannot generate dice into their Technique Pool this round. By the end of the round, if they have tried to, generate a die equal to the largest diee they would have generated this way into your Technique Pool. This Technique cannot be used unless your Technique Pool is empty
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>>3101528
>Counting Coup
>Counting Coup
>Counting Coup
>Elegance: Flourish

Alright I'm going to assume she has S-S and that Ouro knows we'd try to go for full CC cause I literally just tried it. With that in mind he'd want to steal our d10 so I'm deliberately using the wrong Elegance so that if S-S is deployed she'll only get a d4 out of it and won't be able to use S-S again until that d4 goes away.

If she uses S-S earlier, that sucks but she won't take our d10.
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>>3101528
>>3101556
Oh wait, I misread. So she really only loses 1 action.

>>3101562
that's fair. Better economy than what I had in mind, since elegance will only give bonus d4s and Circle Guard would at best remove the d4 generated by Ring's Chosen.

>Counting Coup
>Counting Coup
>Counting Coup
>Elegance: Flourish
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>>3101528
Since Catalina is Sabino's mentor, we can assume she has his best techniques available (listed here: >>3101113)
She also has seen our fight with Sabino and knows how we fight.

Based on this, I predict she goes SS, then RC, then some kind of defence or Tech destructor, or the stance. She will want to set up RC early and it generates a tech die, so I'm not afraid of an SS on the 4th action. So I propose:

>Counting Coup
>Underhanded Deflection (just to do something that's not a flourish)
>Counting Coup (Not Elegance because it would only give us d4s, useless against her stance)
>Counting Coup
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>>3101560
>>3101565
>>3101554
Does she lose only one round?
Because this >>3101535
>Also it can't really be overstated how huge of an advantage it is to have 4 turns
> to have 4 turns
>4 turns
>4
???
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>>3101568
Hmm that could work too. I see the logic there about getting RC early.

I guess the prediction is whether how greedy we think she is going to be with S-S.

I'll think it over again.
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>>3101570
> Your opponent will not be doing anything for the first of these four actions ,after which her own queue of 3will begin as normal.
>>3101528
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>>3101570
Yeah that's why I did CCx4 at the start cause it sounded like we had free reign for the first four turns, but >>3101572 implies we don't.
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>>3101571
Now there's a problem.
If I'm correct and she doesn't use the stance until at least the 4th action, we could strike her on that action and deny her the stance altogether by destroying her d6s.
But if I'm mistaken and she sets up the stance before using RC, the strike will whiff. The actions I posted hedge against this.
I'm having second thoughts but I don't know whether to listen to them.
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>>3101570
I think we are going to have to wait until word of god comes down on that to make a final vote. In the meantime start thinking about the plans purposed if we only have the first turn for free.

Cause if we do get 4 turns for free CCx4 is the only play.
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Also, inb4 Catalina has a d20 in Composure.
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You have 4 turns, she has 3.
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>>3101627
Gotcha. 1 free turn it is.

Now we just got to decide whether she'll go for an early RC or attempt our to take our d10.

Early RC is definitely a safer route for her and gets her started earlier which is advantageous to her. Might need to change my vote again.
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>>3101528
Alright I'm changing my vote >>3101562 here to

>Counting Coup
>Crushing Grip
>Counting Coup
>Counting Coup

Similar to >>3101568 but CrG instead cause if she uses RC we can kill a d4 which helps in the long run and if she uses S-S she gets nothing. Also we get to throw her around which is nice.
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>>3101347

Noted. Circle Guard into Crushing Grip does potentially do something, but nothing that a second Circle guard isn't better at while on the defensive.

>>3101373
>>3101478

According to Sabina's line here; she doesn't have any intention of just humiliating us in the ring. I assume she will take advantage of our broken composure in one way or another.

>>3101654

I'm going to second this move. Bad case, we've got d4+d6, best case, we have the full spread and Catalina has nothing but her own setup.

>Counting Coup
>Crushing Grip
>Counting Coup
>Counting Coup
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Okay, I think that, even as I don't participate in duels, I see an issue with Counting Coup. We keep going back to that well, even as Ouro tries to discourage us. My question is 'why'? Not in an emotional way, but logically, why do we keep going back to that move even as its discourage?

From what I recall, it's because on a logistical level there's no real reason to not open with it, right? If that's the case, then there need to be so mechanical changes, otherwise a lot of anons, I feel, will go to it regardless of whether they're 'supposed to' or not. (And yes, I know that there's no actual rules for how to use moves, it's a turn of phrase.) Because then it turns into a 'best of a bad bunch' situation where the players acknowledge that their move might get identified and even countered...but it's such a good technique that using anything else is seen as sub-optimal due to the perceived relative risk and reward. Y'know, where they think 'If I hit with this it'll be great, but if I miss with it the result won't so bad' - ignoring that people know them well enough or can research to see that she always opens with that, skewing the chances of the technique actually hitting in a negative fashion.

I dunno, just spitballing.
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>>3101699
Well luckily this time we have a free first move.

Sadly with our skill set CC is the only way to make confirmed forward progress towards doing decent damage. Elegance can fail and only generate d4s. And that's it, we have nothing else.

We don't have a way to put stuff in the Strike pool on our own without using them so Brute Strike will never be useful as the most we'll get out of it is a d12 by itself.

Everything else is defensive in nature which ultimately isn't the best in this kind of game.
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>>3101699

The thing is that Counting Coup and elegance are our two economy options.

Facing a Rose Ring duelist means that Elegance isn't a safe decision until we're sure Snickersnack is off the table. It does generate 2d4, but d4's aren't useful in the case of skin unthorned.

Even if Catalina spends her entire turn on tempo (Stance, rose garden, ETC), we don't have enough dice to do anything but hope to get lucky (Which has never been a good choice).

There's also the fact that we can't actually be certain of her moveset. We know that some of it is going to involve Rose garden, and it should rhyme with Sabino, but I expect the master will have a few tricks.

Really the problem boils down to it's our Econ option, and that means we need it to get built. Once we've taken some damage, a few good Elegances can turn the tide, but we have a poor record with those.
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>>3101711
>>3101717

So the question next is, what kind of technique can we get that allows us to not rely on Counting Coup so much? Mechanics-wise, I mean; it's obvious we'll have to eventually actually BEAT someone in order to do so.
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>>3101723
We can just keep fighting Rose people until eventually we steal all their moves so we can have access to the bullshit Thorn bush?
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>>3101727

We need a ring insignia to do that.

We could of course take one as a trophy, but I'm concerned with the fallout.
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>>3101731
Right
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>>3101731
Btw I just realized.
Catalina was described as not wearing the ring insignia.
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>>3101797

I'm assuming she either has an upgraded signature version, or a mundane equivalent.

She might just beat our ass with basic techniques, but at the least, it's new experience.
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>>3101816
Shit, Ceg, you're on a roll
Maccio looks too old here though.
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>>3101823
It's actually a scene from Zombieland Saga. Pretty funny
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>>3101825
There are things that are really wrong with this guy's head anatomy.
Also other anatomy.
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>>3101816
I am disappointed, I expected better taste from you.
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>>3101627
Does Catalina need her ring to do the Obstacle if she hypothetically has it in her skillset and can she even do it outside the Wake?
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>>3101528
>Counting Coup
No reason not to start with this
>Elegance Flourish
My bet is she’ll either pop her ring, maybe elegance us (if anyone would have it, it’d be her) or the like. Get the roses started.
>Focused Blow
If I was on Mark we can rattle her and stance null. She’s likely going to stance herself up now if memory serves.
>Elegance Trick
If she has snicker snack or a defense skill which is what tricks are she’d use it now to either steal dice or decend, so since elegance bonus dice shouldn’t be affected by snicker, it’s my play.
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I'm awake! Vote called and writing.
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damn didn't make it back to vote for something. I hope we're a little more aggressive in attacking this time around.
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>Counting Coup
>Crushing Grip
>Counting Coup
>Counting Coup

It might only be a few seconds of inactivity but it’s a massive disadvantage for her. A duel is as much a battle to negate your opponent’s momentum as much as it is to cultivate your own. To have that done by the opponent themselves, even if it is just for a second, is a boon you intend to take full advantage of!

>COUNTING COUP

You close the distance the moment the duel starts, whipping off your coat and flicking it right at her face! She barely reacts but you don’t need her to. You just need to obscure her vision so that she doesn’t see what your off-hand is doing…

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 1d4

Catalina’s sword thumps into the ground as she steps back and the stone beneath your feet thrums. The crowd roars in recognition!

>CRUSHING GRIP
>Catalina uses a Flourish called Ring’s Chosen!

>Ring’s Chosen: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. If you bear the insignia of a duelling Ring and there are no Obstacles present, generate an Obstacle that matches your Ring. At the end of the turn, if the Obstacle was created by this Technique, transform Ring’s Chosen into it’s Ring-specific form.

You barely have time to see the sprouts crawling up from between the cracks in the stone before you finish your plan, your sword meeting hers as you pivot and grab hold of her collar with your off-hand! It doesn’t matter how skilled she is, she’s not as strong as you. You’ll crush all the power right out of her if you have to!

>Catalina’s Technique Pool: Empty.

You keep your grip on her as roses blossom all around you, filling the air with their scent as they rise from beneath the stone.
“What the fuck?”

Catalina doesn’t look at all concerned that you’re shaking her around like a ragdoll.
“These are our grounds, Signorina. The Wake is not required to bloom a rose here.”

“But what about your insig-”

Before you can finish, she tears herself out of your grip and takes three sharp steps back through the roses, leaving her fancy jacket behind in your hand. She’s wearing naught but a sleeveless black camisole beneath and her skin is wreathed in silver. Silver lines traced beneath the skin completely cover her arms from wrist to shoulder in a garden of silver roses etched upon her skin itself. You can see that it covers her shoulders as well and stretches down along her chest until the camisole conceals it. A single extensive tattoo that, as far as you can tell, covers her entire torso with only the neck and the hands being free of it.
“Do you like it?,” she asks, clearly seeing where you’re staring. “It’s real silver, tailored into the body. I am the Ring insignia.”

1/2
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>>3102583

>A Rose Garden has been summoned!

>Obstacles are a special kind of hazard that occur when a dangerous duelling arena is chosen or they are otherwise introduced by one duellist during the course of a duel.
>Obstacles count as a third ‘duellist’ in the sense that they are modelled with Techniques and dicepools but they have no Composure to destroy and generally can’t be attacked. Each of an Obstacle’s Techniques only activate when a specific trigger is set off.

>ROSE GARDEN TECHNIQUES
>Entangle: [TRICK]Target duellist is now Entangled until they lose a Composure Dice to an opponent’s attack. Trigger: When a duellist makes a Strike that does not damage Composure or when a duellist loses more than one type of Composure dice to a single attack. Cannot target duellists that have already been Entangled this duel.
>Sweet Scent: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into the Technique Pool. Trigger: Only when a duellist starts a turn Entangled.
>Prick: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from Technique Pool into Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. Trigger: When an entangled duellist loses Entangled.

Her jacket still clutched tight in your off-hand, you decide to give it back. Stepping carefully around the roses, you advance and then toss it right into her face in a flurry of aiguillettes!

>COUNTING COUP

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 1d4, 1d6.

Catalina just tosses the jacket out of the ring and advances, her every step gliding through the thorns as if they weren’t even there!

>Catalina uses a Stance called Skin Unthorned!

>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.

You meet her advance in the very center of the ring, catching her blade on your own and filling the arena with the thwack of wood on wood. You take another step forward and press close, trying not to look down her camisole in the process. Is this all the resistance she has to offer? You were expecting something a little m-

>Catalina uses a Trick called Pinch The Stem!

>Pinch The Stem: [TRICK]Transform the single highest dice in both of your Technique Pools into a d4.If your opponent is Entangled, this effect applies to all dice in both of your Technique Pools.

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 2d4

She gives way quickly and unexpectedly and the force of your own advance sends you stumbling past her. You stop just before you can blunder into the roses and, acting on pure instinct, turn and angle your blade in a high parry just in time to stop her wooden sword from smacking into your shoulder!
The unexpected parry lets you force her back as she pulls the distance and steps away from your counterattack. The advantage is still yours!

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 2d4, 1d8

Isn’t it?

2/3
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>>3102589

“Don’t worry,” Catalina says. “I won’t try to manhandle you or throw you around. Us delicate flowers need a gentle touch.”

>Duel Status: https://pastebin.com/QPUVJnW2

>Choose 3:

>Focussed Blow: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage.

>Counting Coup: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. Next time you use this in the same duel, upgrade it by 2 sides. This caps at d10 and if done again afterwards, resets back to d4.

>Elegance: [FLOURISH] Declare either Strike, Flourish, Trick or Stance. Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. When your opponent makes their next move, if it is the same category of move as declared, generate a die of equal value to the lowest value dice in your Composure Pool.

>Underhanded Deflection: [TRICK]Lower the sides of all the dice currently in your opponent’s Technique pool by 1.

>Crushing Grip: [STRIKE]Siphon no dice. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. If no Composure dice are destroyed as a result of this, whether through damage or through an ability, destroy the single highest value die in your opponent’s Technique Pool.

>Circle Guard: [TRICK]Your opponent cannot siphon dice into their Strike Pool this round. If they attempt to, destroy the single lowest die in their Technique Pool. This Technique cannot be used if your Technique Pool is empty.
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>>3102593

Wow, unexpected, I have no idea what to do. Didn't expect that but I guess if she's master of the Rose Garden she can do lots of stuff we could never expected. Too bad we didn't get to talk to Sabino for longer about this. Oh well, too late.
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She's got good synergy with her skills. I might need to think for a bit.
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>>3102593
She can just keep using pinch the stem and we can do nothing. We need to shatter her d6 as fast as possible.
>Counting coup
>Focussed blow
>Counting coup

The next counting coup will make a 1d10. If we counting coup after that, it'll make an unusable d4. Worst case she destroys our 1d10 and then we're forced to highroll a 1d8. Best case we blow her out with a d8 and d10. Elegance is useless since it'll only make d4s. Alternatively, we can do cc, fb, fb in the case she does some bullshit that stops a strike in the second round.
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>>3102630

I second this play. we need to roll over that CC as quickly as possible if we fail to break Unthorned.
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>>3102593
I'm going to go for
>CC
>Focussed Blow
>Focussed Blow

The last one because our first 2 moves are too predictable. I don't know if she has something like Circle Guard, but at least a second strike beats SOME of the things she could do to stop us.
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>>3102630
I don't know, I feel like we should attack more often. Maybe 2 focused blows and then a counting coup?
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>>3102662
Why? Do the math.
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>>3102662
Counting coup first because there is no downside to doing so. if we attack instantly, we only roll a d8. If we cc, we have a chance of rolling a d8 and a d10. Unless she has something that obliterates our technique pool, there's no reason why we shouldn't maximize our chances of breaking the d6.

Switching over to >>3102657 actually. If she does have circle guard and we miss the chance to use the d8, it's pretty much game over.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3102593
ARRRRRRgh

>>3102145
See how I called it?
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>>3102675
Sometimes I feel we take too long to be on the attack because we want to have the biggest dice possible in the pool. But by the time we reach it, our opponents seem to get to us faster and attack.
We take too long before making an attack.
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>>3102630
>>3102657
She's going to null our CC, she expects us to use it. We're falling into the patterns they expect now.
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>>3102720
Pretty much, it's too predictable. I would rather be on the attack than rather than just counting coup all the time. I had to step away before I could really explain my reasoning.
It's more intuitive than dice focused. People are obsessed with generating their tech pool but we can't win by not attacking. Even if it was d8, we could still do damage. sometimes you don't have to reach d10 to win
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>>3102711
I cannot believe anons voted to use cg I hopes of destroying a fucking d4.
>>3102720
Null how? Using pinch? Nothing else gives as big of a chance than one last cc before striking. What are you supposing we do?
>>3102728
No, really, explain how she can stop the incoming d8 even if she knew it was coming with d10 padding it.
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>>3102731
Master duelist, if you think she does not hvave a circle guard + or passive that eats dice you are stupid m8.
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>>3102734
I'm asking you what would you now do you illiterate fuck.
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>>3102731
We havne't seen her total skill set yet, she might have something that we aren't going to like.
I'd prefer to be on the attack to end this as quickly as possible. The longer it is, the worse it is going to get. Also, she's seen our duel with Sabino. I think she has an idea of our preferred skill load out and our pattern of attack.
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Regardless Ouro you might as well kill this quest. The story telling is good, but anons cannot come up with another strategy past CC until we win. We had the match well in hand, but pissed it all away.


>>3102738
we've lost. Period, end of statement. She's going to block the FB and null out the dice.

Best we can do is Circle Guard spam until she concedes.
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>>3102734

I'm not sure that's the case.

Between Pluck, Entangle and Unscathed, she's got a perfect defense.

All she really needs is an ability to restore a D6 and she's nigh invulnerable.

Also. Seriously, cut the crap. I voted for CG on round two because it was a tempo move. I was concerned about Snickersnack taking our d6, and if it didn't we'd put her behind a dice either way.

Did any of us predict Pluck the Stem?
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>>3102747
I did.

>>3102145
Hell my move tally, which while late was valid, was literally the best counter we could have had.
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Some of you are getting a little het up considering it's a practice bout. Nothing is at stake here. You came here to fish for a trophy and to learn what she could do in case you ever have to fight her for real.
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>>3102746
I'm asking for your queue before the round, not after this one resolves.
>>3102745
Alright I'll give you that, in the event that she can heavily punish us for having both d8 and d10. We'll have to see if she has something like that or not.
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>>3102754
We really really want to win? It's serious business for us.
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>>3102754
I'll have you know I'm in an eternal state of daft anger and it will continue until I die.
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>>3102751

In that case, did you predict that under our knowledge of Sabino, and the fact that we do not have an obstacle, She could have as easily opened Unthorned?

Which, by the way, is the better opening, because she could have plucked our CC's every move until we hit d4 again, then put up her ring?
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>>3102754
Ouro, the issue is, we're losing as we always lose. We're not getting any better, not because we lack skills, but because we're utterly unable to apply what we know.


>>3102756
Sorry, but I was in the middle of posting before, but missed the deadline on the second. Sadly my life does not revolve around this quest. I have to work and eat and such.
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>>3102766
While She COULD have opened unthorned first, it's systemically a worse mood. The sooner you get the ring up, the more and faster you get rose dice. She KNEW we were going to spend all our time CC'ing up. because we ALWAYS CC up past the point we should whenever we fight.

Hence because I knew she knew that, and that she would not feel threatened, she'd spend on flourish first.
This is not JUST about building dice, it's about intuiting how your opponent will react.
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>>3102767
I'm asking for your queue that is objectively better than the ones given, one based on the knowledge we currently and you are still refusing to give it. I'm asking you to prove me a fucking idiot to cc and fb knowing her current skillset and the idea of a possible cg.
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>>3102774
FB asap before she pulls her dice null
Then Elegance trick
then CC


And pray our FB actually nulls her stance otherwise this fight is over.
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>>3102774
Relax, let's see what happens next. Chill, it's a quest, no need to spill blood.
I'm mad about the Adriana vote went, we completely broke her heart. We trusted her enough to get her guard down and then we ran away without explanation.Didn't even try to let her down gently.
Trust must have been one hell of a love potion for her given that we believed in her up until then
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>>3102780
Why are you talking about some hypothetical dice null we know nothing about? We don't know how it works, what it does, what kind of dice it punishes. Are you suggesting we fight ghosts? The only thing she has is pinch and it won't punish generating a d10 since we'll still have a d8.
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>>3102789
Because you keep assuming your enemy has nothing to do something, when they do, you end up getting shit on.


For example, no one knew the asshole who necked us had fool's guillotine, but because we anticipated it? We were in a damn good position to win, until we pissed it away.
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>>3102780
>Elegance cuck
Everytime.
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>>3102794
The real conflict here is those who believe the highest dice pool is optimum vs those who intuit a move set that they think might happen, so they want to counter instead of generating dice
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>Counting Coup
>Focussed Blow
>Focussed Blow

Stepping carefully through the roses, you retrieve your coat from where it had fallen. And then, continuing on in a single fluid motion, you whip it out in an attempt to knock her sword-arm aside!

>Catalina uses Pinch The Stem!

She catches the cloak and before you can do anything, pulls you closer with a short sharp tug. You stumble over, just barely avoiding the thorns as she pulls you in. For a moment you stand there before her like a stunned fish, your cheeks burning in full knowledge that your humiliation is being witnessed.

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 3d4

But you’re not going to just give up because of that! You disengage just in time to avoid being struck and as you do, circle around the side with your sword held high! Her back’s wide open!

>COUNTING COUP

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 3d4, 1d10

She doesn’t even turn her head, reaching out without looking and grabbing hold of your wrist before you can so much as swing your blade. Her grip is tender but unbreakable, perfectly controlling your sabre!

>Catalina uses Pinch The Stem!

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 4d4

You try to carry through with your strike but she just gently pushes your sword down.
“Thank you for going so easy on me. I can see why Sabina likes you.”

>FOCUSSED BLOW

>Skin Unthorned prevents you from rolling d4s!

>0 Damage!

She lightly pushes you back away from her and you stagger right into a rose-bush. You are suddenly hyper-aware of just how many thorns surround you at any given time.

>Sofia is now Entangled! It has no mechanical effect and will break when Sofia takes Composure damage again. However, when it breaks, it will trigger an automatic Prick Technique from the Rose Garden.

Keeping your legs away from the thorns, you awkwardly jab forward in an attempt to break her impassable defence. She catches your sabre upon her own and with a rapid turn, twists it right of your hands! You retrieve it immediately, pulling the distance as you do so to avoid her lazy counter-attack.

Thorns scrape at your hands as you lift the wooden sword once more. They do little more than scratch the skin and draw no blood but it’s enough to send fear racing down your spine. Is this it? Is this really all you can do?

>ROSE GARDEN: Sweet Scent
>Rose Garden Technique Pool: 1d4

>FOCUSSED BLOW

>Catalina used Counting Coup!

>Skin Unthorned prevents you from rolling d4s!

>0 damage!

>Catalina’s Technique Pool: 1d4

“Don’t worry,” Catalina says. “You’re doing amazing.”
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>>3102799
And that is the match. We lose.
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>>3102799
Oh cool, we we're fucked anyways.
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>>3102799
Duel Status: https://pastebin.com/Jkqpmkcz

>Choose 3:

>Focussed Blow: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage.

>Counting Coup: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. Next time you use this in the same duel, upgrade it by 2 sides. This caps at d10 and if done again afterwards, resets back to d4.

>Elegance: [FLOURISH] Declare either Strike, Flourish, Trick or Stance. Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. When your opponent makes their next move, if it is the same category of move as declared, generate a die of equal value to the lowest value dice in your Composure Pool.

>Underhanded Deflection: [TRICK]Lower the sides of all the dice currently in your opponent’s Technique pool by 1.

>Crushing Grip: [STRIKE]Siphon no dice. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. If no Composure dice are destroyed as a result of this, whether through damage or through an ability, destroy the single highest value die in your opponent’s Technique Pool.

>Circle Guard: [TRICK]Your opponent cannot siphon dice into their Strike Pool this round. If they attempt to, destroy the single lowest die in their Technique Pool. This Technique cannot be used if your Technique Pool is empty.
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>>3102798
Which is why we always lose. Just getting dice is not enough, if it was we'd not have a giant fucking neck scar.


>>3102797
and yet, we do better than the Counting coup cucks.


>>3102805
Either Concede or Circle guard until she gives up.
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>>3102805
>I concede. You've got some amazing skills.
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>>3102805
Well let us fight, we aren't the type to just give up even in the face of something like this.

>circle guard
>counting coup
>elegance strike
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We should've taken brute strike, now we don't have a chance.
Hindsight is 20/20.

>>3102809
Turn 1 fb would've rolled 0 in the round.
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>>3102817
Yeah, we pissed away our lead and made the match impossible.

As for Brute strike? Still does nothing. It's our lowest technique die. One of them. Which means 1d4.
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>>3102817

I don't disagree with a brute strike build being the play for this, but we have little to no synergy there. We'd still have our dice turned into D4's before we can hide them in composure.
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Come on everyone, let's keep the duel going. I want to see her complete skill set. If we can recognize new strikes and techniques, we might be able to recognize them in other duelists and come up with counters
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>>3102805
>CC
>Elegance Flourish
>Underhanded Deflection

I intend to
>CC
>CC
>FB
next queue, betting on a d6+d8. d10 is too obvious, and even if she predicts this one, we might be able to bait a different kind of move to cancel the strike.

It's either that or we spam d6 strikes and pray we get lucky.
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>>3102823
We know all her moves but her strike move. It does not matter anon.


>>3102821
Brute strike siphons our lowest tech dice, and only 1. That is still not going to do shit to her.


>>3102824
it's too late anon, she is going to spam twist until she can siphon with Thorn's embrace and one shot us.
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>>3102816

>circle guard
>counting coup
Oops made mistake
>elegance trick
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>>3102805
CCx3
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I want to win. We need to shed composure dice so Elegance actually generates dice that can be used against her. The only chance we have is predicting when she'll do something other than pluck so we can strike at the same time and hope she doesn't instant break our composure.
>>3102819
Brute strike gives us the slightest chance of destroying her d6 without technique dice, which she is blowing out.

>>3102824
The next CCs are 4 and 6. If the fb pulls through, we have a 1/6. Better than nothing.

I'm voting for
>CC
>CC
>FB

Stop voting for Elegance. It makes useless d4 dice that do nothing.
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How about we make this an exercise of coming up with new combos that don't spam CC all the time. Maybe we can make this a draw by being overly stubborn.
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>>3102824
>>3102830
>Her moves this rounf
>Twist
>twist
>twist

>Next round
>twist
>twist
>twist


Next round after
>twist
>twist
>twist

Final round
Thorn's embrace
Masterful blow,
Masterful blow

The BEST we can manage now is a stance break before she ganks us.
>>3102832
Stop being a troll.
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>>3102805
Hey OP question can we willingly decide lose composure?
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>>3102842
I'm afraid not.
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>>3102840
We can't get over a d4 with anything else senpai
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>>3102838
>Brute strike gives us the slightest chance of destroying her d6 without technique dice, which she is blowing out.


No it does not. We'd need to find a way to get our dice into the strike pool, which he stance DISALLOWS.

She has us stalled out. we literally cannot attack her and she knows it.


Regardless she is going to spam Twist until she is in a position to comfortably hit us, then have prick finish us off our composure if she misses.


>>3102851
We're not going to with it either, unless you're an idiot who cannot read.
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>>3102853
So you have no plan then? Elegance won't get us over a d4

Everything else doesn't generate dice. Unless you have a plan I'm going to assume you're trolling.
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>>3102819

Bud. There never was a lead.

Get over yourself. This match was lost when we agreed to it.

We picked the fight with the Master of the rose ring. We picked the fight with the intent to lose.

Now, we're going to continue as long as we can, and when she's done with gloating and whatever violation she keeps as her right as the tawdry bitch she is, we're going to take an epaulet off her jacket, along with her taste in fine wine or whatever else we can get, smile and leave.

Because the entire point of this was never to win. It was to learn what the Rose Ring's best can do, and when we're done, we're going to give her a feeling she's probably not felt in a while.

She's going to feel cheated; because she thought she knew everything about us, and we still put one over her.

>>3102851

She's going to pinch any dice we make that are over d4. Now that we're entangled, she's going to pinch all dice we make that are above d4.

So now we're moving into graceful defeat mode: Let's try to predict when the attack comes and CG it.
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>>3102861
I am saying we're in a position where we cannot win. Match is over, period. She is going to spam twist until she can OHKo us with one hit.
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>>3102853
>We'd need to find a way to get our dice into the strike pool, which he stance DISALLOWS.
Wrong. It stops dice in the strike pool from rolling. Brute strike will siphon the d4s and remain there. Then it will siphon the higher composure dice that can be rolled , giving us a chance.
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>>3102865
Okay then. If nothing matters CCx3 is fine then.
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>>3102863
But we had a good chance due to our build up. The critical moment was the beginning. Unfortunately, we have become extremely stale and predictable.
Worse is everyone's belief that a impressive dice pool is necessary.

Also, even if we are going to lose, I hate to just give up. Let's take this too the end. Let's try to predict her attack and counter.
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>>3102850
Can we strike ourselves?
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>>3102863
>Bud. There never was a lead.
But there was.
>Get over yourself. This match was lost when we agreed to it.
so you are outright calling the qm a liar. Good to know you're only here to troll.
>Now, we're going to continue as long as we can, and when she's done with gloating and whatever violation she keeps as her right as the tawdry bitch she is, we're going to take an epaulet off her jacket, along with her taste in fine wine or whatever else we can get, smile and leave.
Unless of course, she interprets that as assault and shivs us.
>Because the entire point of this was never to win. It was to learn what the Rose Ring's best can do, and when we're done, we're going to give her a feeling she's probably not felt in a while.
wrong. She knows exactly who we are and what we can do. She's going to give just as good if better than she gets.
>She's going to feel cheated; because she thought she knew everything about us, and we still put one over her.

>Assumptions

>>3102866
not really. By the time it does so she can table us anyways.


>>3102869
This has the right of it. We could have made this an actually fight but were so consumed with BIG DICE BIG DICE BIG DICE, we fucked ourselves over, again. Worse players seem to be actively ignoring this and just continue to do it the entire time. Ouro already knows what we are going to do before we do it because we're that predictable and stale, which means in a real duel we've already lost.

>>3102871
That's called conceding anon.
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>>3102871
Theoretically yes.
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>>3102880
>That's called conceding anon.
3d4, 1d6 if we can get rid of those dice from our composure our elegance could easily generate d8 right? wouldn't that help us?
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3102880
So what would we do to stance break?
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>>3102863
After reading this, I agree. I guess find when she'll land the finishing blow and then cg.

>>3102886
What. Is the pastebin wrong? The d4s should be in the strike pool when focussed siphoned them. They just weren't rolled.
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>>3102880
Well, there is the fact the system of duelling is miles more complicatedly than normal quests. Usually it's a d20 or d10 vs whatever. It's not a pick up and play list that most quests have. You need to actually study up on it.
I actually had to read what the moves do and read previous duels to figure out the system. It's not intuitive at all.
Also a pattern emerged in our duels, so much so that any person who hears of us can accurately predict our opening moves. It's pretty amazing. Counting Coup is too much of a crutch, the first thing that people go for.
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>>3102869

Look at Catalina's build. We lost due to insufficient data from the start.

The only chance was a 3d4 strike, which I'm still utterly confused that Catalina didn't prepare for, and that only gets us to the point where we had any chance to mark her from then on.

And all it takes to dumpster that is an ability like GSD... which would make her virtually invulnerable.

There were two ways to go about this: Hard hits that prevent getting entangled, or an early strike to bust her stance... which still leaves us open to getting entangled and wrecked afterwards.

She can, and does soft lock our moveset. If you can't see it, it's no skin off my back.
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>>3102894
Oh right. That was an error on my part. They're in the Strike Pool. Thanks for pointing that out!
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>>3102890
keep hitting ourself I would assume.

>>3102888
No because she's going to keep spamming twist and locking us up. We're already beaten.


>>3102896
She didn't prepare for it because she knew we'd still hand the win over to her anyways. WE ARE PREDICATABLE. WE KEEP DOING THE SAME SHIT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN THE EXACT SAME WAY AND WE LOSE BECUASE OF IT.

>>3102895
Exactly. Because it requires a brain we are going to lose, and lose, and lose more and never fucking win once because the players are fucking retards who think big dice is all that is needed to win.
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>>3102903
Oh, sorry. I meant stance break her, not us. I was just curious. You seem to be more on the ball than anyone else in here, just about. I don't participate in actual fights because I KNOW I don't know- I tried making a loadout just earlier and that was it.
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>>3102903
Calm down man, it's a quest. Not the end of the world.
In any case, if this continues, our girl Sophia is going to end up the laughing stock of the dueling world the way things keep going due to lack of strategizing.
We should have a quick list of solid rules every time there is a duel.
1. Big dice pools are nice to have but they don't typically win the duel
2. Predicting your opponents move is extremely important
3. Don't make our clients sad, stop trying to use the same old moves. Make new move sets, try to think before posting!
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>>3102909
I know that feel. It took at least an hour of rereading previous duels and trying figure out what move does what and counters what
Even then, I still don't feel comfortable with it. I just don't quite understand, it's not easy to pick up at all.
But I do recognize patterns we've been falling into.
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>>3102903

No.

Because the way to win this fight was to enter it with a degenerate strategy involving our composure pool which we have no synergy or practice with.

Yes. 3d4 strike had a chance to break her stance. Only after she revealed Pinch the Stem did we discover we will never again have dice above d4, and never again be able to roll them.

And, since you missed it: CATALINA MISPLAYED: SHE NEVER NEEDED TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY.

We only ever had a 11/36 chance of having a chance to beat her if she took us seriously, and that would have required giving up our small win that we guaranteed.
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>>3102920
It's okay. I don't think the dude understands how action economy works and not knowing what your opponent has at the start. It's always hindsight.

Least we got the coin toss win whatever that might get us.
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In any case we have three options
1. concede.
2. CC, CC, CC as some have suggested
3. Try to counter or predict her next move. Remember she wants to teach us, she'll probably keep us on our toes and not just spam thorn twist. We can try to counter her and make her respect us a bit. So let's do some elegance and circle guard
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See, it's times like this that our curse is REALLY REALLY horrible. Because we can't just ASK her 'how'd we fuck up?' And she can't answer in any fashion that implies we did something incorrect. Like her old training (which clearly wasn't enough) the only way she can learn really IS by getting the stuffing beat out of her over and over again. Although considering that even I can recognize we Counting Coup a shitton, I dunno if that'd be effective with us at the helm.

She's not just a rookie, she's a rookie that hasn't be able to ACTUALLY identify all the flaws in her tactics, despite her training style. For most people, there's only so much you can infer from getting beat up without feedback.
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>Duel

What are you supposed to do? You’re still thinking over what to do when someone calls out from the stands. It’s Sabina!
“Fight, Sofia! You can do it! You can win!”

Catalina scowls and looks over, clicking her tongue. And it is at that very moment that something rises from the water around the overgrown duelling ground and whizzes past her shoulder! The bundled up scroll strikes you right in the chest and lacking anything better to do, you catch it.
“Ah shit. Now? Now?
But you just had your last duel yesterday!

“Alright time out, time out,” you say, unrolling the message. “I need to read this.”

Catalina slowly lowers her sword.
“Really?”

“I’m afraid so. It’s the life of a public defender.”
You step out of the roses, kicking the flowers aside and trampling them underfoot as you approach the Ringmistress.
“Thank you for the duel. You didn’t have to strip for me though.”

You reach over to take your trophy and-

“What do you think you’re doing?”

“I won. Not the duel, I was never expecting to win that. But you know, I’m still going to get what I came here for.”
The appearance of your duties, made manifest in the scroll, has calmed you. This fight didn’t matter. You hadn’t been expecting to win. And now you’ve seen her moves and you’re free to take your prize. The real battle you came here to fight was over the moment you flipped that coin.


>Take the whole jacket. She practically gave it to you after all.

>Just pull off an aiguillette.

>Pluck a rose.

>Keep the wooden sword.

>Other (Specify)
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Gentlemen of the board, we need a decision
What shall we do?

I wish to make this now an exercise of practicing our ability to predict stuff.
I'm going to assume she's not going to spam Thorn Embrace.

>elegance flourish
>elegance trick
>circle guard
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>>3102934

I'm rather certain she didn't want to teach us anything but "A lesson".

I'm also not certain there is a graceful way to concede: We have to admit inferiority to do that. The only way I can imagine is to drop our sword and let her have her fun.

>>3102938

I can tell you exactly how we fucked up: We don't have the tools to get around this combo.

The only access we ever had to her was a turn advantage AND TYL, There was never a reason for her to permit the 3d4 strike, meaning we only ever had a d6 strike we could guarantee.

One. Singular.

To ever land a hit after that point, we need Brute Strike
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>>3102909
Short version, barring her being utterly incompetent? We can't. She's got us stuck in a stun lock that will let her keep building up dice until she can one shot us with ease. The second she started twisting us we lost. Best we can do now is spam CG until the match is called.
>>3102912
We're already supposed to do all 3, anons refuse to learn though. Ouro has been all but beating our face in with these 3 rules and it still isn't taking.

>>3102920
>Because the way to win this fight was to enter it with a degenerate strategy involving our composure pool which we have no synergy or practice with.

Spoken like someone not paying attention at all. WE could have won with this build and likely would have. Ouro did say we could win AFTER we selected loadout, which means something. You're still ignoring the entire point of the quest. That being it is better to anticipate your opponent's action and table them, than to spam counting coup to make death stacks or look for the hax way to win.

>Yes. 3d4 strike had a chance to break her stance. Only after she revealed Pinch the Stem did we discover we will never again have dice above d4, and never again be able to roll them.
And it is the Player's fault for not anticipating such a technique on a god damn master duelist. What did you think her skills were going to be just like her weak apprentice's? Or that she did not have a way to fuck us over? Assuming that is folly. Every real duelist si going to have some sort of skill that will throw us for a loop, a ringmistress is going to be even worse.

>And, since you missed it: CATALINA MISPLAYED: SHE NEVER NEEDED TO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY.
True, but she does not consider us a threat, we KNOW this. because guess what? she knows how we operate which is build doomstack then swing to win. IT's old predictable and easily countered.

>We only ever had a 11/36 chance of having a chance to beat her if she took us seriously, and that would have required giving up our small win that we guaranteed.

Our win isn't going to get us anything because she isn't going to let us take a trophy.

>>3102927
>Makes the correct play in this duel
>made the one that made it so we could have tabled the asshole who necked us if he had not missed the next vote and had anons vote for the retarded first option and ignore his vote that while not perfect would have won us the match.

I know EXACTLY how action economy works, how the dice work, and how Ouro want us to actually play. That being anticipating our enemies and then beating them. Not spamming counting coup like a mouth gibbering retard to get a doom stack and then losing because we swung until they beat us.


>>3102934
She did not want to teach us, she was wanting to insult us and force us to fuck off over judging her over Sabino. She was Threatening us, we just refused to back down. The lesson she wishes to teach is to have us stop stepping to our "betters".
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>>3102947
>Take the whole jacket. She practically gave it to you after all.
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I was planning on letting the third queue play out before the scroll showed up but this was still a tie and I had work soon sooo...
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>>3102947
>>Pluck a rose.
I'd rather have a rose
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>>3102947
>>Pluck a rose.

>>3102959
So was I right she'd just spam twist until she could Ohko us?

>>3102950
I'll admit I was wrong about the trophy,
You're still falling into the "we need better skills not to be better players" mindset.
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>>3102959
Ah, okay.
I'm still really disappointed in this duel though.
I'm surprised how quickly everyone turned to defeatism. I don't how many of you guys do competitive combat sports or fencing or martial arts but we have a term for it 'that sinking feeling'. You get the feeling you are about to lose, but moping about it or panicking or giving up means you do actually lose.
You have to find heart and press on even if it's going against you. You can't just give up, you must press on.
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>>3102949

It really doesn't matter. Ouro calling it is the right choice. No matter how much I want to practice, she has arbitrary control over the fight; There's no meaningful decision making when it's her whims that decide when it ends.

>>3102947

>>Pluck a rose.

"Turnabout is fair."

>>3102964

The skills and players are one and the same: Selecting a brute strike build to avoid getting our tech dice ganked is the correct play. If we can earn synergy in that setup, we can sidestep her entire gimmick.

As the saying goes, a good tactic is one your people enjoy.
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>>3102970

I respect that. I chose this matchup because I want Sophia to start having that experience. From our perspective however, we know she can't win, so allowing it to continue is an exercise in padding.

We had two lines of attack to get around Unscathed. Good strikes with large dice to avoid being entangled, or a blitz. She should have been able to counter a blitz, so a decent sized strike on the top of queue 2 was a good shot.

Only she has a hard counter for that. Drawing board time.
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I think now would be a good time to review our choices

Counting Coup, I agree with this opening move but the next not so much

Crushing Grip vs ring's chosen

>Ring’s Chosen: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. If you bear the insignia of a duelling Ring and there are no Obstacles present, generate an Obstacle that matches your Ring. At the end of the turn, if the Obstacle was created by this Technique, transform Ring’s Chosen into it’s Ring-specific form.

Think carefully, what could counter this?

Counting Coup vs Skin Unthorned

>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.

What can counter this?

Counting Coup vs Pinch The Stem!

>Pinch The Stem: [TRICK]Transform the single highest dice in both of your Technique Pools into a d4.If your opponent is Entangled, this effect applies to all dice in both of your Technique Pools.

What can counter this?
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>>3102970
Issue is here, it could take 3-4 hours for us to lose, and unfortunately we feel directly into her trap because of doomstack building.


Literally the only way for us to win at that point was to bet on her being incompetent. She isn't. assuming she would be is folly.


>>3102973
>The skills and players are one and the same:'

Untrue. The game designer can nerf, buff or alter the game or quest to get the playstyle they want. What ouro wants and has wanted since the beginning is us anticipating our enemies and counter them. Hence us getting elegance, something literally no one else has, as a starting move.

Even WITH Brute strike we'd still have lost, because we'd have eaten ourself up and given her once we realized about her trap, 5 free turns, and that is assuming the 6 clears her. With that much time? She'd still wipe us EASILY.


The only duels we ever have truly won we've anticipated our foes to at least some extent. Ouro has either beaten the fuck out of us or just called the match, when we do not. Given that, the fact you refuse to see what is clearly the goal of the qm with this combat system is, is both stunning and incredibly frustrating.


You're basically the demanding the qm make a fairly easy system idiot proof so we can win at all. This is not about dice and math and roleplay path of dungeons d20, it's a system that relies on intuition too.
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>>3103007
see>>3102145
It was the LITERAL hard counter to her move.

We could nto stop the ring, but we could have taken advantage of it

The only way to stop the stance is break her d6s

we can't stop pinch, best we can do is too elegance, trying to guess right, to build dice.
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>>3103015
I sort of wanted other anons to look at and come up with the same conclusion as you or something similar. I just posted it in the hope it can be a learning experience for people who want to regularly participate in a duel.
Shit is not easy to understand, I can see why people try to keep out of the way or just spam the same move set.
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>>3102973
I have to disagree as well with the 'skills(abilities) and the players are one at the same. A good player can maximize the efficiency of poor skills...but that doesn't mean they aren't poor skills all the same. Similarly, the best moves can seem useless in the hands of bad players because they don't know how best to utilize those moves.
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Vote is called, writing.
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Man I was hoping to finish the event before we got called to our job. We should at least say goodbye and another congratulations to Sabina before we leave. And walk Maccio home or something.
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>>3103009

Sophia is not defined by Elegance. She's defined by Monkey Sight.

Elegance is a powerful move, but one that relies on excellent knowledge of the enemy, which is something we now have.

It's also entirely useless against Pluck The Stem: It's always 2d4 against her.

An attrition build using Gloriana's toys may have worked. If we had won against Sabino and Terenzi, we could have had Guillotine strats to sidestep the issue handily.

Elegance is a powerful moveset, but limited against opponents that we cannot compel actions against.

Terenzi had an elegance strat, and it destroyed us with one badly planned queue.

Catalina can entirely ignore an elegance strategy if we don't have a tool to crack her from the beginning.

>>3103019
>>3103015

I want to ask again: How do you rectify this plan with a queue 1 Unscathed?

Because that's 100% the right choice if she knows our moveset.

>>3103021

The point I'm trying to make is that there's a constant obsession with the elegance strategy: Which is effective and powerful, but relies on thoughtful play.

It's also pure kryptonite, because it relies on expert players. When these expert players make a mistake, or are overruled, the strategy gets weaker as a brain drain occurs.

This is why I'm of the personal opinion that we need to get Sofia a more proactive and robust toolset.

Elegance is an excellent move, but it's also punishing to whiff. The reason Counting Coup is favored is explicitly because it lacks that inconsistency.

I'll admit this perspective is significantly more philosophical, but the core is very simple: If we are consistently losing because our player base isn't deploying their tools effectively, we should consider using tools that don't have the same skill floor.

We certainly aren't going to attract back the big brain Anons by whiffing more Elegance.
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>>3103021

This quest, for all intensive purposes, is a deck-builder game. We can work with what we have and come up with all the timing attacks and elegance predictions in the world, but at the end of the day every single duel we've fought in we've been blindsided at least once by individuals who are about even at our level. As this fight shows, the top duelists in this city are miles above us and even if we got a 'perfect combo' off it would all go to waste if the dice rolled nothing but 1's.

We need to not just get new moves, but to improve our existing ones. Fool's Guillotine, while requiring Executioner's Blade to work properly, is a slightly different version of Elegance that works well against opponents that spam the same move over and over again because not only do we benefit from accurate predictions but it also completely shuts down what was predicted whereas Elegance, even if we guess right, we still have to eat what gets thrown our way.

If I can suggest something, Ouro, would you be willing to have a kind of 'To Do List'? Something simple and condensed that we'd compile at the end of every thread going forwards to post in the new one that way all the discussion that occurs is not lost.
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>>3103052
Sure. It'd have to be all player contributions though.
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>>3103056

Perfectly fine with me.
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>>3103049
>>3103052

Honestly, I'm worried that Ouro might've grossly overestimated the capabilities of his audience from word go.
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>>3103049
The question is not what she knows about our moveset. It is predicting an unknown opponent's moveset in reaction to ours.
For example, think carefully why did you choose crushing grip and counting coup?
Why is an extremely important question. I assume it's because you believed this would quickly generate the dice you want. You didn't think the opponent would counter it somehow and felt that you'll be able to get through your sequence without being stopped?
However, if you think carefully back in other duels, this is our go to. An extremely predictable set of choices that opponents will take advantage of.
If you believe our opponent knows our typical opening move, would you still go for it? You would probably change it up so that you break your pattern.
Dueling is a learning process, we are trying to catch them out too. They have their own patterns too, we have to be flexible.
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>>3103049
>>3103052
Even with the very very very best moves we'd still lose if we're predictable. We're terrible at that. Regardless of how good or bad our techs are, we never use them right.


and even if we had Brute Strike, it'd still have lost.
Be that 6 is unlikely to beat her, so is that 8, meaning we'd need to lose all composure to simply stance break her in all likelihood.

>>3103052
This is true, and like in most games, knowing what to pick when is essential. Anticiation of the enemy is paramount, and anosn SUCK at it. You could give them the most overpowered skills possible and they would still lose more likely than not.


>>3103065
He absolutely did. His anons have been super fucking retarded since he started Snakecatcher, him expecting that to change was a folly on his part.
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>>3103071
Like, it's a habit that most Rose ring then stance? Because that way they can build more dice faster?
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>Pluck a rose.

You squat down beside her and, not even paying her a glance, find a rose you can take hold of without slicing yourself open upon the thorns. You have to do it quick before they recede, the queer architecture of the duelling ring calling them back as quickly as they came.
You pinch the stem gently and break it off, the large red bloom sitting on your palm like a particularly floral stigmata.

“You’re a very good duellist, Signorina d’Passero. I just wish you were a better person too.”
You wonder how many people hear you say that. Not enough.

But what does this rose mean to you? It’s a flower of battle, sprung up for the sake of a duel. It is a cornerstone of the style that Catalina presides over her. You might as well have her in the palm of your hand instead of a flower.

>Due to the unique nature of this contest, you are able to take duel Techniques and abilities!

>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.

>Pinch The Stem: [TRICK]Transform the single highest dice in both of your Technique Pools into a d4.If your opponent is Entangled, this effect applies to all dice in both of your Technique Pools.

>Hot For Teacher: [ABILITY]Whenever an opponent loses Composure dice, you may temporarily teach them a move. They lose whatever technique they had selected for the round they were damaged and gain that move instead for the rest of the duel. You cannot teach them a technique they already have. When an opponent breaks your Composure, they may undo one lesson of their choice.

>Living Insignia: [ABILITY]The silver rose blooms inside of you. You always count as bearing a Rose Blossom Ring Insignia and you have a pretty sweet looking set of tattoos to go with it.

>Going Bust: [ABILITY] Why would you take this? You can if you want, you suppose.
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>>3103065

I actually like this system, though it would definitely benefit from having a single player at the controls. Also, I can see Ouro has put a lot of thought into our duelist opponents and that, in every fight thus far sans this one, we have had an almost even chance of winning/losing. Sophia, however, is a reactionary duelist at her base and when our opponents frequently bring in new moves, new setups, and with Sabino technically, new rules to the system being a reactionary duelist is nothing but a detriment until all the cards are on the table, at which point we're way far behind. Just my two cents.
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>>3103082
Ahahah that hot for teacher choice.
I have to admit, I do find hot teacher's sexually dominating me to be a great turn on but such a relationship is way the fuck abusive without mutual respect and boundaries.
Man I feel sorry for Sabino.
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>>3103088
That's Catalina's duel ability. She never used it during the duel itself but I figured it'd been demonstrated out of the duel arena plenty of times.
She can teach someone anything, whether they want to or not.
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>>3103080
Something like that. Sabino was a great warm up, it's too bad I didn't participate in that particular duel though. I wasn't around and I wasn't at all familiar with the dueling system after participating in the thread a bunch of times.
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>>3103086
While this is true up to a point, you can usually figure out what ouro will pull when. It's how I got us that Round up on Terenzi before we pissed it away later.


When you have a decent idea of your enemy's tempo and what they except you to do in turn? You can still gank someone who is alledgedly a lot better. Issue is most anosn cannot intuit their enemies.

(like with Terenzi I expected a trick tied to executioner since we saw everything else on his other 2 trees.)
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>>3103082

>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.
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>>3103082
>Pinch The Stem: [TRICK]Transform the single highest dice in both of your Technique Pools into a d4.If your opponent is Entangled, this effect applies to all dice in both of your Technique Pools.
Not only does this function as the same as Crushing grip when we're on defense which is when we ever use crushing grip, it also has the benefit of not letting complete fucking retards voting for crushing grip va focussed blow thinking it'd delete the highest dice. I mean, the benefit of triggering before the strike.
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>>3103102
Hm, that's good reasoning
I chose skin unthorned because I like the idea of preventing damage
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>>3103102
Not quite the same, a d4 can still kill you if they have enough.
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>>3103082
>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.
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>>3103071

I chose it anticipating the defenses based on what Sabino had.

The alternative was trying to slip behind an absolute defense. and possibly ending queue one with a pile of d4's that I already knew wouldn't work unless a 6 dice strike was managed.

Again. The 3d4 strike would have worked, but until we saw Pinch, there was no reason to believe that was going to be our one and only shot.

And again. If that was anticipated, that goes right back to 1d6.

Crushing Grip was chosen to avoid generating dice because I was concerned that she might have had a version of Sabino's dice steal.

>>3103082

Hot for Teacher

If you want to double down on Elegance, this is it. We can disrupt an opponent, give them an ability they cannot effectively use and bait them into early strikes to recover their toys.

Skin Unthorned has PP synergy: It effectively removes the downside of filling the enemy's strike pool by keeping them unusable.

Living Insignia is a possible choice for future development to filch their gimmick, and a seriously delightful RP option if we want to hammer home that Catalina somehow managed to lose more than she got in this spar.

I personally believe that Unthorned is the best to go with PP, but I'm not voting yet.
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>>3103082
Most of these depend on learning the rose style, which would take time and I don't want to do it. So the best choice for duels would be

>Hot For Teacher: [ABILITY]Whenever an opponent loses Composure dice, you may temporarily teach them a move. They lose whatever technique they had selected for the round they were damaged and gain that move instead for the rest of the duel. You cannot teach them a technique they already have. When an opponent breaks your Composure, they may undo one lesson of their choice.

because it would disrupt synergy of our opponents, which would be huge. It's the OP move anons are so desperate for. But the best overall choice is obviously:

>Going Bust: [ABILITY] Why would you take this? You can if you want, you suppose.

so we can EXPAND in front of Maccio
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>>3103082
>>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.
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>>3103082
>>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.
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I'm still trying to figure out a simple way to understand the principles of the dueling system.

Imagine you have a deck of cards have a variety of moves and abilities. You must choose six moves and one ability out of that deck to make your own personal deck. Choose your load out, but remember it's locked when chosen. Ability is optional, you can opt to have none.
Each round, you have to choose three cards from your personal deck, you can take the same action 3 times.
But remember your opponent will be presenting three cards too. If their cards counter yours it's going to do something bad, maybe even end you and the duel.

To damage your opponent, you must generate technique points into your pool. You can either use a card like counting coup to generate or counter your opponent by predicting their card.
Striking power will come from this technique pool...
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>>3103082
>Going Bust: [ABILITY]
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>>3103082
>Living Insignia: [ABILITY]The silver rose blooms inside of you. You always count as bearing a Rose Blossom Ring Insignia and you have a pretty sweet looking set of tattoos to go with it.
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>>>>3103082
>Pinch the stem
We're much more likely to get the stance off any other rose member.
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>>3103130
ignore this

>>3103309
makes a good point

>>3103082
>Pinch The Stem: [TRICK]Transform the single highest dice in both of your Technique Pools into a d4.If your opponent is Entangled, this effect applies to all dice in both of your Technique Pools.
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>>3103309

And in the meantime, we have a trick that butchers our big dice.

Unthorned is immediately useful. Hell. It's immediately useful in a rematch.

I'm all for building power, but it could be a half dozen duels before we get another crack at a Rose, and we should select the tool that's immediately usable accordingly.
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>>3103335
I need to think about that a moment.

Unthorned is very useful against another Rose, and puts pressure to control what moves the opponent does.

Pinch, on the other hand, is just plain hard to learn. But it greatly reduces the damage we risk whenever we bring PP.

I can't say that my choice is objectively better, but I'm sticking with it like a greedy bastard.
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>>3103356
Unthorned has decent synergy with Crushing Grip as it locks the low dice while CrG takes care of the higher ones. Coupled with PP and Circle Guard we can really cockblock the enemy's ability to strike.
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>>3102746
Okay mate, chill down.

We're using CC over and over because we have NO other tech generator except Elegance. And whatever you do, to win you have to have tech dice.

Second, our opening queue was based on the assumption Catalina had Snicker-Snack, and will use it on us specifically because she knows we would spam CC. If she did have SS, which was reasonable to expect because it's an amazing move, your vote would've left us striking with 1d4.
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>>3103082
>>Living Insignia: [ABILITY]The silver rose blooms inside of you. You always count as bearing a Rose Blossom Ring Insignia and you have a pretty sweet looking set of tattoos to go with it.
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>>3103007
Of course we could counter her every move with hindsight. We didn't have this info when we voted. This is a wrong approach.
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>Going Bust
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>>3103082
>Hot For Teacher

We can disrupt synergies, devoid opponents of tech generators and all kinds of other shenanigans.


>>3103467
>>3103264
I didn't think this quest had actual trolls, but I was mistaken

>>3103425
>>3103267
Yeah, let's put up fake insignia of a Ring we don't belong to and don't qualify for, and which has a ladyboner for tradition and a vengeful Ringmaster. Surely this couldn't backfire in any way.
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>>3103471
you assume we can reliably deal composure damage. Unless we get a second ability slot, we need some techs before taking that.
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>>3103473
We actually can. We only need to destroy a d4, we can do it.
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Forced to choose between my love and my duty, I must abide by 'not losing more duels'.

>>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.
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>>3103082

>Skin Unthorned
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Vote called for Skin Unthorned!
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Alright, I’ve finished eating dinner.

>Skin Unthorned

Sliding your coat back on, you pin the rose to your lapel. With this, you’ll be able to replicate an essential part of her unbreakable defence. Not the whole cloying thing of course but it should be strong all the same. Weak attacks will impede you not, leaving you fully prepared to turn aside and blunt the stronger ones. ‘

>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.

Catalina starts buttoning up her jacket, drawing it up to cover the shining tattoos that cover her entire torso. You get in your last eyeful for while she might still be your enemy, you can’t deny that you had a sense of perverse enjoyment in being locked so thoroughly and comprehensively out of the duel by someone in a thin camisole and not much else.
“Is that all you really wanted?”

“Yes. Thanks for that, by the way. And don’t discipline Sabina too hard, alright? She meant well.”
And with that, you heft the scroll and leave. And you don’t leave the ring a loser.

Waiting for you are Maccio and Sabina, both of whom look surprised to see you still in one piece.

“A shame about the scroll,” Sabina chirps. “A few more of what you were doing and you would have won!”
That’s probably the curse.

“She has a beautiful fighting style,” Maccio says. “I’d ask her to model for me if it weren’t surely a grave insult.”

Sabina flushes red.
“She has a great many beautiful things.”

“Hey Maccio, I have to be off. Do you mind if I abandon you in this colosseum filled with beautiful women?”

“Not at all. But say, how long do you have before you have to show up?”

“Over an hour, as usual. Why?”

“Because I was talking to a man just earlier, as we were watching your bout. He’s a writer of some sort and he says that he’d love to speak to you at some time. You caught his interest.”
>Stay for a while. You want to talk to Sabina anyway so you might as well follow up on Maccio’s newfound friend.

>No, you like to go meet your clients right away!

>Stay just for a few minutes.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3103575
>No, you like to go meet your clients right away!
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>>3103575
>Please refer him to my home address, you know it
>I really have to go right away
Mostly so that we have enough tine to watch our opponent's fights at the fountain
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>>3103575
Seconding >>3103591
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>>3103575
>>Stay for a while. You want to talk to Sabina anyway so you might as well follow up on Maccio’s newfound friend.
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Vote called, writing.
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>Please refer him to my home address, you know it
>I really have to go right away

“Well please just refer him to my home address, you know it. I really ought to go right away. Are you sure you’ll be fine here?”

Maccio just gives you a shrug.
“I’ll somehow survive. Sabina here has been nice enough to introduce me to some very interesting people.”

“The Rose has a great interest in certain areas of art and philosophy,” Sabina says.

“Alright. Well, as long as you’re not Maccia next time I see you again, alright?”

“No Sofia, that’s only for Ring members,” Sabina protests. “We don’t...we don’t force it on people!”

“Right, sorry.”
You make for the outer ring, being followed by cheers and shouts of encouragement. The Rose Blossom Ring seems to have enjoyed your sorry attempt or...perhaps it is just your curse transforming jeers and boos.

You’ve nearly made it out when someone grabs hold of your hand. You turn to see Sabina, panting slightly from where she must have run to catch up with you.
“I really do think you did well,” she says.

“I don’t need to be told that. I already know it.”

“Of course. That redirection maneuver she was doing...it’s a very hard skill to learn. It represents the pinnacle of the style. Everyone loses to it at first.”

“I dunno, give me a few more tries and I think I’ll get it down. Thanks for the invitation Sabina. This might have seemed like a bit of a mess to you but it’s just what I needed! Today didn’t start off well.”

“Do you want to talk about it?”

“And deprive the celebration of its leading lady? Don’t be silly. You don’t have to worry about me.”
You desperately fight back the urge to ruffle her hair.
“What did you do with your hair, by the way? It wasn’t that long when you were a man.”

“I got it stretched out for today.”

“Just for hair? That must have cost a lot.”

“It did but not nearly as much as getting this dress fitted.”
She gives a little twirl and for the first time, you gain an appreciation for how good the floofy thing is at implying curves that she does not, in fact, have.
“How is my reflection doing, by the way?”

“Good, good. I’ve kept them in the curtain to save on complications.”

“Do you want to talk about what happened between mine and yo-”

“Haha, no. Stay cute, Sabina. Ciao!”

“Ciao!”

It’s been a romantically confusing day thus far. Hopefully it improves soon.

******

Your client today is in the Somn District and thus not all that far from the site of your debut. Hopefully it’ll go as well as it did then and not like it’s been going lately. No, you can’t afford to think like that! Not when you’ve learned a brand new technique!
You’re going to absolutely crush this duel. You can only hope that the subject of it isn’t too weird. Less quickpigs please.

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>>3103631

Your scroll guides you to a compact little two-storey house hanging out over the canal from a larger building like some kind of tumour. Despite that, it looks pretty well-kept and fairly spacious. Whys a person in as good as nick as this in need of a public defender?

Oh, it better not be weird shit.

You climb the stairs up to the front door and ring the little bell out front. It only takes roughly five seconds of sustained continual ringing for the door to open. The man standing in the doorway is tall and slender and silver-haired, his hair grayed beyond his years. Huh. It doesn’t look like dye...Other than that, he strikes you as a bit of a rake. He has that prettyboy sort of feel to him and he’s dressed quite formally for the occasion too, a pinstriped tunic tucked into a cream waistcoat over a set of burgundy hose.

“Ciao! My name is Sofia Pseudonym, public defender. Would you be Signore Cuocco?”

“Oh yes, that was quick. And please, call me Ennio.”
He holds his hand out to shake and you take it. He’s got a strong grip and your first impressions of a prettyboy are somewhat damaged by the feel of the calluses on his hands.
“Come inside. My house is your house.”

“Thank you.”

Inside is cramped, the doorway opening directly into a kitchen that despite a waist-high counter separating it from the rest of the room, seamlessly overflows into some kind of workshop. A large table takes up the majority of the space, stacked with little planks of wood and half-built models. It would appear that your client is somewhat of a sculptor, though it does not seem that he carves his pieces from a solid block of wood. The creations scattered around the room are primarily buildings and boats and each one seems to have been put together from even smaller planks of wood.
Tools of various purposes litter both the table and the floor and one of the walls is solely devoted to shelves upon shelves, each one holding a little model. Many of them, most particularly the ships, are crammed into bottles whose necks are so narrow that they shouldn’t have been able to fit in there in the first place!

“My hobby,” Ennio says somewhat apologetically, clearly used to explaining himself. “They’re called models. It’s a sort of new fad, it’s only really caught on in the last few years.”


>”Look, this isn’t going to be anything weird is it? I just want to know beforehand.”

>”How do you get them into the bottles?”

>Share your hobby for picture puzzles, though this seems less ethically ambiguous and far more time-consuming..

>Just get to the case.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3103632
>>”How do you get them into the bottles?”

Ouro last thread was amazing but Jesus dude, what the fuck. Casual body tailoring is crazy. Did sabino only extend his hair?
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>>3103632
>”How do you get them into the bottles?”
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>>3103641
Yes. It's quite expensive but this is a special occasion!
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>>3103632
>”How do you get them into the bottles?”

>Share your hobby for picture puzzles, though this seems less ethically ambiguous and far more time-consuming..
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3096999
>Sure, but you the option to do a more tactful retreat was there.
Wouldn't have been as funny.
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>”How do you get them into the bottles?”

You idly peruse the shelves, making sure not to accidentally bump into anything. There’s a lot of bottled ships, ranging from canal-boats and gondolas to the deeper-hulled fisherboats that go outside the City and trawl the plateau to models that, to a certain scale, look truly massive and have whole arrays of sails. Foreign ships designed to sail on water a good deal deeper and less tame than your own. And of course, each and every one of them is far too big to have ever just been dropped through the bottle’s neck.
You look at them with a little suspicion.
“How do you get them into the bottles?”

“Oh that’s simple enough. There’s a few ways. Some people build them with the masts and the sails laid down flat, slide them into the bottle and use strings to set them upright once they’re through the neck.”

“But some of these boat models would be too big, even with all the fancy stuff lying down!”

“You’ve got a good eye, Signorina Pseudonym.”

“Just Sofia is fine.”

“Then Sofia it shall be! Yes, those would be impossible to do that way. But if you have the right tools, long-handled tweezers and the like, you can have every part built and then assemble it all together inside the bottle.”

You blink. That’s significantly more work than just a puzzle!
“Really?”

“Really.”

“But that seems so outlandish. I’m sorry but it’s a little hard to believe, isn’t it? How do you really do it?”

He chuckles for a moment and shrugs.
“Alright, you got me. I don’t use that method. Instead I just do this.”
He pulls an empty bottle from the shelf and motions you over to inspect a model of a fancy foreign galleon. The model is easily over a foot long. And yet he touches the open mouth of the bottle to it and with a small twist of perspective, the model is now barely more than a few inches and sitting comfortably within the glass.
“There’s a certain trick to doing it but I’ve always just had the knack.”

You nod, your curiosity satisfied.
“Yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Is what you said earlier some kind of joke you tell to people who don’t know about models? About building them inside the bottle like some kind of maniac?”

“Mostly. Some people do do it that way though.”

“They’re very detailed models. Smell a bit though.”

“That’s just the glue. And yes, a lot of people rate my models quite highly. I sell some, from time to time, but only when I can bare to part with them.”

So he sells some occasionally, not always. Which implies that he’s in no great need of money. So why a public defender?
“And is that what this challenge is about?”

“Hrm? Oh no, sorry if I mislead you. The duel you’ll be fighting has nothing to do with this. Instead it’s related to a certain business partner of mine.”

This is more familiar ground and thankfully so.
“What kind of business?”

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>>3103705

“I’m a money-lender. Yes, I know it’s not a very beloved profession but I’m not like the kind you’d see in a stageplay. It’s all above the board, I swear.”

“Relax, I’m not going to judge.”
Yet.
“So this is an issue with a client?”

“With a partner. Tell me Sofia, how much do you know about lending?”

“You give people coin and they give you coin back and the longer it takes the more they have to pay?”

“That’s the basic gist of it, yes, but where do you think the starting lump comes from?”

“Lump?”

“Sorry, a bit of a technical term there. To be a successful lender, you need to have a lot of loans running at any given time and it might take quite some time before you see dividends. That’s a lot of coin to be throwing into a hole. So generally, what most lenders do is acquire an investment from a wealthy partner. This starting fund, the ‘lump’ is what lenders actually lend, not coin from their own personal pockets. And in turn the partner gets a cut and ensures that in the long run, they receive several times the value of the lump they put in s-”

‘Wait,” you say. “Are you telling me that money lenders in turn lend money from bigger lenders?”
You gaze into the void, an odd truth uncovered about something you never really thought about. Is this really how the City works?

“It’s called finance. You could see it as lending to lend but it’s basically acting as a freelance consultant for the wealthy. The partners pay us in the hope that, through our lending, they receive a greater sum of coin. It’s not a bad thing to do with any spare and idle wealth you might have lying about, as long as its reliab-”

“Right, right. No I get it. So what’s the issue with this partner?”

“Her name is Signorina Bilotti. Donatella Bilotti but I doubt you’ve heard of her. She’s a scion of some merchant house. I’ve had an excellent investment partnership with her for nearly three years now but she seems to have run into some financial issue so...she’s withdrawn the lump.”

“And?”

“She can’t just do that! When you enter into an investment, there are contracts involved, just as there would be with me and my clients on the other end of the whole thing. But she’s tried to do it anyway and while it’s disputed it’s out of my reach! I’ve been having to fund business myself! She’s claiming that I broke the contract first or some nonsense.”

“I understand. Don’t worry Ennio, this is a pretty classic case of duel bullying. She’s hoping that the threat of the challenge will make you back down. If she was serious, she’d have made the donation required to get a lawyer to review the terms of the contract.”

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>>3103707

“Well I won’t,” he says, somewhat defiantly. “That coin isn’t hers to just take anymore! Especially not without warning me first! But...but I may have been foolish in my efforts to keep the business going. I know this might not look like the home of a poor man but right now, nearly all my coin is tied up in loan investments. It had to be, to keep going after she did that without warning. I’ve got no coin to give a duellist up front.”
Though he’ll never say or even imply it, you doubt he’s happy with the idea of being saddled with a public defender for such an important challenge. But that’s how it is sometimes. The City only gives you a limited timeframe to find representation before it appoints you a civil servant.

Perhaps you could set his heart at ease…


>”Don’t you worry about it anymore. I’ve got an undefeated record.”

>”You probably don’t know this but you’re in luck. I’m a public defender alright but I’m a GOOD one.”

>”It’s alright, I’ll handle this. You’ll have this ‘lump’ back in no time at all.”

>”...Do you know what kind of duellist this Donatella would hire. No reason to ask though, I’m going to win.”

>"Look man I don't want to sound mean but have you considered selling all this?"

>Other (Specify)
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>>3098407
>And standing beside the woman who is surely the Ringleader of the Rose Blossom is another woman who seems to embody the Ringleader’s exact opposite. Where the other is tall, she is short, where the other is commanding, she is shyly staring at the ground, where the Ringleader looks as if she was etched from stone, she looks as if a wind will blow her away at any moment. She’s wearing a poofy pink-and-black dress that spreads out in several diaphanous layers outside that of the main dress that calls to mind the petals of a rose. It swathes her nearly completely and her long brown hair frames a face that, while also somewhat familiar, seems to embody the very essence of a fragile and vulnerable beauty. A lot of people are staring at her and you can’t blame them.
Yeahhhh, that's Sabino. Poor bullied Sabino, lol.
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>>3103708
>”...Do you know what kind of duellist this Donatella would hire. No reason to ask though, I’m going to win.”
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>>3100821
>“Don’t worry,” she purrs, “I’m always willing to share. You’re welcome to her whenever you want.”
>Sabina winces, doing her best to appear as if she is retreating from Catalina’s touch without actually moving.
Grrrrrrrr.
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>>3103708
>Could you tell me more about the contract? I need to know what terms she's claiming were broken when we negotiate.
>>”...Do you know what kind of duellist this Donatella would hire. No reason to ask though, I’m going to win.”
>>"Look man I don't want to sound mean but have you considered selling all this?"
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>>3103708
>>”...Do you know what kind of duellist this Donatella would hire. No reason to ask though, I’m going to win.”
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>>3103708
Ask what terms of redress he wants. Just the cash he's entitled to?
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Blegh, I'm drifting in and out of sleep. Vote called, writing. This will be the last update.
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>>3102819
>As for Brute strike? Still does nothing. It's our lowest technique die. One of them. Which means 1d4.
No, it siphons ou lowest Composure die. That mean, we'd start rolling d6s, d8s, d10s with it eventually.
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>>3103007
>What could have countered Catalina?
If we had put out own Obstacle up first, that would have blocked Ring's Chosen.
If we had CCed thrice and attacked the moment her Skin Unthorned was up, her Pinch the Stem would have only been able to transform our d8 since swe weren't Entangled yet, leaving us a 1/6 chance to break her Stance.
Brute Strike would not have worked until we lost our d4s in Comp.
Gloriana's Flashing Steel would have been great in this duel, as would other Techniques that generate dice directly into the Strike Pool.
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>”...Do you know what kind of duellist this Donatella would hire? No reason to ask though, I’m going to win.”

You’d love to make all sorts of promises but..truth be told, you haven’t had a great record lately. But that doesn’t mean you won’t make him feel better. You’re literally unable to tell him that you’ll do badly. And he’s unable to question you on the matter.
“So, do you know what kind of duellist this Donatella would hire? I’m not asking for any particular reason though, I’m going to win.”

“I don’t know and...and…,”
He stops for a moment.
“You sound awfully confident in that.”

“Of course I am,” you say. “No matter who it is, I’ll do my very best and defeat them! Just leave it to me.”

“Yes. Looking at you, I’m sure you could beat anyone.”
He looks extremely confused.

“I’d still like to know what I’m likely to face however. Just to be polite.”

“You really are going to win!”

“Yes? Is there a problem with that?”

Ennio’s confusion has segued into something else, something stranger.
“I can’t say anything else. You’re going to win. It’s just about certain, isn’t it?”

“Are you feeling alright? You should stop talking for a little while.”
Why is he running himself into your curse like this?

“People say that public defenders are spineless good-for-nothings but you’ve proven them wrong, haven’t you? You’re the best of the lot and you’ll beat anyone.”

You shy away just a few inches more. His weird onset of mania is somewhat contagious.
“What are you trying to say? I know I’m great and sexy and invincible, this is old news, but you’re running right into my cur-”

“It’s fine .I just hadn’t expected to be so lucky. In fact, it’s just downright insulting that someone like you works for no pay at all. That’s not right. I should-”

“I thought you had no coin left to pay anyone?”

“What about one of those bottled ships? When you win, you can take your pick of any of them. Any of them at all.”

“Oh!,” you say, turning away from him to face the shelves again. He’s reacting a bit oddly but you’re not going to turn down a free useless thing. There’s no way you’d go for something as simple and familiar as a gondola either. It’s got to be one of those big foreign ships or nothing.

It is at this point of time that Ennio hits you in the head from behind with one of the empty bottles. Or more accurately, you feel something gently tap against your head and turn to see him holding the open mouth of a bottle to your head.
“Seriously, what’s wrong with you? And put that thing down or I-”

You experience a small twist of perspective. Only for you, it’s not so small. The floor drops away and everything goes blurry and you are falling, falling through some kind of narrow chute…

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>>3103779
“I’ll take it away from...you?”
Your voice echoes back to you from every angle. Your are suddenly sitting down, having been dropped on your butt. You are sitting on glass. You are surrounded by glass. It takes you a moment for your mind to catch up.

You’re inside a bottle.

“Hey!,” you shout, standing up as best as you are able. “Just what do you think you’re doing?”
Outside, through the glass, the room has changed. Or more accurately, it’s stayed exactly the same and you’ve changed. Yes, it might look enormous but it’s not because it’s grown. It’s because you’ve shrunk.

Ennio gingerly lifts the bottle, his body filling up your field of vision. The glass blurs things but you’d wager that between you and his middle finger, it’d be hard to tell which was taller.
“I’ll let you out later,” he says, his voice both loud and apologetic. “After the duel’s been forfeit. Oh dear. I wasn’t expecting anyone actually good to show up!”

“This is some sort of assault, it has to be! Kidnapping! My godmother’s a lawyer!”
But it’s no use. He’s no paying attention to you and you doubt you’re very loud anymore. He’s walking, carrying the bottle with you in it up towards some stairs in the back of the room. Well if you can’t get through to him, you’ll just have to get out of this mess on your own terms!

The bottle is narrow enough that when you stand in the middle with your arms stretched out, you can plant both hands into each side. Doing exactly that, you propel yourself upward towards the hole you can see up above, at the top of the glass!
Scampering up the bottle is no easy task but you are fuelled by desperation and a strange unwillingness to accept that this is actually happening to you. Besides, you’re a duellist. Bursts of explosive power are exactly what you train for.
And yet...and yet...when you reach the top, you can do little more than futility fit a hand up through the narrow neck of the battle before slipping and falling down, It’s too thin! There’s no way you’d ever squeeze through it!

You hit the bottom hard and groan, slamming your head against the thick glass. Of course. Why did you think it would work? It’s not a proper bottled model if the model can just fit through the neck. You’re small enough to stand inside the bottle but not small enough to escape it.
When people see your little bottled skeleton a few years from now, will they wonder just how the maker had fit that thing in there?

You’re in another room now. A study of some sort? It’s not easy to tell, everything’s huge and distorted through the glass. Some small amount of time has passed and you’ve just lain there at the bottom of the bottle, stunned against the glass like a bird against a window. And for much the same reason too. It’d hurt.
What? What? What?

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>>3103782

The bottle is set down on what might be a desk, though from here it looks like a vast wooden plain. Stacks of paper loom in the distance.

“You just stay put, alright? It’s vital that I lose this duel and someone like you would never lose, no? I promise I’ll let you out.”
He shakes the bottle a little, sending you sprawling across the glass like a ragdoll.

And the worst part of it all is that running through your head is only one thought:

Looks like it was about something weird after all.


>Try to talk to Ennio. Cajole him, threaten him, do something. At least learn more. You need him to get you out of here.

>Immediately start trying to shake the bottle. The sooner you can try and break this thing the better.

>Maybe you can fit through the neck if you try really hard?

>You’ve got your sword. You can cut your way out no problem.

>Do nothing until he leaves you up here. Whatever your plan, you CANNOT do it while he is watching.

>Cry.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3103783
>Do nothing until he leaves you up here. Whatever your plan, you CANNOT do it while he is watching.

We are probably have to use our momentum to knock the bottle off the shelf or whatever we are on.

Also goddamnit Ouro
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Hey. I just realized. We've started having luck in romance only once we stopped giving coins to the Amore Fountain. Coincidence???
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>>3103783
>>Try to talk to Ennio. Cajole him, threaten him, do something. At least learn more.
And then we can try to cut our way out.
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It's time for me to go to sleep. I'm going to be busy tomorrow too so I might not have time to update when I wake. Good night.
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>>3103783
>Challenge Ennio to a duel

>>3103791
I don't think what happened constitutes luck.
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>>3103797
Leaving us on such a cliffhanger. You evil, evil man.
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>>3103744
We have one d6 and one d8 neither of those alone are good odds, we’d need to composure break ourselves more likely than not to get anything.

>>3103756
Wring unthorned prevents the d4 in strike from being used. We’d still have been locked down. Doubly so since flashing steel doesn’t make dice, it just bulls enemy strike and tech dice.

>>3103783
Challenge Enio to a duel for assaulting us and preventing us from pursuing our duty.
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>>3103813
>We have one d6 and one d8 neither of those alone are good odds, we’d need to composure break ourselves more likely than not to get anything.
Yeah. If we were to go down that route, we'd need an ability that fed on our Composure and/or something like Gritted Teeth that we could use to stock up on high Comp Dice.

We'd have had d4 d6 d8 -> 2d4 d6, of which we could only use the d6, which left us a 1/6 chance to break her stance.

Yeah, Flashing Steel would only have been helpful if we'd managed to field from our Strike Pool something over a d4. If we had, though, it could have crushed an infinite number of d4s.
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>>3103798
>Challenge Ennio to a duel
>>3103813
>Challenge Enio to a duel for assaulting us and preventing us from pursuing our duty.
He's not a duelist, I don't think we can challenge him.
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>>3103847
He'd have to get a public lawyer! Some washed out loser we can beat !

>>3103783
>>Wake

Quick reminder that the constabulary building had some weird magic shit in the wake that Gloria abused to become normal sized again. We might be able to wake, escape to there and leave the wake. It could change our shape back. If not, we can report him for the crime.
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>>3103859
Lawyer... I meant duelist of course
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>>3103859
>He'd have to get a public lawyer! Some washed out loser we can beat !
But if he had to let us out in order to duel, then he wouldn't be able to trap us here in the first place.
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Guys if we duel him he's just gonna poke us inside the bottle with a needle, or leave us in there so we can't show up and forfeit by default.
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>>3103889
Nah, he can't enter the Wake so he won't be able to duel us. And if he leaves us in he will forfeit the duel because we're the challenger.
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>>3103847
We can, remember our first job? Some dip duelist in training challenged a normie. Anyone can be challenged.

>>3103879
Either this or a conflict of interest notifying a lawyer is the point.


>>3103889
A duel had to be held in the wake not just a lol poke done.
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>>3103917
Alright, I did forget about the wake. Still, there's literally nothing stopping him from just leaving us in there. He forfeits if we don't show up because we're the challenger? Makes no sense. He doesn't even need to discuss terms with us.
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>>3103943
He forfeits if he doesn't show up. As the challenged, he has to come to us.
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>>3103954
>As the challenged, he has to come to us.

I'm not sure where you got this idea. It doesn't seem right.
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>>3103960
If he could've challenged us then get a win by not showing up, that's what wouldn't be right.
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Why don't we just cut our way out though? Our blade can easily cut glass.
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>>3104021
>Our blade can easily cut glass
What. Why.
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>>3104023
Because it's a magic sword?
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>>3104027
It's not.
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>>3104032
It's sharpened with sunlight.
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>>3103997
You're right. So why would we be able to challenge him, and then win when we don't show up if he can't do the same to us?
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>>3104078
But we will show up. We're right here.
If he chooses to leave, it's him who doesn't show up.
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>>3104100
I don't mean right now, I mean the duel itself. All he has to do is not agree to a duel at this exact spot when we decide the location and time, and we won't be able to show up. Or he agrees to this spot, and carries us somewhere else in the meantime.
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>>3103783

>Talk to Ennio

This is technically speaking duel interference.

It's pretty obvious that he's trying to use sword law to get terms enforced, and he doesn't have the other party's cooperation, because otherwise they'd just collude and have identical terms.

So we need data; otherwise we're going to be a paperweight for the next three days or so.
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>>3104138
I'm pretty sure all of that constitutes interfering with the duel
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>>3104213
If it does, he's already interfering in the current one. Making him do it again won't help us out, instead we'll just be stuck somewhere isolated until the law catches up with him. I'd rather resolve this ourselves.
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>>3104221
Yes, but if interfering makes him lose the duel, that's exactly what he wants with the current one, but not if we challenge him ourselves.
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>>3104263
I don't understand how you expect this to go. We challenge him to a duel, best case scenario is he laughs at us and sticks us in his cellar. Terms never get agreed on, we never enter the Wake, and we're still stuck in the bottle. We get out eventually, but by then we've already lost what we wanted which is not being stuck in a bottle for several days. Might as well not challenge him in the first place and just sit tight.
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>>3104279
In your scenario we lose nothing by challenging him, so why not do it?
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>>3104295
We do lose something. The chance to keep talking to him and getting him to let us out.
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>>3103783
>>You’ve got your sword. You can cut your way out no problem.
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>>3104314
>The chance to keep talking to him and getting him to let us out.

He threw us in here. He's not going to let us out.
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>>3104348

Don't be so sure. He did it in a panic. Between the fact that he cannot assess us as anything but competent, and our own marginally true claims of skill made him move quickly.

If he planned to bottle us from the get go, why would he have ever shown us the trick?
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>>3104348
What if we call him a faggot?
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>>3104348
>>3104354
Makes a good point. He was panicked, and our chances of getting out are high if we can calm him down. Challenging him to another duel is just going to freak him out more.
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I'm awake and I'll have time for an update before I leave. Vote called, writing.
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>Challenge him to a duel!

Once you’re certain that the bottle has been set down and won’t be shook anymore, you rise unsteadily to your feet. Looking out at the detritus of the desk around you, you’d estimate you’re about four inches tall right now. The desk, through the blurry lens of the glass, is a great wooden plateau crowded with familiar objects that scale has rendered foreign. Ennio is still standing by the desk, looming above you. He has to be over a hundred feet! A hundred of your feet anyway.

If you challenged him to a duel, what would happen? Would he just accept, opt to represent himself and immediately step on you? How exactly would you bleed him, even if he let you out of the bottle? And if you establish it as a duel, wouldn’t that mean that he’d get to pick terms? If he wins, would you just have to accept your fate?
Fuck it, you’ve got to try. Maybe you’ll be able to use the Wake to escape or do something else. Just don’t question how you’re supposed to win a duel when you’ve got a reach that can be measured in inches.

“Hey! This is uh….a crime against my image!”
You can’t challenge him over a kidnapping, that’s not Sword Law. That’s Street Law and, depending on the circumstances, High Law.
“Also! An act of financial damage! How am I supposed to earn coin in my career like this? And it’s probably some sort of public humiliation! These are all charges worth recompense, fucker! So I challenge you to a duel!”

Ennio doesn’t respond. As far as you can tell, though it’s not hard since you have to crane your neck and peer through thick glass, he doesn’t even react.
“Hello? Can you hear me?”

And therein lies the problem. In order for a challenge to be valid, it has to adequately delivered to the challenged party. That makes sense, right? They have to know they’ve been challenged, that’s the whole point of the challenge! And, as tiny as you are, as muffled by the glass as you are...he can’t seem to even hear you.
Come to think of it, he didn’t directly respond to anything else you’ve shouted at him, did he? You’re probably nothing more than the squeaking of a mouse right now, especially in this bottle.


>Get his attention by thumping on the glass. Hopefully he’ll put his face up to the bottle and he’ll be able to hear you.

>Get his attention by scratching the glass with your sword instead.

>Go limp and wait for him to leave. Talking is probably a mistake.

>Other (Specify)
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This whole train of logic confuses me. Why are you guys challenging him to a duel when he can throw us across the room right now?

Why aren't we trying to escape?
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>>3104416
>Go limp and wait for him to leave. Talking is probably a mistake.

Can we please just escape when he leaves instead of you guys trying to be clever? Pretty please?
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>>3104416
>>Go limp and wait for him to leave. Talking is probably a mistake.
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>>3104416
My idea hinged on the assumption that letting us out of the bottle would return us to the normal size because of how his perspective trick works. But Ouro seems to imply it's not so. Okay then.
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>>3104416
>Pound on the glass to get his attention, but give up on challenging him to a duel. Ask why he's doing this instead. Tell him we can always throw the duel. Choosing not to win is within our capabilities, just as beating anyone effortlessly is.
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>>3104416


>Go limp and wait for him to leave. Talking is probably a mistake.

Also, start plotting on how to get out. Is there a way to knock the bottle off something and get it broken?
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>>3104447
Yes. We are on a desk and it's a glass bottle. Just use our momentum, knock it over, and roll it off like a hamster wheel.

We should try the sword first see if it does anything, but we need to wait until he leaves.
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>>3104416
>>Other (Specify)
>Exercise.
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>>3104416
>Use the wake to walk out of the freaking bottle.
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>>3104489
Not sure it works like that. Didn't we need Sabino and Sofia to start the Wake duel to get out of the manor?

If it works I'm all for it, but Ouro should be able to tell us.
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>>3104416
>Switch to Maccio's perspective. Maybe you can use it to gain not just his perspective on art, but on space and size.
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>>3104537
Now that's an idea. I'll second this in addition to my original vote.
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>>3104416
>>3104537
adding this to my vote here >>3104489
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I don't even know what you guys mean by this.
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>>3104551
Maccio's perspective might let us figure out the trick and reverse it?
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>>3104556
Oh, you mean with the glasses. Fair enough.
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>>3104551
Dude said his trick was with perspective and he just had a knack for it. Perspective is part of art.

Doesn't sound like it's going to work though with that reaction.
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>>3104551
Moving us into the bottle involved some kind of trick of perception, right?

So switching perspectives might let us see the inside of the bottle as too small to contain us(which will hurt like a bitch, but at least we're out), or figure out how to get through the bottle mouth.

Or maybe switching to Maccio's perspective will mean that, since he hasn't been "tricked" yet, we'll be unaffected by whatever happened. I dunno.
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Alright, I've got some time from what I said was happening today. Time enough for some updates! Vote called and writing.
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>Go limp and wait for him to leave. Talking is probably a mistake.
>Use Maccio’s glasses. This is a trick of perspective, right?

No, you don’t want to attract his attention. You want him to leave you be so that you can try and get out. If you try and do anything, he’ll just stop you easily using the power of not being four inches tall. So with that in mind, you just slump down with your back to the glass and go limp. He’ll have to leave you be eventually. If nothing else, he’s got an appointment with his ‘opponent’, though of course you now have your suspicions about how opposed they really are.

But what if you’re stuck like this? Are you ready to be four inches tall for the rest of your life? You imagine it and fight back a shudder. That won’t happen. If nothing else, you’ll get it fixed by someone. So as long as you escape, you’ll be fine. But if you don’t escape...well, you might have to get used to being someone else’s trophy.
Oh sure, he said he was going to let you out eventually. Pah! You trust Ennio as far as you can throw him, which is literally nowhere right now.

The distant ringing of a bell eventually calls him away, the giant stomping off with every footstep shaking the glass around you. Yes, he’s leaving you up here on the desk! You perk up a little but wait just a few seconds more to make sure he doesn’t turn around, even though you can quite clearly feel his footsteps heading downstairs.
Once you’re sure he’s not coming back, you stand up and start assessing your surroundings. You won’t lie, it’s pretty bad. But it could easily have been worse. At least Ennio didn’t try and take advantage of you or any such thing. So there! There’s a bright side! You weren’t tortured or molested!

This bright side thoroughly fails to make you feel better. If anything, it only makes you feel worse.

First things first, you need to get out of this bottle. You have no idea if getting out of the bottle will revert you back to your natural size or not. If it does, that’d be great. It’d be so great that you’re already assuming it probably won’t happen. So assuming the worst, getting out of the bottle will just be the first step in a greater plan of escape.

But first, you have an idea. Reaching into your tiny little handbag, you grope around for Maccio’s spectacles and hold them up. A trick of perspective, huh? Well wouldn’t you know it, you happen to have a different perspective right here!
You put them on and immediately realize how well the thick glass filters the desk around you into an aesthetically pleasing mosaic of light. Neat but not exactly your purpose here.

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>>3104685

It’s perspective so...so he sees the ship in the bottle. He makes it look like the ship is in the bottle or at least, the right size for the bottle. Like that thing everyone tries when they’re a kid, pinching the heads of people far away. Except Ennio can actually enforce that perspective on others. Is the glass essential? He implied that he could only do it with bottles before…

Unfortunately, Maccio’s perspective doesn’t really help here. The problem isn’t with your perspective anymore, it’s with Ennio’s. He’s fooled the world into thinking that you’re actually this size when in reality, you’re not. It’s a pretty neat skill and unfortunately you won’t be able to get out of it just by shutting your eyes or similar tricks.

Fuck! You’d really been hoping that would work! But you won’t let that deter you. You’re still going to escape. You just need a plan.


>You’ll get out of the bottle and find a way out of the house. From there, maybe you can struggle through the streets until you find someone to help you?

>You’ll get out of the bottle and make your way downstairs. You’ll find a way to get close to Ennio and then threaten to cut his fucking throat. Your sword’s still long enough for that.

>You’ll get out of the bottle and then find a way to set his house on fire somehow. You’re not sure, okay, you’re just starting to get pissed off.

>The other duellist will arrive soon. He has to. If you can enlist his help, you can enter the Wake.

>Other (Specify)

Additionally:

>Attempt to get your way out by pushing the bottle over and rolling it off the desk.

>Try to use your sword to cut your way out.

>Try and squeeze your way out through the neck.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3104689
>>You’ll get out of the bottle and find a way out of the house. From there, maybe you can struggle through the streets until you find someone to help you?
The opposing duelist is probably in on it.

>>Try to use your sword to cut your way out.
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>>3104689
>You’ll get out of the bottle and find a way out of the house. From there, maybe you can struggle through the streets until you find someone to help you?

>Try to use your sword to cut your way out.
If that doesn't work
>Attempt to get your way out by pushing the bottle over and rolling it off the desk.
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>>3104689
>>3104722
this
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>>3104685
>You weren’t tortured or molested!
She's four inches tall and in a glass bottle. How could she possibly be molested?

>>3104689
>Try to use your sword to cut your way out.
>You’ll get out of the bottle and make your way downstairs.
>Use Maccio's artistic vision to help create a visual sleight-of-eye that would fool Ennio into thinking you're bigger.
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>>3104738

Given the city we are in, do you really want an answer to that?
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Vote will remain open until I return later tonight.
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Maybe it has to do with light? Is there some way we can stop light from shining on the bottle?
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>>3104742
...Point.

>>3104771
Another possibility could be using a shadow to seem bigger to Ennio. Spook him into perceiving us as normal size.
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>>3104771

I think the problem is that it's Ennio pinning us to a structure. He aligns the bottle and ourselves so we're "in the bottle" and suddenly we are.

Which means the easiest way to return to normal is likely to align another trick of perspective: For example, getting out on the windowsill and having him observe us obliquely so we're "on the street" at a reasonably normal size.

It mostly depends on if his ability is conscious or triggered: In either of those cases, we'll just be small and a few stories up.

The good news is that we're not likely as fragile as we look: Our low weight probably makes falling a minor inconvenience, and excluding a stray cat or similar threat, we're not an easy target.

I'd recommend that if we confront Ennio, we do it armed. We won't have a second chance if he's able to grab hold of us.
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>>3104689


>The other duellist will arrive soon. He has to. If you can enlist his help, you can enter the Wake.

>Attempt to get your way out by pushing the bottle over and rolling it off the desk.


I have to admit, all those bottles, maybe we could make it that even if we win all those ship bottles have to be destroyed or something
there's something unnatural about him having so many and not selling them
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>>3104875

You know not everyone needs to be a facina or conspirator.

Let's get his story before we start stomping on his toys.
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>>3103783
>>3104889
>“You just stay put, alright? It’s vital that I lose this duel and someone like you would never lose, no? I promise I’ll let you out.”


this is some sort of conspiracy.
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>>3104899

It's not much of a conspiracy if you've already admitted your plan.

Yes, he's doing something strange, but as far as we've gotten so far, he's just conveniently found a trick to keep us occupied. He could have done the same with humors, misdirection... or even good old fashioned rope.

I don't think his modeling hobby (Which is, by the way, the premier way to cure ennui for money changers.) has anything to do with this unless he's doing some sort of asset trick.
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>>3104917
He puts the money in the ships that are then put in the bottles for easy transport?

But then again why not drugs or something else too?
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>>3104889
Honestly if someone locks me in a bottle against my will I start cutting heels like I'm some kind of mini slasher villain.

That said I don't think we should play it like that.
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I reckon I've got time to do another update. Vote called, writing.
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>>3104689
>You’ll get out of the bottle and then find a way to set his house on fire somehow. You’re not sure, okay, you’re just starting to get pissed off.

haha, we're mature. maybe if he gets flustered he can't maintain his perspectives?

>Try to use your sword to cut your way out.

we can't squeeze through

rolling it off the desk might not break it, and he'll hear it either way

that one enon did have a point about it being sharpened with sunlight, and there was another descriptor of us dropping a tissue or something on it and it floated down in two halves. This sword is crazy sharp.
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>You’ll get out of the bottle and find a way out of the house. From there, maybe you can struggle through the streets until you find someone to help you?
>Try to use your sword to cut your way out.

You spend a few seconds weighing your options, debating internally whether it’d be best to try and run away or if you should confront Ennio in some way, possibly using the other duellist. But in the end, the only thing you know is that you can’t trust anyone involved in this situation. If Ennio wants to lose, this Donatella is probably in on it. And if Donatellia is a participant, you probably can’t trust whatever duellist she hired either.
But you don’t get it. If he wants to lose, if he wants to give her the lump, why not just give it in the first place. All he’d have to do is not contest her initial claim!

You don’t get it just yet, you need to know more. But what you need far more than that is to find a way to not be four inches tall. Everything else is worth a big fat nothing until you can accomplish that very simple task. So you just need to get out of the bottle and then find a way out of the house without being caught again. You definitely can’t be caught, if you were it’d be trivial for him to deprive you of all your tools, your clothes even, and cram you somewhere inescapable.
The only reason you have what you have right now is just a quirk of how he trapped you. The very act of bottling you made it impossible for him to lay a finger on you. You suppose you should be thankful for small mercies but...it’s all small now so who gives a shit?

You unsheathe your sword and give the glass around you a careful eye. The glass is, comparatively, extremely thick. Could you cut this? The debole of your sabre is exceptional sharp after all, you sharpen it on silk and sunlight and the morning breeze. But even so, this’ll be a tall order.

You press the blade up against the glass and, moving slowly, you start dragging it up at a slant in a standard draw cut. It takes a bit of effort but you are soon rewarded with the sound of scratching glass! You pull back to see the cut left behind in the wall of the bottle. It’s clean but it doesn’t even cut all the way through. Tiny little fracture cracks are branching off of it.

Okay, okay, you can work with this. Holding your sword with both hands, keeping one hand on the hilt and the other on the forte itself to steady the blade, you get to work. Another deep scratch soon joins the other, this time on the other side of the bottle. And then a third and a fourth and a fifth…

A few minutes later, sweat is pouring down your brow as you survey your handiwork. The bottle you are trapped within is now criss-crossed with nearly a dozen scratches, most of which go quite deep into the glass. Fractures spread out from one to another like fine spiderwebs. You rap the side with a fist and the whole thing shakes and not all of it is in time with one another.

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>>3105211
Well, it was tiring but you’re nearly there. You’ve nearly smashed a small bottle.

With all that in mind, you line up the tip of your sword with a spot where two of your deepest cuts meet up, steady it and then thrust. The sword goes straight through the glass and only then, during that single split second, do you ponder the wisdom of breaking a glass bottle while you’re inside of it.

The bottle breaks open and shards of glass bigger than your head rain down.

It is, rather ironically, your diminutive size that saves you here. Even as the wall of the bottles breaks outward, the top of it cracks and rains down...and the shards are too big. One of them does hit you but only with the flat.
When the chaos ceases, you open your eyes to find yourself crouching in the bottom half of the bottle. The top has been demolished, leaving you standing in a broken cylinder of glass that comes up to a little over your knees. Glass is everywhere and while some did hit you, you were too small to be cut.
The neck of the bottle, still in one piece, rolls past you, following the slight slant of the desktop.

Snap it out, Sofia! He might have heard that so you’ve got to move fast!

Stepping gingerly over the side of the broken bottle, you avoid the broken glass and make your way across the desk. With the blur of the glass gone from your vision, you’re finally able to fully comprehend your situation.
What’s probably a small and rather cramped study has transformed into something cyclopean ruin. The desk is vast, a plateau with a horizon all of its own and the grain of the wood is ridged and knobbly, turning a surface that would have been smooth to a normal person into something you could easily trip over if you aren’t careful. You’re surrounded by broken glass but the chunks are so big that it’s actually quite easy to step through without being touched.

Beyond the little field of glass are the contents of the desk, vast stacks of paper forming chalk-like cliffs to other side of you, each one stacking up to almost half again your height. Beyond that, once you’re through the paperwork ravine, you find a pen longer than your entire body and an inkwell that you could bathe in.
And beyond that…

You shiver. The walls of the room are far too vast, hundreds of feet away and stretching up at least two hundred feet. Book-filled shelves line them, each book no doubt many times your size. Fuck. And this is just one little room. What are you going to do when you go outside?

You make your way to the edge of the desk and look down. The green-blue carpet below is almost like a dark and churning sea, of the kind you read about in books, that devours foreigners and scatters their ships. It’s a long way down. Could you try and climb down the desk-leg? Could you get onto the chair?
No. The chair is at least a twenty foot jump from the edge here.

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>>3105215

But then, on the other side of the desk, where it meets the massive wall, there is a window. You gaze out the window at a city which, through the magic of distance, looks almost normal sized. The window is shut but you can see the latch from here. If you could just climb up onto the sill you could get the latch open, have the window open just a crack and squeeze through.
After that, all you’ll have to worry about is being immensely high up.

What are falls like? You’ve seen insects and spiders fall from heights that must have been like this to them and they never seemed particularly bothered. Will the same apply to you? And more importantly, are you even willing to test that fact?


>Climb down the desk leg. You’ll have to work your way through the stairs and the downstairs room however.

>Make for the window! It’s the most direct route of escape.

>Try and make a running jump for the chair. Maybe it’ll work since you’re so small? You have no idea how this works.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3105218
>First take a breath to gather your strength.
>then test what you can do now
>climb the desk leg down.
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>>3105218
>Make for the window! It’s the most direct route of escape.
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>>3105218
>Make for the window! It’s the most direct route of escape.
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>>3105246
>>3105252
No way in hell would we survive the climb down, and frankly we could learn more about what the fuck is going on going through the rooms.
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>>3105218
>>Climb down the desk leg. You’ll have to work your way through the stairs and the downstairs room however.
I want to try tricking or shocking Ennio into a new perspective. If it doesn't work, we'll be recaptured, though.
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>>3105218
>>Climb down the desk leg. You’ll have to work your way through the stairs and the downstairs room however.
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Vote called, writing.
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>Climb down the desk leg. You’ll have to work your way through the stairs and the downstairs room however.

You sit at the edge for a moment, taking a breather to recover your strength. You’re not going to take the window. Knowing your luck, you’d just be stranded on the sill with a gull trying to eat you or something equally horrific. You don’t want to risk that kind of drop. So you’ll pick the safer option, even if it is considerably more effort and time. You’ll have to navigate the stairs, yes. And then you’ll need to find a way out in the first floor without him or his guests noticing you. But you can do it. You can do it because you have to do it.

You lie down on your stomach, hanging over the edge as much as you can and grab hold of the desk leg. It’s much too thick for you to wrap your arms around but you can get a pretty good grip! Its pitted surface provides plenty of handholds. Holding tight, you continue to lever yourself up and over the edge as slowly as possible, getting one leg free without toppling over and guiding it slowly down into a foothold below. You reorient your whole body, the world flipping around you as you finally grab hold of the desk leg.

Great! Now all you have to do is climb down fifty feet of desk leg. Now you’re starting to really wish that breaking the bottle undid the effect. Here goes nothing?

You climb slowly, desperately testing each and every handhold. Left hand, find a spot. Left leg, find a spot. Right hand, find a spot. Right leg, find a spot. You don’t dare let go or look down. Even just looking up would be dangerous, lest you be paralysed again by the enormity of your situation. You keep your gaze pinned to the wood in front of you.
Your hands start aching less than a minute in since you’re gripping so hard, far harder than is necessary. In the end the hardest part of the entire climb is learning how to relax your grip.

And then finally, you drop the last five feet to land on a field of springy carpet that swallows you almost up to your knees. Fuck, that’d been stressful. But a duellist has to always keep her head. And if you start panicking now, you will literally never stop.
Now, it’s only one hundred and fifty feet to the door!

The walk is slower and more tiring than you’d like and it’s all because of this stupid carpet. As you’d noted before, the aquamarine strands reach almost as high as your knees and so walking through it is like wading through a field of seaweed. The strands are surprisingly bulky and they don’t like to be moved. But at least the doorway will be easy when you finally get there. You should be able to squeeze out through the crack beneath the closed door.
What you’re learning from all this is that being tiny is less terrifying than it just plain frustrating.

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>>3105370

Unfortunately you rediscover the fear the moment you hear something huge slithering down the shelves. Looking up, you gaze up at the massive shelves that line the wall off to your side. They’re only about ten inches distant, so just fourteen feet or so but they loom so far up that it’d crick your neck to look at all of them.
And through it all, your sword in your hand, you keep hearing something brushing up against the wall behind the shelf.

And out from behind the shelf emerges...a cute little house-python, the little aquatic snakes that are farmed in the canals, kept in handbags and adorable doofuses everywhere. It is also at least fifty fucking feet long.
You stand there frozen as it slithers out towards you, a bulbous head the size of a gondola gazing down at you, tasting the air curiously.


>Run for the door!

>Just stay still. Pythons don’t eat unless they’re hungry.

>Give it a warning jab with your sword!

>Back off for now. You’ll have to wait until it moves away before heading for the door again.

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>>3105374
>Run for the door!
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>>3105374
>Slay it and take a trophy!
suffer not a snek to live
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>>3105397
Wrong thread mate.
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>>3105385
It's just a cute pet snek, you monster.
Also what trophy could we possibly take from it? Slithering? Sunbathing? Swallowing newborn mice whole?
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Pft, haha. Sorry, misposted.
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Did we win a contest by breaking out of the bottle? Would claiming a glass shard as a trophy do anything?

Hiya OP of another thread!
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>>3105413
'Fraid not.
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Welp, that's embarrassing. Thought I'd copied the proper text.

Should be deleted now.

>>3105413
Hey.

>>3105374
>Back off for now. You’ll have to wait until it moves away before heading for the door again.
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>>3105374
>Run for the door!
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>>3105405
Rend, slaughter, flake.

Slithering and lunging might actually be useful. Snakes are up there in bursts of explosive speed.

And who DOESN'T want to swallow things 4 times your total body mass? Eh? Eh?
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Vote called, writing.
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>Run for the door!

You’re not going to wait around and risk finding out how promptly Ennio feeds his pet. You start to run the moment the python begins its curious advance, running away from it and off to the side towards the door! You’re sprinting full pelt and every step is a risk as the carpet clings to your feet. The door gets nearer and nearer and you don’t spare a look back until you’ve more or less hit the door, slapping your arm against the massive wooden edifice to slow yourself.
Behind you, the snake curls in on itself to form a ball, clearly startled by your sudden burst of speed. Good. Maybe that was cowardly of you but fuck it, you’re Sofia Pseudonym, public defender extraordinaire! You have a future! And it’s not going to end in the stomach of some dopey little housepet!

If you’d stayed behind and fought, you might have startled it into striking. And whether you’d survive that...well, it’s not the Wake. Everything here can kill you. And with that in mind, you duck down beneath the door and squeeze yourself through the crack before the python can decide how hungry it is. You’re not going to outrun that thing but it can’t open doors.

It’s a tight fit, even for you but in the end you drag yourself out and lie down on the uneven wood of the landing, your body covered in sweat and every muscle burning. And you’re not even down the stairs yet. Getting up once more, you walk across the landing, stepping past the nail-heads the size of your fist. You only stop when you reach the edge.

You’d scoff at the stairs normally. It’s a piddly little thing, only six stairs high. This isn’t so much an upper floor as it is just a slightly elevated part of the first. But that was then. Now? Each stair stretching out below you is a ten foot drop and beyond that, you can see a small portion of the acres of workshop below. Best get to work! You sure as shit don’t want to be stranded on the stairs when someone walks up them.

Compared to climbing down the desk, each stair drop is easy. You’ve jumped down ten-foot drops plenty of times when you were normal-sized after all. But you’re already tired and it’s not exactly easy work. And all the while as you work your way down, you hear something thumping in the rooms beyond, hidden from your view by the wall.

And right as you finish dropping down the third step, you hear Ennio’s voice.
“I don’t know, the City assigned me one...I guess they’re just not showing up.”

“Oh dear.”
This voice is a woman and she doesn’t sound at all surprised.
“Shameful what’s become of public service these days.”

“No need to act so happy about it,” Ennio snaps. He’s a significantly better actor than the woman, who you’re assuming is Donatella. “Can I get any tea for you ladies while we wait? Perhaps you can empty the contents of my kitchen as well as my coinpurse?”

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>>3105579

“You don’t need to overact. I get it, you know? You two are in cahoots.”
Another woman, her voice much louder than Ennio and Donatella. She also sounds hideously familiar.
“But do you really need to try and trick me? Not to sound offensive but you both look stone cold retarded to me so that’s unlikely. But listen, I know my value. It’s none. I’m the cheapest duellist anyone can find and I know it’s so because I checked. The only people who hire me are either desperate or up to something. Oi, don’t look so alarmed! You don’t have to tell me whatever you’ve done to your defender. You don’t even have to say why we’re doing this farce. I’ll go along with it! That’s the professional guarantee you get from me, the gutter rookie who never wins!”

A chill runs down your spine.


>Stay still and keep eavesdropping.

>Keep going down the stairs. You need to find a way out as quickly as possible.

>Retreat back up the stairs. You’re not ready for this!

>Other (Specify)
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>>3105582
>Stay still and keep eavesdropping.
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>>3105582
>Sigh... "Hi Gloriana!"
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>>3105582
>Stay still and keep eavesdropping.

They hired Gloriana
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>>3105582
>Go negotiate terms.

Both Sofia and Gloriana now realize what their clients are up to, both have reason to screw with them, and are able to control how these negotiations actually go. They can play into each other.

Would Sofia normally be too honorable to do such a thing? Maybe, maybe not. But we've just been shrunk, stuffed in a bottle, and menaced by a great serpent.

Also, getting this Duel underway and entering the Wake should get us normal-sized again, which sounds nice.

So... yeah. Fuck it. Let's just plunge in on this one.
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>>3105582
>Leap onto the scene and start negotiations
We can report later. Well, the question is whether still having the duel is important to our reputation, considering the circumstances.
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>>3105610
>But we've just been shrunk, stuffed in a bottle, and menaced by a great serpent.

I think all client loyalty goes out the window after they do that to you. I want these two, but mostly Ennio fucked out of these negotiations. Let's give Gloriana her first win.
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>>3105614
No, a duelist's record is their everything. Also, trophies.
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>>3105610
She just said she was perfectly fine with going along with it

>>3105614
But that's quite literally what he wants

Does anyone actually read what Ouro posts?
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>>3105616
Let the record show that stuffing us in a bottle makes it so we no longer have a clients best interest at heart
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>>3105621
We'll obviously we have to figure out what the scam is and find a way to change negotiations so it fucks them
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>>3105621

No, no. You misunderstand. I'm suggesting we go down there, and then negotiate an even BIGGER sum to put on the line, fantastic wealth should we succeed! ... And then let Gloriana take her dive.

We fuck him by winning bigger for him than he ever could have imagined! We bargain UP and then WIN. Good for our record, bad for our client. And we get another Trophy off Gloriana. It's perfect!
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>>3105590
Hey, I'd like a bit of a clarification on this vote. Is it another vote to go in and just talk to Gloriana openly? If it is, then that option wins. if not, then it's a tie.
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>>3105629
I'll change my vote to go negotiate
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>>3105629
That was indeed my intention.
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Vote called, writing.
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So uh, you guys remember how to beat her right?

If she hasn't changed anything it's literally CCx3 over and over again until Flashing Steel is out paced and we have enough to kill her in one strike.
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>>3105637
Clearly we have to spam Elegance again until we've masterfully defeated her with style.
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>>3105644
Hey man go for it. I'll see you in a week.
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>>3105644
>Clearly we have to spam Elegance again until we've masterfully defeated her with style.
You say that, but I won't consider it a real victory until we successfully pull off a prediction against her.

We missed like, nine times!


Anyway, we're in luck. Gloriana is always open to screwing everyone around her.
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>>3105653
I actually pulled a successful prediction against her IIRC. Not 100%, but pretty close.
It didn't help much though, because predicting her stalling tactics is not enough to defeat them. Any amount of tiny Elegance dice we get out of correct predictions will just die to Flashing Steel.
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>Leap onto the scene and start negotiations

You recognise that voice all too well. Instinctively, your hand drifts down into your handbag and returns clutching a lock of green hair . It’s her. You’re simultaneously horrified and excited. Of all the people to find you in this state, why would it have to be Gloriana?
But maybe Gloriana’s just who you need. She’s here to negotiate terms. So that’s just what you’ll do! Once the negotiation has begun, the clients have no say. And you’re sure Gloriana wouldn't be averse to raising the stakes.

With that in mind, you resume your struggle down the stairs as the voices continue.

“All you have to do is take your win by default,” Ennio is saying. “There’s a bonus in it for you if don’t say anything about it to anyone, alright?”


“Right, right right right right. So for this farce you really just hired the cheapest you could to save on money, huh?And there I was, queen of the gutter. I won’t ask what you did to your defender.”

“Yes,” Donatella says, her voice sounding somewhat accusatory. “That wasn’t part of the plan.”

“It wouldn’t have worked,” Ennio protests. “Public defenders are supposed to be trash but she was a goddess! She would have taken this gutter whore out in a single blow!”

“Whore? Oh no, you wouldn’t want to call me that. What if Father-”

You jump down the last stair and with aching legs, run around the wall dividing the stairs off from the rest of the workshop.
“OI!,” you shout, as loudly as you can. “I’m here to discuss terms!”

Three people are seated at the massive workshop table and from your angle, you can’t see any of them. You can only see their feet and of those, only one pair draw your attention. The pair right at the far end, the huge boots with the steel-sheets nailed into the soles. And said boots are rapidly rising into the air as, unseen but certainly not unheard, Gloriana pulls herself up into a crouch.
What is that?

Before anyone can say anything, a crash makes the whole room shake. She’s jumped onto the table. She’s jumped onto the fucking table and by the sound of it she’s running right across it to-

A shadow blocks out the light from the window for just a moment before something huge slams into the ground before you, shaking you right off your feet! You hit the ground and roll, getting up to you knees just in time to see…

Gloriana, in all her awful neon glory. The enormity of her makes her hard to process but she’s landed in a crouch between you and the table. Her bright eyes are locked unerringly on you.

She looks at least twenty feet away from you but that’s a distance she can cross in a single step. And as you finally find her face, you see it split open in a terrible grin.
“Sofia?”


>Stand your ground.

>Run!

>Other (Specify)
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>>3105673
>>Stand your ground.
"Yep! My piece of shit of a client shrunk me and stuffed me in a bottle. Please help me up to the table"
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>>3105673
>Stand your ground.
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>>3105673
>>Stand your ground.
"Yep! My piece of shit of a client shrunk me and stuffed me in a bottle. It's time to discuss terms, and boy are you going to like them!"
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>>3105673
LOL at these guys, hiring Gloriana thinking she would defeat anyone. Her whole schtick is losing.
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>>3105673
>Run!
Because it's funnier.
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Vote called, writing.
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>Stand your ground.

You’ll admit, it’s inherently terrifying to have someone so big so close. She could kill you with a single accidental stumble. And it’s even scarier when that someone is Gloriana. But you’re not going to let everything go Ennio’s way. So you stand your ground despite it all.

“Yes! My piece of sh-”

Your voice is drowned out by the sound of metal smashing into wood as Gloriana steps closer. A boot slams into the ground perilously close by, sending you toppling to the ground once more! You gaze up at her legs, a pair of scarred pillars rising at least fifty feet into the sky and...well, she’s the only duellist you’ve ever met to wear a skirt. When you’d first met her, you’d thought her skirt had been scandalously short. But from this viewpoint, it might as well not even exist.
Looking up, up and further up, you can just barely make out the look on her face, since it’s tilted down towards you. It’s a...smug smirk. Oh dear.

“Yes!,” you repeat, shouting at the top of your lungs. “My piece of shit client shrunk me and stuffed me into a bottle! It’s time to discuss terms and boy are you going to like them!”

Gloriana’s only response is something crossed between a giggle and a cackle.
“Wow, listen to you squeak. Can you speak a little louder?”
She then drops to all fours with enough speed to make you involuntarily cringe back a few steps. Her ribbon-bound vest towers over you, just a few relative feet above your head. She’s literally just about on top of you, casting you into shadow.

“I said, my piece of shit cl-”

“No it’s fine Sofia. I heard you the first time!”

Your reply goes unsaid as a hand bigger than you idly bats you to the ground hard enough to have you seeing stars, knocking your sabre clean out of your hand. Gloriana picks it up between thumb and forefinger while her other hand grabs hold of...you.
And there’s fuck all you can do about it except scream. Just because you’re small doesn’t mean you’ve gotten any faster. It’s quite on the contrary in fact. Right now, Gloriana can cross huge distances within the blink of an eye. Just a single step, a swipe of an arm…

Gloriana stands and you rise with her, clutched helplessly in a fist held up about chest-height.
“Oh, look at you, you magic girl,” she coos ‘softly’, releasing you into the palm of her other hand just in time to immobilize you by pressing the tip of a single finger into your midsection. “I remember you. Hey, doesn’t this remind you of that cool Wake trick I tried to pull on you during the duel? But that didn’t work on you, you’re much too smart for someone like me!”

“Hello Gloriana,” you pant, trying to ignore the prodding finger as it slowly moves up. “Listen to me! This is a farce, right! So let’s screw them over! Raise the terms! And then-”

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>>3105745

Gloriana shakes her head, waves of green and brown hair shifting like stage curtains.
“Don’t you remember me, Sophie? I guess you’re too skilled and beautiful to remember a half-blood shitstain like me. I really don’t care about the duels. So who cares about terms? Let’s have some fun!”

Her finger pulls back and you jump to your feet, only to sink back down and cling to the skin of Gloriana’s palm the moment you see how high up you are. Fuck! You hear something huge sliding coarsly across something else and turn to see Gloriana pulling free the uppermost ribbon from her vest. That’s the opposite order from when she’d done it last time and the result drops her neckline quite dramatically.

Of course, your life is in hideous danger so you only stare for a moment before she plucks you out of your palm and dangles you in the air, her other hand going to her now-loose ribbon.
“Hey!,” you scream, your voice going hoarse. “Stop it! Let me go! Please?”

“After how wonderfully you treated me last time. Oh no Sophie, this little piece of scum is going to show you some real hospitality.”
She wraps the wide ribbon around you, again and again, the metal wiring running through it digging painfully into your skin. In her hands you twist and turn until you’re quite thoroughly dizzy and also quite thoroughly tied up, the ribbon knotted around you in what must look like a cute little bow.
And just to add insult to injury, there’s still quite a lot of length left in the ribbon afterwards.

The ground drops out from beneath you yet again as Gloriana drops you. You shriek helplessly, dangling in mid-air from the weighted ribbon she’s idly twirling about. Every twitch of her fingers sends you spinning about in awful new directions.
And with you dangling as such, Gloriana takes a seat back at the table, where Enno and Donatella are sitting speechlessly.
“Okay. All this shit was pretty boring before but now? Now you two have my attention.”

You blearily watch the world spin around you as you twirl helplessly a few inches (the big inches) above the table. For a moment, you catch sight of your sword. Gloriana’s embedded into the surface of the table below you. Why, you could almost grab it. Almost. If your arms weren’t bound.
Looking back on things, you wish you had run or hid or done anything besides entrusting your life to Gloriana. Why did you think she would care? Did you think you were going to get treated with respect? And worst of it all, it doesn’t seem like she cares about what you have to say and you don’t know if you can change that.
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>>3105750

>Try and work an arm free so you can grab your sword! From there, you can slice yourself free of the ribbon!

>Beg Gloriana for mercy.

>”So are we doing negotiations or not? You’re obliged to do them, you freak!”

>”I...I understand this might be fun. But wouldn’t it be funnier to screw these two over? Come on!”

>Just sit there and listen in for a bit longer before saying anything else.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3105752
Okay, this was a bad idea.

>”I...I understand this might be fun. But wouldn’t it be funnier to screw these two over? Come on!”
>While trying to work an arm free so we can grab our sword
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>>3105752
"Look, can we have the negotiations to screw these two over? There's a bunch of, uh, magical shit you can take from them, yeah!"
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>>3105760
I suppose there are provisions in the Sword Law that disallow Gloriana to win by simply refusing to go forward with the duel, or assassinating us before theduel?
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>>3105752
>>Just sit there and listen in for a bit longer before saying anything else.
I'm not gonna apologize, this is hilarious. Also kinda hot.

Gloriana is gonna be obnoxious for a while, but we can point out how she can be more obnoxious during her negotiations. We'll be more convincing as the shoulder devil than as someone begging for help.
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>>3105752
>”So are we doing negotiations or not? You’re obliged to do them, you freak!”

If she says no, we can challenge her to a Duel to force her to uphold her responsibility to Duel. Even if she tries to back out of the contract, she can't refuse a direct challenge to herself.
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>>3105762
Correct.
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>>3105752
>Just sit there and listen in for a bit longer before saying anything else.
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>>3105752
>>Just sit there and listen in for a bit longer before saying anything else.
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Alright, the tie's finally broken so I'm calling the vote! Writing.
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>>3105752
>Just sit there and listen in for a bit longer before saying anything else.
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Oh shit, I wake up and best girl is back. And she's even into bondage!
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Got delayed by nonsense.

>Just sit there and listen in for a bit longer before saying anything else.

It’s tempting to just keep yelling, to curse out Ennio and Donatella and fucking Gloriana but it’ll likely just be a waste of energy for now. It’s just what Gloriana wants and your throat is hoarse. Besides, and you think this with the full knowledge that you are currently being dangled in the air while tied up in a bodice accessory, you want to keep some dignity. You squeaking irately like the world’s angriest mouse isn’t going to help that.
Your potential objections aren’t going to lose potency from waiting. Better to learn a little more about this whole fucking mess first.

“This isn’t how it was meant to go,” Ennio says quietly. Quietly to them, not to you.

“I think it went pretty well,” Gloriana says, twisting the ribbon to spin you around. “I mean, would any of us say that Sofia as she is right now isn’t wonderful? I certainly can’t think of anything wrong with her like this. She’s as perfect as ever.”

You can hear Donatella sigh. You still haven’t had a good look at her yet. You’re keeping your eyes locked on the pitted surface of the table to avoid getting too dizzy.
“This was supposed to be simple, Ennio. Default to a public defender. Convince the defender not to bother trying, to throw even. Or at the very least, have them lose. But now this? This is a crime! And what’s worse is that she’s listening right now! She’s smarter than all of us!”

She doesn’t raise the issue of simply killing you and it’s obvious why. You attending this meeting is on City record. And that can’t be changed! The same applies to just keeping you stuck in a bottle forever. Either way you disappear and all clues point to them.

“I was hoping,” Ennio replies, “That I’d just let her go after the duel and she’d just...not tell.”

Gloriana nearly drops you on the table, the ribbon jerking with a spastic motion as she sits upright. Your world is briefly thrown into sickening chaos.
“Wow, that’s a fucking stupid plan.”

Ennio coughs.
“You know what I mean, Donatella. She’d be an excellent addition.”

“I understand,” his counterpart says smoothly.

“Well I don’t,” Gloriana says. “But it’s okay, I’m not being paid to understand. But I’m afraid you’ve got a problem now. Sofia intelligently tried to start negotiations. And I can’t ignore that because the City won’t. So me and her, we’ve got to set negotiations. We’re obliged to do it and it has to happen. Can’t do nothing about it! So this duel is happening and I’m not going to get a default victory.”
Far above you, she teases the end of the ribbon through her fingers, twisting it up and up and up…
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>>3106020
“But if you still want me to win, well, that’s not possible. I could never beat Sofia. But what if we duel right now and like this? In her current state I might just be able to cheat my way into some sort of victory. Then you still get what you want!”

She stops twisting the ribbon and it promptly untwists, spinning you around and around until your mind is a blur and you feel as if your head is about to burst! You can’t hear what anyone is saying at all, it’s all just noise.
And at some point she lets go and you fall a relative five feet onto the table, where you bounce onto your side in an ungainly sprawl.

At least you kept your dignity huh?

You look up blearily. You’re on your knees near the edge of the table, the ribbon still tied around your chest and arms. Gloriana is no longer holding onto the other end but it’s huge and it’s heavy, the steel wires within weighing you down almost like a chain.
And sitting right before you is Gloriana or more accurately, her chest. You have to look a good way upward just to see the underside of her nose.
“Whuh?”
You feel like you’re going to be sick.

“Hey hey Sophie! Let’s negotiate the terms, shall we? Are you ready?”


>Begin the negotiations. You’re fine. Because as the defending duellist, you still get to specify the location and the time.

>”Gloriana wait, you can still fuck with their whole plan!”

>Crush her with your curse.

>Run for your sword! It’s mere inches away! Feet for you but still…

>”I’ll agree to anything if you just promise to get me back to normal before anything else.”

>Refuse. If a duel fails to occur, it’ll generate urban dissonance. Someone will be notified.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3106022
>Crush her with your curse.
>Refuse. If a duel fails to occur, it’ll generate urban dissonance. Someone will be notified.
Fuck that whole thing.
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>>3106022
>Ask Ennio to turn us back to normal. Crush him if necessary.
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>>3106022
>Begin the negotiations. You’re fine. Because as the defending duellist, you still get to specify the location and the time.
down the rabbit hooooooooooole
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>>3106023
Don't bother crushing Gloriana. It won't work on her.
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>>3106022
>Begin the negotiations. You’re fine. Because as the defending duellist, you still get to specify the location and the time.
Location: inside a bottle. Time: right now.
We can't force Ennio to return us to the normal size, but we can force him to shrink Gloriana.
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>>3106022
>The prospect of being this small for the rest of my life has convinced me to throw the duel, as long as you turn me back to nornal first.
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>>3106030
Not a bad idea
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>>3106022
>No. I am not. Remove the ribbon and give me time to collect myself. Or there will be no duel and a lawyer will come.
>And Ennio return me to normal or else.
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>>3106052
>>3106022
This. Either he turns us back or someone will investigate.

I'm not sure we have any guarantees they won't just kill both Gloriana and Sofia after the duel if we are both shrunk down.
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>>3106022
>>Refuse. If a duel fails to occur, it’ll generate urban dissonance. Someone will be notified

Idiots.

Though if we negotiate then we can get another skill from her...
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>>3106030
Nevermind, this is brilliant. Supporting!
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>>3106061
We can put unshrinking us in the duel terms
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>>3106073
No we can’t. It’s our client’s fault not hers.
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Sorry guys, I'm going to sleep. I couldn't hold out as long as I hoped.
Vote will remain open until I wake in the morning and resume the session.
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>>3106030
Supporting, but couldn't we specify the time as 'After Ennio makes us bigger and Gloriana releases us'?

Also, this is a unique opportunity to feel a boob larger than we are. Just sayin'.
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>>3106022
>>Refuse. If a duel fails to occur, it’ll generate urban dissonance. Someone will be notified
>Unless he returns us to normal
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>>3106097
It's an excellent idea! Even Sophia thinks so.
>the result drops her neckline quite dramatically. Of course, your life is in hideous danger so you only stare for a moment
>Catalina starts buttoning up her jacket, drawing it up to cover the shining tattoos that cover her entire torso. You get in your last eyeful for while she might still be your enemy, you can’t deny that you had a sense of perverse enjoyment in being locked so thoroughly and comprehensively out of the duel by someone in a thin camisole and not much else.
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If only we had kissed Gloriana after our first duel this scene would be so much crazier. Same people who didn't want a companion called Nards I'll bet.
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Posting Gloriana's stats from the previous fight, because they'll be relevant sooner or later.

Composure Pool: 5d4, 1d10

Abilities: Professional Provocateur: [ABILITY]At the end of each round, if you have successfully performed a Trick and have not lost any Composure dice, the single lowest dice in your opponent’s Technique Pool is moved to their Strike Pool. If there are no dice in your opponent’s Technique Pool, the lowest dice in their Composure Pool is moved to their Technique Pool instead.)

Techniques:

Gain Some Distance: [TRICK]Destroy all dice in your opponent’s Strike Pool. If it was already empty, generate a d4 in your Composure Pool and your opponent is prevented from siphoning dice to their Strike Pool this round. You must then activate a valid Stance in this same action. You cannot use this Technique if you already have a Stance active.

Flashing Steel: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. Damage from this Technique is dealt first to your opponent’s Strike Pool, treating the dice within as if they were Composure dice for the purposes of destruction. The difference between the highest dice value in the Strike Pool and the damage rolled is then dealt to the Technique Pool in the same fashion. And if the damage continues to overflow, the remainder is inflicted upon the Composure Pool in the same way.

Unassailable Rookie: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, all dice that your opponent rolls out of their Strike Pool take a -1 penalty to their final result. Can only be active while you have a d4 in your Composure Pool.

Counting Coup: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. Next time you use this in the same duel, upgrade it by 2 sides. This caps at d10 and if done again afterwards, resets back to d4.

Crushing Grip: [STRIKE]Siphon no dice. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. If no Composure dice are destroyed as a result of this, whether through damage or through an ability, destroy the single highest value dice in your opponent’s Technique Pool.

Underhanded Deflection: [TRICK]Lower the sides of all the dice currently in your opponent’s Technique pool by 1.
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>>3106227
It was also clarified that GSD will fail if there's no valid stance to activate.
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>>3105637
This anon's plan of CCx3 until we can kill her fails to account for her destroying our Tech with CG and our Strike with GSD, as well as the fact that she can instantly unbreak herself with GSD. It's true that she can't effectively kill us, but the experience shows that she doesn't try to, instead focusing on being as hard to kill as possible. I wouldn't put it past her to just spam CG.
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>>3106264
GSD only happens once. Just don't break her stance and you never have to deal with it again.

Gloriana is not being subverted by the curse when she said she literally can't beat us. Yes she can delay the inevitable forever if she wanted.

> I wouldn't put it past her to just spam CG.
Ah but there in lies her fatal flaw in PP. She's putting stuff in our Strike pool every queue, meaning some dice will be safe from CG. And if she is spamming CG she isn't making any other forward progress with Tech dice.
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>>3106271
She won't be putting any dice in our Strike if she spams CG, because PP is triggered by tricks, and CG is a strike. She can spam it indefinitely.
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>>3106264
>I wouldn't put it past her to just spam CG.
If she does, she'll be predictable, we can switch to spamming Elegances.
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>>3106271
>GSD only happens once
It will happen again as soon as she finds herself broken. We need to break and defeat her within a single queue to not give her an opportunity to unbreak.

>>3106274
Which will give us d4s, which she will destroy with Flashing Steel as soon as she wises up to it, which will happen earlier than we can get enough d4s to kill her.
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>>3106273
Well then Ouro is going to have a fun time dealing with that.

You're a fool if you think Ouro would want a repeat of the last fight.
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>>3106282
On the other hand, Gloriana /does/. Such a great character.
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>>3106284
Hey man if Ouro wants to extend a fight for weeks cause it's in character, by all means let him. I can do something else during that time.
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>>3106284
Gloriana is 10/10 and the best ever, which is why I'm betting her moveset is higher than six and she'll have a different loadout this time, in the interest of making sure we have fun and don't get bored. Truly her empathy and compassion know no bounds. She's too good for us. I've spent the last few hours thinking on how to ask her out without the birthright muddling things.
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>>3106030
Supporting this for sure. Duel in a bottle! It even floats on water! Duel Of The Tinies!
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Since I'm going to sleep, here's my idea of an anti-Gloriana strategy:

1. Destroy her d4s quickly (CC-CC-FB should do the job)
2. Leech her d10 with PP (don't employ it before then, it should be a surprise move)
3. Finish her off within the same queue so as not to give her an opportunity for a GSD

This is more involved than just pumping CC, but should be hardfer to counter because we don't need a lot of tech dice.
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>>3106443
So, first queue CCx3, second queue FB, UD, FB? I like the idea.
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>>3106511
However, PP will only take her d10 if she doesn't have Tech dice.
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>>3106443
Step 2 doesn't work because you didn't do a trick
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>>3106511
CCx3 can just kill her outright, so she'll take measures against that. We need to strike before that.

>>3106520
Obviously there would be a trick at step 2.
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I'm awake but the vote is tied.
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>>3106030
>>3106591
I shall vote for this.
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Vote called, writing.
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I wonder if you guys just pissed away our one bit of leverage in this situation.
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>>3106628
They did. The clients have no obligation to fix us once the duel is over.
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>>3106645
The duelists are the ones that establishes the terms. Sofia AND Gloriana can force them to return them to their normal size.
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>>3106651
Can you dictate terms that aren't part of the main reason for the duel?
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>>3106645
Sure they do, if we make them part of the conditions.

>>3106654
Yep, it's a pretty big loophole.
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If you’re wondering why this took so long, I had to take a very long and tiring phone call.

>Begin the negotiations. You’re fine. Because as the defending duellist, you still get to specify the location and the time.

You hold your head still, trying to will away the shaking and the dizziness. But despite it all, Gloriana’s not wrong. It’s time for negotiations and, believe it or not, you think you have a way out of this that none of them are going to see coming. You have an idea and it just might work.
“Yes,” you say weakly, forgetting yourself.

The table shakes as Gloriana leans in, a wall of flesh and fabric. You can’t help but crawl a little further back, reminded of how easy it would be for anyone at this table to crush you flat.
“Pardon? Sorry Sofia, you’re gonna have to keep shouting. Otherwise it just comes out like an adorable little squeak.”

“Then stick your face down closer!,” you shout. “Because you have to hear this anyway. So-”

Gloriana snatches you off the table before you can react, snagging the end of your ribbon and dragging you along the table surface and into the air. She dangles you high in the air, right in front of her face. You twist and turn, averting your eyes from the massive visage.
“You need to be closer to me? Alright.”

And then she drops you straight down her vest.

The world tumbles around you, losing all coherency as you hit warm flesh, bounce and then roll down the slope. When you get your bearings once more, you find yourself wedged up to your waist in Gloriana’s cleavage.
“Hey-”

You’re cut off by a massive finger poking you gently on the top of the head and pushing you further down, walls of soft but unyielding flesh entombing your legs and arms and chest until only your head is free.
“There? You’re pretty close to me. Now I can give your words the consideration they deserve.”
You can’t see her face anymore. To do so you’d have to crane your neck straight up and even then it’d just be the bottom of her chin.

You’d like to say that you struggled but you did not. It wasn’t even a choice. You’re pinned, trapped in a too-warm sweaty prison. Gloriana’s bust is a multi-ton affair so even if you had leverage, you wouldn’t be able to push even one even slightly aside. The weight also makes you intensely aware once more of your own fragility. You could suffocate in here. Or worse yet, you could be crushed.

“Having fun down there?” Gloriana asks. Her voice is far too loud now and you can hear it vibrate through her chest just as much as you can hear her actually speak. It’s backed up by her heartbeat, a now constant presence that threatens to drown out all thought.
“Don’t squirm too hard, you’ll distract me.”

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>>3106808

“I’m fine!,” you spit, struggling to even find space to breathe. You just have to keep your head in the air. As long as you don’t slide any further, you won’t die in the most humiliating way possible. “Start the negotiations already!”

“You’re always so ready to do your job Sophie, that’s what I like about you. That and everything else of course. So hmmm...alright. Should I somehow win, which I find unlikely but I have to say anyway, my client will receive full rights to the lump sum in question. Understood?”

“Yes,” Ennio says and then stops when Gloriana holds up a finger, the arm motion needed setting your prison into nauseating motion.

“Hold on dipshit I’m not done yet. In addition, the challenged will also have to...hrm, apologize and lick my client’s boots. And you have to be naked when you do it.”

“What?”
“Why?”
Neither of the other two giants seem at all happy with Gloriana’s addition. And wait, giants? What are you thinking? They’re normal-sized people. You need to get out of here before you go native!

“Hush,” Gloriana says. “The clients aren’t allowed to speak! This conversation is between me and my tits. And well, I just sort of assumed the two of you were in a relationship. You weren’t? No? Well, maybe you might just have to start. This is what you get when you sign me on!”

You remember her doing this before, back when you first fought. She offered up the house on behalf of her clients. Her screwover condition certainly wasn’t this erotically charged last time however. Has all of this nonsense been getting her excited? Her heart is certainly pounding a mile a minute.

“As for me,” you say and then stop to suck in more air. “When I win, I demand that…”
What should you say? You can’t actually make demands of your own client so you can’t even stipulate that you be returned to normal.


>Nothing beyond the basics. This isn’t important.

>Demand that Donatella pay Ennio recompense for all business down out of his own pocket. That might make Gloriana raise her own stakes even higher. Whoever wins, you want them to be fucked over.

>In addition, Donatella should be forbidden from getting into contact with Ennio ever again in order to prevent harassment. Now their conspiracy will be a bust!

>She’ll have to submit to the same treatment as you!

>Demand that a full investigation be called in to examine this issue very thoroughly for potential future costs. That should fuck whatever they’re doing right over.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3106811
>You can’t actually make demands of your own client so you can’t even stipulate that you be returned to normal.

And there it is.
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>>3106094
Let it never be said I don't listen to my players.
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>>3106811
>Demand that Donatella pay Ennio recompense for all business down out of his own pocket. That might make Gloriana raise her own stakes even higher. Whoever wins, you want them to be fucked over.

>Demand that a full investigation be called in to examine this issue very thoroughly for potential future costs. That should fuck whatever they’re doing right over.
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>>3106819
You can't but if we threaten Gloriana to make her small, she'll be forced to make our client return us to normal if she wins. And then Gloriana just has to win.
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>>3106821
>Let it never be said I don't listen to my players.
I luv u ouro

>>3106811
>Future Investigation
>She’ll have to submit to the same treatment as you!
Yay more people for Gloriana to lewdly bully.
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>>3106847
Adding
>Wriggle
to my vote. Can't have Sophia not take advantage of this... bountiful situation.
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>>3106811

>Demand that a full investigation be called in to examine this issue very thoroughly for potential future costs. That should fuck whatever they’re doing right over.

Remember how it was mentioned that kidnapping is a serious crime in the City?
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>>3106811
>>Demand that a full investigation be called in to examine this issue very thoroughly for potential future costs. That should fuck whatever they’re doing right over.
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>>3106811
>Demand that a full investigation be called in to examine this issue very thoroughly for potential future costs. That should fuck whatever they’re doing right over.
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>>3106811
>>Demand that a full investigation be called in to examine this issue very thoroughly for potential future costs. That should fuck whatever they’re doing right over.

Also wriggle because why not?
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>>3106852
>>3106862
>>>/Akun/
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>>3106867
Well, would you rather have a Sophia who's upset and humiliated about being trapped in boobs, or one who's humiliated but kinda happy about it?
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>>3106811
>Demand that a full investigation be called in to examine this issue very thoroughly for potential future costs. That should fuck whatever they’re doing right over.
I'll support wiggling too, I guess.
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>>3106872
The fuck
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>>3106867
Please, I mentioned my fetish is to dominated by strong women who are taller than me earlier in this thread. I refrained from voting to how my penis would like it because she was terrible to Sabino.
This situation does not trigger my sense of indignation on behalf of another.
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>>3106811
>>Demand that a full investigation be called in to examine this issue very thoroughly for potential future costs. That should fuck whatever they’re doing right over.
>>She’ll have to submit to the same treatment as you!
>>In addition, Donatella should be forbidden from getting into contact with Ennio ever again in order to prevent harassment. Now their conspiracy will be a bust!
Keep raising it.
Also, y'all need jesus.
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>>Demand that a full investigation be called in to examine this issue very thoroughly for potential future costs. That should fuck whatever they’re doing right over.
+ wiggling
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3106892
You've gotta point. On both counts, lol.
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Doesn't our majority vote seems rather disproportionate to what Gloriana is demanding. If that's the case she can add more demands.
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>>3106912
>Doesn't our majority vote seems rather disproportionate to what Gloriana is demanding. If that's the case she can add more demands.
Doesn't really matter, because A) Gloriana probably isn't winning this one, and B) our client stuck us in a jar, so screw him.
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>>3106912
Yes, and?
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>>3106933
I just joined the thread, so I didn't read earlier to figure why were tiny. I figured ti was some sort of Fae fuckery
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>>3106936
I was posting without reading the detials since I was participating in thread in dribs and drabs while at work.
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>>3106942
Same, which is why I missed the vote. Good opportunity to team up with Glory to screw them over for doing this to us. We can bond over it.
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>>3106936
>I figured ti was some sort of Fae fuckery
Good call.

>>3106949
I don't think any of us actually mind raising the stakes. As for bonding, hey. Wiggle team is working on it.
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>>3106953
>Wiggle team
That got me
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>Demand that a full investigation be called in to examine this issue very thoroughly for potential future costs. That should fuck whatever they’re doing right over.
>Wriggle rebelliously.

“I demand that..hold on! I can’t breathe! Let me up!”
You’ve been slowly sliding further down. To remedy this, you start to wriggle furiously, lashing out with your limbs as much as you’re able to, trying to worm your way back up. It’s hard work to move at all and to actually escape would require you to lift literal tonnes of weight but if you just scrabble hard enough, you can at least stay afloat in your slick and sweaty prison.

“Woah! Didn’t I just tell you to not to do that?”
She doesn’t sound particularly concerned.

“What about it?”
After a moment’s hurried thought, you keep wriggling. You don’t even need to do it anymore. This time, you do it solely to hear the thumping drums of her heartbeat get ever-faster, to make the swaying accompanying her breaths to come faster and to shut her up. The truth of the matter is, you’re a little desperate. Desperate to visit upon her at least a little of the teasing that she’s tormented you with ever since you first met.
“If you...if you know what’s good for you, you’ll shut up, sit down and let me speak!”

“I’m already sitting,” Gloriana says surprisingly meekly, her voice at a somewhat higher pitch than it was before. You don’t stop.

“Good! Now listen up! When I win, in addition to relinquishing the lump, there shall be a full investigation into your client’s finances! A very thorough one! It’s to determine future costs technically but I think you have a good idea why I’m choosing it.”

“Clever,” she whispers, her heartbeat pounding staccato. “Especially since they can’t hear you.”

“What did she say?”

“Shut up. Now Sophie, you’ve given me room to expand my demands. What do you say to that?”

You think about this for a moment. You’re planning to trick her into a bottle same as you using a trick with a location. So with her extra demand, she could compel the client to return her to normal. But is that something she really needs to be forewarned about? Wouldn’t you prefer to just take her by surprise?


>No, she deserves to know.

>Tell her but demand that she include returning you to normal to be a term as well.

>Don’t say a word. Let it be a surprise.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3106958
>Don’t say a word. Let it be a surprise.
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>>3106958
>>Tell her but demand that she include returning you to normal to be a term as well.
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>>3106958
>Don’t say a word. Let it be a surprise.
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>>3106958
We need to think of a way that letting us both out of the bottle is funnier than Gloriana getting out of the bottle and taking us home with her.
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>>3106962
>>3106970
Just saying, if we don't tell her, we might end up stuck in a bottle with her, with people we fucked over /outside/ the bottle, and no time limit on when the investigation starts.
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>>3106977
I know, but we've been recorded being here and they know that so if Sofia and Gloriana disappear they are the prime suspects.

I'm not factoring in spiteful revenge, consequences be damned from them, but if Ouro wants to kill us like that I guess that's fine. Dying being trapped in a bottle with Gloriana. It's a perfect end.
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>>3106958
>"You should demand all participants be returned to their normal perspective immediately upon concluding the duel!"

She should be able to figure it out from that.
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>>3106958
>You can, and I would appreciate if you said “After the duel your client would return us to our correct sizes and proper perspective.”
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>>3106969
What do you think is more likely, Gloriana letting us both go, or Gloriana only insisting that she be let go and happily walking off with a helpless Sophia?

>>3106982
There's ways of tormenting people you've got in a bottle without killing or even hurting them, you know.
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>>3106958
>Tell her but demand that she include returning you to normal to be a term as well.
>Be uncomfortably aware that Gloriana would think it's hilarious to leave you in a bottle.
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>>3106958
>No, she deserves to know.
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Fine fine, >>3106958


I'll change my vote >>3106962 here

and I'll second >>3106988
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>>3106958
>>Don’t say a word. Let it be a surprise.
I take what I said back, nothing good can come from this.
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>>3106958

>Don’t say a word. Let it be a surprise.

The time for respect ended when she started playing with us like a cat toy. Ennio will return us both to normal in either case: This is already a mess, and adding kidnapping will only make it more of a mess: It's not like it'll take more than 5 minutes for someone looking for us to check our record.
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>>3106958
>>Don’t say a word. Let it be a surprise.
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>>3107018
>The time for respect ended when she started playing with us like a cat toy.
Not really a question of respect, more a question of who you would rather be at the mercy of, the people who are going to hate us or Gloriana. Devil's choice.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3107032

They could decide to drop the whole bottle off the side of the city and we'd still be better off than at Gloriana's mercy.
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Tell
>>3106969
>>3106987
>>3106988
>>3106993
>>3106996
>>3107001

Don't tell
>>3106970
>>3107002
>>3107018
>>3107029
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>>3107037
>They could decide to drop the whole bottle off the side of the city and we'd still be better off than at Gloriana's mercy.
It probably doesn't help that Gloriana likes us. Man, you've got to feel sorry for people who require a City-appointed duelist, they've got a chance at having Gloriana inflicted on them.

>>3100278

>You vaguely recall telling Sabino that you’d love ‘a taller woman treating me like sexy garbage’.
Hahaha!
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>>3107037
...I really do kind of want to see Sofia's adventures in the Lesser Realms. Mostly to see her get completely messed up.
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>>3107079
That's a tad sadistic
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>>3107079

>Sofia's adventures in the lower realms

Ah yes. I rather liked book 2 "Sofia almost drowns in a river only 2 feet deep."
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>>3107079
If we have a Christmas theme thread, I want it because Gloriana wants to act like anarchist Santa and forces Sofia join in as a reindeer/elf partner in crime because we were forced to promise her a favor
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>>3107087
I mean...yes? Sadistic to her ego, maybe. Okay and probably physically but it's not like she shouldn't learn the concept of actual PAIN instead of casual flayings.

>>3107088
It'd be great! How would that happen with her, again? Admittedly I'm presuming she's at full height.

>>3107089
That sounds hilarious.
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>>3107095

She's never swam in her life. The deepest water she's ever been in is a foot of hot, clean, soapy water in her tub.

It's going to be an incredibly terrifying experience for her to experience cold, dirty water that soaks her clothes, weighs her down and has a turbulent current.


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>>3107101
HA. I stand by my statement, then.
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So you guys realize you're betting on Gloriana not fucking Sofia over right?

And you took that bet
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>>3107117
She's going to extract her pound of flesh from us. That is true... I'm hoping it'll be entertaining.
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>>3107117
only if she wins.
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>>3107122

Here's hoping all the anons have generated a working sentiment du fer instead mindlessly pursuing big dice all the time.
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>>3107128
I'm new, we just roll 3d100 right?
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>>3107134
nope! It's more complicated

Imagine you have a deck of cards have a variety of moves and abilities. You must choose six moves and one ability out of that deck to make your own personal deck. Choose your load out, but remember it's locked when chosen. Ability is optional, you can opt to have none.
Each round, you have to choose three cards from your personal deck, you can take the same action 3 times.
But remember your opponent will be presenting three cards too. If their cards counter yours it's going to do something bad, maybe even end you and the duel.
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Rolled 73, 34, 39 = 146 (3d100)

>>3107135
I did it!
I know how the system works.
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>>3107122
>Only if she wins.
Good point, but we just gave her motivation to win.

>>3107134
Nope.

>>3101532
>2)Here are the duel rules if you need a refresher: https://pastebin.com/6eTp737y
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>>3107128
I doubt it.
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>>3107128
Oh I'm going to sit back and enjoy you not doing CCx3 this time.

Like there are some times you have a point, but you can't lose doing to Gloriana if you do CCx3.

Go ahead and be fancy though.
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>>3107154
WE can also not win too.

And I am betting ouro changed her move set up to avoid this shit again.
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>>3107161
I've got my popcorn ready.
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>>3107154
If the duel doesn't happen soon, I won't be around to make a selection. It's getting late
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>Tell her.

No, you need to tell her. Surely you can trust her to not leave you to die? To languish forever at the bottom of a bottle? No, surely even she has her limits.
“I’ve got a suggestion,” you wheeze, ceasing your movements. It’s fucking exhausting.

“Hey! I didn’t say you could stop!”

“Shut up! You’re an absolutely awful stinky bitch!”

“True. What of it?”

“If you need a term, just ask for both of us to be returned to our former sizes, alright?”
Hopefully she understands your plan.

“Huh? How are you going to manage that?”
She’s silent for a moment.
Oh. Sophie, you’re so clever!”

“I know, right? And since I told you I can-”

Gloriana talks right over you, setting her chest to motion all around you as she stands.
“The other term is that the challenged party has to return me to my appropriate size after the duel. Understood?”

“What!?,” you scream helplessly as Ennio agrees.

“Hush.”
Gloriana pulls her breasts just far apart enough that you start sliding downwards.
“Can you honestly say that you’re not perfect the way you are, Sophie?”

“Of course I’m perfect!,” you snarl, doing your best to stop yourself from slipping. ‘But-”

“Not even you can say otherwise, huh? Come on, tell me you’re not wonderful the way you are right now.”

“I know I’m wonderful-”

“Then it’s settled. I think it’d be great for your career if you stayed like this a little bit longer, Sophie! You know what they say, right? A bird in the bra is worth two in the bush. Although...that does give me an idea for later. Now, choose a time and place!”

“The bottle!,” you scream, frantically trying to keep your grip.

“And the time?”


>Right now, as you originally planned.

>In a few hours. Some extra time should help you figure another way out of this, right?

>Tomorrow. All the time! That’ll be enough time to find your godmother for sure!

>Other (Specify)
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>>3107188
>>Right now, as you originally planned.
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>>3107188
>Tomorrow. All the time! That’ll be enough time to find your godmother for sure!
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>>3107188
>>Right now, as you originally planned.

Oh who could have saw that coming?
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>>3107188
>>Tomorrow. All the time! That’ll be enough time to find your godmother for sure!
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>>3107188
>“The other term is that the challenged party has to return me to my appropriate size after the duel. Understood?”
Wow, how unexpected, lol.

>Right now!
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>>3107188
>"A bird in the bra is worth two in the bush. Although...that does give me an idea for later."
That actually went over my head until my second reading.
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Uh. People who're voting for more time ought to know that you're voting for Gloriana to handle us for longer, right? It's not as If we can escape her.
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>>3107188

>Right now, as you originally planned.
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>>3107188
>Right now, as you originally planned.

How could this happen!? Gloriana betraying us!?
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>>3107188
>Right now, as you originally planned.

Yes. This amuses me greatly.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3107212
>How could this happen!? Gloriana betraying us!?
Someone of her character? Who could have thought she'd be this despicable?!
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>>3107221
>Yes. This amuses me greatly.
Shhh, we're pretending to be shocked and horrified.
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>>3107188
Oh no, now we're Gloriana's tiny sex slave.
How awful.
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>>3107227
IT really kinda is, she's doing to us what Sabino's Ringmistress does to him, except worse.
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Indeed a shocker, but sort of out of character for Sofia to actually give Gloriana the benefit of the doubt. It's us anons who are responsible and not Sofia really. I can't say I really really regret it because it amuses me so.
I'm sure it won't be amusing if it prematurely ends the game because Gloriana crushes us and kills us after this is all said and done.
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>>3107252
Which she would, or worse, because she's basically what Sofia would be without the inner concern for others.
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>Right now, as you originally planned.

“Right now!”

“That’s a shame,” Gloriana booms, letting go and pushing you back up into your previous position. “I was hoping that you’d say ‘later’ because then I would have gotten to take you home with me. Would you have liked that Sophie? I’d say not but considering how you’ve been acting...I’m getting mixed signals.”

“I’d never want that!”

“Really? Well right now you better start wanting it because I have a brilliant idea.”

“Eh?”
What now?”

“We’ve got to get in the bottle, right? But what if I ask Ennio to flip his perspective on me while you’re still down there? That sure sounds like I’d be four inches tall and you’d be, oh, even cuter. Would you like to fight a duel like that?”

“No!”
Oh fuck, you hadn’t even thought of that!”

“Well I can’t refuse you Sophie. So if you make me a really tempting offer I’ll fish you out before I get bottled. So what’ll it be? Do I have a starting bid?”


>”What do you even want?”

>”Fine, do it, I’ll still win!”

>”...Do I need to start wriggling again?”

>”I’ll pay you! However much money you want!”

>”I’ll do anything you want!”

>”Make another offer (Specify)

>Other (Specify)
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>>3107251
That sounds like a spicy opinion

would be a shame if I … disagreed with it.
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>>3107269
>”...Do I need to start wriggling again?”

Start wriggling for emphasis. Cop a feel while you're at it.
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>>3107269
>”...Do I need to start wriggling again?”
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>>3107269
>"Like I'd believe you'd keep a deal!"
Also, then we could stab her in the boob.
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>>3107269
>”I’ll do anything you want!”
>”...Do I need to start wriggling again?”
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>>3107269
>>Other (Specify)
Let's just duel.
I don't think ennio can flip even more on us. That would be truly amazing, but I think there are limits to his abilities.
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>>3107269
>>”...Do I need to start wriggling again?”
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>>3107285
Alright well that's just suicidal.
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>>3107297
Well he's the 'I only vote what's funny guy' so what can you expect
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Man, you guys are way more enthusiastic about this than I was expecting.
I guess I can call the vote already, it seems pretty unanimous.
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>>3107269
>>”...Do I need to start wriggling again?”
>What do you even want?

We've reached the point where we are all out of fucks
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I get the feeling that if we started our duel between Gloriana's boobs, it would be a really popular one to watch in the Court of Swords.

>>3107301
Please be fair to me, I've been pretty useful in figuring out traps

>>3107297
How's that? Duel starts, we stab or bite the wall of flesh right next to us, yay we win.
...and then we're stuck in a bottle with a huge turned-on Gloriana, so yeah, you're right.
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It looks like it's bed time for me. Just when things were going to get interesting ARGH!
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>>3107309
Watching and playing as Sofia The Failure Duelist is honestly a lot more fun and entertaining than watching and playing Sofia Wins Everything.
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>>3107310
I for one am immensely enjoying the current situation
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>>3107272
>
opinion


Literal fact


Sure whatever m8

>>3107291
>>3107285
These


>>3107309
It seems like the trolls are out and want us to become cennen 2.0.
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>>3107321
Just don't deliberately throw things. That shit is lame. Try your best and fail like we usually do.
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>>3107336
>It seems like the trolls are out and want us to become cennen 2.0.
Cennen was evil and spineless. Sophia is fighting the whole way down.

>>3107341
We're not failing as badly as we could have. We could have voted for more time.
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>>3107341
I'm not, don't worry.
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>>3107352
Cennen was not evil nor spineless, until the voters made him that way be continuously valuing snake pussy over anything and everything else.

Remember how at the beginning it was all "we'll put her on the right path guys! totally We'll be the power behind the throne!"

Given you are all going googoo over the obviously evil and malicious bitch who wants to keep us as a sex slave and rape us, I fail to see the distinction.
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Sorry for the delay, I’ve been getting ready for work.

>”...Do I need to start wriggling again?”

You sigh imperceptibly. You already know what she wants from you, it’s the only thing you have the power left to give her. Remember when you were worried about keeping your dignity? Well, you’ve stopped giving a fuck. You’ll do anything to just get this humiliation over with.

“Do I need to start wriggling again?”
Without waiting for an answer, you throw your tired body back into motion! You kick and writhe and paw at the slippery walls of flesh. At this point any erotic signifier it might have had in your mind has vanished. It’s just too big. It’s just flesh. But it’s the only weapon you have.

Gloriana’s breathing begins to grow ragged, you can tell as the tremors increase. It’s okay, you tell yourself grimly. This is what you chose.
“Actually not what I had in mind,” she says quickly. “But this is fine too.”

As you continue to labour, an unbidden thought rises in your mind. Adriana. Is that why you’re doing this? Are you just that frustrated from this morning? Is Gloriana just a conveniently emotionally detached doll upon which to vent?
Well no. She sort of forced you into this, right? You’re just going down fighting.

Some minutes pass, all of which must be incredibly uncomfortable for the other two people in the room. Good. And then Gloriana speaks, her voice felt through her skin more than it is heard.
“Okay that’s enough. That’s enough. Stop!”

You fall into blessed stillness, breathing as hard as you are able in this humid mess.

“What would you do if I didn’t let you go after that? If I just went through with my plan after you so eagerly volunteered?”

“..What?”
You’re too tired to object.

“Oh no no no, I’m just kidding. I would never do that to you, Sophie!”

She fishes you out and for the first time in what feels like forever, you can breathe freely in the clear air! But only for a moment. You’ve only just opened your eyes when Gloriana brings you up to her mouth and…licks you.

It’s long and it’s slow and it travels up your whole body, leaving your skin and clothes drenched. You splutter, hyperventilating the thought of being crushed in such a stupid way.
“Wha-wh ih ahgh!”

“Here you go.”
Gloriana rolls you onto the table, where you lie in a sodden heap next to your sword.
“I do keep my word you know. Have at it.”

You don’t think you have very long to prepare for the duel.
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>>3107424
Choose your loadout! Choose six Techniques and one Ability. You can opt to take no Ability if you choose. A loadout with no Ability selected will be treated as a vote for having none.

ABILITIES

>Professional Provocateur: [ABILITY]At the end of each round, if you have successfully performed a Trick and have not lost any Composure dice, the single lowest die in your opponent’s Technique Pool is moved to their Strike Pool. If there are no dice in your opponent’s Technique Pool, the lowest die in their Composure Pool is moved to their Technique Pool instead.

TECHNIQUES

>Brute Strike: [STRIKE]Siphon the lowest value dice from your Composure Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage.

>Focussed Blow: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage.

>Counting Coup: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. Next time you use this in the same duel, upgrade it by 2 sides. This caps at d10 and if done again afterwards, resets back to d4.

>Gritted Teeth: [TRICK]Move the highest value die from your Technique Pool to your Composure Pool.

>Elegance: [FLOURISH] Declare either Strike, Flourish, Trick or Stance. Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. When your opponent makes their next move, if it is the same category of move as declared, generate a die of equal value to the lowest value dice in your Composure Pool.

>Unassailable Rookie: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, all dice that your opponent rolls out of their Strike Pool take a -1 penalty to their final result. Can only be active while you have a d4 in your Composure Pool.

>Underhanded Deflection: [TRICK]Lower the sides of all the dice currently in your opponent’s Technique pool by 1.

>Crushing Grip: [STRIKE]Siphon no dice. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. If no Composure dice are destroyed as a result of this, whether through damage or through an ability, destroy the single highest value die in your opponent’s Technique Pool.

>Circle Guard: [TRICK]Your opponent cannot siphon dice into their Strike Pool this round. If they attempt to, destroy the single lowest die in their Technique Pool. This Technique cannot be used if your Technique Pool is empty.

>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.
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>>3107430
>Focussed Blow
>Counting Coup
>Crushing Grip
>Circle Guard
>Skin Unthorned
>Elegance

>Professional Provocateur
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>>3107424
Oh my god

Sorry Adriana, but you can't compete with this.

>>3107430
Really wish we had taken the Hot for Teacher ability, but we had to grab some dumb stance instead.

>PP (double trouble)
>Focused Blow
>Crushing Grip
>Elegance
>Circle Guard
>Brute Strike
>Gritted Teeth
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Alright I'm hands off for this. Consider this a test. You guys know how to beat her. You all learned from the first time you fought her right?

>>3107446
You've already failed. See me after class.
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>>3107424
>“I do keep my word you know. Have at it.”
[X] Doubt.

>Professional Provocateur
So she can't just CG-spam us, and I'd really like to do >>3106443 if we can swing it.
>Counting Coup
>Elegance
>Brute Strike
>Underhanded Deflection
Because Circle Guard + PP won't destroy Composure if there's a Strike.
>Crushing Grip
>Focused Blow
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I'm off to work. I'll be back later tonight!
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>>3107448
I reject your grading metric, and request to view your teaching credentials.
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>>3107424
Huh. I was honestly not expecting that. For some reason I thought
>”...Do I need to start wriggling again?”
was meant to be a weak threat, not an offer.
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>>3107430
>Professional Provocateur: [ABILITY]At the end of each round, if you have successfully performed a Trick and have not lost any Composure dice, the single lowest die in your opponent’s Technique Pool is moved to their Strike Pool. If there are no dice in your opponent’s Technique Pool, the lowest die in their Composure Pool is moved to their Technique Pool instead.

>Focussed Blow: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage.
>Counting Coup: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. Next time you use this in the same duel, upgrade it by 2 sides. This caps at d10 and if done again afterwards, resets back to d4
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>Elegance: [FLOURISH] Declare either Strike, Flourish, Trick or Stance. Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. When your opponent makes their next move, if it is the same category of move as declared, generate a die of equal value to the lowest value dice in your Composure Pool.
>Crushing Grip: [STRIKE]Siphon no dice. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. If no Composure dice are destroyed as a result of this, whether through damage or through an ability, destroy the single highest value die in your opponent’s Technique Pool.
>Circle Guard: [TRICK]Your opponent cannot siphon dice into their Strike Pool this round. If they attempt to, destroy the single lowest die in their Technique Pool. This Technique cannot be used if your Technique Pool is empty.
>Skin Unthorned: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, any Strike pool targeting you cannot roll d4s. They remain in the Strike Pool unrolled. Can only be active while you have a d6 in your Composure Pool.

>>3107446
Wanting discount hiss with a worse attitude.

>>3107455
If she has any tech dice PP won't do shit and UD won't do much either due to the fact is reduces by 1
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Gloriana is definitely not Hissy.

Can I interest people in Brute Strike? It's good for breaking her d4s without needing a CC.

>>3107468
>If she has any tech dice PP won't do shit and UD won't do much either due to the fact is reduces by 1
Sure, but we're trying to get her d10 when she has no tech, which is most easily done right around when we think she's going to attack. But if we use CG, her tech pool won't empty.
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>>3107485
Now tell me why would you want to break her d4s? Do you remember what happens she loses her d4s? This is an open book test.
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>>3107485
>Can I interest people in Brute Strike? It's good for breaking her d4s without needing a CC.


It isn't not with unassailable rookie up.

about CG is fair

>>3107430
>>3107468
Swap Cg for UD
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>>3107488
Look at the plan I linked. The plan is to break the d4s, then /immediately/ drag her d10 out with PP, then immediately end the duel. Lightning-fast.


>>3107492
>It isn't not with unassailable rookie up.
True. On the other hand, her PP is going to be targeting our d4s, as will our Brute Strikes. We've got 4d4s? It won't take long until we're rolling d5, d7. And she's going to be building our Strike pool. Say we have a d4 in the Strike Pool, we'll roll 2d4 with Brute Strike.
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>>3107512
Your plan has us leave out stance, which I am leery about.
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>>3107512
I'll make some popcorn. Hope it works out. Dunno if the odds are in your favor.
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>>3107517
Our Stance?
I'm not married to Elegance or Crushing Grip, though they'd be useful in the right place, but our Skin Unthorned is proof against d4s, when her dice tend to range wildly between d4s and d10s, and SU would also keep us from wanting to use our Comp d6 in Brute Strike.
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>>3107430

I'm going to copy and paste out Gloriana's techniques from the previous duel. Odds are good that she's changed up at least one thing, but it's still smart to have them present.

> Abilities: Professional Provocateur: [ABILITY]At the end of each round, if you have successfully performed a Trick and have not lost any Composure dice, the single lowest dice in your opponent’s Technique Pool is moved to their Strike Pool. If there are no dice in your opponent’s Technique Pool, the lowest dice in their Composure Pool is moved to their Technique Pool instead.)

Techniques:

> Gain Some Distance: [TRICK]Destroy all dice in your opponent’s Strike Pool. If it was already empty, generate a d4 in your Composure Pool and your opponent is prevented from siphoning dice to their Strike Pool this round. You must then activate a valid Stance in this same action. You cannot use this Technique if you already have a Stance active.

> Unassailable Rookie: [STANCE]Once this Stance is active, all dice that your opponent rolls out of their Strike Pool take a -1 penalty to their final result. Can only be active while you have a d4 in your Composure Pool.

> Counting Coup: [FLOURISH]Generate a d4 into your Technique Pool. Next time you use this in the same duel, upgrade it by 2 sides. This caps at d10 and if done again afterwards, resets back to d4.

> Flashing Steel: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. Damage from this Technique is dealt first to your opponent’s Strike Pool, treating the dice within as if they were Composure dice for the purposes of destruction. The difference between the highest dice value in the Strike Pool and the damage rolled is then dealt to the Technique Pool in the same fashion. And if the damage continues to overflow, the remainder is inflicted upon the Composure Pool in the same way.

> Crushing Grip: [STRIKE]Siphon no dice. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. If no Composure dice are destroyed as a result of this, whether through damage or through an ability, destroy the single highest value die in your opponent’s Technique Pool.

> Underhanded Deflection: [TRICK]Lower the sides of all the dice currently in your opponent’s Technique pool by 1.
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>>3107518
I kept in CC and FB, your plan is still viable.
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>>3107531
My plan for the first 4 moves is

Elegance Trick
as her first move is likely to be cc or GSD, banking on gsd as it is more action efficient
Elegance Floursih
She's going to assume we're going to build up Counting Coup, and she needs the dice.
Elegance Trick again
since I assume she will UD to lower our dice now we have a few dice in our CC queu
Elegance Strike
since she'd be spamming CG to kill our d8
Next turn would be to unload on her while she tries to either hit our dice down with steel or cc again to build up dice to remove the zerg.

She'll get stunned either way kill her que, might even kill her on a good roll.
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>>3107554
You think she's going to use GSD on turn 1, when the best part of it is destroying dice in the strike pool and preventing siphoning into the strike pool? Yeah, I don't see it.
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>>3107430

Now, going down our choices:

> Focused Blow
> Counting Coup
> Elegance

These three are our core and should definitely be taken. As for the others, there are a few different choices we can work with.

> Brute Strike

Given how PP results in a build-up of dice in the Strike Pool, utilizing BS to add an additional die to the pile would work out nicely, especially if we are careful and keep our tech pool padded so we don't lose d4 Comp dice. This is extremely important if we take SU, as we don't want to accidentally knock ourselves out of the stance.

> Gritted Teeth

If we do take SU, it may be smart to take GT as well in case we lose our d6 and want to get it back. However, I'd consider this a low-priority due to something I'll mention when I talk about SU.

> Underhanded Deflection

Might be useful, but we have Circle Guard to intercept attacks when we know they're incoming and if we take PP we'll be reducing the number of dice in her tech pool, and thus how many we effect with this trick.

> Crushing Grip

Very useful for double taps and breaking tech dice, but unlike UD this won't clash as much with PP given how CG effects the highest and PP effects the lowest.

> Circle Guard

Good defensive option that also works with PP. It can be risky with how much dice Gloriana will have in her Strike pool if we do take PP, but again I'll address this under SU.

> Skin Unthorned

This Stance is really strong in this fight, especially with how Flashing Steel is Gloriana's primary ability which treats our Strike and Tech pools like they're their own Comp pool. This mean that she will have to do upwards of 24 damage, if we have a d12 in both Strike and Tech, but more reasonably 20 damage in order to even get into our Comp pool, at which point she'll need to do another 6 damage to break this Stance. She'll have to do 26 damage in one roll without using any 1d4's, which given how she's got 5 of them in her Comp pool, she'll have plenty of those in her Tech and Strike pools even though CC is her only way of generating Tech. Combine this with Circle Guard, which'll go a long way towards reducing the amount of damage we'll take if we time it properly, and we have a very, very solid defense so long as we continue to build tech dice after assuming this Stance.
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>>3107430
>PP

>focussed
>counting
>elegance
>brute
>unthorned
>circle
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>>3107430

As for my actual vote, for now I'll put down:

> Professional Provocateur

> Focused Blow
> Counting Coup
> Elegance
> Crushing Grip
> Circle Guard
> Skin Unthorned

Brute Strike might come in handy, but I think the defensive benefit of SU outweighs the slight offensive benefit of BS, when we could just use CC/Elegance to build up more dice and we won't be putting our stance at risk by accident.

Feel free to argue my choices and/or my statements here >>3107594 before the vote is called.
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>>3107430

>Brute Strike
>Counting Coup
>Gritted Teeth
>Underhanded Deflection
>Crushing Grip
>Skin Unthorned
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>>3107594

>PP

>Focused Blow
>Counting Coup
>Elegance
>Crushing Grip
>Circle Guard
>Skin Unthorned

Skin Unthorned to put her 2d4 down in our first action (assuming she's going to GSD and CC at some point) CC to Lethal values. Strike, poke for lethal. In case of whiff, CC to lethal AGAIN, with a Circle Guard or Crushing Grip in case she's actually built high enough to break 12 reliably.

Which she shouldn't get. We should build to a 80% fatal Focused Blow and just get this over with.
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>>3107594
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>>3107430
>Professional Provocateur
>Counting Coup
>Elegance
>Brute Strike
>Underhanded Deflection
>Crushing Grip
>Focused Blow

Not going for SU because she'll only have a lot of d4s in her tech if we try to leech them slowly with PP.
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Also, kek at the anons who, when faced with failure, go "It's what I actually wanted" and "I'm enjoying this!" You're amusingly pathetic.
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>>3107739
I mean, I'm sincere about it. I've always somewhat disliked Sofia's character since word go, and these occurrences kind of make said character more tolerable.
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>>3107779
You are Sophia's character, anon. Well, we collectively are.
You are making her what she is with your votes.
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>>3107430
> Professional Provocateur
> Focused Blow
> Counting Coup
> Elegance
> Crushing Grip
> Circle Guard
> Skin Unthorned
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>>3107783
To an extent, but she clearly has a pre-defined personality base, which colors her interactions. We're working to adjust that personality, yeah, but it's not like she was a blank slate starting off.
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>>3107786
We have achieved some remarkable progress i nmaking her a better person. You could join the effort instead of voting to see her suffer.
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>>3107849
I already have. Hence the 'we', not the 'you'. She's still got a long way to go, in my opinion.

And honestly, I've never voted in a trollish or 'suffer' direction. I WANT her to be a better person. It's more that I just find amusement in what happens to her regardless since I think she can grow from it all.
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Alright I'm back. I just gotta figure out which of these votes have actually won.
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Alright, vote called and writing.
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>Professional Provocateur
>Focussed Blow
>Counting Coup
>Crushing Grip
>Circle Guard
>Skin Unthorned
>Elegance

You go through your handbag, well aware that you’re in full view of all three giants. You’re absolutely covered in sweat and spit and most of it isn’t yours. Your clothes are wet, your hair is wet, you’re wet and the architect of it all is standing smugly above you as if you’re not about to kick her ass. You don’t actually say that out loud though, lest she follow through with her threat of having you shrunk a second time. Defiance is all well and good but one has to be realistic.
Not that it wasn’t wholly unenjoyable, you suppose. You had found entertainment in it, so to speak. If it was just a different situation, and maybe with a different person, you could have had fun. Maybe with Adriana...but that thought is painful.

But you digress. Now is the time to cross swords, to duel, to win. Not to reflect on strange and new desires that may have awakened within you.

As usual, you cover yourself in Maccio’s doublet, take up Albero’s old scabbard and, with a new addition, pin the rose to your sticky lapel. Then, after a moment’s hesitation, you take up the lock of Gloriana’s hair. Gloriana...when first you met, she’d left you frustrated and burning with a feeling so deep and sudden that it could only be hate or love or both. But now is the time you give everything back. You’re going to crush her.

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It takes a few minutes to set up. You watch from the table as Ennio drags down one of the larger bottles, one with a model ship already inside. Above you, Gloriana re-fastens the top ribbon, closing up her vest. Donatella is chewing Ennio out all the while.
“What are we going to do now? You told me that this would be an easy way to transfer it over without anyone noticing! You know they are watching my finances!”

“Maybe this was a bad idea. Maybe you were wrong and you were just paranoid!”

“I wasn’t! That untouchable girl has been tailing me twice in the last two days!”

You have no idea what they’re talking about and no capability to ask. They won’t hear you.

*****

Your perspective twists.

You and Gloriana are standing on the deck of a massive ship. Of course, up this close it’s very obvious that the ship is a model but fuck it, compared to it and her you’re finally normal sized again! Normal sized as long as you pretend not to notice the bottle that you, Gloriana and the ship are all in.

Gloriana leans up against the mast. Even with your scales corrected, she still has three inches on you. Her garish sword hangs idly in one hand.
“I like your new outfit, Sophie. I didn’t notice it before since you were so tiny.”

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>>3108061
“It’s none of your business.”

“Once we’re done and I’m big once more, would you like me to lick you again?”

Your words die in your mouth and you feel your cheeks warm as you stumble through the wreckage of your sentence.
“I uh, um...no.”

“That’s what I thought. You were a very eager participant, weren’t you? I really didn’t expect that from you.”

Its true, you may have been a little over-eager.
“It’s not going to matter! Because I’m going to beat you and there’s no questioning that!”

She swaggers forward slowly and you try not to remember the taste and sound and smell and feel of being encompassed and surrounded by her.
“I was just expecting a tease but you went at it like you woulda jumped up my arse if I let you! You can’t imagine how tempted I was to keep you in that perfect little form for the duel.”

“Are you paying attention to anything I’m saying?”

“What, that you’re going to beat me? Of course you are! You’re amazing and I’m just trash. But I’m going to drag it out. I’m going to make this duel an absolute farce. And once we’ve had our fun, you know what I’ll do.”
She motions down at her toned legs, covered in self-inflicted duelling scars.

“Not this time. This time I’m going to take you all the way.”
Your swords kiss one another and for a moment, you and Gloriana are much too close.

“Let’s speak the spell. And then after that, you can go straight back to your new home.”

You don’t dignify that with an answer, trying to ignore the frustration she naturally generates with every word. Instead, you just turn away from her and walk the length of the ship. You can hear her do the same.
“Representing the challenger,” she bellows, her voice bouncing off the walls of the giant bottle, “I claim rights to offence! Should I win, the challenged must relinquish the lump, restore me to my proper size and in addition, present apologies to my client while also naked and kissing her boots! Failure to comply will be punished under High Law!”

Why did she have to make it like that? You already know why however. To make it all a farce. A joke. That’s all duelling means to her.
“Representing the challenged, I claim right to redress! When I win, the challenger will relinquish their claim on the lump and in addition, a legal investigation will be called to examine the subject in question! If she does not comply, she will be tried in High Court!”

As you turn, you see Gloriana stick out her tongue salaciously. It’s all you can do to to keep yourself composed. No Sofia, no. You can beat her up after you enter the Wake.

And then, the two of you as one:
“See and be unseen!”

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>>3108062

You See.

The bottle fades out and the world becomes a vast chamber of darkness, distant walls of shadow enclosing the wayward boat. The objects and people of the massive room become flat shadows and etched lines in the background, far too massive to matter. And up above it all, the dome of shadow is pierced by a dozen dozen holes, through which leaks through the sightless sight of something you can never see. This whirling invisible sun screams noumenon.

You are Unseen.

Atop the sailing vessel are two people, two girls. One has skin of molten orange, her dark black hair and clothes in strict counterpoint to it, Sparks crawl and flicker in her wake, each one a burning pupil. The other is a luminescent green, a glowing thing whose skin is etched with purple sigils that can be seen through her vest and her skirt. Her hair is an eye-searing purple and stamped into her forehead, embedded into her skull, is a small star of iron. You cannot tell either of them apart.

*!

And then you are snatched from the clutches of ego-death and dissociation and bundled up within the comforting walls of Self once more. You stare down at her hand, observing the flows in your warm orange skin. It ripples like water.
In front of you, the manic neon beast that is Gloriana raises her sword.

It’s time to regain the honour she stole from you. You match her movement with your own for a moment and then, studying her closely, you charge!
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It's time to commit to your opening strike! Instead of the usual queues, you first choose only one Technique.

Choose one:

>Focussed Blow

>Counting Coup

>Crushing Grip

>Circle Guard

>Skin Unthorned

>Elegance
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>>3108065
>Counting Coup
I'm trying to go ahead with >>3106443. If it fails, we always can try to spam CC.
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>>3108065
>Skin Unthorned
Just to remind everyone, she can Rookie OR GSD to achieve the same effect, so Elegance is running on a 50% chance at best.
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>>3108065
>Elegance:Flourish
I think she'll go for CC. We can put up Skin Unthorned after.

It's really too bad we don't have Brute Strike.
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I must sleep now. I will be absent for most of tomorrow too so apologies in advance.
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>>3108070
Assuming she wants to make her GSD unusable.
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>>3108065

> Counting Coup

Next turn we can set up SU, but for now let’s get some tech dice building.
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>>3108070
>>3108071
>>3108076
Why Skin Unthorned? Even if she tries to actually strike us, only one in four of her tech dice is a d4
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>>3108077
Because people insisted on SU over BS and I'm caving to peer pressure.
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>>3108079
Stay strong, anon
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>>3108077

I wrote a paragraph on why we should use SU in this duel here >>3107594 .
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>>3108065
>SU
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>>3108082
>1d4's, which given how she's got 5 of them in her Comp pool, she'll have plenty of those in her Tech and Strike pools even though CC is her only way of generating Tech

I have a feeling this assumes we will try to leech her Comp dice with PP. This will take a lot of time (2 turns per die in ideal conditions) and can be countered by her CCing constantly.

The plan here >>3106443 is intended to get rid of her d4s in one blow instead.
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>>3108082
I forgot one more thing - Gloriana can destroy our d6 with her PP, and the stance will fall.
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Assuming she hasn't changed her moves, here's why I think she'll go for Counting Coup, and why we should go for Elegance:Flourish.
She's not going for GSD or UR because GSD is too good to waste now. She'll want to wait until it'll be most frustrating for us.
She might go for UD in order to take a Comp d4, but genning a d4 will block that.
She might go for Grip, but then we're just where we started and we can just do it again.
She won't do Flashing Steel because she has no dice.
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>>3108099
I too think she will go for CC, but even a successful Elegance will only gain us 2d4, not enough to do anything and easily destroyable by Flashing Steel later.
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>>3108065
>Elegance Flourish
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>>3108095

That’s only if we’re not keeping our tech pool up which we absolutely should be doing.
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>Elegance: Flourish
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>>3108085
The issue with the plan you linked is that you're praying that you can catch her with no tech dice when you Trick which means predicting and letting a FS hit you a round before the Trick
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>>3108122
You assume she will gen tech. I assume she will instead interfere with our own tech gen, as she did the last time. And even if this plan fails, we lose nothing, while the potential gain is a fast win.
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>>3108122
If she has any tech we can return to CCing and trying to beat her conventionally.
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>>3108101
>even a successful Elegance will only gain us 2d4
We can use that 2d4 immediately to try to wreck her Comp d4s, which doesn't even give her a GSD because she has one available anyway.
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>>3108127

The only thing that prevents her from using GSD is when she’s already in a Stance. Having d4’s in her comp pool does not.
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>>3108125
She's always thrown a CC here and there. How else will she get enough for FS to fuck with Sofia harder?

Just one tech die messes with your plan.

>>3108126
At least you have that as a back up.
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>>3108127
True, but 1d4+1d6 from CCx2 would be more reliable.

>>3108128
That she can use GSD doesn't mean she will use it. It's a tool for breaking peoples' strikes. She has no reason to assume we'll strike this early.
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>>3108128
The only thing that prevents her from using GSD is when she’s already in a Stance. Having d4’s in her comp pool does not.
That's true, we're not destroying her d4s to keep her from stancing up with GSD. We'd be doing it to leave her with a single Comp die that we could steal with PP if she FSes us. Rattling is also good.
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>>3108131
>True, but 1d4+1d6 from CCx2 would be more reliable.
Not as fast.
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>>3108132
>We'd be doing it to leave her with a single Comp die that we could steal with PP if she FSes us.

Here in lies the issue. You have to be reactionary to the FS emptying her tech pool and during the time between killing the d4s and when you think and FS might happen she can just GSD again and you're back at square one.
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>>3108136
We lose nothing by trying. We can build up our own tech as much as we want in the meantime.
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>>3108136
>Here in lies the issue. You have to be reactionary to the FS emptying her tech pool and during the time between killing the d4s and when you think and FS might happen she can just GSD again and you're back at square one.
You're not wrong, except that it's not square one. It'd leave her with up to two dice in Comp instead of six dice. Much better for PP strats.
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>>3108140
But then she is onto you and she knows PP the best.

Circle Guard isn't the best for PP Composure fishing either as it prevents the Tech dices from being siphoned in case she does FS.

It's fantastic in conjunction with SU and PP for splitting a opponents dice pools up and only allowing the tiny bit in the Strike pool to fire instead of both Tech and Strike, but not for Composure stealing.

This plan relies on a lot of variables so I'm dubious to it working, but you have a back up and there is some logic behind it.

At least you aren't planning to Elegance d4 spam. Worst thing you can do against a opponent with FS.
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>>3108131

I’m aware, which is why I want to bait it out before we commit to an offensive.

>>3108132

That can work, but like others have said it’s going to be for a situation where she has no tech dice left. For it to work properly, we’d have to spend a full turn with FB + Circle G + Crushing G.

Personally though i’d go with this for our coming turns:

> CC

> SU
> CC
> CC

> CC
> FB
> Crushing G

So long as GSD is used before that last turn I think it’s a safe bet. However, if she starts CC spamming to counter out offensive i’d go with Circle G or Crushing G to stunt it before it can start, though we’d need to be careful with the later since it does use Strike dice.
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>>3108143
>But then she is onto you
True, she'll start Flashing Steel and immediately Counting Coup to defend her Comp dice. But since CC is her only tech-generating move, that makes her predictable enough to Elegance her.

>Circle Guard isn't the best for PP Composure fishing either as it prevents the Tech dices from being siphoned in case she does FS.
I knowwww, that's why I argued against it. But people didn't want Underhanded Deflection. It's a serious hole in the plan, makes it so Circle Guard needs to be used only after Flashing Steel and before she CCs, or if she only had one die in Tech for FS.

>>3108146
>we’d have to spend a full turn with FB + Circle G + Crushing G.
Even that's not a sure thing, since I think we'll have 2d4 after the first turn so she'll want to GSD ASAP. That will block the Focused Blow. And since I think she'll have done CC on the first turn, Circle isn't going to do anything either.

As for your plan, I can't imagine she won't Crushing Grip us a couple of times, especially once she sees us CCing up. That'll leave you with at most a d4 and d6.
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Question: If Gloriana sees us with 2d4 in our first turn and she has 1d4, what will she do?
>Counting Coup then FS?
>GSD immediately to counter a Strike and put up her defensive Stance?
>Crushing Grip to make it a 1d4, but too late to avoid a Strike?
>UD to make it 2d3?
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>>3108151

I’m entirely in favor of re-evaluating our plan depending on how this first round and the second go. If Gloriana says something along the lines of “you’re doing that again?” I’d say we switch to SU, E(S), E(S) instead for the second round.
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>>3108069
>>3108076
>>Counting Coup

>>3108070
>>3108084
>>Skin Unthorned

>>3108071
>>3108117
>>Elegance:Flourish
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>>3108186
>Elegance

You gained 2d4! Gloriana destroys it with the CrG you were predicting!

Do Circle Guard. At least that way you're working towards something with PP instead of wasting time.
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>>3108228
To be accurate, CrG will destroy only one d4. It doesn't change much though.
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>>3108228

GSD only destroys strike dice. E(S) only generates tech dice and if she’s spamming Crushing to counter is she’s not using tricks and as such PP doesn’t proc. If she goes to Tricks we switch back to CC and out-macro her.
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>>3108228

And CrG only destroys a single dice, not two.
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>>3108326
Elegance is still a dead end. No matter how many d4s we get, a FS or some UDs will destroy them easily.
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>>3108404
Sure. That's why we shouldn't try to stock up on them. Use them as quickly as possible.
On the other hand, they're FS-bait. Small and easy to break, so she'll want to break them. Gives us a shot at PP Comp-draining.
(I really wish we had better Tricks to trigger PP with.)
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>>3108404
That's why we roll them quick and also why we shoulda taken Brute Strike
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>>3108411
Really wish I had been awake enough to give an actual argument for Brute Strike. It's fast, it synergizes with Gloriana's drain into our Strike Pool, it helps power up Elegance, and it's not as vulnerable to Gloriana's depredation on our Pools.
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>>3108417
RIP Ouro's weird Australian running hours
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>>3108077

Any PP dice that get moved out of her composure are going to be d4's or are going to break her.

Additionally, with the way flashing steel works, dropping a D4 from her can be the difference between keeping our good dice or not.
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>>3108490
Relying on PP to exhaust her d4s is too slow. We can do it much faster with a normal attack
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>>3108531

Alright. I'll try this one more time.

GSD means popping her D4's is actually meaningless. You've spent turns of buildup make her waste an action.

A d4 in composure is identical to 1000d4 in composure except against PP. Getting the timing right to have PP take down her d10 is possible, but unnecessary when we could just burst down the d10 along with the d4's.

In the meantime, Skin unthorned robs her 2 EV for every d4 she has. That's 2d4 out of her opening set alone if we don't bother with putting a trick down to PP, which turns it into 3d4 she can't use.

Putting her 4-6 EV behind us gives us more than enough opportunity to break her D10 as long as we reach out and break the large dice from CC.
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>>3108573
>GSD means popping her D4's is actually meaningless
GSD gives her a single d4. Instead of 4d4 she has at the start.

>we could just burst down the d10 along with the d4's
If we do that she doesn't get many d4s in tech, doesn't she? Why do we need SU then?
Not sure what you mean by EV.
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>>3108596
d4s add up and are hard to get rid of via CrG as they are the lowest dice. SU mitigates a decent chunk of what FS could do to our progress.
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>>3108596

EV means "Expected value". In the case of dice, it's the average.

Two d4 has an expected roll of 4. Three has an EV of 6

Let's pretend we get her down to 1d4. Now, every turn that our PP procs, she can GSD again, which she will at any chance she gets to keep her stance up or wipe our strike pool.

We're back into another frustrating loop.
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>>3108625
Actually, 2d4 has an EV of 5, and 2d6 has an EV of 7. :^)
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>>3108404

Alright, let's go down the list of moves that she has that can destroy our momentum:

> Gain Some Distance

This is the big one, which is why I've stated that we have to bait out this move before we begin a proper offensive. When Gloriana uses GSD, it will destroy our strike pool, giving her an extra d4 Comp if the pool is empty, and will allow her to take UR, but once she has used it we will be able to win as this technique will be off the table until her Stance is broken.

From here on down, I'm assuming that GSD has already been utilized and that we have SU active.

> Crushing Grip

This is the counter to Counting Coup. It will be mainly used to target our tech pool, as any d4's that get pushed into her Strike Pool become useless thanks to SU, and will destroy our largest dice first. If she starts spamming CGr, we either switch to Elegance (Strike) or we attack before she can destroy any more dice. Your plan of using FB + CGu + CGr might actually work best here, as she'll be over-committed to Strikes, thus vulnerable to Rattle, and she won't be utilizing PP to threaten our Comp pool.

> Underhanded Deflection

This is the counter to Elegance, at least while we still have d4's in our Comp pool. It will be mainly used to target large groups of tech dice, however this is not a threat because Gloriana has to take four actions of only using UD in order to eliminate our d4's. Not only that, every time she uses UD and we don't break any of her Comp pool her PP activates and moves the lowest of our tech dice to our strike pool, where UD cannot target them. As a matter of fact, every time Gloriana uses UD she is working against herself as that is another dice that she cannot target unless she uses Flashing Steel.

> Flashing Steel

This is Gloriana's sole method of targeting our Strike Pool, as it goes after that pool first, then Tech, and then finally our Comp pool. However, Gloriana does not have any method of building up the Tech dice necessary to threaten our Strike Pool outside of Counting Coup. If she is using CGr or UD to wear down our Tech pool, she is not building up the necessary macro to properly utilize FS. Her first use of CC will give her a d4 and the lowest four dice in her Comp pool, which is what our own PP Ability would target first, are all d4's themselves. Lo and behold, our SU stance completely rules out those d4's; making the five dice that Gloriana cannot utilize until our stance is broken which, if we are properly building up our Tech Pool, is extremely hard to do.

TL;DR: Gloriana cannot target our own pools and build up her own. She will have to chose one or the other, and we have strong defenses against all of them. Your plan to quickly break through her d4's and use PP to remove her d10 from the equation can work, but it is not the only way to win this.
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>>3108069
>>3108076
CC

>>3108070
>>3108084
SU

>>3108071
>>3108109
>>3108117
E:f

Vote called, writing.
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>>3108625
>Now, every turn that our PP procs, she can GSD again
GSD only gens a d4 into her Comp if we have no Strike Dice. Unfortunately, it looks like the only way to preserve Strike Dice through a FS is by having really big dice.
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>>3108625
Oh. Then you should know that EV of 2d4 is actually 5, and for 3d4 it's 7.5

GSD at the same turn we use CiG won't help her, because PP procs at the end of the turn
And if we get her down to a d4, we can break it with a normal strike, PP is not needed.
This doesn't save us from the frustrating loop though. We will be stuck in it regardless of how we deplete her composure.

>>3108643
Unfortunately, I realized that my plan of using FB + CGu + CGr contains a fatal flaw. CGu can't be used if our tech pool is empty, and FB will empty it.
Should've voted for UD like I did, anons.

UD is absolutely a threat because of UR. After one UD we'll be rolling d3-1s.

>Your plan to quickly break through her d4's and use PP to remove her d10 from the equation can work, but it is not the only way to win this.
I never said it's the only way. All I wanted was to convince you to try it out before resorting to slower methods.
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>>3108063
>It’s time to regain the honour she stole from you. You match her movement with your own for a moment and then, studying her closely, you charge!
Pssst, Ouro. Did we forget to have the blades kiss?
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>>3108669
>Unfortunately, I realized that my plan of using FB + CGu + CGr contains a fatal flaw. CGu can't be used if our tech pool is empty, and FB will empty it.
Not necessarily. Indeed, FB will empty our tech pool, but Gloriana will happily refill it for us.
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>>3108678
Ugh, no. PP will only proc if she doesn't lose Comp.
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>>3108678
Unless she uses CrG, which she also loves.
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>Elegance

I thought you kids wanted to go faster not slower.
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>>3108669

Right, overlooked that part of CGu as well. And that's a fair point about UD + UR.

>>3108678

Unfortunately, that won't work as PP only procs at the end of rounds and that's only if she doesn't lose Comp.
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>>3108675
No check upwards. It happened.
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>>3108693
>No check upwards. It happened.
Okay, found it. Guess there weren't any changes in Gloriana's Comp Dice since the last time.
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>Elegance: Flourish

The mast of the model ship splits the space between the two of you as you both advance. Both of you are moving slowly but where you’re cautious Gloriana is just casual. She’s practically strolling up to you. You move to the left and the moment you do so so, she takes to the right and so even as the distance between the two of you shrinks to just an inch, the mast stays between you.

“I do like your new outfit though,” Gloriana says, flipping her sword around idly as if she didn’t have a care in the world. You’re not fooled. “But I’ve got a dollhouse back home full of clothes that I think will fit you better.”
And then, the instant she finishes speaking, she reverses direction and darts to the left, her sword suddenly snaking right around the mast!

>Gloriana uses Counting Coup!

>ELEGANCE: Flourish!

But this is exactly what you’d been expecting. You knew she’d try something. So instead of trying to pull the distance or disengage, you lean into her attack and parry! You catch her sabre on the forte of your own, twisting it to the side!
You lash out with your off-hand but Gloriana is already pulling back, leaning into a squat to avoid your rising sabre and then disengaging with a quick shuffle of iron-shod boots.

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 1d4

>Gloriana’s Technique Pool: 1d4

“You were saying?”

“Eh? Why would that change what I said?”

>Elegance Prediction Bonus: 1d4

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 2d4

You’ve gained an advantage, albeit a small one. Now it’s up to you to press it home!
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>>3108704
>Duel Status: https://pastebin.com/AuXxSNRq

It's time to select a queue. Please choose three:

>Focussed Blow

>Counting Coup

>Crushing Grip

>Circle Guard

>Skin Unthorned

>Elegance
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Right. So, should we go immediately on the attack, Rattle her?
Should we assume she knows we're going to attack now, Elegance:Trick against either her UD or GSD?
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>>3108714

> Elegance (T)
> Skin Unthorned
> Focused Blow

This could work, especially if we assume that that she'll be using UD/GSD within her first two moves.

Not going to put an actual vote forwards until we discuss it more though.
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I won't be here for a good few hours. Vote will remain open.
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>>3108706
>Elegance: Trick
>Elegance: Flourish
>Focused Blow

She's probably going to UD us since d4 aren't worth a crushing grip, followed by another CC. As long as she doesnt GsD on round three we might just win right there. Even if she does we'll still have enough dice to win.
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>>3108704
>“I do like your new outfit though,” Gloriana says, flipping her sword around idly as if she didn’t have a care in the world. You’re not fooled. “But I’ve got a dollhouse back home full of clothes that I think will fit you better.”
>Respond. "But you have no intention of winning, so why even bother threatening me with that?"
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>>3108706
I expect her to go with an UD now, then CC again, then FS or CrG. Or CC+FS immediately.

In any case, I'd like to try and break her d4s, leaving her more vulnerable to PP

>Focused Blow
Right now, before she has time to do much to it. I'd try Elegance, but our record with it is horrible, the latest success notwithstanding
What she certainly will do is try and prevent us from gaining enough tech to break her, so a FB on the third turn is going to fail

>Skin Unthorned
>Counting Coup
For a potential Circle Guard next queue.
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I think you guys are leaving her too much time. She could CC and FS as quickly as she can. All she needs to beat d4s are1d4+1d6
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>>3108723
How does us winning affect her plans of taking us home and engaging in super hot size play?
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>>3108733
>How does us winning affect her plans of taking us home and engaging in super hot size play?
She'd still be stuck in the bottle with us until the investigation comes around.
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>>3108729
Maybe, but last time we preferred to build super big pools of certain victory and then attack. She won't expect a rush.
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>>3108740
Yes, but waiting until the end of the second round isn't a rush. From Gloriana's PoV, we could have 3d4+1d6 by then, easily enough to win.
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Alright, how about we put this down to a vote to help keep our planning focused.

Do we:
> Go for a round 1 alpha strike in this coming queue
> Build up our Tech Pool to attack either at the end of this queue or during the next one
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>>3108758
>> Go for a round 1 alpha strike in this coming queue
Alpha Strike. It's not going to do much, but it'll rattle her, might get us a free turn, might cancel her move on that turn. It's also likely to succeed.
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It's my first time trying to play the duel segment, what's the point in attacking with a fairly small dice pool? Are we hoping to rattle her?
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>>3108766
We have a 62.5% chance of breaking her d4's if we focused blow right now btw
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>>3108758
Alpha strike. Building up is too predictable.

>>3108769
And that's if she UDs. If not, it's 81.25%
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>>3108766
We're hoping to destroy her 4d4 in Composition, leaving her with 1d10 which would be more vulnerable to Professional Provocateur tricks.
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>>3108772
Oh we only have to match the die value, not exceed it? We should definitely focused blow then.

>>3108758
> Go for a round 1 alpha strike in this coming queue
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By the way, anons, it might be prudent to let her move some of our dice into Strike and then keep them there, depleting her Comp with PP instead. This will prevent her from unbreaking herself with GSD.
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And now I'm going to sleep. I believe in you, anons.
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>>3108786
>By the way, anons, it might be prudent to let her move some of our dice into Strike and then keep them there, depleting her Comp with PP instead. This will prevent her from unbreaking herself with GSD.
True. We can still kill off her last d4 and her d10 if we can keep her from GSDing.
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Guys she generates plenty of tech dice. PP is not going to touch her composure barring absurd luck.
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>>3108807

CC is her sole method of generating tech dice, unless she's got a new move up her sleeve.
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>>3108812
And she uses it frequently enough that PP getting her composure is unlikely. Especially when we get to her d10, she'll be ready. Unless we use zero tricks until then to not let her know we have it.
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>>3108807
It doesn't need absurd luck, all it needs is for us to wait until she uses FS and then capitalize on it. If we've done the Alpha Strike, we can use one weak FB and then immediately two Circles if we think she'll proc only one CC.

A FB > d4, Circle Guardx2 queue can knock out the d10 if there's up to one tech die in the queue. That's more likely if we can FB on the turn she CCs on.

>>3108817
>Unless we use zero tricks until then to not let her know we have it.
That is best practice, yes. Won't be awful if we blow it and she figures it out, since then she'll be a bit more predictable, but yeah. Better to keep our secret weapon secret.
I'm looking forward to hearing what she'll have to say about us taking even more of her moveset.
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>>3108721
Elegance Flourish
Because she will expect us to expect her to UD
Elegance Trick
Because she will expect us to expect her to CC
Skin Unthorned
Because she's going to FS us here.
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>>3108922
SU is garbage without the complementary rose skills though. Might as well circle guard.
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>>3108936
circle guard would proc our pp first.

Otherwise I would do it.
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>>3108944
>Because she's going to FS us here.
Good call.
>>3108922
>Because she's going to FS us here.
Also a good call. However, by that time she'll have a d6, which has a 1/2 chance of killing all your shiny new d4s.
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>>3108950
True, but then we can elegance with d6s which is more pressure by far, alternative is smacking her with a FB simultaneously.
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>>3108955
No, FS isn't so OP it nukes dice in all pools. It'll kill the techniques and not touch the comps.
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>>3108936
You're expelled.
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>>3108967
It'll kill the strike d3 yeah

It's maybe kill the d3 in tech, won't even TOUCH the d4s unless she rolls godly though.
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>>3108973
You aren't even a teacher, and you certainly lack the qualifications. Git gud.

>>3108979
You make a good point. I want to amend my action order now.

>Elegance: Flourish
>Circle Guard
>Elegance: Trick
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>>3108990
>Git gud
This is ironic coming from you.
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>>3109007
? I'm the best.
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If she thinks we are building CCs to smash her and not attacking in the first couple of rounds, she'd be either spamming CGs or CC CC FS. In either of those cases, it would be better to Rattle her in the first round.

>>3108990
Please don't go for Circle Guard. We're hiding our PP capabilities.
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>>3109016
People are so obsessed with this plan for no reason. It's unnecessary and convoluted when we can just blitz her and win.
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>>3108967
>>3108955
I'm not at all against letting her smack us with a FS this round, it'd be good for us, but probably not a good idea to let her hit us with a full d4, d6, d8.

If you're going for building dice and you expect her to hit us with a FS at the end of the queue, it might be better to go for CCs instead so we can gen a d8 next time we want one. A d6 will be enough to protect our higher Comp dice from a full d4, d6, d8 FS.

I'd like to do
>Elegance : Trick
because she's got to be a little worried about her d4s
>Focused Blow
It'll rattle her, and even if she does GSD and then UD, we'll get 1d4+3d3 which should still be enough to break a d4. If she does the opposite, UD and then GSD, we'd have a 1d3 taken away by GSD and 1d3+3d4 left in Tech, which is a good amount of dice to have at the end of a round. (Note, Tricks activate before Flourishes.)
And then
>CC,
which will help defend us against a FS if she throws one (d4, d6 only because the d8 gets interrupted by Rattle) and start boosting our CCs.


>>3109039
It's good to have a plan B in case she gets annoying with CG and FS.
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>>3108704
>>3108706
Ignore this
>>3108922
>Elegance Flourish
>Elegance Trick
>Focused blow.
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gib link to combat system plis
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>>3109060
https://pastebin.com/6eTp737y
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>>3109049
Going to support this for the time being
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>>3109053
Interesting. What happens if we each throw our Strikes at the same time, Flashing Steel vs Focused Blow?
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>>3109049
The annoying thing about a FB there is that we're one dice away from probably breaking her d10 too
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>>3109070
That is true, but I don't think we're likely to get that one die. If we give her the chance she'll break it one way or another.
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>>3109053
>>3108706

I believe she will once again go for a CC so
>>Elegance Flourish

The next one is a bit harder. Is she really going to go for underhanded deflection so early?
>>Elegance Trick

But I agree that hitting her is best. let's rattle her. I'm sure she might try to crushgrip us but it'll only affect our d4. It's not a problem
But what if she tries flashing steel since she thinks we'll try to strike? We'll have to see how it plays out
>>Focused blow.
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>>3109094
I think that trick prediction is a miss. It'll ruin her flashing steel by putting a die in our strike pool thanks to her passive, so she won't do it. It's why I switched to >>3108990
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Good night everyone.

To people putting FB on their third round, CC CC FS has a 1/3 likelihood of rolling 12 or higher. She also has a Crushing Grip. If our FB is higher than 10, we can get a draw.
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>>3109114
In case I wasn't clear enough, that means that if /Gloriana/ does CC CC FS,and we do E E FB she has a 1/3 chance of destroying all our Comp dice.
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>>3108706
>>3109094
Then I change my vote to this

>>Elegance Flourish

If she is doing a trick, then I want to take advantage and raise our dice
>>Counting Coup
>>Focused blow.
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>>3109124
Wait, if underhanded deflections lowers all dice, does this mean we lose all our d4s? I can't remember
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>>3109129
Ah, now I remember, it makes them all d3s. Right, I'm tired. got back from work
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>>3109129
It means that all dice in Tech become one side lower. 4d4 becomes 4d3 for instance.

>>3109114
>To people putting FB on their third round, CC CC FS has a 1/3 likelihood of rolling 12 or higher. She also has a Crushing Grip. If our FB is higher than 10, we can get a draw.
My plan >>3109049 leaves it as a 4% chance Gloriana destroys all our Comp dice if she does CC CC FS instead of 1/3.
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>>3109139
But CC is a flourish... shouldn't we be using elegance flourish instead of trick?
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>>3109049
>which will help defend us against a FS if she throws one (d4, d6 only because the d8 gets interrupted by Rattle) and start boosting our CCs.
Even though I got this wrong. A CC will not get interrupted by a Strike Rattle. It will be d4 d6 d8 only defended by a d4 in Tech, 4% chance of getting a 12 or higher.
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>>3109150
Yes, if you think it's more likely that she'll CC instead of GSD or UD. I think the latter is more likely, even though I'm also preparing for being catastrophically wrong.
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>Elegance : Trick
>Focused Blow
>CC

vs
>>Elegance Flourish
>>Elegance Trick
>>Focused blow.

vs

>>Elegance Flourish
>>Counting Coup
>>Focused blow.

I think elegance flourish, Focused blow then are the best. It's the last one I'm worried about. Too bad we didn't have a trick to negate it if she does attach.
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>>3109157
GSD is pretty powerful, we cna't siphon tech into our strike pool for this entire round. But she's forced to take a stance right after in the same action
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>>3109158
>Too bad we didn't have a trick to negate it if she does attach.
Fukkin' ouch, lol. Circle Guard would actually be a good move to use, but then we'd have to keep spamming it, because it takes from the bottom and her CG will be genning high dice that we won't be able to take /and/ defend from at the same time.
I'm voting to put up a defensive d4 because it should be enough to keep us from dying, and having only high Comp dice will allow us to start spamming dangerous Tech dice, with Elegance, which will also defend us against PP.
>>3109171
It's a really good move, yeah.
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>>3109171
So the qestions is this
will she GSD to gain composure or will she CC to gain tech?
2nd action, she has to stance if she does gsd or if she didn't gsd, it's a different action. Possible striking or CC again.
3rd action is hard to predict. A strike most likely.
Start voting people. All seem pretty likely
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>>3109179
Nah. I'm going to watch this.
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>>3109179
>2nd action, she has to stance if she does gsd or if she didn't gsd, it's a different action
No, GSD puts up a stance on the same round.
Round 1: GSD -> Rookie Stance
Round 2: Whatever
Round 3: Whatever

>>3109183
Be nice to the newfriend.
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>>3109192
>Be nice to the newfriend.
Everyone should know how to beat Gloriana. You know all her moves and she gave up because you figured out how to always beat her (and it was taking too long for Ouro).

You just have to apply that.
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>inb4 someone does a full game-theoretic analysis of the dueling system and develops an algorithm to find the optimal queue before we figure out how to play well
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>>3108706
So umm, is rattling her so completely vital when we could just charge up to win? Come on, we could just:

>Skin Unthorned
>CC
>CC

The worst that could happen is that she uses Crushing Grip, very bad efficiency for her since it'll only remove a d4 or d6. Any PPs would still keep us at 3d4+1d6.
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>>3109183
Oh thank god, we might win quickly.
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>>3109205
You are correct.
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Well, we need a consensus soon.
It's seems we're all over the place. All choices presented so far have their logic. We need to be forthright and choose one of them
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The anon with the 4% chance here >>3109049
is convincing me.
I am thinking of throwing my vote here rather than my choice then>>3108706

Majority of 2 for this one.
All the others are 1 (and my personal one at 0)
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>>3109219
Just saying, >>3109205 has best chances of survival and charging up. I had just preferred to get rid of as many of Gloriana's d4s as possible as quickly as possible.
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>>3109230
>charging up
uh, assuming you don't count having high dice in Comp to Elegance with as charging up.
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>>3109230
I favor a more aggressive approach myself when I fight. I find sofia's action to be weirdly passive for a fencer but the mechanics of the games rewards the build up since it's not real life
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>>3109239
With that, I have to go to bed. Barely even managed to participate. Good luck eveyrone
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>>3109239
Yeah that's a good mindset to have. Blow your load early cause you like aggressive styles even when you agree Sofia needs to have a bit of build up.

I'm sure you'll rack up the wins like that.
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>>3109247
It's a question of balance. If we take too long to attack, we lose as we obsessively chase high dice. Like in our match with Catalina.
Too quickly, we get punished as well.
I do not think Gloriana is going to attack at this moment. I think it's a good opportunity to reduce her composure. If our prediction is wrong, we'll take quite a setback.
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>>3109312
She cant actually harm our charging up at the moment. She NEEDS to CC to build up a flashing, and her d4s get ignored. We can either crush her big dice, or ignore them entirely if she uses PP, since whatever damage she deals with flashing is further reduced by 4 before it even affects tech
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>>3108922
>>3108950
Skin Unthorned is a stance, it procs slower than a strike, so it has to be set up BEFORE she FSes us.

>>3109094
> let's rattle her.
A strike in ther third turn of a queue CAN"T rattle. Because rattling only affects one queue.
She also won't allow us to just pump tech for three turns then strike, but I already said that.

>>3108905
>one weak FB and then immediately two Circles
Circle Guard requires having a tech die. We wouldn't have any after a FB
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>>3109383
>her d4s get ignored.
They don't. We haven't put up the stance yet.
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>>3109666
>Circle Guard requires having a tech die. We wouldn't have any after a FB
True. We'd have to use Crushing Grip with whatever dice Gloriana shuffles into our Strike pool to break her d4.
Something like Crushing Grip x2 Circle Guard might break the d4 in Comp, rattle, break an extra tech die and then take the d10.
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I don't even know where to begin on counting this vote.
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>>3109768
Working on it.
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>>3109205
>SU
>CC
>CC

>>3109124
>E:F
>CC
>FB

>>3109049
>E:T
>FB
>CC
>>3109068
>Support for now

>>3108990
>E:F
>Circle
>E:T

>>3108727
>FB
>SU
>CC

>>3108718
Needs to finalize vote.

>3109053
>E:F
>E:T
>FB

Hope I haven't missed anyone.
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>>3109757
In the context of what we were talking about, the stance would be up.
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>>3109797
Thank you! Alright, vote called in favour of E:t, FB, CC!
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>Elegance: Trick
>Focussed Blow
>Counting Coup

As you re-establish distance, you keep one eye on Gloriana at all times. You have a pretty good idea about what she’s going to do next and yes! There it is! She pulls her lowermost ribbon free of her vest and, not giving you any time to react, flicks it out right at your face!
The reach of the ribbon is far longer than that of the sabre and the metal wires weight it enough to give it a serious sting! It hits you in the neck and though it doesn’t draw blood, you involuntarily wince.

>Gloriana uses Underhanded Deflection!

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 2d3

But it’s also exactly what you were expecting! You slice the ribbon in half with your sabre before she can withdraw it and close in, ready to strike!

>ELEGANCE: Trick

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 2d3, 1d4

“It’s not like the outcome of this duel matters!,” Gloriana cries. “I’m already more than satisfied! Nothing that happens here will burn these memories away!”

You can’t let her get under your skin but she does anyway. All you can do is grit your teeth in the certainty that soon you’ll be the only one laughing.

>Gloriana’s ability, Professional Provocateur, activates!

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 1d3. 1d4
>Sofia’s Strike Pool: 1d3

>Elegance Prediction Bonus: 1d4

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 1d3, 2d4

As you close the distance, Gloriana reacts immediately by catching your sword on her own and lashing out with a kick! Having felt that iron-clad boot in your gut more than once, it’s enough to make you step to the side to avoid it.

>Gloriana uses Counting Coup!

>Gloriana’s Technique Pool: 1d4, 1d6

But just that alone isn’t enough to deter you from your fleche, stepping around and past Gloriana. As you pass her, you take a slash and then continue on, stepping out of range of her counter-attack!

Behind you, you hear Gloriana gasp. You turn and see…

>Roll 2d3 and 1d4 for Sofia’s damage!
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Oh whoops. That's 2d3 and 2d4. My bad.
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Rolled 2 (1d4)

>>3109856
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Rolled 4 (1d4)

>>3109856
The second one
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Come on, anons, roll a 4!
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>>3109856
Humiliation Strike!
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>>3109865
Roll, anon! We still have 2d3 to roll!
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Rolled 3, 3 = 6 (2d3)

>>3109856
let's keep this moving.
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Noted, writing.
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>>3109871
Holy crap. We've just broken her.
I love you anon.
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>>3109871
>>3109859
>>3109863
Hot damn, I wasn't expecting Rookie to be so late.

Cheers everyone, what kind of trophy are we taking?
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>>3109883
We still need to strike her again, anon. Even without dice.
She's going to GSD for sure next queue, and we'll have to break than d4 as well.
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>>3109886
Right, right.

We should save PP until we're sure it can be used to beat her in one queue. That means no Tricks in the next queue.

Either charge up to break d4 as usual, or spam crushing grip to break her tech die, then Circle Guard/Crushing Grip to win in a way she's doesn't know we can.
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>10 damage!

>FOCUSSED BLOW

Gloriana stumbles, her sabre knocked clean from her hand from the force of deflecting your strike! It skids across the ship’s planks as you turn to face her once again. The light around Gloriana is fading and as you watch, her hands shake.
“I...what?”

>10 damage destroys 4d4, 1d10!

>Gloriana’s Composure: BROKEN

“I’m not the Sofia you once fought, Gloriana.”

“What the fuck does that even mean?

Her usual smarmy attitude crumbling, she screams the last word and as she does, she reaches into a pocket and flicks out her hand!

>Gloriana uses Underhanded Deflection!

You angle your head just enough to let the thrown nail fly past your face. A cheap trick. But then again, that’s all Gloriana is.
“Weren’t you saying something about this duel not mattering? How do you feel about that now?”

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: Empty

“I-I...I mean..”
She lunges for her sword but you’re ready for her, scooping up the half of the sundered ribbon closest to you and whipping the sabre away! Her fingers just brush the handle as it slides away from her grasp and she falls on her face in an undignified heap.

>COUNTING COUP

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: 1d4

“It’s not fair!,” she bellows, panicking and scrabbling at the ground. “You’re just a doll! You were trying to fucking masturbate me just a few minutes ago!”

>Gloriana’s ability, Professional Provocateur, activates!

>Sofia’s Technique Pool: Empty

>Sofia’s Strike Pool: 1d4

"Fair point. Honestly Gloriana, you made a huge mistake ever letting me out. If you'd kept me tiny compared to you...you might have lasted more than a minute."
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>>3109891
>Duel Status: https://pastebin.com/eVXLFWb8

It's time to select a queue. Please choose three:

>Focussed Blow

>Counting Coup

>Crushing Grip

>Circle Guard

>Skin Unthorned

>Elegance
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>>3109893
We've won. GSD can't generate composure dice, because it's too busy destroying our strike pool. We don't even need to pull out PP.

>Crushing Grip
time to slap a bitch
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>>3109893
>Gloriana’s Technique Pool: 1d4, 1d6
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>>3109893
Nah, let's not celebrate too early. She might have some kind of an unpleasant surprise.

>Crushing Grip
>Skin Unthorned
>Counting Coup
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Congratulations, you're gonna choke a bitch.

The worst duelist in the city. Be proud and stand tall.

Lol
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Heck, might as well call the vote now and write.
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>>3109883
Probably a ribbon? A black one if possible.

On that note the only things she has worth taking are GSD and maybe Tits.


>>3109904
Given the trouble we had with her last time? This is Fucking great.
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>>3109920
I want her top ribbon right now. We didn't take it last time, it's ours now. Might change depending on what we get offered, but I'm not sure there's a better option for me.
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>Crushing Grip

You walk over to the fallen Gloriana and as you do so, you see her hand reach into her pocket once more. You duck to the side in response, slowing you just enough for her to suddenly rise into a crouch and then jump to her feet! Turning her back to you, she runs full-pelt for the ship’s railing!
“You think this is over? I don’t even need my sword anyway!”

>Gloriana uses Gain Some Distance!

She vaults the railing and nearly makes it over. You catch her leg at the last moment and she slams into the side, dangling over the side helplessly.
“Not so funny when it’s happening to you, huh?”

>The presence of dice in Sofia’s Strike Pool prevents GSD from regaining Composure dice. Because of this, no valid Stance can be chosen. Gain Some Distance cannot activate.

With that said, you toss her off the edge of the ship.

She falls through the shadowy edge of the bottle and hits the slightly darker shadow of the table, bouncing and rolling in a jumbled heap. A moment later and you follow after her, scrambling down the side of the ship and falling through the glass.

By the time you catch up with her, she’s pulled out a familiar looking dagger.
“Oh well!,” she cries out, her voice ragged. “I guess we have to cut this duel shor-”

The moment she tries to slice her leg open, you are there. You grab hold of her wrist and with a terrible pressure, wrench her fingers open. The knife clatters onto the table unbloodied.
“Fuck off! Not this time!”
You push her away and knock her to her knees in front of you. You raise your sabre high...and then sheathe it.

And just as she looks up in bemused hope, you punch her in the face hard enough to break her nose. Blood splatters across the tabletop, spraying nearly a full inch. She slumps to the ground but you grab her by the vest and hold her in her pose, a whining sobbing mess.
“You’re really not used to losing on someone else’s terms, huh? Uh, don’t worry. The nose will be better outside the Wake!”
You don’t really want to feel bad for her but...

And as the Wake crumbles around the two of you, you take your prize.


>Another lock of her hair. This time, part she hasn’t dyed.

>Pull a ribbon free from her vest.

>The dagger you knocked from her hand.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3109922
>Ribbon

So I’m assuming GSD. Or are we going for tits?

Also now we’re stuck until the investigation happens.
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>>3109922
>Pull a ribbon free from her vest.
The top one. It's ours.
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>>3109922
>The dagger you knocked from her hand.
So Ouro can't turn taking the ribbon into something weirdly sexual.

Also the dagger is symbolic as the instrument of Gloriana's "victories".
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>>3109922
Also no "buts". I don't feel bad for her.
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>>3109928
Same. She was doing this for lulz and fun. She needed a swift smack long before this.


Only reason I chose ribbon it was easier to accessorize with.
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Time to console Gloriana!
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GSD is good if the opponent is piling up dice in the Strike Pool, but I also want Flashing Steel, which can break many many tech dice with minimal investment.

We can challenge her again immediately, incidentally, because honor is a street justice area. Being tied up and molested is an honor area.

Also, we should challenge Ennio to a thumb war or bottle-juggling contest. I want his perspective ability.
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>>3109922
>The dagger you knocked from her hand.
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>>3109930
Nah. She lost honestly and fairly. If she can’t handlr that we really don’t need to talk to her at all.

>>3109932
Let’s see how this shakes out first. But agreed. A lawyer might poof in immediately or we might be stuck here for a bit. Or they might try to kill us and we gotta attack on Titan a bitch.
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>>3109935
We lost honestly and fairly and were a sobbing mess that went to Adriana. I'm not a fan of perpetuating double standards.
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>>3109922
>>Pull a ribbon free from her vest.
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>>3109922
>Lick her
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>>3109937
And we utterly fucked over the guy who beat us. By that logic we should avoid her.

Also we were crying not because we lost but because of the scar and us failing a man whose life might as well hung in the balance. Gloriana does not care about her client, nor is she getting marked like we were.

It’s not a double standard no matter how you look at it. It’s false equivalency.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3109924
>>3109932
GSD is severely limited in that it 1) requires us to have a stance and 2) is unusable while this stance is actually up. With SU it can only be used once per fight. With UR it's good for annoying the opponent with unbreaking ourselves, but that would mean giving up two technique slots for a niche trick.

Flashing Steel is the only real choice, and it synergies nicely with PP we already have.
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>>3109937
We weren't an asshole to Terenzi (until we lost) though, so no double standards here.
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>Pull a ribbon free from her vest.

You already know what you want. You grab hold of her vest, wrapping your hand around the topmost ribbon, the one above her bust. It’s also the ribbon that she wrapped around you earlier. It’s the ribbon that she was dangling you helplessly from. You let her fall but hold tight to the ribbon, letting it unravel and remain in your hand as she collapses onto the tabletop.

The Wake fades and you open your eyes in the real world, standing atop the table next to the bottled ship in all your four-inch glory. Gloriana is lying at your feet. Her nose is bleeding and the top of her vest is slightly open but you aren’t paying attention to either. Mostly not anyway.


This ribbon that was the instrument of your tortue is now your tool. And it’s, uh, certainly been a learning experience. But what did you learn exactly?


>Gain Some Distance: [TRICK]Destroy all dice in your opponent’s Strike Pool. If it was already empty, generate a d4 in your Composure Pool and your opponent is prevented from siphoning dice to their Strike Pool this round. You must then activate a valid Stance in this same action. You cannot use this Technique if you already have a Stance active.

>Flashing Steel: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. Damage from this Technique is dealt first to your opponent’s Strike Pool, treating the dice within as if they were Composure dice for the purposes of destruction. The difference between the highest dice value in the Strike Pool and the damage rolled is then dealt to the Technique Pool in the same fashion. And if the damage continues to overflow, the remainder is inflicted upon the Composure Pool in the same way.

>A non-duel based Ability (New selection)
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>>3109950
>A non-duel based Ability (New selection)
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>>3109950
>Flashing Steel
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>>3109948
GSD also combos very well with Brute Strike. Gain d4, attack with d4, repeat.
But yeah, I still want >Flashing Steel.
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>>3109950
>Flashing Steel: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. Damage from this Technique is dealt first to your opponent’s Strike Pool, treating the dice within as if they were Composure dice for the purposes of destruction. The difference between the highest dice value in the Strike Pool and the damage rolled is then dealt to the Technique Pool in the same fashion. And if the damage continues to overflow, the remainder is inflicted upon the Composure Pool in the same way.
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>>3109955
Attacking with 1d4 is basically useless though
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>>3109950
>>Flashing Steel

I hope you are all proud
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>>3109966
not sure if serious or being sarcastic. Regardless, yeah, kinda.

We coulda planned it better, but we anticipated her pretty well. On that count I am proud of anons.

We got unreasonably lucky on this though.
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>>3109969
Not that unreasonably, we had a 40.28% probability of what happened.
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>>3109970
Fair point. just used to having our dice whiff more often than not.
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>>3109963
You're not wrong. Unless we find something that attacking at all triggers. Or maybe we have dice stuck in Strike that we want to add extra oomph to.
It shouldn't be too hard to find something that Brute Strike d4 combos well with...

>>3109969
I suppose the worst that could have happened would have been if she had started only building dice and kept 1d4 1d6 1d8 at the end of the queue (but not 1d10 because rattle)
but that's not her personality. She'd rather get in our way than build dice herself. Even if she had, we had enough ways to protect our last Comp dice.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3109974
>You're not wrong. Unless we find something that attacking at all triggers. Or maybe we have dice stuck in Strike that we want to add extra oomph to.
>It shouldn't be too hard to find something that Brute Strike d4 combos well with...

We can do a fwe Brute Strikes as it is. Should be enough for any niche applications. What you propose is infinite d4 Brute strikes, and I can't even begin to imagine why we might want that.
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>>3109978
>>3109974
the only combo I can see so far is Size Difference. It's not a great combo either, since GSD only breaks strike OR provides d4 composure, not both.
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I'm glad to see we won. We've all improved in the reasoning out our attacks.
And really lucky dice roll too. I thought we'd have to go onto the next round of building up.
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>Flashing Steel: [STRIKE]Siphon all dice from your Technique Pool to your Strike Pool. Roll all dice in your Strike Pool to inflict damage. Damage from this Technique is dealt first to your opponent’s Strike Pool, treating the dice within as if they were Composure dice for the purposes of destruction. The difference between the highest dice value in the Strike Pool and the damage rolled is then dealt to the Technique Pool in the same fashion. And if the damage continues to overflow, the remainder is inflicted upon the Composure Pool in the same way.

You roll up the weighted ribbon and stash it in your handbag, basking in your triumph as you do so. It feels great! For some reason you’ve been feeling a little bereft of triumph lately but you played Gloriana as if she was in the palm of your hand! You know, instead of the other way around which is what literally happened.

“Fuck!,” a voice booms loud enough to make you cringe. It’s Donatella, the woman in black. You haven’t had the opportunity to get a look at her much but from the scattered impression you can get from your perspective, she’s all sleek lines and jagged points. And she’s looming over the table like an angry god. And not the small collectible gods either!
“Ennio! You promised this would work! Now they know! They’re on their way right now!”

As the two of them argue, their voices merging into an incoherent earthquake that you can’t follow, Gloriana stirs.
“Why?”

“Eh? What do you mean, why?”

“This isn’t how it’s supposed to go! You’re such a cool magic girl, Sophie! But…but! I lost! I always lose! So why does it feel so shitty?”

“What’s the matter? Has something finally gotten under your skin? Well that’s how you make everyone else feel all the time, Gloriana! It’s n-”

Your lecture is cut short by Gloriana going from kneeling at your feet to kneeling far above you, her bent legs on either side of you. Oh. Even though she didn’t win, you guess Ennio undid his bottling of her anyway? Fuck.

“Huh?”
Gloriana sits up. She probably looks pretty odd, on her knees on top of a table but to you she is a vision of destruction. If she even so much as slumps back down she’ll crush you! You start to run. Gloriana starts to laugh.

You don’t get far before her arm snakes out, crossing a length of tabletop far longer than you can run and slamming you to the ground! Your sword is shook free and clutched helplessly by fingers the same size as you, Gloriana lifts you higher and higher and then...sets you down back on the tabletop.
You turn around as she sits back down, shaking the table enough to knock you to your knees. She’s just sitting there, staring at you with dull eyes.
“Actually never mind,” she mumbles, still more than loud enough for you to hear. “I’m not feeling it anymore. This sucks.”

You retrieve your sword and as you do so, Ennio and Donatella cast their shadows over you.

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>>3109986

“I still don’t like having to do this,” she says.

“We can’t kill her or keep her forever,” Ennio replies. “We have to make her one of us. That’s the only way to stop her from telling.”

The table shakes as Gloriana idly shifts a leg.
“Uh...what are you guys talking about?”

“We don’t have time,” Donatella says. “Gloriana, you’ve been paid. Ennio’s even restored you, despite the fact that you didn’t win. We don’t have time for any more of your foolishness.”

“I’m not a fool. I just want to know what you guys are going to do to Sophie.”

“None of your business. Ennio, when are the lawyers going to arrive?”

“How should I know? They could already be on their way!”

“Then we might as well get this over with quickly a-what do you think you’re doing?”

This is in response to a scarred leg being slammed on the tabletop in front of you. You cower back as Gloriana, still sitting on the table, thumps her leg down right next to you, hiding you from their vision. You nearly fucking died!
“You know what? It IS my business! Because Sophie’s my doll and I’m not going to let you do anything to her!”
She stretches out a hand…


>Climb over the leg. Whatever these two are trying to do, you need Ennio to turn you back to normal.

>Jump into her hand. Something about Ennio and Donatella are freaking you out.

>While the giants fight, you will get the fuck out. It might be a bit hard while you’re on a table but that’s still better than trusting any of these people.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3109988
>Other (Specify)
Victoria's Secret Compartment underwear stash
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>>3109988
>While the giants fight, you will get the fuck out. It might be a bit hard while you’re on a table but that’s still better than trusting any of these people.
Twice we voted expecting Gloriana to have some human decency, and twice it bit us in the ass. No more.
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>>3109988
>>While the giants fight, you will get the fuck out. It might be a bit hard while you’re on a table but that’s still better than trusting any of these people.

Cui bono. Who benefits in this situation? Certainly not us. I can't trust a shady guy who has the nerves of a skittish cat. Seriously, this all started because he shrank us down instead of talking to us. Do we really want to ally with a guy like that.
And we can't trust Gloriana. She hasn't learned anything about decency. Maybe if we keep on being honorable and decent, some of that will rub off on her but I doubt it. She's been bullied all her life for being part lower realm through her mother's side and is paying the world back with interest in her mind. She can't even imagine not being an asshole coated asshole with asshole filling because she thinks everyone is.
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>>3109988
>While the giants fight, you will get the fuck out. It might be a bit hard while you’re on a table but that’s still better than trusting any of these people.
we need one of those keys that lets you use any door to go to the same place
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>>3109988
>>While the giants fight, you will get the fuck out. It might be a bit hard while you’re on a table but that’s still better than trusting any of these people
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>>3109988
>>Jump into her hand. Something about Ennio and Donatella are freaking you out.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3109999
So what is your opinion of the duel and being more tactical? I don't deny that we need to generate dice and maybe even large dice for damage since it can end a duel faster, it's just that if we have a d8, sometimes it's not worth trying to grab a d10 since our opponent must naturally be aware of the danger they are in.
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Aw damn. I wanted to win, but I didn't want to make best girl cry.
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>>3110017
Sophia didn't cry though.
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>>3110012
Depends on how the opponent mitigates dice generation, how much composure they have, and where the d10 is in the queue.

If you think they are going to try and stop it, you can predict around that

>>3110017
Adriana is probably crying a bit yeah. We need to head back like we promised and apologize.
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>>3110023
Take her out to the movies.
Or in this case it's probably the opera.
Then we run into Julie D'Aubigny, accidentally annoy her, and duel.
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>While the giants fight, you will get the fuck out. It might be a bit hard while you’re on a table but that’s still better than trusting any of these people.

You run away from the outstretched hand as Gloriana fumbles for you, jumping away from the leg and running towards the other edge of the table! You wouldn’t trust anyone in this room with anything and you’ve especially learned that lesson with Gloriana. The last time you trusted her, you’d wound up ...well, there. You wish that you hadn’t enjoyed that as much as you had.
“Hey, Sophie! Where are you going? I’m trying to help you!”

You pay her no heed, sprinting to the other edge as fast as you’re battered, bruised and exhausted body will carry you. It’s what, a foot away?That’s only a bit under twenty feet for you! But like it or not, you can’t run that distance in the time it takes a normal-sized person to take a few steps.
And sure enough, you skid to a halt as Ennio circles the table and reaches out for you!

But then the whole table clatters and you are thrown to the ground. Looking up, you see Gloriana stand up on the table and right after doing so, drives her metal-plate boot right into Ennio’s chest! There’s a sound like two worlds colliding and he goes flying back into the wall, smashing into a shelf and sending bottled models falling to the ground in a showerr of broken glass. The resulting cacophony might as well be the apocalypse to you but somehow over it all you can hear Gloriana’s voice.
“Run Sophie! Get out of here!”

She tenses up and forewarned, you bunker down and grab hold of the table’s surface as her leap sets the entire table wobbling. She crashes into Donatella and sends both of them to the floor and out of the view.

And as the room descends into titanomachy, you find the edge of the table looming before you. How the fuck are you going to get down?


>Climb down the leg like you did with the desk. It’ll be slow but safe.

>Jump for a seat and then climb down there!

>Just jump! You’re small, you’ll probably be fine!

>Other (Specify)
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>>3110033
>Just jump! You’re small, you’ll probably be fine!
they won't expect it!
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>>3110023
The curse won't let us apologize in words, so we should come up with something to express in actions.

>>3110033
>Jump for a seat and then climb down there!

Gloriana's apparent 180 degree turn just looks like insane anime logic. I don't believe in it.
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>>3110033
>>Just jump! You’re small, you’ll probably be fine!
Our terminal velocity should be pretty harmless at this size.
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>>3110038
I wonder, if this is all in our head. We believe we are tiny, therefore we are.

>Just jump! You’re small, you’ll probably be fine!
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>>3110033
>Jump for a seat and then climb down there!
Let's not break our legs while we can.
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>>3110040
Unique thing about Adriana is that she can understand Sophia via mind magic.

So even if we stumble via the curse she'll still get it.
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>>3110033
>Just jump! You’re small, you’ll probably be fine!
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>>3110046
Too much understanding and it's Adriana No 10 welcomed into the world.
We'll have to find a way to avoid that for a longer term relationship.
Also, I think Sofia is so addicted to finally finding someone who can understand her, she's scared out of her mind. Because she's well aware that she's not the best sort of person out there.
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>>3110049
I've thought about that and maybe since lawyer bullshit got Adriana in her mess maybe it can get her out of it. She does have a favor from our Godmother.

>Intimacy license where no ego death can happen via love
Oi you got a license to fuck?
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>>3110033
>Change your perspective. You are NOT tiny. you’re an average sized female and fuck Enuo for trying to make you belive and act otherwise.
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>>3110049
Poor Adriana.
Though I don't consider her a waifu candidate, it's still sad that she has no romantic perspectives with anyone ever.
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>>3110033
>Jump for a seat and then climb down there!

>>3110040
You need to calm this hateboner. Who hurt you anon
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>>3110068
I don't see how you can't. She's one of the best people for Sofia considering her abilities and common ground.

Just gotta get past the lethal part of it.
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>>3110064
>seconding
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>>3110081
My secret is I hate yuri.
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>>3110087
You know I'm not usually a fan too, but I think I'm making an exception for this quest.

I think it helps me that it's not the players forcibly trying make friends that happen to girls be gay for each other. Sofia was bi as fuck from the start via Ouro's writing and hasn't been shy thinking how attractive everyone is.
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My bad for this vote going on so long, I was using the auto-update and not manually refreshing so I didn't see that one of the votes had been deleted, leading me to count it as a tie. But it's not!

Vote is called, writing.
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>>3110098
Maccio is still best husbando.
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>>3110103
You're not wrong.
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>>3110103
I agree but I can see why Adriana might be a good relationship with Sophia too.
Sabino is our girly dweebish little brother to bully and coddle (though we try not to do it too much)
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>>3110081
It may be impossible though, there don't seem to be many ways around curses in the city. Even the (semi?)joking option of using drunken master
didn't solve the problem, it just put Adrianna on the same level as anyone else.

>>3110103
I want to go with Maccio just because I want to get involved with whatever family intrigue he's involved in
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>>3110108
>It may be impossible though,
I think the existence of the drunken master makes it so it's definitely possible. You just gotta spend time and effort looking for it. Specially with lawyer bullshit.

Anything is possible with lawyer bullshit in this city.
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>>3110106
By the way, don't you think Sabino's situation is pretty fucked up?
The worst thing is I don't even know how we could help him.
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>>3110111
You have to convince him to help himself.
It's going to go on unless he stands up for himself. Nothing we can do personally can materially change situation, we can help but he has to do the heavy lifting.
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>>3110111
It's pretty fucked up and yeah I'm not sure how we could help him without ruining his Rose Ring position which he seems to place higher than his own well being.
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>>3110102
I would like to clarify one question:
If Flashing Steel meets Focused Blow in the same turn, would FS destroy the strike dice before FB can use them? They both roll damage in the second sentence.
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>>3110110
It may not be possible to have it both ways I mean. Like we could prevent her from killing us but we'd lose the mind reading. Remember what our Godmother said, everything has a price, you can't just make everyone's life perfect with a stroke of the pen.
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>>3110111
We can be his friend and encourage him to be more assertive.
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>>3110121
Hm, Adriana will never mind read ever again, therefore never harm another living person.
In exchange her love for Sophia is gone forever. The best they can do is friends.

Sounds right up the alley of this fae city. Poor Vespa
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>>3110121
Oh for sure, that'll probably happen but I like to think that their previous understanding can still be enough for them to both be happy together.
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>>3110126
You're too optimistic. I feel what would be more in line with the setting is Adriana losing the ability to read her own mind and turning into 9 different mentally deficient people.
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One of these days there will be a quest with a female MC that isn't gay or bi-polygamous

The fact that the Yuri object of obsession can kill us by thinking too much don't even give them pause.

Shipping is cancer
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>>3110140
There have been such quests, actually.
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>>3110140
Asking for snow in august level wishful thinking. There have been threads but they're pretty rare.
And don't worry, Maccio is ahead by a country mile.
But I hope that we can find a way to get Adriana some way to be friends with people without accidentally killing them.
We basically trusted her and didn't freak out too much about her secret. We must be the first one, that's why she's in love.
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>>3110146
Her master was the first one (though he did forbid her from reading his mind)
I even thought she was in love with him, but apparently not.
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>>3110147
I figure because he was using her for his purposes. It wasn't altruistic.
Whereas Sophia has been miles ahead in that regards. We didn't demand her to serve as anything to our advantage.
Even our foisting of the kid was dependent on if she wanted to do it and a payment from a lawyer.
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>>3110147
Her master was also fucking another guy on the reg, something she would have known about.
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>>3110153
And there we go. Did not see that coming, I figure he had a mistress, but another guy. Incompatible orientation.
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>>3110154
Uh, that was pretty openly revealed in the thread.
Incompatible orientation is also not an obstacle to falling in love, just in being loved in return.
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>>3110155
Missed out on that thread, didn't read it.
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>>3110154
Do you not pay attention to anything or do the Yuri goggles prevent you from seeing?
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>>3110159
I skipped the entirety of the that thread because it was a mystery and I wasn't too interested in it. By the time I came to read it, it was over.
I skipped down to the duel to see the end results and then the ending.
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>>3110170
>Skipping
YOU ARE SCUM
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>Just jump! You’re small, you’ll probably be fine!

Fuck it, you don’t have that much time! You don’t even know why Gloriana is doing this so are you really going to bet on it lasting for long? Or that she can hold up two people at once? So with that in mind you close your eyes and take a running leap.

You hit the ground hard and roll, pain shooting up through your body from half a dozen points as you flop onto a floorboard! But it’s nowhere near as bad as a drop like that should be. Nothing’s broken, you aren’t bleeding. It just hurts.
But now you’re on the floor and there’s not a single more dangerous place to be. You don’t just have to worry about someone grabbing you now. You could just be stepped on.

You run for the front door, stepping around bottles and broken models, shards of shattered glass lying like icebergs amidst the unfathomably huge room. The floor shakes with the struggle of the giants and from the far distance of the other side of the room you hear Gloriana shout.
“Oh shit! My sword’s still in the bottle!”

You’d wager that she’d gone to draw on the other two, only to remember that she’d left her sword behind during the duel. It’d still be tiny too!

You just keep on running, passing the stair and keeping a lookout for any stomping feet. Not that there’s anyone near you. The giants are all off in the distance, obscured by the table. And running on the floorboards is easy compared to the upstairs carpet! All you have to worry about is not putting your foot into a crack and tripping.

And just like that, the front door looms ahead of you. It’s a massive slab of wood but you should be able to squeeze through the crack beneath it! And from this angle, you can actually see around the table. Donatella is on the ground and bleeding heavily as Gloriana puts the boot in. But sneaking up behind her is Ennio, empty bottle in hand…

You don’t see if Gloriana notices him in time or not though because by that point you’re already crawling beneath the door. You can’t warn her even if you wanted to, it’s not like she’d hear you! And so you’re out...out and standing atop the landing of a set of stairs down to the canal.
Fuck! You forgot this place had stairs!

And while you’re considering either climbing down the stairs or just trying to jump straight into the canal, an impact sets the ground beneath you to shaking. And then another and another. And it’s coming close. You can’t see them because you’re so small that you can’t even see below a step unless you’re at the edge...but someone is undoubtedly walking up the stairs towards you right now.

Wouldn’t that be the worst? Escaping after all that..and getting stomped on by some bystander. You shudder. What should you do? You don’t even know who this person might be!

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>>3110173

>You need to get their attention! Stay on the stairs.

>Hide and hope they don’t stand on you.

>Jump off the stairs! You’ll probably be fine.

>Retreat back under the door!

>Other (Specify)
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>>3110175
>Run for the sides
We should be able to hide beside a door frame or something, people don't purposely step near those
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>>3110173
>>Retreat back under the door!
Man, talk about being between a rock and a hard place.
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>>3110175
>Retreat back under the door!

Maybe we can still fool Ennio's perspective and return to normal size. Plus we can't just abandon best girl.
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>>3110171
Coincidentally, I believe it is in that mystery arc thread that someone used 'fae' for the first time. A more apt word has never been quoted
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>>3110175
>Retreat back under the door!
>Dash to the side afterwards so we don't get hit by the door opening or the person coming up.
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I'm going to sleep. Vote will remain open until I return. Goodnight!
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>>3110181
I think they're still human, it's just that being in such close proximity to the noumenon allows them to exist in a more essential way
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>>3110175
>Run for the sides
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How much do you wanna fuckin' bet it's Terenzi?
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>>3110559
A lawyer should arrive to investigate, and Terenzi isn't one.
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I'm awake! Vote called and writing.
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>>3110569
Why would a lawyer be arriving this soon? It's probably just a rando and the conspirators are overly paranoid.
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We need to go all Mission Impossible and return the favor by saving a bottled Gloriana while this extra guy distracts
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You know what I don't get? Why they unshrank Gloriana and not us. Both of us tried to screw them over, and it's not as if Gloriana gives off the impression of being particularly trustworthy.
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>>3110710
Part of the deal. She made them promise to make her big again after our duel
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>>3110712
>Part of the deal. She made them promise to make her big again after our duel
Nah, that's only if she won. She lost, humiliatingly.
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>>3110726
Didn't have any mention of victory in it

“The other term is that the challenged party has to return me to my appropriate size after the duel. Understood?”
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>Retreat back under the door!

No, you have no particular desire to be discovered, stood upon or prodded by anyone particularly new. You turn and run back in the direction you came, squeezing under the door just in time. The moment you get through the door back into the kitchen, you duck down once more. If the visitor is coming in, they’ll throw open the door so you need to make sure it doesn’t clip you or crush you when it swings open.

That doesn’t happen. Instead the person steps into the room without opening the door at all. You don’t get to see them or who they are because you are immediately thrown into darkness as they stand right over you. A long skirt that nearly reaches all the way to the ground surrounds you and blinds you, leaving you trapped in the dark. There’s a very faint light leaking in from under the hem, just enough for you to realize your predicament. And just enough for you to see the massive, shapely legs that stand on either side of you. You definitely don’t consider looking up.

The sound of fighting has stopped. Above you, a deep voice can be heard. The tone is a little familiar but it’s hard to tell because the diction has that precise, alien quality of a lawyer.
“Hello! I’m here as a member of a team to investigate a contract, as per the terms of a duel. It shouldn’t take too long, I’ll just need to examine your financial records. And furthermore, can you two direct me to FiFi? She’s the one who called me in!”

You spare another glance at the closest leg. Oh no. Oh no. Why is everything like this happening to you?

>It's Giuseppina! You're saved! Get her attention as quickly as possible.

>It's Giuseppina! You're fucked! Run back out under the door without her noticing you.

>Try to stay hidden beneath her skirt by keeping pace with her. You'll get her attention after you've escaped these weirdos.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3110734
>>Other (Specify)
Consider what gods we've offended lately. You're pretty sure you've only bought religions that aren't too overly offended by you.
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They restored Gloriana so she could leave. They say as much.
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>>3110734
>It's Giuseppina! You're saved! Get her attention as quickly as possible.
>It's Giuseppina! You're fucked! Run back out under the door without her noticing you.
Stop bullying us, Ouro!
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>>3110734
I'm not sure how to process this information
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>>3110734
How many pairs of legs are we seeing. 4 or 3?
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>>3110765
Just one pair. You're trapped under her skirt so if there are more, you wouldn't see them.
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>>3110772
... That is somehow not very comforting at all.
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>>3110734
>Try to stay hidden beneath her skirt by keeping pace with her. You'll get her attention after you've escaped these weirdos.

Get Gloriana's attention. Surely even the hater anons must understand that while she likes to tease and bully, she won't truly hurt us. Meanwhile our godmother will forget about us and end up dropping or killing us by accident.
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>>3110734
>>3110782
Supporting.
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I really don't know how to vote here. Our main goal should be being returned to normal size.

But Giu is one of the most careless people in the world with her power. But she can also force Ennio to turn us back probably.
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>>3110786
Roll a dice
Whatever happens happens
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>>3110734
>>It's Giuseppina! You're fucked! Run back out under the door without her noticing you.

She'd absentmindedly feed us to her rats or something
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Alright, I've chosen.
>>3110734
>Consider what gods we've offended lately. You're pretty sure you've only bought religions that aren't too overly offended by you.
>It's Giuseppina! You're saved! Get her attention as quickly as possible.
We'll be able to talk to everyone safely, talk her down from turning people into trees, get to grab Ennio's ability before he gets turned into something unfortunate.
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>>3110734
>Try to stay hidden beneath her skirt by keeping pace with her.
>Try to find out Gloriana's status
>Get Ennio's attention and tell him Giu is our godmother and it is really, really, REALLY in his best interest to return us to normal along with Gloriana.
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Vote called, writing.
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>Stay hidden.

Giuseppina could rescue you! At first that thought makes you happy but a moment later, a chill runs down your spine. Giuseppina could rescue you. Do you really want to wind up like the bartender? Oh, she wouldn’t turn you into anything but there’s no denying that she’s careless. You’d trust her to have good intentions at least, she’s earned that much. But there’s no fucking way you’d trust her to execute those good intentions, not with her track record. If there’s a type of person you absolutely need less of right now, it’s someone who enjoys playing with real people.

So you’ll just stay here, hidden underneath her long skirt. Nobody will see you and you can listen in, maybe figure out how the fight ended. Maybe you can even defuse the situation. Not because you’d care if Ennio got turned into a tree, not really. But you do care about getting his talent. You want to be skilled at what he’s skilled at!
So you run forward as Giuseppina takes a step, doing your best to stay beneath her. You quickly figure out the flaws to this plan however. There are two fairly significant ones. One: You can’t run faster than Giuseppina can walk. Two: You don’t particularly want to be crushed to death by your godmother taking a weird step.

So instead you wait for her foot to descend and grab hold of her shoe, scrambling on top of it as she stands there for a moment. With this, you just need to hold on and you can stay hidden and be moved!
“I see I’m interrupting something. Are you Donatella Bilotti?”

“Yes.”
She sounds hesitant and rightly so.

“Are you aware that some people are very interested in the recent use of your coin? I don’t get it myself but it’s true!”
You just need to wait until she walks a little closer. Maybe then you can scoot out and get Ennio’s attention, convince him to end this peacefully. Or otherwise escape. You’re not really sure what you want to do. But as you think, Giuseppina keeps talking.
“I shouldn’t really be a part of this investigation but oh! Dear old Juicy just wanted to check in on her goddaughter. Who is conspicuously absent incidentally. I don’t have the clearance to know anything about this but they let me come along so that I can confirm the situation and distract you.”

And just as she finishes speaking, the whole house shakes and you hear the sound of tearing wood, a groan that eclipses all other sound. The floor tilts but Giuseppina’s feet stay level as the sound continues. And joining it are shouts and demands of a dozen different people rushing in, the floor pounding with footsteps.

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>>3110892
“Get down on your knees!”
This voice is wholly unfamiliar to you.
“You’re both under arrest for suspicion of undermining the rule of law! Additional charges pending but possibly including theft, fraud, fraud through impersonation, theft through mental influence, esoteric assault, kidnapping, identity destruction, theft of a body, theft of an identity…”
The list goes on but Giuseppina seems to be walking away. You cling to her shoe as best as you are able until it stomps down on the first stair. She’s wandering up towards the study! If you stay with her, she’s going to walk you upstairs!

“FiFi? Where are you, dearie? You haven’t had anything done to you, have you?”
Giuseppina sounds, well, loud. But also a little lost.


>Just stay where you are until this all blows over.

>Get her attention.

>Jump off before she can take you all the way up the stairs. You spent a lot of effort getting down these things!

>Other (Specify)
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>>3110895
Jesus Christ those charges.

>Let Giu go look for us up the stairs while we get the attention of this new person
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>>3110895
>Jump off before she can take you all the way up the stairs. You spent a lot of effort getting down these things!

Constables can sort us out, or force Ennio to do so.
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>>3110895
>>Jump off before she can take you all the way up the stairs. You spent a lot of effort getting down these things!

Wow, what the hell are those people been doing? All those charges
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Yo those charges are reminding me a lot of the guy we couldn't catch back in the Mirror Duel.
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>>3110914
Well they did say
>“We can’t kill her or keep her forever,” Ennio replies. “We have to make her one of us. That’s the only way to stop her from telling.”
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>>3110920
Yeah it's all coming together now. Fucking stumbled into the Handprint again.
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>>3110920
If we fuck over the Hand from the Mirrors it's because these fucktards were the weakest link int he conspiracy.
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>>3110895
>>Let Giu go look for us up the stairs while we get the attention of this new person.
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>>3110899
>>3110895
Also adding to this:

>Find Gloriana
I'm really worried now that we are pretty sure this is the Handprint...
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>>3110895
>>3110938
Supporting this.
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Vote called, writing.
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Maccio really needs to step up his game if he wants to compete with all the Best Girls, such as Sabino.
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>>3110978
Sabino is best pseudo little sister/brother. Not for lewds
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>>3110982
>Little sister/brother
>Not for lewds
Huh?
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>Jump off before she can take you all the way up the stairs. You spent a lot of effort getting down these things!
>Get the attention of this other person.

The charges have got you worrying and well, Giuseppina can feel lost for a little while. You need to find out exactly what’s happening here! You jump off her shoe and hit the stair, already climbing back down to the floor as her skirt passes over the top of you and strands you in the light once more.
Looking back and up, you gaze up at an enormous Giuseppina ascending the stairs and mentally congratulate yourself for not looking up your godmother’s skirt while you were down there. Your internal life is weird enough without adding anything like that to it.

Looking back on the room, it’s about as ruined as expected. One of the walls has been opened like a flower and the ruined workshop and kitchen are swarming with massive constables and lawyers. The one in the middle, a huge (to you) man wearing a pale pink coat over a pair of purple breeches. He’s got a scroll in one hand and is still reading from it.

“...and finally, a potential count of migrating to the City as a non-citizen from a foreign port without licensed permission to do so. The High Court has assumed your case. You have the right to a fair trial. You have the right to a lawyer to speak on your defence. You have a right to only receive punishment equal to your trespasses, once they are revealed. And depending on which of these charges are true, you have implicitly waived all of those rights. Now, be careful gentlemen, don’t touch them. We still don’t know how it spreads. Let the specialist do it, they can’t infest her.”

The door swings open behind him and two blonde women in black step in. They’re so big it takes you a moment to recognise both of them as Adriana. What is she doing here?

The pink lawyer keeps talking.
“Thank you for coming. Please confirm the presence within both and then detain each of them, Depending on the outcome of the trial, the High Court might also require your services later as a means of disposal.”

You nearly run over to Adriana, demanding to be seen, demanding to be held, to be picked up and clasped within her grasp...but a sudden twist of your stomach stops you. You remember this morning and you cannot approach her.
Instead you cower by the stairs and let both of her bodies swish past you without so much as looking down.

“There should also be two duellists somewhere,” the lawyer continues. “Yes, yes, I know. But we should probably make sure that they’re both alright.”
This is met with a chorus of faux jeers from the other lawyers and the constables.

‘Hey!,” you shout, slowly inching your way towards the lawyer who seems to be in charge. “I’m right here! Pick me up!”
They might not be able to make out your words but they should still hear a high-pitched squeak, right?

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>>3111088
“Hrm?”
The pink-cloaked lawyer looks down and when he sees you, shows very little surprise at your current state. Instead he just crouches down in front of you. He looks surprisingly young, though you suppose Giuseppina does too, with a bright and open face and just the hint of stubble. Now well and truly used to it, you let yourself go limp as he scoops you up in a hand. As he does so, he walks over into the kitchen, holding you away from the other investigators and giving you at least a little privacy.
“What’s happened to you?”

“I got bottled! What’s going on?”

“I know you’re involved but that’s classified….you’re Sofia Pseudonym, aren’t you?”


“Yes?”

“Nice to meet you, I’m Oronzo, Senior Associate. Giuseppina was very worried about you, you know.”

“I’ll make it up to her later.”

“And you were involved with the d’Zaffiro incident just a few days ago too, right? Oh dear, you are just a magnet for this thing. But it also means that I can tell you since you already know about it.”

And with that, all the pieces suddenly click into place.
“The Handprint? It’s the Handprint.”

“Yes. But please don’t tell your godmother, she’s not cleared to know about it. Barely anyone is.”

You think back to Ennio’s plan of making you somehow compliant and feel sick. They’d been planning to do it right in front of you, hadn’t they?
“Then this whole duel was…”
You trail off, remembering the files Eduardo had been collecting on them. A lot of the information on what he had terms ‘out of character incidents’ had been financial, tracing a web of strange and seemingly random transactions. The Handprint had been shuffling money around the city to support its various hosts and their endeavours.
“Donatella said she thought her finances were being watched. That was you, right? And this duel was all just a pretense for a Handprint-to-Handprint trade that wouldn’t be seen as suspicious. Ennio would just lose and be forced to give up the coin without being outed, huh? Fucking...fuck!”

“Astute,” Orenzo says. “We’ve spent the last few days tracing the Handprint’s web in the world of coin. The blasted thing seems to love trading with itsef but it didn’t take us long to identify Signorina Bilotti over there as one of the key figures in the web. To tell the truth, we didn’t even suspect this man.”

“So it’s really it? That body-jacker?”

“We don’t know what it is, where it came from, what it wants or how it’s doing it. It might not even be just one thing. It’s like...a collection of infestations. As far as Adriana can tell, the puppets don’t even notice that they're strung up.”

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>>3111090
“Adriana…”
Has she been working with the High Court to investigate this the whole time? It’d make sense, it’d only need one or two bodies at a time and she was the one who had all of Eduardo’s old files on the Handprint. And you remember something Donatella said earlier, something about seeing ‘that untouchable girl’.
“Is she immune?”

“Her condition makes her impossible to contaminate thus far. Anything that comes into direct contact with her ego just becomes a part of her. She’s your friend, yes?”

“...You could say that.”

“Sorry to be so overwhelming. How are you, anyway?”

“Bad! Can you put me back?”

He thinks for a moment.
“It works by perspective, right?”

“Right.”

“Then I’m afraid I can’t. But Giuseppina could easily. Strictly speaking, she doesn’t have a perspective. Do you want me to call for her?”


>”Yes please.”

>”Wait! C-can you take me over to Adriana first?”

>”Have you found the other duellist?”

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>>3111091
>”Have you found the other duellist?”
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>>3111091
>”Have you found the other duellist?”
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Sorry guys, I feel sick. I'll come back later. Vote will remain open until then.
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>>3111091
>>”Have you found the other duellist?”

Tell them she's in another bottle most likely
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>>3111091

>”Have you found the other duellist?”

We could take Glory home as OUR doll.
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>>3111091
>”Have you found the other duellist?”
>"Let me challenge Ennio to a game, I'll put myself back."
(And if I'm wrong, and we need an outside perspective, at least we'd have the skill.)
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>>3111104
Can't we just get a beer or something? After all this shit?
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>>3111108
>>3111091
I'll second the Ennio game thing. Force him to call a coin flip until we win or something.
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>>3111110
I think we'll win a thumb war.
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>>3111111
Fuck yeah, six digits.
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>>3111104
I'd rather just troll her lightly.
And then without extracting anything from her like a favor, return her to her size.
For a bully whose entire life has been all about bullying and getting bullied, that should right confuse the fuck out of her.
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>>3111091
>>”Have you found the other duellist?”
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>>3111114
I would like to spend time with Gloriana after making sure she's not infected. I imagine the day's been fairly large for her between unexpectedly running into Sofia again, the wiggling, getting her nose broken, and then being wrapped up in this handprint business. That's a lot to internalize and process, and frankly, I doubt Gloriana has much in way of a support group like we've made between Adriana, Maccio and Sabino. And Juicy, I suppose.

I imagine this desire is going to get hardlined against by people who uncompromisingly seem to just want her offscreen, but she put herself out there to protect us and I genuinely think part of her excitement over the doll thing was that she may have found someone - and an opportunity - where she could keep them around.

Bluntly, I want to befriend Gloriana. It seems like she needs one and, given the way her interests trend and what she's told us of her family, I suspect that she is severely lacking in people willing to do that.
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>>3111134
Agreed. Maybe we can get her to stop calling herself trash.

She's also one of the few people that can call out Sofia (in her own way) which is good to have around.
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>>3111091
>”Yes please.”
>”Have you found the other duellist?”
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>>3111114
>>3111134
>>3111141

It looks like I have to remind you guys of all the weird fetishes we can indulge in right now and only now. We at least have to lick her.
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>>3111141
I doubt that first thing. Ouro's mentioned she isn't cursed/blessed like Sofia is and that kind of self-worth and casual acceptance of derogation doesn't come just from shits and giggles. My first suspicion is honestly that she was so used to being looked down on and insulted that she embraced it as a shield and started using the identity to insulate herself.

Obviously not healthy, but also not something I suspect a quest like this will change. Particularly not in any appreciable measure of time. But whether it changes or not, putting forth the effort to BE that change in her life is something that I feel strongly about.
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>>3111147

This. We must lick her.
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>>3111147
I don't want weird fetishes. I want to make sure she didn't get puppeted man. I want to make sure, unconditionally that she made it out of this okay after trying to save us.
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>>3111147
Not gonna lie, I rubbed one out when she bullied us earlier.
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>>3111152
She also mentioned her mother a lot in our first duel. I think she must have loved her a lot and the pain it brought when people bullied her about it made her start appropriating a lot of the insults to convince herself they don't actually hurt
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>>3111163
It was really hot.

We've only got two people asking to challenge Ennio to a game, if more people don't jump on it, we'll lose our chance at his perspective.
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>>3111169
Her mother was an outsider if I recall and I have similar thoughts. Outsiders to the city don't seem to typically be accepted, and the casual disdain for fascina would have left her in a pretty bad place. The fact that she refers to the outside world as "Lower Realms" instead of "Lesser Realms" is pretty telling to me.
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>>3111174
I guess we'll have to update our vocabulary. It's lower realms from now on?
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>>3111172
I don't want to get close to the fucking esoteric abomination
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>>3111172
If the handprint jumps to us we're gonna lose a whole lot more than a chance at his perspective.
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>>3111172
I'd rather not take the risk
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>>3111178
I'd be fine with making that adjustment but I'm not sure Ouro would allow it. It'd be a small change for us and may mean more to her.

That said, I'm also not really sure when they would come up, so I don't think it's too big of a deal. Just a detail that would be nice.
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>>3111091
>If you'll let me challenge Ennio to enough coin flips, I can put myself back together.
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>>3111180
>>3111184
>>3111186
You're not wrong, but talking to them clearly isn't enough to let them jump to us. Otherwise they'd have done it by now. Challenge them to a word game, don't touch them. Easy enough.
Secondly, we'd be asking the police officer. If what we have in mind is dangerous, he'll tell us.
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>>3111194
They could have other restrictions we don't understand that kept them from making the leap, and I don't think the police fully understand her ability or would allow us to interact with it.
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>>3111203
>They could have other restrictions we don't understand that kept them from making the leap, and I don't think the police fully understand her ability or would allow us to interact with it.
We might have to go through Adriana, then. She's the mindreader with experience with these Handprints.
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>>3111214
What we need is for the lawyers to issue more certificates similar to the one Adriana has. Any handprints will just get eaten.
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Right best way to troll Gloriana
Demand 1: Tell her to stop calling herself trash
Demand 2: Tell her to stop insulting her own mother
Demand 3: Tell her to apologize to us.
Then let her back to her normal size
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>>3111270
>Demand 1: Tell her to stop calling herself trash
>Demand 2: Tell her to stop insulting her own mother
It doesn't work like that. That takes time and it may never happen.

>Demand 3: Tell her to apologize to us.
Why? She saved our ass at the end there. Wipe the slate clean.

You really want to troll her? Leer over her with the grin she gave us when she first found us then just wink and let her out unconditionally. Being nice would probably mess with her more than any demands.
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>>3111276
For irony, to make her think we're going to demand something harsh and ridiculous to payback all the humiliation she put us through.
She may have saved us but she did basically threatened to enslave us. Saving us may have been secondary to having us as a doll for her to play. I don't really put it past her.
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>>3111270
That's not trolling, that's being a dick. And an emotionally insensitive social failure on top of it.

>>3111276
>Leer over her with the grin she gave us when she first found us then just wink and let her out unconditionally.
Is better if we were intent on messing with her.
I'd suggest licking her back just to leave her soaked liked we were, but I fear it would be done erotically and thus miss the levity of retort I was aiming for.
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>>3111284
>Saving us may have been secondary to having us as a doll for her to play.

I really don't think so. Else she wouldn't have fought the other two off.
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>>3111285
We could just give her a peck on the cheek and thank her.
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>>3111284
She wanted to play with a doll sized us for a bit, not enslave us. Like >>3111289 said, she risked herself fighting off the other two, knowing Ennio had crazy perspective powers. And got shrunk, for us.
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There's no need to be leery about this. The Handprint couldn't get us by talking to us, or he would have done it to Gloriana or us by talking. They can't do it by proximity, because they would have gotten her or us when we were tiny or right next to them. They might be able to do it by touch, but it wouldn't be immediate touch, because otherwise Ennio wouldn't have to sneak up behind Gloriana with a bottle, he would be able to touch-boom-imprint.

They're not too dangerous to talk to or challenge to a word game, riddle game, coin toss, rock-paper-scissors match. Because if they were, we'd be imprinted already.
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>>3111291
I'm not AGAINST this, but I am firmly in the Adriana camp when it comes to who I feel Sofia is most compatible with romantically and I am...

A). Unsure how casual that sort of thing is in setting, and am leery of giving her the wrong idea. Not that we haven't sent her mixed signals today already, I guess.
B). Doubtful that it would get support from people apt to sperg out.
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>>3111291
I think you're misinterpreting the lick retort like they said. It's not supposed be erotic or romantic. Just a 'Got you back' as a joke.

Bantz nigga.
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>>3111294
They didn't seem to want to until they had no choice. The original plan was to bottle us, wait out the clock and then let us go.
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Being able to shrink things will probably help us a lot in future puzzles, situations. It would have helped us when we were buried in rubble, it could have helped us when we thought Gloriana had grown but the police station, it could have helped in our alcohol challenge. It's so useful!
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>>3111291
I'm more for Maccio story wise due to his family secret issues or Adriana because it's interesting now that we know she's up to interesting stuff
If we're going to be friends with Gloriana as so many are suggesting, we can't give mixed messages to the girl.
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>>3111297
No, I want it to be extremely erotic.
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>>3111298
>They didn't seem to want to until they had no choice. The original plan was to bottle us, wait out the clock and then let us go.
Okay, and once we won? They clearly wanted to imprint us, and were unable since Gloriana was there, and then they were getting their asses kicked by her. All examples I gave here >>3111294 are from times that imprinting was what they would have wanted to do if they were capable.
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>>3111294
As someone earlier said. I do not want to get near an incomprehensible esoteric abomination
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>>3111309
But I like our godmother!
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>>3111302
Then we shouldn't do it. Doubly so with Adriana in the same damn room.
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>>3111297
No I'm not, I was rolling with the
>Leer over her with the grin she gave us when she first found us then just wink and let her out unconditionally.
option but also express our appreciation in a cute way. I don't wanna propose to the bitch or anything
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>>3111311
Adriana needs to know our heart is occupied by another.
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>>3111309
>As someone earlier said. I do not want to get near an incomprehensible esoteric abomination
We don't have to get nearer than any of the other people. We don't have to do anything that we haven't already done. Keep a distance of three feet, challenge to RPS, take a bottle from the table. None of that is any more dangerous than what we've already done.

As for Adriana vs Gloriana? I don't like Adriana. Gloriana is at least funny.
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>>3111316
I think you're outvoted. 3 people have outright explained why they don't want to get close to even try, and the majority has voted to see if Gloriana is okay.
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>>3111320
>I think you're outvoted. 3 people have outright explained why they don't want to get close to even try, and the majority has voted to see if Gloriana is okay.
Yes, that's why I'm trying to argue otherwise, that the reason given for caution isn't enough to instill that much caution. Hopefully I will stop being outvoted if my argument is persuasive enough. If the ability to make things small is worth the possible risk.
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Not gonna lie, Gloriana really hasn’t done much to endear me to her.

But the bitch when to bat for us when we were completely helpless. If that doesn’t earn her a clean slate and a beer I don’t know what does.
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>>3111134
>I genuinely think part of her excitement over the doll thing was that she may have found someone - and an opportunity - where she could keep them around.
You mean she was excited to hold someone captive without their consent? Yeah, so endearing I'm almost crying.

>>3111147
>>3111154
>>3111163
>>3111169
Ya'll need Jesus and/or a therapist

>>3111091
>”Yes please.”
Whatever we want to do, we can do it better full-size.

>”Have you found the other duellist?”
Gloriana's a bitch, but we're better than her.
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>>3111874
>>3111169
>Ya'll need Jesus and/or a therapist
>She also mentioned her mother a lot in our first duel. I think she must have loved her a lot
Yay Jesus and/or therapy!
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>>3111893
One of those links should've been >>3111172
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I'm feeling better now. Vote called and writing.
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I do appreciate that when shit started hitting the fan, Gloriana immediately got serious and put herself in harm's way to try and help us. She's awfully considerate to her unfriendly rival, for someone who's supposedly a terrible person.
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>”Have you found the other duellist?”

“One thing first, have you found the other duellist?”

“Yes. She seems to be fine, though she’ll need to be checked by your friend as well.”
The way he phrases the term ‘your friend’ to refer to Adriana makes him sound almost a little disbelieving that you’re actually friends with her.

“Where is she?”

“Right now? Still in a bottle I think. It looks like she’d gotten into a fight with the two puppets.”

“...She was protecting me. Do you think she’s been infested?”

“Probably not. We’re being very cautious here but the truth of the matter is that however the Handprint finds new victims, it doesn’t seem to do it through ways we yet understand. It might be that proximity and contact have absolutely nothing to do with it.”

“Right. They were fighting with one another too.”

“Pardon?”

“If they were both being controlled, why would they argue?”

“There’s a lot we still don’t know. But so far we’ve found no way of getting the things out without permanent ego death so it’s better to safe than sorry. Now, would you like to see the other duellist? Someone’s rolled her into a corner somewhere.”
Of course a duellist isn’t the top priority for a bunch of constables and lawyers. Neat.


>”Yes. And get her out of the bottle!”

>”In a moment. Please call my godmother down here first so she can fix me.” You’d like to be fully sized again by the next time you see Gloriana.

>"Can I take her home?"

>Other (Specify)
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>>3111958
>”In a moment. Please call my godmother down here first so she can fix me.” You’d like to be fully sized again by the next time you see Gloriana.

>"Can I take her home?"
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>>3111958
>”In a moment. Please call my godmother down here first so she can fix me.” You’d like to be fully sized again by the next time you see Gloriana.

>Absolute no to taking her home.
Because we're better than her and don't entertain thoughts of enslaving a human being foe our sick amusement.
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>>3111958
>>”Yes. And get her out of the bottle!”
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>>3111958
>>”Yes. And get her out of the bottle!”
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>>3111958
>”In a moment. Please call my godmother down here first so she can fix me.” You’d like to be fully sized again by the next time you see Gloriana.
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Sorry, I fell asleep. Vote called and writing!
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Thank fuck posting is up again.

>”In a moment. Please call my godmother down here first so she can fix me.” You’d like to be fully sized again by the next time you see Gloriana.

“In a moment, yes. But please call my godmother down here first so she can fix me.”
There’s no point in asking for anything to be done before you’re fixed. You’re eager to finally be back at a proper size and besides that, you can just imagine the look on Gloriana’s face when she looks up to see you. But any idea of vengeance pale compared to just the idea of being restored to normal. It feels like forever and a day since you’ve been bottled and you’re well and truly ready for it to end now.

“I’ll do you one better than that,” Orenzo whispers. “I’ll take you up to her. She was upstairs, last I checked.”

You nearly tell him that you know before you remember that nobody else knows that you were hiding under her skirt. And honestly, best to keep it that way. So instead, looking for something to say as he starts to walk towards the stairs, you keep talking.
“Do you work with my godmother often?”

“With Giuseppina? You could say that. Back when I was a Junior Associate I did some work directly under her as one of her assistants.”

“Was she a good boss?”

He doesn’t answer the question.
“She wasn’t even supposed to be here, you know. She’s not certified to know about this. But she was so worried about you! So you have to promise not tell her about the Handprint, no matter how often she asks.”

“Why isn’t she allowed to know?”

“This thing is a threat to High Law. It is a clear and present attempt from something from somewhere else to undermine the usual order of the City. But it’s nowhere near as dangerous as what would happen if people knew it existed. So only those trusted to be reliable and those who can’t avoid being told should know. Not to mention that the more people know, the more likely it is that the Handprint knows. As for Giuseppina, well, she’s mad. Nuttier than panforte. She’s permanently disqualified from anything sensitive.”

“Right.”
These are all things you’ve thought about Giuseppina herself but for some reason, hearing it said openly by another lawyer makes you feel a little angry. You’re not even sure why.

Still with you sitting in the palm of one hand, Orenzo pushes open the door to the study.
“Hey Giuse-oh. Really? Now?”

Giuseppina is crouched by the bookshelf, the tail of the house-python you fled from earlier sticking out of her mouth. As you watch with your mouth opens, she quickly swallows and the still-wriggling snake vanishes down her throat.
“Is it really worse than sucking on boots, Orenzo? Is it really? And-oh? Oh? Oh? FiFi!”

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>>3112283
You barely have any time to brace yourself before Giuseppina snatches you free from his hand and, cradling you in both hands, hugs you to her ample bosom.
“There you are! When I saw that you had requested an investigation, I knew something was wrong!”
You say nothing. This is because you are in serious danger of suffocating.

Giuseppina eventually lets up, freeing you and holding you up against her face instead. A pair of midnight blue eyes that each feel bigger than your own head stare down at you through empty spectacles. You are being breathed upon, an experience that is unpleasantly...humid.
“FiFi, what have they done to you?”

You shrug, still gasping for breath.
“Isn’t it obvious?”

An awkward silence follows, during which you can hear Orenzo walking away. And then finally Giuseppina speaks up again.
“You’ve been shrunk, haven’t you? It took me a moment to notice.”

“It what?”

“I can’t be having with trivial details like time and space, darling, you know that. But I’m just happy that you’re alright.”

“Can you change me back? I’m fucking sick of being four inches tall.”

“Oh I can empathize with being small. I myself have a nasty condition that causes me to slowly shrink whenever I’m exposed to Legal Intervention Elucidation Request - Form A76-B. I have to leave all that paperwork to an assistant or else I won’t be able to hold a pen until I’ve recovered. Now, let me just have a look at you...hrm. Someone’s been messing with your perspective.”

“I know they have. And I’ve tried changing my perspective but it doesn’t do anything. I don’t know how this fucking thing works!”

“Well of course that wouldn’t help, FiFi. It’s not your perspective you need to fix. It’s the perspective of the people looking at you. If even one person can be made to see you as something besides four inches tall you should spring back into shape.”

“What? I’m a real person, I’m not defined by the perspectives of other people!”

Your godmother just makes a noncommittal sound and takes her spectacles off. You watch the glasses as she removes them. The beautiful deep blue eyes move with them, still turning to look at you as they do, imprinted onto the non-existent lenses like a picture. Beneath the glasses, your godmother’s eyes are unblinking things, tiny pinprick pupils in an iris of a blue so washed out and pale that it’s nearly white. The eyes of someone who has gazed into the Light.
And while you’re mesmerized by their fixed stare, Giuseppina drops you.

2/3
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>>3112285

You choke back a scream as you hit the ground immediately, your hand striking the wall to steady yourself. Wait. You look down. You are standing on the carpet and the carpet is as thin as it should be. The desk is shorter than you. There is a book on the shelf next to your hand and if you picked it up it would be normal sized. Just like you. You’re normal sized.
And there, standing in front of you, still tall enough that you’re only eye-level to her neck as per the usual, is your godmother. She reaches out and tousles your hair, sliding her spectacles back on.
“There you go, kiddo. It’s not so bad now, is it?”

“How did you do that?”

“Who knows? But they haven’t done anything else to you, have they?”

“I think I might have been molested actually but it’s kind of a grey area.”

“That sounds extremely worrying but you don’t sound worried so I’m going to try to not sound worried either! Congratulations on another excellent duel victory incidentally.”

“We can talk a bit more later. There’s someone else who needs your help.”

“That’s fine. Fine by me. But let’s walk and talk FiFi. And by that I mean let’s stay in this study away from everyone else and not walk at all and talk. What’s going on here?”

“You’re not supposed to know.”

“I know that. So what is it?”

“I…”

“Can’t you just tell poor old Juicy?”


>”They think you’re too unreliable. So no.”

>Give in and tell her a little bit.

>Pretend you’re telling her but lie.

>”Juicy should remember that I just took a baby for her before she starts guilt tripping me right afterwards.”

>”...Why did you eat that snake?”

>Other (Specify)
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>>3112288
>...Why did you eat that snake?
>Also there's one more person in need of a perspective change
Gloriana's a lil' bitch, but returning her to full size would be proper.
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>>3112288
>Bad people doing bad things. You heard the charges after all. Let's leave it at that.

If she doesn't stop pressing
>”Juicy should remember that I just took a baby for her before she starts guilt tripping me right afterwards.”
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>>3112288
>”Juicy should remember that I just took a baby for her before she starts guilt tripping me right afterwards.”
>”...Why did you eat that snake?”
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I'm going to sleep. Vote will remain open until I wake tomorrow. Good night!
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>>3112288
>>”Juicy should remember that I just took a baby for her before she starts guilt tripping me right afterwards.”
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>>3112288
>”Juicy should remember that I just took a baby for her before she starts guilt tripping me right afterwards.”
>It could get worse than a baby.
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>>3112288
>Bad people doing bad things. You heard the charges after all. Let's leave it at that.
>Also there's one more person in need of a perspective change
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>>3112288
>>”They think you’re too unreliable. So no.”
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>>3112288
>Sorry, I don't want to talk about it. You pushed a baby on me so you owe me.

We are not calling her Juicy.
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>>3112288
>I was expressly forbidden to tell
>And we’re still deslijbt with the baby
>And it’s something the other lawyers seem to have in hand
>In short it’s high law bulllshit I wish I didn’t know about but keep getting dragged into.
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We could tell her that she's not getting higher classification until she becomes less insane. It's her own choice.
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>>3112288
>>”...Why did you eat that snake?”
>>Other (Specify)
This is way above my paygrade as a mere public defender. Sorry.
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>>3112288
>Other
>"I've been explicitly forbidden from telling you"
>"And if you don't pry they might view you as reliable enough to work on the case officially. It could be a test!"
>”...Why did you eat that snake?”
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I'm awake! Vote called and writing.
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>”Juicy should remember that I just took a baby for her before she starts guilt tripping me right afterwards.”
>”...Why did you eat that snake?”

You sigh, still getting used to being your regular size again. You can’t feel vibrations through the floor anywhere near as much, you can actually walk from place to place without having to run or climb and your head is so far up from the floor that it actually makes you feel a little dizzy. You spent so much acclimatizing to being four inches tall that now...now you don’t feel normal. Now, you feel like a giantess. You swing a foot idly and watch it easily cross a distance of forty feet or more. You’re so huge!
“Juicy should remember that I just took a baby for her before she starts guilt tripping me right afterwards?”

You’re expecting a bad reaction so you’re surprised to hear nothing. You turn and see Giuseppina looking down at you shining eyes, her hands clasped together, her usual grin somehow even wider.
“You did it!”

“Eh?”

“You finally used the nickname!”

“Oh I didn’t mean to…”

“It’s too late now, FiFi! We’ve bonded! We’ve shared a casual yet emotional milestone, you lowering your walls to finally let your godmother back into your life!”

“It’s just a nickname.”

“Nicknames are just the beginning. It just shows that you care! So...use your newfound connection to tell me about what’s going on here.”

“Did you hear anything in what I told you besides the term ‘Juicy’? It’s rude to pressure me, Giuseppina. Especially so after I just took a certain baby off your hands.”

She takes a step back, looking appropriately chastised.
“You’re right. How is he, by the way?”

“I don’t know. A baby? You’ll have to ask Adriana later.”

“Good. I still have a boon to grant her anyway.”

“By the way if you don’t mind me asking…”
There’s something that’s been weighing uneasily on your mind since you first saw it.
“Why did you eat that snake?”

“Do I need a reason?”

“Yes? Ideally so.”

“What if I was just peckish? It’s better for you than eating a book, easier too. And well, I guess it’s a habit. I just really like the feeling of something alive and struggling as it slides down your throat. I picked it up a few years ago after taking part in a few of the more unusual punishments.”
She sees your expression and makes a dismissive gesture.
“I’m hardly the only person, FiFi! It’s practically a subculture. It’s called Carne Cruda Vivente. Like the usual carne cruda, you see but even rawer. There’s a great little bar I could take you to some day, they serve up a bowl of big tadpoles stewing in wine. You’ve got to pick them up one by one before they finish dying and swallow them.”

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>>3113276

You’re starting to deeply appreciate the fact that you didn’t out yourself to Giuseppina right away. Not that she would….surely not.
“But a whole snake? That was too big.”

‘It’s an acquired skill as well as an acquired taste. You’d be surprised by what I can fit into my mouth! And to tell the truth. I was just thinking about how that poor little fellow wasn’t going to have an owner anymore. It would have been cruel to just leave him.”

“...i think I’ll pass on this particular subculture, thanks. Now, there’s one other person who needs your help. My opponent has yet to be unbottled.”

“Oh sure. That’s all I’m good for apparently.”

“Pardon?”

“I have so many tricks, FiFi! I’ve been around the block a few times and I’m certified for all kinds of stuff. I’m a veteran troubleshooter! And yet I continue to be discriminated against by my own coworkers. I mean, Orenzo? That little bootsucking creep? I could out-barrister him with one hand tied behind my back! I taught him everything he knows and trust me, that’s nowhere near being everything I know. And yet he is apparently ‘trustworthy’ and ‘reliable’ and ‘not delusional’.”
She blows a raspberry, thus proving her maturity.
“No doubt he’ll be promoted above Senior Associate before I ever will. That...that really starts to get to you after a while. I can tell what everyone’s thinking every time I’m at the High Court. They’re all laughing at me behind their backs! Nevermind that I’m the victim here! I didn’t ask for this to happen to me!”

You put a hand on her shoulder.
“Hold on, just calm down. Deep breaths. It’ll all be alright.”

“They’re all just afraid of me,” she grumbles quietly, following your instructions. “All I’ve ever wanted was to serve the City.”

You can’t help but wonder how much of this is imagined.
“By the way, I think you meant to call Orenzo a bootlicker, not a bootsucker.”

“No. I know what I said. It’s better if you don’t ask. Now...oh dear, I’m sorry FiFi. Just pretend that you didn’t hear any of that. This is so embarrassing! Let’s go deal with that bottled duellist, shall we?”


>Go downstairs with her and get Gloriana. It’ll mean having to pass through Adriana.

>Ask Giuseppina to do it by herself while you stay up here. You don’t want to talk to Adriana just yet…

>Other (Specify)
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>>3113278
>>Go downstairs with her and get Gloriana. It’ll mean having to pass through Adriana.

>BE prepared to tell Adrianna the following
>If I had anything to apologize for, which I do not, I would apologize for totally justifiable panicking. I am the absolute best at talking to people.
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>>3113278
>Go downstairs with her and get Gloriana. It’ll mean having to pass through Adriana.
>Attempt to apologize for panicking and running off like that. It'll come out warped like >>3113298 put it, but she'll understand.
>Also ask if we could talk later. We did say we'd come back after all even if it was through panicking.
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>>3113278
>>3113298

And maybe, also emphasize because we're actually a socially awkward idiot by repeating "absolutely the best.'
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>It’s better for you than eating a book, easier too. And well, I guess it’s a habit. I just really like the feeling of something alive and struggling as it slides down your throat. I picked it up a few years ago after taking part in a few of the more unusual punishments.”
...
>“By the way, I think you meant to call Orenzo a bootlicker, not a bootsucker.”

>“No. I know what I said. It’s better if you don’t ask. Now...oh dear, I’m sorry FiFi. Just pretend that you didn’t hear any of that. This is so embarrassing! Let’s go deal with that bottled duellist, shall we?”

what the fuck

>>3113278
this >>3113298
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>>3113325
Yeah, I'm trying to ignore that.
I know that crudo and other raw food is a big thing in Italy. Especially octopus and scallops really fresh... but seriously
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>>3113351
I just wonder why she's so weird, the other lawyers don't seem as crazy. I mean, she called the lawyers that stick to the book nerds earlier in this thread, how the fuck did she get into the law?
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>>3113278
>"No, I want to know. Is it another subculture thing or an unusual punishment thing?"

>Go downstairs with her and get Gloriana. It’ll mean having to pass through Adriana.

>Tell Adriana that your heart has been claimed by another. Also she'll kill you if you get together so it can't happen. You'll always be the best of friends though!
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>>3113353
She was the one that accidentally got through their vaunted Lawyer training process that was supposed to weed out deviant personalities somehow?
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>>3113315
>>3113298
>>3113278
These
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Vote called, writing.
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>Go downstairs with her and get Gloriana. It’ll mean having to pass through Adriana.

“Yes, let’s.”
You’re not going to just hide up here because Adriana is down there. That’d be foolish and it wouldn’t actually make anything better. Sometimes you have to make yourself uncomfortable.

It’s refreshing to actually walk down the stairs and as you and Giuseppina step into the ruined workshop, you have to stifle the feeling that you’re actually huge instead of normal-sized. It makes you feel oddly unbalanced otherwise, since tripping over would mean dropping a distance that was once easily a hundred feet for you.
Shit. You really went native very quickly, didn’t you?

Orenzo is down here, though he looks very different now that he’s not a giant. Or now that you’re a giant. Either one. He’s supervising Ennio and Donatella being packed into long scrolls of ambisilk. And there, doing the packing, staring at you through the small crowd of constables are lawyers, is Adriana. One of her two bodies picks up the other’s scroll seamlessly as the other makes a beeline straight towards you!

And there it is. The two of you are just standing there, less than twenty feet separating you. Or just one foot depending on your perspective. She looks dumbfounded.
“Sofia...what are you doing here?”

“I could ask you the same question.”

Giuseppina thoroughly interrupts the moment.
“Fancy seeing you again so soon, Adriana! How is everything going?”
And by ‘everything’, she of course just means one specific thing.

“It’s fine,” Adriana says softly. “I’m still taking care of it now. But..Sofia...I…”

“No,” you say, cutting her off. “Listen to me, Adriana. I’m not going to apologize to you. What I did this morning was perfectly justified. I’m...I’m the absolute best at talking to people. So it’s not my fault, you understand?”
She does understand, right? Not your words, they’re as horrible as ever. But she can see right through you.

“Thank you for the kind words. And if anything, I should be apologizing to you. I’m sorry! I’m sorry that I lured you into that situation! I’m sorry for not being able to control myself better! And most of all, I’m sorry for...for all that needless stuff I said out on the street afterwards. Please just forget all about it.”

She doesn’t specify but you know exactly what she’s talking about. She’s talking about her confession, her desperate admission of loneliness and want.
Needless.

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>>3113499
>Just accept her apology. You don’t want to do or say anything too much here, not in public.

>”I’ll never forget it. I’ll remember it forever Adriana and I won’t stop until they can be more than just words. I’ll find a way.”

>”Needless? Is that how you really feel then?”

>”...It’s not right. I think we should both take a step back. We can see other people.” Technically you already have been.

>”I don’t love you back. I don’t know if I even can.”

>Other (Specify)
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>>3113503
>>Just accept her apology. You don’t want to do or say anything too much here, not in public.
Yeah, if we reject her or accept her, it has to be in private. Not infront of a crowd
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>>3113503
>”I’ll never forget it. I’ll remember it forever Adriana and I won’t stop until they can be more than just words. I’ll find a way.”

Not really worried about saving face here. It being public makes it better in a way.
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>>3113503
>”I’ll never forget it. I’ll remember it forever Adriana and I won’t stop until they can be more than just words. I’ll find a way.”
Devotion!
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>>3113503
>>”I’ll never forget it. I’ll remember it forever Adriana and I won’t stop until they can be more than just words. I’ll find a way.”
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>>3113503
>>”I’ll never forget it. I’ll remember it forever Adriana and I won’t stop until they can be more than just words. I’ll find a way.”

I don't think it's possible for the romance novel reading, fountain wishing Sofia to forget her receiving her first confession.

Also that 4th option is kinda rude since she can't really see other people.
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>>3113503
>>Just accept her apology. You don’t want to do or say anything too much here, not in public.

Let's not waifu her, not because I don't want too, but because it is not fair to any of us atm. Not to her nor Sofia.


>>3113513
Stupidity.
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>>3113536
So we're falling madly in love with the first girl no matter what?

Even when Sofia has literally heard ALL these word before from her other suitors?
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>>3113540
First time genuine then.

I think it's worth trying. It's going to take effort, but everything good does don't it?
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>>3113540
It's the first girl syndrome I guess.
Also, I think most are approaching it the wrong direction.
I'd rather we tried to get her to see other people by getting rid of her unfortunate ability to kill people.
Then if she still wants us after that, then yeah, go for it.
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>>3113548
Third girl syndrome actually. And that's just the girls! Maccio, his brothers technically, and Sabino are in there too.
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>>3113503
>>Just accept her apology. You don’t want to do or say anything too much here, not in public.

Come on guys, even if you want to waifu her let's not do it in public and while there's currently no way of making it work.
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>>3113551
You mean second girl is Adriana
First boy is Maccio
First girl is Sabino.
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>>3113557

Poor Leonarda.
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>>3113557
Actually no, I'm wrong again. I forgot about poor Leonarda.Oops, we should see how her studies are going.
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>>3113546
How about not in front of the handprint which might very well use us against her?
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>>3113553
What do you think 'I'll find a way' means?

It's a declaration of effort to try to make this work. And like I said, it being in public makes it better imo. No shame here.

>>3113557
1. Nards
2. Gloriana
3. Adriana
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>>3113510
>>3113513
>>3113518
>>3113536
>saying this
>In front of the handprint
>Which would give it through us access to kill it's most dangerous enemy
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>>3113562
Oh yeah, I've completely forgotten the risk factor here.
We don't want to give Handsy a way to blackmail adriana if it can overhear us right now
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>>3113566
So you're telling me, the entity that has a beef with both Adriana and Sofia already will potentially capture one of them if they get their hands on one instead of out right killing them (like they normally would) to use as blackmail thus giving a slim chance at their survival when there would otherwise be none?
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3113585
Adriana is thus far completely unaffected by the Hands. It'll be looking for alternative methods, how about controlling her actions or mitigating Adriana by threatening Sofia somehow?
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>>3113585
Adrianna EAT the hand, it cannot touch her.

Sofia is not so lucky, and it could use Sofia to either threaten or Kill the one foe it cannot just control.
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>>3113593
Well thankfully after rereading the last passage it looks like the two Handprints are already packed in ambisilk with the other Adriana holding the two scrolls.
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>>3113601
Unless of course one of the lawyers is infected. or Juicy is.
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>>3113619
I'm not even going to pretend to entertain that kind of style of playing. A dose of paranoia and caution is good sometimes, but I refuse to play this quest always thinking 'What if this person is a Handprint?' with little to no evidence and have that impacting voting.

It has a lighter tone after all.
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>>3113643
I hope the 'lighter tone' is for real. I really really hope.
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>>3113643
>Lighter tone
>Casual flaying
>Mind rape
>Mind rape turning into killing a person
>the arbiters of the law casually killing people
>Arbiters of the law eating things live for giggles
>Arbiters of the law being raised over and over again for one purpose
>Law having nothing to do with actual law but with how deep your wallet is to get the best swordsman
>You can baleful polymrph people on a whim
>Forced transgender-isms
>Being an apprentice means your master can casually whore you out at will
>Feeding a pig quicksilver turns it into a biological computer inimical to all life


This place is literally just as bad as lamplighter, with a shiny Veneer of Sugar to make is Crapsaccharine over crapsack.
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>”I’ll never forget it. I’ll remember it forever Adriana and I won’t stop until they can be more than just words. I’ll find a way.”

You’re so thrown off by everything that it takes for a moment to click. You’ve...you’ve been in this situation before. Not you personally that is but you’ve lived it countless times through proxy whenever you paged through a romance. And maybe that was all fiction but now? You’ve found yourself playing the love interest to a real tragic romance protagonist.
But this is all taking place in the back of your head, in some otherwise unoccupied corner. The rest of your mind is too busy trying not to cry. And you know just what to say.
“I’ll never forget it! I’ll remember it forever, Adriana, and I won’t stop until they can be more than just words. I’ll find a way.”
It’s what someone should say. But more to the point, how could you possibly say anything else? What you’d do in a book doesn’t matter. This is real. You can tell because you choose it to be real.

“Maybe it won’t be tomorrow,” you say, keeping your voice low. “But someday, I promise. So please wait because one day…”
You think back to what Adriana told you.
“One day I’ll surround you. I’ll encompass you and know every inch of you. And I won’t care how dangerous it is because it won’t matter.”

This would be a bad time to bring up that after this morning, you’ve already given Maccio your first kiss and done something extremely weird but consensual with Gloriana. So you try not to even think about it and that’s actually quite easy. Maybe it’s because, deep down, you’d been hoping to do the same with her.
Is that what love is? This feeling that scratches the inside of your gut and makes you want to die? It’s a prickly warmth and it feels good and at the same time it makes you feel shame. Because Adriana almost certainly deserves someone better than you.

You’re already exhausted, it’s been a very busy and frightening day. But none of that feels as harrowing as standing there waiting for her to reply.

“I believe you,” Adriana says and you feel like a piece of wonderful garbage, elation and shame sharing space within you. “But not because of what I see. What I see is...hrm.”
She trails off and you suddenly feel like the most wretched thing on the face of the City.
“But,” she continues in a whisper. “I believe in what I want to see. Because nobody is just only what they are now. So I’ll wait. I know you’ll come back.”

Is this all a lie? A fiction on behalf of both of you? If so, you refuse to abandon it.

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>>3113687


******

It takes a little time for you to feel ready to do anything at all.

Some minutes later, after Adriana has left and most of everyone has filed out, you are squatting in front of a tiny bottle lying on its side in the corner of the room. And inside...a tiny but familiar girl beats on the glass, her high-pitched squeaking just barely audible through the glass and entirely incomprehensible.

“Hello, Gloriana.”


>Just have Giuseppina free her right away.

>Tease her a little first. Nothing serious.

>Take her home first.

>You’re not going to keep her like that but shouldn’t you spend a little time doing to her what she did to you? A little tit for tat?

>”Thanks. I know that couldn’t have been easy.”

>”Bye Gloriana.” Leave her there.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3113680 isn't wrong. Anons are calling this place and people 'fae' for a reason- they wouldn't be out of place in certain stories...
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>>3113690
>Thank you for trying to save me.
>Just have Giuseppina free her right away.
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>>3113680
Also you forgot the whole 'no respect for life that isn't theirs' thing they seem to have going on. What with the wall and other paintings and the mirror-verse shit and all that.
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>>3113680
Man I don't really want to take any part in this argument and the City certainly isn't a nice place but there's a lot of stuff on here that's either wrong or deliberately misrepresented.
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>>3113690
>Tease her a little first. Nothing serious.
>You’re not going to keep her like that but shouldn’t you spend a little time doing to her what she did to you? A little tit for tat?
>”Thanks. I know that couldn’t have been easy.”
I want to go through with what was planned earlier to lick her as payback.
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>>3113690
>Tease her a little first. Nothing serious.
As in give her that same leery grin and stare she gave us when she saw us small for the first time, maybe make a show out of making grasping motions with our hands.

Then just wink
>”Thanks. I know that couldn’t have been easy.”
>Have Giuseppina free her.
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>>3113690

>Tease her a little first. Nothing serious.
You look adorable when you're tiny!

>>”Thanks. I know that couldn’t have been easy.”
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>>3113703
Which parts?

I now juicy is an outlier
I also know Sabino is an outlier
So is Adrianna and the hand
BUt all this is thing I have seen in the quest. Things that while uncommon and outside the norm still happened. Uncommon, yes. But not Wrong.

From an outsider perspective this would be a nightmare realm.

>>3113693
and this is a whole nother can of worms, wew.
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>>3113690
>Tease her a little first. Nothing serious.
>”Thanks. I know that couldn’t have been easy.”
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>>3113690
>Tease her a little first. Nothing serious.

THE LICK
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>>3113690
>Tease her a little first. Nothing serious.
>You’re not going to keep her like that but shouldn’t you spend a little time doing to her what she did to you? A little tit for tat?

Licking-based revenge should be on the table, clearly.
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>>3113736
>>3113704
No licking, we just confessed to Adriana despite full out acting out by kissing Maccio and doing weird stuff with Gloriana. Let's not do unwarranted sexual stuff to other people please
We're already garbage
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>>3113742
We were already garbage, thus we must go deeper into being trash.
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>>3113742
We're garbage, but Gloriana will accept us. And our tongue. Not that she has much of a choice right now.
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>>3113721
Well alright. I'm not gonna say the City is good. It's supposed to be disconcerting.

>>3113680
>Casual flaying
Unironically one of the lightest tone parts of the quest. Maybe the content was a little off but tone-wise, it was just Sofia getting exactly what she wanted and thoroughly enjoying herself. Nobody was getting disassembled against their will so outside of being uncomfortable with the content there's very little dark about it.

>the arbiters of the law casually killing people
>Arbiters of the law eating things live for giggles
>Arbiters of the law being raised over and over again for one purpose
>Law having nothing to do with actual law but with how deep your wallet is to get the best swordsman
>You can baleful polymrph people on a whim

All this stuff, more than half the list, just boils down to 'people in charge of the law sometimes abuse it' and 'how rich you are matters more than how just you are'. And that's true but it's also just life. You'll not find an escape from this anywhere.
They just have unfamiliar methods to do familiar things.

>forced transgender-isms

Sabino knew what he was getting into well before hand and as Sabina, was just taking part in the traditions of the Ring she loves.

>Being an apprentice means your master can casually whore you out at will

This is bad but it's also not normal. This is not a normal state of affairs. That it happens anyway is unfortunate but not particularly different from real life either.

The other stuff is true. Like I said, it's not a happy gumdrop rainbow land or whatever. It's certainly not a fun place for some people. But I think some of you guys are being a bit hyperbolic.
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I recognise that engaging in this discussion was probably a mistake but whatever. Vote called, writing.
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>>3113711
>>3113690
I'll second this. Licking just seems off after what just happened
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>>3113767
Real talk, dude?

I sincerely think you just have a FAR higher tolerance for what's seriously 'strange' and 'disturbing' than other people. So you're confused when we freak out because to you, it's not that bad, while to us, it's downright alien or hellish.
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>>3113767
I think what you think as 'light' is very different from most people.
Most people were rather freaked out by the casual flaying which to you is simply an elaborate way of saying Sofia got a full body massage.
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>>3113767
The issue is, not that rich abuse the poor, which while unfortunate is something of a fact of life.

It's just how much they can and will abuse it.

Turning people into whores, forcing them to mind death or worse all because they are better with a sword or can magic someone into doing so.

Hell Lawyers get killed and killed and killed again until the pass. They have no other options at all. That's pretty fucked up, and COMMON to all of them.

Death is treated as blasely as life, if someone wanted to they could duel you to own you and do anything they wanted to you including having you turned into a suitcase where they would have to reach up your ass to to get their stuff out of you, all while still alive and feeling it.


The scope of this is far far far beyond what we can do normally, even in the most anarchic times of the world ala Wild west, medieval wars etc.
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>>3113767
In any case, it's an interesting world. Full of imagination and great story telling, I like it a lot.
But in my mind, to deal with some of the nightmarish aspects of this world, I dubbed it as 'fae'.
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>>3113816

Yeah, exactly! It's not like it's a poorly made world or ANYTHING. Quite the opposite. It's INCREDIBLE well designed and developed. It's also just...fucked up. Call a spade a spade. Or in my case, fae lifestyle a fae lifestyle.
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I'm not saying it's not fucked up. I'm just saying that most of the stuff specified in that list weren't actually anything like they said they were.
For example, calling Sabina 'forced' just seems like an attempt to make something darker than it actually is.

And stuff like this
>>3113800
> if someone wanted to they could duel you to own you and do anything they wanted to you including having you turned into a suitcase where they would have to reach up your ass to to get their stuff out of you, all while still alive and feeling it.

is ??????. Like, what?
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>>3113836
Look Ouro, there are aspects of the game which... are not light in tone for some of the players and are extremely otherworldly.
We're like lower worlder tourists walking around the City, acting like a bunch of fascina. We're freaked out by everything.
you can't sink in water like normally.
People settle extremely important legal issues by fighting in duels.
You need licenses for everything, even for something as simple as swimming.
Birds are nonexistent or temporary existences.
Pigs can mutate into abominations that can talk to you if you feed it quicksilver.
The people of the City disdain your discomfort with everything that seems like magic
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>>3113792
I gotta agree with Ouro here, it was supposed to be freaky but it was clearly a very positive experience.
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>>3113850
I think you're conflating "eerie/otherworldly/alien" with "dark" to an unnecessary degree.
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>>3113867
Well that's not covering the High Law and lawyer shenanigans.
Lawyers being repeatedly forced to go through life again and again, essentially dying over and over again until they pass.
Additional punishment on top of what the law is going to hoist upon you if you lose a duel because the aggrieved wants to make things worse for you.
Reflections having conscientiousness that is snuffed out once you leave the sight of it.
Hornets transforming into humans and will die if they confess their love to another.
Law screw ups that badly affect individuals like Adriana.
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>Tease her a little first. Nothing serious.
>Tit for tat!

Still kneeling by her, you pick up the bottle and set it on the table. Gloriana has stopped struggling and is sitting at the bottom, looking up at you fearfully.
“Do you want to give me a hand, Giuseppina?”

“In a moment,” she says, still sobbing in the corner of the room. She’d taken your conversation with Adriana a lot harder than either you or Adriana had.
“You kids better be alright…”

Sighing a little, you draw your sword and, making sure that the tiny Gloriana is still cowering at the bottom, slice the top off the bottle! Gloriana steps free, standing atop the table like you had not so long ago. And you tower over her just as she had to you.
What must she see of you right now?

Gloriana shouts something but it just comes out as a cute squeak. She is cute, you decide, when she’s like this. And while she might have called you a doll before, now that you’re on the other side of things, you can tell that she was wrong. She’s much too small to be a doll.

Oh, the boot’s on the other foot now!


>Just give a big smile and pretend to grab her. That’s all.

>”Once you asked me what I’d do to please you and gain your mercy. Can you answer the same question?” Don’t actually do anything, this is just to scare her a little.

>Pick her up. Let her feel how it feels.

>Give her a quick lick as well. Just for banter purposes, you know?

>Stuff her down your top.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3113885
>>”Once you asked me what I’d do to please you and gain your mercy. Can you answer the same question?” Don’t actually do anything, this is just to scare her a little.
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>>3113885
>Pick her up. Let her feel how it feels.
>Give her a quick lick as well. Just for banter purposes, you know?
We keep voting for this. You keep not giving this to us. Why.
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>>3113885
>Pick her up. Let her feel how it feels.
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>>3113885
>Just give a big smile and pretend to grab her. That’s all.
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I thought the plan earlier was to simply mess with her lightly and restore her because we wanted to mess with her psychologically.
We had every reason to bully her but we didn't. A bully can't understand that.
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>>3113878
Law stuff isn't intended to come off as nice.
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>>3113885
>>Just give a big smile and pretend to grab her. That’s all.
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>>3113885
>”Once you asked me what I’d do to please you and gain your mercy. Can you answer the same question?” Don’t actually do anything, this is just to scare her a little.


>>3113892
Because it's shitty and we're better than she is so we should act like it? Also she put herself at bodily risk for us.


Like everyone keeps bitching bad person when you all keep voting for her to be one.


>>3113901
Anons are petty assholes who lash out at people constantly then whine when they are judged as bad people.
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>>3113278
>"I didn’t ask for this to happen to me!”
>Hmm.
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>>3113885
>Pick her up. Let her feel how it feels.
>Stuff her down your top.
Perhaps licking is just a tad too far.
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>>3113907
We might have to change our votes to give the 'Just give a big smile and pretend to grab her. That’s all.' a majority if other options become the majority
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>>3113680
>>Being an apprentice means your master can casually whore you out at will
Wait what? Who got whored out?
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>>3113885
>Just give a big smile and pretend to grab her. That’s all.
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>>3113885
>>3113890
Changing to
>Just give a big smile and pretend to grab her. That’s all.
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>>3113885
>Give her a quick lick as well. Just for banter purposes, you know?

At least, we meant for it to be quick but it ends up getting drawn out far longer than we intended...
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>>3113690
>>You’re not going to keep her like that but shouldn’t you spend a little time doing to her what she did to you? A little tit for tat?
I'm disappointed this wasn't a pun.

>>3113885
>Pick her up. Let her feel how it feels.
>Talk to her.

Gosh, this is awkward.
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>>3113918
Sabino’s master? All but said she was whoring him out to the other girls.

>“Don’t worry,” she purrs, “I’m always willing to share. You’re welcome to her whenever you want.”


Given how she apparently decides who he fucks and all the other ring members have been fucking him? She’s basically pimping him out.
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>>3113915
Since the "Big smile" option is gonna win, i'll go ahead and change my vote to
>Pick her up. Let her feel how it feels.
>Give her a quick lick as well. Just for banter purposes, you know?
and adding
>stuff her down your top
to it, just for full effect
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>>3113885
change this>>3113907

to
this
>Just give a big smile and pretend to grab her. That’s all.
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>>3113885
>>>Just give a big smile and pretend to grab her. That’s all.
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>>3113936
Wow, you're going all the way! That's bravery, that is.
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>>3113885
>>Just give a big smile and pretend to grab her. That’s all.
>>
Vote called, writing.
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Changing >>3113946 to
>Pick her up. Let her feel how it feels.
>Give her a quick lick as well. Just for banter purposes, you know?
>stuff her down your top


Not because I want it to win, but because I want Sophie to consider it.
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>>3113969
I will feel accomplished if the idea is courted for the faintest second, and then discarded in favor of being the better person
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>Just give a big smile and pretend to grab her. That’s all.

Watching the tiny duellist, you let a big old smile spread across your face as you reach out towards her, your hand eclipsing her entire sky. She tries to run but it’s no use, her tiny legs can’t carry her faster than you can move your arm. And as she is cast into shadow…

You pull back and laugh. You are rewarded by adorable angry squeaking.
“Doesn’t feel good, does it?”
And yet, some dark corner of your mind keeps wondering what it’d be like to go through with it. To pick her up, to feel her squirm with all her might and still be overpowered by a single finger. To run your finger along her little body the same way she had done to you. What would it be like, to give her a quick lick? A long lick? A lingering lick? Then, in the spirit of literal tit for tat, you could loosen the buttons of your top a little and give her the tour…

No, what are you thinking? Why are you even considering that? Is something wrong with you? You’ll not stoop to Gloriana’s level! No matter how curious you are about it.

“Alright Giuseppina, I’ve had my fun. Please get all of this over and done with!”

Your godmother approaches, still drying her eyes. It looks weird, considering that she’s doing it to her glasses. But then again you doubt the other pair of eyes can cry at all.
“A-alright. Who was this again?”

“Gloriana. She was my opponent.”

“Just give me a moment.”
You look away to avoid seeing her take her glasses off. But you know she’s done when you hear Gloriana fall of the table.

“Ow! Fuck!”

Your godmother steps back, leaving you and Gloriana facing each other. Or almost anyway. She’s still taller than you because life is unfair. The two of you stare before Gloriana looks away.
“So…,” she says.

“Thanks by the way. I know that was hard for you.”

“It was nothing. Look, just because I’m lowly scum not fit to be in your presence doesn’t mean that I want you to die, you know?”

“And you’re sorry too, right?”

“Eh?”

“You’re going to apologise?”

Gloriana shrugs.
“I should.”
She is then conspicuously silent.

“Hm.”

“Yeah.”

“So about…”

“That? Yeah. That happened.”

An awkward silence descends.


>Insist on that apology.

>It’s fine. Time to part ways.

>”Do you want to go get a drink with me and my godmother?”

>”I know it might be awkward to talk about...that, now that it’s all over. But I want to.”

>”So what were you planning to do to me anyway?”

>”Hey Giuseppina, can you put her back? I’ve changed my mind.”

>Lick.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3114027
>”Do you want to go get a drink with me and my godmother?”
Also
>Lick.
It's not going to win, but I stand by my principles to the end.
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>>3114027
>”Do you want to go get a drink with me and my godmother?”
It's been a hell of a day,
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>>3114027
>Just smirk
>It’s fine. Time to part ways.
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>>3114027

>”Do you want to go get a drink with me and my godmother?”
I need a fucking bottle of wine. No, two bottles of wine
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>>3114027
>”Do you want to go get a drink with me and my godmother?”
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>>3114027
>"Honestly I'm just glad you're alright. Those fuckers were way more dangerous than I thought."
>”Do you want to go get a drink with me and my godmother?”
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>>3114027

>"Do you want to go get a drink with me and my godmother?"
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>>3114027
>"Are...are you dating anyone?"


Gotta sleep bois. Fellow Gloriana fans stay strong. Show Adrianafags the error of their ways.
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Vote called, writing.
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>>3114027
Oh god that lick option hahahaha
>Punch her on the shoulder and say goodbye.
I'mma anon, I don't know about these word things.
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>”Do you want to go get a drink with me and my godmother?”

Perhaps it would be best to act as if none of that had ever happened. What happens in the bottle, stays in the bottle. It certainly wouldn’t be fair to anyone involved, much less Adriana. But neither are you comfortable with just letting Gloriana go after she acted to save your life.
“Hey, do you want to go get a drink with me and my godmother?”

“Yes!,” Giuseppina says eagerly.

“I knew you’d come, I wasn’t asking you. But if Gloriana has something else to do, that’s fine.”

Gloriana raises an eyebrow. It occurs to you that under all the dyed hair and the provocative and weird clothing...she’s surprisingly ordinary looking.
‘I don’t mind. I’m always down for a drink. But I should warn you, I’ll drink you both under the table if you let me.”

Giuseppina steps up, brushing you aside to stare the other duellist down.
“You reckon? In that case, let’s have at it! I know a great bar that’s not all that far away. Remember the one I was describing before Sofia?”

“Wait. You mean the crudo place?”

“Carne Crudo Vivente, yes. You don’t have to partake if you don’t want to.”

“...Ugh.”


>Let Giuseppina do what she wants.

>”How about Gloriana suggests a place instead?”

>There’s a bar just a few streets away that you’ve been to. It’s just down the street from Leonarda.

>Just pick a random bar. Whatever’s closest and serves alcohol.

>Rethink this whole idea. Glorian vs Giuseppina seems like a disaster waiting to happen.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3114129
>There’s a bar just a few streets away that you’ve been to. It’s just down the street from Leonarda.
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>>3114129
>>”How about Gloriana suggests a place instead?”
I'm curious what type of dive bar she goes to.
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>>3114129
>Let Giuseppina do what she wants.
Juicy gets to have fun and Gloriana gets to have a drinking contest, seems good. I think Sofia should probably try and hold her liqour though, so she can be the semi-buzzed witness.
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>>3114129
>”How about Gloriana suggests a place instead?”
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>>3114138
The only witness, there were no other survivors.
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>>3114129
>”How about Gloriana suggests a place instead?”
still no luck power, so we may as well scout out new places and games to see what we can win at.

And who the fuck knows, maybe Gloriana has friends too.
>>
Vote called, writing.
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Sorry about the delay.

>”How about Gloriana suggests a place instead?”

“Thanks for the suggestion Giu, but I absolutely hate it. Why don’t we let Gloriana suggest a place instead?”

“Giu?,” your godmother says, sounding stricken more by that than your insult. “What happened to Juicy?”

“One time only, I’m afraid. I only said because you tricked me into repeating it.”

Giuseppina doesn’t say anything, instead just picking up a little glass bottle and sighting down it as if she was lining it up with you. She then slowly puts it back down as if restraining herself.

“You’ve got a lot of nerve, asking me,” Gloriana says. “Don’t you know I only hang out in absolute pits of sin? Only the cheapest and the most rotten will suffice. And you want me to choose?”

“Yes.”

“Cool. Just checking!”

*****

You look up from your wine blearily. When you’d made that offer, you’d been hoping for a little time to speak to Gloriana. But no, the moment you hit the bar she and your godmother had squared off and were busy trying to drink the other under the table. Giuseppina took these challenges seriously.

The bar is, true to Gloriana’s word, an absolute dump. It reeks of piss and blood and worse, a dingy little room filled with smoke and spilled humours. The man behind the bar had a stitched up scar going all the way down the middle of his face and though you’ve not been here thirty minutes, there’s already been three fights. People huddle in the corners, their minds free from their bodies under the influences of things stronger than alcohol. Perhaps some would never come back. And due to cruder liquors being the order of the day, the wine is like vinegar.
And yet, the three of you are unbothered. Perhaps it’s the swords at your belts. Perhaps it’s Gloriana’s reputation. But most likely it’s due to the wine glass that Giuseppina is drinking out of.

...It hadn’t always been a glass.
Just a few minutes after you’d arrived, Gloriana had left to relieve herself. In her absence, a particular lout of a man had thought it funny to pinch you on the bottom as you passed. You’d turned, furious already and with your hand at the hilt of your sword, all to find that Giuseppina had gotten there first.
And now the man’s friends stayed in the corner, looking on in horror as your godmother ordered bottle after bottle, swilling wine through the glass with the license wrapped around its stem and had once been a human person.

“It’s fine,” Giuseppina said a few minutes later. “It’s more humane than letting you chop his hand off, he won’t remember any of this. I have a permit to help keep the public peace.”

“It seems a little disproportionate.”

1/2
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>>3114309

“Not when my goddaughter is concerned, FiFi. He’s lucky that it’s not worse.”
She then, in full view of the entire bar, had tapped the glass against the table just loud enough to make it chime. Everybody gave you a damn wide berth after that, the bartender kept your glasses full and you had drunk extra hard to try and forget the glimpse of the man you had seen when you had turned around and of the dwindling scream vanishing into the shimmer of glass.

You hadn’t told Gloriana after she came back. Why stop her from having fun?

And that leaves you now, drinking mostly by yourself while Gloriana and Giuseppina butt head to head, glass to glass, bottle to bottle. Both of them are well and truly drunk by now, though each shows it differently.
You feel kind of left out.


>Join in on the contest.

>Just leave them be and watch.

>Talk to Gloriana.

>Talk to Giuseppina.

>Leave them to it and go home.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3114314
>Talk to Gloriana.
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>>3114314
>>Just leave them be and watch.

I want to hear trashtalk,
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>>3114314
>Steal Giu's glass, give it to one of his friends. She's going to break him by accident.
>Drink something and challenge someone to something.
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>>3113687
FUCK
I don't want this.
Fuck all of you yurifags.


>>3114314
>Drunkenly philosophize about life
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>>3114376
Yeah I'm not happy about it either, but that's because I just don't care about Adriana. Also because sticking our toe into actual romantic entanglements in a harem romcom quest is a rookie mistake.
That's when cheating happens and adhd flirting forgetting about the people we're dating because there's another romantic interest right there....
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>>3114383
The same people voted to lick Gloriana a minute later.
Adriana doesn't deserve this.

>harem romcom
Uh...
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>>3114393
This is clearly a harem romcom.
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>>3114314
>Drunkenly wax on about Adriana.
>>
Come on guys, we have the brain trust together here, we need to ask them for love advice.
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>>3114314
>Talk to Gloriana.
She won't turn us into something horrible. Also we can critique her cleavage. There is such a thing as too much, after all.
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>>3114439
>Come on guys, we have the brain trust together here, we need to ask them for love advice.
Love advice? Click on >>3113687. Notice how sappy and shallow it is. Cringe, get drunk, and avoid anywhere we think Adriana will be.
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>>3114314
>Switch the glass to something normal
>Chat with them while they duke it out
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>>3114445
>Kind of skeevy confession after you've been all over two other people since she confessed to you THIS MORNING
>Trying to emulate cheap romance novels because you have no reference point in your fucked up life for actual, unforced love.
>She somewhat condescendingly tells you she knows you're not legit, but encourages you to try to develop human emotions some day.

Yes. So sappy. Basically a Lifetime Channel movie.
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>>3114383
I wonder if this situation will be better or worse than what happened in Joker quest. If anyone sees Mio, tell her I said hi.

>>3114471
Yuri is a fucking plague and questers are utter morons who lie for their own benefit at every opportunity. Even when they are taking to a known mind reader, it's hilarious.

I hope they completely fuck this up
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>>3114503
The MC is repeatedly proven to be bisexual. How does it feel to be more autistic than yurifags pushing for lesbian romance with a straight mc? Get bent, nerd.
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>>3114515
What are you talking about? How does anything you said disprove or demerit anything I said? Sofia being bisexual doesn't suddenly make Adriana not a mind reader knowing exactly what happened today, nor does it make any of you less stupid for jumping this gun.

Did it even occur to you that maybe we could've let this go for the moment and work on a solution to the problem first? You know, so she'd be able to see how genuine you were?

Or perhaps sort through the crap with Maccio first but I guess what we all need and crave is a completely preventable love triangle drama. I can only hope that he'll take it well and that it doesn't fuck Sofia up more than she already is.

Nah just call me autistic. You keep on trucking and continue to attempt to lie and cheat the mind reader who is, or have, become emotionally dependent on us.
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>>3114503
I'm sure we'd do this with male waifus too. I'd still be annoyed at it, though.

>>3114534
>Love triangle
This is definitely more than a triangle.
>Maccio
>Leonarda
>Sabino
>Adriana
>Gloriana
Clearly, Adriana and Gloriana are winning, but I have faith in Sabino. I have no faith in Maccio, he really needs to get his ass in gear. Leonarda is a non-entity nowathreads, and hopefully she stays that way, but she was a contender in the earlier threads.
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>>3114539
>Gloriana winning
What?
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>>3114543
First and second base.
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>>3114546
I hope you don't really think that molesting someone means winning romantically
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>>3114539
>male waifus

Excuse you, husbandos.
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>>3114314
>Talk to Gloriana.
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>>3114557
>I hope you don't really think that molesting someone means winning romantically
It's a tangible form of success!
>>
Ah finally, the tie has broken! Vote called, writing.
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I really hope Ouro will have less flirting around options to tempt idiots after Sofia made that declaration to try. As in from now on she tries to be a better person and make it work with Adriana. I'm not even the biggest fan of her but our word should be our word.
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>>3114568
>I'm not even the biggest fan of her but our word should be our word.
Damn it, but you're correct. I'll vote towards
trying with Adrian even though I don't actually like her. Hopefully we break up in a way that isn't just the normal 'questers go looking for more waifus, cheat, hurt the girl we professed our love to'.
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>>3114572
>I'll vote towards trying with Adrian even though I don't actually like her.
Be proud. That makes you more mature than most players here and in other quests.
>>
How long do you want to wait and limit our options for a woman that will kill us just by being too close?
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>>3114580
I've noticed several times anons voting in a "the option's there so QM will make it work somehow" style.

I don't think Ouro does this.
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>>3114580
Talking to Juicy about it is a start. This isn't about waiting for something to come out of the sky but actively looking for a solution.
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>>3114584
Our godmother hasn't even been able to remove our birthright which she applied herself, what's she gonna do about licenses issued by better lawyers with more authority than her?
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>Talk to Gloriana.

You sidle a bit closer to where Gloriana and Giuseppina are staring each other down over their glasses. Giuseppina has shrugged out of her usual oversized coat and has left it hanging on the seat beside her. For some strange reason, you doubt anyone will try to steal it. Just a hunch.

“I don’t norm’lly drink wine,” Gloriana says, her words beginning to melt together.

“You drink it well,” your godmother replies. Her diction is as inhumanly as perfect as ever but her face is starting to flush. “But I’m afraid you lost the moment you challenged me!”

“You reckon? How old are you?”

“Eh?”

“You look young but I don’t buy it. I can tell a withered old crone from a mile away, no matter what skin they wear.”

“You’re trying to get under my skin.”

“Is it working?”

“Hah! As if it could! I don’t have a single care to give for age, it’s mutable.”

“Th’n why’re you going to so much trouble to look young?”

“..Oh shut up. You don’t know a single thing about me.”

“But I know when I’m right! You’re Sophie’s fairy godmother right?”

“What’s a fairy?”

“Oh it’s just a Lower Realms word, don’t worry about it.”

“You mean a Lesser Realms word. Where did you pick it up from?”

“My mother.”

“Oh.” A slimy smile spreads over Giuseppina’s face. “My condolences.”

“Shut the fuck up!”

“Is something wrong?”

“I dunno Juicy, is something wrong with an old woman who obsessively follows girls less than half her age around all day in the guise of being their ‘godmother’? Just fess up already and admit it! You want a piece.”

Giuseppina looks genuinely uncomfortable.
“You are an awful little troglodyte of a person. I didn’t give you permission to call me Juicy!”

At this point you decide to intervene, sliding in between them. You’d don’t know what kind of disaster zone a clash between Gloriana and Giuseppina would be but you have no desire to experience it today.
“Maybe the drinking contest doesn’t need trash-talking,” you say, confident that neither of them will be able to reprimand you.

“FiFi,” cries Giuseppina, your godmother sounding as if she is about to burst into tears at your presence. “Don’t listen to her! I would never have such filthy intentions towards-”

“Relax,” you say. “I know. She’s just stirring your shit, godmother. It’s what she loves to do and she’ll say anything to do it. So why don’t you go take a walk, introduce yourself to some of the other clients, I’m sure they’d love to buy you a drink. Let me handle Gloriana while you calm down.”

1/2
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>>3114591

Giuseppina oozes off, leaving her coat behind but keeping the cursed wineglass in her hand. You take her seat and as you do so, Gloriana leans back with a smirk on her face.
“Your godmother is fucking hard to read, Sophie.”

“You shouldn’t have said that. She cares about me a lot, in her own weird way. You implying shit like that while she’s drunk is just going to make her upset.”

“True. But I won the contest! Technically.”


>”Why do you choose to be like this?”

>Ask about her mother, since she just brought her up.

>”What’s it like, being a mafia princess?”

>Tell her about the wineglass.

>”If it wasn’t for her you’d be spending the rest of your life down my shirt so maybe you could just not?”

>"I'm still waiting on that apology."

>”Do you know anything about how love is supposed to work?” You don’t know what you’re supposed to do with Adriana.

>”Look, about what i did earlier. Way earlier. With the uh, stuff. You need to know that I didn’t mean any of it. Don’t get the wrong idea.”

>Crush her.

>Other (Specify)
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>>3114590
Adriana's mindreading ability is not lawyer-granted, it's an acquired skill. All the lawyers did is acknowledge her as a single person.
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>>3114592
>Giuseppina oozes off, leaving her coat behind but keeping the cursed wineglass in her hand. You take her seat and as you do so, Gloriana leans back with a smirk on her face.
And this is why we should have stolen the glass.
>>
Sorry guys I know I wanted to finish the thread today but I really need to sleep. The reason I've been so slow is because all through today and yesterday I've had nasty pain up through my thumb and wrist.
Vote will remain open until I wake.
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>>3114592
>>”Why do you choose to be like this?”
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>>3114592
>"I'm still waiting on that apology."
>”Why do you choose to be like this?”
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>>3114592
>”What’s it like, being a mafia princess?”
>”Do you know anything about how love is supposed to work?” You don’t know what you’re supposed to do with Adriana.

>>3114590
Less her doing something about it and more getting ideas.
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>>3114592
>Ask about her mother
>Ask about the mafia princess life
>Tell her your godmother is a lawyer and the cause of your birthright, and the glass she's drinking from used to be a person so maybe cool it a bit.

>>3114593
Yes, and also declare anywhere she existed was her. If she can't help but read our mind she's gonna absorb us.
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>>3114592
>Ask about her mother, since she just brought her up.

>”Do you know anything about how love is supposed to work?” You don’t know what you’re supposed to do with Adriana.
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>>3114603
Undeclaring that will break Adriana's mind
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>>3114603
>>3114593
Wait a minute... That card...

But seriously, if it's a skill that means we can learn it and maybe, just maybe two mind readers will cancel each other out? Kinda like Handprint?
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>>3114611
Or maybe their minds will combine into an unholy mess.
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>>3114612
Still I think it's worth trying to see what skills we can gain from Adriana sometime. It might hold the key to this.
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>>3114610
Right, so even if Giu could do something we wouldn't want her to.

>>3114612
Even if we both read each others minds, Adriana is still the only one who has the High Law that makes her assimilate people by doing it. It's why when the handprint tries to infect her it just gets eaten.
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>>3114614
>>3114611
As someone who can learn skills 7 times as fast as anyone, she has the largest library of skills and self-synergies for us to loot and plunder.

But getting into someone's head is her most magical ability, and by itself it's not super powerful due to the time and focus constraints.

As for whether us getting it will help: No. Sofia getting into her head will just make the law turn sofia into her.
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>>3114614
>Still I think it's worth trying to see what skills we can gain from Adriana sometime. It might hold the key to this.
I think mindreading is too powerful a cheat code to want to have in a game. Even so, I'd love to pick her brains.

>>3114592
>”Look, about what i did earlier. Way earlier. With the uh, stuff. You need to know that I didn’t mean any of it. Don’t get the wrong idea.”
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>>3114614
Gaining some homesteading skills would be useful for Sophia.
I just hope you don't intend to use the person you've promised yourself to as a levelup farm.
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>>3114622
Not my intention. I just want to see if we can figure out the intimacy issue, not MegaMan everything she has.
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>>3114393
>>3114411

I think his point was Ouro said he does not DO Harems. The fact anons are trying to think that way is going to bite them in the ass.

Also anons are horn dogs who vote on their base instincts and are generally shit heads to everyone. These are the same people that decided to nuke a city just to make their life easier.
>>3114539
…. I honestly do not know what to say.


>>3114568
Nope. Ouro does not work that way, he's going to give us more than enough rope to hang ourselves. It's what he did in snakecatcher, what he did in Lamp lighter, and what he does in duels. he's not going to go easy on us because three fourths of the player base is retarded.

>>3114582
He doesn't. He puts in trap and stupid options that are in character but stupid ideas. Anons still vote for them despite knowing he'll screw them for it.

>>3114584
Given how important Adrianna is to combatting the hand I doubt she's going to e able to even do anything to her.


>>3114611
>>3114612
>>3114621
It's a matter of high law that anything poking Adrianna's mind gets eaten. mind reading her would be like trying to poke a black hole.

>>3114592
>”Why do you choose to be like this?”
>Tell her about the wineglass.
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>>3114534
This is actually what I wanted. Try to get rid of her ability to kill people so she can be friends with others first before we went for a relationship.
This is unfair to Adriana. Which is why I proposed to only accept her apologies.
I got drowned out in the vote, and we ended up in a potentially ugly situation.

Also, all those votes for 'lick' and the troll option being available about 3 times means that unless new voters are informed we are already in a relationship, there's a good chance in the future that it will be chosen and we will screw up our relationship and hurt Adriana.
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>>3114592

>Ask about her mother, since she just brought her up.
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>>3114642
No offense friend, but Ouro is not going to stop this.
It's not his style. He has frequently given players options that could screw them over if they were not paying attention, and will absolutely do so.
He's not going to treat us with kid gloves because a large portion of the voters are either retards or trolls or simply new. If the players vote for sofia to do something stupid, she'll do something stupid and fuck her over.
Also commonly options that get lots of votes but do not win typically show up again, if they are still feasible.
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>>3114642
Yeah, hopefully we'll have another opportunity to let her down gently in the future. Too bad I was sleeping or I woulda backed you up. Blame Ouro for running at 4 am.
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>>3114650
Doesn't that mean he is setting up his quest in a place that will guarantee something stupid will happen. His quest works best if done in a forum where players are clearly identified and take responsibility for their action rather than anonymous board where any can join and vote maliciously or ignorantly if they are inclined to.
This is especially true during duels, the continual loss of institutional knowledge or absence of it will be particularly terrible.
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>>3114655
>Doesn't that mean he is setting up his quest in a place that will guarantee something stupid will happen.
No. He just refuses to kid gloves us. It isn't his fault gibbering retards play his quest.
>His quest works best if done in a forum where players are clearly identified and take responsibility for their action rather than anonymous board where any can join and vote maliciously or ignorantly if they are inclined to.
You are not wrong, but he expects his player base to be consistent. Which for the most part they are. Consistently stupid and consistently act like children.
>This is especially true during duels, the continual loss of institutional knowledge or absence of it will be particularly terrible.
Yeah, sadly that's on us, not him.
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>>3114653
Same here.

>>3114662
When stupid decisions fuck the MC over, the retards who voted for them usually go "I enjoy your tears" and "Let the salt flow". It's the ones invested in the quest who are punished instead.
Case in point - the Starfall.
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>>3114667
TRue. But they were samefagging it anyways. Basically it was inevitable trolls try to fuck us over.
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>>3114596
Hey Ouro, does body tailoring stop you from aging?
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There also an ugly element of emotional dependency that Adriana has for Sofia.
It's like with Eduardo who basically used her for his purposes. We could probably ask anything of Adriana, even if she didn't like to do it, and she will do it for us.
Because she's so desperate for human friendship, human relationship that doesn't consist of people leaving her the moment they learn her secret. People who don't think automatically she's a monster.
We are like her. We have something that makes us pretty damn monstrous, if we chose to. We have chosen not to, we try to be noble.
I still don't understand how the hell Sofia didn't develop into a sociopath, our powers basically set her up to be completely unempathic and lacking in remorse.
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>>3114695
Most likely when she realized that her parents only wanted her to marry off to some noble house. That would be the likely point when she realized what it's like to be treated like a thing, and how it's wrong for her to do it to others.
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>>3114592
>>Ask about her mother, since she just brought her up.
I want that sweet, sweet lore
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>>3114592
>”Why do you choose to be like this?”
>Ask about her mother, since she just brought her up.
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I think you guys are a bit cynical with my intentions here!

Anyway, vote called and writing.
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>>3115273
>I think you guys are a bit cynical with my intentions here!
We've been hurt before!
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>>3115273
Can you blame them?
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>>3115296
>>3115299
No I wouldn't blame him for something players voting for something stupid. If he always includes a 'stupid' option in all his quests and a majority anons grab that option with two fists, it's on us.
The only thing that makes me feel better about such a situation is solely that I don't want to vote for it and protested if they take it.
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>>3115325
I'm not blaming him, but he will always give rope to hang ourselves with that's for sure and this crowd is divisive and occasionally petty to say the least.

The perfect storm
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>>3115325
I wouldn't take on myself the responsibility for how other people vote, and you shouldn't as well.
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>>3115381
You still gotta deal with the fallout and how it impacts the character which always sucks.

And right now we have to hope the players can keep Sofia's word for trying to be a good partner for a character not everyone likes. It's going to be rough.
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>>3115498
>You still gotta deal with the fallout and how it impacts the character which always sucks.
This. Not only do MCs make promises and not keep them, they make /heartfelt/ promises, and not keeping promises that /matter/ to the character warps the characterization. What the character wants and chooses and says doesn't matter anymore, because no matter how much they mean it, they'll change their mind or break their word the moment the questers change their interest.

Admitted, we might be making too much of a big deal out of the Adriana promise. Maybe we were really just affected by her love to us, transmitted through her mental connection.
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>>3115523
>Maybe we were really just affected by her love to us, transmitted through her mental connection.

I can argue that mentality is an attempt to weasel out if the promise.

But I think you're partially right, but based on her thoughts throughout the day away from Adriana there is some genuine affection.

Mind meme magic making everything complicated
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>Ask about her mother, since she just brought her up.

You take another sip of wine and buoyed on by drink, you ask the next question.
“So what’s the deal with your mother anyway?”

Gloriana blinks, clearly taken aback.
“What? What’s this got to do with anything?”

“It’s not the first time you’ve brought her up. And I’m curious. You say you’re the daughter of the boss of the Morello Family but that your mama is foreign. Why wouldn’t I want to know about that?”
You ask with the easy confidence of someone who knows they cannot be refused.

“Of course I’ll tell you, Sophie. You’re so amazing. I’d tell someone like you anything.”

“I know. But you’re dodging the question. Look, if you don’t want to then just don’t say anything. I’ll get it.”

“Nah.S’fine. But I guess it’s no surprise that a piece of gutter scum like me is half-blood. Mama came here on a boat.”

“No shit. Pretty much all foreigners do.”

“Right, right, right. But I don’t mean official-like. She’d stowed away on a merchant ship, hidden in the cargo. She’d come here hoping for a better life.”
Gloriana laughs bitterly.
“Didn’t work out that way ob’v’sly.”

“What happened?”

“I don’t think you’d get it. This place is weird, Sophie, especially to foreigners. There’s a lot of stuff we all take for granted that mama just couldn’t deal with. And it’s like...like being high on humours. All the time. Something in the air or the water or just everything. She said that back when she was a girl, she’d been told, you know? Told that good girls don’t play with fairies and that if they do...you can’t drink or eat anything they give you. But mama wasn’t a good girl.”

“And she met your father at some point, I assume.”

“Later. He found her walking the street. She couldn’t live here, everything was like a bad dream that never ended. She never built up a tolerance and she’d gotten sick. And papa was pretty important, y’know? He was s-sotto capo. Underboss. An’ he took a liking to some addled whore.”

“Aw, that sounds romantic.”

“I ‘spose. Take another drink. Good. Mama never got better. But he had a room made where she could live. Sealed up all tight, special food and drink, no art. She hated the pictures here. No mirrors either. Everything all foreign like. I was born in that room.”

“That was sweet of him.”

“It fucking sucked!”

“Oh.”

“I don’ remember any of this but papa says that when they carried me out of the room, I started to scream and cough. Mama was weak, weaker than normal for foreigners I guess and she’d passed it down to me. I had to live in that room with her. But it was ...alright. She was mostly lucid most of th’ time and she taught me a lot.”

“Really? But you’re fine now right?”

1/2
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>>3115545
“I’m never fine. Certainly not as fine as you...you...you you.”
You wonder just how much your curse is changing all of this.
“But yeah I got used to it eventually. But I remember being a little girl and opening the big metal shutters. Just looking out the window made me barf. So it was just me and mama and I think she would have been fine with that. But papa didn’t want me in there forever, he wanted me to be a proper City-girl. He and mana didn’t get along anymore. But you’re right! I’m fine now. I got all accustomed and now I’m just as fae as anyone.”
For some reason she finds that statement reason to drain her entire glass and pour another with shaking hand.

“Then what?”

Gloriana stays silent. You take the hint and stop pressing. Instead you take a drink yourself.

*****

In the end, you wind up getting pretty drunk but not as bad as Gloriana or Giuseppina do. Giuseppina eventually settled at the table of the friends of her new wineglass, where she sat for the following hour as if daring them to say anything to do about it. By the next time you look over, she’s making out with one of them.

She eventually comes over to rejoin the two of you, her blouse unbuttoned and her feet drifting off the ground. Giuseppina is a lawless drunk, by which you mean laws stop applying to her. Both the laws of the City and the laws of the world.
“You two look like sad bitches,” she says, her speech as perfect as ever. “Be happy! Especially you, FiFi. Your godmother is taking some people home tonight.”

“That’s not a good idea,” you say.

“Sure it is. You know what else I was told wasn’t a good idea? You. And here we are.”

You try not to flinch away, unaccustomed to being spoken to so rudely.

“I think they have a plan,” your godmother continues. “Trying to seduce me so that I give their friend back. Well...I’ll take it! Don’t tell them that they’re going to get their friend back anyway.”

“You’re...you’re not going to do anything weird to them, are you?”

“I’m allowed to have sex, FiFi! And no! They’ll be free to leave my house whenever they want, as long as they can make it out through the labyrinth.”
You’ve never visited Giuseppina’s house, despite the fact that with her master key, it’s never more than one door away at any time. You’re not sure if you want to.

“Have fun. I need to do something with this bitch.”
You gesture at Gloriana, whose head is slumped onto the table and is gently snoring. You can’t just leave her here.


>You can, in fact, leave her here.

>Take her back to her home, if you can find it.

>She can stay at your place until she wakes.

>Take her over to a friend’s place.

>Other (Specify)
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sleeping
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>>3115533
>I can argue that mentality is an attempt to weasel out if the promise.
Laying the groundwork for breaking up.

>>3115533
>but based on her thoughts throughout the day away from Adriana there is some genuine affection.
Definitely, yes. She kept wanting to be in Adriana's boobs instead.>>3115545
>Told that good girls don’t play with fairies and that if they do...you can’t drink or eat anything they give you.
Holy shit.

>>3115550
>“I’m never fine. Certainly not as fine as you...you...you you.”
Hm. She does seem a bit energetic all the time, but not outside the bounds of norma- yeah okay.
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Help, how do you platonically bring someone home
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>>3115550
>She can stay at your place until she wakes.
Platonically please. Don't make it weird. Let her crash on the couch... do we have a couch.

>>3115561
The same way you do when you're bro drank too much to drive himself home.
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>>3115545
>>3115550
Yep, Gloriana's life was as fucked up as expected.
Still not a reason to become an asshole, you bitch.

>>3115550
>Take her back to her home, if you can find it.
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>>3115550
>She can stay at your place until she wakes.
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>>3115550
>>3115561
>Help, how do you platonically bring someone home

>She can stay at your place until she wakes.
>Draw a mustache on her.
Nailed it.
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>>3115550
>>She can stay at your place until she wakes.
Please say we have a couch... also we should try to keep our puzzles away from Gloriana. THe mirror is already covered up, so it shouldn't be a problem
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>>3115550
>>She can stay at your place until she wakes.

I like how we are actually fae to the Lower Realms
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>>3115570
I don't think she became one by choice, is the problem. It seems like the choice for her was either 'stay locked up and relatively sane' or 'leave the room and go completely bonkers just to survive'.
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>>3115590
>THe mirror is already covered up, so it shouldn't be a problem
>implying she won't root around our apartment, creating a berserk Gloriana reflection to help our own bang Sabino
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>>3115605
Can people even leave the city once they arrive here? We have merchants who come here, I'm surprised her mother didn't finagle a way out once she arrived here. Or perhaps it was too difficult once she passed a certain point in time. She too had become 'fae' and the lower realms were going burn her as a witch if she dared to return.
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>>3115618
I think it was more that she was losing her mind and couldn't be very lucid until Gloriana's father found her.
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>>3115618
>Nah, from what was told, she basically started losing it.

>>3115622 has the right of it. She tried to go among mad people, thinking she could acclimate, and she failed to do so, so instead of being Fae-style mad, she just lost her mind partially.

Gloriana's father wanted her to be part of the city, so her pushed her out (checked the story again) of the room, and forced the issue. And as said, it seems like she basically had to sacrifice SOME of her sanity to retain the MAJORITY of it as opposed to losing all of it.
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>>3114637
I was the first person to argue for dropping the satellite after it was first proposed... You know, as a joke. For fun, since some people took it seriously enough they were one post away from threatening to kill my dog. Then it took so long for the next thread that I haven't even read it or the rest of lamplighter, and you're telling me that they /actually/ did it?

What do I do now, apologise? I wasn't even around to vote for it. Maybe I should just feel proud and go ahead and read what havoc I wrought
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>>3115657
Rule 1 of Questing: Never vote (or if you're a QM, give an option) as a joke, because the vast majority of players will pick it.
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It wasn't a joke, people just thought it was too cool not to vote for. And when it was argued to be ineffective, people thought it would be effective /enough/.
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>>3115657
Top 10 pranks that went too far
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I'll read it eventually, but I am curious as to just what that whole event was in Lamplighter and what led up to it. I read that quest up until we got to Dis, or were about to reach it.
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>>3115273
No, you just smack us when we're being stupid.

Because of that I am cynical of other players, doubly so of the ones who want to take the stupid options just to troll, because they get bandwagoners.

And I apologize to those who were upset at me spoiling. I just don't see much point trying to not spoil a quest that never finished and that has been dead for a while now.

Be kinda like getting mad at someone for spoiling a movie you're watching a sequal of.
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>>3115834
Just to be clear, you didn't delete all that yeah? A janitor actually existed?
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Remember that time one extremely salty anon shoved a bunch of hot opinions into Ouro's mouth and spoiled the pseudo-ending to an entire quest?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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>>3115843
Yeah. Got a temp ban and everything for it.
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>>3115834
>Be kinda like getting mad at someone for spoiling a movie you're watching a sequal of.
This isn't a sequel. There is nothing in this quest that depends on knowledge of previous quests. In other words, when people can go read a quest without spoilers, don't spoil it for them. The fact that you think it's dead- It's just sleeping- and the fact that you're bitter about it- other people might enjoy it- shouldn't allow you to spoil half a dozen plot twists.


Wow, a real live janitor. Maybe we could actually get a mod! And then a board banner!
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>>3115865
>This isn't a sequel.
It is. It's the next book in the Author's writing.

As for it just sleeping ouro outright said he had no interest in continuing it. So it's well and truly dead.


>Maybe we could actually get a mod! And then a board banner!
Maybe, hell Lamplighter might come back too!
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>>3115856
Probably the first ban on the board this year, too. Not bad.

>>3115865
I wonder how often posts get reported, and how few of them need to be dealt with. With the nature and necessity of hot arguments, and the fact the qm can always choose to ignore at their leisure it can't be easy to determine when to step in. Spoilers must be the only thing they can take action against without fucking things up
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>>3115881
I got banned for complaining, not spoiling.

Just as a clarifier
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>>3115889
Well you did do both. Maybe because it had a shorter duration?

On an unrelated note, this thread is so long now it's fucking up both in my browser and on my phone. I'm gonna take my leave now
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>>3115902
Yeah it's getting rough on mine too. Ouro either needs to finish soon or make a new one.
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>>3115902
I didn't even know threads could have more than 1000 replies, they usually start removing the earlier ones once 999 is reached right?. Then again my only experience with it is contentious /co/ talkbacks, maybe it's a per-board setting or something.
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>>3115657
Congrats, you completely destroyed a quest with your option and the salt the flowed afterwards. That is very impressive, especially you never rejoined or gone back to see the aftermath.
I'm not even joking, joke options like that don't usually have such severe consequences.
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>>3115932
What you're talking about is called a rolling sticky. Threads with many posts in them are huge and load very slowly, so they are limited to 1k posts.
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>>3115657
Holy crap. I can't believe it.
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>>3115932
There is no post limit in reads, they are limited by new threads bumping them off. Qst is slow with few new threads so it's not hard to reach these figures. A long, long time ago threads were "marked for deletion: old" to keep things fresh, back in the day when threads on /b/ could last over a week
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>>3115870
>As for it just sleeping ouro outright said he had no interest in continuing it. So it's well and truly dead.

I specifically said the opposite. In fact, I was planning to announce LL returning in January. Don't put words in my mouth to win arguments.

Anyway, I'm feeling a bit better now. Vote called and writing.
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>>3116687
I remember you saying otherwise, but I am likely mistaken. Apologies for that.
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>She can stay at your place until she wakes.

You leave Giuseppina to enjoy her newfound harem as you shoulder Gloriana’s semi-conscious body and start walking her out the door. She wakes up once you’re out on the busy canal but she’s still too incoherent to do anything about it save lean on you and go where you go.
“Where we goin’?” she mumbles.

“I’ve got a place you can sleep,” you reply, keeping her upright.

The sun is only just now beginning to set and the two of you are wandering the streets already drunk, swords hanging visibly at your sides. You probably make a sorry sight but who exactly will tell you so? You move with the freedom of the cursed.

“‘Aight.”
Gloriana is, you realise with some surprise, a rather mellow drunk. There’s no bitterness or barbs left for you.

*****

You don’t have another mattress back home but that’s fine. You’ll sleep on the floor. Your room is a mess as always after all. There’s plenty of padding. You set her down on your bed and as she lies there, you take your coat off and start piling up a small pile of strewn clothes and sheets to lie upon. As you finish up, you turn to see Gloriana staring at you.
“Sophie.”
Her voice is unsteady.

“Yes?”

“I nev’r finished my story.”

“You did.”

“No. Nah. No. Not the last bit.”
She’s still very drunk.

“Why? What is it you wanted to say?”
You’re not sure you should ask. It’s almost certainly nothing a sober Gloriana would want you to know.

“Mama...she didn’t want me back.”

“Huh?”

“After I came back from being a...a..acc...resistant to the City. She threw me out. Call’d me a changeling. A replacement. I wasn’t her baby.”

“Oh.”
What else can you say?

“I never saw her again. She never let me in the room again and eventually she died in there. That’s all.”

You stop.
“Gloriana? Hey, Gloriana? Why would you tell me that?”

But she is already asleep.
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Oh boy, that was a long thread huh? Thank you all for participating so energetically! But the thread is now over and it has been archived and thus can be found in the archives link at the start of the thread.
I hope you all had fun!

A new Court of Swords thread will likely being in about six days. Or possibly two weeks. Either or. Please check the twitter closer to the release date for further information and updates!
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>>3116764
That's really sad.
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>>3116764
Holy fuck.
No wonder she's so messed in the head.
This is the first time I felt a tinge of sympathy for her.

I still find her sudden change of heart after being punched in the face implausible though.
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>>3116767
>Oh boy, that was a long thread huh? Thank you all for participating so energetically! But the thread is now over and it has been archived and thus can be found in the archives link at the start of the thread.
>I hope you all had fun!
This was a very fun thread, Ouro. I enjoyed it immensely.
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>>3116764
You know, that's the kind of backstory you give to some nihilistic, world ending final boss.

I guess a troll who shits on everyone else's fun is preferable. Slightly.
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>>3116770
>I still find her sudden change of heart after being punched in the face implausible though.
That's what happens when Composure is broken. Happened with Sabino and Terenzi.
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I don't regret pushing so hard to spend time with her, and this only makes me want to do it more.
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>>3116770
Gloriana and Sofia don't get along mostly but that doesn't mean she's going to sit there and watch you die. There's a difference between disliking someone and hoping they die.
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>>3116776
>That's what happens when Composure is broken. Happened with Sabino and Terenzi.
I'm not even sure she dislikes us.
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>>3109988
>“We don’t have time,” Donatella says. “Gloriana, you’ve been paid.
Sonuvabitch, Gloriana gets /paid/!?
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>>3110140
>One of these days there will be a quest with a female MC that isn't gay or bi-polygamous
Has there been a quest where anons try to romance a guy?
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>>3116803
She's a professional duelist.

>>3116804
Yes.

>>3116797
Judging by her story she hates everyone in the City.
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>>3116804
I actually normally hate yuri but Gloriana is just so deliciously twisted.
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>>3116810
So why don't SHE leave?
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>>3116957
Because she's dumb and salty probably.
Or maybe her mafia daddy won't let her.
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>>3116804
Yep.
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tl;dr
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>>3116687
Would this question continue afterwards? I like it.
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>>3117007
I think he said he was going to alternate between the two. Dude has inhuman endurance
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>>3117013
Might be good if this is easier to run than lamplighter, which I think Ouro has said puts him under a lot of pressure.
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>>3117040
Can't blame him. LL sounds really... oppressive I guess, specially after I heard the after effects of the starfall.
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>>3116957

Because now she's got the opposite problem. She's used to The City and doesn't know the first place to begin in the Lower Realms.

And there's where the self loathing kicks in.
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>>3116810
>Yes.
>>3116965
>Yep
Okay, so which quests have attempts to romance a guy?
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>>3117527
Hellborn

DB Tuffle

Heavenly Child though it was just a few dates, no one ever 'won' in the end.

Dark Queen kinda but that probably doesn't count cause they are going the bisexual harem route even if the main squeeze is the King

Just a few off the top of my head. I don't play every quest.
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>>3117527
They romance Nathan in dungeon life, but the MC's love life is a bisexual threesome. Again, first girl and first boy syndrome. I forgot her name... Amy?

I think the best one is melancholic quest, where Delilah pursues Lawrence. It's well worth reading and I strongly recommend it to everyone. God knows it deserves more readers.
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>>3117527
Melancholy too, I believe. This conversation comes up fairly often and for as much as people complain about yuri, I think most quests are hetero. As far as I know, XS is the only QM that consistently writes lesbian romance. Otherwise the only time I actually hear about yuri is people complaining it's smut in some no-name quest.

Y'all make mounts out of molehills over things you don't like
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>>3116810
I'm surprised she only hates everyone in the City. If I was put in a situation like that I'd probably go full nhilist or kill myself.
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>>3117569
Well most quests are hetero simply because most have male MCs. But IF a quest has a female MC, and IF there's any romance, it ends up being yuri more often than not in my experience.
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>>3117541
>no one ever 'won' in the end.
we know who won. That cat is getting some loving backrubs.
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We should've crawled inside Gloriana's cunny while we had the chance, boys.



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