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Welcome to A Song of Revenge and Gold: House Malroy Quest. In which you take the reins of a House of storied glorious past since Aegon’s Conquering, but whose fortunes have taken a turn for the worse in the doom that Robert’s Rebellion brought. You are Brynden Malroy, second son to Lord Vamos Malroy and Lady Esemella Hayford and the last living heir to Steadhold and House Malroy. The year is 285AC, two years after the Rebellion and a year after your return to Westeros.

House Malroy is a pre-genned House designed around the idea of a story within the Crownlands of a House fiercely loyal to the Targaryens and their attempts to live in this new world after Robert’s Rebellion. Lord Brynden Malroy is as well pre-genned but will take direction from the players in his ways and how he develops himself further. This Quest will be moderately more story driven than others of its kind, but the development of the House and her lands will take just as much importance.

If you’ve played one of the many Quests within the ASoIaF setting the rules of the SIFRP system should be known. I will be using the Game of Thrones edition, as well as a few of the expansions namely OOSP and a few house rules which will be explained as we come to them. If you have questions about how things work or why certain actions are taken I can explain them as we go along. In truth this is a learning experience for me as well.

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Masterlist:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WiZG5xtDqbQKI31IIbqNb4zTmooivb0Ns_J6EatgWgY/edit?usp=sharing

Twitter:

https://twitter.com/RevengeGoldQM

SIFRP Resources:

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6sar1o14399xv/SIFRP

/tg/ Archive I-L:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=House%20Malroy

/qst/ Archive LI-:

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=House%20Malroy

Ride Unto the Sunset

And now without further ado…
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Day 7, Month VIII - Year 285AC ~ Early Morning

The morning air is crisp upon your bare flesh, the few rays of sunshine that manage to escape the dark cloud cover that had rolled in over the night and threatened thunder and rain warm your face briefly, but it is a fleeting thing. The sky is as dark as your mood, mind still in turmoil over the day prior. Perhaps the trial had gone precisely as you had wished, perhaps it had not. Lord Linden Langward held his composure far longer than you had expected in truth, having regained it soon after realizing what had occurred, before the litany of evidence and those who had bore witness to his sabotage and backroom dealings with the Bright Banners’ Aeror and his whore, Marcelline Sand. The dornish woman had sung like a songbird when she was brought before the court in fetters, her mouth still a ruin from the ratilliations of both Lady Elionwy of Myr and your wife’s, Lady Obella Qorgyle, interrogations thereafter. Her hair was frazzled and her dress a mess of brown and rot, no longer the beautiful woman you had danced with once, thinking she had been Lady Nera Dayne. She told song of Linden’s machinations, his orders to infiltrate your wife’s court, to spy upon your household, and ultimately had been the one who had ordered the hit on your dear friend, Ser Mason Flowers. When she was lead away, her screeching filled the halls, all a ruse you knew but she had played her part. A quick death when you returned to Steadhold, as promised for her confessional. Obella would not like to see it, instead preferring the drawn out torture of the woman, but you had talked her down in the nights before your departure, though the tears in her eyes and the curses she had laid upon the woman still remained in your mind. You hoped to not have to return to such.

Instead now all you could remember is the sneer upon Linden’s face, he had remained steadfast and unfaltering, even as the assembled court whispered and laid eyes upon him with distaste. Lord Redwyne had looked beyond disgusted with the man, yet Lord Tarly and Rowan remained unmoved and so the day continued. You sniffle, rubbing the sleep from your eyes and take a long draw from your cup, a ruddy brown lager, it went down easily enough but still your stomach did not settle. All of these days of pain, anger, and war. Soon they would be not but more than memories, you hoped at least. Your squire yet slept, as did most of the Tourney’s camp-town beneath the walls of Highgarden. Flicking the rest of the liquid from your cup you go over to the young Arron Qorgyle and kick at the foot of his cot.

He groggily looks up at you, “My Lord..?”


“Time to wake squire,” you respond simply.
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He rubs his eyes and sits up upon an elbow before nodding and readying himself, his face a somber tone, as it usually was but even still it looked far more sad, his father was still within a state, the leg was surely broken but your Maester, Benjin, would do well to assure he’d walk again. His uncle, Ser Quellon Qorgyle had been the first to find you after the trial, and thus two were. The trial had gone on long into the afternoon, next you had brought before him the Magister’s cousin, Tano Osten. You had far more use for this craven, the Red Bastard would see his fall from his tongue, stripped of his myrish crossbow and hydra armour he was not much more than a fat squall, but he had proven useful all the same for the day’s proceedings. He had been the imposter of House Dargood, bringing an innocent House into what was truly a war of the Crownlands as a middle man to hire the Bright Banners for Linden in the first place, abusing an old done Knight who had lost it all in the Usurper’s War. The forces of House Dargood had been amongst those you had defeated in the Princewood, you had learned later after Yondril had had his way with the coward. Unfortunate lost sons of the war, it is likely with this trial the House Dargood branch would go extinct, even at best Ser Dargood had been an unwilling participant but you doubted the King nor his Hand would look kindly upon him when the results of this were brought before them. Osten spoke to the dealings across the Narrow Sea, briefly mentioning Magister Tychano Osten before being throttled with a look, eyes that had burned like wildfire bore into his and he swallowed deeply before looking to the floor claiming he had no more to say. Linden for his part kept his tongue, though you could see his lip quiver, his eyes filled with anger and spite. He was close.

The camp had begun to rouse itself the longer you sat, attempting to quell the storm in your gut, was it a nervous reaction you wondered. Truly it had been a long time since you had felt this way, war had its own feeling but this… It was something beyond you. A moment of history you would be a part of. As would others, those close to you, Ser Lucas Longwaters and those who were family no matter how distant, Ser Lucerys Celtigar. And thus you were four.. You scoffed a moment remembering the look of shook and horror upon Linden’s face when the last of your witnesses had entered the court, the badge of House Langly proudly displayed upon his doublet. Ser Lyonel Langly, his cousin, and in truth the Heir of The Tear, a small island and tower to the north of Steadhold within the God’s Eye River. He had come to you upon a spliff in the night, covered in mud and filth, and had been taken prisoner upon announcing himself, albeit a willing one.
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He had been disinherited by his father, Ser Leo Langly, Linden’s uncle, for disagreeing with the course, seeing that Linden’s madness would lead to nowhere but ruin, that what he had planned bordered on all out war with your House that could bring down even the hammer of King Robert in his folly. He had seen the madness of Linden from the beginning, his further descent as you had continued to succeed, first taking Hemgrove, defeating the Bright Banners, winning a marriage, the Archery contest in King’s Landing. He had become obsessed, Lyonel says, that even his original allies had become enemies, whispered about in his sleep and kept a close eye upon. You could see the rage in Linden boiling, but it had been the final sentence of Lyonel’s testament that sent him back into his frothing rage.

“In truth my Lords and Ladies of the Reach,” Lyonel said with a practiced tongue, “My cousin, Lord Linden Langward, cannot reconcile the mere fact that the man he calls a ‘sellsword playing at Lord’ that he detests so very much and yet covets every victory and history he still has to his name despite being laid so low is still the better man in every. Single. Way.”

Lord Linden had nearly jumped from his seat, curses and damning the man who only looked to him impassively before being lead away by Ser Lucas Longwaters. Lord Rowan looked on in horror as the man cursed every god he could think of, Lord Redwyne shaking his head, and Lord Tarly, the head of the three judges barely even gave him a glance before striking the gavel and barking for order within the court. Two Tarly Knights had gone to hold the mad Lord back, his ranting and raving having gone long enough.

“Lord Brynden Malroy,” Lord Tarly called, “Do you have any final statements for the court?”

You arose from you seat, slowly and measured, the words about your mind that landed upon your tongue were fleeting and unthought. In truth it felt like months, years even before you spoke when you finally reached the dais. You lick your lips and scratch at the growth of beard before taking a deep breath.

“No my Lords,” you say simply, “I do not. I believe that all evidence presented and the testimony of many more behind even the good Ser Lyonel Langly is sufficient to prove that this man, Linden Langward is guilty of his crimes.”

The court whispered and the three powerful Lords before you began to confer it was then you reached for the letter upon your breast, brought to you mere moments prior to the trial by Ser Raymun Chelsted under cloak of darkness and flung it upon the floor of the court. Silence soon took over as you spoke again.
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“A letter,” you say plainly, “From my beloved in the Crownlands, the Lady Obella Qorgyle. News from my family. Of my daughter. My son. My uncle. And the fear that has hung upon Steadhold and Blacksaithe since the appearance of several camps of armed man upon our borders. Close to eight hundred, perhaps more. Flying no banner. But yet armed to the teeth. For what purpose, I ask the assembled court and Lord and Lady of the Reach. To threaten a woman, smallfolk, a newborn child while I am away in the Reach? Pursuing a man that deigns to escape justice for his transgressions. I will admit, I am not a learned man, to read and write were beyond me just a year ago, but yet I am no fool. When an army lands upon ones border flying no flag, armed and dangerous while its Lord is away that can only speak to one thing. The madness of a craven seeking to pull myself down with him in his folly.”

You pause, flashing eyes aflame with green wildfire, at the Lord Linden Langward who looks ready to draw his blade now save for the two Knights holding him back.

“Lord Linden Langward is guilty. And I shall be damned by the Seven myself if I do not see him brought to justice.”

The court remains quiet, for a heartbeat and half, before Linden spits, it landing beyond you, his voice is ragged from the cursing and outbursts but yet he speaks, “I demand a trial by combat.”

The court comes alive again and a smirk ever so slightly, so shall it be you think to yourself but are cut short when he continues.

“And not a mere trial by combat. I demand a Trial by Seven, so that they may damn this sellsword who plays at Lord as he so wishes.”

The court explodes into an uproar, you were left speechless even, blinking slightly the smirk upon your lips fading as you look to the three judges who are as befuddled than you are. It had been years, decades even since the last Trail by Seven, an event rare even within the times before of Targaryen Kings. Lord Tarly attempts to bring the court to order again to little avail but it is not before a roaring Lord Mace Tyrell enters the room that they silence fully. You hadn’t expected to see him, his son and heir Ser Willas Tyrell being in the state that he was after jousting the Red Viper himself, Prince Oberyn Martell. He looked a man racked by guilt and anger but despite this he took his place before the assembled courts.

“We have heard enough this day,” he draws in a tone far beyond the jovial lackadaisical one you had heard before, “Lord Brynden Malroy, do you accept?”

Without a thought you respond, “I do, my Lord.”

“Then upon the morrow,” he booms, “This court is dismissed. Lord Tarly take Lord Linden into your custody so he may not seek to escape once more. Now begone, you all. So that a man may mourn for his son with some measure of peace within these bloody halls.”
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The tap upon your shoulder brought you back to the day, Arron holding your arming doublet, “My Lord?” he asks holding it out to you.

You nod solemnly, allowing your squire to help you dress. His hands are deft and well practiced you watch, even despite the own turmoil within his heart. You sigh, thinking of those things yet unsaid and done. What if the worst was to come. Ser Raymun Chelsted had offered his sword to you, a man with three sons in Blacksaithe, and a wife. The two of you had shared a drink and thus you were five. He had much to lose, and the thought put your own mortality into question. A daughter was your heir, Lorelei in all her bubbly beauty, and your wife was a dornishwoman within the middle of the Crownlands. Mason being by her side was a welcomed relief, Acolyte Ashby had mentioned in the letter that they had enacted your failsafe plan, landing your own friend within the Blackbridge Tower, but should the worst come to pass? You look at your sword, new and shiny unlike the battered mess of your sellsword days, beside it sat another. That of your cousin, Ser Wesley Hayford. He had found you late at night and had thrown it at your feet in a rage.

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“YOU HAVE NO RIGHT!” he screamed at you, his curls of blonde hair held down with sweat.

“Wesley-”

“They are my family too Brynden!” he continues, tears in his eyes, “I’ve just as much right to fight for them as you. Or do you forget your mother is my aunt. Your sister, my cousin. My brother who died for rot of the mind. Your brothers, more cousins, who died by the Red Bastard’s own hands. You do not get to dictate to whom and when I give my sword Brynden.”

“Wesley, think of your father. Your wife,” you attempt to reason with him, “He is in such a state that could you imagine what would occur should he lose another son. And your wife, the Lady Brune, heavy with child yes but all the same what is that child to do if he had no father?”

“And do you not think the same for yourself Brynden!” he barks back, “Despite your daughter, your family being just as much on the brink as my own you fight. You war. And you do not falter or stop to think of the repercussions should you die. Ser Lucas fights for you, though his new wife is surely heavy with child as well and yet he was amongst the first. I’ve seen the things you’ve done, noticed that you’ve attempted to keep me from the frontlines for benefit of my father. So that I may live. But that is not the man I wish to be Brynden. Fighting on the sidelines for a cause, a war that is just as much mine as it is yours.”
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You stare at him, almost blindsided by his fury, his wroth. Perhaps it had been true, rare did you stop to think of your own life as something at risk. Years of fighting for the Second Sons, now for your House. And yet you lived. Not to think you were immortal no, war had taken its blood price surely. But not you life. You are at a loss for words in the face of your cousin, the last Heir of Hayford.

He draws his sword and flings it before your feet with a thud, “Find me upon the morrow Brynden. I will be ready to fight. But if you are unwilling to look past your own hypocrisy than I will see to it you no longer need to ‘take care of me’.”

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Your half-plate armour feels heavy upon your shoulders, aiding your squire you tighten the last of the buckles and strap your swordbelt onto your side. Perhaps it was more the weight of what was to come, of the world that you may leave behind that weighed so heavily upon your shoulders. In truth you could not be certain of it. Mind too focused upon the task at hand. Your usually easy smile was nowhere to be seen, replaced by the seriousness of a man. The eager overconfidence of youth washed away by a sea of reality. You wished to be home, to hold your daughter. To ruffle your son’s hair. Kiss your wife and embrace in the sweet passions of lust and love. Sighing heavily again you dismiss Arron as you idly play with the two silver rings upon your pinky finger watching the camp come to life fully in the early hours of the morning. With the last of your patience for idle thought gone you push off, to find your horse and garb him for the day’s labors.

Goldsong stamps at the ground and snorts heavily at you as you dress him for what was to come.

“I know old friend,” you respond in a soothing tone, “One last battle. One last charge into war. And then retirement.”

You laugh, when he shakes his head, bucking at your attempt to place the bit into his mouth, “No not for me. But for you yes. Perhaps some days about the mares and your own sons will do something to temper your attitude.”

Goldsong snorts again, allowing you to place the bit in his mouth as you stroke his face and scratch behind his ear.

“Seven be good if I had half the luck with mine own,” Lucas Longwaters calls from behind you, the two of you embrace briefly and sharing a laugh, though small and fleeting as it was. He’s in his full plate, the onyx black with gold trimmings you had outfitted the Knights of your Household with and of whom he was the Captain of. The newly made Ser Grant Conklyn stands behind him, holding his horse by the reigns, still tending to his former teacher as a proper squire until he left Highgarden and returned home to assume his place as his father’s heir after the Tourney was done.

“You’d think a fellow Valyrian would have little issues with those of his ancestral home,” you taunt back.
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Well this is a blast from the past
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Lucas scoffs, “Those damnable beasts know I’m less than half the Valyrian you are. Though I’m sure my father would have appreciated being recognized as such.”

“You’d do him proud,” you respond offhandedly, returning to your task of tack.

Lucas looks past you, clearly a thought upon the Knight’s mind, a rare thing for him to be at a loss of his own words, “Racheal… She…” he sighs deeply, “She spent the better part of the morning in tears. Came to see her brother compete, to watch her husband show a Reachman or two his prowess. Not to see him off to war again. I… I didn’t know how to respond. If it is war we go to again than it is my duty, Brynden, but still, those are not words you use to quell a woman’s fears, her sadness, her sorrow. I promised to live. To see our child has a father and her a love. It felt empty to me.”

“But perhaps victory will,” you say after a pause, “Obella was much the same. I made her promise to return to her. To our daughter. I intend to keep it Ser Lucas. Do you not intend to keep your own?”

“I-” he scoffs again, running a mailed hand through his hair, “Aye I do Brynden.”

Turning you place a hand on his shoulder, “Than we shall Ser Lucas. But I’ve more to do before such,” you say, tracing Wesley’s pommel with your thumb. Lucas looks down and gives you a nod. Knowing it was not his place for opinion.

“May the Warrior guide our hands today Brynden,” he says.

“Seven hells Lucas,” you respond quickly having mounted Goldsong, “You sound like my uncle.”

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The morning had remained dark, the clouds threatened to rain at any point, you had hoped not for it. But perhaps the gods were fickle and thought such a dark day deserved such things. A crowd of no small comparison had gathered, their murmurs far beyond you now. Lords and Ladies, noble and small, from the far North to the tip of the broken arm of Dorne, every man and woman of every walk of life had attended. An event of historical proportions. Or so everyone kept saying. You wished for your bow as Arron Qorgyle helps you heft your war lance into your arm, but the Reach would not allow for such things. Trials by Combat being as much a place of honor as their Tourneys, let alone one that called upon the full aspects of the Seven to ordain a winner and justice that be served.
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He is RISEN!!

1st for Giselle!!
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The crowd begins to roar to life as you dig your spurs into Goldsong, one last time for the old boy and he trots out into clear view, six men following behind you. And across the way seven more had emerged to a likewise similar reaction. Amongst the common folk this was no battle of good versus evil, it was an event like any other, bloodsport to fuel their songs and stories for lifetimes. Amongst the nobility a more somber and sober tone had taken hold, your eyes scan across those that you would call allies, the Conklyns and Hunts, your own household and Knights who would have died for you but were the last amongst your Seven to be chosen. The dornish congregation is now split you noticed, perhaps a sign of things to come when you similarly notice the colors of House Yronwood and Drinkwater amongst Linden’s chosen champions. You quickly see the arms of House Hightower, assumedly Gerion Hightower that killed your man during the Melee, and that of House Lantell, Cardyn Lantell the man that broken Lord Quentyn Qorgyle’s leg with a ‘misplaced’ lance to his horse’s neck. You almost laugh when you see the Vyrwel’s colors, Hyle Vyrwel had apparently taken his grudge with you ‘dishonoring’ his sister to some extreme lengths and Seven be good he had lined up across from you, perhaps he had requested the first pass at you in return for helping champion Linden’s cause. Lastly is Lord Linden Langward himself and Ser Leo Langly round out his seven, two heads of household and the major power behind the Red Bastard’s allies.

Looking across you own champions you find yourself filled with pride rather than fear, your turmoil quells and quiets, these men were the best of your friends and family, close allies and those that would call you more than the sellsword playing at Lord. Amongst your Champions were Ser Lucas Longwaters, Ser Raymun Chelsted, Ser Quellon Qorgyle, Ser Lucerys Celtigar and to your left…

Did you decide to allow Ser Wesley Hayford to be one of your Seven Champions?
>Yay
>Neigh

You tighten your grip, feeling the rings upon your hand. And to your right…

Did you spend your favor with Prince Oberyn Martell to be one of your Seven Champions?
>Yay
>Neigh
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Notes:
>Brynden will be using his Mounted Kit II (Knight) for this fight, you can see this updated on the Character Sheet
>There’s a new document in the Mastersheet that has the bow options for Brynden’s Dragonbone bow

The thread is still officially beginning tomorrow (21st May at 2PM EST), I just wanted to give everyone the chance to see the decision here and vote. I don’t know how many people still care that much but hopefully by casting a day long net I can catch a few others who might not follow my Twitter.

We’re back. Please bare with me if I forgot assorted details, it is hell getting all of these notes and almost two year old notes together again. Feel free to remind me of stuff if I forget it. There have been a handful of retcons, I may not have updated everything, if you see anything in any of the documents that seems off I’ll take a look and fix it as appropriate. I’m still a bit slow on writing, getting the swing of it again, and getting the system under control again. I’m going to take some cues from Grallner to make things more transparent for you guys in terms of game mechanics, so expect to see Brynden get a more banged up mechanically speaking.

I decided to skip to the Trial by Seven and sort of skim over the actual trial because that was literally one of the hardest writing roadblocks I’ve ever hit. So I hope you guys are ready for some very immediate action and possibly death. Also holy fuck we doing it.
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Good to be back!
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>>3521037
We need to spend that favor with Oberyn. It's now or never and we could really use his help. Honestly as much as I'm sure it's a trap we can't in good conscience deny Wesley the chance to fight alongside us. It would just be too out of character to deny that.

>>Yay
>>Yay
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>>3521037
Holy fuck. It actually happened.
>Yay
>Yay

Fucking gotta man.
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>>3521037
>Yay
>Hell yay
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>>3521037
>Did you decide to allow Ser Wesley Hayford to be one of your Seven Champions?
>Yay
Did you spend your favor with Prince Oberyn Martell to be one of your Seven Champions?
>Yay
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It is on like fucking Donkey Kong gentlemen. And as risky as it is to let Wesley join us, I feel like we have to do it. To not let him join in on the cause of vengeance against our family seems ooc. And should he perish, there is a child there. If it's a boy, there is an heir, if it's a girl, well we can cross that bridge when we come to it. As for Oberyn, I'm saying yes to that as well. I cant imagine a better use for the favor and the guy is literally death personified with a spear.

>yay
>yay
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>>3521037
>Yay
>Yay
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>>3521037
>Yay
>Yay

Reminder that Lorelei is literally perfect.
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Wow I didn’t realize Brynden only had Fighting 4. We’re gonna have to save up enough experience to fix that shit. Also Athletics of 3 is pretty mediocre.
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ALL MEN MUST HYPE
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>>3521007
Lol at the idea of Langly sailing to us on a giant spliff. A spliff is just weed mixed with tobacco, I think you meant skiff here.
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>>3521071
Brynden is more of an archer, mounted warrior, and commander build. That's what I've always loved about him, I don't think he needs to be built like every other GoT quest protag
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>>3521037
>>Yay
>Yay
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>>3521077
Hahaha I certainly did. My infamous typos and mis-associated words strike again.

>>3521071
Like >>3521078 said, when I genned Brynden I did lean far more towards archer and commander build than I did typical warrior. Don't get me wrong he isn't a slouch but it isn't his forte.

Anyway, I'll be around if there are questions. Or whatever. Just wanted to get this first post up today so I could have momentum
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>>3521071
To be fair you don't have to be a monster of a fighter with Dontos or even Lucas around.
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>>3521082
Did you ever think about us while you were gone to the gas station ?
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>>3521082
I've spent the last week re-reading the mastersheet and all the threads and the House History and the ask.fm and I am so incredibly HYPED. When we get our Dragonbone bow it's going to be named Blackbrand right? As a parallel to our ancestral Valyrian sword Goldbrand?

I hope we don't go too overboard with mechanics. More transparency does sound great but I don't want to get too bogged down with it: I always quite liked how they occupied more of a "sidebar" space than front and center.
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>>3521082
Are you prepared to write a trial by seven? You may be a bit rusty
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>>3521082
Hi Papi!!

If we win this trial, what are the odds that the armies massing outside of steadhold just attack?

Hows life? Hows the job? Are you busy and is this just going to complete the saga, or are you back for good? Did you take a wrong turn and get lost on the way home? What made you want to come back to us? Good to see you Dad <3.
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>>3521037
We just started and I am already nervous.
>yay
>yay
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Help I can't figure out who Raymun Chelsted is: Everyone else I know who they are and why they're our bros. There's a lotta characters please cut me some slack.
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>>3521095
It's either Lucas' Squire or Lucas' Suire's dad
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He back!
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>>3521085
A well made point.

>>3521086
There was a long period where I just distanced myself from it.But recently, whether it be the show or other quests, I've just been more in the mood to return. I care about writing a lot. So to complete this story is important, I feel.

>>3521087
Hell y'all can name it whatever you want. An important heirloom like that should have a name.

And honestly the biggest mechanically upgrade will be the food and trade system I was using in Grallner because I really liked it. Otherwise fighting will still work the same, I'll just show you guys results like I did in Grallner and House Fortunes will be the same, albeit nerfed slightly.

>>3521088
I believe so. I genned the combat scenario already, so I have a vague idea of how things go. Depending upon Brynden's actions of course. Yes I am definitely a bit rusty, but I feel going right into it will help me shake it off.

>>3521089
Who knows, that would be some really quick messaging though. But I will remind that Obella, Mason, and Dontos went to the crown to say, "yo what the fuck".

>spoiler
Job is good. I made some changes in my life within the past year and have settled into a nice career where I'm not working 60-70 hour weeks anymore.

The plan is to complete the Malroy story. At the very least I want to give us some payoff with finishing Royce. Assuming we live here. After that, I'm not sure. But I want to finish this story before I go back to anything else.

>>3521095
Raymun Chelsted was introduced in the Mason side threads where he was tasked with bringing the message of some fuck shit going down in the Crownlands. He isn't super important, I wouldn't expect anyone to remember him. Hell I barely did.

>>3521099
Nah that's Grant Conklyn (Lucas' former squire) and Lord Argor Conklyn (his dad). They don't have any play in this.
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>>3521099
>>3521095

Also I know that Lucerys Celtigar is one of our household knights and a bro but could someone give me the >>quick rundown on why he's our bro and what his relationship is to the rest of the Saltygars?
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>>3521106
God fuck me dad, I'm just glad you're back. I need something to wash the shit in my mouth that's the GoT show.
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>>3521106

I want to see Brynden get to have fun in Bobby B's Wild Island Getaway and then change the course of destiny in the WotFK so badly Dad. My buddy and I have spent entire nights poring over troop movements and events of the books to see where Malroy could make a difference. Honestly I think it would be really cool: I feel the Arryn bus-throwing episode really left us browbeaten and we spent a ton of threads not really sallying forth into adventure and sticking to the low-stakes sandbox of local tourneys and resource management. I'd like to see Brynden really flex his ADVENTURE muscles again before fading away into the responsible lord.
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>>3521107
Ser Lucerys Celtigar is Brynden's first cousin once removed. His mother was a Malroy. And is the Uncle of the current Lord of House Celtigar. He is an older man, about 50, who is more keen on naval warfare than he is of that on land but all the same.

He visited Brynden during I think 40-50 threads, can't quite remember, to let him know what was going on with the Celtigars and to see him since they're on good terms. He decided to stick around for a little bit and traveled with him to the Tourney. And plans to leave back to his family afterwards.
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>>3521115
Thanks dad, love ya.
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>>3521115
>And plans to leave back to his family afterwards.

Well he is dead.

What do you think of the shitshow that was Season 8 of GoT ?
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>>3521037

YAY to both padre

Also am I able to roll tomorrow?

Also also GREAT TO SEE YA BACK
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>>3521145
Mother of God. Sleepy if you dont roll tomorrow I will be thoroughly upset.
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>>3521145

Good to see you back sleepyanon. Is targfag still among us?
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You've not only dropped off without saying anything not once, but twice. And I'm still pissed about that. So when you quit this run, do us the favor of actually saying something first. Otherwise, you're still a fucking asshole.
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>>3521037
>Yay
>Yay

How likely are we to pummel them without Oberyn?
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>>3521175

I imagine Wesley is a dead man and our ability to gain friends in the Reach will be shot due to saying Yay to Wesley and Oberyn, but honestly there's no other way: Brynden would never not bring them.
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>>3521185
Fuck it then, lets demolish them.
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>>3521037
>Did you decide to allow Ser Wesley Hayford to be one of your Seven Champions?

>yay

>Did you spend your favor with Prince Oberyn Martell to be one of your Seven Champions?

>yay

Gods, it is good to see you again, Father! Here's to crazy Malroy antics!
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>>3521037
>Yay
>Yay
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>>3521150
Well I may roll shit tomorrow though!

>>3521151
Dunno but it would be nostalgic to see him though.
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>>3521234

I was the one who initially bestowed that nickname upon him. At the time I thought he was a moron but in hindsight targfag was a good guy. I miss him.
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>>3521113
>>3521125
I haven't been a fan of the show since season 5 I think. I can appreciate aspects of it and what it is. But holy hell that was a rough last season. I am looking forward to the books and it doing things proper (f)Aegon I believe will help a lot of things make significantly more sense. Either way, its over now, I'm pretty over the series. I will say I'm looking forward to the spin offs. Age of Heroes or Aegon's Conquest would be a joy.

>>3521114
I wouldn't say that's unfair. I suppose you take your browbeating and do things low key for awhile. Yeah it might have gotten a little boring for everyone but I enjoyed doing the wedding and rebuilding the House is also an important part of the quest. That being said, after this Trial by Seven we have multiple war fronts to deal with in the Crownlands. A trip to Lys and a return trip to help the Longwaters deal with some pirates. And from there I think we might see things pick up more at home, so there should be plenty of adventure time.

However, the Malroys are definitely going to be called to war during Bobby B's Wild and Wet Island Extravaganza. He'll be well considered as a competent commander by then and likely House Malroy will be at full strength again.

>>3521145
Roll to your heart's content Sleepy. Haha Maybe a few years have soured your luck.
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>>3521240
Nah still been rolling absurdly good in the few asoiaf quests that poop up.
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>>3521145
Well doth my raki, it's Sleepy. Good to see you back, man.
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>>3521250
Are you also Sleepy the QM? Please come back, I miss you.
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>>3521240

I truly believe that Malroy's allegiance will eventually be with fAegon when the time comes.
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>>3521253
Nope. That was another someone else.

>>3521252
Also KEK. But I've been around just didn't feel like throwing the name back on until wardad came back.
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>>3521240

Did you read and enjoy Fire and Blood? I loved the details of Jaehaerys's reign and especially the Androw Farman Pumped Up Kicks episode..
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>>3521268
I did, except the part with the graphic depictions of a child dying via valyrian whatsits really messed with me for some reason, I'm usually not squeamish.

The chapters on the Dance were probably my favorite.
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>>3521240
>Bobby B's Wild and Wet Island Extravaganza
>>3521114
>Bobby B's Wild Island Getaway
At first I was thinking "what?" But then I remembered.
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>>3521037
>Yay
>Yay
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>>3521240
Hey so iirc there was a chance for us to stake claims on Linden's clay and shit once we beat him and return the ctownlands right? Specifically i remember being able to take his children as wards/hostages?
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>>3521260
I actually can't say which way I'd call that. But I feel like that would be a very likely answer. I believe I've spoken about Brynden's numerous options during the WotFKs and how he's uniquely positioned to gain grossly from it. But never that invasion. Who knows, perhaps another book will come out and we can make a more informed decision.

>>3521268
I did indeed. It was actually a really great book for my history document. I do plan on going back and updating that a bit at some point.

>>3521316
Yeah that was a hard YOOOOO what the fuck for me.

>>3521624
There was, picture related. I had wondered if anyone would remember. But taking Linden's clay, his titles, his children as wards. That's some vengeful stuff, right up Brynden's alley. He would have good cause and post war with Saul Cromwell's help he should certainly petition the Crown and the Hand to give him some reparations. Put the Langwards on the sidelines for good.

Personally, I'm one for titles. I feel like Brynden would enjoy adding an extra title to his name just for the egotistical nature of it.
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HYPE!! HYYYYYYYYYYYYPE!!!!

You're early Dad!! I won't be here for the run tomorrow because I'm working so y'all mother fuckers had better not die while I'm away. Can't wait to see the aftermath tomorrow night!!

>yay
>yay
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>>3521658
>>Godscrown, valyrian steel longsword
Damn is that going to be in play in this trial?
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First for helping our sister recover through the three H's
Head pats
Hugging
and hard dicking
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>>3521682
If it is we take it from him.
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>>3521729
That’d be robbery no? If we get the chance to let him yield and spare his life/drop the charges for certain conditions including the sword.
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>>3521765
That is where I was going. A family that would break the kings peace doesn't deserve a sword like that.
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>>3521768
Mmm but is a sharp sword worth possibly letting him live?
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IT LIVES
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>>3521037
Double yay
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>>3521658
Hey Pop I hate to be a needy fuck but can you please check your Twitter messages
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>>3521658
Welcome back daddy!
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Father, those better have been some damn good cigarettes you got from the gas station!

I'm glad you're back <3
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>>3521037
Wesley
>Yay
Oberyn
>Neigh
I'm sure some day in the future we'll need it for something else. Something better. We can win this without him.
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>>3521765
>>3521682

Are you guys crazy? You did read that getting that would be basically impossible and far too much effort for a sword. Go for something more reasonable such as clay or titles.

On that note what exactly does "Lord Marshal of the SGER" mean exactly? I feel like the fact that we control the strategically critical bridge over the southern GER would give us a pretty great claim to it but what exactly is the implications/benefits of such a title?
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>>3521037
My god it’s actually back.

>Yay
>Yay

One we have to bring, the other we have to bring to keep him alive. Shit, this makes me wonder if I could manage to bring back Blood and Water...
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>>3522076
Sure we can win it without him. But i'd rather not lose some of our friends and allies for this. Taking him with us reduces that.
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>>3521037
Good to have you back father
>yay
>yay
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>>3522169
This. Taking Oberyn is the difference between some of our friends dying, and our side all coming out of this alive.
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>>3522129
While I'm all for GoT quests on /qst/, I think you'd probably have better success if you started over. If I recall correctly House Blackett only ran for 3 or 4 threads right? That, with the rather large passage of time, might lead to a bit less interest than if you ran a new house creation.

Just my humble opinion though, good luck and I hope to see more Game of Thrones on this board.


>>3522176
Yeah this guy gets it. We need to keep Wesley alive at the very least. The rest of them arnt the heir to one of our closest allied houses, with an already grieving father. But we cant deny him his own vengeance either. The Red Viper almost guarantees our success.
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>>3522169
This, also we can't gurantee how much longer Father will run R&G for.

Ironborn shithole quest when?

>>3521037
>Yay
God help Bryndens conciounes if he dies
>Yay
Oberyn could take Gregor fucking Clegane at 40+ years of age I want to see him in his prime
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>>3522091
>a sword
It's not just a sword, it's a Valyrian steel sword.
Having said that, I don't think it's worth it either. Lands>Title>Sword>Ward I think.
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>>3522210
I agree on the order but I'm just wondering if the title has any significance and use apart from the symbolism and glory of having it
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>>3522210

Kind of disagree friend. If you ask me, this should be the order of priority.

1. Lands.

This will cripple the house and prevent them from threatening us again. With less lands and less income, their army decreases as does their prestige.

2.Ward (Preferably the first born son)

This will keep the Langwards on the sidelines even if we dont get their lands, and if we do get the lands as well, this stops any future plotting in its tracks.

3. Title

This just seems like a very Brynden thing to do. Plus its rubbing salt in the wound.

4. The Sword

While I think Brynden would take it to spite the Langward, the sheer difficulty of it would be ridiculous. Not to mention, we already have the potential for our own heirloom, and one Brynden can use muh more effectively.
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>>3522226
>This will keep the Langwards on the sidelines even if we dont get their lands, and if we do get the lands as well, this stops any future plotting in its tracks.
That is true, but wards are also a danger. If they hate us and are able to get support from our enemies they might try to kill us or those we love, like what happened in Grallner quest (where it luckily worked out well). That's why I'd really not bother with them.

Also obligatory >reddit spacing

>>3522216
I wonder too but even if it doesn't it's still a probably prestigious title to have
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>>3522231
Landon Grallner was a muppet though. A threshing machine on legs mind you, and clansmen were his wheat, but an absolute idiot when it came to intrigue. We have the dornish spy mistress, and are ourselves ex sellsword who knows the signs of betrayal first hand. And dont forget sweet, loveable BEST BOY Victus. Everyone loves that kid.
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>>3522226
I agree with this. And its not like Robert is disinclined to give over heirs to a House a la Theon. I think we should go for his first born son, try to send his daughter over to Hayford, and his second born son over to Blacksaithe.

>Not to mention, we already have the potential for our own heirloom
What bow do you guys like for that? I'm keen on the horse bow personally.
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>>3522246
I'm with you on the horse bow. I get that the great bow is more impressive (and makes it easier to win tourneys with), but we are a horse lord first and foremost, and should be able to use our bow from horseback.
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>>3522246
>>3522254
My only concern with the horse bow is how we're going to make use of it in Bobby B's Fun Time Water Park, or fighting pirates with the Longwaters.
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>>3522246
>>3522254
Seems like a waste to make a smaller bow since 1. we’re not always on horseback and 2. long bows were historically used from horseback effectively.
I mean why whittle down a precious dragon bone to a little thing if we can make more use of it as it is.
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>>3522350
i agree
but if there is bone enough for two horse bows?
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>>3522254
If Pops can confirm that if we get the longbow we could still use on horseback then I'll definitely be picking that
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>>3522354
One for us and one for Victus.
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>>3522356
Nah so we can dual wield bows
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>>3522355
It definitely isn't, the greatbow had the Unweildy quality meaning it takes a -2D to tests when on a mount. So I guess its useable but not exactly practical
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>>3522360
Well dragonbone probably has perks that negate the negative so it evens out to a fairly good bow on horseback and a godly bow off.
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>>3522364
It doesnt look like it to me given the statlines in the docx that Father made. That -2D isnt mention at all about being negated, just has a longer range, better piercing capabilities, and higher damage.

Brynden already does have a pretty good recurve though that he uses on horseback. Probably keep using that and then the greatbow on foot and in tourneys
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>>3522369
What are you reading? Is it on dragonbone bows or regular bows?
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>>3522372
The document father made in the masterlist. He gave stats for both variants
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>>3522372
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gduVLvtxDvpbxkhy2HlH-ohHZo0LT891nd4OeejSnHI/edit

This? Father lays it out pretty simply
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>>3522376
>Intimidating grants a +1 to all Persuasion(Intimidate) tests made on the battlefield and in social situations where the bow is present
THAT'S nice. Huh it's only a difference of 1D when not on horse back plus having 9 damage not 8.
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>>3522380
I'm joy selling the greatbow short. That thing is a murder machine. Piercing 2, long range 2, viscous.

I just think the recurve is the way to go, because it fits with Bryndens preferred method of fighting, it compliments the double shot and animal cohort benefits, plus it has a greater dice pool. It also still has piercing 1, and only causes 1 less damage.
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>>3522390
Mounted archer's are effective in a group. Westeros uses longbows. If we want to pass down a family heirloom why make it one that is a niche skill set. After a few generations House Malroy might not even have any horse archers.
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>The bow is a coward’s weapon. Take up the spear or maul. They’ll serve you better.
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>>3522402
>WHATS THAT I CANT HEAR YOU FROM 200 YARDS AWAY
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>>3522404
>Here. Let me get closer for you.
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>>3522409
You need to come closer
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>>3522423
*blocks your path*
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>>3522401
Because it's still a wicked bow that can be used on foot? Also, consider Ice. The starks greatsword was an heirloom, even though it was far to big to be of practical use, and was used for executions and other ceremonial purposes.
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>>3522434
Ice isn't larger than a greatsword in our lengthwise. And weight is negated by valyrian steel. We don't see it being used in battle because Eddard isn't in any battles. It most definitely would be an effective and lethal weapon in battle. Bad example.
>can be used on foot
It doesn't get the horse riding perks on foot.
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>>3522442
It may very well have been light enough to use, but every mention of Ice has it being used to execute someone. To my knowledge there isnt any mention of it being used in battle at all in any source material.

And yes, the recurve doesnt get the benefit of Animal Cohort on foot, that's true. But the greatbow used on horseback can hardly be used at all. I prefer the greater versatility of the recurve which we can use mounted or afoot with a great degree of skill.
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On you left…

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The sword clatters at your cousin’s feet, his tent is small, not particularly well adorned, one might not even had known it belonged to the Hayfords at a passing glance, a Knight of House Hogg had accompanied him was the majority of his support among a few servants as well. He looks up to you from his table, half an egg hung from his mouth, his eyes were red and you could see he hadn’t bothered to bath or even undress from the night prior.

“Have you slept cousin?”

“Aye, a mite.”

“Can you fight?”

His eyes mist again and he stands, knocking over his chair in the process. He goes to speak but stammers out a few words before you cross and draw your cousin into an embrace.

“I had no right Wesley,” you say, “You are my family. You were theirs. No one has any right to tell you that you cannot fight for them, or beside me. It would be an honor.”

Wesley thumps you on the back several times, causing your half-plate to shudder, his sobs even and he draws a long sniffle before breaking away from you. He looks down at his sword upon the floor, and is quick to snap it up again, “This is my grandfather's sword. It is Valyrian steel, it isn’t special, but it’s ours. Its family. I-I… need a moment to gather myself Brynden. But I will be there. By your side, through this all. And then we will return home, victorious and defeat the last of them. And then the Red Bastard himself. I swear it.”

The two of you lock forearms upon the promise, and share a moment longer. Family. It truly was the last of what you had. Seven Hells what the both of you had left.

---

...was Ser Wesley Hayford. Your cousin, your family. Fighting for all the same reasons as yourself in truth. He looks the very image of a Knight, garbed in full plate, his horse, the golden courser of your own stock wearing plate barding and caparison of motley green and yellow. He raises his lance into the air, slamming the visor of his helmet closed and looking forward without fear. And thus you were six.

And to your right…

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Prince Oberyn Martell’s pavillion far outstripped Wesley’s tent, Seven it far outstripped your own. The lavish thing almost seemed a small building and you find the Prince of Dorne within a copper lion footed tub, likely some bit of irony on his part, with a woman upon his lap giggling and riding him without a single care of your entering, despite the multiple announcements of your arrival.
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“Ah Lord Malroy, it is a pleasure to see you as always,” he says with a tossed back look, his hand running across the breast of the woman that services him, lightly slapping it and receiving a fit of giggles in return before reaching for a goblet of wine and snapping his fingers for his servant to gather one for you as well. It was strange watching the man, seemingly so unpulsed by what had occurred the days prior. The Reachmen were giving the dornish congregation a wide berth, and you had been shocked that Lord Tyrell hadn’t banished them all immediately, perhaps for want of keeping the peace. You could not be certain nor say for sure. But the goblet reaches your hand all the same but it goes relatively untouched with your stomach in the knots it was in.

“And you as well Prince Oberyn,” you respond, circling around to the side so the two of you may be more or less eye to eye. The woman upon his lap shudders and you note it was not Lady Ellaria Sand, she was fair of hair and eye, likely a reachwoman, you doubted noble- on no that signet ring was of House Ashford you believed.

The dornishman looks you up and down quickly, “I see you prepare for battle Lord Malroy,” he says with a click of his tongue, “I had heard of such. A Trial by Seven is it to be?”

You nod silently and he affirms with his own. Before gesturing for you to drink for lack of being a poor guest you indulge him.

“I find the taste of the dornish red to accompany war quite well Lord Malroy,” he says with a half cocked smirk, pouring some over the breasts of the woman and drinking the run off from her nipple. A part of you remembers the days of such fleeting pleasures, no doubt Obella would take an equal amount of joy in such trivializes but nonetheless. The sellsword yet remained but perhaps he had been tamed somewhat. The Prince pulls away and waves at the woman to leave the two of you, biting at her nipple a final time before she pulls herself from his length and finds a sheer robe to dress in and slipping away into the curtains of the pavilion. Oberyn continues to stare forward, “You do not come by for idle chatter though, do you Lord Malroy? The look upon your face speaks to more than that, no?”

You tighten your grip upon the pommel of your sword, the two rings of silver, lasting mementos of your time in the Free Cities with the Second Sons. And that of a favor to be called upon. Removing your gauntlet you pull the silver ring from your pinkie finger and flick it to the Prince with a metallic ring and he catches it in mid-air. Rolling it across his knuckles with a smile upon his face.

“I had hoped to hear you ask,” he says simply, “A favor is a favor, no? I would be happy to fight by your side Lord Malroy. But I would caution, such a sight… It will unlikely make you little friends in the days that are to come, considering the recent… Incident involving Lord Tyrell’s heir.”
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Frowning you respond, “I shall manage Prince Oberyn. I would be a fool to deny your prowess in battle. And I’d be remiss to not call upon you in such a time of need.”

The Prince laughs, rising from the bath and clothing himself in a robe that does little to hide his own modesty, “I understand that a Ser Cardyn Lantell will be amongst this Linden’s champions. I claim his life for myself, he will not survive an attempt upon Lord Quentyn’s life. And I will be damned if I see a Lannister lackey get away with an attack upon the dornish again. You’ve my spear, Lord Malroy.”

The two of you lock arms, as awkward as it may be and he is off not long after. The giggles of the woman reach your ears again as you leave, a small smirk spread upon your lips.

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...was Prince Oberyn Martell. The Red Viper himself. He is dressed as the dornish do, light armour, a spear and a buckler. His horse, a sand steed is hardly armoured at all, a caparison of sand silk of yellow and blood red, the speared sun of House Martell standing proudly despite the litany of booes it recieves from the crowd. The Prince laugh as he places his helmet, a pointed thing with clear eastern influence and ribbons of red and yellow spiraling from the peak, and gives you a short look but for the most part his eyes remain upon the Lantell from across the way. And thus you were Seven.

The crowd is hard to quiet, taking several calls by the herald before they finally quiet to a murmur as he announces the crimes to which Lord Linden Langward is accused. Spying, treason, acting against the King’s Peace, attempted murder, deception under false pretenses, etc. it was a list of charges you had not spoken, but perhaps was made by what had occurred. Someone with better words to put to the crimes than yourself. Your eyes land upon Lord Mace Tyrell, sat within a lofted box, Lords Randyll Tarly, Paxter Redwyne, and Mattias Rowan about him as well. Good allies to have you think, their words upon the decree of Linden’s guilt will serve you well when you return home to the Crownlands and press the Crown for concessions following the war.

The sun shines briefly through the dark cloud, alighting your eyes with wildfire, you slowly close your visor. Listening to the names of those that would champions a mad Lord’s cause. They would all die, you swore it, by your hand or another. You had a promise to keep.
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The herald runs from the field. The crowd beginning to murmur once again. A flag raised over the Lord’s box flips and twists as the wind picks up and thunder claps over head. Though rain is not yet to fall. Your war lance hefts into place, the knot in your stomach undoing itself and finally settling for war. That is what this was. War in its purest form. You had seen it many times before and would see it hundred times again. You take a deep breath, eyes following the flag, time seems to slow… And then it drops, the world rushing back to you with such cacophony it could be heard for leagues. The roar of the crowd, the shouting of fourteen men, and cries of the horses as they’re spurred into battle. You dig deep into Goldsong, a final time, you promised. And he breaks into a gallop, leading the pack for a moment before Prince Oberyn streaks past you upon his sand steed and making first contact with shattering effect. But you do not remain upon it long, Ser Hyle Vyrwel is a length away from you, raining curses upon you even with his lance out of place, and you brace yourself. Your arms lock. And eyes flair of wildfire.

Please roll 7D6+1 [4D(Fighting)+1D (Animal Cohort)-1D(Charge)+3B(War-Trained Mount)+1(Superior War Lance)] for Fighting (Spears)
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Rolled 2, 5, 1, 3, 4, 4, 6 + 1 = 26 (7d6 + 1)

Holy fuck its happening. My body is ready. RIDE UNTO THE SUNSEEEEEET!!!
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>>3522460
There is no logical reason why it wouldn't be used in battle. Just because it is used for execution does not mean it isn't also used for war.

It can be used and effectively. It has Vicious. So it will kill the opponent we just have to roll good and make sure we hit him. kek imagining Lord Brynden firing gigantic arrows at his enemies from horseback is hilarious even missing it would have to be intimidating to whoever we're firing at.
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Rolled 3, 6, 4, 2, 2, 2, 1 + 1 = 21 (7d6 + 1)

>>3522476
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Rolled 1, 1, 2, 2, 6, 1, 5 + 1 = 19 (7d6 + 1)

>>3522476
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>>3522481
>>3522485
>>3522489
Mediocre
but hopefully good enough. I doubt it but hope.
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RIP

>>3522484
It very well could have been, but there is no mention of him wielding it, or any other Stark doing so, on the battle field. Even during Robert's rebellion, where everyone remembers Robert's hammer(lol), theres no mention of Ice. Anyhow, I propose a truce until the action is over and Langward is laying dead in the dirt.
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Rolled 4, 3, 4, 5, 2, 1, 3 + 1 = 23 (7d6 + 1)

>>3522476
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>>3522481
20
>>3522485
16
>>3522489
16

Please roll 3D6 for Awareness(Notice)
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Rolled 6, 1, 6 = 13 (3d6)

>>3522497
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>>3522494
Yes. It's showtime!
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Rolled 5, 5, 5 = 15 (3d6)

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Rolled 6, 6, 2 = 14 (3d6)

>>3522497
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>>3522501
Not bad.
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>>3522498
>>3522501
>>3522502
13,15,14

Good rolls, but are they enough. Writing.
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>>3522498
>>3522501
>>3522502
At least we are aware.

>>3522505
That 15 should hopefully.
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>>3522505
Dont play with my emotions like that. The adreneline is pumping and my heart rate is physically through the roof right now
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did we get that annointed perk? i cant remember
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>Inb4 Oberyn takes off his helmet after the battle and half his brain falls out and he dies
>Inb4 we create a time paradox
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>>3522538
That's a texas sized 10-4 good buddy
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>>3522540
>SNAKE YOU CAN'T DO THAT!
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>>3522542
thanks
on another note, we really need to increase our fukin awareness
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Lord Brynden Malroy’s Attack I
DC: 7
Rolls: 20, 16, 16
>Success, Three Degrees
>Damage: 9+2 Charge=11*3=33-7AR = 26 Damage
>Ser Hyle Vyrwel’s Health: 9-26=-17 Health, threshold exceeded
Result: Ser Hyle Vyrwel is Dead

Ser Hyle Vyrwel’s Attack I
DC: 9
Roll: 10
>Success, One Degree.
>Damage: 5*1=4-10AR=0 Damage
>Lord Brynden Malroy’s Health: 12-0=0
Result: Lord Brynden Malroy is unscathed.

Time no longer slows for you in the heat of the moment, it is a whirlwind, a brutal split second of pain and anger. You had felt the heat rising in your body as you galloped down the yard, so focused and intense your mind had left you with but one single thought, that of Revenge. Truly it was a sweet taste upon your lips, a word, a feeling, an action you savored for the split second you had been allowed as your war lance crashes into Ser Hyle Vyrwel. Your arm braces and your legs clutch to Goldsong for dear life, but not for retaliation from the other man, no but for the absolutely crushing and splintering of your lance as it caved the man’s breastplate and broke through without a second thought. You could feel his chest cave just as the breastplate, the shattering of bone and rending of flesh, if he lived through this you would be shocked, an act of divine intervention but you knew he would not be so lucky, your own fury too much for even the Seven. His own lance slides off your shield with easy, hardly even placed before you were running with down with superior horse, speed, and ability. Your arm stays fast and you can him lose his grip and continue to push through with the full weight of your body and Goldsong’s gallop. It is not a second later you see him flung from his horse, half of your lance dug deep into his chest, the other half in your hand still. You fling it to the ground as Goldsong continues on, his training allowing you a moment to gather yourself and rip your bastard sword from its scabbard, ready for the next pass.

To your right you see Prince Oberyn reeling around far down the length of the yard and coming back immediately after his intended target. Incredibly he avoided any damage in that armour of his and hardly missed a beat, a look of amusement dancing on his face. A handful of your other champions arrive after you, looking for the better and relatively unscathed but a quick count and you find yourself missing a man. You fling your head back and see Ser Raymun Chelsted hanging from his stirrups, his body limp and head twisted at a broken angle, a bit of lance hangs from his visor and a trail of blood follows his horse as the squires attempt to stop the horse. It is unlikely he survived. Ser Leo Langly flings his lance down much in the same way you had and you surmise it was his doing as he pulls a warpick from his belt, readying himself. You allow yourself a glance down and see Ser Hyle’s body in a bloody heap on the ground, certainly dead. An even six to six on the opening charge.
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Chaos breaks out as several of your champions break into another pass, Lucas and Wesley still have their lances, while Lucerys, who looks to have taken a nasty hit has his sword out, and Quellon his as well. You turn, slightly, intending a new target of your own but from the corner of your eye you catch a gleam. Your hand tightens on the reins and your spurs adjust slightly.

Lord Brynden Malroy’s Awareness I
DC: 15
Rolls: 14, 15, 13
>Success, One Degree.

And not a moment too soon. You jerk Goldsong’s head back and he comes up to his full length on his hind legs almost a second too late as Ser Cardyn Lantell’s miss what was assuredly a lance to the chest of your dear friend, a move you had seen from his tilt with Lord Quentyn Qorgyle. So much for a ‘misfortunate accident’. Your eyes catch ablaze with wildfire, anger and the taste of revenge reaching your tongue not a moment later. Prince Oberyn is chasing him down, gaining quickly but not quite enough. Digging your spurs into Goldsong you lead him the other direction of their chase, the coward would have nowhere to go with the two of you closing on him from different angles, you knew. Goldsong breaks into a deadly gallop, as if he fed upon your own rage, your sword goes up as you close the gap and the Lantell realizes that he had fallen into a trap and tries to divert to the side giving the Prince enough room to close on him as well.

Please roll 9D6+1 [4D(Fighting)+1D (Animal Cohort)-1D(Charge)+2B (Long Blades)+3B(War-Trained Mount)+1(Superior Bastard Sword] for Fighting (Long Blades)

You guys just barely made the DC to save Goldsong. A missed roll on that and he was dead.
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Rolled 4, 4, 2, 5, 3, 6, 5, 2, 2 + 1 = 34 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522554
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Rolled 2, 2, 6, 4, 2, 6, 4, 6, 2 + 1 = 35 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522554
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Rolled 6, 3, 2, 1, 6, 1, 5, 1, 2 + 1 = 28 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522554
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Rolled 1, 5, 1, 1, 4, 5, 4, 6, 6 + 1 = 34 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522554
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Rolled 5, 6, 3, 6, 3, 6, 5, 3, 6 + 1 = 44 (9d6 + 1)

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>>3522556
21
>>3522557
23
>>3522559
21

Good rolls, Brynden is hella deadly on a horse.
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>>3522561
FUCK YOU CAPTCHA!!!
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>>3522561
>44
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>>3522554
He's two days away from retirement, of course he's more prone to getting killed.

Goldsong is a good boy, he deserves his retirement.
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>>3522554
Ok that's enough empty promises of letting Goldsong retire. Goldsong is going out to stud and never fighting again.
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>>3522561
link your vote next time
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>>3522554
>>3522565
Wait I'm confused: Lantell's life belongs to Oberyn, we're not killstealing, right?
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>>3522597
+1 Bro Assist
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>Ser Raymun Chelsted
Im sorry guys, its been so long. can anyone give me a few lines about the man we lost?
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>>3522597
I think it's more double teaming him to knock someone else off their team before they can do that to our side.
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>>3522603
Same here. That's the problem with dropping and then getting back years later, shit is forgotten.
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>>3522603

He's a literally who. Brynden has never met him before Mason Blackflower sent him as a messenger to bring us news of the army at our door, it's not a coincidence that the dumbass Vrywel who thought we dishonored his sister and Raymun Chelsted were the first to job.
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>>3522578
First thing we're getting Goldsong is some dothraki mates and the best field in the crownlands
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>>3522612
thanks dude
hope you like fishes
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>>3522614
We already have the dothraki pussy
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>>3522624
Yeah we haven't done anything with it either
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>>3522626
´We havnt had time
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We need to get Goldsong a harem of mares from all the different breeds around the world.
The watch needs good horses? Get them some Golden Northerns.
Dorne want's an edge? Golden Sandies.
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>>3522633
Lannisters want horses that match their colors? They can eat shit and fuck off.
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Ser Cardyn Lantell’s Attack I
DC: 9
Roll: 15
>Success, Two Degrees
>Damage: 7+2 Charge=9*2=18-10AR=8 Damage-4 Injury Taken=4 Damage
>Lord Brynden Malroy’s Health: 12-4=8 Health
>Lord Brynden Malroy takes an injury (¼)

Lord Brynden Malroy’s Attack I
DC: 8
Rolls: 21,23,21
>Success, Four Degrees
>Damage: 9+2 Charge=11*4=44-9AR = 35 Damage
>Ser Cardyn Lantell’s Health: 15-35=-20 Health

Prince Oberyn Martell’s Attack I
DC: 8
Rolls: 24,26,21
>Success, Four Degrees
>Damage: 10*4=40-9AR=31 Damage
>Ser Cardyn Lantell’s Health: -20-31=-51, threshold exceeded
Result: Ser Cardyn Lantell is Dead.

Unfortunately he hadn’t pulled away entirely, he had enough left to over extend and hit you with his lance in the charge, perhaps you had always been his intended target, but having been given chase to by the Prince threw his game and caution to the wind. He reaches you with the full force of his charge and you take the brunt of it on your shield, thankfully. A moment longer and it might have meant your death, his lance crushes into your shield and you grit your teeth as you feel the weight of your shield buckling around your arm and twisting downwards, it didn’t feel broken at least, sprained and swore and likely bruised but you would get away with a minor scrap. You’re able to push the lance off to the side and use what remains of your momentum from the swing to slash at Ser Cardyn Lantell and gain purchase in the exposed underside of his arm from his overextension as he attempted to push through you and off your horse, you feel your blade slice through leather and into soft delicate flesh and hear him scream in pain as you blade moves through the muscle and clatters its way out against the plate he wore, he drops his lance immediately and reaches for the limp arm with his shield hand. Blood runs from your blade as you pull Goldsong into a quick turn going for a second pass to end him.

But it was an effort unneeded as you watch Prince Oberyn’s spear piercing him from the nape of the neck, through his chest and out his belly. He lets go quickly and you watch as Cardyn slumps from his horse and falls to the ground with a thud. The crowd roars at the sight of blood once more and you watch the Prince race off without a weapon to his squire where he tosses him another and he regains himself a moment before seeking out a new target. The Prince certainly lived up to his dangerous reputation, you were lucky to have him on your side.
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Quickly scanning the battlefield you see that despite having killed Lantell you are soon to lose another man. Ser Lucerys Celtigar is holding himself up against the fence that separates the yard from the rabble, disarmed his helmet on the ground beside him as he gasps for air and bleeds from his temple. Ser Gerion Hightower stands over him and brings the pommel of his greatsword down on him several times before your distant cousin falls to the ground lifeless, his face a bloody ruin, an eye hanging from its socket, and blood gushing out with the last vainless pumps from his heart. You take a shuddering breath, the damned Hightower was a formidable fighter and a had killed not one of your men but now time and family at that. You dig your spurs into Goldsong and push him forward, intent to run the man down as he was afoot.

A yell of shock and pain draws your attention to the other side of the field. Ser Quellon Qorgyle, your wife’s younger brother and a man that had fought by your side in the Invasion of the Princewood is flung from his horse and lands in a heap, his left arm twisted in an unnatural angle and clearly broken. Ser Orton Yronwood slams his hooked spear into him as he attempts to gather himself, pinning his leg to the ground and he screams out in pain. The Drinkwater Knight breaks off from his battle with Lucas Longwaters, who is outnumbered two to one by Ser Leo Langly and the former. He rips the helmet from your good-brother’s head and you think you see the words, “I yield!, escape his lips before the Drinkwater’s knife digs itself into his eye socket and Quellon’s body spasms with every wrench of it. The yell of anger that follows almost leads you away from your gallop, eyes watching as Prince Oberyn breaks off towards the other two dornish men with deadly intent. He catches the Yronwood unawares and his spear crushes into his shoulder and he is flung to the ground, Oberyn all but leaps from his horse after, catching himself in a roll and drawing a blade as he rushes down the Drinkwater.

Your eyes return to task, wildfire burning in them at the loss of your family. Of your friends. You mourned for Quellon but it would be not be for naught. You were at a disadvantage now, 4-5, but you would even that up soon enough. But when head turned you find the Hightower Knight doing his best to escape your wroth, a smarter man that most and you find him defending a still aride Lord Linden Langward who sneers at you with lance in hand and pointing towards the battlefield.
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>>3522640
>Malroy's become horse Bene Gesserits
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You turn Goldsong and find both Lucas and Wesley on the off foot, Lucas had taken a nasty fall and discarded his shield and is fending off a fully armoured Leo Langly, meanwhile Wesley had decided to aid the Prince and was fighting the Drinkwater Knight, though to little effect after the Prince had broken off to finish the Yronwood. You watch him take a hammer blow that puts him on bended knee and nearly shatters his shield. They were both in desperate need of aid and even with the anger in you fully alight and desiring for bloody revenge you knew that fighting against both Linden and the Hightower would be suicidal. You fling your broken shield to the ground, pulling up your sword in both hands, as hurt as the right might be and dig into Goldsong to charge. But… To whom?

Who will Brynden aid?
>Ser Lucas Longwaters
>Ser Wesley Hayford

Please roll 9D6+1 [4D(Fighting)+1D (Animal Cohort)-1D(Charge)+2B (Long Blades)+3B(War-Trained Mount)+1(Superior Bastard Sword] for Fighting (Long Blades)
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>>3522643
>negative 51 hp
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Rolled 1, 6, 1, 2, 3, 1, 1, 6, 6 + 1 = 28 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522649
>>Ser Wesley Hayford
Sorry Lucas hopefully you can last for a bit longer
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Rolled 4, 5, 3, 5, 4, 1, 2, 5, 2 + 1 = 32 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522649
>>Ser Lucas Longwaters
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Rolled 2, 5, 6, 6, 5, 4, 2, 2, 2 + 1 = 35 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522649
>Ser Wesley Hayford

Hard choice
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Rolled 4, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 6, 6, 6 + 1 = 34 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522649
>Ser Lucas Longwaters
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>>3522649

We Telltale now

>Ser Wesley Hayford
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Rolled 5, 2, 6, 4, 2, 1, 5, 3, 6 + 1 = 35 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522649
>Ser Lucas Longwaters
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>>3522649
>>Ser Lucas Longwaters

Oh fuck me
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>>3522649
Wesley Hayford
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I just had some food arrive so I'm going to let this vote go for another 10 minutes before I call it. After 340 PM EST, no more votes will be counted.
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Save Wesley you bastards!! Lucas is the better fighter, hopefully he can hang on for a moment longer.
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It's two v one. Wesley and Oberyn vs a Drinkwater
Then Lord Brynden and Ser Lucas vs Leo Langly
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>>3522649
>Ser Wesley Hayford
Oh God, Lucas please don't die
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>>3522649
>Ser Wesley Hayford
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>>3522649
>>Ser Lucas Longwaters
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>>3522678
It was two on one, but Oberyn ditched him to go fight Yronwood.
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>>3522649
>Ser Lucas Longwaters
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>>3522649
>Ser Lucas Longwaters
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>>3522649
>Ser Lucas Longwaters

Shield versus no shield
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>>3522653
22
>>3522654
20
>>3522655
23

>Lucas: 8
>Wesley: 6

Writing.
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>>3522697
Shouldn't we take the rolls that were for Ser Lucas?
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>>3522702
nah that's needless
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>>3522702
The dice are for Bryndens attack regardless, the best of the first three rolled normally, and the votes are for who we go to aid.
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>>3522640
We can sell them the lemon lame horses
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>>3522697
Oops sorry, those are going to be 21,19,22, because of the -1 you take from gaining an injury.

I also gave Brynden his War Lance base damage in the last combat instead of his bastard sword. Doesn't matter either way Cardyn was dead. But lol -51 health. So.
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>>3522705
Ok that makes sense. So how are these >>3522697 final numbers calculated?
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>>3522710
If you look at the formulas presented at the end of fathers post, a number with a d following it is a die, where a b is a bonus die. You then eliminate lowest numbers according to the number of bonus dice from your roll. So for example if you rolled 4d6D+ 2d6B and got 5,5,4,3,2,1 you would remove the two lowest dice because you have 2 of the dice you rolled were bonus dice.
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>>3522713
That changes your initial roll from a 20, to a final result of 17.
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>>3522713
Alright. So what do bonus dice do?
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>>3522720

1D is an extra 1d6 to your roll. 1B is an extra roll and drop the lowest. So 3D+1B is a total of four dice with the lowest dropped. Pretty simple.
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>>3522720
So take that example further right. You rolled 6 dice in total, 2 of which are bonus dice.

Your normal dice show 4,3,2,1

Your bonus dice show 5,5

You take the highest number you can get from your roll according to your regular dice. The bonus dice allow you a greater chance to roll higher, and cost significantly less experience to aquire.
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Glad to see you're back, Father!
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I hope these deaths won't ruin our relationship with the Celtigars and our brides family.
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>>3522749
Celtigars are shot to shit already. Our wife’s family like us, and these guys tried killing a head of household brother in law prior to the trial. It’s tragic but not our fault.
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We are taking some nasty losses
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Ser Leo Langly’s Attack I
DC: 5
Roll: 23
>Success, Four Degrees
>Damage: 5*4=20-10AR=10 Damage-4 Injury-4 Injury=2 Damage
>Ser Lucas Longwaters’s Health: 7-2=5 Health
Result: Ser Lucas Longwaters takes an injury (4/4)
Ser Lucas Longwater’s Attack I
DC: 11
Roll: 24
>Success, Three Degrees
>Damage: 5*3=15-10AR=5 Damage
>Seo Leo Langly’s Health:15-5=10 Health

Lord Brynden Malroy’s Attack I
DC: 11
Rolls: 22,20,23
>Success, Three Degrees
>Damage: 4+2 Charge+1 Unmounted Defender+1 Two-Handed Bastard Sword=8*3=24-10AR = 14 Damage-5 Injury=9 Damage
>Ser Leo Langly’s Health: 10-9=1 Health
Result: Ser Leo Langly takes two injuries (5/5), Ser Leo Langly yields


Goldsong swings towards the fences against, running the perimeter, you were lucky to still be aride, if you had lost him it might mean you wouldn’t be in time to help either. Lucas is deeply entrenched with his battle against Leo Langly, the man was as old as Lucerys you think, but he fought with such poise and strength it would appear he was a score of years younger. Lucas manages to get inside his guard, slashing away and managing to remove Langly’s helmet with the attack and then landing a punch with his free hand which results in both of the men reeling in pain. Langly looks like he has a broken nose but Lucas looks the worst for it, his off hand hanging limping by his side as he attempts to ward off a superior foe one-handedly. Langly turns with a vengeance, taking large, deliberate steps that push into Lucas’ guard, snapping a misplaced swing off to the side with his shield and pinning Lucas’ sword against the fence leaving his body fully exposed. The elder Knight takes a few deep cuts at Lucas, managing one against his leg which cuts him to his bended knee and a scream of pain, Langly doesn’t end there though taking the opportunity to drive his knee into Lucas and winding him. As you close in you see Lucas fall to the ground, his arm still pinned, the other useless coughing up blood and sputtering for breath.

Langly hadn’t seen you coming, so engrossed in his decimation of Lucas that he failed to notice you coming on his rear at a full gallop before it was too late. He turns his head slightly, and his eyes widen in fear the moment he sees you, arm’s fully extend and slashing at his face. Your blade finds bloody purchase. Slicing him from the base of his jaw, through teeth, his nose, and then outside his eye. His face snaps around, from whiplash and pain and soon he too is on the ground. His face a bloody ruin, teeth upon the ground. The once clean shaven and professional Knight now howled in pain. You rear up and dismount with a swing, coming to Lucas’ aid. The knight is still hacking up blood but is grateful when you come to him, lifting him up from under his bad arm which he winces away from in pain.
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“Bwoody tang is bwoken,” he manages out, you see he had bitten through his own tongue at some point, the majority of the blood on his armour and the ground having come from that. He spits at Langly on the ground, who has raised one hand while holding what remained of his face with the other, “Yiewd you fukken bastawd.”

“I-I-I ywe… ywe…” Leo Langly sputters out, he hadn’t the mouth to manage words any longer.

Lucas looks at you, shrugging slightly before slumping, a sign that he had accepted Leo’s yield, which was as good as your own, “I’m done Bwynden… Ain’t gowt anymowe in me…” You let his body down gently, signalling to the squires to come collect your friend at least he yet lived, you could say for certain whether or not Ser Leo Langly would survive with such a wound, but perhaps he would face further justice once this thing was done.

You flip your head around, suddenly remembering Wesley’s battle. And are struck with terror when you see the result of it, your legs pull you up, body aching, and they begin to run, your voice catches in your throat as you try to scream for him. There before your cousin laid dead the Knight of Drinkwater, he had managed to come back, killing him with a blow to his armpit that had gone out his neck, but he too was upon the ground, barely moving, picking himself up with a bloody wound across his face. You were too far, too damnable far. Wesley’s eyes meet your own as you rip your helmet from your head for want of air, he smile. The stupid fucking thing, all bloody but filled with joy, with life. Before it is snuffed out. His eyes of green fade, their light gone as his body shudders and he attempts to look back. The Hightower Knight’s blade digs deep into your cousin, with a twisted wrench it plunges deeper and Wesley’s face goes from joy to pain to nothing in an instant. Your voice finally finds itself and screams, the bloodiest of murder, the highest of curses, truly you hadn’t felt this pain since you had been told your sister was alive but hidden from you, held by the Red Bastard himself.

Before you can reach him Prince Oberyn collides with the Hightower Knight, his spear striking into his shoulder and pushing him off, leaving the sword behind in Wesley’s back. You skid to your knees before, turning him to his side and cradling his head in your lap, few words escape your lips, but the sting of wildfire falls from your eyes, “No, no, no, Wesley please, no Wesley.”

Your cousin’s eyes meet yours, their green fading further and further and his hand reaches up to you, which you grab and pull your cousin close. His voice was but a whisper, strained by that of death, the final words of your cousin, family that you held so dear and had so little of, “Ride unto the Sunset, cousin… For family... For Isis... Ride... Ride... Ri-” his voice ends with a slow hiss and his head falls limp in your arms death having taken its fourth bloody victim from you.
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You look up, heart in your throat wrenched with pain. You wished to mourn, to weep for those lost. But you could not. Your mind would not allow it, the sting of wildfire that fell from your eyes soon turned to roaring flaming, of anger so deeply seeded you could not, nay WOULD not be stopped from collecting your bloody Revenge against these bastard’s lackeys. Your body pulls up, your sword held aloft, eyes narrow upon Lord Linden Langward who still sits aride, lance in hand, his sneer never having left his face. Muscles begin to move upon their own, first a walk and then a jog, into a full blown sprint. You whistle, and Goldsong is soon by your side, as equally not out of this fight as you had been and you jump into the saddle, digging your spurs into him harder than you ever had before. His nostrils flare, as do your own. And you feel his hatred and anger as hard as your own. Linden’s face turns to a terror-stricken visage, digging into his own horse to attempt to meet you. You would not give him the chance.

Your voice finds itself again, first a primal yell, that bellows throughout the yard into a war cry, “WESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!”

Please roll 9D6+1 [4D(Fighting)+1D (Animal Cohort)-1D(Charge)+2B (Long Blades)+3B(War-Trained Mount)+1(Superior Bastard Sword] for Fighting (Long Blades)

That was the hardest death I've had to do.
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Rolled 3, 6, 1, 2, 4, 5, 1, 6, 1 + 1 = 30 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522781
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Rolled 1, 3, 2, 1, 4, 4, 1, 1, 6 + 1 = 24 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522781
FUCKING HELL THIS IS BULLSHIT, OH HE'S AGAINST ONE DUDE BUT HE JUST DIED YOU BASTARDS AND NOW WE JUST LOST OUR LAST COUSIN
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Rolled 5, 1, 3, 3, 2, 2, 6, 4, 5 + 1 = 32 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522781
I feel numb
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Rolled 3, 6, 5, 1, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4 + 1 = 35 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522781
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Rolled 1, 6, 5, 1, 3, 2, 2, 3, 5 + 1 = 29 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522781

Rolling
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Rolled 2, 6, 1, 2, 3, 2, 6, 4, 6 + 1 = 33 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522781
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>>3522785
22
>>3522787
17
>>3522789
20
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>>3522787
Wesley deserved better. We let him fight with us, and yet we chose Lucas over him when it was pretty obvious that one of them was going to die. I hope everyone who voted to save Lucas can live with themselves.
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>>3522785
21
>>3522787
17
>>3522789
20

-1 again for Brynden's injury.
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>>3522798
Fucking hell why is our side rolling so piss fucking poor against Langwards? Like the only one doing anything besides Brynden seems to be Oberyn and I wouldn't hold out hope the way the dice seem to be going.
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>>3522797
Fucking agreed.
>>3522804
I'm pretty sure our opponents are statted as full PCs
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What's the current count? We've lost the Chelsted knight, Longwaters, and Wesley, who is left standing on each side?
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>>3522807
Obviously but I'd still expect a better showing from some of our dudes at the very least. But they just seem to job when they really shouldn't.
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>>3522813
we also lost our brother in law
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>>3522813
I think it is just down to Hightower and Langward vs Brynden and Oberyn?
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>>3522797
I can live with myself pretty easily.
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>>3522804
Wesley killed the Drinkwater knight, and Oberyn is obviously wrecking face. But against PC level enemies, what can you do. Also...FUCK THAT FAGGOT HIGHTOWER. VENGEANCE FOR DAITH. VENGEANCE FOR LUCERYS. VENGEANCE FOR WESLEY!!

Fuck me. I shut down an entire drilling rig just see us abandon our cousin? I am fucking livid.
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>>3522815
Oberyn should have gotten the one hit backstab on that Yronwood knight freeing him up to help Wesley. Also I wonder if he's using poison on his blades in this fight.
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>>3522837
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE LEFT WESLEY ALONE. YES I AM MAD AND WOULD RATHER HAVE SACRIFICED LUCAS
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>>3522847
>>3522820

Honestly I'm just shocked we were fucking around fighting the Lantell when Oberyn clearly both wanted to handle him himself and was capable of doing so. We should never have left Wesley/Lucas's side in the first place.
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>>3522849
Dad did not give us a choice sadly.
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>>3522847
When we have a son, we name him Wesley. Plain and simple. No arguments. We do everything in our power to help the Hayfords. If his unborn child is a girl, we offer him on of our future sons, who will take the hayford name. Jesus Christ on a fucking matchstick.
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>>3522854
If we even survive this. The way it's been going though I wouldn't be shocked if Oberyn died fighting the Hightower and we get shanked in the back.
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Man we need to get sooooo much from this dude. I want his land and that title. He has to look guilty as fuck losing a trail bu 7
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>>3522857
Can Oberyn even die? Can we alter canon?
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>>3522857
Yeah I've got a bad feeling we'll kill Langward, but Hightower is going to be a fucking monster.

Don't think I didnt notice that retcon Dad, changing Cardyn Lannet to Cardyn Lantell. Titus Reynold would be ashamed...
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>>3522875
Canon is already altered with Wesley dead. There will be no baby Hayford in 15 years for the Lannisters to marry a cousin to. Unless Winston gets another kid.
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>>3522887
Wesley has a baby on the way with Lady Brune. So I mean I guess it's possible he the child becomes a parent at the age of 14.
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Fuck you dad
Fuck you so much
I'm gone ONE evening and you kill off Wesley

I want to strangle every single Hightower, Langward and Langly alive. And the queen.
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Lord Linden Langward’s Attack I
DC: 9
Rolls: 11, 13, 16
>Success, Two Degrees
>Damage: 7*2=14-10 AR= 4 Damage-4 Injury=0 Damage
Result: Lord Brynden Malroy takes an injury (2/4)

Lord Brynden Malroy’s Attack I
DC: 11
Rolls: 21,17,20
>Success, Three Degrees
>Damage: 4+2 Charge+1 Two-Handed Bastard Sword=7*3=21-10AR = 11 Damage-3 Injury-3 Injury -3 Injury= 2 Damage
>Lord Linden Langward’s Health: 9-2=7 Health
Result: Lord Linden Langward takes three Injuries (3/3)

The crowd had fallen into silence, the Trial had gone from bloodsport to a brutal affair, with dishonorable deaths, mutilation, and the bloody curses and damning of those left in anguish and pain. The silence is deafening but your warcry for revenge in honor of your fallen family stirs them, they crescendo as you ride down the Lord Langward and break into screams as the two of you meet.

He still had the reach, his lance left untouched and you knew without a shield you were likely to take the full force of it. Lord Linden Langward had been a formidable tourney Knight once, a man capable of unhorsing even a Malroy, or so told your uncle. But not this Malroy. His lance strike true into your shoulder, and you grunt and grit your teeth as he pushes through, the tip of the lance pierces your skin through your armour, a clean hole punched into it, though the pain is of little concern. Your legs hold onto Goldsong for dear life and the courser continues his momentum, that far exceeded the poorly trained and bred horse of your enemy. You swing your sword as best you can and make good on your revenge, the arch of your swing catch him in the leg and slicing from ankle, to knee, and outside the back of his thigh, through muscle, bone, stirrups, saddle and into the horse’s side as you come away. Part of the lance sticks in you the rest having broken away, your sword arm feels numb, and you attempt to shake it away to little effect. Ripping the piece out you gasp in pain but throw it to the side as you turn on Goldsong and gain measure of Langward.

The man is half bent over, gripping his bloody leg, the thing hung loose from your body, a clear chunk having been ripped away when the horse panicked in pain. His lance is now upon the ground and his shield is discarded as well to better hold together the ruin of his leg. A slop of gore drops from it, causing the crowd to gasp and groan in response, and the horse continues to pace wildly and without control as he attempts to hold his leg together, a poor effort in the end. You watch as he attempts to gain sight of you again, trying poorly to control his horse with a single leg as he rips the Valyrian steel blade of his family from its scabbard and points it to you with his free hand.
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Further away Ser Gerion Hightower and Prince Oberyn Martell continue their duel. The Prince is an equal match, perhaps even beyond the Hightower, his spear dancing across the heavily armoured knight’s body and placing nicks and cuts wherever he could find fleshy purchase and soft joints. Gerion in his rage lashes out, only to slammed in the head by Oberyn’s buckler and causing him to reel back, giving the Prince a chance to plant himself and not a moment later the spear into Hightower’s upper thigh, slicing upwards and out of his groin. You feel the man’s pain even yourself, and wince away from the sight as the crowd makes known their disgust.

Linden for his part has somewhat put together a counter attack, from the corner of your eye you see him regaining control of his horse, albeit for the moment, and beginning to haphazardly charge at you, one hand in the air with both rein and sword, the other holding his ruined leg. You dig into Goldsong, not as hard, and beginning into a canter that quickly turns to a gallop. You hear the man’s curious, his raving madness as you approach but it is drowned out by your horse, by your own mind’s singular focus. Revenge. Your sword positions itself, legs holding tightly and you brace for a final blow.

Please roll 9D6+1 [4D(Fighting)+1D (Animal Cohort)-1D(Charge)+2B (Long Blades)+3B(War-Trained Mount)+1(Superior Bastard Sword] for Fighting (Long Blades)

I'm sorry.
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>>3522889
Well Wesley wasn't gonna survive the WotFK anyway since Esmesande is the last of the Hayfords
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Rolled 1, 4, 2, 6, 3, 5, 5, 2, 6 + 1 = 35 (9d6 + 1)

HAYFORD!!!!!!
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Rolled 3, 5, 6, 2, 5, 5, 2, 1, 3 + 1 = 33 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522900
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Rolled 2, 6, 3, 6, 3, 6, 4, 2, 6 + 1 = 39 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522900

Rolling
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>>3522900
I forgot how to roll, hope this works
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Rolled 2, 1, 4, 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 4 + 1 = 23 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522900
Damn you
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Rolled 4, 5, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6, 4, 1 + 1 = 42 (9d6 + 1)

>>3522900

FUCK YOU LANGSHIT THAT SWORD IS OURS.
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Rolled 5, 5, 4, 6, 2, 1, 4, 3, 2 - 1 = 31 (9d6 - 1)

>>3522900
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>>3522908
ALL OF IT IS OURS. HIS LAND. HIS CHILDREN. HIS TITLE. HIS SWORD. HIS LIFE!!!!
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I also think it's a shame we didn't kill Langly. He would have done the same to us.

We better take everything Langward has, and if Langly gets his shit we make them a vassal house however we can.
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>>3522902
21
>>3522904
20
>>3522905
23 (maximum possible hit)


Did we take off his head Dad?
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>>3522902
21
>>3522904
20
>>3522905
23

-2 for Injuries that Brynden has taken. Writing.
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>see ASOIAF quest on akun (it is on its 2nd chapter)
>open it
>read character sheet
>16 years old, 500 normal xp and 150 specialty xp spent
>6 attributes and 2 DP
>negative outcomes on house history rolls just made into good ones so the house is super strong

Dad has spoiled me with difficult quests, I didn't even read that one. How overpowered can you be?

>>3522915
We could have hit 25, no?
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Yoooooooo

As mad as I am I have to admit that I'm still as attached to the characters as I was a year and a half ago. This is a god damn heart wrencher of a return thread dad. Holy fuck.
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>>3522919
23 is max with our injuries, if not for said injuries? It'd have been a 25.
And yeah I took one look at that quest and went, nope, not for me.
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KILLKILLKILL
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>>3522924
Ah, for some reason I missed a 6 and counted 6, 6, 6, 4 so I thought you hadn't subtracted the -2 for injuries yet
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>>3522921
I think it stands to show how invested we are to characters that Father has made that we get this angry and rage so much even after a long break. Even if we wish to have saved some.

But imagine if we didn't have the Viper with us how bad we'd be fucked right now.
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>>3522919
Yeah it's a real wank.
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>>3522932
>But imagine if we didn't have the Viper with us how bad we'd be fucked right now.
Yes, I admit my "neigh" vote on that was dumb and I am glad y'all aren't as dumb.

>>3522936
I pointed it out in chat and they didn't even accept my criticisms. They thought it wasn't a ridiculous character build, even for a 16-year-old.
Also apparently at the end of chapter 1 the MC got a blowjob from Cersei.
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>>3522781
Is our Knights really that bad? Are you not rolling it that way? or are they destined to die?
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>>3522940
I really didn't want to bring Wesley into it but there was no hope of that. But now it is the end with all but that langlky fuckstick dead on their side.
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>>3522940
It must have been set in the show universe. With that in mind those stats are on the modest side.
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>>3522940
>Also apparently at the end of chapter 1 the MC got a blowjob from Cersei.

Depending on the circumstances, that's the most believable thing.
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>>3522940
Honestly I'm only in there to shit post. Our house name is whitefyre for christ sake
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>>3522936
How good are the recent asoiaf quests that have been popping up here?
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>>3522946
The Reynold quest one seems okay but I haven't been in the threads after like the first one after house creation.
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>>3522878
>spoiler

Not going to lie, I think I did that by accident, but it works out so well now I'm not mad at it. I know we're 4 years ahead of Reynold, but I hope Titus is still alive to see his family die. I'll DM Joe at some point and we'll figure out who Cardyn was to Titus.

Anyway still writing, just had to catch up on comments real quick. I can't say I'm shocked at the anger, but god damn.
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>>3522946
Reynold is good
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>>3522946
Meh
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>>3522942
Honestly there was never any chance of keeping Wesley out: It would have been unacceptably OOC.
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>>3522919
>see ASOIAF quest on akun
Where?
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>>3522948
I know you get off on making us suffer, Dad. You weren't catching up on comments, you were jerking off.

You fucker

>>3522952
anonkun, or as it is now called fiction.live
It's a platform for quest running. It's mostly shit like /qst/ but there is good ones.
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>>3522952
https://fiction.live/stories/A-Song-of-Ice-and-Fire-The-Shadow-of-the-Dragon/X3afbg4ZKpcJ5vDMK/House-Whitefyre-and-Vassal-House-Sheets/kwWGroyRM3YAxQ9aP
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>>3522948
Come on dad ya know Wesley was one of our favourite characters right? Not to mention our LAST cousin from the Hayford's and now his dad is going to just shut down completely and blame Brynden for everything ill becuase of us he lost his last two sons.
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>>3522946
Blacksand is pretty decent. Qm is decent but has issues with his net. Play a HDW whose father was a Baratheon footman who got knight for killing Ser Darry.


We're decent in a fight with a loving husband who's great with books and book keeping. Issue is a lot of our neighbors HATE us.
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>>3522956
Not to mention he lost both of his sons BECAUSE of Brynden. God damn this is going to be such a shitshow if we get out alive.

>>3522948
Sounds like a plan stan!!


>tfw sleepy doesnt hate your quest (pic related)
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>>3522948
You fuck off twice without warning then kill a favorite character, of course people are pissed.

And I'm still not dropping that bullshit, fuck you for quitting and saying nothing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8pd99KBLjs
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>>3522962
EH?? Why do ya feel that way randomanon who is most likely joe?
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>>3522977
EH? Oh my God tell me your canadian Sleepy. PLEASE.
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Lord Brynden Malroy’s Attack I
DC: 11
Rolls: 21,20,23
>Success, Three Degrees
>Damage: 4+2 Charge+1 Two-Handed Bastard Sword=7*3=21-10AR = 11 Damage-11 Wound = 0 Damage
>Lord Linden Langward’s Health: 7-0=7 Health
Result: Lord Linden Langward takes a wound (⅔) (-2D) and has taken 3 Injuries (3/3) (-3)

Lord Linden Langward’s Attack I
DC: 9
Rolls: 4,0.1
>Failure
>Lord Brynden Malroy’s Health: 8 Health
Result: Lord Brynden Malroy is unscathed and has taken 2 Injuries (2/4) (-2)

You meet him at a gallop, your blade finding itself upon his neck and through his ear and out the backside of his head with ease. So focused your mind was, so engrossed by the wrathful spirit of Revenge that had stirred in your heart for what felt like the first time in months, years even. Today you were the Warrior personified, nor the Father, nor any other aspect, no. You were the Stranger. A harbinger of death come to take its toll. No songs would be sung of this bloody encounter, of valour and honour upon the battlefield. Only stories, of a man who had lost it all, family and fortune, indebted to a Crown and King who was not his own, but had come back from the brink the take it all back, and he would do so with wrathful vengeance.

As storied as the Valyrian Steel blade was it did little to harm you, Linden twisted away in the pain you had inflicted and his sword harmlessly bounces off your pauldron before falling to the ground. It had never began to rain you realize. Though the clouds had threatened and thunder yet boomed in the distances it had not seen fit to turn this into an affair of mud and muck. But rather left it alone so you may smell the piss and shit and keep the tang of bloody iron upon your tongue. Goldsong slows and you direct him to turn, keeping a canter as you come up on the done Lord Linden and a horse that is ready to die at any moment. When you come to his side he looks at you with spite, as much as one can with half his face torn away, and attempts to spit at you but is caught off guard when you take a slash at the last of the stirrups keeping him in place and then ungracefully wrench him from his mount and into the dirt. A slap from the flat side of your sword sends him horse running and you are left with a man wounded, injured, and still filled to the brim with madness, cursing you still upon the ground.
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You look up at the last moment, after regarding Linden with little more than pitiful distaste and watch as the Prince takes the last of his strikes against Ser Hightower. His spear drives deep into his shoulder, and the Red Viper of Dorne pushes the bastard onto his knees, kicking out what fight was left in him with a pommel shot of a knife to his groin. Coming up on them you dismount from Goldsong, a sharp pain in your leg rings true as you stand, another token of war, and you limp your way over to the man. The Prince looks to you, the amusement having run from his face and into a serious facade you had never seen before. He had a swollen lip, several cuts, a black eye, and a deep gash on his left hand where his buckler had been but otherwise had come out unscathed. He holds the knife out for you, and you give him a queer look, before he speaks through ragged breath, “This death does not belong to me Lord Malroy. A man who kills another’s family deserves to die by the hand of those that yet remain and remember.”

He turns from you muttering under his breath, the name Elia escaping as you take the knife. It is a light thing you realize, you fear it might break when plunged into a man. Your hand reaches out and takes the helmet off of the Hightower, and he looks done, blood runs from his lips, his eyes dark and hollow, he barely regards you beyond a hazy stare. The blade of the knife comes to your lips and you whisper to it, “This is for Ambrose. For Lucerys. For Wesley. This is for my family.”

The blade does not break, but bends easily when you twist it, the thing plunged deep into Ser Gerion Hightower’s temple. His body falls to the wayside and you turn back. Watching as Lord Linden Langward attempts to crawl through the hard dirt and grass for his blade, the last piece of prestige his House might yet own. You’d take it, you thought, take it all, his lands, his titles, his children as wards and hostages. End the life of every single Langward yet remaining. The two of you stalk up to him from behind, the crowd a whispering murmur. Just as he is about to clutch the hilt of Godscrown the Prince’s spear pins his hand to the ground and he screams in whatever anguish he had left, his voice hoarse and useless now. He turns his head to you, a mask of red and anger.

“I yield,” he spits at you, “I bloody yield you Seven forsaken bastard.”
Prince Oberyn looks to you, and your mind stops. Blank for lack of thought.

Do you…
>Accept his yield, keeping him alive for further justice
>Not accept his yield, killing him now

It is done.
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>>3522986
>>Not accept his yield, killing him now
USE HIS SWORD TO DO IT AND THEN KEEP IT.

>>3522981
No am burger.
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>Accept his yield, keeping him alive for further justice
I want it in writing that we get his shit
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>>3522986
>Not accept his yield, killing him now
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>>3522986
>Not accept his yield, killing him now
We are vengeful, and if one man other than Redward deserves our vengeance it is that man.

I second >>3522989
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>>3522986
>Accept his yield, keeping him alive for further justice
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>>3522986
Do not. I also dig using his own sword against him. Vengeance is now.
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>>3522984
>>3522986

Ayy, my roll finished it!

>Accept his yield, keeping him alive for further justice

Steal his shit legally.
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>>3522986
>Not accept his yield, killing him now
+1 with his own sword
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>>3522986
>>Accept his yield, keeping him alive for further justice
If he's alive that means we come cuck him for all he's worth. Being found guilty in the eyes of the seven. Plus he's fucking crippled
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It's kill him now or kill him later
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Going to take a quick break to stretch and get some fluids. Vote will be up for another ~10 minutes. No more votes will be accepted after 620PM EST.
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>>3522998
>Being found guilty in the eyes of the seven
Him losing the trial of seven by his guys dying or yielding also proves him guilty in the eyes of the seven. That is the point of the trial.
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>>3522986
If he had yeilded on the courtroom, none of these people would be dead. Too little to late. Kill him with his own sword.
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>>3522986
>>Accept his yield, keeping him alive for further justice
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>>3522986
Ask him if the ones he killed yielded ask him if you should show the same restraint that he showed them

Hopefully they said yield because this wouldn't work if they hadn't
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>>3523000
>get some fluids
See... He spent all his fluids jerking off to our anger

Love ya dad <3
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>>3523001
That's my point, if he's still alive looking pitiful cowardly, and damned by the gods I feel we can get better recompense
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>>3522989
Ah my hope's are dashed. Just never was much of a tripfag myself, but if you are on twitter, I wouldnt mind picking your brain for some input. Dont want to take away from this magnificent moment. Love, Joe.

Based on this level of anger, I'm honestly dreading the arguments that are going to happen when it comes to the redward girls...
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We're guaranteed all his stuff if we let him yield? Also what's to say he survives his wounds?
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>>3522986
>Not accept his yield, killing him now
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>>3523012
>redward girls
They did nothing wrong though. In a previous thread people suggested sending Isis and the girls to the villa in King's Landing, which I think is a good compromise.
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>>3523000

Make him beg. Press the sword against his throat and make him fucking beg for it.
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>>3523012
>Based on this level of anger, I'm honestly dreading the arguments that are going to happen when it comes to the redward girls...

Thats easy. We press a pillow onto their faces when they mom is busy
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>>3523008
Or we kill him and do like Gary Oldman and take EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING FROM HIS FFAMILY.

>>3523012
Man those discussions are crazy. But targfag had the best idea for them. Let them live in the KL villa with Isis as it keeps them away from him buit also keeps Isis close to Bryn
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Brynden vs Mervyn. Who wins ?

>>3523019
Yeah in seriousness. That was also my prefered suggestion.
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I feel like I'm the only one who really preferred Lucas to wesley and is glad he's alive. Which seems strange, he's usually super popular.
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>>3523017
For clarification this is a vote to spare, but we're not going to let him get off so easily as just accepting his surrender off the bat
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>>3523024
I liked Lucas better as well, actually. It was jus a hard choice to make, since both characters are total bros
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The difference is probably negligible. Accepting his yield is probably the more chivalrous thing to do. And we would be able to take control of his assets as part of his punishment.

Kill him and we just take what we want from his living relatives by right of force.

Works out either way.
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>>3522986
>>Not accept his yield, killing him now
Do it with his own sword
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>>3523031
With how many family members and friends we've just lost because of him the vengeful way seems to be the most ic.
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>>3522986
>accept his yield, steal his shit legally
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>Accept: 6
>Deny: 8

Killing him it is. By way of his own sword. Close votes today.

To clarify you can still get his clay and whatever else whether he was alive or dead. You'd have different routes with him alive, but you still have just as good chance to take things otherwise. A Trial by Seven, with signed witness by Lord Mace Tyrell, Lord Randyll Tarly, Lord Mattias Rown, and Lord Paxtar Redwyne still gives you some seriously legal clout to work with.

Anyway, writing.
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If we give up anything I would say the hostages. The lands title and sword are the most important.
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>>3523052
Well I can tell you this for free. We are taking his sword with us right now. If his bitch ass son wants it back he can come take it from us.
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>>3523052
Strongly disagree. The hostages would keep the Langwards and Langlys sidelined for the rest of the conflict with Royce. We're pretty much doing to the Langwards as Robert did to the greyjoys, sans accepting yield.
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>>3523056
Yeah honestly he still owes us some lives. We should his kill soldiers and smallfolk. Burn his castle down. Torture his family.
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>>3522986
>Not accept his yield, killing him now
Why should we show mercy and accept his yield when he didn’t accept our family’s yield?
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>>3522986
>Not accept his yield, killing him now
With his own sword.
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How the fuck did our enemies suddenly turn into such deadly and competent fighters? Was it just for the sake of killing off our family and adding drama? Artificially inflating these nobody shits?
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>>3523068
Dice don't lie mate
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>>3523068
I'm just spitballing here, but I think all 14 members of the trial here were at least secondary character level, with Hightower probably being a full MC specced in fighting
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>>3523068
Dad's punishing us for him running off. Or he wants to force a conclusion then fuck off again. I wouldn't be surprised if we still get fucked over by some legal bullshit.
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>>3523068
I also hope this isn't the case but I'm pretty sure our team just rolled bad
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>>3522986
>Accept his yield, keeping him alive for further justice
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>>3523061
By taking all that we would be totally fucking them up even without the hostages. If they still decided to fight with Royce then we go and take all their land and execute the entire family. If they fight then we have the legal right to take more from them.
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>>3523068
Langward has been preparing for war for quite some time. He likely had men of skill around anyway, which is why he demanded a trial of seven.

As seen by the fact that Brynden had to ask the Prince, his family, and a literal who messenger, he was less prepared.

Had Dontos been available to replace one of the weaker fighters this would likely have resulted in Langwards side being steamrolled.

Its debatable whether or not going to save Hayward would have killed Lucas. All I can say is Oberyn was closer to him than the other.

likely, Hightower would have intervened in whichever conflict Brynded hadnt, sealing that person's fate.
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This was my first Malroy thread, and that was a pretty fucking awesome fight
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>>3523150
Father is, with a considerable margin, the best GoT QM there has been on 4chan. You should really read through the archives of this quest.
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>>3523138
>As seen by the fact that Brynden had to ask the Prince, his family, and a literal who messenger, he was less prepared.
We didn't exactly have any choices regarding that
>>Its debatable whether or not going to save Hayward would have killed Lucas. All I can say is Oberyn was closer to him than the other.
No it's not, that was peak Telltale "choose who to save. no saving throws"
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>>3523150
>>3523153

>Father is, with a considerable margin, the best GoT QM there has been on 4chan
Without a doubt. Also you mean 4channel :^^^
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>>3523150
I binged through the whole archive last week its great
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>>3523154
Well only thing to do is write your own superior quest.
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>>3523153
Bar none. He may quite possibly be the best QM on /qst/, and certainly was on /tg/
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>>3523161
>He may quite possibly be the best QM on /qst/
I'm not sure about that, whenever I scroll through the catalog everything here seems either stupid or short so I don't read much here.
>and certainly was on /tg/
I'm partial to Warlord myself, but that is because I am a filthy degenerate
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Man did dad leave again?
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>>3523170
I dont read much here myself, apart from GoT quests and the occasional odd short evolution quest. But still, his writing is phenomenal
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>>3523161
he does have slight issues with getting lost inside stores.
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>>3523174
he said he'd be out to get cigs and milk
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>>3523177
I'll definitely concede that. There are a fuckton of characters and plots going on
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>>3523154
This. It felt like he just picked people on our side to die every round, and there was nothing to prevent it at all. No agency, nothing. No chance to save them. Just pick which of our family or friends gets to live, because they suck ass and will all die immediately without your direct intervention.
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I for one am fine with the way the Trial went. Well, not fine, but mechanically I think Dad did fine. It's normal that in a 7v7 where people try to kill each other some of our teammates die.
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Welcome back to running Father, it has been quite a while since I saw the Malroy banner.
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>>3523209
Obella is gonna be devestated
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>>3523209
I'm starting to think we were better off with dad still at the gas station.
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>>3523209
Well, minus the part where only 3 people on our side survived. And that’s after we got Oberyn fucking Martell to fight on our side.
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>>3523215
She'll be happy we lived though
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>>3523221
A brother dead and the other maimed.
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Stop being little bitches, shit happens and people die. Everyone knew what was going to happen when they agreed to be a part of this.
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>>3523228
This
I still mourn for Wes though
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So dad left us again. Someone else want to take a stab at writing the next part?
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>>3523228
Aside from Oberyn and ourself, literally nobody on our side managed to even defend themself properly. They were just there to be slaughtered until Oberyn or Brynden comes by to kill their opponent for them.
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>>3523232
>>3523232
Bryden woke up from a horrible dream. He saw that Wesely and his brother in law sleeping peacefully
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>>3523232
Absolutely not that's kind of rude maybe if the quest just started and on thread one
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>>3523239
He ran off twice before, so it's not impossible.
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>>3523239
Well technically its thread 53. But dont worry, it's all a jest anon
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Aside from Oberyn and Brynden, nobody on our side in the fight had higher than 2 Fighting, Endurance, Athletics, Agility, and Animal Handling skill. Literal children who’s only purpose was to distract the enemy while Brynden and Oberyn kill everyone else.
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You circle around him, the air felt alive upon your tongue, electric coursing through it as the wind died down and the crowd fell into a hush. Your eyes scan the crowd, you watch the looks of terror, of drunken delight, of pained mourning. The entirety of the Conklyn family has left the stands, likely to see to Lucas. The two dornish congregations eye each other with tense passive aggression. The High-Lords of the Reach all regard you with a mixed viewing. Mace Tyrell looks to be sick, Paxtar Redwyne a look of shock upon his face, Mattias and Randyll are stone faced accustomed to war and just as fine with the outcome. Turning back to Linden you see his face wrenched with pain, his fingers still scrap at the dirt, attempting to reach Godscrown despite being held fast by the Prince’s spear. You kneel next to him and look him in the eye, they reflect your wildfire, your hatred, your wroth and his stammering and words fall silent as he realizes that you would never accept his yield. Slowly you reach over him, gripping the valyrian steel blade that hung so closely yet so incredibly far from his fingertips with your own. It was a blade unfitted for such a man, a man inflicted with madness and a complex to match, it was the blade of your ancestors. But still perhaps not your own to claim. You run your thumb along the edge, a thin sheen of blood coming from it, sharp as ever it would seem. Linden watches you, as you stand, as you regard, watching the crowd, the Prince, the folk both small and noble. And without a word you plunge the blade into his neck.

He gurgles a moment, the last vestiges of life leaving him, what blood was left in his ramshackled body escaped from his lips, no more curses to follow. His eyes turn hollow but remained fear stricken, as if he had seen the face of the Stranger itself before his final second on this earth. You wrench the blade free, its black sheen glimmering even in the dark day of thunder and clouds. The crowd seems uncertain, of whether to cheer or boo or how to react at all. You rotate on heel, your own pains coming in waves from the battle, you would need to see Benjin for certain. Godscrown finds its way onto your belt loop, a final bloody trophy for the time being and you stalk before the Lord’s box giving as stiff a bow as you possible can manage before leaving the field, the Prince not long after.

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In the days that followed you were allowed time to heal, to mourn, for respite. When you had come upon Lucas all battered as he was it was Lady Racheal Conklyn who had found her way to you first, sobbing for either pain or joy. Grant was not soon to follow, even though his time with your family and as Lucas’ squire had been short he was still a part of your family, of your House. You’d hope he’d remember such as he grows into his Lordship. Lucas for his part had slept for three days before awakening, when he learned of what had transpired he had only sat wordless before the tears came to him as well. Wesley and him had become brothers, bonded in battle and by service, he took it the hardest, harder than you had perhaps, for guilt seemed to have struck his heart that he may live while Wesley had died.

“His child…” he had said, “I will do everything for it. Boy or girl, I bloody swear it Brynden, that child shall not grow without a father or knowing who their father was. I swear it. I swear it.”

And so too did you.

His body had been prepared as had Ser Raymun Chelsted and Ser Lucerys Celtigar to return home to their respective burial places. You knew you would not be welcomed on Claw Isle and sent your distant cousin’s body ahead of you, so that it may know peace. Ser Raymun would be next, he had a family to return to and you would bring them your condolences in time, while Wesley was last. You would stop at Hayford along the way home to Steadhold, Lord Winston be damned, he was your family and you would see him buried properly. You did not look forward to the encounter, no, but it was your duty to your family.

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Lord Quentyn Qorgyle had his own pains to deal with, between the broken leg and the loss of his only brother. The two of you had spent the better part of a night deep in your cups together, laughing, crying, mourning, and ultimately swearing to honor him. He knew that your beloved wife would take it the hardest, as would their mother that yet remained in Steadhold, “But at least you will return to her good-brother,” he had said, “We will mourn our brother but she will still find her joy and peace in you, if I know my sister half as well as I think.”

Reminded of their tense relationship and their brother being the only thing holding them together you remark, “Lorelei will still need her uncle, Obella will need her elder brother. Do not think to leave her life again Quentyn, you two are all you have left now.”

He sighs deeply, taking from his cup fully and nodding, “Wise words Lord Malroy.

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>>3523228
Went better than some Trial of Seven combats. Lucas is still alive. And Leo might survive and a few of the enemy could just be injured. Oberyn is alive but that was a given.
King Maegor was the only survivor of his combat of seven
>>3523235
Wesley killed his dude with a only a injured face.
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The edict of your victory in the Trial by Seven and that Lord Linden Langward had been found guilty of all of his crimes had come early one morning, while Maester Benjin tended to your wounds. You read over it quickly and eye Langward’s sword that lies beyond in your personal chest. The edict recommends several forms of compensation, lands and titles chiefly among them, as well as details entailing further punishment for the Langward family should they be found to be entering into further illegal activities, namely wards and hostages. You take this as to be a sign of support should the Langwards be a part of these supposed bandit encampments outside of your and the Chelsted’s borders. Benjin mentions that the Lord Linden had a young brother, Ser Lestor Langward, who might be behind these bandit armies, their dead man’s trigger so to speak. He also mentions his sons, Lucos and Landon, and a daughter Cersei. The former most had been his heir and is effectively the Lord of Langward now. For better or worse as a child of four-and-ten. He comments that Ser Leo Langly is likely to survive his wounds, a shocking thing, but will be heavily disfigured and likely allowed for further sentencing given his part in the trial and plots of the mad Langward. He suggests the Night’s Watch, perhaps the best outcome a former head of house could hope for, and putting your support behind Ser Lyonel Langly to take what is his by right. A part of you knows that the Tear could be taken by your own men, execute Ser Leo, exile Lyonel, be done with the family, make them extinct by marrying the last daughter of the House to one of your men and turning it into your vassal. How far would your wroth take you, you did not know, but for now you kept the subject mume. You’d need to gather more resources and finish these bandits before either could be entertained.

The days of the grand Tourney of Highgarden come to an end, you feast a few more times, meet with those few that seeked your attention, namely Ser Olymer Tyrell to finish your trade agreements, the dornish congregation that had sided with the Prince for a day of mourning and drink as was the dornish way, and Lord Merryweather to assure him you would not be backing out of your trade deal and not but with a roar but rather a whimper the events come to an end and you find yourself on your way home. A brief moment had been spent paying your respects to the young Tyrell heir, Willas, who for his part had seemed in fair spirits, he promised that he would still be up to visit when the lands about Steadhold were safe and he was able to ride again, trade of horse still happily upon the young man’s mind, though Benjin would later go on to confide in you that it was doubtful the Lordling would ever ride again, let alone walk.
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A number of Knights and men-at-arms had joined you along the way. A Ser Nathan Norridge had pledged his services to you as well as a company of heavy cavalry after the trial, a welcomed sight to your army though it did mean you would be stretched even more thin. As too had a man known as Rolf Harling, a wartime engineer who had been a member of the Tyrell army during the Usurper’s war, though he was just as much at home when it came to building and rather rebuilding defensive fortifications, something that was desperately needed given the Outer Wall’s current status and the port districts decaying docks and marketplace. He did not ask for much, a place upon your war council so he may give wisdom should times of siege occur or rather if they were planned, and a small plot of land beneath Aeson’s Hill that he may build his own home upon and call his own, easy concessions.

The procession was a long thing, which drove you nearly to madness several times. You missed your home, your wife, your daughter, your son. You feared for them, would Lestor be so bold as to attack while you were away, could news of his brother’s death come to him so quickly? Quicker than you at least. Would the Crown intervene? The Hand would not be so lax you reason, he owed you still. You finally come upon King’s Landing via the Roseroad and are so relieved for it you hardly recognize the greeting party.

A number of your Household Garrison, Jonos Stroumen included stood there, as well as the Sons of Gold, lead by Solhas va Tarbeck. And among them, in all her beauty with babe in her arms was your wife, your beloved wife and child, Lady Obella Qorgyle and Lorelei Malroy. You swing down from your horse and run to meet them both, your injuries still stung but you held them close. Obella had never been easy to fall to tears but the rush of emotion and knowledge she had of her brother’s death came on like a wave and she sobbed into your doublet for some time before breaking away so you might hold your daughter. As bubbly and pure as she had been before you left.

“Why do you meet me here?” you ask though, climbing into her carriage behind her and taking a grateful seat.

She coils her arm through yours and buries her face into your shoulder, “I could no longer bare to be in Steadhold. The Crown saw fit to send aid, as we thought they might but…”

You give her a strange look, playing with Lorelei idly, “But?”

“The man they sent… I could not bare the sight of him in our halls, upon your seat, feasting at our table as Ser Mason attempted to keep him from riding out without you,” she almost spits but catches herself, “Not to mention the company he keeps. Lords of the West, sent as a ‘peace keeping’ force, no doubt the Queen’s sick and twisted joke that the Lord Hand could not say no to for fear of incident. I hate him Brynden. I detest him. The damned Kingslayer.”
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This time she does spit and hardly feels abashed. Your eyes had remained focused on Lorelei’s own, her pools of purple reflecting your wildfire. Ser Jaime Lannister, in your halls, with Westerlanders no less, the same that once ransacked your home and betrayed your family not two years past. The heat in you rises, fire threatening to boil over. Surely the Queen had something to do with it, still petty as ever about your Uncle thrashing her dog Ser Boros Blount and your family winning a frivolous trial so easily. You held Obella close and kept your anger, it would do no good to use it here. The politics of the Crownlands were ever present, even in war and in your home. With Lord Linden dead you still returned the victory and could more easily dictate what would occur, no doubt Jaime Lannister would have his fits but Seven be damned those were your halls and this was your war.

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You spend a night in King’s Landing at the family’s manse. Obella had done a well enough job of having it made useable for her extended stay in the city and so that Lorelei may be comfortable. Rickard Wence was happy to host her, though did make a passing comment of perhaps having the funding to rebuild in full soon, so that the Malroys may once again take their place in King’s Landing and that the deeds of the past may be forgotten. Jonos Stroumen had sworn to stay by her side, and though it made you uneasily to have your Household garrison away from home it felt safer to have them protecting your wife and daughter. The night was filled with passion, Obella had missed you so that she hadn’t even bothered to be sure that she would not be pregnant, taking you in fully several times throughout the night through tears of pleasure and pain. You spoke at length about your cousin, her brother, sharing a mutual mournfulness for the lost, but a renewed fire to honor them both. She had been hard at work at building her spy network, more than a few had found purchase in the Langward’s lands following the fall out of the Trial by Seven and she intended to build that network hard and fast as a foothold for the others.
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In the early morning you left off alone to the Red Keep, and found your sister, tending to Lady Arryn. You stalked her about the gardens for a moment before she broke away and flung herself into your arms. She had heard of Wesley too, and though she did not cry, for she had no more tears left to spare she knew the pain you felt. It was good to see her, albeit briefly, and you are lead away to her room where her daughters are, the twins. It is hard to look at them, but she cooes and showers them with love regardless, they were your family too she told you, the sins of their father do not belong to them. You hold each a moment, the smattering of freckles and red hair reminding you too much of the Red Bastard. Isis cares for them deeply you knew, out of guilt or love you could not say, perhaps it was both. But all the same, she would not be parted you knew, but that was a road you would cross when you came upon it once their father was dealt with.

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You travel to Hayford alone. Sending the Sons of Gold, your Household Knights, Lucas and the others on ahead of you to Steadhold, to gain some semblance of traction before your arrival so that you may reign in the possible all out war soon to occur. Hayford is in mourning as you arrive. Wesley’s body ahead of you, upon Goldsong, one last stop old friend, you promise. Traveling to the keep is a dour thing and you receive several looks from the guards as you pass, unmolested but all the same. The Lady Brune is there to greet you, alone bar a guard, heavily pregnant but still standing resolute, those of the Crackclaw Point were made of harder things. She hardly cried when you offered your arm and condolences, but asked a simple question, “Did he die as he would have wanted to?”

It was not a death of dignity you knew, nor of honor, but he had died fighting for something he believed it, for your family, for you, so you answer simply, “Yes my Lady. He did.”

Lord Winston however, was in no mood for such platitudes.

“YOU DEFILE MY HALLS WITH YOUR PRESENCE MALROY!” he raged at you the moment eyes had laid upon you, “It is not enough for me to lose one son to your pointless wars but TWO! And you have the audacity to appear here, for what!”

He looked thin, his face lined with loss and sorrow, eyes red, his beard wispy, he was half the man you had once known.

“I come to offer condolences, to see my cousin buried properly, uncl-”

“COUSIN? UNCLE!?” he screams, voice hoarse, Lady Brune flinching away. He stands, coming down the stairs to meet you face to face. He had once been a mighty warrior, tall and strong, but now his skin sagged and his eyes were hollow, his bony finger reaches to the tip of your nose and almost with a whisper he speaks, “Lord Malroy you are no family of mine. Begone from my halls so that I may be done with the curse of the Malroys that has lead my family to such ruin.”
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You were hardly left a choice, several guards taking up their arms when your finger twitches upon Godscrown, still upon your belt. You are escorted away by tip of sword and banished from the Keep. No sight nor sound of you allowed near Wesley’s burial. The trip home had been harder than the rest.

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Steadhold upon the horizon is a welcomed sight. One for sore eyes, for burnt out flame. Hearth and home had never truly been so sweet. You see several encampments upon Aeson’s Hill, that of the Chelsteds brightly among them, you hoped Dontos and Victus would be amongst them, but are filled with dread upon the sight of the Lannister arms and at least three other Westerlands, the Baneforts being the ones most recognizable to you. Little is done in the way of greetings for their Lord as you enter the Kingsgate from the east. Though you do see Mason riding down in a hurry, once a horn is blown to announce your arrival. The two of you embrace from horseback and you offer congratulations to his titles and lands, something he looks away sheepishly at. He informs you of the going ons since your departure. Of the men under the former Fairbanks and their little guerilla war he had entertained before squashing them with the aid of House Drox. Of the Westerland Lords who had been hosted in your castle. And of his own joy, that Lady Elionwy was with child and their wedding would be held soon after all was done and dealt with, he did wish to ask favors of you, but kept it held until the next time the council could meet. So that you may make a more informed decision. As you two speak along the way to Steadhold proper you find yourself surrounded by smallfolk, but not rabble and unhappiness, but rather joy, that they were fed and that the Lady Obella had been so kind to them and wonder when she might be home next. Mason merely shurgs, and you allow a smile to dance upon your lips for a moment before entering the greathall of the castle as the Sons and Knights pushed them off and sent them home. The greathall was filled to burst as you enter, but it did not quiet as it usually did when you entered, the racourus Westerlanders keeping their conversations and revelry alive well and loud. You look upon your seat and eyes come ablaze with wildfire as Ser Jaime Lannister stares back at you, a cocksure smile upon his face, before standing and bowing with great flourish and speaking, a thing that silences the room, “Lord Malroy. How good of you to finally join us.”

[End Chapter LIII]
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>>3523265
Oh great.

And if this keep up Obella is gonna have her second pregnancy earlier than she had planned.

Thanks for running Father. I have sorely missed this
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>>3523265
Thanks for the run padre.

Why couldn't we make any decision during the trial besides helping lucas or wesley?
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>>3523265
Thanks dad I'm gald you're back.

I really hope everyone shitting on you for the fight, and the leaving, doesn't dampen your mood too much.
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>>3523265
Thanks for running, Dad
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Alright so I know I glossed over a lot there. But it was a lot of things I felt necessary to be said and done so we could get to a good zero point going forward on the quest. I tried to reintroduce everyone that I could, barring Dontos and Victus who will receive their own scene next thread. And I may have missed some things but honestly remembering as much as I have has been something else.

Anyway to address a few things:

The way the Trial by Seven went was largely by dice roll. Each side had two PCs, yours Brynden and Oberyn and the other Hightower and Linden. Each side also had 4 Secondary characters, a la Lucas, Lucerys, Wesley, Quellon & Leo, Lantell, Yronwood, and Drinkwater, and each had a tertiary character, aka Raymun and Vyrwel. Whenever it comes to secondary and tertiary characters literally the name of the game is who strikes first and who strikes harder. Yes, their side got a lot of early hits in, no I did not mention every single one, no I did not mention the fights that the other characters had because I was focused mostly on Brynden and not turning this into a slog that would kill my drive to write. Was it perhaps a disservice to the other characters who died? Maybe, possible. But I'm not going to apologize for trial by seven between two warring factions being incredibly bloody and deadly. Historically speaking in Westeros more than 1 or 2 living participants is a rarity. Let alone 4. I'd say you got away relatively unscathed. And as I've said before I am not afraid to play the setting. If someone dies, then they did. And that is it. I won't argue about it, nor explain myself further, if you do not like how things went down I apologize but you need to come to your own peace over it.

Second, why'd you leave?

So this is an incredibly personal thing. But following my failure to keep up with Grallner I was having issues with my job, my relationship, and my father. I began drinking more heavily and ultimately ended up bottoming out. My father passed away and I was in a depression that I couldn't do anything with. I tried to get some mojo back working on the Steadhold map and the Dorne House creation thread but I simply wasn't in a good place. Is it an excuse for disappearing and not saying anything? No. But it is my life and my decisions and I own that. Going forward I will try to be more transparent. But I'm also not going to spill my life on a Taiwense shadow puppet forum. So yeah.

Anyway, missed you guys. I hope you enjoyed despite the deaths. I'll be around for questions and comments if there are any. Thank you for playing.
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Aaah the loyal men of the west. Truly there are no more noble or loyal allies to have in our fight against the Redwards and Blounts!!

And although I'm still furious about Wesley, that was a deeply satisfying run Padre. Dont be a stranger and disappear without saying goodbye again.
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>>3523296
>relationship, job and dad problems

god man, I couldn't commiserate with you more if I could
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>>3523296
Well now I feel like a dick. Ain't nothing to apologize for. Sorry to hear about your father. Thats some real rough shit man. I hope the rest of your family, your own HDW and job are keeping you happy and healthy. Welcome back Father!!
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>>3523296
We are going to spend a lot more time in bed with Obella to comfort her now that her brother is dead. Does that mean her second pregnancy will happen earlier than she has planned?

Can we change the pommel of our Valyrian Sword to a stallion head ?

Is Lorelei still the most adorable little thing in the history of ever ?
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>>3523296
Great thread Dad glad to have you back
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>>3523278
Chaos mostly. Whenever it came to Lantell I was about 99% certain I'd be killing Goldsong there. I wasn't exactly subtle about it being his last ride. Brynden's vice pulled him towards revenge and he went after Lantell, perhaps to the less than fortunate outcome of the others.

Watching a handful of his people die when he went after the Hightower the first time really killed his roll, it left him with few choice. Mechanically speaking, he had been left with few options as most of them had died in the round before in the battle I simmed.

And then we got to the Wesley and Lucas thing and that's a straight shot after.

I can't say I would have done it differently to be honest. As far as I'm concerned that was a well simmed battle that, historical and mechanically speaking, turned out just as expected. A lot of death.

>>3523297
Truly a force of more honorable men has never been seen in Steadhold before. Wait. Shit.

Also, serious shout outs to Joe who runs House Reynold Quest, I fucking love Mervyn as an MC. And the background plot is a joy to right.

And also Sandy who is going House Blacksand and the Essos quest, both are good reads albeit short on the latter. Just wish the son of a bitch would get back to me on crossover stuff. Haha

>>3523288
>spoiler

Nah, I knew it was coming. Hard and fast. And I had to gloss a lot harder than I wanted to so we could get into the story. I'm not trying to force an ending though. I'd rather leave the quest dead than do that.
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>>3523315
Red Pill me on this House Reynold Quest guy
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>>3523315
>>3523308
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>>3523315
Are you going to be running again soon? Also are secondary characters able to gain xps?
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>>3523315
It's not as if Dresden Drox, leal and loyal servant of the crown that he is, has been in Steadhold before...

I knew I'd seen you in there a few times. We'll have to hash out Harrenhal when it gets closer, and we can figure out Cardyns relation to Titus as well!! Really though, great thread Dad. This feels so complete and it's not even over yet. Great to have you back!!
>mfw my 15 saved Goldsong. God DAMN I wouldn't be able to forgive you if he'd died
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>>3523308
Maybe we'll see. I haven't quite decided how she's going to deal with Quellons death as of yet. But she definitely took some chances there ahead of her scheduled spy mission.

I wouldn't call it yours yet. Godscrown is still the property of House Langward. Dontos will talk to you about it next thread.

Absolutely. A pure creature of joy and happiness in this awful world of death.

>>3523319
He's bretty alright don't afraid of anything. Except caves, fuck caves.

On a more serious note, in my opinion Joe does a great job with story telling and his fight scenes blow mine out of the water from a purely technical standpoint. Mervyn being a beatstick and not to great at the game is played incredibly well and he isn't given some weird meta knowledge beyond the intelligence of the character itself. The side characters, such as Allysa and the squire are both played well and with emotion rather than as robots. Tyrus smashing a pot over the Swyfts head had me rolling and wanting more of the angry little shit. He plays the setting well and was about two inches away from killing Merv. So I think its a pretty good quest.

>>3523331
Yes, relatively. I will say I'm not going to be able to run next week. As I'll be out of town on a business trip that didn't get scheduled until yesterday, thus my days being all weird this week. However the great plan is to run again on the 5th of June, 2PM EST. And that is when we'll get into some happy fun war time with some bandits and a snotty Jaime.

>>3523336
It truly was the roll of the thread in terms of saving someone(horse). Oh the anger that would have flowed if I had.
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>>3523345
goldsong gets to retire to sweet sweet dothraki pussy now.

Him and his grumpy black friend get to live out their lives as grumpy old dudes
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>>3523353
Goldsong intro chapter next thread?
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>>3523265

Thanks for running, Father!
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Oh and some food for thought for next thread. Seeing as we'll be doing all of these.

Brynden has 48 EXP to spend. Having gained 8 from the Trial by Seven. 30 is enough for an ability, while 10 is enough for a specialty. 50 will get you a destiny point, which can be spent on numerous things, like saving your ass or a new Benefit.

We might also talk about Brynden getting a new drawback that suits his personality having gone forward 50 threads. That too would give you a Destiny Point, but of course with a Drawback.

Brynden also gained 1 Glory from the Trial by Seven, that can be spent on an resource (Defense, Influence, etc.) at a 1:1 ratio.

We'll also be doing House Fortunes for the first time in fucking forever. Benjin will be there to remind you guys of the lot of it. Mostly our food shortage and lack of work for all of the refugees. So after the roll we'll have to see where our priorities lie in building and purchasing wealth holdings or build up or military with defense and power holdings.

I will also be introducing the new Food and Trade system that I used in Grallner and refined somewhat for use here. There is a document here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zAcWLAiRBnJFyFkcoNrL3xaDKu6uIlsqZmp1_KOLwUo/edit?usp=sharing

That details our current situation with food, various trades, and etc. Some of our raw inventory there can be traded for temporary bonuses to specify Resources (ex. 5 Extraordinary Leathers = +1 Wealth roll) or converted to military upgrades (ex. 40 Superior Coursers would give a unit of cavalry superior mounts and grant them a +3B to melee attacks.) So we can start being a bit more creative with our backstock and reach out more to get better items and production with our various tradesmen.

I think that's all the major mechanical stuff. We'll also be planning a 3 front war with Jaime Lannister, so that'll be fun. And talking to Dontos about Godscrown and what to do with it. As well as seeing Victus and everyone having a good cry.
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>>3523296
First, sorry for your loss and I’m glad you’re back, hopefully in more ways than one. I appreciate the way you handled the fight. Flowers and sunshine and happy endings don’t do the setting justice. Deaths should’ve been expected, especially with difficult choices like the one we had to make.
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I haven't seen a thread fill up so quickly on qst in awhile. Insane. Loved the thread dad, the trial was a gut punch but it's what I expected it to be. Yall spoiled motherfuckers tripping.
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>>3523410
Boy oh boy if we are heading to war again would I recommend a destiny point.

As for drawbacks... heres a quick list of suggestions...

>Haunted - "The memories of the past torment you"

>Ignoble - "You have a reputation for treacherous and dishonorable tactics"

>Nemesis - "You have a dire enemy" (The Langward boy?)

I think all of those would make sense, but obviously it'll have to be discussed next thread, which I have to say I cant wait for!!
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>>3523296

Wow. Just wow. My heart is broken, and yet I'm so happy to know Brynden is getting the justice he deserves. 11/10 Wardad. 11/10. Glad to hear your doing better!!

How exactly are we going to figure out our reparations and what we get out of this trial? If it's presented before the crown, are we going to have Saul available to us for the legal proceedings?
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>>3523410
So besides being a persona non grata with the Hayford and them maybe terminating the trade, what's the fallout of losing 3 men?

Also if we had not drafted Oberyn in would it have been 2 primaries to our one?
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A little late for the thread but I had this since the last time you we had a thread. The Crownlands map with sigils for those houses I could definitive identify their territories.
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Do Valerian Steel Swords have special rules? If so what are they?

Although the sword is quite useful in Bryden's hands it's just not his weapon of choice, though it would be absolutely fantastic to see in the hands of our uncle. The one with the fighting skills on the same level of both the Kingslayer and Barrastin the Bold, both of which, do not have magical swords.
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>>3523643
Other houses (e.g. The Daynes and Corbrays) pass down their special swords to the worthy members of their house. Doesn't have to be the current lord necessarily.
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>>3523643
Valyrian steel swords are razor sharp and never break or tarnish, but they're not magic. A better fighter will always win out
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>>3523643
Crunch wise, they add +1 to hit like a castle forged sword does, and they also do 1 extra damage for their weapon type
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>>3523678
>but they're not magic

If we're talking D&D magic they are effectively +1 weapons
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I'm honestly surprised at peoples reaction to a trial of seven, these events are known to be lethal and bloddy affairs with very few survivors their is a reason their have only really been a few throughout Westerosi history, the fact this one had 4 survivors is nothing short of a miracle.

I can only hope people will reconsider such a thing with this experince under our collective belt.
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>>3523690
Right, I'd probably say Dawn is a +2 or +3 by sheer dint of being legendary.
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>>3523704
Dawn is a whole other kind of special that depending on your level of tinfoil ranges from something like 3--5+ magic sword to being lightbringer itself.
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>>3523702
When was the last time a few of our comrades died? I still need to read the backlog.
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>>3523722
Honestly? No one major has died that I can remember. This is easily the largest named character death count I can remember. Some real low tier guys have died before but no one to this magnitude.
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>>3523722
The ones that went to pick up the brother but we didn't even have them for that long

Our cousin Samuel but he wasn't really a comrade
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>>3523643
I know it would be kind of a waste but I kind of want a spear

Can we make a bow with Valyrian steel is that a thing?
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Ok so we lost the Hayfords and possibly the connector deal to Cracklaw point. That'll hurt. a lot. we'll need to patch that up once we deal with the army on our borders.

We also lost Obella's brother who commanded our dornish cavalry. That'll hurt a lot too. That said the guys in this trial tried killing his elder brother in a joust, so he was kinda honor bound to fight. No real loss besides maybe unit debuff for lost commander. Might help obella get closer with her brother too.

Our Celitgar knight hurts in that we lost a knight, but we were fucked with the rest of his family since we stormed off the boat.

the chelsted lad might cause issues with alexis Chelsted, but hopefully not.
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>>3523817
It would have been disrespectful to the other guys but I kind of wish we just would have filled our slots with Joe schmoes
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>>3523822
we'd have died then.

tertiary characters job to secondaries, and they had 2 pc level dudes too.


but this is even worse than the shit near dayne's impostor pulled on us in terms of damage to our personages.
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Also looking back, Lucas jobbed hard, despite him winning the melee in Steadhold. He'd have died unless we saved him, and he's supposedly a solid knight, better than Wesley.
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>>3523824
I don't remember their names I'm kind of surprised we didn't use the two people that went with Benjin I think they might be secondary characters but obviously Pops would need to confirm that
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>>3523828
well we need oberyn here, because damn this was a mess and he likely saved our asses.
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>>3523832
100% agree to that
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Y'all need to come off this whiny shit. The fuck did you expect, everyone to live? Father rolled for the fights fucking shit not everyone is going to win every battle.
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>>3523828
Sallo Rhod and Asher
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>>3523827
I don't want to sound whiney or spout conjecture, but his dice really fucked him or Pops made him a secondary in stats for this.
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You guys know you can see Lucas' stats in the master sheet right? He's always been a secondary character, even during the melee. And judging from the damage write ups he had already taken injuries during that fight and gave Langly some too. Your bitching about nothing.
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>>3523845
fair enough mate, it's all good
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>>3523811
Both kind of don’t make use of valyrian steel’s strengths. Which are sharpness, durability, and it’s lightweight.
A spear is mostly wood. Making a Valyrian steel spear head could be effective with its sharpness but it’s not much better than regular spears in regards of weight. And putting your valuable metal at the end of a stick that you could lose and snap off is a little risky. A dagger would be a better way to go if you only have alittle of the material. And a Valyrian steel bow wouldn’t do much. If it does have the flexibility to be pulled into a curve the draw weight would be to much to be practical. And a bow wouldn’t make use of the material’s great durability and sharpness. Dragonbone would be the “Valyrian Steel” of bows better to make a bow from that.
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>>3523863
I get your point I guess we give it a Dontos since we are getting the bow

What kind of exotic weapons are in Westeros/Got? Glaives Bisento
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>>3523869
Not many, it's pretty standard European. Outside of legendary swords I'd say the most exotic weapons are like Dothraki Arakhs or anything else from Essos.
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We will be forced to return the sword, you can bet the queen will see to that.

Unless we do something like offer it to sir jamie, which would be hillariously bad.

Really we need to put on a show of dropping the damn thing in the river, so any surviving members of that house can very well go fish for it themselves.
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Amazing thread Father. Rereading most of the quest currently but it really hurts reading about Wesley now i know what's going to happen to him. It's really impressive how much you made me care about your characters. Don't listen to the haters.
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>>3523906
I think returning the sword should probably be a part of our post war reparations and concessions. We might be able to get more out of them in return for a priceless family heirloom. Whenevr we petition the crown make it out to be like some generous honorable thing to save face. But we know the deal.
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Or when we take their lands we can hand deliver it to them blade first.
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>>3523906
>>3524161
I doubt it honestly, at the end of the day they lost a legendary trial by combat, they don't have any clout anywhere.
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>>3523906
>>3524161
Just don’t talk about it. Take a page out of Tywin’s book and just take the sword, don’t answer any questions about the sword. Then have it reforged by Tobho Mott
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>>3524279
I am sure there is someone in Qohor who can reforge Valyrian Steel.
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>>3524282
bunch, but Qohor is very far away
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>>3524282
Why. Why would you want to go to Qohor. When we have a Qohorik master armorer and blacksmith right next door in Kingslanding? Tobho Mott.
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>>3524293
he's not there, I'm pretty sure Tywin imported him.
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>>3524296
Read the books man. That's who Gendry was apprenticed too
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>>3524296
I’m pretty sure he didn’t because Gendry was working at his smithy for long enough to get pretty good at it. Before Eddard died.
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>>3524284
>>3524293
I was more refering to Sandy's Free City Quest. With Aego Eimos having a Valyrian Forgemaster
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>>3524299
Damn rights anon. You don't get a shop at the top of the hill on the Street of Steel by just showing up from Qohor one day. By 300AC he has a well established shop, with forges and numerous apprentices.
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>>3524302
Oh I see. Well Tobho has the largest most extravagant house on the Street of Steel. He’s made armor for Lora Tyrell and King Robert and more. He’s the greatest armorer in the Seven Kingdom’s if you take his word for it. So you’d have to pay pretty well to have someone to make good valyrian steel items work for you 24/7. I mean it’s not like you need to armor every single footsoldier and arrow fodder in the finest plate money can buy. Hell even the knights can buy their own armor. Really you don’t even need to bring a master armor to your home. Just visit him when you have a job. A regular one costs less and does the same day to day jobs.
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>>3524308
I think he was meaning there is potential for a cross over thread
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>>3524315
Oh ok ok so we go to their house and use their blacksmith free of charge I getcha.
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>>3524297
I have read the books, I just forgot that he was his apprentice. My bad
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Almost caught up! Really glad to see you back, Dad.
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>>3524324
Fair play. Dont mean to come across as a dick, but showfags... good God I hate showfags. Apologies once again!!
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>>3524326
Man the only thing that kept me going from season 5 onwards with the show was distilled hatred. They ruined the dorne plot, my favorite from the books and got rid of Arianne for no reason.
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>>3524328
Amen. Hatred and spite.
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I'll refer to the image in >>3521658 on this point.

Regarding Godscrown:

There are two ways to go about keeping the sword. Dontos is going to go over these in more detail and offer in game perspective. First, just keep the thing. This will reflect incredibly poorly upon Brynden and the House as a whole, any reputation he's built as being a good Westerosi Lord will go right out the window as it would be considered a very sellsword-y thing to do, this will be reflected in both allies and future dealings. The Reach, the Tyrells mainly, would immediately no longer wish to do business with you. Trade would be harder to come by. People would be less inclined to barter with you. There will people willing to go to war over it, to kill you, to attempt to steal it back, constantly. And, etc. Dontos would call it political suicide. You literally would be stealing a House's history, their lineage, their very identity for spite.

Second is to take it as "reparations" aka the legal way. Referring to the quoted image the check for that would be a DC24 Persuasion(Bargain) test, you won't be getting bonuses to this, in fact likely negatives depending upon how you frame the demand, as even the King and the Hand know there's a limit. Brynden's current dice pool is 4D, he'd have to roll perfectly and that's even before negatives where it might maken it impossible. It will be seen as in incredibly poor taste especially with the rest of the demands, dishonorable, and just plain spiteful. This will effect your reputation less negatively but you'd constantly have to explain how you legally took the sword and more than a few Lords will not take it well regardless.

I will remind, Tywin Lannister attempted to buy swords from deeply impoverished Houses. Offering the Lannister treasury for one and they denied him. Several people over the years have attempted to find ancestral swords, likely to their doom. Godscrown means the world to the Langwards, what Brynden did already with it can be considered in poor taste and Dontos will tell you that, furiously. There are plenty of ways to save face with it and come out looking like the good guy in this. And honorable to boot. But regardless of Linden's actions when history is written and stories are told they'll fixate on the man Brynden was.
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>>3524337
Damnit all, I want to be a petty asshole who kills people poetically and gets to keep all his loot and fuck all the bitches with no consequences.

DAMN YOU DAD
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>>3524337
Alright, I suppose we'll go for the land and maybe some money, then.
Maybe give back the sword at the ceremony where the new Langward lord swears fealty to Bobby, stating that there is no reason for mistrust between our houses as we have both sworn to obey the King's Peace? It's a public show of reasonableness.
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>>3524348
Then we rob him for all the gold and land we can and takes some of his family members as Wards.
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>>3524348
Then if he starts shit we'll kill the entire house and take the sword back.
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>>3524337
Based. Valyrian steel is not meant to be easy to come by.
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>>3524349
Oh yeah, we'll obviously still get reparations afterwards, but if we publicly give the sword back in front of all the eyes of the realm, we should at least negate the damage done by our rash actions.

>>3524359
The new Langward will be essentially crippled after we take his land. If he starts shit he's really, really stupid and we could indeed try to take the sword as reparations if he did.
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>>3524337
I wanna try for the sword in the legal way.
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We don't need the fucking sword, we're not Aegon the fucking Conquerer with a fetish for swords. We'll give it back as part of the ransom/reparations process and take Langward's clay and titles
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>>3524379
Yeah that seems like the way to go
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>>3524379
>>3524386
Cravens, the both of youse. The both of youse!
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>>3524379
Then we fuck his sister and/or mother
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>>3524392
really now, we've had this conversation before. Pops said that isn't a part of Brynden anymore
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>>3524412
I know i know. Would still had liked to see the Langward utterly crushed in material as well in spirit.
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>>3524421
Me too bud, me too
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Any hope we could get Goldsong to punt Jamie in the head?
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>>3524464
Goldsong is retired now. Nothing but the finest oats, crunchy apples, sugar cubes and sweet dothraki pussy. Neigh neigh Motherfucker. End of discussion.
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>>3524516
Theres the screen cap I was referencing. But seriously though, Goldsong is retired now right dad?
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>>3524325
>mfw after reading this thread.
Still, good to have you back Dad. Even if you did make it extremely difficult for me to keep my cool in the office.
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>>3524544
He better goddamn be, he’s the best horse in the 7 kingdoms
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We need a horse from every kingdom so Goldsong can make the eight. Thinking about it has Brynden made the eight?
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>>3524644
Their is great arguement over if Brynden has actually done the Essos version of Doing the Eight.
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>>3524644
Fairly sure Father said Lysa (was that Victus' mother's name?) was our first and we fled to Essos with her. We might have made the Essosi Eight though.
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>>3524362
Precisely.

>>3524346
And what fun would that be?

>>3524392
Sister is... 10 I think. Mum is dead.

>>3524516
Feel like this needs an update after all the shit Goldsong has been through. Hah

>>3524544
Yes he is. Officially retired, he's pretty old in horse terms, probably only a few years left. So being put out to stud and getting the finest oats is what Brynden intends to do.

Gawen is going to have a scene helping Brynden pick out a new horse that'll have some related perks and be considered an Extraordinary Courser.

>>3524644
He has not. Though he did make the Essosi equivalent
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>>3524661
>He has not. Though he did make the Essosi equivalent

But the one. I think it was either Novos or Qohor was done outside the city walls so it doesnt count!
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>>3524661

Even Lorath and Qohor?
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>>3524661
pls tell me >>3524348 was a good idea I need your validation daddy
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>>3524667
>>3524661
Even Ibben?
Haha though realistically you’d just have to go to a good brothel and you can find a girl from just about anywhere in one place.
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>>3524661
Good. He deserves it. Truly the best horse to ever have existed.
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>>3524702
We have currently set aside his son as a replacement. But it is not big enough. So we need a stand-in intill it is.
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>>3524706
Daughter I think, iirc we had a strong liking for a daughter of goldsong's
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>>3524337
frankly Brynden is an archer first, swordsman second. He has little reason to keep the sword other than stupid petty spite.

I would infinitely prefer to reinstate Ser Langly as rightful heir of the Tear but in a subordinate position to us. Give him the sword.

losing Wesley has cost us allies and trade deals. lets not make it worse over a chunk of (admittedly nice) metal.

Revenge may be Brynden's vice, but good men are already dead because of it. know when to stop and be reasonable.
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>>3524865
>Hang the scum. Blood feud now!

I got'cha
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>>3524865
I feel like we can do that, personally I wouldn't mind indulging in a little more vengeance but we did sorta already by killing langward.
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That hightower asshat killed 4 of our men. I know he was pissed Mason fucked his sister but damn.
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>>3524865
I’m more in favor of taking The Tear and giving it to Lucas. There is no reason to be merciful after everything that’s happened.

The sword... I would rather use it as a political tool. I’m not even against dangling its easier than normal acquisition in front of the Lannisters. Perhaps by coercing the family to sell it to the Lannisters for a (substantial) cut of the profits. Maybe that will make them chill the fuck out with us too.
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Go for the land and titles. Get the sword to the family heir vis-a-vis swearing loyalty to the king. Holding onto it is a stupid decision while we can just subordinate the house potentially.
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I'm going to throw out a wildly unpopular opinion here but bear with me. Bryndens goal is justice, but hes vengeful. So let's not forget who the true person we seek revenge against. Langward already payed with his life. In of the opinion we should take a ward, and perhaps even only the youngest daughter, Cersei, along with either the title, or lands. (Personally I think the title is enough to satisfy Bryndens ego). We need to look lordly righy now, and Brynden is smart enough to know that we should bide our time just a midge longer when we can take literally EVERYTHING from Royce. His lands, his daughters(our niecee), his hall and tower. Everything.

The Langwards and Blounts will have to pay somehow, but they are just playing the game. Linden already died, and Boros was humiliated. Play the Lord gentlemen. Not the sellsword.
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>>3524977

What exactly does the Langward's title entail? I'm really interested in the Lord Marshall title but I have a suspicion that it's a trap option that will do nothing beneficial.

I'd say take Langward's clay>title>daughter in that order of priority, and ransom the sword back for them.
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>>3524980
Lets demand a large sum of money, land and wards. Then arrange a marriage between that 10 year old noble girl and Victus.

We will pretty much have the Langwards by the balls for an entire generation or two.
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>>3524977
my end game would either be taking the Langley's as a banner house, or getting them out from under the langwards

Mostly because the langleys are going to be at odds with their former liege entirely due to this.

Maybe some lands or some other form of reparations (farm land, farmland!)

and maybe award to neuter their ability to help Royce until we put him down.

I'd happily return the sword once the new lord swears king peace, and explain that because langward was proven by the eyes of the seven to be a snake, using assassin and the like we could not trust his surrender, even as one of his compatriots slew our brother in law despite his.
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>>3524980
Oh I'm almost positive it has no actual benefit in game wise. It's a matter of prestige. But it fits with Bryndens nature and ego. I'm just saying we shouldnt get to greedy here. Weve done alot of legwork to improve our reputation amongst the realm and leave our sellsword persona behind. So we should take a ward to ensure the Langwards are out of the fight, and one other reparation.

When it comes to Redward, taking absolutely everything makes sense in character. But the Blounts and Langwards only need to be knocked down a peg.
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>>3524977
>>3524985
You know what we could do if it's available, instead of money, we could just take a surplus of food to feed our slightly starving peasants.
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>>3524985
Oh, I like the Victus idea. Nice. Wouldn’t that mean he gets the sword?
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>>3524987

Brynden has done fucking nothing but fight that stupid sellsword playing at lord catchphrase for 80% of the quest and by the time of the Tourney in Highgarden it was basically a joke but NPCs constantly repeat it anyway. Wasting resources fighting it is pointless. I think we should meet Jaime and deal with the situation on our borders first and then play it by ear after arriving at home. I think our ultimate decision will rest a lot on how that goes down. Maybe we'll end up just giving the sword to Jaime.

>>3524986
Dad would never ever allow us to even consider that. It's a non-starter in the best of circumstances. Our options are clay, titles, or ward.

>>3524985
Victus is unironically too good for for Langward's whore spawn.

>>3525015
Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts.
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>>3525029
I think mechanically it's a larger conversion of money into food, which is why I mentioned it.
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>>3525032
We don't need it my dude. We'll have finished buying the port+market long before we run out of food. Especially if we take Langward's clay and use it for food production.
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>>3525029
Victus is a bastard. We can effectively make him the head of a house and the wielder of the Valyrian steel sword. He is also probably one of the few people who is genuinely nice enough to make it hard for this girl to hate him. The house’s reputation is effectively shit now anyway so marrying a bastard isn’t exactly a stretch. What better match can you imagine for him?
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>>3525043

First off marrying victus to Cersei wouldn't make him head of anything, nor would it make him the owner of that stupid sword. Second of all yes our son is the best and on track to become a True Knight. Marrying him off to Linden Langward's devilspawn would be a horrible thing to do to him, he wants to go to Dorne after all because it reminds him of Essos, not get married to some girl we haven't even seen yet.
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>>3525043
House Langwards reputation isnt so shit as to marry their daughter to a bastard, and what makes you guys think we can start playing matchmaker? Even if we did marry Cersei to Victus which is super unlikely, hes still behind both of Lindens sons in the line of succesion. I dont think that's going to be an option for us
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>>3525067
Actually it would. See Lancel and Gatehouse Ami. He married her and being her and became her lord and the head of the House Darry.
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>>3525073
That's because there was no legitimate heir to Castle Darry. Langward had 2 sons and both of them come before Cersei and whoever she married.
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>>3525067
>>3525068
And we are just going to let them inherit? They surely won’t hold a grudge. Don’t we hold almost all of the cards here? The sons fuck off to The Wall and the daughter marries Victus. This ensures peace and stability without totally destroying the house. I can’t even see the Hand having a problem with it.
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>>3525085
Yeah I'd imagine so. Because that's how the system works. By your own logic, we should never have even been called back from Essos to rule Steadhold. It would have been Royce Redwards, or any other Lord in the crownlands who chose Robert over Aerys. There are laws about inheritance and all that, and the war with the Langwards doesnt warrant extermination.
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>>3525085
Literally will never happen and I don't see why you would think that's possible.
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>>3525088
The oldest is 14. The second son is... I’m guessing 12. It could be argued that they knew enough about their father’s plotting to share some of the blame. It would be reaching except for the fact that we have the leverage here. This house is essentially responsible for the deaths of several of our friends and family members. They are the reason this wasn’t settled with a simple guilty plea or trial by combat. Fuck them. Banishing two teenagers and forming an alliance by marriage borders on mercy. I’m not suggesting extermination, just consolidation.
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>>3525097
And we look like an absolute grasping asshole. I'm telling you right now that there is absolute no way this will fly. It is an absolute pipe dream.

The crown will never agree to it. It sets a very bad precedent. The difficulty check to get Lucos(the heir) as a ward was 21. How impossibly hard do you think it's going to be to get him banished?
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For reparations I'd personally like some land and wealth. Take any plains that are bordering our forest, any popcenters they have there and like 15 or so wealth and ten of which we give to our Uncle who lost both sons to Brynden.
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>>3525103
Thanks, I missed the DCs. In that case, it does seem like too much of a reach to pull it off, assuming the DC would be worse for sidelining both of the boys.

And the Langleys then? I don’t trust Lyonel at all. Any word on how old the sister is?
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>>3525077
>had 2 sons
Hunting accidents can happen.
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>>3525107
I lile this idea
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>>3525107
He won't take it, I'll bet you 20$ sleepy. Sometimes you can't apologize, and stuff isn't going to make it up.
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>>3524663
I think you're right, god I've forgotten so much. It was a hotly contested point amongst the Sons iirc. All those little details. Im still trying to remember everyone's voice.

>>3524671
That's a possibility, yeah. Definitely something we can talk about after the bandits are dealt with.

>>3524706
>>3524840
Daughter was the one getting scenes yeah. Yeah we'll get a little in between horse, someone that Gawen is having trouble breaking.

>>3524902
3 I believe. Ambrose, Lucerys, and Wesley. Leo Langly has Raymun and beating up on Lucas pretty bad. Hilariously Linden didn't kill anyone. He was pretty useless, preferring to hang behind until Brynden charged him.

>>3524903
>I’m more in favor of taking The Tear and giving it to Lucas
Viable option.

>Perhaps by coercing the family to sell it to the Lannisters for a (substantial) cut of the profits
They wouldnt. Lucos, the eldest son, will hold onto the sword for dear life if he gets it back. Not going to have much left.

>>3524980
Well besides feeding Brynden's ego everytime it's announced it'll also come with 5 Influence and a +1 to Influence rolls in the future. Crunch speaking every thing you guys can demand will have a benefit for your house. Some may cost some resources to get under control but otherwise yeah. There will be benefits to it.

>>3524985
That is one hell of a hail mary. You thought convincing them to give you godscrown would be difficult. Not to mention, y'all should be able to see the parellels between forcing that and what happened with Isis being force wed to Royce for much the same reason. 1 guess who would be devastated to see brynden becoming so vindictive even if, from our side, we'd feel like it's not the same. Optics is everything. And that might result in others feeling Brynden is just using his family as pawns. Which is wildly against his motivations.
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>>3524986
Lyonel has made it clear his intent would be to take Langward and consolidate the family after reasserting his claim as the Knight of the Tear. He is ambitious as fuck and entirely willing to do whatever it takes. Have to be a special kind of ruthless to sell your family down the river like he did. Whether or not you think you can control him as a bannerman is up for debate. But regardless of how many people are ahead of him he's going to be making his plays with or without your leave. All depends upon how Brynden wants to play that game. If you wanted to do that you'd have to pay the price for another bannerhouse though and then constantly deal with Lyonel as well. It's within the realm of possibilities but it's mutch harder than just letting him figure his own life out and washing your hands of it or hell, even installing your own man (which would still cost power for a bannerhouse).

Honestly Brynden killing Linden and then making plays for his clays and titles and wards is throwing the whole western Crownlands into chaos. A lot of players will be coming out of the woodwork nipping at what they can. Things that Brynden might not claim another will try for. A lot of possibilities are open but god damn it if some arent harder than others and possibly more trouble than they're worth. Specifically that isn't something he could demand, but rather would have to do by force after the fact.

>>3525015
A viable option. Raiding their pantry so to speak for various trade goods, foodstuffs, etc could definitely be arranged, depends upon what Brynden wants. That'd likely translate to wealth gained as well.


>>3525029
What can I say. People like a good catchphrase. Reputation spreads, sure he's regarded as a good Lord but not everyone sees that. Just know him for the stories.


>>3525043
Honestly this post is incorrect almost the entire way through. Victus would not be HoH, he would not get the sword, Cersei would never like him, the Langwards name is in the gutter but they're not at forced marriage to survival levels of down and out, they could definitely do better, and likely would just to try to recover. Cersei is not going to have great marriage prospects but someone would pay a brides price for her and the Langwards would take it.

And yeah, again two your people would be really upset if you did that.

And Brynden just isnt going to have this clout unless he is willing to give up a lot more in return.

>>3525067
Conversely this post is mostly correct.

>>3525085
The sons are 14 and 12, not men made yet. And it would come off as atrociously vindictive of Brynden to pin the crimes of the father on them just to take over the house with his bastard son. Again, optics.
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You have cards. Not that many though, and the children arent part of the deck in such a way that Arryn would let you get away with that.

>>3525107
Winston is incredibly unlikely to accept if he knows its from Brynden. Play it differently.

>>3525125
Alright so there are a couple of people to be aware of.

Lucos (14), is the current heir/Lord of Langward. He is currently in Kings Landing as a royal cup bearer. Hes old enough. He knows enough. He will hate you. Wants Godscrown back something fierce.
Landon(12) is the second-born son. Serves as his uncle's squire (Lestor).
Cersei (9), only daughter. With her mother (Beautrice Blount) with the Blounts right now.
Beautrice Blount(33) current lady of Langward. I misspoke earlier shes still alive. Hiding with her family currently. If Lucos is installed as Lord of a langward she would very likely come back to help him rule. You can guess how that will go.

Lestor Langward(31), captain of the Langward Knights. Rumored to be unhinged after a brush with death during Roberts rebellion. The one you suspect is leading the bandit armies. An incredibly dangerous warrior and capable commander. He won't forget what you did.
Lysana Langly(17), Lestors wife and first cousin once removed. Leo Langly's only daughter. Technically the heiress of the tear, thus giving Lestor a claim as well. Very frail and has been bedridden for months during her pregnancy. Lyonel, her brother, is sure she and the baby will die and is unsure if she is even alive at this point.

Leo Langly(54), current Knight of the Tear. In your custody. Can be dealt with in numerous ways. The black, exile, or execution are all viable options. Also very mutilated. Lucos/Landon/Cersei's great uncle, Linden/Lestor's uncle.
Lyonel Langly(21), disinherited Knight of the Tear. A willing prisoner in your possession but will soon be asking for his freedom once you return home. You could probably call him a sociopath, doesnt care about his family in anyway, just wants power and is ruthlessly ambitious. He hard sold Linden down the river and knew what to say to get him frothing mad. Not one of your people trust him, and Brynden is on the fence as well. Several ways to deal with him as well.

The Bastard of Langward(?), a banished bastard rumored to live in exile in Essos. Linden hated him. No one knows anything of him or where he might be now.

So as you can see, a lot of people to deal with. How you play this will effect the future of the Langward/Langlys, and how they deal with you in the future. They're your direct neighbor so it is almost impossible to not deal with them. Though not dealing with them is an option
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>>3525475
>The Bastard of Langward(?), a banished bastard rumored to live in exile in Essos.
Sounds like our kind of guy.
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>>3525471
>>3525473
>>3525475
All I'm seeing is that our position, as usual, is nowhere as strong as we assumed it was. Damnit all I missed this quest
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>>3525475
Hmm

Lestor has gotta die, and if he attacks we need to make sure he does.

The kid (Landon) we should try to spare, if at all possible. Maybe make him a ward. If he's with his uncle this becomes exponentially easier.

If we have testimony the wife knew about this, she should get dinged too. If we can swing that at all, we do NOT need her whispering any more poison or good advice in her son's ear.

Leo if we have anything on him needs to be removed. The black or execution most likely.

Lyonel needs to be cut lose, and we should wash our hands of him. he's a cold son of a bitch and will constantly try to get out from under us. Best let him have free reign and have to deal with everyone else trying to knick shit from him than keep him close.

If we can swing getting cersei as a ward too we should, so Lucos is even more isolated and unwilling to act.


I assume that Lyonel will bump off lucos in short order if at all possible. He's already betrayed family for power once.
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>>3525490
You know how I like to roll, checks and balances are very important in making a challenging quest.

You guys have the world when it comes to taking lands, wealth, and titles, with Saul's help, a sound investment he was, of course.

Past that? Politics. The King and Hand. Others trying to feed from your trough. Wards being hilariously difficult to take unless you're Ned Stark and Bobby B is too busy plowing some Ironborn girl to care what you do with the squid boy.

It's important to remember that things are difficult and need to be played carefully.
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>>3525514
Also Dad will Dargood contest the charges we laid at them by proxy or not? Cause I really want to try and not fuck them over if possible.
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Why would you even want a valyrian steel sword, when you could have a dragonbone bow?
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>>3525475
Honestly, I first suggested marrying Victus to the daughter because I mixed up the two L houses for surviving members and didn’t account for there being two remaining sons to contend with. Then I just ran with it to see if it would still be feasible. Obviously it won’t be even if the sons could be removed. Too much animosity especially with the mother’s influence. I didn’t think too much about the optics of it just because it feels a lot less... rapey? There is a big gap between a betrothal between two children who could get to know each other over a few years and what was done to our sister. Given Brynden’s image of Victus, it didn’t feel like it would end up being out of character if played that way. Some other characters may have a different perspective, which I didn’t account for. Back to plotting then...

A cup bearer in Kings Landing... that’s inconvenient. I feel like this may require dealing with a neutral third party, which will be costly. Or we may just have to live with him inheriting. That may be better than the price to remove him. The only other option would be to use the potential capture of Landen on the field as further leverage to hopefully reduce a roll to remove Lucos. Sidelining two vengeful sons and leaving the mother and inheriting daughter to deal with the chaotic aftermath may still be the best outcome here.

I’m still in favor of acquiring The Tear for Lucas. Lyonel can’t be trusted and it feels fitting that the Trial survivor would gain such a reward to start his family in.
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I had a super random thought looking at Mason's character sheet and heraldry, why doesn't he go into the gamecock business? He's bound to be somewhat familiar given his mother's history, and I bet you couldn't find a better place to sell than King's Landing.
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We could give the sword to the hand. It is afterall taken from a breaker of the kings peace and it gives the hand some political capitol if very small. Also means B wont have to deal with the rest of that damn family himself.

Victus is going to dorne. Its too OOC for B for force his son to stick around after that promise.
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>>3525755
>Victus is going to dorne. Its too OOC for B for force his son to stick around after that promise.

Nothing to say he cant do both.
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>>3525755
The Hand would take it, go "This isn't really yours to give me though?" and then give it back to the Langwards.
There is literally nothing worthwhile about doing anything that isn't giving it back to them in some fashion.
Also what part of giving a sword to the Hand means that we don't have to deal with the family we just threw into the dirt and are planning to stomp on even harder?
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>>3525763
Directly, as in face to face.
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>>3525765
What? There's things other than the sword that we are probably going to try and take from them. We can't do that by mail.
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>>3525766
Sure you can, once these surrounding armies are dealt with we can literally not even give them the respect of taking their shit in person if we so choose.
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Honestly can we lay off arguing about this for now? We literally don't have the information to make an informed judgment right now. After we deal with the army on our doorstep we'll have a much better idea of where the Langwards stand. We don't currently have the justification for all this shit you want to steal from the Langshits and are just going to make us lose what we have by overplaying our hand. but that situation can change drastically depending on how the situation on our borders end up. If whats-his-face ends up trying to all out invade us like a moron and we spank him silly that changes the equation a lot.
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>a single sword
Has to be done face to face.
>lands, hostages, money, resources
Just do it by mail, easy.
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Dad, could you give us an overview once more of why we can't use the evidence of Redfuck and his allies being slaving pieces of shit? I know broad strokes overview of how we get muscled out of the equation and may be caught in the blast radius, but what circumstance needs to change for us to be able to use it?
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Just want to say that i am happy with the amount of interaction going on in this thread
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>>3525825
Def a lot more unique posters than I was expecting, I'm really happy I'm not the only one that waited all this time.
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Let's keep this in mind too. Were going to be taking over Royces lands, if we take over Langwards Domain 2, were going to be stretching ourselves pretty thin in terms of our military ability. If anything, I'm actually more inclined to suggest giving the Tear to Lucas, and leaving the Langward lands intact, taking a ward and title from them.

Leo gets sent to the wall, Lyonel...well he is going to have to be dealt with. Unscrupulous ambition like that is dangerous.

Sure the Langwards will never like us, but if we keep up our military and dont act like an idiot, they wont be in a position to threaten us again. Neither will the blounts. And the rewards will cease to exist.
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>>3525937
>giving the Tear to Lucas
After which Langly will be doing everything in their power to get the Tear back, with a strong claim on it at that. Having to protect that (because Lucas sure wouldn't have a sufficient military right away) would also stretch us thin.
Of course we could "deal with" Langly, but I don't think that would give us a much better reputation.

Just take the land or the title.
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>>3525943
I have a feeling there will be a few ways to deal with the Langlys. Lestor Langward is going to be hung for banditry so his claim is out, Leo is taking the black to help Lord Commander Qorgyleand therefore irrevalen, and Lyonel...well he might have to disappear. A man willing to betray his family like that is directly opposed to Bryndens motives. I dont know how we would deal with him yet, but dad said there would be options.
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>>3525955
>I dont know how we would deal with him yet, but dad said there would be options.
Actually, I realised that he is still our prisoner, isn't he? We could pardon him after this is all wrapped up, but I don't think we need to. Not sure how well that would go over though.
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>>3525958
Lyonel Langly is unlikely to go after us for revenge considering he help us bring is relatives down. He will not make a trust worthy neighbor but he could be better that one hellbent on revenge.
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>>3525475
Hey Father, what did you use to make the Malroy family tree?
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>>3526052
He is using this.

https://www.familyecho.com/

I have been using it myself for my own families
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>>3526058
How do you make it show all of the tree? It keeps making them into separate trees.
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>>3526061
Use the "Me" as a starting point and then have it go down from there.
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>>3525521
Unfortunately House Dargood wasnt in good shape to begin with. Their last member is an old man who just dedicated everything he had to helping a supposed relative and subsequently lost it. It's very likely they go extinct with him. An unfortunate victim in this war.

>>3525573
>I’m still in favor of acquiring The Tear for Lucas
I actually hadn't anticipated this being a direction people would want to go. But it certainly is an option. If you wanted to go after the Tear rather than the lands to your north it would be much more difficult considering you'd need to do away with Lyonel, Lestor, Leo, and Lysana/her child, it also has a tower so will be considered a more valuable prize. But hell. You could. The prospect is interesting.

>>3525665
He'd need some lands to purchase the Wealth Estate holding. Id also need to figure out what Holding would be appropriate/make a new homebrew one.

If y'all are worried about stretching yourself thin there is always the possibility of giving Mason the Princewood domain.

>>3525755
As others predicted Arryn would just give it back to the Langwards. Not gaining you anything for it.

>>3525774
Its mostly about patience. Varys requested as much. Im trying to remember more than broad strokes as well. Gotta get Isis and the girls out from under him first, lest they suffer the fallout or guilt by association. Build the strongest case you possibly can against him, your case isn't 100% yet. Fuck I'm blanking on a lot of it. I'll get back to you on it, need to research my notes.

>>3526052
Yeah I use >>3526058 and a healthy bit of paint.
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Either banner the boy and sure he knows we are keeping his shit together in the ensuing crownlands chaos and bred some level of grudging loyalty to him or install Lyonel/the bastard on the Tear, additionally we surround him with people who we can count on to get him to tow the line somehow.

We'll be spread thin regarding langward gains regardless but we either take territory from this in the form of a banner or we merely gain cash money from it.

Alternatively set Lyonel up with the Golden company/other Sellswords in essos.
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>>3526074
You have no idea how happy you made me for showing me that family tree builder. But it does have some problems to show everything.
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Father would it be possible to "ransom" back the Godscrown for additional leverage in the negotiation?

I know we'll look like a complete bastard to the Langwards but I'm wondering if it's an option even if it os unpleasant
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>>3526081
I thought that was the plan all along. Using it as a bargaining chip to gain even more stuff from them.
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>>3526082
I guess its been implied rather than outright stated or at least not stated enough for my 3am brain to notice.

Considering how valuable any sword is to their house daylight robbery is the least we can get away with barring outside interference
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>>3526074
Father. I was wondering what last name Victus would take if he ever got one ?
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>>3526098
Should clearly be Bonroy
Absolute banter
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>>3526098
>>3526102
BoiRoy
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>>3526098
House Bestroy
Words: The best ride amongst us
Sigil: Goldsong in his prime
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>>3526121
House Bessieroy
Words: Thank the gods for our tits
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>>3526098

Arianne Martell _might_ be good enough for Victus
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>>3526135
He does have a crush on her. And that is even before she has started blooming.
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>>3526135
>>3526121
>>3526142

>Victus moves to Dorne
>Hopes of a childhood romance dashed when he attends the Qorgyles in Sandstone instead of Sunspear
>Grows from bestboi to bestman
>Gets knighted and landed
>Creates House Bestroy at the age of 17
>Arriane swings by
>She becomes HIS paramour
>Have numerous string, good looking and charismatic children sons to rival the sand snakes
>they are called "The best boys"
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>>3526151
Most likely they will just spend a couple of nights together and he will be left heartbroken when she moves on.
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>>3526098
Has he been legitimized? Because otherwise bastards can't change their name. Trueborn sons of bastards can though.
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>>3526196
Having him be landed is enough. He need to be legitimized to take our name though.
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>>3526196
Who is Mason Flowers of House Blackflower?

Also, implying Robert Baratheon doesnt immediately legitimize Victus the second he meets him....
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>>3526206
Mason is our bastard friend from thread 1 that pulled us out of our despair spiral in essos. We are making him our bannerman.
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I would probably go with something like Eastroy, because for victus B left westeros for the east for him and his mother.

So Victus Eastroy
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>>3526206
Our oldest bud not named Goldsong. Stopped us from going mad and selling Goldsong for money to get poisons to kill whoever offed his love Lysa the singer/hooker/bargirl.
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>>3526210
>>3526212
Lol, I was just giving an example jeopardy style. An example that shows you can be a bastard and get landed.
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>>3526198

With meta-knowledge it wouldn't work, but if we could betroth Victus to Arianne Martell it won't really matter if he ever gets a name or not; as house Martel would continue through their line.
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>>3526242
No way in hell Doran would allow that. Even if his family likes us
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>>3526249
Well, when Doran eventually dies, if Victus is around theres a good chance she will grab him as a lover.
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>>3526251
The boy is gonna get his heart broken
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>>3526252
More than likely, but he'll have fun in the meantime.
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>>3523153
Man, you are not wrong, but I still hold a candle for Princely.
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>>3526251
Doran ain't dying for a long while there anon.
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>>3525475
whatever we do Lucos cannot be allowed to rule.

We take Lucos as hostage no matter what. Then we send a letter to Lestor telling him that his house has no future unless he quits the field.

If I am reading this correctly, we could hold Leo indefinitely as a hedge against Lyonel. If he acts out of line, we miraculously pardon Leo and throw his house into utter turmoil.

Lyonel would find ways to dispose of his troublesome kin for us, but im not sure I want to have to deal with him even as a bannerman. He fucking reeks of disloyalty.

Alternatively we could "discover" the lost bastard. No doubt varys has an idea where a suitably loyal man of the correct build can be found. Of course, that means his loyalty is divided between Varys and ourselves, but i THINK Varys doesnt want to fuck us over.

As for Hayward... we are going to have to deal with the other members of the alliance more directly and let any aid from us come through them or his wife with no mention of Malroy.
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>>3526206
>>3526198
Only bastards who became kings were able to change their names because they were kings and could do whatever they wanted. (Who is Daemon Waters and Benedict Rivers) Non king bastards get to keep their bastard surnames for life and if they got married and had trueborn kids they also were born with bastard names (which the sons could change if they wanted) Who is Walder Rivers and Jon Waters. Mason should still be called Flowers and his sons can call themselves Blackflowers.
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>>3526694
Mason is taking the blackflower most of the time if a bastard gets landed then make up a name
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>>3526707
When has that happened? Sure nameless lowborns who can make up a surname for themselves because no one cares or knows their backgrounds. But highborn bastards that everyone is aware of have to keep their names because they are born into shame and deceite. People don’t like or trusts bastards because it’s believe the very Gods are against them as they are born of sins made by their parents against the Gods. Westerosi hate bastards.
It seems like fans want to be bastards because it’s the lone wolf badass outsider archetype and they’re fans of Jon Snow, but they don’t want to deal with the in universe consequences that bastards are saddled with from birth through no fault of their own. It’s unfair it’s illogical, but that’s life in a medieval society.
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>>3526738
It happened in this quest. Bryndens best human friend. He landed him and now House Blackflower is a thing. And Mason is so good of a dude, even Dontos, the religious bastard hating puritan that he is, respects him
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>>3526738
When he got landed or when he took the name blackflower?

He got landed by Obella when we were at the trial
Brynden had a inner monologue about it him taking the name multiple times
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>>3526759
I know it happened I was saying the same things back then. If Mason Flowers was the true born son of a bastard maybe it’d be ok. If Mason’s trueborn kids or the kids of his kids took the name it’d be ok. But otherwise... same goes for Victus Waters.
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>>3526761
I meant when has that happened in the A Song of Ice and Fire universe.
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Guys. We are forgetting the most important. We need to buy a doll for Lorelei
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>>3526775
We can get her a tiny raenys in lys or something. Fancy dolls seem like something the Lyseni would make.
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>>3526769

There was the time that a bastard born to Houses Blackwood and Bracken took the House name 'Justman' when they became the King of the trident...
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>>3526081
That's basically what's going down, assuming you give it back. If that's the route you're taking it would be wise to take measures so you still come out looking like the good guy, rather than a psycho who murdered a Lord with his own sword, proceeded to demand their lands, titles, and hostages, all in exchange for said sword.

Phrasing here is important. Saul Cromwell will be happy to explain such to Brynden and how to "best" go about returning the sword while still gaining maximum gain. If that's the route we want to take.

>>3526098
Victus will always be a Waters. Unless he is legitimized and he becomes a Malroy, but you might anger more than a few people if you do that.

Victus, if he were to ever found a House would likely go with Goldwaters. His legitimate children would be known as such. Though that's just the default, since it's lore friendly more or less. If we end up landing him, or he becomes landed on his own right, than I'm sure we can talk names if there are opposing votes.

>>3526142
Other way around. She had a crush on him. Victus is naive and innocent yet still in matters of women. He was just being nice to the princess.

>>3526615
>We take Lucos as hostage no matter what. Then we send a letter to Lestor telling him that his house has no future unless he quits the field.
Big demand there. Going right in on a royal cup-bearer that just became the rightful Lord of his House.

>If I am reading this correctly, we could hold Leo indefinitely as a hedge against Lyonel

The terms of the yield and surrender may only go so far. Holding him indefinitely may result poorly and Dontos would call it dishonorable. Obella would play that game though. Other Lords might not. He is certainly guilty by association at this point but perhaps not to the point where Brynden could get away with holding a Head of House indefinitely as a no more than a bargaining chip.

I'm glad the topic is getting discussed. It is a very prickly and dangerous topic to navigate. Luckily you have a good selection of advisers to get help from.

>>3526707
He is not actually. I think I worded that strangely in previous mentions. Mason's plan was to name his House Blackflower and give his children a legitimate name at birth, while his own would remain Flowers. I haven't changed that in any of the mentions of him in any of the documents. To all he is still a bastard. But his children will be true.

>>3526759
Dontos keeps his misgivings of Mason to himself. Mostly because of Mason's proven track record and pretty much being Brynden's right hand man. He respects Mason, but still does find his parentage of mortal sin.

>>3526775
She's barely a few months old. Haha I don't think she'd care one way or another for a doll. But Brynden can definitely start building a toybox for her and get her other idle gifts because he shall spoil her rotten. Start working on a collective list and I'll pepper them in when I'm writing specific scenes.
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Just want to say. The turn out for this thread is amazing. I appreciate you all. The amount of replies, planning, and hell debate after just one return thread that was 90% rolling is incredible and it really keeps me wanting to write more. Thank you.

Oh and also. I'm surprised no one is talking about House Fortunes/potentially hammering out more trade with our neighbors. There is a lot to be talking about there. On what we should prioritize building, who we might want to send ravens out to to gain trade (Chelsteds are a good option), the potential fallout from Wesley's death and what that might mean for trade with the Hayfords (some people already figured it out), what do we do with all of this backstock and horses, how to deal with our food deficit, etc.
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>>3527306
See>>3526694
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>>3527449
>spoiler
Like I said earlier a doll of a valyrian princess seems like something they'd make in Lys
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>>3527449
The most important thing is we need to get Lorelei a horse.
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>>3527453
Just want to say, you right very well and it is always good to read even or maybe especially when I get mad as it shows investment in characters and events. As much as you appreciate us I'm sure most of us appreciate you more as you do not get anything from qming.
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>>3527449
>Goldwaters
Would his words be
“On Your Grave”
Or maybe
”In The Wind”
“Flowing Gold”
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>>3527453
I for one would love to discuss potential trading partners. Especially now that Hayward is likely to rebuff any and all alliances.

The lady of the house seemed more reasonable, but it would legitimately sadden me to see another of Brynden's family die even if the house itself prospered.

As for the rest, I will frankly admit that I have forgotten most of Malroys neighbors, relationships and trading partners.

would you be so kind as to give us a brief rundown on Brynden's

>closest neighbors?
>houses in good standing?
and
>houses who particularly dont like us?

I think thay a short recap would do wonders for stimulating conversation
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We ought to get her a Rocking Horse
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>>3527594

Would he choose waters specifically? I mean, if you found a new house you can choose a name, I don't think keeping the waters part in the house name is compulsory even if he would still get called waters. And Bryden sees him as his Son, not his bastard; whatever the laws of Westeros say, Victus would probably feel the same way.

I'd personally be inclined for him to name his house, if he ever gets one, House Goldsong. 'Goldwaters' both admits a bastardy that he's never really felt, and 'Goldwaters' can also be interpreted as 'urine'. And I think Victus deserves better then getting called a long streak of piss all his life.
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For trade, I'm pretty sure we'll still have to invest a bit in the Caravanserai on Cracklaw Point.
Those outposts were built to facilitate trade to Essos for one, and if we are going there on a honeymoon we can hopefully get some trade from there.

Apart from that, I also forgot most of it.
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>>3527695
I think the Hayfords are going to be out for a while. But we should still try and help them out wherever possible. Maybe have Dontos or someone else gift them the money? Behind the scenes of we have too.

Father mentioned the Chelsteds as good trading partners which is solid. If we manage to not look like total assholes with our reparations, we should look to the Reach in order to meet our food production quotas. And looking at the map in >>3521023, the riverlands or the westerlands could be promising as well. I dont think the crownlands sre going to be very fruitful for a while due to the upheaval were causing
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>>3527548
Most Malroys will get their first horse around 7-8 and start to learn riding around then as well. Granted Obella will be anxious about it.

>>3527594
>>3527848
Alright fair point, not really sure how I missed that. Haha No piss jokes for a name.

Hm... I'm not sure then, I might have to open that up at some point. Who knows, moot point at the moment seeing as he isn't landed or looking to be any time soon.

Pic related are his personal arms though.

>>3527839
Oh that's a good one.

>>3527695
>As for the rest, I will frankly admit that I have forgotten most of Malroys neighbors, relationships and trading partners.
To be fair, I doubt a lot of people remember at this point. Benjin is going to do a good job of giving you a lot of local options during the House meeting and Obella will have some input from her spies about who might be in need. So essentially consider this information that he'd give you.

There are however two documents that will give you guys a lot of information and I am incredibly glad I kept such detailed logs.

Dispositions of Houses & People of the Realm:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PPW1pNmkObhy14JsXvUf4XMgo62ONRDdhsS2gP59_RQ/edit?usp=sharing

House Malroy & Blackflower: Food, Trade, & Inventory:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zAcWLAiRBnJFyFkcoNrL3xaDKu6uIlsqZmp1_KOLwUo/edit?usp=sharing

Both of these are in the Mastersheet. The former gives you a good overview of the characters and Houses that Brynden has met and have interacted with in the past. There are Houses that just have opinions on you as well, as vague as they may be. The latter is a new document that shows all of your incomes and trade deals at present moment. Currently your biggest trade partners are the Crabbs, Longwaters, and Hayfords. Benjin would recommend investing more in the Longwaters trade and strengthening that tie with the ones with the Hayfords deteriorating. The Tyrells, via Willas and Ser Olymer, will be looking to ignite major trade within the coming months for the Valyrian Golden Coursers and they have a variety of goods.
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>>3528178
I think a lot depends on how we handle the current situation.

Dad said that people would be crawling out if the woodwork to claim bits and pieces from Langward.

That in and of itself is a bargaining opportunity along the lines of "give me a reason to and I wont seek X leaving it available for you"

However, owning something is far superior to trading for it.

There are other ways to play this as well.

I was thinking, what if we sent BOTH (dammit dad your alliteratory naming system confuses me to no end!) Ser Langly and the knight of the tear to the wall. Then take the second son hostage.

We use the hostage to force the Langward contingent to quit the field without a fight preserving some of our Power.

Then, a spy in Obella's employ concerned citizen risks everything to save the Langward ward assisting in his escape.

A boy of 14 is likely to believe such things more easily than a man seasoned. And we will finally have a spy in somwhat proximity to Royce.

The Langwards under Lucos will jump right back into plotting against us, but this time we will have an idea what they are up to.

Then, when Royce is dealt with it will fall out that the young Lord Langward is as much a snake as his father ever was. a second round of reparations will be in order and it will utterly devastate them. Likely to the point of nonexistance. Thier lands can be fully folded into ours at that point instead of pieces.

Things might even hit the Blount's.

We want to goad them into action while limiting the effectiveness of that action.

I say we take the title (though its the least interesting in my opinion), money, lands, and the aforementioned ward.

If we can request that the crown limit the number of trooos at their disposal so much the better.
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>closest neighbors?
>>3523536 Actually provides a good idea of your closer neighbors. I should probably update the name of Byford however as that isn't what the Blount domain is called. Oh well.

>houses in good standing?
Chelsted to the west and Stokeworth to your east would likely both be willing trade with you. The Houses of Crackclaw Point (Brunes, Pyne, Hardy, Alder) would also be willing to listen, though you have less than they desire other than food and Processed Iron. But your alliance with them does open up bigger possibilities and the caravanserai in Dyre Den will help out a lot with facilitating trade.

Down the Blackwater Rush you have a few options, but only by virtue of the Longwaters being so friendly with you and willing to help ship trade though will likely expect some payment depending upon the distance (i.e. more food), Wendwater, Massey, Naeltarys, and Rykker will all deal with you.

>houses who particularly dont like us?
Obviously Houses Langward, Redward, and Blount aren't going to trade with you. House Thorne to your direct north has historically not been a huge fan of the Malroys and the relationship between the two Houses is icy at best.

Also you aren't in the best graces with the Celtigars and Velaryons. More the former than the latter. Jon Longwaters has been making an attempt to shine you in a better light to his liege. Maybe you'll hear from the Velaryons again with continued positive reputation gain.

>>3528145
Oh right that reminds me. The Orlisis family is in Lys as well, the one that Brynden's second 'bastard' is the Heir of. The deal majorly in perfumes, which would be a luxury good in Westeros and likely fetch a good price. But that does come with deal with Brynden's past on his honeymoon so...
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>>3528265
>Oh right that reminds me. The Orlisis family is in Lys as well, the one that Brynden's second 'bastard' is the Heir of. The deal majorly in perfumes, which would be a luxury good in Westeros and likely fetch a good price. But that does come with deal with Brynden's past on his honeymoon so...

I think we should get that rolling. I know Obella will give us a lot of pouting about it no doubt. But that money can not be ignored.
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>>3528262
why are most of the people who like us dead?
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>>3528298
There seem to be a common denominator
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>>3528265
>that does come with deal with Brynden's past on his honeymoon so...
I suppose we'd need to tell Obella all about the woman beforehand and hope she doesn't hate it for it. It sounds like a grea opportunity.

>>3528262
>House Malroy & Blackflower: Food, Trade, & Inventory:
This document isn't very easy to read as it is, in my opinion. It might be because I'm not very good with the rules and crunch, though.

For one, I think moving the completed trade deals to a separate page would be a lot clearer than it is now. Easy fix.
Secondly, I don't really see the point in mentioning what kind of holding the trade goods come from. For instance, "Animal Husbandry(High-Quality Leatherworks) - 3 Extraordinary Leather" seems like a needlessly difficult way of saying "3 extraordinary leather" when mentioning what we get from trade. For the food, I suppose you could change "Fishing>Processing - 15 Food" into "15 food (fish)".

Thirdly I'm not sure putting the leather at both income and outgoing is very handy. I understand that that shows that we don't produce it ourselves and first gain it and then sell it again, but it took me a bit to figure out.

Last (and a minor one): what does the +1 net extraordinary leather come from?
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>>3528145
The Whispers are a smugglers bay. If you want to make money that could be a good way. If we are careful.

Ten years of relative peace and prosperity are already begun in Westeros. Now is the time to make our fortune. The way to do it is with silks, spices, perfumes, tiger skins, ivory, Myrish carpets, lace, eyes, and crossbows. Saffron, incense, pepper, olives.

Just about anything ships from Essos, and even the Seven Kingdoms, want to sell without the taxes and tariffs on ships and cargo they’d deal with in King’s Landing (A gift from the new Master of Coin).

Of course we’d have to have someone on the opposite side to sell all our low priced goods to the people of the Seven Kingdoms. Specifically someone who can’t be connected back to Brynden and his house.

That is how we can become a wealthy house.
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I really, REALLY dont think dealing with the Orlisis family is a good idea from a nuptial, paternal or any other viewpoint for that matter.

Obella is going to HATE it because that woman is the only woman that would be considered "on par" with her hold over Brynden. Brynden tries to forget he even has another daughter, and the perfumes from his ex lover gives him flashbacks. Just seems like way more trouble than its worth, and why ruin a perfectly good honeymoon?
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>>3528262
>Dispositions of Houses & People of the Realm:
is this updated after the trial?
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>>3528324
Because we desperatly need coin and trade and we need to expand our influence.

I also want to see the drama
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>>3528263
Now THAT is a cunning plan. As cunning as a fox who as been appointed Professor of Cunning at Oxford University. Vigorously supoorting using Obella and her handmaidens espionage skills to pull a sneaky one on Lucos.
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>>3528314

I dunno. We have enemies who are watching us, one whiff of impropriety and flouting the laws of the land and they'll try to bring Bobby B down on us to bury us. I don't think we always have to be entirely honest or fair, but we do need to keep to the right side of legality to stop our enemies declaring 'feeding frenzy' on our stuff.
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>>3528309
Incredibly helpful input, thank you. Honestly that crunch is more homebrew than anything so I would understand if it's confusing for most people. Got the stuff you mentioned real quick, it was a work in progress document so I did miss some things here and there like that errant extra leather.

Also I only wrote those in a needlessly difficult manner so I could remember what Holdings each trade item came from in case we want to trade in inventory for Resource bonuses during House Fortunes. I'll admit it is needlessly complex but its more for my own sake and I'm definitely going to try to streamline and make this "easier" in game when we talk shop and I present your options. So please do bear with me on it but I'll definitely be looking into it.
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>>3528262
>name
Plymwaters if he loves the Violet Hills
Steadwaters

Coltwaters a pun and a young horse reference for a young house.

And Duskwaters or Dawnwaters for “Ride Unto the Sunset” or He could change his words to “Ride unto the Sunrise”
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>>3528348
That’s why we have middle men. Mercenaries and sellwords, spies who will go unnoticed coming and going. And merchants. Brynden need do nothing but give the orders and spend the coin.
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>>3528263
Very good. I’ll support this.
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>>3528324
I completely agree with you.

>>3528327
I respect you for being honest, but come on man.
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>>3528263
As cunning as this plan is, it requires way too many pieces, I think we should be able to get a spy in his midst without wasting time with wards. The more decisions you make, the more twists and turns in a plan the more likely it is to fail, simply get one of Obella's spies into their holdings as a maid or cook. Lords are infamous for thinking little of small folk, so they leave written messages relatively unguarded, someone with literacy would completely shock them especially a lowly servant.
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>>3528380

Again, why the fixation on the waters? Goldstead, Coltfield, Duskplym, Maldawn; there's so many other options we could theoretically take.

Remember, the founder of House Longwaters was not Jon Waters, they royal bastard; but his son, who was proud of his Father's royal heritage despite the Bastardry.

In contrast, Brynden does not see Victus as a bastard, and doesn't want his son to feel like one. Being seen as a bastard here is a legal Westerosi technicality that neither of them really feel or want, NOT a source of any pride. Brynden sees the marriage that begat Victus as a True one. He'd probably encourage his son to take a name emphasizing this, such as 'Truegold' or 'Trueroy', should his son ever start a house with a name of their own.
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>>3528459
>Trying to hide your house’s origins in bastardy? Sounds like something a sneaky son of a bastard would do.
People always find out. And remember.
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>>3528349
Thanks dad! Your quests are really the only time I come into contact with the system and while I understand the basics it's been a while for me too.

That makes sense. The putting the completed trade deals on another page honestly helps a lot already when it comes to quickly looking up where the numbers come from. Not saying it can't be improved still, but the document became much easier to quickly consult already.
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>>3528485

Then if we really need to show it somewhere we put it into our flag, whilst we ignore it completely in our name. Like house Bolling did.
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So im guessing one of our spy cells is in the Langwards lands right? Where should we put the other ones? Im scared of Varys in Kings Landing.
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>>3528509
plausible deniability is a must imo
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>>3528263
Cao cao please stop posting
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>>3528298
>>3528301
Oh fuck off. You guys did this last time too. It was annoying then and even more so now. Worse than the people bitching about the Trial.
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>>3528499
It could have been a knight descended from bastardy which married into Bolling and took their name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_(heraldry)

But the true reason behind using the Waters or the Flowers in the name is the history and the story behind the name. Victus' house will not be like any other house. They were born of a bastard. They may do even greater things then the Malroys in their time, who can say. From small beginnings come great things and all that. His bloodline will know where they came from, how far they came. They may not get such if they're named as any other house.

And it makes the universe richer with the different naming conventions.
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>>3528298
>>3528301
>>3528590
I liked the trial, it felt realistic-ish to me.
People will die, so we should try to keep our shit together
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>>3528599
Yeah. It did. Merely just acknowledge that people get hurt around us.
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>>3528598

Which only makes sense if being a bastard becomes the core of Victus's internal vision of himself, what he sees as an integral part of his identity. Which... HE DOES NOT. His Father and Mother WERE married, even if Westerosi law didn't recognize it. People will call him a bastard, but he does not see HIMSELF as a bastard. So he's unlikely to even give a thought to including waters as part of his housename unless he's put under pressure to.
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>>3527453
Awesome to see you back Dad, I followed this quest since we impregnated the seamstress's daughter. Victus pov thread when?
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I was thinking in the shower, Victus wants to go to Dorne. It'd be fantastic if he could buddy up to the Martell girl some more, right?

If I remember correctly, Sunspear has a little district with villas of noble houses, right? Kind of like how we have a villa in King's Landing. What if we were to get a villa in Sunspear, put our sister and her child there and squire off Victus to a household knight of the Martells?

We'd get Victus a nice squiredom in Sunspear, the political centre of Dorne and close to his girlfriend-to-be, we have a house in Dorne and our sister is away from us like she would be if we sent her to King's Landing.
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>>3528744
Yes a villa in the shadow city and a child spy in the Water Gardens would be good. We may even be able to get in on the Dornish plans. That’s a winning team.
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>>3528727
I guess we’ll see. He will be growing up in the Seven Kingdoms as bastard, that may change his mindset. And really it’s not what he thinks but what his child thinks. It’ll be the trueborn child, if Victus has any, that choses the new name.
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>>3528744

This makes a heck of a lot of sense.
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>>3528262
Get her a linen doll that she can hug while she sleeps. Stilts for when she bcomes older. And some toy horses and humans for her to play around with
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Hey does anyone know where I can find the file for the House Redward coat of arms?
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I'm actually thinking of letting victus go to Dorne sooner than planned if he can be in proximity to the Martells. Arianne developing affectio for Victus as they both grow up and start finding their first paramours would be an absolute game changer. Victus is so great and best boy I ha e no doubt all the girls will be head over heels for him
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>>3528835
He needs to finish his training.
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>>3528835
We should cozy up the Orphans of the Greenblood. Learn some Rhoynish. Also the Sand Snakes. As well as any Dalts and generally anyone from a house near Sunspear.
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>>3528843
Yes but we also need to strike while the iron is still hot regarding all those dornish girls developing their first crushes before their social circles become solidified
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>>3528911
Amen. Sunspear is the place to foster him. Sandstone would be nice because of the family ties and all, but Sunspear is where Princess Arianne is, so Sunspear is where we should send him. I'm sure Obella could arrange something through her connections with Doran
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>>3528835
>>3528918
I think it'd be ideal if we wait until we get Isis back and then send take a trip to Sunspear, buy a villa and try to find someone to squire Victus with. He can still learn a lot from Dontos for now and I'd rather he has family around in Sunspear.
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Did we ever get that dragonbone bow
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>>3529040
who would want a bow made from a dragon cock?
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>>3529040
Not yet. There is a lot of things we want to do.

>>3528977
For that we need A LOT of money.
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>>3529059
A townhouse costs between 2-4 wealth. Nothing too absurd
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>>3529059
One good house fortune roll and we'll be fine. Maybe 2.
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Just posting the old plan to negotiate with the iron bank for the return of the malroy dragon egg.

We approach the bank for a meeting, stating that redfuck wont be able to repay the loan he used it as collateral for because hes going to get busted for slaving, thus he will be defaulting on their loan. However, we will offer that the bank keeps hold of the egg and allows us to take out a loan for its value, putting us into debt again to pay for the egg to be returned to its rightful owners, forstalling anyone else having the ability to buy the egg before it even goes onto the market.

To back up our credentials we will have our current bay of pigs banker write us a summation of payments over time, essentially copying our payment records to show that we have banked before, despite being westrosi and we are reliable. We'll do this in exchange of offering to direct other westrosi lords to our current bay of pigs banker specifically, amoung some gifts and a generic promise to come to him for future projects. That should get his greed ticking enough to agree.

Should this work, we will have a good credit history with two very major essos banks who will also be very good sources of information for future trade projects and our dragon egg back in family hands.

The only hickup is if we meet with a retarded iron bank man who asks for too much when its money falling into his lap for doing nothing.
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>>3529130
I don't understand. You're saying we'll pay the Iron Bank so they'll pay Redward for the egg?
We can't buy the egg from the Bank because the Bank does not own it.
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>>3529135
The iron bank gave redward money, redward put the egg up as collateral. If he defaults on the loan the bank claims the egg as their property.

Now they are out of money, so what do they do? Well they have this valuble and rare dragon egg! Might as well sell it and recoup some of the cash right?

Oh wait, this westrosi lord is willing to pay us for the egg without us even having to find a buyer. Hes willing to go into a loan payment for the value of the egg, so we can get our money back instead of an auction gamble! And his credit histroy is good.
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>>3529138
Did that loan go through yet? I thought Redward was just negotiating with banks in Braavos so far.
My bad if that's the case, I guess.
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Bryden has been fucking with Redwards slaving operations and will, within the next few ingame months, more than likely make the entier enterprise crash down on his head.

So redwards IS going to default. What we offer is to take on the loan for the egg as a "If he defaults" clause.

>>3529140
I think I remember word of QM that the egg was in an iron bank vault.
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>>3529144
From http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/591524/
(the thread I-L recap) about our to do list

>>Have Sareya Vollion help you deal with the Iron Bank and get the egg back from Royce's people or at the very least out of the equation

That suggests the egg is still with Royce's people. I just ctr+f'd for egg though
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>>3529153
Well lets see when and where we find the egg. If its with the iron bank when we catch up to it then the egg loan plan is viable. If not well, we will just have to see what we can do.
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>>3529169
It'd be so nice if we found Royce's men with the egg and with the help of our Essosi friends we had to do another heist scene like Solhas (wasn't that the guy who saved the brother?) did!

Also weren't we banned from Braavos?
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>>3529174
I really should get round to rereading the old threads at some point, its been a while.
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>>3529177
I read them a few weeks back. Coincidentally I was about halfway through when Dad announced his return
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>>3529174
We are banned from Bravos on pain of deah for seducing the Sealords sister(?). And you're thinking of Illiad. But it would be pretty knarly to have a dragon egg and a dragon bone bow.
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>>3529184
Not to mention that Illiad has lost his leg.
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>>3529191
His house words: No leg, no egg
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>>3529191
Right but I really liked the heist session. Would be fun to do another one of those.
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>>3529138
>accepting the first offer instead of driving up demand by inciting competition

That would be the makings of a piss poor banker my friend. Malory would be just another interested buyer to them.

If we want it back we have to prove Redward had no legal authority -by their laws- to use it as collateral. And even then they will likely try to fleece us.
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>>3522919
I've seen a few on akun most are hot garbage though I kinda like one that's using the system in a fantasy Europe, the mcs a bit overpowered since he wad s made into a combat monster, and right now the house is super rich after taking part in a war and looting a city. The QM is at least open to criticism though I saw him snap after one anon kept badgering him about how unrealistic the scenario was.
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>>3528263
>>3528435
The point of the wards (and on reflection it might work far better with both the younger wards) is to force Langward off the field and buy us some breathing room.

After all if he attacks he knows with certainty that his neice and nephew (?) will die. Factor that in with the death of the head of his house and it seems more likely that he would surrender.

ESPECIALLY if we offer to ransom him back to his new lord as a gesture of peace and allow his men to leave unmolested so long as they lay down arms and armor.

This A) makes Brynden look merciful as fuck, B) gains us a discount on the purchase of a unit via equipment, C) forces Langward to reequip their soldiers which will take some time and drain their depleted resources.

On top of all that it doesnt actually prevent them from rejoining the fight against Brynden later. To outside appearances we would be relying on hostages for that.

In reality we WANT them to come after us again. Something Lucos will certainly do.

It can easily be surmised that the Langwards are loyal to the queen. Seven hells they named their daughter Cersei. Thus, having Lucos installed as head of house will to her be a seeming boon. BUT she will have to spend a bit of political capital in order to dig her useful tools out of the pit they are in. Then, when they get knicked up with a slaver of all things she will either lose more face, or have to expend even more political capital to distance herself from the affair.

As for the spy, dont kid yourself, servants hear EVERYTHING. And a woman who risked life and limb to save the youngest children of the house could likely land a much more important position than mere cook or servant. Especially if she comes bearing horrible tales of how she suffered under the rapacious grasp of that Bastard Brynden.

In fact she could likely earn a position as Lady Beautrice handmaiden. You know, considering she saved her two youngest children?

That position would likely give our spy access to pretty much anything she wanted. Much better than a cook or servant.

Anyway, thays my two cents. I jad considered reducing the "bandits" by decimation and having the unlucky tenth sentenced to forced labor repairing our walls, but that might not fly. plus the last time we did so the bonuses were mediocre.
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You all know we have to kick the asses of who is in the field first before any chance of reparations from the laggylads will happen though right?
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>>3529687
But sleepy we have the saviours of Kings Landing fighting with us, the noble men of Lannister, Banefort and Drox. Surely that will make a difference in the field, as none can stand before such valiant men. There are no finer knights in all the seven kingdoms!!

Don't forget we have the cloak of the Hooded Man in our vaults, the ancestral shroad of House Banefort
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Should we have a crack at inheriting Hayford if Wesley's child is a girl?

It'd be nice to subdue these other houses if we can, become styled 'Lord of the Rush' or 'Lord of the Blackwater'
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>>3529600
oh man, I actually liked that one. It's also not unrealistic to get rich off of sacking and looting a city, especially if you beeline for the jewish section and loot all the slaves, debt and contracts they own lul
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>>3529938
Nah man leave the Hayford's alone. Jesus christ we have done enough to hurt our Uncle.
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>>3529938
No, we already swore with Lucas that we'd do everything we could for the child, stealing their land is not one of those things.
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>>3529938
I vote we leave them alone until the Lannisters start being fuckboys and try to take over. Then we either press our claim in case of worst case scenario or throw full support behind the child, weighty military strength. Just sit angrily on the border
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>>3529955
>>3529957
>>3529974

I mean if Wesley's kid is a boy this won't be an issue. But if it's a girl it'll be a hot topic in the crown lands, every family worth their salt will be sniffing around for a betrothal.
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>>3530025
By the Old Gods and the New. By R'hllor and the Black Goat. By the ancient gods of Old Valyria. Father please let Wesley's child be a boy.
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>>3528263
Won't comment on the plan at large because I love how much thought is going into these things and I feel like once things settle we're going to have enough information and plans to bang out some good shit.

>If we can request that the crown limit the number of trooos at their disposal so much the better.
That is 100% something you can do during the reparations trial. The Langwards have a massive army of 1500 and the Langlys with 300. IIRC. It wouldn't even be a hard ask, like a DC 12. Force them to disband some of their military coupled with taking their means to host such a large army and population will do a lot in the way of clipping their wings. I'll put it on the list of ideas.

All of these plans though... You guys are vengeful as fuck. Like beyond what I would have personally come up with given Brynden's motivation. I feel like Wesley dying did a lot to increase the pure hatred for the Langwards.

>>3528298
I remember receiving this a lot in the past and honestly I still can't see it. You have a ton of allies.The Trial by Seven is the most massive culling of allies I've ever done in quest. You were a Valyrian House in a new world with an ill reputed sellsword last son Lord. I don't know what people expect or want here. People die. The Hayfords just happen to be in the worst spot.

>>3528325
Yes it has been. Indicting those who are now dead and the Hayfords massive drop in opinion. I think I might need to clean it up some more here though.

>>3528327
Oh the drama it would bring. Those votes are going to be salt mines.

>>3528348
The spy network is a step into the less than legal side of the world. Brynden did just take someone to court and is willing to go further war over a spy/assassin so... You know.

I won't ever give a hard no on "illegal" plans, so long as you do it properly and not give away your hand on it. Because if you do I will punish you accordingly and you all should full well expect that. High risk, high reward ordeal.

>>3528380
Those are some quality names, I'll keep them around.

>>3528459
>Brynden sees the marriage that begat Victus as a True one
I genuinely don't think I've ever said that Brynden and Lysa of Tyrosh "married". I feel like that would be something I'd use and harp on in Brynden's inner monologue. Feel free to show me if I have.

Otherwise you are mostly correct. The way Victus has been treated by his father and the Sons and Essosi is that he is Brynden's son and that's that. Since returning home he has definitely had a culture shock, specifically from Dontos in the beginning, and is still dealing with the bastard stigma being so predominant in Westeros. So I suppose it's a mixed bag. Victus is still very young and shaping his own world views, opinions, and priorities.

We shall see in the future should such a thing become reality.

>>3528487
Ah good, I'm glad that helped at least some. I'll continue working on it. Thank you.
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>>3528509
That is going to be something we do in the next House thread, jesus christ I am going to have the longest fucking House Fortunes section. You are correct, the Langward domain already has one of your cells installed, because Obella is a wonderful Spy Mistress that took the opportunity immediately. The other two we will be able to start directing soon, she'll have some recommendations but will listen to Brynden's ideas as well.

>>3528732
>followed this quest since we impregnated the seamstress's daughter.
Poor Dorian. Forgotten in Maidenpool. Y'all should recognize him. It'd be fun.

>Victus pov thread when?
Would there be a genuine interest in this? I don't know if I could write one that would be interesting. But if people want one at some point I might consider it.

>>3528744
Isis doesn't have any interest in being that far from home. Ideally she'd stay in Steadhold. King's Landing is... Okay. But you guys do remember what happened to her at the Villa right? Brynden can convince her of it, and he definitely needs to invest in the Villa to bring it back up to snuff, but she isn't keen on the idea at present.

Otherwise, building/buying an estate in Sunspear would be a great idea if you want Obella to be happy and continue building your relations with the dornish. Victus wouldn't mind one way or the other but would definitely take it upon himself to run the estate like his father would run a House. One of those things where he wants to do his father proud. It's an idea, that politically makes sense and would do you some good. But I wonder if it's something you really want to prioritize at the moment.

>>3528827
Hahaha I don't know why but the stilts got me. It just seems so absurd. She is definitely going to take after her move and love acrobatics and the whole aerial silk stuff, man I really need to use that again it made Obella so fun. But otherwise, noted.

>>3528834
Picture related.

>>3528977
That would be a good plan for post Redward content arcs.

>>3529130
Man I am still trying to figure out how I'm going to do this properly. Thank you Lady Sareya Vollion for making it somewhat easier though.

Whenever Brynden gets back from Lys and helps the Longwaters with their pirate issue Brynden is going to have a good sit down with her and they'll negotiate the price for her throwing her family's weight around to make the Iron Bank comply and throttle the Redwards attempts. She mostly wants a high profile betrothal, but helping her husband with manner of trade and expanding his influence is also good.

>>3529144
I'd say it's probably closer to 6 months to a year when Brynden has everything perfectly aligned to bring Royce's world down in a beautiful storm of death and revenge.
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>>3529153
I want to say that is correct. I think the idea is that it is currently being held by the Iron Bank for safe keeping but Royce's people still have access to it. At least that's the story I'll go with moving forward.

Why did I quit running. I used to remember everything. Now I remember nothing. To live is to suffer.

>>3529208
Its the Royce being a slaving piece of shit thing that is Brynden's major clout in this. Sareya is going to do her part in freezing the asset and potentially making Brynden look like the wronged party in this (we'll do her rolls and she'll report back in a letter some weeks after Brynden is done with the pirates) and then after Brynden brings his hammer down on Royce and the truth comes out he can begin his effort in earnest to get the egg back, hopefully with a positive opinion on dealing so harshly with a slaver.

Fuck me this is complicated. Why do y'all like this shit.

>>3529600
The system is really easy to break to be fair. Speccing hard into one section makes the character an absolute machine, but a good GM/QM knows how to balance that by making the things they're less proficient at a worthwhile check and balance so that the game is still challenging and you can't just slap dick everything into submission with zero repercussions.

>>3529664
This shit is getting Machiavellian. I'm impressed, and taking note. In case the thought is something we want to pursue.

>>3529687
This is correct. Deal with the bandits first. Go to King's Landing and demand clays. Might actually benefit from having Jaime around to bear witness if you know how to play your cards right. He isn't as outright disdainful of Brynden as Cersei, neutral even, he's just a fucking knob, smug and arrogant to boot.

>>3529771
>spoiler
One of, not the end all be all one, but it is an important piece of Banefort history that would be greatly appreciated upon its return. Alliances in strange places? Who knows. Benjin will bring it up. Dontos will not be a fan of the idea.

I really do need to figure out who, specifically will be there. I know the heir of Banefort will be. But I haven't thought further, Drox perhaps. I kind of want to include Tygon Reynolds, but I feel it might be a bit presumptions on my end. Don't know. Have a week and a half to work on it.

>>3530025
I, hilariously, haven't actually decided yet which way I want to go. I think both sides have incredibly stories to tell. But I'm not sure which I'd do better or would enjoy telling more.

Halfway tempted to just flip a coin for it in thread the day Cassana gives birth and Brynden finds out. And we can all be surprised.
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>>3530176
>>3530179
If you don't mind me asking who is Lady Sareya again?
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Ser Jon Longwaters wife. They have a first-born son, Aenys Longwaters, and a child on the way that if its a girl will be named Isis. Jon asked if he could honor her in such a way after they became allies but before they knew she was still alive, he'll still do it though.
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>>3530200
Why did I think she was someone completely different?
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>>3530200
She's also a contemporary of Obella iirc, a spymistress for her wealthy family in Volantis.
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>>3530176
>Victus pov thread when
no thanks

>>3530179
>tempted to just flip a coin for it in thread the day Cassana gives birth and Brynden finds out. And we can all be surprised.
yes please
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>>3527453
>Oh and also. I'm surprised no one is talking about House Fortunes/potentially hammering out more trade with our neighbors. There is a lot to be talking about there.
Personally, I think we should try and fix things up between us and the Celtigars. They're rich, and it'd pay big dividends in matters of trade.

Other folks we ought to reach out to include House Sunglass, House Bar Emmon and House Velaryon. If we're going to be bringing more commerce into Steadhold via the waterways, it would pay to have good relations with those houses that ply the blackwater and control the watchtower at sharp point.
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>>3530225
HE LIIIIIIIIIIIVES!!!
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>>3530179
Not presumptious at all Father. We can hash some things out this week if you want. I'm curious to see how Brynden will react to Tygon all things considered. Tygon is a charming son of a butch, but hes still a Westerman to his core. I havent really thought out what House Reynold did during the Rebellion, but I'm sure we can come up with something!
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>>3530225
Targfag you glorious fucknugget how are ya?!
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>>3530225
>targfag is still around

goddamn
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>>3530323
Pretty okay. It's a bit of a bummer about Wesley, but ultimately he gave his life for his convictions and I think we made the right choices given our options. Poor Lucerys never even stood a chance.

I probably would have voted to try and hang on to the Prince's favour, but I would've been wrong to do it. We needed him out on the field for sure.
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>>3530176
Ah thanks for the pic Father
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>>3530225
Targfag! I'm glad you're back
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I know Obella wanted us to space out our kids a bit more but honestly after the ordeal we just went through and finally seeing her again I think she's going to have her second kid sooner than expected

Also I really want us to have two kids old enough to be players in the game if we ever manage to timeskip to the books. I really hope we do by the way, it would be sad if we never got a chance to see Lorelei actually have a personality and see how she turns out other than being a gurgling baby. At our current pace we'll never get to even see her walk if we don't pull the trigger on a timeskip after killing Redfuck and having our honeymoon.
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>>3530628
Considering Obella took Brynden fully without having him pull out multiple days in a row. They may very well have.
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>>3530633

What is this "pull out"? Never heard of it.
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>>3530635
Neither has Brynden!
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We should acknowledge Dorian just to prank Dontos
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>>3530203
Not exactly, iirc, she definitely has a lot of contact with spies and the like as a part of the Vollion family in Volantis. She did know Obella prior to her marrying Brynden, thus showing up at the party. Man I'm still proud of that scene, that whole arc was peak story telling for me. Sareya is mostly money and politics, she has the Head for Numbers Benefit and basically runs House Longwaters' economy now.

>>3530225
Well shit me, good to see you again Targfag.

Unfortunately, the Celtigars are unlikely to ever speak to Brynden outside of extreme circumstance. Between allying so closely with the Crackclaw Point Lords, Lucerys dying fighting for Brynden, and everything else. Their historic rivals however, House Naeltarys might however, though they aren't huge fans of you allying with the Crackclaw Point Lords.

Bar Emmons have a minorly negative opinion of Brynden(though likely could be swayed with the right talk), Sunglass haven't forgotten Brynden ditching their daughter with a whore and his bastard child, and the Velaryons are leaning closer to neutral now with Jon Longwaters doing work, though the lady of the House is still a Celtigar and isn't a fan, Monford Velaryon is willing to at least listen to Brynden regarding trade but unlikely much else at the moment besides high profile betrothals. Jon is trying his damnedest to provide you an in.

>>3530267
I'll shoot you a message of twitter in the coming days. Tygon's father being a Lantell might be a point of contention between the two. Looking forward to it.

>>3530628
I'm rolling behind the scenes. Emotional Obella isn't thinking rationally right now, because becoming pregnant so closely after giving birth and the 11 months between now and her spy mission are major reasons why she shouldn't be getting knocked up. BUT HERE WE ARE.

>spoiler
I do plan on a major timeskip post Redward and likely pushing through some events after dealing with the bandits and pirates with some minor timeskips.
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Anyway, fixing up your options on Lands/Wealth Holdings you can take from Langward via reparations. I feel these are balanced.

Option I - Langward Domain II:
>Lands: Plains [Available Food+Grasslands+River+Road] (17 Lands)
>Wealth (Estate): Apiary (5 Wealth)
>Law: -3
>Population: +6

This is the domain to your direct northeast, continuing the stretch of the God's Eye River and Road you own. This domain would provide 10 Foods. The bandits have also ransacked an abbey of brown brothers that produced mead and should Brynden take over they would come to Steadhold and petition him to invest in the rebuilding of the abbey so they could continue their trade. These guys would be loosely based on trappist monks. Being open fields and rolling plains the population gained from this will be significantly larger, something that might concern Brynden's food stores, but will also make governing and patrolling significantly easier so the Law negative to stamping out the rest of the bandits and lawlessness is lesser.

If you don't take this domain the Thornes will make a play at it based on old claims.

Option II - Langward Domain III
>Lands: Plains[Light Forest] (8 Lands)
>Wealth (Estate): Fur-Trade (10 Wealth)
>Law: -6
>Population: +3

The domain to your direct northwest, continuing on the section of the Princewood that you own. Of the two it is significantly smaller and very lightly populated and thus you will have less to worry about in terms of feeding more mouths, but the woods and the people that do live there will shelter the bandits that may escape and are staunchly loyal to the Langwards as well thus making it more difficult to reign them in an lawlessness more abundant. The domain also comes with a thriving Fur-Trade, mostly that of deer. Though honestly I don't know much of animal furs so whatever fluff you want. and it will provide you with 10 Common Pelts for trading. Langward had been planning to expand the operation and had the groundwork in place for a fur ranch in the future, a project Brynden could likely take over.

Should you not decide to go after this domain House Chyttering will instead, likely by force.
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>>3530857
Tough choices. I think the first will be better if we can increase our food production.
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>>3530856
I swear to god Dad we have the Archmaester of Healing, summer island medicine, and the willingness to spare no expense. Baby Wesley will be perfectly healthy and anything otherwise would be unfair bullshit.

Speaking of which I wanted to ask about using Benjin's research and our summer islers on staff to produce Summer Isles medicinal herbs in our greenhouses, combined with their research on the application of them they would be extremely valuable.
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>>3530857
Option 1 for the food and the mead monks.
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>>3530857
I would go for option II, having the rest of the woodlands would make controlling the place much easier if theres no imaginary line in the middle to worry about crossing over.

Option I is nice, but the plains don't really help food wise because they come with a high population, which with our current refuge crisis already has coverd. Unless we can use the plains for the production of more cavalry in future. Having said that we can probably get a relationship bonus with the priests if we help the monks.
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>>3530857
going for domain II seems like the best choice, but we should send a raven or approach house chyttering to see if we can wring some concessions out of the decision.

military aid would be fantastic, but unlikely. Trade concessions would work just as well nothing insane of course.

15% of their furs dropping to 10% the second year, and 5% the third with the deal ending on the fifth. Combined with an agreement that we will not sell the furs in any competing markets I think they might go for it.

failling that we could bargain for any other resource they have. After all advanced knowledge of what Brynden will amd wont demand as a result of this has its own specific value right now.

As for the apiary we should definitely invest in that. And send half of the first years production to king's landing for free to grace Robert's feaats. It will directly improve his impression of us (especially if we manage to improve their product) and act as free "advertising" for our product. Varys might be able to insinuate the mead into the feasthall with ease, but im worried as to what he might ask.

We should also dye our hair agaon, or Bobby is going to look less than favorably on us.
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>>3530991
>military aid would be fantastic, but unlikely. Trade concessions would work just as well nothing insane of course.
Honestly them giving us free shot seems unlikely, but we could probably leverage that offer to not pursue domain II to get a regular trade agreement with a slant in our favor. That would be a lot easier a sell than just getting them to give us even a small amount of stuff: just speaking in terms of psychologically. Wed probably even make more profit than that small amount of furs if we just used it as a circumstance bonus for a normal trade bargain.
>>We should also dye our hair again, or Bobby is going to look less than favorably on us
Absolutely fucking not.
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>>3530857
Does this mean we need to invest 17 land + 5 wealth into buying Domain II (and 8 + 10) in Domain III or do we just get that for free, since it's compensation?

Either way, I think Domain II is the better choice. It's a direct continuation of the road and river we already have, and it produces 10 food. 6 extra population gives at most 3 extra food needed per house fortunes so that's just a plain 7 extra food. We're running at a 2-food deficit right now so it would be very welcome. The lesser hit to law is also good.

Also, since I live in a town with a Trappist monastery (La Trappe) I am partial to getting them up and running ASAP.
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>>3530857
>>3531090
Oh also, Thorne dislikes us and Chyttering is impartial, so I'd say we buddy up to Chyterring and definitely take II.
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>>3530857
>Trappist monks
They got the trap house?
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>>3530857

Let's go for the first option. Option 1 might raise food costs but it also raises food, won't be half as much of a problem to maintain order in, and monks making mead to get our own vintages sounds wonderful. Plus, open fields and rolling plains sounds like prime horse grazing land, and our house history is built on our herds.
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So for xp investment: how do you guys feel about +1 Ability in Persuade and +1 Specialty in bows? We need the Persuade to rebuild our relationships and trades due to the Hayfords hating us. But id also like a bit more of a boost to our archery.
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>>3531130
It's alright, but I'd go for Endurance + Convince
I like being tanky.
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>>3530857
Option I is better in my opinion, more food and easier to keep control of, remember we took part of the red bastard domain because he couldn't keep control of it.
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>>3531156
We get asked for different categories of Persuade pretty frequently, I don't think taking it as a specialty would help: we should take the Ability in Persuade and a specialty in something combat related. Maybe Stength or Notice if you guys dont want more bow.
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>>3531130
>>3531156
>>3531163
i just want to up our awareness, we need to notice shit before we can change it
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>>3531176
Also viable.
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30 xp to Persuade
10 xp to Notice
That sound acceptable to all?
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>>3531197
no
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>>3531163
Agreed also Chyttering would be taking2 by force, giving Lamewards another’s enemy and thus hopefully making our relationships with them better.
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>>3530856
>major timeskip post Redward
Sounds like those warships we gave Jon will be seeing some action.
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>>3530857
Domain 2 since Thorne dslikes us, and we can either back Chyttering against Langward to cripple their house and gain an ally.

But we should also look at not only what these houses think of us but what Thorne and Chyttering's disposition towards Redward is.
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>>3530857
reading through this again, while I still strongly favor option 1, we would be remiss if we didnt play the thornes and chytterings against each other to secure the best trade deals possible for not pressing a claim to the territory they want.
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>>3531598

I'm not sure about that, it leans heavily into the 'sellsword playing at lord' reputation we don't really want sticking on us. And Thornes are already hostile to us, anyway; but I'd be up for meeting with the Chytterings to reassure them that we simply have no plans on pressing claims to the land they're after. Why, any fool can see that land is rightfully theirs! And if the conversation just happens to drift into matters of trade or co-operation, more the better for us.
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>>3531630
This
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>>3530857
option 1 is better in every way
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>>3531630
playing factions against each other isnt sellsword behavior, its just playing the game.

Sellsword behavior is stuff that highlights Brynden's lack of lordly upbringing.

murdering Langward with his own sword, not showing rival lords a certain level of respect.

Lordship is sort of like this big club of rich dudes where everyone for the most part knows everyone else and how to act.

You can get away with murder as long as you play to expectations of nobility.

That having been said I hold zero hope for negotiations with thorne.
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>>3530428
You too, Anon.

>>3530856
>good to see you again
If you write it they will come. I was pleasantly surprised to see a thread up, only visit /qst/ maybe a couple of times a year just to see how it's doing - but i've always got time for our boy.

>Even the best narrow sea/valyrian lord is a poor choice and the rest are outright bad options
I know, but we'll never improve relations if we don't even try.

>>3530857
Got a slight preference for taking the second option. If i'm remembering right the woods are the home and source of the bandits, so if we take it and straighten the area out, our neighbours will thank us... If they aren't arseholes.

Considering our neighbours I won't hold my breath but it was the Princewood we actually fought over. Who fights over a forest and then doesn't take it?
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>>3531392
>Domain 2 since Thorne dslikes us,
Why? Us letting the thorne's get more land is not going to let them like us more. Worse it'll weaken us even as it get them in better position to hurt us.


>>3532035
>so if we take it and straighten the area out, our neighbours will thank us... If they aren't arseholes.

No. We took the land, we're doing our job. Maybe if the crown dumped a hot mess in our lap they'd tahnk us, but given we'd be taking from the chyttering plans while enabling the family who dislikes us? we'd get nada.

>Who fights over a forest and then doesn't take it?
WE have a portion of said forest already, they stuff we did fight over. Issue is taking more means even MORE instability and less food production for us. We'd be dealing with real insurgent issue as the people in 2 are langward loyalists, and that will make it so we gotta put em down.,
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>>3532045
>We'd be dealing with real insurgent issue
Well, yeah - this is the point. We'd be stepping up and dealing with the issue. I'm not the biggest fan of Jon Arryn but he wants things to be stable for his pet stag, and as much as I hate aligning ourslves with someone whose honor stinks to high heaven he's one of the only figures in Robert's court willing to stand in our corner against Cersei. I think it's what he would want.

And I don't disagree on the Thorne issue. Leaving them alone to strengthen their position isn't great while they still carry a grudge. That's why I only have a slight preference.
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>>3532093
>We'd be stepping up and dealing with the issue.
The bandits, who we've mostly killed, are the minor issue. The major one is the people in the land all gunning for us and wanting to make the entire domain as bad as the princewood was before Redfucker lost it. We do not have an issue now, we take it? we'll rapidly get one.


Honestly politically domain 1 is the best bet, deprives an likely enemy of land, gives a neutral party a bite of the apple while also likely distracting a known enemy. Alliances built on "fuck those lameward assholes in particular" while not ideal, are better than nothing. We could at least get trade going which would be very helpful.
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>>3532110
If we only had to worry about our local rivals amongst the Crownlander lords, if royal politics weren't involved, I would agree with you. I'd be one hundred percent on board.

A member of the Kingsguard who is also coincidentally the Queen's brother is currently crashing on our couch, though.

If we don't take the rest of the Princewood, the Chytterings will take it by force. That means there'll be another war in the king's own back yard, and we could have prevented it. The Thornes would press a claim, sure, but that's a legal challenge - and them going to the crown to have their dispute adjudicated actually adds legitimacy to the new regime. That's valuable political capital that we'd be throwing away to spite the Thornes and get a little bit more food.
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>>3532143
The chytterings taking it by force is good for us though, it keeps the crown's eyes off us and on the langwards. It also gives the langwards a new enemy to focus on.


The Thornes are not going to try and press us after we skullfucked a rival house. They know their case is not THAT good or else they'd have pressed it already, and the crown won't suddenly renege on their gift because it'd make them look bad.

No one is going to blame us for addressing our needs first and not stopping two neighbors one of whom we rabidly dislike from fighting when it's literally not our fault. It's the crown's. You're insisting that we have to be the janitors for the entire fucking crownlands when that is massively presumptuous and impossible for us to actually manage.
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>>3532093
house chyttering willdeal with banditry and Langward loyalists as part and parcel to their taking the land. especially since they will be using force to aquire it.

At the same time we can leverage our decision not to take that domain for a favorable trade deal with chyttering.

in addition, we can use the extra population and food production to field more military power which will be crucial in the next half year or so.

We also have to decide hiw to deal with the 800 "bandits" Ser Langwatd is likeky leading. My advice has been stated elsewhere, but I WANT Langward to bed back down with Royce to their inevitable doom.

Ride unto the sunset wesley. Ride.
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>>3532168
Those bandits are going to likely attack once Langward's fate is known. Assuming Jaime does not have standing orders we should fucking wipe them, and hamstring langward for the next few years to come. break their backs and let them try to recover while we eat redward alive then turn around and dare them to try and fucking do something. Given the langwards were in bed with Royce before and eventually fell out, I doubt they'll back him so readily when we just got done with them. They'll focus on licking wounds and trying to not get ripped apart, and maybe try and remove the langely presumptive head too, given he fucked them over badly. Unless the queen pumps some major juice into them again they're likely not going to try and test house Malroy again until the shit with the five kings war happens.


Hell we were supposed to be in much much worse straits than this until we got a freaking Glory for the tourney and Dontos making blunt a bitch.
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>>3532143
>If we don't take the rest of the Princewood, the Chytterings will take it by force.
Langward's part of the Princewood not ours, letting the Chytterings take it works for us because it will be another House hunting bandits in the woods and weakening Langward further. We could even work an alliance with them on mutual beneficial grounds of cleaning up the Princewood of bandits. If we take the plains and the legal matters that come with it we can lean on the goodwill and favors will we have built with Lord Arryn and Varys.
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>>3530857
Deer and their kin have rather thin fur, except in the far north, making trade for their fur almost non existent. Their hides do have uses in leather and other things though.

For real profitable furs it'd be things like martin, muskrat, beaver, otter etc. Mustelids and Rodents
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>>3532290
In the crown lands I'd expect hare or foxes
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>>3532290
Yeah, you use deer for there leather not there fur
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>>3532324
right, I forgot about foxes. I imagine otters and beavers being around too.
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>>3532189
hamstring them until years later?

fuck that. show them mercy now so we look like the more noble lord. Chytterring isnt our ally so weve no obligation to make things easy on them.

A surrender for lenient terms makes a huge amount of sense for them right now with their home in such disarray.

besides defending their remaining land will take most of their time anyway. Doubly true if we force their disarming. Triply true since we are also taking a huge chunk of food production. not that they know that.

Langward will be in possession of an army of 800 with no arms and armor that he cant feed. With Chyttering breathing down his neck he will need help and allies

the one thing he can use to gain such is mutual hatred of Brynden Malroy seeing as he would never sell godscrown.

Thus houses that hate us will ally themselves to his cause, probably bolstered by promises of support from the queen.

Royce is chief amongst those by far, and its well known.

well you get the idea
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>>3532345
If you had not noticed Royce's star is falling, and falling hard. So are the langwards. Barring the Blounts his father used up most if not all his allies in the trial of the seven. Furthermroe if we don't break them they're going to be an ever present dagger at our back. I'd rather shatter it and save the true destruction for the redfucker than try and set up a "perfect wipe"
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>>3531197
No fuck you that is a shitty waste of our xp
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>>3532045

I think you're a little confused; Option one is 'Domain 2' and Option two is 'Domain 3'. You're both arguing for seizing the land the Thornes want, but one of you's calling it by the Option and the other's calling it by the domain we take.
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>>3532549
Yeah the numbers were highly confusing and it took me a while to figure that out myself.
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>>3531197

Blow me.
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>>3532761
We could use a bit more notice. If we're to find your tiny dick
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>>3533320

Just use a microscope. It's cheaper.
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I appear to have developed severe separation anxiety whenever dad spends more than a few hours away. I'm scared he'll go out for cigarettes again and never come back.
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Saw this in the catalog a few days back and did an archive binge.... Wow this is an amazing quest, probably the best one I have read sofar.
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>>3535125
If you want more, Dad ran another quest at one point. Searching the archives for "Grallner" should do it.
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>>3534339
And don't let him forget it.
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>>3535129
I currently have finals so i really should not but dads stuff is just too good.... I will definitely check it out though when i am free
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>>3535129
Is it just me liking the Grallner quest more? It was more subdued, grounded, but still the Father's quest.
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>>3537028
I'm not sure which one I like better. I really liked the Faith ranks thing in Grallner though, Dontos should go for Proctor if he can
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>>3530857
I wonder, if we take domain I, could se persuade Bobby D to give us food un exchange for a few barrels of that excellent brew when the monks come back? Sounds like a Robert thing to do honestly. Just talk to him about the beer and he will gladly give us a hand if the bitch of his wife isnt around
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>>3537028
>>3537061
I personally much prefer Malroy, I love Malroy more than anything but had trouble getting into Grallner despite the synopsis being something I really liked the sound of.
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>>3537141
>Going to the Usurper with a begging bowl
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>>3537346
We may as well ask if he wants to fuck Obella while we are at it.
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>>3537351
Wouldn't worry about it. He probably already has.
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>>3537354
Ahh. So Targfag was actually Giselle the whole time!
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>>3537358
If you were Doran, who would you target first with your femme fatale superspy - the new King, who happens to be a notorious womaniser, or some unknown sellsword who spent the last decade or so in Essos?

I'm just saying.
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>>3537379
The king also has a massive hateboner for Targaryens and isn’t fond of adorning because of the war. Also Obella is good but not that good, coupled with how bobbby B is a pump and dump
Kinda dude this limiting how effective she’d be? I’d go with a target she could feasibly sink her claws into and hold. There is such a thing as aiming to high.
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>>3537392
Dorne *
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>>3537141
>>3537346
>>3537351
>not wanting to exploit the king's well known love of drinking.
>not realizing that trappist beers are some of the best.

look, I get that the targs were good to house Malroy, and that Royce profited from the houses downfall when he threw in with Robert.

But the targareans. are. dead.

or in exile. But mostly dead. Robert is the rightful king. And thats a fact that we have to deal with. No amount of loyalty is going to ressurect the dead.

If we can trade mead in kings landing because the king likes it, then you better believe its the correct choice.

Even now with all of Brynden's work house Malroy sits on a knifes edge between success and extinction. The queen dislikes us because we unwisely mouthed off, lets not add Robert's dislike on top of that.

He has it within his power to do a great deal to help our house. Or hinder it.

I am not saying we should go like beggars, I am saying we need to not antagonize him.
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>>3539238
This of course goes doubly true if we are loyal still to the targs.

a man who is mistrusted by robert is less useful than one whose meads grace his feasts and whose deeds are thought well of.
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>>3539238
>>3539241
Honestly it's probably best to go for our trade connections in the Claw and the Reach for that. King's Landing is a viper's den and while the Hand and the Spider like us, the Queen does not, and I am willing to be that Little finger is slightly annoyed at us getting out from under his tax crippling scheme so easily. Which makes him look bad.

Furthermore Bobby B is going to be leery of our silver hair. While we could play up our sell sword rep to make him like us more, that's in of itself double edged.
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>>3539238
>>3539241
>>3539253

First off it's a bit premature to be counting our chickens before we've even obtained the land or met the monks. Second off selling beer to King's Landing really isn't a big enough deal to warrant that sort of attention: We live right next door to KL, there should be carts bringing goods to KL to sell on the open market regardless. I don't think it's a big deal. A single domain's worth of breweries doesn't make a blip on the radar.
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>>3539326
I tend to agree. I was assuming this was a HUEG trade deal thing, as approaching Robert for less is folly.
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>>3539238
>No amount of loyalty is going to ressurect the dead.
Not with that attitude!
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>>3539505

My attitude is basically that Bobby B is the king. Rightful or not rightful doesn't really enter into the picture, he's on the Throne for now. King's Landing is right next door to us, we don't have the luxury of distance that Dorne does. The moment that fAegon lands on Westeros soil that equation will change though, as he'll be a Targ with a pulse, an army, and actually in westeros.
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>>3539326
true, but its a foot in the door.

Arryn is amiable to us, Varys wants us to hide our valyrian roots (pun intended, and a good idea), the queen is very mich against us, but littlefinger and Robert are undecided.

of the two, whom would you rather have a good relation with?

I realize its premature, but thinking ahead is useful. If we can buy good will with our most important neighbor its worth the cost of some mead and hair dye.

Especially if it lays positive groundwork for the downfall of Redward. Remember one of Varys primary concerns was that the crown would simply award Royce lands to some other loyal knight. And you can bet your last dragon Cersei has a list of suitable candidates.

It wouldnt do to destroy Royce only to have to deal with some other spiteful lannister lackey.

Fortunately, Robert is a man of predictable passions. Superior quality mead, a hunt in the king's forest, some stories about whores, a bottle of perfume for his wife and a second bottle for the mistress of the moment so she wont suspect too much (not that cersei would ever wear a scent that came from Robert, but perhaps this is early enough that she isnt totally disillusioned)

The point is, Brynden is very much like Robert. Courageous and revenge minded in equal measure. We can, and should use that to our advantage.
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Im rereading the old threads and need someone to appreciate this foreshadowing in thread XLIX.

>“A gift for a fine lady of the Dornish entourage?” the Braavosi man asks in his thick accent when you pick up a tiny cage with a black scorpion in it. Well three actually, though one was dead, another missing a few legs and the last still prowling around the cage, a clutch of eggs upon her back.

>You pause and scratch at the your goatee, “No, for one back home. How much?”

>“Hmmm for you my Lord, five gold dragons a piece.”

>“One is dead. The other looks halfway to it. Seven and a handful of silver.”

Three scorpions like the qorgyle sigil. One dead, Quellon. One missing legs, Quentyn with his broken leg. One with a clutch of eggs upon her back, Obella??? Dad you son of a bitch.
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>>3543160
That is sickening. And now I'm going to have to scrutinize every single line dad ever types now
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>>3543160
Good god
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>>3543160
Well shit.
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>>3543160
What the actual fuk. It's nice to know we managed to knock up Obella though.
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>>3543538
By the seven I hope it's a boy. If we had chosen Giselle she would have given us a son. Remember boy-o's. Dornish women are shit, just like their wine.
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>>3544186
But we wouldnt have mindblowing rope acrobatic sex
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>>3544200
But think of the mind blowing sex with a girl raised in the religious Catholic environment like the vale.

Plus if Grover Grafton had fought with us, now we would have control over the knightly Graftons of Gulltown. Perhaps we could have put victus there.

Dont worry Giselle, I havent forgotten you...Father never did you justice
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>>3544264
>tfw no Northern/Riverlander/Iron Islander lordling to make Giselle happy.
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>>3548774
She is stuck with that Sisterman Knight and i have never heard anything good about the Sistermen
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>>3539238
listen, bobby B is a good guy, and its worth trying to get along with him
but he's not the rightful king
there is a house with a red door and one day it will open to give us vengence, justice fire and blood
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>>3539238
>>3539572
>>3549372
It mostly depends on what the monks actually make in game terms. Yes, they are based off Trappists who make generally very well-liked beers but there is probably hundreds of abbey beers just in Belgium alone, and not all of them are good. Also, our monks would make mead, not beer, which makes a comparison imperfect right away.

If they make the highest tier of mead (extraordinary, isn't it?) then it'll obviously be a valuable trade good and one which Bobby would probably enjoy, even though we will only make small quantities.
More likely is they'd make Superior (or whatever the tier below the top one is called) Mead, which is still good but would probably not be impressive enough to truly get us a foot in the door, so to speak. If that is the case, it will be heavily marketing dependent how well the sales go and if Bobby is interested in it.
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>>3549478
what we really should have done is invited bobby b directly to the wedding tournament
he did say first time we met that he really missed being in battle regalia
and we know jon barely talked him out of taking the field here directly
the problem i see is the best way to get on bobby Bs good side is too appeal to those traits that jon tries to control and thus appealing to Bobby B's booze bitches and battle bias would almost certainly also result in lose of favor with jon
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>>3549527
> appealing to Bobby B's booze bitches and battle bias would almost certainly also result in lose of favor with jon

Not to mention that anons has been doing their best to curb those traits in Brynden.
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>>3549527
>>3549536
I really don't think we should play up the boozyness that much. It should be primarily a luxury item, like a good wine. Of course, that doesn't mean Bobby can't get shitfaced off it, but that should not be the primary focus.
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>>3549576
I agree
honestly I don't care that much vis a vi beer vs furs both require investment both chunks of land seem good
I think I'd rather take option I
mainly because if we leave option II than chyttering will try and take it by force
which will mean that Langward will be even futher weakened in a way that they can't even blame us for
if they and chyttering get into a bitter brush conflict over the land then its the ideal outcome
we stronger our enemy weaker and our rivals weakened trying to take from our enemy and all that fighting will likely make the bandit problem in the region even worse
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>>3543160
I had almost forgotten I had done that until I did my big reread. Glad someone was able to appreciate that a year and a half later.

>>3544186
>By the seven I hope it's a boy.
That reminds me I should do some rolling.

Anyway, off from work today and working on setting up for the next thread. I'll be around if anyone has questions, thoughts, concerns, etc.
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>>3549952
So how pissed is the Celtigar still ?

What do you think of House Reynold and Mervyn.

What do you think about the idea people are playing around with the fact that Mervyn was in charge of the sacking of Steadhold ?
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>>3549952
Do you think Brynden is gonna live long enough to see Young Griff or Dany?
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>>3549969
>So how pissed is the Celtigar still ?
Unlikely to ever not be. His daughter and son having gone missing/kidnapped certainly has helped either.

>What do you think of House Reynold and Mervyn.
Love it. Great quest and great character. Here's to hoping that Mervyn wins the Melee.

>What do you think about the idea people are playing around with the fact that Mervyn was in charge of the sacking of Steadhold ?
It's a fun idea. But really any number of characters could have. I don't think I ever said.

>>3550106
Suppose it depends. If he outlives every single thing in game. Then Bobby B's Big Island Getaway. Then the WotFKs. Then I don't see why he wouldn't be around long enough to see either or both of them. I know Dontos is sure as hell going to be trying to.

>>3531598
I'd certainly say that's an option. Brynden is very much in a position of power at a local level here and playing the game is something, that honest to god, for the first time I'd say he could get away with it. People like to say that I'm making things too difficult and even when we win we've a lot less clout and power than originally thought but then ideas like this come and it should be realized that Brynden has a ton of power to be used. Between his Seven ordained claims, to Obella's spies, to his military might and to a lesser degree his economic might given Steadhold's location.

The Thornes and Chytterings both have their eyes on the prizes already, if you want to open up the negotiation table to try to wrangle something out of them for leaving their respective areas alone you certainly can. Granted they'll be a bit hesitant too, but that's what a sellswords silver tongue is good for. And so long as it is done in a manner that is considered Lordly, hell, no one will really care, just see it as Brynden being a cunning Lord.

So yeah, I'll definitely let it be brought up during House Fortunes. Saul will have sent a letter that Benjin will tell you about as he's hard at work at building you a case and he'll offer recommendations for your demands once all is said and done. Meanwhile, Benjin will ask if there's anyone you'd like to contact, specifically for trade, but that will give you the option to try either the Chytterings, Thornes, or both to a potential negotiation.

Good shit. Like it a lot.
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>>3550126
Will the chances of Obella dying on her mission due to her unplanned pregnancy be a thing ?
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>>3550126
Did Jamie hear about that wise crack we made to get the King laughing?
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>>3537061
I hadn't thought about it, but I'm 100% going to do that now that Dontos is effectively the Lord-Protector of Blacksaithe. He should be a Proctor of the Faith within a few months.

I don't think I'll ever have Brynden bother with those, because despite him being a believer in the Seven and having rebuilt the Sept he himself isn't particularly interested in everything else that involves itself in becoming one, such as paying tithe to the Faith.

That and he's about to do something to the current High Septon that will probably not go over crazy well.

>>3550206
Nah I wouldn't do that. It'd be incredibly unfair of me. Besides it isn't that sort of mission, very low key affair. She's just not going to be thrilled about it happening because she didn't plan it and she hates when her plans go awry. Even if it was because of her own emotions.

>>3550288
I can't quite recall what that was. Can you remind me? But at a guess, yeah probably.
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>>3550384
>I don't think I'll ever have Brynden bother with those
I agree. I don't think someone who keeps his bastard around should be an example to the Faithful anyway.
I'm glad you agree that Dontos should (want to) become one, though.
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>>3550384
Any chance you could have Brynden have a dream/nightmare about his family and they share their thoughts about he has done what kind of man he has become as if they were alive ?

I would really like to see that explored.
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>>3550384
The whole thing that caused the queen to increase our debt and then we said nah senpai you ain't got the right, which lead to our uncle making blount his btich?
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>>3550450
The one where she accused of some scheme and we retorted that the only way we could do that is by using and magic and then jested with "Are we going to believe in White Walkers and Grumpkins as well?" ?
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>>3550465
nah the one where we backhandedly mentioned it'd not be the first time someone got stabbed in the back in front of the throbne, it was first thread.
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>>3550384
Any chance we could play as Obella during her mission?
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>>3532290
>>3532324
Ah yes, thank you for the corrects. I'd probably go hares? Maybe foxes.

I actually have a concept for a Crackclaw Point House whose main business is beaver fur set during the Third Blackfyre Rebellion. They're actually called House Alder, and I low-key really want to run that someday but I'll shelve that until I get this anywhere even close to finished. They're definitely going to be included here though.

>>3549478
Actually there are only fourteen trappist abbeys around the world, a good deal in Belgium. I was recently turned on to them by a good friend who got some beer from the American abbey, St. Joseph's Abbey's Spencer Brewery, my god is it good. I've been on a whirlwind of trying them ever since and learning more about them, really fascinating stuff. That being said there are certainly a number of breweries that replicate the styles and produce "trappist styled" brews, but aren't actually abbey produced ones.

That being said, yeah these monks would be loosely based on them, obviously only producing mead. Though since you have the Food Agriculture holdings you could just as easily put some money into the Alcohol Distillery improvement and they'd start producing beer as well. Brown Brother Andreas is a pretty chill dude who just wants to rebuild his abbey and brew alcoholic beverages in the name of the Seven. As all good men should. It'll honestly frustrate Septon Tytos to no ends if Brynden ends up liking him more and is more willing to discuss matters of the Faith with him over a pint or two.

Any as for the quality of the goods. So I sort of figured that would come up and we'd have a discussion about it at House Fortunes but I can give the light talk about it here.

So when it comes to holdings that produce Superior Goods they will always produce based on a 1 to 1 ratio of their respective Wealth Cost to Unit (ex. Rare Blood Line cost 5 wealth, each month you receive 5 Superior Valyrian Gold Coursers). Similarly if you choose to use the mead as a means to feed your people it will be considered Food and based upon the same ratio of 1:1 but instead will go into your monthly food tally, rather than your unique item inventory tally. However, you can also change these over to produce Extraordinary goods, which you will receive significantly less of but will be of a higher quality, more influential in their trade, and worth more to the right people at a 5:1 ratio (ex. Rare Blood Line cost 5 wealth, each month you receive 1 Extraordinary Valyrian Gold Coursers).
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So the conservation when you gain certain holdings such as that will be what you want to focus your production on. Food for your people/trade, bulk Superior Units for more versatile trade but also on the more "mundane" side, or specialty Extraordinary Units for more influential and higher end trading but with a smaller market and a potential demand higher than your supply. A very similar conversation could be had about your current Courser production and the Tyrells will have some thoughts on it as well when Willas and Olymer show up. So that's food for thought.

>>3550387
You ain't wrong. Christ the Faith would be mad as fuck about Victus being such a prominent member of Brynden's Household, and that's not even mentioning him landing Mason Flowers. Besides the fact I just like that as a more Grallner specific game mechanic. It was fun over there. Over here Brynden would be over it so fast.

>>3550392
I'll keep the idea in the bank. I don't know if I ever will or not as it might not really lead to anywhere. We'll see after the next thread and where we go with a certain decision.

>>3550450
>>3550474
Oh. Yeah of fucking course he has. Why the hell wouldn't he had, especially after Cersei made such an ordeal out of it.

>>3550548
Actually no. As the contents of the spy mission isn't something that Brynden is allowed to be privy too. A Prince Doran Martell order. It'll be important later.
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>>3550563
>fourteen trappist abbeys
I know, but abbey beers themselves aren't rare at all. At least not around here. I'm not sure whether it's actually a protected term though, and it's probably enough to be brewed on the grounds of a former abbey to call yourself an abbey beer. If you can find La Trappe Isid'or in America you should try it, it's my favourite of the trappists near me!
As for the mead, I myself really like the idea of having extraorinary mead. Just for fluff reasons, though.
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>>3550563
>>3550565

Ok I'm really lost as to how food/courser/ect production actually works and what their values are. This is a homebrew system after all that isn't written anywhere I can find after all. So 5 Common X is worth 1 Superior X and 5 Superior is worth one Extrodinary, both in production and monetary value, yes? And the default production for a holding is N items per month where N is the Wealth price of the holding?

What value do common/superior/extrordinary coursers/food/ect have in terms of gold dragons?
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>>3550691
I'm incredibly sorry and understand how confusion it is. And you are absolutely correct in what you've figured there. This is all something that I plan to go over at length during the next thread as we will be doing House Fortunes and it will be a major talking point. I still need to add some of said information, probably a primer of some sort to this document:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zAcWLAiRBnJFyFkcoNrL3xaDKu6uIlsqZmp1_KOLwUo/edit?usp=sharing

To explain what you've basically figured out in more detail and in clearer cut figures.

That being said, the second part of your post:
>What value do common/superior/extrordinary coursers/food/ect have in terms of gold dragons?
Will also be something I'll be going over because you'll be able to trade your raw goods in for Wealth roll bonuses. In short:

>40 Common Goods&Food / 20 Superior Goods / 10 Extraordinary Goods = 1 Wealth (~200 gold dragons)

Yeah obviously some items are probably worth more than others but it terms of creating a baseline and to avoid further confusion that is what I'm going with. I hope that helps some. And don't worry we're going to have a nice long Q&A section during House Fortunes so everyone can get their heads around it, hopefully.

>>3550575
I'd believe you are correct in saying so. I assume you are Belgian, or at least staying there, so I'll defer to your knowledge on the subject. Though I do believe a specific sort of branding on the trappist term is around, I'm not sure of how protected it is. From what I understand its sort of up in the air. That being said I've had the aforementioned Spencer Brewery and Bieres de Chimay. As well as Brouwerij St. Bernardus, but I believe their stuff is based on the trappist recipes but not made specifically in an abbey. It's all very interesting stuff really but I'll definitely be on the look out for your recommendation, thank you.
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If Obella is so worried about getting pregnant when sge doesn't want to. She should just learn to take it in the bum
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>>3550720
I was thinking about telling Dontos to try make a Malroy boy with Lady Chelsted, in case Brynden only manages to make girls
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>>3550755
No that's not gonna happen dude. The whole point of the Dontos-Chelsted marraige is that it WOULDNT be consummated. Lady Chelsted doesn't want more kids, she just wants a strong figure to act as pseudo-regent until her kids come of age- she aint interested in starting a succession dispute between half-brothers. Also we're gonna have at least 5 kids. We'll be fine on producing an heir.
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>>3550866
Would the child have a claim ? I mean Lady Chelsted must have married into the Chelsted family, right ?
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>>3550720
So is food just used as an extra trade good or does it have to be enough to cover our population? Will our smallfolk starve if we sell off too much of our food or are the smallfolk mostly self sufficient?
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>>3550745
How could you imply Obella would be so lewd. Truly a disgusting and shameful act anon.

>>3550755
Hahahaha Good luck with that.

>>3550866
Is correct in how that whole thing went down. Rodner isn't exactly safe in his position as is and isn't exactly 'lordly' material. So Dontos, and by extension House Malroy, are there to keep things in line and act as a bulwark against those that might try to usurp his Lordship.

>>3550923
Alexes Chelsted is a Chelsted by birth, a first cousin to Lord Qarlton Chelsted. She was Raymun's elder sister. Its allowed her a lot of consolidated power, thankfully. And the woman is nothing if not cunning and intelligent in her wielding of it.

>>3550983
You need Food to cover both your Population and Power. Keeping your smallfolk fed and being able to feed an army are both important. And yes they will starve if you sell off too much of it, currently you're at a monthly -2 Food deficit with only 18 in your Inventory/Stockpile, so 9 months worth of it before you have issues.

Again we'll go over in House Fortunes what you need to do about that to fix it. As there are a variety of options from trade, to purchasing new holdings, to demanding it as reparations.
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>>3551019
>How could you imply Obella would be so lewd

To be fair. She is Dornish.

Also no House Reynold today. That makes me sad. Father. Make a quick Victus' adventures quest!
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>>3551019
I bet Giselle would take it in the bum
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>>3551176
FUCK OF GISELLE POSTERS REEEEEE
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>pic related is what passes for beauty in dorne...
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>>3551280
She was hot in season 4. Or did oberyn die in 3, shit I can't even remember
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>>3551243
>pic related is considered a bog standard 5/10 in the vale

Obella a shit
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>>3551330
Much like you then anon. A piece of shit not fit to even fertilize soil.
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The Obella/Giselle shit posting never gets old to me. I'm sorry I never did you justice Giselle, it is my greatest regret in this quest.

Also Obella would totally do anal, I was joking. I think I even implied it once when she was trying to avoid getting pregnant.

Anyway! Last update for the night. I've been mapping out the House Fortunes we'll be doing and fuck me it is a dozy. One of the sections will be about the reparations. Saul will have sent a letter about it and is basically asking, here are you options, let me know what you want and I'll build the case for you to make when the "bandits" are done. Catch them on the backfoot as soon as Brynden gets done with the warring. Here is a link to document:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FmgoY7_y8J_Bzv6mdXkno-JcvksKxK8eBDQ_REP2BeQ/edit?usp=sharing

This is in broad strokes mostly, but detailed enough everyone should be able to understand how this is going down. In game it'll be presented in character and some will offer their opinions on the matter. Brynden will have to roll for these but most are relatively attainable given his bonuses and current dice pools coupled with best of three. Again we'll do some Q&A during the game and figure out anything people are confused by. If there are custom demands people want to make I'll see if they fit into anything I already have or make up a new one if it has the support and come up with an appropriate DC. I'll also field questions throughout the week leading up to the quest.
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>>3551386

Weirdly I don't think Brynden would be the kind of guy to go for anal himself. He'd probably take the Jon "So you didn't know where to put it" Snow approach regarding God's Loophole.
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>>3551426
Guy was confused when Obella pulled herself out before he could find release
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>>3551386
So looking at the trials...
Since we get four actions we really should just give Godscrown freely. Here's why, that -6 dc is a massive godsend so is the positive rep boost.

We can easily get a bite at
Lands
Wealth
That tasty Title
and a ward of our choice.
and use that -6 to make it a lot more likely to get the one we want far more easily.
Landon would be a good bet. I am almost willing to bet that Lyonel will remove Lucos for us, especially since the kid knows he Lyonel sold out the family to us and the Crown.
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>>3551386

I'm confused about something:

Apiary(5 Wealth) means that it should produce 5 S. Mead per month OR 10 Food, right? Since Food is a common resource? But doesn't Available domain give an x2 modifier to Food production (Homebrew Holdings sheet p15)? For a total of 20 Food?
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>>3551435
I think ransoming it or giving it freely would both be in-character for Brynden. We were wroth beyond belief at fucking Langward for killing Wesley and our anger response tends to involve shouts of "ILL RAPE HIM TO DEATH AND TAKE EVERYTHING HE EVER LOVED AS TROPHIES" so it makes perfect sense to take Godscrown from Linden and kill him with it, but once we reach Steadhold and have a moment to cool down surrounded by home we don't exactly have a fetish for rare swords. I'd lean towards ransom personally unless the son asked for it in a convincing manner that showed he knew what a shit his dad was (which wont happen) but either is fine.
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>>3551441
Ransom would be a good idea, but
it gives a lesser dc reduction in exchange for a new item grab slot.

Assuming we're not allowed to double up, the only thing we could do it would be to grab another ward, or try to grab the sword which is a fool's errand imo.
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Will we be allowed to spend our banked xp before the negotiation? We could really use that 5th die of Persuasion here.

Oh man this Title is such a trap option but it's so tasty and I want it so badly. I want to fellate our ego with that Lord Marshal title so bad.
Oh shit we can spend that extra influence gain that the Title gives us on MORE CHILDREN. It's 100% because the ego boost will make us randy isn't it?
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>>3551437
No. Apiary only produces 5 Food (1:1 Wealth:Resource), all base Estate Wealth Holdings produce Common goods/food and that's it. No bonuses, always that ratio. I might have misunderstood what was asked earlier but that has always been the intent. Sorry for the confusion.

Yes Available Food Domain does add x2 modifier, so that will make it 10 Food.

Superior, Extraordinary only come into play with improved holdings and even then Superior is produced at a 1:1 ratio as before and Extraordinary is produced at a 5:1 ratio. So Apiary>Mead Distillery produces 5 S. Mead or 1 E. Mead, dependent upon choice.
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>>3551443
Oh crap you're right, the only slot we're allowed to double up on is Wards anyway I think if I read this right: We should give it back freely.
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>>3551447

Ooooh the Mead Distillery isn't actually built yet. I misunderstood what an Apiary was.

So the Langward Domain II if I understand right would be
>10 Food OR 5 Common Mead
And if we build a Mead Distillery it would be
>10 Food OR 5 Common Mead PLUS
>5 S Mead OR 1 E. Mead
And that's the extent of it?
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>>3551443
Oh no you can double up on the wealth and wards demands. Not to mention I've given you guys free reign to come with other demands as well.

>>3551457
Yes, you got it down.

Other than sorta the Common Mead part, that'd probably just be whatever fluff you guys would wanted it to be Common Honey, Common Mead, etc. But I doubt that production would be desired over Food in an Available Domain. So, either way.

>>3551444
>Will we be allowed to spend our banked xp before the negotiation?
Yep that's going to be the first part of the thread in fact. We'll see how that goes as for votes.

>Oh man this Title is such a trap option but it's so tasty and I want it so badly.
It really truly is. I wrote it purposefully like that. Because we all know what it is really for.
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>>3551448
my thoughts exactly.

Ransom would only be for if we want both the daughter and second son.


the son is the one we want, but should he fall in the field of battle? we should be able to nab the daughter easily enough. Given I do not expect Lucos to live long with Langley gunning for him, our wards will be the needed power play to take the lands from the Langleys later.

We set this up right? We can have house Langward AND Redward in our hands before the WotFK. This would make us a major power in the Crownland, given the lands we hold and our proximity to king's landing, as well as control of the major river in the crownlands. Moreover between Steadhold and Blackscaithe's domains we effectively cut off the Westerlands approach into the City.

Even if Lucos somehow survives, we're still siting pretty as long as we're vigilant.
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>>3551476
I'm pretty sure Dad picks the gender of the kid regardless if we pay for male or female.
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>>3551471
Sorry for all the spam, dad.
>Oh no you can double up on the wealth and wards demands. Not to mention I've given you guys free reign to come with other demands as well.
Sounds sweet! Though I find it strange that the Recipe Book is literally just game theoretically worse in every way than just hard cash. If it's a 1-use 1 Wealth discount to building a holding when we can just take an extra 200 dragons instead I don't see any reason to ever take it.

>Because we all know what it is really for.
Five kids, why that's so many, why would you make your wife have six kids? I guess we need to get to work siring our seventh kid if we ever want to make our own baseball team with nine kids.

>>3551476
I do like the idea proposed earlier in the thread of taking Cersei and having her "rescued" by a concerned citizen in order to get a spy placed in our enemies court. It would be nice to get the Cersei ward for trading back in as a spy cell plus the second son for its actual purpose as a ward.

>>3551479
Dad rolls for the gender and charges us appropriately
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>>3551471
If we can go wealth twice? That’d be great.


How badly did our actions in the Reach hurt us though? Because that rep boost is nothing to be snuffed at especially since we’ve made trade deals with the rulers of Highgarden.

>>3551479
Ok I was talking ransom not kids.
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>>3551471
What are the langwards famous for? Anything similar to our horses? Because if we can fuck then on that I’d enjoy it.
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>>3551482
>f it's a 1-use 1 Wealth discount to building a holding when we can just take an extra 200 dragons instead I don't see any reason to ever take it.

I... huh. Yeah Im not sure why I did it like that. I think I'll make it a -2 to make it seem worthwhile. Because that's dumb otherwise.

>>3551483
>How badly did our actions in the Reach hurt us though
Dontos will be sure to tell you. But it didn't exactly go down well, at all. The dornish didn't care. But the reachmen of chivalry and honor did not care for such a distasteful action. Honestly if it wasn't for Oberyn almost killing Willas that would be the most talked about thing coming from Highgarden. So yeah, the rep boast would help.

>>3551487
Nothing in particular. But you are essentially crippling their economy by taking either domain and another House taking the other. Mead is probably their most popular export. But for the most part they're a military power.

>>3551476
Man I didn't even include all of the Langly shenanigans Obella wants to get up to. It about to be chaos up there.
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>>3551483
It's basically a choice between the rep boost with the Reach or 10 Wealth. Honestly I think the rep boost with the Reach will be more important: We need them to provide us with cheap food and buy our horses. Reach Food Agriculture domains have a hecking x8 bonus, I'm certain once we're entrenched we could be getting a better rate for them than the usual Food:Wealth ratio considering just how much excess they have. Did you see how drool-worthy that turkey deal could have been when we got agressive? Fucking someone over that hard isn't going to be a good idea but I'm sure we could get some good Costco-tier discounts fair and square.
Also Dorne is going to stop returning peoples calls soon and we need to make up for using Oberyn's help at the Trial, as vital as it was.
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>>3551494
Wealth, Domain with the apiary, Ward and FOOD. Of course just give back the sword all nice like. Just show forgiveness and heat of the moment becuase we had lost our cousin.

Ward should be second son and if he dies the daughter. Who we should try to find the best possible marriage for and tell all the less desiarable candidates we should be gravy.

Lucos will seek to kill the firstborn no matter what that ambitious nutcake so if the second son dies in the battle we take the daughter under our wing and raise her and hopefully get her with a nice son of a friendly house or even better a HIGHER TIER house that will take her name to continue the Langwards.
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>>3551505
We don't need food stores my man, the Apiary domain puts us at a monthly surplus. (also man it would be nice for that domain to have an actual name that isn't Langward Domain II, like the Princewood/Violet Plains/Hemgrove have)
What we really should do is use those reparations to fund the rebuilding of the Town and Market/Docks using the Wealth conversion function.
My vote is for Title, Wealth(the mead book plus cash or Defense/Lands), Langward Domain II, and either the second son or moar wealth. Honestly seeing how much wealth we can get by just getting them to write us a check I don't think a spy cell is worth a full 10 wealth given up

Ne, dad, what happens when Winter hits? Do our lands stop producing food totally or just get a penalty? How much should we start stockpiling?
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>>3551505
Lucos is the firstborn.

Lyonel is the guy going after them.


But I agree with all that but food. given we can get food as part of the wealth, that title might be more worthwhile given we roll a 5d6+4 for status. dc 21 is pretty makeable and it's a kick in the nuts to the langshits.
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Are there any male Langwards who don't have names starting with L?
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>>3551482
>Five kids, why that's so many, why would you make your wife have six kids?
Heirs and spare mate, also she's got the hips for it.
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>>3551531
No. Frankly it was a minor miracle Cersei Langward didn't get an L-name too.
Pic related, the founder of House Langward during the Age of Heroes.
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>>3551539

Continuing, it's no wonder they're in bed with the Lannisters. I'm actually a little suprised they didn't name a child Lann Langward.
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>>3550720
From the Netherlands, but very close to the Belgian border. As I said, I live a few kilometers from the La Trappe trappist brewery.
I looked it up though and 'abbey beer' is not a protected term, so most of them are undoubtedly fakes.
The Trappist brand is very well-protected, as you said. St. Bernardus is, I believe, a copy of Westvleteren, which IS in fact a Trappist brewery. St. Bernardus is only an abbey beer in name, though.
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Having read through the demands document, keeping the sword is an obvious no-go.

When it comes to bartering or giving it back, I would advocate for giving it back. A -6 to one roll is a very good modifier and basically secures us the lands we want. Bartering us gives us a -3 which would also make getting the land much more likely, and give us an extra reward slot. Personally though, I don't think we need another reward slot.

This is what I would go for:
-Return sword (-6 to one DC)
-Lands (Option A, 18-6=DC 12) - In crunch terms probably the better piece of land anyway, plus it will advance Chyttering instead of Thorne. I also just want the monk mead.
-10 Wealth (80 food, 20 S. Mead, Recipe book, 3 S. weapons/armour/barding, 3 wealth. DC 15) - Food, upgrades and Wealth are always good and I only want 1 ward anyway.
-Title (DC 21) - this one is fairly unlikely to work but I am not willing to risk our land and use the -6 DC on this instead. The title would be nice to have but the lands are, to me, the better choice. Brynden would just not be the person to not try this anyway, which is why it is in here.
-Ward (Landon Langward, DC 18) - Getting the heir would be difficult and dishonorable, plus we can't really influence him anyway. The girl is, well, a girl. It's not like we can marry her to Victus to make him lord-protector of Langward, so I don't see the use very much. That leaves the Second Son. We can relate to him, he might come to not hate or even like us in a few years, and if his brother dies in battle somehow he would be a friendly neighbouring lord. I think this kid is the best choice.
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>>3551676
Honestly, I think I agree with this almost entirely, only I feel taking Cersei as a ward should not be overlooked.

An example from the books would be Catelyn Stark, who let's the Kingslayer go despite her son, and more importantly, KINGS orders. A mothers love is nothing to be underestimated. Plus she is most likely to change her opinion of us, which I believe can be framed as Brynden having a daughter of his own now, and seeing her as an innocent bystander in all of this, arrogance aside, and assuming we help her marry into a half decent marriage, we gain another ally.

Also, there is a chance Landon wont even survive the coming storm of battle.
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>>3551539
Speaking about Cersei I would like to find a way to buried the hatchet with the Queen. I am not saying to throw our lot completely with her but it be nice, if we could deal with the crown without having to watch our step for her.
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>>3551676
i'm with you except for the ward
the second son might die in the bandit battle
the first sons a non starter and the daughter isn't really useful to have around
lets just get more wealth instead
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>>3551811
>>3551751
>the second son might die in the bandit battle
True. We'll only be making the demands after the battle though, so we can cross that bridge when we get to it. If he survives, I would like to get him as a ward.
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>>3551676
Let's math hammer the stuff
we get a 4d + 0b on all wealth dcs, so that 12 is doable, that 15 is gonna be rougher.

Sword is dc24 on 4d+1b, in short we'd need a perfect roll and that's before anything else if we fuck up the talks. Needless to say getting it is horribly unlikely. Skip it.

Lands are dc 18 on 4d6+1b. It's going to eb a rough roll to get, but it's a lot more doable than the sword, if we slap a -3 or -6 on it? it's an ex grab.


The title. It may look like a trap option, and likely is in other ways, but it's actually pretty easy for us to grab. dc 21 on 5d6+4 because of our status. So in actuality it's a dc 17 on 5d6 which is pretty easy to get.

Wards have the same roll against, so grabbing any of them is going to be even easier than grabbing the title excepting the lord to be, whom we have no desire to grab. the second son has an effective dc of 14 on 5d6 and the daughter is even lower at an 11


So looking at our rolls, i'd hae to say we slap that dc lowerer on the lands or wealth, especially If we don't get persuade 5 or some more bargain or convince specialties.
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>>3551941
>we get a 4d + 0b
That is correct, except we get to spend our exp if I recall correctly. I believe we have enough for another die in persuasion, which would give us 5d+0b. I just think that EVEN with 5 dice it's better to completely take away the risk of not getting the land over making getting the title easier.

I'm not sure where you're pulling the other bonuses we could get from, as I have little clue about the ingame mechanics.
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>>3551977
If you look at the this post >>3551386
The docs link tell you the check were up against and the dc.


The master list in the op has Brynden’s char sheet.
He has status 5 with a +4 bonus to all check types and Persuasive 4 with a bonus dice in convince but none in bargain.
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>>3551985
Ah, thank you! I hadn't realised the different options had different checks. I just did them all with normal persuasion in mind because I am a dummy.

That makes getting the title much easier than I expected, actually. I think my list of demands >>3551676 stays intact though.
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>>3551985
Don't we get an extra +1 to Status when using it for checks like this with Blood of Valyria?
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Reading through the document again, we should really work on taking that title. We give back to sword, and claim an equally important part of House Langwards history.
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Man looking this over we are about to turn Langward into a nothing House. Im shocked subjugating them into our vassal isn't an option with just how beaten they're about to be
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>>3552227
It couldn'tn't work at all, no one in that family would remain loyal nor likely to submit. Even the threat of annilation would be empty since the Crown would intervine long before it could come to that.
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>>3552329
What if we got that exiled bastard dad mentioned? He might be loyal, said no one ever.

Yeah you're probably right. And even then it would probably be an even more difficult check than getting Godscrown. I just feel like dad specifically didn't include a demand we could make but should be able to think of. Also it'd be cool af to go full CKII and subjugate our neighbors and become High-Lord of the region, even if it's totally unfeasible.

Im so pumped for Brynden to finally win, even if it isn't the ultimate win. Kill the rest of the Langwards. Take their clay. Fuck Obella. Get more children. Fuck man, I'm so happy this quest is back.
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>>3552568
We still need to win the battle and not get dickstabbed by the Lannisters. Hold your excitement tell then.
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>>3551386
Two notes.

I did changed the Mead Recipe Book from -1 to -2 cost. Feel like that one makes sense. The monks would really like to have those back.

Second I realized that the Road feature on Option A - Langward Domain II, wouldn't actually be there as it was intended to be the God's Eye River Road, which is actually on the other side of the river and runs through Thorne's lands. So I took that off. It isn't a major change, just one to help me keep with my geographically canon. And I honestly doubt its going to change anyone's opinions here. Surprised by the overall consensus. I'm guessing its the fact the Thornes aren't fans of Brynden and fuck them. Is there any plan to still attempt to talk to House Chyttering and "negotiate" you leaving the other domain alone in exchange for something?

>>3551515
>(also man it would be nice for that domain to have an actual name that isn't Langward Domain II, like the Princewood/Violet Plains/Hemgrove have)
Ah fuck it probably should. Honeyfield? I need to think of a name for the abbey as well. Hell give me suggestions if you guys want.

>Ne, dad, what happens when Winter hits? Do our lands stop producing food totally or just get a penalty? How much should we start stockpiling?
Food Agriculture and Apiary both stop producing food during winter, that's an extension of the rules in OOSP. Stockpiling might be a good idea.

>>3551531
NAH.

It was initially an accident. But then I kept going with it because it made me laugh.

>>3552064
Not as important as Godscrown, but definitely important all the same. Brynden not having any other titles despite coming from a family of heavily loyalist Valyrians is honestly shocking. He should just start making them up.

>>3551941
All good math, but don't forget. Its also best of three. Which heavily skews things in your favor.

>>3552227
I mean. It is. It'd be... God I couldn't do that for anything less than a 30 DC and some write ins like the Godscrown one. A Status test maybe? I wouldn't even know where to start with that.

>>3552568
>I just feel like dad specifically didn't include a demand we could make but should be able to think of.
I didn't specifically. I think I hit all of the major ones people would want. But I really felt like I might have missed something so I left it open for everyone to think about.
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>>3553281
If Shit hits the fan. Does Obella have an escape plan to take Lorelei with her back to Dorne ?
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>>3553281
>Is there any plan to still attempt to talk to House Chyttering and "negotiate" you leaving the other domain alone in exchange for something?
I think it's less "demand a bribe" and more "Hey do you want to talk about doing trade deals and being friends? Did I mention that I haven't declared which domain I'm going to claim yet?" Maybe let them tell us all about how they totally deserve that domain and we can nod and agree with them and tell them how we've been convinced by their righteous cause.

>>3553281
Alright cool, I ask because canonically the Reach still produces harvests during winter just at much reduced efficiency so I thought that Plentiful domain might be able to still scrape some production.

Maybe Honeywell for the Langward Domain? That or name the Abbey after a saint of some kind and name the Domain [saintdude]sfield
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>>3553281

Does Cersei feel inadequate because her name doesn't start with an L? Like she's not really a Langward? If I got And-Zoidberg'd like that I'd cry.
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>>3553309
>Cersei hates Brynden and the Malroy
>Falls in love with Victus
>Suddenly become a lot more troublesome as she is angry that she is in love with a bastard

I mean. Who doesnt love Victus ?
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>>3553320
The queen.
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>>3553333
I am sure she is merely pretending to dislike him.
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>>3553287
Yep.

>>3553299
Ah alright. I'll keep that line of thought in mind when we're doing this debacle.

Aware that the Reach still produces, but I think I'd mostly have Brynden having to deal with Highgarden or the more southron Reachers to keep his food going should the stockpile run low.

Honeywell isn't bad, but sounds more like the name for a town in the area rather than the area itself. I'll workshop some names and figure out how I want to the the Abbey. Definitely more dedicated to the Smith, as their labor (making booze) is a labor in dedication to that aspect of the Seven. To parallel the trappist monks. I'll probably go from there.

>>3553309
Nah, she's a snot. Thinks it makes her special, especially because it's the name of the Queen as well. Landon and Lucos hate listening to her prattle on about it.

Any thoughts on how we want to recruit Ser Ambrose Oatwright's replacement in the Steadhold Household Knights? Currently down a Knight and Lucas is going to want to fix that real quick.
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>>3553362
Contact any Valyrian Houses or former friendly houses and hear if they have any spare knights/cousins they wouldnt mind giving ?
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>>3553362
Honeywell for the town, Honeyrun fields for the area.

Or could even go with southern(or whatever direction) Godseye fields.
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>>3553431
Even just "The Honeyrun" sounds like it would work really well for a domain name. Perhaps the abbey itself could be called the Honeywell Abbey? To be fair I dont really know how they're named, but I like the sound of that.

Once this is all done, I feel like we should commission an artist from OOSP to comemmerate our victory, and pay homage to our family (Parents, Brothers and Wesley). Maybe a grand tapestry or something?
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>>3553652
I like that name, The Honeyrun sounds quirky enough to BE in westeros.
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>>3553652
>>3553656
I like The Honeyrun. Works well with it being a grasslands right next to the God's Eye River. And Honeywell Abbey is a nice quaint name. Sounds good to me. And so it shall be.

>>3553652
>Once this is all done, I feel like we should commission an artist from OOSP to comemmerate our victory, and pay homage to our family (Parents, Brothers and Wesley). Maybe a grand tapestry or something?

You know what, that is definitely something we can do. There are a million and one artists in King's Landing so I'm sure you could commission one. Spend 2 Wealth and get a +1d6 Influence bonus. Not a bad deal, plus a nice memorial to those lost.I'll definitely let it kick around.
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>>3553431
>>3553652

I like this. There's no town in the domain but Honeywell Abbey and the land itself being called the Honeyrun sounds pretty nice.
Also some light googling led me to an actual amish community called Honey Run that looks just hella full of natural beauty, and the pics could be straight out of Westeros and/or The Shire
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>>3553872

I kinda have an image of a hamlet or village or other small settlement being there named "Welltown" because it was going to be called Honeywell Town but the smallfolk got tired of constantly referring to all the places around them as Honey-something and truncated it.
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>>3553872
considering a lot of the art of the steadholds in pretty bad shape I purpose that the art be some sort of mosiac, or fresco that sort of thing to decorate the halls as part of the symbol of our houses renewal
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>>3553891
Beeshire would be great. And if we somehow get Cersei as a ward we should just call her Lersei when she's being a cunt. So always call her Lersei.
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>>3553872
Father. Remember to have our steward or whatever he is fund a dowry for Cecilia to marry a knight so Dorian can be taken better care of. Just make sure it is handle with subetly.
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I was rereading old threads and found some important information that most of us have probably forgotten, especially as it concerns when we can use the info about Redfuck being a slaving piece of shit

>"Lord Royce is certainly not a soft touch. Regardless, I was made aware of the missing populace, and sent men to investigate. Incepted a ship, to find women and children chained below deck, claiming they were from Westeros. So I would say, very aware my Lord. As to why I have not told our fair King and Queen? Because, my Lord, they would bring a hammer down upon Lord Royce so heavy there would be nothing left. No evidence of what man across the Narrow Sea sees fit to intervene in the politics of Westeros, no evidence that the Queen showed favor to the man, and the lands would be taken, gift to a Knight of the Crown’s favor. Heroics in battle no doubt. And you would receive nothing my Lord. Barring perhaps the release of your sister, but even then the Crown may see her as guilty as well, and her name leads back to you. A difficult spot to be placed in my Lord. And likely to put you back to... Nothing? In truth my Lord, I do believe it is to your benefit that the Crown is unaware of such, for the time being.”

So we already have our hard evidence of Tychano Osten being the man in Essos that is interfering with Westerosi affairs, so we should be good to pull the trigger shouldn't we?


>>Isis: She continues, “The few times I brought to the Hall, he calls the wretched thing Bolthole Hall, and always shows me the crossbow he used to kill Donold with, the coward. I… I only attended the dinners a few times, could not stomach my food around him, and the way he would… Sorry Brynden. I met Linden Langward, he was wroth when he you took Hemgrove, and his wife Lady Brenda Blount, fat pig she is. The Lord of House Blount never comes, he is too scared after Dontos nearly killed Boros. Once I saw a man of Chyttering there, but never again after. There are strange men there though, they look like Essossi and speak in a bastards tongue of Valyrian, I only understand every other word and none of it makes sense.”
>Varys: "Oh matters of war are hardly my expertise my Lord. If I were a man of such I would suggest a few things, your Princewood? Take it quickly, search for evidence, do not trust the Chelsteds to help you, Ser Cyrus Chyttering is not the man Lady Alexes assumes him to be. The pirates? Inform Ser Jon Longwaters that a raven will be sent to Lord Stannis, I am certain he will be interested and more than willing to help. But most certainly do not do nothing. You must press on in gathering the information necessary to damn Lord Royce.
The Chytterings might be in fucking Redfucks pocket, that or they were offered a seat at the very least. We should investigate more when we talk to them.
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>>3555838
Fuck. The Chytterings seemed to be the better ally than Thorne. That might be a mistake. I don’t recall the Thorne’s having any connection to Redward.
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>>3555838
I'm not actually worried about the Chytterings that much. The fact that it only happened one and she never saw him again tells me maybe that Royce was trying to get the Chytterings on his side, but failed and they saw him for the bastard fuck that he is.
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>>3555874
The Chytterings as a whole are almost certainly not in Redfuck's pocket: Ser Cyrus Chyttering was one of redfuck's lackeys and we killed him back at the Melee In Steadhold I think. It's really hard to keep all these intrigues and characters straight. The real question is if the Chytterings have information on Redward that we need to find out when we talk to them.
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>>3555874
>>3555838
I don't think it really matters if they do either way
cythering will have to fight for that land if we don't take it
let them fight
either two enemies weaken each other or an enemy and a rival weaken each other
moreover the domain they'll fight over in the bandit one and warfare in the area will probably make it even more of a lawless clusterfuck which if it gets bad enough the crown might ask us to clean up since we have a recent history of pulling that off, thus allowing us to have our cake and eat it two and drink their milkshake
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>>3555838
I was wondering if anyone would remember this.

Just to clarify. House Chyttering is in good graces with the Crown. Its probably the reason they'll be able to get away with taking the northern Princewood (Domain III), via force, rather than claims like the Thornes would for The Honeyrun. Lord Clemmont Chyttering is ambivalent to neutral towards Brynden despite the death of his younger brother by Dontos' hand in thread XXXV. He knew his brother was a grasping fool. But doesn't know what to think of Brynden personally, and has a touch of dislike for Dontos. He's remained uninvolved in everything until the opportunity to take land and push off his rival neighbor. There's a lot of information that Obella could get about him and his intentions if you put a spy cell there. Though he has made known his thorough dislike of Royce to Alexes.

Ser Cyrus Chyttering had been courting Lady Alexes Chelsted prior to Dontos becoming involved. Cyrus was the one who had made contact with the Redwards, attempting to gain some allies to the south when he inevitably married Alexes and took over. Dontos began courting Alexes at your order. Cyrus got mad, challenged him to a duel for her hand. And Dontos accidentally killed him on the second pass. It was rather gruesome. Lady Alexes had been trying to avoid the mounting pressure to remarry, and Dontos having no desire to lay with women, was a perfect match to protect her last son and his inheritance.

So basically the Chytterings are no longer an active participant of the little scuffle going on over here. Dontos saw to that.

If this makes you uneasy or you don't want to deal with the Chytterings so whatever reason there is a third option on who could take the Northern Princewood. There is a historic, but now defunct title, of Warden of the Princewood. The Chelsteds have made claim to it in the past but it slowly faded away through war and time. They still own the vast bulk of the Princewood barring your section and the part that the Redwards own. They could, with some work, attempt to revive the title and claim the Northern Princewood in lieu of the Chytterings. If the two Houses come to conflict over it they will likely take it before the King. Saul and Benjin will talk about this option. Alexes likes to consolidate power, but that might be a bit beyond her reach with all of the lawlessness so Brynden might have to convince her and aid in subjugating the heavily Langward loyalist area if this is the route he wants to take.
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>>3556053
>>I was wondering if anyone would remember this.
My dude, I know it's shitty to say but how would we be expected to know all these interconnected characters after years of hiatus and also the format of the story making it rather easy to lose things in the shuffle in the first place. Honestly we kind of need a wiki to keep track of all of this in a readable way.
But yeah we're still aiming for that Chyttering friendship for now I think.

But yeah you did say you were gonna give us a refresher overview of what exactly needs to happen for us to be able to use our evidence of the slaving ring: We have Osten's nephew still don't we?
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>>3556159
>how would we be expected to know all these interconnected characters after years of hiatus
Lady Alexes is pretty important to the story. She's the reason our Barristan-tier fighter doesn't live at our house any more.

Which we might regret, if Cersei told Jaime to cut us up when he sees us - but I doubt that.
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>>3557311
>Which we might regret, if Cersei told Jaime to cut us up when he sees us - but I doubt that.
He can't do that, that's illegal.
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>>3557329
He is already sitting on our chair. All he needs to do is just stab us in the back.
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>>3557331
>All he needs to do is just stab us in the back.
>Jaime
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>>3557311
Doesn't Jamie actually take his vows pretty seriously? Or is that just post 1 hand jamie
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>>3557329
>>3557517
Sure, he was sent to disperse the bandits peacefully so it's not in his official brief, but as a Kingsguard any member of the Royal Family might have given him an extra job.

Does Cersei hate us enough to kill us so brazenly? Probably not. But you can't rule anything out with that family of crazed, murdering psychopaths.
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>>3557538
>>3557517
Remember to seperate out of character knowledge with in character.
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>>3557540
A fair point but i was asking out of character because I wasn't sure
In terms of IC I feel that brynden while understandably concerned about the presence of the kingslayer if anyone would be willing to give the kingslayer the chance to be different than his reputation it would be brynden "I'm not just a essosi sellsword" malroy
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>>3557597
It's not that he's the Kingslayer, it's that he's a Lannister.
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>>3557540
Pretty sure we were there when his orders were discussed.
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>>3557597
The Lannister sacked our castle. Murdered our mangled brother in his bed. Placed his head on a spike. Have aided the dude who killed and raped our mother and forced our sister into marriage.

Murdered our benefactor and now he has the gall to sit in our fathers chair. The man who died at The Trident fighting against the upsurper.
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>>3557599
>>3557601
I suppose that is the real sticking point isn't it
Either way we really don't have much of a choice but to grin and bear it
But someday, someday fire and blood
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>>3557605
Someday, someday Aegon will land on the shores and fuck up the stagfags. And when that day comes Targfag will finally know joy.
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>>3557724
>Faegon
Real dragons or bust.
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>>3556053
I like the idea of backing the Chelsteds. It might be investment heavy at the start, but it sends a powerful message, along with the Longwaters that if you back us, we back you.
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>>3557934
>it's the real Targfag
Based
I remember when we talked about Elsanna in like thread 30
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>>3557938
Good shout. Looking at the list of houses and or relationships with them it's clear we need firm allies and they're not just going to appear out of nowhere.

>>3557941
I remember that. Good times. How've you been?
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westeros ain't free
daenerys stormborn aka khaleesi is not my queen she is essosi philistine and probably r'hllorite as well :DD FIRE and BLOOD not planting trees and emancipation ok. praise Balerion
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>>3557956
Based. Been pretty good, actually. Really glad this quest is back.
How's life treating you?
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>>3557956

I really want to befriend the Velaryons, Chytterings, Chelsteds, and then move from there to befriending the flowerfags. What was the name of the Longtable fellow we bought turkeys from again? I liked him.
Saltygar is a lost cause because he can't let go of us being mean to him when we told him his retarded plan to get himself killed by Bobby B was dumb. The crackclaw point lords are poor and useless non-entities as far as I can tell. Velaryon is going to be a harder sell than it really ought to be because of Saltygar being a cunt but honestly I think we could befriend them. We should sort out our local connections first while our reputation recovers in the Reach from our (totally justified) stunt with killing Lameward and Oberyn fighting by us.

You know what I fucking want though? The thing we've been missing? We still haven't gotten a chance to actually TELL the Twenty Good Men story to someone who would appreciate it! I felt so blueballed when we realized that Tarly wasn't the sort of person who would be amused by it and decided not to tell him. I want the legend of Ser Twenty to really kick off and get some god-damn kudos for how badass we were.
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>>3557966
Same old, same old. Usurper's still squatting on the King's rightful throne.
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Guys it just occurred to me. When we spend our Xp, Status 5. We’ve really made a strong comeback as a boss over the last fifty threads from a near ruined house,
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>>3558151
We can't spend exp on Status, iirc.
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>>3558151
We already have Status 5. Dad seperates Status from the other stats
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>>3558157
Really? We meet the influence tier for it don’t we? I think 41 plus is required for Status 5.
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>>3558167
Yes, but in all of the /qst/ ASOIAF quests (that I've read, at least) status is something the QM decides, not something you can spend exp on. Even if you meet the requirements.
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>>3558172
Fair enough. I’ve followed RevengeGold for a while and read the pdf (mostly because of this quest) but i’ve never been very good with the crunch.
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>>3558167
we are upping our horrible awareness stat
i hope
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>>3558182
I really want to up persuasion, though.
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>>3558188
i hate blindness more than autism
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>>3558188
Did we ever get Iliad to do all our bargaining with his ridiculous 8d6?
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>>3558192
Okay.
I want all the demands we make to be accepted.
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>>3558196
>being this much of a jew

I just want to see the assassins and the opportunities in front of us
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>>3558193
Sadly we never get the chance. It seems like his bargaining skill will go to waste because we're expected to negotiate our own trade deals.


>>3558188
>>3558192
>>3558196
We have enough XP for one Ability and one Specialty. We really need more ability to see shit coming considering how often people try to bushwack us or important stuff is hidden behind a Notice check. Let's just spend 30xp on our 5th die of Persuade and 10xp on Notice.
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>>3558204
Try and be a little civil, I think that will help people see your point of view.
I think buying Persuade before the negotiations is a huge bonus. It will do many good things for our house. There is no such time limit on buying Awareness up.

>>3558205
Sounds alright although we could also save the 10 and buy Awareness as an ability later.
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>>3558217
I am not a civil guy
And I think you should get some of that persuasion for yourself
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>>3558237
We'll see who needs it more when we vote for it, laddie.
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>>3558217
This. If we can’t buy status then persuade is a good option. Gotta give that sword back freely for the -6 too. And be nice to the Langward kid. He’ll still hate us, but the crowd will approve.
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>>3558217

BEHOLD! MATH!

So here's our chances using the best of three system of hitting each DC using our current values, our current +an ability, and our current +a specialty.
I think Brynden really needs to get the ability to hit a DC 15 Awareness check asap: That's a 50% chance with a specialty and a 70% chance with an Ability.
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>>3558246
You think math will help us against /tg/ dice?
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>>3558278

Hs this thread been archived yet?



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