Your lips curl into a smile. This, now, is good news. The chance to defeat the rogue Servant before the Master of Berserker can stake out the next set of ruins, and to increase your cachet with Emiya's party. To eliminate one of your competitors, hopefully while they're either occupied in their feeding or sated, not expecting a battle. Ayaka has given you the perfect opportunity.

"That's wonderful, Miss Ayaka," you exclaim. "Can you perform the necessary magic here and now? If we can confront that Servant tonight, the evening may yet hold triumph."

"Oh, sure," she says, taken aback at your exuberance. "But, aren't you tired from the fight with Berserker? Can you handle more fighting tonight, Saber-san?"

"I told you, didn't I? I'm fully rejuvenated!" You pat the top of Ayaka's head in a way that could be either comforting or patronizing. You hope it's the former. "Thank you for worrying," you continue in a more normal tone, "but I really am quite well now."

"Alright then, Saber-san," Ayaka concedes. "If you say so."

Ayaka stretches her right hand out in front of her, holding the plate fragment in her palm, and the magic crest on her arm begins to glow. "Lost magic," she chants, eyes shut to view an inner world, "that was once of something greater. I command you by the name of Shijou. Show me your origin, and lead me to your source."

Then the magic fades, and Ayaka opens her eyes again. A faint glow, part of the light that shone from her crest, has taken up residence in her irises. "I know where the Servant is," she declares. "It isn't moving. I think it might be attacking another family now. We need to hurry, Saber-san! That way!"

Without a moment's pause, you pick Ayaka up once more and head off over the rooftops in the direction of her pointing finger. You're heading nearly back the way you came, towards the neighborhood of the Emiya and Shijou houses, but not in exactly the same direction. You won't pass the ruins where you fought Berserker, at any rate. After about a half-hour of travel, Ayaka motions for you to stop. Even if she hadn't though, you'd have known. Even from blocks away, you can clearly feel the Servant's presence as you approach; and when you alight on a roof across the street from the house, you can almost smell the stench of blood. The house where that Servant is feeding hasn't started burning yet, but what's being done in there is like a beacon of energy. There's even a bounded field set around the house, no doubt doing the job of warding off mundane senses.

Of course, if you can detect the Servant in that house, it can surely sense your presence as well.

>[ ] Enter the house. (Pride)

>[ ] Wait and watch. (Duty)

>[ ] Launch a portal at the house to attack the Servant from range. (Self-Preservation)

>>3632709

>[ ] Enter the house. (Pride)

First vote of Scathach

>>3632709
>[ ] Enter the house. (Pride)
A bounded field?
Concerning.

>>3632709
>[ ] Enter the house. (Pride)
>inb4 Dead End

>>3632709
>[ ] Enter the house. (Pride)
Time to meet Lancer, I suppose.

>>3632725
Did Adelheid know how to use those? She seemed like a fire and forget kinda gal

>>3632747
Adelheid wouldn't.
Circe would.

>>3632709
>[ ] Enter the house. (Pride)
Time to get ganked.

>>3632709
>[ ] Enter the house. (Pride)
Who cares about dead ends lmao

I wonder, would gil like the cut of our gib or would he see us as a disgusting pawn of the gods?
Maybe he'd see us as a cute mini enkidu to guide and mold into becoming a true hero

>>3632709
>[ ] Launch a portal at the house to attack the Servant from range. (Self-Preservation)
Don't give them the chance to prepare.

So, place your bets. Who thinks that we're gonna die?

>everyone voting for an option that they openly expect to kill them
but why

>>3633146

It's literally just three anon, we don't even know for sure so who cares? Not like we're going to immediately start the new thread with a dead end

>>3633077
Unless this servent is some berserker tier ass destroyer, i don't think we'd just get one shot like that
Unless it's like assassin or something which seems unlikely

>>3633077
Honestly, it depends on whether or not the Servant inside will appreciate our audacity.

>>3633171
>Not like we're going to immediately start the new thread with a dead end
Well, the first thing to happen to us upon entering the Akeldama was instant death. I'm not 100% confident that we'll survive this choice, but I'd like to talk to the Servant and try to see what's up if at all possible.

>>3633314
What's the point of talking to the servant?

>>3633360
To figure out why it's killing people, to get it to let slip a clue to its identity so we can more effectively combat it, information in general.

>>3633395
I think it's a safe bet to say that they're killing people to empower themselves

There's no point in simply waiting, you decide. To attack from above would likely give you an advantage, but would also certainly cause the deaths of any humans still living in the house, and that would disturb Ayaka. So there is only one thing to do: enter by the front door. You drop to the street below and materialize your armor before approaching the bounded field carefully. You haven't enough knowledge of such things to guess at its effects.

"Miss Ayaka," you say quietly, "what can you tell me about this bounded field?"

"Hmmm..." She scrutinizes it for a moment, before concluding, "it seems to only be a sensory barrier. It keeps people outside from hearing anything within, and alerts the user when it's crossed."

"Excellent." If it lacks the dangerous effects of Circe's barrier or the solid defense of Vaisset's, it's nothing to worry about. As you pass through it, you feel the membrane of mystic energy tingling on your skin, but nothing more. When Ayaka mentioned the auditory effects of the barrier you had been momentarily concerned that the property would be filled with screams and the bloody noise of its inhabitants' deaths, but these suspicions were unfounded. The air within the bounded field is utterly silent. You try the door, and find it unlocked, the click of the knob resounding in the stillness.

As you advance into the house, your nose fills with the stench of blood. You're certain now that there has been recent death here, but there's no visual sign of it. In fact, the house seems pristine, though dark. The entryway is clear and tidy, with all the family's shoes lined up in their proper places. There were children of four different ages in this family. The floors are polished. There is no clutter about, or any sign of a struggle.

As you move on you see that the living room is in the same condition. It could be a showplace for some modern interior decorating magazine. The house has a western-style layout, with its living room stocked with a sofa and entertainment equipment, and fully separated from the kitchen and dining room. The blood stench comes most strongly from the kitchen, and you doubt it's in the same condition of cleanliness as the first two rooms you've covered. Fortunately for Ayaka's eyes, there's no need to examine it. It's in the dining room that the presence of the Servant waits, as still as the rest of the house. Is it waiting for you with some trap, like a spider in its web? No matter. You clear the hesitation from your mind and advance toward the dining room, rounding the corner ready to materialize Heiligöffnungschwert at the slightest provocation.

By the way, did anyone notice the [WisUp] tags next to Berserker and Rider of Fuyuki in pastebin when we learnt new things about them?

No provocation comes as you stand on the threshold. In the dining room, seated at the head of the table with her back to you, is the Servant. You can see her only dimly, however. In the living room and entryway some light had entered through windows or the open front door, but it's not so here in this windowless chamber. The darkness is complete here, and without a Servant's vision you would be unable to see a thing. As it is, you can make out the general details. The predatory Servant is short, wears a richly decorated blue furisode and has long black hair that cascades down her back to cover the high back of the chair she sits in. On either side of that hair, a large ornament of some kind sits, perhaps of ivory. Then, as you're trying to analyze the danger she presents, the Servant speaks.

"I'm so, so glad that you've come, Saber." Her voice is soft, almost inaudible, as if she can barely stand the effort of speaking. "I've been hoping to, well, to see you. Please sit down, won't you?" She gestures at the chair opposite her, at the other end of the narrow table, with a pair of long silver chopsticks. As the Servant speaks you notice that the rhythm of her words is odd as well. She speaks very slowly, as if carefully picking each word, and periodically pauses even longer in mid-sentence.

'Stay well away from that room, Miss Ayaka,' you order your Master telepathically. 'It's too dark for you to see, right? Just stay well back, and I'll keep the Servant from approaching you.'

'Alright,' Ayaka answers nervously, and softly backs away into the living room as you approach the offered seat. You drop yourself heavily into it, armor clanking raucously, but if the violation of her silence disturbs the Servant she doesn't show it. Now that you're fully in the room, your eyes adjust and it's easier to make out the details of your quarry. Her face reminds you of a doll's: exquisitely beautiful, a contrast of china-white skin, black lashes, ruby-red lips, and iridescent, almost luminous eyes; but fixed with an emotionless, vacant expression. Adding to the artificial impression is the fact that the ornaments you'd previously noticed are in fact a pair of large, forward-pointing horns. Her clothing, too, is richly ornamental. She wears black silk gloves, tied at the wrists with white bows. White lace adorns the furisode's long sleeves, and affixed to it are many more ornate bows of blue, red, and gold ribbons, which look almost like large flowers.

On the plate in front of her, though, is something quite unfitting for a doll's diet: dark red meat, raw and thinly sliced as if for yakiniku, rising out of a shallow pool of blood like pasta out of a cream sauce.

"You have me at a disadvantage, miss. You have some familiarity with me, but it is not mutual," you say, keeping your tone conversational. As if you'd met this girl by coincidence, instead of hunting her down over a string of murders.

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"Fufufu," the other Servant titters quietly, her small mouth managing the faintest of upward curves in suggestion of mirth. "I am Caster, but it would be, ah, hardly appropriate to say we are... unfamiliar. You have been the, ah, Master of Caster before, and you knew me at that time. But then, we did have different... names. And features."

"You were in the Akeldama?" You can only ask in disbelief. But then something about her face suddenly does seem familiar. There's a hint in the features of another face. An awkward, perpetually unhappy and nervous face, masked by glasses and long, greasy hair. "Don't tell me..."

"P-p-perhaps it would, ah, h-help you to, er, remember," the Servant says, still with that tiny, barely visible smile, "if I t-took on my former, um, mode of speech?" Now the words aren't slowly chosen, but stuttered out quickly, with the pauses accompanied by placeholder sounds to make sure the other person doesn't cut into the line during a moment of silence. It all clicks.

"Ogawara-kun," you cry in shock, utterly taken aback, "But you-how-"

"Now, now," Caster says, returning to 'her' soft, slow tone. "We have different names now, don't we? I have not called you Yumigawa-san, have I?"

"No, but I would've expected you to," you reply. "Why?"

"Different names," Caster says, "for different people. There are... others entitled to those names. I know the term Caster has some... sentimental meaning for you, of course. If you would prefer, I shall call you Alberich and you may call me Yōjinshi-no-Kōrakuhime; but it is a bit of a... mouthful."

"Names aren't so important," you say firmly, now starting to grow angry. "What matters is that you explain something to me!"

>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)

>[ ] "Why are you traveling through Tokyo slaughtering families?" (Compassion)

>[ ] Say something else (Write in)

>>3633455
>"Why are you traveling through Tokyo slaughtering families?" (Compassion)
this is not how we raised you ogawara

>>3633455
>>[ ] "Why are you traveling through Tokyo slaughtering families?" (Compassion)

>>3633455
>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)

>>3633451
Yep. Is it supposed to be Wisdom Up or something?

>>3633451
I decided to put a notifier on the entries that get updated in a status update from now on, and IIRC WisUp was what F/SN used.

>>3633455
>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)
Fucking hell

>>3633465
>>3633467
Huh.
Pretty handy.

>>3633455
>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)
Is it wrong that I still want to kill and absorb this servant

>>3633455
>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)
While the other question is easy to answer with "to survive". I'm not sure why he became a servant. All the power of the ritual should have gone to Alberich.

>>3633473
C'mon, we were just considering IC the usefulness of consuming all of Tokyo. What's one former ally added to the pile?

>>3633455
>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)
Well I didn't expect some idle talk from last thread to materialize itself.

>>3633496
Well, I'm not entirely sure what our plan is with this new revelation.

Incidentally, here are the two latest additions to the voice cast:

Berserker: Furukawa Makoto
Yōjinshi-no-Kōrakuhime (Caster): Noto Mamiko

>>3633478
And how did a normal human become a Servant?
I'm now starting to think Yumigawa, Matsuda, Ogawara and Keiseki were all copies, and Judas was either having them all compete to see which one would get to be his replacement or ensuring that he would have backups in the event that we died for real.

>>3633507
Get Ogawara on our side. Having a good Caster is really useful and we already have enough servants to fill the grail. Setting up some way to use the leylines would really help.
>>3633514
Yes, but then how did this ritual gain power when it just invested power to create copies and sacrificed them to gain the same power back?
And what the hell would happen with the servants left at the end?

>>3633529

If we somehow become at best on neutral terms, are we going to have to beat the crap out of anyone that decided to lewd them, or possibly even handholding?

Wait, what if because we didn't sacrifice Circe and Adelheid Judas just channeled their power into Ogawara and maybe someone else?

>>3633455
>[ ] "Why are you traveling through Tokyo slaughtering families?" (Compassion)
...He doesn't have a Master, does he?

>>3633553
Judas seemed incapable of directly killing someone with Akeldama. The entire reason for why we needed to kill each other was that he couldn't just take the power of people and channel it into others.

>>3633507
Dinner's canceled. Let's just try to get along with her. Him? Whatever. Anyways, I'm expecting WALLS of exposition from Judas later on.

>>3633512
>Yōjinshi-no-Kōrakuhime (Caster): Noto Mamiko
Oh boy. I can't stop hearing Hayami Saori everytime I try to read her lines.

>>3633559
She shouldn't be, isn't that why she's killing these people? Besides, Judas' spot was already filled by us. But does this leaves her or any other rogue servants being able to be claimed by Rider's master?

>>3633577
>She shouldn't be, isn't that why she's killing these people? Besides, Judas' spot was already filled by us. But does this leaves her or any other rogue servants being able to be claimed by Rider's master?
That would be funny. Akagata preparing an ambush with him and it turns into a bloodbatch for her since Circe/Adelheid/Matsuda decide they don't like this turn of events much.

>>3633577
>Hayami Saori
Interesting. She'd also be a very good candidate, I can definitely see why you'd read it that way. Now I'm torn...
>Dinner's canceled
If you ask nicely, Kōrakuhime might share some dinner with you.

>>3633606
I only picked her because you casted Noto Mamiko and I have difficulties in differentiating the two. No pressure.

>Yōjinshi-no-Kōrakuhime
Anyways, you mind telling us where you took this from? Or maybe it's too revealing for now? Can't find anything on Google or DDG

Anons, just consider this for a moment. Sweets clearly displayed that he thought up the OgawaraAsAServant route, and here we are. You know what else Sweets did? Directly ask us, the anons, what class Matsuda would hypothetically be in if he ascended to servanthood. You get what I'm getting at here?

>>3633622
At this point it's a rather obvious fact that Matsuda would be a servant too.

>>3633622
So instead of reuniting with our waifus, we're gonna meet our old bros instead?
I can't be fully mad at this, damn you Judas.

>>3633618
I wrote it from scratch. Ogawara came up with it. It's just as chuuni as you'd expect from a name (s)he invented. Here's the original: 妖神死の紅楽姫

>>3633628
The question: is he Lancer or Basakah?

>>3633455
Also holy shit, I didn't expect to get trapped this way.
>[ ] "Why are you traveling through Tokyo slaughtering families?" (Compassion)

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>>3633455
And we're off to a rollicking good start!

>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)

Matsuda might be kicking around somewhere since he was also part of the chargen options.

Kikuko and Truvi though, ho boy.

Shit, I just realized that Ogawara is an oni. Our life might not be the only thing in danger.

>>3633670
>Kikuko and Truvi though, ho boy.
If Kikuko has become a servant too then our brainwashing her is really going to pay off.

>>3633677
So how tall/short are they compared to us?

>>3633635
I'm probably wrong but does it mean Comforting Crimson Princess of The Bewitching Death God(ess)?
Fuck me, that's embarrassing to write.

>>3633553
So you're saying Judas might've turned Circe into a trap? Unforgivable.

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>>3633635
>>3633685
from a fren who's good at moon

>>3633638
I sincerely hope he's Lancer so that he's not fucking nuts when we meet him. Knowing this quest, though...

>>3633670
>Kikuko and Truvi though, ho boy.
I don't think those two were copies, and since turning people into Servants requires people juice, I fear for their lives.

>>3633685
Using Google-fu and what little I've picked up of the Japanese language over the years, I think the gist of the meaning is something like Picnic Princess of Smoldering Death (I feel your pain, that hurts to type), which explains the burnt houses and dinner. But I don't actually know Japanese, so take this with a grain of salt.

>>3633684
(S)He Ranked A in the last thread, remember?

>>3633716
His Mad Enhancement could be just E.

>>3633712
short addendum:

>Though depends on context, 妖 can be calamity or bewitching

>>3633716
Exactly, we really need to have a talk witth Judas about the specifics of Akeldama.

Seriously though, did Ogawara's change into becoming an oni really make him that bloodthirsty?

>>3633685
You're missing some nuance. Like all properly chuuni names it's all branch meanings and branch readings.
妖 - Yō - Bewitching or Calamity. Here used for both. First kanji in yokai.
神 - jin - Read as a word, means god. As a kanji, can also refer to the soul or mind. A heroic spirit is ambiguous.
死 - shi - Death, of course.
の - no - Means "of" (though reversed from the english version) in proper JP, but also an archaic particle linking a name together as with von. Taira-no-Kiyomori is a classic example. Since Caster has no family, what (s)he was thinking is dubious.
紅 - Kō - Crimson.
楽 - raku - Used here in secondary meaning, music. Also the final kanji in camelia, the flowers Caster wears.
姫 - hime - TL note: hime means princess.
Altogether, Bewitching divinity of calamitous death, Kōrakuhime!

>>3633733
Very likely yes. Oni are the fucking worst

>>3633733
If it's eat people or die, I think most will accept the soul munching.

>>3633712
>>3633731
Oh, I see I needn't have explained.

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>>3633677

Where's his master?

>>3633755
lightning round Oni-off

who hits al's strike zone the most, shuten ibaraki or ogawara

>>3633712
>>3633716
>>3633742
>Kōrakuhime means Kōrakuhime
Goddammit. But yeah, I get the gist now. Guess that's what we're calling her.

>>3633764
trick question, correct answer is "threesome"

>>3633767
I spelled out the individual kanji meanings for you! I'd translate the whole thing as something like "crimson princess' song," but that's not very name-like.

>>3633775
"Crimson Camelia Princess"?

>>3633775
Does melodic works? >>3633779 sounds pretty good as well.

>>3633764

ONI THOTS BEGONE, DEATH TO YOU AND YOUR FILTHY KIND IS DESERVED

>>3633773

>Lewding disgusting oni
>Lewding disgusting LOLI ONI

Anon you're going to deep into degeneracy

>>3633779
>>3633783
"Crimson Camelia Princess" and "Crimson Singing Princess" would both work, sure. Double meanings are the beauty of kanji.
Anyway, you get the idea. Long chuuni name with way too many meaningful characters.

>>3633684
In the Akeldama, Ogawara was already a few inches shorter than Yumigawa, and you've gotten taller since while Yōjinshi-no-Kōrakuhime has grown shorter.

Now that I think about it, Kōrakuhime is a Caster so she might be more rational than the other oni. Keyword: might. By the way, Sweets, are we going to end up asking both questions either way?

>>3633800
But is it a cute height difference, though?

>>3633800
I M A G I N E

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>>3633789
calm your tits raikou, jeez

>>3633805
>>3633814
The codex does not approve of this line of thinking

>>3633819

ONI BONES, MAKE SERVANT HOMES

This is fucked. We're just one of several of Judas' "heroes" made by Akeldama. The others just rode our coat-tails to survive and benefited from our hard earned victory. We should reclaim the power they stole from us.

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>>3633878

>>3633638
>>3633716
If Matsuda really does end up as Berserker, just pray we get to him in time before some asshat decides to use Mad Enhancement. Otherwise, we'll just have to be forced to put him out of his misery (assuming of course, that he doesn't just become super focused on something rather than a raving lunatic).

>>3633878
>Keiseki is the only planned hero to have not make it out.
Poor guy, he picked a fight with us and now his head is a soccer ball.

>>3633839
Leave me alone, Raikou. I didn't even clear the shop on your stupid 95-raid event.

>>3633918

Oni didn't take All your senses, limbs, voice and skin from you my senpai

>>3633801
The most important thing is which subject matters most to Alberich.

>>3633933
Then I'm going to switch >>3633646 to the Pride option.

>>3633455

>[ ] "Why are you traveling through Tokyo slaughtering families?" (Compassion)

May as well get an idea to figure out if s/he has a master based on this since we could ask Judas himself how it came to be later.

I honestly wasn't expecting this to happen, shit since Truvi made it out and didn't become Caster what class would she appear as then?

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>>3633764
I thought about this for a while, and I'm going to have to say Ibaraki. Only when ranking looks, though.

>>3633789
>LOLI ONI
I also have this loli-oni-slayer, if you prefer.

>>3633805
Of course it's a cute height difference. You think I do non-cute height differences?
I don't know what height difference you think is cute, so I really can't say.

>>3633956
I think a whole head's difference is my bare minimum.

>>3633947
You raise a good point. I'm switching back to Compassion.

>>3633960
Well then, you are in luck.

>>3633455
>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)
Oh, I was more expecting some strong Lancer but this is so much better.
Matsuda and Keiseki will probably be a thing too, won`t they? Hoping for Seigi no Mikata Matsuda Berserker and Assassin Keiseki in search for meaning of live next.

>>3633997
>Keiseki
Anon...

>>3634000
Don`t Dream Crusher EX me like that, Anon. There is still hope.

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>>3634009
>he dreams of keiseki being alive
Die, traitor!

>>3634012

>Not wanting to kill Keiseki again

I'm sure Ogawara's still shy, even though he's an oni, so my prior concerns about our chastity are probably unwarranted.

>>3634023
Not to mention during the Akeldama, we tried to get him hooked up with a girl. This is certainly going to be awkward.

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>>3634033
>spoiler
But we didn't, we tried to work on his... confidence...

>>3634012
>Not wanting Hassan of the Hundred Faces-esque faceless salaryman Assassin to spook everyone in this grail war only to get cheap shoted by us the moment he encounters us again face to face
It is like you can`t handle the fun things, Anon.

>>3634040
>Hassan of the Hundred Faces-esque faceless salaryman Assassin
Keiseki embodying the concept of the "faceless salaryman"? He'd die of overwork firstbe a pretty interesting opponent, I guess.

>>3634036
Like a true friend. I'm sure you're looking forward to seeing how your work has paid off.

>>3634075
>went from tomoko to rikka
That's an improvement, alright.

>>3634075
So for soundalikes is she now more Altera, Shishou, Bryn, or Fujino?

>>3634111
Refer to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_A6fU7aiXs

Well.
This was highly unexpected.
>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)
This Grail War is fucked.
FUCKED.

So.
What are the odds that Ogawara and Matsuda became servants and Kikuko and Truvi contracted with our prior servants.
*SUDDENLY CASTER IS SUMMONED* sure would be a family emergency.
Seriously though Ogawara what the fuck.

>>3634147
>thinking Kiku and Truvi made it out
anon...

>>3634147
He read too much edgy isekai LNs.

>>3634155
>thinking they didn't
Anon...

Dunno if this is too spoilery to answer, but

>Akeldama War went smoothly
>Only one Hero candidate survived and didn't kill Judas

Would Vaisset just have had two servants to use straight up?

>>3633455
Sweets, are you not capable of going one thread without another game-changing revelation? Not that I mind. I somewhat expected *something* else from the Akeldama to survive but-

Fuck It. If Caster doesn't have a Master, would they like one? ...Or would that just end with Caster ganking Ayaka, oh I can't tell.

>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)

>>3634173

It's why I went for the compassion vote honestly, discern whether or not they're eating people due to not having a master to supply mana or there is a master who just happens to be a callous asshole.

Still if we can't exactly prevent changing their mind to actually go for having a Master then that begs a question. What exactly happens to the Servant affected by Ayaka's ritual when it goes to us? Are they just in our inner mind/soul hanging out with Judas right now? Turned into power fuel? I'd imagine since we took on Durandal from Roland there'd be something that'd resemble him lingering around

We got A LOT of shit to be questioning Judas about now, once this fight is over we need to have a talk with the silverman

>>3634182
>this fight
Fight?
I mean, unless Ogawara has a death sentence, she won't do shit.
Magical Barriers don't like working on space fucking anti-world shit.

>>3634186
>death sentence
Death wish.
But Caster vs Saber close range is typically a Death Sentence for Caster.

>>3634186

I say fight due to it being a possibility really, I do worry of what the Emiya family are gonna think of this. Well then again Rider ate plenty of people so who the hell are they to judge we bring in our own person eater?

Shit the Apocrypha war of Team Alberich vs. The World is gonna actually happen isn't it?

>>3634195
I just realised, if we get both our servants back, recruit Ogawara and Matsuda and corrupt Saber...
Our team is fucking unbalanced as fuck
2 Sabers
2 Casters
2 Berserkers

>>3634198

I'd prefer to gyp Saber in all honest, but I do see benefit to corrupting her. You know if Truvi also came back to the world as a Servant with Circe with her, what class would she fall into?

>>3634202
Caster.
She's a magus.
And it's more likely that Circe is her servant and she's still human.

>>3634182
Well all of the normal servant slots are taken, so then If they do have a master they're an extra themselves.

God, It Isn't something stupid like she's found Outer Yumigawa and made a contract with him Is It? Sweets said we'd meet the guy, with rogue servants littering the war he's gotta be a Master of somebody.

>>3634206
>contracting the outer version of us.
>not contracting yourself
How dare she.

>>3634202
>>3634204
Pseudo-Servant with Circe.

>>3634211
>Pseudo-Servant Truvi and Kikuko
Oh shit.

>>3634215
>Kikuko
>inb4 she's possessed by archer

>>3634220
She'd be possessed by Adelheid.

>>3634215

Hold on Anon that's too much

>Psuedo Servant Truvi and Goddess Circe
>Psuedo Servant Kikuko and Reich's Fuhrer Adelheid

>>3634220
Someone post the reference image for Kikuko

I need it for...reasons

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>>3634220
STOP-

...
So if Kourakuhime here was also created by Akeldama...
Does that mean...
We're her brother?

>>3634226

No idea, but I do want to find out what everyone of the Akeldama gang Servants are capable of. Also to see if Keiseki is worth eating at all

>>3634236
Keiseki is dead, anon.
Super dead.
He failed in his trial to become a hero.

>>3634237

Oh Anon you poor innocent boy, vengeance is a powerful motivator to become a Servant

>>3634226
>little sister is a Hikki NEET demon who has taken to eating people
Probably has true name discernment too, if her skills are based on Akeldama.

>>3634242
No it's not.
You can't just die and expect to become a Servant.
He never saw his death coming, not like he cursed his own death.
Yumi didn't become a Servant in any of the bad ends.

>>3634246
Well she did call us Alberich.

>>3634251
Yeah, but we've been fairly loose with telling it to people.

>>3634246
Maybe she just used some magecraft of some kind. If becoming a Saber can give us swordsmanship, it can give Kourakuhime some knowledge of magecraft (maybe Judas knows some?)

>>3634254
None of the people we've given our name would have any reason to tell Kourakuhime.

>>3634260
She is Caster.
She can likely scry.

>>3634261

Of course but he means what ELSE can s/he do?

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>>3634220
>>3634223

>>3634263
Cook, shitpost on anonymous imageboards, do bonus damage against other females, Video Games Mastery C++ and Wisdom of Drawn Worlds A++.

The real question is if we should call her our little sister for a critical hit.

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>>3634281
get on my level anon

>>3634281
>>3634298
Stop.

>>3634298
>>3634281
Stop It, at this rate you're going to make Archer coming back real.

>>3634296
That'd be fun and even fitting, but then by that logic We'd have to call Judas 'Daddy'.

>>3634296
"I am sorry I was such a failure of an Elder Brother that you, my innocent little sister, resorted to cannibalism and squatting. I promise that from now one no schemes of our father will stop me from setting things right."

>>3634296
>>3634319
That might just end up setting her upon us.

>>3634320
Oh no.
How terrible.

>>3634322
Yes? I want to at least stay pure until we get Circe and Adelheid back.

>>3634318
Since he was a sacrifice and now part of us it is more likely that we would just temporary summon makeshift of him for assist from leftover parts.

>>3634322
>Either we get a Servant as an ally, or we bait her Into giving us a free powerup

This Is the power of 400 IQ, gentlemen.

>>3634323
"Ayaka we need to run! Caster is trying to sexually assault me!"
"Wha-"

>>3634325
>actively wanting to kill Ogawara

>>3634331
>actively caring about Ogawara

>>3634358
>not caring about your little sister

>>3633455
>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)
God if Circe is in his(her?) body like Judas is in our I'm gonna be so peeved!

>>3634361
>little sister
She's exactly as old as us.

>>3634365
So?

>>3634363
The worst case scenario.
Let's hope that doesn't come to pass.

>>3634371
And what's best case scenario?
Because Psuedo Servant Goddess Circe and Psuedo Servant Adelheid along with Kōrakuhime and whatever the fuck Matsuda is right now sounds pretty optimal.
Even it it's a lot of mouths to feed.

>>3633455
>[ ] "How is it that you've become a Servant?" (Pride)
>daughter is a hikki NEET
>second son is a blood thirsty delinquent with attitude
>oldest son is a sociopathic lolicon
Poor judas, being a single dad is a demanding and thankless job

>>3634399
Anon, what he means is that Circe might be a part of his core like Judas is a part of ours.

>>3634399
Yeah that's probably the best case scenario.
Worst case is if they are in Ogawara and Matsuda with little influence.
Best case is if they've been contracted to Kikuko and Truvi or have possessed them with full control.
Gee Alberich, how come Judas lets you have FOUR servants?

>>3634405
It was a hole of his own digging. He should've known he was headed for trouble when he decided to raise his family in a devastated city in the middle of his pocket reality.

>>3634405
>meanwhile Matsuda is dismantling Yakuza rings as revenge for his friend using his newfound superpowers.

>>3634409
>Gee Alberich, how come Judas lets you have FOUR servants?
Strong dad of the year candidate right here.

>>3634413
And they thought the Einzbern were the cheaters.
This is why the Caster Class should be banned from grail wars.

>>3634405
We really do make an interesting bunch huh?
Man now you got me excited to get the boys back together!
[The Boys are Back in Town muffled in the background]

>>3634407
And what I MEAN is that while what you said would suck as I said before, Circe and Adelheid taking over Truv and Kikuko's bodies would be amazing.

>>3634409
I'm trying so hard to curb my enthusiasm, but the possibilities!
Is this the power of Dream Crusher EX?

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>>3634415
"Are Ya Winning, Son?"

>>3634412
>matsuda escaped from akeldama as a berserker
>he has no idea where everyone is so he goes to beat up yakuza for information
>he runs into goons from the fujimura group who are tailing taiga so she doesn't get into trouble with rival gangs
>he ends up making friends with taiga, who is there to visit shirou, and goes with her
>he finds alberich and korakuhime

>>3634417
https://youtu.be/1WAlkyxz2mU

>>3634417
Theoretical FGO villain Alberich isn't just a dream now.
His team
>Kōrakuhime
>Matsuda (name pending)
>Saber Alter
>Adelheid inhabiting Kikuko
>Circe (divinity restored) inhabiting Truvi, with Goddess' divine core and EX Magical Energy
>Alberich after eating almost every Servant in this war and mastering his magic
Now the real question is who is 4* and who is 5*?

Isn't it a little early to assume that Ogawara is still a trustworthy ally? Surely he's got his own motivations.

>>3634438
>he
Rude. Our cute demon sister won't betray us, I hope.
She merely has to accept us as her older brother, and her king.

>>3634438
Maybe we would know if we ask him why he's eating people. So far the vote count is at 5/11 (C/P)

>>3634438
I'm not assuming anything. I want to find out how he became a Servant, what he's been doing and why he's roasting and eating people.

>>3634446
>>3634447
I bet he's eating people because he's an Oni and he's a masterless servant, so he needs to get his energy from elsewhere or he'll disappear.

>>3634438
It's unlikely that he isn't at least fond of us. His interaction until now showed it.
But even should this not be the case we are almost guaranteed to be stronger than her, since we were the hero of Akeldama and we absorbed a servant since getting out and we have a master.

>>3634438
Ogawara-Kōrakuhime seems to be hit pretty hard by ego death and mostly operates on instincts of a new oni body (wanton killing and arson). From our short talk it is already seems that our Extra Caster is pretty eager to met us and still struggling with new self. Diplomacy road looks pretty possible and plausible so far.

>>3634446
That wouldn't really tell us anything besides why he killed random people. The answer to that is almost certainly to survive without a master.
Not something that tells us much besides that he has an existent self-preservation instinct.

Waot
if we keep Kōrakuhime around our entire relationship with the emiyas will become a huge juggling act wouldn't?
May be best to break off our alliance once berserker is down

>>3634446
>Alberich on the way here: "I could really go for the magical energy of 36 million people right about now."
I don't think we're in any position to scold her.

>The miracles born by your Heiligöffnungschwert are the Three Miracles of the Gate and the Key."
The voice pauses for a moment, perhaps for dramatic effect, before listing off in jubilant tones, "The power to cut through the boundaries between the worlds, to project from itself openings to Our realm! To bring into your world and sustain there in spite of its vile physical laws the impossibilities which in Our world, by Our authority, are possible! To make real in your world the Nothingness and Void from which you were born, and which are there condemned to be Imaginary Elements!"

>To bring into your world and sustain there in spite of its vile physical laws the impossibilities which in Our world, by Our authority, are possible!

I wonder if this miracle of HGS could be used to help sustain a Servant's existence in the real world as well.

>>3634475
Maybe if we asked the gods really nicely.

>>3634475
I'm still hoping to get it to EX rank.
Maybe if we appease a Smithing God
Sustaining Servants though...
I don't know.

>>3634475
>by Our authority
Mmm

>>3634483
It's fine, we just need to eat Achilles and channel his divinity into HOS. What could go wrong?

>>3634475
It should work. In the worst case we can still become hime's master and provide the mana with our Mana B rank stat.

>>3634488
Everything?

>>3634488
Seems like a waste.
We likely just need to impress/empower the gods to level it up to EX.

>>3634489
That's really not how it works.
At all.

>>3634495
>That's really not how it works.
A bit of explanation would be nice you know?
It's not exactly a big topic in what I watched from fate, but I'm sure servants can provide mana though we might lack command seals.

>>3634504
We're already a mana drain on our master, so if we shared any with another servant we'd be weaker and/or just putting more strain on Ayaka.

>>3634507
Yes, but the drain should be shared with the grail and she shouldn't get the full cost.

>>3634504
A Servant can't be a Master.
Medea managed it by fucking around with the system and by being Medea.
Her Assassin wasn't even a proper assassin because of this.
And we rely on Ayaka for magical energy.

>>3634511
Sure, but they can provide mana which is what we need. The command seals are a good power up, but not necessary for us to have a useful ally.

>>3634510
That wouldn't matter, you're still heaping on even more mana drain
Fucking hell, people have died from the mana drain before

>>3634516
It does matter a lot. If it's well within the strain she can take and with caster we can look into getting something working with the leylines too.

>>3634512
Command spells are necessary though.
Read the VN.

>>3634512
Servants are always a drain on some source of mana. They would never provide a net gain of mana. I don't know what you're talking about

>>3634489
Servants aren't supposed to be Masters.
>>3634490
pfft, nah, no way

>>3634519
>Command spells are necessary though.
Caster seems to manage well enough without command seals right now.
>>3634520
>Servants are always a drain on some source of mana.
To clarify the sentence was a servant can provide mana to another servant.

>>3634520
Unless she hooks up to a Leyline.
But that will quickly get attention.
I wonder what the bad luck is about...

>>3634510
Sharing the drain is necessary just to be able to live. Remember, it took our Servant-level Od stories to support both Circe and Adelheid; if we gave Ayaka another Servant, it would leave her bedridden for the rest of the War unless she knew how to draw more Mana from the leyline.

>>3634523
Caster forged fake command spells for Kojiro.

>>3634523
>Caster seems to manage well enough without command seals right now.
She's not a Master.
Masters need command spells.

She's surviving by hunting and killing people, and at this rate she's going to attract attention from Antaglio.

>>3634524
Right, that's why I like the idea of hooking servants up to the IR via HGS as an energy source to sustain them. It should go unnoticed by the overseer and it gives us a position of power over them since we can supply them energy or cut them off if they get uppity.

>>3634525
Good that hime most likely knows how to do that.
>>3634526
I'm talking about hime here not Medea. She's not dead so using kisses like in Akeldama should be possible.

>>3634528
Oh right yeah, and this too.
You can't contract with a Servant without command spells.
Medea proves it.

>>3634529
HOS drains energy to access the IN Realm. Any gain from there would be lesser than the drain from forming and holding the opening.
Not to mention Alberich doesn't know how to do something like that, Ayaka probably doesn't know either, and HOS may not even have that power.
>>3634530
>using kisses
No.

>>3634530
If Hime knows how to use Leylines she wouldn't be going around literally eating people.
Or somebody else has set up at the Leyline and forced her away.
But only Circe should be knowledgeable enough to do that.

>>3634535
Maybe. But the god really emphasized that the miracles of HGS run off of their power, which might mean that it doesn't use much of our own energy.

>>3634538
She might have been forced away which is easy since she had no mana supply as a caster, but should be a lot harder if we clear the space.

>>3634542
There shouldn't be anyone around capable of Medea-ing the Leylines though.
Unless Circe is laying low and using them I don't see what could have convinced Hime to go around eating families.

>>3634540
It means the miracles are granted by them, and its description notes that Alberich exerts his miraculous power "by expending a great deal of energy".

>>3634549
It doesn't need to be someone using the leyline. Just someone deciding they don't want a caster to set up on a leyline.
Or maybe Hime didn't even try for fear of meeting a servant, because currently even Assassin might kill her.

>>3634549
>There shouldn't be anyone around capable of Medea-ing the Leylines though.
The Einzberns might be doing it.
Or, as >>3634455 noted, she might be overwhelmed by her Oni instincts telling her to eat people since she's hungry.

I want to know how the fuck she knows our name.
And why she's acting so smug.
Damn NEET, instead of getting a job working as a Servant she's just going around eating people.
Get a job, imouto-chan.

>>3634551
Ah shit you're right. If we're lucky it's just a large initial energy cost but there's only one way to find out

>Desire goes up by three after seeing Kōrakuhime
Alberich what are you thinking man

>>3634586
Probably [Curiosity].

>>3634575
I would say that your guess earlier about skills being based on Akeldama is probably correct. Since it makes the most sense given that we know and already set precedent with our own skills.

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>>3634587
>[Curiosity]
Hoo boy...

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>>3634596
hate to pop your cherry, baby, but we don't stick our dick in crazy before the third date

NOT GAY IF ONI.

>>3634589
>The only things we had Kōrakuhime do in the Akeldama was cook and research the names of enemy servants
Man, I hope we can take control of this super utility servant somehow. I doubt Ayaka can manage a second servant, but man....

>>3634607 #
We also had him play dress up.
She might have a shapeshifter skill.

>>3634610
Oh what in the name of fuck.
>Oni Kind Demon (鬼種の魔, Oni-shu no Ma?) is a Skill that represents the superpower as well as the demonic nature of an Oni. Only Oni and mixed-race beings with Oni blood can acquire this skill. A mixed Skill of Natural Monster, Monstrous Strength, Charisma, Mana Burst, etc. The version of Mana Burst depends on the user, but it is usually 'Heat'.

>>3634618
This is a skill all the FGO Oni have.

>>3634618
Her rank is probably B, maybe A if she's a full-blooded Oni.

>>3634623
So if we're forced to kill her in the end and she has the skill, taking this skill (if we tell Ayaka to set up the ritual) might make us an Oni.
That might not be so good.

>>3634625
>killing one of our actual for realsies friends
Anon no

>>3634647
First Kōrakuhime-chan, next all of Tokyo!

>>3634647
Friends is a strong word to be fair

>possibly 5 extra servants, 4 of which are aligned to extra Saber
Antaglios gonna freak!

But yeah, it's possible that Truvi is contracted with one of our Servants now.
Be that a Pseudo-Servant contract or a normal one.
It's a perfect reason for Luvia to be called back from shutting down the war if the Edelfelts actually get to compete.
Kikuko is also possibly contracted.

>>3634671
Well, it's the second closest thing Alberich has to a friend, other than Matsuda.
Also the second person Alberich ever met.
Also, she's technically his sister.

>>3634676
>sister
>implying Alberich wants to imitate the pathetic human concept of a family
Alberich is beyond such things

>>3634672
>inb4 this war turns into some massive team battle where it's ~six of the normally-summoned servants versus Alberich, Bahsaka Matsuda, Kōrakuhime, and the Emiyas
Sweets wouldn't do that, right?

>>3634676
Look, Alberich is a hero. Killing friends, sisters, people near and dear to childhoods? That's 100% hero shit senpai.

>>3634684
No.
Alberich will protect all of his little sisters.
>>3634686
>Six of the normally summoned Servants
Ha! Make that 5. Thanks for the sword Roland. But honestly, turning this war into a team effort would be a mess.
Protecting our siblings is non negotiable.

>>3634684
Even the Gods had families anon.
Nothing wrong with a group of individuals coming together to provide support for each other.

>>3634686
Also
>not putting Adelheid and Circe on our team
We've got confirmation that we aren't the only survivor, they will return to us.

>>3634704
>implying they aren't already by our side
Where do you think we got our noble phantasms from anon?
Our dad turned our waifus into weapons so that they may always serve us

>>3634716
>Where do you think we got our noble phantasms from anon?
We got Kenótis from the cape Circe made, so that theory thankfully falls flat.

>>3634716
>>3634718
Yeah and we got our Minds Eye C from the gloves.
If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say we shared the 6 servants.
2 for us are the two we just happen to be able to attempt a NP replication of (Archer and Rider)

>>3634721
I feel like we ought to have any of Justinian (definite since we're Saber), Cunt Eastwood, Perseus and Robin Hood in us, seeing as those classes were what we had.
Where do you think our skill with the sword came from, if not Justinian?

>>3634761
>had
Could have had, rather.

we might have them maybe once we reach the throne

>>3634761
>>3634763
>Alberich gets all the male servants
>Kōrakuhime got Circe's power, which turned him into the fe(male) caster
>Matsuda got Adelheid's power, which maybe turned him into a fe(male) Berserker

>>3634783
>which maybe turned him into a fe(male) Berserker
>Sukeban-serker representing burning spirit of youth.
Probably way too cheese to actually happen.

>>3634783
Whatever happened to our servants, they weren't absorbed.
I think.
Man I hope Truvi is contracted(and isn't dead) to Adelheid/Circe and is on her way to Tokyo.
The fucking look on her face when she sees Berserker(?) Matsuda, Kōrakuhime and Alberich all as servants will be incomparable.
>"What the fuck why didn't I get to become a Servant and random Japanese Highschoolers did?"

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>>3634783
>a fe(male) Berserker
No.
Matsuda doesn't deserve that.

I seriously hope Matsuda is taking this as an opportunity to beat up Yakuza thugs.

>>3634824
I seriously hope Matsuda has met Taiga by now.

>>3634824
That would certainly be a fun explanation about whats keep Antaglio occupied at the moment.

>>3634844
Well as long as he's staying out of trouble and isn't eating children.
I can't believe Orphan Juice rebranded as Newly Orphaned Juice, I think I preferred the chunk free recipe too.
I guess times were hard for them after Gilgamesh got himself eaten by a pissed off orphan.

Four kids in this house alone. I feel like we're glossing over that.

Kōrakuhime would be totally in character asking Shirou how many breads he has eaten.

>>3634854
Full list of fuckery that will give Antaglio a heart attack if he reads it:
>caster is judas iscariot
>judas held a grail war inside the grail war
>judas replaced himself with another saber who didn't exist before the inner war
>false saber ate a piece of rider and made his np better
>false saber is collaborating with outsiders to stop the war
>judas actually made three new heroes
>the gnostics were right

>>3634895
Don't forget that there might be an Ex Goddess and Literally Hitler ready to get involved in the war too.
It's just
It's just all kinds of fucked.
Nobody on the Masters sides even tried to break the war this time.
It was all that prick Judas.

Even when everyone plays fair it still breaks.

>>3634870
>I can't believe Orphan Juice rebranded as Newly Orphaned Juice, I think I preferred the chunk free recipe too.
>I guess times were hard for them after Gilgamesh got himself eaten by a pissed off orphan.
bro, you should try Homunculus Soda, it's an eco-friendly substitute that uses only mindless homunculi instead of orphans
>Four kids in this house alone. I feel like we're glossing over that.
Of course we are. They couldn't have been very important if they weren't even named.
>Kōrakuhime would be totally in character asking Shirou how many breads he has eaten.
alberich holds exclusive monopoly over all jojo references, sorry

>>3634910
>Nobody on the Masters sides
Except the Einzberns.

>>3634910
>It was all that prick Judas.
It's like he saw the history of the war and said "You summoned all the world's evil into the grail? I'm gonna do one better!"

>>3634910
Anyone starting to miss the Akeldama? At least that was simpler (relatively) than what we're doing right now.

>>3634910
>hold another HGW with a new grail because the old one is fucked beyond belief
>immediately gets ruined by some guy who told his servant to upgrade himself without hearing the specifics

But what if we empower Kōrakuhime with another Servant kill, make her copy Akeldama and do another Akeldama to improve our chances of victory in this war?

>>3634281
I'm not gonna lie, this was hilarious.

>>3634318
>spoiler
Dad Ajisartous

>>3634575
>I want to know why she's acting so smug
>Damn NEET
Answered your own question, anon.

>>3634586
I just hadn't updated the emotion stats in the last couple of days. There were three events that drove it up by 1. One of those was meeting Kōrakuhime.

>>3634956
This is why Caster should be banned.

>"I want to see a nice clean grail war, where you 7 servants battle to the death until there's a single victor, good lu-"
>"DID SOMEBODY ORDER EXTRA SERVANTS?"
>"JUDAS NO!"
>"DID SOMEBODY ORDER A FACTION WITH THEIR OWN EXTRA SERVANT TRYING TO SHUT THE WAR DOWN?"
Etc.
There might be Extra Extra Servants if Adelheid and Circe around.
Extra Extra Berserker and Extra Extra Caster.
What an absolute fucking meme of a grail war.

>>3635017
Y'know it's funny how much chaos Akeldama made and how nonchalant Vaisset was about activating it
>hey i can get a power boost if i sacrificed 1000 souls
>yeah sure
>10 threads later

>>3635010
>this is why Caster should be banned
But think of their great record!
>Gilles tried to kill the entire city
>Medea kills her Master and then tries her hardest to fuck with the grail
What a great class, where nothing could go wrong! It's not like the class explicitly able to summon Servants better at magecraft than the 3 founding families could be a bad thing!
How did the Caster class even get through the first brainstorm.

>>3635029
I mean that Mastercide was justified.

>>3635029
Actually, having all Servants as Casters would incredibly fit the image of lazy mages. Don't know how to access the Root? Summon someone, threaten them to die and watch them go trying to hack the process for you. Incredibly convenient!

>>3635065
>threaten your Caster with death
The problem with this is that they can just as easily kill you with a word.
And they would.

>>3635075
I suppose as long as important magical science gets done, it barely matters. It's not like the current process is safe and goes without any sacrifices.

>>3635084
You really think summoning 7 of the most bullshit class would be safe?
Casters are typically the weakest against the other classes but nightmarishly strong against humans.

>>3635097
I think that for the purposes of finding bullshit magical source it would be much more convenient. Either it all goes horribly wrong pretty much immediately and no one ever tries it again or some combination of bullshit from each respective Caster used creatively will solve that problem in a couple of days at the cost of one destroyed neighborhood and most of the summoners, after which who cares about the cost because bullshit magical source is achieved and mages can fuck things up much faster now.

I hope our new sister doesn't arbitrarily come up with some lame excuse to fight us.
Unless she wants to die.
Lucky for her we're one of the few Servants that wouldn't react to this with disgust and instantly attacking.
She seemed happy to see us though.
Better pledge your allegiance to us Kōrakuhime, I don't wish to kill you.