Hello everyone!This is a quest based in the ASOIAF universe which follows a captain of a free company that has recently been given dominion over Stormgrave, an island near Dragonstone. Ser Aurion Shryke is a common-born man with a natural affinity for leading men and making friends. You a swiftly approaching the beginning of the year 284 in first few months of King Robert Baratheon’s rule.Quest resources including character sheets can be found here:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Ot_VGz9iDVmO1neVhGQMOs9h2G9Hd7nb?usp=sharingI try to update twitter on run times/important votes here: https://twitter.com/CormaicBPrevious Threads: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=House%20ShrykeNow, let's get started!
“If you’re looking for heroics, then I will be the hero. Easy enough,” you tell Cerelle.“That isn’t what I ask of you,” she hurriedly corrects. “I would never ask that of you.”“But you see why it might be needed,” you point out. She doesn’t respond, won’t respond, but you see the conflict writ plainly on her face. You know her well enough now to see she has a blind spot when it comes to the possibility of loss. She’s clever, might be that she’s too clever, but she can’t bring herself to risk those she loves even if it’s the obvious move.“You do,” you answer for her. “This Lann the Clever… he was clever, yeah? That was his big thing?” you ask.“In all the stories…”“Good! Lann the Clever only needed one trick to found a great house and lived as lord from then on. Sellswords must pull out a new trick every day for just a hot meal. I can’t promise the gods will smile on me, but I can promise I will be like Lann,” you tell her. You see her soft smile starting to shine again.“Aurion… I mean this in the best way possible, but you are not very clever,” she says, biting her lip to stop her smile.“And yet here I am, about to seduce you all the same,” you smirk.“Oh? Let us assume you are correct. How do you know that isn’t exactly what I want?” her deep blue eyes twinkle with the challenge.“That’s my point. I’m very wantable,” you say as you step forward again. “That isn’t a w---” she starts before you cut her off with a kiss and start lifting her dress. You don’t bother carrying her off to the bed or fumbling with all of the laces and ties, instead making do with the cushioned chair. It’s fast and full of mutual need. “You could use a bath,” Cerelle says as she catches her breath after you’re finished. Her forehead is pressed against yours and now she’s lightly perspiring herself. “As could I.”
>>4238771And that’s where you end up. The copper tub is big enough for two even if it does make you miss the marble bathhouses you’ve frequented further east. At least the view isn’t obscured with too much steam this way.“I thought the purpose of a bath was to become clean, not sweat further,” Cerelle half-heartedly complains. “Hmm? It could be warmer, really. The child has my blood, he will like the heat,” you say.“She. You are so sure? There is a reason why old families keep their looks over the ages. Our blood is strong,” she says. You point to your eye lazily, but she’s unmoved. “We know you have pretty eyes, but you will recall that your hair is rather common. My features will run stronger, you will see.”“Is it? I should hack it off,” you tease.“Perhaps the beard…”You freeze. “Vaeron warned me of this. He said wives seek to unman their husbands with smooth faces. To show control.”“That… explains so much of his relationship,” she stifles a laugh. “But I was only teasing. I believe I like a little beard. I am more concerned with how you intend to be the hero, as you put it.”“By being wanted. Needed even. I’m one of the only men of note in this entire region that has no reason to see the Stags dead. Now I just need to make sure the Stags know it. My tongue is my best feature as I’m sure you’d agree,” you smirk.She sinks further into the water rather than give you the satisfaction of an answer. Still shy of such talk. Westerosi women are an odd sort. “So long as you do not risk yourself unnecessarily…” “Can’t say I’ve done anything without good cause so far. If I take risks, it’s only to keep us safe and happy,” you say.“I would feel better if you at least did so with a shield on your arm…”>If you insist…>No thanks. You see, I like women>… only if I get to paint a woman on the shield
>>4238777>… only if I get to paint a woman on the shieldThis seems like a jokey kind of way to putting the decision off until later. How will fighting with a shield effect our bulk?
>>4238777>… only if I get to paint a woman on the shield
>… only if I get to paint a woman on the shield
>>4238800Oh, it's meant to be a yes, just with the added caveat of Aurion actually wanting to paint a woman on his shield.It depends on the shield. Here's a snip from the book for shields. They'd all give an extra +1 to combat defense because of your armorer. You're actually down to bulk 2 right now since you're not using a halberd. Bulk only reduces movement speed every two points.
>>4238826>you're actually down to bulk 2I would love to get a large shield. But we need to wait till we could invest in 1B into shield anyway. So "Shield" it is.>>4238777>>… only if I get to paint a woman on the shield
Do do we have a figurehead?
>>4238777>You freeze. “Vaeron warned me of this. He said wives seek to unman their husbands with smooth faces. To show control.”Oh my god it's hilarious and also so true.
>>4238839You know, I spent a ton of time combing over things to see if that's true. As far as I can tell, there's nothing keeping you from strapping it to your arm even without the bonus die. You would take a -1D penalty to fighting IF you were attacking with the shield, not defending. That's why it has the whole Athletics-2 damage profile. So, you're welcome to use it anyway, just don't get disarmed.>>4238841I don't know. Do you?
>>4238777>If you insist…
>>4238777>… only if I get to paint a woman on the shieldAurion plays nice and it's a depiction of The Mother
>>4238856In my mind, the 1B is used to say block well with the shield. Cause if that is what is stopping us. Then I would take a tower shield. Given the lightness of our weapon. We will be losing 1 damage with our weapon. You sure you wouldn't want to say reduce the defensive rating say by 1, for not meeting the 1B quota? Tower would make us slower is all. And it would give us a real incentive to gain Armor mastery. But it's only real draw back to giving us a 3x return on a regular shield seem worth it. I think it is to generous to give it to us with out some negativeIf we really want to lead from the front as more people are arguing for now. I'd commit to fighting 5 in the future if we/you guys are going tower shield. We could still keep up with our heavies, especially now IC with our increased agility. since Armor mastery would reduce the bulk by 1 negating that and making us a real lead from the front kind of leader. And not the middle as I had hoped prior.
>>4238897Is there any point to arguing rules with the qm? Seems like such a waste and annoying to boot.
>>4238897>increased agility.We didn't increase agility. Anons voted for persuasion
>>4238777>>If you insist…>honey I want you to wear armored socks and chainmail on that precious tongue of yours.
>>4238903I think it's too generous is all other than being slower. Which keeping up with our heavies shouldn't be an issue. There are no downsides to just picking a tower shield. IC I feel like a large shield fits best with Aurion's character best, while also taking shit from Vaeron about finally getting a shield cause our wife bullied us into it. Don't mean anything by it. I'll stop.>>4238904we got it as a free upgrade because Boggs had been nerfing us when he shouldn't have by mistake. God bless mistakes
>>4238917Huh...I missed that in the previous thread.
You pull a face like a squire taking his first sip of rum. “A shield?”“A shield. You may have seen one before, perhaps amongst your men? That is, amongst the men who have a habit of returning home on their feet. I don’t presume to be an expert on such matters, but I believe they are meant to keep you alive,” she stares at you.You stare back. You won’t cave to such an unreasonable demand so easily. “You do see the problem here. I prefer women.”“All the more reason to better protect yourself,” she says while blocking your beautiful, bountiful view with crossed arms.“… only if I get to paint a woman on the shield,” you haggle.That takes her off-guard. “Is that… normal?”“Sure it is. I’ve seen plenty like that out east,” you say.“I don’t see why I should care so long as you wear it. It is your shield… I believe Marq has a woman companion that he brought with him from Duskendale. She is supposed to be talented at painting heraldries, so perhaps she could help you,” she says, satisfied with the outcome.“I’d been meaning to speak with him on putting together some finer armor for the knights I’m looking to recruit. Something proper prestigious,” you say.“Your knightly order idea? That seems simple enough for five knights. It would be more appealing to see them in similar garb rather than appearing to be in motley,” she yawns.“I swear I remember mentioning something about you sleeping more,” you chide.“And then you left me here alone to fret with the rest of the women… but perhaps you are right. Even so, I would like to see the letters you brought back,” she says.“After you rest. And me with you. Haven’t slept in ages,” you decide.“I have heard men get that way after battles,” she looks you over with concern. “You have a bruise again.”It has more to do with seeing your men’s blood running down the decks along with the cries of the wounded and dying, but you haven’t the heart to tell her right now and instead follow her to the bed. She’s fast asleep in your arms before long. Despite your burdens, you feel you’re soon to follow despite the early hour. Now is the time to rest and recuperate for you and your men both. Still, you do have some time to burn through before you’re due for the grand wedding to be held in the capital, so you first resolve yourself to…>Get closer to the Lady Bar Emmon. Befriending her will make life easier for your house in the long term.>Focus more on brewing your rum. If you dedicate enough time to it, you may come out of it with an impressive sample for the wedding.>Surveying your lands properly to get a better feel for the state of things.Continuing tomorrow. Thanks for playing!
>>4238976>Surveying your lands properly to get a better feel for the state of things.
>>4238976>>Focus more on brewing your rum. If you dedicate enough time to it, you may come out of it with an impressive sample for the wedding.As she and both big and little Janessa focus on the letters.Cerelle should focus her attention>Get closer to the Lady Bar Emmon. Befriending her will make life easier for your house in the long term. I feel like having Vaeron and the first go over surveying would be unreasonable?Can't win em all? But I don't see why our officers couldn't.
>>4238976Are these time sensitive?
>>4238987Just pick one.>>4238988Yup, otherwise there would be no point in putting it to a vote.
>>4238976>Get closer to the Lady Bar Emmon. Befriending her will make life easier for your house in the long term.
>>4238976Get closer to the Lady Bar Emmon
>>4238991>>4238976>>>Focus more on brewing your rum. If you dedicate enough time to it, you may come out of it with an impressive sample for the wedding.
>>4238976>R U M
>>4238976>>Focus more on brewing your rum. If you dedicate enough time to it, you may come out of it with an impressive sample for the wedding.
>>4238976>Get closer to the Lady Bar Emmon. Befriending her will make life easier for your house in the long termI get how surveying would be an issue. But the other two don't really conflict. Considering after a hard days work. Come home and have a chat with the lady at dinner as we host her or something.
>>4238976>>Get closer to the Lady Bar Emmon. Befriending her will make life easier for your house in the long term.put that persuasion to use
>>4239016>put that persuasion to useWe just committed to that. We may as well have her like us more than she did her brother or so. But I was also just thinking the rum would give us access to the king besides a far greeting. We are to low to even get some private time with him. But the rum may by us that private meeting. So I am torn on the decision.
>>4238976>Focus more on brewing your rum. If you dedicate enough time to it, you may come out of it with an impressive sample for the wedding.Time for R U M
>>4238976>Get closer to the Lady Bar Emmon. Befriending her will make life easier for your house in the long term.waifu time!
>>4238983Switching to R U M
>>4238976>Focus more on brewing your rum. If you dedicate enough time to it, you may come out of it with an impressive sample for the wedding.It's a hard pick between this and befriending the lady, but i think making sure things go smoothly with Robert are more important for now.
>>4238976>Focus more on brewing your rum. If you dedicate enough time to it, you may come out of it with an impressive sample for the wedding.
Posting again to prove my vote isn't same fagging.
>>4238976>Focus more on brewing your rum. If you dedicate enough time to it, you may come out of it with an impressive sample for the wedding
>>4238976>Focus more on brewing your rum. If you dedicate enough time to it, you may come out of it with an impressive sample for the wedding.This us definitely the most important thing to so in my opinion.Mabye out other named characters can do the other two activities, albeit to a lesser extent?
>>4238976By the way, how many months do we have before the battle in dragonstone again?
>>4239435About 3 after this little jump we are doing here. There will be one more house fortunes roll before it.
>>4239608any chance we could rent some mercs?
>>4239702Sure. Base power of the unit type, plus pic related for their training.
>>4239753interesting... so 3 power and 3 wealth for a troop of trained engineers?
>>42397912 power 3 wealth based on the attached chart. Ignore the "Mercenaries" type on the chart. I prefer the variety my take allows.
>>4239829Any chance we could do something like scout cavalry? Like Animal Handling, Fighting, Awareness?
>>4239845Sure, that would work. Probably 4 power base cost.
>>4239829So we would have to pay wealth and power for a merc?We seeing a run today man?
>>4239845for a siege battle? haha
>>4240028Yeah, the big difference is that it leans more towards wealth than power. Looking at it, the conversion rate is a little better than what it would be if you were doing a straight resource conversion of wealth to power. That and there's the flavor of it if you guys were looking to have a more eclectic force. Of course, you can convert population to power at a 1:1 ratio, so that's also very viable way of putting together another unit or two if you don't want to spend wealth.I'm unfortunately not going to be able to run tonight. I really want to, but I'm buried in work at the moment and I don't expect it to let up until friday. I'll try to have a post or two up before then, but I think that's the best I'll be able to do.
>>4239853Based.>>4240031For whatever. We should plan beyond one fight with big investments like this. They could stay back and defend the island if they're not suited for this one battle. It plugs a big hole in maneuverability and scouting.
>>4240084are we married to these mercs? can't we just dismiss and get others later as needed?
>>4240105Idk why they would hand us back the coin. That and I'm perfectly happy to dip into population for that unit. You want to grab merc engineers along with them, then that's something I could vote for.
>>4240084>they could stay back and defend the islandOr we could just get a unit specifically designed for that. And picking up on spies and units like that with the awareness dice stats it has.The bigger problem here is that We just don't have that much space. We commited to ferrying some of Estermonts men. I believe he knew about us having the carrying capacity for one of his units. since I think we can carry 210 men. 50 already taken up, leaving 160 units free for 1.5 full units of capacity. If we were to get another unit. We should just get another heavy unit to go to war with. For our offensive forces anyway. A heavy unit costs 5 power + training. We have 3 glory and 22 population we could convert at a 1:1 conversion rate.We could free spend 11 population till it take a big toll on our house roll. going from the current +1 to -5 if it goes under 11.I know people wouldn't love the idea of trained heavies. But I think we should leave them at trained instead of veteran as it would impact population a decent amount. And obtain trained garrison.11 population = 11 power + 3 glory = 14 power8 power for trained heavy infantry + 5 power for trained garrison = 13 powerWe could save either the 1 pop or 1 glory, what did you guys have in mind? I like this so far, but I am open for suggestions. I think Calvary would wouldn't be wise. As there is no way with our current shipping capacity we could use them. Horse do not enjoy being on ships in general. But I would imagine that we would need a ship just to contain 100 horses or 50 horses worth of a unit. No idea if a Calvary also has 100 units of both men and horses. The logistics for that sounds terrible.
>>4240119The unit I described and got an okay on has awareness as a stat just like a garrison. Not that they have to be used defensively and not that awareness matters at all for spies. Heavy infantry with low training keep getting killed. Idk about going down that road a third time.
>>4240112undoubtedly we need at least one more standing unitbut I like the idea of mercs for the flexibility, and since it's a siege, why not engineersmaybe if we reduce an important fortification senpai will notice us
Cavalry units are 20 men+40 horses and take up the space of 100 men. You could stick a unit on your flagship and stick the heavies on the dromond and still have the 3 galleys to lend out. Dragonstone is a big island, not just a single fortress sitting on a rock, so you could find some use for a unit like that.
I'd like them for helping to hunt down a certain group of deserters too.
>>4240134>Not that they have to be used defensivelyI just think transporting them is a logistical nightmare.>>4240159niceIs three galleys enough to fulfill our promise to Estermont?>>4239853For 4 power we could afford to get them trained up to veteran. For a total of 9 power.And have them act as the garrison when they are not actively fighting. for 1 more power we could add endurance, and they would be a force of fucking nature. 10 power cost
>>4240173It's to Manderly and yes it would be. Ser Wylis, his heir, will be accompanying you with a small contingent to wave their banners and all that. I think I mentioned that Lord Manderly has already departed for White Harbor with most of his men along with the majority of the Northmen. Endurance? Not sure why they'd need it in combat. Cavalry units use their mounts' endurance and athletics ranks in place of their own. That's why you'll notice no cavalry units, including homebrewed versions, have those keywords.
>>4240119I'm ok with the unit but I really do not want to use that much population I personally am fine with dropping it down to 20 but that probably it imo
>>424020220 would still put you down a rank. Here.
>>4240206Yeah but it'll be easier to get it back up from
>>4240201mhm, read that tid bit after the post.Interesting so to increase endurance and athletics it would be buying a better warhorse?>>4240202mhm>>4240206I understand if people don't want to lose that much population. I still want the small town myself.But 7 for trained vs 9 for veteran seems like the obvious choice for me. We only have 3 glory. so converting from population we would bee 4 or 6. Either of them drop us to the next bracket. With the luck we have had recently I would rather we go for veteran Calvary. We would go down to either 18 or 16 respectively for population. If we are going for hero we want to stand out. As we try and be the first boots on the beaches we will be taking the brunt of attacks. Our heavies are prepared to take a beating and kick ass, so should our 2nd unit. name or 3rd unit #2 just isn't working outAnd if we really want to commit to the battle we could buy new weapons for both units but the Calvary will get 1 wealth for free upgrades anyway and our armorer is a great synergy bet there. I'd just say save the money to see if we can get a new whole wealth building purchase/a Vinter
>>4240159>Dragonstone is a big island, not just a single fortress sitting on a rock, so you could find some use for a unit like that.half of it is a big hot volcano though. hard to see how cavalry can maneuver there
>>4240206We get one more house roll before Dragonstone. If we wait till the roll and its growth can we make a unit at that time and use it immediately or with there a "build time"
>>4240241Will there be a* Voice to text is ass
>>4240241Blessings improve one resource by 1–3 points or two resources by 1 point each.Would be the only way we see a nice increase. That would be quite rare to obtain. But hey who knows we could get lucky. Pick population and power. and obtain 4 points of power that way. if we then convert population to power. + 3 glory giving us 7 powerOr the even rarerBoon should always improve one of a house’s resources by 1–6 points or two of a house’s resources by 1–3 points.plenty of things could go wrong here or right. But we would have the minimum of 4 points either way. Point is things could go awry and we get fucked with the house roll and we lose resources on that. I wouldn't bet the house on that, considering our wife wants us to commit to going full action hero. Lets not leave that up to chance.I'd rather we convert and get our units and train them up and get friendly with the unit. for more than a couple weeks before the dragon stone raid.
>>4240226>Interesting so to increase endurance and athletics it would be buying a better warhorse?Pretty much. There are superior and extraordinary warhorses that are bred and raised by certain houses with the right holdings. Then the different breeds themselves have different stats. It's a whole thing. You guys could see about setting something up yourselves if you were so inclined. >>4240230Yeah they'd be limited once you start ascending. Effective on the beaches around the fortress though. >>4240241I've been using a flat 1 month build time for new units. Considering the house fortunes is in month 2, you could wait until then and still have one ready by the time of the bigger battle if that's the goal.
>>4240296>Considering the house fortunes is in month 2, you could wait until then and still have one ready by the time of the bigger battle if that's the goal.Idk what everyone has in mind. But we could use this time after the wedding if we don't commit to something in that time table. For another raid, and bring in another house into the kings peace. If we could bring in another house into the kings peace I'd say we would be doing a great amount of work for the king and no one could say we didn't. Getting house Sunglass, could have Rambton on bent knee to the king as their banner house. And again not a place that would be expecting a raid. Considering we've been saying we would raid Rambton lands.
>>4240258Agreed. I don't see why we can't convert and get a unit up and running first. Then see where we are with house fortunes after. >>4240321Idk how we are supposed be single-handedly conquer another house right now. It feels like too big a risk if it's even possible. We could do something about hunting down those deserters. Maybe get the new unit some experience.
>>4240349Well even if we didn't do the connection directly. Cleo owe's us cause I am sure she used our name. And said we blessed it and blah blah. She had also said she would commit to raiding house Rambton with us. That failed. We could go with house Sunglass and have her send her women that way. We could share the raid winnings there. And she could be doing it for her new found house as well so it's a win win win for her. especially if she could play off her more loyal to the pirate life as pawns to die in her power grab. And keep her loyal units alive and well.
>>4240366If it wasn't clear, we could likely get Cleo to join us on a raid to bring in a house into the kings peace. What we do need to do is see how far this rabbit hole for the plot to murder us goes. She could do it for her new fiance. Saying it was in the name of Edison of house Celtigar. Playing some honor into her new house. And it would likely get her contract for the raid on dragon stone more leverage. If she has already proven her loyalty towards the crown. And you know making sure Edison doesnt have to pay for the sin of his loyalty. I could think of many ways in which this would be good for her. With out calling this as a favor for us.
>>4240366What, for her new marriage? Or she dangled her resources in front of him and he bit like any sane person would in that position. All we did was drop the suggestion on her. We didn't even talk to celtigar about it. I don't see how she owes us anything. More likely it's reversed and we owe her since all we've done is jerk her around with empty promises. All of that pushing to get her to raid was us convincing her to go along with it rather than what she was dead set on doing. And aren't her spies dead because our house is full of leakers? Idk, I guess we'll see soon.
>>4240387>I don't see how she owes us anything. More likely it's reversed and we owe her since all we've done is jerk her around with empty promises.We brought her to to our home as we promised.W.e not a big deal.We brought her to KL, as a known PIRATE. That sir is a favor. We spoke on her behalf. Another favor. We used our contacts to make that happen. She would never have been able to get even get near the people who could talking about it much less the possibility of a deal. >And aren't her spies dead because our house is full of leakers? Idk, I guess we'll see soonWe don't know that, their own incompetence could have caused them to fail. Even if we did, she couldn't know that. They likely died before they could inform her. I am fine with skipping right past our houses failings sir. Also Edison would marry some unknown warrior pirate? She was introduced to him via our connection. That we never got to speak on her behalf are semantics. She used our connection, and our friendship with him to stay at the manse and make that possible. So I do feel she owes us yes. Much more than what she has given us. What has she given us, other than her following us? her saying she would get us information failed. But I see this more as a win for her regardless of if we call in on our chips.
>>4240404>who could talkingwho could talk about such matters*Just saying we pulled her away from shako as part of a deal. He gave us a shiny new sword. We promised to make it lucrative for her, and not waste her time. We completed our end of the bargain, if nothing more and are at least equals. Given her new rise in status, in the legal realm of matters at least.She gets what shes wanted most to create a legacy. You don't think she used the information we fed her about the boy being a queer to help her negotiations? She will start her family with name recognition. And a partner who will be focused on being a merchant while she runs the her household affairs.(Pirating/commanding privateers? and the like).We dangled the idea of her marrying into nobility with us, crushed that. But she still got what she wanted but with a house with more history and less infamy. Making it easier for her to settle into this new life style.But that's just how I see it. bitch owes us one.
>>4240404I mean yeah that's the absolute ideal light for us to be seen in and I'd get why some would assume that's the default because of trouble seeing other people's perspectives. I just seriously doubt she shares this idealized view of us and our role in her life. It's unrealistic.
>>4240417>absolute ideal light for us to be seen inI mean those are the facts. But yeah you're right.>It's unrealistic.Have you MET Aurion? Thats like 80% of who he is. I wouldnt be surprised if he had come with mummer as in add in. We don't need the coin, but the story telling would play up well with how we would spin things. Which is why we are a charming SOB. Thats our whole thing. Be charming, more charming. And a dash of charming. And bullshit our way into and out of a situation. How her women dying was worse for us, how we can't attack them now blah blah blah.
>>4240446She also came as part of a deal to make create better ties after directly profiting from her counterpart raiding our lands. So she isn't clean there either. She came as a sorry of sorts for her "partner". Cause the girls were given to her as tith or some shit.
>>4240296there may be room for cavalry tactics on our island, but there is no room for operational maneuver, anoncavalry just doesn't make sense unless you have open ground for the horsies
>>4240417> just seriously doubt she shares this idealized view of us and our role in her lifesure, otoh we did get her into king's landing, where she would/should have been hung, by rights, except now she's on her way to being a lady and shitthat's a pretty solid turn
Yeah I don't know about all that. I'd like it to be true, but it seems more like wishful thinking. Whatever, we'll see. >Ser Wylis ManderlyOh man. So the father of Wylla Manderly? The Wylla-poster in /SIFG/ is going to have a stroke if he reads this.
No luck today?
>>4242267Boggs is dead. Father is dead. Joe is dead.It's over.
>>4242267>>4242293>I'm unfortunately not going to be able to run tonight. I really want to, but I'm buried in work at the moment and I don't expect it to let up until friday. I'll try to have a post or two up before then, but I think that's the best I'll be able to do.
I'm alive. Running in 6 hours.
Rum. You and your men have a thirst, this is known. And yet you have been too preoccupied of late to see about replenishing your stores. More importantly, if only just, you have a wedding to attend. It just so happens that the man of the hour has a taste for your craft. Given that man now calls himself king, you feel it best to Sometimes if you want something done right you just have to do it yourself. And so, you awake and don your new mantle as terror of the kitchens. What better place to perfect your craft? You have servants already on hand, ample supplies, and even a few items that prove more effective in the brewing process compared to your old, dangerous ship rig. Who knew you had so many great stewing pots down here? The first week is the most crucial in that you know your batches will need at least two weeks to ferment. You’ll be checking up on them regularly but getting the batches all set up is the biggest hassle. It also allows for the most creative inspiration as you make minor tweaks to the various pots you’ve arrayed. But your passions do come with a cost. Meals are served late, wenches are flustered, and your brand of controlled chaos becomes the norm of this otherwise peaceful sanctum of baking and roasting by the end of the first couple of weeks.“Let it cool a bit more first before adding the yeast, Daisy. Add while you stir, Violet. Makes it more even, yeah?” you call out to the kitchen wenches as you make your rounds yet again. You’re a singularly distracting presence and it might just be that a fair few are half in love with you despite your hovering, but they work all the harder for your smiles, so why disabuse them of their fantasies?“Milord… Milady Cerelle will be wanting those for the lemon cakes,” one hesitantly tells you.“Milady Cerelle’s going to need to find some other dessert,” you scoff.>Go out to the hall and inform the table yourself>R U M
>>4243626>>R U MBooze before bitches
>>4243626>>Go out to the hall and inform the table yourself
>>4243626>R U MWe don't have time for this. This shit needs to be perfect
>>4243626>Go out to the hall and inform the table yourself
>>4243626>R U M
>>4243626>>R U M
“… will milord be telling her ladyship?” Violet the kitchen wench asks as you greedily scoop up the zested lemon. You look up from your arbitrary yet careful measurements, only causing her to eyes to widen further at your attention. Poor girl’s afraid of passing on the news herself. Cerelle does put on that sort of frosty, elegant show whenever you have her out of bed. Less relatable to the little folk than your approach to life.“Too busy. She knows where to find me. Sides, it’s my kitchen,” you brush it off and get back to your work. Eventually your wife, your new foe, sends forth one of her heralds. It’s almost amusing to see the deference given to the petite Lenore Lydden, your wife’s cousin is Cerelle writ small. Her generally shy and agreeable nature only compounds the contrast. Still, few smallfolk would ever dare bar her path, even fewer down here with relatively comfortable employment at stake. A poor tool for the task all the same. You ignore her, intent on your craft.“… ser?” she attempts to clear her throat.>Roll out the charm and send her on her way.>A shy one? Easy. Some harmless flirting will have her wandering back to the table with purpose forgotten.>Good! You wanted a test subject for the first batch.
>>4243784>>Good! You wanted a test subject for the first batch.
>>4243784>>Roll out the charm and send her on her way.
>>4243784>Good! You wanted a test subject for the first batch.
>>4243784>>Good! You wanted a test subject for the first batch."A fresh pallet to taste my latest batch."
>>4243784>Good! You wanted a test subject for the first batch.what could possibly go wrong?
“Good! Was hoping Cerelle would send someone along. I need a fresh pallet. My lady will be honest with me, yes? My helpers here are half in love with me and so I can’t take their word,” you grin.She looks uncertain but goes along with it all the same. “I suppose a sip would not be inappropriate.”“That’s the spirit! You will make a man very happy one day I wager,” you ignore her blush and see to popping open the cask.You give it a moment and inhale deeply with closed eyes. “I’d say it could use more time, but this is one of many. Let’s see where we’re at with it, yeah?” You grab a couple of mugs and pour generously. “It is… very strong,” she coughs.“Hmm. What of the flavor?” you press, eyeing her critically.She takes another sip. “I taste spices of some sort.”“Nutmeg and cinnamon in that one,” you offer, taking a generous sip yourself.“Oh. I believe it is quite good ser, if not a touch too strong,” she offers encouragingly.“Do you lose the flavor as you drink it?” you ask.“Perhaps…”“Hmm. Might not be this batch then. Not a waste, to be sure. Points me in the right direction,” you mutter.She drinks more with you as you chat on smaller things. Your wife doesn’t know what to make of your kitchen antics. She’s been busying herself on letters and the like while having the occasional meal with your hostage, Lady Bar Emmon. Lenore doesn’t know much more beyond that and turns to talking of the castle life at your behest.“He is so myshterious,” she blurts out.“Who is ‘he’?” you ask to her apparent surprise. This girl isn’t one for holding her cups.“… Ser Byron,” she confesses.“You fancy him?” you laugh. Her silence is answer enough. “Why not say so?”“Others see me with… Alan Turnberry,” she answers somewhat glumly.“No idea who that is,” you shrug.“Boy at the Red Keep… heir to his house. A small one, but a house all the same,” she looks off into the distance, which happens to be a stone wall not too far off.>Follow your heart, that will make you happier>Elevate yourself while you can
>>4243885>Follow your heart, that will make you happierIt’s what I did
>>4243885>Follow your heart, that will make you happier
>>4243885>>Follow your heart, that will make you happier
>>4243885>>Follow your heart, that will make you happier"If you're lucky you won't have to be in charge of your own mercenary company to do it, but where's the fun in that?"
>>4243885>Elevate yourself while you can
“Follow your heart, I did. Cerelle did. I wager you’ll be happier for it,” you tell her.“You are so sure?” she asks. You catch a glimmer of that intensity you see from your Cerelle when she’s truly focused on something.“Aye. You want something, take it. Otherwise these things pass you up. The Maiden Elenei gives you the luck of not needing a mercenary company to get your way too, but where’s the fun in that?” you smile.“Thank you ser. For the kindness,” she favors you with a sloppy smile and begs her leave with a little extra energy in her step despite her tipsiness. You nod and wish her luck before getting back to ‘sampling’ the first batch. You’re not a reader, but you know numbers well enough and still have a sort of tally mark system for ingredients and their quantities. A couple more adjustments and you may just have it…Later that night, you stumble back to your bed and sink down onto the fine sheets with a sigh. “You got my cousin drunk,” Cerelle mumbles in greeting.“I did. She was a great help really. Hard to pin down the tastes of highborns. Did I wake you?” you ask.“Perhaps, if only just,” she admits.“You should rest more,” you chide. “Elsewise the child will be restless like you.”“That is a smallfolk superstition. She will be regardless,” she smiles lightly through her mess of golden locks.“Why are you up then?” “Waiting for you. If I cannot drag you from the kitchen even to the detriment of my preferred desserts, then I must wait here,” she gives you one of her looks.“Ah. Well I didn’t want to keep---”“It’s of no concern. What does concern me are how few men are left standing after recent setbacks,” she says.“I thought you weren’t of a military mind,” you tease.“I’m not. I look at this from the island’s perspective. What you do with your friends in your war councils are another matter entirely. I believe I have come up with a suitable way for you to attract more fighting men of reputable stature,” she answers.“I like the sound of that,” you smile.“House Sunglass used to do this… they would set aside lands, nothing major just small farmsteads and the like, for good fighting men to settle on with their families. They would be favored with a greater portion of the crop than their less martial neighbors. It would likely disperse some of the families that have been settling in by the dockside hamlet to further reaches of your lands, but it would be an effective and fair way to recruit more good men,” she explains. “What are your thoughts on this, Aurion?”>Yes, convert Population to Power to raise a new unit (type to be settled on tomorrow)>No, don’t convert anything right nowThanks for your patience with my brief absence and thanks for playing! The amount of population converted would depend on the unit we end up settling on tomorrow, if we're going that route. See you then!
>>4243942>Yes, convert Population to Power to raise a new unit (type to be settled on tomorrow)
>>4243942>>Yes, convert Population to Power to raise a new unit (type to be settled on tomorrow)What are you guys thinking, heavies or cavalries?
>>4243942>>Yes, convert Population to Power to raise a new unit (type to be settled on tomorrow)I like the idea of adding in Calvary. Help our units maneuvering around obstacles it isn't the best option for our immediate concerns but gives us more options longterm..and new contracts. Something to talk up at the wedding. For future contracts. We have men and horses for new contracts to all who can afford it.
I like cavalry for hammer and anvil and for numbers autism. Aurion+Vaeron+5 cadre knights+heavies+cavalry = 77 company men. Plus cavalry is the most "your dudes" a unit can get with the different horses and shit.
>>4243942>>No, don’t convert anything right now
>>4243980Cadre FateYou surround yourself with experienced fighting men who are unfailingly loyal to you and yours.Requires Persuasion 5Gain one veteran squad. A squad is a group of 10 men (see page 176). These characters have the statistics of Guards or of any unit the character’s House has invested in. This squad automatically reorganizes or rallies at the start of each round until destroyed. Should this unit be wiped out, you lose this quality and the Destiny Point you used to acquire it. While you need not pay this squad, you must feed and provide for the soldiers in it.Its been brought down to 5 men. I can only imagine these are going to be hedge knights. Or some pretty badass kids with potential. I wonder what kind of unit they'll turn into. likely calvary if they still count as a whole unit.
>Yes, convert Population to Power to raise a new unit (type to be settled on tomorrow)>>4243968>>4243978>>4243980How logistically sound is Cavalry? We're an island, everything has to transported via ship. Does adding horses bring any greater difficulty in that regard?
>>4244035I refer to this.>>4240159My Immediate concern was about meeting our end of the bargain by ferrying Manderly's men. Which if we got Calvary we could still do. I enjoy that they could double as our garrison during peace time. Which we are expecting "soon" after the dragonstone raid. So i like that we would be able to keep them as a standing force and they would actually be useable during not war times.But as a counter to that which I am not sure people would love the idea, we could go around continuing to mercenary around doing contracts to keep our men fighting and gain more money than any fucking house around. We would be looked on as the help. But the help that couldn't be pissed off. And gaining favor potentially.
>>4243978>>4244064Will we still be taking up contracts after the war is over? I don't we'll find many contracts in Westeros, so we'll have to look to Essos. Also probably Cerelle will object to putting our lives in danger for money when we have a family to look after.
>>4244167>Will we still be taking up contracts after the war is over?That's up for debate. That is what we still haven't really fully decided yet. We could do simple jobs like escorts to and forth, pirate protection for traders/ contract for the kingdom if we prove ourselves capable enough. Using enough favors and what not if we can get in the king's good graces. And you know kicking some doors down for Twyin this far from his house and his people. Or some of his contacts.Depending on how well or poor we do with the raid we could get some contracts that pay enough to keep an extra unit or two up more than our neighbors and enough to be income for our house. I myself am in favor of picking up contracts across the sea. Nice big paydays, enough to increase our families comfort level to lavish. And keep 2-3 units for offensive forces and 2 units for defense forces. While continuing to invest in our Houses income streams. So when our children are grown we have no need to continue. We could take the boy when he is old enough and wants to gain experience. And hopefully we don't die. My hope is to work hard so our kids don't have to kind of thing. We worked our asses off. So we've plenty to spend on a dowry for 3 girls if we have to. And easy and good lives for them all.
>>4244167This is always something I wondered about. We are technically under a perpetual contract with the Crown. Can we just take another contract? I don't think that Robert will particularly care, but some of his advisors might. And then there is the question of customers. If it becomes common knowledge that we are already under contract, will anyone worth working for want to hire us, when they have alternatives that don't come with the baggage we do? I know the idea of getting work like this during the time between the conclusion of Robert's Rebellion and the Greyjoy Rebellion has been brought up, but it has never been directly addressed by Boggs.Believe me, I like the idea. It is just that I don't know if it will be a good fit, considering our political situation and our aspirations. In a previous thread, I mentioned the possibility of passing time by carving out a settlement on an island in the Stepstones. Find a slaver outpost, liberate the island, and name it Freedport, or something like that. Then spend the time getting resources and peasants shipped in to the island to work it. And protect it from anyone who tries to take it out from under us. This is probably going to be the easiest way to land Vaeron.
>>4244209>carving out a settlement on an island in the Stepstones.That would mean working with cleo and shako to make sure that happens. Its a pirate haven. I doubt Shako and the third chair that raided our lands will be amenable to giving up land for their pirates freely. We would need a multiple of men and ships to make that happen. And for such a thing, we likely wouldn't be able to do it alone. Im not sure what the facts are exactly. But I do believe it's not worth the man power to take over. Kingdoms don't just just let pirate dens happen because they want to. This would take major planning a lot would have to happen. Many lives lost. I'd rather we just worked contracts where we could find them in westerous. And if we can't find them around here in Essos then. I agree that may be the clearest way to land Vaeron. But one that would take a huge toll. His kids are already considered nobility, via his mom. He has gotten an official status increase with that. And an unofficial one being our 2nd in command besides our wife having our ear. I am all for committing to our end of that deal, intermarrying our families. We could also you know have the boy marry up as we did, not into lands but Marrying him up. And if they have a 3rd kid marry our 2nd born or first born to that child. It's a real shame the boy isn't marriage age, or we could have said fuck it and married him to Lady bar emmon.
>>4244167>Also probably Cerelle will object to putting our lives in danger for money when we have a family to look after.Correct, She will. No arguing there, We will have to deal with that with a convince or a charm roll. If people still want to commit to the mercenary life with a budding family and enemies close to home. >>4244209>It is just that I don't know if it will be a good fit, considering our political situation and our aspirations.We want to be a lord which we are actively working towards even now, and our aspirations not sure what you mean by it other than lord and our motivation.Motivation: Fear (loneliness/failure)We want to be successful while have a family and love.>And then there is the question of customers. If it becomes common knowledge that we are already under contract, will anyone worth working for want to hire us, when they have alternatives that don't come with the baggage we do?I am a little lost here. Why would it become common knowledge who we are currently under contract for? Unless we are actively/knowingly undermining the king, no one has any authority over which contracts we can or can't take and unless our employer is screaming it from the rooftops. No one should know when we are under contract till after an engagement. I don't get what Baggage we come with. Anyone who would hire us, either doesn't have the men capable to do the job ie bannermen/enough military or is far/is a dark deed. We can reject any jobs which might bring us bad PR like burning villages and what not. >She’s been busying herself on letters and the like while having the occasional meal with your hostage, Lady Bar Emmon.I'd say she will know about Bar Emmons lands than our own by the time she reads through what she deems is enough.
>>4243978>>4244064cavalry makes zero sense for an island house, especially as part of a standing army. there's nowhere for the horsies to run>>4243942>Yes, convert Population to Power to raise a new unit (type to be settled on tomorrow)
>>4244304The island is bigger than you are assuming it takes a half a day for us to get to and from our castle to the docks
>>4244521oh wow it's nothingthere isn't anywhere to hide, no indirect routes to take, what does the cavalry do then? frontal charges all day erry day?
>>4244558Yes? That was a very common and viable tactic during this tech level. It's one of the few exceptions where you could get away with it. The funny thing is uncommon units like our super heavy infantry becoming more common again were what invalidated that tactic
>>4244573> what are pikemencavalry is good, but only if you can fix the enemy. we have 100 soldiers, there's just not enough frontage...
>>4244656I think we are talking about completely different scales here.
How many men will be in the cav unit? because it would need to be a decent amount for it to be worth it in opposition to other units
>>4244681...no? there are 100 men in an inf unit and 20 iirc in a cav unit
>>4244715And the heavies are 50. That's not what I meant though. I'm saying you're describing tactics that fit better with mass warfare as opposed to the smaller battles we find ourselves in. For the bigger fights, we have the support of other houses. If there's a push to stick with the heavy foot theme we have, then I guess I would be fine with personal guard as well. Just as long as they're at least veteran so they don't get splattered like the cheap units we keep wasting.
>>4244736tactics is tactics, scale-invariantyou can't do much of anything tactical if you don't have three units btwtotally agree on getting a more survivable unit, anons like to bet the farm on every die roll
>>4244758Personal guards would have 11 armor with superior armor... okay how big are these rivers on the maps? Could we use them to get around reliably?
I don't cavalry will serve us well right now especially when we have such low numbers. 20 cavalry are going to be swatted aside by almost everyone. Hammer and anvil tactics don't work with an anvil of only 50 men.We faced almost 400 men in Sharp Point in close quarters, I don't think cavalry can help with that. We should raise another infantry unit, then next go for garrison so that we can bring our archers with us for a full complement. Only then we should look towards cavalry.
>>4244304>there's nowhere for the horsies to runYou get there are island countries? Like Cuba isn't 1 mile squared. We have a whole hamlet where we have hundreds of people living. 3 domains that could in potential hold a city. Plenty of space for horses to roam. >>4245081Calvary would be just as effective as heavy infantry just can gain more ground. Just if they lose their horses they become normal infantry. They have armor they fight atop horsetop so they do more damage. I say we get the calvary as a garrison replacement
>Mounted: A Unit with this Quality is equipped with horses to give them increased mobility on the battlefield. Unlike Cavalry, however, they are still considered infantry troops and fight dismounted. At the start of the battle, the unit begins on horseback and may use their mounts movement in place of their own. As part of any Move Order, the Unit may dismount. Once dismounted, the Unit uses its own Movement for the rest of the battle. As they are not trained to fight from horseback, any Fighting Attacks they make while mounted suffer a –1D Penalty and they increase their Discipline by 6 for any Orders other than Move, Organize, Rally, Regroup, Retreat or Surrender.From the homebrew holdings. Can we just buy horses for our men to use as they need them?
Horses with little boats on their hooves. That is all.
>>4244167>>4244198>>4244209You could continue to take contracts after the war is done. Odds are there are plenty of problems that need fixing on both sides of the Narrow Sea. That's about as specific as I can get because there is a lot up in the air right now. Lots of possibilities and I have no idea where you guys will fall on two major choices in particular.>The islandEach domain is supposed to be a league of land. A league of land is about 3 miles long. Width is variable. It's a rough estimate though. I'd say the domain with the farmland is probably closer to 40-50% of the island in size. It should probably take about 1.5-2 hours to get from the docks to the castle. You could cut that in half with a roads investment.>>4245071If a river is visible on a major map, then it's a safe bet that you could get a galley up it at the very least. >>4245396You can do that.
Here's a big map to draw in your attention. Alright, I'm just going to put the vote up tonight so I can spend some time working out King's Landing and a few other details. I think veteran seems popular, so I'll go with that unless there is some major objection. Please choose one of the units below unless I'm skipping over something neat that wasn't discussed.>Infantry>Heavy Infantry>Personal Guard>Cavalry>Something else
>>4245776Hey Boggs, If Cavalry get chosen is there any added logistical issue of transporting the horses via ship?
>>4245803Anon, we have already voted on forming a personal guard. This is the vote for raising forces to replace the Second. If you are asking for a second Personal Guard, then as I understand it, the resources required for a personal guard are different from the resources required for a personal guard. >>4245776My vote is for Heavies.
>>4245810Beyond the 20 man unit taking up the same space as 100 with their mounts included, nope. Your flagship holds 100, so they can just use that.
>>4245819I'm voting on the personal guard unit type. The 20 gigachads in full plate. Not some bodyguards for the waifu.
>>4245776Alright. I'll change >>4245803To >CavalryThey are better than heavy infantry in every way and I'm not looking to go for a hat trick.
If Calvary wins are we looking to spend on wealth for better horses besides power to create the base unit? Or would we have to get that connection for better quality horses than base war horses sold anywhere first and then we bargain?
>>4245776>Personal GuardIf we're going to buy a mounted Unit, we might as well get the more Elite version for 1 power more.
>>4246087Do the personal guards get mounted tacked on?
>>4246119Personal GuardOne of the most expensive units in the game, a personal guard unit consists of expert warriors assembled to protect a commander, usually the noble that leads the force. A personal guard unit is disciplined and loyal and rarely breaks in battle.Special: A commander or sub-commander can attach himself to a personal guard unit and retain the ability to issue orders.I am not seeing anything special about personal guards and I am not seeing they have Calvary. Other than possibly making it so that they can make really complicated orders. Or march into death with the -6 discipline modifier. Considering our warfare is at 4 I would say they aren't worth the extra unit of power for 30 less men. For logistics sure it is worth it. But I'd rather save the 1 power for 30 more men IC. If we aren't power gaming to get as much on the ship as possible. But idk that just me. Aurion could swing either way on that. As logistics is extremely important for some one at sea as much as him.
>>4246130What is this weird fixation on having more men per unit? Less men = less to transport. They're rolling with the same dice either way. They're just better fighters pound for pound.It's baffling as to why anyone would pick heavy infantry. They are objectively worse than cavalry and they take up much more space than personal guard. Is it supposed to be some sort of lukewarm middle ground or do people just not get the differences here?
>>4246167>What is this weird fixation on having more men per unit? Less men = less to transport. They're rolling with the same dice either way. They're just better fighters pound for pound.I get you, mechanically they are the same. Dice wise per say, but I am just thinking IC if 1 resources LESS gained me 30 MORE men. That means more boots on the ground. I might be thinking to much into the appearance of 50 men vs 20 men charging at you and the effects that causes. If we are going for more efficient yes personal guard beats out heavies. As it's 20 men I believe that fight as strong as heavy infantry. And fight about as hard as calvary - the horses. But gives us more free space compared to both. I like heavies compared to personal guard is all. At least the way I see it is Calvary is trained to fight off horses. Not sure if these apply exactly-When mounted on a war-trained steed, you may add your Animal Handling rank as bonus dice on your Fighting tests.-When you perform the Trample maneuver, you substitute your Animal Handling rank for your Fighting rank on your attack.As well as theseMounted AttacksA mounted attack occurs whenever you attack from the back of a steed. Fighting from horseback provides a variety of advantages, including enhanced mobility, the advantage of height, and if the mount is trained for war—the steed’s own hoof and bite attacks. When riding a steed, you gain the following benefit:-Use the mount’s Movement in place of your own.-Gain +1B on Fighting tests made to attack non-mounted opponents.When riding a steed trained for war, you gain the following benefits:-If your mount doesn’t move during your turn, increase your damage on a successful Fighting test by +2.I think these make things messy. So I can see plenty of these things either staying or being taken out. No idea, I've never really seen these in action. Just read these but I imagine these are a good reason to keep Calvary all the bonuses.
>>4246190>At least the way I see it is Calvary is trained to fight off horses.*on horses. So we then get the other benefits.Once they get off they are as good as regular old infantry.
>>4245776>CavalryIf i remember correctly, both Cerelle and her father complained about the fact that we didn't have proper horseman on our last time at King's Landing right? Cavalry migh help with our reputation later on if it's the case>Cavalry
>>4246042You’ll need to meet with a buyer shame House Malroy just got btfo in the war.>>4246087>>4246119Personal guard are infantry unless you’re looking to add an extra keyword.>>4246190I would never use the animal handling rank as bonus dice because it’s pure wank, but the rest is fair game.>>4246212You’re right, they did mention that. It’s in their blood. Literally.
>>4246420Ah, my apologies about the confusion. I'll keep my vote, but that's good to know.
I'm gonna swap this >>4245833 vote with Cavalry
>>4246457I'd say change over over to cavalry.20 unit team of cavalry men. Basically personal guard on horses. -When mounted on a war-trained steed, you may add your Animal Handling rank as bonus dice on your Fighting tests. This is dead. But still seems like many new options and for a commander these are nice options.-Use the mount’s Movement in place of your own.-Gain +1B on Fighting tests made to attack non-mounted opponents.-When you perform the Trample maneuver, you substitute your Animal Handling rank for your Fighting rank on your attack.-If your mount doesn’t move during your turn, increase your damage on a successful Fighting test by +2. Last thing isn't as strong as it seems cause its added to the roll. Not multiplied by degree, but still nice easy 2 damage. Attacking from higher ground is a nice makes sense addition, gravity and what not. Also you guys interested in a trained garrison, we should still have enough to buy To leave them alongside our archers back at home.
Man, we've been fucked by the roll for casualties twice now. Never played DnD before, but I have to say, that mechanic is broken.
>>4246531The dice gods are fickle anon.
>>4245351> cavalry as a garrison replacementyes let's use 40 men on horses to hold down a fortification, what could go wrong
>>4245776> Something elselet's do a real tercio, 150 men, mixed archers, swordsmen and pikemencan flavor it with saying there's a hodgepodge of equipment left over from previous troops, also it would reflect the fact we're raising locals who may have already a favored weaponwe can still fit two troops in two boats, if you will allow it Boggs of coursewe will also have a flexible unit that's probably pretty resilient as wellidk what it would cost though
>>4246597What, is it going to float away?
>>4247139no, it's just that the horsies are too big to go upstairs to the battlements and the men too few to effectively man said battlements
>>4246714I mentioned a way to do that with orders at the end of the last thread. I'm not entirely opposed to working out an actual mixed unit, but it's going to have to be done carefully to avoid either breaking the system or wasting time on a wet rag. We'll see what I can come up with. Maybe in the future you could mix something up with the current crossbowmen since there seems to be some unease with keeping a defense force that focuses solely on ranged combat.
>>4245776>Heavy Infantryjust caught up, good stuff
>>4246597*20 men that could run down the enemy.>>4247236Think we might get a run today? Or still busy with work/life?
>>4247772There may be a delay or two, but I'm all caught up and running tonight. Take care of your moms and milfs, burgers. And the rest of you too, just because.
>>4247791Thanks. You going to close it and have us vote on training level before? That way we don't get stuck on that for 4 more hours once you start?
>>4247862I'm skipping over it entirely unless there's a major push to grab a lower training level than veteran (I don't allow outright purchases of elite and there were a few that wanted a more trained unit). I mentioned it in the vote prompt and no one has voiced any objections, so it looks like we are good to go. This may have been the most painless new unit vote yet.
“I could use more good men and it seems fair as you say. Let’s move ahead with it,” you tell her before you pull her close to sleep. You call your war council together the next day to break the news. Warrick Flint, Malaq, Vaeron, Trios, and Ser Byron Yew are in attendance. “How’re the men?” you start.Warrick Flint and Trios exchange a look. The latter looks like he’s been sleeping less than usual and defers to your master of arms. Not a great surprise, Trios has a kind soul buried somewhere under all that fucking grit. Seeing so many brothers lost would cut him deeply, perhaps most of all.“Passing well, those that made it, ser,” Warrick reports in his drawling northman accent. “Had to give allowances out to some that’s lost limbs, but they’ll be well sorted and looked after as you say.”“Second lost more than come back,” Trios adds. His rough voice is tinged in melancholy, but you know he understands all the same. He’s been with you since the start. “I know the Second’s not going to be marching again. Even so, we’ll be needing a replacement… one regiment just won’t cut it and Ser Byron’s lads aren’t company men,” you put it out there, then wait for their thoughts. You know what needs to be done, but it’s good to let them speak all the same. “Whoever we bring in, they’d need to be blooded men. Hate to say it, but these fresh faced sign-ups can’t handle our pace,” Vaeron says before shooting an apologetic look towards Warrick, who gives no reaction despite the fact that a good number of the losses were tagalongs from the northmen host at Duskendale. The Second before the last iteration were your freshest men recruited from about Slaver’s Bay on your return westward.
>>4248048“Aye. Not sure what it is, but there’s been a fair share of sink or swim of late. Much as I’d like to say we should slow down, I’d sooner see others step up. It’s a fair ask, no?” you propose to a chorus of assents.“Grab some solid veterans in proper plate and we’ll all be the better for it,” Vaeron suggests.“If I may?” Ser Byron offers quietly. You nod. “Your men are somewhat… one note, ser. I have no doubt they are effective, or you would not be here, but I have to wonder at how they stand against massed archers and cavalry. Both of which are exceedingly common on this side of the narrow sea.”“Put up shields. Wait. Kill,” Trios answers.“Just so. It’s served us well so far. Still, I’d say all of you have the right of it. Proper blooded men in fine plate. Something to give better answer to other tactics. Might be that a score of our lads on warhorses would do it,” you tell them all.“A score of Stormbringers on warhorses’d have any lot of archers shitting their breeches,” Vaeron chuckles. “I like it.”“Aye. Could work,” Trios agrees. Warrick nods along. “Horses?! Captain. Captain, think about ships. Horses shit, Captain,” Malaq pleads. “So do you last I checked. Why do you care? You’re going to clean it?” you smirk.“No… that is oarsmen,” Malaq quickly answers. “… ah. Point. Hm. Horsemen prickly on pay. Ask too much, this is known.” “They’ll be given some leeway on small farmsteads. My lady wife has the details worked out. Not landing them or anything, but they’ll have something for families and such. Should keep them motivated, yeah? We’ll give priority to company lads and any islanders who know how to ride,” you explain. “A fair take. My Lord Manderly’s done much the same and his forebears before him too. Must be passing a hundred landed knights at this point,” Warrick says. “I’ll have Marq on the armor. Will you be wanting a set yourself, ser?”>Can’t hurt, grab some half plate to better match your men.>Nah, stick with the scale mail.Sorry for the delay!
>>4248054>>Nah, stick with the scale mail.
>>4248054>Nah, stick with the scale mail.
>>4248054>>>Nah, stick with the scale mail.Mention looking for shield what did we decide on by the way?
>>4248095Also this. Mention we need a shield and an artist
We should do a thing for the people that died in battle maybe carve their names on the mast of the ship or something? Anyone think of a figurehead?
>>4248108It would be a nice gesture, but it is awfully sentimental for a group of mercenaries. Also, next to none of them can actually read.
Writing!>>4248095Nah, but we're about to. I wanted to give you the chance at the plate before throwing more bulk options at you.
>>4248108How about the Weeping Lady of Lys?
>>4248117I'll give you the point on not knowing how to read/write but remembering fallen brothers isn't a bad thing
>>4248130I was actually thinking of sirens but that wouldn't be bad
“Nah, I’m fond of my scales. Sides, it’d detract from my image if I go waddling around in steel like the rest of you mortals. A shield’s enough for me,” you grin.Warrick snorts. “How’s that play into your image?”“Quite well, I’d say. I’ll have painted up with someone too pretty to scratch. You would have me go about without a beautiful woman on my arm?”“Oh, far from it, ser. Just remember not to go fondling it when you ride into battle. It’d give the archers fits,” he slaps his knee at his own joke.You let them have their laughs and then adjourn the meeting with purpose agreed upon. Your flagship, which could use a less… Reach-like name, will have a deck set aside for warhorses. It used to be used by the Hightowers for mercantile purposes as well, so it has a ramp for the loading and offloading of goods which should suit your needs just fine. The First can stake their claim on your new dromond, and you’ll still be left with the three galleys for coastal defense or screening. True to your word, you head down to Marq’s forge to see to the shield after you check on your beloved casks. “Marq! I’ve more work for you!” you call out.He steps away from his prentices and wipes some soot and sweat from his brow. “Aye, ser? What’ll it be? Heard from Warrick on some more plate. For horse?”“Aye. That matters?”“Some. Foot’re takin’ some changes in some places. Joints an the like,” he pats his elbow for emphasis. “Huh. I’m more looking for a shield. And some artistry at that,” you add.“Aye? My Lily’s fine an artist as I’ve ever seent. What’ll it be?” he asks with a smile. Shield:>Round Shield (+3 CD)>Heater Shield (+5 CD, 1 Bulk)>Tower Shield (+7 CD, 2 Bulk, Unwieldy from horseback)The painting:>Keep it classy>Show some skin
>>4248185>Round Shield (+3 CD)>Show some skinPaint your wife
>>4248185Heater shieldShow some skin>>4248187I like this idea but maybe just hint at it being her?
>>4248185>Tower Shield.>Show some skin, but keep it tasteful.
>>4248185>Heater Shield (+5 CD, 1 Bulk)We are at 2 bulk. Adding 1 has no effect on movement. Might as well go for the extra defense.>Show some skinWould you expect any less from Aurion?
>>4248185>>Heater Shield (+5 CD, 1 Bulk)>Show some skinMermaid that resembles cerelle.
>>4248185>Heater shield>Show some skin>A naked mermaidOur wife probably won't appreciate her being painted naked. I was thinking a resemblance to Cleo but then Cerelle might get jealous. A mermaid is a fine compromise.
>>4248185>>Heater Shield (+5 CD, 1 Bulk)>>Show some skinIf I may propose a bit of specifics, a woman with her arm outstretched, like Adam in The Creation of Adam, but instead of God it's a flying shrike.
>>4248185>>Heater Shield (+5 CD, 1 Bulk)
>>4248185>>Heater Shield (+5 CD, 1 Bulk)>>Keep it classy
>>4248196+1>>Show some skin, but keep it tasteful.I like it.
Heater shield is a clear win. As for the art... I'll work the write-ins into it. I think I have a pretty good idea of how to do it now.
You sit down with Marq for a short while, enjoying the heat of the forge as you start throwing out your ideas for shield art. It’s been a fairly uneventful past few weeks, but you do feel as if everything is coming together nicely for your house. Your men are recovered with some of the better riders even electing to take on the challenge of fighting from the backs of warhorses. Your cavalry are coming along as well with a few veterans already out and riding at rings. Your reign of chaos in the kitchen has come to an end too, with one stand out batch that should be just about good enough for a king. It was tedious and time-consuming work at times, but a great deal of fun all the same in creating your own sort of masterpiece. Perhaps this is why craftsmen do what they do. Of course, you’ll need to see about getting your own sort of artisan in here if you’re to see any consistency come from your chaos. While your men will no doubt enjoy the rejected batches all the same, your approach at present is far from efficient. There is one person you feel you haven’t seen to enough recently. Your wife. She’s busied herself with the finer details of keeping your house in order while also entertaining your “guest” and sorting through the sack of letters. So, you take her on an outing.“Is milady comfortable?” you put on a rough common accent and get a half-hearted glare for your troubles.“You must not speak that way. Even out here,” she chides.“Too convincing, eh?” you smile as you lead her horse by the reigns out on the grassy fields near your castle. Her palfrey she brought with her from the mainland is far too well-bred to make any erratic movements, but there’s no sense in risking things as your child grows stronger.“Not precisely… your accent is a touch off from what I would have expected. It is rather hard to place,” she admits.“I spent near on half my life traveling out near the end of the world. I’d be surprised if I still sounded like some farmer round the bend,” you shrug.“Perhaps that does work to your advantage,” she allows as you continue your idle pace through the fields.“Hmm. It will storm,” you sniff the air.“How can you be sure?” she asks curiously.“You just know these things,” you wave it off. “Any road, I’d say summer is near upon us. The storms herald it. A fine time to bring forth a child, no?”“Yes… but what do you mean, Aurion? About the storms?”“Spring to Summer, Summer to Fall. That brings the storms. I thought you were supposed to be the clever one,” you grin.
>>4248361“Deep Den has more predictable weather…” she trails off, looking to the sky again with concern as the first drops fall. “Aurion…”“Right, right. Let’s find you somewhere dry. Just a little rain, so it shouldn’t trouble us much,” you say as you lead her to a nearby tree thick with leaves.“Would you help me down? Apples is a good horse, but I would rather not tempt fate. My father’s sister passed from falling from her horse during poor weather,” she pats her horse gently.“Sorry to hear that… but Apples?” you try not to smirk.“I… I was younger when I named her. What is wrong with it? I should think it is a fine enough name, is it not?” she looks faintly embarrassed as she gets all defensive in the face of your stifled laughter.“It’s just… unexpected. Cute, even. Just didn’t think it was your style,” you smile as you take her hand and help her down.“You are not the only one… I do try to be social where it is appropriate, but it can be hard to relate at times… listen to me. I suppose it sounds absurd to you,” she frowns.“Not at all. Makes a bit of sense, doesn’t it? Like trying to talk to a drunk when you’re dead sober,” you put in easier words.“That does seem to be precisely the case more often than not,” she fixes you with one of her looks, but you do see some of the playfulness in her deep blue eyes.“For good cause! I’ve a good batch that this king’ll appreciate if he has any taste. I’d say he does off his preference of women alone,” you eye her. “Though I’d say I got the better blonde.”“You are too kind…” she smiles. “Although I would say the king’s taste in women have nothing to do with this match. In any case, Lady Cersei is the one you should be more concerned with. She is known to be quick to anger and slow to forgive amongst my circles.”
>>4248363“Seemed nice enough at the wedding,” you shrug. “What of your work of late?”“The letters you brought me were an absolute mess to say the least, but they have proven fruitful all the same. We have a few correspondences between Massey and Bar Emmon that paint a rather ugly picture of their intentions. It seems this uncle was far too invested in the late Lord Maldon’s rise. Combined with what Lady Cassandra has mentioned, it is damning enough,” she concludes.“Ah good. So, she speaks to you?” you ask.“To a point. She is rather guarded. I couldn’t blame her considering she stands to lose much in all of this as well. To make known the full extent of the plots could see her ruined just as well as House Massey,” Cerelle says.“That’s stupid, isn’t it? She’s done nothing… right?” you ask.“As far as I can tell, her part in all of this had little to do beyond her worth as a bride to seal the pact. It makes little difference. The crown would likely come down hard if everything lines up as I believe it should, and she is what remains as the face of her house. She holds traitor’s blood now and it’s likely that she will be held responsible. You know, she asks after you far more than I would consider appropriate under present circumstances,” she looks to you with exasperation.“Haven’t even kissed her, so don’t look to me. Hells, that might be half the problem. Can you imagine getting rescued by me and not getting so much as a taste? You of all should have some sympathy for her,” you grin at her beneath the tree.She makes to reply, but then a strange look crosses her face and her hands shoot down to cradle her stomach protectively. “What? What is it?” you put a hand on her shoulder as she seats herself in the grass beneath the tree, unsure of what else to do.“Aurion, I think she’s quickened!” she exclaims. She takes your hand and places it over her stomach. You wait, uncertain, and then you feel it. A kick, faint but very real. Your child. You laugh and enjoy the moment together amidst the rain.>More tomorrow!
>>4248366You worried me with the baby there BoggsWe need to get a team of Doctors/Maesters for the birth
>>4248366We don't even have a proper maester! And as far as I remember we are not important enough for a maester to attend to us in King's Landing. Perhaps her father can help?
>>4248378>>4248414>MaestersWe don't have the money for it. With what daddy dearest just pulled. I wouldn't want to ask him for a favor. And I doubt he would be open to the idea. And given how much it affected our wife her fathers shut down of our plans since she suggested it, I would rather she not feel like her family is treating us terribly. So how about we just not involve ourselves with them. Lets earn a few things ourselves before we start calling in favors from dear old dad. Lets try and slay at Dragonstone. Get that lordship.Get enough wealth to finish our current investments and have a small surplus.Smelter % an industry at/around our hamlet.Not trying to jinx it, but babies deliver themselves. Yeah having a doctor or a mid wife is nice. But Babies are born pretty much by themselves. Complications happen. But I am sure we could likely find a wet nurse and a mid wife to put on payroll in our domains. I like the idea of a Maester. Lets just not rush into things. >but muh babyI get the concern. And its well placed, just saying don't over react. We haven't heard anything about her being unhealthy and based on her linage they do just fine historically.
I think brushing off valid concerns for a family-oriented MC and going "muh baby" is needlessly argumentative and in bad faith.
>>4248518I was just talking about getting one not even as a favor I'm sure we can charm somebody else into helping us one way or another
>>4248908I seem to remember something about a septon, and septae
>>4248963Yup. Cerelle from a thread or 2 ago:>I trust your Septon Domerick will be sending along a septa or two as well to escort our new spiritual advisor. I had noticed you have no maester to speak of and as much as I trust in the Mother’s deliverance, I do not intend to birth our child with prayer alone to aid meIt still makes sense for Aurion in particular to be concerned given his past. If you guys want to try to work something else out in King's Landing, then you're welcome to.
>>4248963Septon should be arriving any day now. I would imagine they have some training. But I've no idea, could go either way. It's listed as <1 month so he should be here shortly. Boggs if you don't mind answering questions.Would glass work industry give us any synergy with our crystals for the church?Or would that require a specific artisan?I tried going back to find it. Couldn't find ranks for faith systems, or much info on the faith system at all but I do know we currently stand at 63/343. I didn't google it at all just previous threadsIf we spend our faith, do we have to keep it at that threshold to maintain our "rank"?
>>4249073You're picking him up in King's Landing in probably the next couple of sessions. Glassworks won't affect the crystals. The only thing I could see for that would be an artisan jewelcrafter. You don't spend the faith points, it's just a measure of how close you are to the next rank.
>>4249095Interesting, So the only benefits we derive come from the rank and faith points can't be spent towards say cheaper faith based purchases? Its just you're this rank, we offer these things cheaper?So our only real way to increase faith "passively" would be to upgrade the mines?Mine>Mine Complex KARRequirements: Mine & Hills or Mountains Investment: 10 WealthTime: 2d6+8 MonthsBonus: House Fortunes +2 (Basic or Valuable)/House Fortunes +3 (Rich)Description: A Mine Complex is a more complicated set-up, with multiple shafts, a trained workforce and complicated ore pits.ImprovementsExtended Mineworks KARRequirements: Mine Complex & Hills or Mountains Investment: 15 WealthTime: 2d6+16 MonthsBonus: Wealth +2 (Basic)/Wealth +4 (Valuable)/Wealth +6 (Rich)ImprovementsAdvanced Mineworks KARRequirements: Extended Mineworks & Hills or Mountains Investment: 20 WealthTime: 2d6+24 MonthsBonus: Double both House Fortune & Wealth Bonuses conferred by previous improvementsDescription: An Advanced Mineworks is a semi-industrialized location, using human or water powered cranes and complex sifters, advanced ore recovery methods, and a healthy dose of old-fashioned labor.We should get that smelter up asap.
>>4249120Yeah, it's all about the rank. I just put a doc up in the quest drive with a breakdown including the first 3 ranks. If you wanted to tithe more stuff, then you're welcome to do so. Gifting them armor from a master craftsman would have them clapping their hands in excitement given they do try to sponsor knights on occasion. That'll need to wait until you get a smelter up and running. Or again, a jewelcrafter. Don't you know one of those? You can also afford the smelter right now if you spend glory points.
Is there going to be a tourney at the wedding? We can have Vaeron participate in the melee and earn some wealth and glory for himself.
>>4249134Black market, bribing the faith, nepotism, consorting with pirates and high profile murder in people's own homes... Are we going to lead a mafia by this time next year?
>>4249393a-are you saying we should be running a protection racket as well? bullying the weak into paying a subscription fee to benefit from our services in case of need?because that's what it sounds like you're saying.>>4249375there should be I guess
>>4249441It would be a terrible shame if our ships weren't able to patrol their waters...
>>4249477Its funny cause we have the pirate connection for that so....
>>4249393Hey the Criminal Syndicate holding is pretty good.
>>4249134Nice thanks for the info dump. I can't speak for others but I would be interested in better horses for our cavalry. So we should spend the wealth there once we have made a connection to someone selling good horses there. It'd be fine if it takes us awhile to get them we just need them before the next battle we attend. idk if you've thought of this yet.But whats the interest rate like pre-bargain for regular contact that might supply a loan vs a faith based loan?And is it just fine to bargain for faith loans?What do you all think of taking out a loan to kick start some projects? Like pick up mills and find a trade deal for our extra food production that we've stock piled. Possibly with the loaner
>>4249375There isn't. Tourneys are still banned in the city until after Dragonstone is dealt with. There will be a big one in a few months to make up for it.>>4249557Basically, you can borrow up to 10 wealth from them. If you don't pay it back in full in 6 months, you start getting hit with steep late fees. It's their way of collecting interest without direct usury.
You departed for the city along with Cerelle, Vaeron, and your lovely new shield. Janesa made her excuses to stay behind. It seems she’s had enough with the city, and she has reminded you that her position is precisely to manage your affairs in your absence. Lady Bar Emmon is along as well, a sort of extra gift for the wedding… but you’re more interested in your shield at present. “Must it be so…” Cerelle waves her hand, at a rare loss for words, which only widens your smile.“So… what? I’d say it’s tasteful. It’s art,” you tell her.“She is indecent. And she greatly resembles me…” your wife protests while her handmaidens cover their mouths in shock and amusement both.You look her up and down critically. “You don’t have a tail. I’m sure I’d remember that.”“Turning me into a fictional creature does not change the fact that I am clearly the subject of this piece,” she argues.Now it’s your turn for surprise. Vaeron as well, as you share a mutual look of shock with him. “What fictional creature?”“The tail. It is meant to represent a mermaid, is it not?” she asks.You share another confused look with Vaeron. “Mermaids are real,” you tell her slowly.“Is this a jest? They are a mere tale told to children,” she looks to her handmaidens for support, but even they look uncertain in the face of your certainty.“See, this is why some say women are bad luck aboard ships,” you sigh, shaking your head. “Waiting til we’re out over open sea and then denying the existence of those beneath it, provoking their wrath with your taunts. I thought you were supposed to be the rational one.”“Have you ever seen a mermaid, dear husband?” she presses.“… I might have? Hard to be sure, really.”“Unlikely. Because they. Are. Not. Real.”“Badgers aren’t real,” you counter.“I beg your pardon?” she blinks.“I’ve never seen a badger. Vaeron, have you seen a badger?” you ask.“Can’t say I have,” he shrugs.“See. Never seen one. Must not be real,” you smugly tell her.She leaves off muttering about logic and the like while you go back to examining the shield. There’s the shrike of your coat of arms up in the top corner as a nod to your house. The rest is dominated by a buxom blonde mermaid with an impressive tail. She reaches towards the shrike across her ample breasts with one arm, covering the naughtiest bits. Tasteful like. Besides, mermaids don’t need clothes under the sea. Everyone knows that.The city looks much the same as you last left it. That is, aside from the increased presence of ships visible on the south side, fat bellied merchant cogs and sleek warships alike. It seems the new fleet is coming along nicely enough. >Can I get 5d6 for Warfare (Strategy)? DC 18
Rolled 2, 4, 5, 2, 3 = 16 (5d6)>>4249802
Rolled 3, 2, 1, 5, 5 = 16 (5d6)>>4249802
Rolled 2, 1, 1, 2, 6 = 12 (5d6)>>4249802One more try.
Rolled 1, 4, 3, 2, 2 = 12 (5d6)>>4249802
There’s something about the ships that sparks a thought in your mind, an insight of sorts, but you can’t quite bring it to bear. A mildly irritating occurrence, like an itch in your boot. You’d like to consider yourself a great military mind as so many might of a man in your position, but your strength has always been more in leading than planning. Chaos has always fueled your ascendancy rather than drawn out cunning. From paymaster to captaincy to your own fiefdom and all of the contracts in between. Even your choice in wife in its own way. It upset the order of things at the very least. You let your thoughts wander to her instead and resolve to go bed her while all the docking takes place. Best to have a clear head when dealing with the newest Crab.Best way to pass the time really. Cerelle’s litter had to be prepared on the dock, the wagon-like contraption pulled by two horses and just barely snug enough for the four ladies present to squeeze in while you and the others flank it on horseback. Your wife would no doubt prefer to ride her own palfrey, but she confessed she’s been feeling increasingly off balance of late.You take the short trip inwards on the north side of the city, a route that is becoming increasingly familiar. What isn’t familiar is the Celtigar manse. It is in far better shape than when last you left it, though the previously destroyed wing is still partially under repair. New exotic flowers bloom out along the hedges separating the grounds from the dirty city beyond. You even recognize a fountain from Bloodstone…Someone has clearly made herself comfortable. The new guards are a testament to that as well. They recognize you readily enough and escort you inside while others take care of the horses. This is where you see the biggest change. The various rare, and probably illicit, items from about Cleo’s Bloodstone seat have found their way here, greatly enhancing the lavishness of the manse from its previously picked over and looted state. You can see even your highborn ladies are impressed. You’re led into the parlor where Eddison and the new Lady Celtigar wait. Lady Constance as well, but Lady Annara is absent. Lady Cleomnestria Celtigar is announced. It seems she wasn’t simply toying with the name in her letter.“Aurion. So good of you to come. Ahh, and your lady wife, no? Who else? Do come sit,” Cleo calls out, half draped across her new husband.>You have much to discuss with her, preferably alone>Speak openly instead rather than sneaking around
>>4249898>>Speak openly instead rather than sneaking around
>>4249898>Speak openly instead rather than sneaking around
Can I get 3 rolls of 4d6 for Awareness (Empathy)? DC 16.
>>4249802>“I’ve never seen a badger. Vaeron, have you seen a badger?” you ask.I just read the whole thing now this was magical. I really enjoyed that, and the playfulness of that whole interaction. it was great thanks for that. I brought people over to my monitor read this whole post. they found it entertaining aswell.
Rolled 4, 4, 3, 6 = 17 (4d6)>>4249928
Rolled 4, 6, 4, 6 = 20 (4d6)>>4249928
Rolled 4, 5, 1, 1 = 11 (4d6)>>4249928
“My congratulations to you both,” you offer while beckoning Cerelle to sit along with Vaeron and Lady Bar Emmon, who pauses to warmly embrace Lady Constance. “Most you’ve met before, if only briefly. My wife, Lady Cerelle, and this one is Lady Cassandra Bar Emmon. She’s the ruler of Sharp Point now and here to be welcomed back into the King’s Peace.”That draws out some surprise, even from Lady Constance who didn’t know of the fate of the brothers Bar Emmon. All except for one. Your eyes are on Cleo, beautiful and dangerous as ever, and her icy blue eyes that twinkle with amusement.“But you already knew that,” you add as you pour a drink. “Caught me,” the new lady of the house admits with a mischievous smile.“How?” Cerelle demands.“My lady already knows the answer to that,” Cleo says lazily. “Your husband keeps a very loud house. I can hear them from here. As can others, I hear.”“You have spies in my household. You admit this,” Cerelle quietly seethes.“If you want to call them my spies, do as you wish. Those rules are for other people. It matters not,” she waves it off dismissively. “I have no personal members of my household within your walls. I simply listen to what some may say. It is easy if my lady knows where to look.”>I’d like those sources (Convince)>Best not to dive too deep on that road
>>4249973>>I’d like those sources (Convince)
>>4249973>I’d like those sources (Convince)
Let's roll it. Can I get 3 rolls of 7d6 for Convince?By the Seven, are you a Paragon for Charm? How did this happen?
Rolled 3, 1, 6, 1, 5, 4, 5 = 25 (7d6)>>4250017Well thats embarrassing >>4250020hopefully I get it this time. Lol
Rolled 4, 6, 3, 6, 2, 4, 6 = 31 (7d6)>>4250017
Rolled 2, 5, 6, 4, 5, 1, 1 = 24 (7d6)>>4250017>>4250023nice 29
vs a 21. 2 degrees. Writing!
>>4250035I wouldn't have thought it would be that high since she isn't considered an enemy. But the more I thought of it, why would anyone give out their ways of gathering information. And it just having a really high dc because we might achieve it based on our specialty. If we hadn't been so focused it would have never been even an option. I am interested to see which options come about because Aurion believes he may be able to convince or charm those and succeed those who would never have possibly given anyone else the chance.
“I’d like those sources,” you toss out there.“My, bold as ever,” Cleo states in a way that brings even more tension into the room. It’s hard not to get the feeling that few, if any, don’t know of your history by now. If not for Eddison’s predilections, this might’ve ended out in the yard.“Don’t care what you call it either. You know I go where I please. Just make the introductions,” you tell her.“And you know I would not be who I am if I was so open-handed. You know what they say about loose lips, Captain,” she responds with a twitch of a smile. “Perhaps Lady Cassandra and I should take our leave and catch up?” Lady Constance offers.“No, darling. Stay. Watch, listen. This way you learn,” Cleo tells her before nudging her husband to go pour more wine for his sister. The young master of the house is doing fairly well taking all this in stride, but he does look a touch uncomfortable at some of Cleo’s contact. Curious, how that whole thing works.“There’s a halfway decent chance your contacts will favor me any road. I’m the likeable sort,” you point out.“So you are. Now is that a point in your favor or a mark against you,” Cleo counters.“It’s whatever I want it to be,” you state.She stares at you over an uncomfortably long silence, at least for the rest of the bystanders. You both have reached this point in your fates from sheer force of personality and no small amount of spilled blood. No one else in the room can claim an understanding of that, not even your clever wife. But you do see an understanding in Cleo’s piercing gaze.“My sources in Rambton are dead. Let us have that out first,” she bluntly states.“Seems likely,” you nod.“And now you want more sources.”“I do.”“You will have them. That and more. If you meet my price,” she decides.“I made your introductions, did I not?” you ask.“To those spineless old men. Will you be selling me a lovely farm in Valyria next? I no longer care for their war,” she says.“They did say---”“That they would approach me later. To which I will refuse them. Fair play, no? I am reinvesting elsewhere.”“Such as?”“Legacy,” she says with a pointed look. “A child. A child that will have the very best of this world. What can you do to ensure that?”Well? First thing that comes to mind is a future betrothal, but I’d remind you’re already one promise in for that. Anything else is up to you guys. >A marriage between her child and yours.>A specific something elseLeaving this open over night. Thanks for playing!
>>4250160Taks for running cousin BoggsOof, honestly I want to arrange good marriages for our kids, not sure about Celtigar. Maybe we can talk about trade? Or land that we can conquer?
>>4250160>A marriage between her child and yours.I'm torn on this. I don't like the promises before births, but I get why that would matter for a house still in its founding stages. Celtigar is an old name so that helps. Ok. But I'd go a step further and specify her daughter to our son. She's a product of slave eugenics for beauty and Celtigar is a Valyrian house. Do the lad a favor. Otherwise no deal.
>>4250160>>A specific something elseA legacy alongside our own rise, we will be raised to be a lord. It only a matter of time. We've been making moves to position ourselves to become one of repute with our coming plans. We can tell her about our plan for Massey since she may know. And of our new found ward. But as far as her child, promise to set her up with her child as our personal Squire come the time, and raise him to a position of power come said time. Or to squire under house Lydden. We could likely manage that.We could also make the vague promise that if the child manages to win the heart of one of our children while they squire or attend our lands, we will not be a roadblock, but we can not promise more. We can be clear that we've promised the hand of ONE of our children to Vaeron. We will not wantonly promise the other for pennies. >>4250189>Or land that we can conquerPass, gaining more land is going to become a bitch. And even if we do I would rather we create a banner men house for Vaeron and one of his kids. If it gets to that point I would rather it get dark, and promise her to act with her while the Celtigars are out of the kings peace and help her slaughter on the island as Pirates. So Edison inherits Celtigar's lordly position. But I doubt that would go over just fine with Edison. Or even just Capture the main family whole, with the head of house and the heir. As a way to provide the king with a replacement to the lord of the house. Celtigars SIDE branch, to a marriage to our MAIN branch hard pass. And she now taints his blood with her reputation as we taint our wife's. Its a downward marriage for our child, no question. They are unlanded knights with a manse and much wealth is all. Just remember Cerelle barely wants 2 kids she isn't likely to shell out a 3. Especially only for that child's future to be "ruined" from the get. >>4250193>She's a product of slave eugenics for beauty and Celtigar is a Valyrian house. Do the lad a favor. Otherwise no deal.I like the idea, but it's a huge jump down from what he should be pulling. Our firstborn son should easily be able to gain an attractive noblewoman. He will come from a landed lord where he will be heir. An attractive valaryian isn't much of a good deal. Especially when its on it's best day a little worse than a lateral move. I am just saying we should look for alternatives. We are on our way up, and we currently stand way above her and her husband's station. We could promise the boy a squire ship under Vaeron or under our self. If we don't get slaughtered We should be beloved by the faith and feared by any man who would hear our army rushing to his doorstep. We sell our self not our children. Play on that hard. Comitting to actually teach the boy, alongside a promise to not be a roadblock and even help the boy/girl reach beyond his station when we can. As we have with no help.
>>4250216>A legacy alongside our own rise, we will be raised to be a lord. It only a matter of time. That's not specific at all. That's bullshitting. I don't want to lose out on opportunities because we keep treating her like an ignorant little girl. Squiring is nothing too. Way too minor. She gets a tangible rise if there is a betrothal. That's the whole point.>If we don't get slaughtered We should be beloved by the faith and feared by any man who would hear our army rushing to his doorstepShe has more men than we do. Like it's not even close. And we are only the first rank with the faith. I'm open to other ideas but you are suggesting we promise her air rather than giving her anything.
>>4250160>A specific something elseWe already made a betrothal for one of our children, and we still haven't convinced cerelle of having more than two. I would rather not make another marriage proposal for something like this. Is not worth the price.Maybe we could take her child as a squire or a warden? From what i remember from the books, it still is a good opportunity and a common way to make alliances
>>4250216My dude, we are a landed Knight even in the original quest it like pulling teeth to get people to sign the petition. Aurion's grandchildren might get to be in a position to petition for one but not us
>>4250160Hey Boggs are we gonna have any timeskips later on?
>>4250232>She has more men than we do. Like it's not even close. And we are only the first rank with the faith. I'm open to other ideas but you are suggesting we promise her air rather than giving her anything.She can't keep command over her men as a nobility easily. Who knows she might be able to. She will only be able to keep crews very loyal to her. Who knows what that reduces her actual men willing to fight for her. And If they have to do honest work who will work with her, a known pirate? Scorned by ALL in westerous. And known as a pirate in many circles. She needs connections we have. We have held our end of all of our bargains. She knows that, we've held our end to everything we did as best we could. >And we are only the first rank with the faith.Yeah that's now, even with the most basic of math. If we keep tithing the church for 10 more years, thats 4 years before the child becomes a squire we should be rank 3. A Rank 3: Protector of the Faith about 50 existing currently. Who is to say say in the several years he leaves us for bigger and better things we can't become a rank 4. At tithing what we are currently doing for the next 10 years if we don't skip a beat it would add 840 faith points. That would be some serious dedication to not using those assets else where. so 840+ 63 = 903I would say having her boy squire under someone with that title would open up many opportunities for her. I can't think of a good plan as of now thats clear to me with out ruining our children's future. I am fine with Vaeron's kid marrying our own line in some way if we can't get him landed. I can't support being raised with Lydden to then go back down with the pirate and a secondary branch of a lordly house for either of our potentially two children. >>4250246>Aurion's grandchildren might get to be in a position to petition for one but not usNahIt might take some negotiating, but Manderly would likely push for it for us. With all this cooperating we are doing with him. We just may have to do some bartering for trading favors and what not. Using our glory that we should attain from dragonstone and our relationship to the king as his personal booze dealer. I've no idea how much bringing a lord's house is worth into the king's peace but we've effectively done that with Lady Bar Emmon.And Bringing the treachery to light for house Massey. Has got to be worth some MAJOR fucking point infront of the kingdom. I would honestly say even as we stand now with out Lydden support in anyway, we could likely make that happen.
>>4250232>hat's not specific at all. That's bullshitting. I don't want to lose out on opportunities because we keep treating her like an ignorant little girl. Squiring is nothing too. Way too minor.I am just saying she has learned that opportunities come rarely and she has to take a chance on us as well. She took a chance to stay a couple weeks with us. Now she married an ancient house. On the wrong side of the war but still, she has married into a highborn house with history. With out us bringing her to meet the old men. Her staying at our contacts manseUs suggesting the marriageGiving her the insider information that he is a sword swallower. You don't think she used that info?And using us as a good connection for introductions. All from a "split second" decision we made to bring her to attend our wedding and help her make a deal for naval support. She is one who like us when given the chance takes all she can. We are opening the door for her, that the Celtigar name much less a side branch with only a manse to it's name couldn't possibly on it's own. I would like to think she would see that we are being fair an honest with her. By not just lying and taking the deal, and treating her with respect while coming up with potential avenues with her family to rise with our own. Also as I've said before, before dragonstone I would like to try and commit to a raid on house Sunglass if possible. Letting us bring in another lordly house into the kings peace. And hopefully not lose another fucking unit. Or just focus on growth and politicking in that time.
>>4250216>>4250260I agree we shouldn't promise a marriage because, as you said, Cerelle made is clear she doesn't want to be a baby factory, the most kids we're getting out of her is 3 and thats probably only with our high persuasion.A "legacy alongside our own" isn't specific enough for my liking either and it's a pretty hard sell to a house that already has a legacy.Higher up some anons were talking about muscling the narrow sea mafia 'protection' style. We could offer them freedom from that and then get the Criminal Syndicate holding after the fact. admittedly it's a pretty hard sell, but I feel like we could bullshit that easier than promising a higher status house a spot alongside our rise.we would have to talk about his in private and not out in the open as we are, obviously.
>>4250281>Higher up some anons were talking about muscling the narrow sea mafia 'protection' style.Except she would be our in with the protection. Who would we be protecting them from? The threat would be pirates which she has the connection to. >than promising a higher status house a spot alongside our rise.And remember EDISON has no lands. He a branch family member. His highest status is 3 I believe. His family's head of house has status I'd say equal to our wife's current status. >a house that already has a legacyCleo doesn't give a flying fuck about Celtigar legacy. She wants her own, with her blood being the rise she can't get in this life. Edison is a nobody, on the wrong side of the war. Even his house will be heavy with reparations his house has to pay out. Edison will likely have mroe leeway to maneuver once the dust settles from this fight. Since he has been "with" the winning side for a little while now. It won't be his responsibility to deal with his house's actions unless become's the head of that house. Just saying she knows we have done right by her as best we could. Play into that feeling of we stand by our words and we honor them. Praise her a bit, with shit about how when given an inch she took a mile and if her kid if half the being she is they will rise up with the opportunities being given alongside our blessings.
>>4249557will you just stop it with the cavalry already?and no, we're not going to the loan sharks, no matter what
>>4250160>>A marriage between her child and yours.
>>4250160> A specific something elsebecause I don't like selling children>>4250296 has kindly provided the something:> edson is a nobody on the wrong side of the war> edson has no landsoffer to support him further, first to bring him to the right side of the war, then to get him a slice of land or maybe even maneuver him into head of the house. A poisoner/pirate and a merc captain should be able to between them muster enough wit and force to execute a hostile takeover from within, no?
>>4250302>will you just stop it with the cavalry already?You mean whats essentially an equipment upgrade for our Calvary? If it costs us some wealth to ensure our calvary does as much damage while also retaining and increasing it's survivabilty I don't see why you would have a problem with that.Better horse means more athletics for more damage and more endurance so more health. >we're not going to the loan sharks, no matter whatJust asking anon relax. We are extremly far from getting to the 2nd rank with the faith. And leveraging money for zero interest to start our builds several months in advance makes sense to me as it should to many others. >>4250315>A poisoner/pirate and a merc captain should be able to between them muster enough wit and force to execute a hostile takeover from within, no?The thing is it may be to obvious a play. And who knows if they/we get caught. But if cleo is down I am not opposed to the idea We just can't agree/give the idea now. In front of so many eyes and witnesses>first to bring him to the right side of the warI don't think anyone would say he personally not in the king's peace. But he isn't head of his house so it wouldn't matter if we brought some boy with no right to land or men under the kings peace. That his manse hasn't been taken from him outright means they tolerate him at least. But I am interested to see what she has planned. And how we could potentially benefit from both there so long as it does not interfere with our dragon stone raid.
I think we should put the ball in her court and ask what we could do for her. She doesn't have that strong of a bargaining position. Her new family doesn't have any lands, is a lesser branch, she refuses to participate in the taking of Dragonstone, what exactly is she offering here? Some spies in our neighborhood? And we're offering a marriage for that? Completely ridiculous.I do agree that we should offer to make her branch the main branch in private. Please consider this anons:>Suggest in private that we would help in bringing the main branch of the Celtigars to the King's peace but "accidentally" kill all the members so her branch becomes the main branch, provided she forms a permanent alliance with us and helps with her pirates in this mission and other endeavoursWe have already killed the Lord of one house and his brother, and the heir of another house, I don't think we'll get any flack for doing it again.
>>4250340Any female members of the main branch can mysteriously vanish and be whisked away by her to the Stepstones and hidden there for the rest of their lives or she could poison them if she wants a more permanent solution.
>>4250340>We have already killed the Lord of one house and his brother, and the heir of another house, I don't think we'll get any flack for doing it again.I agree with the proposition as I said the same.But this is a completely different position. We would be helping Edison commit the crime of kinslaying. Extremely looked down upon. Many would associate Edison with us. That we would attack his family should be connected to him in some way. We could attack under the guise of bringing that house under the king's peace. And that we went there in peace and Edison came to watch them handle a peaceful transition. And the whole branch took to trying to back stab us and attack us. If Edison was willing to commit to kin slaying. Either way these aren't things to be said in front of our wife and many prying eye's. We could do that and it brings us the glory of bringing another lord house into the kings peace while also raising Edison. But If anyone escapes we are fucked and that gets messy very quickly.Even if we/edison gets charged with the crime and reasons his way out. There will always be rumors and a stain on our own name. I would tread lightly. Or salt the fucking earth and and kill children that might have seen us just in case of the off chance.
>>4250349I'd say don't involve Eddison at all here. Leave him in King's Landing. We go the Celtigar's place and attack and kill all the nobles there without asking any questions just like at Sharp Point. Later we can say that they fought and we fought back. There's no obligation on us to use Diplomacy first. Then any female members can be disposed of by Cleo in secret. (Obviously keep this very private and limit the knowledge to only trustworthy individuals) For coverup we can say that the rest of the house ran away in the fighting. Then Eddison by default becomes the head of the house and submits to the king's peace.What do you think about this anons?
@Boggs can we get the details from Eddison on exactly who is in the main branch of the family? That will help this discussion if we're dealing in absolutes.
>>4250360His uncle. Is the house lord, im finishing up HW and I am tired. But this fairly certain that is right. Remember he wanted our help choosing a partner, for him and his sister cause he didn't want to be used as a pawn by his uncle. If I am not mistaken.
>>4250360If you answer thisI was curious if Herb house would let us increase the quality of our alcohol?Herb House: The greenhouse is used to grow a variety of beneficial herbs for use in preserving and flavoring foods, making herbal remedies, and healing. New Rule:All Healing (Treat Ailment or Treat Injury) checks in the keep gain a +1B.Green house Some rich lords have constructed greenhouses, buildings crafted with large panes of thick glass that allows sunlight in, but keeps the elements out. In such buildings are extensive beds of soil found. Though many use them to grow food or herbs, in some lavish holdings they are used togrow rare and beautiful flowers.Choose one kind of crop when the Greenhouse is purchased.Food House,Flower House, Herb House.Nice thing is we could upgrade the any we choose with Diverse Plantings*: +1 Defense, +1 Wealth; 2d6 months.The greenhouse’s space is expanded and its products are diversified. Add another category of crop from the list above to the greenhouse’s yield. This can be purchased multiple times.Only thing is it would very much take up a Lifestyle holding. But I would say this fits with Aurion better if it would get him flavors that are more in line with what kind of alcohol he wants to create. With the Vinter taking care of the garden stuff if/when we are away.
>>4250354Eddison might not want us to kill everybody so that might be a problem and we would still need to worry about witnesses like soldiers and maids we will definitely not be able to talk our way like Sharp Point
>>4250160I think we should shelf this idea she doesn't really have anything we want anymore we already have proof and 2 hostages they are spies not saboteurs
>>4250160A promise to help her if her old pirate life comes knocking could be valuable to her. Though i feel that both this and most of the other options going around are far more valuable to her than a few spies are to us, unless she is offering us access to her entire network.
>>4250399sure, but there are other ways in which we could helphelp, mind you, not lead the charge, just help and be adequately compensated for itI mean there's sword-selling and there's sword-selling-with-a-chance-of-beheading, and we'd be performing the second kind for her and her hubby
>there's sword-selling and there's sword-selling-with-a-chance-of-beheading I chuckled
>>4250250Yes. I look at it as a 3 part quest. This early stuff with the founding, another part around the Greyjoy Rebellion in 6 years, and the last part around the time the books start. Maybe playing the heir for the last part for a change of pace, or switching between POVs. We'll see.> >4250360Sure. 2 sons, one an adult. 3 daughters. The oldest daughter is married to Monford Velaryon, heir to Driftmark, so the Velaryons stand a better chance at inheriting than Eddison right now. Those two houses combined make up the bulk of the fleet holding out for the Targs right now. Lord Lucerys Velaryon is the Master of Ships for the Targs. House Celtigar is an extremely rich house and has turned out more Masters of Coin than any other. They're also known to hire sellswords of their own. I like the ideas, but I really can't think of a way to make this work right now with what you have at your disposal and the family scattered across three different island fortresses. Not trying to make it overly hard just to shoot it down either; this has been established through other quests in the timeline along with the background lore.>>4250246It is a long shot here. Aurion is lowborn and that can't be changed. That was the added difficultly that was chosen at house gen. A lordship matters more socially than anything, which is half the trouble. Asking to be seen as a peer by those tracing their names back thousands of years when you were born down by the docks is something that does and should require an extraordinary feat(s). Your children will be highborn, so they have a better shot at it.>>4250321Cavalry use Animal Handling for damage. >>4250388Yeah it would work. I mentioned it in one of the other threads.
One other thing to keep in mind with houses like this, and this isn't an endorsement of a Cleo-spawn betrothal but rather a general consideration with your neighbors, Valyrian houses are rare and extremely proud of their bloodlines. They are the descendants of true dragonlords and have enjoyed supremacy for the past three centuries until a few months ago when a big screaming jolly retard took a literal sledge hammer to their world. That's still unlikely to have a great cultural impact on them. The majority of the time, they either marry their first or second cousins. If one isn't available, then they find a suitable noble with good Valyrian blood from somewhere like Volantis. It might seem backwards, but that's their priority and it's one that's benefited Aurion because the elitism carries over (to a much lesser extent) to Dragonseeds. Those smallfolk on your island that have a trait or two popping up are generally shown more favor and are more prized for their look. It's something to consider for the future if you're looking to ever be considered as a Valyrian house yourself. If you're not, then feel free to disregard all of this. Just figured there was a lean towards that considering the desire to play a Dragonseed in the first place. Cerelle's Andal blood is strong, so it's lent more weight in the outcome of your children with her, but her fair features still lend a decent possibility that at least one of your kids will end up with that more locally desirable blood. Marry a kid like that into more Valryrian blood and you're on your way to establishing yourself as a Valyrian house. For the record, the only Valyrian houses aside from House Targaryen are Celtigar, Velaryon, Longwaters, and Malroy.
>>4250615I hate to seem like I'm not enjoying this Quest obviously I am, but you ever think of rolling up a new house as maybe a break from this one? Would love one in Dorne or in the North I want mammoths
>>4250640It's crossed my mind, but I think that would be far off from now. These sorts of quests have a tendency to go on hiatus on cliffhangers with a lot unresolved and I don't want to do the same thing as a QM that's bugged me as a player. Probably Dorne if I were to do it.
>>4250615seems like Celtigar would be a nice house to sidle up to, no? I mean we have a sort of an "in" already
>Let Cerelle decide
I think Cerelle would castrate us if we promised our firstborn, regardless if they're a boy or a girl. Which also brings up that we don't even have children to betrothe. How do we know that they'll have the right parts? If we both only have boys we're in trouble. Maybe we could get Cerelle to help us find somewhere to foster her future child? It might help with the concept of legacy of ensuring that said child is raised amongst other noble and highborn children. Banefort springs to mind, as does Lydden. Possibly Reynold to keep with the Westerlands theme and those Cerelle might know. Elsewise I have no idea what else Cleo might want.
>>4250734we should definitely discuss it privately with her. If we agree to this than that both children that Cerelle wants betrothed before they're born, doesn't leave any room for error, if one of them dies, they may demand another.
>>4250981maybe promise to take a child as squire or handmaiden either ourselves or find a suitably prestigious house to do it?
>>4250160>talk over the betrothal with Cerellewe can't really promise a kid without her.
>>4250160>A specific something elseOffer to take a child of their choosing as a squireThat's honestly all this is worth
>>4250995Access to an extensive spy network is only worth something that is customary anyway? >>4250193This is me. ID changed. I'm changing to >>4250734The cultural misunderstandings are so severe that I'd rather Cerelle handles this. This is above our heads. Plus I don't want to make that sort of promise without her.
>>4251006Considering the only time we relied on the spy network it failed, I am thoroughly unimpressed.
>>4251010Because we had spies in our house already that are being willfully ignored at this point. The manticore felt like a softball for an assassination attempt too. What'll it be next time? Cerelle?
>>4251022A spy network does nothing for defense against spies and other foreign agents, if I understand correctly.
>>4251031Spies already present in our lands would have no way of taking note of any unusual happenings? Spies in our enemies' lands would have no way of figuring out who is employing the spies and possibly their identities? And lastly, spies that Cleo has contact with can't be strongly encouraged to kindly fuck off out of our lands? I'll take any or all of the possibilities. Squiring is something you toss as a bone to show favor to some commoner subordinate. Like the blacksmith's son or something. Or the master of arms. It's not a bargaining chip unless maybe you're someone like Jaime Lannister.
>>4251042>Spies already present in our lands would have no way of taking note of any unusual happeningsMechanically, if the spies in our lands pass their roll, I indeed don't think Cleo's spies could notice. Or it would be an opposed roll. I have no reason to believe in the competence of her spies since the only time they tried something for us, they failed.>Spies in our enemies' lands would have no way of figuring out who is employing the spies and possibly their identitiesSounds like a difficult thing to do against anyone with common sense.>And lastly, spies that Cleo has contact with can't be strongly encouraged to kindly fuck off out of our landsWhat? That's ridiculous.>Squiring is something you toss as a bone to show favor to some commoner subordinate. Like the blacksmith's son or something. Or the master of arms. It's not a bargaining chip unless maybe you're someone like Jaime LannisterNo, taking the child of someone with a lower status to be your squire is a perfectly normal way to do them a favour as well as strengthen the bond between your houses. It is definitely not just for blacksmiths.
>>4251042That's not worth bargaining our future child away.
>>4251048>Sounds like a difficult thing to do against anyone with common sense.Which is funny because it worked out just fine against us. Also, we are a lowborn. How exactly is squiring for us supposed to be a favor? I don't understand all of this turning up our noses when we've only been "noble" for a few months and have spent nearly all of that time drinking, fighting, and fucking. Not that I mind at all. It's more fun to read. But using status as an argument to call us someone else's betters is just confusing. We would look like total assholes.
>>4251053I'm on the fence so I changed my vote to putting this on Cerelle to decide. If she thinks it's worth it then fine. If she has some other idea then I'm fine with sitting back and agreeing with it. The ideas so far have been as disproportionate as some of the stuff with the Bar Emmon girl.
>>4251060>Which is funny because it worked out just fine against usHow so? 'Our' spies got caught, but that doesn't mean their spies in our land discovered them. They just fucked up.>How exactly is squiring for us supposed to be a favorWe are landed nobility. We have higher status, iirc. >But using status as an argument to call us someone else's betters is just confusing. We would look like total assholes.I disagree. We are in a better position now, so offering something to bring people lower than us in a better position too isn't an asshole move. It's an acknowledgement of the status quo, nothing more.
>>4251072So you think that Cleo, who I would say has to be fairly clever given her entire life so far, was outsmarted in orchestrating an infiltration by some sheep or cattle herders? Here she is telling us we have a spy problem in our house. We caught Duncan and all he admitted to was being ready to seat the boy at sunglass in our castle. Nothing about spies. Nothing about poisoning. Everyone so far is telling us we have other problems to contend with and it's being ignored with the fingers pointed in the wrong directions to compensate for a desire to never give an inch to anyone. We are lowborn with land or not. LowBORN. That can't be changed. It says it right here. >>4250593 her kids will be highborn like ours. Why would she associate them with a lowborn man with dubious claims towards knighthood in the first place? Her kids have to overcome the same stigma as ours. Would you do the same in reverse? Take our highborn son and stick him with a lowborn man who happens to command some men?
>>4251085Lowborn or not, we are now nobility and we have a higher status than them. I don't understand why this is so difficult to wrap your head around.Yes, highborn nobility often looks down on raised nobility like army officers looked down on their colleagues raised through the ranks, but someone with a higher rank is still someone with a higher rank.>Take our highborn son and stick him with a lowborn man who happens to command some men?Well, yes. If the lowborn man was of a higher status than us, for instance a lord with a vassal knightly house, I think that would be quite alright provided we don't find him a better place to squire.
>>4251090Wew. Ok then. I guess there's not much else to say if we are disagreeing on the core definition of status here. I'll still stick with letting Cerelle decide. If you're set on offering her nothing because of a perception of being her better, then that's cool. I'll just make some popcorn for the next run.
Sorry if this is a double post but I can't see my post even after a few minutes>>4250160>Let Cerelle decideAurion used charm to get us this chance no one really should have gotten, so now let the negotiatior take over. Not a fan art what you're discussing, giving away kids or murdering houses to let a politically minded pirate do... What? Run our information network? Tell us about spies on our island? What a joke, paying to be under someone else's power. We've given Cleo more than is reasonable for what our relationship is and far more then could be expected of a common born man, penning important letters or not. You're not even trying to negotiate down the price, you're trying to show the whole room that you are the king of simps
>>4251242>penningOwning* Turns out that someone got my mobile ip banned... Wifi works though.
>>4250160>>Let Cerelle decide>>4250665Dornish Lady quest pls
>>4250665>>4251248>mfw nobody wants da norf
>>4251306One day Anon. One day.
>>4250160>Let Cerelle decide
>>4251306>tfw always dreamed about a quest beyond the Wall where we unite all the clans and become King Beyond the Wall and have like 2 spearwives from each tribe
Well as I've stated I don not feel comfortable giving away one of our children's future. I would say promise to to take in the child via squire and help the boy elevate him self as we would our own child, and not stand in the way if he and one of our children have feelings for each other. We explain that the child will be given more opportunities than most knights in the realm. We will guide him as best we can. And we promise to help elevate him past his current station, and use resources for him to marry we expect them to re compensate us for if we are to bribe him into a higher marriage. I'd also leverage that we have no idea what she has to offer since she hasn't even given us what we might be gaining or an idea of what she might be planning or if it would even benefit us. We offer her this, and see how she reacts. We might be able to get enough with the sincerity. And our high AF convince roll. and hope we don't crit fail again. If it fails we offer to chat with our wife to see about a union between our kids. It isnt the end of the world. We have no idea what we are to gain from this yet. Other than the leak in our house.
>>4251342A quest so based will not go unwritten. Have faith, my friend.
OPs internet is kill. He posted on twatter.
>>4251352+1Let's do this then chat with Cerelle regardless of what happens next.We really need cunning or warfare higher.
>>4251352+1I think this might be the best option, i'm not comfortable with promising away another child before they're born either.
>>4251673Cool. At least my phone works now. Seeing a lot of support for either deferring to Cerelle or going for something minor like squiring first. No way I'm going to type up an update on this phone though. Just to clear one thing up... you don't have a higher status than Cleo. I don't know where that came from or if I miscommunicated something? She is currently one of the big three in a region much larger than your backyard. She essentially married down for reasons of her own that I wouldn't want to spoil.
Along with the squireship.We could give them a trade deal for 5 food a month. Thats set for life with the option to buy more, bargain prices still. Alongside a deal to be the supplier to KL other than the king for our alcohol. As im sure it will catch on once people hear the king loves our stuff. It gives Edison a constant supply of goods to do his thing as a merchant noble in the capital.We just need the vinter. And if we get the lifestyle holding we would make plenty of ordinary, and superior with a small batch of extrodinary once the two upgrades are in place.Also the mill we can eventually get will raise our food supply by 5 a month. Even if we add a new unit we should still be getting an over supply of 10+ food a month.It also seems to be forgotten that we have a mine an armor. We could sell the woman armor at cost or enough to barely gain from this. If her plan is to use her men for any large plans. I'm thinking every offer we could give her negotiated prices to appease her. So we both win here. Between the trade deals along with the squireship we should easily get some where. I just dont know what she has to offer. So I don't want to over deal our hand. But we are sitting on many assets, even if they aren't all available in the present time.
>>4251694In that case i'm switching to deferring to Cerelle.
>>4251694I didnt think Cleo had a higher status in accordance with the nobility. I also think many people were referring to Edison, Edison being the nobody. >>4251767I can imagine these things would help. And 2 of them being immediate could help things.1. Selling Cleo/Celtigars Armor.2. Giving them a life time contract to sell some food. With the option to buy more as we have to supply.3. Give them a contract to sell our lower quality alcohol. While we sell directly to the king. They can sell to the taverns and her crews alike and potentially nobles that want some as well. It would help legitimize Cleo and Edison. And give them a "clean" industry that they can make income off of. Cleo has money to spare but no clean industries to show for it. We both win here. What do you say boggs this + the squireship make the DC more than reasonable?We could help this by off starting off with a whole sale of our current food supplies, to get the added wealth we need to start the mill as as the smelter
About fucking time my internet was down. >>4251767>>4251946I could see that helping. We could also give them a yearly quota to buy armor for a small discounted price instead of just using it to armor them selves. It gives us more market if we have someone else selling our goods. And helps Edison/Cleo arm their men and do w.e they please with the rest of the quota. Say 5 units of men's armor a year or so. I wouldn't "limit" her to just using it for her men. And we now no longer run the risk of "arming pirates" we are just selling it to house Celtigar with a small discount. I could get behind that anon. I am not entirely happy with them essentially who most of our supply of goods gets funneled through but if it builds up an alliance and a stead stream of income I am for it. We better screw Edison on the bargaining roll. Have em pick all the shipments
>>4251946>start the mill as as the smelterWe have enough for the smelter/or mill. But I still say while we are here at Kingslanding we should focus on a better horses for our cavalry if the chance arises.
>>4251946>I didnt think Cleo had a higher status in accordance with the nobility.Compared to you, she does. You're both low born. That's what counts the most. Or should I say the least? Then land/power comes next. She has more of both by a significant margin. But then at the other end when birth is considered, Cerelle is almost as far separated from Eddison as to compare to Cleo's gap over you on temporal power. As to what Cleo herself makes/will make of it all, I'd probably refer back to what she's said in conversations so far. Or what's been said about her.>>4251248Hah. Don't tempt me. I rolled up a dornish house last summer when showing someone how the rules work and I managed to pull Scandal in 4 out of the 7 house history events. >>4251306>>4251342Who knows, someone else might be interested in running it. I'd definitely play it.
>>4252083>I managed to pull Scandal in 4 out of the 7 house history events.Dew itWe must seduce Robert
>>4252083I'd run it, I am just too lazy to read all the mechanics from the rule book
>>4254190Plus I wouldn't know where to begin
>>4254192>read all the mechanics from the rule bookI would say that is a good place to start. It also gives you good advice from what I have seen for a QM.Helps you see how to set up scenarios and what not. Creativity is not for everyone. God bless anyone who tries to run one.
>>4251306>>4251342>>4254207I did the house creation rolls, and I think I got the Forresters, ancient minor house ruined by invasion/revolt, defeat and a scandal. Tons of lands, tons of bandits, few people with enough money to get by
I've never played DnD before and this quest is my first ever. However, I would still like to learn enough to run this quest->>4251342Can any anons help me where to get started? Assume I'm an absolute noob. I've played some DnD style computer games (Pillars of Eternity, Pathfinder Kingmaker) but I always found the exact rules too difficult so just played on easy. I've started reading the Asoiaf roleplaying book in the Google drive linked in the OP.Also, if I were to learn enough to host this quest, would anons be interested? I'm unfamiliar with /qst/, is there a limit on the number of quests of one fandom which can be hosted, are there too many Asoiaf quests? Any help would be appreciated.
>>4255235>would anons be interestedThis is the only part I can answer (I've never GM'd) but yes, if you run a house quest people will be interested. All the ASOIAF house quests have a good amount of overlap in player base and yours will get the initial interest too.
>>4255235I recommend reading some of the historic archived asoiaf that came before. You don't have to read everything of course. Just scan enough until you understand the mechanics and how it's written.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=ASOIAF
>>4254986Neat.>>4255235I'd say you would have a good amount of interest if you put the work into it. There are three quests including this one which I would say aren't dead. House Malroy is the longest running and arguably the most successful, but it runs sporadically now. House Reynold is another great one that will probably be running again any day now. Now here is where I'd give some advice:1. Find out what kind of quest you are looking to run. For example, this one is heavy on house management and the like. The system isn't really designed for that though, so it requires a lot of balancing here and there. That can be a lot of fun if it's your thing, but the simpler approach of playing an MC that is a retainer of a house or even just an adventurer works fine too. House Reynold does the latter to great success and House Malroy does an amazing job of balancing the two. 2. Consider whether you want to create a house creation thread or dive right into the story. House creation threads are a great way to bring in players and gives them a sense of investment in the story before it even really begins. Plus there's something exciting about the random chance of it all. The downside is that you could end up with a house/MC that isn't that appealing/inspiring to you as a writer/QM. You can skip out on that initial random rolls+group input house gen and just make your own offscreen. It's been done (only once, I think). That would be House Malroy. If you check the archives, you'll see a ton of old quests with house creation followed by like 1-4 threads whereas House Malroy has over 50. There may be a correlation there. I personally get enjoyment out of molding player ideas into a good story, but relying too much on player input for the basis and background of your story may bend it more towards the mundane. 3. You're going to have critics. Take it or leave it. That just comes with the territory when you're dealing with source material from an established universe as well as what I at least would consider to be a thick rulebook. Doubly so when many have expectations from other quests in the setting. It's usually not worth the effort to engage or respond to people bitching about a setback or trying to bend rules to their advantage. Constructive criticism can be great though, like players voicing a desire to see more of some story element, telling you when something is unclear, etc. Just don't let anyone "co-QM" or rules lawyer, otherwise it could derail things. They're your rules to do with as you please. Use what fits your quest and discard the rest. 4. This one is more specifically for you. Because I totally missed that you were talking about that specific wildling premise. Check out the drive folder in the OP again. I just put in the Nights Watch supplement. It has some wildling-specific stuff in it including unique benefits and rules for units like giants, mammoths, and chariots.
>>4255253>>4255265Thank you for the interest and the encouragement>>4255335Thanks a ton! I've read House Reynold previously and also your own previous quest, and I've been following some other quests for a while now. I read 'A Sword Without a Hilt' over on Sufficient Velocity which is a Viserys quest over 4.2 million words long, so I think I have some idea now. Thanks for the Night's Watch supplement, your Drive is helping me a lot here. I'm already reading the Roleplaying Guide, so I've a lot of reading and practicing to do. But it's not like I have anything else to do.Also, sorry for hijacking your thread! Hope your connection clears up soon.
>>4255355A wildling quest has been done before. You can read this one to get some ideas.http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Bronzestone
>>4255355Lol I don't mind at all. It's not like we're going to sink to the bottom any faster. I should probably mention here since not everyone checks twitter. I expect it to be fixed tomorrow, so my plan is to run tomorrow night.
>>4255361I’m so sad that died, I remember being so interested in the first thread and all the threads following that
“Legacy. It would be, yeah?” you share a brief, knowing look with Cleo. It feels like a lifetime ago, which it might well be in your profession, since you shared your hopes and dreams with your mercurial ex-lover. Now a few months later you are both wed to almost comically unlikely partners and revisiting the future yet again. But you can’t do so alone.“As it happens, I’m not well-sorted on the properness around raising children. Don’t have any myself… I’m telling it true,” you shoot the Celtigar couple an annoyed glance as they look to each other with blatant doubt while the two highborn maids cover their mouths politely. “Any road… the whole experience seems like great fun, but I’ll defer to my lady wife on the details,” you conclude, squeezing her hand.“I think it best that we do so in a more private setting,” Cerelle says softly while fixing the Celtigars with a cold glare.Eddison blanches at her look, but his wife looks more curious than anything. “Constance, be a dear and go show your little friend to her room,” Cleo says while still looking to Cerelle.“You too,” Cerelle says to Vaeron, who gives you a shrug and departs along with the others.“Is the secrecy truly necessary amongst friends?” Cleo smirks.“Aurion is a very open and… passionate man, and I do love that about him, but I am not. Lady Bar Emmon is far from my ‘friend’ and I have little reason to trust your good-sister if she is to be wed to some unknown house in the near future,” Cerelle clarifies.“Oh? She is?” Cleo’s smile widens.“Pray tell, where is Lady Annara? Dorne? I could think of several houses that she should be approaching,” Cerelle responds.The couple exchanges another look, this time with more surprise. “How did you come by this information?” Cleo demands.“You just told me. Logic gave me the rest. I would have done the same in Lady Annara’s position at such a ripe time for a match and flush with coin from her good-daughter. For better or worse, she does still hail from Dorne and her kind are rather well disposed to Valyrians of late. All it took was one brutal act to wash away their outrage over the Prince’s folly. Short-sighted but expected,” Cerelle says while leaning on you more, her only allowance towards the smugness she must be feeling. “I have to wonder, what precisely do you intend to offer me that I may not puzzle out myself as soon as it catches my interest? Your last spies failed, did they not?”
>>4257123“Because your husband failed to keep his house in order,” Cleo bristles, growing angry.“They still failed. If they were truly talented, then they would have escaped or succeeded even with a leak. I see little reason to look to the future, to potentially involve mine own child in these follies brought about by the fumblings of amateurs. What stops me from going to the Red Keep tomorrow and bringing forth all of the proof I have already gathered?” Cerelle presses.Cleo rapidly taps her fingers upon the arm of her couch in impatience and annoyance. “A sample, for the affection I have bore your husband,” she starts, you feel the grip tighten on your hand. “The King’s new page is a Massey boy. They are favored as one of the only Crownlanders to keep with these Stags. I wonder, how much are the words gathered from an attainted house worth in comparison?”“A trial---”“I wasn’t finished. My sweet Constance’s friend. That ‘lady.’ Tell me. Where is her dowry? Do you have it?” Cleo asks.“We sort of left in a hurry… in their coffers I’d hope?” you cut in.“Then why has coin crossed the sea, my sea, to those who take coin for but one purpose?” she presses.Cerelle’s hand goes slack in your own as the color drains from her face.“Who?” you demand.“Braavos. I am well-liked there, you know this. That leaves a few options. I know not which. Such would cost me,” she answers.“Perhaps we could come to some sort of deal, yeah? Squiring, handmaiden… ing? Maybe some trade? We could cut you in on---”“I care not for your fucking goods, Aurion. I am no scraping merchant. Do not insult me again,” her anger flares. “That bottle of wine I wasted on those uncultured girls was from the Archon of Tyrosh. I could arm a hundred men for its worth. I have others. What I want is for no one to look down upon my child. A betrothal to your heir or someone of higher standing. Anything less and I am better off looking elsewhere.”>Can I get 3 rolls of 3d6 for Cunning? DC 13
Rolled 4, 3, 6 = 13 (3d6)>>4257126
Rolled 5, 4, 1 = 10 (3d6)>>4257126
Rolled 3, 3, 3 = 9 (3d6)>>4257126
>>4257126>The King’s new page is a Massey boy.this makes things interesting.At least we have the proof for their treachery making things MUCH better for ourselves. They likely would have raided us and said we were doing slimy shit or something. And got back the lands for house Rambton or Sunglass. We've upset that plan.>“Then why has coin crossed the sea, my sea, to those who take coin for but one purpose?” she presses.Well seems like we've assassins coming after her? And she has no coffers in her lands. And I am surprised she plans on keeping her station as "pirate queen" of sorts. She is more powerful than I gave her credit for. I thought she would "clean up" and slowly distance her self from the pirates doesn't seem like that is her plan yet. Seems like we wont be getting lady Constance as a jeweler at least.
>>4257176Shame. I was looking forward for the "Aurion Arts and Crafts" skill tests, since we'd inevitably hover over her while she worked.
“The Archon… of Tyrosh,” you laugh, which only incenses her further.“Do you take me for a liar?”“No. Well, maybe, but not with this. I laugh at the look on Elequo’s face when he finds out of your dealings with his own ilk. Just what are you plotting?” you ask. She frowns. It might be the closest look to embarrassment you’ve ever managed to get out of her. “You have received enough free information for one night, yes?”“We have. If you will excuse me, I am feeling rather tired from the journey,” Cerelle holds out her arm for you to help her up. “I will sleep on your proposal and give you my decision on the morrow.”Cleo shakes her head and waves her away. You hear her speaking with Eddison in a low murmur as you escort your wife upstairs. “Of all of the women you could have been with, I am sure she is easily the most insufferable. It was not easy to remain polite when she was so intent on speaking to me as if I were one of her commoner friends,” Cerelle tiredly complains as she fumbles with the ties on her dress before plopping down on the bed in frustration. “I cannot even undress myself properly in my state and she speaks casually of assassins and spies.”“You managed to throw her off with that Dorne bit. And I’d say I’m a fair hand at undressing you. Seems to me like you’ve fewer concerns than you think,” you reassure her.“You’re impossible... we must know more of these assassins. It is that or take more drastic measures to ensure our safety. As much as I dislike it, I am nearly inclined to accept her offer,” she sighs. “But with conditions… I will think on it. For now, I truly would prefer to rest.”>Join her. See if you can come to an understanding on this now.>Find Lady Bar Emmon. Maybe you can find out what she knows of this “dowry.”>Seek out Lady Constance instead. She isn’t too savvy on all this intrigue and might spill things.>Something/someone else.
>>4257236>>Find Lady Bar Emmon. Maybe you can find out what she knows of this “dowry.”I'd rather we go with Constance but we may as well not burn bridges. And see if we can squeeze as much info out of Lady Bar Emmon as we can. And Chat with our wife once she has had a good nights rest and time to talk this over with us with leveled heads. Smart move would be pry it out of Constance.I also feel bad we haven't had much to talk about with lady bar emmon. We should make nice once we sell her and her house off to the dogs.
>>4257236>>Join her. See if you can come to an understanding on this now.Spend the night with the wifey>Something/someone else.I wanna check the room for any kind of peepholes/secret ways we get listened to. she made it clear that we get spied upon so this place should be no different.
>>4257236>>Seek out Lady Constance instead. She isn’t too savvy on all this intrigue and might spill thingsThis involves our family's health. Get the information from constance. She has a soft spot for us. Use it, simple as that we need that information.
>>4257236>Join her. See if you can come to an understanding on this now.
>>4257277>>4257254I'll switch just to get somewhere faster. +1
>>4257254Alright, I'll add this in too.>Can I get 3 rolls of 4d6 for Awareness (Notice)? DC 15
Rolled 3, 2, 2, 1 = 8 (4d6)>>4257291
Rolled 5, 6, 6, 6 = 23 (4d6)>>4257291
>>4257299Huh would you look at that
Rolled 1, 3, 5, 2 = 11 (4d6)>>4257299Nice.>>4257291
>>4257299fucking nice.1 point away from a crit.Still we may even be able to use the peephole to our advantage.
Rolled 2, 5, 5, 5 = 17 (4d6)>>4257291
“I’ll join you. Might be we can work something out,” you start working at the ties at the back of her dress. She lets out a contented sigh as she slips it off. Her smallclothes cling to her full breasts. One more layer and it will be a sight to behold. A sight to behold… you are in a sneak’s house… what would a sneak do?It’s not as if you chose this room. You were directed to it. It was prepared in advance. You scan the room with your good eye. It’s all neat and well furnished, at least by your tastes, with polished wood walls adorned with interesting paintings. One catches your eye. Out of all of the newer furnishings, it is the only one that appears damaged with a tear across the black sky of the moonlit field landscape. A remnant from before the Sack? Does it have sentimental value or is there something else to it?“Nice enough room. I like the paintings.” You walk over to one, ignoring Cerelle’s curious look. You approach the one with the tear next and notice a slight flicker of light. You quickly peer through the crack and find yourself looking into the next room beyond. Constance. You recognize her even with her back turned as she frantically snuffs out a candle across the room. You pull away and meander back towards the bed.Now that is curious. She might’ve been the last sneak you suspected. A testament to her skill? Or is it nothing? Has Cleo wrapped her into some sort of scheme or is this one of her own? Or is she just a thirsty maid looking for a peek and a show? Curious.>Go confront her about it. You basically caught her.>Just keep your voice down and the curtains drawn about the bed.>Put on a show. Let her work up a thirst, maybe you can use that.>Something else.Continuing tomorrow with a longer run. Thanks for playing!
>>4257353>>Put on a show. Let her work up a thirst, maybe you can use that.It's almost cruel. Almost.
>>4257353>Put on a show. Let her work up a thirst, maybe you can use that.
>>4257353>>Go confront her about it. You basically caught her.I mean if we were ever going to chat with her while she feels guilty is as good a time as any even if it was to satisfy some kink of her own. I want to put on a show but our wife may have some misgivings about it showing off her naked body. As well as we need info now. Worth it now and we don't have to feel guilty about taking advantage of her for info.
>>4257353>Put on a show. Let her work up a thirst, maybe you can use that.>>4257384She's high nobility. They get help with dressing and bathing. Odds are she's let lots of women see her naked. Whisper it to her or something if it's a big deal.
>>4257384+1i'm kinda feeling walking out of the room naked, going straight to visit her like that.Something along the line of "you wanted to see me, here I am!" Once the shock factor has worn off we grab a tapestry/tablecloth/ anything else to cover ourselves.When the conversations over and we're walking back to out room we can detour to a main room to drop off the tapestry/tablecloth/etc.
>>4257419>She's high nobility. They get help with dressing and bathing. Odds are she's let lots of women see her naked.Letting the help see you naked. And someone peeping on you carries to very different tones. I get your point though. >>4257433We can pull p[plenty of info that way.
>>4257353>Go confront her about it. You basically caught her.Maybe we can use our convince stat here somehow
>>4257353Go dick her in the face right now>>4257433This. The shock, embarrassment and guilt should help our dice tremendously
But what do we get out of confronting her? Blackmail? Her family won't care about this past a laugh. Or actually seducing her? I doubt anons will go for it because of mah waifu. I can be convinced, I just want to hear the reasoning.
>>4257353>Go confront her about it. You basically caught her.
>>4257353>>Put on a show. Let her work up a thirst, maybe you can use that.
5-4 for confronting her. Running in like 90 min. Before then...Tell Cerelle first?>Yes>No
>>4258937FUCK I wanted put on a show to win, boring anons
>>4258937>YesThe best person to keep in the loop.
You walk back over to Cerelle and the bed. She rests on her side cradling her belly and toying with the hem of her shift, giving you an eyeful of her thighs. Invitation enough by her measures. She’s not what you’d consider a wild one in the bedroom, more the slow and gentle type. Not so much fucking as love making. At least that’s the best you can describe it. You’re not sure if that’s some sort of highborn thing, she’s the only one you’ve laid with this side of the Narrow Sea, or if it’s got something to do with the quick leap from maiden to expecting mother in your time together. As tempting as it is to liven things up with a show, it may be best to play by her rules and just get this out in the open. You lean forward and start kissing her neck to better whisper in her ear. “Constance Celtigar of all people was trying to peek on us through a hole in the wall. Don’t look.”“That little---you’re certain?” she hisses back.“I caught her trying to snuff out her candle as I peeked back. It’s more a matter of why,” you tell her.“I can think of several reasons…” she frowns.“You’re the thinker love. I’m the doer. Let’s see who figures it out first,” you kiss her cheek and make for the door. She sighs and sits up while you exit. If you had to wager a guess, she’s going to go peek on you now.
>>4259037This. She is an extension of ourselves.
>>4259165You don’t bother knocking, you just enter and find Constance in the middle of the room lit only by her window. She was clearly fretting over whether or not she was caught. Her loose shift still clings to her curvy hips as she stares at her half-dressed intruder with mouth agape. She’s several inches shorter than Cerelle and shorter girls like her do tend towards filling out nicely. Still, her height’s not doing her any favors here what with the chair carelessly left by the peephole. That brings a smile to your face even if it doesn’t quite reach your eyes. A curious position she’s put you in. So far, you’ve had a pleasant relationship with her and a sort of connection since the day you met. Of course, you favored Cerelle when it came to bedding and the like, your wife is more a woman in that way, but you’ve still cared for your friend of Celtigar. She was the first highborn to treat you well on this side of the sea and you repaid that kindness with your friendship and protection. And yet this single act may have changed everything.>Put some fear into her (Intimidate)>Lay out the facts of the situation and how you’ve caught her, demand an explanation evenly (Convince)>Unless you’ve misread her this whole time, she’s the caring type. Explain to her how you feel your trust has been betrayed and ask why (Charm)>If she wants you then she can have you, Cerelle will probably burst in when it suits her (Seduce)>As above, but do so teasingly to the point where she’s the one that makes the move (Deception: Bluff)
>>4259174>Unless you’ve misread her this whole time, she’s the caring type. Explain to her how you feel your trust has been betrayed and ask why (Charm)Give her the guilt trip. All we've done for them...
>>4259174>Lay out the facts of the situation and how you’ve caught her, demand an explanation evenly (Convince)
>>4259174>>Unless you’ve misread her this whole time, she’s the caring type. Explain to her how you feel your trust has been betrayed and ask why (Charm)Sorely tempted to put the moves on her though. She had my vote when we were picking which one to wife.
>>4259174>>If she wants you then she can have you, Cerelle will probably burst in when it suits her (Seduce)
>>4259174>Unless you’ve misread her this whole time, she’s the caring type. Explain to her how you feel your trust has been betrayed and ask why (Charm)
Alright.>Can I get 3 rolls of 8d6 for Charm? DC 16Not trying to trivialize it, but it was the easiest choice and we're rolling with a Paragon pool here.
Rolled 1, 3, 5, 1, 5, 5, 5, 2 = 27 (8d6)>>4259266
Rolled 6, 2, 4, 4, 3, 3, 6, 6 = 34 (8d6)>>4259266
Rolled 2, 5, 1, 3, 6, 5, 5, 2 = 29 (8d6)>>4259266>8
>>4259269>>4259273>>42592764 degrees. Writing
Rolled 5, 3, 3, 2, 1, 3, 1, 4 = 22 (8d6)>>4259266
>>4259021Yeah, kind of a shame. Oh, well.
anons once again, picking the boring choice
>>4259361>boring choiceI feel like when your heir's future is on the table, you don't do something for the lulz. At least that how that option felt like to me. There wasn't any huge win there. Boring may get us the information we could use against Edison and Cleo. That is just how it came off to me, I would have been for it. But more moving parts isn't what we need right now to try and catch her watching us during, or possibly she runs off if it was just to spy on us to hear what we discussed if Cleo put her up to it. How about we pick the less boring option when we have less at stake here. Like our own life
>>4259388>the less boring option when we have less at stake here.*the more interesting option.I can't Engrish clearly. I know there are more problems with the sentence. But this one actually had to be cleared up as it made little sense.
You pointedly look to the chair, sigh, and walk right past her to sit on the bed. She’s rigid, fixed to her spot in the center of the room, clenching and unclenching her hands. “Let’s talk,” you pat the bed. Even she can see the futility in continuing to stand there, so she joins you while avoiding your eye and without a word.“Or I’ll talk,” you shrug. “You know, you were the first to show me kindness on this side of the sea. Oh, I’d already been granted lands and titles and the like, but that was all business. You were different. You seemed to… care, strange as that is. Why, I don’t know, but that’s what it felt like. A connection. Why go through the risk of saving you from siege? Why push through all Seven Hells to save those you love most? Wasn’t for coin. I got no payment for it all. Hells, I was only able to calm the men over it by paying out from Hightower’s coffers. So, why do you think I did it?”“… our friendship,” she answers in a near-whisper.“Aye, that. I care about you, Constance. So, I have to wonder why you would spy on me. Why you would betray my trust in you,” you sigh.“I-I didn’t spy. It wasn’t like that,” she looks to you at last with wide, wet eyes. Eyes like your own. “Then what was it? Help me understand,” you ask.“I was… curious,” she starts.“Of what? It’s not all that complicated,” you try to keep the smile from your face. A thirsty maid indeed.“Of why you chose her,” she starts with sudden emotion. “My mother told me you fancied me. That I would have a family and lands with you. As you said, why else go through all of the trouble? Then you discarded me and swept her off her feet. Then only today I had to listen to Lady Cassandra boast of you keeping her safe. I wanted to know what I was lacking.”“Nothing,” you assure her, still mulling over this impromptu confession. She leans into your chest and just stays there, not moving. It’s plain enough that she might well be in love with you. Kind of puts you in a strange spot with your actual wife no doubt listening in. “If you feel this strongly about me, then why not tell me sooner? Why not help me understand or help me in some other way?” you ask.“I… don’t know. I was afraid. I kept my distance after hearing of your plans for betrothal. She was of higher birth and she always seems so sure,” she whispers. “I’ve been a fool. What can I do to make this right, Ser Aurion?”
>>4259408“Not sure, really. I’m not one for all these social games. I just like a bit of honesty is all,” you rub her shoulder, just skirting that line between friendly and intimate. Probably. Maybe. “But I’ve told it true,” she says, looking up to you again.“Would that others have. I grow tired of all of the lies, don’t you? Your good-sister. Lady Cassandra… can’t say who else,” you sigh. Well, you could. Her mother’s little seductions come to mind. Had she other designs?“As do I,” she agrees. “Then why not shed some light on it? Together,” you smile.“I wouldn’t know where to begin…” she trails off.“Well… why not start with Lady Cassandra? She’s not near as pretty as you, so I’m not sure what all the boasting is about. She keeps things from me as well,” you say.“Like what?”“If I knew that, then it wouldn’t be a secret,” you grin and get a small smile in return. Constance looks off in thought.“We did talk for a time and it wasn’t all about you… she mentioned her betrothal. Lord Dustin is a widower with children, but he’s supposed to be comely enough,” she says.“Ah, right. So, she’s keen on that eh? I wasn’t sure what with it being up to her now,” you say.“I see little reason why not. He has already received her dowry and she will be destitute without some leniency from the crown. House Massey is still in favor,” she says.“Who told you of the dowry?” you ask. She’d already left the room when Cleo brought that up.“Lady Cassandra did… who else could have known?” she answers. “I see.” So, the girl has misled you in at least that. “Not half as exciting as what your good-sister gets up to though, yeah?”“She is… difficult. Frightening. I think she is half of why mother left for Dorne,” Constance muses.“Frightening? Aye, I guess I could see it, but how so?”“She has this whole elaborate deal she plots with Eddison. Always behind closed doors. You were right, ser. There have been too many secrets. Those two have become rather close which is surprising considering his… I shouldn’t speak ill of them, my apologies,” she hurriedly adds. “Deal? I know she seeks one with me over children and the like,” you prompt. “This is different. Something about a Lysene and an Archon. I wish I could tell you more… Aurion,” she says. Bold of her. Well, for her. She never uses just your name. Still, it seems she has little else to offer unless you’re looking to send your wife into fits.>Thank her and leave.>As above but toss in a kiss. Little to you, probably a lot to her.>Encourage her to be bolder in the future. How else will she get what she wants in life?>Something else.
>>4259392>>4259392I feel like there's not a lot at stake here at all, it's only a Celtigar.>>4259410>Encourage her to be bolder in the future. How else will she get what she wants in life?
>>4259410>>Encourage her to be bolder in the future. How else will she get what she wants in life?
>>4259410>As above but toss in a kiss. Little to you, probably a lot to her.>Encourage her to be bolder in the future. How else will she get what she wants in life?Both.>>4259415There wasn't. Anons pick the boring options to avoid haremfagging. PTSD from other quests. Dulls the story in cases like this though.
>>4259410>Encourage her to be bolder in the future. How else will she get what she wants in life?
>>4259410>>4259419support, include the little kiss on the air at the endin that case we need to make Aurion more bold than he already is
>>4259410Ask her about the jewelry
>>4259410>>As above but toss in a kiss. Little to you, probably a lot to her.>>Encourage her to be bolder in the future. How else will she get what she wants in life?and >>4259426I'm indecisive, I'm sorry Boggs. Love ya.
>>4259419>boring options to avoid haremfagging.Goal: Family/LoveMotivation: Fear (loneliness/failure)While our wife is watching/listening? I wouldn't even say reckless which is our vice fits. It would just be sheer stupidity. If that is how you run you like, when you just married your pregnant wife who by all records would frown upon that. I would be surprised if your life isn't pure chaos. who knows sometimes chaos is good.
>>4259436like to run your life,*I am all for a kiss farewell from afar, something anything non sexual. Just not a good wife, to our recently married, very pregnant wife. That likely already feels the pregnancy has made her "ugly"
>>4259436Reckless fits. Doing it for the sake of family definitely fits. All of that's just opinion though. Not sure why you'd drag real, modern life into it when we are playing a game in a fantasy medieval world. The option acknowledged she could step in, so that's a flimsy excuse too. Seems like more rollplaying than anything. Per the usual.
>>4259419+1I think betrothal is off the table though we might want to string her along. I don't imagine it'll be difficult.
>>4259419>>4259436Remember in Boggs last quest when we got to have a threesome with our wife and our childhood friend for getting the friend a child, but then the wife got so fucking upset and blew up when we continued to have sex with the friend afterwards? It's really a knife's edge we're walking on when we try to enact our harem fantasies in the quest.>>4259410>As above but toss in a kiss. Little to you, probably a lot to her.>Encourage her to be bolder in the future. How else will she get what she wants in life?
>>4259410>Thank her and leave.She is our friend and our wife is listening. Let's not be cruel to the poor girl.
>>4259450>so fucking upset and blew up when we continued to have sex with the friend afterwards? It's really a knife's edge we're walking on when we try to enact our harem fantasies in the quest.I am confused you call that good?Regardless of times, cheating on your wife is always a bad impression. It may be some cool points with the boys. But near 100% of people agree cheating on your married partner is bad. Coming from someone who thinks a contract is extremely important, why would he not believe the same is true for a marriage?We don't plan on fucking her it'd be just leading on the girl.
>>4259460>We don't plan on fucking her it'd be just leading on the girl...that's the point. It's intrigue. The absolute last scenario where you should be white knighting. It's hard to imagine how you could think our lives are on the line to justify rollplaying and then fedora tip when it comes to actually deciding an approach.
>>4259470>that's the point. It's intrigue.So that is what you tell your wife, who is in the other room?I am not playing the white knight. I could give a fuck if Aurion wasn't Married. His recently married prego wife next door listening in. It's about protecting your marriage and saving her feelings. Someone who prioritizes love/family doesn't go around kissing other women. For no gain, doesn't seem like she would be willing or able to give out any more information. And if she was I wouldn't say kissing her would be the tipping point here. idk I just think if I was in Aurion's shoes, it would be a pretty shit thing to do, and he would not do it.
>>4259478For future information. She's an asset. Cerelle is not going to freak out over a kiss if she didn't freak out over him sleeping with Cleo. You're making wild assumptions about her based off of modern sentiments and other quests and ignoring what's happened so far in this one.
>>4259494>Cerelle is not going to freak out over a kiss if she didn't freak out over him sleeping with Cleo.We had no idea what was happening in regards to Cerelle then. Much less have gotten married. She is pragmatic, she overlooked that we had sex with a woman before we got married. You're making wild assumptions about her based off of modern sentiments and other quests and ignoring what's happened so far in this one.Modern assumptions that a wife wouldn't want her husband kissing other women? Fairly certain that isn't a modern sentiment. She comes from royalty. She lost her virginity to us. What am I ignoring or basing off another quest? Everything I've pointed out has nothing to do with another quest, just what we know as Aurion. >>4259410>Still, it seems she has little else to offer unless you’re looking to send your wife into fits.Do you think this was thrown in here for giggles? In my opinion it has been implied she loves and cares for us. And the implication that she doesn't want to share you. As it would be implied we don't want to share our wife with any other man. We kiss her. Then encourage her to be bold with what she wants.Doesn't matter which one comes before or after. We are sending a very clear message here.
“I’m sure you would tell me,” you smile. “But I really should be getting back, elsewise my lady wife might think I’m having an affair. I’m glad we can trust each other.” Constance suddenly seems more aware of exactly how compromising she must look resting on you with both of you in a state of near undress and straightens up with a blush. You laugh.“I don’t mind a little boldness. I’d say you should be more bold, really,” you tell her. “Generally speaking, that is. You won’t get what you want in life otherwise. I would be no one if I hadn’t taken what I wanted in life. You would’ve never so much as met me. So, take what you want… do you still work with your jewels.”“Not of late. Most of my supplies were lost in the Sack,” she answers, considering your words.“Well, get more. Tell Cleo to pay, she’s good for it. Why waste such a talent? Hells, who knows? Might be we could come to some arrangement and you could work with my crystals. The Faith would like that, I’d think. Something to think about. Until then,” you kiss her on the forehead and take your leave. A small gesture that still renders her speechless.“How much did you hear?” you ask Cerelle after you close the door to your own room. She’s stuffed the hole with some garment and is getting back into bed.“Aside from that sloppy confession and your talk at the end? Too little. She always was a quiet one,” Cerelle says irritably. “Well, the quiet ones are the ones who’re listening. She told me much and more,” you start filling her in on the details.“So, Lady Bar Emmon puts us in an awkward position of having to break up her marriage or to ensure House Massey is equally attainted,” she summarizes. “And I haven’t the slightest idea as to what this Lysene business is about.”“Nor do I. The Archon bit fits with earlier. Elequo is Tyroshi, so that’s amusing. Might be she’s trying to get him killed. Not sure about the Lysene… a replacement? But that’s not for her to decide, it’s not her seat and Shako wouldn’t trust her to make that play. Dunno,” you shrug.Cerelle stares at you. “There are occasions in which I wonder if you are speaking a different language. This is one of them.”“Triumvirate business. I guess we’ve never talked much of Bloodstone past that one night. The one with the feast when I surprised you. I left out a good chunk of the details what with your mother present,” you explain.
>>4259547“I do remember. That was a pleasant surprise,’ she smiles softly.“You looked beautiful. Glowing even,” you lay it on. “Do I still?”“More than ever.”“Good,” she smiles. “I expect you to show me. Especially if you would lead on that foolish girl. It’s almost cruel, but she may be useful. Would that she will pine after you enough to write you letters with more details.”“Not as if I’d read them,” you scoff.“I would,” she smirks. “Perhaps I would even write back.”“Now that’s cruel,” you say.“Perhaps. We should rest. They will want to speak more of these betrothal notions on the morrow,” she yawns.“Have you decided anything?” you ask.“… yes. I believe so. I do not wish to promise another child. One was difficult enough and that was with a more tolerable family. Two is far too limiting and it could have us choosing between two promises. I would propose an alternative, a reasonable one. She is keen on our firstborn son. If she even has a daughter, then I see little harm in allowing the two to meet. Perhaps we can offer to merely stay out of the way if they are taken with one another? If they are not, then I will offer to help in finding the girl a suitable match,” she proposes.“That might play to her pride a bit. She won’t admit it, but she likes being challenged,” you tell her.“We will see,” she snuggles into you. “Bolder.”“Rocks? What of them?”“It’s bolder. Not ‘more bold,’” she mumbles as she drifts to sleep.More tomorrow. Thanks for playing!
>>4259553thanks for the run have a good one
>>4259553Till nex time cousin, thanks for writing
>>4259553The interactions between these two are amazing Boggs
>>4259553Thanks for running Boggs! Keep being awesome and take care!
You break your fast alongside Cerelle, who isn’t one to skip a meal at this point. Although she was quick to request something other than stuffed peppers and dates. Not one for spicy food.“I thought highborn were supposed to have better taste in food,” you comment as she picks at a pastry and diced fruit.“I fail to see what taste there is in intentionally burning one’s tongue. Instead it seems like a way to render one’s tastes useless. In a way, I suppose that is rather fitting for the Dornish. They are a backwards folk,” she comments. “Well I like a bit of spice,” you say as you heartily dig into the pepper and dates. She makes an annoyed sound under her breath as your hostess comes into view. Cleo slides in across from you both with a tired look wearing nothing more than a very poorly secured robe and makes no greeting other than a muttered call for hippocras. She downs a glass and pours another before finally speaking. “Just the three of us. For the best. I had expected Constance to be about. The girl loves her sweets. Too much if you ask me.”“Long night?” you smirk.“If you only knew… Eddison will be about later. He is off on an errand. I don’t need him for this. He is too timid around your lady wife,” Cleo says.“And I would say you are too bold. Your robe is open,” Cerelle tells her, finally showing a hint of annoyance.Cleo studies her face with a look of amusement. “I could have it off if it pleases my lady. Free of charge.”>Intervene and give your new terms.>Let this play out, they can both fight their own battles.
>>4260864>Let this play out, they can both fight their own battles.Aurion should just keep talking about food like he doesn't hear their bickering
>>4260864>Let this play out, they can both fight their own battles.Either they make up or she takes the robe off. Decisive victory for Aurion.
>>4260864>Let this play out, they can both fight their own battles.>>4260881+1
>>4260864>>Let this play out, they can both fight their own battles.
>>4260864>>Let this play out, they can both fight their own battles."These stuffed peppers are amazing."
There’s no way you can lose here. Either they get over their little jabs or you get a show with your meal. Or both. That would be something. They could kiss and make up. No robes required. You close your eyes and savor the thought as you pop a date in your mouth. It’s stuffed with spices. “Ah that’s a clever trick,” you nod approvingly. “Sweet and spicy reversed from the pepper. It’s all quite good.”“Go on, take it off,” your wife bites. Your eyes shoot open. “If that is how you wish to present yourself, as a commoner would, by all means show me who you are.”The former courtesan glares at your stony-faced highborn wife. An interesting contrast. Both could be vaguely described as blondes with blue eyes but that’s where the similarities end, if they’re similarities at all. Surprisingly, Cleo doesn’t act out.“You wish your children to be respected. You wish your children to be accepted. You will gain neither by acting the wanton. They will forever be the children of a foreign whore with a weak-willed offshoot of a father,” Cerelle continues.“You are very lucky your husband is who he is. Even that may not be enough,” Cleo warns dangerously.“Threats? More acting to type,” Cerelle sighs while you reach for the hippocras. “I am doing you a kindness here if you’ve the will to see it. I say this because we are without bystanders and because it is the truth. I know these circles. I have seen the way a young lady with a questionable mother is treated. You have it doubly hard and I do not envy you in the slightest for it. It goes far easier on those with fathers like my Aurion because they can at least be respected warriors.”“What is your decision. Let us be done with this,” Cleo coldly demands. “If we both produce an appropriate pairing, then we will allow them to get to know each other. I will not stand in the way of their union and if it should not come to pass, then I shall strive to find a more suitable match within my circles. Do you see the intent behind my words now? My child will be raised properly and will be interested in the same. I assure you. The way she speaks, the way she walks, the way she dresses. All of this is important, and she will learn it from you,” Cerelle fixes her with an even stare.
>>4261126Cleo pours more wine and downs it without bothering to taste it, letting out a bitter laugh. “Oh, I am not with child yet before you judge me on that too. It seems I will need to buy tutors.”“Fostering is another option, if you so choose,” Cerelle offers, her shoulders sagging slightly as the tension dies down.“I do not so choose. A barbaric practice. Children should not be chattel,” Cleo makes a face like she’s already had too much wine.“So, we’re good here?” you cut in. They both turn to you as if remembering you’re here. A queer feeling for you. You normally draw in the room.“We are. To a point. You will not be given such free access to my circles. Not yet with so much at stake. However, I will still look into this Braavos problem… and the matter of these upstart sheep herders. These Rambtons. My girls are missing, likely dead. That requires an answer and I know how I like my answers,” Cleo says with some venom in her voice.>Press her on what exactly is at stake>Skip over it and talk Rambtons>Actually, you’d rather focus efforts on House Massey for now>You've had enough talk for one morning. Time to go explore the city.
>>4261134>>You've had enough talk for one morning. Time to go explore the city.
>>4261134>>Skip over it and talk Rambtons
>>4261134>>Press her on what exactly is at stakeWe may as well get answers now. Then get to talking about house Rambton with the wife here. Make it clear they need to testify or we need them to be alive at least according to our wife.
>>4261134>Skip over it and talk Rambtons
>>4261134>>Skip over it and talk Rambtonspour a little more wine to get her really talking.
>>4261134>Skip over it and talk RambtonsI'm tempted to go for the mystery box plot but I figure we'd already be looped in if it made a big difference to us.
If we want to hit house Rambton, We may as well work with her on this. If she is going to go burn the ground and salt the earth. We may as well do some looting on our own. And kidnap the royalty there along with the child. Do not hurt them if we can help it. And bring them into the kings peace. But ruin house sunglasses food supplies.
“Seems like a fine enough loose end to tie up. Alright what of Rambton?” you pour more wine for both of you while Cerelle stares at the glass. Must be brutal, having to settle for the watered-down stuff. “I would remind, we have a trial to concern ourselves with now. We cannot go about burning and pillaging over slights when there is so much at stake,” Cerelle cuts in.“What trial?” Cleo cocks her head. You run her through a summary of it and what’s at stake with Rambton's claim through the grandson of your island's previous ruler.“Hugh Rambton. My, my,” she’s no longer smiling. “I have no desire to burn and pillage as you say. That would leave me open to reprisal elsewhere. I was going to have their lord killed in response, but you’ve given me a better name.”’“They have no lord. Only the knight at the head of their household,” you correct.“Just so. That is why this boy matters, yes? Without him, they have no male heir to your lands. He must die,” she decides.“He is but a boy, not two and ten. Killing him would arguably be worse than raiding,” Cerelle protests.“I have listened to you speak of matters you know best. Now you will listen to me speak of mine. There will be no great bloody mess. The boy will simply die. A slip, a fall. Bad meat. There will be questions with no answers. This is the way of things,” Cleo says.“Or we could simply take them to trial and show that we are in the right and they are in the wrong,” Cerelle counters.“And forever have a loose end growing older and stronger. One that will be a man and knight grown when your own child is playing with wooden swords,” Cleo looks to you then back to your wife. “This one gets himself killed in one of his impulsive outings and then what?” “Well let’s not go acting like it’s a when. I’ve gotten this far,” you frown.They both exchange a look. >It’s for the best. The boy has to die.>Why not kill the father like originally planned? It’ll cause enough chaos with the boy being but a squire.>Hold off on any killing. You’re confident you can crush them in a trial. You’ve a witness and a silver tongue.>Something else.That’s it for tonight, thanks for playing!
>>4261263>Hold off on any killing. You’re confident you can crush them in a trial. You’ve a witness and a silver tongue.We pumped up this persuasion for a reason, I guess.Thanks for running Boggsy
>>4261263>>Hold off on any killing. You’re confident you can crush them in a trial. You’ve a witness and a silver tongue.I don't feel like Aurion would order the murder of a child.
>>4261263>>It’s for the best. The boy has to die.
>>4261263>>Hold off on any killing. You’re confident you can crush them in a trial. You’ve a witness and a silver tongue.
>>4261263>>Hold off on any killing. You’re confident you can crush them in a trial. You’ve a witness and a silver tongue.We've that one knight witness.
>>4261263>>Hold off on any killing. You’re confident you can crush them in a trial. You’ve a witness and a silver tongue.These people won't know what hit them. We will have the knight we captured speak on our behalf on his part of all his shit in liege with the Ramptons. And With the backing of two kings with the contracts to prove for these lands, and the assassination plot we could likely insinuate came from that house. At court we could destroy them with proof. And if it gets to the point of of needing to trial by combat, we win that way. We would "prove" they had a hand in our assassination plot. Along with destroying their inheritance on those lands. I wonder what we would gain from this, for our problems and being "forced to attend this farce". We should be compensated for our problems or at least given the the obvious casus belli, meaning we could raid with out impunity them and their allies.
>>4261263>Why not kill the father like originally planned? It’ll cause enough chaos with the boy being but a squire.>>4261320Why would we have the right to go to war over settling up a legal claim? They would be under the kings peace.
>>4261374>They would be under the kings peace.House Rambton isn't under the king's peace. They are likely playing their hand that they will "join" the kings peace if they get their rightful land back. That is the card they are playing at here. House Rampton and possibly their leige's house Sunglass come under the kings peace if house Rampton gains our lands "back". With out playing that chess piece why would a newly established king, who has JUST granted us these lands side with house Rampton? That is a slap to his face. Granted a minor one, but still a slap to his authority. They are banking on the if you give us this, you won't have to lose more men fighting these X houses. It gives the house to house Rambton and the branch Sunglass girl son.While settling the legal claim of ownership, we could bring us the assassination attempt on our life. That caused the oh so heroic life of our dear brother's(in arms) sister. Casus belli should be warranted there even under the king's peace much more if they don't fall in line and and enter the king's peace then and there. After that it's open game on that house and we could go off letting Cleo murder that whole lineage, and we may even gain the land via conquest. Rightfully so, we could use that as a stepping stone to getting Vaeron landed. If EVERY SINGLE star aligned. But I doubt it could work out that way. But there is a tiny fraction of a chance we could make that happen.
>>4261400Ok. How are they supposed to be in court if they aren't under the kings peace. Why do you think the king is going to personally involve himself in this when we are small fish and he's not one to sit around listening to people. Why would he be personally offended when estermont made the promises. Where is your proof that they were involved in an assassination when the only "witness" has no clue what it's about and it's clear there are 2 separate plots. This is a bunch of wishful thinking.
>>4261422>How are they supposed to be in court if they aren't under the kings peace.Coming to the trial to get into the kings peace. If they were already in the kings peace why would we have offered to attack their island last time we spoke to a BUNCH of nobles?They could be using this trial to get lands and back into the good graces of the new king. As I said by gaining this land, they would fall in line into the kings peace.>“One letter is on behalf of the crown. Some… barristers informing us of a claim filed against these lands by Lord Guncer Sunglass on behalf of Hugh Rambton. Yes, that Hugh Rambton. He has claim from his mother’s blood,” she seethes.>“So? He’s a boy with no knighthood and Sunglass is in open rebellion,” you point out.>“His father or uncle could easily act as Knight Protector in his stead. As for House Sunglass… tell me, Aurion. If you were sitting in King’s Landing putting out fires in every corner and one such fire offered to put itself out for a stamped parchment, what would you do?” she demands.>Why do you think the king is going to personally involve himself in this when we are small fish and he's not one to sit around listening to people. Because it makes his life easier to just say yes. And have them come into the kings peace anon. Why would he be personally offended when estermont made the promises.Because it also recieved his blessing. If it hadn't we wouldn't be secured in our lands. This I've no idea where it is. but I am 90% sure the new king signed off on our lands in some way.>Where is your proof that they were involved in an assassination when the only "witness" has no clue what it's about and it's clear there are 2 separate plots.I agree. I was just mentioning that as a fuck you to them. They are the most likely of culprits to dish out an assassin to get rid of us. I really wanted lord bard emmon alive to question him for certain about all guilty parties. But alas here we are. This was just a suggestion, once they've been nailed to the cross about having lost their lands. like case closed, then we say we have something that merits looking into. And once they've lost the land dispute we throw that in, and convince the jury they had a hand in this, especially is the lord dies in a trial by combat. We could at least take the little lord as a ward. And marry him to Cleo's daughter>this is a bunch of wishful thinkingNah, but the last thing sure is. We've many avenues to play this. We just have to many plots going on atm. This thing, house Massey's desecration we will be using some how, getting revenge on house Sunglass. House Sunglass was involved at least according to the assassin. But not sure how we will play that with everything we currently have to deal with. And lastly our 2nd half of our mercenary group that went rouge. And shit we have no idea about.
>>4261442I'm not going to dissect a poorly written text wall as large as a story update. It's tiresome.
>>4261263>Hold off on any killing. You’re confident you can crush them in a trial. You’ve a witness and a silver tongue.
>>4261722>I'm not going to dissect a poorly written text wall as large as a story updateWell that is what boggs wrote take it up with him, if you don't believe it that is what it is. I believe I introduced it in it's full context, good luck sir
>>4262146Don't go pointing at others. You know I'm talking about the essay you wrote around the quotes.
>>4262146I'm with this anon >>4262348Honestly when i see posts like yours in quests I ignore them. Even now I have no idea what you wrote just that you wrote way too much. Discussion is good but condense that shit.
>>4261263>Why not kill the father like originally planned? It’ll cause enough chaos with the boy being but a squire.
>>4262397>Honestly when i see posts like yours in quests I ignore themSameI'm not going to read huge texts like that in my free time
>>4262348Then choose to be ill informed. I'm replying to multiple of your random thoughts that are based in no where with a solid thought out process. Do what you must, I don't blame anyone if they don't want to read.
Alright I think it's pretty clear for holding off on any killing. I'll be picking up where we left off tomorrow night. Probably with meeting your septon/exploring the city and maybe the start of the wedding. If there's anything you guys wanted to do/buy here then feel free to drop suggestions and I'll work them in if I can. Just to avoid any more confusion, Sunglass/Rambton would have to be under the King's Peace in order to go through the motions of a trial at all. It wouldn't make sense for them to be able to be "rebels" and also go through legitimate legal proceedings.
>>4262744Sounds good thanks for the update and clearing that up.
>>4262744Actually wanted to check with you, so far Vaeron has only 15 exp correct?
>>4262832It should be 20. Half the rate Aurion earns and it's been 40 exp for Aurion since Vaeron last spent anything.
>>4262744>If there's anything you guys wanted to do/buy here then feel free to drop suggestions and I'll work them in if I can.Find a healer for the birth. Ciara Boggs
>>4263672I can work with that. Keeping a good non-maester healer on retainer would cost 5 wealth. You could afford that with your spare glory. I'll put it to a vote now and close it when we run tonight.Spend 5 wealth on a Healer?>Yes>No
>>4263799>YesGotta make sure the baby and the mother will be okay
>>4263799>NoSo if Cerelle dies in childbirth, how soon can we marry again?
>>4263799>NoI thought a maester costs 10 wealth. If true then this seems not worth it
>>42638916 months of mourning is traditional before resuming courtship.
>>4263931Could we get character pages for the side characters? Just the general information about them no need to include stats
>>4263799>>NoI mean is the healer better st healing than even a maester that specializes in healing?
>>4264026Sure.>>4264242Probably about the same. It's cheaper because it's focused whereas a maester typically has more generalized knowledge as well.
>>4264261Mhm thanks.We can currently only have 8 personages correct? And if we want more we have to lose some/one of the previous ones?Say if we run into the cap, and we want a maester could we "exchange" the healer for a Maester. Any refund on wealth spent there? Say would the wealth used there be applicable to the next personage?
>>4264331Yup, 8. You are 4/8 right now. You would be within your rights to dismiss one in the future if you felt the need to. I can't see a wealth refund because it's supposed to be payment for services along with the personage's equipment. It effectively belongs to the personage in question (or to their institution in the case of a maester or septon).
Citadel has teachers for numerous topics, including accounting, anatomy, architecture, astronomy, dragonlore, forensics, healing, herblore, higher mysteries, history, mathematics, navigation, raven lore and training, warcraft, and so forth.I thinking we keep the healer and just have our Master focus on other things we could benefit from which we(our wife included) lack and move on for more interesting things we could use our maester for stuff other than healing. No idea which way anons want to go once we can get one.>>4264350Are we not producing raw iron yet from our domain? Considering we are getting crystals already for 3 months has it just not be running at full capacity?
>>4264261>It's cheaper because it's focused whereas a maester typically has more generalized knowledge as well.That's interesting. Would it be possible to acquire something like a master farmer to apply to our farm domain?
>>4264498I'm still working on the iron and trade goods in general. Units for trade goods and their subsequent worth are home-brewed concepts from another quest, so I want to be careful about not breaking the system with them when the holdings already generate a fair amount of wealth to begin with. >>4264586I'll have to think about it. I can't see anything to increase production since you're already at an insane level for a single farming domain, but maybe something to work on the quality.
>>4264586I like the idea. But I'd be careful how we spend it. we've 4 more.Maester seems like an obvious choice for one.I want both the Vinter and a weaponsmith. Vinter gives us Extraordinary Alcohol, and a weapon smith gives our troops +1 damage. As well the ability to produce top quality weapons we can arm our troops and sell abroad.Making us pretty self sufficient for wars and troop creation. While also having the food production to sustain an unreasonably large standing army. If we get the healer thats all 4 slots.Personage locks should be Maester + Vinter IMOO. Everything else is bonus.
You look the two women over. Two blue eyed blondes. The only two blondes you’ve slept with. Odd, that. To be fair, their type is rare in the eastern reaches of Essos where you spent the bulk of your time. Did the contrast draw you to them or was it their personalities? They couldn’t be any more different outside the vaguest descriptions. Straight platinum hair and eyes of ice against golden curls and a deep ocean blue. Sharp, predatory edge and toned body sculpted and honed by age and experience. But you chose the protective softness of youth. Naïve or not, you chose hope. And teats.“No killings. Not yet. I have them right where I want them,” you decide.“And where is that? Do tell,” Cleo condescendingly asks.“A trial. Weren’t you listening? If you had to wager on some ‘upstart sheep herder’ was it? Or me, in a trial based on words alone, then who would you favor?” you ask.“We also have a witness and documents,” Cerelle adds.“Aye, don’t much need them, but they’ll serve. Any road, this ends in my favor or in a trial by combat. Again, wagers,” you say.“You are a passable fighter, nothing more,” Cleo rolls her eyes.“And you think Rambton’s going to pull a Kingsguard out of their wooly white arses? Doesn’t matter, Ser Vaeron may act in my stead. Last thing we need is Rambtons dropping dead right before the trial and making me look like some sort of craven sneak. Aye, you and yours might be clever about it, but that’ll still have some thinking,” you pause to polish off the last of the hippocras. “Sides, you forget one more thing. When my boy is playing with a wooden sword and their boy is a knight grown, I will still be here. The gods love me, and my sword is sharp,” you grin.“Now you speak for the gods?” Cleo scoffs.“Oh no, just pointing out the obvious. If the gods didn’t want me to say it, then they wouldn’t let me say it. The gods do love me, this is known. They’re sending me a septon to preach as much, didn’t you know?”“I am sure there was no gold involved in this exchange,” she sarcastically responds.“None at all. That is, aside from what the gods provided to me,” you fold your arms and favor her with your smuggest of smirks.
>>4264861She massages her temples and relents. “We will go with your plan. You are like to cause a bloodbath in a trial. This suits me.”Cerelle takes your hand and squeezes it with a fond smile. It’s enough to make you feel sure of your choice. “Will you be meeting with our new septon while we are here?”“It crossed my mind. There was one other thing I was looking to see to, a healer for the birth. A maester might be too much trouble at this point, but this is a big city. There must be at least one or two decent---” you’re cut off as she kisses you in a surprising display of affection.“Truly? It has been much on my mind,” she admits when she breaks away with a warm smile.“Aye, I don’t want to risk you. You should’ve mentioned it if it was on your mind,” you tell her. Cleo leaves you two with an unintelligible groan in parting.“You truly are too sweet. We haven’t much coin and I didn’t want to burden you,” she says abashedly. “I was simply going to suggest seeking out the tourney grounds and content myself with that.”“What, in the Westermen camps?”“In a sense. Those grounds truly are meant for tourneys in peaceful times. I would imagine there are knights from around the realm busying themselves in anticipation for the Royal Wedding,” she says.“But not with any true tourneys. Those are banned, yeah?” “Oh, surely not,” she smiles at the old jest. “It’s your choice as to what you would like to do, Aurion. I will put out inquiries towards whichever task you would not see to personally.”>Go pick up your septon>Search for a healer>Seek out reliable knights>Something else
>>4264862I think at least the knights part we should do ourselves. Cerelle can pick up the septon and we can meet afterwards. 50/50 on the healer, but that just means both of us can do it. If we have the time I'd both the knights and the healer.>Seek out reliable knights
>>4264862>>Search for a healerGotta make sure Wifey gets the best.Vaeron can do the knight thing, anyone that he's impressed by would be worth it. Just tell him to make sure he doesn't get injured
>>4264862>>Go pick up your septonHave our wife get a healer. She could figure out if anything if fishy with them. She could find one better than us anyway.Picking Knights should be on both of us. We check for capabilities and our wife can pick up on knights she likes from the odd bunch we choose.
>>4264862>Search for a healer>Seek out reliable knightsI ship Ciara and Anders.
>>4264862>>Search for a healer>>Seek out reliable knights
>>4264862>Seek out reliable knightsThis is squarely in Aurion's court
Alright, looks like we are going to the tourney grounds and fleshing out that Cadre. I hate to do this, but something just came up. I'll post the next update in the morning and then do a full run tomorrow night.
>>4265049Thanks for running! Good luck with stuff in the meantime.
Later than I wanted to post this, but life doesn't always favor my optimism.“You can see to the septon. It was your idea and you wrote the letter. I’ll take Vaeron and see what we can dredge up from the camps and grounds,” you decide then grin at the thought. “Suppose he might need to wear his plate.”“I expected as much. Please, no one too… uncouth. If they are to protect our family, then I would like their presence to be tolerable,” Cerelle says. You make your vague reassurances and scoop Vaeron up from the yard for the ride to the far side of the city. Compared to your visit two moons ago, it feels as if new life has sprouted in the busy streets and stalls. It might be that a realm-wide event such as this wedding was exactly what the city needed to close some of its wounds. Or maybe not. There’s a good amount of mistrust and resentment in the air despite it all. Too many dirty, unwashed faces staring at passersby with vacant looks. All of the highborn feasts and festivities have done little to soothe the people’s wounds and sacks cut deep.But the air is less foul smelling and more festive outside the city walls where a veritable army has camped. A cursory glance shows that a fair number of the western levies have stood down, but they have been replaced with chivalry from across the realm. You are no scholar of heraldry, but you’re fairly certain you can make out three distinct camps among the mess. The greatest and most familiar is still of the Westerlands. Another must be the Stormlands as you see stags and turtles mixed into the bunch. The last… you’re not sure. The Reach, perhaps? Or others of the Crownlands? Maybe both. They’re distinctly separated from the other two camps, so they might be the old Targaryen loyalists that have already bent the knee. What better place to gain back some of that old favor? A better question might be which you’d like to focus your attention on. That is, if they’re not all pummeling each other together.>Westerlands section>Stormlands section>The unknown, possibly mixed section to the side
>>4265874>The unknown, possibly mixed section to the side
>>4265874>>The unknown, possibly mixed section to the side
>>4265874>>The unknown, possibly mixed section to the sideAs much as I love our wife, I'd like something other than Westerlanders.
>>4266156yeah what he said
“Where’d you reckon that lot to the side hails from?” you ask Vaeron, pointing to the camp that’s taken over the furthermost tourney ring.“Dunno. Might be local lads? I’d say they seem right salty about the stags and lions if they’re camping out by the tree line like that,” he says.“Not sure I’m so well liked in those camps myself. Well, the turtles are alright, but the stags have given me fuck all of a glance and half the lions act as if I’ve cucked them,” you comment.“You have in a sense. You bedded and wedded the only daughter of one of the most licked arses in wherever they’re from. Prime piece at that, well done. That has to ruffle em a bit what with your standing in these circles. Bunch of whining about blood this and blood that. What’s it worth if you can’t fight?” Vaeron shakes his head.“You’ve a point. Still must be some impressive fighters, no? How else hold onto power this long?” you ask.“The Crakehall. The one they call Strongboar. Saw him out in the yard when you were busying breaking in your wedding bed. He’d give me a good run for it. Also heard talk of a Raynard something or other and I’ve heard these Kingsguard are something special too. And this Celgan monster. The one that’d done in the Princess. Heard they keep him chained up in the bowels of Casterly Rock with dogs. Granted, not the sort you’d want guarding your wife. Elsewise…” he shrugs.“Might be we’re just looking in the wrong circles? And I'm not looking for champions, just good reliable knights... hmm. Well I’m inclined to give this new lot a chance. If they’re old Dragons, then they might still favor me. I’m half a dragonlord myself. Thinking on it, we’ve not exactly killed any of them outside Sharp Point and that was with right cause. Sides, they’ve quit the fighting before their brothers on Dragonstone,” you decide.“Lack of conviction,” Vaeron says with distaste.“That or wisdom. We flipped too, I’d remind. Granted our oaths were a bit more flexible to begin with. It’s their fault really, not fixing the contract more,” you say.“Just so. Hope they feel the same,” he shrugs.>Can I get 3 rolls of 4d6 for Awareness (Notice)? DC 12
Rolled 4, 5, 2, 4 = 15 (4d6)>>4266366
Rolled 3, 6, 4, 1 = 14 (4d6)>>4266366
Rolled 1, 1, 5, 5 = 12 (4d6)>>4266366
You approach the camp and give a look around to see what sort you’ve stumbled across. Only one banner readily stands out to you.“Fuck’s sake,” you curse. Seven gold stars on a banner of white. You may not be one for heraldry, but House Sunglass is an obvious one even amidst the myriad colors on display here. Vaeron follows your gaze to it and has a similar reaction.“If they’re here…”“They’ve bent the knee,” you finish for him and keep looking around. “But what I don’t see are Rambton banners.”“What do you want to do about it?” he asks.“Well, do they even know what we look like? Could just walk right past them and be about our business. Then again, might be worth the trouble.”>Pop in for a surprise visit. >Ignore them and be on your way.
>>4266411>>Pop in for a surprise visit
>>4266411>Pop in for a surprise visit.
>>4266411>>Pop in for a surprise visit.lets stir the pot
Ok, I doubt it's going to flip, so let's go with it. >Can I get 3 rolls of 3d6 for Knowledge of the house? DC 12
Rolled 1, 1, 4 = 6 (3d6)>>4266473
Rolled 5, 3, 5 = 13 (3d6)>>4266473
Rolled 6, 3, 1 = 10 (3d6)>>4266473
“We both already know what’s gonna happen,” Vaeron sighs.“Just so. Can’t be helped,” you grin and slap him on the back.You dismount and tie up the horses on whichever poor farmer’s fencepost that has been turned into an impromptu stable. Eying the bright white pavilion, you think on what you know of House Sunglass. Being of common birth, the knowledge doesn’t come to you as easily as it might amongst the house’s peers. The majority of smallfolk know little of the lords and ladies they owe allegiance to. That is, other than of obvious instances such as great cruelty, warlike behavior, or grand acts of generosity. Still, you do know just enough to say there is one word that might be best used to describe your former overlords: Pious. Everything from the seven stars and purity colors of their banner to where they pour their coin. Even Septon Domerick mentioned their lesser cousins’ pious titles. Knowing that, you:>Stride in with confidence. You are the Captain of a Free Company and not one to be trifled with.>Take a more measured, courtly approach.
>>4266522>Take a more measured, courtly approach.Time for Aurion to turn on the charm
>>4266522>Take a more measured, courtly approach.
>>4266522>>Stride in with confidence. You are the Captain of a Free Company and not one to be trifled with.
>>4266522>Stride in with confidence. You are the Captain of a Free Company and not one to be trifled with.
>>4266522>>Take a more measured, courtly approach.
>>4266522>>Take a more measured, courtly approachWe still doing a status check before they even have a chance to have disdain for us i think.
Ok. Can I get 3 rolls of 4d6 for Awareness (Empathy)?
Rolled 2, 1, 3, 3 = 9 (4d6)>>4266653
Rolled 4, 5, 6, 5 = 20 (4d6)>>4266653
Rolled 2, 2, 4, 3 = 11 (4d6)>>4266653
Two spearmen stand at their posts outside the front of the tent. You take note that both are clean-shaven with immaculate breastplates. Either this lord keeps some fine men about him, or he at least makes them look the part. They straighten up further when it’s clear you and Vaeron aren’t simply wandering past. “Ser Aurion Shryke calls upon Lord Guncer Sunglass,” you call out to the two. One looks like you just pissed in his very last flagon and the other just gapes. “Not a jest, lads. Run along now and tell him,” you say not unkindly as you continue your measured approach. That sends them both scurrying. They’ve only just announced your presence when you push through the flaps. All the better to gauge reactions. A man who by bearing alone must be Lord Guncer Sunglass is already seated behind a wooden table. He wears no armor aside from jewelry. Moonstone crystals at that. You’d only need one guess as to where those came from. He’s somewhere around his fortieth year with neatly trimmed grey-gold hair. You wouldn’t go as far as to call him athletic, but he keeps himself in fair shape for his age without the belly so common on aging lords. Most importantly he looks completely calm, accepting even, in the face of your sudden arrival. Either he’s expected you or he is not easily phased. You also catch sight of a short, plump blonde with rosy cheeks. She might’ve been beautiful once, but time and children have taken their toll on her body. She has maybe ten years on you and is shaped like a pear with disappointing teats despite her weight. Cursed by the gods. She nearly spills her wine glass as she stares at you like she’s seen a spirit. You match her with a polite smile. Of course, the moment is spoiled when two knights in full plate step into the room with hands on the pommels of their swords. Lord Guncer regards you thoughtfully for a moment. “Leave us in peace,” he commands the knights. You give Vaeron a nod as well to match the gesture.“My Lord Sunglass, I presume?” you incline your head politely.“Ser Shryke,” he returns evenly. “Pray tell, what has brought you to mine pavilion without word?”>Fate and chance. Now you’re curious to know more of your neighbor. (Charm)>You’ve heard too much of physical and legal threats either from this house or their bannermen. You’d rather reason though it. (Convince)>To deliver a warning. Plain and simple. (Intimidate)
>>4266710>>Fate and chance. Now you’re curious to know more of your neighbor. (Charm)then convince
>>4266710>>Fate and chance. Now you’re curious to know more of your neighbor. (Charm)
>>4266710>Fate and chance. Now you’re curious to know more of your neighbor. (Charm)
Let's do it. >Can I get 3 rolls of 8d6 for Charm? DC 24
Rolled 4, 2, 1, 1, 3, 1, 2, 3 = 17 (8d6)>>4266846Overpowered
Rolled 5, 6, 6, 6, 6, 5, 3, 1 = 38 (8d6)>>4266846
damn, we are charming
Rolled 4, 4, 5, 2, 3, 1, 5, 2 = 26 (8d6)>>4266846
>>426685137I think we got this...and we have magnetic. Well fucking well.
“Fate I’d reckon, my lord. I’m here for the wedding and thought to have a look about for promising young knights. I saw your banner out front and thought, ‘why not learn more of my new neighbor?’”“Fate,” he mulls the word over ponderously. “I would allow for such. Who are we to say what the gods have in store for us?”“Just so, my lord. Fate and the Seven have given me bountiful rewards for my striving just as they’ve brought us together in this moment. I was loath to let such an opportunity pass by,” you tell him.“Do you mock us, ser? ‘Bountiful rewards’ by which you mean my family’s ancestral lands?” the woman cuts in. “This is my cousin, the Lady Tysane Sunglass. She is wife to my bannerman, Ser Gareth Rambton,” Lord Sunglass introduces.“Truly? I had heard tales of the Lady Tysane’s beauty since I was a boy. I had not expected to find my lady here of all places,” you smile.She’s a bit taken aback by your assured, friendly manner, but still bites off a retort. “Were you expecting to find me when you sacked Rambton, ser? We had word of your intent and my husband has not been idle.”“I did speak of such, my lady. Often and loudly. Then I thwarted a muster at Sharp Point instead,” you shrug. “I lead a Free Company. We fight to win. I do hope you’ll pardon the misdirection.”“Sharp Point? Lord Maldon…”>Can I get 3 rolls of 3d6 for Cunning? DC 12
Rolled 6, 1, 5 = 12 (3d6)>>4266905
Rolled 1, 5, 2 = 8 (3d6)>>4266905
Rolled 3, 1, 6 = 10 (3d6)>>4266905
The rest of her asking washes over you like a muffled oar. Lord Maldon. Is that the way of it, then? By what accounts are known to you, Maldon Bar Emmon hadn’t been lord for a fortnight when you put a bloody end to his misrule together with your sworn brothers. To know of his ascendancy and not know of his demise… Fate indeed. Perhaps the gods have granted you another boon. Or it’s just the force of your personality coaxing out platitudes best left unvoiced. Any road, this woman has all but confessed of a personal connection with a known poisoner and plotter, one who sought to see you dead, who ended the life of one of the few who knew you past your titles. You glance at this woman. This would be usurper past her prime who has placed her hopes on an unripe boy and cravens. She looks for your answer. You will give it…>… in due time. Never underestimate the fury of a patient man. (Deception check)>Plainly state the man is dead. Lay out your knowledge of the plots and demand answer in turn. >Something else.Let's find out where this goes tomorrow. Until then, thanks for playing!
>>4266953>>… in due time. Never underestimate the fury of a patient man. (Deception check)
>>4266953>… in due time. Never underestimate the fury of a patient man. (Deception check)
>>4266953>Something else.We should make it sound like we reached an agreement with Bar Emmon. That we're holding his sister until his end of the deal is complete. Let's see how much she shits herself.
>>4266986+1The island's in chaos and the current Lady Bar Emmon is with us and not leaving without our consent. She'll have no way to confirm or deny. Make it sound like house Bar Emmon will support us in court and expose the conspiracy against us for a favor from us.This will trigger a convince check, yes?
>>4266953>Plainly state the man is dead. Lay out your knowledge of the plots and demand answer in turn.
>>4266986Agreed. He should be shitting bricks, considering by all accounts house sunglass was in on the assassin plot. And he doesn't know just how much bar emmon would give him up for/ "told us". We can even hint about knowing his him being allies with his and house Massey from what we found out from the letter that our wife informed us of. As a sort of "proof"
>>4266953i'll +1 whatever schemeranons work out>>4266986>>4266993>>4267048
>>4266905haha stupid bint>>4266986I like this, and it will be a Convince check I suppose? But how do we exploit it, if it works?>>4267048> We can even hint about knowing his him being alliesno. if nothing else, we should avoid giving them information for free. especially such explosive information
It would be deception: bluff.
>>4267157It's really to gain more information. Did she know about the assassination attempt? Obviously she knew Maldon was lord instead of his brother but she has plausible deniability on the assassination attempt. If we can get her to admit something in front of her cousin (who is very pious) we can drive a wedge between them. He might not like how we do it but we're not trying to be friends with him either
>>4266986>>4266993Supporting.>>4267427>we're not trying to be friends with himWhy not? He hasn't been implicated in anything. It's hard to be mad at him over only supporting his bannerman's legal claim against a literal who.
>>4267427I agree that she's the target here, but I think if we just blurt out an accusation she will clam upbest keep her talking, let her sink herself further
>>4267474I'm not saying that we are trying to be enemies either. I think the best we can hope for is neutrality while he disowns his cousin.>>4267476Precisely, that's why we need the deception to lure her into a trap
>>4267545are you just feigning misunderstanding, or what?it's not a lure you're proposing. what's alluring about hinting we know she's a treasonous cunt?
>>4267776Are you? How can he be misunderstanding his own write-in? Talking about lord bar emmon being alive and in our pocket is straight lying, not hinting at anything.
>>4267801This anon gets it. I'm heading to the cabin. You're in charge of this ruse, ser.
Forgot it’s Thursday. Continuing tomorrow.
I'm going to need 3 rolls of 5d6 for Deception (Bluff) for later. Might as well do them early in case I find time to write.
Rolled 6, 6, 1, 5, 5 = 23 (5d6)>>4269658
Rolled 4, 5, 2, 2, 1 = 14 (5d6)>>4269658
Rolled 4, 2, 2, 3, 3 = 14 (5d6)>>4269658
>>4269658Sorry if it’s a bother, but what software do you use for family trees?
>>4269718Can't say I've done a whole lot of formatting. I have a pretty massive google doc with all the houses relevant to the quest that I'm putting the final touches on. From there, I was looking at microsoft word's smart art--->hierarchy template. It could be more user friendly though.
“Lord Maldon is quite well, my lady. He may have lost the battle, but we’ve since come to an understanding. You may have heard… well, I’m certain you know, that an attempt was made on my life in my very seat. A dear friend sacrificed herself for me, but not in vain. You see, I captured the assassin and he told me a great deal. This pointed me towards Lord Maldon,” you explain, keeping your eyes fixed on her. “Lord Bar Emmon would deal in such dishonorable circles?” Lord Sunglass says with disgust.“It saddens me but yes, my lord. However, he is not unrepentant. He has given me his sister, Lady Cassandra, as a ward. A simple arrangement as my lady wife is a friend from before this dreadful war. Further, my Lord Maldon has agreed to lay his sins before the crown as penance,” you tell him before shooting a glance back to Lady Tysane. She’s beginning to look sickly, her blotchy cheeks draining of color.“I will pray the Father will take this into account,” Lord Guncer sighs.“As will I, my lord. I’m sure it will be sweetened with the names of his coconspirators. Lord Maldon has assured me the others had a great deal bigger part in it than he did. For the sake of our budding friendship, I’m inclined to take him at his word. Together, we will root out the sinners with the backing of the crown,” you say, then turn to Lady Tysane with your smuggest, most knowing smirk.She breaks in the face of your confidence, tears rolling down her face and lips quivering. “My lady are you well?” her lordly cousin asks.“We did what we did for the good of the family,” she chokes out.“I’m sure you did,” you allow.“I beg your pardon?” Lord Guncer looks between you both with mounting unease. He’s not yet caught on, or he desperately wants not to.“It seems my Lady Tysane has something she would like say,” you prompt. You don’t know this pious lord so well, but it’s clear she does, and the prospect of voicing such sins to him is killing her… but Lord Guncer knows her as well, and fixes her with a sad, resigned look.
>>4270532“Voice it,” he quietly urges.“Ser Shryke toys with us. He already knows,” she tries. Her cousin continues to stare her down until she withers and relents. “We had an agreement with Lord Maldon. An alliance. House Massey as well.”“Who. Who did? Speak plainly, cousin, if there is any love you still bear me. I would hear it all. There will be no sins of omission at mine table,” he declares.“My husband and I met with Lord Maldon, he wasn’t a lord at the time… Ser Lorton Massey was also present. We--- we sought to reclaim my Hugh’s birthright. Lord Maldon precured the assassin, he is a filthy liar,” she spits the last. “But you knew of it. You encouraged it,” Lord Guncer softly summarizes. “You turned to me when your plot failed. Were any of the tales you told me true?”“Hate to ask, but what tales?” you cut in.“Tales of atrocity. That you took your lady wife by force. That you killed good, godly men and burned your own sept,” Lord Guncer needs only look at your face to see the truth of those words.>Let Lady Tysane answer this. See what she has to say.>No, that's quite enough from her for the moment. Convince him of how ridiculous this is.
>>4270537>>No, that's quite enough from her for the moment. Convince him of how ridiculous this is.Silver Tongue, I choose you!!
>>4270554Ditto We’re the most charming man in Westeros
>>4270537>No, that's quite enough from her for the moment. Convince him of how ridiculous this isMention how ours is a love match and our wife gave up much to be with us, so these accusations are even more terrible. Also of our deal with the Faith, in fact our wife is getting our septon right now as we speak.