Were you to travel the stars, across this vast universe, no doubt tales of a mighty warrior race would reach your ears. Many speak of the Saiyans with awe and wonder, marveling at their power and aspiring to become like them. Others speak in hushed tones, of the fear and despair in facing the warrior race in battle. But one thing all agree on, is that standing against the might of the Saiyan race would spells certain doom. Many have tried, several going as far as to invade the Saiyan’s homeworld of New Salda. Yet every invasion has failed, defeated by the Saiyans and their most powerful warriors: the golden-haired Super Saiyans, and the green-haired legend who leads them. But once more they march, leaving their home behind and advancing into the heart of their enemy’s territory. Which side will triumph, and who will perish?Welcome to Saiyan Conqueror Quest, the story of an alternate timeline in the greater Dragonball world. Currently it is Age 749 and you the players control Karn: once an ordinary Saiyan warrior with a meager powerlevel of 2,830. Throughout your many adventures, the “Dragon of New Salda” has grown into the radiant symbol of Saiyan might. Now as a PTO general with a powerlevel of 21,887,000 and close friend and confidant of Lord Freeza himself, Karn has become one of the strongest beings in the entire universe.Character sheets and other info:https://pastebin.com/u/GrandDragonQMArchive:http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Saiyan+Conqueror+QuestQuest rules are as follows:>20 minute voting windows, pick ONE option when voting(unless otherwise noted)>Dice rolls are all best of three, only correctly rolled dice pools will count>Crits are 100 on a d100(a 99 or paired rolls may net you an extra bonus)>Crit fails count -only- if no roll passes the DC, or if two different 1s are rolled which will OVERRIDE even a critical success, resulting in a catastrophic crit failure>Write-ins are both allowed and encouraged.That said, they can and will be shut down if too out of character/metagamey. With over 120 episodes behind us, Karn now has a well-established character>I can change any of the above rules at any time for any or no reason>Have funSCQ will usually start every Saturday at noon Eastern Standard Time, and run throughout the weekend. Also, for updates or schedule changes you can find me on twitter @GrandDragonQM, which I try and keep as up-to-date with scheduling as possiblehttps://youtube.com/watch?v=Ms9YQiOUPScCurrent Arc: The Great War
>>4362219Previously on Saiyan Conqueror Quest:After Future Chaya and the Time Patrol’s own Ace of all people arrived, Karn attempted to battle the wild Meloka only to get heavily damaged and pass out. Waking up, he finds himself in the Time Nest only to find out Future Chaya and your Towa’s home was destroyed by a demon named Mechikabura. With Towa and Future Chaya by his side, Karn witnesses a Time Patroller summon a wish-granting dragon before returning back to his own time. Now back in the fray, Karn destroyed the Covenant warriors as the massive worm colony beneath the planet before destroying the escape ship. With only a few enemies left Karn quickly mopped them up, leaving the planet scoured of all life save for himself. And as we rejoin Karn, you’ve just finished giving Freeza a quick report.“And that was the last of them.” you say, ending the report. “And that’s it from my end. Have you heard anything from the others yet?”“As a matter of fact I have.” Freeza tells you. “King Vegeta, and Sorbet with the Ginyu Force have finished conquering Dal Na’ava and Dal Nu’uvo. Now they’re all on their way to Planet Dovair. And just before you called in, one of you students informed us that they’d finished oft the Covenant fleet hidden on Ju’Kahn.”“Excellent. Any casualties?” you ask, slightly worried. You fought a few Sangheili here who would’ve been tough for your students.“No fatalities, but more than a dozen mildly to moderately wounded.” Freeza says, you audibly sighing out in relief. “Now that that’s finished, you should head on back to the ship. We have a few weeks before we’ll reach the next system. Unless you’d rather spend that time alone in the pod?”“I’m heading back now.” you reply, closing your Assault Pod’s door as you sit down. Ending the comms you relax back into the seat, feeling the slight lurch as your pod rises once more into the air. Laying back you relax and close your eyes, yet as soon as you do the pod slams into something and lurches.“Landing successful.” the automated voice says, you looking around confused for several moments before opening the pod.“Well well, look who’s finally back.” Turles taunts, you pulling yourself out of the pod and looking around. You notice several techs working on other Assault Pods, which have been clearly damaged by battle as you and Turles clasp forearms. “Took you long enough.”“Me and my team took three planets. How about you?” you reply, your friend unable to contain his shock. Apparently he hadn’t been told what happened after your team took the first world, you briefly filling him in on everything that happened including the savage Meloka. “So anything interesting happen on your end?”cont
>>4362223“Oh, there was something interesting alright.” he replies, smirking as if he knows some great secret. “But I think he’d rather tell you himself. Speaking of, King Vegeta also wants to talk to you about something. Had me hanging out around here, waiting for you to arrive and let you know in-person.”“That’s odd.” you comment, confused. King Vegeta knows telepathy, if he wanted to tell you something he would have just told you. Wouldn’t he?“Something seemed to be bothering him, but I didn’t pry.” Turles replies, hands going behind his head casually. Yet you can notice a tension in how he’s carrying himself, as if he knows more than he’s letting on.But what do you do?>Telepathically ask Turles what’s really going on>Telepathically ask Vegeta what’s really going on>Instant Transmission to Vegeta, and see what he wants>Telepathically tell Vegeta you’ll catch up with him soon, and go see Meloka first>Tell Vegeta you’ll be there shortly, but check up on your injured students first>Other(write in)30 minute vote
>>4362225>Instant Transmission to Vegeta, and see what he wants
>>4362225>>Instant Transmission to Vegeta, and see what he wants
>>4362229>>4362236>>4362250Instant Transmission over to Vegeta wins it. Writing
QM UPDATENext post is ALMOST ready, it’ll be out within the next twenty minutes-ish. A lot of exposition going on.
>>4362225“Alright, I’ll see what he wants.” you reply, bringing your right hand up to your forehead. Focusing your senses, you find King Vegeta’s energy radiating out from further in the ship. But he’s not alone, another power with him radiating with intense power. Placing your first two fingers to your forehead, you use your Instant Transmission to teleport to your king. Unsurprisingly your teleportation brings you into in a high-intensity gravity chamber, but what IS surprising is who’s in there with the king. “Wait, Bardock? No way!”“Well well, look who’s back.” Bardock says, voice a bit deeper and more threatening than usual. But that’s the least noticeable change, as standing before you is a whole new man. Pink fur has sprouted on his upper body, hair grown longer yet still dark. His power is far more intense than ever, your friend has done it. He achieved the Primal Saiyan form! “So, you ready for that rematch now?”“Your form won’t last for much longer.” Vegeta advises, you noticing he looks beat half to hell. Glancing back and forth between the two Saiyans, you quickly realize what’s been going on.“Training?” you ask, the Saiyan King nodding to you before you turn your attention back to Bardock. “What happened?”“We all went Golden Oozaru when our forces were ambushed.” he says, growling a bit under his breath. “So we attacked the ambushing fleet back, us and Nappa made quick work of them.”“But the fleet wasn’t the ambush.” Vegeta replies, a hard edge to his voice. “But a distraction. A lone Sangheili emerged from their base’s ruins, and somehow took both myself and Nappa down. If Bardock hadn’t transformed as well, we would have all been killed.”“A single splitjaw?” you ask, your own jaw dropping a bit. “Was it their new Arbiter?”“I wish.” Veget replies, almost sullenly as he looks down at his right hand. “Whatever he was doing, we couldn’t fight back against it. Any damage we dealt to him almost seem to reflect back against us. Nappa’s still in a healing pod, having grabbed the bastard and tried to eat him. He’ll be down for several days, at least.”“Then how did you beat him?” you ask Bardock. “Didn’t his damage reflect back at you too?”“Yeah he did.” your friend replies. “But whatever he did, when my own attack hit me it felt like something broke, and I turned into this. Whatever he was doing, it seems it couldn’t keep up with a Primal Saiyan’s power and speed, and I was able to kill that bastard.”cont
>>4362344“Well, at least he’s dead.” you reply, then turn your focus back to Vegeta. “Saw Turles when I got back, he said you need me?”“Yes.” he replies, mood darkening almost immediately. “While on our mission, we intercepted troubling news. We’re still a month or so from our next targets, but the Covenant aren’t letting us arrive without a fight. We’ve discovered a massive fleet of enemy warships are forming, and will intercept us in about three weeks. The problem is, there aren’t any habitable planets left between us and them, meaning fighting back will be difficult to say the least. Arctus and Tekkadan seem confident in their abilities, but I still worry. If they lose, all our people could die out here in the void of space before making it to anywhere with a breathable atmosphere.”He’s clearly worried, but what can you say? What can you do?Well?>Between them and of course Freeza, the ship’s in no real danger Trust in your friends and allies to do their part>Offer to Instant Transmission to the fleet as soon as they’re in range, and wipe many of them out as you had over Planet Navlan>Tell him when they get close you’ll use your Foresight again, to see what they’ll do and how you should react>Say he should meet with the techs, see if they can put something together that would allow him and maybe a few others to fight in space for a time>Other(write in)30 minute vote
>>4362346>Tell him when they get close you’ll use your Foresight again, to see what they’ll do and how you should react>Say he should meet with the techs, see if they can put something together that would allow him and maybe a few others to fight in space for a time>Inform Vegeta about the possibility that they can make stand users
>>4362346>>Offer to Instant Transmission to the fleet as soon as they’re in range, and wipe many of them out as you had over Planet NavlanOur ship is a big bitch, she can take some punishmentthat doesn't mean we can't soften the defenses before Arctus and Tekkadan can strikealso id like to add>warn Bardock to not stay in that form for too long else he may lose control and start eating everything he seesi've been catching up to the quest and remember this bit of advice Future Chaya told us
>>4362351>>4362358>>4362362>>4362385Interesting. Alright, roll me a 2d100.First DC: ??Second DC: 45
Rolled 88, 27 = 115 (2d100)>>4362388what are we even rolling for
Rolled 12, 58 = 70 (2d100)>>4362388rolan
Rolled 7, 37 = 44 (2d100)>>4362388
>>4362389>>4362390>>436240088/100, 58/100. Interesting, writing.>>4362389You’ll have to wait and see
>>4362389I wish I had kept the meme, but every action is a roll dawg.
>>4362346“It’s not that big of a problem.” you tell him, and quickly fill him in on how your battle over Planet Navlan went. “So, if I use Instant Transmission as soon as their ships are within range, I can cause enough damage for Tekkadan to sweep through them and finish this battle before it really starts.”“I see.” he says, hand to his chin as Bardock paces back and forth like a caged animal. “Hitting them with a preemptive strike could easily decide this battle. This could turn the entire battle around.”But as he talks your instincts suddenly wake up, and with a surge of intent you transform. Your body expands, power surging as you take the most powerful form you possess. And not a moment too soon, you crossing your large arms and blocking a heavy blow from Bardock. Despite being in your strongest current form, and blocking the hit, his strike still sends you sliding back across the floor.“Tch!” you snarl, planting your feet and bracing yourself for his attack. Bardock doesn’t hesitate, dashing in and closing the fistance once more. You swing down with your left arm down in a hammer fist, Bardock twisting aside and slamming his left fist into your jaw. The hit staggers you, but using this to your advantage you use the momentum and slam your right arm into his now-exposed back with enough force to send him flying. “HRRAAAAA!!”Your counter launches Bardock into the far wall, who hits with enough force to bounce before he flips to his feet, launching himself right back at you.“RRRRAAAAAAA!!” he roars, you both slamming your left fist into his right. And to your surprise he can’t budge you, as his power suddenly plummets. Bardock quickly reverts back to his base form, and the enhanced gravity slams into him like a sledgehammer. Your friend falls hard to the ground, unmoving. A second later the lighting quickly reverts from red to normal, Vegeta having gone to deactivate the enhanced gravity as soon as Bardock’s power began to falter. You sigh out, reverting to your own base as Vegeta walks over, hand to his scouter and opening comms.“Bardock’s finally worn himself out, take him to the healing pods.” Vegeta orders, ending the call and turning to you. “You seem stronger than when you left here a few days ago.”“I am?” you ask, flipping your scouter on to scan yourself. And sure enough, your own powerlevel has indeed risen. Perhaps you got a zenkai boost from your ‘fight’ with that other timeline’s Meloka?>Roll me a 1d2000000+1200000
Rolled 1049228 + 1200000 (1d2000000 + 1200000)>>4362477
Rolled 100967 + 1200000 (1d2000000 + 1200000)>>4362477
Rolled 804532 + 1200000 (1d2000000 + 1200000)>>4362477
>>4362482>>4362497>>43625082249228/3200000. Not bad, Karn’s power is now at 24,136,500. Writing.
Rolled 1280775 + 1200000 (1d2000000 + 1200000)>>4362477
>>4362477“Huh, I guess I did.” you mutter, your scouter’s display reading your powerlevel at more than twenty-four million. But you turn it off, having more important matters to discuss with him. “Be careful when using that Primal power. I was talking with Chaya, and she warned me about her losing control and trying to eat even friendly people while transformed. Figured you should know, and Bardock too. Well, whenever he wakes up that is.”“He’ll be down for at least a day.” Vegeta agrees, a pair of the Royal Guard walking in and carrying the unconscious Bardock from the room. “Going Primal takes a lot out of you, but you can’t really feel it until you revert back to normal. Speaking of, are you going to start working on trying to gain this power as well?”“No. At least, not until this war’s over.” you reply to him. “With as out-of-control as that form is, I’m not going to risk using it unless there’s no other choice.”“I see.” he replies, not seeming disappointed by this. “Well, I’m sure you’ve had a hard couple days. Why don’t you take today off, and recover?”“That doesn’t sound like such a bad idea.” you reply, the two of you exchanging grips before you leave the gravity chamber. Leaving through the door, you look around and find yourself in one of the Lucrehulk’s massive, curved arms with people milling about everywhere. The majority of those walking through this indoor city are Saiyans, warriors of various power and the builders and technicians needed to keep everything functioning. And you now have the rest of the day to yourself.But what do you do first?>Go find Meloka, you’ve certainly missed the real her over the past couple of days>Check up on your trainees, see how both the injured and not are doing>Visit with the Ginyu’s, see how they’re holding up>Find Tekkadan’s leader, and make sure they know what’s coming their way>Other(write in)
>>4362623>Go find Meloka, you’ve certainly missed the real her over the past couple of daysWifey is the priority.
>>4362623>>Go find Meloka, you’ve certainly missed the real her over the past couple of dayswell i'm crashing the bed, see ya tomorrow
>>4362623>>Go find Meloka, you’ve certainly missed the real her over the past couple of days
>>4362623>Check up on your trainees, see how both the injured and not are doing
>>4362627>>4362633>>4362647>>4362673Go find Meloka wins, writing.
>>4362623That said, first things first, you once more focus your ki senses on the one you’ve been missing. Finding her tremendous power almost immediately, you lock onto it as you raise your hand again to your forehead. And with a quick thought and surge of intent, you once more teleport. This time you return to your room on the massive ship, finding your wife sitting cross-legged on the bed. But that doesn’t mean the room’s empty, more than thirty balls of ki hovering in the room. And as you appear, they all swarm directly at you. Before you’re able to even react you’re surrounded, unable to move an inch without setting all those explosives off.“He-?!” you say, unable to finish as the surprise makes you choke on your words. But upon hearing your voice Meloka’s eyes snap open, the orbs all retreating as she jumps off the bed.“Karn? You’re back!” she says, excitedly rushing over to you and hugging you. You return her affection, only realizing now just how much you’d missed her. “What happened, what about the time traveler? And Future Chaya?”Before answering her you sweep her off her feet, carrying your wife over to the bed and sitting on it with her in your lap. Holding her like this, you tell her about everything that happened. From the Covenant Stand users, to how Future Chaya and Towa are now part of the Time Patrol. And that the Time Patrollers have a magical wish-granting dragon at their disposal.“Wait, what?!” she shouts at this, completely surprised. “Are you serious?”“Yeah, I was surprised by it too.” you say to her. “But everyone got away from that monster Mechikabura and is safe for now, even our Towa. But what’s even wierder is that time Kai and Dumplin have both teamed up to fight against him.”“That can’t be a good thing.” Meloka says, you seeing her thinking over all the implications of such an alliance. “That demon has to pose a serious threat for them to team up. But enough about that, c’mere.”And she pulls your face to hers, you laying down on the bed beside her. After a time of simply enjoying each other’s company you feel yourself falling asleep, a smile on your face with your wife in your arms. You close your eyes, relaxing into the most comfortable sleep in days. Hours later you finally wake back up, Meloka unsurprisingly still asleep in your arms. During these quiet moments you ponder the coming battle, and what you can do to prepare.What will you do?>Focus on your Instant Transmission, on your speed in focusing and using it>Focus on ki sense, and how far out you can detect powerlevels>Some of your students were injured during their battles, you need to concentrate on pushing them past their limits>Train with the Tekkadan pilots and their mechs out in space, and see just what they can do>Other(write in)
>>4362908>Train with the Tekkadan pilots and their mechs out in space, and see just what they can doThe Tekkadan are probably the most immediately important force at our disposal.Our Instant Transmission is probably fine for our pre-emptive strike and our students know they can't just sit on their hands just because they aren't on the front lines for this one.
>>4362908>>Some of your students were injured during their battles, you need to concentrate on pushing them past their limits
>>4362908>Some of your students were injured during their battles, you need to concentrate on pushing them past their limits
Oh hey I just realized, we might actually get to use those EVA suits that we got offered during the first siege. I wonder what they look like.
>>4362908>>Focus on ki sense, and how far out you can detect powerlevels
Rolled 61, 82, 49, 28, 87, 45, 15, 12, 94, 33 = 506 (10d100)>>4362925>>4362927>>4362942>>4362963Looks like focusing on your students wins it. Alright then, time for training rolls! Roll me a 8d100
Rolled 90, 13, 15, 14, 91, 32, 69, 44 = 368 (8d100)>>4362971Here we go!
Rolled 33, 91, 99, 52, 28, 12, 2, 58 = 375 (8d100)>>4362971
...why did you delete your roll?
>>4362985...The fuck? this disappeared a second ago...
Rolled 16, 62, 47, 78, 34, 24, 53, 16 = 330 (8d100)>>4362971
>>4362984>>4362985>>436300090/100, 91/100, 99/100, 78/100, 91/100, 32/100, 69/100, 58/100. You had ‘em in the first half, not gonna lie. Writing
>>4362988>>4362992i didn't delete shit so i'm just gonna blame the site
>>4363041It was almost certainly some kinda lag, the site is as fine a target to blame as any!
>>4362908While there are many different types of training you could focus on for the next three weeks, as you lay there with Meloka in your arms your mind keeps going back to your students. Sure they all survived, but many of them were seriously injured by the enemy. You have to train them to be better; stronger, faster, and more determined to win than ever before if they’re all going to make it through this war. Once Meloka’s awake you tell her your plan, your wife agreeing to keep helping you train them. After a bit longer in bed you get up, but first talking with the kids and seeing how things are going on both New Salda and with the Hive War. Disturbingly, Caulifla’s Triumph has once more gone inactive, but on one of her ‘trips’ she met a so-called god who gave her a book and a bell. But it had to at least be a being of extreme power, as when she reads the stories and rings the bell together can heal a large group of people at once.After hearing from your kids, and learning what they’ve been up to, you and Meloka finally get up, dress, and start your day. First you head downstairs, Silver’s protégés having breakfast already finished and at the large table. Eating quickly, you both fly from the center to the left arm, where your students are already waiting for you both.“Well well, looks like everyone’s here.” you say, leaping atop one of the gravity chambers and addressing your students. “First things first, you all did well. Everyone made it out of not one, but two battles, so give yourselves a hand.”And they do, your soldiers cheer not only themselves, but you as well. Even a chant of “Karn, Karn, Karn!” breaks out, you seeing Lattu and Nion urging the others to join in. After a few seconds of that you shut it down, addressing them all.“Now then, it’s time to get back to work.” you say. “Despite everyone making it out, a lot of you got hurt. So for the next several weeks, Meloka and I are going to be pushing you all even harder than before. I hope you all are ready, because your new training hell starts now!”But what kind of training will you have them do?>Raw power, they need to be stronger to stand up to stronger foes>Focus on teaching them all Su Ma, so they can avoid or at least mitigate damage>Focus on increasing their speed, their opponents can only hit what they can catch>Teach your Energy Javelin, Death Beams, etc so they can do more damage with less energy investment>Other(write in)
>>4363158>Teach your Energy Javelin, Death Beams, etc so they can do more damage with less energy investment
>>4363158>>Teach your Energy Javelin, Death Beams, etc so they can do more damage with less energy investment
>>4363186>>4363203>>4363218Teach your Energy Javelin, Death Beams, etc so they can do more damage with less energy investment wins it. Writing(as you already rolled)
>>4363158You and Meloka divide the students up into groups, each of you working with small groups of five at a time as the rest continue to push their bodies in the other gravity chambers. You and Meloka start them off with learning the Death Beam; a fast, simple, and effective technique you both had picked up from Lord Freeza. The move is simple enough, focusing your ki into a single fingertip then firing it in a focused ray of energy. Most students learn the technique within a week, the top students able to fire their own beams to intercept ones fired from the other students.After learning that technique, however, you then tried to teach them all something much more powerful and dangerous: your Energy Javelin. As a technique built on the basics of the Ki Blade, they all have to learn how to do that first. Shaping their ki into a razor’s edge is more than a surprising many of them can do initially, but by the time your three months of training’s over, most of them can now use both the Death Beam and Ki Blade techniques. However more than half of them didn’t stop there, not only learning your Energy Javelin but going even further beyond. The top five, fastest-learning students were taken under Meloka’s wing, your wife teaching these move sponges several of her own unique, devastating techniques. The days fly by, and almost before you realized it, it’s time. While reviewing the Energy Javelin with several of your students, you suddenly get the call.“Tekkadan, all hands to your battle stations.” Arctus calls over the ship’s comms. “Enemy warships detected!”“Karn, what the hell’s going on?” one of your students asks you, sounding nervous. “Are we under attack?”“Not if I have anything to say about it.” you reply, telepathically reaching out to Arctus. “How long have we got?”“We’ll be within their firing range in five minutes.” he warns as you rush from the chamber and head back to your room. You need to get your armor, as well as your weapons before heading out. “Better hurry up.”“Already gone.” you reply, flying out of the left arm and to the central control orb. Rushing inside and to your room, you quickly drop your training suit and getting geared up for war. Two minutes pass from Arctus giving you the warning, and you’re ready. Raising your right hand to your forehead, you extend your ki senses. And sure enough, at the extreme far range of your senses, you can feel them: thousands, no, millions of beings are swiftly approaching. “Alright, here goes.”Which signal do you go to first?>Teleport to the closest ship, go ahead and attack it first>Wait to find the strongest of the enemies approaching, and destroy their ship first>Teleport to the first ship, then again to the very last ship and start your attack there>Other(write in)
>>4363379>Teleport to the first ship, then again to the very last ship and start your attack thereAh yes, a surprise pincer attack. God I love instant transmission.
>>4363379>>attempt to use Foresight to determine the best target
Leaving vote open additional ten minutes
>>4363384>>4363386>>4363413Going for Foresight to see how your options could go wins it. Interesting choice, roll me a 3d100.
Rolled 97, 40, 43 = 180 (3d100)>>4363427
Rolled 21, 87, 43 = 151 (3d100)>>4363427
Rolled 63, 94, 8 = 165 (3d100)>>4363427
Rolled 82, 83, 58 = 223 (3d100)>>4363427
Rolled 61, 67, 37 = 165 (3d100)>>4363427Ye
>>4363429>>4363431>>436343297 94 and dub 43 wat
Rolled 57, 39, 96 = 192 (3d100)>>4363427
>>4363429>>4363431>>436343297/100, 87/100, dub 43/100. Interesting mix, and going for the best results you see wins it. Writing.
>>4363440>94How the hell did I fuck that up? Anyways, writing
>>4362344Also fuck they fought another stand user and almost lost.
>>4363444Which brings up a key point in our strategy. Right now, we only have (to our knowledge) a single fighter who's capable of actually dealing with a stand properly, and he's also the point of Frieza's "spear" so to speak.That kind of gap in our armor has already been exploited multiple times, and it's gonna keep happening so long as it exists.What we need to do after this battle is take some time to at least check if anybody onboard the ship can see our stand or at least perceive its presence.How we do that though is the real question. And although I hope it doesn't happen, what happens if we can't find another stand user to shore up our blind spots?
>>4363379You may be ready to go, but suddenly aren’t sure quite what to do. What if whatever you choose goes horribly, terribly wrong? Focusing your mind, you sit down and close your eyes. You focus and try to once more use your Foresight, remembering what Bane had told you.“The future isn’t set in stone.” he’d instructed you while in the pod. Many things can change, especially if one chooses a different path. And despite your few days of intense training, it still takes several minutes before you begin to peer into the future. First, you focus on what would happen if you attacked the very first ship. You see yourself destroy it easily, hopping from ship to ship and destroying each of them in a fiery blast one by one. You then try and change your sight, switching your intent to focusing their strongest fighter. You see yourself once more teleport to the enemy fleet, and much like before destroy it easily. But before you can see any further, a telepathic voice interrupts you.“Karn, what the hell are you doing?” Freeza shouts in your mind. “I thought you were going to be out here helping?!”“Wait, what?” you ask, confused. “Has it already started?”“For a few minutes now!” Freeza replies, his mind feeling surprisingly angrily. “Are you getting out here or not?”“Yeah, right away.” you reply, focusing your ki sense on the battle going on right now. And sure enough, things aren’t as you’d seen. Tekkadan are already on the offensive, and even Freeza’s out of the ship right now. You’d spent so long focusing, and trying to peer into the future from a specific point in time, you’d already missed the start of the battle. Determined to make up for this mistake, you focus on the single-strongest Covenant soldier, and Instant Transmission right to him.“Wh-Karn?!” it asks, too shocked by your sudden appearance to immediately attack. Which is his downfall, you transforming into your Ascended form in an instant.“HRRYAAAAAAA!!” you roar, letting your ki explode out from your body in all directions. The Sangheili in gold-lined armor, his crew in the command deck, and everything else that’s a part of or inside the Covenant ship is destroyed. Your sudden attack catches the fleet by complete surprise, another half-dozen ships all damaged by your sudden attack.“Hey, woah! Did anyone hit that one?” Akihiro’s voice comes over your scouter. “What the hell?”“It’s Karn.” Mika says, as calmly and monotone as ever. “He’s here.”So you are. But what now?>Have Mika and Tekkadan’s fighters move through their ships to their rear, you’ll handle those up front>Teleport to and destroy the ships at the rear first, make sure none of them escape>Tell Tekkadan to get clear, give it everything you’ve got with a 100% Red Dawn and try to destroy them all with a single attack>Other(write in)
>>4363516>Teleport to and destroy the ships at the rear first, make sure none of them escape
>>4363516>Teleport to and destroy the ships at the rear first, make sure none of them escapeWe're gonna have to explain to Frieza what we were doing before the fight started. He seems pretty pissed off.
>>4363516>>Teleport to and destroy the ships at the rear first, make sure none of them escape
>>4363517>>4363519>>4363521>>4363530Teleport to and destroy the ships at the rear first, make sure none of them escape wins it. Alright then, time to go on the offensive. Roll me a 3d100.First DC 50Second DC ??Third DC ??
Rolled 46, 76, 2 = 124 (3d100)>>4363538
Rolled 97, 74, 30 = 201 (3d100)>>4363519he's not the only one. GD next time someone(me in this case) makes a writein please tell them if there are problem's with it. as is i'm fucking off till next week
Rolled 27, 62, 52 = 141 (3d100)>>4363538
>>4363540In all honesty, was probably the result of the dub 43s
>>4363556I'm pretty sure that our delay was gonna happen regardless of how well we rolled just based on the nature of the action taken.The double 43's either saved us a bitch slap from Golden Frieza or made sure we caught their strongest warrior by complete surprise.
>>4363539>>4363540>>436354797/100, 76/100, 52/100. Impressive start, writing.>>4363540I had assumed that, as the one making the call to use a technique that takes you several minutes to get going and you had only a few, that you’d know how that would go under the best-case scenario.
>>4363567Hindsight is 20/20Should've just gone in immediately it seems, instead we threw off our entire team with the plan quite a bit.
>>4363568If it's any consolation, we probably threw off the Covenant fleet with that one too. They have to be catching on to our Smash-and-Dash strategy by now.
>>4363496Keep going I guess. We dont have a way too make more except knock up Meloka
>>4363516“This is Karn, I’ve engaged the enemy.” you say to everyone over the open comm line on your scouter as you Instant Transmission into another warship. “I’ll handle the enemy at the rear, and keep any of them from escaping.”“Wait wha-?” the Covenant Sangheili you’d teleported to shouts, you interrupting him with a sudden Super Explosive Wave that completely destroys the rearmost ship.“About time you got out here!” Akihiro taunts you over comms. “We were starting to think you’d gotten lost.”“I knew you’d be out here.” Mika says, the two starting to argue as you Instant Transmission into the next ship, destroying it, another, and then another. But as you teleport to the next one, something’s different.“Greetings, Karn. It’s been awhi-“ a familiar worm says. Dressed in his usual garb, the Covenant wielder of the Stand Death’s Door! And beside him is a normal-seeming grunt, except it doesn’t seem as timid as many of the others you’ve battled with before. In fact, this one seems almost cocky. Without hesitation though you raise your right hand and fire a Scatter Beam at the pair of them.“I don’t have time for you.” you reply, but to your surprise somehow all five beams miss! The worm conjures his Stand Death’s Door between you two, your beams all passing through before it vanishes again.“Surprised?” the Stand user says, chuckling to himself as the doorway now appears behind him. Walking backwards through it, the door then immediately shuts behind him, leaving you and the grunt alone on the ship.“Come on, monkey!” the grunt says in it’s high-pitched, grating voice. “Give me your best shot!”“I don’t have time for this.” you say, leveling your hand at the tiny being before you. But somehow it seems even more smug, and as it shouts you see why.“DOUBLE VISION!” it shouts, your jaw dropping a bit at what appears. Standing before you now is YOU, down to the scars and weapons you’d swear that it’s you standing there. If you hadn’t used the Multiform technique before, then this would have really thrown you for a loop. “You may be strong, Saiyan, but can you beat yourself?”“I won’t lose!” both you and your double say at exactly the same time. Well, this battle has certainly gotten more interesting, that’s for sure.https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Rg9SkfrveM-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 136 End-
>>4363640Everyone enjoy the ride? Unfortunately I won’t be able to run tomorrow(I guess later today, depending on timezone) due to family matters, so this session will have to end here. Ready to battle yourself? Curious why Freeza’s upset, and what else is going on? Find out next time, on Saiyan Conqueror Quest!
I can’t lie, felt kinda gay to get into things late from that shitLogic set aside, it just feels bad man
>>4363649I probably should have double checked that everyone’d thought the consequences through. That said, I’m not going to “Are you sure you want to do that?” every time someone has a write in. Although this will be a good in-character lesson for Karn.
>>4363642Looking forward to showing this two bit copykarn what's what, thanks for the run gd. Normally I'd be concern that this thing could have some hidden secrets like the ability to trick the enemy stand into doing what it wants but since we have a conscious stand I think our best bet is tyo activate our God Dragon and see of he can deck this poser. If not then I guess maybe try out the Dragon sword or transformation. My biggest concern is the stooge escaping via death door stand user and leaving the covenant with a karn they can practice and observe. Sorry for rambling, just thought it best to keep my thoughts in a single post.
>>4363649I personally didn't see it coming, but it does makes sense to me. I'm fine with it.>>4363640I want to see if we can convince this Unggoy that his grunty thirst is better quenched in the PTO.Also if this double functions how I think it does, I'm pretty sure Karn would see through it right away. That said, I'm still debating whether or not it'd be meta-gaming to go for the kill immediately or if you've actually foreseen my assumptions as a player and planned around them.I'm not ready for this 4D chess GD.
>>4363640Okay. What is this Grunts bullshit.
>>4363774His bullshit isn't good enough, that's what. We can just rush his actual body with DDF while we hold the clone at bay.
>>4363991I think you might be going about this wrong. I get the distinct feeling that Double Vision's ability is specifically pitting their target against a mirror image, hence the name. If you treat it like another mimic or clone or whatever, of course you're gonna get your ass beat. If you treat it like an obstacle that just moves relative to you, then you'll have a chance at taking down the Stand user.That said, I could be completely misinterpreting what we know about this Grunt so far.
HOLY KEK IF THAT STAND REALLY IS A MIRROR IMAGE WE JUST NEED TO JOG BACKWARDS AND THEN SCATTER BEAM THE GRUNT WHEN MIRROR KARN PASSES BEHIND HIM
>>4364035That would be the dumbest shit ever. But also the best.
>>4363674Didn’t we use foresight fairly quickly with the wormboy though? The reason why most people thought it could be done in a reasonable timeframe is because previously we DID.
>>4364176I think trying to see "What happens if I jump into this hole." is a bit easier than "What happens to the overall battle if I teleport into a ship some kilometers away and blow it up.". You feel me?
>>4364322>I think trying to see "What happens if I jump into this hole." is a bit easier than "What happens to the overall battle if I teleport into a ship some kilometers away and blow it up."What if it's a big hole though?
>>4364372>What if it's a big hole though?
>>4364380>You're a big hole>For you
>>4363679Remember that you’re already in Ascended Berserker form. The Grunt is still here, along with his Stand.>>4363729>I'm not ready for this 4D chess GD.Hehehehe.>>4363774A Stand.>>4363991You can try.>>4364005>>4364035>>4364035>>4364100This will be interesting to see how you all handle this. I will say, don’t underestimate it, or you’ll pay the price.>>4364176Concentrating on a single, quick action after several days spent concentrating on it is much easier than after NOT using it for three weeks.>>4364322Practice is very important.>>4364372>>4364380>>4364404Ha.
10 bucks say his bithc can copy everything but our stand
>>4364882Nah if it was a perfect copy it'd just ice the grunt and tell us to keep our family safe before peacing out from existence. Mega-turbo-chad lyfe.
You know you don't have to stop running in a thread when you hit the 120 hour autobump, right?
>>4363516>“Karn, what the hell are you doing?” Freeza shouts in your mind. “I thought you were going to be out here helping?!”>“Wait, what?” you ask, confused. “Has it already started?”>“For a few minutes now!” Freeza replies, his mind feeling surprisingly angrily. “Are you getting out here or not?”>“Yeah, right away.”Oh no. Karn got late into battle.I thought Anon's intention was to try to quickly look into future to see on which Covenant ship it would be best to start the sequence of destruction, and then go into action right away. Not to mediate on the future for a long time instead. I guess Karn does not have high enough skill level in Foresight to do it so fast yet.>>4363640>“DOUBLE VISION!” it shouts, your jaw dropping a bit at what appears. Standing before you now is YOU, down to the scars and weapons you’d swear that it’s you standing there. If you hadn’t used the Multiform technique before, then this would have really thrown you for a loop. “You may be strong, Saiyan, but can you beat yourself?”>“I won’t lose!” both you and your double say at exactly the same time. Well, this battle has certainly gotten more interesting, that’s for sure.Awesome. Karn vs Karn.This will be superb battle.But then at the second thought I realized:>It is most likely Stand that made the Duplicate Karn.>It is becoming clear that the easiest way to win is to just simply and quickly kill the Stand's user.>But then that solution is so boring.>I'm really looking forward to a real duel with False Karn.I hope we are going to be able truly fight the Mirror Karn.Speaking of being able to test which Karn is stronger. >In an overall perspective we are fighting the Covenant at the moment.>Because of that I am already sadly anticipating that any nearby "Splitjaws" won't let us have our duel with Duplicate Karn.>When two Karns will busy fighting each other, the Elites may try to stealthily land some hits.>Unless even they won't be able to tell which Karn is real and which is "theirs".>Then again, they probably may try to kill both regardless.Maybe am I having bad assumptions about Sangheili warriors, but that's what I expect from them. Perhaps it would be tactically wise to just go for a fastest and easiest trick to win this.>But such an opportunity for a real duel with "Karn" is something very rare.>I'd rather not miss it.So yes, I wonder if some Covenant soldiers will try to interfere and disrupt the duel.> Hopefully not.>We don't get a chance like this everyday.>I really hope we get to test our true Karn against "their" false Karn.Time to prove who is the best Karn of all Karns.This fight is shaping up to be something special. >Sadly there probably no Vox cameras around.>Because I kind of imagine what the reaction of the crowd watching this live could be.Also:>Are Shin, Kibito and Kars watching those recent events via Godtube?
I got excited about this, and therefore:>For this special occasion I shopped this image into one from Vegeta's and Gohan's pictures.>Karn VS Karn.>I hope the head is not too big/small.
There was one matter I was thinking about.I wondering why is it that it is so hard to sneak up on Karn. Maybe I found something .>Yes it's true, that Karn's senses have always been acute.>Is that really all that is to it?>"Maybe it is just his normal senses paired up with his Ki Sense."Good argument, but Karn did not know how to sense Ki right from the start.Perhaps my memory may not be 100% accurate about this, but if I remember this right, it was like this.>During Saiyan Conqueror Quest 19 was the time when battle for Planet Kashyyyk started.>This world was conquered later by Saiyans.>It is now is known as New Salda.>There and then (Saiyan Conqueror Quest 19) was when Karn met Guardian (Yoda) for the first time.>Karn did not know how to sense Ki before that.>Only later after meeting with the Guardian he was taught how to do it.The moment when Karn learned to sense the Ki is important to this matter.>Remember Saiyan Conqueror Quest 11. >Lord Boros' ship>Killua Zoldyck tried to stealthily sneak up attack Karn.>Karn somehow sensed something was off.>In that seemingly clam moment he did not let his guard down.> And this allowed him to defend against young assassin.Karn sensed trouble coming even though he did not know how to sense Ki back then.How did he do it?>Obviously it has something to do with Karn's astute senses.>It could also be said that Karn have intuition.But I am suspecting that maybe there is more to this.Over time it has even became somewhat known, a rumor about how hard it is to sneak up on Karn.Here are two more interesting examples. >(Although Karn already knows Ki sense during those moments presented below.)Example 1:>Near end of Saiyan Conqueror Quest 58.>Karn is on his ship.>Earlier he decided what upgrades will be added to the ship.>Some time later he went to sleep.It will be best if I just post a quote from this thread:>"Sleep comes near instantly, that form having sapped your strength. You feel the darkness take you, drifting off to sleep.>You aren’t sure how long you slept, but suddenly you feel that you’re awake. Opening your eyes as well as your senses, you see your family are all back in your room asleep. Meloka is sleeping soundly in your arms, your kids all laying peacefully in their bed in a tangled pile of limbs. You smile at them, enjoying the moment, but something feels.... off. You can’t place it, but something doesn’t quite feel right. You can’t help but wonder if you’re just imagining things, you can’t see or sense anything wrong.Karn trusted his "intuition" and searched for "something":>A while later after what might have been seen as chasing shadows or looking for nothing he actually did found someone important.(cont)
It's best to quote the thread again:>Sensing danger behind you, you quickly twist, activating your Energy Blade. Your blade is suddenly caught between a pair of ancient, weathered hands, holding your blade at bay mere inches from his face.>“Impressive, Super Saiyan.” an old, mustached man says. “Your powers of observation are as astute as rumored, Karn.”>“Zoldyck.” you say, recognizing him and Ascending in a burst of sparks.Later Karn and Zeno Zoldyck had a conversation. But still, managing to not to be caught by surprise by Zeno Zoldyck. I think that's impressive.Example 2.Best to just post quote from Saiyan Conqueror Quest 124:> With the sparring match done you both go your separate ways, Vegeta returning to his palace as you go back to your ruined ship. You eat a quick meal before showering, falling into bed exhausted. Within moments you’re asleep, but after what seems only moments you’re awake. Everything’s dark, you hearing the subtle sounds of your family’s breathing around you. But something’s wrong. Slipping out of bed, your instincts warn you that something is coming. Slipping out of bed silently, you stand beside your bed and listen. You don’t hear anything that stands out,Later it turned out to be that it was Kars skulking on Karn's ship.So yeah both of those examples show a situation where everything seemed fine, nice, quiet and peaceful.>Nothing to worry about.>Right?Yet somehow Karn this hunch, and each time it proved to be correct.Yes, we know that Karn's senses are astute.> But I think there is really something more to this.Remember when Karn first had a contact with Geryuganshoop in Lord Boros' ship?> Geryuganshoop communicated to Karn telepathically.>From just this Karn had naturally and without any real training picked up this ability.>Yes, he learned it like this.>To learn it like that is something unusual and hints a hidden talent.Telepathy is a skill that may come for example from Psionics, Magic or the Force.I can't prove or disprove if Karn has Psionic potential. >However there is something that has already been discovered and confirmed. It has been said that Karn is strong in the Force.>However he did had little training with it.>But still.Both his experiences with:>telepathy >and unusually high observation skills, sometimes seemingly picking up on things that should have not been perceivable with senses and even Ki Sense>both of those point to the...>Force.What if Karn has been "observing" and perceiving the world around him with not just his sense and his Ki Sense?What if he has also been "seeing" the world with the Force?>Albeit it is something that he has been doing unconsciously.What do you think about this theory?
>This thing I posted above about the Force is tied to what I'm about to post now.I was thinking again about finding some way to perhaps increase the benefits of Karn's training. And not only that, but also turn Karn from being very lethal, to even more lethal.So base of the plan is related to the Force:>It has been said that Karn is strong in the Force.> That itself is a rare gift and an opportunity, as many beings in the universe are not even barely force sensitive.>However if it will be just there unused, Karn will never unleash this potential.>It would be sad to waste something so strong and so rare.It also has been said that his skills are at rather beginner level.>As we seen in this thread.>His Foresight right now too slow to be used as we want it to.>His still learns Force Lightning. Luckily for us those particular skills are not necessarily needed for the plan.>So yeah there's one skill with the Force he is actually quite good at.>Telekinesis.He even does it somewhat unintentionally when he tries to do something else.Quote from Saiyan Conqueror Quest 129:>And for the next hour or so the ancient Sith tries to teach you to utilize one of the more destructive offensive techniques of the Dark Side: Sith Lightning.>And while you’ve been trying to copy it, you haven’t had much success. >As with each time before, you don’t unleash it as electricity, but as a wave of nearly-unstoppable telekinetic force. >After two dozen failed attempts he finally calls you to stop, giving a few pointers before returning back into the pyramid.Another example is last Saiyan Conqueror Quest 135.>Karn used telekinesis to grab and crash entire escaping Covenant ship.So when it comes to telekinesis Karn can do something, and that is great, because it could be utilized in many interesting ways. There's this idea.>Karn enters Gravity Chamber and stets it to high performance. >Karn transforms into Berserker.>Now Gravity Chamber is to weak, but here comes time for the trick.>He focus all of his Force to use telekinesis to create something...> A floating telekinetic (Karn sized) bubble of very high pressure that attempts that crush squish anything that's inside.>Karn enters the harmful bubble himself.He is now in his personal portable bubble shaped pseudo Gravity Chamber.>Being in it would be kind of like being deep underwater under high pressure.>His movements would be suppressed and hampered.>Similar to what is like in a gravity chamberHe would now train while maintaining this around himself to make it harder for himself.>Possibly make it hard enough to gain improvement in base power level while being transformed into Berserker.He would be also mastering the Berserker transformation during this.> As soon as Karn finishes that he could immediately switch to Ascended Berserker to master this one now.
>>4366305Another thing is that as Karn get better at this Force and telekinesis thing, his " bubble shaped pseudo Gravity Chamber " would get stronger and more useful.>Sort of like upgrading the Gravity Chamber.The bubble only exists if Karn is focused on keeping him active.This is great because prolonged maintaining it's active presence will help strengthen:>Concentration and focus.>Will power.>Controlling and connection the Force.>Ability to effectively use his mind in battle/ training while performing intense mental focus.Now those things above are also very crucial and beneficial to:>Energy mastery / control / manipulation.>Reining the immense fury and rage that seems come each time we transform for the first time in any Berserker transformation.>(Not just the first time, those next times too, when Karn transforms into a new recently unlocked Berserker form, are just as furious, at least until Karn gains some degree of control over it). If I'm guessing right Karn is going to have to face that insane rage, but even greater, again when he first transforms into:>Berserker Super Saiyan 3>Emerald Ozaru>Berserker Super Saiyan 4 also known as (Primal Berserker?) (Can you imagine the levels of rage Karn will have to deal with then? ) >Berserker God>Apex BerserkerHaving this in mind I think training will power and those other listed above, would be very helpful. Like I said earlier training those things would also be beneficial to Energy Control.>Training Telekinesis would give synergy to Energy Control.That's important because mixing Energy Ki Attacks and Telekinesis has possibility to be absolutely and ridiculously powerful.What do I mean?Example 1>Karn throws powerful energy attack.>Enemy dodges.>Karn grabs enemy and slams him into the energy attack he just dodged.Example 2>Karn throws Energy Javelin>Karn grabs opponent with the Force and impales him on the Energy Javelin as if the opponent was some sausage on a stick.>Energy Javelin detonates.Not to mention ability to perform some seemingly impossible movements/ dodges with help of telekinesis.Just look at what Meloka can already do:>Swarm of Ki energy spheres that can explode upon contact, but not only that they also can follow the target like some homing missiles. >And they are actively controlled by her too, so she can even stop them from hitting the target if she wants.If she can do it, then this idea with Telekinesis and Energy Attacks should be more than possible, since it is actually much simpler.
>>4366307Telekinesis could be also used to hinder enemy's ability to escape, retaliate, or block in close combat.>Yes, it's a very dirty tactic but...>In a hand to and combat if Karn would use it to try immobilize enemy.>if successful would open opponent to receive massive damage from punch( or puncher) .>Even if just partially successful it could be enough to stagger enemy (or disrupt his movement).>That could enough be give opening for Karn to deliver a punch.Not to mention Force Choke.Another thing is that if Telekinesis is used to create spherical shield around user and is also combined with our Barrier technique then it would create two spheres overlapping.>One would protect from energy attacks.>Other one would block physical strikes.So yeah I think combining Telekinesis and Energy Attacks is really powerful combo available to Karn.>(It's also worth mentioning that Telekinesis is just one of the basic skills that are possible with the Force.)I think all of this is from theoretical point of view entirely possible.Now it would be appropriate to ask:>How far are Karn's skills from making it real?>If we made that Telekinetic bubble would it be strong enough to allow base power level improvement while being transformed into Berserker?If not:>How much more do we need to train Telekinesis to do it?>Are we like "Just a little bit more and you can do it".>Or is it "You need months of telekinesis training to even dream about it."Whatever it is I though this whole idea was interesting and worth sharing.What do you think about this path to make Karn stronger?
>>4366301>>4366303>>4366305>>4366307>>4366309It's cool and all that you looked so deep into thus for an in universe reason but we all know the real reason for the examples you mentioned is high rolls. Though force talk does remind me that there are,other energies beyond ki.Hey GD the reason we can't use Dragon Force ki techniques is because it operates on special god ki while karn doesn't, yeah? Than what about other forces like Force or magic even if we can't use the later? Since Force and no are both a form of life energy could both apply in each other's field?
QM UPDATESince this episode was so unexpectedly short, I will be CONTINUING it this coming weekend! So don’t look for a new thread, as we’ll be here! >>4364882If his Stand can, what then?>>4364891Ha.>>4366073I don’t HAVE to.>>4366295>Awesome. Karn vs Karn.>This will be superb battle.Yes it will. But->Perhaps it would be tactically wise to just go for a fastest and easiest trick to win this.The real question is: could you do it before you stop you?>>436629810/10 shop, saved>>4366301>>4366303Here’s another point, and i feel important to note from your observation: Karn was ASLEEP both times, fully unconscious, yet something woke him.>>4366305>>4366307It’s an interesting idea. While a “bubble” isn’t really feasable, as such a thing would take insane concentration and skill to maintain, he could train to simply push down on himself. Using all his mental might to force himself down, while resisting that with physical strength. Would take a lot of practice, and probably accidentally break himself more than once, but it could prove to be very beneficial. Especially against opponents, flattening them before they know what’s happening.>>4366309Chaya has already implemented such a thing into her fighting style, using telekinesis to nudge opponents like Cero ‘Trasum. Pic very related.>Another thing is that if Telekinesis is used to create spherical shield around user and is also combined with our Barrier technique then it would create two spheres overlapping.Telekinesis cannot, but barriers can be created that way. In fact, remember who taught you to create Barriers
>>4366646Also, didn’t mean to miss you but character lenghts. Dragon Force, in it’s previous form, can do things this form cannot. However, this form has power beyond both your, and even it’s, comprehension.
>>4366667>>4366674Thanks SatanAlso on the whole force gravity training combo, there is actually irl an form of training where you do something similar but instead of telekinesis the person forces their own muscles to both move and not be moved>Divine dragon force's ForceCould we use our force powers through DDF?>Though user and Stand are one DDF is able to act independently>Following this it could be possible to DDF to use foresight at the cost of it being stationary>Also on future force trainingI hope we can learn tutaminis as it is pretty much defensive Dragon's glare who works against any form of energy>in fact force drain is the offensive dark side equivalent and the main energy source of the scariest sith>Sith like Legends Sidous and NihilusI know it is unlikely as anons will prefer to train PL to gain Primal but a man can dream
>>4366758Unlike before, this iteration of Dragon Force isn’t a channel for your various powers. But while it is more narrow in scope and range, that’s more than made up for by it’s power.
Also matter a bit Unrelated to it all. >I in "suptg" archive I clicked "Vote For (+)" for Saiyan Conqueror Quest 136.>However now I see that the thread score is 0, and there has been 2 votes given to it in total. Maybe: > Anon who said "you don't have to stop running in a thread when you hit the 120 hour autobump " clicked "Vote Against (-)". >>4366638>Nice anon>>4366298>10/10 shop, savedThanks, I'm glad you like it.>>4366646>It's cool and all that you looked so deep into thus for an in universe reason but we all know the real reason for the examples you mentioned is high rolls.Yes true. But rolls are not everything. In universe lore and explanations matter and determine how far we can go, and how much we can get from rolling a solid 100 with a d100, and how much it will mean if we roll 50 on a d100.>>4366674> Dragon Force, in it’s previous form, can do things this form cannot. However, this form has power beyond both your, and even it’s, comprehension.But how to unravel the mystery of Divine Dragon Force's not yet discovered abilities?>Beside trying anything we can imagine with it once we have access to Godly Ki.Perhaps we just need to have it summoned more often and get more familiar with the Divine Dragon.>I propose to keep it summoned at nearly all the time.>I wonder if he has some distinct personality.>I mean I feel like we still don't know our Divine Dragon Force well. >>4366758>Also on the whole force gravity training combo, there is actually irl an form of training where you do something similar but instead of telekinesis the person forces their own muscles to both move and not be movedThanks, that's interesting.>Could we use our force powers through DDF?Cool idea.>I hope we can learn tutaminis as it is pretty much defensive Dragon's glare who works against any form of energy>in fact force drain is the offensive dark side equivalent and the main energy source of the scariest sith>Sith like Legends Sidous and NihilusI like the idea of force drain too. And yes Darth Nihilus is really special. However what about: >"The Sith Emperor, born as Tenebrae and later known as Lord Vitiate, was a Dark Lord of the Sith and ruler of the Sith Empire."He did stand out too.
>>4368175(In my post above I accidentally linked to a different post than I should. When I linked to post >>4366298, it should have been linked to >>4366667 instead.)
>>4366667>The real question is: could you do it before you stop you?Hahaha true if "False Karn" really thinks like real Karn, then he will know we might now try this or that.That fight is going to be crazy.>Here’s another point, and i feel important to note from your observation: Karn was ASLEEP both times, fully unconscious, yet something woke him.> fully unconscious, yet something woke him.> fully unconsciousTrue, that is very important. My main suspicion right now is that it is the result of his (despite it being untrained) connection to the Force.Though it could be speculated whether it may have different origin such as:>Psionics>Magic>Something else (???)I don't have anything to support those possibilities right now.>It’s an interesting idea.Thanks>While a “bubble” isn’t really feasable, as such a thing would take insane concentration and skill to maintain, Thanks for explanation.>he could train to simply push down on himself. Using all his mental might to force himself down, while resisting that with physical strength. That is a very nice idea, much more approachable.Something we could try to start doing right away.>Would take a lot of practice, and probably accidentally break himself more than once, but it could prove to be very beneficial. That is very good news that it could bring benefit to Karn . Though the thought of Karn accidentally breaking himself right now in the middle of a war is a bit concerning. We can't risk spending couple days in a Regeneration Chamber now. I bet as soon as we would get there (in the Regeneration Chamber) Covenat would attack hard trying to take advantage of the fact that Karn is not available among defenders.But that risk could be mitigated by going carefully with it. At least in the early phase, Karn would not be using his 100% full Force push on himself, maybe like 50%.The full 100% Force push would be used against some weaker Covenat soldiers, they would be our training dummies. We would not need to worry about accidentally breaking them too much. Karn could get a good sense of how to use it correctly. Once Karn gets more skillful in this, then he can use this type of training at 100% Force without worrying about hurting himself.And reap all the benefits. >Especially against opponents, flattening them before they know what’s happening.That is a splendid idea.Thanks GD for refining my initial thought and turning it into something that is realistically available to Karn. Something he can try to use right away.>Chaya has already implemented such a thing into her fighting style, using telekinesis to nudge opponents like Cero ‘Trasum. Pic very related.I read that. It was just moving Cero's arm, no damage done to him (but it caused his sword to miss Chaya's head), yet even just that was a great example of how useful Telekinesis can be.
>>4368175I’ve had at least one or two IPs downvoting almost every thread. Takes some pretty solid dedication, if nothing else.>But rolls are not everything.Yes. A very important point. Just because you roll a 100 doesn’t suddenly make the impossible possible.>how to unravelGood question. Perhaps all these Stand battles will let you learn more of it?>>4368186The most important point.>Thanks GD for refining my initial thought and turning it into something that is realistically available to Karn.Always fun to have an anon thinking of plans. And yes, telekinesis can be extremely useful.
>>4366307>>Berserker Super Saiyan 3>>Emerald Ozaru>>Berserker Super Saiyan 4 also known as (Primal Berserker?) (Can you imagine the levels of rage Karn will have to deal with then? )>>Berserker God>>Apex Berserker>Having this in mind I think training will power and those other listed above, would be very helpful.just commenting on these, we're pretty unlikely to ever bother for Berserker 3 at this point beyond it being a stopgap for Berserker God, we'd get more benefit doing various training until Golden Freeza and or God Meloka/Vegeta were around to keep us contained while we went Mastering Emerald Oozaru.Though if we do go Berserker God the God Ki balances out the Rage so we're actually pretty zen in that form.But basically the most PROBABLE course of transformations is>Master Berserker 1, Master Berserker 2, various Misc training, but espessially Ki control/WP/PL, and going for Emerald Oozaru/Primal/Apex Primal.Or going Berskerer 3, the easiest way of doing so being the SSG Ritual used on us to instant unlock the form, and then using that to lead into Berserker God.
>>4369016I feel I should post some more in-deprh info in response to this, to clarify, so to everyone:SCQ INFO POSTFor Berserker 3, you would need to ask Meloka or Bardock, or perhaps another Saiyan who now has touched that power how they did it to start making progress sooner and paving the way as it were. As for Berserker God, it’s essentially a mastery of 3, and the “full” actualization of that path’s power. It is the mastery of self, and fully conquering and rising above your anger to become something more. Something even gods would fear. Transcending, in a word.Meanwhile Emerald Oozaru, then Primal and eventually Apex is less about going beyond yourself and instead becoming more in touch with Karn’s more bestial side. Although you do overcome your rage to transform from Oozaru to Primal, it isn’t about overcoming your rage in the same way. Instead of “defeating” your anger, you become more attuned to your bestial nature, and one with it.These two separate paths aren’t the same thing with different paint jobs, these paths will be a defining trait for Karn’s character. Although accessing the first stage of each path is indeed possible, you’ll eventually have to pick the path you will tread. Each way has it’s own strengths and weaknesses, and each one is a unique path to power.
>>4370423>It is the mastery of self, and fully conquering and rising above your anger to become something more. Something even gods would fear. Transcending, in a word.Would it involve going beyond our emotions entirely and tapping into nothingness? Because that's kinda what it sounds like.
>>4370548Not quite. You don’t become emotionless or anything like that. But going beyond yourself isn’t an inaccurate description. Breaking your limits
>>4370571In terms of raw power, does Apex hold an advantage over God in that respect?Would our version of God technically have divine Ki?How does our absorption of the Darklurker's essence play into things going forward?
>>4370423I’m real torn on which path I prefer Karn to go down. Previously I wanted him to pursue Berserker God, but after reading this I feel that Primal makes more sense for him. Either way it’ll be up for the majority of anons to decide.
>>4370579Strength in what way? Physical power? Energy consumption/power increase? Yes I know I’m dodging. But that’s purely to avoid metagaming.Yes. Which is one of it’s strong points. A mortal, attaining divine ki by himself. And that will depend on what choices you make.>>4370599Well, a lot can happen in the eight years in-quest before Beerus returns. There’s this war and Chaya’s, finding Babidi, dealing with the Machine Mutants, the demons still hunting you, the Herans, well you get the point. There’s still so much to do, and so many things that can happen between now and then. And there may not be as much time for dedicated, continuous training as one might think.
What i want to know is what happens in regards to the dark side powers for each path. Does going beyond anger cuck it or make it stronger than ever?
>>4370423Thanks for the post GD, and looking at it just makes me want Karn to go Primal more given how our Evade Death card has been our raaaaaage since the quest started.But man, that talk about God, that seems perfect for Broly. He’s grown past his anger, becoming a protector already, Self Made Godhood naturally seems the result of his path.
>>4370961>But man, that talk about God, that seems perfect for Broly. He’s grown past his anger, becoming a protector already, Self Made Godhood naturally seems the result of his path.Words of truth anon. It really does feel thematically fitting for Broly to be our Gohan in this instance. And by that I mean what Gohan could have become after the Cell Saga ideally instead of stagnating and putting everybody at risk. Something like a proper guardian deity who actually gives a shit about the people and planet under his protection. I wonder if we'd have to give up our title as Champion to him if he ever decides to take up that mantle though.
>>4370889That would be spoiling.>>4370961Your Broly has gone above and beyond most of his other selves already. It wouldn’t be out of his reach.>>4370972Still upset how dirty Gohan was done, but seems he ended up a better place end-of-Super than where he started.
>>4371714>Still upset how dirty Gohan was doneSame.>but seems he ended up a better place end-of-Super than where he startedNot hard to do honestly.
>>4370972Wait a damm minute this whole comparison of broly becoming an champion just made realise something, Had Dende not become an guardian cell saga gohan could very well had become one as an compromise between his nature and his responsibility, fuckin toriyama ruined my boy Brohan
>>4370423Now when you say ‘we can learn the first stage of each path but will eventually have to make a choice’, do you mean they we can achieve both Emerald Great Ape and Berserker 3, but can only attain Primal Berserker or Berserker God, not both?
>>4371714Berserk God sounds cool and I want it.
>>4371738Was more upset he didn’t get the final fight against Buu, considering he was stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku or Gotenks.>>4371803Well they wouldn’t have had dragonballs anymore, which is their most important mcguffin.>>4371970Emerald Oozaru is a go-between, once Primal is achieved. Once you reach the necessary power, you won’t go ape again. But at Primal/3, you’ll have to choose which you train if you want to go beyond.>>4372016If it’s the chosen path, it’ll be strong. Just to compare, same base powerlevels, Berserk God would be stronger than Blue Kaio-Ken but weaker than Blue Evolution/Kaio-Ken x20
>>4372105>Berserk god being weakerDidn’t it take some weird audience fusion to beat it tho?
>>4372105Beserk God is stronger as a base than Sayain god and Super Blue, and Super Blue Kaioken.As a Base. Holy fuck.
>>4372113Thats not what he said? He said that if both fighters had the same base PL, then Berserker God would be stronger then Blue Kaio ken but weaker then Royal Blue or Kaio-Ken 20.
>>4372118super blue is an improvement on Sayain god. Blue Kaioken is an improvement on Blue.If Berserk God is stronger then Blue Kaioken, it stands to reason its stronger than Blue and Regular Sayain god as well.
>>4372105So if we focus on Berserker Primal, we won’t be able to use Berserker 3? Or is it just that we wouldn’t be able to evolve Berserker 3 to Berserker God?
>>4372110Weaker than them *with the same base power*. Remember, OG movie Broly was far weaker than Goku/Vegeta/Future Trunks/Gohan.>>4372113It’s a very powerful form.>>4372118In it’s unmastered state, let me clarify what he means. Berserk God is stronger than the ‘normal’ route.>>4372134If you go the Primal route, 3 will not be upgradable for you. Same for 3, if you focus it you’ll not be able to train Primal.
>>4369016>>4370423>>4370548>>4370571>>4370579>>4370599>>4370620>>4370889>>4370961>>4370972>>4371714>>4371970>>4372016So good you have this discussion. So much important info posted.>These two separate paths aren’t the same thing with different paint jobs, these paths will be a defining trait for Karn’s character. Although accessing the first stage of each path is indeed possible, you’ll eventually have to pick the path you will tread. Each way has it’s own strengths and weaknesses, and each one is a unique path to power.Honestly I did not know that it is possible to have both of them only to a certain point. And that if you want to progress further you have to choose whether you go> the path of "Primal Berserker"or> the path of "Berserker God".Seriously GD that is a big news, like dropping a bombshell it changes the entire perspective on what can we do in our future. >We are in a situation where we need to choose between 2 (two) awesome options.>Yes I like both, but apparently we can have only one. Very difficult choice, but it got me thinking. Before we venture into any of those reads I feel like we need to really know them well. So we don't end up disappointed with the choice.> because we learn something important that would change our mind, but we get this knowledge after the decision is already done. Ok so I was thinking about both of those paths, Karn, and all that. >I posted below what seems to be reasonable information that can be concluded from what we know about those 2 possible transformation options.>This is to clarify the whole situation as much as we can.>I made some pictures to better describe what I'm talking about. Picture 1.>Karn is not regular Saiyan, therefore his possible path is different.>Nothing to miss really.>Karn's Berserker potential dwarfs massively what regular Saiyan path offers.The only little inconvenience could be that Super Saiyan God Ritual won't work on Karn like it did on Goku.>But Karn can attain Godly Ki without ritual.>All by himself.However I have a an idea for a shotcut.>If we would use Super Saiyan God Ritual on Karn right now he would not attain Godly Ki.>He would transform right into Berserker Super Saiyan 3, but no Godly Ki gained.But imagine a situation where we have Berserker Super Saiyan 3 already unlocked.>We then do use Super Saiyan God Ritual on Karn.>It would not put us into Berserker Super Saiyan 3, because we already have it.>It would most likely instantly get us to Berserker God and actually giving us Godly Ki tight there and then.That's my idea for shortcut. I wonder if it would work.
>>4372152Closest thing Karn has to a Regular Super Saiyan is Legendary Super Saiyan.>It's better than regular.Example:Power multiplier of base form:> Super Saiyan- 50x base> Legendary Saiyan- 100x baseNice. It gets better.>Ascended Super Saiyan- 100x base>Ascended Legendary- 200x baseWe have not unlocked more Legendary forms.Legendary Super Saiyan:>Looks cool.>Better than regular.>But really it's mostly useful when we want to be gentle and go easy on the opponent.> I mean by that not use our full power.Unlocking further forms of Legendary seems not really useful.Berserker Super Saiyan is all of that, but much, much better.Bonus question:>Is that Legendary Super Saiyan God path even possible?
>>4372156Berserker path, and also the best path in my opinion.As we can see:>From Berseker Super Saiyan 1>to Berseker Super Saiyan 2 (Ascended Berserker)>The path is undivided.But at that point option to go 2 different ways appears.>Those ways are not mutually exclusive yet.GD said about Primal Berserker, Apex Primal and Berserker God:>" Although accessing the first stage of each path is indeed possible, you’ll eventually have to pick the path you will tread."From what I understood by what GD said it goes like this.Karn can simultaneously attain those forms, and have them available to use:>Emerald Ozaru>Berserker Super Saiyan 3.From this point he can go further and attain both of those forms:>Primal Saiyan>Berserker Super Saiyan 3.But that is where it ends. At this point he must choose which path he will truly follow.>To reach Apex Berserker you must truly become in touch with his bestial side.>As I understand it this means giving up Berserker God, never going in that direction again .GD said about Berserker God:> It is the mastery of self, and fully conquering and rising above your anger to become something more. Something even gods would fear.I suppose:>To follow Berserker God path further means leaving Primal Berserer and Apex Berserker behind forever.In other news if Karn truly gets far in one of those 2 paths, he will lose access to the other one.However specialization will give (GD quote):> Each way has it’s own strengths and weaknesses, and each one is a unique path to power.
>>4372160Whan a Saiyan gets Godly Ki it's color is always orange/fiery.>Gods each have their specific color of Godly Ki.But Berserker God have his own color of Godly Ki too.>It's teal.>The Berserker state influences Godly Ki too.Interesting.I honestly have certain preference.I do admit that Primal is awesome.>But primal uses Mortal Ki.However Godly Ki is awesome in my perspective.Example from Dragon Ball Super>Transform into Super Saiyan using Mortal Ki.>It's ok, but does not stand any chance against Beerus and other threats in Super.>Not even Super Saiyan 3 with Mortal Ki make it in super.But:>transform into a Super Saiyan with a Godly Ki.>You get into Super Saiyan Blue.>Form that allows you to fight with threats in Super. So yeah I think Godly Ki is inherently stronger, and more useful to attain, and gives a lot of bonuses.>Once we obtain it we it will take us on a whole new level. From my perspective I prefer Beresrker God.
>>4372163I wonder once we get Godly Ki available we will be able to use it with our previous forms:>Berserker>and Ascended Berserker.
This post is a bit of a bonus, nothing important, you can skip it. I typed this before GD clarified that you can only get>Berserker 3And >Primal Berserkerat the same time.For a while I was thinking that it would be possible to get.> a hidden option.Which was available in a moment where you got:> Primal Berserker>and> Berserker God.From there you would >Transform into Primal Berserker using Godly Ki.>And thus accessing hidden pathPrimal Berserker God.I bet if we pulled it off it would be something that has not yet happened in any time line ever.>Pretty cool possibility if only theoretical.
>>4372167we could probably do something like that if we used the super dragon balls and the time loli didnt immediately NOPE our existence.
>>4372164>I wonder once we get Godly Ki available we will be able to use it with our previous forms:It should be:>I wonder IF once get Godly Ki available will we be able to use it with our previous forms?Also sorry for any mistakes in writing, I might have missed more. I hope it's understandable despite that.
>>4372173>we could probably do something like that if we used the super dragon balls and the time loli didnt immediately NOPE our existence.Primal Berserker God>Something like that could make gods feel uneasy.
I have an idea, but before I post it I need to ask GD, a couple threads ago you said Ace had more or less caught up Future Chaya in terms of Base PL right?
>>4372152The Super Saiyan God ritual will not work like a shortcut as you imagine here. But it is a necessary step to unlock that form’s full potential.>>4372156It is more akin to Kale’s progression in the ToP. Lose some of the power/rage in exchange for far better control and sustainability. As for a Legendary God, who knows? Your Towa is unaware of one such being.>>4372160Emerald/Golden Oozaru are in-between forms, and once the Primal state is fully achieved it will no longer be useful.As for your choice, each line has it’s own strengths and weaknesses. Certain techniques/abilities will only be available on one path or the other, and may influence how he’s perceived across the universe.>>4372163>But Berserker God have his own color of Godly Ki too.Because unlike the normal Super Saiyan God, the Berserker God achieves that type of power differently.To be fair, the same can be said of Primal. Just look at Baby Vegeta.>>4372167>>4372173>and the time loli didnt immediately NOPE our existence.A legitimate threat if it were ever realized. But she may still erase you regardless.>>4372210I’ll say this here, since she’s moved to Conton City, Chaya in her Apex form and Ace’s Blue Evolution form are now evenly matched. As for their base forms, that’d be telling.
So GD, a Berserker God is more dangerous than a Primal Berserker?
>>4372224>I’ll say this here, since she’s moved to Conton City, Chaya in her Apex form and Ace’s Blue Evolution form are now evenly matched. As for their base forms, that’d be telling.See, even that though is telling us alot, and soft confirms the idea I had.I'd say that in raw bigatons, Apex Berserker is the stronger form, with Berserker God having the advantage of God Ki tricks like that paralysis move Goku used on Broly in the Super Movie as an example. As GD said, Chaya's Apex Primal form ties with Aces Blue Evoltion, but Berserker Forms are 3X stronger then the normal SS forms. So Apex Berserker would be X3 more powerful then Apex Primal. So yeah, hate to repeat myself, but I'd say Primal = Dakka, God = Hax, but here's the funny bit. We already have DIVINE Dragon Force. A Stand with its own God Ki who GD has himself admitted has powers it doesn't even know it has. So desu I think we can sorta get the best of both worlds here with Apex/Primal Berserker Dakka + Divine Dragon Force Hax.Also and this is pure personal opinion here, but given the Very High likelyhood that Broly will go Berserker God when he gets the chance, I'd like to Berserker Primal, because we're the only other one who can, and it seems like fun duality to have with our son.>The Father Who Embraced His Primal Roots Of Divine Power>The Son Who Shattered His Limits And Achieved Godhood Via His Own EffortsLike, I don't really have the words for it, but that symbolism? really speaks to me.
>>4372246They’re both dangerous, in different ways. Each form has it’s own unique strengths and weaknesses.>>4372251The problem is, without divine ki, you can’t actually measure the difference in power between forms. And while yes, divine ki makes you stronger, that is a simple explanation. More accurately, it adds a whole different dimension to your power. The non-divine powers increase linearly, getting bigger and bigger numbers. But divine takes that 2-D graph, and changes it to a 3-D scale.>Like, I don't really have the words for it, but that symbolism? really speaks to me.Or you could flip it:>The Commoner who shattered his limits, rose above his being and became a god by his own willpower and effort>And his son, who disliked violence yet embraced his primal roots for the power to protect those close to himI’m a fan of symbolism myself, and glad anon(s?) noticed the Gilgamesh/Enkidu parallels.
>>4372267>>And his son, who disliked violence yet embraced his primal roots for the power to protect those close to himSee I understand the symbolism here, but realest talk, I hate this idea with a burning passion.Broly's lived his early years haunted by his power, scared that anytime he got mad would be the time that he came back to himself and found out he'd killed someone he cared about.With the help of the Karn Clan, he grew past that, he mastered his anger and power, and became determed to be a protect for the family who saved him from himself, and for the rest of his species.He shouldn't HAVE to embrace his primal nature to get strong enough for them. I hate the very idea of it. If chat decides to go Berserker God, I'd rather Broly go with us, and fuck the entire Primal Berserker Tree for our generation. Our sons earned the chance to become more then his anger. Fuck him having to embrace it for the sake of power.
Little do they know about the SUPER SEKRITEST form that is ABYSSAL SAIYAN
>>4372267>The Commoner who shattered his limits, rose above his being and became a god by his own willpower and effort>And his son, who disliked violence yet embraced his primal roots for the power to protect those close to himI love this.
>>4372307>With the help of the Karn Clan, he grew past that, he mastered his anger and power, and became determed to be a protect for the family who saved him from himself, and for the rest of his species.There’s a big assumption here, but would be spoilers for the future if I said which part(s).>>4372310Ha.>>4372322At this point Karn could go either way
Are berserker and legendary mutually exclusive?
>>4372370Yes, but also no. A Berserker may not necessarily unlock the Legendary forms, but they cannot be unlocked by a non-Berserker. Unless there’s magical, wish-granting planets involved.
>>4372420Sorry, I meant could someone feasibly do both at once?
>>4372425No. That’s like asking if someone can go Super Saiyan, and Ultra Saiyan like Future Trunks at the same time. But unlike in his case, the grading is the other way on the power scale.
Man, there's probably a parallel universe out there where, somehow, Chilli ended up being mentored by Babidi instead of Raven.
>>4372251>As GD said, Chaya's Apex Primal form ties with Aces Blue Evoltion, but Berserker Forms are 3X stronger then the normal SS forms. So Apex Berserker would be X3 more powerful then Apex Primal. Actually, Berserker transformations are *6* times more powerful than normal SS forms, you're getting confused with our Legendary SS forms which are twice as strong as a normal SS, look at SS 2 and Berserker 2
Saiyan Conqueror Quest 136 will resume in less than 24 hours! Hope everyone’s ready to battle Double Vision!>>4373051That would be a very scary Chilli.
>>4372224Thanks for explaining.>Emerald/Golden Ozaru are in-between forms, and once the Primal state is fully achieved it will no longer be useful.Nice, having all that power without needing t transform to Ozaru.>>and the time loli didnt immediately NOPE our existence.>A legitimate threat if it were ever realized. But she may still erase you regardless.So if I'm understanding this right. If we theoretically somehow get to Primal Berserker God:> the Supreme Kami of Time Chronoa's most probable and first reaction would be to erase all of our timeline.> Including Karn, his family and friends, everyone else and everything too.> And our Towa and her and Karn's children, Future Chaya and her (our Towa's) own whole timeline as well.>(If I remember right. Since the birth of first child of Karn's and Towa's those two timelines became connected)Not exactly a good news, but it gets even worse. >Even if we don't get to Primal Berserker God it does not mean we are safe. If Karn achieves too much or does something she does not like, she will erase all of it.I know it is not easy by any means, but:>maybe we should start thinking about getting a Time Ring somehow if there will be opportunity.> Imagine if one moment Karn suddenly discovers that everything is gone and nothing but him and Time Ring are what is left from his timeline.>At least it won't be over. >From that point Karn could try (among many possible things to do) get Super Dragon Balls.>Use them to make a wish to restore his timeline.But yes, I know that getting a Time Ring is probably something that can be considered mission impossible.
>>4372251>I'd say that in raw bigatons, Apex Berserker is the stronger formPerhaps, possible, but not yet 100% confirmed.> Berserker God having the advantage of God Ki tricks like that paralysis move Goku used on Broly in the Super Movie as an example.Interesting. The move is apparently called "God Bind" (https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/God_Bind) .>but here's the funny bit. We already have DIVINE Dragon Force. A Stand with its own God Ki who GD has himself admitted has powers it doesn't even know it has.>So desu I think we can sorta get the best of both worlds here with Apex/Primal Berserker Dakka + Divine Dragon Force Hax.Very interesting.>A Stand with its own God KiWhoa are you telling me that we really already can have access to God Ki? Because that would be allowing for some unbelievably strong possibility.Here is an example:>Only Goku went through the Super Saiyan God Ritual.>Vegeta never did it.>His only contact with God Ki was by fighting with Goku and Beerus who both had it.>Only this allowed him to somehow attain it for himself and learn to have it.>It went so far that he even go to Super Saiyan Royal Blue now.Another example:>Guardian (Yoda) hit Kars with energy attack that used Divine Ki.>This allowed Kars to obtain the God Ki for himself.So it is possible get God Ki like this, just from having a contact with it.>I must admit that while fighting Beerus in "Battle of Gods" characters such as Android #18, Buu, Tien, and Piccolo most probably had contact with God Ki too.>Yet they did not managed to obtain this God Ki for themselves that way.>Perhaps you need to be really talented, or be ready to hold on to that power to be able to attain God Ki this way.Still the option is massively tempting.Summon our Divine Dragon Force who has it's own God Ki.>Make the Divine Dragon to send some of that God Ki our way.>Maybe by some weak energy attack or something.>Or maybe ask him to simply channel God Ki to Karn.>The same way Karn does it when he gives his Ki to exhausted teammate to help.If we do this and Karn manages to successfully hold on to that God Ki it would be truly awesome.>I mean by that If we repeated what Vegeta and Kars did already.>Obtaining the God Ki just from having a contact with it.>If Karn would manage to make it happen it would be game changing.Just think what power Karn would have right now if he could use God Ki at this moment. This is just too good not to try it. >In my opinion God Ki is very strong.But that's not all. If that thing worked.It would open a hidden way to something that at first may seemed undoable.I'm talking about:>attaining Primal Berserker.>And then using God Ki to transform into Primal Berserker.>By doing this it would allow Karn to reach...> Primal Berserker GodSomething not seen before, a very exciting possibility. >Primal Berserker, but with God Ki.
>>4373366I was thinking what could be the mastery of that form?>Hypothetical mastered Primal Berserker God (maybe Apex Berserker God?).A form that utilizes both at the same time:> God Ki >and Mortal Ki >in perfect union.God Ki and Mortal Ki are not mutually exclusive, so for the mastered Primal Berserker God it would thematically make sense to be a form that has and uses both.>>4372267>And while yes, divine ki makes you stronger, that is a simple explanation. More accurately, it adds a whole different dimension to your power. The non-divine powers increase linearly, getting bigger and bigger numbers. But divine takes that 2-D graph, and changes it to a 3-D scale.That's why I'm so interested in Divine Ki.>>4373187>Actually, Berserker transformations are *6* times more powerful than normal SS forms, you're getting confused with our Legendary SS forms which are twice as strong as a normal SS, look at SS 2 and Berserker 2> Berserker transformations are *6* times more powerful than normal SS formsAwesome. So this means Apex Berserker would 6 times more powerful than Apex Primal.>>4373284>Saiyan Conqueror Quest 136 will resume in less than 24 hours! Hope everyone’s ready to battle Double Vision!I'm very curious about this challenge ahead. This is a fight unlike anything Karn have faced before.
>>4373284Terrifying, really.No offense to Raven, but Babidi has LITERALLY MILLIONS of years of experience practicing magic.
>>4373284What is xeno Vegeta's opinion of Karn?
>>4373476>Why couldn't he be MY dad too?
>>4373363What that means is there’s no currently-existing timeline with a Primal God Saiyan.>>4373366I already explained their differences here: >>4372267Also, your Stand cannot pass on divine ki to you. Other divine beings like Beerus, and perhaps Kars could, with enough exposure. But Vegeta trained for several months with Whis to use/manipulate god ki BEFORE the angel brought Goku along to Beerus’s world.>>4373370If that’s the path we go down, it’ll certainly be interesting. Not to mention potentially learning divine ki-exclusive abilities and moves, like Hakai.And yes, it’ll be interesting. Even more so if anons can figure out it’s weakness(es).>>4373380Yes. And his magical barrier can sustain damage(for a time) from beings on Piccolo/Kami fused and Android 17’s level. Which is impressive as hell.>>4373476Which Karn? This one, or the one Future Chaya grew up knowing?>>4373507Ha
>>4373566>Which Karn? This one, or the one Future Chaya grew up knowing?Both
>>4373580Xeno Vegeta has immense respect for Future Karn, after hearing Chaya’s story. Especially how he went out, finally taking down those who’d destroyed the Saiyans in a suicide charge instead of running away. As for current Karn, some of that respect bleeds over. But he wants to hear more from you directly.
>>4373631I swear, Xeno Vegeta has to come and visit sometime. I think he'd love to see what Saiyan culture could have been like if things worked out.
>>4373692He’s certainly seen it.
>>4373918Has he seen the duel between father and son that made our Vegeta a king?
>>4373918He hasn't seen shit if he hasn't actually visited, seeing it from a scroll is different than in person!
>>4373566>What that means is there’s no currently-existing timeline with a Primal God Saiyan.Ok, good to hear it. I was getting worried about the possibility of Karn's timeline being erased.>Also, your Stand cannot pass on divine ki to you. Other divine beings like Beerus, and perhaps Kars could, with enough exposure. But Vegeta trained for several months with Whis to use/manipulate god ki BEFORE the angel brought Goku along to Beerus’s world.Thanks for explaining.>HakaiScary.>>4374158>He hasn't seen shit if he hasn't actually visited, seeing it from a scroll is different than in person!I agree with this.Bonus. Quickly shopped not resized picture of Apex Berserker for potential future use, because I can't find pics of Broly SS4 with reddish hair. Though now with the arrival of a very good news that the Apex Primal is becoming canon I think we will soon have access to large amounts of high quality pictures of various Saiyans in the Apex form. That is a very positive perspective for the future.
>>4374554>When you miss an episode
-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 136 Part II-“I won’t lose!” both you and your double say at exactly the same time. Well, this battle has certainly gotten more interesting, that’s for sure. You are Karn, the Legendary Super Saiyan, proud father of several full-blooded Saiyan children with your wife Meloka and three half-demon children with the Demon Princess Towa, a General of the PTO, and wielder of the mighty, evolved Stand; Divine Dragon Force. Currently you’re standing in the bridge of a Covenant warship, staring down one of their grunts and it’s Stand. While he calls it Double Vision, it seems to be an exact copy of yourself! Down to the weapons and even scars, it’s almost like you’re looking in a mirror.“Double Vision, don’t let him near me!” the Grunt calls out, the doppelgänger assuming your fighting stance. “You may have defeated some of the others, but my Double Vision can’t lose to you. No matter how strong you are, you filthy monkey! Hiiihihihihii!!”“Tch. You think a simple copy can beat me?” you reply, retaking your fighting stance as well. While you’re certain that Grunt poses no threat to you by himself, you have no idea what crazy abilities this copy Stand has. If it knows all your moves, then even simply destroying the ship wouldn’t work as it could teleport them both away. And the Covenant gave you an entire ship here simply to battle in, while the rest of the fleet fight Arctus’s droids and Tekkadan’s mechs.Well, what will you do?>Rush and attack the copy, see just how good it really is>Rush the user, you kill him and this is over>Draw both weapons, and see if you can actually damage this Stand without using Divine Dragon Force>Rush the copy, then at the right moment use your Stand to surprise attack the user>Summon Divine Dragon Force, and see what they do>Keep your distance, use your more-lethal ki attacks and see how well this Stand protects its user>Other(write in)30 minute vote
>>4374579>Summon Divine Dragon Force, and see what they do
>>4374579>>Summon Divine Dragon Force, and see what they do
>>4374579>Aim and fire a death beam directly behind you so that if the stand copies you it hits the grunt
>Rush the copy, then at the right moment use your Stand to surprise attack the user
Rolled 34, 24, 80 = 138 (3d100)>>4374580>>4374581>>4374584>>4374586>>4374587Summon Divine Dragon Force and see what they do wins it. Interesting, roll me a 2d100.
Rolled 18, 50 = 68 (2d100)>>4374608
Rolled 79, 66 = 145 (2d100)>>4374608
Rolled 66, 4 = 70 (2d100)>>4374608
>>4374612>>4374620what does this meeeeeeeeaaaaaaaan???
>>4374610>>4374612>>437462079/100, 66/100. Hrrmmmm, writing
>>4374579“So your Stand copied me, huh?” you ask, idea coming to your head. “Well let’s see if you can copy this! Divine Dragon Force, come forth!”“Gwrooooaaaaar!!” your crimson Stand bellows, materializing around your right arm.“The Heretic...” the Grunt says, eyes fixated on your Stand. And to your surprise, your duplicate grows a copy of your Stand on it’s arm. But as you watch, you notice something. Unlike your usual Stand, which seems to fade out of existence around your upper arm, your copy’s dragon seems to be a part of it. It’s copy Dragon Force is growing out of the Stand copy’s shoulder, wrapping around it’s right arm. “The Heretic Dragon. So it is true then. Double Vision, attack! Take Karn down!”“HAAAAA!!” his Stand bellows, tossing a Scattershot at you with it’s left hand. You leap backwards, conjuring your Barrier around you. Dozens of energy shots slam into your shield and explode, but your Barrier holds the blasts back.“This could be trouble.” your Stand replies, studying your doppelgänger as it fires Scattershot after Scattershot at you. “It seems to have copied your abilities, including me.”“All of them?” you ask, looking down at your Stand as the copy’s attacks are all deflected by your Barrier. “Even yours?”“Perhaps.” Dragon Force replies, you dropping the shield as the energy attacks stop. “But I think it knows as little as I do, if not less.”“I see.” you say, the duplicate rushing at you. It punches with it’s right, the copy Dragon Force lunging right for your throat. Without thinking you block, swatting it aside with your left hand. And to your surprise it works, your hand connecting and knocking it aside. But you can’t think on the fact you just backhanded a Stand, raising your right arm and blocking it’s follow-up spinning back kick. Before it can continue you retaliate, you landing a solid left punch square in the copy’s back and launching it. The Stand flies away, smashing into the far wall and leaving the user wide-open. Without hesitation you launch yourself right at it, drawing your right fist back and roaring. “IT’S OVER! HAAAA!!”But as you swing, the copy appears between you both using Instant Transmission and blocking with it’s copy dragon.“Tch!” you exhale, leaping back and retaking your stance as the copy does the same.“You cannot defeat me.” the Grunt calls back at you tauntingly, emerald aura surging up around his Stand. “You will die today, ape!”What now?>Rush and attack the user, try and evade the Stand to end this now>Rush and attack the Stand, overpower ‘yourself’ and destroy it>Draw your weapons, try and out-skill the Stand and destroy it>Try your Multiform technique, see if you can out-maneuver them>Red Dawn, destroy this ship and continue destroying the ships before returning to this fight>Other(write in)30 minute vote
>>4374721>>Rush and attack the Stand, overpower ‘yourself’ and destroy itFor a second i thought it would mirror the damage we gave it back to us.
>>4374721>Rush and attack the user, try and evade the Stand to end this now
>>4374721>Rush and attack the Stand, overpower ‘yourself’ and destroy it
>>4374721>Rush and attack the Stand, overpower ‘yourself’ and destroy itI mean, I'm pretty sure Dragon Force isn't as durable as it is strong, we never learned, I think, but now we get a chance to see how much damage a Dragon Force can take! Even if it is just a copy.
>>4374721>>Rush and attack the Stand, overpower ‘yourself’ and destroy it
>>4374721>>Rush and attack the Stand, overpower ‘yourself’ and destroy itthrough power I gain victory.
>>4374740Yeah it's a blessing in disguise. Also i had a thought. Would going to God path unlock the full power of Divine Dragonforce?
>>4374742Strength leads to Victory.Passion leads to Strength.Let's put the horse before the cart on this one and find something we can be passionate about in this encounter.
>>4374721>Red Dawn, destroy this ship and continue destroying the ships before returning to this fight
I think something to note is that our Dragonforce is a stand but his Dragonforce seems to be an actual physical being literally attached to his arm.
Rolled 21, 92, 33, 76, 99 = 321 (5d100)>>4374727>>4374728>>4374740>>4374741>>4374742Rush and attack the Stand, overpower ‘yourself’ and destroy it wins. Roll me a 3d100.First DC: 60Second DC: 75Third DC: ??
Rolled 24, 73, 59 = 156 (3d100)>>4374758Fadar var, so ar I, himmelen.
Rolled 19, 50, 43 = 112 (3d100)>>4374758
Rolled 77, 6, 54 = 137 (3d100)>>4374758
Rolled 78, 69, 4 = 151 (3d100)>>4374758
>>4374765>>4374766>>437476977/100, 73/100, 59/100. Success, narrow failure, and a mystery. Well then, writing.
>>4374721“HAAAAA!” you roar, launching yourself forward. Without hesitation you swing, right fist slamming into the copy’s left forearm. It stops your charge, ground crumpling under it’s feet. It replies in kind, swinging it’s right fist for your head. You raise your left arm, blocking the strike with your forearm and spinning into a turning right elbow. Your hard bone and Dragon Force’s scaly hide slam into the copy’s ribs, it’s armor shattering from the impact as it wheezes. Both arms cross it’s body as it holds itself, the Stand dropping to a knee and leaving itself wide open.“Strike now Karn!” your Stand bellows, you twisting counterclockwise and swinging Stand-first at the copy’s head. It copies your strike, swinging it’s right arm and knockoff Dragon Force back. Your fist slams into the copy’s, but Dragon Force doesn’t match your strategy. Your Stand charges the copy, but dodges and chomps down on the copy dragon.“Wh-What?!” the Grunt shouts in surprise, Dragon Force biting clean through the copy dragon. His Stand howls in agony, clutching at the reptillian stump protruding from it. The decapitated head drops unmoving to the ground, swiftly losing color until it becomes a metallic silver reflecting the room around it.“Hmph. No pale imitation can defeat me.” Divine Dragon Force says smugly, but doesn’t take its eyes off the copy Karn.“Was that it?” you say tauntingly, taking a step closer, then another. As you do the remaining piece of the copy dragon is swiftly pulled back inside the enemy Stand. Distracted by this you almost don’t notice the Guided Eye Beams it fired. With one each headed for your and Dragon Force’s foreheads you leap aside, but aren’t quick enough. One beam cuts through the side of your right temple, thankfully not piercing too deep. But the second one takes Dragon Force through the neck, piercing through your Stand several times as it had returned to being wrapped around your arm, You feel your Stand’s pain as several large, bleeding holes suddenly opening up all down your right arm.“GRRRRROOOOAAAAAR!!” Dragon Force bellows in agony but you don’t stop moving, gritting your teeth over the pain and dashing further aside. Sure enough the beams turn and follow you, leaving you one option to try and survive this.“BARRIER!” you gasp out, the shimmering field flickering a moment before springing fully to life around you. The beams hit your shield head-on, but your Barrier holds the energy at bay near-effortlessly. That was a close one. Looking down at your limp right arm, Dragon Force seems to be in just as rough shape. “You alright?”“I’m fine.” it replies, despite clearly NOT being fine. Motes of crimson energy leak from it’s many wounds, mirroring the blood leaking from your own as your Stand addresses you. “But I learned how you can defeat it.”cont
>>4374832“Really?” you ask your injured Stand, a glimmer of hope in it’s eye. “How?”“You can hurt it.” it says, you glancing to the still-cracked armor and how the copy seems to be favoring that side as it rises to it’s feet. “While it’s copying you, you can damage it, despite not being a Stand yourself. You don’t need my ability to finish it off. But...”“But what?” you reply, dropping your Barrier as it turns again to face you. Glancing to the Grunt, you see him holding his right shoulder, blood seeping out between it’s fingers.“It’s still copying you.” Dragon Force replies, becoming a bit more transparent by the second. “All of it’s attributes have copied yours. And despite my own powers, if it gets a hold of me, game over.”“Understood. Rest well.” you tell it, banishing your Stand to conserve it’s strength. Which leaves you facing down the injured Grunt and his Stand, Double Vision. Once more you take your stance, the copy doing the same. Knowing more of what it can do now, you’re more confident in your victory. But why is the Grunt now smiling?What now?>Rush and attack the user, killing him will end this>Rush and attack the Stand, use everything you’ve got against this copy>Draw both of your weapons, try and out-skill the Stand to destroy it>Try your Multiform technique, see if you can out-maneuver the two of them with two Karns of your own>Final Flash, goad your copy into a power struggle to see which is better>Final Flash, but at the last second Instant Transmission behind the user>Other(write in)
>>4374833>>Final Flash, but at the last second Instant Transmission behind the user
>>4374833>Final Flash, but at the last second Instant Transmission behind the userOoh, IT under strain! Risky as hell
>>4374836>>4374839>>4374841>>4374850Final Flash, but at the last second Instant Transmission behind the user wins it. Go big or go home, roll me a d100.DC: ??
Rolled 94 (1d100)>>4374867
Rolled 21 (1d100)>>4374867
Rolled 7 (1d100)i'm about to ruin this Grunt's whole career.
>>4374877m-maybe i should hold off on rolling
>>4374872>>4374875>>437487794/100. Impressive roll, DC was 80. Writing
>>4374883We all gotta get the shit rolls out before we roll hot 90's. Take it in stride and maybe feed the dice a little.
>>4374910got it, i'll get the goat
>>4374833https://youtube.com/watch?v=5s9xI_D7qhU“You think you’ve won?” you ask, clenching your fists and flaring your aura. Your emerald energy blasts up all around you, the entire vessel trembling as you pull your entire energy to the surface and ready to use. Throwing your arms wide, your aura explodes out, both the Grunt and Stand sent sliding backwards. Gathering your energy into both hands, each one glowing with power. “I’ll use everything I’ve got, and end this right now!”“HAAAAA!!” your copy bellows, mirroring you and charging it’s own Final Flash. The ship around you both begins tearing itself apart under the sheer pressure, you slamming your wrists together. Double Vision does the same, you feeling the two ki you’d smashed together between your hands struggling against combining until they begin merging, multiplying it’s power over on itself several times. Your attack’s ready, but you can’t fire it yet. If you attack now, the copy will simply mirror you, and make you waste your energy for nothing. You have to make this attack count! You focus your mind, zeroing in on the Grunt’s comparably-miniscule powerlevel. Which having no other living beings around helps dramatically, as focusing on another powerlevel through everything would probably be too difficult.“FINAL!!” you roar, fully locked onto the Grunt’s ki. You have only one chance to make this work. Straining your mind, and without raising your right hand’s first two fingers to your forehead, you give everything you’ve got to using your Instant Transmission. After several seconds you do it, one moment you’re standing before the Grunt and his Stand, and the next you’re behind him. “FLAAAAASH!!!”“Wha-?!” is all it can say, not even turning before your golden beam catches him in the back. Your energy obliterates him, then the Stand, then blasts straight through the ship. With a massive hole blown out into the void, the nothingness of space tries to suck you out into the darkness. As it steals your air you sigh out, raise your right hand to your forehead and focus. More than a half-dozen clusters of ki remain, you not feeling any really outstanding powerlevels remaining.“Karn, what the hell?” Freeza tells you telepathically. “You almost hit the Lucrehulk!”“Sorry about that.” you reply to him, using your Instant Transmission to reappear on another Covenant ship. Then with much less effort than your Instant Transmission Final Flash, you unleash another Super Explosive Wave that obliterates this other ship. “Enemy Stand user, somehow his Stand could copy me and my power.”“Wait, WHAT?!”cont
>>4374959“It copied You?” he asks, you sensing his apprehension. “How?”“It could somehow copy whatever was before him.” you tell him, focusing on another ship. But before you can teleport to it, you feel that energy disappear as Mika’s white mecha stabs its large mace-spear right into the bridge. Several exploisons rock the ship, clustered around the bridge as his machine leaps away. You then focus on another, once more destroying a Covenant ship with a Super Explosive Wave. “I managed to kill the user, but had to pull out a new trick to take him down.”“Hrmm, I see.” Freeza replies, you looking around and seeing the last of the Covenant ships being destroyed by both Tekkadan’s forces and Arctus’s droids. “Well, it seems this battle is pretty much over. Come on back inside, I’m sure you’ll have to recover. But when you do, we need to talk.”And with that, he ends the telepathic link. You’re bleeding pretty badly, but Freeza still seems upset. Perhaps you should talk to him first?What do you do?>Instant Transmission to Meloka, and have Dr. White put you in a healing pod>Fly back to the ship, and hop into the first open healing pod>Instant Transmission to Freeza, and see what’s bothering him before going to get yourself healed up>Other(write in)
>>4374963>>Instant Transmission to Freeza, and see what’s bothering him before going to get yourself healed upits just some serious injuries, nothing to get worked up about
>>4374963>Instant Transmission to Freeza, and see what’s bothering him before going to get yourself healed up
Leaving vote open another ten minutes
>>4374963>>Instant Transmission to Freeza, and see what’s bothering him before going to get yourself healed up
>>4374963>Instant Transmission to Freeza, and see what’s bothering him before going to get yourself healed upMuch more of a conventional stand battle this time around.
>>4374963Im gonna say we should heal up. Don't want passing out mid convo plus this is the first time Divine Dragonforce has been hurt right? No idea what might happen if we don't heal up soon.
>>4375001We're not in such a sorry state that we'd pass out from some gashes in our arm.We can spare a few minutes to see what's up with our friend and boss.
>>4374976>>4374978>>4374999>>4375000>>4375001Instant Transmission right to Freeza wins it, writing.
>>4375000i was worried he would pull some trick that would give the damage we dealt back to us
>>4375014Me too, we got lucky he was just able to copy karn, shame it was so 'simple' GD already said stand fights are the best way to learn more of DDF i hoped fighting an karn stand would have helped more
>>4374963Course decided, you gingerly raise your right hand to your forehead, and after a few seconds’ focus once more use your Instant Transmission. One moment you’re floating weightlessly in the void of space, the next you find yourself in the control room with both Freeza and Arctus observing your ship and the surroundings on the holotable.“You wanted to see me, Lord Freeza?” you say, sighing out and reverting back to your much-smaller base form.“Yes I did.” he says, still in his own weakest form as he turns towards you. And the scowl he’s wearing fades as he sees your arm, dripping blood to the floor that quickly begins forming a small puddle. “What happened to your arm?”“The enemy’s Stand copied me.” you say, quickly explaining how the battle progressed and how you combined your Final Flash and Instant Transmission to defeat them. “Yeah, it took a whole lot of concentration to pull that off. It I could’ve sensed the ship too I would have tried moving to a different side of ‘em.”“Bah, you didn’t hit us, and that’s what matters!” Arctus says, taking a celebratory drink before continuing. “Less than three dozen Vulture Droids were destroyed during the battle, and all of Tekkadan’s men and machines are accounted for. I call that a win.”“Be that as it may, what were you doing?” Freeza asks you, his previous irritation surfacing and now also directly slightly at his distant cousin as well as at you. “Your attack was supposed to begin our attack, before they got into firing range of the Lucrehulk. What were you doing?”“Honestly? Trying to see into the future.” you say, neither of them moving. You look between them, before asking. “What?”“Really?” Freeza asks you flatly. “Do you really expect me to believe-?”“So you can do it now too?” Arctus asks, both you and Freeza looking over to him incredulous. He looks back and forth between you two now before drawing the hilt of his energy blade. “What? Did you forget I trained on Raxus Prime for months before you two arrived? I learned to use Foresight, at least a little bit during that time. Let me guess: you were trying to see the outcomes of the battle depending on which ship you attacked first, right?”“How-?” you start, Arctus tapping the side of his head knowingly.“Seeing a second or two is, relatively speaking, easy.” he replies, then turns serious. “But the more variables you introduce when trying to peer through time, especially other living beings, the more complex it gets and the longer it takes to get better, more-complete visions. And if you’re not paying attention, you can lose yourself. I spent a whole week while building this ship to see how a certain modification would affect it, hadn’t even realized the time went by until I checked the date.”cont
>>4375141“A week?!” you ask, astonished. “Lucky for me Freeza interrupted then, huh?”“You two...Can really see the future, can’t you?” Freeza asks, now sounding more awed than confused.“Of course.” Arctus replies, activating his blade. “It’s how the knights of old could fight even a much faster enemy, or dozens of foes with these things. They would constantly peer a second or so into the future, and see what moves their opponents made to be able to perfectly counter them. But peering farther into the future was something only the wisest of masters could do.”“Well, it was a mistake.” you say, turning back to Freeza apologetically. “And it won’t happen again. So what did you want to talk about?”“That was it.” he says with a sigh, glancing again down at the growing puddle of blood before addressing you again. “You really need to get that taken care of. If you pass out from blood loss because you didn’t get that healed up first, I’m leaving you here.”“I’ll be fine.” you reply, raising your bleeding arm to your head once more. With a last bit of effory you teleport again, this time to your own room’s main hall. Teleporting in you see Silver’s assistants all hard at work in the kitchen, the smells of delicious food cooking making your stomach growl loud enough to cause two of the younger ones to jump in surprise. “Save some for me, alright?”After you tell them this you from the main room, right into Dr. White’s office. You find the elderly medic at his desk, both healing pods open.“Hey, mind helping me out?” you ask, pulling your damaged right bracer off. It falls apart in your hand, you quickly stripping down and climbing into the pod. As the fluids rise you close your eyes, sighing into the respirator. Your consciousness fades within seconds, leaving your mind floating in a black void.>Roll me a 1d500000+500000
Rolled 58528 + 500000 (1d500000 + 500000)>>4375142
Rolled 172414 + 500000 (1d500000 + 500000)>>4375142
Rolled 101793 + 500000 (1d500000 + 500000)>>4375142
>>4375145>>4375146>>4375150682414/1000000. Not too shabby, Karn’s base is now 22,560,000. Writing.
>>4375142>Arctus can see the future tooNeat.
>>4375155Tch. We barely hit over a 100000 with rolls these days.
>>4375177let's teach Freeza foresight and make him even more overpowered!
>>4375142After an unknown amount of time, you feel yourself returning to consciousness. Opening your eyes, the first thing you see is Meloka’s face peering at you from outside the healing pod as the fluid drains out. Once it’s empty the door swiftly opens, Meloka backing up and letting you step out. As you do you wrap your clearly-pregnant wife in your arms, holding her close.“Hey hun, miss me?” you ask her casually, Meloka looking up at you with an unreadable expression on her face. “Everything okay?”“Freeza told me you got pretty messed up out there.” she says, holding your damaged bracer in her hand. “Another one of those ‘Stand’ things, right?”“Yeah, that one was tough.” you say, briefly summarizing your battle with the copy for her. “But I figured out a pretty powerful use of Instant Transmission.”“So it seems.” she says, still seeming a little upset. “If you’re fighting so many of these things now, I hope Chaya, Chilli, Cauli and the others don’t run into such monsters.”“If they do, Caulifla her Triumph can handle it.” you reply, confident in your daughter and and her Stand’s tremendous power. “Nothing we’ve run into so far could’ve stopped her."“Yet it did that much damage to you?” she asks, clearly not as certain as you. But your confidence seems to win her over, your wife changing the subject by putting her hands to her protruding belly. “Anyways, I think it’s about time we named this little guy, don’t you think?”Well?>Uzai>Katsu>Jagun>Karn Jr.>Other(write in)
>>4375220>KatsuI would go for Karn Jr. but people would think we're getting lazy about it at that point.
>>4375220>>4375241AH FUCK ITchanging to>Karn Jr.This kid is powerful enough to justify it.
>>4375248I'll vote for this
>>4375240>>4375241>>4375242>>4375248>>4375259Looks like Uzai is the newest addition to the Karn clan, writing!
>>4375265GD, you may need to recount, unless I fucked up the formatting on my vote change or something.
>>4375267I counted and was writing before this post >>4375263 came through, well after the vote window.
>>4375283I see, just checking.
>>4375283But that would be a tie at the very least.And that third vote was a mere one minute after the second Uzai vote, which was also after the cutoff point.
>>4375290>>4375297>>4375267Going back and double-checking, and it does seem to be a tie. So, I’ll run another vote for twenty minutes between the two options. Final count starting now:>Uzai>Karn Jr.
>>4375312>UzaiI kind of want us to be the only Karn.
>>4375324Naming our kid Karn Jr reminds me of this
Rolled 1 (1d2)>>4375314>>4375318>>4375321>>4375323>>4375324>>4375336Looks like we’re somehow STILL tied. So I’ll be splitting it will a roll. Let’s see what wins:>1Karn Jr.>2Uzai
>>4375350And with the tiebreaker, Karn Jr. wins it. Writing.
>>4375350Uzai is so cool though..
>>4375220“Hmm, we’ve talked about a few times now.” you say, thinking it over. “What about...Karn Jr.?”As you say this you feel a kick, your son-to-be reaching out and striking you. You both feel it, looking down at your wife’s belly. You take a knee, laying your head on her and reaching out to him telepathically.“Do you like that name?” you ask, and get another kick. This one strikes your jaw, enough for you to really feel it. Years ago, such a hit would have flattened you. But now it only causes you to chuckle, again reaching out to your unborn son and speaking to him both aloud and telepathically. “Karn Jr, huh? I’ll see you soon, my son.”“Not soon. Few months yet to go.” Dr. White says, voice sounding less rough than usual. “Child strong, like his parents.”“That he certainly is.” Meloka says, smiling happily at you as you rise back up. “Mind getting that written down and ready?”“Of course, no trouble.” he replies, already typing something at his desk. “Go, your dinner waits.”“Thanks doc.” you say, dressing quickly in a fresh training uniform Meloka’d brought beforr waving to him and walking out, arm around your wife. And sure enough, a pair of plates are waiting at the table. You and Meloka sit down, scarfing down the food. Your hunger is much greater than usual, no doubt due to the sudden battle breaking out near the end of today’s training no less. So you devour your meal, sighing contentedly once it’s all finished. After taking a few moments to enjoy the after-meal glow, you rise back up to your feet. And before Meloka can get up, you reach down and sweep her up into your arms.“Ah-Hey!” she protests, trying to sound serious while attempting to stifle her giggle. “What’re you doing?”“C’mon Meloka, it’s time to go to bed.” you say, carrying her upstairs. You and your wife get in bed, stripping down and holding her close as you both drift off to sleep. Your sleep is deep and restful, waking up several hours later and returning to your usual schedule. The next month seems to fly by, you focusing on training your students before the next fight. And sure enough, the day comes your ship has gotten close to the next targets, Freeza calling a meeting of the major figures in this assault. You walk in, seeing all the usual suspects gathered and seated around the holotable. Freeza, Captain Ginyu, King Vegeta, Sorbet, Arctus, and even Tekkadan’s leader Orga are all already seated as you walk in.“Gentlemen.” Freeza begins, the table lighting up. “Let us begin.”cont
>>4375420“We have two different worlds that still need knocked down, before we reach Planet Otraak.” Freeza continues. “First is Ealen IV. The fourth moon of Ealen has a breathable atmosphere, and several military installations along with a defensive fleet in orbiy. It won’t be an easy target. But that’s not to say the other target will be easy. Planet Cyteen is a rocky, desolate world with frequent volcanic activity. Our information indicates it to be more of a mining operation tham strictly a military base, but there is still a massive military presence there. No doubt to protect whatever resource they’re mining out there.”At this point Freeza stops, letting everyone present mutter between themselves a moment or two. Vegeta talks with Nappa, Sorbet with his subordinates Shisami and Tagoma, and while Ginyu isn’t audibly talking you have no doubt that he’s talking telepathically with the rest of his force. After a few moments Freeza raises his hand for quiet, the whispered conversations quickly ending.“All that said, our forces should be able to hit each sight simultaneously.” he continues. “So we’ll try splitting up and striking both targets at once. General Karn, which planet will you and your force take?”Well? Which target will you take down?>Ealen IV, you’ll destroy the heavier military fortifications personally>Planet Cyteen, you’re curious what they’re mining and want to see it firsthand
>>4375424>>Ealen IV, you’ll destroy the heavier military fortifications personallyWe're not exactly the type for recon and information gathering anyways.
>>4375424>Ealen IV, you’ll destroy the heavier military fortifications personally
>>4375424>>Ealen IV, you’ll destroy the heavier military fortifications personally
>>4375424>Ealen IV, you’ll destroy the heavier military fortifications personallyWe can explore Anikins house later.
>>4375428>>4375439>>4375448>>4375453>>4375461Ealen IV wins, writing.
>>4375424“I’ll take on Ealen IV.” you say, nodding to Freeza. “I’ll lead my students to take this one, and I’ll handle the strongest fortifications myself.”“Very well.” Freeza replies, the two teams swiftly organizing. King Vegeta, along with the Saiyan army and Sorbet’s forces will handle the mining operation on Cyteen, while you, your students, and the Ginyu Force will handle the base on Ealen IV. With only a dozen or so hours before the pods are scheduled to depart, the meeting is quickly adjourned so everyone can inform their subordinates and make their preparations.“It’ll be good to fight alongside you again, General Karn.” Captain Ginyu says, the two of you clasping forearms outside the meeting room. “We’ll get to show off what we can do.”“I’ll be looking forward to it.” you reply, the two of you parting ways. You gather your students, addressing them all and quickly telling them about the upcoming battle, and that the rest of today’s training is canceled. You order them to eat and sleep well, so they’ll be able to battle at their best tomorrow. And as you finish your speech, hopping down from atop the gravity chamber, you take off back to your own room. You prepare everything for the battle ahead, setting out your armor and weapons before going to bed with your wife once more. Holding Meloka and Karn Jr. close, your sleep is far less peaceful. Visions of blood and fire, death and suffering plague your mind until you wake up, only for basically all the lights to be out. Looking around, the wall clock gives you New Salda’s time for the city and shows it’s in the early, predawn morning. You don’t have to be up and ready to go for several hours yet, but if you get up you might wake Meloka. Nothing feels necessarily wrong, your instincts quiet, but you still find yourself feeling uneasy.What do you do?>Go back to bed, get as much sleep as you can>Stay in bed, reaching out telepathically to Karn Jr and familiarize him with your mind>Sneak out of bed and to your common hall, see what you can scrounge up to eat>Sneak off to one of the strongest gravity chambers, and grind out a workout before heading off to war>Stay in bed, telepathically check in with Raven and Tatsu, see how things are going back home>Leave your rooms and lock them all up tight with the security card Arctus gave you, camp outside the only door awhile and see if anything interesting happens >Wander around the Lucrehulk, and see if anything around catches your eye>Other(write in)
>>4375508>Leave your rooms and lock them all up tight with the security card Arctus gave you, camp outside the only door awhile and see if anything interesting happens
>>4375508>Stay in bed, telepathically check in with Raven and Tatsu, see how things are going back home
>>4375508>>Stay in bed, reaching out telepathically to Karn Jr and familiarize him with your mind
>>4375523Switching my vote to>>Stay in bed, reaching out telepathically to Karn Jr and familiarize him with your mind
>>4375522>>4375523>>4375525>>4375544Stay in bed, reaching out telepathically to Karn Jr and familiarize him with your mind wins it. I’ll just need you all to roll me a d100 then, and we’ll keep moving.
Rolled 43 (1d100)>>4375555
Rolled 25 (1d100)>>4375555
Rolled 38 (1d100)>>4375555
>>4375558>>4375566>>437557143/100. Hrmmmm, interesting...Writing.
Aw man, our kid's an asshole!
>>4375627We called him Karn Jr. He has the right. He kicked us in the head when we asked him.
>>4375634He takes shit from nobody, Karn included.I can already see him doing great things.
>>4375727I just hope he doesn't turn into our version of Broly because we were stupid with his name. Better reason than canon Broly. But still.
>>4375736Surely he didn't inherit the Berserk mutation.Surely.
>>4375741Nah it's worse. He got that SSJ3 look at all times. Kinda like halfway between a monkey and a man. He also inherits the arrogant dickishness that seems to come bundled with the form. That's like a double-vegeta level of self-assurance. I'm sure he won't have any tendencies to go into a frothing rage the likes of which would put Super Buu's mega autism screeching to shame.
Question for GD about the God route: Is Berserker God just the result of God Ki, a la Super Saiyan God, or is it a fusion of God Ki and the standard Berserker Ki, like a Berserker Super Saiyan Blue? If the former, then fusing the two eventually would be possible, and it may very well be far stronger than Apex I'm thinking. Especially since Royal Blue is a thing, too.
>>4375508With nothing urgent to handle, and Meloka sleeping atop your right arm, you decide to relax back in bed. Reaching over with your left arm, you place it gently on your wife’s protruding belly. A moment later you feel a sudden, sharp hit from your son, Karn Jr. Smiling you reach out telepathically, comforting your son.“Hey kiddo, it’s me, your dad.” you tell him. You lay in bed, telepathically telling your unborn son about his family. Yourself and Meloka, his brothers and sisters who’re all eager to see him, and all your friends and allies who’ll protect him and help him grow. As you telepathically talk with your son, he places either a hand or foot against your own hand, you feeling him pressing against you through your wife. You wonder how the Saiyans ever got by, having so many fighters down for several months at a time before the infant pods. As you sit there, talking directly into your son’s mind the time seems to fly by. Before you know it it’s light, Meloka’s hand caressing the back of yours.“Mornin’ hun.” she whispers softly, you and her sharing a kiss before getting out of bed. You eat, shower and dress, slinging your weapons on your back as your preparations are complete. Next stop, Ealen IV. You and Meloka fly across to the Lucrehulk’s left arm, where the hundreds of Attack Pods are readied for the two attacks. Your students are assembled and ready, everyone seemingly eager to go. As you find your pod and open the door, you give Meloka a final farewell kiss before hopping in thay several of your students whistle and cheer at. Meloka blushes slightly, but doesn’t let you go until she’s damn well ready to. Then within a minute you and your team are being shot through space.“Karn, do you feel that?” Sabi, one of your students asks. Expanding your ki sense, sure enough you feel them. A dozen or so clusters of enemy ki, no doubt enemy ships planning to intercept you all.But how do you handle this?>Instant Transmission from ship to ship, and destroy each with a Super Explosive Wave>Tell Captain Ginyu, have the Ginyu Force handle this problem>Have Sabi and your other Super Saiyans leave their pods and go on the attack>Other(write in)30 minute vote
Also apologies for falling asleep last night before I could post the update
>>4376147>Tell Captain Ginyu, have the Ginyu Force handle this problemLet's let the Ginyu Force handle these chumps and show off a bit.>>4376149Hey, no worries, everyone's gotta sleep eventually
>>4376147>Instant Transmission from ship to ship, and destroy each with a Super Explosive WaveWe can teleport so we're the only one able to wrap this up and join the planet fighting instantly once it's done
>>4376147>>Instant Transmission from ship to ship, and destroy each with a Super Explosive Wave
>>4376157>>4376158>>4376176Handle them yourself with Instant Transmission and Super Explosive Wave wins it. Roll me a 2d100.First DC 35Second DC 50
Rolled 49, 71 = 120 (2d100)>>4376204pop
Rolled 44, 69 = 113 (2d100)>>4376204
Rolled 54, 98 = 152 (2d100)>>4376204
>>4376208>>4376214>>437621554/100, 98/100. Crushing success, writing.
>>4376147“Everyone, halt your Attack Pods!” you order over the scouter while stopping your own. “Enemy fleet is ready to intercept us. Wait for my signal to charge planetside.”“Oi, what’s the signal mate?” Jeice asks, confused.“I’ll tell you when.” you reply, closing comms and focusing on the enemy before you. While none of them are exceptional, there are a lot of them onboard each ship. Which makes it easy to find each and every one of them. Deciding to take a bit of extra training, you leave your hands in the armrests, focusing exclusively with your mind on using Instant Transmission. It takes a noticeable few extra seconds, but sure enough you manage to do it, appearing inside one of the Covenant warships.“Sir, they’ve all stopped their approach just outside our firing ra-“ one Kig-Yar says to the Sangheili in the command chair, but freezes as he sees you. The Sangheili tries to swivel around, to see what his subordinate sees, but is just too slow. You unleash your power and transform, the power of a Saiyan Berserker explodes out from you, knocking everyone nearby over and destroying several monitors. “Oh shit! Maday, maday!”“Too late for that.” you say, clenching your fists. Unleashing your emerald power, your Super Explosive Wave radiates out from you and obliterates the Covenant warship. As your blast fades you see pieces flying out from you, many launched like shrapnel and shredding the nearby ships’ armored hulls. With no time to waste you bring your right hand to your forehead, quickly teleporting from ship to ship and demolishing each one after taking a breath. Within two minutes the entire fleet is destroyed, save for one of the smaller ships that broke formation and began flying down to the planet. But you don’t let it escape, pulling back your right arm and making an Energy Javelin. Focusing on that ship’s strongest being you launch your attack, the explosive javelin piercing it’s shields and lodging into the rear of the craft before exploding. Your blast doesn’t completely destroy that ship, but less than half of it begins igniting as it falls through the atmosphere.“Ginyu, it’s done.” you tell your friend telepathically. “Give the order to attack, would you?”“Of course!” he replies, while through your scouter you hear: “General Karn has cleared the path, all units, charge!”cont
>>4376314The pods all begin rocketing towards the planet below, all except for one. You fly back to your pod, opening it and transforming back down before setting it to resume flight. A few seconds later the atmosphere is pumped back in, you taking a deep breath before sighing out. Using your energy like that to completely destroy the ships takes a bit out of you, you taking a minute to catch your breath. Meanwhile you feel your own pod slam into something, presumably the ground, yet you don’t open it immediately. From the quiet of the pod’s interior you extend your ki sense, trying to get a sense of the battlefield.The first thing you notice is you and your soldiers are ridiculously outnumbered, at least a thousand to one if not more. But many are already in their Oozaru forms, judging from their powerlevels. Yet, many haven’t transformed yet, clustered around the Power Balls and destroying approaching enemies by the hundreds. No doubt by now the Covenant have based their strategies around denying your soldiers the Power Balls, and thus their Oozaru powers. But that’s not all, the Ginyu Force are on the move as well. Captain Ginyu and Recoome are on the attack, pushing deep into enemy lines while Burter and Jeice have almost completely merged their energy by the Power Balls, unleashing a powerful stream of explosive ki blasts. Guldo is all over the place, hopping around impossible distances so fast you simply can’t keep up with him. Seems he’s enhanced his Time Freeze even further.But for all this destruction, you can sense the Covenant have many more forces held back from the initial assault. There are presumably, from what you can sense anyways, six seperate fortresses with tens of millions of soldiers each on this planet. This won’t be an easy battle.But what shall you do?>Fight with your students, Multiform and protect the Power Balls so more can become Oozaru>Use your Instant Transmission to teleport to the furthest base from the battle, and attack it>Focus your ki sense to find the single-strongest Covenant being around, and take it down>Join Captain Ginyu and Recoome, drive your attack deep into the massed enemy before you>Other(write in)30 minute votr
>>4376317>Join Captain Ginyu and Recoome, drive your attack deep into the massed enemy before youBeen a while since we’ve fought directly alongside the Ginyu Force.
>>4376317>Use your Instant Transmission to teleport to the furthest base from the battle, and attack it
Leaving vote open another ten minutes, let’s see if anyone else shows up
>>4376317>>Fight with your students, Multiform and protect the Power Balls so more can become Oozaru
Rolled 2 (1d3)>>4376339>>4376344>>4376361Looks like we have a three-way tie. Alrighty then, I’m rolling for the tiebreaker. Whichever result we get, roll me a 3d100.>1Join Ginyu and Recoome>2Use your Instant Transmission to teleport to the furthest base>3Fight with your students, Multiform and protect the Power Balls
Rolled 74, 94, 38 = 206 (3d100)>>4376369
Rolled 49, 21, 33 = 103 (3d100)>>4376369
Rolled 42, 61, 65 = 168 (3d100)>>4376369
>>4376375>>4376378>>437640074/100, 94/100, 65/100. Use your Instant Transmission to travel to the farthest base wins it. Writing.
>>4376317“Excellent work.” you think to your students who’re protecting the Power Balls. “Keep defending them, and I’ll go on the attack.”“Roger!” Nion, Rugu and Lattu all reply simultaneously while you focus your ki sense. Reaching out, you find the furthest group of Covenant beings from your allies, and bring your right hand to your forehead. Another moment of focus, an effort of will, and you vanish. One moment you’re sitting inside the closed Attack Pod, and the next you find yourself in what appears to be a barracks of some sorts, Sangheili finishing putting their armor on. For a solid second none of them notice your arrival, that is until you transform into your Berserker form once more.“RRRAAAAAAAA!!” you roar, the sudden surge of power knocking most of them off their feet.“Die Saiyan!” one of the ones you hadn’t knocked down shouts from behind you, the sound of an Energy Sword activating drawing your attention. But without looking behind you backflip, seeing the Sangheili’d tried to stab you. So you land a crushing right knee to the back of it’s head, ko-ing the warrior who falls unconscious to the ground before you land, stomping his head to paste under your left boot. There’s a moment of stunned silence, the enemy all hesitating before you simply ask: “Who’s next?”Fifty or so Energy Blades all hiss to life, you smirking and taking your usual fighting stance except your right hand grabs the hilt of your ancient blade. You don’t watch them with your eyes so much as you focus on their ki, sensing for the slightest movevent to attack. The three in front of you lurch forward as if to attack, but stop short as another pair rush you from behind, Recognizing the feint you step forward, only to twist counterclockwise and draw your blade, slashing the two from behind. Your blade severs them both, following up with a clockwise turn and slashing at the three who’d attempted to feint. The first two are bisected across the middle, while the third managed to block your blade with his own. Instead of slicing him into pieces the hit instead launches him backwards, crashing into some of his fellows who all fall in a tangle of limbs. The other Sangheili all pause for a moment, no doubt the sudden deaths of four of their own making them all hesitate.cont
>>4376521“GRRRYAAAAAA!! you roar, clutching the handle with both hands as you focus your ki through the ancient weapon. It glows with a soft blue light, you spinning and sweeping it in a circular arc as you unleash it’s power.https://youtube.com/watch?v=8_8Pk7pwNUIA lone wolf’s howl can be heard as a large slashing blade of azure energy is launched from the ancient weapon. As you spin it slashes through Sangheili, armor, and even their Energy Blades without much difficulty. The entire roomful of splitjaws are cut down in an instant, the blue glow fading as you stand back upright.“Hmph. Easy enough.” you say, resting the sword on your right shoulder. But only for an instant, as a door on the far wall is kicked in by another Sangheili who, upon seeing the carnage, leaps aside and begins shouting orders.“Karn is here! Destroy the Heretic! Fire, fire!” he bellows, you activating your Barrier as dozens of energy projectiles are fired at you. Clutching your sword in your right hand, you can’t help but feel a smirk coming to your face. This is gonna be fun!https://youtube.com/watch?v=5Rg9SkfrveM-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 136 Part II End-
And that’s it for this episode, everyone enjoy the ride? Ready to see what happens next, and how your allies will do? All this and more, next time on Saiyan Conqueror Quest!
>>4376531Thanks for running! About how much longer do we have left on our crusade before we reach our final destination?
>>4376662Glad you’re enjoying! And only one more world after this before you’re halfway there
>>4376669Glad to be here for at least a vote this week. How much news and records of the battles have slipped past us to Sanghelios? I feel like we slay need to stop the IT Explosive Wave in case they prep for it in the next attacks, so just want to know if any relevant info got through our exterminations?
>>4376684That would be spoilers. Knowing how much the enemy knows ruins the fog of war. However, it’s fair to say they’ve probably seen at least some of what’s been happening. And of Double Vision’s failure, of course. Cameras were set up all over the inside of that ship.
Also, this week’s epilogue will be focused on Future Chaya. Who’s ready to see how she’s adapting to her new life, and what new challenges await her?
>>4376904How badly did she fuck up the current standings at the Arena they have in Conton City?Has she also started training with Jiren as well?And how many techniques has Cell been learning since he got there?Are the kids alright as well?
>>4376981You’ll have to wait and see anon, some of those answers could spoil the epilogue. Although, I can say that your Cell is now a mentor.
>>4376989>You’ll have to wait and see anon, some of those answers could spoil the epilogueFair. I expect to hear good things regardless.>Although, I can say that your Cell is now a mentor.Is he the only Cell that's a mentor, or does he have to deal with a bunch of jealous inferior Cells too?
>>4376995It’ll be fun, that’s for sure. It’s not opening up to a slow start.There’s a ‘canon’ Cell, but he’s far weaker. Both in terms of moves and power
>>4375736>I just hope he doesn't turn into our version of BrolyAny attempts by Paragus to properly rise Broly from the movie "Dragon Ball Z: Broly – The Legendary Super Saiyan" were kind of sabotaged by what happened to his son near the start of his life.Shortly after being born Broly was:>Stabbed with lethal intent.>Thrown out into the trash to finish bleeding out and die next to his wounded father.>Forced to instinctually create a barrier to protect himself (and his father) from the destruction of his entire home planet (while still being wounded and bleeding). Sure he probably got huge Zenkai from surviving almost dying, but those early events in his life may have had a very negative effect on his psyche and personality.And to compare what happened to that same Broly in Karn's timeline?He was:>not stabbed to near death.>not thrown away to bleed and forced to struggle against destruction of planet Vegeta.Instead of the above he:>Shortly after being born he met and made his first friend who also liked him (Karn's and Meloka's daughter Chaya)>They still know each other, and you can say they known each other for their entire life. >He still had some problems with being prone to huge explosions of anger mixed with quickly transforming into powerful forms (first Super Saiyan and latter Berserker Super Saiyan) all while being still very young.>If I remember correctly he transformed into Super Saiyan first time because some other Saiyan kid (that kid got killed by Broly) wanted to beat up Chaya.>But this time he had a friend who helped him calm down (Chaya).>Not only that but Karn helped him to learn to control his huge power (that came from being able to enter Berserker state like Karn).>As time went on he became part of Karn's family (Paragus died in the attack of Big Gete Star if I remember right) and made new friends.Look how different it's turning out to be. Now let's look at Karn Jr.>Many things are pointing to very real possibility that he will have huge potential and power right from the beginning of his life.>Karn Jr will also have a family and friends that care for him.I say he has huge chance to grow up alright.>>4376044>Question for GD about the God route: Is Berserker God just the result of God Ki, a la Super Saiyan God, or is it a fusion of God Ki and the standard Berserker Ki, like a Berserker Super Saiyan Blue? If the former, then fusing the two eventually would be possible, and it may very well be far stronger than Apex I'm thinking. Especially since Royal Blue is a thing, too.Interesting idea. Whether it is possible or not it got me inspired.>Normal Super Saiyan God has fiery aura and red hair, and later goes Blue.>Berserker God has light green hair and light teal aura.>Would he latter go into Blue too or would the colors be different?I was not sure what color would it be so I shopped Berserker God into various different versions.>How would we even call it?>Apex God?
>>4375330>Naming our kid Karn Jr reminds me of thisLol, that picture.>>4376149>Also apologies for falling asleep last night before I could post the updateNo problem, it's ok. Sleep is important.>>4376531>everyone enjoy the ride?Yes. I like it.>Ready to see what happens next, and how your allies will do?Of course. I'm curious for Karn, Ginyu Force and the Students. Another thing is on last planet Karn faced a gigantic Lekgolo colony. What challenges await here? >>4376696>However, it’s fair to say they’ve probably seen at least some of what’s been happening. And of Double Vision’s failure, of course. Cameras were set up all over the inside of that ship.Oh no.We just made that really cool move with combining attack with Instant Transmission. But not like usual, instead Karn managed to use Instant Transmission without that revealing move where he puts his fingers to his forehead before vanishing.That was supposed to be our surprise for them, something they would not expect.>Now that they have the footage (or just part of it) I bet all top minds in the Covenant will analyze every frame of it looking for anything that will help defeat Karn.>They now know Karn's new cool move.>It will most probably be shown to Kano too, while he is preparing to battle Karn.>I'm guessing Kano is waiting for Karn on Sanghelios along with other strongest fighters.>>4376904>Also, this week’s epilogue will be focused on Future Chaya. Who’s ready to see how she’s adapting to her new life, and what new challenges await her?Very interesting. I wonder what happens if she will start to get along well with some members of the Time Patrol?>After all they are on the opposite sides of this.>Normally she and Time Patrollers pretty much only meet in battle to fight her.>If Mechikabura will be defeated will Time Patrol again hunt her and Towa along with her family like criminals?>This whole thing is a really great opportunity to meet (and fight) as well as to get to know some interesting people.>I think that Towa is studying how this city is made and all that, learning new things.>She may be only Towa who has this opportunity.
>>4377936I really dig the aquamarine color on Berserker God
>>4377939The Instant Transmission Final Flash is still really strong, even if they can see it coming.You just have pick an unexpected target and blast it instead of the most obvious ones. It should be even harder to predict at the same time because of the Final Flash itself interfering with anybody's ability to sense the Instant Transmission happening.
>>4377936And, you know, the invasive as all hell forced pacificism didn’t help his mental stability.As for the transformations and their possible results, you’d probably have to achieve it first, then speak with a mentor familiar with divine ki to unravel that mystery.>>4377939Who knows? Well I do, but spoiling it isn’t any fun.Instant Transmission Final Flash, by generating so much power before firing, will actually mask your Instant Transmission. Like how Karn could sense Cooler’s ki move before he would teleport, the sheer power output would almost certainly blind anyone’s ki sense. Like an ant under an umbrella.>>4377953It’s a good color>>4378325Even if they know it’s coming, an opponent would have to figure out from where
>>4378351So, on the topic of Instant Transmission, would it be advisable to try and master the telepathic method of transportation after we polish our ability to do it the regular way?I ask because I remember the last time we did it sounded like Karn had a minor brain hemorrhage.
>>4378363Going that route to teleport to those who’s ki you can’t normally sense does cause some psychic damage. You could try to do it, but it may cause more harm than good. Especially on failed rolls
>>4378469So it seems the main thing holding us back in regards to that technique is the ever-present risk of psychic damage.Is there any way to mitigate that risk with more training, or would we just have to train our our psionic abilities (assuming Karn has that kind of potential)
>>4378687>or would we just have to train our overall psionic abilitiesI need a proof reader
>>4376317Fit Guldo is the fucking best.
>>4376904I want to know if our kids are getting along well. I bet Maza hangs out with Trunks and Gotenks
>>4377830Oooh thats gotta sting.
>>4378687Stands are psychic constructs
>>4379097Yup, speaking of that could ubo have an stand? He sure does have the personality and apparently kriptonians have an entire fighting style of psych contruct warriors it is called torquasm-vo
>>4378687It will always pose a significant threat, although through training you could potentially mitigate it.>>4379036Yes.>>4379038They’re okay. But Maza isn’t easily associating with “the enemy”.>>4379040Right in the ego>>4379556Potentially.
>>4379679>Right in the egoHowever will he recover?Also, can two Cells from different timelines do Namekian fusion?
>>4379688It is a potential possibility. However, one Cell would have to WILLINGLY give up their entire physical existence to another.
>>4379697>However, one Cell would have to WILLINGLY give up their entire physical existence to anotherWould he do it if he lost in a game of Rock, Paper, Scissors?
>>4379699No. Either you’d have to find a selfless Cell willing to sacrifice his being for another, or find one who’s too mentally-defeated to want to fight on. Don’t forget, he has the pride of both a Saiyan Prince, and the Emperor of the Universe
>>4379709>Don’t forget, he has the pride of both a Saiyan Prince, and the Emperor of the UniverseNothing an absolute stomp won't fix. Hell, imagine if he got beat by our Cell's offspring. That'd be the most demoralizing shit.
>>4379679Good kid. But I wouldn't blame them for messing around with the yard kids. Show them up a little.
>>4379729Oooohohoohooo. You can't even beat out mini me's? Guess what you take, my nieces and nephews can, and handily. Just give up.
>>4380110That is meant to say tard kids. Fyi.
>>4380111Fuck you auto correct. It's our and fake.
>>4379729You misunderstand. Cell knows that if he lives, any damage he sustains will make him stronger. And losing to a superior version of himself will simply make him want to reach that level, as he clearly can.>>4380110Maza also doesn’t understand why Chaya’s so friendly with Ace. But, again, he’s a kid and doesn’t understand what’s going on there
>>4380348Cell Dorado when?
>When you realize that the Amaya timeline would probably have a Cell with Amaya's DNA included, which has at least 50% of Karn's DNA>Somewhere out there is a Cell with Karn DNA
>>4377953>I really dig the aquamarine color on Berserker God>>4378351>It’s a good colorNice that you like it.>>4378325>The Instant Transmission Final Flash is still really strong, even if they can see it coming.>You just have pick an unexpected target and blast it instead of the most obvious ones. It should be even harder to predict at the same time because of the Final Flash itself interfering with anybody's ability to sense the Instant Transmission happening.>>4378351>Instant Transmission Final Flash, by generating so much power before firing, will actually mask your Instant Transmission. Like how Karn could sense Cooler’s ki move before he would teleport, the sheer power output would almost certainly blind anyone’s ki sense. Like an ant under an umbrella.>>4378351>>>4378325>Even if they know it’s coming, an opponent would have to figure out from whereI agree with what you say about Instant Transmission Final Flash. Even though they know Karn can do it is still very strong anyway.>>4378351>As for the transformations and their possible results, you’d probably have to achieve it first, then speak with a mentor familiar with divine ki to unravel that mystery.Interesting possibility for the future.>>4378692>or would we just have to train our overall psionic abilitiesThis path may have a lot of potential, but Karn would probably have try to start figuring out everything on his own. Is there anybody to ask for advice on the subject?>I think maybe some of the things that we learn while studying the Force with Darth Bane can be useful in the topic of Psionics, but not all.I'm thinking about topics that seem to be shared between the Force and the Psionis.Few examples:>telepathic related skills (communicating with your thoughts with others , mind reading, mind control etc.)>telekinetic related skillsWho could know something about Psionics?>There is this 1 person who for sure has Psionic powers. It's Geryuganshoop. He is working for Boros. It is not clear if he would be willing to give any advice at all unless Boros told hit to.Raven is currently new Guardian of New Salda.>She seems to have varied array of abilities.>Are Psionics among the abilities she possesses?>If the answer is "yes" and she has Psionic powers, then she may by someone we can ask for advice in this matter.>>4379038>I want to know if our kids are getting along well. I bet Maza hangs out with Trunks and GotenksNow that you mentioned it. I'm curious too. Did they learn the fusion from them?>>4380444>Cell Dorado when?>>4380457>Somewhere out there is a Cell with Karn DNADangerous possibility.>That feeling when you are facing Perfect Cell and he starts using the Berserker transformations.>That even more intense feeling when he is stacking Berserker transformations on top of Golden Freeza's transformation.By the way is there somewhere out there a timeline where there is an adult Cell Jr?
>>4380653It is worse than you think, brother.Cell has personality traits taken from the people who are his genetic donors.
>>4380702>Cell, but he actually likes his kidsTerrifying.
>>4380702I don't think it works that far. Cell didn't act like Bardock. I think he only works with the cells he gets from people directly. So if Amaya couldn't go berserker mode Cell wouldn't nab that ability from her dormant genes handed down.I mean otherwise Cell probably could go berserker anyway already. Seeing as there's tons of ancestry contained within any single person that undoubtedly goes back to some wild shit. That would just be unfair. Like "Oh hey Cell also has Olibu DNA because someone he absorbed was descended from the guy.".There is only so far these shenanigans can be allowed.
>>4380444What did I say about “esto es el fin” memes?>>4380457>Somewhere out there is a Cell with Karn DNAWell, yes. But not THAT Cell, he ded.>>4380653ITFF is a powerful technique.And there may indeed be “adult” Cell Jrs out there. And perhaps, off in a far-flung timeline, six Cell Jrs all held hands praying for the power to avenge their father’s death.>>4380715True. And in Amaya’s timeline, Karn never reached that level as he died with Planet Vegeta.
>>4380739>What did I say about “esto es el fin” memes?I beleive you told us to make more and use them more often. Sarcasm
>>4380739>What did I say about “esto es el fin” memes?Y es bueno? Or something. I don't speak burrito.
>>4380457Oh god. GG no re
>>4380739>six Cell Jrs all held hands praying for the power to avenge their father’s deathWow. I kinda wanna fight that fucker now.
Just imagine how powerful Cell’s mitochondria must be
>>4380739Do you remember which episode had the epilogue with Berserker God Karn vs Jiren?
QM UPDATESo, first, there’ll be no SCQ this weekend. After years of fighting cancer and other medical issues my grandmother passed away peacefully in her sleep last night. So as of right now there’ll be no episode this weekend as I’ve got a lot of personal work to get done. After I’ve helped get her affairs in order and help the family, I’ll give an update here in this thread if it’s still up, as well as to twitter when the next episode will be. So in the meantime, I’ll leave you all with one of her last paintings, that she’d made for me.I’ll miss you.
>>4381777That's terrible to hear man, my condolences to you and your family.
>>4381777Sorry for your loss, brother.
>>4381777im sorry for your loss :(
>>4381777Shit man that sucks. Take the time you need
>>4381787>>4381796>>4381813>>4381853Thanks guys. I’ll try and be back to finishing that epilogue soon
QM UPDATEAlright, update time for you all who care about my personal life. My late grandmother’s wake is tomorrow, and the funeral’s on Sunday. So a bunch of family has already come in, and my little brother’s CO somehow got him leave to come across the country for this. So after everything settles down around here(hopefully in a few more days at most), I’ll be able to finish up the epilogue, post it, and get my life more back to normal so I can run NEXT weekend.
>>4383123Do what you gotta do, bruh.
>>4383123you have my thoughts and prayers if that means anything to you. If you have a throwaway mailing address Ill send a card as well :(
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pKd5kb9GIu4Okay so apparently it is called ‘Full-Power Super Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker’? I don’t speak Moon but I do know that ‘Genkai Toppa’ means ‘Limit Breaking’ and I think they use it several times in the video referring to the form.It looks like Xeno Goku and Vegeta were able to achieve it by receiving ki from regular Goku Blue, Vegeta Blue, God Trunks and Xeno Pan. So it’s similar to how Full-Power Super Saiyan 4 happened in GT.>our alternate timelines daughter achieved a form on her own that canon characters have to ask for help to obtainFuture Chaya is Best Daughteru. I know you aren’t supposed to play favorites with kids but DAYUM she’s amazing.
>>4383557So, basically chaya gained the form the same way vegeta gained blue, by training
>>4383180>>4383258Appreciate the thoughts prayers and well-wishes.>>4383557I have enjoyed being right about this. Been a bright spot
Who’s ready for one of Future Chaya’s strongest opponents yet? Spoiler alert: It’s NOT Ginyu
>>4384543I've never heard of the character named NOT Ginyu. I wonder how strong he is.
>>4384543Not even the most insufferable bird on that show desu.
When the quest resumes next weekend. I suggest we immediately talk to Bardock and Meloka to try and figure out how to get Legendary 3 and Berserker 3. Even if we likely decide to pursue Primal later, I think attaining those forms would be more useful in the short term and less risky. For Primal we would need someone capable of reliably restraining us as an Emerald Oozaru if we go out of control, which only Future Chaya would be able to do, and we can't train with her regularly. Berserker 3 and Legendary 3 by extension would be easier to control by comparison and make us less likely to accidentally kill blow up our own planet. GD said last thread that we can still learn it if we choose Primal, we just won't be able to evolve it into Berserker God.
>>4362514>Karn’s power is now at 24,136,500>>4375155>Karn’s base is now 22,560,000you forgot our earlier zenkai GD
>>4380739>What did I say about “esto es el fin” memes?From what I understood. GD said that we will never ever see in this quest characters such as:>El Hermano >Shaggy Ultra Instinct>Shaggy Blanco>and others Some of the art made for those memes has surprisingly high quality.>And there may indeed be “adult” Cell Jrs out there.Nice.> And perhaps, off in a far-flung timeline, six Cell Jrs all held hands praying for the power to avenge their father’s death.Wow a Cell that has awoken the power of the Super Saiyan God.
>>4381777That is very sad to hear. I hope she is in Heaven now, where she can enjoy eternal happiness. She made a very pretty painting. I like it.
>>4380702>It is worse than you think, brother.>Cell has personality traits taken from the people who are his genetic donors.You are right. I haven't thought of it that way. It suddenly makes the threat even bigger...>>4380715>I don't think it works that far. Cell didn't act like Bardock. I think he only works with the cells he gets from people directly. So if Amaya couldn't go berserker mode Cell wouldn't nab that ability from her dormant genes handed down.>I mean otherwise Cell probably could go berserker anyway already. Seeing as there's tons of ancestry contained within any single person that undoubtedly goes back to some wild shit. That would just be unfair. Like "Oh hey Cell also has Olibu DNA because someone he absorbed was descended from the guy.".>There is only so far these shenanigans can be allowed.>>4380739>True. And in Amaya’s timeline, Karn never reached that level as he died with Planet Vegeta.However GD and Anon explained that it is not so simple for it to happen. For a Cell like that to exist he would have to have a sample of a genetic material directly from:> Karn that has already unlocked Berserker transformations> Freeza who has Golden Freeza already unlocked as well. > Technically Freeza had always potential to go Golden, and Cell had his genes, yet Cell never unlocked that Golden transformation.>Perhaps if he really worked hard he could unlock the potential hidden within Freeza's Cells. It's possible for Cell to have it all available right from the start without any effort. But he would need to:> receive genes from Freeza that already has unlocked his Golden form.>Same for Karn but with Berserker.Honestly it looks like something that has very little possibility to happen. There is a limited time frame in history when Gero is working and collecting the genetic samples for Cell.>Even with all the different possible timelines happening out there this one still has little chance to become true.There is different and higher possibility for this to happen. It could be that 1 of the Towas has saved Dr Gero right before death.>Then she made him work for her.>He is now making new even better Cell.>However she is providing him with genetic samples from various strong fighters from different timelines.>That is how there could exist a Perfect Cell that has both genes of Karn (with Berserker transformations) and Freeza (with Golden form unlocked).>She might even add some improvements to that Perfect Cell of her own ideas.>The result of such collaboration would create a Cell of power unseen before, more dangerous than any other.Perhaps such Towa really exist, we just don't know her yet. Maybe she has some reason to dislike or grudge against our Towa. Possibly this new monstrous Perfect Call will one day be unleashed upon Karn and his family and friends with objective "Kill them all".
And all of the above leads me back to your post again.>>4380702>It is worse than you think, brother.>Cell has personality traits taken from the people who are his genetic donors.You are right. I haven't thought of it that way. It suddenly makes the threat even bigger...We already know Perfect Cell had Goku's and Vegeta's genes.>but some of the really notable traits from those two Saiyan warriors seemed to be overshadowed by certain traits from other people.>Because of that Cell was not as "perfect" as he had potential to be. By this I mean:>Do you remember intensity of Vegeta's trainings? Prince has been shown to train really hard.>Goku's massive passion for training. He is also another example of individual who really likes to push himself further, above his limit to get stronger.But those personality aspects were not dominant in Perfect Cell as he appeared to be complacent, and overconfident, way to certain that nobody will ever defeat him. >Even after receiving a beating and having to regenerate from a single cell (after he blow himself up, because he was losing) his attitude was similar.>When he returned he was still sure that thanks to his Zenkai bonus there is no way he is going to lose this time.>He got himself entirely incinerated by Gohan's Kamehameha. >He made himself a really good example of saying "Pride goes before a fall".Now imagine a Perfect Cell that also has taken a lot from Karn's personality.>Karn's never give up mentality.>On top of the habit to at certain times to give even more than his 100%.>Berserker Saiyan fighting spirit.Those Karn's personality traits added would also cause those traits from other Saiyans to become dominant as well. The traits somewhat mentioned before:>Tendency of Vegeta to do very intense trainings and to fight with such intensity as well.>Vegeta's drive to be number 1.>Goku's massive passion for training and fighting. >The desire to constantly get stronger.All those personality traits from those three Saiyans mixed together would cause those aspects of character to reach the surface and become dominant. And even more than this they could very well become even more intensified due to being combined together in 1 person.Imagine a Cell that is like this, and him fight someone.>He would go and unleash a very strong barrage of attacks, quite possibly finishing that with some devastating finishing move that uses a lot of energy and deals tons of damage. >But he would be so heavily exhausted after this, might even pass out from the strain.Remaining opponents would thought:>"He attacked recklessly, killed most of us, but he used all his strength and now he lays there unconscious.">"We can finish him now">"Let's gather all our remaining power for a powerful energy attack.">"We will hit him and kill him for good while he still sleeps.>"Yeah let's hurry before he wakes up.">"So looks like are going to make it."
>>4385422NOPE>Not only he is ultra hard to kill because of his Freeza genes (Frost Demons), but also...>30 seconds later is up again.>Flawlessly regenerated with Namekian Regeneration>And massively empowered by Zenkai bonus.>Bonus that is permanent and does not disappears.Seriously he would literally get stronger the longer he would be fighting (or training).Every time he went too hard and above his limit his Zenkai + Namekian Regeneration combo would make him much, much stronger. >This parried with the mentality he received from 3 Saiyans (notably including Karn) would ensure it would happen a lot.>He would also quickly learn a lot from fighting, so he would quickly advance in becoming more and more skilled fighter. >He might even abuse the Multiform + Zenkai + Namekain Regenration for some absurd Zenkai bonuses in training when he can't find a sparring partner.There is even more to this.He could have potential to be much stronger than Kid Buu in my opinion. Yes, really. (While not that strong right from the start, this Perfect Cell could very quickly arise in power)>We remember how crazy regeneration Buu had.>You used all power to nearly kill Buu, but you missed a little bit, and he quickly regenerated.>But Buu did not get a Zenkai bonus every time it happened.Now this is where this Cell would have the upper hand.>Not only he would become stronger thanks to Zenkai after he got hit hard>But also he would be learning a lot because he had genes of three talented Saiyan fighters in him.The longer he would go on, the more powerful he would become.Maybe we could call him Apex Cell because he would be so much better than other Perfect Cells.
>>4383557>>our alternate timelines daughter achieved a form on her own that canon characters have to ask for help to obtain>Future Chaya is Best Daughteru. I know you aren’t supposed to play favorites with kids but DAYUM she’s amazing.>>4383745>So, basically chaya gained the form the same way vegeta gained blue, by trainingVery nice.>>4384451>I have enjoyed being right about this. Been a bright spotI'm happy it's canon too. As it was theorized before maybe they got this idea from you. They will just never admit it, that they lurk in here. >>4384543>Who’s ready for one of Future Chaya’s strongest opponents yet? Spoiler alert: It’s NOT GinyuIf that picture is supposed to be a hint about the fighters identity, then I have no clue who will it be.>>4385199>you forgot our earlier zenkai GDGood thing that you noticed it. >>4385041>When the quest resumes next weekend. I suggest we immediately talk to Bardock and Meloka to try and figure out how to get Legendary 3 and Berserker 3. Even if we likely decide to pursue Primal later, I think attaining those forms would be more useful in the short term and less risky.> For Primal we would need someone capable of reliably restraining us as an Emerald Oozaru if we go out of control, which only Future Chaya would be able to do, and we can't train with her regularly.> Berserker 3 and Legendary 3 by extension would be easier to control by comparison and make us less likely to accidentally kill blow up our own planet. GD said last thread that we can still learn it if we choose Primal, we just won't be able to evolve it into Berserker God.>I suggest we immediately talk to Bardock and Meloka to try and figure out how to get Legendary 3 and Berserker 3.I think this is a good idea.
Personally speaking, fuck Legendary 3 with a rusty spork, its not worth the time and effort to master, when Beserker 3 or grinding our PL/other skills for Emerald Oozaru for when our allies are capable of containing is.Personally, I'd rather avoid dealing with any 3 forms at all for the foreseeable future, Master what we already got, and focus on Ki Control/Force/New Energy Attacks.That way we have the PL to actually HOLD Berserker 3/Emerald Oozaru when we get it, not to mention how fucking difficult it is get Berserker 3, with the easiest version being going through the Sayian God Ritual. Otherwise I think we gotta talk to that asshole who knows everything in Universe 7 Ever to find out how dead Berserkers have done it, plus Broly has to help somehow I think? Its complicated.
>>4385041I’m down for this idea.
>>4385808Well, maybe not immediately going for it, but I do think it's something we should look into soon even if we won't actually be trying IC for a while.Focusing on raising our base power level and honing other skills is a good idea, but I feel like we're starting to lag now that Vegeta and Bardock have both achieved Primal. Neither of them are anywhere near close to mastering it, but it's something to watch out for.
>>4385888*Shrug* thats happened in other timelines. GD showed a timeline where Karn didn't reach either Berserker 3 or Emerald Oozaru, and had fallen behind PL wise from his friends, which is one of many reasons he went for the Saiyan God Ritual in that timeline.But frankly Vegeta, Bardock, and Freeza getting so swole is a good thing. The stronger they are compared to us, the easier they can contain us when we flip our shit in Berserker 3/Emerald Oozaru.
>>4385901True, true. I just think whether we go for Primal or not, learning Legendary 3 and Berserker 3 would be useful. It doesn't have to be ASAP.
>>4385422I was mostly referencing Karn's habit of not fucking around with his enemies and going as lethal as possible against them, in regards to personality.Also the extreme murderous instinct if anyone fucks around with his spawn.
>>4384554Ha>>4384556What show?>>4385041It’s something you could do.>>4385199Good catch. Karn’s real base is 24,819,000.>>4385400People who made them had art talent and a lot of free timeAnd yes, those Cell Jr found amazing power.>>4385406Thank you anon. She’s been lain to rest, and doesn’t have to fight anymore. I just hope to one day be as strong as she was.>>4385410>>4385422>>4385425There may be a Cell or three out there who’ve achieved powers even they don’t fully understand. >>4385428Chaya’s certainly put work in. Something her opponent will quickly realize in this epilogueAs for Apex, she’s lucky to have had Towa’s help. Plus the insights she gained into Saiyan power by raising Future Chaya, they’re a dangerous team.>>4385808Having the power to hold onto transformations is important.>>4385888>but I feel like we're starting to lag nowGolden Freeza frowns at you ignoring is gold-plated power>>4385901Would be helpful.
>>4385985>What show?Regular Show, stars an anthropomorphic bird who's also a complete cuck.
>>4385991Fucking Mordesimp. He deserved to end up alone.
>>4385808>>4385888>>4385901>>4385926Wise words.>>4385948>I was mostly referencing Karn's habit of not fucking around with his enemies and going as lethal as possible against them, in regards to personality.>Also the extreme murderous instinct if anyone fucks around with his spawn.Yes, that aspect is important too. A Cell that is not showing off, but instead just activates the Energy Blade and goes to quickly mow down everyone, using the Energy Sword with the deadliest possible fighting style he knows. >>4385985>And yes, those Cell Jr found amazing power.>There may be a Cell or three out there who’ve achieved powers even they don’t fully understand.This makes me very intrigued. I wonder what's their story and what they are doing right now. Maybe there is a chance that someday we will find out.> Having the power to hold onto transformations is important.True. >Chaya’s certainly put work in. Something her opponent will quickly realize in this epilogue>As for Apex, she’s lucky to have had Towa’s help. Plus the insights she gained into Saiyan power by raising Future Chaya, they’re a dangerous team.That is very good to hear.
>>4385991>>4386387Neat. I’d just image searched anime goose and it was one of the first good images.>>4387091A no mercy/no boasting enemy is always terrifying.There’s always a chance we’ll see them. But the better question is: what happened that made them resort to it?Towa’s intellect behind a Saiyan’s muscle is a tall order for anyone to beat, especially Time Patrollers with little-to-no guidance or mentorship.
-Saiyan Conqueror Quest 136 Epilogue-AGE 856, CONTON CITY OUTSKIRTS“HAAAAA!” you roar, right fist slamming into the Time Patroller’s and kicking up a shockwave that blasts the spectators back. Well, all but one, the blue-skinned alien who’s energy you can’t sense simply watches as you and Ace trade blows. Your name is Chaya, Apex Saiyan and now a Time Patroller of all things. Growing up angry at and afraid of the Supreme Kai of Time for her role in killing your mother, you’d never have expected this unexpected alliance. But with that powerful demon Mechikabura on the loose, and his servants destroying your and Auntie Towa’s home, you all had nowhere else to go. Several months have passed since that battle, you spending a lot of your time with the godly Saiyan Time Patroller, Ace.“RAAAA!!” he counters, you both clashing left kicks, then left fists. You lock hands, and before he can pull back you swing with your right as well. Both your fists tied up, you try slamming your forehead into his. But it seems he had the same idea, your noses almost touching. Despite trying to overpower him, the sudden closeness of your face to his makes your face begin feeling hot. His blue eyes stare deep into your own, you forgetting what you’re doing for a moment.“Keep up the effort, you two!” the blue, oddly-dressed man with the tall white hair calls playfully. As he does you suddenly remember what you’re doing, both you and Ace leaping back before charging each other yet again. As you trade blows with the Time Patroller, you can’t help but wonder: just who is this ‘Whis’ fellow, anyways?It all started earlier today, after fighting a powerful Golden Oozaru in one of those ‘PQ’ things, you’d seen Ace walking with the man. Curious, you’d suppressed your power and followed them to the outskirts of the city, only for the blue man to address you directly without turning around. Seems you still need to work on that one. But he’d been more than eager to see you battle against Ace, and use your “different” as he called it Saiyan power. So now here you are, your Primal form trading blows with Ace’s Super Saiyan Blue.“Hey, Ace.” you say, leaping back away from him and floating in the air above the small hut. “Wanna give this guy a show, and really go all-out?”Wordlessly Ace nods, clenching his fists. You watch as his blue aura changes, becoming deeper and more wild as his body changes as well. His muscles expand a bit, hair turning darker as he roars, unleashing his full power. The pressure from his aura increases noticeably, you smiling eagerly. Now THIS is more like it!
>>4387519“Alright, my turn!” you shout, crossing your arms before you as you gather your own power. Digging deep, pulling out all the stops and gathering every drop of power from your head to your tail, you slam everything you’ve got into that final barrier. It crumbles before your might, having knocked it down so many times before you easily charge through. “HRRRYYAAAAAAAA!!!”Your power surges, multiplying over and over as you take on your final form. Your energy quickly settles down, the blinding light fading to reveal the Apex of a Saiyan’s power. Crimson fur matching your hair, golden motes sparkle in your golden aura as you clench and unclench your fist a few times. Satisfied you look over to Ace, who’s looking at you with an intense look in his eye. That look is getting you really fired up!“HYYAAAAA!!” you shout, dashing forward.“HAAAAAAAA!!” he roars, doing the same. You both slam into each other shoulder-first at full speed, the impact sending out a powerful shockwave that blows the clouds away, the small house below you down, and even uproots large trees from the forest and sends them flying towards the nearby city. But all that doesn’t matter to you, as Ace is right in front of you. You twist into a spinning left back kick, Ace crossing his arms and blocking the hit. Your strike still knocks him back, finishing the spin into a lunging hard right overhand. But he sees it coming, knocking your strike away with his left forearm and slamming his right fist squarely into your gut. Before you can even wheeze out his left follows, cracking you on the right side of your jaw and sending you spinning.“That’s how we’re gonna play, huh?” you mutter to yourself, reorienting yourself to land feet-first against the mountain. Blasting off it you close the distance again, trading blows with him as fast as you can. And despite how hard you’re hitting each other, as your right and his left fist miss and slam into each other’s jaw, you can’t help but smile at how much fun you’re having. Before when you’d fight Ace, there was always the risk of getting captured or worse by the Time Kai if you lost. But now, ever since you started living here, you’re able to relax and really enjoy all the time you spend fighting with him like never before. That is, until she shows up.“Ace, Chaya, how many times do I have to tell you two!?” the Supreme Kai of Time shouts angrily. Both you and Ace stop swinging, turning to his boss as she starts sounding angrier and angrier. “No fighting near the city! You’ve nearly destroyed it three times this week already! If you want to battle, there’s plenty of PQ Time Machines to take you to abandoned worlds to battle it out!”
>>4387521“Please forgive them, Supreme Kai of Time.” Whis says, the blue man flying up to you three. “I was the one who had instructed them to show me what they could do.”“Whis?” she asks, sounding even more exasperated. “Really? An angel like you should really know better.”“Ohohoho, I know dearie.” he replies, almost condescendingly. “I hadn’t excepted them both to display such power! And I couldn’t wait, I just had to see this “Apex Saiyan’s” power for myself firsthand.”“If you wanted to see her power, why not take her to that training dimension you send Goku, Ace, and Vegeta to?” she asks, piquing your interest. A training dimension? Why hadn’t Auntie Towa ever told you about such a place? Does she not know it exists, or perhaps she simply couldn’t reach it?“Now now, you know that wouldn’t work.” Whis replies, his next sentence getting your full attention. “Besides, this power of hers isn’t fully under control yet. She wouldn’t be able to move in there, much less fight.”“What do you mean, not under control?” you ask, curious and a little heated. “And what’s this training dimension?”“I’ll leave you to that.” the Supreme Kai of Time says, quickly vanishing as Whis turns fully back to you.“It’s a dimension almost-specifically designed to aid young Saiyan Gods in reaching the next step in their evolution.” he says. “The atmosphere of that place reacts to your body’s energy, any that is radiating out will lock you completely in place. Only by mastering your own energy, and retaining every ounce of power can you so much as move in that dimension.”“Really?” you ask, turning to Ace. “And you went through that?”“Not only went through, but excelled.” Whis says in his playfully-teasing way as Ace nods to you. “And while you’re certainly powerful, you’re simply not ready for such a challenge. At least, not yet.”“I’m gonna conquer this training dimension of yours, an’ I’mma do it even faster than Ace here!” you say, floating forward. “C’mon, let’s do this!”“If you’re certain of this, I won’t stop you.” Whis says, a staff appearing in his hand. But if it’s too much, don’t say I didn’t warn-““Ace, Chaya, we’ve got a problem.” Trunks’ voice suddenly calls over your scouter. “Report to the Time Nest, immediately! This is an emergency!”“Looks like your record’s safe for a little longer.” you say to Ace, then turning back to the blue man. “Sorry, but we gotta run.”“Oh no, it’s fine.” Whis says, staff vanishing as he chuckles. “You’re welcome to stop by anytime.”“How ‘bout a race?” you ask, the blue-haired Saiyan nodding. You both float down to the ground, landing side-by-side. “Ready...Set...GO!!”
>>4387523At your signal both you and Ace take off, not flying to the Time Nest, but sprinting. You run with everything you’ve got, passing from the clearing into the forest, then through the city, into the main plaza and up the long winding staircase to the portal entrance to the Time Nest. Less than twenty seconds passed from the race’s start to finish, and sure enough both you and Ace slap a hand to the portal simultaneously. It pulls you through, the uncomfortable sensation of being twisted and turned around before standing inside the Time Nest is still disorienting, despite doing it dozens of times now.“KIIIIIIIIIII!!” Tokitoki caws, the ancient bird alerting those inside the nest proper to your arrival.“A tie again?” you ask as you and Ace both power back down. He simply smiles and shrugs, you crossing your arms and pouting a bit. You were sure this time you’d win, looks like you’ll have to train even harder to surpass him now! “I’ll beat you next time.”He clenches his fists and nods, a gesture you know to mean “We’ll see about that, I’m not gonna just let you win.” Ace rarely speaks more than a word or two, preferring to communicate through gestures. If he hadn’t been shouting the names of different attacks he’d learned, you would have assumed he was mute. But for some reason you like that about him, he doesn’t complain all the time like that whiner Trunks.“There you two are.” he calls, waving at you from atop the Time Nest proper’s staircase. “Come on, no time to waste.”“You think he gets how dumb that sentence is?” you mutter to Ace, leaning over to him conspiratorially. He simply shrugs, but the smile he’s trying to hide tells you all you need to know. Stifling your chuckle you both walk in side-by-side, seeing a scroll rolled out on the table. This one radiates dark energy, giving you a feeling of unease even from this far away. The hairs on the back of your neck stand up, something’s wrong with that scroll.“You two can feel it too, can’t you?” he asks, you both hesitating and glancing to each other before walking down the stairs to the table. “Take a look at this.”And so you do, each of you holding a side of the scroll and witness the change someone’s attempting to make to history.“First one to kill him wins: it’s sudden death.” a blonde woman who’s ki you can’t sense says, talking to a scarred, one-armed Super Saiyan in an orange gi. You’ve seen several variations of that uniform around town, apparently it’s the uniform of a popular school of martial arts from a planet called Earth. Where a surprisingly large amount of events take place across the different timelines. “No ties. Go.”
>>4387528“You know you can’t win. You can’t destroy what I really am.”the Saiyan replies, glancing between her and another man, this one who’s hair is black as they both walk towards him. “Even if you manage to kill this body, someone even stronger would surface and take my place. Not one death will go unaccounted for! Not one! HRRRAAAAA!!”As he roars his power rises, but the two who’s ki you can’t sense seem completely unafraid. And as the battle progresses you see why: despite the Saiyan being stronger than either of them, or in fact both of them in a brief beam struggle, their teamwork quickly wears down the warrior before another fighter enters the battle.“I must destroy the son of Goku.” a hulking, red-mohawked man says as he drops from the air beside the two smaller fighters. He lands with an impact you wouldn’t have expected of someone even his size, the road shattering beneath his feet.“Who-What are you?” the Saiyan asks, taking a small half-step back nervously. “Another android?”“Correct.” the ‘man’ says, voice sounding quite robotic. “I am designated as Android 16.”“16?” the black-haired man asks, confused. “I thought Dr. Gero never finished you?”“Correct.” this ‘16’ replies, face not showing any emotion as he talks. “I was finished by another.”“Another?” the blonde woman asks. “Who-?”“That would be me.” yet another new fighter says and drops down, this one a woman in a lab coat with a red and blue checkered dress on beneath it. “I am Android 21.”“Another one?” the Super Saiyan asks, you watching the despair you’d felt almost daily in your early years creeping into his expression. In a two on one he seemed, if not confident then at least determined to win. But the odds of four on one seem to simply crush his spirits. You watch as the fight simply drains out of him, the determined warrior turning into just a tired, broken old man. And he reminds you so heavily of your own dad that your heart actually aches for this Saiyan warrior you don’t even know. “Androids 16 and 21 don’t belong in that era.” Trunks says as you turn to look away, unable to bear it any longer. “You two have to go stop them, and save Gohan. Please.”Ace quickly rolls up the scroll, nodding to Trunks and holding it out to you. You grab on to it, feeling the scroll’s magic trying to pull you into that alternate timeline.“We won’t lose to a coupl’a robots.” you say as Ace activates the scroll. You and Ace are pulled into an in-between space, a place where for a few seconds you exist outside even time itself. You look to Ace, your fellow Saiyan nodding to you almost sympathetically. But that’s all you have time for, as you both are now headed into battle.
>>4387529“Another one?” you hear the Super Saiyan ask as you and Ace appear in a flash of light. Before it fades he takes the scroll, storing it inside a tiny capsule before anyone can see it. “Now what?”“Hey, you! 21, or whatever your name is!” you shout, pointing to and calling out the woman. “You don’t belong here!”“Oh my, now who are you?” she asks, resting her chin on her right hand as she studies you. “My my, aren’t you a delectable morsel? Forget Gohan, I’m gonna eat you first!”“Bring it on!!” you shout, transforming into your Primal Saiyan form and taking your stance. “Ace, you take the big green one. She’s mine.”“HAAAAA!!” Ace roars, ki vanishing as his aura shifts to the divine hues of Super Saiyan Blue. And before you can say anything else he charges, slamming his shoulder into the green giant and launching him away. But you can’t focus on his fight, as your opponent’s already on the move.“I’ll eat you up!!” she shouts, pointing a finger and firing a pink beam of energy at you. However it’s not a usual beam, as it seems much more jagged and erratic than those you’re used to. But it’s just as easy to dodge, leaping aside to your left then launching yoursef at her with your left foot. You close the distance before she’s able to end her attack, slamming a fist into her jaw. The impact rocks her, launching the android right into and through a nearby building. Then another, and another and another. She crashes through about five or six before finally stopping herself, you leaping straight up into the air. Unable to sense her energy, your best bet is to have the clearest line-of-sight possible. The moments pass agonizingly slowly, you hearing both Ace’s and Gohan’s battles as you scan for your opponent. But after almost ten seconds without her appearing, you’ve had enough.“Hey, what’re you waiting for?!” you shout down angrily. “Are you dead already? I was expecting a fight!”“SHHHGRRYAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!” you hear her roar, a building completely consumed and destroyed by a sudden surge of a menacing pink aura. You suddenly feel her powerlevel, and are quite shocked by how close to your own strength she now is. You watch as a different being entirely rises out of the settling dust, aura flaring menacingly around her as her tail flicks back and forth eagerly. “Now then, time for another delightful hunt!”
>>4387531https://youtube.com/watch?v=7RNJB7Uzcak“HAAAAAA!!” you roar, blitzing the android. But she’s ready for a direct approach, flipping backwards and aiming a kick for your jaw. Leaning back you manage to narrowly avoid it, but unfortunately don’t see her tail. It strikes you actoss the head and chest, launching you skyward. Before you can recover she’s already closed the distance, slamming her elbow into your jaw then quickly following it up with a half-dozen strikes that ends with a tail swat sending you down. You crash through two or three buildings before hitting the ground and sliding to a stop. “Tch! Lucky hit!”Flipping back to your feet you don’t hesitate, throwing your arms wide before slamming your palms together and unleashing your energy with a roar.“FINAL FLASH!!!”You unleash a torrential beam of golden energy skyward, certain the quick attack won’t find it’s target. But that’s not the play. You want her to THINK you don’t want her getting close, so she’ll just charge right back in. And when she does-*WHAM*“Gyah?!” you cry out, knocked sideways by a powerful blow to the side of your head that leaves your vision swimming. Somehow she got behind you immediately, and probably attacked you with her tail again. It takes you a second or two to figure out what’s going on, the android walking slowly, confidently towards you.“Is this all?” she asks, smiling wickedly. “I’ve heard oh so much about you, I was expecting this to be more fun. But it seems that like the other Time Patrollers, you’re just a disappointment.”“Well, that’s where you’re wrong. I’m not a Time Patroller.” you say, standing back up as casually as you can then popping your neck. “You interrupted our fight, so the sooner I stomp you, the sooner me an’ Ace can get back to more important matters.”“What you and your boyfriend do is of no concern to me.” she says, your face flushing with embarassment. “I-““He’s not my boyfriend!” you blurt out, flustered. He’s not your boyfriend, why would she even say that? It’s not like you’ve thought about him or anything, about how strong he is and-Snap out of it Chaya! Win the battle first, and deal with your emotions later!“You sure seem close with that boy.” she says, finger to her chin in mock thought. “But if he’s not taken, then perhaps I’ll gobble him u-?”“HRRRRYAAAAAAAAAA!!” you roar, exploding off the ground and slamming your right fist into her chin before she can react. Your punch sends the android flying, smashing through the building and back outside. But you won’t let her off that easily!
>>4387531“SHHRRYAAAAA!!” you bellow, charging in pursuit. Before the android can recover you’ve closed the distance, swinging a turning left kick into the side of her head and continuing the spin into a crushing elbow to the gut. The impact stuns the android, allowing you to rain a dozen heavy blows in quick succession before spinning into a powerful left roundhouse. The heavy kick sends 21 spinning. Seeing your opening you pull back your right fist, bringing everything you have to bear. This is it, you can end this now! As the android spins away from you you charge, unleashing your ultimate attack with a roar. “DRAGON FIST!!”“GWROOOOAAAAAAAR!!” the golden ki dragon bellows as it materializes around you. It’s power amplifies your charge, the android righting herself just as you’ve closed the distance. You’re close enough yo watch her eyes widening in surprise, trying to say something before your attack hits. But it’s too late for her, your fist and the golden dragon around you slam into the android’s middle. Like a lance through unarmored flesh your attack pierces straight through the pink android, nearly tearing her in two as you surge through her. Passing through you end the attack after several seconds, turning to inspect your handiwork.“You-! How-?” she asks, clutching at her missing stomach as her powerlevel sharply drops. You’ve killed her, she only has a few seconds left to live. Which she realizes, and begins chuckling then coughing up blood.“Hey, what’s so funny?” you ask, the menace in her being suddenly worrying you. Something’s wrong here.“Fortunately for me, I learned everyone’s skills.” she says, coughing up blood and grinning at you wickedly. “But I never thought I’d use this one. CHANGE NOW!!”“Wha-?” you shout, caught by surprise as this android seemingly fires the last of it’s energy in a last-ditch beam to take you down. But it doesn’t feel very powerful, you can block this.“NO!!” Ace shouts, teleporting between you and the beam. Then, with only an instant to act swipes his hand, creating a partial shield of energy. Her attack strikes the shield, reflecting it skyward. You look up, seeing an oblivious flock of birds flying overhead. The energy beam strikes one, holding it in place for several moments before the attack ends. Glancing back over to 21, her eyes roll up in the back of her head as she falls, the last of her energy used up to strike a bird. You turn to the goose, it seemingly remembering to fly once it draws level with you two. Wait, something’s wrong. It’s flying, but isn’t flapping it’s wings. And Ace, to your surprise, takes his stance and squares up to the goose. What?“Well now, this wasn’t according to plan.” the goose says, somehow in 21’s voice. What in the hell is going on here?
>>4387537“What? No, hold on, what?! What the actual hell is going on here?!” you ask, both of Ace and the goose. “21’s now a goose?!”“Not for long!” the goose shouts, spreading it’s wings wide. “Change Now!!”“MOVE!!” Ace shouts, shoving you aside and leaping in the opposite direction. Luckily neither of you are hit, but this is getting too weird. Time to end this!“HAAAAA!!” you shout, firing another quick Final Flash. This one finds it’s mark, your blast obliterating the goose-woman-android-weirdness. Seeing your attack finished her off you sigh out, turning back towards Ace. “Well, that was...Different. Ready to go back?”And wordlessly he nods, pulling the scroll from the capsule and holding it towards you. You reach out and grab it, then once more you feel yourself getting pulled through time to reappear in the Time Nest. Ace hands the scroll to Trunks, who holds it oddly close to himself.“So why’d you send us out there?” you ask him, curiously. “Those androids were really weak, I didn’t even go into my final form.”“You were the closest, strongest patrollers available.” he replies simply, but something in the way he says that makes you think he’s lying. But whatever, if that weakling wants to lie it doesn’t really bother you. “And, thank you.”“Yeah yeah, whatever.” you say, turning from Trunks back to Ace. “C’mon, we’re not done yet!”Trunks looks back and forth between you, clearly confused. But before he can ask any more questions you reach out, grab onto Ace’s hand, and begin pulling him away. After you’ve made it back up the steps and outside the building, you suddenly realize what you’re doing as 21’s words come back into your mind.“What you and your boyfriend do is of no concern to me.” she’d said, as if you actually dating someone wasn’t a huge deal. But you’d never dated anyone before, and, come to think of it, isn’t hand-holding a big step. Like, a really BIG step? And you’re-! Suddenly you feel yourself blushing, and almost let go of him. But to your surprise he actually keeps ahold of your hand, you turning surprised to look up at his face to see Ace blushing bright red, but also smiling. You can’t help but match his smile with one of your own, and holding onto each other you walk out of the Time Nest side-by-side. You don’t know what the future holds; but maybe, just maybe, you won’t always be out facing it alone. -Saiyan Conqueror Quest 136 Epilogue End-
>>4387540Ace better be careful. We'll show him what a Supervillan Wrathful Berserker is right if he breaks our baby girls heart.Also I doubt the Time Loli is happy about this.
> you gather your own power. Digging deep, pulling out all the stops and gathering every drop of power from your head to your tail, you slam everything you’ve got into that final barrier. It crumbles before your might, having knocked it down so many times before you easily charge through.hang on this sounds familiar...isn't this how a berserker 3 becomes a berserker god?
>>4387540I approve of ace. He's a strong boy, and he's properly protecting chaya. He didn't even turn into a whimpering pussy after karn snapped his spine in half, unlike some i could name.
>>4387588>Ace better be careful. We'll show him what a Supervillan Wrathful Berserker is right if he breaks our baby girls heart.Pft no way dude we'll just use the Unlimited Dad mode. It's at least twice as strong as the Ascended Husband mode Vegeta used in the battle of gods movie. It's also 8000% less pussywhipped.
>>4387588>Also I doubt the Time Loli is happy about this.Gif related, perhaps>>4387601Once you’ve achieved the ‘final’ form for any path, it still can take considerable effort to transform.>>4387666>He's a strong boy, and he's properly protecting chayaHave to give him credit for that one. He got Ginyu’d once, and never fell for it again. Also like someone I could name.>>4387668>Unlimited Dad WorksHa.
>>4388087>are you sure about that?Imagine a future where chaya and karn tolerate the time-loli's existence.A future where they actually help to preserve the timeline, because although they hate the fuck out of her, they also realize the importance of not letting assholes destroy it.
>>4388087>Unlimited Dad Works>I am the dad of my kids>Katchin is my body and love pumps my heart >I have fathered over a thousand kids>Unaware of retreat>Nor aware of distance>Have withstood pain to protect all my children>So these hands will never know emptiness>My whole life is, Unlimited Dad Works
>>4388167You misunderstand. Why would the Supreme Kai of Time mind that one of her most dangerous enemies is falling for one of her most blindly loyal soldier?>>4388232Nice
>>4388755Why would she assume that Ace wouldn't start to question her once Chaya (and by extension Towa) got her hooks into him?
>>4388838Because the player controlling Ace is a waifufag and thus devoid of critical thinking skills.
>>4388965I sometimes wonder how far from the truth that actually is.Also if Karn's alternate timeline grandchild is a fucking ginger I'm rioting.
In an alternate universe, Ace quest fags are going nuts about the fact they're about to try waifuing the enemy, especially since they seem to be cursed with bad rolls when fighting her dad.
>>4389067>trying to waifu our rival>direct relation to one of our greatest enemies>also her dad gave us PTSDI KEEP TELLING YOU PEOPLE TO KEK TRUNKS BUT YOU NEVER LISTEN!
>>4389067>>4389102>"bro wtf shes not even a canon waifu">"LMAO you cucks don'tr even know a buncha Mira's ran a train on the bitch">ITT: manlets scared of a girl with better abs than them>"I wonder if she can give a tailjob">"I'm just saying guys Buu is the best waifu because he has a literally infinite anal circumference even though he doesn't have an anus.">"Dudes you know her dad is going to literally skullfuck us">">tfw you just wanted to try to steal her moves and she steals your heart"What fresh hell is this?
>>4389067>>4389102>>4389176God imagine the reactions to Karn breaking Ace’s back in that timeline?>THE DICE GODS HAVE ABANDONED US!>this Karn guy is basically Diet Broly so how the fuck can he touch us as a Super Saiyan Blue?!>Geez, no wonder Trunks is scared of this guy >If it weren’t for the fact that I saw the critfails then I’d be calling bullshit on this>this goddamn quest is cursed
>>4389191>Bizarro GD slowly but surely lets details about Chaya's extended family out during the quest>one anon finally puts it together>"Did Karn adopt Broly in his timeline?">"Yes. He's like a brother to Chaya in that timeline as well.">thread implodes as anons hit panic mode
>>4389194>Bizarre GD makes an epilogue that reveals Karn is fucking Meloka and Towa at the same timeImagine the reactions to that?
>>4389219>What the fuck, we're literally fighting goddamn gigachad?>>4388755Nah i get that, i'm just imagining... probably the best case scenario. Probably. Hatred but co-existence.
>>4388838Because why would anyone question her?>>4388965>Because the player controlling Ace is a waifufag and thus devoid of critical thinking skills.>>4389041>I sometimes wonder how far from the truth that actually is.Uhhhhh, no comment>Also if Karn's alternate timeline grandchild is a fucking ginger I'm rioting.You say that as if Karn and Meloka’s genes wouldn’t be dominant>>4389067A bigger shitshow was when the final battle with Demigra wasn’t interrupted by Goku, but Future Chaya showed up instead.>>4389102Wonder how she’s dealing with Trunks being the ‘next’ Supreme Kai of Time?>>4389176That sounds like several of your average /qst/anons>>4389191That would be Som-levels of salt right there. Except his big shitshows were failures on 90+ rolls, and just straight death on 1s.>>4389194Oh yeah, players not knowing ‘her’ Broly passed on would be fear-inspiring.>>4389219“Goddamn shit QM self-inserting as his Gary Stu 3cool5meOCDonutSteel.>>4389265There are many, many ways for this to end. And many of them not pretty
>>4388838Because Ace is a wish made warrior his only purpose is to fight the Time Kai's enemies his whole not speaking thing is probably a sign of his natural inability to speak against His Kai Overlady
>>4389382Also I’ve been meaning to ask. Did Dumplin’s main Towa, Puddin’s mother, defect to Mechikabura’s side as well?
>>4389436Well, technically TRUNKS is the one who made that wish. A warrior strong enough to fix time.>>4389518Yes, she’s the one he saved from Future Chaya and Godsend. And also why Dumplin’s so upset. Mechikabura just waltzed in then stole his power and woman. For him this is personal.
>>4389902>Mechikabura just waltzed in then stole his power and woman.>and womanI mean I know Mechikabura is a demon, but still, isn’t Towa his granddaughter?
>>4390041Stole her as in her loyalty to him. She was his first and most trusted Towa
>>4390212He fell victim to one of the classic blunders.Most famous is never go into a Som thread expecting anything but disappointment.But only slightly less well known is this;NEVER TRUST A FUCKING THOT!
>>4390729All Towas are queens.
>>4390740I believe you mean Princesses. Since she’s the literal Princess of the Demon Realm. Although in any timeline where Dabura is dead, she would be next in line to inherit the throne.
>>4390810It's a meme bro.
I'mma be honest, I kind of can't wait till ace and future chaya have to explain that they are a couple to Karn, cause thats gonna be a thing.
>>4387540Very exciting Epilogue.So much happened. >>4389067>In an alternate universe, Ace quest fags are going nuts about the fact they're about to try waifuing the enemy, especially since they seem to be cursed with bad rolls when fighting her dad.Crazy possibility.Chaya and Ace are starting to like each other more and more.>>4387588>Also I doubt the Time Loli is happy about this.It is not even just about what only Chronoa will think of them. Whatever is Supreme Kai of Time's opinion on this matter is of course important but... Ace is not some random member of the Time Patrol. Quote from "https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Future_Warrior"> In Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, the Future Warrior returns as special NPC who is a legendary Time Patroller known by the title of Toki Toki City HeroAce is>a legendary Time Patroller known by the title of Toki Toki City HeroEveryone in Time Patrol knows who he is. Chaya and Ace getting closer might attract a lot of attention. >"I've seen Ace holding hands with a pretty girl.">"Really? Who?">"Is she a new Time Patroller?">"Is she a Time Breaker?!">"Ace is dating girl allied with Demon Princess Towa?!"I'm not saying that's exactly what they might say, but still the subject of Chaya and Ace being together may become a hot topic of discussions and rumors.Picture related: >monument of Ace.>>4389518>Did Dumplin’s main Towa, Puddin’s mother, defect to Mechikabura’s side as well?>>4389902>Yes, she’s the one he saved from Future Chaya and Godsend. And also why Dumplin’s so upset.>>4390212>Stole her as in her loyalty to him. She was his first and most trusted TowaThat's a big news. I wonder how Puddin is reacting to her mom doing this.As this matter with Mechikabura is getting bigger and bigger will it force many people to pick side?Maybe and even those who prefer to stay more unaligned?>Like for example Fu.I know this question above probably can't be answered as it could be too much of a spoiler, but I'm curious nevertheless. Perhaps we will find out in the near future.
>>4390729>>4390740Ha, I got that reference>captn.gif>>4391249That could be a hard day for them both.>>4391389Glad you enjoyed.>Everyone in Time Patrol knows who he is. Chaya and Ace getting closer might attract a lot of attention.It will, and already has to a large extent. Although as you point out many are more concerned with a Towa in their midst. Which your Towa enjoys to a degree.>That's a big news. I wonder how Puddin is reacting to her mom doing this.Poorly>FuHe’ll remain on his own side. But will certainly attempt to play both, or even all three sides against each other for his own experiments.
>>4391389That "monument" still pisses me off. A proper statue is made of bronze at minimum, not a disposable fucking holographic projector.
Only around 24 hours to go before the next episode finally begins!
>>4392368Apparently the ‘canon’ aura color for Apex is this shade of purple-violet.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wMY6gRLMedwThen again you could probably find a way to handwave it.
>>4393262>Then again you could probably find a way to handwave it.Don’t even have to, look HOW they got it
>>4393385Useless fools needed a Group of Gods to boost them, how *P A T H E T I C*
>>4393400Oh, and Pan
>>4393385Fair nuff'. I imagine if they get Apex the same way here then Future Chaya will never let them live it down.
Is it bad I kind of still want to dad Fuu and Trunks? Prolly won't happen but the memes and idea that Fuu just needs a good father-figure makes me want to try to an extent. Wouldn't be our first strange psuedo-adopted child.
>>4393628Trunks is allowed to stop by for a beer or to talk about life.Fuu is getting his ass beat like he just kicked our space dog.
>>4387535Yeeep...she's Meloka's daughter alright.
>>4387540STOP BEING ADORABLE WITH THE ENEMY! Also got proper internet and can use my computer again. Yay.
>>4389102>>4389176>>4389191>>4389219>>4389265.....you know, it's scary, with multiverse theory we may very well be speaking our reverse thoughts as a joke, and they are doing the same to us, in a mirrored infinite pool of knowledge/archives only Bizzaro GD would know the potential of....makes you think like Pink Bitch with all those possibilities.
>>4389902Oooooh fuck, she gonna get more tan daddies belt with this.
>>4390740Ours is, but only because we properly bred her with a very dommy yandere wife to keep her extra humble. Others vary wildly as Goku's functioning brain cells.
>>4391249No emotion on our face besides a smile to our baby girl and telling her Auntie Towa needs to see her real quick. Followed by Karn locking the door behind her quietly and turning to Ace. Boi shall be said once, and with such menace, that Ace achieves Ultra Instinct without noticing that launches him to a hiding position near the ceiling corner of the room out of fear. And he cant move an inch as Karn sits down calmly on a chair in front of him. Cut to Trunk's reflex cringe of fear as his instincts tell him to be grateful he isnt near Ace's house right now, and to make himself scarce. Coincidentally, pure Saiyan Time Patrolers mysteriously giant testicles and become extra aggressive, that is never explained out of game as anything more than a hackers glitch they don't fully understand.
>>4391423Fucking nerd, doesn't know right from wrong.
>>4393262Bitches got shown up by our daughter, as is normal. But Vegeta knows he can do it himself, so now there is almost no way this happens.
>>4393262From what I remember GD never mentioned a legendary/Beserk Apex form being possible through training could it be that with this discovery that karn could achieve it through a ritual?
>>4393400DBSXeno Goku and Vegeta had thought their power had peaked with their transformation, only for Chaya to prove them wrong.>>4393459Quite possibly>>4393628I mean, everyone needs a father figure.>>4393863Very much so>>4393865Congratulations>>4393872If Dumplin wins.>>4393884Of course he doesn’t, he wasn’t raised right.
Episode 137 has begun! >>4394184