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The Grail War continues, and you're taking a bit of a break. R&R is important.

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.

The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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You observe everyone as they go about things at the arcade, with Rider refusing to stop playing on a Daytona racing arcade machine for the entire duration of the time you are at the arcade. Illya seems more focused on playing as wide a variety of games as she can. Not allowing herself to get bogged down in going for a victory on any of the games she plays and instead moving on almost immediately from most of the cabinets. At one point, Saber, wearing a dress fairly similar to the one Rin ended up giving her ends up challenging Rider to the racing game, before summarily losing to the Servant with the superior Riding Skill with ease.

Then she kept demanding a rematch over and over again. Seems like the Riding skill somehow translate into extreme skill at Arcade machines with steering wheels and pedals in addition to just animals and vehicles. You aren't even going to question the logic here, but at least the two of them appear to be enjoying themselves. Saber's competitive spirit is flaring up massively as she continually demands rematches. Shirou and Sakura spend the majority of their own time looking at their Servants with concerned expressions. Caster and Betty just spend almost all of the time by your side, the two of them do play on a few of the machines at your behest, and while they both seem to have some interest in the machines, they aren't smitten with the machines like Saber and Rider have fallen for the racing cabinet. Oh well, at least neither of them seem to hate the place. You weren't really expecting the two of them to have much love for the arcade anyway, honestly. The trip was made more with Illya in mind than anything else, mostly to cheer her up about having lost her Servant. She really needed to have something positive to do after your first attempt to reclaim her Servant was foiled.

Soon enough, everyone seems to have gotten bored of the arcade... well, everyone except Saber and Rider with Saber determined to somehow defeat Rider despite the current record between the two of them being thirty seven wins for Rider... and a complete lack of any victories at all for Saber. Rider seems more than happy to effortlessly defeat Saber every time that she demands a rematch. Though when she's told that it's time to leave by Sakura, Rider seems happy to leave Saber in complete and utter defeat. The proud King of Knights completely and utterly defeated in a contest of skill by the purple haired woman. Rider now seems to emanate a smug aura upon defeating her fellow Servant, who clearly isn't very happy about her loss at all. What was Saber expecting? She challenged a Rider to a race with vehicles. Her loss or more accurately, her losses, were practically guaranteed from the very start.
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"Alright, everyone. I think it's about time we ought to get going now." You check your watch and take note of the time. It's already 6:30 PM, and while half of your faction seem to be enjoying themselves on the arcade machines, you can tell that Shirou and Sakura are clearly suffering as they both try to convince Saber to just stop playing, all while Rider simply taunts her with that smug aura she emanates, the subtle smirks she's giving Saber when she thinks that nobody else is paying any attention to her. Looks like Rider really does take pride in her ability to drive, to the point where she's practically antagonizing Saber for daring to impede upon her realm of expertise. You're going to let Saber drive everyone back to teach Rider a lesson in humility, you think. She might enjoy winning, but the purpose of this trip was to get everyone to bond in order to better work as a team as well as to raise general morale. At least Saber seems to like the dress that she purchased, though it doesn't really seem suited to the cold of the winter. It might be an idea to get Rin to share some clothing with Saber after all. Relying on Shirou and a woman who lived most of her life pretending to be a man to purchase women's clothing probably wasn't the wisest choice you could've made. Then again, Saber is a Servant, so it's unlikely she'll even notice the cold. Still, she looks just a little bit silly wearing something that is so obviously meant to be a summer dress in the cold winter. "We ought to be getting back home, I think. We've got a busy night ahead of us, and I want to make sure that we're prepared for what lies ahead." Tonight basically ensures a difficult battle if you wish to retrieve Avenger. You don't know if it is possible to deal with the threat in the grail once and for all right now, but you should at least attempt to rescue Avenger, even if you can't win in an all out assault. Saber might be roughly equal to Saber Alter, but Saber Alter has a massive advantage in seemingly having a huge amount more magical energy than Saber herself does. The ability to use Mana Burst as much as she wants is easily powerful enough to allow Alter to take the edge over her uncorrupted counterpart, and of course, as she has more magical energy at her disposal, then her usage of Excalibur Morgan will likely end up overpowering Saber's own holy sword.
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You get murmurs of agreement from most of your allies, but a look of stern disappointment from Saber. Seems she was still holding out hope for a victory against Rider. It's probably a mercy that you don't allow Saber to continue to sink effort into what is obviously becoming a sunk cost fallacy. She's spent so much time trying to beat Rider that to just leave on a defeat isn't something she's happy accepting. Illya looks like she's had fun at least, while Caster and Betty just spent most of the time by your side for some reason. You'll find something the two of them enjoy doing eventually, but it seems that they just preferred to spend time near you, you might've wanted them to get more involved in the activities of the arcade, but it looks like the two of them just don't really care for such things. You expected Caster wouldn't really be taken by them on account of having lived in an era where magic that was at least on the level of what technology can do in the current world was commonplace, but Betty's reaction is a surprising one. Looks like this particular advancement of technology just isn't something she personally finds impressive, despite her outfit suggesting she was only from a few centuries ago at most..

The group walks out of the arcade and quickly ends up returning to the car. Saber seems overjoyed when you offer her the keys to drive the car back to your home, not that she apparently needs keys with that damn nonsensical Riding skill of hers, while it's not as confusing as Rider's in how effective it is, wrapping your head around that particular ability is still something that you find a little confusing. Though you'll need to end up instructing her of just where to go, you don't really mind. If a threat does appear on the road, then loathe as you are to admit it, everyone would be far safer with either Rider or Saber driving. Besides, this is a minor punishment for Rider not being a graceful winner at all. Saber might be a sore loser, but Rider was clearly challenging Saber's ego, and the bruised ego of a king isn't something that you want to be forced to deal with because Rider was having too much fun tormenting Saber for her inability to beat her in a game.

Saber seems to be far more restrained than Rider is when it comes to driving, and you are truly thankful that she hasn't turned into a speed demon. In fact, she seems to be taking things somewhat more slowly than necessary, almost as if she's trying to go slow on purpose. Is this her way of getting back at Rider? It's surprisingly petty, especially for Saber, but you suppose than when a sore loser meets a bad winner, something like this was guaranteed to end up happening. At least the form of her revenge is ultimately harmless. It's not that long a journey back to your home anyway.
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As Saber drives and you give her directions to your mansion, Illya speaks up. "So... we're going to be attacking the temple again tonight, aren't we? I was wondering just what sort of approach you were thinking of taking when it actually comes to our attack." Illya seems to have become just a little bit impatient about the idea of waiting any longer to discuss the actual attack that will hopefully lead to her getting back her Servant. You don't really mind answering her here though. She had a rough day yesterday and also today, honestly. It couldn't have been easy for her to just accept Shirou like she did.

>You'll favor discretion. Have a small party attempt to sneak in to retrieve Avenger while avoiding direct confrontation with the enemy.
>You'll create a diversion. If you can trick your enemies and divert their attention elsewhere, then it'll be easier for a Servant strike team to break in and get away with Avenger.
>You'll take the full-on assault option. Open with an Anti-Army Noble Phantasm in order to catch them unaware and off-guard. Then with any luck, you can use that time to deal with a few of the opponent servants through outnumbering the active defenders before they can fully respond to your assault.
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
>Write-in...
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>>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
She can teleport past bounded fields right?
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>>4480258
Let's go big. Full on assault. We need to make sure Caster and Betty have all the energy they need. Betty needs to make a ton of beakies.
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>>4480275
Support
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I feel like sneaking in is just bound to end in failure. They have an assassin on their team, and we have almost nothing in the way off stealth.
Diversion could work but I don't feel good about splitting our forces.
Assault is a good idea. There is a good chance we can just straight up kill whoever is standing on lookout by our first attack.
Teleporting in is Assault but better in every way.
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>>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
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>>4480258
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
Initial chaos can be used to break Avenger free.
Might be worth to have Betty summon some monsters and buff them beforehand to buy more time and confuse enemies.
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>>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
we have no way to go stealth, we, however, have a lot of heavy hitters so getting the first strike is gonna cause chaos in the temple
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>>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
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We should probably inform our allies of the servants from the last war because the servants in the temple are 4th grail war participants.
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>>4480440
We should do it once we get home.
We should also ask Medea to scry for Kerry, Kirei and Zouken. And ask Betty to create a few of her creatures. They can be used to defend our base while we are away or aid us in the assault.
I am not sure about design tho. More Beakys maybe?
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>>4480258
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
It's basically full on assault but we don't have to walk through the front gate.
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>>4480258

>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!

Works best for our objective imo
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>>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!

>>4480440
Lancelot will likely rush Artoria, Diarmuid might too if he remembers what happened.
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>>4480651
that's great, 2 servants mindlessly rushing 1 target let's us better come up with a plan and get a better grasp of more factors
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>>4480275
Support
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>>4480258
>You'll take the full-on assault option. Open with an Anti-Army Noble Phantasm in order to catch them unaware and off-guard. Then with any luck, you can use that time to deal with a few of the opponent servants through outnumbering the active defenders before they can fully respond to your assault.
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>>4480651
lancelot already got the punishment he was looking for didnt he
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>>4480886
Not ever servant is Artoria or EMIYA, memories of past HGW don't carry over unless its FGO
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>>4480651
I think we shouldn't assume that temple servants will act as normal servants since we don't know how autonomous they are.
Last time we saw Diarmund he displayed exactly zero personality and acted more like a puppet.
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>>4480258
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
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I've been a little busy on account of the uh... tree. So I won't be able to get a second update out tonight.
It's about halfway done.

We're locked into teleport now though.
Feel free to talk about potential ways you can go about the attack other than your entrance though.
Any particular enemies you want to focus on as threats, strategies to deal with specific enemies, etc.
There will still be a larger plan made with all your allies, but you've got enough information now to start planning, I think.
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Can someone tell me how does teleportation works in this setting?
Does mage need to actually see destination or is rough idea of it's whereabouts enough?
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>>4481149
From what I understand Medea can basically teleport anywhere as long as she has the mana.
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So here is the plan:
1) Our servants, Shinji, Shirou and a few Beaky-type abominations teleport to temple's entrance.
2) Gangbang whoever is standing at the entrance.
3) Wait for temple servants to make a move. If they attack us have them fight our servants with abomination support. If they don't attack proceed through temple while using Beakys as minesweepers for traps and ambushes.
4) Find Avenger and Rulebreaker or dispell whatever is holding him.
5) Get the fuck out with teleportation.

The reason I want to leave Illya and Sakura home is that they both are lesser grails and I think having corrupted grail anywhere near them is a bad idea.
The reason I want to leave Rin, Monica and Bazett home is that I am afraid that in our absence someone might attack our base. Also in a fight against servants they wouldn't be very useful anyway.

If the fight will be in a 1v1 form we should do it like this:
Medea vs French Tentacle Mage (Medea should be able to just annihilate this guy)
Arthuria vs Edgy Arthuria
Lancer vs Lancer
EMIYA vs Hassan (I think he can beat them)
Betty vs Lancelot
Medusa vs Iskandar (Her eyes should at least partially counter his army)
Beakys supporting where needed and Shinji healing and also supporting.

If the fight will be in a squad vs squad form we should do it like this:
Arthuria and Lancer at the front.
Betty holding off Lancelot.
Medusa and Beakys doing melee support.
Medea and Archer doing range damage while also looking out for Assassin.
Shinji healing.
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Alternatively we could ask Illya for her Avenger's name then have Medea scry his location and teleport him to us.
Would that work?
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>>4481193
>>4481202
That sounds too good to be true, how bold of you to assume they would just let you have your usual shonen jump 1v1 fights.
We don't even know if the thing/person responsible for summoning altered version of servants is in there or how powerful it is.
Your solution is just so text book anime clichés it's not even worth it.
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>>4481213
I gave 3 different solutions and You gave exactly zero.
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>>4481213
If it's not worth it then how about we just have a dinner at home and then go to sleep?
I am sure that would satisfy You.
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>>4480258
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
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>>4481225
Sounds good
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>>4481213
Have you forgotten that this world functions with tropes like this?
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>4480258
>>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
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>>4481330
Sorry, double tap -- do not tally this.
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>>4480258
Teleport strike, if we can do some scrying just before (only scry just before the assault to not tip the enemy off - it wouldn't do to jump into a worm pit or into an ambush)

Given option, jump into position where we can liberate hostages, or neutralize biggest threat first, in this order.

Also we should discuss with our team what we know of enemy capabilities as well as what we don't know.

And then there's issue whether we attack before or after meeting with the demon? Because aside from the meeting itself possibly being a trap, even if she decides to join us (and we keep our allies from smiting her) she may still be a security hazard if, willingly or not, she conveys information to her master.
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>>4481338
>liberate hostages
Are there other hostages aside from Avenger?
>And then there's issue whether we attack before or after meeting with the demon?
We have a fixed time for the Shuten meeting and a whole night for temple assault. In the worst case we can do temple tomorrow.
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>>4481225
That doesn't sound that bad.
In fact, I would also suggest to give all of our servants full control to shirou and let him lead the operation. Since he's the protagonist and we're shiroufags, I think it'll goes exactly the way that makes it so that ever girl will have an orgy with him.
We could just fuck off to misaki or london in the mean time.

Isn't that what we shiroufags wants?
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>>4481360
>Isn't that what we shiroufags wants?
I wouldn't know.
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>>4481362
Surely you jest.
Getting shirou a harem and we can only just watch aside, this hgw is becoming too repetitive. Wouldn't you ever wonder what if we venture into other conflicts?
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>>4481360
why are you so salty and bitter?
There's literally zero reason to hate Shirou now that there's a confirmed spare Artoria around.

>>4481345
Well we know of Avenger but Cu didn't exactly have time to do a lot of scouting. It would suck to get upper hand in a fight only for some character we don't want to die to be dragged out of the basement and put at tentaclepoint.
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>>4481370
Unless I am forgetting someone I am pretty sure every character we care about is either at our house or far away from Fuyuki.
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>>4481370
Salty? I'm through and true shiroufag at heart. I'm even the one who samefag the vote on saving kerry and encourage shirou to talk with illya.
And hell, most of you even agree that Medea should be shirou servant instead of us, which I too agree on that part.

You're not even a shiroufag, fuck off.
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>>4481373
>most of you even agree that Medea should be shirou servant instead of us
If most people agree on this and You even admit to samefaging then how come Medea is our servant right now and not Shirou's?
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>>4481376
There's no choice on offering medea as shirou second servant. Trust me, I would choose and samefag those if that exist.
Oh yeah, I did use multiple IPs to make it legit. You'd be surprise that those IDs with more than 5 posts is actually me.
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>>4481378
Fag
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>>4481378
You have already admitted to being a shiroufag.
I would not be surprised by You partaking in any atrocity or perversion imaginable.
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>>4481378
>shiroufags
and people complain about coomers when shiroufags are the real cancer
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>>4481193
>leaving anyone behind
anyone left behind just means they get zoukened
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>>4480258
>Teleport strike. Caster will bring everyone capable of being useful in a combat scenario against Servants into the Temple at the same time. It's the ultimate way to catch them off guard without even alerting them!
Good plan
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>>4481379
>>4481380
>>4481392
>SEETHING
kek, can't wait for all the reaction when shirou get to fuck rider, betty, medea, illya and monica
The seeth would probably enough to blow you fags up
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>>4481409
Stop acting like a faggot, anon.
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>>4481409
Sakura is best girl
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"I was thinking that we should utilize Caster's abilities to facilitate our attack, actually." You reveal the begginings of your plan of attack. If Caster can teleport you all in, that means you've got a massive advantage and might just mean you can kill off multiple enemies before they can even stop your assault, and by that time, the balance in power would've shifted entirely into your own favor!

"Which... Caster?" Illya asks for clarification. For a moment there you kind of forgot that everyone else is under the impression the Betty is some variety of Caster class Servant. Well, it's easier to tell them that than to admit the truth about Betty. You'd end up having to answer so many questions that you yourself are unaware of the answers to. No, it's best that you keep the truth behind Betty as a secret.

"Oh. Right. I am referring to my second Caster, of course." You quickly correct yourself. Even though there probably shouldn't have been a need. Illya isn't the most strategically inclined, you understand, but surely even she should realize that you were speaking of Caster's ability to teleport herself and others? Though her spacial transportation ability is one with limits that Illya is unaware of, so maybe she's just not taking things for granted and assuming that Caster is capable of teleporting everyone?

'Second Caster, Master? I ought to take offense!' A voice rings out in your mind. 'But I suppose I can't really complain all too much about the alias my... fellow servant seems to have taken for herself. I can quite clearly see that she's not a magus of any sort.' Seems that Caster seems to have figured out just what Betty is... or, well she's close enough that she can make guesses about the origin of Betty's abilities. Of course Caster would figure out that she wasn't truly an actual spellcaster though. You're just surprised that it took her so little time to do so. You suppose that when she gets to take a good look at something, pulling the wool over her eyes is just as difficult as it is with Touko. While you have more respect for your own teacher, for having a far more pragmatic approach to her status as a magecraft prodigy, it's far more likely that the two are both products of their ages. With Touko being forced to excel in pragmatism thanks to her environment, and Medea, being taught by a literal Goddess of Magecraft, was effectively just taught the opposite. After all, deities aren't exactly the sorts of beings known for the pragmatism. At least under circumstances, and especially not the Greek ones.
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"Right, and what exactly are you planning to do with Caster?" Illya seems to still want more information about your plan, even if it's still in the early stages and you don't really know yourself. You can tell that the girl must just be worried about getting her Servant back. You can't blame her for being slightly paranoid about the prospect of failure once again. The last time you went to the temple without planning you suffered a humiliating retreat at the hands of the altered servants, thankfully though, other than some superficial injuries dealt to Lancer and Beaky, who seems to really only appear when Betty needs it, there wasn't any real damage done. Except to your own pride, you suppose. Even if it was something you couldn't have possibly planned for, you still find yourself thinking that your planning prior to the war was insufficient. How could an oversight the size of the grail being further corrupted have passed you by?

Setting aside your own thoughts on what you consider to be your failure to remain vigilant for potential changes that could end up ruining everything for a moment, you instead answer Illya's question "Isn't it obvious? All we need to do is have Caster teleport everyone through the first line of the temple's defenses, then, while the first line of their defense is confused by our sudden appearance, we can dispose of them with relative ease!" While you will kind of feel bad sending the altered servants back to their graves once again, it's a necessary evil, if it can even be called that. They aren't the heroes they once were anymore, and you don't really have the luxury of being able to test if you can break the hold of whatever evil has ensnared them with Caster's help. At least death will be a mercy that you can actually grant them. Thought it might be an idea to see what sort of effect Rule Breaker has on an Altered Servant. If an opportunity comes up, there's obviously no reason not to at least try to see if you can usurp control over your enemies own strength. If you managed to pull that off, you feel like the balance of power would shift in your favor to a tremendous degree

'Interesting, I see you aren't going to leave anything to chance here, Master. Doesn't it feel a little bit like cheating to you though? For our enemies to go through so much effort in setting up their defenses, only to have a far more talented magic user just bypass them in their entirety.' Caster laughs very briefly through the mental link. Seems like she has no opposition to this plan. In fact, she seems to be relishing in being able to show off her magical superiority, it seems.
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'I'm glad that you enjoy the first stage of our attack plan, Caster.' This plan would've been in quite the odd place already if Caster was unable or unwilling to teleport everyone inside the bounded field of Fuyuki's temple. You also considered having her just scry for Avenger to teleport him away, but there wouldn't be much point to that, you think. Whatever is keeping Avenger trapped inside the temple is able to resist the spatial transportation effect of the Command Spells, so simply attempting the same thing through a different method with Caster would be an exercise in futility.

Illya seems relatively pleased by your chosen plan. "That's a... plan I can support to stop whatever thieving monster is trying to steal Avenger from me." Illya doesn't really seem to get on very well with Caster right now, unfortunately, but even she can't deny the magical brilliance of a highly skilled Caster like Medea. You look at Illya in the rear view, and her expression changes to one of intense hatred and loathing for the unknown adversary behind the Servant theft as she recalls just how she lost . Or well, attempted Servant theft right now. Avenger must be excellent at resisting commands and control if it's taken so long for something with the full power of the grail to corrupt him.

You turn around in your seat to give Illya a reassuring smile. "Don't worry Illya. I have complete faith in both Caster and all the Servants in our faction. They're all very strong. They won't fail." Of course, you won't be bringing Illya along. Sakura will also be staying at the mansion too. While the two of them might have a lot of raw magical power and Sakura if she had the inclination to fight could very easily ruin a Servants day with her own magecraft, the two of them aren't exactly... experienced with battles.. Bringing them along would almost certainly turn them into liabilities that require protecting. Shirou, Rin, Bazett and Monica however are all strong and experienced enough in how to act in a fight that it's somewhat safe to take them along. Monica's destructive output is about on the level of a Servant anyway, and Rin with her gems is capable of dishing out enough damage to kill Servants that don't have high level magic resistance. Then there's Shirou and Bazett, both of whom wield Noble Phantasms. Though Shirou wields a significant amount more than Bazett does, both of them could be terribly effective in the approaching battle.
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It isn't that much longer until Saber has finished driving back, and after a few instructions, she manages to park it in the garage. As you get out of the car, you think of something you know that you really really do not want to mess up. You check your phone and find that there's a single unread message. You quickly open it and read the brief message from one of your men. 'Warehouse 3." Looks like they must've been successful in their task, and in record time as well! Though that does leave you a final thing to decide in regards to the seductive oni...

>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)
>Write-in...
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)

Tell sakura we are going to meet with someone dangerous. And that if I dont return that the attack should be called off and to prepare for a counter attack.
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>>4481429
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)

this carries the risk of getting caught up in some mess once we pop the temple. But if zouken is aligned with what's happening inside and he knows we have a date with shuten he is unlikely to expect us to make another move at the temple before that, or to try to raid our home.

If we do the attack afterwards and Shuten will tell zouken illya, sakura or both are relatively unprotected while we're busy raiding the temple we're asking for problems.
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>>4481425
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)
Just have the faceless goons deliver the alcohol like we planned before. No need to fuck ourselves over with possible complications when avenger is on a time limit.
We never did promise to meet shuten, we only promised her alcohol.
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
I want Shuten to be busy with the booze while we assault the temple, I don't want her to suddenly appears towreak havoc or target Illya and Sakura.
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>>4481425
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)
there's less risk of putting the meeting off after the attack. We have to worry about Sakura and Illya staying back, worst case scenario can happen if we meet up with Shuten before
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>>4481425
Go and see shuten
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)

Tell sakura we are going to meet with someone dangerous. And that if I dont return that the attack should be called off and to prepare for a counter attack.
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>>4481425
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)
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>>4481425
>Put off meeting Shuten until after you've finished with the attack. (Attack occurs before 11pm.)
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Is the shirou Fag samefagging again?
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
Do the face-to-face meeting, as is proper. And then proposition for sex.
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>>4481461
i'm kinda lost rn, what's this i hear about a shiroufag samfagging? What did he do before?
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>>4481471
He said that uses multiple ips to rig votes. He's the reason we wasted so much time with Kerry
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>>4481471
The ESL coomer threw a fit earlier in the thread because a post mentioned Shirou.
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>>4481473
If you want my opinion as a QM, it's probably just a troll trying to false flag.
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>>4481476
I hope so.
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>>4481474
wait so he hates Shirou? What?
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>>4481485
You don't?
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>>4481461
Are you referring to Put off meeting votes and previous thread drama?
Because I personaly have no interests in both Shirou and Illya.
And I hoping to get to main action and mystery here since anons voted to avoid playing part of Case Files earlier on so I do not see reason to postpone now.
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
More fun to do it, than not.
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>>4481493
Shirou is based, so no
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Any faggotry I missed?
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>>4481501
Missing autistic rants about that would canon Shinji do and how we should do it just because.
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>>4481501
I'm the manaka guy...
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>>4481501
Its just absurd we still have our v card, just sayin
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>>4481501
I just want to make Touko and/or Medea a mother. I don't care about anyone else. My weakness to powerful witches will be the death of me.
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>>4481513
A noble goal.
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>>4481501
To be fair most problems can be solved with dickings in this universe.
That's why Merlin is so successful.
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>>4481515
Merlin was a NEET who spent his time shitposting from Avalon.
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>>4481517
Yeah but he's a half-incubus sex wizard at the same time.
He knows the forbidden spell of futanari.
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>>4481510
This
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Shuten has no magic resistance right?
Why not just have Caster bind her and Rurubureaka her while she's drinking?
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>>4481513
>touko and/or medea
You are a man of justice.
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>>4481538
she's an Oni so she has some type of Magic Resistance
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
Will the attack taking place after or before 11pm have any effects on it?
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
>>4481558
Yes.
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The only effect early attack will probably have is gonna be us missing time of Shuten's meeting.
Why did we even buy alcohol If we gonna just ignore this opportunity,
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>>4481438
>If we do the attack afterwards and Shuten will tell zouken illya, sakura or both are relatively unprotected while we're busy raiding the temple we're asking for problems.
And how would Shuten know that?
Are You going to tell her?
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>>4481441
good idea anon supporting
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>>4481501
>got my post in lolifag in the meme compilation
Based
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
I really don't want to end up in a situation where we're forced to run through the would for hours and miss our meeting with Shuten.
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>>4481501
Dragonblood faggotry.
Which we pussied out on.
>>4481547
No?
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>>4481558
We either lose out on Shuten or Avenger it seems.
Aka you're picking between Shuten and Ilya, pick whichever character you prefer.
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I dont know a single fucking thing about Fate or its lore.

Please help
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>>4481506
>>4481591
I'll add these if I ever do a v2. don't count on it.
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>>4481593
Just watch Tsukihime anime.
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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>>4481592
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>>4481592
I don't see why it would be a binary choice.
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No but seriously let's just test out our teleport strat on Shuten and cuck grampa out of his oni slut with Rule Breaker.
Shuten will probably need a fuckload of magical energy though.
Probably why she ate so many people already.
Dealing with Shuten sooner rather than later is a wise idea before she decides to eat somebody we like.
Or us.
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>>4481643
We need to meet her and let her taste our mana. Have Caster or someone as back up incase she gets too overworked on how good we taste. Once she see how great she is we can tell her if she joins us she'll have access to it whenever she wants.
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>>4481652
*See how great we taste
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>>4481652
Think she already had a taste of our blood.
Odds are she's just luring us into presenting ourselves to her as food along with expensive alcohol.
She'll dead end us one hundred percent if we go in without a plan.
So it's probably unwise to go with no plan unless you guys want the dead end where Shuten eats us. I kinda do ngl.
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>>4481663
Yeah but surely a kiss would be better than blood.
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>>4481667
Yes but she can just take everything if she just eats us in our entirety.
Don't think trying to seduce the literal man eater is a good idea without a safety net.
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>>4481673
Yeah that's why I said Caster or someone
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>>4481501
All jokes aside, I am absolutely 100% beyond a doubt sure that it is Manaka this time.
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I want to be eaten by Shuten!
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
We need to do this now. Perhaps if we are lucky we can get Shuten on our side.
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>>4481652
>We need to meet her and let her taste our mana
That sounds like a terrible idea, Medea had to hold herself back when she tasted us, Shuten is an Oni and with even LESS restraint
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>>4481506
fuck the canon shinju guy what a fucking retard nerd holy shit if i ever find him irl i will smack him
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>>4481506
Shinji got murdered by Sakura and Illya, why would you wanna do what he would do in any given situation
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>>4481425
>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)

Lets not make an enemy of her.

>>4481513

Same, but also with Monica thrown in.
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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>>4481592
We can easily do both.
We can go meet Shuten and then have whole night for Avenger.
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>>4481879
Speaking of Monica, do we have a stockpile of metal ingots placed throughout the house for her to make liberal use should the situation warrant it?
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>>4481879
Yeah Monica is good too but Medea/Touko are my top priority.
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>>4481796
It would be a nice dead end or failure. Miss the attack on the temple because spending literally all night blasting endless loads balls deep into Shuten Douji, engaged in the most hedonistic sex possible, and then dying because she can't help herself and drains Shinji dry. Using Truth to get Shuten knocked up would be great though
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>>4482059
so like Tsukihime where Shiki raping someone is a bad end
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>>4481796
>with even LESS restraint
With no restraint. She describes herself as a hedonist who act and live with her impulses.
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>>4482078
yeah she's either gonna eat us or fuck us to death if she gets a taste so, lets not
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>>4482099
I agree. Give her the booze, maybe make a joke or two to try to guess who her Master is and gtfo. All under the supervision of Caster.
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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Today is going to have to be another single update day unfortunately. I've had my hands a little bit full with the aftermath of the tree falling, so I've not really had too much time to write. It's a pain, but then again so is almost dying thanks to my neighbour's negligence in proper tree care.

So I'll just leave you with this.
You're not forgetting anything important, right?
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>>4482678
yo whatis, just wanted to apologize for the /qtg/ shitstorm caused by the meme.
100% did not expect such a shitstorm.
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>>4482678
>SAlter
SAlter's spammy Excalibur will be a pain to deal with that's for sure. Assuming that she does have an infinite mana supply to spam Excalibur like in HF. Can we get Caster to teleport behind her and Rule Break her in a literal "pssh nuthin' personal kid" move before she can react?
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>>4482721
Archer can use his bullshit technique he created specifically to counter Saber. If a half brain dead Shirou can pull it off, Archer definitely can
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>>4482678
>You're not forgetting anything important, right?
Monica?
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>>4482678
I dunno. I think Touko is still trying to scry Shirou for nothing, that's all that comes to mind.
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>>4482741
Would him showing up throw a wrench in our plans? Other than that I think everyone is in consensus of bringing Monica and everyone we have recruited so far in storming the temple. Is Touko scrying for Shirou gonna throw a wrench in our plans somehow?
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>>4482761
Maybe? You never know, Touko is kinda weird.
Also, I think waiting for the attack might risk Betty falling asleep but her narcolepsy is kind of random or plot convenient.
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>>4482761
Bringing Illya and Sakura to temple is a bad idea.
They are both lesser grails and them being anywhere close to corrupted grail can lead to problems.
In fact
>>4481424
>Of course, you won't be bringing Illya along. Sakura will also be staying at the mansion too. While the two of them might have a lot of raw magical power and Sakura if she had the inclination to fight could very easily ruin a Servants day with her own magecraft, the two of them aren't exactly... experienced with battles.. Bringing them along would almost certainly turn them into liabilities that require protecting.
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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>>4481425
>>Go and see Shuten before you go through with the attack. (Attack occurs after 11pm.)
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>>4481425
>Write-in...
>ask Shirou to go meet Shuten and convince her to become his second servant
He can do it, she will fell for him.
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>>4481425
>>4482899
Changing to>>4482902
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>>4482902
You just want him to die don't You.
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>>4482678
Im just here to watch the fire
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>>4482721
Caster isn't fast and Saber Alter has Instinct skill, you are sending Caster to her death with this plan.
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>>4482902
This is the dumbest thing ever but I do admit it is pretty funny.
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You'll go and meet her before you go ahead with the actual attack. You don't know just how your assault is going to go at this point. You feel like you've got enough power on your side now for it to be a success, but that still doesn't mean it's going to go perfectly. There are fairly decent odds that you'll be too injured or exhausted from the assault on the temple to actually go ahead with your meeting with Shuten if you plan it for before the time you're supposed to meet the enigmatic oni. You doubt that you're going to get another chance to make a good impression on the girl if you mess this up, and if things end up going really well then you can potentially even get Shuten on board with the assault! She's tremendously powerful, and would easily be capable of dispatching any of the corrupted Servants guarding the temple. Of course, you doubt that things are going to be so simple when it comes to dealing with her. Her Master obviously wants you dead already, so you might even need to be wary of a command spell having been used on her.

Musings on whether or not your scheduled meeting with Shuten should be prioritized over your attack on the temple aside, you finish the brief trek into your mansion and start making your way towards the dining room with everyone else in tow. Betty seems half asleep again, but has yet to actually allow herself to slumber. 'Betty. I think you ought to go and get some sleep upstairs for a while, OK? I'll fill you in on the plan we go for later on, when you wake up.' You quickly mentally instruct the girl to get a few hours of sleep before the attack. The last thing you need is your plan falling apart because Betty suddenly fell asleep instead of playing her part in the plan. Besides, she's not really going to be any assistance in planning anything anyway. You feel like you know enough of the abilities she possesses now to properly represent her in her stead when it comes to planning with everybody.

'Alright, Master. Just wake me up if you need anything though, OK?' Betty responds to you nearly instantly as she retakes spiritual form and lazily floats upstairs to one of the many bedrooms in the house. You hardly had to convince her at all. She must've really been trying her hardest not to fall asleep for the day. You probably ought to think of some way to reward her for her hard work. Though she speaks of waking her up like it's a simple thing for you to do. At least she uses slightly less of your magical energy when she's asleep, so it's not like there's absolutely no positives to her Narcolepsy. That's not to say that it's not horribly inconvenient most of the time though. On the bright side, you didn't end up summoning a genuinely evil Servant or something, and Betty does seem to be very powerful. You've not even seen her Noble Phantasm yet, and she's still highly capable as a combatant thanks to her familiars... when she's awake.
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As you open the door to the dining room, It's about 7PM right now, so with any luck, everyone should be waiting for you. Sure enough, as the door finishes opening, you can see Rin and Bazett waiting for you around the table. No sign of Monica though. She's probably still off investigating potential leads to follow in the grail war. It's kind of a shame that she's not here, but you suppose she's not entirely crucial to the planning process on account of not actually being a Master. Still, she could have vital information about the war she's gathered for you, and it is kind of annoying to be forced to leave Monica out of this stage of things. If she's not back in time, you might not even be able to rely on her power either. The form of magecraft she utilizes is perfect for harming Servants without any form of Magic Resistance, and you just so happen to know that the blackening process undergone by the altered Servants usually damages a Servant's innate resistance to magecraft, usually, at least. You aren't about to proclaim yourself to be an expert on the mechanics of which a Servant operates, even if you have a large amount of information on specific Servants and their capabilities and identities. You've never really had the chance to properly research a Servant and the magic that makes up their bodies. You wonder just how Truth might be able to effect Servants for a moment
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"Ah good. You're back from your trip, and just in time too." Rin is sitting on the table opposite to Bazett. Both of them don't have their Servants present. "If you're wondering about Archer, I'm having him keep watch." She pauses awkwardly, and Bazett looks a little bit embarrassed as she does. "Of course, Lancer decided he was going to help, but I think he's just using it as an opportunity to try to irritate my Servant by trying to find his sniping spots and hiding locations. Not that I really care, if Lancer can find where Archer is hiding, then so can an enemy Servant. It means it wasn't a good enough location in the first place." Well, at least Lancer sounds like he's having fun. Rin doesn't really seem to care too much about Archer basically just being bullied by Lancer at this point. You kind of feel bad for Archer, but Lancer does sort of have a point when it comes to getting in Archer's way. After all, in many ways, the Archer class is a lot like the Assassin class, only with the potential to be far more effective. You've only really got one shot against an opponent who is physically superior to you in practically every way, so you better make it count before they close the distance. Though there are... certain exceptions to the rule. EMIYA himself is a rare Archer with the ability to go toe-to-toe with melee oriented Servants in close quarters. Even if winning is unlikely for him against somebody like Lancer or Saber in a battle on their own terms, the very fact that victory in that situation is a possibility for him at all speaks volumes of just how talented he is. "Oh right, and the homunculus left here decided that she was going to start patrolling the perimeter of the property. I tried to tell her it wasn't needed, but but of course she didn't want to listen to me." Rin sounds more than a little frustrated at what you can only imagine was her just being completely ignored in her efforts to communicate with a stubborn homunculus.
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Everyone slowly begins to take their seats around the dining table, Caster sits down next to you with superhuman agility that you thought her incapable of. Though you suppose that Caster is still a Servant. She might be slow compared to other Servants, but in most scenarios, she's far faster than a human could ever hope to be just by default. Lines do begin to blur however if magecraft is involved. With significantly less speed, but still as much enthusiasm, Sakura takes the open space next to you, while everyone else just sits around the table at random. It's a huge table, and there's more than enough space for everyone. It's also round, just because you liked the idea of being able to tease Saber about her identity. You sweep your gaze across the table at everyone, they are all locked on to you. Looks like they are waiting for you to start things off.

>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
>"Does anybody have anything they want to share before we get started? Potential plans or information that might help us make a plan?"
>"OK, here's the plan...
>>Basic Teleport Strike plan. (Everyone capable of fighting is teleported into the Temple.)
>>Write-in plan.
>Write-in...
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>>4483093
Place a hand on casters thigh then sakuras then
>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin,
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>>4483093
>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
I have mixed feelings on this. On the one hand teleporting Shuten here would certainly be interesting. But on the other its a possible bad end
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>>4483097
Shinji is referring to Monica here. Not Shuten.
Monica is off doing her own thing again.
Though if you want to teleport Shuten too, you can.
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>>4483093
>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
After everyone is together tell them all possible enemy Servants and their abilities.
Mention potential intervention from Gil.
Ask for input from presented Servants, Bazzet and Monica.
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>>4483093
>Write-in
>"Before we get started, I want to announce that we're going to get married" you said while placing your hand to caster's
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>>4483093
>>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
>>4483110
Coomforce please.
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>>4483110
>*sakura's

>>4483093
>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
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>>4483106
+1
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>>4483110
>*Illya's
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>>4483093
>"Before we get started, I think we ought to get everyone together. Caster, I'm going to need you to scry somebody for me in order to teleport them back here. Rin, Bazett, would you mind getting your Servants, please?"
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You know how Lancer can up his NP rank using Runes enough that he's able to bypass God Hand? We should probably make him do that before we teleport in
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>>4483106
Supporting
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>>4483106
Support.
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>>4483110
Support.
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>>4483095
Support
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>>4483093
This >>4483106
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>>4483106
Support. Also just how powerful is Manaka if she is the Master we are facing? I listened to Fate Prototype Fragments and she is as powerful as a servant maybe even more so since she has connections to the root. Some notable instances of her was when she was able to stop Brynhildr's spear with a finger and make Ozymandias and Paracelsus shit their pants proclaiming her as some kind of dark god. She maybe even more powerful than Dark Sakura if that is true.
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>>4483270
She's the Beast of Revelations which puts her far beyond servant level, you'd need some absolute bullshit to kill her off if she's at full power
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>>4483270
We won't have to worry if we wife her.
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>>4483093
>>4483106
support
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>>4483106
support
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>>4483270
>She maybe even more powerful than Dark Sakura if that is true.
Dark Sakura isn't that powerful compared to some other people, honestly.
She only managed to defeat Gilgamesh because he got overconfident (as always), but against people like Arcueid or Aoko, she would be completely screwed.
She also has no hope of defeating or controlling any of the Beasts, for that matter.

>>4483281
Manaka isn't the Beast of Revelations.
In Prototype, the Beast of Revelations is completely subservient to her, however. It's surprising that everyone seems to think that Manaka is involved in this somehow.
Whatever could've given you that idea?
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>>4483756
Damn, guess i got my info mixed up since Nero is is supposed to be one part of Beast VI and the Beast of Revelations is the other
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>>4483250
Are You supporting your own post?
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>>4483756
>however. It's surprising that everyone seems to think that Manaka is involved in this somehow.
Whatever could've given you that idea?
M-manaka bros what do we do?
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>>4483802
We combine our coomer powers to will her into existence.
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>>4483802
Unless we're secretly Arthur, we weren't getting Manaka anyways.
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>>4483756
>It's surprising that everyone seems to think that Manaka is involved in this somehow. Whatever could've given you that idea?
Female in the grail
Summons 6 servants from the past grail war
Could be not Manama but the past servants seems really specific.
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>>4483808
She already has an "Arthur" although Alter Artoria is a woman. Romancing Manaka is so out of character for where our character is at right now.
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>>4483866
I don't really care for Manaka, just pointing out that she only wants blonde kings.
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>>4483756
>She also has no hope of defeating or controlling any of the Beasts, for that matter.
I suppose that's correct, but it's worth pointing out that she can be body-hijacked by Kama-Mara (Beast 3-L?)
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Another single update day it looks like. Sorry guys.
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>>4484136
Damn it I'd pay you hundreds to forget that
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>>4484136
It's ok Sacchin
Shinji is only gaining experience to make your first time even more special.
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>>4484136
Its ok man. Sometimes life just gets in the way
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You look at your allies as they eagerly await you starting the meeting and you tap on your fingers on the table quietly as you begin to address them. "Before we get started, I think we ought to actually have everyone in the same room in order to discuss our next move. That means I'm going to need Rin and Bazett to go make sure that Lancer isn't trying to steal Archer's lunch money or something." You smirk as you think about how Lancer and Archer, two Servants destined to pretty much hate each other, are being forced to play nice due to the state of the war.

"Hey!" Rin cries out in a vain attempt to defend Archer. Unfortunately for Rin however, your assessment of the situation is practically spot on. Cu Chulainn has a personal skill that practically allows him to bully Archers with ease. In fact, he's so well equipped for fighting against Archers, he can even delay Gilgamesh, easily the strong of all Archers, for actual hours! Of course, that fight would've been over in an instant if Gilgamesh opened with either Ea or Enkidu, but the fact that Lancer was capable of such a thing means that outside of trying to overwhelm him within his Reality Marble, Archer basically has no hope of defeating Lancer. Of course, getting Lancer inside of Reality Marble would also require him to recite the long aria without Lancer deciding to just use the throw or thrust of Gae Bolg to put an end to the battle immediately.

"What can I say Rin? I'd suggest you bring it up with Lancer himself if you want him to stop trying to antagonize Archer. Besides, I think it's all just the two of them trying to one-up each other anyway, so there's no real harm in letting them do as they wish, at least that's what I think." Really, the best you can hope for the relationship between Archer and Lancer is a somewhat friendly rivalry where the two of them won't try to murder each other the moment their Master's turn their backs to them.

Bazett coughs. "Regardless, I think I ought to instruct Lancer to conduct himself in a more professional manner. While it's all well and good that he is testing Archer's skill at defending our base of operations, I think he might've gotten a little bit too carried away with himself." Yeah, that would probably be for the best, rivalry aside. Lancer spending his time trying to one-up the Archer does however have the highly beneficial side-effect of having two powerful Servants practically always patrolling the grounds of your mansion whenever the two of them are there together. It's highly probable that Lancer just considers tracking down Archer to be a fun side-activity while he keeps watch for any intruders. Though in regards to eyesight, Archer has Lancer beaten as one might expect of the class container designed for long-ranged combat.
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Rin frowns. "If Archer is the one behind antagonizing your Servant to act this way, I'll be sure to tell him to stop too." Rin sighs. This obviously wasn't how she expected the Grail War would end up going for her, fighting alongside so many other Masters including an Enforcer from the Clock Tower. Of course, the grail war never ends up how Rin might've expected it to go, but not usually on the very first days of the war. Of course, now it might actually be safe to tell Rin about why Kirei Kotomine cannot be at all trusted. But you just know that the moment you tell Rin that Kirei was responsible for sinking the very dagger he gave her as a gift into her father's back that Rin will practically go berserk. Right now, odd as it might seem, Kirei isn't even close to a priority right now. Gilgamesh is a strong second place, but you can't really plan for a serious Gilgamesh, only attempt to minimize damage, with your faction the way it is, Gilgamesh likely won't consider playing about to be a viable strategy like he normally does. A peaceful solution with Gilgamesh is also extremely unlikely too. You can really only hope to knock him off guard by having Saber challenge him to a one on one duel in order to secure the victory with Avalon.

The two women leave the room without any more words exchanged between you. They shouldn't be too long in retrieving their Servants, and they probably could've just mentally commanded them to come along. God only knows what they are up to. You're too busy to want to follow them or find out just what it is the two of them are planning though. You hope neither of them get lost in your home. It's really quite large and Rin and Bazett shouldn't be all too familiar with the layout just yet. If they get lost, then you'll just have to have Caster teleport them to you.

Speaking of Caster. 'I'm going to need you to do some scrying for me, Caster. I need to find my friend and bodyguard who is likely still out investigating for me.' You really ought to find out just what Monica's continuing investigations have managed to find out before plotting to deal with the temple. After all, she may have just found a cooperative Master who would be willing to assist you in your attack.

'Of course, Master. I'll just need her real name and I should be able to get a clear image of her. It can't be an alias though. Medea bluntly states within your mind. You can tell that your allies are getting a little confused by how silent you're being. Rider and Saber at least seem to understand what's going on though.
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'Her name? It's Monica Eisenmann. Is that really all you need to know in order to find her? It sounds pretty ridiculous that all Medea needs to seek somebody out is their name. Magi from the Age of Gods really are terrifyingly powerful. At least it seemed like Touko needed to have more information for her own scrying spell, even if she ended up knowing enough about her target already that all she needed was the name in order to get a clear enough mental image of her target. But if all Medea needs is the name itself, that's far more powerful. The very fact that Touko actually has her own scrying spell at all just goes to show how powerful she is though. Even the limitations of modern magecraft can hardly hold her back from doing whatever it is that she wants. Of course, you don't actually really even know what motivates Touko. It's not really like she's making any major plays for the Root, and if she wanted to, she definitely would be able to eventually reach the ultimate goal of all magi.

'With this particular method of scrying, that is correct. Though the range on something like trying to seek somebody out by name alone is of course limited. But it usually has great effect when I need to find somebody in an area I know them to reside in. I can perform a slightly different scrying ritual if I have a sample of their blood or the blood of one of their relatives that has an unlimited range, but I don't suppose you have that on hand, did you?' Your silence in response to Medea's question is all the answer that she needs in order to decide that you obviously don't.

'Very well then, I'll begin without any further delay, Master.' A jagged mirror appears in the air in front of Caster, conjured entirely by her power, and the reflective surface of the mirror quickly begins to shift and change away from Caster's reflection and it shifts into the familiar appearance of Monica. But something is very wrong.
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Monica has a nasty cut running across her face that seems to have only just missed taking out one of her eyes, she's panting in exertion, and there's sparks of electricity crackling around her as she leans against a brick wall, struggling to stand. She's under attack! You need to do something before it's too late! You already find yourself preparing for a battle against an enemy even from behind the reflective glass of the mirror Caster has summoned. Caster doesn't seem to have any real reaction to the injuries that have been dealt to the woman, not that you really expected her to care at all about a woman she's never met before. Your breath catches when you notices a large red stain on the front of her white shirt, obviously where she's been pierced with some sort of sword or spear. Whoever she's up against has obviously defeated her.

>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
>Have Medea teleport only yourself and Caster. You don't need to reveal all your cards right now, and if the situation is too dangerous she can always get you away in time.
>Have Medea teleport everyone except Sakura and Illya to Monica. Whoever is attacking her is about to get a nasty surprise. You're going to obliterate them.
>Have Medea keep scrying but look for the cause of Monica's wounds, observe the situation in order to make sure that you can respond in the best way. Monica will just have to hold on a tiny bit longer.
>Write-in...
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>>4484553
Teleport her and focus on healing.
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>>4484553
>>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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Let's not waste our mana just before a majore battle.
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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Does Betty have a keyhole?
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>>4484574
Wrong eldritch loli.
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>>4484574
Yes, in her cunny.
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.

Write In:
“Could you tell what class servant it was?”

Heres the thing. The enemy archer shoots fire so somebody like Tomoe makes sense, and we already have EMIYA and Gilgamesh, so unless theres a 4th Archer summoned somebody like like Tesla can be crossed off the list. Now we have 2 casters, Betty (she likely isn’t a caster but safe to include her here), and Medea. Now Medea was out on her own so the possibility of Edison being summoned doesn’t seem impossible (that is unless Betty really is a Caster which again she likely isn’t). Finally theres Frankenstein which I think we can also cross off since Berserker is to my knowledge Ibaraki Doji.

TLDR;
Going off of the servants that use electricity to my knowledge, and what classes have and have not been summoned, It might be Edison.
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>>4484607
Monica uses electricity.
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>>4484607
>Monica currently dying
>“Could you tell what class servant it was?”
Maybe you could fucking wait until she regain herself?
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>>4484619
Believe he meant Caster since she is the one looking at the scene.
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>>4484553
>>Have Medea teleport only yourself and Caster. You don't need to reveal all your cards right now, and if the situation is too dangerous she can always get you away in time.

she will probably see the Teleport thing like we did, and doge out of the way. Wouldn't want her to lose a leg like we did during a fight
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>>4484625
Why would You choose to teleport Caster in front of a likely melee specialized servant?
That seems like a bad idea.
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>>4484623
Yeah I meant Caster. Possibly should have clarified.

>>4484608
Welp guess I’m just retarded then
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>>4484629
eh
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>>4484553
>>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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When we get this handled we need Caster to create a spell so we can talk telepathically with Monica or the whole team. Would help so much with communicating.
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>>4484629
To show off our abilites and make the enemy become our allies if it was a cute girl.
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why dont we just buy little ear pieces for everyone we are one of the richest men on the planet after all
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>>4484553
>>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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>>4484674
Monica can't use tech.
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>>4484677
oh true well we should get like a mystic code or something then idk
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
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>>4484553
>No. There's no need to get into a battle. Have Medea teleport her to you instead. Then you can focus on immediately healing Monica.
Rescue the bodyguard wife!
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"Caster. Teleport her to us immediately. I want her out of danger as quickly as possible." You don't want the woman to remain in danger any longer than she has to. Whatever or whoever she's up against as clearly got her outmatched, and you don't enjoy seeing her in pain like this at all. In fact, you don't like seeing anybody you consider dear to you in pain, and you'll do whatever it takes to ensure that they don't have to go through such things as often as they otherwise would have to.

Caster nods quickly, before quietly speaking the words required of her to bring your friend to your dining room. It's quite odd that you get to see her reaction to realizing she's being teleported just moments before she disappears from sight and reappears in front of you. Thankfully, it seems that she wasn't able to respond to Medea's attempted teleport like you were, though you think that Medea may have ended up using a different method of teleportation for getting Monica out of there.

Monica collapses backwards onto the floor in a heap as she no longer has the support she was using to keep herself standing, and as she attempts to crawl to her feet, she looks around with an intense emotion in her eyes. She's clearly still prepared for a fight, but her expression softens upon locking eyes with you.

Of course, you don't allow her to attempt crawl for long, as you were already moving towards her to help her the moment she appeared before your eyes. You sling one of her arms around your shoulder and hoist her to her feet in the span of about ten seconds since she arrived. You talk quietly as you can hear the labored breathing of the older woman. "How bad are you hurt, Monica?" Your voice is full of concern as you go to assess the damage, but Monica grabs your hand as you're about to inspect her wound.

"Don't... touch it. The... blade was poisoned. If you touch the wound, the poison will get you too..." She tries to warn you away from inspecting her wound. "He... missed my vital organs... on purpose, I think. But the poison has... spread too much. I'm pretty much done for." You shake your head as she tries to warn you off of inspecting the damage done, and you lift up her shirt enough to see the large piercing wound left from her having been run through with a blade to her abdomen, she's too weak to stop you from doing so. It's a wonder that she's even still capable of moving or talking as she is with a wound that severe. Around the edges of the wound, you can see the veins underneath her skin that have turned black and corroded away from the magical poison or curse that this mysterious enemy has inflicted Monica with. "S-stop." She once again tries to ward you away from touching the obviously magical wound, the failed attempt causing her to tumble to the ground again and for you to lay the woman on the floor. You're going to need to magically operate on her immediately, that much is clear.
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"No. I'm not going to let you die, Monica." You tell her sternly. You aren't just going to let her have some sort of heroic sacrifice when it's completely unnecessary to do so. If she's unaware of just how skilled you've become as a magus, that's fine. But she's not only disregarding that, but she's also disregarding the fact that you've got Caster right here! Even if you weren't capable of healing her wound, which you are already in the process of beginning to do so, there's simply no way that Caster wouldn't have also been able to do so.

The woman locks eyes with you again, and reaches up with a hand to caress your face before talking, the relaxed place she's found herself in finally allowing her to become delirious from the incredible pain coursing through her body, she probably thinks that she's hallucinating right now. "You always did care so much about other people..." Damn it woman! Stop triggering your own death flags, you need to be healed! As you begin to reverse the damage to her abdomen, you take a glance over to the gash on her face. Thankfully, that wound doesn't appear to have been with the same poisoned blade, otherwise she would've likely already succumbed to the poison.

The blackened veins begin to return to their former color as you quite literally reverse the damage having ever been done in the first place with your incredible ability. Of course though, that doesn't mean that Monica is going to regain the energy she's already lost from the injuries in the first place. After all, you're only changing the damaged areas and the poison flowing through her veins, if you were to attempt to reverse her entire body rather than just the areas she needs healed, you would end up expending an enormous quantity of magical energy so quickly that you would almost certainly go over your limit and die.
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She slips into unconsciousness just as you finish healing the wound on her abdomen, and you have been so focused on trying to heal your friend that you didn't even notice when Caster began to use her own magecraft in order to heal up the damage on Monica's face. It would've been mostly superficial anyway, but it would've left her with a horrible scar had it been allowed to heal naturally. You'll need to thank Caster later for being so instrumental in saving Monica's life. Even if you did the heavy lifting when it came to actually healing Monica's wound, Caster was the only reason you were able to save her in the first place. It's a horrible thought that had you not taken the decision to gather everyone before your meeting, Monica would've ended up succumbing to the poison even had she successfully managed to flee from her opponent. Of course, now that you're certain that Monica isn't going to die, you want to know just how could've done this to her. However it was is going to pay. Your tunnel vision on Monica's injuries finally clearing up, your attention is drawn to a piece of paper clutched in her left hand, it seems to be some sort of poster or notification that she's torn from a wall.

Your interest piqued, you maneuver the piece of paper out of her hands and begin reading through it. The front half of the piece of paper is worthless to you, just a bunch of information on a local meet-up for some athletics club, but the real message Monica wanted to get across to somebody is written on the back of the piece of paper in her own blood...

"Sixth." You read the message aloud for everyone to hear, but nobody seems to have any more clue than you do on the short message. You don't really know what she could have meant by a single word. It's really very vague. You'll just have to think about it or hope something comes to you. Of course, you can also just wait for Monica to wake up too. It should be a few hours till she's recovered enough that waking her up is a possibility at all, but you can find out exactly what she meant by her message when she's on her feet again, or even if she's just conscious.
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The rest of the room has been thankfully quiet as they looked upon you and Caster healing the heavily injured woman, but it seems that they've realized that the danger to Monica's life has passed now. "Is she going to be OK, Onii-chan?" Sakura calls out to you, snapping you fully out of your focus on Monica. The two women got along alright, all things considered. Sakura has always been grateful to Monica for the role she played in helping get Zouken out of her life, and is obviously worried for the older woman.

>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
>Ask Rider to take Monica up to her bedroom. She's far stronger than you are, and will be able to effortlessly carry the unconscious woman up the flights of stairs.
>Ask Caster to teleport Monica to her bedroom. It'll be far quicker this way and Monica will be disturbed the least
>Actually... an infusion of your magical energy ought to be enough to allow Monica to awaken now. But is kissing her really a good idea in front of all your allies?
>Write-in...
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>>4485818
>Actually... an infusion of your magical energy ought to be enough to allow Monica to awaken now. But is kissing her really a good idea in front of all your allies?
No need to think about shame or what not, we got a raid to do.
Some intimate deep kisses wouldn't hurt anyone.
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>>4485818
>>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
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>>4485821
It is not "intimate" when You do it in front of dozen people.
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>>4485818
Take her up to her bedroom and give her some mana.
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>>4485830
Being intimate is about how aggresive the kisses are. It doesn't have anything to do with people watching and what not.
Also, she could be holding a vital information that could affect the raid. Better to know now than later.
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>>4485818
How much draining would the kiss be? cause we are likely going to need some juice for the assault and possibly for our date with demon as well. Then again, her intel may be invaluable for either...
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>>4485832
Support
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>>4485818
>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
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>>4485818
Kissu time.
What does Sixth mean?
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>>4485818
>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
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>>4485818
>>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
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>>4485854
Maybe sixth seal? Or someone with title or rank?
One reason to wake her up right away I guess
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>>4485818
>>Take Monica up to her bedroom again. Make sure you don't slip and fall on her bed this time though. It was awkward enough the first time.
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>>4485865
It could be rank. Since Qm seems to have made a lot of references to Fate Prototype because of Manakafags. It could be the sixth highest master degree Powers. But nobody was officially revealed in that rank in that Master position from Fate Prototype. In Fate Fragments however there was a Master ranked in Powers and summoned Hassan of Serenity as his servant who specialized in poisons and has a poisoned body. Powers dies as soon as he summoned Assassin though so that might be unlikely too. Unless there were timeline shenanigans since this grail war is extremely irregular.
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>>4485865
Yeah, but I guess the samefag will win this one and we'll never know what monica tried to tell us or when we know, it will already be too late.
At first I thought the samefag just don't want to us to think with our dick, but these just proved that the samefag is trying so very hard to make us so that we're untouched by girls.
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>>4485873
We kissed Medea in private, why can't we do the same for Monica? Knowing more about who potential rival Master and Servants are is important.
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>>4485874
Then support this
>>4485832
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>>4485832
Support
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>>4485876
I'll do that too then
Supporting>>4485832
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>>4485818
>>4485832
Support.
Whoever did this is not getting the BMC.
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Also is it around 6 and shuten appointment was around 8? With Monica caressing our face I see us giving her mana could lead to some nice one on one time.
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>>4485854
Sixth Holy Grail War
Beast-VI, the Sixth Beast
Out of a number of potential things, the Sixth one carries some special notice
Sixth-ranked Dead Apostle Ancestor
Thats all Igot
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>>4485832
Support. We don't need to go out of our way to cuck Sakura.
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>>4485832
+1
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>>4485832
Support. Tell sakura what we are going to do (minus the kissing)
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>>4485832
Support.
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>>4485889
>Sixth-ranked Dead Apostle Ancestor
>Rizo-Waal Strout
>Black Knight Strout. Possesses the magical sword Neardark. One of the top 3.
>Because of his curse of time, he is thought to be invincible. One of Altrouge's guards.
That would make some sense.
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>>4485832
Support. Time to dick her down and stop being a fucking virgin.
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>>4485953
Why would Monica know who the sixth-ranked DAA is that common knowledge?
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>>4485977
the DAA are common knowledge i'm pretty sure
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>>4485818
Changing from >>4485827
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>>4486095
And my ID changed again.
gM8g2FgV is me I swear.
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>>4486098
Use the snipping tool
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>>4486119
Like this?
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>>4486127
Yes comrade
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Kissu
>>4485821
>>4485854

>Up to bed
>>4485843
>>4485857
>>4485858
>>4485868

>Private kissu
>>4485832
>>4485839
>>4485876
>>4485877
>>4485879
>>4485881
>>4485905
>>4485906
>>4485925
>>4485926
>>4485967
>>4486095

Oho.
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>>4487048
Hey WhatIsAQM I've got a question.
Would Monica died if we didn't scry for her?
You don't have to answer. I am just trying to figure out what kind of QM You are.
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>>4487051
That's a secret, anon.
But something I doubt too many of you would've been happy with would've happened.
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>>4487053
Thank You for answering.
>But something I doubt too many of you would've been happy with would've happened.
I am going to guess that she would be turned into dead apostle by Rizo-Waal Strout.
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Could our Truth Healing undo the damage caused by Mystic Eyes of Death Perception?
We ought to be able to undo the injury Shiki has from Roa's shittier eyes for him though, right?
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>>4487063
Considering we basically erase the damage from having ocured in the first place? Yeah, it probably should work.
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[b]testing[/b], [i][b]ignore this[/b][/i]
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>>4487111
You have no power here!
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>>4487111
That you, OP?

>>4487068
If we ever actually get to it, the start of Tsukihime will be hilarious, in that case.
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>>4487118
nope, just trying to figure out how the text formatting is supposed to work
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>>4487118
It's kind of funny, Shinji is the key to Shiki achieving the TRUE ending.
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>>4487141
what's TRUE ending for Tsukihime? Roa dies and everyone lives?
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>>4487618
Shinji pulls a Persona 3 and sacrifices himself in order to make certain the big bad never returns.
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Dead thread
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"Everyone, I'm going to take Monica up to her room, alright? She needs to rest." You don't allow anyone to raise any argument as you scoop the woman up into your typical princess carry and leave the room quickly. Is this just what your life is coming to? Carrying maidens in distress or otherwise incapacitation? Honestly, even you're starting to think that this sort of stuff has started happening to you way too often. You've never been that romantically inclined, not really. Of course, you aren't blind to it, but you've always had more important things on your mind than allowing yourself to fall in love. Of course, Monica isn't really the sort of person you've ever really truly considered romantically anyway. While there's no denying that she's an attractive woman in her own right, the physical age difference between the two of you would just make things... strange. The woman is in her thirties, and you're just about eighteen. You try to keep that in mind as you carry Monica upstairs to her room.

The woman doesn't stir much in your arms as you carry her up the stairs, the physical exhaustion dealt by the surging adrenaline that quite literally kept her alive has now come crashing down on her. Coupled with the magical exhaustion of the overuse of her magic circuits, and she would normally be able to sleep for an entire day!

Of course, you have no intention of allowing Monica to sleep for that long. You're going to wake her up using... well, a tried and true method of waking up sleeping maidens. Especially ones that were poisoned. Yes, a kiss ought to be a good enough method for transferring your magical energy to Monica, with the magical energy of your body there should be more than is necessary for somebody like Monica in a single kiss. Monica is... an interesting case, when it comes to her magecraft, she doesn't bring it up by herself, but from what you gather, while she might have a theoretically infinite source of magical energy should she be conscious and able to transform the electrical energy of her surroundings into her own power, she's obviously incapable of using that particular ability when she's not actually awake. If she was truly giving it her all in that battle last night, you would have noticed it through the lights in your house flickering as she drew enormous amounts of energy from the cities electrical grid... or you would have, but you know better than to rely on the grid. It cost a fair amount, but your home is actually run mostly off of a large generator you keep in the basement. Your own wealth and preparations for the war almost came back to bite you! Had you not chosen that specific moment to look for Monica, the truth is that the woman probably wouldn't even be alive right now!
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It's a chilling thought, and not one you wish to dwell on. You try to clear your head as you push your way into Monica's room with a shoulder. You deftly avoid the small assortment of unopened metal cans of various drinks littered across the floor. Some of the drinks are alcoholic, and some non-alcoholic. There doesn't really seem to be a distinction between the two.

After you've finished navigating your way through the impromptu assault course, you finally lay Monica out on her bed, her unconscious body sinks lightly into the softness of the quilt. You then replace the gentle smile on your face with one of steely determination for a moment. You're just doing this for the sake of giving her enough magical energy to recover from her injuries. What you're about to do isn't wrong. You're doing it for a purpose. It's just like... mouth-to-mouth resuscitation! Right! You rationalize things in your head. Of course, while you don't doubt that your allies would very easily get the wrong idea if they saw you kissing this woman, it's really all their fault for being so juvenile. They're supposed to be magi, or at least aware enough of the mechanics of magic that they should understand that something like a kiss is simply an efficient method of transferring magical energy between two beings. It's hardly like you're going to need to conduct a more... traditional magical energy transfer ritual any time soon, either.

For some reason, you feel like you're hesitating more about the idea of kissing Monica than you were about kissing Caster. It has nothing to do with the appearance of the two women either. Both of them are highly attractive women, but... well, it really did help that Caster not only was awake to have the kiss, but she was also the one who suggested it in the first place! You suppose you've really got no choice though. You may as well bite the proverbial bullet and get this over with.

You slowly bring your face close to Monica's own. Her soft breaths aren't labored anymore, and the relief that brings you is immense in itself. For a moment, you almost back out of kissing Monica, but you aren't a coward. This is the fastest and quickest way to find out just what her message to you was meant to be. For all you know, she hadn't even finished writing her note, so 'Sixth' could mean just about anything. Seeing as there have been two sets of summoned Servants, it could even mean 'Sixth Grail War', because officially, it shouldn't actually be possible to summon so many servants in a single war. Though there are some... potential exceptions to that usual rule. You can't tell if this is one of these exceptions, or if somebody really has done something like create an additional Holy Grail. Monica would be the one to know, so without further ado, you bring your lips to hers and kiss her.
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While it's a little awkward to actually deeply kiss somebody unconscious, you only have to spend a few seconds attempting to do so before you find success. But almost the very moment you find that success, Monica's eyes snap open, and you find yourself staring down into the confused eyes of your bodyguard.

>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
>Break off from the kiss and flirt with Monica.
>Break off from the kiss, reinforce your body, and leap through a window.
>Write-in...
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488303
No.
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Monica was just on the death door.
I don't think she is in the mood for romance.
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>>4488309
Continue kissing Monica
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>>4488313
Virgin
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>>4488318
Nice projection coomer.
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss, reinforce your body, and leap through a window.
This is the only logical answer.
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>"Oh fuck I've been missing updates! Better check and see what fucked shit is going on no-"
>Shinji is kissing the shit outta an unconscious Monica.
God. Fucking damn it!
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>>4488331
That's what happens when coomers secure majority.
Join us! Together we can repel them.
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.

Assert dominance
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.

Commit dammit. we didn't get isekaied to be a bitch.
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
This is our most retarded move yet and we have died several times. Whelp, gotta go all in now
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>>4488309
>>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
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>>4488307
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
If homestuck could do it so can we.
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
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>>4488332
>repel coomers
>adamantly refused to help illya and choose to let shirou do all the explaining even though we're mostly at fault for deceiving illya
>refused to have immediate contract with medea
>refused to immediately know what information Monica were holding
Yeah fuck you faggot, you're not repelling coomers, you're just trying to sabotage this run because we're not playing as shirou.
Stop being so obtuse.
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>>4488405
I have voted to run after Illya and princess carry her back to the Shirou's house.
I have voted to propose contract to Medea in the first place.
I have voted to take Monica to the bedroom and transfer mana to her. Right in this fucking thread you blind troglodyte.
Fuck off retard. I don't give a fuck about Shirou. I voted to ditch Kerry in the first place.
I bet you are that faggot who was whining about cucking for the last few threads.
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>>4488408
we aren't really cucking anyone either...
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>>4488405
A woman gets stabbed with a cursed sword through her chest. Loses consciousness while believing she is gonna die. Wakes up to us stuffing our tongue into her mouth.
Naturally in this situation we should continue kissing her.
Who gives a fuck about her opinion on the situation or information she might possess. We need to get our dick wet. That's what matters for retards like you above everything else.

>>4488418
I never said we did.
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>>4488309
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>everyone presumes that if you aren't a coomer you have to be a shiroufag
surely theres a fallacy for this.
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Shirou is based and we should lose our v card to the any number of woman around us that would gladly take it
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Watching you retards fight is almost as good as the quest itself
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>>4488495
the quest is just a vehicle for the fights
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>>4488309
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488309
>break it off
>”excellent, it worked!”

Cool as a cucumber
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
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>>4488309
>Break out the kiss gently, smile at her and tell her you are happy she is alive.
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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Some people seem to take this quest way too seriously.
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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I just wish we would get to the actual meeting today.
It has been 3 days since we exited our car.
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>>4488692
Just grab some popcorn and consider the autists part of the entertainment.
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>>4488309
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488692
They were also samefagging to no end whenever there's a choice for relationships though.
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>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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Break off
>>4488310
>>4488359
>>4488363
>>4488438
>>4488542
>>4488691
>>4488708
>>4488722
>>4488726

>Break off gently
>>4488661

"Excellent, it worked!"
>>4488560

Continue
>>4488322
>>4488334
>>4488335
>>4488347
>>4488358
>>4488394
>>4488622

Flee.
>>4488328

Hmm.
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>>4488309
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
As much as I wanna go all in on this, she just got through a fight for her life. Give her space, give her time.
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>>4488755
I am sorry but this >>4488322 is not a vote.
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>>4488766
This one is though. >>4488315
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>>4488315
>>4488772
Did You forget to change ID?
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>>4488779
No thought I voted but didn't see mine in whatis post so I voted then saw your post so deleted my post.
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>>4488755
Got hammered

>continue kissing Monica
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.

Shit QM. You did it again. I'm getting a very large boner rn
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>>4488309
Continue kissing
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing
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All those 1 post ID appearing at the last minute sure does not look weird at all.
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>>4488780
>>4488783
>>4488785
>>4488788
>gets caught samefagging
>keeps doing it anyway
absolute madlad
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>>4488792
Dude the update was 11 hours ago. Some people do sleep and wake up at normal times.
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>>4488795
Yeah, sure. 5 votes for the same result appear in the span of 10 minutes right after QM starts counting votes.
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>>4488800
OK shitrou Fag
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>>4488801
Eat shit faggot. Not everyone who calls out your samefagging is a shiroufag.
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>>4488792
Listen bro i dont samefag. I showed proof that I was not a samefag.
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>>4488803
My ip hasn't changed.
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>>4488804
What about 3 other 1 ID posts posted in a matter of minutes from your vote?
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>>4488809
Doesn't matter. We won.
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>>4488809
I just woke up bro. I cant control some other dudes vote.
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>>4488812
Thanks to the blatant samefaggotry.
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>>4488809
I just woke up bro. I cant control some other dudes vote
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>>4488809
Can i also point out that im phone posting. So sorry for any double posts
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>>4488790
Of course you would say that since your vote is losing.
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
voting this just to spite that faggot.
Also, I'm this guy>>4485834 my ID just changed.
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>>4488835
They showed up right after a failed samefag attempt.
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>>4488835
I wonder who could be behind this 1 post ID.
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>>4488309
Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488837
I would say it was a successful attempt.
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>>4488309
Continue kissu
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>>4488850
You don't need to make anymore IDs dude.
You already samefaged yourself almost twice the votes you need to win.
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>>4488841
Read the post below it faggot
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>>4488854
You sure?
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>>4488860
Yes. I am positive.
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>>4488309
>Continue kissing Monica. If you show embarrassment or shame, that just makes you look worse.
Don’t be a pussy Shinji
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>inb4 “eisenjungfrau!”
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>everyone ITT
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>>4488942
I'll bonk you first
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>>4488309
Continue the makeout session.
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>>4488309
>>4488309
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4489064
Votings closed
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>>4488309
Continue kissing Monica
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So.
The samefag problem has clearly gotten outta hand.
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>>4489102
no fucking shit, so many one ID votes, its absurd
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>>4489102
>>4489090
>>4489065
All 1 post id.
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>>4489105
So says the 1 id poster
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>>4489109
1 post calls a 27 post a samefag.
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>>4489113
Says the 1 post id
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>>4489114
Actual schizo.
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>>4489106
>>4489102
Seething retards
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>>4489106
>>4489121
The irony of me saying this while being a one post fag has not escaped me but I have been here, even if I haven't been very active due to irl obligations.
>>4484209
>>4488331
The idea that others might be in the same boat I'm in also has crossed my mind, and that might explain why we have one or two of them.
But really. Be honest now. Do you really not even suspect these sudden influxes of 1 post anons all voting for the same thing is blatant samefaggotry?
I say that people should have to at least link back to their prior posts over the course of the thread in order to vote on the current choice. And none of that "make a random post and then vote so you can be a 2 post fag instead of a one post fag" shit. Trust me, I know people have lives outside of interactive fanfiction and many folks would rather not engage outside of reading updates and voting, I understand that, but something needs to be done here.
Even if it doesn't stop the samefaggotry completely we can at least make it harder for them.
I'm not even asking we doing anything super autistic like in Sworn to Valor or something like that, but something needs to be done.
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>>4489202
Sounds like you're just mad that we're having an intimate moment with a girl.
I bet you wouldn't complained if we're playing as shirou.
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i literally don't get what the problem with Shirou is, do you guys hate him or something?
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>>4489216
Yes. Shiroufags need to die. But I have no clue why everyone is talking about Shirou.
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>>4489216
Shirou lives rent free in the coomerbrain.
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>>4489210
I wouldn't be playing this quest if we were playing as Shirou.
And I'd complain about samefags even if they were voting for something that wasn't horribly out of place.

>>4489218
For some reason, whenever anons want to show some restraint and not coom for every girl in the quest, Shirou is somehow invoulved.
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>>4489218
why? Shirou is based

>>4489224
how? He literally only has one girl interested in him and we purposely pushed those 2 together
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>>4489226
Shiroufags want us to be cucked by Shirou they kept pushing him and Ilya.
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>>4489226
Because coomers keep insisting that we're gonna get cucked by Shirou. When we don't even share any romantic interest in Shirou's girl (girls if you want to count the defenseless anus).
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>>4489231
I don't really care about Illya beyond just saving her so that's good with me. We have like, 5 other girls so its not a big loss
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>I don't really care about Illya
Man, where did all the Illyafags go off to?
I mean she isn't my number one choice, but she has some real die hards a few months ago.
Have we forgotten what she bring to the table?
Really though, you have the right of it. Saving her IS way more important than waifuing her, but I'd say that's the case for everyone in the quest.
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>>4489231
I am happy with Illya being saved from her family, not interested in her in a romantic way at all.
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>>4489252
I just like Medea and Sakura better anon
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>>4489242
I guess your right. I think it is not really about the girls I am mostly just mad because they keep trying to unrelated things about Shirou.
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>>4489252
Saving her is kind of the reason I don't like her, she's more of a chore that I want to get over with than a compelling character.
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>>4489259
isn't that like, half our love interests? Sakura, Sacchin, Medea kinda
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>>4489256
>Medea
Fine
>Sakura
Got play the original VN if you wanna waifu Sakura. Give the new romantic options a chance.

>>4489259
>she's more of a chore that I want to get over with than a compelling character.
If you see it like that I'm surprised you don't see every girl in the quest a chore since we're ultimatly trying to "save" all the girls in our care. Hell even Monica, a woman most have regarded as capable of taking care of herself was JUST saved from a fate worse than death.
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>>4489269
Bros I just want Manaka to exist.
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>>4489202
>I'm not even asking we doing anything super autistic like in Sworn to Valor or something like that, but something needs to be done.
I kind of wish we were more like Sworn to Valor and Black Company since mechanical parts of them are pure joy to see and participate. And we already have just as much vote rigging.
Not to diss WhatIs but Forgotten really makes choices feel special because of it.
>>4489252
I feel like Medea being competent overshadows rest of potential love interests.
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>>4489269
>Got play the original VN if you wanna waifu Sakura. Give the new romantic options a chance.
If I can get more than one love interest i'm getting Sakura too

>>4489272
Medea is weirdly competent, she almost one the HGW by hacking the Grail
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>>4489271
>Manaka
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I find the idea of actually waifuing Manaka exceedingly exhausting.

>>4489272
>I kind of wish we were more like Sworn to Valor and Black Company since mechanical parts of them are pure joy to see and participate.
You aren't wrong about those quests mechanics being exciting and fun as fuck, but never get it twisted. This is a Fate Quest, you came to the wrong place if you were looking for in depth combat or mechanics.
It's kinda the reason stomping out samefaggotry is so important. Making choices is literally all this quest has. The storytelling and the voting on making the right choices are all there is to enjoy, and if that aspect of the quest is compromised then what is the point?
>I feel like Medea being competent overshadows rest of potential love interests.
I can see what you mean, but it doesn't make her best girl with just that alone imo.

>>4489276
>If I can get more than one love interest i'm getting Sakura too.
Again, this is a Fate Quest.
The story this quest is based on is all but centered around picking a wife and sticking with them to their logical conclusion.
The idea of having a harem defeats the purpose of that.
That said, a man has two hands for a reason. So maybe just UBW style, main girl/shared side chick situation going on wouldn't be too bad. Poor Sakura would probably be down for it if it meant getting a taste of the Shinjibowl.
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>>4489300
>I've said it before and I'll say it again. I find the idea of actually waifuing Manaka exceedingly exhausting.
It is not about waifuing Manaka but proving that I am not crazy and she exists.
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>>4489300
not like Sakura wasn't okay with it with her, Shirou and Rider
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>>4489300
>but it doesn't make her best girl with just that alone imo
who are you pining for anon
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>>4489263
>>4489269
Well you see, the main difference is that saving Sakura was pretty fun by itself. Having to lead a double life of sorts, having to think trhough every step, it was thrilling and entertaining to watch.
Medea is too useful to not interact with and the most important thing she adds to the team is having someone more competent than Shinji at magic, which is an interesting dynamic.
Sacchin I don't really care for.
So yeah, I guess it's not so much about the characters being compelling, they just have to be worth our time in some way or another.
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>>4489307
As long as it's not Sakura, Rin, or Saber, I'm fine with it. I'd also prefer Shinji not go with Monica or Betty since I've personally already familyzoned them in my head, but I won't be mad if it happens in a way that's not retarded. *cough fucking cough*
That said, I'm of the strong belief that route locking before we get to Tsukihime shit is a huge mistake.
Shinji has been literally dating Sacchin for actual years. It was stated that she was proabably one of the people Shinji, "has the best relationship with" and "interacting with the girl helps bring at least some calm" to his life, but she hasn't been allowed to be a character yet thanks to the circumstances and you fuckers need to cool it until she has a chance to prove herself.
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>>4489320
>Categorizing girls based on usefulness.
Can't say I fucks with that mindset, but I can't hate on it either.
Guess you must be very excited for Oni Wife since she's so damn busted, huh?
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>>4489329
>Can't say I fucks with that mindset, but I can't hate on it either.
Gimme a break dude, I have to work with what I have. You can't tell me all of this characters are actually deep and well written when most of the time they all just kinda suck up to Shinji's bullshit with little care for themselves. Even Rin, the one I like the most for having something resembling a spine just kinda bitches and does very little on her own? Correct me if I'm wrong please because I'm starting to buy into Shinji's reality bending mentality.
About Oni Wife, yes, all of my yes. Not so much for her stats but because the peak female body is like a siren's call to me
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>>4489340
>You can't tell me all of this characters are actually deep and well written when most of the time they all just kinda suck up to Shinji's bullshit with little care for themselves.
I can and I will.
>spoiler
At least that's something we can wholeheartedly agree on.
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>>4489322
well she keeps calling us her boyfriend and we let her so she seems to think we're in a relationship.
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>>4489347
My wife was like that. Probably just as tall.
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>>4489353
The joke about Sacchin obsessing over her "Rich, Fit, Super Loving out of town BF" has already been made, but the fact that WhatIsQm has not found a way to take advantage of such memery yet is slightly disapointing.
Really, I wouldn't even consider myself a Sacchinfag, but someone needs to look out for the poor girl and the consistancy of Shinji's character.
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>>4489385
Have we guaranteed she won't change?
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>>4489340
>they all just kinda suck up to Shinji's bullshit with little care for themselves
tbf half of them half to because they worked directly under us and the other half are abused children that we helped in some major way. Rin can bitch all she wants but she's not stupid or heartless, she owes us an arm and a leg for saving Sakura and she knows we're incredibly powerful and intelligent
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>>4489385
We had all the time in the world to spend with her but we just rolled a d100 and skipped it. I'm not excusing the QM but we kind of did this to ourselves.
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>>4489395
no the fucking problem was that most of you fuckers didn't want any downtime and just wanted to speed directly to the HGW, that's why we left Misaki town early and not even make contact with Shiki or talk to Aoko any longer, that's why we abandoned going with Kiritsugu to try to save Illya, that's why we just skipped Case Files. Like its no wonder we didn't spend any time actually hanging out with Satsuki or anyone else since, you guys kept fucking voting to skip the actual important bits

>>4489385
>My boyfriend is from Canada, you wouldn't know him
I just want Satsuki to be made fun of when we go back to see her again and btfo of everyone who didn't believe we actually existed
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>>4489393
No. In fact, Shinji is still undecided on if he wants her to change or not.

>>4489395
>We had all the time in the world to spend with her but we just rolled a d100 and skipped it.
That's not true at all. We've been horribly busy since the quest started cause preparing for the war and saving Sakura ate up most if not all of our screen time.
When given the choice between progressing the story or spending half a week's worth of updates on fucking about with SoL bullshit, players will choose progression every time. I don't wanna say it's the QMs fault, Sacchin is from a totally different story. She's not relevant to the main plot at the moment and as such has been sidelined. When the alternative is spending real time days going on dates with a character that isn't relevant to the current arc, it's understandable.
The only thing I wish is that she got paid a bit more lip service from time to time and that Anons would cool it on all the waifuing shit until we get further along. We still haven't even met all the girls in THIS arc let alone the next one.
Too many potential options to settle down now, I say.
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Can somebody please tally the votes for me?
If you could be so kind, could you also point out the one posts/two posts that don't link back to prior votes?
I know it's kind of a big ask, but I don't have much free time even now.
Sunday has turned out to be as busy as it usually is for me.
Hopefully I'll be free to start writing/tallying (If I have to) in the next 40 minutes or so.

We'll decide where to go from there when we've got a good look at the state of the vote.
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>>4489440

Break off and explain
>>4488310
>>4488359
>>4488363
>>4488438 1 post
>>4488542
>>4488691 2 post
>>4488708 2 post
>>4488722
>>4488726
>>4488764 2 posts but the other was a vote
>>4489064 2 posts but the other was a vote

Continue
>>4488315
>>4488334 1 post
>>4488335
>>4488347
>>4488358 1 post
>>4488394 2 posts
>>4488622
>>4488783 1 post but linked to previous post
>>4488785 1 post
>>4488786
>>4488788 1 post
>>4488836
>>4488850 2 post
>>4488916
>>4488973 2 post
>>4489090 1 post

I tried. Feel free to point out any fuckups.
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>>4489471
So if >>4489064 and >>4488764 are counted it is a break off win If >>4488783 is also counted it is a tie If none of them count it is a continue win?
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>>4489471
Ah, this one was a 3 post ID >>4489090
Only one post was a vote though.
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After all that, it's an 8-8 tie?
Can anybody else prove they aren't samefagging?

This is truly maddening.
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>>4489496
I'll switch from >>4488328 to
>>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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>>4488347
>>4489496
i literally don't give a shit anymore, i'm switching so we can move on
>Break off from the kiss in a hurry, attempt to explain yourself!
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You fags
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You people are actually autistic, I check in and its another samefag fiesta caused by coomers.
Will this literally happen every time theres a waifu coomer choice?
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>>4489566
no shit
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>>4489571
I follow like 5 quests and this quest has by far the most autistic players.
You people need help and more importantly to jack off BEFORE you vote for anything.
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>>4489579
Not my fault that everyone spergs out when they think they're about to get their dick wet or when they autistically throw other people under the bus so they can manipulate their waifus
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>>4489579
fate stay night is literally a porn game what do you expect
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You quickly break off the kiss before Monica can adjust to the situation and practically launch yourself backwards across the room and away from the woman. It's only thanks to all of your martial training that you don't end up tripping up on one of the cans in the rooms and falling in your general state of disarray. You feel awkward enough about this situation already, and you feel like embarrassing yourself by tripping up on a can or something would only serve to make things look even worse.

The first thing Monica does upon waking up is clutching her forehead in pain, seemingly choosing to... disregard the unorthodox manner in which she just woke up, did... did she not realize what was happening? If that's the case, then you might just be able to get away with things without even needing to explain yourself! Yes, that would be for the best, you don't really want to explain to Monica that you felt like waking her up immediately was crucial enough to have warranted forcibly shoving your tongue into her mouth in order to exchange magical energy. Of course, standard magi would probably think nothing of the massive disregard for consent when it comes to achieving a goal, but Monica has proven herself time and time again to not be anything at all like a typical magus. You can really only hope that she won't end up taking offense. "My head is killing me." That's all she says at first, as she gets up off her bed, ignoring you to walk up to one of the windows before looking at the shining moon for a moment. "But I suppose considering I can still feel anything at all, I should consider it a blessing, huh?"

"Monica... I want you to understand why I just di-" You begin to try to explain that what you did was entirely for the purpose of giving her enough magical energy to get her up and moving again. Of course, it seemed to have worked perhaps a little bit too well. Almost immediately, actually. You were expecting it to take a few minutes at least, giving you more than enough time to not be caught in such a compromising position, but it seems that the universe had different plans in store for you. Had she taken just twenty seconds longer to awaken, then you would've been safely observing her sleep instead of being caught forcing your tongue down her throat. Well, at least none of your allies were here to see you kissing the woman without her consent, so that's a plus, you suppose.
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"I don't need to hear it, Shinji-kun. I'm not an idiot. I know what you were thinking and I don't blame you for doing it. After all..." Monica turns away from you. "...it was a necessary decision, right?" She tries to give you a reassuring smile. Which you return with a somewhat troubled smile of your own. Something tells you that Monica might be trying to hide her true thoughts on just how she woke up considering that there are bigger things to deal with right now. Hopefully she's not too mad. "I'm really just glad that I'm alive right now. I honestly wasn't expecting to survive that fight, in fact, I'm still not entirely sure I'm not hallucinating as I lie bleeding out on the floor in some back alley somewhere." She frowns as she says that. "I'd just about accepted that I wasn't making it out of that fight alive."

"If you don't want me to explain myself, do you mind if I ask who it is you fought? You make it sound like you ended up fighting against an enemy Servant." You're kind of glad that Monica doesn't want an explanation, even if you feel like you could probably smooth things over better if she actually gave you the opportunity to justify your actions. But you suppose getting caught up on something like a kiss isn't really all that important right now, especially when Monica clearly has vital information to give you.

"Ha! A Servant, I probably would've been able to at least manage to distract long enough to make my escape from a Servant. No, I was up against somebody far more dangerous and skilled at killing humans than Servants are." Monica's voice is as grim as her face as she recalls what must've been a complete loss. "I was up against a Dead Apostle." You remain silent and wait for Monica to continue. You already have an inkling of just where she's going with this. After all, after what happened when she battled that vampire all those years ago, there's no way a simple Dead Apostle would ever have gotten the better of her. "A Dead Apostle Ancestor." There it is. The words you were dreading. Could Altrouge have decided to come for you early? This is bad, you definitely don't have the resources to deal with Altrouge... or more specifically, that damn dog she keeps as her pet. While your Servants could probably find a way to bring the Dead Apostle Girl down for good, Primate Murder would cleave through your forces like a hot knife cleaves through butter. The Beast would be unstoppable, even to somebody with as many Servants on his side as you.

"Then... Altrouge...?" You slowly speak the name of the girl, with a not insignificant amount of trepidation. It's hardly like merely uttering her name is going to make her appear, but you're still wary of simply saying the name in case it allows her to manifest before you like some evil spirit. Of course, you know such things are superstitious, even for this world of magic, but you can never be too sure when you're dealing with people as powerful as Altrouge is.
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You people pozzed this quest
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"Altrouge? No. The Dead Apostle I fought with tonight was the Sixth of the Dead Apostle Ancestors." Monica's voice is still grim as she finally reveals the identity of the man responsible for almost slaying her. So, it was Altrouge's work after all then? She's just not felt it necessary to actually show up herself. Though the meaning of her message is now made abundantly clear to you.

"Rizo-Waal Strout?" You've heard of him, and you're of course aware of his allegiance with Altrouge, but to think that the Sixth Dead Apostle Ancestor would show up in Fuyuki for the Grail War. This war is becoming an even greater disaster than it already is! "Do you... Do you know what he wants? Do you think he's a master?" That's the killer question. If this vampire is going to get himself directly involved in the Grail War, then you're going to have to find a way to destroy him, one way or the other. He's obviously not got any intention of being your ally based upon how he nearly slaughtered one of your closest friends in this world

"I'm unsure on if he's a Master or if he's just taken to interfering with the grail war for some reason. All I know is that he confronted me without warning. Either he spotted me scouting yesterday and sought me out, or he somehow spotted me from a distance and decided he didn't want me around. I didn't even get to see any Servants that he might've been connected to." She sighs. "But don't you think it would be kind of silly for somebody as strong as him to even have a Servant in the first place? Who needs a Servant that is weaker than you yourself are?" Monica raises an excellent point. Somebody like the Sixth Dead Apostle Ancestor should have no actual need for a Servant.

"This is dark news indeed." You heave a sigh a cover your face with your right hand. "Just when I think that this grail war couldn't become even more of a mess, a Dead Apostle Ancestor shows up!" You begin to laugh. "No! Really! This is great!" Your laughter becomes more and more uncontrollable. "Can't I just get a break, huh? No matter how much I plan for, this damn wo-" You are stopped. Interrupted mid-rant by a stinging sensation on your cheek. Did... Monica just... slap you? It doesn't hurt, but the sudden audacity of the swift strike has left you completely speechless.

The woman fixes you with a stern expression. "I want you to understand that that slap was simply to snap you out of your ranting before you could properly begin. It has nothing to do with how I feel about what you did to wake me up." The stern expression never falters, and even you can't tell if the woman is telling you the truth or not, much to your extreme displeasure. "Let's go back and talk with the others, alright?" She changes the subject, and it's an escape you're happy to take.
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"Right. Let's go." You quickly leave Monica's room with the woman following behind you. She's a little lethargic and slow right now, but she's quickly recovering even as she follows you back down to the dining room.

Opening the doors, you see that everyone has made an appearance now, Monica doesn't seem to care too much about the new arrivals to the room as she quickly glances at everyone present. You wish you could read people's minds sometimes, you feel like your life would be so much simpler if you could. Even now, you feel guilty about the idea of having upset Monica with your kiss. The logical part of you knows that it was the right thing to do and it allowed you to gain the information that Monica had managed to find, but the other more compassionate half of you realizes that in a way, what you did was a betrayal of the trust you have with Monica in order to gain a fleeting advantage. You would've ended up finding out the identity of her attacker the moment she woke up anyway, and it couldn't have been more than an hour or two.

After all that rigmarole with Monica, you just feel worse. At least she's awake for the planning stage now. You quickly take your seat once more. It's about time you actually plotted out the specifics of this attack, you think. You're going to have Caster teleport everyone fighting into the temple, but you've not really got anything more specific than that.

>You don't need any sort of in-depth plan. It's not like you need a plan other than to hit them hard and fast.
>Ask one of your allies to share their thoughts on your current plan of having Caster teleport everyone into the temple to surprise your enemy. (Who?)
>Propose a variation to the plan. (What?)
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
>Write-in...
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>>4489677
You don't need any plan. Also I go guess meeting shuten is fucked now?
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>>4489679
We have voted to meet Shuten before assault I believe.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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>>4489677
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
Gotta keep our options open since things have taken a turn with a DAA in the mix now
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>>4489677
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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>>4489679
Oh no you're still going to go and do that. But Shinji has decided it would probably be unwise if he let everyone at the table know that was what he was planning on doing.
It is terribly reckless, after all.
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>>4489694
K
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So I guess since my ID keep changing my post not going to be counted anyway.
So I guess I can't contribute.
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>>4489677
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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>>4489739
Blame the coomer samefags and stop mobile posting you shitter.
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>>4489794
Not my fault that 4chan IP banned my region.
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>>4489739
Bro just link back to your old posts.
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>>4489853
That other anon who did that before still doesn't count as a vote in the previous choice.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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>>4489853
QM literally didn't count the anons who did that. Just accept the fact that samefags have ruined it for phone posters and either lurk or use your home pc.
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>>4489739
I don't enjoy resorting to such methods anon.
But I can't sit idly by and watch foul play without doing a thing.
If you want your vote to be counted you can do any of the following.
1) link back to a previous vote you made
2) explain the logic begind your vote.
3) use a simple tripcode for votes

>>4489866
>QM literally didn't
He did actually.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
Group effort and all that.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.

Let's make sure everyone is aware of what threats we already know to be present.
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I was kind of expecting more votes for such an important vote.
Par for the course really, I suppose.
I guess I'll leave the vote open for a few more hours again.
Don't worry though, I'll be able to get back to my twice a day update schedule soon.
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>>4490008
Well like I said, my post tends to have different ID's and I believe I'm not the only one with that situation.
And you have to understand that while we do want to contribute, we don't really want to do any more extra work (in my case being lazy as fuck) I tend to just copy paste the vote.
Then seeing after the clusterfuck before and my post doesn't really count as one, I'll just settle with reading.

Well that was me, I don't know the others. Currently using my office's ISP so the ID will hold, but after I got home it'll back to square one.
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>>4490014
I'll have to think of a way around samefaggotry.
I don't think it's an issue on votes like this though, not as much.
I don't want to hurt my actual legitimate players because some guy wanted to win a vote badly enough to try to game the system.

What do you guys think?
I'd prefer no system at all, but last vote just got ridiculous.
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>>4490016
I personally think it doesn't matter if the vote were samefagged or not. If we choose wrong we'll get consequences anyway, but then again, that will be on you so I can't speak on that.
I don't mind which, I just don't want that whenever the same situation arose and I do post a vote, it'll be regarded as a samefag because an anon doesn't like my vote.
Losing on a vote is fine, just a little upset if it doesn't count is all.
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>>4489677
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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>>4490016
I think samefagging is an issue only when it is as blatant as it was in the previous vote.
When people take advantage of their ID changing from time to time it's fine.
But when voting turns into complete shit show like the last one did You should just disregard all IDs with less than 3 proper posts.
Ultimately You are the quest master so whatever people say your decision is final.
If You believe the voting was samefagged You are free to ignore suspicious votes.
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>>4490016
Personally I’d prefer QM to just write the next post according to their own judgment and preferences regardless of the ultimate tally if the vote seems corrupted.
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And rip my office ISP.
Oh well, I'll vote like usual when I got home.
Or not, since my post will look like someone samefagging.
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>>4490016
The system from the last vote seemed fine. If it wasn't annoying then it wouldn't do much to discourage samefagging.
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>>4489675
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"This is dark news indeed." You heave a sigh a cover your face with your right hand. "Just when I think that this grail war couldn't become even more of a mess, a Dead Apostle Ancestor shows up!" You begin to laugh. "No! Really! This is great!" Your laughter becomes more and more uncontrollable. "Can't I just get a break, huh? No matter how much I plan for, this damn wo-" You are stopped. Interrupted mid-rant by a stinging sensation on your cheek. Did... Monica just... slap you? It doesn't hurt, but the sudden audacity of the swift strike has left you completely speechless.
More Shinji moments like that please!
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
The more ideas the better
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>>4490039
>Samefagging is fine some of the time
>It’s ok to take advantage of ID’s changing at times

No, no it’s not fine at all, at any point. This dude definitely samefags.
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>>4490064
Says you, Mister 1 Post.
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>>4490064
There is no way to tell if someone is samefagging unless it is done in obscenely obvious way. I do not want this quest turn into another "Sworn to Valour" so I recommended QM to not sweat it too much unless last vote situation repeats itself.
If You click on my ID and scroll this thread up You will see that I was one of the people who were calling samefags out.
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Having a Dynamic IP sucks
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>>4490106
Tell me about it
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>>4490106
I might only institute the one post scrutiny clause when the votes are especially close and hotly debated or if something like 5 voters with only 1 post to their names suddenly appearing to change the tide within minutes of each other.
I'm going to try my best not to alienate the people without set IP addresses.

After all, I myself suffer from an ISP that craps out at least once a week and shifts my IP to something else.
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Whatis can you tell us how much we missed by winning the virgin option?
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>>4490196
Relax, Anon. We are about to unlock secret route where we abandon worldly things to train bajiquan for a hundred years in isolated mountains.
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If that one dude earlier ITT nailed guessing a DAA meddling with the war, what are the chances the Manaka fags will her into being a boss down the road if not the main antagonist?
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>>4490211
Outer gods were also guessed before being properly introduced to the quest.
And anons mostly started spamming about Manaka after a dream Shinji had with something similar to her in it.
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>>4490211
Manaka schizos will never be satisfied until she literally walks out of the grail and starts slapping everyone around for a dead end.
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>>4490223
>and starts slapping everyone around for a dead end
I want her to fight Altrouge and her dog.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
I wanted to do a dumb Paint pic about the matchups but then I went to sleep.
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>>4490227
Altrogue's dog could probably solo Manaka and the six Alter servants without much difficulty. Manaka can't do true magic since she only "has connections to it", meaning that she would be destroyed against an actual True Magus. Plus Manaka probably dosen't have Beast 6 as the grail hasn't been filled up yet as far as we know, unlike in prototype which means that Manaka is severely nerfed.
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>>4489677
>>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
Let's hear what everyone has to say.
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I'll samefag a thousand IPs if it means keeping Shinji pure.
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The only waifu good enough for our boy is genderswapped Shirou.
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>>4490313
Its us and Shirou against the world
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>>4490313
RENT FREEE
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>>4490317
>Fem-Shirou
Ayaka route?
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>>4490326
I still can't get over how Arthur chose a generic Japanese high schooler over the half succubus wizard that made him king
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>>4490313
>genderswapped Shirou
Genderswapped Gil.
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>>4490332
Ayaka without her glasses was apparently attractive enough to make Proto Gil propose to her on the spot, and proclaim her as hotter than any female from Uruk.
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>>4490339
>any female from Uruk
>female
Classic Gil!
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>>4490349
Gender: [DATA EXPUNGED]
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>>4489677
>Before you decide on this plan for certain, ask everyone else around the table just how they would go about the assault. There's no point wasting their experience.
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"Everyone else, before we get started with this plan, I'd like to hear what you think we should do. I have my own plan of course, but I would appreciate if I had the input of the Servants here, after all, they've got far more experience in matters like this than anybody here at the table. So, does anybody have anything they want to say?"

Saber looks at you with a conflicted expression before she begins talking in a firm tone. "I don't really have anything to add to your plan other than to make a request. This... twisted version of myself. I want to request that nobody else attack her. This enemy is one that I have to face myself. I cannot simply allow such an abomination to exist." Saber seems to want to destroy Alter by herself. Not that you can blame her, you think that just about anybody would be disgusted if they were confronted with a twisted and evil version of themselves, and to destroy such an existence would be second nature to just about anybody.

"Granted." You turn to face the rest of the table after Saber makes her request. "Unless you need to defend yourself from her, nobody is to do battle with the Altered Saber at the temple, is that acceptable?" You do try to tread relatively lightly with the Servants. Despite everything, only Medea is actually your Servant here, and it's not like the rest of them completely lack any sort of ego. Well, Medusa just might, she's not really got any reason to fight other than for her Master.

There are murmured agreements from the present Servants. None of them are fool enough to deny Saber the right to deal with her own evil clone. It's really just the sort of thing that you need to leave to the person who it regards. "Right, now does anybody have any actual plan of attack based on the information we've got right now?" You opt to avoid revealing the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor to the rest of your allies right now. You don't want anybody to get cold feet, and the fact of things is that it's almost a certainty that they won't be showing up to the assault on the temple. Either as an ally to the evil or as an enemy of it. Not unless the evil hiding inside the grail is secretly Altrouge. But that wouldn't make any sense anyway. It's hardly like the Holy Grail, an earthly artifact, could allow Altrouge to make any real progress in her goal of becoming the next incarnation of Type-Moon. Not unless her goal changed to reaching the Root somehow. No, the Dead Apostle Ancestor in this town is almost certainly here for the purpose of observing you. Well, that's the most likely reason at least. Though you still don't actually know why Altrouge came to Fuyuki in the first place.
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Archer seems to be thinking of a strategy, but before he can say anything more, Lancer speaks first. "That temple has a strong anti-spiritual bounded field around it, my rune magic isn't enough to alter it, but there's a Servant here with the capability to completely bypass it, Isn't that right, Caster?" Lancer looks at Caster with expectation in his eyes. "That is if you're actually a competent Caster. I have no doubt in my mind that my own teacher would've had very little issue with something like that." There's a slight tone of suppressed fear in Lancer's voice as he brings up Scathatch. To Cu, his teacher was an enemy he was never capable of truly surpassing, despite all of his strength. "I'm suggesting that we disable their defenses and then when that's done, we can rush them from all sides!" Cu enthusiastically reveals his own plan.

Medea seems to strongly consider the plan to alter the bounded field around the temple. "From what I can determine of the barrier on that temple, it wouldn't be... impossible for me to erase it from this land given a minute or two. In fact, if I were given enough time, I could even turn it's power towards those it protects right now. Sapping the strength of the spiritual beings within it's confines. All things considered, it's not a bad plan at all. Weakening your opponents with the barrier they are exploiting has a certain poetic justice to it. Especially considering that the original purpose of the powerful bounded field was to ward off evil-spirits, or something along those lines.

"How long is 'enough time', Caster?" Lancer isn't all too satisfied with Medea's answer, and presses the ancient magus for more information on just how viable his own suggested plan of attack is.

Medea frowns at the spearman. "Without taking an in-depth look at the make-up of the bounded field, I cannot say. Though I cannot imagine it taking me more than about five minutes to have completely usurped the clumsy magecraft being used to protect that fortress." Medea responds to Lancer with a hint of annoyance in her tone. Clearly she's not all too keen on people like Lancer.
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>>4490728
We can buy 5 minutes, especially with Betty
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Archer evidently finally finishes thinking of his own plan and begins to speak next "Why not just lure them out of their fortress? We'd have far more success with a sneak attack if we had one of us appear near the temple gates apparently wounded and defenseless. Then, we could easily have Caster here enable a sneak attack on whoever ends up being sent out to deal with the wounded foe. While they are obviously assigned to protect the entrance to the temple, I doubt that those Servants at the gate are of the mindset to simply ignore the opportunity to deal with an enemy, despite what they might have been ordered to do." Archer's own plan relies on putting somebody in an unwarranted amount of danger in order to lure one of the enemy Servants from their post. While it does have potentially huge payoff if you manage to kill or perhaps capture one of the opposing Servants in order to tip the scales before the battle begins truly, it's also incredibly risky, and might end up not working at all.

>Go with Archer's plan of trying to lure out an enemy first before commencing the actual attack. If you get lucky enough, you might even be able to get Saber Alter out of the picture!
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
>Remain set on your original plan to have Caster teleport you into the temple. Nothing could possibly go wrong with such a simple and effective plan, right?
>Write-in...
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>>4490731
Lancer's plan makes more sense imo, we have more than enough servants to buy Medea some time. If Caster just teleports us in, we have the element of surprise but all sorts of things could go wrong if we don't at least get rid of that barrier. Archer's plan is just asking for SAlter to spam Excalibur at the servant we use as bait and losing them unnecessarily.
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>>4490728
Some reason your latest post won't load for me but I vote Lancer /Caster plan
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>>4490741
Also I'm this guy
>>4490729
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
Honestly? I was gonna say 5 minutes seems like too much time buuuuuuut we actually have a lot of servants that could do this easily. Archer if able to actually fight as an Archer is a fucking champ, he managed to hold off literally ever single servant, including Lancer who has Protection From Arrows, because he outranged that ability. Lancer stalled Gilgamesh for 12 hours and has an ability made for completely stalling fights. Saber and Rider can just guard Caster as she does her thing
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
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How odd still no update for me
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
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>>4490731
Archer's plan is unlikely to work; we've seen them refuse to leave the vicinity of the temple. I guess they'd probably do it if the bait started to attack but I am doubtful they'd change their behavior for something very obvious.
Lancer's plan could work, but it removes the element of surprise for a chance at weakening them.
Personally I think it best if we have Medea check the barrier first before deciding whether or not we can go for it.
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I think we voted for this previously, but also remind our group to look out for Gil. I have a feeling that he won't want to miss out on seeing two Artorias fighting each other.
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>>4490758
Gil is a complete wildcard that will murder us for inconveniencing him
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>>4490731
>>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
QM, please let us tell our allies what we know about fourth war servants and Gil. Now is the perfect time.
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>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
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>>4490765
But if there's a Gil Alter in the temple, he would gladly annihilate the impostor with extreme prejudice.
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>>4490850
Based on what happened in Prototype only the dead servants from the previous grail war were brought back as Alters. Proto Saber Alter happened because Saincraid managed to corrupt Proto Saber with grail mud or some other factor when stealing him from Ayaka. Unless there were shenanigans I doubt there will be a Gil Alter since Gil didn't actually "die" in the last grail war.
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
In retrospect, the teleport plan sounds a bit too much like A Bridge Too Far. Jumping in without adequate reconnaissance? Whee!
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
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>you faggots are so assblasted by us coomer samefagging that you've downvoted this thread on suptg to the negatives
the absolute state of shiroufags gentlemen
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>>4490876
>Everyone i don't like is a shiroufag.
The absolute state of coomers gentlemen.
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>>4490885
are you really implying theres any players here who aren't coomers or shiroufags?
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>>4490897
>Anyone who voted against tongue kissing an unconscious woman is a shiroufag! It has to be!
I am implying that you are retarded.
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>>4490901
to be fair, a shiroufag appeared two threads ago(i think) and proudly said he will samefag and use it to get shinji NTRed, so now there's this meme of every samefagging anon being that shrioufag with 10 million ips and such
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>>4490922
Those who samefagged last time were clearly coomers tho.
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>>4490922
Sounds like they were shitposting.
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>>4490897
And here I just vote on whims. Factions are fake and gay but please keep up the arguments, its entertaining.
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>>4481501
Why is the longer I participate in this quest the more true this is.
This image literally perfectly captured the playerbase and literally everything mentioned within has already happened ITT.
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>>4490970
How is QM a lolicon tho. I've seen people say this a few times and I don't understand what is the reason.
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>>4490972
I think its more Fate's fault than QMs because Fate has so many loli characters but than again QM did choose to use shuten + ibaraki lolis when he had a ton of other choices for assassin.
Not too sure about the details since I don't read Castlevania Elergy but according to /qtg/, the main love interest in the QMs other quest is also a loli.
Our OC servant is also a loli but at least QM is making us father-mode her instead of letting anons lust after actual mentally child character.

Personally I think its just a meme and QM isn't really a lolicon, instead he knows theres a fair amount of his playerbase that ARE lolicons so he inserted lolis for free (you)s.
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>>4490876
A what?
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>>4490922
that sounds like the most obvious falseflag in the entire world, samefags don't proudly declare their intentions like a supervillain. they just quietly samefag.
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>>4490973
i will now read castlevania
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I don't have the time to write an update right now so instead I'll just add an additional vote about here...

Select all that apply on how truthful you want to be with your allies.
Seeing as the other update has yet to be written, you can still actually vote on the plan you want. I'm not calling the vote just yet.
Just adding an extra vote.

>Have everyone reveal their strengths and weaknesses as Servants or you will. Everyone needs to know how best to fight along side each other.
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
>Write-in...
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>>4491067
>>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
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>>4491067
All of the above
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>>4490731
>Acknowledge Lancer's plan as a good alternative
>Submit our plan to teleport attack for review by Caster - as in would she have enough power to bring us there and back again and still have enough to fight in between.
>Probably switch to Lancer's plan, based on arguments provided


>>4491067
>>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
This should go without saying
>>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
This is likely to garner some opposition from our more moral allies. Emphasize that as local spirit she has additional boost to power and if we can bribe her with booze to win her support, or at very least deny her to the old bastard, it's worth attempting over a risky confrontation
>>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
Caution against premature conclusions though. It's just another wildcard to contend with...

As for weakness, I'd rather not force our friends/allies this way, at least not until we've achieved a shared victory.
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>>4491093
I believe Caster already reviewed our plan here >>4481422 :
>'Interesting, I see you aren't going to leave anything to chance here, Master. Doesn't it feel a little bit like cheating to you though? For our enemies to go through so much effort in setting up their defenses, only to have a far more talented magic user just bypass them in their entirety.' Caster laughs very briefly through the mental link. Seems like she has no opposition to this plan. In fact, she seems to be relishing in being able to show off her magical superiority, it seems.
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>>4491067
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
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>>4491100
Oh, you're right. So she thinks it's feasible at least. Still, I'd like to be sure she's got enough juice for it if we went through with it.

Another factor would be the meeting with demon. If it goes poorly, it will be another drain on her to get us out quickly.

I'm also somewhat worried that if she was incapacitated or drained or otherwise thwarted once we were in, we could get stranded behind enemy defences.
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>>4491067
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
This ones obvious.

Why are we telling them about us recruiting shuten?
Shirou, saber and to lesser extent rin+archer are all moralfags and shuten already ate bunch of faceless npcs earlier.
Do you really think they'll be fine with shuten and her chaotic evil ways?
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>>4491067
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
We can't really keep these secrets anymore, its life and death for everyone now
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Anyone know why I can't see some posts here? I don't have the ID filtered but like this
>>4491120
I can't see his post.
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>>4490990
It was more like trolling through samefagging threats tho, nonetheless it was quite hilarious
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>>4490922
>get shinji NTRed
I legitimately don't know how that's possible at this point, Shirou is our best bro and half the girls that like us like us a bit too much
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>>4491067
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
If we do strengths and weaknesses reveal we will be forced to do reveal of our own powers and tell them that Betty as Foreigner. And it feels that timing for it is wrong.
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>>4491194
>I legitimately don't know how that's possible at this point,
Reminder that the only people that "like" us is only because of circumtances. They're either just feeling grateful of you because we keep giving them stuff nilly willy or because we're an alliance with the same purpose or because we help them in some kind of way.
I really really doubt that the girls "like" us in that kind of direction, WHICH goes back to our initial point that it's easy to make the girls into shirou harem.
A few example of the girls:
>Illya, since she's already starting to settle and her grudge already passed, she can start feeling womanly love towards shirou if we give a bit of a nudge.
>Her maid will come automatically.
>Sakura could be in shirou harem easily by us avoiding her. She'll love shirou naturally since shirou's the one she's actually need. By giving sakura means we also give rider.
>Some anon already considered Medea and Shirou as an OTP on their headcanon just do a >write in of those and you'll get over vote wins to give medea to shirou
>Let betty hang out with shirou and he will take care of her like we never have done before and betty will fell for him
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Another post I can't see! Ah what is happening!?
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>>4491216
You got me with Illya but then again, i don't really care about romancing Illya. Sakura is the same girl that died alone waiting for Shirou. Medea is our servant in the end, there's a better chance she turns Shirou into a Projection Wand. Betty is our daughter
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>>4490731
>Switch to Lancer's plan of deactivating the Bounded Field and then launching a full scale assault on the temple. If what Caster says is right about being able to subvert the barrier, fighting the Servants within the temple should be a cakewalk.
>Write in - Bring up your original plan, perhaps find a way to combine both plans into one. (I.e, Caster and some others wait outside while Caster reverse engineers the barrier meanwhile Lancer and the rest try to distract the other servants in the meantime).

>>4491067
>Reveal strengths and weaknesses
>Reveal fourth war servants
>Reveal plan to forge alliance with Assassin

I feel like revealing our plan to recruit Shuten isn’t a bad idea, if we can get her to be on our side then she could be a very powerful and arguably useful asset to the alliance. Why wouldn’t we let our allies know of such a thing? The only downside may be Rin doing something stupid.
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>>4491216
Fuck off fag
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>>4491222
Nice, it means the possibility is there and exist.
That's enough for me.
Time to do some work.
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>>4491067
>>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
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>Sakura and Shirou
You might want to re-read pre-war interaction between Sakura, Shirou and Shinji.
And remember that we have "our own" homunculus maid.
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>>4491250
Yeah i almost forgot about that, she would straight up ignore Shirou when we were around
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>>4491250
I just meant that since we don't want to romance her, then it's better to give her to shirou.
Also "our own" homunculus maid is still technically Illya's. My point still stands.

I think you guys missed my point. The reason why girls love shirou in VN was because he's a natural good guy, and through his behaviour bit by bit they all grew to like him.
We as shinji didn't do this, mostly because we're too focused on the objective in front of us that everything we do is the most necessary to get the best result for success, but not in the way to make the girls love us like shirou did.
It's not like we keep the girls at arm length, they were never even considered us as romance partner in the first place.
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>>4491264
are you a speedreader or are you just retarded?
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>>4491216
I have never seen anyone this delusional.
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>>4491272
I read it from the first ever thread until now.
You're not denying my post though.
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>>4491277
>mostly because we're too focused on the objective in front of us that everything we do is the most necessary to get the best result for success, but not in the way to make the girls love us like shirou did
What are our objectives specifically? Also, we spent an absurd amount of time and money trying to reach out to people, with Sakura and Satsuki specifically, we kept buying them gifts and taking them out on dates.
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>>4491264
But we do want to romance illya.
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>>4491264
>We as shinji didn't do this
Shinji saved Sakura from fate worse than death.
Shinji went very far to help Illya know the truth without any solid reason to do so.
Shinji made it clear to homunculi that he considering them humans.
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>>4491280
>we
Next time there's a chance we could have a date will Illya, this guy>>4491228, me and probably a good amount of "anons" would choose otherwise. I'll make sure of it myself.

>>4491279
That was just us trying to change their doomed fate into happier ones. Doesn't necessary means we're romancing them. Our objective at first was to kill Zouken, now's the grail war. But like I said, everything is platonic.
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>>4491286
Why are you such a cuck?
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>>4491283
>Shinji went very far to help Illya know the truth without any solid reason to do so.
So does Sakura and Satsuki.
While Illya does feel grateful to us, we can still make her fall for shirou. We're more like some kind of close friend to her.
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>>4491286
Some reason your posts don't show. Oh you're the sanefagger?
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>>4491290
He could be but since there are people who answer him so it seems at least some anons see his posts.
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Whatis can you ban this guy from the quest?
>>4491286
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>>4491286
>Our objective at first was to kill Zouken
Why specifically did we want to kill Zouken
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>>4491290
If you mean samefagger, you're one aswell 1 post poster.

>>4491288
Give an actual input please.
I only want a discussion.
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>>4491297
To save sakura? Still doesn't mean it's impossible to make her fall for shirou.
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>>4491298
I'm normally
>>4491239
But I'm driving so off my main internet
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>>4490731
>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>Reveal your plan to attempt to forge an alliance with Assassin to your allies, you'll need to get them to agree to fight alongside Shuten at some point if you manage to secure an alliance, and just showing up with an Oni in tow may go poorly.
>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
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>>4491303
>To save sakura? Still doesn't mean it's impossible to make her fall for shirou.
Are we talking about the same Sakura right now? Same girl that died of old age waiting for the guy that killed himself trying to save her? Same girl that would straight up ignore Shirou whenever we were around? Same girl that we would go out of our way to spoil and hangout with when she had literally no one else? Yeah, sure I guess, if we go out of our way to specifically force Shirou and Sakura together and maybe start like, abusing her, while also forcing Saber and Shirou away from each other, then they would get together, its technically possible anon
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>>4491314
technically you don't really need to force shirou and saber away from each other. We're trying to give shirou a harem, remember?
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>>4491314
>Saber and Shirou
I am probably the only one who is betting on Rin and Shirou naturally happening here.
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>>4491318
i wouldn't bet on it at all, Saber and Shirou usually end up together if things are equal, at most, Rin just becomes his fuckbuddy
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>>4491316
No we're not
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>>4491067
>>Have everyone reveal their strengths and weaknesses as Servants or you will. Everyone needs to know how best to fight along side each other.
>>Reveal all that you know about the Servants from the fourth war. Your allies need to know what they are up against.
>>Reveal the presence of the Dead Apostle Ancestor in town to your allies. While it's not relevant to the battle at hand, they have a right to know of the potential danger.
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>>4491298
Input? Sure.

Sakura is a very devoted and single minded person. As soon as she chooses someone she will stick to that person no matter what. She called us "Her hero" and admitted to stalking us. Her feelings for us are very obvious. We could ignore her for the rest of her life, and she would still be in love with us. Not to mention that she doesn't like Shirou at all. In fact, she got super jealous when in previous thread we called and said that we are at Shirou's house. The way she sees Shirou is "Onii-chan's childhood friend" and also "Rival for onii-chan's attention". There is actually no way for Sakura to fall for Shirou.

Medea is clearly interested in us romantically. You would have to be blind to not see that. Shinji constructed by us in this quest is simply her type of guy.

Betty is way too young for romance. She seems to like us in a friendly way. She also seems completely indifferent towards everyone else.

In conclusion, I would like to state that you are either a delusional cuck or a falseflagging coomer assblasted after not getting your way in that samefagged vote.

>>4491316
>We're trying to give shirou a harem, remember?
I am pretty sure you are alone in this retarded pursuit.
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>>4489210
>>4491316
You should have done this falseflagging with a fresh ID.
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>>4491316
>We're trying to give shirou a harem, remember?
No we're not lmao, Shirou is my boy though so I wanna help him with Saber at least
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>>4491332
I agree with you but again your posts don't show up either.
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>>4491332
>The way she sees Shirou is "Onii-chan's childhood friend" and also "Rival for onii-chan's attention".
Man, i don't care if anons bitch at me, i'm definitely going for Sakura, its weirdly funny and entertaining to see those Yandere tendencies leak out
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>>4491332
>There is actually no way for Sakura to fall for Shirou.
There is a way. We just need more time.
>Medea is clearly interested in us romantically.
No, she's just attracted to our magical capacity. She's still the witch of betrayal, I doubt she already fell for us after all of this and actually still wary of us deep inside since we somehow knows everything about her. With us, it feels like we're doing this because we want to use her. It will be different with shirou since she will treat her naturally.
Yeah, I can't refute for Betty, BUT I still believe we could give her to shirou if we want it.

Also, it means that we're all agree we gonna give lil nudge to Illya towards shirou right?
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>>4491332
Nevermind. I just looked at this guy's post history. He is a coomer who raged at people who called out samefagging and called them shiroufags. Now he falseflags as shiroufag himself.
Just look at this shit
>>4488835
>>4488836
>>4489210
At least change your ID before you falseflag dumbass.
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>>4491353
I feel ashamed by the fact that you baited me into giving you a serious reply.
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>>4491356
Well I changed my ways.
And while I did think as a coomers before, I truthfully never done the samefagging. It's up to you to believe in that or not.

It's either being coomerfags or shiroufags in anon eyes anyway. It's not my fault that sometimes my vote aligned with coomers once or twice.

Oh and I'm not falseflagging about shirou. Again, I only follows what I want regardless of me being seen as which fags.
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can we ignore the retard, please?
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>>4491368
Yes
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>>4491332
>Betty is way too young for romance. She seems to like us in a friendly way. She also seems completely indifferent towards everyone else.
I think anons got way too relax about her and just consider her "normal loli servant".
She is very much a result of direct meddling of Outer Gods and with Nyarlathotep crawling around whole thing can still twist into being main plot with Altrouge and all other current concers taking a back seat.
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>>4491380
>She is very much a result of direct meddling of Outer Gods and with Nyarlathotep crawling around whole thing can still twist into being main plot with Altrouge and all other current concers taking a back seat.
If we're carrying such a servant with a danger level of a beast then what's stopping us from breezing all this hurdle in the temple?
Did we ever try asking betty herself?
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>>4491386
No for some reason no one has wanted to ask her or have Touko delve deeper after fixing her curse
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>>4491355
ESLfag is trying to falseflag?
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>>4491573
What did he mean by this
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Dead thread?
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>>4491977
Stop asking this.
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>>4491987
Sorry, just felt like 4chan was down or something. 3 threads I'm following haven't had replies for hours.
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>>4492329
Every time you say this, I push back posting the update by ten minutes.
This was a joke.
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Dead thread
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>>4492347
>>4492329
samefag
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You think about Archer's plan for a while, and while he might've seen something else, from what you saw of how your enemies acted when you began to beat a hasty retreat, they won't leave the gate for anything. Not only that, going along with Archer's plan would also leave whoever ends up being the bait for the trap vulnerable to being struck from afar with a long distance Noble Phantasm. You don't really want to rely on any of your allies being capable of dodging a relatively close range Excalibur Morgan at full power. In fact, you'd only sanction a plan like this if Medea were to instead cast some sort of illusion to deceive your opponents. You aren't quite certain of her expertise in such magecraft though. It's certainly not her specialty, but her all-encompassing skill with the magic of the Age of Gods ought to at least include some variety of illusory ability within it. No, there's just too much risk involved in Archer's suggestion, and you shake your head. While Archer might have a lot of skill when it comes to things like this, you just can't put your faith in a strategy that puts somebody at risk like that. You don't think that Archer's assessment of your opponents is better than your own either. So you shake your head as he waits for your answer. "No, Archer. I don't think we should rely on such a plan. It comes with too many risks and nobody can be certain that they would even take the bait. As much as I would like to capitalize on the opportunity to get rid of one of our enemies before the fight truly begins, I can't take the risk." You let your thoughts be known on Archer's plan first. The red cloaked bowman doesn't seem all too bothered by your rejection of his plan.

"No skin off my back." Archer merely shrugs. "Honestly, if it were an option here, I'd simply vote we detonated the entire temple in order to get rid of our enemies, but with the whole existence of the Greater Grail underneath the temple, that's just not a possibility." Archer frowns as he thinks about what would happen if the Greater Grail were to be destabilized and enter some sort of magical meltdown. You find yourself thinking the same thing as the white haired counterpart of the Master of Saber, you aren't sure just how much magical energy is contained in the powerful artifact exactly, it's practically so great it's impossible to measure, but you can estimate that Fuyuki would be no more if it did blow. The entire city would be wiped off of the map without a trace. That's not even to mention the sort of lasting damage that could be brought about through such an act.
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"Unfortunately, you're right. While it would be a simple affair if simply wiping the temple away with Noble Phantasms was a possibility, we do face that problem." Out of the corner of your eye you can see Illya frowning, and I get the feeling that Illya wouldn't be too pleased if we didn't at least give saving her Servant a decent attempt." Judging from what you actually saw of Illya and Avenger's interactions, you had assumed the two of them were actually somewhat cold with one another, but Illya seems to have really been caught up on losing her Servant. Is it simply the feeling of powerless that comes from being deprived such a powerful weapon? Or could she actually be missing Avenger? You aren't actually all too sure on that one. You didn't get to see enough of Illya's relationship with her Servant to properly make observations on the nature of it.

"If it worked, it would easily be the best option we have available to us. After all, there wouldn't be anything stopping us from going along with Archer's plan and then carrying out Lancer's suggestion afterwards." Bazett speaks up. "However, I share the opinion that it would practically be suicide for any of us to venture out alone in order to use themselves as bait." Seems that Bazett doesn't approve of Archer's idea either. Knowing Archer, he was probably just going to try to use this as an opportunity to nominate Shirou to be the one acting as bait. You wonder if the contract he has with the true Saber would hold any power over the false Saber... At least, the contract he has with Saber would almost certainly be felt by the altered version of Saber, even if the altered Servant isn't a direct corruption of the original, the resonance between two identical individuals is usually enough to cause unpredictable magical occurrences. In Shirou and Archer's case, despite their paths massively diverging, the resonance was great enough for Shirou to unlock his Reality Marble without requiring any sort of training through the sharing of memories.
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So then, if Archer and Shirou managed such a thing, what will end up being the case for Saber and Saber Alter? It's a dangerous thought, what if the corruption affecting Saber Alter manages to seep it's way onto Saber merely through doing battle with her corrupted clone? That would end up being a disaster of unparalleled proportions. You'll have to keep an eye on the two of them during their fight. Saber getting to be the one to deal with her evil twin may have been decided, but if the magical resonance between the two of them begins corrupting her, you won't hesitate to order a switch of group focus to destroying Saber Alter utterly. Saber will understand. Of course, this is only if such measures turn out to be necessary. With any luck, the lack of any temporal anomalies between the two Servants ought to prevent such magical anomalies from taking place in the first place. It's not an exact thing, to deal with two beings who should not possibly be able to co-exist in the same world on account of fundamentally being the same entity.

You try to draw your thoughts away from thinking any deeper onto the issue that is the existence of the duplicate Saber. You turn to the blue spearman, who is waiting patiently for your decision on his own plan. You can feel that he's satisfied that Archer's own plan was shot down almost immediately. "Actually, Lancer. I do like the idea of being able to weaken our opponents before the battle begins. It ought to make dealing with them all that much less of a monumental task." You approve the plan with a slight grin. "But the question is, are you up to the task?" The slight grin falls off your face. "The information I'm about to tell you all involves the extent of my knowledge on the strengths and weaknesses of the Servants I believe we will be up against at the temple. Each of them coming from the War before this one." Saber's eyes narrow as she realizes just what that means. The nightmare for the King of Knights that was the Fourth Holy Grail war will soon repeat itself. The troubled expression on her face is one of barely suppressed despair. You'll at least try to do Saber the mercy of not being forced to once against do battle with one of her once most loyal knights. You don't know if she'll even be able to cope with such a battle once again. "First off, Saber..." You trail off as you begin to explain the threats everyone will be facing...
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Almost thirty minute passes before you finish giving a relatively brief rundown of just about what every Servant that your enemy has should be capable of doing. The moment you finish talking "That true then, Saber? You remember fighting against this bunch?" As you finish giving the rundown of everyone's abilities from the Fourth War, including a slightly altered one befitting of the Altered Saber, Lancer seems to be getting excited about the caliber of the foes you will each be facing. Saber nods slowly as Lancer quizzes her, just that much seems to satisfy Lancer about the accuracy of your words though. Saber doesn't really seem all that bothered about the fact that the secret behind her identity has practically been obliterated, at least not after her first brief realization that everyone knew who she was.

Saber then proceeds to look directly at you with a piercing glare. "However, Master of Caster, you forgot to mention the Archer of the last war, didn't you? Why? If you believe our enemies to be the deceased Servants of the Fourth War, did you not include the one who is the biggest threat of them all? Why did you not bring up Archer?" Saber demands an answer as to why you didn't bring up Gilgamesh.

You chuckle briefly. "Because Gilgamesh isn't dead Saber. I don't know what you think happened at the end of the last war to him, but Gilgamesh survived and gained a human body." Saber looks as if she's ready to respond, but no words come to her lips, so you instead simply continue. "Assuming that the Servants need to have been relatively recently deceased for our enemy to resurrect them as it's slaves, then we should have nothing to fear from Gilgamesh..." You pause awkwardly. "Well, that is unless Gilgamesh shows up to crash our little operation." A possibility, but not an altogether likely one, thankfully. Gilgamesh seems to have been lulled into inaction for whatever reason. Perhaps he simply considers observation to be a more amusing way to spend his time. Though odds are he's just decided that it isn't quite time for his entrance yet. Putting the matter of Gilgamesh aside though, I do have some more information I wish to give you all. "First off, we've got an... uninvited guest snooping around the Grail War." You've got everyone's complete attention now.

"Oh what is it now? Did the Church decide to send the Burial Agency just to ruin everything even more, or something?" Rin doesn't sound impressed by the idea that there has been yet another unexpected development. Not that you can blame her. Rin probably just wanted this grail war to be a simple war with some powerful magical artifact at stake. Instead, she's having to deal with the fact that she's technically the one who has to take responsibility to stop the massive threats to her land as the Second Owner of Fuyuki.
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"You're close, sadly." You answer Rin with no humor in your voice. "No. There's a Dead Apostle Ancestor in town. The sixth ranked at that. Rizo-Waal Strout. I don't know what his motives are, but I know for a fact that he's to be avoided at all times at any cost, He's too dangerous an opponent to get into a battle with." You warn your allies away from doing battle with the vampire. Even if he did hurt Monica, you'll have to look past that for now. You just don't have the strength to spare for dealing with such a terrifyingly powerful opponent. In fact, of the Servants in Fuyuki right now, you think that only Gilgamesh would be able to actually defeat the Dead Apostle Ancestor by himself, and that's not the sort of fight that you'd want to get anywhere near should it actually happen. Nobody seems to have any sort of of objection to your request they don't go after the deadly vampire, so you move on to the last thing you wanted to tell them. "Finally, before we carry out our battle, I'm going to attempt to... recruit one more ally to our cause. It's a Servant I feel like we have a good chance at convincing to help us with the correct method." Namely having Caster sink Rule Breaker into her back while she's distracted and making your own contract with her. "However, some of you may have reservations against... associating with her."

"Why is that?" Saber is the one to question you here, and you sigh. This isn't going to be an easy thing to explain. But you suppose you'll just have to do your best.

"Because the Servant I refer to is Assassin, and is one of the Servants responsible for a slew of disappearances around the city." You slowly look each of your allies in the eyes. "Yes, Assassin seems to have problems with magical energy from her mana and has as a result... been forced to resort to the consumption of the human population of Fuyuki." Though that's obviously only a half truth, you don't think that her Master would allow his Servant to make such a mess if it wasn't actually a necessity.

"You... You can't be serious." Even Archer is caught off guard by your bold decision as he quickly realizes just what it is you intend to do. The red garbed man deeply frowns at you "That sounds suicidal, even by the standards I'm used to." Seems that Archer doesn't think that getting Assassin as an ally is a good idea at all. Then again, he's almost certainly made the connection as to who was responsible for the masses of bones in that alleyway now, so you don't blame him for thinking so poorly of Shuten. He's got no problem with allying with Rider though, and in his timeline, she almost did something worse through the usage of Bloodfort Andromeda.
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Shirou doesn't look at all happy by the prospect of teaming up with such a murderous entity. He doesn't look like he really knows what to say though, so it's instead Rin who decides to make her thoughts clear on things. "Are you out of your mind? Archer told me what he saw in that alleyway, and you want to just... team up with the monster responsible for that?!" The girl is shouting now, and you can tell that you're starting to lose them. You might be the leader, but if everyone decides to go against one of your ideas, there's nothing you can do. "How exactly were you planning on getting this monster on board anyway? Were you just going to stroll up to them and ask them not to eat you?!" Rin doesn't sound like she's expecting an answer. Too bad.

>"Well, doing that worked the first time. So I guess so, yeah."
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
>"You're right, Rin. I was foolish to think that recruiting Assassin was a possibility after what they've done. They might be powerful enough to turn the tide in our favor, but that power would come at too great a cost to be considered."
>Write-in...
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>>4492363
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
Not like we're signing off on the man eating part either, we don't have much of a choice, either she sides with us or we incur further risk of death on everyone
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>>4492363
>>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
But also mention that we already talked with her once and we are confident we could do it again.
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>>4492363
>Write-in...("I'm no fool, Rin. I know full well that monsters can't be changed. But some very well can be tamed and with some cleaver planning, some slick tricks and a lot of will power, even trained. Don't worry about a thing, I know what I'm doing.")
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>>4492363
I'm batman bitches
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>>4492363
>"Well, doing that worked the first time. So I guess so, yeah."
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
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>>4492398
Support
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>>4492383
Support.
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>>4492363
I'm suprised Saber hasn't flipped out at us yet, shes the biggest lawful good character amongst our faction.
Only reason she tolerated Kerry was because he memed her into believing "the greater good" and even than she had massive discord with him.
Who wanna bet that Saber will eventually cause a massive hissy fit once the temple raid is over and shes less autistically focused on her evil clone?
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woops forgot to vote
>>4492363
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
>>4492398
support
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>>4492363
>I’m well aware of the danger she poses. More so than you, in fact. That’s all the more reason to try and neutralize, or better yet get her on our side, without direct confrontation, especially if knowledge of her personality gives me an advantage.
>(explain the details)
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>>4492363
>Write-in...
>"It's easy, I'm going to borrow shirou on this one. Based on my analysis after my encounter with assassin, I'm 100% sure that shirou can "tame" this servant."
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>>4492499
If this doesn't go through, supporting this>>4492398
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i thought you guys were making shit up about a shiroufag
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>>4492506
I'm not a shiroufag. I'm legit thinking that shirou is compatible with shuten and he can be her master better than us.

That is if you're referring to me with that post, if not then ignore this.
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>>4492506
He is falseflagging coomer just look at his post history.
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>>4492492
I support this.
With Gilgamesh and DAA roaming around we are not in position to reject any help.
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>>4492506
He's the guy with a boner for Saber who wanted us to fuck every servant to power them up somehow. The poor smoothbrain thinks he's being clever but apparently people are actually buying his deal so what do I know.
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>>4492363
>"Well, doing that worked the first time. So I guess so, yeah."

>>4492514
That sounds plausible. It's like the bathing with dragon blood strategy but instead uses our high profanity magical semen.
Supporting this.
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>>4492508
Fuck off, your votes aren't getting counted. It's over. You're done.
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>>4492527
Says a 1 post poster. You should just use your real ID and confront me instead of hiding with new ID.
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>>4492363
>Write-in...
>"Doing that worked the first time. I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about it."
I would also like to say something about how its rude of Rin to call Shuten a monster due to her actions. Mana starved servants can do some wacky things (Medusa's Bloodfort, Gil's kid batteries at the church). Also, while Rin may not know it, she's in a room with Medusa and Medea, people who could be called monsters as well due to actions they were forced to make; Medusa killing to protect her siblings, Medea who was cursed because of Jason and then killed a bunch of people at his wedding. As one of those are our servant and the other is our sister's servant, it is quite rude how she is willing to works with these two "monsters" but won't work with another. Even though Shuten probably thinks killing is fun, she probably won't kill if we find something better to occupy her time with her alcohol. Besides, Getting Shuten on our side kills two birds with one stone: no more murders and we get a powerful ally. Maybe three birds if Zouken is her current master, and maybe even 4 birds if Ibaraki want to follow along as well.
I'd go further but this is getting a bit long.
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>>4492363
>>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
>>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
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>>4492363
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
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>>4492363
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
but also >>4492398
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>>4492499
+1
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>>4492499
+1
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>>4492649
>>4492658
>2 posts by this ID
>1 post by this ID

>>4492363
ignore these two votes
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>>4492667
Why would the QM ignore the 2 post voter?
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>>4492363
>>"I don't like the idea all that much either, Rin. But if we're going to win this war without massive casualties, sometimes you need to side with a monster to deal with a bigger monster."
Also let's not start judging morality regarding servants Rin.
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I can't wait for the time when samefagging coomers will force QM to implement voting system similar to "Sworn to Valour".
Then we will finally be free from those pathetic people who get mad and start trolling and falseflagging every time they lose.
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>>4492781
What is it, tripfagging?
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>>4492783
Something like this.
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Please, whoever is trying to fuck up the score of the last thread on the archive, can you not?
You're acting like a royal faggot.
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>>4492789
Assblasted coomers prove once again that they are the worst representatives of the human race.
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Coomers here.
Please explain what a score is, where was it and what does that have anything to do with the qst.
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>>4492789
Like, did you get money from this? Or is this some kind of reddot upvote things?

I'm speaking up because that ID who only posted just to shit on coomers without contributing shit, accuse me and my fellow coomrades.
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>>4492804
On the sup/tg/ archives, threads are given scores by voting.
The score doesn't actually mean anything other than an indication of whether or not somebody liked the thread.
That doesn't stop retards from thinking that down-voting it will actually do something other than revealing how pathetic they are.

>>4492805
Nah you don't get anything from it, that's why it's so ridiculous to go out of your way to try to ruin.
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>>4492805
I have contributed by exposing your rotten nature for everyone to see.
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Goddamnit, by this point i almost wish every single girl would just reject Shinji so that the coomers would go the fuck away. And i'm a Casterfag. This is just getting ridiculous.

>>4492363
>"Of course I'm not going to try to play fair with the man-eating monster. Do you take me for a fool? I've got a plan, Rin. Don't worry about that."
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>>4492806
Well that does sounds kinda dumb. For all its worth, let's hope that they leave after this.

>>4492808
Sure you are you fucktard. I appreciate you more if you put some input or ideas to how things will be going.
The coomers is better because they at least think of an idea to get their dicks wet instead of complaining that the vote didn't go the way they want like whatever you're doing right now.
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All I want is for our cock to plunge into a gooey Loli pussy
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>>4492812
Sorry but Betty is for daighteruing
Illya and Shuten are for giving adult bodies to.
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>>4492811
But the vote did go my way. It were your coomer friends shitting up this thread after they got wrecked.
I have also provided QM with a great idea right here >>4492781

I wish you would learn how to read so you would never again shit out worthless posts like the one I am replying to right now.
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>>4492811
Oh, you're that retard who can't write in english.
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>>4492809
Then come my child. Let us go with the shirou harem route.
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>>4492811
No.
Cheating in votes is much worse than sanctimonious angerposting, whether the cheating was motivated by hormone induced sanity loss or malicious intent towards the quest itself.

Although it too can become an eyesore, it is an understandable response.
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>>4492788
Wow that is autistic. Hope this doesn't have to be a thing, especially with my retarded sleep schedule.
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>>4492818
You're banned from the quest.
Leave.
Cunt.
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>>4492815
I mean a contribution to the qst you mongoloid. Like this guy said >>4492514 about fucking every servant to power them up somehow. That kind of ideas. It doesn't have to be about cooming.
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>>4492822
Okay 1 post poster.
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>>4492823
His idea is retarded so there really is no surprise that something like you would find it appealing.
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>>4492824
I know QM he sayyou aren't welcome.
Go away.
Vamoose.
Dog.
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>>4492827
I don't even...
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>>4492827
Whatisaqm is my dad and he beats me everyday and he says you’re banned from the quest bucko. Better get out of here.
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Man I can't even tell whos falseflagging and whos genuinely autistic anymore.
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