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The Grail War continues, and you've found yourself involved in an awkward family reunion.

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.

The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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Last Thread: >>4661477
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"It might be better if you went after this spear instead, are you certain it will be effective?" While you don't specifically want to kill Merlin, he's the sort of person who doesn't actually die when he is killed, so you don't really care all too much about the idea of it. If he does prove to be an actual enemy, you aren't about to hesitate when it comes to sending him back to Avalon.

"Certain enough. While I'm not allowed to know the full capabilities of the spear, it is the greatest artifact possessed by the Holy Church right now, in a way, you could consider it to be one of the artifacts of the Church that actually balances out the Seven Superweapons of Atlas that the Mage's Association have locked away. The only information I have about it is that it apparently rewrites destiny somehow, but I haven't got any more information than that." Ciel doesn't look entirely too pleased about the hierarchy of the Burial Agency preventing her from knowing more. It's kind of strange that somebody like Ciel is kept so low on the ranks of the Burial Agency, she's powerful enough to face off against Servants if you remember correctly, and she's immortal to boot.

"Alright, then it's settled. Send your man after the spear. You're sure he'll be capable of actually getting it?" As you think about things, you quickly realize just who the man Ciel is talking about is, could she be talking about Enhance? If you remember correctly, he's the one who Ciel has steal the Black Barrel for her. Man, the guy must have infiltration skills above the levels of an Assassin class Servant if he can break into Atlas Academy or as Ciel seems to believe, the vaults of the Holy Church.

"I'm certain. He's broken into the vaults of the vaults of the Church once before, actually. That's how we first met." Oh man, this really is Enhance, isn't it? Well, whatever, if he can actually get the Spear, which really can't be anything other than the Lance of Longinus, seeing as how little Ciel seems to know about it given the information on it being restricted. You had no idea that the Church would've had such a powerful artifact stashed away! You knew they had some incredible items stored in their vaults, but the Lance of Longinus should be one of the greatest weapons on the entire planet! And... you're about to have it stolen. Ah well, it's not like the Church wasn't already going to be opposed to you as a result of having Ciel defect and because of the oni and vampires in your faction.

"Well, I guess that settles that. We're going to be stealing from the Church." The three girls from the Arthurian Era don't really seem to care all that much about the idea of stealing from the Church, and neither does Shirou, for that matter. "How fast can we expect him to actually get his hands on it and get to Japan?" Haste is key after all.
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"When I give him the message, it shouldn't take any more than twenty four hours. It's not like he even sleeps either. In fact, I'll go send out the message now." Ciel gets up and begins to leave the room before she turns back to you. "I'll meet you at your house in Fuyuki tomorrow with it, I have a few things I need to take care of before I leave Misaki Town. Take care." Ciel leaves the room without any more words exchanged. Well, at least you won't need to find her a bed. You wonder what she's going to do in Misaki? Last you checked, there shouldn't be anything of any note left in the town for her. All the vampires should be gone now.

"Well then, everyone. I think that's about all. I need to go to bed now, sorry about waking the two of you up, Saber, Shirou. Sorry about waking you up as well, Mordred." Morgan however wasn't asleep, probably, so you aren't going to apologize to her for that. "We'll talk more about recent developments tomorrow, and of the summoning of Morgan especially, though Morgan has promised to try to make amends for her past actions."

"I'll be keeping an eye on her all the same." Saber says coldly. Looks like she's only really permitting Morgan's presence because of the potential that Merlin has become her enemy. Well, that works, you suppose. An alliance formed through wariness of an enemy may eventually allow the two of them to properly reconcile. Though Morgan does have a long way to go, and it's unlikely that Saber will be very pleased if she finds out about the plan with Gray and the Corpse King, no matter what Morgan's intentions might've ended up being.

With that, everyone begins to return to their quarters. You included. Morgan goes out to the garden once again, apparently wanting to be close to nature or something, Shirou and Saber return to their rooms, and Mordred just sort of stays in the lobby. You return to your room to find Betty still lying fast asleep on your bed, and you yawn tiredly. It's been a really damn long day, and even if you're not going to get much sleep, you really need to get at least some sleep in.

You collapse on the bed next to Betty, not even bothering to change out of your suit, and almost immediately fall asleep.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdIYVXCfrQM

Something feels wrong.

You find yourself standing in the middle of a field, near a tree. A bracing wind sweeps past you and the skies are completely clear. There appears to be somebody standing underneath the tree, though you can't figure out who it is from here, they are clearly a young girl. The figure from underneath the tree seems to be waving at you and trying to get you to come over to them, but for some reason you keep feeling the urge to look behind you, though a sense of unerring dread is telling you not to do so. Strangely, there's another figure, standing further away from you. You can barely make them out, and they appear to be staring upwards into space. Something is wrong with this dream. The grass is still despite the wind, the tree remains motionless, there is no sun in the sky, you feel like something is watching you. Something sinister, and something... powerful.

Is this a dream?

>Turn around.
>Go see the girl under the tree.
>Go see the man staring into space.
>Do nothing.
>Write-in...
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>>4673675
Outer Gods, Manaka, World and Status quo?
Tempted to pick potential Manaka because she might release Medea but
>Turn around.
We will have to face it sooner or later.
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>>4673675
>Turn ar-
not time yet
>Go see the girl under the tree.
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>>4673675
>Go see the man staring into space.
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>>4673675
>Go see the man staring into space.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
SAVE ME NIGGERMAN
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>>4673675
>Go see the man staring into space.
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>>4673675
>Go see the man staring into space
Hoo boy. Time to finally meet Nyarly.
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>>4673675
>Go see the man staring into space.
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>>4673675
>Go see the girl under the tree.
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Well seeing as it's a new thread, I'll call in 50 minutes.
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Also, I'd like to hear just what you think each option represents.
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>>4673744
>Turn around
Some Outer God is the most likely candidate since the only other time Shinji was really spooked was Primate Murder.
Although Altrouge showing up to give Shinji wet dream is kind of funny idea.
>Go see the girl under the tree.
Manaka.
Or we could be inside Betty`s dream and it is actually her.
Very small chance for Len.
>Go see the man staring into space.
Somebody aligned to Alaya and/or Gaia. Probably Merlin or Zelretch.
If we are deep inside Outer Gods territory it could also be Randolph Carter.
>Do nothing.
Status quo and refusing to take sides.
>Write-in...
Potential option to do something like using Reality Marble to summon somebody here or twist place to our favour?
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>>4673675

>Go see the girl
Well she’s the only one of them actively getting our attention isn’t she.
Girl in the root, could be Manaka alright... or it could be Gaia?

Could also be meaning something else’s entirely, like attuning to our capabilities. In that case chasing girl might be the worst idea bar doing nothing...
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>>4673675
>Turn around.
Time to meet Azathoth.
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>>4673675
>Go see the girl under the tree.
It would be rude to ignore her.

>>4673744
I can't think of anything more fitting than >>4673751
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>>4673675
>Turn around.
Outer God or Azathoth?
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>>4673675
>>Go see the girl under the tree.
i want to yell at Manaka to give us back our friends
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>>4673751
I kinda want the man to be Wodie, even if it's unlikely.
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>>4673675
>Go see the girl under the tree.
I feel like turning around would end the dream completely and Alan clearly doesn't want to talk with us.
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The vote was already called, and speaking to the man staring into space won.
>>4673851
Wodime is like 10 years old right now, anon.
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>>4673860
LET THE MAN DREAM
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You ignore the girl underneath the tree. For some reason, you feel more inclined to go and see the man staring into space. You slowly make your way over to the man, surprised by your own slowness before eventually you are standing directly in front of the man. The man looks down at you and smiles as he raises a hand to his face. "Let us do away with the veneer this dream is based upon, shall we?" He snaps his fingers and the grassy field disappears, and so does the man.

The world shifts completely, and you soon find yourself standing upon a rock floating through a cosmos of stars and planets. A booming voice echoes around you. "You've spoken with the girl, and you've spoken to the will. But we've yet to properly introduce ourselves to each other. So let us do away with the deceit, shall we? I am the being you may know as Nyarlathotep, and you are of great interest to both myself and my father." You can only blink in surprise at the sudden change of scenery. "You call yourself Shinji Makiri, yet in truth you are beyond the dream of reality, in some ways you could be called an Outer God yourself, if not for your inability to truly manifest a physical form in this reality." An Outer God? "While the others of my kind would've also liked to have met you themselves, the presence of my father within his host was enough to keep them away." Well, this is bad.

"What do you want, then?" You decide to keep your question simple, you need to know just what Nyarlathotep wants, and you can't afford to be awestruck or fearful of the Outer God.

"Straight to the point, aren't you? But I suppose I cannot blame you, my human avatar does enjoy himself too much sometimes, so I'll speak clearly instead." Wait a second... Human avatar? Alan!? "I wish to request of you the destruction of the girl who has stolen power which doesn't belong to her. The girl who may very well become an Outer God of her own right if she is allowed to continue on her current path. I speak of the one you know as Manaka Sajyou." The booming voice seems to spit the name with disgust. "The girl with a connection to the Root who wishes to use you in order to complete her apotheosis to become truly supreme over this reality all and all others connected to it." Nyarlathotep doesn't sound at all happy by the existence of Manaka, you wonder what she's done that has managed to annoy an Outer God to this level.

"Manaka...?" Manaka is trying to become an Outer God? That's... deeply troubling. "But if you want to get rid of Manaka, can't you just do it yourself?" It's Nyarlathotep, while you understand that out of all of the Outer Gods, he seems to dislike using his true power the most, he should still be powerful enough to easily deal with somebody like Manaka.
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"I could certainly do such a thing, though I am uncertain I could manage defeating the girl without manifesting my true form upon your planet and destroying it entirely, and it is difficult to recreate a humanoid form that the planet accepts. While my human body is powerful enough to deal with a few Servants, the girl herself has already reached beyond that level. To put it in a way that might mean more to you, Manaka Sajyou is at the level of a Beast through stealing strength that doesn't belong to her." A Beast? You knew that Manaka was strong, but to already be at the level of a Beast? Just what the hell has she been doing? Does this apply to both of the Manaka under the temple, or just one of them?

"So you want me to deal with Manaka for you, is that it? I hope you don't mind me asking, but what exactly do I get out of this arrangement? Sounds like you're just asking me to deal with something you yourself are incapable of." You aren't just about to become an errand boy for an Outer God, even if you were planning of getting rid of Manaka anyway.

"Never would I have thought a being like yourself would've existed, in your current state, I could destroy you with but a thought, yet you are acting with such bravado." Nyarlathotep seems to be trying to intimidate you now, but you honestly aren't buying it.

"Yeah, but you need me to do something for you, so for all your power, you need me right now, so you can't kill me." It's a confident statement and one that has a chance of backfiring spectacularly if you've misread the conversation, but Nyarlathotep clearly wants you to do something, and he seems to have gone through considerable effort to meet you.

The booming voice laughs wildly. "True enough. True enough. If you wish for compensation, then how is this. If you prove yourself a capable agent, I shall teach you how to achieve apotheosis." Apotheosis? Like... becoming a God? "Or if you don't wish such a thing, I suppose I could agree to fulfilling a request."

>"No deal."
>"I'm going to be dealing with Manaka anyway, but I don't want to be tied down by any deal with you."
>"Alright, I'll help you out, but only with this Manaka issue. Don't expect me to become some sort of herald of the Outer Gods."
>"What sort of requests of mine could you fulfill?"
>Write-in...
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>>4673871
>>"What sort of requests of mine could you fulfill?"
>>What would you want me to do specifically
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>>4673871
I'm going to be dealing with Manaka anyway, but I don't want to be tied down by any deal with you
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>>4673871
>"What sort of requests of mine could you fulfill?"
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>>4673871

>"If you are keeping track of my person then you are surely aware I'm already looking for a way to deal with the girl myself. Why approach me and offer anything at all?"

well technically we're the one approaching here but still. He did specify destruction of the girl, so maybe neutralizing her in another way is possible yet not palatable to him?
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>>4673871
>"I'm going to be dealing with Manaka anyway, but I don't want to be tied down by any deal with you."
You offer us a cheat code for becoming a God, Nya? Who do you take us for? A fucking casual!?

But in all seriousness I feel like it's a terrible idea. Considering it would probably turn us into something akin to an Outer God, which is far from ideal.
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>>4673871
>>"What sort of requests of mine could you fulfill?"
>>Write-in...
Guys, we're overlooking something. Specifically this.
>Does this apply to both of the Manaka under the temple, or just one of them?
Let's ask him.
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>>4673871
>Does this apply to both of the Manaka under the temple, or just one of them?
>"If you are keeping track of my person then you are surely aware I'm already looking for a way to deal with the girl myself. Why approach me and offer anything at all?"
>"What sort of requests of mine could you fulfill?"
Should we bring up Summer BB to him?
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>>4673791

GOD IS HER !!!!!
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>>4673925
Support
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Manaka played way too much Bloodborne.
>>4673871
Supporting >>4673925
Bringing Summer BB also sounds fun.
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>>4673925
Support, Summer BB is good civilization.
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>>4673871
>>4673925
support
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>>4673925
Supporting.
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Calling in twenty minutes!
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>>4673871
>>4673925
Support.
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>>4673871
>>4673925
+1
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>>4673925
+1
Mention SBB
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Do you really want to bring up BB Pele?
You are aware that she only has a small amount of Nyarla's power and is not even close to his full strength?
This is a flash vote.
>Yes
>No

Call in 15 minutes
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Apotheosis might not be the worst idea. If there are no big strings attached to it by Nyarly.
It would allow us to fully utilize our powers and remain partially independent from any other major players.
It is probably long process which we decide not might follow through at all.
Plus it would allow us to maintain power balance with those all crazy powerful women who are after us.
But if cost of it is to potentially became enemy of both Alaya and Gaia and getting banished from the world it is certainly not worth it since just taking deal from Alaya will give us much more with more lax terms.
If they want from us to be to do diplomatic attache job or take mediator role regarding further cases like Manaka here, Salem Singularity or hunting run away lesser spawns it could be also beneficial to Alaya and Gaia as well provided both parties here are not interesting in a fight and would like to have less antagonistic atmosphere.
After all Foreigners do work for Chaldea and to a benefit of humanity.
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>>4673973
No. Please no. We have enough problems with girls right now.
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>>4673973
Yes.
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>>4673973
>>No
i don't really care
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>>4673973
Not really. But I don't think it matters.
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>>4673973
Yes
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>>4673981
You'd be surprised.
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>>4673973
No
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>>4673973
>No
I'll show restraint for once.
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>>4673973
>Yes
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>>4673973
>>4673984
I personally want to do it for the meme, and we most likely will never ever get a chance to do this otherwise. I hope he'll laugh hysterically, the guy really needs some genuine levity with Manaka being such a headache to him in this world.

>>4673985
Address pic related as a potential scenario, please?
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>>4673973
>Yes
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>>4673980
>>4673985
>>4673973
well if it matters then yeah sure, Yes, why not, i change my vote since it feels like a one chance kinda deal
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>>4673973
>>4673981
>You'd be surprised.
In that case, I will change my vote from no to yes.
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>>4673993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3omYY5ZwP0
Well, first you'd need to find a way to summon or resurrect Hitler somehow. If only there was some sort of person with an ability that makes rumors manifest into reality...
But asides from that, it's a fun scenario, but unlikely to occur any time soon. Even if Hitler would make for a fairly amusing Servant to write depending on what class he is summoned into.
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>>4674008
Here's another scenario: Lancer Vlad versus Night of Wallachia
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>>4673973
>>Yes
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>>4674011
Lancer Vlad vs Night of Wallachia would end up in a mirror match as TATARI would basically just copy Legend of Dracula through proximity to Vlad
Wallachia isn't the sort of enemy that can be defeated through physical strength alone.
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>>4674008
Oh yes.
Secret ending with fight between Avatar of Shiva Churchill vs Hitler possessed by the spirit of ancient Aryan Warrior-King vs Specter of Communism for the battle of heritage of Hyperborea hidden somewhere in between Ural Mountains and Shambhala by the Mistress of the Copper Mountain.
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>>4673871
>"I'm going to be dealing with Manaka anyway, but I don't want to be tied down by any deal with you."
>>Does this apply to both of the Manaka under the temple, or just one of them?
>"What sort of requests of mine could you fulfill?"
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>>4674029
> It's real
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>>4673973

I know I'm late but I'd regret it if I didn't make a token effort.

>No.
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>>4673973
Yes, always liked the interactions of nightingale and BB.
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>>4674108
>>4674056
>>4674022
>>4674005
>>4673998
>>4673997
>>4673992
>>4673984
>>4673977
Yes

>>4674060
>>4673991
>>4673989
>>4673975
No
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>>4674154
Methinks we're going to be needing Merlin's counsel after this one.
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>>4674169
>"Just fuck them and knock them up already"
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>>4674169
Better ask Amour instead.
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"A question... Does this apply to both of the Manaka under the temple, or just one of them? One of them seemed to be more outwardly hostile, after all." The one with the noticeable stab wound through her chest, and also the one who seemed far more enthusiastic about things.

"Only one of the girls is attempting to usurp power that doesn't belong to her, the other seems to be an observer. One is native to this branch of time, where the other has trespassed into it. As a result, while it would be preferable for the girl to be obliterated from all timelines to neutralize a potential threat to the stability of reality, it is not necessary." Oh, well, some good news for once! Only one of the two lunatics under the temple is actively threatening the stability of reality!

"Well, that's some good news. But another question... If you're keeping track of me, then you must've known I was already plotting against Manaka, so why approach me and offer me anything at all?" It's a big question. Why exactly would Nyarlathotep even bother? He must know that you are going after Manaka regardless of whatever else happens, so why would he make an offer?

"Because the potential of your failure against the girl is still high, and I wished to remind you of the urgency of things. If she is not stopped within a week, she will be able to finish her current ritual and be too powerful to stop for anything on your planet, and she won't bother to wait for you to come to her to use you as her means of becoming an Outer God and attempting to usurp control of the dream of existence. The only reason she has yet to leave the temple is that it is currently under the influence of powerful bounded fields that blind the planet to her existence." Oh... Well that's bad. That's... really bad. You've only got a week to stop the end of reality?!

"Well, that's... not good." You try to keep your face neutral as you take in the fact that you've only got a week to stop Manaka. Hopefully you can figure out a way to stop her in time. Though the fact that even Nyarlathotep isn't all too confident in your odds of success right now is telling you that you might need to play along with her game in order to amass enough strength to stop her. "What... sort of requests can you fulfill anyway?"

"Practically anything you can imagine." Nyarlathotep sounds kind of insulted by the idea that his powers might have some sort of limit. "The powers I command are nearly infinite, and none in the material universe can match what I am capable of." Well, you suppose you should've been expecting that.

"Well, great. One... last thing. Oh man, this might be a mistake, but you don't know if you'll ever get a chance to mention it again if you keep quiet now! "Are you aware of the Advanced AI of the Mooncell, BB?" Well, now you've said it, so you might as well carry on. "In at least one branch of time, she-"
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"-Will be summoned by the Chaldea Security Organization and will eventually come into contact with a fragment of me through the usage of Chaldea's observatory and will attempt to claim some of my power for her own?" Nyarlathotep cuts you off. "Don't act so surprised. Do you really think that I wasn't aware of the futures of the other branches of time? It is only this specific branch which has a future that cannot be observed. Those with clairvoyance would only be capable of peering into similar futures under the illusion that it is the same, but due to your existence in their future, they were never truly looking into the future of their own worlds." Well, that's taken a lot of the wind from your sails. You were hoping you would get to surprise Nyarlathotep with that information, but then again, you suppose that trying to surprise a literal Outer God with forbidden knowledge was a long shot anyway. "This BB, as you called her, she had thought she had managed to steal a portion of my power against my will, but in truth, I merely allowed her to become a host of my power, But I ought to thank you for the reminder... it is... always good to have additional agents." The booming voice begins to chuckle ominously.

Then, there's a flash of purple light in front of you, and you leap backwards in surprise, almost tripping and falling off of the rock! The light soon clears, and in front of you is a silver purple haired tanned girl wearing a white leotard with an oversized red ribbon, along with a large black and red cape. Of course, she looks almost exactly like Sakura... Did... Nyarlathotep seriously just summon BB?!

"H-huh?" The girl looks around her at the cosmos as they pass by for a moment in utter bewilderment, before her gaze is fixed on you. "So, you're the worm who called me away from Hawaii? You've got quite some nerve to try to ruin my good time! Wait a minute... I think I know your face..." What the hell is going on?! Are you really going to have to deal with BB now?!

"H-hey now! You've got the wrong idea! I didn't summon you!" This is really turning out to be a complete and utter nightmare. You would've given your left arm not to have to deal with BB in your entire lifetime, but here she is, seemingly summoned as a result of your own big mouth.

"That's right. I did. You borrowed power from me, and I allowed it, so now you shall serve me until I have decided your debt has been paid." Nyarlathotep decides to finally reveal his presence to the confused girl who stole some of his power.

"My debt? I don't know who you think you are, but-!" BB starts looking around for the source of the voice as she cheerfully denies any knowledge of who she's talking to.
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"SILENCE!" BB's eyes go wide as the tentacles that she usually commands bind her mouth and prevent her from uttering any more words. "You will aid me, or I will have the power I allowed you to borrow erase you on a conceptual level. Do you understand, artificial intelligence?". Nyarlathotep sounds especially disgusted by the word 'artificial intelligence' for some reason. Though you have no idea why. BB for once looks terrified and simply nods her head. "Good." Without another word, BB disappears in a flash of purple light.

"W-what just happened?" Where you were trying to not allow yourself to get spooked, it looks like Nyarlathotep suddenly throwing a hostile BB in your face has managed to get to you. Just how powerful is he?!

"You gave me a good opportunity to demonstrate some of my powers to you." The voice chuckles. "You needn't worry about the AI. If she does as I command her, I will return her to her proper place and branch in time." You finally understand just how powerful the being you're talking to is. When you compare Nyarlathotep to even something like Alaya, Alaya is but an insect in comparison. "Now, about our business with Manaka Sajyou. I trust that you'll deal with her?"

>"I will, but after that display, I'd rather not make a deal with you."
>"I will."
>"Where did you send BB?"
>"What if there's a peaceful resolution?"
>Write-in...
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>>4673973
Yes
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>>4674008
Ruler class?
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>>4674202
>>"I will."
>>Write-in...
But if it's possible to save my timeline's Manaka, I will try to do that.
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>>4674202
"Where did you send BB?"
>"What if there's a peaceful resolution?"
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>>4674202
>"I will."

Not gonna look an Outer God in the mouths.
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>>4674202
>>"I will."
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>>4674202
>"I will."
>"Where did you send BB?"

Holy fuck we actually got BB....kind of. Apart of me wants to see if we can gain her as an ally but....having essentially the digital equivalent of Sakura (or apart of her at least) co-exist with our Sakura is going to be
A: Very weird, and
B: Hard to explain.
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>>4674202
>"I will."
>Write-in...
Can you use your power to give us back the allies she took from us? We'll need everything against her.
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>>4674202
>"I will."
>"That was pretty cool."
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>>4674235
+1

I hope to god making this deal doesn't erode our humanity
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>>4674202
Well this is going to be a nightmare to deal with Sakura and BB.
>"I will."
>"Just to be sure, our deal ends when Manaka is dealt with and I get my rewards. I do not become your agent, right?"
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>>4674242
>I hope to god making this deal doesn't erode our humanity
Existence Outside the Domain: E-
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>>4674202

>I will. Now I know it's even more urgent than I thought.
>I trust you'll not be offended if I'd rather not tie myself to you though.

So that's what the bounded fields are for. Would Alaya nuke her if those were to go? But we still need to recover our allies first.
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>>4674202
>>"I will."
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>>4674202
>"I will."
>"That was pretty cool."
>"Where did you send BB?"
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Calling in twenty minutes.
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>>4674202
>>4674235
Support.
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>>4674202
>>4674235
support
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>I will, but I want to save my timeline's Manaka
>>4674208

>Where is BB and what if there is a peaceful resolution?
>>4674213

>I will
>>4674216
>>4674226
>>4674257

>I will but where is BB
>>4674232

>I will, but can you use your power to return my allies to me?
>>4674235
>>4674242
>>4674293
>>4674314

>I will, and that was pretty cool
>>4674240

>I will, but just to be sure, our deal ends when I deal with Manaka, right?
>>4674246

>I will, now I know it's this urgent. I trust you'll not be offended if I don't tie myself to you though.
>>4674255

>I will, that was pretty cool, but where is BB now?
>>4674274

Alright.
Give me best of 3 1d100 please.
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Rolled 15 (1d100)

>>4674321
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Rolled 59 (1d100)

>>4674321
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Rolled 52, 25, 35 = 112 (3d100)

>>4674321
GO HIGH!
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Rolled 6 (1d100)

>>4674321
Nat 1 Incoming
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>>4674327
You almost had it.
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Oooh, so close to the threshold for two.

Pick one ally.
>Medea
>EMIYA
>Cu
>Bazett
>Shuten
>Medusa
>Monica

Will call this in thirty minutes.
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>>4674325
So painfully average.
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>>4674332
>>Medea
Only choice
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>>4674332
>Medea
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>>4674332
>>Medea
GET THE WAIFU BACK!!!!
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>>4674332
>Oooh, so close to the threshold for two.
Fuck, I really wanted to free Bazett too
>Medea
I promised.
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>>4674332
>Medea
BABY GIRL
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>>4674332
>Medea
Finally.
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>>4674332
>Medea
Baby come back
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>>4674332
>Medea
Sorry Rin and Sakura, gotta get my witch waifu back
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>>4674332
Welp, let’s make it count. Sorry, other friends.

>Medea
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Well, that was a little more unanimous than I was expecting.
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>>4674356
You underestimate our love for Medea.
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>>4674356
idk what you were expecting here QM, it was an easy choice if it was just 1, if its 2 or 3 then we would've had some arguing
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Medea took our first kiss.
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>>4674356
Medea already suffered too much. The fact that we didn't pick her the first time was bad enough.
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>>4674373
she's gonna be pissed when she realizes how many people are clinging on to us after she was gone for like, 2 days
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>>4674373
I want to give her more than just the first kiss.
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>>4674373
If she wants she can the rest of our first times. It's our welcome back gift.
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>>4674356
Was not even here for it but I am in favor of the Medea fagging
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>>4674356
Most of us want to marry and kiss Medea. Myself included. That and she will be a useful ally to get back.
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>>4674391
I honestly didn't realize how popular she was, makes sense since she always gets fucked over in the original VN and deserves to be happy
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>>4674440
she has a shit ton of utility, she's one of the most useful servants to have because of it, plus now that we have Morgan, we can summon that dragon and get a Magic Core
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"I will endeavor to see to the destruction of the Manaka who is a threat." You don't quite know how exactly you should approach the problem of the other Manaka. She's not an active threat to reality itself, but she's a potential threat, as Nyarlathotep called her. Well, you'll see about it when you next deal with her, you wanted to ask Nyarlathotep one last thing... "Also, if you want me to defeat Manaka, then... is it in your power to free my allies from her clutches?" With any luck, you'll be able to remove the only thing Manaka can hold over your head entirely.

"It is, but... I shall only free a single one of them, consider it an acknowledgment of the agreement we have made today." Nyarlathotep seems to agree to your request, but not entirely, unfortunately. "Which of your allies will you like me to free?" Nyarlathotep asks, his booming voice echoing about you. You'd really prefer if he just took physical form in front of you, but there might be some reason behind him remaining invisible to you.

"Medea. I want you to give me back my Servant." There's not really even a question as to who you ask for. While you do feel bad about leaving Monica in captivity, if any of those taken captive will be able to aid you in defeating Manaka, it's Medea. Besides, when you get Medea back on your team you'll be able to completely negate travel time through her ability to teleport you back to Fuyuki!

"Very well, It is done." There's no fanfare or any discernible event that shows Nyarlathotep did anything at all, but for beings as powerful as he is, you suppose there's no need for such things really. "I will warn you however, that the girl is going to be displeased by finding that her captives keep going missing." Oh yeah, Rin escaped too, didn't she? Well, you suppose that negotiations with Manaka might be a little more difficult as a result of this, but you suppose that you can just deny any knowledge of how Medea escaped. "I shall be watching your progress very closely..."

The dream ends just like that, and you wake up in bed, a quick glance at the alarm clock tells you that you barely managed to get five hours of sleep, but you feel remarkably well rested despite that. You get out of bed excitedly, and immediately manage to trip on something laying on the ground. Or rather... someone. Regardless of the source of your fall, you still manage to slam into the wooden floor quite hard. If you couldn't regenerate from practically any wound you're certain that your fall would've left a bruise. You quickly get up off the floor in order to look at what caused your fall, and you can't help but smile softly when you see her.
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Laying there on the floor, now stirring from her sleep, is Medea. It seems like Nyarlathotep help up his end of the bargain quite admirably. You're thankful that you weren't wearing any shoes, and as a result managed to avoid hurting Medea... Though as she's a Servant, it's unlikely that you would've even managed to hurt her like that anyway. Still, she looks so fragile it's only natural that you instinctively want to protect her from harm.

As she opens her eyes to look up at you, she begins speaking weakly. "Master...? Is that you?" There is hope in her eyes, though that hope is masking a fear that she is simply imagining your appearance or hallucinating events.

>"Yes, Medea. It's me."
>Say nothing, help Medea to her feet and hug her.
>"I've missed you so much."
>"I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I didn't get you out first. Can you forgive me?"
>Write-in...
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>>4674467
>>Write-in...
"No, it's Shirou."
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>>4674467
>"I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I didn't get you out first. Can you forgive me?"
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>"Yes, Medea. It's me."
>Say nothing, help Medea to her feet and hug her.
>"I've missed you so much."
>"I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I didn't get you out first. Can you forgive me?"

It just follows so well.
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>>4674479
+1
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>>4674467
>>"I've missed you so much."
It's true, on my end. You fuckers just had to pick the loli didnt you.
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>>4674479
Ah fuck it, its cheating but he is right. Changing.>>4674476
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>>4674479
Support.
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Calling in 40, with any luck I'll be able to finish one last update for today.
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>>4674479
Support.
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>>4674479
+1
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>>4674467
>"Yes, Medea. It's me."
>Say nothing, help Medea to her feet and hug her.
>"I've missed you so much."
>"I'm sorry. I'm sorry that I didn't get you out first. Can you forgive me?"
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Did you like your present?
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>>4674527
I think Nyarly is a cool guy, he delivers wife and doesnt afraid of anything
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>>4674527
Thank you Uncle Nyarly.
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>>4674527
thanks for the waifu Nyarly
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>>4674527
Nyarly saw the anons getting jealous that shirou banged a girl before us and decided to be a bro and help us out.
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>>4674553
we simply aren't as based as Shirou, several girls pining over us, a few for literal years and Shirou has sex and proposes to a girl he's known for less than a week
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>>4674555
In my case I was literally holding out for Medea so I am all in for it now
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>>4674527
I'm all aboard the Outer God train now.
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>>4674479
+1
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"Yes, Medea. It's me." You can't keep the smile from your face as you look at the woman staring back up at you. You've not even been separated from her very long, a few days of time away from each other, but even still, it feels like you've been kept apart for a month. It's only now that you have lost Medea for a short amount of time that you truly realized how much you valued her.

You exchange no further words with her as you offer your hand to her to help her up from the floor. She quickly takes the offered hand and you pull her back to her feet, before you embrace her in a sudden hug. Medea lets out a quiet noise of surprise as you hold her tightly. It only takes a few seconds for Medea to reciprocate with her own hug, and the two of you stand there silently holding each other for a moment.

"I've missed you so much, Medea." While you can't say that you've spent every waking moment thinking about how to get her back, that's only because you kept managing to be caught up in increasingly more stressful and attention consuming circumstances. Honestly! You ended up killing two of the Dead Apostle Ancestors for good in the span of twenty four hours! You ended up making Mordred the King of Britain! She summoned Morgan! The list goes on and on.

"I... have missed you also, Master." Medea's voice is soft as she speaks into your ear. "I was unable to maintain my consciousness for most of my captivity, but I could still feel the passage of time." Medea's voice is sad as she mentions her time imprisoned beneath the temple.

"I'm... Sorry. I'm sorry that I didn't get you out first. I had to-" You start trying to explain your actions to Medea. You really do regret not being able to save her back then, but at least it doesn't sound like Manaka was interested in making those she had captured suffer in any way.

"I understand, Master. You did the right thing." Medea says reassuringly into your ear as she accepts your apology in an instant. You freeze for a moment, not expecting forgiveness to come so easily, is she really going to accept you for what happened without even needing an explanation?

"I... Did?" You weren't expecting her to be so accepting of not being chosen to be freed first, but you aren't about to complain. You are however left wondering just why she's so ready to accept your apology.

Medea breaks away from the hug to smile at you, before she goes into an explanation of events. "Before I totally lost my consciousness, I determined that the energy of one of the girls was... not of this world. Similar to that of your Servant. As for rescuing Avenger, I understand that you... had a promise to keep." She doesn't sound as happy about you choosing Avenger over her, but she still sounds as if she's accepted that you wouldn't want to break your promise.
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"I'm... glad that you aren't holding this against me... I just want you to know that I didn't abandon you. I'll... I'll never abandon you, Medea." You find yourself quite incapable of controlling your emotions as you once again embrace the woman. You are overwhelmed with guilt now that you find yourself face to face with the woman, even more so in that she isn't even trying to hold what you did against you at all.

"I know, Master. I trust you to keep your word." Medea tries to comfort you before you start uncontrollably weeping at your own failures or something, though you manage to maintain enough of a grip on yourself so that you don't make a complete fool out of yourself. You eventually end the hug and try to straighten up your clothing a little bit.

"Quite a lot has happened since you were taken captive, by the way." You decide it might be best to change the topic of conversation over to one that doesn't make you feel so guilty. "We don't have all that much time, so I'll give you a recap of all that has happened over breakfast along with everyone else. Though... there are a few new faces that you might not recognize, so don't be alarmed." As you make to leave the room with Medea in order to head to the Tohno dining room, you notice that Betty is still asleep. You could wake her up now, or you could leave her sleeping and wake her up when it's time to leave Misaki Town. Of course, now that you've got Medea back, returning to Fuyuki should be as simple as just asking her to teleport you back to your home. As far as you're aware, Medea doesn't have any sort of range limit on her ability to teleport others.

>Wake Betty up.
>Leave Betty to sleep.
>Carry the sleeping Betty to the dining room.
>Write-in?

>>If you have any preferences over what you want Shinji to have for breakfast, just mention it in your vote.
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>>4674527
Thanks Charles Nyarles
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>>4674636
Carry Betty to dining room and pancakes.
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>Carry the sleeping Betty to the dining room.

That's where the pots and pans are at.
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>>4674636
>>4674635
Literally nobody in this entire quest has ever told Shinji he did the right thing and they forgive him for his actions up until now. NOBODY. Not even Sakura, if I remember right. Not even Monica. This alone makes Medea best girl. I wonder how much more this Shinji will take before he snaps, and how he'll snap when (not if) he does. He also got spooked multiple times in a short timespan.

Anyways, my vote
>Carry the sleeping Betty to the dining room.
Be as nonchalant as possible about carrying a small child or carry Betty as if she was Shinji's own daughter, and watch as all the girls are struck by how fatherly he's acting, thinking about the future with him :^)
>If you have any preferences over what you want Shinji to have for breakfast, just mention it in your vote.
Pancakes, some fruit, several glasses of water and some juice because Shinji is a martial arts expert and knows to stay hydrated like a motherfucker (no coffee needed). Simple as
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Well, that was the last update for the day. Did you enjoy the session today, everyone?
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>>4674664
It was fun.
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>>4674636
>>Leave Betty to sleep.
>>4674664
Yes
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>>4674636
>Carry the sleeping Betty to the dining room.
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>>4674664
I enjoyed reading through it.
I don't feel too comfy about the BB thing and I feel the Medea reunion was a bit overdramatic, but I'm happy we got her back!
Hopefully, Manaka isn't too petty about her losing her leverage and doesn't start torturing Monica or something.
Low key happy you also can't guilt-trip us with images of Medea anymore! At least now you'll have to go out of your way to find images of Monica to make anyone feel bad about our totally valid choices!
Great stuff today, wish I had come sooner.
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>>4674636
>Carry the sleeping Betty to the dining room.

>>If you have any preferences over what you want Shinji to have for breakfast, just mention it in your vote.

Nigga I want waffles after this shit.
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>>4674664
>Medea is back

Yeah man Im good, get ready for the thirstiest you have ever seen one of your most restrained players.
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Also, now that you've actually got Medea back, I'd like to hear if any of you have any big plans, aside from the dragonblood plan, which I assume you'll be wanting to go ahead with at some point now.
Of course, if there is enough blood for more than one person to take part in the ritual, who else would you want to give a power-up to?
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>>4674636
>Try to wake Betty up.
>Leave her to sleep if she doesn't wake up easily.

>>4674655
>Not even Sakura, if I remember right
We haven't done anything for Sakura to forgive, have we?

>>4674664
It was fun. I believe Shinji kinda overreacted, but it makes sense with what some of the voices in his head have been saying.
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>>4674738
>I believe Shinji kinda overreacted,
He just got told he has a week to save reality. He is understandably a little emotional right now.
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>>4674737
>who else
Shirou. Fuck it why not.

>>4674635
>Carry the sleeping Betty to the dining room.
The smell of food should wake her up. Speaking of

>what food should we have
Pancakes. A simple and effective meal.
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>>4674737
I would like for it to be people that are committed to helping or being allied to Team Shinji in a purely platonic way.
No waifus! Only Brotherhood!
So Shirou for sure. Number one best buddy and coolest pal a guy can ask for.
Giselle, get that nice maid upgrade. No, I don't consider her a waifu. She's our maid and martial arts student.
SHIKI if he wants it since he seems to be forever indebted to Shinji.
I'd say Monica for sure, but she probably won't be around for when we do it.
Maybe Rin, but I doubt she'd accept since it's an offer from us. Asking is the brotherly thing to do though.

Honestly despite everything, Shinji doesn't have that many people that are on his side that don't wanna smash his pelvis to powder and are god tier powerful in their own right.
We need more bros guys...
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>>4674737
>>4674805
I'd also consider Miyako too, if we ever got around to teaching her like we said we should.
But there's no way of knowing if she's just as cock crazy as the rest, or if we'd be able to get her on our side fast enough to involve her.
This is also assuming we have a ton more blood than I think is implied we can get our hands on. She's sorta bottom of the list, only above Rin.
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>>4674738
>We haven't done anything for Sakura to forgive, have we?
The only thing i can think of is when we mistakenly fed her tiamat.
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>>4674737
I am simple man, just want to marry and make her happy
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>>4674737
>illya because i wonder if that would fix her dying in a year shit
>shirou because that guy is suicidal
>rin
>sakura
>the rest of our human allies
>>4674815
Well, dragons are quite big most of the time.
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>>4674831
we didnt really fed her tiamat, we fed her something that acted as a tiamat bait.
>>4674636
>>4674746
+1
Also i'm curious where the fuck BB is.
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>>4674664
Yes.
I hope we reach a time where we can just chill with our friends/lovers/whatever.
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>>4674737
Shirou, Rin already has enough circuits and Sakura already has enough powers ups, Shirou needs the boost
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>>4674845
don't the blood also gives a lot of defense
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>>4674847
Yes, 2 or 3 different heroes from around the world bathed in Dragons Blood and they all got greater defenses (barring one of them who closed his eyes when bathing in the blood)
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>>4674852
then i guess rin would made some use of it, all of our human allies so they don't die as easily.
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>>4674855
If its for 2 people, I think us and Shirou is the best choice, us because it would further empower our already absurd abilities and Shirou because the Magic Core would likely be the boost he needs to trace Divine Constructs like Excalibur without dying. If we can pick a 3rd person then Rin is the best choice, she's kinda defenseless and needs a power boost
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I just realized that we should create Zelretch's Jewel Sword, we might be able to perfect it even further and if Rin gets the dragon blood power boost, she'd be able to better spam it
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>>4674636
>Carry the sleeping Betty to the dining room.
>>4674527
Nyarly is great.
>>4674664
It is nice to have Medea back and that we still on good note with her.
>>4674737
Shirou definitely.
Ciel, Giselle and SHIKI are also the ones who would also benefit the most out of it.
Illya and Rin could use a boost but just making them use kaleidosticks would cover most of their weaknesses.
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>>4674881
Ciel and SHIKI are immortal and have Roa's techniques, they’re fine
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>>4674881
Ciel and SHIKI can't even die.
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Yeah, I think Shirou is the best balance between needing it for survivability and being able to make use of the physical enhancement.
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i want to FUCK medea
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>>4674902
yeah same my dude
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Question.
Would Drangon's Blood even work on Sakura?
Is she just doomed to be utterly unaffected by magic? If so we really need to find some way to keep her safe because she's one most vulnerable person on our squad given she can't be speed healed.
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>>4674951
Even if she wasn't imbued with nullification, I'm not sure it would work due to her connection with Tiamat.
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Speaking of other options.
We could try to make Satsuki bath in dragon blood. Plus we now have enough energy to apply concept to her Reality Marble.
Those two things alone should be enough to boost her to the level of 27 Dead Apostle Ancestors even without training.
And since Second Saber place is technically now vacant we could try to cheat and ask Medea to try and summon something.
>>4674889
>>4674896
But it would generally make them much better frontline fighters.
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>>4674972
Yeah but they don't need it at all, Shirou and us are frontline fights and though we have a healing factor, we're not immortal and Shirou specifically has low quality magic circuits
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>>4674636
Carry the sleeping Betty to the dining room.
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Someone should make a waifu poll. Id do it but its 3AM here and I need to sleep so I can wageslave.

Medea best girl.
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>>4675094
no

Medea best WIFE
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>>4675116
I have no disagreement with this
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>>4674655
Arc told she believe in Shinji
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>>4674527
>>4674664
Yes and yes. I do hope this will not come back to haunt us (too badly) but regardless it will have been worth it.

>>4674737
Not sure if it counts as plan but we're gonna need to milk Medea for her temple experience. She said earlier the bounded fields were outside of her league and she spent her time there barely conscious but perhaps she could discern more now, especially that we have better idea what Manakas are doing.
Additionally, given our track record of letting ourselves into and leaving a mark on girls' private spaces, would it be a stretch to do the same to Manakas' territory? Admittedly they would not be as okay with us coming inside as Sakura and Satsuki were so it would probably be good to drain Medea's dragon for juices first. Another question would be what sort of alteration we could make that would allow us to weaken Manaka and recover remainder of our allies.

Alan said their bounded fields are keeping Gaia oblivious of Manakas' scheming. Does that mean if we disrupted them the planet would excise her? But that would probably mean our allies would go with them. It would be good if we got a chance to talk with voice of planet too.

Another thing I'm wondering is Merlin's ability to throw us around with no apparent effort. We really need to do something about this, or else we're going to have to rely on ourselves assuming Gil's bracelet works as advertised, since only one person can wear it at a time unless we can reverse engineer and duplicate it - perhaps that would be an option with Morgan and the other experts in our group?
Aside from that, was it Merlin's own power he used, or was it authority of some other power? He did say power of a God, which is worrying.
And did he reveal his face just to be smug at us or because he needed us to recognize him for some reason?

>>4674835
>Well, dragons are quite big most of the time.

>Onsen episode: Dragon Bloodbath
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>>4675346
extremly evil witch
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>>4674636
>Carry Betty

Can't believe I missed the entire thread where we got best girl back.
We need to be careful with Dragonblood though, pretty certain that it might be able to make someone go full Vortigern.
We need to get our witches to start collaborating.
Touko, Medea and Morgan together.
Unstoppable
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I think our first step upon getting back to Fuyuki should be gathering the rest of the Servants.
Then figuring out a method to either reverse altering or break her control of them.
Also is nobody else worried about BB?
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>>4675388
>Also is nobody else worried about BB?
She's fine, I'm sure she'll get alon really great with Sakura. Right?
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>>4675390
BB hates humans so probably not.
Don't think she's very fond of the original Sakura AI either.
She's a real pain in the ass but hopefully Nyarly has a tight leash on his new dog.
She's not as strong outside the Mooncell I think so we should be fine if she decides to try antagonizing us.
Man this is gonna make Mooncell Shenanigans even stranger.
We should have BB work on a Supervirus to give us complete control over the computer systems of the planet if we manage to get her on board.

I wonder what happened to the Chaldea Nyarly stole her from.
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>>4675094
https://www.strawpoll.me/42719788

I hope I didn't forget anybody
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>>4675412
>Medea
>Touko (really close second)
>Arc
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I think we should offer Medea the position of Head Wife.
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>>4675419
I think we should outspeed Saber and Shirou and marry Medea first.
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We have a lot of lurkers huh.
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>>4675423
Why don't we just gather all the waifus in a room and make the offer?
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>>4675427

I believe it was already ruled we should settle our relationship with them individually rather than broadcast it in presence of multiple contenders.

And tbf we should settle our relationship, one way or another, especially with Satsuki, considering she considers herself our girlfriend already.
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>>4675419
Arc is more suited for it.
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>>4675427
Do you want to visit Taiga Dojo so bad?
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>>4675429
Well the fact that Satsuki is dependent on us forever for our blood pretty much confirms a harem.
>>4675431
She's suited for the job of Chief Wife Wrangler.
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>>4675433
I think we've got good odds of success if we're completely transparent with them.
No need to be a pussy about it, and we need to one-up Shirou somehow.
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>>4675434
>forever
you mean until we devampirify her.

Satsuki deserves better than to be forced to remain a bloodsucker.
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>>4675433
They also will be waiting there you know?
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>>4675437
Why would we want to take her cool powers away
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>>4675436
>if we're completely transparent with them.
To say what? "Alright I decided to date you all?" We haven't even deicded if we will pick just one girl, a few, or all of them.
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>>4675412
>forgot Ciel
Fuck!
Too many goddamn waifus!
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>>4675441
Her powers are not result of her being a vampire. Her powers are the reason why she survived being turned in the first place.
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>>4675442
Well between Medea, Sakura, Betty and Mordred, that's at least four characters that Shinji has agreed never to abandon or leave.
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>>4675444
Seems like a waste of a good powerup
Dead Apostles have no cap like humans do.
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>>4675450

Is that a good enough reason to make her require human blood for sustenance? Maybe for the duration of war, but even then it should be her choice as soon as we're able to restore her.
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>>4675455
She only needs blood.
Any type of blood will do.
Doesn't have to be human.
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>>4675465

Fair enough, I stand corrected. Regardless, I maintain that it should be her choice whether she wants to be that way, power up or no.
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>>4675470
I'm sure she'll be raring to get rid of the thing that means she gets to see us and drink our apparently delicious blood every day.
Absolutely.
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>>4675455
Dead Apostles aren't really inherently evil, they just start out really hungry and usually end up in a culture that encourages them to indulge in their worst impulses.
It's completely possible to be a "white" vampire if someone helps you through the early stages.
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>>4675476
Yeah, and seeing how Arc has basically adopted Satsuki she'll be fine.
Hold on if Altrouge is Arcueid's sister doesn't that mean Satsuki is like her niece?
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>>4675481
Yes
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>>4675496
Should we get Satsuki to start calling her Aunt Arcueid to see how Arc responds?
This might be why Arc is being so nice to Satsuki.
Girl is practically family.
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>>4675499
If she wants to, though I don't think Satsuki thinks of herself as having a vampire family.
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>>4675476
Enhance is a good vampire, he apparently still has human eyes and a human smell still
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>>4675412
Interesting results.

Anyway, calling and writing in 40 minutes.

Good morning.
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>>4675443
>Didn't include Lugh
Weak.
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>>4675412
Medea pretty handily yet we didn't pick her first against Manaka?
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>>4675516
It might be hard to believe, but we don't base all of our decisions around waifus.
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I suspect the poll results would have been different if it hadn't been posted right after one of the most Medea-friendly updates in quite a while.
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>>4675521
Good one anon
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>>4675407
>I wonder what happened to the Chaldea Nyarly stole her from.
He stole somebody's gacha roll.
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>>4675541
But it's winter, so how could someone have rolled a summer servant?
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>>4675570
Nyarles is above such concepts as time and space.
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>>4675574
Not even an Outer God is more powerful than seasonal marketing.
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>>4675580
What makes you think seasonal marketing and Outer Gods are two unrelated things?
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Hold on, my urgent DIY repair job needed an urgent DIY repair job, gimme a sec to tally now...
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Oh I guess a tally is unneeded, it's overwhelmingly in favor of carrying Betty.
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>>4675584
Filler arc with Shinji and Enhance hunting vampires when?
https://youtu.be/7dVKMla1LAY
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>>4675593
may as well drag all of our bros, gotta make a reputation for all of them somehow
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So what are the odds we end up charming BB?
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>>4675670
four
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You don't want to try to wake Betty up just yet, but you feel like it might be a little bit rude if you just left her in the bedroom all alone, so there's only one thing for it! You move over to the bed and lift Betty up with ease, holding the girl in a princess carry with ease. She's still as remarkably light as always, and you have no issues with carrying her all the way to the dining room, with Medea following close behind.

"This... doesn't look like your home, Master." Medea observes the differences in surroundings. "Something didn't happen while I was captured, did it?"

"It doesn't look like my home in Fuyuki because we aren't in Fuyuki right now, we ended up taking a detour to Misaki City due to the actions of one of the enemy masters, and as a result, we've dealt with a Dead Apostle Ancestor this town was having." You quickly explain to the woman, while you're going to recap the actual details for everyone at breakfast, Medea is sort of deprived of even the most basic information.

"Dead Apostle Ancestors? Here?" She sounds concerned, of course, the Dead Apostle Ancestors have been operating as a group for thousands of years now, and there are some remaining that actually were from the Age of Gods! It's unlikely that Medea ever ran into one of them in her life, but there's always a chance. "I must admit, my knowledge of Dead Apostles isn't all too comprehensive, in life they stayed away from me and I stayed away from them. They all knew better than to attempt to attack a wielder of Divine Words and somebody with blood from Helios running through their veins." Understandable, but somewhat regrettable, it seems that Medea's knowledge on Dead Apostles is limited. It's unfortunate that she likely hasn't got any specific anti-Dead Apostle spells, but you doubt you'll be running into any more of them any time soon. You wonder if it would be possible for her to call upon her divine blood from Helios to create something like an artificial Sun to weaken and destroy Dead Apostles...

"Yes, but they've been dealt with now, and we'll soon be returning to Fuyuki." Sooner than expected, thanks to Medea and her teleportation magic, thankfully. You've missed being able to make use of such utility. Her mastery of spacial magic is something you've missed greatly in the time she has been gone. Not being able to simply teleport where you want to go is kind of a hassle when you've experienced the ability once before... Perhaps it would be possible to learn how to teleport yourself? Truth doesn't seem to have many limitations in all honesty, and it might be possible to use it to create portals or to straight up change your location with it! Though it will probably require months of training and learning at least, even with Medea's tutelage, so it isn't exactly practical right now.
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"Well, that's some unexpected but... good news? I look forwards to hearing just what happened over breakfast." Medea smiles at you, and you return the smile. You don't know what she's actually going to think of everything that you've been getting up to since she was imprisoned by Manaka, but with any luck she'll be able to provide some insight onto things that you might have otherwise overlooked.

Finally, you finish making your way to the dining room, pushing it open to see almost all of your allies with the exception of Rin and SHIKI sitting around a large rectangular table. Mordred is sitting at the table opposite Saber and Shirou, though Morgan is sitting next to her, so the general mood of thatpart of the table is... awkward, to say the least. Sakura is sitting with Arcueid and Satsuki, and the three of them appear to be making small talk, at least that's a sign that the three of them seem to be trying to get along a little better. Illya is sitting next to her Avenger, who is still wearing a suit, seems like Illya didn't want him to just be bare-chested for breakfast. Illya's maids seem to be assisting the two Tohno serving girls. Well, you hope that Akiha has properly dealt with Kohaku and put a stop to her mad wish for revenge on those who had already died. Meanwhile, Touko is sitting with Lugh, and Shiki and Aoko are sitting across from her. There's a brief pause as they notice that you've finally arrived, and that you've brought somebody with you that they weren't expecting.

You realize that you might actually have to think of a way to explain just how exactly Medea got out of captivity! You can't just tell them you made something like a deal with an Outer God, can you?

>"Good morning everyone. Caster is here too now."
>"Good morning everyone. Last night I managed to devise a one-use spell that allowed me to rescue Caster."
>"I made a deal with an Outer God last night, so now Medea is back."
>"I don't know how it happened, but Medea returned to me last night, I think a third party might've interfered with the girl under the grail."
>Write-in...
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>>4675679
>"Good morning everyone. Caster is here too now."
We can go into specifics after breakfast.
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>>4675679
>"Good morning everyone. I have some good news and some bad news. The good news are: Caster is back with a little help from Crawling Chaos and Merlin showing up last night is no longer big concern. The bad news are: entire reality might be unmade by the end of the week and Alaya, Gaia and Outer gods can only rely on us. And now to proper introductions...
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>>4675679
>"Good morning everyone. Caster is here too now."
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>>4675679
>I made a deal with an Outer God last night, so now Medea is back.
What the fuck? No secrets, enough half-lies.
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>>4675690
Where's the lie?
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>>4675679
>I made a deal with an Outer God last night, so now Medea is back.
We need to explain everything aside from the BB and Godhood stuff.
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>>4675693
1st option is a lie by ommission, 2nd is a full blown lie, and 4th starts off with a bold lie that will bite us in the ass
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>>4675679
>"I made a deal with an Outer God last night, so now Medea is back."
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>>4675679
Good news, everyone! Medea is back and I have some new intel on how we need to prevent the world ending within the week!

Gonna support >>4675687 Or something in the same vein of announcing the news truthfully.

Our allies are not gonna be thrilled about us cutting deals out of this world but I guess there’s no better time than present.
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>>4675687
I think this one is the best. Support.
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>>4675679
>"Good morning everyone. What a fine day."
>Brief pause
>"By the way, the world might be ending in a week and I made a deal with an Outer God last night."
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>>4675679
>>4675687
Support
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>>4675705
>deals out of this world
Great, now I can't stop imagining Nyarly as a used cars salesman.
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>>4675679
"I made a deal with an Outer God last night, so now Medea is back."
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>>4675717
>cars
Books.
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>>4675722
Guess I have a new VN to read through, neat.
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>>4675679
>>4675687
This one has the best dialog. Also we should check on Rin when we have the chance. A sulking Rin is never a good sign, plus QM hinted at something that may be happening to her that will get her out of the rut she is in.
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>>4675687
>>4675679

Supporting
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Calling in fifteen minutes.
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>>4675729
It's great.
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By the way, since the next thing we're going to do is probably storming the temple for a second time. There is probably a way to save all of the Altered servants. Even without Rule Breaker, Ayaka was able to uncorrupt Proto SAlter, and knowing that it was an otome she probably pulled the true love card or some other kind of bs to uncorrupt him. Us having Rule Breaker makes things easier though, theoretically stabbing someone like Iskandar Alter with either Shirou or Medea's Rule Breaker can free him from the Blackening and make him our servant... as long as we have the Mana to sustain him? This is just a head theory that I have though.
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>>4675756
If Iskandar is gonna be anyones servant, we gotta have it be our bro Waver.
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>>4675687
Support. (Forgot to do this in my previous post)
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>>4675811
It is possible to give away command seals to specific people, or produce the book of the false attendant to Waver if you want that to happen.
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Where tf is Rin
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>>4675816
Probably laying in her bed and sulking, or sleeping in since she is not a morning person. We really do need to cheer her up.
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>>4675756
If at least two people can have magic cores then that should be enough to turn into the masters of 7 new masterless servants. Shirou might be able to snipe rule breakers
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>>4675820
Yeah this is kind of important so after this we deal with her and try to make her feel better
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>>4675811
When we're busy taking over Britain with Mordred, Weaver and Iskandar are founding New Macedonia. Mage's Association moves it's HQ to the capital soon afterwards.
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"Good morning everyone!" You cheerfully greet your allies, as the ones who know that Medea shouldn't be present at all stare at her in confusion. "I have some good news to share with you, and... well some bad news as well! The good news is that with a little help from the Crawling Chaos, I managed to get Medea back from Manaka and Merlin is no longer a great concern!" Honestly, how could he be a concern when Manaka might end up destroying all of reality next week? Merlin might be an opponent that you're going to have to deal with, but he's nowhere near that level of threat. You quickly set Betty down on a free chair before you explain things further.

"The... what." Medea repeats in bewilderment, clearly not expecting you have gone to such extremes to get her out of Manaka's clutches. She's probably aware of the Outer Gods even if they weren't exactly that well documented back in her time. Well, you can only imagine she would've been. Though you aren't entirely certain of just what Earthbound Deities like the Greek Gods must've thought about the inter dimensional deities that dwarf them in power by about twenty orders of magnitude.

"Nyarlathotep. But, don't worry about that, for once the Outer God isn't the one who is the threat. No, last night I had a... revelation from him. Which brings me onto our bad news." The room is silent, waiting on your next few words. Obviously everyone who is aware of Nyarlathotep is clearly very worried right now, of course, that seems to be limited to the more supernaturally aware members of your faction. Aoko, Touko, Morgan, Lugh, Arcueid and Medea are all wide eyed right now. "The bad news is that we have about a week before reality unfurls and existence is destroyed utterly as a result of the girl under the temple achieving an apotheosis into an Outer God." There's a long dreadful moment of silence as your words sink in.

"You... You're not joking, are you?" Aoko is the first to get over the shocking declaration. "But... How is the world not aware of this imminent threat?" Her voice is dire, but she still asks a question as if asking for some sort of clarification about how such a thing is being allowed to go on by the will of the planet.
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>>4675824
i just fucking realized that Iskandar and Mordred would get along like two peas in a pod
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"Apparently, the girl set up some bounded fields that have shielded her from the view of Gaia and almost certainly of Alaya as well. Right now, we're all that stand against the end of reality at the hands of this insane girl." You take a deep breath. "I somehow doubt that the other timelines will be spared the effects of this apotheosis either. I believe that the Outer Gods are being that exist above such things as timelines, time should mean very little to beings that live outside of it entirely." Nyarlathotep didn't seem to have any difficulty in snatching even somebody like BB out of her own timeline with apparent ease. You wonder if you could've asked him to do something like move
Scáthach out of the Land of Shadows, though you don't know whether or not she would've appreciated that sort of thing. Still, it's kind of worth thinking about. "Now, with that revealed, can I still count on you all to help me?" Some of your allies might want to spend what might be the last week of their existence in their own way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJXw0lL5-vA

"Fantastic, Wakame-kun. It's just one thing after the other with this damn war, isn't it?" Touko covers her face with her hand before she starts laughing. "Vampires, extra Servants, Outer Gods, the End of Reality! This war really is just the gift that keeps on giving, isn't it? Ah well, I'm not planning on going out quietly. I take it you'll be joining us, Aoko? I doubt you'll be standing by for the End of Reality, right?"

"It's not really the sort of thing I can ignore, is it?" Aoko frowns. "Shiki, would you like to come with me? Your Mystic Eyes of Death Perception might come in useful against this girl trying to unmake creation." Aoko is probably right, you personally didn't want Shiki to feel pressured into coming with you, after all, he's not exactly the sort of guy who'd really go out of his way to save people. He isn't Shirou, and you feel guilty enough already after having barged into his house and been such an enormous hassle. Though you did manage to heal his anemia and hopefully get his Mystic Eyes under control for good.

"I'll... go with you. I can't just do nothing if something like this is going on in the background. I don't really feel like living the next week with the worry that I might cease to exist at any moment." Yeah, you can understand that. Looks like you might've ended up pressuring him into coming with you anyway.
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Arcueid has her arms crossed and an annoyed look on her face as she speaks. "I think we should have a chat about just what sort of entities it is safe to talk to in the future, Shinji. But... I suppose this time I'll let it slide, seeing as the situation was far more dire than I had first imagine it to be." Arcueid takes a breath. "So it turns out you were wrong when you said you were battling to save the world after all, doesn't it?" There's a half-smile on her face. "You were in truth fighting to protect reality itself." Clearly Arcueid isn't happy with herself over the fact that she would've completely overlooked the potential destruction of everything had it not been for you.

"I'm also going too! I've got duties to uphold as an incarnated Elemental, you know? I'd be in a whole heap of trouble if I just ignored something like this!" Lugh gives his affirmation that he's going to be going with you as well. You're glad you'll be able to count on him for aid, he's one of your most powerful allies, after all.

"Advisor... It goes without saying, doesn't it? Of course I'll fight by your side." Mordred keeps her words brief, but she pledges her support to the cause of trying to save the universe. You're glad to have her support, even if you already kind of knew that she wasn't going to just stand by.

Morgan takes a deep breath. "It simply wouldn't do for reality to fall apart, so you can count on my aid." The fairy witch offers you her assistance as well. Unexpected, but you suppose that your words must've even reached Morgan if she's offering her actual aid here of her own accord.

"Well, what sort of a question is that?" Shirou speaks now, apparently annoyed that you felt the need to even ask the question in the first place "Of course Saber and I are going to help! I don't care what the source of your information is, we're the only people who can help save everyone, right?" Saber nods in approval of Shirou's words. Of course the two of them were going to help! Assuming otherwise would be like assuming that water wasn't wet.

"You can count on Avenger, my maids and I." Illya pipes in. "I've wanted to teach this girl a lesson since she tried to steal my Servant, and I'm not about to back out just because she might become powerful enough to destroy everything!" Illya's voice is defiant, she must hate Manaka despite never having once met her thanks to her attempted Servant theft. Not that you can blame her for it, losing a Servant is a truly horrible experience, as you've already found out for yourself thanks to Manaka's actions.
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Sakura raises her voice. "I'm not going to stand on the sidelines either! This girl took Rider from me, and I'm not about to forgive her for that. There's no way I'm letting her do as she pleases and destroy everything!" There's a hint of menace in her voice, and you almost look at Sakura with concern. There's not much at all that can get Sakura mad, but it seems that the potential destruction of everything is understandably one of the things that can make your sister angry.

"I-I'll come as well. Even if it's a god. I won't let them destroy the world!" Satsuki declares with a small amount of confidence. You can't blame her for sounding worried though. She's not really got any sort of confidence in her own abilities yet, even if she's immensely powerful already, and only stands to get stronger.

"Nnnh-" Betty makes a noise, and you turn to her as she slowly starts to open her eyes, having woken of her own accord. "Master, I'm going to help as well!" Looks like she managed to hear what was going on even through her state of slumber.

Ibaraki and Miho, previously standing in a corner of the room, seem to have already decided. "What, are you stupid? Do you really think I'm just going to stand by and let myself be erased by this crazy bitch?" Ibaraki rudely declares. "Nah, count me in for tearing her to shreds!" Well, that was a little uncalled for, but it's nice to have the support at least. Physically, the two girls are tremendously powerful, and will be of great assistance if Manaka tries to use her own Servants against you again.

You turn to Medea, who smiles at you. "Do you even need to ask? I'll be by your side no matter where you go, Master." Medea puts a hand on your shoulder reassuringly, and you sigh in relief. It seems that every single one of your allies is willing to fight by your side now that they know what is truly at stake, and you are truly grateful to each and every one of them.

"Thank you, everyone. Truly." You thank your allies for all agreeing to help you, but then you find your mind wandering. Where exactly are Rin and SHIKI right now? You really need to find them before you set off, after all. Though maybe you can get somebody else to find them? You could even ask Medea to teleport them to you, if you wanted.

>Go looking for Rin and then SHIKI yourself.
>Go looking for SHIKI and then Rin.
>Send somebody out to find the two of them. You aren't quite finished talking. (Who?)
>Ask Medea to teleport the two of them to you.
>Write-in...
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>>4675835
>>Go looking for Rin and then SHIKI yourself.
SHIKI is playing Batman and worst case scenario, he's "fine" he can't die
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>>4675835
>Go looking for Rin and then SHIKI yourself.
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>>4675835
>Go looking for Rin and then SHIKI yourself.
SHIKI's probably hiding from Shiki, Rin's absence is somewhat worrying.

>>4675829
Iskandar would be amazed by Saber's heir being such a great king.

>>4675838
Worst case scenario is he got encased in concrete and thrown off the Mariana trench, but I don't think we're quite there yet.
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>>4675835

>Send somebody out to find the two of them. You aren't quite finished talking. (Who?)
The maids seem best suited. Wouldn't want to spook Rin with teleport if she's tinkering with something sensitive.

I suppose now's as good time as any to do some impromptu planning? The more recent allies need to be told how the last attack went and what we need to prepare for.

Also should we give a call to Miyako before we skip town? Or do we leave her and Monkey King out of this?
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>>4675851
like another anon said, she's not a morning person but she's probably feeling depressed too, no servant and her crush got engaged
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>>4675829
you mean like bros in a brod
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>>4675835
>Go looking for Rin and then SHIKI yourself

In the off chance something goes wrong. I’d rather not lose any of our allies.
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>>4675857
Yeah, I meant worrying about her psychological well-being, not about her possibly being in danger.
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>>4675835
>Go looking for Rin and then SHIKI yourself
Now is the perfect time to go have a heart to heart with Rin and cheer her uo. We're also going to go rescue her servant too so that will give her some more incentive to keep on going. SHIKI is probably keeping watch outside of the Tohno Residence or something, its funny how he's acting like an Assassin class servant.
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>>4675835
>Go looking for Rin and then SHIKI yourself
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Calling in 40 minutes.
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Oh, fuck, I just realised Shirou got engaged YESTERDAY to a woman he's know for a week. On top of all the other crap she's been dealing with. No wonder Rin is not okay.
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>>4675875
less than a week
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>>4675835
>>Go looking for Rin and then SHIKI yourself.
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>>4675835
>Go looking for Rin and then SHIKI yourself.
Rin is either lying depressed in her bad or used Ruby in her room.
SHIKI is certainly doing his Batman impersonation right now.
On the small chance of Rin being in the bathroom I would rather avoid using teleport here.

Proper planning might need to wait before we rendezvous with Waver, Ciel and maybe Enhance.
After it we can name all potential Alter Servants Manaka might have from previous Wars, Prototype and Beast 666. Or in worst case her altering some of our captured allies.
Given the circumstances I can't imagine Gil and Tamamo being uncooperative as well.
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>Go looking for Rin and then SHIKI yourself.
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>>4675835
>>Send somebody out to find the two of them. You aren't quite finished talking. (Sakura)
Go cheer up your sister
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>>4675835
Ask Medea to teleport the two of them to you.
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Do we even have to defeat Manaka or could we just break the stealth bounded fields and have Gaia and Alaya kick her shit in?
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Okay anons so like, bear with me here if this sounds like bullshit but....

Couldn't we like summon our allies from Manaka, all at once? Make a True summoning magic, and grab all of them?
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>>4675984
.....we can try. Also we should attempt to contact Zelretch at somepoint within this week. If we have about a week until reality possibly unfurls itself. I would want to talk to him ASAP. I’m certain theres something he could help us with.
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yk if we can rule break Lancelot, we can get Medea to remove his Madness, she cured Heracles's madness in myth so its in her bag of tricks
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>>4676000
We should probably get Amethyst back then.
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>>4676009
This. Getting back Amethyst and contacting Zelretch is something we should do.
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"Now, I would like to discuss the events that brought us to this point, but the absence of Rin is concerning me. I hate to do this, but could you all please discuss the events among yourselves and make sure that nobody is uninformed of just what has happened so far?" You really would've preferred to have been the one to dictate events to your allies, but you trust that you can leave this in their hands. After all, it is just an exchange of information, all you need for everyone to do is to tell their account of events thus far to each other. There's honestly not that much you were alone for, barring perhaps the appearance of Merlin, but Saber, Mordred, Shirou and Morgan know all about that already, and you have no doubts that Morgan is more aware of Merlin's abilities than perhaps any other magus on the planet.

"Alright. I'm a little worried about Rin too, to be honest, after she asked me to make that... weird sword for her yesterday, she's been acting stranger and stranger." Shirou says with some concern for the girl, and you immediately frown at the implication.

"Weird Sword...? Shirou... She didn't by any chance ask you if you could create a copy of the Jeweled Sword of Zelretch, did she?" While it would be useful for Rin to have such a weapon on her side, it's still worrying that she's acting strangely even with the Jewel Sword. While Rin isn't an especially braggadocios sort of person, she would definitely try to wave the ability to use the Second True Magic in your face.

"Ah! That was the name. Honestly, of all the things I've traced so far, I understood that the least. It was... a weird sword." Shirou just shrugs, apparently not knowing the meaning or relevance behind the sword Rin asked him to trace, could he really not determine it's true usage? How did he even know how to trace it without Illya's memories inherited from Justeaze? Whatever, questions for later. It's more than possible she asked Illya to help as well and Shirou just excised it for the sake of clarity.

"Yes, that's because it is in truth a staff in the shape of a sword." You respond in a deadpan voice. "Regardless, if Rin has the Jeweled Sword, then the question is why exactly is she still acting strangely?" You aren't really certain yourself, is Rin planning something? But what could she be doing? There's nothing that is really springing to mind. If Rin has the Jewel Sword right now, then she's already at least on the level of a Servant! "I need to get to the bottom of this. I trust in your abilities to explain things thoroughly to those currently unaware of the goings on." With that you leave the dining room with haste... You didn't even get to eat any breakfast.
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You begin walking quickly through the halls, you want to find Rin and find out just what she's been up to with her new weapon. After all, if she had such a thing, then wouldn't it have made more sense for her to have revealed it to the rest of the group? It could be important for actually defeating Manaka!

When you reach Rin's room, you find it completely empty. There's no traces of her in the room at all, so you quickly leave the room... Where would Rin be if she isn't in her room...? You feel like you ought to check the-

KRAKOOM

A great explosive noise from below snaps you out of your thoughts. The Basement. You begin racing towards it, whatever the hell Rin is up to, you need to find out now! You quickly reach the door to the room and open it before heading down the steps with as much speed as you are able without tripping. You soon reach the bottom of the stairs and you can hear Rin's voice, strained, frustrated, and exhausted. "Look. It's not going to be permanent, and we've spent a lot of time doing this already. So do me a favor, and get. in. the. Sword." Is she... talking to herself? You can vaguely see her in the dark room, she's hunched over a desk and peering at something.

>"Hey Rin! What's happening?"
>"Need some help?"
>"Everyone is worried about you, you know."
>Remain Silent.
>Write-in...
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>>4676041
>>"Need some help?"
>>"Everyone is worried about you, you know."
She needs Illya to complete the sword
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>>4676046
Not quite.
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>>4676041
>>"Hey Rin! What's happening?"
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I'm gonna call in thirty minutes.
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>>4676041
>"Need some help?"
GET IN THE SWORD RUBY!
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>"Hey Rin! What's happening?"
>"Everyone is worried about you, you know."
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>>4676041
>"Hey Rin! What's happening?"
>"Everyone is worried about you, you know."
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Hopefully when Rin jams her stick into it this sword will stop looking so scuffed.
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>>4676040
>"Hey Rin! What's happening?"
>"Everyone is worried about you, you know."

This.....this seems bad. VERY bad.
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>>4676041
>"Hey Rin! What's happening?"
>"Everyone is worried about you, you know."
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>>4676088
Wait wrong post. Meant to do it on>>4676040
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>>4676088
Wrong.
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>"Hey Rin! What's happening?"
>"Need some help?"

Magical girl Rin sounds like she's going to be a blushing tsundere.
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>>4676041
>>"Hey Rin! What's happening?"
>>"Need some help?"
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"Hey Rin! What's happening?" You cheerily stroll into the dark basement. "Man, this room really does need some better lights in it..." You tut. Seriously, Akiha should install some better lighting down here, or preferably just fill it with concrete. A lot of terrible things have taken place in this basement, after all.

"S-Shinji?! What are you doing in here?!" Rin reacts to your sudden appearance in a typical fashion. Startled and already irritated. You can just tell that Rin is going to be in a fantastic mood today already, looks like she might've started losing out on sleep, favoring magical research instead.

"Obviously I'm checking in on you, everyone is worried about you, apparently you've been acting a little... uh... strangely, recently." You breathe out in exasperation. "I heard from Shirou that he apparently traced you a copy of the Jeweled Sword, so... what are you doing down here?" You try to keep your voice as kind as you can. You don't really want to set Rin's temper off right now, in fact, with things as dire as they are, you don't want your relationship with Rin to remain so... negative at all. The fact that reality might be destroyed entirely has given you something of a wake-up call.

"I'm experimenting with it, and trying to improve it. The model I was given by Shirou wasn't... complete. Every use of it hurts me, so I'm doing what any reasonable magus should in my position..." She glares at the table angrily. "I'm improving it."

"You're a madwoman!" A voice from the top of the table alerts you to the presence of another in the room. There, bolted down with iron bands, is the Kaleidostick Ruby. "You have no idea what you're doing, you can't just force two mystic codes to fuse together because you want them to!" The wand protests to Rin's decision to try to experiment on both it and the Jeweled Sword.

"No, I can't just fuse two Mystic Codes together because you are refusing to cooperate. The theory is absolutely sound, if I have you join together with the Jeweled Sword, you'll become the ultimate Mystic Code of the Second Magic! What part of that don't you understand?" She's got a very strained smile on her face as she tries to talk some sense into the wand.

"I understand perfectly, I just don't want to." Rin loudly grinds her teeth together, and seems to be moments away from just trying to stab Ruby with the Jeweled Sword in order to see what happens"

"Alright, Alright. Both of you. Stop. Ruby, could you please assist Rin? Things are a little too dire for us to be squabbling over things right now, and I can assure you that if you don't give Rin as much assistance as she requires right now, Zelretch will be absolutely livid with you, Ruby." You keep your voice stern as you address the stick.
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"W-what are you talking about? Why would he be angry at me?" Ruby sounds terribly worried as you suddenly speak directly to her, like your few words have managed to have more of an effect on her than an entire speech from Rin would have.

"Because we need all the power we can get right now, otherwise reality as a whole will potentially collapse. Not just this world, not just this timeline, but all of reality." You keep your tone grave as you explain to the wand just how bad things have gotten. "So unless you want to be thought of by Zelretch as not acting when there was a threat to all life in existence, I suggest you give Rin the aid she wants."

The two girls remain perfectly silent for a few minutes, as if both of them are actually trying to determine if your words are true, though as both of them can see that the look on your face is completely stoic and serious, Ruby soon gives in. "Fine, but if I get destroyed by doing this, I'm going to haunt you from the afterlife!"

"You're an artificial personality coded into a magical item, I highly doubt there's going to be an afterlife for you. Or for any of us, if Shinji is correct about the destruction of reality." Rins voice is sarcastic as she responds to the stick. "Now, are you ready to begin?" She sounds fed-up with everything as she asks the stick a question that she must've asked it at least ten dozen times already.

"Fine... But aren't you a little embarrassed by the activation phrase?" The stick has a mocking tone to it's voice even as it admits defeat, like it's managed to get Rin to agree to something truly terrible.

"You were the one who made it up!" Rin yells directly at the stick. Oh yeah, whatever Ruby specified Rin was going to have to do, she's definitely going to have to say something straight out of a magical girl show. You find yourself wanting to watch it quite badly, just for the spectacle.

"Yeah, that's because I thought if I made it embarrassing enough, you wouldn't want to go through with it. But alright, whatever, let's just get this over with." Rin grinds her teeth together again, what a beautiful relationship.

Rin looks at you with pleading eyes, almost as if she's wishing that you left the room and allowed her to finish her project by herself. Man, it must be really embarrassing if she's acting like this. You don't think Rin has ever used those eyes on you before, and you find you may have developed something of a weakness to such looks.

>"I'm staying, I wouldn't miss this for the world."
>"Alright alright, I'll go. I respect your dignity enough for that much at least."
>Pretend to leave but slip on the Shroud of Matthias and watch anyway.
>"I promise not to laugh, if that's any comfort to you."
>Write-in...
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>>4676221
Pretend to leave but slip on the Shroud of Matthias and watch anyway
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>>4676221
>>"I'm staying, I wouldn't miss this for the world."
>>Write-in...
"If it makes you feel any better, I'll go get Amethyst and we can transform together."
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>>4676230
You're a whole update too late, anon.
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>>4676231
>>4676221
Support
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>>4676231
Support. We need magical girl shinji memes.
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>>4676231
HELL YEAH, SUPPORT
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>>4676221
>>4676231
Supporting
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>>4676221
>you find you may have developed something of a weakness to such looks.
Shinji is leaking out again
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The old, "I'll show you mine if you show me yours," eh?
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I will warn you, there will be a dice roll for how this goes if you end up voting for the Magical Shinji option.
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>>4676259
Let the dice gods decide our fate
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>>4676221
>>"Alright alright, I'll go. I respect your dignity enough for that much at least."
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>>4676259
I’m ready WhatIs. I’m ready for MAGICAL GIRL SHINJI
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>>4676259
QM why can't we just become a Mahou Shounen instead of accidentally becoming a tranny?
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>>4676273
I can already see a whole lot of waifus jaw dropping at the sheer....audacity of it. Maybe some "Ara ara" from arc.
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>>4676273
Because Zelretch is an asshole.
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>>4676273
something something od concentration something something conceptual resonance
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>>4676231
Support, Sorry for the double posting guys! Although we couldn't become the beast of alyala we can become magical boy shinji and use our insanity (The sheer "glamour" and ham) to defeat her.
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>>4676259
Let's do it. Mahou Shounen Shinji.
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>>4676231
Support, let's roll the dice.
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>>4676231
>>4676221
Fine I will support this, even though I don't really like the idea of Shinji becoming an accidental tranny. It would at least boost our mana supply to support even more servants and perform more Truth spells on the bright side.
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You know, if we're trying to make RIn less embarrassed this might be another situation where it's good to roll low.
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Rolled 666 (1d666)

>>4676281
But yeah, don't worry, unless you roll a crit fail or something, you'll be perfectly fine.
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>>4676231
Lmao, support
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>>4676308
HOLY FFUCKKCING SHIT WGHHAHTHGS
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>>4676308
HOLY SHIT
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>>4676308
You cheated right?
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>>4676308
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Rolled 1000000 (1d1000000)

>>4676231
Seeing as this has obviously won, even if I might not be able to finish the update...
Give me 1d1000

Best of 5.

The luck of an OP with formatting powers is infinite, I'll have you know.
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>>4676308
Ruby's gonna become an outer god before Manaka, lol
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>>4676308
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Rolled 559 (1d1000)

>>4676322
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Rolled 869654 (1d1000000)

>>4676322
ok you're fucking with us i hate you
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Rolled 31 (1d100)

>>4676322
Come on Nat 100. Our Magical Truth will guide the way!
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Rolled 60 (1d1000)

>>4676322
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Rolled 220 (1d1000)

>>4676322
Oh, it's a d1000. Why the weird huge dice?
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Rolled 669 (1d1000)

>>4676328
>>4676322
I can't read, my roll didn't count
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>>4676328
I asked for 1d1000 anon, that million was just as an example that you can't trust a QM with his original ID to roll a dice.
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Rolled 155 (1d1000)

>>4676322
called it
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>>4676334
nice
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Rolled 405 (1d1000)

>>4676322
MAGICAL GIIIRRRLL POOOWWWEEEEERRRD
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>>4676334
>669
Oh.
Well, it's above average at least?
Should I be cruel, everyone?
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>>4676351
If you need to ask, then yes.
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>>4676351
do your worst
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>>4676351
Go ahead. I would LOVE to go and visit Taiga.
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>>4676351
The dice have spoken and I trust your judgment on this.
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>>4676351
it has the sex number tho
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>>4676351
>Should I be cruel
You should be cool.
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>>4676358
That doesn't help our case in this situation.
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>>4676351
I know its ((current year)) QM, but please don't make Shinji a permanent tranny. Can Truth reverse genderbending?
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>>4676410
Sorry anon, we are gonna need Merlin to at least get our dick back.
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>>4676410
Don't worry, I'm not that cruel.
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>>4676351
Please don't make an above average roll cost us our dick permanently.
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>>4676410
I'd think it would only be for the transformation, otherwise I should have been more vigilant in opposing dumb ideas.
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>>4676410
I think its a good trust building exercise for us and Rin to do something extremely embarrassing at the same time
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>>4676417
Go ahead then, how bad can it be?
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>>4676420
Yeah, the whole point is to be mutually mortified at Zelretch's shenanigan.
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I would be surprised if truth allowed Shinji to genderbend at all.
Putting a male shinji in an embarrassing outfit? Yeah.
Fuck sissification? Nah.
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>>4676467
Normally you'd have resistance to stuff like this, but you're specifically letting your guard down, otherwise odds are that the transformation wouldn't work on any level.
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>>4676467
Just because you could be a girl doesn't mean you would.
Something tells me the harem wouldn't be happy if Shinji traded in his Y chromosome.
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>>4676478
Interesting that Shinji paying attention matters. Something to keep in mind I suppose.
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Its Sakura's birthday
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>>4676507
Get the fish!
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"I wouldn't miss this for the world, Rin." You smirk at the girl, who glares at you. If looks could kill, Rin would be Balor. "Buuut~ I might just have a way to make you feel less awkward about all of this." You have no idea just what you're doing, but you know that you're probably about to make a mistake. A huge mistake. Oh well, you're certain that Rin will end up embarrassing herself more than you will, no matter what the outcome might be. Sure, you miight end up wearing a dress or something, but you won't allow that to get to you. Rin is going to be far more embarrassed by turning into Kaleido-Ruby, you guarantee it!

"What are you getting at here?" Rin raises a tired eyebrow at you, clearly curious as to just what it is you're getting at. Looks like she hasn't worked it out herself just yet. Oh well, maybe you can surprise her?

"Just hold on a second, I need to go and see Touko! Just... don't do anything while I'm gone!" The Kaleidostick on the table gives a salute with its wing to show that it won't, and Rin just sighs when she sees that if she doesn't wait, her wand is going to become uncooperative again.

"Fine, whatever." Rin crosses her arms and frowns at you as you race out of the basement and up the stairs. Quickly heading back to the dining room! If you're fast enough, Rin won't get the bright idea to just go ahead and try to transform anyway!

You make it back in record time, and rapidly approach Touko. "Sorry Shishou but can I please have Amethyst back right now? It's kind of urgent that I get it." You hold your hand out to Touko, who unexpectedly hands you the Kaleidostar without much fuss.

"Sure why not? I've done enough research on the thing now to find out that it's not actively malicious anyway, it's just kind of incompetent. It's probably to do with the age of the artificial spirit inhabiting the Mystic Code, it's not actually got a proper control over its functions yet, so I'd be very careful about-" You start backing out of the room the moment the woman hands you back the Mystic Code. "Wakame-kun? Are you even listening to me?" You've never once been guilty of running off on Touko when she's telling you something, but this is the sort of thing that can't wait, after all, Rin might've taken this opportunity to transform herself!

You race back to the Basement, fairly certain that you just broke the record you set in reaching the dining room on the return trip, and hold up Magical Amethyst. "M-master! You saved me! I knew I could count on you to-"

"Magical Amethyst, you can transform me in the same manner that Magical Ruby can, right?" You speak to the object in the palm of your hand with authority in your tone.

"W-well of course, but I d-don't know if-" The star kind of whimpers a response back to you, but you don't want to hear excuses right now so you cut her off, this is going to be hilarious, Rin won't have any excuse not to show you her transformation now!
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>>4676507
Happy B-day.
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"Do it." You order it to go ahead with the transformation, after all, you're certain it'll be far more embarrassing for Rin to become a magical girl than it will be for you to become a magical boy or whatever.

"I-if that's what you want, Master, but first you'll need to say the activation phrase..." The emblem looks like it's kind of deflating in your hand now, and you frown at it, why was this thing built with confidence issues?

"Which is...?" You question the star. You really don't care about saying something embarrassing.

"W-well, it's the... the default right now. You'll just need to say 'Kaleido-Amethyst, Activate!' and... the transformation will occur" Huh, sounds simple enough. You can't help but feel like you're missing something very important here.

"Really?! That's the default phrase? That's so... unfair!" Rin seethes at the wand on the table. "Fine, let's just get this over with if you have to watch..." She sighs, and you can almost hear her soul trying to escape her body, before she suddenly poses, her hand partially covering her face, which is disguising a scowl. "Second True Magic - Knight Class Mode: Kaleidosword!" She begins reciting her lines, her eyes are dead and emotionless as she starts spinning on the spot. "I shall be the protector of all dimensions! Evildoers shall beware my power! The power of the mighty Kaleidosword-Ruby!" There's a flash of brilliant white as the transformation occurs, and the wand on the table fuses together with the sword in Rin's hand, which morphs into a large red rectangular looking blade with the Jeweled Sword at it's center. The transformation now complete, Rin stands there looking at you, complete with cat ears and a cat tail. "Kaleido-Ruby, is... here to save the day." There's another audible teeth grinding noise as she finally completes her power-up sequence, and the large sword-like object she's holding sprouts brilliant wings and you feel like applauding her. That was quite the display.
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"Right, now it's my turn. 'Kaleido-Amethyst Activate!'" You utter the simple transformation spell, and are immediately suffused completely in bright white light originating from the Kaleidostar, you feel... strange. You can feel your clothing change, but... something else too. Your own transformation sequence is nowhere near as flashy as Rin's, so you soon find yourself standing face to face with Kaleido-Ruby, who... immediately burst out laughing to such a degree that she trips and actually begins to roll on the floor uncontrollably as she is overwhelmed by her own emotions.

That... wasn't what you expected.

"W-wait a second! Hold on... This wasn't supposed to happen, just give me a second and I'll fix it!" Amethyst blurts out in complete terror, for some reason. Why do you have a really really bad feeling about what just happened...?

>Look down at your body.
>Find a mirror.
>Ask Rin what's so funny.
>Just do nothing. Trust Amethyst to fix whatever the problem is.
>"Oh no."
>Write-in...
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>>4676526
>>Ask Rin what's so funny.
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>>4676526
>>Ask Rin what's so funny.
>>Find a mirror.
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>>4676526
>Grab your crotch
As long as we still got that we're good.
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Happy birthday, Sakura.
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>>4676531
OH NO, HE'S COMING
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>>4676526
>"Oh no."
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>>4676531
Well, we're the trap in the literal sense for merlin now.
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>>4676526
>>Ask Rin what's so funny.
>>Find a mirror.
At the very least, hopefully we get along with Rin better after this.
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>>4676526
>Ask Rin what's so funny.
>Find a mirror.
I wonder how many of the women would stick with him if this was permanent.
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>>4676526
>"Oh no."


>>4676531
H-hayai
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>>4676526
>Look down at your body.
>Find a mirror.
>write in..
>”Y’know I was expecting a magical girl transformation but I didn’t mean to become an ACTUAL GIRL”
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>>4676539
Mutual embarrassment brings people closer together, plus she actually has something over on us after years of just being straight up better than her and having everything she wants
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>>4676526
>Ask Rin what's so funny.
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>>4676559
All of my nopes
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>>4676559
>file no longer exists 404
Wtf.
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Sure would be bad if there were somebody else who was watching this go on with a penchant for stuff like this and a bad habit of falling for women.

Anyway, good night everyone, I hope you enjoy the mess you've made.
You did this.
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>>4676564
i saw it QM you can't take that away from me
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>>4676559
merlin
merlin no
MERLIN NO, BAD MERLIN!
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>>4676562
Are you sure?

>>4676563
I made a typo, OK?
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>>4676559
>99/100?
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>>4676559
>Merlin falling in love with trans-Shinji
W-What?! I know he has a thing for Futas and Reverse Traps but still.... Is this how we get Grand Caster to join us, by literally becoming a tranny?
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>>4676569
begone succubus
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>>4676570
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>>4676569
No, we are not having r63 wizard sex with Merlin.
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>>4676570
I think Merlin is physically incapable of falling in love
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By the way, I hope that Waver brings brings Ayaka with him so that Gilgamesh is more inclined to help us in the literal raid battle against Dark God Manaka(s). Aya can also summon Proto-kun if Manaka had not already taken advantage of their being no more second Saber.
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what was the deleted file?
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>>4676564
TASUKETE
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>>4676582
Just a Merlin face.
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>>4676582
he just misspelled something
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I had A LOT of fun writing that.
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>>4676595
You sick, sadistic monster!
I loved it.
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You're really lucky that I'm not so cruel as to make something like this permanent.
Depending on your choices here, this little problem might even be resolved by the very next update.
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>>4676608
we'd have to go gay or steal Shirou away from Saber
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>>4676610
Or have hot lesbian sex with Medea
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>>4676610
No love for the two Shiki?
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>>4676614
Shirou is taken so it would be funnier
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Altura keeps getting cucked.
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>>4676620
That's what happens when you start an arranged marriage with the town bikepump.
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>>4676614
>>4676610
I was about to say that either Shikis could be good "gay routes". We did sort of cuck Shiki out of the Arc and Ciel routes after all. Would it really be gay if Shinji was "technically" a woman though? The most I would use trans Shinji for is seducing Merlin onto our side though.
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>>4676629
>We did sort of cuck Shiki out of the Arc and Ciel routes after all
his sister and her maids want to fuck him and he can live an above average lifespan now, we did him a major solid when you think about it

Your forgetting that Merlin can shapeshift and we know what Proto Merlin looks like
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You know, there's something inherently hilarious that the first thing Shinji does upon finding out that he has a week to save reality is to accidentally turn himself into a woman.
At least your relationship with Rin got a huge plus, and she'll no longer have confidence problems as Kaleido-Ruby to boot!
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>>4676646
>At least your relationship with Rin got a huge plus
Completely worth it
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Is this gonna just be a side effect every time Shinji transforms with the Amethist?
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>>4676655
considering that Amethyst got something wrong and Shinji felt like something was missing, i would say no
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>>4676646
The things we do for our friends.
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>>4676646
I count this as a complete success.
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>>4676646
It was definitely worth it to cheer Rin up. She's the kind of girl that puts on strong front but is actually the most fragile emotionally.
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>>4676646
So.....99/100 now?
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>>4676672
lets not go crazy here, she might be a little gay but she's not gonna fuck us yet
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>>4676646
Maybe now she'll have enough willpower and firepower to not have a defenseless anus
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>>4676695
Bold talk for a man in your circumstances, anon.
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>>4676701
skiddaddle skidoodle we truth back the noodle
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>>4676704
>implying Merlin isn't into that.
Anon...
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>>4676714
Guess we'll have to impale him with our spear.
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>>4676526
>"Oh no."

>Shinji is the best girl now
We should probably redo the poll.
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Speaking of swords, remember that time we made a sword that removes concepts?
I have a feeling that that might come in handy coming up on the final fight.
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>>4676695
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>>4676714
WhatIs, what would have happened on crit?
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>>4676726
i assume we wouldn't turn into a woman
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>>4676726
You would've ended up getting a set of Rainbow Rank Mystic Eyes.
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>>4676726
Amethyst would have got gud.
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>>4676743
ain't no fucking way dude, no goddamn fucking way, are you implying there's a chance?
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>>4676746
To get Rainbow class Mystic Eyes?
There's always been a chance.
That particular set would've been gained by glimpsing every potential timeline at once.
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>>4676743
>>4676750
Well. That goes into the pile of really great missed opportunities alongside taking part in Case Files.

Can you also tell us what were other options in the dream? Unless it is huge spoiler of course.
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>>4676750
Imagine if by trying to build bridges with Rin and trying to make her more comfortable with her powers we went and completely upstaged her with Second Magic themed rainbow eyes.
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>>4676760
its a good thing we didn't, I don't want to completely destroy her confidence
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>>4676750
>That particular set would've been gained by glimpsing every potential timeline at once.
We can still do this then, 2nd Magic bullshit and working with Rin can get us to this point but i'm not entirely sure how
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>>4676769
I wouldn't go chasing after something like that, especially when we have all this crazy Truth shit we barely understand.
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>>4676769
We might roll a 1000 in something else, it's not impossible on a best of 5.
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>>4676775
yeah but cool eyes

>>4676776
its not impossible, just implausible
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>>4676776
I'm glad that it's a 1/1000 roll to get something nuts instead of a 1/100 roll, also that those rolls come up rarely.
It keeps things from turning into constantly crit-fishing for powerups like some other quests I could name.
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>>4676781
Nothing is going to beat old Improvaizen Quest in terms of weird crits and derailment from rolls.
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>>4676526
>Facepalm
>Just do nothing. Trust Amethyst to fix whatever the problem is

Worth it if it made Rin feel a bit better.

Also, Happy Birthday, Sakura!
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>>4676526
>"Oh no."
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>>4676781
we did roll 92 on a d100 or something for magic circuits at the beginning of the quest if i remember correctly.
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>>4676526
>"Oh no."
>"if you don't fix this i'm removing you from reality."
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>>4676757
That is a spoiler yes.

Honestly I'm surprised none of you have figured out what Rin is actually trying to do.
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>>4677169
What do you mean, working on the sword? Or specifically trying to slap ruby in it?
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>>4677174
No.
I mean what she's planning now.
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>>4677175
>I mean what she's planning now.
Well now I'm afraid.
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>>4677175
>I mean what she's planning now.
Become meguca?
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>>4677176
Now why on Earth would you be afraid of Rin?
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>>4677176
I mean, she wouldn't do something as rash as using ruby and the sword to go after Manaka on her own, would she?
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>>4677178
You both already did that.
Just thank your lucky stars Rin is too tech illiterate to know how to operate a camera.
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>>4677184
Not quuiiiite~.

Find out the exciting Truth in a few hours when I write the update.
Until then, see if you can guess.
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>>4677187
Challenge Saber in a duel for Shirou?
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>>4677192
As humorous as that would be, I doubt Akiha would appreciate her mansion being levelled.
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>>4677187
Is Rin going to Hollow Ataraxia us?
>>4676526
"Oh no."
Well that went poorly.
Let's ask Rin if we're attractive at least.
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>>4677187
Wait. Merlin is going to create Magical Girl team and Shinji and Rin are part of it? We are having PRISMA filler now?
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>>4677200
>Well that went poorly.
We managed to make Rin laugh and break out of her gloomy mood. That's a win for me.
>>4677195
Well with near infinite mana I can see her trying to summon another Servant.
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>>4677202
We need to get Luvia in on this!
>>4677203
If she has near infinite mana mana can't she summon near infinite Servants?
Why would she bother upgrading the sword anyway if Ruby and the Jewel Sword both give unlimited mana?
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I've got it!
Rin is going to use the Second Magic to summon her own Shirou!
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>>4677213
But she already has her own Shirou!
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>>4677216
Clearly she wants another Shirou who is less moody.
She's going to construct a Reverse Harem of Shirous.
The absolute madwoman.
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>>4677213
>>4677216
It will be SHINJI, Beast of Alaya.
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>>4677218
Oh god.
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>>4677217
>EMIYA
>Kaleid!Shirou
>Emiya Gohan Shirou
>Carnival Phantasm Shirou
How many more will she summon?
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>>4677222
FemShirou and Muramasa.
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>>4677222
Muramasa and Hollow Ataraxia "Shirou".
Nameless Archer
EMIYA Alter
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>>4677226
You know what, it would be actually cool if she does summon Murasama.
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>>4677213
>Rin rolls the maleprotag gacha...
>...she gets vanilla Shinji
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>>4677228
I'd rather see her use the Second to steal Ishtar or Ereshkigal from Chaldea.
Gil might be mad.
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>>4677229
Hassan Shinji.
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>>4677233
I don't think she knows they exist.
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>>4677235
She will.
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>>4677233
She need Space Ishtar.
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Imagine playing FGO and just having your BB Pele, Ishtar AND Ereshkigal disappear without warning.
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What if we use the Second Magic to kidnap Fou and throw him at Primate Murder?
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>>4677249
Or better idea.
What if we threw him at Merlin?
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>>4677249
I wonder, does primate murder’s authority extend to Jaguar Man?
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Which Outer Gods do you want Rin to be host to?
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>>4677254
It's a divine spirit in a human vessel so... yes?
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>>4677256
Shub-Niggurath.
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I feel like we should use this ability to transform into a woman to our advantage in the future.
It's too useful to ignore.
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>>4677270
Seduce Merlin?
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>>4677270
Remember, this was the result of an above average roll. What happens on a crit fail if we spam this?
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>>4677275
And Gilgamesh.
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>>4677277
I'm gonna guess we'll need a visit to Doctor Merlin.
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>>4677280
Shinji is now an ugly magical girl. Permanently.
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>>4677282
Honestly I feel like we'd permanently turn into the world's greatest beauty or something.
For us that's far worse.
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>>4677283
Next time Nyarly asks if Shinji is single.
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>>4677294
I mean, I would.
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I want to ruin her body with kids.
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>>4677305
Huh, I thought I was the only Sakurafag left.
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>>4677305
The wormpit already groomed her for that kind of thing anon
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>>4677305
She's got the mother of all life sleeping in her.
I imagine her affinity for having children is maxed out now.
Though I'm not sure if I want a clutch of potential Half-Beasts.
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So assuming we do end up with a harem with a whole bunch of kids...
Who's the favourite?
Our first daughter?
Our first son?
Medea's kid?
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>>4677309
>Who's the favourite?
See >>4675412
>Our first daughter?
Betty is already our daughter.
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>>4677311
Betty doesn't count.
Though she is best daughter.

Did all the lolifags die?
Illyafags seem to have just upped and vanished.
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>>4677314
Illya loses her presence when she isn't the strongest piece on the board.
We're all about the housewifes now.
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>>4677320
I feel bad for her loss of any relevance.
Let's see if the Dragonblood can fix her lifespan and maybe make her strong enough to help.
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>>4677309
I don't know how things will turn out, but I'm looking forward to putting some dhampirs into Satsuki.
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>>4677309
I want to put babies in arcuied's womb.
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>>4677325
Based Sacchin deserves to be happy and our main wife. She even declared us as her boyfriend and maybe future husband in front of three incredibly powerful women who were also pining for us.
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Right, well good morning everyone!

Calling in 37 minutes.

Are you looking forwards to dealing with the consequences of your actions?
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>>4677352
>Are you looking forwards to dealing with the consequences of your actions?
Aren't we always?
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>>4677352
>Are you looking forwards to dealing with the consequences of your actions?
That's what we come here to do.
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>>4677352
>Are you looking forwards to dealing with the consequences of your actions?
Rin’s smiling and that’s what counts.
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>>4676526
>Ask Rin what's so funny.
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>>4677352
>Are you looking forwards to dealing with the consequences of your actions?
I have seen the scenario before to be honest.
But seriously worst case scenario will just force us to escape from Merlin`s rape dungeon or stale time for the rescue.
And we are totaly free to just blame it on Zelretch and his pranks. One or two funny jokes will hardly affect Shinji after all previous encounters.

Unless you have some really fun stuff prepared.
>>4677294
>>4677300
Instead of Dead End WhatIs writes Lovecraftian pulp story with grand twist being that all characters are not humans and terrifying images of Monsters From Outer Darkness which driven people mad are just family photo of a bit tired looking FemShinji and happy BBhotep.
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>>4677352
>Are you looking forwards to dealing with the consequences of your actions?
Of course. I await Rin laughing her ass off at us becoming a girl
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>>4677374
Shit man is this what Primate Murder looks like when it isn’t Fou.

(This doujinshi has been fucking great so far thanks for making me find it anon)
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>Ask Rin what's so funny
>>4676528
>>4676560
>>4677359

>Ask Rin what's so funny while you try to find a mirror.
>>4676529
>>4676539
>>4676544

>Crotch Inspection (Self)
>>4676530

>"Oh no."
>>4676536
>>4676546
>>4676718
>>4677042
>>4677200

>"Oh no." and demand Amethyst fix you immediately.
>>4677134

>Look down at body, find mirror, make light of situation.
>>4676549

>Facepalm
>>4677012
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>>4677381
The other two similar ones by the same author are just as hilarious and surprisingly related to our current situation.
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You realize at that very moment what must've happened. There's only one possible thing that could've happened that would cause Rin to react in such a way... "Oh no." You squeak out, your voice having changed to be one far more feminine than it was before. "Amethyst! What did you do!?" You yell at the Kaleidostar that starts to back away from you, and you wince in embarrassment at your own feminine voice.

"W-w-well I... I-" Amethyst almost looks like it's about to lose all structural integrity and melt into a blob of liquid as it stresses out over just what it has managed to do to you.

"It made you adorable! Ahahahahahahahahahaha!" Rin manages to recover enough to get back on her feet, but there are still tears of laughter in her eyes and she's not stopped laughing at you just yet. Hold on a second... Rin's at least a couple of inches taller than you right now as well! She takes a deep breath as she tries to get control over her own emotions, and it works to calm her for a moment. "Magical Girl Shinji!" For a moment. Just the reminder of what she's witnessed is enough to make Rin almost collapse to the floor again with laughter.

"I-it's not that funny! OK?!" You shout at Rin, and your voice only seems to make her laugh harder. "Please tell me this isn't going to be permanent, Amethyst." You plead with the Kaleidostar hovering just out of your reach now, it seems to be expecting some sort of punishment for what it did.

"Just... hold on a second, I'm just working on the reversal procedure now!" Amethyst is clearly doing something, and you really wish that it was driven by some sort of malicious attitude and wasn't just completely and horribly incompetent. At least if it were actually malicious you wouldn't feel bad about getting angry at the damn thing.

"How long will that take?" You hope beyond all hopes that it's not going to be very long, you don't know if you could deal with an hour of being stuck like this, though even if you were to be stuck like this for a while, you at least find some comfort in the knowledge that Ciel left you with the Shroud of Matthias.

"About... five minutes?" That's... not that long. Though you can only hope that the damn thing gets it right this time!

"Oh thank god." You breathe a sigh of relief. Soon this nightmare will be over. You've not even bothered to check your body physically yet out of the terror of what you might find... or in this case, what you might now find. "Y-you better not tell anyone about this, Rin!" It's horribly strange for a voice that is fundamentally not your own yet is still your own to be coming out of your body, and you don't know if you'll ever be able to get used to such a thing. Thankfully, after this ordeal is over, you'll not have to go through this ever again!
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"Would you prefer it be our little secret then, Shinji-chan?" Rin is clearly only just managing to hold herself back from another laughing fit. "I can't believe that you didn't see that coming!" You never thought a day would come where Rin would be able to laugh at you and all you can do in response is pout at her angrily. You can't even bring yourself to get angry as Rin mocks you. You... totally deserve it after what happened. "But... I'll keep this a secret, after all, I can't hold it over your head if everyone already knows about it, can I?" Rin gives you a sinister smile, and you shudder. Was she always this intimidating? "Oh! You haven't even seen what you look like yet, have you?" Rin quickly grabs something from one of her pockets and throws it at you. Wait a minute, she's wearing her Kaleido-Ruby uniform, so why does she have anything in her pockets right now anyway?

You grab the object out of the air before you look at it, and you see a an image on the object. Looking at you is a beautiful short blue haired girl with deep blue eyes, easily as beautiful as somebody like Rin if not more so! Her choice of cat ears for hair accessories is a little strange, but even so a girl like this would probably be the unchallenged school ido- wait a minute, this is a mirror. This is You. Rin actually giggles this time as she sees the look on your face change as your brain caught up to what was actually going on.

You've got some time before Amethyst is ready with the reversal spell, so you've probably got time to talk to Rin about something while you're... a girl. God damn it it's weird to even think that. You can only hope that Rin keeps her word and that knowledge of this incident never spreads outside of the room.

>Ask Rin what she's planning to do with her new Kaleidosword while you wait for Amethyst to fix you.
>Tell Rin that you're glad that you managed to cheer her up.
>Try to embarrass Rin, ask her something uh... girly.
>Test out some of your powers as a... magical girl instead of talking to Rin.
>Write-in...
Wow I can't believe 4chan just ate the entire text
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>>4677441
>>Tell Rin that you're glad that you managed to cheer her up
>>Write in
Try and build up her confidence to tell Shirou how she feels
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>>4677441
>Ask Rin what she's planning to do with her new Kaleidosword while you wait for Amethyst to fix you.

Probably better not to stress test the Amethyst while it’s working on reversal. We can test the powers once it’s done and we’ve confirmed transformation is, eh, reversible enough.
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>>4677441
>Try to embarrass Rin, ask her something uh... girly.
That's why you write up everything in notepad first, right What?
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>>4677441
>Tell Rin that you're glad that you managed to cheer her up.
>Ask Rin what she's planning to do with her new Kaleidosword while you wait for Amethyst to fix you.

I still count this as a complete success. IF it is reversible in 5 minutes with no other side-effects.
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>>4677454
I use Google Docs, but yeah
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>>4677441
>"Hey, I'm kinda hot."
>Ask Rin what she's planning to do with her new Kaleidosword while you wait for Amethyst to fix you.
>Tell Rin that you're glad that you managed to cheer her up.
Don't let Rin take the upper hand.
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>>4677441
>Tell Rin that you're glad that you managed to cheer her up.
>Ask Rin what she's planning to do with her new Kaleidosword while you wait for Amethyst to fix you
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>>4677441
>Tell Rin that you're glad that you managed to cheer her up.
>Ask Rin what she's planning to do with her new Kaleidosword while you wait for Amethyst to fix you.
>Test out some of your powers as a... magical girl
>Try floating/flying and light Reinforcement
I am curious how much power we got out of it.
Easy tasks should not overload Amethyst and we can do the talking while performing basic tricks.
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>>4677441
>Tell Rin that you're glad that you managed to cheer her up.
>Ask Rin what she's planning to do with her new Kaleidosword while you wait for Amethyst to fix you
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>>4677470
>Easy tasks should not overload Amethyst
Would you bet your dick on it?
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>>4677470
>>4677441
Support
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>>4677441
>>Tell Rin that you're glad that you managed to cheer her up.
>>Try to embarrass Rin, ask her something uh... girly.
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>>4677475
It is not like we are trying to use Truth to imitate Card Install out of our memory.
Amethyst is incompetent but not that much to fail basic routine check.
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Call in 30
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>>4677488
>Amethyst is incompetent but not that much
Sounds like the perfect setup to discover that yes, Amethyst is really that incompetent. I mean, when has she demonstrated otherwise?
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>>4677501
Teleporting and transformation hasn't turned Shinji into Chaos Spawn or Shoggoth.
Plus it just feels wrong to walk away from power up with nothing.
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>>4677441
>Tell Rin that you're glad that you managed to cheer her up.
>Ask Rin what she's planning to do with her new Kaleidosword while you wait for Amethyst to fix you.
>"it is weird that i find myself really attractive right now? i wonder if its just my ego talking"
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>>4677488
i wonder if we could have asked Nyar-chan for the class cards in place of medea.
Not that i would ever do that, just asking if it was possible.
also we could use gilgamesh install to cockblock gil from using EA
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>>4677441
>>4677462
This. All this being flustered shit is kinda annoying.
It's reversible so get a hold of yourself and try to enjoy it while it lasts.
Now YOU'RE the dangerous girl!
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>>4677511
>Plus it just feels wrong to walk away from power up with nothing.
We don't have nothing. If Amethyst can revert this and we can set Mahou Shounen Shinji as the baseline to prevent future Genderswaps, we have a fairly decent power boost in our hands.
Hopefully we won't have to revert for awhile once it's fixed and we can practice with Rin.
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>>4677441
>>4677462
Support.
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>>4677470
support
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>>4677518
>Mahou Shounen Shinji
Why not Mahou Shoujo Shinji? Easier on the eyes anyway.
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>>4677470
>>4677441
Support
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>>4677470
Also, supporting.
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>>4677516
If we ever use Amethyst again I hope that WhatIs just allows us to roll for Class Cards and pick one of the results.
>>4677518
>we can set Mahou Shounen Shinji as the baseline to prevent future Genderswaps
Is it even possible without Zelretch`s help? After all he knowingly added cat ears.
>we have a fairly decent power boost in our hands
I would love for it to be attuned to our martial arts and reinforcement.
Getting Strength and Agility to A just to tear Rizo appart on our next meeting.
In worst case scenario we can always give old man one score review on his mystic codes.
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>>4677517
>Now YOU'RE the dangerous girl!
Changes nothing, we're still getting ravished, if not more so.
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>>4677544
Not if grow futa cock.
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>>4677544
Just remembered that scene.
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>>4677547
Should we ask Medea to help dress Saber for her wedding?
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>>4677545
>>4677547
Just saying, if we want to avoid awakening anything in Shinji, we should stay away from the girls until our body goes back to normal.
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>>4677547
Playing a dangerous game turning into a girl in front of so many women that love domming other women
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>>4677547
I don't know who has the best smug face Medea getting Artoria to herself. Or Luvia knowing that Kaleido Ruby wears diapers.
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>>4677548
no I don't want her to steal Shirou's waifu
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>>4677552
Who said anything about stealing?
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>>4677549
>>4677550
Come to think about it. Using Amethyst could have send a ripple through our connection to our Servants.
>>4677548
She probably enjoy picking dresses for her.
>>4677552
Medea has Mordred. Theoretically at least.
>>4677551
Defenseless anus is no joke, anon. It is serious medical condition.
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>>4677552
Two words: Saber Alter.
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>>4677566
Saber Alter being a thing is weird.
All the other Alters being servants who died in the previous war implies that the servants we see now are the ones that died back then, but if that's the case why would there be a Saber Alter if the one we have is the same one from the fourth war?
I have a hunch that Manaka's altered servants are entirely of her own creation and aren't actually the same as the ones that died in the fourth, which means that she could summon even more minions by the time we see her next.
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>>4677583
Gilgamesh Alter
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>>4677583
>>4677590
Yeah, exactly. I tried before to raise the possibility Manaka has a spare Gil up her pocket, but up till now it's been entirely ignored. We are way too confident with what we already know and never even try to speculate and plan about the unknown. And I think that mentality's the source of all our failures so far.
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>Tell Rin you're glad that you cheered her up and try to build up her confidence
>>4677444

>Ask Rin what she's doing with her new Kaleidosword
>>4677449

>Try asking something girly
>>4677454

>Tell Rin you're glad you cheered her up and ask her what she's up to now
>>4677456
>>4677465
>>4677472

>"Hey I'm kind of hot!" Ask Rin what she's doing, and tell her you're glad you cheered her up.
>>4677462
>>4677517
>>4677519

>Basically everything
>>4677470
>>4677481
>>4677520
>>4677523
>>4677527

>Tell Rin you're glad you managed to cheer her up before trying to ask something girly
>>4677485

>Tell Rin you're glad you managed to cheer her up, ask about the sword and also reveal your attraction to yourself
>>4677513

Did I miss anything or wrongly order a vote?
I don't think so, but if I have please say something.
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>>4677597
Well if you want to start a discussion about plans for the future, by all means do so.
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>>4677597
A Gilgamesh Alter would likely be very willing to use Ea so even Shirou and EMIYA can't just UBW him to death, there's also the fact that they have a near unlimited power source so someone like Saber Alter could just spam Excalibur Morgan. I think spamming Rule Breaker is the way to go
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>>4677604
What do you think I'm trying to do by rising the possibility, again?

>>4677611
Yeah, our current ace in the hole is Gil teleporting next to us with the bracelet. If he gets immediately hard-countered by Gil altered we'll be panicking like a headless chicken, again. We need plans on what to do when our original plan inevitably goes wrong, even if it doesn't go wrong for that specific reason.

Personally, I favor finding a way to snatch the captives and bringing down the Bounded Fields so Gaia can squish Manaka without us ever confronting her directly.
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>>4677622
With so many powerful Casters and mai we can try to set up even bigger Bounded Field than the one Manaka has and try to overpower her with it. Focus control around the leylines with siege encirclement around the temple.
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>>4677625
That's a good idea too, I like it.

We should start brainstorming with those powerful Casters and determine the feasibility of our options.
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>>4677622
What we really need is a plan to directly challenge Manaka.
She's built up a lot of power with her connection to the Root, but Truth might be what we need to bridge the gap with it's capability to nullify impossible concepts; after all, if Truth can defeat an "unkillable demon" I'm sure it could do the same for an "invincible shield" or "unblockable attack".
I doubt we can beat Manaka as she is now without using her connection to the Root to disable her, and for that we'd need to immobilize her.
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>>4677635

We also need to not forget that we need to deal with all the other Servants that Manakas are already confirmed to have.

There's issue of Manakas ability to move people around and capture them we've yet to neutralize. We have one bracelet to ward against this, presumably, and hopefully now two zelretch jewels that could do the same. We need to secure some protection for our allies as well.

And then there's issue of Grail, and Angra maniyu. What state it is currently in, and what happens to the various Servants once it's destroyed? It would be hollow victory if they unraveled once we beat the boss. And what happens to lesser grails in these circumstances?
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>>4677655
And we still need a way to immediately get her captives back before we even think of storming the temple.
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>>4677660
Hopefully Medea know something about how her confiscation field works.
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>>4677635
>>4677655
We can try giving Manaka the Roa Treatment if we can get better of her for 10 seconds. Gil might be able to give us an opening with his chains.
>>4677660
If we can locate them inside we could always try to overbuff Medea and try to teleport them out.
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>>4677669
>Gil might be able to give us an opening with his chains.
As long as he's not currently busy fighting his doppelganger.
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>>4677673
We should also be prepared for Gilgamesh turning on us the exact moment Manaka is neutralized. Presumably Avenger is a hard counter against him specifically so perhaps that would be enough.
In fact, if Gilgamesh is taking things seriously, he might take a chance to strike against Avenger or Illya even before Manaka is dealt with so keeping these apart to begin with might be called for.
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>>4677673
>>4677679
Arc is at 50% right now.
Unless Gil was chugging that Orphan Juice like no tomorrow he might run out of steam.
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>>4677679
I'm not that worried about Gilgamesh. We've been planning this war for years assuming he'd be the final boss. We have Avenger, Shirou with his UBW on steroids, and every other ally and power we've gathered.
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Crap.
Sakura still has piece of the Grail inside so she has the connection. Intertwined with Tiamat.
Lets hope Manaka is unaware of it or will not try to draw something from it.

Oh and lets do quick search for Grandpa after we return to Fuyuki. For some fun family reunion before main event.
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"Well Rin, I'm glad that I managed to cheer you up." You smile at Rin, your own voice is still kind of throwing you off. "I much prefer you when you're acting your usual self, like right now, you know?" For some reason, you seem to be acting nicer to Rin than you usually would, could it be a side effect of your current form that you just feel like being nicer to people? You're going to strangle Zelretch for this... Wait, Dead Apostles don't need to breath air, do they? Well, at least you still seem to be capable of feeling negative emotions, so it's not like you've been brainwashed or something... you hope.

"Cheer me up? Shinji-chan, you've made my entire year." Rin says with a beaming smile. "But... I am curious about this transformation of yours, has the biological change of your body altered your mind, or is your mental state unaffected by biology...?" Rin starts to look at you like you're a science experiment or something, and it makes you feel more than a little awkward. "Without the intervention of the Second True Magic, would this form be permanent...?" You're really not liking where she's going with this! You need to change the topic, before she decides to test that hypothesis!

"R-Rin! What were you planning on doing with uh... that thing." You point to the huge weapon that Ruby and Zelretch have transformed into, the huge set of angelic wings have shrunk down to comically small wings poking out of the sides of the weapon. It's almost as big as Rin herself is! The sides of the weapon appear to be razor sharp, though in the center of the strange rectangular weapon there's what is very clearly some sort of gun. For some reason, this weapon looks vaguely familiar, but you just can't place where you might've seen it.
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"Oh, the Kaleidosword?" Rin smirks. "Well, I've obviously not had the chance to test it out yet, but I'm hoping it will be useful for fighting the bitch underneath the temple... I'm not going to say anything else until I find out just what I can do with it, this is... kind of an experimental weapon." Rin doesn't actually sound all that confident in the blade for some reason now. "Well, at least the fusion process seems to have managed to get Ruby to shut up for some time. She's having to assimilate and create new functions, if memory serves." Well, at least you know now why Ruby wasn't joining Rin in laughing at you. "I can't do anything until she's finished with that, and I have no idea when she'll be done. But by my calculations, I expect a four hundred and fifty percent potential increase over using either the Sword or a Kaleidostick individually when it comes to pure attack power, the ability to charge up an attack indefinitely in order to make best use of my infinitely replenishing magical energy in this form and at the very least, additional control over the Multi-Dimensional Refraction Phenomenon for offensive purposes over the original Jeweled Sword." So... it's incredibly impressive then? Man, if Zelretch were here, he'd be tremendously pleased with Rin's abilities as a magus... and you'd be trying to strangle him.

"Well, that's... certainly more than I was expecting... That's one hell of a weapon, Rin." Honestly, what she's created is something that could be said to be on the level of an EX-Rank Anti-World Noble Phantasm, or at least close to it. The Jeweled Sword alone was near enough to that level, but that thing is on a whole different level! "I hope you don't mind if I... test out some of the powers I've been granted by my transformation?"

"Oh please, go ahead, Shinji-chan." You don't really like how Rin is talking about this, and you know that she is never ever going to let you live this down. She created an ultimate weapon, and you turned yourself into a girl. You almost blush in embarrassment at the complete reversal of how things usually are between you and Rin. You suppose this is just what happens when you act hastily...

Still, you aren't about to allow that to stop you from testing out this new body, and while you don't feel like your body is as naturally powerful and as honed as you were before, you can feel your magic circuits being continuously infused with an unlimited amount of magical energy, and you can tell just from that much that you'll be capable of reinforcing yourself above the limit you had in your untransformed state. "W-well, just so long as you don't start drawing too much power, it'll be OK if you test out your... uh, capabilities." Amethyst gives you the go-ahead as you reinforce your body with some of your now unlimited magical energy, and you easily reach your normal peak of reinforcement and beyond! At this level, you'd be able to fight against even one of the Knight Class Servants!
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Then, you allow the reinforcement magecraft to fade away, and focus on another aspect of power inherent to Magical Girls wielding Kaleidosticks. Namely... flight. True flight is actually a tremendously difficult thing for any magus to accomplish, yet it comes quite naturally to you, and you find yourself hovering off the floor, only a few inches, but that's enough to determine that you are very much able to soar through the skies, should you so wish.

"M-master! The reversal procedure is ready, s-should I activate it now?" Amethyst's voice snaps you out of your own thoughts. It would be nice to fly through the skies at some point, unassisted by anything... well, other than the Kaleidostar.

>"Yes, I'd like to return to being me."
>"Hold off for a few minutes, would you? I'm still experimenting with what I'm capable of."
>"Say, what would happen if you used it on Rin?"
>"Amethyst, would you mind warping me into the sky again instead first? I want to fly."
>Write-in...
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>>4677712
Yeah afraid of Manaka using Sakura to her advantage, she's still not 100% stable mentally but it could be much worse, she's not eating people in her sleep
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>>4677723
>Cheer me up? Shinji-chan, you've made my entire year
based, truly this was the best option

>>4677726
>"Say, what would happen if you used it on Rin?"
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>>4677726
>>Write-in...
See if Amethyst can turn Shinji back into a dude while maintaining the transformed state. Make him into some sort of "Magical Boy."
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>>4677726
>"Yes, immediately. And let us never speak of this again."
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>>4677726
"Hold off for a few minutes, would you? I'm still experimenting with what I'm capable of."
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>>4677726
>"Yes, immediately. And let us never speak of this again."
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>At this level, you'd be able to fight against even one of the Knight Class Servants!
Jackpot.
Can we try to force our Reality Marbel with unlimited energy?
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>>4677726
>Go ahead.

>Is this going to happen every time I ask you to activate?
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>>4677726
>"Say, what would happen if you used it on Rin?"
It's impressive how it's design looks like an upgrade and a downgrade at the same time.
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>>4677726
>"Say, what would happen if you used it on Rin?"
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>>4677738
>Can we try to force our Reality Marble with unlimited energy?
Actually a great idea since the last time we tried to do it we overdrawed.
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>>4677738
How could we force a Reality Marble?
Curious, I don't remember how they're formed.
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>>4677726
>"Yes, I'd like to return to being me."
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>>4677747
I have no idea, but earlier Shinji was doing it until he ran out of juice.
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>>4677747
It is essentially a special bounded field and ours is very voracious. Each time we used it through the story or as we were learning new verses it left us completely dried with each verse taking tremendous amout of energy to recite.
With Magical Girl form having access to unlimited magical energy we can force easy way through them to the last bit and try to recite it without passing out.
Amethyst essentially will work as one giant battery.
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>>4677726
>"Say, what would happen if you used it on Rin?"
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>>4677726
>"Hold off for a few minutes, would you? I'm still experimenting with what I'm capable of."
>Attempt to complete verse six.
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>>4677726
>>"Amethyst, would you mind warping me into the sky again instead first? I want to fly."
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>>4677726
Supporting >>4677770
Worth a try.
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Calling in twenty minutes.

Also, I really really REALLY do not reccomend you try to use your additional Magical Energy to force the activation of your reality marble. Regardless of whether or not you'd have the magical energy to do it right now, you aren't really suitably inspired for it.
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>>4677781
It'd be a tad anticlimatic. Probably gonna happen during a more dramatic moment.
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>>4677726
>>"Amethyst, would you mind warping me into the sky again instead first? I want to fly."
Show me the world
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>>4677726

>"Yes, I'd like to return to being me."
>"Say, what would happen if you used it on Rin?"
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>>4677726
>>"Yes, I'd like to return to being me."
>>Write-in... See if Amethyst can turn Shinji back into a dude while maintaining the transformed state. Make him into some sort of "Magical Boy."
I still want Mahou Shounen Shinji, we could really use the mana boost.
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>What would happen if you used it on Rin?
>>4677728
>>4677740
>>4677742
>>4677765

>Try for the mythical Mahou Shounen form
>>4677729

>Yes, and we will never speak of this again.
>>4677731
>>4677737

>Hold off for a second, would you?
>>4677732

>Try to use this opportunity to activate your Reality Marble
>>4677770
>>4677778


>I'd like to return to being me
>>4677750

>Id like to return to being me, but what if you used it on Rin?
>>4677809

>>4677816
>I'd like to return to being me, but can you see if you can do something about making me a magical boy in the future?

>Go ahead. This isn't going to happen every time I ask you to activate, is it?
>>4677739

>I CAN SHOW YOU THE WOOOOOOOOOOOORLD
>>4677771
>>4677793

Well, sorry for the delay, but it looks like the vote is really spread out across the board, and as a result, asking Amethyst what would happen if you used it on Rin is winning.
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>>4677829
Everyone, vote for trying to reach the mythical Mahou Shounen form.
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>>4677843
Too late.
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>>4677829
Rip Rin points. Lasted for about two updates.
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>>4677886
Rin as a guy fucking Shinji as a girl right here in the basement
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>>4677899
Uh oh.

But nah, Rin wouldn't do that, neither would our other friends.
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>>4677899
I'm beginning to think meeting Nyarly actually drove us mad.
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>>4677899
Rin would only do it if there was some kind of excuse like she or you were "low on mana". With how much Shriou and Rin had sex in the H scenes I'm surprised that Rin didn't get pregnant during the end of UBW. I guess magus semen is converted into mana as soon as its absorbed or something?
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>>4677899
we've made a terrible mistake
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>>4677920
more like those four guys made a terriible mistake.
we really need to remember to consolidate votes in the future.
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>>4677921
I JUST WANTED TO ASK, I DIDN'T THINK WE'D DO IT
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>>4677923
You'd better hope she lubes up that gemsword, anon.
Otherwise, we're about to find out whose anus is truly the defenseless one.
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"So... just a question, what would happen if you were to instead use this reversal procedure on Rin?" You're just curious, after all, if it's going to change you back to a male, wouldn't it do the same thing to a female?

"I can answer that one." Rin has her arms crossed. "Nothing. Or even if Amethyst was contracted with me instead of you, it would only cancel my current transformation. The Second True Magic isn't something that you use on people whenever you want to change their sex, Shinji-chan." Rin has a condescending tone as she decides to school you on a form of magical knowledge that you are immensely limited in. "So, I'm sorry to say, but the only one getting to experience life as the opposite sex today is you, Shinji-chan~." Rin starts to extend the end of the word, clearly nothing that you can say or do to her right now is going to knock her off of her current high.

You frown as Rin basically rubs her knowledge about the Second Magic in your face. "Well... I was just wondering, you know?" You don't really enjoy Rin having not only your accidental transformation into a girl to hold over you, but also her vast knowledge of a field of Magic that you've got barely no information on at all. "It's not like I would've asked Amethyst to do anything even if it was possible to do something like that." Honestly, you'd really rather not head down that sort of route, and it would probably be better off if this whole sordid affair was quickly forgotten by everyone involved. "Just... change me back, Amethyst." You sigh as the emblem hovers close to you and begins to glow bright white.

You can feel your body changing again, and soon enough you find yourself wearing the exact same outfit that you were wearing before your transformation. The purple dress of a magical girl has disappeared and been replaced by your suit on your thankfully very clearly male physique. Thank god. "And there you go, back to normal... Shinji-chan!" Rin giggles like a lunatic as she continues to mock you. Well, at least somebody finds what could've been a complete disaster funny. What if the process wasn't reversible? What if you were stuck that way forever? Such things are things that you feel are best left unthought about. Lest you somehow manifest that into being a reality at some point, tempting fate and all that.

"Please stop calling me that." You could really do without being referred to with 'chan' by Rin at all times, it's bad enough that you just turned yourself into girl and only just turned back, but now you're going to have Rin constantly remind you of this event for the rest of your damn life, and you can already tell by the wry smile on her face that she's certainly not going to go along with simply forgetting what happened. At least nobody else was watching when all that ended up happening.
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"No, I don't think I will... Shinji-chan~!" Rin is never ever going to let you forget what you did, is she? Oh well, whatever the cost was, this does seem to have somehow managed to open Rin up to the idea of something more approaching an actual positive relationship to you, yet you don't know what specifically is making her so affable towards you all of a sudden. It's not the fact that you were a girl, that much is obvious, seeing as she's still maintaining her new perspective on you even though you're a man again.

You sigh deeply, why oh why did you think that that was going to be a good idea? Everything about the situation was practically screaming that something would've gone wrong! You feel like you might be lucky that Amethyst only did something reversible and didn't do something more permanent. Hell, knowing the damn thing, it could've just as well teleported you to the center of the Earth! "Right, well. I hope that you've gotten a lot of enjoyment at my expense Rin, because I won't be letting my guard down and doing something that foolish ever again!" You try to inject some confidence in your voice, but Rin continues smirking.

The cat-eared magical girl's smirk just won't leave her face. "You won't have to, Shinji-chan. I've got all the memories I'll ever need... Never before have I felt it necessary to try to create a spell that will allow me to make an imprint of a memory onto a physical medium, but I might just do so now!" Rin chortles, but then her face returns to a serious one. "Of course, not until after we've saved reality though, we've got a lot of work to do, I understand."

"Right... Right." Rin seems to be offering you a lifeline to stop you from floundering uselessly against her mockery, and you're going to take it! Of course, the one question is what you're going to do now...

>Tell Rin to go and meet the others in the Dining Room. She should be there for the debrief as well, seeing as she missed out on some stuff.
>Tell Rin to wait here for her Kaleidosword to finish calibrating while you go find SHIKI. You're kind of worried about the newly immortal boy. He seems to be brooding a lot.
>Spend some more time with Rin, honestly, you don't know if you've ever had such a positive conversation with her before, there was mockery, but it oddly didn't feel mean spirited.
>Ask Rin a question. (What?)
>Write-in...
You're lucky the Second True Magic doesn't work like that.
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>>4677934
>Tell Rin to wait here for her Kaleidosword to finish calibrating while you go find SHIKI. You're kind of worried about the newly immortal boy. He seems to be brooding a lot.
What a missed opportunity for an embarassing first time on top of Roa's nonexistent grave.
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>>4677934
>Tell Rin to wait here for her Kaleidosword to finish calibrating while you go find SHIKI. You're kind of worried about the newly immortal boy. He seems to be brooding a lot.
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>>4677934
>>Tell Rin to wait here for her Kaleidosword to finish calibrating while you go find SHIKI. You're kind of worried about the newly immortal boy. He seems to be brooding a lot.
based, we're now friends, we should up the affection meter next time we have a slice of life event. Now we have to help our bro SHIKI
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>>4677943
Why would you want to have sex with anybody in the Tohno Mansion Rape/Brainwashing/Erasing from Existence Dungeon?
Nothing good ever happens in this basement.
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>Tell Rin to wait here for her Kaleidosword to finish calibrating while you go find SHIKI. You're kind of worried about the newly immortal boy. He seems to be brooding a lot.
Let's find SHIKI, maybe something is on his mind. After this I want to go back to Fuyuki and see Waver. Hopefully Gray and Ayaka will be there too. Ayaka logically could be there because she might be homesick and want to take a trip back home with her teacher.
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>>4677934
>Tell Rin to wait here for her Kaleidosword to finish calibrating while you go find SHIKI. You're kind of worried about the newly immortal boy. He seems to be brooding a lot.
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>>4677934
>Tell Rin to wait here for her Kaleidosword to finish calibrating while you go find SHIKI. You're kind of worried about the newly immortal boy. He seems to be brooding a lot.
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>>4677953
It'd be funny. I think its human nature to want to fuck on the weirdest of places.
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>>4677953
I mean its not like we're gonna come back to Misaki Town anytime soon. Coomers probably want to take advantage of it and have an H scene there. I rather have an H scene with our main waifu we pick though.
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>>4677954
>Ayaka logically could be there because she might be homesick and want to take a trip back home with her teacher.
Two problems with this.
1) Proto Ayaka lives in Tokyo, not Fuyuki.
2) This is an exceptionally dangerous mission, and Waver isn't just going to bring his students to a warzone.

A-san lives in Fuyuki not Proto Ayaka... Or at least she used to.
There would be an issue with age too considering Manaka is typically the older sister, but there was an easy fix for that.

>>4677967
But Rin has honestly only just come around to liking you at all. Even if she was turned into a male temporarily she'd just be incredibly angry.
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>>4677971
who would you count as a main waifu
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>>4677976
Yeah, but its fun to imagine a scenario that sounds like out of some obscure doujin. I don't really care about who we fuck or when, I just care if it's memorable.
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>>4677976
>she'd just be incredibly angry.
Angry enough to raep?
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>>4677983
Right...
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>>4677976
Wait so if I'm understanding you correctly there are three Ayakas in this timeline? Proto Ayaka, Student Ayaka and A-san? I mean Proto Ayaka is probably too young right now, and by what you're saying Student Ayaka won't be coming, so does that mean the only Ayaka we could probably get to help us is A-san? I don't really want to kidnap Child Proto Ayaka just to summon Proto-Kun if that is the case... Richard is almost as strong as Proto-kun.
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>>4677991
No, there are two Ayakas in this timeline, the difference is that Manaka is the younger sister and not the older sister.
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Anyway, calling in twenty minutes so get your votes in if you haven't already.
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>>4677995
Hmm... well if Ayaka is in Tokyo we can go and have a chat with her about where her Dark Goddess younger sister has been hiding for a week now. Ayaka and her Dad is probably worried sick. Ayaka being the older sister also changes her a lot, I don't know if she still has the "Manaka is better than me" complex or if she still gets bullied by Misaya at school, but she might be more confident than her Prototype version? If Ayaka is in Britain then thats too bad...
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>>4677991
ok so A-san is the blonde Strange Fake one, Proto Ayaka is Waver's student though she should've likely graduated by now given that if the timelines sink up, she should be in her 20s by now
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>>4678017
I mean I'm fine with either Ayakas, I mostly just want to throw Gilgamesh off his tracks and make him become a big softy because of a otome protagonist deciding not to wear her glasses. The last thing we want is a jealous Gilgamesh crashing Artoria and Shirou's wedding.
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>>4678004
Are we getting another update tonight?
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>>4678188
Yes.
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"Alright Rin, now that that... ordeal is over with. I've got some important things to do. I suggest you wait for Ruby to... finish calibrating with the sword or whatever it is she's doing, and then when she's done and it's... uh... OK for you to go back to normal." You gesture at Rin's magical girl outfit, while she might not be as embarrassed as she was of it before now that she's seen you as a girl wearing it, that still doesn't really mean that she's going to happily start to wander about dressed like that. She's probably only going to only really be OK with wearing it in front of you, strangely enough. "You ought to ask Sakura to catch you up on things when you're done. Speak to you later, Rin."

"You too, Shinji." Rin doesn't affix '-chan' to the end of your name as you leave, looks like she's only going to do that when the situation isn't actually a serious one, and that's really about all you can wish for at this point. At least she's showing some form of restraint after what she has seen. Even if she's never going to forget it unless you were to like... brainwash her into forgetting it, but you're not the kind of guy who would ever stoop to such a level just to cover up an embarrassing moment.

As you walk back up the stairs from the basement, you soon find yourself just wandering aimlessly through the halls of the Tohno Mansion. Amethyst is hovering behind you silently now, seemingly not wanting to attract your attention in case you decide to punish it after all, though you aren't really interested in doing such a thing. Though you certainly don't want to have to go through the experience again, you must admit that the power you controlled in those few minutes where you were... Kaleido-Amethyst... was pretty incredible. You probably could've defeated a Servant like that with very little difficulty. After all, if you had enough magical energy to reinforce yourself to their level, then all you would need to do would be to use your ability to manipulate and manifest Truth in order to claim an easy victory. After all, with an unlimited amount of magical energy at your disposal, there's nothing stopping you from making a bubble of manifested truth large enough to cover up maybe an entire building or an even greater area! Yes, with an unlimited amount of magical energy at your disposal, you feel like there are in truth very few people on the planet who could actually defeat you... Shame that you apparently need to become an actual magical girl if you want to wield that sort of power freely. Damn Zelretch and his weird proclivities!
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You keep your eyes peeled for anything strange as you wander around the halls, before you can hear some movement behind you, and you turn to face the source. "You've been walking around for a while now, I take it you're looking for me?" The boy you were looking for himself appears directly behind your back. How the hell is he even this skilled at remaining undetected?! He's spent most of his life wrapped in chains! Could he have perhaps... inherited some of Roa's knowledge and skills, like how Ciel inherited the magical skill of the man who stole her body?

"I am, actually. We'll be heading off soon, and Shiki will probably be coming with us... that's not going to cause any problems, is it?" You don't want to cause SHIKI any sort of discomfort by having him come along with Shiki, a boy who he has promised not to interfere with or meet as a promise to his sister. Though honestly, considering just what's at stake here, he might not have a choice in the matter depending on how things go.

SHIKI doesn't seem to visibly react to your words. "Yeah, I overheard some of their discussion earlier. Shiki just isn't the sort of guy who could stand by and do nothing with something like that on the line." SHIKI has a high opinion of his adoptive brother once again, and doesn't seem to be holding the fact that he stole his life against him at all. After all, it's not like Shiki had any choice in the matter anyway, considering he was hypnotized into believing it himself. "He's always been one of the most reliable people around... which is why I asked him to kill me should I ever invert all those years ago." SHIKI frowns as he remind himself of his painful past. It must've been agonizing for him to lose control of himself to both Roa and the impulses of his own blood, while his human mentality was forced to a dark corner of his mind and forced to watch as the darkest part of his psyche did battle with the intruding soul of the vampire for supremacy over his body and actions.

"Then... you're fine with everything?" You hadn't expected SHIKI to be all that reluctant about Shiki coming along with you, but you suppose it does make a sort of sense. It's not like SHIKI hates Shiki at all now, in fact, it seems to be quite the opposite, considering that SHIKI is now purposely sharing his unlimited life-force with Shiki... You find yourself briefly wondering just who would win in a duel between Tohno and Ryougi now that Shiki has been wildly empowered by both your actions and SHIKI's, he was already capable of performing feats beyond that of normal humans when he was limited to only a quarter of the life force that he should've had, so you've got no idea what he'll be able to manage without such limits on him, not to mention the upgrade that you gave his eyes with your own abilities. You snap yourself out of your own thoughts and refocus on SHIKI, who begins to speak solemnly.
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"Look, Shinji. You saved me when I had already given up all hope on ever being rescued. All I was hoping for while I was forced to powerlessly watch myself as I was pushed further and further into the deepest recesses of my own mind was for somebody to eventually be able to put an end to my existence." SHIKI says with sorrow in his voice. "But... you went beyond that... You pulled me out of an endless darkness, you erased my tormentor's soul, and a good portion of my Crimson Red Vermillion instincts were destroyed along with him. As a result, you allowed me to finally take back control over my own body." SHIKI takes a deep breath. "This is a debt that I doubt I'd be able to repay in a thousand lifetimes, and there is clearly no place for SHIKI Tohno in this city, or perhaps even this country, so that's why I... want to swear myself to your service. An oath of loyalty. That I will serve until the death." To the death? He's immortal! He's practically swearing loyalty to you forever! Or well, until you die at least, and you aren't really planning on that happening any time soon.

SHIKI's face remains neutral as he awaits your response.

>"I appreciate the gesture, but there's really no need for that."
>"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours."
>"If you wish to swear yourself to somebody, there's a newly crowned King looking for allies..."
>"Aren't you overreacting? I... I saved you by accident!"
>Write-in...
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>>4678194
>>"I appreciate the gesture, but there's really no need for that."
>>Write-in...
We're already best buddies.
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>>4678196
+1, no need for oaths between best bros
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>>4678194
>"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours."
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>>4678194
If you wish to swear yourself to somebody, there's a newly crowned King looking for allies..."
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>>4678194
>"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours."
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And that'll be the last update for the night, a little unorthodox but I hope you enjoyed it regardless.
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>>4678194
>"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours."

I feel like refusing or pawning him off on Mordred might be kind of insulting, he seems serious.
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>>4678218
what's the affection score for Rin now QM?
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>>4678229
I don't want to spoil it.
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>>4678231
good job team, we really did something today and now we're gonna make things official with SHIKI.
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>>4678194
>"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours."
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I wonder what Zouken is doing right now.
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>>4678194
>>"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours."
This is SHIKI's choice, lets respect it. And if he ever changes his mind, we won't make him stay with us.
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>>4678283
Idk but I just really REALLY wanna kill him
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>>4678194
>"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours."
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>>4678283
Probably pissed off and confused as to the course of the war. That feeble old man is a literal ant in terms of power level at this point, even the weakest among us could probably kill him in one hit. I'm more interested in what the hell happened to Kerry he's been MIA for like 70- 80% of the quest, is he in a Einzbern torture room somewhere in Europe, or watching us from afar in Japan somewhere? When we stormed the Temple the first time, I thought the twist would be that he had taken Manaka's place and somehow gained the ability to summon all of the Altered Zero servants.
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>>4678312
>Kerry comes back
>with EMIYA Assassin as his Servant
How would you react?
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>>4678324
Thats like Shirou summoning EMIYA, wouldn't the servant try to kill the Master the moment they lock eyes?
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The fact that you guys never bothered to resolve the Kerry Subplot is amusing.
You were literally a step away from finding out what happened.
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>>4678336
Speaking of, Medumedu is great and all but I would've kek'd if we somehow got Sakura to summon Parvati or (god forbid) Kama
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>>4678359
Well there was a shitstorm, its not like none of us wanted to figure it out but the very subject set the thread on fire more than once.
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Sometimes its more fun to leave things as a mystery.
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>>4678360
>Parvati or Kama
Do you really think Shinji would actually be OK with having the bodies of his friends piloted around like meat puppets while some divine spirit suppresses their personality and can take control at any time even if they "let" whoever they are bonded to remain in charge.
Pseudo-Servants are just Roa with a positive spin on them.
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>>4678374
Maybe one day WhatIs will tell us how would each harem member react to seeing Magical Girl Shinji.
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>>4678194
>"I appreciate the gesture, but there's really no need for that."
>"but i would be glad if you helped me at least on this end of world thing, but as a friend."
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>>4678381
why would we care, we can just hack the FATE system eventually and summon some.
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>>4678194
>"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours."
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>>4678194
>I realize this is not something you would extend lightly, but you needn’t bind yourself to me like that.
>If you wish to make a commitment, may I suggest making one to yourself, to make the best of your freedom and pay the favour forward?
>I’d rather have a friend than an oath bound servant, anyway.
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>>4678598
Supporting
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>>4678598
Yeah, supporting. Power of friendship, go!
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Shinji should start Makiri Dojo after War is done. Plenty of strong people to spar with now.
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>>4678598
Support.
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>>4678675
At this point the Dojo will have to extradimensional to be worthy of our power level.
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>>4678194
>"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours."
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>>4678598
+1
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>>4678194
>"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours."
A true immortal oni blooded knight? What's not to like?
>>4678312
Killing Zouken I think is going to show just how strong we are now. I think we should create something new out of truth to kill him.
>>4678381
Based. Fuck Pseudos.
>>4678474
Pseudos are kinda pointless though. Doesn't Quetz take a physical form without possessing anybody?
Stheno and Euryale too.
They should at least have homonculus or Servant hosts instead of kidnapping highschoolers.
Makes no sense.
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>>4678194
supporting
>>4678598
fren time

>>4678788
Quetz is more like an alien microbe that "rides" people, rode the meteor into the planet and jumped ship onto new hosts from there. Iirc her current host is some mexican woman who she experienced lucha libre through and now has the obsession with it.

Fem-shinji is our trump card against Merlin btw, he is the ultimate coomer and will likely do what we want if asked in that form.
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Now we're close to doing so let's go over the viability of candidates for receiving the Dragon Blood boost.
Excluding Servants.
>Us: God knows we need it. The additional magical energy reserve, regen rate and output would do wonders for us. Not to mention potential physical buffs too.
Not sure if we'd get any elemental abilities from Truth though.
>Illya
She needs something to both help her stand out and the dragonblood might cure her short lifespan. Hopefully this pushes her to being 99/100 and lets her grant minor wishes due to having a fuckhueg amount of mana.
>Rin
Less important now she's Kaleido Ruby, but she could probably benefit. Eh, IDK.
>Shirou
With a dragon core and physical buffs, would be a nightmare to fight. Sword Spam forever.
>Sakura
Between Tiamat and Magic Nullification I doubt anything would happen.
>SHIKI or Ciel
Superimmortality would probably revert it.
>Touko and Aoko
They really wouldn't benefit much.
>Shiki
Shiki with potential Servant level physicals is nightmarishly powerful, though he wouldn't benefit from a Magic Core at all.
>Mordred
Double Dragon.
Would this even work?
She'd be nigh unstoppable if it did.
>Monica and Baz
We don't have them right now so as cool as Monica being an electric dragon would be, we can't do it.
>Miho
Oni Dragon?
Would probably make her like Shuten tier.

I hope we have enough blood to get like four or five people the upgrade.
Dragonblood Shirou would be great.
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>>4678847
Rin, Shinji and Luvi for Magical Dragon Girls team.
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>>4678856
Wait, how many people are willing to keep turning into a girl whenever we use Amethyst?
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>>4678863
Magical Girl Satsuki (Topaz).
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>>4678872
Don't forget Phantasmoon, the strongest magical girl.
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>>4678847
I personally think it should go
Us
Illya
Shirou
Rin
Mordred
Miho
In that order depending on how much blood there is.
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>>4678847
In order it should be
>Illya (She is on time limit)
>Shinji (Truth eats loads of mana, we need a boost.)
>Shirou (The buff would put him at a Servant level.)
>Rin (She already has Kaleido but not having to rely on it all the time is a good idea.)
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>>4678894
Honestly, with Touko, Medea, Morgan, Aoko and potentially Tamamo, it's kind of safe to say we'll be able to fix Illya and the Maids anyway.
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>>4678894
If we’re talking time limits it would make sense to put her maids up there just past Illya.

Dragon maids.
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>>4678912
I'm all for this.
Maids are barely even characters right now.
I want this to change.
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I really get the feeling that when this is over, World Conquest will be kinda easy.
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>>4678923
If we get both the Mahou Shounen and Dragon's Blood buff to Shinji, even Alaya herself could be deleted if we really wanted to. Didn't Arcueid or Lugh accuse us of being some kind of God? The only thing holding us back from one shotting Manaka is our limited mana capacity.
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>>4678925
>Mahou Shounen
Gay.
Magical Girl or nothing.
I'd rather be a girl than dress like a fag.
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>>4678927
>1 post
lol Okay tranny.
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>>4678931
>he doesn't want to be the little girl
Get the fuck off of my board.
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>>4678933
Not everyone is mentally ill like you on 4chan anon, seek help. I will stop replying to you now.
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>>4678925
>some kind of God?

let's not get too far ahead ourselves here. We're still quite squishy and the dragon isn't even dead yet.
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>>4678934
Not my fault you're a retard.
Mahou Shounen never ever.
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Dont overdo it with american politcs lads.
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>>4678935
Arc can probably one punch the dragon, and we'll get out whole squad to bathe in it. Its messy and gross but the power boost will make taking over Britain a walk in the park.
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It's pretty obvious that the drawback to the power of Amethyst is temporary transformation into a girl.
It's like an overpowered forbidden technique only to be used when we're truly desperate.
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>>4678941
I’m not sure if that’s the case, Amethyst made it sound like the change was unintended. I’d think next time it will transform just outfit.

We can ask Amethyst to clarify.

Although regardless I think we wouldn’t let the embarrassment get in the way of tapping this power should situation call for it.
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>>4678949
Amethyst is horribly incompetent.
I don't think we can trust a word it speaks.
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>>4678951
Maybe it’s performance anxiety? It’s not like we gave it chance to do anything more than once yet. I’m sure we can make it work.
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>>4678953
It's probably entirely based on anxiety and inexperience,
it's supposed to be the most advanced model, so I doubt that any issues we're having with it are issues of capability.
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Good morning thread!
Will call the vote in 26 minutes.
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Woah, sorry about the delay, got caught up in something
>Appreciate the gesture
>>4678196
>>4678197

>Very well
>>4678198
>>4678207
>>4678220
>>4678240
>>4678285
>>4678311
>>4678484
>>4678702
>>4678788

>King Mordred
>>4678199

>Offer friendship
>>4678598
>>4678667
>>4678674
>>4678679
>>4678732
>>4678846
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"Very well, I'll accept this oath of yours, SHIKI." If that's what he has decided he wants to do, then who are you to deny him? You feel like it would be insulting if you were to just palm him off on say, Mordred. You were the one responsible for saving him, and if he wants to do so with some sort of oath of fealty, that's fine. It's not like you're going to abuse the guy and force him to do terrible things, so there shouldn't be a problem with accepting this, right?

"Then... should I start referring to you by lord? or maybe Shinji-sama?" The boy doesn't really sound like he's thought the next part of his oath of loyalty out, or maybe he has, and he's just asking permission? Honestly, of everyone, you feel like you know SHIKI the least. It's not like he got much screen-time while he wasn't being controlled by his oni instincts at all. Of course, it is a little bit strange that oni blood seems to grow more and more uncontrollable the more diluted it is, Shuten and Ibaraki don't really seem to have the problem with going absolutely uncontrollably Berserk, though it might just be that the human blood is incapable of handling the massive boost of power and killing instincts within the blood of an Oni.

"Just... Shinji will do fine, unless you absolutely have to use an honorific or something." Honestly, you've already started to consider SHIKI to be a friend of yours, so there's really no need to be so formal with each other, it's just a barrier that you don't really want to have to deal with in your relationship with the immortal boy.

"Alright, I guess I'll just keep calling you Shinji then." SHIKI shrugs, clearly it doesn't really matter to him how he refers to you, he just seems to want to be able to pay the debt that he thinks he owes you off. You feel a little bit guilty seeing as you weren't actually intending to save him at all, though mostly because you thought the boy was a complete lost cause entirely, it's actually something of a miracle that he managed to not only survive the erasure of Roa, but also to come back to his human senses.

"That'll be fine." You assure SHIKI that you don't need to be referred to by any fancy title. "Though we ought to be getting back to the others now, we need to finish planning on just what we're going to do... you're going to need to wear that hood of yours though, just in case Shiki recognizes you." You instruct SHIKI to conceal himself, while you aren't certain if Shiki would be able to recognize SHIKI immediately as a result of the hypnosis, Makihisa wasn't exactly a professional or even a magus at all, so Shiki's hypnosis was far from perfect.
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SHIKI quickly does as you bid him, and flicks his hood up, it's pretty good at concealing his identity, with the way it covers his face, you can actually only see his mouth clearly, the rest is too shadowed to see properly, it's a pretty damn good cloak, even if it's completely mundane. Shiki is... probably going to notice something is up with him if he looks at him and sees that SHIKI doesn't have any death lines, but it's unlikely he'd make any sort of connection, especially seeing as he's still brainwashed to forget SHIKI's entire existence, depending on how easy it is to break said hypnosis.

The two of you quickly make your ways back to the dining room, and enter to find Mordred just finishing up her own explanation about how she is now the rightful King of England and is even more powerful now than she was when she was both a Servant, or even when she was alive the first time. Of course, Servants with the ability to generate their own magical energy are by default going to be far more powerful than those linked to Masters, unless their Master was some sort of monster with an infinite supply of Magical Energy.

"Oh good, you're back, Master. I believe that we're all caught up now, everyone has given a brief overview of what has happened to them specifically, and I believe that we're all caught up... You've been through a lot since I was gone, haven't you?" Medea's eyes shift onto Sakura. Seems that she might be a little bit worried about the existence of the Primordial Mother Goddess within your sister, but that's a completely fair thing to be concerned about. After all, you're horribly concerned about it too. "We're really just waiting on your input now, before everyone starts squabbling about what we should do, do you have any plans for... saving reality?" Medea pauses for a moment before she finishes her sentence, clearly the fact that the entire universe is throwing her somewhat off her usually calm and collected demeanor, if only a little bit. Everyone looks like the tension has already started to affect them if only a little bit, the knowledge that if you all fail here, then there's not going to be any second chances, and everything will end.

A plan though... "Well, first things first, when we get back to Fuyuki, I want-"

>"...to work together with Medea and Morgan to summon a dragon."
>"...to deal with all of the loose ends before focusing on anything else."
>"...to attack the temple immediately."
Or
>Write-in plan for what you want to do first when you return to Fuyuki.
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>>4679125
>>"...to work together with Medea and Morgan to summon a dragon."
We were literally a step away from finding out what happened to Kerry but idfk how to solve that mystery now
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>>4679125
>"...to work together with Medea and Morgan to summon a dragon."
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>>4679125
>>"...to work together with Medea and Morgan to summon a dragon."
>>4679128
Not to be callous but we have a lot more relevant things on the plate now.
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>>4679125
>>"...to work together with Medea and Morgan to summon a dragon."
Finally!

>>4679128
Eh, I bet we'll find him locked in a basement when we go demolish Acht's crib after the war.
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thinking about it, we have the firepower to kill the dragon but we should probably not damage it too much, we have to drain its blood and it'd be hard to do if all of it is splattered everywhere
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>>4679128
>"...to work together with Medea and Morgan to summon a dragon."
>>4679143
We'll take it out with a cattle stunner.
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>>4679125
>>>"...to work together with Medea and Morgan to summon a dragon."
Now is not the time to hold back anything in gaining more power against a literal Dark Goddess. By the way QM why isn't Altrogue more interested in what is going on with Manaka and why our squad is so hellbent on destroying her to the point where we recruited some of the most powerful people in the world for this fight?
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>>4679125
>>"...save our allies taken hostage."
Medea can teleport us and Truth or True Magic should undo the stasis. We just have to work on the details.
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>loose ends
Gil, Tamamo, Assassin, Kirei, fate of Kiritsugu and Zouken?
Guess Alan and BB will probably met us in Fuyuki now that we work with Outer Gods.
Have I forgotten something?
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>>4679151
That is pretty much everyone, Ayaka might miss Left Manaka if we kill her without any explanation but thats it.
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calling in thirty minutes.
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>>4679125
>"...to work together with Medea and Morgan to summon a dragon."
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>>4679125
>"...to work together with Medea and Morgan to summon a dragon."
>"...and quickly apply concept to Satsuki`s Reality Marble to make it better."
No reason not to.
>>4679166
And WhatIs can you do an interlude writing group talk scene we missed while we were busy with Rin and SHIKI? I doubt I am the only one who was really looking foward to see character interactions between our faction after the reveal. And it is been pretty long since last time we had it.
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>>4679125

>...learn what the current state of the battle is to determine if anything needs our immediate attention.

I think we need to check for update of what is going on before we decide which of these loose ends need to be addressed before confronting Manakas either because they could create problems at inopportune time, because they might make our job with Manaka easier or because successfully dealing with Manaka would render them unresolvable in a satisfactory manner.

>I'd also like to rescue our captured allies before the confrontation.
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>>4679171
Yeah, that'd be nice.
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>>4679151
We still need to talk to miyako to potentially form an alliance.
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>>4678934
You have to go back.
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>>4679171
>And WhatIs can you do an interlude writing group talk scene
It'll be a long interlude, anon, so I might just write it in between updates when I've got the time.
It's not like anything new will be revealed in it.
Any preferences for who's POV I should use?
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>>4679233
Medea is probably the most fitting for POV here. She needs to get up to speed the most and you already gave her bigger role in >>4679125 and >>4675835 so it would fit narratively with her being more of a focal character.
But I am more curious about Arcueid`s outlook personally.
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>>4679233
Medea.

Or Kiritsugu
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>>4679251
>spoiler
Hush. We are not ready for Amethyst`s true personality reveal.
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>>4679233
I'd like Sakura, personally. But Medea would work too for the same reasons as >>4679240.
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>>4679233
Ruby
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>>4679125
>>4679128
+1
time to bathe in blood.
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>>4679233
Honestly Medea works the most because she's the one who's the most out of the loop
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>>4679155
We might not even have to kill left manaka. Nyarly said only one of them was a threat and left didn't seem to be all into right's shenanigans. Left also seemed to have a thing for us, or was at least willing to humor us when we threw wrenches into right's plan.

>>4679128
Could we ask Medea and Morgan to scry for him?
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>>4679280
can they do that? If they can, can we try?
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>>4679287
Medea has literally always been able to do that.
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>>4679289
tf, scry for Kerry then
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>>4679289
Oh god, we're an idiot.
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>>4679294
Are we? I thought we just didn't care, or rather we had more pressing matters.
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>>4679294
we can do it for fucking everyone, kill Zouken, kill Kirei, find out what happened to Kerry. At the very least we can get Zouken over with
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>>4679295
this is a one and done deal, Medea can teleport us, if it takes longer than an hour to deal with all of that shit then those things are also pressing matters
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>>4679296
I was thinking we should try to heal his soul just so he can share his knowledge of the grail.
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>>4679301
nah, too much work, i want him to die
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"...I want to work together with Medea and Morgan in order to summon a dragon, for the purpose of slaying it and using the blood of the beast as a resource to create... something like a ritual in order to give a few of us some... well let's say additional power." Hopefully it works how you've been imagining it to, otherwise it will end up being nothing but a complete waste of time and energy. "Though if we're going to go through with this, we're going to end up needing to fight a dragon. Nobody has any problems with that, do they?" There are no complaints at all, though Morgan does look slightly concerned by how unconcerned you are by the prospect of dragon slaying. To be fair, a Dragon is a beast that represents the pinnacle of Phantasmal Species, yet here you are discussing the idea of killing one as if it were a simple affair. Though with Arcueid at your side, it's not like it will be difficult at all.

"You... You're serious, aren't you?" Morgan is unexpectedly the one who raises her concerns to your plan. "Do you have any idea what might happen to somebody if they were to bathe in dragon blood?" She clearly doesn't like the idea of just... dunking somebody into the blood of a dragon. You can understand it at least, it does have the potential to go horribly wrong if it were to be done without proper care. But you have a collection of some of the greatest magi in history working for you now, so if they can't figure out a way to make such a ritual safe, then it's a pretty sure bet to say that nobody could.

"Well, going off of the example of Siegfried, his skin became unbreakable, his strength was greatly increased, and he acquired the core of a dragon, not unlike Arturia and Mordred's own." You look at Morgan with confident eyes. "Besides, it's not like the extent of the ritual would just be to jump headlong into a pool of the blood of a slain dragon... right Medea?" You ask the woman for some clarification. After all, she's the one who who had been doing the research on this plan.
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"That's right. Though if you wish for me to summon a dragon forth from the Golden Fleece, I'm going to need you to help me. I didn't get to bring it up to you before the attack on the temple, but I believe that if the Fleece was soaked in blood that was rich enough in magical energy, and if I were to use a few incantations upon the fleece in order to rouse the dragon's spirit within, it would awaken and use the blood it was soaked in to create a physical form!" Medea's plan is... unexpectedly brilliant, if it works. "You see, simply summoning the dragon by myself simply wouldn't work, because it would end up spiritual in nature, not unlike a Servant. Otherwise upon it being slain, it will simply disappear, along with any magic it might've held in its blood." Medea explains matter-of-factly. "That's why I need your help to summon it properly, Master." That makes a lot of sense, actually. Though you aren't the only one with blood that is rich in magical energy.

Morgan remains silent as she seems to evaluate Medea for a moment. The two women are some of the greatest spellcasters in history, and it seems like Morgan is assessing just where the skills of this rival magus lie. "Your theory is... entirely correct. Or at least, I can't find any faults with it without personally inspecting this Noble Phantasm of yours in order to ensure that it will actually work."

"Summoning a Dragon just to use it as a material component for a magical ritual to grow more powerful?" Touko laughs to herself. "As expected of my apprentice. You always do aim high." Her voice is strangely approving. Everyone else doesn't really seem to know what to make of your plot to slay a dragon, and decide to keep their mouths shut, not wanting to get into a conversation of magical theory with the three women who have shown interest in the plan already.

"But... How do you know that the ritual itself will work? You've got the plan to summon it down fairly well, but the effects dragon blood can have on a human vary wildly." Morgan asks Medea with interest in her voice. At least she seems to be getting along with with her fellow Caster.
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"Well, it's true that I haven't had much of an opportunity to test that part of my plan out, but it's not like I never came across dragon blood once or twice while I was alive, so I've simply made a ritual with the effects of it in mind. Of course, I've also got a contingency spell prepared for if the blood begins to have too great an effect, though I doubt it will come to that." Medea seems to have planned for quite a lot. "Of course, we're going to need to do a few things if we want to actually go through with this now, and I doubt we'll be able to actually do this back in Fuyuki." Medea's voice suddenly turns serious. "The Dragon is... well it's going to be large enough that to summon it within a city would immediately imperil the secrecy of magecraft that must be abided by, so we're going to need to first go to a sparsely populated area... Which brings me to my second problem." Medea suddenly looks straight in Sakura's dimension. "I can't teleport you, Sakura. I can tell just by looking at you... Your very existence seems to reject any form of magic." Damn it! So you're not going to be able to teleport back to Fuyuki if you want to take Sakura with you? "Oh, and the third problem, though... it's not really a problem, just a matter of procedure. I'm going to need... about a liter of magically rich blood from somebody..." Wait a second, when you said 'now' you meant back in Fuyuki! Is Medea really ready to go ahead with this?!

>Tell Medea to hold off on the summoning for just a second, you're not quite ready.
OR
>Choose one who is magically rich to give blood.
>>Shinji
>>Illya
>>Sakura
>>Mordred
AND
>Choose a location to summon a dragon.
>>An abandoned warehouse.
>>An empty field (Requires teleport)
>>A mountaintop (Requires teleport)
>>A deserted island (Requires teleport)
AND
>Choose which of your allies you want to take with you to fight the dragon.
OR
>Write-in...
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>>4679338
>Choose one who is magically rich to give blood.
>>>Shinji
we can get it back very easily
>>A mountaintop (Requires teleport)
need cover and this works for what i'm thinking would be optimal
>Choose which of your allies you want to take with you to fight the dragon.
>Shirou
he has anti-dragon NPs, or at the very least he fucking better have them and better learn how to throw them
>SHIKI
meat shield and distraction
>Ciel
meat shield and distraction
>Shiki
If he somehow manages to find the dragon's death point then the body will be intact
>Arc
if things get fucked and we need something to rip off its head
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wait I just remember that Ciel exists and has magically rich blood and is immortal, can we use her?
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>>4679356
She's in Fuyuki, you wanna tp her?
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>>4679348
>Ciel
Ciel isn't here right now, and probably wouldn't appreciate being teleported to fight a dragon with no warning.
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>>4679359
>>4679362
guess that's not an option
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>>4679362
Technically, we'd teleport her to drain a liter of her blood to fight a dragon with no warning.
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>>4679338
>Choose one who is magically rich to give blood.
>>Shinji

>Choose a location to summon a dragon.
>>A mountaintop

>Choose which of your allies you want to take with you to fight the dragon.
>Shirou, SHIKI, Shiki

FOUR HORSEMAN OF DEATH GO
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>>4679348
>>4679362
ok everything i chose except replace Ciel with Saber, she can fight defensively and has Instinct so she knows what to do to keep herself safe
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>>4679338
>Choose one who is magically rich to give blood.
>>>Shinji
>>A mountaintop
>Choose which of your allies you want to take with you to fight the dragon.
>Shirou
>SHIKI
>Satsuki
>Mordred
>Arc
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>>4679338
>Choose one who is magically rich to give blood.
>>Shinji
>Choose a location to summon a dragon.
>>A mountaintop (Requires teleport)
>Choose which of your allies you want to take with you to fight the dragon.
>Shirou
>Saber
>SHIKI
>Arc
And about Sakura not being able to teleport... hey Mordred, you wanna fly a helicopter?
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30 minutes till calling
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>>4679338

>Shinji
I'm a bit worried what properties will carry over to the summoned dragon but I suppose that can't be helped. Not asking this of Illya and Sakura's might be immune to magic or manifestation of Tiamat.

>Location
we could ask Tohnos if there's some rundown place that would need razing and building over anyway? Although maybe doing this anywhere near population center would not be wise regardless.
>empty field
could we use some shinji corp property for this, or quickly acquire one? In fact, do we own some industrial property with large vats we could use to capture the blood so nothing goes wasted?

>Allies
Is there any reason why not take all of them? If they want to participate I mean.

Although I suppose Illya should spectate from safe distance.
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>>4679338
>Choose one who is magically rich to give blood.
>Shinji
We really are the best option
>Choose a location to summon a dragon.
>A deserted island
Not much of a point now, but I think the mountaintop will be a terrain more advantageous to the dragon and the field and warehouse both will probably suffer from more collateral damage
>Choose which of your allies you want to take with you to fight the dragon.
>Betty
I am ashamed of you all for forgetting her
>Shirou
>Saber
>Mordred
Our arsenal and two literally dragon-killing knights to hold the line.
>Arcueid
>Satsuki
Our heavy artillery
>Shiki
Our ace in the hole. If it works, it works.

The rest should hold the fort until we return, it shouldn't be long.

And can I vote for NOT SHIKI? The man will be somewhat useless, and there's a high chance he'll reveal his identity to Shiki during the fight.
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>>4679338
Shinji and location Tintagel Castle, Cornwall. Allies, seaweed, Mordred, shirou, medea, Touko and satsuki. Allies I don't care but the castle is where king Arthur was born
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>>4679382
how strong is Shiki now? He's never gotten into a fight though his instincts and powerup should make up for it
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>>4679338
>Choose one who is magically rich to give blood
>>Shinji
Why take if from anyone else? Shinji heals almost instantly.

>Choose a location to summon a dragon.
>>A mountaintop
Natural cover, just hope the slope isn't too steep or something.

>Choose which of your allies you want to take with you to fight the dragon.
>>Shirou
>>SHIKI
>>Shiki
I'm really excited about the heroic brodown we can give this Dragon...but if we HAVE to bring anyone else for safety.
>>Arc
>>Betty
>>Saber
I'd also for the hell of it like to get
>>Giselle
I am once again pushing hard for upgraded maids.
Will she sorta be dead wait in this lineup of badasses? Yes.
But that's why she's here. If anyone needs that sweet sweet dragon juice it's our girl.
Besides, if we're bringing one person that swore loyalty to us, we might as well bring the other.
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>>4679338
>>4679390
+1
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>>4679415
bringing Shiki to a mountaintop is actually optimal, his family was born and bred in the mountains, it should be extremely natural for him
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>>4679338
>>4679415
Support.
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Oh god this is a nightmare to tally.
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>>4679415
Support
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>>4679457
thats expected, there are a lot of different choices.
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IRL dragged me away again, and I still don't really know how to tally this, ally-wise

I can see that mountaintop and your own blood is winning,

But when it comes to individual votes for allies
>>4679415
This is winning, maybe?
God I have a headache.
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>>4679415
Not gonna waste fucking dragon juice on a maid
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>>4679548
Giving the people that are directly in service to us upgrades is not a waste.
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>>4679566
There's a difference between juicing up current masters that might be lacking magical energy and a maid
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>>4679415
+1
Four Horseman is go
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>>4679542
Yeah thats winning
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>>4679572
>A Maid
She's not just a maid.
She's Shinji's maid and his first student in martial arts.
She was Shinji's servant long before Betty and out of all the folks here she would benefit most from getting an upgrade.
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>>4679586
>out of all the folks here she would benefit most from getting an upgrade
Laughably untrue
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>>4679415
You're aware that you won't IMMEDIATELY go through with the ritual on top of a mountain, right? You don't actually need to take Giselle if you want to try to convince everyone that she needs the blood. Seriously.
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>>4679593
Yeah I know, but I'd still like to see write her again. The girl has been in the background for far too long and having her participate as another one of Shinji's retainers seems thematically appropriate to me.
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>>4679593
I assumed when we get the blood we'd be the first ones to get it since not many people are going to be open to bathing in the blood of a phatasmal being as it's kind of a wildly dangerous experiment done on a hunch
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>>4679593
Why is this even a vote, it's unnecessarily complex and hard to tally.
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"Well, if you're ready to do this now, I don't really know what we're waiting for!" Any opportunity to get more powerful rapidly is a benefit to you, and if all you're going to have to do is give a little bit of your blood, there's no problem, right? "Medea, use some of my blood, I'll heal from the loss fast enough."

"Understood, Master. This... shouldn't hurt at all... But it would be best if we were to leave the room, you'll understand my apprehension for using blood magic when there are two vampires in the room... No offense." Medea looks at Arcueid and Satsuki with wary eyes.

"None taken, though I'm not likely to lose my nerve around blood, Satsuki might." Arcueid doesn't seem offended at all by Medea's words. She of all people ought to know the dangers of losing control of herself, considering that her going mad with blood-lust is one of the huge factors of why all the True Ancestors except her are extinct now, and it was all thanks to that bastard Roa. Medea quickly ushers you out of the room and into the hallway, where you have some privacy.

"If it helps, you might want to close your eyes, though I've turned off your body's ability to feel pain in your hand, you might not enjoy thus." Medea quickly manifests Rulebreaker, and your eyes widen for a moment until you recover your senses. Rulebreaker will only activate if Medea actually calls out the True Name of the weapon, otherwise it's just a silly looking ritual dagger. "Give me your palm, Master." You do so, and Medea pierces the back of your hand with the dagger before allowing it to dissipate into wisps of energy. There's no pain, as Medea said there wouldn't be, and the woman says a quick word of power before waiting for almost half a minute with nothing happening.

"Is... something supposed to be happening now?" You ask the woman, but before she can respond, blood starts flowing out of the point where you were stabbed, and begins to coalesce into a red sphere just above Medea's left hand. Then the flow cuts off and the bizarre sensation of being drained of your blood by a magical spell ends. You're left light-headed as your body begins to recover from the loss of blood.
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"Well, that's that step done with, Master." Medea frowns a little as she looks at the blood. Clearly she took no pleasure or enjoyment out of causing you harm, and she probably would've preferred to have used the blood of one of your other magical energy rich allies instead, but she took care to make it so it didn't actually hurt you at all. One more thing to be thankful to Medea for, you suppose, she's incredibly careful and caring when a situation calls for it. There's a purple flash of light and the orb of blood disappears from sight, probably stashed away in some form of magical storage or something. It wouldn't surprise you at all if Medea kept some sort of extradimensional storage system for things like that, though it's not really like she'd normally have much of a use for material components in her magecraft, considering her mastery of High Speed Divine Words. "Now, the next question is just where you want to fight this dragon, it... shouldn't be a specifically huge Dragon, as the summoned beast will be based upon the Colchis Dragon, which as far as dragons go, was actually fairly small."

"A mountaintop." You respond. "It's far out of the way of any prying eyes, and there ought to be plenty of natural cover from the dragons attacks." With any luck, you'll be able to duck behind rocks that are jutting out of the mountaintop in order to avoid the attacks of the dragon, though in truth you aren't entirely sure if such things would be effective against dragon-fire, or if it would just end up with you coated in molten rock and incinerated... not a nice thought. You begin to return to the dining room, with Medea at your side, and you stand next to Betty. "Everyone!" You call out to your allies to get their attention. "I'm going to be taking a few of you along with me to go uh... dragon-slaying." Nobody backs down when you say that, and so you just begin to list out the people who you want to take with you to the mountaintop. Of course, it's not like you're going to actually go through with the ritual on the mountain itself, especially not when Medea just proved herself capable of both extracting blood, as well as storing it. "First off, Shirou and Saber." Shirou's traced Noble Phantasms should be useful in dealing with a dragon, and Saber is... well, she's killed a Dragon before. "Betty, of course." You aren't just about to leave your Servant behind, especially not when her Mystic Eyes could prove crucial in cutting off the Dragon's movements in the air."

"Understood, Master!" Betty sounds happy about the idea of going off to slay a dragon, though you aren't entirely sure as to why. Maybe she's just happy at the idea of finally getting to do something and prove her worth to you after quite some time of inaction. Though it really doesn't help Betty that you sometimes feel the subconscious need to protect her... though her bad tendency to fall asleep at the most inopportune moments isn't helping her performance ratings much either.
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There's no need to mention Medea as coming with you, because... well, she kind of has to come. "Arcueid, are you up for some dragon-slaying?" You ask the girl with a smile on your face. Arcueid is the ultimate trump card, even if the dragon ends up being dozens of times stronger than expected, she'll be able to handle it quite easily. Though odds are that she'll just stay on the sidelines and not get involved. After all, there's not really much fun to be had in crushing an enemy without any resistance.

"Sure, sounds like it might be amusing." Arcueid's response doesn't really show much amusement though, sounds like she actually thinks that the idea of slaying a true dragon will be kind of boring... Well, that's just Arcueid, she's so powerful that her sense of scale is all messed up.

"Shiki, I know this is a lot to ask, but are you willing to come and slay a dragon?" While he might not have much faith in his own abilities yet, the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception are some of the greatest weapons on the planet, and all he would need on the Dragon is one good solid slash to permanently deprive it of a leg, or potentially to strike a death point and immediately end its life. "Think of it as a good opportunity to test your new abilities, you're going to be helping us save reality itself, in comparison, a dragon is a cakewalk, right?"

Shiki doesn't seem so happy about the idea of going to fight a dragon, even when you try to dress up the idea a little, and he looks at his comparatively small knife with a frown on his face. Of course, there's no substitute for that knife for Shiki, considering that his Nanaya instincts are best suited to its use, but you wouldn't be all too happy about the idea of having to fight a dragon with a knife like that either. Like a dangerously under-equipped hero in an RPG trying to beat a boss without upgrading his equipment. "Fine, you might be right. Though don't you think that this is a little too extreme for a first mission?" Shiki might be right, but honestly, this dragon shouldn't even be that strong compared to what you normally face.

"It's on the upper-average end for enemies we normally fight." You just say without any hint of humor, and Shiki visibly looks unnerved by your words, don't worry, you'll get used to it, Shiki. "Anyway... as for my last two picks, Giselle, would you mind accompanying me? My other retainer as well." SHIKI steps forwards as you say that , clearly recognizing you were referring to him, and begins moving closer to you. Giselle also moves to your side from Illya's side. Though Illya makes no move to stop her. Giselle was always your maid, after all. While her martial skill isn't fantastic, strength-wise, she's practically capable of hitting like a truck.

"Retainers?" Mordred asks with a smirk as she looks at the maid and the hooded man at your side. "Aren't you going to ask me to come along, advisor?"
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"I wouldn't want to bore you with this, Mordred. Besides, what sort of an advisor would I be if I started having you take part in magical experiments?" You try to prevent Mordred from reacting poorly to not having been picked to go dragon-slaying with you. "I can assure you that this won't be any sort of grand battle against a dragon, it will be more like a summary dissection of a lab creature." Honestly, you feel kind of bad for the dragon that Medea is going to summon, considering it is being summoned forth just to be killed. It actually feels kind of cruel, but if needs must...

"Very well, advisor. But don't be long, lest I be forced to rely on my mother to find you." Mordred looks over at Morgan, who simply gives a happy smile upon being glared at by her daughter. What a bizarre relationship Mordred and her entire family have.

"If that's everyone, then please could everyone hold somebody's hand and form a circle? It's easier to focus on a spacial transportation spell when there's only a single target." Medea instructs everyone, and you soon find yourself holding both Medea's hand as well as Betty's hand as everyone else forms up around you, and Medea raises her staff, before uttering a single word.

"Tροψα!"

The first thing that hits you is the coldness of the air, you aren't really dressed for this sort of environment, and neither is anybody else, the thinness of the air isn't doing you any favors either. Though you don't feel the cold for very long before Medea casts another spell that shields you all from the effects of the freezing winds atop the mountain in addition to making it far easier to breath. Medea really is great with her magecraft, isn't she?

"Alright, hold on for a moment, Master. The summoning should take only about five minutes, so I suggest you use that time to sort out a plan of attack with everyone, just in case." Medea doesn't seem as confident about your ability to slay a dragon as you yourself are, but you suppose she's right that it does make more sense to plan for any eventuality, no matter how slim it is that the dragon ends up even proving to be a moderate threat to the allies you've got with you.

Choose attack strategy.
>Four Horsemen of Death: Shinji, Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou act as the main attacking force, while the others provide support.
>Sacrificial Immortal: SHIKI will draw the attention of the dragon and everyone else will take attacks when the opportunity presents itself.
>Maximum Overkill: Arturia, Betty and Arcueid will crush the dragon the moment it takes physical form.
>Archery Lesson: Have everyone else remain on standby while you have Betty use her Mystic Eyes to freeze it in position long enough for Shirou to snipe it with a Noble Phantasm.
>EXCALIBAAAAAA: The name of the plan is the plan
>Write-in plan...
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>>4679687
>>Write-in plan...
>Dance off, yo: Challenge the Dragon to a dance off.
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>>4679687
>Four Horsemen of Death: Shinji, Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou act as the main attacking force, while the others provide support.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfcGsiD1QcA
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>>4679687
>>Four Horsemen of Death: Shinji, Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou act as the main attacking force, while the others provide support.
This is the most based option even if it's wildly unsafe
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>>4679687
>>Archery Lesson: Have everyone else remain on standby while you have Betty use her Mystic Eyes to freeze it in position long enough for Shirou to snipe it with a Noble Phantasm.
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>>4679687
>Four Horsemen of Death: Shinji, Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou act as the main attacking force, while the others provide support.
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While I would love to write another update tonight, the plan of attack is actually a very important vote, so I'm going to call it for tonight.
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>>4679725
Thanks for running mate. Keep up the great work :D

>>4679687
>Four Horsemen of Death: Shinji, Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou act as the main attacking force, while the others provide support.
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>>4679687
Max overkill
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>>4679687
>Four Horsemen of Death: Shinji, Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou act as the main attacking force, while the others provide support.
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>>4679687
>Four Horsemen of Death: Shinji, Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou act as the main attacking force, while the others provide support.
Worst choice tactically, best choice strategically.
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>>4679687
>Archery Lesson: Have everyone else remain on standby while you have Betty use her Mystic Eyes to freeze it in position long enough for Shirou to snipe it with a Noble Phantasm.
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>>4679883
How so
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>>4679967
It's the riskiest, but it gives the most experience and has the best chance of an intact corpse.
Also its based, and being based is important in the long run.
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>>4679883
I have a feeling that dragonsblood only works on those who directly cause its death the most, so I feel this is also smart

>>4679687
>Four Horsemen of Death: Shinji, Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou act as the main attacking force, while the others provide support.

Have the mages provide fire support, and melees focus on keeping the mages protected.
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>>4679687
>Archery lesson + safety measures
We split into groups so if dragon has a chance to suppress any of us with dragonfire the others can act.
Saber stands with Shirou
SHIKI goes with us and Betty
Shiki and Arcueid Form the third group to destroy the dragon

Take care positioning so all groups have cover available both towards Dragon bc fire and behind them to not get blown off the cliff face.

Giselle.... I guess Gisslle can stick with Betty and carry her if she needed some extra mobility. Not sure how fast her Servant body actually is.
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>>4679687
>Sacrificial Immortal: SHIKI will draw the attention of the dragon
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>Archery Lesson: Betty will freeze it in position long enough for Shirou to snipe it
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>Go for the eyes: Shiki will attempt to one-shot the dragon while it's frozen or at least cripple it
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>None shall pass: Arcueid will protect Shiki and Saber will protect Shirou just in case anything goes wrong
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>Man (and woman) of the hour: Shinji and Medea will standby, ready to react on anything unexpected.
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>>4679687
>Four Horsemen of Death: Shinji, Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou act as the main attacking force, while the others provide support.
Does anybody else feel like we're about to get hardcore fucked for some reason?
I've got a bad feeling about this, and I don't think the dragon will be as easy as we think.
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>>4680467
Blood option was for dragons power level.
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>>4680478
Oh then we're fucked aren't we?
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>>4680481
So, odds that we just created one of the strongest dragons ever?
I don't think we've fucked up this bad since Goddess Shuten killed everyone.
I don't think Four Horsemen is optimal here guys.
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>>4680481
>>4680485
True Dragon is born.
The World will tremble.
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>>4680492
>the dragon is summoned
>it's actually a dragon girl
>we end up making another friend instead of a powerup reagent
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>>4680492
Thank god we brought Arc and Saber.
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>>4680500
Arcueid the fallback violence dispenser.
What does she actually enjoy to do for fun? I feel a bit guilty dragging her around for when we bite off more than we can chew
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>>4680504
She likes watching movies and doing typically fun stuff.
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>>4680498
We need to use the kaleidostar.
On the dragon.
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>>4680498
>she calls Shinji dad and Medea mom
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>>4680522
Stop trying to make me feel bad about killing our dragon daughter.
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>>4680522
No shit if this happens we abort the mission immediately.
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>>4680536
Do we even speak Draconic? How will we be able to understand what the roars mean?
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>>4680536
If the the opportunity to spare it arises we totally should.
Gotta get that Rider class qualification somehow, and it's not like our dragon daughter needs to die to donate blood.
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>powerful magus
>advisor to King of Britain
>gave King of Britain Caliburn to prove herself
>women trouble
>weird morality
>not entirely human
>dragon daughter
Shit we really are Merlin
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>>4680552
You forgot
>has magical girl persona
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>>4680552
All we are missing is a white cloak maybe we can turn the shroud of matthias into white.
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>>4680552
>>4680553
Magi Mari would be proud
>>4680538
Just ask Medea to translate or something
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That's the plot twist.
We are Merlin.
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>>4680561
>bad dragon!
Poor choice of words.
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Guten morgen, thread.

Calling in 50 minutes.
Though the outcome is pretty clear...
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Soon.
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>>4680704
Anal rape?
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>>4680710
Dragon Daughter is hilarious idea.
Wish WhatIs would allow to roll for quality of the dragon with crits.
But frankly I don't think we can create a creature what Arcueid would not be able to put down with ease if needs be.
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I don't know why you guys are anticipating a dragon daughter when Mordred isn't even pregnant yet.
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>>4680720
I've tried to fix that but the virgin autists wanted a different path.
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>>4680720
holy shit what the fuck kind of hellspawn is gonna come out of her if we're the father
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>>4680726
A loving one, she needs an heir anyway.
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>>4680731
Does an immortal king need an heir?
I guess it doesn't matter, she's getting one anyways.
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"Alright, here's the plan. Betty, Arcueid, Saber, Medea and Giselle will stay back to provide support should it be needed, while the rest of us will make up the main offensive force." Between Shirou, Shiki and yourself, you've got a pretty devastating offensive potential between the three of you, and SHIKI has his immortality, so any sort of attack that he is hit with is guaranteed to not be of any real effect, at least not for very long.

"I must object to this! What if Shirou gets hurt?" Saber quickly raises her concerns with your plan, and while it's true that your most powerful fighters will be taking the supporting role for the sake of getting Shiki, SHIKI and Shirou some more battle experience, it's not like they can't intervene if things get dire enough.

"I'll be fine, Saber. Besides, so long as I keep my copy of Avalon inside me, nothing bad will happen to me, right?" Shirou is quick to inform his soon-to-be wife that he'll be fine and is more than capable of handling himself, especially thanks to having Avalon inside him. Practically everyone you're going to be sending directly up against the dragon can regenerate at least as quickly as a typical Servant can, and SHIKI is probably tied with Ciel for the fastest and most effective regenerative ability on the entire planet. The only one of any concern is Shiki, but even he has the ability to rapidly recover from any damage he might take as a result of SHIKI's reversal of energy flowing to him, so long as he doesn't get incinerated by dragon fire or something... Though you imagine his Nanaya instincts will kick in to allow him to avoid things like that anyway.

"Alright... but... be careful, OK?" Saber tries to remind Shirou to be careful as hopeless as such a request might be going to Shirou. You can ascribe many positive qualities to Shirou Emiya, but careful most certainly is not one of them. This is the same boy who would have converted his nerves into magic circuits every single nights and withstood incredible pain equivalent to inserting a hot iron rod into his spine. You're pretty sure the words 'careful' or even 'cautious' aren't really even in his vocabulary.

"I'll try, Saber." Still, Shirou does seem to be more than happy to at least attempt to go along with Saber's request. You suppose such things need to be taken into consideration even by Shirou, considering the fact that he proposed to Saber. It wouldn't do much good at all if he were to get himself killed before they even had a chance to marry each other.
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With that quick exchange done with, and with no other objections, you look over at Medea. There's a blood-soaked piece of previously fluffy fabric floating in front of her, while she chants spells of all variety at the artifact. A few minutes of chanting pass before Medea raises her staff, which begins to shine with a great yellow light, before she leaps backwards away from the floating fleece. "It's done, Master. Prepare yourself." Medea keeps her words brief as the blood that was previously soaking into the fleece suddenly flows away from the fleece and into the air, not even leaving a stain on the fleece, which turns dull and powerless as all of the blood that was previously upon it becomes an orb once more. "Hold on a moment... it wasn't supposed to detach from the Golden Fleece!" Medea looks confused by this turn of events, yet you aren't entirely certain just what she's so surprised by.

The orb suddenly begins to change shape rapidly, all sorts of streams of blood flow out of it, until you can see what appears to be the circulatory system of a dragon that's almost half the size of the Tohno Mansion already, and it's not stopping yet! "Medea! What's going on?!" You've got a really bad feeling about this, and you know for a fact that the Colchis Dragon most certainly should not be this large.

"I-it's not the Colchis Dragon anymore!" Medea raises her staff defensively as the enormous circulatory system begins to glow a blinding bright yellow, and you're forced to avert your eyes! The magical energy of the entire surrounding area seems to double simply as a result of the dragon beginning to take form! But it doesn't stop there! The magical energy keeps on increasing more and more! "What is this power...? The ambient mana, it's like that of the Age of Gods!" Medea doesn't avert her eyes as she simply stares into the blinding light of the metamorphosing dragon, apparently mesmerized.
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There's one last great flash of light before you turn your eyes back to look at the dragon, and it's... very clearly not the Colchis Dragon, by anybody's account! It's... ginormous! It's as large as Illya's entire castle! It can barely even fit on the large mountaintop that you're meant to be fighting it on! But that's just its size, physically, its golden scales are brighter and more reflective than even the most polished of metals, and it's very existence radiates a tremendous amount of power! Could this have been a result of using your blood to give the spirit of the dragon within the Golden Fleece a physical form?!

"RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOOAGH"It roars when it finally locks eyes upon you and the rest of your group, and the noise is so tremendous that you are almost knocked to the floor by the shock wave alone! Your confidence was totally undeserved! This thing is a true monster! Even Arcueid looks a little bit concerned by the beast that has been summoned! It suddenly opens it's mouth and a great ball of energy begins to gather just in front of its open mouth! It's charging up for some sort of breath attack!

>Attack it before it can finish it's attack!
>Block whatever it is going to do with a shield of Truth and then counter-attack!
>Have everyone dodge the attack!
>Ask Medea what to do!
>Damn the plan, have Saber counter the attack with Excalibur!
>Write-in...
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>Have everyone dodge the attack!
>Use a truth construct to anchor it to the ground so that our allies can get into melee range.
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>>4680810
>>Have everyone dodge the attack!
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>>4680810
>yell “scatter!”
>manifest a shield of truth to block the attack, angle it to deflect the beam upwards, then jump out of the direct path just in case the dragon breath pierces it

Oh boy
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Majestic Creature.
Our closest relative even!
>>4680810
>Attack it before it can finish it's attack!
Tempet to vote to use Amethyst but lets try without Age of Gods Magical Girls for now.
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>>4680815
Support
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Of you can create a muzzle construct of truth on it's maw so you can have the blast backfire.
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>>4680836
Reality Marbel, adding anti-dragon properties to attacks and using anti-dragon NPs are probably best way to put it down for good.
Or Shiki using his Mystic Eyes of Death Perception but we might need to make sure it really stays dead and do not pull a Hydra on us.
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>>4680810
>>4680815
Support
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>Rule Breaker. Gram. Merodach. Crocea Mors, Durandal, Durindana, Caliburn, Ascalon, Gae Bolg Alternative, Harpe, Moralltach, Beagalltach, the Sword of Paracelcus, Tsumukari Muramasa... S̮̩̫l͈̘̙͢a̴̠̳̹̦̱̺͓sh̝͚̬̗̠͡ ̛͍E̮ṃ̶p̼̭̘͎͓͇e̵͈̩̯̝͙̱̙r̵̪o͙̜͙͠r͕
Yeah looking back at this list WhatIs was really hoping we do a dragon thing and use our blood.
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>>4680815
>>4680810
Support
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>>4680867
That list isn't actually the complete list, by the way.
Shirou just got messed up a little by the recording of Slash Emperor.
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Oh and calling in 25 minutes.
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>>4680876
I am starting to wonder is we have some insane options just waiting to be manifested similarly how Mordred got her fancy picky sword.
Or if it is even possible to come up with new sword and make Shirou believe it is a real thing.
Stormbringer soon.
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>>4680810
>It's... ginormous! It's as large as Illya's entire castle! It can barely even fit on the large mountaintop that you're meant to be fighting it on
might have enough blood to go around
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>>4680890
All we need now is a leafblower.
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I'm guessing we'll be using the Amethyst within one or two updates... although I wonder if dragon's element won't knock it out right after.

Shiki has to enter literal knife fight range to use his Eyes, right? Can he just use his sight to see weak points others could target (even if of course not to the same effect)?

Also I'd rather not get SHIKI exposed to the breath weapon in case the truth beam can make him permadead.
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>>4680916
ok so we don't know since i'm pretty sure Shiki Ryougi can do some fucky shit like cutting concepts and we just upgraded Shiki's eyes so fair chance he can do something similar along with generally being more skilled for assassinations
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>>4680916
>>4680921
A thing to consider is that dragon might have our regeneration. And we healed Arc after she was cutted by Shiki just fine.
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>>4680923
We were killing Arc though, if our situations switched we'd be deader than dead, having our skulls crushed or hearts destroyed steal means death for us
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>>4680923
I don't know how resilient this dragon is, but Arc is simply too durable to die from being cut to pieces.
If the Dragon of Truth has the same properties as us, it dies when it is killed.
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"Everyone! Scatter, now!" You yell the order to your allies, and there was really no need to, as everyone dashes out of the path direction the dragon is looking, just in time for it to fire a single brief beam of energy! There's seemingly no effect from the beam hitting a stray boulder instead of any of your allies, until cracks begin forming on the surface, and golden light begins to seep out of the rock before it disappears in a flash of light, as if it was never there in the first place! What the hell did it just do?!

Thankfully, the dragon seems as surprised by the effect of it's breath weapon as everyone else, and doesn't immediately return to attack, instead choosing to tilt its head in confusion at the lack of what it was likely expecting to be an attack relating to flames. Though that gives you the knowledge that this creature is unfamiliar with its own abilities! Though that won't help you much if you were to allow it to take to the air!

Everyone else is acting defensively as you make your next move, you can't let it take to the air, otherwise the overwhelming advantage would belong to the dragon, however, with the ambient mana alone, you can tell that your abilities are going to be far less restricted, meaning you'll be able to use truth to try to bind it and prevent it from taking off! But how? You can't you attempt to shackle it to the floor, no matter how strong a chain made of manifested truth might be, it would just be able to break whatever you connected it to, meaning that would be an entirely pointless waste of your own energy, unless...

"Everyone! Cover me!" You yell a command to your allies as you reinforce your legs to their absolute maximum and take a look at the sheer size of the task that lies before you. "Shiki! Do you think you'll be able to make it to back of the dragon?! You're going to need to cut off a wing!" You yell at the boy who currently has his eyes active and his knife drawn. It does look kind of silly that his only weapon is a knife, but he really doesn't need anything else. You form a few links of chain out of truth in your hand, if you can bind it long enough for Shiki to be able to cut off a wing, then you'll be able to prevent it from taking flight!
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>>4680810
>Attack it before it can finish it's attack!
Oh fuck. I really don't want to see what happens when Truth breath meets Truth shield
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"Are you crazy? How the hell am I supposed to get up there?!" Shiki's response is a negative one, but you know he's probably just downplaying his own abilities. Clearly you don't have much time, as the dragon has already started to experimentally beat its wings as if to test that part of its body as well! You're thankful for the brief respite in attack that it has decided to give you, but you know that it's only so long until it stops testing itself and attacks again, and against that level of physical bulk and power, only Arcueid and perhaps Betty could survive a direct hit!

>"Medea! Get Shiki up top, I've got a plan!"
>"Just climb up the side of it before it attacks again! Use the death lines as hand holds while I try to bind it!"
>"Betty! Use your Mystic Eyes to try to slow it down enough for Shiki to climb up it!"
>Write-in...
I understand that you wanted to bind it to the floor, but Shinji could tell that trying to do that would just mean it would break the floor. So he's going for a different kind of binding
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>>4680965
>>"Medea! Get Shiki up top, I've got a plan!"
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>>4680965
>"Medea! Get Shiki up top, I've got a plan!"
>"Betty! Use your Mystic Eyes to try to slow it down enough for Shiki to not immediately fall off the dragon's back!
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>>4680965
>"Medea! Get Shiki up top, I've got a plan!"

Im gonna be out of internet service most of today, might be my only vote so hope its a good one
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>>4680965

why not both?

>>4680970
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>>4680965
"Betty! Use your Mystic Eyes to try to slow it down enough for Shiki to climb up it!"
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>>4680965
>>"Medea! Get Shiki up top, I've got a plan!"
>>"Betty! Use your Mystic Eyes to try to slow it down enough for Shiki to not immediately fall off the dragon's back!
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>>4680970
>>4680965
support
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>>4680965
>"Medea! Get Shiki up top, I've got a plan!"
>"Betty! Use your Mystic Eyes to try to slow it down enough for Shiki to not immediately fall off the dragon's back!
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Calling in 30.
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>>4680965
>>4680970
Support
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>>4680965
>>4680970
support
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>>4680970
Support
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>>4680965
>use mystic eyes

Also, some support fire of Ascalon arrows would help Shirou.

Can he modify an Ascalon-knife for Shiki as well?

I imagine as a Truth dragon it'd probably shatter reality marbles pretty easily if he actually set up UBW against it though.
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>"Medea! Get Shiki up top, I've got a plan!"
>Pull a Re:zero and launch a projectile at the dragon, As it dodges the projectile have shiki ride said projectile and at the opportune moment as the dragon dodges the projectile he should land upon it and disable it's flight capabilities.
>Said projectile should be created of earth and to be pointy at the end as to incentivize the dragon to dodge.
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'Medea! Get Shiki up on the back of the dragon. I have an idea for defeating it.' You mentally call out to Medea in order to give her her orders, it's a far faster method of communication than just using your words, especially in a situation like this one where an order can easily be misheard. Communication is a key to earning a victory here. Medea gives a wordless response of acknowledgement, and you move on to the next part of your plan. 'Betty. Your mystic eyes, can you use them to slow the dragon down?' You're not foolish enough to think that even Mystic Eyes as powerful as Betty's can become would have any ability to kill a dragon on the level of this creature, when it comes to strength and endurance, a simple glance is enough to tell you that even the toughest of Servants likely pales in comparison to how much punishment this thing looks like it can handle.

'I can, Master!' Betty's response comes quickly, and she rapidly activates her Mystic Eyes also! The Dragon seems to... shudder in place for a moment, and seems to be unaware of just what is causing it to be slowed! You don't have much time until it figures it out, so you're going to make best use of this time as you can!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t51TB9lXxDs

"Now Medea!" You yell out, momentarily ignoring your ability to use telepathy to communicate with the woman, and with a wave of her staff and a word of power, Shiki teleports out of sight at the exact same moment that you finish your dash towards the currently confused dragon! Pushing your leg reinforcements to an even greater level you drop a piece of the chain weighed down with a small heavy square made of truth and you leap upwards, attempting to get atop the dragon! Of course, even with your physical abilities reinforced to your current level, you fail you make it to the top in a single bound, and begin to lose momentum at around halfway up the dragon, of course you don't let this stop you though!

You reach out with your free hand as you continue to create chains of truth energy with your other, a thin golden chain of energy trailing behind you as you grab hold of an exposed spike sticking out of the scales of the dragon, and you reinforce your hand and arm with as much power as you're able to and use it to push yourself higher!
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You're soaring once again and you soon land upon the back of the colossal dragon, just in time to see Shiki trying to hang on to the dragon for dear life as it bucks a little bit. Had it not been for Betty slowing it down, you probably would've already been flung off, though it does only seem to be reacting like this at all because of the magical affect being applied to it in the first place... You suppose you can't really tell whether or not the usage of the eyes in this exact scenario was effective, but you're about to make them far more effective! "Shiki! Go for the wings, or a Death Point if you can see one! I'm going to buy you the stability you need!" Right now it's about all Shiki can do not to get flung off of the back of the dragon, never mind making it to the trunk-like wing limbs.

With those words, you sprint forwards for a few seconds and leap off of the side of the dragon, using the chain of truth to rapidly rappel down to the floor, confident in the weight of the object you created to hold the chains in place, when you're clear of the side of the dragon's body, you use the chain in order to swing across, grabbing hold of your own manifested chain and rapidly swinging through one of the dragons legs and back to the chain itself! A perfect success!

Landing near the start of where you started to create the chain, you allow the object to dissipate and then have the two ends of the chain fuse together. So long as you're holding onto it, it will never break, that is the truth that it represents! Now, there's simply the matter of tightening it! With but a mental command, you start to cause the chain to tighten up around the body of the dragon! Rapidly it turns from a relatively loose band of chain to a tightening hold around the body and left front leg of the dragon! You aren't just going to prevent it from taking flight! You're going to end this now by stopping it from moving altogether!

You seem to run into some unexpected resistance when the chain becomes tight enough that it would need to move the dragon in order to tighten any further, and you find yourself having to pump more magical energy into the chains to continue the tightening, the scales of this dragon must be tremendously tough if it capable of even resisting something like a chain made of manifested truth!

Still, despite the difficulty you began to run into, you are successful in managing to bind the dragon from moving at all for a while, and in that time, a brief glance upwards gives you the welcome sight of one of its colossal wings falling off of its body!
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However, you aren't expecting what happens next. An unbelievable surge of power and energy comes from within the dragon as it roars once again, this time in surprise and pain at the loss of one of its limbs, and it not only manages to rear up, but it... it's resisting your chains, you can feel them straining under the pressure of the dragon's strength and your eyes widen in utter shock as you realize... it too can manipulate Truth! Not to the level you are capable of, but it has shown the capacity! You really have created an absolute monster! Out of the corner of your eye you can see Shiki soaring through the air, having been flung off of the back of the dragon, and you breath a sigh of relief when you see him disappear in a flash of purple light as Medea teleports him to the ground safely.

You try to pump the chain with as much energy as you are capable, but before you can manage to make them powerful enough to account for this surge of energy, the chain shatters, and the dragons leg is free, even worse, it doesn't seem to be at all affected by Betty's Mystic Eyes now either! It roars once again, the surprise and pain having given way to rage at those who would dare to harm it. You've had your grace period from this dragon, it seems, and now the dragon has found itself a new target, the one closest to it, and the one who bound it.

Namely, you.

The dragon's head has craned entirely to stare at you with speed on the level of the fastest Servants, and you know you only have mere moments before it attacks and ends your life in a fraction of an instant! At this range, it could kill you with ease! You're going to need to think of something fast!

>Use a command spell on one of your Servants! (Who?)
>Make a barrier of truth around yourself!
>Try to leap away from the dragon!
>There's no sense trying to defend! Form a sword made from Truth and attack it!
>Write-in...
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>>4681192
Form a sword and shield of truth
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>>4681192
Also not going to lie I wish someone permanently died or was maimed a bit. Even like if we lost a limb to this dragon. Everything is low stakes
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>>4681196
Well if that's what you want...
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>>4681192
>Use a command spell on one of your Servants!
>"Medea! Get me away from him!"

The dragon could tear through our chains of truth, I don't like the chances of a truth sword or shield. And there's no way a leap will be enough.
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>>4681200
Yeah, I mean we don't seem handicapped in any way. It feels like this story is almost over and it might be but we just push through every conflict with brute force.
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>>4681204
+1
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>>4681205
Not saying I don't love this story but yeah I'm sure you know what you want to happen. I'm enjoying either way
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>>4681204
Was wanting to go at it like a knight. Not everything ends well.
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alright I think its about time we finish our reality marble now, the dragon is starting to resist out attacks now and this seems like the sort of climax needed to go full GAR

>>4681205
>Yeah, I mean we don't seem handicapped in any way
Might be because we spent a decade training to deal with everything or something
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>>4681210
I guess you enjoy being a Gary stu. I want personal development through struggles or loss
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>>4681200
It does seem that the lack of permanent consequences, other than the dojo, has lulled a lot of anons into a sense of security and in half-assing things for the lulz, our current 4 horsemen "plan" being a prime example. But I wouldn't like this turning full grimdark, and I doubt anything less would be enough to fix that attitude at this point.
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>>4681212
you're acting like we haven't been struggling or fucking up, we've died multiple times
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>>4681216
Died but with no consequences. The only lasting one was losing allies to manaka who it seems we'll get them back.
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>>4681215
tbf, no one expected the dragon to actually be much stronger than it is now, we went with 4 horsemen because we expected the Colchis Dragon and because we wanted the body to stay intact.

>>4681218
and Satsuki turning into a vampire, and Kerry dying/in a basement. Like what do you expect, our whole goal is to save everybody, if you want something with consequences i'm sure there's another quest that has that in spades
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>>4681219
I think we all knew about Satsuki and who gives a fuck about Kerry?
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>>4681221
>d-doesn't count
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>>4681192
I’m not too confident in blocking power of truth shield here, but the dragon might not be anticipating a bolt down its open throat. Then again it’s a gamble.
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>>4681227
We've made like 2 immortals and can cure Satsuki. We've done some way too op shit. Hell Satsuki likes being a vamp bc she's of use to us
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>>4681229
Alternatively aren’t we still surrounded by Betty’s familiars? Sending these down dragon’s throat before it attacks might force it to choke or gag instead if attack, giving us time to dodge and our friends to pelt it.
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Coming to this quest off of Awakening Mirror, I've enjoyed not having to arbitrarily lose thus far.
I also resent the idea that nothing we've done so far has been difficult, and I don't think we need to use death and permanent injury as a measuring stick for how earned a victory was.
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>>4681219
I did expect the dragon to be stronger than the normal Colchis, which is why I proposed a plan utilizing all our assets. But this is not the first time we've gone for the "cool" option or charged ahead with (over)confidence. It's bitten us in the ass before, but as long as nothing important is lost no one cares. Case in point:

>>4681219
We've been planning on Satsuki turning into a vampire since almost the beginning. Our attempt to save her was somewhere between "half-assed" and "nonexistent". And literally who the fuck cares about Kerry? I was in favor of letting that human disaster die from his own choices, but let's not revive that old shitshow of a vote.
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>>4681212
Here’s something up your alley m8

https://cad-comic.com/comic/loss/
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>>4681239
I do agree that arbitrary losing shit would be infuriating. And I'm not saying what we did wasn't difficult, or that we didn't earn our victories. All I'm saying is that our defeats (and there have been quite a few of those) haven't really cost us anything important, and that has encouraged an overly foolhardy attitude.
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>>4681239
I feel like there's been more arbirtariness in this quest than in Awakening though.
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>>4681240
>We've been planning on Satsuki turning into a vampire since almost the beginning
no we haven't
>Our attempt to save her was somewhere between "half-assed" and "nonexistent"
As far as we knew, the only person that could turn her was SHIKI, who tf expected Altrouge to get vengeful and turn her
>And literally who the fuck cares about Kerry?
Yeah i guess losing Kerry doesn't count as a defeat because you personally dislike him, that's cool man
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>>4681254
No one likes Kerry
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Right, well, anyway.
Calling in 20 minutes.
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>>4681255
I do
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>>4681260
You're the only one
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>>4681192
Supporting >>4681204
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>>4681248
I wouldn't say that a lack of consequences have caused us to develop a bad mindset at all. In fact, our boldness has rewarded us many times in the past and continues to do so.
I can think of some moments where we underestimated a challenge and suffered for it, but they're vastly outweighed by the times being confident has opened doors for us.
>>4681249
Awakening was set up so it was mandatory to lose every fight the first time around.
Every ability Aberich had would either not work at all or comically backfire, leading to an infuriatld has rewarded us severaling setback.
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>>4681255
I like Kerry fine, just not going to make a big deal out of it.

>>4681192

>Use a command spell on one of your Servants! (Who?)
Get Medea to warp us away
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>>4681204
Support
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>>4681255
I do desu. And you’re wrong, OP is both using our failures to motivate Shinji as well as using any overconfidence in his characterization. There’s quite enough struggle and adversity to deal with, way too much for a ‘Gary stu’. Besides if you cared about that, rather than asking for character deaths or maiming you should be asking for characters to be more willful.
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>>4681254
>no we haven't
Yes we have. A very quick search found http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4338676/#p4347597
and it's very representative of the attitude at the time, which was to let her become an absurdly powerful yet friendly vampire and have her use that power to help us.

>As far as we knew, the only person that could turn her was SHIKI, who tf expected Altrouge to get vengeful and turn her
Altrouge was a surprise to be sure, but we did literally nothing to prevent SHIKI from turning her.
>because you personally dislike him
I like him as a character, and I believe Zero was kino, but the only reason we lost him is because we voted to abandon him and never, ever try to look him up. We could have easily done more if we really cared. That really is proof that we don't.

>>4681267
There is a difference between boldness and idiocy. I think we've long past into the territory of the latter. The first warning shot was when we charged headlong into Manaka's home turf and got spanked, but we seem to have learned very little from that debacle.
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>>4681282
>Altrouge was a surprise to be sure, but we did literally nothing to prevent SHIKI from turning her.
Because Shiki was still in the basement.
Keep in mind that everything that happened in Misaki town was suddenly accelerated by Altrouge.
Also, regardless of what players at the time said, Shinji clearly didn't want Satsuki to become a vampire, and tried everything he could to prevent her from becoming the monster she was in Tsukihime.
>There is a difference between boldness and idiocy. I think we've long past into the territory of the latter. The first warning shot was when we charged headlong into Manaka's home turf and got spanked, but we seem to have learned very little from that debacle.
We didn't act irrationally there either.
Shinji prepared for what he knew or suspected he could be facing in the temple. Our failure to prepare for Manaka teleporting everyone into gbj isn't some foolish oversight, it's being blindsided by something we had no reason to expect.
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>>4681314
>Shinji clearly didn't want Satsuki to become a vampire
I quoted Shinji's thoughts from when he met Satsuki, which were very much about dealing with her being a vampire instead of preventing her from becoming one.
>We didn't act irrationally there either.
In retrospect we should have stopped assuming the War would be a walk in the park when Illya and Sakura fainted and Avenger was snatched by something unknown and unexpected. I don't exactly blame us for this though. I was overconfident at the time too, and there really was no way to predict Manaka specifically, some anons' trolling notwithstanding. That's why I said it was a warning shot. I do blame us for continuing to be reckless even after this warning shot. Chief example I can think of right now being when we went to talk to Mordred alone without backup when we knew who her Master was and what he'd done to our teacher. Or when anons literally voted for us to wait and die in the cell instead of escaping because they knew the worst that could happen was a funny dojo scene.
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>>4681330
>Chief example I can think of right now being when we went to talk to Mordred alone without backup when we knew who her Master was and what he'd done to our teacher.
You talk about this as if it was a big fuck up when it massively benefited us and greatly increased our chances in the coming battle against Manaka.
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You activate a command spell, directing the energy towards Medea as you shout as loudly as you can in the single second that you have before the dragon ends you. "Help me!" The red flash of light is immediately replaced by a purple one, just as the area around you rapidly darkens as the dragon attempts to bite you in two! You interior view of the dragon's mouth is thankfully replaced by that of Medea's concerned face. You would've preferred not to have had to use one of your command spells here, but there was clearly no other avenue of survival. Even a barrier of truth around yourself likely would've been shattered. It seems that the only thing that is capable of breaking constructs formed of truth is something that can also control Truth... useful information to now have, even if what you ended up learning is something really annoying to deal with. You never expected to have your own strengths be turned against you.

"Good work, Medea." You praise the woman for teleporting you away from what would've been a lethal attack, and you turn your attention back to the dragon. It's missing one of its wings now and is clearly no longer going to be capable of taking to the skies to attack you with the ultimate advantage over grounded foes. Though it's clearly angered quite a great deal, and you've only been given a moment's reprise by Medea's teleportation. Everyone is keeping their distance despite the incredible speed of the dragon, with Arcueid occasionally dashing about to attract the attention of the beast whenever it gets too close to somebody and simply dodging out of the way of any of it's tremendous claw strikes or attempted bites, the dragon is terrifyingly quick, but by her very nature, Arcueid is just one step ahead in speed.

You've got a brief moment to think about just what sort of action you want to take next. Shirou has a bow that is near identical to Archer's own bow drawn though it's a bit smaller to account for the height difference between the two of them, though his arrows seem to just bounce off! Of course, the projectiles he's using are likely just lower ranked mystic codes, he doesn't seem to have started to use Noble Phantasm arrows just yet, maybe he's worried about his lack of magical energy despite the mana rich surroundings? Saber is standing at his side, prepared to defend him from any attack that the dragon might make against him, she's probably wondering how effective Excalibur alone would be, and might be waiting for an opportunity to use it against the dragon. If you remember correctly, when she fought a dragon in her past, she actually needed the aid of Gawain to take it down, Excalibur alone apparently wasn't enough.
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SHIKI still has his hood up, so you can't really determine just how he feels about current events, but he does seem to have created a broadsword out of his own blood, you aren't really sure just how effective something like a blood blade will be, but it's not really like SHIKI is the sort of person you brought along for his ability to deal large amounts of damage. SHIKI is standing close to Shiki, seemingly worried for his adoptive brother after he got knocked off of the back of the beast. You almost think that Giselle has gone missing for a moment until you notice her standing behind you with her halberd drawn. Her physical abilities seem to be serving her quite well when it comes to surviving the rampage of the dragon. Betty is still focused on trying to slow the Dragon down with her Mystic Eyes! You aren't sure how much of an affect they are having, but the fact is that it's easily as quick as Saber is even while being slowed by Betty's Eyes... incredibly impressive for a beast the size of a castle.

The dragon stops chasing after Arcueid physically, seemingly understanding that it is pointless to keep trying to chase after the impossible to hit target! Instead, it once again begins to gather energy within its mouth! Is it planning to shoot out one of those laser beams again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_dXGoBlBok

Your theory is quickly proven to be incorrect when the dragon continues to gather energy within its mouth, more and more energy being gathered while you observe it and attempt to discover any more weak spots that it might have. You've noticed more than a few times that Arcueid attempts to return an attack with one of her own, but whenever she does, her attacks bounce off of the scales of the dragon, the scales seem to be clad in powerful magic making them immune to attacks relying on pure physical strength alone. If Arcueid actually wants to deal damage here, she'll need to use her Marble Phantasm, that much is clear... You had in truth wanted this to be a good training exercise for you, Shiki, SHIKI and Shinji, but with how things are currently going, no such things are going to happen. The Dragon is simply far far too powerful for you to able to rely on those three alone. It even managed to break your constructs of truth, there's no telling what else it could do if it was given the chance!
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You're observation of the abilities of the dragon end when instead of a tiny but quick and deadly beam of light, the dragon unleashes a huge beam of energy, wildly aiming at Arcueid who is clearly struggling to avoid being touched by the attack which erases the ground which she stands on! You don't know how much longer she can keep dodging the beam for, and you feel like that sort of thing could kill even her! You need to do something, or else Arcueid is really going to die!

>"Medea, teleport me to the dragon's face, I'm going after the eyes, the scales don't protect those."
>"Saber! Use Excalibur, now!"
>"Shirou, what are you waiting for! Shoot a Noble Phantasm at it!"
>"Arcueid! Stop playing around! Use your Marble Phantasm!"
>"If anybody has any sort of hidden trump card, now would be the time to use it!"
>Write-in...
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>>4681267
Rider, Saber, Archer, and Medusa were all defeated on the first combat encounter.
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>>4681409
Not true for Saber or Archer, and Roland was the first fight in the season.
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>>4681407
>"Medea, teleport me to the dragon's face, I'm going after the eyes, the scales don't protect those."
Let's get in while it's got tunnel vison for Arc.
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>>4681408
>"Medea, teleport me to the dragon's face, I'm going after the eyes, the scales don't protect those."
>>Create a Sword of Truth and stab it in the eye until it dies
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Why can't Medea just cheese teleport to cut the dragon to bits? It canonically cleaved off a chunk of Shinji's foot effortlessly before.
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>>4681424
Well Shinji is a human and the dragon is a dragon
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>>4681413
Alright, I remember Saber now, but we were straight up not strong enough to defeat her, it even got our master killed.
I don't remember a direct confrontation with Archer until we killed him though.
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>>4681408
>>"Saber! Use Excalibur, now!"
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>>4681408
>>"Arcueid! Stop playing around! Use your Marble Phantasm!"
>>Write-in...
Kaleido-Amethyst, Activate!
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>>4681408

>"Medea, teleport me to the dragon's face, I'm going after the eyes, the scales don't protect those."
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>>4681408
>"Medea, teleport me to the dragon's face, I'm going after the eyes, the scales don't protect those."
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>>4681408
>"Medea, teleport me to the dragon's face, I'm going after the eyes, the scales don't protect those."
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>consequences
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>>4681499
For all you can say about Alberich, he has had infinitely more sex than Shinji.
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>>4681408
>"Medea, teleport me to the dragon's face, I'm going after the eyes, the scales don't protect those."
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Hey, does anyone want to name our firstborn before we kill it?
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>>4681505
Still got mogged by the Overgrowth MC(RIP).
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>>4681552
Always liked giving Dragons latin names, how about Veritas?
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>>4681552
Type Truth
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>>4681565
Support. I guess
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>>4681408
>Saber, use Excalibur!
>Kaleido-Amethyst activate!

The Excalibur should at least distract the creature, but if it doesn’t kill it outright we’re gonna need extra mobility and firepower of the gem to finish it off so we’re not forced to burn more commands for instant teleports.
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>>4681565
support
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So who will be waiting for Dragon in Dojo?
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>>4681686
Shirou who tried to trace the truth sword earlier
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>>4681691
I am hoping for Tiamat Dojo with Tiamat and Kiyohime. And Fafnir as his Gil-like rival.
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>>4681695
Ooh, that would be nice topic for an April’s fools interlude
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>>4681408
>"Medea, teleport me to the dragon's face, I'm going after the eyes, the scales don't protect those."

It's nice to see Sweets has returned
>>4681409
>>4681249
>>4681429
Put your trip on big boy.
I know it's you.

>>4681505
Yeah with the worst girl, a loli bootlegged Illya.
Who then ended up being life linked to the shitty MC.
Alberich just reeked of incompetence, even from sex.
Chad Shinji could have any girl he wanted. But he's holding off for the sake of everyone.
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>>4681823
Edgar still the chadest of three.
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>>4681346
That's... pretty much my point. Everything in the "Command Seal armored fist to face -> kidnapped -> locked in a cell -> (un)dead" sequence was undeniably a failure and also undeniably entirely predictable on our end. It WAS a big fuck up, and the fact that we ended up benefiting through a convoluted series of events doesn't make our original actions retroactively smart.

>>4681408
>"Shirou, what are you waiting for! Shoot a Noble Phantasm at it!"
Come on people, we JUST got away from the dragon's mouth, let's not immediately jump back in it. Plan Archery is still salvageable. At least the dragon doesn't seem to have our regeneration.
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>>4681828
>At least the dragon doesn't seem to have our regeneration.
I think the Dragon is still trying to figure out its powers, it might be able to regenerate if given the chance to figure out how.
I feel bad for the dragon.
It's basically just been born and its own father is trying to kill it.
This thing was a product of our blood and Medea's magic.
It's our kid.
And it's 50 percent Arc tier.
We need to adopt it.
We can still get blood from it if we manage to calm it down
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>>4681833
I don't think "ROAR - Breath weapon" translates from Draconic as "Hello daddy".
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>>4681833
>>4681836
It is very confused dragon who need proper mother figure.
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>>4681836
We just haven't given her enough headpats yet.
Also if you were recently born, would you think that one of the ant sized people running around you were your parents?
We'll probably need to see if it is intelligent before we kill it.
Dragonblood+Dragon mount is the best outcome and they aren't mutually exclusive.
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Much as I’d like to tame this dragon it’s not going to be viable if it keeps trying to delete us and I’m afraid it’s only matter of moments before it regenerates its ability to fly...

I wonder if there’s any way we could get it to self sabotage with its ability because if not it getting used to them is not gonna work in our favour. Eventually the counter forces are likely get involved too and we’ll be in ground zero.

Maybe Medea could create a bounded field around us we could modify with some concept that would weaken the beast? No idea what that would be though, maybe something like brittleness to counter it’s scales or something to punish its size like inertia. Of course if it figured out how to impose its own will this could backfire horribly depending on how sapient it is.
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>>4681844
Aunt Sakura looking after the dragon of truth will give her experience for when we give her some dragon kids of her own.
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>>4681849
What if we need to tank its breath weapon so it understands that we're its parent?
If it erases shit with truth we should be fine right?
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Is there a reason why we're always pussying out/ choosing the pussiest route everytime?

I just watched CCC and Andersen (weakest servantof the universe) actually shitted on gilgamesh and even demand a payment to him for the roast.
But because of those principle of his to speak the truth, gilgamesh didn't even mad and amused instead.

Why can't we act like that? Why don't we have our own principle, and choose to pussied out for the safest route?
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>>4681853
We're bold enough when the situation calls for it ESL-kun.
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>>4681823
Do you really think it impossible that anyone would have a positive opinion about that quest?
I'm not Sweets, but the ridiculous hatred of his quest is hilarious enough for me to respond to posts like that.
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>>4681855
>any criticism
>"ridiculous hatred"
This is why people shit on you and your quest, Sweets. You overreact to criticism like a manchild.
It's also how I know it's you.
Maybe you shouldn't have railroaded so much.
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>>4681853
Shinji is a master manipulator with alien perspective on the world who uses his meta knowledge to get ahead and abuses his outworldy powers for fun playing with fundamental powers. For the sake of end goal of clearing all Nasuverse content the way he wants.
He is hardly all that different from our buddy Nyarly. With Nyarly even commenting on it himself because it is amusing.
No need to compensate by doing pointless bravado on every corner.
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>>4681858
>every first encounter was an automatic failure
>except it wasnt in these examples.
I fail to see the sensibility.
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>>4681860
It's amazing isn't it?
You made victories feel weak and forgettable and utterly pointless while every defeat was a humiliation conga line.
Alberich felt more pathetic as a character than canon Shinji.
How much rent does WhatIs pay you for his better Fate quest to live in your head like it does?
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>>4681864
>Alberich felt more pathetic as a character than canon Shinji.
That was big part of his charm honestly.
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>>4681864
You didn't even point out that Medusa was first fought when Lancer killed Berserker.
You really do just care more about how the story made you feel over what actually happened in it don't you?
Clearly an incredibly reasonable dislike.
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>>4681866
He was like a big disappointing downgrade over Yumigawa.
A third of the personality and triple the edge. Garbage.
>>4681872
Different guy, Sweets.
I don't really give a shit about your shitty combat encounters from your quest.
>how the story made you feel
Don't ascribe yourself too much talent there bucko, your story didn't make me "feel" anything. You aren't a good enough writer for that.
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>>4681872
Also, I know you're Sweets because no player thinks Lancer actually killed Berserker and every single player thought he was a killstealing fuckwad stealing all the credit and "helping".
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>>4681877
But it was really nice hubris. As far as his character development went.
All that Pride and talks about Ultimate Being slammed times and times again against monolithic plot structure and progression.
It really gives interesting perspective to Shinji and to the way story advances. I think I even remember pro-Roa talks in Awakening regarding whole Ultimate Being stuff.
I might enjoy such meta reflections a bit too much but comparison really drives a point in on how similar and different Shinji and Alberich and how their worldview transformed their reality.
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>>4681877
>>4681879
Sure, you felt nothing from it, which is why you're posting so aggressively instead of being silent or ignoring me.
Glad to see you've even forgotten he showed up to give us a stage to betray the Emiyas on rather than just ksing.
Truly, truly, reasonable dislike.
And I'm still not sweets, how much space does he even occupy in that empty head of yours?
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>>4681891
Yeah, I like that Shinji is generally fairly humble despite having overwhelming strength available yet Alberich is as arrogant as Gilgamesh with the combat skill of Astolfo.
A nice contrast.
>>4681895
I don't have to have emotional investment in your quest to enjoy telling you that you're a faggot.
That scene was legendarily shitty.
>how much space does he even occupy in that empty head of yours?
Good work stealing my insult and making it worse, just like what you did to Gulag's Akeldama.
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Can we go back to talking about adopting a dragon daughter now?
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>>4681920
Why would you adopt your biological child, anon?
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>>4681930
Ancient Rome influence.
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>>4681930
Because she just tried to eat us and needs to understand that we are her father.
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If we do manage to keep our dragon daughter alive and turn her into an ally then that means we'll be able to give everyone we want the dragon blood boost.
Even potential allies that join us later on.
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Dead quest?
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>>4681935
I don't think she will be understanding much of anything after we stab it in the brain.
>>4681936
I don't think that's going to be an option, it's enraged and wields ultimate power.
>>4681939
How do you figure anon?
We usually get our first update around noon if you didn't know.
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>>4681940
>How do you figure anon?
>We usually get our first update around noon if you didn't know.
Come on anon, why would you bite on such obvious bait?
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>>4681939
Maybe? Anon should post fanfiction of what happens next if QM gives up due to everyone going full special ed classroom yesterday.
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>>4681940
We just need to discipline it.
It's durable enough to shrug off hits from Arc who should right now have strength equal to it +1
I think an eyestab is unlikely to kill it.
I'm hoping to knock it out though.
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>>4681957
We could also use its scales to make armor
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>>4681959
Which will be easier if we keep her alive.
Honestly if we do get the chance to spare her we should totally take it.
I want a cute dragon daughter.
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Did we get longinus yet? Maybe we should have waited to do this.
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>>4681972
Nah we just need to spare it and maybe heal it so it understands we don't want it dead.
Think about getting Riding A+++.
Would it even work like that?
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Also how many days has it been since yandere fox? Seems like a lot of plot has to be wrapped up in a week's time.
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>>4681991
How many days has it been since the war started?
Like a week?
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>>4681991
One?
>>4682006
Three?
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>>4682006
Even less, I think.
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>>4682006
>>4682009
>>4682010
Holy shit we need a break
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>>4682010
I think we're on Day 6 right?
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Well, good... afternoon, everyone.
I had a very busy morning, and not a single chance to check the thread till now.
Thank you to the people who remained on topic.
I would appreciate if old drama about another quest wasn't dug up here though. I doubt it's going to help Sweets' motivation for finishing his quest if he is still even on the board at all if his quest is constantly used as some sort of punching bag.
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>>4682052
I love you
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>>4682084
Patrick I think you laid it on a little thick there
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"Medea, teleport me to the dragon's face, I'm going after the eyes, the scales don't protect those." It seems that out of all of your allies, the only one who is actually capable of harming the dragon is Shiki, and you don't really fancy his luck now that the dragon is basically rampaging with cutting another of its wings off or perhaps dealing damage in some other way. While Shirou might have a Noble Phantasm that can cut through the armor of the dragon like some variety of Anti-Dragon Noble Phantasm, you aren't even certain if one of those would be capable of damaging those golden scales, if it can break through chains made of manifested truth, it's a sure bet that the body of this dragon is almost completely invincible, only something that can negate invincibility like Shiki's Mystic Eyes has been shown to be able to do any damage... That's why the only way you're going to take this creature out is if you go for a vital spot that isn't protected by any armor, it's the only way!

"As you wish, Master." Medea quickly begins to cast her teleport spell while Arcueid continues to dodge out of the path of the destructive beam of erasure. She doesn't really seem to having too much difficulty in dodging it, and she isn't fatigued either, yet the dragon is showing no sign of letting up its attack even though it is clearly not having the intended effect on Arcueid, who seems to be more concerned with not letting the attack hit your allies than she does her own safety. Though there are some close calls, and she's undoubtedly in danger, the threat isn't quite as imminent as you first thought.

"Tροψα!"

Medea's spell leaves you standing on the snout of the dragon, behind you the dragon is firing its continuously devastating beam of energy, and it doesn't even seem to have noticed your presence yet. You need to act fast, if you can reach its brain through one of its eyes you'll be able to end this battle immediately! You project a sword of truth, your element was what brought this living disaster into the world, it's only right it be your element that takes it out. This was supposed to merely be a simple ritual to empower a few of your allies, but instead, you've managed to create a monster that could likely end the entire world if it got loose.
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Unfortunately, just as you finish creating the perfect golden blade, the dragon simply bucks its head too quickly in one direction, and you end up rapidly falling off of the side of the dragon's head! You try to readjust yourself in order to grab onto something, but you fail entirely the only thing that stops you from falling to the ground and being trampled underfoot is the fact that your pants leg ends up snagging on one of the dragon's mighty teeth, leaving you dangling upside down, momentarily helpless, right in the center of its vision. The blade of truth is still shining in your hand, and the dragon, finally noticing your presence upon it, stops the beam attack it was attempting to destroy Arcueid with and stares at you for a moment. Though it's eye is huge, you can see clear intelligence within it. This dragon isn't simply a mindless animal, and where before the draconic eye contained nothing but rage, it seems to be... strangely fearful now? The pupil of the beast has noticeably widened, could it have noticed the sword in your hand? Does it fear your own ability to manipulate truth despite having that very same ability? If it weren't so stunned, it could easily end your life before you even had a chance to use a command spell! So why does it hesitate?

If it is simply momentary fear and shock from the blade you wield, you feel as if you ought to capitalize upon it, but there's... something telling you it might go a little deeper than that. It's probably just a weird sort of sentimentality you have for the creature twisting your thoughts, after all, it's probably the only other thing that you'll ever encounter with the same ability as your own, born from your magical abilities. It would probably be best if you attacked it immediately to try to kill it, so why are you hesitating yourself?

>Use the moment of distraction to throw the sword of truth into the eye of the beast.
>Try to form the sword into a spear to launch into the eye of the dragon.
>Try to speak with it? (Say what?)
>Remain motionless, see how it responds.
>Write-in...
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>Kinslayer: A
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>>4682193
>Use the moment of distraction to throw the sword of truth into the eye of the beast.
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>>4682193
>>Try to speak with it? (Say what?)
If it's intelligent, it's worth a try. I mean we've negotiated with everything else.
>"If you can understand me, stop rampaging and put me down and I promise we won't hurt you anymore."
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>>4682193
>Use the moment of distraction to throw the sword of truth into the eye of the beast.
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Where are the people who wanted a dragon daughter? Here's your chance!
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>>4682193
>Use the moment to show off Reality Marble to the Dragon
If it seen our power and determined its superior quality to its it might has considered to submit to superior being? At least as far as manipulation of Truth goes.
We at very least aware that it was suprised by nature of its own powers.
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>>4682193
>>4682202
Supporting this.
Guys QM is throwing us a bone.
Dragon daughter
Dragon daughter
Dragon daughter.
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>>4682215
It really does feel like he's putting emphasis on the "It's intelligent" part.
Just gotta remember not to split the vote if we want it alive. Need to decide on an option and back it.
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>>4682193
>Try to speak with it? (Say what?)
>"Do you understand me? Do you understand what you are?"
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>>4682212
Not so sure about daughter part here but that Dragon probably our best possible asset versus Primate Murder and Type Mercury.
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>>4682193
>>4682221
+1
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>>4682193
>>4682202
Support.
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>>4682202
supporting
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>>4682220
I don't know why Shinji didn't realise sooner that it's not just a mindless kaiju.
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Calling in twenty.
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And when it accuses us that its existence is our mistake, we can tell it that it's a happy accident.
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>>4682193
>>4682202
support
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>>4682244
I think we were all expecting something completely different. My guess is using Shinji's Blood made it "Real" or something. If we used someone else's, it would have been more like the Colchian Dragon we expected.
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>>4682193
Remain motionless, see how it responds,
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>>4682193
>>4682202
+1
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>>4682270
I think whoever we picked would have given some traits to the dragon, and our Truth made it both the strongest and possibly the realest.
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>>4682193
>>4682202
sounds fun
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>>4682202
+1, well if we die at least we went for it instead of acting like a retard
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>Golden Fleece
>Golden Dragon
>Unkillable
ffs
Well played, WhatIs, well played.
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>>4682244
We spawned this creature with the intention of butchering it immediately upon its birth for a cheap powerup. Downplaying its sentience is par for the course.
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>>4682314
A very Magus way of dealing with things
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>>4682321
Also since the prevailing idea is to lose our nerve halfway through the fight, I'd suspect it'll retreat once there isn't anyone on top of it anymore. It certainly has no reason to stick around near a clump of people that were trying to kill it up until now.
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Do we need to have Taimat sakura to "tame" the dragon now? Jesus QM with the misdirection, this quest just keeps on giving.
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>>4682414
Sakura isn't with us as she can't be teleported, don't know if the dragon can be either
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>>4682193
>>Use the moment of distraction to throw the sword of truth into the eye of the beast.
LET"S FUCKING KILL SOMETHING ALREADY!!!
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sorry for the lack of updates today guys, I've just had no time at all for writing.
Nightmare.
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>>4682456
Take your time man. We'll still be here.
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'Medea, tell everyone not to attack, I'm... going to try something.' you mentally relay an order to your Servant as you stare into the large eye. You take a deep breath. You're betting a huge amount on this dragon actually being sapient and being capable of understanding what you're about to tell it, and if you're wrong, then you may as well have just signed your own death warrant. "If you can understand me, stop rampaging and put me down and I promise we won't hurt you anymore." You keep your voice calm as you try to explain things to the beast.

The dragon makes no real sign of properly understanding your words, and simply continues staring at the shining golden blade in your hand. "Look! A gesture of good-will!" You allow the sword to dissipate into motes of energy as you continue looking at the dragon. "You... can't understand Japanese, can you?" The dragon continues to stare at you, though the fear is gone from it's eyes, it does now seem to be somewhat calm now, and not about to attack. It's no longer in a state of rage any longer. "What about English?" You switch your language, hoping for a change, but the dragon remains in a state of simply staring at you, it seems to be responding in some way to the tonality of your voice.

"Come on! You've got to give me something to work with here!" You continue dangling helplessly as the dragon keeps looking at you. "You're clearly intelligent, right?" You start to think of ways you might be able to communicate with the dragon, it's pretty clear that your words alone are either incapable of reaching it, or it simply doesn't care for what you're trying to tell it. It's certainly not disinterested in you and your allies, but it is now staring at you with caution instead of outright hostile rage.

'Master... would you mind telling me what you're doing?' Medea's voice starts echoing through your mind as you continue staring at the dragon, and it's full of concern for what you actually think you're doing. As far as everyone else can see, you're basically just trying to have a conversation with what was previously a rampaging beast.

'I'm trying to talk with it, it seems to be intelligent enough to at least understand human language on some level, even if it doesn't actually seem to know any actual languages.' Well, that's not entirely true, you don't actually know if there are no languages at all that the dragon can understand fully, but if there is one, it's not one that makes up your lexicon. Medea remains wordless as you explain your actions to her, and seems to not want to continue the conversation, and just as well too, you're kind of a little busy right here.
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The dragon growls softly, and you can feel the warmth of its breath. If you're going to try to communicate with this thing, then you're going to have to give up on it being able to actually understand you, and rely on the tonality of your voice alone.

>Try to communicate with the dragon with a commanding tone.
>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.
>Try to communicate with the dragon in an angry tone.
>Try to communicate with the dragon in a happy tone.
>Try to... flirt with the dragon...?
>Write-in...
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>>4682510
https://youtu.be/uJYS76GBqZU
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>>4682511
Or flirt if no ones likes my suggestion
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>>4682510
>>Write-in...
Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong
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>>4682510
>>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.
I don't wanna flirt with the dragon as it is technically our child
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>>4682510
>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.
The dragon may not even understand what flirting is.
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>Try to... flirt with the dragon...?

Nasuverse is based in an eroge visual novel. Rule of lewd applies everywhere.
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>>4682527
>trying to flirt with yours and Medea's child
anon...
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>>4682510
>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.
I am your father. Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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>>4682510
>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.
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>>4682510
>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.
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>>4682510
>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.

If only to preempt the coomers trying to fuck a newborn literally created out of our own bodily fluids.
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>>4682510
>>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.
I've seen DND videos, I know flirting with dragons tends to backfire
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY57Vn0qTiU
>>4682510
>>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.
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is this the last update for the day QM? Wanna know if i can sleep or not
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>>4682510
>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.
Flirting would be the funny meme option if we want to see Taiga. But nows not the time.
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>>4682510
>Try to communicate with the dragon in a soft calming tone.
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>>4682510
Maybe Medea could try translating. If this is a modified Colchis it should be more familiar with her lingo no?

In the meantime
>calming tone
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>>4682766
Its been 4 hours. I’d say so.
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>>4682510
>Soft calming tone
Absolute madman QM giving us a Dragon Daughter.
Not really how I imagined our first daughter would be born but alright.
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We are a terrible father aren't we.
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I can't wait for Waver to show up.
He's going to be so confused.
By everything.
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>>4683252
"Hello Waver meet my daughter with Medea, this big ass dragon."
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>>4683261
I think it's going to be able to shapeshift into a human form.
Otherwise we'll never get to use her seeing as she's the size of a castle.
We're going to be in big trouble if she starts calling us father.
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>>4683270
Now I really want to see it calling Shinji "papa" and Medea "mama" in front of everyone.
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>>4683272
Given how it is still a dragon and Sakura has Tiamat I would expect it to refer to Sakura "mama" too.
Instant 99/100 with Tiamat.
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>>4683274
At least Mordred won't be the only girl with two moms anymore.
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Argh, sorry for crashing yesterday, I was just so tired I fell asleep when I was trying to write the update.
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>>4683294
Dont overextend yourself and take better care of yourself.
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>>4683294
No worries, man. You don't need to apologize all the time.
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You need to communicate with the dragon without relying on any words, but how? How on Earth are you supposed to keep this creature calm? It would obviously be a far more effective ally than it would be to simply kill it to use its blood and be done with it, but how are you going to get across to it that you won't continue attacking it if it will cooperate with you, or at least stop attacking.

"Now, lets just... keep calm, shall we?" You know for a fact that it can't understand your words, but the tonality of how you speak is something it obviously is capable of understanding. "It's all going to be OK, alright?" You feel ridiculous as you basically try to baby-talk a dragon capable of obliterating your body with a single movement of its body.

The dragon growls softly again, though you're fast coming to the realization that growls and roars are all this creature is capable of using, even if it could understand human language, it's not like it could speak it, not with the body of a dragon... well, not without some sort of translation magic or something, which it clearly doesn't have access to.

"Look, everything is fine, see?" You try to get the dragon to look at the rest of your allies, who are cautiously no longer attacking it any longer. "I'm sorry that we attacked you... I didn't understand that you'd... well I didn't think you'd be anything more than a powerful animal." You're basically talking to yourself as you keep your tone soft, though the dragon does scan your allies for a few moments before it turns its attention back to you. "So, if you wouldn't mind maybe... putting me on the floor? I'm sure if you do then I'll be able to find a peaceful resolution to this, I'm sorry for attacking..." Though in your defense, the dragon did start rampaging first, so it's not like you did anything more than defend yourself. Regardless of your motivations, you still need to get down to earth again, so you point at the floor, and the dragon thankfully seems to get the message of just what you want it to do for you.

It slowly lowers its head to the ground and you reach down and unsnag the leg of your pants as you reach a safe distance from the floor, falling onto your back on the snow covered floor of the mountaintop. It thankfully doesn't hurt on account of the snow, and it isn't cold either thanks to Medea's spell. The dragons head is still close to the floor, and it's still looking at you with a wariness in its eyes, as if it doesn't trust you yet. You're going to need to think of a method of getting it to trust you.

>Pet the dragon.
>Create something out of truth to try to communicate with it. (What?)
>Climb on the dragons back and heal its missing wing.
>Ask Medea if she can communicate with it.
>Saber is part dragon, right? Can't she try to communicate with it?
>Write-in...
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>>4683399
>>Pet the dragon.
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>>4683399
>Pet the dragon.

Goddamn, I didn't really expect the dragon daughterfags to be right.
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>>4683399
>Climb on the dragons back and heal its missing wing.
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>>4683399
>Pet the dragon.
>Climb on the dragons back and heal its missing wing.
>Pet the dragon.
>Ask Medea if she can communicate with it.
>Pet the dragon.
In order.
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>>4683399
>Pet the dragon
How could we not?
>Ask Medea for Greek word for healing
>go heal its wing
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>>4683399
>Climb on the dragons back and heal its missing wing.
Classical move from those boy-befriends-big-animal type of movies.
Plus in will further show up power over Truth.
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>>4683399
>Climb on the dragons back and heal its missing wing.
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>>4683399
>Climb on the dragons back and heal its missing wing.
It worked in How to train your Dragon
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>>4683399
>Climb on the dragons back and heal its missing wing.
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Calling in twenty
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>>4683399
>Climb on the dragons back and heal its missing wing.
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>>4683399
>Climb on the dragons back and heal its missing wing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz2ebJszxnI
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>>4683399
>Climb on the dragons back and heal its missing wing.

>inb4 we get a riding skill
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"Just... stay calm... alright? I'm going to fix your wing." You gently pet the dragon for a few seconds before you begin to climb on top of its head again. "Just stay still, alright? I know you must be really hurting right now, but I'm going to stop the pain and give you your wing back." The dragon, even though it is incapable of understanding your words, lets out a noise of agreement. It seems that it has managed to determine that you mean it no harm any longer.

'So are we... no longer going through with the ritual you had planned, Master?' Medea asks you through the mental link, clearly confused by your sudden change of opinion on the dragon. Honestly, it's a little strange to you as well, but you can't in good faith kill a sapient being formed of your own blood without feeling at least a little bit guilty. It would've been different if it were completely mindless, but you've effectively created life, so you feel responsible for it, and not in the way where you feel like you absolutely need to kill it. Not when it has shown a capacity for higher thought.

'If all we need is its blood, then is there really any issue with befriending the beast and simply requesting it give us some of its blood instead of slaying it?' Of course, convincing the beast to actually freely give blood might be a little difficult, but the benefits of having an actual dragon as an ally are too great, where the Colchis Dragon wouldn't have been very powerful as far as Dragons go, you can tell that this newly formed dragon is at the pinnacle of all Dragonkind, honestly, only Tiamat in her Dragon form would likely be able to defeat it... Perhaps Jörmungandr of Norse myth too, but that's more a Serpent than a Dragon anyway. You aren't sure on the specifics of the dragon's breath weapon, but from what you saw, there are very very few beings in existence that would be able to survive a direct hit from it.

You continue climbing up the dragon, the spikes are your only allies in your ascent, as the scales are impossibly smooth and you would certainly slip and fall if you tried to climb the slope of the dragon's neck without any support. Eventually though, you manage to finish climbing up the dragon's neck, and though you would've appreciated if it understood what you were trying to do and helped, you're kind of glad it didn't. After all, if it moved its head too quickly you would fall off and injure yourself.
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You walk for a few moments before you reach the bleeding tree sized stump of the dragon's wing... there's definitely enough blood gushing from the stump here to coat your body in it, should you wish, though it might cause the Dragon an unnecessary amount of pain if you were to do so... Should you perhaps wait and try to convince it later to let you use some of it's blood as a transformative agent, or should you just go ahead and try to empower yourself from the stump of the wing? You might not be able to get the full effects of the blood considering that you're still wearing clothing, and without Medea's ritual there's no guarantee that it won't be dangerous!

>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
>Cover yourself in the fresh blood. You might not get another chance if the dragon isn't willing to share later.
>Drink some of the blood. Why not go all out?
>Write-in...
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>>4683579
>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
Might backfire, and might anger the dragon. Better not risk it.
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>>4683579
>>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
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>>4683579
>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
Trade that potential buff for relationship points.
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>>4683579
>>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
our first taste of dragon blood can wait.
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>>4683579
>>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
Too late to turn back on the animal friendship path now, we're committed.
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>>4683579
>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
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>>4683589
Animal Communication: A++ awaits.
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>>4683579
>>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
beyond just the relationship aspect, we have no idea what that blood would do to us
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30 minutes
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>>4683579
Drink some of the blood. Why not go all out?
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>>4683579
>Drink some of the blood. Why not go all out?
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>>4683579
>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
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>>4683579
>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
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>>4683577
>Just heal the Dragon, you don't want to ruin a relationship with it immediately.
I hope the dragon doesn't turn into another waifu, there is already too many of them to manage.
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>>4683710
We're already skirting the incest line with Sakura too, don't have to do nothing with a dragon made from our blood
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>>4683718
i personally don't care, but lets see how this go, would be fine even if it dont go that way, to be honest.
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No, there's no point in just using the dragons blood now, and especially not without Medea's supervision. There's no telling what might happen to you! After all, if you're careless with dragon blood, full irreversible transformation into a dragon is actually a possibility, and that... well that wouldn't be ideal... at all. You've had enough transformations on that level for the day... and for the rest of your life too, in honesty. At least Amethyst is staying quiet, though it might've been nice if it actually provided you with some sort of assistance in the fight with the dragon, it probably would've found a way to mess up whatever you ended up requesting it do for you.

You simply place a palm onto the stump of the cut, and begin to heal the usually completely unhealable wound brought about through the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, it seems that it while it may have some control over the element of Truth, something that you had thought would be completely impossible for anything other than yourself to be able to wield, it has an incomplete ability to wield it. In fact, the only reason it is likely capable of using your power at all is due to it being born as something of an extension of yourself. Your blood and Medea's magic was used to make up the entire body of this creature, though it does bring up some rather worrying questions about whether or not others might be able to try to copy your power through the theft of your blood, it's likely only possible for the Dragon to use it at all due to the fact that it was practically born in Truth. Whatever knowledge that the original spirit of the Dragon of Colchis had held before it began its metamorphosis into the Dragon of Truth has clearly been lost, replaced with the mind of... well, it wouldn't really be unfit to say that this beast has the mind of a child. It attacked with no real tactics or skill, and was mostly just testing out what it was capable of. Had it fought with strategy, then everyone would have died except perhaps Arcueid.

Of course, it didn't come to that, and if you can befriend this beast, then what you did gave way to the absolute best outcome. Of course, while you might've been able to kill it, with a beast like this on your side, any attack on Manaka is going to be far more successful by default, after all, you're fairly certain that it could likely dispatch the entire Fourth Grail Wars Servants at once, with the obvious exception of Gilgamesh, that is. But even he would be hard pressed to deal with a beast like this dragon, you feel. The only weapon in his arsenal capable of dealing with the dragon's breath would likely be Ea. It seems that only Truth is capable of defying Truth, and Ea is actually a weapon that knows the truth of the world before creation, if you remember things correctly... or at least that's what Gilgamesh claims.
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While your healing would be easier and quicker if the missing wing of the Dragon was put in place properly, with the amount of ambient mana still being produced by the dragon, it is quite easy for you. You don't even really need to use any of your own energy reserves in order to call bring forth enough magical energy to fix such a large wound. If this is what magi in the Age of Gods were blessed with, it's no wonder that so many consider the current state of magic in the world to be so poor. Of course, not having to deal with gods is actually probably a greater boon than not having vast quantities of magical energy available is a curse. After all, back in the Age of Gods, most mortals were incapable of doing any form of magecraft with the ambient magical energy, and only those blessed with knowledge from the gods themselves were actually able to manipulate the energy of their surroundings, at least up until Solomon came along and invented magecraft for everyone else to use.

After a few minutes of heavy focus, the wing of the dragon laying on the floor just... vanishes! Or well, that's not quite true, it doesn't vanish, it simply moves. From laying on the floor to its correct position as being attached to the dragon once more... You were really only capable of healing such a large wound so quickly because of the dragon leaking it's magical energy everywhere. Honestly, if it is going to produce so much magical energy, it might actually end up causing mystery to properly begin to return to places... Alaya... probably won't like that. You might have to get the Dragon to seal it's own creation of energy somehow. You would use the meteorite fragment, but you left it at home in Fuyuki, you don't really get much use out of the amulet nowadays, and you don't think it's capable of absorbing this quantity of magical energy anyway.

As you ponder what to do about the dragon's continuous creation of magical energy, you suddenly feel something grab hold on your back... or well, you feel something snag the back of your shirt and begin to move you! You quickly look up to see that the dragon has craned its head around to look at you, and has decided to pick you up! It must be taking an exceptional amount of care not to hurt you, especially considering just how big it is in comparison to you, evem the smallest of its teeth are almost half as big as you are! It really is a tremendous creature.
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It sets you carefully down on the ground, and this time you don't trip or fall on the snow. It then very gently nudges against you, and you pet it on the snout again. Out of the corner of your eye, you can see your allies looking upon the scene in complete bewilderment, even Arcueid doesn't know what to make of your sudden befriending of the dragon. "There. I told you that I'd fix your wing, didn't I? There's no reason to be afraid or angry, right?" You keep your calming tone up for a while before you chuckle. "It's funny, it feels like I'm acting like I'm your father or something." Honestly, when you think about it, that's not exactly an incorrect assessment, this dragon was formed out of your blood, and you do feel a very odd connection between yourself and the dragon.

The dragon purrs softly, no longer growling at all, and then begins to glow gold, and you're forced to take your eyes off the majestic beast as the shine grows greater and greater. Just like when it was first born, you aren't capable of looking upon whatever the dragon is doing for fear of damaging your eyes... though you suppose they'd probably heal anyway, you aren't really prepared for temporary blindness for however long.

When you look back at where the dragon was, it's just... not there anymore. There's no sign of the humongous dragon at all. Did it... really just disappear!? After all that it just ran off! Damn it! This was a complete waste of ti-

A tugging on your sleeve breaks you out of your building anger, and you look down to see a small green-blue haired girl with horns looking up at you. Her large blue eyes look happy, and you remain silent for a few seconds as you look at the girl.

"Father?" The unknown girl speaks. "Father." She speaks again. "Father?" She just keeps repeating the word over and over again... this... this is the dragon, isn't it? It was a female all along!? Wait! Of course it was, you remember that the spirit of the Golden Fleece was a girl as well! The girl is clearly waiting for you to respond, and you don't really know what to say. Well, you need to say something.

>"Yes, I'm your father."
>"I guess I'm your father, depending on how you want to look at things."
>"I'm not your father, sorry."
>Hug the girl. "That's right."
>Write-in...

Also, vote to name the girl.

>Veritas
>Alítheia
>Tomomi
>Ask one of your allies for a name idea.
>Write-in...
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>>4683749
>>Hug the girl. "That's right."

>Also, vote to name the girl.
>>Alítheia
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>>4683749
>Hug the girl. "That's right."
>Veritas

Well, as long as she stays as our daughteru, I guess
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>>4683749
>Hug the girl. "That's right."
>Point at Medea: "Mama."
>Ask one of your allies for a name idea.
>>"Fìrinn"

Betty will have some competition now.
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>>4683749
>>Hug the girl. "That's right."
>>Ask one of your allies for a name idea.
Idk, maybe ask Medea since she's technically the mom
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>>4683749
>Hug the girl. "That's right."
>Alítheia

Once again, WhatIs proves to be based.
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>It was given some rough art designs in Fate/complete material V where it is shown having a bad relationship with Caster
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>>4683749
>Hug the girl. "That's right."

>Alítheia
Greek word for "truth" is the most fitting by far. And a female word in Greek, to boot.

>>4683783
>Once again, WhatIs proves to be based.
Agreed
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>>4683749
You actually did it, you absolute mad lad.

>Hug the girl. "That's right."

Damn I can’t wait to see look on others’ faces.
And Medea better help take responsibility!

>Alitheia
Sounds good, maybe ask Medea for second opinion.
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>>4683749
Dragon daughteru get!
Support
>>4683778
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>>4683749
>Hug the girl. "That's right."
>Point at Medea: "Mama."
>Ask one of your allies for a name idea.
>headpat her
>Alítheia or maybe another vote for the options the allies give
>>4683789
the dragon is another existence now.
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>>4683789
If you're talking about the spirit of the Argon Coin, the spirit itself was basically just used as the base soul for the dragon, and as a result doesn't share memories with the soul used to make it other than in maybe a few dreams.
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>>4683749
>Hug the girl. "That's right."
>Alítheia
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>>4683749
And I'd like to add
>Point at Medea: "Mama."
to my vote at >>4683793
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>>4683749
>Dragon daughter happened
Huh. Nice.
>Hug the girl. "That's right."
>Alítheia
Makes more sense then Latin since Makiri started as Russian magus family and alot of Russian names comes from Greek ones.
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So, the important question now. Are we allowed to make Dad jokes?
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>>4683749
>Hug the girl. "That's right."
>Alítheia
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>>4683822
Thats a damn good question....I hope so.
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>>4683822
I'm sure our daughter(s) won't mind.
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>>4683806
Supporting
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Calling in thirty.
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>>4683749
Hug the girl. "That's right Veritas.
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>>4683749
>Hug the girl. "That's right."
>Alítheia
>Point at Medea: "Mama."
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>>4683813
Adding this to my vote
>Point at Medea: "Mama."
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Also point to Betty, big sister
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>>4683827
Adding this to my vote.

>Point at Medea: "Mama."
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>>4683806
Supporting, Wasn't expecting a heart wrenching morning today.
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>>4683749
>>4683806
Supporting
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Shinji is a virgin with two kids lmao
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>>4683962
Genderbent Demi Servant Mary in Shinji's body when?
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>>4683749
>Another loli
Damn, I was hoping for dragon son.
Being the father of a daughter is the most cucked thing in existence.
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>>4683962
At least this one has a mother. And she can help fix our problem.
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>>4683978
Something you'll never personally find out
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>>4683962
Once again, Shirou proves that he's still too based for us to compete
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>>4683995
God I hope not.
It's a fate I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
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>>4684002
Sour grapes
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So, is Redline even possible? I need to know for reasons.
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>>4684017
Sour grapes only applies when you can't get something you want and renounce that thing.
I and every sane man in this thread would never dream of wanting a daughter...unless of course they were perverts that planned to lewd their offspring.
But I like to think better of my fellow degenerates unless proven otherwise.
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>>4684034
Even though I agree with you, this is not the place to have that conversation.
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>>4684039
Shinji, the character we play as, has just been given a daughter.
The impact that daughter would have on him and as us as players seems perfectly relevant for this thread.
I'm not trying to have any serious conversations anyway. I'm just expressing my disappointment through shitposting. Like come on, not only is having a daughter the worst, we already have a glut of high quality cunny in this quest! Out big brodown was not only ruined but what we got as a reward wasn't brotherhood and comradery, or even a son to love and to teach our putang soaking ways, but another dangerous woman to manage! A dangerous woman that will surely send at least two of the other dangerous women in our care into a fucking fit! It's too much!
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>>4684059
Cringe as far as the eye can see
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>>4684065
No u
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>>4684059
While this quest is not lacking in the waif department, it is lacking severely in daughterus. I, for one, am happy with this development.
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Well, if this girl is going to think of you as her father, and in all honesty, she can't really class as anything other than your daughter at this point, then it's obvious just what you have to do. You sweep the girl into a hug. "That's right. I'm your father." This really wasn't how you were expecting to have your first child, but you suppose you can't complain. You hug the girl for a few seconds before you set her back down. "I'm your father and..." You point at Medea, you don't know how the woman is going to respond to this but... "And the woman over there is your mother." Medea visibly recoils in surprise as you say that, obviously not expecting you to suddenly single her out as the mother of the child.

"Mmmm... Mother?" The girl seems to be a quick learner, and despite having been born with a newborn's mind, she seems to be rapidly gaining intelligence and control over herself. "Mother!" She happily repeats.

'Master?! W-w-what are you saying?' Medea's incredibly flustered voice comes through the mental link you share with her, and you expected as much. The woman clearly wasn't expecting any of this to come from what she had originally planned to be a somewhat routine ritual wherein the result would've been simply slaying a dragon she summoned. Instead she ended up being the other half of a magical ritual that gave life to a new being.

'Well, we both had a part in her creation, didn't we? It was your magic and my blood that gave life to the girl, so we're her parents, there's no other way to think about it.' You try to explain things to the flustered spellcaster, it's a really very simple explanation as to why the dragon seems to think about the two of you in that way, though it does appear that the girl prefers you, seeing as she's yet to make any moves towards Medea. Maybe she's just waiting for her mother to accept her?

'This... Well... I... We'll need to give our child a name, Master. I won't have her be nameless.' Medea sputters for a few seconds through the mental link before she somehow regains her calm and some determination as well. Looks like Medea had the same idea you did, you are going to have to think of a name for the girl, and you think you've got quite the perfect name for her.

"Hey... You... Don't have a name, do you?" The girl tilts her head at you, not really knowing what you're saying to her, but trying to figure it out. You pat her on the head and smile at her again. You were thinking of maybe asking the rest of your allies for ideas for names for the girl, but there's really no point, you can't think of any name better for her than... "Alítheia. That's your name. Alítheia Makiri." You give the girl a wide smile as she looks up at you. So... does this technically make her the heir of the Makiri family? She has your blood after all...
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"Ah Lee Theeya Makk Airy?" Alítheia tries to repeat her own name, but stumbles on it, though she does seem to have recognized it as her own. "Ahhleefeya!" She says it again, this time getting the pronunciation closer to being correct. She seems to like the name, thank god.

"You're a fast learner, huh?" You ruffle the girls hair, and she hugs your waist. She's surprisingly not as powerful as you imagined she was going to be. Though it might just be a result of her taking human form, she looks about nine or ten years old, so such weakness is to be expected, right... or she might just be better at controlling her strength than you're giving her credit for, after all, even as a gigantic dragon she was capable of delicately grabbing hold of the back of your shirt with her teeth. Yeah, that must be it, Betty's age doesn't stop her from being nightmarishly strong so the girl must just have an incredible level of finesse with her strength!

Medea walks over to you and Alítheia. "I... must say that I wasn't expecting for this to happen." She sounds completely exasperated, but at the same time, completely delighted. It's not really the sort of daughter she was expecting she was going to have, if she was expecting to be able to have any children at all in her second life, but she can't help but smile at the girl too. "Come over here, Alítheia." She speaks to the girl, who turns in her direction.

"Mama!" The girl walks over to Medea rapidly, and tackles her with a hug that almost takes Medea to the floor, clearly... not that much finesse. Medea hugs the small girl tightly.

Alítheia begins glowing slightly, and it's at that moment that you realize that you're glowing as well! Not with happiness, but... actually glowing! "Medea, what's... what's going on?" You're just a little bit worried by the glowing, but it feels comforting, so you're not that panicked really.

"I believe we are being... well... blessed, if you'd believe it. By our daughter." The woman keeps her explanation short, and you don't know how to respond. A blessing? Like... the blessing of a god? Alítheia really is powerful, isn't she?

[Status Updated!]

You naturally understand just what sort of a blessing Alítheia just gave the two of you, and while it might have situational uses for yourself, for Medea, it just gave her a great deal more power. You feel like hugging Alítheia again and even tighter than before. But before you can, the rest of your allies finally decide to approach, with Arcueid at the lead.

"Would any of you like to explain what just happened? I'm... kind of lost, and so is everyone else." The normally incredibly observant vampire seems to have become completely lost by the turn of events, and judging from the looks on everyone's faces they aren't entirely certain of what they all just witnessed either, even Betty looks baffled. Alítheia is looking at Saber with curious eyes, can she determine her draconic nature from just a glance?
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>"Everyone! This is Medea's and my daughter, Alítheia."
>"It turns out the dragon was actually my daughter the entire time... crazy huh?"
>"Look, I'm just as lost as you guys, but I'm a father now, so there's that."
>Let Medea explain things to them.
>Write-in...
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>>4684090
>"Everyone! This is Medea's and my daughter, Alítheia."
>"Shirou, congratulations, you're now a godfather."
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>>4684090
>Everyone! This is Medea's and my daughter, Alítheia."
Let's introduce her properly.
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>>4684095
+1
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>>4684090
>>4684095
support.
Anyone think Sakura and Sacchin might not take this well?
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>>4684090
>>"Everyone! This is Medea's and my daughter, Alítheia."
>>"It turns out the dragon was actually my daughter the entire time... crazy huh?"
>>"Look, I'm just as lost as you guys, but I'm a father now, so there's that."
>"Shirou, congratulations, you're now a godfather."
>"and you sakura are her aunt, i guess"
heh
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>>4684085
>[Status Updated!]
So uh, I guess we can ride dragons now. That'd be neat if there were more then all of like one.

Does this mean if we go inside Sakura we can ride Tiamat?
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>>4684109
Not like we had sex or got married, we just bled out a child
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>>4684090
>>4684110
Support
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>>4684109
>She was born from an immaculate conception, i swear.

So this is how Mary felt huh?
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>Blessing of the Queen of Dragons: A++
Hahahaha, can't hate on new skills I suppose!

>>4684090
>"Look, I'm just as lost as you guys, but this is Medea's and my daughter, Alítheia."
AAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand Route Lock.
Congratulations folks, and bless up to ol' Caster for finally getting her route.
Not my first choice, RIP Satsuki but I can't say I'm made either.

>>4684109
Oh buddy, our fucking goose is cooked when we get back. It doesn't matter HOW we got the child! The fact that we so openly and happily accept it as Shinji's daughter and Medea as the mother will drive the other girls in the Shinji bowl off the deep end. Not to mention the inevitability of Mordred trying to force Shinji and Medea to get married because "children out of wedlock is baaaaaaad".

There are three ways I can see going down.
A) Depression and Acceptance: Resigned to the fate of shoveling roofs for all time, only worse because they knew the pleasures of love and lost it tragically.
B) Breakdown: Violent mental breakdown. Beasts will be released, blood free reality marbles will be stained forevermore, worst possible outcome, the closest thing to a bad end without being able to Dead End.
C) Baby Boom: Possessive mental break. The other girls start upping their game and start demanding children. Annoying, but manageable.
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>>4684090
"Everyone! This is Medea's and my daughter, Alítheia
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>>4684114
In more ways than one
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Medea might have some mixed feelings about gaining a daughter, considering the myth.
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>>4684138
We have to get our (clueless harem protagonist) skill to at least an A+ if we want to avoid bad-ending, lol.
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>>4684138
>Not my first choice, but I can't say I'm made either.
Yeah, I'm a Sakurafag myself but the past few updates have been pretty much game over in that regard.
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>>4684095
support

Medea down, Sakura, Satsuki, Touko, Illiya and Arcueid left to go.
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A magical dragon daughter doesn't neccessarily mean a route lock, you know.
I mean, it's not like Saber and Morgan had to get married because of their magical dragon daughter.
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Wonder what Betty thinks?
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>>4684172

I couldn't agree more QM! Also you've made my week with these past updates in sheer emotional value those posts had.
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>>4684172
True, but any route that doesn't include Medea has just gotten exponentially more difficult. We don't want to be an absent father, I assume.

>>4684177
Seconded
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>>4684175
Betty finally has a friend her age she's going to be ecstatic.
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>>4684180
You speak as if monogamyfags of any variety have ever had a chance.
Usually, the harem route is the most dangerous one, but here it feels like the only thing preventing the apocalypse.
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>>4684172
You talk as if Saber and Morgan's relationship is a good model for any sort of family, and wasn't horribly unhealthy if not outright toxic.
You might as well have said, "It doesn't necessarily mean a route lock if you're an asshole!"
Seriously. Shinji for all intents and purposes has a whole ass family now. And not the platonic friendship family I always try to push with Monica and Betty. I mean, young boy has a woman that's the mother of his child. What you're proposing is that it's ok to have another family with another person if you think you can handle it.

>>4684197
Since the very beginning, only a select few people wanted Harem route.
I can't sit here and talk as if that sentiment hasn't shifted at all, but don't talk as if monogamy isn't a pillar of this quest, much like getting Saber and Shirou or protecting Sakura was.
It's a Fates quest.
An all our Harem route feels like an utter cop out, and I don't think anyone in the Shinjibowl right now is a greedy bisexual like Rin. Maybe Arc? Is she even serious about persuing Shinji anymore? I feel like she's cooled off a ton, thank god.
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>>4684172
We are going to succed on a harem route and nothing will stop us.
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15 minutes. till I call.
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>>4684090
>>4684095
Support.
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>>4684211
>Since the very beginning, only a select few people wanted Harem route.
Haremfags have always been a minority, but they've carefully exploited divisions among the monogamyfags to make sure no one waifu won the Shinjibowl any time there was the remotest chance of it happening.
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>>4684211
Lets see how it goes, if they accept or not is not something we can be 100% sure as of now.
i feel like at least some would eventually not mind.
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Regardless of monogamy or not, we really have to talk to Sakura and Sacchin after this as soon as possible. Can't keep delaying it, as soon as they learn of this their issues will magnify by a hundred.
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>>4684229
First we have to decide on what we want to tell them or it'll be a disaster.
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>>4684225
Man, as a monogamyfag i gotta say, i'd prefer anyone and anything but a harem. I was rooting for either Satsuki or Medea, and hell, hooray i guess.

My favorite Fate girl is Mordred, but she's our king and kind of a bro.
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>>4684236
We need to save the multiverse first
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>>4684211
We just had a date with arc earlier in the day though she isn't like sakura whose life constantly revolves around us she might just be giving us a bit of space.
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>>4684236
Just tell them the truth, it's not like we snuck out to fuck Medea raw or anything.
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>>4684239
>Man, as a monogamyfag i gotta say, i'd prefer anyone and anything but a harem
Yeah, I definitely agree. I'm a Sakurafag first and foremost, but Medea has emerged as the foremost compromise candidate at this point, I think.
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Harem Chad's rise up!
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>>4684225
Given the current circumstances, I think you guys just failed thankfully.
But let's see how quickly I'm forced to eat my words.

>>4684226
I guess we'll see.
I trust WhatIs to write things well. Even this whole daughter thing that I've been complaining about has been incredibly heartwarming.
Harem route is just one of those things that I feel would ruin the quest for me. It goes against the spirit of the VNs in a way that doesn't spark joy.
Blah blah blah I'm a bitch baby.

>>4684229
Hard Agree.
I feel like the time to do this was before we got our magical daughter, but there's no time like the present.

>>4684243
Yeah, I'd take her affection ranking as a platonic interest like it is with Mordred rather than something romantic.
But you can never be too sure.
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>>4684254
>I think you guys just failed thankfully
I don't understand what you're trying to say.
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>>4684261
Just ignore him, he's the resident shitposter
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>>4684261
Freudian slip exposing his desire for a harem end.
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>>4684261
Oh sorry. I was assuming you were one of the Haremfags trying to slip through the cracks.
What I'm trying to say is that given how we got this daughter, it would take a real asshole to try to pursue anything with other girls when Shinji has a whole family already, so if this whole thing was a Haremfag plot, then they screwed themselves over.
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I want to see Archer's face when he finds out what we did to Shirou, possibly expressed with typical Shinji smirk
> "Yeah I got him married to Saber"
> "Oh and he's also godfather of my dragon daughter"
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>>4684274
I really want to see redmans reaction.
Also i hope he can have some brother shit with illya after this clusterfuc ends.
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>>4684270
Maybe if we had set out to start a family with Medea and had a kid the normal way instead of inadvertently creating one through freak magical occurrence.
Say the whole thread had decided on a girl to commit to that wasn't Medea, and events played out the same with us recognizing that we had created a sapient being with Medea, we wouldn't then be forced to belong to her because of that, would we?
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>>4684270
I agree, but there hasn't really been any long-term haremfag plot. It's just natural incentives. Any time we got a choice to fully commit to a given girl the option would be supported only by the monogamyfags who wanted that specific girl and opposed both by the haremfags and those wanting a single girl but a different one. Dragon Daughteru was just the one thing that could unite everyone in support.

>>4684283
Things would've been very different if we could have agreed early on to pursue a single specific girl, like we agreed to pair off Shirou with Saber, but that's precisely the thing sabotaged by the haremfags along with everyone who wanted a different single specific girl.
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>>4684270
I guess we've got different perspectives on how shinji should proceed. Arc, Sakura, Satsuki, illya, Medea, and probs Touko are my hard limits to the harem. Shinji is a multi-billionare that can fit the bill of all his wives and he can spend an idealyic life with his family. It's going to be like the loud house surely however at that point shinji will be filled with paternal bliss. May the Makiri line grow strong and plentiful, As the patriarch of the new bloodline you've got to have a strong start!
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>>4684278
>>4684274
>In the span of a few years we made him healthier, stronger, happier, got him married and gave him an extended family so he won't go die in Syria

M8, Redman will fucking hug us and cook us dinner.
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>>4684287
I can understand the desire to want your preferred romantic outcome to succeed, but this whole dragon thing seems like pretty weak ground to push it from.
I mean, it's literal asexual reproduction, if Merlin had been the one doing the ritual, would we be married to him now?
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>>4684304
Yes,
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Good job lads, looks like our plan to get an Evil Witch Wife is making some serious progress, even though it seems like we skipped some steps and ended up with a kid first, but still, nothing we can't manage.
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I'm usually against harems, but I really don't see a way for Sakura and Sacchin to not go into some sort of breakdown if Shinji rejects them.
I mean, this guy shows up, becomes the only light in your life for years, saves your life and you fall in love with him... and then some servant shows up and he picks her in a week over you.
Not gonna lie, i'd feel really bad for them.
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>>4684304
It wasn't Merlin that did the ritual though.
It was a rival woman, a rival woman that Shinji has announced to all the world is not the co-creator of this being, but its mother.
You're ignoring the emotional optics of what's been done here and choosing to look at things logically, which is fine and what we should have been doing if we wanted to avoid route lock and the upcoming misunderstandings.
But that's not how anyone else, not even Shinji, is looking at things right now.
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>>4684323
Lets see how things go.
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>>4684323
Shinji clearly doesn't see Medea as his wife as a result of this, and has only really focused on the fact that Medea took part in Alítheia's creation.
Obviously Shinji and Medea are now more invested in eachother as a result of creating a child together, but equivocating this to having a longstanding monogamous sexual relationship would be a misrepresentation of what happened both physically and emotionally.
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>>4684347
Why do you feed him attention, haven't we suffered enough?
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>>4684351
Just a hungry fish I guess.
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>>4684320
yeah that's my way of thinking too like idk, at least for them, i feel bad, they deserve it
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Not sure if concerning, but Ali do be looking kinda like Femme Fatale version Tiamat
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>>4684495
Femme Fatale tiamat is the only one that has any care about humanity, so i guess thats good.
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"Everyone! This is Medea's and my daughter, Alítheia." You decide to properly introduce your new daughter, as strange as the circumstances might be, she deserves that much. "Shirou, congratulations, I've decided that you're going to be her godfather." Shirou is one of the most reliable people you know, and would do anything to protect the people he cares about. He's an excellent choice for a godfather for the girl.

"Uhm... thank you?" Shirou doesn't seem to understand what's going on very much either, so you decide to explain things to him as well as to everyone else, it's not really like they've had anything explained to them, and you feel like you owe them something of an explanation after the battle you just dragged them through. It was incredibly dangerous for them to be a part of such a thing, thankfully, nobody was permanently injured.

"Well, we're not going to be going through with what we previously intended, considering the dragon we were battling was... well... not an enemy at all." You pat the girl on the head, who leans into your hand a little as you do. "It turns out that... well, she was intelligent enough to recognize myself and Medea as something like parents, considering it was Medea's magic and my blood that brought her into the world, it's an accurate assessment of our connection to her." You continue patting the girls head as you go on. "Now, halfway through the battle, I recognized that the dragon we were fighting was more than just a rampaging mindless beast, so I called you off, and as a result, she's taken a human form." It's a strange feeling, to have a daughter that is absolutely and unequivocally yours, yet to have had her suddenly appear with no warning. Even so, there's a part of you that will already protect the girl with your life, some paternal instinct, it seems, even though the girl despite appearing to be vulnerable is very much the opposite.

"Wait... She's the dragon?" Shirou looks even more confused now as he puts two and two together and realizes the cause of the dragon's disappearance. Though it looks like everyone else has already realized, Shirou can be just a little slow when it comes to stuff like that sometimes... At least when it's not a fight, where he starts acting far sharper than his usual passive self.
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"Yes, Shirou." You sigh for just a moment before you elaborate on things. "She clearly has the ability to modify her body to take a human form, it's not that unbelievable, considering that her body was originally made up of human blood." You aren't sure if she'll be capable of taking other forms, or if she's just limited to the forms of human and dragon. You're just glad that she's capable of transforming into something smaller than her gigantic dragon form, though the terrifying thought that this is just how big she is when she's effectively a newborn dragon runs through your head. She might grow to be the size of a mountain or perhaps an entire city if her current size is representative of an newly hatched dragon! Of course, that shouldn't prove to be an issue, dragons are immortal creatures that mature over centuries, generally. She's not suddenly going to go through a growth spurt where she becomes as large as a mountain even if she wasn't fully grown already.

"I suppose... congratulations are in order?" Saber doesn't really know what to make of the magically created dragon girl in front of her. She might be feeling a little bit of Déjà vu considering the similarities that Alítheia has to her. "It's a pleasure to meet you, Miss Alítheia." Saber tries to properly introduce herself to the girl, who hides from her behind your leg. An... interesting response to Saber trying to actually introduce herself, you must say.

"A daughter, huh?" Arcueid looks at the little girl cowering behind you and laughs. "She reminds me of Len, not one for many words, is she?" You shouldn't actually know Len, so you refrain from saying anything. "Still, Daughter? Wouldn't familiar be a more apt term?" Arcueid doesn't seem to have any malice or ill-intent in her words, so it's not like her question is coming from some sort of bad place.

Medea responds for you, thankfully. "Perhaps, but familiars aren't fully sapient lifeforms that also aren't dependent on a contract with a human for magical energy. In fact, with Alítheia's magical energy, she could likely cause a localized reversion in a country to the Age of Gods!" Wait... is that still going to be an issue? Medea doesn't seem worried, but you'd rather not cause the Age of Man to fall apart like this. "Though in her human form, there's not nearly as much energy being leaked out, she still has the potential, but right now, her Dragon Core is inactive, and she's not producing magical energy in large quantities as she was before." Ah, that would explain it then, it also explains why she doesn't seem quite as powerful now.
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"I guess that makes sense!" Arcueid just smiles at Alítheia. "I'm not the most well versed in terms of how magecraft works! Sorry if I'm being rude, Alítheia!" She really doesn't seem to mind the presence of the dragon girl, in fact, if you didn't know any better, you'd say that Arcueid wants to get a chance to talk to Alítheia by herself. Arcueid seems to be enjoying herself quite a bit.

Betty remains silent, and simply eyes Alítheia while she keeps her distance. You have no idea what's up with her, but maybe you should go and talk to her at some point? Could Betty have taken a dislike to the girl? Or maybe she's simply not quite as forgiving as everyone else seems to be? SHIKI and Shiki are just kind of milling about awkwardly now, clearly neither of the two boys have any idea how they are supposed to respond, and Giselle is simply keeping an appropriate distance from you, not too far that she couldn't come to your aid at a moments notice, she's keeping her face and her apparent reaction to this sudden development quite neutral.

"Now, Master, shall we return to the others with the good news? And... well, I feel a little awkward about asking you this, but do you still want to go ahead with the ritual with the dragon blood? Alítheia is... well she's both powerful enough and large enough to have enough blood to bathe everyone in, but it's... not going to be easy getting her to understand such a concept with her mind still developing as it is." Medea's face is clearly conflicted.

Pick one from both.
>Yes, go back now.
>No, you want to do something here before you go back. (What?)
>Write-in...

and

>Tell Medea that you'll simply have to try to get the point across to Alítheia without needing to speak with her.
>Tell Medea that you'll just have to wait for her to understand you, at her current pace of development, it should only take a few days before she can understand Japanese. Then you'll ask her what she thinks.
>Tell Medea that you'd feel awkward and bad if you tried to use the blood of your own daughter in a magical ritual, it just doesn't sit right.
>Ask Medea if she can't just to what she did to you to Alítheia, and painlessly extract some blood from her.
>Write-in...
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>>4684526
>>Yes, go back now.
>>Tell Medea that you'll simply have to try to get the point across to Alítheia without needing to speak with her.
We're as autistic as Shirou sometimes
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>>4684526
>>Yes, go back now.
>Tell Medea that you'll just have to wait for her to understand you, at her current pace of development, it should only take a few days before she can understand Japanese. Then you'll ask her what she thinks.
Believe, believe, the Dragonborn comes.
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>Yes, go back now.

well, we got something out of this encounter that was more precious than ultimate power.

>Tell Medea that you'll just have to wait for her to understand you, at her current pace of development, it should only take a few days before she can understand Japanese. Then you'll ask her what she thinks.

>Explain to our daughter that with her blood we'll become more like her.

Provisional option If our daughter opts for a blood transfusion, AND we need to give her a candy.

>Ask Medea if she can't just to what she did to you to Alítheia, and painlessly extract some blood from her..
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>>4684526
>>4684549
+1
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>>4684526
>Yes, go back now.
Time to break the good news to Sakura: She became an aunt in the ten minutes we were out of sight!

>Tell Medea that you'll simply have to try to get the point across to Alítheia without needing to speak with her.
No need to be hasty, we still have a week and I imagine it won't be hard to convince her.

>>4684549
>well, we got something out of this encounter that was more precious than ultimate power.
What do you mean anon? There is no power more ultimate than that of our dragon daughteru.
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Hmm, does our new skill affect targets that have been forcibly granted the Dragon attribute by things like Ascalon?
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>>4684526
Yes, go back now and Ask Medea if she can't just to what she did to you to Alítheia, and painlessly extract some blood from her.
Also talk privately to Betty. She's probably sad bc she thought of herself as our daughter.
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>>4684578
People should get used to us making ridiculous developments by pure accident. SHIKI's immortality, Sakura hosting Tiamat, King Mordred, summoning Morgan...
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>>4684601
Some of them were telegraphed desu, like with SHIKI, we only erased Roa, we didn't even touch SHIKI. With Sakura, Tiamat was sealed in Imaginary Numbers Space and Nrvnqsr's powers are based on hers
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>>4684601
One of the things I like about this quest is that every single one of these ridiculous developments makes sense in retrospect and could have been predicted beforehand.
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>>4684652
the only genuinely shocking development is King Mordred but the explanation still makes sense
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>>4684652
except manaka
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>>4684671
People were posting about Manaka back in the second thread.
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>>4684526
>Yes, go back now.
>Tell Medea that you'll just have to wait for her to understand you, at her current pace of development, it should only take a few days before she can understand Japanese. Then you'll ask her what she thinks.
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>>4684677
nobody expected 2 manakas
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>>4684812
Whatis felt the need to dab on the conspiracy theorists by making the plot exactly twice as insane as their paranoid delusions were.
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>>4684526
>Yes, go back now.
>Tell Medea that you'll just have to wait for her to understand you, at her current pace of development, it should only take a few days before she can understand Japanese. Then you'll ask her what she thinks.
I wonder if girls will try to outmaneuver each other now by spending time with Dragon Daughter.
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>>4684820
just like a Nasu plotline
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>>4684842
That implies that they have time to think and strategize about new developments and that this week hasn't been nonstop chaos with new developments and characters pouring in every moment.
For instance, think of the timeframe between summoning Morgan and now. The girls have had maybe two short conversations with eachother this morning, one of which had Medea and arc missing and now, roughly twenty minutes after leaving Shinji has returned with his and Medea's new daughter who is also a giant dragon capable of ending the Age of Man.
Nobody is playing chess here, except maybe Arc.
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>>4684881
Arc is just enjoying the ride.
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A thing to consider though.
This is the second time we created incredibly powerful being by using our powers or our bodily fluids. And while it is now clear that future possible children will inherit Truth powers it is safe to say that any magecraft which involves us or parts of us will results in similar way just how our Dragon of Colchis adventure went.
We can probably do a lot of fun stuff with Homunculus or Familiar creation should we delve deep into it. Remember how Beaky was buffed just by short contact with us? By now he is probably part of some lower world Great Old Ones pantheon.
This is also makes me curious how would Servant Summon went if we were to use ourselves as a catalyst.
>>4684881
Fair but also really cool on the Arc`s part.
Although I am hoping still that Sakura will go motherly on Alítheia due to influence of Tiamat.
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>>4684881
>ending the Age of Man
Hey, at least we can write off "saving modern magecraft" from our To Do list, silver linings.
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>>4684901
Arc is never leaving us now, we're just doing some Chaotic shit each hour, she’s probably having a lot of fun
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>>4684904
We tried a servant summon and got an avatar of Azathoth himself
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>>4684922
I am still under the impression that it was intervention by Nyarly rather then summon.
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>>4684927
mitotic command spell is breddy based ngl
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You know, now that we have a daughter the simiIarities I see between this quest and Fuck Me My Daughter Is A Magical Girl Quest are becoming more apparent.
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>>4684526
>Yes, go back now.
>Tell Medea that you'll just have to wait for her to understand you, at her current pace of development, it should only take a few days before she can understand Japanese. Then you'll ask her what she thinks.
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>>4684932
do the MC fuck the daughter on that quest?
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>>4684951
No but I think there was some debate about it, she got magic fox heat.
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>>4684954
unfortunate
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>>4684881
Oh and speaking of
>The girls have had maybe two short conversations with eachother this morning,
I am really looking foward to that interlude.
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>>4684526
>Yes, let’s go back now.

>It’s not on the table until and unless she decides to volunteer for such a thing.
>In any event, thank you all for being here with me.
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>>4684526
>Yes, go back now
>Tell Medea that you'll just have to wait for her to understand you, at her current pace of development, it should only take a few days before she can understand Japanese. Then you'll ask her what she thinks.
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>>4684526
>Yes, go back now.
>Tell Medea that you'll simply have to try to get the point across to Alítheia without needing to speak with her.
>Ask Medea if she can't just to what she did to you to Alítheia, and painlessly extract some blood from her.
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Go back is clearly winning.

>Non Verbal
>>4684531
>>4684578

>Wait
>>4684538
>>4684549 (Plus extra when the time comes)
>>4684563 (Plus extra when the time comes)
>>4684769
>>4684842
>>4684936
>>4685140

>Blood Exctraction + Talk to Betty
>>4684597

>Not unless she volunteers
>>4685159

>Nonverbal + Potential Extract
>>4685159


Interlude is coming along.
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>>4685163
>spoiler
Yesss
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"Yeah, I think we should head back now, there's no real reason I can think of to just keep standing around here, and we do still have a busy day ahead of us." While it might've been a good chance to talk to one of your allies, it's not like you won't have plenty of opportunity to do so later "As for Alítheia's blood? I feel like we should wait until she's mentally developed enough to properly discuss it with us, at her current rate of maturing it shouldn't be more than a few days until she's capable of holding a full conversation with us, right?"

"I believe that to be the case, yes." Medea responds to your question positively, looks like she believes the same thing that you do, and that Alítheia's mental development is much faster than it would be other beings as a result of her supernatural nature.

"Then there's no harm in waiting, is there?" Honestly, if you're going to treat the girl like she's your daughter from now on, you feel like you should at least wait until she has mentally developed enough before you start trying to treat her like she is some sort of magical resource to be used to strengthen you, you feel bad enough as it is for trying to kill her the moment she was born, but she doesn't seem to have held that against you. She was rampaging out of control after all, and you did stop the moment you realized that she was more than just a beast. Still, it does hurt just a little bit knowing that you orchestrated her losing her wing for a while and suffering a great deal of pain because of it. "Now, I think it's time to head back, so could everyone please take somebody's hand?" You end up holding Alítheia's hand on one side, and Arcueid's hand on the other. Medea was struggling for a moment to pick between your hand or Alítheia's free hand, but Arcueid made her decision for her.

"Tροψα!"

Medea casts her spacial relocation magecraft once again, and you start to feel like it's totally cheating to be able to rely on her magic once again. The utility presented by the ability to teleport is something that far outstrips effectively any other ability, at least for you. Haste is key, especially with Manaka trying to end the world like she is or whatever her grand plan is.

The scenery rapidly changes to the Tohno Mansion dining room, and while the looks on the faces of everyone are startled at first, they soon recover, and then turn curious at the new arrival, the little girl clinging to your leg and shying away from all the attention she is receiving. Funny that the girl who could kill almost everyone in this room would be so shy, but you suppose that such things are to be expected when you've basically only just been born.
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"Did you succeed then, Advisor?" Mordred is the first to comment on your reappearance, and is actually one of the few people left sitting in the dining room, Sakura and Satsuki are also still in the room, sitting on opposites sides of the room while they wait for you. "I see that you've brought somebody back with you, and they seem... oddly close?" Mordred regards the girl with curious eyes. "Who are you, girl?" The king demands an answer from the girl, who looks at Mordred for a few seconds as she seems to be trying to understand the question. Eventually though, a flash of inspiration appears on her face and she looks like she knows just what to say.

"Aleeafia Makirry." She's... still getting used to her own name, but she got the point across, well enough that it seems like everyone picked up on the family name, at least.

"Sorry, Onii-chan... I probably misheard... but did she just say that her last name was Makiri?" Sakura sounds confused.

>"That's right, Sakura, this is my daughter."
>"It's a long story, but basically, she's my magically created daughter."
>"She's the dragon we summoned. I decided to name her."
>"Isn't she cute?"
>Write-in...
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>>4685236
>Basically she’s my magically created daughter. She’s the dragon we summoned.
It’s not actually all that long of a story.
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>>4685238
+1
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>>4685236
>Basically she’s my magically created daughter. She’s the dragon we summoned with Medea.
>Isn't she cute?
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>>4685236
>"That's right, Sakura, this is my magically created daughter."
>"Basically, she's the dragon we summoned."
>"Isn't she cute?"
Almost everything fits with only minor edits.
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>>4685236
>"It's a long story, but basically, she's my magically created daughter."
>"Isn't she cute?"
In Shinji's defense, nobody predicted this outcome.
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>>4685243
>In Shinji's defense, nobody predicted this outcome.
Well, that tends to happen when you share bodily fluids with a woman without protection.
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>>4685236
>"That's right, Sakura, this is my magically created daughter."
>"Basically, she's the dragon we summoned."
>"Isn't she cute?"

>"You're an aunt now, Sakura!"
>"Alítheia, that's your auntie! Go give her a hug!"
The moment Sakura gets hugged, Tiamat will instantly respond with the trademark "Aaaaa!" inside her
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>>4685236
>>4685253
Support.
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>>4685236
>"That's right, Sakura, this is my magically created daughter."
>"Basically, she's the dragon we summoned."
>"Isn't she cute?"
It is going to be fun.
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>>4685253
>>4685236
Support
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>>4685235
>>4685253
support
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30 minutes.
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>>4685241
Adding this to my vote:
>"You're an aunt now, Sakura!"
>"Alítheia, that's your auntie! Go give her a hug!"

It's brilliant. Can't be mad at us while she's being hugged by her dragon niecu.
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>>4685236
>>4685253
Support
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>>4685236
Nvm this >>4685240
I support >>4685253
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>>4685253
Support
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>>4685253
Support! Man it's great that our first daughter was a dragon AND that sakura has Tiamat inside her. Easily smooths things over on that front!
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Can someone give me the dl on Tiamat and her fondness for dragons, specifically? I know almost nothing about Grand Order, and the wiki isn't that helpful in that regard.
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>>4685289
Tiamat is a dragon and a mother so us taking to dragon parenting should win us some points with her.
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>>4685259
Adding
>"You're an aunt now, Sakura!"
>"Alítheia, that's your auntie! Go give her a hug!"
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>>4685290
Ah, I see, yeah. I'd thought from the chatter that Dragons were her favorite children or something.
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"That's right, Sakura, this is my magically created daughter, Alítheia!" You try to get the girl to come out from hiding behind you and say hello to Sakura, though she seems a little worried by the idea of going to meet your sister for some reason. "Basically, she's the dragon we summoned, who ended up taking human form after it recognized me as it's uh... father, due to being created from my blood." You successfully manage to convince her to stop hiding behind you by continually patting her on the head and she finally comes out to let Sakura get a proper look at her. "Isn't she cute?" Sakura looks like she's been completely blindsided by the revelation as she looks at Alítheia, and though you aren't looking at her right now, you get the feeling that Satsuki probably has the same look on her face. "So... I guess this means that you're an aunt now, Sakura. Alítheia, go give your auntie a hug!" You push the girl forwards and towards Sakura, who unsteadily takes a step forward to meet the girl with a hug, it's fairly obvious that she doesn't quite know what to think about her new niece.

"Mama?" confusingly, as Alítheia is hugged by Sakura, she seems to mistake the girl for her mother, and you're fairly certain that she's not just repeating one of the few words she can say, especially not when she looks back at Medea and then at Sakura again before she speaks once more. "Mamas?"

"M-mama?" Sakura repeats the girls words herself, even she clearly doesn't know what to make of the girl she had just been told was her niece thinking she was her mother, Alítheia is definitely smart enough to know just what the word 'mama' should imply too, so what could she be talking about?

"Oh!" You suddenly realize just why Alítheia might be thinking of Sakura as her mother. "Tiamat! The goddess inside you is the mother of all life, and is at her core a dragon!" The revelation comes to you and then immediately crushes you. "Which means that for all intents and purposes, all of Dragonkind would think of you, the host of Tiamat as their mother in some way, as a instinct coded deep into their beings, and it seems that despite her unusual creation, that same instinct rings true in Alítheia. "This... might get a bit confusing..."

"Oh no, this... this is fine!" Sakura smiles at Alítheia. "If she's going to recognize me as her mother, then I suppose that's just what I'll have to be to her." Sakura seems to be happy to be promoted upwards from aunt to being the small girl's mother, and you realize that things... might be about to get a little bit complicated.

"The girl can't have more than one mother, you know, Tiamat or not, she was born of my magic and Shinji's blood, meaning that I am her mother." It looks like Medea doesn't really want to share the title of mother with Sakura, but... Sakura doesn't look like she's about to back down.
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"Alítheia seems to disagree, Caster." Sakura crosses her arms as she looks the magus from the Age of Gods dead in the eyes. "If she wants to consider me as her mother, that's her choice, not one that you can make for her." Sakura isn't exactly wrong when she says that, after all, if Alítheia wants to think of Sakura as her mother, then there's probably nothing you or anybody else on the planet could do to change her mind on things, but... should you get involved and take a side?

>Don't get involved, let the two women verbally spar.
>Get involved and take Medea's side.
>Get involved and take Sakura's side.
>Tell the two women not to start fighting in front of Alítheia.
>Write-in...
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>>4685345
>>Tell the two women not to start fighting in front of Alítheia.
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>>4685345
>Tell the two women not to start fighting in front of Alítheia.
Oh god, we made it worse.
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>>4685345
>>Tell the two women not to start fighting in front of Alítheia.
>"stop being silly, both can be mothers to her."
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>>4685349
+1
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It's time to make a Solomon tier move.

>"Sakura, you're her mother through being the host of Tiamat so at your very core you have to be her mother because all draconic existances are tied to Tiamat being the mother of all life. That doesn't make you any less of a mother for being yourself Sakura because the blood of Makiri flows in Alítheia as well. Medea, is was through our efforts in summoning Alítheia is what makes her our daughter, it was through my blood and your magic that makes her half of each other's efforts. As far as I see it we need to make up for trying to kill our daughter by being the best parents we can be, so please don't fight over Alítheia because she's both your daughters conceptually, spiritually and through blood."
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>>4685349
>"stop being silly, we can all be mothers to her."
>Transform into Mahou Shoujo Shinji-chan
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>>4685345
Support >>4685349

Of course this is not really about Alitheia.
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>>4685349
support
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>>4685349
+1
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>>4685356
I mean, they are both technically correct and their statements are not mutually exclusive in the slightest so there’s no valid justification to fight over the matter to detriment of the girl’s development.
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Call in 30
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>>4685349
Support
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>>4685345
Supporting >>4685349
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>>4685345
>Tell the two women not to start fighting in front of Alítheia.
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>>4685345
>>4685349
+1
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>>4685361
Feel like it's not about dragon daughter and more about us
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>>4685393
Definitely, which is why we need to set the standard early that the girls aren't allowed to our daughter as a proxy to fight over us.
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Uh, won't be able to start writing for another 40 minutes or so, so consider the vote uncalled?
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>>4685397
*use our daughter
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>>4685397
That thing about the two mothers seems more about setting up a harem end than just getting them not to fight over our dragon daughteru.
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>>4685404
For me, I just don't want to police who Alítheia bonds with because of relationship drama.
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>>4685361
>so there’s no valid justification to fight over the matter to detriment of the girl’s development.
They both want to take the mother role because Shinji is the father.
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>>4685397
Yeah
>>4685404
I guess if you look for that you could find that here but I feel siding with either where they both have valid points would be unfair to the other, on top of validating this fight.
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>>4685412
I agree, which is why we should stop them fighting, but two mothers thing is too hamfisted to be anything else with the connotations it carries.
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>>4685345
>Tell the two women not to start fighting in front of Alítheia.
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>>4685420
It would be if we were the ones trying to push it, but this is just dealing with how Alítheia feels about the situation.
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>>4685413
Yes, and they should not be doing that to the girl.
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>>4685427
But... we are the ones pushing it by floating the suggestion in the first place.
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>>4685397
I understand why though, they hitch their wagon to our daughter and they're with us for life since we sure as shit are abandoning her
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>>4685442
>since we sure as shit are abandoning her
Easy there, Marisbury.
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>>4685442
>since we sure as shit are abandoning her
You monster!
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>>4685435
In case it wasn't clear, Alítheia sees both of them as her mother already.
We didn't do anything to make her think this, and we initially introduced Sakura as her aunt, before Alítheia decided that she was her mother. We didn't choose for her to do that, but we do choose how to react to it.
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>>4685442
>since we sure as shit are abandoning her
Wanna rephrase that chief?
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>>4685446
>>4685450
>>4685452
Swear to God it was autocorrect
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>>4685451
Yes, it's likely they would have arrived at the same conclusion themselves. But don't you see how it makes a difference if it's something they work out themselves vs something we suggest and push for?
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>>4685456
Look, I understand that you need to be intentionally retarded to get your point across, but it's clear that this is going to lead to Magus Family Court if we don't say something now.
Medea and Sakura are both very jealous and possessive personalities that will fight to monopolize the people they care about unless they're told to knock it off.
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>>4685345
Tell the two women not to start fighting in front of Alítheia.
Parents shouldn't fight in front of their children
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Called?
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"Please, not in front of Alítheia." You interrupt the two women before they can get deeper into their argument. "It's not a good thing for her to see two of their... uh, relatives fighting, besides, who says that you can't both just be mothers to her?" Honestly, it's definitely the simplest solution if they both just agree to act as Alítheia's mother if they really want to.

"Pardon?" Medea questions you. Not expecting such an unorthodox solution from you, but in your head it makes total and complete sense. After all, if Alítheia is going to see the two of them as her mothers regardless, then why bother to fight against it? It seems like a completely pointless waste of time and energy to fight about who a girl who isn't going to budge an inch on how she sees things sees as her mother.

"Well, she obviously recognizes the two of you as mothers to her, based on her instincts, so what's the issue? It's not like there's anything normal about this entire situation anyway." Honestly, a magical dragon daughter being formed out of your blood and the magic of a spellcaster from the Age of Gods that due to the magical connection your sister shares with Tiamat sees both Sakura and Medea as her mothers... It's... not really that much stranger than Mordred and her relationship with her two mothers! In fact, given the circumstances of Mordred's birth, you'd actually argue that her case is even stranger than Alítheia's own!

"I... suppose I can accept that outcome." Medea doesn't sound like she wants to argue with you. "Alítheia... Are you OK with both of us being your mama?" The woman's voice changes to one of care as she talks to the small girl still hugging Sakura.

Alítheia for her part breaks away from the hug with Sakura and nods her head enthusiastically. "Mamas!" Well, at least she's happy with this outcome, though honestly, things are going to get fairly strange if people ask about Alítheia now, especially considering that she now has two mothers, and one of them is your sister. Even if Sakura isn't related to you by blood, that's certainly going to raise a few eyebrows among most people.

"See, that wasn't so hard, was it, Caster?" Sakura smiles at the little girl as she aimlessly starts to wander about the dining room. "She's clearly much happier with both of us as her mother, as strange as it might feel right now." Sakura seems to have a strange sort of understanding for Alítheia... Tiamat's influence, maybe? Of course, you shouldn't forget that while Alítheia might look like an innocent and harmless human girl, and she undoubtedly loves you, Medea and Sakura a great deal, she's still a dragon. So her thought process are a little bit more difficult for somebody like yourself to properly understand. So actually figuring out what she wants when she's incapable of proper speech might be difficult.
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"Please, there's no reason to keep calling me by my class specification, just use my true name, it's not like it's any great secret as to who I once was anymore." Medea tells Sakura in no uncertain terms to stop calling her Caster, and it does feel a little bit impersonal you will admit, especially when there are four other Servants who could go by the name of Caster in this war alone, Morgan, Merlin, Tamamo and probably Gilles underneath the temple, even if you haven't run into him just yet.

"Ok then... Medea." This feels very awkward, fortunately, you know of a way to change the topic to avoid this awkward conversation from having to continue on in front of Alítheia any longer.

You cough to get the attention of the two girls, and Mordred and Satsuki who had remained silent as they watched the scene unfold look to you as well."Anyway, we ought to be returning to Fuyuki soon, and there's... going to be an issue with just teleporting there, namely, you can't be teleported, Sakura. Which is why..."

>"...We'll all be taking mundane transport back to Fuyuki."
>"...You'll have to head back on your own."
>"...I'm going to split us into two groups. One to head back to Fuyuki, and the other to travel back with Sakura. (Write in group composition.)
>Write-in...
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>>4685633
I'm going to split us into two groups. One to head back to Fuyuki, and the other to travel back with Sakura. (Write. Shinji, Betty, medea sakura and Ali together and the rest separate
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>>4685633
>"...We'll all be taking mundane transport back to Fuyuki."
I'd rather not split up.
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>>4685633
>>Write-in...
We will all be riding on Alitheia-back to Fuyuki.
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>>4685633
>>"...I'm going to split us into two groups. One to head back to Fuyuki, and the other to travel back with Sakura. (Write in group composition.)
>Sakura group
Sakura, Shinji, Betty, Ali, SHIKI, Giselle and Arc
>Fuyuki Group
Everyone else
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>>4685633
>"...We'll all be taking mundane transport back to Fuyuki."
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>>4685633
>"...I'm going to split us into two groups. One to head back to Fuyuki, and the other to travel back with Sakura
How many passengers in a helicopter? We need Saber to pilot it and Shirou has to be taken along. With us, Betty and Sakura that's five. Everyone else will stay here and wait for us to mentally contact Medea and teleport them so we all arrive at the same time.
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>>4685633
>"...I'm going to split us into two groups. One to head back to Fuyuki, and the other to travel back with Sakura. (Sakura, Shinji, SHIKI, Medea, Betty, Ali, Mordred, Morgan)
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>>4685633
>"...We'll all be taking mundane transport back to Fuyuki."
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>>4685633
>I'm going to split us into two groups. One to head back to Fuyuki, and the other to travel back with Sakura. (Sakura, Saber, Shirou, Arcueid, Satsuki, Alitheia, Touko)
This leaves both groups with heavy amounts of brawn and magecraft, what with us taking Medea, the Ibaraki duo, SHIKI, Rin, Illya, the Maids, Mordred and Morgan.

Holy shit our faction is big.
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Hey, could Sakura go through one of Amethyst portals, if we push her really fast?
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>>4685680
Do you really want to put that theory to the test?

Calling in 30
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>>4685680
If we got Arc to throw her, it would probably be even faster than teleporting.
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>>4685633
>>4685644
>>4685677
switching to this
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>>4685633
>>4685677
Support
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>>4685677
+1
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>>4685677
Support
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>>4685677
We just got Alitheia and we are already just handing her off to Sakura?
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>>4685677
You forget Betty, Avenger, Lugh, Aoko and Shiki but I guess you can put the servants with the masters by default. Yes this faction is big.
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yay progress.
Nothing better than a cute child to make people stop fighting.
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"Which is why I'm going to split us into two groups. One to head back to Fuyuki, and the other to travel back with Sakura." It's probably for the best that you don't leave the girl to travel back all by herself, and though you've got some important things to get on with in Fuyuki, the idea of something happening to Sakura while she travels back to Fuyuki City is one that makes you quite uncomfortable. "Sakura, do you mind accompanying Alítheia back to Fuyuki with Saber, Shirou, Arcueid, Satsuki, Touko and Lugh?" You bring up quite a few of your allies in order to make it an absolute certainty that nothing will happen to her or any of the people traveling with her. "You'll be returning by helicopter, so you'll only be few hours behind us." There aren't any complains from those present already about your idea to split the group up into two smaller groups, besides, it's not exactly like the journey back is very long via helicopter.

"Really, you're not coming with me and Alítheia?" Sakura frowns obviously disappointed by your choice to go with the group not specifically mentioned as going with her via mundane travel, though you seriously can't spare the time to go with her right now, as much as you would like to.

"I've got a lot to do, Sakura. I can't afford to spend any time doing anything other than saving reality right now, and I'm afraid that extends to spending time with you. Think of this as a good chance to get to know Alítheia and maybe teach her a few things while you do? She learns incredibly quickly, and I'd love to see you have a good relationship with... your daughter." Damn it, that feels strange to say.

"Well, I guess that's fine, just so long as you're there to greet me when I arrive!" Sakura makes a request that you don't actually know if you'll be able to properly fulfill. It all depends entirely on how things go in Fuyuki, after all.

"I'll do my best to be there when you arrive, Sakura." You can't promise her, but you can at least promise to do your best. You don't know why she feels the need to make such a request anyway, it's not like she's going to away from you for more than a few hours. "Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go and find the rest of our allies to inform them of this arrangement." You step out of the dining room and begin to walk through the corridors once again, with your two Servants at your side, it wouldn't be that difficult to find the rest of your allies, you think, but you don't want to start relying on Medea's scrying abilities just yet, first off, you'll go check to see how Rin is getti-

CRAAKKOOOOOOOM

A great noise can be heard coming from the basement again, what the hell is she up to now?

>Go check up on Rin again, see what she's doing now.
>Go gather the rest of your allies and wait to go fetch Rin till you've gotten everyone else together.
>Write-in...
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>>4685921
>Go check up on Rin again, see what she's doing now.
It might be a good idea to check out the explosion sooner rather than later.
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>>4685921
>>Go check up on Rin again, see what she's doing now.
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>>4685921
>>Go check up on Rin again, see what she's doing now.
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Does anyone have a gameplan for when we get back?
I'd like to get a feel for the state of things now that we're coming back.
Reconvening with Ciel and getting the Spear are both musts, but what else do we need to do before the end?
Keep in mind that Manaka is growing in power every minute, so it might be a good idea to rush to the end, even if we'd lose chances to power up.
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>>4685952
Recruit Miyako and Sun Wukong, maybe Alan and Aife. Maybe kill Kirei?
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>>4685921
>>Go check up on Rin again, see what she's doing now.
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>>4685969
Yes we should definitely recruit Miyako.
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>>4685952
>Go check up on Rin again, see what she's doing now.
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>>4685985
Wait shit wrong post. Meant for >>4685921

Though to answer your question.

We should do the following
- Recruit Miyako & Son Wukong
- Find out what the fuck happened to Kiritsugu
- If alive, possibly recruit Kiritsugu?
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>>4685921
>Go check up on Rin again, see what she's doing now.
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>>4685952
kill Zouken
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>>4685988
You forgot
-Recruit Alan
-Recruit BB
-Make Sakura and BB hang out
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Bacon egg and cheese biscuit
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>>4685952
>recuit our fan #1 and her monkey
>try to find shirou's father
>do things with alan
>find BB maybe and see how funny her encounter with sakura will be
>think if killing kirei would annoy gilgamesh
Would BB and tamamo remember each other?
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>>4686020
BB would, most definitely, try to get back at us immediately upon seeing us.

With sakura nearby? BB would probably spill some timeline secrets that would most likely bring up some PTSD from her.
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>>4685952
Recruit Ayaka from Tokyo, she is apparently older in her 20s and can summon Proto-kun and can be used for pacifying Gil. Otome protags without glasses are powerful bio-weapons.
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>>4686066
She is assumedly Left Manaka's Ayaka, according to QM.
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>>4685921
>Go check up on Rin again, see what she's doing now.
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>>4685952
It is few hours so we can do few quick things like scrying for Kiritsugu to end his plotline and scrying and paying Zouken a visit.
Ciel and Waver should arrive in the evening after Ciel done her things and Waver made it to Fuyuki.
It is better off approaching Tamamo and Alan with BB full force just in case things go wrong.
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>>4686041
>BB
>Timeline secrets
From Extra or FGO?
Neither is really very relevant to us.
We'll get Alithea to bully her if she steps up.
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I want Kerry to be alive just so he can see all the shit that has gone down with his own eyes.
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>>4686336
>Helicopter lands
>"Hey, Saber, Shirou, I dug up Kiritsugu so he can give you both his blessing as well!"
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>>4686340
I seriously doubt that Kerry is dead. He got healed by Avalon.
He probably just got captured by the Einzbern and is being kept in gay baby jail in Germany.
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Haremchads.
We are winning.
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So what do you guys think Rin is up to?
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>>4686412
I am hoping she was trying to hack summoning system with her new powers.
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>>4686416
To summon who though?
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>>4686422

Presumably literally any servant. But for the memes and lols, I’ll say she’s trying to summon Ishtar.
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>>4686422
I would prefer for it to be gacha.
We get to roll.
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>>4686426
What are the chances we'll get a second Morgan?
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>>4686422
Murasama Sengo
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>>4686429
Without a Shirou to possess he'd just be a grumpy old man.
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>>4686431
It works in FGO, otherwise they wouldn't be able to have both Ishtar and Ereshkigal at the same time.
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>>4686432
That's because the FGO summoning system is bullshit.
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>>4686433
And this war is anything but normal.
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>>4686434
I think the line should be drawn at using our friends as flesh suits for Servants.
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>>4686427
Probably zero. But if she was pushing for it with Ruby and Second Magic she could have pulled PRISMA Illya or something since it would make patchwork summoning really unpredictable.
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>>4686432
Ishtar = Stay/Night Black Haired Rin
Eresh = Extra Blonde Rin
Too different people who were possessed. I want to keep normal Shirou and not possessed meat puppet Shirou.
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>>4686467
Two* autocorrect is cancer.
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>>4686467
No, both Ishtar and Eresh take over the same Rin which is the FSN one, Eresh more than likely has blonde hair as a cool reference and to differentiate herself from Ishtar
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>>4686470
?
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>>4686467
>>4686475
It is confirmed in game that both use Rin's body, not Extra!Rin.
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>>4686476
>both use Rin's body
That's not the first time that happened, heh.
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Part 1 of the Interlude

"So... I understand that I missed quite a bit while I was imprisoned underneath the temple, and I wager that a few people here are also similarly uninformed about just how much has happened over the course of this grail war." Mostly the new arrivals, Medea thought. Unless somebody has informed them of everything that has happened, then there's not really much of a chance that they are any better informed than she is.

"Mmm, quite a lot has happened, and even I'm not entirely certain on some aspects." She gets her response from Illya, who sounds a little frustrated about things, funny, considering that she has her Servant back and has had him since the failed raid on the temple, the boy in the suit who is apparently Avenger looks... familiar, very familiar. Almost as if she's met him in the past somehow.

"Then in that case, shouldn't everyone take turns explaining just what has happened?" Her Master's sister chips in, the girl doesn't seem as fussed about missing as much as Illya does, but clearly doesn't like to be misinformed. "We all know what happened that led to the girl under the temple taking everyone prisoner, but other than that, it feels like so much has happened that I've just gotten kind of lost." Sakura frowns, it looks like everyone is really in need of this catch-up.

"Alright, well I'll start then." Arcueid decides to chip in. "I'm sure that the rest of you have some stories to tell, but I was here with Shinji the longest in this town, so I understand most of what has been done here. In case you're not aware of who I am, I am Arcueid Brunestud, I'm the last True Ancestor... That will mean more to some of you than it does to others, I'm sure." Oh, well that certainly explains just why this girl feels so much more powerful than anyone else in the room, with the only one who even really comes close to her clear strength being the small boy with wolf ears. "Shinji was kidnapped and taken to this city by Rizo-Waal Strout on orders of his master, Altrouge Brunestud, my sister." Medea frowns at the mention that her Master was kidnapped, but he doesn't seem any worse for wear.

"Right, I was there, I let him escape." Mordred interjects briefly into the conversation. "I was forced into capturing him with a command spell by Rizo, so it was the least I could do..." The girl sounds kind of guilt-stricken by what she was forced to do under the effect of a command spell, but there's really no shame to be had in being forced to obey command spells, not many Servants can resist them or render themselves immune to her Master's set like she could through Rule Breaker.
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Arcueid waits for a moment before she continues to explain. "After he escaped, he ran into me on the street, and in the moments I was distracted, Slicey over there decided to sneak attack me and cut me into pieces." Medea can't help but change the focus of her attention to the boy awkwardly sitting with the red haired girl. "Thankfully, Shinji proved himself capable of healing even wounds that should've been utterly unhealable. So I wasn't forced to completely restructure my body's structural make-up. Then we took a brief detour and found that Satsuki had been turned into a... well a corpse by Altrouge." Satsuki smiles weakly as she is mentioned and brought into the conversation.

"Y-yeah, she attacked me, and... well, she definitely killed me... But I came back to life... sort of." The girl is a babbling mess, clearly suffering from some sort of performance anxiety as she is requested to explain things to the rest of the really rather large group of people.

"Yes, Satsuki had a one in a hundred million ability to be capable of resurrecting as a Dead Apostle mere minutes after her death. She might just be one of the luckiest people alive in the world." Or the unluckiest, the life of a Dead Apostle is a cursed one, but the girl doesn't seem to be much of a threat despite her status as a Dead Apostle. "Anyway, after that, we went to the Tohno mansion after reuniting with everyone, as that was where a... now deceased Dead Apostle Ancestor was hiding out, and we dealt with him." The vampire doesn't seem to want to go into much detail about just what happened with the Dead Apostle Ancestor, how strange.

"Afterwards, the next day, those two decided it would be a good idea to attack us in the middle of a business meeting with the Tohno that Shinji was using for cover, and were soundly and easily defeated quite embarrassingly, though they decided to join us of their own will upon having the situation explained."

"Y-you don't need to rub it in..." The girl dressed like a traditional Japanese shaman girl weakly tries to defend herself from the words of the vampire, and it starts to dawn on Medea just how much she has actually missed.
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>>4686486
>part 1
big nut interlude time!
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"Later on that day, we ended up defeating another Dead Apostle Ancestor, Nrvnqsr Chaos. Then we went looking for Altrouge and Rizo-Waal, who turned out to have fled the city." To so casually say that a Dead Apostle Ancestor was killed in a single sentence without any fanfare and the second too! There really has been a lot happening for that particular facet of information to not be worth any time to discuss, hasn't there? "Oh and some Church agent wanted to talk to Shinji or something... I think that's about it from me, though I did cut out a lot of the details, I felt it necessary so that we didn't spend too long talking about what happened here." She really did seem to be giving an incredible brief version of events, she must've skipped a massive amount of the specifics.

>Choose one ally to give their account next.
>Saber
>Shirou
>Illya
>Sakura
>Touko
>Satsuki
>Mordred
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>>4686489
>>Satsuki
She was kinda there for a lot of it
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>>4686489
>Saber
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>>4686489
>Mordred
The rightful King of Britain has to speak next.
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>>4686489
>Sakura
Time for Tiamat.
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>>4686489
>mordred
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>>4686489
Let's go with Mordred
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>>4686489
>>Satsuki
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>>4686489
>Sakura
longest story to tell
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So who will be the lucky one to tell rest of the room about Tamamo and her marriage plans?
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>>4686489
>Sakura
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Right...
On to the story update...
I'm going to need some d20s.
Average of Four, Crits override.
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Rolled 10 (1d20)

>>4686535
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Rolled 9 (1d20)

>>4686535
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Rolled 13 (1d20)

>>4686535
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Rolled 1 (1d20)

>>4686535
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Well, she is Average One.
>>4686544
So close.
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>>4686544
>>4686535
nice timing
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>9.25.
Ok, and now for step 2
Everyone roll a 1d6.
Most common roll wins.

1 = S
2 = L
3 = R
4 = A
5 = B
6 = A2
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>>4686551
I should mention that this has a time limit of 30 minutes.
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>>4686551
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4686551
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4686551
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Rolled 3 (1d6)

>>4686551
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Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>4686551

Let's try this again.
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4686551
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Rolled 1 (1d6)

>>4686551
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What do the letters stand for again?
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>>4686565
Breast size
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>>4686565
It's a mystery.
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>>4686565
penis girth
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>>4686568
But how fun this is going to be on the scale of getting black keys to Morgan?
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>>4686576
Well now that depends on what your idea of fun is.
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>>4686581
>The most powerful character in the Nasuverse
Simply too powerful, would defeat Manaka with ease and go on to bully Nyarlathotep.
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Rolled 2 (1d6)

>>4686551
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>>4686579
Hell on Earth.
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Rolled 5 (1d6)

>>4686551
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So is everyone cool with six or do we want to keep rolling for a lower number?
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>>4686588
6 is fine
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>>4686588
We have solid 666 going on here.
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>>4686588
It's the only one with a number next to it, and its the highest number, so i'm curious.
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>>4686551
Calling for 6
A2
It's your lucky day!
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>>4686598
>It's your lucky day!
It feels like every day is our lucky day lately.
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>>4686598
>inb4 A2 is Astarte
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>>4686599
This was more snatching victory from the jaws of defeat, if you'd believe it.
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>>4686598
>>4686599
How much more hax can we get on our side by complete accident? Immortal SHIKI, King Mordred, Dragon daughter...
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>>4686600
>phenomenal cosmic power Rin
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>>4686602
I can totally believe it yes
Though I require a detailed explanation after the coming update.
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>>4686603
i would say summing enkidu, but that would probably cause original ishtar to be summoned and that is a clusterfuck and a half.
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>>4686602
Are we going to survive Alitheia's puberty?
Is the world going to?
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>>4686608
she might possess Rin though so we might get an upgrade
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There is no way the Church and the Clock won't want us dead. We have way too much power right now.
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>>4686602
Do tell the details afterwards.
>>4686608
>>4686610
Oh no. Death flags all around.
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>>4686610
>>4686608
>Ishtar tries to possess Rin, backfires and Rin gets all her power.
Maybe a tad too busted.
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>>4686613
The Church would have wanted us dead even before we stole the Spear. As it is, we're now possibly on the top of their list.

The Clocktower can be reasoned with after we kill all other Lords and leave Waver in charge.
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>>4686610
she has no reason to use rin, she don't use her in strange/fake, she also just deleted the original personality of the person, differently than ishtarin.
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>>4686618
Didn't they use a homonculus as a vessel in F/SF for her?
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>>4686619
yes
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"I guess it's time to go see what Rin is getting up to... again." It's like she enjoys making magical explosions with the Second True Magic, though you doubt that was what she intended to do with it. Well, at least it seems like Ruby has finished calibrating itself to the Jeweled Sword now, so you won't have to keep waiting for Rin. "Come on, we need to make sure that she hasn't managed to get herself hurt this time." Somehow you really doubt it, but you can never be too sure with magical building rocking explosions. You really do wonder how Akiha is feeling about the continued explosions going off in her house. Oh well, she'll just have to learn to live with it, and it's not like you'll be staying around for any longer than today now that your business in Misaki Town has concluded.

Betty and Medea remain silent as you begin to head towards the Basement, though both of them easily keep pace with you, especially Medea, who after being blessed by Alítheia has become quite physically powerful for a Caster. Sure she's not going to win any strength contests compared to other Servants, but her strength is still very impressive for a Caster. As she is now, shes' unlikely to be defeated by Rin with her martial arts skills, the physical difference between the two of them would simply be too high even if Rin were to reinforce herself, but then that is subject to change considering that Rin currently has access to what Rin told you is effectively an ultimate version of the Jeweled Sword of Zelretch. Honestly, you have no idea how an all-out battle between the two women would go now, and hopefully you'll never have to find out either.

You quickly descend the stairs, and you soon see Rin with the Kaleidosword stuck in the ground giving off a large amount of magical energy, Rin is quick to take notice of the arrival of you and your Servants, and though she looks a little bit embarrassed to be wearing such clothes in front of your Servants, it's really not like the two of them would really understand why such clothing would be so embarrassing in the first place. After all, Betty is mentally a child still, and Medea actually knew a girl with cat ears and a tail in life anyway. "So... I take it the calibration went well, Rin?" You take note of a small thin line of energy hovering in the middle of the room, like a seam of reality that has yet to be torn open. "What... exactly are you doing?"
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"I'm glad you're here, Shinji! I wasn't sure if I'd be able to do something like this on my first try, but it was a complete success! By tracing back the link I have to Archer, I'm going to use that in an attempt to summon not just him back to my side, but everyone else who was taken captive as well! Ruby already showed me that it was a possibility to do so, so I just need to form the same sort of link and increase the radius enough to encompass everyone trapped!" Rin's voice sounds both frantic and manic, as if she's never been quite as excited in her life as she is right now, she's clearly excited to be able to one-up you like this, and if she pulls it off, you'll have nothing but praise for her skill.

"That's... very impressive, Rin!" You actually feel like cheering her on immediately as she tells you what she's planning, even if she shows you up a little you don't care if it gets you all of your allies back! "What are you waiting for?" You actually get excited enough by the prospect of Manaka's influence over you disappearing that you start to get impatient and tell the girl to hurry up.

"Fine!" Rin grabs the handle of the Kaleidosword and pushes it deeper into the ground. "Kaleidosword - Space Warping Protocol! Link to target established! Interference countermeasures active! Space weakening procedure active!" Rin starts listing off the steps of her spell, you're surprised that she didn't decide to use German, that's her normal go-to, must be a quirk of the Kaleidosword. "Target locked! Beginning spacial relocation procedure! Diameter set! Additional targets... not found?!" Rin doesn't seem entirely pleased by that last part of the incantation before she grits her teeth and keeps reciting it. "Activate Space Warp!" She says the final few words of her spell, and the seam in front of you that had been formed opens up for a moment before exploding in a bright light!

"You sure took your time, Rin." A deep voice comes from where the seam had been, and you recognize it immediately. "I was starting to get bored waiting for something to happen, you know." The light soon clears and you can see Archer standing in the middle of the room, his arms crossed and a smirk on his face.

"Archer!" Rin sounds incredibly pleased with herself as she realizes that even if her spell hadn't been as much a success as she was expecting, it was still a success. "It worked, Shinji! I told you it would work, didn't I?!" well, not as much as you said it was going to, but still, this is a victory you hadn't expected.

>"Good job, Rin."
>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Welcome back, Archer."
>"Welcome back, EMIYA."
>"Hey EMIYA, I met your boss."
>Write-in...
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>>4686627
>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Hey EMIYA, I met your boss."
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>>4686627
>>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>>"Hey EMIYA, I met your boss."
Literally doesn't even matter anymore, even if he still wants to kill Shirou he can't, Manaka and the potential Beast threat take priority
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>>4686605
Everything below 6 was one of the altered Servants

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>>4686618
Ishtar wouldn't even try to take control of Rin as she is now, in her current state, the weakened Divine Spirit Ishtar would probably actually lose the battle for control over her body thanks to Rin having the Kaleidosword and being far more powerful than she usually is. If we were to compare the difficulty in taking control of bodies in more mundane terms. It's the difference between trying to steal a bike and trying to steal a Boeing 747.
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>>4686627
>"Hey ARCHER, I met your boss."
>"i also hugged her, she is cute."
Lets not reveal that now, lets talk with him first.
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>>4686627
>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Welcome back, EMIYA. I met your boss not so long ago."
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>>4686627
>>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>>"Hey EMIYA, I met your boss."
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>>4686633
motherfucker how did we luck out like this
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>>4686633
>1 = S
>2 = L
>3 = R
>4 = A
>5 = B
Class names I see and we had Rule Breaker.
Still. I prefer this result just for the next update alone.
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>>4686633
You telling me we could've summoned Saber Alter if we picked 1? Shit, what a missed oportunity.
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>>4686642
shirou going to die if he has to fuck and feed 2 sabers
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>>4686642
We have like 3 people who have Rule Breaker and 2 people that can do teleportation shenanigans, I think we can manage to get Saber Alter
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>>4686627
>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Hey EMIYA, I met your boss."
>>4686633
>Everything below 6 was one of the altered Servants
Ah, A2 is Archer 2. Makes sense.
Could we have gotten hold of the altered servant and fixed them? Or was that just going to end in us having another fight in the house?
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>>4686627
>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Hey EMIYA, I met your boss."
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So, only Shuten, Cu, Monica and Bazett are still stuck with Manaka right? Poor Monica.
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>>4686645
Medea in her mythology cured Heracles of his madness and in the VN she seemed sure of herself to be able to purify the grail. She might have the skill to fix altered servants, that and we have Avalon so we could try that too
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>>4686627
>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Hey EMIYA, I met your boss."
>>4686645
I think A2 is just Archer and A is Assassin
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>>4686627
>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Hey Archer, I met your boss."
Do we really need to trigger EMIYA's suicidal autism right now?
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>>4686648
You forgot Rider.
Manaka will probably just start trying to take control of them at this rate.
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>>4686655
Manaka must be losing her shit at this rate. More and more keep escaping.
What's the most desperate move she could pull?
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have we actually gotten any sort of reaction or comments from Archer as to why this Shinji is so different from the one he knows?
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>>4686627
>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Hey EMIYA, I met your boss."

I for one am glad to have our smug redman back in action. Though I admit apart of me wishes we had also gotten Lancer back.
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>>4686658
When we eavesdropped on our allies talking about us, they were speculating that we could see glimpses of the future and Archer said solemnly that knowing how terrible one's own end is going to be would shake even the most stubborn individual.
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>>4686627
>Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Hey Archer, I met your boss."
>>4686654
I doubt that would ever happen at this point, the whole reason he tries to kill Shirou is to prevent him from becoming like Archer.
>>4686657
The funny thing is, we've only taken two people out of gbj through external means.
Rin just walked out, and Betty could have too.
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>>4686665
tiamat just "kills" everyone, normally.
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>>4686664
He also gives up on the goal during HF because he's still a counter guardian and his job takes priority over killing some autist. Manaka takes priority and it helps that Shirou is engaged
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>>4686668
We also gotta tell him Shirou is getting maried to Saber in this timeline.
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>>4686627
>>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
Calling Archer by his name in front of Rin, what could possibly go wrong?
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>>4686627
>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Hey EMIYA, I met your boss."
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By the way, if people think Rin's depressed over Shirou going with Saber, then how about setting her with redman?
I mean, maybe we could get him off his Counter Guardian job somehow? And he's technically Shirou still.
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>>4686627
>"Fantastic work. You really are a prodigy, Rin."
>"Welcome back, Archer."

not sure if mentioning his boss is in order since we never talked with her about him.

However, I worry for the rest of them...
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>>4686679
they aren't really the same even if Archer is a future version of Shirou
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>>4686679
we could help then get with each other, its not impossible.
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>>4686679
Would grown man Archer still want to go out with his highschool girlfriend?
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>>4686708
>his highschool girlfriend
Who is currently in a magical girl outfit with cat ears.
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>>4686708
He had a thing for Ciel so there's always that option
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>>4686712
He did? Where?
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>>4686717
He got his shroud from Ciel and I think Nasu implied there was something between them
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>>4686708
yes
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>>4686712
Rin's new harem will be Ciel and EMIYA.
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called?
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>>4686746
Yea
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"Fantastic work, you really are a prodigy, Rin." You smile at the girl happily, and she doesn't really know how to respond to your completely genuine praise that has absolutely no ulterior motive behind it. You are genuinely and truly happy for Rin having managed to save one of your allies, if it was only her own Servant instead of everyone, that's one less bargaining chip that Manaka has to use against you, and one more card in your favor for the eventual final showdown with the girl. Of course, you would like to be able to get all of your allies free of Manaka's grip, but you don't know if such a thing is going to possible at this point, after all, so many of them have escaped from her already there's certainly no way that you're just going to be able to go up to Manaka and request that she release some of your allies, even if you feel like your grasp on your powers has increased since you first met her, you can't help but imagine she's not going to be entirely pleased by how things have been going for her. You're actually kind of surprised that Manaka hasn't actually retaliated against you for rescuing so many of your allies back. "Oh, and hey EMIYA, I met your boss recently."

The room goes completely silent, the atmosphere completely changes. Rin doesn't seem to know just what to say, and EMIYA himself is looking at you with narrowed eyes. "You did, did you?" His voice is cold. "...and you know my name too, so I'm going to wager that either you were told everything about me... or you already knew."

"Sorry... EMIYA? I'm lost, what are you getting at here, Shinji, why are you ca-" Rin freezes as she thinks about something. Specifically, about just how similar EMIYA and Shirou's abilities are, you'd wager. "No... You can't be seriously suggesting that...!" Looks like she's properly realized just what's going on now, and how there's no other explanation for Archer.

"That's right, Rin. I'm sorry for the deception. But I am the Counter Guardian EMIYA, the result of a boy's foolish wish to save everyone at the expense of his own existence, that boy formed an unbreakable contract with the will of humanity to defend it from all threats, though in doing so, condemned himself to an eternity of killing endlessly throughout time."

"But... you can't summon a Servant from the future!"

"A correction to that, Rin. You can't summon a Heroic Spirit from the future. I'm not a Heroic Spirit, I'm a Counter Guardian... and I'd wager that necklace that you're wearing has something to do with why you summoned me in particular." Archer begins an explanation.

Rin looks down at her prized ruby necklace containing a tremendous amount of energy. "But... what are you talking about, why would my necklace summon you?" She sounds confused at the apparent connection between her ruby necklace and Shirou, though EMIYA isn't annoyed at all.
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EMIYA frowns. "It didn't happen like the way I remember in this timeline because of a certain somebody, but..." He reaches into a pocket before he pulls out a ruby necklace identical in make to the one Rin is wearing, even as Kaleido-Ruby she's still got the necklace on. You find it odd that Archer has yet to comment on Rin's outfit of choice, though odds are he probably already knows all about the Kaleidosticks and Zelretch in general. "In the past I remember, I was stabbed through the heart by Lancer, and I woke up in the school corridor with this next to me." The ruby necklace gleams in the light. "I never got to find out who was the one who saved my life that day while I was alive."

"But... you became a Counter Guardian? That's... awful! Did nobody tell you what you'd be condemning yourself to? Didn't I tell you?!" Rin sounds angry at her alternate future self, but Archer simply shrugs.

"I needed the power to save everyone, at the time I didn't think much of the consequences other than the fact that I would be given more opportunities to save people, though I was misguided in that. As for why you didn't stop me... we... well we grew apart as you focused on your magical studies and I focused on saving as many people as I could..." Archer sighs before he continues. "I could see you in the crowds... I could see you in the crowds, there to watch my execution... I was convicted of sabotage and terrorism and sentenced to be hung even though my actions saved hundreds of thousands of people, of everyone in that crowd, it was only you who wasn't calling for my death."

"And I didn't try to save you? What sort of horrible person is my future self anyway?!" Rin sounds irritated at herself for apparently just standing by and watch one of her friends die. "I suppose this explains some of the dreams I've been having..."

"Don't be so hard on yourself Rin, you couldn't have done anything unless you wanted to potentially reveal magecraft to the world and get us both hunted down by the Mage's Association, it would've been nothing but a life on the run for the two of us until the day we died." Archer tries to calm Rin's anger towards her future self a little, which is ironic, considering his hatred for his past self.

"But it would've been a life." Rin rebuts. "I can't believe I was so selfish to just stand by and watch you be executed for a crime that I knew you weren't responsible for!" Rin clearly hates the idea of becoming somebody like that, and you almost smile a little bit at her good nature shining through, you aren't entirely certain what sort of person Rin is going to end up becoming, but the very fact that she's mad at herself for not saving Shirou in that timeline is a good thing, you think. Though Archer is right in a way, she would've been sacrificing everything just for his sake, and he wouldn't have wanted that... That's probably what the Rin of the future understood.
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"Maybe, but I wouldn't have wanted to ruin your life Rin, you were one of the most renowned magi in the Mage's Association at the time." Rin seems a little surprised by Archer casually revealing another aspect of her future. "But, now that you know who I am, I need to talk to you, Shinji. I have no doubts that you're going to try to stop me from achieving what I want to do, aren't you?" There's a cool menace in his voice as he addresses you.

>"You mean get Shirou to kill himself? No need! He's engaged to Saber so he certainly won't turn into you."
>"How about I just see if I can put in a good word with Alaya and maybe have her loosen up the terms of your contract, eh?"
>"Of course I will, your plan was doomed from the start to fail, especially given that this timeline isn't even similar to the one that created you."
>"Maybe you got something wrong, but it doesn't matter because the thought of wanting to help others definitely isn't wrong, Archer."
>Write-in...
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>>4686785
>"You mean get Shirou to kill himself? No need! He's engaged to Saber so he certainly won't turn into you."
>"How about I just see if I can put in a good word with Alaya and maybe have her loosen up the terms of your contract, eh?"

Let him know Saber would probably keep shirou from pulling half the stupid shit he tried in the timeline that created Archer Emiya
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>>4686785
>"You mean get Shirou to kill himself? No need! He's engaged to Saber so he certainly won't turn into you."
>"How about I just see if I can put in a good word with Alaya and maybe have her loosen up the terms of your contract, eh?"
>This Shirou isn't the one turned into you. You are not his future. Shirou Pendragon won't go and die in Syria.
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>>4686785
>>"You mean get Shirou to kill himself? No need! He's engaged to Saber so he certainly won't turn into you."
>>"How about I just see if I can put in a good word with Alaya and maybe have her loosen up the terms of your contract, eh?"
>>"Maybe you got something wrong, but it doesn't matter because the thought of wanting to help others definitely isn't wrong, Archer."
Its a good dream to have, to want to save people
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>>4686785
>"You mean get Shirou to kill himself? Of course I will, your plan was doomed from the start to fail, especially given that this timeline isn't even similar to the one that created you. And you have no need to since he's engaged to Saber so he certainly won't turn into you. I will see to it."
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>>4686785
>>"You mean get Shirou to kill himself? No need! He's engaged to Saber so he certainly won't turn into you."
>>"Maybe you got something wrong, but it doesn't matter because the thought of wanting to help others definitely isn't wrong, Archer."
>>Write-in...
If Rin wants to stop watching from the crowd though, now's her chance.
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>>4686785
>>"You mean get Shirou to kill himself? No need! He's engaged to Saber so he certainly won't turn into you."
>"i'm honestly curious to see how good at swords their children will be"
>"He also is probably going to become a knight of the round table after we conquer England. So he would have less reasons to go to africa."
>"also i may talk to Alaya about letting you go? I mean, i can try?"
>"you do need a break."
>"illya is here by the way, you should talk to her about everything eventually."
>"... regardless, its good to see you again."
I may have written too much?
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>>4686785
>>"Of course I will, your plan was doomed from the start to fail, especially given that this timeline isn't even similar to the one that created you."
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>>4686785
>"Maybe you got something wrong, but it doesn't matter because the thought of wanting to help others definitely isn't wrong, Archer."
>"Let me put in a good word with Alaya for you, maybe we can change the terms of your contract so instead of cleaning up after the events you would actually help prevent them in the first place."
>"Besides, the Shirou of this timeline already took a different path. You'll understand when you see him again, and Saber too."
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>>4686785
>In the way you intended? Absolutely! But we'll find a different way to get you a better deal.
>Besides I'm not convinced your way would have worked anyway.
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>>4686785
>>4686788
Support
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>>4686785
>>"You mean get Shirou to kill himself? No need! He's engaged to Saber so he certainly won't turn into you."
>>"How about I just see if I can put in a good word with Alaya and maybe have her loosen up the terms of your contract, eh?"
>>"Maybe you got something wrong, but it doesn't matter because the thought of wanting to help others definitely isn't wrong, Archer."
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>>4686785
>>4686788
Support.

Lets give EMIYA a more happy ending this time around.
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>>4686785
>>4686788
+1
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>>4686788
+1
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20 minutes till call.
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>>4686785
Of course I will, your plan was doomed from the start to fail, especially given that this timeline isn't even similar to the one that created you.">"You mean get Shirou to kill himself? No need! He's engaged to Saber so he certainly won't turn into you."
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isekai!Shinji is a lot like Redman when you think about it, even though he thinks he's kind of a sociopath
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>>4686824
It's funny, but Shinji actually has a much better chance at being a "Hero that saves Everyone" than anyone else that has tried it in Fate simply because he knows so much about what is going on.
He doesn't really have the mindset of a superhero that wants to save everyone, but just by trying his best to help the people he cares about, he's done a lot more good for the world than most of the Heroes of Justice.
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>>4686836
even though he doesn't have Shirou's autistic mentality he still has the drive to want to help people. It would've been much easier to just abandon Fuyuki, live off stocks and do magic shit in London but we chose to stay
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>>4686838
Let's not kid ourselves, we stayed only for the waifus and our bro, Shirou.
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>>4686839
that's still staying for the sake of other people
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>>4686841
There's a huge difference between wanting to help the few people you care about and wanting to help absolutely everyone. The first is what all people other than literal psychopaths do by default. The second is a mental illness of its own.
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>>4686847
I think the more important takeaway is that helping the few people we cared about did more good than trying to help everyone.
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>>4686855
That I can agree with.
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>>4686855
I'd say the real takeway is wanting to save everyone and having the means to do so are two things with no correlation.
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Shinji is technically saving everyone preventing manaka from destroying reality.
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>>4686788
Supporting
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Who would you say has grown the least in power compared to their normal timeline?
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>>4686982
Illya
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>>4686983
But she's received the greatest increase in power out of all our allies, for she has become a gamer.
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"You mean get Shirou to kill himself? No need! He's engaged to Saber so he certainly won't turn into you." You decide to put things in simple terms to start with, besides, Archer needed to learn that ended up happening one way or the other, and while this might not be the best time to tell him that his past self has gotten engaged... what's the worst that could happen?

"I'm sorry?" Archer responds to you, his voice uncharacteristically shaken while Rin looks at you and Archer in surprise at you casually saying Archer was plotting to kill himself, though it looks like Rin manages to piece together why Archer would want to kill himself, so she stays silent.

"Yeah, well, after Mordred became the King of Britain, she decided that because Shirou and Saber were pretty clearly in love with each other, that the two of them should marry, so I told Shirou he should propose to Saber and uh... well she said yes, so..."

"Oh... What?" Archer sounds completely bewildered by the sudden revelation of a planned marriage between Shirou and Saber at some point, well, that and the fact that Mordred is King of Britain now, probably... that's just scratching the surface honestly. While other Servants might be able to easily accept what has happened around you as unlikely and strange, for Archer, the man ought to be completely baffled by what has happened in his absence.

"Yeah, and now Morgan le Fay is here as well because of a summoning gone wrong... It's a total mess, but that's not really the point. My point is that Shirou as he is now will never end up becoming a Counter Guardian, especially not if we can successfully figure out a means to get the Servants to stay in the world indefinitely after the Grail War concludes, and while I'm sure Alítheia or Mordred would have the magical energy to keep everyone around if they wanted, it's not an ideal solution..." Really, you need to find a way to incarnate the Servants so that they still keep their strength, sort of like how Mordred was incarnated by Caliburn, though that method was really a one time thing for Mordred alone, it shouldn't be impossible to find other methods.

"Sorry, but... who is Alítheia?" Rin decides to question the unfamiliar name rather than question the summoning of Morgan le Fay. Which is slightly strange, but you suppose that after Mordred, there's not really that much that can surprise her on regards to the Servant front.

"Oh, you don't know yet, do you Rin? She's my daughter, the dragon I ended up summoning with Medea was far stronger than the Colchis Dragon, and was an entirely new being that accepted me as her father." It was an unexpected turn of events and it did delay your plans, but it's a delay you're more than happy to put up with, already you feel a sort of unconditional love for the girl who shares your blood and element.
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"Riiiight." Rin sounds like she regrets asking, does she think that you're just pulling her leg or something...? Whatever, she'll probably end up meeting Alítheia soon enough anyway. Of course, that doesn't mean you're just going to leave it there, especially because of one quite important factor.

"Oh I wouldn't be like that, Rin. Seeing as she's also accepted Sakura as her mother due to the existence of Tiamat within her, you're her aunt!" You say with a happy tone, Rin's face pales slightly when she realizes that you totally are telling her the truth, and she just blinks silently at you for a few moments.

"What?!" Archer suddenly yells in alarm as you casually mention that Tiamat is possessing Sakura, it must've taken a few seconds to properly, looks like all that time spent as a Counter Guardian may have given him some knowledge of the bigger threats to the planet that exist, so it's only natural that he be startled by the mention of the Beast.

"Calm down Archer, Tiamat is perfectly under control within Sakura, she's not making any attempts to break out of her prison and seems to for now at least be content to stay inside Sakura, she's not a threat." If she was an imminent threat then Alaya probably would've already acted, you think. Seems like Alaya is perfectly content with observing the situation with Tiamat right now, with any luck, Tiamat might even learn not to hate humanity from her prison within Sakura. "Anyway, how about I put in a good word with Alaya for you to see if I can't get your contract relaxed a little? I'm sure if I asked nicely enough she'd at least consider it."

Archer remains silent for a few seconds. "You're kidding me, right? Are you saying that Alaya would null my contract just because you asked for it to happen?" He sounds terribly incredulous at your ability to convince Alaya to give Archer up.

"I don't know, maybe? I didn't really speak with Alaya about stuff like that at the time, but she seems to have a good enough impression of me that I don't think it would be that difficult to convince her to end your contract, I mean... it's not like she has any lack of numbers when it comes to Counter Guardians she has access to." What's one less Counter Guardian in the grand scheme of things? Archer certainly isn't the sort of person suited for the role, personality-wise. "Look, Maybe you got something wrong somewhere, Archer, but the thought of wanting to help others definitely isn't wrong." You remind Archer of just what should drive him. "Besides, your personal vendetta against yourself is going to have to wait, all of reality is at stake if we fail to stop Manaka, so I really need you at the top of your game here." You decide to tell Archer just what might occur should you fail to stop Manaka in order to make him serious, there's no reason not to considering that he would've found out anyway very quickly.
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"Hmph, so, what, you're offering me the chance to actually save everyone after all?" Archer has a complicated expression on his face as he realizes that in a strange way, he'll actually get to fulfill his childish wish to save everyone in the most complete way, if only once. "Alright, if that's what's at stake, I wont antagonize Shirou, as much as his tendencies might annoy me, you're right about it not being wrong to want to help others, so long as you don't go overboard with helping other people instead of taking care of yourself." Archer seems to have accepted your logic in some way.

>"I'll let the two of you catch up with each other now."
>"Actually Archer, I've got a few questions to ask you too. (What?)"
>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
>"Come on you two, we need to be heading back to Fuyuki now."
>Write-in...
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>>4686992
>"I'll let the two of you catch up with each other now."
>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."

Let's kill this before going back. And give Redman and Rin some time to talk after the bombs.
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>>4686992
>>"Come on you two, we need to be heading back to Fuyuki now."
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>>4686992
>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
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>>4686992
>>"I'll let the two of you catch up with each other now."
>>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
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>>4686992
>>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
just randomly dropped so much exposition on them
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>>4686992
>"I'll let the two of you catch up with each other now."
>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
Imagine Kiritsugu meeting EMIYA and realizing what his actions led Shirou into becoming.
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>Write-in...
>"Actually Archer, now that you're back with us an idea comes to mind. Would you be willing to let my teacher transfer your memories of the weapons you have stored up to Shirou?"
>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."

I figure this way we can finally have Shinji learn that Shirou already has pretty much every noble phantasm, and the shared memories might unlock Shirou's Reality Marble.

Also have we decided who we wanna power up with dragon blood? I figure Shirou is a no-brainer since the only reason he doesn't decimate everything is his low magic circuits, along with Illya since it might be able to grant her a longer life span.
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>>4687012
>>4686992
Whoops. Forgot to actually reply.
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>>4686994

Support, Maybe archer would like to see if his dad is okay this time around.
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>>4687006
>>4687012
>>4686992
Switching to this, also gotta remember that Shirou has swords that Archer has never seen before
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>>4686992
>>4687012
Support
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>>4687012
Switching my vote to this.
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>>4686992
>"I'll let the two of you catch up with each other now."
>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
We kinda dropped a lot on EMIYA's lap, let's wait for him to come to terms before asking him to share his swords with the guy he wanted to kill 5 minutes ago.
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>>4686992
>"I'll let the two of you catch up with each other now."
>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
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Okay, time to get EMIYA and Kiritsugu to finally meet again. Or at least, close this existing plothole
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>>4687034
I'm almost certain we'll have to spring him from chateau Einzbern, but it''ll be good to know for sure and put it in our schedule.
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>>4686992
>>4687012
support
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>>4687038
teleportation makes this a 2 minute job. Medea dabs on anything they could throw at the two of you even before her buffs
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>>4687012
Support
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>>4686992
>"I'll let the two of you catch up with each other now."
>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
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Here is just my speculation; Do you think rin would settle for archer? She is into shirou, And older men. Archer is an old man. It's the perfect fit.
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>>4686992
>>"Actually Archer, I've got a few questions to ask you too. (What?)"
About his experience while captured, if he can offer any specific insights due to his nature as a counter guardian on nature of separation between himself and the world. And if he overheard anything after Medea was recovered.
>>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."

Although helping Shirou play with marbles sounds great, I’m a bit worried about all the unrelated memories they might end up sharing.
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Slash Emperor EMIYA
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>>4687397
I can see it happening.
>>4686992
>>4687398
+1
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>>4687012
+1

>>4687397
No Shirou and Saber, but gets Archer and Ciel this quest. We should make it happen. Both Rin and Ciel are huge buttsluts to boot
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EMIYA has a master with effectively as much mana as Alaya right now, he can go all out with his sense of self intact.

>>4687424
He absolutely would sacrifice himself to Slash Emperor something that threatened the planet.
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>>4687493
Time for some Excalibur Image spam?
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>>4687525
I think that was only conceptually possible within the moon cell, but nothing a bit of Truth can't fix
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>>4687528
Shirou does it at the end of HF.
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>>4687493
Can redman get Photon Ray or is it too ayylmao? Orbital laser would be p handy
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>>4687530
Couldn't remember if that broke his brain because of overuse of Archer's arm or because it's a fae forged weapon that he couldn't properly conceptualise. Archer's scuffed Excalibur image in ccc is only capped by mana as he replaced all the fae bits with chinese knockoffs that he could create freely.

>>4687532
The sword isn't the orbital laser photon ray, it's just Mars being alerted to Attila's existence that makes him seethe and shoot a beam at her
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>>4687535
We really could use Attila.
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>>4687539
small, medium or large?
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If Redman gets Slash Emperor, he'll basically go from the guy Alaya uses to explode cults to the guy Alaya used to suicide bomb Types and Beasts.
A much better treatment.
I can't really see Tiamat or Kiara surviving Slash Emperor any more than a Type could.
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>>4687541
That would make Gaia really hate Alaya
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>>4687542
Gaia will only get fed up with humans if they kill her first or are going to outlive her.
We just need to ensure Gaia never dies and becomes a thriving center of a space empire.
I want Shirou to hurry up and use UBW already.
I want to see if his chant is different.
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>>4687540
Larva.
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>>4686982
I think a better question would be to ask the opposite.
Who has become the strongest?
Saber has superior stats and Avalon
Shirou isn't incompetent and has a fully stocked UBW.
Rin has her Kaleidosword and Magical Girl Powers.
Sakura has Nullification and Tiamat.
Medea has Dragon Powers now.
Mordred is alive and got some buffs from drawing Caliburn.
SHIKI is megaimmortal
As is Ciel.
Shiki probably has Ryougi tier eyes, a healing factor and is potentially stronger physically.
Herc is sane and an Avenger.
Tamamo is growing tails.
Probably some other people too.
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Just imagine getting another overpowered daughter. But this time she is from space.
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>>4687567
Ort-tan?
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>>4687569
Look at this qt.
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>>4687551
Probably us.
Not counting us, Rin or Sakura.
Maybe Shirou too.
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So we're getting Ayaka to pacify Gil right?
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>>4687590
If we can locate her then i will support that plan.
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>>4687592
I think people forget Medea can use her magic like a damn spy satellite.
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>>4687590
This conversation will be fun
>Your sister teamed up with a more deranged version of herself from an alternate reality to resurrect an alternate version of King Arthur (who is a woman in our reality) because she is in love with him.
>Her ritual will destroy the world in a week.
>We need you to seduce Gilgamesh, the ancient King of Babylon, who has agreed to help us save the world from your sister but who also plans to destroy modern civilization and rule over the remnants.
>Just remove your glasses and all will be fine.
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>>4687604
There's two ways to pacify Gil
Enkidu or Ayaka.
Clearly this means we need to get Ayaka to summon Enkidu.
I wonder how Gil would feel about our higher dimensional human thing if we told him?
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>>4687621
There is also Kaledostick Shinji- chan option.
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>>4687632
If we're going to go that route I'd rather Gil become the girl.
He definitely has something in his vault for it.
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>>4687590
>>4687604
I really want us to recruit Ayaka for the memes and how easy it actually is. We could get Medea to scry for her too so its not difficult at all to find her in Tokyo. Not only would we be able to pacify Gil, but we could get her to summon Saber Proto for more Saber Faces and his version of Excalibur is stronger Artoria's Exaclibur, with a fully unsealed version of His sword being able to easily beat Ea.
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>>4687649
>with a fully unsealed version of His sword being able to easily beat Ea.
It beat Enki.
Not Ea.
Ea is still supreme.
Normal Excalibur defeated Sefar anyway.
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>>4687650
Isn't fully unsealed Excalibur proto EX rank and gets more and more powerful the bigger the "threat" his opponent is to humanity and the world? So wouldn't it be able to easily best EA since Gilgamesh would be considered a threat to humanity and the world if they were to ever fight?
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>>4687653
Gil's not a threat to humanity though.
Quite the opposite considering his whole plan was about strengthening humanity.
He's got Clairvoyance.
His plan would've worked.
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>>4687659
I guess we need Ayaka more than ever in that case, Gilgamesh dosen't think about destroying modern society when an otome protag is involved for some reason.
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>>4687638
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>"I'll let the two of you catch up with each other now."
>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
>>4686994
>>4687000
>>4687011
>>4687027
>>4687028
>>4687334

>"Come on you two, we need to be heading back to Fuyuki now."
>>4686996

>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
>>4686998

>>Write-in...
>"Actually Archer, now that you're back with us an idea comes to mind. Would you be willing to let my teacher transfer your memories of the weapons you have stored up to Shirou?"
>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
>>4687012
>>4687015
>>4687018
>>4687020
>>4687063
>>4687147
>>4687488

>>"Actually Archer, I've got a few questions to ask you too. (What?)"
About his experience while captured, if he can offer any specific insights due to his nature as a counter guardian on nature of separation between himself and the world. And if he overheard anything after Medea was recovered.
>>"Hey, Medea... could you do me a favor and see if you can't magically locate Kiritsugu? I want to know if he's still alive once and for all."
>>4687398
>>4687428

OK.
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>>4687717
Forgot to vote for write-in version but are you going to create new thread?
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>>4687729
Yes.
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>>4687801
>>4687801
>>4687801
New Thread, I regret nothing.
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>>4687621
Going by Strange Fake if Enkidu is ever summoned while Gil is around Ishtar is chain summoned and hijacks the host with her 100% goddess cuntmode personality



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