The Grail War continues, and you've reunited two friends.You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.Archive of Paradox Reincarnator: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Fate/Paradox%20ReincarnatorGeneral QM Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=WhatIsAQMStatus Menu: https://pastebin.com/AcNswEHqShinji Status Page: https://pastebin.com/a6fiNxrZMy Twitter: https://twitter.com/WhatIsAQMLast Thread: >>4742170
Perhaps a map would work? Enkidu's Presence Detection should be more than good enough to effectively discern the position of everyone in the forest. Perhaps their appearances! Though that might be a little too much of a stretch for him to create, at least in a short period of time... and with Merlin purposely obfuscating things, that might just be more than a little bit difficult. Still, you have faith in Enkidu's abilities, just as you're about to go over to the two heroes though, something soft grabs you from behind, you and feel yourself being pulled into a warm embrace by Sakura. "I... I love you too, Onii-chan." She hugs you tightly from behind for a few moments, before she reluctantly lets you go, understanding that things are still dire. While you wouldn't mind spending hours like that, with so much at stake, neither of you can spend the time it would need to figure out your apparently now romantic relationship. Also, for as much as you love Sakura, you... might not be able to let yourself be monopolized by her. After all, it's not just Sakura that your heart seems to yearn for anymore.When Sakura lets you go, you walk over to the two heroes, who are seemingly chatting amicably with one another, though they stop speaking when you approach, and Enkidu greets you. "Ah! My savior, Gilgamesh was just telling me about you." Enkidu gives you a respectful bow, that you weren't really expecting. Gilgamesh doesn't follow along with Enkidu's gesture, of course, but he does smile at you, which unnerves you. "I need to thank you for the ability that you granted me too, now nothing shall be able to separate me from my dear friend again." Enkidu creeps a little closer to Gilgamesh."I'm glad that you're happy with the results, Enkidu." You smile at the beautiful green haired man. "Would you mind if I asked you for a favor?" You wonder just how Enkidu is planning to make use of the gift of Liberation that has been granted to him."A favor?" Enkidu tilts his head at you slightly, wondering just what it is that you could want from him. "That's right, I understand that you've got a powerful ability to detect the presences of other people, correct?" You already know that he has the ability, you're more just asking to gauge whether or not he'd actually be willing to help you or not by using it, which considering the circumstances, would be tremendously irritating if he didn't."Yes, that's right, do you want me to discern the locations of your enemies for you?" Enkidu asks you really quite earnestly, it seems that he's eager to please you, and even Gilgamesh doesn't seem to mind all too much. Guess he's just that grateful for all that you've done for him, in fact, if you asked him, he'd probably actually agree to accepting you as a friend, especially if Enkidu didn't raise any complaints. Though now isn't really the time for that.
"Not quite, I want to know if you will could use your abilities to make a map out of the surrounding area, like... of the forest? With clay figures representing the Servants that you could detect. You can detect their appearances to some degree too, right? That might help me figure out who we're up against here.""I can do something like that, yes, Shinji." Enkidu quickly turns around and places a palm on the floor. As he closes his eyes. "Give me a few minutes to create it though, you're asking for quite a lot from me..." Enkidu quickly gets to work."So, Gilgamesh, what exactly happened with Enkidu? Do you know how he was summoned here? Also, shouldn't you bring Ayaka back as well? It might be an idea to form a proper contract with her, as a magus, her abilities aren't the greatest, but it would be better to have somebody providing you with magical energy, wouldn't it? It would also allow you to get better acquanited with her, I'm sure.""Hmmph, you might be correct about that, Outsider. And as for Enkidu... I believe that he was summoned by the girl in the grail, as a trap to kill me with. She knew that I wouldn't flee from Enkidu, even if it ended up costing me my life." Gilgamesh is oddly taking a moment of self-reflection. "The girl would never have been as much of a threat if I simply destroyed the Holy Grail ten years ago. Even if she would have still attempted to invade this world, she wouldn't have had such free access to a near limitless reserve of Magical Energy, and she wouldn't have been able to enslave All the World's Evil to her own will either." Wow, guess that means that Gilgamesh really has seen the error of his ways then? Being around Enkidu really does chill him out, doesn't it? "Also, you're definitely correct about your other suggestion, I think it's about time that I took a Master again after Kirei was killed." Gilgamesh doesn't sound at all bothered by Kirei's death, then again, why would he? Enkidu is here now, and he obviously likes Enkidu and Ayaka far far more than he likes Kirei. You don't doubt that if they asked him, Gilgamesh would give Enkidu or Ayaka any treasure they wished from his treasury.A portal suddenly opens in the air, and Ayaka falls out of it, into Gilgamesh's arms. "Eep!" She makes a surprised noise as she falls into the arms of the King of Heroes, but then another portal opens, and another figure falls through it. Namely, the hooded SHIKI."Outsider, while I appreciate that you were concerned for the safety of Ayaka, I don't appreciate being stalked and observed from a distance." Gilgamesh looks down at the fallen SHIKI. "Also, I suggest you ensure that you train your spies better in the future. Immortality is no excuse for a lack of skill." The King of Heroes frowns at SHIKI, who quickly gets up, and upon noticing the presence of Shiki, still sitting atop Alítheia, who has now landed, and looking very confused by everything that has been happening around him, stays silent.
Gilgamesh then proceeds to put Ayaka down on the floor before he reaches a hand into the Gate of Babylon, grabbing what seems to be a small red sphere of energy, and handing it to Ayaka. "W-what's this?" The girl hesitates for a moment as she reaches out to take the orb. She still doesn't seem to know what to make of the overly forceful Gilgamesh, but she doesn't seem to dislike being in his presence. She's wearing her glasses at the moment, you wonder how she feels about Gilgamesh breaking her original set."A set of command spells condensed into a physical form." Gilgamesh explains just as the girl takes hold of the orb, which disappears in a flash of light the moment she grabs it. "There we go, now you're my Master, Ayaka." Gilgamesh has a smile on his face, he so easily just cheated the system by just... grabbing a set of Command Spells from the Gate of Babylon. What a damn cheater that he is, then again, considering that your capabilities with Truth are just as varied as Gilgamesh's with the Gate of Babylon, maybe you shouldn't judge.[Status Updated!]You look around to see Enkidu's progress, and are pretty amazed to see that already he had managed to create a perfect microcosm of the forest itself. The map is fairly large, and you watch as the finishing touches are done to the map, as the last of the clay figurines seems to form. You look at the map, soon finding the groups that are supposed to represent you and your allies, noticing the Mordred figurine. The detailing is just about enough to work out who she is, but that's mostly thanks to her armor being so distinct. You look at the unfamiliar group of clay figures on the map of the forest first, looking at the larger group of that seems to slowly be making its way towards the Einzbern Castle's ruins. It's larger than you had first thought, consisting of 11 people. A man wearing a suit, a hooded girl, a girl with hair bunched in drills, a smaller boy without many distinguishing features, a gruff looking man wearing sunglasses, another small girl and... God damn it. This is Waver's group! What the hell is he doing in the forest? You look at the Servants instead. Of those, you can see a man wearing a mask and a tattered cloak, a somewhat tall woman with a long blade, a man with oriental looking armor and a bow, another man with armor, though this one has a blade. Another man with a cloak and... no shirt. Six Masters and five Servants. Looks like Enkidu wasn't capable of seeing through Assassin's Presence Concealment from this far away.
Still, with the rough appearances of that faction in mind, you begin to look around the rest of the forest to find the other enemy Servants. Finding them isn't all that difficult, thanks to Enkidu pointing them out to you. First off he shows you two swordsmen, one of them is obviously Siegfried, as you had already guessed, while the other is wearing full armor, not much help. Next you are pointed to a somewhat short looking figurine, wearing what looks like a relatively modern looking military uniform. Then to the next clay figure, a tall woman with a spear and a dragons tail. You don't get much time to figure out who it might be before you're pointed to another figure wearing armor, but this one very much a woman, then one last set of a small girl with a staff and a girl following close to her."That's about all of them that I could find in the forest, I couldn't see into the temple though, or underneath the ruined castle, for that matter." Enkidu explains that even he has blind-spots. "And if they had any Assassin's I'd need to be close to detect them, or their presence concealment would need to be awfully low." "Thank you, Enkidu. I want to ask both you and Gilgamesh a question now." You really would appreciate being able to get these two on side for dealing with Orochi. Working together, there is very little that they couldn't do. Even slaying the greatest of all Divine Beasts was possible for the two of them as a team. "Can I count on your assistance in dealing with Yamata-no-Orochi?""Of course, Outsider. My Clairvoyance may have been sealed from me by the machinations of the girl with the backing of the grail, but it can still function in occasional flashes if the events occurring are great enough. Events such as the creation of a Beast... or at least the creation of one on the edge of becoming a true Beast" Gilgamesh crosses his arms. "I had originally planned to come to this forest to destroy the Beast, actually, but I was... distracted by Enkidu's presence." Understandable. "It would be a pleasure to assist you in the destruction of this Snake God." Gilgamesh frowns. Seems he understands the direness of the situation. He's only giving Sakura a wide birth, it looks like the idea that there is a human being with the capability to control the power of Tiamat has really managed to... unnerve him.>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?">"Actually, Enkidu can you give me some more information on one of the figures? You only did a quick glance at them for their appearances, right? Can you give me more information on... (Which figures?)>"Actually, I want to go after somebody else before going after Orochi." (Who?)>"Can I ask you two to delay the other Servants while I go and deal with Orochi?">Write-in...
>>4747573>>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?"Lets go fucking kill Orochi already
>>4747573>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?"Let's fucking kill Wormpa already, he has long since overstayed his welcome.
>>4747573>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?"
Surprised you guys aren't guessing the figures.
>>4747573>He's only giving Sakura a wide birthLmao
>>4747570>neither of you can spend the time it would need to figure out your apparently now romantic relationshipit took 10 years to be in a relationship with Sakura and it took Shirou less than a week to lose his v card and get engaged with Saber. He's simply on another level>After all, it's not just Sakura that your heart seems to yearn for anymoremanwhore Shinji
Before anything else I have to share the good news"That what until now we haven't yet awakened; the Great War Vessel —""Its name be as the Settsu-Shiki Oo-Gusoku Kumano.""A fragment of a vast vessel from a shore far distant what here drifted."Not even in Japan can you escape the Greek Mechachads
>>4747573>>>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?"I hope Ayaka has more time to shine, and Shiki too.
>>4747589Blame Kintoki and the Douman Singularity/Lostbelt
>>4747573>woman with a spear and a dragons tailLIZ?!also>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?"
>>4747573>a tall woman with a spear and a dragons tail.Looks like we are adding Vritra to our team.>Write-in...>>Contact Medea and ask her how things went with Chiyome and Ishtar>Inform Gilgamesh and Enkidu about it, they might be interested...
>>4747572>you can see a man wearing a mask and a tattered cloakITS FUCKING PERSEUS, or maybe not, considering the mask is supposed to hide him unless you see him directly>somewhat tall woman with a long bladeRaikou? >a man with oriental looking armor and a bowTawara?
>>4747591I have and will continue to hate Nasu's attempt to appeal to /m/
>You must go on to defeat the forces of Yamata-no-Orochi, as well as those who oppose him.We will fight them one way or the other.It is either give Orochi an opening to eat some more Servants but have Gil and Enkidu for a fight or have Gil and Enkidu delay other group so we have more intimate fight.You could argue for either idea. But having ability to chain Orochi for Shiki to do his job seems smarter.>>4747573>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?"
>>4747582>a man wearing a mask and a tattered cloakMost likely Phantom of the Opera>a somewhat tall woman with a long bladeThis can be... Anyone. Raikou? Okita Alter? Altera? Suzuka?>man with oriental looking armor and a bowTawara Touta?>short looking figurine, wearing what looks like a relatively modern looking military uniform. Then to the next clay figure, a tall woman with a spear and a dragons tail.Nobu and Liz>small girl with a staff and a girl following close to herCastoria and Gwyn? Medea Lily and Circe? Loli Vinci-chan and Mashu
>>4747602Gil's chains should absolutely hold Orochi, they aren't unbreakable but at the level of Godhood Orochi is at, they may as well be
>>4747573>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?"Alright. Map did its job and we didn't waste any time.>>4747582Patience. It was only ten minutes.
>a man wearing a mask and a tattered cloak>a somewhat tall woman with a long blade>a man with oriental looking armor and a bow>another man with armor, though this one has a blade>Another man with a cloak and... no shirt>Siegfried>the other is wearing full armor, not much help> a somewhat short looking figurine, wearing what looks like a relatively modern looking military uniform> tall woman with a spear and a dragons tail>another figure wearing armor, but this one very much a woman>one last set of a small girl with a staff and a girl following close to her.Time to get to work.
>>4747596Man with mask and cloak could be Assassin Kerry
>>4747609>Another man with a cloak and... no shirtLEONIDAS
>>4747606>>small girl with a staff and a girl following close to herIt's a fighting staff.This one is a very easy guess, considering you already know who it is.
>>4747618Very likely to be, yes.
>>4747618yeah its Wukong
>>4747619I forgot you made her a lolibased
>>4747598Just for you.
>>4747624AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.Hey how would you guys feel about Night of Wallachia just deciding to show up RIGHT NOW?
>a somewhat tall woman with a long bladeQM I would be ever thankful.
>>4747606>NOBUoh god YES please. Been wanting Nobu to show up. Hopefully we can get her to join our side. (Liz too if its actually her)
wait does anyone remember Waver's team and their rolls? I remember they only had 2 bad rolls and the rest were in the 90s, I think its safe to assume that they have at least 3 top tier servants so a Perseus and a Raikou makes sense, i think the hidden one we could discern might be Li Shuwen since us and Enkidu guessed Assassin as the missing servant and Li Shuwen has some absolute bullshit with his invisibility >>4747630don't do this to us man
>>4747623Wukong is a shapeshifter, her true form is a stone monkey, who hatched from a stone egg, that was laid by a stone womb, from a stone.
>>4747630 Hype. Let's recalibrate this phenomenon a bit. We need more allies
>>4747637You would seriously be so fucked if TATARI did show up in Fuyuki right now.
Analysis time: Enkidu really was summoned by Manaka, but it wasn't retaliation for us nabbing her toy. This is good because it means she can't or won't respond to this. This is bad because it means she can summon more help.We're having Chiyome train SHIKI at first opportunity, this was embarassing.>Waver's group>Of those, you can see a man wearing a mask and a tattered cloakHas to be Perseus>a somewhat tall woman with a long bladeMinamoto>a man with oriental looking armor and a bow, ?>another man with armor, though this one has a blade.?>Another man with a cloak and... no shirt.?Of note, none of the above should be a Saber, as Sasaki should be part of this group of 7. Unless they hacked the grail to allow overlapping classes, which is not that unlikely. I wonder where Merlin is.>Orochi's group>a somewhat short looking figurine, wearing what looks like a relatively modern looking military uniformNobunaga>Then to the next clay figure, a tall woman with a spear and a dragons tail.Vritra. The drawfag will be happy.>another figure wearing armor, but this one very much a woman?>a small girl with a staff and a girl following close to her.Goddamnit Sun, why are you dragging your Master to the middle of the battlefield?Also, I am a very happy Sakurafag today.
>>4747635You think its Redline Nobu?
>>4747643Dunno if it is but it’d be fucking cool if it was Redline Nobu
>>4747643>>4747648Nobu in Japan is fucking busted man we're in for a real fight
>>4747642>We're having Chiyome train SHIKI at first opportunity, this was embarassing.You really thought paranoid Gilgamesh of all people wouldn't notice he was being tailed?SHIKI may have confused "Not being noticed" with "Not being considered relevant enough to react to."
>>4747589Going by this, you aren't using Ibuki and Orochi from canon, right? Since Ibuki was fucking retardedly busted, even compared to this Orochi.
>>4747653i was surprised he didn't throw a sword at him for tailing him
>>4747653No, I certainly expected Gilgamesh to have noticed and not cared. It was still embarrassing.
>man wearing a mask and a tattered cloakPerseus>a somewhat tall woman with a long bladeRaikou>a man with oriental looking armor and a bowSomebody who hates someone from our group, probably friend of Raikou>another man with armor, though this one has a bladeGawain>Another man with a cloak and... no shirtLeonidas>the other is wearing full armor, not much helpVortigern>a somewhat short looking figurine, wearing what looks like a relatively modern looking military uniformNobu>tall woman with a spear and a dragons tailVritra>another figure wearing armor, but this one very much a womanNero>one last set of a small girl with a staff and a girl following close to her.WukongAnd hidden Assassin is Li Shuwen.
>>4747657You've not seen half of what Orochi can do yet, he's been toying with you.
>>4747658What's the point?Gilgamesh realized he was an immortal, so he'd just be wasting his time and the time of the person trailing him.
>>4747573>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?"It's likely Raikou, but I can dream dammit. Plus qm said he might add a gyaru.
Are you people seriously not going to check over how the operation with Chiyome went? Wasn't Alcides key to taking down Orochi?
>>4747661Cu seems like the odd man out if none of the servants here are his rival or enemy but everyone else got theres, I'm kinda expecting one of them to be Fergus, if not, we gotta summon Scathach with Flat's bullshit for that grudge match
>>4747666We'll get Vritra, don't worry.>>4747667They'll contact us when it's over. The last thing they need is for us to be distractring them in the middle of the operation.
>>4747573>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?">>4747635Guess I know who will be the next ruler of Japan.
>>4747662That actually makes a lot of sense. Ibuki is called a Great Keshou and a God on the level of Lostbelt Zeus. Great Keshou Tamamo BTFOs 100 Heroic Spirits and Lostbelt Zeus is self-explanatory. Regarding Ibuki's Kusanagi, it is said that a faint glimmer of its strength destroyed 8 Mountains and carved 8 Valleys and Rivers. Fucker mogged a Fantasy Tree casually. I expected some bullshit from Orochi so its not a surprise in that direction. Just have to get ready to bust some mountains and landscapes. Fucking RIP secrecy if we're doing mythology scale battles
>>4747667We're supposed to get an interlude plus we sent like 10 people to deal with it
It's not Raikou y'all. Raikou is 5'10, a head taller than Shinji himself, and one of the tallest women in the Nasuverse, and the description said that it's a *somewhat* tall woman. That woman is most likely Okita Alter, who's usually really short but gains 3 inches due to her weird platform boots.
>>4747642Do we see what kind of armor it is? European plate? Japanese?
>>4747675Why is everyone a manlet
>>4747675>5'10>one of the tallest women in the Nasuversejust kill me now
>>4747678Tall women intimidate the Japanese.
>>4747676I assume European, it'd have been specified if it Japanese. As it was for the others.>>4747678Japan
>>4747573>"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alitheia's back right?"If it is Okita Alter then that means Alaya is entering Counter Guardians now
>>4747679Well, there's always Kingprotea.
>>4747685She's the tallest servant AND the fastest servant.
>>4747662I hope it will be fun at least.>>4747667>Wasn't Alcides key to taking down Orochi?That was Shiki.Alcides was extra help to hold him down. Now we have Gil and Enkidu.>>4747675Okita Alter would be really nice gift from Alaya to us so I am not counting on it.>>4747670Aife is here too, remember?
>>4747685And Bunyan (though her actual height and size are inconsistent due to them always changing)
>>4747685Being a giant doesn't count, she's not tall proportionally.
>>4747688I completely forgot about her, mostly cause she showed up once and then left
>>4747688Speaking of gifts from Alaya. When this is over, we should convince her to give us EMIYA and TOHSAKA.
>Lancer Artoria towers over a lot of servants.>She's 1.70mJesus Christ I'm a short and I'm taller than her.How short are Shinji and Shirou?
>>4747692Well there's always Quetz, who is either 181cm tall or 188cm tall, depending on whether you're using the Game or the Materials Book.
>>4747703Shirou is 167cm and Shinji gained 2 cm here for some reason and is 169cm
Japanese man with bow is probably Touta. Japanese man with sword could be Yagyu Munenori?
>>4747703Shirou just hasn't finished growing. He'll be 187cm tall when he's done.
>>4747693It must suck to be Aife, she's only here so Alan can count as a Master.
>>4747709Yo wait, what if it's fucking male Musashi
>>4747685The battle of the OSF and Orochi's forces is between us and the castle, right? I'm thinking we should strafe them and have Obeith use her Noble Phantasm to turn the tide of battle.Also, guys, we didn't see Paracelsus anywhere. I BET Orochi has him helping with whatever it is he's doing. What would he need an Alchemist or the Philosopher's Stone for?>>4747707>for some reasonBetter nutrition and exercise
>>4747704We're using the Materials Book and summoning Quetz or so help me I will samefag spam into all the dead ends if we don't get a tall mommy servant gf.
Abby is taller than Nero
>>4747710Time to grind for that Self-Modification at very least.
Fuck now I want Male Musashi so Sasaki can get his rival and he can beat the shit out of everyone with a boat oar
>>4747713It's all the nutrition bars you keep eating off panel.
Oh shit, I just realised. Sun was with Orochi's group. Chiyome got her Master with the mind control poison.
>>4747715>if we don't get a tall mommy servant gf.Gorgon and Raikou exist
>>4747685she is adorable
>>4747713Philosopher's Stones are fucking versatile. Even disregarding the cosmic assloads of magic based on it, its basically magic soul quantum computronium
>>4747710isnt EMIYA 190cm or something? Shirou gets tall as fuck.>>4747722ah, we should her about it after she finishes.
Did the drawfag ever finish the fairy saber pic?
>>4747728I guess magecraft makes you keep growing, Kirei somehow got taller from FZ to FSN
>>4747723i just told you raikou is a 5'10 barely above average femoid and gorgon is an actual womanlet.
>>4747731Yeah, check the previous tread.
>>4747734And yet they're both taller than Shinji
>>4747737i blame 16th century jap manlet wormpa genes.
>>4747738isnt this just the rough draft?its fine if he just does this, it looks good.
Praying for Okitalter and her stupid shoes.I love them.
>>4747740Well if history is any indication Shinji is gonna keep growing and become slightly taller than EMIYA when he reaches his 30s
Also, should we just go kill orochi? I dont want to let him perform yet another magic bullshit to fuck us.And we have motivated gilgamesh with us.
At this point I just ignore canon sizes entirely because I cannot conceptualize a world where all the great conquerors of antiquity are shorter than me.
>>4747745Oh yeah thats a long ass sword. It's probably her.
>>4747748I say we strafe the battle real quick. A little bombing and Obeith's Noble Phantasm should turn it into a rout and it should be on our way.
>>4747748Yes, just fucking kill him, throw everything we can at him, he's most certainly gonna target Gil though so we should be careful
>>4747749Glorious nippon has short people, so for the japanese its hard to think someone that has 175cm as "normal" because of that they made everyone small because its the average for then.
>>4747745Love her shoes.>>4747748We need to hold him long enough for Shiki with shroud to slash his Death Points. Preferably killing Orochi`s soul.
>Buffed beyond all belief Enkidu>Motivated Gil who actually buffed himself for the fight>Fairy Queen of Dragons Artoria who can buff everyone>Tiamat-Sakura>Shiki and SHIKI>Alitheia>Chad Second Magician Kaleido Rinyeah no wormpa is as good as dead
I think the moment Alcides comes roaring back, we get him to spam Hydra tipped arrows at Orochi, he's completely fucked at that point regardless of it does damage or not, he won't be able to think things clearly anymore and complete whatever dumb shit ritual he's going for
>>4747748>And we have motivated gilgamesh with us.This vastly improves our odds. Especially with his boyfriend right next to him.I do hope Chiyome gets Ishtar quick, so her and Alcides can help us. They're perfect against orochi.
Som next interlude before the next update?
>>4747762I think we're still in the early stages of the Orochi fight, given how stupidly HUEG his powerlevels should be.
>>4747771if gilgamesh decides to ea gg he is quite fucked.we need to bind him to attack all of him.
>>4747779If he uses Ea on a high enough setting yea, otherwise I can see Orochi surviving or even blowing it away. It doesn't just have a "Ea does this much", otherwise every use would end the World basically.
>>4747779I'm sure it won't be nearly as easy. Remember, how many times we've already avoided something worse than a dead end with a write-in, and remember we're not even in the main battle yet. Overconfidence will get us worse than killed.
>Class: Archer>Master: Ayaka Sajyou>True Name: Gilgamesh>Height: 182cm>Weight: 68kg>Alignment: Chaotic GoodGil finally has his page. I guess he trusts us now?
>>4747783Also it's a bad idea to ask Gil to use Ea, he has a good opinion of us, let's not ruin that
>>4747784I am somewhat disappointed it's not an ascii of him dabbing on us.
>>4747787That too, yes. We should remember that he is the only one we cannot order around and expect it to go well.
>>4747787We should ask him to unveil his strongest Noble Phantasm. The one that is sure to win any battle in which it is used.
Gonna be extremely funny when Tamamo or Shuten call us husband in front of Sakura and she yells at them
>>4747787Just play chinese whispers and ask Enkidu to ask him to use Ea
>>4747783Also, yeah definitely don't get overconfident. Worst case scenario reading is that Orochi (specifically Ibuki who is basically Orochi, or at least has a Tamamo-Amaterasu like connection?) being Lostbelt Zeus level existence is that power levels somewhat parallel. Given that Zeus at 35% with most of his Anti-Concept, Anti-Spacetime, Anti-Planet shit sealed was equalling Killsat Artemis who is by herself Anti-Planet, even tho usually she just deleted islands. This is not that absurd for Orochi if we take the stated power of Kusanagi at face value, where a fraction (or glimmer) carves 8 mountains into valleys and rivers.Basically, if we expect the worst case scenario we are definitely going to be doing some hardcore landscaping, even if we stack Anti-Divine shit from Gil's vault and Enkidu+Alcides+Shiki 4This is the most pessimistic reading, but it should be kept in mind that if its easier than this, we should definitely give thanks. Based on canon, so unknown amount of changes are expected of course etc. Just here for a reminder.
>>4747787Not ask him, just him using it, remember that he came here to kill orochi.
>>4747795>"Gil, I need you to make Orochi a girl. I know you have NP for this. Trust me, it will work!"
>>4747798Yk, I forgot that Enkidu is Gil without the baggage and that he'd be more than willing to listen
>>4747803I mean, there's a way to do that.
>>4747662This activated my paranoia.
>>4747797One problem at a time. First we save the world from Orochi, then we save it from the Shinjibowl going nuclear.>>4747801I don't think Orochi will be THAT strong, but we should definitely be at the top of our game at all times or we'll get half our allies killed without dead-ending.
>>4747803>>4747809This could work. If we turn Orochi into a female then Wormpa wouldnt be able to stop himself from stuffing her cunt full of worms.
>>4747809Have Shuten vore her Saint Graph and assimilate it? They are like the same thing in different stages.
Fall of a GoddessInterlude Start"Jason! Complete your Noble Phantasm!" The girl calls out, and Chiyome braces herself for an attack... Only for nothing to happen. The Noble Phantasm does indeed activate, and the vessel fully turns into a whole new boat, however... No Servants are summoned, and Chiyome completes her descent, landing atop the tiny girl and placing her hand on her forehead without encountering any resistance from the two Servants. While the tattooed man looks very much aware of her attack, she doesn't have a weapon drawn, so could it be that he's realized she has no hostile intent towards the girl? She can feel the curse of the goddess upon the girl begin to break apart just from a single touch, but before she can properly exorcise the entire divine curse from the girl, she is thrown off with superhuman strength. "Guh... I don't know who the hell you think you are, Assassin, but if you think you can break my control over th-" The girl's face suddenly contorts in pain. "Avenger! Help her! Restrain me!" Red patterns of light erupt in a flash all over the girl's body twice in a row as the unwilling host of the goddess orders her Servant to assist her.The tattooed man needs no command spells to assist Chiyome, and rapidly moves towards the goddess, grabbing her firmy with his two arms and preventing her from moving a muscle. "-Nnnh! You dare defy me, you little worm?! I'll make the people you care about suffe-" Chiyome, having heard enough from the goddess, clasps her hand over her mouth, preventing her from sullying the tongue of her lord's friend any further, and at the same time, she draws forth the sealing bottle.The goddess inhabiting the girl begins to struggle madly to escape the grip of Alcides, trying her hardest to utter a command spell, but with Chiyome's hand preventing her from uttering a word, is quite unable to accomplish such a thing. The curse of the goddess is exceptionally strong, but merely the first touch shook her control of the girl enough that she was capable of taking back control of her body temporarilyWith her power over curses, finally fully breaking the curse the goddess has over the girl is somewhat simple when she maintains contact with her for ten seconds, but instead of forcing the curse to dissolve entirely, Chiyome draws the now mostly inert curse from the body of the girl, raising the bottle and allowing the sentient energy that made up the goddess to flow inside of it. The process is done in only 10 seconds, and the girl's head slumps to the side, the tattooed man immediately loosens his grip on the girl when the goddess is gone. The girl is asleep, it seems. The effort of having a goddess purged from her system was too much."Is she... going to be OK?" The tattooed man asks her, at this point he's definitely realized that they are allies.
>>4747812I mean...That is how strong Ibuki/Orochi was in canon, so that's what I'm going off of. Explicitly a Lostbelt (5th Apocryphal Belt) Zeus level existence, the Kusanagi is described but it cut a Fantasy Tree which pins a Texture, and she was called the greatest Dragon of Calamity. It could be weaker...I guess? for some reason.
"I cannot say, the curse was exceptionally powerful, after all. She wasn't lying when she said she was almost finished absorbing the girl. I did what I could to reverse the absorption process, but until the girl awakens, the long term effects of this possession on the girl's mind shall be unclear." She raises the bottle to look at it. She really hopes that her lord appreciates the gift, it was unrequested of her to do something like this, but somehow she feels like her lord will appreciate it. Especially seeing as even if the girl is missing some aspects of her personality, it should theoretically be possible to magically dissect this curse to retrieve them. "Now, we should return to his base of operations." She had originally had a signal she was supposed to give to the rest of her allies to begin the attack if she was to run into trouble, but it wasn't needed after all. She hoped that her lord would be proud of her.Interlude Out.
>>4747797 The Beauty of Trouble with Women
hm, should have voted for the castle
>>4747824Orochi has unknown Noble Phantasms, and if he wants, he can have every single one of his physical attacks made from each of his eight heads and eight tails be equal to A+++ Anti-Country AttacksThere may however be a reason that he hasn't just destroyed Asia yet.
>>4747826>She hoped that her lord would be proud of her.BEST NINJA
>>4747826We're putting Ishtar into a human puppet of Rin and removing any magic or divinity she has. Now BB has a clone friend.
>>4747826>She really hopes that her lord appreciates the giftThis is gonna be extremely fucking fun >She hoped that her lord would be proud of her.We should do something nice for her
>>4747835Human puppet of her original form, I'd say. After we dissect her for whatever she took from Illya. I hope her soul can feel pain.
>>4747835Nah I don't wanna put her into a Rin puppet body, gonna feel extremely bad having someone that looks like Rin get killed a few hundred times by Alcides, Gil and Enkidu
>>4747826>There were people that wanted to kill her when Tamamo restrained her.BEST NINJA
>>4747833 Counter Guardian's would get BTFO by him, so I guess he wants to do something like eat all the leylines in Asia or something.
>>4747842>>4747843Yikes you guys are really out to torture the useless goddess huh? I guess she kind of deserves it based on her Strage/Fake personality.
>>4747839>We should do something nice for herFrom previous Interlude.>Her lord had given her his orders, and she would see to their completion, no matter what. While she would've liked the opportunity to get to know the man who broke her curse a little better, she also understood the dire circumstances that her lord faced right now. To face the Gods with such confidence, he was truly a special person. Still, it was not the place of a ninja like her to wish for more of her lord's time than was necessary, she would assist him from the shadows, as all ninja should.
>>4747843Rinshtar is based. Sadly this one seems to be SF-ish Ishtar.
>>4747830The true final boss was the harem we made along the way.
would being put inside a reality marble cancel any bonus he gets from being in japan?
>>4747826Chiyome will definitely be quite high on the list in the next best girl poll.
>>4747832>GarethA reminder that in his retard rage UNRIVALLED punched her so hard it broke her skull and probably just straight up exploded her head.What an asshole.
>>4747846I don't really want to torture her. I think her serving Illya under some kind of obedience curse would be best. Both for Illya's satisfaction and Ishtar's suffering, as she has to serve the lowly mortal homunculus she sought to overtake instead. Tbh I don't hate her that much even so to torture her. My hate is weak.
>>4747846>>4747848Ishtarin is based, regular Ishtar deserves it. Don't know if we want to punish her and put her in a different puppet body or just leave her to be Illya's maid and put her in a Rin puppet body
>>4747848Rinshtar got more mellow from the Rin influence. Einzbern homunculus Ishtar seems to be her original turbocunt self.
>>4747860Eh, you’re probably right, we'll put her in a Rin puppet body and threaten to give her to Gil and Enkidu if she dares act out
Did she make you proud?Anyway, going to face Orochi won, right?
I thought about doing some omega brain scheme and trying to steal Ishtar's Authority of Venus and somehow using it and God's Blessing to try stealing power from the idea of Lucifer as Morning Star(Venus), but that may be too much ambition. It's better to scheme after the War
>>4747869Yes to both.
>>4747869Getting on the dragon won. I guess Alitheia is the go to Orochi directly route?
>>4747869>spoilerOh, yes.Flying off won, yes. I still say we strafe the battle real quick on the way.
>>4747869Yes. I think she in top 5 in terms of strength in our faction right now?
I think we should also give props to Jason, he did some big brain moves here and pushed Chiyome to victory. We should convince Medea to spare him
>>4747878Yeah, definitely. He's a slimy cockroach, but we owe him one.
>>4747877She's not really strong, she's mid tier at best, she's just absurdly great in this one avenue, that being curses
>>4747878I think Jason did good. I am also of the mind to sacrifice him for the greater good. As an offering for confessing to Sakura first and not Medea. RIP
>>4747881Also at being a Ninja, and we don't have anyone else that could possibly fill that role. She's not strong in direct combat, but she's strong in exactly what we were missing.
>>4747846Alcides is right. FUCK the gods.I've yet to see one who wasn't a complete dick.But fuck Ishtar in particular.
>>4747882She'll forgive us, we gutpunched her ex for badmouthing her. But she needs to be next or there will be blood.
>>4747885The order ideally should be Medea next, then Tamamo, then probably Satsuki? If we go by order of...safety. Ideally.
>>4747881Curses, poisons and everything anti-evilIf her Noble Phantasm is still bunrei she can match just about anyone by using it smart.
You think we can impose a concept on Jason's ship and make it so it brings in people that are simply related to the Argonauts too? Would love to see Chiron and Achilles>>4747885Satsuki crying in the corner
>>4747885It was actually a kidney punch, not a gut punch. Far more damaging and painful.
>>4747891I mean WE haven't personally seen any.Isn't she also taking someone else's body like Ishtarin tho?
We should tell everyone around us to watch out for surprise Li Shuwen just in case. Sphere Boundary is retarded.
>>4747887I think we can buy time with Satsuki she already thinks we're a couple
>>4747896She is manifesting in the body of someone who has in the past hosted her bacteria godbody. Technically its Ghost Liner like ether-body like a Servant as we see her.
Ishtar Rin! Ishtar Rin!Now to give it to Rin and have the kaladeosword buff her base form. I wonder how much she would love a goddess divine core.
>>4747887If Sakura and Medea start working together, they'll definitely be able to handle Tamamo. One is immune to magecraft, the other is a better mage than the fox.We just need to work things out with the two mothers of our daughter, and the Shinjibowl will pretty much resolve itself.>>4747889Satsuki route never, ever.
>>4747903Kinda don't wanna do that, it might effect her personality and those are some weird implications
We need to deal with the romance issue right after dealing with Orochi. We should have free time then.Can't delay it anymore. Sakura, Medea, Tamamo and Shuten have all kissed Shinji already. It'll go real bad if we do nothing.
>>4747894Won't make the same mistake again, boss.>>4747903Sorry man, Illya gets a new maid. Ideally in Ishtar's form, so we don't feel guilty for bullying her.
>>4747904I mean. I am kinda hoping for Tamamo, you see.
>>4747906It was said before that Rin wins hands down because she has the kaladeosword.
>>4747914I prefer to punish ishtar by putting her powerless inside some container so she can live like a normal human while we, gilgamesh and enkidu bully her for eternity.
>>4747911Including the fact that Shinji inner narration said he'd have kissed Tamamo on the mouth himself except it was basically suicide while being surrounded.
>>4747917yeah, the fox has to come too.We need to make our other wifes see the uses a fluffy tail has
>>4747907We can't, Manaka is still a problem and she’s likely gonna summon Beast of 666 after we curbstomped Enkidu and brought him over. It's not so bad, Rin and Medusa aren't gonna do anything cause it's Sakura and they want her happiness over their own and Shuten understands the pecking order
>>4747918I see you're interested in getting Sakura to want to unseal Self-Modification EX.
>>4747916Or you could put her in the kaladeosword to be trolled and it gives a power up to Rin for the Manaka fight.
>>4747920touch fluffy tail, it can calm everyone.>>4747923i prefer to make her a meido, but thats for later.
>>4747911Manwhore Shinji is about to get himself killed
Ya you guys really messed up by declaring love just because. Should have taken time to introducee them to eachother and get used to eachother before he told her that.We should introduce Ciel to SHIKI. Both went through the Roa problem so they can be eachother's emotional support.
>>4747920Sakura is perfect just the way she is.
>>4747928I have made my creed clear to the thread. Total Victory or Total Failure. Only accept 100% Obeitheion certified Hope for Harem Utopia.
>>4747930Sakura already thought we were already hers and she constantly seethed when she just thought we were with another woman, may as well go all in
>>4747925Rather use her for something useful instead of having that power waste just for another useless character. Illya isn't going to want a maid she's going to want murder.
>>4747930>We should introduce Ciel to SHIKII want Ciel too ya see
>>4747932You wouldn't even want her to test her self-modification with a bunch of fluffy tails?
>>4747938We'll just have Shishou set her up with respawning puppet bodies. Illya will enjoy tormenting her.>>4747940...maybe
>>4747940Fluffy tails and a Beastly crown of horns is based.
>>4747934No she didn't she was pulling a FSN. She silently rages while watching her love interest hook up with others. Now it's different she has confirmation Shinji is hers.>>4747939We don't have the time to prop her up. SHIKI has been through the same situation. They are good for eachother and requires minimal time from Shinji to help.We don't have time for 13 plus women better to ween off a few.
>>4747930Yes lets pawn off the girl who we told that we will fight the entire church in order for her to be free. I'm sure she will accept it easily and nothing bad will happen.
>>4747950Would you rather ignore her? Like I said 13 women require a lot of time Shinji doesn't have. Plus we said we'd fight the church for her not marry her. We can still protect her while SHIKI spends time with her. Those options aren't mutually exclusive.
>>4747940Experimenting is fun for sure
>>4747938illya would love a maid she can get little revenges everyday for eternity, imagine the things she can come with to make suffer, little by little.>>4747940it would be fine, i guess, but i prefer sakura with horns.
>>4747949It's absolutely different with us, she was able to let go of Shirou when he went with Saber or Rin, she straight up expected us to stay in Fuyuki with her and actually got angry and berated Sacchin when she said we were a couple >We don't have time for 13 plus women better to ween off a few.Coward talk
>>4747955we will have time for then, if solomon could maintain a lot more i fail to see why cant we.Of course, this after this current clusterfuck ends.
>>4747949>No she didn't she was pulling a FSNWe were in the middle of Heaven's Feel with her after being her anchor for 10 years and getting her out of the rapeworm basement. There was no way she would have been satisfied with silently raging.
>>4747962We're a lot like Merlin and Solomon when you think about it
>>4747964Thank God we arent as autistic as solomon was.
>>4747963She straight up flung BB
>>4747964Now we just need to be like Seimei and greentext at our enemies while their plans burn around them.
>>4747962If we look at the time skip options I don't think we have enough slots. Maybe we cut down on training and magecraft to keep up.
>>4747969We're still autistic
>700 wives of royal birth and 300 concubinesWhat the actual fuck, i didnt expect it to be a fucking harem with one thousand people.Dude really needed God's help.
>>4747973Yeah, exactly. Would have done even worse if we hadn't stepped in. She was going to a Dark place while we kept manwhoring.>>4747978I imagine some of the girls would rather drop out of the Shinjibowl than accept being #8 or #13 of a harem. It'll be fine.>>4747981We're the good kind of autistic though.
>>4747973She did that mostly because BB has her face and was being forward with Shinji. Both of those things probably flipped her switch.If that's Raikou in the forest we gotta give her up. Shuten gonna be pissed if we do somehow get her.
>>4747969>we aren’t autisticHahaha
>>4747978After the War we don't really have a timetable anymore. We can afford to spend years and not speedrunning power for a war. Ideally we'd become Immortal first and then we can just spend whatever time we want. Asclepius from Jason's boat can make an elixir, can't he?
>>4747958Imagine getting to polish and lacquer those horns everyday.
>>4747984Y'all really trying suicide by Sakura aren't you.
>>4747652Redman stomps Nobu he has no Mystery
>>4747992>the hornsGood taste anon
>>4747989Assclaps needs gorgons blood to make the elixir luckily we have it.
>>4747987We are not the same autism as solomon.
>>4747995>"hey archer, go stab the demon king a little, try to not get shoot."
>>4747994Alitheia made bigamy inevitable. And if you already have two wives, what's a few more? Sakura and Medea will always be the first two in our heart, but there's plenty of room in there.
>>4747997I wonder if one time we're going to blurt out our mind and call someone Assclaps or Redman or Raicow.
>>4748003This, but unironically.>>4748006We need to call Merlin futamancer when we berate him.
>>4748005>Sakura and Medea will always be the first two in our heartThat's a bad attitude to have. Ideal is equality in the inner hierarchy, even if the ideal is unrealistic and unachievable.
>>4748006Redman wouldnt be that bad, the rest would be hilarious.
>>4747974This wasn't just a joke by the way. Seimei in the Douman Singularity doesn't appear, but his speech appears as floating green text as he speaks to and taunts people.
>>4747869What a wonderful gift she proved to be. We should thank grandfather for her.Or maybe not, killing him as cleanly as possible takes priority over petty satisfaction.In any case, awesome job.
>>4748006>call someone Raicow
>>4748012As you said, true equality is unattainable. Shuten already accepts Medea's supremacy. The same for Medusa and Sakura. And the harem hasn't even began sorting itself out yet.
>>4748030Something something ideals are worth striving for with all your might something something Ever-Distant Harem Utopia.
>>4748027If Shiki kills Orochi, grandpa will be all but powerless. We'll have all the time in the world to gloat with a proper Shinji rant.>>4748034Live your dream or die trying anon. I'm cheering for you.
>>4748030We can at least try to love then all as equally as we can, it don't need to be us giving then the exact same time with us or something.The best scenario would be they liking each other too so we could do shit like dates with more than one at once.For a harem to work the girls have to like each other, even if only a little.
Has qm called already?
"Then shall we be off? You two don't mind riding on Alítheia's back right?" You ask the two heroes, who turn to look at the dragon. Enkidu has curiosity in his eyes as he walks up to Alítheia."I can arrange my own transport, Outsider, I understand that flight on the back of a Dragon is quite unpleasant for the untrained. I wouldn't want Ayaka to suffer from such things. I shall meet you there with Enkidu at my side." A portal opens up in front of Gilgamesh and he walks through it after grabbing Ayaka's hand and pulling her through.Enkidu has a perplexed expression as he looks at Ayaka disappear through the portal, before he takes one last look at Alítheia and disappears through it. Enkidu may actually have some competition for Gilgamesh's attention from now on, how very quaint."Well, that's about our sign to go ourselves. Gilgamesh won't take very long at all to reach the ruins if he's using the Gate of Babylon as a means of transportation." Really, Gate of Babylon is basically just a cheat Noble Phantasm, even if you disregard the almost unlimited amount of different powers it contains. If Gil felt like it, he could probably even use the portals to Gate of Babylon to steal the Noble Phantasms of his opponents if they are launched as projectiles. Then again, Gilgamesh stealing is pretty much unthinkable.Everyone clambers atop Alítheia once more. Obeithion keeps stealing glances at Rin as the magical girl takes to the air after you, before she begins to fly upwards herself. You've picked up SHIKI as an extra passenger now. You're about half of the way to the ruins of the Einzbern Castle, until you get the feeling that something is wrong. Every one of your allies still with you is perfectly fine, but... Something just feels off.As the ruins of the Einzbern Castle come into view, you can see that your allies have seemingly made it to the ruins, and from this distance, appear wary of Gilgamesh. Though nobody is fighting just yet. Gilgamesh probably could've just offered you to use the Gate of Babylon as a means of transportation but for some reason didn't. Maybe he just assumed that Alítheia was incapable of taking a form small enough to fit through a portal and didn't want to expend the magical energy to create a mansion sized opening?
>>4748045Oh, yes. Them not liking each other is definitely unworkable. We shouldn't add anyone in the harem that is not already accepted by everyone else. But a hierarchy is inevitable, and Sakura and Medea rising at the top of it is equally inevitable.
Just as you're about to command Alítheia to descend to meet up with the rest of your allies, laughter from behind you draws your attention. "So, you're the ones who Orochi wishes to see dead so badly, then?" You turn about to see a girl in a military uniform, with almost a hundred guns surrounding her all pointed at you. "I really must say that I was expecting more. After I leapt atop the back of your dragon, I was expecting to be faced with immediate opposition! Is this really the limit of your tactical ability?" Oda Nobunaga, the Demon King of the Sixth Heaven, has somehow managed to avoid detection from your allies and land on top of Alítheia herself. "Do you have any last words before I carry out your execution?" Nobunaga has a smirk on her face as she threatens you. For some reason you can't get a proper read on her abilities!>Make a Barrier of Truth, now!>Command Alítheia to dive using your mental link to her.>Nudge Sakura.>Attempt Diplomacy. (Say what?)>Write-in...
>>4748045Well considering that half of them are raging bisexuals I think that'll work out on its own. Fun fact, in a supposed Caster route, she would seduce Rider in order to trap her
>>4748051Oh yeah, Rin did kiss fairy saber.QM, i demand at least a little interlude of that part from rin's perspective.
>>4748055That sounds hilarious.
>>4748053Aren't you forgetting someone?
>>4748054great, more shit throw at us.why is nobu even following a god even.
What the fuck? Is this an illusion? How did Nobunaga do it?>>4748061I stand by my words.
>>4748061arc is old enough to not cause shit without reason.i hope.
>>4748063>why is nobu even following a god even.Why don't you ask if you want to know that badly?
>>4748061Absolutely based implications.
>>4748054>write inAsk her if she’s really going to take orders from a man who shoved worms inside of little girlsAlso ask if she’s bored. Of all things, nobu HATES boredom
>>4748051>Obeithion keeps stealing glances at Rin as the magical girl takes to the air after you.Well, I guess we don-t have to worry about Rin being in the harem anymore.Also, good for the anon that wanted Nobu. Here's your chance.
>>4748064I could tell you, but that would be spoiling it.So I'll just tell you that when summoned in their own country, those famous enough tend to get more abilities and Noble Phantasms. Some of which might represent things they did in life.
>>4748066My best guess is that she thinks Zouken is in control of Orochi, and that it's like Nobu herself using the legend of Mara/Demon King of the Sixth Heaven as a source of power merely. Meaning she may not realize the God is actually real and in control?Otherwise it could be not actually Nobu. An NP summoned by a Nobukatsu?
>>4748051>Obeithion keeps stealing glances at RinMedea and Rin are gonna fight over their new waifu>>4748069>>4748054But also ask why she's following a God
>>4748076Fucking hell, why do I keep forgetting about the fame bonus?
>>4748072That just means she can have a girlfriend while she's with us
>>4748080>Medea and Rin are gonna fight over their new waifuSisters can share.>>4748054>Ask why she's following Orochi the God. >Prepare for sudden combat though, just in case. Sakura should be the best against Nobu with her low personal Mystery, where Tiamat's power surpasses Nobu's too much for Tenka Fubu.>Prepare to dismount if Riding Alitheia counts as being cavalry against Nobu.
>>4748054>"why are you of all people, following a god like orochi?">"did you of all people fall that far, that you would follow a snake like him?"
>>4748086>>4748080I had a genius idea. Encourage Sakura to have her own harem as well as us. Subtly.
It transforms oneself into a true Demon King, "Demon King of a Billionfold Heavens", who deceives all gods and Buddhas. From Avenger Nobu's Papiyas Metamorphosis NP.It could be that this Nobu also has some sort of Mara based illusion bullshit that's fucking with us.
Calling in 50
You know, when Medea learns about 3D printers and Silicone molds, we might be in for some trouble.
>>4748054>Attempt Diplomacy>"You are slaving for some old worm dead dream, gluttony of oversized snake and vanity of so called "Demon God" Barbatos. Hardly fitting for a person who was called Demon King of the Sixth Heaven in life. In ten seconds, I can show you true meaning of pursuing brighter tomorrow, unchained by whims of long obsolete ghost of the age past."Just one up Nobu, guys.
I don't think its in Fate (?) but Nobunaga supposedly had:"One of the Five Swords under Heaven made by Hōki Yasutsuna, this was the legendary sword with which Minamoto no Yorimitsu killed the boy-faced oni Shuten-dōji living near Mount Oe."So don't send Shuten against her.
I wonder what Kairi is thinking about all this shit.
The NP is probably based on his feat of building a castle overnight I believe.I don't think Nobu is actually there or Dragon daughter or Sakura would notice. The reason why Sakura isn't effected is her magic nulification.Can we use truth on our eyes or as a lens to see through illusion?
>>4748107>I'm not getting paid enough for this job.
>>4748108The NP can also be based on the Battle of Okehazama."Nobunaga ordered his men to set up an array of flags and dummy troops made of straw and spare helmets around the Zensho-ji, giving the impression of a large host, while the real Oda army hurried round in a rapid march to get behind Yoshimoto's camp. "
>>4748107We can fix his curse cant we? we should.
>>4748054>>4748102This one sounds great +1also i was right, now the tall-ish swordswoman is DEFINITELY Okitalter
>>4748114It's probably this if its based on fame."With his victory in this battle, Oda Nobunaga gained greatly in prestige, and many samurai and warlords pledged fealty to him. "She's using an illusion to bait us and then will attack from another angle.
>>4748116Won't bring back his step-daughter though.
>>4748116Yeah we can, and yeah we should.Probably can't give him his daughter back though.
>>4748092Probably only gonna be Medusa then >>4748116Very easily
>>4748102I'll support this.>>4748104Anything with high Mystery is a bad match up against Nobu, so Shuten, Medea or Tamamo are right out.
>>4748054Changing>>4748087To>Ask why she's following Orochi the God. >Prepare for illusions and misdirection in addition to her muskets and Demon King based abilities. Both from deception based actions in life and identifying with the Demon Mara who deceives all things.>If someone reacts strangely or doesn't react to this Nobu, pay attention and react accordingly to that.
>>4748126She can give him a copy, not the original.
>>4748119>also i was right, now the tall-ish swordswoman is DEFINITELY OkitalterHow so? Don't get me wrong, I really want that to be the case, but how do you know?
I think the point of the illusion is to distract us while he does something. We should probably warn the crew. Especially those who may fall for it
>>4748054>>Attempt Diplomacy. (Say what?)Why would we feel the need to oppose someone who isn't even a 5* limited servant? Might as well just send Sumanai up here, you're in the same tier.
>>4748127All of them aren't with you right now anyway.
I am 99% sure its based on the Battle of Okehazama as I posted here >>4748114
>>4748136Yeah but now that Ishtar has been dealt with I expect Medea to teleport them back soon.
>>4748142You sent them away specifically because you're going up against the ultimate anti-divine opponent.
>>4748134I'd be careful with that option
>>4748139Pictured here; Perfect Harem End.
>>4748140Yeah, it makes sense. This Nobunaga is an illusion and the true attack will come from another direction. She should still be able to hear us for diplomacy to work though, right?>>4748142Hell no, we sent them away so Orochi wouldn't eat them.
>>4748153We should diplo but we also should be explicitly looking for deception and another surprise attack from under illusions.
Given that Okehazama was"The Battle of Okehazama is regarded as one of the most significant turning points in Japanese history. ... Oda Nobunaga gained greatly in prestige, ...Its probably her Fame Bonus if its where a lot of her Fame comes from.
>>4748054change>>4748090to >>4748102>>4748107We also need to make him and mordred meet, its funny how well they click with each other if this goes as in apocrypha
can we have >>4748129 with >>4748102 ?
Also, that "obsolete old ghost" part is weirding me the fuck out, given many of our allies and friends are literally ghosts of history or ancient fairies.
>>4748165Well, for one I don't want to namedrop Barbatos in case Goetia doesn't know we know he exists and wants to burn down the timeline if he feels threatened.I also don't like the "long obsolete ghost of the age past" when most of our friends and waifus could be described as such, not to mention Nobu herself. If you change the Ghost part itself I may be fine
>>4748165Yeah, I don't like that prompt all that much. Barbatos has no influence in there, and it's funny to talk about long obsolete ghosts of the past when we're literally riding a dragon and half our friends and waifus are ghosts of the past. Simple is best sometimes, asking why she's following a god should be enough without the rest.
>>4748166Sure would suck if your allies heard you say that, wouldn't it?
>>4748170we already namedropped barbatos when orochi was summoned in our face.>>4748172i guess, let me write something that includes both
I find it funny that situations like this feel more dangerous than All the World's Evil Enkidu because it's harder to read the room.We're mounted, surrounded by mystery. One false step we're fucked. Complete analysis paralysis gj WhatIs
>Ask why she's following Orochi the God. >Tell her that following Orochi will just lead to the ruin of her so loved country>tell her that you can give japan and the world a better future and that there is no need for then them fight>Prepare for illusions and misdirection in addition to her muskets and Demon King based abilities. Both from deception based actions in life and identifying with the Demon Mara who deceives all things.>If someone reacts strangely or doesn't react to this Nobu, pay attention and react accordingly to that.Is this better?
>>4748054Switching >>4748162 to support >>4748180Much better.
>>4748179Jesus Christ, that cat is enormous!
>>4748054>NOBUFUCK YEAAHHH. >>4748102Support. Also seriously hoping we get Nobu on our side as an ally.
>>4748180Fine with me.Changing from>>4748129 (You)to>>4748180A consolidated vote, everyone fine as is? But do keep in mind. When in Redline Nobu finds out that Japan became so "weak" she spazzes the fuck out and gets super mad. So "peace" may not be what she wishes to hear.
22 minutes left.
>>4748054also change my vote again for >>4748180 this
>>4748166I think it perfectly captures Nobu`s attention and plays on all of her character traits. Both historical and Nasuverse one. If we get a chance to Truth her it is huge win.Or Orochi was smart enough to prepare for second round and diplomacy was a mistake to begin with.>>4748172I am pretty sure Nobu hates them so I see no reason not to rub it in Nobu`s face.>>4748173I have some trust in our allies to read the room properly.
>>4748167Changing to this. >>4748180
>>4748190Prompt says better future, not peace. In fact, we can pretty much promise her war against the current world powers.
>>4748188I would advise voting for something else if you wish to have Nobu as an ally.
>>4748190Its less "peace" and more "orochi will rape the country very hard in the ass without lube and i have a better option"
>>4748054Changing from >>4748178 to >>4748180
>>4748197>I am pretty sure Nobu hates them so I see no reason not to rub it in Nobu`s face.She hates them, yes. Our faction is also full of them. Let's draw her attention to what separates us from the God, not in the ways we are similar to him.
>>4748201>>4748199Got it.>>4748197>read the roomIts not about reading the room, its their impression of us. Even if they knew its a lie, then we'd be someone who completely lies to someone's face for a seemingly momentary advantage without regard for our allies' potential feelings or heroic pasts.Also, its not a guarantee they'd know its a lie. or if it IS a lie, Nobu could see through it. And if its not its even worse.Please.
Sure would suck if this WASN'T an illusion, huh?
If this is Nobu we need a being with no Mystery.Shiki, pull your rapetrigger and kill the target
>>4748209We're mostly counting on diplomacy here. Doesn't make THAT much of a difference if it's an illusion or not.
>>4748209Already included in the plan. >in addition to her muskets and Demon King based abilities
>>4748209I doubt wormpa would be stupid enough to send his real servant alone against us considering we stole two of his already.
>>4748213Would hypnotizing Shiki to go apeshit be super effective? We DO know some mental shit.
>>4748054>>4748180+1Funny how I always wait for the autists to come up with the final write in to vote for.
>>4748220If it's an illusion he still kills it and we demand a proper audience?
>>4748214There's also the fact that Enkidu would have noticed her unless her fame boost gave her Presence Concealment A++ for some reason.
>>4748054>>4748180this>>4748209That's a lot of consecutive merlin images hmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>4748209we would choose diplomacy regardless.Nobu for all her insanity fucking loves japan, so we have a good bait.
>>4748054>>4748188Changing to >>4748180
>>4748222Makes sense, he can kill immaterial stuff. Ask Shiki to look at it with MeoDP
>>4748213Yeah, Shiki is the only one on the dragon who can deal with her. We're double fucked as the rider. Even Alitheia, a being of high mystery is fucked.>>4748222Unless she has real muskets surrounding us and killing the illusion triggers a volley.>>4748226And we were wondering who we'd live in charge of Japan in the future. Tamamo was a bad fit, and Nobunaga had been namedropped back then.
>>4748233Too sleep deprived to articulate how Shiki would go about doing something without fucking this up.Just wanted to throw the option out there as diplomacy is kind of a default option which I now just outright assume are all traps forever. WhatIs will probably start not doing that soon just the continue fucking with us though
>>4748233Nobu for Japanese conquest of Asia, Mordred for British conquest of Europe. I'm down for it.
>>4748217It's not inconceivable. I'm sure Orochi is busy doing his ritual with Paracelsus and can't micromanage his minions while they're stalling for time.
>>4748207Alright. But I hope it will have just enough over the top dialog to make her come to us into Truth range so wan fondle her.And not tirgger her desire to fight us to see who can make better future by doing warring states dialog.>>4748054Changing from >>4748102 to >>4748180
>>4748192I read a doujin about this.
>>4748236>>4748233The world is so fucked after this war.
We cant forget that iskandar is still inside rin, can't forget about him
>>4748234Diplomacy is a default option, but the way to do it was a write-in. And we're upping our guard against everything. It should work. Our ideal outcome here is recruiting her anyway, not having Shiki kill her.>>4748236Iskandar will conquer Asia from the west, Nobunaga from the east. They'll race to the middle. Karna will keep India neutral.
>>4748241It's gonna need some uhh...unconventional warlords due to all the gods and dragons and incarnated heroic spirits we're littering all over the world. It's gonna be great.
>>4748241still better than requiem
>>4748241>fuckedYou mean improved, right?>>4748242He'll be fine until we can talk to Waver about how best to purify him. Don't worry about him.
>>4748242He's in a pocket space that is just outside of the timeline.It's not like with Sakura.He's not actually inside of her.
>>4748243>Karna will keep India neutral.Ah yes, the curry must be protected at all costs.
>>4748242We'll drop him with Waver and ask him what concept he thinks is best.I trust him with this.
>>4748245Requiem is a goddamn hellhole. 30 Grails in leylines around the world leading to WW3 fought openly with Drone-Robot armies and with "innumerable" Holy Grails being created and used for war. I am 99% sure Requiem is a post Strange Fake world. Prelati talks about how "It's on my list, but it's just one stop on the way. I think we'll be able to reproduce it once the pioneers of the stars advance a few more levels. Same for the Holy Grail War itself. So, I'm going to be starting as many Grail Wars as I can. I'd like you guys to show some enthusiasm analyzing its pattern."
>>4748251The curry must flow.
Five minutes left.
>>4748248>He's in a pocket space that is just outside of the timeline.If we are being honest here. Just moving to a place outside of the timeline to train for a year or two to train and doing so with Alítheia would make a lot of difference.As long as time here would have stand still.
>>4748253The "It" being reproduced is the 3rd Magic. Touko is doing work it seems.
>>4748253>PrelatiYou guys were thinking of dealing with her at some point, weren't you?Any new ideas?
literally fucking HOW are we at 400 responses already
>>4748256I don't like this warning. Are we fucking up somewhere? Anything we missed?
>>4748256Being very specific with the time limit this time qm. Usually you only call like half an hour after the time you initially said.
>>4748248God I wish Rin could vore like her sister. >>4748054>>4748180Support.
>>4748262Feed her to Sakura.>>4748263Best Quest. Best QM. Autism.
>>4748262>PrelatiAnons insisted on Sakura Vore so that she constantly dies inside of her belly while Tiamat watches on amusement.
>>4748256Are we about to get Marble Phantasm'd by Nobu somehow...?
>>4748266>>4748264I just wanna get started writing.
>>4748256Wait. Could Orochi have made some kind of bunrei/avatar from Arc's power?
I can't bring myself to voot because this whole situation makes me too uncomfortable. I guess WhatIs did well this update.>>4748271We should ask Touko where/how Prelati respawns so we can ensure it works how we'd want it to
>>4748272Why would Nobu have Marble Phantasm?
>>4748278Marble Phantasm is nature interference by means of requesting allocated resources from the Planet by authorized parties.Faeries and elementals (and Youkai and Gods?) request shit and it happens. Does Nobu count as enough of Mara to utilize it...? Who is cosplaying Nobu right now?
>>4748273Not sure I believe you. You're hiding something, aren't you?>>4748277I legit can't think of anything better than what we're currently doing. Diplomacy using metaknowledge of her character + preparation using metaknowledge of her abilities.>>4748278I assume he meant Reality Marble.blessed image
>>4748274Oh, NOW you remember that Orochi has 25 percent of Arc's power.
>>4748273God, Sakura/Tiamat was the best mistake we could have asked for.
>>4748284So we should have Shiki rape is what you're saying?
>>4748284Orochi isn't here though.>>4748285But it wasn't a mistake. It was an accidental blessing.
>>4748286Genius plan.Everyone knows that everyone in an H-scene is brought down to the level of a baseline human!
>>4748288Shiki is a John Smith Pseudo?
>>4748289John Smith is a Shiki Pseudo.
>>4748288Do you want a servant to rip her masters dick off when they're fucking? It's necessary.
The best I got is that based on"The warlord was also keen on having people worship himself as a divinity and built a temple for that purpose."Orochi somehow fused Arc's power into Nobu and created some kind of hybrid empowered Spirit. Get ready for Great Keshou Nobunaga
>>4748290We've been sleeping on our greatest ally.Rape-sama I kneel
>>4748286Shinji feels something feels off and he has EotM. We can't get a reading on her. I think getting Shiki to attack the illusion is a bad idea when she apparently wants to talk. She could have opened up from stealth and we'd have been fucked already.
>>4748288Except for that one time Saber clamped down so hard that Shirou couldn't pull out for fear of cock mutilation.
>>4748294Why would Orochi give up his powerup?
>>4748294Why would Orochi grant authority to a rebellious Godkiller on home turf? Isn't that playing with fire
>>4748297Eh, like 95 percent of the time.
>>4748294Except I don't think we can do anything to Marble Phantasm Nobu? Unless its speedblitz+instakill, Arc for example can just vacuum cutter your molecules apart.
>>4748180This won right?
>>4748301>rebellious GodkillerMan, Nobunaga and Alcides will hit it right off.
>>4748301>>4748300It may have some kind of bad interaction with his own Authority or spiritual existence. Speculation all in all, not sure at all.
>>4748310It's what specifically gave him this whole powerup.I'm still seething a bit I woke up to late to get my writein counted of just having everyone teleported into the air at the time, and standing on a platform of truth.But I guess snekquest is it's own plotline that we would have missed, and no cute purification onahole
>>4748308Seems that way.>>4748310It's what got him from God to Beast Candidate. I doubt it.
>>4748304I'd just chalk it up to the same reason Servants are able to hold things without destroying them or move around without creating lethal blasts of compressed air
>>4748308no uhhh whatever plan that included predicting that nobu is orochi's avatar won instead :^)
>>4748317I guess it could be something like "Orochi has 8 Heads, this means he can have 8 Avatars who are him in totality" And Nobu is both Nobu and Orochi himself?
Now I wish we'd gotten an interlude next so we'd have more time to think about Nobunaga.
Could it be Li Shuwen waiting in ambush?
>>4748351No bunga these balls
>>4748351Chiyome interlude was endearing but the castle one would have probably helped a lot here
>>4748358Yeah, it definitely would have. Curse my wanting to go for something heartwarming instead of powergaming! One vote would have changed the outcome.
>>4748360...Do you really regret it?
>>4748363We're finding out next update if we really regret it, aren't we?
>>4748363Probably not. Best ninja. I'm just worried Nobunaga will open up from behind, and our sisterwife and daughter are both here to take the volley.
>>4748360now i feel bad because i dont think i voted.i was sleeping, i think
>>4748367There's no way we're getting omae wa'd, not by Nobu of all people. This is clearly Orochi fucking with us.
>>4748371I haven't seen her in any game, so I don't really know her personality all that well. But from what I've been reading, it would be very in character for her to attack the enemy commander like that.
Since I have nothing to do while waiting here is some foreshadowing about Greek Mechachads in Herc's CMats"Takeuchi: Even Nasu suggested making half of his body out of stone or metal because he's supposed to be a superhuman existence, ..."
>>4748374She's more of a screaming challenge to the sky kind of girl than an invisible assassin.
>>4748380Update delayed by 5 minutes, just because of this post.
>>4748380*shakes fist*>>4748382Well, she'll fit right in then. But decapitating the enemy leadership to win a battle is not really being an invisible assassin.
>>4748383Okay, okay. How about a more interesting bit? Original design of Godhand was even more OP and this version is nerfed."With Berserker's God Hand promising victory for 11 battles in old "Fate", and only six other Servants participating in the Holy Grail Wars, it seemed as if Berserker's Noble Phantasm all but guaranteed his victory. "
>>4748374No time like the presenthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSIba2LnBU
>>4748389It was like that in proto. >While it is unknown if he still retains it in Fate/Prototype, he had a Noble Phantasm in the planning stages of the original novel, old Fate, that imparted the ability "Absolutely Survive" (絶対に生き残る, Zettai ni Ikinokoru?), which as the name suggests guaranteed that Gilgamesh would survive any conflict. It would have clashed with Berserker's Noble Phantasm at the time, which was to "promise victory for eleven battles." The concepts of the two abilities clashed and the paradoxical situation had to be resolved. Berserker did not technically lose but he did lose his life.
>>4748383I hadn't heard anything about mechas in Fate before, and after these threads I think that's for the best.Don't know why something like this would ever need them.
>>4748389Yeah I knew that already.It's why he dominates APEX.He loses to Gil though.
"Last words? Well, I've got a question for you, actually." You look Nobunaga in the eyes confidently."A question? You're asking the person about to kill you a question?" Nobunaga raises an eyebrow at you. Clearly, she wasn't expecting that."That's right." You stand to face Nobunaga, Alítheia is thankfully large enough to allow you to do something like this. Honestly, at some point you might need to see if you can't get her to agree on having some sort of saddle for people to sit on. The ride quality isn't exactly great, after all. "What use would pleading for my life do here?""Well, I can't say that I don't admire your bravery, at least! Let's have it then!" The girl seems confident in her position in this battle, and you can't really say you blame her. Even with so many of your allies nearby, with an Anti-Mystery Servant like Nobunaga here, you have no idea just how much help they'll actually be! Still, you take a breath and begin to speak."What is a person like you doing serving a God like Orochi, Nobunaga?" The girl flinches backwards in surprise as you casually reveal her True Name. "I think we both know that following that snake can only lead to ruin, both for you and for Japan as a whole. Your beloved country will be reduced to rubble by the whim of a God. You can't honestly believe that this will end in any way other than him destroying Japan, Humanity, and perhaps the entire world."The girl freezes in her tracks, unsure how to respond after having her identity so easily discerned. She doesn't look like she's about to attack you though, so you take a step forwards towards the girl, walking past Sakura as you do. The girl is clearly worried about you, but there's no need for her to be scared."Is it a curse? Has Orochi cursed you into helping him? Perhaps it's the threat of command spells? Or were you planning on betraying him yourself? I can promise you that if you assist me instead of that decrepit relic of an era passed, the world and all of Japan will have a brighter future! There's no need for us to fight, Nobunaga." Still, despite your words, you're prepared for any attempt of illusion or misdirection Nobunaga might use. Japan is her home turf, after all, so you need to be prepared for absolutely anything. Seeing as how a sneak attack based upon deception is one of her greatest feats, and her link to the Demon King who deceives even Gods and Buddhas. The rest of your allies are paying attention to her presence though, so it's either an illusion that they are all capable of seeing, or she's physically here.
>>4748386I'm more talking about the fact that Enkidu is right here and didn't sense anything, and Nobu's appearing as an Archer so mega fameboost presence concealment is unlikely. She also taunted us about not noticing her, which makes me think she's just fucking with us.
"He... Has not cursed me into his service, I was wise enough to willingly agree to aid him... For the sake of my country." The girl frowns. "Tell me, tell me how you were planning on defeating Orochi, and then I'll decide whether or not it's worth me continuing to try to guide his wrath away from Japan, or whether killing him is truly a possibility." Nobunaga asks you a question, and it's one you don't know if you should answer.>"I'm planning on having him bound, and then using Shiki to strike his Death Point, ending his existence.">"I was actually just hoping that it all worked out and that I came out on top. That's how things normally go, at least.">"I'm not going to tell you my plan! You're still an enemy!">Make up another plan (What?)>Lie about your plan.>Write-in...
>>4748386Also, we can't sense her abilities, so that's another point for her not actually being here.
>>4748383Like I said. 5 minutes.
>>4748404was actually just hoping that it all worked out and that I came out on top. That's how things normally go, at least."
We should say something true but useless if Orochi is eavesdropping. Something like restraining him and striking him with an absolutely death dealing attack. Or just using one of our many other death dealing attacks. Erosion is still around, even if its less than ideal. Or stalling for Alcides. Or Rin could try chucking him out of the World.
>>4748404Yikes, either we lie about the method and she''ll might notice or we tell her the truth and risk it being known to Orochi if this is a scam
>>4748411Orochi is DEFINITEYL eavesdropping. We should not reveal the absolute truth, but not lie to her either. Time for another write-in, naturally.
Telling an enemy your plan is kind of retarded. Orochi is holding Japan hostage to keep nobu in line right now though.If we break Nobu's contract she still has Independent Action and Tenka Fubu just seems like a freebie from the world when it comes to scaling against gods. So she isn''t forced into our service.Technically we don't even have a single plan anymore, why not say the most innocuous one and mention there are several other contingencies?
>>4748404>write inWe won’t tell her our plans until she turns traitor
So what are the odds this is just some sort of ilusion of Orochi's, to let our guard down?
We could go for a gigabrain play and outright tell her we don't know if Orochi is listening, so she can stay on the dragon and shoot us in the back if shes not satisfied with our performance and tell Orochi she deceived us, but we do have a plan we would not reveal.
Probably don't reveal the Tartarus gaybaby jail one, or Rin's Second Magic.They're very good trumpcards.Gil and Enkidu are at Orochi's door, no? So that's already known. Maybe just mention those two?
>>4748423It's not even giving anything away at this point, and combine that with >>4748421
>>4748420Pretty high. She hasn't physically interacted with anything, and even had to tell us that she jumped here rather than demonstrating it. She also immediately asked us to start revealing details of our plan the moment she had an opportunity to.
Now, the real question is do you want me to call in 30 minutes and try to get one more update out tonight, or do you want more time to think about things?
>>4748404>Make up another plan>"I have in my entourage Gilgamesh himself, and he possesses a Noble Phantasm that can wipe out entire planets. All my party has to do is hold the crafty snake god in place."
>>4748434Call, we've had enough autism for a bit
>>4748421This could work
It could even be a body-puppet made by Marble Phantasm. If it can do stuff like recreate the Millenium Castle, it can create light and sound illusions imo.
>>4748434Call it. We're aware that this might be an illusion, but there's hardly anything anyone of us on Alitheia can do about it. If we let loose a fake plan to a simple projection? Then so be it, we have five ways of dealing with Orochi.
>>4748434one more please, this isn't something that needs us to go through a seven hour deliberation to arrive at a vital conclusion
>>4748434I think 30 min is enough, we just have to agree ona variation of "Be vague, but offer enough to convince her we can win"
>>4748404>You may have already noticed the two guests I bought along down below, two close friends very much skilled in destroying beasts of calamity.>That is all I can reveal for now, I have no idea of knowing if you aren't the earpiece for the God that is holding your country, and my place of birth hostage to keep you subservient. >If you would like you can stay on the dragon and shoot us in the back if you're unsatisfied with our performance and tell Orochi she deceived us.>>4748434gotta go fast
>>4748435Well, Anti-World and Anti-Planet are different things but close enough. Its for killing Textures, RM and shit.
Maybe say something like "well, look around you, we have quite the firepower, also, i will bring death for him one way or the other, for i am Truth."or not,maybe it has too much ego
>>4748447>>4748404+1Good enough I guess.
>>4748454The Chiyome flex is a good addition. The compliment handjob under the table may also help
>>4748454>I'm sure you understand I cannot reveal my full plan to you while you still serve the evil God.>But I can tell you this.>Many of my assembled allies based their entire legend on opposing and defeating gods.>Over there, for example, you can see Gilgamesh, the King of Heroes, along with his friend Enkidu. I am sure I do not need to tell you their accomplishments. They will help us in this fight. And they are far from the only ones opposing Orochi.>My own powers are not to underestimated either. I have already freed Mochizuki Chiyome from his control and purified her curse entirely. Orochi's power over her was nothing compared to mine.>With our plan, our power, and your tactical genius there can be no doubt for the outcome>We will triumph, save the world from Orochi and give our homeland the glorious future she deservesHow's this guys?Shit, typo
>>4748454I want to offer her the guarantee of staying near us ready to kill, to be sure.
>>4748454I would like to also headpat her, but maybe not a good idea now.
>>4748459I think it goes without saying>>4748463We should headpat Taiga when next we visit the Dojo.
>>4748404>>4748458+1this is fine
It's a slight shame bait-no-jutsu never panned out
>>4748458Also maybe add for you to keep a hard look at her eyes while saying this, so she can believe you.
>>4748465Ah, you wish to enter the Secret Zone?The Taiga Dojo Taiga Dojo?
>>4748465Uh, how does it go without saying if its not in the vote? Just outright say it to her I meant.
>>4748469It's also a slight shame we didn't get Achilles.
>>4748475You got this totally not treacherous fairy instead.
>>4748474It goes without saying that she'll kill us if she's not satisfied. That's the basis of our current negotiation. And are you sure we should outright tell her to deceive her Master when we're assuming he's listening in and not revealing our plan?
>>4748475Orochi would eat him.Where would he be useful actually? Other than speedmogging everything before they draw a weapon
>>4748434Get the update out. Thats my vote
>>4748477Would she have a reason to betray us though?
>>4748434Call in 30
>>4748483Maybe if you don't bully Merlin hard enough.
>>4748477Regrets were made
>>4748477That's why it's only a SLIGHT shameOur precious bodily fluids!>>4748480Speedmogging, duel an enemy servant maybe, be based, be nice to Atalante who'll be arriving shortly.Power-wise, Morgan beats him hands-down, yeah.
>>4748477It's funny how hard you're trying to convince us she's a traitor when we all know it's EMIYA
>>4748488Him and Cu would be a good fight
>>4748489It's probably sakura
>>4748488Duel Field is a huge dab to anyone juiced up by Divine Protections too. We should probably tell him to lose the scarf though
>>4748485We just need her there when we ask merlin why and what he is doing.
>>4748404Changing>>4748455To>>4748458Then. I'll accept it.
>>4748404Making >>4748458 official
I think he's already writing
>>4748404change >>4748447to>>4748458Send it WhatIs
I for one support headpatting Taiga
>>47485006 minutes till I start.
>>4748500I noticed dumping complex autistic writeins on him constantly was hurting his update speed.Probably had an idea of how the scenario was to play out, wrote one or two paragraphs and then checked the vote and had to start again from scratch.
>>4748504if we die, lets headpat both her ilya and faggot shinji
>>4748501I love that they took the effort of giving him a reflection in the glass
>>4748506Thanks for being a good qm
>>4748506hot incestuous witch
>>4748504Maybe we should vote for her to be the next interlude, if there's nothing more important at the time.I wanna know who's her servant.
>>4748507Shouldn't make it so we get curseaids without writeins then.
>>4748404>>4748458+1 since it's most bragging about things Orochi already knows about.
>>4748509I steal all this stuff from AronHeadbutt's twitter. He also makes Fate stuff on Youtube
>>4748507Yeah, but complex autistic writeins is how we've avoided disaster so far.
>>4748507We kinda need to do this.Too much paranoia at this point.
>>4748519>Too much paranoia at this point.You can never be too paranoid. Never. That's how Orochi gets your friends.
>>4748507It's only natural for the pace to become more methodical as the situation becomes harder to navigate.
>>4748519>>4748518He could offer a very valid but normal end style prompt at all times if he wanted to avoid 550 posts of plan synthesis while he's sleeping. Meaning we could keep in line with his general direction of ends more regularly and just add slight extras to polish it
>>4748523He could, but he doesn't. I assume he's enjoying the paranoid autistic write-ins.
>>4748524You assume correctly, your paranoia sustains me.
>>4748524this quest is more of a puzzle at this point.
>>4748526But I'm paranoid we're not being paranoid enough.
>>4748524It's like he has a whole quest of content reflected back on him I guess. Keeps the writefag motivated to continue anyway.On a side note, what were the 3 options presented again when Shinji wrote in the book?At this stage it's all but confirmed that one very important moment is when Shinji had his powerset aligned to literally rewriting characters if given a chance. >>4748526Merlin is your self insert, we get it. That's the only reason why he's making things difficult for us.
>>4748529>On a side note, what were the 3 options presented again when Shinji wrote in the book?Delete, rewrite, create iirc.
>>4748532Narratively we chose the best then. There are ways to delete problems with force, creation of OC defeats the purpose of happy end for existing characters
>>4748529One was turning back the pages in the book,
>>4748535I think that's pretty much our thought process back then too.
>>4748537i wonder what would have happened if we ate the book
>>4748540Punch out God, Eat the book, what stupidity could we have done to the three doors?
>>4748541knock on all the doors
>>4748542Mediate a triumvirate between Manaka, YHWH and Azathoth/Nyarly
>>4748541Which three doors?And how's this as a first draft of our future world map?
>>4748475I'm still hoping we can bullshit our way into getting him, his father was an Argonaut and don't we still have his catalyst?
>>4748544we were presented a fleshy blood leaking door, a hollow void? door and something else
>>4748543yeah, that would be funnymaybe a carnival moment.
>>4748544Mordred is gonna take over North America too?
>>4748544We had a choice in a dream to enter one of three door corresponding to the three greater scope factions.
>>4748544I hope Mordred comes to visit my colony and removes all the chinks.Will Karna finally make India a superpower?Will India finally use toilets?
>>4748544Where is the independant state of Babylonia.
>>4748544not bad, but why mordred would want america?
>>4748554Gil probably won't want to rule or rather, he feels like he owns the world already
>>4748545We do. I suppose we could get him if we start summoning more people at some point.>>4748549They are former British territories, still speaking the same language.>>4748546>>4748550I don't remember that at all. Last dream I remember was when Manaka was waving and we headed straight for Nyarly to get our evil witch back.>>4748554I can just color countries, can't do it for a single city.And I'm kinda hoping he'll want to chill with his clay and his girl.
>>4748560He even has a magic tablet that says he owns the world and all the gods.
>>4748544Aren't you going to give any land to the Queen of Dragons or the Fairy Queen?
>>4748567Yeah, in my pants
>>4748544Nobu has her work cut out for her trying to conquer China AND Korea >>4748564May as well go with South America too since most countries down south are or were US puppet states, may as well make it officially apart of the New British Empire
>>4748571Cucking Rin>>4748572South America is for Ort chan
>>4748572Argentina's gonna freak!
>>4748564It was before that.If I remember correctly we walked through a tentacle door and had a dream about Azatoth.
>>4748567our dragon loli will stay with us, headpats until she gets bigger.
>>4748567Queen of the Dragons gets the skies + whatever patches of land she wants. Our mansion will also be considered part of her sovereign territory.Queen of the Fairies gets the Reverse Side.
>>4748575>Cucking Rin>Getting cucked by Seibah>Getting cucked by imouto >Getting cucked by witchBeing Rin is suffering
>>4748581The Reverse Side is kind of boring if it's a New Age of Gods though.
>>4748584She'll cope with a parallel version of herself who was also cucked out of their romantic interests
>>4748575ORT is a neet that never leaves her cave.
>>4748585Ah, well. We'll figure something out. It's just the first draft.If anyone else wants to give it a try, here's what I used:https://mapchart.net/world.html
>>4748589She's just having a nap ok. Daybit will wake her up
>>4748585I don't know why people are still calling it the new age of gods when there are no gods involved in it and all the people that are involved are at most fairies or demigods.
>>4748572I, for one, welcome our new cute Mo-san overlord.
>Fairy Seibah actually likes Rin>People wanna cuck herLet her have this one thing. We've already taken her sister, and other Saber took her crush, what more do you want?!
>>4748587Who well end up being stolen from her somehow by Redman>>4748544The more I look at this map, the funnier it gets, Mordred somehow guns for North America but not the rest of Europe lmao
And any settlement in south america also risks someone getting hijacked by some residual god bacteria. Tezcatlipoca is a bit of a cunt
>>4748599her anal virginity
>>4748594If it's a new Age of Gods, the Gods still alive on the Reverse Side will slowly begin to migrate over to the Surface of the Planet, and new Gods will begin to come into existence too.
>>4748599I want her
>>4748599More Rin NTR material>>4748600She must prefer a goblin civilisation to a muslim one?
>>4748600Hey, my country has the longest alliance in the world with Britain, I expect her to honor it.
>>4748599I want Rin too, also Medea wants Seibah Fairy too, I don't want Seibah Fairy though as it seems extremely fucking weird to go out with your best friend's wife's clone while we're already nailing her daughterson. They can flip a coin to decide who gets her on the weekends
>>4748603Hmm. We'll need to figure out a way to stop this. Gods are cunts.
>>4748606Hello Portugal Friend.
>>4748606Portugal is based for a commie state
>>4748608Tartarus is always open for business!
>>4748610Wow. 1 minute. I'm impressed.Actually, scratch that. Let her conquer us. Can't be any worse than the state we're in now.
>>4748608maybe use wodime's plan of making humanity god-tier without causing the timeline to die.Someone would have to sacrifice themselves though.
>>4748612>Alcides gets to spend eternity hammering down any god that pops upBrilliant! He will be so happy!
>>4748608New Age of Man. Where man equals the magic of myth and legend, heightening himself further.
I don't even think Mordred is gonna actually rule, she’s gonna conquer half the world and we're gonna institute a constitutional monarch, basically whatever she wants will bypass parliament or whatever local governments in place but that's rarely if ever gonna happen since it's fucking Mordred and she’s just gonna listen to whatever we want to happen
>>4748610>>4748611I see, you're faster now.
>>4748617Maybe we could do an Age of Wonders, after the Age of Gods and the Age of Man?
>>4748611>>4748610Also, Is it so hard to ask that we get even ONE portuguese servant?! Just one!I'd take anyone at this point man. Viriato, Afonso Henriques, Nuno Alvares Pereira, Vasco da Gama... It's really annoying.
>>4748624Portugal is like the most modern Greece or Egypt. Once great, now a tourist destination for pasty britbongs and a based tax haven if your income is only from capital gains
>>4748624Ok say what you want about FGO, it's pretty good at avoiding nipwank, none of the Japanese servants are considered the best of the best and its good at giving different country's heroes a chance to shine
>>4748624Sorry, best I can do you is...Let's see...an El Cid with no art who gets killed by Zombie Hannibal.
>>4748630>Insert Musashi BTFOing Chaos here.
>>4748631Bull fucking shit, where?
>>4748624How about a fucking brazilian servant for once.fuckNasu is autistic, he seems to forget some countries.
>>4748630Touta is pathetic compared to his myth.Raicow is queen jobber.However..A GOD CUT, DEFEATED
>>4748633Sakurai jerking off the ever living shit out of their waifu is an outlier
>>4748630do you even musashi
>>4748634requiem. hannibal gets mogged by nzambi and made into a zombie slave
>>4748636Brazil, Mexico (quetz only barely counts), and a non-Arthurian-legend English servant. Holmes doesn’t cut it but at least we have bad grandpa
>>4748644I wish holmes was a actual detective, in fgo he is just "i know this because reasons" for everythingDude is very boring
>>4748633>>4748638bruh he's fast today. >>4748644Babbage, Jekyl, Frankenstein, Drake, Robin, Teach, Boudicca, Billy Shakes, Jack, Anne and Mary, Nightingale, Nursery Rhyme kinda, Moriarty, Sherlock
>>4748644>non-Arthurian-legend English servantRobin Hood would like a word.So would Astolfo
>>4748646You forgot Shakespeare. Cool guy.
>>4748646thats only for europe though
>>4748648look again.>>4748650they're all british, I forgot Astolfo who is also a british prince
>>4748647>So would AstolfoNot a fan?I like him. Even with all the memes, he's a stand up guy. Hope he shows up.
>>4748653Fuck me, I should go to bed.
>>4748653yeah, british.To be fair, as someone outside of europe almost all of western europe kinda blends into one thing.
>>4748658well Boudicca is pre-briton. Prince Nennius would be neat, he dabbed on Caesar. Shield that steals NPs when it blocks and access to Crocea Mors + strange celt runic skills
>>4748662If you want to be this accurate about Boudicca, then we should acknowledge that the post-Norman-conquest Britons are pretty much a different people as well.
>>4748662>BoudicaGod do I hate her design. Her entire design just looks like the sort of thing you'd see in a generic light novel.Why couldn't they at least try to go for the barbarian warrior woman look a little?
>>4748662>Nennius faced Caesar in single combat. Caesar struck Nennius a blow to the head, but his sword got stuck in Nennius's shield. After they separated in the melée, Nennius threw away his own sword and attacked the Romans with Caesar's sword, killing many, including the tribune Labienus. Fifteen days after the battle Nennius died of his head wound, and was buried at London, near the North Gate. Caesar's sword, named Crocea Mors ("Yellow Death"), is buried with him.High rank Battle Continuation and he even killed le benis :DDD
>>4748666Goblin onahole!NERO SAMA I KNEEL
>>4748666Coomerbait. Nips like her so I guess it was the right choice, plus they hint towards an Avenger version of her that would actually hate the Romans
so the next update is the last for today? i need to sleep
>>4748681He's ironing out the daily cliffhanger to ensure he has autism to browse when he returns
>>4748671The Japanese are basically the perfect consoomer, they like whatever they are given, and then will wageslave until they die.>>4748681Yeah it will be.
>>4748685ok, then i will be back later.
"I'm sure that you understand that I cannot in good faith reveal the full extent of my plans to you while you still act as Yamata-no-Orochi's Servant. You must understand that." Nobunaga simply looks at you and doesn't say a word, clearly she's not satisfied with this much. "But... I can tell you this..." You wave your arm in the direction of your gathered allies. "Many of my assembled allies have practically based their entire legends on opposing and defeating Gods. Down there is Gilgamesh, the King of Heroes, and his friend and equal, Enkidu. I imagine you are well aware of both their power and their accomplishments.""So, you are going to attempt to attain victory through overwhelming force? Is that it? I was hoping for something with a little more thought put into it than that. Especially considering just what sort of adversary that you're up against here." Nobunaga crosses her arms, apparently unimpressed by the power of your gathered allies. Of course, it's not about how much power you have, it's really about how you use that power."Oh please, don't think that my plans are so simple that I would be planning on using nothing but power to achieve my victory here. I already told you that I can't tell you the specifics, but you should've already been able to figure out at least that victory isn't impossible for a faction with as much power as mine. I merely pointed out Gilgamesh and Enkidu to you, and those two are far from the only two Servants with a great amount of power I have assisting me. Of course, I haven't even brought up my own abilities either.""Oh, you think that you're somebody capable of making a difference against a God like Yamata-no-Orochi? A living human magus, saying his power can make a difference against a Beast such as him? I'd laugh at your hubris, if the situation wasn't so dire."You actually laugh at Nobunaga's own threat to laugh at you. "Oh, that is funny. Nobunaga... You're familiar with what happened to Chiyome, I take it? The Assassin of your faction, the one who was sent to kill me." You draw Nobunaga's attention to Chiyome's failed assassination attempt, you want to gauge how much this enemy of yours knows."She failed to kill you, that much is obvious. I take it you disposed of her after her failure." Nobunaga still doesn't sound all that impressed, not seeing the relevance in Chiyome's failure. The fact that an assassination attempt failed isn't really that big a surprise to Nobunaga as somebody who used to rule a country.
"Well, it's true that she failed..." Of course, it was only a failure because you realized the potency of the poison she had struck you with, had you not, you may very have died. "...but I also recruited her to my side after using my own power to purify her curse and break her contract with Orochi. A curse that plagued her bloodline for years, purified in an effect that I believe reached even the Chiyome in the throne. When it comes to the machinations of Evil Gods such as Orochi, I am very much their anathema, the power I wield cannot be defied, even by the Gods." You start to get a little too into describing your own abilities, so you get back on track. "So, with my plan, with all our power and with your tactical genius, there will be no doubt for the outcome.""My tactical genius?" Nobunaga looks at you like you've lost your mind. "Do you really think that I'm going to aid you after that speech?" She's taunting you, but you know that she has at least been partially convinced by your words."Of course, together we shall triumph! Together we will save the entire planet from those who would see it brought to a complete barren ruin, and together... together we can give our homeland the glorious future that she deserves! So join me, Demon King of the Sixth Heaven! Aid me in my act of defiance to this so called God!" You roar at Nobunaga, your voice promising glory and success."Well... that was a better pitch than I was expecting, I'm going to be honest." Another voice, it's behind you again, and it's... also Nobunaga!? You stare at the image of the woman in front of you, which fades out and loses focus. "You've got some persuasive ability there, you know. If you were alive in my time, I definitely would've made you one of my generals, Makiri." The voice behind you continues talking as you turn to face her, and you see Nobunaga standing there, almost as if she just teleported directly behind you. "Oh, don't worry about how I got behind you, it was just an illusion, that's one of my Noble Phantasms, it allows me to deceive an opponent by creating an illusory image of myself, while also rendering myself invisible for as long as they are fooled." Nobunaga claps her hands together. "Now, you said you could break my contract, yes? I'd rather that you do so sooner rather than later, I don't know just how long I have until Orochi decides to check in on me, he's already suspicious of me."
"Ah right, well just give me a moment." You begin to walk towards Nobunaga, preparing yourself to use the magecraft unique to you once again. You're really thankful that the speed at which you regenerated magical energy was improved so much, otherwise you never would've been capable of these rapid successive uses of Truth.>Approach Nobunaga and use your power to only break her contract with Orochi.>Approach Nobunaga and use your power to apply a concept to her instead (What Concept?)>Have Sakura bind Nobunaga with ribbons before approaching her... just in case.>Remove her hat and headpat Nobunaga.>Write-in...
>>4748544You know, it's surprising that you didn't give give Illya Austria and Germany. Or Luvia Finland.
>>4748738>>Approach Nobunaga and use your power to apply a concept to her instead (What Concept?)>AvengerDemon King Nobunaga let's fucking go
It really was an illusion, but she had us fooled to the end. Nobunaga OP.>>4748744Fuck, I forgot. We'd even talked about this. The second draft will be ready by the time you wake up.
>Orochi right nowTHAT IS THE 3RD ONE WE'VE STOLEN FROM HIM
>>4748733Just noticed your id is Sherlock's martial art technique, weird.Nobu concept?How about Unification?Of her many selves, of her country. recreates her legend of Uniting Japan.We were giving her Japan anyway right?
>>4748756actually this works, her Avenger self is a aggregation of all her selves past present and future from all possibilities, she can have Japan yeah, not like we're gonna want a country
>>4748754Whoever would have guessed that the Japanese Servants don't want to serve Yamata-no-Orochi?
I'd suggest against headpat for this one. Nobu headpats you
>>4748763apparently Orochi has a bigger ego than Gil, you'd think after losing the 3rd servant that he'd maybe stop or at least force a command seal or two
>>4748738>>Approach Nobunaga and use your power to apply a concept to her instead>Unification
>>4748764Yeah... she'd probably kill us if we touched the hat.
>>4748751Not really, we brought up the possibility before the update that this was an illusion.
>>4748738>>Approach Nobunaga and use your power to only break her contract with Orochi.She asked us to break her contract, let's break her contract. She said she wasn't sure how long we had before Orochi checked in on her.
>>4748738>Approach Nobunaga and use your power to only break her contract with Orochi
>>4748766He's not micromanaging, and he doesn't really care about how you deal with the distractions.They don't matter in the end.
>>4748738>Approach Nobunaga and use your power to first break her contract with Orochi>If there is still time, once she has been freed from Orochi apply the concept of UnificationI don't even care if The Demon King is her own autonomous faction. She may very well be a walking Spirit Bomb of the Japanese and need no master, and act as the country itself fighting back against this threat.
>>4748770whenever we apply a concept it breaks the contract set in place
>>4748733>illusory image of myself, called it
>Approach Nobunaga and use your power to apply a concept to her instead>UnificationLet's fucking go
>>4748754Grandpa eternally butthurt.>>4748756Unification's decent, but I'm not sure we should mess with her yet, especially if Unification causes her to unite with all possible selves. Won't she see this as a violation.>>4748763I'm actually wondering why Siegfried hasn't defected yet.>>4748769We did, but Shinji couldn't see through the illusion even with the possibility in his mind.
>>4748738>Approach Nobunaga and use your power to apply a concept to her instead (What Concept?): progressIsn't the whole reason why she can fight gods because she is the personification of Japan's progress? So I'd lean into that instead of straight using Avenger. Especially when this is the concept of avenger and not the class. If it was that easy all we'd have to do with Saber Alt is put lancer on her.
>>4748775>They don't matter in the end.Someone I think that line of reasoning might bite him in the ass later on.
Also qm, can you say what the other choices would have done to Enkidu?I did tally all the votes like you asked.
>>4748775>be Orochi>lose all your servants>all your lost servants are converted to the enemy's side>I-I didn't even want any of them no wonder he's about to die
>>4748779>>4748776>>4748756>>4748749I just want to point out, Nobu's Avenger version literally causes her to fade from existence, because it's something that can't exist due to being every possible incarnation of Nobunaga to ever exist ever at the same time.
>>4748780Complimentary power up for giving us her ear. Maybe have Shinji ask if she would like a chance to overcome her class container limitations and tap into her true potential? We can't attack her, she's already weary of us. There is always the chance she gets CS'd but then >>4748775Everything is bait, kill the snake.
>>4748780>I'm actually wondering why Siegfried hasn't defected yet....sumenai.Also he's been given a handler to contain his autism.
>>4748791That's if she goes full auto. If she sacrifices herself for her country taking down snake I don't see that as a bad end for her. Nippon Banzai the land of the rising sun and suicide rates.
>>4748794Vortigern has him on a leash, poor guy.King of Dragons Charisma
>>4748793Break the contract immediately, ask if she wants a power up, apply power up? It'll up the time needed from 10 secs to maybe 30.>>4748791I'd rather not go for Unification then.
>>4748791if she does become an Avenger Nobu it wouldn't be a straight one to one of the Avenger Nobu we see in FGO, applying concepts to Servants seem to make them more "alive" if thats the right word for it
Who's going to have the most servant stolen from them by the end of day R!Manaka or Orochi?Current score R!Manaka:5 Orochi:3
>>4748790Yeah, kind of strange to summon all these Servants that you don't need when your enemy can steal them.Unless he's doing it exclusively to flex by kicking our ass anyways.
>>4748799i don't think we can just do that can we? We've never just applied a power up, we only ever did it when breaking some sort of contract
>>4748800I'd avoid anything that risks her becoming Demon King Nobunaga. If anything, the closest I'd do is THE ROCK AND ROLL.
>>4748803We're wasting time dealing with them. We'd be kicking his door down otherwise.>>4748804I think we can, it's just weird to do that with long-time allies.
>>4748799Doesn't work that way. We can only imprint concepts when altering unwanted contracts, as seen for the first time with Shuten and every time since.
>>4748789Sure, you already know what Humanity does to an extent.Freedom would give Enkidu the power to give Freedom to other people, allowing him to break contracts at a distance and also completely negate any binding abilities.Sovereignty would've made him truly supreme over his own body, basically granting him the ability to become completely immutable and thus invincible.Wisdom would've given him a natural talent to determine whether something would succeed or fail with almost complete accuracy. A skill that he could use in combat to practically plan out a fight perfectly before it starts.Friendship would've given him Proof of Friendship A++Also are you all ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN you want to turn Nobunaga into the True Demon King?You don't think that might backfire?I mean, even if it doesn't end up burning out her spiritual core, you really don't think it could backfire?
So this is the last update right?If so, I'll leave you guys to the autistic discussion over what to do with Nobu. Hope you already have the 5 paragraph vote ready by the time I wake up.
>>4748819Yes that was the last update.Good night thread!
>>4748818Freedom would have been the most powergaming option, but Liberation is best for clae. We did good.
speaking of dumbass gods, we actually lucked putting Purification on Chiyome, if not, it would've been extremely fucking hard to deal with Ishtar and she likely would've been a fourth faction to deal with >>4748818yeah i feel like we made the right choice with Enkidu>Also are you all ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN you want to turn Nobunaga into the True Demon King?Yeah
>>4748827Yeah, without Purification we would have needed to go there ourselves. It probably would have played out similarly, Jason tricking her, Illya giving power to Alcides to restrain her, us getting our 10 secs, but we wouldn't have been able to deal with Enkidu at the same time.I am absolutely certain I DO NOT WANT the True Demon King Nobunaga.
Let's give her progress or possibility.Based on her quote she gets that anti-divine goodness.The possibilities of mankind belong to men, the gods and Buddha should be respected and not relied upon; do you guys just plan to depend on the honorable Buddha for everything?
Oh, and before I leave.QM please. I'm begging you here.I'll even forget about Lancer Alter. She's the only one I ALMOST whaled for.Alright goodnight.
>>4748837You know, you could always ask Alaya for her the next time you speak with her.
>>4748833Actually, I'll back Progress or Possibility if you throw up a vote for it. That sounds like it'd fit her well enough.
>>4748799yep. thats why I specifically said break contract, then go for concept. I guess asking in-between steps is fine? But the arguments I'm seeing indicate there is a risk of missing out on the option if it's not instantaneously. If people don't want Nobu suicide bombing Orochi with her decaying Saint Graph then..>However, the body that houses the karma of fear and resentment of multitudes of people inside it, can not be contained within the Saint Graph of a Heroic Spirit whose "origin is just a human" and with each successive ascension, even more possible Nobunagas are edified. A multitude of possibilities sounds good on paper, but the end result that awaits is her meaning as a person vanishing due to diffusion. Nobunaga herself is aware of it, but doesn't talk about.>"Well, how do I say this, don't you agree that I'm the most adorably cute even compared to the other mes? Actually, isn't the largest me scary?"What about Persistence? Okita Alter also has it as a skill, it may help her exist despite an aggregate form. >However, fundamentally, her form is not one that denies the gods and Buddha, but demonstrates Nobunaga's belief that "The possibilities of mankind belong to men, the gods and Buddha should be respected and not relied upon; do you guys just plan to depend on the honorable Buddha for everything?". That is what's "Innocent Monster"-like about her, however, her existence as the Demon King Nobunaga that became the enemy of gods and Buddha and imposes a severe life on all living beings is akin to that of the Tenma, even if she could be called a supporter of Buddhist teachings.>"I am Demon King Nobunaga────The enemy of gods and Buddha and all living beings, reborn by surpassing the Heaven of Pleasure.">Surpassing the Demon King of Pleasure.Let's do her one better then. When Buddha ignored the thot under the Bohdi Tree he achieved Enlightenment, so why not impart this concept on Nobu to recreate that legend. Bodhisattva Nobu?>Still, a point to make note of is that it's not like this "Demon King Nobunaga" is the pinnacle of Nobunagas. While it may be true that she's one of the most powerful forms born from the story known as "Nobunaga", that doesn't make her the "pinnacle", but the embodiment of the one furthest from the "truth"────the human-shaped flame that burns brightly on the other side.However the thing that probably fits Nobu's ideals most, and would not really cause issues with her Demon King nature as it actually manifests the Truest form of her self would be the concept of..>Anthropocentrism - Human Supremacy. She was all about having men do things with their own hands and leaving God to his heavens.
>>4748841But if we do that, what about EMIYA, EMIYA and TOHSAKA?
>>4748843And then Alcides gets a wife too.
>>4748842Already have a vote up for progress.
>>4748844Just ask for them too.Maybe do some janny work for a while.
>>4748738Switching >>4748770to back >>4748781