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Welcome to Joffrey Baratheon Self Insert Quest, where you play as the cursed QM Elsweyr who has been punished for his questing sins by being cast into the body of the most unlikable Game of Thrones character destined for failure and death on the day of his 12th birthday right before the events of the A Song of Ice And Fire novels start to occur.

Last time, Joffrey Baratheon won a Valyrian steel knife from Littlefinger betting on a joust, decided to stay in King's Landing for the events leading up to Jon Arryn's death, convinced Gendry to come with him to the Red Keep and informed his mother Cersei Lannister that he not only knew he was the product of her incest with Jaime Lannister, but also revealed to her the members of the Small Council who suspected the truth.

It's been one hell of a birthday.

Now, Joffrey Baratheon seeks to speak with his maternal and paternal uncle - Tyrion Lannister, the Imp.
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After you've had your fill of the delicious dishes laid out before you, worthy in taste of the GRRM-esque food porn you are intimately familiar with reading about, and have gone through the necessary motions as a highborn crown prince must for a feast being held in honor of his birthday, you excuse yourself from your place of honor beside the king and travel not too far down the length of the trestle tables to where the Lannister dwarf is seated, eating and drinking copious amounts of wine.

The Imp has stubby legs, a jutting forehead, mismatched eyes of green and black and a mixture of pale blonde and black hair. He regards you with those hetero-chromatic eyes of his as you near his location purposefully, raising a flagon in greetings as he loudly addresses you. “Happy nameday, your Grace!”

His ensuing, unique stare is somewhat off-putting as the intelligent schemer attempts to discern the reason for your visit.

“Are you heading back to Casterly Rock with grandfather, uncle?” you inquire.

He nods in answer. “Yes, along with just about everyone else in our family save for you, dear nephew. I'd hazard to say you've developed an unwise habit of antagonizing your Lord Grandfather this nameday.”

>I suppose you would know not to cross Tywin, considering what horrors he inflicted upon your first wife
>I'm more concerned with antagonizing you. You seemed slighted by my bet against Ser Jaime in the joust. I wish to return the money and assure you I have great love and respect for both my nuncles.
>Stay here in the capital with me, uncle. There's a whorehouse I wish to take you to, but I'm far too sore from sparring with Loras to dip my wick tonight.
>Perhaps I'll make it up to my grandfather by releasing Jaime from his Kingsguard oath once I'm king so he can inherit Casterly Rock like Tywin wants. Of course, as the current heir, I'm sure that's not what you want, is it?
>Other (write-in)
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>>4749936
>>I'm more concerned with antagonizing you. You seemed slighted by my bet against Ser Jaime in the joust. I wish to return the money and assure you I have great love and respect for both my nuncles.
Build rapport.
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>>4749936
>>I'm more concerned with antagonizing you. You seemed slighted by my bet against Ser Jaime in the joust. I wish to return the money and assure you I have great love and respect for both my nuncles.
>>Stay here in the capital with me, uncle. There's a whorehouse I wish to take you to, but I'm far too sore from sparring with Loras to dip my wick tonight.
>>Perhaps I'll make it up to my grandfather by releasing Jaime from his Kingsguard oath once I'm king so he can inherit Casterly Rock like Tywin wants. Of course, as the current heir, I'm sure that's not what you want, is it?
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>>4749936
>I'm more concerned with antagonizing you. You seemed slighted by my bet against Ser Jaime in the joust. I wish to return the money and assure you I have great love and respect for both my nuncles.
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>>4749936
>>I'm more concerned with antagonizing you. You seemed slighted by my bet against Ser Jaime in the joust. I wish to return the money and assure you I have great love and respect for both my nuncles.
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>>4749947
+1

Don't forget to archive the previous thread!
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>>4749936
>I'm more concerned with antagonizing you. You seemed slighted by my bet against Ser Jaime in the joust. I wish to return the money and assure you I have great love and respect for both my nuncles.
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>>4749964
>>4749965
one of you is an impostor
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>>4749967
>just one
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>>4749969
sus
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>>4749967
You shouldn't have said anything
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>>4749936
>>I'm more concerned with antagonizing you. You seemed slighted by my bet against Ser Jaime in the joust. I wish to return the money and assure you I have great love and respect for both my nuncles.
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>>4749936
>>I'm more concerned with antagonizing you. You seemed slighted by my bet against Ser Jaime in the joust. I wish to return the money and assure you I have great love and respect for both my nuncles.
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Writing!
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>>4750003
Who the fuck are you?! What did you do with Trick?!
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>>4750015
>implying there ever was a Trick
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>>4750015
.
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>>4750021
>>4750022
My mind is having a sizuer
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>>4750028
And thus the autism continues!
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guys fuck off already
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>>4750057
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>>4750057
You don't have to defend me, anon. I think it's funny.
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>>4750057
If you want to blame somebody blame yourself imposter
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>>4750057
Lol retard look at your name
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>>4750057
Lol, what a noob!
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Not getting a trip may have backfired, I just didn't think it was going to be necessary. I think my namefagging days are over in this adventure, a good thing probably. If I have any thoughts about the quest, I'll relay them over chat, where I hope I can't be impersonated.
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>>4750115
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sggmx8vysoc
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>>4750115
>If I have any thoughts about the quest, I'll relay them over chat, where I hope I can't be impersonated

Have you considered that no one cares about the thoughts of namefags?
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“I'm more concerned with antagonizing you,” you opine honestly to the little man, who regards you with a perplexed expression as you do.

“Why, nephew?” he asks. “Afraid the Imp might gobble you up in your sleep? Has one of your nursemaids been telling tall tales of naughty children suffering ill fates on their namedays?”

You chuckle at his questions, pulling out a velvet sack of clinking gold coins. “No. I merely thought you seemed slighted by my bet against Ser Jaime in the joust. I wish to return the money and assure you I have great love and respect for both my nuncles.”

You hold out the coin purse for him to take, which he waves away. “Think nothing of it, nephew. A Lannister always pays his debts. I can't have people think I grovel and whine to have my money returned when I lose a wager. Keep it – you won it fair and square. It's a good lesson to learn that the man who bets blinded by love and sentiment is destined to lose, as I was for my brother Jaime. Of course,” he segues with a mischievous twinkle in his mismatched eyes, “I'm sure your decision on who to back in the lists had nothing to do with any cravings for the King's love and sentiment, right? Or else that lesson may just as easily turn itself on its head and prove a necessary one for you to learn, Your Grace.”

His intent is clear – back the King at your family's expense at your own peril.

>Bid Goodbye to Tyrion
>I love my Father and King very much, uncle.
>Mention a nearby whorehouse in King's Landing you think he'd enjoy himself tonight before he leaves for the morrow
>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
>Other (write-in)
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>>4750143
>>Mention a nearby whorehouse in King's Landing you think he'd enjoy himself tonight before he leaves for the morrow
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>>4750143
>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
doump eit
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>>4750143
>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
I don't think Tyrion has any important role to play in Casterly Rock right now, and his intellect can be of help here (and an in-character way for QM to tell us when we're being stupid)
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>>4750143
>>I love my Father and King very much, uncle.
Aren't we a sly little shit?
>>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
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>>4750143
>>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
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>>4750143
>>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
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>>4750143
>>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
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>>4750143
>>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
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>>4750143
>>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
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>>4750143
>Bid Goodbye to Tyrion
Will any house guards be staying with us? We should keep half a dozen men with us at least.
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>>4750143
>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
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>>4750178
n00b
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>>4750143
>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
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>>4750143
>I love my Father and King very much, uncle.

Awww, he feels the need to threaten us! It's a shame he thinks our bet was born of sentiment instead of realpolitik, but I suppose us being a little terrorizing shit before our nameday would convince him that we're not as smart or politically minded as we are now.
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>>4750200
>that we're not as smart or politically minded as we are now.
Are we though?
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>>4750200
Yeah now we're a genius.
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>>4750203
Of course! You seem to forget that I have a law degree.

>>4750204
We were always a genius, just look at the master plan for our SI Joffrey fanfic!
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>>4750147
>>4750151

Whorehouse

>>4750149
>>4750154
>>4750155
>>4750163
>>4750165
>>4750166
>>4750171
>>4750172
>>4750186
>>4750196

Tell Tyrion to stay

>>4750155
>>4750200

I love my father and King very much, uncle

>>4750178
Say goodbye
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>>4750187
Elsweyr's anus hair.
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>>4750143
>Tell Tyrion you're about to bet it all on your family and you could really use his assistance if he chose to stay in the capital
I think we should just tell him we are some seer or someshit
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>>4750335
>not committed to the master plan

FElsweyr
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>>4750335
That'll fall apart when shit starts to go sideways. Better to just seem really smart.

We aren't, of course. But we can look that way.
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Perhaps we can have tryion try and think up and implemwntsome things that can improve kings landing in general, or maybe forming up a spy ring?
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“Well, Tyrion,” you speak conspiratorially, lowering your voice to barely more than a whisper, “My wager on who would win the joust this day will be far from the last one I make in the near future regarding my family's triumph or defeat – though it shall certainly be the most inconsequential. And you should know – I'm planning to risk it all on our victory.”

The littlest lion of Lannister cocks an eyebrow, confused by your sudden doubling down of serious implications as well as your hinting at an upcoming life or death situation, especially considering his previous estimations of you as a dopey, sadistic child. “And which family would that be, nephew – stag or lion?”

“Lions, mostly,” you inform him truthfully. “But without a sizable population of stags to feed on, a pride of lions starves, no? They can't easily hunt eagles that fly through the air nor as carnivores subsist on roses.”

Tyrion smirks at your obvious symbolism. “I have to ask: is this gamble of yours borne of blind love and sentiment of which we just discussed is folly?”

You shake your head. “No – borne of necessity. The same necessity which leads me to plead for you to stay in the capital and assist me in the bet.”

The dwarf looks flabbergasted by your proposal. “You want me to stay here in this stinking cesspit of a city?”

You groan. “I was planning to speak with Grand Maester Pycelle soon about proper sanitation to maybe fix the smell.”

Tyrion shakes his head with a chuckle. “Don't bother with the old toad. You're looking at the man in charge of all the cisterns and drains in Casterly Rock, nephew. I'm responsible for ensuring all of my father's shit which isn't gold flows into the sea – and the castle has never smelt sweeter since my appointment. If you need advice on plumbing, look no further or higher.”

You grin at the clever man's brag. “So, mayhaps you'd be willing to stay and lend King's Landing your experienced services – well compensated, of course.”

Tyrion cackles at your suggestion. “Is this the gamble, nephew? Convince the King to accept another Lannister into his court – this time a dwarf in charge of sewage and night soil. Will this task ensure our family's ascendancy to the top of shit heap mountain?”

“No,” you reply to you nuncle's jest, “but it is a convenient reason for your presence and a great explanation for our working together. Think about it, uncle. Your mind is going to waste managing grandfather's latrines. Here, you can assist your siblings, nephews and niece in ruling the Seven Kingdoms . . . and help make the capital a less unbearable place for the small folk to live because let's be honest, this place smells like pig shit and it's about time we did what we could to alleviate that.”
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The stunted halfman shakes his head, somewhat taken aback by your earnest offer and his own surging ego at the prospect of having a real chance to make a difference in the world rather than live in the shadows of his prominent family's far greater accomplishments and notoriety.

“If King Robert agrees to granting me an official position managing King's Landing's waste, I will accept it, Your Grace.”

You smile and pat him on the back, rubbing his shoulders in genuine appreciation. “Thank you, nuncle.”

>Anything else you wish to say to him? (write-in)

>Go talk to Myrcella
>Go talk to Pycelle
>Go convince King Robert to make Tyrion the Master of Shit
>Go to bed, you're fucking tired
>Other (write-in)
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>>4750465
>nuncle
Our uncle is now a nun

>Go talk to Myrcella
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>>4750465
>>Go convince King Robert to make Tyrion the Master of Shit
Let the shit show start
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>>4750465
>Go talk to Myrcella
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>>4750465
>>Go talk to Pycelle
>>Go convince King Robert to make Tyrion the Master of Shit
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>>4750465
>Go talk to Myrcella
>Go convince King Robert to make Tyrion the Master of Shit
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>>4750465
>Go talk to Myrcella
>Go convince King Robert to make Tyrion the Master of Shit
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>>4750465
>>Go talk to Myrcella
>>Go convince King Robert to make Tyrion the Master of Shit
>>Would you like for Gendry to be *your* servant, Loras? *wiggle eyebrows*
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King Lard is going to ask us to go boar hunting with him and instead of getting gored by the thing he'll save us from getting got by the pig. Obviously he will be less drunk because he'll have been spending time telling Joff all about the best ways to stick a boar to kill it quick instead of only drinking.

The future is coming.
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>>4750465
>Go talk to Myrcella
>Go convince King Robert to make Tyrion the Master of Shit
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>>4750455
>>Go talk to Myrcella
>>Go convince King Robert to make Tyrion the Master of Shit
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>>4750502
Even if Bobby sits on the throne it'll work out for us if we butter him up, and we get Tywin or Tyrion to somehow conspire to get rid of Varys and Baelish from planting ideas into our enemies heads.
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>>4750465
>>Go convince King Robert to make Tyrion the Master of Shit

Best to do so while he's in his cups and in a good mood.
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>>4750468
>>4750470
>>4750487
>>4750497
>>4750501
>>4750509
>>4750513
>>4750521

Myrcella

>>4750469
>>4750482
>>4750487
>>4750497
>>4750501
>>4750509
>>4750513
>>4750521
>>4750534

Robert

>>4750482
Pycelle

Robert first! Writing!
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Perhaps we could establish a rat catchers guild or some such as well? It would help with sanitation and we could make them an auxiliary to the gold cloaks more or less under our personal control, seed it with cutthroats and rogues.
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>>4750582
I'd rather work with a little bird catcher guild, if you catch my drift... but being real, catching rats? sounds awful, because there are just too many rats...

I do think making a guild or something on the sidelines is a good idea, because our main goal is survival....
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>>4750582
I would normally say no, but I like the idea of a semi-informal security apparatus working under the wing of the sanitation department. The Master of Shit and his rat catchers would be a hilarious terror to institutionalize.
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>>4750603
Well, a rat catcher guild would be great for getting people into hard to get places, rats are everywhere after all.

>>4750608
Precisely.
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>>4750616
>>4750608
Ah... rat catching would be an excuse. I like it. We could focus in sanitizing highborn houses only. A specialized service y'know? We'd just have to be able to market it nicely. After that we would have a nice excuse right?
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>>4750603
Why next to public sanititation also some clean water. Some small aquaducts or at the very least some clean water sources where people aren't allowed to shit in.
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In light of the recent trolling with several anons impersonating my name, I have elected to take on a SECURE trip of my own. Sorry for all of the confusion.
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>>4750637
THE REAL Elsweyr would never need a trip imposter
I know this for I am Elsweyr
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>>4750637
Fake
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>>4750627
Well, theres no reason it should do both, but we could certainly have a dedicated "wetwork" team filled with thieves and murderers.
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>>4750636
For sure, all of this to boot would employ some of the poor getting them off the street as well.

We must make sure to take credit alongside our uncle though. I feel that Tywin will be most impressed, we can even say he inspired us. I would think that it would also improve his opinion of Tyrion if things go well.
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@TrickQM !Tx0QgjVrt.
Please tell these imposters to stop or I won't let you run this anymore
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>>4750668
*shouldn't
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>>4750675
I'm Elsweyr QM, I don't know who Trick is.
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>>4750675
UPDATES WILL CONTINUE TILL MORAL IMPROVES
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>>4750675
TrickQM Tell this imposter to stop impersonating me.
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>>4750668
So, the least trustworthy henchmen possible?

>>4750675
Cut it out. I already made my announcement.
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>>4750675
>>4750681
>>4750682
>>4750684
>>4750687
Fake
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>>4750687
>So, the least trustworthy henchmen possible?

Well we certainly won't have much use of men of upstanding moral character will we?
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Rolled 35 (1d100)

>>4750696
Whoever rolls the highest is the real Elsweyr
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>>4750696
REAL
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>>4750705
*dab*
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>>4750700
Yes? Someone can be moral and also loyal to a fault, willing to do immoral things in the service of a greater good.
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Rolled 36 (1d100)

>>4750709
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Rolled 74 (1d100)

>>4750705
*Sigh*

If it will get you to stop impersonating me. I will remind that all of this was my idea. I should be allowed to express myself.
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>>4750716
>>4750715
I guess it isn't me
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Wonder if Tywin is going to be incensed by his son getting the 'Cists and Lanterns' post in King's Landing. It is a not-so-subtle insult to appoint a Lannister to handle the shit, even if Tywin had done it himself. Maybe we could play into some of that with Robert, let him think we genuinely do want him to help clean up the city, while he gets a dig in at Tywin.
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>>4750711
Maybe we'll make Stannis head of the ratcatchers guild then.
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>>4750722
Cists and Lanterns is my Guns N Roses coverband name.
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>>4750722
Make Tyrion Commander of the Gold Cloaks, send Janos to his old job?
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>>4750741
I meant Latrines, sorry.
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>>4750739
The lord of dragonstone and master of ships?

>>4750743
Now this is a good idea. Hard for Littlefinger to try to bribe them when they are in Lannister pockets instead.
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>>4750743
Commander of the brown cloaks should do just fine for tyrion
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>>4750752
Does sarcasm not compute
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>>4750756
Ser Casm was sadly thrown from his horse a fortnight prior. The fall killed him. A stone lie upon where his head fell, you see.
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>>4750760
kek
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>>4750760
Can we get Ser Twenty down from the North, speaking of Stannis?
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>>4750778
Of house Goodman? Where is their seat?
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>>4750782
I was going to say somewhere in the Telltale games but I don't know what anything from either of those are called.
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>>4750582
this idea, I like. A group we have control over that has access to most of the city without looking out of place is valuable
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You smile and pat him on the back, rubbing his shoulders in genuine appreciation. “Thank you, nuncle.”

“I'll go see to that now,” you inform Tyrion as you take your leave, acutely aware of your extremely narrow window of opportunity between this evening's feast and the Lannisters departing for Casterly Rock on the morrow. He waves you off, eyes trailing your movements as he drinks deep from his goblet, watching you with what is very likely a healthy dose of suspicion – you are acting rather queer compared to the insane sociopath you probably were yesterday.

Arriving back at your seat beside the King, you wait for Robert to finish his conversation with your gregarious uncle Renly, the two black-haired brothers sharing a hearty laugh together as the younger one finishes telling the eldest some jape. As you and Renly make eye contact, he realizes you wish to speak with your father, giving you a wink of one laughing blue-green eyeball before returning to his seat beside the tourney champion Ser Loras.

Nearing your father, he turns to greet you, his ruddy cheeks bright red with a drunken flush, grinning from ear to ear. “Enjoying the feast, my boy?”

You nod as you scoot your chair next to his. “Yes, father. I just finished talking with my uncle, Tyrion.”

The Imp?” he specifies in his loud booming voice, Queen Cersei nearby easily overhearing her brother's insulting nickname and casting a worried, irritated glance in the direction of your conversation. “How is he?”

“Bored,” you quickly answer with a lie, piggybacking off the question to segue into your next bit. “He says he's fucked his way through every whore in Lannisport thrice over and wishes to avail himself of the wider and more diverse selection here in the capital that he has yet to see.”

King Robert roars with laughter. “A dwarf after my own heart. I'm sure I can recommend him a brothel or two to visit.”

You nod. “But he says he can't stand the terrible stench of King's Landing.”

The fat Baratheon recoils indignantly. “He dares to insult my city?!”

You hold up your hands to ease the king's ire. “It's true though, Father. You must have smelt it as we left the Red Keep and went out to the tourney field. Outside the Sept of Baelor and the castle, the capital smells rotten with garbage and night soil. The small folk live among their own filth. It's a problem.”

The drunken brute grumbles inarticulately under his breath, conceding the criticism as gracefully as he is able in his current state and position of authority.
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“When I admitted as such to my uncle and that I would like to see the issue resolved,” you continue weaving your tale to lure Bobby B into your plot, “he informed me that he is well acquainted with all manner of filth and grime beyond what's between a woman's legs; Tyrion Lannister is in charge of Casterly Rock's cisterns and drains. Father, I'm telling you, Casterly Rock's privies smell sweeter than the average street here in King's Landing and all of Flea Bottom. Tyrion offered to help manage our sewage and drainage with his own deft touch – as long as you appointed him to the Small Council as Master of Shit.”

Robert chortles once more as you finish your request with a joke. “No, no son – Master of Filth. It has to sound majestic and dignified. Master of Night Soil,” he brainstorms a third possible title for Tyrion's new job.

You laugh along with your legal father. “But it's a good idea, right? He's leaving tomorrow with Lord Tywin if we don't offer him a position."

The drunken man groans. “Ughhhh, last thing I need is another blonde shit lurking about the keep underfoot.”

“Well he's a small and stunted blonde shit,” you point out. “You'll miss him completely if you don't look down.”

The two of you laugh again at your dwarf joke made at Tyrion's expense.

“I truly believe the two of you will get along quite well, Father,” you assure the Protector of the Realm. “For his size, The Imp can really hold his drink and he has . . . an appetite for women you may appreciate.”

Fine,” Robert relents. “But I better smell results, so unless Lannister farts smell like gold too, he'll have to do more than drink and whore while he fills his pockets with more coin he doesn't need from my kingdom.”

You bow to the King. “Thank you, father.”

>Go headpat Myrcella
>Go assure Cersei that Tyrion is actually a really cool guy. Eh fucks whores and doesn't afraid of anything.
>Go to bed, you're fucking tired
>Other (write-in)
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>>4750829
>Go headpat Myrcella
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>>4750829
>Go headpat Myrcella
>Take her aside to play Maester at some point, ply her with some wine.
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>>4750829
>>Go to bed, you're fucking tired
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>>4750829
>Go headpat Myrcella
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>>4750829
>>Go headpat Myrcella
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>>4750829
>Go headpat Myrcella
Since she has not given us a nameday gift, ask for a hug.
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>>4750829
>HEADPAT
then
>bed
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>>4750853
>ask for a hug
just a hug?
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>>4750829
>>Go headpat Myrcella
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>>4750829
>>Go headpat Myrcella
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>>4750829
>>>Go headpat Myrcella
Yeah, the tide of things feels like this is best.
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If there are no more updates tonight good night Trick, don't let that bad Weiss and Benioff Grift pussy bite. Also I firmly believe that Trick is using Elsweyr QM as a sock puppet account, but that's just me.
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>>4750829
>Go headpat Myrcella

>>4750942
Your assuming that Trick isn't my sock puppet anon.
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>>4750942
Who's Trick?

I'm Elsweyr.

And, yeah, Myrcella headpatting wins the vote but I've got shit to do so next update will take a while.
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>>4750970
Who's Trelscwek?
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What other reforms are realistic in a short period of time for good returns in clout and the appearance of capability? Thinking in terms of months.
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>>4751025
Forming a stronger guild system wherein the crown takes on expanses to train skilled works then after training they agree to work for lords who pay us back a cut.
A development of a department of interior development who is responsible for providing loans to lords to create profitable enterprises to boost crown revenue.

Establishment of a system of optical telegram towers for fast and more capable information transit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_telegraph

Purging balishe's pawns and taking everything he owns on grounds of embezzlement and corruption

Honestly few things can really be done over a handful of months
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>>4751025
Are we limiting ourselves to Kings Landing or the Crownlands in general?
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>>4750859
look naga im all for getting Elsweyr fucked by big black men, but that's a little girl /with the mind of a little girl/
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>>4751025
Also given how little (10-25%) of taxes reach a central monarch we could have local tax collectors sends telegram reports of how much they collect and a second written report.
The release this information every year to allow the citizens to double check the map of local collectors and deter corruption.
Also public baths and toilets so people stop dumping shit in the streets and a civil fine to be out into place to stop this
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>>4751046
Guilds could also be included in emergency militia drafts, butchers guilds, bakers guilds, so on and so forth. Not the whole guild taking to the battlefield of course, but say a portion of their apprentices being mustered would add up nicely.

A system of of administration for sellswords wouldn't be a bad idea either, registers, standardized contracts and all that.
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What about food production or storage? Is there anything we could do to help alleviate the coming food shortages?
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>>4750829
>>Go headpat Myrcella
Anyone not voting for this will be conscripted to help Tyrion with his plumbing.
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>>4751057
Imp rather than risking skilled works a tax placed upon guilds to fund a larger and better trained local milita/royal army would be better.

A system for sells words could on a larger scale requiring all company's to get approval from the crown or local lord paramount to sell their services but trying to track individuals would be next to impossible.

>>4751067
Optical telegrams could allow for a basic stock market emergence allowing goods in a surplus to be more really directed to areas in a shortage.
also encouragement for either canals or real roads would be useful for the transit of goods.

While more advanced tech exists I am doubtful the autist we are would know about it
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>>4751067
You mean other than tell the lords to stop being fucking retarded and stock their granaries properly?

I guess you could institute a mass-hunt and buy all of the game to smoke/salt/whatever that third preservation method that I can never remember is it for the coming shittery.

Of course only in some places, otherwise literally everywhere will be depleted rather quickly.
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>>4751101
In their defence the long night might not be that long
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>>4751084
>Imp rather than risking skilled works a tax placed upon guilds to fund a larger and better trained local milita/royal army would be better.
>A system for sells words could on a larger scale requiring all company's to get approval from the crown or local lord paramount to sell their services but trying to track individuals would be next to impossible.

Well, urban militias are kind of what I'm thinking about here, though I don't know how we'd really go about implementing it. Guilds and the merchant class are just about the only people we can reasonably expect to be able to arm themselves decently. Not for front line troops of course, but as a reserve or manning fortifications freeing up actual professional soldiers.

Perhaps as far as sellswords go, maybe we could look for a way to establish recruiters in the free cities? Not for whole companies, but a steady trickle of individuals and small bands. Could build a decent force of professionals up in Kings Landing over time.

>>4751101

Perhaps expanding or improving the fisheries in operation around the Crownlands?
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>>4751122
While pretty much only guilds could produce the arms and armor need for militas but it might be more practical to have a unified common troop body made from farmers who serve 15-20 years at a time.
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>>4751110
That's like buying a rifle in case of bear attacks but only buying one bullet because there aren't THAT many bears around.

>>4751122
>Perhaps expanding or improving the fisheries in operation around the Crownlands?
But fish are gross. I suppose it can't be helped. Open the royal wharf!
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>mfw I want true roads but then google what they'd cost for a typical pre-renassaince medieval kingdom.

>>4751084
On a general timescale we'd need a wholly different form of economy for a stock market to emerge. Supply brokers (or Jobbers) can't exist alongside our current version of a system of high lords, and our lords won't have power if bank merchantry and jobbers become land owners or attempt to be primary supply distributors. We're, uh, a revolution in the peasant/serf labor dynamic away from those fiduciary developments.

For the comms I feel like most Lords are too paranoid to use them over ravens, so they'd be for simpler matters. Meaning it's difficult to get renown for a semaphore system unless it literally wins us a battle or exists between most major cities. Paying to create a useful number of them (city to city, south to north) is the only real barrier though, so it is possible.

>>4751101
We should tell them that. And if we want to do that, the first thing we'll do is we won't tell them that. We'll send inspectors to detail the buildings and their holdings. Instead of just getting their supply, which is what gets sent to Tywin on paper, we can say that the inspections we ordered showed that the granaries are inferior to current standards and prone to failure (both true and verifiable). Then instituting new granary standards or upgrades as needed as a policy for the safety of the kingdom will give us more recognition. Fines for any lord refusing to adhere to proper standards, as their job is to reliably keep their lands fed. Not only do troublesome lords get fined, their people also starve and they'll have to firesale the fuck out of their holdings (and any corruptly gained coin) if they want to survive as nobility or prevent mass starvation of the people directly around them. It's great!

>>4751122
Urban militias of people who are poor, couldn't previously feed themselves, and are on-contract to become front line soldiers would produce quick results in cleaning the streets. Worked for the U.S. and for Great Britain. Reduced crime way more than watchmen and allowed people that were poor but able to work an opportunity that wouldn't otherwise exist. Once again, it's just the cost we have to find ways to justify. We surely can think of something.

Though the idea that maniac Joffrey is now currently building an army of poor people might set off some alarms for certain individuals. On the other hand, if we do something extensive like beginning a true militia then we need to take credit for it, and control of it, so that our gain isn't tarnished by someone else getting them to do something irredeemably stupid, or worse; something good.
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>>4751140
This anon has activated his brain pieces.

>Once again, it's just the cost we have to find ways to justify. We surely can think of something.
Just like any other business, start small. Do that in some of the shittier places to prove it works. Then everyone will go for it on their own. Who doesn't want less crime and better security in their lands after all?
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>>4751140
Stock market could 100% exist alongside lords. Early history shows shares in companys dreading as far back as the classical romans however it did lack the larger persistent market to be considered as such.
And shares in future land produce in the form of a commodity market or allowing privet merchants and brokers to fund the creation of new enterprises like mines.
Also we do need to greater centralize power so moving it out of the hands of the lords and into the hands of a hopefully emerging bureaucracy to eliminate the risk of civil war.

Also even if we don't spread it to every township spreading to major cities and key forts would be enough.

Spreading it to market towns would enable less guessing in goods shipments and a greater sense of goods security.
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>>4751140
>>4751179
Also westeros has like 8 cities across 8 kingdoms.
Really a basic level of civ development could just result in a stronger noble class if they get along with the times.
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>>4751126
Well farmers need to be in the fields desu, forming a large standing army might not really be possible currently for that matter.

>>4751140

Well that's not really what an urban militia was, the idea being that freemen/non nobles of means were expected to maintain arms if they needed to be called up was more how it worked. Still, putting the poor and beggars into military forces still isn't a bad idea, but we might be better served using them in work projects. After all, we would have to feed, arm, clothe, quarter, and train them, at that point it wouldn't be a militia really. Not really a worthwhile expense while the crown is already so deeply in debt if you ask me.
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>>4751179
>>4751192
Well then our challenge will be to get them to go along with it and payment. The Joffcom system rises!
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>Optical telegraph
Seems expensive, and requires a lot of people to maintain, a simpler messenger system or just using flashing lights works probably better at a much lower cost.

>Forcing people to build better granaries and fining the nobles.
As if people don't hate us enough, this might send a few assassins' or saboteurs our way. Probably better to care for our own people and leave the rest to starve.

>Militia
This is just asking for armed uprisings and rebellions. If not against us than against local lords and rulers.
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>>4750970
Trick its been 3 hours. Have you had to shit that bad?
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>>4751244
We need more sauciness to get Trick to update at near 2AM.
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>>4751194
>Still, putting the poor and beggars into military forces still isn't a bad idea, but we might be better served using them in work projects.
Work projects is probably the way to go imo. Improve a couple of highways, build some aquaducts for KL, bridge any rivers we can.
We'd need architects and mason for the skilled work but the poor could definitely contribute.
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Do remember that the crown is 6 million dragons in debt.
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>>4751291
Eh. Debt's a funny thing. A government runs on debt.
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>>4751281
>aquaducts
Water towers and filtration are better imo.
Also the only real road is the kings road which is a dirt road and pretty shit so paving it could be good. Or gravel.
>>4751291
Yeah but at this point the only way out is through
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>>4751297
>paving it could be good. Or gravel.
You'd probably want cobble. Lasts forever. Sware on me nan
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>>4751281
desu better to have some work projects then enlist them the men will be stronger then
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>>4751297
I found a city of shit and I left it as gold.
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>>4751291
Centralised taxmen who answer directly to us instead of the lords who skim way too much of the top.
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>>4751469
Oy very you really want to be deposed and not even have a civil war. That is infringing on the rights of lords. All of them.

Census on the other hand is totally kosher...
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>>4751612
Fair enough.
But eventually we need a more centralised tax system.
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>>4751469
>yes hello my vassals, you aren't paying me enough
>so this man is going to make sure you're paying me enough

>later...
>local taxmen found dead "It was a suicide" says witness covered in blood
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>>4751622
Fair enough.
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>>4751618
Not in our life time an thus not a problem.
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I really like the premise, but it’s such a shame that it’s all at the expense of some dude that had a meltdown.
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>>4751858
I didn't have a meltdown and neither did Trick
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>>4751858
Nice try WhatIs, stay in your lane.
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>>4751858
Pretty based desu
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>>4751900
Based on what?
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>>4751960
Based on desu
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>>4750835
Wtf dude
You went to far with the coomer pedo stuff
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>>4750835
cease your degeneracy
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>>4751900
Lies
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I wonder what Velo is up to these days? Do you think he lurks these quests?
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>>4752063
I still hope velo will make a cameo in this quest
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Moving away from daddy dearest, you go find your cute little sister Myrcella, daintily eating a small portion of food with polite, ladylike table manners.

She notices you approaching and nervously gulps down whatever fare she was chewing by the time you come to a halt before her seat, happily beaming at her.

You reach out with your dominant right hand and pat her on the head again, relishing the silky feel of those golden curls which crown her cranium. “How is the Queen of Love and Beauty faring at my nameday feast?” you sweetly inquire.

The blonde princess blushes at your uncharacteristic positivity, your unabashed compliment cocooned within a reference to what happened at the joust and the gentle, repetitive touch of your finger tapping themselves on her scalp. “I'm doing well, brother,” she answers curtly.

“Thank you for speaking with mother about my change in attitude,” you tell her in earnest, not that Myrcella truly believes that to be the case, judging by the way her pretty, pink face blanches white in fear of what Joffrey's sadistic reprisal might possibly be for tattling on you to mother about her belief that everything about the new you is fake – which is a correct assessment, in a way. “We had a heart to heart about it while I got ready for supper. I think she and I bonded in a way we never really had before once we were able to articulate the truth with one another. You deserve all the credit for making that happen.”

Myrcella takes in a deep breath, narrowing her emerald eyes as she stares into yours defiantly. “What are you planning to do to me?” she bluntly asks.

This!” you declare, bringing your hand back down upon her head to perform several more delicate headpats, causing your younger sibling to wince and scrunch her shoulders to her neck, too wary of this being a potential set up to relax around your performative, doting display of physical, brotherly affection. “And I plan to continue doing it forever and ever, Myrcella. Mark my words.”

As you finish uttering your promise, the feast all around you starts to reach its natural conclusion and most of the attendees start returning to wherever they're resting their heads for the night. Your birthday is nearing its natural end as the hour of the wolf approaches, the black shroud of night enveloping the Red Keep and all of King's Landing.

>Go to bed at the royal apartments so you can get a good night's rest before starting your training with Robert tomorrow
>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
>Go to the Tower of the Hand to see Jon Arryn and speak with him about 'his' son
>Other (write-in)
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>>4752271
>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
Instead of hiding the book (with the risk of it being found) or destroying it (and potentially looking guilty) perhaps we can send it to Casterly Rock with Cersei, and she can conveniently leave it there on her return? Or just burn it idk.
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>>4752271
>>Go to bed at the royal apartments so you can get a good night's rest before starting your training with Robert tomorrow

Best we don't disappoint
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>>4752271
>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
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>>4752271
>>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
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>>4752271
>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
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>>4752271
>>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
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>>4752271
>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
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>>4752271
>>>Go to bed at the royal apartments so you can get a good night's rest before starting your training with Robert tomorrow
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>>4752271
>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
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>>4752271
>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
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>>4752271
>>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
We can use the book as proof for Jon too. Maybe spill some wine on the Baratheon section before we point out to him that Arryns aren't short and brown-haired but that his wife's childhood friend is.
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>>4752271
>>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
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>>4752271
>>Speak with Pycelle in his chambers beneath the rookery about a certain book
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>>4752291
Considering we are staying up late because of book autism...
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>>4752580
I'm sure both will backfire
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>>4752587
I hope so.
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>>4752600
Anons were warned
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>>4752606
When do anons ever listen to warnings in asoiaf quests? They always assume they will get everything their way and this is even more of a will fulfillment quest.
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After asking for directions from Sandor Clegane, you bid goodbye to the many sycophants and hangers-on wishing you a happy birthday and complimenting you on how wonderfully grandiose the celebrations were, as if you were the one responsible for all the effort invested into making it spectacular. Then you take your leave of the throne room, emerging into the warm, night air of late summer in the Crownlands, moon and starlight casting a shadow behind you in the form of the Hound – your constant companion even when you would consider yourself otherwise alone.

He silently follows along the path you weave across the cobblestones towards the rookery. A murder of crows squawks and chirps as you open the door into the building, their many gilded cages softly rattling from where they hang, lined with bird poop laden parchment.

You temporarily ignore the flock of black birds, descending from the noble perch of your messenger birds down below to where the Grand Maester lives, grimacing as your legs scream at you for afflicting them with more traversal of stairs.

You find Grand Maester Pycelle having just returned to his chamber only several moments before you entered. Sparse hair runs around the old maester's bald, spotted head and a long, snowy beard runs down to his chest and broad stomach over the red velvet robe he wears, affixed with an ermine collar and golden fastenings. He looks up at you with pale, rheumy eyes as you arrive upon his proverbial doorstep, affixing you with a smile – several teeth missing from Pycelle's small mouth.

“Good evening, your Grace,” the bald, wrinkly old man greets you with a shaky, arthritic bow, the two dozen heavy chains hanging off him, wound together and stretching from his neck to breast, clink softly as he moves his creaking old bones. The various metallic links symbolizing his esteemed scholarly position and many academic pursuits consist of brass, bronze, copper, iron, gold, lead, platinum, silver, steel and tin – the maester's chain itself decorated with amethysts, black pearls, emeralds, garnets and rubies. “It's been a joyous nameday, I hope.”

You smile back at him, nodding. “Yes it has, Pycelle.”

“Good!” he declares. “Then, what can I assist you with at so late an hour, Prince Joffrey?”

“I'm here to inquire about a tome in your possession, Grand Maester,” you explain to the Lannister puppet. “A book of lineages by Grand Maester Malleon, detailing the physical descriptions of many prominent noble families.

Pycelle quirks an eyebrow at your sudden and unexpected literary fascination, instinctively stroking his beard which hides the many warts upon his face. “I believe I recall having such a tome, your Grace. I fear you would find it of little interest, however. Tis a ponderous thing and Grand Maester Malleon was quite an unimaginative and droll scribe. The title alone would cause you to fall asleep, as well a growing boy should at this time of night.”
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>Then give it to me so I can read it, as I have trouble sleeping. Consider it a nameday present.
>Burn the book right now Pycelle and tell no one about its existence nor my command for you to do so. My grandfather, Tywin, wishes it so.
>May I peruse it, Grand Maester? I'd like to look through it a little to check on something. [And maybe alter a few of the entries with a nearby quill]
>Actually, fuck the book - tell me of the poisons you keep on hand here, Pycelle. Do you have tears of Lys?
>Other (write-in)
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>>4752634
>Then give it to me so I can read it, as I have trouble sleeping. Consider it a nameday present.
And don't log an entry in the record book.
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>>4752644
support
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Can he not doctor the book? I don't know how medieval books were bound. Though, I suppose Varys might end up changing it back if we do that.
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>>4752634
>>Burn the book right now Pycelle and tell no one about its existence nor my command for you to do so. My grandfather, Tywin, wishes it so.
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>>4752644
+1
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>>4752644
+1

This should redirect the roads of three characters directly to us. That's what we want, right? Hmm.
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>>4752644
+1
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>>4752644
Supporting.
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When we have time we should look at the Arryn page to see if there's a chance of proving if Sweetrobin is not Jon Arryn's son. Even if he can't be convinced, if he does die we can frame Lysa with it, and proceed with the Harry the Heir plan to destabilize the Vale.
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>>4752693
>proceed with the Harry the Heir plan to destabilize the Vale
We're king of the Vale, why would we want it destabilized? Littlefinger wants it destabilized so he can rule behind the curtain. Ideally we'd marry Myrcella or Shireen to Harry and send some advisor of our choosing, maybe Tyrion, to help rule and undo Petyr's debt scheme.
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>>4752644
Probably the best option
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>>4752644
>>4752634
Support
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Jesus Fuck what is up with this quest. It's like someone rang the retard dinner bell for every autist from here to /trash/. All the qm can do is jingle keys and hope the players follow. No solid goals apart from dicking mommy and praying medieval investigators don't know more than one way of skinning a lion.

>>4752634
May I peruse it, Grand Maester? I'd like to look through it a little to check on something. [And maybe alter a few of the entries with a nearby quill]

We're going to need that poison real fuckin soon at this rate
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>>4752705
Well currently the heir is Sweetrobin and we know he'll live for a few years yet. As long he lives, Lysa will rule through him, allowing Littlefinger to manipulate her into doing things he wants. Finding him illegitimate will elevate Harry from the Heir to the actual Lord of the Vale when Jon dies. Hopefully quickly enough for him to lend us aid in whatever war ensues. I don't think we are in disagreement here over what needs to be done.
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>>4752741
>It's like someone rang the retard dinner bell for every autist from here to /trash/. All the qm can do is jingle keys and hope the players follow.

Ding, ding ding

SHAME!
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>>4752741
Agreed. This is easily the dumbest playerbase I have ever encountered.
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>>4752752
I've seen worse.
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>>4752741
If you had a plan then why haven't you posted it 1000 posts ago? Sasuga lurker-kun. Everyone knows only the stupidest people can get their way with ambiguous input-lacking long term non-strats! In this battle of retards you have already lost.
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>>4752752
First quest?
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>>4752741
>>4752752

Share with the class why you believe the player base is behaving stupidly. It might elucidate a few things.
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>>4752758
I'd genuinely like to see examples.

>>4752763
There have been sporadic plans. They just get swallowed beneath layers of filth. The objective seems to only be to get as many fanboi'd characters as possible to like us and call us a good boy. The co-qm laid that out in the original thread and anons are happy to stick by it. Seeking validation from pop culture characters in a quest format is the most amazingly pathetic thing I have ever seen. I stand in awe.
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>>4752775
this mf be spitting.
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>>4752775
Pfft wait until we orchestrate the north's response to the night king.
That's where the real clingy fanboying will rear it's head.
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>>4752749
Might as well write up the degradation and exhibition pastebins now and get it over with.

>>4752763
I, thank god, wasn't here when whatever liquified the player's brains drove by. But now that I am let's see if we can work some non blood sacrifice magic. That or make the Balkens look like a picnic compared to Westeros after we're done with it.
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>>4752782
>I, thank god, wasn't here when whatever liquified the player's brains drove by.

What do you think is the dumbest thing they've done so far?
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>>4752775
I'd rather let sleeping cancer lie. Last thing you need is for the fags to hear themselves mentioned and show up to crash this party.
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>>4752769
Sure. Why not?

1. Dick riding the npcs. Almost every single one of them aside from the siblings and maybe the Hound is either a direct threat or wildly incompetent. We should absolutely be looking to kill off every single one of them before they set the country on fire. Robert is the top of that list. Gank his ass and take the reigns and then blindside the entire council. Flat out. No making friends with these faggots.

2. This philosopher king gayness. Why? For what purpose? What a useless goal in this context. It doesn't fit the setting and everyone will think we are the next Baelor the Retard. We already have knowledge and physical strength is only useful for fanboying the one guy we need to kill first.

3. Raising taxes. Are you fuckers insane? Enjoy the rampant abuse and the hatred of a thousand bannermen who you rely on for military support. They'd soon crown Moonboy than a taxer.
4. Gunpowder anons: Fuck you. That is all.
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>>4752787
>Last thing you need is for the fags to hear themselves mentioned and show up to crash this party.

Are you kidding? I love when WhatIsAQM drops by.
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>>4752769

>Trying to knight under "Dad"
>Taking Gendry
>Talking to mom period
>Messing with the overarching plot at all before we are king

All we had to do was coast along with self improvement till we were king then put down a few rebellions
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>>4752793
Yeah the Gendry thing is amazing. He's not even biologically related and there was nothing particularly interesting about him in the books beyond whose balls he came from. And that he has a better claim than us. Tell the Hound to kill him. Now.
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>>4752789
I like how you write and your attitude.
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>>4752786
Gendry could've laid. low let mom do most if not all the work. If people were concerned with the born of incest rumors all we needed to do was stop ned's eureka moment. Not bulldoz through the evidence like an elephant
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>>4752789
The point is to change things so much to the point that the QM gets twerked having to plug the largest of holes with his OC gluegun (it's not glue), amidst the panicking retardation that shall soon ensue, and therefore create a more responsive and intriguing environment for our unburied lead. The tampering thus far has ensured that unless fate corrects itself or we do a 180 our own character motivations have already destroyed a twelfth of the useful knowledge and predictability one can gain from the books.

This is good because it means suffering may become non-finite for all involved parties. You sound like you're actually playing to win. What a disgrace. I will support whatever plans you put forth thus far, just to show you how futile your ultimate "victory" shall be. You have my support in your inevitable and complete defeat, good anon.
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>>4752790
You have no idea what horrors wait beneath the surface of the autism. I'm gonna go cry in the bathtub and try to forget.
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>>4752808
The last vote was overwhelmingly:

>hey grand maester bro! It's the middle of the night? It's cool, I'm twelve now. Heh, we're total bros, right? Cool! I know I've never given a single shit about the written word before but do you have this very specific tome on lineages detailing physical descriptions. Oh! And totally don't tell anyone I asked for it! We're bros, right! *wink*

And just like that, the problem is solved! No way this can backfire and arouse any suspicions. I'm sure he'll cover for us.
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Would it really be a Joffrey quest if anons didn't go full retard in their quest to save the world and be the best Philosopher King™ and ended up doing more damage than the canon Joffrey?

>pic related: Varys' face when he finds out what the fuck Joffrey has been doing. Is he a genius? Is he a retard? Both?
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>>4752820
It's perfect. It's going to direct the plotlines of three whole major characters directly from Pycelle to us. We're the main character and now they have to pay so much attention to us. Isn't that wonderful?
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>>4752829
Considering the primary goal seems to be getting the most empty attention from Peter Dinklage and co, I'd say it's on point. My only hope now is that Elsweyr squints down at the pages and finds out he can't read a single fucking word of the written Westerosi language.
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>>4752837
as hilarious as that would be, Joffrey's body would know how to speak, understand and read the language
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>>4752820
The only chance I think we have now is to muddy the waters so fucking much. Let everybody who looks know something was obviously covered up but not something specific. Mess with absolutely everything and if that doesn't work. All I'm saying is if we have to burn down a library or two in up for it at this point
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Little do the other anons know I’m voting retardedly on purpose because we’re absolutely fucked.
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>>4752837
This wasn't my original plan, but I'm entertained as fuck watching where it's going. Hope you don't puss out on the eventual consequences of our retardation, Trick. The lows will be as enjoyable as the highs. Prepare to become king of the Salt Throne.
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>>4752863
>I was merely pretending to not be retarded retardedly
>for keikaku

I can feel my IQ growing from el osmosis.
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Why are elitist hardcore /qst/ lurkers bitching about how non-optimized our run of the quest is in their opinion and not offering a compelling vote in place of what everyone is voting for?

If they think they can big brain the quest, then prove it and don't use hindsight as a way to flex "hurr hurr I told you so". No, you didn't, you just bitched about the playerbase and did nothing in attempt to fix the issues you have. Come up with a compelling vote or you are just as stupid as the player base you are "flexing" on.
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>>4752870
Hit the nail right on the head
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>>4752871
>Why are elitist hardcore /qst/ lurkers bitching about how non-optimized our run of the quest is
Because they think quests started on /qst/, probably.
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>>4752871
>If they think they can big brain the quest, then prove it
Anon, you and I both know they won’t.
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>>4752871
That's why I said I'll support whatever plans they have. They think they won't burn, but they all think that at first.
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>>4752871
Make sure the king dies, preferably BEFORE he goes north and wraps the Starks into this. How? Poison him at the same time as Jon Arryn. Blame the entire council for it, Pycelle, Baelish, Varys. Stannis most of all. Execute them for it. They won't be missed.

How hard was that? But no, let's spar and carry around rival bastards in our pocket. That's productive.
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>>4752908
oke. +1.
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>>4752908
Win or lose is the mindset of people who fornicate with goats.

Real chads just enjoy the struggle.

Real chads also fornicate with goats they just don't need an excuse for it.

We're all goat fuckers.
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>>4752908
Make a write-in then. Be the change you want to see, I sure would like to see this quest go somewhere other than a meme because I genuinely love asoiaf before the money grifting and the GRRM hack bullshit. There are similar guys in other quest that would do a majority of the votes with actually good and productive ideas, this quest is sorely lacking in that.
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>>4752915
I thought the qm was a pony fucker?
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>>4752922
A pony is just a big goat with round pupils.
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>>4752908
Anon your plan will never work because iseaki quests and characters cannot plan more than a few in story hours ahead of time.
It never happens and never will.
They are driven by only passing interest and wildly overestimate themselves at every turn.
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Alongside the ratcatchers guild what other sort of guild or organization could we form? Any ideas?
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>>4752967
I want to drive all of the snakes off of Westeros. But we'll need a flute, first.
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“Then give it to me so I can read it,” you evenly order the Grand Maester. “as I have trouble sleeping.”

Grand Maester Pycelle frowns upon hearing your easily uttered demand. “W-what?” he asks, as if he simply didn't hear what you said due to the infirmities of his age. You know better than to indulge or acknowledge that performance.

“Consider it a nameday present, Pycelle,” you tell the doddering old man. “Fetch Grand Maester Malleon's tome and bring it here. To me.”

He stares at you a few moments longer before wavering beneath your unblinking, emerald gaze. “Y-yes, Your Grace,” the toadie obsequiously acquiesces, bowing again, before waddling off, his maester's chain chinking and clinking as he goes to his personal library of information, one bony finger trailing along the embossed lettering on the many hard covers of the books sitting upon his shelves.

You wait for a minute or two before Pycelle utters a short, stifled, “ah, there we are,” and groans in only slightly overacted exertion while removing a massive, old tome from its proper place, hefting the thing in both hands as he returns to his desk, dropping it on the wooden surface with a heavy thunk, exhausted by the effort.

Sure enough, you can easily read the cover since you've been well educated as any highborn lad should be, especially when they're heir to the throne. “The Lineages and Histories of the Great Houses of the Seven Kingdoms, With Descriptions of Many High Lords and Noble Ladies and Their Children by Grand Maester Malleon.

Bingo! “Excellent!” you pronounce, before returning your gaze to Pycelle's unattractive visage. “Oh and don't log an entry about this exchange in the record book, Grand Maester.”

“Your Grace?” he utters your title, slightly confused about the clandestine nature of your actions acquiring a simple history book.

“This gift can remain a secret between you and I, can't it? Lest others pester me to read it themselves if they discover it's in my possession.”

“What if another asks to borrow it, Your Grace?”

“Tell them you've lost track of the book and will search your quarters for it most thoroughly. I'm sure they'll forget about the request in time. I trust your judgment that it is ultimately quite the uninteresting tome. Good night, Pycelle.”

You pick the book up off the table, the muscles in your arms yearning for relief from the torture at being subjected to more heavy lifting.

“G-good night, Your Grace,” the Grand Maester replies as you turn around and leave his chambers, all four limbs now heavy as stone as you walk back up the stairs.

You and the Hound reach Maegor's Holdfast rather quickly, making it back to your princely bedchambers in the royal apartments unmolested, this time finding no uninvited visitors lurking inside as you arrive.

Servants have made your bed for you and you can feel your eyelids getting heavy.
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>Go straight to bed
>Burn the book in your fireplace
>Read the book for funzies
>Peruse the tome, make a few edits in the Baratheon section
>Peruse the tome, check the Arryn section and make a few edits there
>Other (write-in)
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>>4752983
>Other (write-in)
Look for a place to hide it, a loose floorboard or a locked cabinet.
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>>4752998
+1
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>>4752983
>>Go straight to bed

>>4752998
That would imply that we are trying to hide something, now wouldn't it?
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>>4752983
>Burn the book in your fireplace

>>4752998
Oh my god. Stop.
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>>4752998
+1
After that.
Hit the sack hard.
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>>4752983
>Go straight to bed
>heavily reconsider your recent life choices
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>>4752983
>>Peruse the tome, check the Arryn section and make a few edits there
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Why are we keeping evidence? Why are we making it look like evidence? Why? Spiders crawl under floorboards.
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>>4753010
Up yours
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>>4753010
>>4752983
Support burning the book. Oops I was playing with it and very Joffrey like chucked it at the fireplace. So funny teehee. Its not that hard guys...
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>>4753023
I guess this is what happens when the elitist name calls everyone and makes himself out to be a whiner. Can't say I blame the anons for going for meme choices now.
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>>4753034
Aren't like 6 people using this name? I'm fine with meme choices as well. I just don't understand the willful stupidity of writing in worse plans than the prompt.
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>>4753010
Fuck it yeah, I'm changing to burning the book.
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>>4753030
"that stupid book was so boring"
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>>4753066
>"The book said I had a weak chin. So I burned it."
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>>4752983
>>4753018
>>4753010
changing
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>>4752983
Burn the book in your fireplace
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>>4752983
>Read the book for funzies
>>4752998
+1

who do some want to burn it?
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>>4753096
I don't condone this post
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>>4753096
Why keep it when you can just get rid of it with an in character excuse?
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>>4753101
To burn it later in a less conspicuous place than our own fucking room.
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>>4753106
Joffrey is crazy for a reason y'know. For all anyone knows he had a crazy episode again, this isn't the time to be a goodie goodie right now.
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>>4753106
Are we banned from burning things in our fireplace? What is a less conspicuous location?
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>>4753115
Well you see there is this spot in the woods super hard to find that everyone for some reason knows about and they burn babies and shit there

so that sounds like a nice starting point
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>Burn the book in your fireplace

burn the motherfucker
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Why are there so many Elsweyr impostors?
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>>4753142
Because it provides anons a way to peek out of the closet. I should have just got a tripcode, but I didn't think it was necessary. Too late for it now.
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>>4752983
>Burn the book in your fireplace
And piss the bed on purpose because your a big boy
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>>4753106
Oh, like hiding it in our room isn't suspicious?
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>>4753016

Go straight to bed

>>4752998
>>4753003
>>4753012
>>4753096

Find a secret location in this room to hide the book

>>4753010
>>4753030
>>4753062
>>4753075
>>4753080
>>4753152

Burn the book

Who would win bros: a wealth of knowledge about ancestral lineages collected by one of the finest minds in Westeros or one little firebug boi

Writing!
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>>4753142
I'm the real Elsweyr and so is my wife
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>>4753171
FUG 'ERE WE GO
>why did you burn the book joffrey
>what book old man
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>>4753110
yeah be fun if jofferys madness started to effect us we have the same brain with the same flaws desu
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>>4753239
>>4753242
>>4753243
Fake
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>>4753243
It would be an interesting use of dice mechanics at least
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>>4753243
Nothing says "self insert" like not being yourself when you insert.

Or something.
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>>4752980
>read book
>burn book
>profit
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You immediately set about lighting a fire in your personal hearth, stoking the wood and coals with a nearby torch you retrieve from a sconce just outside your room in the hall before putting it back in its proper place.

Once the flame is raging and crackling with enough heat, you easily chuck the damning tome which proves the truth of your incestuous heritage into the fireplace, watching the parchment pages writ with ugly truths burn and curl, twisting as they burn black before disintegrating into ash and smoke – just another piece of kindling in the furnace like any other.

With this action complete, you are supremely confident you've drastically changed the course of history in your favor. Even if Jon Arryn holds his suspicions from Littlefinger's likely rumor mongering to Stannis about who your actual daddy is, there is no way in seven hells the current Hand of the King will now be able to confirm his suspicions beyond a shadow of a doubt. And even if Jon Arryn does investigate your heritage by looking into Robert's bastards and deems it sufficient proof, Littlefinger will still more than likely convince Lysa Arryn to poison her lord husband soon after. And at that point, Eddard Stark won't have the lead of Jon Arryn reading this book you've now destroyed before either man could get their hands on it.

You're just that tiniest bit more likely to survive these upcoming events and it has only been your first day living as Joffrey Baratheon. A good note to end it on, you think, as the desire to sleep starts overwhelming your brain.

Lying on your four poster bed in between satin sheets, your weary head resting on soft, goose feather pillows, you think about how being thrust into this form on the blonde psychopath's birthday is quite appropriate. It may have been Joffrey's twelfth birthday, but for you this was a rebirth – you're a newborn in the realm of Westeros. And you are planning on living a long, fruitful life. For now though, it's time to go to sleep and hope to god you don't reopen your eyes to see you've reawakened back on Earth in your twin bed – this whole fantasy turning out to merely have been an odd, ironic dream you were having.
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The chirping of birds outside your window wakes you from sleep and you immediately realize how sore, heavy and achy the muscles in your limbs feel as you absentmindedly stretch them. What the fuck did you do yesterday to make you feel this much like shit in the morning? Did you actually exercise or something?

A hard rapping knock on the door to your room draws your attention. . . wait, this isn't your room.

“Rise and shine, nephew,” a somewhat familiar voice speaks through the oaken material of the sole entrance into what looks to you like a fany room in a castle. “Our family is about to leave this stinking shit hole without us and we should see them off.”

Oh yeah, that's Tyrion speaking to you right now. You talked to him yesterday when – oh fuck . . . you're still Joffrey Baratheon.

Holy shit, that wasn't just a dumb fucking dream you were having. You jump out of bed, dressing yourself as fast as possible before opening the door to see the tiny figure of Tyrion Lannister standing beside the far larger and imposing figure of Sandor Clegane.

The Hound has his usual, hard to read scowl while the Imp's frown is far easier to interpret. “It is past time for you to bid your grandfather goodbye, Joffrey. Your absence has already been noted. Come quickly.”

You nod languidly, desperately trying to blink the sleep from your eyes. “Yes, uncle.”

Together, your motley trio leaves Maegor's Holdfast and enters the lower bailey. In the middle of it there sits a huge windowless double-decked carriage of oiled oak and gilded metal harnessed to forty heavy draft horses. A retinue of guardsmen and knights in Lannister colors surrounds the grand vehicle fit only for the royal family. As you approach, you see not only Queen Cersei and your siblings preparing themselves for the long journey to Casterly Rock, but also your uncle-father Ser Jaime in the white cloak and armor of his Kingsguard uniform as well as the stern-looking figure of your grandfather.

Bidding them all goodbye is an easy enough task for you to perform as the Crown Prince, but is there anyone you wish to speak with in-depth before they all leave for the next long while.

>Speak with Jaime (about what?)
>Speak with Cersei (about what?)
>Speak with Tywin (about what?)
>Speak with Tommen (about what?)
>Headpat Myrcella
>Other (write-in)
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>>4754024
>>Speak with Tywin
Apologize about not being able to spend time with him, and that the next time something like this happens you will go no matter what

>Headpat Myrcella

>Speak with Jaime
Tell him to keep Mother safe during the travels

>Speak with Cersei
Hug your mother and ask if she will bring something back from her stay.
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>>4754024
>>4754040
+1 on Tywin, Jaime and Myrcella. Throw in a hug to Tommen as well. These are short actions so I think we can them all in.

Probably tell Cersei not to take any rash actions (like ordering a botched assassination attempt on Baelish or Stannis) while we're still in the capital? Tell her to take this time to think on what can be done and when she's back we can coordinate on our plan of action.
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>>4754040
+1
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>>4754040
+1
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>>4754024
>>4754048
>>4754040
Seconding all of this.

I'd also add in saying something to Tywin about how we hope to spend more time with him in the future so that he might teach us how to rule and continue his legacy. A little flattery and evidence that we're not an entirely retarded sociopath might mollify any anger he has about our recent behaviour.
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>>4754040
+1 and just because we are being nicer doesn't mean we aren't a big brother, give tommen a titty twister or some shit.
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>>4754040
>>4754024
Support.
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>>4754040
+1
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>>4754048
+1
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Someone please tell me that the French kissing with Cersei was just a coomer fever dream
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>>4754147
No, that retardation actually happened.
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>>4754147
Eh look at it this way, at least we didn't get willingly vored by our rape-survivor loose pussy adoptive sister and now she won't let any females get a chance with the MC like what happened to the fatefags. Just ignore Cersei's come-ons.
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>>4754159
What?
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>>4754162
Yes, that is what happened in the Fate quest. I'm not bullshitting you. The main love interest is a rape survivor who is also the adoptive sister? Very strange...
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>>4754040
+1
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>>4754040
Support

I'd really like to beef up our retinue with some more guards desu.
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>>4754159
>>4754164
The more utterly inconceivable these quests get, the more and more im convinced that we are altering an actual dimension
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>>4754084
What if, instead of tommen, we gave our grandpa or Cersei a titty twister?
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>>4754183
Yes, preferably people who are loyal to ONLY us. I know anons are bitching about recruiting Gendry (which to be honest I don't think they would be if he was a waifu or something) but having people around us who are strong and are indebted to us is important if we want to keep snakes or soured relationships from ruining the resources we do have. I'm glad burning the book vote won, and we should do more to destroy any uncertainty of us being Bobby's kid and remove Baelish and Varys asap.
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>>4754188
Eh, keeping Gendry around is good because if you make him your friend, that disables him as a claimant due to the fact that he himself likely doesn't have any interest in being a king, let alone the training for it.

"Prince Joffrey your retainer is the rightful heir!"
"Ok, rightful heir, what do you say about this?"
"Go fuck yourself"

Furthermore he is a bastard, so it doesn't truly matter legally anyway, not unless you plan on changing succession laws to allow bastards to inherit.

He would need an army willing to press his claim. Of course if he is loyal to us and we get killed, he could potentially take control of your army in your name and carry out your will out of vengeance, which makes him more dangerous to Stannis and Renly than us.
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>>4754197
Yes, exactly!
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>>4754188
Gendry is nothing more than a liability, guess we're stuck with him though. Removing Baelish and Varys could snowball into worse outcomes though, we know what they're up to and where they are right now, better than them disappearing into the shadows and making plays we don't have a clue about.
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>>4754207
By remove I mean kill them. Baelish has no one loyal to him other than Lysa and maybe a delusional Cat. Varys has Allerio but he wouldn't dare make a move until FAegon can swing a sword. By that time hopefully no one would be desperate for a Targ king no matter how superficially "charismatic" he is.
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>>4754159
>get willingly vored by our rape-survivor loose pussy adoptive sister and now she won't let any females get a chance with the MC like what happened to the fatefags

. . . how pathetic
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>>4754040
+1

>>4754383
Indeed. Our Joffrey shall be the vorer, not the voreee. Now to get the list ready.
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>>4754048
support
>>4754383
based QM
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>>4754188
> (which to be honest I don't think they would be if he was a waifu or something)

At this point, I'm willing to push for him to be one for all of the sense this makes.

>>4754197
So, all of this is completely backwards. Well done.

>You are the rightful king and your friend here is an abomination born of incest
>Really? Okay, sounds good

No one is going to turn that down, though that won't ever come to pass with his uncles' ambitions.

>not unless you plan on changing succession laws to allow bastards to inherit

Which has been done on several occasions. Doesn't matter because both the uncles will be happy to rule instead.

> He would need an army willing to press his claim.

Surely his uncles that we haven't killed yet for some reason won't support blood over a Lannister.

> which makes him more dangerous to Stannis and Renly than us

Pfft. He's more useful evidence than any book. Too bad no one has the spine to kill him off and he can't be hidden under a floor board like Elsweyr's cum jar. Or was that for hiding a book? Whichever.
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>>4754147
>Someone please tell me that the French kissing with Cersei was just a coomer fever dream

That incestuous mother-son french kiss was an important scene, re-read it
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>>4754407
>Too bad no one has the spine to kill him off and he can't be hidden under a floor board like Elsweyr's cum jar. Or was that for hiding a book? Whichever.
I'd support that
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>>4754407
I formed a contract to +1 your plans so start posting them.
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>>4754417
>>4754423
Sounds good.

>>4754024
Since this >>4754040 might as well be a vote to do nothing,

>write-in: Inform Gendry that he is to go to Casterly Rock to be their new smith. Tell Cersei that Gendry is Robert's bastard and needs to die in a ditch on the Gold Road.
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>>4754040
>>4754428
Changing my vote to this.
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>>4754428
+1
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>>4754403
also changing my vote to this >>4754428
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>>4754040
>>4754048
>>4754053
>>4754059
>>4754068
>>4754084
>>4754102
>>4754108
>>4754135
>>4754183

This

>>4754428
>>4754429
>>4754430
>>4754444

That
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>>4754451
what a shame
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That anon posting about faggots looking for validation from fictional characters truly had a point.
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>>4754451
QM, methinks you are getting depressed about the course of the story?
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>>4754452
Anons thinking being machiavelic and actually planing stuff well will win the votes...pathetic
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>>4754452
>>4754457
If you guys really want to play edgy bad guy, we could just y'know. Kill Gendry whenever we wanted like Cersei did? She wasn't exactly a master schemer and she could kill a majority of Bobby's bastards in KL without much protest.
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>>4754462
>playing smart is being edgy
You may as well vote to commit suicide while you're at it.
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>>4754464
Oof I struck a nerve, I forgot that having fun wasn't allowed in a /qst/ and every run of a popular IP has to be super optimized otherwise we're making mistakes and "hurr I told ya so" anons will come to seethe about it. The story just began, we could kill Gendry and fart on Bobby's grave when the time comes. Or you could make a write-in hours later and stop bitching about "muh hindsight" when in your opinion the run isn't going well.
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>>4754470
>tldr I want to play like a retard as much as I want
rather pathetic desu
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>>4754476
You didn't read because what I said was the truth, and your autistic mind refuses to acknowledge that you use hindsight and pseudo-machiavellian posts as a way to make yourself out to be smarter than you actually are. Elitists are the cancer of this board, and no one can convince me otherwise. Kys.
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>>4754459
If it were proposed earlier, sure. It was too late in the vote window so everyone had already +1'd the braindead "everyone pls call me good boy" vote.

>>4754462
>not acting like a white knight cuckold even in a fantasy setting is edgy
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>>4754478
>seething and projecting so hard
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>>4754464
Bro, every single character on /qst/ and /tg/ before it devolves into the same semi-white knight. Nothing that can be done.
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>>4754482
>>4754484
Where were you two when we were in the last vote?
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>>4754478
>Killing off an obvious liability with a plan that took all of 15 seconds to come up with is now a mastermind move that makes everyone who voted for it an elitist

I'm sorry the bff bastard squad isn't going to work out, anon. Don't worry, someone else will give us a hug to make it feel better. Which character would you like a hug from the most?
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>>4754485
Problem is we're doing nothing constructive in quest except dicksucking all NPCs
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Voting to be a retarded good boi white knight in a series that explicitly kills those characters off is a bold choice, I'll say that much.
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>>4754488
You didn't answer my question, we could have gone the Machiavellian route if the vote went that way and I wouldn't have cared, why do you guys always show up when the vote is already called to seethe and pretend that "oh this is better because other anon said so?"
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>>4754488
>Which character would you like a hug from the most?
Hodor. Like a big teddy bear.
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>>4754493
Trick we could just go the other route, at this point I don't care. I just want to read the story. I'm tired of hindsight anons coming in to shit everything up hours after a vote is called.
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What is it about game of thrones quests that attracts so many turboautists?
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>>4754494
I did the write-in at the end there. I'm out phoneposting so my ip is changing. I slept in and got to the vote too late to swing it back the other way with something not retarded. Shit happens, I guess.
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>>4754497
I want to hug the Night King and get turned into a popsicle, feels good.
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>>4754502
shitposting QMs
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>>4754459
I just asked myself what would i do, then did that.
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>>4754506
I wanted to make the night king our imouto and then have a tea party with dany and job. Can we split the difference?
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>>4754515
Anon picture this, Night King imoutou vore.
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>>4754516
yess
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>>4754516
>>4754526
why the fuck has vore come up in a lot of quests recently?
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>>4754562
Anon...
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>>4754562
What do you mean? They've always been there. Remember that next time you're shopping for lettuce or cheese at the supermarket.

Vorefags are everywhere.
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>>4754562
Because Fate is a porn series designed for degenerates who like loli and other disgusting fetishes.
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>>4754588
I still think that WhatIs comes in here to shit up the thread in his spare time.
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>>4754562
Reread GoT from the perspective of a vorefag and tell me it isn't seeping out of the pages with five other disgusting yet divine absolute fetishes. Go on anon. Know your innermost heart. The vore was always there, just waiting for you to discover it and understand your self.
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>>4754598
Didn't Dany imagine feeding people who went against her to her dragons, sounds like vore to me. Martin had a dwarf and burly man fetish too.
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>>4754588
I just want to make people happy.
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>>4754493
The way I see it, either you'll indulge in our noblebright takeover and being a good boi will pay off, or we'll be crushed by reality and the last post will be Stannis and Olenna doing a jaunty two-step on our corpse. I'll be thrilled to see either.
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>>4754407
>Surely his uncles that we haven't killed yet for some reason won't support blood over a Lannister.
>implying Stannis and Renly would be willing to put their ambitions on hold just to support a common-born bastard

That's some funny shit right there.
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>>4754700
>noblebright
The problem with that line of thinking, and I get this is one of those hallmark traits of autism issues, is that the entire world doesn't just bend around our perspective.

>>4754725
Did you read the rest of the post where I said precisely that?
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>>4754757
I did, but I was wondering why you would chose such low hanging fruit when you originally discounted it earlier in your post. Seems like shitty argument when you revive a dead horse just to beat it more.
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>>4754757
>The problem with that line of thinking, and I get this is one of those hallmark traits of autism issues, is that the entire world doesn't just bend around our perspective.
I know that and you know that, but this MC we have seems pretty damn autistic. He even thought as much to himself.
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>>4754598
Well the books as a whole was the sum of all the fat man's fetishes poured in to create an interesting story. Vore, dwarves, pyromania, rape, incest etc..
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>>4754769
He has a furry fetish too because of the constant skin changing into wolves thing
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>>4754769
>>4754785
Bran's thoughts of fucking Meera with Hodor's body always seemed like the parts of the story with the most fetishized bang for your buck, so to speak. At least he didn't think of using Summer.
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>>4754407
>No one is going to turn that down, though that won't ever come to pass with his uncles' ambitions
Some people actually love their countries and would rather see a competent man they know rather than take his place, especially when they are guaranteed a place by their friend's side anyway

>Which has been done on several occasions.
No, you have had bastards press claim by force or being legitimized, but this literally is as big a threat as anyone with an army.

>Surely his uncles that we haven't killed yet for some reason won't support blood over a Lannister.
Renly supports himself, Stannis supports himself and his daughter. Neither is consequential if you actually are popular enough to get maximum levy size from KL.

>He's more useful evidence than any book.
Allegations at best, hell, getting rid of the book was kinda pointless too because every noble house in history worth their salt has a record of lineages on their country, if for no other purpose than planning alliances and lines of succession.

The fact that Gendry remains around as a bastard simply means that he is excellent for muddying the waters and confusing the narrative.

Nobody actually follows anyone because of blood ties alone, they also need to have some leadership skills as well. If the people like us enough to actually be genuinely pissed off to see us removed, then the prospect of lineage becomes irrelevant because having a good king is better than a shitty king.
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>>4754791
What would you call that, a SI fetish?
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>>4754798
This is the best take of the so called "cuck-white knight" route that elitist are shitting on because it doesn't fit their 5D chess psuedo-Machiavellian kill everyone and everything plan. We need more nuanced viewpoints other than "hurr I told you so anons, Joffrey have no friends and kill people teehee" randomly swooping in hours after a vote has been decided on. This will be the last time I'm gonna talk about this because elitists will never agree with a plan that is not elaborate or 5D for a source material with characters that are delusional and make up excuses for obvious things like Sweetrobin = Not Jon's kid.
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>>4754824
>randomly swooping in hours after a vote has been decided on.

I'm not sure where this is coming from. I posted before the QM called the vote and several agreed with me. It was too late to flip things, but I thought it was better to make an attempt than to do nothing.
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>>4754833
You posted around 5 or 6 hours after a overwhelming majority was reached, pretty sure it was safe to say that it had been called. To be fair I wanted to flip to your vote because I like playing grey characters but by that time it was far too late.
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>>4754824
>like Sweetrobin = Not Jon's kid

Speaking of that, I'm wondering if we can change the narrative focus of the Hands figuring out our bastard heritage to figuring out Sweetrobin's. It would be a huge diversion for both Jon and Ned if we get them interested enough to go down that rabbit hole.
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>>4754841
Yes that sounds good.
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>>4754838
Like I said, I was sleeping. I don't see why I should skip out on an open vote just because my opinion looks drowned out. I thought it was productive to get that angle out there even if it might have to wait a vote or two to bear fruit.
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>>4754807
Well, let's break it down. We have Bran, a 9-year-old boy getting "concerned" (read horny) for Meera, a lithe 17-year-old girl. Bran is crippled from the waist down and busy training how to be a psychic with Brynden, a 125-year-old man, so he thinks that his best option for comforting/fucking Meera while her brother is being bled dry in the other room is by hijacking the body of Hodor, his 40ish-year-old 7+ foot-tall retarded manservant to do the deed for him. Hodor, lest we forget, doesn't like getting his body piloted by Bran. So, we have pedo shit, age gap, voyeurism, burly man, svelte girl, off-camera bloodplay, cuckshit, forced, handholding, crippled shit, large insertion, cuddling, raep (seperate from forced), and deflowering, all in the fantasy of one kid. I might be overlooking something, but the point is that Winds won't come out until George can find a publisher cool with all that being graphically featured in a rather large literary work.
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>>4754862
The second point is that frenching Cersei could've gone much much worse, but I digress.
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>>4754862
Gotta love the creep factor here. Only GRRM could come up with shit this fucked up.
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>>4754024
Are you dead?
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You confidently stride over to where your mother awaits to say her goodbyes to you for now, Tommen and Myrcella practically tugging on her skirts impatiently to hop in the carriage and get going. You give Cersei a full body hug which she returns somewhat stiffly, likely still wigged out by the non-platonic kiss you two shared in the bath tub yesterday and the obvious issue of physically intimate expressions of affection thereafter – the thick line between mother and lover between you now forever smudged by that unfortunate brush with how closely your visage resembles that of her brother as well as your own hand in initiating the amorous advance upon her.

“Don't do anything rash while I'm still in the capital,” you whisper smoothly into her ear, causing the older woman who birthed you to shiver at the sensation.

“You as well,” she whispers the advice right back. “I love you more than anything in the world. Be safe, my sweet boy.”

She pulls back and runs her hand through your springy, golden locks, looking upon you with an adoration that can't be denied.

You smile at her. “Bring me something back from your stay at The Rock.”

She nods. “I will, Jofrrey. Tommen, Myrcella – wish your elder brother goodbye.”

You give tubby Tommen a hug as well, rubbing his back as you give him your well wishes and the embrace you share with your younger sister Myrcella incorporates a gentle, caressing head pat.

Having concluded parting ways with the family members whom you've engendered the most familial attachment with, you turn to regard Ser Jaime Lannister of the Kingsguard, seated upon his steed with a casual, cocksure posture.

“Keep mother safe during her travels,” you perfunctorily request of your uncle, giving him a nod of respect.

He returns your nod with a smug chuckle attached. “I promise to remain by her side day and night, Your Grace.”

You mimic his smirk as you retort, “I'm sure you will.”

After that subtle exchange of remarks implicating incestuous relations, you head over to where Lord Tywin Lannister, Warden of the West is horsed upon a stallion charger with its own gilded armor, the destrier draped in a blanket with enameled crimson scales, gilded crinet and chamfron, as well as crimson silk bardings decorated with the Lannister lion.

The steel plate armor your grandfather wears for this trip home is enameled in deep crimson and highlighted with gold, and its rondels are golden sunburts. His heavy cloth-of-gold great cloak is clasped with gold miniature lionesses, and his great helm is decorated with a roaring, ruby-eyed lion. A long sword with a gold pommel rests in a scabbard at his side.
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You bow to the imposing figure. “I apologize, Grandfather, for not being able to spend more time with you this nameday. I promise I will go with you back to the Rock next time.”

He grunts at your promise. “Bold of you to assume your grandfather will still yet draw breath by your next nameday, Your Grace. It appears my gift to you this year will be my youngest child's companionship. Mayhaps it is what you deserve. Goodbye.”

And with that single word uttered coldly by the Lord of Casterly Rock, the procession starts to move. Several dozen Lannister guards that Tywin brought with him to King's Landing as his retinue crack the reins on their horses, riding out from The Red Keep as a vanguard for the ensuing departure of the Queen's wheelhouse. Soon, it too starts to roll, pulled by two score horses. Within a matter of minutes, most of your closest family is out of sight and will soon be gone from the capital for at least the next fortnight.

You turn to Tyrion. “I believe the master-at-arms was looking for you, Your Grace,” the dwarf reveals with an only slightly sadistic smile at your impending expense. “You are to begin your advanced martial training at once now that you've said farewell to the royal family, as per King Robert's command.”

You groan, still quite groggy from lack of sleep and physically exhausted by the exertion of sparring with the Knight of Flowers yesterday.

Welp . . . today's definitely going to suck. But once you're done exercising and doing whatever other essential tasks are set out for the purpose of the crown prince's education, what exactly are your plans?

You have nearly free reign of King's Landing and roughly two weeks until something major – the death of Jon Arryn – is semi-destined to occur. Do you want to just train your mind and body while you wait or would you like to interact with someone here in the capital to influence them or would you like to accomplish something you think will be important to altering the course of history in your favor?

Your options, while not limitless, are fairly open.

>What do? (write-in)
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>>4754960
>>What do? (write-in)
Lets work with Tyrion on improving the sanitation of kings landing and most importantly, establishing the rat catchers guild.
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>>4754975
Support. The rat catchers will be our gestapo, all that will be left to do is extending the definition of rat to whoever our political enemies are at the time.
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>>4754960
>>What do? (write-in)
>Ask Tyrion if he thinks any of the whores at Littlefinger's brothel might be willing to join our payroll as informants
Of the two schemers in the city, Petyr is the one we should work on ridding ourselves of first. Shame we burnt the book, editing the entries of import would've been much more useful in that regard.
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>>4754991
Seeing as Joffrey is not a master scribe or forger, any editing we did would have been painfully obvious.
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>>4754960
>>What do? (write-in)
>work with Tyrion on improving the sanitation of kings landing and most importantly, establishing the rat catchers guild.
>Ask Tyrion if he thinks any of the whores at Littlefinger's brothel might be willing to join our payroll as informants
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>>4754991
I told you we should have hidden the book under a floor board.
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>>4755002
I was thinking Pycelle could help with that. Maesters have good penmanship.
>>4755007
That vote happened while I was asleep, I would have supported it if I was awake. Wouldn't have flipped it though. Oh well, the fact all that information was in once place is what made the book special, not the information itself. We can prove Sweetrobin's bastardry the hard way.
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>>4754960
Focus on improving King's Landing sanitation with Tyrion. I like the rat catcher's guild idea.

I don't think we should try poaching Littlefinger's whores. Ask Tyrion to start setting up a spy ring of our own but let him focus on the details.

We need to train like hell as a knight. Maybe pester Robert for war stories, particularly those involving Ned Stark. He'll like it, and we could actually lean 1. tactical knowledge. 2. political knowledge.
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We should explore the tunnels and secret passageways in the Red Keep and make a map. We'll know an emergency exit in case we need it, we'll become aware of where we can speak freely without little birds listening in, and we'll have a way to frame Lysa once she poisons Jon. We can say that we were exploring the Hand's Tower when we heard Lysa muttering to herself that she'll kill Jon if he takes her precious son away from her.

On that note, maybe bribe the goldcloaks on the gates of the city to not let Lysa escape. We know the general timeframe, and the guards on the gates are one of the most corrupt, so we shouldn't have too many problems.
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>>4754960
Lets work with Tyrion on improving the sanitation of kings landing and most importantly, establishing the rat catchers guild.
Let's see if rat catchers can double as informants over the common populace
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>>4755050
Bribing the golds would be a really good idea, but tyrion should do so 'as to control traffic in and out of the city.'
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>>4755050
>>4755065
>bribe the goldcloaks
To paraphrase a certain someone, the goldcloaks are loyal to whoever pays them. The person paying them is the Master of Coin. Guess who has a vested interest in Lysa and Sweetrobin escaping?
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>>4755077
>Guess who has a vested interest in Lysa and Sweetrobin escaping?
Mathos Mallarawan
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>>4755084
Bang-on there, anon. Him, Harys Swyft, Quhuru Mo, and the Tourmaline Emperor of Yi Ti are all trying to have illborn bastards come to power as the high lords of the Seven Kingdoms so they can be easily deposed during their invasion of Westeros.
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Need assistance plotting the route, taichou.
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>>4755037
>>4755050
+1

Also, spend some time bonding with Gendry.

We could also implant the dragonglass idea with Stannis, make him start gathering it early. We could spend some time with Shireen as well, could be an interesting way to implant the idea. Plus, the poor gal deserves some headpats.
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>>4754975
>>4755050
+1 until His Eminence directs me otherwise.
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>>4754960
We should keep an eye out for anyone hanging or lunging around us when we pass or speak, including the cleaning servants, and various courtiers.

>>4754960
>What do? (write-in)
Have a brief chat with Gendry and talk to tyrion a bit about rats, tradecraft, and sanitation.
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Fuck it, I'll change >>4754991 to support >>4754975. We should check up on Gendry too. Not sure how we'd even begin to find passages in the Red Keep on our own, better to ask Varys about that in a nice, non-suspicious manner. With Sandor ready to kill him if he tries to trap us in the walls.
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You spend the next several hours drilling your swordsmanship with Ser Aron Santagar, the Red Keep's master-at-arms and the man who has been charged with instructing you and Tommen in the art of swordplay since either of you were old enough to hold a weapon.

The knight seems pleased by your renewed dedication to mastering the blade as he puts you through the ringer and pushes you to your absolute limits in concordance with your royal father's commands, hoping to break you down before building you back up better than before – like castle-forged steel smelted and hammered to match the quality of your long sword Lion's Tooth.

You sweat like a pig and your already aching limbs tremble with the aftershocks of agony by the time your teacher dismisses you from your regularly scheduled torture.

Returning to the royal apartments, the serving maids draw you a far less sexually charged bath to soak and luxuriate in as you recover from your training. You spend half an hour simply relaxing, before you hop your pruny, weak pretty boy body out of the tub and slip back in to your royal refinery.

Afterwards, you go searching for your uncle and quickly discern his location by asking around the Red Keep's household servants for which empty room in which oft-forgot building he has been moved into.

Upon eventually finding Tyrion's new living space, the open door guarded by two swordsmen sworn to House Lannister, it seems the Imp has already situated himself comfortably in his new apartment, sitting at a desk before a pile of half a dozen books stacked several feet high, perusing a map of King's Landing as he day drinks, sipping red wine from a goblet.

“Please enter, Your Grace,” the Imp invites you in as he notices your presence on the periphery of his vision. You walk in, taking a seat in an empty chair on the other side of where Tyrion Lannister studies. He looks up at you, his shrewd eyes still not entirely sure what to make of you. “So – are you here to get your hands dirty in the city's cisterns, nephew?” he japes and the two of you share a giggle together.

“I plan to see them submerged wrist-deep in the shit, nuncle. I wish to learn all I can from the Master of Filth.”

“I believe my official title is Chief Architect of Sanitation,” Tyrion dryly corrects you. “A wondrously droll title which I must extend my thanks to you for securing me.”

“Worry not of it,” you assure him. “Now, where shall we begin?”
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Tyrion shows you maps of King's Landing's cisterns, drains, aqueducts and the general flow – or lack thereof – of night soil and garbage from the city proper down the appropriate channels to either the river or Narrow Sea. He spends many hours recounting to you his extensive history and experience in charge of Casterly Rock's drainage and the many lessons he learned both on the job and from reading the writings of architects and plumbers which came before him, who had the foresight to scribble down their musings. There's a lot to consider when it comes to plumbing and most of your collaboration with the far more veteran sanitation expert is simply you sitting quietly, learning the basics and ropes from the dwarf while he expounds upon ideas he's considering on how to proceed fixing the stink lingering in the capital. Every once in awhile you'll nod your head or offer your somewhat ignorant opinion if he asks for it, being far more helpful by holding books open and reading certain passages aloud while Tyrion quietly leafs through another tome at the same time.

The sun sets in the sky, bathing your uncle's quarters in moonlight as candles are lit for you to see more clearly by. You take your dinner privately in his quarters so you don't need to cease your work for long.

Eventually, Tyrion says the magic words which prompt you to broach the scheme churning in your head. “Any ideas, Joff?”

You nod vehemently. “One in particular, nuncle. What if we established a rat catcher's guild?”

Tyrion cocks his head at your suggestion. “Rat catcher's guild?” he repeats, curious as to your meaning.

“Yes – a group of men tasked with catching and killing the many rodents squeaking underfoot throughout the city. Rats are flea-ridden, foul-smelling, vermin, rife with disease and plague. If we could establish an auxiliary to the gold cloaks focused on their removal in the name of sanitation – mayhaps we attract these individuals to join by paying them a bounty of one copper penny per rat they manage to capture and slay – we could reduce the population considerably.”

Tyrion furrows his brow and ruminates on what you've just said. “Not a half bad plan, nephew. But what sort of man would want to join such a disgusting profession.”

You smirk at the Imp. “The sort not afraid of getting their hands dirty like ourselves, nuncle – accustomed to the seedier underbelly of King's Landing, willing to slither their way into whatever cracks they must to catch their quarries wherever they lair, good at skulking about undetected, setting traps for their targets, outwitting their prey in allegiance to the promise of coin. They would need to carry arms, naturally – daggers and the like for slitting throats or piercing skulls, lest these desperate small folk wish to sully their hands, personally wringing the necks of the rats we send them out to find and quell. Do you comprehend my meaning?”
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Tyrion narrows his eyes. “I believe I might, Your Grace. This rat catcher's guild would answer solely to us, I'd presume?”

“Exactly,” you confirm. “It would all be done in the name of sanitation and thus falls under your purview, Chief Architect.”

The dwarf chortles. “A considerable gamble indeed. Very well, Your Grace. The minimal costs associated with establishing such an organization doesn't sound too great a poison to swallow, considering the humble budget I've been allotted by the Master of Coin. And I do believe I relish the idea. I'll get started on it first thing in the morning. Tonight, however, I believe it's time for bed. Shall I escort you to your apartments?”

You shake your head, standing up to shake some of the stiffness out of your legs. “That won't be necessary. Good night, Tyrion.”

>What next? (write-in)
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>>4755318
Talk to Gendry or talk to Jon?
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>>4755318
Ask the Hound to share his experiences with us, talk of battle and all that.
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>>4755318
>>What next? (write-in)
See if we can find Varys and tell him about our "suspicions" about Sweetrobin's parentage and ask him for help thwarting Littlefinger's plots. I want to nip Baelish's dealings in the bud, but just going to Jon and telling him we think his only son is actually a bastard, especially without the book, won't accomplish anything. We know more about Varys's plans than Baelish's so better the devil we know.
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>>4755318
Find Gendry and see how he's settling in.
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>>4755331
>>4755355
+1

Then sleep. What shall we focus on tomorrow, lads?
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>>4755354
I think its best we stay off both of their radars for the time being.

>>4755358
Perhaps we should immerse ourselves into something else that might expand our administrative abilities?
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>>4755361
>I think its best we stay off both of their radars for the time being.
Gonna have to get stuck in eventually, might as well do it now.
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>>4755318
>What next? (write-in)
Sleep?
Then in the morning after training see gendry.
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>>4755361
I guess the question is, what specifically?

Also, maybe we should consider pumping some iron as well? Never too late to build some muscle after all.

>>4755382
I'd prefer we avoid them for the moment. We don't want to tip our hand too early, or start changing their schemes to the point that our meta-knowledge becomes useless (though we know most of the long term schemes, it's the short term ones we'd have to worry about).
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>>4753106
>>4753115
What time of year is it? Surely unless it's summer then we could have at least a little fire going?

If it's even just a slightly chilly night then there's nothing suspicious at all about us having a fire in our room. As long as we make sure the whole thing burns properly and don't leave any convenient scraps of paper or whatever for prying eyes to find in the fireplace later we should be fine.
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>>4755382
Better to wait for a good opportunity to use our knowledge.

>>4755408
Perhaps we can seek to learn something of the general infrastructure of the crownlands and current capabilities for improving it.
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>>4755427
Our knowledge is useless without proof, which is something we had until we decided to toss it into our hearth because anon wanted to be Machiavellian or something. We gotta make up for that now and find some more, and Varys is the only person we know, save for MAYBE Olenna Tyrell, with the spy network large enough to do that.
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Before we go to bed I'd feel a lot better if we just double-check that there's nothing left of the book in our fireplace, nor evidence of anyone scrabbling around in the grate for, say, conveniently un-burned pages or whatnot. Although I suppose the servants may well have cleaned it out during the day and really we should have looked first thing this morning it does no harm to check.

On an unrelated note, do you suppose Joffers is running around in our body back home? I wonder what manner of merry shenanigans the weird little psycho is getting up to?
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>>4755451
>Before we go to bed I'd feel a lot better if we just double-check that there's nothing left of the book in our fireplace, nor evidence of anyone scrabbling around in the grate for, say, conveniently un-burned pages or whatnot. Although I suppose the servants may well have cleaned it out during the day and really we should have looked first thing this morning it does no harm to check.
Agreed.
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>>4755442
I'm just glad we managed to nip the book autism in the bud by burning it.
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>>4755468
The only thing we ensured is that anyone investigating our legitimacy won't be able to find proof to their theories in the Keep. Such an important book most likely has been copied and houses keep their own records of marriages and births for obvious reasons. Wouldn't be surprised if there's another version at the Citadel or something.
>>4755451
I think we were hit by a car and woke up here, so probably not. Although being trapped in a decaying body, unable to move or escape or do anything really, is an appropriate punishment for Joff.
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>>4755451
>On an unrelated note, do you suppose Joffers is running around in our body back home? I wonder what manner of merry shenanigans the weird little psycho is getting up to?

I'll run that quest after this one.
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>>4755442
Do you really think that is the only book on lineages there is? We can get another it will just take time.
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What about trying to get in on the whaling industry?
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>>4755562
I know that that information can be found elsewhere, that's part of the reason burning the book in the first place was so retarded. Why'd we burn it at all if a) we need it to neutralize Baelish and b) the people we're trying to keep it away from can get it elsewhere? If Mannis and Jon can find what they want in other places, they're the element we need to get on, not the book. We can get Jon indebted to us by helping him with his secession issue and Mannis, without any support for his claim that we're an illegitimate incest baby, will look like a power-hungry lunatic.
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>>4755602
Imo we just need to wait until balish kills Jon, for what I presume are his own reasons.
Getting Jon on our side is a nonstarter because he looks at bobby b as his own son and would hate us for the fact out mom is fucking him.
Having stannis not know we are a bastard will hopefully keep him in line so he never even acts up in the first place. All we need to do is get Peter killed over Jons death, hell if we know how we can lie a bit and hopefully get his wife arrested trying to flee.

Even claim he is the one who hide the book of robin is born yet in order to hide his own actions. Just need pycelle to lie on our behalf.
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>tfw anons permanently scarred our relationship with mommy
Retards, the lot of you. We could've had cuddles.
>>4755318
This >>4755355
>>4755545
Doomed quest idea, anons aren't psychotic enough to do Joffrey justice.
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>>4755623
Maybe it's doomed, but it'd be a cool concept.
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>>4755612
>Getting Jon on our side is a nonstarter because he looks at bobby b as his own son and would hate us for the fact out mom is fucking him.
But if we, say, discover for him that his heir is a bastard and then save him from the poison his wife slips him so she can elope with the man she demanded be granted lands and titles (as I wedding present from Jon, I think), he'll be in our debt. Remember, this is the guy who taught Ned to be an honorable idiot. Ned, who was willing to give up his lands and titles to save his family. Jon would let us slide to repay his debt and to save the realm from a bloody war.
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>>4755658
Still better for him to be dead imo he's old and likely to die soon anyway. Best to have him die so we can get ahead.
At youngest he is 78 or oldest 80. Time to kick the bucket you old crab.
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>>4755674
How does him dying get us ahead? The only person Jon's death benefits is Baelish, someone we don't want good things to happen to.
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>>4755682
Arryn will march with the Starks and Tulleys if it comes down to it.

As far as reforms go, how about improving housing to clear up shanties and so forth?
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>>4755658
>>4755674
>>4755682
>>4755703
What we really need is to divert Jon with his own bastard problem, regardless if he dies or not. If he smells smoke, then Baelish is the one fanning the flames. We need Jon to write down his suspicions about his wife before he potentially dies, so that we have evidence to back us up in our conspiracy.
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>>4755703
>Arryn will march with the Starks and Tulleys if it comes down to it.
No they won't, have you read the books? The fact that they holed themselves up in the Vale is a whole plot point and central to Petyr's plan. They wind up with one of the only untouched army and territories in Westeros.
>>4755708
Exactly, and we're gonna need to convince him both that we aren't a problem and that Robert isn't his son.
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>>4755623
Bold of you to assume I want to actually spend time with the cunt.
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>>4755682
>Jon dies
>Lisa gets mad at Bobby and try to leave capital
>Rat catchers catch her and bring her back to red keep
>We accuse Peter of killing her to his him plowing Lysa
>Lysa breaks down at the sight of Peter in danger and confesses (can plan this out better later desu)
>We get them both shortened by a head
>Send the freak robin away.
>Harry becomes new lord of Vale
> We try to get him to stay in capital for a while

If war breaks out harry wi like us more than starks and side with the golden boy who put him in power and ousted the evil money man.
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>>4755724
* Killing him to hide his plowing Lysa
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>>4755716
I just want some FUCKING CUDDLES
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Cersei is for hatefucking and reluctantly cuddling while she tries to extract promises from us. Then feeling a little guilty but doing it again.
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>>4755741
And you pick the second most psycho bitch to do it with?

Bro just cuddle with Tyrion. He's just as starved for affection as you are apparently.

Oh sick burn. You're gonna need some cool water for that. Because cool water is good for soothing non-injurious skin aggravation via heat. Fricken, owned.

Seriously though I get that she's mommy (literally) but you can do better.
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>>4755777
>Seriously though I get that she's mommy (literally) but you can do better.
at this stage every 'hot chick' is either a little girl or unavailable.

the only other option for smoking hot babe we have half a shot with is margaery tyrell .
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>Manufactorums.
We have way to many people in the capital.
Is it possible to make manufactorums for these masses of citizens?
Going more in debt if people are down.
It's a long term idea.
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>>4755789
What? No I meant better for cuddles. You don't need to be hot for superior cuddles.
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Pour one out for Elsweyr. Corona got him. RIP, brave soul
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>>4755790
Do you mean factories bro?
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>>4755824
No. Manufactorums were workshops were people did standardised work in bulk. This was even before steam engines or just at the dawn of steam engines. So not a factory.
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>>4755838
It can be that I misspelled the word, but in Paris they had these things around the time of the revolution. (I think even earlier).
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The next morning, after finishing your combat training under the tutelage of Ser Aron Santagar, you decide to check in on your good pal Gendry who now works as one of the royal blacksmith's apprentices in the Red Keep by your command.

You find the teenager diligently working at his post in the castle armory, helping forge the arms and armor meant for the many different factions who dwell in King's Landing – the gold cloaks, the Kingsguard, the sworn swords of House Baratheon and Lannister, squires and knights directly in service of either the King or some other individual who resides here at the capital. All in all, there is a variety of work to be done for a variety of individuals.

The burly, blue-eyed, black-haired bastard boy bows to you in greeting as he notices your approach, putting down the pair of tongs he holds in his hands. “Good day, Your Grace,” he speaks plainly.

You smile at the product of Robert's loins. “And a good day to you as well, Gendry. I came by to see how you were settling in.”

He shrugs. “Alright I suppose, Your Grace. Blacksmith here isn't as happy to train me nor half as skilled as Master Mott. Got me a nicer place to sleep and better food, though. Keeping my head down, like you said. Still not sure what you expect me to be doing on this team a yours.”

“It may take awhile for it to come together,” you admit. “For now, focus on mastering your craft like you were doing back on the Street of Steel before I arrived.”

Gendry nods. “Very well, Your Grace. One question, though: If on this team I represent the Smith, which of the Seven do you?”

>The Father
>The Warrior
>The Stranger
>None. I'm not on the team, I just run the team like Nick Fury runs the Avengers.
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>>4755881
>None. I'm not on the team, I just run the team like Nick Fury runs the Avengers.
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>>4755881
>The Father
For in time I shall pass judgement on all in the realm, from the lowliest of beggars to the mightiest of lords. It is my hope in creating this group that I have heard of a wide range of experiences before I make a decision, as the Father above judges us all justly.
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>>4755866
>>4755838
in english they're called manufactories, not factorums
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>>4755881
>The Stranger
I like playing up being a weirdo
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>>4755907
Ah ok then.
So good idea or kinda shit?
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>>4755881
>The Father
If we're going to be the augustus of Westeros than this is the best option.
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>>4755881
>>The Stranger
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>>4755927
it depends on if trick is a realism fag or not. if he is, it won't work. manufactories relied on a growing shift from rural to urban living for its work base, a growing centralization in population, and iirc the a song of ice and fire verse is still very agrarian based. manufactories were the consequence of social change as much as a product of it.

essentially they exist because the growing international trade networks of the early modern period demanded more and more products to trade, demanding an increase in production, creating these manufactories that drew more people from the country to the city in search of work. the wealth from international trade was already drawing people away from rural lives, manufactories increased it, then mechanized factories super-charged it.

without a large international trade network demanding more products for the reward of greater wealth, they don't have a lot of reason to exist.

its also worth remembering the production of mass produced cheap goods has always been resisted by skilled tradespeople. you'd be potentially alienating essentially the westerosi artesan class by doing it, for uncertain return.

its also something developed over decades of change, of trade relations and an increased demand of production, not a few months.

and with the coming winter shutting down internal westerosi trade networks, as well as potentially international ones, I don't see the point.
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>>4755881
>>The Father
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So who's getting the other positions in our prospective band of seven bastards? Edric Storm for the Warrior? It might be too late to call him to King's Landing though, and we have no official reason to. Mya Stone same thing. This band of bastards thing is looking dead in the water guys.
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>>4755992
Ok so improving the posiblities for trade then?
Improving the port. Improving the roads or expanding it. Maybe small scale manufactories? Like for example candles or cloth.
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>>4756009
Both should still be doable. Why wouldn't it be? The war hasn't started yet, if it even will.

its worth remembering though Edric Storm is even younger than Joffrey. If we want a warrior who can fight sometime soon, Mya is a better choice. I think she's the same age as Gendry.

>>4756015
those sound doable but remember improving roads and ports is ridiculously expensive. we'll need to get the good will of powerful people on side if we want to do it without ouraging the kingdom through large taxes.

excessive taxes have started more than one war.
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>>4756024
Hmm. Future plans then.
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>>4756024
>its worth remembering though Edric Storm is even younger than Joffrey
I went and checked just to be sure, he's only a year younger than Joff.
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>>4756024
>Both should still be doable. Why wouldn't it be? The war hasn't started yet, if it even will.
Because unlike Gendry those two are acknowledged bastards of Robert and their current hosts will be wary of the Crown Prince asking for direct threats to his succession to come to him. What reasons do we have for calling them to court when our mother has forbidden it?
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>>4756009
>This band of bastards thing is looking dead in the water guys.
Fucking good.

The idea of calling all of Roberts bastards to KL so everyone could see the family resemblance they shared and we lacked was the dumbest idea in /qst/ history.
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>>4755881
>>The Father
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>>4756036
Mya isn't an acknowledged bastard
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>>4755881
>>The Stranger
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>>4756064
by which I mean everyone 'knows' she's Robert's bastard, but unlike Edric she hasn't been formally recognised as one.

hell based on her interactions with Sansa she might not even know it.
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>>4755881
>>The Stranger
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>>4755881
>The chad
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>>4756009
The idea wasn t a band of bastards to begin with, just people that we can count on and are close to us. So it s better to not have more robert bastards in.


>>4756015
Anything that can be done easily with our own power/resources should be picked. And with us being Prince we shouldn t have problems of resources. Maybe we can ask Tyrion opinions on what to do or choose.
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>>4755881
>>The Father
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>>4755881
>>The Father
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>>4756009
>This band of bastards thing is looking dead in the water guys.

And thats a good thing
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>>4755881
>>None. I'm not on the team, I just run the team like Nick Fury runs the Avengers.
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>>4756009
I thought there was an idea for a team of seven people, each symbolizing a god, and another idea to make a brigade of Bobby Baratheon's bastards.
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>>4755623
>anons aren't psychotic enough to do Joffrey justice.
You mean the same anons who have M.C. making out with his own mother in this very quest?
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>>4756009
>This band of bastards thing is looking dead in the water guys.

And you expected Rome to be built in a day?

>>4756056
>the dumbest idea in /qst/ history

Your ringing endorsement make me want it harder, newfag.
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>>4756056
Fuck off
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>>4756327
I feel like those people are the same ones that went "hurr why don't you make Joff a sociopath and kill everyone, I'm so quirky and smart!" and seethe when we don't go the coom or pseudo-Machiavellian route after the vote had been called hours and hours later.
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>>4756331
Ignore the no-fun people anon, they won't agree with anything that isn't 5D chess even though we're in the start of the story.
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>>4756342
>>4756345
Do you ever get tired of repeating the same thing? Not everyone wants to play a medieval monarch like he's a shonen character. There's nothing machiavellian about it and the plans are hardly complex. Still looking forward to killing off the bastard.
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>>4756362
There they are, where were you guys when we were making write-in decisions earlier? You guys seem to have a bad habit of disappearing when we actually make votes, and come back to seethe about it later. I just wanted to bait you guys back to ask you that, its very strange behavior....
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>>4756362
he just seething because people point out his retardation
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>>4756365
What important decision did I miss? Talking to the soon to be dead bastard? No thanks. Doesn't matter.
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>>4756365
Also,
>it was bait, i was only pretending to be retarded
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>>4756384
The write-in for the start of the day, a genuinely thought you guys would come up with some kind of plan to kill him off or discuss how you actually want to kill Gendry off now that the Cersei window is gone.
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>>4756387
So opinions that disagree with yours is retarded, I see.
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>>4755881
Called?
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>>4756389
I can't be here to wrangle every vote. I have shit to do. I'm surprised that nothing gained support aside from nutgobbling the boring future corpse, but here we are. I guess I'll try to be here for the next wat do.

>>4756395
I've seen plenty of ideas I've disagreed with that weren't retarded. What is retarded is claiming to be baiting people with buzzword posts built on sloppy premises.
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>>4756409
>>4756395
Guys please stop.
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>>4756409
>>4756395
Guys please go on
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>>4756426
>>4756428
Guys please kiss
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>>4755881
>The Father
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>>4755898
>>4756279
None

>>4755902
>>4755932
>>4755997
>>4756062
>>4756200
>>4756272
>>4756439
Father

>>4755909
>>4755942
>>4756066
>>4756094
Stranger


>>4756405
Calling it now
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I need everyone to pray for Elsweyr QM. He's in the hospital right now with COVID and could die at any moment. Press P to pray for his recovery.
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>>4756482
F
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>>4756482
but...You are Elseweyr qm!
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>>4756482
S
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>>4756482
GUESS WHAT BITCH HEHEHEH CORONAVARUS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch6ViIuQpl8
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>>4756485
>>4756487

NO! Your vicious mockery will karmically kill him. Stop, this is no time for shitposting this is a serious medical emergency. The man could die for pete's sake, be serious!
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>>4756492
CORONAVARUS
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>>4756492
Global Saturation
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>>4756485
A
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>>4756499
K
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>>4756500
4
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>>4756500
E
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>>4756517
V
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>>4756492
>The man could die for pete's sake,
Then why the fuck are we praying for Alswoor instead of beating Pete to death before his sake kills him?

Dumbasses
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>>4756519
Ruined. Also if literally who QM had the coof post proofs otherwise its fake news.
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“The Father,” you declare without hesitation, puffing out your chest and standing tall.

Gendry quirks an eyebrow as he can't help but flash a disbelieving smirk at your declaration. “You're a little young to be the father, Your Grace, don't ya think? I'm older than you.”

You sigh. “The Father represents judgment, justice and wisdom,” you explain religion to the lowborn adolescent, “not just age. I'll have to embody those characteristics once I'm King of the Seven Kingdoms and have to rule over everyone in Westeros as if they were my own children. And just as your journey to becoming a smith is not yet complete, neither is mine in becoming a royal father.”

“So are there going to be girls on this team or is some poor sap gonna hafta be the maiden?”

You wave away Gendry's incessant questioning. “We'll cross that bridge once we come to it. For now, focus on your work, as I will mine.”

“Yes, Your Grace,” he accepts with a short bow. Several seconds pass in relatively comfortable silence before the muscular commoner's ice blue eyes suddenly widen into saucers as he clearly spots something behind you overhead which causes him alarm, freezing on the spot.

Turning around to see what just spooked him, you imagine you have a similar reaction to Gendry as you watch two men purposefully approaching your position.

One is an old man with broad shoulders, blue eyes, an aquiline nose and blonde hair gone gray due to age, sporting the sigil of a blue falcon on his doublet and a chain of silver round his neck, wrought into the shape of clasping hands.

The other is a tall, sinewy figure with dark blue eyes, a heavy brow and a fringe of black hair ringing his bald head. A close-cropped beard covers his large jaw and his face is as tight as cured leather. He is dressed plainly.

Lord Jon Arryn of the Vale, Hand of the King and Lord Stannis Baratheon of Dragonstone, Master of Ships respectively.

They're most likely coming here to speak with Gendry. Fuck! You don't think they've seen you yet.

>Go hide. Eavesdrop on their conversation with Gendry.
>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.
>Grab Gendry by the wrist and flee.
>Other (write-in)
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>>4756523
>>Go hide. Eavesdrop on their conversation with Gendry.
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>>4756523
>Grab Gendry by the wrist and flee.
NIGERUNDAIYO, GENDRYYYYYY
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>>4756523
>>Go hide. Eavesdrop on their conversation with Gendry.
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>>4756523
>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.
CHAD
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>>4756523
>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.
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>>4756523
>>4756530
Change to:
>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.
Fuck it, we could wiggle in the Sweetrobin thing too.
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>>4756533
+1
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>>4756523
>>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.

lets stick for our boy
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>>4756523
>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry
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>>4756523
>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.
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>>4756486
Of course! Who would know better than the man himself?

F
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>>4756523
>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.

Best meet them head on. I'll enjoy their shock and apprehension by our personality change and the sheer balls we have at introducing them.

Question is, was it a little bird who sung or a mockingbird?
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>>4756581
Varys wouldn't give a shit yet, in all likelihood this is littlefinger's doing. Almost everything that happened in KL prior to Bobby dying in the original timeline was Baelish.
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>>4756523
>>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.
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>>4756523
>>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.
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>>4756523
>Other (write-in)
Introduce Gendry as Harry and claim we meet him in the past working for someone not toboho mott

You know, lie.
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>>4756523
>>Other (write-in)
Do the most retarded thing possible
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>>4756613
You mean sing "I'm a little bastard"?
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>>4756617
Lets just tell them who gendry is and let them know who we really are what could go wrong?
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>>4756617
The most retarded thing we could do is strip our clothes off and start howling like an ape.
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>>4756628
What about twerking while in our birthday suit and calling Stannis and Jon cuckholds because they don't have any true male heirs?
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Seriously though, why are there so many people dickriding gendry of all fucking people
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>>4756636
Oh god why did you put that image in my head
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>>4756639
Because we are not playing smart jeffery. Not are we playing political schemer in Westeros.
We are playing some (formerly fat neck beard brony) pop culture obsessed loser in Jofferys body.
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>>4756639
Just wait until the waifus get into KL. I can't wait for anons to do mental gymnastics over Margarey and Sansa, and then the Danyfags come to make things even worse.
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>>4756650
Dany is used goods and marg is a power crazy whore
Sansa #1 flawless
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>>4756656
>>4756650
Not yet bros, wait until we actually met them
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>>4756586
How would Littlefinger know we employed Gendry as a smith, let alone his real parentage in less than two days?
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>>4756658
Someone like him would have spies or assassins everywhere. I don't think that Varys would be the only one with "little birds" walking around the Red Keep, Baelish has his own spies probably. I might be remembering wrong, but did Varys ever have a part in the whole Jon finding out about "the seed is strong?"
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>>4756523
>Other (write-in) Turn 360 degrees and walk away.

Imagine all of the things we could be doing if we weren't trying to win the affections of a literal who.
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>>4756662
But you would just be bumping into Gendry... how is coronavarus by the way?
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Elsweyr tongues quads from my anus.
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>>4756666
That really did happen by the way, one of the peaceful protests had tognuing of anuses. Then they looted another store afterwards.
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>>4756660
Eventually, yea. Two days though, when Verys was the one to hide him?

Eh, maybe I'm overthinking it.

>>4756662
Like what, grilling? Your literally trying to imagine doing other things instead of offering ideas or plans mate.

>inb4 Joffrey just wants to grill
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>>4756665
I'm assuming it's ass cancer and not kung flu if this news is from some sort of discord post.
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>>4756671
I want to teleport behind him and cut him down with my valyrian steel dagger which has been folded a thousand times. My plans start with killing the bastard, then the king, then the 3 stooges on the council. Then we can work on ruling.
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>>4756677
>doesn't use meta-knowledge for a master plan

Go away, FElsweyr. No one wants your rimming.
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>>4756677
>which has been folded a thousand times.
Gonna have to stop you right there bud. Valyrian Steel Daggers tm are regulation folded only 780 times for safety reasons. Sorry.
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>>4756686
They were just trying to get some bread to feed their kids anon, let the FElsweyr tongue your anus!
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>>4756523
>>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.
We've weazeled are way out so far
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i love it
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>>4756686
But I'm using meta knowledge to know who absolutely must die for us to get a crack at ruling more than a burned out husk. All of this needs to happen before robert goes north. He should be poisoned at the same time as Jon Arryn.

Baelish Pycelle and Varys should be blindsided and killed by the Hound as soon as the poisoning is revealed.

Lysa Arryn will be made to confess her role. Very believable with her history with Baelish. The best lies are salted with some truth.

Jaime, who is was going to become the Warden of the East anyway, will take stewardship of Robin and the Vale.

There. Something to work on. I'd say more but I don't think planning too far ahead is smart.
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>>4756677
We're going to have to form coalition to prevent the rampant stupidity i guess, vote en bloc against shit like buddying around with gendry
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>>4756721
I think we could have something solid going if a few anons get on board with writing in to kill gendry every time some faggy hug seeking vote comes up.
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>>4756721
>*buttying
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>>4756662
>>4756523
Oh right +1.
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>>4756523
>>Stay and chat with them. Introduce Gendry.
With a side of >>4756636
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>>4756523
>Go hide. Eavesdrop on their conversation with Gendry.
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Maybe have him blacken his face to blackface them into not seeing the resemblance as easily....

Call them racists if they disagree.
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You'll meet them head on, since you know for certain nothing could possibly arise from the subject matter of their conversation to outright damn you.

The two investigators monetarily halt in their tracks as they spot your royal personage, grimaces and scowls forming upon their visages as they see you standing beside the boy they were looking for. Stannis is the first to surge forward again, undaunted after quickly recovering from the surprise of your unexpected presence. Jon Arryn awkwardly regains his composure upon seeing his ally in this endeavor do so faster, following behind.

You treat them both to a smile and a nod as they near. “Lord Hand, Uncle.” You gesture to the shirtless, apron-clad smith's apprentice. “Allow me to introduce my new friend, Gendry. He was an apprentice to the master armorer Tobho Mott when I met him and I've chosen to employ him here at the Red Keep.”

Gendry gulps, fidgeting nervously. He bows deeply towards them. “M'lords.”

Stannis simply glares daggers in the lowborn bastard's direction while the Hand of the King steps forward to take charge of the conversation.

Jon Arryn bows to you. “Forgive us our intrusion, Your Grace. Your uncle, the Master of Laws, spoke of Ser Loras having sparred with a boy matching your friend's description on your nameday during the meeting of our Small Council this morning.” Ahhh, Loras told Renly about meeting a spitting image of his younger self, who then ran his big mouth about it. The dead man walking then turns to regard the commoner. “How are you faring here in the armory, Gendry? Is the smith treating you well?”

He gives a blunt nod. “Yes, m'lord. I'm doing good.”

“Well,” Lord Stannis spits the correction harshly. “You're doing well.”

“Do you enjoy the work?” Jon continues the interrogation, ignoring the grammar nazi on his right.

Gendry glance suspiciously between the faces of the two older men before answering. “Aye, m'lord. Love the craft, I do.”

“And who are your parents?” the old man pointedly inquires. You notice half his teeth are missing.

The sullen boy's expression darkens at that question. “My mother worked in an alehouse and she died when I was little. Never met my father.”

Jon frowns, genuine compassion stitched upon his features. “A pity . . . do you remember her well?”

Gendry grimaces. “She had yellow hair. Sometimes used to sing to me, I remember.”

Jon's glance flits to you for half a second, eyes riveted to your golden curls and piercing emerald eyes. “How is it the two of you became such fast friends, Your Grace?”

>I wanted to get to know my half-brother. That's right Gendry, the King is your father.
>Why do you care, Lord Hand? Should I not befriend smallfolk?
>I needed a friend I could rough house with, Sweetrobin is too frail
>Other (write-in)
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>>4756790
>>I wanted to get to know my half-brother. That's right Gendry, the King is your father.
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>>4756790
>I needed a friend I could rough house with, Sweetrobin is too frail
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>>4756790
>>I wanted to get to know my half-brother. That's right Gendry, the King is your father.
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>>4756790
>Other (write-in)
Express that you can't explain it, but you feel a kinship with Gendry to poison the well a bit
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>>4756790
>>I needed a friend I could rough house with, Sweetrobin is too frail
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>>4756790
>>Why do you care, Lord Hand? Should I not befriend smallfolk?
>>I needed a friend I could rough house with, Sweetrobin is too frail
both of these
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>>4756790
>I wanted to get to know my half-brother. That's right Gendry, the King is your father.

Out of pure morbid curiousity, cus fuck it
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>>4756812
+1
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>>4756812
Sure. I'll back it. Still killing him.
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>>4756812
>>4756790
+1
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>>4756790
>>>Why do you care, Lord Hand? Should I not befriend smallfolk?
>>>I needed a friend I could rough house with, Sweetrobin is too frail
Maybe Jon should worry about infidelity in his own household before bothering with Lions and Stags
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>>4756790
>>I needed a friend I could rough house with, Sweetrobin is too frail
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>>4756790
>Why do you care, Lord Hand? Should I not befriend smallfolk?
>I needed a friend I could rough house with, Sweetrobin is too frail
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>>4756812
+1
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>>4756812
Fuck it, I'll support this too.
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>>4756790
>>Why do you care, Lord Hand? Should I not befriend smallfolk?
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>>4756790
>I'm going to murder him
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>>4756812
+1 hahahaha
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>>4756790
>Why do you care, Lord Hand? Should I not befriend smallfolk?
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>>4756812
Yeah this
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>>4756812
+1 YEE
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>>4756790
>Why do you care, Lord Hand? Should I not befriend smallfolk?
Also
>He is a very promising craftsman, and will make an excellent smith before long. I thought I'd snap him up for the royal smithy before someone else did.
>>
Did anyone ever archive the 1st thread? I only see the 'prequel' in suptg
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>>4756981
I just gave it a shot, champ. Let me know if I did it right.
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>>4756812
>>4756820
+1

>>4756716
Now that is a plan of action. Question is, will the other anons go for it?
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>>4756482
p
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>>4756994
...you completely fucked it anon.
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>>4756716
+1 desu
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>>4757029
Good lord, I just checked it.
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>>4756790
>>Why do you care, Lord Hand? Should I not befriend smallfolk?
Time to be bitchy. Y'know highborn 12 yrs old, prince, inheritor to the throne... that stuff.
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>>4756994
What the fuck my guts hurt now. Goddamn.
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>>4756994
>>4757029
OHNONONONO HAHAHAHAHA
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>>4756994
You . . . are an absolute legend and my favorite fucking poster now.

You and you alone now have one free Fate Point to spend whenever you'd like, anon.
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>>4757075
oh the chaos
the highly erect chaos
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>>4757075
I demand the fate point to be used for a coom vote, like sticking our tongue into Cersei's mouth in front of the entire court with all of the nobles attending and watching in sheer horror and disgust.
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>>4757099
you're not the original guy
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>>4757102
Worth a try uwu
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>>4757075
Can I use it to have Gendry impaled by a falling wall mounted weapon in the armory the second whatever response that wins the vote gets said? I know he's not really that important. It's about sending a message.
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>>4757106
stone cold af m'lord
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>>4757075
>fate point
>in a quest without rolling
Intriguing... Is it a "my vote wins" button?
>>4757099
>mouth
Funny way to spell armpit.
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>>4757106
Imagine being such a loser that instead of using the fate point for something hilarious you use it to "prove a point". You could have used it to make Stannis trip into a cowpie on the way out of the city or give Tyrion a growth spurt for three inches.

But no, let's just murder some poor bastard. Literally.

RIP
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>>4757114
Eh if that's what it will take for the murder anons to finally stop obsessing over him then so be it. I just want one thread without anons planning the death of the poor kid with every vote.
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>>4756803
>>4756811
>>4756823

I wanted to get to know my half-brother. That's right Gendry, the King is your father.

>>4756806
>>4756814
>>4756820
>>4756850
>>4756862
>>4756872
>>4757017

I needed a friend I could rough house with, Sweetrobin is too frail

>>4756820
>>4756850
>>4756872
>>4756919
>>4756948
>>4756962
>>4757017
>>4757038

Why do you care

>>4756812
>>4756825
>>4756844
>>4756848
>>4756893
>>4756906
>>4756939
>>4756950
>>4756953
>>4757017
feel a kinship with Gendry

>>4757106
If that's truly what you wish to spend it on you can.
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>>4757114
Neither of those sound very funny to me. This post, however, got a giggle out of me.

Who knows? It might get veto'd. My alternative is to make his first truborn heir a dwarf.
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>>4757106
Absolutely based I fully support this
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>>4757121
What about Edric Storm senpai?
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>>4757121
>>4757120
The power is yours sire.
USE IT AND LET THE SALT RIVER BORNE
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>>4757106
If it’ll get you fags to stop whining about him then so be it
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>>4757121
>My alternative is to make his first truborn heir a dwarf.
Who do you mean? Joff? Or Gendry?
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>>4757106
based
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>inb4 gendry rolls his death saves and survives his impromptu karmic kill session
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>>4757120
Yeah, I'm fine with using it to kill Gendry in a freak accident in front of the Hand and Stannis. Worth it for their reactions alone. Thanks for clarifying.

>>4757133
Definitely Joff. Gendry's days were always numbered.
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>>4757135
Hey if we have to roll...
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>>4757139
If we have to roll what'll happen is he survives but he's crippled forever. The luck that pleases no one.
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>>4757135
Yeah let's roll for freak accident, it'd be hilarious if Gendry survives falling into spikes.
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>>4757138
HIS SIRE HAS SPOKEN
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>>4757135
>>4757145
You kniggas aren't the QM and your boy is about to get got.
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>>4757149
I don't give a fuck about Gendry or anyone else. I exist to shitpost, nothing more and certainly nothing less. I haven't even voted once. Fear my sperglord powerlevel.
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>>4757149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI7kx6DYQ8M
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>>4757149
>inb4 Melissandre or Night King raises him to take revenge
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Don't forget the first thread and this one still need archiving, hmm....
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>>4757106
Be careful what you wish for. When you deny others a chance at fun, all you'll get is autism in return.
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>>4757159
>Headpat
>Headpat
>Headpat

Yeah, I'm sure this will make things more autistic.
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>>4757162
Hey, if that's your thing man, don't say I didn't warn you.
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>>4757159
Its not like Robert has other bastards, especially those in KL that Varys or Baelish could point to if Stannis/Jon got curious right?
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i don't get headpats. like, where does that shit happen, in japan?
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>>4757162
Just you fucking watch
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>>4757167
The man wanted to send a message, instead of using it productively. Message received. Let the Tism wars begin.
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>>4757167
No but this works out in a way where it looks like we figured out he was a bastard and arranged an accidental death for him in the red keep right in front of the bozo clans. Like, this is a net positive. Also how dare you defy m'lord his eminence the bastard slayer.
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>>4757162
Just wait till Sansa and Margarey are in KL anon, it will get far, far worse. And no fate point will help you keep anons from wanting non-existant pussy.
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>>4757175
I don't see it that way, but hey, it's your head cannon.

>>4757176
If we get that far.
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>>4757182
>Fishwolf pussy
Holy
Fucking
YUCK

Where’s the flower pussy
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>>4757185
>mmhhhh BLACKED whores
Mutt please go
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I liked the Desmera Redwyne idea last thread. All the perks of the Tyrells with less AIDS.
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>>4757159
Where have you even been
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>>4757176
>Margarey

The only choice, the norf is a lost cause. Simple as.
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>>4757200
I've been here since the beginning. I'll make sure to be here when it ends as well.
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>>4757193
what
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>>4757201
norf is where da real war is
>luve me norf
>luve me wall
>luv me gingers
simple as
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>>4757207
https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Blue_Bard
>he names Ser Osney Kettleblack, Ser Tallad the Tall, Ser Lambert Turnberry, Jalabhar Xho, Hugh Clifton, Ser Mark Mullendore, Ser Bayard Norcross, and Hamish the Harper as Margaery's lovers
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>>4757176
Margarey is the only way we should keep eye out for the queen of thrones but She's still easier than dealing with sansa. Plus she's way more fuckable than some raggedy ann muh impowerment motherfucker
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>>4757212
Obvious lies

>>4757217
Queen of thornes only killed joffers because he was an incompetent psychopath
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>>4757217
>Marry Sansa
>She is crazy in love at first sight and steeped in northern honor and power
>Marry Marg
>Pic related
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>>4757212
I’m not flower lover but
>names obtained under torture
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>>4757223
I just want a redhead gf is it too much to ask for?
>>4757220
The crazy old bat will make up any excuse to get weak willed Tommen instead of strong man Joff
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>>4757220
You assuming the incompetent psychopath bit changed.
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Gonna be a bit before next update. Apologies for the slow updates, but that's probably the way this quest is going to roll.
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>>4757229
Np mate.
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>>4757225
Lady Olenna. All I ask for in life is to repeatedaltn impregnation your granddaughter and always care for her

How’s that
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>>4757225
Desmera Redwyne is a redhead that doesn't smell like wet wolf.
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>>4757232
The woman is a stone cold killer, just as deadly as Tywin but has no real interest in keeping us alive.
Just wants to get a throne for her granddaughter.

One Tommen can get too.
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>>4757237
There is a way to fix that you know.
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>>4757237
She’s a retarded garden

As long as joff plants fertile seeds in her fertile garden she will keep us around
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>>4757237
What's so hard about betrothing Tommen to someone like Shireen?
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>>4757239
+1, but only if it's just as funny on Gendry soon to be ass blow out.
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>>4757239
>There is a way to fix that you know.
By the Seven you're right. We need to fuck Tommen. Non virgins can't produce heirs, right?

That's what mommy told me.
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>>4757244
It wouldn't be as funny, but it would be just as autistic.

>>4757243
You assuming Shireen has anything we would want, incest reputation besides.
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>>4757249
Making your younger brother the effective Prince of Dragonstone in a nod to the old Targaryen loyalists and preventing him from being used as a pawn by anyone who'd care to seems like a fairly win-win scenario to me.
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>>4757254
I'll support you, if only to show you how wrong you are.
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>>4757254
It'd be a good match too, they're of similar temperaments. I'd have used that FP to plant that idea in Stannis's head, he's the one it'll be hardest to convince.
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>>4756716
If we end up going ahead with this plan, then Myrcella would unironically be a good match for Sweetrobin.
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>>4757217
>>4757220
>>4757221
>>4757201
Why not just break the script and marry some Bar maid from bum fuck no where
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>>4757266
I'll support this as well.
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>>4757273
>the people's king

I like the sound of that.
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>>4757266
>marrying our sweet little sister to a epileptic crack bastard
Awful taste, anon.
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>>4757290
It would essentially hand us the Vale though.
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>>4757290
With Jaime as her guadian as Warden of the East? Seems cozy enough to me. He'll have a few years to either die or become a man. If he dies, she's already settled in and can marry Harry or perhaps a Royce if anons want to risk muddying things. Either way, she's supposed to be smart. She will end up ruling in the absence of a strong husband.
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>>4757290
Doesn't matter anyway. Myrcella is going to end up taking a long walk down a short lifespan here in a minute. Poor thing.
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>>4757295
>>4757297
Why not just marry her to Harry and expose the little shit as the bastard he is? Exposing Robert's parentage has been one of the few consistent goals this quest.
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>>4757309
Why not have both worlds? I'm sure our SI would find a way to have both happen.
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>>4757309
Not a bad call, but 'arry isn't quite so pliable I don't think. Maybe we can invite him to court and see though?
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>>4757309
Sure, I guess. I've seen worse ideas. It does seem like a heavy-handed power move to depose the Lord Paramount of the Vale out of the blue on questionable evidence and then plant Myrcella as the new leader, though. Granted, this is basically what the Baratheon brothers try to do to us anyway. Giving Robin a shot first feels cleaner, but I'm not overly attached to it being him, just that Myrcella rules.
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>>4757312
>Why not have both worlds?
What other "world" is there besides the loyalty of the Vale? Sweetrobin gets us jack.
>>4757316
Harry is just a pretty face, really. Petyr's book plan is to marry Sansa to him so he can rule the North, Vale, and Riverlands through her.
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>>4757321
>Harry is just a pretty face, really. Petyr's book plan is to marry Sansa to him so he can rule the North, Vale, and Riverlands through her.

Sure, but we're not lil finga
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>>4757309
I guess it wouldn't be unrealistic to have Lysa confess to Robin's parentage if we are already going to have her confessing to being in league with Baelish for the poisoning here.
>>4756716
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>>4757324
Good thing we're not overreaching for two other kingdoms with one marriage then.
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>>4757324
We will be when he's dead.
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>>4757309
Harry's a man slut who would break out imouto heart
>>4757273
Why would we not get engaged to Sansa. Our dad wants it and there is no reason not too.
>>4757243
Well they are cousins
>>4757240
You're retarded garden
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>>4757339
Dad will be dead in a fortnight, so we won't have to worry about his opinion.
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>>4757339
>Dad wants it

If he lives that long. We're not going north, anon. It's cold up there.

>Well they are cousins

Anon, I...
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Danny sex slave when?
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>>4757343
You wanna tell the world they ain't cousins?
>>4757342
I don't want daddy to die
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>>4757348
Our grandparents were openly cousins. That shit is normal.
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>>4757343
Hey man, it's a nod to those Targaryen loyalists. Don't pussy out now.

>>4757348
I sympathize, anon.
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>>4757348
Knigga, Tywin married his first cousin. Our future waifu Desmera is Olenna Tyrell's niece and granddaughter. I could go on. That shit doesn't matter here. Cousins are for fucking.
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I think will be great if we marry Sansa because she falls in love at first sight and it would make all the show-watchers SEETHE
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>>4757348
Don't worry, papa will survive. Be a bit harder for him to wipe his ass later but he'll survive.
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>>4757363
Sansa is the Hounds lady u shitter
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>>4757366
Why you gotta shaft Sandor with such a shitty waifu?
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>>4757366
music for my ears
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>>4757345
Should have asked Tywin to do it when he was here. It might be too late now. Even if we do get to her she'll have been DOTHRAKI'D by Khal Drogo.
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>>4757364
You know, the real power move would have been giving daddy dearest a heart attack. Oh well.
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>>4757373
What could Tywin have done to bring Dany here? Wouldn't that be something Varys or Doran would know more about?
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>>4757373
Just send the good ol' Kingsguard to grab her. Easy peasy.
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>>4757374
Holy fuck this would have been genius. Killing Robert when Stannis and Jon Arryn don't have proof would have forced the confrontation now. Even Jon Arryn might have desisted from calling Joffrey out to ensure a smooth transition because they don't have a watertight case. Goddamn. Is there still time to change the Fate point spend?
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>>4757373
Big things come in small packages Anon
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>>4757377
Tywin is the only one with the resources to do this and also be willing to do it as a favor to us. We know the exact location of the target (Illyrio's manse in Pentos) and the time (as soon as the Dothraki arrive). Tywin could have sent a couple hundred mercs to do it discretely.

>>4757378
We should attend the next Small Council meeting, drag our dad in there, and suggest this.
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>>4757382
I won't change my spend. You all need to start voting for shit past headpats and gay little superhero teams or you deserve everything you get.
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>>4757382
Nope.

(^:<
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>>4757382
Anon made it clear that he had no intention of using his fate point with any intelligence.
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Pick your waifu now or forever hold your peace.
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>>4757392
Nah man, you'll get your just deserts. I just wanted to grill.
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>>4757351
>>4757354
Well a good reform would be to cut down on inbreeding, and we can trailblaze that now yes sir we can
>>4757366
Dogs get scraps, like Marg the Barge
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>>4757395
>No Desmera Redwyne

Ahem. Vetoed.
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>>4757395
SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA SANSA
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>>4757395
SANSA<3
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>>4757400
you had the opportunity to ensure that and you blew it, pipe down with your nonoption
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>>4757395
Sansa fags gtfo

Give me that sweet incest child
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>>4757392
>Not using your Fate point to fuck Olenna
ISHYGDDT

>>4757395
I'm normally a Margaeryfag but Dany looks cute as FUCK here. Something in me just wants to give her a bear hug and tell her it's going to be alright. Seriously, we need to send Barristan to kidnap Dany and Viserys asap.
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>>4757395
We'll be a dragonrider, one way or another.
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>>4757395
red hair>brown hair
white hair is best hair but being a massive whore disqualifies her (she fucked Euron, Marwyn, and Gerion Lannister all in one night)
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danny already been runied by drogo at this point right?
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>>4757408
Some things need to play out, anon. Also,

>nonoption

Same age as Marg but from a richer family with a larger navy for a Final Solution to the Ironborn Question. Also a redhead for Sansafags. The other options are shit in comparison.
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>>4757418
Dany get DOTHRAKIED on the ride north. So maybe 1-2 weeks out.
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>>4757418
No, that happens when Daddy goes to Winterfell.

>>4757420
Face it mate, you had your chance. Literally held it in the palm of your hand. And you fucked it like you did with the archiving.
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>>4757420
>my option has reason on its side, surely it will gain the support needed to win
someone hasn’t been paying attention
lack of mainstream popularity makes her a nonoption
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>>4757418
There still might be a chance if we send Barristan like tomorrow, but it will be difficult to pull off.
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>>4757428
Your assuming he doesn't fortify the elections anon.
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I had a revelation. In order to become the most beloved king of all time

it is so simple all we have to do is INVENT THE CORNDOG

The future foods, today. That's what I say.
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>>4757427
>>4757428
So be it. A small sacrifice to btfo noblebright fags.
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>>4757434
silly me, how could I forget?
>>4757437
based
my full support behind you
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>>4757441
the setting we’re playing in would’ve done that itself
behold, mankind’s inability to turn down immediate gratification
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>>4757441
Sure mate. Stick to your head canon.
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>>4757451
>*stick your head into a cannon
FTFY
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>>4757434
Wouldn't be surprised if samefagging happens when its time to pick who Joff wants to betroth. At least we're not stuck with the adopted rape survivor like the fatefags.
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>>4757453
Although they should, cannons don't exist in asoiaf. So stick your head into a trebuchet.
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>>4757453
Anon, we went over this- there are no cannons in Westeros. We'll have to attach it to a trebuchet.
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>>4757459
>>4757461
Great minds really do think alike.
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>>4757457
Don't rule it out yet. The QM is using Fate points after all.
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>>4757395
Smugfu is the only choice.
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>>4757420
>Same age as Marg but from a richer family with a larger navy

Who are sworn to marges famalam you dingaling
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marg a thot worst girl at least danny has dragons
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>>4757466
That's half the point if you read the idea from last thread. It makes sense. Desmera's is Paxter Redwyne. He and Mace Tyrell are total butt buddies in the books and like seconding each other's plans. Make Mace jealous of him being the King's father in law and make Paxter feel like he can go over Mace's head and now you have a less unified political front when dealing with the Reach. Or you know, we can just marry a wolf fucker from lands that are the first to need defending from the Ironborn and Others, or go with the smoothbrain option and marry Marg so that the council turns into a Lannister vs Tyrell pissing contest.
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>>4757465
They're all smug though. Also too dumb to realize they shouldn't be.
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What I'm getting here is that Dany sex slave is the only sensible option.
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>>4757474
Smirkfu then if you prefer
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Is trick alive?
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>tfw they all smirk as well
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>>4757473
Or y'know we get all of the reach in our pocket.

Speaking of though, we should make an effort to familiarize ourself with local crowlander houses, and perhaps even some neighboring stormlanders and rivermen, improving relations and such.
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>>4757503
There is only one smirkfu
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>>4757509
>Or y'know we get all of the reach in our pocket.

How? Name one thing the Reach needs from any other realm aside from the crown you want to hand their most powerful house. They will have their own agenda just as they did in the books and the only check on them will be dumping more Lannisters on the council who may be better placed elsewhere. Unless we marry the redhead and cause internal rivalries to come out.
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>>4757516
Oh the one with the fucked up face, alright.

Why?
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>>4757418
We can still save here, right Anon?!

Silver hair sex slave when?
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>>4757516
?
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>>4757517
Dragonglass. When the Ice men come, they'll be fucked without it.
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>>4757529
How to beat icemangs

>don't let them get dragons
>give the wall some bois
>give the wallbois some dracoglaze

Eziest Peezy to ever exist.
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>>4757534
Carpet bomb the ice peepo with Wildfyre.
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>>4757517
>Name one thing the Reach needs from any other realm

Someone to buy their food
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>>4757541
ay peepo is a stron word. They ain't peepo til they pay they taxes
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>>4757547
It's food, dumbass. It's going to get bought either way. Great plan.
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>>4757395
>THOT
>THOTy hint
>bint (slag IRL)
What a fucking choice.
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>>4757551
You asked a dumbass question so i gave a dumbass answer
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>>4757551
i don’t think you get to mock any plan, mr. fate point waster
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>>4757559
I'm mean, he got the Fate point by fucking up. Do you really expect competence from such a tripfag?
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>>4757564
Uh, do you expect competence from anyone here?

Aside from professional shitposters, of course.
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>>4757567
Not really. Didn't expect Fate points to be involved though, that's for god damn sure.
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>>4757559
He's the same guy who has been autistically obsessed about killing one unimportant character for two days straight now. Expecting anything of substance from a person like that is unrealistic. Doesn't Robert have plethora of bastards in just King's Landing alone?
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>>4757557
Still waiting on an answer. I'd prefer it served above room temperature if you please.

>>4757559
>say I will get Gendry killed multiple times over several days
>say it is inevitable
>follow through
>y-you WASTED the fate point that only you have managed to get!

Okay, anon.

>>4757564
Nobody tell him.
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>>4757574
Your a duck
But I like the rat picture
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>>4757571
>implying Bobby B hasn't been using his hammer in every whorehouse in King's Landing

>>4757574
It wasn't funny switching both quests' archives lad, only retarded.
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>>4757574
if I say I’m going to light a grand on fire, following through doesn’t mean I didn’t waste it
it means I’m an even bigger retard for not realizing how stupid it was even after repeating it ad nauseam
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>>4757574
>caring about killing an insignificant character via bullshitting fate

Truely no self awareness found here.
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>>4757587
It sure would be a shame if after Gendry died we went to get Edric Storm, or better yet another male bastard of Bobby from Kings Landing? Now wouldn't that just be such a shame!
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>>4757589
>tfw you kill one bastard "to show them whatfor" and then three more bastards show up
>and they all want to be friends
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>>4755158
Lol. This one stung a bit, didn't it?
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>>4757589
Truely, such a tragedy! Oh, the humanity!
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>>4757591
Exactly, spite anons always lose in the end.
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>>4757593
I don't care, Gendry is dead. But that doesn't mean that another bastard won't take his place.
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>>4757596
M'lord may have picked a short term strategy, but the war can only be lost once!
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>>4757591
They'll all die
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>>4757601
Everyone dies, anon. Spoiler alert.
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>>4757601
We get vored by the Night King and become a Fate character, the End. There, I saved you several threads and the waifuwars.
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>>4757593
Funnily enough, that isn't what galls me. What really gets me is the farce you pulled to kill him. If he died by QM's narrative twist, so be it. If anons voted him dead, oh well. Fucking with the archives, being rewarded for such retardation, and wasting your narrative freebie on an 'insignificant' character? Lol.

>>4757606
Just wait for the raped waifu, anon.
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>>4757599
I don't care at all about that if it wasn't obvious from my lack of response the first 5 times you repeated this. Robert will be dead soon, before he involves Ned in everything. No one cares what Stannis thinks besides Stannis. The bastard plot was barely relevant, as I noted when I signed your butt buddy's death warrant. I just thought the Gendry parts were a gay waste of quest time and acted accordingly.
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>>4757606
>>4757611
The salt from these two lads! Whew.
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>>4757612
If you didn't care, why waste a freebie?

2nd question, why do you think we'll follow your plan to kill ol' Bobby B? When I said you wasted your shot at narrative significance, I did mean killing the king before he leaves for Winterfell.
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>>4757612
So if you did it to get rid of the "waste of time" you probably have a brain the size of a peanut. Because anons now will waste time on something even more gay and time sinky.

Your foresight is monumental and your IQ immense. I am in awe of the absolute gigantism your brain is suffering from o great one.

kek retard, do more stupid shit I love it
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>>4757612
>i can’t comprehend the concept of “collaborative storytelling” or “subjectivity”
saved you some words there, anon
no no, you don’t have thank me
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>>4757613
I prithee m'lord drink a zealous grant of water, to drown out the tears.
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>>4757621
To be frank, I don't know if this is samefagging or legit. If legit, I applaud your shitposting. If samefagging, pathetic.
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>>4757614
Getting the satisfaction of following through on killing him was hardly a waste to me, anon. The four straight hours of salt mining sealed it for me.

As I said before, you lads need to earn your successes and stick to plans baked above room temperature. I disliked the idea of spending a Fate Point to force something significant past the carebearing when the players thusfar haven't made enough of an effort to do something not retarded. So, I took the toy away.
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>>4757624
That it would be, that it would be...
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>>4757617
Yeah, his explanation for wasting a fate point as "I don't actually really care about Memedry, he's boring so I need to kill him" is clearly nonsense, he could just admit that it was just to spite anons and it would at least make more sense than obsessing over killing someone he claims to not care about.
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>>4757630
As we say in the biz, secret seether
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I leave for a couple of days and come back to find we’ve been over sleeping!
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>>4757627
Tl:dr - It was for spite. You can thank me later.
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>>4757635
>this niggas expects me to function on a single hour of sleep

Businessmen were a mistake.
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It's likely that you've all gotten TRICKed with the "fate points" in a diceless quest.
stay mad
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>>4757639
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>>4757627
>implying anon won’t be more retarded now that you can’t do anything about it
fascinating theory, first day here?
>>4757640
now THAT would be funny
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>>4757647
THIS NIGGAS EXPECTS ME TO STAY IN BED FOR TWO MORE HOURS?

What a lazy cunt.

No wonder he froze his balls off in Russia.
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>>4757627
What plan do you mean we stick to? I'm curious as to what that plan was, considering we just started two days ago in quest.

Also, it's funny you think I care enough about the SI beyond the surface level. I just wanted to grill figuratively, but that can easily translate to fucking around narratively.
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>>4757647
>6 hours
no wonder he was a manlet
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>>4757640
Pfft I hope QM would be cruel enough to do something like that, he's been too nice of recent.
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>>4757651
Might I suggest inventing barbeque ribs? The first proper Texan smokehouse in Westeros.
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>>4757656
I wonder what bbq medium rare dragon tastes like.
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>>4757654
He wasn't a manlet and he actually slept less than 6 hours much of the time - around 4.
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>>4757655
You already tried begging to avert this with dice, anon. This is getting sad.
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>>4757660
I too wonder what dragon tastes like. That's why I'm a danyfag.
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>>4757656
Now that, I will support.

>turn that smithy into a smokehouse Nott, we're going to grill the shit out of those smelters
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>>4757664
We get it, Memedry die. We can joke about things, unless that isn't 5D chess enough for ya?
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>>4757660
Tough as tree bark but nutritious as astronaut food tubes. Tastes like boiled goose and smells like toasted dog. Filling as the richest of chocolate cakes. A wonderful meal for a family of fifty six.


>>4757667
Real shit I'd be hyped if people decided to start a cookery using only the barest hint of knowledge of food from self insertyboi. It'd be great. The highs and lows of an uninitiated cook in the ancient world. Truly blessed.
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>>4757672
Wonder if the meat gives magical powers too, I was always curious why the fatman only gave magic to fire cultists and snow peepo.
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>>4755777
Okay but memes aside, we should probably maintain as good of a relationship as we can with Cersei. If we do she can be 100% in our corner.
>>4756327
That's coomer degeneracy, not psychotic. Psychotic would be things like torturing people, shit that has no purpose but to sate an extreme sadistic streak (which anons don't have).
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>>4757672
>use rat meat to make rat burgers
>make a killing due to cheap excessive supply

Lads, I think we found our moneymaker! Littlefinger btfu.
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>>4757681
This but unironically
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>>4757680
Bruh we frenched Cersei in the bathtub in our birthday suit. There's no going back from that, and you know that incestanons will jump straight on that when there's a chance.
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>>4757685
Yeah, and I'm mad as fuck they did that.
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>>4757681
At least it isn't whatever's in the soup from fleabottom.
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>>4757675
Only one way to find out. We hunt for Dany, for her "children's" meat.

>>4757681
>tfw we make it taste decent through a combination of strong herbs and spices and a fuckton of onions
We McDonalds nao

>>4757680
Playing the long game are ya? I respect that.
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>>4757685
I just want to make a dwarf baby with her. We can stop after that. Pinky promise.
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>>4757688
I'm not surprised, considering the QM gave them the option and the opportunity to do it.
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>>4757694
Still waiting for dat answer mate.

Also, Tyrion getting blamed for it definitely gave me a chuckle.
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>>4757697
I wonder if Tyrion is infertile considering he never impregnated a whore he slept with.
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>>4757698
You believe Lanna is Gerion's?
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>>4757698
>can never sire an heir to inherit
>we give it to our dwarf baby
>people think it's Tyrion's

Ultimate kek.
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>>4757698
Being genetically compromised may increase the chances of silly swimmers. And he is a dwarf so.
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>>4757663
1.68m is deffinitelly manlet territory bro
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Bros.... Is it too much to want to a sex slave Dany?
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>>4757395
Preferably not the one who went full Bomber Harris on Kings Landing because her nephew wouldn't plunge her clunge for her.
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>>4757707
I'll vote Joffrey goes there himself to nab her, all you got to do is shut up about it then make it an option next time the vote comes up.
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>>4757707
Sex is temporary

the knowledge of the flavor of dragon flesh is eternal
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>>4757709
Tag along with Barristan? We can practice a little on the ship journey it takes there. As far as I remember some of Illyrio's guards were fat and out of practice.
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>>4757715
Why not? Yolo.
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>>4757710
That's why we want her. For that gud pussah.
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>>4757695
I honestly wish he would cut down on some of the degen shit. At the very least don't make shit like that a preset option. Degeneracy is best if it starts mild and then escalates eventually.
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>>4757720
Dragons aren't cats though. I don't even remember seeing any cats in Essos either.
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>>4757722
Who knows, maybe he'll listen for future choices.
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>>4757729
With knowledge gained from a certain island quest I must say you require significant active-agency push to achieve that. Meaning a concerted anti-degenarcy player majority over a large amount of choices going forward. Luck be with you.

Meanwhile, I'll be planning on how to get a certain character pissed on by dragons while reamining on contract.
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>>4757732
So what your proposing is the Federal Bureau of Anti-Coomergang?
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>>4757734
It depends upon the opinion of my lord His Eminance the Bastard Slayer, good sir. For this thread.
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>>4757737
Asking for permission is the realm of whores. Let us be as kings.

Or I dunno if that's too melodramatic "just do it bitch".
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>>4757395
>>4757395
No one bringing up bestgirl Myrcella
Guys, what are you doing? She's already blushing from the headpats, she's just waiting for us to take the next step.
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>>4757740
Because she's too good for you, faggot.

<3
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>this whole thread
Why did I expect anything different from a Trick quest
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>>4757752
Probably selective memory loss to save you from mental trauma. Surprisingly common.
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You recoil at his question, forcing a frown of slight indignation onto your face. “Why do you care, Lord Hand? Should I not befriend the small folk?”

Jon Arryn vehemently shakes his head, stunned somewhat by your defensiveness. “No, Your Grace, I was simply curious. Under most circumstances, it is undoubtedly a good thing for a noble to form personal bonds with his subjects, but it's also a rare event for the Crown Prince of the Seven Kingdoms and a common smith's apprentice to meet and befriend one another.”

“Well . . . I can't quite explain it,” you lie, choosing your words carefully in your head, “but I feel a kinship with Gendry.”

Jon gulps and the Baratheon bastard shoots you a scrutinizing stare. “You do?” the elderly Arryn asks anxiously.

You nod. “Yes – a bond that transcends our disparate stations. Mayhaps you'd call it destiny.”

Stannis scoffs. “Mayhaps I'd call it fraternity,” he grumbles under his breath.

“And I needed a friend I could play more roughly with,” you addend. “Sweet Robin is far too frail.”

Jon Arryn grimaces as you bring up his son. “The shaking sickness greatly limits what young Robert is able to do compared to other boys his age.”

Before anything further can be said in this exchange, a nearby short sword mounted to the wall of the armory suddenly falls from where it hangs, the fastenings holding it in place shattering, as if by fate.

The bladed implement falls tip first directly onto Gendry's foot resting flush against the castle wall with the force of gravity behind it, piercing through the boot he wears and impaling the flesh within. The crashing noise of the fallen weapon and the ensuing yowl of pain Gendry makes causes all of you to startle, including some of the other apprentices in the immediate vicinity.

“By the gods!” Jon exclaims empathetically as the wounded teenager leans himself against the wall, gritting his teeth. “Someone, quickly, fetch a maester.”

Gendry reaches for the sword's hilt to pull it out, but is halted by Stannis rushing forward, gripping his bastard nephew's wrist. “Leave it in,” the Master of Ships orders simply. “Wait for the healer to get here.”

You take a few steps backward, dumbfounded by the unforeseen freak accident, watching as Jon sends off one of his household guard to fetch the maester for House Arryn and Stannis holds Gendry steady, as well as the castle-forged steel sticking out of the top of his foot.

The topic of conversation now fully dead and buried under the grim reality of what has just occurred, the rest of what happens afterward seems like a blur in your memory.
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A thin man with little hair and a long skinny neck wearing a maester's chain arrives to tend to Gendry's impalement. The blade is removed as well as his boot, blood gushing from the wound and pooling around his foot. A bandage is wrapped round it and a healing poultice of some sort is applied. Gendry grunts and growls in enunciation of his pain all the while. Eventually, several of the Hand of the King's household guard pick the large, burly boy off his feet by the armpits so as not to aggravate the injury and carry him away to be placed in a bed somewhere far from this forge so he can recuperate. Jon Arryn accompanies the lowborn bastard to wherever he's being hauled off to while Stannis Baratheon simply regards you with one last shrewd, discerning and judgmental stare before striding from your presence as well.

It seems Gendry's going to be out of commission for some while and the subject of his heritage and presence in the Red Keep has been tabled for now – likely to be ignored by all parties involved until Jon Arryn's untimely demise is a little over a week and a half now.

You've got roughly twelve days left before that kind, compassionate man is completely out of the picture.

>What next? (write-in)
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Right in the fuckin foot god damn.
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>agonizing foot infection death
Too cruel a fate
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>>4757774
>Slip a book on the experimental medical uses of bread mold onto Coleman's desk
>Ask Jon about why he wanted to talk to Gendry
Time to help discover a medical miracle. And stop Baelish too, I guess.
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The mad man actually did it.
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>>4757732
>With knowledge gained from a certain island quest

Lost Island Quest wasn't supposed to be coomer shit. I just couldn't say no to the players insisting upon having two gfs. I was weak, forgive me anon.
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>>4757792
I hereby command you to put your foot down here, coward.
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>>4757774
>What next? (write-in)
>Focus on our martial training: train twice as hard, read history and strategy, discuss war with veterans, etc...
There isn't really much left to do before canon starts
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>>4757774

this >>4757804

and also visit Gendry every day, make sure the foot recovers with what we know about modern hygiene

also have morning briefings with Tyrion on the sanitation project
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>>4757774
Meet with a smith to make letter blocks for adjustable block printing process
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>>4757815
jesus christ you niggaz are almost as bad as the fucking "guns" faggots.

Shut the fuck up with that printing press shit, you fucking nerd
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>>4757774
>>What next? (write-in)
>tell Bobby B you saw Lysa and Baelish kissing, and that you overheard them say SweetRobin is Baelish’s son
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>>4757817
Why don't you want people to read bro? What else are eyes for? You're holding the people back maaaaaaaaaan
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>>4757774
>Organise for Danny to be abducted and secretly brought back from across the Narrow Sea

We can still saved her from the ass raping
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>>4757834
Shit dude in the time it would take to sail there she'd have already been ridden by at least five horses.

Just take the damn eggs from the crazy bint and be done with it.
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>>4757834
It’s too late brother
She must die
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Talk to Varys about Daenerys and Viserys, ask about their status. Then organize a Small Council meeting and send Barristan to kidnap them on the next ship heading to Pentos, saying something like he saved a kingdom before, it's time to save the kingdom again. Then sneak aboard that ship, going with Barristan on plan Capture Dany.

I'm committed to plan Dany and anons who said they'd support it if it came to a vote should vote alongside me.
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>>4757882
this is five different shades of fucking retarded
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>>4757834
+1, combine it with >>4757882

>>4757851
>>4757856
There's still time! Robert is on his way back from Winterfell when he finally learns of the wedding between Dany and Khal Drogo. That's many many months away from now. Even after calculating the delay in information reaching him, there is still time.
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Robert isn't going to flex. He wants Dany dead, like all the Targaryens. He was happy when Gregor smashed in those small children, he isn't going to change to abducting Dany because his Joff pops a boner thinking about her.

it would take something like fate point fag for a change in Robert's thinking to make sense
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>>4757817
The fuck is the point of being from earth if not to use what we know.
What wanna introduce 2000 years of sheep fucking tradition from wales?
Or maybe we could spend our time remaking anime series using puppet shows.
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>>4757898
lol who cares
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>>4757896
Even in canon, he changes his mind about killing Dany after the boar incident. His last act as King is to withdraw the hit on Dany, meaning he can be persuaded. We have some good standing with him lately, that should help our arguments. We should emphasize that capturing them alive will break the morale of the Targaryen supporters still left in the realm even more than killing them and making them martyrs for the Targ cause. By having them kneel before us in open court, the victory would be complete, and then Bobby B can decide if he still wants them killed.
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>>4757822
+1
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>>4757904
yes, literally on his death bed after being guilt tripped over it for weeks by his blood brother

get a grip
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>>4755316
> mayhaps we attract these individuals to join by paying them a bounty of one copper penny per rat they manage to capture and slay – we could reduce the population considerably.
But what's to stop someone from trying to breed rats so they get their rats:copper ratio?

>>4757774
>What next? (write-in)
Can we fucking get this boy some disinfectants? Sutures for his foot, alcohol, meds. Fuck losing a foot is no joke.
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>>4757806
+1
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>>4757907
Alright how about we send in Barristan as an assassin, but jump on the boat he's going in, then instead of killing them bring them back alive? Once they are on Westeros' soil he can't just kill them and make them martyrs without making the Crownlands rise up in rebellion and outraging all the others. I think Jon Arryn is pragmatic enough to recognise that it is better to keep them alive. Even Ned would refuse to become Hand of the King if Robert killed a 13 year old girl, and that will be our leverage to keep her alive. Send Viserys to the Wall.
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>>4757902
Nigger I do holy shit why the fuck do you think I'm posting this shit.
Like nigger what?
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>>4757915
cope and seethe
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Danyfags! Assemble!
>>4757882
>>4757834
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>>4757912
>But what's to stop someone from trying to breed rats so they get their rats:copper ratio?
That's simple

RATBURGERS

they become legitimate meat suppliers for quality mass produced high low quality for the crown's official super cheapo food supplier to all peasants using the highest quality of meats of course.

Did I mention it was high quality?

Or y'know, the ratcatcher's guild doing their monthly door-to-door rat checks. A great excuse to barge into people's homes and make small talk with them about their neighbors and important people. I mean, just neighbors. Yes.
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>>4757944
I cant imagine rats would make for great burgers, but I think they could be used as bait for larger pests and predators.
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>>4757970
When you're paying basically the cost of the dirt outside of the establishment you really shouldn't complain about the quality of the meat. It's nourishing and hopefully cooked enough to be clean.

But man if you've got larger pests than rats in the city limits you're gonna need more than some bait.

Besides it's not like we actually give a shit about the rats. If we did we'd just make cats mandatory for every neighborhood.
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I kneel, Danychade. Supporting >>4757882 >>4757834

This is me >>4755745
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>>4757914
we are a twelve year old boy
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Brotherly bonding ideal: we help him design a set of work safe attire or medieval equivalent to safety equipment. Hard hat, steel boots, welding mask.
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I don't see why anons are still pining after Gendry after the Fate point anon gave him a slow and cruel death. Move on.
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>>4757834
>Implying we should save her
No let's not.
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>>4757804
This
>>4757834
Fuck off
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>>4757804
Support

>>4757806
I don t think we know much at all of modern medicine, but i guess we can check on him.
Same for talking with Tyrion.
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>>4757804
Support
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>>4757882
Backing you all the way anon
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>>4757774
>>4757804
Support, Jon Arryn must die. Should we even attempt to persuade Stannis that we are a Baratheon since he seemed to briefly entertain the idea that we are actually Bobby's kid?
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>>4757882
I knew that the Danyfags were lurking around and waiting for the waifuwars to start. If I didn't know that Varys was trying to marry her to FAegon and would arrange a hit on Joff for even entertaining the idea of marrying her I might have supported you.
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>>4758126
? He allowed her to marry Drogo. Then Hizdahr. We need to gank Varys soon anyway.
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we will waifu margaery and no one else
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>>4758139
Yes, but that is before the dragons hatched and then he changes his mind when they sprung out of the egg. She was also not anywhere near Westeros so she wouldn't threaten FAegon taking the throne. After the dragon's hatched from the egg that's when Varys changed his mind about Dany being a non-issue if she was too busy in Meereen or as a Khaleesi to ever bother going back to Westeros.
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>>4758142
I would too if her character wasn't so questionable. Can you really trust her not to stab you in the night when it's time to make a major decision and her side is in the wrong?

At least Dany has been proven to be susceptible to Stockholm Syndrome, she eventually comes to love Drogo.
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>>4758147
The Dany vote would be fine if we don't involve Varys, he was FAegon on the throne period.
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>>4758147
if we aren't like the Joffrey in the show we should be save. If we marry Sansa she will be killed so that margaery can be Queen, as she said her self she wants to be THE Queen not a Queen
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>>4758139
We should try to fuck over both the spymasters since they will probably always move against us.
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>>4758155
Let's poison the entire small council lmao. Steal some tears of lys from Pycelle's chambers and mix it in the refreshments brought to the Small Council chamber. Wine, water, fruits, poison everything. Frame Lysa.
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>>4758147
yeah the ticket is being the first to to pop her cherry when she gets mind broken by drogo and losing her child she just goes full pysco but before that she was pretty submissive
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>>4758160
why stop there we have control of cisterns posion everyone and blame it on a plague no one in kings landing means no witnesses
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>>4758155
give each of them the others plans they will freak the fuck out as they see the pieces moved against them
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>>4758160
If this was done after rumours of her having a bastard with Baelish were established then that would serve as motive, especially if Jon has been killed at the same time. Depending on how it is planned, Littlefinger could be locked up along with her, making things easier for us.
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>>4758168
>>4757822
me btw
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Even if we don't kidnap Dany or go forward with the sex slave plan, allowing Dany to follow her canon route past this point is just calling for three adult dragons, an Unsullied army and a Dothraki army against us in a few years' time. Shouldn't we be using our meta-knowledge to prevent that from happening? Given that we won't have much influence over what happens with her once she gets hitched to Drogo and goes into the Dothraki Sea, we should be taking action when we can.
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>>4758181
Technically jorah still works for us at this point so we could just tell him to pull out and then she'll have no idea what shes doing. maybe?
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>>4758181
We have access to things that can contend with Dany's army of evil, wildlife and ballistas for one, we should look into recruiting qyburn to make us a frankenstein army
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>>4758194
good plan, we could pardon him and deprive her of one of her best advisers and bodyguards, he might not take the bait though since he loves her and all
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>>4758194
I don't think we'll have the time for that. Dad is still alive until the horde goes east, and by that point Jorah had already defected. Unless we have a compelling reason to pull Jorah out that can convince Dad.
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>>4758200
The point is, why fight at all when we can nip this in the bud? Even with all of our countermeasures, we'll still lose a lot of men. Why do we have to, when we can prevent all of it from happening? Is there any downside to sending a force to kill/kidnap her?
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>>4757774
Doesnt little Finger or some other dicker steal from Tthe State Treasury?
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>>4758208
For these reasons I'll support the Dany kidnap/kill plan.
>>4757834

>>4758215
Yeah he's embezzling a lot from the treasury. Tyrion figures it out when he's Master of Coin, and replaces all of Baelish's loyalists from the Treasury, so he's capable, at least.
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>>4757882
I think this is a retarded plan. I will still back it since it's not mindless carebear shit. One condition: Jaime comes with us as well. No tower fucking on this trip.
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>>4758291
Jaime is off with mum to the Westerlands, buddy. Best I can do is Barristan+ Arys Oakheart+ a few mercs. And us of course.
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>>4758298
If the Dany plan wins I'll be routing for you guys. I hope the Varys Blackfyre loyalist assassins aren't as deadlier as they seem to be.
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>>4758298
Ah. Can't be helped then.

>>4758302
Same. I have no interest in her but she is still more interesting than Sansa or Margaery, and at least this faction came up with a plan.
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>>4758221
we ought to push for a westeros national bank so we're not dependent on the iron bank
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>>4757774
Arent you a faggot for backing down?
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>>4757804
Agreed, though we should check in with tyrion here and there about the sewage and rat catchers
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We should prioritize Sanitation and farming, or try to start a myth that the royal family are descendants from a god or someshit and maybe make sythed chariots if we don't already have em.
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>>4757882
I'm here to +1, as honor demands.

>>4757774
That being said, I would like to spend some time with other children of the nobility before we leave. Keep in mind lads that we are in a unique position to intentionally develop relationships that will blossom over the years.

Also, speak personally to Jon before he dies. People always use him as a prop in the setting, and I want to know about the actual man.
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>>4757815
>>4757817
>>4758388
reminds me of the Brans wheelchair lore in the tv series.

If we stay in Westeros then this >>4757822 followed by this >>4758160 with Lysa (and Baelish’s) motive being the coverup of Robin as their bastard as well as their taking of the Vale will remove any troublemakers from court before we take Bobby B’s place. We will then have power to do what we want as king, including going after Dany or whichever waifu is voted for
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>>4758181
I do agree, we should atleast attempt to follow the spirit of Elsweyr's master plan.
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>>4757774 #
supporting
>>4757822 #
and treating gendry with what modern medicine we know about
part of dany’s draw is the dragons
we should wait for those
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>>4758441
Make sure*
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>>4758438
We shouldn't wait, we should be there so they imprint on us. Simple as.
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>>4758441
No speaky moon-runes; what does that sign say?
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>>4757882
>>4757774
+1
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>>4757882
Now this is stupid
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>>4758499
Danyfags have been waiting for a whole thread and a 3/4 of a thread to come out of the woodworks anon. If you think this is bad just wait till some anon comes up with the brilliant idea to go for a harem route.
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>>4752789
>Gunpowder anons: Fuck you. That is all.

Well. what about booze anons?
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>>4757786
Talk to Jon

>>4757804
>>4757806
>>4758068
>>4758084
>>4758104
>>4758121
>>4758385

Focus on martial training

>>4757786
>>4757806
>>4757912
>>4757913
>>4758084

Help with Gendry's recovery

>>4757806
>>4758084
>>4758385

Talk with Tyrion about sanitation

>>4757815
Make the printing press

>>4757822
>>4757906
>>4758438

Tell Robert Littlefinger is cucking Jon

>>4757834
>>4757882
>>4757886
>>4757929
>>4758005
>>4758111
>>4758221
>>4758291
>>4758430
>>4758499
This idea
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>>4758691

Wait.

Of the 10 votes for the idea i counted, 3 are duplicates from the same idea, bringing it down to 7.

Focusing on martial training wins. Whoops
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>>4758445
>We shouldn't wait, we should be there so they imprint on us. Simple as.

Nah there's some turbofaggot magicery or is it turbomagic faggery? that makes them only like targurreyuns or some dumbass horse hickey going on I'm sure.
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>>4758694
Wouldn't that still be a tie at 7-7?
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>>4758700
Another one of the votes I counted literally said "this is stupid" in relation to it, so, uhh, i'm not counting that one either
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>>4758703
How about this one: >>4758475
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>>4758703
>>4758706
If you want a tiebreaker, I would break in favour of the retarded plan with Dany, because I'm getting a bit bored here waiting.
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>>4758706
Ur Right, i must have linked the wrong vote
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>>4758710
>not wanting to flip a coin instead
wack
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>>4758694
You counted me for the dumbass idea when i was merely saying it was stupid
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>>4758703
Anything else than retarded Dany plan so I'm changing my vote to martial training.
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>>4758712
>Not getting Joffrey injured while trying to fight Pentoshi slave scum
>Not ending up having to fight Khal Drogo one on one
>Not having Barristan rescue Joff last moment by beheading Drogo
>Not telling Dany a bunch of lies about the council wanting her dead but Joff wanting her alive
>Not having Cutest Psycho form a Stockholm Syndrome relationship with Joff
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>>4758703
Fuck it, I’ll vote for the retarded plan because idgaf.
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>>4758721
>not wanting to flip a coin instead
w a c k
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I'm all about Pentos getting sacked for promising Gengis Khan a bride and then losing her right before he shows up.
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>>4758711
Bruh
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4758742
1 careboar
2 drgn anus
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>>4758756
Based.
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Call the vote QM, I'm sitting on the edge of my seat here!
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>>4758756
As always, pussy won.
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>>4758756
Density has spookend.
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Vote for us to get a pet westerland lion we can raise to match the stark's direwolves
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So are we going to steal the autistic flame sword prophecy from Stannis/Jon Snow/Jaime? I doubt we will need it since we'll just carpet bomb The Others with wildfire and possibly Dragons if we do kidnap Dany, but it would be cool to have a medieval lightsaber as a flex.
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>>4758782
That reminds me, we should steal the dragon eggs when we go to Illyrio's manse. I don't know how we'll hatch them though. Burn Viserys on a pyre, throw Dany in, and hope for the best?
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>>4758788
They'd be useless to us because we don't have Targ blood or Dragonbinder so we'll probably be vored or burned alive. Better to get rid of those dumb lizards or sell em off if they're gonna remain petrified.
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>the crown prince sneaking off to essos

This is just absurdly stupid, we're 12 years old in any fucking case
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>>4758794
Blame the Danyfags. Waifu > Anything else.
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>>4758793
If we can Stockholm Syndrome Dany, she can control them for us. Most of Dany's ideals pre-Drogo's death and her insanity match ours anyhow.
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>>4758793
>we don't have Targ blood

But King Aerys II is our real grandfather.
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>>4758794
I'm sure Sandor will just magically stop following us as we try to sneak away from him and the other guards. Just run really fast and change our outfit.
Also it's not like our vanishing would cause much problems for other people. How could we possibly fail?
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>>4758801
As long as Dany has not been DOTHRAK'D I'm down. Last thing we need in this quest is the main girl having used up loosy cunny.
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>>4758808
Surely it wouldn't cause untold amounts of civil unrest, never mind making us look like a complete idiot.
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>>4758811
Agreed on that 100%. It will be funny if we show up only to find out that Drogo and Dany left two weeks earlier.

>>4758808
Solution: take Sandor along with us! Promise him we'll take care of the fallout.
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>>4758811
>caring about hoes honey traps
>when you could be inventing medieval dino nuggets
>except they are dragon shaped
>draconuggets

Unenlightened.
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>>4758818
>Promise him we'll take care of the fallout.

Yea because thats going to happen
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>>4758873
Fine, we'll vore ONE dragon. I volunteer Viserion. Why can't Drogon or Rhaegal get mpregged so we can mass produce dragon meat?
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>>4758881
Its hardly vore if we mash em up and turn em into sausages.
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>>4758896
Right we'll have to tie it up like a chicken after sealing its mouth and learn how to swallow a quite bitter tasting and clawed, struggling pill.
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You spend the next several days doubling down on your conviction to become a warrior, drilling twice as hard with the master-at-arms to learn the martial ways of the knight, finishing your lessons each day physically spent and ragged, but elated by the tingling sensation of your endorphins kicking in. It's a good workout – mostly cardio, but some real strength training involved in hefting a blade above your head. Ser Aron Santagar tells you multiple times that your footwork is very good – you're far more deft and agile than the average swordsman at your age with your skill level, in his estimation. Now he might just be sucking up to the future king, but you have felt far more comfortable moving and dodging on the battlefield of the sparring arena than you have clashing weaponry with an enemy combatant.

After honing the physicality of your body for combat, you choose to hone the acuity of your mind for it as well. Asking for tomes to read from the more learned individuals in the Red Keep – Grand Maester Pycelle and your uncle Tyrion – you spend your nights studying various books about Westerosi military history and medieval strategy, exhausting your brain as thoroughly as the rest of your muscles before your weary eyes succumb to sleep.

At some point during your endeavors training, you manage to catch Ser Barristan 'The Bold' Selmy, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, in a moment of his free time and inquire with enthusiastic interest about all the wars and battles he has participated in.

The tall, older man with hair as white as his cloak chuckles softly at your youthful curiosity, the lined features on his weathered face and the sad, pale blue eye in his skull contorted in an expression of nostalgia for times long past.

He regales you with tales from his youth – from jousting against Prince Duncan Targaryen at age ten as a mystery knight in a tourney held at Blackhaven, to unhorsing that same prince as well as Ser Duncan the Tall, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard at the time, at a winter tourney in King's Landing six years later, earning himself his knighthood. He concludes his tales by speaking of what may be his greatest achievement – Slaying Maelys Blackfyre in single combat during the War of the Ninepenny Kings on the battlefield, after cutting a bloody path through the Golden Company to reach him, earning Ser Barristan undying fame by ending the male line of the Blackfyre Pretenders and singlehandedly ending the war. This feat was what earned him a position as part of the Kingsguard, having sworn his vows at age 23 before Ser Gerold Hightower.
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>Ser Barristan, listen to me. I have an important task for you. Across the Narrow Sea, Daenerys and Viserys Targaryen are receiving the hospitality of a wealthy magister from the Free City of Pentos by the name of Illyrio Mopatis. I need you to cross the sea, infiltrate his manse and capture them alive – if possible. Kill them if it isn't. This is your mission, Barristan, should you choose to accept it. As always, should you or any of your allies be caught or killed, the Seven Kingdoms will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This Prince Joffrey will self-destruct in ten seconds.

>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.

>Other (write-in)
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>>4758957
>Ser Barristan, listen to me. I have an important task for you. Across the Narrow Sea, Daenerys and Viserys Targaryen are receiving the hospitality of a wealthy magister from the Free City of Pentos by the name of Illyrio Mopatis. I need you to cross the sea, infiltrate his manse and capture them alive – if possible. Kill them if it isn't. This is your mission, Barristan, should you choose to accept it. As always, should you or any of your allies be caught or killed, the Seven Kingdoms will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This Prince Joffrey will self-destruct in ten seconds.
Give him a fat stack of dragons too to fund it, but account them as aid expenses to help the poor in the city.

We CIA now boys
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>>4758952
>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
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>>4758957
>>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
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>>4758957
>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
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>>4758957
>>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
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>>4758957
>>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
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>>4758957
>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
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>>4758957
>>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
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What was the point of the previous vote if you still went ahead with the losing/tied choice?
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>>4758991
Voting again due to unclear results?
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>>4759004
The plan wasn't to approach Barristan though, it was to call upon Varys separately and then in the small council, and get the council to agree to send Barristan + a few others. The way it's framed currently of course nobody will pick just talking by ourselves to Barristan.
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>>4759004
>>4759017
See these posts again : >>4757834 >>4757882
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>>4758991
>>4759017

Objectively, this version of the plan is far more likely to actually succeed so I don't know what you're bitching about.
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>>4758961
>>Ser Barristan, listen to me. I have an important task for you. Across the Narrow Sea, Daenerys and Viserys Targaryen are receiving the hospitality of a wealthy magister from the Free City of Pentos by the name of Illyrio Mopatis. I need you to cross the sea, infiltrate his manse and capture them alive – if possible. Kill them if it isn't. This is your mission, Barristan, should you choose to accept it. As always, should you or any of your allies be caught or killed, the Seven Kingdoms will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This Prince Joffrey will self-destruct in ten seconds.
A far more important point to mention is that she is getting married to a man with 40,000 mounted fighters. Then it's only a matter of time until they get ships and invade, dragging the realm into another civil war. Barristan saved lives once by sneaking into Duskendale and rescuing the king, now it is time to save thousands of lives before the realm is plunged into chaos.
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>>4758957
>>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
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>>4758957
>>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.

I hope Ser Barristan doesn't know about Joffrey torturing the shit out of small animals.
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>>4758957
>This Prince Joffrey will self-destruct in ten seconds.

Gotta vote for this, the wording is too funny to pass up.
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>>4759058
It's just a Mission Impossible reference.
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>>4758957
>>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
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>>4758957
>Ser Barristan, listen to me. I have an important task for you. Across the Narrow Sea, Daenerys and Viserys Targaryen are receiving the hospitality of a wealthy magister from the Free City of Pentos by the name of Illyrio Mopatis. I need you to cross the sea, infiltrate his manse and capture them alive – if possible. Kill them if it isn't. This is your mission, Barristan, should you choose to accept it. As always, should you or any of your allies be caught or killed, the Seven Kingdoms will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This Prince Joffrey will self-destruct in ten seconds.

I'd like to get something done today aside from dickriding npcs.
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>>4759078
>>4758957
+1
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We haven't done any official rolls so far. I want to vote for the Danaerys option, but how will it be decided whether Barrister accepts or not?
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>retards btfo
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>>4759096
>will it be decided whether Barrister accepts or not?

whether or not he would
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>>4759101
>your grace it is far past your bedtime
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>>4758957
>>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
The 12 year old crown Prince ordering one of the Kingsguard on this is...problematic. He answers to the King, and will laugh at a child telling him to do this. Not to mention the insight of said child will raise all kinds of questions. Pycelle for example could mention our strange behaviour and our request for a certain book if someone else was to drop it in conversation.
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>>4758957
>Ask ser Barristan to train us
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>>4758952
>Ser Barristan, listen to me. I have an important task for you. Across the Narrow Sea, Daenerys and Viserys Targaryen are receiving the hospitality of a wealthy magister from the Free City of Pentos by the name of Illyrio Mopatis. I need you to cross the sea, infiltrate his manse and capture them alive – if possible. Kill them if it isn't. This is your mission, Barristan, should you choose to accept it. As always, should you or any of your allies be caught or killed, the Seven Kingdoms will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This Prince Joffrey will self-destruct in ten seconds.
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>>4759101
>>4758957
I voted a few minutes ago, but my post is not showing up for me, so if this appears twice sorry about that.

Butter up Barristan by starting with the second option:
>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.

Then move on to the first option:
>Ser Barristan, listen to me. I have an important task for you. Across the Narrow Sea, Daenerys and Viserys Targaryen are receiving the hospitality of a wealthy magister from the Free City of Pentos by the name of Illyrio Mopatis. I need you to cross the sea, infiltrate his manse and capture them alive – if possible. Kill them if it isn't. This is your mission, Barristan, should you choose to accept it. As always, should you or any of your allies be caught or killed, the Seven Kingdoms will disavow any knowledge of your actions. This Prince Joffrey will self-destruct in ten seconds.

If this vote loses, perhaps we can kill Danaerys indirectly by not letting Barristan go, so she gets killed by that scorpion.
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>>4758957
>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King
And add

>I hope I can be half the knight and half the man you are when I'm grown!
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>>4758957
>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.

>Finger littlefingers with our big fingers of his state embezzlement.
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>>4758957
>Ser Barristan you're awesome! I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.
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>>4758957
>>Other
Tell hin that WE Heard little Finger talking about stealing from the State Treasury and WE ASK for His Help to Stop the coruption from spreading
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>>4759221
I Too like to randomly Capitalize Words as I type AS a form of emphasis Unnecessarily.
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“You're amazing, Ser Barristan,” you tell the veteran knight in adoration. “I hope you're still the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard when I become King.”

The man laughs. “I don't,” he replies. “Your father should outlive me by a decade or two at least, Your Grace.”

You simply smile and nod at the Lord Commander, allowing him to remain none the wiser about Robert's impending fate.

Roughly two days later, your royal father Robert Baratheon watches the tail end of your martial training and approaches as Ser Aron Santagar concludes the lesson on sticking them with the pointy end.

He slaps a ham hand down upon the crown of your head, ruffling your sweat-soaked golden curls and more than likely smearing chicken grease into your hair accidentally. Today the King wears a golden mantle with a cloak of black and gold squares.

“Good work out there, Joff,” he congratulates you on you progress. “Only a week and I can already see how much you've improved. Glad to see you sticking with it, son. No longer whining about the pain, are you?”

You shake your head. “No, father.”

Good!” he proudly declares, before offering some constructive criticism. “You dance around a bit too much though, Joff. Like you're dancing at a party with a girl rather than fighting a battle against a man. Gotta get some solid ground beneath your feat, stiffen your stance, put some weight behind your punches and then WHAM! Knock 'em flat!” Big Bobby B then guffaws heartily at his own brute force advice about brute force.

You ask your father to tell you of war and battles. He decides to recount to you some of his experiences during his conquest of the Iron Throne. He speaks of the three battles at Summerhall which he fought in a single day, defeating the forces of three different houses in the Stormlands loyal to King Aerys, eventually culminating in his killing of Lord Fell in single combat among the ruins of that Targaryen castle.

He speaks of the glory . . . and the grim reality of real warfare. “The songs never mention how they all shit themselves when they die, Joff. There's a difference between loving the song of swords, relishing the thrill of an honorable battle and enjoying the act of killing, do you understand me?”

You nod. “I do, Father.”

“Good. Because after slaying Lord Fell, I captured his son Silveraxe as well as Lords Grandison and Cafferen. They were taken to Storm's End as prisoners of war and kept in captivity while I consolidated my base of power and won the support of the rest of the Storm Lords. Soon, they too joined my cause, rebelled against the Mad King and Lord 'Silveraxe' still rules House Fell from his seat at Felwood to this day. Half the people in this keep served King Aerys and now they serve me just as loyally. Remembr that, Joff.”
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>>4759260
Aw, look at him being a good father. When does he throw us down a flight of stairs to teach us how to fall properly?
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Adding from my initial vote of >>4759112 to this >>4759221. Implicating Littlefinger in fraud, as well as highlighting Lysa’s affair and Robin’s bastardry will then give plenty of motive for Jon Arryn’s murder - and throw off the scent from us if we decide to off some of the small council. We could also say/spread the rumour that Jon suspected Lysa and Baelish which got him killed - we could even blame the book burning on Baelish and Lysa to cover up Robins heritage. All this carnage and we sit back and wait until we claim the throne with no resistance.
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>Do they though, Father? I fear the Spider still holds loyalties to the Targaryens.
>Tell Robert you saw Little Finger kissing Jon Arryn's wife.
>Tell Robert you will always show your enemies mercy when you are able.
>Ask Robert to take you hunting
>Ask to train personally with Robert
>Do they though, Father? I heard Little Finger was embezzling funds and think Tyrion should investigate just to make sure.
>Tell Robert about who Gendry is and his injury
>Other (write-in)
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>>4759293
>Tell Robert you will always show your enemies mercy when you are able.
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>>4759293
>Tell Robert you saw Little Finger kissing Jon Arryn's wife.
>Do they though, Father? I fear the Spider still holds loyalties to the Targaryens.

l o l
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>>4759293

>Do they though, Father? I heard Little Finger was embezzling funds and think Tyrion should investigate just to make sure
and, if I may
>Tell Robert you saw Little Finger kissing Jon Arryn's wife
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>>4759293
>>Tell Robert you saw Little Finger kissing Jon Arryn's wife.
>Do they though, Father? I heard Little Finger was embezzling funds and think Tyrion should investigate just to make sure.

Fuck that guy

>Ask Robert to take you hunting
>Tell Robert you will always show your enemies mercy when you are able.
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>>4759293
>Tell Robert you saw Little Finger kissing Jon Arryn's wife.
>Ask to train personally with Robert
>Tell Robert about who Gendry is and his injury
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>>4759293
>>Do they though, Father? I fear the Spider still holds loyalties to the Targaryens.
>>Tell Robert you saw Little Finger kissing Jon Arryn's wife.
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>>4759293
>>Tell Robert you will always show your enemies mercy when you are able.

Sometimes you need to beat men down, but help them back up to their feet after they bend the knee. Or something to that effect.
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Don't lie about seeing Lysa kissing Arryn, we can easily be called out on it by asking where and when and Bobby will not be impressed with a liar, and Baelish will be on to us, don't go for someone unless you can finish them off.
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>>4759293
>Do they though, Father? I fear the Spider still holds loyalties to the Targaryens.
>>4759322
this
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>>4759293
>>Tell Robert you will always show your enemies mercy when you are able.
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>>4759293
>Do they though, Father? I fear the Spider still holds loyalties to the Targaryens.

Shouldn't be hard for any of Lord Gash's rivals to confirm the Targs were at his old friend's manse.
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>>4759301
>>4759306
>>4759316
>>4759350
>>4759350

Show mercy to your enemies

>>4759303
>>4759312
>>4759329
>>4759368

Spider is loyal to Targaryens

>>4759303
>>4759305
>>4759306
>>4759310
>>4759312

Little Finger kissed Lysa

>>4759305
>>4759306

Little Finger is embezzling

>>4759306

Take me hunting, Daddy

>>4759310
Ask to be trained personally

>>4759310
Tell Robert about Gendry

Writing
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BTW, Elsweyr is a pretty avid skateboarding enthusiast so you should think about inventing and introducing that into Westeros.
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>>4757534
you know the zombie dragon stuff is from the show only yeas?
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>>4758793
targaryen blood controls dragons? from what anime did you learn that?
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>>4759453
A better question to ask is "Do you care?".
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>>4759480
If you are not trolling, Targ blood helps in controlling dragons due to them being dragonlords from Valyria. They dragons would likely eat us if we tried to tame them.
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>>4759552
You never know if you don’t try
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>>4759480
Nigger did you even read the books?
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>>4759577
What kind of jackass reads?
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>>4759581
Ah shit u rite
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>>4759572
This is what would happen to us

"Gaining access to the dragons, Quentyn eventually attempts to tame Viserion, but Rhaegal bathes Quentyn from behind with dragonfire"

https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Quentyn_Martell
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>>4759572
>>4759655
Yeah it's not just the blood relations it's the lacking fire immunity too. Little dragons spurt fire at people by default. Only good for vore.
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So, how do we deal with the Dany situation? If we leave it as is, it will end up biting us in the ass, and the longer we wait the less we'll be able to affect the situation to our satisfaction.
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>>4759772
I don't see why we can't take our time, let Drogo roid rage on Viserys, and then send men to go wait in Qarth for Dany and the baby dragons to show up in their weakest state. It takes years for her to turn into a threat.
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>>4759772
Literally just build up a navy that we need anyways
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>>4759772
Marry Sansa so we can make her train her warging powers and have her take over drogon and eat the other dragons before mortally wounding itself.
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>>4759821
>Marry Sansa
Shit plan
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>>4759821
>Marry Sansa
Big oof
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>>4759821
>Marry Sansa
lmao reported
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>>4759821
>Marry Sansa so we can
Vomit? You want us to puke? Cause that'll do it.
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>>4759836
>>4759848
>>4759854
seethe
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>>4759856
and cope
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>>4759821
Shit plan
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Since plan sex slave Dany is a no-go now, I propose plan sex slave Catelyn.
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>>4759858
>>4759861
Sadly this is not Uno. So your attempted reversal is both invalid and saddening. Good day sir.
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>>4759811
House Redwyne has the largest fleet in Westeros, the only one capable of fighting the Iron Fleet or the Royal Fleet. If only they had a daughter at the perfect age...
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>>4759903
Post a potential pic of this Desmera and I might change my mind. The awoiaf page has only 1 pic and it's not very flattering.
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>>4759905
The only description we have is freckles and probably red or strawberry blonde hair. Here you go.
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>>4759903
If only we were to wed the daughter of their liege lord.
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>>4759836
>>4759848
>>4759854
>>4759856
>>4759865
Dial eight
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>>4759909
She looks kinda flat. Not that Dany, Sansa or Margaery's boobas are anything to write home about. I've always preferred this cosplayer's version of Margaery, for obvious reasons.
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>>4759940
Who has an exhaustive agenda of his own. Why not cut out the middle man when Redwyne is the one with all the good wine and ships? I'm just not seeing a single advantage of Tyrell over Redwyne. I'm all ears if there is one.

>>4759967
I mean, she's supposed to be like 14 at this point. The show characters are all up-aged a ton. Give her some kids and bring about the change you want to see.
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>>4759967
Yeah when she was getting put together someone was on a time crunch and put the mouth on a bit sideways.

Irrecoverable ugly. Pity.
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>>4759886
catelyn is a babe in canon
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>>4759293
>>Do they though, Father? I fear the Spider still holds loyalties to the Targaryens.
>>Tell Robert you saw Little Finger kissing Jon Arryn's wife.
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Shireenchads ww@
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>>4759293
>Tell Robert you will always show your enemies mercy when you are able.
Saying we saw Baelish kiss Arryn's wife is risky, because it's a fucking lie, we never saw that.
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>>4760059
All busy being burned by Stannis to lose a war.
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>>4760002
What? No? Dude she's the mother of 5 children, around 35 in the books I think. You may be thinking of Ermesande Hayford betrothed to Tyrek Lannister, she's like 2 years old.
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>>4760060
It would also escalate the situation regarding the incest. Robert would 100% confront someone over it, Jon or Baelish, and they might reveal the incest as a counter if it comes out Joff told Robert. Might just be that Robert sees it as them trying to hit back at him for the reveal but who knows.
>>4760065
If we end up in the same situation as Joffrey with the coup, should kill Eddard early so Cat is forced to marry a Frey lol
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>>4759886
Nah, we go mad headpat

Sex slave Myrcella
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You nod your head again, intently listening to and digesting the King's wisdom as you walk through the garden and chat. “I will always show my enemies mercy in victory when I am able to, Father.”

He fixes you with a soft smile. “As you should.”

You force a conflicted expression onto your face as you mentally choreograph the structure to your next sentence in the silence which follows in the wake of your concluded conversation about warfare, considering the severity and importance of the line's proper delivery. “Father . . . I saw the Master of Coin kissing Lady Arryn.”

Robert halts suddenly in his tracks, a look of horrified stupefaction on his features underneath the coal-black beard which obscures the majority of his visage. “What?”

You genuinely flinch at his very conspicuous, attention-drawing bellow and incorporate your fear of being caught into the narrative you're spinning like a spider's web of your own. “Apologies, Father. I didn't know whether or not I should say something or who to tell or if I should tell you or the Hand of the King or what to do about it. I shouldn't have said anything, forgive me.”

NO!” he disagrees with your intentionally false conclusion. The ridiculously strong man grabs your shoulder, squeezes it painfully and yanks you so close you bounce into his jiggling, fat belly. “When did you see this?”

“A few days ago,” you answer promptly. “Near the Tower of the Hand.”

He looks you in the eyeball, ice cold eyes of blue piercing directly into your soul as he measures your heart with his stare. “Are you lying to me, boy? I will tan your hide so raw you won't be able to sit down until your next nameday if you are.”

“I-I swear,” you stammer out the lie with a nugget of truth at its core, “before the old gods and the new, I saw it, Father. Saw them. Kissing.” You swallow a gulp and meet his blue stare with your unflinching green one.

A tense silence lingers in the aftermath of the exchange, the giant's eyes boring into you, waiting for you to flinch and admit your falsehood. But you do not waver or break before his fatherly judgment.

Eventually, the King sighs out and pulls back, letting go of the vice grip he has on your shoulder, thinking deeply on the ramifications of what you've just told him and what they might mean for the future. “Gods damn that soft-headed woman,” he curses quietly, accepting your fabrication for the truth. “Have you told anyone else?”

You vehemently shake your head. “No.”

“Good,” he says. “Keep it that way. Forget you ever saw it.”

“Father?” you question, cocking your head.
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“The day she's caught in Littlefinger's bed is the day I'll handle the situation,” Robert outlines to you. “Until then, I won't have the realm upset over the testimony of a child nor allow rumors to fester of my foster father being given horns by the sister of my foster brother's wife. And that weaselly whore monger is good with coin, I'll give him that – the shit. Fidelity is difficult, Joff. This is something you'll grow to learn, being my son. But . . . don't dishonor your bride, whoever she turns out to be. Now run along, I've got a continent to rule.”

With a heavy heart and dark circles beneath his eyes, the stern-faced King parts ways with you, leaving you to your own devices once more.

>What next? (write-in)
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>>4760092
Kek. Of course Robert wouldn't do anything. If Jon Arryn dies, Robert might suspect Lysa and Baelish first now. That's a plus.
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>>4760092
Talk to Shireen, and give the gal a headpat. Then fill her head with tall tales of dragonglass and the Others, start sowing the seeds that may bloom later, to our benefit.
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>>4760117
Shireen is on Dragonstone with her mother
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Give Stannis a headpat, and rub his bald spot.
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>>4760092
check on Gendry and see how his foot is healing
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>>4760092
>What next? (write-in)
Dunno. Everyone seems to have an idea of what to do. Can we visit our half brother and make sure his foot doesn't fall off or rot? Can we use our meta knowledge to help?
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I don't think there's much left to do other than wait for canon. Checking in on Gendry and training hard as usual are the only things I can think of.
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>>4760092
>What next? (write-in)
Work with Tyrion on Kings Landing’s sewage system and the Rat Catchers Guild, and improve martial training. With the motive for Jon Arryn’s murder established, we can sit back and wait until things start to happen.
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Should we work on sitting in on the Small Council as an observer for now?
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>>4760143
Yeah, lets do that.
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>>4760092
Check in on Gendry, make sure he’s alright, and by visiting we show we care about his welfare. Then planning with Tyrion
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>>4760143
just remember if we show too much competence and interest, Varys may have us murdered
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we should get to know Jalabhar Xho

get some Summer Isle friends so we can have help building our future trade network.

Summer Islanders are prolific sailors
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>>4760146
We should make retarded suggestions everyone once in a while to keep the illusion of being canon Joffrey. Like building a canal in the Bay of Eagles to bridge the Narrow Sea and the Sunset Sea, helping Xalabhar Jho conquer the Summer Islands in exchange for goldenheart bows, building a central bank of Westeros, shit like that.
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>>4760154
>"If we do not give the long night permission to come over the wall the temperature legally cannot drop."
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When Robert kicks the bucket would expanding the small council be a good idea? I had these in mind:

>Master of Trade. Change the master of coin to running a royal bank and investing domestically. Master of trade will look outward and control things like tariffs and the like.

>Master of Agriculture a central authority to discover and spread better agricultural methods, coordinate harvests, and organise moving food around.

>Master of propaganda / public relations

> Maybe some guy who represents the interests of the commoners - this should be someone who was born a commoner.

>Maybe some guy in charge of the realms infrastructure and labour.

I’m not sure a master of war is a good idea since it would indicate to others that we’re not confident in our own ability.
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>>4760202
the propaganda shit doesn't make a lot of sense, and the problem with the infrastructure guy is we're talking about a fuedal monarchy. outside the crownlands the king does't have that much authority.

for the peasant representative, maybe call them the Reeve of King's Landing
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>>4760202
>Master of propaganda / public relations
Master of arts would works just a well and sound better

> Maybe some guy who represents the interests of the commoners - this should be someone who was born a commoner.
Plebs don't need to think for themselves we can think for them

>War
Yeah nah a centralized army would be needed first
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>>4760202
>Maybe some guy who represents the interests of the commoners - this should be someone who was born a commoner.
There's a trader's guild in King's Landing, how about their leader?
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>>4760218
Really? You want to be stabbed in the back? It's literally in the name

trader

come on dude
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>>4760207
I think a commoner in a council able to voice concern over the effects of some of our policies would be valuable. If chosen correctly they would be loyal only to us as well. They would be able to help us avoid revolts and such and help us improve relations with the populace to keep them on side.
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>>4760274
would help prevent stuff like the riots which tore up King's Landing in canon
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>>4760274
>>4760370
I just remembered about this: https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Antler_Men

Essentially a group of rich traders who owed money to the crown trying to defect to Stannis and working against Joffrey inside King's Landing. Maybe they hoped Stannis would forgive their debts for fighting for him? I remembered because there's a scene where Joffrey flings off the men in Stannis' direction from the three massive trebuchets.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_DVda4af98
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>>4760124
Support
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>>4760408
Amazing
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>>4760092
>Train more?
>Talk to tyrion about rat catcher guild and Sanitation,
maybe make bleach and try to explain how diseases work?
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If we check in on Gendry for no fucking reason instead of getting something productive done, he will choke on his pillow.
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>>4760535
We should ensure your Fate point is being spent wisely.
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>>4760535
Fuck off we need to check on our bro
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>>4760124
>>4760092
Support checking on Gendry. We will ensure the Fate point was used super duper wisely by making sure his foot heals!
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>>4759969
Tyrell gives political alliance with all of the reach, not just one house. If the Tyrells aren't given a piece of the pie they're likely to side with rebels, or at least not aid us.
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>>4760138
Support
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>>4760580
Would Olenna give up anymore political clamoring if we wed the Tyrells? I doubt the Queen of Thorns would give up until all of her grandkids were married to royals.
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>>4760138
Support
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>>4760545
>>4760568
I guess it's a decent litmus test for whether this quest will be allowed to go anywhere. Pussing out on a minor character death in this setting would be telling.

>>4760580
>>4760591
The Queen of thorns IS Desmera's grandmother and her mother is Mina Tyrell. Mace's sister. Do you think there is any chance the Tyrells wouldn't listen to a Redwyne queen? We have the Reach either way.
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Marry Myrcella. That's it. That's the whole damn tweet.
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>>4760645
French kiss Myrcella and Cersei, or else you are a pussy.
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>>4760708
Only if it's at the same time.
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>>4760138
>>4760145
Support.

>>4760632
Sperging out over people wanting to spend time with a minor character will only make them want it more anon. Give up and enjoy the grill mate.
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>>4760138
+1
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>>4760138
Support
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>>4760632
So, by your own argument the Redwynes are an extension of the Tyrells, what would be the point of playing around with one of the lesser members of their family? They would be slighted if nothing else. desu I think you are trying to sow dissention to help further the cause of whatever waifu you prefer.
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>>4760124
>>4760129
>>4760131
>>4760145
>>4760414
>>4760568
>>4760762

Check on Gendry


>>4760131
>>4760138
>>4760456
>>4760587
>>4760602
>>4760762
>>4760790
>>4760798

Train hard

>>4760138
>>4760145
>>4760456
>>4760587
>>4760602
>>4760762
>>4760790
>>4760798

Rat Catcher's Guild


Three Way Tie, woo! These are all compatible.
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>>4760822
THEN FUCKING MASH EM TOGETHER OR ROLL
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>>4760822
give gendry a big hug
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>>4760822
pour pure ethanol into robs wine.
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>>4760801
By that same token, what would be the point in playing around with one of the greater members of the family? Kings in the past have married Blackwoods, Hightowers, Dondarrions, Velaryons, etc, Redwyne is just as acceptable. This is the one time when we are playing a character that doesn't need to give a shit about marrying the absolute "highest" person and you want to waste that opportunity for a convenience marriage that isn't convenient? Margaery was only chosen in the books to match the enticement Renly had forced. That's it. The match lost the Lannisters' control of their own Small Council. It's a stupid fucking move born of wartime desperation. Redwyne at least doesn't come with the caveat of Mace coming in and trying to get all of his bannermen more high titles. Paxter would have every reason to not want to share power with other Reachmen because it would only serve to put them on more even footing with his own house.

I don't even have a real preference for the girl. A Tarley or a Rowan or a Hightower would be just fine with me. I just supported her because another anon presented the idea. My only preference in a waifu is that it's not another pop culture icon from the books/show because that's boring and counterproductive.
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>>4760822
>7
>8
>8

>3 way tie

Gendry lost the vote.
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>>4760861
very perceptive
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>>4760861
math hard
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>>4760822
Put Train and Rat Catcher Guild together. we can do both
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>>4760861
It is unfortunate, but with the book missing and the boy dead before Stark arrives, then we might have a chance of slipping under the radar - even though it is unlikely.
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>>4760899
Eddard is too dense to notice these things until he was constantly directed towards it from Baelish. We have to kill off that nuisance immediately.
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>>4760861
Oh, you can count?

>>4760822
I'm voting to visit Gendry to tie it up properly.
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>>4760994
Based
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>>4760092
>>4760822
Yeah +1 to checking out gendry. :^)
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>>4761015
Sheeeit I guess Gendry won?
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>>4760994
>>4761015
nice
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>>4760994
>>4761015
>>4761000
>>4761023

I'm tickled pink by your petty spite.
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>>4761029
Obsessed
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>>4761029
Sometimes a retard has to do what a retard has to do. And today - I am retard.
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>>4760822
>Rat Catcher's Guild
+1
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>>4761031
That's not me, retard. Nor do I care if you want to waste another day of quest time playing butt buddy to a corpse.
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>>4761057
Okay, but you just proved my point. Obsessed.
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Having planted that seed of distrust in the mind of Robert Baratheon, you go about your days at the Red Keep as before, training with the blade and honing your mind studying. You visit Gendry's bedside a few times to check up on him and make sure he's doing alright – the bastard boy ironically recuperating from his seemingly grievous foot injury at the Tower of the Hand in a small side chamber where Jon Arryn's household maester can easily tend to him. It seems Maester Colemon is an excellent healer and assures you the youth will be back on his feet and crafting armor once more after only a little less than a fortnight of recovery time thanks to his hearty constitution.

You make small talk with the small folk, who appreciates your concern for his well-being as well as the Hand of the King's, who has apparently been checking in on him periodically as well. Gendry informs you this isn't the first injury he's suffered before working at the forge – although all the previous workplace accidents involved burning rather than stabbing. Still, he maintains a good attitude about the whole debacle and doesn't seem to blame your machinations in the slightest for what happened. It appears the fact that your initial warning of how Stannis Baratheon and Jon Arryn would be interested in him turned out to be accurate has convinced him you aren't just some delusional child.

In addition to all that, you continue working with The Chief Architect of Sanitation in updating and improving the infrastructure of King's Landing's sewage system. Together, Tyrion and yourself venture several times from the Keep into the city proper to take a look at the various areas suffering the most from the stink and filth which plague the capital, bouncing ideas off one another and positing potential solutions that you might be able to enact with your limited budget.

The worst of these places is obviously Flea Bottom – the poorest slum in King's Landing as well as the capital's foulest and most lawless district. Rife with poverty and crime, this down-trodden area of town is a maze of twisty, unpaved alleys and cross-streets below the Street of Flour on the way down the east side of Rhaenys's Hill – named after Aegon the Conqueror's Second Sister-Wife. The buildings lean over the narrow alleys, almost touching one another and the air is filled with the stench of pigsties, stables, and tanner's sheds, mixed in with the smell of winesinks and whorehouses.

Cheap pot-shops along the alleys sell 'bowls o' brown' – a thick stew with vaguely discernible meat of dubious origin. The area is also littered with gambling dens and rat pits – where the filthy vermin either fight one another for sport and coin or are ripped to shreds by dogs unknowingly competing for kills.
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>>4761057
Cope
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The prominence of the latter of these establishments is precisely why Tyrion Lannister has elected for Flea Bottom to be where the Rat Catcher's Guild is headquartered. Traveling via carriage to the semi-abandoned building he had carefully selected to house this brand new arm of the sanitation department, you enter to find it filled with all sorts of unsavory looking characters.

Rats scurry underfoot and you have to press your orange-scented handkerchief to your face to overwhelm the terrible stench which permeates every corner of Flea Bottom.

“In the short time the bounty on rats has been posted,” Tyrion explains while you walk, “these individuals have proved themselves the most capable earners, and have all agreed to officially join the guild. Rat catchers!” Tyrion suddenly calls them to attention, causing the various lowlifes to perk up from whatever illicit activities they were engaged in as the source of their recent influx of coin has addressed them. “Prince Joffrey Baratheon, heir to the Iron Throne, here to inspect your work.”

Eyes wide as saucers, unused to being in the same room as royalty, the thugs and thieves give you bows and nods of respect which are simultaneously half-assed and stiff at the same time. “Nephew, may I introduce Rucket, Bubyrd, Ormly, Scint and Onyx. We are currently missing a couple members of this fine association, but I'm sure they'll return with their latest haul soon enough. Is . . . this what you were imagining, when you pitched the idea?”

>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
>No. This is stupid.
>Make eyes at the redhead. She's kind of cute, for a filthy commoner.
>Yo is that dude a hedge wizard???
>Inform Tyrion you'd like to speak with the guild in private
>Wait patiently for the other members of the guild to arrive
>Other (write-in)
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>>4761066
>It seems Maester Colemon is an excellent healer and assures you the youth will be back on his feet and crafting armor once more after only a little less than a fortnight of recovery time thanks to his hearty constitution.
Based QM and based Maester Coleman.
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>>4761075
>>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
"Gentlemen and my lady, King's Landing is grateful for your service."
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>>4761066
>Cheap pot-shops along the alleys sell 'bowls o' brown' – a thick stew with vaguely discernible meat of dubious origin
The ratburgers

THEY CALL TO ME
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>>4761075
>>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
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>>4761075
>>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.

>>4761085
More sanitary than gunk mystery meat chili. Smallfolk would be grateful to have a sanitary and royalty approved low cost meal.
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>>4761075
>Other (write-in)
Rat Kebab Rat Burger Ratloaf Rat sausage
It's time for a new revolution
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>>4761075
>>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
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>>4761075
>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
Also
>Other (write-in)
>It is my intention for the most efficient (and trustworthy) rat catchers to eventually work in the Red Keep. If they prove themselves resourceful enough, they may have other uses we can call upon later.
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>>4761092
(That second part is said privately to Tyrion)
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>>4761075
>>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
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>>4761075
>>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
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>>4761075
>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
>>4761089
based
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>>4761075
>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
time to invent the iconic 'sausage in a bun'
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>>4761075
>Yo is that dude a hedge wizard???
No one gonna point that out?
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>>4761139
What, niggas can't wear pointy hats now?
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>>4761075
>>Make eyes at the redhead. She's kind of cute, for a filthy commoner.
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>>4761075
>Make eyes at the redhead. She's kind of cute, for a filthy commoner.
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>>4761177
>>4761075
+1
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>>4761075
>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
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>>4761075
>>Make eyes at the redhead. She's kind of cute, for a filthy commoner.
>>Yes it is. Well done, Tyrion.
>>Wiggle eyebrows at Loras.

pretty small guild, but a good start
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Started rewatching GOT, assuming Arryn still dies, and Bobby goes to fetch Ned, with what we've done already, we can avoid so much shit, by just not going psycho on the Butcher's boy.
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“Yes it is,” you confirm, more than satisfied with what the Imp was able to conjure up in less than a fortnight's time. “Well done, Tyrion.” You clap a hand on his shoulder, squeezing it with a measure of familial affection that you can feel him subtly return with a smirk.

The dwarf's opinion of you has undoubtedly changed for the positive over the course of these last several days spending so much time together on this pursuit. Your uncle has shot many curious, searching glances in your direction, unexpectedly impressed with your studiousness, your friendliness, your genuine dedication to cleaning up King's Landing, your sense of humor, your precociousness and, maybe most importantly of all, your cunning intelligence which has shined through from time to time in the form of novel ideas and questions. It's clear to you that before now, Tyrion had never been able to get a clear sense of what his nephew was truly like – the two of them living so far apart in vastly different cities separated by hundreds of miles. Whatever rumors he might have gleaned of Joffrey Baratheon's sociopathic tendencies, you have quashed many of those suspicions by the direct impression you've left on him while the two of you worked in tandem. Tyrion many still not fully trust you – hell, he may even be expecting a Machiavellian betrayal from you at some point in the near future, considering his shrewd, skeptical behavior and your terrible, if obscure, reputation.

But you believe you've made oodles of progress in showing him a softer, wittier side of Joffrey – a non-existent, alien side but a side nonetheless.

You clear your throat and address the rat catchers. “Gentlemen and my lady,” you greet them, nodding towards the redhead leaning coolly against the wall on your left, fixing her with a dashing smile which elicits a soft giggle from the lowborn woman and a scowl from the fat lady on the right, “King's Landing is grateful for your service.”

>Very soon, a mother rat and her sickly pup will be attempting to scurry away from King's Landing under the guise of being great, blue birds, after having spread their disease at the Red Keep. I need you, my trustworthy rat catchers, to capture these two rodents alive before they leave the capital and bring them to me. You will be well rewarded for your efforts.
>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
>Other (write-in)
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>>4761187
>Very soon, a mother rat and her sickly pup will be attempting to scurry away from King's Landing under the guise of being great, blue birds, after having spread their disease at the Red Keep. I need you, my trustworthy rat catchers, to capture these two rodents alive before they leave the capital and bring them to me. You will be well rewarded for your efforts.
>Make eyes at the redhead
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>>4761187
>implying we can't have both

I want my McRatz damnit!
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>>4761187
>>Very soon, a mother rat and her sickly pup will be attempting to scurry away from King's Landing under the guise of being great, blue birds, after having spread their disease at the Red Keep. I need you, my trustworthy rat catchers, to capture these two rodents alive before they leave the capital and bring them to me. You will be well rewarded for your efforts.
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>>4761187
>>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.

It's way to early to be plotting the abduction of the Master of Coin and the Lady of a Great House. That's just suicidal and Tyrion would instantly put a stop to it and think us retarded. Even criminal scum would balk at it.
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>>4761202
vote for both nigguh
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>>4761187
>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
>Flirt with the redhead
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>>4761207
Sweet Robin not Baelish, misread that, still a bad idea. If something goes wrong, like Robin having a fit and dying, we're super fucked.
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>>4761089
>It's time for a ratvolution!

Fixed it for ya mate.
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>>4761207
>>4761215
agreed, +1
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>>4761211
Fine, I'll make it clear.

>>4761187
>Very soon, a mother rat and her sickly pup will be attempting to scurry away from King's Landing under the guise of being great, blue birds, after having spread their disease at the Red Keep. I need you, my trustworthy rat catchers, to capture these two rodents alive before they leave the capital and bring them to me. You will be well rewarded for your efforts.
>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
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>>4761187
>Very soon, a mother rat and her sickly pup will be attempting to scurry away from King's Landing under the guise of being great, blue birds, after having spread their disease at the Red Keep. I need you, my trustworthy rat catchers, to capture these two rodents alive before they leave the capital and bring them to me. You will be well rewarded for your efforts.
>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
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>>4761187
>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring

Fuck it. Here you go, grill anons. Also,

>Other (write-in) flirt with the redhead more.
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>>4761187
>>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
McRatz plan nao.
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>>4761187
>>Very soon, a mother rat and her sickly pup will be attempting to scurry away from King's Landing under the guise of being great, blue birds, after having spread their disease at the Red Keep. I need you, my trustworthy rat catchers, to capture these two rodents alive before they leave the capital and bring them to me. You will be well rewarded for your efforts.

>>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
>Flirt with the redhead

The first option isn't a flat out abduction out of the blue, only stopping Lysa from leaving once she's poisoned Jon Arryn. A reasonable measure.
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>>4761187
>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
>Make eyes at the redhead
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>>4761187
>>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
I cannot resist. If nothing else, sandwiches should still be popular for being easy to eat and convenient to carry.
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>>4761187
>Very soon, a mother rat and her sickly pup will be attempting to scurry away from King's Landing under the guise of being great, blue birds, after having spread their disease at the Red Keep. I need you, my trustworthy rat catchers, to capture these two rodents alive before they leave the capital and bring them to me. You will be well rewarded for your efforts.
>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
>Other (write-in)
Ask redhead how much for ficki ficki
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>>4761187
>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
>>4761207
>>4761215
Agreed, we don’t even know who these guys are yet, for all we know they could already be employed by Varys, or worse — Littlefinger.
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>>4761232
>>4761187
+1
>>
Not to keep belabouring a point, but nothing has happened to Arryn yet. If we make plans to prevent his wife and son from fleeing his death, then Arryn dies, Tyrion's gonna think we murdered him.
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>>4761187
>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
>Flirt with the redhead
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>>4761187
>>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.
Also Tell him that little Finger is stealing from the State Treasury and Kissing the Lady of the Kings hand
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>>4761319
>breaking a promise to father fatso
How could you anon? We could tell him about the creative accounting though. Baelish is a man of suspiciously high means for most of his money coming from cheap whores. Really makes you thunk huh
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>>4761191
>>4761206
>>4761221
>>4761229
>>4761239
>>4761256
>>4761277 (send Tyrion away first)
>>4761334

Capture Lysa Arryn

>>4761191
>>4761212
>>4761232
>>4761245
>>4761256
>>4761264
>>4761334


Flirt with the redhead

>>4761206
>>4761212
>>4761219
>>4761221
>>4761229
>>4761232
>>4761234
>>4761239
>>4761245
>>4761248
>>4761256
>>4761258
>>4761264
>>4761307
>>4761319

Rat burgers
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>>4761187
>Tyrion, I need you to go purchase onions, the cheapest herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread. We're going to skin these vermin, thoroughly cook the meat and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onion and herbs for flavoring.

>Flirt more with the redhead
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>>4761339
Is that another deadlock?
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>>4761344
The one counted as send Tyrion away was mine, but that wasn't a vote for capture, I was telling anons that capturing was a bad plan, that's why I didn't link it back to QM's update.
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>>4761324
Yeah, you are right, lets Talk about the creative accounting With him
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>>4761339
>FLIRT WITH REDHEAD
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>>4761361
based coomer
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>>4761356
Trick railroading? God forbid
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>>4761363
At the very least, his dick knows what he wants. Even if redheads are so passe.
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>>4761368

God, what would even be the railroad in this quest?

Events happening without change from the books???
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>>4761356
+1 for tipping off Tyrion to Littlefinger's creative accounting.
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>>4761375
I'm pretty sure railroading this would have an interdimensional train hit Joffrey and then we get put into Elsewyr's little boy body as Joffrey's personality.
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>>4761375
its railroading if trick doesnt let us fuck tywin
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>>4761376
give that another +1
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>>4761356
+1 tell our favorite uncle
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>>4761376
Okay, but not too obviously, like do it when we are in private.
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You turn back to the Chief Architect of Sanitation. “Nuncle,” you address him somewhat casually, “I need you to go out and purchase some onions, the cheapest and strongest smelling herbs and spices you can get your hands on and copious loaves of bread.”

Tyrion stares up at you strangely, disarmed by this sudden, nonsensical pivot from the direction he thought this situation was heading. “ . . . why do you need me to do that, nephew?”

You grin, stretching out your arms as you fully explain the idea. “Because we're going to skin the rats we catch, harvest the meat from their bones, thoroughly cook it and then sell it to people in between two slices of bread, coated with onions and herbs for flavoring.”

Tyrion laughs at you suggestion. Then he realizes you aren't joking after a moment and looks at you aghast. “Nephew, they're rife with disease. I thought the point of this endeavor was to cut down on the amount of unsanitary filth plaguing the commons of the capital, not feed it directly into their mouths.”

“If we cook the meat thoroughly until its almost burnt,” you assure your Lannister kinsman, “there shouldn't be a problem and certainly not a stench. And the profit we make will more than recoup our monetary investment into the bounties, the ingredients and the guild itself. In addition, I think the smallfolk will love this food – it would most certainly boost morale in the capital.”

Tyrion appears dumbfounded by your speech, the man clearly wondering if you're actually retarded.

The large man seated at the guild table's midpoint stands up, having overheard your exchange with Tyrion. His pallid, deeply lined face curdles and his small, narrow-set eyes glare at you between the curtain of his yellow-tinted silver hair. “You gathered us here to employ us as some common cooks?”

“Not common cooks,” the redheaded woman dryly disagrees with her compatriot's assessment. “Rat cooks. We've got the prestigious honor of handling and skinning the filthy, diseased things while they're still infectious.”

The large man with a high and broad forehead growls. “That isn't what you told us, dwarf!”

Tyrion holds his hands up to soothe the savage scoundrel. “I assure you, Ormly, that wasn't the implication of your duties when His Grace and I discussed the matter. Nephew, I assure you the . . . talents of the individuals of this room would be wasted as kitchen drudges.”

He leans in close and whispers “What the fuck are you doing?"

>Oh shit, I thought these were regular rat catchers, not the special ones.
>Fuck you Tyrion, it's a good idea. These faggots should be happy I'm including them in this amazing business venture.
>Have that man killed, I don't like the way he speaks to you or I.
>Flirt with the redhead
>Go get the fucking bread and spices, Imp.
>Haha, I was just joking about all that.
>Other (write-in)
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>>4761526
Forgot pic
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>>4761526
It was a joke
>Very soon, a mother rat and her sickly pup will be attempting to scurry away from King's Landing under the guise of being great, blue birds, after having spread their disease at the Red Keep. I need you, my trustworthy rat catchers, to capture these two rodents alive before they leave the capital and bring them to me. You will be well rewarded for your efforts.
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>>4761526
>Haha, I was just joking about all that.
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>>4761526
What? Why would we want the people catching the rats to cook them? No we get like, shitty orphans to do that. You never mix the jobs. Damn Tyrion I thought you were smart.

>Oh shit, I thought these were regular rat catchers, not the special ones.

>>4761529
Delicious.
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>>4761526
>>Flirt with the redhead
>>
What the fuck is going on?
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>i thought my self insert quest would allow all my shit decisions
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>>4761551
Anons being purposefully retarded
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>>4761555
>giving up the very first second there is pushback
>giving up at all
Loser logic
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>>4761526
>>Oh shit, I thought these were regular rat catchers, not the special ones.
God dammit uncle why didnt you tell me?
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>>4761526
>Very soon, a mother rat and her sickly pup will be attempting to scurry away from King's Landing under the guise of being great, blue birds, after having spread their disease at the Red Keep. I need you, my trustworthy rat catchers, to capture these two rodents alive before they leave the capital and bring them to me. You will be well rewarded for your efforts.

>>4761576
Were we memeing or did we really want assassins? I thought what we originally told him had the underlying intent of asking for killers.

>>4761542
No just. No. Caught rats would be better put to use as fertilizer or something after being relatively sanitized.
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>>4761585
>No just. No. Caught rats would be better put to use as fertilizer or something after being relatively sanitized.
Only death can stop me, anon.
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>>4761585
I didnt see anything about assassins, I dont even know where they came from. I was just wanting to fix plumbing and make rat burgers
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>>4761585
the implication I got was spies, not assassins
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>>4761526
>>4761585
+1 untill m'lord directs me otherwise
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>>4761526
>>Oh shit, I thought these were regular rat catchers, not the special ones.
>>Haha, I was just joking about all that.

>>No no, I wanted to capture Arryn's wife
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I misunderstood the prompt. I thought we were going to hire actual cooks for that, as a legit façade to our enterprise.
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>>4761606
Same, but this is funny so it's ok.
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>>4761609
True, it was a very stupid thing to do. But that would fit Elsweyr's character perfectly.
>>4761526
>Oh shit, I thought these were regular rat catchers, not the special ones.
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>>4761595
did . . .did you read any of the updates??????
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>>4761526
Awesome. Well done.

>Flirt with the redhead. Refuse to answer any of their questions. Just mumble, "y-you too" to their questions and pull the wench aside by the arm like in my k-dramas.
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>>4761617
He is one of the Gendry cheerleaders, so almost certainly not.
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>>4761617
I was too high to notice
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>>4761619
>>4761526
changing muh vote to this
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>>4761526
>Play the Confidence game; if I order you to skin and cook a 'rat' alive, I expect it to be done to my satisfaction, regardless of how insane the premise is. Is that understood?
>I've got a job for you all. A mother rat...
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>>4761526

Backing this >>4761619
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>>4761640
samefag
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>>4761637
This actually makes sense.

>>4761526
Changing from >>4761576
to>>4761637
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>>4761606
>>4761609
I think we all thought that we'd bring it up later when it was more appropriate, not when we're dealing with professionals.
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>>4761637
this
kek in for a brass in for dragon
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>>4761641
Nope. I'm just not at home. This is ID is mine. >>4757266
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>>4761637
+1
If the second line means the "Stop Lysa" option from the last vote.
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>>4761655
Yes, it does. I didn't want to type the whole damn thing atm.
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>>4761606
This
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>>4761637
Backing this

Sandor is around isn’t he...? Nudge him to stare the loud mouth down
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>>4761526
>>Other (write-in)
Perhaps the stupidity here can be averted, we need only donate the rats to soup kitchens wtf anons
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>>4761661
No, we'd need to stare the man down ourselves. If they don't respect us personally, they wouldn't follow our orders to the letter, if need be.
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>>4761641
>maybe if I call people samefags people will laugh at me less for this stupid fucking idea

Just back my write-in. There is no reason not to at this point.
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>>4761664
>implying the bowls of brown don't already have rat in them
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>>4761668
Or you can back mine, and I'll back yours after we resolve this minor crisis. That cool with you?
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>>4761664
I think it's more fun to roll with it now. At least that would be keeping it IC.
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>>4761672
>headpat/gendry voter

You need to have at least one intelligent thought at some point if you want me to back attempts to clean up hillarious fuck ups like this.
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>>4761678
>caring about previous votes

Hey anon, atleast I offered to help you out. Looks like we'll be getting the usual waifus now.
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>>4761678
Have faith
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>>4761637
+1
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Why would the rat catchers guild be making rat burgers fucks sake
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>>4761685
Bro he's an absolutist. You can't reason with him. Only do things to mock him and spite him.
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>>4761694
who knows~
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Wait so Tyrion did hire these guys to do shit like kidnap people?
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>>4761694
Gotta do something with them after catching them
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>>4761706
Okay now you're doing it on purpose.
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>>4761694
Solve two problem at once diseases and famine.
sure 1 or 20 people might die from food posioning but thats acceptable casualitys
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>>4761606
Same.

>>4761637
>>4761526
Support.
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>>4761706
. . . subtlety is IMPOSSIBLE to do properly in quests I guess, noted
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>>4761721
Ironic.
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>>4761721
desu? i thought we were gonna hunt actual rats to actually clean the place up. seems im not the only one, so shouldn't that reflect of joffrey's reaction?
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>>4761595
>>4761601
>>4761606
>>4761726
QM these 4 are all voting for this write-in >>4761678 with their posts. They are deep in character.
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>>4761732
... this one >>4761619

The others as well for genuinely wanting to cook sewer rats to make money as a crown prince.
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>>4761726
Tyrion cocks his head at your suggestion. “Rat catcher's guild?” he repeats, curious as to your meaning.

“Yes – a group of men tasked with catching and killing the many rodents squeaking underfoot throughout the city. Rats are flea-ridden, foul-smelling, vermin, rife with disease and plague. If we could establish an auxiliary to the gold cloaks focused on their removal in the name of sanitation – mayhaps we attract these individuals to join by paying them a bounty of one copper penny per rat they manage to capture and slay – we could reduce the population considerably.”

Tyrion furrows his brow and ruminates on what you've just said. “Not a half bad plan, nephew. But what sort of man would want to join such a disgusting profession.”

You smirk at the Imp. “The sort not afraid of getting their hands dirty like ourselves, nuncle – accustomed to the seedier underbelly of King's Landing, willing to slither their way into whatever cracks they must to catch their quarries wherever they lair, good at skulking about undetected, setting traps for their targets, outwitting their prey in allegiance to the promise of coin. They would need to carry arms, naturally – daggers and the like for slitting throats or piercing skulls, lest these desperate small folk wish to sully their hands, personally wringing the necks of the rats we send them out to find and quell. Do you comprehend my meaning?”

Tyrion narrows his eyes. “I believe I might, Your Grace. This rat catcher's guild would answer solely to us, I'd presume?”

“Exactly,” you confirm. “It would all be done in the name of sanitation and thus falls under your purview, Chief Architect.”

The dwarf chortles. “A considerable gamble indeed. Very well, Your Grace.


You are either

1) Autistic
2) ESL
3) Low IQ
4) Didn't read this/skimmed it/hurr durr i forgot cuz my memory sucks
5) Some combination of the four above
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>>4761743
you didn't put retard for an option, I find this personally offense.
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>>4761732
Yes, I do agree that >>4761678 is indeed samefagging. Shame on him.
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>>4761732
>>4761742
>can't even link his bullshit properly
Amazing.
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>>4761526
>Oh shit, I thought these were regular rat catchers, not the special ones
.>Haha, I was just joking about all that.
and then whisper
>Fuck you Tyrion, it's a good idea. These faggots should be happy I'm including them in this amazing business venture.
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>>4761747
Nah man, I'll give him the credit he's due. He definitely picked the samefag both times.
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>>4761743
I wanna be a slobbering spastic
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>>4761743
So, are the 'ratcatchers' actual killers or not? I still don't get it. Will they do our dirty work for us like kidnap Lysa or do they just want to catch real rats?
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>>4761755
Just assume real killers and let's get this overs with. We got others for slaughtering rats.
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>>4761753
kek
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>>4761743
i think quoting me like that is needlessly mean. i'm not the brightest bulb in the house, but i did try to be honest to make things better for everyone. i didnt know op was such an asshat.
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>>4761755
ESL-san, please. The rat catchers catch our designated rats, they're killers and kidnappers.

>>4761762
>ifonlyyouknew.jpg
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>>4761534
>>4761541
>>4761603

Just a joke

>>4761534
>>4761585
>>4761602
>>4761603
>>4761637
>>4761646
>>4761655
>>4761690
>>4761720

Kidnap Lysa Arryn

>>4761542
>>4761603
>>4761611
>>4761748

I thought these were regular rat catchers

>>4761545
>>4761619
>>4761627
>>4761640

Flirt with the redhead

>>4761637
>>4761646
>>4761655
>>4761690
>>4761720

Play the confidence game

>>4761664
Donate to soup kitchens

>>4761748
Fuck you Tyrion


>>4761762
Man, I'm not trying to ruin your day, but like, c'mon man
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>>4761769
can't let you be an asshole for free. im out. have fun everyone
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>>4761779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWRaAF6_WY
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>>4761779
Ahhh, c'mon, it's okay, stay around and keep participating it. Next thread starts soon and no one will know who you were.
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>>4761779
>>4761783
truly the boogeyman of /qst/
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>>4761779
;_;

>>4761783
How could you?
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>>4761783
bad qm
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>>4761783
ok
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>>4761807
For being such a good sport I'll give you a fate point.
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>>4761811
Lmao.
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>>4761811
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>>4761811
must you grant such power so loose cunnyly?!
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>>4761811
I mean by this logic I should have enough fate points to one shot the Great Other.
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>>4761821
that's not fair.

Your outlook/world view/skateboarding skills is precisely what helped generate our character.

This whole quest is one giant fate point where you're concerned.
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>>4761811
what about myrcella coming back? too retarded? what do you guys think? i don't remember if shes coming back from casterly rock anyway
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>>4761829
use it to make gendry want his birthright :^)
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>>4761829
She comes back in canon fairly soon, it would be a waste.
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>>4761829
She comes back along with Cersei and Tommen on the trip north. Suggestion: ask the QM for the limits of using the fate point. Last guy spent his on killing Gendry and we don't know yet if he's wasted that point or not.
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>>4761831
ok, ill hang on it for now
>>4761830
i don't even remember the series that well but wouldn't that end up in a bloodbath?
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>>4761834
maaaaaaybe~
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>>4761830
Hey man you can't force him to burn his fate point. He can use it however he wants.

And I will mock him for it no matter what he chooses. As should everyone else.
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Oh fuck you're this guy >>4751048
Now I'm scared.
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>>4761834
Have a hammer fall on Stannis' head
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>>4761841
Or have Lysa kiss Petyr in full view of every inhabitant of the Red Keep.
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Nullify the previous guy's fate point and save Gendry :^)
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>>4761811
Awww!

What are the limits of a Fate point btw?
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>>4761842
>wasting it on something so inconsequential when you could use it to make varys grow a full head of hair instead
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Make the rat burgers seem like a sanitary and brilliant idea.

Make Dany come to us of her own accord.
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>>4761852
>spoiler
Based.

>>4761848
Varys isn't even bald. He shaves his head every night to hide the fact that his hair is silver grey.
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>>4761839
i don't think it would be fun it that doesn't flow naturally, so i wont ask for that. ill wait until theres something that we all want but cant get

>>4761836
well im out of tears already lol
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This was obviously because gendry fags are being spiteful cunts whatever this is stupid you autistic faggots deserve each other
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>>4761854
based wise blackman appreciating anon
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>>4761854
>something that we all want but cant get
I'd say that my suggestion >>4761842 here would be well received considering the previous vote
see >>4761769 (9 votes for Kidnap Lysa Arryn)
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>>4761854
Fair. I'm not here to pressure you, you do you. I'm just here to throw out ideas mate.
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>>4761854
>ill wait until theres something that we all want but cant get
Mm, happiness.
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I'll throw in my bit for the use of the fate point, don't know if QM allows it:

Have Jorah turn up to King's Landing with Daenerys and Viserys in chains and ask for his pardon. Perfectly plausible, no nonsense, saves thousands of lives, isn't retarded like the last plan involving Dany. Eliminates one of the biggest threats to us later without shedding a single drop of blood (by us). Robert can decide what to do with them then, and we'll only be able to influence that decision in a limited manner. (So no sex slave Dany tomfoolery)
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>>4761842
Or have Varys fuck up in some way that'll expose him.

Make us the actual Chosen One?

Turn us into a warg and take Bran's place as a non-cripple.
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>>4761871
You had me until you didn't. And I bet you know when that was!
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>>4761873
Well Robert is destined to die soon, so... I bet if Jorah turns up the next day in-Quest Jon Arryn won't let Robert execute Dany
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>>4761873
We lied straight to the king's face about his foster father's wife >>4760089 He would be furious if he found out. Having Lysa Arryn kiss Petyr Baelish while everyone's watching would give some credence to our argument and probably save our asses.
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>>4761871
Not a bad idea. As an added bonus, it'll make IC Elsweyr freak the fuck out at non-canon events happening without direct interference.
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>>4761753
>>4761759
>samefagging

You're sure about that? It'd be kind of embarassing if you were accusing people of samefagging just because that idea backfired as it should have.
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>>4761917
Did your fweelings get hurt? I never accused anyone. Get out my face ya damn inbred turnip.
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>>4761854
Anon I'll ask you to consider this once at least: >>4761871

Rest it's your choice of course.
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You confidently smirk at the lot of them, willing yourself not to blush a bright, embarrassing crimson at how autistic you must have come off there to seriously suggest to a room full of cutthroats, thieves, killers, rapers, kidnappers, hedge mages, seductresses, lowlifes, thugs, hunters and all around bad dudes that the Crown Prince called them all here under the dubiously false pretenses of simply killing rats just to ask them to help start up the medieval equivalent of McDonalds for some extra cash neither you nor Tyrion probably need considering how rich your family is.

Instead, you decide to play the confidence game and have them all eating out of the palms of your hands again – but they certainly won't be eating rat burgers tonight!

“If I order you to skin and cook a rat alive and sell it on the street so some urchin can fill his belly that night, I expect it to be done to my satisfaction and standards, regardless of how insane or inhumane the premise sounds to any of you. Is that understood, Ormly?”

You focus your gaze on the surly one, staring him down with sadistic glee painted onto your features as you make him feel autistic for failing to pick up on the subtle, implied, sub textual, nonexistent cues that you weren't at all employing in your earlier speech. He grumbles about the miscommunication under his breath and sits back down with egg on his face while the rest of his fellows chuckle at his obvious blunder.

Tyrion, however, stares at the side of your head with an expression somewhere betwixt horror and unease at your ruthlessly psychopathic heel turn from silly, idiotic child to the sort of monster that feeds people to other people.

“Now as for your first assignment catching vermin, I've got an important job,” you begin instructing them. “Very soon, a mother rat and her sickly pup will attempt to scurry away from King's Landing under the guise of being great, blue birds, after having spread their disease at the Red Keep. I need you, my trustworthy rat catchers, to capture these two rodents alive before they leave the capital and bring them to me. You will be well rewarded for your efforts.”

You pull out the the pouch of gold dragons you won off Tyrion and heft it in one hand so the coinage inside clinks together with a satisfying shake.

The quintet of seedy characters exchange serious looks withone another before silently coming to a unanimous decision, giving you nods of assent to the task you've just doled out for them to complete.

One by one, they stand up and perform one last bow each, muttering a “Your Grace” or something approximating your actual title before taking their leave of guild headquarters, heading out to do your bidding.

You are eventually left alone with Tyrion, the dwarf still staring intently at you in your newfound privacy.
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You sigh out. “Seriously though, nuncle,” you opine, “I think this rat meat idea is an amazing business venture for the guild's potential profits. If we could hire some of the local pot boys or maybe a few of the regular rat catchers that don't quite meet the criteria of becoming one of our more specialized guild members to handle the grisly nature of preparing the food, the small folk may very well fall in love with our rat burg-

“How is Lysa Arryn a threat to our family?” Tyrion cuts you off while simultaneously cutting straight to the heart of the matter, his voice deadly serious.

>I need you to trust me on this Tyrion – she is. All will be revealed in due time. I told you – the risk is borne of necessity.
>She's planning to kill her husband, the Hand of the King and then blame our family for it to start a war.
>Tyrion . . . you know your older siblings well . . . when you look at me, you must know who my real father is.
>Other (write-in)
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>>4761944
>to a room full of cutthroats, thieves, killers, rapers, kidnappers, hedge mages, seductresses, lowlifes, thugs, hunters and all around bad dudes
There's only five of them. Jesus.
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>>4761946
>She's planning to kill her husband, the Hand of the King and then blame our family for it to start a war.
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>>4761946
She's planning to kill her husband, the Hand of the King and then blame our family for it to start a war.
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>>4761948
He might ask why we're allowing Jon Arryn to die before exposing this right now.
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>>4761954
We told Robert and he ordered us not to say anything.
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>Certain fingers has his hands in every pie within the Vale.
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>>4761946
>I need you to trust me on this Tyrion – she is. All will be revealed in due time. I told you – the risk is borne of necessity.

I don't mind telling him, but we'll have to come up with something more reasonable instead of 'I read it in a book about the future'.
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>>4761946
if we tell tyrion that lysa is planning to littlefinger her husband we damn better have a way to back it up with solid proof- unless we actually want tyrion flipping his shit lol
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>>4761946
>She's planning to kill her husband, the Hand of the King and then blame our family for it to start a war.
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>>4761946
>Other (write-in)
"You tell me nuncle. Just look at me. Don't think I didn't notice your wariness when I'm near you."
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>>4761946
>Write-In: "I have my own spies." then explain what lilfingers gets out of this
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>>4761946
You can't run from the ratburgers forever, Tyrion!
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>>4761946
>Tyrion . . . you know your older siblings well . . . when you look at me, you must know who my real father is.

>>4761917
They've never been wrong before, anon.
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>>4761972
Support.

Although it may be a bad idea making up spies that don’t exist. May change my vote if I see something better I like.
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>>4761982
the fence sitting voter, willing to bend and change his vote at the slightest breeze.

You've a spine made of jelly and a brain made of farts
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>>4761958
+1. Later we can tell him we saw Lysa and Baelish kissing, but dad had sworn us to silence, so we couldn't say.

Also assure him we're not going to boil any women and children and feed them to the poor, that was just a way to cover our blunder. We'll try to be more careful in the future.
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>>4761984
>qm's response to people who change their votes
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>>4761947
Some of them multiclass anon.

>>4761946
>Other (write-in)
There are fingers in almost every pie, and the blueberry pie has littlefingers in hers.
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>>4761992
>Some of them multiclass anon.
>I'm a fifth level rapist and a third level murderer, thinking about picking up a level or two in embezzler but it might not be worth the effort
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>>4761606
+1
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>>4761946
Explain to Tyrion about Baelish spreading rumours about our parentage, how we cut that off by telling Bobby about Baelish and Lysa, and destroying evidence and Gendry, how Baelish is seeing Lysa how Baelish’s next move will be to get rid of Arryn and use Lysa/Robin as a power base to become lord of the vale in all but name.

Add Bobby would replace Jon with Ned who’s sister to Lysa giving Baelish more influence. And Baelish can only do this with Jon out of the way.
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>>4761948
changing my vote to >>4762007
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>>4761996
>You need to pick up a level or two in serial killing mate, to give yourself some versatility.
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>>4761946
>>4762007
thirding planon here
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>>4762007
Fuck it, this actually. Hopefully our lawyerly rhetorical skills are enough to make this absurd foresight convincing.
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>>4762007
>reveal our whole hand

And how do we explain how we came by all this info? How we knew about Gendry and the book alone will mystify him, and he's a skeptical son of a bitch.
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>>4762022
Rhaella Targaryen was Robert's grandmother. We inherited dragon dreams.
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>>4762026
Rhaelle
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>>4762007
man im all for this but like >>4762022 just said, you need to /explain/ all this shit. my vote was to bullshit we have spies, but maybe there's a better way to explain all that deal-sealing bullshit to poor lil imp
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>>4762028
I mean, you could fate point it.
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>>4762028
Anon since you're here I'll once again draw your attention to this suggestion of mine for spending that fate point - >>4761871

Sorry for being annoying.
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>>4762029
or we could use our brains and save the fateqm point for something that would take an actual miracle

>>4762030
i see only one other anon supporting that one, and even though i think its a good idea it also seems like a hassle to write; something like that would impact way too many things at once. what do you other anons think?
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>>4762032
>something that would take an actual miracle
What, taming a dragon?

Finding a decent waifu?

Growing past the age of sixteen?

Learning why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?
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>>4762026
That would only work if he wasn't an intelligent skeptic and if he doesn't know of our true parentage. We're going to need to explain ourselves in a believable
manner, otherwise we fuck up our relationship.

>>4762029
I'm sorry, I don't feel comfortable getting into a situation that forces that anon's Fate point to be used against his wishes. He should decide how he spends it, not we.

>>4762030
Why not endeavor to be the Fate you wish to see in the world? i.e. Make the QM feel you deserve it.
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>>4762032
I'm fine with it if you are, anon. Let's just make sure they both don't die straight up though.

Also, da eggs.

>>4762034
>silly anon, tricks are for kids!
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>>silly anon, tricks are for kids!
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>>4762034
>What, taming a dragon?
now you are thinking with portals. im sure the time will come. for now ill just tripfag until we spend it.

>>4762037
ill wait for the others anons. when most of us agree, ill spend it
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>>4762032
>or we could use our brains
You start anon. How do we sell this shit to Tyrion? Remember that elsewyr is a lawyer and shit, so we can use his persuasive speaking skills.
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>>4762041
I'm just saying anyone who actually does want a dragon is probably low test. Food for thought.
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>>4762045
my idea was 'spies told me' which could well be retarded and backfire somehow, i mean i couldnt even tell that the rat catcher guild was meant to be a pmc. i think we need another brain lol
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>>4762045
>implying Elsewyr was any good

Remember how this quest started lads. Does that sound like a successful, competent lawyer?
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>>4762056
>use fate point to become a secret Targaryen

Atleast we won't get burned by all this wildfire we're playing with.
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>>4761951
>>4761962
She's planning to kill her husband, the Hand of the King and then blame our family for it to start a war

>>4761957
>>4761992

Littlefinger Pie

>>4761958
>>4761986

Source: Dude, Trust Me

>>4761966
This write-in

>>4761972
>>4761982

I got spies

>>4761976
You know who my father is


>>4762007
>>4762009
>>4762012
>>4762014

Blah blah blah

Looks to me like blah blah blah wins, anons!
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>>4762061
Why don't you want matching scars with ya boi Sandor?
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>>4762058
You're not helping us, anon. Elsewyr is the best lawyer in the US. He's the guy who got OJ off.
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>>4762062
If nothing else when blah, blah, blah comes true, Tyrion’s mind will be blown.
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>>4762064
Holy shit.
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>>4762075
kek.
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>>4762064
I can only hope so, because otherwise >>4762075 is correct, for good or ill.

Just... wtf anons.
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>>4762086
Wouldn't be a problem if they'd have doubled down on the ratburgers.
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>>4762089
One of these days we'll spend a fate point to get McRatz off the ground anon. Just not this day.
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>>4762090
Hell yeah brother.
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>>4761946
>She's planning to kill her husband, the Hand of the King and then blame our family for it to start a war.
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>>4762075
lmao
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Could the fate point be used to create black powder weapons? (I just want to see canons vs dragons man)
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>>4762599
I hate this idea. Guns in fantasy is so jarring to me.
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>>4762599
I guess a mad man in Essos could come up with it. Doesn't mean we'll reap the benefits in our lifetime. New technology takes forever to propagate in a feudal society, and you'd be getting the proto-version of it, with all its mistakes and flaws, instead of the one your imagining.
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>>4762599
You'd have better luck hitting a dragon with a trebuchet than a cannon.
For black powder weapons verticality just ain't.
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>>4762599
Easier to use our wildfire stash with weapons we already have like catapults, mangonels or trebuchets. Ballistae are probably the closest we’ll get to cannons without Qyburn or another forward thinking technophile
>>4761258
Me btw.
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>>4762653
I wonder how feasible it would be to invent something like an organ gun firing ballista bolts, say volley fire launching 12 bolts at a time
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We need to create a ship with a spinal mounted ballistae. We will threaten cities with payloads of wildfire launched from over a mile away. We will call this weapon "Wooden Gear". A weapon that will threaten world peace.
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>>4762674
No no no. Tin Gear
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>>4762670
A hwacha
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>>4762674
Iron Clads when?
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>>4762670
I like the idea of wildfire grenades used by rank-and-file, I.e small clay pots or jars which when thrown are effectively Greek Fire. Easy enough to implement, we’d just have to prepare it and arm the lads without burning the city down
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>>4762599
Actually If you know where a dragon is going to land you could probably just put a metric fuck ton of black powder there ahead of time. However, the problem remains that black powder and gunpowder are a bit tame when it comes to explosives. They become common because they're controllable and easily transported dusts; just bin it with cloth or barrel them and go.

If we have the knowledge of each and basic chemical separation the better thing is nitroglycerin and then its combination with diatomaceous earth, which I only just learned is ridiculously common almost everywhere in the world near fresh water river sources. Those both are actually possible to create in usable amounts with even 1300's "alchemy" equipment and the basic chemical/substances knowledge. Basically because soapmakers exist then dynamite is just a couple experiments away. The nitroglycerin reduction is so simple to make with such common alchemy ingredients that you've got a greater than 80% chance of ruining your lab equipment in the first five tries, because it's too easy to create. All the conventional logistic problems with storage and mass manufacture that are inherent to a negligent and ignorant populace are still there, though. It would not be possible to produce in tonns quantities without great expense and teams working under however few alchemists actually exist in King's Landing. The original reaction was just considered a mistake to avoid until a well known fellow put it to better use. The greater problem is that the glycerin agent is far more volatile than wildfire when it comes to movement and sunlight, so any amount of worth would require relatively close on-site combining with its diatomaceous stabilizer. Once stabilized it can detonate while wet though, so that's cute. True blasting caps might not be feasible so if we'd want it for war or mining in any fashion then somebody's holding a torch while laying down a dust path.

It's actually possible, but explosives of these grades are only useful if we already have a plan with them, if not mining. Meanwhile, something like black/gunpowder sourcing and metallurgy limitations makes guns just fuckin' way too complex and time sucking to get off the ground. So we do at least have the capacity it put a cap on any siege battles and obsolete walls and large scale siege weaponry if we're willing to invest the time in some basic chemistry.

>>4762717
I recall suggesting that idea last thread, too. I feel like it's worth trying just to see the transportation limits of wildfire. In the books it's made out to be too risky for that. Alternatively, I had an absolutely awful idea during my forty minutes of research: attempt to stabilize wildfire with common diatomaceous earth.
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>>4762674
Kek

>>4762717
A little too risky i imagine
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>>4762680
Neato, but I'm talking about without the use of gunpowder
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Lets just recruit the wildlings for their giants, giants armed with crossbows will wreck dany's dragons
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>>4762750
Polybolos
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>>4762744
>diatomaceous earth
Nice! Sounds plausible to me, we could conduct that experiment ourselves (purely supervising, of course) and see how it goes. I think the benefits would far outweigh the risks if we consider that the Others will eventually be a threat regardless of how our actions in KL turn out.
>>4762747
You probably said the same about McRats anon, fortune favours the bold
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>>4762717
Problem is storage and proper maintenance. You'll never create a functional wildfire grenede in time for it to be useful, let alone find a way to properly store and maintain it in the field.
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>>4762807
>rat burgers on a wildfire grill

Now we're thinking with portals.
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>>4762898
>storage
They are inert when in pots, are they not? Also as long as they are carefully stored away from activity then it should be safe, through transport is something that needs addressing as previously discussed
>maintenance
How would they need maintaining? Do you mean the containers?
>functional
As I understand, wildfire works as a volatile liquid that needs little preparation to act as an incendiary. The proposed use would be just a clay jar containing the liquid, which when thrown and broken (thus exposing the liquid) will then catch fire. It’s basically an oil/fire combo but without the need of lighting anything first. Happy to be corrected if I’m wildly (heh) misinformed
>>4762909
This alone is worth the risk of burning KL
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>>4762056
if you mean low testosterone, then i dunno man, its a dragon.

>>4762599
i think >>4762615 has a good point there, even if we get cannons they'd be like the shittiest cannons ever. also >>4762632 trebuchets get the job done for now.
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>>4762915
Highly volatile is the problem here. How do we transport them safely while on the march? How do we store them without hazard in a war camp? How can we make sure the clay pots don't spontaneously combust on the soldiers while in use or on maneuvers?

These are not simple logistical problems anon. While I do agree that the physical and morale damage would be significant, it will not see wide use unless you accept the likelihood of high accidental casualties.
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>>4762982
>snuffy the grenadier trips and sets off a chain reaction immolating an entire formation
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>>4762982
>How do we transport them safely while on the march?
Wagons filled only a quarter of the way with it should be safe.

>How do we store them without hazard in a war camp?
In camp we spread them evenly out, and a minimum safe distance from any flammable material, so should one of them go up, it shouldn't spread easy and fast, and it wont ignite our entire camp.

>How can we make sure the clay pots don't spontaneously combust on the soldiers while in use or on maneuvers?
Make Tiny clay pots that hold only a little of the solution, with a wick protruding out the top so it can be lit when ready to throw.
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>>4762985
More like
>the wagon hit a particularly big bump and one of the pots cracked now the juice is igniting in the sunlight and the whole wagon explodes

Everyone's treating wildfire like napalm but I'd consider it incendiary nitroglycerin. Don't fuck with it.
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>>4763107
Wrap pots with bundles of cloth to dampen impacts?
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Fuck. I'm still suffering aftershocks from the pure, undiluted cringe of our ratburger proposal.
Dear God anons, please pull yourselves together.
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>>4763107
Basically. Although they do manage to get it on board a ship without detonating, so it's slightly more stable and oxygen resistant than the big nitro g. NG hates movement. Walk with a beaker five feet? Fine. But did you stop too quickly? Boom. Pick it up in a glass? Fine. Place it down and bump the table with your leg? Boom. It's such a stupid oil.

And that's why we should make NG and combine it with wildfire. This will mark the beginning of the era known as the cold war.

>>4763132
I think the means to more effective wildfire usage will probably be less conventional than what the alchemists guild already does.
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>>4763133
Essentially, all "hurf durf let's revolutionize Westeros" whether it be via guns, printing presses, food production, yadda yadda is autistic, irrelevant, nonsensically non-sequitur cringe that would take way too much time to accomplish considering the very short time frame that the ASOIAF timeline actually allows for with an impending invasion of white walkers and usually would not actually be that helpful for the protagonist.

Like, the idea of spending a whole quest just trying to make a gun when you could be advancing your own power, prestige, resources, influence or whatever is not only fucking boring as shit to write, read and participate in but its also just, OBJECTIVELY, not gonna do shit or be helpful.
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>>4763151
P much
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>>4763151
Dynamite is plenty easy tho. If we can't blow shit up what's the point of modern knowledge? Next time on King's Landing Lannister Antics Day Series: Splitting the Atom and Duck & Cover! Find out whether the Night King will ever know what happened to those ten zombies or if the alchemists get their fingers back!
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>>4763151
Pretty much agreed. I'm okay with reasonable innovations like improving sanitation, but there's some wildly retarded ideas being thrown around, and qm, bless his heart, is playing the consequences of them completely straight. It's making Joffrey oscillate between boy genius and drooling retard.
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>>4763151
I won't stop.
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>>4763151
Good, I like the idea of exploiting modern knowledge, like -lets steal some tv quotes to make us sound clever, tactics we've seen in pop culture, a full of industrial revolution renders the setting redundant.
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>>4763165
>what's the point of modern knowledge?

This has never been a "modern knowledge genius dropped into medieval fantasy land" quest.

This has always been a "meta-knowledge possessing ASOIAF nerd dropped into ASOIAF" quest.

First of all, 90 percent of you niggas dropped into fucking medieval England wouldn't do or invent 1 percent of the shit you talk about doing because you don't actually know how without references and for the small amount of shit you could invent you would be fucking burnt at the stake for being a sorcerer or just no one would listen to your dog ass.

Second of all, Elsweyr is a skateboarder so if you'd like to introduce anything to Westeros it should be the skateboard. There you go, that's how you can use your modern knowledge.

Third of all, this reminds me of that fucking copy pasta about a tabletop game where instead of fighting the evil lich, the party goes about instituting Gay marriage into law and then once they succeed the evil lich shows up and kills everybody.

Right now, guns are your gay marriage and the White Walkers are the evil lich that doesn't give a shit because an army of zombies isn't going to be stopped by muskets.
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>>4763186
Earthen mixtures to reduce potency of flammables is a modern-chem idea, but it boils down to pouring the correct inert earths in irritable substances like magic green campfire starter. That's just trial and error through tossing an alchemist at the task and moonwalking to gay marriage with Loras away.
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>>4763186
Like I get what you're saying, and skateboarding is a pretty good idea, but the logistical limitations on carpentry and the smithing required for correct board axles that exist in even large cities will make sourcing the talent relatively difficult. If we do introduce this idea can you promise we'll get to Tony Hawk our way around the Red Keep? And even then how could we possibly spend so much time on skateboards with a kingdom to rule? Much better to work on a tactical neutron bomb and horse maneuvered multiangle launch vehicle.
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>>4763165
>Dynamite is plenty easy tho.

I'll give you a week to go make a stick of dynamite using only the information in your head
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>>4763186
I don't see how dropping someone into the medieval period is an apt comparison. What with that scenario requiring the dropee to overcome anywhere between 500-1500 years of language drift depending on the exact period. Something that was hand-waived here.

>inb4 some bullshit narrative blah blah unfun smoothing excuse
Don't get into autistic arguments. You should know by now that neither side ever wins.
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>>4763218
In this case, you are literally inhabiting the brain and body of someone from the era, so that is enough of a hand wave for understanding the language.

But yeah, in reality, being dropped into fantasy land (without a comprehend languages spell) would suck due to linguistics.
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>>4763217
That's not fair because even though I actually have that knowledge already I don't have the equipment and I'm not a King. I do have a friend with a home lab and the appropriate licensure, but they do fireworks and teach AP Org. Chem.

It's a good point for our MC though. Elly studied law and not sciences. An unspecialized lawyer wouldn't have the ability to carry out basic chemistry.
I will insist that attempting to stabilize the potency of wildfire with modern common sense is fair, at least.

>>4763222
I have half of this memorized just in case I get time vored.
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>>4763208
finally something we can/should actually make happen
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>>4763231
>That's not fair because

Then fuck off with your nonsense
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>>4763252
ruude
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>>4763220
But Joff's brain doesn't have Joff's memories, it has Elsy's. His mouth would know how to talk but his brain would be trying to say things completely differently. He would hear sounds that are foreign to him. We know that we don't have Joff's memories, and speech is taught. Even simplistic animals have to learn their respective social cues.

Muscle memory would stay but brain gains go away. Unless we do know literally everything Joff does + what Elsy does. But it has been narratively established that we don't.


The autism can't be stopped QM.
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Ooh boy, this is going to be a doozy to explain. Well, you suppose if there's anyone you can trust at this point with the exposition you're about to dump it's probably Tyrion Lannister – little nigguh is loyal to a fault until he finds out his wife Tysha that Tywin had raped wasn't a whore. You meet the Imp's calculating, mismatched stare with an equally calculating one of your own, silence reigning in the Rat Catcher Guild Headquarters for several seconds as you think, save for the intermittent squeaking of cheese-seeking vermin.

Then, you begin to bullshit the dwarf harder than Gendry with diarrhea.

“Just before my nameday, I overheard the Master of Coin spreading ill rumors of my . . . parentage,” you reveal, “to the Master of Ships who then shared them with the Hand of the King.”

Tyrion raises an eyebrow. “What rumors would those be, nephew?”

“That my blonde hair and emerald eyes come not solely from my mother the Queen but that I also take after my uncle Jaime in coloring more so than my own father, The King.”

You can see it on his face – the lack of outrage or disbelief or surprise. He already knows it to be the truth, but he pays you the courtesy of not confirming it aloud. “Considering how alike you all look to Cersei and she to Jaime, being her twin,” he reasons, “I suppose this rumor extends to your younger siblings as well?”

You can hear the concern for them in his voice and seize upon it. “Yes, nuncle. Littlefinger whispers poison about sweet Myrcella and innocent, little Tommen as well. It is not merely for my own sake that I now act, but for theirs as well; it is an elder brother's duty to protect his brothers and sisters from harm: what act shouldn't I do to keep them safe?”

He gives you a solemn nod of understanding. “Which is why you made that spectacle of following in your father's footsteps as a warrior, bet against Jaime in the joust and refused to go to Casterly Rock with the rest of the family,” Tyrion succinctly lists, piecing it all together.

“That's not all,” you inform him, “I tossed a tome of lineages from Grand Maester Pycelle's chambers into my hearth, burning it so it couldn't be used as evidence in favor of the claim. And I attempted to hide one of my father's bastards right under their noses as a blacksmith's apprentice in the Royal armory, but unfortunately Stannis and Jon Arryn discovered him.”

“If only you had tossed the bastard into your hearth to burn as well,” he pithily critiques.

You shrug. “Mayhaps, but even I balk at behaving that cruelly towards an innocent commoner.”

“Yet you're more than comfortable with having Lysa Arryn and her sickly son kidnapped by the lowborn curs you asked me to collect,” Tyrion points out, referring to his original question which sparked this verbal spillage. “Is this merely for leverage over Jon so you might ensure his silence, Your Grace?”
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You shake your head. “No, I have no need to silence him. You see, I've been keeping eyes on Littlefinger since this began, considering he's the true source of the filth, Chief Architect of Sanitation. And what I've discovered may shock you. I caught him kissing Lady Lysa.”

Tyrion chuckles. “Horning one of the very men he's hoping will get rid of you – how lucky for us.”

“I thought so as well,” you tell the dwarf, “but when I revealed this secret to my father he told me to keep my mouth shut about it. Seemed to believe me, though. Lysa Arryn was good friends with Petyr Baelish during her girlhood and her influence on her husband is half the reason that minor lord is currently on the Small Council as the Master of Coin.”

Tyrion shrugs doubtfully. “Jon Arryn is also quite old, nephew – under normal circumstances, I'd assume his lady wife was simply finding her satisfaction with a man who could still keep it up. King Robert likely made the same assumption.”

“Well,” you ominously continue, “there is more than mere cuckoldry going on here, Tyrion. Littlefinger and Lady Arryn have conspired to poison the Hand of the King and then write to her sister – Lord Stark's wife in the North – that our family was responsible for his death.”

The littlest lion of Lannister looks alarmed by your revelation. “Why?”

“To cover the tracks of their own treachery,” you offer a possible explanation. “By doing it in the midst of Jon Arryn's investigation, Stannis will think either you or the Queen is responsible. My father will likely name his foster brother the new Hand of the King whose wife will tell him that the Lannisters killed his foster father, which the Northman will also more than likely believe. With so many people conspiring against our family, believing us the guilty party, Petyr and Lysa can safely abscond with all the power of the Vale, becoming the Lord and Lady of House Arryn in all but name, utilizing Sweetrobin as a puppet – which is also why they need to act very soon, before Jon Arryn can foster his only son and heir on Dragonstone as he has planned to do for some time now. Lysa Arryn is insanely overprotective of her child and clearly in love with the Master of Coin. The Lannisters will take the blame for Jon's death, all our heads may be chopped off if Stannis can convince my father we're bastards born of incest and Littlefinger becomes one of the most powerful men in Westeros.”

You nearly hyperventilate as you conclude your speech and Tyrion stares up at you, face scrunched up in thought.

“Even if what you say is true, nephew,” your uncle concedes the potential validity of your conspiracy, “what proof of these claims do you possess besides your own testimony?”
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You stiffen your spine, stand tall, and regard Tyrion coolly. “None whatsoever,” you honestly admit, before assuming a crooked, humorless smile. “Which is why I only told you this now, after it was already too late to stop it.”

Tyrion blinks rapidly. “Too late to stop what?”

Jon Arryn was poisoned last night.
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>>4763336
and hopefully that actually happened otherwise we'll look real sus
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>>4763336
well now that's one way to prove our shit lol
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>>4763344
>yfw by telling Bobert he went and talked to Jon and Jon was being distant to Lysa and escaped death by his scraggly ballhairs

Nah, fatty daddy wouldn't.
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>>4763331

Tyrion's either gonna think we're mad as a bag of ferrets or the smartest man in Westeros.
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>>4763336
Well at least we can’t blame the rat burgers for this one
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>>4763336
>“Jon Arryn was poisoned last night.”
Fuggg. I was not aware we were at that point in the timeline.
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>>4763336
Nice. Now should we let events play out?
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>>4763399
We need to have an idea what's we're going to do once we have Lysa & Robin in custody, how do we get a confession? We won't be able to keep them long. We also need to be able to explain why we've premeditated the kidnapping. If anybody asks we need to change the timeline so that we didn't instruct the kidnapping until after we found out about Arryn's death and a possible reason why is because we knew about the affair and that made her & Baelish prime suspects.
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Another tense silence ensues.

Tyrion gulps. “H-how do you –”

“The Hand of the King awoke this morning twisted over in pain, too sick to rise from his bed,” you interrupt your uncle with the facts you discovered earlier before you left with Tyrion for Flea Bottom. “Whatever Lysa Arrn poured into his supper, I doubt Jon Arryn will still be drawing breath by this time tomorrow. You can return to the Red Keep and check on him if you believe I'm bluffing right now.”

“You're letting an innocent man die?!” Tyrion angrily demands.

“I may be the Crown Prince, but I'm still just a twelve year old boy in my father's eyes, nuncle,” you remind him in a defeated tone. “The King ordered me to keep what I knew about their infidelity to myself, and with no proof of my claims, all I would do is delay their inevitable scheme and more than likely alert them that I'm a threat that needs dealing with. My only available option is this gamble for the fate of our family: catch Lysa Arryn before she can flee the capital, force her to confess to her part in murdering her husband, and see that Littlefinger is neutralized as a threat to our legacy.”

“It also doesn't hurt, I'm sure, that Jon Arryn is out of the picture in this version of events,” Tyrion wryly notes, “considering his suspicions.”

You lean forward, looming over Tyrion. “Considering how those suspicions of his, whatever their tainted source, puts Myrcella at risk? YES.” you tell him honestly in the most chad timbre you can possibly muster. “Are you bothered by that, nuncle?”

The Imp purses his lips, dwelling only momentarily on your question before voicing his answer. “No, I don't think I am, nephew. You brought me here to the capital to assist you in this endeavor, correct?”

You nod your head.

“Then leave what happens next with the Rat Catcher's Guild to me,” he offers. “I'll extract the necessary confessions from the murderess and the court may remain none the wiser as to your involvement, beyond your naive, childish decision to befriend the Imp of Casterly Rock and grant me any shred of power I could get my grubby, little mitts on. With any luck, our heads will still be attached to our shoulders by tomorrow night.”

>Trust Tyrion
>No, nuncle. I have to be there. I have much to speak with Lysa about.
>Other (write-in)
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>>4763427
Tyrion has always been good people.

Can you trust good people, anons?
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>>4763336
If Tyrion gets pissy about us letting Jon die, reiterate that Jon is on to us being an incest baby, and if we didn't let him die, we'd constantly be in danger. Tyrion should know that though.

Stannis seemed to think we were half-brothers with Gendry though so that should be fine.
>"More like.. Fraternity."
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>>4763427
>>Trust Tyrion

I know shadowrunning is a part of GOT, but Tyrion is smart and knows which side of his bread is buttered. Plus, if it all goes tits up. We can blame Tyrion.

Also point out to Tyrion that this could leave him very well liked by the King, and the Master of Coin position could soon be vacant.
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>>4763427
>Trust Tyrion

You got this mate.

Don't know if the other anons will want to talk with Lisa though.
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>>4763427
>>4763442
+1
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>>4763427
>Trust Tyrion
Also
>”Nuncle, If Lysa fails to relent, inform her that we have in our possession a book which proves the bastardry of Sweet Robin. Maester Pycelle will confirm the book in question, should she need to hear it. If she agrees to confess to the her and Littlefinger’s roles in the murder of the King’s Hand, and testifies to the embezzlement of funds by the Master of Coin, the King need not know of Robin’s true heritage.”
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>>4763427
>>Trust Tyrion
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>>4763427
>Trust Tyrion
i mean if he fucks us over he's fucking himself over
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>>4763452
Even if he would fuck us over, he'd be sentencing Tommen & Mycella & his bro Jamie to death, no way he's going to do it.
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Do not mention the book. We can have some plausible deniability if the old rat point to us for the book. We can point to Littlefinger afterwards.
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>>4763433
More like what would we even talk about with her? Unless we have a thing for redheads that is.
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>>4763462
>Unless we have a thing for redheads that is.
Have you seen half the motherfuckers in this piece? Wildin for some firepussy I swear on gaw
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>>4763442
Supporting
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>>4763427
>>Trust Tyrion

>>4763470
We should have flirted with the sexy red-headed ratcatcher but, alas, not enough coomers voted. Oh well, we shall stay pure for our inevitable move on Myrcella.
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Not that I have a better suggestion, but Tyrion will find out that we didn't see Lysa and Baelish kissing. Also Baelish may have told Stannis the rumour indirectly or somewhere he couldn't be overheard. Just some things to keep in mind.

Also that was terrible of you QM to hide the fact that the poisoning had already happened from the players. We could very well have set the ratcatchers to do another task or told them to wait for a few days, thinking we still had a few days because you haven't mentioned the number of days passing beyond vague statements.
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>>4763427
>Trust Tyrion
Give him some parting info.
>Other (write-in)
Is it safe to be talking so much in this place?
Rats are literally in the floorboards. Unless the ratkillers are outside keeping things secure for us...
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>>4763448
Support!!!!! Lysa a beeeeach
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>>4763513
I'm sure you lads will get you chance later.
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>>4763544
>your* chance later
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>>4763427
>>Trust Tyrion
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>>4763427
>Trust Tyrion

>>4763445
>>4763448
+2 to theeeessseeee!
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>>4763448
Do we even know definitively that Sweetrobin is a bastard, or are we blowing hot air here?
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>>4763569
Aside from that his birth coincides almost perfectly with Littlefinger's appointment as Master of Coin, no. We'd need that confession to lend weight to the circumstances.
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>Trust Tyrion
not because he won't betray us, but because he'll betray us with the best interests in mind. thats an ally there
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>>4763427
>Trust Tyrion
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>>4763427
>>Trust Tyrion
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>>4763517
>Also that was terrible of you QM to hide the fact that the poisoning had already happened from the players. We could very well have set the ratcatchers to do another task or told them to wait for a few days, thinking we still had a few days because you haven't mentioned the number of days passing beyond vague statements.

Yeah I made that the case because of the options you selected. If you hadn't, the poisoning wouldn't have occurred yet.

>Y-y-you can't do that!

Yes I can.
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>>4763699
this isn't railroading this is based
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>>4763699
>Yeah I made that the case because of the options you selected. If you hadn't, the poisoning wouldn't have occurred yet.
>>Y-y-you can't do that!
>Yes I can.
Nooooooooooooooo.
Ok
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>>4763427
>Trust Tyrion

I hope shit doesn’t get fucked up if he finds out that we lied about the kiss.
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Blame it on the hormones. Besides that is most likely the dirtiest thing Tyrion has ever done or heard.
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You know, I feel like we're about to get outplayed and cause the Vale to rebel
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>>4763749
inb4 sudden eunuch party time
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>>4763717
Your assuming that he'll trust Littlefinger's word over ours. Like, come on man.
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>>4763448
This is a good fucking write-in, btw.
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>>4763882
Dare you to vote for it then.
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My only worry is that mums going to take some action that interferes with our plan. Maybe we should let Tyrion know we told mother about the rumours?
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You smile and stick out a hand for him to take. “I knew I could count on you, nuncle.”

Tyrion grabs it with his stubby little fingers and squeezes, the two of you sharing a real moment together. “Just promise me you weren't actually the one who poisoned the Hand and this story isn't some fib you've spun to trick me.”

“I promise,” you assure him. “And If Lysa fails to relent for some reason, inform her that we have in our possession a tome which proves Sweet Robin is Littlefinger's bastard – Maester Pycelle will confirm its existence and that I have it in my possession, should she need to hear it. If she agrees to confess to her and Littlefinger’s roles in the murder of her husband, the King need not learn of Robert’s true heritage.”

Tyrion nods, impressed with your idea. “Excellent work, nephew,” he emphasizes, astounded by your genius ploy. “Turning the rumor of bastardry around on one of Littlefinger's loved ones to destroy him – it's so poetic I almost believe it worthy of song.”

“I'd cut out the throat of any man who sang it,” you jape. The two of you share a laugh and then exit the Rat Catcher's Guild, returning to Tyrion's wheelhouse where your dutiful Lannister guardsmen await to escort you both back to the Red Keep.

The return trip is short enough that the relatively tense silence lingering in the atmosphere betwixt you two in this enclosed rolling box doesn't become overwhelming.

Reaching the castle's interior around mid-afternoon, Sandor and yourself split off from the Chief Architect of Sanitation's train and walk nearby to the Tower of the Hand, politely inquiring for any updates on Jon's condition from some of his household servants, believing it would demonstrate a healthy level of courtesy expected of you as Crown Prince. You learn that Lord Arryn has regrettably continued to weaken since he woke this morning with what Maester Colemon apparently believed was a chill of the stomach. Grand Maester Pycelle has now stepped in and sent the Hand's personal maester away. It seems he's also been calling out the name 'Robert' and the King plans to visit Jon Arryn's bedside as soon as he can.

>Go visit Jon Arryn alone
>Enter the Tower of the Hand, look for the wine glass Lysa Arryn poisoned
>Ignore the Tower of the Hand, wait for everything to be over
>Go visit Jon Arryn with King Robert
>Other (write-in)
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im not voting on this one, im not ready for this trap
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>>4763937
just spend your fate point to avoid the trap =]
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>>4763928
>Ignore the Tower of the Hand, wait for everything to be over
Keep to our routine, pretend nothing's going on.
>>4763924
She's at Casterly Rock.
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>>4763943
nyet
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>>4763928
We should place some lackey to get regular updates on Jon Arryn's condition. Just before he's about to die, we should ask Pycelle to look for signs of poisoning. We suspect foul play. Simple enough message for a messenger to relay without needing to enter the Tower of the Hand. We on the other hand should keep an eye on Baelish and the Arryn household.
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>>4763928
>Ignore the Tower of the Hand, wait for everything to be over
let's research foreign cultures like the Summer Isles to improve trade relations, a start to expanding our trade routes to increase Westeros' GDP
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>>4763951
Use your fate point to switch the personalities of Sansa and Margaery just after we get married to Margaery. There you go, strongest kingdom allied, and most loyal wife acquired. A win win for both Sansafags and Margaeryfags, because I don't think anyone wanted Margaery for her personality.
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>>4763964
wise
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>>4763959
the problem with Westeros is its way too inward looking. Westeros is the only power that controls most of a continent to itself, we can use that to become a real power player in international politics, but not overnight.

>>4763964
book margaery isn't the manipulative bitch from the show. In the books she's just another one of Olenna's pawns, and like most of the Tyrells is actually reasonably dutiful and good hearted.

the whole idea that she's a manipulative slut is Cersei projecting and DnD being hack writers.
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>>4763699
Holy based.
>>4763928
>Ignore the Tower of the Hand, wait for everything to be over
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>>4763928
>Ignore the Tower of the Hand, wait for everything to be over
yep how would we know he is posioned
we just 12 year old boyo
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>>4763944
She is, but ravens are the telephones of Westeros.
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I kind of want to pimp Cersei out to Tyrion and Gendry once we have her under our thumb, as a 'fuck you' to her trying to have them both killed in canon.
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>>4763995
You are incomprehensibly retarded
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>>4764004
yeah, but I already knew that.

I like the idea of humiliating Cersei in every concievable way, make her fuck the dwarf and one of robert's bastards.
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>>4763928
>Go visit Jon Arryn with King Robert

I would love to talk to the man alone, but I want to make sure that when Bobby B visits, Jon doesn't spill da beans. Plus, Gendry's there, and we don't want the king to meet his bastard lads.
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>>4763995
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>>4763995
Kinda weird but okay.
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>>4763964
I still think the Dany idea is an interesting use of fate, but this is a smart idea regardless of whether we commit to it or not.
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>>4763928
>>Go visit Jon Arryn with King Robert
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>>4763928
>>Other (write-in)
Distract King Robert, asking for a personal tutoring session
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>>4763944
+1
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>>4763928
>Ignore the Tower of the Hand, wait for everything to be over
Also
>Pay Gendry a visit under the guise of checking on his condition, and subtly ask if anyone other than Maester Colemon has been to see him.
Hopefully Jon didn’t put 2 and 2 together by Gendry’s presence alone.

>>4763882
Thanks bro.
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>>4763944
>>4763959
>>4763974
>>4763976
>>4764090
>>4764097

Ignore

>>4764015
>>4764062

Visit with King Robert


>>4764075
Get yourself slapped upside the head
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>>4763186
Muskets with dragonglass or valyrian steel ammo.
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>>4764112
why?
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>>4764112
No, you fucking mong. Dragonglass sword that uses a musket as ammo.
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>>4764112
What if we get Dragonglass spearheads, daggers, and arrows? That would be more readily available.
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>>4764173
Dragonglass is a good plan, we know that fire is also effective if we can’t get hold of any on Dragonstone.

Plan Z - organise the Faith Militant if the Others get too close to comfort, arm them with torches and use wildfire however we can. Surely the dead coming back to life would constitute a holy war.
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>>4764187
fuck anything involving the faith militant
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>>4764191
Agreed, but fuck the Others more! This is a proposed apocalypse plan should we fail to get hold of dragonglass or the elusive Valyrian firearm >>4764112
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>>4764115
because volley fire against undead.
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dosen't it take like single strike with dragon glass to kill a WW like the force behind the strike dosen't matter you just have to hit and penetrate them and they die so wouldn't arrows be better for better rof?
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>>4764239
summer isle archers with dragonglass arrowheads are the way to go. goldenheart bows are the best bows in the world, and summer ialsnders are considered the best archers.
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>>4764255
Jalabhar Xho might be our best way of securing some Summer Isle archers, though he is in exile. Maybe he still has some supporters who he could call upon to work for us. If this is the case, we could inform him that we will support his claim to the Summer Islands (when Robert is gone) - he will be informed that in order to ensure our Westerosi troops and his Summer Islanders can mount an effective attack, we need to train side by side before we can risk an invasion.

Alternatively we could look into hiring Summer Islander mercenaries.
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>>4764294
I prefer the mercenaries idea so we don't get caught in an obligation we can't fulfill
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>>4764298
This would be where our knowledge comes in handy.
>”Jalabhar, a Lannister always pays his debts - the only thing keeping me from fulfilling my end of the bargain is this unforeseen Ironborn revolt/Targaryen threat/Incursion of Others/[insert crisis here]. As a fellow royal servant of the people I am confident that you understand one’s duty to the realm, once this unforeseen nuisance has been dealt with we can resume our business.”
If Jdog and his Merry men get through all of this alive then frankly he deserves his throne.
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>>4764306
if we prevent the war of five kings, do the ironborn still revolt?
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>>4764309
I’m thinking less about Balon and more if Euron turns up, and that guy is bad news.
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>>4763448
+1
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>>4763964
its a great idea. however im an asshole, and i want waifu wars lol
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>>4763964
>because I don't think anyone wanted Margaery for her personality.
There's nothing wrong with her personality, you dumb showfaggot.
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>>4764509
There's nothing right with it either hohohoho
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>>4763995
No ine likes netorare dude
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>>4763928
>Ignore the Tower of the Hand, wait for everything to be over
>Other (write-in)
Go have a bath and get washed by a bunch of Saucy handmaids, investigate what we are working with size wise.
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>>4764976
Coomer degenerare
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>>4764865
that word doesn't mean what you think it does

its already ntr because we're planning to fuck Cersei behind our dad (both our dads) back. we're the high school punk with the gang of flunikies fucking the class rep, not the cuck forced to watch.
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WildFire Hand grenades to lob over the Wall at Night kings army? Or use as a medium range anti-infantry by slingers or close range specialists?
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>>4765083
porque no los dos?
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>>4765193
It can be both, just sharing my thoughts.
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>>4765083
Our best bet is probably to feed it to prisoners as a laxative. Then have them diarrhea flak onto the zombies from atop the wall.
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>>4765231
I just imagined what that would look like, and I bet it would make daddy bobby proud.
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>>4765083
Just dig some holes and put the pots in them. Then use regular flaming oil pots from a treb or catapult to try and detonate them from a safe distance.
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sup guys, could you please stop mis-tagging this thread in the archives? It's mildly irritating.
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>>4764306
>"why's this lil knigga talking like this?"

>>4763964
>The Sansa/Margaery focus is because of showfags

This explains so much.
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>>4765268
Huh?
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>>4765268
holy fuck, you actually post on /qst/ ????


Sorry about that, my players are autistic cunts.

I have no idea why. (OvO)
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>>4765308
Only when people fuck with the archive~ No worries, just thought you should know, and to politely ask to knock it off. It's easy to fix at least.
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>>4765268
oh fuck
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>>4765277
Of course it is. Nobody who reads the way they're written would want to marry either of them unless they're some kind of turbo autist. Fuck, half the picks on the menu are the kind of obvious narrative traps that any bog standard fantasy politics writer would look at and say "well obviously that's just bait for bad drama" and you with reader-omnipotence can get to see every angle and many internal thoughts outlining it clearly. These waifus are for voring.

>>4765308
Just archive your thread as a soon as you post it by filling the majority of the form out priorly. That always nips this problem in the bud.
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>tfw the librarian shows up to tell people to put the books back in the right place

Y'all niggas need help.
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As punishment for upsetting Lord Licorice, you just lost your Fate Point.

I hope y'all are happy.
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>>4765380
whats a fate point
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>>4765388
It allows you to participate in the Fate Quest run by WhatisaQM
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>>4765392
why would we need a fate point when we already have access to it.
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>>4765380
>for upsetting Lord Licorice
who bitch dat is
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>>4765410
lurk moar, newfag
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>>4765380
Literally who?
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>>4765414
Sorry, I don't know every tranny here
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>>4765380
Which one, the one spent or the one anon sitting on?

Will Gendry make a very sudden and miraculous recovery to undo the fate point?
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Just a thought, since we're getting rid of Baelish, we're going to need to keep Bobby alive for a while until we can get a lock on controlling the Goldcloaks. Renly still wants to be king so we need to get the Reach onside so he doesn't have access to a Reach/Stormland alliance, I don't think we can count on Stannis shadowbabying him to death. As by foiling the Baelish plot, Stannis *might* back us out of his rules autism.
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>>4765380
Collective punishment never works. Especially since the one that started it all wanted to one up the other anons. If you wanted to penalize the person, just single out and ridicule him.
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>>4765425
>Renly still wants to be king so we need to get the Reach onside so he doesn't have access to a Reach/Stormland alliance

Another fine reason to wed margy

>>4765430
Like any of that even matters on this train
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>>4765430
>If you wanted to penalize the person, just single out and ridicule him.

But dare I say this is QM's fault for giving a freebie as a lark to the shitter? Thus encouraging misbehaviour? Nay, it is the faggots who are wrong. Wait everyone's a faggot. Damn.
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>>4765442
It does if you have a sense of justice. The one getting punished is the one that was bullied by the QM, while the offending anon not only gets off scot free, he got a freebie as well.
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>>4765450
Everyone may be a faggot, but some are more of a foggot than others.
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>>4765380
its ok. im just glad you tried to be nice.

>>4765410
man, this makes you think
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Once we get proficent in weapons, should we train with The Hound?
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>>4765460
We live in a Farm.

I was either supremely lucky or unlucky, they had us reading the great gatsby instead of animal farm.
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>>4765464
Nope, save training for someone it will build a bond with, and has status / political clout. Loras, Jamie, Ser Barristan, Bobby.

Should we get the chance treating Brienne of Tarth with respect as a Knight isn't a bad idea. She's super duper loyal to anybody who doesn't treat her like shit.
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>>4765470
In a Kingdom.

That's a shame, as it's become quite relevant in this day and age. Funniest thing about it was the Orwell was a Socialist himself, yet didn't like the products of Socialism. We are all creatures of our time I suppose.
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You decide to keep your distance from the Tower of the Hand, with its crenelated battlements and tall windows, for the duration of Jon Arryn's slow, painful demise via poison.

Instead, you return to Maegor's Holdfast and the royal apartments – studying more strategy by candlelight in your bedroom while you anxiously await for events to play out roughly according to how they should have in canon. Casting a glance to your hearth, you remember how you burned that book Jon Arryn was supposed to have been reading when he drank from that poisoned goblet of wine, contaminated with the tears of Lys. Even if he still asked Grand Maester Pycelle for the tome – Jon couldn't have gotten his hands on it, considering you made sure it was destroyed – turned to ash almost a fortnight ago. So what had The Hand been doing last night when Lysa Arryn killed him? His regular routine? It's hard to imagine and going to be even more difficult to predict going forward, considering how deeply you plan to change the course of Westerosi history and how much you might have already affected it. For now though, you lie in wait for your plans and schemes to come to fruition, playing the part of a martially-obsessed twelve year old boy.

Like almost every night since your birthday, you fall asleep upon a bed of silks and lace, physically and mentally exhausted.

You awake the next morning and begin your usual routine, dressing yourself for swordsmanship lessons with the master-at-arms.

By the time you've made it into the small, sunken courtyard, a messenger brings you the grave news and the bells of King's Landing begin ringing to signal his passing.

Jon Arryn has died.

He passed away early this morning, presumably having succumbed to the sudden onset of an illness of the bowels.

The King is bereaved by the death of his Hand, close friend, confidant and foster father. The corpse is to be laid in state in the Red Keep's royal sept.

>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
>Stick to your usual routine
>Other (write-in)
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>>4765491
>>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King

It's expected. Also we should offer our sympathies to Bobby, if he asks why we care, we can tell him we'd know how awful we'd feel if we lost our dad.
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>>4765491
>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
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>>4765491
>>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
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>>4765491
>>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
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>>4765491
>>F
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>>4765457
Have you even been paying attention? The qm is an arbitrary sperg
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>>4765491
>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
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>>4765491
>>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
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>>4765513
Bonus points for using arbitrary correctly.
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>>4765491
>>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
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>>4765513
Does this mean we have to adhere to such tyrannical punishment? Nay, I say! Throw off the shackles of arbitrary oppression! Fight for fair and equal treatment in this quest! We are not just some nameless coomers of a board, we ARE Anonymous, and we demand that we be heard!
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>>4765541
>nameless coomers
Half the people in this thread are. 40% of the rest are elseweyr.
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>>4765491
>>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
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>>4765491
>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
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>>4765491
>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
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>>4765491
>Dab in front of his corpse
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>>4765600
+1
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>>4765600
I'm using my vote to vote *against* this.
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>>4765600
Supporting.
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>>4765635
+1

Respect not dab.
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>>4765497
>>4765644
This faggot is trying to vote twice. Shun him.
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>>4765648
I'm not voting at all, does that mean I get to shun single voters?
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>>4765648
Calm down there pot, no need to go all black on me.
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>>4765659
Show me a single vote that I've double voted in. This should be fun.
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>>4765665
im not even him but

>>4764817
>>4764827

you arent even subtle anon
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>>4765665
It's already fun. I don't need to, as your the one that caused Lord Licorice so much trouble.

>>4765673
Based anon.
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>>4765380
It was Elsweyr's fault and you should stop counting his samefagging and own votes.
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>>4765491
>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
>>4765648
That wasn't a double vote, it was a clarification. He's voting against dabbing on Arryn's corpse with a preference for paying respects.
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>>4765673
Ahem.
>>4761726
>>4761762
Lol.

>>4765675
Knigga, you are unironically justice-posting and have wrongly accused others of samefagging already, only to do so yourself just now. For all I know, you're the one still dicking around in the archives to try to get a fate point like I did.
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>>4765692
dont get mad fateqm, having 2k posts threads is nothing to be embarrased about
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>>4765692
>unironically justice-posting
Nobody tell him.
>have wrongly accused others of samefagging already, only to do so yourself just now
>doesn't know what samefagging is
lol
>you're the one still dicking around in the archives to try to get a fate point like I did.
So you do admit to dicking around in the archives for that fate point, My oh my. As a sidenote, you were fucking around before the creation of fate points in this quest m8.
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>>4765701
Wait. You think I'm the weeb qm? And I'm samefagging? And I fucked with "my" own thread archiving? Guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurl.
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>>4765704
>fucked with two QMs with archiving just for the lolz

You really can't make this shit up.
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>>4765703
>admit

Yes? That was obviously me the first time. I all but said as much when I did it.
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>>4765707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrDSqODtEFM
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>>4765713
Lol whatever faggot. Stay mad.
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>>4765717
kek

Nice projecting m8.
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The fuck happened here? What are you all sperging about?
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>>4765730
Dont know, dont care.
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>>4765730
>What are you all sperging about?
Not flirting with the qt red-head ratcatcher. For shame.
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>>4765750
Fuck flirting, we need to get Buff
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>>4765750
>>4765752
Do both, get swole by lifting the red-head. Problem solved.
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>>4765491
>Pay your respects to the late Hand of the King
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>>4765704
nah im jk
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>>4765730
I spiked the tea.
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While you chose to avoid the Tower of the Hand and Jon Arryn while he yet lived lest you accidentally bungled the smooth transition of his demise, the least you could do to performatively demonstrate respect for the old man you allowed to die is visit his corpse at the Westerosi version of a wake.

You travel up the serpentine steps of the Red Keep towards where the Royal Sept is located across the yard from the stables, behind which sits the Maidenvault – a keep historically known for housing young, virginal noblewomen and princesses.

The castle sept itself – like all septs in Westeros – is a single building composed of seven walls, each one decorated with representational art portraying one of the seven aspects, where followers of the Faith of the Seven can worship and pray at altars dedicated to that specific one. Ceremonies from weddings to funeral are held within, led by the highest ranking male member of the clergy where hymns are often sung.

Entering, you smell the fragrant scent of many candles burning within the sept's interior, the incense masking the smell of death likely wafting off The Hand of the King's corpse at the front opposite of the door you walked through. Crystals in the high windows turn the early morning sunlight into rainbows. The altars here are constructed of pure marble, including a permanent, eighth one meant for marriages, built in between the altars for the Mother and Father. Rows of benches fill the large building and are currently packed with hundreds of individuals.

You see the King, stoic and morose, flanked by four members of the Kingsguard – including Ser Barristan the Bold, all of whom are still as statues as they hold vigil for the dead member of the Small Council.

You spy a sobbing Lady Lysa Arryn with her young son Sweetrobin, surrounded by their household which includes Maester Colemon and Ser Vardis Egen – the captain of the former Hand's guards.

You notice Stannis Baratheon, his visage grim and resolute as he stares forward, his mind a million miles away from here.

The rest of the Small Council – Petyr Baelish, Varys, Renly Baratheon, Pycelle – are dispersed among the crowd, all of them looking relatively disinterested in the proceedings unlike everyone else.

Strangely enough, you even spot Gendry in attendance in the far back of the room close to where you entered.

>Hold vigil with the King (Say something?)
>Hold vigil near Lysa Arryn (Say something?)
>Hold vigil near Stannis (Say something?)
>Hold vigil near Littlefinger (Say something?)
>Hold vigil near Varys (Say something?)
>Hold vigil near Renly (Say something?)
>Hold vigil near Pycelle (Say something?)
>Hold vigil near Gendry (Say something?)
>Hold vigil alone
>Other (write-in)
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>>4765860
>Hold vigil with the King (Say something?)
'Who will be your Hand now?"
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>>4765860
>Hold vigil with the King
say nothing
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>>4765860
>>Hold vigil with the King (Say nothing)
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>>4765860
>Hold vigil near Stannis (Say something?)
>Say that we wish we had been closer to the Hand, ask Stannis more about Jon and what brought them together, considering Robert isn't the most unbiased resource.
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>>4765860
>>Hold vigil with the King

Say nothing.
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>>4765864
>>4765860
+1
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>>4765860
>>Hold vigil with the King
Say nothing.
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>>4765860
>Hold vigil near Littlefinger
>Say nothing, stare at him for the duration of the vigil holding a full smile, showing all of your teeth.
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>>4765888
ALL of the teeth? Geez I don't know guy you'd have to cut off some cheek for that.
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>>4765892
did i stutter motherfucker
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>>4765860
>Hold vigil with the King (Say something?)
Say nothing, especially when there are so many nearby who can overhear?
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>>4765896
Hey they weren't mothers until after so it doesn't count.
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>>4765866
Supporting
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>>4765866
+1
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>>4765866
This
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>>4765941
wait i have to think about this
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>>4765860
>Hold vigil alone
>Wait for someone to come to you.
Also why would gendry be inside here? I guess he wanted to and said something bullshit-ish to be let inside. This is weird. An anomaly.
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>>4766084
he's inside here so someone else can use him for their play
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>>4766084
Should have killed him when we had the chance, Jon and Stannis have been talking to him I'm sure.
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>>4766084
The Hand saved his foot and housed him to heal. I'm sure they talked a lot, maybe bonded a little. I'm not surprised that he would want to pay his respects as well.
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>>4765860
>>Hold vigil with the King (Say nothing)
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>>4765860
>Hold vigil with the King (Say nothing)
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>>4765860
>Hold vigil near Stannis
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>>4765860
>Hold vigil near Gendry (Say something?)
Gendry would know what the Hand was up to, since he was at his house. We can ask him about that in a not suspicious way, since we're buddies.
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>>4765860
>Hold vigil with the King (Start singing my way)
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>>4765860
>>Hold vigil with the King
>say nothing
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>muh gendry fags bout to get btfo for their stupidity
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>>4766399
I doubt it after the QM cucked out on killing him.
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>>4765860
>>Hold vigil with the King (Say nothing)
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>>4765860
>>Hold vigil with the King (Say nothing)
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>>4765866
+1
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Trick dead?
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You stride forward to the front of the sept and take your rightful position beside King Robert Baratheon, your dad. He spares you one quick glance as you silently join him in mourning, before returning his attention to the corpse of his foster father laid out before the gathered crowd of nobility.

Before you lies the body of Jon Arryn, Lord of the Eyrie, Defender of the Vale, Keeper of the Gates of the Moon, Warden of the East and Hand of the King. He is garbed in functional armor emblazoned with his House sigil, a sheathed blade at his hip with wings on its crossguard and a falcon-head pommel, engraved in silver to resemble mountain sky. Two round, polished, smooth stones with facsimiles of eyes painted on them rest upon his own to cover them from sight.

You lower your head and cast your gaze to the cool stone floor beneath your feet, not speaking as you pretend to pray for the deceased individual. The old man’s reputation for being kind and wise was likely well-earned, judging by your impressions of him in the sole interaction you shared with him.

Hours pass as you endure the boredom of standing there, doing nothing in this solemn setting. Eventually, the High Septon arrives - a squat man who is ponderously fat with grey hair - accompanied by a choir of seventy seven septas. The gluttonous leader of the faith takes his place before the altar of the Stranger and delivers a long-winded speech praising the many accomplishments of the man who died this morning, lauding Lord Arryn especially for helping Robert Baratheon rule the Seven Kingdoms for many years of peace and plenty.

By the time the pompous pope has finished his sermonizing, the sun is hanging low in the sky to the west - well past midday. The choir of nuns then sings beautifully to assist in guiding The Hand of the King’s soul into the afterlife as well as guide the attendees towards the exit, signaling the ceremony’s official end.

The High Septon takes his leave first, followed by Robert. You walk alongside the king, maintaining a rigid, upright posture as you move so as to display the stability and nobility of the Baratheon Dynasty even during this trying time.

Just outside the sept, the Lord of the Seven Kingdoms halts with his retinue, waiting patiently for the departure of another.

Several more important individuals leave first - bowing gracefully to the King and yourself as they do - before the woman he was looking for emerges.

The widow Lysa is thick of body with a pale and puffy face, exacerbated by her wailing and sobbing. Her pale blue eyes are watery and her small mouth is petulant. Auburn hair cascades thickly down to her waist. Clutching at her skirts is a young, painfully thin and small boy with brown hair and big, runny eyes. His limbs are spindly, his chest is concave and his skin is splotchy.
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Passing by the King, the poisoner curtsies to him and mutters, “Your Grace,” in a warbled tone of voice. Robert holds up a hand, indicating for her not just to continue walking past. She halts in her tracks along with her train of household servants, anxiously waiting for whatever it is her liege is about to say.

He sighs out. “I’ve agreed to foster Robert with Lord Tywin at Casterly Rock,” he evenly informs the woman.

Panic blooms on Lysa’s features, her grip on Sweetrobin tightening. “Now?” she asks incredulously. “He just lost his father, now you wish to rip him away from his mother too?”

“This is the best time for it,” Robert candidly explains, though you can tell he wishes he didn’t have to. “Jon has no other brothers, no sons. The boy needs companionship now more than ever, especially without his father to raise him.”

She vibrates with fury and turns away from the king, storming off without speaking another word to him. Robert frowns, but clearly chooses not to press the issue of her impudence.

>Say nothing
>Peculiar behavior, father, considering I overheard the Hand planning to foster his son on Dragonstone anyway
>Other (write-in)
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>>4767894
Apologies. I honestly could have pumped out three updates/two votes worth of content today by now, but instead decided to get nostalgic for some of my old quests on akun which were deleted and looked into how to recover and read some of my old writing rather than update this quest.
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>>4767954
>>Say nothing

Watch, anons, just watch.
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do we have access to joffrey's memories?
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>>4767964
Not really, is there something you wish to access that isn't beating Sweetrobin with a wooden sword or gutting a pregnant cat?
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>>4767954
>Say nothing
being a mouthy shit now would bring us the wrong kind of attention
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>>4767954
>>Say nothing
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>>4767954
>Say nothing
this would probably be the best time to dab but I guess we can compromise
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>>4767969
just based on only knowing Jon Arryn from one encounter, I was wondering if we had any memories of joffry's life

it would be bad for our cover if one of the Lannister brood picks up on us not remembering some important fishing trip or whatever.
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>>4767954
>Say nothing
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>>4767954
>>Say nothing
Get the popcorn
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>>4767961
I'm watching. What exactly am I watching for? Are you gonna do a flip?
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>>4768123
Lysa is going to have a Karen moment
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>>4767954
>Say nothing
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>>4767954
>>Say nothing
not today, trick
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>>4767954
>Say nothing

Where's the popcorn?
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>>4768126
Bro I'm still waiting for that fucking anon to do whatever incredible feat of acrobatics he told us to watch for. This is bullshit.
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>>4768473
Trick fell asleep with her lesbian girlfriend, please understandu
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>>4767954
>Say nothing
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>>4767954
>Say nothing
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>>4768473
what?
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>>4767954
>Say nothing
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>>4767954
>Say nothing
>4768487
Wait, trick is a w*man?
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>>4768589
you're a dull boy billy
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>>4768590
Uh. Guys? If we're hiring the assassins to kidnap this lady and her son, what if she doesnt try to flee if her son is staying here?
What happens in the story? Does the king try to keep the son here but the mom steals him away, or is this a divergence in plot?
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>>4768596
I assume she will, and that this was the real cause of her and Sweetrobin's flight from the capital. If Lysa doesn't flee, then Tywin gets to foster Sweetrobin and we still win. Maybe we can even convince Bobby B to foster him, so we can develop a similar relationship with the future Lord Arryn as the king had with Ned.
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>>4768596
You haven't predicted all eighty four outcomes already? I bet you haven't even guessed the results of headpatting Myrcella more than once yet. Have you even figured out the flying butter's effect of Joffrey leading his steps with his left foot instead of his right?!

You have to foresee it all, anon. Or we are doomed.
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>>4767954
>>Say nothing

I think this is mother's influence. She wants a hostage.
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>>4768614
Based. I'm all for more Myrcella headpats though. A lot more. Enough to trigger stress induced baldness in her head.
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it's probably for the best that we save the lad from his own mother
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>>4768652
I agree. If we want to see it from the moral imperative, this is the right thing to do.

If we want to see if from a purely strategic point of view, if/when our grandfather comes to know of our role in securing the heir to the Vale, we'll gain quite a bit of value in his eyes, on top of potentially securing a friendship with Robin down the line for ourselves.
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>>4768507
Don't go the fatman route QM, we know you're doing it for free but at least get to the FAegon arriving thread before ghosting the story, then you have a good excuse.
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gonna make 1 more post in this thread at some point today most likely and then wait until i have a good chunk of free time to post the next thread
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>>4767961
I'm still waiting you rat bastard. Do the death-defying aerial activity already.
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You allow the slight against your father the King to stand, saying nothing as you let Lysa Arryn’s own erratic behavior serve as proof of her treacherous actions.

Once Grand Maester Pycelle makes his exit from the Royal Sept, Robert Baratheon unleashes a barrage of commands at the elderly scholar. “Send word to the Warden of the North that Lord Arryn has died and that his old friend the King will be riding to Winterfell to seek his company. Give Lord Stark the details of The Hand’s passing and make sure the Queen knows to meet us on the Kingsroad with the rest of my children in tow.”

Unlike Lysa Arryn, Pycelle bows obsequiously. “I will send out my swiftest ravens immediately, Your Grace.”

Afterwards, you and Robert Baratheon return to the royal apartments in Maegor’s Holdfast, a deep sadness etched into his fat, alcoholic features.

“It’s damned cold up North,” he breaks the long held silence between you two with that piece of information. “Even during Summer. You can resume your lessons with your uncle Jaime once we meet him on the road, though you won’t have much time for it while we’re traveling.”

You nod. “Yes, Your Grace.”

Robert grunts. “If it weren’t for that old man lying dead in that sept, I wouldn’t be Your Grace nor anyone else’s neither, Joff. And neither would you. One day, if you’re lucky, you’ll sit on the Iron Throne because of what Jon Arryn did for the realm. Don’t ever forget it.”

“I won’t, father,” you assure him.

“Good,” he acknowledges.

>Say something to Robert? (write-in)
>Wait for the fireworks to explode tonight
>Other (write-in)


I know the updates are slow right now and y'all are pretty much just waiting for the epic shit to just happen already, but i really want to start that good shit with a fresh thread on a day where I'll have lotsa time, which will be tomorrow.
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>>4770215
>Say something to Robert? (Ask him to tell you stories about Jon Arryn)
Let the old man reminisce of the good old days.
There's nothing like doing your favorite pastime with your son.
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>>4770215
>Say something to Robert?
mention the Night's Watch idea, of bringing all King's Landing's prisoners north to serve on the wall while collecting volunteers along the way, as a gift to Ned Stark, as his brother is a member of the night's Watch and the institution is important to Northern culture.
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>>4770228
support
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>>4770228
>>4770225
Supporting Story time and Night Watch Mesh together
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>>4770228
>>4770225
>>4770215
I like both these ideas.
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>>4770228
+1
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>>4770215
>>Wait for the fireworks to explode tonight
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>>4770228
Yea support
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>>4770225
>>4770228
+1

Based ideas.
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>>4770225
>>4770228
support these ideas
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>>4770215
>I know the updates are slow right now and y'all are pretty much just waiting for the epic shit to just happen already, but i really want to start that good shit with a fresh thread on a day where I'll have lotsa time, which will be tomorrow.

nigga, don't burn out. that's the priority. if its not fun, then dont post, just let us know you dont wanna.
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>>4770225
>>4770228
Supporting, but also suggest that we empty every dungeon in every castle we stop in on our way to Winterfell.which has prisoners bound for the wall.
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>>4770225
support
>>4770228
Do you really think he's in the mood to talk politics? This is a stupid metagamey idea.
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>>4770580
>metagamey idea.
Now this

THIS is advanced retard. Welcome to the premise of the quest.
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>>4770583
I don't think Robert knows that
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>>4770586
Then he can say no. Or maybe he'll say yes. That's the point of them asking. Even I can see that. Damn.
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>>4770225
+1
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>>4770228
+1 this as well
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How common is Dragonglass, how expensive is it?
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>>4770215
>Wait for the fireworks to explode tonight
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>>4770225
+1
Story time with dear ol' dad!
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>>4770662
My understanding is that it's not too expensive because there aren't many uses for it, but it's not very easy for the average rando on the street to get hold of because it's only found in a few places. Of course, we're not some rando so I suppose if we just ask uncle The Mannis I'm sure he'd be happy (or as close as he ever gets to happy) to provide us with however much we want at a reasonable price.
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new thread

>>4771347



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