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The Grail War continues, but you're taking a day off right now despite the danger that keeps trying to seek you out.

You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.

To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.

The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.

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Last Thread: >>4806968
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You'll surprise her, you think. It's almost certainly going to be Sakura, and while there is of course a small chance that it is BB in the shower instead, the clothing folded near the door of the en suite on a set of drawers makes you disregard that potentiality. It's Sakura's outfit, after all, and unless BB is willfully trying to get herself killed by Sakura, then she's not going to have done something like this... you think. Well, you hope, at least. While you don't exactly have a very good relationship with BB, that doesn't mean that you want to see her get herself torn apart, and you have no doubts that the girl wouldn't survive if she did something like pretend to be Sakura.

You take a deep breath before you quietly open up the door to the shower, it's not locked, surprisingly. Then again, it would've been quite silly if the door was locked. Still, with the door unlocked as it is, you sneak inside as quietly as you are capable, relying on your martial skills as much as you can to quieten your movements, every movement you make is perfectly calculated, and you soon manage to enter the shower without being heard by Sakura. She's facing the wall as she showers right now, so she doesn't see nor hear you enter. You almost curse the fact that you had the shower glass designed to be mostly opaque, as you can only see Sakura's vague silhouette behind the glass, though it's almost certainly her.

You don't really know what you should do now. Should you enter the shower with Sakura? Wait for her to leave while she's still naked, or...

"You know you don't have to stand out there, Onii-chan..." Sakura's silhouette is staring directly at you now, and you freeze up. She's... not... surprised? How come? How could she have possibly noticed your entrance?! You were silent! Were you underestimating her awareness again? You suppose that's always possible, you really need to work on your ability to remain undetected, huh? Ever since you gave Ciel her shroud back, your normal skill at sneaking around is showing itself again. Of course, that skill isn't really something that exists at all, at least not on the level that can fool somebody with enhanced senses. Sure, you could easily sneak your way past normal humans, but against anybody else, you're not that great.

"Uh, Sakura! I... Uh... I came in to..." You start wracking your mind for an excuse to give the girl, until you realize... do you even really need to give her an excuse? Sakura obviously wants this, otherwise she wouldn't have made the offer, and... well, you'd be a liar if you said there wasn't a part of you that wanted this as well too, so... would it really be wrong to indulge in your own wants, as well as Sakura's wants?

>Enter the shower with Sakura.
>Make an excuse and leave.
>Write-in...
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>>4813893
>Commence non-sexual bathing scene
>Wash her hair properly and comb it
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>>4813893
>Strip all your clothing and enter the shower with Sakura.
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>>4813893
>Enter the shower with Sakura.
No, it would not be wrong.
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>>4813893
>>Enter the shower with Sakura.
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>>4813893
>I wanted to talk about preparing a dinner for everyone... a feast, in fact, to get everyone comfortable with each other and celebrate our victory over Zolgen
>approach and offer to help her wash and admire her body
Well we came inside for a reason, might as well not backpedal now.
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>>4813893
>>Enter the shower with Sakura.
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>>4813908
>>4813893
Support
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>>4813893
>Enter the shower with Sakura.
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>BB tricks Shinji with Alan's help and cucks everyone by stealing his first time
Now that would be epic
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>>4813893
>>4813908
+1
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>>4813893
>>4813901
>>4813908
Switching
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>>4813918
We'll have to find a way to kill the Crawling Chaos then.

And I am genuinely surprised by the strength of the anti-coomer vote here.
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>>4813923
How is it anti-coomer?
It's just anti-turn-brain-off-and-become-completely-retarded, you still get skinship with Sakura, possibly even THAT.
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>>4813926
How is accepting Sakura's invitation completely retarded, anon?
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>>4813893
>Enter the shower with Sakura.
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>>4813923
desu I want to coom as an average guy but I felt we might as well make conversation while we fondle our (not blood related) sister.
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Now when should I call...
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>>4813932
Call it now, it's time for the shower sex scene
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>>4813929
I don't know anon, the offer to wash and admire seemed like something to do as opposed to doing more. I guess I'm being paranoid about cockblocking ourselves, I of course have nothing against striking a conversation while approaching.

>>4813932
Whenever you think you've drunk enough.
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>>4813893
>>4813908
+1
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>>4813932
Do it
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>>4813936
you're washing a naked girl that wants to fuck you, clearly that's going to lead to something else, if not by (You), then by her
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>>4813893
>>Enter the shower with Sakura.
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>>4813927
Stopping your brain and forgetting everything is
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>>4813932
Take a day off before next update, fix your sleep schedule
For the greater good, you know
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>>4813893
>>4813908
support, lewd can come at night
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It's been like an hour what won?
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>>4813959
Enter the shower
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>>4813959

>Enter the shower with Sakura
>>4813902 (+Strip all your clothing)
>>4813903
>>4813906
>>4813911
>>4813916
>>4813928
>>4813945

>I wanted to talk about preparing a dinner for everyone... a feast, in fact, to get everyone comfortable with each other and celebrate our victory over Zolgen
>approach and offer to help her wash and admire her body
>>4813908
>>4813912
>>4813919
>>4813920
>>4813939
>>4813954
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>>4813964
The implication on the post that specifies taking off all your clothing is hilarious.
That you just wouldn't otherwise.
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>>4813893
Enter the shower with Sakura
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>>4813969
Subvote to enter shower WITH clothes?
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>>4813972
Supporting.
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>>4813972
No. Cockblockers lost
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>>4813969
>>4813972
Do it
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>>4813972
+1
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>>4813972
no
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I can't believe I'm actually writing this.
I need more drink.
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>>4814005
Oh, come on. You've known since yesterday at least. You should've been prepared.

Or you could do a fade to black. We won't judge.
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>>4814005
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>4814010
No, I've already got some of it written.
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>>4814005
>We might actually fuck Sakura
Welp. I was hoping for Medea but Sakura is fine too.
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>>4814005
Is this the first smut you've ever written?
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>>4814017
Yes.
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>>4814013
I hope your liver can take it then.

rofl
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>>4814018
Pastebin it or something, lewds in thread get it deleted
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>>4814018
yk ya didn't actually have to write it, just fade to black
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I'm expecting Nasu tier dialogue QM.
I'm sure you'll do fine.
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>>4814022
You think I'm a pussy?
No, you'll get your h-scene and you'll
Well that's up to you.
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>>4814018
>First for Shinji AND WhatIs.
This is hilarious.
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>>4814018
Either do a fade to black or write the cringiest, Nasu-est piece of porn that has ever seen the light of day.
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>>4814005
You have only yourself to blame.
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Can we expect fast food analogies?
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>>4814028
I can't see it being any worse than Nasu's, and I'm pretty sure it'll be much better.

Or funnier. One of the two.
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Time to think of wacky metaphors and similes.
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>>4814042
Worms
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>>4814043
Worms have been gone for years.
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>>4814042
Kanpai!

>>4814043
That's mean.
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>>4814042
Time to go full Nasu (and also go fully drunk)
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Time to bring popcorn and open /qtg/, this is gonna be great.
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>>4814042
It's not a true Nasu H-scene unless invertebrates get mentioned a few times
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>>4814045
Memory remains or do snakes
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>>4814042
Mollusks

>>4814029
It's like poetry it rhymes

>>4814049
I'm excited personally
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Is there going to be a [Status updated]?
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>>4814042
Jellyfish
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>>4814063
Sakura Makiri
Trimester: First
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>>4814045
>>4814042
GO OPEN UP FATE/STAY NIGHT
GO TO THE H-SCENES
SIT AND READ THEM
NOTE THE NASUISMS
WRITE YOUR OWN H-SCENE
EASY
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>>4814005
>>4814013
>>4814018
>>4814028
Please tell me Shinji cums inside. You NEED the nakadashi, or else it's not a Nasu h-scene
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Yo give me 1d10-2
Average of 4.
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Just thought about something.
Fornication outside of marriage is a sin.
We need a higher power to recognize this union (and any other in the future).

Basically, call YHWH or Nyarly to humblebrag before jamming it in.
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>>4814075
Fun fact: The name for jellyfish in Greek is literally "medusas"

This has been the useless fact for today.

>>4814084
I thought that went without saying.
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Rolled 8 + 2 (1d10 + 2)

>>4814085
Hopefully I have rolled correctly.
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Rolled 6 + 2 (1d10 + 2)

>>4814085
What the actual fuck?
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Rolled 3 + 2 (1d10 + 2)

>>4814085
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1DkBQRQj4

Omedetou, Shinji-kun!
You fucking faggot
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>>4814087
>We need a higher power to recognize this union (and any other in the future).
Does a Mother Goddess count?
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>Sakura finally having sex after a year of restrain
>Worms Rumble got weekend deal discount
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I ASKED FOR MINUS 2
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Rolled 9 + 2 (1d10 + 2)

>>4814085
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Rolled 5 + 2 (1d10 + 2)

>>4814085
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>>4814096
I guess it does, but I really wanted some advices from based Alan.
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>>4814085
Really? Minus 2? Ik Shinji isn't gonna know what to do but uh... it's Sakura
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>>4814100
How do u do that!
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>>4814100
I wrote "dice+1d10-2", dunno how else to do it.
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7 6 4 1

Average of... 4.5?
Let's round that to 5.


>>4814106
Oh no, I'm not rolling for performance...
Well I suppose in a way I am.
;)
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Rolled 6 (1d10)

roll test
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Rolled 9 - 2 (1d10 - 2)

>>4814107
dice+1d10+-2
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Rolled 3 - 2 (1d10 - 2)

>>4814100
getting minus rolls on this board is really fucking complicated iirc whatis
>>4814085
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>>4814112
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
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Rolled 1 - 2 (1d10 - 2)

>>4814114
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>>4814112
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Rolled 9 - 2 (1d10 - 2)

>>4814114
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>>4814117
Dead end.

Can you check if red font works?
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>>4814118
Does this count as -1?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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>>4814126
5/8, we'll be fine.

>>4814129
It would if WhatIs hadn't already gotten the rolls he asked for.
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>>4814126
It did not.
>>4814117
How long we last clearly.
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>>4814135
That would have been my first guess, but he said he's not rolling for performance.
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>>4814135
Sakura drained Shinji in 5 mins?
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>>4814139
She's the only one who has more mana than us. Seven grails' worth, thanks to Tiamat. Maybe we drained her, for once?
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It's on the way.
Just finding a decent not pastebin site now...
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>>4814167
That was fast. Did you really drink enough?
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Wow it does not like the pastebin alternative I found.
Hold on...
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>>4814176
You could just post it on Ao3 anonymously
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https://controlc.com/5fc4166d


"I know that you probably didn't just come for... well, what we did..." Sakura blushes, the moment is over now, and she's obviously quite a bit embarrassed about what the two of you got up to in the shower. The realization that the two of you were almost certainly being loud enough in the shower that anybody who might've happened to pass by Sakura's room would've been able to hear.

Sakura quickly guesses that while you were happy to oblige her wish, it wasn't like you actually came to her room looking to see her personally, and you think back to your plan of having her help organize a mighty feast.

>"Sakura, I actually wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind helping me cook up a feast for everyone to get to know each other over."
>"Well, I wanted to know if you'd be alright organizing the cooking for everyone tonight. I want it to be a feast, after all."
>"Actually, I was thinking of organizing a feast, but what's the point? I can just order a banquet from a top class restauarant instead."
>Write-in...
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And now also roll me 1d5 five times everyone.
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Rolled 2 (1d5)

>>4814184
this is for people who heard isn't it?
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Rolled 5 (1d5)

>>4814184
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Rolled 3 (1d5)

>>4814184
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Wait why did I ask for 1d5?
I meant 1d2 5 times.
Oops.
Sorry, the uh.
Alcohol.
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Rolled 2, 2, 3, 5, 4 = 16 (5d5)

>>4814184
1d5 or 5d5?
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Rolled 3 (1d5)

>>4814184
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4814190
oh boy, Tiamat is hard at work
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4814190
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4814190
quintuplets
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4814190
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

>>4814190
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3b2g
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Also there is a vote you need to vote on as well.
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>>4814181
I'm not entirely clear on implications of the first two replies btw... I take if first means we'll be cooking as well, means time off our schedule at some point. Can we still take kids to Argo beforehands?
I guess the second means we leave it to Sakura to manage.

How big is our kitchen, i.e. how many people can pitch in?
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>her soft and gentle hands rub your already erect cock like a particularly affectionate owner might rub a cat.
My favorite simile by far.
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>>4814202
Very good. We'll have to come up with name ideas as well.
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>>4814202
>three boys and two girls
Broodmother.
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>>4814207
First is you'll cook as well, yes.
Your kitchen is basically a high class restaurant kitchen.
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>>4814210
Our first born son will be named Shirou to honor our best friend
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>and her grip on your cock gets just a little bit tighter as she moans, like the talons of an eagle gripped around a slug, the mollusk completely defenseless in the grip of the seasoned predator.
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Anyway, we should ask Emiya and Shirou for help with the cooking as well.
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>>4814218
I'm not a bird scientist but I'm pretty sure eagles don't eat slugs
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>>4814181
Well, I wanted to know if you'd be alright organizing the cooking for everyone tonight. I want it to be a feast, after all."
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>>4814223
Sorry, but alcohol
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>>4814202
We really should have realized we were rolling for number of kids. I guess we made it up to her for almost making her cry earlier.

>>4814208
Defenseless mollusk for me, with the tits as snail's shell a close second.

Anon was right, you should have fit in a tits soft like jellyfish somewhere in there.

>>4814216
Support
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>>4814223
They do, also waiting to read this till after church service. Do we actually penetrate her?
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>>4814229
5 kids anon
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>>4814229
We rolled for sex of the kids m8
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>>4814229
I thought they ate like squirrels and shit, and we finished inside her yes
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>>4814181
>"Sakura, I actually wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind helping me cook up a feast for everyone to get to know each other over."
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Could have used fiction.live or questionable questing for smut scenes.
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>>4814235
Cool
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>>4814226
Honestly this was pretty good, it was cute and wholesome
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>>4814181
>>"Sakura, I actually wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind helping me cook up a feast for everyone to get to know each other over."
Would be fun to cook with all our friends.
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>>4814181
>>"Sakura, I actually wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind helping me cook up a feast for everyone to get to know each other over."
Finally, Shinji’s no longer a virgin
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>>4814181
>>"Sakura, I actually wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind helping me cook up a feast for everyone to get to know each other over."
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>>4814181
>Hug and kiss your sisterwife. There's nothing to be embarrassed about.
>"Well, I wanted to know if you'd be alright organizing the cooking for everyone tonight. I want it to be a feast, after all."
>"But don't do everything by yourself, I don't want you getting too tired."
>Kiss her again for goodbye. Things to do, unfortunately.
Right, there's a vote too.

>>4814255
Oh, yes. It was great. Eat your heart out, Nasu!
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>>4814181
>>"Sakura, I actually wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind helping me cook up a feast for everyone to get to know each other over."

Alright, I guess this will cut into our budget more than alternatives but it is a nice opportunity for more characters to interact with each other.

Also, about Argo... is it safer in wherever it is now, or somewhere out in the seas? We at least have some bounded fields and a lot of Servants, but how well is Jason's crew defended from attacks?
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>>4814266
It would be safest if we had it brought to our yard. Alcides could probably pick it up by himself.
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>>4814246
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>>4814235
The fucking bloat is real damn it!
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I dread the response but... did you like the H-scene?
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>>4814274
What were you expecting?
You had unprotected sex with a girl housing a Mother Goddess.
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>>4814255
>>4814276
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>>4814276
Just suggest you could use Fiction.live or questionable questing. I don't know if that would have been easier for you.
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Hopefully broken Rin didn't hear that inside of Eresh.

Also will dragon mother have an effect in the children?
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>>4814181
>"Well, I wanted to know if you'd be alright organizing the cooking for everyone tonight. I want it to be a feast, after all."
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>>4814278
Ok but condoms clearly aren't gonna work cause half a dozen girls are gonna poke holes in them
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>>4814276
Yeah, I rubbed one out just for you.
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>>4814276
It was meh, the only smut from a quest that I’ve ever actually liked would be from Beyond the Gate
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>>4814276
It was fine but very wholesome.
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>>4814293
Well, I consider not being fantastic at H-scenes to be a mark of pride.
I can't believe it took 38 threads though.
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>>4814274
We always wanted many kids.

>>4814276
Why would you dread the response for such a great scene? I loved it, it was both cute and had the appropriate nasuisms. You have a talent, it's a good thing you'll get to use it often here. ;)
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>>4814274
NOOOO NOT THE CHARACTER BLOAT!!!
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>>4814298
When did you expect it
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>>4814298
>Well, I consider not being fantastic at H-scenes to be a mark of pride.
I have some bad news for you then.

>I can't believe it took 38 threads though.
That's what you get for encouraging haremfaggotry. :)
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>>4814299
We want kids but now and this many? 1-2 fine but five. Also is this going to happen each year MC has sex? There is 13 women in the harem and if this holds Shinji is going to have a village.
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>>4814181
>"Sakura, I actually wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind helping me cook up a feast for everyone to get to know each other over."

>>4814276
Very nice
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>>4814278
What traits will they inherit?

How big a nursery are we going to need?

>>4814276
It was quite adorable.

I personally felt the terms got a bit crude (tits, cock, as worst offenders) for the theme of the scene which was first lovemaking of the couple.
however as you by your admission felt you need to get drunk for that, I'd say you pulled the task off admirably
also I didn't play the eroge so my benchmark is off
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>>4814320
>also I didn't play the eroge so my benchmark is off
Eroge calls Sakura an educated prostitute.
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>>4814315
Yes, and?

>And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it
It's in the bible, we have to do as God asked.
>>
Honestly sex scenes are a lot like fight scenes, usually the choreography isn't what makes it, it's the emotion and reason why it's happening in the first place. Kirei vs Shirou isn't a technically good battle, but it's one of the most memorable because it's the final fight between two opposites standing against each other at the end of the world
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>>4814326
Also Rin has a defenseless anus
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>Around twenty more kids by September
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>>4814315
> Also is this going to happen each year MC has sex?
Sakura has Tiamat inside of her and Tiamat has passively altered aspects of her body.
Sakura is pretty much the only one with this trait.
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>>4814326
Poor Sakura. But that's probably just borked translation... right?

>>4814334
That one is kind of hilarious desu
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>>4814341
>Poor Sakura. But that's probably just borked translation... right?
Somebody post the collage.
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>>4814315
Patriarch Shinji. With offspring as numerous as the grains of sand in the desert, or the stars in the sky.
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>>4814340
So expect five children Everytime there is an H scene with Sakura.
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>>4814341
>borked translation
I admire your optimism.

>>4814345
Shit, I can't find it.

>>4814351
Not for the next nine months. And we rolled, we had a 20% chance of no kids.
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>>4814298
That's what you get for cockblocking shotacons
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>>4814338
Is Sakura gonna have to drop out of school cause she's a teenage mother in Japan now?
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>>4814345
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>>4814181
Calling in 5
Somebody tally please.
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>>4814362
>"Sakura, I actually wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind helping me cook up a feast for everyone to get to know each other over."
This wins.
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>>4814356
We were planning on having her drop out and come with us to the clocktower next year anyway.

Though the kids will be born in November, there's no way we can leave a pregnant Sakura behind. Looks like we'll have to delay, I'm sorry for arguing against you anons.

>>4814365
5 mins aren't up, anon.
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>>4814338
Honey, I am just getting cigs brb
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>>4814362
Gochu senpai

>"Sakura, I actually wanted to ask you if you wouldn't mind helping me cook up a feast for everyone to get to know each other over."
>>4814244
>>4814257
>>4814258
>>4814262
>>4814266
>>4814319

>"Well, I wanted to know if you'd be alright organizing the cooking for everyone tonight. I want it to be a feast, after all."
>>4814224
>>4814287

>Hug and kiss your sisterwife. There's nothing to be embarrassed about.
>"Well, I wanted to know if you'd be alright organizing the cooking for everyone tonight. I want it to be a feast, after all."
>"But don't do everything by yourself, I don't want you getting too tired."
>Kiss her again for goodbye. Things to do, unfortunately.
>>4814265

Overwhelming support for spending more time cooking with our sisterwife and our friends!
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>>4814367
Could just stay for a year in Fuyuki and plan everything out then head off to Clock Tower
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>>4814377
Finally another timeskip.
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>>4814377
I was arguing hard for us to head to the Clocktower next September in a few months, but a year of preparation is the minimum now. Probably more than that.
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>>4814378
>>4814381
Gives us an excuse to relationship build, plan world domination and training
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>>4814374
Sakura, Shinji and Shirou cooking time!
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>>4814315
>>4814351
Just make a vote for abortion, I'm sure it will go well with everyone!
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>>4814393
Our pregnant sisterwife and our firstborn kids are more than an excuse anon, but yes. We'll have to make the time now.

I should have thought of that during those discussions. It was inevitable.

>>4814395
picrel just for you
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Wow this quest really blew up since the last time i came to this board.
Last time i read this Kiritsugu disappeared, what happened to Shirou?
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>>4814400
Shirou is plowing Saber right about now
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>>4814407
nice
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>>4814400
Oh, wow, you've been gone for a while anon. Long story short, we helped Shirou become a not-shitty magus, he reconciled with Illya early on in the war, got engaged to Saber yesterday, they're currently attached at the hip, and we put Kiritsugu back in his body earlier today after Acht had put his soul into a teddy bear and given it to Illya as a gift. The Emiya family is currently catching up.
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>>4814410
thanks for the summary. Interesting looks like i'll need to catch up then
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>>4814394
And Medea and Tamamo if they done found Amethyst yet.
Maybe Satsuki?
Maybe Ciel, Karna and EMIYA if they get leave of sniper duty?
And the maids?
Maybe BB can be getting in the way?
Would Nero want to participate or taste test?
What about Suzuka?
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>>4814413
Definitely.
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>>4814409
We also gave Shirou every weapon in Type Moon up to December 2020 I think. He used Slash Emperor in a DEAD END to kill the superboss
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>>4814413
You definitely do.

>>4814417
Oh right, yes. I forgot we accidentally downloaded the wiki on him.
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Someone should post some pictures of sakura pregnant
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>>4814414
It's a good excuse to get to know everyone, we should call in Karna and EMIYA
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>>4814394
Only people who's names start with S are allowed.
SSSSS feast!
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>>4814420
There are surprisingly few of them.
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Quintessential Quintuplets but they’re dragonborn
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>>4814426
That's all I had, actually, so have a bride Sakura instead.
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>>4814399
>We'll have to make the time now.
we are cool
uncle Alberich we drop them kids and needy broads into INS and we are good to go for some magical school adventures
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>>4814419
Also i remember some people really going for the illya route, is she part of the harem?
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>>4814441
She's 99/100, she may as well be
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>>4814441
She'll be part of it
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>>4814441
The illyafags have mostly disappeared, with a few prominent exceptions. It'd be too weird to have her part of the harem when she looks about as young as some of our daughters and so we haven't made any moves.
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>>4814447
True but she is older than us and doesn't actually have the mind of a child, she's mostly traumatized and stunted, she's mature when she wants to be. I'm not particularly interested in her but if Illyafags want her I won't stand in her way, I'm not an asshole that's gonna sabotage an anon and their waifu
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Can you believe that threads post-hiatus have occured 3x faster?
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>>4814447
>It'd be too weird to have X part of the harem
Ever the optimist IHIHIHIHI
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>>4814454
Yeah it's weird, you'd expect things to slow down but they kinda ramped up
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>>4814451
I don't want to have to explain to Betty why we're french-kissing the girl she thinks is her age or younger. And she might be older, but her childhood was rather lacking. I'd prefer if we let her enjoy a renewed childhood with her newfound family, and revisited the question in a few years.

>>4814455
More and more optimistic as this day goes by, I admit. It was touch and go for a while, but we seemed to have managed.
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>>4814455
Man this is such a fun game
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>>4814460
>Illya is an adult sweetie, some adults look small, look at Shuten
Damn that was hard
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>>4814463
Illya really looks like a child, anon.
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>>4814463
My wife looked like a loli so I see nothing wrong with it
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>>4814462
I was wondering if any anons recognize this cute and helpful fairy!
I wish she would prepare some nice and wholesome activities for Shinji and friends.

>>4814467
Sounds like a you problem.
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>>4814496
She doesn't look like a child to you?
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>>4814496
I'm playing through the first game after hearing about the last DLC
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oh god what was that H scene, my fucking sides.
I wish it was longer.
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>>4814426
There quite few pictures of nasuverse girl pregnant, its a shame.
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>>4814501
Source
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>>4814500
I personally don't care.
Any romance with illya will probably depends of her at this point.
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>>4814516
Black Souls and Black Souls 2, there are a lot of H scenes but like Nausverse VNs, they're just there to bait you into playing the game
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>>4814505
So do I, illyafren, but there's always next time.

>>4814515
It really is. Sakura would be a perfect mother, both pregnancy and kids suit her. There should be more pics of those.

I'm beginning to consider commissioning something.

>>4814520
Of course you don't care, and I agree a romance depends on her. But I'm saying that A) her looks make it weird, and B) it'll be better for her if she has some happy childhood family with her father, brother (and mother when we pull her out of the grail) before she jumps into a romantic relationship. I'm not saying no to Illya, I'm saying wait. There's no rush, is there?
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>>4814539
>I'm beginning to consider commissioning something.
I wish i was rich, i would pay for so much art that it would be stupid.

>her looks make it weird,
Shinji does not care.
> it'll be better for her if she has some happy childhood family with her father, brother (and mother when we pull her out of the grail) before she jumps into a romantic relationship
I hardly see why she can't have both? Its not like we are going to kidnap her and imprison her in a tower or something.
But it depends of her, so i'm just waiting.
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>>4814516
Soulslike RPGM H-game with terrible but unique art for h-scenes, which you will learn to enjoy eventually.
Its story and characters are inspired by classic fairy tales, H.P.L. and Alice in Wonderland.
It's a gripping experience full of SOUL.
picrel


>>4814501
Playing again or 1st playthrough?
also more black boxes in a true BS discussion fashion


>>4814500
Prillya lolis don't really look like kids to me, more like small women, but not quite. It's its own thing.
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>>4814548
Prillya looks like a 11-12 year old.
it depends a lot of the artstyle.
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>>4814542
>i'm just waiting.
And I'm not really asking for anything else.

>>4814548
That's weird, I really can't see them as anything but kids.
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>>4814554
>That's weird, I really can't see them as anything but kids.
Prillya lolis look like kids, i guess its because some of the anime art makes then with too long legs or something.
The manga art don't have that problem.
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Illya likely can learn how to shapeshift. She always hated being compared to children but wants an older brother. That never made sense to me. Make up your mind godamn it!
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>>4814571
Well Archer is older than her so LOOPHOLE
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>>4814571
I hate to disappoint you man, but Illya isn't exactly... stable. Acht's upbringing did a number to her.

>>4814578
Did you not notice WhatIs saying he started drinking to write his latest masterpiece? Combined with his sleep deprivation, I'm surprised we're getting another update today at all.
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>>4814578
No, update imminent.
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"Well, Sakura, I actually came to your bedroom to ask you if you wouldn't mind helping me cook up a feast for everyone to get to know each other over a little later on. In a few hours, I mean, I want to take the kids out to see the Argonauts first." You are genuinely wondering just what it is that Jason has been getting up to without any supervision from Illya. Despite his personality not being the greatest for a hero, you don't think that Jason is about to bail on Illya, and especially not on Alcides. In fact, it might be an idea to go and see Jason with Alcides, the friendship that the two share is one of the things that makes Jason a person who is more tolerable to be around. Especially with Alcides retaining his sanity and taking the form of a human.

"Oh, cooking together? That sounds... wonderful, Onii-chan." Sakura has a gentle smile on her face as she looks at you, her hair still soaked from the shower. "I'll be more than happy to cook for everyone together with you. But, it's not going to be easy, to cook for everyone... so we might have to enlist the help of Shirou, and maybe Rin too... and anybody else who wants to help cook. I'm sure there are at least a few of the people who've started to follow you around who can cook." Well, that's probably true. You also know for a fact that Gilgamesh should have a multitude of cooking tools that are the cheat weapons of the culinary world. You're not sure if you'll be able to persuade him to loan them to you though.

"Great! I'm glad that you're happy to help, Sakura." You lean over and kiss Sakura one final time and run your hand through her still damp but still incredibly soft hair. Sakura is sitting on her bed now... huh, you wonder just why the two of you decided to spend so long with each other in the shower when it would've almost certainly been more comfortable for the two of you to do it on the bed... oh well, you can always do that next time, you suppose. Which knowing how much stamina the two of you turned out to have, may very well end up being tonight! Though it's unlikely that it will be tonight, honestly. If Medea or Tamamo or even Satsuki overheard you and Sakura in the shower, then it's highly probably that they would demand to be next... Potentially, at least. You can't really say for sure, but you feel like things might be getting quite a bit interesting for you in the future...
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You leave Sakura to make herself decent, your own seaweed like hair was dried quite quickly with the somewhat careless use of rune magecraft. Now all you need to do is find the kids and ask them if they want to go see an actual cat girl who loves children way way too much. Seriously, Atalanta's desire to protect children goes a few steps above being admirable and kind of descends into being delusional and unhealthy... But still kind of admirable at the same time. She might not be the smartest person, but she's unshakable in her views. Of course, that does lead to her going berserk sometimes, when somebody does something against her views. Still, you have no intention of ever making an enemy of Atalanta. The woman is very much somebody you feel you will be able to get along with quite well. Or at least you hope so. It all depends on what the hell Jason is doing right now. Though Medea hasn't specifically mentioned him doing something idiotic, and you imagine she's been keeping eyes on him like a hawk, just looking for a reason to kill him, or at least get him in trouble. Her hatred of the man is intense, after all.

You walk through the corridors of your home, looking to return to the lounge to see the kids. On the way there, Shuten passes you in the hall, and you really really don't like the smirk she gives you. Seriously, you don't know if she's doing it just because she's who she is and she felt like doing so, or if she's doing it because she overheard you and Sakura... Hopefully if it is the latter, it's only because of her superior hearing she has as an Oni that allowed her to pick up on what you were getting up to with Sakura...

You try to put Shuten out of your mind as you enter the lounge, looking at the game the kids are playing... It looks like Betty is playing against Alítheia in Street Fighter III. The girls seem to be too focused on the game to notice your entrance, and you watch to see the two girls manage to end the game in a draw, of all things. A double KO. The two seem to be perfectly matched, in regards to Street Fighter at least. Just before they start the next round, you cough to reveal your presence, and the girls soon start to swarm around you. Thank goodness they were apparently all too distracted to have overheard you and Sakura. It would've been far too embarrassing if they had overheard. Rin and Olga are still with the rest of the girls, though they mostly just appear baffled by the games that the other girls have all picked up really easily.

"Papa!" Alítheia if always happy to see you, and the rest of the girls share her attitude. Rin and Olga still seem a little apprehensive, but they seem to have started to warm up to the rest of the girls, at least.

As you head-pat all your daughters, you begin to think. Sure, you're going to be taken them all with you, obviously, but should you take anybody else with you?

>Yes, take... (Who?)
>No, you'll just keep this as an outing with the girls.
>Write-in...
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>>4814603
Take illya as well
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>>4814603
>>No, you'll just keep this as an outing with the girls.
Honestly I see Atalanta tagging along so let's just keep it like this
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>>4814603
>Yes, take... (Who?)
>Alcides and Nobu
Shinji thought why we'd want Alcides. Nobu for overwatch, Tesla's still out there, and because she'd enjoy seeing modern Japan and the harbor.

>>4814609
Illya's only very recently reunited with her father for the first time in a decade. Let's not interrupt them.
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>>4814603
>>4814614
and put the bracelet back on if not specified
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>>4814603
>>4814614
+1.
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>>4814586
>Update within 10 minutes
I'm somewhat of an expert on this.
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Will Alcides be forced to job again due to plot and being captured again?

Maybe Ilya should come so we have a vore Morrigan option
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>>4814611
>>4814603
>>Yes, take... (Alcides)
Swithcing to this, I forgot about Alcides, he probably wants to reunite with the gang
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>>4814603
Supporting >>4814614 & >>4814617
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>>4814603
backing >>4814614, just Alcides and Nobu is fine. I can imagine Nobu saying something about the youth of Japan being the seeds for the future and need good education, or some progressive cool shit like that
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>>4814603
Adding >>4814617 to my vote at >>4814614

>>4814617
We'll have to figure out a better way to remember that thing.

>>4814621
Why do you assume we'll stand and fight Morrigan with our daughters right there with us? And Illya's with Kerry and Shirou, let's not interrupt them.
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>>4814617
oh fuck, we need the bracelet on too
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>>4814599
>You're not sure if you'll be able to persuade him to loan them to you though.
We can set aside a part of the kitchen for him if he wants to prepare something for Ayaka, no?

>Yes, take... (Who?)
I forget, is Alcides in house or on Argo at this time? Maybe Illya too if she wants to check on her Servant. Though she's probably still catching up with dad.

Jason deserves some slack for his part in dealing with Ishtar.
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>>4814637
Yeah, I don't imagine Gil saying no to his second best friend who wants to prepare a feast for his best friend and his girl, among others.

Alcides should be in the house if Shinji's thinking of taking him. Otherwise we'll just go with Nobu. I really doubt Illya will want to leave Kerry for the foreseeable future.

We definitely have to convince Medea not to kill him.
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>>4814603
>On the way there, Shuten passes you in the hall, and you really really don't like the smirk she gives you.
Shuten is next and/or she’s gonna tell people what we were doing for an hour straight
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>>4814603
>Street Fighter III
But which of our kids will be the one into the cool and kino games, such as Half-Life 1, GTA San Andreas, Castlevania, Silent Hill 2, F-Zero GX, Jak and Daxter, Deus Ex, Jet Set Radio, Goldeneye, Spiderman 2, Megaman Battle Network, Armored Core, Timesplitters, the Harry Potter 1-3 games, Mortal Kombat... just to name a few?
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>>4814648
We'll groom Betty into that. I think she'd like HL
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>>4814653
She'd definitely find the headcrabs adorable.
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>>4814656
Yeah imagine a giant Lamar summon
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>>4814660
Except he wouldn't be defanged.
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>>4814632
ah nvm then.

Its not that we'd choose to stay and fight, its in case we're forced to.
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>>4814661
Or those freaky black headcrabs
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>>4814664
Alcides and Nobu will buy us the time to call for a teleport.

Did you just happen to come in right on time for the visit to the Argo, or were you lurking during the time of COOM.

And a bit of autism planning: How do we blackout the city tonight? Send Chiyome to the power plant with some specific instructions, ask Raiga for a favor, or something else I can't think of?
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>>4814667
Just woke up, got here right before this update.

Now heading out for the day, Mondays are busy so probably won't be around till much later
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>>4814675
Ah, lucky timing then.

Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about having the kids dab on Castor.
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Calling in 15.
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>>4814686
I love our Wendy's chef
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Isn't Nobu already on overwatch? Why take her it just puts her in a bad position. Archers can survey and attack from their sniper perch.
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>>4814691
Line of sight. The Archers' vision will get obstructed by other buildings if all of them stay in the mansion.
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>>4814686
And what won?
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>>4814704
You did
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>>4814704

>>4814614 together with >>4814617
or
>Yes, take... (Who?)
>Alcides and Nobu
>and put the bracelet back on if not specified
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Dead quest
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>>4814742
Good thing we got Ereshkigal from stranger to melting over course of like five minutes then.
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>>4814742
You got your coom scene, what more do you want?
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>>4814751
Batman? I imagine he'd like to capture Joker again.
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>>4814751
Gotta catch them all
>>4814754
He's fucking Robin atm I believe
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You know, this is a little bit late, but how do you want to get to the Argo?
Teleport?
Public Transport?
Walk?
You've got too many people with you for a car.
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>>4814772
Walk
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>>4814772
Walk
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>>4814751
More coom, I imagine.
Enough coom that it would spontaneously ignite a fusion chain reaction, then blow prematurely and have the resulting planetary nebula coalesce into a coom elemental that would traverse the multiverse, leaving behind a trail of broken dreams and shattered hopes.
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>>4814772
>Public Transport
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>>4814772
Make a mental note to buy a school bus and walk.
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>>4814782
Preferably a short bus
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>>4814772
Teleport

We should've thought to buy a minivan.
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>>4814772
Teleport.
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>>4814772
Teleport.
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>>4814784
Well I mean we could buy a new one every year or so but why not buy one that will last at least five?
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>>4814791
>he doesn't get it
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>>4814791
We're one of the richest men on the planet, what are you worried for?
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>>4814772
Invisible Alitheia (dragon form)
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Also fuck normies for keeping Alitheia from freely flying through the skies.
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>>4814793
>tfw googled it
ooooh-kay... well maybe TWO buses? I mean, think of the children!
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>>4814803
We could finance a children's movie about a dragon girl going on adventures and tell the media Alitheia is a super advanced animatronic blimp made for marketing purposes.
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>>4814811
That's... so fucking retarded it might work.
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>>4814803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMTIB2SIO9E&t=168s
>Mighty and glorious
>She flies through the emerald skies

>Magic dragon
>Casting a spell on the mountains
>Covering wizards in glory
>Flying through majestic skies
>Searching for mighty power
>To defeat ultimate evil
>Ride on the wings of a dragon
>Flying through majestic skies
>Questing for the steel

Give it time anon. The queen of Dragons will be soaring through the skies in just a few years.

>>4814811
We'll be taking over the world in about 5 years, the movie is kinda a waste of effort.
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>dragon queen of Truth
>father is Megalomaniac of Truth
How the hell are we going to find a suitable husband for Alitheia?
Is she destined to be an eternal spinster?
No, incest is banned in this case you sick fucks
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>>4814841
>incest is banned
We should ask her mother about that, anon.
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>>4814845
do as i say not as i do
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>>4814845
>Sakurautist approves of incest now
Based.
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>>4814860
>now
Anon, I've approved since day 1 of the quest.
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>>4814860
what do you think we just did with Sakura
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>>4814845
Sakura is not blood related to Shinji.

However, Alitheia is literally born of Shinji's blood.
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>>4814870
her body was literally changed to be a Matou, she's related to us
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It's a draw between walking and teleporting.
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NBR, doesn't count!

Oh God, someone needs to stop this Seaweed Menace.
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>>4814873
Let’s walk
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>>4814870
A) this >>4814872
B) Alitheia has our blood but she wasn't born, if you want to split hairs
C) Who cares anyway?

>>4814873
Took you a while to notice
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>>4814870
Alítheia is also a dragon. Dragon's have shit like their lungs being their own "spiritual worlds" as per Elizabeth's thing, and she's not even really a true dragon.

They are phantasmal and weird as fuck.
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>>4814872
Well if you want to play that card, Shinji's body was changed to an even greater deal than Sakura's body was changed when you became a gestalt being.
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>>4814873
Teleport

>>4814877
Based
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>>4814873
I'll vote then
>teleport

Imagine walking as a Dragon Rider
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>>4814880
We're still half Shinji
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Are we seriously now discussing justification for fucking our daughter that was literally born like what, two days ago?

Ah the irony of sphering.
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>>4814845
>wooing Mordred is grooming
>marrying daughter created from your blood who's been raised by you since her birth is totally ok
Sakurafag, I...
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>>4814890
Yeah, stop doing that.
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>>4814890
>fucking our daughter
What? Ewww, fuck no anon. What the fuck are you thinking? We're discussing the appropriateness of our daughter marrying one or more of our sons.
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>>4814890
i thought we were talking about our bio son with Sakura what the fuck dude, no we're not gonna fuck our daughter
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>>4814893
I just realized I've been having a different discussion with you all...

I swear the thought never crossed my mind!
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>>4814901
Not sure if clever or innocent...

Good, for a moment I thought this was a Rance thread.
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>>4814895
>>4814899
That's not really better at all desu.
And personally I'd have avoided doing this to Sakura but whatever.
And I'm sure this discussion will be revisited once the quest reaches the point where Alitheia grows into puberty.
>inb4 you naive optimist
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>>4814907
A little too late for that, anon. Like it or not, we've set an example.

Personally, I like it.
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>>4814907
>Alitheia goes into tantrum over Shinji not spending enough time with her mothers
>Australia becomes new Atlantis

>>4814913
>there is no man good enough for my daughteru
>I'll have to raise such a man myself
Based. Doesn't even have to be BR son.
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I feel like everyone is kinda forgetting that Shirou and Saber are gonna have kids eventually
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Why are we discussing hooking up our daughter with out son. It's Alitheia choice not ours.
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>>4814929
I certainly didn't, but how many kids are they gonna have? 1? 2? 5? We have more already.
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>>4814933
Of course it is anon. No one said otherwise.
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You could've taken Stheno and Euryale and had Atalanta try to kill the male Argonauts.
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>>4814929
Nah, I definitely want to bond Emiya and Makiri household.
There will be at least 10 year difference though, supposing they get a son now.
Nice.

>>4814933
The man has to earn father's approval though.
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>>4814944
thinking about it we should've taken Medusa or Nero honestly
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Incidentally, it's a given that our firstborn son will be named Shirou, but we should start thinking of potential names for our other two sons and two daughters.
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>>4814944
That's not funny.
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>>4814951
Think you mean that's not cunny
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>>4814944
Speaking of Medusa's sisters, we should probably check up on them when we get back, the schedule's already fucked. Literally.
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>>4814950
>name them after namefags ITT
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>>4814951
Neither is keeping the Gorgon Sisters in the attic.
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>>4814948
>The man has to earn father's approval though.
Well, if Alitheia wants to elope in a decade, there won't be much we'll be able to do to stop her. But I can't imagine her falling in love with some NPC.
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>>4814948
>There will be at least 10 year difference though
what's the age difference between Shirou and Saber again?
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>>4814965
Or between us and Medea?
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>>4814950
our firstborn daughter will be named Shiki to honor our other best friends
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>>4814960
We can buy them computers and they can set up a twitch studio there.
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>>4814960
They deserve it though.

What's the time? Sun's position? Praise Alan?
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>>4814960
i feel bad now that we forgot to mention Medusa, its Medusa and Nero when we go shopping
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>>4814971
The stars are right.
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>>4814950

>Zolgen and Kariya for boys
>Touko and Aoko for the girls

just kidding.
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>>4814965
Yeah, but you don't want to wait until your daughters become cakes, right?
I was thinking of marrying them to a 12 year old boy. Hopefully less degenerate than clocks in Shirou's mind.
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If I had to pull a number from the aeither.
Let's say that it's 1pm
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>>4814980
Kariya is actually a interesting idea.
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>>4814981
Sakura's interlude kinda had her theorize that Alitheia is gonna stay a little girl for quite a while
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>>4814970
Won't exist for another 7 years.
I'm pretty sure that you already created Youtube though.
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>>4814969
No. We don't want Ryougi's attention. I might be partial to Shiki for a boy, but it might be bad luck.

>>4814977
We'll have to visit her and fix her sisters first, she's not leaving the attic otherwise.

>>4814979
Praise Nyarly! God REALLY needs to up his offer soon.

>>4814980
I admit I thought about Kariya, but he's a shitter even if he tried. A tombstone's enough for him.
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>>4814980
Hey. Kariya tried!
He failed horribly and went nuts, but he did try!
We should probably put up a grave for him or something.
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>>4814984
don't know about that, he wasn't the best person, he tried doing the right things for the wrong reasons and ended up giving Rin and Sakura's mom brain damage
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>>4814990
Naming anyone Kariya is like cursing them directly.
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>>4814993
>We should probably put up a grave for him or something.
kinda feel bad we didn't do this early, chalk it up to not fully finishing his and our business with Zouken, now he can rest
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>>4814983
So we'll be returning from the Argo just in time for lunch. Excellent.

>>4814995
Yeah, pretty much.

>>4814996
I'm pretty sure we just didn't think about it until after the war began. But yeah, he'd be happy if the root hadn't eaten his soul. We killed Zouken, we saved Sakura, AND we're fucking Aoi's daughter, just like he would have wanted.
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>>4814994
To be honest, I dunno how much of that was regular Kariya, and how much was the worms and handling Berserker.
He was selfish sure, but in the FGO Zero event he chose saving Sakura over revenge on Tokiomi and a chance at Aoi. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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>>4815000
>AND we're fucking Aoi's daughter
pretty soon we'll be fucking both of her daughters

>>4814990
>No. We don't want Ryougi's attention
???
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>>4815003
i kinda agree but he still gave Rin and Sakura's mom brain damage in this timeline, it wouldn't be right naming one of our kids after him even if he wasn't in his right mind
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>>4815003
Didn't he have to be essentially coerced and persuaded to do so?
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>>4815005
Watch Kara no Kyoukai, anon. The movies are great.

But tl;dr version, Shiki Ryougi has a more powerful version of Shiki Tohno's eyes of Death perception. She can cut through even immaterial objects like magic or even a future prediction. And she has an alternate personality inside her who has a direct connection to the Root and thus is omipotent, but is usually content to just slumber. We DO NOT want to mess with her.

Touko might be able to provide an introduction though. She was her and her husband's employer a few years ago.
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>>4814993
Damn, now I feel bad for Kariya and Kayneth.
Those idiots didn't deserve it.
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>>4815012
He was just put in a bad situation by Kirei. He strangled Aoi on his own after she thought he'd killed Tokiomi. The worms had eaten his mind by this point, but no one told him to do it.
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>>4815015
>a direct connection to the Root and thus is omipotent, but is usually content to just slumber. We DO NOT want to mess with her.
Literally the exact same deal as Manaka. Her Omnipotence is just that she can 'do anything', she's not actually omnipotent.
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>>4815017
>Kariya
Me too. A tombstone to honor him is justified, but we should ask Sakura what she thinks of him before. We never talked to her about him, and we don't even know if she hates him.
>Kayneth
Fucking why?
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>>4815015
It's not really that her Eyes themselves are different, but her brain/origin/body are different.
Since she was born with the [ ] Origin and essentially stillborn and had to have Ryougi arts done to her for her other two personalities to be born and her body to be alive.

MeoDP depends on how/what you can comprehend, and she has a better compatibility with concepts/weird shit, while Nanaya/Tohno is better at killing living things.

R.Shiki can cut Araya's weird space room and ghosts, while N.Shiki got his eyes amidst a massacre and dying but being brought back and his Pure Eyes turned.
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>>4815015
yeah but that has nothing to do with naming our daughter Shiki

>>4815023
fun fact, Taiga is as skilled as Shiki in swordplay
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>>4815018
No, I mean in the other Zero event, Accel Order. Where Iskander basically had to kidnap Sakura and go "You can have her and leave or you can try having your revenge" and he was mighty tempted to still go for revenge over Sakura.
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>>4815019
I thought she doesn't have Manaka's shitty circuits, and so she has fewer limitations. Was I wrong?

>>4815023
Yeah, but we're getting a bit carried away from a tl;dr version for someone who has no idea. I didn't even mention the male personality.
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>>4815025
Yeah, and Shiki with sword hypnotism was beating Araya.
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>>4815030
She doesn't even have ANY circuits. Her Eyes are also a Pure Eyes variant that got turned, like Tohno's iirc.

She has some kind of weird instinct/precognition that Touko says isnt how actual precog should work even for psychics and can jump/run gigafast enough to dodge explosions point blank in the Mirai Fukuin, but I think thats just a weirdness like T.Shiki blitzing Arc and Chaos.
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>>4815025
She's named Shiki, and you're proposing naming our daughter Shiki. [Shiki] knows everything, and she may become interested enough to wake up. We can find another name.

>>4815026
Is this an FGO thing?
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>>4815030
Manaka's not even really that limited by her circuits, it's just that she can't do truly completely ridiculous things like break quantum time locks with her normal level of strength because she can't overpower the World under normal circumstances.
But she's capable of taming a Beast and easily overpowering Byrnhildr.
Pretty sure that Paracelcus says she's stronger than APEX at one point too.
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>>4815022
Agreed on the Kariya thing. We'll do it after Manaka.
On Kayneth... I guess because he was an idiot in over his head?
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>>4815035
It is an FGO thing, and I think it makes sense with his character.
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>>4815026
He did choose Sakura over revenge in the end though. He was pretty fucked up at that point.
But I can see why you'd think otherwise.
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>>4815022
Kerry did him dirty. Kayneth didn't deserve that after being broken already.
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And to think that Nasu once stated that Void Shiki could only fight Servants in a defensive battle. Lmao.
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>>4815051
Nasu says some dumb fucking shit sometimes, apparently Ciel can fight defensively against servants but gets beat by Zero Kirei, this is the same girl that can give Arc a run for her money if prepared
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>>4815054
>Ciel can fight defensively.
Pretty sure that got retconned to Ciel just being able to straight up fight Servants.
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>>4815036
>She claims restructuring the laws governing atomic matter, going back in time to change the evolution and development of all life, and reconstructing the orders and laws of the world would be easy for her to accomplish. It is not actually changing the existing world, but instead annihilating the old world with a new world
I don't think Manaka could do that, could she? And I may have misunderstood something about Manaka's circuits then, I thought she wanted the Beast so she could overcome those limitations.

>>4815041
Kayneth got what he deserved.

>>4815044
Yeah, as described it's certainly consistent with his character in Zero. He was about as much interested in saving Sakura as using this to finally fuck Aoi.

>>4815051
Fucking Nasu
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>>4815057
which makes the Kirei statement even more absurd
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>>4815057
Most statements I can finagle around, the one that confused me the most is but Gae Bolg would RIP Arcueid. Doesn't this mean Lugh and Odin would absolutely kill her, which. . . well.

Comptiq - October 2005 - Fate Dojo

"Q : This is a question pertaining to the comparison between Servants and characters from other works [that featured] in the September issue.
The subject is the matter of the [hypothetical] Servant that bears the average Noble Phantasm. Speaking in the context of the main story, what is the approximate Rank of the Noble Phantasm borne, and who would approach that?

A : A serious question. Those existences whose capabilities if represented as numerical values would [render that] the Noble Phantasm's level is B are called as average.
Something akin to Broken Phantasm (unknown), Barrier of the Wind King (C), Gae Bolg (thrown) (B+), perhaps.
On the other hand, those existences bearing Conceptual effects or of the classification of destiny interference are of a special category.
Because, dependent on luck, Gae Bolg (normal) could irrelevant the extent to which Arcuied surpasses Lancer in parameter values easily kill her. "
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>>4815059
Manaka could do all those things that Ryougi said she could do.
Ryougi doesn't mention that whatever she does will just get reverted by a pissed off World anyway.
Manaka only needs Beast so she can overcome the Quantum Time Lock, which is basically something that you need to be able to overpower the World itself to cheat.
It's mentioned that she could easily change it so that Camelot never fell IIRC, but then it would just get corrected.
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>>4815059
She needs to Beast for the unga magical energy to go toe to toe with the World. Sometimes you just need the big energy.

Also, Manaka could do that. Even Goetia can, and he doesn't have a Root connection in his head/soul.
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>>4815064
i can understand why certain people can get annoyed with power level and power scaling discussions, personally i like them to a certain point but holy fucking shit Nasu's method of dealing with it is dogshit
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>>4815064
It's basically just the Instant Death effect that never works being wanked.
Arc probably has EX luck and can come back to life after being killed anyway so whatever.
The spear should also fizzle on her if it's used against her at night time where she has no concept of death.
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>>4815065
Damn, [Shiki] was really leading Kokoutu on when she offered him a wish and she didn't mention that it would get reverted anyway.
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>>4815078
It probably depends on what the wish was.

Also, Manaka is probably the villain of the next Lostbelt. Or at least Titania squatting in her body, maybe?
If it's a Pseudo Servant, I'm going to guess that the girl with the connection to the Root should be the one to come out on top when it comes to controlling her body.
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>>4815081
It's either Manaka or Morgan, now that I think about it.
I can't really see them playing things that straight though.
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>>4815082
i heard someone make a theory about Rider Nero showing up though i don't have the post on hand
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>>4815082
Titania will probably come up, now that Caesar implication is that the version in which Morgan and Caesar are the parents of Oberon, and Zepia bearing the name of Zepia Eltnam Oberon as his choice brought up the significance of names and is coy about it.
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Update when?
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>>4815084
Other than somewhat similar dress and similar hair, another thing that makes me think this could be Manaka is that she's covering the center of her chest.
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>>4815090
It really looks like Manaka, yeah.
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>>4815090
Could Manaka be the source of Castoria?

Her 3rd Ascension has this line.
"The form [as per] the manner of being what was wished for, which that girl could not arrive upon."

The important bit is "that girl", as its not written in the way that "I" is explicitly the subject, which feels suspiciously specific.

"That Girl" (Manaka) could not arrive upon the manner of being (APEX or Saber?) so she made due with her...?
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>>4815096
Originally I (and others) thought it was "The form that Arturia could not arrive upon" but thats not stated, just inferred.
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>>4815096
>Make an eternal Albion
>Husbando nowhere in sight
I'd be mad.
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Back to a more important topic, namely our and Sakura's kids, we could name our second son Waver, even if it's not a nip name, and our first daughter Aoi. And I wish we knew how Shinji's mother was called.
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>>4815090
Qm have you become a Manakabro?
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>>4815113
Yes
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>>4815113
Always have been.
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>>4815116
Based
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>>4815110
Ehhh. . . Aoi is a cursed name for another reason than Kariya.

But really, why name all our children after other people randomly?
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>>4815118
I thought Manaka only showed up because everyone kept calling any character Manaka
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>>4815122
What?
No, she was slated to show up since one of your first dream sequences.
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>>4815110
Touko
Monica
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>>4815110
Fuck Aoi. Spineless bitch let her daughter be sent away.
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>>4815122
Yes
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>>4815122
What do you mean they were Manaka. Though I wonder was that dream we had initially Manaka or Altrouge?
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>>4815123
What stuff did you add in cause of player input? Ayaka and Vritra are the ones I know off the top of my head
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>>4815130
Can't wait for her to be harem material
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>>4815130
It was Manaka.
Remember the smile?
Look at the picture I just posted
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>>4815133
HOW WHERE WE SO BLIND
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>>4815132
Well she's like 13 so
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>>4815113
>ManakaIsAQM
He was since thread 1.
Some autist should probably check all the dream sections in archives.
Not me though, sounds like work. And not enough autism.
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>>4815120
She was cursed through no fault of her own. A daughter with her name wouldn't have to share her tragic fate. And it's not random if it's our best friends and relatives. Do you have better suggestions?

>>4815124
Good suggestions, actually. The two women who have helped us the most.

>>4815126
She had no idea what Sakura would go through, as Kariya hadn't told her anything. It wasn't really her fault

>>4815133
I remember being sure you were foreshadowing Dark Sakura back then, but I don't remember what made me so sure.
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Is Satsuki the final boss of getting our wives pregnant?
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>>4815142
>I don't remember what made me so sure.
>Sakurautist
I don't know either bro.
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>Manaka silently seething and crying as she jerks off to her crush be defiled by two dozen women
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>>4815147
It was a woman and a beast he probably thought the beast was angra.
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>>4815145
Due to being a DA? There were some implications that Tohsakas have something like a vampire in their blood at least, that could have been a DA?

And the statement that there was a spoken of instance where it happened, it just didn't state who.
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>>4815142
So what if she didn't know?
She still let her daughter get taken to another family. She stopped being her daughter. Sakura should despise both her and Tokiomi.
Plus she was a nothing character. Don't care in the slightest about her.
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>>4815147
I am biased yes, and always have been, but I'm not pulling things out of my ass here. WhatIs had said or posted something to make me think it was Dark Sakura, I just can't remember. Or be bothered to go check.
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>>4815149
She can always change the channel and watch the timelines where Canon Shinji gets eviscerated by basically everyone to cheer herself up.
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>>4815151
We're also a higher being so there's that too, plus we can probably fix Satsuki, let's fix Sion too just to be nice
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>>4815153
>Plus she was a nothing character. Don't care in the slightest about her.
This is the biggest and best reason against naming someone Aoi.
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>>4815155
She can do whatever she wants but it'll never change the fact that her crush is being passed around for the pleasure of women that aren't her
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>>4815158
I don't think theres anything bad with being a DA, especially since she doesn't go around eating people.

The Association doesn't give a shit outside the Barthomelloi either, as long as the DAA don't rule over them.
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>>4815145
We'll figure something out, don't worry.

>>4815153
She was Sakura's mother. I imagine she cares about her. Though on second thought, Sakura might not appreciate the reminder. Touko and Monica are better suggestions.

>>4815155
Ah, the joys of rootcable tv.
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>>4815164
>She was Sakura's mother.
That's...not even close to a guarantee.
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>>4815166
I meant that the fact that she cares about her flows from that fact automatically.
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>>4815163
Sion doesn't like being a Dead Apostle and Lorelei is the head of one of the 3 Major Factions
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>>4815164
Sakura has a better mother now anyway.
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>>4815169
Generally people care about their mother, but yes I did just say I was having second thoughts about this.
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>>4815170
Lorelei is not the head of the 3 factions. This is evident by the fact that the other two factions are named differently and are lead by different families.
The military commander is Zelretch. She just has a private army of retards.
Also, Atlas' Director is a DA as Zepia in normal timelines, even if hes not TATARI. Nobody does anything or questions it.
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I found what made me think WhatIs was foreshadowing Dark Sakura: It was this comment of his:

>Oh don't be so paranoid anon, it was only a purposely foreboding comment.
I'm just looking forward to all those Bad Ends I might end up getting to write.
>Pic unrelated.
>Well, half related.

I was SURE it was a double bluff and he was toying with the Manaka schizos before revealing the boss was Dark Sakura all along
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>>4815177
Yeah I fucked up reading, just noticed.
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>>4815177
She's the Vice Director though, so she's second in command of the Clocktower.
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>>4815178
great use of flower language in this pic
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>>4815178
It was a triple bluff.
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>>4815180
I honestly think that doesn't confer her power over the military arm or anything, and deals with internal management and policing

Otherwise what is a Wizard Marshal for?
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just realized that we aren't actually gonna figure out we're having kids with Sakura until like a month later, unless we find some reason to have Asclepius check everyone's health
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>>4815185
Does it matter if it's in a month though?
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"Everyone! We'll be heading off on a trip out to town. I want to show you all around Fuyuki City, and also introduce you to the Argonauts." You think that it would be a really good opportunity to get to know the rest of the Argonauts better, after all, the rest of the crew aren't exactly loyal to Jason, and seeing as the boat itself is their Master, it's not like they have to follow his command.

"The... Argonauts...?" the Young Rin questions you, and it's pretty clear that she can barely hold back her interest at this point. She's probably been cooped up in this room watching the rest of the girls play videogames, and while they might've tried to teach her to play, you just can't imagine. "Well, I suppose that could be interesting. If nothing else, Father would tell me to think of this as a good learning experience." Poor Rin. It must suck to idolize somebody who is as big a jackass as Tokiomi Tohsaka.

There are no other complaints. Even Olga seems happy to go along with everyone else for now, and you clap your hands together. "Alright, then let's get going, shall we, everyone?" You smile at the girls, and Betty, Alítheia and Abby smile back at you. Rin and Olga look just a little bit apprehensive still, clearly they don't know just how much they can trust you just yet, but it seems like they've already managed to build up something of a relationship between them. Tetsuka and your as yet unnamed snake child don't exactly has the capacity to smile back at you, but they at least manage to somewhat look excited, you aren't really sure just how aware those two are of their surroundings, honestly. It's pretty clear that the two of them are still developing, and though they seem to have at least some sort of rapid development, it's nowhere near the level that Alítheia is on. Though Alítheia does have something of an unfair advantage, considering that her body was formed out of your blood, and her soul was created from that of an already existing dragon's soul. The dragon soul is less of the advantageous part for her, honestly, but the fact that Alítheia was created from your blood is where it counts. She's at the very least half-human, whereas Tetsuka and the snake aren't... You're really going to need to try to figure out whether it's a boy or a girl. You suppose you can try asking Alítheia? You've got a name picked out for them too, depending on their sex. Ouroboros or Ourobora, after all, the first thing you ever saw it trying to do was consume its own tail.
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It doesn't take very long to find Alcides, he's hanging out outside Illya's room. He must feel kind of awkward about his hatred of the Gods, and his Master turning into a goddess entirely by accident. You know that he won't resent her for it, but still... It must not feel good to have been effectively useless when it came to actually saving her. He's really not the sort of person to enjoy failing very much, after all. He is still the greatest hero of Greek Myth, and the fact that he was unable to save somebody he considers important to him by himself is... well, you can't imagine it felt good to experience such failure.

"Oi, Alcides. We're about to go and see Jason. You want to come with us?" You ask the muscular looking teenager, who seems relieved by the presence of something to take his mind off things. He stops leaning on the wall and looks about ready to head off immediately.

"Oh? Yeah, sure. I do still want to talk to my Master personally at one point about what happened... but it just doesn't feel right doing it over our mental link, and... Well, she's with her father and two brothers right now, so I don't want to spoil their happy reunion." Alcides is obviously being cautious over things. He's clearly realized just how much that the current reunion must mean to... well, pretty much everyone involved. Illya's lifespan isn't going to be cut short. Kiritsugu is alive and back in his body... Honestly, you're actually kind of excited to see just what EMIYA makes of this whole situation. It might even make him stop being such a god damned downer all the time. He should already be aware that Shirou is never going to turn into him by this point. He should be aware above anybody else that Saber would never allow her husband to go down the self-destructive path that he took, and at the same time, Shirou won't allow Saber to take her own self-sacrificing path... And neither will Mordred.

"Alright. Follow me, we're just going to go find Nobunaga and ask her if she wants to come with us as well, but finding her should be as simple as checking the roof." She's meant to be on look-out duty right now, after all. So if she's not on the roof, then she's probably lazing about somewhere. Nobunaga probably needs somebody to help her take her mind off things right now. You already gave her a speech, and she trusted you enough to help you against an enemy that she for all intents and purposes considered undefeatable even with the additional power she had from being summoned within Japan. The fact that you managed to convince her to join your side was a good sign that Nobunaga trusts you a pretty large amount, just based on your words to her alone, though the application of a concept to her couldn't have hurt either.
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You head outside the house and it doesn't take you long to spot the bored looking military uniform wearing girl sitting on the roof of your house with her legs dangling off of the side. She hops off of the building when she spots you looking at her, and walks casually up to speak. "Have you considered my offer to make you my general yet, Makiri?"

"Wait, you were being serious about that?" You're actually a little bit stunned by her sudden decision to bring that back up.

Nobunaga pouts. "Of course I was being serious. I hadn't actually expected any of us to truly be able to defeat Orochi, but now that you've truly proved that you're a man of your word, I see no reason why I wouldn't want your assistance to help us make Japan into the great nation that it was meant to be, and not a fangless pup." Nobunaga states her distaste for the current state of the country, at least when it comes to military affairs.

"Well, I suppose I'll... have to think about that. I do have... commitments, you understand." You put off giving an answer immediately, while you were already sort of planning to give Nobunaga as much assistance as she might've asked you for if she actually really intended to go through with her current ambition of taking over Japan... again, you don't know if you can accept the role of General. Last time you carelessly accepted a role like that, you got saddled with the title of Forever Advisor by Mordred, which according to her own words isn't even something that ends upon death... though seeing as you're fully intending to create an underworld to abuse by coming back to life even should you end up dying, you... have to admit that Mordred's declaration was incredibly wise in hindsight. As usual, it looks like through either a great hidden wisdom and foresight, Mordred has once again managed something incredible, or she's just ridiculously lucky when it comes to stuff like this.

"Well, please do. I've got no intention of disappearing after saving this world, and I think that you're just the sort of person I need on my side to help me reclaim this nation!" Nobunaga makes a confident declaration, and earns a few stares from the children surrounding you. Alcides doesn't look all that impressed either, and Nobunaga just frowns. "But anyway, are you heading out? My Master asked me to provide support to anybody leaving the confines of this house." The girl explains the role that Rin has given her, and she doesn't really sound all that bothered to be following Rins orders... at least for now. It's pretty likely that Nobunaga respects the power of her Master too.
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"We are, actually, and I wanted to invite you to come along. We're off to go pay the Argonauts a visit." You cheerfully inform Nobunaga of your current aim. It's mostly just to make sure that Jason isn't actually doing something stupid. He's separated from everyone else, after all, and powerful Servants roam the city. While he's no doubt summoned powerful Servants to assist him, you kind of doubt that even the entirety of the Argonauts together would be able to defeat somebody with the effortless destructive potential Monica wields, or the nightmare in combat that the Morrigan and Cu together represent, especially not without Heracles with them.

"Hmm... Well, it doesn't exactly go against my orders to watch over anybody who leaves the house, so... I guess there's no problem!" The smaller woman smiles at you. "Lead the way." She starts to follow you along with the rest of the group you've amassed.

It doesn't long to find Medea in your workshop, Chiyome nearby, apparently on standby as she looks at the map with a relatively disinterested looking expression. While there are a few visible dots on the map that represent your enemies, the map itself has been refocused to just the city, no longer including the forest... or well, the lack of a forest. "Medea, Chiyome." You greet the two women. "I'm actually here to go and see the Argonauts, so I'd like you to teleport me directly there. I wouldn't like to risk traveling all that much again." After all, both times you were attacked, it was when you were on your way back from an outing. "Oh, and Chiyome... I know you've only just been given the duty, but I want you to come with me as well." She was the heroine who saved the day, after all.

"Very well, Master. I want to talk to you about something when you get back though." Medea suddenly thrusts her staff into the air and speaks. "Tροψα!" The surroundings around both you and your group swiftly shift, and you're soon standing on the deck of a boat that is currently floating in the middle of the harbor. Seems that the Argo is no longer docked. You don't get to examine your surroundings for long, as a startled looking group of heroes quickly react to your presence, there's no Jason among them, unfortunately. With Jason's absence in mind, it looks like you can't have him explain for you. How annoying.
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"What are you doing on this boat...?" The woman wielding a trident says with a threatening tone as she looks at you, Caenis. Behind her is a green-blonde haired Archer, who looks more irritated at Caenis than she does with the intruders. Clearly, she's noticed the fact that you've brought over half a dozen children along with you. There's nobody else on the top deck of the ship, it seems. Everyone else must be below deck.

>"Alcides, mind explaining?"
>"I'm a friend of Jason's... Sort of."
>"Put the weapon away, Caenis. I'm a friend."
>"Where's Jason? I want to talk."
>"It's a good thing that I'm not an enemy, because you're really outgunned here."
>Write-in...
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>>4815233
>>"Put the weapon away, Caenis. I'm a friend."
How many people did Jason summon?
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I'll post the status menus... uh.
Later
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>>4815233
>"Alcides, mind explaining?"
he WAS an Argonaut, after all
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>>4815233
>"Alcides, mind explaining?"

We should tell Nobu that we're technically the Advisor to Mordred, but if they can hash something out, feel free to do so.
We're probably going to come back to japan a lot anyway. Tokoyo, Tamamo, Benienma's resort, our home and Fuyuki, so I imagine we'd help her if she asks anyway.
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>>4815233
>>"Alcides, mind explaining?"
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>"Very well, Master. I want to talk to you about something when you get back though."
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>>4815233
>>"Alcides, mind explaining?"
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>>4815233
>"Put the weapon away, Caenis. I'm a friend."
>"Alcides, mind explaining?"

seems a good choice. Also, introduce the kids to Atalantea
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I guess there's not many voters around tonight.
Oh well, time to bed.
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>>4815083
It's looking more and more like she's replacing Goetia as the primary antagonist in the arcade version of pt1
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>>4815229
>"Have you considered my offer to make you my general yet, Makiri?"
Yk we talk a lot about Shinjibowl but never considered the several heroic spirits that will make us their advisors
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>>4815346
We can be the common point that helps all the conquerors stay cordial.
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>>4815233
>"Alcides, mind explaining?"

>>4815231
>"Very well, Master. I want to talk to you about something when you get back though."
WELP. MEDEABROS GET READY. OUR TIME MIGHT JUST COME AFTER ALL
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>>4815417
Time to make glorious half elves
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>>4815226
>Well, she's with her father and two brothers right now
Good for EMIYA. What a day this must be for all of them.

>>4815348
This. We don't want to be Nobu's general, but we need to be able to smooth things over between them and help them plan a smoother takeover.

>>4815417
I hate to do this anon, but she probably wants to talk about Amethyst. Medea's time will come, don't worry. And Satsuki's and Tamamo's. No more oblivious protagonist, no more being too afraid of our own shadow to even kiss the girls we love. The nightmare is over.

I love it when a plan comes together.
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>>4815233
>>4815277
Support
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Oh, and sneaky, sneaky WhatIs. Bringing Chiyome alone even if she wasn't part of the vote. We would have asked Medea to teleport her immediately once we saw her younger self, but this is obviously fine.
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>>4815542
>We don't want to be Nobu's general,
Well, more that we aren't really a general. As in we aren't good at strategy, we deal with tactics.
If Nobu asks us to solve some problems, kill some dudes then sure, but we arent leading a normie army.
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>>4815573
If she does something like make us the equivalent of Court Onmyouji(with the caveat that we dont use onmyodo) like Seimei was, but also for negotiating with and killing shit, I would accept that.
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>>4815573
What do you mean we aren't good at strategy anon? Being a general will be pretty much what we've already been doing, only at a larger scale. We'd be great at it. The problem is that it would be a downgrade compared to what we're planning to do. And we have so many other things to do, so many better ways to spend the time than babysitting a normie army.

>>4815580
I'd prefer a more generic Advisor title or an unofficial position.
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>>4815586
I take a General's strategy to be at the scale to theater warfare level normally. Which cities to take and how in general, etc. Theater level stuff, with individual battles being tactics, and squad or battalion level also being tactics.

From that perspective our only strategic decision was "stay and fight in Fuyuki".

>Frequently, however, a general is a staff officer who does not command troops but who plans their operations in the field.
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>>4815586
As for an unofficial position, there is no distinction between official or unoffiial if the daimyo/leader is telling it, the people believe it, and you are doing tasks related to it. We'll just get saddled with some appelation then..
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So really basic stuff

Don't anger Caenis

Don't anger Caenis when you're on the water

And don't assume the rest of the Argo crew even likes Alcides, nor do they like Jason.

They might have kicked him off the boat and taken it for themselves, with Caenis at the lead. Plundering is her thing.

You have to be respectful to her without simping, ideally best her in combat to get her to kneel to Shinji but it's a rest day.

I'd probably be asking where Jason is, while showing a bit of distain towards him, and having Alcides vouch for our legitimacy but not be the one explaining everything. Remember only Jason didn't see him as a monster, and neither of these two girls particularly like men.
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>>4815604
I'd probably use the kids as an in with Atalante and speak directly to her, ask her to talk Caenis down and get them infighting rather than angry at us.
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>>4815592
We are not a general and we do not command an army. Our strategic decisions will naturally be smaller scaled than what city to take. I see strategy as deciding what long-term goals to achieve and coming up with long-term plans to achieve them. Today's schedule that resolved the Shinjibowl was strategy, yesterday's disposition of forces and plan to deal with Orochi was strategy. How we plan to deal with Tesla is strategy. Our plan to take over the world and usher in the Age of Truth is most definitely strategy. Tactics then are the moment-to-moment decisions to overcome the obstacles to our objectives, both within and outside of battle. We've done tactics much more than strategy so far, but that's only natural.

>>4815605
Will you be making a write in, or do you not have the time?
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We're also lucky this is Alcidies likely pre-kids physically

>>4815606
I'm """"planning"""massah

I'm home for the arvo though so I have plenty of time
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>>4815607
Alright. Just make sure to namedrop Medea when introducing the kids to Atalante.
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>>4815233

>Ah, forgive the intrusion. Walking has become a bit dangerous of late so I’m taking precautions, especially with the kids.
>I’m here to meet Jason and his crew.
>Alcides, would you be so kind as to introduce us?

He can get Jason to vouch for us by Illya’s link if we don’t get into a fight right away.
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>>4815604
Caenis can literally gargle rocks, having a superpussy is a joke of a legend
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I don't wanna be hit by Poseidon Maelstrom while in open water, ok?
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Anyone wanna drag up the concept autism we went through for Caenis a few threads ago?
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>>4815626
I'd add something like "Caenis, I'm a friend. Alcides here will vouch I'm telling the Truth" early on, and "Girls, say hi to auntie Atalante, she's a good friend of Medea and I'm sure she'd love to talk and play with you". I'd also ask about the rest of the crew in addition to Jason. Otherwise looks fine. And do we even speak greek? You could just say xenia.

>>4815633
I can't even remember anything about Caenis other than having Illya eat Poseidon's core from her.
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also, I'm not sure about "she's living a very happy life". A bit too early to tell. Maybe "she found happiness"?
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>>4815633
Something about untouchable/untouched.
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>>4815233
>Atalante, Caenis, Alítheia here is my first daughter with Medea, you'd be glad to know she's living a much better life in the modern age, Alitheia, say hi to auntie Atalante, she's one of witch-mummy's close friends from way back when.
>Introduce the other kids to the two women, then send girls over to Atalante, tell them she loves kids and they should pet fluffy tail.
>Caenis, Atalante, did you throw Jason overboard or is he below deck? I wanted to show my daughters and their friends his boat, and also wanted to thank him for his cunning saving a close friend of mine from being consumed by a Goddess.
>Who else of the crew was summoned? Were you summoned with any kind of memory support? Or did Jason let you in on the situation at hand at all? My friend Alcides here might be able to explain a bit better, but you were all summoned into the modern era due to the threat of an Evil God that myself and my allies have since dealt with. He'll vouch for my trustworthiness too, as this is quite the irregular summoning for you both I imagine.
>I must warn you both however, although the purpose of your summoning has since been resolved, there's something worse on the horizon, but tonight, would you and the rest of the crew be interested in a feast fit for the Gods? I vow upon my life to show you all Xenia like the kings that hosted you on your journeys many millennia ago and I hope we can become good friends over a drink, Caenis. I happen to know someone who might drink even you under the table.
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Shuten vs Caenis drinking competition, TONIGHT
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>Haaah!? I told you I'm the Divine Spirit, Caenis. ...Huh? "The tyrant Caenis from the legends wasn't a god"? Well, that's true. I claimed to be a king, but I never called myself a god. So why, you ask? that's simple. By the way, don't you have any alcohol or meat?
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Never show Caenis sympathy either frens.

She hates it
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>>4815233
Switch >>4815545 to support >>4815653
Perfetto

>>4815657
I guess Caenis is a heavy drinker, huh?

>>4815660
Duly noted.
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>>4815653
>I vow upon my life to show you all Xenia like the kings that hosted you on your journeys many millennia ago and I hope we can become good friends over a drink, Caenis.
Pretty grandiose declaration suddenly?
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>>4815677
We had a feast planned, Xenia is just hospitality and pride/smug is a Shinji-ism
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>>4815681
>had
We still do
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>>4815683
Ye, I mean it was already something established, it's a very easy mental conversation to just mention to Medea which of the Argo are also coming over.

In the autismplanning I mentioned enough for them, did that translate to the actual write in for it?

It's 1pm, we have many HS, a big ass kitchen and loadsamonnie.

I imagine Shinji has, or had a winecellar before Shuten moved in, it might have survived for now if she's only been here a few hours and she's been able to come watch us coom.

She might have even actually used her Presence Concealment to watch
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>>4815693
I think the write-in's fine, yeah, but others might disagree.

If Shuten drank all our cellar, we'll just make a phonecall and have the stock of a few liquor stores delivered.

And she probably only listened in, I think she'd have said something otherwise. But we'll definitely need to make a trinket of True Detection too.
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>>4815693
she wouldn't even use her presence concealment for that, she'd just lounge around in clear view
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The only bits weird to me are

>>I vow upon my life
And
The end where we suddely say we want to befriend Caenis. Not saying we dont want to, but it seems sudden and not really part of the flow of conversation? I'd guess all the food, hospitality and drinking contest would be enough.
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>>4815701
The question is, would we have noticed Shuten, or anyone?
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>>4815702
reword it and I'll switch
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>>4815704
Doubtful

>>4815705
Me too
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>>4815233
>Atalante, Caenis, Alítheia here is my first daughter with Medea, you'd be glad to know she's living a much better life in the modern age, Alitheia, say hi to auntie Atalante, she's one of witch-mummy's close friends from way back when.
>Introduce the other kids to the two women, then send girls over to >Caenis, Atalante, did you throw Jason overboard or is he below deck? I wanted to show my daughters and their friends his boat, and also wanted to thank him for his cunning saving a close friend of mine from being consumed by a Goddess.
>Who else of the crew was summoned? Were you summoned with any kind of memory support? Or did Jason let you in on the situation at hand at all? My friend Alcides here might be able to explain a bit better, but you were all summoned into the modern era due to the threat of an Evil God that myself and my allies have since dealt with. He'll vouch for my trustworthiness too, as this is quite the irregular summoning for you both I imagine.
>I must warn you both however, although the purpose of your summoning has since been resolved, there's something worse on the horizon, but tonight, would you and the rest of the crew be interested in a feast fit for the Gods? I vow to show you all Xenia like the kings that hosted you on your journeys many millennia ago. I happen to know someone who might drink even you under the table.

Does this seem fine?
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>>4815709
You fucked up a line change anon. And maybe mention Caenis by name for someone who can drink her under the table?
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>>4815715
basically this, cade isn't a huge drinker
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>>4815715
Which line change? And I'll add Caenis by name at the end.
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>>4815719
line 2
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>>4815233
>Atalante, Caenis, Alítheia here is my first daughter with Medea, you'd be glad to know she's living a much better life in the modern age, Alitheia, say hi to auntie Atalante, she's one of witch-mummy's close friends from way back when.
>Introduce the other kids to the two women, then send girls over to
>Caenis, Atalante, did you throw Jason overboard or is he below deck? I wanted to show my daughters and their friends his boat, and also wanted to thank him for his cunning saving a close friend of mine from being consumed by a Goddess.
>Who else of the crew was summoned? Were you summoned with any kind of memory support? Or did Jason let you in on the situation at hand at all? My friend Alcides here might be able to explain a bit better, but you were all summoned into the modern era due to the threat of an Evil God that myself and my allies have since dealt with. He'll vouch for my trustworthiness too, as this is quite the irregular summoning for you both I imagine.
>I must warn you both however, although the purpose of your summoning has since been resolved, there's something worse on the horizon, but tonight, would you and the rest of the crew be interested in a feast fit for the Gods? I vow to show you all Xenia like the kings that hosted you on your journeys many millennia ago. I happen to know someone who might drink even you under the table, Caenis.
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>>4815719
>Introduce the other kids to the two women, then send girls over to >Caenis, Atalante, did you throw Jason overboard or is he below deck
End of the first sentence is missing, and the second should be in a new line.
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>>4815233
>Atalante, Caenis, Alítheia here is my first daughter with Medea, you'd be glad to know she's living a much better life in the modern age, Alitheia, say hi to auntie Atalante, she's one of witch-mummy's close friends from way back when.
>Introduce the other kids to the two women, then send girls over to Atalante, tell them she loves kids and they should pet fluffy tail.
>Caenis, Atalante, did you throw Jason overboard or is he below deck? I wanted to show my daughters and their friends his boat, and also wanted to thank him for his cunning saving a close friend of mine from being consumed by a Goddess.
>Who else of the crew was summoned? Were you summoned with any kind of memory support? Or did Jason let you in on the situation at hand at all? My friend Alcides here might be able to explain a bit better, but you were all summoned into the modern era due to the threat of an Evil God that myself and my allies have since dealt with. He'll vouch for my trustworthiness too, as this is quite the irregular summoning for you both I imagine.
>I must warn you both however, although the purpose of your summoning has since been resolved, there's something worse on the horizon, but tonight, would you and the rest of the crew be interested in a feast fit for the Gods? I vow to show you all Xenia like the kings that hosted you on your journeys many millennia ago. I happen to know someone who might drink even you under the table, Caenis.

It'll work out sometime.
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>>4815233
Switch again from >>4815663 to >>4815724
Third time's the charm.
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>>4815233
switching
>>4815653

to
>>4815724

solid retard moment there anon
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>>4815233
>>4815724
+1
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Is there a winner here?
Also did you know that Nasu once called CCC his best work? LOL.
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>>4815739
Give us some time, the write in just dropped.

Fucking Nasu
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>>4815743
Well, if I can't start writing in the next 20 minutes, I won't be able to get the update out before I start wagecuckin' it.
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>>4815233
Switching from >>4815621 to the filibuster >>4815724
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>>4815233
>>4815724
Support
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Is that enough support?
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>>4815744
I was about to ask you for those 20 mins, but >>4815724
is winning now. You can start writing.
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>>4815744
can I get uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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"Atalanta, Caenis." You look at the two women, the two of them are a little off-guard already, at having their true names so casually revealed. You proceed to be put a hand on the back of your dragon daughter and push her forwards a little bit. "Alítheia here is my first daughter with Medea, you'd be glad to know she's living a much better life in the modern age." You look mostly at Atalanta as you say this. "Alítheia, say hi to auntie Atalanta!" You lean in close and whisper. "She's one of Witch-mama's close friends from way back..."

"Medea is here? Jason said something about wanting to summon her in a youthful form but not wanting to deal with the consequences. I had assumed that he was simply talking about how his tale with her ended up." Atalanta speaks, clearly less on guard than Caenis already, though the fact that you're clearly not an enemy has also managed to put Caenis off of her guard as well. You wonder if Jason managed to get her under control by informing her of the danger to reality.

"She is." You state calmly, before you look at the gaggle of girls that are sort of milling around near you, and how Atalanta keeps taking glances at the girls. "Atalanta, would you like to meet my daughters?" The cat eared woman looks surprised, and you keep talking. "There's Alítheia, who I already introduced. Betty..." You point out your daughters as you give Atalanta their names. "Abigail, Tetsuka, and..." You look at the snake coiled around one of Alítheia's horns. You want to say that it's a female, for some reason. "Ourobora." You then proceed to move on to introducing Rin and Olga. "This is Olga Marie Animusphere, and this is Rin Tohsaka. They aren't my daughters though." Yet. "Girls, go say hello." Your daughters obediently follow along, the girls all walk over to Atalanta, who is unable to properly respond as she is swarmed. You then turn to Caenis, who is looking at her comrade be overwhelmed by children with an impassive look. "Caenis, did you throw Jason overboard, or is he below deck? I wanted to show my daughters his boat, but I also wanted to help him for his cunning in saving a dear friend of mine from being possessed and having her personality consumed by a Goddess." You want to make sure that Jason knows that you're glad for his loyalty to Illya, that loyalty has improved your opinion of the man by a great deal.

"Jason? I've not thrown him aboard yet, I probably would have, but he said that the world is in danger, and seeing as he's the only one who can use the Argo to summon more of the people who once sailed upon it... Well, I'll be honest, I was waiting until he managed to build up a sizable force before I took his boat." What an unreliable subordinate that this woman is. Her summon must've been accidental, surely? "What's this about a Goddess?" Caenis does sound interested by that comment, at least.
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"Oh, he managed to trick a Goddess into believing a plan that never would've worked, which gave me enough time to send one of my subordinates with powerful anti-curse techniques to undo the possession and seal the Goddess into a bottle." You pat Chiyome on the head absentmindedly as you explain what she did. She really is a useful Servant, and you're glad that she's so loyal to you. You're glad that you managed to break her curse, too.

"Hmmph." Caenis crosses her arms, at least she's put the trident away now. Looks like she might be reconsidering her thoughts on the leader of the Argonauts, considering his ability to fool even a Goddess. Somebody who fundamentally hates Gods like Caenis should naturally have a better opinion of anybody who manages to get one over on one of them.

"Now that you're aware that I'm an ally, would you mind telling me who else have been summoned so far...? Or if you don't know why you were summoned just yet, it's because of an Evil God that I have taken care of who threaten the entire World. Alcides here might be able to explain things to you a little better if you want though. He'll vouch for my story though, and he'll also personally vouch that the threat that still remains is an even greater opponent." Manaka might not yet have the same sort of offensive power that Orochi was capable of freely throwing around, but judging from how she wiped out that entire forest last night, it's clear that in many ways, her other powers surpass Orochi.

"Alcides...?" Caenis looks at Alcides for a moment, who doesn't say anything to dispute your words, before a flash of realization hits her, though she doesn't say much else. "Other than Atalanta and I? Castor and Pollux are below decks with Jason, same goes for Asclepius. He's apparently about to try to summon another one of us though." Caenis reveals that Jason is attempting to summon another Servant, you wonder for a moment who they could be, before you turn back to Caenis and look her in the eyes.

"Well, though the purpose you were originally summoned for has been resolved, with the threat looming on the horizon of a greater scope, you will still likely be needed her... But tonight, would you and the rest of the crew be interested in a feast fit for the Gods? I vow to show you all Xenia like the kings that hosted you on your journeys many millennia ago." You then smirk at Caenis. "I also happen to know somebody who could drink even you under the table, Caenis."
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"Oh yeah?" Caenis seems to take that as a challenge, and it was. Though unfortunately for Caenis, you really can't see her even getting Shuten tipsy before dropping. Shuten is, after all, the same girl who was given potent divine poison alcohol and liked it so much she kept it as a Servant. That same alcohol being strong enough to melt everyone around her, and she can drink that stuff. "Well, I don't feel as if you're being dishonest, and even if you weren't... I doubt I would have Atalanta's support anyway, should things come to blows." Caenis looks over at her ally, who is currently on her knees as Betty and Abby touch her ears. Rin and Olga just look concerned by the events, while Alítheia is receiving a headpat from the cat-eared archer.

You smile at Caenis "Thank you for not turning this into a fight..."

>"...I don't think you would've been able to threaten Alcides or Nobunaga here anyway."
>"Would you mind leading the way to Jason?"
>"How about a spar? I want to test my abilities against you."
>Just stay above decks, looking out at the city and making light conversation.
>"Caenis, how would you feel about having Poseidon's influence removed from your body?"
>Write-in...
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If you try and fight Caenis on the water you're retarded :^)))))))

Oceanic washing machine go wrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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And Caenis hates gods, a lot.

>>4815783
>"Caenis, how would you feel about having Poseidon's influence removed from your body?"
>If you feel the loss of power something you'd not want to give up, I can always offer you something in it's place. Talk to a few of the other Servants over dinner tonight, or even have words with Nobu here about what I can offer.
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>>4815788
I wonder what Nobu's NPs are like now, we still havent asked.
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Also, we're concepting the Argo into a human form so Jason doesn't die alone. That'll be his reward for helping with Ilya. All ships are female, so all we need to do is apply the concept of Humanity or Anthropomorphic so he gets his ship girl
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>>4815790
Just out and out asking it doesnt run into
>>4815660
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>>4815783
>>4815790
+1.
Cute cat.
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>>4815795
it's not sympathy, we knew her true name, so we would logically know her poseidon influence.

I mean if she wants to fight there's Alcides and DRIPCHAD next to us so...

But it's the sabbath today otherwise we go in the cuckcage again
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>>4815794
>Anthropomorphic
Rather this, we might need Humanity elsewhere.
Also, isnt the boat part of his Saint Graph?
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>>4815798
Well he had to build it from scratch so I'd assume no? Not as a lancer. As a Rider, yeah. But Lancer doesn't come with the ship as a default thing.

Otherwise it's his soulmate
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>>4815798
He had to build it, so I don't think so.
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>>4815800
Semiramis also builds her NP, so I guess it depends on hers also counts?
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>>4815805
Now that I think about it, its probably separate. Avicebron's Adam is most likely not one with him and its the same kind of thing.
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>>4815805
Semiramis shouldn't even have the Hanging Gardens.
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>>4815794
Speaking of shipgirls, aparently Nagato from Kancolle is a thing in Fate too. She fought Majin Okita.
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>>4815809
Nero Caster must have modelled her Organ Cannons off of something too
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I wonder if Shipgirl Argo will be strong.
Or what she'll look like.
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>>4815813
Drawfag, you're up
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Will this be our first time applying a concept to an item rather than a person in this manner?
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>>4815818
Maybe? The poor cunt died a lonely hobo living in the wreckage, refusing to leave her side until a chunk fell on him, ending his life.
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Jason x Argo is good civilization.
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I'd imagine facial markings like what is on the Port Bow, maybe a wooden headress like the bust in his bond ce?

White sail Grecian aesthetic robes with ropes as trimmings, and a necklace with a ship's wheel around her neck?
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Alternatively the concept of Life, Animation? Maybe not specific enough, Life might be a waste.
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>>4815825
What about personification?
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>>4815825
I think Tiamat would do well with Life if we want to double down on her Authority and theme. Otherwise what would be good for her, Harmony? Coexistence?
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>>4815827
With Personification you could create something like Goddess Columbia or Uncle Sam
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We made the cat very happy today.

>>4815790
Why not wait instead of making the offer right away? She barely knows us, and unlike Eresh we haven't pulled off anything outrageous in her presence. We could do it either at the feast, or tomorrow after she sleeps off the hangover and the shame of her loss to Shuten.

>>4815818
We applied Poison to Shuten's drink when we recruited her.

>>4815825
Life is definitely a waste, Animation will probably make her an animated doll.
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>>4815827
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_personification
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>>4815831
She'd be happier as a mother

I'm offering an out to just stripping her of her power. She resolves to use it as it's the best use of her shit situation, but if you look through her mats it's kind of what she wants most.

I kinda don't want to fight even though we have two hard counters with us, so I don't rock the boat and stuff up Jason's ritual.

Unless people want to leave Medeacunny to being cursed forever and not have Chiyome purge Aphrodite's influence.

Or even better, have Ilya vore her. Judging by how she had to actually inject a bit of herself into Galatea to animate her, Ilya might be able to succ in a bit of Aphrodite's Authority if she cleanses Medeacunny
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>>4815833
How about vivification? Would that work?
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>>4815838
I am not sure about having Ilya godvore Medea Lily, as she herself is a lot of god blood and Divine Words... It may eat a lot more than just Aphro even if she is there.
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>>4815839
>vivification
Odds are it won't create a shipgirl, just a fast boat that doesn't need wind in the sails and maybe recharges those who stand on her deck.

>>4815841
Ninja headpat it is
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>>4815838
Nah, I think she'd be happier running around the world hunting groomers and discord mods. She wishes to save all children, not have some of her own.

I don't disagree at all about Caenis, I just don't think it's the right time. We should wait at least after she's seen something to make her believe we can pull this off.

I was about to recommend heading down so we can purge Medea Lily the moment she steps out of the summoning circle, but we can wait and make small talk instead I suppose. I'd rather not have the kids in front of the scene though, or live young Medea cursed for a moment more than necessary.

I would not recommend having Illya eat young Medea. At all. She doesn't have a drop of mortal blood in her. Chiyome is the perfect solution, let's not overcomplicate things.
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>>4815843
Then Anthropomorphic is best still. Animation could also just animate the sails and ropes and shit, or make a self-moving boat.
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Do we concept the boat as soon as we get to land?

Just pause as we're getting off, hey Jason, here's something to show my gratitude for keeping Ilya safe

>Apply Anthropomorphic

The true Anti-Merlin. making BOOOBA instead of benis
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>>4815851
Maybe ask him first, even if we plan on doing it. He seems attached to the Argo a lot, so suddenly doing weird shit. . .
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>>4815851
I don't see why not. We were talking about bringing her to the mansion anyway, might as well invite her to the feast as Jason's +1.
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Anthropomorphic also has greekoid origins, it's only fitting

>>4815853
It'd have to be in private. Maybe don't mention the whole story, just "Would you like me to make her stronger conceptually so you'll never be separated again?"

>>4815854
Medea will find it hilarious
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>>4815783
>"Would you mind leading the way to Jason?"
Jason is trying to summon Medea Lily. Let's not waste any time to have Chiyome uncurse her. And it'd be better if the kids weren't in front for the aftermath.
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>>4815856
Yeah, anthropomorphic is perfect

If we're asking him we should tell him the whole story though.

And Medea will also find it hilarious that we uncursed her younger self before Jason could even touch her.
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>>4815858
it should really be a surprise. He'll fall for her immediately anyway. She'll probably be cunny due to Jason's preferences
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Will Argo-chan be Yandere for Jason?
She did kill him...
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>>4815862
That's why I said IF we ask him. It should either be full surprise or full disclosure, though a half-truth isn't that bad.
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Medea Lily has this weird ass Skill, wonder what that will turn into. . .

"Ephemeral Love

It was a fake love like a fragile bubble, wasn't it? Those sweet nothings you whispered were truly empty, weren't they? But, what's wrong with that?
Those whispers may not have been truths, and just about everything was a lie, but until the needle prick that burst it open - it was unmistakably, love."

This is the Skill description.
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>>4815857
He'd probably be a bit upset when we cuck him immediately, which is why we have a word with him in private about how he treated her, how she was being manipulated by Aphrodite the whole time and what he did was effectively rape^3

But then also thank him for his service, offer him a compromise with Argo-tan
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>>4815868
Yes, that cursed skill is exactly what we're having Chiyome purge.
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>>4815868
That's Aphrodite.
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>>4815864
She should be. already Bond 15 for him
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>>4815869
Sure, sure. But Medea first. Jason will cope.
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>>4815868
Henlo
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>>4815872
I bet she'll hate the evil witch who didn't appreciate him.
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>>4815873
curse purge then talk no jutsu. then shipwife forma de yandere maximo
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>>4815879
Agreed 100%
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>>4815876
He's all hers now though
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>>4815874
I appreciate the skullwings in the design tho. Reference to Aphrodite Areia is rare.
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>break her love curse
>proceed to one up her again by turning a boat into a girl easily
Dab on Aphroshite.
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>>4815883
thots KNEEL
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>>4815881
Yes he is. And they have a whole new world to explore together. I bet they're sailing away the moment we incarnate Jason after we secure the grail

>>4815883
Dab on all the shit goddesses.
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>>4815885
We need to dab on Kiara and Kama too.
Beloved makes us immune to all mental fuckery.
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>>4815882
Why are all love/war hybrid goddesses whores?

Freyja's another one.

Found this researching though

>Nanaya, goddess personifying voluptuousness, sexuality and sensuality.

Is this why he's such a rapechad? Mesopotamia roots?
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>>4815890
>dab on Kiara
Why would we want to dab on our daughter? :)

>Kama too
If we ever see her, we're doing more than dabbing on her. Illya has permission to eat her on sight.

>>4815892
That explains everything.
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>>4815896
I like Kama, sadly I can see that we'd be probably completely opposed as of right now. It's only a rando Sakura anyway, instead of ours.
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Remember that no matter how well we raise Kiara she's at risk of being mind vored by her CCC counterpart.
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>>4815898
All Sakuras that we see become ours.
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>>4815899
Sorry concept of Independence

Who gets the concept of Prime btw?
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>>4815898
I'm sorry anon, but there can be no compromise on this. I'll fight to have Kama vored on sight.

What do you like about her anyway?

>>4815899
Yeah, we'll have to protect her. Concept of Compassion has been suggested before, or we might have to figure something else out.
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>>4815902
I honestly couldn't name a specific thing, I just enjoy her.
I would probably try to argue for just jailing her from the Sakura and seeing if she can be made to work as something ala Ishtar, but not to the knife. Probably.
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>>4815901
I originally wanted Tamamo to have Prime so she'd be the one superior to Amaterasu in their soul hierarchy, but now Amaterasu herself is in play as an actor? Maybe?
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>>4815901
Waver.
For the lols.
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>>4815905
Kama is a part timer

I don't have that image of Kama stacking shelves on me somehow, pretend it's here.
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>>4815905
I would begrudgingly accept sealing her inside that Sakura's mind completely so that Sakura can use her powers, but not a work release program like what Ishtar got. I don't see any point at all, other than "one anon likes her". At this rate, Illya won't get to vore anyone. There's always one anon who likes the voree.
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Sakura can probably vore Kama.
Get to work on making Omnibeast Sakura.
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>>4815914
>I don't see any point at all, other than "one anon likes her".
Let the voters decide at that time, then. It's not like its a unilateral decision.
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>>4815790
>>4815783
Support. I see a lot of fanart with Caenis and Mordred so they can probably be friends
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>>4815917
Kama doesn't get to come out of Gay Baby Jail.
Poo Gods were right.
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>>4815920
That's also a good point. Unless Hindu Gods in the Reverse get dunked, then Kama of this Tree isn't getting out ever.
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>>4815919
Caenis has dialogue lines with Mo, they get on in game
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>>4815923
>>4815920
Well, to be specific. Kama got vaporized and scattered into the universe. It's Mara that's locked under Hindu Gods, and the actual "kama" that appears is the syncretized/fused Kama-Mara.
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>>4815915
She certainly can, but not without eating her meatpuppet too.

>>4815917
Sure thing, but I'll probably be pushing for Illya vore in that case. I still don't see any point at all in keeping Kama around other than "one anon likes her".
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I always wanted to put a concept on Jason's boat so we can summon people related to the Argonauts too, Achilles cause his dad was an Argonaut, Chiron cause he taught Argonauts etc
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>>4815923
Hopefully Vritra doesn't decide to go eat them or something.
Then again Vritra is a hard counter to Beast 3 so she could probably vore Kiara or Kama.
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>>4815927
I don't think we'll be able to do that if we give Jason his shipwaifu. We can summon Achilles whenever, we still have his dagger. And Chiron won't be hard if we use his students as catalysts.
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>>4815926
>I still don't see any point at all in keeping Kama around other than "one anon likes her".
This is why I said it as let the voters decide, as we don't actually know if its "one anon", only that at the time right now it appears to be only me.

So, I'll be banking on that, and devoured Authorities not having the Authority itself, just gets converted into pure energy.
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>>4815929
Alcides has Chiron's Immortality in King's Order, and he uses the weapons that killed him.

The spear Achilles uses was also a gift to his dad from Chiron.

We'd be able to direct a summoning circle well enough
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>>4815928
Wouldn't Vritra with her new emotions be more susceptible to mindfuck Beasts now?
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>>4815932
So Vritra would turn off their Nega-Skills and Beast stuff, but not the skills the Beast Candidate themselves would have, and Kiara and co are mindfuckers even without Beast shit.
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When Sakura vored Nrvnqsr do you think she got his ability to completely absorb people and their power/intelligence to use for herself?
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>>4815933
That'd be a moment when Shinji unzips Beloved of Alaya for a sec to no-sell it
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>>4815935
If any phantasmals ended up on the dinner table tonight we might see something interesting.

I always found the enigmatic attacks of a Soul Eater interesting and underexplored
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>>4815935
Seeing as her body isn't a shifting mass of Chaos Tide, I'd say either no, or its Sealed.
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>>4815783
>"Caenis, how would you feel about having Poseidon's influence removed from your body?"
>If you feel the loss of power something you'd not want to give up, I can always offer you something in it's place. Talk to a few of the other Servants over dinner tonight, or even have words with Nobu here about what I can offer.
>"Would you mind leading the way to Jason?"
Why not both?
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>>4815936
Right, we are completely immune, but that doesn't mean we should let others into mindfuck range, unless we want Kiara to melt them or something like that.
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>>4815941
Could be that it's restricted to her vore realm.
>>4815933
I doubt our Obstacle Dragon would be susceptible to mindfuck.
Also Asha Vajra rapes anybody without god tier regen.
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>>4815944
>Beloved of Alaya: B (EX)
An exceptionally powerful variant of Charisma, boosted beyond the logical maximum of the skill due to leaving an impression on the true form of Alaya itself. Kept subconsciously sealed to be roughly equal to Charisma equal to B usually. If this skill were to be activated to it's fullest, then any being born of humanity would be unable to resist the commands of the skill's owner, however, the actual method to unseal this skill is unknown.
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>>4815930
I admire your confidence in Kama's popularity.

>a Divine Spirit or even a God touched by Illyasviel for long enough would simply cease to exist entirely and their divine core would be incorporated as part of Illyasviel's own.
And it's more than energy. Illya vores entire cores.

>>4815931
Yes, exactly.

>>4815935
No.
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>>4815944
Vritra is mega immortal and eternal though.
Suzuka also no-sells mindfuck I think.
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>>4815948
>I admire your confidence in Kama's popularity.
It's less confidence and more hope.

>>4815947
You meant unsealing it? uh..

Also, I don't want to bet on anything with a mind against Kiara mindfuck that doesn't have an explicit anti-mind skill like Suzuka, Hopeman or something like that, its explicitly pretty encompassing and strong regardless of existential scale, and if you fuck it up its GG.
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>>4815947
Let's not brainwash people ourselves so we can save them from being brainwashed by her.
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>>4815954
>>4815953
last resort really.

Could just metagame the thing BB did in Seraphix and apply a bunch of code debuffs to negate her Authorities
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>>4815957
Or, and hear me out here for a bit, we could only bring people who are 100% immune to her mindfuck powers? If we activate Beloved we've lost, it's not a last resort, it's Mutually Assured Destruction.
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The part that makes me leery about sending anyone without mindfuck defense are the lines:

"...Like this, no matter how much power one has, it becomes meaningless before a Tenma."

"... against any sentient being possessing intelligence (pleasure), regardless of scale or structure."

These statements are the ones that give me pause regardless. If you feel any pleasure/lust/love you're straight fucked.
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>>4815961
I think Vritra could tank regardless.
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>>4815783
>"Would you mind leading the way to Jason?"

I'm not sure about talking about this right here and now is the best idea since we're not going to follow up on the promise immediately and we've barely met. And it is an offer to touch the most intimate part of her there is.

>>4815958
>>4815957
I do wonder, under what circumstances unsealing that skill would actually be a good idea. Maybe in a Reality Marble?
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>>4815965
I think she became more vulnerable now that she has real emotions. Being Eternal and unkillable doesn't make her immune to other avenues of influence.
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>>4815966
>And it is an offer to touch the most intimate part of her there is.
That's why the nigger wants to do it.

I honestly can't imagine any circumstances where we'd want to unseal Beloved. It's a massive drawback, not an asset.

>>4815968
Yeah, nothing in there says she's immune to mindfuck powers.
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Direct Counterforce link might help against slut nun desu.
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>>4815973
She is capable of fucking the entire Planet, so thats questionable. Mindbroken Alaya?
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>>4815975
Though Unbranching World may have made our version more powerful by a lot.
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>>4815976
It did, our Alaya is as strong as all the others combined. But why risk it? Strength doesn't mean immunity to mindfuck, and our Alaya is very much emotional.
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>>4815978
Mostly going by Beloved granting immunity, but I also wouldn't bet on it. The distributed nature may be the defense itself, and a direct link could be exploited? Who knows. Not me.
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>>4815978
Vritra is still a conceptual obstacle.
I imagine she apply that to resistance to mindfuckery.
We saw her apply it to stalemating Mordred at Halo.
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Alaya could attempt to possess Kiara and vore her mind directly.
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>>4815980
As much as you might hate that game anon, Halo is not a mindfuck.
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What state Kiara is even in at this point in time? Shouldn't she still be a child?

We should gather some intelligence. Maybe there's time to nip that shit in the bud still.
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>>4815985
Since Orochi at least had Nega-Divinity that means Beasts are active. Its said that if one Beast is active all of them happen. So at least a Beast 3 has to exist, even if its not Kiara and Kama-Mara.
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>>4815985
She's still a child in our world, and we'll be saving and adopting her next week. Our Kiara will grow up to be whatever she wants, probably a doctor.

But she is vulnerable to possession from herself from alternate realities where she wasn't so lucky. We'll need to prevent this.
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>>4815987
>tfw we just wanted to kill our grandfather and accidentally triggered an additional apocalypse on top of what was already happening because of presence in the multiverse
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>>4815783
>>4815942
Switch to
>"Would you mind leading the way to Jason?
Guess people don't want both
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>>4815988
We're going to need to find a way to monitor the timeline for incursions like that of Manaka(R) and Merlin. Especially if we begin to make more frequent excursions or usage of Second, prompting further retaliation/containment/raids of opportunity.
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>>4816001
Yeah, it really would be nice if we could respond to them before they became a problem.

As for retaliation, when we've dealt with Manaka we should work to establish a truce between our Alaya and the others. Merlin defected, they're currently evenly matched, and we can swing the balance of power in our Alaya's favor when our hands are no longer tied. They'll have to agree to let us be or else. That would leave only Beasts and other common enemies as our problem.
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>>4816006
Probably should talk with out Alaya tonight if possible.
A lot has happened, with Merlin and Vritra, we should have a chat with her.
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>>4816010
Yes, definitely Alaya tonight. We saved her from the beast, we turned the knife the other Alayas sent against her. We have to talk to her about our plans, and we need to ask her to to let Redman and Artoria retire.
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>>4816013
Artoria's contract already has a baked in escape clause. If she gives up on the Grail its void and null.
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What won?
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>>4816016
Isn't this only if she destroys the Grail of her own will? We don't want to destroy it, we want to secure it, purify it and use it.
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>>4815790
>>4816023
this but there's another vote that adds taking us to Jason
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>>4816023

>"Caenis, how would you feel about having Poseidon's influence removed from your body?"
>If you feel the loss of power something you'd not want to give up, I can always offer you something in it's place. Talk to a few of the other Servants over dinner tonight, or even have words with Nobu here about what I can offer.
>>4815790
>>4815796
>>4815919

>"Would you mind leading the way to Jason?"
>>4815857
>>4815966
>>4815991

It's a tie
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>>4816013
Also disarming the suicide bomb.
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>>4816029
Oh, right. I forgot about her. That too.
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>>4815783
>>4815790
+1
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>>4816030
Infinity or Boundlessness?
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So I guess we'll be letting Jason fondle Medea Lily for a while then.
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>>4816034
Both of those would kill us, and they seem kind of a waste for just a fixed core. Maybe Mending or something similar?
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>>4816025
She just has to stop seeking it. Essentially its not getting Alaya's pat of the deal, and cancelling it before it gets finalized.
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>>4815783
>"Would you mind leading the way to Jason?"
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>>4816034
Infinity is for Sasaki
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>>4816036
Its not really a core thing. Shes just unstable in general, as shes boundless. Like how Avenger Nobu is fundamentally unstable due to being too many things and being far from any "truth".
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>>4816036
Pretty sure we can fix her core without having to concept it.
Also Boundlessness is her whole shtick. If its fitting its easier to implant right?
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>>4816032
>>4816039
Tie again.

>>4816037
Well, I guess then Alaya will tell us the contract is already dissolved.

>>4816041
>>4816043
I admit I haven't bothered to read that much about her. Fitting concept means easier to concept yes, but a vast concept like boundlessness will still kill us like Time almost did. We'll need Dragon Core + Sash + dragon Alitheia at a minimum, and even then it might not be enough. Time was unique in its ease.
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>>4816043
Shift her from Boundlessness (Wuji) to Ultimate Taikyoku
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tfw should've already made the character sheets for Argonauts.
Oh well, it's not like any of them have anything different about them right now, so I might just leave the creation of sheets until after you concept or change any of them.
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>>4816041
Avenger Nobu is just proof that NP ranks don't mean jack shit.
Her Demon King transformation is A-.
Jack the Ripper's demon transformation is A+.
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>>4816053
Isn't Jack's transformation highly dependent on the area he's in?
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>>4816053
I think we already knew? Since stuff like Godhand reads Rank and not actual effect, so we knew was not one to one. This just cements it.
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>>4816054
It's A+ at it's highest.
and most Grail Wars will be taking place in a city anyway.
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>>4815783
>"Would you mind leading the way to Jason?"
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>>4816043
Maybe shift from being Boundless to Ultimate? Still a very strong concept but it has edges and definitions. May help her not fall apart.
0->1
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>A sword said to be wielded by a nameless Heroic Spirit.

>She split off from a certain Heroic Spirit, and was tasked to fight for eternity as a Guardian for humans.
>It is not known whether this fate was a curse or if it was indeed her wish.

>Whatever the case, it seems like she was enjoying herself despite the endless battle. >She must have been, since she liked to give names to attacks she claimed to be ultimate moves. But come on, show some mercy to the one always by her side. Quit throwing me!

>Speaking as the one who she's wielded, and who has been by her side for so long now, I once accidentally asked if she ever got tired of all this.
>Her completely serious, even deadpan response was, "Are you tired of it?" I was about to say that I was actually getting sick of it, but when she started to look sad, I said, "Not really," without thinking. Crap.

>"At the edge of distant time,
the gods, demons, and human prayers all intertwined to create this fragment of light.
It stands here, in the land of eternity."

Nobunaga named her sword "Purgatory", and it can talk to her. Cute.
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>>4816064
>the land of eternity.
Artoria in Avalon 2.0: Okita in Tokoyo when?
Its even a Utopia on on the "other side of the sea", island, has special fruit.
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>>4815783
>"Would you mind leading the way to Jason?"
to prevent ties
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>>4816062
Would Ultimate actually keep her from being a self destruct weapon though? As a notion it seems like it wouldn't be in conflict with this.

If I'm reading the wiki page correctly being a disposable asset is substantial part of what she is, so we could go about it either by turning her against her original purpose with something like
>Defiance

or to grant her ability to not die when killed, like Sakuranon earlier mentioned
>Mending
>Reconstitution
>Resurgence
>Persistence
>Integrity
>Wholesomeness

Although some of those might also doom her to eternal service which may in long term turn out to be subjectively worse deal for her.
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So are you actually planning on turning the Argo into a woman?
Because according the myth, it can in fact already talk.
Also give prophecies.
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>>4816130
Yes.
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>>4816124
I was mainly trying to rope the usual eastern super concepts that she seems to use to sword.

Wuji (Delimited, Boundless, Limitless) into Taiji (Supreme Ultimate, Zenith). This is a "natural progression", and the Taiji is ultimately stable and polar instead of nothing and non-polar.

As to whether that makes sense, thats different.
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