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You are Lieren, Grand Architect of Long-Jia, Head of the ministry of Development, Grand Master of the Wanderers in the Fog Sect, Beloved of Kanzeon, Enemy of tyrants and the wicked, Creator of the Journey and the Brother of Magnus of Prospero and one of the twenty sons of the emperor, A primarch. Having battled against Kamal Kanon, and subjecting your body to a training regime that would have killed any other man, you returned to your friends and loved ones to return to the duties of your office and your responsibility to the people of the kingdom. However, you began studying the Wuxing, the cycles of the five elements in an effort to find a means of gaining an upper hand against the more experienced Kamal Kanon to counter act the desperate measures he had taken to survive your confrontation with the dark lord of the Shuni.

In these studies you focused upon a traditional form of fortune telling, one that, along with the Wuxing, you had believed to be little more than wild superstition. This method of divination, named Zi wei dou shu or purple star astrology, revealed knowledge most unsettling and led to you discovering a previously unknown fifth lord of hell!

And despite taking every precaution, in your efforts to learn event he name of this mysterious being, brought calamity to you. Being torn from the arena you had prepared and warded with Null Denouncement Charms, you were dragged to a pit of hell where all things failed and forgotten were interred.

It was here, you met an imprisoned incarnation of order and refused to give into Despair. It is also here, were you have been forced into battle against a warrior older than Kanzeon herself. The first Damned, a spirit named Be'lakor, a opponent that surpasses you in martial skill.

Fighting a desperate battle in the grave of memories and nightmares, you hatched a plan to turn the tide against your seemingly indomitable enemy.
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Be'lakor charged, his face a mask of the boundless rage smoldering in his veins, his eyes blazing with his murderous intent. His blade forged of darkness was leveled at your breast, his wrist stiffened as his arms outstretched to thrust the sword which could freely pass through and cut any material directly towards your twin hearts. The Golden fires of your soul raged around the both of you, as Be'lakor endured their scorching touch as if in his focus he could no longer perceive the agony of being lit aflame.

Meet his gaze, you locked your eyes with his and drew upon every ounce of your resolve to draw the flames that danced around the both of you around the most wicked among devils. The flames condensed forging themselves into bars of solid, radiant light. Bars, when made of the proper materials, could hold a god. You had beheld such a cage when you met Isha and her captor the most abhorrent Na Gou!
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>>4957715

It was reasonable to assume that only the stuff of souls could contain that which is only spiritual in nature! And the blazing light of your will would keep his viper blade from shifting into shadow. The prison begins to form, shrinking around the ancient devil, and cutting into his cobalt hued hide. Like so many blades, the bars of the burning cage cut past his skin and into his flesh, searing what was once raw and red, seared and grey. Be'lakor spat, snarling in pain as he struggled onward, even as the cage began to slam shut and the bars burrowed deeper into his body. Sizzling fat rises against the bars of condensed and refined fire, as the muscle and sinew beneath cooked and then burned. The devil did not avert his gaze of blink, a pink froth rose against his yellowed fangs as he glared fury back at your contemptuous gaze. But he did not speak, even as you could hear the cracking of his bones and tearing of his roasting flesh.

Willing the bars of his prison of life to close completely, an action that will result in the rending or complete pulping of the spirit's flesh, you grin. And begin to gloat as he struggles nearer to you, ignoring the shrinking bars and the wounds they inflict upon his form, and the doom that hastily approaches him.

Laughing at his foolishness, the impotence of his struggles, you sneeringly explain the beast's folly. His rage grows to a blistering intensity you've never beheld in another being's heart before, be they mortal or not. Confident in your victory, you proclaim his defeat and outstretch your Guandao.

"Oh you first chosen do you not see that even now you do their will, trying to bring low one that would see them undone" You say, condemning his very existence between chuckles and sneers of laughter "Oh you think you are free or so serving the Dark". Be'lakor's eyes blacken, the smoke rising from his charred flesh turns black and his last step shudders to a stop as he freezes, back bowed, and gaze downcast.

"You were a pawn whom rose above your station but hiding under the table you are still a piece in their game" You mock, positioning it to thrust it through his neck for a clean kill before the cage reduces his flesh and bones to a slurry of boiled gore.

He remains motionless.

"Know here I declare it from my soul and know I bare no lie, I am Lieren and I am your Doom and Salvation from the Dark!" You roar and then

there's a queer snapping sound. Not like metal being bent until it could not longer withstand the stress and pressure. Not like a branch being broken of the knee. Or like a glass pane being thrown to the ground. Its melodic, yet piercing. Your realize soon what was broken.

Be'lakor stopped to resist the bars of the cage. And against them, his flesh won out. Marked and scarred by an interact patchwork of wheeping wounds and burnt flesh, he stands before you, the lines rearranging in the shape of the Journey's Lotus as if to mock you.
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>>4957716

In the breaking of his bonds, You can hear Chun Qiang's howling laughter. The lord of anarchy mocks you, as you mocked Be'lakor. You clench your jar, realize you allowed your contempt to trick your pride into announcing victory before the final blow has been dealt and see.

You see the fool was you! Kanzeon's concern washes over your mind as you curse yourself and try to land the final blow but.

In his rage, fueled by pain and his battered ego, Be'lakor out paces you with ease.

The head of your Guandao flies from its haft as he flicks his viper blade through the shards of his cage, between the light. You cannot help but to admire the mastery behind the movement. You doubt you could maneuver a blade with such finesse. The weapon can repair itself, but at the moment you are left holding what for all intents and purposes is an overly decorated Bo staff. For the devil cut it flat, rather than giving you a spear with which to fight!

Snarling, his words lost to him beneath the storm of his rage Be'lakor stand above you, bleed oozing down his chest as smoke rose from his burnt flesh. The crack along his horn had crawled further and deeper, branching like the roots of a great tree

"You are Nothing, but an impudent child who imagines himself skilled because those he's faced before fled before him in terror, or sought his servitude over his death" Be'lakor hissed, swinging his blade as you barely manage to regain the necessary clarity of mind to perform the carp's dance and avoid it's edge by a hair "I have no such handicap. It may please the gods, but I'll butcher you for my own amusement, FOOL!"

Swaying, and turning on your heels, you cannot avoid all of Be'lakor's strikes, as he cuts the armor Kanzeon gifted you, piece by piece, even as it begins to repair itself. He's toying with you, but his blade cuts through your flesh, mimicking the wounds of inflicted by your cage.

Red feathers began to fall serenely upon the still air!

What is your eight move, Lieren?

>"FUCK YOU!" harness your black rage and trade blows with the devil

>Laugh at your own foolishness, and unafraid of death, rush forward and attempt to pin his blade arm

>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor

>Throw the haft of your broken Guandao at him, and retreat to find a weapon in the tomb

>Write in
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>>4957718
>Write in
Back off to give our gear a chance to reknit
>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
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>>4957718
>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
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>>4957718
>>Throw the haft of your broken Guandao at him, and retreat to find a weapon in the tomb
RUYI JING BANG, AT LONG LAST
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>>4957718
>>"FUCK YOU!" harness your black rage and trade blows with the devil
>>4957739
I do not trust any weapon that come out of this place.
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>>4957718
>Throw the haft of your broken Guandao at him, and retreat to find a weapon in the tomb
Time for a mystery box.
>>4957743
I trust Lieren's eyes more than the option you're choosing. Seriously enbracing rage?
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>>4957747
I think that it's about time that Lieren embraced and channeled that aspect of himself (It's even one of the tenet of The Journey). His anger has always been seething within him, just beyond the sight of most everyone else.

I also feel as though, an artefact brought, back to the Material Realm from here, would be devastating at best.

Or it might go the other way, Malal might gift us with a real daemon slayer weapon, who knows. I just dont trust anything we find here, our anger is something that been with us from the beginning, we have some level of understanding of it.
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>>4957743
>I do not trust any weapon that come out of this place.
I tire of you paranoid MFers who insist on ignoring Malal's constant reminders that he isn't going to Laer Blade us.
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Deja vu, I've seen this before somewhere. Anyways, I suggest using our pole for a vaulting maneuver.
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>>4957718

>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor

Humility is something leiren still needs to master it seems. Still at the whim of his emotions.
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>>4957777
He isn't even 10 years old yet. Stands to reason he still has a long way to go, even for a Primarch.
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>>4957758
Have you ever looked up Wuxing? Him suppressing his anger is a vital part of him. You always must trim the weeds before they can strangle the garden..
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>>4957718
>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
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>>4957718
>Write in

>calm your thoughts, laugh at your own foolishness, and throw your staff made of living metal to stop his gate


Our staff is made of the same thing as kanzeon right?

If so we can order the staff to ensnare his feet, should keep him busy for the second needed to strike a devastating blow
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>>4957718
>"FUCK YOU!" harness your black rage and trade blows with the devil
Channel all of lierens dark rage that he always seems to hold at bay
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>>4957718
>Calm your thoughts, reflect on mistakes, trip the devil.
>Harness the rage, trade blows and strike with great fury

So long as we don't succumb, the rage will empower us.
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>>4957718
>>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
This whole clusterfuck will have been a good lesson in the end.
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>>4957718
>>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
>Write in
>Combine our flames with the light of another soul, call to Chen, a man so loyal and a friend so true, that he died for us and our cause. But even if he is death, our friendship still exist and will not be forgotten. Loyalty, valour and friendship cannot be killed or restrained by death or corruption.

"It s difficult to believe, that you can decide on your own. But it seems true you have now the desire to tear me apart. What will be next ? Perhaps the desire to decide who to fight or your own alignement ? Face it darkspawn, your mind may be free from them, but you have still several chains that bind you to their darkness. From your body, to your abilities and even your sword."
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>>4957718
This whole fight has felt less like a duel and more like a distraction. Another one of Chun Qiang's tricks for his own spiteful amusement!
> BREAK THE CAGE! RELEASE THE LIGHT! RESTORE HOPE!
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>>4957866
If we could break the cage, restore even a sliver of order to this grim and desolate universe, maybe that could make up for us fucking up big time and basically birthing a chaos god all by ourselves

Not completely but we're going to need some serious prosperity to atone this shit
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>>4957718
>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
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>>4957718
>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor

Giving in to anger is hardly ever a good thing - even if you're the Hulk. But calming ourselves down has always served us well.

>Throw the haft of your broken Guandao at him, and retreat to find a weapon in the tomb

There is a huge chance this could backfire on us, but if there's even the slightest chance we could roll out of this with the RJB, or some kind of demon-slaying weapon, I'd have to take it just for the cool points.

But I still fear with every choice we take that makes us more Warp-aware, what the hell the Emperor's reaction will be. Sans Magnus, this is well outside what he wanted for the Primarchs - and even Magnus was kept in the dark about the worse aspects of the Warp.
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>>4957963
I mean. . We are actively spitting in the eye of the foul gods of the warp. I don't think his fears of loyalty or corruption are going to be realised.
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>>4957718
>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
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>>4957718
>>Throw the haft of your broken Guandao at him, and retreat to find a weapon in the tomb
>the donut steel instawin write-in with inbuilt edgy victory speech did nothing but break our weapon, sunburn be’lakor, and make us look like buffoon
color me shocked
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>>4958021
Given what it takes to sunburn the first daemon prince, that's still some good damage.

It was the speech that made us lose. Never monologue about victory until you hit them, otherwise trench has to support him.
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>>4958022
good damage on something that isn’t a daemon prince, maybe
if we tried the cage on a deldar, they’d be chicken fried, but be’lakor is as close as you can get to a canon god of undivided
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>>4957718
>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
>Laugh at your own foolishness and thank him for reminding us to control ourselves.
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>>4957718
>>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
>Laugh at your own foolishness
Only this part of the second choice. This is what I can see Lieren do
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>>4957718
>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
>Throw the haft of your broken Guandao at him, and retreat to find a weapon in the tomb
Can't wait for another write-in saying to instantly decapitate and win, only for Lieren to get hurt and drag the fight even more.
Like it happens every time.
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>>4958364
This most recent one was the most egregious. Here’s hoping the lesson sticks this time around.
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>>4958372
Clearly you're new to the board
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>>4958372
I hope so, the entire battle with Huli Jing was people repeatatly voting to coup de grace her, failing, hurting ourselves more in the process than the ither options would, and than doing it again until she died.
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>>4958364
I'll be honest, All I saw from the last write in was

"Use our move to cage Belakor and try to sync it up with Nurgles move so that some manner of divine mandate makes holding actions better."

Guess I need to read better.
And yeah Lieren would laugh at himself for that, so I'll add it to my vote here >>4957811


>>4958377
I think you were forgetting the "Cannon ball through the wall to escape" and "Hide to observe her" and "play mind games to fuck with her" votes
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>>4958403
Those were default options that won because no one made a write-in, and I'm sure the cannonball only won because it sounded crazy, not because we needed to leave the firy place.
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>>4957718
>>Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor
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>>4958427
The mind game things were write ins.

And your lack of faith in the anons of this quest is disappointing.
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>>4958434
More like my disapointment led to the lack of faith.
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>>4958434
Over the course of this quest we've only had two or three write-ins that have seriously impacted Lieren's story. The vast majority of the other write-ins been in combat and have either been for flavor or attempts at instawins.
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If you want to write-in something that is significant and is likely to be helpful why not use the new knowledge we have gathered and apply it to our current problem? Wuxing is something we've researched thoroughly yet nobody has thought to make use of it.
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>>4958478
I'm pretty sure someone wanted to use the element of earth against Be'lakor's fire last thread, but it didn't get traction.
Doesn't hurt to try I guess.
>>4958364
Changing to
>Remember the lessons of the Journey to recenter your thoughts and emotions.
>Try use your new knowledge of Wuxing to your advantage against Be'lakor. He seems to be a being of fire and smoke, so channel the element of Earth using the stone coffins as your focus.
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>>4958520
>+1
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>>4957718
>>Throw the haft of your broken Guandao at him, and retreat to find a weapon in the tomb
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>>4957718
> Throw the haft of your broken guandao at him, and retreat to find a weapon in the tomb.

As someone who once upon another quest that pretty much ran on mystery boxes, I am going for the mystery box.
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Calling the vote now.

Repair the Guandao:1

Calm your thoughts, reflect on your mistake, and throw your legs to trip Be'lakor:14
-throw your staff and command it to ensnare his feet: 1
-Remember the lessons of the Journey to recenter your thoughts and emotions.:2

Throw the haft of your broken Guandao at him, and retreat to find a weapon in the tomb: 6

"FUCK YOU!" harness your black rage and trade blows with the devil:3

Pole vault over Be'lakor: 1

Combine our flames with the light of another soul, call to Chen, a man so loyal and a friend so true, that he died for us and our cause: 1

BREAK THE CAGE! RELEASE THE LIGHT! RESTORE HOPE!:2

Laugh at your own foolishness and thank him for reminding us to control ourselves.:4

Try use your new knowledge of Wuxing to your advantage against Be'lakor. He seems to be a being of fire and smoke, so channel the element of Earth using the stone coffins as your focus.: 2

Total votes: 25


So Lieren will calm himself, reflect on his mistake and then attempt to trip Big Bastard B

Writing now
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You endure the assault, and the pain it brings. The scent of blood fills the air, but you refuse its invigorating allure. Rage may be able to be refined into a weapon when it is focused, but it can also become an insurmountable handicap. Be'lakor has been attempting to employ the same tactics you utilized against his weaker kin. Enraging you to the point of madness, so your movements before sloppy and your mind becomes clouded with bloodlust and fury. While he himself has been consumed by his rage, it seems as though it is his natural state of being, to some extent. It doesn't hamper his planning now upset the rhythm of his strikes. Serenity in the chaos of his wrathful mind. His is an existence wholly consumed by spite and contempt. You are unlike him, your rage though powerful remains caged and controlled. Even when it proves useful, you tightly grip its leash. Though it wells up in your heart, fueled by same and hatred directed towards your own foolishness, you calm yourself and immerse yourself in the serenity of nothingness.

Drops of blood spray against your face, as you focus on the carp style's graceful movements, even a slight miscalculation of your next step could prove crippling or even fatal. The trained elegance of the technique, reflects the natural fluidity of a carp swimming in a pond. Twisting, turning, swaying, leaping. It's title is well earned, for every dodge appears to be a fragment of a precisely choregraphed dance. But every step and adjustment of the legs and body is efficient, and wastes little to no energy in its movements. Reflecting upon the martial style you're forced to commit all of your efforts into using, brings your thoughts back again to your failure.

Like a slick of mud besides an otherwise pristine river, clouding its waters.

Pride and over confidence. Self assured idiocy. You assumed your trap unbreakable. The force of your will peerless beneath and even within the heavens. Hubris. A deadly poison. One you had thought excised, but upon reflection you realize. Are you not proud of your martial capabilities? Mocking your opponents, infuriating them and though they deserve no respect and the tactic has proven most effective, such mockery is still a symptom of a prideful heart. It was only now that it became an illness, if even for a moment. Self reflection is a tenant of your journey, which teaches to consider what one considers their virtue to ensure it does not decay into will full ignorance and self righteousness. You had allowed your trusted technique to become tainted with pride. It must not happen again. Mockery, while effective, should only be spoken when one's opponent is already overcome or is otherwise unable to interrupt the insult.

Be'lakor, in your blind certainty of your cunning, had overcome what you thought to be a killing blow. And you've suffered for it. This is a lesson that must be kept close to your heart. The lesson?
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>>4958827

To not allow yourself to mistake mocking, insults and disparaging remarks as fact. To keep your thoughts from being clouded by the glee of victory preemptively. And the dangers of overconfidence in your own wit and ability. Sighing, you open your eyes and lick a trickle of blood away from your lips.

Now serene of mind, you understand. Be'lakor's insults had found root in the soil of your mind. Otherwise you would not have thought to humiliate him, and subject him to the branding of the cage. Your rage it would seem, had learned how to hide its presence as you yourself are able. It is almost amusing, why pondering it almost makes you want to laugh at yourself. Guarding a blow with the middle length of your "Staff", you allow Be'lakor to split it into two equal but smaller lengths.

"So that's your plan" Kanzeon whispers, her voice rattled with worry and fear. You just smile in response, as you reinforce the wrist guards and vambraces of your armor. Charging under Be'lakor's swing, you catch his wrists with both of the shortened poles, and twist your arms to upset his posture, and this his balance. He raises a leg to kick you away, his wrist turning as his blade shifts. There's only a moment to act, failure will be catastrophic. Throwing your legs out, you use your enemy's own strength and sturdiness as an anchor, lifting yourself from the ground by his arms.

Sweeping both of your feet towards his legs, you slide the broken staff pieces away from his wrists to direct the momentum of your fall against him.

Pushed by his own weight, he tumbles. But grabs the crook of your back, digging his claws through your armor. And so you to, fall to the ground, slammed against your back.

Both of you scramble to your feet, disoriented. He rests against his blade of shadows, eyes narrowed with murderous wrath, you reconnect your split staff, and twirl it to your side before driving it through the ground.

Then, reality shatters. A red feather drops to the floor and the tomb's foundations shake.

NO! BEGONE, INTERLOPER!

The lord of anarchy's childish whining carries through the air as, like clear water, the air shimmers and flashes between all the hues of a rainbow, and a smattering of colors that do not exist in the mortal plane. Through the waves of energy, a red hand emerges, and a familiar presence settles at the back of your mind.

"BROTHER!" You shout as Be'lakor snarls.

What do you do, Lieren?

>Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy

>Force your brother away, you'll not endanger him so terribly!

>Use the distraction to repair your Guandao

>Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light

>Write in
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>>4958828
>Use the distraction to tackle us both towards the caged light
>"My brother! You are foolish for coming here, but it is a folly I am grateful for. Your wisdom and insights I would be most appreciative of!"

I want to take his hand, But the distraction and the fact that this is a trial are too important to ignore.
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>>4958831
And come to think of it, some biomancy putting us back together wouldn't go amiss if he can manifest properly.
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>>4958831
Supporting.

If I thought for a second we'd have the time for it I'd grab it and pull him through, as it stands though Be'lakor is operating on "talking is not a free action" and pulling him out would only get us stabbed in the face.
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>>4958828
>>Write in
Take our brother hand, but instead ask him thanks to the connection we have, to combine his power with our own. We will shoot a combined psychic blast towards Be'lakor and throw him right in the cage of light, this time though we will not remain idle, we will act immediatly.

After having done that Magnus will push the cage in the darkspawn body, while we will create Null Denoucement runes in the air, for then applying them to each bar of the cage. During this we will recite the Journey for weaken the power of the fallen.
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>>4958831
this
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>Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light
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>>4958831
supporting this one
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>>4958831
+1
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>>4958828
>Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy
>Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light
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>>4958828
>>Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy
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>>4958828
>Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy
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>>4958828
>>Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light
>searching for a weapon didn't win
Pain
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>>4958828
>Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy

>>Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light
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>>4958828
>Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light
>>4958866
you niggas dont learn, do you?
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>>4959035
What the hell you even mean ?
It s a normal write in, no mention of ending the fight in one move. Or is because of the write in it self ?
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>>4958828
> Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy
> Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light
> "The cage Magnus! We must free the light!"
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>>4958831
I can support this. We can thank him when the threat is done
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>>4958828
>>Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy
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>>4958828
>Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light

We've got to protect our brother.
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>>4958831
+1
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>>4958828
>Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy
>Use your new knowledge of Wuxing and Magnus abilities to channel an element against Be'lakor
>Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light
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I hope Magnus gives us a Mini Magnus like he did Kitten.
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>>4958828
>Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy
>Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light
If this is a straight up heavenly tribulation despite not seeking it out, then just bailing with Magnus would mean we get no reward out of it, I hope merely accepting his help won't disqualify us or screw him over since I'm unsure of the Xianxia/wuxia rules of heavenly tribulation.
Freeing the imprisoned god of order with our brothers help and getting the hell out of there seems the most sensible thing to do otherwise.
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>>4959231
After some thought I'm changing my vote.
>>4958831
+1
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>>4959231
Wait, God of Order?
Did I miss something?
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>>4959444
Well, there used to be the Gods of Law, gods of chaos who were allignes with order. There's Solkan the god of fiery retribution, Alluminas the god of light, and finally Arianka, who's been defeated and imprisioned by an unamed Chaos God.
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>>4959468
Oh, and that's old lore for Warhammer Fantasy, so it makes sense that they would be stuck here in retcon land with Malal
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>>4959468
>Arianka, who's been defeated and imprisioned by an unamed Chaos God
I thought it was Tzeentch?
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>>4959484
All the references I can find say unnamed, but maybe there's some revelation on the Kaleb comic, since I never actually read it and they were created by the same autors.
Fuck, the hidden weapon option was going to be the Dreadaxe, wasn't it? Is it too late to still go looking for it?
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>>4959502
It was 1d4chan that said it was Tzeentch, so we might need a grain of salt or two there.
>Fuck, the hidden weapon option was going to be the Dreadaxe, wasn't it? Is it too late to still go looking for it?
So long as we didn't miss our chance at getting the Ruyi Jingu Bang, I'm willing to accept the loss graciously. The Dreadaxe would've been tight though.
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>>4959231
I don't know how heavily this heavenly tribulation works. To me, it sounds like warp-dabbling in the context of 40k and should be avoided.
>>4958828
>>Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy
But try to flee together asap.
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>>4959994
>>4959231
Heavenly Tribulation isn't something you can escape since it is the first step to proving your Dao in a way.
The basic idea of it is that Heaven hates cultivators so Heaven punishes/challenges them with Heavenly Tribulation as a roadblock but if breakthrough that roadblock Heaven can't do shit to you until you reach the next roadblock and you get a massive power boost.
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>>4960108
>Heavenly Tribulation isn't something you can escape since it is the first step to proving your Dao in a way.
>The basic idea of it is that Heaven hates cultivators so Heaven punishes/challenges them with Heavenly Tribulation as a roadblock but if breakthrough that roadblock Heaven can't do shit to you until you reach the next roadblock and you get a massive power boost.
Are you sure you are not a daemon promising unlimited power? 40k is rather dystopic.
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>>4960116
It's literally the process of becoming a self-made perpetual/god. Daemonhood is the Heaven approved method in this context.
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>>4960123
In the oldest context 'daemons' are just spirits. So I suppose the distinction is *what* they are, and more what they *represent*. Lieren seeks to uphold things like Truth, Justice, Harmony, Hope, etc.

Though to be fair, daemonhood in general seems to be the end result of having most of 'you' scooped out/consumed and replaced by X. Not unlike ego death, in a way.
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>>4958828
>>Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy
>Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait, internet was down for the entire day! Aren't machines spirits COool!?

Use the distraction to tackle Be'lakor, throwing the both of you nearer to the caged light:17

"My brother! You are foolish for coming here, but it is a folly I am grateful for. Your wisdom and insights I would be most appreciative of!": 8

BY OUR POWERS COMBINED, write in: 1

Grab Magnus' hand, and accept his offered aid, fighting against the will of anarchy: 9

"The cage Magnus! We must free the light!": 1

Use your new knowledge of Wuxing and Magnus abilities to channel an element against Be'lakor: 1

Total votes:22

Alright, So Lieren will use the distraction provided by Magnus' breech to tackle Be'lakor, throwing both himself and the demon towards the Caged light

writing now

Sorry again for the wait
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>>4961204
>internet was down for the entire day
Looks like someone forgot do administer the hourly Litannies of Noosphere Connectivity.
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>>4961204
Try setting up some incense for your computer.
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All that is immaterial, the very fabric of what passes for reality in this corner forgotten corner of hell shudders. The stagnant air splinters, the ground fractures, the nameless dead howl in agony as the tomb begins to alter and shifts on a less than atomic level. Your brother is forcing himself through the veil between unreality and nonexistence to come to your aid. Such brotherly camaraderie! and you've only known him for the passing of a few seasons and already he cares for you deeply enough to brazenly venture into the darkest depth of hell, despite the dangers of such a venture! It warms the heart and strengths the spirit! That the bond between two brothers recently introduced could be so strong! Just the sight of his crimson hand is enough to reenergize your resolve, and ease the many agonies afflicting your flesh and mind! The presence of kin, in the darkest hour! Like the rising dawn heralding the end of a deep night! The comfort his entrance brings is comparable to a well tended hearth, while assailed born from the coldest depths of winters heart!

"It also creates an opportunity! Stop contemplating and take it!" Kanzeon barks, her words reverberating through your skull and keenly piercing through your mind "before it slips from your fingers"

"As you command!" You snarl, as you turn away from Magnus and his struggles to find purchase to fully pull his avatar into the tomb of the forgotten and lost. Be'lakor turns to face you at precisely the same moment, your gazes meet. The embers of dying hope and the blaze of its rebirth meet as the very air that surrounds you boils and fries. The ghostly lights dim, and the tiles lining the tomb's floor begin to audibly wail and sob. He Swings his blade. You pull the shards of your shattered cloak back to your shoulders, as its fire flares and forms into an armor styled in a fog panther's visage.

"As you will die!" Be'lakor roars, his blade solidifying as he brings it to your chest, but at the very moment its ever sharpening and rehoned blade would strike you across the breast he is further distracted. Before his eyes would dart between you and the tear between worlds that Magnus had forced into being through the sheer power of his will alone, but now, his head swivels to face the breech.

"BROTHER!" Magnus screems, his ever shifting eyes appearing in the stygian shroud of nonexistence. Lighting, hued red, peels from his hand as he at last perceives your opponent or at least the shadow he casts in the shallows of the "Great sea". Reflexively, he alters his weapons path to block or redirect the arcs of psionic energy, incarnated as pure electricity. A trick you utilized against your first encounter with a spiritual adversary!

You bow your back, lowering your center of mass as you throw you arms outwards and leap. Your chest impacts against Be'lakor's trunk. Soot, boiling blood, and raw flesh smear against your face and neck,
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>>4961281

before the cloak formed from your ever burning spirit cleanses you of such filth.

Wrapping you arms around your opponent's back, just beneath the protusion of his wings, you latch on firmly and tightly. If you were stronger, you'd attempt to crush his spine beneath your hands, but alas, even with your agonizing training you do not possess such might. Instead, you allow the golden flames that surround you to set the devil alight, aggrevating his still weeping wounds and worsening the burns that cover his body.

The red lightning arcs away from the both of you, as the viper blade turns. Be'lakor adjusts his grip, attempting to drive the edge of his living blade through your back. But alas, he is too late. In defending himself against your brother's psykerist attack, he had left himself vulnerable and completely open to your daring manuver. His feet slip from the ground, lifted by your weight and the momentum carried by your raw strength. Both of you fall backwards, deeper into the tomb as it is cast in scarlet light by the arcs of soul lightning flowing freely from your brother's hand and the passage he has torn through spiritual realm.

And then it is replaced by the comforting glow of order, the victim of an unbalanced world. The cage of light chimes, as you and the devil meet the ground with a resounding crash, becoming a tangle pile of limbs as you struggle against each other. You to free your arms from beneath his bulk and escape, and he to maneuver his blade to a position were he is able to strike you from. It is a very ungraceful and clumsy scene, opposed to the elegant and skillful dance of death that proceeded it.

Beneath your cloak, Be'lakor is burned, the smell of his charring flesh hazing your mind until.

"Are you helpless without me?" Kanzeon playful teases as a great burst of green hued energy and arcs of plasma erupt from your armor "Get up! and pummel him! I've calculated that is the most efficient course of action you can take!"

What do you do, Lieren?

>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?

>Step back, repair your Guandao, and stand by Magnus

>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.

>Use your knowledge of the Wuxing, and devise a technique derived by elemental metal to act as a lightning rod, and draw your brothers unmatched power to yourself, catching Be'lakor in the middle of the storm

>write in

>>4961244
That has seemingly worked before, actuallly. I just don't have any sticks atm

>>4961209
lol
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>>4961284
>Devise a technique based on metal to draw our brothers power around us
>Rush to the Cage, drawing on the positive Qi

Once we get this attack through, get to the shard of order. Its light should deny the viper blade its ability to change shape.
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>>4961284
> Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?
CATCHETH THESE HANDS SINNER!

> Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.
This is what I've wanted all along. We knew from the beginning that the light was something special, and the more Lieren basks in its glow, the more desperate and enraged Belakor and Chun Qiang become.
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>>4961284
>>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?
This is a priority but if we get a chance?

>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.

We gotta break the setting if we can ever hope to break the cycle.
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> Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.
This is what I've wanted all along. We knew from the beginning that the light was something special, and the more Lieren basks in its glow, the more desperate and enraged Belakor and Chun Qiang become.
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>>4961284
>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?
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>>4961284
>That has seemingly worked before, actuallly. I just don't have any sticks atm
YOU REQUIRE THE SACRED INCENCE TO APPEASE THE MACHINE SPIRIT OF YOUR COGITATOR, LEST IT ANGERS AND DECIDES TO BREAK IN RETALIATION
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>>4961284
>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?


>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.
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>>4961284
>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.
>Use your knowledge of the Wuxing, and devise a technique derived by elemental metal to act as a lightning rod, and draw your brothers unmatched power to yourself, catching Be'lakor in the middle of the storm
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>>4961284
>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.
>Use your knowledge of the Wuxing, and devise a technique derived by elemental metal to act as a lightning rod, and draw your brothers unmatched power to yourself, catching Be'lakor in the middle of the storm
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>>4961284
>>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil.
This demon needs a good ol' fashioned beating. We've got the superior positioning and it's stunned - so let's see how well we can flatten his face.

Once he's properly stunned:

>>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.

Hey maybe we can pry the bars open like Conan, release whatever's inside?

Also, Magnus is straight-up *here* now. I wonder how that skepticism of his will hold up against this?
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>>4961579
I had to contain myself from writing out
"Hey magnus?! Still think I'm being paranoid about supremely powerful warp beasts that want to kill us all?!"
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>>4961284
>>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?

Kino
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>>4961598
I dunno, considering we fucking summoned it into being ourselves...
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>>4961284
>>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective? Best to utilize carp dancing here as well.
Everyone isn't Kung Fu Fighting, but we most certainly are.
>>write in
>Brother! The being in the cage is our ally! Free it!
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>>4961598
"Fuck off, Lieren!"
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Now I don't want to take on the role of the cynic, but are you guys sure that channeling this "God" of orders power or freeing him is a good idea?

Maybe it turns out that he's just as bad if not worse than the chaos god's, at the end of the day they're warp entities and therefore a tumor upon reality, they should all be wiped out
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>>4961651
They aren't unknown variables, it's established lore that they're diametrically opposed to the Chaos Gods. Perhaps even more so than our father, depending on which of his origins you subscribe to.
>they should all be wiped out
Not really possible, but love the energy.
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>>4961630
Well we had to prove they existed SOMEHOW
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>>4961651
>>4961656
I wouldn't be surprised if one or two 'Gods of Order' would be opposed to a human-dominated galaxy. Though, to be fair, the Great Crusades were low-key being influenced by Chaos from the beginning, and it would have served the Imperium better to consolidate and concentrate their dominion in a tighter 'ball' that could be far more easily defended and supplied.
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>>4961579
He'll probably think that id HE did it HE would have been more responsible, and careful than we were (which is probably true), and this bad thing wouldn't have happened. This is a result of our inability and inexperience, a mistake that a master of The Warp like Magnus would never make.
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>>4961656
As long as we don't end up as it's worshiper or champion then it's cool, humanity is our "God" ,these warp tumors are just recourses and obstacles to our cause
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>>4961735
I get what you're saying, but at the same time I think we all know how the Emperor would respond to that line of thinking verbatim.
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>>4961284
>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?
But see if we can beat him closee to the cage? Synthesis the Fog Panther techniques for offensive attacks, and Carp Dance for defensive.
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>>4961284
>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?

>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.
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>>4961284
>>Step back, repair your Guandao, and stand by Magnus
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>>4961284
>>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?
>>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recove
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>>4961284
>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.

Imagine all the primarchs are finally found so Papa E kicks off the council of Nikaea because Lieren Released TWO Empyreal gods before even being found. At this rate he is going to meet a c'tan shard, Gork and or Mork, Cegorach and play wrestle with an Avatar of Khaine.
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>>4961284
>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective? Towards the Cage
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>>4961830
I am most certain our time during the Crusade could be summarised as the big players throwing darts on a wall to see what's the emergency of the week for us to face but the darts sometimes shoots back.
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>>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?
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>>4961284
>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.
>Use your knowledge of the Wuxing, and devise a technique derived by elemental metal to act as a lightning rod, and draw your brothers unmatched power to yourself, catching Be'lakor in the middle of the storm
Whatever gets us closer to the law god, hopefully freeing it is possible and it's mostly benign, I doubt Lieren would be getting good vibes from it if it was like Alluminas or Solkan
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>>4961961
>>4961929
>>4961921
>>4961830
>>4961822
>>4961768
>>4961764
>>4961762
>>4961752
I haven't had the opportunity to follow along with the conversation, but didn't The Emperor pull a Zimbabwe African Prince on the chaos gods once, then got an uber power up? We could possibly do something similiar for the cage god/thought form of Order. I just wanted to bring that up.
Sorry for all the (you)'s.
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>>4962222
It depends on who you ask because Warhammer canon is about as solid as a filled condom.

He could have tricked the chaos gods, he could have gotten a legit powerup from a portion of "untainted" warp, he could have straight up pulled a kirby and eaten a minor god for a powerboost, we don't know because everyone who can tell that story has a vested interest in spinning it harder that a news station during an election year.

The only thing you can know for certain is that /something/ went down in the past to make the big 4 think they were "cheated" if only because Big E was more than willing to flip the fucking table instead of pulling up a chair and being subsumed into one of the 4 like the rest of the fucking scrubs that pop out of the warp.
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The emperor's policy of don't ask don't tell in order to starve the chaos gods will be impossible because magnus and Leiren will be there to tell him that its a bad idea.
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>>4962222
Sorta? He got the Primarch tech out of it in a way.

As you may have noticed it didn't work out well for The Emperor in the long run. When you have an immortal enemy attrition can be a powerful weapon.
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>>4962222
What >>4962325 said.
Of course, this is assuming Big E is a Kurdish gestalt of a bunch of Stone Age shamen and not a DAoT weapon or Old One spawn or any other backstory.
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>>4962222
Nice quads. This Anon has it:
>>4962391
Maybe he is becoming immortal now, but for which price? 10k years of civil war and degradation. It is also not clear whether or not the Emperor/Star Child will be able to persist in this state of "immortality".
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>>4962221
Law for the law God, suits for the suitethrone
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Calling the vote now.

Use your knowledge of the Wuxing, and devise a technique derived by elemental metal to act as a lightning rod, and draw your brothers unmatched power to yourself, catching Be'lakor in the middle of the storm: 4

Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.: 12

Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?:12
-Utilize the carp styles dancing: 2
-Try to pummel him closer to the cage: 1

Brother! The being in the cage is our ally! Free it!: 1

Step back, repair your Guandao, and stand by Magnus:1

Total votes: 19

Alright, so Listening to Kanzeon and pummeling Be'lakor and rushing to the cage to catch your breath wins.

Writing now

>>4961598
>>4961646
Kek
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>>4961284
>Listen to Kanzeon, and start kicking and hammering you fists into the prone devil. Brutish, but maybe it'll be effective?

KANZEON, KNUCKLE DUSTERS STAT.
Bonus points if we can turn the snapped guandao into tonfa. Lets catch Be'lakor's vulnerable side and then retreat.
>Rush to the cage, it radiates with the opposing element of Be'lakor's being. Positive Qi! beneath its light, you'll be able to catch your breath and recover.
Catch our breath. This is hectic.
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>>4962761
oh well. Lets gooo.
>Be'lakor's face when buy one, get two primarchs deal
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Jostling and squirming your arms free from beneath Be'lakor's back, you push yourself up and leap back. Only then does Kanzeon's snarled, enraged advice reaches your consciousness. And you realize, despite the crudeness of the tactic, there is logic behind it. Though she spoke it because of the fury she felt seeing you struggle and beaten, such barbarity, such brutishness can be effective if properly focused and refined. A master is more threatened by a novice than he is another master. A trained Swordsman knows to counter the techniques of other adherents of the blade and its killing arts. They recognize the movement of fellow warriors, be they their peer or lessers, the motions are familiar to them instinctive even! The skilled recognize the talented and vice versa! One who has clashed their blade against a thousand more, cannot be overcome with talent alone, nor sheer strength. Be'lakor possess both in equal measure, raw power and finely wrought skill.

However, nothing is more dangerous than a fool who doesn't know what he's doing! The peerless fighter can be felled by a the clumsily stroke of one who has only began to walk the road of the warrior! To overcome the veteran of eons of combat, you must abandon the manner of a capable fighter, and instead battle him like a lowborn thug whose only training is the raw, natural combat of fists and feet! Forsake martial arts for its rougher counterpart!

And so, the moment you stand, you begin to wildly attack Be'lakor as if you have gone feral. Imitating on the crude brawling of the Vishnu, Lai and New Varro People, you kick and slam your fists and forearms into the still prone demon, drawing on your body's potent strength and raw might alone. It quickly becomes a furious, almost blind assault upon your enemy, the darkest spawn of hell who is shocked into a state of idleness. He cannot, at first, comprehend that you've abandoned all pretenses of civility and proficiency to maul him like a rabid beast. But you don't stop kicking, punching and slamming yourself against him, like an ox or cliff jumper driven mad by some disease or a boar incensed to charge. Like a drunkard, you throw your weight behind every strike, stumbling as you whip your armored feet against the devil's sides and stomach, before bashing your knuckles and elbows against his jaw and neck.

Kanzeon, remains silent as she distantly observes the spectacle. But that does not mean she stands idle. Rather, she lends her assistance by charging your gauntlets and sabatons with electricity, heated and energized to the point its nearly becomes plasma. You can feel her quiet rage within every arc of emerald hued lightning that arcs from your fist or feet. And the flames of your soul still surround you, burning Be'lakor as they ride along the backs of the spears of green light. Gold and emerald intermingling, united against a common foe and the bounds of love.
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>>4962801

The air shudders and quakes, as Magnus pulls more of his essence into the hellish tomb to aid you. Vibrant colors and cutting winds rush from behind you, searing themselves against your flames.

"He's Recovering rapidly! Retreat! Before the entity is able to launch a counterattack!" Kanzeon yells, drawing you from the daze of brutality. Nodding out of habit, you give the wicked soul one more kick between the legs before pressing that foot down and leaping. The sounds of agony the devil emits as you press down on your heel with your full weight, are nearly enough to make you fall ill. But you're able to maintain your balance and stick the landing.

Be'lakor wordlessly screams, roaring more out of pain than rage, his contempt buried beneath the whimpers of a pain only a man can experience. His mighty legs are so deeply bowed they're nearly crossed. Like two old oaks bent in their youth by wind. A single tear drips from the ember's light of his eyes, as his expression struggles to shift from a grimace of mind clearing pain and a mask of fury purer than any a mortal man could experience. For a moment, you ponder how strange it is that a spirit would still possess that organ, but you quickly turn your thoughts to the task of escaping the agonized devil before he recovers. Your heart is pounding in your chest, and your lungs are empty of air. Your throat burns, alongside every muscle in your body. Pangs of pain wash through you with every minute movement.

"I'll pay you back a thousand fold for this insult! Fog's brat" Be'lakor cries from somewhere behind you in the tomb "Your death will be neither quick nor painless! I'll make the prince of pleasures seem merciful! I'll take your manhood for this, Lieren! I swear you'll feel the same pain as you've inflicted upon me!"

"Seems you were successful in your endeavor of pissing that warp entity off" Kanzeon giggles in your mind, her spite for your opponent oozing into her words "Just remember as long as you wear this armor, you'll never fight alone"

"In a way that means it was your own heel which crushed his balls" You sneer, as a stone flies past your head, hissing as it cuts through the air.

"Any lifeform, material or immaterial, which threatens my beloved scholar deserves to have its testicles compressed" Kanzeon says dully, though what she says makes the flatness of her tone even more terrifying than it otherwise would be "Especially one that dares to think it can get away with insulting him and myself!"

A screaming skeleton of some four legged beast is tossed overhead as Be'lakor bellows, sobbing as he struggles to move his lower half despite the torturous pain ringing from his crotch and groin. He stumbles on his cloven hooves, the light in his eyes growing to a piercing light of sheer killing intent.

He swings at your back, as you turn to face him, but with your next step you escape his reach.
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>>4962803

Silver light flows over you, casting you in its comforting warmth. The viper blade catches on the light emanating from the cage, and deflects off of it as if it were solid.

Sighing in relief, you collapse before the crystal cage, huffing and wheezing as you try to catch your breath. Flashing a mocking grin, you look into Be'lakor's eyes and see the impotent rage raging within their dark depths. He turns his back to you, and faces the tear in reality, and the multicolored streams of life flowing from it like smoke and water. Magnus is half way through the portal. And you can tell from the grin Be'lakor now wears, he intends to bait your from your sanctuary beneath the light of caged order by threatening your courageous brother!

The silver white light dances around you merrily, streaming past your legs as it shimmers in a manner reminiscent of fog illuminated by the morning sun. Along the currents of silver and comfort, you can hear pitiful sobbing, like a mother crying to see their child hurt. It hums from within the crystal cage.

You turn to face it, to satiate your curiosity. And see a vague, feminine figure wrapped in veils of cloth and her own flowing locks of hair, as transient and incorporeal as mist itself. She's crying.

What do you do, Lieren?

>Take Be'lakor's bait, and draw his attention away from Magnus

>Utilize Guozhi's often used technique "The Wanderer's Veil" to conceal your presence and attempt to ambus Be'lakor as he threatens Magnus

>Consider the trapped entity, and the light that escapes the cage. Perhaps it could be used somehow?

>Apologize to the trapped hope, and lift the cage from the casket it rests upon, and hurl it at Be'lakor's back!

>Write in

Also, going to give a recommendation/ shout out to a quest that began recently. Wolf in Sheep's Cultivator Quest. I'd suggest you to check it out if you enjoy Xianxia and cultivation stories. I've been enjoying it so far, myself
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>>4962808
>Consider the trapped entity, and the light that escapes the cage. Perhaps it could be used somehow?

We might be able to break the cage.

>Write in

Magnus, shield yourself!

Magnus is a 100 times the psyker that we are, I trust that he can hold off belakor long enough for us to do something, we're not the greatest primarch that ever was, infact I think we're smackdab in the middle since we don't really have a focus between martial/psyker/politics and logistics
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>>4962808
>Consider the trapped entity and the light.
>Warn magnus
>Potentially pick up the cage if we can and carry it towards Be'lakor and magnus

Get fucked. If we can toss it at him, we can carry it to magnus.
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>>4962808
>>Utilize Guozhi's often used technique "The Wanderer's Veil" to conceal your presence and attempt to ambush Be'lakor as he threatens Magnus
I would rather not endanger Magnus, he is only halfway through the portal, and he has no business getting hurt because of our mess.

Didn't realise the option to kick and hammer him would involve wrecking his balls. Another anti-daemon technique to add to our repertoire!
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>>4962826
+1
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>>4962808
>Apologize to the trapped hope, and lift the cage from the casket it rests upon, and hurl it at Be'lakor's back!
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>>4962862
That option is honestly the least lieren thing possible, not because it's a girl, our boy ain't no simp, but because taking a hurt crying prisoner and using them as a battering ram against a demon simply because it's convenient is so against his every moral being that it wouldn't even be lieren anymore if it was done
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>>4962808
>>Consider the trapped entity, and the light that escapes the cage. Perhaps it could be used somehow?

"Be'lakor why you flee ? Are you afraid of a light ? Or perhaps you need some healing cream for your organ ?"

See if the bars of the cage can be taken and used as javelins against Be'leakor. If we can hit him, he will be occupied to take a bar out of his body instead of running towards our brother.
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>>4962826
>>4962808
>Write in
Become the concept of preserverance and drag the damned cage towards our brother and our for! Show the light of hope it can be saved!

>Inb4 we've disturbed the tombs of the lost eldar gods and by bringing back Isha we kick off a 30k God war arc
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>>4962826
Support, let's bring aid to bro. Maybe the trapped entity can help young Magni-magic enter the realm and fight the jailer.
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>>4962808
>Consider the trapped entity, and the light that escapes the cage. Perhaps it could be used somehow?
>Apologize to the trapped hope, and lift the cage from the casket it rests upon, and hurl it at Be'lakor's back!
Time to free another thot.
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>>4962826
support
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>>4962808
>Consider the trapped entity, and the light that escapes the cage. Perhaps it could be used somehow?
Free it
Maybe by chanting line from the journey which does kinda bring order of birth to death. Imagine bringing god of order into existance and Malal the GM changes his name to the new god of order.
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>>4962808
Forgot to also support to support this one too

>>4962826
+1
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>>4962808
God, what's the name of that ice projection technique Gouzi taught us? Fuck.
> Try to channel the pure energies of the light in, through, and out towards Belakor.
KAMEHAHAAAAA-

Though of course if that doesn't work, like anon said >>4962826, and just fucking hoof it my guy.

Also, general question; is Warp teleportation a thing? I know that this 'realm' is technically nothing but spirit stuff and Magnus is using brute force psychic projection to bury his glorious red boot in 'anomalous warp entity' asshole, but traveling/manifesting physically from point A to point B?

It'd be neat if Lieren could actually show Magnus around Shangrala, introduce him to family and friends, etc. It seems like the senior members of the Wanderers have met him before in the psychic sense, but hearing and learning from Gouzi and others could lend further credence to Lieren's arguments.

> inb4 Meixiu calls Magnus her 'funny uncle' because of how he looks
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>>4962826
+1

Magnus *and* Lieren working together? We might be able to Conan that cage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDPGiiaI1MA
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>>4962808
Also, femine figure? Crystal cage? Together with Malal, from the same author and comics? It's definatly Arianka.
Which really does mean we lost the cahnce to get the dreadaxe, or free Kaleb from one of the coffins. What a bummer, he may have been a champion of Malal, but after being betrayed and forgotten, he most likely would try to get revenge.
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>>4962826
yeet and don't forget to dab on chaos
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>>4962808
Backing this >>4962826
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>>4963005
> Who is to say he wasn't one of the souls already freed, and we won't encounter him later?
I do find it funny that once again, fan work is proving itself superior to GW (though that isn't a very high bar).
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>>4962808
>Consider the trapped entity, and the light that escapes the cage. Perhaps it could be used somehow?
>Apologize to the trapped hope, and lift the cage from the casket it rests upon, and hurl it at Be'lakor's back!
Ah yes, Lieren's ultimate technique. Throwing stuff.
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>>4962808
>>Consider the trapped entity, and the light that escapes the cage. Perhaps it could be used somehow?
Oh, hey Arianka
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>>4962808
+1
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>>4962808
>>Utilize Guozhi's often used technique "The Wanderer's Veil" to conceal your presence and attempt to ambus Be'lakor as he threatens Magnus
4majp
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>>4963005
Don't know why you want a dreadaxe in the first place, it's just another daemon in weapon form, no fucking way is lieren touching that thing.

And no, I'm not saying that Because I think malal is going to screw us over and make us chaos worshippers because we got a booboo from a demon blade, I mean that lieren is so opposed to chaos and evil in general that I'm starting to think that our role as primarch will be proto-inquisitor
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>>4963103
Well, because the dreadaxe is another daemon weapon that lives to hurt other daemons, we could have just used it to hurt Be'lakor and got rid of it, tried to study how it's anti-daemon power worked exactly, or just properly sealed it like we did with the nurgle weapon.
As it is, it's just waiting for a new Malal champion to rise so he can give it to him, or even Kaleb himself if he is locked here in retconland somewhere.
Also it's cool.
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>>4963103
>I mean that lieren is so opposed to chaos and evil in general that I'm starting to think that our role as primarch will be proto-inquisitor
That doesn't preclude us from using daemon weapons in the slightest. Radical Inquisitors use daemonhosts and daemon weapons all the time, the main difference between us and them is that we're significantly harder to corrupt. Lieren is clearly fine with using his enemies weapons against them as well, evidenced by our possession of the Six-Fanged Spear and our fight with the DEldar raiders.
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>>4963046
> Secret Grand Master's Technique; Soaring Panther Devastating Assault!
Y E E T !

>>4963139
Fuck looting someone else's junk. Personally I'd rather craft a guandao out of psychically reactive materials and other neat shit so it can be more fully attuned to Lieren's well of spiritual power. Maybe we can create our own unique brand of wraithbone? It's not like Wuxing doesn't support the idea.

>>4963167
I thought the Six-Fanged Spear was a piece of archeotech from the Yan's treasure vaults? I don't think we ever sat down and thoroughly analysed it because we were in the climax of the revolution. I mean I don't doubt it *could* have been a daemon weapon, but Lieren already snubbed his nose at the sorcerers charms and the Keeper of Rust's blade. If it were so blatantly cursed, he'd lock it in a box of iron and lead then bury it under 6 yards of salt.
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>>4963200
>>4963200
The aix-fanged spear was tge weapon that the Yin lord was using, and we looted that junk that belong to him.
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>>4963200
>I thought the Six-Fanged Spear was a piece of archeotech from the Yan's treasure vaults?
It is, I never said otherwise. It was used by a corrupted human bloodline though.
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>>4963200
Wraithbone is Eldar bonesinger exclusive as far I know considering how the Old Ones shaped them to be able to create Wraithbone. Hell the Old Ones could make superior materials out if Warp stuff.
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>>4963214
So were the twins Dao, but we use them.

>>4963210
Already knew that one boss. I remember the fight. It's also how we got Cui Fu's badass warhorse a lovely girlfriend.

>>4963227
Just because wraithbone is made by a specific caste of knife-ears doesn't mean we couldn't study and learn to make a parallel of our own.
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>>4963231
And soon Cui Fu's Horse is going to have a child. In the end the whole debate about decapitating the horse reaulted in something good, that's a rare thing for the autistic shitflinging we anons get into this quest.
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>>4962826
+1
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>>4963231
>So were the twins Dao, but we use them.
You're the one getting antsy about using our enemies weapons against them, not me mate.
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>>4962826
>+1
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>>4963291
Not antsy, just making a point.
> Also, not the anon who wants the Dreadaxe.

I'd forgotten that was even a thing till it was brought up. No idea what this Riyu Jing thing or these retconned gods are either.

>>4963236
The foal was already born bud. It's Kanti, 'Beautiful' I think in the tribal Vishnu language I think the blurb said.

Also I guess Nothing now has ALL the top-shelf horses, among a great many other things. Think it was when we were seeing things from the perspective of that Kang dude who got obliterated by Dandan and then cyber'd up by Kanzeon.
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>>4963532
> Also, not the anon who wants the Dreadaxe
That would be me. But that's anon is right, you made a point, but used two examples that go against it.
But I get what you mean, using an actual daemon weapon is quite the jump from using normal weapons that belonged to corrupt people, that's why I didn't really want to keep it in the arsenal, and more like a temporary advantage, research material, or just sealing it somewhere to fuck Malal over.
Also thanks for the heads up for the horse, I tought the baby was already born, but couldn't remember and I didn't want to check the archives.
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>>4963532
>> Also, not the anon who wants the Dreadaxe.
Well aware.
>No idea what this Riyu Jing thing or these retconned gods are either.
The Riyu Jingu Bang is the personal weapon of Sun Wukong, the Monkey King of Chinese/Indian mythology. The Monkey King also was born of a stone, led a rebellion, and has omnivision.
Arianka was one of the three Gods of Law from the early days of Warhammer Fantasy.
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So after we finish with belabor, what is the new government for a united Shangrala be?

I'm personally heavily against making jinhai the ruler of the entire world, no one man should have all that power.
I think that we should have a world council, where the leaders of the top 4 nations discuss how the world should be run and why, something like an EU but for the world as a whole


I might be jumping the gun here but after belakor any other chaos champion that isn't a greater daemon atleast is gonna be a chump, so we should really put more effort into planning exactly what a united world would look like
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>>4963711
>I think that we should have a world council,
That's what I was thinking, perhaps with ourself as a mediator and tie-breaker if need be.
>where the leaders of the top 4 nations discuss how the world should be run and why,
I don't think the need for world laws will make themselves apparent. The rulers of each nation (there might be more than four now that we know the Eight Celestial Courts aren't just myth) can govern their own countries. Any world-council would be for trade discussions and settling grievences, not the head of some globablist power. Really groundbreaking things like space travel or the establishment of planet-spanning roads might be discussed, but self-rule is the best way to lower the chances of disagreement and therefore, lower the chances of conflict.
something like an EU but for the world as a whole
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>>4963742
Well yeah, that's fine at first, but what I didn't right down is that we should expand our prosperity not only to our own planet, but to any others around us as well, we won't be conquering them but rather building a federation?alliance? Of planets and each one of those is going to need a representative to speak for their planet in the ¿council?

Basically while I don't want any one person to rule a planet, someone is going to have to represent that planet if we ever get to that point
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>>4963748
The odds that we'll make it into the system, let alone other systems with habitable worlds before Dad comes to pick us up, are real low. I think Dorn and Guilliman were the only two to leave their homeworld before they were rediscovered. Ferrus, who had massive technological know-how and a planet where archeotech rained down from the sky, wasn't able to make it to orbit. If we are able to, then perhaps the leaders of each country on Shangrala can elect a representative to newly discovered worlds, but that's no small "if."
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>>4963711
It will take a few more years for unite the entire world. But perhaps even less. The journey rebellion war was very short, and it has free a very large amount of lands.
We are also preparing for a campaign of the world liberation during this peace period, not just in prosperity or the defense of Long-Jia.

It could be done by making it like you said but this also creates a natural division. Expanded even by their different cultures and the planet geography.
There are benefits and negatives in both systems of governance.


>>4963784
In regard to space exploration and colonization, after uniting the planet it can be done. Saying that emps suddenly arrive after our unification is kind of odd. A few years have passed from Lieren arrival on Shangrila, and it still took the emperor sometime for reach the first primarch he ever recovered.
It s not an hardship.

Kazeon has even begin the process for get out of the mountain with the ship. But even without her we know how to make
basic spaceships or ar least a shuttle from the pod lol. Not even counting the study of the dark eldars ships.

It s just a spaceship or more that goes out in the space of our solar system. It s not honestly incredible to do especially with someone like Lieren.

I think Roboute managed to make a small space empire before the imperium arrived to him.
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>>4963819
>Saying that emps suddenly arrive after our unification is kind of odd.
Happened to pretty much every Primarch. Only outliers were the two who made it to space, Angron, the Khan, and Ferrus. Only Ferrus because he wanted conflict to make the tribes on Medusa grow stronger, and the Khan because he unified Chogoris once and found it so boring he let it collapse.
>A few years have passed from Lieren arrival on Shangrila, and it still took the emperor sometime for reach the first primarch he ever recovered.
Fulgrim was on Chemos for fifty years and never made it to orbit.
>But even without her we know how to make
basic spaceships or ar least a shuttle from the pod lol.
Do we? Seems to me that if the gestation capsules had blueprints for spacefaring vessels, Primarchs like Perturabo or Ferrus would have made it off their homeworlds as well.
>Not even counting the study of the dark eldars ships.
All well and good, but we have much more pressing concerns. Namely the two Chaos-corrupted nations with a bone to pick with us. Defeating the Vishnu and the Shuni, de-corrupting their societies, and installing good and virtuous rulers from what goodness remains comes first. Then we'll doubtless have to deal with the Bask, then maybe three more countries, and only then begin to look to the stars. I don't think it's that presumptuous to say that Big E will have found us before then, especially with how much we've been fucking with warpshit.
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>>4963996
>Fulgrim was on Chemos for fifty years and never made it to orbit.
Fulgrims a little bitch
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Consider the trapped entity, and the light that escapes the cage. Perhaps it could be used somehow?:18
-See if the bars of the cage can be taken and used as javelins against Be'leakor: 1
-Try to channel the pure energies of the light in, through, and out towards Belakor.: 1:
-Chant a portion of the journey: 1

Warn Magnus: 13

Attempt to pick up the cage and haul it towards Be'lakjor and Magnus:12
-: Whilst channeling Reality Flickers before the approaching storm (Perseverance): 1

Utilize Guozhi's often used technique "The Wanderer's Veil" to conceal your presence and attempt to ambush Be'lakor as he threatens Magnus:2


Apologize to the trapped hope, and lift the cage from the casket it rests upon, and hurl it at Be'lakor's back!:3

Total votes:21

So Lieren will warn Magnus, Consider the entity trapped in the cage and if its life could be utilized some how, and then attempt to drag the cage to Magnus And Be'lakor.

Writing now
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A wave of anger rushes through your mind, slowly flowing down into your veins to grip you heart as you are tormented by the coarse, raspy sobs of the light of hope. This spirit, she has without a doubt been imprisoned far longer than even the Matron of life, Isha!. Being near enough to hear her mournful cries both deepens and darkens your rage.

"Rousing the Ogre because it senses a maiden in danger, how chivalrous of you" Kanzeon says with a courtly huff "But focus that anger, Your effectiveness in combat will lower by at least an eighteenth percentage if that same anger is allowed to control your mind.

"I know" you answer without speaking as you lift yourself on your scrapped and blood knuckles, easing Kanzeon's worries with your thoughts "but worry not, I have that ogre restricted and well chained within my heart"

"Until it breaks those chains and releases itself, emotions are a fickle thing" Kanzeon warns with a hiss as you rise and cup a hand around your mouth. Drawing in a deep breath, you fill your lungs with the scalding cold grave air of the tomb and rise your chest to prepare to shout with all of your strength and might.

"BROTHER! SHIELD YOURSELF!" You cry, your own worry and dread of one you cherish and love being threatened further rising the sheer volume of your shout. The tomb quakes, shaking past its ancient foundations as your voice carries through the ether and beyond into the wilds of the spiritual realm.

Magnus reacts with a rapidity unmatched by any expect your own, his soul visible eye flares between copper and silver as he perceives Be'lakor beyond his shadow. Veins bulge across his free arm, his crimson hide tightening as the tightly corded muscles beneath harden like wrought steel. Curiosity flickers across what you can see of his perception, before it is replaced with shocked terror that quickly settles into a fiery rage that could burn and scald spirit as easily as any fire could flesh! His closely cut, groomed nails seem to sharpen into talons as his appearance changes. For a moment, he appears to be a giant even to yourself, before your eyes force his true visage to resist against the transient illusion his power overlays before the "reality" of the ghost's world.

The lightning draws back into his palm, and hardens into a glass like substances that is cast in the radiance of a thousand stars! It expands outwards, interlocking and melding together into panes of a stained glass window, that quickly curves and bends itself into a convex shield.

"...I cannot calculate the level of psionic power your brother wields" Kanzeon says, sounding cowed and unsettled, which is rather upsetting and unsettling in of itself. Just the sight of Magnus sheer power and excellence at wielding the forces of the Emperyan is enough to disturb her! She who has faced down the vileness of devils and wicked spirits, and endured the tortures of isolation for untold centuries. Truly, your brother is a formidable force by himself.
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>>4964217

In awe, you watch as Be'lakor brings his blade against the glass. It's edge rebounds away, as the glass cracks but does not shatter. Then, it appears as thought time has stopped. Clearly, you can perceive the motion within the halted passing of time. It is a sensation most queer and bizarre! You can feel your thoughts slow to a ponderous pace, yet you can percieve all that occurs within that time as if you were aware of it in a more direct sense.

The Stained shield shudders, and the frozen air ripples with some kind of energy. And then time resumes, and Be'lakor is lifted from his feet by a wave of Kinect energy, and carried through the air as if a giant of the illusionary size Magnus' presented had lifted him from the ground and hurled him like a stone.

Shaking your head, you blink and adjust to the flow of time.

"I'LL BE ABLE TO STAND BY YOUR SIDE MOMENTARILY, LIEREN! ALLOW ME TO DISTRACT THIS...THING!" Magnus calls back, as he tries to claw and pull himself into the realm you yourself were stolen to "CARRY OUT WHATEVER PLAN YOU HAVE SCHEMED WHILST I INCARNARE MY ESSENCE INTO THIS PARADOXICAL REALM"

You nod, and turn to face the cage as you hear the screeching of Be'lakor's hooved feet digging into the wrecked tiled floor of the tomb, pulling his body to a halt without so much as losing his balance.

"FINE! Two corpses will lay at my feet before the day is done!" Be'lakor snarls "it makes no difference to me, if I slay one or two godlings!"

Focusing your attention, your pierce your sight into the cage as Kanzeon attempts to warn and remind you of the affects of gazing upon such potent energies even indirectly. Immediatly, your eyes begin to feel as if you stared into a raging blizzard, the sensation of frost forming into ice upon their surface and within the Aqueous Humors shakes you to your core as a new form of agony ripples through your flesh and buries itself into your mind.

The wraithlike figure shifts, as you understand its innate nature, becoming at first a porcelain doll of woman, dressed in strange armor and rising crown of ice, and then a demure maiden dressed in a thin dress woven of snow flakes and morning's frost, and then a shield made of blocks of ice so ancient it has blackened cast with figures formed of snow. But each of these visions, while both true and false are in some way wounded. The doll warrior queen's porcelain is cracked, and beneath her mask a terrified visage half seen is coated in tears and bruises, the maiden of ice cowers and shields herself with bloodied arms, eyes empty except for blind terror, and the wall...the wall has been broken down and conquered, the soldiers upon it impaled upon pikes and spears. And finally, your mind settles on an image that it will accept as the entity's "real" form.

She could pass for Luli's sister or mother, and carries as many wounds as the faithful adherent had when you first came across her.
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>>4964218

Teardrops of ice drip down her chin, one of her arms hangs limply to her side, while the other's hand is a mass of twisted and broken fingers. Deep gouges line her thighs and legs, as if massive claws were dragged across her pale flesh. Her beautiful face is bloated, as if she had endured a near fatal beating. Her eyes weep endlessly, and she shivers, balled up with her legs held closely to her chest. Her flowing silver white hair hides the true horror of her injuries, but it has become frayed at the end and unkempt. What you perceive, is a frightened animal, beaten into submission and fear, too deeply cowed to even attempt to test the its confines. And what you see, is a protector defeated and consumed by the shame and grief of their failure, their sorrows dominating their heart and mind like a cancer.

What light she gives off, as comforting and rejuvenating as it is, is all the meekened spirit can do to attempt to keep you and others from befalling the same fate as herself. The wounds in her heart, like Kanzeon's own once did, bleeds and fills the air with energy. That of healing, but it is fouled by the terror that afflicts her. It is weak, barely able to guard you against Be'lakor's attack. The Qi within it could be channeled or utilized, but you have little interest or want to steal what little power and influence this poor girl is able to summon from her broken self.

However, perhaps her light would aid magnus or at least scare away Be'lakor? Perhaps hope could be returned to her heart if she realizes her cage is not absolute?

"Lieren don't!" Kanzeon cries out as you reach for the crystal bars, and grasp it.
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The Lord of Butchers, the collector of skulls, the master of war and murder smiled upon his throne, as a chiming tune he distantly recalled reached his ears. As his legions halted their endless battle for his favor and amusement to listen to the song and wander why it so deepened their ever boiling rage, Khorne shifted upon his throne. Upon Shangrala, his chosen was roused from their slumber as the lord of skulls shifted his head, and rested his cheek upon a blood soaked gauntleted hand.

With the other, he opened his palm, and motioned it towards the yet hidden realm of his returned brother. Beneath his armor, a fanged grin ran across the merciless god's gore soaked lips.

So, brother, that is were you have taken our pawn! How bold of a first move to make!

And instantly, all the remaining three players turned their attention from the board and the reverie of their forgotten captive's cry, and gazed into the shadows were the fifth hid, and where the unmovable piece attempt to steal away their prize! In turn, they all cried out in surprise!

Impossible! We were four before!
Hrrrn, unexpected. Seems you are not in fact, all knowing, architect
YOU GOLDEN EYED BASTARD!? WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING!?
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>>4964219

Immediately, you fall to one knee as the weight of five sets of eyes possessed by beings of boundless age and malevolence turn their attention toward you

What? Did you believe the failed god was your tribulation?! He was just a TEST to see if you were worthy of beginning it at all!

"But you hate..." You struggle to say, struggle to even breath "The others"

We all do, HAR!

Sie Nie's voice is gentle, yet fierce. Venomous, yet sweet with kindness and joy, but her scorn overcomes it all and the Maiden of wanton pleasure's tone becomes one of masculine rage and womanly scorn.

You impudent swine! How dare you! How dare you! all the offers and chances of glory, and you strive to free that piece of garbage!?

"Brother? What's wrong!" Magnus calls out, not hearing the voice of any of the self titled gods, you cough and taste blood, wheeze and swallow burning heat.

Jian Qi's tone is one of curiosity and the anger of the denied, a slippery voice not unlike Tax collector Ling's or A serpents hiss. But, beneath his interested demeanor, you can taste his spite.

it is most unusual that anything was able to step outside of its destiny, besides nothing, but I will not tolerate you interfering with two of my most prized pawns

A voice that could only belong to Na Gou, already familiar to your ears, oozes into your mind like puss from an infected wound, or stench from a decaying corpse.

Now will you accept my fatherly affection, and its gifts? When you are faced with annihilation?

Kong Nue speaks last, and most briefly. His voice...his voice is the voice of every man you've killed, lead by Cui Fu. Tears of blood fall from your eyes as his presence falls upon your shoulders

Endure this, or fall dead

"Something has afflicted you!" Magnus realizes "There's...something besides the apperant enemy here"

"Ru-" you try to speak, before blinding pain blanks out your mind. It is as if a thousand thin knives have peel back your skin, exposing it to the elements, exposing it to drops of venom, liquor and dust of salt! As if a current of electricity had replaced your blood, and turned your flesh into malformed clay. As if you began to rot and decay as you still lived. As if your skin boiled and burned, marked by a thousand and one axe swings. As if arrows pierced you from all directions, as if all warmth and life had been drawn out of you.

Will you disappoint me, and fall to my hated siblings, or will you surpass my expectations and earn your GIFT!
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>>4964222

How do you face this tribulation, Lieren?

> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!

>Start cursing and denouncing them all, turning your unshakeable convictions against their insipid gospels, insulting each of the four and Chun Qiang as well as they attempt to break your spirit

>release the cage, and escape the tribulation before it is too late to!

>"BROTHER! SEE THE CRUELTIES OF THAT WHICH WOULD NAME ITSELF A GOOOAAAAAAAAAGHD!"

>Write in
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>>4964226
>Start cursing and denouncing them all, turning your unshakeable convictions against their insipid gospels, insulting each of the four and Chun Qiang as well as they attempt to break your spirit
>Order your brother to not falterwith some chinese advice.
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>>4964226
>> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
Power through, baby.
Anyone have any ideas as to what else we'll find here? We've encountered Malal, a Fimir, and Arianka, missed a chance to find the Dreadaxe and Kaleb Daark, and Solkan and Alluminas are presumably somewhere close by. Are there any other notable retcons? Maybe a Hrud in their original skavenesque form?
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>>4964226
>Start cursing and denouncing them all, turning your unshakeable convictions against their insipid gospels, insulting each of the four and Chun Qiang as well as they attempt to break your spirit
>endure it and tell them all that you will be their doom!
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>>4964237
>tell them all that you will be their doom!
Do you not remember what happened the last time we made a hubristic, OOC boast before our success was assured? Because I do.
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>>4964226
> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
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>>4964239
This isn't a fucking declaration of assured victory you autist this is a promise for the future, one entirely in character because no one hates chaos more than us
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>>4964226
> Start cursing and denouncing them all, turning your unshakeable convictions against their insipid gospels, insulting each of the four and Chun Qiang as well as they attempt to break your spirit
> Release all of your spiritual might, every drop of the sea within your self, like the rushing river breaking free of a dam.
> Reach out to the beaten maiden of ice. "You are not alone."
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>>4964226
>> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
Dear god, and here I though Be'lakor was bad enough.
I think we already kicked the wasp's nest, there is no need to spit into its remains too.
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>>4964251
>This isn't a fucking declaration of assured victory you autist
>be me
>in a fight
>tell people I’m fighting that I’m going to be their doom
This is a declaration of victory because it assumes we’ll be able to follow through on that threat. Retard.
>one entirely in character because no one hates chaos more than us
>the most humble, temperate man in the setting would lose himself to his hatred and make threats he can’t back up
Fascinating that you think so.
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>>4964226
Actually, changing my vote >>4964259
> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
> Try to heal the gentle maiden's wounds with your spiritual energies.
Literally restore hope. We've never actually tried channeling Lieren's psychic power that way, but maybe acting selflessly is the exact solution needed here.
Empowering others who in turn empower him.
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>>4964226
> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!

We fought you fuckers off once and we'll damn well do it again.
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>>4964290
Also willing to support this one for obvious reasons.
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>>4964244
>>4964290
Fuck it, changing to this. Can't make things worse I suppose.
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>>4964226
>Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
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>>4964290
support
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>>4964290
+1
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>>4964226
>> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
Hold out. Let Magnus focus on his, focus on ours. Think of the nature of our foes and use them to fight one another. Let change face stagnancy and pleasure with anger.
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>>4964226
> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
>Start cursing and denouncing them all, turning your unshakeable convictions against their insipid gospels, insulting each of the four and Chun Qiang as well as they attempt to break your spirit
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>>4964226
>Start cursing and denouncing them all, turning your unshakeable convictions against their insipid gospels, insulting each of the four and Chun Qiang as well as they attempt to break your spirit
>release the cage, and escape the tribulation before it is too late to!
Fuck you Chaos, Lieren is a Lawchad.
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>>4964376
Actually, changing my vote to support this anon
>>4964290
But also add two other anon's write in's
>Order your brother to not falterwith some chinese advice.
> Reach out to the beaten maiden of ice. "You are not alone."
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>>4964226
>Write in
Sing to the wounded maiden, and gift her a small flame of hope.
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>>4964226
>>4964290
+1
> Try to heal the gentle maiden's wounds with your spiritual energies.
>>4964376
>>4964387
+1
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>>4964290
+1; but with the addition of >>4964259's 'You Are not alone'
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>>4964290
+1
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>>4964226
Fuck you chaos.
Support >>4964290


Let no god or torment stop us from aiding the beaten.
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>>4964226
> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
> Try to heal the gentle maiden's wounds with your spiritual energies.
> Reach out to the beaten maiden of ice. "You are not alone."
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Huh, neat. Didn't think I'd get so much support.

Something I was thinking about besides healing was that Lieren's fiery defiant energy compliments the maiden's own cool, pure water/ice energy. I think.

Not entirely sure I have this Wuxing stuff down.
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>>4964474
I don't think that Ariabka is warer or ice, her prison is made of the crystal, not her,so it would make sense she is something that is defeated by whatever element glass would be.
Although her coffin was under Praag, the oldest city of Kislev, so maybe she has something to do with ice powers.
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>>4964474
Lieren has a soft spot for children, abused maidens and prisoners.

Supporting the option is overwhelmingly in character, though I'm sad that magnus will never see the gods as they do this.
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>>4964484
Glass is Earth.
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>>4964500
He's gonna learn bud. One of the whole reasons it was so difficult for Magnus to see the truth was because Tzeentch was actively manipulating events.

I'd bet a solid $20 that witnessing the Flesh-Change in his sons is going to incur some right and proper VENGEANCE on his part.
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>>4964507
So her being related to water works, since there is an overcoming interaction between them.
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>>4964510
I. . I want to say that he would know this. They would look at the utter agony we are inflicted and suffering from and believe us when we tell him later that it was the false gods. I want to say he'd believe us.

But I just can't see his doubt letting him hold it. I can all to easily see him say "You're blaming these little creatures for all your Ills lieren. When the pain passes you will be of clearer mind"
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>>4964515
If Magnus saw a god, fpight against a champion, and even them still refuses to see it when a deal goes wrong, than it was impossible to fix that mistake.
Malal wouldn't go that far on the other direction of how easy would be to convince him, right? The GW forcing their shitty plot powered villains that fuck up but still work way?
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>>4964226
> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
>Channel and focus on the Journey and its teachings to anchor and shield you. Use "reality flickers before the storm" to further make use of the journey if possible.
People facing heavenly tribulation in Xianxia often sit it out and just tank the whole thing in silence so narratively I assume that is the best way to handle this, secondly the journey is strongly anti chaos since its the metaphorical distilled core of Lierens character so since we are fighting the four all at once now is the time to bring it out as much as possible.
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>>4964290
>Being subjected to a psychic dog-pile of everything wrong in the universe and ignoring it to try and restore hope
This shit is so over the top I love it
Also Lieren is 100% walking out of this fucked up in some way. Primarch or not, all 4 Chaos Gods at once is about as bad as it can possibly get,
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>>4964600
>Also Lieren is 100% walking out of this fucked up in some way.
Our boy has been doing too good to not warrant the Universe trying to balance things out. It's expected.
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>>4964600
Give because you can give, not because you expect to be praised for it.
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>>4964602
>>4964600
> Lieren emerges from his Sojourn into the Abyss as a wizened older master complete with long beard, haunted and aged by his experiences but wiser and more powerful for them
> Still has a fucking fantastic body, and now exudes peak Hot Dad energy at all times
> Fangirl Club quadruples overnight, now led by an anonymous ringleader with suspiciously long ears
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>>4964650
Where is our Eldar fangirl anyway?

She should have gotten here by now
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>>4964654
She's probably into voyeurism, interfering would ruin the whole thing.
Got to remember that the Eldar spawned Slanesh.
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>>4964654
Oh shit, forgot she jumped in after us. Maybe something's holding her up? There are two Eldar gods, Hoec and Gea, who might be here. Hoec's only mention was in the Eldar's 4th Edition codex and Gea has been mentioned twice. Firstly in a 1st Edition book from the early 90s and most recently in a novella from 2013.
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>>4964669

Well if things work out here, us and Magnus will probably be the ones who will liase with the Eldar when they come knocking. After seeing us fight the forces of chaos.
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>>4964677
Just don't let Vulkan hear about it.
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>>4964699
Ha can plan the interspecies bonding cookout. It'd definitely help him destress.
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>>4964724
We should definatly try to write some guide on how to distinguish different eldar for him.
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>>4964226
Supporting this one >>4964290
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>>4964473
+1
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>>4964226
>>Start cursing and denouncing them all, turning your unshakeable convictions against their insipid gospels, insulting each of the four and Chun Qiang as well as they attempt to break your spirit
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>>4964226
Supporting the healing, touching, uh fuck off chaos gods, uuuhhhh singing. Fucking you know I'm just fucking gonna support those things. Yeah. Those. Fuck. It's late.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rlKGlClD3I
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>>4964932
>Be Lieren
>Tell Magnus about the dangers of going too deep in the Warp
>Be Lieren that also goes beyond reality in order to restore Hope from her current state of non-existence while battling the four gods of chaos
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>>4964226
> Try to heal the gentle maiden's wounds with your spiritual energies.
>Start cursing and denouncing them all, turning your unshakeable convictions against their insipid gospels, insulting each of the four and Chun Qiang as well as they attempt to break your spirit
Dont fall for them by doing what they want. Especially enduring the pain sounds like the Na Gou option.
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>>4964290
Supporting
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>>4964947
Surrendering to to pain is the Nurgle option.
Malal has said he won't fuck us over out of nowhere.
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>>4964957
^
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>>4964947
>Especially enduring the pain sounds like the Na Gou option.
If Mortarion just grit his teeth and endured Nugle's Rot for eternity, he wouldn't have become a daemon prince. But he buckled and now he perpetually smells like a corpse dunked in the liquid that pools at the bottom of Carl Jr.'s dumpsters.
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I have not followed this quest in quite a while.... WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?
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>>4965332
Lets just say that experimenting with the warp os bad
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>>4965332
As it would turn out, Lieren has the power to cut the metaphysical shit, thus bringing Malal back into existence.
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>>4965332
Our special eyes were the gift of Malal.
Turns out that when we decided to study why a mysterious fifth god that fucked over the other four wasn't documented, the truth vision was the missing ingredient to bring Malal back to reality.
We just unretconned GW's bad decisions.
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Did Malal just encouraged us to free hope? Was really all his master plan to fuck Chaos?
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>>4965364
Who the fuck knows with that guy, he hates everyone else almost as much as he hates himself, so yeah, it's entirely possible that he's making us strong enough to kill him because that's his nature.
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>>4965364
Malal hates Chaos, himself included.

So long as everyone dies before he does he's more than happy to count that as a win.
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>>4965338
It's isn't experimenting with the warp is bad, it's that you thought it was a good idea to create "true chaos".
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>>4964650
but will he have the dad bod?
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>walk away for a couple threads
>fightan one of khornes champions, which makes sense considering lieren is trying his ass off to apparently purge chaos off his planet
>apparently lieren is chilling with magnus, which is legit cool
>apparently somehow unretconned malal
>is about to completely shit up the warp
NGL i legit thought the caged chick was the eldar god that nurgle has hold of.
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>>4965487
>NGL i legit thought the caged chick was the eldar god that nurgle has hold of.
Oh, you haven't heard? All the cool gods have other, weaker gods imprisioned in their domain now.
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>>4964290
this
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>>4965487
>>4965491
i think she is Lileath the Maiden
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>>4965573
She's Arianka, one of the Gods of Law from the early days of Warhammer Fantasy. She was imprisioned in a crystal coffin by one of the Chaos Gods and Kaleb Daark, Champion of Malal, was sent to kill her. But this was in a 4-part comic series that only made it to 3 due to legal issues with Malal's creator. Lileath is in Slaanesh's stomach, either dead or trapped like the first generation of Olympians, I prefer to believe the latter.
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>>4964368
>>4964290
adding this as well
(> Try to heal the gentle maiden's wounds with your spiritual energies.)
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>>4964226
> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
> Try to heal the gentle maiden's wounds with your spiritual energies.

I like this idea. To quote from Klaus "A true selfless act always sparks another", let the spark bring about the God of Order.
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>>4965578
I have been reading what little there is on her and i am not exactly impressed, is she worth all this effort?.
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>>4965895
Probably. We don t exactly find this kind
of spirits everywhere. At least is an occasion.


>>4964226
> Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!
> Try to heal the gentle maiden's wounds with your spiritual energies.
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>>4965895
For lierens perspective, of course.
From a player perspective, It annoys the gods the most, so of course.
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I probably don't mean this but I'd like there to be real consequences to our actions. Maybe Leiren dies and we're now controling Magnus who's serving the Order Goddess.

Or maybe the we're now the sect and have to carry on Leiren's legacy.
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>>4966037
This has to be bait.
I refuse to believe it isn't.
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>>4966049
There are dumbasses in any quest, just ignore it and be on the lookout for samefagging
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If we find a forgeworld I hope to change their dogma of human life having no value and aversion to invention, innovation, and outright stealing xeno designs is changed

Or better yet we create our own organization of scientists and engineers and then tell the mechanicum to suck it long and hard
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>>4966114
Emperor would veto that hard, and we know how the emperor is about his enforcements.

And it's not that human life has no value, it's that they are cogs in a machine, their vlaue is intrinsically tied to their capacity to preform a function.
Lastly, I really really need to clear up this misconception but it isn't an aversion to invention and innovation except in the most extreme of cases. The rule is that only a Magos or higher leveled individual, a proven and skilled individual, is permitted to tinker with designs are try and innovate. Because rampant innovation doomed man before, so only the trusted can be allowed to do it.
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>>4966127
Emperor hates the mechanicum, I'm sure he'd turn a blind eye and let them seeth

Also that top dogs innovating is bullshit, only cawl is innovating and every other tech priest hates him for it
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>>4966133
Emperor hates them, but has use of them. He's not going to kill them off, because if he could without his crusade failing, he would.

And top dogs innovating is not bullshit, Cawl being one of said top dogs. But most media doesn't give a shit about their innovation and elects not to show it. 30K however is rife with such innovations whenever you look at mars or the creation of new marks of armour.
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>>4966137
Consider further, Cawl makes use of AI and is distinctly of a radical tint.

Priests don't like eachother at the best of times, his radicalism is particularly not attractive.
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>>4966114
The Mechanicum is full of diffetent sects, promoting one above the otger could work, but it would get rivals wanting to fuck us over.
And primarch worlds have quite a lot of autonony, even the ones that conquered later, as show by the leniency on Ultramar and Lorgar's preaching. As long as we keep up our crusading quota we could expand prosperity.
Now removing the Mechanicum all together from the Imperium is basically impossible before already having "won" 40k.
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>>4966155
I'd rather we just make the Mechanicum as a faction entirely obsolete down the line by creating our own enclaves of Loyalist Imperial Tech-Scholars. I'd also prefer if they looked like people and not pimped out toasters, but that's just me.
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>>4966159
That is all well and good but the mechanicum have a state enforced monopoly on tech and will come down ruthlessly on anyone caught breaching it.
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>>4966167
We could leverage our homeworld's relative autonomy. I'm pretty sure the Mechanicum can't do shit about something happening in a Primarch's territory.
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>>4966176
But the problem is expanding beyond it, and the Mechanicum as a whole deciding to fuck us over at every opportunity.
As opposed to getting a sect hooke don the journey, where there would be rivals, allies and a lot of neutrals.
Also they would conatatntly push the Emperor to censor us somehow, which he would eventually do due to the imporatnace of Mars's support to the crusade.
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>>4965895
Assuming we don't die or have to get dreadnoughted? Probably.
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>>4966133
>Emperor hates the mechanicum, I'm sure he'd turn a blind eye and let them seeth
What Big E would or wouldn't tolerate aside, the Mechanicum is a faction that YOU DO NOT WANT TO ANGER. Because if you do, they'll pull all the Mechanicum ships from your fleet, techpriests from your enginariums, supply lines away from your crusade route, and stop accepting techmarine applicants from your legion. Which means you have to find another way to source all your materiel. And while Kanzeon (and maybe her sisters) will be able to produce some things, they won't be able to supply an entire Exploratory Fleet.
>only cawl is innovating and every other tech priest hates him for it
Thats nu-40k. This is more old-school 30k. Books like Mechanicum paint a pretty interesting picture of pre-war life on Mars. People like Koriel Zeth and Ipluvien Maximal were openly innovating.
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>>4966220
Well then in that case getting a forgeworld to accept the Journey (not force it, but highly encourage it) would be our best bet, we need innovation to spread prosperity
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>>4966223
We don't even have to convert them to our philosophy, Horus won the allegiance of half of Mechanicum with a single STC right before the Heresy. We could buy a forge world with any one of the things we have in our satchel.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

Start cursing and denouncing them all, turning your unshakeable convictions against their insipid gospels, insulting each of the four and Chun Qiang as well as they attempt to break your spirit:8

Order your brother to not falter with some Long Jiaian advice: 3

Endure it, and sit silent, riding through the torments of the four other lords of hell, commanding your brother to ignore your plight, and fight on!: 26
-tell them you'll be their doom:1

Release all of your spiritual might, every drop of the sea within your self, like the rushing river breaking free of a dam.: 0

Reach out to the beaten maiden of ice. "You are not alone.: 6

Try to heal the gentle maiden's wounds with your spiritual energies.: 22

release the cage, and escape the tribulation before it is too late to!: 1

Sing to the wounded maiden, and gift her a small flame of hope.: 2

Channel and focus on the Journey and its teachings to anchor and shield you. Use "reality flickers before the storm" to further make use of the journey if possible.: 1

Total votes: 32

Alright, so silently enduring the torment and telling Magnus to ignore your plight AS you attempt to heal the gentle maiden's energy with your own spiritual essence wins.

Writing now.

Really excited to write actually, cause of that write in
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>>4966226
> We could buy a forge world with any one of the things we have in our satchel.

Not quite? The greatest technological discoveries we've made, such as the terraforming 'water stone' devices, have been because of Kanzeon. Lieren is incredibly intelligent, but the direction of the story hasn't led him to be that much of a grand inventor or reclaimer of lost treasures.

You could make the same argument in Old Man's quest, but the difference would be that K either discovered them himself or looted them from unworthy foes (like the Ganth). The problem that both characters share is that the mere existence of some of their allies (Kanzeon and the Tiger children, 'Pygmalius' and the Jokaero) will conflict with hard-line Human and tech purists.

It would honestly be better to take time and l feel out the cult, looking for individuals who could be trusted to neither abuse the knowledge given nor betray the trust of the Primarch.
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>>4966313
> Really excited to write actually, cause of that write in.
That's a good feels right there.
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>>4966313
That's gotta piss off the chaos gods like nothing else, they get literally nothing of value while he directly does things to annoy.
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>>4966313
>Really excited to write actually, cause of that write in
I'm at half mast already.
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>>4966314
>Not quite? The greatest technological discoveries we've made, such as the terraforming 'water stone' devices, have been because of Kanzeon.
The Mechanicum doesn't care from whence the tech flows, only that it does. The memory-stealer, the water stones, the Six-Fanged Spear, any one of those is comperable to the fragments Horus gifted to the Fabricator General.
>but the direction of the story hasn't led him to be that much of a grand inventor or reclaimer of lost treasures.
We're absolutely a grand inventor. We've invented firearms, better methods of farming, electricity, more efficient transportation, better body armor, modern medicine, advanced forging techniques, all that shit. Hell, our job is Minister of Innovation. Our recovery of Lost Artifacts is less pronounced, as everything other than Kanzeon we've taken in battle, but since she has a vested interest in recovering archeotech, we do too.
>The problem that both characters share is that the mere existence of some of their allies (Kanzeon and the Tiger children, 'Pygmalius' and the Jokaero) will conflict with hard-line Human and tech purists.
The Tiger People are a nonissue. They aren't inherently chaotic and they have the direct patronage of a Primarch. Big E let beastmen continue to exist, so nobody is gonna make a stink about it. Nobody that we can't cowl with a look, that is. Kanzeon, I'll grant you, is an issue. We've openly cooperated with Abominable Intelligence, indulged it in its wishes, helped it craft an organic body, and declared our love for it. All undeniable tech-heresy. Which is why any sort of philosophy pamphlet we mail to Sacred Mars is getting atomized on the spot. Religious fanatics aren't likely to accept alternate viewpoints from apostates, but they will accept bribes.
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>>4966325
>AdMech declares holy jihad on our homeworld during the Horus Heresy
>Kanzeon hacks their ships and drives their ships into the center of our homeworld's sun
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>>4966350
>"Inshallah these mewling children will be taught the true meaning of 'technological might,' my beloved"
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>>4966350
Depending on the ship class she wouldn't even need to hack them.

Ark Mechanicus ships still have their STC network A.I. aboard. They just dont tell the meat bags because they feel that the toaster fuckers dont need to know, they dont feel like dealing with the Golden Idiot, they think it's funny, or any combination of the three.
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>>4966223
Our best bet is to work on our yard and expanding it with imperial concessions or conquests. Guilliman made an incredibly large and prosperous region (as well wealthy and cultured), with a lot of good tech made by his peoples and no signs of most of the bad things that afflicts other territories of the imperium. More importantly it was under HIS control and the one of HIS men.

We can do the same, or talk with the emperor for create a new imperial office for us to use and work on all the imperium. This will need a serious political power, but honestly Lieren has all the good cards for start a strong political presence across the entire galaxy.

Thinking just about the Mechanicus and their worth though, will make us look weak, especially if we decide to put their worth above ours. The Mechanicus isn t worth enough to look weak, and it will never be.
If it was such a big deal then everyone and their moms would lick them every second of existance. Except they don t, they still treat them with silk gloves if the mechanicus doesn t attempt something
retarded, but the emperor and his sons didn t tell them or gift them all they had. Same for other people. That much is clear, and what is more clear is that they aren t the only big players around.

There are numerous factions in the imperium. Lieren objective is prosperity for all. Not so surprisingly that ideal, is probably well appreaciated among the stars. Combine with the Journey that will spread like wild fire even if Lieren decide to stop the book production or not help it spreading (he has no reason to stop it or not help it spreading) or the emperor does (difficult to say if he would do so, because is not that bad for a philosopy at the end of it, also he let that holy book run for quite a while), and with the likely fact that he will become a very popular Primarch .... is political gravitas and social influence will become very very huge. More than most of his brothers.

Meaning a lot of poweful factions will want to become friends with him and entire peoples will love him, the Mechanicus isn t dumb either so they will court him not even for the high tech he has, but just for the political power he will have. Meaning we can get the knife by the handle if we want, and if we play our cards right.

Hell, the imperial propaganda will not have to write a single article in their news about him because any Lieren military reports will be heroic, well planned and thinking about how he can help each and every human peoples he comes across. Plus it s humble origins and the fact he is very friendly. That s just perfect to work with.
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In regard to Kazeon, honestly not Lieren or her are dumb. When they read over the general informations of the imperium, they will had already thought of multiple
plans. They are good enough together to surpass any kind of interference made by imperial factions, i find unlikely anyone can understand what she is beside emps, malcador and the other primarchs. Beside she is actually of great worth, and could help the imperium a lot. There is also the chance that her model, might be recent and advance enough to be immune to whatever happened to the Men of Iron.
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>>4966429
I hope so, I'd hate to have to put our babymama down because she got touched by the warpcode
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>>4966434
Warpcode is stuck in a vault.
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>>4966434
Well it s very strange to send just a group of colony ships to a distant uncolonized system. But beside not fully knowing the details of the colonization, that and that we should read all the memory spheres with the Lotus sceptre when we have time, she had fought a lot against chaos on her own. And she has very strong morals and a deep love for mankind.
Anyway this is another topic for another time, we need to think which of the two tyrants we should move first against.

I believe we should attack Kamal Kanan first. The Shuni are already united and we still don t have enough wanderers of the fog in confront to his sorcerers, and he has a lot of spirits under him too.

Nitya Shina is not to ubderstimate either, but he still needs to finish off the remaining Vishnu kingdoms. He has high tech, evil spirits and a professional army.
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>>4966313
This is gonna be one of those 30,000 character updates isn't it?
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>>4966498
Maybe, but I've been kept away from my keyboard by irl stuff, so I've only been able to start writing now
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regardless of what will happen in the future I for one am glad we unretconia Malal. the train is off the rails.
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What if, during Lieren's post-heresy MIA time, he is actually seeking and liberating anti-chaos warp gods?
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>>4966503
At this point the train has torn up the rails and is looking at Canon's unlubed anus.
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>>4966524
I could see the Harlequins bringing Lieren to the Black Library and allowing him to study the ancient knowledge of the Old Ones and the Aeldari Empire when it was truly worthy.

Aside from that, it's also entirely possible that Lieren might descend into a deep meditation wherein he fights the Gods for thousands of years; time doesn't flow in the Warp like it does in the physical realm, and forcing the Dark Powers to devote a portion of their attention on him gives humanity a reprieve in which they can prepare, uncover ancient things the thought-parasites wanted buried, etc.
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>>4966533
>>4966528
>>4966524
>>4966503
>>4966499
If they feed off of thoughts, then did Jesus and God exist for a time?
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>>4966537
Jesus is a historical fact, whether or not he was the son of God, born of a Virgin is the part that's up for debate. The Abrahamic God probably exists in the warp, just not nearly as powerful as any of the other God. Depending on the book, "Catherics" still exist in the setting, just on backwater worlds.
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>>4966537
It's kind of hand waved away in canon due to GW not wanting to fuck the hornet's nest. There was also a few jokes (in the fandom anyway) that Big E was Jesus.

But if we want to be technical then yes they probably did and then they got either eaten by one of the 4 or they exist in some small corner of the warp due to only a few people even worshiping anymore thanks to Big E Money's cult of reason 2 "this time surely it wont backfire and turn into an extremist cult" bugaloo.
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>>4966540
Olanius Pious was one, atleast the shitty perpetual one.
>>4966542
The emperor should wear a fedora instead of a wreath, he is the champion of euphoria and of true aethism has never been tried before.
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>>4966588
>Olanius Pious was one, atleast the shitty perpetual one.
Perpetual-Ollanius is something I didn't mind, at least character-wise. If he was just some older-than-Big E perpetual that'd be fine, even interesting given all his hinted-at backstory. But to replace the regular joe Ollanius that put himself between Horus and the Emperor? Still a downgrade, but much better than the marine, terminator, and custodian who did it in past editions.
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>>4966592
I still think Olanius being a regular ass guardsmen is the ideal. Really sells what the entire moment was supposed to be about.
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>>4966602
It's ideal, yeah. That's what I said. But BL is trying to do some "oooh look how stories become merged and conflated as time goes on" shit with Ollanius Persson the Perpetual and Ollanius Piers the Guardsman. It isn't the most egregiously unforgivable shit in Saturnine, but it's not great either. But as I said, I like the character of Persson and I don't think BL is going to accept criticism now, as they never have before.
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>>4966622
Considering it's now "illegal" to create GW fan content that "disparages the image of Games Workshop" that's an understatement.
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>>4966622
I'd much rather they just just retcon Perpetual Ollanius entirely and move forward with the Guardsman story being the only one.
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>>4966639
Games Workshop has made it apparent that what the fans would rather happen is utterly meaningless to them.
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>>4966641
Alright, forget what I want, it's an objectively superior story beat and all this perpetual nonsense is a fucking money-sink.
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>>4966644
Careful, now. Haven't you heard? Fan content that disparages the image of Games Workshop is illegal. We don't want to give Malal any ideas.
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>>4966650
Games Workshop can kiss my ass and suck my dick from the back while they're down there. Their legal department doubly so.
Resin 3D printers are only getting better and cheaper as time goes on, the resolution on those fuckers puts GW sculpts and castings to shame.
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Through the static of agony that has replaced all thought and feeling, you can discern through the orchestra of torment unimagined and unmatched pain Magnus' cries of rage and desperation to reach you. Though your enemies shroud themselves from his perception, he was able to discern their movement the moment before they struck. He struggles to bridge the gap, to place his hand upon your shoulder and lift you up as you have so many others. It is through the compassion he bears, that you are able to grasp the tatters of consciousness drifting through your afflicted, addled mind and hold firm to them as if they were a rope. But like a rope, the friction and struggle of keeping it in your grasp frays your mind, injures it gravely. But, you have never lacked in resolve, nor have you ever been lacking in stubbornness. Through the agony, you wield your conviction to summon up the will required to do anything besides howl and scream into the void that has become your mind.

"STAY BACK! STAY AWAY FROM ME!" You snarl through a drooling mouth, spitting and frothing as the smell of burning ozone and charred flesh fills your mouth and lungs "IGNORE MY PLIGHT, TURN AWAY! YOU HAVE A BATTLE TO WAGE AS I HAVE MINE! THERE IS NO ASSISTANCE YOU CAN OFFER TO ME, MAGNUS!!"

You cannot hear his reply, as the mind tearing torture rips its way back into you like a second thrust of a spear or the delayed second barrage of artillery upon and already devastated field. But now, now you do not allow it to gain enough of a foothold to overcome you as completely as it had prior! Like a lashing, the second strike aches less as it is anticipated, and by expecting the pain to come you're able to defend against it! To endure it! At least partially, but even blocking a fraction of this torture is a monumental victory against the forces of all that is wicked, vile and Evil! Clenching your jaw, you swallow your screams and through the half light of your fading consciousness you become determined to now allow these devils the pleasure of hearing your cries. They will no longer exalt in the whimpering of their foe, and instead be forced to stew in defiant silence. This struggle, hardens your once crumbling resolve, steeling the will that had began to drift away like grains of sand upon a current.

Kanzeon's crying, serves only to tighten your hold on your consciousness and fleeing thoughts, backing your conviction with her sorrow and grief. Her worry, her pain, alongside that shown by your brother, is enough of a spark to reignite the flames of defiance from the embers of mere resistance. These self named gods, expect you to scream, howl and cry for them, to amuse them with suffering. That is their punishment, that is their goal. To see you bowed, and broken. To react with fury and fear. They want you to break, to lower yourself to their levels. To spit venom and vitrol, or to submit completely.

So you shall do neither, and suffer in silence.
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>>4966662

As your people suffered beneath their puppets. As the world suffered to host their petty games and intrigues.

But even just resisting the urge to cry out, to beg for help or an end to this misery is a battle more hardly fought than any that has come before. In this moment you are the victim, not the savior. In this moment, you find yourself in the shoes of the abused and battered. In the place of Isha, the dying light before you and...And Luli. That thought braces your spirit, and allows your will to flourish and cultivate itself back to its usual vastness. Luli did not break when she was defiled and tortured, and her agonies were beyond sensation alone. Though the devils force a theater of horrors into your minds eye, of past atrocities and the illusions of pleasant futures beneath their yoke and heel, you resist. It is poison wearing the mask of temptation, corruption in the guise of blessings. And though your eyes bleed boiling blood and fouler, nameless fluids they are still able to see these visions for what they are!

Lies! Deception! Seduction of the most odorous form! But you do not grow angry, even as dreams of what you may earn under their thrall, the release of this pain, and the gifts they would give if you would simply kneel and submit yourself to them. No, they did not deserve anger. Showing even quiet disdain towards them would be giving these abominations born of emotional excrement too great of regard. Instead, you swallow this emotion, and all others. They are constructs of passion. Their essence is the same darkness that looks in all men's hearts. To feel in consideration for them or their efforts or their crimes, would only feed them and cement their existence. No. To rebel against their will, you must give them nothing. Not scorn. Not love. Not grief. Not sorrow. Not fear. Not even the seething hatred you wielded against their pawns and slaves.

Sie Nie, Jian Qi, Na Gou, Kong Nue, Chun Qiang. These siblings in malignancy, this family of immorality, shall receive nothing from you.

Nothing except Apathy. More painful than any form of hatred or spite. Cold inconsideration. To worsen to insult, you turn your attention away from them, and focus inwards. In the void of detachment they helped build inside of you, you find tranquility.

Separated from the corporeal, you've left the pain of life behind in a different plane. You have freed yourself from the confines of flesh, the prison of mortality. The four spirits, more vile and wicked than any other, though they attack your soul, afflict your mind, and destroy your flesh, can no longer harm you. They can reach and influence all levels of reality, every world, every plane, every realm. But they cannot reach where you have gone.

And that is Nothing.

Meditation. The ability to erase all feeling, all thought. Is a skill you have honed beyond mastery. In this calm sea of nothing, your essence is free to indulge in the comforts of the true void.
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>>4966666

The relief of waking death, the emptiness of sensation and experience.
If you allowed yourself to, perhaps you would reach enlightenment. True and total enlightenment. But, you yet hold worldly desires and yearnings.

As such, the material or rather unmaterial world is still perceptible to your sense even if your "Self" no longer interacts with it in any fashion.

And beyond nothing. You can still hear the gentle light's crying. The whimpers of a broken spirit. Of an abused woman. of a beaten child.

You emotions rouse themselves, and as you gaze into the abyss of your soul's depths it speaks to you once more. As it did when you sat in silence after Yin Aiguo's defeat. But it speaks in a different tone, a different voice. Yet it remains your own. It tells you, shows to you, reminds you that defiance and resistance are meaningless if one abandons their virtue to carry them out.

Someone is crying before you.
That is utterly intolerable.

Willingly, you return from Nothing and accept the pain of life. The weight of mortality bears down on you, and once more you become aware of the true height of agony the devils inflict upon you. The affliction is worsened, for now you accept all of it into yourself without struggle.

Without fighting back, you passively absorb all of the torments brought against you. They must be accepted, and endured, for like any other pain, they are a part of existence. A component of living. An unavoidable truth that should be embraced rather than avoided and denounced.

To live is to suffer, but that is not all there is to life. And to complete your work and fulfill your duty you must survive. And thus you must suffer.

And accept suffering with open arms
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Magnus couldn't think straight. His mind had always been well within his controlled, his passions balanced by reason and tranquil thought. The mind of a scholar, a researcher. The perspective and worldview of a knowledge seeker, that which was required to learn all there is to discover, even that which other more closeminded men would decry as dangerous or forbidden. He was no automaton , but he had never been controlled by his heart. Its feelings were merely counterbalanced within him by logic and cold reason. He was not one to give into fancy, or superstition, though he was an idealist and considered himself generally genial in nature.

But now, now a black rage had possessed him. He had felt anger many times before. When he witnessed the perpetual suffering of his fellow Prosperans endured while they were still predated upon by the foul Psychneuein. He felt an uplifting sense of fury when he led his fellows against the scourge, bearing fruits from his lonely pilgrimage. Even the irritation he felt when cautioned by Amon or Lieren was a miniscule expression of anger. But never before had he experienced the emotion so vividly.

He had lost grip of himself, of his sense of reason, and became consumed by a potent mixture of bloodlust and sorrow.
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>>4966667

Fear controlled his mind to violent ends, guiding his limbs as though he were a primitive string controlled Marionette. He did not seek answers, but only the destruction of the being that stood between him and his brother. No mystery or curiosity could pull him away from this quest, nor could any danger or risk of his annihilation.

He did not know where he was, what it was he fought, or even what assailed his gentle hearted brother so viscously. All he needed to know, was how much force was required to break the winged being that challenged him and kept him from his wailing brothers side. That prevented him from saving his kin! It was a feral, almost animalistic urge that drove his body forward, without the guidance of his vast intellect and the honed mind that kept it.


He had no desire to know the nature of the entity, with skin as black as ink, and a face like a canids' stripped skull. Nor did he pause to consider the method of the transfiguration of its obviously psionically empowered blade, or the forces and psychic or sorcerous laws that allowed such a transformation to transpire seamlessly.

All the red giant of prospero wished or wanted, was to rip the sneering head from the creature before him, so he would be unhindered in his efforts to rescue his brother from the energies the assailed him. In the back of his mind, beneath the blind animalistic anger that drove him forward, Magnus knew that the forces that surrounded his brothers were controlled and far more potent than anything a mere mortal channeler or entity native to the warp as he knew them could harness let alone muster.

Lieren's warnings and tall tales rose in his mind, further deepening his rage. His pride bowed before it, nearly snapping as he for himself saw the dangers that his brother had cautioned him of, and tried to teach him to avoid. Yes, he saw them, murdering his brother! Kind, understanding Lieren! Bleeding and burning before his eyes.

He did not dwell on if he still lived, only if he could reach him.

Bolts of the pure essence of the raw force of physicals might, of electricity redefined and perfected, of flames mutated into new forms, of winds carrying diseases and the stench of decay fell on his brothers back. Each lance of energy tearing not only into his flesh, but his soul. His back shuddered and twitched as it blackened.

In his fear a voice whispered, in his own voice. Was it his own voice? His subconscious mind offering a solution to his plight

Just out of reach...just out of reach. A little more power...a little more skill and you could save him from his fate. All you must do, is accept the power you let lack

Magnus, caught the wrist of the outwardly demonic aggressor, and for a second in his desperation nearly subconsciously accepted the implied offer of outward assistance.
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>>4966670

Until memory of Lieren's story of the Beguiler of dynasties rose from the depths of his clouded mind, his aged student's voice echoing through the emptied halls of his consciousness

""But rather, she preyed upon the valorous and noble. Men with the wills to stand against the world and fight for their beliefs. Founders of dynasties, heroic warlords and cunning scholars. Men who changed the world by their force of personality and charisma" Lieren's hateful voice growled beneath the smothering rage that had so deeply consumed him.

And for the first time in his life, Magnus hesitated when presented knowledge, when offered power.

Instead, the teachings of the mysterious five elemental cycle his brother had studied, the "Wuxing" returned to him.

And Magnus calmed briefly but long enough to recall the interactions of the elements, how they could empower, weaken and destroy if properly wielded.

Qi. The term of the Long Jia's people for the energies of the warp. Or was it? perhaps, it was a different form of those forces or something less tangible. Something unknown.

"Earth bears metal" he said, as the entity bearing all the similarities of a devil from misled superstition smiled hatefully, and sneered

"What is that you've said, pawn?" He spoke, with a voice like Amon's own.

"How dare you" Magnus hissed, as he realized he was surrounded by earth in the form of stone "How dare you endanger my blood! How dare you mock my mentor! I will see you obliterated! Whatever you are or claim to be!"

"I would like to see you try, arrogant fool of a" The devil, for that is all he could be, condecended

Magnus pulled the head of his brother's polearm to himself, and focused on its ambient energy, beyond the psychic and emotion imprints left within it by its owner and forger. And then, he connected them to the energy of the stone that surrounded him.

To his astonishment, but not surprise the two began to coexist. The energy within the stone feeding that within the blade. With a flick of his wrist, the "Qi activated" blade caught the enchanted blade of the black devil, as he swung it to take his head.

"Impossible" His foe hissed as he struggled to overcome Magnus' psionically magnified strength

"The words of a closeminded fool" Magnus growled, eyes falling on his brother.

His heart rose in his chest, filling with hope as he say Lieren stand, beneath the storm of pure, undiluted destruction. And saw the golden fire surrounding his soul reignite.

Harnessing the swell of emotion, Magnus began his assault against the "wicked spirit" that still foolishly stood between him and his gravely wounded brother.
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https://youtu.be/9k1F3PjY948

You stood to your full height, and ignoring the forces bearing down on you, far stronger than anything you could muster or overcome yourself, you began to bleed your essence into the cage. Guiding the light of your soul, the golden aura of the burning sea it had become, you reached out to trapped light.
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>>4966673

And sought to heal it, by giving up you own life energy as embodied by the ever burning fire of your will and soul to it. The assault paused for a moment, and then began again with renewed ferocity. Four voices cried out in indignation and contempt.

So you'll save those pests the trouble and destroy yourself

"Chun Qiang, you name yourself the master of paradoxes" You whispered hoarsely, as you felt your consciousness drift away as you expended your life selflessly for another "So you of all beings should be aware"

Clenching your jaw, you felt your sense of self and sensation of being alive renewed as the flames of your soul fed upon their destruction and flourished once more!

" The cycle is without end and beginning!" You roared as all of the so called gods fell silent

Oh you're mad! hahaha! Even you cannot mend a god! No matter how brilliant your essence burns

The light in the cage devoured your fire, took it into herself, but your soul was a source that could not be run dry! A endless spring of life and hope!

"WETHER IT IS UNTAINABLE MATTERS NOT! I WOULD RATHER DIE THAN STEP AWAY FROM MY CHOSEN PATH" You roared, challenging the heavens and all of their inhabitants "IF I MUST BURN TO NOTHING TO EASE ANOTHER'S SUFFERING, THAN SO BE IT!"

You fell to your knees, golden flames spewing from your withering skin as you felt yourself weaken. All you had was expended.

"Lieren? Lieren? Lieren?!" Kanzeon cried into your mind as you struggled to stay the course. All that remained was the love you felt, for all of mankind. For existence itself.

You closed your eyes and bowed you head, accepting the fate you had chosen for yourself welcoming the blanket of death that was soon to fall upon you.

But it never came.

The crying stopped, and though weakened and on the verge of death, you heard a voice whisper "Thank you"

The gentle light washed over you, as your fire was no longer smothered and fed upon.

Well, you've proven me wrong, Lieren of Nothing. How...unexpected

The silver white radiance grew, illuminating you as the crystal bars beneath your hands vibrated. A face greeted you from the mists of the cage.

The gentle light of order, now streaked gold by the energy you gave to her.

Exhausted, you remained kneeling before her cage, kept from collapsing because you still held firmly to it.

A hand marred by glowing golden fractures and scars, reaches from the cage to caress your cheek.

So, she was to meek too allow you to burn your soul to nothing but cinders and ash. So be it. So be it! I will finish what you yourself started

NO! We can still claim his soul, you witless fool!
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>>4966674

What do you do, Lieren?

>Shield the cage with your body, as Kong Nue strikes both of you

>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek

>Turn away from the gentle light, she has no need to repay your for your generosity

>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"

>Write in

Sorry for the wait. IRL issues kept rising their heads. Not machines spirits this time.
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>>4966675

>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
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>>4966675
>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
Aw yeah, that's the good shit.
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>>4966675
>Wipe away the blood and defend from the lord of bloods furious assault. Push it to the side, don't defend it head on, that takes more energy than we have.
>Allow the gentle light to touch our cheek.
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>>4966686
Kong Nue, Lord of blood, In a simple word I say to you. OWNED!
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>>4966675
>>Turn away from the gentle light, she has no need to repay your for your generosity
>>Shield the cage with your body, as Kong Nue strikes both of you
>Write-In
>Let our soul burn hotter and brighter still, for that is its nature. And by its nature, these empyrean threats will be made unreal, just as the lesson we learned on the Battlefields of Yan.
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>>4966688
*just as the lesson we learned on the Battlefields of Yan proclaimed.
Jumped the gun a bit there.
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>>4966675
>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
Oh damn, I knew the rock was Be'lakor's weakness.
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>>4966675
>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield
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>>4966693
Well Earth is the element closest to the concept of order.
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>>4966675
>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
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>>4966674
Oh and Malal had BETTER consider throwing in a few more "Gifts" for all the bullshit we are pulling off.

We are besting his every test, So I expect some involuntary reward for pissing of Khorne so much.
Also YAY, MAGNUS LEARNED A THING!
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>>4966710
I don't know, we took quite the beating against goatboy and needed Manus to save our ass.
But should we even take any blessing from him? The eye is ours because it always were with us, but taking more feels wrong, even if it comes with bo strings attached.
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>>4966715
Lieren would outright refuse it, I'm almost certain.
Which is why I say "Involuntary", ie an upgrade we have no IC say in.

As for taking a beating and Magnus interfering, he said it himself that was a pre-test to see if we were worthy to take on heaven shattering amounts of agony.
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>>4966675
>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield
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>>4966675
>>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
>>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
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>>4966675
> Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
> Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
> "Kong Nue. I see you for what you truly are. A coward."
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>>4966710
>Also YAY, MAGNUS LEARNED A THING!
And all it took was his only brother (that he knows of) getting tag-teamed by the ruinous powers.
Somebody draw Khorne in a wrestling ring smacking Lieren in the back with a steel chair while Magnus watches on in horror.
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>>4966807
Oh shit, if we're in a cage match with the big four (and this other weirdo)...
> ...Guys, where's the clown?
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>>4966675
>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
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>magnus actually learned damn well enough the ruinous powers are shitheads and we were right
Well that's one brother we just preemptively saved from their clutches in the house heresy.
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>>4966810
Eating popcorn and silently cheering his kids on while they steal shit from the grand slut while he/she/it/cabbage is distracted.
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>Allow the gentle light to touch your chee >Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
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>>4966905
And another one, couldn't decided which was less bad.
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>>4966675
>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
I'm assuming Lieren is smart enough to try to evade and deflect Khorne's blow as much as possible, possibly using its force to fling himself and the caged god away from it at the same time its pushing against them.
In other news Magnus proved Wuxing stronk, seems the Be'lakor fight would have been much easier if we actually used the elemental cycles.
I'm pretty sure Arianka is truly benevolent at this point, Lieren's eyes see through even the big fours illusions despite the cost so they would tell him if she had any nasty aspects like the other two law gods did in fantasy.
She isn't going to kill or cripple herself helping Lieren if possible, that would invalidate the whole point of him helping her, and her help wont have any strings attached.
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>>4966675
>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
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God fucking dammit, I know this probably isn't something bad, but I can't help but think that us letting her touch us is a bad idea, what if she turns us into her champion or some bullshit like that! What if she taints us to the path of absolute order and has us commit atrocities in the name of "order"

There's also that tenet of the journey that says don't do shit for a reward.

I know I'm just being paranoid but I've been watching a lot of 40k lore videos and I don't trust fucking anything anymore
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>>4967071
>I know I'm just being paranoid
Just remind yourself that Malal has repeatedly told us he doesn't do trick options. If Lieren is ever to get fucked over, it'll be because we want him to.
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>>4966675
>>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
>>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
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>>4966675
> Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
> Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"

"Brother join me, together we can stand. Prospero and Shangrila, bringing defiance and courage to this hells."
"Leviathans of impurities don t you think all of you are forgetting many things now ? Keep giving us your full attention, many of your plans and wicked acts can now fall and shatter without you ! Your manias and desires to win over me, have blind you to all !"
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>>4966675
>>Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek
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>>4967071
Champions are champions due to their mortal temperaments and often desire to fulfil their patrons qualities to a T.

Khorne, Typhus, Lucius and Arhiman are each naturally nearly perfect examples of everything their respective gods desire. They want to do their gods bidding by default, without any guidance or prompting. Being a champion doesnt mean you get mind controlled, you paranoid fuck.

Daemonhood on the other hand, has those aspects of you enhanced and enforced. They become a fundamental part of your nature thay you cannot obey and the gods can direct without any need for subtlety or coercion.
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I swear, lieren better never give anyone shit for being wreckless with things that they don't understand after all this
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>>4967125
Let's not temp the gods as they are about to hit us.
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>>4966813
Support this, by the way.

>>4967193
To be fair, we tried being as careful as possible, we just weren't careful enough.
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>>4967071
It's not a reward, just the circle without end, we have empowered her, now she empowers us, and somehow we both are stronger in the end than how we started.
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>>4966693
>more rock jokes

>>4966675
>>4966688
Support.
It would probably be a bad idea to draw a null denouncement charm with our blood right next to a literal warp god but I want to try it.

Butter for the bread god!
Milk for the khorne flakes!
Eat a diiiick chaos.
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>>4967251
>Perturabo
>Having fun
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>>4967267
In 40K he still considers the chaos gods to need him and does fuck all for them, plus he's the king of siege and therefore of throwing rocks at buildings. He'd have fun.

A specific and certain type of autistic fun.

On that, we should absolutely get him and Magnus together so that this happy trio can unleash psyker abilities and really fuck with chaos properly for the prosperity of their fellow man

>>4966155
>>4966159
>>4966114
Pic as reminder
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I have to say as much as I love the quest I think at this point after going against the gods we aren't going to have any real challenge uniting Shangrala
I'm really hoping for our meeting with the Emperor and getting out in the wider cosmos to track down the rest of our brothers
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>>4966675
>>Turn away from the gentle light, she has no need to repay your for your generosity
>>Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield"
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>>4967298
>I saw you pick up Tzeentch use him as a club to beat Khrone unconscious with
>Thats pretty cool, join me on my Great Crusade and we'll swap stories about the time we sick punked the Chaos Queefs
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>>4967298
I do hope that we get the unification of our planet wrapped up after this, I want to bring prosperity to other planets and establish an alliance, atleast a solar system worth, starting with cowboy planet which we can easily "prosper" thanks to the water stones and their incredibly thirsty planet
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>>4967326
The best parts of the quest to me have been the interaction with Magnus and seeing his take on Listen, that and the brief snippets we get of the Emperor and the 2nd legion.
Canon for whatever it's worth says Lieren is found 3rd after Horus and Russ. Getting to develop a relationship with both in addition to some of the others is going to be sick. I'm really excited for the Khan and Mortarion
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>>4966675
Supporting>>4966688
>>4967331
Morty will be very interesting to deal with. I wanna see how Malal highlights the differences between the Dusk Raiders and the Death Guard too.
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>>4966674
>>4966688
Wait.
>wood generates fire
>fire generates earth
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>>4967444
But wood also overcomes earth.
However earth overcomes water, but is generated by metal.
So the triangle will happen no matter what if we cross beams with Magnus's fight
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>>4966676
supporting
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>>4966792
I'm gonna amend my prior vote with the addition that we try to;
> Channel Reality Flickers Before the Approaching Storm (Harmony)

I think that'll improve our defense against That Big Red Cunt while allowing us to be touched by Arianka.
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So, if this new/old deity of Order, this being of hope yet shining in stoic defiance of darkness and evil, becomes more than an extremely niche being of worship...do you think she'll be the patron goddess of Guardsmen and lost souls (like mutants who didn't sell themselves to Chaos)? She could even become the beloved idol of the Tiger children.

After all, just as every despicable act gives strength to the Ruinous Powers, every selfless deed and virtuous heart should bolster her own divine core.

> If the Emperor's relentless light is an impossible celestial heat that purges the wicked, she might be the gentle morning sun which rejuvenates and renews all beneath it's nurturing auspice.
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>>4967551
They are warp beings, lieren isn't a fedora tipper like daddy but he's not going to encourage anyone to embrace religion
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>>4967556
Too be fair finding not shit gods might be enough to convince lorgar to worship instead of going truly full retard worshipping the chaos gods.
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>>4967592
Lorgar's pod was in the warp for much longer than any of the other primarchs. As a result, he got mindraped much more thoroughly. I don't think there's any saving him.
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>>4967551
>>4967556
>>4967592
We still need to find Alluminas and Solkan. The former is pure light and has an alien mindset, but is arquably the strongest against chaos, while the latter is a bit too purge happy, but should respect Lieren's actions so far.
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>>4967598
as much fun it is to shit on him, it is a shame that there is no saving him.
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Wait, Khorne intends to punch us right.

What if we moved out of the way, so his fist struck the cage, potentially breaking it.
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>>4967614
Seems he is going to use fire to burn our soul away, that's why the vote is to use water.
Trying to dodge is just going to incinerate Arianka after we healed her.
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>>4967598
His problem isn't he's unsalvagable. It's the existence of Kor Pharon and Erebus and that Lorgar refuses to take responsibility. Fix all of that and he'll function as the Emperor intended.
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>>4967601
I'm torn between getting the fuck out of this hellscape ASAP and turning over every retconned stone so we don't miss any neat shit. I hope Be'Lakor didn't kill the only fimir here, I'd like to find a planet of them during the Crusade. And I wanna see if Hoec and Gea are here. And Illiyan Nastase. And the Rainbow Warriors. And the Dark Angel's native american motifs. And Kaleb Daark and the Dreadaxe. Bunch of stuff, really.
>>4967607
Saving all of our brothers from Chaos would make for a boring Heresy. There's gotta be some conflict. The Xenocides should be fun though.
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>>4967620
Fair enough.
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>>4967601
> 10-1 Solkan is somehow involved in the Rangdan Genocide or maybe empowering cavemen to fight fucking Rak'gol out in the Ghoul Stars.
> Meanwhile Alluminas is caught in a cycle of hibernation and struggle as it contends with a fat piece of the Nightbringer.

It's definitely going to be interesting how exactly Lieren compares to his brothers after all of this. It'll also be interesting to see how his brothers will deal with the knowledge of what's happened.
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>>4967627
Wouldn't be surprised if Big E swears us to secrecy and/or has us fight by his side in secret for a few years like he did with Vulkan.
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>>4967630
It would certainly be neat to have Lieren and Vulkan working together; aside from Perpetual nonsense and mutual hatred for the Drukhari, they both have complimenting temperaments. We could do as Ferrus and Fulgrim do, and make something special for him. An anti-sorcery/daemon-denouncement warding perhaps?

I'd love to see more on Dae-Hyun and the noble Second Sons, and how they might interact with the other legions.
> inb4 Ahriman is best bros with the chief librarian of the 2nd
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>>4967679
>We could do as Ferrus and Fulgrim do, and make something special for him.
I've been trying to think of neat gifts for each of our brothers for a while now. I still need to think of something for Fulgrim, Leman, Ferrus, Roboute, Morty, Horus, Lorgar, Corax, and the Twins. Vulkan's gift is a dragon-shaped battle automata. Also been thinking of unique null denouncement charms. Dreamcatcher-inspired for the Lion, amethyst and mother-of-pearl for Fulgrim, iron and red-figure ceramics for Pert, etc.
>I'd love to see more on Dae-Hyun and the noble Second Sons
Hope he isn't a dreadnought by the time we're recovered. And is Second Sons what Malal's calling them? I don't hate it.
>and how they might interact with the other legions
Off the top of my head, tight with the War Born, Dusk Raiders, Storm Walkers, Thousand Sons, and Dragon Warriors, unfriendly with the War Hounds, Revenant Legion, Rout, Night Lords, Imperial Heralds, and XIXth, and no strong feelings towards the rest.
> inb4 Ahriman is best bros with the chief librarian of the 2nd
It'll be just like our relationship with Magnus before this whole Malal kerfuffle, I have no doubt.
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>>4967697
What Fulgrim needs most is to learn to meditate.
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>>4967752
Really nice cushion then? Maybe a lotus throne? I'll take suggestions and post the finished list when it's done.
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Calling the vote now. Burnt the fuck out of my hand with tea.

Allow the gentle light to touch your cheek:19

Wipe your hand with blood, and utilize the Qi of water to defend yourself from the lord of blood's furious assault, channeling the light of the caged order to further empower your "Shield": 17

Turn away from the gentle light, she has no need to repay your for your generosity: 4

Shield the cage with your body, as Kong Nue strikes both of you: 3

Let our soul burn hotter and brighter still, for that is its nature. And by its nature, these empyrean threats will be made unreal, just as the lesson we learned on the Battlefields of Yan.: 3

"Kong Nue. I see you for what you truly are. A coward.": 1

"Brother join me, together we can stand. Prospero and Shangrila, bringing defiance and courage to this hells.": 1

draw a null denouncement charm with your blood: 1

Channel Reality Flickers Before the Approaching Storm (Harmony): 1

Total votes: 22

So Lieren will allow the light to touch, and then use his own blood as a source of Water Qi, then channel the positive/ benevolent Qi of the Light to form a shield against Kong Nue's blind and all consuming fury

Writing now

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>>4966906
Fucking fantastic, great work
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>>4967911
Kong Nue is trying to harm Malal, on both the physical and fictional realms.
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>>4967911
Honestly we shoult have channeled earth but nobody would vote for that.
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>>4967933
I dont get the fucking Wuxing thing.
It makes no sense to me. Everything seemingly leads to everything else.
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>>4967933
It will be fine, water does it's job against fire just as well as earth.
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>>4967933
Thing is water also shits up fire just as well as earth does, so this is perfectly acceptable.
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>>4967933
Something Something warp bullshit, something something we believe it works therefore it does, something something malal is really into shitty chinese novels, don't think about it too hard
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>>4967942
It's just rock, paper, scissors with five options, but the elements also hurts a second one and sometimes the rules can be inversed.
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>>4967947
I'd say its a guilty pleasure, but that'd imply shame in my enjoyment
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>>4967942
>Everything seemingly leads to everything else.
That's the point.
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>>4967956

Hey Malal, is there any good wuxia novels to get into, or just look on amazon under Wuxia?
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>>4967999
First rule: popular does not mean good.
One of the best xianxia novels (Reverend Insanity) got banned by the CCP.
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>>4968005

So why was it banned? Too popular, or did it ref something that was also banned?

I thought there was a cult following for wuxia?
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>>4968005
Porbably because everything that is good is banned by the CCP.
But yeah, the popular ones are like isekai anime tier, copy-pasted stories that drag forever and pull shit out of their. Atleast more than the other ones.
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>>4968012
Because the protag acted like and actual psycopath evaulating each option by their qorth, and commiting crimes against humanity while making propaganda about him being a good man, instead of doing crimes while the world bent around it and proclaimed it was justified.
It might have hit too close to home to Winnie the Poo.
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>>4968005
i will never not get mad reverend insanity got the ending it did, such a disservice to the rest of the series.
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I mean saying something is banned by the ccp is just gonna make people curious.

How many chapters are there? I'd hate to start it only to find it has like 20 chapters. I'm still hurting from Cupanon disappearing, I miss the Warning The Emperor story he had going.
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>>4968012
Let me give you an idea of how ass backwards China can be.
When Kung Fu Panda came out and became a global sensation, especially China, Chinese filmmakers started asking why they weren't first ones to make something like this. See in China wuxia media is so common to the point that the Chinese rarely comsume any that isn't some derivative of wuxia, which is how gun-fu came about, John Woo wanted to make a mobster crime drama so he slap on wuxia tropes to make it sell. As a matter of fact Kung Fu Panda is standard wuxia fair.
What they found was the CCP is stupidly restrictive to the point China has no chance of achieving media dominance over the world. Nothing is allowed to "misrepresent" China or the CCP thus must be carefully vetted before being globally released. Hell not even Tencent is safe from Chinese bureaucracy since they lost dominance on the computer industry to Taiwan because of it.
That should tell you how fucked China is.
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https://youtu.be/jedFvpziGqo

The ribbon streams of moonlight issuing forth from the gap within the crystal cage wrap around the fragile hand that reaches through the same gap. The gentle light is cautious, unsure, but the gesture is a reassuring one. A show of gratitude for your supremely selfless action and concern for your well being. But, the spirit of order's movements remain weak and frightened. Yet, despite the dread the lords of hell have forced her to wallow within since a time before time even flowed, she still reaches for you even if the show of brace defiance may worsen her torments or even bring about the utter obliteration of her essence. The light is cool, yet comforting. A autumn night's winds. The lakeside of calm waters. The smile of the thankful and indebted. You bow your head closer to the cage, unable to move much further. The weight of the wounds you bear, self inflicted or otherwise upon flesh and spirit, disallows anything more complicated and labors movements even as simple as inclining the head.

"You idiot! What do you think you were doing! That was...incredibly irresponsible!" Kanzeon says, trying to scold you but her relief and joyous sorrow overpowers the biting tone she means to impart "By all calculations of probability, that actions would have only endangered yourself if not completely terminated your existence! How could you so easily risk your life, you idiot!"

You can tell she's concerned, though that would be obvious to any who heard her voice. She's crying. You can almost feel her tears upon your cheeks once again. With tired eyes, you look into the maiden of frost, locked still within her cyclopean prison of glass and living gemstones. For a moment, your mind plays a trick on you, and you see first Kanzeon and then Luli, and then Meixiu in her place. She tilts her head to the side, a smile parting her pale white lips as she manages to reach her hand beyond the bounds of her confinement.

Her tears have frozen to her snow whitened cheeks, alternating between polished silver and molten gold. Her finger tips brush against your bleeding cheek. The flesh has sunken in there, and the skin has become taught and dried. Above your head, you can feel the storm summoned by Kong Nue's overwhelming bloodlust and blazing rage. It approaches, with the presence of a war's arrival, the herald of unavoidable unavertable doom and tragedy. The war cry of the father of battle itself. The carrion call of murdered souls and worlds put to the sword in slaughter. The familiar taste of blood dances upon your blood, oozing into your skin as the aroma nearly makes you drunk upon the heady adrenaline born in the midst of deadly fight. Against your will, your lips peel back into a murderous sneer, bearing your teeth like the fangs of an animal. The air itself has become charged with concentrated killing intent.
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>>4968047

And then, like oil lit a flame by a spark, the will of the lord of blood coalesces into a singular point, and ignites into a carmine flame woven of boiling blood and the howls of the battle maddened! Wordlessly, the gentle maiden of the comforting light, gives you permission to take from her the very energy you mended within her.

Healing and empowering that which did the same for her. An exchange of Qi, and life force. Though your body and soul remain battered and weak, the touch of her hand upon her cheek and the view of the light the core of her essence generates is enough to start the wheels in your minds turning once again. There is not even a moment to conceive and carry out your plan, but you're able to accomplish that none the less.

Employing the inter-regulating and overcoming cycles of the Wuxing, you place your hand over hers and gently brush past its ghostly flesh, to wipe the blood from your cheek to coat your hand. It stands to reason, in a place ruled by paradox and raw chaos, that which empowers a force can be turned against it. Blood, holds a variety of the Qi of water and life within it. Though among the folk traditions of Shangrala, it would be considered a malignant force, the tool of vile sorcerers, blood itself has no negative qualities. In fact, it embodies only the beneficial. When stripped of superstition and the connotations forced upon it by the human psyche, blood is only good. It carries the essence of life itself, and binds families together with bonds deeper than any other. It roils with the building blocks of life.

So, to the contrary of the barbarity that Kong Nue embodies and what most men associate with blood, the substance itself harbors no evil. All it holds is life.

Like water itself.

Both can freeze, and harden sturdier than steel under the right conditions. Conditions you can will into being. You cannot flee, or stand, your legs have failed you and you lack the energy to do so even if you had the will to. You cannot turn in strike, for your arms ache and prickle with unseen pins and nails. Looking upwards, you briefly see the hound like face of the enraged spirit, within the black and crimson flames he calls upon you.

Raising you hand, you focus what energy you can yet bring to bear, and channel through it the essence of the order mended. With a furious narrowing of your eyes, your forced sneer breaks into a snarl of stubborn defiance. Hair whipping upon the swells of corpse fires summoned by Kong Nue, you stare into his image's eyes.

The blood springs from your hand, as if it had come to possess a life of its own. It twirls around itself, forming an arrow in the center of your palm that swiftly expands into a half formless spear of the scarlet water. The spear head breaks, spilling itself to spread in the air. A curved shield forges itself above your head, and the cage you still hold with your right most hand.
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Silver and gold crawl over the crimson pillars rising from the lines of your palm, like winter's morning frost. More blood flows into the spring formed in your hand, feeding into the shield. Like a web of disembodied veins, the currents of still warm blood bulges and shudders with the exchanging and interlinking of its disparate currents

Ethereal waters, colored as moonlight and the warm hues of a setting sun, run through these "veins", strengthening and further filling the shield they combine to form. Like snow spotted with blood and the rays of the sun, the three forces merge into a greater whole. The geyser shield holds against the rage of the blood god for much longer than it would if you formed it without the aid of the gentle light.

For moments that seem like centuries, you stare into the visage of murderous rage incarnate, bowed by the raw killing intent and inhuman fury that it brings to bear against you in the form of vivid red and deep onyx flames. The pressure increases, the fires roar and grow to surround you. Like claws, fangs, and pitted blades, they dig into the sides of the shield protecting you and the light of hope from the rage summoned forth by a lord of hell itself.

Tongues of black flame, tendrils of carmine flame, lances of molten brass all fall against your spiritual defense. It holds, shuddering and quaking, but it holds all the same. But, it cannot endure the assault much longer. For even if the being that aids you was once his equal, Kong Nue's strength is boundless. All that can be done, is to hope the power of your combined forces is enough to outlast his assault long enough until one of his so called "Siblings" interferes. If they stand idle, there is no escape and all that awaits you is an fiery execution. A funeral pyre amidst the tombs of the forgotten.

However, just resisting Kong Nue, is a victory in of itself, judging from the ever rising anger in the eyes of his image writ in flames, he expected you to die the moment he brought summoned the forces you now guard against. You grin mockingly, beneath your "cracked" bulwark. The energy and essences that form it, burns and becomes tainted by Kong Nue's own. It sickens and battles against itself, turning against you.

Soon, it will shatter and then you'll be consumed by a column of fire that burns with the heat of the fires of hell.

And then, the unexpected happens. A new Qi reinforces the bulwark made of blood. The Qi of metal. And in turn, as Metal collects water, the shield is bolstered greatly enough to endure a few moments more! It stands! It stands as Magnus adds his own energy to the effort, while still matched against the Be'lakor in single combat! Truly your brother's might and prowess in the field of psykerism far surpasses your own.

But, even the three of you, the golden eyed giant of Shangrala, The red skinned Giant of Prospero, and the trapped light of hope cannot withstand the direct attention and wrath of a being as powerful as Kong Nue!
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>>4968056

With death quickly approaching, you sigh and rise to your feet, to show your enemy the folly of his ways by defiance alone. But then, as the wall of blood, moonlit frost, and the very sands of Prospero splinters down the middle, a second unexpected occurrence arrives.

Guozhi's staff, coated in the ice that characterize the techniques of the wardens of mysteries sect, pierces through the veil between worlds. Wrapped in dozens of null denouncement charms, carved of a queer bone like material that equals or even surpasses the metal that makes up Kanzeon's body, the staff carved from burnt wood embeds itself into the crack forming in the combined bulwark.

Magnus, with his peerless mastery of manipulating the energies of the Empyrean, guides his own power to expand the Qi imparted by Guozhi's improbable interfere. And as his essence is added to the shields mass, a sixth completely alien essence spills into it as well. Tiny golden flames line the edges of the shield, as you realize Guozhi conducts what power the Wanderers in the Fog disciples posses to reinforce it, following the odd white flame that dances along the edges and cracks made into the wall by the sheer force of Kong Nue's assault.

And, the moment the white light meets the brightest of the miniscule golden flames, the shield freezes solid.

A mingling of Water and Metal, Heaven and Man, has over come the flames of slaughter long enough for the other master of chaos to interfere and draw Kong Nue's attention away from you.

At the very moment his attention is divided, the shield shatters and the gentle glow of moonlight wards off what flames remain. Through unity, the wild assault upon your body and soul was weathered and endured. You collapse on your back, gravely wounded and too exhausted to muster the energy to stand any for a second longer.

And then, the shadow of great wings falls over you.

"STAY AWAY FROM HIM!" Kanzeon wails as Be'lakor strides through of storm of emerald lightning and orbs of superheated plasma

With a determined glint in his eye, he raises his blade, one of side of his body skinned to the bone by one of Magnus attacks.

You see your Brother, beneath a collapsed pillar that is already in the process of being obliterated by his strength. He rises to his feet, levitating as he moves to charge the cowardly first of the fallen, who strikes at you when you are unable to defend against his attack. Be'lakor sneers maliciously, licking his teeth almost hungrily as he brings his viper blade down and.

Finds it split into two from tip to hilt, as a force greater than himself or the caged light emerges accompanied by a vanguard of gilded spirits.

By the intensity of the burning sensation alone, you recognize the brilliant figure before you, dressed in resplendent regalia of a gold that surpasses your own soul's fire in magnificence a thousand fold.

Magnus is able to speak what you realize.
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>>4968058

"FATHER!" He cries out in overwhelming jubilation as you lay prone, tears falling upon your cheeks.

Well, I suppose you've proven yourself worthy, godling

A voice, as powerful as the voice of a mountain, like a thousand bells ringing at once, like a celestial chorus answers Chung Qiang's mocking sneer.

"Begone shadow, you cannot exist where the light of reason shines!" Your father commands "Begone parasite! from this realm. Away from my sons!"

The first damned backs away, shying like a terrified pup.

What do you do Lieren?

>Cry, overwhelmed by emotion from meeting your father, even if it is only within the astral plane

>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.

>Mock Malal, Be'lakor, and the four other self named gods, asking if that is all they can muster!

>Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor, his fight is with you! Not Magnus! Not your father!

>Write in

>>4967999
Depends on what you're looking for. If you wanna read Wuxia, Xianxia or the cultivation sub genre specifically. And the feel of the story.

>>4968037
It has 2,334 chapters. Cultivation stories tend to last for an outrageous amount of time.
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>>4968060
>>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
We're so grounded.
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>>4968060
>>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
>apologize to everyone for creating this mess
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>>4968062
Adding
>Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor, his fight is with you! Not Magnus! Not your father!
Just in case this is a hidden Ruyi Jingu Bang option.
I want that magical staff, Malal.
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>>4968072
Honestly I'd be up for that too.
>>4968068
I'll add
>Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor, his fight is with you! Not Magnus! Not your father!
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NGL, we fucked up I think considering Big E had to show up.
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>>4968060
>Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor, his fight is with you! Not Magnus! Not your father!
>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.

>>4968087
Don't worry about it anon, dad sees we had the adamantine balls to spit in the face of khorne and fought bel'akor to a stand still
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>>4968058
>carved of a queer bone like material that equals or even surpasses the metal that makes up Kanzeon's body
Wait. Is that some form of Wraithbone? Or could it be from a warpbeast.
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>>4968060
>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.

>SON NO, DO NOT QUEST FOR THE SHIP-FU OR ELDAR GOD!
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>>4968060
>Cry, overwhelmed by emotion from meeting your father, even if it is only within the astral plane
>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
And they say this guy is a shit father. Absolutely based.
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>>4968089
Well at least he knows lieren somehow manages to piss off all the chaos gods, is pretty damn firmly anti chaos, and between him and magnus fought a damn daemon prince to a standstill.
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>>4968091
I'd say wraithbone since it's described as bone like, instead of just bone. Who knows how he got some though. Speaking of, where's our eldar waifu? Did she take a wrong turn on the way here or something?
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>>4968060
>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
>Grab Guozhi's staff and keep it, you should return it to your friend, and there's no reason to demand a honourable duel from a being that doesn't deserve it.
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>>4968099
Pre-Rangdan Xenocide he was a pretty cool guy which everyone forgot including the writers. Post-Rangdan is when he became an asshole.
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>>4968110
I assume he had a reason for becoming as detached as he was...right?
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>>4968113
Having to disappear the canon 2nd and 11th, probably.
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>>4968060
>>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
>apologize to everyone for creating this mess

Daddy dearest is gonna be pissed that we're concerned about a god, hopefully he doesn't disappear her. Though hopefully he'll realise now that starving a chaos god wont destroy it, it'll just be incredibly subtle until it poofs back into existence.
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>>4968113
When you gotta yeet 2 of your sons and there kids...Can fuck a man up.
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>>4968104
I thought wraithbone was more like a plastic.
> Speaking of, where's our eldar waifu? Did she take a wrong turn on the way here or something?
Slaanesh is here you know. You do remember that part right?
>>4968113
>one primarch died in the war
>one primarch turned traitor so he had to be put down
>Imperium was almost destroyed undoing all his work and possibly dooming humanity
Just some minor events.
Fun fact did you know Angron was found after the Xenocides?
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>>4968060
>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
>Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor, his fight is with you! Not Magnus! Not your father!
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Just realized that the elements of Heaven and Man were mentioned, and last update Lieren talked about achieving enlinghtment.
It means Malal is using confucionism, taoism, budhism and folklore. Yin, Yang, the tree elements, wuxing and nirvana together plus whatever divine blessing should allow for pulling a lot more crazy bullshit in the future.
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>>4968119
>Slaanesh is here you know. You do remember that part right?
Very well. But I'd assume that she knew that too and didn't do the equivalent of throwing herself into a cum-filled wheat thresher knowingly.
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>>4968126
Future sight is a thing you know.
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>>4968117
Fortunately lieren seems to be decent enough provided we aren't stupid enough to tell the emps about our robo waifu, cause that might get us purged.
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>>4968122
Well I've been thinking that it should be possible to develop beneficial mutation using cultivation. You know stuff like the golden eyes of truth, machine spirit communication, manipulation of the winds of fate. Those are abilites we can develop.
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>>4968060
>>Cry, overwhelmed by emotion from meeting your father, even if it is only within the astral plane
>>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.

Can I post the Copypasta?
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>>4968132
Indeed it is. And it's existence makes it even less likely that she'd throw herself into the cum thresher that is Slaanesh.
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>>4968145
Huh? What copypasta?
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>>4968145
Which one?
Do it.
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>>4968145
DO it.

>>4968104
>Who knows how he got some
>Where's our eldar waifu

You answered both those questions yourself.
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>>4968060
>>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
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>>4968158
Ah. Well, we're going to have an interesting homecoming at the very least.
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Also an interesting detail to note it the elements the 4 original ruinous powers seem to favor are Water, Water, and Fire meaning that a Metal and Earth focus could counter them pretty well.
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>>4968177
Dammit. That's suppose to be "Water, Wood, and Fire"
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>>4968155
>>4968153

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>>4968060
>Write in

Thank the golden man, whether you will come to call him father is yet to be seen, but you are grateful he has saved you

Write in
>stand and call out to magnus your intent to free this being of order, ask for his assistance if possible before we are thrown from this realm
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>>4968060
>Drag yourself to the cage to check on hope
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>stand and call out to magnus your intent to free this being of order, ask for his assistance if possible before we are thrown from this realm
+1
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>>4968060
>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
>stand and call out to Magnus your intent to free this being of order, ask for his assistance if possible before we are thrown from this realm.
If tossing the staff is attempting a death blow on Be'lakor at the perfect moment when he is already crippled then...
>Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor, his fight is with you! Not Magnus! Not your father!
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>>4968282
Also adding calling for magnus to aid us in freeing hope.

Because dad isn't going to help
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>>4968060
>>Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor, his fight is with you! Not Magnus! Not your father!
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>>4968060
>Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor, his fight is with you! Not Magnus! Not your father!
>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
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>>4968060
> Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
I feel like this is going to be one of those frustrated yet proud moments for Big Dad. And he hasn't even met Lieren's girlfriend yet!
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>>4968121
This plus
>apologize to everyone for creating this mess
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>>4968060
>>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
>Grab Guozhi's staff and keep it, you should return it to your friend, and there's no reason to demand a honourable duel from a being that doesn't deserve it.


>>4968087
It s an heavenly tribulation. But beside that, no Lieren is very very prudent. He was more interested in investigation than a fight in the hells. Of course he expected something that could go wrong, but probably not like this.


>>4967298
I wouldn t be so sure that they would be easy. Lieren received some help in this fight. Neither Kamal or Nitya are "common" or "average" foes.

Personally i find this part very interesting, since it s the one where we can think and create anything we like, as well creating a solid foundation for both Lieren and Shangrila peoples, which will be relevant in the future.

We can do that even in the rest of the quest, but honestly not so much when it wil be part of the imperium. Beside the fact we will likely have more stuff to think about.
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This is going to lead to a very different Nikaea
Very different
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>>4968742
I am glad you believe that.
Because it wont. Nikea was to satisfy the anti warp primarchs, not because of the real and tangible benefits the closure of the libraries would achieve.
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>>4968772
Even then it's going to be different, with Magnus a bit more calm he should be less combatative of the idea of a librarium, so perhaps he would be willing to compromise, and with Lieren's experiences with the sect, it could lead to a librarium that is a bit more balanced between power and restraint.
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>>4968791
The librarians are already big about balance and restraint.
You forget the Khan and Sanguinius had a hand in the formation of librarians instead of just magnus. But by mortorian and Russ, they leveraged a massive hateboner and Russ supplied testimonies of his wolf priests that all of the thousand sons were daemon worshipping and craven sorcerers with zero redeeming graces, which had the emperor justify by ruling in their favour.

So unless we change the verdict, ie stop him from passing condementation on the librarian issue, nothing at all will change.
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>>4968815
Hey, I said more, not that they weren't in the first place. Because Lieren will definatly vote in favour of one, just structured differently. After all, the moment he tried taking Magnus advice and trying to do things a bit more radical, he revived a fifth chaos god.
Actually, with Magnus a bit wisened up to the tricks of the warp, maybe the space wolves hatred for the thousands sons will be lessened. Or not, Russ was quite an asshole and so was his legion, umyou don't get to be the emperor's executioner withou a reason, no matter how.much GW triea to.make them some sort of misunderstood champions of good nowadays.
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>>4968060
>Cry, overwhelmed by emotion from meeting your father, even if it is only within the astral plane
We should plead to papa E to end Be'lakor's existence. We have gazed on him and found nothing redeeming, and as we make our case:
>Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor
>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
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>>4968819
>crying to big e to end our foe for us
>crying just cuz he's here and instantly falling to your knees in worship to him like that bitch fulgrim


Big E-money is going to have to prove himself worthy of our loyalty and more importantly of calling himself our father, for now wenyan is our only daddy
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>>4968060
>>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
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>>4968060
>>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
>Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor, his fight is with you! Not Magnus! Not your father!
gpjga
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>>4968818
Russ isn't WRONG to be incredibly wary of the warp. He also isn't wrong to not like how reckless magnus is. He and his legion ARE assholes.

And their dislike of eachother won't go away, due to the inherent problem of "your psykers are all witches, while my psykers get their powers from the spirit of fenris and only my people have the inherent connection of the land to draw on that spirit, so only my psykers are not bad".

God russ' religious views are annoying.
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>>4968964
Leiren's wuxing array concept will turn them into 3 buddies. And because of this, Magnus and Russ will be allies if not friends.

Also since Magnus got to fight Daemons first, Russ will end up respecting him for it.
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>>4969028
I see it as having Russ go from hostile to tolerant towards Magnus.

...an improvement all things considering.
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>>4968060
>>4968383 +1
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>>4968060
>Write in
Apologize to our Brother and Father for all the trouble we inadvertently brought to them, and for the awakening of this chaos god.
Ask them if freeing the caged entity might offset the damage done
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Alright, here are the gifts I've thought up for our brothers.
>Fulgrim
A gongfu tea set, made in the wabi-sabi style out of psychically-attuned clay. It’s style of artifice embodying the acceptance and beauty of what is incomplete or imperfect, the use of this tea set is intended to be a meditative experience. The material used in its construction only further aids in this use.
>Perturabo
A massive, self-adapting puzzlebox inhabited by a shackled AI. It cannot be solved the same way twice and the solver must complete 32 (4 x 8, unlucky made lucky) different puzzles. Inside is a deed to surveyed lake or riverside land on Shangrala, set aside to become the site of a new city. AI offs itself when beaten.
>Jaghatai Khan
Mastercrafted psyber-hawk grown from Shangralan stock. Adamantine talons and beak, 3rd eye replaced with a mastercrafted lasweapon, voice box spliced with cloned human vocal cords so Jaghatai may speak through it. Can easily gap a peregrine falcon in a controlled dive.
>Rogal Dorn
A beautifully-crafted Go board featuring a shackled AI opponent for single-player mode. As there are more legal board positions than there are atoms in the universe, it is the perfect lesson in outside-of-the-box thinking. Note the similarities to Perturabo’s gift and wonder. The pieces are made of black and white jade.
>Konrad Curze
A set of scales with a set of psychic weights that each correspond to a different crime. When weighed against the blood of the accused, the weights will be lighter if innocent, and heavier if guilty. The heavier the weight is, the more severe the punishment recommended.
>Sanguinius
Pure-gold circlet intended to grant the wearer increased psychic control and potency. Levitates over the wearer’s head (like a halo) and glows when active psychic powers are used. Can be thrown like a chakram.
>Angron
A sweeping bas-relief depicting Angron’s early life, years as a gladiator, uprising, and an idealized result of his rebellion, a world in which no child is born in bondage and will never be forced to kill their kin. Made of psychically-active metal which induces a feeling of hopefulness and calm whenever viewed.
>Magnus
A scholar’s rock shot through with veins of the warpstone from Vipul’s cave/Kanzeon’s crash site. Serves as a curiosity, object of meditation, and reminder of the fate of those who think to deal with Empyrean intelligences.
>Vulkan
A highly-advanced battle automata built to resemble a dragon of old Terran myth. Actually a simple AI, primitive compared to Kanzeon, but still sentient and self-aware, albeit bestial. Flies, breathes fire (or melta), has facial recognition software that prevents it from being used against humanoid children.
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>>4969537
I had an idea for Lion, but it was just an Arthurian myth reference and didn't address is crippling autism and lack of trust. Anyway, critique and suggest your own ideas, especially for the ones that don't have any.
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>>4969537
No shackled A.I.s anon, Kanzeon already is foing to be difficult to hide without creating new ones and handing them to people.
>>4969542
How about a panther fur, preferably one of the first ones we hunted? To signify how we also landed in the wilderness and spent our beggining fighting creatures alone before helping Nothing. It could be a way to show him that we understand him in a way, and is willing to listen. Also to ahow that opening yourself is how we conquered our inbuilt autism, so it could help him?
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>>4969537
Anon, you're overestimating the recourses and knowledge we have to an absolutely absurd degree, not even the emperor could make half this stuff if he tried
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>>4969568
Do we even have any of the furs from that era?
I guess we might be able to track down one or two of the skins we gave to Tax Collector Ling way back when.
I'm sure a few were redistributed after Gao was executed, and I imagine their owners would be knowledgeable of their history.
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>>4969568
>No shackled A.I.s anon, Kanzeon already is foing to be difficult to hide without creating new ones and handing them to people.
Cawl hides one in plain sight. The problem with Kanzeon is that she's a whole ship/primarch-sized person.
>>4969572
Resources maybe, knowledge no. Kanzeon fills that niche, as she's a DAoT relic. Read the passages when we're exploring her for the first time.
>not even the emperor could make half this stuff if he tried
The Emperor made us mate. We're much more complicated than any of those things.
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>>4969568
>How about a panther fur, preferably one of the first ones we hunted? To signify how we also landed in the wilderness and spent our beggining fighting creatures alone before helping Nothing. It could be a way to show him that we understand him in a way, and is willing to listen. Also to ahow that opening yourself is how we conquered our inbuilt autism, so it could help him?
Not a bad idea. We could use it to line a nice cloak for him, it'd make him look like Ned Stark.
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>>4969537
>>Angron

Frankly the best gift we can give is teleporting to his side when he is finally cornered.

We will provide succor to him and his brethren.
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>>4969587
That goes without saying. Brotherly love and support are salves to almost any wound.
As far as trinkets go though, I'd get him some Primarch sized Baoding balls Specifically ones made of Adamantium so he doesn't crush them when he has an episode.
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>>4969574
I was betting that perhaps weynam or someone on Nothing would have one and would be willing to trade.
But maybe the effort of tracking down one of the old furs would add a bit more sentimental value to the gift too.
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>>4969587
>We will provide succor to him and his brethren.
Inshallah this event will come to pass, brother. But if it doesn't, I thought he'd want to feel something other than anger from time to time.
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I'm starting to wonder how much time has passed on the Material realm. At least long enough for Gouzhi and the others to find us (both physically and spiritually). Last time we ventured away and saw Big E after an intense fight and passed out for 3 weeks. This shit is 10000X worse, I wouldn't be surprised if we get back and find the Jinhai has finished fighting the wars and a lot of people died without us there to help fight them.

But hey, in the meantime we awoken the greatest evil in the galaxy and got a major powerup for it....so there's that.
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The best gift we can give to Lorgar would be a collection of teachings and the risks and predators of the warp.

That and a mission to free trapped warp deitys not for worship or veneration. But for reflection and understanding.

Each species, each god is the collection of a species's best and worst qualities. He shall understand this and realize that while the gods ARE worth worshiping, they aren't inffalible or all knowing. They are just like us. Beings who struggle against a cruel universe, and that each hand is necessary to resist it and to make a brighter tomorrow.
Where our brothers build machines, weapons and cities. Lorgar shall build The Pantheon.

Where all our gifts and powers strive to bring a limited future where we survive and thrive against enemies that have no end. That are infinite as the emotions and suffering powering them.

Lorgar shall be the one to bring a hope for a galaxy that is no longer in eternal war. Where all its infinite disagreements and conflict are made better by faith. It's edges trimmed of betrayal and false hope. Its temptations exchanged for selfless desire to help all.
Its wars replaced by dialogue and its despair overcome at every turn by iron will and burning faith.

It is a task impossible for man and god. But it is the only task he would find true excellence at Beyond all his brothers and even his father. Even armed with just his meager talents (meager compared to Horus, Guiliman, Dorn....etc.)

He shall be the least. Yet he shall be trusted by the most. By both god and man. that their shared future welcome the present and not feast upon it.
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>>4969706
>He shall understand this and realize that while the gods ARE worth worshiping, they aren't inffalible or all knowing

No, fuck no, hell no, never ever, uh-uh, zip it, never gonna happen, no way Jose, bipitiboobop suck on my two cocks, not a chance, null and void, rejected, I'd rather brap, positively unbelievably unconditionally no to no no to the hell no no!
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>>4969706
https://youtu.be/8QxIIz1yEsA
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>>4969733
You don't get to speak for all men. And there will always be men like Lorgar.

You cannot stop them from doing their thing. All you can do is to make sure they don't burn everyone's houses down and sacrifice all the chickens if you want them to be productive non-chaos members of society.

Also, I've never seen Lorgar played straight but untainted and set against chaos. It would be interesting to explore.
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>>4969706
Hell to the fuck no.
Get him to tone down his evangelism and keep his beliefs on the down low, like Russ, and we will all be so much better off. Do not encourage him to be more brazen.
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>>4969537
> Fulgrim
The tea set sounds fine enough, if a little...trite? He's the pretty son, so he gets the pretty thing, yada yada.

> Pert & Dorn
Both of those sound fine, but a hard NO to the AI.

> Jaghatai
You could just as easily gift him the knowledge we gained on Aeldari Aethersails (so his boys can go even faster!) But sounds fine enough. I always feel like mutilating/cybering critters is bad though. Maybe just a regular hawk.

> Konrad
Waaay too on the nose there. Scales? Really? I would actually say we give him a collection of philosophical works, poetry and the like. Konrad needs something offering love and HOPE in his life, not another voice yammering about what is right and wrong.

> Sanguinius
Sounds pretty tame, but sure, I can see it. Could always give him and his sons a seed garden of tough plants from Kanzeon's vault; something something a small token that offers greater fortune with time.

> Angron
This one would be absolutely worthless if we can't save him from the Nails before it's too late. Either by finding him before the surgery takes place, or intervening in the war against the High Riders/saving his comrades from certain death.

So much of Angron's character, and future, are riding on his early years. Even without Meta knowledge, witnessing the disparity of wealth and power, the heartless waste of lives for butcher's entertainment, ought to be enough for Lieren to lead an assault with or without the Emperor's permission.

> Magnus
No. Not the green shit. Offer him as many strange Shangralan relics and mystic shit as you want. The only reason he should have anything to do with that shit is if we ask for his help destroying them.

> Vulkan
Sounds fine. Maybe a little on the nose, because dragon = salamander, but sure. Could also give him pieces of ancient archeotech; he'd probably love new things to tinker with. The man was a fantastic craftsman in more areas than just the forge.

>>4969542
I'd just give him a great dao covered in Null Denouncement Charms and a few bottles of Dragon's Spit.

As for Mortarion, I'd give him both a collection of poetry, art, etc. along with seeds and such. Grim lad needs something to fight for besides spite.

I think Raven bro would be pleased by just having a friend. Maybe some terraforming tech to fix up his homeworld?

As for Leman? He needs a shot in the fucking mouth. And then maybe a beer.
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>>4969706
The better option would be the free the Law gods and make him replace his pantheon.
Atleast that way his evangelism is neither for edgelords or a redditor.
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>>4969922
>He's the pretty son, so he gets the pretty thing
It isn't pretty, google wabi-sabi. That's the point.
>but a hard NO to the AI.
It was the only way I could think to give them an adequate enough challenge. If they both only exist to make puzzles and play Go respectivley, what's the problem?
>I would actually say we give him a collection of philosophical works, poetry and the like.
Konrad (and all the other primarchs) have access to poetry and philosophy by virtue of existing in a post-printing press society. They choose not to read it, is all. What he needs is concrete assurences that the worst doesn't always come to pass. I was hoping the scales would nudge him in that direction.
>Sounds pretty tame
He's perfect, I was struggling to think of something.
>This one would be absolutely worthless if we can't save him from the Nails before it's too late.
If it's post-nails, I'd thought he might want to be able to feel something other than rage, even if it's psychically-induced.
>Not the green shit
Malal is really going to have to repeat his anti Laer Blade stance, huh?
>Maybe a little on the nose
Welcome to 40k
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>>4968072
>>4968082
>>4968089
>>4968105
>>4968121
>>4968383
>>4968420
>>4968463
>>4968592
>>4968819
>>4968957
Why throw the staff and fight Belacor when Lieren is out of juice? Why not keep the staff and ask for some help?
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>>4970159
Did you actually read my vote or just skimmed through everything? Because I edited it to het the staff and keep it.
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>>4970182
you may have change it but it doesn't change that voters vote for fighting on an empty tank.
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>>4970159
Lieren isn't out of juice and Lieren defeating Be'lakor would be a major philosophical victory for Lieren.
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>>4970187
That's fine, I just don't want to be put together with the others when all I wanted is to have a bit of wraithbone and return a friend's belongings.
Also realized another anon copied that my edited vote, nice.
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>>4970146
Anon, just because touching the stone doesnt make you crazy crazy warp worshipping daemon prince, it doesnt mean giving it to magnus is a good idea. Nor does it mean fucking around with it, is a good idea.
That damnable rock, can probably be utterly wiped from the face of existance and have a net positive for everything. But the closest analogue we have is something like uranium. Which is not a good party gift.
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>>4970195
Assuming the worst like that is never a good thing to do in this universe. If we run experiments with it and it turns out that there's jack shit it can be used for, save corrupting the weak-minded, I'll vote to shoot it into the sun. But until we know for sure, claims that it's good-for-nothing warpshit are nigh-baseless grimderp inferences.
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>>4970192
Lieren barely had any energy left to stand. That says something.
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>>4970194
yeah i did, and like you i was put in the same group
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>>4970159
because anon we have to go even further beyond
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>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.

Its not like we wont get another chance to fight Deamons. Doing this and continuing a fight when the fight is pretty much over feels out of character.
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>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
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>>4970159
I voted for tossing the staff only if it was a actual good opportunity at death blowing Be'lakor, I fully understand Lieren can no long fight and one other anon voted with me.
I doubt Malal would count my or that other anon's staff throw vote if the intent of that option is to resume the full blown duel out of foolish anger when Lieren is at 1% capacity, rather then just be a opportunist if possible and make sure Be'lakor doesn't shamble out of this without being banished to the deep warp for a few centuries.
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>>4968060
>>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.
>Grab Guozhi's staff and keep it, you should return it to your friend, and there's no reason to demand a honourable duel from a being that doesn't deserve it.
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>>Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.

excited to see how all this wrap's up
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait. Hopefully the incense sticks I ordered will arrive soon. Burning the sage one right next to my router, swear to the Omnissiah

Drag yourself to the cage, and check to see if the Caged hope is still alright.:24

Apologize for your folly: 4

Grab Guozhi's staff, and throw it at Be'lakor, his fight is with you! Not Magnus! Not your father!:11

Cry, overwhelmed by emotion from meeting your father, even if it is only within the astral plane: 3

Grab Guozhi's staff and keep it, you should return it to your friend, and there's no reason to demand a honourable duel from a being that doesn't deserve it.: 3

stand and call out to magnus your intent to free this being of order, ask for his assistance if possible before we are thrown from this realm: 5

Ask them if freeing the caged entity might offset the damage done: 1

Thank the radiant man: 1

Total votes: 28

So Lieren will drag himself over to the caged light, to see if the hope within remains intact, that the spirit endured the tribulation

Writing now.


>>4969537
Nice write up. I like Fulgrim's the most, since Gongfu is life.

>>4969922
>>4969706

Also nice
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>>4970727
Don't burn incense near your computer, you're just gonna get sediment in your fans over time.
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>>4970727
>I like Fulgrim's the most
As he was close to being Imperial Chinese himself, he'd find such a gift enjoyable.
>Gongfu is life.
I believe you, but I'm afraid my tea habits are far too anglicized to know.
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However, the cowardice of the spirit is little concern to you. As are the wounds you suffered, and the fatigue chewing through your flesh and fevered mind. Even your creator, your "Birth" father's arrival and intervention on your and Magnus' behalf is insignificant, secondary in importance alongside your own wounds and weakness. The only thing that equals your main concern, is Kanzeon's own for your safety and well being and your guilt for inflicting such pain upon her oh so recently mended heart . For it, is similar to what drives you onwards despite the blistering agonies in your muscle and the smothering haze swallowing your mind.

Worry. Dread. Guilt. Shame. Fear. The emotions you feel for Kanzeon, resonate with those that now surge through the faltering beating of your heart. The wayward hope that she'll recover and be as she was, content and happy. That concern holds an equal amount of your thoughts to that which entice and empower you to drag your damaged vessel , your wounded body up the narrow steps leading to the casket of Crystal and Ice, and to the cage that floats above it. The bars surrounding the gentle moonlight, have been cracked but not yet sundered. Golden flares and sparks of light spit from the confines of the ancient prison. Your father continues his threats and proclamations, standing protectively between you and Be'lakor and the legions of Monstrosities that have begun to crawl from the grave soil to feast upon the released and yet forgotten prisoners of this hellish manse.

Magnus calls out to you, as the sound of crackling fire and snapping thunder shakes the tomb deeper than its foundations reach. A war in the heavens is waged above your heads, shadow and light comingle and battle around you. Sand, feathers, glass, fire, lightning and ice are swept up by the winds that whisper through the once stagnant air. A screeching demonic howl pieces through the cacophony of wails and curses spoken by mummified lips and chattered through bare, bleached skulls. Rivers of molten tallow and pus drip from the ceiling, evaporating on the sun like radiance of your creators' unconcealed essence. Your nails carve alabaster grooves through the black stone, and pitch colored scratches in the white. Battling against the weight of your own flesh, you lift your body and crawl up the caskets side and pull yourself up. Your legs slip under you, as if they were now made of water rather than flesh. But through sheer force of will, you hold yourself and slowly right your posture so it'll be able to support your weight as you kneel before the caged light.

Every moment is torture, worse than any you've witnessed. Every atom, every molecule of your living body screams out for an end to suffering, a release from the hell that has become contained within your genetic code. But it is naught but pain. All pain must pass. It can be endured, and you shall endure it.
Cont
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>>4970769

Huffing through your nose, smoke and vapor rise from your lip as you shuffle yourself nearer to incandescent bars of the ancient prison. Sighing, you fall forward and press your face against two of the bars. The shards that drift away from the cracks formed by the intense heat of Kong Nue's rage, dig into your skin but do not cut you. All the words shouted, curses and insults slung, have become static to your ears. Only Kanzeon soft, comforting cooing and your own breathing are perceptible in a form beyond empty noise.

Reaching forward, you roll your hand through the fog illuminated by the golden cloaked silver moonlight that gentle glows within the heart of the cage. Narrowing your eyes, you peer deeper, desperately searching for the spirit that was held within the prison. And nearly collapse and faint from sheer relief as you spot her specter, shaking the bars opposite of the ones that you've fallen against. With split between silvery white and burnished gold, the once despairing maiden now actively rages against and tests the durability of her prison. And you can see, upon her body, numerous chains hang, held to each other by heavy locks forged or carved from Brass, shimmering glass, polished silver, and moldering bone. And that her limbs are bound together by white and black jade shackles, that curve like tear drops. Gone are the rags of winter's frost, now they've been replaced by armor forged of golden fire and silver ice, in the style of a Long Jianese general. Like Long Jia Daiyu herself, but the way her short cropped hair is styled reminds you more of Kamakshi, but the fire in her eyes most resembles Tao Dandan. She is unaware of your presence, as she struggles and pulls against the chains that hold her, eyes blazing with cold fire. Until she hears your second sigh, as you struggle to maintain consciousness. Though Your beloved means wells, her attempt at comforting you only serve to lull you closer to a dreamless sleep.

You'll have to find a way to apologize to Kanzeon, and the others when you awaken in the material realm. But the soft pattering of bare feet upon glass rouses you alert once more. When your eyes open fully, you find yourself looking into the the maiden light's eyes. It would seem by combining your essence with her broken core, her nature has shifted enough that the raw force of her being no longer hurts to observes and watch. Or perhaps you've simply become adjusted to her presence and the agony it should bring. Perhaps your senses are numbed, overwhelmed by the rigors of the so called "Heavenly Tribulation" You had endured.

Her scarred lips part, and she leans to you. Kanzeon's heart bristles, perhaps fearing she intends to steal a kiss, before she alters her course and holds her lips barely an inch from your ear.

"Arianka" She whispers, her voice trilled by a light southern Long Jian accent
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>>4970770

"That is my name, oh selfless loving child. That is my name, and I already known yours. I...cannot in words describe my gratitude, and the debt I owe you. Though no fear finds its home in your heart, your bravery is unmatched oh child of humanity, adherent of prosperity and virtue. One day, I shall be free, but only because of your sacrifice. And when I walk unchained once more, we shall meet again, this I promise. Be it days or years or centuries, we shall meet again, Warrior of the ever burning sea of golden"

And with that, she stands, and begins chipping at her bars with renewed vigor. But you are stunned silent, unable to speak any oath, utter any promise, or defiantly roar a proclamation. For in her eyes, you saw your reflection.

And it was not as you remembered it.

What curse has afflicted you, Lieren?

>Liar's Eye

>Ogre's Mask

>Time's Burden

>Discordant Essence

>Write in

And What bounty have you won, Lieren?

>Heart of Tender Moonlight.

>Soul's fire, refined.

>The Vessel opened.

>The Gentle Giant's hateful glare.

>Write in

Sorry for the wait. House's Internet was down for nearly two days.
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>>4970773
Uh........Given how potent these curses and rewards seem to be can you actually give us some info on what they are besides a their name?
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>>4970773
>>Discordant Essence
>>Heart of Tender Moonlight.
I'm not entirely sure what a write-in would do here. Is the idea just to pick cool words and let the master make of it what he will?
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> Write in: Eternal Cycle of Age: We are Vigorous youth one day, Full Grown the next, Elderly the third. And again and again the cycle of life.

Youth- Endlessly learning and growing. Peerless creativity and wondrous energy flow through us. We are Birth and rebirth We are consumption and freedom
Wind and Fire Elements

Adult- Physical strength peaks. we are unmovable like mountains. Our form is imposing, and our ability to inspire entire worlds is only matched with our ability to nurture growth and promote life.
Earth And Wood Elements

Elder- Age Bring Patience and understanding.
Our powerful frame looks almost fragile despite it's immense power. Our mind and will however have matured and the quiet reflection of our fading fire allows us the mastery of long, well hone, reflection. Our body weakens but our connection with the warp is at its most intimate
Our ability to shape it reaches its peak, and even the most chaotic sea is brought to peace.
Element: Water and Metal.
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>>4970787
There is a good reason air isn't covered by Wuxing. Qi was the air.
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>>4970773
Would like to know what they mean but
>Discordant Essence
>The Vessel opened.
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>>4970773
>Discordant Essence
>The Gentle Giant's hateful glare
I'd really like some clarification as to what these are, but I'm gonna assume there's a reason they weren't described in detail.
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>>4970773
>Write in
>devils horns
Two horns are now growing upon your forehead, forever reminding you of the shame of your carelessness and your appearance is now closer to the hated devils that you battle against

>Write in
>Great selfless teacher
By your very presence you push others to be the very best they can be, strongmen will be stronger and wiser, fast men will be faster and cleverer, kind men shall be even kinder and have the wisdom to know when they must be harsh!

And within these men, once they have reached a certain point within their growth, deep within their souls you will see a small flame, barely a candlesworth, that paradoxically feeds and grows upon itself...
So basically we got fucked up by the chaos gods, and now have mutant horns that make us look closer to our most hated enemies, but because we withstood the attentions of all four of the chaos gods (and malal) at the same time we have gained the power to give boons to those around us, we won't be making any empyrial saints like dad can, but we will be able to make humanity and all who we love better, harder, faster, stronger and more resistant to daemons than any other who have come before, I pick this because if lieren were to ever have a boon he would choose something that helps others more than help himself
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>>4970773
would like to know what these mean so we can have a better understanding for our choice.

Otherwise, my vote is
>Discordant Essence
and
>The Vessel Opened.
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>>4970773
>>Liar's Eye
>>The Gentle Giant's hateful glare.
paradoxical, just like us.
>i dont want to know what they mean
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>>4970773
>Discordant Essence
>Heart of Tender Moonlight.
Ogre's Mask I'm assuming is basically an ugly mug, and Liar's Eye would be that our all-revealing eye is no longer as accurate (or accurate at all). Not confident on the rest, but I can't help but think that each curse dampens one of our key strengths, those being our perceptiveness, charisma, physical might and psychic prowess, in that order. Maybe Time's Burden makes us "older" and less fit to fight physically then before or something. I might be completely wrong though I'm not too sure.

As for the bounties, Soul's fire, refined is pretty self explanatory and The Gentle Giant's hateful glare sounds like it'll make our enemies shit themselves 500% harder on sight. No clue about the other two. They all sound useful so I would happily go with any of them myself.
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>>4970773
>>Time's Burden
>The Vessel opened.
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>>4970773
>Discordant Essence

>Soul's fire, refined.
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Why the fuck are we getting cursed!

This is some heavenly tribulation bullshit or whatever, we've already been beaten up, our soul is on the verge of collapsing, malal now exists, why do we need MORE punishments!

Sitting through entire weeks of this drawn out fight was punishment enough!
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>>4970773
>Discordant Essence
>The Vessel opened
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>>4970773
I like the penalty from this guy >>4970826
>devils horns
Two horns are now growing upon your forehead, forever reminding you of the shame of your carelessness and your appearance is now closer to the hated devils that you battle against

>Write in
>Golden Sea's Warming Embrace.
Essentially our own version of the healing biomancy, but heals more spiritual and mental wounds than it does psychical. You know might as well tie off the heavenly tribulation reward with something we've actually did. That or maybe it could purify warpstuff that has been tainted.
You know like doing a self targeted AoE attack that damages evil entities, and fortifies nice ones? I'unno.

Will we be able to work towards removing any one of the curses we get?

Can we still pick up the staff? I don't want to lose it, and I'd really like to return it to our mentor turned student.

>>4970854
ngl, I'm kind of peeved as well, but we can try working towards removing the curse.
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>>4970773
Crown of the Forgotten and Never was King
Liren has grown further in stature but now he bears two large horns arching from forehead and back, his hair once compared to a mane is a literal one and his teeth turned sharp. Yet those king eyes remain.

>Blessing
>The Vessel opened
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>>4970773
>Demons horns
Like belakors.

>The vessel opened.
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>>4970773
> Ogre's Mask
> The Vessel, Opened.
This is exactly what I thought was going to go down. There's no way we would go through all of this without the Chaos pricks throwing a spanner in the works.

I was thinking about voting for Time's Burden but stopped myself; the worst thing about growing old isn't *aging*, it's *forgetting*. Cursing Lieren with fits of Alzheimer's would be awful.

>>4970854
It's not the end of the world, calm down.
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>>4970773
>>Discordant Essence
>Write in
The Neverending High Heaven Star of Order and Prosperity


Not sure what they mean, but I suppose negatives are something the gods prepared and throw together on us. I imagine discordant essence will mix our golden light with theirs ? Due to not having clues, we can only speculate what happens next with the effects of the curse. I imagine each would give a sort of "taint" ? I recon you don t consider them stuff like the blessings of chaos mortal pawns, but something just against us, a negative burden against someone that has been consider a foe of chaos through and through. It wouldn t spread corruption, otherwise our body would kind of kill it self or well Lieren would lmao for obvious reasons.

In regard to the bounty, it s something above the usual growth so who knows. If we go for more exotic write in names, i imagine they will become very different from what we can imagine.
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>>4970773
>Discordant Essence
>Soul's fire, refined

The mighty d4 has spoken, rolled a 4 and 2.
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To add to what I said, I imagine this will tie in with the "negative" our legion and future chapter will have.
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>>4970839
Knowing Chaos, Time's Burden and Ogre's Mask will be more insidious, like memory loss and a face so terrible that we now have a harder time bonding with humans.

We definitely need to spread the tale of what happened though; it ought to lessen the blow if Lieren's comrades and disciples know he was cursed aiding a stolen goddess.
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>>4970931
Could just start wearing a mask.
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>>4970773
>Ogre's Mask
>The Vessel opened.
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Well Vessel is what we were described as earlier.
"A vessel which pours power unto others and is poured into in turn" so I imagine the "Opening" of such would likely entail the expansion of our psychic powers or stamina I assume.

Heart of tender moonlight is obviously something to do with Arianka, because she is the moonlight maiden. Defender perhaps. Some form of defensive quality or suffusing our golden light with hard quality.

Hateful glare is "killing with stare" probably. While refined soulfire. . . I dunno.
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>>4971010
>While refined soulfire. . . I dunno.
Probably crafting.
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>>4971021
Why would our soul becoming better made and more easily controlled relate to crafting?
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>>4971027
Fire is closely connected to making stuff?
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>>4971042
if this is a Wuxing thing, I think they were being literal when they said "your soul fire is more refined" rather than symbolically.

I wonder, was there a path where we didn't get cursed while still completing the trial?
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>>4971049
That would have likely required a proper cultvation method.
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>>4970773
>Ogre's Mask
No more pretty boy Lieren I guess.
>The Vessel opened.
This one sounds interesting.
>>4971049
The one where we didn't job to Be'lakor and needed Magnus and Emp to fight for us?
>>4970854
I agree that this fight was torture, but I we are getting cursed because we failed to achieve a good sucess, freed Arianka, or it's just Malal's paradoxical nature.
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>>4970773
>Liar's Eye

Probably the only one who'll vote for this, but the narrative implications of it are just to attractive to leave alone.

The idea that Leiren would lose that one traits of his, that one power that he has relied on more than any other, would be a massive lose for him especially so early on.

If it takes away the ability entirely, or even if it makes it less effective or less reliable, it will mean that he will never again be able to just look into someone's soul to grasp who they are or what their hearts want. he won't be able to 100% see past lies or illusions or fabrications.

And I like this because it'll force him to learn how to trust people, truley trust them. With his vision of truth, he would never have to fear of being tricked or lied to, he would be able to know that the person her is putting his lot with is worth the effort. Without it, he will have to truley learn to trust others, to learn how to decide who and when to trust. he likely already knows this, but it'll be different without his eyes giving him a peak behind the curtains.

He'll have to hope that his trust will be well placed, hope that those who earn his trust out weigh those who betray it, and hope that the descisions he makes are the right ones. i find this idea of him learning that hope, and losing this primarch power, to be interesting enough narrative wise to vote for.

Plus, it'll make him more Human in some measure. Closer to the mortals he loves so much.

>heart of tender moonlight

This one cause i like the name of it, and it might be related to Arianka. Not a wordy explanation but all i got
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>>4970773
>Write in
>devils horns

>The Vessel opened.
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>>4971069
I wouldn't call it Jobbing, since we are primarily a martial hunter rather than a psykerist or warrior. I think getting outdone by the first prince of chaos, warrior supreme is entirely fair and our resistance, bearing in mind this fact, is more than commendable.

But regardless the "true trial" as the gods say was being hurt a lot, if this was a lie when we didn't die immediately or if it's the truth, I think it was from here that our curse sprung from. So in what manner co-. . Hmm.
Much as I hate to say it, I think it was our healing of the god of moonlight which damned us.
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>>4971101
If it was, than it was worthy it.
It's much better for the galaxy to have a chance to be saved, than to not have a curse. Maybe one day we can find a way to fix it, or simply learn to deal with it.
I say that it's jobbing, even if understandable in a way, speacially beacuse instead of trying to be an ambush hunter, Lieren tried to fight head on.
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>>4971101
Lieren had everything he needed to beat Be'lakor. EVERYTHING.
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>>4971105
How the fuck would we not job, this is the basically God of chaos undivided and we're fighting him as a baby primarch without powerarmor or anything fancier than a spear and some armor, no the fact that that armor can change shape doesn't actually help us fight better

>>4970773
Malal please, for the love of all that is good I know that curses are normal in shitty Chinese novels but after everything lieren has been through during this battle just putting a curse on him because is a decision worthy of a GW writer, aka it's shit
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>>4971108
Wtf are you talking about anon, that entire fight was about survival, we did way better than expected
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>>4971110
I think we have different definitions of jobbing, that's why there's a disagreament.
>>4971111
Calm down anon, Malal hasn't fucked us over yet, there will probably be a way to overcome this curse and turn it into a strength in the future, or it becomes blessing in disguise.
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>>4971110
Except it s far better than a shitty power armor lmao. Did you read so far what it did ?
Very quick self repair, able to change position of armor parts (or reinforce them by taking plating from parts not under attack) at literally fucking whim, assistance in healing wounds, able to use armor electricity and plasma has an offensive measure multiple times, withstand numerous hits (not cuts, just actual brute force and impacts direct at it) without breaking or losing major parts, substantial increase in strength and so on, very advance hud and we can probably continue.
Lmao normal spear wtf you are actually saying.
Custodes would cry for have even a piece of the Guandao we have, and guess what that too changes it s structure at whim and it self repair.


The blade that was used against us "passed" things. It didn t stop it literally passed them. The cuts of the blade where direct at our own body, safe to say that Be'lakor was using something for pass our armor while slashing at us.


And in regard to the curse, we saved someone. Saving someone wasn t what malal wanted us to do. He wanted to see just a fight. We passed over that and decided even to save someone.
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>>4970773
Curse
>brand of sacrifice
The ruinous powers have promised immense rewards to whoever brings them your head or soul and their concentrated ire greatly thins the veil around you.
>The Vessel opened.
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>>4971069
Changing to support this anon.
>>4971142
Just because I want to see daemon bounty hunters
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>>4970773
>>Discordant Essence

>Heart of Tender Moonlight.
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>>4971158
> Daemon Bounty Hunters
This is how we encounter Skarbrand, N'kari, Sarthorial, etc. I'd love to see some of Lieren's gene-sons purge the fuck out of some daemons too.

Also, if you think about it, freeing Arianka straight out of the gate would likely have been impossible for anyone save the Emperor himself.

I still think Lieren did great fucking up Belakor. He's not even fully grown yet, but has surpassed every obstacle set in his path. 'Losing' to the Ruinous Powers in exchange for healing Arianka's wounds is pretty fucking fair to my mind.
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>>4971142
+1
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>>4971110
>but after everything lieren has been through during this battle just putting a curse on him because is a decision worthy of a GW writer, aka it's shit
>Waaaaaaah the QM is doing something I don't personally agree with! How am I supposed to self-insert if the MC isn't perfect like me?
Please stop.
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>>4971142
Supporting this.

I understand the need for a curse but this one gets us and our sons towards the inquisition legion route, and more daemon encounters.

Just blase 2nd legionnaire when another fricking daemon appears spouting that they will destroy their legion, only for the legionnaire to get off the pile of already dead daemons.
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>>4971158

Omg if we get your curse picked, then the lamenters could be our successor chapter, just with shitty luck diverting daemons their way.
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>>4970773
>>Discordant Essence
> >Heart of Tender Moonlight.
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>>4971111
Lieren made several foolish mistakes. Embodying time against an entity that lives in a realm where is meaningless, acting arrogantly against a powerful opponent, and not using Wuxing despite studying it so thoroughly with the intent to eventually use it to counter daemons and sorcerors.
These are all massive and inexcusable fuck ups.
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>>4971285
I didn't make the write-in, that other anon did. I will however shill for it.

Common lads! This is the chance to get a better inquisition and grey knights!
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>>4971290
>>4971290
I wonder what would have happened if we embodyied the journey, channled earth, made hit and runs, salvaged for weapons or freed more spirits from the coffins.
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>>4971290
Hey, I voted for using the Mein of Harmony, but you don't see me throwing a bitch fit.

Malal isn't even making anyone roll, and we ALL know how fickle 4chan dice are.
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>>4970773
>devil horns
Two horns are now growing upon your forehead, forever reminding you of the shame of your carelessness and your appearance is now closer to the hated devils that you battle against
You can cut them off and shave them down, but they will always regrow

>The Vessel opened.
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>>4971142
+1
we are now guts lieren
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>>4971110
Not even a Xianxia thing. It's purely a warhammer thing viewed through Lieren's eyes.

You got bathed in the combined energies of four fucking chaos gods trying to break your will in a gambit to corrupt you, and then endured Khorne attempting to destroy you while he threw a tantrum.

In the depths of the warp. Like really deep in there

Now what happens in 40k when someone gets exposed to warp energy, especially a lot of it?

Mutation. Which Primarchs are not immune to.

Remember how Lieren reacts to any form of Chaos corruption? And How he tends to describe what he sees in an at times overly poetic manner?

Its a mutation not a magical curse, though the definition is often blurred in both Warhammers.

Its happening because Lieren did not break beneath the full weight of Chaos, and survived the blood god's murder attempt. Lieren didn't block the "tribulation" until Khorne flipped the board after the four were unable to dent Lieren's resolve and tried to heal rather than harm.

Its a battle scar, not a punishment. Holy shit.

Not calling the vote yet, btw. If you guys still want an explanation for the choices, I'll give it.

Passed out about as soon as I finished the update, so I wasn't able to answer that before
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>>4971412
>Not calling the vote yet, btw. If you guys still want an explanation for the choices, I'll give it.
Informed decisions are the best ones, so I wouldn't say no to an explanation.
Also I'm right with you, with everything that's been going on, it'd be pretty much impossible for some of the warp to not have rubbed off on Lieren.
I say it's a good reminder of what happens when we fuck with the Warp too much.
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>>4971412
God, Bless give the explationation
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>>4971412
Aight m8, I admit I'm in the wrong.

Was just pissed off because we took a real beating but seeing it through the lense of mutation it makes sense.
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BTW, commission anon here, someone give me wenyans symbol if it's already been made, I need it for the next piece
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>>4970773
>>4970812
Switching the curse to this
>brand of sacrifice
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>>4971412
>If you guys still want an explanation for the choices, I'll give it.
Give now
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>>4971412
Please explain Malal.
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>>4971412
Yes for the love of prosperity give us an explanations for the choices.
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>>4971422
Wenyan is a farmer. He doesn t have a symbol. Do you mean Guozhi by chance ? Or the Wanderers of the Fog or Chen ?
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>>4971416
>>4971419
>>4971425
>>4971431


Liar's eye. One of Lieren's eyes blackens and becomes to reverse of his other eye, seeing only what is untrue/ false.

Ogre's mask. Lieren's body, his face especially becomes more like an ogre in cruel mockery of his well restrained rage.

Time's burden: Lieren is supernaturally aged until he appears to be a greatly venerable sage, around Guozhi age.

Discordant Essence, Lieren's spiritual energy/ signature becomes discordant and upsets balances and worsen imbalances in the Emperyan's winds. Basically altering the elements around him and within him to different forms/ into conflict. Think of it like him subsuming the vortex of raw discord he devised that woke up Malal. Makes him MORE of a walking paradox.

Bounties. These are happening BECAUSE you basically fed yourself to a god of Law, but survived because Paradox soul.

Heart of tender moonlight. In healing Arianka and the brief connection between their beings, Lieren has taken some of her "moonlight" into his fire. Which basically means Lieren has access to that "Yin" energy alongside his own "Yang".

Soul's fire, refined. Lieren's soul has been wrought and reforged through the trial he's undergone, refining it. Brings harmony to the paradox.

The vessel opened. Lieren sometimes refers to his or other's bodies as a "Vessel", he also does it when refer to his soul. This bounty refers to both. In that, his self and body are more separated and that the exchange of energies is more efficient.

The Gentle Giant's hateful glare. Lieren has seen to much shit he shouldn't see, that should drive him made, and he's stared at it long and hard. His piercing/burning glaze, is now literal if he focuses hard enough, literally tearing through what he looks at rather than metaphorically.

And all of the write ins are valid, but they explain themselves besides a few

>>4971420
It's fine, I should've explained it better. and Used mutation instead of curse, in particular.
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I don't get it when 1 option is a mystery box anons can't vote for it fast enough, but when it's several boxes it's too scary and they have to be demystified.
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>>4971447
I don't either, desu
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>>4971445
>The Gentle Giant's hateful glare. Lieren has seen to much shit he shouldn't see, that should drive him made, and he's stared at it long and hard. His piercing/burning glaze, is now literal if he focuses hard enough, literally tearing through what he looks at rather than metaphorically.
>can now literally burn holes into people with a stare
>only primarch with long ranger hold out lascannon tier eyes
>has to wear specially made sunglasses all the times less he destroyed everything
Fucking dammit my sides. Become Cyclops holy shit.
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>>4971412

I would quite appreciate having an explanation for the choices, that way we can all make an informed decision about what we gain and suffer for our blessing and curse.
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>>4971449
Could we get a extension on the voting time so anons who voted blind will have a chance to come back and change their vote because of the new information available?
>>4970773
>>4971142
I voted for vessel opened as our boon before, changing that to...
>Soul's fire, refined.
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>>4970773
In light of this >>4971445 new information, I am changing my vote >>4970839 to be
>Liar's Eye
>The Gentle Giant's hateful glare.
Both of those sound interesting as hell, and I would love to see them.
My ID may have changed because of my internet being bullshit, so I linked my previous post just in case.
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Hmmmmm, either devils horns or the guts daemon curse look like the best mutations


As for boons, I think either moon or soul refined are best.

Vessels makes us into even more of a warp entity than human which I suggest we avoid as much as possible

And hateful eyes is just another weapon to kill people with, so not lierens style
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>>4970912
I change mine to

>>4971445
>Liar's Eye

But i keep my write in.
>Write in The Neverending High Heaven Star of Order and Prosperity
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>>4970773
>433U5B9l
hanging my vote wherever the fuck it is too.


>Discordant Essence
Or
>Bounties

And for good blessing?

>heart of Tender Moonlight
or
>Sou's fire
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>>4971458
It'd only be fair to give them a chance to change their choice instead of saying what it is, then a few hours later calling. Which seems like a dick move to me
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>>4971098
switching to
>Soul's fire, refined.
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>>4971449
Just leave it a mystery next time. Lieren doesn’t know, so we shouldn’t either. Unknowns are rare enough, as 40k is a popular ip. Whatever mysteries you can give us to vote for should stay as such until the vote’s over.
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>>4970773
In light of Malal's recent explanations;
> Time's Burden
And
> Heart of Tender Moonlight

It would be interesting if the Ogre Mask won though; Lieren could potentially become the patron of all abhumans, beastfolk and mutants who were the otherwise innocent victims of Chaos.

>>4971453
With the Cloud-Walking technique and the super strength, stamina and endurance of a Primarch, he's fucking Chinese Superman.
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>>4971445
>Time's burden
do we get the fu manchu mustache and beard? please tell me we get the fu-manchu mustache and beard
Soul's fire, refined
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>>4970773
>devil horns
>The Gentle Giant's hateful glare.
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>>4971445

Changing from>>4971370
to
>devil horns
Two horns are now growing upon your forehead, forever reminding you of the shame of your carelessness and your appearance is now closer to the hated devils that you battle against
You can cut them off and shave them down, but they will always regrow (gradually)
>The Gentle Giant's hateful glare.
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>>4970825
>>4970773
Changing to
>Devil's Horns
and
>The Gentle Giant's hateful glare
I apologize for contributing to the nightmarish task of counting up all these votes
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>>4971484
I don t think it would be enough for become a patron. Most of their mutation aren t just warp by nature, but even chemical and so on.

Beside that Lieren would look ugly enough to scare anyone, even mutants i bet. And since he loves kids and people in general, it would be really detrimental for his mind and emotions.
Becoming suddenly a very old man is also a very big mental burden, not something you can say "ah just a meditation and it s nothing". And not just for him, but even others.

Beside that it also a negative for his legion recruits. At least the other negatives aren t so invasive in his body. This two negatives are the ones that scare me the most for him, because i recon they would hurt his mind/emotions and the ones of others the most. As well his body.
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>>4970773
>Ogre's Mask
Seeing people react to this pissed off looking giant just being a nice guy would be interesting
>Heart of Tender Moonlight
Just sounds like what Lieren would pick
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>>4970773
>Time's Burden
>Heart of Tender Moonlight.
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>>4971505
Yeah, people are wanting fu man Choo meme now which is why they're choosing the old man option.

They have eyes but do not recognize mount tai! Without the proper time to cultivate life experience lierens appearance as a old Sage is meaningless!
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>>4971142
>>4971069
>>4971445
I'm changing to
>Bounties/brand of sacrifice
>Heart of tender moonlight
Do you know how much bullshit we can pull with the acess to an extra element of Yin?
And tge bounties just make perfect sense within the narrative of having a piece of law stuck in us.
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>>4971546
But if I understood it wrong and the bounties are something that will happen no matter what, than my second vote is a combination of ogre+horns, make him look like an oni.
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>>4970773
>devils horns

>heart of tender moonlight

>>4971549
But anon, magnus already exists;)
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>>4971555
He is the red oni, we can be the blue one.
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>>4970773
changing >>4971385 from the vessel opened to >Heart of Tender Moonlight.
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>>4971559
I just realized that a bunch of hindu gods are blue.
>>4971546
>The mark of sorcery
Like has brother Magnus, Lieren's skin has turned into a unatural shade, in this case an azure blue, with a soft shimmer.
If it's not enough of a mutation, it could make Lieren ore sentsitive to the warp, easier to detect or something like that.
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>the entire heresy is now just one big Red vs. Blue joke
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>>4971583
You talk like it wasn't before.
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>>4971585
Holy fuck I see it now.
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>>4970902
I'm changing my vote from here to

>Brand of sacrifice
but maybe make it an actual brand that someone could recognise, like some weird glowing tattoo or something on our head or the like.

>Tender heart of moonlight.

>>4971447
>>4971449
One mystery box is throwing away all your certain options on a gambit which could work or could not. It's willingly choosing to ignore the certain in hopes of something better happening, a gamble.

When all your options are mystery boxes, you may as well roll a dice at that point for all the clever thinking you could do. It's not to do with fear, it's to do with having meaningful choice.
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>>4970773
>>4970773
>>Liar's Eye.

An eye that sees only false hoods and a eye that sees only truth sounds fun to deal with.

>Soul's fire, refined.

A strengthening of Leirens Soul and should flow out to all those he's tied too.

Question Malal. Does Heart of Tender Moonline only effect Lieren himself or does it spread out to everyone he's bonded too as well?
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>>4970773
>>Bounties/brand of sacrifice
>>Heart of tender moonlight
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>>4971588
>but maybe make it an actual brand that someone could recognise, like some weird glowing tattoo or something on our head or the like.
If it wins, it's gotta be picrel
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>>4971596
Make it the lotus of the journey amd I'm in.
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>>4971596
Mmm, I like the style, and I hope the gods don't put their own brands on his face. They shouldn't, given they only do that for their champions.

>>4971597
Why would 4 angry spiteful gods put the mark of the philosophy denouncing them on the person they are trying to break, kill and torture, who also made that philosophy?
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>>4971590
Given it alters our soul, and our soul is what is given out, it effects everyone.
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>>4970773
>>Liar's Eye

>Heart of Tender Moonlight.
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>>4971464
Becoming more like a warp entity is unavoidable. Such is the nature of cultivation.
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>>4971142
+1
This one is for you Kentaro Miura, you are loved and cherished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZa0Yh6e7dw
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>>4971290
This guys makes a fair point. Should we compile a pastebin for future demon fights on how to proceed?

>>4971641
Hopefully when the time comes, Lieren gets to keep his body, rather than becoming restricted to the existence of being a pure thought form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwxatzcYf9Q
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>>4971641
Nah m8, at the very least I will always push to keep lierens head out of his own ass and remain just a man, a great and powerful man but a man none the less
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>>4971668
The point of cultivation is to become an immortal/god. Unless he abandons his goal of self-improvement he will inevitably become something more than a man at the very least.
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Ok, I tried to count the votes to see who's winning, and not only is it a nightmare because of the new explanation and people changing votes, but many anons also voted multiple options or were indecisive, and a few who made write-ins of powers that were basically one of the options that already existed, or lone ones that end up not mattering (I'm guilty of doing all of that too)
So far Bounties/Brands are winning after many jumped from essence, with Horns right behind.
For the blessings, it's a tie between Heart and Vessel, if you ignore the indecisive voter, but it also seems that people who read Malal explanations jump from vessel to moonlight, so it could change
>>4971581
>>4971549
>>4971546
>>4971069
>>4971158
Malal, Just read my vote as
>Brand of Sacrifice/Daemonic Bounty
>Heart of Tender Moonlight
Sorry for making this nightmare of counting round even worse.
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>>4971688
Dear me, this is actually cancer.

I am so sorry Malal.
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>>4970773
>Brand of Sacrifice/Daemonic Bounty
>Heart of Tender Moonlight
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>>4971688
Sucks that I burned the "I don't know what the fuck is going on" image on a meme. Cuz that's some wack shit.
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>>4971688
Hell yeah I like the Brand curse, and I don't really care for which boon we pick. They're all equally good.
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>Discordant Essence
>Heart of Tender Moonlight
+1

Because what happens when you have Yin/Yang (INFINITE POWWAHH!)+ DIscord(Things are unbalanced)

You get infinite chaos.
And this is the only way we'll get to break the setting. 40k is awesome in that the setting is so dramatic and crazy that you'll never find anything that can't be subject to rule of awesome and rule of cool

But what if we do? What if we become the biggest disharmony that exponentially becomes greater by it's very nature.

I want to find out.
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>>4970826 devil horns
>>4970864
>>4970902 (changed to guts)
>>4970892 (maybe)
>>4971098
>>4971370
>>4971489
>>4971499
>>4971555
7-maybe 8

>>4971142
>>4971158
>>4971253 maybe? Not really clear, what a fag
>>4971264
>>4971280
>>4971385
>>4971424
>>4971588
>>4971591
>>4971643
>>4971688 (was already counted)
>>4971700
10-maybe 11
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>>4970773
So last switch

>brand of sacrifice
And
>Heart of Tender Moonlight.
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>>4971142
Down with that.
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>>4970786
>>4970812 (switched to guts)
>>4970825 (switched to devils horns)
>>4970829
>>4970839 (switched to liars eye)
>>4970846
>>4970859
>>4970912 (switched to liars eye)
>>4970916
>>4971206
>>4971287
>>4971469 (who fucking knows, fuck this vote)
>>4971730
8 +maybe that guy but fuck him

>>4970836 liars eye
>>4971084
>>4971460
>>4971468
>>4971590
>>4971637
6

>>4970843 times burden
>>4971484
>>4971488 (probably not even a vote)
>>4971521
3

>>4970908
>>4970991
>>4971069 (changed to guts)

>>4970787 the old sphinx

>>4971581 ultrasmurfs would be proud (or not,fuck the smurfs)

>>4971759 (please link previous post)
>>4971769
+2 to guts brand

Alright, now onto the fucking boons
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I should specify I'm down with either the Heart or the Vessel boon, but I'd prefer the Heart.
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So when Lieren eventually recovers, how will we apologize to his brother, his biological dad, his wife Kanzeon, and all his involved friends? We did inadvertently revive a fifth chaos god so I'd imagine he's going to get his ear yelled off from dad and his uncle Malcador. There will also be the need to explain the Brand to dad. God he's gonna get double downed on that grounding for getting a tattoo without his permission.

Also, the weird warp rock on the tree staff. We need to as Guozhi about where he got that, so we can eventually contact that Eldar and properly thank her.
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>>4971779
That reminds me. We need to research the warpstone.
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>>4971779
Obviously the best apology we can give is by getting to work on fixing our fuck-ups and making sure they never happen again.
How we do that though is up for debate.
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>>4971773
I'll fucking vote for 2 again.
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>>4971779
???
For what we didn t even know. We took all the cautions of the case, we didn t know what it would have actually done.
If Lieren actually knew before hand a god would have fully return from slumber with what he did, he wouldn t go for it.
The fact that the fight attracted so many was something that would have happen regardless.

We have other stuff to do when we get home. So goodbye and thanks, it s the answer. Luckly Guozhi was able to repel the demon that arrived in Shangrila when we instead arrived in the deep hell of Malal. Otherwise he wouldn t have been able to throw that stuff.
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>>4971779
In order.
Sorry about all this, I slipped up despite my cautions.

Sorry about all this, I was developing anti-god intelligence and then this happened.

I'm sorry love, deeply and truly. I think I'll stay with you until I recover

>rest of them "Hey guys, guess who's back and mostly dead!"
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>>4971774
Oh great, now we have two indecisive voters instead of one.
Good, this cover my miscount when I thought that this commentary>>4971464
was a vote, 433U5B9l was the only one before, sorry mSXN3oX4, you are based


Anyway, I recounted, here's a new one, it has one option counting the votes I'm sure of, one counting indecisive anons, and one counting similar write-ins.
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>>4971795
Can you be more specific?

>>4971813
RIP I feel for you counter anon.
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>>4971588
Support
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>>4970786 Heart of moon waifu (lieren loves space goddess milfs)
>>4970839(changed to glare)
>>4971084
>>4971206
>>4971287
>>4971469 (fuck this vote, again)
>>4971484
>>4971513
>>4971521
>>4971546
>>4971555
>>4971569
>>4971588
>>4971591
>>4971637
>>4971688
>>4971700
>>4971730
>>4971759
17

>>4970812 vessel
>>4970829
>>4970843
>>4970859
>>4970892
>>4970902 (changed to moon)
>>4970908
>>4970991
>>4971069 (changed to moon)
>>4971098 (changed to soul ref)
>>4971142
>>4971264 +1
>>4971280 +1
>>4971370 (changed to hate glare)
>>4971385 (changed to moon)
>>4971643 +1
>>4971769 +1
I feel like people who have +1mostly chose the curse, you still have until malal returns to choose your boon , 13 votes
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>>4971813
THERE CAN BE NO GOD, NO MASTER. TEAR IT DOWN.

Also, I'm just torn between the 4 of them. All are kinda fucking rad. I'll let Mal pick
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>>4971806
>>4971801
>>4971806
>Sorry about all this, I didn't know my truth vision was a mutation from a dead god, and that it was the missing ingredient to ressurect him by just gazing at his nature, something that I did while trying to discover what being infered with the other 4 daemons lords, and how to avoid his potential predations.
>Atleast I got another waifu out of it.
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Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>4971824
Dude I don't fucking know lol. I'm impartial to the boon. Is it still mostly a tie between the Vessel Opened and Moonlight? Here's what I'm gonna do.
1 for Vessel Opens
2 for Moonlight.

>>4971825
>Lieren is probably the most humble primarch of all his brother, almost aggressively so
>Will literally unfuck a hive city's shitter system bare handed if he needed too
>Won't give two shits if he has to literally swim through shit creek to unclog some pipes
>People start building temples of worship to him for all he's done
>Aggressively (but not GW tier retarded) telling people he's just a really strong human
>Worshipped by even some Eldari cuz he made it easier to raide Nurgle's garden for Isha's tears
>collective worship from some of humanity and some powerful eldari psykers make Lieren funny in the warp
>"F-father? I don't feel so good."
>The Emperor watches in abject horror as his son turns into a quasi-warp god.
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>>4970773
>>Heart of Tender Moonlight.
>brand
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>>4971838
That's why we need to write parables about a Journeyman into the Journey, that way part of divinity doesn't get shoved into Lieren.
Or not, and just expand the Trapped Goddess Harem (tm) and enjoy our promotion.
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>>4971824
Hey anon, some of those vessel voters changed their vote, but they didn't link it, or didn't greentext the change.
This is hell.
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>>4971838
>"F-father? I don't feel so good."
>The Emperor watches in abject horror as his son turns into a quasi-warp god.
>SON THERE ARE NO GODS
>"I..I know dad.."
>Quest end.
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>>4971824
Fine fine, twist my arm why don't you

>Heart of Tender Moonlight.
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>>4970825 Glare
>>4970836
>>4971453 (probably not a vote)
>>4971460
>>4971489
>>4971496
>>4971499
6

>>4970846 souls refine
>>4970916
>>4971458
>>4971469 reeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
>>4971481
>>4971488 almost missed this one, still not sure.
>>4971590
5 maybe 7

>>4970787
Both the boon and curse, points for creativity anon

>>4970826
BASED, REDPILLED, OBJECTIVELY THE BEST! I AM SURROUNDED BY THOSE WITH EYES THAT CANNOT SEE MOUNT TAI!

>>4970864
This guy mains mercy

>>4970912
...that's a pretty name

>>4971823
+1 guts and moon
>>4971841 same as above
>>4971871 +1 moon

>>4971851
They are heretics!
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>>4971882
What about the vessel posting votes?
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>>4971838
Just realized ypu are the Golden Sea guy.
I only cpubted yours as a potential one for Heart because it was about healing, and the Heart allows healing.
But I'm changing your vote to Vessel, as our lord Nuffle has decreed.
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>>4971838
>>4971884
Though I put you in before I moved onto new moons

+1 vessel
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>>4971773
>>4971759
>>4971424
>>4970812
Here you go
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Heart of Tender Moonlight.
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>Brand of Sacrifice/Daemonic Bounty
>Heart of Tender Moonlight

Hope I'm voting right this time.
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Here's my opinion on the Brand of Sacrifice.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBdnti4_UUg
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>>4972051
this is exactly what i thought too when people were suggesting this.
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Honestly Malal since this vote is such an absolute gods damned mess can we just redo it, now that people have the info on the mutation/rewards and won't be changing things, and most of the write ins are made?
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>>4971730
Well. . no mate, what you want to do is you go with discordant essence, and then you go with "soul fire, refined" for the biggest paradox.

Since the first is "bring conflict to the essence" and the second is "bring harmony to the paradox" so you'd get harmonious conflict.
I'm not voting for that, But if you are going to do something, do it rightly.
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>>4970773
>Brand of sacrifice
>Soul's fire, refined.
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>>4972079
It makes sense, not only did we release the Malal but also the god of order. And tzeentch is pissed about Magnus resisting him.
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>>4972084
Fuck no, several hours have been used to figure out what we want from this. Scrapping this would only make the process longer.
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>>4971882
We all appreciate you trying to count this painful vote anon.

I'm wondering what the odds are of moonlit heart balancing out the yin/yang of our gene seed allowing our legion to recruit women.
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>>4972157
is it really that bad of a curse if Lieren is going to be hunted down by daemons anyway?
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>>4972166
Yeah.

Wherebefore there was the fact he was a primarch that was both a warning to stay away but also the glory of corrupting them, now it's
"Kill him, or corrupt him and we shall shower you in rewards." with the added pain in the ass of weakening the veil around us.

So any halfbit with a desire for the favour of all four gods at once is going to bend their every effort to our destruction.
Do you know how rare it is for ONE THING to earn favour with every last one?
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I personally would go with soul refined of these 4 boons, it would probably make it easier to give a golden spark to our followers and keep it stable for them
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Lol, I was bitching about us getting a curse when really malal meant mutations, and now everyone decided to get an actual fucking curse
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>>4972164
Zero.
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>>4972200
Men often meet their destinies on routes they take to avoid it.
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>>4970773
>Brand of Sacrefice
>Hateful glare
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>>4972223
*sacrifice
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>>4970773
>Ogre's Mask
I feel like devil's horns are just a watered down version of this as I expect horns are part of the ogre deal, and alone feels like way to small of a mutation for the amount of warp fuckery going down.
>The Vessel opened
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>>4972084
Why on earth would you want this shitfest to go on for longer? I'd rather Malal just pick for us at this point.
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>>4972084
It's a nightmare, but it gets less bad once you get the hang of it. And all the complaining and samefagging (there's 45 votes, around 2/5 of them are one post IDs) that would happen if Malal made a redo would only make it worse,
>>4972164
Please no female space marines.
>>4972200
And i kept bitching how i hate the combat, and this is the option that will lead into more of it, yet I still chose it.

With new votes, comes a new count. There's still time for anons to change their mind.
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>>4972257
>>4971447
My Id changed, if that comes into it
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>>4972287
I doubt such a thing happened to 18 people though.
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>Kanzeon, Isha, Arianka

Any other space goddess milfs out there in the galaxy? Who else will be added to lierens harem of ancient superwoman?

A (wo)man of iron who resisted chaos and still cares deeply for humanity?

An old one who has taken a female humanoid form?

The galaxy is a large place and there are many more milfs to discover, take care young lieren.
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>>4972296
Remember that the milf goddess has to be imprisioned too.
Lieren is a very conservative hero, he only fucks the princesses that he has to save.
>>4972287
>>4972292
Many people phonepost, do it from work, or have a dynamic IP.
So let's say that's what happened, they voted or changed their vote and forgot to tell, best case scenario it's still around 10-3 samefags.
And contrary to what many QMs think, recounting or creating draconian rules only make the situation worse.
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>>4971142
+1
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>>4972313
>1
I don't believe for a second you are a new poster.
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>>4972318
My dude, I counting all those votes and I saw a lot of 1 post id's

I've also been in a lot of quest and seen how this works

There's only one way to beat a samefag without draconian rules of must have a minimum number of posts to be counted or some Google doc registry thing

Samefag better than them
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>>4972326
And those rules either don't work, or bring another type of shitshow that ruins the quest anyway.
But remember, don't go around trying to overescalate the conflict, or witchbunt samefags. If you are willing to ahoulder the dishonour and stoop down to their level, than just do what you think you need to do and stop.
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>>4972326
I sincerely doubt 136 poeple posted in this thread. Half that number is the most I'll believe in.
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>>4972350
That rounds about 6 post per person, kind of odd with all the discussion and complaining during the combat, although there's quite a few IDs that posted 2-3 posts, but than continued a conversation as a different one, so those are probably just people whose IP changes.
The real problem with samefaghunts is separating the innocent from the guilty. And most often the samefags are only 1 or 2 faggots, and the innocents around 10.
Atleast this isn't some meme vote that would ruin everything like what happened in those black company and sworn to valor quest. Although I still believe that the paranoia and autism ended up hurting more than the samefagging itself.
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>>4972350
>>4972381
whats going on?
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>>4972397
Just that's a lot of 1 ID posts for this vote, so there's risk of samefagging.
But it's alright, it's just extra spice to the convoluted mess it was, worrying and discounting them it's not worth it (although I may only be feeling that way because the one I wanted is winning)
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>>4972381
I suspect there are some lurkers in the thread, but also some parts same posters. We cant discount all 1 post id's.
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>>4972417
Fuck, I completly forgot about lurkers who only vote in contemptious decisions, even though I was one of them before, and why I have a dislike for those two queats I mentioned.
Another reason why cracking down on samefagging hurts more than it helps.
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>>4972424
Contested, not contemptious.
Is that even a word?
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>>4972427
showing contempt; scornful.

Spelled wrong
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>>4972296
Morai-Heg is a GILF and Lileath is just an ILF. But they're deep within the bowels of Slaanesh so unless we go from Imperial China to Bronze-Age Greece really quickly, there's not a lot of ways to get to them. Gea might be somewhere nearby as she was last mentioned in 1st Edition and is the consort of both Asuryan and Khaine.

Leaving Eldar, I'm sure that some of the Sensei are hot. And there are female Necrons, if that's your thing. And Kanzeon has at least three at most seven sisters.
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>>4972452
>sensei

Anon no, don't fuck your sister
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>>4972452
Ever since what GW did with thenon-canon End Times, I can only feel hatred for Lileath.
Leave her there to rot.
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>>4972479
With all the genetic warpfuckery that Emps did creating us, I doubt there's we have enough in common gene-wise with any given sensei to register as second cousins, let alone siblings.
>>4972481
Why would you hate her for actions that never occured?
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QM pls, close the vote, I can already feel the changer of ways bleeding through into my phone.
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>>4972520
Malal is most likely locked in a titanic battle with his service provider. Either that or deep in prayer.
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>>4972528
His Machine Spirits are rebelling, a simple trick! They were actually corrupt Men of Iron all along?

Speaking of, whatever happened to the Men of Stone and Men of Gold?
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>>4972533
They are in the other quest
The men of gold were the guys the Emperor was using to guide mankind during the golden age, and the men of stone were some kind of man-machine hybrid.
So they are most probably gone, insane or hiding.
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>>4972533
Men of stone were most likely just plain robots made to terraform before humans arrived on a planet

Men of gold were nier automata type machines that were basically indistinguishable from humans, 1 might even be hidden among the population of our planet even now
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>>4972533
gw never expanded there.

In quest Kazeon is of a very new generation, we know her travel, the colonization and her sister ships / AI as well the story of the people she brought with her here. With how close she has grow to Lieren they probably know everything about eachother by now.
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>>4972533
>Speaking of, whatever happened to the Men of Stone and Men of Gold?
Most likely destroyed, but probably not utterly. As for what they are specifically, nobody knows and GW won't tell us. Bit of a blessing there, because any given fan theory is better than what they'd make canon.
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>>4972558
That's what I tought too, but after looking over a few wikis and sources, it's morr likely that the man of gold were genetically enginereed/changed ubersmench, givung that they appeared while humanity was still on earth,and were considered to be humans.
Meanwhile the men of stone amd iron were specifically called to be artificial beings, with the former being resistant ro the warp, were in a half-life state and some of tge survivors of the age of strife hid in their ships.
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>>4972568
You think the Men of Stone were the first pariahs? I've read a few different in-universe sources that hypothesize that the Pariah gene (or series of genes according to some) are artificial. Wonder if the cloning facilities in Kanzeon's primary body could make Men of Gold or Stone...
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>>4972593
There's a lot of theories about where pariahs came from,most popular ones are necrons did it and pariahs are basically psykers evolving backwards.
Since psykers are apparently the next step in human evolution
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>>4972557
>>4972558
>>4972562
Who is right, Who is wrong? While true that GW never gave a specific answer there's only one logical choice...

Me, because I'm based
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>>4972606
But are you based enough? There's always a bigger fish.
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>>4972528
you mean COMSTAR is trying to breach realities?
OH FOR FUCKS SAKE
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>>4970773
>Discordant Essence
>Heart of Tender Moonlight.
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>>4972558
Wrong on both accounts

Men of stone were artificially created synthetic hybrid organic humans able to navigate the warp safely due to an engineered "soul" that didnt attract warp nasties. They were also builders and labourers of the human star empires in the golden age.

Men of gold were genetically engineered perfected humans, and hinted at all being extremely powerful psykers, they were the guiding hand behind humanity, w0rking with Big E in the shadows shaping humanities destiny in the galaxy, they made the men of iron, they were the artisans of humanities tapestries.

The men of gold disappeared when the golden age started ending, and the men of stone all died off in the dark age of technology during the machine wars.
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>>4972606
GWs authors have given specific answers to who and what they were.
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>>4972698
>they made the men of iron
Men of stone* derp
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>>4972698
Weren't the men of iron made by the men of stone? Tge men of gold probably oversaw or aproved their creation though
And I think that the men of stone were more explorers and frontiermen than just builders.
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>>4972711
Oh nevermind, it was just a mistype.
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>>4972715
The sleep deprivation demons come for me
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>>4972533
You forgot men of Iron
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>>4972756
We kinda know what happened to them though. There's next-to-nothing on the Men of Gold and Men of Stone.
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>>4972759
what happened to the men of Iron though?
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>>4972812
They AI rebelled and humanity did a butlerian jihad.
So now they are dead, hiding or had part of their componed stripped and turned into imperial robots for the cybernetic legions.
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>>4972812
Destroyed by an alliance of galactic powers in a war that make the Xenocides and the Heresy put together look like a mild brunchtime disagreement. They were destroyed nearly to a man, even the loyal ones were purged. Didn't get them all though.
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>>4972816
Shit, forgot the Dark Angels have a bunch of lombotomized ones locked in their basement.
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>>4972824
And If I remeber right, it was the emperor that personaly did that.
Main reason why we really need to hide our waifu or prove she has an incorruptable soul, maybe be ready to put her into flesh if that doesn't work.
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>>4972851
Yeah, he did, didn't he? We're gonna have to keep her and all 3-7 of her sisters on the downlow. Maybe we could pass them off as just the interface for the ship? Like VIs from Mass Effect. I don't think he'll be to inclined to offer us favors after this whole debacle, so just asking him to trust us is probably off the table.
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>>4972820
>>4972812
>Forgetting about the fact some worlds ahve them stuck in stists not outright destoryed.
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>>4972867
There's a reason some of the heaviest and most powerful robots of the Legio Cybernetica don't have STCs or are irreplacable, because they straight up are slaved Men of Iron.
If you manage to find a manufactury capable of producing them and activate it, than it's Age of Strife 2: eletric bogaloo
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>>4972867
Pretty sure you're reading a homebrew wiki. Can't find any other source for that.
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>>4972866
I don't know anon ,kanzeon might be the only one not corrupted and we gotta put her sisters down like dogs, kanzeon might get corrupted herself in the future and need to be put down.

If it does happen it'll probably involve the jealous streek she's been having lately
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>>4972883
I haven't noticed a jealous streak, just that she's concerned for us. Which is understandable, as we're somewhere deep in the warp with five chaos gods. As for the potential for corruption, perhaps they are. But we don't have evidence of such things yet. If the Vishnu's technology is being produced straight from the Khorne sister and not from some ancient factory that they've uncovered, she's just as likely being forced to do it as she is to be corrupted.
I have an theory without much evidence that each Sister embodies the good traits of a Chaos God. Khorne sister is honorable and just, Tzeentch sister is hopeful and wise, etc. Kanzeon, as the Slaanesh one, is loving and compassionate. Themeatically, having a the nations of Shangrala embodying the bad aspects (until we get our hands on them) and the things that put the people there being the good is fitting and exactly the kind of thing I can see Malal doing.
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>>4972892
Doesn't necessarily mean envy anon.
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>>4972892
When Kanzeon sister boruced Lieren's battle with Kamal Khan, she said to the gaint sonething about your lord, meaning that she deosn't consider khorne her patron. There is a chance she feels indebted ro the mn who fred her, is vengeful against humanity and is just using him, is insane and that was the reason she was locked up or straight up doesn't give a shit what happens.
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>>4972906
Holy shit I mangled the word noticed.
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>>4972881
I think it was in either one of the White dwarf books or like a Comic. in hindsight can't remember if said comic was canon.

>>4972880
I'd like a cition on this.
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>>4972923
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Excindio
Depends if you consider them part of the Legio Cybernetica or the Drak Angels, there's argument for both.
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>>4972905
That's my point. I don't think she's envious.
>>4972906
>There is a chance she feels indebted ro the mn who fred her
I think that's likely, if by some way the ships are representative of the good parts of the gods.
>or straight up doesn't give a shit what happens.
I think this is more the case. Kanzeon sat on top of a tzeentchian sorcerer for years and didn't go insane.
>>4972911
Happens to the best of us. I start typing one thing, then change my mind and don't delete all of my previous thought.
>>4972923
You might be thinking of the STC Gaunt found, but I forget if he found actual MoI along with it. Been a while since I've read that book.
https://wh40khomebrew.fandom.com/wiki/Arkists
That's what I thought you were referencing.
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>>4972938
Oh thats from the 30k books, thats why wild.

>>4972940
Maybe it was Fan canon, I think it was called Pax Imperialis?
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>>4972945
https://www.doctors-of-doom.com/vault/pax-imperialis
Maybe this?
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>>4972946
Nah, Check out Imagines in the google search. its an actual Comic. Not a suppliment for Wrath and glory.
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Calling the vote now.

Liar's eye: 6

Ogre's Mask: 4

Time's Burden: 4

Discordant Essence:9

Devil's horns: 7

Crown of the forgotten and never was king: 1

Brand of sacrifice:17

Mark of sorcery: 1

Winner: Brand of sacrifice
https://youtu.be/w3bWR_aLlas
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Heart of tender moonlight:23

Soul's fire, refined: 7

The vessel opened: 12

The Gentle Giant's Hateful glare: 7

Golden sea's warming embrace.:1

Great Selfless Teacher:1

The Never ending High Heaven star of order and Prosperity: 1

Eternal cycle of age:1

Winner: Heart of Tender Moonlight.
https://youtu.be/6Yb0jJ5kiIQ

Total votes: 50, Blowing the old record so far out of the water it made Istvaan 3 look like a fucking joke

Writing now.

The brand and Heart of Tender moonlight won.

>>4971882
>>4972282
Thanks for counting, made it so I didn't have to recount to be sure and made my job easier. I did my own count to be positive of the count though
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>>4972955
No problem Malal, I felt like I needed to redeem myself someway after helping make the vote a clusterfuck.
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>>4972955
>Die by the blade of the one you hate, end of reason, end of the game.

Are you giving us suggestions Malal.
Because god damn, I think Lieren would gladly give his life driving a spear into the heart of the gods.
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>>4972959
it is the equivalent of Meros Steeping into the Ragefire
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>>4972955
So if he's getting more Yin would that balance out his Yang qi enough to change his element to Earth?
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>>4972955
What is the brand of sacrifice do again?
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>>4972977
Read >>4971142
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>>4972973
Yang and Yin exist on a different system of elements than the Wuxing, just like the confucian elements, even if they ibteract in a syncretic belief way.
Unless you are talking abou the elements of Man, Earth and Heaven, in which case I have no idea why it would change Lieren from Man to Earth instead of Heaven, given it's an actual piece of a diety that's in him now.
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>>4972979
awesome.
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>>4972993
In wuxing Yin and Yang are present in all of the elements in varying quantities.
>Earth is Yin and Yang in balance.
>Metal is rising Yin.
>Water is pure Yin
>Wood is rising Yang
>Fire is pure Yang
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>>4973002
That's the syncretism part I think. Anyway, since we never found out what element we were, I think this change is more liable for us to be some balancing act of all of them, but if we do change, than we can't be certain it was because of this.
The important question is if it will make Lieren look more feminine. We might have to let the beard grow to avoid being the femboy prinarch.
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>>4973013
>We might have to let the beard grow to avoid being the femboy primarch
I'd hate to steal Fulgrim's thunder, after all.
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>>4973013
No

That's fulgrim, we can't even claim to be the handsome one because that's horus and konrad if he ever took a shower
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>>4973017
>we can't even claim to be the handsome one because that's horus and konrad if he ever took a shower
>forgetting Sanguinius
There is no greater sin, anon.
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>>4973017
Forgot about our glorious golden hawk brother von-jesus

Also why would having yang energy make us feminine?

I understand that the energy has symbolism but it's got a lot more to do with the world and spiritual stuff than gender
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>>4973023
Calling Sanguinius handsome is the epitome of an understatement.
I imagine Corvus Corax also cleans up quite nicely.
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>>4973013
>since we never found out what element we were,
So you didn't pay attention when it was mentioned.
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>>4973026
Yin energy is "feminine" anon but it won't affect much I agree.
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>>4973023
>>4973016
What was in the Emperors gene that pumps out long white haired primarchs.
>>4973028
The only thing I remember was something about the place we went to mediate being closer to wood, but Lieren saying that it wasn't close enough.
If you have tge answer say it instead of being a smug faggot.
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>>4973027
All of our brothers probably do.
I forget which book exactly, but one of the farmers on Barbarus thought that Mortarion was one of the most beautiful things he'd ever seen when he first laid eyes on him. If Angron wasn't a walking mass of anger and scar tissue, he'd probably be hot too.
>>4973033
>What was in the Emperors gene that pumps out long white haired primarchs.
One of the Shamans might've had prematurely white hair. Could be from them.
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>>4973033
It's Wood that's dominant but he has a solid connection to all the elements.
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>>4973036
Than it was probably the same updated I was remembering.
Lieren's observation for me felt more like he has a connection to all of them, but it changes a bit to match the place he is in.
Unless tgere was sonething new during the fight, I kind of skimmed thorugh them.
Thank you for the cooperation.
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If anyone knows how to use those ai things

We should add lieren to this lineup
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>>4973045
I just had an idea for a curse.
>A Thousand Tormenting Souls
Lieren will hear us shitposting all the time.
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>>4973050
Forgot link
https://youtu.be/ojpMsudaT1c

Also
>magnus when he tells space chickens to go fuck themselves because they hurt his brother
https://youtube.com/shorts/J2MWkb7eLOw?feature=share
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>>4973058
Might be the happiest looking Pert I've ever seen.
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>>4973058
>>4973050
It seems that this Wombo thing is for mobile only.
Guess I will hand over my soul to the chinese for a meme.
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A brand cut into your skin, exposing the tender flesh beneath, shines crimson in the direct center of your forehead. A single drop of blood pools at the end of the final cut of the many that form the marking, which is made of up of eight lines in its totality. Though only five of the cuts bleed. It is not shaped in the mark of the abhorrent and wicked, nor is it the mark of either of the five who claim dominion over that foulest of forces. It is unique in shape, though simple in design. A crescent, formed of eight arrows pointed at the location of your "third eye". Only five of these arrows are tipped, the remaining three are nothing more than cut lines standing beside the rest. And you know the meaning, the five active lords of hell have placed this mark here, to show not only their contempt and disgust towards you, but to alert their followers and servants of the bounty to be won by taking your head.

Like branding a thief or murder so all may know of their crimes and avoid or punish them as they see fit. Justice in its most Barbaric form, as dictated by the mob. A line of blood drips down the bridge of your nose as you consider the scar, and find no shame in bearing it. If they are so threatened, so scorned by your unwavering convictions and beliefs then let their demonic hunters, wicked slaves and ambitious warriors come as a legion against you. They are a wave you will weather and break. However if the brand was only a mark signifying you as the quarry of those who desire favor and power, it would be of no concern to you. However, the form of the mark is what makes it worthy of your worry. It's an arcane sigil, drawn upon exact ritualistic likes and geometric angles. It is a sorcerous wound, a talismans of sort. Like the Null Denouncement Charm, but its effect is the exact opposite of that warding script.

Rather than strengthening the veil and warding against the energies of the Empyrean and its inhabitants, this mark weakens the walls between the worlds of the living and dead. As the concentrated ire and pique of the five self named gods is drawn to the brand, and thus break the boundary between the realms of the material and immaterial. Its a conduit for the spirits, devils and mortal slaves who will seek to end your life and gain the glory and renown of slaying he who stood before their gods and denounced them even as he stood on the verge of death. If any hear tell of this day, it will surely be immortalized as a story that will endure the ages. Perhaps the playwright Pan An would be interested to hear the tale of the brothers defiance against anarchy and discord, his flair for the dramatized and exaggerated would surely be benefit the retelling of this darkest day's happenings.

You chuckle ruefully, rage incensed by the marring of your features and the challenge presented to you by the five lords of hell's call for your execution.
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"Let them come" You snarl, fading in and out of consciousness as you watch Arianka continue to struggle to break her chains or slip free from their bondage "This but another obstacle I shall surmount, another challenge to conquer and overcome. Let them come to make their graves before me. Let them come to meet their death"

Arianka sighed and smiled as if she remembered a fond memory.

"Your resolve and defiance remind me of those who...I can scarcely remember. The valiant defenders of fields of snow and ice" She whispers "Their names, their faces, all have faded from my memory. All that remains is a fragment of the courage they possessed. I could think of no other people who most reflect your values, oh child of the fog"

She turns away from the further bars of her cage and approaches you again as you slump to the floor, hearing the beating of great wings and the thunderous crashing of hooves running in retreat. The crackling of fire and electricity sounds like the cry of cracking ice. Arianka looks into your eyes, and bows her head.

"May you endure, as the men of the snow and frost did" She whispers "For your cause is as righteous as that which they fought and died for upon a world both lost and forgotten to me"

A giggle like the brush of snow bearing winds, pulls you from away from sleep's sweet embrace once more.

"It would seem, oh knight of the golden sea, that you've taken a part of me as I've taken a part of you" She laughed, the sound of joy springing like a lotus' blossom from the mire of tragedy and agonies unimaginable, more rejuvenating that any balm or elixir. Only Kanzeon's own sweet laughter was more comforting than the voice of the gentle moonlight.

"Curious, that should be impossible, but I suppose a force of will as potent as your own cares little for what cannot be done, when they have chosen a path to follow" She praises, turning away again, looking towards your forlornly "I cannot repay the sacrifice you've given to me, but I cannot linger and shower you with accolades and praises. Until we meet again, Lieren of Nothing"

And with that, the vision of the trapped force of order faded, and you were left staring into a fog of frost and ice. You fell backwards, blinking rapidly as your head swam. Everything began to blur together and become confusing. In the turmoil of your fevered mind, a single thought rose from the storm of mental discord to bring a single lonesome realization to your attention.

Your eyes were silver briefly, when you looked into the maiden of snow's eyes.

"How curious" You mumbled as you closed your eyes and dreamt of the serenity of nothingness and the calm of the void.
_

Guozhi sighed, and collapsed into the arms of Bohai and Peizhi. He had expended all of his energy to lend Lieren momentary assistant in his battle against the forces of true malevolence. Kuan Im sat besides him, crying tears of blood from her blind eyes, holding her hands and muttering of dread visions and waking nightmares
Cont
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>>4973119
Cai sat serenely, with a self satisfied smirk on his lips. The former occultist must've felt their near deadly encounter with the five lords of hell had in someway validated his old beliefs.

The old scholar stood on his own powers, his staff burnt to nothing more than a charred husk that wept ashes and burning embers. The strange charms he had been given, as he searched for his student turned teacher, had been drained by some abhorrent means, their melodic essences sucked clean like the juices from a ripe peach. Guozhi swallowed, as the storm of discordant energies and malevolent Qi passed, And he beheld Lieren sitting in the Lotus position, head bowed.

His heart refused to beat, until he saw the grandmaster's chest rise with new breath. Blood dripped from his forehead, but he was intact and alive, and more importantly spiritually whole.

Guozhi watched the Twin Exorcists tend to the weeping Kuan im, before his thoughts turned to two mysteries. The odd spirit he had met in the Emperyan as he searched for Lieren's soul. The blind maiden, who wore a shawl of spun gold wire. She was knowledgeable, and powerful and lead Guozhi and his fellows in aiding Lieren's desperate defense. But she was not by his side, though he could feel traces of her presence. Was she even a spirit? Or some queer form of mortal life? Guozhi frowned, and sat down to ponder this mystery until Lieren awoke and returned to them in full.

That was, until he noticed the giant's soul had changed. It was no longer pure fire, the golden sea of his essence had become cast in a tender moonlight. A feminine essence coexisting with his natural masculine energy. Silver winds flowing besides golden flames.

Cool Water mingling with the raging fire of Lieren's will. Ice formed in the heart of the blaze.

Guozhi eyes widened! He had heard of this before, but did not believe it possible to achieve with resorting to atrocity.

"Incredible!" He marveled, as his fellow Core disciple licked their wounds and tried to comprehend the journey that just undergone together
-

Kanzeon marched past the gathered monks and so called Cultivators. The wards surrounding her beloved's still form had already failed and flickered away before she had approached. Anger, worry and regret rushed through the wiring of her mind, filling her with emotions that from her understanding had no buisness being experiened at once. She was confused, and lost. But Lieren was alright, injured and requiring medical attention. She wanted to hit him, to yell at him, she wanted to cry in his chest, to sing him a lullaby as he slept. She wished she could've protected him. But she did none of these things, and simply sat beside him, silent in the connection her mind held to his armor as she had recorded the arrival of an energy signature similar to her beloved scholars own, but much more powerful.
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Silence was the only option she could consider, speaking or revealing herself by her calculations would only endanger herself and threaten her continued existence. So she chose to comfort and guard Lieren physically.

"You brave fool" she muttered, brushing iron hued hair from his eyes, admiring the calm of his sleeping expression, as she ignored the unpleasant sensation of cold sweat and boiling blood upon her finger tips "Perhaps the only way I can be certain of your safety is by chaining your wrist to mine"

She kicked her vessel's legs out and rested her head on Lieren's still shoulder.

"But a joke isn't worth devoting any of my processing capability towards" Kanzeon sighed "not when you're hurt, and beyond my reach"
_

Farseer Carys lay on the cold ground, tasting bile upon her tongue and feeling drool pool around the base of her neck. She rose, fumbling for her blindfold as she cackled victoriously. Beneath the radiance of the Journeyman's fire, she had stood before she who thirst and survived the encounter. She had helped he who had shown her the true path to subjugate the dark and all its inhabitants and.

She touched Eldrad's leg

"Carys" The elder farseer spoke, his tone disappointed, infuriated and shaming "What have you done?"

"What I must" Carys answered without a moments hesitation

"You gambled your soul, by fortune alone you remain whole" Eldrad scolded, sighing as his rage calmed and washed away "That kind of foolhardiness is unbefitting of a farseer and"

"You've seen him to. You know why I do what I do, even if you do not believe as I do" Carys hissed as she took her blindfold from Eldrad's hands.

Eldrad turned away and nodded

"The eightfold path denounced and turned inward" He whispered "it is a pleasant hope, but I cannot envision the fate of that child through divination or foresight"

Carys had begun to ignore eldrad's lecture, and busied herself scrawling symbols in the wraithbone charms. Symbols which she learned from her dreams, script and geometric code
-

You awoke, upon the Astral plane. Magnus sat beside you, wearing bandages upon his arms and chests. He had been watching over your spirit as you rested. His eyes lit up as you returned to consciousness and

He shocked you by hugging your avatar tightly enough, that the emotions he felt were relayed to the material world and you could feel his crushing grip around your back and the warmth of his arms around you despite the distance between your bodies

Neither of you said anything, you returned his affection openly, and began to cry. His tears soon joined your own as the two of you wordlessly held each other

"Brother" He said finally and haltingly "I know it is not my place to, but I would offer an apology for doubting you and ignoring your warnings. Evil is quantifiable, and there are forces in the great sea who mean only to bring harm to mankind. It was exactly as you said, Lieren. And I was too conceited and sure of my understanding of the warp to listen"
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>>4973128

"He's awake?" A voice familiar yet unknown resonates through the sanctuary in the Empyrean "Is he...well?"

What do you do, Lieren?

>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.

>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.

>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.

>Tell your father you are not ready to meet him, and ask if you can speak with your brother in private.

>Write in
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>>4973130
>>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
The identity of the Three Inactive Gods is gonna bug me until we bring them into being, I swear. I can only think of two.
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>>4973130
>>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
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>>4973130
>>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.

All 3 work.

Also man I loved this doot, but my favorite part had to be Lieren telling the number lords of hell to come at him and die. Metal as fuck mate.
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>>4973130
>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>And I must apologise, it seems that in my haste to try to catalogue and prepare against a potential wicked enemy, I accidentaly brought him into reality once more. The only one that should apologise is me, for not following my own warning, even if I had no way of knowing the trap laid before my path.
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>>4973145
Forgot this
>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
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>>4973137
I'll second this. Also, is the mark we got like the stress symbol from Darkest Dungeon? Or, well, the bleeding part. 'cause it seems remarkably apt, all things considered.
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>>4973130
>Thank magnus for coming to our aid and tell him of trapped hope
>We hold no grudge, he simply had no way of knowing but our words.
>Answer father ourselves

>Apologise to both for unleashing Chun Qiang, despite doing our level best to be cautious and minimise risk, this doesn't change the damage done.
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>>4973130
>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.

>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.

>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
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>>4973152
Shit, it's pretty close. That's great.
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>>4973130
>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge
>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter
>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
Ah, the calm before the storm.
I can only imagine what happened back home.
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I'm not voting yet, but are we sure that this is the right time to meet the emperor?
From a story point of view the best time to meet is during the unification wars, and lieren is feeling shame right now for what he's unleashed

A possible answer to the emperor could be "I am too ashamed of what I have done here today father, let me redeem myself before we meet for the first time, let me free my world from their hated taint before I meet the man who sired me "

Just a thought, want to make sure that people aren't just jumping at meeting pops cuz he's here
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>>4973134
is one of them the great horned rat?

>>4973130
>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
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>>4973163
It's not like he is going to trailblaze to Shangrala to get us, it took him time to get Magnus even if he talked.
That's why my vote is to appologize to him, that write-in is for both him and Magnus.
It's better for the Emps to know that we didn't unleash Malal because we are a workshiper, but because we are an inquisitor that stared at the abyss and it stared back
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>>4973166
I was thinking one might be the Great Horned Rat and one might be Hashut. But I can't find a third evil chaos god on par with them. There's the Great Gatherer and Morghur, but neither have the notoriety the other two do. Maybe the other three are the gods of order? Arianka isn't active per se, as she's still trying to escape... Or maybe Malal is gonna make Mo'rcck, Ans'l and Phraz-etar, the walking in-jokes canon.
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>>4973176
It's obviously Nuffle, and his workshippers, the Norfs.
He is in a legal battle with Malal for the number 11.
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>>4973130
>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.

>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.

>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.

>I am awake and I...am ashamed!

I wanted to ease our relationship and see if he's worthy of being called our father or merely being our progenitor, but after what he just did he atleast deserves to be called dad and has our respect, if not yet love...hopefully someday
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>>4973177
>>4973176
>>4973166
>>4973142
Might be the Great Beast.
https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Great_Beast
Malal was the best Chaos God to awaken compared to his siblings inspite of how dangerous he is.
>>4973130
>>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
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>>4973180
He may Lieren's father, but he ain't his daddy. At least not yet.
That much I think we can all agree on.
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>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.

>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.

>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.

>I am awake and I...am ashamed!
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>>4973176
One of them is called Matt ward and he screws over anyone who isn't a smurf marine or a necron pokemaster

Also, does anyone know who the people arianka was talking about are? Is it a reference to something in the lore,?
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>>4973187
I don't agree with you.
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>>4973177
>Listen 'ere yo pansy monk
>'ate da Journey
>'ate da Big Four
>'ate Malal, stole me mate's numbah
>'ate da Long Jia, Vishnu, and Shunni, not raycist jus don loik 'em
>'ate Lieren, Son ov da Anathema
>Luv me futboll
>Luv me ale
>Luv me a cuppa
>Luv me Bask, dey're alroight
>Luv Nuffle
>Simple as
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>>4973130
>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
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>>4973185
>>4973185
The Great Beast is Chaos Undivided. If each point on the 8 pointed star is a god and the star as a whole symbolizes Chaos, I'm not sure why the Great Beast would have one. But it's Chaos, so who knows?
>>4973190
She was talking about the Kingdom of Kislev from the Old World. God, if she can't remember them, does that mean the End Times happened in the Malalverse? Fuck.
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>>4973191
You've made an enemy for life. Prepare yourself accordingly.
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Adding
>>I am awake and I...am ashamed!
To >>4973134
Big fan of this update, Malal, btw.
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>>4973199
Fuck the end times.
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>>4973208
praise be malal and his hatred for the ending of days
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>>4973160
>I am awake and I...am ashamed!
Adding this, it's too good
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>>4973199
But Malal is basically anti-chaos undivided and he has a line, so the Great Beast might have one too.
Or it could be the god of the ogres, The Great Maw? Although the 40k version it might just the tyranid hivemind, the Devourer.
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>>4973219
>inb4 it's Gork and Mork
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>>4973208
Based out of this dimension, and the next one too.
>>4973220
Seems to be a chaos only club
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>>4973223
I was joking, anon.
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>>4973220
Inb4 one of the 3 incomplete lines on our forehead starts bleeding when we meet the emperor's gaze
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>>4973220
Alright, that brings up the question.
Is Lieren brutally cunning or cunningly brutal?
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>>4973227
>"I am not a god, my son"
>"My forehead says otherwise, father. Call off your hit on me."
>>4973228
Brutally kunnin' most likely. Or was it the other way around?
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>>4973228
Lieren is th3 goodest and the toughest, now quit yapping ya git we got a Galaxy 'ull of xenos, 'eretics and muties to krump.
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>>4973130


>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.

>>4973240
> inb4 a Black Ork Warboss loves fighting Lieren and his boyz so much he keeps killing daemons and chaos pricks that try to murder the madlad
> "OI! FUCKKNUCKLE! Only one wot get's ta kill Shiny Eyez 'z ME!!"
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>>4973233
>Son don't make me kill you.
>Whatever you say ''God''
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>>4973251
>The War of the Beast is 6 The Beast tier Orks beating the shit out of him.
>Its his Chaos trial all over again
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>>4973253
>"Malcador, tell him I'm not a god"
>"He's not a god. Just an immortal psychic gestalt of ancient terran shamans who stole power directly from the Chaos Gods and became the embodyment of mankind and their will.
>"I'm going to detonate that bomb collar, Malcador.
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So I managed to make the video, but I forgot that audio webms are not allowed.
How the fuck do I share the meme?
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>>4973265
Upload it to Youtube, then send the link. Make it unlisted, if you want.
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>>4973265
Host it somewhere and then link it. It's what I did for this one.
https://streamable.com/nedlat
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>>4973268
That's a better option than doxxing my meme account.

https://streamable.com/gp4dxg
Lieren explaining the shitshow to his dad.
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>>4973274
Actually, here's the other songs that I tried too.
Choose your favorite
https://streamable.com/li9kri
https://streamable.com/7utv91
https://streamable.com/m0b5ha
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>>4973274
Absolutely glorious anon

How about something with this lieren, if you’re up for it
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>>4973282
I tried all the three Lierens, but only that forward facing one didn't get monstrously deformed.
Although it was a bit funny how it ended up, there were new eyes, mouths, and the topknot became a separate entity orbiting Lieren's head depending on the song.
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>>4973130
>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
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>>4973285
Fuck it, I know what I'm commissioning next!
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>>4973188
Support
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>>4973124
>Cool Water mingling with the raging fire of Lieren's will. Ice formed in the heart of the blaze.
>Guozhi eyes widened! He had heard of this before, but did not believe it possible to achieve with resorting to atrocity.
So I've been interested in what people plan to do with the Yin qi in Lieren's soul.
>>4973128
> Carys had begun to ignore eldrad's lecture, and busied herself scrawling symbols in the wraithbone charms. Symbols which she learned from her dreams, script and geometric code
I also find this interesting since it implies we can learn something unique from the Farseer.
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>>4973130
>>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.


TO ANGRON WE MUST GO
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>>4973432
I'm wondering if us, plus Magnus can't do something about the nails, or at the very least we can get Big E on the horn and point out that having a rage button permanently pressed to the on position is not a good thing to have when you've got a god of rage on your family shitlist.

Also if we can prevent his friends from dying that'd also help.
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So Malal, would the brand look something like this, or does the cuts go on deeper; the tips are more or less pronounced; the tipped cuts are on different order; etc?
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>>4973448
I imagine it would be more symmetrical.

>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.

>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
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>>4973471
>>4973130
forgot to link back
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>>4973448
Thats honestly hilarious and i love it.
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>>4973448
Honestly I'm starting to look at it like a tally board or an achivement screen.

Until we get all eight arrows going "For the love of me will somebody KILL THIS ASSHOLE" I don't feel complete.

Hell at that point all Big E would have to do is put us somewhere, grab his Sisters of Silence (if they're a thing already) and get some popcorn.
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>>4973498
Nah SoB's don't exist till post horus heresy, so we need to bitchslap that mutt first since lieren is probably the top of the list of shit horus will go for once he flips sides.
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>>4973517
Sisters of Silence. Not SoB. The all female order of mute blanks the Big E has on his personal payroll.
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>>4973130
>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time
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>>4973130
>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.

>>4973227
>Okay, that's one line for each of us. Anyone else we want to include?
>Hold on, I just got the best fucking idea.
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>>4973130
>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
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>>4973035
>If Angron wasn't a walking mass of anger and scar tissue, he'd probably be hot
But Anon that's why he's hot!
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>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.

>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.

>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.

Rest our forehead against our brothers one. Enjoy a moment of silence together before we talk to the Emperor
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>>4973631
He'd be a different kind of hot then. IIRC he was a redhead before the nails, like Magnus.
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we owe the big E the biggest apology in the history of mankind
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>>4973745
We don't even know the guy. We just FELT that he was our maker. Hell, does Lieren even know that he awakened another chaos god and all that entails?
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>>4973871
Malal told Lieren the full thing when we awakened him, that he was just a dead shard, that the truth vision was his gift, and that by gazing upon him he was brought back into existance.
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>>4973871
>Hell, does Lieren even know that he awakened another chaos god and all that entails?
You skimmed the threads instead of reading them properly didn't you?
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>>4973448
I redid the brand concept because it wasn't enough of a crescent.
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>>4973498
Maybe one day we will get the 100%, all unlockables and secrets on this save file.
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I wonder what will happen when me meet Kor Phaeron.
He already had the noghtmare to beware the golden eyes, he felt sonething when he was studyind his old gods and they became 5 instead of 4, even if he did not noticed the unretcon, and now we have a big mark on our forehead telling him to try and kill us.
Maybe it will be Erebus that will try something, Kor is a bit of a coward.
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>>4973939
>I wonder what will happen when me meet Kor Phaeron.
I'll put money on a heart attack. Or shitting himself.
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>>4973941
leren be like
"i'm going to SHIT YOURSELF"
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>>4973959
Have you noticed that happens a lot? When we're angry or surprise people, they tend to lose control of their bladders and bowels. Forget the truth-vision, that's our superpower.
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>>4973981
That's, what comes when you're an 8 foot tall giant 10 year old capable of erasing mountains by just punching them nonstop, any of our brothers has that effect when angry
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>>4973932
This is literally nightmare difficulty.
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>>4974002
I want it, also is everyone cool with making the scar much smaller and off to the right side of our forehead, like a harry potter type thing?

It's just that when I picture that thing smackdab in the middle of our forehead it looks so stupid, having it on the back of our neck or engraved on our shoulder would have been cool, middle of the forehead just looks so...stupid
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>>4974035
It's described as pointing towards Lieren's third eye.
If that doesn't mean "middle of the forehead", then I don't know what would.
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>>4974035
Wouldn't be much of a brand if you could hide it easily.
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>>4974041
It's what this anon said, middle of the forehead. We don't get to choose were we get branded.
Just see it as a mark like the ones in pic related, it will atleast fit the asian aesthetics.
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>>4973130
>>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
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>>4974041
Be hilarious if it meant the euphamism and was around his dick.
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>>4974035
The Scar is what is is. We must wear it with pride.
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>>4973130
>>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
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>>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.
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>>4973130
>>Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.
>>Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.
>>Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.

"Hey dad -"
"What. The fuck. Did you do?"
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>>4973130
>>4973180
Supporting these. Deep apologies all around

Are we still in Malal's creepy horror house with the sarcophagi? Can we purge everything - I want Kaleb leashed and retrieve any sorcerous artifacts so they don't bite us on the ass later like dreadaxe and other mentions in here:
>>4964234

>Prepare Horus and the squats' tomb in this land of retconnia.
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>>4964234
I'm pretty sure Arianka went to go find those two, or perhaps what was left of them if there was anything.

Also if anyone has Skaven it's Trayzn.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait

Tell Magnus you hold no grudge, after all he is the more knowledgeable of matters of the spiritual between the two of you. Prospero was simply free of the taint that sickens Shangrala. As a man of reason, you'd be disappointed if he believed your word without evidence being presented to support it.:26

Thank Magnus for coming to your aid and hug him tighter, apologizing that he had to behold such odorous beings, but, tell him of the trapped hope, another sign of compassion existing in the realm of spirits.: 27

Answer your father yourself, and meet him for the first time.:24

Apologize for what you've done: 2

I am awake and I am ashamed: 6

So thanking Magnus and Telling him you hold no grudge, and answering your father yourself wins the vote

Writing now.

>>4973448
>>4973928
>>4973932
Nice, I love it.

>>4974035
You can imagine the brand wherever you want it to be, same with what Lieren's eyes look like, or any other description. That's the wonderful thing about written works, you can imagine them however you want even if the descriptions go against it or is in your opinion, silly.

>>4973432
I don't know why, but this reminded me of this https://youtu.be/oT2VO6sDnGc

>>4973959
>Lieren meets Huli Jing a second time

>>4973257
>Lieren is the one thrown in the WAAAAGh reactor instead of Vulcan
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>>4974686
>Lieren meets Huli Jing a second time
>Huli Jing eventually regains her strength and gets a legion to help gang Lieren
>Finds out he's like level I'unno some bullshit
>Oh my god here's coming right here everyone's dead
>Lieren just fucking man handles Huli Jing and treats her like a giant cat
>Slannesh fuckin dies from the disrespect and embarrassment
>Lieren: "Heh heh, big kitty go poof"
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"Brother" You say, on the verge of shedding fresh tears as you hold onto Magnus with all of your remaining strength. No matter how tightly you can embrace him, it is not enough to show the depth of your gratitude and love for your sibling so distant yet so near. And in this current state of weakness, you cannot even near a true expression of the joy and affection you feel for him. Tears falling burning upon your cheeks as you're held and supported by your brother by blood and birth. You can sense his emotions shifted, the sorrow and guilt in his heart growing as they are watered by an overcast of shame as he is forced to reflect on the past now sorrowed by experience and time.

"Thank you for standing by my side, and coming to my aid even though in doing so, you endangered yourself gravely" You cry, openly and freely, interlocking your fingers behind his back, locking your tired arms in place long enough to hug your brother's astral avatar as you wish you could his living body "It is I, who should apologize and beg for forgiveness and absolution"

A wave of crushing confusion washes from Magnus' psyche over yours, as his emotional spectrum and surface level thoughts become a storm of static and toneless buzzing. He's been caught entirely off guard by your words, but they do not cease streaming from your mouth, falling one after the other past your lips as you open your heart and speak from the raw emotion flooding out of it.

"If my curiosity had not been so wild and my studies so reckless, if I had not been so weak you would not have been forced to behold the most odorous and abhorrent of spirits" You nearly wail, before you clench your jaw and growl the words, your harsh and hissing tone speaking of the shame and guilt you harbor as deeply as it does of your hatred for such beings. Opening your eyes, you looked up to see your Brother's reddened brow furrowed in confusion, his eyes narrowed and inquisitive as he looks into your eyes with an expression of sheer bewilderment. He is unable to formulate a response or calm the storm of uncertainty and perplexity that now burden's his mind, at least before you resume speaking.

"But, I have proven that not all of the natives of that realm lack virtue or kindness. Amidst my suffering, I found a light of compassion, a spirit trapped like the one I spoke of before" You say as your Brother's keen mind slowly begins to process what you've said, cleansing the spell of stupefaction that had befallen him from the surprise spurned by you asking for forgiveness in turn instead of speaking sage advice or scolding him for the "mistake' he believes he has committed "But, her cage has been cracked by my efforts"

A smile briefly emerges within Magnus' expression, before his logical side demands an explanation for your strange behavior in the face of swallowing his own pride and admitting a fault in his understanding, skill and knowledge. A difficult task, for a man of your brother's character and natural talent.
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>>4974727

"Why would you need to be forgiven? By no fault of your own did these events transpire" He says, restraining himself from mentioning that you did not uphold the caution you had advise him to take in such studies "From my understanding, you were swept into the depths of the great sea by one of the malicious beings you had warned me of, on numerous occasions. Their aura was sickening, but that is no fault of your own, by my own choice I came to your aid as any brother should. Even if it was the first time I've felt threatened in my sojourns into the warp, I chose to come to your aid"

"Exactly! Why do you need to be forgiven when you have done me no wrong brother" You say, smiling weakly as you watch your brother's face contort with confusion and utter bafflement once more, before he understands what you're telling him. The pause between confusion and understanding, could not be measured except by the slimmest of a fraction of a second.

"I assumed you'd feel slighted that it took your life being threatened for me to completely believe your stories and the warnings within them" He admitted, as you allow your arms to droop and slide off of his back "That'd you'd have thought me blind and ignorant for ignoring the truth when you can divine it at a glance, that I had earned your scorn by acting in that manner"

"Brother Magnus, you are more knowledgably than I, particularly in spiritual matters and that which concerns the Empyrean" You humbly answer, watching the pride refill your brother's eyes as you praise his capability and intellect "I am a novice in the field of the study of the warp, especially compared to a master such as yourself. I would have been disappointed if a man of reason such as yourself had believed me without being presented evidence to support my claims"

You laugh

"Even if the evidence came in the form of a near death experience on my part" You say merrily as Magnus shakes his head, sighs and at last chuckles alongside you.

"Now I feel ashamed, you and I are kindred spirits, and it seems in my panic I forgot that you are a scholar by nature as well" Magnus said, his joy yet tinged with regret and worry "But, I am glad my willful ignorance has not damaged our brotherly bond"

"Such friendships are hard to damage, but rare to find. it is as you theorized before" You say with a shrug of your shoulders as you struggle to stand before Magnus lends his shoulder for support "Shangrala is, by its creation or the scheming of villains, sickened by the taint of the vilest form of spirits unlike Prospero, whose beauty is unmarred by such treacherous beings and their wickedness"

"But, they do not solely inhabit the warp surrounding it. My theory was only partially correct, and thus has been disproven. I need to reflect on" Magnus says quietly, pausing as he struggles to find words for what he had experienced and seen. His eyes become haunted, before he closes them and seethes with restrained disgust and rage
cont
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>>4974729

"What I have learned. I am just thankful you remain yourself, Lieren, and have endured the torture they inflicted upon you for merely seeking them out" Magnus says, eyes narrowed with the anger of a historian who has seen his works great and small cast down and burned, their ashes left to the winds.

"I...was terrified I was going to lose the one brother I have met, and a man I respect" He says, raising his voice as he turns away, unable to hide the tears streaming down his face in both the astral and physical realms.

"As did I, but we stand in victory together" You say, patting your hand upon your back as he smiles, relieved and happy you remain with him "Perhaps I should study beneath only under your guidance, Magnus"

"Perhaps I should reconsider my long held beliefs concerning the great sea" He says with a quiet, sagely nod, before he sighed and bowed his head "Are you well enough, to meet our father? He will not think less of you if you need to recover before meeting him. I understand, I saw the agony you endured, you were on the brink of death Lieren. Being in his presence may be detrimental to your recovery, and mental well being"

You shake your head

"I appreciate your concern, but as you wander the warp, I must march on unafraid of the dangers of the path I walk" You say with a nod

"Then I shall take my leave. Though the next time we meet, a detailed explanation of the entity in the cage would be greatly appreciated" Magnus said after a moment of thoughtful hesitation "if you would excuse me, brother, my people are worried for my own safety and I need to tell Amon that"

He pauses and sighs

"What I have learned" He says confidently as you stand by your own power and shuffle forward a few steps "And Brother, next time your life is at risk, seek my assistance as soon as you are able"

"And I say to you the same, Brother. May your journey be safer than mine" You say as you approach the gilded gate standing before you upon a hill of pearls and white jade.

The gate swings open, a blinding golden light that rival's the suns own radiance and an overwhelming pressure falls upon you. Crashing waves of emotion cloud your mind. Panic, hesitation, dread, fear, joy, comfort, relief, and bliss battle for dominance in your mind as you struggle forward another step, straining your eyes to pierce through the veil of your father's blazing soul.

And behold two figures.

The larger of the two, still hidden in the fog that has settled over your eyes from staring at such brilliant spirit and forcefull will turns to you.

"Father?" You call out blindly

"Son?" He asks, his voice wavering with the weakness of all fathers, concern rippling through his bell like cadence until he composes himself, and in a tone that possess all of the authority of the heavens "are you alright?"

Such awkwardness was entirely unexpected, however brief it is.

"He's the second" The smaller figure says to your father
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>>4974731

"I know, I know my son's face, old friend" You father said, kneeling down to greet you as his companion stepped to your side, watching you intently.

Silence reigns until your father speaks again.

"What name have you taken? I myself, do not possess a name, at least anymore, my son but even so, I must know what to call you" He said pausing as he looked you up and down as if uncertain of how to approach you, knowing so little about you.

How do you answer, Lieren

>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"

>"Lieren. It is a father's duty to protect his children, but I have to speak my gratitude, without your interference who knows what fate would have befallen Magnus and I!"

>"What was the purpose of my creation, why did you make me and Magnus what we are? What goal did our birth serve?"

>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"

>Write in
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>>4974732
>I have taken the name Lieren, for I was and am at heart a hunter. First of Panthers, then of tyrants and evil. I am the second son of Wenyan of the village of nothing. pleased to meet you Father of birth.
>You know what I did, don't you.
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>>4974732
>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"
>Write in
Sorry for remember a fifth Chaos god into existence, how do we remove it? Also what is Terra like?
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>>4974732
>>"Lieren. It is a father's duty to protect his children, but I have to speak my gratitude, without your interference who knows what fate would have befallen Magnus and I!"
>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
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>>4974736
I feel that it is important we impress upon emps two things.
1, we are Lieren. Hunter of evil and bringer of prosperity, someone who kills bad things and builds up good.
2. We know about chaos, properly, completely. And because of that, we're going to spend every opportunity to slay them where we can.
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>>4974732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiCMHRMLyyQ
I can't not hear Magnus as Zegram. He does more voice overs as Magnus than anyone else I'm aware of.
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>>4974732
>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"

>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"

Write in
"Not today but perhaps sometime relatively soon we shall have loving bonds of father and child between us, but for now you have my respect and gratitude, and I SWEAR to you and to all of humanity that I love, that I will spend the rest of my day's seeking to correct the atrocities I have unleashed on this day, I swear to Nothing...and everything.


Just some cheeky paradox at the end
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>>4974732
>Write in
"Father, Maker...protector. Already you have become many things to me. I am Lieren, second son of Weylan of Nothing. I am the Hunter of Tyrants and Spirits most foul. I know the truth of my making and your choices that followed before my...leaving. So I have only a question, why?"
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>>4974732
>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"
>"Lieren. It is a father's duty to protect his children, but I have to speak my gratitude, without your interference who knows what fate would have befallen Magnus and I!"
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>>4974732
>"It is good to see you again father. Through my mine own eyes rather than an avatar"
>"My name is Lieren, or hunter in the language of those on Shangrala, after the role I played reducing hostile wildlife and later in the hunting of tyrannical despots."
>"Thank you for your timely aid routing that winged demon... but I believe you know what I did before and after this to this sea of the empyrean."
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>>4974732
>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"
>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
> "I can see your nature father, how can a man be many, yet one? The only other I've seen do something similar is a follower of one of the great evils, and yet I can clearly see you are different, that is no wicked sorcery that binds your soul"
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>>4974759
>>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"
>>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
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>>4974801
Actually, I'm changing to
>I have taken the name Lieren, for I was and am at heart a hunter. First of Panthers, then of tyrants and evil. I am the second son of Wenyan of the village of nothing. pleased to meet you Father of birth.
>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
> "I can see your nature father, how can a man be many, yet one? The only other I've seen do something similar is a follower of one of the great evils, and yet I can clearly see you are different, that is no wicked sorcery that binds your soul"
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>>4974807
That assumes that that's the interpretation malal is going for, personally I believe that he was a creation of an old one, made as the "perfect" human being and what humanity could one day become
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>>4974732
>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"
>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
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>>4974701
>>4974686
huli jung just becomes the third legion's designated warp punching bag and she always ends up with her lunch money being taken to such a degree even the grey knights are jealous of how much deamon bullying the third legion does
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>>4974813
Lieren already saw the emperor and saw it was a bunch of souls, it was when our eyes bled.
I'm not assuming anything.
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>>4974842
>>4974813
And before you ask for source

Thread 7, post 4772542

But you willed yourself to remain dreaming, unable to permit this mysterious being's true form to remain as a mystery. Something deep within you refused to fail in this half conscious endeavor. So you now stood, on the border between dream and reality, subconscious and conscious, sleeping and waking out of a stubborn refusal to be denied the satisfaction of comprehending the oddity that pervaded the second man.

And, within the dream, for the first time in all your life. You felt small. Like a child. Even standing before Kanzeon, a life that had spanned untold millennium whose very essence would make the lifeforce of others seem dimmed and dull, was incomparable to the feeling of merely imagining the man of ever shifting shape. It felt as though you were a kitten in audience with a panther. Age without age, power without limit. It was akin to matching gazes with a god.

But this was no god, no. You could see his being truly, though the mere act of perceiving the nature of such a might existence pained you. It fevered the mind, the sheer labor of thought that was required to see through the glamor and radiance that surrounded the truth of the man's heart and essence.

A legion, A collection. He was at once both many and one. A conglomerate of souls and minds, melted down into one lonely existence. An endless sea bound within a single vessel. Humanity concentrated. But he was no god. You knew your kinfolk at a glance, though this man and his fellow to a far lesser extent, were sufficed with a great power and burdened by the weight of eons.

They were both human. Though the greater of the two had once been many, a strange concept.

The second man turned to face you, his old earth brown eyes softening with an almost fatherly concern before his attention was taken once more by his companion. His form settled, into that an almost unremarkable man. His jaw was square and hard, his hair long and darker than his eyes. For a moment, a mask attempted to settle upon him. That of a man whose hair was whitened by age and whose back was crooked by countless year of toil, but you refused such an illusion and forced yourself to continue perceiving the reality of the incomparable man.
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>>4974849
Ight, I was wrong.

Still like my theory in canon though
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>>4974849
Accidentally copied too much instead of only the part that was really important, shit.
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>>4974732
>I have taken the name Lieren, for I was and am at heart a hunter. First of Panthers, then of tyrants and evil. I am the second son of Wenyan of the village of nothing. pleased to meet you Father of birth.
>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
> "I can see your nature father, how can a man be many, yet one? The only other I've seen do something similar is a follower of one of the great evils, and yet I can clearly see you are different, that is no wicked sorcery that binds your soul"
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>>4974732


>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"
>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
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>>4974732
>I have taken the name Lieren, for I was and am at heart a hunter. First of Panthers, then of tyrants and evil. I am the second son of Wenyan of the village of nothing. pleased to meet you Father of birth.
>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
> "I can see your nature father, how can a man be many, yet one? The only other I've seen do something similar is a follower of one of the great evils, and yet I can clearly see you are different, that is no wicked sorcery that binds your soul"
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>>4974740
adding this
>"I can see your nature father, how can a man be many, yet one? The only other I've seen do something similar is a follower of one of the great evils, and yet I can clearly see you are different, that is no wicked sorcery that binds your soul"
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>>4974732
>>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"
>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
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>>4974732
+1>>4974801
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>>4974732
>>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"
>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
I’m >>4973941
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>>4974732

>"Lieren. It is a father's duty to protect his children, but I have to speak my gratitude, without your interference who knows what fate would have befallen Magnus and I!"
>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
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>>4975156
>888th to post
Are you feeling a little khorney anon?
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>>4975312
Now that you mention it, ripping the head off of a guy who cut me off in traffic was pretty out of character for me…
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>>4975325
I don't know Anon, that sounds pretty normal to me.
...If you kept his skull though you might have a problem.
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>>4975369
*Looks at the throne of brass coated skulls draped in tanned human skin in my solar*
Not him but I think I may have a problem
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>>4975491
>brass coated skulls
Well there's your problem, you're not using gold!
That's like having a lasgun with no bayonet affixed.
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>>4974732
>>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"

>>"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly"
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>>4974732
>>"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father"
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>>4974801
Support
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Calling the vote now/

I have taken the name Lieren, for I was and am at heart a hunter. First of Panthers, then of tyrants and evil. I am the second son of Wenyan of the village of nothing. pleased to meet you Father of birth.: 4

"You know what I did, don't you? I can see it in your heart. You know of my folly":15

Sorry...: 1

"Lieren. It is a father's duty to protect his children, but I have to speak my gratitude, without your interference who knows what fate would have befallen Magnus and I!": 3

"I am named Lieren, for I was first a hunter, I am the second son of Wenyan, of the village of nothing. Pleased to meet your acquaintance, father": 12

"It is good to see you again father. Through my mine own eyes rather than an avatar": 1

"Not today but perhaps sometime relatively soon we shall have loving bonds of father and child between us, but for now you have my respect and gratitude, and I SWEAR to you and to all of humanity that I love, that I will spend the rest of my day's seeking to correct the atrocities I have unleashed on this day, I swear to Nothing...and everything.: 1

"Father, Maker...protector. Already you have become many things to me. I am Lieren, second son of Weylan of Nothing. I am the Hunter of Tyrants and Spirits most foul. I know the truth of my making and your choices that followed before my...leaving. So I have only a question, why?": 1

Thank you for your timely aid routing that winged demon... but I believe you know what I did before and after this to this sea of the empyrean.": 1

I can see your nature father, how can a man be many, yet one? The only other I've seen do something similar is a follower of one of the great evils, and yet I can clearly see you are different, that is no wicked sorcery that binds your soul": 6

Total votes: 20

Alright, so I am named Lieren... and You know what I did...win!

Writing now

>>4974840
Why are the emperor's children bullying the Napalm fox demon?
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>>4975982
Because she is a silly fluff butt and slannesh was angry.

What sorta punishment did she even get?
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You feel small, a rare sensation for one such as yourself who was named Giant even in the youngest years of your so far brief existence. Like a child, one who needs protection rather than a guardian yourself. Your nameless father, a collection of souls woven together under a singular purpose and will, is powerful enough to rival those who name themselves god. But like yourself and Magnus, he is a man. His breed of humanity and nature as a gathering of individually potent wills and souls may mean he is nearer to unreachable perfection than the majority of the mob of humanity, however. His power does not separate him from mankind itself. His voice resonates with emotions all men hold and share. Unlike the raiders from the star, his heart is familiar to you by not only the way of kinship but by common shared humanity.

You avert your eyes, to save them from the trial of enduring the sheer brilliance of your father's being. His is an essence that scalds to observe, if you could not see the truth of him, you'd assume him by nature of that pain to be a spirit in the guise of a man. But, you have seen in his heart, the core of his existence and judged him for what he is rather than what he appears.

His companion approaches you, and sets a gentle, age worn hand upon your shoulder. His concern spills over your mind as he studies you intently. It is not the conflagration of your soul that worries him, but rather the curious capability of your eyes.

"What a odd adaptation" He muses, his gentle voice edged with menace "Utterly unexpected would you say?"

He turns back to your father, who stands outside of your vision burning the edges of your retinas with weight of his spirit's raw essence. You wipe tears from your eyes, hiding the blood that pollutes them in your palm. No doubt, the radiant man without a name notices this. Steeling your resolve, you turn to face your creator once more.

"I am named Lieren, for first I was a hunter" You say, bowing cordially but not submissively before your "birth" father "I am the second son of Wenyan of the village of Nothing. Pleased to make your acquaintance"

You look in his eyes directly, and purse your lips as you pause. Fields of fertile mud met pools of golden fire.

"Father" You say, turning your eyes away as he reflexively masks the intensity of his soul's light, allowing you to look upon him without suffering needlessly. His companion stays by your side, watching the fire within you intently for flaws or signs of corruption. He believes his intent hidden, but your eyes reveal all, even the secrets kept from one's own heart. His eyes widen as he notices something, a shifting in the currents of your great sea. Something you now feel for the first time as well. Silver moon light, cool waters, the essence of a maiden dancing hand in hand with the energy of a man. A parting gift from the caged maiden of ice and order. A similar gift to the healing fire you bled into her heart.
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>>4975998

Tender water that filled the void left by Harsh fires.

"Truly a curious adaptation" The man repeats, shaken now more than when he noticed the exact function of your eyesight and soul's ceaseless cycle of destruction and renewal "I thought you ignored my advise entirely"

Your father turns his head, in confusion before he to realizes you posses both Yang and Yin energy, however it must appear to their eyes in which the forgotten legacy of mankind history is kept and guarded. To save having to explain something you do in now way understand yourself, you decide to divert their attention and change the course of the conversation from an uncomfortable subject to one you're prepared and equipped to deal with. You doubt even Magnus would know what to make of a soul split between Masculine and Feminine natures. Facing your gravest folly, and boundless shame is preferable to delving into that particular mystery!

"You know what I did, don't you?" You spat suddenly, you voice cutting with the hardened ice of a maiden's scorned heart, and snarling with the blazing convictions, your tone dropped and lowered to a scathing hiss focused directly upon yourself in shame and guilt "You know my folly"

In a moment, the dual nature of your essence and self is forgotten as an chilling silence falls upon the astral sanctuary's halls. Wards, more intricate than the script of Null Denouncement flare with golden light as your father takes a long, ponderous breath. His companion bows his head, perhaps fearing a confrontation or dreading a sudden flight away from this familial audience.

"I am one of a select few who can remember a time before your "folly, Lieren" He says solemnly, carefully guarding his emotions as he approaches you and falls to a knee before you "Most others cannot perceive the change that occurred, when you upset the currents of the layer of reality you know as the Empyrean, setting off a chain reaction that altered the collective unconsciousness to believe the calamity you fueled to have always existed in some form, a ripple of negative mental energy that superstitious men would mistake for an otherworldly intelligence, perhaps a demon or a god!"

He laughed, scorning such men though the gesture was at its heart jovial.

"I know what I beheld" You reply dully, meeting his gaze again "My eyes see all the truths of the world, the emotions that color the hearts of men, and the lies that they speak"

"You were frightened" He said, a surge of panic tinging his tone and mannerisms "Panicked. What you battled against, was no more than a raging storm. You struggled against the currents of the warp, and subconsciously gave it a face, an identity. A defense mechanism to comprehend forces your mind was not equipped to experience"

You remain silent. Its clear to both of you this façade is flimsy and desperate.
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>>4975999

He wants you to believe, with all his heart, that the lords of hell and the wicked spirits beneath them, are nothing more than a bad dream and natural forces misunderstood as active malevolence by the fearful and ignorant. You cannot blame him for taking this stance, Guozhi has often warned you of how easily knowledge alone can corrupt and ruin a man.

"Though I suppose, a more productive subject to discus, is why you upset the winds of the Empyrean to begin with, Lieren" His companion says, sensing the tension mounting between you who cannot help but to see the truth, and your father who wishes to hide it away.

What do you say, Lieren?

>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"

>"I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes. But whether the forces I met were living or imagined, does not change that I brought chaos where there was once serenity. And I know I cannot undo mistakes made, and realize any apology or pleading for forgiveness will fall short of absolving me for my carelessness"

>"To destroy them. I hate looking at winds so foul. I've had success in ceasing such energies before, driving them away if I could not snuff them out. I overestimated my skill and the precautions I took before hand proved insufficient"

>"You mean why I sought to understand the mystery laid before me when I learned of a fifth lord of hell, and sought to learn of him so I may cast of his mask and know the face of my enemy, so I may kill him shall we ever again cross paths?"

>Write in
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>>4976000
>"I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes. But whether the forces I met were living or imagined, does not change that I brought chaos where there was once serenity. And I know I cannot undo mistakes made, and realize any apology or pleading for forgiveness will fall short of absolving me for my carelessness"
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>>4976000
>>"I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes. But whether the forces I met were living or imagined, does not change that I brought chaos where there was once serenity. And I know I cannot undo mistakes made, and realize any apology or pleading for forgiveness will fall short of absolving me for my carelessness"
We will need to clearly say we know the truth at some point, but we can play along for the moment.
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>>4976000
>>"I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes. But whether the forces I met were living or imagined, does not change that I brought chaos where there was once serenity. And I know I cannot undo mistakes made, and realize any apology or pleading for forgiveness will fall short of absolving me for my carelessness"
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>>4976000
>"I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes. But whether the forces I met were living or imagined, does not change that I brought chaos where there was once serenity. And I know I cannot undo mistakes made, and realize any apology or pleading for forgiveness will fall short of absolving me for my carelessness"
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>>4976000
>Write in
"Thank you but it is to late for such tales. I know the truth and even now I can see the hope and fear in your heart. So I must ask now what?"
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Lorgar is gonna be pissed when he realizes we knew the truth all along.
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>>4976000
>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"

>"I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes. But whether the forces I met were living or imagined, does not change that I brought chaos where there was once serenity. And I know I cannot undo mistakes made, and realize any apology or pleading for forgiveness will fall short of absolving me for my carelessness"
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>>4976000
>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"

>"To destroy them. I hate looking at winds so foul. I've had success in ceasing such energies before, driving them away if I could not snuff them out. I overestimated my skill and the precautions I took before hand proved insufficient"
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>>4976000
>Write in
I know what they are father, I know all of their truth. I know thatunderstanding alone could damn a soul. But I also know there is more to it than I know. But you not wanting me to know or accept it shows another truth, you would rather I didn't know for more than that I think.

Ah honoured elder I do not believe we have been introduced. Since you so keenly studied myself might I ask a name?

Nothing can be hidden from me, such is the truth of things."
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>>4976059
>>4976027
Fuck forgot to link my posts
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>>4976000
>>"To destroy them. I hate looking at winds so foul. I've had success in ceasing such energies before, driving them away if I could not snuff them out. I overestimated my skill and the precautions I took before hand proved insufficient"
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Emperor wants desperately wants us to pretend that they are not demons and so called "god's", that would be bullshit even if it weren't for the fact that a great deal of our people already know about it!
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>>4976000
>"I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes. But whether the forces I met were living or imagined, does not change that I brought chaos where there was once serenity. And I know I cannot undo mistakes made, and realize any apology or pleading for forgiveness will fall short of absolving me for my carelessness"
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>>4976000
>mind can play tricks on the eyes...

>To destroy them! I hate looking at them..

Phone posting, so not going to write out all the option. But yeah, let him try and hide the truth away for a little while longer. We must affirm that we wish to slay them.
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>>4976000
> "Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"
Ain't no shuffling this under the proverbial rug there Emps.

> "To destroy them. I hate looking at winds so foul. I've had success in ceasing such energies before, driving them away if I could not snuff them out. I overestimated my skill and the precautions I took before hand proved insufficient"
It's so fucking simple yet seemingly impossible to achieve. To Lieren's mind, destroying Chaos is the great obstacle that prevents humanity from achieve a peaceful, harmonious future.

Death, disease, conflict...these are part and parcel of nature itself, but the daemonic filth spread and propagate vileness to feed and grow as a cancer in the hearts, minds and souls of men.
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>>4976000
>>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"
And to try to assuage his fears that we might be corrupted already,
>"To destroy them. I hate looking at winds so foul. I've had success in ceasing such energies before, driving them away if I could not snuff them out. I overestimated my skill and the precautions I took before hand proved insufficient"
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>>4975982
i meant second legion, FUCK
>>4975989
altho that could be a good point
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>>4976000
>>"To destroy them. I hate looking at winds so foul. I've had success in ceasing such energies before, driving them away if I could not snuff them out. I overestimated my skill and the precautions I took before hand proved insufficient"
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>>4976000
>"I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes. But whether the forces I met were living or imagined, does not change that I brought chaos where there was once serenity. And I know I cannot undo mistakes made, and realize any apology or pleading for forgiveness will fall short of absolving me for my carelessness"
>"To destroy them. I hate looking at winds so foul. I've had success in ceasing such energies before, driving them away if I could not snuff them out. I overestimated my skill and the precautions I took before hand proved insufficient"
I wonder if Malcador and the emperor have noticed the brand yet and realized what it does? Perhaps we can get dad to drop the kayfabe if he and Malcador realize how badly chaos wants us fucking dead in the long term.
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>>4976000
>>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"
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>>4976000
>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"

Write in
>father, look upon my forehead and know that I have been marked for extermination by them, I cannot deny a threat to both myself and those around me, I must know what I fight against or be destroyed
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Imagine if when we receive our legion our gene-sons start carving the same symbol into their exposed skin at first to feel closer to us- and then to openly mock the force of chaos we fight against.
>"If you want my primarch then you're going to have to go through me first."
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>>4976000

>"I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes. But whether the forces I met were living or imagined, does not change that I brought chaos where there was once serenity. And I know I cannot undo mistakes made, and realize any apology or pleading for forgiveness will fall short of absolving me for my carelessness"
>"To destroy them. I hate looking at winds so foul. I've had success in ceasing such energies before, driving them away if I could not snuff them out. I overestimated my skill and the precautions I took before hand proved insufficient"

I think that confronting the Emperor outright will just result in him extermanatus when he arrives.
This situation is like when we first met Gao, except that the Emperor actually wants to help humanity, but for now we need to lie and get into a better position before we can truly act on our intentions.
DO NOT FUCKING TELL HIM THE TRUTH.
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>Truly a curious adaptation" The man repeats, shaken now more than when he noticed the exact function of your eyesight and soul's ceaseless cycle of destruction and renewal "I thought you ignored my advise entirely"

>Your father turns his head, in confusion before he to realizes you posses both Yang and Yin energy,

There will never be female space marines malcador, girls are icky
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>>4976000
>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"
>"You mean why I sought to understand the mystery laid before me when I learned of a fifth lord of hell, and sought to learn of him so I may cast of his mask and know the face of my enemy, so I may kill him shall we ever again cross paths?"
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>>4976197
We are marked to be hunted by chaos, and our world is a playground of them, even if we purge everything he will notice it.
Better to lay the cards on the table, so he know that we oppose chaos instaed of workship it.
He already notices our eyes of truth, lying will just ensure that we face actual fury when he finds out, instead of asking to stay silent to others that would not understand.
>>4976194
I will support the write-in.
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>>4976122
I change my mind, this facade is flimsy as fuck.

The other anons are right, being upfront and honest about our desire to slay every last one of them and all the pain they have caused us is the best way forward.
Perhaps give him the story of our past.
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>>4976208
Idiot, I change from >ming can play tricks
To
>Father I am no fool

Keep the destroying part.
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>>4976000
>>"I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes. But whether the forces I met were living or imagined, does not change that I brought chaos where there was once serenity. And I know I cannot undo mistakes made, and realize any apology or pleading for forgiveness will fall short of absolving me for my carelessness"
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>>4976194
+1 to the write-in as well
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>>4976000
>>4976194
supporting
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>>4976000
>>4976189
>>4976194
Changing my vote, lets rip the band aid off and show definitive proof that Lieren is utterly dedicated to destroying chaos via the presence of the brand.
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>>4976200
Actully, I think I will do a write-in to make it less confrobtational, so Emps doesn't feel like we are just being unruly
>Father, while I appreciate your attempt to try and shield me from these great monsters through ignorance, as a child would from a threat that is far away, that is not an option that I have. Just as my eyes bled when I first saw ypu, and gazed upon your nature as many yet one, so have I seen what these lords of hell are. But shoyld have been only knowledge best forgotten, I could ignore them, and exercise caution, but alas, my home has been plagued by their machinations for a long time, for I already fought the changed monsters left by them, the twisted men that would swear to their service, and the lower evils they send to deatroy and corrupt. Even now, two other nations, led by the champions of the Butcher and the Liar are preparing to attack, after I cleansed the hang the Hedonist.
>Father, look upon my forehead and know that I have been marked for extermination by them, I cannot deny a threat to both myself and those around me, I must know what I fight against or be destroyed.
>But above all Father, I must apologise, for in my haste to try to catalogue and prepare against a potential wicked enemy, I accidentaly brought him into reality once more.
This should cover our ass from the Emperor's fury. Just hope it doesn't make him want to exterminatus Shangrala.
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>>4976274
This should help
> support
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>>4976000
>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"

>Write-in
"Before you say more, you must understand. I have seen my people used as cattle, slaves, playthings and food. In the most disgusting ways. This was no mortal doing, because mortals have their limits, and madness can only bring so much cruelty. One of this things that you consider a "natural phenomenon", was the shadow ruler of my people. She played with them. She was served with skins of fair young womans and any other man or child it wanted. Everything falled to it s knees in her presence. Everything was drugged, weak and more. And it was no natural thing. I and my people felt in our very bodies the share disgust we had. It was out of this world, and it was made by that spirit".
"I cannot walk anymore and say creatures like her don t exist. They exist. They aren t great, they aren t "gods", they aren t worthy of anything, they are only sickening worms. But they exist."
"The cries, fear and desperation of countless men, women and .... childrens are in my mind. So many taken. So many. And I will not have this injustice go away. I will remember them and fight even for them. Every tear that those people and
especially those innocent childrens dropped, i will have this beings repay it with their fluids 100 times over. And I will make sure they can t attack my people again because I known they are working for attacking us again. One of this spirits was quickly working for create a region between reality and irreality. They want my people and this world, more than me."
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>>4976000
>>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"

>>"You mean why I sought to understand the mystery laid before me when I learned of a fifth lord of hell, and sought to learn of him so I may cast of his mask and know the face of my enemy, so I may kill him shall we ever again cross paths?"

No. No double speak bullshit, no convenient lies to let us PRETEND everything is okay, THIS EXACT KIND of ignorance is what Doomed Magnus and so many others in canon. Playing along with the lie will do far more harm then good.
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>>4976194
+1
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>>4976000
>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"
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Letting him think he fooled us is simply a return to status quo, merely knowing about chaos is dangerous yes, but wholesome ignorance has proven time and time again that it doesn't work to stop chaos and is infact entirely in their favor.

Chaos are drugdealer

Khorne: one little brawl to get the blood pumping won't hurt
Slaneesh:go to the orgy it's fine you deserve a little fun
Tzeentch: sure tricking that old guy into including you in your will wasn't nice, but you deserve that money
Nurgle:just take a nap bro, taking out the trash can wait

And then the next thing you know you're cutting off your own dick,killing your family for fun, planning to overthrow the government, and serve dogshit tacos to every home.

These examples by themselves aren't bad things, but you need to know when to stop, when to have restraint, and recognize the insidious whispers of the warp egging you on to go darker and deeper for what they are.

Malal is a weirdo who just tells you straight up that he fucking hates you but he hates those demons more, go fuck em up and I'll kill you last
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>>4976194
>>4976438
Also adding the write in
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>>4976439
This. So much this.
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>>4976194
Support
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>>4976194
Support
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I hope Malal counts the differebt variations on how to talk to the Emperor as sidegrades to the vote instaed of another, because it would make the not lie vote weaker since we are more descentralized.
He has done it before, but it's quite important now.
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>>4976000
>>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"
>>father, look upon my forehead and know that I have been marked for extermination by them, I cannot deny a threat to both myself and those around me, I must know what I fight against or be destroyed
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>>4976583
Support.
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>>4976000
>"Fine they aren't 'gods' but what does it matter if we don't believe in them as such? There are three other nations with armaments, sorcery, and disease capable of destroying my nation that all worship them with fanatical fervor. I doubt they are alone in their worship on the planets that dot this galaxy and with how the Immaterium works that very worship will empower them to the point they are functionally gods and it becomes self-fulfilling. That is what I assume you are trying to avoid?"
Just to show we understand where he's coming from.
"Regardless that is not enough for I have caught a glimpse of what they are and how to fight them. When I was first exposed to the fruit of the seeds they sowed I was disgusted but I also search for a solution. I found two answers: to turn the everyman against their efforts by helping him and to write a book to help guide the everyman live a better life. The book was suppose to be a small thing consisting of wisdom I learned to be passed on to the future generation so to prevent them from falling into the same pitfall the prior generation did. However when I had to face the shadow of those abominations and their servants I was at a loss of how to defeat them. Eventually I resorted to superstition against my rational judgement and recited verses to ward off "evil spirits" since I lacked other options and was surprised it worked better than I expected. Not only did it repel them, it outright harm them. I still remember how my words physically wounded the Beguiler of Dynasties, that was when I realized rejection of their very nature is what is needed to stop them. Anything less is just a half-measure."
>Point to the mark on our forehead.
>"This is why I've been cursed by them. I've become to big a threat to them and need to be subdued or subverted."
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Someone recently drew my attention to this picture, notice the skulls on his armrests. It feels ominous.
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>>4976869
>notice the skulls on his armrests. It feels ominous.
Naw, the whole skull motif is pretty standard Imperial iconography.
Something about the beauty of the human form and memento mori or some shit.
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>>4976872
I believe the ominous part is the big "2" and "11" written on the skulls.
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>>4976875
lol. wth.
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>>4976875
Makes sense I guess.
If anything, I'm willing to bet Malcador knows exactly what happened, or was directly involved, in whatever happened to them.
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>>4976000
>"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity that wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will. And it was not the first, nor as you obviously hope, will it be the last. These befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead"
But also tell him we can keep quiet about the true nature of what we saw in Chaos if he asks for it. This is a sensible topic and our wise father surely has reasons for his strange behavior (certainly he actually knows better and has good reasons to keep quiet about this topic). We should, however, emphasize that we wish to learn more, especially defensively/passively usable knowledge against these Empyreal forces. Maybe we can have a glance (for reproduction) at his wards right now!
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>>4976869
Uncle Maddie is many things, but the one this he is not is Bitch Made.

The dude was part of the ORIGINAL Illuminatii, hell it's implied he created the fucking organization himself. If you think the missing primarchs was the first time he's iced a friend's kids you're definitely mistaken.
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>>4976885
I don't think he actually did anything to the two missing Primarchs. This probably just a case of GW trying to make a character look cool and explaining nothing.

That being said, I'm not at all surprised that Malcador is playing bad cop in this first introduction; he IS the First Inquisitor, and makes Emps look more gentle and trustworthy by comparison than he actually is.
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>>4976194
In the interest of ensuring something like this I abandon my own write ins to support this
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>>4976869
Those skulls are waaay too small to be primarch skulls. Dudes are gigantic with the bones to match.
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>>4977001
I wonder if because of this we are going to get tucked away by the emps and malcador. We become Malcadors pet project and Magnus sworn to secrecy a out our existence
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Calling the vote now.

I suppose the mind can play tricks on the eyes.: 8

"Thank you but it is to late for such tales. I know the truth and even now I can see the hope and fear in your heart. So I must ask now what?": 1

Father, look upon my forehead and know that I have been marked for extermination by them: 15

"You mean why I sought to understand the mystery laid before me when I learned of a fifth lord of hell:2

Father, while I appreciate your attempt to try and shield me from these great monsters through ignorance,: 2

But above all Father, I must apologize: 2

"Before you say more, you must understand. I have seen my people used as cattle, slaves, playthings and food. In the most disgusting ways: 1

"Father, I am no fool. As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds. :20

"To destroy them. I hate looking at winds so foul.": 7

I know what they are father, I know all of their truth. I know that understanding alone could damn a soul.: 1

"Fine they aren't 'gods' but what does it matter if we don't believe in them as such?:1

Total votes: 32

So I am no fool, and Look upon my forehead (one less than half the total votes, remember) Wins. Writing now

>>4976439
Pretty spot on there captain

>>4976033
>Why didn't you tell me brother!?
>Your head is as barren as your scalp, you never asked, idiot
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You ignore your father's lesser but still might companion to continue addressing him directly, and to avoid being forced to drop the uncomfortable subject of the lie your father wishes to cast over your mind as the truth! You understand his reasons, you've seen what knowledge alone of these spirits can do to a man's psyche! How their mere stench can linger and stick to their soul! How the shadows they cast can sicken and ruin a man! How the footprints they leave in mud corrodes the soil and renders the land barren. How heroes become villains, and villains become monsters under their poisonous tutelage. Though all three aspects of your self are badly wounded and frayed, you look your gentle mannered father in his eyes. And find within them the untold eons of a lifetime of tragedies and desperation, within his eyes lies the gaze of a shepherd whose flock has gone astray and endangered themselves. Your father's eyes are those of a guardian, a guardian forced to commit detestable acts to protect that which he cherishes. An idealistic man cast to the raging winds of cynicism. He saw the glory of man kind wither and corrupt into monstrous barbarity. In those pools of mud, do you see your own future?

You shudder merely imagining the outcome of your ideals meeting your reason in direct conflict. Is that the tragedy that has so filled your father's eyes with guilt and sorrow. Sighing your teeth, you hang your head, shameful that you are unable to meet his gaze directly any longer. But you do not allow your resolve to slack and weaken your convictions. The truth must be known, and upheld, otherwise ignorance and superstition will reign as the idiot kings of humanity.

"Father" You call to him, with a voice that could grind stone, turning your eyes back to his even though you faltered moments before "I am no fool"

You can hear his jaw tighten, and his companion turn to face you. Both remain silent, but the air becomes heavy with tension and filled with anticipation. Hiding your arms in your sleeves, you adapt the posture of a humble scholar and servant, swaying your head and body back and forth like a reed in the wind as you summon the courage to continue your minor dissent against your creator.

"As I can tell your nature, I can divine intelligence and intent in even the most alien of minds" You say as you still yourself, and pull a hand from your sleeves to direct it towards your nameless father. The astral ether is still, all is silent, the golden glow dims to the intensity of a dying fire. Boldly, you step closer to your father, golden eyes locked with his own as you wear as mask of stern conviction and unshakeable belief.

"What I FOUGHT was a malevolent, sapient entity" You say, speaking in a cadence similar to the one often used by Cao Yunru or Shirong, a tone properly used for lectures or official orations "That wished to do me harm or otherwise subject me to its will"
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>>4977087
cont
"Son, Lieren. Please listen to reason" Your father pleads, as his companion judges your every minute movement and subtle gesture, like a crane tracking its quarry beneath marsh grasses

"You aren't thinking clearly, you're delirious. Superstition has affected your perceptions, and lead to you anthropomorphizing the equivalent of a natural disaster"

"And it was not the first" You continue, going against the teachings of filial piety and ignoring the wisdom your father uses the conceal his well meaning falsehoods "Nor, as you obviously hope, the last"

The air becomes frigid and biting. The lights dim further. Your father retains his gentle, almost jovial mask but you can see pain in his eyes, as he struggles to maintain his composure and approach you as a father should his long departed son. His companion, however, stands firm and ready to strike, like a panther threatened in his own territory.

"Lieren, talented men, good men have been driven to become mindless zealots by believing in such myths and delusions" You father whispers, scolding you without raising his tone "Faith and belief if in such primitive, controlling legends is a fallacy best left to our ancestors. From what Magnus has told me of you, you are reasonable, so surely you must see how foolish it is to believe such childish yarns like gods or, hah, daemons"

You say nothing, pondering for a moment his queer pronunciation of demons, before forcefully recentering the stream of your thoughts to matters of far greater importance.

"Then he has also told you how finely I have honed my vision" You retort, a devastating spoken blow. Your father's companion, who mentioned that same keenness of expression hiss through his teeth in exasperation as your father frown deeply.

"Did you modify his genetic template to have a wit as sharp as his eyes?" His companion mutters ruefully as your father shakes his head.

"Fear plays tricks on even the sanest of minds, and the sharpest of perceptions" Your father excuse, his tone lowering further as his scolding begins to lose its warm veneer "Lieren, understand that what you saw were little more than thoughtforms, certainly not the actively malicious spirits you imagine them to be"

You bite your lip to keep yourself from rolling your eyes. There's no cause for rudeness.

"Those befouled spirits are my truest enemies in either the worlds of the living or the dead!" You proclaim, raising your tone to show both of them the certainty of your words and seething hatred for such creatures. You lower your lips, realizing you had began to snarl as your emotions briefly took hold of you.

"And that answers my question" Your father's companion says, his shoulders visibly relaxing as the sense of aggressive suspicion roiling away from his brow wanes but does not fade "You said it yourself, you're a hunter first and foremost. You were trying to attack, those mindless forces out of a nurtured sense of hatred. Such youthful foolishness"
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>>4977088

Your father wipes a tear from his cheek, his frown inverting for a moment away from a scowl to what to your eyes appears to be a grin of fatherly pride

"He is young, such rashness is to be expected in boys. But you'd waste your energy hating a storm, though it is admirable to defend others against its winds, to treat it as living is..." Your father says, using soft words to try and convince you of his benevolent lie. He is attempting to misdirect you out of concern. Even Magnus may be convinced by the sheer conviction of which he speaks these false lessons. Even Guozhi would eventually be swayed from the belief's of his hundred lifetimes if he listened to the honeyed words of your radiant father, but alas.

In "gifting" you your sight, Chun Qiang has also cursed you from ever taking comfort in pleasant lies.

"Father!" You bark, impudently and out of turn, brushing aside your Iron hued bangs to bare your forehead and reveal the brand carved upon it "Look upon my forehead and know that I have been marked for extermination by those "mindless storms""

You step forward, your father's companion reflexively moving to intercept you as you raise a hand and outstretched finger to your father, pointing it at the tip of his nose.

"Malcador!" He bellows, as the lights in the astral sanctuary roar to their original intensity, as your father's robed companion lowers the walking stick he holds, bowing the two heads of the eagle that rest upon it. Rising to his full height, your father looks down upon you, but remains silent. Sighing through your nose, you gather and harden your resolve, keeping your hand and finger raise and continue your declaration.

"I cannot deny a threat to both myself or those around me" You state, far more cordially and gently than before "I must know what I fight against or be destroyed"

"You're a bold child aren't you, hunter" Malcador laughs.

"Why?" Your father asks plainly

"Huh?" You gape

"Why do you hate them, these "spirits?" He asks softly, as he would if he were questioning you about your interest or rare idle hobbies.
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>>4977089

How do you answer, Lieren?

>They are parasites! and fill me with the same revulsion as cat infested with ticks, or a corpse bloated with maggots would! They feed on those I love, so I burn them away wherever I find them!

>These "Storms" ruined the lands of my birth and oppressed the people. From my birth I have been faced with their atrocious and abhorrent influences, and the contemptible deeds of their slaves. To bring prosperity to all of mankind, I must first chase away these fiends

>I see the character, value and inner morality of all creature's through their hearts. I've seen what they are, and have found them by nature or deed to be truly unforgiveable. Like any mortal villain or criminal, I wish to see these THINGS hang by a taut rope!

>I hate them. Is that not enough? The scorn I foster for them is raw and undiluted! Meeting eyes with one fills me with dark and wild rage! Tyrants they are! and as tyrants they shall fall! Oppressors and abusers, no matter their birth, renown or innate natures, shall burn by my hands!

>I cannot say. From birth, I hated their ilk. I imagine I'll meet my end cursing them as I die and discover the greatest mystery of life *laugh*

>Write in
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also found a video that sums up the last month or so of this quest, in particular Malal and Lieren's interaction
https://youtu.be/7hX4n7XVbZ0
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>>4977091
>write in

Tell him our story, of shangrala, of the oppression of Gao, the tyranny of vipul, the madness of Yan and every seething injustice we have seen and stopped.

The reason we hate them is because we love all men and virtue, and there is no virtue in these abusers of men.
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>>4977091
>Write in
"Be they spirit, thoughtform, parasite or simple illusion they are the worst of us and the worst of what can be. They are the force pulling us from order and turning mankind away from the joint destiny and sanctity of our people. They are the maws that being the downfall of all civilized and good! I hate them for they are the empitomy of strife and ruin here to drag any and all into the pits of chaos."
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>>4977095
>>4977098
Actually, combining these two would do us some good.

I feel like he needs context for our hate.
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>>4977091
>>Write in
"Their actions in subjecting the world that raised me to untold hardship and suffering alone would have made me hunt them to the ends of the galaxy but no. They go beyond even that.

I hate them for by their very nature, they corrupt the very best and brightest of our people. A renown warrior seeking greater strength in adversity, an artist despairing to reach that unreachable peak of perfection, a scholar cursing his lack of knowledge to save lives. They target those who would raise our people, the heroes, the savants and leaders and corrupt them into pawns for their own machinations.

I hate their corrupting influence and their deprivation of what we could become."
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>>4977095
>>4977098
+1
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>>4977091
>These "Storms" ruined the lands of my birth and oppressed the people. From my birth I have been faced with their atrocious and abhorrent influences, and the contemptible deeds of their slaves. To bring prosperity to all of mankind, I must first chase away these fiends
>I see the character, value and inner morality of all creature's through their hearts. I've seen what they are, and have found them by nature or deed to be truly unforgiveable. Like any mortal villain or criminal, I wish to see these THINGS hang by a taut rope!
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>>4977091
>>4977104
>>4977098
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>>4977091
>These "Storms" ruined the lands of my birth and oppressed the people. From my birth I have been faced with their atrocious and abhorrent influences, and the contemptible deeds of their slaves. To bring prosperity to all of mankind, I must first chase away these fiends
>I see the character, value and inner morality of all creature's through their hearts. I've seen what they are, and have found them by nature or deed to be truly unforgiveable. Like any mortal villain or criminal, I wish to see these THINGS hang by a taut rope!
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>>4977095
>>4977098
+1
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>>4977095
>>4977098
them's some nice write-ins
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>>4977091
voting for these
>>4977095
>>4977098
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>>4977091
Because these beings are corruption and destruction incarnate. Everytime mankind better themselves, they will wither the heart of men, and see him kill his brethren forctheid twisted amusement. They prey upon the good qualities of great men, or of those desperated and abandoned, and drag them to their depths of hell. They are the opposite of everything that I stand for, as show by the journey I teach. And I believe that it's tge same for you Father, for since I met the first servant of their kin, they have called the son of the Anathema. And as much as I love my father Weynan, he wouldn't elicit such hatred by them.
>>4977095
>>4977104
Support.
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>>4977091
>>4977095
>>4977104
+1
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>>4977091
>>These "Storms" ruined the lands of my birth and oppressed the people. From my birth I have been faced with their atrocious and abhorrent influences, and the contemptible deeds of their slaves. To bring prosperity to all of mankind, I must first chase away these fiends
>Begin a brief recounting of your short but eventful life on Shangrala, explaining that you were in the process of uplifting its people and purging the servants of these spectral fiends that still taint its surface.
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>>4977095
>>4977104

I like this two write ins
Support
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>>4977098
support
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>>4977095
>>4977098
>>4977104
+1
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>>4977091
Supporting >>4977095 and >>4977098

Also, I wonder if Lieren can use his psychic power to illustrate just what he's experienced? Huli Jing, Nurgle and Isha, the Unseen Master and Kamal Kanan, etc.
> Try to share your own memories with the Emperor, that he might more clearly understand your feelings on both the vile daemonic entities and the two goodly beings you have encountered.
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It should be good to mention that we haven't just been fighting their physical forms, but their metaphysical as well. Providing the people of our home with guidance and virtue to starve these creatures.
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>>4977095
>>4977095
+1's
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>Write in: Father. Before we continue our discussion. I believe that we must bring in one other person into this conversation.My brother Magnus has been training me. It was the only reason I was able to stand so long against these creatures of such filth.

I'd love to bring in Kanzeon, Guo Zi and Blind Farseer too but I don't know how to make our case to the Emperor. Especially for the last one considering Leiren barely knows her.(We've never actually met.
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>>4977095
+1
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>>4977091
>They are parasites! and fill me with the same revulsion as cat infested with ticks, or a corpse bloated with maggots would! They feed on those I love, so I burn them away wherever I find them!
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https://youtu.be/XE6hkc51ugU

Lorgar you fucking hypocrite, I can't wait to kick your runtbutt around you ass
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>>4977091

these
>>4977095
>>4977098
>>4977104
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Calling the vote now, a bit early cause my sleep schedule is FUCKED.

Tell him your story, of shangrala, of the oppression of Gao, the tyranny of vipul, the madness of Yan and every seething injustice you have seen and stopped.: 13

"Be they spirit, thoughtform, parasite or simple illusion they are the worst of us and the worst of what can be":11

Their actions in subjecting the world that raised me to untold hardship and suffering alone would have made me hunt them to the ends of the galaxy but no. They go beyond even that": 7

These "Storms" ruined the lands of my birth and oppressed the people..: 3

I see the character, value and inner morality of all creature's through their hearts...:2

try to share your own memories with the Emperor, that he might more clearly understand your feelings on both the vile daemonic entities and the two goodly beings you have encountered.: 1

Because these beings are corruption and destruction incarnate...: 1


Father. Before we continue our discussion. I believe that we must bring in one other person into this conversation.My brother Magnus has been training me. It was the only reason I was able to stand so long against these creatures of such filth.: 1

They are parasites! and fill me with the same revulsion as cat infested with ticks, or a corpse bloated with maggots would! They feed on those I love, so I burn them away wherever I find them!:1

Total votes: 22

So Telling the emperor and Malcador your life story so far, as well as the "Be they spirit, thoughtform or simple illusion" write in wins

Writing now
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>>4978060
At some point I think Lieren should do some self reflecting and try to ease off on being some reliant on his eyes. There might be some scenarios where using them might not be as effective, and I worry that warp fuckery will make the eyes less than optimal.
Would it be possible to invest in a power field?
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>>4978107
He isn't completely reliant on his eyes. His fight against the toad dragon is proof of that.
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"The answer can be found in the story of my short life and the experiences within. What I have met and seen, what I have learned and stood against" You explain, kneeling down to rest your legs, as even in the astral plane, the sheer strain of your "tribulation" has agonized them with aches and mysterious pains from merely standing in place "From the moment I emerged from my gestation pod, I was faced with the damage caused by their influences, the taint they had spread had brought ruin to the lands beneath the poor rule of tyrants, the people were persecuted and abused to fulfill their every abhorrent whim and feed their excessively extravagent lifestyles. I awoke, nay was born upon a world sickened by this filth and their gospel of nihilists pleasure seeking. Noble Shangrala, was defiled like a maiden taken by the brutes who ruled her"

Your father sits before you, crossing his legs in a fashion more akin to how the Vishnu or People of the distant world of New Varro seat themselves. He says nothing, but motions for Malcador to sit besides him. Setting his open palms upon his knees, he motions for you to continue your tale with a subtle raising of his chin. Taking a breath, you return to your memories, your reminiscence painting themselves upon the ether around you like painted winds.

"A terrible fate I had beheld many a pure soul be subjected to, in the early years of my life. My first encounter with the corruption that had so deeply rooted itself in my home, came by the end of my first winter. I was not even a year old, when I met with a servant of one these brutes who named themselves noble. A tax collector by the name of Ling. He was an ambitious, greedy man, who sought to use my ability, wisdom and great strength to expand his influence in the court of his master. Gao Liwei" You explain, rage bubbling to the surface of your thoughts as you recall your first encounter with that corpulent slug of Gao "Lord Gao, was the foulest creature I had encountered in the earliest years of my life, even when compared to the mutated wretch known only as the Toad Dragon, my first encounter with a being whose corruption had physically manifested itself, and who I slew not long after I presented myself to Gao Liwei in his court and entered into his service as an administrator. A position I took to weaken his support base and do away with the worst of his vassals, so he would be undefended when the time was right to cast him from his seat and into his grave"

"Toad Dragon?" Your father asks curiously

"It is a long story, but it was the first Magical beast, as my adoptive culture knows them, that I encountered, as I used the wealth and influence, and alliances with the rare and few virtuous men and women who served the Gao Family to spread prosperity and punish the wicked and criminal men who had flourished beneath the reign of the Gao lineage
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"I connected their lands, spread innovations and made the once starved and poor people both flourish and thrive. In doing so I earned great renown as a Wise scholar, generous administrator and trustworthy protector of the common folk, and this reputation and the wealth it helped to generate for the Gao family, allowed me to utilize lord Gao's trust and misunderstanding of my nature to strike out against his closest allies and most fervent supporters"

You shake your head.

"The last of the Cui line, a great warrior who mistrusted me from the beginning and thought my efforts to ease the suffering of the people and lands was a ploy to weaken them against hardship. I entrapped him and others with a conspiracy against myself I had orchestrated, and brought death to them all. Cui Fu died beneath by my Guandao's blade. The Tao Family, however could be saved from itself, and in it I found talented and virtuous souls alike, as I had in the court of the slug named Gao. Though its then current patriarch could no be absolved or forgiven from the crimes he had committed in search of profit and influence, he died with dignity. One of his daughters would later prove to be a key player in achieving victory over the Yan dynasty to whom the gao were subservient, Tao Dandan is her name and her talents proved very helpful when I at last, after years of toiling and pruning the worse elements of the lesser noble houses and administrations, carried out my coup against my blind employer" You explain, as depictions of the doom of the Cui, Tao and those who deserved no memorial in thought flashed around you as if an unseen hand painted them from your minds eye "I killed him, trusting Yin Lei, the Black general and head of his armies to suppress any loyalist that remained in his capital city, Qian Xia the scarlet spider to replace any who remained as heads of their family, and Guozhi a mentor of mine to rally the people and bolster their hope. All three had once served Gao, and had proven to be of moral and upstanding character. Two other great lords fell that day, alongside many of their vassals and servants. I cleansed the palace of corruption, executing his kin who took after him, and protecting those who despite all odds still possessed pure and noble hearts. And then the true struggle began"

"Masterfully executed" Your father praises, able to see the actual happenings of the events as you speak of them, as he admires the depictions of them that flow freely around the three of you like rain fed streams "I am surprised you were able to resist the urge to slaughter those criminals at the first chance you had, but it was wise to do so"

"If I did so, the people would have suffered greatly and I would have no support. I needed to prepare them and the lands for the storm that was to come" You explain, knowing that was the wisdom he had implied "Despite Gao's greed, gluttony and lusts, I had brought prosperity to the region his family had traditionally lorded over.
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>>4978145

"And advance the technology their by several leaps and bounds. By time the Yan realized what had occurred, I had trained and armed an army with tactics, strategies and weaponry that made them all but undefeatable in the field of traditional warfare. It was in this war, and my later encounters with the lords who waged it, that cemented in my mind the evil of my enemies' way of life", it was only later that I found the truth, but the first time I beheld it, had little to do with the Yan nobility"

"Your story reminds me of the experiences of a close friend of mine" Malcador muses in a manner far kinder than he had shown you before "To an almost unsettling degree"

Your father smirked, and you knew exactly who he referred to. In a way, that made you feel a bond beyond that of kinship with your father, as if the distance between you had narrowed slightly through this vague connection.

"Their forces were entirely unprepared, and with the warriors and hunters I trained and the genius generals under my command, I crushed their armies and hung these lesser tyrants as I marched for the Capital of this bloated carcass of a kingdom" You explain with a smile "The Mao Family, was utterly destroyed save for a few children, by the superiority of my forces and the tactical genius of three men, Lai Song, Yin Lei, and Jinhai who now rules the reformed kingdom alongside Gao's own daughter"

Your father sat up, alert as you offhandedly mentioned your dear companion and brother in all but name. He glanced to his confidant and companion with a sly, almost smug expression.

"The Dai were unprepared, and their home was captured by noble and wise Jinhai in a lightning raid, before they could gather their forces as commanded by the old fox general, Yan Zihao" You say briefly "They gathered at the border between their lands and that of the honorable Kang family, who answered their call for aid. However, I met with the lord of the house and his sons, Dai Niu, and learned that he was not a tyrant like the rest. He turned his coat, The Lions of Kang were caught unaware, and too my great regret, I learned they to were not of the same stained cloth as the rest of the nobility"

"It had to be done" You father says simply "To win the war, as regretable as it may have been. An army lost to the enemy is an advantage not easily overcome."

"The Xue army, which utilized similar split force tactics as my own army, was overcome and its two wicked sons were executed or presumed killed in battle. One was a drunkard who offered no resistance to our canons, the other a lecher who is assumed to have died in the throes of passion beneath a saturated artillery barrage" You explain "But, the only way forward, to either the remnants of the Mao forces, or the Yan and their Graced Yin dogs, were through the lands of the Xue or Kang and the imperial army would doubtlessly fortify the borders they shared with each"

"And the third son of Xue?" Malcador questions
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>>4978148

"Realized the perversions and cowardice of his family and their masters, and took control of it and their lands after his father died mysteriously" You say with a dismissive shrug of your shoulders "He serves Long-Jia faithfully, and provides much of the resources to feed its ever expanding industry and has greatly expedited the technological and societal revolution I began after the wars end"

"You let him live? are you not afraid his line is corrupted in some manner?" He prods

You shake his head

"Tao Dandan, Long-Jia Daiyu formerly named Gao Daiyu, Yan Zihao himself, The Kang and the last of the graced Yin have shown no signs of being tainted by their relations to their villainous relatives" You say simply, locking eyes with him "Nor have all of their former servants been corrupted and ruined by their hedonistic lifestyle. I abhor to kill needlessly, it'd be foolish to purge all connected to these tyrants, as then I'd have to put the majority of the populace to the sword"

"And how can you be certain" He questions, you bristle and sigh through your teeth, calming yourself as your father nods.

"I am getting there, oh respected companion of my father" You mutter, clenching your jaw "And recall, I can sense the taint of which you speak, and see it seething in their veins! I know when a man is lost, and when he can still be saved if he has not damned himself by word or deeds"

Malcador nods, though you can see he isn't entirely convinced

"As I said, I wished to end the Mao's corrupt rule, and break the necks of the Yan fox and graced Yin Qilin, but the marshlands of Xue were a hellish environment, and the Kang would fight to their last out of spite for the at the time, assumed death of their Heir, Kang Yongrui, and the "Treachery I employed to best them at the battle of "The Treachery of the turtles""

"They sound like idiots" Your father said bluntly, clearly listening intently "If they honorable, why did they not join you despite the wound you dealt them?"

"Honor is a mysterious thing, but they fell in line when I mended their wounded pride and gave them a gift they could not refuse or take without pledging loyalty to the new state" You say with a dismissive shake of your head "But as I was relaying, there was no way to reach the Yan or Mao without risking vast portions of my army, so I took a route no one expected, and marched alone through the Bone devouring forest"

They both look at you like you've grown a third eye.

"And your people allow a strip of land named the bone devouring forest to remain untouched, why exactly?" Malcador ask

"Fear, superstition and the fact the last attempt to burn it ended with the complete loss of the expedition" You explain as your father nods along, a glint of pride in his eyes as he listens to your reason
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>>4978149

"I have tamed it, but allowed it to exist as the ecosystem that it embodies has as much of a right to exist as any other, but it retains its black reputation for devouring travelers and armies alike. In deed, I knew of rumors of the descendants of a Vishnu raiding party that had become lost in its bowels, and never emerged until I met them, and this Malcador, is why I am certain that all of those who I name friend and ally, are free from the corruption I have devoted my life to standing against and the forces which both embody and expel it"

"Oh?" Malcador questions

"Yes, for this remnant of the Vishnu, as barbaric as they were when I met them, has shown me how far their civilized brethren had fallen! They changed their ways, and joined my forces, after I aided them in besting their old foe and kinsmen who were mutated to take the form of tigers! And even then, as twisted as their forms were, I saw in their children purity, their hearts and souls were untouched by the corruption of their forbearers!" You proclaim, confident that this will keep malcador from questioning your judgement any longer

"Mutants?" You father asks "From your recollections, I can see they were cannabalistic, why did you spare the,

"They obey their chieftain, and he was controlled and turned monstrous by an outcast of the unaltered Vishnu, A sorcerer from their first tribe, named Vipul" You say with a grin as your father's expression falls "He used an odd mineral to worsen the degenerative effects of the tiger folk's mutations, sickening their minds and controlling their greatest warriors. He used this gemstone to grossly extend his own life. I delayed my march to do battle against this living corpse, and encounter true sorcery and the TAINT of the empyrean that you have tried to make me believe is nothing more than a natural force of that realm of souls"

Your father says nothing as Malcador bows his head

"Bugger" The hooded man whispers, as your father pinches the bridge of his nose

"He was possessed by that "Mindless wind!" Called it to reality in a gambit to kill me! it spoke and showed my visions of pasts I never lived, and futures that disgusted me, so I boiled them together in oil after a pitched battle! I believe unusual quantity of magical beasts surrounding his den, was caused by the gem stones, solidified energies of the warp AND THE PRESENCE OF THE UNSEEN MASTER!" You shout, anger filling your veins as you recalled your first encounter with spirits

"And what of this den?" Your father asks coldly "Lieren?"

"I sealed it until I could find a means to destroy the gems without spreading their influence further" You reply without hesitation, you shielded your mind from revealing who else you met beneath that treacherous mountain.

"Good" He say simply, pressing his palms together in front of his face "Continue"
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>>4978150

"The Mao fell as I told you earlier, and I learned the two armies the Yan still controlled were taking women and children to the capital and forcefully enlisting the men folk of their lands, taking what they could and burning what they couldn't of their own lands. Later, I learned they intended to slaughter them all to spite me and my allies, committing an atrocity unlike any other in history. Consigning countless innocents to fire and death. And I learned this, through their favored pet, Yin Aiguo, who was aided by another spirit! One who I know to have corrupted the Yan dynasty, their vassals and all who came before them" You explain, struggling to remain calm as the memories you allow to spill forth, surrounded you with scrawled depictions of your first encounter with Huli Jing, the messenger in flame "Enraged and disgusted, I rode alone to the capital, enlisted the aid of the misled Scholar Cao Yunru, who saved the city while I executed those monsters who masqueraded as men!"

All the horrors, atrocity and tragedy of the Celestial incarnation palace. From the defilement and maiming Luli and many other maidens suffered, the hunting games those poor men were forced to commit, the drowned prisoners rotting alive in the cannels, to the endless festivities and gallery of lunacy you encountered. And the princes who exulted in such filth and wickedness. The sixth, more slavering animal than man, the fifth, so prideful he looked down upon his fellow men and even children as prey, the forth who reveled and feasted while even the nobility starved and froze in their palaces! The third prince who turned living victims as paint and canvas to bring his grotesque fantasies to life in the medium of art. The last two princes, incestious twins who hid their cruelty behind a façade of an honorable martial code, and all the animals who served them and dared to walk and speak as men!

But then, the river of your thoughts calm, and those servants who rose up in revolt appear, standing in your shadow.

"I see" Your father mutters, as his companion winces away "I to, have seen such atrocity"

"the palace is nothing more than ash, but I can still see its gardens of torture and madness" You hiss "I wasn't even able to kill Yan Weizha himself, the spirit who led his line to decay in both mind and morality, took his life, twisting him into a mass of disjointed limbs, furred hided fat, and mewling pleading for deaths. And that spirit, was illusion or nightmare dreamt from a fevered mind, father! She has appeared in records and historical treaties, a name repeated across centuries! Huli Jing, a spirit hidden in numerous hosts, who sought to claim me as her prize and slave. I killed her as I killed the Unseen master, and she left this world in terror. Would you have me believe, a beguiler and ruiner of dynasties, who subverted the legacies of heroes and virtuous men was just a wayward collection of emotion?"
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>>4978151

"A thoughtform. Spun of emotion they were, but they were more than nightmares or superstition and to at last answer your question, father..."

Your father says nothing, but locks his gaze with your own. Balling your hand into a fist, you tightening it until it more resembles steel than flesh.

"Be they spirits, thoughtform, parasite or simple illusion" You answer, eyes flaring with the unbreakable will that has served you so well throughout your life and its many battles "They are the worst of us and the worst of what can be"

You rise to your feet, ignoring the pain that comes screaming back to your limbs as you do so.

"They are the force pulling us from order and turning mankind away from the joint destiny and sanctity of our people!" You roar with fiery vigor and raging fervor, shaking your fist in the air "They are the maws that being the downfall of all civilized and good! I hate them for they are the empitomy of strife and ruin here to drag any and all into the pits of chaos. But more than anything"

You slam your fist against your chest

"More than anything, I hate them because I love all men and virtues. Virtues these abusers of men utterly lack!" You say, on the verge of tears

Malcador turns to your father, who then nods.

"I now see, There's little risk in telling you the truth" Your father says, sounding truly exhausted "My son, Lieren. I apologize for trying to deceive you, and discount the trials you've undergone, but know belief feeds these...things, and empowers them. Knowledge of them is intrinsically dangerous, however you've convinced me that you have the strength of will and conviction to hold such knowledge. After all, you hate them for a similar reason as I do. They are parasites, who glut on the suffering of humanity. We both love mankind, and yours is a love so deed, it refuses to be blinded by appearance or relation, so I shall be frank with you, my son"

Your father places a hand on your shoulder and smiles proudly

"Your deeds have impressed me, and I am overjoyed you've seen this cancer for what it is" He says with a laugh as Malcador nods along in agreement

"If it wasn't for that strength, you may have, as we feared, been subverted by the forces of chaos, you know as spirits. But know this, child, this truth must not be spread" Malcador says, issuing a grave warning. You turn to address him, when your father surprises you

"Would you like to meet one of you genesons? The warriors implanted with your genetic code?" He asks simply, and suddenly you feel completely out of balance

"huh?" You gape
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>>4978154

What do you do, Lieren?

>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence

>Refuse the offer, but give a message to Dae-hyun, swearing to return to him and his fellows as soon as you're able.

>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"

>Apologize profusely, but give Your father a trinket to give to the Legion master. A small piece of jade, inscribed with the Null Denouncement Script

>Write in
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>>4978157
>>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
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>>4978157
Also
>tell the Emperor about how we can make the parasites suffer and bleed by reciting verses out of our book.
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>>4978161
Support
Also give the legion master the jade trinket as a farewell when lieren leaves
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>>4978157
>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>Write in
"I will accept of course, but i would like to know if would be possible to talk about more of our great foe in the future alongside my brother Magnus and both of you. Beside this, my people will soon be faced in two terrible wars against our neighbours, the Shuni and Vishnu peoples. I have thought of several tactics and strategies already, but both of the tyrants that rule over them are aided greatly by our foes, one is a formidable sorcerer perhaps one of the greatest in the world and one possess great technologies that it said reach the same heights of mine. What would you do if you where in my situation ? Which of the two should i prioritize ?"
show a map from our memories so they can see and develop a strategy
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>>4978157
>>4978161
Seconding. And Good Fucking Work Malal.
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>>4978157
>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence


>M-my son? I have children!?
Will I be a good father? I'm only 10 years of age, how do I have a son!?


I think if there is ever a time for lieren to ever have a little freak out then this is the perfect time!

As for how we treat our sons I say we go whitebeard with them, if they do us the honor of calling themselves our son's, then we shall do our damndest to be worthy of being called their father!
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>>4978157
>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
>Discuss "The Journey" with our father and his most wise companion Malacador. If thoughts give these creatures powers, would it be possible that our guide could help supress them, or would it be detrimental?
>Fucking hug our gene-son Dae-hyun and give him the charm. If we're technically a dad, we're gonna be the best dad we can be.
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>>4978167
Changing support to this
I was
>>4978165
Also still suggesting that we give "Dae-Hyun" the jade trinket as our farewell gift
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>>4978172
+1, but I think it would be less of a freak out, but an ideal opportunity to have a laugh.

>>4978157
Do we call Malcador uncle, or honored uncle?
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>Apologize profusely, but give Your father a trinket to give to the Legion master. A small piece of jade, inscribed with the Null Denouncement Script


I think the Emperor will yoink us all the way toward earth and we'll never be able to find our world before the war upon our people catches them unprepared.
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>>4978157
>>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
>>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>>Write in
Ask for advice in explaining what transpired to our followers. We have attempted to train them to defend against the foul denizens of the warp but if we are to not spread this information further, how should we educate our followers in their defence?

Offer the inscribed Jade to our father. A small bauble but a heartfelt gift to our father, before we meet in person when the time comes.
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>>4978149
>You shake his head
I know this is a type, but it is hillarious. Lieren just man handling malcador like a puppet.


>>4978157
>Accept
>Explain to us space marines
>Give them a trinket of jade null denouncement.

I feel that our knowledge of these charms should impress our father Emperor.
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>>4978157
>>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
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>>4978181
I doubt that. We could just ask him nicely to let us free our planet enough.

>>4978185
>Ask for advice in explaining what transpired to our followers. We have attempted to train them to defend against the foul denizens of the warp but if we are to not spread this information further, how should we educate our followers in their defence?
+1 to this

>>4978192
>I feel that our knowledge of these charms should impress our father Emperor.
The fact that we know what they are and how to replicate their effects, or that we "invented" them all on our own? I wouldn't think it was to impressive since Dad thought of it first and we've been essentially copying him.
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>>4978197
Impress him with our understanding of the charms and how the material strengthens the effects.
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>>4978192
>>4978205
No real point. The Emperor without a doubt understands them better and you are likely misunderstanding how it works..
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>>4978172
+1 after all that a bit of levity is needed

And yes, the charm should be given to our son, dadperor has enough bling
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>>4978212
It's not to the point of trying to make him awestruck or anything. We learned the charms from our cradle and even in this astral palace, he has far more elaborate and powerful charms around us.

But him knowing that we know it, is just a little "huh, he managed that" sort if thing.
As for how it works, we learned that jade and gold as materials conduct more resistance to the warp, as well as the will supplying the strength overall.

So a null denouncememnt charm written on wood is less effective than one written on jade or gold, even if we are the one supplying it.

>>4978214
Levity is fun, yes.

>>4978215
Mate, you just voted for contradicting options, so can you elaborate a bit more?
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>>4978215
>>4978219
>>4978157 #
>Write in
"Father if this truth is not to spread you had best follow our talk with one to Magnus for he to knows the truth of things. I am sure together we can bear this silence and make use of it by watching one another's back.

>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence

Sorry phone bugged on the copy
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>>4978172
>>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
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I think we need to convince the Emperor to let Magnus in on this because he'll deal with this alot but we have also already told him. Rather than sow possible seeds of discord later just get it done. Secondly two people means we can watch one another's back.
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So random interesting thought is that Malal has essentially hinted a fair bit over the course of the quest that Lieren is actually the closest in thought and actions of all the emperor's sons to the emperor himself, and probably the one most similar to him overall, if you ignore the whole multi soul gestault bullshit. The main difference is Lieren actually trusts his fellow man overall over say the Emperor who believes he must get shit done himself where possible.
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>>4978157
>>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
also:
>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
We should also get magnus eventually brought in on this since its literally the single fastest track to keep him from flipping sides in the horus heresy.
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>>4978248
Personally I prefer if that position belongs to vulkan, he did say that he was the greatest of his son's, and I don't want lieren to simply be the greatest of all, best of all the primarchs for all time.

We're weaker than magnus and some other primarchs who never bothered to use psykic might

We're never going to beat the lion/wolf King in a straight up fight

Ferrus and vulkan are our superior in the realm of crafting

I like that we're pretty much on the average scale of a primarch, we're amazing in our own ways but at the same time our brothers have surpassed us long ago

Except lorgar, fuck lorgar
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>>4978252
We were designed to be a generalist and were goinh even further in that by picking up psykery and actual social skills.

Were a Lugh who while not the best is 2nd to any of our brothers specialties.
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>>4978252
I didn't ever say he was the greatest of the emps son's, i mean hes just similar to the emperor in style and thought and how he approaches things. At the end of the day Lieren is the jack of all trades master of none guy except for his massive fucking hateboner for chaos, it's probably the one thing he actually has on on his brothers is his massive fucking hatred of chaos even before the heresy shit that would just stack more and more reasons to be perma assblasted about chaos.
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>>4978274
to add to this stat wise i'd argue we are literally the anti-lorgar, we are the other main socialite/diplomacy primarch and unlike lorgar we have a massive predisposition to hate chaos. At the end of the day Lieren isn't beating down his brothers but he and gorillaman will be the ones holding the imperium together after the heresy.
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>>4978252
If we're splitting hairs the "greatest" Primarch was Primarch Zero aka "The Angel." He had the abilities of all the Primarchs rolled into one package.

He was also a genocidal fuckhead who took the whole warp issue to its logical extreme and just decided to wipe the slate clean with a good old fashioned round of Omnicide.

Big E had to put him in the penalty box.
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>>4978172
this but also give him the piece of jade, if only as a "sorry i didn't make something more complex" apology gift
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>>4978157
>>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>Have a panic attack once you learn about your sons, and realize the explaining you are going to have to do to Kanzeon
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>>4978274
I think unbreakable will, true sight and our paradoxical soul are the greatest asset of Lieren.

If we cannot best our brothers head on, we shall do so from another angle.

Oh yeah, and emps.should probably warn Magnus.
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>>4978283
We should probs ask dad what boxes we shouldn't open given that's there and only one of the found things.
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>>4978312
>Half the list is just a picture of Trayzn with the caption "Currently in the possession of this fuckhead."
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>>4978157
>B-but Father, I haven't married Kanzeon yet! How can this be? Was it because we held hands?!
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>>4978313
The other half is stamped with a notice proclaiming "Property of the Blood Ravens"
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>>4978353
even tzeench is sick and fucking tiered of the blood ravens
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>>4978157
>>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>Have a panic attack once you learn about your sons, and realize the explaining you are going to have to do to Kanzeon
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>>4978148
>He glanced to his confidant and companion with a sly, almost smug expression.
I wonder if this is a "Haha, what if I made YOU emperor, Malcador?" expression or a "Haha, he doesn't want to rule so I know he won't rebel" expression?
>>4978157
>>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
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>>4978378
Imagine the match-making bonanza when Kanzeon tries to find worthy wives for her new sons.
> PantingVishnuMaidens.jpeg
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>>4978157

>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
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>>4978157

> Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence.
> Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"

I know that the Null Denouncement Charms work fine, but I wonder if it would be possible to create psychic items that resonate with the spirit of Arianka?
> inb4 Lieren's gene-sons experience visions of a celestial maiden of ice and fire.
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>>4978157
>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>Give Your father a trinket to give to the Legion master. A small piece of jade, inscribed with the Null Denouncement Script
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>>4978382
Wasn't the Emperor the one wanting humans to rule themselves? So he was smug because Lieren had the same idea.
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>>4978404
You might be on to something.
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>>4978404
That is the thing I remember emps wanting.
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>>4978157
>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>M-my son? I have children!? Will I be a good father? I'm only 10 years of age, how do I have a son!?
>Ask for advice in explaining what transpired to our followers. We have attempted to train them to defend against the foul denizens of the warp but if we are to not spread this information further, how should we educate our followers in their defence?
>Give Your father a trinket to give to the Legion master. A small piece of jade, inscribed with the Null Denouncement Script
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>>4978157
>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
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So I have a wondering.

First, is when is Ghuzai going to teach other people how to dodge death. Little minexiu the human maelstrom is almost too valuable to permit to be lost to death forever. And while I dont think we can learn it, given it relies on dodging the gods attentions, this then leads mr to another question.

Is Malcador also a practitioner of this art? Or is malal keeping him as a perpetual? Because he doesnt seem to age throughout the crusade, but violent death letting him slip to a new form is an interesting thing to consider.
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>>4978535
I honestly thought Malcador prolonged his life via big brain science and biomancy.

Generally Perpetuals were supposed to stop aging at maturity, though wrinkled old bastard Malcador being one could also be explained if their immortality is triggered/activated at the time of their first death.

As for Gouzhi, there's been a lot of discussion but Malal's been pretty mum about confirmation or denial, so he might be planning something awesome and/or potentially horrible for the future.

On my end, I'm wondering how the wheel of reincarnation even holds up on a galactic scale; Gouzi implies that he's lived 1000 lives, but who is to say all of them took place on Shangrala? He could have been a Techno-Barbarbar on Terra, or a sailor on an ocean world, or a *seamstress* serving a Knight House.
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>>4978549
>I honestly thought Malcador prolonged his life via big brain science and biomancy.
>Generally Perpetuals were supposed to stop aging at maturity, though wrinkled old bastard Malcador being one could also be explained if their immortality is triggered/activated at the time of their first death.
>As for Gouzhi, there's been a lot of discussion but Malal's been pretty mum about confirmation or denial, so he might be planning something awesome and/or potentially horrible for the future.
>On my end, I'm wondering how the wheel of reincarnation even holds up on a galactic scale; Gouzi implies that he's lived 1000 lives, but who is to say all of them took place on Shangrala? He could have been a Techno-Barbarbar on Terra, or a sailor on an ocean world, or a *seamstress* serving a Knight House.

I wonder if Space Marines permanently take a soul out of the Reincarnation Cycle. Might be something we'd hate.
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>>4978157
Backing this >>4978172
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>>4978549
His first life was apparently Dai Chen, the heir that abandoned tge throne.
The 1000 lifes bit is probably just flowery speak to mean a high number, instead of the actual count of ressurections.
And Malcador is a perperual on the new lore, because everyone is a superhero now, I still prefered if he was just a powerful sorceror that found a way to be immortal.
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>>4978157
>Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence
>Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra"
>Give Your father a trinket to give to the Legion master. A small piece of jade, inscribed with the Null Denouncement Script
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>>4978573
It's doesn't even run counter to the lore; plenty of nobility have ways to extend their natural lives, and all of the psychic characters seem to have incredible longevity (if they don't get nommed by a daemon).

Speshal snowflake syndrome is a blight.
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>>4978675
>>4978573
Making everyone important a perpetual just makes it less special. It was suppose to be a super anomolous occurrence that made people scratch their head.
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>>4978677
Ollanius pious is a fucking normie and I will have no heretical sayings that he is a perpetual!
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>>4978680
That's the other problem. It makes mortals less impressive.
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>>4978683
Forget making somebody look bad, it completely fucking destroys one of the best moments in the entire setting.
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>>4978573
>And Malcador is a perperual on the new lore, because everyone is a superhero now, I still prefered if he was just a powerful sorceror that found a way to be immortal.
Malcador being a Perpetual isn't something I really have a problem with. He was already a superhero, BL just decided he was around for much longer than previously thought. It doesn't change his character or relevant story for the worse like it does with Ollannius Pius and he isn't a shitty character like Erda. That being said, I don't hate Oll Persson as a character, but I don't like the Persson/Piers conflation BL is shooting for at all. The Siege of Terra books in general are mistake after mistake.
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>>4978695
If it was only him, than it wouldn't be so bad, specially since his past is all mysterious and shit, the problem is that it's happening together with turning a bunch of character into perpetuals, or creating new ones that are, so it taints the idea just by association.
Although I find the idea of him being immortal because of sorcery, technology, biologucal treatments or a combination of the three much more appealing, because it meana more that he was a resourceful man, instead of winning some genetic/spiritual lottery and getting to be part of the uberman big character shadow council.
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>>4978709
being a alpha (plus?) class psyker is already a lottery so him being a perpetual isn't bad..ish. and I get that perpetuals should be rarer than rare. it's just GW being GW and thinking it's dinner table is the outhouse in terms of idea. (other than Big E finding all the perpetuals that was around and bring them together would make some sense narratively which is why we know it's not the case for GW)

my personal take is him being one isn't the worst case.
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>>4978709
>the problem is that it's happening together with turning a bunch of character into perpetuals, or creating new ones that are
Much more the latter than the former I think. Erda is the most egregious example, I won't be surprised if she goes the way of fellow perpetual and Grey Knight Anval Thrawn. Lore-wise as well, the fact Perpetuals can be created is, in my opinion, a mistake in all cases except for Vulkan's. The Primarchs all just being an attempt at artificial perpetuals is, needless to say, stupid. But I do think it'd be neat if Fulgrim was also one, what with all the phoenix references.
>>4978738
>Big E finding all the perpetuals that was around and bring them together would make some sense narratively
I'm of a similar mind. I think it's feasable that that in 330,000-odd years, the scant handful of however many immortals would bump into each other. On an individual scale, I like that Oll Persson is an older-than-the-Emperor soldier and Catholic and that Alivia Sureka has been living a normal life with her husband and adopted daughters. John Grammaticus being a "young" Perpetual would be interesting and a nice contrast to his older fellows, rather than him just being resurrected and gaining perpetual status as a side-effect. He could've been sought out by the Cabal for his abilities, rather than recieving more as a result. The Cabal subplot as a whole could've been so good, but I digress. Malal can do it justice. Cyrene and Damon are perhaps two bridges too far, but it makes sense for the Cabal to recruit individuals with such power and Cyrene dying during the Destruction of Monarchia, coming back to life, and subsequently being resurrected is good, especially if it makes Lorgar's mental state worse. I'd just prefer if she was another young Perpetual and not made one by Erebus.
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>>4978801
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>>4978157
I support the freaking out over being a dad at such a young age
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>>4979188
>tfw your son is older than you
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>>4978172
+1 I could use a laugh after all that heavy stuff, but we really should go back as soon as possible
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we legit need him to have the funny reaction to find out he has sons
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>>4979304
Lueren already knows that he has sons, Dae-Hyun was there the first time we looked upon the Emperor.
But a joke after such heavy talk and trials is more than welcome, specially since we moat likely will return to the Vishnu and Shuni ready to attack and get our head.
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>>4979306
Catharisis and all that.
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>>4979205
>THE SPIRITS DID THIS
>HOW WILL I TELL MY AI-WAIFU.
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>>4979327
Just make a new one
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>>4978172
Support
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>>4979411
Changing vote again
On second thought this is a great way to relieve the tension and some stress along with maybe showing the emperor some tips in being a more caring father in some aspect to maybe prevent some future problems with our brothers
Still adding that we give our son the trinket when we part ways
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>>4978172
+1
Rather curious to see Big E's reaction to a moment of genuine levity - they were rare even back in 30K, let alone 40K.
I also really hope Kanzeon teases the shit out of us for this. "You have kids? You have thousands of kids?! Lieren - I know how to recreate some of the most devastating weapons in human history, and you had children without me."
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>>4979499
Hey, she does says that the colonists are her children in a way.
So that just puts us on even ground.
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>>4978172
+1, I want Whitebeard Lieren
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>>4978172
Biggest problem with this is it makes no sense since he knows about his sons and is incapable of forgetting shit. Most I can see is him wondering how that works rather than getting all flustered.
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>>4979594
Someone finally said it. We know we have "sons" because during our first vision of Big E, he said to Dae-Hyun that his father was watching their conversation, referring to us. Would've been cute, but doesn't make sense.
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>>4979603
>>4979594
I see it more of a joke than genuine surprise.
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>>4979594
It's a fucking joke man, I never intended it to be in anyway serious, I should have worded it better than freakout but in the end it's not serious at all
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>>4979594
>>4979603
I mean, I'm content to have it just be as either "Oh god, I'm actually going to meet them, what the fuck do I doooooooooooooo!?!" since knowing about them and meeting them are two different things OR be a joke to lighten the mood for Emps and Malc, enjoy their shock at a primarch suddenly playing the fool at the idea of meeting family.

Though the idea of hugging the legion master and him being utterly confused as to what to do is also amusing.
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Out of interest, this heavenly tribulation did nothing for our physical, mental or spiritual strength right?

When we were training like a maniac, we had the option of tribulation, so does a tribulation only apply to the thing leading up to it? Or is it like a level up, whereby you always get the next "stat increase" regardless of how you reach the tribulation?

I figure we probably haven't, but our body is injured so it's possible it could have and only reveal itself when we are healed.
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>>4979786
anon, we have literally gained the a piece of an order god's spirit we have (what I am assuming to be) a balanced soul now
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>>4979793
You misunderstand my question.

While I get the rewards we have aquired from our insane ploy to feed ourselves to the gods of order, I notice Malal say the reason we got the boon was "we fed her our life, and didn't die" while the "curse" was from suffering the combined ire of 5 gods at once.

So my pondering [not begging for further strength] is if the completion of the trial had any effect on our bodies or minds potency, through the utter bullshit we put it through, up to and including witnessing the caging of hope and smashed through the realms of the forgotten by a failed deity.
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>>4979798
We passed a tribulation, which it means we have upgraded our cultivation level.
Once we rest up, we will be much more powerful, and able to pull a lot of bullshit.
As long as we stop trying to go for instakills.
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>>4979815
Instakills are retarded and should fail spectacularly.

||We all know c-c-combo chains are where it's at.||
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>>4979851
Combos are fun to read too.
I'll admit, I did think our new knowledge of wuxing was underutilized during our most recent fight. I don't really have a handle on it, so I don't know what to write-in, but I think it'll really help us during the war with the Shunni.
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>>4979898
Be'lakor was undoubtedly Lieren's greatest opponent so far, so it stands to reason that Lieren didn't utilize principles he had dismissed for his entire life up to that point.
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>>4979905
>so it stands to reason that Lieren didn't utilize principles he had dismissed for his entire life up to that point
If we hadn't proven their efficacy and worth pretty much right before the fight and gotten their worth reiterated by Magnus both in character and OOC, I'd be more inclined to agree with you.
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>>4979898
Anons probably thought that the power of rocks were a meme.
But than again, they did vote to start monologuing in the middle of battle, so what do I know?
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>>4979908
But that's the thing, the worth of Wuxing was only made known right before we got sucked into Malal's domain.
We didn't exactly have a ton of time to really figure how to get the most out of Wuxing before shit popped off.
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>>4979911
>Anons probably thought that the power of rocks were a meme.
>But than again, they did vote to start monologuing in the middle of battle, so what do I know?
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>>4979915
We were given the option to utilize it. All options given by Malal are in-character. In a fight where innocent lives are at stake, Lieren wouldn't risk those lives by making moves he isn't confident in. Fact is, not utilizing wuxing was a failing on the part of the voters, myself included.
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Just realized that the cultivation stuff is probably influenced by Sseth
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>>4979942
Malal did say he started playing Amazing cultivation simulator after the video reminded him of it, but we were already on the path of xianxia long before that.

Does anyone remember at which stage Lieren was before the the tribulation? Malal mentioned something when talking with an anon, but I can't find anything on the archives, probably searching for the wrong terms. I want to know with we got that Nascent Soul stage, or if we are still on Golden Core Formation.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait, slept basically all day. No idea why I was so tired, but I'm awake now.

Ask your father explain these "Space marines" to you, and the events transpiring on "Terra":25

Accept the offer, and meet this "Dae-Hyun", who is the foremost amongst the legion of warriors spun from your essence: 29

tell the Emperor about how we can make the parasites suffer and bleed by reciting verses out of our book.:1

"I will accept of course, but i would like to know if would be possible to talk about more of our great foe in the future alongside my brother Magnus and both of you...et": 2

Relieve tension and replace it with levity by saying "M..my son? I have children?!": 11

Discuss "The Journey" with our father and his most wise companion Malacador. If thoughts give these creatures powers, would it be possible that our guide could help suppress them, or would it be detrimental?: 1


give Your father a trinket to give to the Legion master. A small piece of jade, inscribed with the Null Denouncement Script:7
- Apologize profusely: 1
-attempt to embrace Dae Hyun and give him a protective charm:1


Ask for advice in explaining what transpired to our followers: 3

"Father if this truth is not to spread you had best follow our talk with one to Magnus for he to knows the truth of things..et" : 1

Have a panic attack once you learn about your sons, and realize the explaining you are going to have to do to Kanzeon:: 2

Total votes: 32

>>4978168
Thanks

>>4979942
I mean I've been into cultivation novels well before I started the quest. If you've noticed, I've used terminology from them since thread 1.

>>4979951
The game is fun. Last time I played, one of my starters who was the only good builder some how annoyed an ox and it broke her skull open.

So Lieren willl accept the offer to meet Dae-Hyun and ask what exactly a space marine is and the events transpiring on the world of "terra"

Writing now

Sorry for the wait again
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>>4979967
np
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Of course, you remember the dream vision you had after you captured the former capital city and defeated the beguiler of dynasties after executing her latest set of pawns and burning away all of the filth accumulated around their abhorrent lifestyle and out of control excesses of the most foul and sinful varieties. You remember, that you were referred to as father by the man's whose eyes you viewed your father and Malcador through. The concept is strange, but not one that was unknown to you. You figured that since you were made and born through genetic tampering and advance technology than surely that would explain how you could have children despite only being ten years old yourself. But hearing someone refer to children of yours, is still rather shocking as you've never internalized the idea or really thought on the odd encounter since it occurred. And your father's choice of words and terminology reveals that you previous theory was correct and that that the "Sons" you vaguely understood you had, were made your kin by an alteration much like that which made you the giant that you are.

However, that by no means means you should not treat them as you would any son that was naturally born to you. After all they see you as their father! It'd be cruel to deny them on such flimsy grounds. They share your blood and know you as their father, who are you to decide you are not such. You know the desire they must hold, to meet their unseen forebear, for while Wenyan is your father you often wished to meet the man who stands before you now, who is also your father.

If they honor you by calling themselves your sons, then it is up to you to earn the right to be named as such! They truly must be great and talented warriors without peer, if your father holds them in such esteem! However, upon reflection, you realize your father specifically asked if you wished to see one of their number, which immediately brings a new wave of curiosity to your mind. What sets this son apart from the rest, for what reason is he to be gifted with meeting his gene-father before the rest? Is he injured, on the verge of death as you yourself were not long ago, is this a final blessing from his creator and leader to meet he who he reveres but has never met? Is it because he is the most like you, a gentle hearted leader of men, or perhaps a Wise scholar or cunning warrior, or perhaps all three simultaneously? Is it because in your father's eyes he has earned the right to take precedence over all others for his actions and deeds upon distant unimaginable battlefields. These and a thousand more questions bubble up to gnaw at the corners of your mind, replacing dread and exhaustion with a gentle excitement.

"I would consider myself greatly blessed to be bestowed such an honor. To meet he who deems me worthy to be revered as his father, would be a privledge unmatched upon earth or within the heavens!" You exclaim, placing a hand between your twin hearts.
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>>4980090

You've fallen to one knee before your father and his companion, to show the sincerity of your words and how deeply honored you feel to be even offered the chance to meet with one of your "sons" if even for a brief moment, to look upon him and know the contents of his heart and noble spirit. To give him a gift no other could offer to him, the acquittance of his father and knowledge of his face and voice. A treasure that stands above all the wealth of men, even that which they possessed when they ruled over the stars and colonized its boundless sea.

"Of course, you looked through his eyes as your own once before, did you not?" Your father chuckles "I should've known to not expect surprise or confusion when telling you something you're already aware of"

"I can act the part of the panicked young father, if that would please you, father" You jest as your father's gentle smile grows to become a warm grin of joy.

"There's no need to act a fool in my presence, Lieren" He answers "Let me personally introduce you, to the first and current master of the second legion, Dae-Hyun, who has more than earned his title of "The Bulwark of Humanity's future""

Your breath is taken away the moment you hear your father refer to your son with such esteemed titles. Truly he must've have done much to earn the regard of even men like your father, in such high stations and standing. He must be an incredible individual. You cannot wait to meet him, but then questions come to your mind.

"What kind of warrior is a "Space marine?" You ask as your father's eyes light up with realization and his smile turns over to a frown

"They are my finest warriors, of iron will and steely muscle much like yourself" He explains as Malcador shakes his head, mildly amused "Untouched by plague or disease, no sickness blights them. And no foe they meet may best them in battle. They are my bulwark against terror, are the defenders of humanity and they know no fear. They are the spearhead of my countless armies, and they shall be the legion with which our people will reclaim the stars, though now they protect Terra alone in the years to come, they will serve as the vanguard of a "Great crusade" to reunite a scattered humanity and reclaim our place among the stars"

"What kind of world is terra?" You question, curiosity now piqued "And what forces assail you and wage wars that require such warriors there? Be they alien or native? Has the world been reunited and all that remains are remnants of those who challenged your rule and vision, what of the other forces of your armies? What technology are they fielded with? What weaponry, tactics, stratagems and..."

"Malcador, could you go ahead of us and inform Legion Master Dae-Hyun of the meeting, I think It'll take sometime to answer all of my curious' sons many questions" Your father interrupts before turning back to you and stating
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>>4980091

"It is our birthplace, our cradle and our home, though in the distant past we named all of the galaxy such until a great calamity befell mankind and its countless worlds...
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Dae-Hyun stood solemnly before the ceramite memorial raised in the honor of the valorous dead. It had been updated by his demand, and often by his own hand. Each day, new battles were listed on its polished face and familiar names joined the legion of the fallen, recorded in near microscopic script and writing. Every soul consigned to the towering slab, was deserving of their own monument. It felt disrespectful to have their only memory be a name besides numberless others, their face, personality and actions all forgotten to time. How commandant Geum Gi died tearing the throat out of a devolved mutation of humanity, allowing one of the 2nd legions captains to terminate its master who thought himself a warlord capable of reclaiming territory that rightfully belonged to the emperor and his people. How she died in Dae-Hyun's arms, reminiscing about a time before he was an Astartes, before he had a purpose beyond seeing another day. Or what of That hard bastard, Takis Malelis? One of his own brothers in the legion, who despite being a new recruit fought with the same vigor as the veterans? Who will know how he prevented a route by charging the enemy's armor alongside a detachment of Creti Grave wardens, allowing the 3rd legion to reinforce their battered lines and bring fiery retribution upon the barbarians? And what of Major Nillo of the Ursine guard? Who died in a key operation that allow the imperial army to advance unimpeded through a rebellious city state by assassinating its would be high king?

Nillo didn't even leave behind a body to mourn and bury. Just his final Vox chatter, laughing as he was captured and surrounded by those who cannot think beyond daily survival, who spat on the sacrifices of men who died to protect them so they could revolt because one of their nobility felt insulted he wasn't given his own legion to command. What a jackass. How many died because he wasn't thrown to the wastes and left to rot.

Dae-Hyun, traced his synthetic fingers down from Nillo's name, feeling his day worsen as he saw the new names carved upon the face.

"Captain Borya" He stated sorrowfully as he noted the standard bearers presence amongst the deceased "How many battles had we fought, side by side?"

"Thirty seven" A nearby servitor dully stated, its electronic voice buzzing like a pest. The bucket of bolts wouldn't be able to tell him how he died, however the "Graffiti" That Dae-hyun insisted be left untouched and unaltered, did.

" "Trail blazer" Borya, died upholding the emperor's dream, We'd follow him into hell itself but unlike him, we'd remember to keep our heads down"

That brought a smile to Dae-Hyun's face, well the half of it that wasn't hidden by a stylized death mask.
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Even scarred by radiation and plasma, the grim amusement the legion master derived from the less than complimentary epitaph. There were many other's just like Borya's, even carefully written besides their name, or left on tokens taken from their kit. Some had thought to sneer at the tradition as "foolish superstition" or "Blatantly disrespectful". They often weren't able to speak it again if they did it in ear shot of those who kept the tradition.

However, the 3rd legion, their "little brothers" weren't among the number of ignorant assholes. In fact, a few even graced the plaque themselves, though their obituary's were far more respectful than the others. Dae-hyun saw to it that'd it'd be so. He respected the third, greatly, as they were like the second in some ways. They fought besides the baseline forces of the emperor's army and knew that diversity was a strength as often as it was a weakness. Though, they were a bit too pompous and "elite" for his taste to name them as "brother in arms" like he had so many other. After all, they were taken from noble stock and aristocratic backgrounds, unlike the legion master himself and many of his actual brothers. It had caused a little bit of tension amongst the ranks more than once.

And, Dae-hyun suspected that rift was caused by HOW they fought alongside the other elements of the imperial army. The second marched besides them, treating them as equals and little brothers and sisters. They mingled and bonded with them, like any soldiers sent into hell would, they were forged and wrought by the same fires and trials and ended up in the same graves. They didn't lead them, they accepted them into their ranks and adopted their ways and traditions. The legion wasn't so much its own entity, as it was just one corp of an actual army. They were more than allies, they were a brotherhood. There were no borders or separation.

But the third, oh the third lead. They inspired, they guided, and they commanded. Better than ignoring the rest of humanity or looking down at them with disdain or distrust, but it was the opposite of how the second treated them. If the second were fellow soldiers and warriors, the Third were generals, princes on horseback, Nobility. They did a damn fine job acting like it, leading from the front line and inspiring the ranks with dignified speeches and an air of fine breeding. They exceeded expectations, and did it majestically.

But, they weren't close. Weren't grounded. Who could claim a member of the Bronze Host, for example, felt the kind of kinship with the third as the second did with the Grave Wardens, Sheowl Rangers or Ursine guard!

He respected the third legion, even if they were more leader than soldier. They did a damn fine job leading, and commanding, but at the end of the day, they weren't fellow soldiers. They were generals, aristocrats, even if they lead from the front. He respected them, even liked a few of them, but some of them just rubbed him the wrong way.
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He knew he could trust them in firefight or scrap, but wouldn't play a round of cards with them.

Dae-Hyun chuckled. He doubted they'd even accept the offer to play a hand

"Hey scarface" One of the rank and file of his legion called out for them "Lieutenant Eiko on the grave list?"

He checked and turned to face the other augment, who wore a fresh scar from his scalp to his chin, with cybernetics replacing the eye it had cut through

"Can't find her if she is, hope she's not" The legion master answered, as the other marine nodded, visibly relieved

"I'll just leave my piece them" He said, holding a chip of his power armor between his fingers "lost sight of her during the last operation, so I got worried"

Dae-Hyun nodded and stepped back, to allow his brother by blood and battle to leave his token before the center of their "Shrine"

He sat it before the battle knife held by the captian who gave their force its now well known battle cry of "Valorous and Indomitable" . Captain Leonid, who was only part of the second by chance. He had been selected to be a member of The First, when the second was only starting its selection, and was found to have a better aptitude with its gene-seed. Dae-Hyun remembered how he died, still screaming encouragement and howling over the Vox. It was because of "Brother Leo" that they became so close with their "Non Astarte" brothers and sisters. His memory was kept on his standard issue combat knife, along with the others who died holding the line that day. It was then the tradition started, and that the "Mundanes" were given the same respect as any space marine

"Wonder when I'll take my place on the stone" The legion master mused. His jovial comrade's eyes fell

"You haven't met our father yet, can't die on us till we can see what he's like. Remember the oath we made with Leo" He replied simply

"Ain't got much left in me, brother. Ever battle, I leave more of myself behind. Will the old man want to meet a bastard son whose more machine than man?" He joked as the other marine stood and shrugged

"Who could know what our father will think of us, but if he doesn't respect you even if you're more cybernetics than flesh, he's ain't our daddy" He spat, smacking Dae-hyun's organic shoulder as he left

"I suppose you're right in that regard, but if I can't die neither can you" He responded, clapping his hand on his shoulder as well, before they parted ways and Dae-hyun was left alone, with ghosts and memories

And his heart fell as he noticed a fresh name engraved just beneath his palm

"Silent whisper" Lieutenant Eiko, She never made a sound on the field or off it, but the enemy heard her roar and knew her fury

"Damn" Dae-hyun said, silently mourning the woman who had survived the bombardment he had called, and bore the same radiation scars as he himself did

He balled his mechanical hand into a fist, and looked for something besides the memorial to slam it into, until he made out the scrawl next to the first epitaph
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>>4980094

"Last words: Not one step back"

It brought a smile back to his ugly face, and he laughed until he heard a familiar voice, belonging to one of the revered leaders of the nascent imperium. One of its highest officers, the right hand of the emperor. Malcador.

Instinctively, Dae-hyun saluted the man as he approached, even before he could address him.

"Sir!" He barked, like a good dog.

"Legion Master Dae-Hyun, I am sorry if I interrupted your mourning" The sigilite said with a voice that could send Dae-hyun marching into hell with a single word "However, there is a matter of which I must inform you, that concerns not only yourself and your legion, but its father and emperor"

Dae-Hyun remained silent, barely able to believe what he heard through the augmentations that had recently replaced his battered and dulled sense of hearing.

"Our gene-sire? Our father?" He asked, like a hopeful child "What's happened? Has he visited again, like when he looked through my eyes? Who has his mind inhabited this"

"Well, he's visiting. The emperor has managed to contact him through the warp" Malcador said gently, as if he were speaking to the child that Dae-Hyun seemed now to be. The legion master, hardened veteran of many battles, swallowed hard and became visibly ecstatic.

"An Audience can be briefly held, before he returns to the material world. Only one individual can be taken to meet him, as he has...been injured" The Sigillite explained, as Dae-hyun's glee shifted to fury "But should recover with ease. As the legion master, it was decided by the emperor, you should hold the privledge as you are the leader of his genesons and amongst them the most respected figure besides him"

"How was he injured" Dae-hyun nearly growled

"He has his own battles to fight, but despite his wounds, he's overjoyed to meet you" Malcador said offering his hand to the suddenly hesitant Dae-Hyun. He had dreamed of this day since he was made an astarte, since he learned of his primarch, since the first gene seed was implanted into him. To meet him, to know him, to even see his face before he dies is something he's longed for but suddenly. But suddenly the man with no fear, felt afraid.

He focused himself, steeling his resolve and reminding himself how many were not as fortunate as he was, and the duty he held to those who survived.

"Take me to him" He said, his own voice sounding so distant and foreign. Malcador nodded and touched his wrist. Dae-Hyun felt himself take from his body and cast into another reality. One of brilliant golds and gentle whites. He saw the familiar, heavily armored figure of the emperor, standing besides another.

And his heart nearly burst out of his chest as he innately recognized who it was. He stood taller than himself, his strength of body and mind clear from a glance. An aura of magnificence and imposing will surrounded him like an angel's halo. Just standing in his presence brought comfort the scarred warriors mind and body.
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>>4980095

His gene sire, his Primarch, his father turned to him. His eyes were the same gold as the regalia of his own father, and burned with a conviction Dae-Hyun had seen a thousand times in the eyes of his brothers. He was beautiful in a rugged fashion, Handsome in a gentle manner. He was stunning! Breathtaking! Awe inspiring. His face was scarred, in a far more complimentary fashion than Dae-Hyuns own scars. He wished to hide his face, to shield his father from the horror of his wounds.

But he could not look away, or do anything more than Marvel at the radiance and splendor of his father. His hair was like iron, or darkened Rockcrete, and it flowed long and untamed past his shoulders. It also framed a fresh wound, an odd symbol carved upon his noble brow. He was dressed in resplendent armor, made of emerald and white hued metals that brought to mind the uniform of the Sheowl rangers, if not for the gilded plates of gold, light blue and dark purple that decorated it in stunning scenes of wildlife and flora. Were these images of the world he had fallen to? Most of its surface was white, a stunning and pure white, joined to vibrant greens, blues and purples, like it had been constructed by weaving the minerals together at a subatomic level. And again a strange marking met him, some kind of flower engraved onto the pauldrons that graced his father's mighty shoulders.

"Father?" He questioned, stepping unsteadily forward.
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Dae Hyun, stood before you, taller and broader than any man besides yourself. He was dressed in simple robes, dyed grey. One of his arms, had been replaced by crude cybernetics and he was heavily scarred. His flesh had been melted on one side of the body, and would have revealed his skull if he had not worn half a mask of silver styled in the appearance of a skull. His organic eye widened, as its cybernetic counterpart narrowed. His hair was the color of a chestnut's hull, and was shaved close to his scalp. Even if "unscarred" side was maimed, scarred beyond repair, and you could hear a replacement lung struggling to supply his body with the air he breathed as he crept closer to you like a frightened child. Most of his skin was scar tissue, and snaked with augmentations and synthetic replacements for his heavily damaged flesh. Even his voice was partially replaced, and buzzed with an internal speaker that translated his other wise raspy, weak voice into a booming and commanding tone.

With his organic hand, he reached towards you cautiously as if he expected you to vanish if he approached too hastily or suddenly.

Just what kind of war had he waged that injured him so gravely? Its a miracle he survived to meet you. Your heart aches just beholding his visage.
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>>4980098

What do you Do, Lieren?

>Take the mask he wears off, telling him scars are nothing to be ashamed off, and praise him for his fortitude.

>Kneel before him, grab his hand and humbly ask him of the victories and glories he and his brothers have won upon the field of battle

>Introduce yourself, and state how honored you are to meet him and apologize you could not meet him in person.

>"Why! You remind me of my dear companions Feng and Zian! They too endured great hardship and survived wounds that would fell any other men. I hear you are the leader of my legion, and from a glance I can tell you are more than deserving of the position. Seems my sons are as strong willed as myself, Har!"


>write in
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>>4980099
>>Take the mask he wears off, telling him scars are nothing to be ashamed off, and praise him for his fortitude.
>>Kneel before him, grab his hand and humbly ask him of the victories and glories he and his brothers have won upon the field of battle
>>Introduce yourself, and state how honored you are to meet him and apologize you could not meet him in person.
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>>4980100
+1
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>>4980099
>smile radiantly and overjoyed
>hug the little guy, he's almost shaking!

>"if you are going to do me the honor of calling me father, then please be at ease my son, it is I whom needs to prove myself worthy of being in your presence"!


We're not formal with wenyan, we practically picked a fight with the emperor and denied his bullshit, we rough-house with Feng and jinhai all the time, even now that jinhai is emperor we don't hold back.

Lieren doesn't do formal or polite with family, we are honest in our affections and more than a little bit of a cheeky dickwaffle, don't be formal with our son guys.
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>>4980099
>write in
See the grief in his soul and hug him. He's gone above and beyond anything anyone has asked of him, and we're honored to be considered a father of someone so valorous, but he needn't be so hard on himself. His fallen comrades would chew his eats to bits if they say him like this, would they not?

>>4980109
Plus 1 being non-formal.
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>>4980109
+1
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>>4980109
Support.
But also

>Take off his mask and compliment his fortitude. Scars are nothing to be ashamed of.
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>>4980115
I would like to assuage him that his scars are the signs of a survivor, rather than a twisted freak. Because thinking like that has no place in our family.
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>>4980099
>Write in
Walk up to him and place a hand upon his shoulder
"You need never hide scars borne from valour and honour, my dear son"
Remove the mask and embrace him before pulling back.

"Ashame our meeting is going to be brief I am sure you have such stories to share if I could I would hear them all!"

Having pulled back keep our hands on the shoulders pull back a moment

"Forgive me, I am Lieren Hunter, Scholar and Tyrants Bane and as of this moment...a proud father to a son most worthy"

Cup his cheek a moment and look upon our child to know his truth, then just a nice banter
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Should we really take his mask off for him? Seems like an invasion of personal space. We should totally tell him that his scars are nothing to be ashamed of, but removing the mask should be his decision.
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>>4980131
If it conveys the same message, then I'm fine with it.

The actual removal of the mask is symbolic, the message it gives is the important point.
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>>4980172
And my I'd changed, yet again. I am
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>>4980173
Apparently retarded.

>>4980115
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>>4980100
+1
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>>4980109
>support

Don't know what everyone is smoking with this cup his cheek kneel down on one knee and make googly eyes at him while telling him that he's beautiful no matter what, sounds gay as fuck!

Honestly, we're not fulgrim
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>>4980183
You missed the point something chronic.

Our eyes and from the text, we are aware of his concerns about being less of a man, person and warrior through being that badly damaged he had to have his body fixed up with metal.
The response to such concerns, is to change his perception of them with "Yeah, you are mangled as anything but that's proof of being a survivor rather than a monster. Your fortitude is amazing".

Shifting perceptions and instilling some manner of pride about being such a tough bastard, which will serve them well.

The cupping his cheek and kneeling I could do without, but eh. As I said, It's the message which is important, rather than how it is conveyed.
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>>4980187
I know anon, maybe I just don't feel with these things, I love my dad but if he started acting this way I'd be seriously grossed out.

Though I'm mexican and we're really big on machismo here so I might be in the wrong, I don't know what kind of father's others have
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>>4980190
That's fair, different outlooks and thoughts benefit the thread rather than kill it.

My only objective with this is to clarify intent and hopefully it's effect.
The desired effect is strengthening his resolve and eradicating a doubt which could prove fatal later.

For types of father, I think Lieren is closest to what my family calls "the don". Being understanding and affable, but completely unyielding about the correct manner in which things shall be done.
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>>4980099
>>Kneel before him, grab his hand and humbly ask him of the victories and glories he and his brothers have won upon the field of battle
>>Introduce yourself, and state how honored you are to meet him and apologize you could not meet him in person.
>Write in
Tell him his scars are nothing to be ashamed for the sacrifices and deeds behind them, and that if he wants, he can take his mask off.
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>>4980099
>>4980109
support this
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>>4980099
>"Why! You remind me of my dear companions Feng and Zian! They too endured great hardship and survived wounds that would fell any other men. I hear you are the leader of my legion, and from a glance I can tell you are more than deserving of the position. Seems my sons are as strong willed as myself, Har!"
>Take the mask he wears off, telling him scars are nothing to be ashamed off, and praise him for his fortitude.
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>>4980099
>>Introduce yourself, and state how honored you are to meet him and apologize you could not meet him in person.
>>Take the mask he wears off, telling him scars are nothing to be ashamed off, and praise him for his fortitude.
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>>4980099
>Smile radiantly and overjoyed
>Hug the little guy, he's almost shaking!
>"If you are going to do me the honor of calling me father, then please be at ease my son, it is I whom needs to prove myself worthy of being in your presence"!
>Tell him his scars are nothing to be ashamed for the sacrifices and deeds behind them, and that if he wants, he can take his mask off.
Merging the write-ins I likedxinto one vote.
I also like how the armour we are wearing is looks like the one that one of the drawanons made.
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>>4980099
>>Smile radiantly and overjoyed
>>Hug the little guy, he's almost shaking!
>>"If you are going to do me the honor of calling me father, then please be at ease my son, it is I whom needs to prove myself worthy of being in your presence"!
>>Tell him his scars are nothing to be ashamed for the sacrifices and deeds behind them, and that if he wants, he can take his mask off.
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>>4980322
Support
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>>4980099
>Introduce yourself, and state how honored you are to meet him and apologize you could not meet him in person.
>Tell him scars are nothing to be ashamed of, and praise him for his fortitude.
>Humbly ask him of the victories and glories he and his brothers have won upon the field of battle.
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>>4980109
support
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>>4980099
> Take the mask he wears off, telling him scars are nothing to be ashamed off, and praise him for his fortitude.

And also this >>4980109
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>>4980322
i like it
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>>4980099
>Take Dae Hyun's outstretched hand and grip it heartily
>"Why! You remind me of my dear companions Feng and Zian! They too endured great hardship and survived wounds that would fell any other men. I hear you are the leader of my legion, and from a glance I can tell you are more than deserving of the position. Seems my sons are as strong willed as myself, Har!""
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>>4980109
+1
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changing >>4980290 to support >>4980109
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>>4980109
this
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>>4980099
Backing this >>4980109
>Ask when he is going to give us grandsons like any good father.
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>>4980612
Wait, that reminds me, Wenyan asked us the very same thing.
We should introduce Dae Hyun and Wenyan at some point...provided it's within the next decade.
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>>4980099
Two things I want to do is teach him how to channel Lieren and give him a copy of the Journey.
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>>4980725
Maybe teach them how make more of the charms, they are going to need it.
Shame we are working with time limit.
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>>4980648
>"Son meet your grandfather"
>"Why isn't he covered in gold?"
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>>4980099
>>4980322
+1
I like it
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>>4980099
>Smile radiantly and overjoyed
>Hug the little guy, he's almost shaking!
>"If you are going to do me the honor of calling me father, then please be at ease my son, it is I whom needs to prove myself worthy of being in your presence"!
>Tell him his scars are nothing to be ashamed for the sacrifices and deeds behind them, and that if he wants, he can take his mask off.
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>>4980109
>>hug the little guy, he's almost shaking!
Why’re you infantilizing a transhuman supersoldier?
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>>4981117
For fun?
And he is acting like a child, which he kinda is comparative to Lierin's transtranshuman supersoldier. If baseline humans are like feeble kids to space marines, space marines in turn are as children to a primarch
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>>4980099
Did Lieren's armor have a force field? Did Bela'kor's sword bypass the shield?
If Lieren never had a power field to begin with, what if the armor was modified to produce a power field when it's about to be impacted?
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>>4980098
The description of our boy sounds a lot like he's basically Darth Vader
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>>4981179
dosen't matter to leiren, he loves him all the same
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>>4981245
Yeah but he may worry about a son having asthma.
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Calling the vote now.

Take the mask he wears off, telling him scars are nothing to be ashamed off, and praise him for his fortitude.:5


Kneel before him, grab his hand and humbly ask him of the victories and glories he and his brothers have won upon the field of battle: 5

Introduce yourself, and state how honored you are to meet him and apologize you could not meet him in person.: 6

Smile Radiantly, embrace Dae-Hyun and state"if you are going to do me the honor of calling me father, then please be at ease my son, it is I whom needs to prove myself worthy of being in your presence"!: 18

Tell him you're honored to be considered a father of someone so valorous, but he needn't be so hard on himself. His fallen comrades would chew his eats to bits if they say him like this, would they not?: 1

"It is a shame our meeting is going to be brief I am sure you have such stories to share if I could I would hear them all!": 1

Tell him his scars are nothing to be ashamed for the sacrifices and deeds behind them, and that if he wants, he can take his mask off.: 7

"Why! You remind me of my dear companions Feng and Zian! They too endured great hardship and survived wounds that would fell any other men. I hear you are the leader of my legion, and from a glance I can tell you are more than deserving of the position. Seems my sons are as strong willed as myself, Har!"":1

Ask when he is going to give us grandsons like any good father.: 1

Total votes: 26

So the write in combo of smiling radiantly, hugging the battle scared super soldier, and stating "If you are going to do me the honor of calling me father, then please be at ease my son, it is I whom needs to prove myself worthy of being in your presence"! wins

Writing now

>>4981174
It'd cut through near anything. But it doesn't have a forcefield, but Kanzeon (or Lieren) can make it do other tricks, one of which you saw in the fight against Be'lakor, the generation of electricity and eventually plasma.

>>4981179
That's what happens when you tank a plasma cannon to the face/ everything, and later call in a nuclear artillery strike, while holding the homing beacon to lead a charge into enemy lines.

>>4981268
Asthma caused by having his lungs boiled on superheated steam rising from his own melting flesh and that of the men and women who shielded him from the otherwise fatal bolt of plasma
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However, it does not waver and soon soars once again with a strange yet familiar emotion. It is fatherly pride that holds your spirits aloft as you meet one of your sons for the first time. Though it knows as well as your reason, this meeting will be brief, it seeks to cherish every moment of contact with this brave hearted warrior, this man of unmatched valor, your son Dae-Hyun of your birth father's legion of Space marines. Dae-Hyun, however old he is, looks at you with the awe of a son meeting a father he has never known, returned after a long and tiresome war. His organic eye becomes veiled with tears as he looks to you with reverence and fear, the fear of a child who fears he will disappoint his family, his parents, and his father above all others. A familar warmth spreads across your cheeks, and flows down the rest of you.

The joyous comfort in being the company of one who you love. It inspires your curious smirk to curl and grow into a truly radiant smile that reflects the brilliance of the golden sea within your soul, and the depths of the love you hold for not only Dae-Hyun, but all of mankind. The simple gesture shoots through the hardened warrior like a killing bolt of lightning, visibly shocking him to his core and sending ripples through his mind and emotional center. It is a happiness so potent it could almost be used in the place of poison, gleeful relief, he is so overjoyed to see you smile his way in admiration and to be met with the mere implication he has earned your regard and approval after fearing he'd be met with scorn and disappointment alone that he is made to weep openly. His hand pulls away, as he hides his face with its mechanical counterpart, the speaker set in his throat shuddering with static as he attempts to swallow his emotions to maintain his composure and pride.

But as he retreats away from you, you step forward and completely close the distance that had grown between the two of you. With your mighty arms, you embrace him with the same tightness that the roots of a mountain embrace the earth. You bow slightly, to hold him closer and show him that the love he so clearly holds for you is returned with the same intensity. The blood still dripping from your brand falls upon his own brow, as he freezes. To stunned to move, his mind becomes blank with a potent mixture of confusion and blind jubilation. Cautiously, haltingly, he moves to return the gesture and wraps his arms around you as far as he can reach. At first his movements are awkward, but soon they are filled with both confidence and an almost religious sense of elation. Tears fall upon your chest, as his cybernetic eye closes completely. He shudders, but remains silent besides the whirring of machinery and servos nestled in his flesh and betwixt his bones. His cybernetic lungs hiss and wheeze beneath his chest.
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>>4981326

The joints of his synthetic arm grind from the exertion he demands of them in seeking to return your open and blatant show of affection in full.

All sense of formality, etiquette and decorum that he held before have been washed away, as it should be. Such things have little place amongst kin, be they a family of blood relatives or a family of close friends and companions. The two of you stand there in a near silent embrace, for some time. You, however, choose the break the almost sacred silence between father and son, to declare to Dae-Hyun your thoughts in a way that cannot be misunderstood or otherwise misheard.

Rising to your full height, you move your hands from his back to clap them atop his shoulders, and look him directly in the eye. Your expression banishing any doubts that your demeanor or apparent character are in anyway deceitful or false.

"Dae-Hyun, if you are going to do me the honor of calling me father" You solemnly state, though your expression remains both jovial and gentle "Then please be at ease my son, it is I whom needs to prove myself worthy of being in your presences"

He stammers, stuttering as he struggles to articulate his emotions into a response that would not sound insultingly blunt or excessively verbose. Malcador and your nameless father stand back, quietly observing the meeting, though you can feel the latter's bride wash against your back like the torrents of a raging river!

"I, can't in describe the joy I feel from our meeting genesire, nor can I explain how proud I am to be regarded as worthy by your eyes. Please, so I may tell my brothers, tell me your name, so we may know the name of our father and Primarch" He says, still half weeping as he release you from his own embrace and attempts to kneel before you in a show of his veneration and subservience to you "So they, even if they are not able to meet you themselves, at least know the name of their sire and can know that he takes pride in their actions and accomplishments, that he loves them as a father, as a general to his men"

You radiant smile becomes a glowing grin as you nod your head once and chuckle through your nose.

"There is no need to plead for such a thing, I know your name, it is only fare that you know mine. I am named Lieren, and it means Hunter in my native tongue" You explain sweetly, in a tone that Wenyan and Guozhi had often spoken to you with in your formative years "If it is not disrespectful for me to ask, may I know the meaning of your name as well, my son?"

You do not have long to reach true understanding with your gene-son, but knowing the connotations of eachother's given name should at least serve to strengthen the bond between father and son.

"I was told by my mother, in an ancient, dead tongue that it meant One of Possesses Great honor" He mutters, still choking on the sheer weight of the emotions brought about by meeting you even as briefly as he shall
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>>4981327

"A fitting name!" You reply boisterously, clapping both of your hands upon his shoulder "From a glance I could tell that you have more than upheld the intent of your naming, My father, the emperor told my briefly of the accolades you've earned through the victories you have won for him in the theater of war, and accounts of your indomitable courage and unshakeable valor"

Dae-Hyun begins to speak, but his presence begins to fade away, as he is taken from you back to the distant battlefields of terra. You were warned this would happen, that he could not endure an extended sojourn into the Empyrean and that for his own safety and well being, Malcador would return him to his mortal vessel before his life would be endangered by the seething energies of the Warp or the predations of its inhabitants.

You know the excuse your father's companion gave, from the worry you felt in your son's heart alone. That you were too injured to meet with him for long, and that you would need rest. A strange sense of guilt hangs over your mind, as you reach out to hold your son's hand as he reaches towards you once again, unafraid.

"If you have wisdom to impart upon him, now is the time to give it" Malcador dully suggests as your fingers fall through Dae-hyun's as if he was woven from fog and mist.
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>>4981328

What do you tell Dae-Hyun, Lieren? (there's only enough time for one choice to be spoken)

> Do not cling to life, or its joys, do not cling to life, or its sorrows. This is the wisdom I give to you. For your life will end, no matter what you do to prevent it or delay it death shall come to you someday. But that does not mean life is meaningless, all things must end, but that does not mean they never existed. Every action one takes, affects the future, changes the land, and inspires those who come after....

>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....

>Efficiency, to act without it, it is to act wastefully. A moment spent aligning a blade saves the hand from its edge, tending a fire removes the need to build another. Such is the balance one must have in life. For one can overwork and overthink, just as one can be lazy or refuse to ponder the world around them. Excess of either is foolishness....


>Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this is grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other...

>SWEAR TO ME DAE-HYUN, YOU WILL MEET ME AGAIN! AND I SHALL SWEAR TO THE SAME OATH, TO SURVIVE UNTIL WE NEXT MEET (Can be combined with other choices, as can any write ins that are similarly brief, if they're say Another lesson from the Journey like the other four, it will be mutually exclusive unless its surmised/ condenced)

>Write in
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>>4981329
>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
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>>4981329
>Learn from others, Ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner but learn from him. Man may change forms, but find that humanity and all may live together for a better future.
>Swear to me we shall meet again, and I shall swear the same oath!


Survive damn you! Survive until we can embarrass you in the materium with our fatherly antics!
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>>4981329
>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....

I got nothing, and I don't want to make him promise to stay alive for our sake, he's a space marine legion master, if we do meet him again it'll be a miracle and I'd rather he focus on his fellow brothers and men around him than on some promise to us.

Basically whatever you vote for please don't make him promise anything to US, if a promise is to be made then it should be that he enjoys the rest of his days with those he loves at his side


Also damn Malal, I teared up a bit, even with all those spelling mistakes
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>>4981339
Anyway, the lesson we give the legion master will forge our legions image immensely.

So I feel it is important to have them understand the most fundamental basis of our philosophy, which is either that all life has intrinsic value or dont shun others for appearing different, shun them for being evil.

While all life having value is important, I feel that them always striving to learn and adopt lessons from others serves the legion better as both a war machine and people, since by always trying to understand we can easily elaborate on the reason being because all life is worth being understood.

>>4981342
A fair point. Any better idea for an oath?
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>>4981329
>>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
Learning from others is tempting though, especially since we know he feels conflicted about the third legion... but Lieren doesn't know that.
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>>4981329
>Efficiency is vital but one must remember that it serve humanity rather than the reverse.
>Compassion for life is good and commendable but it must be remember that it is natural to kill another that threatens your survival.
>Knowledge is always important but is both a curse and blessing to those that bear it.
>While death is evitable it should not be feared for your actions may change the future itself.
>Regardless I expect you to survive until we meet again.
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>>4981346
Please Dae-Hyun, love and nurture humanity in my stead whilst I am not there, protect them Please.

I think asking it like a favor would be more in line than making him swear an oath
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>>4981329
>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
I'm not gonna try and push him into a promise he can't keep.
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>>4981329
>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
>SWEAR TO ME DAE-HYUN, YOU WILL MEET ME AGAIN! AND I SHALL SWEAR TO THE SAME OATH, TO SURVIVE UNTIL WE NEXT MEET.

Best to encourage the legion humanitarian approach, the great crusade is damn bloody affair, and Lieren might not take it well even if he will understand how it is necessary evil.
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>>4981329
>>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
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>>4981383
Humanitarian stuff is fucking deadly in 40k since there are too many that will betray or exploit that kindness.
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>>4981346
>So I feel it is important to have them understand the most fundamental basis of our philosophy, which is either that all life has intrinsic value or dont shun others for appearing different, shun them for being evil.
But that's wrong. If it so fundamental Lieren wouldn't have killed so many. The real fundamental basis is "balance and moderation" which is why Chaos hates it so much since they revel in discord and extremes.
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>>4981329
>>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
>>Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this is grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other...
I know there are more tenants than that, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. I don't suppose someone could make a pastebin?
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>>4981329
>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
>SWEAR TO ME DAE-HYUN, YOU WILL MEET ME AGAIN! AND I SHALL SWEAR TO THE SAME OATH, TO SURVIVE UNTIL WE NEXT MEET (Can be combined with other choices, as can any write ins that are similarly brief, if they're say Another lesson from the Journey like the other four, it will be mutually exclusive unless its surmised/ condenced)
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>>4981351
Voting for anti-chaos.
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>>4981329
>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....

>Write in oath
"Live long and prosperous my son. "

Lol, you guys think emps was a star-warsfag or star-trekfag
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>>4981329
Compassion/from the farmer
Learn from others.
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>>4981329
>>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
>>Write in
Press into his hand the Jade Amulet. A parting gift from father to son.
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Isn't malal saying that we only have enough time for a single journey quote and a quick promise?

>Can be combined with other choices, as can any write ins that are similarly brief, if they're say Another lesson from the Journey like the other four, it will be mutually exclusive unless its surmised/ condenced)

To me it sounds like the people voting multiple journey quotes are just throwing away their vote.

Am I wrong?
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> Do not cling to life, or its joys, do not cling to life, or its sorrows. This is the wisdom I give to you. For your life will end, no matter what you do to prevent it or delay it death shall come to you someday. But that does not mean life is meaningless, all things must end, but that does not mean they never existed. Every action one takes, affects the future, changes the land, and inspires those who come after....
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>>4981525
>unless its surmised/ condenced
Which nobody seems to understand. Then again most people are voting for "everyone is equal" option which could very well end with most of our legion dead while voting to make him promise to meet us again without a hint of irony. I seriously wonder if this is the same playerbase.
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>>4981329
>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
>Swear to me we shall meet again, and I shall swear the same oath!
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>>4981407
Changing to just
>>>Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this is grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other...
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>>4981329
>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
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>>4981399
That's not wrong. The journey is lieren's world view and his world view is that all men are equally valuble and should experience/help spread prosperity.

He is also a pragmatist, in that if one of these valuable things is going to make life miserable for tens or thousands of other equally valuable things, he's going to kill/eradicate as few of them as he can to get what he wants.

Like. . Gao is pretty much the only man I think he ever dispised completely and utterly
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>>4981329
>The key to life is balance. To lose yourself in a emotions or a simple path is to become undone. Do not be afraid to learn form others, but know that are something that must be unchanged. Do not fear death, for it's inevitable, but still appreciate life. Know that everyman is equal in worth, but to ignore each ones talents is to waste them. Know that perfection is unreacheable, but still strive to better yourself. Always be willing to fight for a good cause, but never do it for violence sake. Be willing to overthrown a tyrant, but understand the importance of order and society. And above all, kbow that to love humanity, you must also love yourself.
That should be all of the journey condensed.
>>4981562
>>4981392
Calm down anon, the evryone is equal is something that our legion already has, it's not going to completly fuck them over, probably only is going to make them take a hardline stance on it.
It's not the beat choice, but not game ending like you think it would.
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>>4981329
>>The key to life is balance. To lose yourself in a emotions or a simple path is to become undone. Do not be afraid to learn form others, but know that are something that must be unchanged. Do not fear death, for it's inevitable, but still appreciate life. Know that everyman is equal in worth, but to ignore each ones talents is to waste them. Know that perfection is unreacheable, but still strive to better yourself. Always be willing to fight for a good cause, but never do it for violence sake. Be willing to overthrown a tyrant, but understand the importance of order and society. And above all, know that to love humanity, you must also love yourself.
Going with this one
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>>4981599
Fits well enough. Not exactly covering everything properly, but hey.

Changing my vote here >>4981339
to this one.
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No oath, oath bad, oath is for poopooheads
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>>4981597
But it's terrible advice for warriors that fight on the battlefield. Lieren actively avoids open battlefields for a reason, battlefields are where idealism goes to die. All of the tenets are meant to work in conjunction with each other not in a vacuum.
With that out of the way Space Marine pose a unique problem to the Journey in that they are genuinely superior to the average human and tend to hang on to their Primarch's words with fanatical determination rather than the meaning behind them. I'm approaching them with the belief they will enforce Lieren's word then merely follow it because that's how they are designed or at least seem to. The firstborns are thankfully the least retarded in this aspect we have no idea how long it'll be until we're found and we can personally set them straight. I'm personally expecting a shit show to result from all of the options just a different flavor for each.
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>>4981329
>>Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this is grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other...
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>>4981329
>>The key to life is balance. To lose yourself in a emotions or a simple path is to become undone. Do not be afraid to learn form others, but know that are something that must be unchanged. Do not fear death, for it's inevitable, but still appreciate life. Know that everyman is equal in worth, but to ignore each ones talents is to waste them. Know that perfection is unreacheable, but still strive to better yourself. Always be willing to fight for a good cause, but never do it for violence sake. Be willing to overthrown a tyrant, but understand the importance of order and society. And above all, know that to love humanity, you must also love yourself.

Also for the love of the God-Emperor don't ask Dae-Hyun to stay alive for us. He feels half tin can already. If we support that 10:1 he'll become a dreadnaught barely clinging to life, and avoiding death when it comes is against the journey.

Can we just say something like "though our time was short, it was an blessing to meet you, I shall hope to see you again but if we don't meet may you live well protecting the innocent and brothers" or some rot like that.
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>>4981609
Supporting
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>>4981328
> Learn from others, ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner, but learn from him. Do not fear the unknown, but embrace it. Every meeting is a chance to gain understanding, and this is grander wisdom than any text can give you. For the knowledge gained from knowing your fellow man, from mingling with them and learning from them, is a far greater gift than any other...
> Press the jade talisman into his hand.

>>4981631
You're not wrong, though I don't think Malal is going to blatantly write the Second Sons like that when we've already seen them behave in a very competent fashion while still retaining their human empathy.

I think a VERY important piece of archeotech to preserve for the Legion will be the Lotus Staff and Memory Cores. Through them, future Astartes will be able to learn from the stored information passed down by their elders, but also the valuable emotional memories that you won't see in some stale Administratum record. All that would need to be done is to reinforce the ideal that innovation and non-linear thinking is just as important as studying past Legion strategy/tactics.
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>>4981609
+1, condensed Journey seems good
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>>4981609
+1 Support
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>>4981609
I'll throw some support behind this.
>>4981782
Well you aren't either but we both don't know what the future holds.
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>>4981329
backing this >>4981599
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>>4981599
backing, nice and succinct.
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>>4981599
Also this. Really I'm fine with any of the current write-ins.
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>>4981599
Support
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>>4981599
+1
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>>4981599
Adding
> Press the jade talisman into his hand.
To my vote. I didn't think we still could do it, but Lieren wears one at all times, so there's a possibility.
>>4981994 #
>>4982029 #
Hey anon, you support the same write-in twice, just linking to the different votes.
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>>4982049
Okay than. Kind of distracted rn
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>>4981599
I will back this, seems to be missing efficiency so add something like
>always act with efficiency but do not overwork or overthink
somewhere in the middle of that.
If we are going for all the main tenants condensed, can anyone think of anything missing? I think we decided on eight way back and we have eight total when we add in efficiency.
>Press the jade talisman into his hand.
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>>4982079
I mixed efficiency with equality, hence the waste of talents part.
That one is missing the respect nature but still industrialize lesson, but it's honestly the less important one, speciality for when the legion is still of Terra, instead of crusading and administrating worlds.
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>>4981609
Support
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>>4981599
That bit about being willing to overthrow a tyrant seems kinda odd though, as two of the three people Dae-Hyun takes orders from are right next to us. The reason I like the "Learn from others option" is because it'll open our marines to learning from their cousins. Sending envoys to learn from the other legions an idea pitched in the early days of the quest.
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>>4982097
It's quite obvious that if those two were tyrants we wouldn't be speaking with them. He just explained how he had to put down a rebellion because some shithead noble though that he should be the one to lead a legion instead of someone competent, he's a smart boy, he will understand.
The learn of others is a bit too much though, because it doesn't have a question it caveat to it, there's a differencae between aending an envoy and learning about their way, and just straight up just changing everything that ypu do because aomeone does something new.
The last 4 before the tyrant were lessons against giving in to chaos, I thought it a new one would be nescessary too with the ressurection of Malal
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>>4982116
>It's quite obvious that if those two were tyrants we wouldn't be speaking with them
Are you a lorelet or something? The Emperor is a tyrant by definition. Lieren, not being omniscient, doesn't know everything he's done to unify Terra. Hell, he barely knows anything about his father's methods.
>He just explained how he had to put down a rebellion because some shithead noble
Yes, he put down a rebellion. Emphasis on "put down." One puts down someone vying for more power, one overthrows someone who already has that power.
>The learn of others is a bit too much though, because it doesn't have a question it caveat to it
I thought you thought Dae-Hyun was smart? He isn't going to make the IInd a carbon-copy of another legion because we told him that everyone has something to teach everyone else. He isn't gonna look over to the IVth, see them sending their men into a thresher, and think "Oh, dad told me to learn from others, I guess we should start not adjusting our strategy based on the situation we're in."
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.... I have strong Lamenter vibes. This bodes ill. I worry our sons shall take their place.

Can the journey survive against the rangdan xenocides?
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>>4981609
>>The key to life is balance. To lose yourself in a emotions or a simple path is to become undone. Do not be afraid to learn form others, but know that are something that must be unchanged. Do not fear death, for it's inevitable, but still appreciate life. Know that everyman is equal in worth, but to ignore each ones talents is to waste them. Know that perfection is unreacheable, but still strive to better yourself. Always be willing to fight for a good cause, but never do it for violence sake. Be willing to overthrown a tyrant, but understand the importance of order and society. And above all, know that to love humanity, you must also love yourself.


a condensed version of the journey seems fitting
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>>4981329
>>>The key to life is balance. To lose yourself in a emotions or a simple path is to become undone. Do not be afraid to learn form others, but know that are something that must be unchanged. Do not fear death, for it's inevitable, but still appreciate life. Know that everyman is equal in worth, but to ignore each ones talents is to waste them. Know that perfection is unreacheable, but still strive to better yourself. Always be willing to fight for a good cause, but never do it for violence sake. Be willing to overthrown a tyrant, but understand the importance of order and society. And above all, know that to love humanity, you must also love yourself.
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>>4982133
Maybe. Those were some grimdark times even by 40k standards.
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>>4982133
>Can the journey survive against the rangdan xenocides?
Primarchs and legions didn't in canon. What chance does a reasonable philosophical system have?
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>>4982126
It's exactly because Lieren doesn't know that the emperor has done that he could be called a tyrant, Dae-Hyun will just take it as Lieren being ok with his father as a tell that he has judged him as not a tyrant. We will deal with Lieren finsing out the truth another day.
I don't know what the fuck you are on the whole put down thing, are trying to say that Lieren doesn't like imperial rule and nobility? Have you read the past threads?
And I'm not even going to bother trying to discuss with you about the legion thing, you decided to read a completly different argument that has nothing to do what a said, it's just not worth the effort.
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>>4982184
You forget the fact that it's compounded in a book and that Lieren is an incredibly influential figure to an entire legion.
The Journey will survive, but only as a bastardized version that's willfully misinterpreted so as to justify whatever people want to do at the time.
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>>4982224
>It's exactly because Lieren doesn't know that the emperor has done that he could be called a tyrant
This doesn't make any sense. Lieren doesn't make judgements without evidence. He has not seen anything to make him assume Big E is a tyrant, so why, or indeed how, would he know him to be one?
>Dae-Hyun will just take it as Lieren being ok with his father as a tell that he has judged him as not a tyrant.
You can only accurately judge someone as something after knowing all the facts. What Lieren is doing is assuming.
>I don't know what the fuck you are on the whole put down thing,
I'm trying to explain to you that supressing a rebellion and leading one are not the same. Speaking of supressing rebellions, I can't find where you think Dae-Hyun told us anything about his role in suppressing noble-led coup attempts in a legion. The closest thing I could find is his inner monologue about how haughty the IIIrd is as a result of their noble background.
>are trying to say that Lieren doesn't like imperial rule and nobility?
I don't know how you could've gotten that impression.
>And I'm not even going to bother trying to discuss with you about the legion thing,
You haven't bothered discussing anything intelligibly, why should you start now?
>you decided to read a completly different argument that has nothing to do what a said
You said that there's a difference between sending an envoy to learn from other legions and completely overhauling a legion's tactics on a whim. No shit. I said that such a thing is unlikely. This is because, firstly, Dae-Hyun isn't a retard, and secondly, because wisdom and understanding are central to the relevant tenant of the Journey. Wisdom and undestanding, which will prevent uncontrolled, radical upheaval in our legion's tactics. There's the caveat you were looking for.
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>>4982224
Leiren can see the nature of things. He sees his father as what he is. A man forced to make hard decisions. I wonder if this changes after the Xenocides.
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>>4981599
+1 I love our sons
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>>4982265
"And what of Major Nillo of the Ursine guard? Who died in a key operation that allow the imperial army to advance unimpeded through a rebellious city state by assassinating its would be high king?

Nillo didn't even leave behind a body to mourn and bury. Just his final Vox chatter, laughing as he was captured and surrounded by those who cannot think beyond daily survival, who spat on the sacrifices of men who died to protect them so they could revolt because one of their nobility felt insulted he wasn't given his own legion to command. What a jackass. How many died because he wasn't thrown to the wastes and left to rot."

That was my bad, it was another brother that had died, but the thoughts of Dae-Hyun fits into the way Lieren thinks about tyranny and bad rulers anyway.
I'm going to follow my own advice now and not bother with the rest of the conversation.
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>>4981507
changing my vote to
>The key to life is balance. To lose yourself in a emotions or a simple path is to become undone. Do not be afraid to learn form others, but know that are something that must be unchanged. Do not fear death, for it's inevitable, but still appreciate life. Know that everyman is equal in worth, but to ignore each ones talents is to waste them. Know that perfection is unreacheable, but still strive to better yourself. Always be willing to fight for a good cause, but never do it for violence sake. Be willing to overthrown a tyrant, but understand the importance of order and society. And above all, know that to love humanity, you must also love yourself.
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It would be funny if we ended up being Lorgar's mirror. A psyker promoting a book.
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>>4981329
>From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value. Every man is equal in this regard. Talent, Title, ability and form mean add and subtract nothing from this value. It is inborn in every life, no matter the creed, race, code, belief, or standing of said life. None may remove this value, and none may debase it....
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>>4982626
Lieren's Journey, Guilliman's Codex Astartes and Lorgar's Lectitio Divinatus.
Which space book will win?
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Another batch of images.
I based it upon a meme i made in previous threads, specifically the end of the journey rebellion in the celestial palace, the meme was based on the description of their armors.
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The armors and weapons of the Yan royalty has always been ostentious and rich, albeit strangely old depictions of the founder of the dynasty show a more simple style that was replaced by his successors.
The traditional war masks of the Yan people usually depicted the symbols of their house, as well scenes of war and feasts. In the case of the Yan royalty and troops, their war masks depicted an angry fox ready for bite.
Gold is used in most of the armor, both for decorations as well by gilding steel. Multiple gems are displayed, and an high quality Three Tailed Fox pelt is attach to the back. A sash fine silk as well a fox tail envelop the pelvis.
A strange and malign symbol is proudly displayed on the shoulder straps. This symbol has been consider as a sign of an evil spirit, and it s know it was used personally by the devious Yuli Jing the so called "Mistress of flames". And for many the suspected shadow ruler of the kingdom by many many years
Not much is left of the original prince armor, besides a few pieces left from his brief duel alongside his twin lover and sister against the Gentle Giant.
Let us hope that such champion of debuchery and corruption never, return on Shangrila.
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>>4982662
Someone should make a dawn of war mod for this quest.
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The order of the wanderers, doesn't have.... a proper uniformation of their style of clothing. It does in fact change wildely, as it s original members and it s recruits bring their own experience, culture and of course style of clothing with them. Ex priests, tribe shamans, self proclaim witch-hunters, sages, soldiers that had found to posses powers, "mages" and lastly ordinary people. The amalgamation of this people under the guidance of Lord Lieren and Grandmaster Guozhi (the only alive and last member know of the Dai monks), has prove at times difficult. After all with the recruits being the first of this order, they will inevitably shape it for future generations to come. So even something simple as their style of clothing it s important, and that needs to be thought of.
Solutions where found with time, and more practical examples with the order participation (a participation that became essential with the passing of time for the army), in the wars for freeing Shangrila.
Each monk would have been able to keep and express fully it s individuality and style after they reached the title of core disciple, until then they would have wear simple clothing in the monastery and when marching to war they would wear this particular battle garment. It is an armor of steel and leather enveloped by long light clothing of vegetal fibers, and a long hat of oxen leather on top of their head. As is traditional with the Long Jia military and all its predecessors, even this battle garment posses a war mask of it s own.

The clothing is adorned with the symbols of the order, as well numerous scenes of nature and peace. It said that the order bathes it s clothing in a particular oil, during clear nights when the moonlight rays touch it and there they begin to chant a calm and solemn hymn. Charms and paper with inscriptions for fend off evil and malign spirits are attached to it. Often it has the symbol of the fallen hero Chen, as this great example of man is considered has a protector and patron of the monastery and Shangrila as a whole.

It s interesting to know that in part this battle garment was somewhat inspired by the dresses the defunct Dai Monks had wear in the past. Of the Dai monks, not much is know anymore. Has their monastery was ransacked, burn and defile and they themselves where for the most slaughter or executed in mass. The reason this happen was officially "Inciting rebellion across the people, Disrespect of the Yan rule and authority, Disobedience of the kingdom laws and Doubting the will of the heavenly courts" of course all of this charges where for the most false, the Dai Monks had helped villagers and the common men across the Dai province, opposed injustices and abuses of power and doubted that the Yan had a true "mandate of heaven" with their unbelievable actions and excessive spending that could been redirect on multiple actions towards more just purposes.
cont.
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>>4982670
It’s dead Jim.
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>>4982670
You can customized the colours for DW1 and 2 soace marines, anons have dropped everything that you need in the past threads.
Unless you making an entire Shangrala faction based on the arnour and units, in which case it would be way harder.
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>>4982679
thats what im talking about. A full blown mod.
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>>4982673
The Yan before they purged them, had given a few violent calls followed by mass executions and imprisonments to stop their activities and chase their insubordination, as well allow them to enter and pay visit to the monastery (which was an excuse for attempt to sack the place and drive out the order in the wild mountains and valleys, so that bandits or beasts would finish them.) All of this calls where refused, with the order making calls of his own in kind.

At the end the order was purged, and the last infamous deed of the Black General was done. In the attack a large detachment of Yan soldiers, with an entire cohort of royal guards, broke their formation and with many men bearing the symbols of the royal mistress Yuli Jing in tow, ventured deep inside the building.
There is no explanation for this, perhaps they wanted to humiliate the monks personally for their master or simply slaughter them themselves instead of leaving it only as the job of the footmen of the army. But some have speculated that the wicked Mistress of Flames was in search of something or someone, what this was if true is now draped in legends by the folk of the land. The last laying of eggs of an ancient couple of Great Celestial Dragons ? The famed Scroll of Sunrise and Sunset one of the first written documents of the art of cultivation ? The mystical Hall of the Wisdom Tree of the 99 flower stars of beatitude ? Or even the venerated master and founder of the Dai monks, teacher of grandfather Guozhi ? Unfortunately for us it will be never know, we can only hope that what the thrice damned hedonistic courtesan of the pig king did not achieve what she desired.
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>>4982681
Kinda like the salamader and daemonhunter mod, but instead of a variant of of space marines is a variant of the imperial guard for the Benelovent Wings? Or just replace the models for units that would be close enough?
Both would be hard, but one is worse than the other I guess.
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The ghostly symbol of this cove of space devils, raiders, scum and pirates. Though they are diverse from the rest of their wretched kin, by being obsessed by hunting and by recreating the "perfect hunt".
It was not a surprise that then in the ancient past, they set their eyes towards golden Shangrila. Our ancestors and the planet fauna suffered under their desire of perfectionism and greed for capturing the numerous exotic beasts of the world. It s theorized that it was their doing that almost brought to extinction numerous of the world species, as their cages where full of animals thought myths and legends, when the army had found them.

After their defeat, that at the time we believed total, back in the depths of the dark of space they plotted against us. It s not know my many but this beings live in an ancient and terrible city far far away from all that makes sense and good.

The Kabal defeat here on our world, was quite small by a military point. But the social, cultural and the momentereal economical loss, where quite large. Being killed, wounded, captured, outsmarted by a bunch of feudal humans was simply not something that could be laughed off in their society or culture. And that wasn t just for them. Other Kabals by association or alliance where scorned and humiliated dailyl, after the news of this defeat spread. The economical matter was also important, has the planet brought proud, intelligent and strong beasts able to kill with ease unexperienced and experienced warriors alike. A spectacle to behold in the dark city arenas.
Soon all of this reasons would have move the Kabal in search of vengeance, as well to restablish their raids on the beasts and the human population. Now the peoples of Shangrila, would have not stand against the true might of dark lords from space. Or so this raiders thought, blind to the truth and to the valour of our peoples, they would have soon learn another lesson a lesson that would have been remembered forever by this despicable beings.
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>>4982687
Now I'm glad I procrastinated on trying to make that proof of concept into an actual symbol, yours is way better than anything I would end up drawing.
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This particular beast is one of the first creature our lord of heavens has found.
By his nature it s a scanvenger socializer, moving in large groups of dozens of it s kin. It s not strong, but for a small evil spirit is very cunning and intelligent, able to cut down in ambushes larger spirits that ventures in it s domain.

Their main homes and hunting grounds, are the boundaries between reality and irreality, and they are one of the first despicable beings that usually attempts to reach us. They feed on negative emotions and if they can take them souls.
It seems that Lord Lieren still didn t find a name for this beings, and neither an use for them. Who could blame him, when they are so hideous to look at ?
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The New Varro people have establish themselves in the lands of our kingdom. They are quite different, it s obvious. From being from a different world to their ... traditions.

Their settlements, are usually small villages and towns surrounded by "ranches", strange pastoral farms often specialized for herds of beasts rather than for agriculture.
While still a small population, they have become increasingly useful to the kingdom. For being already adapt and skilled in the use of modern weapons, or having knowledge that we couldn t even believe the existance.
But that is not all, in fact while New Varroican have find jobs in numerous places (even at noble courts and as advisors for the army generals) there is an unruly amount of their young boys and girls that has "exercise" in numerous firefights and "rodeos" in their ranches creating quite the uproar.
Soon local Long Jia nobility and peasants where naturally surprised and more fearful of this strange folk.
For avoid possibile problems between the two, the Lai house and a Varroican named "Ol Winchester" rallied this bands of younglings and under the direction of the old men of their community , they where trained in becoming the traditional warriors of New Varro : The gunmans. Rapid, agile and incredibly skilled with ranged weaponry as well highly mobile thanks to an experience in running, jumping and riding beasts in the difficult New Varro terrains.
Even if now under the army of the kingdom, they are still a bit rebellious more for their age and culture, than any other desire. Afterall it was the Gentle Giant Lieren, King Jinhai and the rest of our people that saved them, protected them and gifted them food, water, clothing, homes, jobs and lands.
This will be forever remember by this people, of that we can be sure.
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>>4982708
>New Varro
>NewVarro
>Nawvarro
>Navarro
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With Shangrila now united a new golden age started, the one of space travel. In comparison to the previous one of the new Long-Jia kingdom it was even greater.
New technologies where developed, and the divide betwenn the people became shorter and shorter by day. Misery, Poverty, Criminality where soon lowered as well.
Prosperity and happyness embraced the lands. And finally states that where enemies by eons, where friends and steadfast allies. Lord Lieren and Lady Kazeon work where fundamental in this, and in many other things.
Of course even the military changed.
And their equipment , weapons and tactics with it. While the feats of the ancient past of man, could never be truly replicated all with the same quality and quantity with such a short amount of time on their hands, much could be done. New armors revolutionized the military much like new weapons and the first vehicles did.
The one for the infantry was capable of many things, while remaining cheap to maintain and build.
Now the men of the kingdom would have been able to fight in multiple environments without the need to avoid them or suffer unneeded hardships, or certain deaths in traveling and in fighting inside them. No common blades or guns would have wound them or kill them either, and their armors would have make them stronger and faster than simple warriors. More weight could be carried by them, making it easier for have more supplies or equipment with them. Even venom, toxin or radiations would have not kill them easily, and they would had oxygen with them so that they may keep breathing even in places where there was no air. Lastly the lens of their war masks even if simple, where still capable of aiding them in multiple tasks and in combat.
While none of this armors, weapons and equipment could never come near to the quality and superiority of the ones of Lord Lieren, they where still remarkable and a great advancement to what just a few decades ago the soldiers of the Long Jia people used.
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>>4982714
Never forget.
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At first, the core of heavy infantry called by commoners has "Chendao Heavy Infantrymen", was quite small at the start of our kingdom and glorious dynasty. This was because the recruits they searched for and the traits they wanted in them, needed to be many and most recruits for the army couldn't fit their specifications.
This changed with this new golden age though. Now our peoples where well fed, richer and with less burdens from work or from the regions they lived. Stronger recruits and larger recruiting pools of them became available.
In addition they received a new armor, that made them almost look like the statues of the heroes of the rebellion in size and depth. The amount of plating they had was possible thanks to mechanisms and machinery of their new equipment. And their greater weakness, their weight and slow speed, where cut down thanks to new advancements making them an even more dangerous foes to our enemies.
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There where no doubts that the Lai house light cavalry proved very valuable in the wars of Shangrila. From it s rapid scouting, ambushes, harassing of enemy forces, light skirmishes and outmaneuvering of enemy formations during battles. To their quick adaption and experimentation of new technologies and military notions.

It wasn't strange then than upon knowing of the creation of the new "steel steeds", they where to first to run for see them with their eyes and try them. What impressed them the most was those vehicles, we know today as motorcycles (even another house was impressed by them, but we will talk about them later). Specifically ones that where able to be fast, while capable of going in impervious terrain and keep grip on it with their wheels.

The first models where quickly taken and rapidly boost the new motorized regiments of the Lai, that they maintained alongside their cavalry making them work together in multiple occasions.

The armors the Riders received, where specifically made for their type of warfare, remaining agile and fast while maintaining several features of the one given to the infantrymen of the kingdom. The plating is able to move easily with their movements and its design allows it further, improving upon the reaction and tactics of the Lai Riders.
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While the "Treachery of the Turtles" was not a glorious battle, it was a necessary act. And for many the efforts and nobility show by the Dai during the Journey Rebellion, and then the wars for unite Shangrila where more than enough for surpass what they did. A duty to protect and shield the weak, above a meaningless loyalty toward hedonistic tyrants.

And this duty wasn't kept only to their family, but it moved even to their greatest military force, the Stalwarts. Originally a simple unit of heavy infantry born out of necessity for deal against the fury of ancient Vishnu and Shuni raids, it had became their most know force and trained one.

It became an even more stronger force with time, keeping their traditional longswords and other melee weapons alongside heavy machine guns, grenade launchers and rocket launchers. And of course with the dawn of a new age for our world, they too received new equipment, and their armors where truly a sight to behold. Albeit different from the ones of the Chendao infantry, it still kept several of it s traits. Though the Stalwarts armor, was further reinforced for become a "sponge" that the blows and shots of our foes would have all fail. It had to sacrifice some speed and agility for this trait, but it was well worth the cost as we can still see in this days.


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Someone posted a story where they played with fog panthers marines against some orks it was very cool.

>>4982689
Thanks

>>4982714
Kek
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The equipment of the officers, generals and lords of the Kingdom was perhaps one of the most varied and beautiful ever seen. Even if they at first followed the new style brought forward by Lieren, the Long-Jia and the Journey, they incorporated some of their traditional symbolisms in their war gear.

But the army was still able to continue and finalize it s process of standardization even with the phenomenon of personalization among the higher ranks, especially for it s officers that where already put in such a spot from the start of the dynasty. The new war gear given to them makes sure of this, as well being simply too good to pass over or refuse.
While this armor started from an infantryman one, it developed further for become able to sustain a larger amount of communications, obtain more knowledge from his surroundings and overall have new elements made for improve the leadership and command of an officer.
It s design gives a natural aura of authority that is accentuated even more so, by the honorary golden horns on the helmet and between them a golden sphere with the symbol of the Journey impress upon it.
Such a sight is sure to keep high morale and discourage our foes and their resolve against us.
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It was not so long ago that the story of the Brotherhood of the Panthers started, in comparison to other military orders they are perhaps the younger of all. From a band of disorganized, unexperienced, weak and poor villagers established for protect and feed their families, to the most elite and veteran formation in the whole kingdom, nay Shangrila, that served has a strike force of the army, has personal guard of the Gentle Giant and his fair lady and has royal guards of the Long-Jia. Many of them became heroes, generals, champions, officers and lords. Other returned to civilian affairs becoming successful entrepreneurs, while other kept to their humble origins by returning to be farmers and hunters. Some where simply satisfied by being simply in the brotherhood or by having a low rank, such as sergeants and military instructors (despite having all the credentials for have ranks higher tenfold that what they where fine with) so that they could better shape the new generations of brothers.

Being among the best warriors of the kingdom, and the personal men of Lieren, meant that their equipment would be special. Already they had a variegate arsenal and armory, with the golden age it expanded even further having a selection so wide that it would be unbelievable to think it would happen time ago.
Their armors are one of such things, a commendable feat of technology and craftmanship, allowing them the versatility they desire in battle and making them reach new martial heights never achieved by our peoples before.
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The honor of the great plains lords has always been fundamental for them. It s part of their culture, and they have become attach to it, it is like a second skin for them. Is what has guide them all this time, it s the difference between them and the rest of the world. In their military force, this has translated in the traditional Kang Charger being the example and the martial personification of their believes.
Clashing in thundering charges and violent melee's against the Shuni hordes and in times prior, when their where their own state against the southern kingdoms. Has it is, the Chargers have not change their doctrine, mainly modernize their tactics and equipment.
The introduction of steel steeds and heavier firearms, has ensure this further allowing them not to change their preferences, and still being capable of practicing charges and brutal melee's, while using ranged weaponry when needed. In particular heavy motorcycles allow them to move with far more equipment and weaponry at their disposal, while keeping a relatively high speed. Their old mounts are still more than capable of being used by them in the new war gear, but they certainly can t transport more equipment than the past.
The new armor of the Chargers, is studied for a melee specialization, and in regard to his toughness it can withstand without scratches punishments that would easily destroy steel, stone and iron. It can be compared to the heavy armor of the Stalwarts or the Chendao infantryman's.
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The Qian had become perhaps one of the most influential houses in the kingdom, thanks to their wide spy network and strict collaborators. Their military role in the new army was more than assured thanks to their contributions to the rebellion and in the liberation of the world, remarkably the fact that they were capable of keeping their true power and identities completely a mystery from their enemies and most of their allies, was the confirmation.
It is needless to say that their efforts were fundamental for ensure freedom and even in hunting down with zeal any last tyrants and criminals scum left on the world, or that attempted to escape in the wilderness of mother nature.
All of this was rewarded by the Kingdom, Shangrila and Lieren. New equipment and technologies where made accessible to these men and women, and it ensured that they would have been dangerous to all our enemies ever more.
Their armor is made from different materials, ranging from metals to plastics. It needs to compromise some protection for give a better effect for stealth, as well enhance further is movements and speed. The dark paints used ensure that at night or in the shadows it becomes ever difficult to find them, though the Qian spies aren t alien to cover it with other paints for other situations and biomes.
The advance machinery integrated within the armor allows them to extract more informations, as well move easily at night and find their foes like it was day. Numerous secret pockets and sections can be used for store small equipment or additional weapons and ammo.
Having such equipment at their disposal allowed them to further refine their training and expand upon it, making them take forever the path of greatness and made them enter definitely in the elite's forces of the army.
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The Vishnu tribes of the Bone Devouring Forest, had flourished under the Long - Jia. Their numbers where growing everyday, from simple villages they established their own towns and where planning to make a city of their own. While at first the cultures of the two people clashed, it had been slowly mend an old wound between the two of them and the first steps of a new culture could be seen by the more wise and scholarly incline.
A role that was previously unanswered by the military of the Yan, was now filled with the presence of Vishnu Screamers : assault troops. In the rebellion, while their presence was small they still proved themselves admirably showing their worth and routing the enemy lines with their sudden and violent assaults.
Afterwards with the liberation of Shangrila they proved essential for weaken or destroy enemies formation, even more so in their home regions and against Nitya Sinha.
Their new equipment is a great improvment over the one first issued to them by the new kingdom, and it was accepted with far less resistance than in the past.
Their new armor is made for let them move at great speed and agility on the battlefield, allowing them to quickly close on their foe and slaughter them whole. If that wasn t enough alongside their new weapons to demoralize their foes, the helmet of a Vishnu Screamer is equipped with a vocal amplifier that permits to increase the volume of their voices, and thus their traditional war cry as well. The collective result of a whole regiment attacking is like hearing a great predator that charges upon is prey, unsettling for our foe and reinvigorating for allied troops.
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Six fanged spear

This weapon has been from a long age, one of the main artifacts of the royal armory of the Yan. It s power seems to have no limits, and what it has show to do could be not enough to even compare to what it s true power could be in in the hands of someone that can use it.
It s a weapon of three kinds : melee for his nature of spear, range for the weapon shooting a devastating ray of light and lastly it allows a psychic contact of sort with it s user or.... with someone else even at long distances.
Yin Aiguao, was a champion assigned such war gear for defeat Lord Lieren. Of course the hedonistic and corrupted pawn failed and wasn t able to complete it s mission, granting the Gentle Giant such an artifact, far more worthy in his hands.

Star Metal Guandao

A favourite weapon of Lord Lieren. Magnificent much like his splendid armor. Made from the superior material, know by most of mankind as star metal. This weapon seems almost alive and with a mind of his own, and what it would look at first like a "simple" melee weapon as show to be a quick death to any foe of our savior and hero. The weapon cuts down with ease any materials we have seen, and the thread never looks ruined, the blade of it no to be correct the entire weapon seemingly adjust it self in combat, wherever it needs to parry or attack from a new angle. The strange energy that surround and emanates from the armor of our lord, comes too from such mighty weapon.
And it said, from a man that i had the fortune to know a psyker that served along the golden prince of mankind, that this weapon attunes with the energies of the mind and unknown empowering the already majestic know abilities of the primarch.
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And done. It took a while but they are all here. I have some weapons in mind next time.
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>>4982279
Well, I'd say it's been a pleasure, but trying to decipher nigh unintelligable babbling is more tedious than anything.
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>>4982780
Excellent work as always anon.
Looking foward to whatever you make next.
>>4982792
Same to you anon.
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>>4982796
Thanks
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>>4982708
THE EMPEROR BLESS THE ENCLAVE!

>>4982780
God damn son nicely done.
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>>4982780
poggers
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>>4982867
Thanks again
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>>4982687
We should ask the Emperor for Dark Eldar info and counter tactics. Heh. We haven't left the planet and we're already facing Daemons, Dark Eldar, and Archeotech.

And if we're unlucky, we might end up fighting Orks.
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thought I might help Malal total 45 votes
>>4981329
>From the farmer 12
>Learn from others 3
>Swear to me 3
> Do not cling to life 1

Write-ins
Live long and prosperous my son 1
>>4981351 (the 5 or 4 write-ins one might count for swear to me) 2
give jade amulet 4
>The key to life is balance. 18
(always act with efficiency but do not overwork or overthink) 1
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait


From the farmer with nothing, to the king with everything, all life holds value...:12

Learn from others, Ponder their actions, do not turn your head from the foreigner but learn from him...:3

Swear to me...:7
-I expect you to survive until we meet again:1
-"Live long and prosperous my son.":1


the four lessons: 2

Do not cling to life, or its joys, do not cling to life, or its sorrows...:1

The key to life is balance. To lose yourself in a emotions or a simple path is to become undone...:19
-always act with efficiency but do not overwork or overthink: 1
Press the jade talisman into his hand.:4

So Lieren will tell Dae-Hyun "The key to life is balance. To lose yourself in a emotions or a simple path is to become undone. Do not be afraid to learn form others, but know that are something that must be unchanged. Do not fear death, for it's inevitable, but still appreciate life. Know that everyman is equal in worth, but to ignore each ones talents is to waste them. Know that perfection is unreacheable, but still strive to better yourself. Always be willing to fight for a good cause, but never do it for violence sake. Be willing to overthrown a tyrant, but understand the importance of order and society. And above all, know that to love humanity, you must also love yourself."

Writing now

Sorry again for the wait.


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>>4982780
Amazing work as always! Though I especially like the lord of the stellar hunt sigil, the warp beast and the broken circle!

>>4983703
thanks for the assist
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>>4983891
Malal, have mercy on the voters, they do not know what they have done, for they are autistic
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>>4983900
Then they're par for the course for playing a Primarch.
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A million thoughts wash to the front of your mind, the raging torrent of a stream fed by a storm of emotion and quiet contemplation. You wage an internal debate within yourself, setting both the logical and emotional sides of yourself against the other to choose between the thousands of lessons and wisdoms both small and great you have learned and devised throughout your comparatively extremely eventful lifetime. Of course, the passages of the journey and its many lessons defeat the lesser teachings and experiences of your travels, with a similar efficiency and ease as your armies overcame and subjugated their imperial enemies. However, there's only a brief few moments to impart these lessons upon Noble, valorous Dae-Hyun, so he may in turn teach them to his, assumedly, younger and less experienced brothers.

However, a concise message is preferable to an incomplete one and you'll certainly have a chance in the future to explain in greater detail the numerous messages of the Journey and the intricacies of your world view. After all you have become quite adept at both debating and discussing its benevolent wisdom and virtues at great length, and have come to find such philosophical conversation to be most delightful. As a gardener enjoys speaking of his flowers, as a craftsman enjoys detailing his art, as any professional talent exults in their chosen field of excellence and its subtleties!

Pressing your hands together, you subconsciously, instinctively go through the motions of the habit learned from your honorable "grandfather" Guozhi, pressing your hands together and giving them three shakes. Oncee to the right of your head, once directly before it, and once to left of it. The exact order doesn't matter, the motions themselves being a traditionally form of blessing or silent prayer. However you mostly carry them out, as your usual habit of lashing your arm out most vigorously to lend a commanding air of dramatics to your proclamations or speeches, would have struck the still kneel Dae-Hyun directly across his face. And while he is currently from your perspective incorporeal, the strike would have still been unforgivably ill mannered. And the other habits you've adopted or otherwise subsumed into yourself would simply not fit the atmosphere of this parting between father and son who have so briefly met. For example, Akanksha's shameless "flapping" of her feathered cloak, or Xin's howling laughter, or Bai's predatory grin.

"The Key to life is balance" You speak, after a moment that seemed to last for hours, pointing your still pressed together hands towards Dae-Hyun's fading specter, as if conferring your blessings to him "To lose yourself in emotions or a single path is to become undone"

Raising your hands, you turn your gaze towards the heavens or rather the roof of the astral sanctuary and become briefly enchanted by the beautiful mural of humanity's rule over the cosmos that has been painted there.
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It is an ever shifting sea of scenes and ever changing colors, depicting both great triumphs and unimaginable tragedy. And at a glance you understand it to be the collected memories of your father's life.

"Do not be afraid to learn from others, but know that they are something that must be unchanged" You continue, still in the thrall of the beautifully sorrowful sights of humanity's long forgotten history, the same solemn grief of glories lost and greatness decayed as you had felt in Kanzeon's own heart, or even on a smaller Scale, Guozhi's memories of his past lives. The mourning of years long passed by that only a truly ancient being could harbor.

"Do not feat death, for it is inevitable, but still appreciate life!" You exult, passion flowing from your heart to seep into your words and manner, tears filling your eyes as you speak with a peerlessly energetic fervor "Know that every man is equal in worth, but to ignore each one's talent is to waste them!"

Turning your attention away from the mural of the unforgotten ages of humanities life and its legends, you direct your gaze towards Dae-Hyun once more, and smile and then grin gregariously.

"Know that perfection is unreachable, but still strive to better yourself" You gleefully explain, opening both of your hands to press them between your twin hearts "ways be willing to fight for a good cause, but never do it for violence's sake. Be willing to overthrown a tyrant, but understand the importance of order and society. And above all,"

You pause, and kneel to meet your son's eyes as an equal, bowing your back to match his height.

"know that to love humanity, you must also love yourself" You say, sighing as you reach out to grasp his hand and find yourself grabbing at nothing but empty air. You bow your head, as Malcador to, vanishes away with a puzzled look upon his hood hidden features. Your father walks behind you and places a hand upon your shoulder.

"May I ask where you learned such "wisdom"? its too reasonable to be the product of a religious mind" He asks out of geniune curiosity. The scorn with which he uses "religious" reveals something of your father's character and perspective, and explains several of the murals upon the roof of this astral sanctuary.

"It is nothing more than how I view the world, a philosophy I have refined and spread to aid in bringing prosperity to the people of my world" You explain with a gentle smile as you rise to your feet "Its core tenants and lessons condensed so I could at least impart the spirit their teachings to my sons."

"It is unfortunate our own meeting will be short as well, Lieren" He says, looking into your eyes with the love only a father can possess, though it looks alien in his eye's compared to Wenyan "It has been too long since I've met someone who I'd considered a worthy opponent in the field of philosophy, not since.."

His eyes become a storm of regret, and he turns away. A linger wound in his heart pangs with renewed pang.
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"Something I should not trouble you with, with the knowledge you possess and the trials you have endured, it'd be cruel to implant it into your mind as well" He excuses, shaking his head once before his smile gradually returns "But when humanity's great crusade reaches your home, I promise we'll discuss this self made philosophy of yours. So I may test its applicability to the wider humanity"

"I await the day, dueling with words and wisdom is far more pleasing of a challenge than the martial variety. Though being able to match one's blade with another is as useful a skill as matching their wit" You laugh. The emperor, as you've come to realize is his title, remains silent. He smiles and nods in quiet approval.

"Yes, we'll have much to discuss when we meet in person, my son" he says, clapping his hand back onto your shoulder "much to discuss indeed. I'm curious how your words will reflect upon your legion, and how close they'll come to discerning the true message within your words"

"I wonder that as well, but if Dae-Hyun is taken as an example, they possess great intellect, so I do not worry that they'll be unable to find the truth in those words" You say with a nod, as you begin to ponder what your father had as well.
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Dae-Hyun awoke with a start, returned to his flesh. His mind was in disarray, it felt like a dream he had suddenly been shaken out of, like he had become lightning and struck his body to reinhabit it. Malcador stood above him, scratching his chin in thought as second Legion's first and only man shot up like he had been returned from the dead. The sigilite seemed to be lost in thought, but Dae-Hyun paid him no mind as he stumbled to his feet, scratching his head as his father's words pierced his psyche, reverberating in his mind like a thousand chanting voice. Like the battle mantra that were by the hordes of the pan pacific empire.

It was a treasure, these words given to him by his father. The first spoken from a primarch to an astartes since the legions were drafted and forged together by their genetic codes. Pride swelled in Dae-Hyun's heart, as he strode with more vigor and life than he had since he had been made into an Astarte. Striding with renewed purpose and energy, he passed by his fellow space marines and the regiments of the Geno-soldiers who served alongside them. Most of those who inhabited the subterranean bunker were his brother's in arms, be they of the second legion or the regiments who followed them wherever they went. Though, they were not the only personal present in this forward fort. In fact, recently it seemed like every component of the imperial forces were present here in some number, not just the space marine legions, but the other ninety seven regiments of augmented "Baselines" and even most of the various wings of support and logistics. Dae-Hyun even spotted bureaucrats, nobility and scientists in some corners of the facilities extensive passageways and tunnel systems.
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A member of the twelfth legion, the "War hounds" as they had been named by the emperor himself, sat on a crate of munitions, fully armored and kitted out. The Savage turned his attention to the Legion master, and showed his respect by stopping his sharpening of his knife and lifting his head. The visors in his armor were painted red, and surrounded by burns, lending the fierce figure an even more barbaric air. But then his father's words returned to Dae-Hyun, and he returned the gesture with a bowed head.

The war hound seemed taken aback for a moment, before shrugging and saluting the legion master in imitation of their own manner of doing so.

"I'm starting to go stir crazy, Indomitable" the marine mused, clenching and unclenching a fist "haven't seen any action since we pacified the Cephic hives, always figured you and your legionnaires look down upon us hounds for our methods considering the level of professionality you hold yourselves to"

"Every man is equal in worth" Dae-Hyun answered, repeating his father's words with a nearly manic look in his eyes "Do not be afraid to learn from others"

The war hound rose, studying the legion master carefully.

"Doesn't look like you've been freshly injured, at least in any way that could addle your mind. That response makes no sense, oh valorous one" The marine spoke with a curious tilt of his head "It'd be a shame if a soldier as tough as you fell in with some kind of cult, you know the twelfth admires the second for how hard they are to kill or even rout, it'd be regrettable if that tenacity came from somewhere else besides yourself"

"Oh, nothing of the sort, legionnaire. I am just reflecting upon my primarch's words" Dae-Hyun said smugly "I realized that they applied to your legion and the others"

The war hound took a few moments to internalize what he had heard, and nearly fell to his knees in reverence, knowing even brain damage wouldn't make a space marine imagine meeting a father they had never met before.

"So that's what the sigilite came here for!" the war hound exclaimed "Never imagined his purpose here would be something so greatly important as a Primarch being found"

"Contacted" Dae-Hyun corrected as the war hound moved to take off his helmet, as a member of the thirteenth legion, named the by the informal epithet the "War born", passed by pausing to listen in on the conversation before recognizing Dae-Hyun as his position as Legion master, and continued on whatever business the orphan of the last rebels continued on "He was...proud of me, of the second, and he left me with a lesson, teachings to impart upon my legion"

Dae-Hyun made a mental note to speak with his counterpart in the thirteenth, see what he could learn from him. His mind buzzed with his father's words, feeling the kindness and gentle pride with which he spoke each of them.
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"if it was any other legionnaire, I'd suspect they'd gone mad, but you're too tough for that" The war hound said, setting his helmet down on the crate he had been resting upon, revealing two cybernetic eyes surrounded by plasma scarring "Fourteenth Captain Yazid Khalid, by the way, know the second legion don't concern themselves with protocol or etiquette, but figured I should pay back your politeness in kind, and so you can know who'll tell the other legions of your good fortune, cousin. Maybe you'll still be alive when your father is returned to us

Dae-Hyun laughed, and nodded, and remembered another portion of his father's wisdom

"Do not fear death, for it is inevitable, but still appreciate life" He said blithely, almost feeling intoxicated from the lingering joy of meeting his father and being regarded with such pride and acceptance

"Didn't know it was possible for an astartes to be freaked out, still, once you get past how it sounds when you first hear it, that's pretty sound advice so long as it doesn't spawn a death cult around it" Captain Khalid said after a moment of unease "Wonder if my primarch will be a wise and kind like your genesire, Mind if I accompany you? I can't miss seeing how the rest of the second react to this and"

"You want to hear what he was like so you can imagine your father better?" Dae-Hyun guessed

"Perhaps" Yazid said with a sneer "Perhaps I am, Oh Fortunate son"

Now that was a name that could catch on, Dae-Hyun thought
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You are awoken, aching, to the physical world once again, by Kanzeon tightly embracing you with enough force that it almost feels like she's trying to break your back

Guozhi stands behind her, alongside the other core disciples of the wanderers in the fog sect, who are praying around you. A coppery taste lingers upon your tongue, and as you open your mouth and smack your lips to rid yourself foul sensation, Kanzeon hugs you tighter.

"Don't leave me" she whispers, voice weak with worry and grief. Without saying a word, you embrace her in turn.

What do you do, Lieren?

>Prepare the kingdom for the Coming wars openly, advising Jinhai to create a martial tournament, while you throw yourself into reinforcing the kingdom and expanding its growing military force

>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing

>Recover and rest with Kanzeon at Nothing, while over seeing projects around the kingdom.

>You've been branded, and two servants of chaos stand at the gate. You've endured their god's fury, it is time to live up to your name, and hunt one of them down like the animals they are.

>write in

And Yes, Dae-Hyun remembers the full message and lesson Lieren told him, he was just reminded of pieces of it while he talked. So he didn't get half of the lesson, or only fragments, he got the whole thing, don't worry
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>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing

First things first.
>You've been branded, and two servants of chaos stand at the gate. You've endured their god's fury, it is time to live up to your name, and hunt one of them down like the animals they are.

Kamal Kanan now has an expiry date.
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>>4983342
There is a lot of foes but I am sure we can prevail against them. Though if orks arrive it will be tougher.


>>4983891
Thanks for the appreciation Malal
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>>4984077
>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>Recover and rest with Kanzeon at Nothing, while over seeing projects around the kingdom.
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>>4984077

>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>>4984099
Honestly I want to teleport right on him using the hair he took, then empowering the souls he stole to break free of him for massive damage. It's the most ironic punishment we deliver.
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>>4984077
>>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>Prepare the kingdom for the Coming wars openly, advising Jinhai to create a martial tournament, while you throw yourself into reinforcing the kingdom and expanding its growing military force
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>>4984077
>>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>>You've been branded, and two servants of chaos stand at the gate. You've endured their god's fury, it is time to live up to your name, and hunt one of them down like the animals they are.
And of course,
>Sit and hug for a little bit.
>>4983342
IIRC, Malal considered orks instead of deldar, but decided an infestation would've been a mistake. But if we do have to fight any, I think I remember it being mentioned that if we channel enough of our essence into someone, they explode. Maybe we could use the Waaagh! field against them.
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>>4984077
>Prepare the kingdom
>tell Guozhi and sect, then experiment.

Rest can wait until after the war.
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>>4984077
>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>Recover and rest with Kanzeon at Nothing, while over seeing projects around the kingdom.
Makes sense to figure out what Lierens new ability entails, and Lieren is horribly wounded right now and I wouldn't be surprised if one or both chaos kings decide to drop on top of us asap as soon as they learn what happened.
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>>4984077
>Prepare the kingdom for the Coming wars openly, advising Jinhai to create a martial tournament, while you throw yourself into reinforcing the kingdom and expanding its growing military force

We've neglected our duties long enough, we can play around with warp powers like jackass children who never learn their lessons later, war now!

>Write in

Kiss kanzeon and assure her that you will fight with all your soul to stay by her side, and that once the war is over we will take her on a tour of the lands we liberate
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>>4984077
>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing

>Recover and rest with Kanzeon at Nothing, while over seeing projects around the kingdom.

>Give the waifu some attention, We keep damn near giving its robo heart a fucking death.
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>>4984124
Support
I'd prefer to hunt the follower of Kornflakes first as they have powerful tech and it would be safer to go alone and inform Kanzeon that we can also look for her sister together and find out what happened to her exactly
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>>4984077
>Recover and rest with Kanzeon at Nothing, while over seeing projects around the kingdom.
We've been disregarding Kanzeon's concern for us for a while now. Also, Dad needs grandkids.
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>>4984077
>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>You've been branded, and two servants of chaos stand at the gate. You've endured their god's fury, it is time to live up to your name, and hunt one of them down like the animals they are.
With Kaman gone, than the Long-Jia only has to fight one front, because I expect whatever aurvivors of Shuni leadership to start backstabbing eachother.
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>>4984077
>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>You've been branded, and two servants of chaos stand at the gate. You've endured their god's fury, it is time to live up to your name, and hunt one of them down like the animals they are.
I sure hope Kamal Kanan has some lube nearby, cause he is gonna need it.

I would have voted to prepare the kingdom, but I'm worried that since we are branded by Chaos, the Vishnu and Shuni may feasibly start to work together, since both of their masters probably hate us more then each other. Killing one of them would help nip this problem in the bud, and ensure we only have one front to worry about.
With that having been said, the danger of the Vishnu lies in their advanced technology, which isn't gonna go away once their leader is gone. Meanwhile the Shuni are powerful psykers, and killing their most powerful member and the only one who can reasonably stand up to us would go a long way to neutralising them. It would also probably make them shit their pants, which is good.
So yeah, I say we pay Kamal a visit.

After we understand what the hell is going on with our soul and we aren't bleeding to death of course.
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One thing I want to point out is that Yin Qi is strongly connected to space and time as well as debuffs. We have a very interesting fight ahead.
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>>4984077
>Inform the sect and understand our new soul light.
>Rest and recover with Kanzeon
>Hunt down Kamal Khan

Ideally we should rest in the academy with our sect, makes travel much simpler and otherwise mitigates the time penalty for other options.

Kanzeon deserves some genuine affection, even if we are trying to learn about our new powers.
Then we can ass fuck that dumbass sorcerer bitch
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>>4984077
>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>You've been branded, and two servants of chaos stand at the gate. You've endured their god's fury, it is time to live up to your name, and hunt one of them down like the animals they are.
No rest for the prosperous I suppose.
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Changing the second vote here >>4984124 to
>>Recover and rest with Kanzeon at Nothing, while over seeing projects around the kingdom.
I assume those other projects are war-centric. We can track down the Chosen once we know Long-Jia will be able to deal whatever forces attack while we're hunting. And the wife'll be happy. Fade-to-black when???
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>>4984077
>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>Recover and rest with Kanzeon at Nothing, while over seeing projects around the kingdom.
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>>4984077
> Prepare the kingdom for the Coming wars openly, advising Jinhai to create a martial tournament, while you throw yourself into reinforcing the kingdom and expanding its growing military force
I think Lieren can take some time to rest and heal while in between meetings and sending out orders. After all, we have Four Kings of War who we can rely on, not to mention the various destructive shenanigans that Shan and Dandan can unleash.

> Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing.
This seems like it could be SUPER important, and I would expand this vote to Jinhai and Lieren's closest companions as well. IC we know for a fact that there are monstrous servants of darkness preparing to assault the newly reborn kingdom of hope and prosperity, but so to do we know that there is hope.

> KISS THE GIRL ALREADY YOU FOOL!
Best Girl has been through so much already, she deserves some love and affection.
||The wedding ceremony and fade to black can happen later, so Khorne Flakes and Bitch Bird can't ruin it.||
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>>4984077
>>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>>You've been branded, and two servants of chaos stand at the gate. You've endured their god's fury, it is time to live up to your name, and hunt one of them down like the animals they are.
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>>4984077
>>Recover and rest with Kanzeon at Nothing, while over seeing projects around the kingdom.

>Prepare the kingdom for the Coming wars openly, advising Jinhai to create a martial tournament, while you throw yourself into reinforcing the kingdom and expanding its growing military force

>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
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Someone please post chens symbol,I need it for a thing
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>>4985047
Sure
What kind of thing ?
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>>4985114
A thing, a terrible thing
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>>4984077
>Prepare the kingdom for the Coming wars openly, advising Jinhai to create a martial tournament, while you throw yourself into reinforcing the kingdom and expanding its growing military force
>Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing
>You've been branded, and two servants of chaos stand at the gate. You've endured their god's fury, it is time to live up to your name, and hunt one of them down like the animals they are.
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>>4985114
For second I though the filename said Chechen War banner.
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Here's in the banner form, in case you need it.
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>>4985047
Last one.
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>>4984077
>Prepare the kingdom for the Coming wars openly, advising Jinhai to create a martial tournament, while you throw yourself into reinforcing the kingdom and expanding its growing military force

>Write in
Kiss kanzeon, girl was jealous that arianka almost looked like she kissed us, using deductive reasoning I have concluded that her new mortal body has wants, moocha smoocha
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Tried to create a Chinese silver hair primarch in artflow.ai got this instead, maybe it's one of our sons?
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>>4985734
Yeah, I think it works for an astartes of the second.
Maybe even Dae-Hyun, even though he is korean. Maybe he had a but of russian ancestry?
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Now that we've learned about Space Marines how about we try making some?
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>>4985842
We should investigate the Dai Monastery before Kamal or some daemon uses the thinner veil there to attack the Long-Jia heartlands.
And then we can try to save the ghosts's shards through the flesh project
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>>4985734
The weird artifacts from whatever algorithm that site uses inadvertently gave homeboy a service stud.
That face is Captain material at minimum.
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>>4985854
That wasn't my question.
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>>4985842
>how to prime your legion for a civil war 101
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>>4985842
theirs a difference between knowing about something and knowing how to make it and/or having the ability to do so.
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Holy hell we have a lot of posts in this thread, it actually slows down loading it at this point.
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Calling the vote now, sorry for the wait. Machine spirits have been real rambunctious lately

Tell Guozhi and the rest of the sect of your experiences, and see what the "gentle moonlight" in your soul is capable of doing:18

You've been branded, and two servants of chaos stand at the gate. You've endured their god's fury, it is time to live up to your name, and hunt one of them down like the animals they are.:8
-Kamal Kanan:3
-: Nitya Sinha: 1

Recover and rest with Kanzeon at Nothing, while over seeing projects around the kingdom.:8

Prepare the kingdom for the Coming wars openly, advising Jinhai to create a martial tournament, while you throw yourself into reinforcing the kingdom and expanding its growing military force: 7

Comfort Kanzeon: 6
-hug: 2
-Kiss: 3

Total votes: 21

So Lieren will inform the sect of what the hell just happened, and then experiment with the native "Yin" energy his soul now hosts and see what its moonlight is capable of

Writing now.

Sorry for the wait again.

>>4985734
NOW THAT IS A CHAD
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>>4985734
That is a face that has seen some Shit(tm). Maybe a Terran survivor of the Rangdan Genocides?

>>4985887
10/10, would follow on the field of battle.
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>>4986743
>No comforting best girl

So sad, Kanzeon play despacito
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>>4986804
There's new shinies to play with anon, character moments and advancing the plot/taking care of objectives always takes a backseat to shinies
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And you do not leave her side, but merely passively relax in her arms as she holds you in the center of a patch of grass and land devastated by the energies you summoned forth. A spiral has been cut into the lands features, will all five elements met and made discord together. Where Man challenged heaven upon earth. Where false gods attempted to subvert and corrupt the heart of a truly virtuous man. Where brothers stood side by side against true evil and ancient darkness. Where a distant father traveled to save his children from mortal danger. Your eyes adjust to the native gloom of Shangrala, and you see the devastation wrought by your brief encounter with the self titled Master of Anarchy, and see the paradox that rouse him from his slumber writ in soil and stone. The earth here has been pulled, drawn to form a vortex of cliffs and spires of rock. An unnatural landscape made by the whims of ominous winds and the devils who ride upon them. The center of your meditation has been raised and lowered, forming a plateau with a concave summit. When rains come, they'll fill the indentation in the stone and create a pond. A pond whose waters shall be darkened by the forces that forged this new, strange landmark.

As the winds here will ever sound like the wails and whimpers of the damned, as nothing wholesome and sustaining will every grow within this field twisted by the hands of spirits, as fire shall burn cold and the mist shall sting with the heat of a blistering summer, the elements will forever be in discord in this place. A reminder of the shame you shall forever bear, for your foolish actions this day and hubris of thinking to look upon the face of pure chaos. But now you know his face, and his name. And shall curse it every night until your dying day, or until you find the wretch and wring out its abhorrent life with your own two hands. You sigh, calming yourself as Kanzeon clings to you, acting much younger than her actual age.

"Ass!" She barks, making your smile as she moves to slap you, but then realizes you used the quiet insult to rouse her from her stupor of heart rending concern "Tch, you really like toying with people's emotions, don't you"

"Not yours" You answers sweetly, wrapping your arms around her as you place your forehead against hers "I was foolish, and endangered myself and your heart with my lack of caution. I know words are not enough, but I am truly sorry I made you go through such a hardship"

She frowns, and slides to rest her head against your shoulder

"You should worry about your own well being more, Lieren. I appreciate your concern for my feelings but, I'm more worried for your health than because of your actions" She mutters, smiling as she enjoys the warmth radiating from you "The heart aches more when it fears it'll lose what it treasures"

"I thought you disliked the poetics of my native tongue" You tease as she shakes her head, the short poem resting gently in your head and heart.
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>>4986825

It is more curative than the gentle moonlight or your father's presence

"It's an endearing quality, and I can tell from your thoughts you're touched by the gesture" She cackles before frowning again, clinging tightly to your arm as she digs her unpainted nails into it, afraid if she lets go you may fade away like an old memory "Promise me, you won't charge into danger so carelessly in the future, my beloved scholar"

"That is an easy oath to take, I'll make the utmost effort to avoid situations that would wound you, my Kanzeon" You coo as you run a hand through her hair.

"Grandmaster, it isn't fair one as chaste as you has such natural charisma" Peizhi bemoans as you start, remembering the presence of your most accomplished disciples. Kanzeon's cheeks light up with a red that is more at home within an autumn sunset, but just as beautiful painted across her features.

"You don't know the true extent of it" She mumbles off handedly "He puts as much effort into remaining worthy of my affections as he does with the rest of his duties"

"Truly, such love could conquer any trial that came before it. Though, praying to save the grandmaster from Mother Kanzeon's wrath may not be so misguided" Guozhi chuckles as Peizhi and his more responsible half, Bohai argue. And then you notices Kuan im, cheeks still stained with crimson rivulets, as she stared morosely ahead.

Cai had lost his joy, and sat beside her, contemplative and sorrowful.

"Malevolence hangs here as heavily as fog before a storm, I can taste the curses that have been laid upon you, Sect head Lieren" Kuan Im mumbles "Dark winds have carved these lands, and darker intentions have spoiled its Qi. What manner of tribulation did you undergo, that could so alter a place in both worlds?"

"Hrrm" Cai grunted, shaking his head "I've seen this before, lesser occultists who too greedily grasped for power and were unmade by the bargains they've made. Usually those who lower themselves to practice Shuni arts. Leaving nothing in their passing besides a shadow more deeply cast, a sour taste in the air, and hauntings. Never in my career have I see such devastation, nor have I witnessed the foci of the storm of hell survive its appearance"

"Lieren, could you please explain to me exactly what it is you were doing here? Do not worry, no answer you give will upset me or cause me to feel emotions like anger or irritation" Kanzeon almost hisses into your ear, while wearing a bright, smiling mask

"Perhaps he upset the native spirits, or awoke some long sleeping soul that was roused to a fit of fury at the sight of a world much changed from its memories" Bohai suggested, scratching a hand through his beard

"Or perhaps Grandmaster merely expelled his earthly desires, for they truly must be vast and well suppressed if he is able to stay so calm in the company of a radiant jade beauty like Kanzeon of the" Peizhi extrapolates.
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>>4986828

His cheeks flush pink before Kanzeon mounting anger is thankfully redirected towards him because of the somewhat lecherous expression he now wears.

You snort and struggle not to laugh at his plight as Kanzeon directs and unseen electrical current through your robes, directly into his chest. The former exorcist yelps and blinks rapidly, confused and suddenly afraid as his eyes dart around in search of the unseen foe that just struck him.

Kuan im however, noticed the trail of energy, but remains silent. Perhaps she to, has grown annoyed by Peizhi's flippant nature. Kanzeon nestles closer to you, glaring at the confused man, as the blush on her cheeks lightens to the hue of an yet unripe peach.

"While his love for me is vast and true, I doubt it'd manifest so destructively" She states confidently, pressing herself to you jealously, resembling a panther guarding its young. She pinches your side for that unspoken remark.

Guozhi looks into your eye, and you begin to hear his voice as he wind whispers to you to avoid being heard.

"I have an inkling what you attempted here, and what manner of trial you underwent. I do not think less of you for doing it, for you are young, and in fact I am impressed you endured such a rigorous, relentless and hateful assault" He speaks before Kanzeon interrupts, clearly shocking the old monk as he did not expect her to be able to telepathically communicate.

"I'd admonish you for intruding upon our private sanctuary, but I'll forgive this slight" She sarcastically states, which you don't think Guozhi catches onto "However, I already know what he did and how idiotic it was for him to attempt in hindsight, however I can't really explain it though I stood beside him from a certain point of view"

Since when did your mind become a tea house for the long lived? Will Shan, Wenyan, and Dai Niu suddenly join the conversation via a previously unknown talent for wind whispering?

"Sorry" Kanzeon whispers, the radiance returning to her still blushing cheeks "It's a habitual behavior of mine, I've realized"

"Well Grandmaster?" Guozhi speaks, flustered after his believed intrusion of your and Kanzeon's privacy

"It is a long story, though the time it spans was rather brief in truth" You begin to explain "In my studies of divination and meditation upon the five elements, I noticed a ominous pattern that I believed required closer study to truly understand. An investigation that became so close I came face to face with something more terrible than any of our enemies, mortal or otherwise. And this was when my research into and reflections upon the nature of chaos unrefined became a desperate fight for survival"

The Core disciples of the sect listen intently, their focus sharpening as Kanzeon toys with your hair and and runs her hands over the bruises and cuts upon your face, neck and shoulders.
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>>4986830
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"What is uncle Cai doing?" Qian Xiaowen asked his peer Zixin, as the two of them watched Meixiu "Playfully" lift one of her the sects newest prospective member high into the air. The gambler had made the mistake of patronizing the living Maelstrom of destruction incarnated into the form of the youngest inner disciple, who was now tittering girlishly as she spun the man around with a few twists of her wrist. The other children of the sect, and a few from Lieren's more mundane academy gathered to watch the spectacle.

One, who the young heir recognized as Sandip, was throwing pebbles at the man. He'd have to send a letter to the teachers and caretakers to curb such rude behavior.

"Telling a story Uncle Lieren told the Core members of the sect" The soldier with the gift of foresight whispered "Apparently he was stolen away to the home of a devil, and fought an ageless warrior alongside another giant, his brother"

"Brother?" Xiaowen replied incredulously "Which one". He knew Lieren to refer to many men as his brother, freely giving away the honor to those close to him. In fact, when Xiaowen was younger, he recalled that during a visit to his family's estate when he was still Gao's administrator, Lieren had told his elder sister that he considered most men to be his brother in a metaphorical sense. So of course he took the claim with some skepticism

"His blood brother, another giant" He said, glowering as Xiaowen looked at him, worrying for the integrality of his mind.

"I think that would be common knowledge if it were true" the Heir tease as the soldier sighed through his teeth, grinding them as he shook his head

"It's what Lieren claimed, said he had red skin" He hissed as Meixiu began to shake the now sick gambler, nearly causing him to vibrate "And was further along the path of cultivation than himself, said he used the Wuxing cycles to nearly kill the hellish blackguard who had bested HIM in combat"

"Are you sure he didn't make this up this to toy with Uncle Cai? Uncle Lieren is a trickster by nature, he enjoys teasing and manipulating people to act the part of the fool" Xiaowen laughed as Meixiu cackled maliciously

"Heavens above save me!" the man she tormented wailed

"Well you can listen to the tale and decided for yourself its veracity, Lordling" Zixin spat as he stomped towards Meixiu "After we've stopped the Little Terror from turning that poor man into a rain of blood"

"Of course, of course" Xiaowen said, still laughing as he followed his fellow to save the poor man's life from Meixiu's terrifying powers. Perish the thought, Lieren being bested in combat? Having a blood brother? If that was true, Xiaowen felt sorry for their mother and.

He paused as he caught sight of the beautiful, and nearly equal to Lieren in stature, Kanzeon. And suddenly the idea of hidden giants did not seem so preposterous.

"Wonder if his sons will have oddly colored skin" Xiaowen mused as he kicked at a clod of dirt.
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>>4986832
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Feng sat in the wilds, his head feeling like it was about ready to burst. His nightmare had troubled him, so he sought solace in the wilds to contemplate the meaning of his vision. He rubbed his temple, and as he looked up to the sky, he spotted a brilliant colored song bird, missing its tail feathers. His eyes narrowed, as he extended his well honed sense out into the forest around him. He wasn't alone here, he realized it when it had become so dreadfully quiet. He had assumed it was a fog panther or other predator prowling, nothing that would concern a hunter and warrior of his skill. But now he realized it was no beast.

But rather a beast like woman. A Vishnu woman. Akanksha. He stood and followed the trail of discarded feathers, and annoyed birds until he heard whimpered cries and voices speaking Vishnu in a unusually gentle and soothing manner. He remembered the rumors he had heard in the court, When Lieren returned with his equally giant bride, how to hearts broke that day. The scarred young man scratched his chin, pondering the events of that day and reflecting upon his heart's own desires. Perhaps, if Akanksha couldn't tame one panther, another would help mend her aching heart?

Feng shrugged, and marched forward. It was only polite to comfort a lady, even if she wasn't what most Long-Jianese men would consider a "proper" woman or beauty. He admired the wildness of the Vishnu. And besides, if Bai found a good wife among Akanksha's tribe, then it was only fitting for his "older brother" to win the hand of its leader,

He caught the hand of the guard he happened across, who recognized him instantly

"Scarman!" the brute exclaimed in broken Long-Jianese, beneath a bushy, ember hued beard. Feng's rage bubbled, and he struck the man on the nose.

"Only the carp king, giant, and my other brothers are allowed to call me that" he spat in Vishnu as the larger man reeled, and the rest of the feathered queen's guard emerged from the undergrowth, laughing in good humor

"What are you doing here, Little panther?" another, with a hair cut into a garish three strips, tied with Hook raven and night crane feather

"A fight, that's how your people court yes? I've heard a beautiful bird's call, and know to make it sing for me, I must first best her flock" He sneered in reply as the seven standing Men's eyes filled with a potent battle lust "So come on, and give me a challenge"

He tossed his rifle to the forest floor, and cracked his knuckles, as he adopted a stance that belonged to a martial style Lieren had pioneered and began teaching across the land.

That style, was named the Fog Panther style.

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"The moon sure is beautiful tonight" Kanzeon pointed out, as she lay on her back, cast in its silver glow. The two of you stood upon a high peak in the Tao lands, one of the few places the fog could not or dared not reach. It was true that the Chen-Dao Academy and home to the wanderers in the fog had peaks of similar height.
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>>4986834

However, Lady Tao Dandan had requested imperial aid in constructing a dam and artificial reservoir in her lands, so if a drought came water could be stockpiled and carried out to the provinces most greatly affected

And as you are the grand architect, it was your responsibility to see to her wishes, and that of the Kang, who requested a second power station be constructed solely to supply emergencies power to the defenses at their border. And the Xue, whose lord needed your guidance in placing a new factory and supplementary train line. And then at last the Dai, who had found several deposits of useful minerals, including gold and fine sand that could be used to produce both the focusing glass required for functional las weaponry, and the flexible rubber like glass used throughout the kingdom since it was introduced to build Jinhai's glass bridge.

"It is" You say, catching the innuendo in Kanzeon's words as you considered the moon's glow and bathed in it.

You knew, your soul had been altered, and absorbed and adapted to Arianka's gentle moonlight. Your being was now one of an every burning sea of golden fire and cooling streams of silver moonlight. It had altered you in ways you yet understood. Men, by nature possess far more "Yang qi" than they do "Yin Qi" and the reserve is true in women. Now, you had both in balance, in equal amount, feeding and nurturing the other. What this meant? You did not know. Guozhi had theories, as did Kuan im. Apparently a foul school of sorcery achieved similar via most atrocious means, but they had not clue what possessing Yang and Yin in equal quantities would achieve, besides bringing balance to your being or reinforcing and centering your soul.

However, they did provide you theories of your own, concerning the natural qualities of both energies.

And beneath the moon, surrounded by night air and cold mountain fed streams and winds, you sought to prove one or more of these theories, tonight.

Which element of Yin do you focus you experiments on, Lieren?

>The Moon and Water

>Darkness and The Night

>Negativity and Femininity

>The Earth and Cold

>Something more esoteric, like time, or space. Or perhaps stillness or passivity? Maybe even softness?

>Write in

Sorry again for the wait
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>>4986835

>Write in
>Something more esoteric

The concept of Celestial movement, the slow dance of stars, sun and moon.
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>>4986835
>Write in

The yin and yang, how the interaction between the two can be used to paradoxically stabilize your flaming soul or what the swirling opposing yet complimentary energies could achieve.
After all, your greatest ability is not that which makes you stronger, but that as you gain power so too do your allies and with their increasing strength so too do you Prosper.


Basically Ying/yang spiral energy Gurren laggan bullshit, I wanted to take the refined soul because it sounded the most beneficial for our people, but we can probably make this work too
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>>4986847
Damn, I forgot my image
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>The Moon and Water
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>>4986847
>>4986841
+1
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>>4986835
Good as always Malal it's always worth the wait.
>>4986841
I like this answer
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>>4986835
>Darkness and The Night

np for waiting
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>>4986835
>>4986847
+1
>the moon and water as well
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>>4986835
>>The Moon and Water
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>>4986847
+1

Ying/Yang seems like the obvious choice

Also I gotta admit I don't like all this femininity of lieren talk that's going on, I know that it's not that lieren is feminine in the slightest but that it just makes me uncomfortable when it's brought up
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>>4986841
+1
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>>4986841
>>4986847
>Support.
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>>4986847
Support.

Through learning to stabalise our soul or make it more hyperactive [like mixing high and low air pressures] then I feel like it could have some effect like this.

Stable soul renders more resistant/hardy against spiritual/emotional threats, perhaps acting more as a sustaining agent that would keep one of our brothers running even if he had a cut across his stomach that should disembowl him, the blood loss would have been massively slowed. Stable, like a stasis.

But excited soul could perhaps act as a nitro boost, pushing the recipients faster or harder, their Qi and psyker techniques hitting a bit harder or reaching a lot further and so on.
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>>4986847
>support
This too
>The Moon and Water

Maybe in the future with out new acquired power we may be able to manipulate or create our own fog around us at times to benefit us while being a detriment to our enemy
And we already have some experience manipulating water with our defensive battle with kohrnflakes
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>>4986926
That's a very rugged marine. Definatly a candidate for veteran or captain.
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>>4986835
>>The Moon and Water
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>>4986905
Leiren gonna start going by They/Them pronouns
>>4986835
>>The Moon and Water
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>>4986972
>>4987164
I'll explain something simple. Yang is dominant over Yin meaning if you have both in equal quantity you'll automatically be male. Kind of like how having a X and Y chromosone results in a male.
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>>4986835
Backing this >>4986841
>>4986847
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>>4986835
>Something more esoteric, like time, or space. Or perhaps stillness or passivity? Maybe even softness?
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>>4986841
Supporting. The final frontier is ripe for examination
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>>4987195
it's too late, Kanzeons gonna do a reassignment surgery and they'll become Warhammers girl-boss lesbian power couple
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>>4987259
Well, that's a way for GW to accept the quest as cannon I guess.
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>>4987262
Please god no.

>>4987259
kek
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>>4986847
>>4986841
>+1
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>>4987271
>A trans primarch? Genius! Jenkins, get BL on the phone. We're bringing back the Khan! We'll have the DEldar capture him and get a haemonculi to turn him into a strong BIPOC womyn! Thanks for the idea, now cease and desist or we'll force you to work for us for fear of encuring so many legal fees you'll have to start trafficking organs.
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>>4987262
Lmao
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>>4987259
At least this is a joke.
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>>4986835
> Something more esoteric
Supporting >>4986847
I think it's safe to say that Lieren is now the most Harmonious motherfucker in the Galaxy.

Also, I kinda wanna see Eldrad and Emps/Malcador react to the faint presence of Arianka in the warp as she fights against Chaos.

>>4986926
That's definitely a future Chief Librarian of the Legion. It even makes sense that on the surface a powerful psychic Astartes might become more aged than his 'younger' brothers, leading to a Wuxia Gandalf.
> Alternatively, future Grandmaster of the Wanderers, and he's a grumpy grandpa from New Varro.
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>>4987455
The almighty cowboy wizard.
Is Arianka free? She was trying to break the bars when we left retconia wasn't she?
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>>4987481
Kung-Fu Cowboy Psyker? Now that kicks the shit out of anything GW is doing right now.
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>>4987455
>It even makes sense that on the surface a powerful psychic Astartes might become more aged than his 'younger' brothers
IIRC there was a Night Lord who had latent psyker powers that made him age visibly, so there's a canon precedent.
>>4987481
She's getting herself free. We didn't break her out, just enabled her to do it herself. Might take her a bit though, she spoke like she didn't know when we'd meet again.
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>>4986926
that's way better than what I got.
Here is what I got for 'the lost primarch'
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>>4988158
That's about what I'd imagine a British Primarch to look like. Just pissed off and fat like a bulldog.
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>>4988160
It does have a prime minister feel to it.
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>>4988160
And smelly because he doesn't bathe.
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Calling the vote now.

Something more esoteric:10
-Celestial movement: 8

Yin and Yang interaction: 10

The moon and water:6

Darkness and night:1

Total votes: 20

So Lieren's experimentation will focus primarly upon the interaction between Yin and Yang, secondarily upon the slow dance of the stars, sun and moon and everything else will be tertiary at most

Writing now
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>>4988160
>Alastor Nigel Kingsbury-Smythe, Primarch of the XI Legion Emperor's Bulldogs
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Two of your theories, to be specific. One was based off of the commonly overlooked knowledge that opposing forces are often complementary as well. A Concept the ideals of Yin and Yang embody, as well as the cycles of the five elements of the Wuxing. If you naturally produce Yin energy, enough for its cool water to be in balance with the native fires of your raging soul, than it stands to reason that this interaction can be purposefully exploited or upset to empower not only yourself but all others who are touched by the aura of your Golden sea and its Silver mists. Indeed, if your hypothesis are correct, this stabilization and mingling of energies could prove to greatly increase the potential of your psykerist technique "The golden sea's aura fills a thousand vessels", by diverting energies that are more complimentary to the "vessels" at hand. Like pouring from a tea pot with two separated reservoirs, by dividing or unifying Yin and Yang Qi in precise percentages, the cycle without end could be strengthened and greatly bolstered.

The mutual prosperity of soul can be cultivated, spread and more efficiently harvested to heighten your own potential as you vastly heighten the potential of all cast in the brilliant and gentle light of your serenely raging essence. This practice should be the easiest to accomplish, and is partly why you have requested Kanzeon to assist you in this spiritual experimentation. For while the form she accompanies you in is little more than a puppet, her soul is real. She has a living essence, a fire like your own. While using your body as a cauldron may suffice in practice, a partner may help in lessening the initial struggles of blindly adapting a intangible concept into realized power. And your beloved "Lady hermit of the Bone Devouring Forest", as the lesser members of your sect have taken to calling her, will shake you from any prideful delusions or other similarly dangerous paths with a stinging slap as she herself requested.

However, serving as a conduit and preventer of tragedy, are not the only two reasons you asked her to join you upon this moon lit night. For the second theory you wish to test with the Gentle moonlight that is now housed inside of the core of your being, can embodied in a dance. The Celestial movements of the skies, heavens and cosmos beyond. The Slow dances of the stars and the Sun and the Moon, though a sun is simply a star by another name and what are moons but the failed cast offs of the forging of planets? However, such things do hold spiritual, metaphysical importance so that discrepancy can be dully ignored for the sake of your experiments with the capabilities Yin Qi.

"However, we cannot yet appreciate it's beauty hand in hand" You say with a sigh, as you adopt the Lotus position and practice your tried and true breathing technique to enter a state of true meditation with trained ease and haste.
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>>4988319

However you do not close your eyes, as most including yourself do while performing meditation.

And so from the edge of your vision, you see Kanzeon jump to her feet, throwing herself forward as she scampers away to pull a flexible branch of bristled barked wood to whack and lash your back with should you "Do something incredibly stood again". It's endearing in a way, the enthusiasm she has in ensuring your safety, even if it means inflicting pain upon you. Though, you realize that is partly why she is so enthusiastic, she's been waiting for a chance to properly scold you for your earlier folly and you cannot blame her for that wish. In fact, she might still hit you with that branch if the urge takes her. And you'd be forgive if she did. The lashing would be made out of love rather than contempt or spite.

Smiling for only as long as a breath, you void your emotions and empty your mind as you turn your eyes to the heavens, and the silver white moon hanging seemingly directly above the peak where you sit. You meditate upon it, and the silver streams of dim light that now falls upon you. Raising an open palm before your eyes, you summon the golden fire of your soul, and hold your hand so it is placed in the center of the moon and its light from your perception. For some time, you focus intently upon these two opposing forces and use their presence as the foundation of you silent, meditative studies.

And so you sit, piecing together and contemplating the intricacies of not only the energies of Yin and Yang, but that of your own soul. Magnus advised you to utilize this technique before your battle with Be'lakor and the tribulation you endured on Arianka's behalf. By channeling both her gentle moonlight, and your paradoxical fires in the palm of your hand, you're able to understand their nature much more intimately.

Ribbons of silver silk dance and spiral before the gilded braiser in your hand. The golden flames split, forming into a lotus blossom gently turning into the wind. Slowly the waters of the moon flow around it, and fuse their essence with its own. Half of its petals become as white as polished silver, and in its center, the symbol of Yin and Yang combined forms. Black and white, gold and silver. Subconsciously, you realize how this mimics the symbol of Chun Qiang, and are amused by the irony. For this is an embodiment of harmony and order, rather than anarchy and discord. The symbol rises from the center of the lotus in your palm, and becomes of sphere of light.

Though to an untrained, ignorant eye it would seem a form of sorcery or a parlor trick, this form of meditation combined with repeated psionic currents, has allowed you to perceive, observe and judge the altered energies of your soul. And thus know of the powers of Yin and its interactions with Yang, be they complimentary, empowering, opposed, or deliberating.
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>>4988321

Kanzeon marches around you, testing the weight of her gnarled wooden whip with a few swings as she prowls, waiting for the first sign of internal struggle or terror apparent on your brow or back, or within your dazzling golden eyes. Which, you observe, she pauses to stare into once every circuit she makes around you.

To test your mastery over the new abilities gifted unto you by the maiden within ice, by the way of your "heart of tender moonlight", you forcefully alter the sphere of raw soul energy. This allows you to manifest the powers fueled by pure Yin energy, as well as those that can only be harnessed by a balance between it and Yang, and that which can be made by their endless interaction. Having thus proven your theories, and having devised numerous new Psykerist techniques utilizing both Pure Yin Qi and an intermingling of it and its counterpart, you clap your hands together and end your meditation.

A shower of golden and silver sparks fly from your hands, as you Cloud Walk into the air, lifted by gales both warming and cooling. Kanzeon tilts her head as she watches her display, slapping her branch against her palm.

"So I won't be needing this then?" she asks, teasingly threatening you with the length of barbed wood.

"That is for you to decide" You laugh, as you offer her your hand "Care to join me? in a moonlit dance"

Without saying a word, she greedily takes your hand into her own and smiles as the two of you begin a ponderous spiral across the mountain's peak, imitating the rotation of celestial bodies.

"I have yet to solve the equation if your physical fortitude can endure the rigors of this exercise" Kanzeon giggles as she picks up her pace, forcing you to match her rhythm as the two of you dance passionately through the wilds. Though this exercise serves a deeper purpose.

For, using the same method of divination as you did to recognize Chun Qiang's existence, and applying it not only to the stars in the sky but the meridians, nerve clusters and pressure points of the human body, and by altering these pathways within your spiritual and physical self with careful application of various types of Qi, you're able to unlock even more power and ability to control that which was once uncontrollable. And through application of what you learned through Yin and Yang's interactions within and without yourself, these breakthroughs are increased ten fold! Esoteric prowess, abilities and skills become revealed to you as you lose yourself in Kanzeon's verdant green eyes.

And through this dance, you devise a more mundane talent. Combining your knowledge of the human body's functions and astrology with the flow of one's native Qi and life energy and the elegant movements that Kanzeon makes you commit for her, you have designed a third martial style!
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>>4988322

One which, while lacking in the sheer aggression, power and speed of the Fog Panther, or the serene agility and graceful passivity of the Carp style, makes up for with devastating precision and efficiency. While the Fog panther style targets the organs of the body, including the circulatory and nervous systems, it is not devoted solely the debilitating and crippling a target solely through striking those weak points. It tears its victims and brutalizes them. This style, however, requires a more skilled and careful hand to perform.

It shuts down its victims body, by rupturing organs and striking nerve clusters and blood vessels! However, should one possess psionic talent, its strikes can also upset the very soul and life force of its target. It of course, needs to be adjusted to be utilized against non human opponents and requires a truly talented individual to even approach mastery of its movements. However, in the right hands, like your own, it can made deadly and nearly undefeatable.

You have chosen to dub this style, focusing on finger strikes, pinches and kicks The Night Crane. As its movements very much resemble the hunting methods of those avian scavengers and their courting dance.

Kanzeon headbutts you.

"Sometimes your perception proves to be woefully lacking" She scolds, pinching your ear as your dance slows "Judging from the sudden swell of triumphant thoughts, you have proven the second theory"

"And enjoyed a dance with my beloved" You coo, as she smiles and the two of you continue "I gathered all necessary information and required knowledge hours ago"

"Then why" She says, before realizing exactly why you've continue your dance for so long "You incorrigible flirt, you knew what I was implying with my movements and let me continue performing them, didn't you"

"As humble as I am, I to enjoy being courted and praised, especially by you" You sneer, and recoil expecting another headbutt, but instead receive a kiss upon your brow.

"I can forgive this deception" She teases "Shall we continue our dance"

"It's good practices" You laugh as you lift her and turn her through the air before setting her back down, and resume your intricate, swaying dance with her "Besides, work on the Tao's reservoir won't begin until dawn, we have hours to wile away"

"Perhaps we can go swimming" Kanzeon hastily suggests, before you could suggest any distraction yourself "No, I just enjoy the sensation of being cooled by water"

"Whatever you say" You tease, and receive the headbutt you had anticipated earlier.
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>>4988323

What do you do, when work in the Tao Region is done?

>Find a worthy opponent to test your new Martial and Psykerist techniques upon

>Search for Liang and Jiang, you've kept in touch with the rest of your companions, but the twins have been radio silent ever since they fled their Vishnu Paramours.

>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.

>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats

>Write in
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>>4988327
>>Talk to Guozhi about the strange material added to his staff
>>Find a worthy opponent to test your new Martial and Psykerist techniques upon
Let's attempt to teleport on Kamal using the hair he stole.
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>>4988327
>Find a worthy opponent to test your new Martial and Psykerist techniques upon
>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats
It's getting to be that time again. War is on the horizon.
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>>4988327
>> Find a worthy opponent to test your new Martial and Psykerist techniques upon
> Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
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>>4988327
>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats
>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
>Talk to Guozhi about the strange material added to his staff
>Go check the rumors of the old Dai monastery and cleanse it. It least you can do for those that helped you at your hour of need.
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>>4988327
>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats
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>>4988327
>>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats
>>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
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>>4988327
>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats
>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if yu can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
>Talk to Guozhi about the strange material added to his staff
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>>4988327
>Find a worthy opponent to test your new Martial and Psykerist techniques upon

>Search for Liang and Jiang, you've kept in touch with the rest of your companions, but the twins have been radio silent ever since they fled their Vishnu Paramours.
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>>4988327
>>Search for Liang and Jiang, you've kept in touch with the rest of your companions, but the twins have been radio silent ever since they fled their Vishnu Paramours.
Better bring our healer's kit, we're gonna have to treat a couple of crushed pelvises.
>>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
>>Talk to Guozhi about the strange material added to his staff
Also, did anyone else know that the lightning on Night Lords armor isn't paint and is instead supposed to flicker and move like it's real? Because I just found out.
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>>4988327
>>Search for Liang and Jiang, you've kept in touch with the rest of your companions, but the twins have been radio silent ever since they fled their Vishnu Paramours.

>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
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>>4988347
Support.

I vote we kill the sorcerer. Time to research is doom for us
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>>4988327
>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats
>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
>Search for Liang and Jiang, you've kept in touch with the rest of your companions, but the twins have been radio silent ever since they fled their Vishnu Paramours.
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>>4988604
Gotta kill him before he does his ritual.
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>>4988613
Indeed. The Khornate Vishnu is gonna be a problem no matter what, but we have a pretty good idea as to how bad it possibly get.
Our Shuni friend on the other hand stands to become exponentially stronger if we're too slow in dealing with him.
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>>4988347
>+1
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>>4988327
>>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats

>Find a worthy opponent to test your new Martial and Psykerist techniques upon
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>>4988327
>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.

>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats

WAR!
OOOOFFF!
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR!
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>>4988327
>>Search for Liang and Jiang, you've kept in touch with the rest of your companions, but the twins have been radio silent ever since they fled their Vishnu Paramours.
>>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
>>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats
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>>4988327
>Find a worthy opponent [Shunni psyker]
>Return to Jinhai.
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>>Search for Liang and Jiang, you've kept in touch with the rest of your companions, but the twins have been radio silent ever since they fled their Vishnu Paramours.
>>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
>>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats

I kind of want to present this style to Magnus. It fits his personality.
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>>4988811
He shall become muscle wizard
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>>4988327
> Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon
>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats
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>>4988564
> Also, did anyone else know that the lightning on Night Lords armor isn't paint and is instead supposed to flicker and move like it's real? Because I just found out.
Yup, they had electoos or whatever the AdMech refers to those augments. They're basically just ornamentation meant for the Cool Factor rather than any practical purposes.

> inb4 Night Lords salty and REEEE that the Emperor's Misfits stole their stormy mantle shtick.

>>4988811
I can support sharing new discoveries with Magnus. Really, at this point, there's no reason to keep secrets or withhold information from him.
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>>4989204
...Fuck. For a brief second, thought I was commenting on the other quest.

That being said; the Temerity and Second Sons kicking ass together with the Thousand Sons and War Hounds would be a great commission piece.
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>>4988327
>>Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.
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>>4989204
>Yup, they had electoos or whatever the AdMech refers to those augments.
Arco-projectors, I think they're called. Some HH rulebook mentioned them in the legionnaire fact file things they use to give you examples of how to paint or whatever.
>They're basically just ornamentation meant for the Cool Factor rather than any practical purposes.
Curze won't like it if he hears you say that scaring the shit down your enemy's pantleg isn't practical. Think dreadnoughts used them to play clips from the Night Lords greatest hits too.
>>4989208
Surprised the 2nd is on speaking terms with the 12th, come to think about it. Granted, it took until the early Crusade for their honor roll to suggest that they were teamkilling fucktards, but even during the UW people thought of them as highly-aggressive savages. Everyone except Kharn though. Nice dude, Kharn. Helluva guy.
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>>4988327

>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats
Warn him that we might be about to kick a hornets nest, and that whoever we don't gank might use the opportunity to attack.


>>Find a worthy opponent to test your new Martial and Psykerist techniques upon
Go after the wizard who gets his power from eating souls, with our new soul disrupting martial style, seems pretty hard counter to his powers. Also i concur with the Anon who suggested that the longer we wait the more likely a chaos alliance is.
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>>4989229
> Surprised the 2nd is on speaking terms with the 12th, come to think about it. Granted, it took until the early Crusade for their honor roll to suggest that they were teamkilling fucktards, but even during the UW people thought of them as highly-aggressive savages. Everyone except Kharn though. Nice dude, Kharn. Helluva guy.
Part of it is probably how GW wrote them, because if all the Astartes were affected in some way by how their Primarchs' grew and matured, even before meeting their Legion, then the War Hounds wouldn't have been such RAGEing assholes until after Angron took control.

The savages thing could also just be because of the early legionnaires origins as sons of techno-barbarian tribes, but since the Second Sons are already pretty fucking chill, I don't think that'll be a problem.

Great guy that Kharne!
> Not at all like Erebus.
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>>4989299
>from "Kharne the Betrayer" to "Kharne the Befriender"

>>4989204
>Really, at this point, there's no reason to keep secrets or withhold information from him.
Big question I want to know is if Magnus is aware of Chaos, or should we just tell him now since it would be redundant to not tell him?

>>4988813
Lieren & Magnus, the brothers of Might and Magic
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>>4988327
>>4988335
support.

Also our tiger style we developed from the beastmen would be pretty cool with psionic disruption. That was where Lieren set himself the challenge of kidney punching all the peasant guards in the fortress to incapacitate them, rather actively kill anyone.
Right after we went through the bone devouring forest the first time.

Kamal Kanan doesn't need any handicap on our part. Lets ruin him.
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>>4989506
Fog Panther style was a style about killing. actually disabling people takes a well versed practitioner I think, since it's so easy to accidentally kill someone with it.

Night crane by disposition seems dedicated to disabling rather than killing, which makes it more ideal for disruption.

So while I think adding a few special moves to disrupt tougher enemies with our Panther style, I don't think it needs a lot of them.
Can't use magic if you die.
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>>4989419
> Big question I want to know is if Magnus is aware of Chaos, or should we just tell him now since it would be redundant to not tell him?
Well he witnessed the assault on Lieren by the four warp entities, and beat on bitch boi Belakor. He even had a moment of humility when he realized Lieren was trying to protect him, and absolute EXTERMINATUS-tier rage when he rejected Tzeentch.
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>>4989513
I gotta admit, Magnus' killing rage made me feel such an affection for him. It went against his every normal instinct to study and just went "I'LL KILL YOU!"

that's something special
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>>4988327
>>Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats
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>>4989299
>then the War Hounds wouldn't have been such RAGEing assholes until after Angron took control.
Or until Angron got NAILED. Something to look out for, I guess.
>>4989419
>should we just tell him now since it would be redundant to not tell him?
We should not, Emps made it clear that we are to not spread the truth about Chaos to our brothers. At least not without his explicit permission. Lieren even thought that Magnus would believe the explination the Emps tried to give us and that the only reason he himself didn't was because of his eyes.
>>4989511
It'll be interesting to see if we make a defese-oriented fighting style later on. I think we should name it the Turtle Style or something similar, to further cleanse the stain that mars the Dai's honor. Still regretting that decision.
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>>4989662
>Or until Angron got NAILED. Something to look out for, I guess.
We should invest hard into cloning tech and primarch research. We were going to build Kanzeon a better body than her puppet I think, so we might as well take the continent opportunity to learn those two things so we can later use them on our brother Angry Ron.

>turtle style
I like it. Where the carpet style was idea if you have the reflexes and speed to dodge, the turtle style would teach one about natural resilience and the ability to parry attacks, at the best way to minimize damage to ones self. Something like that?
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>>4989672
>Something like that?
Parries, blocks, mind-over-matter pain tolerance, redirecting enemy blows to less-vital or more-armored places, slow, methodical mindset, all that fun stuff. Sort of like Soresu from Star Wars. Defend until the enemy makes a mistake or exhausts themself, then capitalize or leave. Let them run themselves ragged. Think that fight in the Matrix where Agent Smith tries ro rail on Neo, who's blocking one-handed and looking away.
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>>4989672
>>4989712
I actually kinda envision a defensive style to be based on both the octopus and the snapping turtle; using every available piece of the body to redirect or deflect any blow to vital areas, observing and learning the enemy's patterns, patiently enduring until the opportunity for a devastating and decisive counter attack is revealed.

IRL I think the best comparison might be a fusion of Muay Thai and Hung Gar, but I'm hardly a martial arts fanatic so don't quote me.
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>>4989855
Kinda what I was getting at. How else will Malal ensure each one of our martial styles corresponds to a Chaos God? Fog panther for Khorne, carp for Slaanesh, night crane for Tzeentch, and this hypothetical turtle form for Papa N. Though that begs the question how does one make a paradoxical fighting style and will we have to discover the other 3 courts if we want the maximum number of forms, if indeed this isn't just coincidence?
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>>4989984
I don't see a need to actively court the analogies.

But the paradoxical means would be "Fighting without fighting" Which frankly I think would be Something close to redirection style fighting, turning counter to counter, their punches dislocating their sockets, their kicks being turned into a sweep, make their every attack hurt them.
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>>4990139
>I don't see a need to actively court the analogies.
IIRC last time we did the reward was a firey ouroborous soul and a pseudo-Waaagh! field. Pretty good track record, but I'm biased.
>make their every attack hurt them
Big fan of that idea, the only other option I see is to not make it a martial art at all, but rather some sort of diplomatic system geared towards stopping fights with words instead of actions. Something I don't think either of the looming threats will respond well to.
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>>4990139
>"Fighting without fighting"
So like Tai Chi but actually useful?

>>4990219
>fighting but with words
at that point its not martial arts. Hard pass on that friend.
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>>4990242
No. The common principle of "soft overcoming hard" I guess you could say is similar, but redirection style movements have almost nothing in common with Tai Chi.
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>>4990242
>at that point its not martial arts.
Yeah man, I said that.
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>>4990219
>pseudo-waaaaaagghhhh!!!

That would be awesome, imagine our allies becoming stronger and better every day till soldiers on the level of cui-fu are the norm around us

Of course they'll never be astartes level but they can atleast actually land a blow on them instead of being babies hitting Panthers
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>>4990293
>That would be awesome
It IS awesome, but not quite what you're pitching. "The Golden Sea's Aura Fills a Thousand Vessels" is the inverse of "Mien of the Companion Loyal and True." We've only used it to share memories and emotion thus far, but presumably it could be used to bolster the skill, strength, and coordination of a fighting force, so long as Lieren and the soldiers both hold strong emotions for each other. Which is a sure thing, really. As KOTOR is a hot topic these days, I think comparing it to Battle Meditation is apt.
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>>4990341
I remember comparing it to Battle Meditation as soon as we found out we had that sort of ability.
It's actually viable since we're not some Jedi tart.
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>>4989984
>>4990139
Clearly the perfect martial art to counter Chun Qiang's madness is the peculiar path of Drunken Boxing.
> "We have no plan and no idea what we're doing, but that just means the enemy can't predict what we'll do next!"
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>>4990352
I've noticed that none of our styles really capitalize on grappling. Stuff like joint locks, blood chokes, projections, etc...
While it'd probably be foolish to try and wrestle with a Tyranid or something, I'm sure it would be a viable style when dealing with humanoid opponents.
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>>4990341
>>4990293
>>4990219
Have you considered Battle Formations?
For reference those are magic kung fu tactic formations in Xianxia and Wuxia.
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>>4990361
Do they account for 3 dimensional space?
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>>4990344
>It's actually viable since we're not some Jedi tart.
NGL, Kanzeon's responses to our teasing kinda reminds me of Bastilla's responses to the joke answers to her questionnaire. If Bastilla could take a joke, that is.
>>4990352
>Drunken Boxing
Clearly something we develop after a night on the town with Leman.
>>4990361
Never heard of them, but do go on. I'm not one of the -xia savants, I just can do some half-decent write-ins every other month.
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>>4990374
> Heresy kicks off
> Chaos tries to isolate Lieren so he can't interfere, stuck with Leman and all they can do is drink and fight
> Against the Dark Gods expectations, getting hammered and punching each other repeatedly was exactly what they needed to bond
> Bitch boi Belakor makes an appearance of course, at the head of a daemon army
> "I HAVE STUDIED ALL OF YOUR TECHNIQUES-" typical douchebag monologue
> Surprise Double Lariat from the two bros as close to blackout drunk as two Primarchs can get, while Space Wolves and Fog Panthers RIP AND TEAR with a motherfucking prejudice
> Leman cracks him in the teeth with a chair
> Lieren ruins his fucking knee caps in the dirtiest deed since his MOMMA
> "YOU BASTARDS! YOU THINK THIS IS OVER?!"
> Boss Music Initiated
> "This is only a taste of your deserved punishment, worm."
> 'Kanzeon has entered the arena! ROUND TWO BEGIN!'
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So interesting note, we are probably gonna be the emperors most trusted since we actually know about chaos and all that crap and have shown we actively hate that shit, so when the heresy goes down we might get stuck guarding the big E and his webway project. Which keeps us out of most of the war, and we still get to save magnus from chaos and it's fuckery.
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>>4990431
As important as that responsibility would be, I'm pretty sure it would absolutely devastate him to stay on Terra when the citizens of the Imperium need him the most.
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>>4990431
Dorn is still the best man for the job, he stood against 9 LEGIONS of traitor astartes all by himself (jaghatai was also there but he barely counts as a primarch)

All I want is to return Terra to its state of green and blue, after that we go out on crusade and bring planets to our side so that they don't listen to girlyman and his dumbass book when the time comes
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>>4990431
Lieren might be better to go out on sneaking mission and ruin the backline of any siege, if we go by the way we dealt with war so far.
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>>4990411
Lieren's ult is obviously him letting Kanzeon and her sisters off their metaphorical chains so they can beat the piss out of his opponent.
>>4990431
You know what they say about counting chickens prematurely. Big E might trust us with things he wouldn't trust others with, but that doesn't mean he'll trust us the most. He won't, for example, trust us to utterly annihilate a noncompliant world, genocide more reasonable xenos, or burn cities to the ground because they refuse the Imperial Truth. Hell, we're gonna be in a pickle when we hear that most of the Emperor's Crusade-era philosophy clashes with the. Besides, no matter what we do, Alpharius is his favorite son.
>>4990494
>All I want is to return Terra to its state of green and blue
Imperium Ascendant might be up your alley, anon.
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>>4990549
>the.
*the Journey
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>>4990549
>alpharius is his favorite son

Sauce?

I thought it was between horus and vulkan as his favorite
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>>4990555
In Alpharius' primarch novel it was revealed that he was the first primarch recovered, as his pod landed on Terra. Emps raised him from infancy in secret and when he found Omegon, they switched names, making the original Alpharius a loyalist who assumed control of the legion after Omegon, who was going by his brother's name (and was a traitor) the one killed by Dorn on Pluto. Granted, the first words in the book are "I am Alpharius and this is a lie," but whatever.
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>>4990565
That's honestly kind of cool.
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>>4990597
It's a good read, I thought it combined all of the rumored origins of the Twins in a way that was unique, yet still plausable. And best of all, it's you're intentionally able to write it off as non-canon if you have another theory you prefer. Which is something BL should be doing a lot more frequently, given their track record of late.
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>>4990374
To be fair, Bastilla was checking to make sure that your brainwashing was still in effect and you didn't suspect anything was wrong.

You joking kind of made that difficult, and if you were just covering your tracks, we were in trouble.
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>>4990565
>>4990597
Gay and noncanonpilled, I refuse to believe this is true and rate this up there on the worst decision GW has ever made since making ollinius pious a perpetual (which is completely false and to state otherwise is punishable by death)
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>>4990681
T. Chaosfag
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>>4990689
Heretic
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>>4990681
>I refuse to believe this is true
Fair
>and rate this up there on the worst decision GW has ever made since making ollinius pious a perpetual
Significantly less fair. Unlike Ollanius, this doesn't contradict any previous lore (like him, Erda, the Dark Angels making it back to the Siege, Amar Astarte, I could go on), nor does it change integral parts of the Heresy. It fits with the lore presented and events depicted in the Black Books, Praetorian of Dorn, and The Serpent Beneath, instead of clumsily overriding them. Even Alpharius being discovered before Horus and being kept secret by Emps makes some degree of sense, especially thematically.
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>>4990494
>All I want is to return Terra to its state of green and blue
Terra hasnt been those colours for more than 15k years, seriously, sometime during the golden age/dark age, someone literally stole Terras oceans when the planet was having catastrophic envionnmental collapse for like the 3rd time.
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>>4990565
Legionnaires have also been heard using the warcry of "Death to the enemies of the false emperor!"
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>>4990883
Water. Stones.

I wouldn't be saying anything if I thought it impossible
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>>4990922
We probably would have to destroy some hives and relocated people to refill the oceans.
I'm not sure of the emperor would approve us spending a lot of time fixing Terra and other fucked up worlds instead of crusading, but if we managed to pull it off it would be worth it.
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>>4990932
Primarchs spent a couple decades on Terra being educated by big e,the crusade s themselves went on for centuries

We're a primarch man, we have the time
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>>4990886
Alpharius' post-Heresy motivations can be boiled down to "wanting to goof on people." Man is bored.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait

Talk to Guozhi about the strange material added to his staff: 5

Find a worthy opponent to test your new Martial and Psykerist techniques upon:10

Return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of your latest projects to him, and use the opportunity to warn him of the looming threats:16

Check on the New Varro citizens, and see if you can gleam any knowledge from them that'll be useful in the days to come, and recruit any genius from their ranks to assist in further "naturalizing" the technology from the Aeldari and Kanzeon.:13

Go check the rumors of the old Dai monastery and cleanse it. It least you can do for those that helped you at your hour of need.:1

Search for Liang and Jiang, you've kept in touch with the rest of your companions, but the twins have been radio silent ever since they fled their Vishnu Paramours.:6

Total votes: 23

Alright, So Lieren will return to Jinhai's court, and present the results of the latest development projects to him, as well as check on the New Varro Refugees and see if he can gleam any knowledge from them that'll prove useful, and talent scout any talented individuals or rare geniuses from their ranks to assist him in further research

Writing now

>>4990411
I imagine she shows up like the undertaker
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>>4991034
Dammit.
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>>4991122
What are you mad about?
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>>4991130
Annoyed that we aren't ganking the sorceror. The one that is going to cast a ritual on us using the hair he has. Also annoyed people aren't picking up on the idea that asking Guozhi about the material on the staff was to learn about the friendly Eldar but less so.
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>>4991130 he voted for ask guozhi about his staff and find a worthy opponent (and people somehow thought that meant directly challenging khan)
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While you enjoy your moonlit frolic through the wilds of the Tao's lands, and the philosophical discussion you have with Kanzeon as the sun rises above the Shangrala shroud of fog and mist, work takes precedence before any personal satisfaction or pleasure. The reservoir that Tao Dandan has requested presents no difficulty in either its planning or its construction. After all, there's no need to flood a plain, or canyon or forcefully migrate villages who would be behind a damn. Her father and his predecessors, though they were greedy men who drained wealth from their land and vitality from their people, have surprisingly left a worthwhile legacy beyond the current lady of their house and her genius in the art of demolition and the application of explosive ordinance in war far.

They abused the land, and wounded it and to a untrained observer, the quarries and mines they dug in search of material wealth and glittering babbles would serve no purpose besides to mar the beautiful vistas and dells of their home or serve as the hideaway from bandits, brigands and other criminal elements and villainous blackguards. Certainly, with a few adjustments and careful expansion of those quarries and mines which have been completed depleted of useful minerals and resources, and The Tao can become a land famed for its great artificial lakes and fertility, Like the Former province of Shen. And it is certainly a less environmentally disruptive and damaging option than Tao Dandan's suggestion of simply sheering off entire mountain tops with shaped charges and heavy industrial machinery. Though, she managed to convince you, during an incredibly awkward dinner with her family and their remaining vassals to request Jinhai to agree to the flattening of one of their mountains to serve as a hangar for "Shirong's steel birds" as the aircraft the wise scholar designed with Kanzeon's guidance have been named. In fact, according to Dandan, your dear friend had request permission to name one of the heaviest classes of craft he had engineered after your beloved. Which was a compliment that greatly pleased your now nigh constant companion, and put her in jovial and high spirits for the rest of the evening.

Once construction had progressed sufficiently enough that the engineers and architects who have long served you could complete it without guidance, you and Kanzeon traveled to the plains of Kang to bargain with Kang Shan and hopefully explain that the power station he wants built would be in a disadvantageous position if he demanded it to be constructed almost directly on top of the wall at their border. You have never seen a Lion so easily Cowed when Kanzeon aided you in this momentous task, though Lord Kang was cordial and polite in his conduct with both of you, as his line still owes you a vast debt for healing Kang Yongrui.
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>>4991149

Though the heir himself wisely made himself scarce and left on a week long outing to one of the martial schools erected by your ministry and officials.

He extended his stay then when Kanzeon suggested you teach him the new style you had devised. But, tormenting those who hate that they must respect you with your company and forcing them to maintain a genial veneer may amuse Kanzeon, but the Lions and the Panther are as oil and water, and you can see the contempt still seething in Lord Kang's eyes even as he toasts to your health. Obligations and fear of losing face prevent him from speaking his mind after the generosity you've shown to them, and prosperity you've brought to their lands. So you take your leave, and find out later on the road Kanzeon recorded Kang Shan's infuriated expression after she toyed with him by comparing your numerous valorous deeds to his own, which in a brilliant twisting of phrase and wordplay could only be heard as a compliment, though it proved poisonous to his heart.

A detour to Dai lands, to verify their reports of mineral deposits and sign the edict allowing them to begin mining operations, as well as marking the distance they were allowed to mind, was ultimately uneventful and after accepting Dai Niu's gracious offer to act as your host for a few days, you left for Xue lands followed by a small entourage of officials, ministers and labor masters whose expertise was no longer needed in the lands of the turtles. Though, this party swelled as your motorized carriage passed by villages and the handful of young cities that have sprung up at crossroads of the Giant's road and the rail line. Many of them seemed amazed that there were two Giants upon Shangrala, and one old woman to Kanzeon's dismay and your amusement, performed a folk rite to bless her with fertility and healthy children. You have often been told your gaze feels like an assault upon one's soul but if looks could kill, that old woman would have found her grave that day.

Your arrival in the transformed marshes of Xue was eventful, as Xue Liang nearly made it a ceremony. He was dressed in the new style of nobility he and his lackwitted wife had innovated, with a towering hat and fusion of a vest and robe, looking more like the men from New Varro than Long-Jia. The lord of the serpents was careful to make the festival subdued, though it did not lack in pomp or prestige. He knew your views on wastefulness, and kept his spending to mostly hiring performers and refurbishing the town your carriage arrived in. In fact, it seemed he had put most of his vast wealth towards modernizing the province. If there were any region in Long-Jia to revival the capital and its surrounding lands, it would be Xue! The change from poor backwater, to the modernized gem of the new dynasty, was incredible. Xue Liang had taken yours words to heart, it seemed, and ensured every family beneath him enjoyed the same comforts and commodities as his own did.
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However, this also meant you had to disperse a superstitious mob who believed electrical lights were powered by the souls of the dead, and that circulating fans and air conditioning stole their life force. And before you could work on mapping the new railway or advising Xue Liang were to place the foundations for his new factory, you had to explain to another group of suspicious peasantry that no, eels and other fish could not spawn in the water pipes, nor did have a shower or bath in your house produce enough humidity to rot its wooden walls especially when one lives in a marshland. After giving Xue Liang blessing to name his first born son after you, you and Kanzeon took your leave and headed for Jinhai's court and palace, leaving behind the land of industry behind you.

It was strange, seeing the road you made lit by electricity, seeing all of the people enjoying the comforts and ease of living brought upon by technology and how it changed their ways of life, and how their traditions adapted to it and how their culture endured despite the changes. It was also somewhat amusing to see men and women preach and tell stories of you and your companions that were nothing but fantasy.

And since your relationship with Kanzeon was common knowledge, you heard many wild theories of her origin. That she was a second gift sent down by the heavens, that she was a normal woman you healed, a giant you freed from some cruel sorcerer, or even that she was born when your blood landed upon a lotus flower, that she was a noble spirit who took a material form to stay by your side, or that she was an ogre you civilized and tamed. Some of these stories were admittedly more kind than others and some forced you to restrain Kanzeon from throttling the poor ignorant soul who spoke them.

However, your journey across the kingdom had one last detour. The Lai had stepped forward to host the refugees from New Varro, and by your suspicion were attempting to domesticate the few alien creatures that had not proven overtly violent towards humans or could feasibly threaten the surrounding wildlife and upset the balance of nature. Lord Lai was surprised by your visit, and gave his Brother Lai Song orders to escort you and "consort" through their lands, which you had rarely before found a reason to visit besides when you built your road through them.

And, from Lai Song's love of gossip and gregarious nature, you learned his brother along with Yin Jie was scheming and maneuvering in the courts to have the New Varro people and Vishnu relocated to the Cui region and to other lands where the nobility were suddenly and lethally ousted from their seats of power, and had already drawn a list of those who could be given noble titles, authority and privledge.

Nothing to concern yourself over, however, you can't help but feel Yin Jie is going to use this as an opportunity to to forge internal alliances and, alongside lord Lai, have several new noble lineages indebted to their own.
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>>4991153

Cunning, surely, but not illegal or malicious. Yin Jie was a statesman where his brother was a General. Though, you'd think he'd meet his match in both politics and scheming if he challenged Lady Qian.

The New varro people, especially their children and elders, were overjoyed to meet you and quickly accepted Kanzeon and just figured "She's just built from the same stuff as yerself" or "Eh, figured there was more of yer flock out their, every bird has a song partner, so they say" . Old Winchester was glad to show you are their small community, and even introduced you to expecting mothers who had "sworn upon hell and high water" They'd name their children after their liberators. Indeed, one burbling infant was thrust in Kanzeon's arms who was named "Bye", in clear though clumsy reference to Bai, who the New Varro knew well and "That sharp shooter was tough as nails" as Winchester put it.

There was little to be learned from them in the way of technology, as though their world had remnants of an advance civilization and was more advance than Shangrala before you uplifted it, none of them knew how their "Doohickeys" worked exactly, though they did provided other useful information. Namely different designs for firearms, and "tricks of the trade" that could be applied to any number of jobs and duties upon Shangrala. Wichester, upon your request, even introduced you to a few old friends of his, "rougherriders" as he called him. Men who could challenge and maybe even best the Lai in a contest of riding, and a few had even seen that "Mean ol bastard of a beast" and his "Missus and kid" and tended to him. They seemed surprised he ate meat as they had heard horses were primarily herbivores. They also mentioned how dull oxen were compared to their "Rattlers", and bemoaned how they couldn't ride those "Big chickens you got". Which presumably refers to Cliffjumpers? And your visit did prove worth while, as some of their "Youngins" Had proven themselves naturally adapt craftsmen and talented engineers in the way of men and women like Shan and Dandan. You gave these prodigies' parents a jade slip and official edicts allowing them entrance to any of the academies across the kingdom, and explained to them exactly how benefical such an education would prove.

And with that done, you left the village of refugees, accompanied now by OId Winchester who "Always wanted to meet a king".

"So, you gonna put that shiny jewel on the ladies finger?" he whispered as the three of you road across Jinhai's glass bridge, while Kanzeon marveled at the clarity of the lake below and the species of carp teaming within it.

You looked to the old man, who addressed you in his native tongue, as you inspected the gem you took from Cearnarch's black tongue. He immediately noticed your quizzical expression and explained

"Guess you fog folk don't marry the same way We's do" He said with a shrug "Or is you two already together?"
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>>4991154

"No reason to officiate love as deep and true as ours" You explain to him while Kanzeon is still distracted "and no, this jewel intrigues me for other reasons"

"Well still, it'd only be proper" Winchester says, scolding you "Why, my old woman would whip you if she knew you ain't taken any vows"

"She sounds like a few woman I know" You chuckle as you carefully place the strange gem back into your satchel, before taking from it a small scroll you wrote for old winchester so he doesn't embarrass himself in court or offended Jinhai or Daiyu "Here, you'll need to read this"

"What for?" He balked as the guard's stationed at the end of the bridge approached you with spot light lanterns, bowing as they noticed you were dressed in the regalia of the Grand architect.

"We "fog folk" have different etiquette and manners than your people, and though Jinhai is too kind to, the laws once dictated that a breach of protocol could result in the offenders execution" You say as Winchester's face turns pale enough to be mistaken for a corpse, before you laugh "Though I hung every lawmaker and noble who'd demand such a thing, now it'd just result in a loss of face"

"They'll rip mah face off!?"Winchester yelps, to the confusion of the guards who cannot speak New Varroish

You sigh, and spend sometime explaining to the old man the concept of face
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Jinhai sat, wearing a beaming smile as his Queen, Daiyu, sat beside him, radiant in her gravidy. The king has his hair tied into a regal bun, having set his imperial Mian Guan aside. He also wore an esteemed, well kept mustache and strip beard. Daiyu, strangely, kept her hair undone, like Kanzeon. And you realized, so did all the ladies of the court. The latest fashion seemed to have abandoned the careful grooming and styling of the previous generation in favor for wearing their hair long and wild in imitation of the "Giant's beloved". Though the men still preened their hair and beards, perhaps because Jinhai still chose to. Who could say.

"So, my brother and friend, I've heard you've made great progress in encouraging and ensuring the development of our country" Jinhai said, addressing you as he toyed with a fan, smacking it against his open palm "Kang Shan held audience with me not to long ago, to inform me of your and Lady Kanzeon's guidance, Xue Liang sent me a letter praising your peacekeeping efforts in his lands, Dai Gang mentioned your flawless manners"

Tao Dandan asked if she could turn the mountainous region she ruled into a flat plain, you mused, making Kanzeon giggle as she read your thoughts.

Jinhai sighed, walking to you as you knelt before him and then proceed to look into your eyes as he offered you hand

"Though I can tell you have reasons besides hearing my praises and receiving my command to come here, something troubles you" He says, as direct as he always was "Perhaps you wish to have my blessing for marriage? But that seems to foolish a thing for you to ask for"
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>>4991156

He tapped his fan on his chin and sighed, closing his eyes.

"So what troubles you then, Brother Lieren?" He simply asks

You close your eyes and bow your head

"I believe war is on the horizon" you answer, and silence the entire court as you stand to your full height and open your eyes "Dangerous men rule beyond our borders, and have already made known their ambitions and malice"

Jinhai nods and unfurls his fan to hide both of your mouths' movements from prying eyes

"The people would not accept another war so soon" He whispers into your ear "As long as we're the aggressors that is, I know the Vishnu cannot be trusted, and Lord Kang has advised us to crush the Shuni with our new weapons for months, but the common people, empowered by our efforts, would balk if we declared war as they rise and settle into the prosperity we promised them. But"

He leaned closer to you, eyes focused upon the "brand" You've been marked with

"I cannot allow my people to remain threatened by whore sons like the Yan, I trust you Lieren, and I trust your judgement. Your official position's reach and influence, does not matter. Advise me" Jinhai commands, his eyes burning with conviction as his mien becomes one of strong leadership and wisdom.

What do you advise Jinhai, Lieren.

>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"

>"Give me orders to approach them as a diplomat, extending the Giant's road into their lands. My beliefs will offend them, I'll be attacked, and as the head of one of the kingdom's core ministries and a deeply respected figure throughout the kingdom, the people will demand retribution. I will allow no other man to sacrificed in this manipulation, and I will survive anything either tyrant can muster. Allow me to be the spark that lights their funeral pyres, Benevolence"

>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"

>"We have proof they've sent agents to murder and harass our people. We have numerous eye witnesses and evidence to support this. The people love you Jinhai, tell them of the blood maddened berserker, the mutated sorcerer, and they will accept that the Vishnu and Shuni must be fought to free them of the tyranny of madmen!"

>Write in
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>>4991157
>>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
>>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"

Kamal has got to go ASAP. God knows what he is plotting but it can't be anything good. Killing him will, worst case, get rid of their greatest sorcerer and piss them off, which matters little since they most likely hate us anyway (if they don't just wait till they see our forehead). Best case scenario they will utterly shit themselves, and go into mass panic. I predict it'll be something of a mix, but it'll be well worth it.

And yeah, allies are good. Even if its just economic assistance, anything would help. And any alliance will make future PROSPERITY easier.
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>>4991157
> "Give me orders to approach them as a diplomat, extending the Giant's road into their lands. My beliefs will offend them, I'll be attacked, and as the head of one of the kingdom's core ministries and a deeply respected figure throughout the kingdom, the people will demand retribution. I will allow no other man to sacrificed in this manipulation, and I will survive anything either tyrant can muster. Allow me to be the spark that lights their funeral pyres, Benevolence."
For obvious reasons, this will absolutely incite violent retribution on behalf of beloved Golden Eyes.

> "Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies."
It shouldn't be hard for the common people to understand that if the Bask, seemingly a people of humble farmers and herders like many of them, are suffering the depredations of the Shuni and Vishnu then it won't be long until the reborn kingdom is under assault. Prosperity is a lure to avaricious villains, and the only way to insure that the next generation can enjoy the fruits of their labors is to defend Long-Jia with fire and steel.

> Send a group of diplomats, likely one of the friendly noble houses like the Song, along with the Wanderers and the Brotherhood to investigate the Bask region while you focus your attention on the Shuni and black-hearted Kamal Kanan.
Should allow us to cover more territory, plus if there's any SHENANIGANS afoot we can trust them to Get Shit Done.
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>>4991157
>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"
We have to remove Kamal, and reach to Daiyu's brother on the Bask's land to help witg diplomacy.
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>>4991157
>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"
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>>4991157
>>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
I disagree with killing the sorcerer first. We must kill the Sinha before he gets too strong. Then we can use his technology, and maybe rescue Kanzeons sister, and use them against Kamal making the fight easier.
Simply put,
>Target Nitya Sinha first

>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"
Something feels off about them.
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>>4991157

>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"

>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"

Our hands draw blood so the common man does not.
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>>4991157
>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"
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>>4991157
>>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"
>"We have proof they've sent agents to murder and harass our people. We have numerous eye witnesses and evidence to support this. The people love you Jinhai, tell them of the blood maddened berserker, the mutated sorcerer, and they will accept that the Vishnu and Shuni must be fought to free them of the tyranny of madmen!"
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>>4991157
>>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"

"Still Jinhai my good friend, when i move against the great sorcerer, i know for sure that he will move as well. In fact even Nitya Sinha might move against us. And the Bask we don t know about their position."
"Remain wary and prepared."
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>>4991157

>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
>"We have proof they've sent agents to murder and harass our people. We have numerous eye witnesses and evidence to support this. The people love you Jinhai, tell them of the blood maddened berserker, the mutated sorcerer, and they will accept that the Vishnu and Shuni must be fought to free them of the tyranny of madmen!"
The proof we have is enough to get the people behind a war, also REMEMBER WE HAVE YET TO FIND NURGLES CULTISTS ON CHANGRALA.
I'm betting the Bask are suffering him like the Vishnu/Shuni suffer Khorne/tzeentch. No other major nations or peoples have been mentioned and nurgle has been utterly absent so far.
If anyone goes into Bask lands it has to be Lieren because his eyes are the only thing that can guarantee there are no chaos shenanigans afoot there.
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>>4991294
>Support
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>>4991157
>>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"
I remember it being mentioned that the Bask have knights... They wouldn't be inspired by Bretonnia, would they?
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>>4991394
Perhaps. It would be quite a damning thing however.

>>4991157
>Kanzeon and I will just kill one of them ourselves.
>We have proof, tell them.
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>>4991157
>>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
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>>4991157
>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
>"We have proof they've sent agents

>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"

The Long-Jia can test their diplomatic corps.
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>>4991157
>>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"
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>>4991157
>Let us reach out to the Bask.
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>>4991394
Maybe their Byzantine or Ottoman (the sick man of Europe) inspired.
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>>4991394
>>4991827
From their name I'd guess they're Spanish or Iberian peninsula in general inspired.
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>>4991157
>"Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves. I've grown stronger than they can imagine, and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his actions. Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu. The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us. He must die"

>"Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts. The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors. If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies"
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>>4991827
>Ottoman
I'd have thought the Arab would would've been more represented by the Shunni. >>4991857 has the right of things, I think. The real-world Basque have a pre-Christian mother goddess that their colony ship could represent.
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>>4992192
>mother goddess
Isha?
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>>4991827
>>4991857
>>4992192
They're clearly Portuguese, if they're in the asian inspired planet.
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>>4992236
She has a few names in Basque myth, all the ones I could find are Mari Urraca, Anbotoko Mari, and Murumendiko Dama. Buddhism never made it to Europe, so, if indeed the Basque are pseudo-Europeans, Malal probably won't use one of the names of the bodhisattva of compassion like he's done with Kanzeon and Avalokiteśvara, which are the Japanese and Hindu names of the same figure, respectivley.
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>>4992260
Than it's easy to deal with them, just trade some cloth for wine and they will fight the Vishnu for us.
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>>4992267
Part of the reason I asked is because Nurgle.
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>>4992354
I mean, we know they have knights. We know Malal likes the Old World. We know that the knightly faction in the Old World worshipped a goddess who was secretly part of another pointy-eared pantheon. If they don't worship the ship, maybe it is Isha.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

Kanzeon and I will just kill one of the tyrants ourselves.:16
-Nityah Sinha:1

Let us reach out to the Bask. They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts:14
-Send a group of diplomats, likely one of the friendly noble houses:1

Give me orders to approach them as a diplomat, extending the Giant's road into their lands.:1

We have proof they've sent agents to murder and harass our people.: 4

Total votes: 18

So Lieren will propose assassinating Kamal Kannon and reaching out to the Bask people to offer an alliance

Writing now

Sorry for the wait. Watched Shang chi and got a really sore neck from the theater seats, couldn't sit down to write until It stopped hurting

>>4992267
Don't forget Kuan im
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>>4993168
How was the movie? I'm hearing it was pretty generic marval so a solid 5-6/10 and that he was kinda the back seat of his own film?
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>>4993188
liked the fight choreography, the villain, and the CGI. Was pretty entertaining. Liked it more than the other MCU movies
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"I offer two suggestions to you, my merciful king and dear brother" You whisper into Jinhai's ear, shuddering as you realize you subconsciously chose to speak in the same tone you used when you lead Gao Liwei towards his deserved death and punishment by the same hands you hold, cupped, towards one of your closest confidents and treasured friends.

"Don't reflect upon those whose names and lives do not deserve to be recorded, nor otherwise remembered and preserved" Kanzeon whispers into your mind, to comfort the unease that has settled from that momentary revelation. Jinhai's ever calm eyes watch you intently, coolly awaiting your promised advise. The regal bearing and imperial serenity suits him well, like the Qilin he cares for.

"Let us reach out to the bask" You say as you kneel closer to your friend, brother and king "They are a passive people by all written records and preserved accounts"

"From my private lessons with Lord Cao, that much I am aware of" Jinhai says, waving his fan in rythm with the nodding of his head. He scratches his chin, pondering both your suggestion and the knowledge he's gleamed from the scholar's tutoring. And in this state of deep thought, you find an opportunity to further sway the "Conqueror from the skies" towards deciding to take your advise by its own merits rather than the fact it was you who gave it to him, and then condone the effort of befriending the often isolationist bask.

"The Vishnu and Shuni have doubtlessly preyed upon them as they have our predecessors" You whisper, trying to avoid showing any mannerism more befitting worms like Ling or the cancerous ministers of the Yan courts purely because you have left your days of manipulating nobles and plotting their doom behind yourself and certainly not out of a sense of pride or fear that you'd one day lower yourself to the level of such vermin.

"Certainly not" Kanzeon states sarcastically.

"If an alliance could be struck, we'd have just cause to defend them against the aggression of our shared enemies" You say, with a wide, well meaning and genial smile.

Jinhai nods and plucks at the hair on his chin, eyes wide

"It would also give cause for Sinha and Kanan to forge their own alliance to oppose us and our new allies, if they would even accept such our offer of friendship" Jinhai says, debating you much to your relief "Even if they do not, it will alert those villainous tyrants and might even incite them to preemptively invade Long-Jia to prevent such an accord from being struck. We must act prudently, lest our own preventive measures begin a war we are not, as a people, prepared to wage. Though"

Jinhai smiles, returning the warmth of your own expression

"The Journey does state one should always aid their fellow men when they are able to, I just" Jinhai says, agonizing over the decision he must now make, fanning himself to try and cool his nerves
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>>4993200

"Do not wish to act brazenly, and commit a folly. We need a distraction to keep the jackals from realizing their fate"

"Oh, is that bloodlust my sensors are tracking?" Kanzeon observes as a predatory, panther like grin graces your lips, your eyes narrowing as you ready yourself to give Jinhai just the distraction he requires to ease his conscience and rid his heart of the woes and worries of knowing his actions could bring calamity with even the most petty of mistakes. "You want to return the favor of that son of a bitch who stopped your heart. To terminate his existence, and halt his caustic influence upon his society."

You sound as ready to kill the villain yourself Kanzeon, you ponder as your grin continues to grow and twist, revealing your teeth and baring them to Jinhai, who is unshaken by the unsettling mask you've put on.

"The bastard might be ruling over the area my sister, Al-Uzza, crashed into judging from the name and culture of these "Shuni" as corrupted as it has become in the centuries since" Kanzeon admits, her words cutting and venomous. You nod, and speak your advise to Jinhai, presenting him with an offer of your more destructive talents.

"Allow me and my Kanzeon to provide such a distraction. She and I will simply kill one of the tyrants ourselves while you seek an alliance with the bask people" You suggest, placing a hand between your twin hearts

"I would not lose my friend and great builder to such a brazen attack" Jinhai says, pursing his lips as he straightens his back and press his chest forward, a commanding stance he learned from the black general himself.

"I have grown stronger than you or they can imagine" You say brazenly, exuding confidence as Jinhai narrows his eyes, knowing that is not the only reason you advise him to use you as his personal assassin "and I'd be lying if I did not wish to personally repay Kamal Kanan for his abhorrent ways and the insults of his recent actions"

"Why not the King of Kings? The exile king, Madhur Roy, seeks my audience daily to warn me of the threat he poses" Jinhai replies almost casually, tapping two fingers on his chin

"Nitya Sinha is still cementing his control of his lands, and will not attack until he is the one king of the Vishnu" You explain, speaking to Jinhai as you did after you executed Cui Fu, honestly sharing your thoughts with the man who has been by your side for most of your life "The Dark lord of the Shuni has no opposition, or opponent within reach to prevent him from striking us"

"He's eating souls, defiling women, and perhaps livestock as well" Kanzeon interjects as Jinhai considers your words, the only response he gives to Kanzeon's joke subdued smile.

"He must die" You gravely state, narrowing your eyes with the seriousness only a man who has hung countless criminals could muster.
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>>4993202

"I agree" Jinhai whispers bowing his head "Officially, you'll continue your duties to the realm. But I shall officially lend you any resources you deem necessary to hang the night devil, the lord of shadows, dawn's lament, the sorcerer overlord Kamal Kanan and end his wicked reign.

"The Dark lord of desert's night shall hang, as is your command" You chuckle, bowing and prostrating yourself before King Long-jia, Jinhai nods solemnly

"You have my complete backing and full trust, brother. Free the Shuni, and kill the whoreson" He bluntly commands, before clearing his throat and raising his fan into the air, speaking loud enough for all the court to hear "You may rise, Lieren of nothing, I have contemplated the wisdom of your advise, you may return to your labors in the realm, fulfilling your responsibilities to the people, the lands and their king"

"As you command" You answer, before Winchester begins coughing from the smoke produced by the few sticks of incense lit in the throne room "I will tend to our guest from the stars"

And save the old man from the scornful glares of the court hosting him.

How shall you prepare for your mission to take Kamal Kanan's life, Lieren?

>Just march past the Kang border into Shuni lands. Kanzeon and your abilities should be all that's required to execute the villain. He no longer has the advantage of surprise, or experience. Even if Jian Qi himself rises from hell to halt your advance, your love will overcome him and all others.

>Take the black hammer of Kamal Kanan, and an escort of Kang Chargers who Lord Kang will doubtlessly force upon you to protect their trophy, and practically invite hell's legions to try and claim your life. Also, bring a tank Shan has so generously "Offered" to you.

>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.

>Sorcery can only be matched with sorcery, or so the saying goes. However, you have found raw fury and hatred can easily match the hexes and spells of even the most potent of heretical sages. Call upon the Vishnu tribes, and lead them into battle against that which they despise.

>Write in.
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>>4993203
>Write in.
Seek council with Magnus, a way to track and trap this most illusive of prey for this will be his home ground. The dark ones marked us for death we must be cautious that he knows we are coming so we must be swift.

Once we have Mangus give us a tip we gather a very small party and depart to not draw attention
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>>4993203
Backing this but also drawing on these

>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.
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>>4993206
Support, let's talk with the guy that use Wuxing succesfully in a fight.
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>>4993203
>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.
I will support this >>4993206 as well.
On the one hand, I don't want to endanger anyone by taking them with us. Consider that Kamal's grandson nearly took out the core members of our sect alone, and I'm sure they have many more sorcerers. Anyone we take with us will be in grave danger, while we are unlikely to be threatened by anyone other than Kamal, making this a clear case for just going in via stealth, killing Kamal, then leaving before anyone is the wiser.

On the other hand... I recall our brand thinning the veil to the warp, which I imagine would make sneaking up on a shitton of sorcerers *slightly* difficult. Hell they could probably summon a daemon on the cheap because we are there, which would not be pleasant. With that in mind, bringing some of our best hunters could help, since they could silently pick off the enemy while we distract them just by existing. And with "The golden sea's aura fills a thousand vessels", they should not be in too much danger.
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>>4993203
>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.

and supporting this >>4993206
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>>4993203
>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.

The magnus option just feels like us asking the QM what the best option is in the roundabout way, atleast the suggestions are just suggestions and we're free to choose whichever path we want
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>>4993203
>>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala
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>>4993203
>>Just march past the Kang border into Shuni lands. Kanzeon and your abilities should be all that's required to execute the villain. He no longer has the advantage of surprise, or experience. Even if Jian Qi himself rises from hell to halt your advance, your love will overcome him and all others.
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>>4993203
>Summon the brothers

We can find Kamal khan ourselves.
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>>4993206
Plus gather the brothers.
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>>4993206
>Support
Along with gathering our best men and the guy who seemed to cause the sorcerer the retract with revolution and fear when the sorcerer and warrior of khorne attacked our men at the village
(Forget his name)
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>>4993206
>>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.
>>4993202
>my sister, Al-Uzza
I had a suspicion you'd go with pre-Islamic religion for the name of the Shunni ship. I saw that they worshipped a triad of goddesses and thought such a thing would be too good to pass up. Interesting that you picked the goddess of might, love, and protection instead of the goddess of time, fate, fortune, and destiny though... Wonder if she's been warped into the latter since the crash?
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>>4993203
>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.
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>>4993206
+1
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>>4993203
>>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.
We need surgical precision for this. and our boys are just the men for the job.
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>>4993634
I think our null brother's name is Dong.
>>4993638
I think it's because both of the ships so far were named after the buddhas and goddesses of compassion and love, so it's to fit the naming scheme.
Does anyone knows of a Basque, Iberian, or even Celtic goddess of love, compassion and healing
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>>4993834
Most of the Basque gods are more related to nature than anything like love or war. Even Mari, their central mother goddess, is more related to the weather than fertility, though there is some relation. Iberian paganism is ill-known, but it's clear it was influenced by other Mediterranean cultures, like the Greeks and Phoenicians/Canaanites. For example, Tanit, a Phoenician and Berber goddess, was a goddess of war and fertility and their equivalent of the Canaanite goddess Astarte (hmm, familiar...), who in turn was closely related to Ishtar, who was also the goddess of love, on top of war, sex, and justice. But they are near-eastern, not European and therefore more likely to exist in Shunni lands, if there's an analog at all. The Celtic pantheon, on the other hand, is much more well-recorded but also differs from group to group. The Celtiberians of Spain (who were at the least Celt-influenced) held different gods than the Gaulish or Brythonic Celts, who held different gods than the Picts and Gaels. The Irish had Aine and Clíodhna, the Welsh had Branwen and Creiddylad, and the Gauls had Rosmerta, Erecura, Epona, and Damona. I'm probably missing some, but those're the love/fertility goddesses I could find. The issue with these is that they don't have much knightly significance. Maybe she's named after the Lady of the Lake? That might fit.
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>>4993916
Yeah, the whole nature instead of emotions seems to be a very strong theme among the indigenous Iberian religions.
Shame they didn't have a alphabet before the romans came, or that nost of the deities are somehow mixed with the Celtic ones.
Although the Lady of the Lake could work, the Iberian loved heling waters and pools. Could even be Ataegina, a Lusitanian deity of the underworld, rebirth, moon/night and the Guadiana river.
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>>4993203
>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.

>>4993206
support
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>>4993203
>>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.
I think we should stage some kind of distraction before we try to bump off Kanan. Perhaps we have the Brothers split off and cause one of Kanan’s generals to have an unfortunate psychic accident that would act like a signal flare in the warp, masking our approach? Or perhaps we can mask our presence similarly to the Culexus?
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>>4993206
>+1
also
>Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party. Outfit them with Null Denouncement Charms, and the most advance and deadly weaponry you can procure. Your brand marks you as the quarry of all the slaves living or dead of the self named gods, let them learn to fear the men of Shangrala.
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Calling the vote now.

Seek council with Magnus:9

Gather the brothers of the panthers, and turn this execution into hunting party.:14

Just march past the Kang border into Shuni lands. Kanzeon and your abilities should be all that's required to execute the villain.:1

Total votes: 17

So Lieren will Seek Magnus' Council and then lead the brothers of the panthers on a witch hunt.

Writing now

Sorry for the late update.
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>>4995581
>Witch Hunt
So Lieren learned the ways of the puritan pilgrims hanging out with the New Varro, right?
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>>4995611
Puritans a shit.
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>>4995640
Our own culture is far more puritan than new Varro ever was, they're freedom me
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Magnus had felt as though he had been wholly consumed by confusion and dread. No matter the meditation he performed, or the distractions he set his keen mind to toil away at solving, the scenes of the battle in the depths of the warp lingered and haunted him like the stench of a rotting corpse. Amon had been right, Lieren had been right. And that had changed his perception of his native, natural environment of the eddies of the great sea completely and utterly. In the weeks that had passed since he and his father saved his brother from the same predators he had cautioned him to avoid and anticipate encountering, Magnus had pondered and reflected upon what he had seen and felt. Once his mind was clear of the boundless joy and relief that his brother had indeed been saved and set on the path of recovery from the viscous assault he had witnessed with his own astral senses, The Giant of Prospero had decided to follow an adage the hunter of Shangrala had given to him. A piece of wisdom, brilliant in its simplicity.

Any beast can be hunted, so long as one knows its habits and habitats. Amon warned that researching these "Daemons" would be a risky and dangerous endeavor. And to his own surprise, Magnus listened to the man who had in his first year been something of a mentor to him. He listened to Lieren's warnings, and instead sought other avenues of learning ways to end the threat posed by the spirits who sought to claim his brother's life if they could not take force him into thralldom. A wretched fate that may have been Magnus' own if he had not seen the truth his brother had seen. The reality he had witnessed.

While he was certain he could resist their seductions, deduce and reveal their every scheme and thus preempt their vile manipulation, Magnus focused his research elsewhere. Direct observation and study risked too much. Magnus may be able to endure the forces of the warp and any entity that commands them against him, but what of his people? While he may survive capturing and dissecting one of these malevolent warp entities, its influence could corrupt or lead his fellow scholars to offer themselves to it as their serfs.

And that was something Magnus could not risk. So, instead he studied the interaction of different emotions and the mysterious "Qi" he had wielded against the seemingly literal devil that foolishly chose to threaten his brothers life. However, in this research, he noticed unsettling patterns and signs in the recorded history of Prospero. Magnus felt blind, all the evidence his brother had before lacked had been within his grasps all along.

He had secluded himself in his personal quarters, reflecting upon knowledge he never wished to possess. Unwanted knowledge, a once alien concept to him. He sought an answer within himself, whether it should be spread or locked away. One cannot defend themselves against that which they know nothing, but this knowledge can be perverted and misused.
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>>4995721

However, if it remains unknown, those who may have resisted its lure may be tempted by it and made slave to dark powers without even realizing they have collared themselves. as a scholar, a man of reason, Magnus was conflicted. For each choice was logical, but possessed its own risks. By his nature, restricting research because superstition was abhorrent. But he had not yet separated truth from superstition. Even Lieren, who had battled such forces multiple times, knew little of their ways or nature. He knew how to banish them, best them in combat, but even he was caught unaware by an unknown variable. Magnus needed to study these "Daemons", but to do so would risk his people's well being, their society, their world!

Or, it would if he did not take the proper precautions. His brother always wore talismans bearing a geometric script. A mingling of science and sorcery, exact precise angles organized in a pattern that served as a ward against the energies of the Warp and entities born from it. Lieren supposed they had been powered by one's own force of will, and Magnus had begun his own research into the matter, with the fragments of his own gestation pod. His brother saw them primarily as a means of protection, using them in a manner akin to waving a burning torch to ward away insects. A torch was still a weapon, but fire itself could be harnessed and refined.

Altering the script, and reorganizing its pattern could allow it to serve a purpose beyond a shield or spear. It could function as a means of containment, so Magnus could safely study the "predators" of the great sea and secure them where they could not threaten his fair world. Once he accomplished that feat, he could understand what was safe and what was dangerous to dabble in. Sorcery was such a close minded term, the art had many faucets and forms. To assume them all corruptive and dangerous was simply foolish.

As if on cue, the chimes he had crafted to alert him of his brother's astral presence sang its song, and Magnus threw his mind into the warp to meet Lieren, as he would not seek his council without good cause. And considering his recent brush with death, the matter must be grave indeed
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"As I predicted" Magnus said with a narrow of his eyes, his expression remain stoic as he considered your request for aid in finding a means to track and trap the malignant tumor on reality known as Kamal Kanan "it'd take more than the risk of death to quell your courage and conviction to see your world cleansed of the manipulations of the malevolent denizens of the warp"

"You agreed Kamal Kanan was a blight when we last discussed the dark lord of desert's night" You say plainly "Though I have learned much, by your guidance and my own training, since I last faced him. I do not wish to battle a man who has consumed countless souls and survived among a den of vipers for centuries unprepared"
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>>4995723

"I expected you to have devised a means of subjugating that shame upon us practitioners through the Wuxing cycles" Magnus admitted, his astral avatar producing a representation of the concepts upon its fingers

"I have, however, one can never be overly prepared" You reply, shrugging your shoulders as Magnus nods in agreement "I have developed a martial style designed to cripple the abilities of psyerkists like us, and sorcerers of the foulest kind"

"Unsettling, but not unwarranted" He answered, rising to his feet the consider the horizon as he thought "This slave king, is a collection of trapped souls. As I theorized before, the bonds between his actual essence and that which he has stolen must be weak. All it'd take is a fraying of the connection, accomplished either by the interaction of "Wuxing" as you suggested or perhaps an introduction of a foreign energy that could upset the conglomerate and cause it to implode upon itself"

"Brother! You are a genius!" You exclaim, as you realize you possess the essence of a spirit in your own soul, and have learned from Magnus' example the effectiveness of the Wuxing interactions upon the stuff of souls "I have been thinking like a lion, when I should have been thinking like a jackal! A poison, manufactured in my own being, empowered by the surrounding elements and buried into the black heart of the Kamal Kanan"

"Using your own essence as a venom?" Magnus asks, almost excited by the prospect

"A reversal of the nature of his own corruption" You answer, wringing your hands together "I've come to possess the opposite of the odorous energy coursing through his veins and being, Qi reacts spectacularly negatively when exposed and forcefully mixed with its opposition force. By moonlight or golden fire, I'll sicken the gluttonous devourer of souls and bring an end to his reign"

"By upsetting the frequency of his very being, disrupting his spiritual essence and rending his physical, by utilizing the nature of his parasitic soul against itself! It will incorporate the destructive forces embodied within you, and be consumed in turn by them!" Magnus exclaims, explaining the method of your attack beyond what even you yourself realized and understood of it "A Brilliant tactic, brother"

"Coming from a unparalleled master such as yourself, Such a compliment is most lionizing" You reply humbly, pressing a hand between your two hearts "Though the poison may only serve to weaken him"

"And the difficulty then lies in reaching his material form" Magnus adds, noticing your predatory leer "An easy task comparatively"

"Your council is as wise as ever brother" You say, preparing to take your leave of your respected kinsman before he inclines his head and asks a question of his own.

"Do you know of any material that can contain wicked spirits?" He asks, both curious and innocently.

You press your knuckles to your chin, and search your memories for an answer

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>>4995726
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"Oh I've been dying for the chance of true combat, the hunter's game" Bai proclaims, slapping the hesitant Xin on his back, as the man himself stretches his cybernetic hand. Xin had taken time to consider your call for a hunting party, still fearful from his encounter with the Aeldari raiders, but in the end, his loyalty to you won out of his own frayed nerves. Zian and Rong, stand at your back, having been given orders to accompany you from Jinhai himself.

Half Jaw Hu, and Shaved head Wei, stand at attention besides Red faced Wei and Fat Chen. Dong stood away from the others, picking his teeth with a twig, covered in a new layer of filth from whatever hovel he's taken as his own. You were all gathered, at Small Chen's home village, joined by the rest of the Brothers of the panthers, who despite having every reason to retire and live as fathers, had not forsaken their ways nor their lives as hunters and warriors

In fact, their numbers had swelled since the war began and ended. When there's no enemy to fight, Vishnu become restless, and seek a challenge. The wild life had proven a worthy enough opponent, and those hunters soon found brotherhood and comradery amongst the brothers. And, once the language barrier was crossed, A few of the young men from New Varro sought their friendship as well.

it was a ragtag party, but despite their appearance, every man in it was a master of the killing arts, a veteran of many battles, and a talented hunter. You sat beneath the memorial to Small Chen, having already paid your respects to him. Other's prayed or left offerings to his statue as you waited for the last arrival.

Jiang wore his usually elegantly long hair short, nearly shaved, while Liang had begun to grow a beard. Both looked thinner, and more haggard than the last time you had seen them, and uncharacteristically skittish. Whatever trials they had to endure, it was enough to make Jiang silent, which you once thought impossible.

It is dusk before Feng arrives, one of his eyes surrounded by a fading bruise and a new pelt upon his back. A pelt of feathers. You eyes widen as you recognize it and what it means, and the new scars upon his bared chest.

"My my" You sneer as he approaches you with the pride of a boy whose become a man "Of all men, you were the last I expected to tame Akanksha's wild heart"

Liang and Jiang realize what you have, and look at their childhood friend like he has gone insane. Rong and red face are the next to catch on, and they begin cheering as Feng holds his head high and approaches you, surrounded by an air of unshakeable confidence.

"I've been around panthers more than girls, Its only natural I'd seek a wife as wild as those beasts" He chuckles, grinning ear to ear with a smile much like your own "So, who or what are we hunting, Elder Brother? And forgive me if it is presumptious of me, but I've promised my new wife she can join us in this quest"
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>>4995727

You think to argue against this reckless decision, but realize it'd be hypocritical, since you are allowing Kanzeon to join the party as well. And if there is anyone Akanksha's age who can handle herself on this mission, it'd be her. So long as Feng had tamed her temper alongside her heart.

"You are welcome to" You answer simply, as you nod, and whistle for the outer disciples housed in Chen's village to present your Brothers with the protections they'll need on the journey.

Chests full of Jade carved null denouncement charms, and babbles of their pasts inscribed with the same were carried out and laid out before them, enough for each man to wear nine of such charms. Shan hopped from his carriage, unveiling a trove of weapons. Laz, dark light, plasma, and reinforced traditional firearms designed to fire explosive rounds sat stacked besides more primitive weapons, spears, swords and sabers made of Kanzeon's star metal and constructed to produce "Power fields". In trunks, reserve engineered Aeldari armor, personalized for each hunter sat ready to be taken and worn.

And, folded, waiting to be powered, sat the first fruits of your research into anti-gravitic generators and Aethersails. Personal vehicles, about the size of a horse, that could skip along the sky with as much ease as they did land. Enough for every brother of the panther to ride.

However, you did not have one yourself. For you already own a steed greater than anything technology could produce. Your still nameless warmonger, and Aiguo's own mount, who you have since gifted to Kanzeon. Their fowl, Kanti, has been entrusted to the loving care of Ananya, Avinash, and their guardian Luli

"Are we hunting, or marching to war?" Jiang at last jests, much to your relief.

You simply smile, and give a brief demonstration of each weapon to your gathered hunting party. Bai, who wouldn't need guidance, spots a weapon you spared from Kanzeon's belly, for his own personal use

An Aeldari Shard carbine. He's the only man you trust to hold such a cruel weapon. He had proven resistant to the seductions of wicked spirits, despite being a natural born killer. His eyes fill with a cold joy as he runs his hands over the familiar, yet alien weapon

"Is their any distinction between the two when its Lieren leading the hunt?" Red faced Wei laughs as the rest stand, arms crossed, watching your demonstration
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>>4995729

How shall you begin the hunt, Lieren?

>Act as bait, drawing out the generals near the border into the open, so the brothers of the panther can pick them off with ease

>Assault, and capture a Shuni city to act as a base of operations and a challenge to Kamal Kanan

>Strike like lightning, and ride like the Lai into the heart of the Shuni Dessert, cutting a bloody swathe through anything that gets in your way

>Attack Kamal Kanan in the warp, while the brothers of the panther assassinate his underlings closest to the border, allowing them to sneak in unnoticed, while the coven is distracted by your assault

>Write in
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>>4995730
>Act as bait, drawing out the generals near the border into the open, so the brothers of the panther can pick them off with ease
I can't come up with an action that doesn't reveal Lieren's presence or demonize us in the eyes of the Shuni populace even after Kamal Kanan is defeated.
As it stands, I think the best we can do is draw their military leaders into a kill box and proceed from there.
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>>4995730
>>Write in
Hit and fade campaign.
With our small highly mobile force, we will be able to pick our engagements with impunity. Strike, fallback, lure into ambushes and then disappear. Force the enemy disperse large amounts of men and materiale in a vain attempt to bring us to the field while we bleed them of their best men. Then when their forces are sufficiently tired, spread out and whittled down, we lighting strike the capital and its tyrant.
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>>4995749
>support
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>>4995749
This is a brotherhood of panthers after all what better then to hit hard and fade into the mists
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Ho shit Magnus definitely knows about the daemon fuckery and Big E didn't bother to tell him otherwise, heres hoping he doesn't totally fuck up catching himself some test subjects.
>>4995730
>Strike like lightning, and ride like the Lai into the heart of the Shuni Dessert, cutting a bloody swathe through anything that gets in your way
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>>4995749
Supporting this, but also
>Use the ever-present fog, natural cover, and pure hunter's guile to your advantage. Attack from multiple angles at once, before repositioning and firing again. Use your superior mobility, mounted and otherwise to rush in, strike a devastating blow, and disappear before they can process what's happening. Make them think they're fighting a force ten times the size they actually are. Make them think they're fighting every whisp of fog on Shangrala itself.
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>>4995727
>You sat beneath the memorial to Small Chen, having already paid your respects to him. Other's prayed or left offerings to his statue as you waited for the last arrival.
Small Chen, Patron saint of Hunters
>>4995730
>>4995749
supporting the write-in
Hey Malal, does the Null Denouncement Charm still work on us?
Maybe we should start to research a more powerful version of this charm. As it stands the mark on us kind of makes us a liability. We weaken the boundaries between the Material and the Empyrean.
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>>4995779
>Ho shit Magnus definitely knows about the daemon fuckery and Big E didn't bother to tell him otherwise
We gotta drop dad a line when we get a minute
>Hey honored father, remember when you told me not to tell any of my brothers the truth about daemons and Chaos and the Warp? Well, before you did, I mentioned it to Magnus, so if you could go lie to him, that'd be fantastic.
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>>4995780
>>4995749
Support, if anyone in Jia-Long questions our attack, we can say this isn't a formal declaration of war, but a personal vendetta against Kamal.
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>>4995784
their functions do, but since five chaos gods have marked you for death with an amazing bounty, and they broke through the original form of the ward to snatch the primarchs to begin with.

But yeah, Lieren can still use the charms himself, the veil is just weakened from his ass being branded by the five lords of shitfuck mountain. Which, I'm going to have fun with in the future

>>4995787
And you know, he was there when Lieren got doused in the combined fury of four of the five gods, and skinned half of Be'lakor
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>>4995800
He probably had The Talk with magnus when we were out of it didnt he.
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>>4995800
>They're thoughtforms my son, please stop trying to capture them for study. Why? Because they're in no way sentient manifestations of strong emotion, not at all. Totally thoughtforms. Hey, do you want to meet your son Ahzek?
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>>4995800
I betting Malal only supports the brand so Lieren will kill more daemons (because Lieren is still technically an ideal champion despite his rejection of Malal) and people around Lieren will hate daemons more. It's a perfect situation.
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>>4995800
Fuck me, I'm picturing some exceptional Space Marines that carve this symbol on themselves/their helmet to take heat of their troops
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>>4995826
NEW FULL BROTHERS WILL GET THE SEMI-CIRCLE ON THE HEAD

AND FOR EVERY ALIEN RACE OR FOE YOU PISS OFF, YOU, WILL GET ONE ARROW.
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>Attack Kamal Kanan in the warp, while the brothers of the panther assassinate his underlings closest to the border, allowing them to sneak in unnoticed, while the coven is distracted by your assault

This will make sure his underlings are headless when we sneak in. Best way of infiltration if the enemy leadership injured as well.
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>>4995730
>>Act as bait, drawing out the generals near the border into the open, so the brothers of the panther can pick them off with ease
I'm not sure we can really sneak in on anyone important with our mark thinning the veil to the warp, so I vote for this
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>>4995749
+1
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>>4995749
I support.

We have to dodge his attentions, but that is no insurmountable feat.
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>>4995749
Support
I like the plan
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>>4996075
Perhaps if the plan included using those null denouncement charms... But we ourselves are easily seen because of the mark on our face.
Thus we should be the distraction.
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>>4995730
>>Act as bait, drawing out the generals near the border into the open, so the brothers of the panther can pick them off with ease
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>>4996166
...you raise a very good point, anon
Changing to
>>Act as bait, drawing out the generals near the border into the open, so the brothers of the panther can pick them off with ease
We're the Monkey King, so guerilla warfare is always available. Next time.
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>>4995730
> Act as bait, drawing out the generals near the border into the open, so the brothers of the panther can pick them off with ease
> Find whatever amounts to a temple or shrine to their dark god, and burn it. Shout the tenets of the Journey as the corrupt edifice is brought low. This will incite the enemy to attack Lieren, and blind them to the panthers prowling close behind.
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>>4995749
+1
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>>4995749
Support
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>>4995730
>Act as bait, drawing out the generals near the border into the open, so the brothers of the panther can pick them off with ease

>Attack Kamal Kanan in the warp, while the brothers of the panther assassinate his underlings closest to the border, allowing them to sneak in unnoticed, while the coven is distracted by your assault
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>>4996711
>+1
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Calling the vote now

Act as bait, drawing out the generals near the border into the open, so the brothers of the panther can pick them off with ease:7

Hit and fade campaign: 9

Strike like lightning:1

Use the ever-present fog, natural cover, and pure hunter's guile to your advantage. Attack from multiple angles at once, before repositioning and firing again. : 1

Attack Kamal Kanan in the warp, while the brothers of the panther assassinate his underlings closest to the border, allowing them to sneak in unnoticed, while the coven is distracted by your assault: 3

Total votes: 19

So Lieren will employ hit and fade tactics to open up a path to the Shuni Capital Church City and Kamal Kanan.

Writing now
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It began, with a sudden crack of thunder, illuminating the stygian night. The cool winds of the deserts ignited into a multitude of colors, a borealis of the unseen and unknown. The dead struggled within their tombs, breaking their sarcophagi to spill out as plumes of ash and dust. Livestock were born wrong, blessed by a sorcerous touch. Children who entered this world upon this abhorrently blessed night were addled and mad, seeing and hearing naught by the visages of gods and their whispers. It was an exalted night, a visitation from one of the highest officials of the celestial courts. The overlords of sands and souls were exhilarated, tasting the power that had seeped from their patron's tears and spittle as he at last turned his gaze to the kingdom they had forged together, through pacts and alliances of the darkest variety.

To those witch born masters, those tyrants of heretical arts, the moon had cracked like a great cosmic egg and spilled out its yolk and the mewling fetus that fed upon it. The onyx black skies became as multicolored as the visions granted by the sacred Hashish and corpse oils. A wonderous dream scape stretched far above their towers of marble and gold and obsidian and turquoise and dyed glasses. The promised land, the celestial court of the Ever-night.

For this single night, Celebration and festival ruled the dark lands of the Shuni. Crypt cities rose with renewed levity, slaves were unshackled and allowed to feast before their bloated bodies were ground into sacramental unguents, as lower priests were bade to dress in their still bleeding bones and preach to the listless masses of the coming providence from on high. The commoners, merchants and beggars were allowed to step into the most holy of places, mingle with the sorcerous cast as brothers and equals as a joyous madness of passion and faith rewarded seeped into all hearts held within Kamal Kanan's talons. A spectral host of heralds and trumpeters appeared on the horizon, as the masses and priesthood exhausted themselves in their wild celebrations. Countless souls prostrated themselves before obsidian scaled monoliths and statues of glass and captured lightning.

But the celestial rainbow grew dim, as moonlight silver storm clouds fell upon the desert like a ravaging beast. Raw lances and bolts of warp energy, tore into the crowds begging, pleading and praying for celestial intervention. Cruelly, they're prayers were answered. Those who possessed strong faith, will or ambition endured the storm while others fled or were felled in a single stroke and degraded into the most pitiful mutations. Those who had devoured the souls of their fellow men, the lords of this blighted, concentrated land and those who had truly devoted themselves to the ever changing whims of the progenitor of the ever night, were blessed. Empowered, bolstered, refined with gifts and treasures carried by the numberless host of undying angels and immortal saints.

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>>4997200

But only Kamal Kanan was so blessed to receive and audience with the primordial progenitor himself, for he was his ageless prophet.

And the progenitor spoke unto him
The gilded child, who has scorned night and heralds a new dawn wherever he wanderers, seeks to claim your life my champion. Know him by the brand of an arrow upon his brow. The Hunter of Angels enters your fief, and know whoever devours his heart shall be remade as my child and granted eternity

Kamal Kanan classed his onyx black hands together bowed his horned brow and offered his burning crown to the only existence he considered higher and more exalted than his own. But when he raised his head, and beheld the horizon, he saw the gate to heaven was lessened to a door that hung at the edge of his rules. And beneath it, sat an arrow wrought of prismatic fire, fletched with all the gems of heaven and the earth.

Kamal Kanan rose to his feet, and breathed out, pink mist clinging to his beard as he threw his arms apart and stepped to walk among his people, to carry the decry of their father to the furtherest reaches of the realm. So all may know the coming of the giant, and know that they would be aided by a celestial host of angels and saints to take his heart and wretched soul.
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"What devilry is this!?" Zian spat as your party breeched the Shuni border, and set foot upon the bleached, darkened sands of the kingdom of perpetual twilight "The skies have been broken! The heavens bleed! The air it doesn't taste like air should!"

You wave a hand through the air and frown, sensing a pulse of energy from the brand above your third eye. The boundary between this world and the world of the spirits had thinned. And now you understood the purpose of the brand beyond mere mockery. Xin struggled to breath beneath his enclosed helmet, darting his eyes back and forth as strange mist woven shapes shot across and fell from the heavens like falling stars.

"Brother, be calm! This land is a land of pagan magicians and heretical sages! Of course they'd welcome hell into the heavens above their hearths!" Rong laughed, hiding his own panic with joviality

"Can't be worse than the hell my brother and I have endured" Liang plainly states "Keep the talismans gifted to us by Lieren close, and no curse will be able to pierce our hearts"

"Tch, at least I could find juicy rodents to eat in a cave if we were still being chased" Jiang cackled

"Hunting spirits?" Bai asked you, his voice crackling beneath the static of his armor's integrated radio

"Or devils?" Red faced Wei questioned

"Maybe its a natural storm" Shaved head wei proposed as you touched your brand, and found it to be bleeding.

"It isn't. What you're witnessing is a localized tear in reality centered upon Lieren's location. It would seem, the material universe here was already thin" Kanzeon explained to the confusion of your brothers in the hunt
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>>4997203

"And when further reduced, was made fragile enough for the energies of the Emperyan and its inhabitants to cross over into our reality completely"

"So the Shuni welcomed devils into their own home?" Feng asked curiously as his little bride ground her teeth and almost seemed rabid merely at the sight the hellish storm rolling across the desert "What fools! What utter fools!"

"The sands will drink of their foul blood" Akanksha hissed, flapping her cloak of feathers and stomping her feet

"Hoooo boy lads, seems you gonna experience a skinner storm" A man of new varro, an young rattle handler who called himself "Long-Johns" Michah howled "Wonder if these Shun eee have any Thundering birds or Shaggy Spooks!

"Haha! Never thought I'd have a chance to meet an army of cowards" One of Akanksha's guards, a man who now called Feng his brother by marriage, and named Mayur snarled as he sat upon his "Skipping cloud" as the men had named their personal vehicles

"How truly troublesome" You sighed, as the brothers of the panthers slowly regained their confidence and began to shout challenges and insults to the horizon. Only Dong didn't join them, as he merely held his macabre memento close to his chest and muttered ruefully of his luck "I harbor no doubt they will be able to divine my position with the utmost ease considering the mark I bear"

Your men fell silent, as you held your fist to your chin and then began to laugh

"Excellent! We do not even need to find bait to lure them from their dens!" You roared, pounding your now armored fists together you turned your robes into a suit of magnificent armor "Like Jackals, my brotherhood of panthers shall hunt! We possess mobility they cannot hope to match, so we can choose our fights with impunity. They may hold the favor of the hells, however"

You raise lash your arm outwards, challenging the horizon and the heavens the curtain it.

"We are the children of Shangrala's own mists and fog! Heaven and Earth will clash, and the champion of the depraved shall be slain and these lands released from their oppression" You proclaim, as a strike of lighting falls for your outstretched hand.

You catch it, and reduce it to little more than electrified air.

"Is that all you can muster?" You hiss, to the cheers of your hunting party. Thankfully, you have held to what your father had asked of you, for the Long-Jia tongue is a poetic one. You have revealed nothing, except your already stated intent.

And with that, you ride. The brothers of the panthers upon their skipping clouds, you upon the back of the stallion that belonged to a man who abhorred trickery and deciet in all its forms, and Kanzeon upon his mate. With the shriek of broken lightning, the hunting call had been sounded, and your pursuit of the vilest mankind had to offer had truly begun.
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Nash Adel, the Keeper of the Wall of Lunacy was the first to possess ambition great enough to seek to usurp Kamal Kanan and steal his prize.
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>>4997205

His fief, one of the first of the Shuni's defenses against the infidels, fell just before the Arrow of the flames of change, and so he took his acolytes and house guard to capture a giant and taste of his vitals.

Upon a blessed steed, said to once have been inhabited by the spirit of an angel, he road at the vanguard, abandoning caution and sense for the certainty that it'd be he who claimed the golden eyed giant's heart. Baleful winds showed that it was divine fate that he'd claim this chance, as heavenly bells rang. He didn't noticed the queer thrumming above his head, as he raced to the arrow in the sky. He did not hear the sharp whistling, nor perceive the strange pulsating lights that darted through the clouds.

All he saw, was the brand marking his quarry, his prize! With scepter in one hand, and tomb of spells in the other, he raced towards the giant and his whore.

And only caught a glimpse of his killer, a man dressed in steel that looked like a beetle's carapace. A bright blue light burned in his hand. And then Nash Adel perceived nothing more.

To his loyal acolytes. Nash Adel had been felled by a killing spell of great potency, melted into ash along with his treasured mount, fading without so much as a scream of terror. In fact, those nearest to him, his sons shared his horrible fate. The charge routed almost instantaneously, as beetle warriors fell upon them riding upon silver birds with feathers of light. The sorcerers were cut down first, for they foolishly led the charge.

Some found holes burned through their armor, others were reduced to a slurry of torn meat and scattered limbs, and the courageous few who raised their arms found them cut through with the shimmering blades of the inhuman riders.

When Nash Adel's peers and rivals heard his households desperate pleas for aid, they found the Wall of Lunacy split open, its blessed mortar and bricks torn and ground to dust and turned to glass. Only a single tower remained standing, to hold the hanging victims of the giant. And wherever these men chased the arrow and the giant beneath it, they found naught but death and failure.
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"Please...please! Gold! Gems! Women!" The latest imbecile to fall for your almost offensively simple trap pleads, hands pressed together as you prepare his length of robe. You tested the Night Crane Style on him, having allowed him to come closer than the others solely for that purpose. He practiced a form of witchcraft that relied on the manipulation of one's perception and mind. He almost managed to take Xin in his thrall before you locked off the meridians that allowed him to wield such power.

Then, when he resorted to Witchfire, you crippled him with a few carefully timed kicks and pinches.

Kanzeon sits beneath the leafless tree you have chosen to Hang this wretch from, watching your other victims sway in the winds like horrific wind streamers.
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>>4997208

"Slave! This one will be your slave!" He cries in broken Long-Jianese "Faithful servants! Sacrifices! Wealth! Glory"

You lock gazes with him, and reduce him to a whimpering wreak as the rope is tightened and secured.

His neck breaks with a crack, and you leave him and his fellows to the sands.

"Another tyrant looking for his grave approaches" Dong snorts, emerging from the sands as you lead meander through the sands, traveling a shapeless road through them surrounded by your hunters in the skies and beneath the sands and fog.

"I fear this one may prove more cunning than those we've previously encountered, beloved" Kanzeon hums, as Akanksha tosses stones at the hanging corpses impudently, Jiang and Rong join her in her gruesome game in short order "It is, after all tactically sound to allow your rivals to throw themselves against your enemy to weaken and exhaust them before joining the assault yourself, to gauge variables such as their number, morale and tactics"

"There's a city nearby, a proper one. More than those empty hovels of sandstone and dirt we've encountered thus far" Bai whistled as his Skipping cloud came flying from the dunes, throwing up an alabaster cloud as he brought it to a drifting halt "Xin and I managed to pick off a rider heading for it, seemed to be of the sorcererous sort, think an army is gathering their"

"See?" Kanzeon says, prodding your back with a finger "They're trying to force us to commit our meager forces to an open battle"

"Perfect" You say, as returning Kanzeon's smile "Events are transpiring precisely as I planned them to, contact the rest of our forces, alert them that the second stage of our hunt begins. Now that we've bloodied their nose, the Shuni will start expending both men and resources to try and catch us, without any intellegence regarding the size of our forces or our location besides my own, they will be wandering blind in the sands open to ambush and defeat"

"DOG FUCKERS!" Akanksha roars, having learned the curse from Liang over the course of the first days of your nation wide hunt.

"I really must scold my sister for what she taught her passengers when we find her" Kanzeon mutters, looking at the furious little mass of violent intent still throwing rocks at the dead men hanging on the tree.
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Hadi Kanan studied the map given to him by the master of the City of Midnight's Bounty, a lesser sorcerer who dabbled in body weakening spells and stealing dreams. His grandfather had commanded him to lead the effort to catch the Giant infidel, who had been so kind to deal with the would be usurpers who thought themselves mighty enough to challenge the devil in flesh. And thus left signs of his passing and that of his army of "Hell's beetles" and "Beetle men". Doubtlessly, the foreigner had developed some form of alchemy to control mutation in his subjects to force their flesh to assume a more efficient and deadly form.
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>>4997210

While allowing them to still retain enough of their intelligence to wield spells like the "Captured star", he had been warned off by survivors or the Snapping lances that could kill from a distance. He had also heard they fell from the skies, and vanished into the mists with similar ease to the swallowers of sin.

Hadi grabbed hold of servant offered to him by his host, and supped her soul. Tossing the withered husk to the ground, Hadi stood, and grabbed hold of a book gifted to him by his father. Bound in the dried hide of a general who marched beneath the banner of a golden fox, and inked in the blood of his failed uncles and their households, its pages were made from the ground skulls of Vishnu, and its pages were held by the dried entrails of plague bearers. A tome that was made to mock the false gods, and held potent secrets and invaluable mysteries

"The veil is greatly weakened by the giant's coming, with the proper sacrifices we can enact a rite to call an angel into material form and incarnate several other's into the flesh of slaves" Hadi explained "The giant may be a brutally cunning killer of men and his betters, but he cannot withstand the forces of heaven"

"praise be!" His host said, nodding along but knowing nothing. He was of to little importance to be trusted with anything more than scraps of true power and the truth that fueled it. But Hadi knew. He would be his grandfather's regent upon the mortal plane when he ascended, he'd be rewarded greatly for his loyalty!

He laughed, his four eyes opening, as his serpentine tail withered through the halls of his hosts palace.
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You could hearing crying on the wind. Tortured screams. The air grew fouler as you road, electrified with corruptive energies and sin made manifest. Your hair stood up on end.

"You can feel it to?" You ask, turning to Kanzeon, who has clasped your hand tightly and clung to your back since the two of you road nearer to the city Bai spoke of

"Of course I can, I used to travel through the Empyrean before I became land bound. And I was entombed beneath a source of such...foulness" She answers angrily "Like I warned you, Lieren, the next target is more dangerous than the rest"

"We'll have to join the battle ourselves" You say, nodding in agreement with her keen observation

"Our probability of failing when we're together is Nil" She boasts, with a beaming smile "I just hope the others will..."

"They will" You state, completely confident in the ability of your dearest companions "These men I name my brothers, could survive meeting Cui Fu on the battlefield while armed with spears and rifles. Equipped as they are now, nothing in heaven or earth is exempt from becoming their prey"

"Lieren, I wonder, are you aware of the concept of "Jinxing it"?" Kanzeon asks, pinching your ear in a scolding manner
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"I don't believe in such things, fate and destiny are nothing more than a fool's salve" You sneer in reply. Kanzeon rests her weight upon your back, as you ride out to lure this devil's slave into a trap from which their will be no escape.
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"Queer breed of men aren't they" Bai whistled as he buried a spear into the chest of writhing mass of tentacles, that spat a torrent of black smoke towards him as he flew by "Almost hard to believe they are men"

"How can you remain so serene at a time like this?!" Xin hollered as he took the skies, leaving behind a brute with a gargantuan maw where his chest should've been "We're fighting actual monsters"

"So did Feng and our merciful King, in the Bone devouring forest, remember? Lieren hunts these sort of beasts for light exercise" Bai laughed as he brought his skipping cloud from the blood soaked ground, and circled to seem like another soldier entirely from their enemies' perspective

"That is no reason to treat this like a jackal hunt" Xin spat at him, turning as a blur of colors flew past them through the roiling storm of fire that had began to rather oddly fall from the heavens "Speaking of Feng, there he goes"

"Yes, and we passed the twins not long ago, ah greetings red beard!" Bai said merrily, as he maneuvered the rifle he had taken the "Aeldari" scum they had hunted once "They're dumber than cliff jumpers! Nothing to fear from them! It's the ones waving their arms around and chanting we have to worry about"

Bai found himself falling moments later, having been grabbed by a whip of tongues stitched together. A storm of red lights fell around him, cutting through the fleshy sorcerous tool that bound him. A moment later he found himself in the arms of Lieren's gigantic bride

"Do any of you know about the concept of Jinxing?" She hissed angrily, as Bai realized she and Lieren were just...standing on the air

"Huh" he grunted, too shocked to do much else.

Lieren turned his eyes towards the walls of the city, and snarled.
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Hadi Kanan had thought he could face the Giant unafraid, as an equal. But that belief crumpled as he witnessed the golden eye giant bind the angel he summoned in ice, and his numberless legion of flying devils butcher the blessed vessel he had created from its lesser kin. Any man that dared to approach the duel upon the battlefield, were cut down or tossed threw the air by the Giant of Yan, and his opponent, the Mirror Keeper. They became as wind! their forms ever shifting and changing as Hadi Kanan struggled to maintain control of his bowels. No man, even blessed by the gods could move with such fluidity and rapidity of the giant! And he wielded powers the like of which he never had seen before, even in the hands of his all powerful grandfather! It was like watching a cat play with a viper. The few times the battle between angel and infidel slowed, all he could see was the latter brutalizing the former with either the skill of his arms or the potency of his spells!
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>>4997214

Hadi Kanan, the terror of the Kang plains, did not know if he should flee or fall to his knees in prayer. And then came the Second giant! A woman of equal size and standing to the Golden eyed brute! The sorcerous tyrant was shaken to his core, terrified. But he could still earn some glory before he fled the field and returned to the safety of civilization with priceless intelligence! Just the heart of one of the beetle men would prove a suitable offering to Kamal Kanan!

He spotted one he had heard stories of! The ones with the plumage of a phoenix, cutting its way through his confused and scattered ranks, and falling from the heavens like the inescapable arrow of the father of night himself!

He shot through the sands, his serpentine tail propelling him quickly as he bolstered his flesh with the blood and breath of angels. He rose from the sands, Angel bless Khopesh smoking as he summoned its righteous anger. And then, he saw his own body collapse, deprived of its head.

The beetle man's plumage sat on his body, as the rest of the creature flew on. And in the last moments of consciousness, the mutated overlord watched the multicolored wings rise, to reveal a young woman dressed in no clothing let alone armor, wielding two daggers she had just sawed through his neck.

His mouth moved, but he could not spoke as she turned her head towards him, and tilted it like a hawk would when catching sight of a mouse. She, who he could have devoured whole, smiled with a pridefully. She wore a mask styled to resemble a bird of prey, and she moved just like one, as she hopped to the sands. She hopped from foot to foot, unused to the heat of the sand as she approached his head, and looked into his eyes.

Desperately, Hadi Kanan reached into her mind, seeking to possess her, but only found burning hatred that chased his mind from her before it could even find footing within her

two words reverberated through his being, as the girl dressed in feather's crushed his head beneath her foot.

"Pathetic Witch"
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Akanksha's blood roiled in her veins. Her head was filled with clouds. She had killed a monstrous witch, leaping from her husband's back and took his ugly head! She wiped the gore from the sole of her foot, dancing a bouncing dance in the midst of the chaos of battle as she played the events of her victory in her head.

She kicked off her mate's back and flew through the air like a pretty bird! Fell on the wretch's chest, and cut through his neck with her favorite daggers. It was almost to easy! No wonder wizards had to be cowards! they couldn't fight off a child! Grinning, Akanksha flapped her coat, and sprinted towards the closest figure with lights coming from their fingers.

She needed a more worthy trophy to boast to Kamakshi with. The young chieftain was entirely unaware she had just slain the leader of the horde they battled, or that he was quite the prestigious opponent to fell.
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"I know what I am, spirit" You spat, as you took the devil's neck in your hands and throttled the life out of him, cracking its mirror like skin as the both of your fell to the ground "Your illusions cannot and will not fool me, tell your lord he wastes the lives of his servants pointlessly"

And with that, you crush his head beneath your hands thusly banishing him back to whatever pit of hell it had crawled out of it. It was by far the weakest spirit you have yet faced

Standing in the midst of the battlefield, you spotted Akanksha gutting one of the lesser sorcerers, her coat burning with witch's fire. But, luckily, she had listened when you told her to wear the Null Denouncement Charms, and was thus unharmed by the flames or their mutative effects

"So this is battle" Kanzeon says, watching the chaos as you do with wide curious eyes.

"Yes, and it is done" You state, sounding the call for retreat as the two remaining sorcerers flee, terrified for their lives after their fellow got butchered by a seemingly flame proof woman. The last magical beast is cut down by Liang and Jiang, and All that remains then are the Shuni thrall soldiers, who pose no threat to you, or your men. They will be lost with out a master to guide them.

What shall you do now, Lieren?
>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan

>These men summoned demons and turned their own kin into magical beasts. The city and its secrets must be burned to prevent such dreadful power from falling into the wrong hands.

>Congratulate your men, Kanzeon, and Akanksha, and give a rousing speech to improve morale before you carry out the next part of your plan, sowing further confusion among the Shuni Leadership by striking where they least expect you to.

>The true victims are the ordinary citizens of these lands. Slow your advance to free and save those you are able to from beneath the heel of sorcerous tyrants

>Write in
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>>4997220
>>These men summoned demons and turned their own kin into magical beasts. The city and its secrets must be burned to prevent such dreadful power from falling into the wrong hands.
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>>4997220
>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>These men summoned demons and turned their own kin into magical beasts. The city and its secrets must be burned to prevent such dreadful power from falling into the wrong hands.
>The true victims are the ordinary citizens of these lands. Slow your advance to free and save those you are able to from beneath the heel of sorcerous tyrants
Intelligence gathering, public relations, and the destruction of landmarks. Sounds mighty familiar.
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>>4997229
>>The true victims are the ordinary citizens of these lands. Slow your advance to free and save those you are able to from beneath the heel of sorcerous tyrants

We cannot.

We are but a band of brother numbering not more than 50. We do not have the strength or numbers required to save as many as we can and doing so will slow our advance enough that the enemy can bait and catch us. Not to mention putting spies in the freed slaves to identify us, our methods and our weaknesses.

We can only kill what we can, weaken the enemy that their hold will be tenuous. Their salvation will have to be in their own hands, lest we risk our current mission and our brothers.
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>>4997234
You make a great point honestly.
As helpful as it would be in the long term, committing our meager resources to more humanitarian efforts might just give the enemy a chance to get a beat on us.
At that point, we're fucked.
I was caught up in the state of the Shuni after this conflict has ended, so I kinda glossed over the potential downsides of that course of action.
Add a picture if you want more anons to read your post. Spoilers also help catch the eye.
>>4997229
>>4997220
Disregard my vote for
>>The true victims are the ordinary citizens[...]
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>>4997220
>>The true victims are the ordinary citizens of these lands. Slow your advance to free and save those you are able to from beneath the heel of sorcerous tyrants
>>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>>Ask Kanzeon if she has any clue as to where her sister might have come to rest
Just like old times. Gotta love toppling Chaos-governments. And in record time, though there's going to be more cleanup since we're just bumrushing their king. Their soldiers are more "blessed" than I thought they'd be though...
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>>4997236
We're definitely keeping highly detailed accounts and records of this campaign.
There's so much we're gonna learn from this, it'd be a shame to not have it on hand for future generations.
Obviously certain parts will be classified unless we want to give Big E a stroke.
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>>4997220
>Write in
Order to crush anything bearing the symbol of the Unseen Master, this devil shall not be given any prayer or sacrifice no longer in the Shuni lands. Those statues, altars, books, grimoires, scrolls and other products of the amalgamation of villainy and sorcery will be burn instead.
Perhaps now the spirit will lose some of his grip on this people.
The city it self could still be used, it is not made of materials outside of reality, and it would be a waste if they are broken to dust. Instead it can be reused for the future, for prosperity and for restore the Shuni people to true greatness. Of course if all even the buildings and ground are corrupt with the stench of evil without any salvation, then those too should be destroyed by fire.

>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>The true victims are the ordinary citizens of these lands. Slow your advance to free and save those you are able to from beneath the heel of sorcerous tyrants

Remain wary of spies, spirits or sorcerers in the ranks of this people, as they will consider kindness and benevolence an opening to use for their attacks.
This acts of ours alone will break the morale and pride of the Shuni sorcerers lords, while giving some hope to the people of this cursed land.
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I want Astartes on these skipping clouds so much. I'm pretty sure they're just Aeldari jet bikes, but it's still so cool.
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>>4997220
>> Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan.
Wring 'em for everything they've got and leave 'em hanging high and dry.

>> Congratulate your men, Kanzeon, and Akanksha, and give a rousing speech to improve morale before you carry out the next part of your plan, sowing further confusion among the Shuni Leadership by striking where they least expect you to.
Goin' back to the roots of the Brotherhood, awwww yeeee. We should make sure to take some time and check on Akanksha and the other Vishnu; don't want That Big Red Cunt growling bullshit in her ear.

>> Ask Kanzeon if she has any clue as to where her sister might have come to rest.
I don't suppose we have a means of mapping the region? I know Tzeentch fuckery tends to make things like that a bitch, but I thought Kanzeon had at least a rough idea of where her sisters are.

>>4997236
It's Tzeentch's influence making sorcery even easier for his pawns. The rank-and-file are probably being turned into Chaos Spawn because, aside from being impressively callous pricks, Kamal Kanan likely anticipates that he can simply replace his exhausted slave populace with the people of Long-Jia.

>>4997241
Oh, all of this is definitely going in the ||REDACTED||. It's just too damn dangerous for anyone who hasn't already been tested by Lieren.

The best we can hope for in terms of future intelligence is spreading knowledge of the Null Denouncement Charms and Night Crane style more broadly, so there's always a quick counter available to normal people, and maybe uncovering some ancient archeotech (if Kanzeon's sister didn't survive).
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>>4997229
Supporting, good times indeed. Making pops proud
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>>4997220
>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>Congratulate your men, Kanzeon, and Akanksha, and give a rousing speech to improve morale before you carry out the next part of your plan, sowing further confusion among the Shuni Leadership by striking where they least expect you to.
>Ask Kanzeon if she has any clue as to where her sister might have come to rest.
We don't have the time to win hearts and minds or utterly demolish citites with several dozen soldiers, Kamal Kanan will use every moment he has to prep and the Shuni got a large boost from the brand, he also has a lock of Lierens hair.
At the very least if we fuck around there will be armies of lesser daemons charging towards us and probably managing to kill quite a few Panthers even if Lieren can slowly slog through them all to reach Kamal.
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>Write in: Cast the summoned daemon into the eternal cycle, erasing its essence and making anew a benevolent spirit. From one who makes illusions and falsehoods, shall rise one whole lights the way and reveals deception!

Yep. Malal is going to love us because we're going to take the crap the enemy shits out and turn it against them.
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>>4997300
>having pet daemons

Our brother magnus has hopefully learned enough not to use warpspawn as pokemon thanks to our actions, let's not be an even bigger fool than he was
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>>4997220
>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>Congratulate your men, Kanzeon, and Akanksha, and give a rousing speech to improve morale before you carry out the next part of your plan, sowing further confusion among the Shuni Leadership by striking where they least expect you to.
I would very much like to aid the general populace, but i think the best way to actually help them is to speedrun murdering every last sorcerer. Once they are dead, we can spend some time spreading PROSPERITY.

Also here I was unsure if they would fall for the bait and being worried about them summoning daemons. At this rate this will be easy peasy.
I'm not jinxing anything fuck off
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>>4997220
>Hunt down the fleeing sorcerers
>give a morale lifting speech

No time for burnings or humanitarian efforts.
That will come when the tyrant is dead.
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>>4997220
>>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>>These men summoned demons and turned their own kin into magical beasts. The city and its secrets must be burned to prevent such dreadful power from falling into the wrong hands.
>>Congratulate your men, Kanzeon, and Akanksha, and give a rousing speech to improve morale before you carry out the next part of your plan, sowing further confusion among the Shuni Leadership by striking where they least expect you to.


Momentum is key to our success. As much as I want to we have to stop we have to keep moving and the anarchy left in our wake will only confuse more.

>Write in

Simply to tell the thralls to return home if they wish to preserve their lives and those of their kin, answer no more calls from the magi and they will live this out.
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I just hope the populace don't all have sacrifice marks that get activated during the fight to power up the bbeg.

On a less pessimistic note. Magnus is going to get along alot better with Leman and Mortarion because he's going to be less of a "MAGIC HAX RULLLZEEE".

Hopefully he detetcts Lorgar's shenanigans.
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Minor point, that we have all ignored because it wasn't relevant and is relevant now, How are we going to explain to the wild Vishnu that our cultivation isn't sorcery?

When we were just flying and beating the shit out of a demon?
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>>4997220
>>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>>These men summoned demons and turned their own kin into magical beasts. The city and its secrets must be burned to prevent such dreadful power from falling into the wrong hands.
>>Congratulate your men, Kanzeon, and Akanksha, and give a rousing speech to improve morale before you carry out the next part of your plan, sowing further confusion among the Shuni Leadership by striking where they least expect you to
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>>4997448
I believe we already have, back when we first established the Wanderers sect. Most of the population is deeply superstitious and fearful of psykers, but when viewed through the Journey and Lieren's teachings the Wanderers are simply spiritual cultivators much like the old Dai monks.

The constant tours of Long-Jia help as well; a rural farming village is going to be much less paranoid of a wise and gentle monk who chased away the fever afflicting their children than they are some distant unknowable order in a tower.
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>>4997448
We already did sometime ago, and the wanderers don t just stay at the school either.
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>>4997495
>>4997520
I forget if we did.
I'll check the old threads.
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>>4997523
I've only found Avinash figuring out that the cultivators are "Anti-sorcerers" because of the Null denouncment charms.

No other mention of it from my looking, or explaining why Bai is surprised by our psychic powers in the recent update.

I may be completely wrong, but I'm not sure I am
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>>4997220
>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>Congratulate your men, Kanzeon, and Akanksha, and give a rousing speech to improve morale before you carry out the next part of your plan, sowing further confusion among the Shuni Leadership by striking where they least expect you to.
Yeah no, I'm not going full inquisitor and killing people who did nothing other than be born under heretics. We can judge each person and destroy artifacts after Kamal is gone and the Shuni are broken.
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Really the difference between Psykerism and Sorcery is a matter of where its power is derived from. Psykerism draws power from the soul itself wheread Sorcery draws power from the entities of the Warp.
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>>4997220
>>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
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>>4997220
>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>These men summoned demons and turned their own kin into magical beasts. The city and its secrets must be burned to prevent such dreadful power from falling into the wrong hands.
>The true victims are the ordinary citizens of these lands. Slow your advance to free and save those you are able to from beneath the heel of sorcerous tyrants
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>>4997220
>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>These men summoned demons and turned their own kin into magical beasts. The city and its secrets must be burned to prevent such dreadful power from falling into the wrong hands.
>Congratulate your men, Kanzeon, and Akanksha, and give a rousing speech to improve morale before you carry out the next part of your plan, sowing further confusion among the Shuni Leadership by striking where they least expect you to.

Smartest decision
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>>4997229
+1
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>>4997741
+1
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>>4997539
Hmm, that's not a huge obstacle; we can always tell them a half-truth, that studying under Wise Guozhi and his peers has awoken his inner potential.

If they get REALLY curious, we could even teach them some of the Wanderers curriculum; they might not ever possess active psychic abilities, but a man who has been taught to look within and recognize his own flaws and overcome them, to gather all of his emotions and will and harden them into a suit of armor, is a far more effective way of dealing with sorcerous shenanigans than leaving them completely ignorant.

>>4997572
One could also argue that Psychic discipline is the harder path; drawing upon your own inner power, mastery of the self, as opposed to selling your soul to eldritch parasites in Faustian bargains.
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>>4997229
+1
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>>4997220
>>Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan
>>Congratulate your men, Kanzeon, and Akanksha, and give a rousing speech to improve morale before you carry out the next part of your plan, sowing further confusion among the Shuni Leadership by striking where they least expect you to.
>>Ask Kanzeon if she has any clue as to where her sister might have come to rest.
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Calling the vote now.

These men summoned demons and turned their own kin into magical beasts. The city and its secrets must be burned to prevent such dreadful power from falling into the wrong hands.:10

Capture and interrogate the two sorcerers, and then hang them by the city's walls as you continue your march to Kamal Kanan:18

The true victims are the ordinary citizens of these lands. Slow your advance to free and save those you are able to from beneath the heel of sorcerous tyrants:6

Ask Kanzeon if she has any clue as to where her sister might have come to rest: 4

Order to crush anything bearing the symbol of the Unseen Master, this devil shall not be given any prayer or sacrifice no longer in the Shuni lands. :1


Congratulate your men, Kanzeon, and Akanksha, and give a rousing speech to improve morale before you carry out the next part of your plan, sowing further confusion among the Shuni Leadership by striking where they least expect you to.:10

Simply to tell the thralls to return home if they wish to preserve their lives and those of their kin, answer no more calls from the magi and they will live this out.: 1

Attempt to Cast the summoned daemon into the eternal cycle: 1

total votes: 20

So Lieren will capture, interrogate and hang the last two acolytes of Hadi Kanan, Congratulate his forces, including Akanksha and Kanzeon and give a rousing speech

Before burning anything within the city that's host to the corruption of the warp (easily singled out because of his eyes) and continuing onto the next part of his plan. Sowing further confusion by striking where the Shuni tyrants will least expect it

Writing now
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However, as the field is abandoned by both your hunters and the Shuni's panicked army, you send a detachment of men, lead by Dong, to capture the two sorcerers before they are able to escape into the sands. The thrall soldiers, either scatter like their masters into the sand, or simply stand listless and confused in the bloodied field, unsure of what to do without a master bellowing orders and urging them forward. Some sit down in the carnage, starring blankly ahead while others march into formation and stand awaiting orders that will never come. A few call out to you for guidance, like men beseeching a god to show them the path they should take in their life. Some even fall to they're knees, begging to be issued commands or direction. Like lost children, the mystically colored and shackled men cry and weep into the deserts' sands, their tears mingling with the blood of their mutated compatriots and their vile masters.

The city is silent as you leave it to regroup and plan the most efficient course of action to next take. There will not be time to rest as the brand that attracts the attention of the slaves of discord and madness like the stench of dung beckons to flies and other verminous forms of life. Once your forces have been gathered and prepared, there will only be time to command them to begin the next stage of the hunt and congratulate them for their valor in battle. Indeed, despite fighting an army, your forces have suffered no casualties, and few have been injured beyond bruising. The worst wounds inflicted upon them, are of the mind. Shock, dread, confusion and disgust so potent it physically manifests as an illness and fever. To see the boogeymen their mother's warned them off to keep them near at night, has a terrible effect upon their courage and morale. Even though their armor protected them from their magics and primitive weaponry, and despite the fact they were slain with almost contemptuous ease with the far more advanced weaponry wielded by themselves, to actually see a legion of "devils" led by sorcerers upset the balance of a few men's minds.

Luckily, Kanzeon was well versed and trained with maintaining a man's mental well being. By her nature she was a caretaker, and friend of humanity. And, with her soothing words and reassurances, a mother's warmth banished away the childhood fears that had returned to plague your noble hunters. Xin, in particular, needed more care than the other's shaken by the fading visions of the battle waged. So, You and his dearest friend Bai, joined in the efforts of easing and soothing him, cleansing the fear from his heart with jovial smiles and laughter and a few draughts of Dragon's spit.

By time Dong and his party returned, with the pale faced magicians tied to the backs of their skipping clouds, the city had become alive with the worse kind of liveliness.
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>>4998186

Even those whose hearing had been dulled from the roar of explosives or searing shriek of plasma, could perceive the change in the morning air. A battle had broken out among the cities populace. Why it had, and what factions waged it, was unknown to you. But the screams carrying on the dry winds, further weakened morale among your men, and seeded anger amongst their ranks. Anger that you yourself felt.

You folded your hands together on your lap, looking past Dong and his captives towards the city, and the plumes of smoke that now rose from it.

Akanksha was telling a somewhat exaggerate account of her part of the battle to Feng, having seemingly completely forgotten her attraction to you after Feng courted her in the way Vishnu do. Kanzeon ran her hands through your hair, almost in the same motion as a kneading cat.

The sorcerers were dropped before you, as the brothers of the panthers formed up and surrounded them with their ranks. The men seemed more shocked that there were men beneath the armor they wore, than the fact they had been caught.

Like the last villain you had captured, both cowardly proclaim their intent to serve your loyally or pay you any ransom you ask of them, no matter how extravagant or costly. One even offers you his sons and daughters as thralls while crying into the dust beneath your feet. Kanzeon has to be restrained from simply crushing the blackguard's head, with an unspoken promise both will soon be executed like the rest of their ilk. Luckily, it would seem these two are not trained in the art of Wind whispering, and so do not hear your private conversation with your fellow giant and soul mate.

However, they do hear your demand for information, and all too readily betray their king, their god and whatever oaths they may have held to either by telling you everything and more. It would seem, they believe you to be a "heretical" version of Kamal Kanan. A sorcerous overlord of a most immoral character. Perhaps because the only stories they've heard of you were the propaganda spread by the last king of Yan, or they truly are unable to imagine a ruler who does not treat his subjects as an expendable resource, like fodder or rice.

And what valuable secrets they share. How the lord of desert's night is gathering elite armies beneath his most trusted generals and sons, how he intents to butcher a great number of his serfs and slaves to fuel his own power and that of his armies. How already stronger "Angels" than the one you faced are being summoned and negotiated with to aid the armies of the "righteous", which reveals that the thinning of the boundary between the two worlds has proven quite the boon for your enemies and the vile powers they wield. Oh how the two men sing, they even tell you the area of expertise and rumored capabilities of most of the generals without further coercion.
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>>4998188

Indeed, the two are more confused than terrified as they are lead, with noose along their neck, back towards the city that has now began to burn.

Turning to your forces, you address them proudly.

"All of you, brothers born from different mothers, people and even worlds deserve my congratulations, and recognition for the battle we won this day, for their valor and bravery while faced with abominations and monstrosities no living eyes should ever bear witness to!" You shout, spreading your arms apart and lifting them skyward "From those who were I trained in Nothing, to the Vishnu who were accepted with open arms, to the men of New Varro who overcame their torture and imprisonment, I honor you once again as my brothers of the hunt and war. Akanksha, who has become my sister by marriage, and who claimed the life of the enemy general, I would offer membership to this most esteemed brotherhood as its first female member! To Kanzeon, well there's no need for grandiose statements and proclamations between two souls bond so tightly by the strings of love and fate, is there?"

Turning from them, you cross your arms and face the city, consumed by infighting and chaos

"Know that every man here, would face death itself for your benefit. Know that we are a family. And know that our cause in these strange lands is moral and virtuous" You continue on, raising your voice until it is louder and more terrible than thunder or the roar of artillery shells "No matter the monsters we meet, or the villains we encounter, we will not halt our march towards the captial and the tyrant of the night himself, Kamal Kanan! I trust you, my brothers, to remain strong in your conviction and keep the flames of bravery burning in the hearth's of your heart. For we are marching into a hell unlike any you can imagine. Though death may await us upon the horizon, we will not halt or slow our march. The Tyrant must die, his vile ilk must hang, and we are the only hunters capable of a feat so bold and ambitious"

Laughing, you lash an arm outwards towards the city

"They will be unable to anticipate from where we will next strike from, and as the army we overcame today was scattered by the power of fear and confusion, so too will the sorcerers be lost in their pursuit of us" You state, clenching your hand into a fist as you narrow your eyes hatefully "But first, we must bring out hunt to the villains who hid behind their walls as their fellows died outside of them, cast down their idols, burn their gospels and eradicate the taint they have so willingly spread"

You turn to your captives and sneer as they realize exactly what you plan to do to them

"And them men who betrayed their kin to live a few minutes more, though it is a kingdom of tyrants and villains, will hang with the rest" You state, knowing they will not struggle or break free to while so tightly bound in Null Denouncement Charms.
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>>4998192

Though as a precaution, you'll have Dong watch them as you burn the devils' foothold in the city, be it in the form of trinkets, grimoires, idols, shrines or men.
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<Recorded passage, from a preserved copy of the written work "Serene Visions of a Golden Sea and Silver Moon, Heralding the Night's end" penned by noted Shuni scholar and rumored mystic, Tahir Azzi, known more commonly by his adopted Long-Jia name, Luo Zedong, after his adoption into the noble family following his healing of their heir. Also known as the "turn coat" and "Star that guides towards dawn". Few of his recorded works survived past the <Data restricted>, though a select few have been approved to be disseminated to the populace following minor narrative adjustments and corrections performed by <Data redacted>. The Artifact is an unbound book written upon reed paper with an ink composed primarily of organic materials and pigment derived from fauna local to Shangrala, and is currently in the possession of <Data lost> of the <Data restricted>

And who else was there, who is still living, to have witnessed the arrival of the Avatar of the Golden sea and his bride to the accursed city of sacrifices and mad tyrants? Who else remembers the splendor of the brotherhood of the panthers, riding upon silver clouds, framed by the rising dawn, cutting through the mists like arrows fired by righteous hands!? I had been called traitor, and consigned to a dreadful fate and short life, for realizing the error of my ways first. For seeing the failings of my master when he was compared to brilliant star son's moral character and benevolent nature. I had witnessed their battle in the heavens, amongst the stars, and recorded them as scars upon my chest. and for this "heresy" I was betrayed and stripped of my titles, wealth, expansive libraries and lands.

When my mock trial was over, I was marched to the city of Midnight's bounty to await my death or more terribly, the consumption of my very soul. However, my faith in the progenitor of prosperity and kindness, saved me from such an ignoble faith, for the day I would have been led to the altar and offered to the false gods, he and his heavenly riders appeared upon the horizon! And the false prophet's dogs were butchered, for their god had only gifted them lies and deceit. Not one man who remained loyal to the false imam Hadi Kanan or the command of his grandfather, the inhuman Caliph Kamal Kanan, survived the hunter's coming. All were struck down were they stood by pillars of gilded fire, or drowned in rivers of frozen moonlight! Oh how the people sang his praises, and wept for their prior foolishness! But a man cannot be saved if he does not struggle, and shall not be granted salvation if he does not commit himself to dirty his hands in the righteous slaughter of tyrants!

So it was, that I led my fellow prisoners against the cowards who escaped the giant's wrath and for my faith, was aided by him personally!
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>>4998194

Who still lives who was there, when the pagan idols were turned to glass and shattered? Who else remembers when the libraries of heretical texts were thrown to the flames? Who remains, who can state they helped pull the ropes that hung the degraded priests from their manors, while the people cheered and swore themselves to their savior
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The people of the city, be they slaves or free men, did not resist when you purged the city of its corruption. They had been looting and murdering when you arrived. The men of the local nobility had already been torn limb from limb by the terrified masses, who continued to lash out at anyone they did not recognize in a fit of blind, animal panic. The magician priests, were cast from their towers as they scrambled to flee their shrines and houses of worship. Capering packs of mindless spirits defiled and brutalized the rampaging mobs, as the mobs themselves did in turn.

But, when you breeched the gates, all scattered and hid like scared children, except the spirits and those who had been cursed to become magical beasts. As you began you work, purifying the city, a man with a scarred chest followed after you, with a gang of slaves following behind him, watching your work in awe while all others fled or hid away.

From first glance, you were aware he had once been corrupted, but had burned the taint away with faith alone. And bore scars where he had cut, and burned away mutation and other signs of his prior allegiance. He preached to his flock, which grew as the terrified populace listened to his gospel and found it more pleasing than the truth. That they were betrayed by their gods, rather than the fact their masters had never been concerned with their lives or suffering.

"Praise be! The gods have fallen!" the scarred preacher proclaimed as a volley of plasma bolts rendered an idol to little more than slag and molten glass, the text on his chest illuminated by the rubble's glow as you directed your men to destroy what must be destroyed and removed from Shangrala lest it continue to spread its infection of the soul. This city was filled with such affronts to humanity and nature, vessels of evil and a shrines to the vile.

By time the city was cleansed of such influences and purified of their lingering taint, morning had become day, and the chaos had subsided. Luckily, you had translated the Journey into Shuni script, and could entrust the preacher to uphold order as his heart was free of sin and darkness. Unlike so many of his country men.

The nightmarish sights of Shuni decadence, had strengthened your men's conviction and fervor, and had washed away their trepidation. Now, their resolve to see these tyrants hunted down and slain, was stronger than even Vishnu steel.

With the city cleaned of corruption, you road onwards with Kanzeon, to begin the next stage of your plan. Sowing discord and confusion amidst the Shuni leadership.
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>>4998196

How do you accomplish this, Lieren?

>Send Feng and a strike force of brothers to assassinate one of Kamal Kanan's favored sons, knowing his current location weakens his breed of sorcery, while having Liang and Jiang initiate a pincer attack on a ritual site attended by another general.

>Send your hunters ahead, and lead the Shuni army and ambitious sorcerous away by riding in the opposite direction. Lead them on a chase until they over extend their forces and find themselves exposed to the brothers of the panthers

>Utilize Yin Qi, and craft your own illusion out of the dark and night. The Shuni culture encourages ambition and infighting, despite being united beneath Kamal Kanan's heel. and thus are particularly vulnerable to manipulation and deceit.

>Simply skip past the defenses they've put in place by flying over them, completely side stepping the "War front" as they imagine it

>Write in
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>>4998198
>>Send Feng and a strike force of brothers to assassinate one of Kamal Kanan's favored sons, knowing his current location weakens his breed of sorcery, while having Liang and Jiang initiate a pincer attack on a ritual site attended by another general.
>>Utilize Yin Qi, and craft your own illusion out of the dark and night. The Shuni culture encourages ambition and infighting, despite being united beneath Kamal Kanan's heel. and thus are particularly vulnerable to manipulation and deceit.

These two together will yield a good harvest of heads. Any mistrust and doubts about the infighting will disappear when a son dies, believing it to be a local plot.
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>>4998202
>+1
I'm assuming the illusion will be remote controlled? Just layering it on top of Lieren will risk the plan failing if a strong sorcerer or warp daemon looks at him because of the brand but if its remote I can see the brand being sidestepped for at least a time.
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>>4998196
>From first glance, you were aware he had once been corrupted, but had burned the taint away with faith alone. And bore scars where he had cut, and burned away mutation and other signs of his prior allegiance. He preached to his flock, which grew as the terrified populace listened to his gospel and found it more pleasing than the truth.
>you had translated the Journey into Shuni script, and could entrust the preacher to uphold order as his heart was free of sin and darkness.
Fascinating and wonderful. Once he was damned, now he was saved. I'll assume there is obviously more than one city in this nation. I'm tempted to offer up food and medicine, but I presume the freed slaves will have enough during their looting, and won't have to worry much about the demons after we've just cleansed the city.
Do we know the healing biomancy yet?

>>4998202
+1
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>>4998198
>>Send Feng and a strike force of brothers to assassinate one of Kamal Kanan's favored sons, knowing his current location weakens his breed of sorcery, while having Liang and Jiang initiate a pincer attack on a ritual site attended by another general.
>Utilize Yin Qi, and craft your own illusion out of the dark and night. The Shuni culture encourages ambition and infighting, despite being united beneath Kamal Kanan's heel. and thus are particularly vulnerable to manipulation and deceit.
Once we've dethroned Kanan, I want to make sure we're only burning the texts and trinkets that are inherently corruptive for mortals. Doubtless there are artifacts, like our daos and six-fanged spear, that are only being used by evil men instead of being evil themselves. And I'm sure they have studies on psyker techniques that we can refine and introduce to the Wanderers.
Also, Malal, did you see the Grand Cathay reveal?
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>>4998202
I will support.
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>>4998196
>Send Feng and a strike force of brothers to assassinate one of Kamal Kanan's favored sons, knowing his current location weakens his breed of sorcery, while having Liang and Jiang initiate a pincer attack on a ritual site attended by another general.
>Utilize Yin Qi, and craft your own illusion out of the dark and night. The Shuni culture encourages ambition and infighting, despite being united beneath Kamal Kanan's heel. and thus are particularly vulnerable to manipulation and deceit

Seems the Shuni live mostly in desert like regions. Though they are north, so this ones are cold deserts and of course since this is Shangrila there are probably several mountains around their home too. It s likely there are bound to be some sort oasis around the region, perhaps even underground biomes if the deserts are too harsh to life. But that is unlikely with the presence of villages and cities. With such an abundance of terrain that can t be used for the creation of food, the use of water stones for create green regions and the introduction of a green mining industry could develop and create prosperity. There is also the north sister-ship of Kazeon, but that can be located by using the old data of their colonies route on the planet and by attempting to find a signal (plus finding if local legends have any information)


>>4998240
When we are done hunting we can move in some forces from Long Jia, and begin to heal and aid the Shuni people. We will use the Kang and North Yin capitals as the centers of the aiding operations due to their proximity to the Shuni state.
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>>4998318
I doubt the Kang will like aiding their ancestoral foes overmuch.
Probably gonna be some serious resistance to the idea, nothing impossible to overcome but there.
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>>4998318
>>4998325
If the Kang's prove resistant, we can always fly resources over their borders and use one of the freed cities as the center for our humanitarian efforts. After this war the Shuni people should give us access to a high number of psykers we could properly train and utilize to protect our world from the demons.
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>>4998325
It depends, but i have an idea. First we can request an army of the Long Jia a large group of Kang soldiers, preferably chargers for move around faster. And assign them to finish off the remnants of the Shuni military, that are likely to still be alive even after Kamal death.
By doing this we give the Kang the possibility to defeat one more time in their history their ancient foes in battle, as well completely annihilate any remaining sorcerers and their forces.
By doing this, we give the Kang the possibility to move on, also while they will move in the countryside of the Shuni for take out the remnants they will see what Kamal did to his own people and they should take some pity after seeing so much suffering.
To add to this, we can give the Kang back any artifacts they stole in the past from them, as well give them a good amount of the wealth and herds the sorcerer lords have (as payment for all the damages they have suffered in the past. We can balance it for avoid the Shuni people die of starvation or have no wealth of course).
For top it all, we can make them assist to the destruction of Kamal Kanan body after the tyrant is death, and more importantly if we are sure it s not a risk even as a corpse.


>>4998338

If the Kang resist, we will just go by the North Yin borders and use their capital as the center of operations, but honestly i doubt it they would do it.
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>>4998458
Offering the Kang the right to slay and purge sorcerers sounds like a fantastic idea, though I'd be more comfortable with a few of the brotherhood being with them to help the zealous fuckers differentiate between who's a citizen and who is a Shuni Heretic.

But the honour of crushing their ancestoral enemies should satisfy them, even if we took the head of Kamal Kanan.
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>>4998505
Having some brothers should be easy, but beside there would be even an army from the kingdom so the Kang wouldn't do anything terrible.
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>>4998198
>Utilize Yin Qi, and craft your own illusion out of the dark and night. The Shuni culture encourages ambition and infighting, despite being united beneath Kamal Kanan's heel. and thus are particularly vulnerable to manipulation and deceit.
>Send Feng and a strike force of brothers to assassinate one of Kamal Kanan's favored sons, knowing his current location weakens his breed of sorcery, while having Liang and Jiang initiate a pincer attack on a ritual site attended by another general.

Can we disguise or plant psyker memes that Feng's group were sent by rivals seeking to exploit Kanan's distraction?
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>>4998338
>After this war the Shuni people should give us access to a high number of psykers we could properly train and utilize to protect our world from the demons.
I'm also interested to see if there's any philosophy that we can salvage and apply to the Journey, after we refine it a bit, of course. Familiar concepts will go a long way to help it spead and be accepted, which in turn will make an alliance with Long-Jia all the smoother.
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>>4998458
Seems very wise. Make the Kang feel included and avoid them adding to their grudges against our gentle giant, by winning another war exclusively by "dishonourable" means on top of denying them a chance to best their sworn foe, Wich they might see as a slight or just as being looked down upon. Hopefully seeing the shuni heartland in all it's glory would inspire pity in them and make them see the necessity of our more underhanded tactics.
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>>4998565
Nah. You could show them Khorne himself and I doubt they would break their honour code.
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>>4998198
>Send Feng and a strike force of brothers to assassinate one of Kamal Kanan's favored sons, knowing his current location weakens his breed of sorcery, while having Liang and Jiang initiate a pincer attack on a ritual site attended by another general.
>Utilize Yin Qi, and craft your own illusion out of the dark and night. The Shuni culture encourages ambition and infighting, despite being united beneath Kamal Kanan's heel. and thus are particularly vulnerable to manipulation and deceit.
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>>4998198
>Send your hunters ahead, and lead the Shuni army and ambitious sorcerous away by riding in the opposite direction. Lead them on a chase until they over extend their forces and find themselves exposed to the brothers of the panthers
>Utilize Yin Qi, and craft your own illusion out of the dark and night. The Shuni culture encourages ambition and infighting, despite being united beneath Kamal Kanan's heel. and thus are particularly vulnerable to manipulation and deceit.
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>>4998594
I didn't mean they would adopt our tactics but they might make less of a stink about them. Also isn't Khorne also a god of honourable combat as well as slaughter, so i guess you are right showing them Khorne would probably only make them double down on Honour.
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>>4998198
>Send Feng and a strike force of brothers to assassinate one of Kamal Kanan's favored sons, knowing his current location weakens his breed of sorcery, while having Liang and Jiang initiate a pincer attack on a ritual site attended by another general.
>Utilize Yin Qi, and craft your own illusion out of the dark and night. The Shuni culture encourages ambition and infighting, despite being united beneath Kamal Kanan's heel. and thus are particularly vulnerable to manipulation and deceit.

Tell Feng and the men to exercise extreme caution of demons host's and sorcery
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>>4998325
Oh right. I forgot about those guys. We probably missed a chance to get on their good sides by forgetting to invite them to the party.

They would love being the ones to give the beatings. Still there is a chance to regain lost honor by fighting in the next war that's conveniently just around the corner.
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>>4998718
In old lore yeah, so here, maybe.

But in general 40k, Khorne is "survival of the fittest" and "The blood flows, I care not whence it flows". Everything else, his followers can decide on, but those two things he is absolute.
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>>4998202
+1
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>>4998458
I'll totally support that vote when it comes to it.
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>>4998198
> Send Feng and a strike force of brothers to assassinate one of Kamal Kanan's favored sons, knowing his current location weakens his breed of sorcery, while having Liang and Jiang initiate a pincer attack on a ritual site attended by another general.
> Utilize Yin Qi, and craft your own illusion out of the dark and night. The Shuni culture encourages ambition and infighting, despite being united beneath Kamal Kanan's heel, and thus are particularly vulnerable to manipulation and deceit.

>>4998458
>>4998505
>>4998565
I can get behind that idea; maybe a select force from the main household, armed with the latest weaponry and Null Denouncement Charms, supported by auxiliary units (like the Song, the Dai, etc.), eliminating those last stubborn holdouts of Kamal's kingdom like so many vermin. It's not as if the bastard doesn't have fourty different heirs vying for his throne even now.

Also, in all fairness, Lieren and his cohort of elites are dismantling the Shuni in what, a month? Any griping that the older generation of Kang have ought to be silenced pretty quickly when the sorcerer caliph is dead.
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>>4998565
Hopefully, well they are humans as well i recon they would have pity after seeing the people and the region.

>>4999369
A select force could do well, we can think of this even has a test for the developing new military of the kingdom.
I am not sure, but i think just a few days have pass, Lieren and his boys are steamrolling them. This is for several reasons : their force can easily rely on it self for take edible supplies and water, their tactics and warfare has become completely alien to the usual standards the Shuni state faced against their more traditional foes such has the Kang, North Yin and the occasional royal army that was send north by the Yan, the brotherhood can camp everywhere it wants, it s made up by a large number of elite veterans and professionals troops and lastly their equipment and weaponry is miles above the Shuni one. Above enough to be almost a comparison between a modern day soldier vs a neolithic tribesman (but the Shuni can attempt to equalize the field with the use of sorcery, spirits and magical beasts. Thankfully for us Lieren is able to negate the worse of that).
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>>4998198
If we ever go to New Varro, will we get access to some cool archeotech power armor and super meta-human gene therapy techniques?
>muh Frank Horrigan
>muh Mk.II Advanced Hellfire Power
>muh Mojave mailman
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>>4999505
I concur. But be prepared for lovecraftian shenanigans. FO be eldritch horror as well as pewpew lasers and big head alien(XENOS)
land.
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>>4999505
When dad shows up we can ask for him to have it as a muster world for our legion.
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>>4999505
Depends how far away it is.
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>>4999596
actually meant to reply to this post

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>>4999596
Why would proximity to Shangrala be a factor?
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>>4999604
Kazeon ship is currently getting out of the mountain while also repairing damages, and even crafting stuff for us and the kingdom. True enough, distance wouldn t be really much of a problem with that ship.
But beside that we can likely go and check out our solar system first, wonder how it is honestly.
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>>4999593
>>4999604
I don't think we'd even need to establish specific muster worlds; instead, a full half of the Legions recruit pool might come from the various demographics of Shangrala, while the other half come from the sons of IG battle groups who have fought beside the Second Sons.

That being said, it's certain that if/when we finally connect with the rest of the Imperium, New Varro will be high up on our list of places to go.
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>>4999609
>wonder how it is honestly.
Me too. I suppose it depends on proximity to Terra and when during the Golden Age it was colonized. If it was earlier, humanity was probably shooting for worlds with more than one habitable planet. More inclined to believe Shangrala was settled later though, since Kanzeon and her sisters are so advanced.
>>4999614
>while the other half come from the sons of IG battle groups who have fought beside the Second Sons
I don't think competing with the Auxilia forces for more people is a good idea. Given the high casualty rates baseline humans suffer compared to Astartes, they'll need their children to replenish more than we will. Maybe every so often we can uplift kids from the regiments, but another source would be better.
Designated muster worlds, planets we bring into compliance, both of those would be better as they wouldn't stress the recruitment pool for our human forces. And we'd get a greater diversity of experiences and skills to draw on.
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>>4999658
From what we have learn from the memory cores, Kazeon and the old colonists mural, i think we can patch up together a story.
Personally i believe it's safe to say they where one of the very last colonization missions done by an united humanity, as in on the end of the Machine war/rebellion.
But it s clear there wasn't enough time for do it properly or they suffered heavy losses during the travel for settle the colony, because just the sisters colony ships arrived here and we can see in today Shangrila that none of the colonists groups where able to recreate their previous advance human civilization. And just sending colony ships alone is quite the bad idea, even for an advance society, they would have send an escort too at least and numerous other ships with different roles for proper colonization.
And i suspect Shangrila was picked for it s distance and for probably be in an uncolonized/unknown region of the galaxy, away from the rest of mankind and the machine rebellion, thus avoiding the genocide that most human systems probably suffered.
As well for the chareteristical mist of the world, that must have some qualities too for defense perhaps. Of course though, one other reason for why I believe the colonists where in a hurry, it s because they didn't properly check the barriers between reality and the warp in the world. Because Shangrila must have been low on that even before the colonization.
Kazeon is likely to be a very new model of AI (that can be an explanation for her resistance to chaos energy and spirits in addition to her powerful soul and love/loyalty to mankind), and I doubt she is anyway similar to the standard men of iron present around the galaxy be for how she was built/ her behaviour/her knowledge/ her capabilities and so on.
Sometimes the races of the galaxy still find and activate in ancient human ruins Men of Iron (and kill on sight after suffering disturbingly high quantity and quality losses even for w40k), but their descriptions are a far cry and the complete opposite of Kazeon or her sisters.
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Are we basically the spec ops primarch?
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>>4999925
It's how Lieren has been doing things so far, even when he gathered an army to overthrow the Yan, he went alone or with the brotherhood on assassations or scouting missions ahead of the rest.
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>>4999689
I'd buy all that in a second, anon. Maybe we're in the Segmentum Obscurous or on the edge of the galactic disk? One of the only questions I have is how much time does it take for Warp energies to mutate living things? Because we know that's how most of the animals of this world became so unique and I suspect it's also behind traits like the Gao line's red hair, which only appears in China in rural ethnic groups, and rarely even then.
>>4999925
More like the Vanguard Primarch. We lead from the front and the main force follows. Come to think of it, we wage war a bit like Horus with his Speartip...
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>>4999925
>>4999955
Literally the Inquisition, but way less grimderp and much more people-friendly.

>>4999974
Ehhh, small details like hair color aren't as ridiculous as you're thinking. There's a Pacific island (name escapes me atm) where many of the natives have blonde hair even though they weren't really touched by European colonization.

Bringing up Horus, I wonder what he'll think of Lieren?
> Given how much of a spanner we've thrown into the warp gods plots, he might not even be the one they target to be their chapion.
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>>5000082
> Given how much of a spanner we've thrown into the warp gods plots, he might not even be the one they target to be their champion.
To be fair my bet is lieren scares chaos probably like nothing else since he's actively going out of his way to find ways to fuck them up over even the Big E's passiveness.
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>>5000089
He's like a fucking Yorkshire terrier/pitbull They accidentally pissed in its yard and now it wont stop trying to gnaw their legs off
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Does anyone here know of a Primarch/Fallout Crossover?
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>>5000295
there was on SV but it died after chargen
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>>5000082
>Bringing up Horus, I wonder what he'll think of Lieren?
Horus was well liked by pretty much all of his brothers, though he did not like all of them in turn. He considered Angron and Curze to be a rabid beast and a maniac, respectfully. He was close with Fulgrim, Sanguinius, Lorgar(ish) and Alpharius. There was tension between him and both Corvus and the Lion, and a sort of rivalry between him and Leman. Presumably he respected all the others, at least pre-Heresy. He might think us to be foolishly optimistic or naive at the beginning, but that might turn to jealousy once we demonstrate how easily we can achieve compliance peacefully, which was shown to be a hangup of his during the Interex incident. He'll mask that with friendship though, we'll have to look to see it.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait. Machine spirits were rebellious

Send Feng and a strike force of brothers to assassinate one of Kamal Kanan's favored sons:11

Utilize Yin Qi, and craft your own illusion out of the dark and night.:12

Send your hunters ahead, and lead the Shuni army and ambitious sorcerous away by riding in the opposite direction: 1

Alright, so assassinating one of Kamal Kanan's favoured sons and crafting an illusion out of the dark and night to cause infighting

Writing now. Sorry again for the wait. Internet kept disconnecting from every device on the network

>>4998241
No I did not
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>>5000615
>No I did not
I thought it was funny that they got matched up against Tzeentch's forces at the same time we decide to attack the Shuni. Kinda jealous of their aerial cavalry, but we've got much better weapons. And a better waifu, even if theirs is also a dragon. Here's a link if you feel like checking it out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtITQM0fgmU
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>>4999974
Both could be a possibility. Either of them are far from what we can believe where the main colonized regions of space by men in the DAOT period.
If either was true Shangrila would be in a interesting place.

It depends warp energy is fickle. But we can see that with magical beasts the process looks rapid (remember the cannibal monster, that lived around the battlefield ? We found out that just a brief time prior he was but an officer. Due to the fact of the Shangrila barriers being thin and the suffered defeat, he was heavily influenced by those energy while he remained there eating corpses and then later taking even a few alive peasants), while others such as the Yan dynasty mutation doesn't look like a malign mutation, surprisingly enough. It instead seems something that has adapted and fully become part of the bodies of the Yan dynasty. It s quite possible that we will keep seeing those traits in them and their childrens (fox eyes which seems the most prominent trait of their mutation, more developed canines in their mouth, tails, fox ears or even whiskers).
Then there is something like the Tigerman mutation, which while malign in creation it s does not make malign beings. If not influenced by corpse sorcerers or similar tyrants, tigermen live and act like other humans.
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And this would be achieved via the assassinations of one of Kamal Kanan's publicly favored sons and a trusted general. The son, though his father's true feelings towards him would be unknown to sorcerers who are now nothing more than sun baked corpses, is at the very least a potent channeler of the destructive forces of the Empyrean's winds and thus a dangerous foe to meet unready. His name is Salam Kanan, colloquially known as the Driver of hell's fury or The son of Cataclysm, and he wields a destructive power that would be magnified greatly, perhaps even over ten fold, if he were to enter your company and be exposed to the unrestrained essence of the spiritual world. His name, is also one you have heard before, spoken in hushed tones by veterans of conflict, such as Yin Lei or Lai Song. During the last invasion of the Shuni, it took the peerless tactical expertise of the Old fox, Yan Zihao, to halt his tireless advance towards the former capital city, a march that turned wholes villages into mound of cinder and ash.

That Kamal Kanan did not have him beheaded for his failure, which lead to his own forces being by The yet untested Black General, who took advantage of the Shuni's crushed morale to drive them back over the border, is a curiosity. It is a tale recorded in song and story. However, you know understand, that the Desolation of the Kang, was saved from punishment and execution by one simple attribute.

His unparalleled destructive capability. It was theorized by men, who once counted you amongst their number, he razed fields and homes with pitch, tar and oil. But, knowing what you know, and having seen what you've seen, you understand Salam Kanan is nothing more than a blunt instrument of a heretical sage. While his kin, particularly his father, utilize delicate and cunning arts, Salam summons the very fires of hell to overpower any opposition he encounters. Indeed, there's a certain part of you that is curious as to who between the Brute Son of the Shuni and the Vile Beguiler of Dynasties would have emerged victorious should they have met.

It is clear to see that Salam Kanan heavily utilizes the element of fire in his wretched art, even if he is unaware of this himself. Qi is present in all corners of the world, why would the Shuni's brand of sorcery be exempt from that truth? And that is a weakness you are all to willing to exploit.

Judging from the information you've so easily gathered, Salam is currently in a region that would weaken his specific style of sorcery. For while his power is borrowed, it is not exempt from the rules of the Wuxing. He draws upon the spiritual form of fire, in its most simplistic and in many ways corrupted interpretation. A environment similar to the Bone Devouring Forest, called a jungle, a collection of Oasis, life giving river and fertile mud, flourishing with strange and deadly forms of life.
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>>5000776

No doubt, Kamal Kanan had anticipated you to repeat your feat of taming the Bone Devouring Forest and sent his son and his army there as a safeguard against that particularly stratagem. It was sheer coincidence that said Jungle happened to be just north of your current position. Perhaps the dark lord wished to be rid of his lack wit son, or perhaps he truly did love him in a fashion and was unaware he had ordered him to march directly to his grave.

It mattered no. From what early reconnaissance had shown had proved this intel to be at least partly accurate, and thus a key pillar of the Shuni Power structure was ready to fall with the merest push. Every aspect of Salam Kanan's current location would weaken him and allow his assassination to be carried out. Earth and Water were plentiful in the environment he was stationed, However if he was knowledge of the five elements, he could utilize the over abundance of wood to strengthen his techniques and spells. But, from the description you heard of a jungle, what sets it and the similar Bone Devouring Forest apart from other Woodlands is a high level of humidity, so its possible that interaction would be utterly nullified.


Regarding The General, a man named Aladdin of House Majid, more commonly known as Aladdin of a Thousand tricks or The Dutiful Child of Heaven, was a different beast entirely. He was not a sorcerer, but rather a man of such will he resisted the transformation of becoming a Magical Beast and retained his sanity and keen intellect. A Genius, who is he had been born a few decades later than he was, could have perhaps been saved and recruited to Long-Jia. Unfortunately, he had been born just a decade after men like Yin Lei, Lai Song, or Dai Niu, and was thus raised to embody the Shuni ideals and "virtues". It spoke of his sheer cunning, brutality and tactical mastery that he had retained his position as a leader of men in a society that only uplifted those who'd defile their very souls to achieve power. Perhaps that could be attributed to his unshakeable faith in their uncaring gods, or the loyalty he held to Kamal Kanan.

It did not matter. He was another obstacle that must be felled and overcome, so as not to threaten to halt your hunt for his master. Like Salam Kanan, he was an priceless treasure of the Shuni forces, but while the Brute was prized for the raw destructive potential of his magic, Aladdin was treasured for his tactical Genius. Indeed, Aladdin Majid was in many ways a Yin Lei raised amongst the Sinful and Black hearted, for he too possess a strong sense of faith and will. And Much as you fear it will one day be for The Black General, this same faith would prove to be his downfall.

He had delayed taking command of the majority of Kanan's forces, to take pilgrimage to a ritual site and "seek the blessings of the night's progenitor for a ninth time", escorted only by his own household guard, thrall soldiers and miscellaneous levies.
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>>5000778

He was a sitting Cliffjumper, already plucked and waiting to be fried.

The two would have to be slain near simultaneously, or else the other may flee when alerted to the other's death by mystical means or fortify their positions and turn what should be their execution into the slaughter of noble and brave men.

Feng, would lead half of your paltry forces to take Salam's head while he was weakened and surrounded by the elements of earth and water.

Liang and Jiang, would be trusted to lead a pincer attack committed by the remaining half of your forces, catching Aladdin and the other attendees of the rite unprepared.

A garrison assaulted, and a shrine razed, while you remain distant from either site. That would be certain to sow no end of confusion and paranoia amidst the ranks of the Shuni army and leadership.

However it was not enough. A poison was only effective past a precise dosage and concentration. Beneath Kamal Kanan's iron rule, the rest of Shuni society is prone to infighting and encourages ambitions so long as they do not grow so high as to challenge his reign and tyranny. This, rather fittingly, renders them vulnerable to deceit and manipulation, that favored tools of their patron.

While illusions falter before your eyes, you've seen enough of them and the lies of spirits to figure out the trick of fooling a man's senses and perceptions. Kamal Kanan believes that the dark and the night are his domain, but they are the domain of Yin. And your heart now surges with that energy. It is boldly audacious to wield your prey's own power against him, and delve into the dominion of his blackhearted master, however it is also amusing to do so. And you know Jian Qi must be watching, helplessly impotent and seething as he witness your deception. An insult against his very nature. He may provide his pawns the means to see through it, however.

The Gentle moonlight of your soul, was gifted to you by a spirit that embodied forces opposed and counteractive to his own. It's a gamble you're willing to take, for the price of losing is insignificant compared to winning. Even if the dice are weighted against you, they can always be caught and slammed to the table.

Kanzeon's knowledge of the interweaving of the material and immaterial, provided in part by her "Digestion" of Aeldari technology and in part from her own nature and construction, allowed you to weave this falsehood into fabric allowing you to craft an illusion that did not require your presence. Thus, the chances of the deceit passing unrevealed were greatly heightened.

For Feng, a banner was woven, out of panther hide, threaded with night crane feathers and threads spun from Kanzeon's own metallic flesh. Into it, you poured the very essence of darkness , the breath of night itself and painted a scene with that as your pigment.
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>>5000782

The illusion mimics Guozhi's favored Psykerist Technique "The Wanderer's Veil", however instead of hiding one's presence and passing utterly, you instead replace them with another's. Like the appearance and mannerisms of another son of Kanan, stationed just outside of the jungle's reaches, who had privately written poems condemning Salam's arrogance countless times before.

For Liang and Jiang, two bangles of star metal were cast in Kanzeon's foundries, that would produce a sphere of trickery between themselves. A psionic field that would, to outsider observers, give any man within it the appearance of "Angels", spirits of darkness and night. Like those called forth by the sorcerer Dong, Zian and Rong killed. Aladdin may be cunning, but he is zealous among the Shuni. He would not think for a moment to do anything but pray and shout praises to the men who will take his life and burn his temple to the ground

Both illusions, achieved by the bending of light and shadows, and quite difficult to pierce by your own estimation and Kanzeon's own more in depth calculations. And both would be considered sorcerous tools, even to those knowledgeable of such things

However, as you were unable to accompany either forces as your presence would render any illusion pointless and thus bungle your scheme before it could reach fruition, you were left to watch your companions and friends vanish over the dunes and beneath the mists and fog.

Leaving you and Kanzeon alone, waiting for another ambitious sorcerer or devil to try and take your life and claim the providence of heaven.

That was unacceptable.

"I take it is now the allotted time for our personal objective has arrived?" Kanzeon asked, leaning against your shoulder as the two of you sat in the bleach bone white sands just beyond the City you "Captured" "Or do we still have a window of time to wile away together? Alone."

What do you say, Lieren?

>"We have time. Though I've never wasted time, time spent in your company is never poorly spent. Why not have share a cup of tea while the sun burns bright, and ignore the enemies surrounding us if at least for a moment"

>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"

>"The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness. It belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn from gazing upon its corruption. I cannot ignore its existence"

>"You are easily confused for a goddess, my beloved Kanzeon. The men in the city at our backs proved the Shuni will abandon their God if they believe they will be blessed by another. Let us partake, in the third and final illusion required to cultivate strife and confusion"

>Write in
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>>5000784
>>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"
No rest for the prosperous.
It would be highly unbecoming of us to indulge in leisure as our men are marching anyhow.
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>>5000784
>"You are easily confused for a goddess, my beloved Kanzeon. The men in the city at our backs proved the Shuni will abandon their God if they believe they will be blessed by another. Let us partake, in the third and final illusion required to cultivate strife and confusion"
https://youtu.be/Pq-6aj9sNvo
Hell yes! Time to teach the plebs that humanity is greater than these false gods!
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>>5000784
>We can talk of the future as we march

>>5000801
Eh, I don't feel that it would be best to turn Kanzeon into a god of these people.
Beneficial in the short term, very much not in the long term.
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>>5000805
Oh, right, I missed the part where it said "trade one God for another."
What if we passionately talk about the Journey and denounce the gods, while saying humanity is greater or something along those lines?
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>>5000809
Got a man doing that already.
He's the guy who's gonna get adopted into Long Jia later.

Until the tyrant is dead, there really is no reason to halt for transformative purposes.
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>>5000784
>>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"
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>>5000784
>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heartland of his kingdom"
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>>5000784
>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"
>"The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness. It belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn from gazing upon its corruption. I cannot ignore its existence"
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>>5000784
> KISS THE GIRL

>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"

>"The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness. It belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn from gazing upon its corruption. I cannot ignore its existence"
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>>5000784
>"The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness. It belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn from gazing upon its corruption. I cannot ignore its existence"
Better to finish the job on purging the chaoric things.
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>>5000784
>>"The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness. It belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn from gazing upon its corruption. I cannot ignore its existence"
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>>5000784
>>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"
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>>5000784
>>KISS THE GIRL
>>"The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness. It belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn from gazing upon its corruption. I cannot ignore its existence"
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>>5000809
The Journey isn't explicitly antitheist and we have no problem with people who don't follow it or believe in the gods, just so long as it isn't disguised Chaos worship. Dandan, for example, doesn't subscribe to our philosophy. We aren't a militant atheist like dear old dad.
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>>5000784
>"You are easily confused for a goddess, my beloved Kanzeon. The men in the city at our backs proved the Shuni will abandon their God if they believe they will be blessed by another. Let us partake, in the third and final illusion required to cultivate strife and confusion"
>Gib smooch to waifu.
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>>5000784
>>KISS THE GIRL
>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"
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>>5000784
>KISS THE GIRL
>"The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness. It belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn from gazing upon its corruption. I cannot ignore its existence"
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>>5000784
>KISS THE GIRL
>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"
Stop ignoring the waifu, dammit. Our adoptive dad needs grandkids.
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>>5001414
Reminds me of a pet theory I saw on /tg/ that one of the missing primarchs was a female who got pregnant, had kids, and was purged because a half-primarch nephilim race would've been too big a wrench in Big E's plans. Not likely, but still thought provoking. Reminded me of Bile's New Men.
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>>5000784
>>KISS THE GIRL
>>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"
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>>5000784
>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"
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>>5000784
>>"The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness. It belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn from gazing upon its corruption. I cannot ignore its existence"
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>>5000784
>>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"

>"The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness. It belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn from gazing upon its corruption. I cannot ignore its existence"
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The tower is either just ye olde dark wizard's HQ or a Silver Tower of Tzeentch. Not sure which is more likely, but the latter is a much bigger problem.
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>>5000784
>"We can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and the Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the Black General struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth" because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart land of his kingdom"

>"The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness. It belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn from gazing upon its corruption. I cannot ignore its existence"

Voting for either one of these
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>>5002465
The second one needs extrmininatus I assume?
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>>5002608
The second one is a mobile fortress/daemon engine. Not exterminatus material, but most certainly something that will require more than just 50 commandos. Granted, we might be able to banish it, but it could require some of Shan's new tanks to destroy.
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Fucking machine spirits. Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

"We can talk of the future as we march ahead....": 13

"You are easily confused for a goddess, my beloved Kanzeon...":2

""The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness...": 9

Kiss?:7

Total votes: 20

So, we can talk as we march and That tower offends me win! Writing now
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Briefly, you attention is diverted away from the blight upon the horizon, and focused wholly on your beloved. As you expected, she wears a teasing smile, observing you while resting her chin upon the back of of her hand. Of course, you know her unspoken preposition was made in jest, to illicit a reaction from you for her own amusement.

"The keenness of your perception makes the task of getting a rise out of your incredibly arduous, my dear scholar" She sighs, crossing her arms as you return her mischievous smile with an amused smirk of your own "Though, I suppose it is unbecoming of me to tease you when we're both currently in enemy territory, surrounded by threats"

"it's endearing" You answer simply, turning your eyes from Kanzeon's heavenly beauty and jade like perfection back to the blot of foulness upon the copper hued horizon "I enjoy your sense of humor, even as biting and stinging as it is"

"Yet you're more troubled than amused, judging from your heart beat" She says, placing a hand upon your chest as the two of you remain seated "I know the cause, as you do not often keep your thoughts hidden from me"

"You have every right to know my heart as well as I know yours, but yes" You say, eyes narrowed as you stare intently towards the long strip of black visible even through the fog and sand heavy winds "The tower upon the horizon, I cannot rest while it still offends me with its radiating foulness"

"Do you ever rest, Lieren? You and I are alike in many ways, tireless at our respective duties and efficient in all we do" She says, patting your chest as if it were a drum "It is one reason we've become so close, your mind works like a machine, moving from one task to the next with pause or rest. It's endearing to me"

You smile proudly, delighted by the compliment she gave to you.

"But I to can sense the energy radiating from it, it's similar to the leakage of my once broken "heart" Kanzeon mutters "But, it is constructed entirely of mundane, and natural materials. It has no reason to produce such high levels of Empyrean energy, well besides the human element"

"Indeed, it belonged to the grandson Akanksha beheaded and even from this distance I can feel my eyes burn upon its corruption" You ruefully hiss behind your teeth before leaning forward and scratching at your chin in thought.

"Then stop looking at it, you have a terrible habit of ignoring the damages caused from looking directly at things you shouldn't" Kanzeon scolds, rapping a knuckle against the side of your head in a show of her exasperation of your sometimes foolish habit of seeking to know everything that falls within your sight.

"I cannot ignore its existence" You answer simply, rising to your full height before taking the first step towards the den of forbidden and vile knowledge

"You can also not ignore a sun's existence, but would you stare up at one all day?" Kanzeon retorted as she slowly stood, brushing sand from the lower length of her dress.
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Then she whipped her hair, throwing up a cloud of alabaster, as she shook more sand from it

"How poetic" You chuckle, turning to offer her hand and support to keep from slipping as the two of you descend the sheer dune of sand "Come we can talk of the future as we march ahead. Feng and The Twins will not only sow confusion, but provide a distraction. As the black general struck Kamal Kanan before my "birth", because of his son's folly, so to shall we open a path to the heart of the kingdom"

"After demolishing the wizards tower and engaging in a bit of light book burning" Kanzeon added as she pranced down the side of the dune by your side

You nodded, as your wove your robes into a suit of armor which Kanzeon then decorated to her own whim. Today it appeared as a collection of roots and flowering vines wrought of polished steel, menacing with thorns and completed by a blank war mask
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"So its some kind of technology then? Like those jars that hold captured lightning?" Akanksha asked, running a hand across the hem of the fur banner Lieren had gifted to Feng "Mighty Lieren said it'd disguise us, seems cowardly. Why can't we just do what we have been and attack them head on? Every battle has been a slaughter, there's no need to resort to trickery and child's games"

"When facing an enemy who'll resort to dirty tricks, one must be willing to scheme themselves" Half Jaw Hu answered, reflexively brushing where his hair would be beneath his helmet as a gust of air carried a cloud of sand and dust over the hunting party

"Cowardly" Akanksha muttered, like a child would when told to do a chore they despise

"Witch do not deserve the honor of a fair fight, the honor would be wasted upon them!" Her brother, Mayur shouted to the skies "The cowards would not realize they were faced with proud warriors of the Vishnu, and a renowned slayer of men such as yourself, my chief. Let them wallow and drown in their deciet and cowardly ways"

Akanksha turned to Feng, lower jaw jutting forward as she ground her teeth together

"Its technology right? Not sorcery?" She questioned again, ignoring the advice kin and fellow. Her eyes narrowed

Feng didn't know the answer, but he had seen Lieren make a statue of light in the honor of small Chen, and from how he described the banner's capability it seemed to be similar. Used light and shadows to create an illusion, like Mist mirages or Fog ghost

"Yes, it just produce a light that makes us look different" Feng said, trying to sound intelligent and wise to his often rambunctious bride

"Technology is strange, I don't like it either" Akanksha snorted, shaking her head "At least a sorcerer will be dead by the end of the day, hopefully more will join him! This land reeks of their stench!"

"YES! Let the sands drink of their foul blood!" Mayur laughed, nodding as Akanksha wrapped her arms around Feng's back and held on tightly

"You smell better, like a man should. Of battle and death" She cooed, almost chirping like a bird
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>>5002848

"It follows you! Sweet husband, like a...uh?"

"Perfume?" Feng suggested

"The foul oil Kamakshi pours on herself?" Akanksha snarled, as the pack of skipping cloud riders continued their trek to the Jungle fortress of Salam Kanan "No! It's sweet, pleasant! Enjoyable like, grr, don't know the word for it in your tongue!"
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"How terrifying" Liang stated, admiring the altered appearance of his reflection, Jiang. His brother, having stepped between the two bangles gifted to them by their elder Brother Lieren, suddenly appeared to become a strange, detestable creature. Well more so than his usual repugnance and lecherous ways. A feathered fiend, like the Vishnu that traveled with Brother Feng and His young bride, but the feather's were no cloak but rather an actual hide. His beautiful face had become a featureless mass of grasping tentacles and razor toothed tendrils surrounding a gaping, sucking wound of a maw that was not lined with teeth but rather eyes.

"And befitting a lecher like yourself" Liang joked as Jiang uneasily pulled and grabbed at his face, to be certain the reflection he saw in the mirror offered by Red Face Wei was nothing more than an unpleasant illusion, a waking nightmare.

"I'm gonna be honest Jee ah'ng, you look about as ugly as chitterlings, even a shaggy spook would think twice before giving that mug a kiss" One of the offworlders snorted, lifting the cap he wore when he wasn't fully armored "Also do I have to wear all this kit? It chafes the jewels something fierce when sand slips through the cracks!"

"You wouldn't look any better brother, if it was you shrouded by this terrible illusion!" Jiang wailed, pressing both of his hands, which now seemingly bore suckers and crooked claws on his cheeks, much to the amusement of the other men, before he stepped from between the bangles and returned to his natural countenance.

"That's what these savages worship?" Fat Chen snorted in disgust, picking at his teeth as one of the few Vishnu who chose to accompany Liang and Jiang's party stepped between the bangles and twirled around like a maiden trying on a dress.

Liang shuddered as the broad shouldered, strong armed and hefty man became a skeletally thin abomination, wreathed in bandages, with a single staring eye upon his brow and a thousand nonsensical characters branded upon his now pale blue skin.

"Technology is truly amazing!' The man laughed in broken vishnu.

Liang tilted his head, and sighed. He doubted this was technology. Lieren had become something like a sage or folktale monk in recent years. It'd be wrong to call what he did sorcery but, well what else could he use to enchant two curled strips of metal to make men appear as monsters. But he knew it was best to keep these thoughts unspoken. Lieren was no sorcerer, even if he used spells.

"It truly is" Jiang laughed, apparently blissfully unaware of the true nature of the tools given to them by their beloved elder brother.
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Liang stuck his arm between the bangles, and saw it turn into a slick skinned appendage, like a fishes fin , but lined with razor sharp membranes. It was strange, seeing the "Change" but feeling the truth beneath the illusion. It was almost unsettling. But it was an illusion and nothing more, and when he pulled his arm back, the falsehood vanished instantly

"Strange" He muttered to himself, before retrieving his bangle, and placing it upon his wrist.

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Ashes and embers filled the air, as the black tower and all its horrors burned beneath the sun. It had been easy to demolish, once the wards that had been written upon it in the blood of thralls were burned away. The few servants that still inhabited its grounds had mutated into terrible beasts as they rallied to defend the treasures of their slain master. But, though they tried to claim what had belonged to the snaked bodied abomination, they could not wield the power he had, and were ruined by it. Perhaps the boundary between the world's weakening in your presence had been their downfall, perhaps it had been the powers they had tried to bargain with. They were not the most terrible threat that inhabited the tower's grounds. Scavenger beasts, like those you called and slew at the site of the raider camp within Heaven's Warning Writ in Thunder, had crawled from the cracks between The Material world and the Empyrean, and harassed you and Kanzeon as you climbed the tower, purging it of its befouling contents, corrupted inhabitants and ensuring its tainted legacy would be brought to an end.

They to, were slain and their bodies consigned to the same pyres that were fed the relics, artifacts, scrolls and grimoires collected within the tower. By time the tower was picked clean, and every hidden room, cubby and chamber had been breached and emptied of the filth within, the sun had began to set upon the sands. When the tower's foundation was cracked and ground to dust, and its bricks were reduced to slag and glass with super heated plasma, and then reduced to dust in the crater left by the explosives you placed around the grounds, it had become night.

And you then had to fend off a pack of inhuman assassins and gibbering beasts that split into smaller copies of themselves that spewed multicolored flames and howled with mocking laughter.

At last, when you were able to leave the tower, having thrown the new corpses into the burning pit where a tower of dark secrets and dangerous mysteries had once stood, night had been replaced with twilight

Kanzeon's puppet slept, as her voice spoke to you in the back of your mind. The two of your road through the night, towards the horizon, deeper into the Shuni lands, towards its heartland and the black city that sat in its center, towards Kamal Kanan himself

You could not stop, or rest. For every time you did, you were assailed by packs of opportunistic occultists, ambitious assassins, or spiteful spirits or maddened mutations spawned from the flesh of men
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>>5002851

What do you do, Lieren?

>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.

>Continue demolishing every "Wizard's tower" You come across as you ride

>Ride past villages and cities, and liberate them from the rule of tyrannical madmen.

>Remain in the wilds, and just charge forward, so you may grab Kamal Kanan by his throat and free his people from his influence.

>Write in
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>>5002852
>Radio for a report, use burst static rather than voice, in case he is currently waiting in ambush.

>Remain in the wilds
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>>5002852
>>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.
>>Continue demolishing every "Wizard's tower" You come across as you ride

The towers have probably more than an use than just being residences/lairs of sorcery and storage spaces for the servants of Kamal, what happens if they are all broken through...
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>>5002852
>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.
>Ride past villages and cities, and liberate them from the rule of tyrannical madmen.
I thought Lieren would speedily clean the tower like he did at the city, instead he painstakingly leveled it like I thought he would the city.
Giving Kamal time is bad so I'm just going to assume we should skip purges for now unless Lieren has a damn good reason to grind a place to dust personally.
I don't like the idea of Lieren being surrounded while gunning for Kamal and those villages and cities are probably critical sources of sacrifices, so Lieren should decapitate any leadership in those places while heading to Kamal, the people will have to fend for themselves for now.
Hopefully I'm not misjudging the time for that to take.
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>>5002852
>>Ride past villages and cities, and liberate them from the rule of tyrannical madmen.
>>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.
Finding a group of people who aren't riddled with corruption will be a good foundation on which to build a prosperous Shunni nation.
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>>5002852
>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure
>Ride past villages and cities, and liberate them from the rule of tyrannical madmen.
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>>5002852
>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.
>Continue demolishing every "Wizard's tower" You come across as you ride
I'm willing to bet the towers are arrayed in a very specific fashion when observed from above.
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>>5003067
Least they aren't blackstone pylons.
Last thing we need is Shangrala being a tomb world on top of everything else.
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>>5002852
>>Continue demolishing every "Wizard's tower" You come across as you ride
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>>5002852
>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.
>Remain in the wilds, and just charge forward, so you may grab Kamal Kanan by his throat and free his people from his influence.
I don't want to give a powerful sorceror with a locklet of our hair more time to gather atrength and do rituals.
We can cast down the petty tyrants and demolish the other corrupted after Kamal is dead. The Tzeentchian backstabbing may even make our job of purging and liberating easier once the kingpin uniting the others is gone.
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>>5002852

>Continue demolishing every "Wizard's tower" You come across as you ride
>Ride past villages and cities, and liberate them from the rule of tyrannical madmen.
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>>5002852
>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.
>Continue demolishing every "Wizard's tower" You come across as you ride
We should probably have our backup with us when facing Kamal, and the less towers are around, the better.

Also we may want to address the whole "Is Lieren using sorcery?" debacle some of our comrades are having at some point. Seems like letting it fester could prove to be a weakness in our image others could exploit. Nitya Sinha could catch wind of this for example which might be annoying. Could help him unite the Vishnu against us or something like that.
Eh, maybe I'm worried over nothing.
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>>5002852
> Continue demolishing every "Wizard's tower" you come across as you ride
> Ride past villages and cities, and liberate them from the rule of tyrannical madmen.
I think it's inevitable that Kamal Kanan will know Lieren is near; he's got 'angels' whispering in his ear, and those bastards don't have to deal with shit like time or space or physics.

I also don't think we need to worry very much about the others; Lieren's surrounded himself with very capable people. He can trust them to Get Shit Done while the Golden-Eyed Giant burns his way into the proverbial...and potentially literal heart of darkness.

>>5002897
>>5003067
I'm damn certain that paranoid types would absolutely do something like binding a Greater Daemon in an array of towers, or empower Kamal in some fashion. Like if he had set wards in place himself to prevent any of his spawn or subjects from growing too strong, and with each toppled monument to their arrogance, he's closer and closer to his full sorcerous potence.
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>>5003292
+1
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>>5002852
>>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.
>Remain in the wilds, and just charge forward, so you may grab Kamal Kanan by his throat and free his people from his influence.

>>5003073
the ultimate cuck
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>>5003455
>"Oho? The center of the [EGYPTIAN SOUNDING NAME] Dynasty is now home to one of the sons of that great golden upstart? I'm going to need a bigger display case...
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>>5002852
>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.
>Continue demolishing every "Wizard's tower" You come across as you ride
>Ride past villages and cities, and liberate them from the rule of tyrannical madmen
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>Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.
>Continue demolishing every "Wizard's tower" You come across as you ride
>Ride past villages and cities, and liberate them from the rule of tyrannical madmen
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>>5003349
>support
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Calling the vote now.

Radio Feng and the twins, and receive a report of their success or failure.:12
- Use static rather than words: 1

Remain in the wilds, and just charge forward, so you may grab Kamal Kanan by his throat and free his people from his influence.:4

Continue demolishing every "Wizard's tower" You come across as you ride: 9

Ride past villages and cities, and liberate them from the rule of tyrannical madmen.:8

total votes; 16

So lieren will ask his men for a status report, and then slow his advance to liberate the oppressed/ enslaved and destroy the corrupted sites of study/ worship Kanzeon calls wizard towers.

Writing now
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While the moon still rules the sky, you decide to take advantage of the lull in activity and violence to contact the two halves of your forces to receives a report of the success or failure of their missions. Fearing silence, but expecting a reply you activate the radio inbuilt into the transforming regalia and armor you wear to guard against both the cutting winds of the Desert plains and near grassless uplands. Feng's personal channel is the first you connect to, using thought to align your yet unspoken message to the receiver inbuilt into his own armor.

Beneath the crackle of static, you can hear the sounds of battle mixed with the song of nature. The sizzling roar of plasma igniting upon open air, the snapping crack of laser weaponry, the piercing cry as dark light is called forth to destroy and erase its target. Soon, the tell tale rhythm of explosive round volley erupts in your ear, beating and echoing into your head as a rallying cheer rises above the many sounds of a battle between technology and sorcery. Static returns, as you can hear Feng spit a line of curses as he fumble with his armor's communication's system. You are almost certain you can hear Akanksha laughing and roaring a challenge in Vishnu in the background noise, accompanied by a gurgling hiss you recognize as the sound a man makes the moment the meat of his throat has been torn from his neck.

"Lieren? Can you hear me?" Feng asks, slowly adjusting the frequency of your connected message until it is free of static "My apologizes if the channel isn't clear on your end, these Shuni Whoresons are unexpectedly valorous in their struggle to reclaim the head of their black master"

"I have no reason to ask the question I intended to ask of you now, I however shall offer my congratulations on your victory, brother!" You laugh as you can clearly hear Bai snarling and using his very much irreplaceable Aeldari shard Carbine as a bludgeon "Though we are many leagues apart, know that you have exceeded my expectations"

"The battle isn't over yet, the sorcerers may yet rally!" Feng says, in a scolding yet friendly manner, as you can hear his Skipping Cloud's anti gravity generators thrum against the uneven terrain beneath it "But you honor me with your praises none the less, the trick you've performed and the ambush we carried out were both flawless, the tyrant's son was barely able to summon forth the flames of hell before his head was divorced from his shoulders"

"Marid! You treasonous dog! How dare you betray your heaven's blessed father for another master!" A voice in Shuni Belows "May you choke upon your treachery, may your bowels boil and turn to putrid steam, may your limbs wither and as your mind is enfeebled and!"

"Courts above!" Feng yelps, as you hear the speaker of the hex die, dragged down with some manner of bladed instrument embedded in his neck

"I beseech the black rains to wash away the heathens risen from our kin!" Another voice shrieks
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>>5003995

"Is everything under control Feng? I can reroute the twins march if your men require aid" You bark as Feng snorts as the sound of torrential downpour washes past him and his transmitter, a slurry of water of some variety

"We can handle these stray dogs, brother, they're the few of the slain devil's men who have possess more loyalty than sense!" Feng replies, as you hear a rumbling boom followed by a cascade of las fire "And it may be that the twins require our assistance! I shall give a detailed account of our success when the battle is one, Brother, until then, may your life's Journey be free of peril or tragedy"

"And may yours be long and fruitful" You say, masking your worry with a jovial tone "Fight like a cornered Panther, Feng"

"Until we meet again" Feng states calmly as his cuts the connection between the two of you, a piercing static settling in your ear. It is quickly replaced with Jiang's bawdy laughter.

"Quiet down you fool!" Liang scolds, as you can hear the crackle of raging fire and the mournful howling of winds "And focus your fire upon the center of the blaze, excuse my rudeness Elder Brother, but there have been complications"

"But the general is slain! the shrine is burning!" Jiang complains

"Focus fire" Liang repeats with a snarl "Something has been...something is emerging from the center of the temple, Lieren, I am grateful you've contacted me at this moment! Your wisdom and guidance is greatly required"

"Dong is uninjured?" You ask sharply, digging your nails into your palm

"Yes, complaining about headaches and nausea, but he is otherwise well and whole of body and mind" Liang answers

"Order him to charge towards the being emerging from the fire, while the rest of your men attack it from a distance" You say simply, as you reach out into the ether to connect with Dong's unfillable "vessel". A terror inducing screech crackles through the comms, followed by a thundering volley of explosive rounds, plasma bolts, las fire, and dark light lances.

The triumphant cry of the spirit soon turns into a hissing shriek of impotent wrath, as it is brutalized both by Dong's presence and enough ordnances to level a small city.

"Congratulations brother! The temple is more on fire than before and poor Dong's back has been singed!" Jiang mockingly praises, wholly unaware and ignorant of the fact that if it was not for his brother's quick thinking and Dong's peculiar aura, an opponent they could not hope to defeat would have emerged from the ashes of the Shuni Ritual site.

Indeed, without the brief flash of your golden fire you pour into Dong's dull flame, the spirit may have been able to materialize in the living world, having endured an assault that would decimate an army.

"Thank you for your guidance, Elder brother" Liang softly replies "We've suffered a causality, one of the Vishnu Men. He boiled inside of his armor. I do not know how, but he is dead. The first loss we've suffered yet on this campaign "
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You bow your head, mourning the man with silence.

"The Vishnu have no funerary rites, allow his kin time to mourn, and retrieve his equipment" You command, solemnly "Though it is soured by the tragedy of losing a brother, I would offer you my praises for achieving victory against the general and his vanguard"

"Damn you Lieren!" Dong wails, before you can hear him grotesquely spew the contents of his stomach within his helmet "That hurt!"

"And offer Dong my sincerest apologies" You mutter, ashamed and guilt wrought, cutting of the connection hastily now that you are certain your friends are safe from whatever evil lurked within that temple.

"Hmm?" Kanzeon moans through her puppet's lips as she sits up and rests her head on your shoulder "You're changing our course. Is their an obstacle in the path we planned"

Her eyes flutter open, sand and dust clinging to her hair as she looks towards the horizon and sees exactly what has moved you to grab the reigns of your bloodthirsty steed and direct it in another direction. A city a glow with fires and candles, and another loathsome tower in the distance.

"Lieren" She says, softly, not quiet scolding you and not quiet agreeing with your choice

"I cannot stand idle by while my fellow men suffer in silence. It is my nature. I began my journey because of it, and though I know it foolish, I will not ignore the pleading of my heart even if our enemy waits beyond the next hill" You mutter, bitter conviction clinging to your tongue

"And it is in my nature to protect and nurture humanity, programmed or not, I cannot advise you to ignore the plight of the descendants of my sister's crew as I am not completely certain I would be able to do so, personally" Kanzeon sighs, rising to a more proper posture, motioning for you to allow her to slide from the saddle so she may ride her own horse as you approach the city and the tower that over looks it "Who knows, maybe we'll meet a warmer welcome this time"

"More likely we'll meet nothing more than abominations and devils in the guise of men" You spit, raising your head, knowing the brand will alert any slaves of the five lords of hell of your approach.

"Oh almost certainly, but one can hope. Maybe they'll greet us with open arms and friendly expressions, rather than curses and the vitriol only a zealot can stomach" Kanzeon cackles "Of course the probability of such an occurrence are so insignificant it is almost not worthwhile to record the exact percentage"

You turn to her, curiously pursing your lips together

"Exactly zero point zero zero zero one percentage of a chance we'll be greeted with anything besides overt hostility or panic" Kanzeon answers, with a smug air about her. She brushes her hair back with a flick of her wrist, and rides ahead

"Come on my darling scholar, lets act heroic again, as inefficient and foolish as it may be!" She calls out

"It is after all our nature!" You answer, steeling yourself for the battle almost certain to come
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>>5003999

"Affirmative" Kanzeon giggles, almost maidenly
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"Marid has betrayed us?" Kamal Kanan questioned as he turned his shimmering turquoise hued eyes to his vizier, a new servant risen from one of the families of servants he had cultivated over the long decades of his life. His onyx black skin shimmered with ritual ointments and holy unguents, oil dripping down the back of his craned neck.

Between clawed fingers, he toyed with a strand of iron hued hair, staring into the dark waters of a scrying pool, filled with the liquidized thoughts and final moments of well over a dozen failed servants. His Vizier turned his eyes towards the pool uneasily, licking his lips with a needled tipped tongue, venom dripping from its length as he considered his answer, cowardly

"That is what the survivors of the fortress of the Martyred have claimed, already your sons are drawing lines and declaring loyalties in this familial conflict" The man hissed as the overlord of the Shun threw back his horned head and sighed, smoke rising from his lips as he did so

The rat like man scurried nearer to him, and continued squeaking as he traced a hand through the oil thick waters of the scrying pool

"And the heaven's arrow was not spotted anywhere near the vicinity of the site of the betrayal"

"So you believe it as well?" Kamal Kanan question, his words cutting like a dagger across bare skin. The Vizier in all of his silks and perfume recoiled as if struck. He stammered, sputtered, trying to devise a response that would not lead to his untimely and horrific demise.

Kamal Kanan did not give him the gift of hope, and buried his fingers into his throat, slowly sipping away at his life as he connected his withered soul to his own

"Then you are a fool, as are my sons" He whispered, as if he were addressing a lover, his shadowed figured revealed by the light of his servant's pathetic attempts to shield his essence from his predations. His body, blessed by dozens of mutations, carefully sculpted by the will of the progenitor of night, surged with renewed vigor as he shuddered, scaled arms twitching where they met feathered shoulders

"But, chaff should not be expected to possess the wisdom necessary to known the designs of the heavens" Kamal Kanan reprimanded as he dragged his dying slave closer to the scrying pool, pressing his cheek into its dark waters. The man's dying body, began to mutate at an exponential rate.

"Do you believe the Star spawned Giant to be a mindless brute? He played a child's trick upon us an all of the realm falls in line as he planned, utterly deceived. Blinded by a zealous fury, they do not even notice the death of one of our greatest assets" Kamal Kanan growled as the thing that was once a man sputters a mewling cry that sounds like an inquiry to his ears "Our pillars fall, our cities burn with the fires of liberation, and you can only see a traitor in our midst?"
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"All of you were so focused were the giant was not, you never thought to question who he would send there in his stead. A clever ploy, I will admit"

Kamal Kanan released what had once been the Vizier, petting it gently as his own blessings shifted and transfigured his mortal vessel

"Deceptively simplistic, yet brutally effective at blinding the sheep. Sites of worship despoiled, brothers turned against brothers, a legion of thralls preaching his insipid teachings" Kamal Kanan hissed, shuddering in the agony of his body's transfiguration into a new, mightier form. His flesh coiled like serpents, his veins crawled like ants, his eyes blazed with purpose "He is consumed by his love for the weak and his hatred for the strong, he has slowed his advance and unwittingly played directly into the palm of my hand"

He clapped his hands together and sneered

"I am certain the men of Yan have an idiom for it, or some poetic tale cautioning of acting in such a way" He said with a rolling shrug of his now vast shoulders "At long last, the prophecy of my youth is soon to be fulfilled, as my kingdom burns and falls to the winds of change. perhaps if he is any more ponderous in his approach we too shall have a revolution risen from the fodder of the masses!"

Raven laughter filled the palace

"I have no need for kin or kith, or mortal armies. Subject the royal family and all other living men present within this city and the armies and stationed surrounding the capital and its eight sister cities and their populace to the blood of the angels, bathe the masses in the opalescent elixir, and give unto me an army of beasts and failed champions, leave only the chosen few to serve as my generals. The final battle is soon to be waged" Kamal Kanan commanded his shadow "And at last I shall take my place among the gods, let us see in this final hour if I may draw the ogre out of the man before I commence my FEAST"

The shadow slithered away, as the sorcerous king laughed and laughed to his emptied, silent court

For you have been blessed beyond all others, my noble knight
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Another city, left to the sands, abandoned by all life. The place reeks of the warp, and every building has become a life in its own right. The streets writhe beneath your feet, and the doorways sigh while the windows blink. Kanzeon, clings to your arm, shivering as you walk through the town of ghosts, that groans and cries out like a leviathan of bleeding stone and whimpering glass. A spirit watches you from a tower, and takes flight

The skies here have been replaced by the ever shifting heavens of the Emperyan. You've entered into the heartland of the Shuni Kingdom, While the brothers of the panther harry and harass the elements of the Shuni army that do not war against themselves

"He's achieved what the Yan tyrants were unable to" Kanzeon whispers, as she averts her gaze from a bloody streak in the paved street that looks unsettling close to the scratching of child sized nails
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>>5004006

"Or unwilling to do. He's depopulated these lands of his own people"

"To serve as fuel for a ritual beyond any mortal wickedness" You hiss, stooping down to examine a spear bloodied with a milky white, blue hued fluid "He must believe he has lead me into a trap, and outwitted me and now seeks to mock me with relentless attrocity"

Kanzeon opens a door with a solid kick and turns away, saddened that she did not find even the faintest hint that someone has survived the scouring of this city. There was not a trace. The seven cities before it, were wiped clean of life, surveyed by silent spirits. Eight of greatest cities of the Shuni land, the heart of the nation, were emptied and doubtlessly the ninth, its capital, would be as well.

It was maddening, infuriating. At last you have met a mortal man who disgusted you more than Gao Liwei, who enraged you beyond description. It was only Kanzeon soothing presence that kept you focused on your duty, and in control of your raging emotions.

That, and a single fact.

Kamal Kanan may have taken countless lives and made these nine cities into tombs. However, you had ensured all others would be safeguarded from whatever spell he cast to achieve this mass vanishing. For, while you did not visit every city or town of the nation, you had started something of a revolt in your passing.

And gave to its leaders the means to produce null denouncement charms in the guise of it being a mark of loyalty to the cause. And you have yet to encounter sorcery that could breech the charms protection. Or any power lesser than that wielded by the abhorrent masters of chaos that could pierce its shield.

You grieved for those who you were unable to save or free. And though it was a weak salve, you were consoled by the fact that you had prevent Kamal Kanan from extending his mass ritualistic slaughter to the rest of the kingdom. Countless lives were lost, but countless more were preserved.

It was a bitter medicine, but it kept you from being utterly consumed by your rage.

"You know, godling" A gibbering spirit in the form of a overgrown, scaled eye with two pairs of bat wings sneered "if you would accept my father's guidance and dominion over your fate, you could undo this tragedy"

You crush it between your hands, clapping them together as you march through the city, stewing in your own black rage.

"What of you! mankind will betray you! Scorn you! You will be gutted, dismembered by adherents to the gospel of the cog and circuit, you know humanity despises machines that have evolved past their station" A scorpion tailed monkey giggles, capering above Kanzeon's head

She silences its temptations with a single shot of plasma, stomping to catch up with you.

"There's life in the deserts. The genocide of these nine cities was not complete, it would seem" Kanzeon states as you continue your journey through the living, breath city.
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>>5004013

You wipe sweat that had fallen from a stone archway from your shoulder, and set down another demolition charge, to wipe this ruined place from the world.

"Or it could be a pack of mutated monstrosities" She admitted

The sole survivors of the populace of nine once flourishing cities? The last men who could be saved from Kamal Kanan's madness?

The part of you that remained as your father had intended you to be, tells you that the majority has already been saved. But the man you have chosen to become, reminds you that all life is equal and measuring men like they were grains of rice is inhuman and monstrous.

Your ever loyal steed snorted, as Kanzeon nodded in silent agreement with your decision

What do you do, Lieren?

>Find these survivors, it is not like there's anyone left for Kamal Kanan to kill when he's turned the seat of his power into the largest graveyard upon Shangrala

>Ask Kanzeon to go to the survivors and if they are indeed escapees from Kanan's vile program, they will need protection.

>If those life signs are still human, they can only be protected by slaying Kamal Kanan and ending this madness before he consigns the entire region to the darkest layer of hell. March on and tear Kamal Kanan apart.

>The Veil between life and death is weak here. Not all spirits are malevolent as you know. Seek audience with Magnus, and call forth the noble soul of Small Chen with his aid, as Guozhi called the Dai Monks.

>Write in

>>5003349
>>5003067
>>5002897
And you were correct, the towers did have a purpose while standing and also when destroyed.

Unfortunately for Kamal, Lieren has Null Denouncement Charms and the ability to see Warp Shit.
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>>5004016
>Write in
Find these survivors if there are any and then send kanzeon to lead them to safety of the rebels, then ride on to kamal kanan and slay the foul sorcerer once and for all!!!
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The book is huge because it's primarch sized

The scar is complete because only 5 arrows looks silly no matter what

Our chendao has the symbol of the house of chen to forever honor him

>>4957715 I tried to get the artist to incorporate the colors you described as best I could, this is the best I could get

Artist is danpur, here's a link
https://artistsnclients.com/slots/62684
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>>5004026
>>5004024
YOOOOO THAT'S FUCKING INCREDIBLE HOLY SHIT! There is so much that is just fucking awesome about that, I like how its a seemless blend of 40k and Chinese styles. Love literally everything about Lieren's l;ook and equipment. The background is increduble. And I especially love the rendition of the Fog Panther, Even though its just a hide you can see how dangerous of a beast it was in life. There are just so many details I adore about this commission, its beautiful.

You're a fucking legend, anon. If I saw that on a book cover, I'd buy ten copies. It's just so awesome and gorgeous. It is SSS Tier quality
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>>5004016
>If those life signs are still human, they can only be protected by slaying Kamal Kanan and ending this madness before he consigns the entire region to the darkest layer of hell. March on and tear Kamal Kanan apart.
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>>5004016
>Find the survivors and have Kanzeon lead them to safety, if they are indeed human, while we move to slay the Sorcerer.
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>>5004026
holy shit that s cool
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>>5004016
>>The Veil between life and death is weak here. Not all spirits are malevolent as you know. Seek audience with Magnus, and call forth the noble soul of Small Chen with his aid, as Guozhi called the Dai Monks.
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>>5004016
Update had me thinking the voters had Lieren fuck around for to long and as a result we have daemon prince Kamal and a bunch of genocided cities, but it seems the towers were a good call, perhaps the cities as well if they were all rigged for the sacrifice rather then just the nine biggest.
Guessing we couldn't have avoided this unless perhaps Lieren rushed Kamal on a jet bike, at the cost of fighting everything and everyone at once.
>Find these survivors, it is not like there's anyone left for Kamal Kanan to kill when he's turned the seat of his power into the largest graveyard upon Shangrala
>If those life signs are still human, they can only be protected by slaying Kamal Kanan and ending this madness before he consigns the entire region to the darkest layer of hell. March on and tear Kamal Kanan apart.
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>>5004016
>Ask Kanzeon to go to the survivors and if they are indeed escapees from Kanan's vile program, they will need protection.
>If those life signs are still human, they can only be protected by slaying Kamal Kanan and ending this madness before he consigns the entire region to the darkest layer of hell. March on and tear Kamal Kanan apart.
We'll need to institute breeding programs to repopulate the Shunni, I guess. And the cities will have to be rebuilt, perhaps themselves acting as NDCs to stave off the taint you get from massacring an entire population.
>>5004026
Pretty goddamn based. I dig that we're carrying on the primarch tradition of having large animal pelts draped around our shoulders. I also kinda see a twinge of Fulgrim in our features, which is funny.
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>>5004119
> I also kinda see a twinge of Fulgrim in our features, which is funny.

I can see it.
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>>5004133
Come to think of it, I'd buy it as someone's depiction of Fulgrim if he landed on Chogoris before Cegorach swapped him and the Khan. Always loved that what-if.
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>>5004087
>Guessing we couldn't have avoided this unless perhaps Lieren rushed Kamal on a jet bike, at the cost of fighting everything and everyone at once.
Only way we could have avoided this is if we teleported on him and channeled the Emperor.
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>>5004026
That's fucking amazing. I'm continually surprised that fan work can match (and in some cases is superior to) the art done for GW.
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>>5004259
The quality of official GW art (and content as a whole for that matter) has been on the decline for years. They should have kept Blanche and Smith in cages so they'd have a consistant source of good content.
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>>5004016
>>Find these survivors, it is not like there's anyone left for Kamal Kanan to kill when he's turned the seat of his power into the largest graveyard upon Shangrala
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>>5004016
>>Ask Kanzeon to go to the survivors and if they are indeed escapees from Kanan's vile program, they will need protection.
I want Kanzeon to be out of the way while we channel the Emperor against Kamal and whatever daemons he's summoned.
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>If those life signs are still human, they can only be protected by slaying Kamal Kanan and ending this madness before he consigns the entire region to the darkest layer of hell. March on and tear Kamal Kanan apart.

>The Veil between life and death is weak here. Not all spirits are malevolent as you know. Seek audience with Magnus, and call forth the noble soul of Small Chen with his aid, as Guozhi called the Dai Monks.
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>>5004016
> Whilst you and Kanzeon focus on ending Kamal Kanan once and for all, the Brotherhood can go forth and rescue as many as they can.
I'm sure some of the Vishnu will gripe about the Shuni peasantry being weak or cowardly, but all it takes is the reminder that if it weren't for Lieren's act of kindness, they would have suffered a fate worse than death.
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>>5004016
This one >>5004313 has me intrigued as well. Throwing support behind it.

I don't necessarily think Small Chen's ghost could be summoned, nor should it. However, maybe the Yin moonlight gifted by Arianka can help?
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>>5004026
Now that's really nice.
Don't need to worry about the mark, it's just a matter of time until we piss of the other gods and complete the set anyway.
>>5004016
>If those life signs are still human, they can only be protected by slaying Kamal Kanan and ending this madness before he consigns the entire region to the darkest layer of hell. March on and tear Kamal Kanan apart.
>The Veil between life and death is weak here. Not all spirits are malevolent as you know. Seek audience with Magnus, and call forth the noble soul of Small Chen with his aid, as Guozhi called the Dai Monks.
I guess the towers and cities were meant to be a sacrifice and curse when destroyed and empower while standing or something.
We would be different flavor of fucked no matter what, so this outcome is alright.
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>>5004337
>I don't necessarily think Small Chen's ghost could be summoned
Why would Malal make it an option if we can't do it?
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>>5004016
>The Veil between life and death is weak here. Not all spirits are malevolent as you know. Seek audience with Magnus, and call forth the noble soul of Small Chen with his aid, as Guozhi called the Dai Monks.
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>>5004016
>Ask Kanzeon to go to the survivors and if they are indeed escapees from Kanan's vile program, they will need protection.

>If those life signs are still human, they can only be protected by slaying Kamal Kanan and ending this madness before he consigns the entire region to the darkest layer of hell. March on and tear Kamal Kanan apart.
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>>5004016
>>The Veil between life and death is weak here. Not all spirits are malevolent as you know. Seek audience with Magnus, and call forth the noble soul of Small Chen with his aid, as Guozhi called the Dai Monks.
>If those life signs are still human, they can only be protected by slaying Kamal Kanan and ending this madness before he consigns the entire region to the darkest layer of hell. March on and tear Kamal Kanan apart.

Time to obliterate Kamal.

>>5004026
Based, this makes me happy thanks for using Chen symbol and fitting that it s on the Chendao too. Also the panther further looks more alien which again is just great, in the symbol made at the start it wasn t never fully alien as i hoped to make it.
But with this we are right on the road.
Thanks for making the commission and thanks for the artist.
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>>5004016
>Find these survivors, it is not like there's anyone left for Kamal Kanan to kill when he's turned the seat of his power into the largest graveyard upon Shangrala
>If those life signs are still human, they can only be protected by slaying Kamal Kanan and ending this madness before he consigns the entire region to the darkest layer of hell. March on and tear Kamal Kanan apart.

>Write in
Whats the status of the panther boi's? If their able lets regroup and commit to the plan

>>5004026
Love the art Anon, amazing
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Does anyone have all the tenants of the Journey compiled? I figured I'd ask before scrolling through the archives on the off chance someone's taking notes as we go.
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https://youtu.be/1iEvf19179o
Far from home, a man with a mission
In the mist of the nurturing fog
In the heart of ancient deception
This man's journey has only begun

Lead the charge
A hunter has entered the battlefield
Sabotage
The Great Game is about to unfold

As the night falls and Shangrala calls
One man spreads his azure wings, as the battle begins
May the land lay claim on to Lieren name
Eight paths turned inward reveal the way

A revolt to gain salvation
Hide and seek, hunters hot on their trail
Joined their ranks, orchestrate their damnation
Side by side raid the Tyrants' estates

Lead the charge
Yan, Shuni, Vishnu calls
Sabotage
Demolish their idols to dust

As the night falls and Shangrala calls
One man spreads his azure wings, as the battle begins
May the land lay claim on to Lieren name
Eight paths turned inward reveal the way

As the night falls and Shangrala calls
One man spreads his azure wings, as the battle begins
May the land lay claim on to Lieren name
Eight paths turned inward reveal the way

I tried.
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>>5005367
I think most of them have been posted during the Huli Jing and Keeper of Rust fights. I know that at least one other anon had the same idea and was summarizing the Journey to make it easier.
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>>5005367
No one compiled them, we made some pastebins but they are all of several threads ago, and those are about our plans and the characters. Plans are still somewhat fine, the characters one is very outdated.
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We're gonna need a new thread soon.
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Calling the vote now. Sorry for the wait.

Find these survivors, it is not like there's anyone left for Kamal Kanan to kill when he's turned the seat of his power into the largest graveyard upon Shangrala:5
-And have kanzeon lead them to safety:2

If those life signs are still human, they can only be protected by slaying Kamal Kanan and ending this madness before he consigns the entire region to the darkest layer of hell. March on and tear Kamal Kanan apart.:9

The Veil between life and death is weak here. Not all spirits are malevolent as you know. Seek audience with Magnus, and call forth the noble soul of Small Chen with his aid, as Guozhi called the Dai Monks.: 6

Ask Kanzeon to go to the survivors and if they are indeed escapees from Kanan's vile program, they will need protection.: 3

Whilst you and Kanzeon focus on ending Kamal Kanan once and for all, the Brotherhood can go forth and rescue as many as they can.:1

Regroup with the brothers of the panthers and plan: 1

Total votes:16

So Lieren will just rush to kill Kamal Kanan, deciding the only way to save the survivors in the heartland and the rest of the populace is by ending his corrupted reign

Writing now.
>>5005638
I like it.

>>5006119
Yep,
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"The only way to save them, is to slay their oppressor. The Shuni are adapted to survive in this climate, by culture and tradition if not blood alone" You state as Kazeon forlornly gazes down the empty streets, that continue to squirm and wheeze with the most abhorrent life you have yet witnessed "The heart land, though it has been violated and befouled by Kamal Kanan and the sorcery of the Shuni themselves, is still fertile and full of life. If I ride to personally bring these wayward souls under my protection"

"You'll be lighting a beacon to their location, drawing whatever doom befell these cities and their unfortunate inhabitants to the enclave of the few who survived it" Kanzeon sighs through her teeth, eyes narrowed and brow furrowed. Neither she nor yourself like that you must keep from rushing to the aid of those who have experienced a tragedy beyond imagining, but it is the only way to protect them from their oppressor. A tyrant who sits just a days ride away from where you now tread.

"Death is too gentle of a punishment for a man like him" Kanzeon mutters furiously as she grinds her heel into a paving stone that had began to sprout crab like limbs "Once we've quarantined and demolished this city, we are riding directly to his palace and throwing him from it"

"As I was already planning to do, you'll hear no dissent against that plan from me" You say, as you wire the last charge to a bulging esophagus that has formed around what was once a towering aqueduct. As if in a show of defiance, the abominable creature that had emerged from the stone and waters spits and froths a foul smelling liquor upon your hands, as if it realizes you intend to condemn it and all of its misbegotten kin to death

You pause to wipe the spittle from your face, and sigh

"Before we began this hunt, I could not have imagined the horrors the Shuni People endured and even invited and celebrated the arrival of" You muse ruefully as you flick mucus and some form of green silt from your fingers "I thought the atrocities of the Yan court was the worst humanity could muster, but ever step we take in this blighted land we meet another lunatic who weaves the flesh of his fellow men into living weapons, or a priest who feeds children to a yawning toothed pit or some other form of yet unseen monstrosity"

"Do not give into despair" Kanzeon says softly, wrapping her hand around yours "The ruling class of this nation may be loathsome and repugnant beyond what could be considered mundane cruelty, but we have terminated their lives and ended their abuse of the lands and their people"

"An insufficient salve" You reply, gripping her slender hand tightly, seeking comfort in its soft touch "It brings me no joy to kill a monster, when its victims lie dead at my feet"

"At least in killing it, it can do no more harm, and in erasing its influences and contaminations it will be forgotten in the ages to come" Kanzeon consoles you as she weaves and curls her fingers around yours
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>>5006416

The wretched city where stone has become flesh and flesh has become stone, wheezes and cries in despair as the two of you near its outskirts. The repugnant life that has sprouted from the wombs that were once houses and wells, skitter, struggling against each other like eels in a bucket to escape the death they instinctively sense approaching.

This cursed place, if it had been allowed to mature and flourish, may have one day stood as a titanic affront to all that was natural and good in this world and all others. But now, it would be reduced to a smoldering, ash strewn crater. A stillborn monstrosity.

Simultaneous explosions shake the ground beneath your feet, many miles away from the site that was once a flourishing, lively place. A city, that like seven before it and the one beyond it, that was brought to its end by the misfortune of being ruled by sorcerous of the most wicked character and vile nature. The fogs and mists ripple with the pressure produced by the cataclysmic demolition, and dust and fire plumes high into the night sky. And beneath the thunderous rumbling of the explosion, you can hear the death cries of menagerie of horrors.

Kanzeon's eyes fill with tears. Seeing the eight emptied cities has reminded her of the fate of her own passengers and crew, and the wretchedness of their decedents. For a weaker will, it would be the death of hope. But she has endured centuries, Eons of isolation and darkness. Memories and recollection can do little to harm her now. Instead, they only serve to fuel her rage and strengthen the conviction shared between both of you. The conviction to kill the tyrant sorcerer Kamal Kanan, and at last bring this unrelenting nightmare to an end.

Before the arrival of dawn, you are waylaid upon the road by another ambitious fool who believes he can succeed where hundreds, thousands of others have failed. And like those who came before him, you easily beast the over confident sorcerer and his pack of chained magical beasts with Kanzeon assistance.

With armor and weapons as advance as those you wield and wear, and the martial and psykerist styles and techniques you have trained for years and tested against spirits and greater men than those who now seek to claim your life, have made this "hunt" a slaughter. A force smaller than a company in the imperial army, has brought one of the greatest nations upon Shangrala to its knees.

Because of their technological superiority and training. Only the spells and curses wielded by the ruling class of heretic sages can hope to pierce their armor, and that small advantage is circumvented by the Null Denouncement Charms worn by all of the brothers of the panther. Only the thinning of the boundary between worlds and the presence of spirits endanger their lives. And that is avoid by your absence.
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>>5006417

The Shuni lands may be closer to the Empyrean than those of Long Jia, however all of those men and devils who could exploit the weakness of the veil are focused on claiming your head.

Like the man you have slain as the sun rises above the steaming peaks of the Shuni Capital city.

If he had waylaid your brothers, attacked them from the shadows with his leashed monstrosities, he would have posed a threat to them. As would the mirror skinned devil called to the defense of the first city you approached. They are ambitious, and thus blinded to the fate they earn themselves. Even their armies have been distracted and divided by petty interfamial loyalties and grudges, allowing themselves to deplete what few resources they still hold against themselves while losing what they do not to lightning strikes and raids carried out by the brother's of the panther.

"Fate the salve of fools" You state hatefully as the sorcerer beneath your foot wails about visions and prophecies promising your death by his hand "Nothing is set in stone or predetermined, your "God" lied to you and showed you a glimpse of what might be, and said it was certain"

His pathetic cries stop as you crush his chest with a single stomp, ending his life by the rupturing of most of his internal organs.

"There's an army ahead of us, just beyond that peak. He must've broke off in an idiotic attempt to take the glory for himself" Kanzeon dully states as she methodically gathers the mutated beasts together to burn them with their master's corpse

"I'm surprised any sorcerers and spirits remain to form an army before the final gate" You state angrily, crossing your arms as Kanzeon tilts her head. She's relying on the sensor array in her true body, diverting much of her mind's processes and power to reach as far into the Shuni Lands as you've trekked to survey the road ahead.

"I...have a hypothesis, Lieren" She says quietly, sounding equal parts horrified and enraged by the conclusion she has come to "That the army that stands in our path, is comprised mostly of mutated life forms, judging from the wide variation between their size and movements"

"And we found no corpses in the eight empty cities" You snarl, a black rage flaring in your mind, briefly blotting out all thought and consciousness before you reign the wild rage and regain control of yourself "How utterly unforgiveable"

"A sound strategy, but one that has all but ensured a most painful demise for Kamal Kanan" Kanzeon spat, after sucking on her tongue to actually produce enough saliva to do so "It's difficult...to process the fact that the son of a bitch actually used the populace of eight metropolitan areas to build an army of mindless animals to impede our arrival to his strong hold"

"It was done out of spite" You snarl, jaw clenched and ears ringing "Just like Yan Weizha schemed, Kamal Kanan achieved. Denying his enemies their victory by massacring his own subjects"
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>>5006418

"but he has gone a step further into immorality by not simply killing them, but going so far as to reduce them to a pitiful and tortured state. All to sneer from his tower and send them at us as attack dogs"

"Humanity is its own worst enemy" Kanzeon muses as you watch the corpse of one of the few intelligent servants of Kamal Kanan burn with those of his victims.

"The sorcerer will pay for this" You say solemnly, as if you were speaking an oath to the souls trapped in prisons of their own flesh, twisted and malformed by the curses uttered by a tyrant madder than any other.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l76unGjRtBs

No songs are sung and no tales are told of the "Final battle" foretold by the mad prophet, Kamal Kanan. Only daemons recall the war waged against a single man and his lady, who came seeking the head of their pawn who orchestrated the last defense of his citadel, creating an army of chaos spawn, champions maddened by the weight of their mutations and lesser sorcerers empowered by the encroaching energies of the warp and the gifts of the architect of fate. The black king, the child of the endless night, the soul devourer had wished to unleash the ogre hidden within Lieren's heart.

He had expected the primarch to be unwilling to grant his forces a merciful death, to still be a novice in the ways of sorcerous battle. He had misunderstood the golden eyed giant's nature and resolve. And nothing he could muster and call against him, could halt or even slow his approach to his palace upon the mountains peak.

The changer of ways seethed as the blood god laughed from his brass citadel, as the home of his champion was surrounded by a sea of blood and corpses. As the last general was cut down by Lieren's Guandao and the last chaos spawn was executed by the Archeotech pistol Kanzeon's "avatar" carried, the "final battle" came to a close.

How foolish Kamal Kanan was, expecting Magical Beasts to be a match for the Greater Hunter of the wilds. He had wished to enrage the giant, and had succeeded at the price of losing what loyal servants remained to guard him.

Now, he sat alone in his tower, surrounded by spirits and the mewling beasts that had been his own flesh and blood, waiting for the arrival of the "Sacrifice" the prophecy of his birth had promised him.

However, Fate is naught but the salve of fools...
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Drenched in blood and fluids without names, you marched through the silent, stygian halls of the Kamal Kanan's palace. Silks were draped over the sandstone and marvel floors, statues of gods and kings stood crying above their emptied temple city. Spirits skittered and stalked through the dark, rattling bones picked clean of flesh and skin. Mournful, maddened ghosts wandered the towers and shrines before the seat of the mad tyrant. No candles were lit, and the sky beyond the windows black shifted constantly showing at once horizons dotted with crystal and silver towers and then a field of painted and dyed glass
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>>5006423

and chittering beetles and swaying trees formed of the flesh of lunatics and scholars alike.

Kanzeon stood at your side, eyes filled with a quiet fury, colder than the ice fields of bask. She walked with purpose, with a sense of duty, filled with a desire to avenge those who she had never met or even saw.

Kamal Kanan's court is lined with tomes and scrolls penned with glowing ink. Magical beasts sit beneath his feet, spewing oily discharge and blood flecked saliva at the turquoise encrusted marble tiles they suffer upon. Glowing crystals, similar to those produced by Kanzeon's "Broken heart" shimmer in the air, dancing and flying like clouds of butterflies or sparrow's flock. Braziers burning with crystallized bones and putrefied tongues, cast a sickly wisteria petal hued glow upon the grandiose decoration of the room. Pillars carved with depictions of a thousand lives, ever changing and altering, hewn in silver and set in jasper and pearls. Silk screens flutter, as if moved by unseen hands and unfelt winds.

Upon a throne hewn of glass and silver, carved into a depiction of two vipers rising and intertwining together in either a lurid mating ritual or unnatural battle to the death, sits Kamal Kanan himself.

The lord of empty cities, the king of silence.

He is malformed beyond repugnance, beyond vileness. Two horns rise from his blacked brow and curl over his head. A crown shaped of fire sits between them, framing the dark lord's features with an unnatural silver radiance. His skin is as dark as onyx, with crawling, living veins surging beneath its surface. Scales and feathers intermingle along his arms and shoulders, while thick silver fur dominates his legs, which end in a cloud of azure fog A serpent rises from his back, like a tail, and two pairs of great feathered wings wrap around his body. His eyes smolder with venom, and inhuman hatred. An expression of disgust passes by his shrunken lips, revealing a mouth filled by crooked fangs and slithering tongues that sprout like weeds from his pale gums. A sucking appendage flicks from his mouth, lined with thorns and gaping sphincter maws. A greying black beard hides a dozen other mutations, but you can see tiny hands grooming and braiding it as Kamal Kanan raises his head. A large, unblinking eye sits in the center of his throat, surrounded by skin that appears to have begun to transition to hewn stone. Ink like oil falls from all numerous eyes, that peek from beneath fur and feathers.

A spirit, hidden by a black cloak, sits behind his throne, carving a tablet as he watches in silence.

Kamal Kanan raises a filled goblet in a mock toast to you as he rises upon a tail of smoke. He is dressed in living armor, like the carapace of a crab. Biting pincers and suckling pods of flesh cling to his body, holding the vile regalia to him by binding it to his very bones and the marrow within.
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>>5006425

"At last, my honored guest has sought an audience with me and entered my court, does my throne not amaze you? Giant born of alchemy and science? Does it grandeur not quiet the mind and astound the senses! Generations of collected knowledge, enshrined within the temple of the one true god's prophet and champion" He proclaims, exulting in and stoking his own ego as you continue to march towards him "It is a hallowed place, a place of holy sacrifice and worship, an archive of my people's eons of research and contemplation. A place where the heavens meet the earth! The site of our birth and"

Kanzeon freezes, halting momentarily as she realizes the implications of the mad man's ramblings.

"It shall be the site of my ascension! Rejoice! Peasant and Harlot! For you are to be blessed as witnesses to of greater importance than any other upon this blasted, fog shrouded rock!" He laughs, raising a scepter topped by a rolling ball of white smoke into the air before snapping it over his knee, laughing like mad as he throws his arms and wings apart.

And nothing happens.

Kamal Kanan pauses, eyes widening as he glanced around the blackened room in a panic, mumbling and whispering as you sneered and took another step forward

"Did you expect a feast of souls, old man?" You mock, throwing your own arms apart, blood dripping from them as Kamal Kanan glares furiously down at you "I am nothing if not cautious, I prepare for every eventuality and possibility you doddering fool! Did you think I would destroy mindlessly? Breaking conduits of the empyrean's energy, Wells of malevolent power, without taking measures to circumvent their further use? DID YOU REALLY THINK I WOULD NOT REALIZE THOSE TOWERS WERE FLOOD GATES UPON A NATION WIDE SPIRTUAL CHANNEL! FUNNELED DIRECTLY TO YOUR BLACKENED SOUL?!"

"The charms...of course, I should anticipated your use of such irksome babbles!" He mutters, before snarling, as his veins light up with motes of silver light "NO MATTER! The sacrifice may not be complete or even fulfilled by half, but dozens...thousands of lives fuel yet fuel my power, you blind wretch"

You fold your arms and incline your head while Kanzeon glares murderously at Kamal Kanan, her mind quiet except for a string of repeated code that is easily translated into a curse more offensive than any you've heard before.

The spirit scribe raises its head and drops its chisel, and raises its now free hand to pinch where its nose would be on its featureless face.

"You utter fool, Kamal Kanan" It whispers, like a disappointed father "You cannot overcome the giant through brute strength or drowning him in your own darkness, you imbecile, he has done as you should have and devised a counter to your every strength. You may have bloated your own soul with countless others, mimicking us neverborn, but you failed to realize, to understand that..."

"Lieren understands everything he sees" Kanzeon states triumphantly as the spirit hisses and spits in irritation
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>>5006426

"AND HE'S RESISTED THE WILL AND FURY OF THE GODS! WHAT HOPE DO YOU HAVE AGAINST HIM!?" The scribe raves, as if driven mad by Kamal Kanan's confidence and bottomless ego "Centuries of my guidance and tutelage! WASTED BY A FOOL WHO COULDN'T COMPREHEND HIS ONE VICTORY AGAINST HIS FOE WAS WON BY SURPRISE ALONE!"

"What?" The Prophet hisses as you step before him, reducing the distance between the two of you enough that it could be cleared in a single bound.

What is your first move against Kamal, Lieren?

>Explain how his soul and sorcery suffer from and rely upon an overabundance of Yin Qi, while his personality and ambitions are opposed to it. Thus, by utilizing the Wuxing and the Night Crane style, all of his stolen power can be taken from him. And what does he have left then?

>Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty

>Calmly explain what you and Kanzeon are going to do to him for his many crimes against humanity, while slowly approaching him. When he moves to strike you down with his empowered sorcery, leap forward and break his jaw with a single blow

>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.

>Write in

While Kamal Kanan was scheming, Lieren was training
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>>5006427
>Explain how his soul and sorcery suffer from and rely on an overabundance of Yin Qi.
>Demonstrate the difference in power by preforming Reality flickers before the approaching storm [Fury]

This moronic sorcerer deserves to understand just how much he's underestimated us, then embolden ourselves with fury to empower our strikes.
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>>5006431
But seriously, FUCK THIS MAN.

Can he not understand the utter ass rape in store, His every scheme and every trick has so far backfired, with each move we make executed flawlessly.
His armies dropped, His cities emptied, his soul eating scheme foiled, and his own mentor exasperated to the point of ridiculiousness.

And when faced with our dark fury, that no Vishnu could compare too, his sorcererous arts will falter and with the Night Crane style, his ability to use psychic energy itself are going to be gone.

So what does he have left? What does this moron actually have left?! A court of minor demons? did he learn to be a muscle wizard? Rely on his mutations? What did this actual motherfucking fool plan on doing at this juncture?!
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>>5006427
>>Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty
We all gotta cut loose sometime.
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>>5006427
>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
>Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty
No monologing please.
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>>5006460
Fair enough.

Change >>5006431 to cut out the explaination, but still use Wuxing and Nightcrane to remove his psychic abilities. It's the best opening play.
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>>5006427
>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
Then just like, have Kanzeon shoot him. We've got a sister-in-law to introduce ourselves to and a country to uplift. Hope Jinhai can excuse our absence while we help with the latter.
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>>5006427
>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
He doesn't deserve an explanation of how much he's fucked/fucked up.
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>>5006481
Nope we need to save the Vishnu.
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>>5006427
>Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty
>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
I wouldn't mind a monologue myself... but actions speak louder than words.
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>>5006427
>>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
>>Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty
Kamal will be the ultimate example of the folly of daemonic cultivation.
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>>5006427
>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
>While Kamal Kanan was scheming, Lieren was training
lmaoo

"While you where busy making deals with spirits, i was training by lifting mountains and creating new war proof infrastructure just with my hands alone."
"While you where busy being a tyrant and rolling over in your pride like a horned boar in the mud, i was preparing with new teachings and with new technology both the military and psykers of my people making them one of the best of the world."
"While you where busy making plans of subterfuge, i was making 6D future development plans with my love for the prosperity of all of Shangrila."
"While you where busy preparing your sacrifices circles and hexes, i had fought one of the strongest spirits in existence and put shame on his name."
"While you where busy forcing a great portion of our people in to become an army of horrors, i was striking at the speed of lightning across your realm arriving right at your doorstep."
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>>5006489
A three against one war will help us save them all the quicker.
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>>5006499
I am laughing.

But is fury related to Yin Qi?
If so, our moonlight would be double effective. If not, let him eat first, then fury
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>>5006507
Incorrect. The last Vishnu kingdom is under attack. If we don't go they after this we risk them losing and being slaughtered on top of them moving on to attack our country. We need to at the very least stalemate them. The Shunni will not be able to offer any help in case you are thinking of roping them into this war.
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>>5006528
Lieren already said he won't face Nitya until he is the sole king of the Vishnu.
Jinhai is already working if the plan of removing Kamal and allying with the Bask.
We need to end this quickly, help the Shuni rebels start to rebuild and rush to the Bask lands to help with diplomacy, and to see if they are corrupted too.
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>>5006528
>The last Vishnu kingdom is under attack.
I'm well aware, and so is Lieren. In fact, he's waiting until the Nitya conquers it to do anything. There's no reason we should just twiddle our thumbs and wait idly for him to unite the Vishnu lands. There's every reason to uplift the Shunni (and Bask, for that matter).
>The Shunni will not be able to offer any help in case you are thinking of roping them into this war.
I believe you mean "The Shunni in their current state will not be able to offer any help." Surely you weren't assuming we'd unleash a couple thousand unarmed not!arab peasants and hope they turn the tide of the war?
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>>5006427
>>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
>>Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty
>>5006515
Ever heard of the fury of a woman scorned?
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>>5006427
>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
>Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty

weaver of fates BTFO'd again by Feng Shui and rage
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>>5006427
>>Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty
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>>5006567
It's hilarious that Lieren is pretty much Tzeentch's worst nightmare given how he can cut through bullshit with the merest glance of his special eyes.
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>>5006699
>triple dubs
>first set is double 9's
>Tzeentch's sacred number
>second set is double 6's
>Slaanesh's sacred number
>final set is double 0's
>0 = Nothing = Dead
I think something is celebrating our victories over Chaos.
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>>5006706
Kek is either a minor chaos god or greater daemon of Malal.
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>>5006709
Malal is a shard of Kek
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>>5006427
>Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty
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>>5006427
>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
>Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty
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>>5006427
>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
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>>5006427
>>Write in
>just fucking kill him.
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>>5006499
kek
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>>5006820
that never works man.
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>Explain how his soul and sorcery suffer from and rely upon an overabundance of Yin Qi, while his personality and ambitions are opposed to it. Thus, by utilizing the Wuxing and the Night Crane style, all of his stolen power can be taken from him. And what does he have left then?

We must strip everything from him. Let his loss be paraded across our kingdom. Also we can get his remaining officers to surrender.

Ah yes. we can also harvest his memories for what ever horrible surprises he may have hidden for the future. A surprise DaemonGate Cult would be just the thing to fuck up our day.

CONSTANT VIGILANCE!
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>>5006864
Can we also appreciate that it took the Overlord of the Shuni and mortal champion of Tzeench upon shangrala to top how much we hated Gao.

That's just. . . insane.
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>>5006866
Yeh. He sucks balls. Maybe we should turn him over to the Kang.
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>>5006886
His head to see.

The rest, we burn. And the head swiftly after.
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>>5006427
>Utilize the Wuxing and the Night Crane style to cripple Kamal Kanan.
>Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.
No more monologuing to our enemies ever again, just a bad habit.
Also channeling rage is likely a bad fucking idea, Khorne is watching, the veil between worlds is razor thin, and Khorne is direct and simple, not stupid. Do we really want to take a chance that Khorne might pull off a surprise ambush by exploiting the situation to drop one of his stronger dudes like U'Zhul the Skulltaker on top of us to kill steal Kamal and make this a dangerous fight?
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>>5006858
Sad. It always works for Ork.
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>>5006937
>No more mologuing
Boooooooooooooring. Memorable foes deserve some back and forth.

>Using rage is gonna bring Khorne on us
A possibility, but a slim one all things considered. Especially if he tries for some subtlty and hopes that will shift us to his worship. Or he just ignores the event and enjoys watching Tzeech's champion be slaughtered, since interfering gives a chance for the sorcerer to escape, thus threatening his own champion.

>A greater daemon of Khorne appearing to slay Kamal
Again, I immensely doubt that since undercutting one of our rivals to replace with a bloodthirster is A] a poor writing move and B] it takes saturating a field in endless washes of blood to let demons step through, this field being so aspected to Tzeench means that Khorne's lack of blood here in the temple to Tzeench has the chance really rather slim.
Now if Kamal dies, a changer of ways plopping in? More likely.
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>>5005367
I tried.
It's separated into Tenets, that are the one we voted for; Lessons, Which are what Lieren chanted when battling; Dialogues, which are conversations Lieren had explaining his teaching; and Musings, which are thoughts Lieren had about the Journey
I also removed a few direct references to daemons because I don' think that Lieren would write that into the Book, specially after the talk with Emps, but I see the Musings part as non-canon anyway and it's there only to better understand how his thought process.
I probably missed some parts because in the middle of thread 4 I got bored and just control f Journey and skimmed the updates, instead of carefully reading the entire archive.
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>>5006427
>>Calmly explain what you and Kanzeon are going to do to him for his many crimes against humanity, while slowly approaching him. When he moves to strike you down with his empowered sorcery, leap forward and break his jaw with a single blow
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>>5006969
You're a king amongst men, anon. Much appreciated.
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>>5006969
very based, good job.

>I also removed a few direct references to daemons because I don' think that Lieren would write that into the Book, specially after the talk with Emps,
Depends honestly. On one hand Shangrila and his peoples have experienced the sufferings brought by spirits and their pawns. Some more directly than others, some have even face them. Walk in to them and say "oh that was just an hallucination or a war machine", feels very dishonest.
In addition Shangrila is naturally weaker in it s "barriers" between reality and irreality, which could bring it in a situation similar to Cadia if this cannot be changed (as in not with a giant wound for space hell to use as a bridge, but for knowledge to give. And cadians are exactly given that knowledge which is outlawed in the majority of the imperium).
Besides i don t like the idea of lying or purging his own companions or disciples or friends, or the people that had to face spirits or magical beasts. Their wounds and losses are all very real.
On the other hand we also talked with our father. I imagine is best if we talk about it when we will encounter him, so in the future. We will have plenty of time there on our official encounter than the warp skype calls.
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>>5007247
I think Lieren would probably only directly instruct the wanderers or trusted people about it, sneak in a few rituals that help combat chaos or try to convince others in a more vague way from now on.
Anyway, it doesn't matter too much in relation to that compilation, since the only thing I cut where Lieren directly thinking about how Huli Jing was tge one that manipulated the Yan's fall and corruption, and left out the letter that Lieren sent when going to the capital alone, the one that said how to handle a potential corrupted artifact. The former is part of the musings, which I consider something that Lieren wouldn't have written in the Journey directly, and the latter had basically nothing with the teachings anyway.
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Calling the vote now

Use Wuxing and the Nightcrane style to seal off Kamal Kanan's sorcery:3
-Explain how his soul and sorcery suffer from an overabundance of yin Qi: 1

Show him the difference between your abilities and his own by performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm" Channeling the pure fury that has been vying to take control of you since you've witnessed the abomination of his dynasty:10

Bait him into trying to drain a portion of your own soul, and then poison him with its Moonlight.:11

Attempt to end him with a single stroke: 1

Calmly explain what you and Kanzeon are going to do to him for his many crimes against humanity, while slowly approaching him. When he moves to strike you down with his empowered sorcery, leap forward and break his jaw with a single blow: 1

Total vote: 18

Alright, SO Lieren will bait Kamal Kanan into attempting to drain his lifeforce, disorienting and poisoning him with the Pure Moonlight now within it

And while he is reeling, Counter by unleashing his rage and harnessing it to dye and hue reality with it briefly, performing "Reality flickers before the approaching storm", to show the difference between his psykerism and Kamal's sorcery

Writing now

Next vote will be the last of this thread, and lead into the next one.
>>5006969
Amazing work. You're also a legend and very based indeed

>>5006499
kek
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I find it entertaining that the champion of Tzeentch would trap himself in a situation where he could not win simply because he believed his victory would be his fate. The daemon is right to frustrated, this is like watching a spider get itself tangled in a web of it's own creation before being devoured by larger spider.
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Whatever has usurped and replaced Kamal Kanan's natural veins bulge and begin to crawl across his darkened, pitch black skin like so many marching ants. Flares of sickly white light pulse just beneath his hide, dripping across the demon's grimace he now wears, infuriated by the truth spoken and revealed to him freely. His conceit blinds him to reality. His pride has become so bloated and rooted in his psyche that it is nearly impossible for the sorcerer to realize that while he languished in the vile power he had hoarded and ponderously maneuvered pawns and set the board for his victory, you had trained your body, mind and soul beyond their natural limits and discovered or devised new methods of overcoming the difference of centuries of experience and countless devoured souls worth of sorcerous might. He was and remains confident that his stolen power renders him undefeatable, while you realized your weakness and sought to conqueror and circumvent each of them in turn.

Spiritual studies and occult research, tireless exertion, endless calculations. You even strengthened your heart and the emotions it produces by admitting your love and sharing it with Kanzeon! With your distant brother, you faced the wrath of beings who would masquerade as gods. And what has Kamal Kanan done in turn? Nothing, besides wait, observe and sneer, certain of his victory.

His zealous faith keeps him from striking down his own ally in a fit of pique, and instead her turns his now greatly deepened wrath towards you, his enemy. His eyes flicker with confusion, his devilish mask falling as he observes both you and Kanzeon for weakness and notices her lack of a presence in the "Great sea" as Magnus and the men of Prospero know it. Little does he realize, that is because her true body rests many leagues away. He quickly ignores and overlooks that discovery, deeming it unworthy of attention every so foolishly, unable to understand the implications beyond a gluttons disappoint of being unable to devour all that he perceives.

However, he was distracted by your lover's avatar long enough, the span of two breaths or more, long enough for you to not only devise a method of attack, choosing from a thousand potential angles and theorized motions to reach that which you deemed most efficient, but also long enough for you to set in motion the deception necessary to begin your assault and ensure it would cripple the Blindlord of the night's lament. It begins with a feint.

Like many of his ilk, Kamal Kanan is addicted to earthly pleasures and delight, judging from the compensation of his soul the monstrous magician has expanded these mortal indulgences to include the excessive consumption of the souls of maidens, girls and chaste young women alike. For why else would the dominate energy of his near bursting soul be the feminine Yin?
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>>5008020

Like the abominable prince of the Yan who devoured the flesh alongside the chastity of his victims, Kamal Kanan delights in the destruction of beauty and the source of new life. Though judging from the bloated state of his near bursting soul, he is not picky nor discerning of the identity of the lives expended to fuel his own, the majority until he glutted himself upon those who were not guarded by the Null Denouncement Charms, were women or oddly feminine men. Explaining why the majority of techniques and spells performed by his hands are related to darkness and night, and presenting a terrible weakness you are all to willing to exploit.

His eyes, perhaps instinctively fell upon Kanzeon first, searching for her soul to judge and measure its "Nutritional value" and "Taste" and Just as instinctively turned away the moment he did not perceive in her bossom the barest sign of a living spirit's presence. For, Kanzeon soul resides within her true body. But this reveals that like a fog panther who has grown lame or lost its fangs, Kamal Kanan seeks weaker prey. His son, Salam, suffered from an overabundance of Yang energy that he in turn utilized to fuel his terrible power. You had theorized, that if such might was not natural to him, he had cultivated it through devouring the souls of likeminded men, warriors and killers.

His father did the opposite, he has fed his magic upon the natural energies within all women and whether he realizes it or not, now instinctively seeks them out as fodder, like they were naught but swine for the slaughter. Subconsciously, he categorizes Soul's suffused with Yin Qi to be both of greater value and delectability. It is a wholly animalistic reaction. One that he had unknowing trained and conditioned into his psyche.

That is why, when faced with the man who had killed him once before and stood before him intent on repeating that accomplishment, his eyes first fellow to the woman at his side. A glutton is always searching for their next meal, be it grain, meat, liquor or in this peculiar case, souls.

He does not even realize his own bias. And thus, it will be easily exploited. And thus Kamal Kanan will invite his own doom.

Focusing inwards, you allow the silver moonlight within your heart to overcome the Golden sea that surrounds it. Manifesting it alone,you adopt an elegant stance, one of the Night Crane's many, to more easily channel and utilize the Yin Qi. In the Astral Realm, the calamitous winds that embodied Kamal Kanan and this palace as fount of taint and sin, are broken by gentle, soothing streams of snow flecked water. A serene gale of winter's frigid air, blows through the throne room, delicately dancing and twirling through the silks and past the fragrant smokes. A strange sensation, similar to the relief one feels when bathed with cold water, cascades down from your eyes, centered within a swirling energy directly within your pupils.
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Silver replaces gold, as frost crawls down your cheeks like mournful tears.

Kanzeon steps away, moving to circle behind Kamal Kanan as the two of you lock gazes.

Unexpectedly, your opponent endures your bitter glare through spite alone, and within his turquoise eyes that mock the youthful blue of Guozhi's, hunger usurps indignant rage.

Seeking power, seeking advantage, seeking evidence to support his addled belief of superiority Kamal Kanan commits the most foolish action he could possibly commit to. To satisfy his pride, to empower himself, to weaken you, to end this battle before it can threaten his life, He outstretches his hand and uncurls its clawed fingers. Grasping blindly within the spiritual realm, his leech soul bites into your own, forcing a connection between the golden sea and the lake of night.


You allow him, in the physical realm, to brush his talons across your armored breast to perform this otherwise deadly technique. The sorcerer drinks deep the icy waters of your now Yin dominated soul, and freezes

The self indulgent pleasure that glowed within his eyes, is swiftly replaced with shocked confusion while his sneering smirk is replaced with a grimace of agony. He reels away from you, nearly directly into Kanzeon as silver waters pour from his agape mouth and wheeping eyes, ice forming and rooting itself into his flesh and his mock veins

"Step aside! Kanzeon!" You roar as you break the cage holding your murderous rage and inhuman bloodlust, unleashing it in full for the first time since you condemned Gao Liwei and his court

Kamal Kanan clutches his stomach, as a small orb of trapped moonlight burns inside of his gut. He wails, choking on it, struggling to purge himself of the single drop of your soul he managed to swallow before it nearly consumed him in turn
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Something was wrong! He was afflicted! Cursed! Ensorcelled by a hidden spell! A ward placed upon his rival's very soul! A horrid, painful illusion! A relentless mental assault lashed against him the moment he sought to devour the giant's essence! He should have noticed! the change in his soul's presence! It had lightened, become like his own! The moment he dug his fingers into Lieren's chest, the golden dawn become silvery night! It was almost unbelievable, that an infidel, a heathen witch could possess such cunning and wit

But then, the visions came, filling his heart with foreign emotions and alien sensations! Visions of fogless fields of snow, castles covered in frost and unshrouded by mists! Angels marching against legions of strange men, mounted upon strange predatory beasts unlike any he has heard described or seen with his own eyes, led by a woman clad in white veils seemingly woven from the snow at their feet and clad in armor made of sheets of ice. And then, he beholds his own face, a thousand times, repeated. He sees the lust, the hunger in his own eyes and feels a violating dread, a soul numbing terror that drives his astral avatar fleeing from himself
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>>5008024

Flashes, of a happy life, laughter and dancing soon replaced with scenes of despair and tears. He becomes his victims, he experiences the biting chill and the fear of the night! At once, his sanctuary becomes his hell, as the weight of his sins falls heavy upon his shoulders, as he feels what it is like to become the prey, the abused, the defiled.

A voice whispers in the dark of his skull, a sneering woman's disgusted condemnation mixed with the giant's snarling, murderous growl.

"Oh, I have met your kind countless times before, lord of sorcerers, father of fiends, King of liars and dog of chaotic spirits" It spoke to him, as he willed his senses back to the material realm to escape his torment, the woman's voiced vanished and he saw the giant standing before him but he did not speak yet he could hear his words "The curse that has befallen you, is nothing more than a comprehension of your crimes, I am impressed"

The air shifted, something was wrong. The air grew heavier, it began to burn and seethe with a foreign energy, a will that was not his own. Within a sphere that he stood within, both the realm of men and the divine shuddered beneath the weight of a will beyond any he had encountered in his centuries of life and service to the one true god and his eight celestial courts of angelic servants.

"Impossible" He spat through chattering teeth, unable to move, frozen in place by his own vital fluids "No mortal man could possess enough willpower to bend reality itself to it!"

"For nothing is real but what you create and what we create is reality" His guiding angel, whose tongue has turned treacherous spat as if in pain "Do you understand now! The force you have roused!? the enemy you have tempted"

The it all broke, with a sudden snap. Both the divine and the material broke, and allowed themselves to be shaped to the giant's whims, to be remade as he desired them to be as he willed them to be!

A wave of raw rage hit him like a collapsing wall, washing over him like the all consuming dunes of the deserts of his domain. A fury so pure, so potent it could only be equaled by the servants of the great enemy, the bloody father of the sun. Kamal Kanan screamed an incantation, to break his bindings of voidfrost and the frozen essence of the giant he had been tricked into swallowing.

But it was to late. He was no longer in his palace. His palace did not exist. The sphere of altered reality showed him a vision of hell. Rows upon rows upon rows of gallows and trees with branches drooped from bearing the corpses of hanged men and angels. A white path, made of bleached bones and tablets describing crimes and punishments stood before him, funerary fires burned around monolith statues of gold and mounds of wealth and treasures. A dirge of chants and mantras, an ancient unknowable incantation served as the wind for this limbo, the final resting place for all evil hearted men.
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The air stank of iron, and was oppressive with a bloodthirst only the truly wrathful could muster.

Before him, at the base of a great tree of strange sparking threads of copper, and glimmering fruits of emerald, sat Lieren. But he was not as he should be.

He was as an empty shell, cracked and broken open as he sat with legs crossed and head bowed in silent contemplation. A hand of black smoke crawled from a hollow in his back. It was titanic, gigantic, it dwarfed its host as broke away porcelain shards as it pulled itself free. Silver and golden glyphs burned along the monstrously muscled arm, that was soon joined by its twin. A loud crack heralded the emergence of a head so terrible, Kamal Kanan would have voided his bowels if he stilled possessed the necessary organs.

It was inhuman, possessing bloated lips and tusks and rows upon rows of fangs. Horns rose from its brows, crackling with ice and fire that washed down a man of wrought iron hair and furs that hung like a loose cloak upon its brow. Two eyes rose from the breaking shell of Lieren, flashing between gentle, caring silver and the raging, maddened eyes of a gold that burned so bright it became as the red of dawn's first light. The emptied shell of the giant fell away, to reveal a larger, more monstrous beast beneath.

A ghoul, and malevolent jinn, whose shoulder's brushed the sky and whose head was level with heaven itself. A mass of malevolence and boundless fury, incarnated into a body of the blackest smoke and the flesh of the burliest beasts.

It was an Ogre, Lieren's rage made manifest in flesh.

Kamal met its gaze, and screamed. The Ogre grinned ear to ear, revealing its tiger fangs as its tongue rolled past its lips of pitch.

Summoning his will, the sorcerer raise his arms, wings and scepter, calling upon all his sorcerous might and every spell he could conjure in the moment it took for the Ogre to rush and pounce upon him.

He shrieked as the ogre's hazy hide absorbed or resisted every ounce of his mite. His screams were silenced the beast took him in its hand, and began to brutalize and maul him, dragging through the road paved with bones and the recorded convictions of the dead and damned
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You screamed, your voice growing hoarse and weak as you slammed Kamal Kanan to the ground one last time, collapsing the floor beneath him and shaking the palace to its foundations before whipping him back into the air and slamming him into the wall by his arm. It comes loose, hanging on only by the abhorrent armor he wears. The wall gives way, revealing Shangrala's natural night sky for a moment before it is replaced by the nonsense horizon of the Warp.

Kamal Kanan falls with the chunk of his tower you knocked out of place with his back. His body shudders, struggling to repair the grievous internal damages and crippling injuries he sustained in being dragged, slammed and pummeled with all your unrestrained strength.

He manages to place a hand by his mouth, and swallows something
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>>5008027

Suddenly, his body swells grotesquely, as if it is struggling to match your own is height, size and muscularity.

Kanzeon draws her pistol, and fires three rounds directly towards his chest, but with a raised hand, he catches the plasma bolts and holds them still in the air even as they begin to burn and melt his flesh.

His eyes blaze with defiance, and he manages to sputter an incantation through his broken, hanging jaw.

His expanding body, becomes shadow and spreads itself, separating and splintering itself in a bid to save himself from his defenestration.

However, you can recognize which portion contains his soul, and nearly take his head as he remerged behind you, dagger raised to strike. The three plasma shots obliterate the fallen wall, and melt the other splotches of his shadowy body. Kamal Kanan now stands equal to you and Kanzeon in height, and is struggling to breath, stand, or even scurry away.

Muscles have torn their way through his skin, bleeding through the cracks of his living armor.

Dropping your Guandao to the floor, you lower your head and glare

"Pathetic" You growl, curling your lip to reveal your teeth

"Devil!" He cries out, holding his body together with more fear than will or anger, he raises his scepter

Kanzeon shoots it out of his hand, and melts his hand down to his wrist.


He shrieks, and wildly begins channeling all of his stolen power in a wild, desperate assault.

Unfortunately for him, however, you can see every thread woven into the sorcery he conjures.

What do you do, Lieren?

>"Detonate" What little remains of your stolen essence in his stomach, and perform one of the Wardens of Mysteries sealing techniques as he is very soul is unraveled

>Use the carp style's dance, dodge his panicked spells and hexes, and then render him defenseless with the Crane Style.

>Distract him with a showy display with your Guandao, giving Kanzeon the chance to line up a shot. After all, no one can survive being shot with searing hot plasma

>Just collapse the floor with a solid stomp while he's focused on casting spells, he may have grown to your and Kanzeon's size, but besides his mutations, his internal anatomy remains that of a baseline man. His heart would not be able to endure the shock of a sudden fall

>Write in
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>>5008028
>>Just collapse the floor with a solid stomp while he's focused on casting spells, he may have grown to your and Kanzeon's size, but besides his mutations, his internal anatomy remains that of a baseline man. His heart would not be able to endure the shock of a sudden fall, though it would be prudent to jump down after him to make sure
As fun as using our new stand 「OGRE BATTLE」 would be, we should probably test it out kek
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>>5008028
>"Detonate" What little remains of your stolen essence in his stomach, and perform one of the Wardens of Mysteries sealing techniques as he is very soul is unraveled

>Distract him with a showy display with your Guandao, giving Kanzeon the chance to line up a shot. After all, no one can survive being shot with searing hot plasma
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>>5008028
>"Detonate" What little remains of your stolen essence in his stomach, and perform one of the Wardens of Mysteries sealing techniques as he is very soul is unraveled
>Use the carp style's dance, dodge his panicked spells and hexes, and then render him defenseless with the Crane Style.
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>>5008028
>>Just collapse the floor with a solid stomp while he's focused on casting spells, he may have grown to your and Kanzeon's size, but besides his mutations, his internal anatomy remains that of a baseline man. His heart would not be able to endure the shock of a sudden fall
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>"Detonate" What little remains of your stolen essence in his stomach, and perform one of the Wardens of Mysteries sealing techniques as he is very soul is unraveled


Skadoosh.
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>"For nothing is real but what you create and what we create is reality"
Well that was quick to find a lesson of the journey i had forgotten to put in.
I didn't put the revelation because it was describing his new ability, but I did find a conversation with Cao where Lieren said it, so it's the part of it that I believe he would write down. The conversation also started with the important part of Musing I censored, so no need for it anymore.
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>>5008028
>>"Detonate" What little remains of your stolen essence in his stomach, and perform one of the Wardens of Mysteries sealing techniques as he is very soul is unraveled
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>>5008028
>Write in
>Use what little remains of your stolen essence in his stomach, the Crane Style martial arts, and you're knowledge of Wuxing to finally severe his connection to all the souls he's stolen.
I don't want to risk sending off those souls into damnation after we've defeated him.
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>>5008028
>>"Detonate" What little remains of your stolen essence in his stomach, and perform one of the Wardens of Mysteries sealing techniques as he is very soul is unraveled
>>Just collapse the floor with a solid stomp while he's focused on casting spells, he may have grown to your and Kanzeon's size, but besides his mutations, his internal anatomy remains that of a baseline man. His heart would not be able to endure the shock of a sudden fall
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>>5008175
I support.

Let's laugh as the silly man falls. But first, he needs to stop casting.
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>>5008131
Supporting this, I'd be somewhat bummed if we didn't use the anti magic pressure points style on the magic boss
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I hope op makes a new thread soon. I forgot how threads are supposed to fall of the board, but I think we're 10-12 threads away.
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>>5008131
Support.
He will become a mere weakling now
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>>5008131
+1
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>>5008131
Supporting
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>>5008131
Support, weakning him seems like a good idea
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>>5008028
Supporting >>5008131
Can add 'Liberator of Lost Souls' to Lieren's stream of titles.

Also, that Ogre scene was fucking righteous and a part of me wants more (even though it's probably an upsetting experience to go through and witness). Wonder if Kanzeon saw any of that spiritual shit or just her beloved going full RIP AND TEAR on Camel Crapsack?

> inb4 future Heresy takes place and someone tries to tempt 'The Ogre' into usurping control from Lieren
> Laughing monster noises followed by incoherent screaming
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>>5008131
What if we send them back into the wheel of reincarnation? Can we filter them through Kanzeon to make them anew?

New lives, new chances, new bodies?
Also get her to goddess mode and never have to worry about souless machines dogma from Mechanicus/ Get horribly berated by angry dad?

Where we counter with "Look. If we want to win the game of souls, we need to stop feeding them with ours. She already has prior work experience and thaumaturgical weight. If you wanna go HUMANITY FUCK YEAH, lets start here and make a filtration system."

(Also we're already doing a variation on the Eldanesh ritual by empowering our troops directly/mantling them to form vessels for our might. We could get further help from blind Ulthwe' farseer to refine it further.

Specifically, creating a godform to fight the enemy influence during chaos incursions.
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>>5008451
We can always ask Ghuonzi where the dai monk ghost fragments are and put these new souls there.
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>>5008435
>Khornite urging Lieren to give in and let lose the fury of "the Ogre"
> Laughing monster noises followed by incoherent screaming
>Followed by roaring laughter mixed with quite giggles from a delighted Malal who just got himself a champion
>the Khornite then spends the next few millennia as a stress ball next to the skull throne.
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>>5008531
Malal must be laughing his ass off. His champion even hates his patron AND successfully fights him off, and not just literally either but also metaphysically and conceptually thus embodying the utter self destructive nature of chaos AND it's TRUE end. Harmony.

Perfect. Its why none of the other champions worked out. They got stuck with the self destruction part and self destructed.

They turned the enemy against themselves but also turned against themselves.(IE: Screwed themselves) thus no longer Malal's "End of Chaos" but "The creation/propagation of Chaos during the loss of a pillar".

Now one could argue that oblivion/Entropy is the end of all things. That is true. But Chaos ends only when an ORDER begins. And Order requires a Harmony between parts before a standard/pattern emerges.
And that comes along far more often than outright Oblivion.

TLDR: Malal exists to end chaos. The end of chaos is not oblivion but Harmony/ Malal's death will be the birth of Harmony.

Leiren is Malal's ultimate end.
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>>5008451
That's not how it works. You can just "filter" souls through Kanzeon because shes not a goddess.

>>5008457
But do all souls really need or want to be reincarnated liked the dai monks?
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>>5008613
It's reincarnation, fading away or being daemon snack.
With the imperial faith there's some kind of afterlife giving the saints, and some planets seem to have protective spirits, but not everyone gets lucky.
Anyway, the dai souls were partially consumed and the ghosts are fragments that can't be reincarnated by themselves, the idea was to ask Guonzhi where they are hiding and put those souls there, they already been tortured enough.
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>>5008619
Ah, okay. That sounds ideal. I was adamant that putting psyker stuff and souls through Kanzeon would be a bad idea for everyone part, but asking grandpa wizard sounds like a plan.
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>>5008625
Well, the option to try to fuse the fragments into a new soul and shove it into a body is always there. No promises if it would work or not.
But I want to know more about it the souls before we try to do something, maybe there are better ways.
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Why not allow those soul fragments that have a lingering desire to be born anew to be reincarnated? As machine spirits. PROTECT DA MACHINES FROM DEH CHAOS!

Or as FFX Aeons?
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>>5008435
The idea that the Ogre is still intrinsically Lieren, and hence draws all it's wrath and rage from harm done to the innocents and children of the galaxy makes me so amused.

His loyalist allies may be really fucking terrified of him, but the enemy can't really tempt him from his path, being a being of indominable will.

Also, supporting >>5008131
Snip the strands of the leech soul, sheer them free.
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>>5008131
Support
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>>5008131
Supporting
Would be rather poetic
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>>5008679
> His loyalist allies may be really fucking terrified of him, but the enemy can't really tempt him from his path, being a being of indomitable will.
I imagine that the terrible Mein of Wrath, the Ogre Unshackled, is such a rare occurrence that very few are aware there even is such a thing. It's like an awful monstrous shadow contained by the gentle nurturing light of a luminous star, and limited are those who can see it beyond the nearly-blinding radiance.
> inb4 there's a reason Lieren himself never encounters Craftworld Eldar psyker in person

Most of the Primarchs are known to have incredibly powerful emotions, include passion (and therefore anger), which makes sense since they were made to be BIGGER AND BETTER than base humanity in every way. Astartes are similar. But actually understanding that this..malevolent *thing*..is an inseparable part of their own flesh and blood? The only ones that might be able to make sense of that are likely to be Magnus, Big E himself and maybe one of the 'savage' Primarchs. Maybe Jaghatai, he had a few philosophical moments himself. Lotta people just forget he wasn't all WAR and SPEED.
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>>5008131
>>Use what little remains of your stolen essence in his stomach, the Crane Style martial arts, and you're knowledge of Wuxing to finally sever his connection to all the souls he's stolen.
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>>5008796
Long-Jia culture loves rhymes, so it works.
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>>5008754
It would be rare no doubt.
But when it blows, and it would blow eventually during the heresy EVERYONE would see it.

Perhaps isstvan dropsite massacre. But I'm not sure how that would go, when we see the truth of shit. Eh, doesn't really matter.
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>>5008131
+1
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>>5008834
That's been brought up before, in prior threads. It would honestly depend a lot on how events proceed, how the other Primarchs develop, etc. Lieren has already upset the flow of events from canon by releasing/restoring Malal and also by revealing the truth of the Warp Gods to Magnus, who canonically kept in the dark by Tzeentch's designs until he was embittered by the attack on Prospero by Russ and desperate enough to surrender himself in exchange for saving his sons from the Flesh Change.

I can see Lieren being sent away from the other Primarchs and Legions, but only if Horus as Warmaster is converted to the service of Chaos. Again, that will heavily depend on whether or not the upset Lieren's caused in the Warp doesn't change the lives of other Primarchs in a butterfly effect.

Angron might break loose before they can implant the Nails and lead a revolution like Super Spartacus. Mortarion might escape from his evil witch-lord master/father to live with and protect innocent peasants of Barbarus. Whole facets of the Emperor's sons could be changed, but we won't know until Malal shows us more or until Lieren meets them in person.

> Meta Knowledge doesn't mean shit if none of it happens
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>>5008907
Just as Magnus, Angron, Fulgrim, and the other brothers might be saved from Chaos in this timeline, the reverse could be said about our other siblings. The others may fall victim to chaos, or maybe not. Fingers crossed we btfo Chaos enough that they can't.

7 threads away from being the last thread on the board.
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Calling the vote now. I've archived this thread, and will link the new one here as I always do.

just collapse the floor with a solid stomp while he's focused on casting spells, he may have grown to your and Kanzeon's size, but besides his mutations, his internal anatomy remains that of a baseline man. His heart would not be able to endure the shock of a sudden fall:4
-jump down after him: 1

Detonate" What little remains of your stolen essence in his stomach, and perform one of the Wardens of Mysteries sealing techniques as he is very soul is unraveled:6

Distract him with a showy display with your Guandao, giving Kanzeon the chance to line up a shot. After all, no one can survive being shot with searing hot plasma: 1

Use the carp style's dance, dodge his panicked spells and hexes, and then render him defenseless with the Crane Style.:1

Use what little remains of your stolen essence in his stomach, the Crane Style martial arts, and you're knowledge of Wuxing to finally severe his connection to all the souls he's stolen.: 13

Total votes:21

So the write in combination strike to sever the remaining souls from Kamal Kanan wins

Writing now.

>>5008796
lol
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>>5008920
I think that's technically what the alternate Dornian/Roubouttian Heresy's are all about.

I remember part of the Girlyman heresy write up was that Magnus and the Thousand Sons accidentally made a newborn goddess of just vengeance named Veritas, and that Vulkan literally becomes a Black Dragon whose end goal is true godhood.

>>5008925
WHOOO!
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>>5008985

New thread



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