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Your name is Kima Dulioan. You are a Jaxtian girl who lives on Jaxt- your species home planet. Your family is very important, which is one of the reasons why you live on this planet instead of all the different moons, planets, and starships all over the galactic empire you belong to- the Hegemony.

They say your gene score is equal to a Supreme Ruler- the highest position in your entire society. The king, basically. He controls and rules everything. They say you have the profile of a Supreme- but you're a girl. No girl ever has or ever will be a Supreme Ruler.

https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=Supreme+Space

You don't really know or care much about that though- You like reading, drawing, and playing outside with your friends. Your favorite food is green squash- and your favorite animal are nut thieves- so playful and affectionate! You have one as your pet. You are nine years old.
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Life is good. Every day, after some family time and your studies, you get to go outside and explore! Natural spaces and trees for climbing- some days you stay outside all day until the sun comes down. This is one of the perks of being the child of such important people; you also get a first class education, and can study basically anything you want, though your performance and personal tutors always demand excellence. Sometimes, you like to just relax and be a kid. You have house servants and all kinds of luxurious foods and electronics... though your parents make you do a lot of your own chores to teach you “discipline” and will punish you if you lord this status over the other kids you meet- to prevent you from being spoiled. Still- life is basically perfect.

Of course, things change. You vaguely knew that you weren't going to be a kid forever, and one morning when you woke up with your first period on your bedsheets, you knew it was one such change. You told your parents about it, and they were instantly and totally supportive.

“We're here for you, sweetheart! This is a big day for you.” Your mother would say- your father smiling and nodding.

”Of course- it means you're becoming a woman. Very important!”

Beyond the initial shock when you woke up, you didn't really think it was that big of a deal. Looking at your gentle and so very supportive father- you wonder if he really is that much older then your mother. You are told that young girls are married to older men as it is best for “optimal fertility”; but he really doesn't look any older then she does. It's a Dulioan thing.

”First thing tomorrow- your mother is taking you to the Fertility Doctor.”

”But Dad, don't we already have a doctor?”

”Ahh, yes my darling clever child- but this is a very special doctor. Just for girls. You will see.”
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The doctor is very polite to you. He's an older Indigo- but then again, everyone seems very polite once they know who your father is.

“Hello, Kima. Today is a very special day. You are now becoming a female of reproductive age. This is a big honor, but also responsibility. You need to swear an oath. This oath is something that every woman swears once they become fertile for the first time. It is very serious, you have to really mean it.”

“He's right, honey. I swore it too.” Your mother says, a supportive hand on your shoulder.

“Now, please raise your right hand- and repeat after me.”

“I, your name, solemnly swear.”
“I, Kima Dulioan, solemnly swear.”
“To uphold the dignity of the Jaxtian race.”
“To uphold the dignity of the Jaxtian race.”
”To keep my body clean, as it does not belong to me.”
“To keep my body clean, as it does not belong to me.”
“For my womb to be used, only when I am told.”
“For my womb to be used, only when I am told.”
“And for my love to be given, only to the worthy.”
“And for my love to be given, only to the worthy.”
“I am Woman, and I will serve Man. Now, and forever.”
“I am Woman, and I will serve Man. Now, and...”

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>>5250568
>forever :(
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>>5250568
>...forever. :/
>(quietly) what the actual fuck?
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>>5250568
>forever...
Is this present day Jaxt?
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>>5250592
+1
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>Forever
Don't be stupid, and don't think this is some kind of bad thing when compared to what the men get. Literally NO ONE in the Hegemony has a body that belongs to them - the men just happen to be used for different things.

Are you going to forget the sheer amount of times we've killed a monke man for something like questioning the leader? Supreme candidates are expected to learn literally everything, including KNIFE FIGHTING.

Don't try to start something stupid. Though it'd be good to start marrying girls to men in their age, to avoid more psychological problems - the older the parents, the more chance the hcild will come out schizophrenic.

DON'T BE STUPID AND THINK WE'LL GET ANYWHERE GOOD BY DELETING OUR FAMILIAL STRUCTURE.
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>>5250592
Absolute cringe, tell me how this is any worse than being an tin soldier like those dumb hazaar alphas who get turned into space marine monstrosities, or being an vetuck in an planet that's not even yours anymore

You can say it sounds creepy, and pairing them with older men is stupid due to the psychological effects it gives, but in all honesty, everyone's got it fuckin' though, and if you want to make it better, you're not going to do it by acting like it's the worst thing in the world.
>oh noes i have to be a mother, woe is me

And this girl seems smart enough to know that's far from fucked up when you consider what our society thinks is fine and dandy.
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>>5250592
+1
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>>5250623
she’s a kid, it’s a little bit fucked
I get the entire point of the quest, but a kid should be weirded out by this.
You can uphold the status quo without a kid thinking its completely 100% fine.
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>>5250626
>she’s a kid, it’s a little bit fucked
Don't monkes have higher life cycles though? It sounds fucked to us because a nine year old is a child, but didn't monkes use to live to like 60 before medical advances? Has our growth cycle even changed?

Either way, it's obviously going to lead to her possibly doing more, which is schtupid. It's fucked up, yes, but so is death by torture, and everyone in jaxtian society thinks that's completely normal - it's dumb to follow only human morals.

The way i see it, it is fully possible to improve certain things without going down a dark path. There's a big difference between changing specific things and having some kind of emancipation movement, which will end horrible.

There is literally nothing wrong with only having male supreme rulers. Literally how many times already did we need our rulers to do something dangerous or get in combat? THERE'S LITERALLY AN STYLE OF CLOTHING DEDICATED TO SUPREMES WHO MURDERED THEIR PREDECESSORS.

I have no issues with stuff like female scientists, but male-only supreme rulers is an absolutely reasonable choice.
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>>5250618
+1
We really need to try avoiding anything that creates psychotic children, our society is full of them. We need more talacents and less ingars
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Maybe I'm just stating the obvious but Kima is probably Hwat's daughter, same family name, Supreme Ruler tier gene score, he's dressed in red and we know that he became more responsible after the birth of his child (so no mention of their gender) and while he looks a little younger (not greyer blue spot on the face) the sidequest could be set in the past.
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>>5250642
Fair point, so i'm guessing we're basically choosing her "backstory"

Personally, i'd like for her to get involved in psychological stuff. I know it's repetitive, but harambe knows we need to help our society in that side of things. Not in an political sense, mind you, but more so in helping to avoid more ingars and agoris
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>>5250642
Speaking of hwat, you think he'd be a good 'temporary ruler' to take care of jaxt while the actual supreme is in the reconquista crusade?
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>>5250651
See >>5250572
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>>5250653
Well, all that's left is the 'will he be good' question
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>>5250634
I never said anything about female supremes, or even an emancipation movement. I just said a kid ought to be weirded out by the idea that her body is essentially owned by a faceless monkey empire. I mean, putting yourself in the shoes of the character and all that, a mile in their moccasins (or monkey jumpsuits) if you will
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>>5250660
Well, but that's the thing, why would she find it weird if that's how their culture has gone for so long? Someone who was born in such a culture and raiesd in it wouldn't fit it weird, they'd find it completely normal - especially one who had an happy childhood with no real issues, like her.
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>>5250664
Not necessarily. Plenty of people grow up in a comfortable Western existence and still become politically active reformers IRL, no?

>>5250650
I strongly support guiding someone towards improving Jaxtian mental health programs.
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>>5250692
>lenty of people grow up in a comfortable Western existence and still become politically active reformers IRL, no?
Yes, when they're young adults. She's obviously not a child, but she hasn't been exactly much 'experienced' with politics - the only reason we have teenagers even interested in such things on earth is because our society exposes them to tremendous amounts of politics from an early age, much of it conflicting. Kima, on the other hand, seems to still be pretty sheltered, in no small part becasue, as they're not a democracy, the hegemony has WAY less political argumentation - even state philosophers have very limited job.

It really makes no sense for her to not be totally okay and normal with this. It would have been implanted in her since her birth - that's how society works. Children will nearly always follow the beliefs of their parents until they become full fledged adults with their own experiences.
>I strongly support guiding someone towards improving Jaxtian mental health programs.
That i agree
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>>5250568
>"Actually Doctor I have a question about this oath, based on recent changes into meritocratic selection for Supreme Ruler which ignores the patriarchal standards of previous generations and my high tier genetics making me a possible candidate. Does this oath not then imply if that if I were selected for such a lofty position I would still be subservient to men?"
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>>5250799
..Why in the everloving fuck would it change anything? You realize that the 'meritocratic changes' were literally only a removal of the genetic caste, right?

It literally says so. Aliens still can't become supreme. If anything, her high tier genetics are absolutely meaningless now that there are no more genetic caste

This is some 'my 3 year old son' tier stuff
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>>5250806
Clearly, you did not read the last thread and don't understand what the reform actually did. Bananas has explicitly implied that this reform opens the door to female candidates as it no longer puts male genetics as superior. Having Supreme tier genetics, however, does instead show us she is a genius with the potential to run the Hegemony. She is also 9 years old with the most expensive education in the world, I'm sure she would understand such concepts.
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>>5250818
>Clearly, you did not read the last thread and don't understand what the reform actually did.
Yes i did, because i actually know what it meant. It's specifically supposed to remove the genetic caste system away. The idea that it suddenly turns into some sort of equalitarian state is retarded. We still don't allow aliens or women to take the position of supreme leader - it even says so on the opening.
>Having Supreme tier genetics, however, does instead show us she is a genius with the potential to run the Hegemony.
Not in a million fucking years. Supreme leaders will always benefit from being physically stronger, as shown with Eoba getting saved in the worm monster fight by his knife autism.
>She is also 9 years old with the most expensive education in the world, I'm sure she would understand such concepts.
She's not an supreme candidate. Why did you get it in your head that she did? She has not. She has high genetics, yes, but she doesn't get supreme candidate education - if she wasn't, she wouldn't be spending her time playing with friends, she'd be learning how to kill with a knife like the other candidates.

It's stupid, retarded, and has no basis other than "i agree with this politically"
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>>5250568
>for ever...
(...so long as they are deserving of it.)
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>>5250833
Under the previous system, this was true but not under the new system. We have made explicit changes to our selection process that would allow for female candidates but whatever dude make this about IRL politics. Allowing females to be candidates will increase our pool of talent for Supreme Ruler and overall be a beneficial thing. Supreme tier genetics means supreme tier intelligence and education to match, the Hegemony educates females just as well as males.
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>>5250833
Not him but I think that making her outwardly agree while having some reservations and independence could be good, I doubt that she could become a Supreme Ruler but she may be a Theodora to our Justinian, the next Supreme Ruler.
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>>5250568
>forever
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>>5250845
Maybe, but 'what the fuck' certainly isn't 'reservations', more like 'abject disgust', and we won't get anywhere

If the goal was to make sure she'd eventually do something good, it would be later when she was grown, not by making her be disgusted about our culture
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>>5250818
>explicitly implied
I'm okay with a feminist tide and even a female supreme, but "explicit" and "implicit" are antonyms.

>>5250833
Eoba and Agori put themselves in situations where physical conflict was likely or inevitable on purpose. Most of our Supremes would have lost to the Worm in hand-to-hand combat, including pretty-much-universally-beloved ones like Kinja and Talacent. This didn't make them worse rulers.
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>>5250836
I suppose that's the meaning of "only to the worthy" part, yeah? Scum don't get wives.
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>>5250853
>Eoba and Agori put themselves in situations where physical conflict was likely or inevitable on purpose
Eoba's meeting with the worm was exactly a choice. Bananas himself that if whether we bowed or not would determine how idealistic it was
>This didn't make them worse rulers.
No, but it is useful, and as a SUPREME whose whole thing is being THE BEST, there is no reason to start picking weaker choices solely because you want to push politics that you agree with
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>>5250868
wasn't*
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>>5250868
>here is no reason to start picking weaker choices solely because you want to push politics that you agree with

We picked a two-tailed late-bloomer for his big (potential) brain, over an Alpha, because we valued pragmatism and intellect over muscles and intuition in guiding the Hegemony. That was a philosophical, POLITICAL decision to choose a weaker candidate over a stronger one because we agreed more with the politics he represented: that intellectual rigor is more meritous in a leader than gut-instinct or physical might.

So may it be when/if we decide that having a wider pool of candidates (ie. the other 50% of the Jaxtian population currently excluded by default, females) is more important than limiting candidacy to optimal knife-fighters.
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>>5250879
>We picked a two-tailed late-bloomer for his big (potential) brain, over an Alpha,
Yes, because the alpha was specifically not even that bright. However, even while not being as strong as an alpha, female supremes will ALWAYS Have a physical disadvantage. There is literally no reason to have an female supreme rulers when there will always be plenty of other male rulers who will have the same level of intelligence without such a weakness

>So may it be when/if we decide that having a wider pool of candidates
Did you miss the part where we were SPECIFICALLY having problems with TOO MANY CANDIDATES? Again, our populations is in the HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS.

Finding a candidate will never be the problem -we have candidates up through our noses. So if the problem isn't finding SMART people, we also vet them for OTHER POINTS. Including physical weakness, or, like in the case of the alpha, psychological or mental weakness.

In the end, there is really no reason to start having female supremes. It will bring literally no benefit whatsoever - it's literally just "i want to have feminism in my monke quest"
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>>5250888
I think that the reason why women can't be Supreme Rulers is probably the oath, it's not comptatible with the "supreme must be supreme" principle of the rank.
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>>5250898
You're thinking of the chicken when you should be thinking about the egg. It's not just the oath, it's that supremes, as a whole, must be supreme. It doesn't mean that they have to be strong, but it means women will ALWAYS Be at a disadvantage.

In fact, imagine how risky an pregnant supreme leader would be - the interstellar emperor, completely weak. Monkeys aren't species with strong females like hyenas - the females are physically weaker than the males. Ultimately, if a supreme ruler was a female, they woudl either be one of those weird bitter cat aunt (no children or husband) or they would be ultimately subject to their husband, i.e not supreme

There is no benefit to having female supremes.
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>>5250888
There's plenty of reason to want female Supremes (or at least highly-placed females) as an option. If Jaxtian females do not have an inherently worse mind, we are currently sitting on an untapped resource, and squandering it.

>but we'll have too many candidates again!

Good thing the new meritocratic system is better at sifting through huge swathes of a growing population.

>but we need martial merit as a method to winnow out inferior candidates in the event of too many smart monkes!

Then keep that qualifier in. Either it will rule out females anyway, or one day we'll have a female so good in other regards that we'll be glad that we didn't immediately disqualify her. Maybe that's even Kima.

Maybe we won't, but the fact that Jaxtian women are striving for greater positions will still give us a lot of ambitious, hard-working candidates for other positions, with brilliant ideas and worthwhile contributions, who would otherwise have just mumbled their oath and gone home to quietly cope.
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>>5250905
>If Jaxtian females do not have an inherently worse mind, we are currently sitting on an untapped resource, and squandering it.
No, we're just not trying to ruin our social structure.
>Good thing the new meritocratic system is better at sifting through huge swathes of a growing population.
So we'll just add double the number for absolutely no reason?
>Then keep that qualifier in.
So what, we start teaching women knife fighting too? Great idea moron, let's teach skills that will be completely useless to them, they have a weakness in, and will only ever bear fruit in an one in a trillion chance.
>Maybe we won't, but the fact that Jaxtian women are striving for greater positions will still give us a lot of ambitious, hard-working candidates for other positions,
No it won't, because the more that we give jaxtian women more power, the more they'll be working, and the more they're working, the less they're spending time at home raising their children

Why the fuck do people want to turn jaxt EVEN MORE DYSFUNCTIONAL? We're already an gatacca hellhole, we don't need to destroy the family structure too
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>>5250913
>So we'll just add double the number for absolutely no reason?
To encourage the (seemingly equally intelligent?) other 50% of our population to do more for the Hegemony, potentially doubling productivity and amping up innovation.

> Great idea moron, let's teach skills that will be completely useless to the
Knife-fighting is useless to almost everyone in a space-age empire that barely even fights wars, and does so almost exclusively with guns, ships, energy fields, and data prions.

>No it won't, because the more that we give jaxtian women more power, the more they'll be working, and the more they're working, the less they're spending time at home raising their children
Good thing we have a command economy, then, where we can ensure we don't require two full-time workers to supply a household, meaning families can either divvy up caregiver duties between two parents or continue to have one partner (be in male or female) stay at home full-time without the hazards of single-working-parent households in real life.
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>>5250921
>To encourage the (seemingly equally intelligent?) other 50% of our population to do more for the Hegemony, potentially doubling productivity and amping up innovation.
Yeah, that'll work out fine, just get the women to go spend all their time doing labour in the mines. I'm not saying keep them all in the kitchen, i'm saying "trying to make them work equally is stupid and will only lead to worse things"
>Knife-fighting is useless to almost everyone in a space-age empire that barely even fights wars
Except that the supreme realer CAN use knife-fighting. It is stupid to think that it it's useless when it's already saved the lives of multiple supremes - eoba himself only managed to live by killing agori, and later, the alien with his own hands
>where we can ensure we don't require two full-time workers to supply a household
That's not how it works. If you start giving them "equal rights", that means they're going to have the same workloads, which means they'll invariably spend less time with their children
>or continue to have one partner (be in male or female)
Or, and hear me out, we let the people who LITERALLY HAVE THE BIOLOGICAL PURPOSE OF RAISING CHILDREN TO RAISE CHILDREN
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>>5250935
>just get the women to go spend all their time doing labour in the mines
>"trying to make them work equally is stupid and will only lead to worse things"
Good thing that's not what I'm advocating then, I guess? Go me!

>Except that the supreme realer CAN use knife-fighting
But usually doesn't have to, and most of the Supremes we've picked would probably be middling at best as knife-fighters compared to genetically-similar rank-and-file Jaxtians.

>That's not how it works. If you start giving them "equal rights", that means they're going to have the same workloads, which means they'll invariably spend less time with their children
Nobody has rights in the Hegemony, and "how it works" is however we say it does... Because it's a command economy where nobody has intrinsic, inalienable rights.

>Or, and hear me out, we let the people who LITERALLY HAVE THE BIOLOGICAL PURPOSE OF RAISING CHILDREN TO RAISE CHILDREN
*biological purpose of bearing young
We actually know relatively little about how much time and energy the average Jaxtian male spends on child-rearing, or what their biological and psychological prerogatives across Jaxtian history have been in that regard.

NOW who's bringing real-life politics into it? They're fictional aliens. Let's assess their actual abilities and aptitudes dispassionately before going "REEE, don't bring feminism into my game where the QM is actually clearly trying to encourage a discussion of this very subject!"

>there is no benefit to female Supremes
We don'tknow that, and I've presented reasons there may be

> it's literally just "i want to have feminism in my monke quest"
Take it up with QM who (again) clearly brought up this very quandary because there are upsides and downsides to both and he VERY CLEARLY wants us to discuss it

tl;dr: I'm not foisting some feminist agenda on a story ill-suited to it, QM is literally putting us in the shoes of a young woman and asking us to think about how we would want society to be structured if we were her.
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>>5250949
>Good thing that's not what I'm advocating then, I guess?
It's what'll happen.
>But usually doesn't have to
But there are situations where they neeed to, and when that happens, the last thing you need is a pregnant woman.
>Nobody has rights in the Hegemony, and "how it works" is however we say it does
Except, if you start making it so women have as many privileges as male jaxtians - which is what happens if they can, for example, become supreme leaders, then they're going to also be working in positions that require full-time working. You do know that the hegemony still has money, right? This isn't an pure RTS society where people are paid in grain and milk
>*biological purpose of bearing young
And raising children. That's their purpose. They're weaker because they stay at home and raise children while the men are out - and they ARE weaker. That's not an argument - even yuan said it.
>We actually know relatively little about how much time and energy the average Jaxtian male spends on child-rearing
There is literally nothing that has shown jaxtians to have anything but the normal. Parenting, when it's been shown, hasn't been shown with any real differences from what we have.
>We don'tknow that, and I've presented reasons there may be
And i said why those reasons are pointless
>Take it up with QM who (again) clearly brought up this very quandary because there are upsides and downsides to both and he VERY CLEARLY wants us to discuss it
There's a difference between "discuss fictional politics" and "let's push a politic that was done in human countries because i agree with it" as opposed to assessing what makes sense for the story
>QM is literally putting us in the shoes of a young woman and asking us to think about how we would want society to be structured if we were her.
Yes, and as i've said before, there is literally noreason for her to suddenly turn into an feminist who thinks the oath is disgusting and patriarchy is bad when IT'S LITERALLY AN PRECEPT OF THEIR CULTURE
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>>5250960
>Yes, and as i've said before, there is literally noreason for her to suddenly turn into an feminist who thinks the oath is disgusting and patriarchy is bad when IT'S LITERALLY AN PRECEPT OF THEIR CULTURE

I guess there was no reason for Aumunu to object to his station, since it was literally a precept of his culture, either. It's almost like... Jaxtians are individuals, with their own personalities and drives, and not every single one is in lockstep with their society's current norms at all times? And sometimes, their social rebellions have proven beneficial to the society as a whole, and to them individually?

>There's a difference between "discuss fictional politics" and "let's push a politic that was done in human countries because i agree with it" as opposed to assessing what makes sense for the story

Then it's again quite a good thing that I am doing stuff like saying "let's wait to assess what biological and psychological imperatives are for Jaxtians, rather than humans" and "let's use the unique political and economic circumstances of the Hegemony to extract ultimate utility from the female Jaxtians without necessarily repeating human history and pitfalls of feminism on Earth", right? You're the one going "NOPE NOPE NOPE, let's not even argue it, physical strength number one, women are for babies, JUST STOP BEING A FEMINIST"


Picture this:
>you are a gifted young man, everyone says so
>they even say you're as good as the leader of your entire society in terms of raw potential
>you are given great freedom and opportunity
>you like to run and play with your friends, and learn a lot, always striving to be the very best at everything you do
Then...
>you get your first wet dream
>your parents take you to see a special doctor for boners
>he makes you pledge to relinquish physical, mental, and reproductive autonomy, unlike all your female friends, because men and their balls are just for pleasing and benefiting ladies

Now, I get that that's some people's kink, but for most people, I bet they'd have an expression like pic related, and I bet they'd have some misgivings.
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>>5250977
forgot pic
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I like how it's already devolved into autism
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>>5250981
It's fitting I guess, I don't really understand you would sperg about fictional monke gender roles however. I feel really sorry for the QM
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>>5250977
>I guess there was no reason for Aumunu to object to his station, since it was literally a precept of his culture, either.
That is a different scenario, you dumbass. Objecting to a job is completely different from a CHILD suddenly developing an completely different ideology from nowhere for absolutely no reason
>Then it's again quite a good thing that I am doing stuff like saying "let's wait to assess what biological and psychological imperatives are for Jaxtians, rather than humans"
>Except there is literally nothing that has shown jaxtians to have different parenthood. If it was something so major, don't you think it would have appeared in the SEVEN threads we've had, at least ONCE?
>"let's use the unique political and economic circumstances of the Hegemony to extract ultimate utility from the female Jaxtians without necessarily repeating human history and pitfalls of feminism on Earth"
Except it literally doesn't make sense. THINK of it for a while. If women start working full time, there is no option that doesn't leave it worse.

CASE 1: THEY ARE TREATED THE SAME AS THEIR HUSBANDS, WORK AT THE SAME TIME
>Children has to spend half of day without any parent to watch over
>Children are thus getting it worse
CASE 2: THEY ARE TREATED THE SAME AS THEIR HUSBANDS, DIFFERENT SHIFTS AS THEIR HUSBANDS
>You now have a ton of couples who basically spend the entire day away from each other, only seeing the other in small time gaps when one of them is going to be dead tired
CASE 3: THEY AREN'T TREATED THE SAME AS THEIR HUSBAND
>Defeats the point of 'double work' while also not even changing anything from what we currently have (female jaxtians DO have jobs)
CASE 4: THEY WORK FULL TIME, HUSBANDS STAY AT HOME
At which case you're back where we started, except worse because you inverted the roles.
>I bet they'd have an expression like pic related, and I bet they'd have some misgivings.
I'd say it isn't much better
The Oath, while creepy, is hardly any different - or worse than what the men have. NO ONE in the hegemony has physical, mental or reproductive autonomy. We can - and do - tell men they will NEVER have children because they're too ugly or weak.

In fact - Women have MORE reproductive autonomy than men because they can have Indigo Children even when below the genetic cutoff line, while men are just fucked.
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>>5250986
>make thread about controversial theme
>it has controversial discussions
I mean, i don't know what you expected
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>>5251003
>CASE 5: The parent who is less useful to the Hegemony or better-suited to child-rearing stays home on a case-by-case basis, and women who are more useful in other roles than as child-rearers just do that instead
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>>5251009
>The parent who is less useful to the Hegemony
Yes, let's decide who raises children based on how much profit they can make, great idea dumbass
>or better-suited to child-rearing stays home
That'd be the woman
>on a case-by-case basis
Ah yes, let's judge 500 BILLION PEOPLE to see who gets to play house spouse and who works on the tritium mines. Totally a good way to spend our time.
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Fucking hell. It's only the opening post and the autists are out already.
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>>5251013
>profit
Societal utility. We already decide who can have children based on societal utility. This is just expanding the calculus of raw utility to include male and female monkes alike rather than hewing to a tradition for continuity's sake without even investigating if it was established for perfectly-rational reasons. You know, like when we reevaluated gene-scores?

>That'd be the woman
Not true for all women in real life, and we have no way of knowing if it is true for all blue space monkes in this fictional setting

>Ah yes, let's judge 500 BILLION PEOPLE to see who gets to play house spouse and who works on the tritium mines. Totally a good way to spend our time.
We literally already do that using futuristic super-AIs, my strange compatriot. Remember we're in a sci-fi quest, not real life?

A quest where, by the way...
>>5250583
>>5250592
>>5250605
>>5250626
>>5250799
>>5250836
all these votes are for some degree of discomfort with this..
>>5250604
>>5250618
>>5250636
>>5250847
and fewer votes are in favour of unequivocal acceptance of the status quo.

So I guess it's increasingly looking like we'll get to see how it goes! :)
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>>5251028
*as long as they are deserving, i'm changing from my old vote to >>5250836
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>>5250592
+1
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>>5250592
>“I am Woman, and I will serve Man. Now, and...”
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> Anonymous (ID: Ee85V0FK) 05/01/22(Sun)17:17:35 No.5250583▶>>5251018
>>>5250568
+1
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>>5251093
The autism is so strong with this sidequest, it even glitched a bot.
Does anyone have the Chinese Copypasta or JIDF infografics?
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>>5251096
Yeah, that's a bot. It cant be just a mistake because a mistake would require someone to have copied all this and then clicked "post"

How many of those (you)s are bots, i wonder
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>>5251096
Pretty sure that anon just highlighted a big chunk of the one post by accident before clicking the reply window open. It automatically copies qnd pastes it into the window when you do that and, if they are a filthy phoneposter like me they may not even notice it until the post is up.
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>>5251122
If it was it wouldn't have copied the whole thing, only test, i tried it right now on me phone
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>>5251124
only text*

It would have only copied the post test, not the time. That is the work of a bot.
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>>5251127
Oh, huh, you're right. Weird. Why is a bot even fucking around on /qst/?
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>>5251130
Jews probably
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>>5251130
Because someone REALLY wants their vote to win, but they dont own multiple phones to samefag normally

Basically, they're trying to rig the votes for that option
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>>5251131
>jews
Wrong, it's fucking Yuan'tul

He's samefagging so the feminist option wins and the jaxtian race is weakened
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>>5251132
Why wouldn't they just use a VPN?
Why would they bother, when our side was already winning the vote?
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>>5251138
Your side wasn't winning the vote - it was tied with just submitting 3 - 3. Other options, like "only the deserving" do not count towards your vote.

Ergo, they samefagged. >>5251066 might possibly be too, since no further replies
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>>5251140
And >>5250847, then, I presume?
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>>5251144
Why would a bot make a single vote and then stop and vote for the opposite thing? It's way too early for 1 post by id to matter, but when you have two identical votes in a row, one of which is objectively a bot, it's suspicious
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>>5251154
Oh yeah by the way it's still me i'm just a stupid mobilefag
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>>5251154
I'm just saying, it seems silly to discount a "1post id" vote without a subsequent vote for one side but not the other.

This is why I always make the first vote of any new thread in my quest an uncontroversial one, so if there's a sudden surge of suspicious votes on a subsequent vote, ti's easy to spot the dodgy characters
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>>5251160
It's not silly in context, dig? A single 1 ID is normal, an 1 ID followed by an exactly similar bot glitch is not. That'd suspicious, right?
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>>5251163
Holy fuck why does it keep changing i haven't even moved
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>>5251163
Not necessarily, in a popular or high-traffic thread. Ideally, though, both the 1post id folks would come back to verify their votes with a followup.
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>Accusing people of samefagging already

Jesus christ the autistic infighting is going to be insane. I'm excited.
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>>5250568
>Forever, so long as they are deserving of it.

I like to think that she has a bit of spunk in her. Hwat, ever the chill monke, would probably let it slide as a bit of childish fun, but I imagine Kima would take the deserving part seriously.

Also, sorry this has turned into a spergfest Bananas, the autism is off the charts for a kid side plot.
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>>5251168
Look at >>5251093 and tell me it's not a bot
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>>5251173
Yeah, that post is +1'ing me and even I find it suspicious and weird.
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>>5251171
BASED

Cool monkeys get cool monkey wives. Qet was a faggot and didn't like tomboys - let's fix that wrong.
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>>5251178
Vul*

Apologies to Qet. It was Vul who cheated.
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>>5251178
>>5251183
Clearly that’s what led to his downfall. Tomboy Supremacy for life!
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>>5251189
Unironically

Tomboys are perfect and monke society would improve immensely if tomboyism became the ideal as opposed to that Jezebel who mathematically planned her makeup for vul

Maybe Kima can make that happen.
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>>5251193
That Jezebel is Talacent's mom, though, and monke(and Blue Hazaar) society owes her a debt of gratitude.
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>>5251196
Talacent was an extreme exception. He was an normal guy in a sea of schizos. He became good despite of it, not because.
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>>5251208
True enough, but if Raza hadn't seduced Vul, or Vul hadn't gone for it, his legacy would have died aboard the Cirrus and we never would have got Talacent at all.
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>>5251213
Talacent was cool, but if he wasn't alive we'd have gotten EOBA SUPREME, and imagine how fucking cool that would have been
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>>5251222
>complaining about crazy Supremes
>wanting Eoba I to be Supreme
Pick one. He was based, but also a total goddamn loon.
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>>5251222
>>5251251
Imagine what kind of athletic monke we could’ve had had we prioritized Vul’s tomboy waifu, shit would’ve been lit.
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>>5251140
Eh? I don't stick around for discussions since I'm busy with other stuff, man. I personally think that the oath is a little bit fucked up and that someone may have issues with it.

I know the hegemony has done far worse but I'm making choices based on what the girl might be feeling, not out of meta "I don't want another sociopath" thing.
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>>5251279
We DID prioritize her. We married Vul to her. That prioritization was what got her killed with Vul Takar. If we wanted her and the child to live, we should have either saved the Cirrus OR married Raza and Vul might have cheated with her or with the blonde candidate... But alas, hindsight is 20/20. I'm happy with what we got.
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>>5251283
Haha, nice! Confirmed real-vote for getting maybe a Tomboy Supreme.
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>>5251286
Oh, totally, I have no issue with a Tomboy Supreme thing. I do find it a bit weird how we're already throwing accusations of samefagging (the obvious botpost notwithstanding)
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>>5251284
That clears it then. It's stills undeniably suspicious looking, however
>>5251286
No, If that option wins we get a feminist. Tomboy would be the "deserving" option
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>>5250618
+1

>>5251286
I would rather not end up with a feminist. Not when monkes have even greater sex physiological differences than humans given they have things like Alphas. Not to mention this female monke has the advantage of a Threemind AI who has just been unleashed to reorganize based on merit for promoting the hegemony and it lacks the biases of organics. So long as girl monke can out-compete her male rivals Threemind will favor her. Don't forget Alphas have just been upgraded to be even dumber and more aggressive. Putting them a lower enforcer caste strata compared to the historic past of higher ranks. So long as female monkes don't do anything retarded Threemind will back them.
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>>5251305
"Tomboy" does not mean "generic tomboy harem anime waifu who is still submissive to the male MC", if just means "a girl who does boyish things."

>>5251314
>So long as girl monke can out-compete her male rivals Threemind will favor her

How is that a bad thing? What you're literally saying is "Threemind, an AI we programmed to select Supreme candidates based on pure ability for the betterment of our Hegemony, will favour a candidate who outcompetes the other candidates, without being emotional or irrational about it. No shit, my dude, that is literally what we programmed it to do, in order to get that exact kind of result.
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>>5251144
>>5251154
Im not bot bro
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>>5251325
Sorry, but a feminist will NEVER be a tomboy. Tomboyism requires there to still be femininity
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>>5251343
It's true, and choosing abject disgust WILL prevent her from becoming a tomboy
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>>5251352
It’s why deserve is far superior to disgust, it’s more meritocratic and culturally in-tune rather than rebellious and anti-social. It’s why Tomboys are objectively superior to femnazis.

I, for one, welcome our Tomboy overlords!
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>>5251332
Mein Gott, the bots are becoming sapient!
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>>5251370
You're right, but people seem keen on making her into an unlikeable feminist with those votes
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>>5251386
In all honesty, it seems to be a running theme with anons voting for autism causing characters. I just want muh tomboy supremacy, why do they have to go all femnazi and fuck it all up?
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>>5251386
You're projecting so fucking hard. Imagine thinking "I'm a little disgusted at this weird old stranger talking about how I don't own my genitals" is radical third-wave feminism.
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>>5251415
Don’t want to focus on the autism, but when everyone in a society was raised as the State’s property, it’s a bit weird when anons choose to get politically disgusted over biological rights (privileges in Monke context) as a kid. Kids just want to play and have fun while doing their parents proud, the disgust (wtf) option is at best OOC until she’s older.
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>>5251444
This. It's dumb. Maybe in our NORMAL society it would be creepy - but in a society that says equality doesn't exist and rights are fake, it would be stupid and off-character
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>>5251444
But not exactly "a feminazi", is it?

>>5251454
picrel
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>>5251469
Your post is flawed because it relies on ideas that don't exist within the hegemony
>physical, mental and reproductive autonomy
Not a concept, not even for men. Especially not for men.
>men just for pleasing and benefitting ladies
Not the case for men and women because of pleasing. In the hegemony it's all about genetics and making capable children.

So again, it doesn't make any sense WHATSOEVER
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I'm gonna be honest, i voted for Deserving because it's the best choice

But i'm starting to feel like i should change it. It's got way too few votes and the "disgust" option seems like it'll only be best by a standard forever

And i really don't like the former. I want something constructive and logical, not ANOTHER character who'll spend their entire lifes trying to damage the hegemony and it's values
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>>5251469
Sort of is really. I mean, this is a fascist society based on the ideals of supremacy. It’s more likely for her disgust to become a literal femnazi than for her to suddenly gain the context of biological autonomy and individual rights. Plus, she’s a kid that wasn’t really disgusted by her first period, why would she suddenly develop a disgust over body property? It’s OOC at best.

>>5251497
Stand fast comrade, the fight for Tomboy Supremacy ain’t over yet!
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>>5251405
Me too. Gotta teach the Threemind about Tomboy supremacy.

>>5251497
That is why I voted for the default one. Hopefully it didn't screw us out of tomboy but at least she won't be a goddamn feminist trying to destroy the hegemony.
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>>5251526
Sadly, most people voted, and i don't want to wait just to have the votes be counted and see the thing win. I'd rather play it safe. I mean, i really want to, but if we get feminist version of yuan there'll never be another tomboy monke woman. By choosing this, we maintain the hope of a tomboy in the future

Changing >>5251031 to just a simple
>forever
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"...Forever."

The doctor instantly smiles and lightens up.

"Excellent! Now, we're going to do a few readings, internal temperature readings, that kind of thing. I'll be leaving, and your mother will be here with you or can wait outside, whichever makes you more comfortable. Don't worry, it'll be over in a flash..."

Ugh, the most embarrassing day of your life! Being fretted over like that is not something you want to happen again anytime soon! After the visit, your mother sees you in a slump and comes to comfort you... in her own way.

"Aww, what's wrong sweetheart? You gotta grow up some time."
"Well, maybe I don't WANT to grow up, if that what it is going to be like. What was that whole promise thing even about? It was so intense."
"Aww, don't worry, that's something EVERY woman has to go through. It's normal and a part of life!"
"But why?"
"It's about sex dear. It's something you don't understand yet."
"I know what sex is, Mom. I'm not a baby."
"I know that, sweetheart. But you don't fully understand the consequences. Sex invariably leads to children, and children lead to adults. Everyone and everything in the Hegemony comes from the people- which come from women. It's an investment in the future. Men naturally view us as the source of sex, dear, so it is something to be controlled and optimized for the greater good. You will see soon enough. Hey, why don't we go get some Danbo Yogurt, that ought to cheer you up!"
"...Ok."

Ever since that day, your world starts to change. Almost imperceptibly at first, but everything slowly changes. The clothing you wear changes a bit too. Your parents become a little more protective, your father especially.

”No more staying outside until it gets dark out without a chaperon! And why do you always insist on playing with the boys around here anyway? You need some female friends!”
”Do I have to stop playing with them? Even Radjo?”
”Radjo? You mean that little Alpha boy? Oh yeah- especially not him! He's the absolute worst! I don't ever want you to be alone with him ever again, understand?!”
”...”
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But of course, you get used to these things. You also get more adult responsibilities and freedom too, which is nice. You don't have as much time for fun and your friends anyway; and your tutors start to get serious. Pretty soon, you'll need to start focusing on a select field to spend the rest of your life doing! It's a big choice for your life!

You know that men in the Hegemony often spend their entire lives working on a single project or under a single department- masters of a specific subject or even a single piece of technology. That sounds kind of boring... At least you don't have to pick anything like that!

Your mother and father are also very interested in your studies too. You need to start picking what you're going to spend your youth getting really good at. They tell you how important neuroplasticity is- though you feel like you'll be a kid basically forever, you know deep down things can't be that way. The Hegemony and your unqiue position give you a lot of freedom here- you get to pick stuff you actually like!

You can think of three things you really like- and you know all of them can be high value careers and positions. What do you want to start seriously studying?

>Animals
>Gymnastics
>Medicine
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>>5251561
>>Animals
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>>5251480
>Especially not for men.
Do they make males pledge fealty and allegiance to females?

>because of pleasing
Creating offspring as desired and pledging allegiance pleases them, no? Don't quibble. It would likely weird out an exceptional child raised to think of herself as elite and privileged.
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>>5250568
>Forever, so long as they are deserving of it.

What can I say? I like plucky tomboys who challenge their men to be better.
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>>5251561
HELL FUCKING YEAH, TOMBOY TIME
>Gymnastics
Let's make fit monke women popular.

Also, while it may be a bit overbearing, her father is completely logical in not wanting her to spend time with an alpha - mean, yes, but remember Agori? Would you want YOUR daughter to spend her time with a boy who is fully capable of chimping out and LITERALLY TEARING HER ARMS OFF HER SOCKETS?
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>>5251561
>Gymnastics

Rip deserving I guess.
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>>5251565
>Do they make males pledge fealty and allegiance to females?
Maybe? We dont know - but we do know men don't have bodily, physical or emotional autonomy.
Creating offspring as desired and pledging allegiance pleases them, no?
The Hegemony doesn't care about how the men or women feel, only that they do
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>>5251561
>Medicine

Can't believe insecure beta coomers who want a submissive-yet-fit women determined the fate of the Hegemony.

Yes I can.
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>>5251574
Hey, the oath says that they have to only have children with "the worthy"? Let's just make her a tomboy
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>>5251579
Not submissive, plebeian, but still feminine. Tomboys still have femininity. And personally, i want her to help the mental state of the hegemony
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>>5251586
>Not submissive
>Okay with pledging eternal allegiance to men, with a womb which exists to be "used when told"
Pick. One.
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>>5251561
>Gymnastics
I suspect that she will get a position a lot beneath her (according to her abilities) in all cases though, think veterinarian or nurse instead of doctor and biologist although I could be wrong (we did have a female overseer candidate).
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>>5251561
>Gymnastics

>>5251574
What is 'worthy' anon? That leads a LOT up to interpretation. Especially when Threeminds acknowledged you as a Supreme Ruler candidate tier.
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>>5251587
>Woe is me i have to have children
And before you say "as you're told", that's literally just standard hegemony procedure. The government controls breeding down the pairings - does that make all jaxtians submissive?
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>>5251591
Yeah, we had an female scientist overseer candidate. Given how Overseer is literally the most powerful position after Supreme Ruler, i don't see how she'd be given an entry tier job with high skills

Gymnastics, after all, is not combat in any way shape or form.
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>>5251591
Female Overseer candidate happened after we changed the merit system. It also means Supreme candidates are also possible. So Threeminds is no longer forced to demote females, however, it DOES have to consider their reproductive needs and the like. We just don't know how the other monkes will react once Threeminds start pushing their promotions. We did receive hints when monkes were compared to that one aliens who had far less sexual dimorphism.

>>5251597
Unless threeminds considers how to create fitter female populace and better exemplary promoters. If threeminds pushes more female promotions its going to be forced to consider how to deal with their biological realities while maintaing peak family building and eugenic practices while utilizing them as a workforce. This is something Threeminds has been recently permitted to perform accidentally via the changed merit system.

What we don't know is HOW threeminds are going to consider this and go about it. Now it can access female manpower previously restricted to it and common classes as well. Except it's harder to adjust for females than male strata. The answer for threeminds is obvious. Fitter females are tougher and better able to keep up with males counterparts. If anons push for tomboys(especially as a Supreme) Threeminds will take this as a go ahead.
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>>5251561
>Animals
Xeno nutthief expert time.
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>>5251561
>Medicine
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>>5251587
Lol . You really think
The Hegemony = Maaaaales!
Sure the Supreme is a male but...
The AIs are AIs.
Everyone else can be either of the two genders.
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>>5251631
>>5251593

Did our totally-so-independent "tomboy" pledge allegiance to the government, the AI, the Supreme? Or to "man"?
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>>5251561

>Aminals
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>>5251561
>Gymnastics

I mean, I don't blame the dad for not trusting alphas, but damn man calm down.
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>>5251561
>>Animals
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>>5251635
Man. Which is hella interesting as "man" isn't any kind of ruling body. Makes me wonder if that is a pre-hegemony cultural artifact of tradition.
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>>5251160
>first vote
We didn't even have a vote here. There was no choice, just completing the vow. People believed there was a choice, purely from Autism.
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>>5251561
>Gymnastics
Love the amount of autism this quest gets.
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>>5251561
>>Medicine
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>tfw just caught up from the archives
Holy shit this quest is kino beyond kino

>>5251561
>Gymnastics
I don't have too strong of a personal preference, though. It's interesting to see Jaxtian society from the perspective of a normal citizen.
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>>5251597
She was a Xeno-integration candidate I think, not the science one?

Also, since we have in our own way just TAKEN A VOW...

>Medicine
>Gymnastics
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>>5251561
We’ve taken a vow as a Supreme Tier gi-WOMAN, now it’s time to double down!

>Animals
>Gymnastics

Time to investigate the nut-thieves up close in their natural habitats!
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>>5251561
>>Gymnastics
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Awww! Hwat Duolian looked so cute when she was nine years old!

Anyway,
>Gymnastics
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>>5251561
>>Gymnastics
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>>5251978
That's Kima. Hwat is her father.
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>>5220487
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>>5252010
>Kima turns put to be not a tomboy anime waifu, nor a feminist, but trans

HahahahaHAHAHAHA. Haaa.

Pretty sure that'd break the quest's base pretty hard, in a way women's rights alone didn't.
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>>5252010
Hmm... I'm sure he's just toying with our expectations like he has in the past but in any event, I'll give this thread a month or so for any potential shitstorms to die down.
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Gymnastics? You could do that. It's interesting to feel the limits of your body and how it can move- athletic ability is highly prized in the Hegemony for many reasons.

Your AI coach strongly recommends you read your history. According to the Hegemony's records; the ancient past of the degenerate democracy era were a terrible time for athletics. Most adults were severely out of shape, some even obese, while athletes were either extremely overpaid celebrities or underpaid disposable fodder for boxing and other dangerous sports. This is because in a capitalist society, athleticism is only prized as its ability to create capital, and not for itself.

The Hegemony has highly paid professional athletes. While some of what they do is related to competition and entertainment of course, much of what they do is to find the natural limits of Jaxtian biology as it relates to the genome. Full body medical and atomic scans are done of your body every few months for high detail simulations. They are also on call for emergency civilian response- strong bodies make for strong volunteers. Athletic record setting is also a goal in and of itself, with lifelong dividends of prize money paid for Jaxtians who set new records. Of course, athletes naturally fall of as they age, and so they transition into working as physical therapists, motion coaches, and have some of their very healthy tissues harvested for the various cloning and hormonal industries employed by the Fertility authority- especially for female athletes. Of course, ones ability to compete at the absolute highest levels is almost solely devoted to ones genetic potential; which you just so happen to have in spades.

Over the next four years, you devote yourself to studying your own body and its forms. Gymnastics is one of the greatest forms of athletic pursuit- girls don't have weightlifting divisions or contact sports, and this is the closest a female could get to a full body strengthening regime. Your coach, an old gymnast record setter herself, is especially hard on you so you can reach your fullest potential.

“Little grub! You have not yet wriggled out of your cocoon yet. In the next few years, your body will reach its absolute physical prime! When that time comes, you must be prepared, perfected in every way- never again will you have the chance to set the next record and to achieve such greatness! You must be ready!”
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*FWHIP!*

Completing a backwards flip, you land on the heels of your feet and balance with your tail, sticking the landing. It is only after you land do you realize there is someone not far from where you stopped... and it's a big man.

“Oh excuse me- oh my gosh! Radjo- is that you?”
“Oh! Kima, yeah, it's me! Wow you look so... different!”
”Oh- yeah, you too! Haha...”

He's looking at you so much differently now. It's something you never much experienced before- your drenched in sweat, wearing this tight gymnastic uniform. He's practically gawking over your body. It's weird but... kind of exciting, in a way. You can't believe how fast he's grown up too.

Your coach is over in a flash.

“What the- who is this?!”
”Oh- I- I am Radjo mam. I was told to bring back this equipment from the weightlifting room to-”
“A likely excuse! How old are ya boy?!”
”Thirteen, mam!”
“Thirteen!? I ain't never seen any boy, even an Alpha boy, that tall at Thirteen!”
”T-They say I'm a fast grower, mam!”
“Well boy, lemme give you some advice. If you want to stare at girls in compromising positions- go ask your AI for some porno on your damn phone. Git out!”
”N-no wait! I didn't do anything-! B-Bye Kima! See you later maybe?!-”
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One night, while on a rest day in your civilian clothes, you happen to pass by a room in your family's home with the low voice of your father and another man. You peek your head in the door a moment too late to realize who he is talking to.

“Someone is listening in, Hwat.”
”O-oh my gosh! I'm sorry to intrude!”

It's the Supreme Ruler! Cijan Anak! You know that your father and him are close friends, but you didn't expect this unannounced visit! The Supreme Ruler almost never goes somewhere unannounced; you've only ever seen him on digital displays or at a distance sometimes, in big parades. Even stranger, you see that your father is holding the imperial amulet- the symbol of the Supreme Ruler's power.

”Come on in Kima, come meet Cijan. Our great ruler- and the smartest bloke I know.”
”Greetings, Master.” You bow to him.
“Ahh, this is Kima, your daughter? I hear she is gearing up to break every female athletic record; you should be very proud.”
”I am proud.”
“You know, Kima, before you were born- your father was a real troublemaker. He refused to take life seriously; that all changed when his bundle of light came around.”
”Please, your grace, you're embarrassing me.”
”Father, why do you have the Imperial Medallion?”

They look at each other.

“I am leaving soon. The fleet is going on an extended campaign, and I will lead them.”
”And Cijan is trusting me to be in charge while he is gone. Isn't that exciting?! Say... Kima, want to touch it?”
“...In the old days, there would be a very harsh punishment for a civilian to dare touch the imperial symbol...”
”-Cijan, I JUST got done complimenting you...”

>Touch the Amulet
>Be too Scared
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>>5253112
>Touch the Amulet
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>>5253112
>>Touch the Amulet
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>>5253112
>Touch the amulet
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>>5253112
>Touch the Amulet

Please don’t punish me for my rash action your Supremacy!
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>>5253112
>>Touch the Amulet
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>>5253112
>Touch the Amulet
I doubt that this is some sort of bizarre trap. Why not?
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Don't mind me..new to this board.
Just checking it out.
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>>5253112
>Touch the Amulet
I trust Hwat.
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>Do compliment Cijan on what an honor it is to be allowed to touch the supreme symbol of ruleship.

It is important to be polite.
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If the supreme leader says it's okay, then it's okay, yeah?
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>>5253112
>>Touch the Amulet
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>>5253301
>Do compliment Cijan on what an honour it is to be allowed to touch the supreme symbol of rulership.
This. We're being allowed to, so do it with honour, respect and good graces to the holder of the office.
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>Start brutally fucking Daizasta in front of everyone.
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>>5253393
Sorry, wrong quest.
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>>5253393
>>5253394
Keep that low tier retardation in your quest, this is a place for high level 'tism.
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>>5253407
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>>5253112
>Touch the Amulet
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>>5253419
Changing my amulet from
>touch to amulet
to
>touch the shortstack milf booba
(but not actually)
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>>5250565
>Space Monke is so big its got spin off games now
Kino
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>>5250634
>Literally how many times already did we need our rulers to do something dangerous or get in combat?
None. Al the Supremes that put themselves in combat did so voluntarily. None of it was necessary.
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>>5253531
>you should have just surrendered to the worms bro
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>>5253539
Or not called the worm for a face to face meeting.
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>>5253545
And you believe the worm would have accepted that?
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>>5251173
>>5251096
>>5251121

People are so invested in fictional monke politics they spend time and money on BOTS for it?
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>>5253547
He had no choice. He came to us in desperation, following our brutal genocide of his colony in the whale.
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>>5253551
I think that's a glowie's bot that just happened to glitch in this quest.
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>>5253555
That was the young worm. The older one that tried to kill him was the one that demanded he bowed before him (when he was there)
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>>5253557
>glowie bots
>in /qst/
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>>5253563
>Implying they are not everywhere.
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>>5253112
>Touch the Amulet
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>>5253559
Incorrect. The young worm rapidly grew to maturity through psychic forced puberty shenanigans.
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>>5253419
>Well, NOW Radjo just HAS to give into those hormones and go for it. Kima will briefly wonder why he stopped showing up to see her, but then her life will take other paths. Perhaps in 30 years they might chance upon each other again, and finally Kima would understand why her coach seemed so much happier after that night.
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>>5253675
Actually, the worm had grown a fair bit by the time eoba met it again.
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>Touch the amulet
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>>5253700
Regardless, it was the same young worm who survived our whale-liberation genocide.
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>>5253112
>>Touch the Amulet
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There is nothing good that could come of touching this amulet and everything bad. The Supreme Ruler hasn't given us permission and our father's position as temporary regent hasn't been remotely publicized. We're going to have some serious trauma or family fallout from this. I guarantee it. Here's to hoping Kima isn't crippled.
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>>5253112
>Be too Scared

The sensible option.
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>>5254589
Cijan hasn't come across as an especially unstable Supreme thus far. Crippling the child of the dude who you respect and trust enough to become next-in-line temporary Supreme, and doing so because she followed her father's advice, seems... Crazy.
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>>5254589
Cijan doesn't seem like a schizophrenic mess who would stab a child half to death over merely touching the thing. Especially when he's smart enough to go "hey, don't listen to him, don't touch it".
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You reach out your hand tentatively. Your father brings it closer.

”Wow... so pretty.”

In the Hegemony, jewelry is not worn by common citizens. Even the very traditional practice of wedding rings or tail bands was considered a capitalist perversion in the early days of the Hegemony; and later rulers like Gaftar IV destroyed many of the priceless treasures for their rare earth metals; electronics being more important. Now with asteroid mining and the expansion of the empire, gold and silver could be commonly worn and used, it simply isn't for cultural reasons. Only the Supreme Ruler's medallion, Overseer's necklets, golden bands stitched into the sleeves of a uniform- these are some of the only jewelry around.

”It's not pure gold- there's a bunch of alloys and about nine million electronic components; like a heart rate monitor and AI key. Hey, do you want to know a little secret?”

Before you can even react, your father places it around your neck. It almost seems to pulse with a scary, yet intoxicating sense of importance. You look down as he raises it.

”Do you know why only the Supreme Ruler is allowed to wear the inverted symbol of the Hegemony? This is why. So when you look down, you see that the Hegemony is your body. You are its mind, its eye, and its voice- it is the instrument of your will. This is a secret only known by Supreme Ruler candidates, that feeling of being above the law is-”
“Hwat! Get that off her NOW!”
”...Alright, Cijan. I got carried away. I am sorry.”
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After your father retakes the medallion, he and Cijan talk a bit and then he says his goodbyes. The Supreme Ruler is great crusade, begins now- publicly announced tomorrow morning.

”The moment you return, your grace, I will return this to you.”
“And if I do not return, I expect you to rule justly in my stead! Farewell!”

That night, you go to bed still with the excitement of the day on your mind. When you fall to sleep, you have a dream.

Your dream is very vivid. You are naked, wearing jewels and the amulet of the Supreme Ruler, and as you walk through the field the men and women alike of the Hegemony bow to you. They worship you, and call you their queen. You move your hands and conduct the wind. The dreams ends as you gently wake up, feeling the warmth of satisfaction as the men of the Hegemony look to you as their goddess.

Oh no... what the hell was that?! Why did you have a dream like that? Is it some kind of deep seated desire for power- or a premonition? What's wrong with you, girl?!

There has never been a female Supreme Ruler, and there never will be. Men are stronger and smarter then women, this is well understood. The Supreme Ruler is a warrior, magician, lover, and king. The Supreme Ruler commands and the world obeys. He doesn't merely defeat the enemy, he tortures and destroys them to set an example for all who come later. Even the timing is messed up- Cijan is too young to be seeking a replacement now; and you'll be too old when he is ready to find the next Supreme Ruler- Cijan's own children, when he has them, would have a better chance then you.

But- is there really a reason there hasn't been a female Supreme? You know this already, and yet despite that the first inklings of ambition creep into your adolescent mind. Every challenge your tutors have laid out for you, you've beaten. You aren't proud, but you have the competitive edge and routinely defeat males of your age in test scores and other pursuits- even your gymnastic records show a great physicality- though you have no training in the noble art of dueling, you feel as though you'd be a natural study.

But... is this even something you want?

>Become Supreme
>Stay in your lane
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>>5254647
>>Become Supreme
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>>5254647
>Become Supreme
Don't think that it will work but trying would be interresting.
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>>5254647
>Become Supreme
AIM FOR THE STARS. SO WHEN WE FALL DOWN, WE SHALL DIE TRYING.
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>>5254647
>Become Supreme
I don’t like the ambition aspect, but I do like the idea of trying her best to become Supreme for the sake of her own personal development and growth as a young lady. At the very least, she’ll be a capable backup if Yuan starts causing trouble while King Richard is away. Besides, I think her learning how to duel would be epic.

>Cijan's own children, when he has them
>when
You mean now Cijan. I ain’t leaving you without a proper lineage.
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>>5254647
>Become Supreme
Let's see how far we can go.
Does anyone else feel like, with all the POV shifts, we are being revealed the cast for Yuan's Happening?
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>>5254610
>>5254637
Agori just has me... cautious.

>>5254647
>Become Supreme
Do I smell a coup?
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>>5254711
Agori was an alpha who had a shit ton of self loathing in him. Unless we have another Alpha leader, I doubt we have to deal with that level of unwarranted aggression.
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>>5254719
The problem is aggression would've been completely warranted. The symbol of the Hegemony is the fundamentally sacred foundation of Jaxtian society, it's the equivalent to a senator of Rome letting his daughter wear the emperor's purple robes for a lark. That's huge.
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>>5254702
Yes. I can’t wait for Yuan to enact the Herd Mentality genome for Hegemony citizens.

>>5254719
>Unless we have another Alpha leader, I doubt we have to deal with that level of unwarranted aggression.

Lol
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>>5254647
>>Become Supreme
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>>5254647
>Become Supreme

It's time for Tomboy Supremecy.
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>>5254647
>>Become Supreme
Bow down to the girlboss
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>>5254730
Of course but I felt like if it was THAT big of an issue, Cijan would've shot Hwat down without even giving us the option to touch it.
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>>5254647
>Become Supreme
Usually I wouldn't give a shit however I see nothing wrong with committing space war crimes as a female leader rather than a male one.
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>>5254766
Exactly, I'm just paranoid.
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This is a HORRIBLE idea, i'm telling you right damn now it's going to end horribly for everyone involved and make everything worse

Having a dumb "yaaaas qween" moment is not worth all the side effects this would cause
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>>5254647
>Become Overseer for Xenointegration
(With one eye toward the Supreme spot if Cijan is lost suddenly on a timescale that might allow us a chance to get the position through merit)
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Kima'a ambition will only bring her bad things. To become Supreme, then her father AND CIJAN would have to die - and two rulers dying accidentally will never happen. Not only that, she'd have to seize power before the AI picked another rule

This will only lead to bloodshed.
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>>5254886
>>5254864
>Become Supreme
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>>5254889
When It backfires i'll be there to call you a retarded moron
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>>5254890
We choose the more interesting option, not the safe one.
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>>5254647
>Study to take up your father's old position as defence administrator
We have not studied as a Supreme should study at this point, and I don't mean because of the lack of knife fighting. We also have a very impure motive. I must sadly vote against this iteration of Tomboy Supreme.
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>>5254890
Risks must be taken to have a compelling story, Bananas is running a narrative quest covering the plights of an expansive galactic empire, sometimes we get glimpses and story arcs set in the eyes of a non Jaxtian who can either help or hinder us as a hegemony, my point being there is no lose situation, either we are watching the full history of this species rise to godhood, or we are watching a failed empire and how they fell, we are observers that influence the strings of fate ultimately unknowing of what the future holds, but as we walk these branching corridors picking threads to pluck and follow we see a story unfold for better or worse. Us making Kima strive for Supremacy could easily fuck up the entire empire, but holy shit wouldnt that be a funny few threads?
>first female supreme
>cries over pressure
>constantly mocked
>bad at driving=bad at ruling?
Now on the otherhand
>Fit athletic no emotion tomboy
>Powerful seductress?
>Women in Jaxtian society are submissive and hold no power, with this shift in the power dynamic we can be a truly united Jaxtian species, our military would at least double in size and it could open entirely new tech ideas with the slew of new research
You may hate this prompt but the story/stories and the observations others will make and have you consider opens up your mind, you are becoming a more learned individual through all of this pseudoscience and autism. Not to any useful degree kek butenough that now you care about blue space monkeys on a Somalian BBQ forum
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>>5254647
>>Become Supreme

If she can actually make the scores and compete with the best then she will deserve it. That is the way succession is supposed to work now.

And besides trying to be a 'better' society it would definetly make the story more interesting than just having female jaxtians be always relegated to backround roles.
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>>5255061
>our military would at least double in size and it could open entirely new tech ideas with the slew of new research
Literally the most retarded idea ever. That'd require an entirely different training standard, not to mention opening up the problems of rape as well as romantic relations between soldiers which would SEVERELY fuck up efficiency of overall soldiers, they'd be much more likely to refuse an order.
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>>5255101
>And besides trying to be a 'better' society it would definetly make the story more interesting
Being a generic nation with no real specific cultural values that matter is more interesting? We've already removed the genetic caste. What's next? Giving full citizenship to aliens? Democracy?
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>>5255105
>Ignoring literally my entire post
There is no argument here tard, we picked what we wanted because we wanted to have another historical event, again Kima could crash and burn, she could also become the most likeable supreme weve ever had and guess what thatd be fine because Bananas would play it out in a way that was interesting to the story, youre here to read the story and vote, dont like how its going? Bitch more, but dont do it to me you fucking dumpster baby
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>>5255108
Yes.
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>inb4 Kima goes full Hatshepsut to skirt the law that only males can be Supreme Ruler
Fuck, I think I've realized the implications of the trans-references earlier.
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>>5255115
The idea that any decision is fine because "it'll be interewesting either way" is retarded, might as well burn down jaxt for no reason if that's the case
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>>5255121
Go Hatshepsut... or go Yadwiga?
>instead of going trans, she's granted 'legally male' status as long as she's Supreme
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>>5255127
>burn down Jaxt for no raisin
This is also a boring choice, as it just goes lolsorandumb. It's the for no reason part, Jaxt burning due to civil strife or ayy invasion could trigger a period of Hegemonic rebuild and reform and accelerate scientific progress.
Tl;dr: oh ye of little imagination, do you want a Mary Sue of an empire?
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>>5255136
>do you want a Mary Sue of an empire?
I prefer it when an empire's struggles aren't just the cause of players choosing for stupid stuff on purpose
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>>5255138
Ah, but stupid is relative. Was the decision to duel the worm stupid? Was bringing the cursed heavy metal poisoning asteroid stupid? Was locking the miners and telling them to clean up Liminals stupid? Was not allowing Ingar his blonde sweetheart stupid?
Every decision we make is calculated. Or, viewed the other way around, every decision could lead to stupid results.
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>>5255150
Eh...none of those options were particularly stupid. There wasn't much choice, and in the ones that there were, the risks were small.

However, some decisions are too stupid. I'd say encouraging the woman who had an dream about worshipped like some sort of goddess on the path that will either result in the death of cijan and her own father or worse to follow this path is stupid. There isn't even any benefit to it's positive outcome.
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Yes... you could do it. You could become the first female Supreme Ruler. You're smart, talented, physically fit- and you could become dedicated. So very dedicated.

Of course, you don't think Cijan or Hwat are bad Supreme Rulers- far from it. If anything, Cijan's infrastructure projects and scientific focus after the Eoba reforms have seriously advanced the empire. But perhaps its time for something new- a new perspective on Supremacy.

The only issue; your sex. You are a female, and females aren't allowed to undergo the training for Supreme Rulers. Normally on the highest gene-ranked male infants are put on the beginnings of the programs- but after Eoba, the selection process has become more merit based. There is no reason you couldn't achieve to the same level that male Jaxtians have. However, even with these reforms, these programs still don't select girls- you still couldn't be considered for the program. But that is where you have an ace up your sleeve.

Your Dad.

Hwat is currently the Supreme Ruler of the Hegemony in Cijan's stead. This means all the laws, resources, and traditions of the Hegemony is his to command. While he has become more protective of you as you became a woman, you're still a daddy's girl and you've got him wrapped around your little finger. On top of this, you know he isn't above bending the rules a little bit- you hear he's been diverting some research funds towards his own shelved pet project, some anti-nuclear weapons thing, that he wanted to make for decades but could never secure the funding for. You could convince him to open a few doors for you.

While your early steps in your athletic career have been good to build up your body and muscle memory, the various mental and physical disciplines practiced by Supreme Ruler candidates are unexplored territory for you. Things like debate and politics, leadership skills, and dueling. You've got a lot of catching up to do...
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”Oh fuck... Kima... you're so fucking hot...”

Your name is now Radjo Berax, and you just got done furiously masturbating in a bathroom stall. This is the eighth time today. It is just past lunch.

You feel a rising sensation of shame; not from the masturbation- but from what you masturbated to. Kima- your closest childhood friend. You've tried not to think about when you saw her dancing around in the gymnasium in that skintight suit, but it's so easy to set you off at your age and level of testosterone.

”...Power off. I need to get back to class.”

In the Hegemony, young men are encouraged to masturbate. The Hegemony equips you with AI-generated pornographic programs and “girlfriend” simulators; though you and your friends all have different selections. You know one guy who gets only indigo women- like the government is trying to give him a fetish or something. This goes many times over for Alpha males. You happen to need some “alone time” more often then most Alpha males even of your age. While you hope your sexual urges start to plateau eventually, you don't know how you're going to make it through if your coaches actually start limiting your porn habit to cycle your testosterone for weight lifting...

When you were younger, you didn't think about girls or sex at all. You just wanted to run and play and have fun. And your best friend was a girl- Kima. She was the only one of your group that could keep up with you- you always had this incredible endurance ever since you were a kid- you could run all day until the sun went down. Only Kima could keep up with you. You never imagined that she'd grow up to be so cute! I mean, you always knew she of the genetic upper crust, but it really comes out when you go through puberty you guess...

It had been a few years since you saw each other- only random chance brought you both into your athletic careers and training- and you just so happen to share a gymnasium. Maybe you should try talking to her again, see if you can catch up? The more you think about it, the more you think you just like being around her. Truthfully, you're an Alpha male, but yet you've never even considered trying to court a woman before. Maybe you should try with Kima? What does that little voice in your head say?

>"It's a good idea!"
>"You're a damn idiot!"
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>>5255166
>"It's a good idea!"
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>>5255166
>"You're a damn idiot!"
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>"It's a good idea!"
Maybe if they have children together we'll have an supreme alpha that isn't a complete fucking lunatic
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>>5255131
F*t* isn't my fetish, convoluted bureaucracy is.

>>5255134
That's what I was implying.
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>"If you are going to give it a shot, be really freaking cautious. You will need the Supreme Ruler's blessing."
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>>5255166
>"You're a damn idiot! Even if we try it eventually - NOW WITH CRAZY HORMONES IS NOT THE TIME! Try and reconnect with her as a friend, sure; and if by some miracle she's the one who makes moves on us we're not going to really try and stop them landing; but until things plateau we will be a Gentleman AND NOT PISS OFF HER ACTING-SUPREME FATHER."
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>>5255166
>"It's a good idea!"
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>>5255209
Smart play. Supporting.

>>5255166
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>>5255209
+1
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>>5255209
+1. Let's not piss off one of the most powerful men right now, thanks.
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>>5255290
Plus, if Hwat disappears his daughter's hunky childhood best friend, chances if her regiciding him increase dramatically.
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>>5255166
>"It's a good idea!"
Awww, Kima is already creating her simps! I think Kima should wrap this idiot around her finger.
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>>5255209
+1
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>>5255166
Also, not making any moves on Daizasta? You shame your proud Alpha lineage Radjo!
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>>5255319
On the other hand, a trust with Daizasta can only end in disasta.
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>>5255322
Your implying that teenage Alphas think clearly when hormones are pumping though their veins. Clearly a tryst or ten with Daizasta will clear the head and improve his social standing with his mates and clearly end in disasta, but where’s the fun in admitting that?
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>>5253394
Nigger
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>>5255209
>>5255166

+1
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>>5255339
MY nigga.
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>>5255209
Backing.
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>>5255209
This is big brain strategy right here.
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>>5255173
>Bitches about stupid decisions and cites how females are gonna end up raped
>proceeds to vote for stupid decision that is practically a setup for rape
>>5255209
+1 big brain over here, I like it
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>>5255166
>What does that little voice in your head say?

Opps, sorry, skipped over that bit. This is clearly the correct choice for Radjo’s little head voice.

>Start brutally fucking Daizasta in front of everyone.
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>>5255209
Support
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>>5254647
Oh God we've made Monke Sarasa Uchiha
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>>5255209
+1
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>>5255166
>"It's a good idea!"
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>>5255209
+1
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You decide to play it cool and try to reconnect with Kima, you don't want to come on too strong. After all, you've never dated a woman before; especially not one as talented and beautiful as her.

“Hey Kima! What- What's with the getup... Is that-?”

”Radjo! Uhh, hello. Yes, I am currently undergoing some big training right now. Don't really have any time to talk.”

“Oh, well, that's okay! I know you're very busy with your gymnastics and... now this.”

”Yes.”

“...Well, um, I really wanted to talk to you again after all this time, you know. Because I feel like we're growing up and we might go our seperate ways and that makes me feel sad. I just wanted to say that, uhh, I wasn't looking at you for porn reasons like your coach lady said- I mean, what happened the other day-”

”Radjo, hehe, you're silly. Here, let's add each other as friends on the AI network.”

“Really?! Okay!”

You pull out your phones and your AI automatically pings hers to make the connection. Obviously, it heard what you were talking about in your pocket and using the context made it easy- such is the way of modern AI technology in the Hegemony.

“Wow- you have Hegemonic seal over your profile! That's so cool.”

”Mhmm. Thanks. I need to get going now, nice to see you again, Radjo.”

“Oh- okay, see you later Bye!”

YES! Nailed it! You got her contact. The network is all public- so that means she is willing to friend you online where everyone can see! I mean, she has like hundreds of friends on there, seems like girls always do, but still, you're in! You're going to feel good about this all day no matter how sore your muscles get...
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You are back to being Kima Dulioan. Today is your first day of knife practice.

You enter the Red Room; a very exclusive place. Very few have ever even seen the inside of one of the exclusive dueling clubs on Jaxt.

“What the hell?”
“Hmm?”
“Is that a girl? What's going on?”

You feel a bit nervous as you walk towards the instructor. His family is the Usano bloodline- the duelists who have been teaching Supreme Ruler candidates since time immemorial.

”Dulioan! Glad you can make it, and you aren't late. This isn't the same as a regular classroom you may be used to- all of our work is hands on or observation. Glad you could join us. You will be paired with Val- he's the shortest. I can't say I've ever taught a female student seriously before, but the basic mechanics of body motion should be roughly equivalent-”

“No no- I am NOT doing this! This is bullshit!”

”Val! Shut up, get into position.”

“No! I am not fighting a girl!”

”She is more then physically qualified to-”

“That's the whole point! You're making ME fight her, no matter what- I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't! If I beat her it looks bad, if she beats me, it's even worse! You can't be seriously throwing away over a millennia of tradition to allow this! We could be Supreme Rulers one day, she-”

”ENOUGH!” The instructor roars, putting a hand on his knife. The other, younger males in the room freeze up.
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”Listen to me carefully, Boy. You will never be the Supreme Ruler. None of you will. You come from powerful families yes, but Cijan is our Supreme Ruler. He is not near the age of retirement and selection yet. And unlike what your little Kingmaker parents believe, he will not die on this grand crusade of his he has just undertaken- and even if he did, Hwat, who is this young lady's father, is of the same age. I instructed Cijan before you- and I can promise none of you are even on his level. You are here to continue the tradition of scholarship and prestige, a single woman will not be a drain on any resources or time that will go to someone who may actually become the Supreme Ruler. Now, Val. Get. Into. Position.”

The blonde, the one who spoke the outburst in the first place, glumly walks to the wall to take a combat knife. The other two young males are looking at you, and each other. You get the feeling they're going to start whispering and making fun of the blonde... or you.

”Dulioan.” The instructor says, motioning to you. At his feet is a fine wooden box, with a glass top. Unlocked via AI order, the luxurious glass case holds two small knives. You can tell from here they're real- they look sharp.

”...Normally, my trainees are taught in exactly one weapon- the combat knife. This blade is the traditional weapon of Supreme Rulers since Akule, Unspeakable, Indomitable, may his name echo forever. However, given your unique circumstances, I happen to have another weapon available- my students train until they are masters of their weapons- or they are expelled from the program and shamed. Whichever you decide, stick with it.”

The other weapon is a stiletto. It's a much more “feminine” weapon- and you can already tell why he offered it to you. The weapon is a bit more fragile then a combat knife- meaning your grip is less likely to break it- and with a thinner blade that will be much easier to actually... force a knife into someone's body and kill them. It will require much less upper body strength to do that. But the blade is much thinner and the crossguard smaller- it will lack defense.

But will taking it make you look weak? Is this some kind of test? Which should you take?

>Knife
>Stiletto
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>>5256039
>Stiletto

Focus on our natural strong points: speed and agility over raw strength. In the same way, if we're serious about pursuing Supremeship, we need to focus on our strengths rather than try and compensate for percieved weaknesses.
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>>5256039
>>Stiletto
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>>5256039
>Stiletto
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>Stiletto
That guy is right, though. He's basically screwed. If he wins, he's the jackass who stabbed the supreme leader's daughter, if he loses, he's the pathetic moron who lost to a girl.
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>>5256039
>Stiletto

Normally, I would stick with tradition and pick the knife. But less defense means the need for more aggression, and I like aggression. Besides, maybe embracing our femininity will highlight our tomboyishness.

>Val, I know I placed you in an unwinnable situation, yet often one’s character come to light in such circumstances. It isn’t your circumstances that define you, but your actions in such circumstances.

Seems blondie here gets his personal Kobayashi Maru. I do hope we can become friends in spite of this. Blondies always seems to get the short straw in this quest.
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>>5256039
>Stiletto
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>>5256122
Yeah, that's the thing, saying that right now will probably just end worse
>Not only are you defeated by a random girl who never once trained with knives, she also moralizes to you
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>>5256139
Of course, there's also the case where he wins and hwat goes fucking mental because he hurt his daughter and orders him to be forcibly deboned
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>>5256139
>Being defeated in a duel by Lisa Simpson
Oof.
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>>5256039
>>Stiletto
We trained in gymnastics for this
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>>5256039
>Stiletto
It is best to appeal to our strengths than to try smoothing over weaknesses.
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>>5256039
>>Stiletto
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>>5256039
>>Stiletto
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>Knife
If you to prove you are equal, you must act equal.
And even if we fail at first, we will eventually learn and git good.
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Your instructor nods as you take the cold stilleto into your hands. It's thin, graceful, and deadly to the point... just like you. You'd say so, anyway.

Despite being a blonde- shorter then Jaxtians on average, this child of the Val bloodline is still taller and much heavier then you are. His arms are proportionally longer as well. In any kind of fighting scenario, he has an obvious advantage.

"Take up stance! Like this- hold your blade more steady, Dulioan, pointed straight at your opponent. That's better. Remember- this is point work, no sweeps, slices, or stabs. Can't have any of you getting killed. Knife to knife contact only! We're leaving the AI Referee off for this, none of you are ready to learn lethal strikes yet."

It takes a few seconds, but you understand. This type of practice is all based on knife and body control- moving the point of the knife so you are constantly touching or pointing at the opponents knife point- while they try to shove yours aside. It's a simulated knife fight, but prevents anyone from stepping into a potentially dangerous motion...

As the blonde warms up- his obvious level of experience above your own becomes more apparent. Whenever you move the point towards him, he taps it away with a soft metal clink. It's terrifying, the ways these blades flash. Why do men insist on fighting in such a way? When you were younger, you played in simulators and laser-VR battle arenas, simulated gun battles essentially- but it was all in good fun. This is... not fun.

"Dulioan! You're slipping your guard- he could have killed you four times by now. Just because you are a rookie doesn't mean we're gonna go easy on you-"

You aren't any better at knife fighting, but you think you understand it a little more. Knife fights aren't the same as gun battles or spaceship strategy or anything like that. The motions move so fast that absolute mental readiness must be used to avoid being killed. Even the slightest quarter-turn of the wrist could cut, even the slightest bend of the elbow could leave an opening for your opponent to go for your throat- and worse yet, your own attacks could leave you open as well. It requires a sort of awareness and absolute concentration that quickly leaves you feeling mentally exhausted!
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"Oowww!!!

With a sudden flash of pain- the Blonde's knife slips between your knife and your thumb, cutting into the sensitive webbing skin and ligaments of your hand. There is a quick, sharp pain, and hot blood that pours down your wrist.

"STOP! Val, what did you do!?"
"I didn't do anything! She stepped into it- I swear!"

The panic in his voice makes you feel like he really didn't mean to do that- he seems afraid that he hurt you. But you still feel like he was being too rough with you. I mean, you've never even simulated a duel before, and he's playing with a knife that close to your hand. Bastard.

But as the burning sensation sets into your hand, clutching it, you can feel tears start to well up in your eyes.
"...M-mommy..."
You can't humiliate yourself like this. You need to be a big girl. But it hurts so bad. You can't stop yourself from crying and whimpering. Would any of these boys be doing that from a little cut?

"Network! Call Medbay! Requisition highest quality XS cells! My students don't get permanent scars- Dulioan, you'll be watching the rest of the day..."

You feel, very strongly, you do not want to ever experience that again. Is this really it? A little pain, a little struggle, and your dream comes crashing down? Didn't you want to be the Goddess of the Hegemony? A few minutes of being dominated by a man's skill and strength, a wayward cut, and you're already giving up?

Your mind shifts moment to moment between a sort of self loathing and an anger towards this young blonde who cut your hand. You feel they're both at fault for this- or perhaps its your whole society. Even worse, the other boys in here can hear your blubbering. Do you think they have any respect for you now? What are you going to do?

>Call your Father and tell him to punish the Blonde
>Suck it up, watch, and learn
>Give up dueling for now and rely on simulator training
>Other (Write In)
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>>5256805
>Steel yourself and continue against Val. You WILL learn this. Even if it hurts. And you'll keep the scar, as a lesson.
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>>5256805
>Suck it up, watch, and learn
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>>5256812
+1
To take the role normally occupied by men, we must man up.
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>>5256812
support
It's a small wound. We can insist on getting a bandage and trying again.
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>>5256812
+1
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>>5256812
+1
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>>5256812
+1
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>>5256805
>Steel yourself and continue against Val. You WILL learn this. Even if it hurts.
>After, Suck it up, watch, and learn

If we wanted easy, we would’ve stayed in our lane. We want to be Supreme, and that takes effort, pain, and sacrifice. We ain’t so fragile as to give up after a paper cut.
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>>5256812
>>Steel yourself and continue against Val. You WILL learn this. Even if it hurts. And you'll keep the scar, as a lesson.
Quit whining and Monke up already.
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>>5256812
+1

What are we, a fucking coward? Stand up and keep fighting.
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>>5256805
>Other (Write In)
>Steel yourself and continue against Val. You WILL learn this. Even if it hurts. And you'll keep the scar, as a lesson.
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>>5256805
>Suck it up, watch, and learn
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>>5256812
>supporting this
Monke up, this is the crucible. Will you exit it as steel? Or ashes?
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You can't give up.

You don't know if you will ever be the Supreme Ruler. Signs point to no- not just for your feminine nature in this masculine society, but for the timing. For the culture, and for your own weakness. You don't know if you're strong enough.

But you won't give up.

Your hand is still messed up, sparring with your dominant right will not be possible. You can't hold a knife in it. If that's the case then... you'll have to use your left.

"Hey... Blonde boy. I ain't done with you yet."

>Thread continues later
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You've endured your loss and got back into it. Using your off hand to practice your knifework is a bit unorthodox, but given your amateur level of skill, it may still be worth practicing this way simply to learn the positional awareness and foot placement.

”Don't twist your wrist do much- you're asking to get disarmed.”

More then anything, you hope to have gained their respect.

”...I know you want to keep the scar- but let's give you a deep tissue XS injection just to make sure all your ligaments will heal properly. Any residual stiffness would be very hard to deal with later...”

Still, you aren't an instant expert. Beyond the initial shock of being dueled “by a girl” your blonde opponent tightens up his stance and moves- your sparring session ends with him still in a dominant position- but that's what this learning exercise is for. Out of all the traditions of the Hegemony and Supreme Rulership in specific- this one seems the most unnecessary. As you finish your first day, you think you have a better understanding of the men who make up the highest levels of the Hegemony.

It's not the dueling itself that really matters, it's about the absolute mental and physical focus it requires. It's a sure sign of mastery over the physical and mental space- it isn't like a debate or a popularity contest which could be manipulated or faked, it's a direct physical confrontation that is ultimately decided not by strength or size or even age- so much as it is speed and skill.

”Dulioan! Good work today. I have something for you- a training sim. While nothing compares to real life sparring, this headset will let you train whenever you have extra time. The headset is loaded with a hundred duelist full body and skill scans; the AI automatically picks one most suitable to pit against your skill and fighting style as you progress through the ranks.”

”Thank you, Teacher.”

When you get home later and put on the headset, you are shocked to find the AI selected... Eoba Garastra?! It looks just like him- frozen in place, until you grab the holographic knife to begin the duel...
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Your name is now Hwat Dulioan. Your friend and master, Cijan Anak, is currently in hyperspace deep sleep on the grand crusade. In the meantime, you are the acting Supreme Ruler.

Running the Hegemony is something you were practically born to do. Even from a young age, you learned all the inns and outs of rulership, management, and the physical and mental mastery to be Supreme. As a middle aged man, you feel hilariously out of practice. You'll be honest, family life made you a little soft.

But still, you can manage. It's only for a few years... until Cijan gets back.

Unlike previous dynastic empires; you have no interest in retaining this cursed amulet. Cijan was selected over you fair and square, and you've never been that seriously ambitious- unlike your daughter. You bent the rules a bit at her request- to allow a female to undergo the rigorous training and personal development that creates the greatest men in your society. You may have the same skills as Cijan, but you still feel like he'd be a lot better at this kind of thing then you would!

Recently, a certain high level State Philosopher by the name of Yaun'Tul Scholiander has published three political treaties. Most SP's spend their entire career to write just one, but he just up and released three at the same time- he's also not a Jaxtian, but a Blue Hazaar! Of course, that information is classified; the political body of the Hegemony prefers anonymous contribution so objective merit is prioritized over demagoguery...

Ugh, everything you just said- that's all Cijan's thing! Cijan's historical and political experience would be way better then you here! But you gotta suck it up!

There are three books. All of them pass by the first and second AI sweeps for bannable content- though high level State Philosophers get a little more wiggle room then most- all of these books are up to code. Plus, it is predicted that all three will be influential works of State Philosophy.
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The first is called The Supremacy of the Jaxtian Species, which is a sort of attempt to explain Jaxtian Supremacy in space conquest- your societies love for eugenics and physical excellence, the natural genetic diversity of the Jaxtian species, and other cultural reasons that lead to Supremacy. Perhaps one of the Hegemony's few sins is its love for tradition and honor, so a self aggrandizing novel of historical victories of what is essentially political masturbation is allowed accepted. The fact its written by an alien only shows your cultural dominance!

The second is called Phenology of Capital, which is a market deep dive about space economics and the relationship of the Jaxtian markets. It is incredibly well researched; and your career of civic and infrastructure lets you understand this manuscript the most! The book makes arguments for and against specialized space colonies, instead of generalized “population bases” for the root of the economy, plus the growing problems of an interstellar economy and its failures. It has made several predictions that have ended up correct- making it seem a bit prophetic.

The third and final is the Virtue of Utility & Pragmatism, which is a book speaking about the nature of the Hegemony's philosophy at its core. To view both people, biology, and material reality as a resource to be exploited for its goals. It is by far the most “politically correct” book according to the Hegemony's current guidelines. It attributes much of the success of the Hegemony, and especially its scientific progress, to the Hegemony's constant absorption of alien lifeforms AND technology to better improve itself, instead of clinging to some vague notions of purity.

Your AI assistant, the infant Threemind, advises you that having three high level books of this nature could slow down the political process and spread of ideas through the Hegemony's philosopher network- which in turn leads to less advancement in that sphere. It recommends downplaying one book. None of them will be banned, since naturally they're all high quality works of thought, but one will not receive the same level of praise or spread of publication as the other two- thus minimizing its impact politically. It will become an important, but not cornerstone work like the other two likely will.

Which book do you NOT want to be spread and talked about through the Hegemony?

>Superiority
>Capital
>Pragmatism
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Guys, be smart about this. It is an extremely obvious trap - he hates Jaxtians - so he's probably introduced something HIDDEN
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>>5257743
In fact, I'd say that whichever we choose is what will be hurt THE LEAST since it's going to receive less attention.
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>>5257732
>Superiority

Jaxtians are already masturbatory over themselves, and allowing our species to retain its pride after Yuan'tul wrecks our state's shit will be important. I don't wanna see mass monke suicide.
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>>5257746
Well, thing is, we NEED Jaxtians superioty

Jaxtians aren't just the ones who do basically everything (which can be partly due to their starting advantage), they are the glue that holds the hegemony. If they were gone, it'd just be the Fish People lording over the others.
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>>5257752
Right, but just like you were saying, I think there's a hidden trap in each of these works. By downplaying The Supremacy of the Jaxtian Species, we may well actually preserve that element of society when our shit gets wrecked.
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>>5257755
Yeah, whether or not it'll work exactly as I said, it's fucking Yuan and nothing he says about Jaxtians will be good. Actually, just to make it easier to count
>Superiority
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>>5257732
>Superiority

Metagaming it, it seems counterintuitive that a guy who hates Jaxtians would write such a thing, so it obviously would contain some hidden trap. Perhaps, like Machiavelli, he seeks to undermine monkes under the guide of advising/flattering them, by insinuating the superiority is false or based on spurious reasoning and by using deliberately unflattering characterizations or ones which could also apply to Vetuckers, Swall, or others. Who knows? Maybe he just wants to make the racism is society more explicit so folks like Sunshine are forced to confront it.

Voting in-character, it just seems like an unnecessary puff piece that is unlikely to yield useful insights for our people or government. We already know we're the bestest, thx.
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>>5257761
Well, the AI vetted it, so it might not be just an obvious backhanded complimented. Rather, I think it might also be an "secret message" type deal

Yuan SPECIFICALLY said that one say someone would "Find" his writing, which leads me to believe what the AI saw is not necessarily what he wants to spread
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>>5257765
In that case, though, the contents of the writings themselves may be irrelevant to any decision, at least insofar as it relates to stopping Yaun's secret plot... The secret message may be utterly unrelated to the main subject, if it's coded.
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>>5257770
Maybe. At that point it's just luck. HOWEVER. I do see some "double meaning" language in the books
>The book makes arguments for and against specialized space colonies, instead of generalized “population bases
Fits his idea that the hegemony would be better if It was just other species with their specialties
>the Hegemony's constant absorption of alien lifeforms AND technology to better improve itself, instead of clinging to some vague notions of purity.
Pretty obvious what it is.
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>>5257732
>Superiority
Vanity is fundamentally a weakness. Instead of letting one assess strengths and weaknesses objectively so you may act on them, it puts everything in rose colored glasses that lead to overconfidence, arrogance and making irrational choices.
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>Supremacy of the Jaxtian Species
Masturbatory by nature. Probably aims to point out and criticize what this pride has done to us due to us accepting and loving the political version of masturbation. That and it will probably lead to people being overly cocky if it's 100% straight.
>Phenology of Capital
Probably aims to portray the Jaxatians as unnecessary when it comes to economic power or possibly in general. That the other species are flatout better at doing what we're supposed to do.
>Virtue of Utility and Pragmatism
What nK3 said. It is pretty obvious on what it is.

>Superiority
Hubris, as they say, leads to our downfalls.
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>>5257732
>Superiority
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>>5257732
>Pragmatism

The most constraining of propaganda in that it frames the actions of the Hegemony as based on convenience rather than wisdom.
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>>5257732
>Superiority
Sounds like a trap.
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>>5257732
>Capital
We can't have the populace demanding localized economies. Releasing Pragmatism with Superiority will lessen Superiority's blow and solidify the Hegemony's ideology.
We should be thinking about which two books we want to release together rather than which book we want to censor.
Releasing Capital with Pragmatism will simply make the populace feel as though the Hegemony doesn't have them at heart.
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>>5257732
>but when the Hegemony needed him most, Cijan vanished
Knew it would happen. This is gonna end poorly.
>Wait for Cohan’s input on this
This is why we should’ve put more Monkes into the Starsight Program, then we’d be able to communicate while they are in transit.

If waiting isn’t an option.
>Pragmatism

Supremacy is a guidebook on the Jaxians, their culture, their history, and may have hidden minefields, hidden insight on how to undermine their rule, or/and how to replicate their success for other species.

Capital is probably the most dangerous of them all, as it doesn’t deal with culture, which makes the subversive both more hidden and more damaging. In all likelihood it a way to sneak in the propagation of racial Xeno-only enclaves and colonies, preventing Jaxian expansion and control of space. Also has prophetic appeal, meaning it will draw in a capital-cult to try and follow it’s dictates and predictions like an Islam Fundamentalist or a Marxist Revolutionary.

Pragmatism is materialistic in seeing people as just resources, clogs in a greater machine. It will introduce the death of tradition and honor, in favor of diversity and inclusion, prizing and rewriting the xenos as the reason for the Hegemony’s success instead of the Jaxians, and will eventually lead to the rationale and conclusion that the Jaxians are the problem, and the Xenos as the solution to that problem.

Suppressing Supremacy will to self-hating Jaxians and revolutionary xenos, and give xenos an outsized political-economic control over vital resources and colonies. Suppressing Capital will probably lead to a racewar, with Supremacy being the motivating ideology of Jaxians and Pragmatism being the motivation ideology for the Xeno-Revolutionaries. Suppressing Pragmatism will likely lead to Jaxian pride and ego growing bloated, while xenos start colonizing Hegemonic space in greater numbers than Jaxians, but it will prevent the core Xeno-Revolutionary ideology from becoming mainstream, while preventing the death of tradition and honor. Suppressing Pragmatism from becoming an ideological cornerstone of the coming revolution is the lesser of all three evils.

I’m the Supreme, and you gotta deal with it!- Kima
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>>5257823
Also, I think Superiority is a bait option. Yaun's smart enough to know about the Hegemony's control of information and what it can censor (which is probably why we've got three treatises at a time). Likely he hopes that considering Hwat's interests Capital would be allowed.
most likely we're screwed whatever we pick just in different ways
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>>5257827
Hm, well-reasoned.

>>5257732
Switching my vote at >>5257761
to:
>Pragmatism
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>>5257787
>>5257732
Ya know what, fuck it, changing to
>Pragmatism
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>>5257746
It recommends downplaying one book. None of them will be banned, since naturally they're all high quality works of thought, but one will not receive the same level of praise or spread of publication as the other two- thus minimizing its impact politically. It will become an important, but not cornerstone work like the other two likely will.
>It will become an important, but not cornerstone work like the other two likely will.

Key word here being cornerstone. You want to prevent the decay and death of tradition, the you must cockblock the materialistic identity that will try to supplant it.

>>5257776
Political-correctness will do the same thing, just with the Xenos. Monkes will probably turn self-hating instead.

>>5257823
Prizing pragmatism over tradition will lead to a ideological conflict in the heart of the Hegemony. Releasing Supremacy and Pragmatism together will tear the Hegemony in two.
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>>5257761
Machiavelli is a great example in this case, his Discourses on Livy can be compared to be a mix of Yuan’s Capital/Pragmatism.
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>>5257823
Superiority+pragmatism will directly tear the Hegemony in two. Sadly we have to let the economy through no matter what or we are fucked. At least one is obvious in how it will blow up in our face though.

>>5257830
All of them are traps. All he needs is to ensure enough of them get through that they later blow up.

>>5257732
>Pragmatism
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>>5257732
>Capital
Superiority and Pragmatism will cover for each other.
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>>5257732
>>Capital
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>>5257732
I'm going to vote for
>Capital
Because if our system of economic interdependency is undermined, the Hegemony is irrevocably fucked.
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>>5258018
Dammit, my IP changed. I'm TJB1XQTZ.
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>>5257732
>Superiority

Given that Yuan'Tul hates JAXTIANS but proclaims loyalty and patriotism to the Hegemony itself, it just seems to make most initial sense to let the Hegemony books pass whilst suspending the one that focuses on the Jaxtian species.
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>>5257923
It will rip the Hegemony into a civil war. The two ideologies are incompatible, and one must reign Supreme.

>>5258018
The Hegemony is also fucked if a racewar kicks off a civil war, the economy would be fucked harder than when Ingar killed himself.

>>5258024
How do you figure? I think giving the Xeno-Revolutionaries an ideological backbone to overthrow tradition would be worse.
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>>5258026
Because there's NO WAY that 'The Supremacy of the Jaxtian Species' is going to be sincere given who it was written by. I'm betting it's been written cleverly in a way that most Jaxtians will lap up but will make anyone elsefrom the other species who reads it think 'Man, those guys are dicks'.

Whilst the other two books are more likely to actually be genuine and useful for the building and development of the Hegemony.
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Think about it for a moment people, Yuan's entire thing is his BLINDING HATRED for the Jaxtian Species

It's obvious that if we let the supremacy book get popularized, it's going to turn LITERALLY EVERYONE AGAINST US
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>>5257732
>Superiority
Race Realism is funny and all, but not good for inter-galactic empires unless you're Big E
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>>5258112
>Whilst the other two books are more likely to actually be genuine and useful for the building and development of the Hegemony.

Now I know you’re taking the piss outta me.

>>5258121
No, that would be Pragmatism, which is a cover for Xeno-Supremacy and the abolishment of tradition, in effect Jaxian cultural genocide. I’d rather people think the Monkes are pig-headed than have the cornerstone of this political revolution be ‘Xeno good, Genocide Monke’.

>>5258122
Friendly reminder, Pragmatism is also Race Realism, but this time the majority of billions get the boot.
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Oh wise anons, what's the smart vote here?
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>>5258129
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ODV6mxVVRZk
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>>5258132
Whatever helps you tie the noose, anon.
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>>5258134
With a SJW Yuan? It’ll be like a holiday.
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>>5257844
But Pragmatism SHOULD be prioritized over tradition. Hell Pragmatism should be prioritized over EVERYTHING in the Hegemony.
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>>5258129
Let's asses the options as parings

>Capital+Pragmatism
This will probably lead to a "Bee Hive" style civilization growing where specific Xenos are assigned to specific world for specific purposes. We wouldn't colonized space so much as turn each world into a factory/base/research lab depending on what assets are there.

>Superiority+Pragmatism
This probably will lead to a political fission in our society. One will be for total Jataxian Supremacy the other will be for seeing all species as assets to be used based on their unique strengths and weaknesses. I don't think it inherently will lead to a race war but it will introduce political disagreement for the first time in centuries and depending on how we vote the conflict could get worse .

>Superiority+Capital
This would probably lead to a Mercantile style system where Jataxian world's are consumer driven "upper class" planets while the world's assigned to Xenos will basically be plantations or sweatshops or customer support call centers. Basically ba scaled up version of Earth from the 1800s onward.

Imo Capital+Pragmatism holds the least potential for conflict and the most upside.
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>>5257732
>>Capital
This will lead not only to capitalism, but also its antithesis. The last thing we need is a communist revolution.
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>>5257732
>Pragmatism

Plantation economy time
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>literally not even bothering to read the whole post
What part of YUAN do you not understand
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>>5258362
Who are you replying to?
>What part of YUAN do you not understand
*YAUN
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>>5258367
People are literally just choosing what they want for the civilization, completely and utterly ignoring the actual questionn and the fact that it's been written by YUAN. They're taking it at face value.

And no, i will not call him Yaun, that sounds stupid. It's Yuan.
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>>5258370
There's plenty of discussion of He Whose Named Shall Never Be Spelled Correctly in this thread, my dude. Calm down.
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>>5258370
Also, his name is fucking Yuan. i WAS THERE when he was introduced. It said YUAN. I will not be gaslighted. YUAN.
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>>5258376
Meds, friend. Meds.
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>>5258112
I know most of y'all Superiority voters think that book is trapped, but I think we should vote based on what is given to us. I doubt there's anything hidden in the text that isn't in the summary we're given, for the simple reason that wouldn't be playing fair.

>>5258314
Why wouldn't Superiority and Pragmatism balance each other out? One is Jaxtian masturbation and the other is praising the Hegemony (founded by Jaxtians) for how practical they are with their resources, which acknowledges the xenos.

also see
>Releasing Capital with Pragmatism will simply make the populace feel as though the Hegemony doesn't have them at heart.
Because the focus will be more on the Hegemoney's disregard for the individual(s) to further its own elite goals.

>>5258376
archive-dig and prove it
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>>5258384
>>5258398
I can't screenshot, so
https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5120724/

LOOK AT IT. YUAN. Not Yaun, Not Yoon, Not Yen,
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>>5258384
>>5258405
ah....
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>>5258398
>I doubt there's anything hidden in the text that isn't in the summary we're given, for the simple reason that wouldn't be playing fair.
We LITERALLY played as Yuan, who, more than once, has said he HATES Jaxtians. How the hell would it NOT have something hidden?
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>>5258398
>Why wouldn't Superiority and Pragmatism balance each other out? One is Jaxtian masturbation and the other is praising the Hegemony (founded by Jaxtians) for how practical they are with their resources, which acknowledges the xenos.

Because the Pragmatism philosophy states the Hegemony's success is based on it's use all assets regardless of their source and the Supremacy philosophy is based on saying the Hegemony success is driven by Jataxians being ubermonkes.

They are opposing ideals. Having opposing ideals in a civilization doesn't inherently lead to civil war but it is riskier than the options that don't our them together because the Economic system is compatible with both views.
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>>5258405
>>5258408
The Overseer Candidate vote had the AI introduce him as Yuan, as did the narration when he was first reintroduced after becoming a state philosopher. However, the passages where we play as him or as another Hazaar consistently refer to him as Yaun; I screenshotted one earlier, from the hatred/jealousy vote.
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>>5258445
He was introduced as Yuan. That means he stays Yuan.
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>>5258446
Better as Yaun though, because then he will become Yaun Ten Jantris, Chakravartin Jagganoth.
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>>5257732
>>Capital
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>>5257732
>>5258314
>Pragmat
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>>5258446
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Very well, I've been convinced.

>Utility and Pragmatism
It might the best one to subsume long-term, due to its more direct anti-jaxtian implications.
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>superiority
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Man, I have no idea how to vote here because I don't know if this is some "these are all actually things Yuan'Tul is actually going to subvert in our society", if this is face value what we want improved, or some other weird mind game thing, and these all drastically change how you should vote to get an outcome you want. Additionally, apparently these are all AI approved and Hwat even has some expertise on one of them. Very confounding.
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>>5258588
Consider the implications of both the books together you won't censor.
Then ask what those implications will do and whether that's a good thing.

I notice no one's considered just not censoring any books and retarding the political philosophy field.
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>>5258606
That would have its own complications (stagnation of thought and reduced adaptability, quite possibly). Also, in-character, Hwat has no reason to do that.
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>Then ask what those implications will do and whether that's a good thing.

If the three options Pragmatism+Economy is the best choice because it lets us optimize our internal assets.

Look at what the Baalathi did for our tech or what the Blue Hazaar did for the Xin project. Imagine how advanced our tech would be by now if we didn't wait decades to seed the Baalathi in our territory.

We are about to claim the Hazaar and Baal homelands. That's a lot of assets that could be turned into the engine of massive empire we will need to be to deal with our more powerful neighbors
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>>5258694
You do understand that it's Yuan doing these things, right? 'Pragmatism' is basically going to be a hidden message that Jaxtians are useless and should be wiped out and replaced. Superiority is going to be the message that Jaxtians are disgusting and horrible. And economy is going to be the message that the hegemony would work perfectly fine without the jaxtians.
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>>5257732
>It is by far the most “politically correct” book
That is the biggest dog whistle as I have ever heard. Fuck the SJWs.
>Pragmatism
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>>5258695
All three options are written by Yuan so they all have the equal weight of undermining us.

Given that, we have to asses them on their own merits as "Yuan wrote this so it's secretly a trap" applies to all of them.

The

Superiority+Capital
Plan is going to exaggerate racial tensions. Which feeds right into Yuan's hands. Notice how he was disappointed when we chose to reward the Blue Hazaar.

Superiority+Pragmatism
Plan is going to lead to political tension as one side would be ok the side of Migrators as navigators or Ballathi on our gas giants while the other would be against this due to tradition.(Notice how some viters were against the Baalathi plan due to it "Insulting Vul's memory" or were against the Migrator plan due to them being Xenos, but both turned out wrong in the end.)

Pragmatism+Capital
Are the only two options that synergize in the least destructive method. We set up our empire as a series of planets , each assigned a specific purpose (Mining, research, agriculture etc) and populated with a specific blend of Hegemon subjects to shit those goals.

*All* these choices can blow up in our face, so go with the one that gives us the maximum upside until that happens. If you're gonna get shot, get shot on the bum.
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>>5258700
Social justice is not politically correct in the Hegemony, friend. "Politically correct" does not mean "extremely egalitarian and sexually permissive" in all contexts. It just means that it is very agreeable to the political elite and to societal harmony. In The Hegemony... That means fascist apologism, because it is an actual fascist space-nation. Don't let real life local politics confuse the issue.
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>>5257732
>Capital
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>>5257732
If we cut Pragmatism we become the British Empire, I'd we cut Capital we become the modern USA. Imo cutting Supremacy keeps us the most in line with how we are running the game
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>>5258588
It’s mainly "these are all actually things Yuan'Tul is actually going to subvert in our society" and probably other weird mind gamey shit.

Would’ve even nice to get Cijan’s perspective on all this, this was supposed to be his wheelhouse.

>>5258606
I literally sated that we should wait for Cijan’s input, this is literally his expertise. We can delay until Cijan gets outta hyperspace and we get his input on the philosophical works.

>>5258694
I disagree, the majority (as in hundreds of billions) of our assets are Monke related. The other species are extraordinarily useful in specific circumstances, don’t get me wrong, but our manpower is predominantly monke, and this doesn’t take into account the destruction of tradition and honor as a useful societal standard, which will lead to the abolition of family and social instability in the long term.

>>5258705
No, Superiority and Pragmatism will lead to racial tensions becoming politicized, which will lead to a race war. Superiority and Capital may increase racial tensions, but will avoid the death of tradition and the subversion of Xeno-Revolutionaries.

Pragmatism and Capital is the most socially destructive method, literally culturally genociding the Monkes under the guise of ‘pragmatism’ while glorifying the subversion of the state by the xenos. This is clearly the worst of the three.

>>5258718
I think the comparisons are different. If we cut Supremacy we’d be Maoist China, if we cut Capital we’d be Yugoslavia, and if we cut Pragmatism we’d be Imperial Japan (imagine Kamikaze Monkes and Alpha Banzai charges).
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>>5258936
You have a point here, pragmatism seems like it's going to actually be the worst to the jaxtian race in the first place, due to claiming that the jaxtian race is "unecessary" rather than simply saying they're "stupid gross and dumb"

I'm going to change my vote >>5257756 to
>Pragmatism
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What if we're looking at this the wrong way?

I doubt the ministry of truth would let a Jaxtian genocide message through, even if it was coded. Instead, these could be ideological backbones for three CHARACTERS, which would act as their support base during yet another succession crisis. Cijan may already be fated to die on this trip.

Instead, we may be picking which two strongest characters have a chance to fight over the Supreme Ruler's crown. So who fits for each?

>Superiorty
This one I feel is Kima. She is learning the dueling and honor tradition, and she is a pure Jaxtian with no indigo alien dna.
>Captial
Hwat fits the best, but a succession crisis with his daughter may not make sense.
>Pragmatism
For people thinking any Hazaar has a shot- remember we HAVE a xeno loving Supreme candidate- he's just not politically active. Maktana's clone! He's studying the Vetuck and would value aliens highly.
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>>5258945
The reason why I don't want to cut Pragmatism is that despite it coming from a Jataxian hater, the game so far has done nothing but prove it right.

Treating all the different races in the Hegemony as a pokemon line up is what gave us Threemind , the Gas Giant Shipyards, a habitable Xin and a the Migrator hyperspace navigators. Yuan's only real flaw is his anti-Jataxianism not slotting them into that dynamic, but the general principal of the ideology is sound and something I think we should go for .

Imagine Ventuck soldiers, Swalli engineers raised from birth ala Ingar II, or gas controlled Baalathi swarms turning otherwise unusual gas giants into massive production factories.

If we cut Pragmatism, I fear we are going to run into situations like we did earlier where we didn't seed the Baalathi and as a result , BQM said we missed out on a science buff.
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>>5259093
Is it worth it to advance science at the expense of monkekind, when we are playing the monkes? This isn't Hegemony Quest; what if the Jaxtians get subordinated within the over all structure, leaving us playing the equivalent of a territorial governor?
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>>5259072
I absolutely love your innocent interpretation, but this eventually was long in the making. There was going to be some civilization-wide catastrophe Yaun would perpetuate when we chose for him to hate the Jaxians. One of Yaun’s career choices would’ve led to a foreign Deathstar that would’ve blown up a planet or two, and the other the sterilization of the Jaxian race, leading either a Hail Mary Matrix Immortality play or the genocide and exterminations of the Jaxians. This choice on philosophy? It’s choosing what type of cyanide pill we want to swallow. Good luck to the future Supremes in picking up the pieces and dealing with the fallout.

>Cijan may already be fated to die on this trip.
That would be a shame, we specifically chose him because of his previous experience as a historian and State Philosopher. It’s a shame that we’ll never get to see his Meji Restoration in action.

>>5259093
You forget that while it may not be as widely circulated, it will still spread throughout the Hegemony as an important work, it just won’t be as extreme as the other two. If anything, the Machiavellian comparison works here. Even though his Discourses on Levy was more in depth as a love letter to his true political beliefs, his sly and subtle ribbing in The Prince is his most memorable accomplishment. Machiavelli also wanted his State to succeed in spite of the current Autocrat coming into power. Really there are a lot of similarities between them now that I think of it.
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>>5259099
We would always wind up playing the Supreme. It's not like the keeping the Pragmatism option is going to change that
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>>5259137
Right. But I am saying that Pragmatism and Capital both have actual in game upside to the Hegemony.
Supremacy is just ego stroking.

If we're going to take a posion pull, take the one that gives us stat buffs.
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>>5259156
My problem is that these icebergs are bigger under the water than what they appear on the surface. There is no free lunch with Yaun, and ego stroking isn’t as potentially damaging as claiming the Xenos are the sole reason for our success.
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>>5259153
Or we'll end up playing the supreme-most SPACE MONKE, which may not always be the absolute leader of the Hegemony.

>>5259156
Supremacy has an upside: if it stays a major cultural touchstone, it can leader to greater stability, respect for tradition, and respect for Jaxtian minorities, since it touts one reason for monke basedness as " the natural genetic diversity of the Jaxtian species".
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>>5259189
That seems like a stretch and something far more intangible than optimizing our colonies in multiple ways.
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>>5259361
Problem is that optimizing won’t matter when we’re balls deep in a catastrophe. This is about damage mitigation, not optimization. I do expect billions to be dead at the end of this neo-Cultural Revolution.
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>>5259382
Optimization *is* damage mitigation. Every one of these books is written by someone with anti-Jataxian sentiment, so the best move is to pick the ones that have the most upside to go with the inherent risk.
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>>5259399
Optimization isn’t damage mitigation by definition. Every one of the works will be important and incorporated into the Hegemony eventually, this is a choice of what extremes we’ll face in the backlash, not which work to censor or discard.
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This was a great vote- I'm glad so many people voted and it ended up being so close. By my count;

>Supremacy- 7
>Capital- 7
>Pragmatism- 10

So we're going with that book being forgotten. Thanks again everyone for voting- we'll get back to the game in a minute!

Also, we can use this as the obligatory mid-game OOC post. Is there anything you're concerned about or would want to do differently for the "sidequest" here, or do you think it's good?
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>>5259555
One question, by the way, is this just going to continue as a sidequest exclusively or is it going to just have normal votes? This latest one seems fairly normal.
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>>5259555
What was the real purpose of forgetting one of the books? I sort of just expected them to be a triad of sorts, released all at once. Was that the original intention or did that change?
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>>5259555
How does it feel to have the worst playerbase since Fateshit?
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>>5259555
I would like the sidequest to embrace gameplay not seen in the main quest. Think Pokemon Mystery Dungeon or Metal Gear Rising Revengence . Basically something to make this feel more like a different game in the same universe and less like episode 6
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>>5259640
That would be kind of neat. I guess it is a sidequest by dint of of not playing the actual Supreme at all?
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>>5259555
Personally I don't like how cryptic this previous vote was, but cryptic votes have long been a part of this quest, so maybe that's not really going anywhere.
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>>5259559
>>5259640
>>5259691
Yeah, the "sidequest" was about playing anything other then the Supreme Ruler, since that's normally the main idea of the quest. More character driven then large scale societal or science changes. I'm not exactly sure how to add different gameplay to the quest or sidequest in a format that fits this website, but I've done it before and it is certainly something to think about.

>>5259571
>>5259984
I feel that. This vote was meant to be "snuck in" to characters who don't know exactly what it means and how important it is. I agree that maybe giving more information, even as a vague hint, would be better then just three options with little context. Unfortunately, I feel at this point, Yuan's plan and actions have been so hyped up no matter what comes of it people may be disappointed. But with the themes of this quest I hope it can live up to it.

Alright, thanks for the feedback! Back to the regular quest when I can get out the next update, probably in 12 hours. Thank you for your patience.
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>>5260285
I, for one, would be happy to be "disappointed". Maybe something we did pre-empted his plan to subvert us by changing the context of our society that he is criticizing.
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>>5260309
It already happened a little with our act of backhanded mercy to the Blue Hazaar on Xin.

I actually think there's a chance we fucked ourselves over a little by then emphasizing supremacy and de-emphasizing their contributions, but it's the gamble I'm willing to take.
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>>5260285
>Unfortunately, I feel at this point, Yuan's plan and actions have been so hyped up no matter what comes of it people may be disappointed.
To be fair, it’s hard to live up to the hype of a Deathstar and a literal genocide of the main species. I’m sure whatever happens, it will up to the themes of the quest. You already have a track record of great writing, I’m sure you’d pull it off regardless of the hype not living up to expectations.

>>5260311
Problem is, the descriptions of the books left a lot to the imagination. We really don’t have an inkling of what would resulted from this decision unless Cijan was around to help us decipher what Yaun’s works really entailed.
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>>5260311
I totally agree that Supremacy should have been cut but hey that's democracy
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>>5259577
Not even close. We had a female MC this thread and nobody tried to make her a lesbo.
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>>5260601
Because the only girl mentioned in her section was her own mother? Kinda hard to find people who are into dykes AND incest AND space monkes.
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>>5260668
Idk, I don't think that it's our kind of autism.
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>>5260668
wasted opportunity.
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Your name is now Danbo Schulj. Yes, like the fruit. Your mom says she named you that because you were a “big fat cute baby”, just like a Danbo.

The funny thing? You actually hate them. Haha, they're your least favorite fruit. That's something people will remember you for- you don't even like the food your named after!

You live on a space station- this vessel orbits Drakas III; the gas gaint. This vessel is part of the energy and Tritium/Deuterium extractors that fuels the construction of colonies and industrial plants on the terrestrial planets in this solar system. You don't have anything to do with that.

When you were younger, you were encouraged by so many people to do so much. You didn't score too high on the various tests you got, but where you did succeed, you were encouraged to continue. It all just felt like work- your genetic score was enough to give you a breeding license, so what's all this testing for exactly anyway?

You managed to scrap by and pass basic education, and then you got an AI assistant that just told you to do MORE studying. Didn't I just finish that? You were given a choice of where to move- off a habitable planet that mostly supports families, and you went to a space station. Your AI assistant still wouldn't stop bothering you- It wouldn't stop annoying you about your “neuroplastic peak” until, eventually, you passed by that date and time by a few years too. Finally, FINALLY, it stopped! Now, it just sets your work reminders. Finally you can focus now on what you like and stuff you want to do!

You live in Class Twelve Housing. It's pretty humble, but you like it. You don't have too much to clean! It's a self contained unit- a small room with a bed, toilet, and kitchenette that can be slid out from the walls. You get recycled air and water straight from the station's supply- naturally, you need to be a little conservative or else your account will get deducted. Right outside your door is actually an artificial microgravity shaft, letting dozens of units stacked together in an efficient tower. Despite how far away you are from the rest of the empire, your job allows you to basically be anywhere.

But what do you do for work? That's the best part! You work with simulators- specifically, a very critical job in testing and machine innovation! This also meant that the Hegemony had to outfit you with a top of the line set of simulation goggles! You can even use them outside of work too. One of the perks of the job!

You have to test a few more machines today for your minimum daily quota- you don't care too much about doing overtime for a few measly credits or advanced meal tickets. You'll just focus on getting the job done today. Placing on your goggles, you're given a strange new machine.
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It looks like a walk in closet- or a smaller version of one of those big shipping capsules these use to ship Azurium and shit all over the empire. It's got a bunch of buttons on one side, a few canisters on the other, and a standing thing in the center with a big button. The walls are curved and made of glass towards a scary looking... orb? Aperture? At the other end. At least there's a clear indicator of where the operator is supposed to stand...

INSTRUCTIONS: CENTRAL PODIUM TURNS ON THE MACHINE. ACTIVATE MACHINE ONLY AFTER GAS IS RELEASED INTO THE CHAMBER. STAND IN PLACE AND DO NOT LEAVE WHILE MACHINE OPERATES.

Oh, what the hell? Nothing is labeled in this stupid machine! What a pain in the ass. Why would they send this half finished bullshit to you anyway.

”Uhh, release gas?”

THIS MACHINE IS NOT VOICE ACTIVATED. ACTIVATE MACHINE ONLY AFTER GAS IS RELEASED INTO THE CHAMBER.

Ugh. What should you do?

>Use control panel on the left
>Press button on the center diode
>Turn valve on the right

This is the only choice in this quest that does not matter.
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>>5260737
There's probably some hint from previous updates that'll tell us what the right choice is
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>>5260737
>Turn valve on the right

Valves are gassy and stuff, right guys?
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>>5260737
>Turn valve on the right
Seems the most obviously connected to the gas

>>5260739
idk, looks pretty straightforward
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>>5260737
>Press button on the center diode
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>>5260737
>>Turn valve on the right
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>>5260737
>Fuck this half-finished bullshit, turn on your favorite pornographic simulations instead

Just indulge in your holo-addiction monke Reginald Barclay.
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>>5260737
>>Press button on the center diode
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>>5260737
>turn the valve on the right
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>>5260737
>Turn valve on the right

Not only is it a valve, but next to the canister. Sounds like a manual gas release.
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>>5260737
>Use control panel on the left
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Hmmm, I smell a trap.....
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>>5260737
>Turn valve on the right
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>>5261007
Nah, I bet we're testing the ergonomics of a self-euthanasia booth.
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>>5261139
Ah, well, if it is for the sake of quality performance...
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>>5260737
>Turn valve on the right
Are we a "is this thing designed intuitively enough to be used by lazy and kinda dumb citizens" tester?
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>>5260795
Oh trust me, you WANT to! You want to so bad...

Your digital girlfriend is constantly being updated with new bodies- fully simulated, fully interactive. Oh baby. You can't understand how people in the past managed- every year it seems like computer cycles double or triple as the Hegemony advances its computer technology- nowadays you can get full body, full personality sims going for hours and hours without being cut off...

But unfortunately, you need to do some work eventually. If you don't, you'll get your cycles docked off your rewards, plus you'll probably get a mean talking to by your remote supervisor. He's some self important prick that lives in Class 11 Housing, thinking he's some kind of big shot because of it. What a fucking loser.

You decide to turn the valve on the right- you get the feeling a valve fits for gas related machine stuff. You hear the hiss of gas in the simulation, Afterwards, you press the button on the center podium- and the machine beeps.

”Did I do it?
TEST COMPLETED. SUCCESSFULLY. WORK CREDITS HAVE BEEN DEPOSITED IN YOUR ACCOUNT.
”Alright! Let's knock these out- got another one for me?”
NEGATIVE. YOUR FOOD ORDER HAS ARRIVED.

Oh yeah! You put in that order half an hour ago, glad your computer can remind you. You open the door to your room to see your friend levitating in the gravity field- carrying a little set of food boxes- and one for you!

”Oh, hey Frav!”
“Hey Danbo- you get the green squash today?”
”Mhmm.”
“I mean, it's a little expensive, don't you think? The hydrophonics on the station grow other foods better-”
”Yeah, but I think it's worth it. It's not too hard to earn credits in this job. What about you? Is it fun to fly around all day?”
“Oh yeah! I mean, you gotta be careful not to step into someone's gravity well in their room, but the AI does a good job of keeping you safe. Speaking of which- you can do your sim stuff any time of the day right? We're actually looking for more people down in the canteen during peak hours- you could do your simulator stuff before or after then.”
”Oh, well... I mean, thanks for the offer but, I'd rather not. I already have a job, plus there's new simulator stuff I wanna try...”
“Oh... well, you know that doing a bunch of different jobs makes you look better in the computer system, right? I've been trying to do one of every job on the station- you can work your way up to supervisor if get enough experience- and you get little decimal point raises every time you get a commendation from your new jobs act as a nice incentive to learn new things. It's kinda fun!”
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”Yeah, but if you do ALL of that for a few measly credits- and then they just expect you to remember all of that, to DO all those different jobs you learn. I've seen other people's schedules- They'll keep asking you to do this and that, you think you're gaming the system, but really, you're just getting more and more possible things they could ask you to do without notice, messing up your schedule, more ways to try and trap you into making a mistake so they can just demote you... No thanks. It's not worth it. I'll stick with what I know.”
“Hmm, well, Alright, Dan. I gotta finish my deliveries before they get soggy. See you later.”
”Bye.”

You quickly pull out a seating arrangement and table from the wall and get to chowing down. You quickly form a plan for the rest of the day in your mind- finish this meal, put on your googles and do another machine or two until your AI is satisfied. As much as you hate exercise, you've got to go do a twenty minute walk in the hydroponic garden or else you'll start getting get yelled at for that too. After that, you'll come back home and have the whole night to load up your simulator games- and later you'll load up your AI girlfriend to spend some quality time with. Hehe, this is gonna be a fun night...

You are now Hwat Dulioan again. After almost a full year in hyperspace, the Supreme Ruler has finally dropped out of stasis and into the Haazar star cluster.

”Your Majesty! I trust your trip went by well?
“Well, no worms, if that's what your asking. How goes the empire? Fall apart while I was gone?”
”No Sir, nothing to report. New technology being worked on, a few liminals found on some colonies, a few SP books published, that kind of thing.”

Over the din of electronic interference, you can hear the voice of Bluey. “Reconquistaaa!”

“Good to hear. Keep control of the situation- I'm going to be very busy here dealing with the Baalathi infestation in these systems- even though we have instant communication across unlimited distant, I still need you there as my local administrator while I'm commanding the fleet.”
”Understood Sir. I won't take any more of your time...”

>Mention & Send a digital copy of Yaun's books to Cijan
>Don't waste Cijan's time and disconnect
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>>5261552
>Mention & Send a digital copy of Yaun's books to Cijan
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>>5261552
>Mention & Send a digital copy of Yuan's books to Cijan
No real reason why not
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>>5261552
>Mention & Send a digital copy of Yaun's books to Cijan
He probably should take a look.
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>>5261552
>Mention & Send a digital copy of Yaun's books to Cijan
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>>5261552
>Mention & Send a digital copy of Yaun's books to Cijan

Here’s some light reading material for ya Cijan. Sort of buzzed over two of them, but Capital was well researched and interesting from a civic and infrastructure perspective.

And say hi to Bluey for me. *cue muffled screeching of Reconquistaaa in the background*
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>>5261552
>Mention & Send a digital copy of Yaun's books to Cijan
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>>5261552
>Don't waste Cijan's time and disconnect
We already made our decision, so who cares?
What if Yaun intercepts the communication and sabotages Cijan to prevent his return or couteracting of the grand plan?
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>>5261552
>Mention & Send a digital copy of Yaun's books to Cijan
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You think to what you're hearing on the restricted State-Philosopher comms right now...

“It is the same as the fact of unquestioning Superiority from the Supreme Ruler to the subjects as it must be from the Jaxtians to the alien races.”

”The enforcing of such a will- if it be backed by actual political necessity or by your blind jingoism, is simply ineffective from an economic perspective.”

“So you stand by the belief that the Swalli, allowed to advance their technology uninterrupted, a threatening pustule ready to burst in our own space, should be given gifts and rewarded for their constant refusal to accept Jaxtian rule?”

”I did not say such a thing. The Swall have zero relation to the independent territories concept, nor are they a sign of things to come from any other alien species. No other alien species has been found to match Jaxtian intelligence alone except for them-”

“Except for the GSA, to which our Supreme Ruler is consuming considerable resources to reach without an action plan to defeat them.”

”Irrelevant. The GSA's technology is not understood yet- the beliefs of their technology superiority are only hearsay. While we also agree that the Supreme Ruler's actions are a heavy expense in a time when we should be consolidating resources, the appeasement of a growing base of tax payers will-”

“Tax-Payers is a prohibited term for regular citizenry. To imply the citizen is a “tax base”, or has a “wealth” that is not owned by the state, or that the Hegemony is somehow accountable to this “tax payer” is a liberal belief and invalid.”

”You know what I meant! The Jaxtian people do not need to be aiming to fight with and destroy our well respected allies- who border our empire and have caused very little trouble since their discovery- as the opportunity-cost of such operations will greatly reduce our ability to manage our own estate!”

Good lord, shut up.

”Cijan, there is one more thing. Three books have recently been published by a high ranking State Philosopher- it's stirred a lot of discussion. These are seminal works. You've always been better at this sort of thing- and I know I can't ask you to read them when you put the responsibility on me to handle things at home, but perhaps if you have some downtime...”

“Ahh, I'd be more then happy to give them a look over when I have time. Send me the files.”

”Understood. Thank you, your Grace. Hwat over and out.”
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This newfound discussion over State Philosophy has been quite a bore- and not something you want to spend time and energy on. Besides, you need to work on that old science project- you're sure that gift will please Cijan when he returns- Anti-Nuclear Weapon Technology!

The truth is you have something else even more important happening in your life at the moment- your lovely daughter. While it was a certain buck to tradition, you decided to allow her to enroll in the Supreme Leader training program. It's not something many, if any, women have ever undergone before. She asked you to get her in and you couldn't refuse- why would you? It's for her own development. Her talent, her ambition- it's so very much like yourself as a young man. While there is no chance for her to become the Supreme Ruler- simply having that experience shaped you into who you are today. You want the same for her.

It's such a surreal feeling watching her grow up- and you hope that one day her husband... woah, maybe going a little too fast there, Dad. You'd like to remain as the only man in her life for at least a few years more. And if you want to avoid dying of boredom before that time comes- you'd better tune out these damn blowhard State Philosophers!

You are now Radjo Berax.

“Lift! Lift you damn Gorilla! The gravity weight isn't even fully powered yet!”

”S-Sure feels like it is, coach!”

“Radjo! Don't drop this fucking weight!”

”I-I can't catch my breath.... ack!”

You end up dropping the weight. You didn't complete the rep.

“Radjo... I'm very disappointed in you. You're never going to clear a record this way.”

”Coach... What am I supposed to do?! I start out fine and then I puff out!”

“Don't start with me, young man! Radjo, you have the genetic talent for this. Your growth patterns are years ahead of the other Alpha-boys of your age, and your muscle endurance is incredible. I got some of these guys sore for a week after our training- and your lactic acids are gone in a day. You have the ability to do this, Radjo, it's just a pure mental game at this point. You need to shape up.”

”How is it a mental game?!”

“It's about discipline! Not in the motion, but in everything else! You aren't doing enough cardio! You aren't getting the right micro nutrients! And your test cycling is all messed up because you're a damn chronic dick twiddler!

”Hmpfh!”
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Well... you certainly aren't getting along with your coach very well. But to be fair, he's not 100% wrong.

Truly, you are a bit distracted. Your heart isn't all the way into it. First, Cijan leaves with the army- along with your father, Jale Berax. The Alpha-Commander, movie star, sex symbol, and all around manly man of the Hegemony leaves you alone- and along with him, your best source of manly man wisdom.

For almost a full year, the Hegemony's fleet was in hyperspace, drifting to sleep in the suspension pods. And in that time, you felt so very isolated from him. You've still got your mom... and you've still got Kima. That's what this is really about. Until one day, you get a long distance QE message.

”Woah! Hi Dad! You look... different!”

“Haha, hi Son! Yeah, we've been getting into some crazy shit over here. These channels are all encrypted, but Cijan is still asking us not to talk about it too much until we get back. We've been blasting Baalathi capsules out of the sky- and they've been keeping me very busy too, haha! How's mom?”

”Oh, you know, same Indigo self. She misses you.”

“Aww, well, tell her I said hi. Oh- I gotta go soon. Anything else you want to tell me about? Anything related to your weightlifting? Or maybe a girl you wanna tell me about~?”

Man, how did he just know? Truth be told, when you first thought about Kima, it was purely a physical attraction. Purely sex, and a fantasy. But now, you feel less and less strongly about that. Now, you just kind of like her for... her. And it sucks even worse, because your Dad is such an Alpha stud, you don't even know what to say about it. Do you think you should... ask him for some advice? You don't think he'll make fun of you, right?

>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to fuck you
>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to love you back
>Say Goodbye
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>>5261870
>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to love you back
If anyone has good romantic advice, it's gonna be Monke Ripley
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>>5261870
>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to love you back
Asking for advice on how to fuck implies a pump or dump. That's not what we really want.
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>>5261870
>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to love you back
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>>5261870
>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to fuck you

Big Radjo is conflicted, but Little Radjo isn’t, and he’s in the driver’s seat now.

“You still pumping those weights son? Good, you’re gonna need those bulging muscles. Now all you need to do is be a badass. Combat training, leadership courses, covert operations, the works. Also, you’re gonna need to kill a ship full of xenos that want munch your face off, that’s nonnegotiable…”
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>>5261870
>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to love you back
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>>5261870
>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to fuck you
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>>5261870
>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to love you back
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>>5261870
>Ask for advice on how to get a girl to fuck you

There is no magic recipe for getting someone to live you, not in a way that will feel satisfying in the long term. You either gel or you don't. Modifying your outward personality or going against instinct to "be more loveable" is a fool's errand.

However, getting a babe attracted, aroused, and intrigued is much more attainable as a general "skillset", and once she is into you, if you have a personality that can hold her attention and DOES gel well... Bam. Monke love.
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>>5262001
I sort of agree but I think that it's more likely that we would get a bad result because that makes Radjo a douche or something.
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>>5262019
Well, the good thing about q quest as opposed to a CYOA or video game is that the QM can read and respond to your intent, not just the raw and unvarnished prompt.
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>>5261870
>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to love you back
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>>5261870
>>Ask him for advice on how to get a girl to love you back
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>>5262152
+1
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"Dad... how do you get a girl to like you?"

"Ohh, so you are having girl troubles, Son? Haha. That's a tough one. See, I took the long road. I never really was good with girls until I met your mother..."

"I don't understand? I thought you were a real lady's man, Dad."

"Oh no Son. I was a total loser. Didn't you know? I was a common laborer, no wealth or status in the Hegemony. Alpha men that age and level in society don't have many long term prospects- I was patient. I was only that ship that discovered the liminals for the first time to help carry around moonrocks, or to act as security in case on of the crew members developed SPACE MADNESS, you know, that kind of thing. But then, I had my chance to shine and ended up getting promoted. I was given more training, people above noticed and rewarded me. Eventually, they introduced me to your mother from the indigo program and we hit it off- I had never been with a women until I was many times your age, my boy."

"But I don't understand... Weren't there girls you liked? Not just, you know, wanted but actually really liked?"

"Well, I guess there were, Son. But I couldn't really do anything about it. The Hegemony still supports the ideal of one man, one woman, for life relationships as being the best for society- even if the real world doesn't always work out that way. I let them pass me by. And a few years from now- girls the same age as you will go quick, Son. Let me give you some advice; if you really, really care about this girl- if you really truly think you can't focus on your career and life first and you absolutely think she's the one- then you need to make sure she knows how you feel and go for it. Don't wait, or else you'll live with regret."

"Hmm. Alright, Thanks Dad. Come back in one piece."

"I will. This I promise. Goodbye!"

You never knew that about your father. The way the Hegemony wants men to enter relationships- older, experienced men married off to young women. It makes more sense now when you consider it. But do you really want to wait until you are an old man? By then Kima will... be with someone else. You don't want that to happen. You need to take your chance.

Finally, you are back to being Kima Dulioan.

Enduring the days of long training, the sores, and the little knicks and cuts- you have finally moved on to lethal strikes. In the Red Room, the AI referee can be turned on and uses a gravity-beam to stop a strike before it goes lethal- piercing the skin and bleeding. It's as close as a fight to the death as you can get. Its nerve wracking, even though you know it's perfectly safe...

Your much taller, stronger sparring partner sweeps his knife towards your face, which would angle into your eyesocket- if not for the instant the machine stops the blow.

"Stop!"

"Haha, I got you, girl!"
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"Wait a moment- look down Garastra. Her delicate knife would have slipped right between your ribs and into your heart. You would have joined her in death!"

"Hmph..."

While you don't think he's pleased to be bested, your teacher nods approvingly at the duel.

"Dulioan, come here. You've made excellent progress- and I think your skills are sharp. For that reason, I'm recommending you continue on to the next stage of Supreme Ruler training."

"W-what?! Really?! But I haven't shown to be "Supreme" here..."

"Yes, and that's quite alright. Cijan is a great man, but he's not the greatest knife fighter ever either. It's not about being the absolute best- the dueling isn't what sets the Supreme apart from the common flock- it's the concentration, will to power, and absolute unshakeable nerve and resolve at the end of a razor's edge. That is the true purpose of a knife. You will still need to practice more- advance past the next few opponents your simulator gives you..."

"I still haven't managed to even come close to matching Eoba yet, Sir."

"W-what? Your simulator gave you him as your first opponent? That's very strange... Anyway, your next assignment will be given to you by a head of interior security..."

It isn't long until you are introduced to your next teacher- the person whose fate is in your hands to determine if you'll continue on with your Supreme Ruler training. She is an older blonde, and looks so sweet and unassuming. She's supposed to be a spy?!

"The Hegemony relies heavily on its information network. AI is one thing; but societal control goes beyond mere data. I am here to teach you the true value of a life- of one of the multitude in the Hegemony."

"I am ready for anything, Mam."

"That's good. This is your mark. He is an Enforcer. You will stalk him for one whole week- learn his schedule, observe his habits, his social quirks, how he tucks his children into bed. As you know, Enforcers are well trained in self defense and to report anything suspicious to their superiors- they give daily reports. If he ever mentions being followed or watcher, or if he mentions a female Jaxtian matching your description anywhere in his report- I will disallow you from continuing to the next stage of your training..."

Your new assignment is... spying? or maybe stalking. You didn't think Supreme Rulers really *did* that. Didn't they have the AI network and spies and everything else to do it for them? Or is there a hidden meaning here?

>Stalk this man stealthily
>Try to infiltrate his friend group and ask about him
>Other? (Write In)
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>>5262914
>Stalk this man stealthily
>Dye your hair blond, bind your chest, try to infiltrate his friend group and ask about him

I think our Gymnastics background makes us more well versed in stealth and stalking, and technically a male blonde shouldn’t come up on the reports.
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>>5262917
This is a good idea, be sneaky about things
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>>5262914
>See how different we can make ourself to our official description - try hair dye, prosthetics, different outfits
>Think about a strong cover identity to create for ourself, and make it one we can keep to reliably, so that we won't give away in social situations who we actually are.
>THEN Try to infiltrate his friend group and ask about him.

>>5262917
Hair dye might work - but chest binding won't serve to disguise us as a male, as not do Jaxtians have a sexual dimorphism of the snout and even for a Jaxtian Kima's is especially feminine. The most it could do is make us appear a flatter-chested female.
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>>5262963
+1
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>>5262917
Hair dye is a good idea but pretending to be male likely won't work. An easy way in is actually his gym schedule. As an enforcer he has to work out and train regularly to stay in top shape and there will be tops of traffic. Get in through his gym in terms of social groups but don't bother to push it too hard as it will be too obvious. He won't have a choice but to reconsider us being a spy because gyms really do have a lot of traffic. However pushing beyond that makes it a lot more obvious and telling.
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>>5262963
+1

There's no point doing chest bindings since there's no way you're gonna confuse us for a man. It's better to look like a totally different woman than crossdressing.
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>>5262963
+1
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>>5262917
Supporting.

>>5262914
>Stalk while disguised as a blonde man

We are now the embodiment of the truest spycraft: the film White Chicks.
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Hmmm, binding her chest might make her look younger and more unasuming. Unless that troubles her breathing and posture, then it would be too impractical to work.

I'm all for dyeing her hair.
But not blonde, blondes are way too rare.

>Dye her hair indigo and stalk.
Indigo is way easier.
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>>5262914
>>5262963
+1 Sounds good.
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>>5263301
+1
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>>5262963
Supporting
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>>5263299
Indigo is easier
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Disguising yourself... as a man? As if you didn't feel boyish enough already. Your mom probably thinks you're a lesbian at this point, much less if you go out dressed up like that.

But to tell the truth... it would actually work. You're about the height of a random blonde man. Plus you have to consider that a random female; disguised or otherwise, trying to break into an all male group of platonic friends to inquire about an already married man... no no, that's too suspicious. They'd assume you were a little homewrecker at best. Mitel is an enforcer- he's a man's man, athletic, and a little hunky if you're being honest...

You practice binding up your chest in the privacy of your bedroom when you notice your pet, Bandit, pawing at his enclosure. ”Aww, what's wrong buddy? Have I been neglecting you? I've just been so busy lately...”

Stroking his fur, you can see how he's changing. You've had him long enough and your old enough to understand that he will some day die, but it's still surreal to feel it. You had him as a little girl and now you're becoming a woman. It's one step for your life, but equal to his entire life. One day, will you be old too, watching children grow up? Your own child perhaps.

You need some necessary supplies. You stop by a market to buy some of the things you need. Fur dye, of course, plus you have another idea to deal with the problem of your feminine muzzle. And who do you run into but one of your dueling partners- the indigo.

“Oh look, it's Dulioan! Funny seeing you here.”
”...I have a first name, you know. It's Kima.”
“Heh, I guess I forgot we have those... you know, the dueling instructor?”
”Yeah. So what's yours?”
“Alet. Alet Takar.”
”So you ARE a Takar. That's so strange- I don't see any green in your muzzle.”
“Ah- yeah. I'm sure the Indigo takes precedence. I wasn't born on Jaxt actually, transferred in from another colony- I'm still getting used to the culture around here.”
”Well, Alet, it was nice to speak to you, but I need to get going.”

He doesn't say anything, just standing there and forcing a smile.
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You don't really like the way he's grinning at you. It was kind of strange, off putting. You think he means well, he just has this weird air about him. Is he thinking impure thoughts about you, or is it some strange indigo-alien DNA thing going on?

”And Kima, might I add- you are looking SO very sexually attractive today. That's what girls like to hear, right?”

Oh, so that's what it is.

”Oh... thanks.”
“Do you maybe want to go hang out some time? We could talk about duels if you want- or my real passion, science. Your father's work is...”
”Listen, Alet, I'm busy and really not interested right now.”
“So... you don't want to date me then?”
”Not a chance.”

You manage to scrap together the last piece of your disguise- a high altitude breathing mask! It is worn by endurance climbers and long distance runners to acclimate to higher altitudes, making their blood more efficient. This mask will cover your mouth and nose, and because of how thin and athletic you are, you already look the part of a training blonde male athlete. Of course, this does mean you'll have to trim down your mane. But with everything together, your disguise is complete!

Now it's time to decide how to tackle this problem. Mitel is an enforcer and will have a busy schedule, but at least he's more of a public figure then most random citizens. You can find the information pretty easily with your own network privileges; what do you want to do first?

>Investigate his home and family (Less dangerous)
>Go to his current location and observe his routine (More direct)
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>>5264057
>Investigate his home and family (Less dangerous)
Remember, if he ever mentions being followed or watched, we're fucked. Let's take the safe option here.
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>>5264057
>>Investigate his home and family (Less dangerous)
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>>5264057
>Investigate his home and family (Less dangerous)
Work our way up to his workout routine.

>wear chest bindings
>you are looking SO very sexually attractive today. That's what girls like to hear, right?
…is this motherfucker in the closet or something?

>We could talk about duels if you want- or my real passion, science. Your father's work is...
No, wait! I didn’t mean it! Please, tell me what’s going on with the science projects! Is dad doing a new project defensive project already? I’ll even let you buy me a banana split! Yea, that’s Kima. Oh so generous.
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>>5264057
>Investigate his home and family (Less dangerous)
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>>5264057
>Investigate his home and family (Less dangerous)
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>>5264057
>>Go to his current location and observe his routine (More direct)
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>>5264067
>…is this motherfucker in the closet or something?
No, just a social sperg. Not very smooth.
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>>5264057
>Go to his current location and observe his routine (More direct)
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>>5264057
>Investigate his home and family (Less dangerous)
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>>5264057
>Investigate his home and family (Less dangerous)

Also, wait: this is a test for a Leadership program. Is there anyone from our social network that we trust enough and who would follow our directions enough to 'emplace' in areas this enforcer visits regularly, just to be a face in the crowd to take a few observations and pass them on to us when he stops by?
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>>5264264
Smart! If so, I support adding this idea of recruiting allies to >>5264198. I still think we should be more direct, though. She that dares, triumphs.

>>5264057
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You decide to go check out his family for the time being- while he's in “work” mode, you suspect he'll be a lot more alert. You know that the Enforcer lives in a Class 6 housing unit, so you find the address online and travel there yourself; without a conspicuous flying machine or hovercycle to draw attention to the neighborhood.

The truth is, sometimes, you have to take a step back and remember that you're basically a princess. Not only is your dad a highly ranked Hegemony official, but with your high genetic level and even being born on Jaxt gives you some advantages and privileges; you sometimes forget how the average Jaxtian lives. Mitel Bolasi is far above the average.

It's a single building, not part of a larger facility or complex. The property includes a small amount of land, growing platforms, and a nearby permaculture in the heart of the city fed by the waste and water of both his and many other houses in the neighborhood. Jaxtians prefer to build upwards because of the ease of climbing, and so his home is multistory. One advantage of having this class of housing is that entire new floors can simply be added on top for especially large families or a reward for service to the Hegemony. Enforcers are paid and supplied well for their service and to ensure loyalty- so his home is also luxuriously furnished, newly decorated, and they can afford to employ a day servant- even among Enforcers, it is clear he is of the upper crust.

His wife is a darling; of a high genetic level, perhaps even higher then Mitel's- did they marry for love? You can tell just by looking at her what kind of woman she is; motivated and focused on her family and mastery of the “inner world” that women like yourself are supposed to care so much about. Her own career was permanently retired when she had her children; and this decision was generously rewarded by the Hegemony's fertility and breeding authority. They have two children; an older daughter who is studying deep space astrology and her son, a rambunctious youth who wants to be “a hero like dad”. She even wears a local woman's community leader badge- a envious position for professional homemakers.

And for Mitel himself? He is a picturesque example of Jaxtian masculinity- able bodied and strong, disciplined, obedient, but always in control. He never yells, is patient, kind, and has clearly never even considered an affair. He does not engage in any kind of anti-social behavior. His demeanor at the gym is one of quiet self determination- never showboating or “shooting the shit with the boys”. He comes home from work every day as soon as possible- spending as much time as he can with his children and wife- who he keeps on ongoing romantic relationship with.

He's perfect. He reminds you of your Dad. You couldn't create a fictional family better to show the Swall on the Hegemony propaganda broadcasts- They're perfect.
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Why do men do the things they do?

Mitel had to undergo great physical and mental training to become an Enforcer. Enforcers are the civilian defense, law enforcement, peacekeeping, and the closest thing the Hegemony has to a standing army. To say its the most demanding job outside of being the Supreme Ruler is an understatement. Constantly on the lookout for enemies- and a zero tolerance policy for failure. Imagine being off your game one day and because of your actions, a civilian dies. Instantly, the reputation of the Enforcers, and the Hegemony as a whole, drops. Such betrayals cannot be easily forgiven or repaid.

Supreme Ruler Kinja Dulioan, your ancestor, said the same. People begin to doubt upon two betrayals. The first can be written off, but the second shows a pattern of behavior- it sows the seeds of doubt. The first can be forgotten like a bad dream, but the second instantly reopens that old wound and shows it out to the light again. To be the face of the all encompassing, all powerful Jaxtian empire- why do men do it?

Is it for the women? No doubt Enforcers are some of the most desired bachelors in the Hegemony. The thought of one being unable to breed- even with a low gene score- is almost unthinkable. At one point, the Enforcers were restricted to only those of a high and preferred gene score anyway- invariably they would be rolled into the breeding program. Even you can't deny a certain... dangerous charm to how Mitel looks in his uniform. How he carries himself; his dominant gaze and sweeping voice.

Is it for the accolades and respect? The money and privilege? Or is it for the power? Enforcers make terrible neighbors. The slightest Anti-Social behavior could and will be reported, cataloged, silently judged and eventually brought against you in a behavioral hearing. The ability to just... make someone you don't like suffer is an intoxicating power that shouldn't exist in civilized society. Of course, that's a hypocritical statement, considering your dad is the Supreme Ruler and all...

Or is it something else? Is there another reason? Something deeper- a strong moral sense of right and wrong? That morality is only funneled and determined by the Hegemony however, not by one's own conscious. Is it patriotism? These are not unintelligent men who have the will to gain power- but yet they are so willing to risk danger, humiliation, and even destroy their own internal self to get access to that power. Their own desires and moral compass thrown aside and stamped into the shape that a greater being determines for them.

”Kima Dulioan. Package delivery.”

That threw you for a trip to hear your real name right now- guess you can't trick a computer. It's a drone- come to give you a... random box? You didn't order anything today!

>What do you think is in the box?
Next update later.
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>>5264387
>Tree-Flowers from that lovable goof, Radjo
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>>5264387
>a gun, the test is to prove that you have it in you to kill a good citizen to be Supreme
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>>5264387
>>5264403 +1
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>>5264387
A maiming trap to test your awareness. Proceed with caution.
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>>5264387
Surveillance devices we have to hide around his house that he won't detect.

>>5264386
>deep space astrology
THIS SMACKS OF DECEDANT SPIRITUALISM!
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>>5264389
Supporting

>>5264387
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>>5264403
+1
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>>5264387
A Handkerchief
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>>5264389
I'll support this.
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>>5264387
>A nut-thief
Schrödinger’s nut-thief.

In all seriousness, it’s probably
>A white stilleto
But I’d love for it to be flowers and chocolates from Radjo or Alet, just to be thrown through the loop.

Kima be like
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lHpHxLZReiI
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>>5264740
I'd definitely prefer it to be the flowers to the hoary old 'shoot this loyal man because state says so' trope. Jaxtians may be authoritarian but they hegemony is also fairly pragmatic, and shooting someone loyal without a reason to target his death is both a betrayal of hegemonic principle and a waste of state resources.
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>>5264387
>>What do you think is in the box?
Ashes of our pet
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>>5264759
>they hegemony is also fairly pragmatic
We literally just voted against that
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>>5264926
We voted against a species -egalitarian understanding of pragmatism, not against ever being pragmatic again... And a vote to teach about the honour inherent to our great race and culture doesn't lend itself well to rewarding loyalty by offing a good, upstanding, useful enforcer for no good reason. That's stupid.
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Where's the hot MONKE sex?
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>>5265014
On Fiverr or Twitter or wherever you decide to commission it.
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You receive the box from the drone. You run your fingers over its length- what could this possibly be? Ideas jump into your mind. Could this be a tool to make your assignment to stalk the Enforcer easier? No- that doesn't make much sense. What if it's a weapon... your knife, or poison- something to kill the Enforcer to prove your loyalty to the state. You don't want it to be that either. But upon opening the box; you find... flowers? Fruits and flowers. It's a gift basket; a common sort of thing sent via drone network. Inside is a message-

Fruit and Flowers,
For a girl more sweet and beautiful,
then the contents therein. -Radjo


...I mean, it's a nice gift, but you don't really get it. Why would Radjo just send you a random box of stuff like that? It's not your birthday or anything. What does this mean?

Wait, does Radjo... like you? Like actually like you like you?! You had no idea! You're flustered. I mean, you knew each other since you were little kids; you just figured he'd always be there. But not that he was... interested. You need to message him and straighten this out.

-Radjo, what the hell is this?-
-Did you get my gift? Did I do something wrong?!-
-No. But why did you send it to me.-
-I wanted you to know how I feel about you.-
-How do you feel about me?-
-Well I mean, I don't know. I like you! Isn't that enough?-
-Radjo, I'm not looking for a relationship right now. My life is so very busy. You have no idea what I have to put myself through just to maintain my level of training in the Supremacy Program.-
-You're right, I don't know. Hope I didn't distract you.-
-Well, you did.-
-I'm sorry.-
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Well, that was a little harsh, Kima. Maybe you should try to spare his feeling a bit. He's not a creep like Alet, you're sure he means well.

-Look Radjo, I'm not mad, but I can't be dealing with this right now, ok?-
-Ok-
-I think you're a nice guy and you've always been a good friend. But right now, we have to stay as just friends. Okay?-
-Is it because of my gene score? Am I not good enough for you? I know I'm not rich or powerful like your family but I really like you and I don't want to lose you just because of who I was born as.-

Oh no.

-Radjo, you're being very insecure about yourself right now. That has nothing to do with anything. You're a good person but just not the right person for me right now. I'm not seeking any relationships with anyone, regardless of who they are. I need to go.-
-Ok, bye.-

You hope he's not too hurt by that exchange; but you can see Mitel and his wife entering the restaurant right now. This is as close as you've ever been able to get to him. Your week stalking the Enforcer is almost up; and this is your last chance to pick up some vital intel...

You manage to snag a seat nearby his booth. You're feeling quite cheeky- Super Spy Kima!

Even from here, you can tell how good their relationship is. He, always yielding and accommodating, and her, always conservative and encouraging. You catch the undertones of his speech; the practiced grace of a trained Hegemonic official, the strained attempt at casual conversation. Enforcers are also required by law to be terrible at small talk.

“...You know, that waiter is carrying a knife from the kitchen in an unsecured pocket. Somebody could get hurt.”
“Oh? Going to report him, or arrest him?”
”I promised I wouldn't bring up work things on our date, and I meant it. Bad enough I had to come in full uniform.”
“It's alright honey.”
”No, it's not. I can't believe they put me on call today; I requested this day off duty...”
“It's okay, I think you look pretty sexy in that.”
”Oh, I do now? Hehe.”

It's cute but, how did he know the waiter had a knife? You don't see...
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Oh no, no no no. Kima, you stupid girl.

His glasses.

Enforcers are equipped with special glasses; they aren't just there for intimidation factor. They block out harmful blinding light and strobe, often employed in riot and illegal gathering policing; but more then that they have AI and scanners within. They have limited X-Ray capabilities, and more importantly, they can identify anyone implanted with a Hegemony Vaccine Microchip. Something you've had in you since you were a baby- like everyone else.

Of course, it doesn't show everyone's information at one time to avoid crowding his vision; but if he focuses his eyes on you for a few seconds the AI will read out your information; and this disguise will be useless. Even worse, he'll know you're really a girl and not a blonde- and it will only look more suspicious that you are dressed in this way!

First, stay calm, and don't draw attention to yourself. Second- you need to find a way to get out of here. You could just wait him out but you get the feeling he'll size everyone up in the restaurant before he leaves; and worse yet, he sat facing the entrance so he can see whoever comes in or out- something Enforcers are always supposed to do. You need a plan.

>Wait just a little bit longer
>Find a way to cause a distraction (Chance to Fail)
>Disable his Eyewear (Dangerous)
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>>5265087
Can we exit through the back kitchen or restroom window? Surely there has to be something like that around.
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>>5265087
Easy.
>Just slip through the doors leading to the kitchen, and to anyone who asks, say that you are escaping an confrontation with your GFs husband.
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>>5265087
>>Disable his Eyewear (Dangerous)
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>>5265013
Who said it would be for no good reason?
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>>5265079
Why are they legally barred from being good at small talk. How do you even enforce that?
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>>5265087
>Find a way to cause a distraction (Chance to Fail)

I assume waiting longer will autofail us?
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>>5265125
Seems like a good way to be accosted for antisocial behaviour, maybe attracting attention. Whihc, you know... Could work.

>>5265087
>Disable his Eyewear (Dangerous)
Make to leave through the kitchen, use the above excuse, start a small commotion, 'accidentally' bump someone to knock them into our mark, then step on the glasses in the commotion. Apologize profusely. Pickpocket a sign that we were able to get within killing distance of him. Leave with the trophy to present.
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>>5265087
>Find a way to cause a distraction (Chance to Fail)
Waiting will just mean he discovers us through casual glancing around. And Disabling his eyewear means the event gets an official write-up, and we make him alert and suspicious.

...Actually, we just received a ROMANTIC DELIVERY, and that distracted us. Could we arrange for the same to his wife?

'To our brave enforcers and their beautiful dates;
from, (restaurant name)/the Jaxtian people.
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>>5265087
>Find a way to cause a distraction (Chance to Fail)
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>>5265261
>Find a way to cause a distraction (Chance to Fail)
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>>5265087
Can we make an emp grenade or something?
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>>5265087
>Disable his Eyewear (Dangerous)
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>>5265261
Ah, good idea.

Order something special for their table and escape in the few seconds of confusion afterwards.
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>>5265261
+1
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>>5265261
Backing. Cause yeah we are screwed otherwise if we go with the other two since apparently there are no bathroom windows and we can't slip out through the kitchen.
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

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Update is being worked on, but have to go back to work for the weekend. See you as soon as I'm able.
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have we had a rolled consequence so far that wasn't 50/50?
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oh no
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>>5266573
Probably not, since we rarely see a roll.
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>>5266541
>>5266573
Let me guess, you NEED more?
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>>5266641
YES.
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You manage to successfully create a distraction in the restaurant.

“What's all this? Who sent us all this food! I did not order this.”
“Aww, come on honey- they love you! I think it's cute.”
”Are these even Jaxtian grubs in this soup? I heard they're imported from Andoen.”
“...Are you really criticizing free food? YOU of all people?”
”Don't you find this a little suspicious?”
“Suspicious? Did you find it suspicious when that nice man paid your transport fare the other day? Or giving you the right of way on the jump pole? You're an Enforcer dear, you make people feel safe.”
”...I guess so...”

And with a that, you take an odd moment to slide out of the resultant, unobserved. It has now officially been a week since you began stalking the Enforcer, and you feel you are prepared for whatever test you have brought upon yourself. Your disguise is no longer useful- though you can't grow your mane back that quickly.

It's difficult to say, exactly, what the point of this exercise was. You learned a lot about Mitel. You know where he leaves, his family, his habits, his voice- but you are trying to think what your instructor meant by the value of a life. Mitel seems a valuable member of the Hegemony- reliable and stable. Is this a test to detect some hidden potential in him the Hegemony already knows about, a skill highly desired by Supreme Rulers- to see the true value in people, or is it something else? How he fits into the social fabric as a whole? The otherwise mundane and even banal concerns of a man who, to most in the Hegemony, is a privileged and empowered elite?
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The next day, you are tasked with traveling to the Hegemonic Ministry of Control in the heart of the city- a gray brick of a building. Often housing high level administrators and their personal staff and other projects; it is where you are supposed to meet with that older blonde female- coincidentally, it where your father worked almost every single day before he became the acting Supreme Ruler. Most high-level Hegemony facilities are multi-functional, and as such this place doubles as a science lab and even prison in its basement.

After a quick climb to the upper levels; walking along the halls towards your appointment room- you hear a pair of low voices discussing something.

“How is your energized suit?”
“It's fine. Field holding. I haven't experienced any trouble since I've gotten to this planet.”
”Sourcing the materials needed for our project?”
“Easy enough too. Locals have exactly what we needed.”
”So the device will be-”
“Installed and functioning the moment of the demonstration. Just as you ordered.”
”Excellent. I know this isn't what you signed up for but-”
“Plans change as new information becomes available. I know. I fully accept the risk.”

...You know, you really shouldn't eavesdrop, especially in such a high level building, but you couldn't resist this time. What are they talking about? That's some juicy intel.

>Sneak into the locker room to see who is talking (Chance of getting caught and in trouble)
>Best not to be late
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>>5267501
>Sneak in
She who dares, triumphs!
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>>5267501
>Sneak into the locker room to see who is talking (Chance of getting caught and in trouble)

I sense some fuckin' traitor talk.
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>>5267513
Shit, is this the Cyte? Fuck.
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>>5267501
>Sneak into the locker room to see who is talking (Chance of getting caught and in trouble)
I was about to say it wasn't worth the effort, but then i noticed
>locals
Who the fuck is not a local? This is Jaxt - they couldn't just be offworld jaxtians or hegemony aliens either, because if it were, they wouldn't be referring to them as local.

This is really suspicious
>>5267518
That seems like an over reaction - considering how they were treating it, the cyte seems like it's going to be way more of an serious threat than just a guy in a room who needs a suit to even be in the planet in the first place. With it's name, i honestly expect the cyte to be a straight up flood-tier 'horror from beyond'


This could very well just be some other alien foreigner.
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>>5267534
I dunno, man- they both look like Indigos to me in the picture, which makes me think they might be worm-ridden.
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>>5267537
Not necessarily. We don't have the full picture.
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>>5267501
>>Sneak into the locker room to see who is talking (Chance of getting caught and in trouble)

>>5267534
>>5267537
If this is anything, it's the 'Indigo Supremacy' guy doing something. Recall that his proposed Science project was energised ship armour and that he was Astronaut Lead, so some sort of energised space/armour suit isn't too far out of his expertise.
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>>5267501
>Sneak into the locker room to see who is talking (Chance of getting caught and in trouble)
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>>5267598
>If this is anything, it's the 'Indigo Supremacy' guy doing something
But then why the hell would he say 'locals' and imply that he's not from this planet?
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>Send a text to Mitel about these possible traitors who look like indigos, act like non-Jaxians, and talk about pulling one over on the 'locals'. Daddy might not take us seriously, but Mitel will. We're higher in the hierarchy than he is. Could do Blondie instead if we have her tag. Spotted in A24, moving in to investigate.

>then sneak in
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>>5267711
Sensible precaution, which I would like to add to my vote at >>5267503

>>5267501
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We could always try to listen in from beside the doorframe out of the line of sight of these two.
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>>5267501
>Sneak into the locker room to see who is talking (Chance of getting caught and in trouble)
Totally the indigo supremacist guy.
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>>5267501
>Sneak into the locker room to see who is talking (Chance of getting caught and in trouble)

Around Indigos, never relax...
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>>5267711
>Sneak into the locker room to see who is talking (Chance of getting caught and in trouble)
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>>5267702
Because the Hegemony is a multi-star system entity that occupies other planets even within the home system?
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>>5267501
>Sneak into the locker room to see who is talking (Chance of getting caught and in trouble)

These are the two Statocracy abduction chucklefucks aren’t they?
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>>5267501
>>Sneak into the locker room to see who is talking (Chance of getting caught and in trouble)
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Rolled 2 (1d2)

"...We'll be getting a bonus for this, right?"
"Oh, of course. This is a pretty big deal. Removing the anti-nuclear capability of the Hegemony will greatly smooth over any issues in the future. We're working out the final figures now; but 550 Billion CCs is the ballpark."
"Damn!"
"Your family, naturally, will receive 1%."
"Oh I know- that's more then enough for them all to live comfortably."

That voice is so familiar... is that Alet? He doesn't have a "family", he's the same age as you! What the hell is going on- you sneak just a little bit closer...
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Man... you guys are way too fucking lucky this thread lol.
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>>5268353
It is the power of ALTHETIC FEMALE GIRL, my man. This is how she balances out being physically weaker.

Being stupidly lucky.
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>>5268353
TomboySupremacy4life
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”Your window is in twenty minutes. The device must be installed discretely on the atomic-weapon-nullification-field machine. It will disable the field generator- causing Hwat and anyone else in the room to receive lethal doses of radiation.”
“Understood... But I found it troublesome to come here so early to meet you in person. This is a pretty high value cover I have here...”
”We can't rely on digital communication; the Jaxtian AI is just too good nowadays. Your counter-AI core will be your only security and safety net; it can only dodge the network's control and monitoring algorithms for so long. So don't get caught by an actual person!”

It is Alet, the Indigo Supreme Ruler candidate. Is he a traitor? And who was the other man? You think they're about to break up- time to get out of here. Thankfully, your trained gymnast footfalls are too sneaky for them to have heard you!

With that information in hand, you move into the hallway outside the locker room and suddenly realize exactly what you heard- sabotage! Intentional sabotage! And a plot to kill your father- the acting Supreme Ruler! Assassination! This could be huge! But hold on; what... what should you actually do here? It's making you nervous- this is an actual dissident, security situation. All Jaxtian citizens are taught to report anything suspicious or anti-social directly to the nearest Enforcer or AI assistant. You have your phone in your pocket you could pull out for just such a thing- but then again...

The saboteurs mentioned they have counter-AI that can combat the main AI network used by the Hegemony- it probably couldn't stop the full might of it- but it might have enough blind spots to give them a chance to escape or finish a part of their plan. Reporting this directly to the network might send it into high alert and mobilize guards- which would give a lot more advanced warning to the spies.

Second; your father is the Supreme Ruler for crying out loud. You could just call him, warn him, and let him take care of it in a stealthy and covert way- it might be done so good that the spy network could track down whoever this older saboteur is- but you'd be relying on your dad and basically asking for his help. Of course, you don't think he'd think any less of you but...

Truthfully, you feel as though your “legitimacy” as a Supreme Ruler candidate has never been fully established yet. Even by your father, but especially by others- women just aren't seen as that heroic, forward thinking, dominant sort that can rule the Hegemony. Perhaps... Perhaps you could catch this agent red handed, and apprehend him yourself? It would go against a ton of Hegemony protocols, but by doing so, you could gain eyes on you.

What should you do?
>Alert official network
>Contact your father directly
>Stop Alet yourself
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>>5268395
>Contact your father directly
Sounds like the most reasonable choice, letting them escape out of vanity wouldn't be good.
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>>5268395
>>Stop Alet yourself
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>>5268395
>Contact your father directly
Honestly, telling him that someone is trying to FUCKING ASSASINATE HIM and SAVING HIS LIFE BECAUSE OF THAT is more important than jerking ourselves off by trying to stop him one on one.
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>>5268395
>Contact your father directly

Stopping this plot is the important thing, and we have a GREAT direct contact to do so. Let's not put our personal pride above the safety of the state and our father.
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>>5268415
>CCs

Ohh, darn... this is the Consortium behind this move, isn't it? I'm guessing this sum is something like 'Consortium Credits'. And whilst we may not know much about the consortium, one of the few things we know is that one of their species ALSO seemed to be some variety of Monkey...
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>>5268395
>Contact your father directly
Are you really going to risk your own father's life just to get some stupid glory?
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>>5268395
>Contact your father directly
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>>5268395
>Call qnd warn Hwat
>THEN attempt to stop Alet yourself

One more dice roll! I believe in us.
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>>5268395
>>Contact your father directly
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>>5268395
>Contact your father directly
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>>5268395
>>Contact your father directly
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>>5268407
>Contact your father directly
Changing since no one wants more stealth tomboy action. But if he tries to eliminate the evidence then we need to stop him.
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>>5269027
I do. We should just ALSO warn Hwat.
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>>5268351
This guy totally cloned an army of himself, didnt he?
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>>5269050
Seems unlikely to me, as he's bribing this guy while talking about setting his family up for life.
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>>5268395
>Stop Alet yourself

Stealth Tomboy! FOR GLORY!

Plus, we have an… in, with Alet. *shudder*
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>>5268395
>Contact your father directly
This is serious shit, no time for heroics.
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>>5268395
>Alert official network
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You decide to contact your Father instead of the Hegemony directly.

”Kima- get someplace to hide quick! Idiots decided to hatch a plot in the Hegemonic Control building- ha! There are already a good hundred Enforcers in the building. I'll be right there to begin the interrogations myself...”

Within mere seconds, the building is swarmed with drones, scanning every floor and every room- even if the spies were contortionists, they couldn't hide from the full building lockdown. The Enforcers stormed in next, armed with shotguns- but truly with intent to capture.

Outside, your father waits for you. He arrived in only a few minutes; a transport skiff brought him here in seconds. It seems he trusted your judgment enough to not think you were only pulling his leg.

”Profligate! Who- or what do you work for?! The Hegemony has you know- there is no escape from me. We can keep you alive as long as we need- your punishment is endless torture- until we get what we need! The more cooperate, the faster I will end your worthless life. Speak!”

”Ooww! Fuck! Ouch!”

As it turns out; neither of the men are Jaxtians. They are actually aliens from the Consortium! The collection of stars and species, tightly bound together by business contracts and political lubrication by the omnipotent space worms, has sent spies to subvert and steal the secrets of the Hegemony. But their most daring plot, and the one that you ended up foiling, was one to disable a safety feature of your father's anti-nuclear-weapon technology, likely causing his death and the death of many top inventors and scientists, as well as discrediting the technology, weakening the Hegemony.

”Spies! On Jaxt!”

The aliens wore skin suits- using highly cloned and modified Jaxtian DNA. The Hegemony has no idea where they accessed it in the first place; but due to how unusual it was, the aliens chose to imitate Indigos as their DNA will be less obviously “Jaxtian” at a glance. On top of this, they used advanced AI technology to hide their actions and create false persona; Alet Takar isn't a real person; the aliens invented him after many of the Takar were shamed when one of their sons dueled the Supreme Ruler and fled from the homeworld to regain some face.

”If there are more- we'll find them!”
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”Oh Kima... I hope you didn't think I forgot you. Are you alright?”
”Yes, Father. I just couldn't believe what I was hearing- and I thought contacting you personally would be a better option...”
”Perhaps it was. I'm just glad you're alright- just think, my child fighting traitors and spies!”
”Would you... have wanted me to fight them?”
”Oh good lord no, sweetheart. Don't even joke about that. If even a single hair on your head got hurt... wait, did you shave your mane?!”

Well, it looks like because of your actions; you caught the spies and foiled the plot of alien spies against the Hegemony. However, you don't think you've gained any “respect” for reporting in these dissidents- you're still underneath your father's shadow. He still considers you just a child, not a fully fledged, professional woman who could rule the Hegemony some day... but you guess you shouldn't be too picky.

Soon later, you arrive to meet with the Blonde Spymaster.

“Are you sure you're ready for this after the big scare today? If you need some time first-”
”No Mam. I am ready.”
“Well, that's good. That means I don't need to reschedule this...”

She looks over her phone, giving you a polite smile.

“I've looked over Mitel's weekly reports. No mention of being followed, or of you- by name or description. I think you've passed that part of the test.”
”That part?”
“Mhmm. I only told you to follow him for a week to get to know him. He's here now. Don't worry- this is one way glass.”

She opens a screen to reveal a glass chamber- with Mitel standing within looking bored. Next to him is a locked case with one of those Enforcer guns...

“This is the real reason I told you to follow Mitel. This is your lesson; and your test. You need to know the value of a life. Mitel's life is well documented- predictable. He's of a very common social class- there are millions of Enforcers just like him. Almost all of them have wives and families. Almost all of them live in nice houses. He's a little past his mental and physical peak- still very effective and strong, but he's not going to be breaking any athletic records past this point, nor inventing some great technology. The average Jaxtian never will- that is the business of Supreme Rulers. The AI algorithm has already predicted everything he can and will achieve in his life- his contributions to the Hegemony. His work, his impact in his community, in the life of his wife and three children. It can already predict exactly how many sick days he'll take, the number of resources he will consume, when he will ask for retirement- everything. Has anything I said sound wrong to you?”
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”...Mitel has two children.”

“Are you sure about that? His wife is pregnant with the third.”

”How could you possibly-”

“We KNOW Kima. We don't have scanners inside his wife's body or anything- but we know it. YOU know it. Mitel is reliable. At his age and level of testosterone, he will have sex with his wife once a week. She ordered a fertility drug and looked up knowledge about raising children of many different ages- the child was conceived last night, after his “date”.”

What does this have to do with anything?!”

“What I'm trying to explain to you is that Mitel, his family, his life, is an asset. It can be valued and weighed. Everything Mitel is can be broken down into numbers- that goes for every single member of the mighty Hegemony. You and me. Perhaps even the Supreme Ruler... And his value as a person may now be best served as a corpse.”

The Blonde woman presses a button that reveals what is locked down in the glass case with Mitel- a massive ferret-like monster that you only know from your digital textbooks- a Gnarra!

”Are you going to make him fight that thing!?”
“No no, not fight. He will die, that isn't up for debate. The Gnarra is evolved to hunt Vetuckers, three times as heavy as poor Mitel here...”
”W-why? How can this possibly help the Hegemony?!”

The blonde smiles, as though you finally asked the right question.

“It isn't about a matter of positive or negative anymore. When you rule a stellar empire, or any powerful nation, you don't think in one or the other. Everything is a cost and a benefit- it all comes down to number. Value. Life has a value. Though we intelligent beings value life; it is not sacred. We have the tools to determine the value exactly. The Enforcer will work for many decades more, and act as a role model to his children. This is his primary remaining value. If you account for how much value he can give the Hegemony in both of these assets, you can calculate his worth. His life is worth one million DanboMarks.”

”So- doesn't the Hegemony want to keep him alive then?! He's worth a whole million!”

“And you know what else is worth a million? The vital data his death will earn. How long will he survive, unarmed, against the Gnarra? Four seconds, and we have a contender to be added to the civil control and as a weapon of war. If he lasts six or eight, perhaps a trained attack animal- any more and they'll be too expensive to feed and care for. How long will his armor last? That information is vital as well. It is a cost versus benefit analysis- people are pawns, interchangeable, and expendable. Any feelings of empathy or compassion will cripple you as a Ruler.”
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”You're.. You're only doing this to test me! To see if I can order the death of my own people! That's what this is! I don't want Mitel to die...”

“He doesn't have to. You always have a choice. You can unlock and allow him to fire his gun. Of course, we'll lose out on that research, but be able to recoup some from the body of the Gnarra, and the critical information- but we can recoup some losses. That data will be worth one million DM otherwise...”

”Wait- a million, right? So they are exactly the same! Their value is the exact same!”

“Mhmm. But you're forgetting something- the gun. Mitel will fire his gun exactly once into the creature's central nervous system- this is how Enforcers are trained to kill lethal threats. The electrical energy to power his weapon's magnetic array is almost free with our fusion generators, so that doesn't account to much. The magnetic slug, made of a super-dense material similar to iron, will have a very small chance to dent on impact, which means it can simply be melted down and recycled. But every time that weapon is fired; the magnetic rings inside its barrel will displace slightly; about once every two thousand shots or so- these weapons will need maintenance. It will take a low grade technician only five or ten minutes to realign the magnetic rings. So a slight chance to deform the ammunition, a negligible power cost, one in two-thousandths worth of a single person's work shift... Do you know what that equals to? One Mark. It costs one mark more to keep him alive.”

”I- I don't... I could pay that myself-”

“No, you can't. There are one hundred and eighty billion Jaxtians, don't be stupid, girl. You understand what this means. There is an optimal choice here. What is yours?”

You feel tears running down your cheeks. You don't want to kill him; this kind man who has never done anything to you- you like him. You like his kids, and his wife, and how she leaves out his lunch in a little pattern, or how she waters the flowers on the west side of her house in the morning so she can avoid the afternoon sun... It will ruin them all. You don't want to make a choice at all.

>Allow Mitel to defend himself and survive
>Let Mitel die
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>>5269765
>Allow Mitel to defend himself and survive
The Sword of Damocles is heavy indeed. Truth is, Kima was never going to be Supreme solely due to the age factor - they'd have to kill both Cijan and Hwat for the position to be even open

Kima is way too nice to be Supreme Ruler.
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>>5269765
>Let Mitel die
I'm not exactly sure what the right choice here is but solely to play devil's advocate (since I predict most people are going with the survive option), one life isn't worth losing valuable data.
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>>5269770
>one life isn't worth losing valuable data.
Well, personally, i would say that killing an perfectly fine enforcer is a bit of a waste given how stupidly advanced our artificial intelligence is, but it's not just an solely value-based thing

Kima just doesn't seem like someone who would agree with the complete lack of the morals that the hegemony has. The Hegemony literally executes people for so much as questioning or insulting the supreme leader - she just doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would do that.
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>>5269765
>>Let Mitel die
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>>5269765
>Allow Mitel to defend himself and survive
If we forsake our people we aren't worthy to be a Supreme Leader.
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>>5269779
Fair enough, I suppose. I'm mostly just arguing for the sake of it so it isn't just a landslide. I'm fine with saving his life if it comes to it.

Also c'mon. Why would you gun for the Supreme Leader position if you don't want to deal with this kind of stuff?
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>>5269765
>Allow Mitel to defend himself and survive
>"The AI's not always right, Mam. I choose to invest in the Jaxtian spirit and ability to beat the odds, even in the numbers game. Maybe Mitel will do something big and unexpected, or maybe him being around will make his new child into someone more important than they would've been."
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>>5269765
>Let Mitel die
A Supreme Ruler must be able to do hard sacrifice.
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>>5267711
Oh yeah just call it in no need to take matters into our own hands

+1
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>>5268395
How is Alert the same as as the daughter of another Supreme Ruler candidate?
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>>5269796
dude this was two days ago.
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>>5269788
+1
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>>5269765
>Allow Mitel to defend himself and survive
Bitch is delusional. They already wasted MUCH more resources to arrange this whole cancer and get the worm here, effectively rendering this entire dumb game completely pointless. And then they will have to take care/dispose of his wife/children after his death, yadda yadda yadda.
Maybe we should shoot her FOR wasting OUR precious time and nerves, instead?
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>>5269765
"You speak like a capitalist, Ma'am, stating the price of everything but not knowing the value of loyalty, of patriotism; of abandoning the great fight against entropy for petty financial gain. Oh, sure, I would gladly order Mitel honestly to his death if though his actions he would secure resources, take worlds, defend the Jaxtian people from alien aggression. But by my judgement, here and today, the price of abandoning our society's great ideals and killing this man by reluctantly accepting the victory of entropy would not be worth a million DM. You certainly cannot buy it for the pittance of a single Mark."

>Allow Mitel to defend himself and survive
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>>5269788
Support. Besides, have we accounted for the cost of lost potential and productivity as his wife mourns, and must raise her new children without their father as a role model? The instructor touched on it, maybe, but then what about the loss of trust? Our ancestor, Supreme Leader Kinja, would not have done this thing. Neither will we. It makes us no less Supreme.

>>5269765
>Allow Mitel to survive
>if he seems to be losing, join the fray
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>>5269788
+1
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>>5269842
Adding to this, how good can the AI be, if it let a Consortium goon in a skinsuit into goddamn SUPREME RULER training. Threemind still has REMARKABLE blind spots.
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>>5269765
>Allow Mitel to defend himself and survive.
A ruler's duty is to their people. Noblesse oblige. To throw away a life for so little is to irresponsibly use a subject's life.
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>>5269765
>Let Mitel die
This isn’t about abstracted costs or other such rationale nonsense used to justify this, this is about being willing to kill your own subjects to further advance the Hegemony. This is about getting blooded for the job. You kill an unknown face, it’s less impactful. Killing a man you admire, a man with a lovely family, a man like your own father… that changes you on a fundamental level. It’s less about the bullshit rationale, and more about the willingness to kill a beautiful life in order to lead the Hegemony, and the costs in doing so. Though it may seem like bullshit, this test may prove the Gnarra’s usefulness in war as a battle combatant, potentially saving lives of millions of Enforcers like Mitel, and making security and war easier.

The real test is… can you bear to see and deal with the costs of your decisions?
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>>5269765
>Allow Mitel to defend himself and survive.

"I find your assessment of the pure cost irrational, the mere fact that an asset of this worth has been put into this situation where it would cost one mark more to keep him alive is inane. Such testing could easily be performed upon political dissidents and criminals or within a virtual simulation. While I do not reject the implication the test itself is flawed."
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>>5269941
To be fair , if we're testing then for combat it makes sense to train them against soldiers. The AI calculated one who has expended most of his use in the field
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>>5270260
True, but with the number of Jaxtians we have planetwide, there's bound to be a bad apple thrown up by the Enforcer corps every so often even if they're far from the norm in the organisation as a whole. Using one of these 'bad apples' would allow us to see the exact same combat scenario skillswise without sacrificing a valuable and useful Enforcer instead.

Blonde Spymaster is presenting us a choice of killing the guy worth 1,000,000 marks or using up resources they state will be worth 1,000,001 - but it's a false sum. The choice is not a binary one no matter how much Blonde Spymistress is trying to present it as one right now. We could gain the 1,000,000 marks of research data by using a lesser enforcer 'asset' of assessed value closer to 5,000 DM, and potentially even lower the more this enforcer's failings have been costing society elsewhere. Plus of course 1 DM for the gunshot. Which means that by keeping Mitel alive we're actually saving our society 994,999 DM or potentially an even greater sum.
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>>5269765
>Allow Mitel to defend himself and survive
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>>5270260
>>5270340
If we're being anal about it, then I'd also like to add that using one of best units will result in data that does not represent average enforcer skills and using it in the field would put us at a slight disadvantage. If this whole scenario was designed with sole purpose of testing us, then the number autism is nothing more but an overly elaborate excuse, which invalidates it in my eyes.
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>>5269765
>>Allow Mitel to defend himself and survive
He will raise his children. To be even more effective Enforcers. that will make him worth more. A trainer to his sons.
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”Can't.. can't you get someone else? A criminal, or an old person..”
“No Kima, we need a warrior for this. If you or I was put in there, we'd probably just curl up into a ball; Mitel is strong and able, and he will fight back as best as he can.”
”But why him? It's betrayal-”
“Kima- there are millions of Enforcers, just like him. If it wasn't him, it would be someone else. That is the reason why I told you to stalk him- he was randomly selected. Every single person the Hegemony controls is an individual, with their own life, goals, and dreams- and all are expendable. None are sacred. The Supreme Ruler must be ready to send hundreds, thousands, or millions to their death without a shred of remorse. Imagine a planet struck with a bioweapon; it would need to be quarantined- not a single person among billions allowed to leave. Do you think the Hegemony isn't prepared for this situation?”
”No- I won't do it. I refuse to put someone's life down to a number!”
“Hmm?”
”Open the gun case! Let him survive!”
“...As you wish. Computer, make it so.”

With that, the gun is released and Mitel arms himself. Moments later, the glass cage opens, and the Enforcer blasts the Gnarra dead in a single shot, just as predictd.

”Threat eliminated.”
The computer chimes in with a fake confirmation message.

“Congratulations, you have succeed this special weapons test. You are being rewarded with a commendation for alien combat readiness.

”Wow... Well, whoever organized this test- thanks!”

And that's it- someone who has never met you face to face, and who will never know your name, gets to live the rest of his life- all because of your choice.
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”Okay... So what happens now?”
“Hmm? Or- you're talking about your Supreme Ruler training? You fail.”
”W-wha-”
“Oh please, don't act surprised. You put your empathy above your duty. I'm passing along that you failed my test- you will not continue on with your training. It's done.”
”...So what, all the “real” Supreme Rulers just forsake their own people? Toss them away like trash?”
“Yes, they did. Well, I can't speak for Cijan, as I didn't teach him. But I did teach your father... and he passed his test.”
”You mean he-”
“The circumstances aren't the exact same, no, but he didn't hesitate. When you ask him to force you along the training schedule despite my wishes, maybe then you can ask him what his test was. I won't tell you, I'd rather you learn it from him.”
”...I don't like your tone.”
“I don't like you. Spoiled Mainlander brat. Dressed up in man's clothes, pretending to hold a knife, making a mockery of the sacred traditions of the Hegemony. I knew you would fail this test the moment I laid eyes on you. Get out of my sight.”

You feel the tears again as you rush back home; back to your safe place. And just like that; Kima's journey to become the Supreme Ruler is over.

Of course, life goes on. You knew you weren't going to be the Supreme Ruler anyway- if not from your sex, but simply because of the timing. It was over before it started. Maybe you just never had the makings anyway.

...But what did the Blonde woman meant? She gave your father a test like that? Did your father just... kill someone to advance the Hegemony? Throw them away for a tiny amount of gain? The way she said it made it sound like he was even more cold and callous then you could imagine him being.

>Ask your Father about his test
>It's best not to know
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>>5270708
>>It's best not to know
deep down we already know
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>>5270708
>Ask your Father about his test

Fucking autists ruining a good thing yet again.
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>>5270740
Hey who says the Supreme is the only way to change the Hegemony for the better?

>Ask him about the test
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>>5270708
>Ask your Father about his test
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>>5270708
Thank goodness. No female Supreme. Whew!
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>>5270781
Kinja was my favourite Supreme, so knowing his descendant failed to achieve that goal for following his own example feels kino. Wonder what she'll make of her life now?
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>>5270708
>Ask your Father about his test

Honestly, remembering how passive early Hwat was - 'either it happens or it doesn't' - makes me wonder if he approached his test in the same way - 'either that guy dies or he doesn't.' Because - and this is the failing of this test to determine LEADERSHIP credentials - if you just let the person die there was no actual leadership action you took at all. There's no need to prove you can actively ORDER someone noble and worthy to their death if that would just be the default of the test going ahead without interruption. Just a 'meh I guess I'll throw up my hands and accept the status quo' technically grants a pass, whilst taking a leadership decision and stopping the loss of a Jaxtian asset counts as a fail.

...In other words, the test is bad and the Hegemony official who came up with it should be ashamed of themselves for 'planning' a test that really proves nothing about the true capabilities of a candidate to order someone into danger or certain death for the good for the state.
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>>5270708
>Ask your Father about his test

>>5270740
We were too old and the supreme was too young. Wasn't going to happen anyway unless a shit ton of Top Command structure died abruptly.

>>5270876
It's a shitty test due to how clearly biased it is with a capitalistic angle it was going with in terms of cost vs loyalty and Supreme candidacy testing quality. A much more worthwhile test would be demanding a Supreme candidate to choose who died depending on their abilities and numbers involved. Kinda like who do you let get run over by a train test except for members of the population would actually die depending on your choices. It would also serve to evaluate which Supremes prioritize more AND help screen out the neurotic psychos which THIS method clearly does jackshit to stop. Which previous Supremes were struggling to stamp out considering how crippling those neurotic psychos have been on the entire Hegemony because of their ability to climb the ranks.
This test ALLOWS those neurotic Psychos monkes to get on the fast track for promotion. How many Supremes have been trying to stop that from happening again this entire time?

I mean seriously what do you learn about the candidate from this test besides whether not a Monke is a heartless psycho or empathic for a loyal Hegemony servant whom you SHOULDN'T want sacrificing without damn good reason? Isn't that what the more 'disposable' members of the Hegemony are slated for who are not such good and loyal monkes? With god awful tests like this for Supreme Candidates, we are absolutely going to get more neurotic psychopaths who are going to do crippling damage to the Hegemony just like before. Nevermind the fact that a girl monke Kima literally just stopped that from happening and preventing the assassination of top personnel of the hegemony including the Acting Supreme by a neurotic psycho monke turned traitor. Who is now disqualified by such a shitty test(not to mention Threeminds AIs failed yet again to notice this problem)
Kima may not be Supreme material but she is most definitely worthy among the highest ranks of Hegemony. Who rightfully prioritized loyal and valuable subjects over her own ambitions and glory. Playing the Hegemony as a whole above herself which is the entire point of the Supreme and what they are supposed to be interested in. Ironically that made Kima more qualified than the rest of those 'Supreme Candidates' put together. When it came down to the wire she was the only one who understood this fact. A real shame too Kima would likely have made an amazing Supreme for realizing something so vital so early on in life.
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>>5270876
>>5270894
The test wasn’t flawed, but the explanation was. I think everyone here understands sacrifices must be made in order to secure the Hegemony’s future, but putting it in such petty arbitrary economic terms clearly set off some autistic response instead of a thought out decision based upon morality vs pragmatism. I do feel robbed of the opportunity to continue our candidacy training, but I guess that I’ll just have to live with it.
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>>5270894
>This test ALLOWS those neurotic Psychos monkes to get on the fast track for promotion
You know this isn't the only test right? Being able to sacrifice their people is but one quality of a Supreme. I'm sure there would be subsequent tests to weed out the neurotic and power hungry.
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>>5270708
>It's best not to know
It was obvious that the whole thing was about being able to make sacrifices.
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>>5270708
>>Ask your Father about his test

As always, you faggots cannot help but ruin what would've been a cool Supreme.
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