Different?

>Contract Employer: AECI Limited
>Objective: Rescue the AECI Regional Director

Oh holy shit.

Background: This just got dropped on us and we're going to have to move fast to succeed. AECI has recently had several members of its regional sales team abducted while touring mining facilities in the border town of Musina. AECI is apparently being blackmailed by some form of renegade group, looking to acquire both explosives and chemical weapons. They have been transported north, to a rebel held compound in Zimbabwe, which means that the options for South Africa, militarily at least, are out the window. AECI cannot, obviously, accede to the rebel demands, and the Zimbabwean government is dragging its heels on the diplomatic front, so we're being contracted to perform a rescue operation. Due to the rushed nature of this, we have not been able to secure and sanitize an airfield for your aircraft, so they will remain at their present location under guard. Instead, we have set up a small field strip west of Musina, it's a completely unprepared strip, so big jets are out of the question.

The current plan involves a rapid airborne assault on the suspected location of the hostages, here, -21° 54' 12.13", +30° 32' 50.75". You will be bringing in eight soldiers of the ex-Koevoet force, who will sweep the compound and organize the hostages. Your primary mission is to ensure the AECI regional director makes it out of that camp safely. If you can find and rescue additional hostages, AECI has offered to pay out above and beyond contracted terms. The further details of the plan will be left to your Squadron, but I must emphasize that time is of the essence if we hope to have any chance of locating the hostages before they are moved to a more secure location.
We are coordinating with several shipping companies, and will have your selected airframes operational at the forward base by the time you arrive. Dash Ones will be sent to the printer onboard the waiting Yak-40 that will be transporting you to the Musina aerodrome. Please ensure you pass your purchase orders to the requisitions rep before departing, her number is on the back of your briefing document.

>>10715837
Oh shit. This is just like the mission in AC5 when we had to escape Sand Island in fucking training jets.

Good luck, OP.

Fuck yeah!

Wait, OP and his team aren't working for the Russians any longer?

HUMINT: We only know the location of the hostages, counts of enemies are unreliable, but currently stand at a minimum of twelve on the compound.
ELINT: None available
SATINT: Will be available on landing at Musina if purchased.
Air Assets: Zimbabwe has J-7 fighters, but it is doubtful that they will pose a problem.
Surface Assets: Unknown at campsite, border units comprise mostly small arms.

Threat Assessment: Low. The guards are mostly off-duty border soldiers, with limited combat experience.

>>10715883
No, we flew for the Legion a week ago, I posted that thread a day and a bit ago I think. The Russian contract was finished with Verdant Mace.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/10676512/

>-21° 54' 12.13", +30° 32' 50.75"

Has anyone checked these coords in Google Maps?

It's interesting.

Sounds interesting.

>>10715909
I always check the coordinates, their GM seems to actually take his time when he does them, it's freaky.

>>10715884
>Air Assets: Zimbabwe has J-7 fighters, but it is doubtful that they will pose a problem.

Doubtful that they are in flying condition.

>>10715938
More than that, these missions have details in them that always seem to speak of some sort of insider information, and they all have the feel of black ops that could really go down.

Like this, a company hiring a PMC to break international law and go forcefully retrieve their employees.

So you guys gotta purchase some cheap STOL aircraft for this mission?

Too bad the Frogfoot got destroyed, that could've worked on that landing strip.

>>10715938
Actually, I meant that there's something that looks suspiciously like a camp EXACTLY AT THOSE COORDS

So, Harrier and F-4s?

>>10715976
It says they are setting up a strip, I think the Musina one I'm looking at is not it, it looks paved.

I'm thinking, turboprops at the very most, and since this is an extraction mission, helicopters.

>>10715981

It's basically accepted at this point that Great GM Steve has intel connections.

>>10715995
F-4's from a crummy and short strip?

You best be joking.

Who is AECI?

>>10716012
Broncos and Super Tucanos maybe?

>>10715896
Wait... what was the result of Verdant Mace?

PLANES AND FUCKING MERCS!

THIS IS THE BEST DAY EVER!

>>10716051
I know nothing about planes.

But still, perfect excuse for at least 1 Harrier. Because you could pack the fucker full of Brimstones and royally piss off everyone on the ground.

>>10716079
War Crimes, as usual ;)

But seriously, it's up on Suptg as well as the forum, go check it out :)

>>10716051

Saab Viggens?

>>10716072

inb4 Pucaras

>>10716079
http://s1.zetaboards.com/PlanesAndMercs/single/?p=203696&t=3244110

Maybe Super Tucanos?

>>10716087
Awesome, but fucking expensive as well.
Price might be something to consider as well seeing as it's likely OP's group won't be using these planes after this mission (or at least not for a while).

I think the strip is 2000~3000 ft long, I am asking Steve for clarification.

>>10716054

AECI are a Zimbabwean corporation, focused on mining (including explosives) and manufacture.

I would put a large sum of money on a uranium deposit being involved.

>>10716151
STOL planes only.

Pictured might be useful.

>>10716200

...how does he always come up with a real, slightly shady sounding, company when needed?

Because the alternative is that he's been seeding these web domains for years in preparation for this game.

>>10716200
You mean South African.

>>10716200
OP's group with uranium.
What could possibly go wrong?

>>10716108
So.... Russians let them go?

>>10716262
Russians were pleased as pigs in shit by the group's work in Georgia.

>we have to launch a sneak attack and rescue mission on a tiny little camp full of Zimbabwean fuckasses to get back the head staff of a SA mining company. There may be uranium involved

This is sounding more and more like a fucking Belkan plot gone horribly real.

>>10716273
And Georgia fell to the Russians, right?

Op, you the fucking man! I've copied your mission logs and bring them on flights to read during the boring parts.

>>10716293
Well, the Russians are there as 'peacekeepers' so read into that how you want to.

>>10716237
I only wish my DM was one tenth as good as this guy apparently is. I love doing google searches on this shit and being like "Holy Fuck, this is real?"

There are so many ways this could go wrong.

>>10716072
>>10716101

Thoughts, OP?


Viggens might be an option, as >>10716099
said, although maybe a tad expensive for single use planes
Speaking of the Viggen:
>>Cool Viggen STOL sequence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpxz_-ELi6U

And now we just wait for the real knowledgeable planefags to roll in and start discussing WEAPON OF CHOICE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMZwZiU0kKs

Mine isn't allowed. ;_;

>>10716361
That is what makes this so delicious!

On the bright side, at least they aren't going to run into a Solo Wing Pixy or a Yellow 13.

Realism has its advantages.

So, wait, you need to transport people this time?

Are Hinds an option?

>>10716372
>Land, do a three-point turn, take off. In under two minutes.

That guy just rolled so many 20s it hurts.

>>10716411
Well they ran into those Enemy Aces earlier with the last Russian mission. Took care of them quite handily, but it was still a pretty decent fight.

Of course, they had the advantage of numbers, a battlefield that was greatly arranged in their favour, and Hugs' AWACS Raper.

>>10716412
Hnnggh!

>>10716454

They weren't so much aces as Mercs with F-16s.

>>10716506
South Africa: YO DAWG, WE HEARD YOU CAN'T AFFORD WESTERN EQUIPMENT SO WE UPGRADED YO HIND WITH IT.

>>10716513
Still, enemy Merc company beats the usual "terrorists and pirate twats with jet aircraft" stuff.

I suppose the real Enemy Ace battles would come around when Blackwood decides to pick a fight with anyone in the G8 and gets an actual Air Force to deal with.

>>10716513

Oh, and Starfighters.

>>10716548
South Africa: Yo dawg, we heard yo-BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

From what it sounds like with a short landing strip, lightly armed militia and rescuing hostages you're going to want one stol transport, as for support, a light attack plane would be good, going for high performance jets sounds like it would be over kill, maybe one as a gunship but generally a light attack plane will be able to neutralize ground targets just as effectively and will be much cheaper, lighter and able to land on a short runway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_EMB_314_Super_Tucano

>Hugs' AWACS Raper.

I figure that is the real reason they won that fight as well as they did.

Has anyone figured out where the hell the mission area is relative to the start point? The coordinates don't work for me.

>>10716558
You said G8 and i started thinking that there was no way they could go toe to toe with america, germany, france, the UK, Russia, Japan is probably out too, so the options would be Italy and/or Canada.

>>10716684
I wonder how the G8 feels about Russia selling them all these planes...

>>10716591
If you want a light STOL transport to go with the Super Tucano, I suggest the IAI Arava. They've got a pretty short takeoff roll, can operate from unimproved runways and can be armed with machine guns and dumbfire rockets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Arava

>>10716591
Agreed. Super Tucanos should work fine as should OV-10 Broncos.

Get a cheap Antonov or something as a STOL transport, maybe a SU-25 or possibly a Viggen (is Scotch's Viggen from last mission salvagable?) if you really want a jet thrown in the mix.

>>10716684
Well, they did manage to pull a fast one on the Royal Navy.

And yet Blackwood still suffered pretty considerable casualties from that raid, an Antonov and several cargo planes IIRC, and lost quite a few personnel. And they just got out of the whole thing with their hides.

>>10716724
The Viggen is not STOl.

This is STOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezjfU4KtZtc

Hind, Super Tucano and Viggen seem to be the crowd favourites.

http://www.jrtwood.com/article_fireforce.asp
In Phase One, there would be a preliminary briefing before take-off, if Fire Force were not needed immediately. The K-Car would fly in to be talked onto the target by the personnel manning the OP (if a sighting was the reason for the call out). Difficulties of judging the position of an aircraft in the sky to a target on ground often caused delays, which afforded the enemy time to escape. When over the approximate area of the target, the K-Car gunner would throw out a smoke grenade so that the OP could use the smoke to re-direct the K-Car to the target. The K-Car would then pull up to its optimum orbiting height of 800 feet and put down fire to annihilate the enemy or dissuade them from leaving the area. The G-Cars would fly in a wider pre-arranged orbit, waiting for orders to put their stops down on the escape routes. This was a somewhat rigid, slow and cumbersome procedure and was sometimes fruitless because the enemy had fled. It was soon realised that the aircrew had to look outside the circle constantly as the insurgents covered the ground at their astonishing rate of 500 metres a minute.

F5-ing like the motherfucking Fist of the North Star


Say OP, how do you guys (the pilots/players that is) coordinate before a new game session.

Do you guys generally have your missions planned in advance or do you plan at the gaming session just before 'flying' the mission?

>>10716764

That was a good mission.

I hope that one Tornado pilot survived. That was a real man.

>>10716811
The changes made in Phase Two drastically improved the success ratio. The briefing would normally be held at the refuelling stop on the way to the target, to save time and because by then the OP would have crucial information on enemy movement or the lack thereof. By 1977 it was realised that the K-Car had to fly in from behind and over the OP in order to see what he was seeing and therefore waste no time in finding and marking the target with a white smoke generator. The K-Car would pull up and fire on the enemy. As the G-Cars arrived, they would fly directly to prescribed stop positions on the escape routes and orbit them individually. Instead of having to wait for the Fire Force commander, the G-Cars were given some autonomy. If the G-Car crew spotted the enemy, they could land their stop group without reference to the K-Car. If they did not spot the enemy, they would not put down their stop group. This meant that this stick remained airborne for quick deployment elsewhere. There would, however, be an alternative plan - Plan Alpha. The Fire Force commander would simply state 'Plan Alpha' and the G-Cars would deposit their stop groups on the predetermined stop positions. This meant minimum delay in bottling up the enemy. Once the escape routes were sealed, the Fire Force commander would have his paratroopers brought in to sweep the area, driving the quarry into the open where the 20mm could deal with them or into the ambushes of the stop groups. The achievement of Phase Two was that the quick positioning of stops often trapped the enemy.

>>10716829
Phase Three, in which the 'Jumbo' Fire Force came into being, was the product of the constant availability of G-Cars in 1979 because the forces deployed on external operations at last had available the longer-range and greater troop carrying-capacity of the AB205A 'Cheetahs'. The Jumbo Fire Force was created by bringing two Fire Forces together, giving it two K-Cars, eight G-Cars, a Dakota and a Lynx, often with the support of Hawker Hunters. When the Fire Force was seven minutes out from the target, the two K-Cars would accelerate and pull away. Once directed onto the target, the K-Cars (being used like tanks on the battlefield) would immediately attack without pulling up, seeking to traumatise, if not kill, the enemy. The Fire Force commander might bring in the jet aircraft immediately with their devastating Golf bombs to lower the enemy's morale further. The effect would be to 'stabilise' the situation. Those insurgents who survived would go to ground. The stops would be in position quickly and the paratroops would follow to sweep the area. Actions that used to take an entire morning or a day thenceforth were often over in an hour. The commander of Support Commando, 1RLI, Major Nigel Henson recalls tackling and killing 22 insurgents at 6 a.m. By 7 a.m. his Fire Force was in action against ten more and, having dealt with them, was by mid-morning in a third contact.

>>10716844
>>10716829
>>10716811
Wait what

>>10716818
I loved that Mission, plenty of OH SHIT going on, and the one British /tg/ guy who got all pissy as the mission report flowed in.

>>10716818
Agreed, that guy was awesome

>>10716810
>>10716724
i'd say one jet set up for air superiority, i mean while the J-7's are not supposed to be a problem you don't want to run into a surprise they'd still do rings around you.

Steve wrote me back

"Think of it as gravel with patches of grass and rocks, it's basically just a semi flat area clear of trees. It's not long, 1500 to 2000 feet at the most"

So I think I'm not flying a jet, maybe a Harrier.

Also, to the person who asked, we plan our missions mostly there, but we do some coordination before hand at times.

MEANWHILE IN ARGENTINA...

I realize this is fairly off topic, but...

I'm running a high fantasy game and I want to include Hell's Black Aces. So, which pilots should I include, how should they look/act, and most importantly what do they fly? Anything fantasy is a go except for steampunk type stuff.

>>10716948
Biscuit, flies an F-4 Phantom, and is undead.

>>10716939

Can you guys fly helos? If so, maybe a Hind, and then some turboprop aircraft?

>>10716975

>>10716985
That is what we are planning I think, just wondering about range, don't helicopters have shorter ones?

>>10716939
It'd be nice to have an A-10 for a mission like this. They are made to take off from ploughed fields, shred things all day, then land on another ploughed field.

>>10716939
Thanks :)

Well, that disqualifies the Viggen then. SU-25 should be able to handle it though, Super Tucano and OV-10 Bronco should be able to work out of there as well.

A dedicated air-to-air jet just in case might be difficult with that strip.
Harrier probably is damn expensive, and not the best of dogfighters anyway.

>>10717021
A-10s have very finicky gear that is not good on rough fields. Nice bird, but it likes to land on concrete, not rough fields.

>>10717018
Yeah they do, but some are capable of in-flight refueling.

Hinds have a decent range though IIRC, and I think they can carry external fuel tanks as well. Great armored troop carrier as well, so you get firepower and a hostage transport in one, and it's pretty damn tough.

>>10717026
I don't think the SU-25 could land there.

For reference, here is a 2100 foot long runway.

It is not a big distance.

>>10717085
Was mostly talking about terrain, kinda forgot about the limited distance.

Derp

Might be a bit risky but... Osprey just got an upgrade, I think at 4:30 mark you see the new gun.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a63_1275369913

>>10717085
as someone who has a currently valid single engine land pilot's license . . .

that runway is effing crazy

any possibility of JATO or RATO bottles? They'd get a takeoff roll down to practically nada- though landing might be a trip. (maybe something like the retro system they had for that C-130 for the Iranian hostage thing back in the 80s?)

>>10715809
I'm stumped, what plane is that?

>>10717117
I'm guessing it's ridiculously expensive though...

>>10717156
>>10717156
The one that failed and killed a Herc Crew?

>>10717157
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDC_F-CK-1_Ching-kuo

>>10717130
Was there on my vacation last year, part of my 'ridiculous airport' tour that I have to do in my lifetime.

>>10717172

no,. it failed, but the crew got out with no fatalities (my info could be bad though)

>>10717194
very cool, do you fly as well? Where is that place?

>Somehow buy a C-17
>advice nepotism
>Fill it with explosives

>>10717260
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustaf_III_Airport

>>10717194
Where else have you been/do you want to go?

>>10717265
They're not the fucking FFL

>>10717291

Oh Gustav III, you card. To bad you were murdered on your own masquerade-ball.

>>10717343
Of course not, they would push the explosives out first. Unless things went wrong, which they probably would, buy hey

>>10717343

Yeah, they're not that fucking crazy. FFL Are crazier than PCs it seems.


Tangentially related anyone know of a good source for modern French-use military vehicle miniatures in 15mm scale?

>>10717293
St Maartens, Courcheval and Kai-Tak (when I was 12).
El Alto andHonduras as well!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_VPox-myKg

>>10717401
http://quickreactionforce.co.uk/catalog/index.php/cPath/24_54_94

Op, you should have stuck with the french, they don't do rescue ops.

Yeah, that French Foreign Legion mission turned out not too unlike a very VERY well-planned and well executed X-Com mission.

>>10717418
Cool!

So how's your new Fulda Gap game coming along?

>>10717502
>>10717494
>>10717401
The french missions bother me, op's gm seems to think the french military are good, dspite having never won a war.

Do I have to do everything here?
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Mercenaries_and_planes#Archive
Archives
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8515581
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8526381
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8562185
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8598508
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http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9091532
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9133174
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9238394
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9444052
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/9772662
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/10363067
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/10676512/

How is it I always miss the start of these now a days. I used to be on the ball.

2 Hinds for gunship/extract and 2 durable little counter raider aircraft like Super Ts or perhaps even a pair of civilian prop planes with weapons strapped on. No need to go spending a whole bunch on something like this.

>>10717524
FFL isn't regular military though :P

>>10717515
We shall see, opening moves are very important we learned last time.

I'm out for now, hopefully this thread will be here in five hours.

>>10717559
>>civilian prop planes with weapons strapped on

>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustaf_von_Rosen

FUCK YEAH!

>>10717524

Whatever you say little boy. Students of history know otherwise.

The French, zey are ze bahdass.


>>10717447

Yeah, I've seen the QRF stuff, looks good if a bit limited for what is French Vehicles are listed in the game I'm gonna play (Ambush Alley).

That and I can't find any information on the organizational structure of the FFL Infantry that isn't written in French.

>>10717515
That shot can't be real. Two Flankers AND a Berkut in formation? The Berkut isn't even a prototype, it's a tech demonstrator.

>>10717559

Pucaras?

Little 2 seater turboprop COIN birds, think they're Argentinean.

>>10717634
My thoughts exactly sir. What he flew would be the minimum in my mind.

>>10717643
Airshow much?

>>10717650
Should work as well.

For reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OV-10_Bronco
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Tucano
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FMA_IA_58_Pucar%C3%A1

Those seem like capable and, perhaps just as important, not too expensive options for OP's group.

>>10717738
No not really. Not since I lived in Hawaii at least. A twin prop would be preferred. Perhaps one of those alpine aircraft(like that one in the beginning of Goldeneye) that I can't ever remember the names of. A pair of jury rigged rocket pods and a door gunner with a mini gun would be nice.

>>10717799
What?

Hmm...ditch the choppers. Two Broncos or Pucara escorting two of those alpine aircraft I mentioned for troop drop and gunship roles.

>>10717839
What What? I don't understand the question ^_^

>>10717857
Sorry, I didn't understand why you were replying to my post/what you were saying.

>>10717899
yeah my post was a bit jumbled wasn't it. I though you were asking if i'd been to many airshows. Thats what the first bit is about.

Trying to ID that aircraft i'm thinking of. Its in the beginning of Goldeneye and I also think its in Sky Fighters(the protagonist is forced to fly one when he's kicked out of the air force)

>>10717845

Too bad keeping one of their birds is out of the question. Just, ya know, in case something shows up.

plus, napalm.

>>10717643
No, I was replying to >>10717950, who was questioning the authenticity of the pic of a Berkut with two Flankers in formation.

I suggested it was probably taken at an airshow.


Sorry 'bout the confusion, have a Skyhawk ^^

>>10718017
Ah that makes sense. Got it mixed up. And i'll never refuse a Skyhawk. ^_^

Here...one of these. Anyone got an ID on this? If I recall correctly this is a STOL capable aircraft. Couple of rocket pods and a door gunner would turn this into a fine little gunship.

>>10718119
I have no idea, but it might be somewhere on this list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_STOL_aircraft

:P

Nevermind...found it myself. Its STOL for sure. Its even been armed too. Check it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilatus_PC-6

>>10718162
Wait, think I found it:
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilatus_PC-6

>>10718195
Fukken ninja'd

>>10718210
Nice timing. I found that same list minutes before.

World record holder, military use, 10 passengers, STOL capable...i'm putting this in as my suggested aircraft.

>>10718246
And pretty damn cheap as well.
Chances are it'll get knocked out of the sky pretty fast though if OP's group encounter more than minor resistance.

Are we still batting for Hinds on this mission? Musina-to-coordinates isn't much more than a couple hundred km on the map, but I don't know the Hind's range.

>>10718338
They're obviously of no use if OP's gotta dance with some Migs...thats what the Broncos would be for. They, at least, can carry a Sidewinder or two. A pair of each aircraft and they're golden. Hell a pair of AIM-9X are probably more expensive than a single PC6

>>10718393
Yeah, J-7s showing up could be a problem.

Anywho, it's getting late, so I'm heading off.
See you around, fligh/tg/uy out

>>10718388
I'm not sure Steve will allow helicopters of any sort. As far as I know we have no stats for them and theres a huge difference between piloting a helo and a jet fighter. Not sure any of OPs flight is actually qualified to fly one.

>>10718582
Also, before I forget, archived this:
>>http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/10715809/

Why hasn't an A/C-130 been suggested yet?

>>10717085
That says 200ft in the pic, not 2000.

>>10718992

Because you haven't read the thread and understood the criteria.

Looking back at the mission brief i'm beginning to wonder why OPs flight was chosen for this one. They're obviously more fighter jocks than covert-op rescue mission types. Yeah its a game and variety is the spice of life but still...OP's flight isn't the only Black Flag unit in Africa obviously. Why not assign another unit with more experience in this kind of thing? eh...

I'm not greatly concerned about possible air threats aside from perhaps a chopper or converted light utility aircraft. Considering the distance involved and the speed at which they'll likely be moving a tree top insertion should be a piece of cake. Even if the airforce does detect you they won't likely have enough time to respond in kind...unless of course they're expecting some sort of aerial insertion and, for some reason, are determined to stop it no matter what.

No, what i'm more concerned about is ground threats OP isn't aware of yet. All available intel should be bought since they'll be flying in with even less between them and a nasty death than normal. Perhaps a long range imaging system should be bought and installed on one of the aircraft so that the target can be scouted from a distance before the flight moves in. Rocket pods and guns should be enough for this one but if someone's stilll worried about those J-7s aircraft with sidewinder capability should be purchased.

>>10718992
Because this isn't Modern Warfare 2?

>>10719053
Maybe because they have a reputation for getting shit done, or it could be a "who's closest?" thing and the black aces happened to be in the immediate area.

See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_STOL_aircraft

As VTOL jets go OP's probably stuck with either harriers or Yak-38's - if they can find 'em.

A Yak38 might actually be a moderately decent choice in this case. Yeah it can't carry much, hardly anything at all really, but it's capable of using that field and it'd provide a decent counter to any actual jets the flight would face.

1 - Yak38, 1 - Bronco, 2 - PC6 perhaps?

Damn. Forgot my tags on that last post.

I kind of feel silly for suggesting that Yak but it is a viable option. A harrier would be better but I don't know what the price and availability difference would be. Plus the harrier is just plain out over used when missions like this come up in any game.

>>10719493
The Yak would have the availability going for it, OP's group is on decent terms with the Russians, while weaseling a harrier out of the US would be hard, if not impossible (just forget even asking the Brits ).

But still, this is assuming that the J-7's would even show up.

If not then 1-2 attackers (super tucano, I would suggest a skyraider, but I seriously doubt OP's group would be able to find one), a bronco, and 1-2 gunship/transports would work great.

>>10719658
Less than a hundred Yaks were produced though(close to 50 if i recall) so they'd be equally hard to find in good repair and a short amount of time. Better to stick to prop aircraft in this case I think.

Something like that turret bronco would be nice. I doubt you'll need all those mavericks though.

Don't forget that you're going to have to be transporting in eight soldiers, and bringing out anywhere from probably 8-15 guys.

Ideally, you'd probably want one one pilot on air superiority to deal with any surprises, one pilot to do the hot landing, and wait until the hostages are picked up, and two guys loitering and picking off targets as needed, with a big enough boom at the end to leave the place a smoking crater.

What you guys really need is a transport helicopter. An Mi-17 or a Blackhawk would probably be preferable, but an old Huey might do.

If it's going to have to be a plane, you're going to need something specialized and civilian, like a Quest Kodiak, a Dash-7, or a Nomad.

>>10719951
Ah hell. I wasn't thinking about the hostages when I suggested the PC6. They're decent for picking up one or two guys...but 10 or so more? Not happening.

Sigh...back to the wiki it is then.

Have some CHANINT to go with your SATINT.

Perhaps a single Skyvan with some miniguns aboard for the rescue vehicle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_SC.7_Skyvan

>>10716844
>>10720428
Wait just a million motherfucking seconds here.
...
Holy shit it's the same place.

>>10720588
How do you figure?

Oh and forget the skyvan...I still prefer a pair of PC6s. Rugged and they've got an amazingly short take off/landing distance. A gun in the door of each and you should be able to fit everyone in.

>>10720693
I can't find a good Topomap of the area though.

Hey guys what's goin on?

Could the group perhaps purchase access to another airfield?
http://ourairports.mobi/airports/FALM/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFB_Makhado
There's a 4km long military runway there if you can buy rights to it, but it's 170km away from their mission objective, as compared to Messina runway which is closer to 70km away.

>>10721052
What range do the airplanes that P&M's group use have, anyway? 170km is fuck all for any modern aircraft.

>>10721052
>>10721085
They couldn't "secure" a proper field as they stated in the brief which means no one was willing to let a group of mercs use their field and keep quiet about it. It'd be nice to have a real black top field but I kinda like that Steve threw this one at them. Forces them out of their regular aircraft and into something that'll probably feel like a kite with guns after their modern AtA shit.

"Hey, South Africa!"
"?"
"We're committing warcrimes, can we buy access to to the same airbase as your only active fighter squadron?"
"..."
"We'll pay you."
"Black aces pls go"
"No"

>a kite with guns
I will strap a KITE to this GUN.

>>10721039

What game is that, anyways?

I should really look into that MiG Alley game.

>>10721569
I too would like to know what game that is.

>>10721232
>a kite with guns


http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-207704011.html


"Ben Franklin spent much of the American War of Independence in Paris. There the old tinkerer conceived of a weapon he called Ben's Brit Blaster. It was simple. Americans would dangle cannon from kites flown above the British soldiers. Lightning rods would funnel an electrical charge through the hanging cannon, and that would blast the Brits to smithereens."

Get a V-22, paint it up like an American bird, fly it in.

Why miss a chance to troll the CIA?

>>10721928
this is... I cant hate this.

>>10721569
>>10721876
It might be one of the games in the Strike Fighters series by Third Wire, IIRC they're kinda budget software but they're still good.

>>10722037
>Get a V-22, and crash due to a mechanical failure
FTFY

What aircraft have the sort of short, crappy runway takeoff capability OP needs?

>>10722148
A wiki list was posted several times earlier. There are few military aircraft that would meet the specifications...and only two jets that could do it and still call themselves fighters in any sense of the word. Its helicopters(if they're available), prop aircraft(mostly civilian/unarmed), a Yak, or a Harrier. Thats pretty much it.

>>10722265
Go for prop aircraft, then.

Have a couple of the soldiers insert with some Stinger missiles and let them pop the Zimbabwean air cover.

>>10722148
Helicopters.

>>10722601
Does OP's crew even know how to fly helicopters?

It's not quite the same as a plane.

>>10719802
According to wikipedia 231 were built, but only 50 were Yak-38M's - the least shitty version.

>>10722641
I'm sure they're mildly qualified, and the brief said they'd get instruction manuals to study on the flight over.

An idea occurs to me.

OP, how whats the closest possible airfield you could get to your target? If its within buddy-tanking range of your two BIGGEST planes, take the Su-30 and your F-18 or F-4 or Viggen or something as Air-superiority/anti-tank and use the tiny field for your transports.

>>10722679
Why bother with the -38?

>>10722687
Buddy tanking would seriously limit the amount of ordinance they could carry, but still - some air superiority is better than none. Plus if they get two big birds in the air then most likely the other two would have to be transport/gunships.

If possible I'd try to set up a proper tanker in the air (maybe see if the FFL are still in the area?) for the SU-30 and then go with a bronco loaded for bear and a pair of gunships.

But still, what're the odds that they'll actually run into enemy air assets? Unless the rebels also hired mercs...

>>10722696
Because only four of the Yak-41's were ever built, and only two extant survivors remain.

Interesting fact: the rafale can takeoff and land on a 1600ft runway.

>>10722810
Except for the six in possession by Lockheed...

>>10722840
What're the odds Lockheed will sell them to a bunch of mercs?

They've gotta have at least one of them in something that can carry, land, and pick up at the target. Buying a tanker's not really an option. Buddy refueling would negate usable stores. They just need to buy some cheap stuff like we've been suggesting and go play bush pilot for an afternoon.

>>10722840
Wait. I'm confused. No expert on the Yak's, but why does an American company have more of a Russian fighter than Russia itself does? Just curious.

>>10722897
It was being developed near the fall of the soviet union, and when Yakolev ran out of soviet monies they shopped for foreign partners. Lockheed-Martin stepped up to the plate because they were beginning development of the JSF program.

>>10722942
Picture related (Russian Federation marking on tail)

Of note though, the only production listings I can find only state the four prototypes, not six (plus at least two)

link related:

"Manufacture
Yakovlev OKB
Version Quantity Assembly Location Time Period
Yak-41 4 Yak OKB, Moscow 1985-1989
Total: 4

Total Produced: 4 a/c (1 structural article + 1 ground test article + 2 flight test examples)
[Small Yak-41M production batch ordered early 1991 from Smolensk factory, but cancelled November 1991]"

>>10722696
I'd forgotten about the 41 completely. Didn't know it hadn't gone into service though. I suppose I could have guessed considering how much actual use their carriers are getting these days.

>>10722984
forgot mah link (cuz I'm a tard)

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/aircraft/types/yakovlev-yak-41-freestyle.htm

I hadn't considered OP's team using helicopters before. Reading the mission briefing, I was confused as heck. What good is an airstrike going to do against a compound with hostages in it?

>>10723090
Wait...What? The Alamo B having a 70 Km range? Lolno.

try 20 km if you're lucky and have a good tail aspect shot. Not even sure if the SARH model could reach past 50km.

>>10723156
It's not really an aistrike more of a land a small transport, disgorge troops, provide cover from the air, land to pick up troops and hostages, blow everything to fuck go home and get drunk.

Here's a thought: get some MB-326s, paint them up like Zambian aircraft, come in that way.

>>10723194

If they're lucky it'll be that easy.

Here, the perfect option: the de Havilland Canada DHC-5 Buffalo. Zambia operates two, so if you paint it up in their colors it won't be immediately obvious that Black Flag is operating in the area.

>>10723343
If they can take off from the shite airfield and they have time to mount at least a couple of machine guns in the waist those'd be pretty damn awesome.

And here's an escort aircraft: the Nanchang CJ-6. Prop plane, so it can take off from a shorter runway, and the Zambians operate them, so false flag is still possible. Also, you might be able to fit surprisingly modern weapons on via the hardpoints.

>>10723343
There isn't much time to do a repaint.

>>10723471
If there's enough time to learn how to fly a helicopter there's probably enough time to repaint your plane.

>>10723491
They're handing the pilots a manual to read on a flight, it's hardly good instruction.

>>10723491
Also, a shitty paintjob would probably fight the "Third World Air Farce" ambience.

>>10723533
>fight
Fuck, should be "fit". Freudian slip, I guess.

I've been wanting OPs flight to play up the False Flag angle once or twice but they've never done it. This mission would be perfect for it if it weren't for the fact that its a short notice posting.

Also a single Buffalo would work very well as a gunship/extraction aircraft.

>>10723714

Except for the fact that the PC6 totally outclasses it in terms of take off and landing distances and speeds.

>>10723771
Looking at its specs, though, it looks like the PC-6 can't carry enough passengers to extract the soldiers and the hostages at the same time.

>>10723771
Except that they would need two PC-6's (10 passengers per, 8 soldiers plus an unknown number of hostages, minimum 1) or one DHC-5 (41 person capacity).

The DH-5 also has a higher top speed (290 mph vs 153 mph - a pretty big difference), but a higher stall speed (and therefore landing speed, but it's not nearly as much of a gap as the top speeds).

On the other hand the PC-6 has a good bit more range, and has a 600 foot takeoff distance, as opposed to the DH-5's 2100 foot distance.

If they can swing it I think the DH-5's weight advantage more than makes up for it's size, range, and takeoff/landing distance.

>>10723913
(samefag)
That being said, an AC-47 (or rapidly converted C-47/DC-3/Whatever) would be even better as it combines the short takeoff distance (900 feet) of the PC-6 with the capacity of the DH-5

>>10723176
You must not be versed on current ALAMO ranges, the IR version is the world's only BVR IR missile, and the new SARH and ARH can do 70+ miles.

>>10724015
It all depends on whether false flag is desired. The problem is that, as best as I can tell, nobody in Africa currently operates a Spooky.

>>10724160
(different anon, and not arguing with you)
I won't ever trust anyone's projection or statement of an AAM missile's range until I become a pilot myself and ask my flight commanders. There's too much false info in the pool.

>>10724316
Whatever the manufacturer tells you about your missiles, take 30% off, whatever your intel officer tells you about the enemy capability, add 20% to it.

Sukhoi, thanks for answering the PM, I think we're going to take your advice, haven't heard back from Judge yet though, so we'll see.

We are going in helicopters, we can all fly them apparently, and finding a plane that can use such a small strip with a usable payload is tough. Not to mention there is no airstrip at the target zone (I asked) so helicopters it is.

>>10724425
How different are the rules for using helicopters instead of jets?

>>10724425

Hinds?

Choppers? Really? Well ok then. I'm not gonna argue for fixed wing more than I already have. I just didn't know Steve had come up with stats for choppers and that you could fly them.

That said what kind are you thinking of taking? Hind seems to be the favorite but a quartet of hueys would be just fine too. Or are you going to go the high quality route and get things like Tigers?

>>10724716

If they only wanted to rescue the main VIP, they could take Mi-28s, because they can fit 3 people each.

A pair of hinds, complete with AtA missiles, and a pair of Blackhawks or SuperHueys perhaps? Or maybe three hinds and some form of large single or double rotor transport.

But there HAS to be fighter escort in some fashion. The minimal risk of a single fighter of any kind attacking the choppers warrants it.

I won't be sure what we take until the day of, but we have a plan right now that seems possible, just waiting to hear back from Steve and judge.

We thought about fixed wings, but they don't provide a huge advantage over the helicopters, on such a short trip.

>>10724944
170km is the distance?

I'm thinking, air to air will not be necessary if OP plays his cards right.

>>10724944
Hinds are AtA capable...as are most modern attack choppers. Only IR capable as far as i know but still...its something.

>>10724978
I'll be interested to see what you all end up using. Perhaps someone will use my favorite chopper. Not gonna say what it is...we'll see.

>>10725014
I, the glorious Anon, say it is too risky to go without fixed-wing Air Defense.

>>10724978

Have you considered Mi-28 gunships? They seem to have a good amount of payload, at 2400 kg of ordnance.

seemed appropriate

>>10725092

I personally prefer the Ka-50 over the Mi-28. More interesting and it suits the group more with its single cockpit design.

>>10725209
They all fly two seat warbirds.

>>10725361
Do they now? *scratches his head* Honestly they've been losing or buying planes so much lately that i've lost track. I have to be reminded what they're flying every time they go on a mission.

>>10725409
Well Judge didn't. And Scotch hasn't yet.

Actually, what fighters have they lost?

>>10725425
Sandy went into a building with his. Biscuit's came apart underneath him. Scotch, IIRC, lost his Frogfoot on the most recent mission.

Just a guess, but I'm thinking they won't use any helicopter South Africa uses, just so they don't screw over a potential customer.

>>10725536
Nah, Scotch had his Mirage blown out from underneath him. Judge lost the frogfoot.

Where's the Vark?

>>10725538
They could go for Hips. Zambia uses them.

Out of curiosity, has there been any indication as to what the other BlackFlag squads have been doing these past few in-game months?

>>10725618
My guess? Shot down a polish plane, torpedoed a gulf oil well, sunk a south korean warship, amongst other things.

>>10725550
Sandy got tagged and flew into an apartment block at the very end of the Russia - Georgia arc. Apparently, his player took it poorly and left the game.

>>10725682
I know that, kind of a dick move on his part, Biscuit didn't complain, and he died ejecting!

But Sandy plowed in while strapped onto his Fencer.

>>10725667
They also took the time to make sure FIFA picked that referee from Mali for the World Cup. And to spend some of their hard-earned money on the construction of a vuvuzela factory.

>>10725706
Oh, he did, didn't he. Huh, i always had Sandy and his Vark as a single entity in my memory.

Um. Maybe it got liquidated?

>>10725682
>Apparently, his player took it poorly and left the game.
Oh geez, I didn't hear THAT.

That sucks.

>>10725618
The other two squadrons have been getting less contracts then us, the lower tier squadron (then us) has been doing Bush wars in Central Africa. I think this mission was supposed to be theirs but we got hired for our 100% success rate (which I can't imagine we'll keep much longer)

>>10725682

R.I.P. Sandman

>>10725774
>Only now realizes OP's group has not truly failed a mission

>>10725774
How close are all of you to paying off your debts to BlackFlag?

>>10725793
Warehouse he crashed into.

>>10725836
I think Hugs has already, but now that he's in the black he's just seeing how much he can make before retiring.

>>10725667

Not to mention shooting down a plane full of Australian Mining Execs in the middle of Cameroon/Congo.

>>10725807
Yeah not one yet. They haven't completed all mission objectives but they've gotten what they truly needed to done. Thats all that matters. And yeah...i doubt they'll keep that record going for much longer.

I'm reading the mission reports since I'm new to this.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8606900/

I just got to the part where they bombed the hospital, and people are complaining about the French Foreign Legion. I noticed mentions of it in this thread as well, have they done more jobs for them?

>>10726040

Stacks of 'em.

>>10725793
The one thing I admire about their GM is that he never pulls punches. There was no miraculous escape for Biscuit, he died, tangled in a chute. Sandman took a chance evading fire, and it finally bit him. Boom. Dead. No time to question it.

Brutal, fast, harsh. You crash, you burn, you die.

It really strikes a chord, I bet op and crew all actually fear getting hit, since you don't have much chance when you take a shot. You either luck out, or get blown up.

>>10726040
They've done one other job. I won't spoil it for you. But Thread 26 is fucking amazing.

>>10726086

Yup, I love that two. No badass final moments, no heroics, just a swift, sudden death.

I know this isn't /a/, but since it's relevant to the thread I'll bring it up: if you go over to Anime News Network, they're apparently streaming Area 88. I think both OVA and TV.

>>10726153
Let's face it, the GM makes awesome missions. The intel only tells half truths, and the events during a mission force you to make tough choices. Since ammo expenditure is tracked, you might not want to push out a lot of missiles, but on the other hand, a single shot is not a guaranteed hit.

Someone needs to update the 1d4 chan page with the new stuff.

I think the fact that we spawned writefaggotry and drawfaggotry from a homebrew campaign setting, that isn't 40k or made by any major company,. speaks to how awesome this game is.

>>10726365
Have you read Sukhoi's story? Made a thread into an awesome one.

Remi and Jean-Claude

Never forget.

>>10726365
No, your game is shit, enjoyed by three assholes who keep spamming this fucking thread onto the front page.

>>10726407
You're fired.

>>10726407
These threads are plane porn, I make no apologies.

>>10726407
No, anon, YOU are the shit.

hey, if they have any Anti air wont helicopters just be shot out of the sky like nothing?

correct me if im wrong but helicopters can be easily taken out by 5 guys with RPGs

>>10726493
If you give them a non-moving target. Helicopter's moving at speed? Not a chance against RPGs, but a MANPAD might have a shot.

>>10726520
Or, alternatively, lots of small-arms fire.

>>10726520
Fly low, fly fast, and use your fancy optics to shoot people with 30mm death.

Does OP have any idea what they want to fly? A couple hinds and some heuys? Maybe try and procure a Hokum or an apache?

>>10726557
True, but that's assuming they have a chance to shoot. Look at littlebirds, great planes, limited armour, tons of firepower.

>>10726572
I recommend Mi-17 Hips. They're in use in that part of Africa, so they won't stand out as much as other choices might.

>>10726572
Oh I have an idea, I was thinking a Huey. It carries passengers, and Judge's player linked me to a site that shows it can carry miniguns, a nose mounted grenade launcher, and rockets.

Anyway, I think I am out for the night, we are supposed to play either tomorrow afternoon, or this weekend, I'll post a report when we're done (hopefully right after so I don't keep you guys waiting)

>>10726657
Oh, forgot, it is also really cheap.

>>10726657
That's a wing full of death.

My prediction of this.

>>10726668
Oh yeah...huey gunships are cheap, versatile, and heavy hitting. Totally worth it though Mi-24s can take more punishment and can carry more ordinance(i think)

As i said I look forward to reading your next report.

>>10726668

I'd say spring for at least one Mi-24, or a Mi-28, for extra rockety goodness. Another option is a Blackhawk for troop transport and then whatever heavy gunships you want.

See if you can get a hold of the Comanche prototype, just for shits and giggles.

>>10726763
Apocalypse soon, fellow stalkers!

>>10719802
Hellfires, not Mavericks :)


>>10726763
Make sure to play Ride of the Valkyries, especially if you go with Hueys, OP :)


>>10726857
Blackhawk is great. Can carry a decent amount of firepower as well.
Anywho, looking forward to the AAR.
Good luck, OP

P.S. If at all possible, it'd be great if you could post Steve's chopper stats

>>10727713
Sigh...those two always gave me a hard time when trying to ID them.

Oh and that scene is one of my favorites in movie history.

>>10728033
It's all in the fins man ;)
And the size ofcourse

Bump

>>10726657
The UH-1 in any configuration has virtually no armor because it cannot lift all that much. A Super Cobra is basically the same bird, but without all the carry and lots of shooty instead.

I'd go with armored choppers for this, because there WILL be unexpected AKs jumping out from anywhere anytime. Not only will an armored Apache, Hind, or Havoc give you the time to find the shooter and take him out, but they also have swiveling guns so you don't have to start maneuvering to get a target aspect when you come under fire.

Most effective tactic with the heavy Russians: High speed strafing. Come in low and fast and unload on what you can spot, then leave quickly without ever even slowing down.

With the Americans: Stay low, come at night, use any cover, even a tree if you can. Never let them spot you, Have plenty of firepower waiting, like artillery strikes, or precision bombs dropped from high altitude and guided in by your targeting.

If the intel proves right 2 Blackhawks with door gunners should be sufficient to do the lifting and some fire support. A missile ship is always good to have, for this mission maybe with combined AtG and AtA loadout, can be jet or helo, if jet it can go in hot and remain on CAP for better awareness.

You will want some Hydras on at least one of the helicopters. See if you can get the ones that disperse into shrapnel halfway to the target. Because the only other way to get infantry out of foliage is napalm, and we all know where that would lead to...

Don't fuck around with the gnats when you can take a real bug.

>>10731604
Shock and awe, I like it.
But can you even arm that thing?

>>10731612
Door mounted machine guns I think, but that's it.

CTRL-F Hind... Fa/tg/uys, I am appoint.

>>10731695
You can stick a third gun on the ramp as well. It does interfere with going in and out a little, but the ramp is wide enough that troops can walk on either side of the gunner and his weapon. Usually an M2 is placed there.

So can you manage to scrounge up some miniguns or will you have to be going with pintle mounted M60s?

At least make it a Super Jolly Green Giant.

>Armament of three pintle-mounted General Electric GAU-2/A 7.62 mm (.308 in) six-barreled Gatling-type machine guns, with one in a forward hatch on each side of the fuselage and one mounted on the tail ramp, with the gunner secured with a harness.

Pave Low upgrades
.50 FTW!

"The HH-53H retained the in-flight refueling probe, external fuel tanks, rescue hoist, and three-gun armament of the HH-53C; armament was typically a minigun on each side, and a Browning .50cal (12.7mm) gun in the tail to provide more reach and a light anti-armor capability. The improvements featured by the HH-53H included:

* A Texas Instruments AN/AAQ-10 forward-looking infrared (FLIR) imager.
* A Texas Instruments AN/APQ-158 terrain-following radar (TFR), which was a digitized version of the radar used by the A-7. It was further modified to be able to give terrain avoidance and terrain following commands simultaneously (first aircraft capable of this unique feature).[citation needed]
* A Canadian Marconi Doppler-radar navigation system.
* A Litton or Honeywell inertial guidance system (INS).
* A computerized moving-map display.[7]
* A radar-warning receiver (RWR) and chaff-flare dispensers."

>>10716506

Holy Goddamn what

Ain't she a beaut'?

Hind 'Classic'

HURR!

>>10731818
Mi-24 Super Agile Hind on ground 2006.jpg

Mi-24 Super Agile Hind, a modernized Hind by the South African firm ATE. At the Ysterplaat Airshow 2006.

>>10731815
Under the Pave Low III program, the Air Force modified nine MH-53Hs and 32 HH-53s for night and adverse weather operations. Modifications included forward-looking infrared, inertial navigation system, global positioning system, Doppler navigation systems, APQ-158 terrain-following and terrain-avoidance radar, an on-board mission computer, enhanced navigation system, and integrated avionics to enable precise navigation to and from target areas. The Air Force designated these modified versions as MH-53Js.

The MH-53J's main mission was to drop off, supply, and pick up special forces behind enemy lines. It also can engage in combat search and rescue missions. Low-level penetration is made possible by a state-of-the-art terrain following radar, as well as infrared sensors that allow the helicopter to operate in bad weather. It was equipped with armor plating. It could transport 38 troops at a time and sling up to 20,000 pounds (9,000 kg) of cargo with its external hook. It was capable of top speeds of 165 mph (266 km/h) and altitudes up to 16,000 feet (4,900 m).

>>10732194
The MH-53M Pave Low IV was modified from the MH-53J configuration with the addition of Interactive Defensive Avionics System/Multi-Mission Advanced Tactical Terminal or IDAS/MATT. The system enhanced the defensive capabilities of the Pave Low. It provided instant access to the total battlefield situation, through near real-time Electronic Order of Battle updates. It also provided a new level of detection avoidance with near real-time threat broadcasts over-the-horizon, so crews can avoid and defeat threats, and replan enroute if needed.


Do want

bump

bump

Working on a story, will post in a bit.

>>10733327
Sweet!

Sweet! New story!

I also support the MH-53M...if you can get one OP thats the bird you want delivering and picking up the strike team + hostages. Everything else can be a gunship if you get something like that.

Whatever you do, take a Little Bird drone.
The AH-6 literally flies itself, or can be commanded from another helicopter. It packs missiles and can load 2 personnel.

>>10734445
And it has great range and a pretty high cruise speed (for a chopper at least)

>>10734579
Forgot namefagging, derp

Might as well post some pics

This is the sort of flying you'll want to be doing on the run in and out.

>>10734691
Nice

There is nothing that describes the /sound/ of an approaching Sea King. It isn't exactly a sound at first. It starts as a tingling above your stomach. The vibration is so low and strong that all you can think is: Dragon.
Then it gets louder and louder and every minute you think it couldn't possibly get louder still. When it's hanging above you you cannot hear yourself scream at the top of your lungs. Don't spread you arms or the downwash will tumble you down the street like a hurricane. It is truly impressive.

>>10734746
Great, the A-Team theme song is now playing in my head :P

>>10734764
I love that imagery as they come in off the ocean and over the beach spraying rockets and gunfire left right and center.

>>10734898
Agreed, it's just so glorious

You only need one attack chopper if its this one. ;)

>>10735027
NOSTALGIA!

>>10735054
Got the theme song playin right now. ;P

Make sure your door gunners are competent.

>>10735063
Same here


Also: testing123

incoming

Take two CH-53s and pick one of these up. Rebels certainly wouldn't be expecting that!

>>10735190
"They're trying to fly that tank"

Man, I really gotta to see the new A-Team flick