Might as well be on the back of a giant turtle.

>>10768883

AH. I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.

>>10768853

Think about it this way OP.

A civilization that evolves as a course of nature on top of the whales back?

Or a civilization that discovers and settles atop the whales back?

>>10768906
Yeah, Terry Gilliam totally invented that idea.

>>10768883
It has been decided by the dice gods that it would be a whale.
You do not disagree with the dice gods.

>>10768925

... Pratchett, you mean.

And its fair to say he popularized the notion...

What is the whale's anal circumference?

I was thinking, the whale has Gravity Manipulation, right? So, all the light in range in pulled in, giving daylight, when the whale is asleep, and giving night when it is awake and can consciously control it's ability.

>>10768956
Unspecified, and hopefully irrelevant.
>>10768924
The latter would be Science-Fiction, the former open to all genres.
Which is preferable?

>>10769018

When in doubt, go with Fantasy.

It has enough cliches that it will be readily acceptable.

In before cliches are necessarily a bad thing.

It obviously needs to be futuristic fantasy.

Blasters powered by magic, "force" melee weapons, and power armor with built-in Displacement Shields.

Great hordes of soldiers and heroes will fight for control of and the fate of the Space Whale.

>>10768987
While light is unaffected by gravity, we can just shout MAGIC at it until it works.
So, light runs on GRAVITY MAGIC.
What sentient species live on this whale? Humans, space elves, space dwarves living in barnacle mountains, some sort of robot?

>>10769065
OH GOD WHALE WARS.

>>10769018
Giant Space Whales That Control Spacetime are already Space Opera, not Hard SciFi. Maybe a mix of both? Once you're on the whale, you can't escape because of the Gravity Field?

You know, it might be neat to have a sci-fi invader force at war with the fantasy-based locals. Magic vs. pew pew

>>10769065

Hell yes. Warriors in rune-carved power armor and shields, wielding blades of crackling force alongside autoblasters?

God, it's like Warmachine meets Dune meets Warhammer 40k. I think I just came. Oh, goddamn; I just came again.

This just in: I cannot stop ejaculating.

>>10769065
Gravity manipulation could become a very important concept, akin to magic and science.
Force weapons that hit hard because of gravity manipulation would be interesting.
>>10769103
I think more important would be WHERE WOULD YOU GO? You're on a giant whale moving through space. It is impossible to map the Galaxy from this sort of point.

>>10769080

CETUS BELLUM!

WHALE WAR!

>>10769065
Reminds me a bit of Drowtales: Daydream. http://www.drowtales.com/~daydream/liriel.php?cid=1

>>10769123

Christ. OK, so, remember in the Dune miniseries on the SciFi channel when the fremen and harkonnen forces were battling in Arakeen and you see the two sides rushing at each other, firing madly as they charge? I imagined that.

Except there was rune-armor and plasma bolts, and essentially lightsabers and lighaxes. Also, Warjacks.

Oh BABY.

>>10769183

But what would they be fighting over?

Perhaps one of the by-products of the whale's om-nomming of stars is some sort of valuable magical substance...

Whalespice. Not seriously, but something that functions as the Object Of Desire.

Probably a power source or something that's needed to use MagiTech.

Was the technology created by those who wield it, or should they be relics from the Time Lords? Sort of like technology in WH40K, where they don't really understand what they're using but can replicate it?

>>10769239
WAR FOR THE BLOWHOLE!

Nature Manipulation of the Whale's own SpaceTimeGravity Field could be 'magic'?

Internet is glitchy, not sure if said already.

>>10769239

The blow hole.

Every few months or so, it expunges refined materials.

He who controls the blowhole controls the whale.

>>10769272

>>10769239

So kinda like Ambergris, but with heavy elements?

>imokwiththis.jpg

>>10769295
>>10769301
Probably some sort of combination. The Blowhole should be a strategically important area, but not auto-win if get.
Maybe attach a religious signifgance to the area, as well?

>>10769301
>>10769301

I'm tempted to start drawfagging and writefagging.

Guys, we need to hold on to this. This could be a fucking AWESOME setting.

Someone mentioned rune armor?

What are the runes made of?

The Refined material the whale blows out of its blow hole.

Its not 'excrement' as that comes out normally on the whale.

But something... else?

>>10769355
Holy ambergris?

>>10769355
>>10769355

I mentioned the Rune Armor under Anonymous. I only NameFag when things get good.

Anyway, I'd say the armor itself is powered by magic, made possible by the WhaleSubstance. The runes allow the magic to function as desired--as a power source and also to strengthen and lighten the armor.

As nighttime fell, the miners of the Great Deep began their excavation, safe in the knowledge that they would not be swept away by It's terrible expulsions of precious materials.
The easiest materials to collect were those which were geysered infinitely high into the sky above during the day, but at night was when the experts like Austin did their work, rappelling down to collect the heavier, more valuable materials that collected on the walls during the expulsions. It was dangerous work- some men would not come back up in the morning, their ropes snapped- or cut by the monstrous creatures below.

>>10769535
I'd imagine that, when applied to armor, it also serves as a 'ward' against weapons, some sort of gravity dickery.

>>10769657
Ah, huzzah, writefaggotry!
I'll develop this through /tg/ as long as it take to reach something similar to a full setting, and writing will be greatly appreciated. It'll help give the setting a more complete feeling.

What races should be seen on the Great Whale? Old favorites, something completely new? Should they fit into their typical niche, or something new?

>>10769662
>>10769662

For flavor, we can say that the magic responds to an attack with a burst of gravity/ kinetic energy in the opposite direction that is proportional to the speed and mass of the weapon it's being attacked with.

So if a person with an axe hits the armor, there will be a white flash and a sharp CRACK, and his arm will be thrown back with the force of the warding spells.

>>10769779

We can go with standard archetypes, but just really refluff them.

How about this: a race that has given up their lives to become undead cyborgs--part flesh and part MagiTech. They constantly wear suits akin to the Quarian suits in Mass Effect--suits covered in arcane symbols--because their undead appearance is hideous. They worship MagiTech, and are sort of like Tech Priests from WH40k in this regard. They are VERY good with MagiTech. They favor Tinkerer/ mechanic-style classes that use advanced MagiTech, such as heavily-augmented fighters and Technomancers.

HAY, I TAKE OFFENSE TO YOU RETCONNING MY CONTRIBUTIONS.

>>10769848
Mhm, and the violence of the response will be proportional to the value of the armor.
Of course, there was to be some method of overcoming this resistance. Gravity melee weapons? Guns? If guns, then we'd have to somehow balance that.

>>10769915
I myself am partial to a Dwarf species that lives in space-barnacle mountains.

SO, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE BESTEST CHARACTERS, THE WRAETHTHU?

>>10769932
>>10769932

We could have the ability to "Overcharge" guns and armor. So, an attacker could overcharge a gun or melee weapon to deal a lot of extra damage at the risk of causing physical harm to himself and depleting ammo much faster. Likewise, an armor-wearer could do the same.

However, if a weapon that is overcharged enough hits an armor that is sufficiently overcharged, it could cause severe damage to the attacker and defender, as well as their weapons and armor. Magical feedback effect that extends over, like, 100 yards and causes damage and malfunctions in MagiTech.

I considered it, and planned to, but people seems to think it's a bad idea.
They will therefor be retconned.
I am sorry.

>>10770001
Eh, sounds complicated and difficult to write up rules for. But I like the idea of massive gravity explosions knocking everyone off their feet.
Maybe gravity armor is just immune to mundane weaponry, and gravity-weapons just make an attack roll to hit as normal.

>>10770052
>>10770052

Nah; not complicated. How about weapons and armor have 3 stages of charge; 1 is normal, 2 is medium, 3 is high. If a medium charged weapon its a medium charged armor, the medium effects apply. If a high hits a high, the high effects apply. If a medium hits a high, the high effects apply.

You'd have to make the consequences sufficient enough so that hitting an overcharged opponent with an overcharged weapon IS NOT desirable at all. Say, you lose 1/4 to 1/2 of your HP (depending on medium or high charge level) or are stunned for X rounds, and all magitech within 100 yards ceases to work for X amount of time.

>>10770002
Oh, c'mon, you can't think of anything for the beautiful androgynous flowerdicked Mary Sues?
You need more imagination.

>>10769740
Not a problem, namefriend- I'm always happy to practice my writefaggotry for a good cause. ...I just don't do it often enough due to laziness.


Austin rappelled down the wall, fifty feet... a hundred... five hundred... a thousand... deeper still, until all was dark but for the faint light below of a consumed sun sputtering it's last breaths. A touch of his safety helmet brought vision, the dim green glow created by magic compressing certain key elements together.
All around him, the walls shimmered with vast deposits of metals, gems, and stranger elements, those which civilization relies on for all it's facets, from agriculture, to industry, to war. Hanging from the rope harnessed about him, he opened one of numerous bags worn on his body to begin collecting minerals. Slow and steady, picking flakes from the walls left Austin plenty of time to think.
He had a family back home, his mother and siblings. Father died in the last war, and so Austin moved far skull-ward to be able to earn enough money to support the family. 20 gold was his monthly salary, and he wired nearly all of it home to them, keeping just enough to feed himself- thankfully, room was provided by the company.
And so he mined on, tapping away at the walls, moving ever further down as the night went on, unaware of the danger that awaited him...

(Sorry that took me awhile, got distracted by roommate showing me another thread.)

Oh, I see. I was making it far more complicated in my head than was necessary.
Other thank disabling magitech, I like it. It's that it's a bad idea to have it disable magitech, it's more that parties of players are almost ALWAYS within 100 yards of eachother and I can see this very easily pissing off players quickly when their shit gets disabled because they either overpowered an enemy or were overpowered themselves.

>>10770173
Hmm... the whole magitech guns bit reminds me a lot of the guns in Outlaw Star- the guns are mostly mundane, but the bullets themselves contain magic of different strengths.

By the way, just to give you guys an idea of scope, the largest star has a surface area of approximately 113,097,335,529,232,556,584.65 square kilometers.
The Gravity Whales are meant to be able to eat this sort of thing.
Should we perhaps scale it down?

>>10770141
Thanks, mate. You're providing a lot for us to expand on, I appreciate it.

>>10770258
>>10770258
>>10770258

HAHAHAHAHA NO.

Dickishness aside, I like the huge scale. The viewable action could be confined to some small area of the Whale centered around the Blowhole...but all of that territory could make for great adventure opportunities. Virtually unlimited.

We could just say the area for hundreds of thousands of miles outwards from the Blowhole can sustain life...but the vastly overwhelming majority of the areas outside of that zone are inhospitable.

>>10770333
Hmm, maybe the Blowhole generates heat? So as you move farther fro mteh blowhole, you get colder, until eventually you can't survive?
This would create a problem for the freezing whale, but magic. And Time Lord nanobots.

>Wraeththu have been redacted. They are not workable in a setting, at least in a way so as to make them GOOD.

I'm shocked and disappointed y'all even tried.

I require sleep, comrades. I have a D&D/Dark Heresy/Rogue Trader session tomorrow.
I'll copy this thread down and post a summary of ideas tomorrow or Sunday. You all keep thinking and writing, fill me in on your ideas when you next see this thread.
G'night.

Why not live INSIDE the whale? Heat, materials, nourishment, all there for the taking.

>>10770258
>>10770295
Again, no problem. As for the sun devouring size, you might have a point... perhaps they only eat small to medium sized stars? Red Giants are near the end of their lives anyways, and probably aren't the tastiest or most nutrient filled. Neutron stars, on the other hand... delicious.

Cuthulu horrors live inside the whale.
Not hospitable.

>>10770462
It was decided in the original thread that they don't eat much, after all, momentum in space doesn't require energy to maintain.
Any fissionable material will sustain them, and even then not much of it.

Writefaggotry. Perhaps you will like? This is by no means canon AT ALL.

Kr'sai. The well of life. Fountain of All.

It sustains us. It sustains ALL of us; the Rolani, the Sk'sane, the Aroleth, Jiska, Lhareen, Mujal, and more. It is the center of all of us. The Old Books say that life began at Kr'sai, and the prophecies say it is at Kr'sai where all life will end.

From what I've seen, I side with the prophesies. The City of Kr'sai has never in all history seen more than 15 years of peace. The Wardenship of the city and the fountain change hands from faction to faction, and joint rulership fractures even more quickly than this feudalistic model.

The Well is life, and the Well is strife. It is our blessing--the source of our power and technology--and our curse.

The City is burning. The smoke over it is thick and hued with yellow and blue and green and purple, from flame and magic.

The City is burning, and we march to reclaim it, we who have been dispossessed of our Holy Land for nigh on a hundred years, we who will not suffer the Heathens to desecrate our holy place with their dogma.

The runes of our armor glow with power. The glyphs on our weapons crackle with death. Our will is strong, our faith is stronger. This city is OURS.

>>10770506

Speaking of which...how the hell would years be measured?

Perhaps there is a reliable blowout from the whale's blowspot, once every year or a few times a year?

Idea: since the radius of this blowhole would MASSIVE, cities and nations form around it like an ocean. The Blowhole gives off a constant, strong but manageable updraft - one on which specially made ships can fly.

We now have a navy.

>>10770535
"Old Faithful"
Yeah, that would work.
"How old are you?"
"Oh, I just hit my thirtieth blow last season..."

>>10770572
>>10770572

I vote for this. Airships, bitches. Airships. Perhaps the updraft eventually gets pulled back down to the whale and forms a sort of ever-shifting jet stream over the whale's body so that airships could even go outside of the well...but the further they go from the well, the more unpredictable the shifts are and the more perilous the journey is.

>>10770605
Just make sure you aren't sailing when the Whale needs to blow.

>>10770632
>>10770632

Oh god. Sheer terror. On one side, there's birthblow parties. On the other side, potentially catastrophic airship failures if you fail to plan ahead and dock before the blow.

Anyway, I'm off for the night. I may drawfag or writefag tomorrow if I get the time.

>>10770632

Oh, there are sailors when the wind blows.

Can you imagine all the materials blown up into the sky?

There will ALWAYS be people that risk the dangers to collect valuables.

Ladies and gentlemen?

Sky Pirates.

>>10770715
A'ight, I should get off, too. Goodnight.

>>10770721
I am imagining some sort of extreme sport for the rich youth involving being out past the rim during a big blow.

>>10770721

Oh holy crap.

I'm fairly convinced this setting is on its way to epicness.

Someone archive this shit now.

So, we've got the daring few that risk life, limb and perhaps even soul to venture into the Blow. They are completely badass. Possibly even insane. They are the Storm-Runners.

>>10770762
*Sigh* Sadly, my own gaming group will be too immature to accept this setting without a copious amount of "Blow" jokes.

>>10770752

I can see that.

>>10770791

The trick is to get it out of the way quickly.

You know, just being out on a ship for any length of time is bound to collect SOME valuables. Some of the finer material will inevitably cake onto the hull of your ship.

>>10770853
Come to think of it, people will need to wear some sort of rebreather to avoid inhaling said particles.
We now have a cause of lung disease.

>>10770853

Some kinda... ship resonance thing?

Specially refined and processed 'Greisluminum' (for lack of a better term) attracts more of it to their hull, which they scrape off and store on board.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW8-MYYmKOA

Thats how I see the airships.

>>10770923
I can dig it.

The /tg/ archive is a good place to store /tg/ related stuff.

Its where we traditionally store things.

>>10771027
I was never sure what the prerequisites for archiving were, if any.

>>10771082

You can technically archive anything.

Its up to other /tg/ users on the archive to vote for it.

So, should we then? I was just going to copy the thread and summarizing the ideas next time I posted it.

>>10771183

Go for it.

Next time you start up the thread, reference this thread.

You could probably archive the rest of the threads.

Though I'd copy paste into a word file just to be safe as well.

>>10771217
Done, which means I can sleep soundly and review the thread in the morning. 'Night, for the third and final time.