>>12837061
>IM GETTIN' OUT THE PIG!!

Wut.

Sounds like some backstory

>>12837090
>just watched Red with my mom, since she isnt allowed to be around for my 21st birthday this weekend... seemed good enough to be a thread starting quote.

"First, you need to choose an element. Then you have to focus on it and truly focus on it, until it feels like its part of you. It's hard to completely explain until you start to feel the element you focus on."

I assume we also have the gloves here, although I will be so annoyed if someone breaks one.

At the beginning of this quest thread, i completely ignored it, lets them all pass by. didnt even skim them.
Until recently.
Where, for some reason, I sat down and read it all through. All twenty five. Dice hated you, ladies loved you.

Bravo.

>>12837100

Ohhh, congratulations in advance them since I assume CQ won't be on then.

the trick is to focus on the elemant that best describes your personality. if you are stubborn and unyielding, then earth is you elemant. if you are passionate and outspoken, then fire is your best bet......and so on and so forth.

>slow night or did you just get here?

>>12837061
. . . I just watched RED the other day, and despite expecting what the pig was carrying, we still had a good laugh over it. And my face when the lady was actually a spy...

Follow through with whatever was planned prior? Are teaching smiths fire elementalism? And the surgeons life?

>>12837061
Welp, best give them the basics.

>XXXI Merncer
I think the captcha just gave us a named for a new unit.

>>12837137

>Only just started.

>>12837117
>I'll be making up for it, tomorrow and Sunday night (probably LATE Sunday) and thanks.

"Well, you need to discern what element appeals to you. Dont pick what seems interesting, think of what fits your personality, your life." you reply dropping into a meditative stance and motioning for your pupils to do the same. "The elements are earth, life, water, air, and fire. Think on their traits, focus on the one that seems to be natural to you, focus on its presence around you. The campfire, the jug of water, the breeze passing through the tent, the ground your sitting on... the other people in the room" you explain as your pupils mimic you. "Close your eyes and try your best to feel it. I have training aids I can lend to you all once you know what it is you will be training on." you instruct as you begin to meditate as well.

>roll for meditation, and tell me if you want to pick up terrakenisis or stonesense instead of continuing your focus on fissures.

rolled 48 = 48

>>12837190
Rolling for Elements, maybe stick with our fissures, as having two lightly trained aspects in battle might be worse then one specialty.

>>12837190
Someone else roll since I haven't been too hot with my dice rolls recently. I think we should keep it up with the fissues and improve them honestly.

>>12837190

Can we get a rough idea of how our abilities will be after we pick them?

Like how well will we be able to sense stuff and such.

rolled 22 = 22

>>12837190
Rolling.

Also, what's are the details of terrakenisis and stonesense again?

Oh speaking of which I've come up with two concurrent plans which can help us get people into the enemy camp.

The first step is what I call the Indulgeo (to forgive) Directive:


Legal combantants who have surrendered after a battle can be allowed to return home
once the engagement and post-engagement operations and activities have been concluded.

In order to do so, they must swear a pledge to never again take up arms against the
Empire. Names will be taken and combantants who have agreed will be 'marked'.

Those who fail to uphold their agreement and return to their armies will be treated
on par with criminals and will be executed or cruxified if they are captured once more.

The objective of this directive is to show that the Legion is willing to
show mercy, once. Word will spread to those who will, in contravention of their plege, return to their armies. The fact that there is way out will encourage those who are wavering to desert or surrender more quickly. This will result in lowered morale in the enemy camp. Should the commander want word to stop, he will be forced to imprison them, tying up resources, sparking rumours and lowering morale once again as the common soldier questions why their compatriots are being imprisoned.

This allows engagements to end earlier, reduce our casualties since fighting may lessen as well as reduce our baggage train in that we do not have to lug around captives when we relocated. This will also earn us goodwill when we eventually move on the offensive.

>cont.

rolled 99 = 99

>>12837190
I think some stonesense wouldn't be amiss. It would be nice to be able to track our foes and know about ambushes.

>>12837227

Finally the actual plan.

Operation Atra (Black):

From our recent engagements, we have taken 20 mercs prisoners. These men should be released along with those who have agreed to the Indulgeo Directive.

This, will allow us access into the enemy camp.

Their cover story will be:
That our merc captains were miserly and would not hire them. Thus they were released along with the rest of the regular personnel. They will then attempt to sell themselves to the remaining merc units in the camp.

Their objectives will be to:
-Forment discord in the camp, drunken brawls and such. They should not get involved but help encourage it by getting troublemakers drunk and so on.
-Attempt small scale sabotage to the enemies tactical reserves, namely flying cavalry and any remaining seige.
-Poison or destroy enemies' existing supplies, burning them or by some other method, making them more dependant on incoming convoys for supplies. Combined with Blackbird's Raiders, this will severly affect morale and readiness in the camp.
-On our eventual raid on the enemy encampment, to at a pre-arranged signal, eliminate as many guards as they can, set fire to essential stores, tents and secure important prisoners.

To do this, we should speak with our rangers and scouts for help identifying local plants which can cause a debilitating effect on humans or elves. Should such posions exist, they should be gathered and given to them to bring back with them. Failing that, Aquila should be sent to Normz to procure as much of the 'stool he can fly back.

In order to ensure the merc's loyalty, an upfront payment should be made to those who agree on the inflitration mission. This money, will be help in trust until they return from the mission. Upon their successful return, they will also be gifted a portion of our battlefield spoils.

terrakenisis: throwing stones with your mind, shaping them into different forms (the floating stone armor Khalless gave himself for example) basic levels would be about fist sized stones, mild shapability (roughly cone shaped at best) not a whole lot at once.

Stonesense: feeling things through the ground. basic levels gets a rough idea of the immidiate area (rough number of things moving, direction and speed the kind of ground around you.)

>>12837227
Lugging around captives is a good thing, though. We eventually ransom them or bring them back to the empire as criminals. Maybe crucify them.

Of course, it's less important than in Rome, where they would take captives as a sort of war prize like gold and armor. You could sell them when you got home, you see. Slavery is not condoned in the Empire though.

rolled 94 = 94

>>12837233
The enemy mercs we rehired, were they Dwarves in light mail? I cannot recall.

>>12837238
What about the next level of fissures?

>>12837238
Stonesense sounds extremely useful on the battlefield in later engagements. e.g. feeling the whole battlefield / no ambushes.

>>12837255
small localized quakes

>>12837254
humans, equipped as your elf mercs, (well, sub out one of the axes for a weaponized mountain climbing pick)

>>12837247
What ever happened to good ol' fashioned Gladiator Arenas as well?
If such practices still go on in our nation, we could consider funding our own school, could earn some very able skirmishers and heavies that way.

rolled 39 = 39

>>12837238
I think we ought to go for terrakenisis for now.

Stonesense would make for great benefits command-wise, but given how we lead from the front we'll probably want to get another offensive/defensive tool at our disposal.

>>12837254

Humans and elves I believe.

>>12837280
Degnar has tracks and arenas. All the fighters of course are heavily indebted indentured servants, whose debt was transferred to a gladiatorial trainer, POW's whose ransom was never paid and criminals of the worst sort. Most dont live long

>>12837286
I still think improving fissues is more useful. Especially since we're outnumbered in terms of infantry. Making better fissures or just localized earthquakes would be hot. It would help in taking out their pikemen units and cavalry.

>>12837233
Even then, we have to remember the prospect of being turned on by the mercs, the fact we dont want our troop scale and capabilities given to the enemy.

And that the remaining Mercs at the enemy base might not hire on the 20 men to being with.

>>12837247
Speaking of which, I proposed in the last thread that we send a message to Flumenos stating that we need a couple of units to drop by our camp to take some prisoners off of our hands. If I recall correctly our holding pens were practically full, and I don't want to have an entire unit needing to baby-sit out captives when a major battle comes to us.

>>12837276
Stick with fissures. It's got the rather handy endgame of being able to point and blast apart fortification walls, which frankly neither of the other paths can match.

Well, I suppose that a very high level of terrakinesis might let us construct fortifications, but that seems like an extension of the fissures path, too, since it lets us conjure stone objects.

Stonesense at high levels would probably let us detect armies from leagues away, but we can use scouts for that so screw it.


Speaking of scouts, get our scout units out there. I want to know it if the enemy comes within ten leagues of here. No more of that "stole a march on us under the cover of night" shit.

>>12837227
This idea is risky but it potentially has some merit. Still hesitant to use it though since based on Kaitlyn's reaction to seeing us, the enemy troops see us as monsters. Further, if we let these troops go, they can give intel to the enemy about our base camp interior. Something we can't really afford until we smash our enemy solidly.

>>12837233
My main issue with this is relying on mercenaries. Now, if we could convert Janos to our side and he said his bodyguard was loyal to him rather than his father/their army? That would be more feasible in my mind. I'm just not sure how much we should trust mercs that we just fought.

>>12837305
Score.
And we happen to have a group of royal bodyguards as our prisoners, though that could really only be the case should the Son not turn against his father.


But this also gives us another avenue for threats!

>>12837311
Good point. Okay then lets go for upgrading fissures.

I think we should send out a letter to the other commanders about the eclipse that will happen in the next week. Let's warn them that we can't be 100% sure that it will happen but we believe it will and they might want to keep that in mind when they are planning their future operations and such.

That and we need to find a way to use that to lure out the enemy from their camp during the eclipse. I mentioned at the end of last thread we should try to make it look like our army is out in the field so they go out to meet them but I'm not sure how well that'd work. If we could burn a large portion of their camp down, we'd have a nice advantage. Especially if Blackbird does successfully raid their supplies.

>>12837322

Hence the choice to keep their payment in trust, along with promising them a portion of battlefield spoils.

This keeps their reward with us and they're free to keep any signing bonus they receive from the enemies' merc units.

We have a reward awaiting them. Should they attempt to sell the info out, they might not get as much or they might just be tortured for info if they try to haggle.

It's very dangerous and uncertain for them to try to double-cross, more profitable and safer to stay with us.

>>12837367
Speaking of Blackbird, how long do Orcs live, Orcs of the Old Tribe? I get the feeling like that the war focuses orcs were wiped out long long ago (And here we are finding one of the last, who wishes to rekindle that bloodline, and we're encouraging it.)
If they're not killed in battle of course.

>>12837373
Not necessarily. A) The enemy would expect the mercs to give them intel on the insides of our base camp, which could hurt. B) The one son who is supposedly the cunning one. If he is as CREEEEED as our luck has been this campaign, he might see through this plot. Kind of why I don't think luring them out into the open will work during the eclipse... Gah. So hard to think up an offensive strategy that won't cost us too much.

>>12837338

We can use the blindfold method to release them. I doubt they've seen much outside their cells and interrogation room.

If we can fully convince Janos to switch sides, we can get him to recruit his most loyal. However I'll be worried of such a homogeneous command. I'd rather he lead a unit of some of our men. Should he try anything, he'll be dead.

You rise from your meditations when you hear everyone else in the tent shout out in surprise. For a moment you dont know why, then you realize that you are shaking the ground, you grin sheepishly and stop the small quake. Looking around you see that the breeze around Wulf is now buffeting his hair, but no one else's, the smith has a small collection of pebbles in front of him now, the Felixsian has a spattering of water on his fur, and the surgeon, looks more or less the same. Jayne is still in her meditative stance, completely unfazed by the excitement.

>well, whats the next part of the lesson?

>>12837409
Oh our troops will definitely join his command in the future but I'm just thinking now. The prisoner pens also didn't seem to be very secure in preventing them from seeing things so I doubt they have been hidden from a lot of our camp. The less the enemy knows about our camp the better, although I still wish we knew how those assassins got in. I'd be annoyed if we had a spy. I bet it was the cunning son's idea to send the assassins too.

>>12837373
>It's very dangerous and uncertain for them to try to double-cross, more profitable and safer to stay with us.
>safer
>more profitable

Yeah, both have yet to be seen. Also, you do remember that the enemy outnumbers us, right?

And if they make it back to their base camp we wouldn't be able to exact retribution on them without fighting the rest of the army.

>>12837439
Hmmm. Perhaps talking to them about the applications of the elements they have picked? We don't know as much as Laelith but I think we still have some knowledge on that. The idea of our smith using the earth in some way to improve his work makes me pleased.

>>12837404

The merc's testimony can match that of the prisoners, that they were led in and out blindfolded. Otherwise we can give them some false info to sell.

Regarding the younger bro, I have to concede I've not been able to come up with a foolproof plan.

>>12837439

how did everyone do?

proceed to break out the gloves

>>12837439
Get out the gloves. Warn everyone to be careful with them; give Wulf the air glove, smith the earth glove, the Felixian the water glove. The surgeon doesn't appear to be experiencing much success- but he could just be going for life, so he can have that glove if he asks for it. Jayne seems to be capable enough that she doesn't need one at the moment.

>>12837460
Agreed. If we had given the enemy a decisive loss, I would be more on your side but we haven't done much to make them cringe. We took out a scouting party and some troops his most useless son in combat loss due to not listening to his orders. For all he may think, we just won due to surprise and incompetence on part of his commanders.

>>12837439
Time to break out the training aids and distribute accordingly.

>>12837439
let them meditate using the gloves for their respective elements.

>>12837396
Old CLan orcs live about 200 years, where the Young Clans live 40 or so years. Young Clan orcs are averse to anything that creates negative emotions as they have zero control over their feelings. Hence the "Sullen Mountain" clans name, for quite a few generations they will see mountains as horrible, terrible, sad places (and once they get on the war path, they stay locked on it for generations, as Young Clan orcs have no real coping mechanism aside from either embracing or running, and running from war tends to get you corpsified)

>>12837471
And still, Sending a Merc and a Spy to be interrogated are two fully different things. A simple mercenary has not be trained how to lie, they could slip, and the whole thing could be shattered because someone cant keep a story straight or wont stop sweating bullets.
They will be questioned, they will likely slip, and we will lose our advantage and 20 troops.

>>12837460

In terms of personal gain, should they double-cross they'll be assured of only employment from the enemy mercs since:

1) They might just refuse to offer them any reward for the info.
2) If they try to haggle, they just might get tortured for the info.

So in terms of safer propects (guaranteed rewards), we'll be offering the better deal.

Outnumbered? Of course. Hence why I'm desperately trying to come up with ideas to undermine them without fighting.

>>12837541
Asides, they've already been recruited to the Elf mercs, meaning they've been removed from the pens, and may have been seen walking the camps.
The spy avenue is lost.
Glad i recalled that before it was too late.

>>12837526

I'm hoping for them to play to their stereotype: loud, boorish, uncultured swine, would slit their mum's throat given enough cash.

Questioners would get irritated and just wave them through, believing them not to hold much useful info.

Of course, we can bring in some of our camp torturers to give them some quick (non-painful) lessons.

>>12837569

In gameplays time, the day has not passed yet.

We can put them back in, saying that the merc commanders just tried to hire them for a ridiculously small sum of cash. Which they outright refused.

>>12837541
On that note, I think we should put some of those traps that will collapse when heavy infantry/cavalry go over them right outside our base. If they do assault us, we have some lighter troops or archers sit on the other side of them and see if the enemy is stupid enough to charge them. A sudden hole in the ground would likely disrupt any cavalry charge.

If we want to hurt them with minimal fighting, we need to make sure our scouts are out there watching changes in enemy movements during the next week. If Blackbird is successful enough, they will have to start patrolling the plains and we have to try to pick them off as they do that.

"Very good. for tonight I think I will simply do my best to explain some possible uses of your elements, and give you training aids before we return to our meditations. Hopefully we will be able to practice by sparring by next week." you announce, handing out the gloves and explaining their function.

Wulf looks at the white and purple gloves "What are those for?" he asks, donning the gray glove, and pointing at the white and purple ones still in the chest.

At wulfs question, Jayne raises an eyebrow and responds "Trust me, unless you want to end up needing a hug from Justinian, you dont want to know." she answers. Wulf shoots a sidelong glance at the Noble, the others merely raise eyebrows or act as if they didn't hear... the usual in your maniple when you are conversing with any of your ladies.

>I never thought I'd get to say this but, IM GETTIN' OUT THE PIG!!
>IM GETTIN' OUT THE PIG!!
>THE PIG

... we need incendiary pigs

>>12837596
We do have to reset the traps that were set off when the nobles attachment moved on us. Apparently 2 merc companies fell to the traps, so we have to gather that salvage.

>>12837603
"I'm trying to figure it out myself honestly. Consider them dangerous at the moment though until I can find out what exactly they are and what they do."

>>12837617
I suppose although I wonder if it'll work again in that area. I don't see why it will unless the enemy is stupid.

Hey Pax, can we manipulate the earth to the point where we can hollow out the ground but leave the surface of it intact? I guess making a fissure but leaving the top part of the earth looking completely fine?

>>12837596
>... the usual in your maniple when you are conversing with any of your ladies.

How do our soldiers view Justinain in light of this aspect of his character, anyway?

>>12837596

I hope they still work but I think we're at the end of their usefulness besides area denial. Their scouts seem very proficient with what they do.

>>12837617

When we were far away. In all likelihood, that would have been picked up by the enemy already.

Lets not forget an increased guard this time, if only we'd held onto some nvg paste... Sneaky bastards would be seen over their first hilltop.

>>12837705
Right. We need to get our doctors/surgeons/whatever to look into the nvg paste and see if it has long-term harmful effects. I want to know if this is a one time use thing we have or if we can abuse it during the week. I doubt Pax would give us something that awesome all week long but it's nice to dream.

>>12837705
We do have the recipe from Blackbird, y'know.

>>12837655
I imagine it's something along the lines of "Hell yeah, you tear that fine ass up commander."

Soldiers are generally pretty bro about that sort of thing, in my experience.

>>12837648
not yet...

>>12837655
the men mostly see you as lucky/lucky in that regard, though a few are of the "all commander all the time, no monkey business" mindset

the women either are jealous of your small harem, indifferent due to their own distractions, are find you boorish.

"I honestly dont know, to be honest." you reply to Wulf, shifting your gaze to Jayne, who quickly withers under it, squirming and returning to her meditation grinning a little "But they are most certainly dangerous to those who cannot utilize the powers they channel." you finish. The rest of the night goes quetly, and by the end of it Wulf is shifting a light wind about the room, your chef has a small raincloud floating about release its payload on someone. The Doctors body seems to have a traveling flush circulating it, veins bulging under the red skin. Your smith has formed more than a few stones into small triangles, and Jayne has finally settled down again. All but yourself are now sweating profusely however.

>end the lesson, or push them further?

>>12837752
Curses. If we could, hilarity would ensue.

End the session for now. They've made better progress than we first did in one night when we started. Let them rest.

>>12837752
>*Lucky/awesome
>*or boorish
>I really should check my posts before I submit

>>12837752

keep pushing them, remind them they can take breathers if they must

>>12837752
End it. This is great progress, we don't want them to overwork and be afraid of it.

>>12837733
Okay, several things we want to do now:
-Have physicians examine Blackbird's night vision paste.
-Send a message to Flumenos requesting some units to take most of our captives off of our hands. (Maybe we should hold on to Janos and Kaitlyn.)
-Contact the other commanders regarding the possibly impending eclipse. Ask for their thoughts on possible tactical or strategic opportunities.

>>12837745
The soldiers know that there are at least Four ladies in the Commander's gaze. Three of which seem to be battling each other for it. Shame about Kyria though, we dont seem to be giving her much attention in regards to everyone else, or even in a while.

>>12837779
True, but there just isn't much chance. We interact with all the others regularly. Maybe we should see if she has any more ideas for weaponry and spend some time with her talking about her arm and why she has that huge amount of perfected steel set aside. (She said she wanted to remake her bones with it, if you remember.)

>>12837779
Apparently Laelith knows she's too sexy to stoop to catfights, heh. Or maybe it's just her general awkwardness with everyone in the maniple but us?

>>12837807
Yeah, she forged herself an entirely new shoulder out of Perfect Ateel with one of the lizardmen heat amulets, Alone, While in her injured state, that alone impressed the hell out of me.

But yeah, we should end this.

>>12837807

every time we get an opportunity to talk to her about her past we just go "thats cool kyria, HEY SANSA!!"

we've had the chance to find out her back story, we just usually dont care enough to find out

something about her failing to keep her dead father's forge going or something like that

>So, where do you guys wanna send Aquila to first then? FLumenos or your fellow Commanders?

>>12837752

End it.


With regards to my previous plan, there was the question of our force composition being revealed. I do believe that with the flying cavalry, he could have a full overview of our camp and our forces. Furthermore, those units participated in the previous battle, where we had all our units deployed. Unless they believe we're holding units in reserve, they already have our full maniple compliment.

Regarding the chance for betrayal, one option during our eventual attack on their camp would be for them to begin their disruptions at a pre-determined signal (perhaps the signal ring). After this, based on what we can observe, we can choose whether to engage or fallback if the plan was compromised.

In order to prevent an ambush, our scouts will obviously be deployed before hand to scout the area. Any sign of mischief and we will then withdraw.

Based on my read, I'd say we have much to gain and comparatively little to lose on this plan.

>>12837526
well we won't really lose 20 troops, we'll lose 20 mercs who sided against us in the first battle. I'd say that's a pretty decent risk to take.

>>12837844
Commanders. Intelligence is always important and the quicker they have this info, the better their chances of making it be useful. We can afford to hold on to the prisoners for now.

>>12837841
To be fair, it seems everyone likes the other girls more and we don't HAVE to stick it in every girl we see.

>>12837855
Hmm. It all hinges on if his air cavalry have been able to scope out our camp then... We do have that large tower preventing them getting from too close, so they might only have a far view of our camp. Meaning they wouldn't have a full list of our maniple and forces. We also did not deploy all our units in the last battle, keeping the warlords and rangers out of it.

If the air cavalry haven't got as much intel as you think, I think it's too risky to send the mercs. If they did have it... Your plan is a lot more feasible in my mind since we won't give away intel. Hmmm. Perhaps we should ask Janos or Kaitlyn if their air cavalry has scouted out the camp.

>>12837807
>>12837840
>>12837841
Note: We need to talk to Kyria soon.

>>12837844
Contact our fellow commanders first. We can contact Flumenos after that.

>>12837872
Oh but she's also shown an interest in us, we battled through raiders to get to her when she was injured. Had we not pushed ourselves as we had, would she have survived?

And i'll be damned if we dont go for the chance of the spunky bubbly curvy dwarf lass.

>>12837844
Flumenos first

>>12837872
Well 'I' kinda like Kyria. She is a busty, peppy, blonde dorf girl, after all.

>we don't HAVE to stick it in every girl we see

Please, we haven't slept with anyone in our maniple.

...

Yet.

>>12837950
We totally slept with Sansa if I remember correctly. We were both just too smashed for anything to result and we still barely knew her at the time though.

>>12837903

Actually, I fear they already know the entire layout of our camp.

An encampment of more than a 1000 fighting men and they knew exactly which tents to send assassins to.

We're also assuming that the infiltration team only consisted of 3 assassins and that they didn't send one back with info.

In the worst case scenario, they already know they need; which might explain why they're taking their time.

And I also say the bird should go to the commanders first.
The nobleman might feel safer knowing his men are being taken care of right before his eyes instead of being carted away by legionnaires

>>12837959

i dont think so tim

she's still shy about revealing her lady parts to us so i dont think we've danced the horizontal monster mash yet

curse you Pax, why must you give us so many options?

>>12837959
No, I think we just got smashed and both went back to the barracks and crashed. I don't think any sex happened. Did it, Pax?

>>12837979
A fair point. Another thing we need to ask Janos when we get him to see our way... I wish he would just jump ships quicker so we'd have what we need to do something with more confidence, heh.

One reason why I don't think they know that much about us though is the fact Janos' attack was a probing attack. There's not much point doing that if they know what your opponents forces consist of though.

I have an idea, build a decoy base somewhere to the right.
this will give the impression that we have recieved reinforcements (we have to make it look like its ocupied) which may make them think twice before attacking.
and we trap the hell out of it and the area around it so if they do attack the decoy base, the traps would give us time to get behind their force and attack it.
sound good?

You dismiss the class, and tell them that they are to return the gloves to you, and return here in two days time for another lesson. You rise late the next morning, and begin your day by composing a brief letter to your peers warning of the coming eclipse, making sure not to sound too alarmist Simply a friendly reminder as you know most military men dont watch the star charts very closely, and an event as infrequent as the Black Week is often forgotten while in the field.

Next you take the recipie for the paste Blackbird gave to you your physicians. They estimate that they will be able to tell you its likely side effects in about three days. And several set out for the forest you are guarding almost immediately to gather supplies to make some for testing.

>Aquila wont be back until tomorrow, so is there anything else you want to do, or skip ahead until one of your seeds develops?

>>12838000
>>12838012
Hence why I said we were too smashed for anything to result. We just conked out to sleep and nothing happened. I believe we both collapsed in the same room though, which was the joke in that we slept with her. I guess that doesn't go through as well over the net.

>>12837950
Nah, we haven't nailed anyone yet but I'm thinking next time we are back home it will be inevitable, if not before. The only question is who.

>>12838000
So that he can pull a Jade empire and have all of the love interests decide for us.

>>12838037
I think we should hold a general meeting with our captains. Let's get their opinions on the situation and on what we should do. Just a general state of affairs I guess and it lets our captains voice their concerns.. Plus, let's let Kaitlyn and Janos meet for a bit. Let's see how our seeds have grown in their minds.

>>12838037
Well we did just say we wanted to see how our Dwarf tinkerer is doing.
We should also try again our attempts with the lovestuck son.
>>12838028
The decoy base is in the middle of a valley between two high elevations. The Cunning Brother would think us far too smart to be stupid enough to put a base there.

>>12838028

to be honest, im gettin' kinda sick of pussy footing around

what are our numbers compared to lord strant?

can we meet him full force on the plains yet?

>>12838025

True that but we need to let him stew. Rushing the cooking process leads to a bad meal.

Probing attacks are also done to see how the enemy reacts. They might have know of our force and camp but not the commander.

We also need to take into account that the attack was conducted the day after the assassination attempt. Meaning that this was a test to see, if the attack succeeded, whether the new commander was incompetent... Hence why Janos orders were to withdraw... Damn... Thats... smart...

>>12838072
My rough estimates put us at outnumbered by around 700 troops. I believe those were conservative estimates so the real number might be a little higher.

>>12838025
>One reason why I don't think they know that much about us though is the fact Janos' attack was a probing attack. There's not much point doing that if they know what your opponents forces consist of though.

Good point. We can assume that they know where we are, but not necessarily that they know the full details of our detachment. The assassins may have been operating autonomously and they may not have been able to gather more intel for their Lord given the probing attack.

>>12838093
Yeah that's why I figured happened. The attack and the assassin's happened too close together to assume otherwise. It also makes me wonder why they only picked Sansa, Jayne and us as targets though and not our other captains.

>>12838070
Seconding seeing Kyria. We need to check up in her.

By the way, have we been having the archers practice AA drills to in preparation for fighting winged cavalry again?

You make your way over to Kyrias tent, for lack of anything professional to do, you decide for something fun. The is reclined in a chair in her smallcloths and a robe sashed at the waist. On her small table is a small stone, strange etchings carved halfway around the deepish bowl in the center of it. Kyria is looking at a battered old book, hammer and chisel in her hands. When she hears you enter she turns to look smiling she stands salutes and salutes, her robe coming together from the waist down, not bothering to pull the top together, as she is still covered "Hello Justinian, how can I help you?" she asks, after you dismiss her salute, as she drops back into her chair.

>>12838112

Probably because the 3 of us were ruining their shit on bear cavalry. Kinda makes you a big target.

So what about the plans?

I'd like to push forward both plans and I believe I've covered alot of possible situations and continences.

They might fail but then we can't win everything. We just have to try and plan for more fallbacks and hope the enemy planned one less.

>Metaing: we can't wait for them to attack as Pax has already said the waiting game is the harder one.

>>12838093
They hadnt counted on a fire elemental though, nor had the brother/father counted on their nobleman to withdraw before the thread became to grave. Nor may the Widow (as I suggest we refer to the remaining wife) realize the extent that we're moving ahead with the elemental arcane items we now possess.

>>12838112
Ourselves and Jayne I can understand, attacking the key peoples in the units. Sansa on the other hand, well it baffles me. Could they have just chosen poorly? Do they believe Sansa would've taken the reigns as a new commander should we have fallen? Or could it be that there is an even greater part to Sansa behind this...
Could there be a traitor somewhere, higher up in our nation, with reason to have Sansa exterminated?

>>12838162
"I just wanted to check up on you. We haven't been able to converse much outside of the business of equipping your unit."

"How's the arm, by the way?"

After that, we ask what she's doing now.

>>12838164
I don't think we can do the prisoner one with releasing them. Not yet. From what we know about the enemy commander, when it comes to his men, he only pretty much cares if they're fighting. Plus, we're outnumbered as it is and our threats aren't very promising until we've bloodied their nose. When we've done that, it might be worth considering.

In regards to the mercs idea... We'll have to talk to the captain of the unit they joined but I honestly don't think it's a safe plan. They could sell us out far too easily for more money and just leave the battlefield altogether. Or be used against us. Our opponent does seem pretty rich since he's supporting all these expensive troops on his own. Outnumbered as we are, most mercenaries would assume we're on the losing side. It's something I might support more if we were doing a lot better in the numbers game. At this point, any loss we take is going to hurt a lot I feel.

>>12838164
I suggest we wait until we get feedback from the other commanders. They may want to coordinate a strategy given what we've informed them of.

>>12838205
I agree with Maximus' thoughts on this.

Let's wait until we've really hurt Lord Stant until we try any risky deception.

Anyway, I need to go afk now. As usual, I'll be watching this thread on my cellphone.

>>12838162
She's in charge of a scout unit, right? Let's tell her that we're concerned about how rapidly the enemy was able to approach last time, and get her opinions on how many of the scouts we can afford to dispatch out on actual scouting missions, as opposed to keeping around for use as ranged forces.

>>12838070
sorry, I had the heights reversed.
something like this mayhaps?

>>12838072
its not pussyfooting, its planning.
he expects us to act brashly and try to break him by force

>>12838201
This, whilst walking about her tent a bit looking around, We really havent had the chance to see the way she treats her home, with really the only times seeing her relax being in the hospital or one of the many partys we throw.

>>12838205

Unfortunately, the merc plan will not work without the release of prisoners. Without that, they have no cover story.

Ask her about her arm, and what she is doing. Also about how she got all that perfected steel and if she has any more weapon designs.

>>12838269
True. I think we should hold on them for now then. Stant's men have no reason to think they'll lose this campaign at this point. Their other fronts haven't fallen yet and we haven't really hurt them. Letting the prisoners go at this point will only buff their numbers more. When we hurt Stant and his men bad and if our other fronts aren't falling apart, I think we will come back to this idea. I just hope I'm assuming Stant and his cunning son are smarter than they really are.

"I simply wanted to check up on you" you reply, looking around. Her tent is controlled chaos, goups of books and related items are strewn about, the chest they came in sitting upturned and unused. the piles are all neat in their own manner, though you doubt that anyone but Kyria would be able to tell what is where in her tent. The tent is by no means a mess however, no food or refuse is strewn about, and all tableware is clean and in a small chest. "See what you have been working on, how your arm is." you continue, pulling the empty chest over to Kyrias side and sitting on it.

"Well enough Justinian. I still cant raise my left arm very much at the shoulder, I doubt it ever will, but with my repeater I dont need to aim so its all well enough." she replies; shifting the arm in question forward and raising her forearm at the elbow, bringing the chisel in line with the next blank spot in her smallish stone... basin? She begins carving another strange symbol into it, checking the small book she has frequently. "How are you, commander?"

>>12838295

How many prisoners do we have now anyways?

The reason why I'm trying to advocate the deceptions at this stage is precisely because we're at a major disadvantage in manpower. We can't hope to whittle them down piecemeal all the time, that smart brother will probably see what we're doing and attempt to crush us with a full assault before hand. Our forces would also suffer due to attrition.

Furthermore, once we have the advantage, we don't really require much deception as we can easily crush them on the field. It's at this point when we're outnumbered that disruption, sabotage, sowing confusion and weakening morale will give us a big advantage.

>>12838361
"Tired of thinking up strategies for the moment. Our opponent isn't making this campaign a simple affair."

>>12838361

Tired

ask her how she feels about our command so far, any constructive criticism

ask her about her life before the legion, and what she plans on doing once she retires

>>12838397

also, ask her what she's doing with the stone

>>12838361
"Been better, Assassinations are rather new to me. I suppose I should feel a little complimented that i seem that much of a threat." Try to get a better look at that book of hers, Dwarven?
"You know Kyria, I've been training with Jayne, on what we've discovered in our last campaign. Her powers could help you with that arm, give you some more freedom of movement.

Things, I hadn't thought to be possible ever again... And here i am, in control of such powers thought long lost."

>>12838374
Well, getting to the point of having the advantage would require multiple battles and it'd take awhile for that to happen but I see your point. I still think it's too risky though. Unless this plan goes through perfectly, the last battle can be concluded as a total loss to us since we would of gained way too little. Plus, now that I think about it, letting the enemy prisoners free now might be terrible for the morale of our troops since we are outnumbered.

"Tiered" you reply honestly "And curios, I suppose." watching her sculpt into the stone.

"Curious about what?" she asks, setting down the chisel and picking up a chunk of flint and a small knife.

"Your opinion on my command, what you intend to do once you retire, where you got the Dwarven Steel from" you reply, as Kyria begins trying to spark some specific point in her newest construction.

"I think your doing quite well Commander." she replies, cursing quietly as she tries to get the sparks to land where she wants them to "I wasn't sure up until I started talking with Degrian, but I suppose I will start selling some of my more... mundane creations once I'm out of the Legion. The steel was a gift my father gave me before he died, made me promise not to sell it if times got hard for me, was that ever a temptation a few times." Kyria hisses in success as a spark finally hits its mark, the carved area lighting up a vibrant red, the effect going almost three quarters of the way down the line, until one turns blue and they all fade out. Kyria throws the flint and steel down on the table and begins flipping through her book again, muttering curses in dwarfish. She looks quite fetching flustered like this.

>>12838374
I think from the two engagements we have 100 prisoners, at once 120 but the mercs have joined us.

I always love reading this quest but I always get into it so late and by the time I read up to where it's at and refresh and read up again it's almost/already done. Sorta depressing, but it's a good quest. I wouldn't really know where to go with things either, I bet.

>>12838550
What ARE you doing?

>>12838550

ask her what she's trying to do with the stone and then mention that she could go see jayne about fixing her shoulder

then ask her how her dad died

>>12837227

>Was rereading my operation plan and realised I forgot a crucial bit in the first directive.

Crap...

The question first is whether they would agree to stop fighting the Empire.

If they agree, they'll have the chance to return home with all the previous post.

However if they refuse, they'll be kept prisoner.

That means in all likelihood, we'll see only about 20-40 people agreeing to no longer take up arms.

>>12838550
> She looks quite fetching flustered like this.
mention this offhandedly right before we ask her any further questions.

>>12838550
You dealt with many hard times after your father died? You told me before about your family's smithy going down, but from your craftsmanship, im still surprised that it did. Other than that I havent gotten the chance to learn much else.

How does a skilled smith go from Duchy lass to Legion scout?

>>12838613
Then there's the issue of people lying. Anyways, now that I thought about the morale implications to our own men, I can't support those plans yet. Morale is pretty low after that last battle and it won't make the men feel better when they see us releasing the prisoners with a stern warning. Not yet. Not until we have a decisive victory.

"I am rather curious as to what you are doing right now of course." you add, looking over her shoulder, the book is in dwarven, punctuated by a truly ancient looking sigil every so often.

"I was thinking that with elementalism returning, and presumably magic and mysticism as well, perhaps Dwarven Runesmithing would return as well. It was common for people to request the Runes carved into their orders, so I knew some of them. I decided to try a simple project, a runic furnace, something to melt down my new shoulder with. However it seems the books I kept are half false aesthetic runes, or mislabeled... its rather, furstrating." she replies, setting down the small book and putting a larger one on top of it. You have to lean even further to see the pages, your chin nearly touching the front of her shoulder. "Trying to get a look down my smallcloths, are we?" Kyria teases, that would be impossible considering how tightly they fit, but that is beside the point, as her comment leaves you stuttering for a response.

>>12838691
"Why, do you have something to show me?"

>>12838691
"I was thinking more along the lines of reaching around you for the book, actually."

>>12838691
>her comment leaves you stuttering for a response
This is impossible, as we are relentlessly charming and incredibly smooth.

>>12838691

i wouldn't exactly call them "small"

where did you get those books?

once we return to dragonsreach, whenever that may be, we could take a trip to the archives and see if they have any more reliable sources

>>12838691
Ah-Bu-Nno! I was simply looking at the book thats all!
Besides, It would be terribly unsporting of me to get a peek without earning it.

Other then that, the runic power seems to be back, maybe Khallus' notes had runes in them. What repercussions could runes returning to the ducherery be to the Empire?

>>12838732

Perhaps the dwarven nation to the south of our current position might have better books?

Also, is that where Finian is from?

>>12838691
Magic Roooooons laddie.

...if she gets good at that, having runic weapons would be awesome. Heavy repeating ballistae with runes of flaming ammo, anyone?

>>12838832

our own personal anvil of doom perhaps?

>>12838847

runes of flaming strength and endurance on spite's barding.

>>12838862

btw, what ever came of the shock stones we took from the gnomes?

can we experiment with long range artillery powered by the stones?

>>12838728
>well not verbally stuttering, but mentally, "grasping" would have been a better word. you werent expecting this much forwardness from a subordinate.

"Actually, I was trying to get a better look at your, books." you reply after pausing to think over your response.

"And why is that, you cant read dwarfish." She replies, before taking up her hammer and chisel again and begins attacking the offensive rune.

"I suppose I simply wanted an excuse to sneak my arms around you. Its only fair, since you did the same to me once before." you reply, Kyria pauses her chiseling, and even though you are still looking at the book, you can feel the heat of a flush from her face for a brief moment. "I'm surprised that your fathers forge failed after he passed, considering your skill." you add, returning your makeshift seat.

Kyrias face is already cooling by the time you are situated again. "Well, he was forced to take out some loans from some of Degnars... seedier elements, to open the shop. When he died they took much of my raw material as a payment, and placed orders that they expected within a month for my next payment. All this during the same month that the HighPass Academy graduates most of its Captains and starts the testing for Commanders. By the end of the third month I was so far behind on both my legitimate orders and payments that I had to take out another loan. The first cartel decided that I needed to be taught a lesson for doing business with a rival, so they vandalized my shop. The other cartel retaliated, at my expense again. Two months later I was run out of HighPass." she replies, no emotion left in the story, but hesitant to move on.

>>12838862
HERE I GO!
This Bear Of Mine Is Burning Red, It's Loud Roar Tells Me To Grasp Victory!

>>12838876
Well, so far you've been invaluable here. If you want to set up a shop again after you get out of the Legion, well... I have been thinking of making some business investments myself, and I both trust you and can see that you are skillful due to both what you are doing now and your ideas like the repeater.

>>12838876
And this is why loan sharks suck.
We totally need to do something about that later.

Maybe once we're rich and powerful we should offer her a loan to open up a workshop or whatever.

Bloody hell, I just realized who we should be talking to for advice at some point. Gaius and... Leader of the warlords. They're experienced veterans. If anyone has anything that could help at this point, it would be them.

>>12838916
Seconding.

>>12838941
agree

>>12838876
Place your hand on her shoulder.
"I know the story turns out better towards the end, would you like to continue?"

Sounds like we have some criminals to deal with in high pass.
A high ranking commander would cant very well touch, but two bottom feeding scum and their goons...

>>12838973
We don't have any right to just do that in High Pass though. Maybe if we were assigned to police keeping or something but some random commander walking into the city and leading troops to clear out criminals? That will only cause problems for us. This is one problem I don't think we can handle anytime soon until we start up a political career.

"You have been invaluable to the maniple. I am beginning to formulate some of my own plans for business if I ever leave the Legion, and would like very much for you to aid me, if you would like to of course." you reply, rising form your makeshift seat, placing your hand on her shoulder.

"Thank you!" Kyria replies happily, her usual joy over being praised overriding whatever emotions were beginning to rise. You slide your hand down to her sash, and begin walking to the exit of her tent. By the time Kyria realizes what is happening you are folding the sash up, and you are out of the tent before her suddenly addled mind can formulate a response. You smile to yourself, pocketing the sash before anyone can notice it; Kyria will have to come to you this time.

>so meeting, or Gaius and Uurist?

>>12838941
Seconding that. We are silly for not recalling those valuable resources.

>>12839015
Who ever said we'd be leading troops?

For some reason, when i think og Blackbird, i dont see an Orc. I see the big gorilla commander from planet of the apes

>>12839036
Gaius. He has dealt with elven archers before. See if he has any specific advice or tactics.

>>12839036
We need a Pimp Hat.

>>12839036
If we can do them both, grab both Gaius and Uurist.

>>12839089

We have a pimp standard gifted by the Emperor himself.

We do not need a pimp hat.

>>12839108
Three minds are better then one, lets get them both.
Plus Uurist has the badass I work 5 jobs to pay the bitch of an ex wife and tax collectors

Sash in pocket, you gather Gaius and Uurist to the top of your tower, where you are sitting and having a quick meal while you wait.

You finish eating as they arrive. "How can we help'ye Commander?" Uurist asks, saluting and taking a seat across the small round table from you, Gaius sitting in between the two of you.

>>12839133
Get their overall tactical appraisal and specifics for dealing with elf archers and flying knights. Those are by far the most dangerous units to us.

>>12839117
...Can we put the standard on the hat?

>>12839150
"I need your minds gentlemen. We're not in a simple position and I'd like your thoughts on our situation. You're both more experienced than I am and I'd be a fool to ignore any advantage I can get at this point."

Hey guys, let's make a bunch of racks of torches out of wood. Like, holders. They will be space one man-space apart on a huge rack and one soldier can carry them. There can be like 10-20 torches per rack. Then when we are going to make an attack we have one of our units (maybe the mercs) spread out and form a line so that it looks like every 20 men is really an entire unit.

The trick would be, we would put those fake units in the field and the enemy would see the torches and deploy to meet our "units". But we will have really snuck our entire army into flanking positions behind them while wearing nightvision paste.

BAM huge ambush, wiping out the entire enemy force.

>>12839230
I suggested something similar in the last thread but I'm not sure how well that would work. Simply because I'm wondering if the cunning son will see through it although if he does, I suppose it's not like they can mass attack us since it'd be too dark. Secondly, I would suggest we attack their base camp rather than hit their army simply because if they do march out with their whole army, their army is larger and may win just from sheer number. Hitting their base camp means they have no supplies and a few days of hunger and thirst will do tons of damage to their army without us doing any real work after taking out the base camp. Of course, I doubt they'd leave it abandoned so we'd still have to do some fighting but it's something worth thinking about.

>>12839230
There are flares which can light up a battlefield for a bit, i wouldnt put it past them to not use one.

>>12839279
>>12839276
Maybe, but maybe not. If we are afraid of flares we just use them from a long way off and they will see the torches and have to send at least some scouts out that way. Every man they send out into the dark is one we can jump and kill with our superior nightvision. Especially if Blackbird has formed some sort of commando unit black ops ambushing force.

"Your appraisal on the situation would be much appreciated. We are outnumbered by a force of roughly equal experience that is well commanded. I would be a fool to ignore the council of my two most experienced officers." you reply, sliding a map and piece of parchment with your most recent estimate of the enemies forces to the two commanders.

After a few minuites of the two studying the situation, Uurist gives his response "Ye need to even the odds more. The traps were a good start, but from what I'm seeing the enemies to smart to fall for the same ones again. An ambush would be nigh impossib'l with the terrain, and due to the fighting none of the locals are anywhere near to recruit fer help." Uurist takes a breath, and looks over to Gaius who is nodding in agreement before continuing "He expects you to go for the brute route, frontal assaults an'the like. You need finesse at this point, and you need to outdo whatever slippery plan the bastard is no doubt ready to drop midle'a next week, by my guess at least. We thinned the fucker down in this last fight so he's lookin' ta get his numbers back to his old marg'n, or lop a good chunk'a ours off."

>cont'd...

>>12839310
That's a thought... Having scouts out there just sending out flares to make it look like we're up to something. Make them paranoid and maybe send out troops.

Hopefully Janos is more cooperative by that week so we can find out what arcana they might have.

how many reinforcements could we get from flumenos Pax?

Gaius runs his hand along his smooth skull before providing his own input "Uurist is right, the Uurlanthi bastard is too clever by half. With Elf bowmen and Valkerie knights you cant afford to send any units out alone. Even at half strength the armored sergeants have enough balls to hold even a battalion like mine still long enough to get the whole thing fletched to death. Throw those damned knights in there and a lone battalion or two is as good as doomed marching openly." Uurist cuts his peer off with an "aye" and a nod, but Gaius presses on "I would suggest not sending out anyone without ranged support, and be careful with scouting and engineering deployments. No doubt more than a fare share of the knights can afford long-eye's, and would spot the groups and swoop on them from too damn high for the poor bastards their going after to know whats coming at them. And no doubt now that the noble bastard knows that we know about them he's given his knights leave to do just that." As Gaius finishes he pours himself a glass of water from the pitcher on the table.

>anything else you want to ask them?

>>12839354
you could top off your Degnarian units once, maybe twice if you get reamed real bad. And if you aren't afraid to sell loot/burn personal funds you could also let it be known that you are likely to hire any mercs that are willing to make the trip. No telling what kind of mercs would show up though.

>>12839358
Ask him about the torch plan, the flares, and net-ballista.

Maybe we can use the net-ballista and a small detachment of those engineers to lure the Knights in. Then either net them or have the Hunters/Stalkers fletch them good. Make sure the Hunters are the best we have at sneaking unseen of course, it will likely only work once.

>>12839358
How durable are the elven bowmen in close combat and what kind of range would they have in comparison to our bows and crossbows?

>>12839383
I'm wondering if we should send out the rangers to do some 'engineering' work and then let them use the repeater crossbows on the knights when the come in. Risky as hell but it'd be the best time to decimate a unit of those knights and I rather do it before a major battle than during it.

>>12839383

i second this plan with the force of a thousand suns

preferrably capturing them though

>>12839358

Just like to outline the possible infiltration plan and see what they say.

Also where is their main encampment now?

Do they have any deceptions they might toss up to try?

>>12839358
Finesse is a bitch when you can't get enough information to be clever because your scouts will be killed. We can set more traps, maybe get some units to lie in wait concealed somewhere (risky), and of course we have more elementalism tricks to whip out. And there's Blackbird pulling whatever he's pulling, although the fact that we can't coordinate with him effectively means that it's hardly an ideal arrangement for striking the enemy.

The best idea I've got is setting ourselves up with some heavy repeating bolt-thowers with double swivel mounts, so that they can be used against both aerial and terrestrial targets. Then keep a sharp eye to the skies, and next time they try to use those sky knights we fill them with meter-long shafts of wood as thick as a man's fist. They would probably be damned effective against other troops as well, as long as we can get them into position in time to make use of them. If we put the bolt throwers on mobile wooden platforms, we should be able to make a veritable heavy weapons unit- perhaps ten of them, manned and moved around by a group of five men each (gunner, spotter, loader, aimer, teamster).

>>12839418
Kill what we can. They're too dangerous to go running around and I rather kill more overall and capture less than only capture some. Besides, the permanent loss of his knights would be a larger blow to the morale of his army than them just being captured although both would hurt to be fair. Receiving news that one unit was wiped out though? That would shake them especially after how the last encounter went.

>>12839452

if we captured them then they would permanantely lose their giant eagles, thats the entire reason why i want to capture them

There is a possible plan...

Are the wagons from Degrain ready?

Load them to the brim with our heavy repeaters with nets + hook ammo and cover them with tarp.

Have Jaynes cavalry escort them with another unit, heading towards Stone Fort. If possible, have them all armed and semi-trained with crossbow repeaters.

When those knights come down, FIRE EVERYTHING.

>>12839479
Fair enough. I guess I'm just paranoid of the knights trying to break out though. Although now that I think about it, wiping out a unit in battle WOULD be useful. The pride of their army, the valkyrie knights, falling from the sky in large numbers? That would be something to lower their morale.

Ah well. Take em down outside of battle if we can is still best.

>>12839497

add us with our own repeater leading the convoy and i'll put my sign on it

>>12839497
Lure them in with them thinking false supplies eh? I like it. Even if the heavy repeaters aren't ready, we might still be able to do that but fill the wagons with our rangers or other ranged units covered in tarp until it's too late.

>>12839497
You think Jayne may be able to feel the heartbeats from that far away? It'll have to be something we'll ask her.
Though i dont think we should pull away all of our weapons platforms just yet.

The fun part is, the enemy doesnt expect the siege weapons that we've modified to be that long range.
"S'ok everyone, we're just out of the catapults range now, now, dont forget toASDSGHDTSQUADBROKEN"

You outline your plan for next week, both Uurist and Gaius nod in approval "The catch is avoiding taking too many losses before then" Uurist states plainly. "The false camps would have to be set up at night, and hidden from view until the festival, but... I like it." Uurist replies.

"The elf bowmen can fight, but they tire to quickly to hold out for more than a few minutes without aid." Gaius replies to your questions on the bowmen. "The small repeaters should work, but after one or two passes the riders will just stay out of their range. The bigger ones they wont be able to outrange and stay active on the field, I'd imagine; but the bolts will move so slow that a good enough rider would be able to dodge the spray unless you wait till the last moment to fire, wich they wont come close enough for. After one battle using them I would expect the riders to break into small, loose flights instead of their large groups. My men can form the Echinoprocta, and perhaps shield half of the rangers or scouts, or all of the hunters inside of it once that happens, but aside from that, or some serious work on Laeliths part I dont know what to tell you after you use those assets the first time."

>>12839537
We should really not try this if the heavy repeaters aren't ready. Attempting such a deception and failing miserably would be a very bad thing; we'll want as much firepower as possible on hand the moment that the trap springs.

>>12839537

degrian said that five heavy repeaters were done and that was a couple o' days ago

we just need to train our engineers to use them then load them in to the improved wagons and rustle up some repeaters for jayne and her wing

our scouts, rangers, and jaynes wing should be enough

we of course will be with the cav sporting our own repeater

>>12839536

I think we can't afford to just leave our position. Hence having Jayne, who was targeted by assassins, lead the convoy will show how serious this mission is.

>>12839537

A large escort with perhaps:
1 archer unit
1 legionarie (Just in case and if the knights start pouring archer fire, they can go testudo and help shelter the archers)
Jaynes unit with repeaters

The reason I want the repeaters in the wagon is that theres no way else for them to be transported. Plus the nets+hook ammo will at least net us a few birds, badly injured or otherwise.

If they get attacked, they can return. If not, they can deliver a few prototypes to stone fort. Should help.

>>12839555
>after one or two passes the riders will just stay out of their range
Isn't this a win for us? If they're staying out of range of our men with bows, all we have to do is put guys with bows everywhere and they'll be largely unable to hurt us. And what, half our forces have ranged weapons? The knights can still shoot us from far above, sure, but not with any accuracy if they're staying out of our maximum range and they can only carry so much ammo.

Point is, if we can force them to keep their distance than they're already eliminated as the sort of significant threat that hit us last time, even if we can't effectively kill them. They'll pick off the occasional guy with a bow, we'll pick off the occasional bird with a heavy repeater, and overall they will no longer have a decisive impact on the battle.

>>12839607

They also outnumber us with line infantry.

Our boys are good but they can't stab and shoot at the same time.

>>12839607

so basically we'd be doing what the egyptians did to the israelis in the yom kippur war

i guess as long as we keep the heavy repeaters behind our main battle line then the flying cav is no longer an issue

i still wanna capture a few valkyries though

>>12839663

or our own griffin

>any other questions for these guys then?

>>12839674

ask uurist if he knows anything about runesmithing

I can't really think of anything else at this point unfortunately.

>>12839674
Nah, that's it. Let's set up the trap for the Knights ASAP and go flirt with Sansa or something.

"I dont know a thing about runesmithing." Uurist replies after you ask about it. Bereft of anything else to ask the pair you dismiss them, looking at the maps and trying to devise a plan to keep your foe busy until next week. at least you are fully aware of what you are facing now, you console yourself.

>I'm halfway falling asleep so I think I'm gonna call it. I'll be back thursday at 9pm server time. I'll hang around for questions until we get archived.

>>12839790
I think next thing we should do is let Janos and Kaitlyn have some time together for a bit. Not too long but we did say she'd get the chance if they behaved. We need to work on Janos if we can, since he'd be useful in finding a way to keep our foe busy.

>>12839790
Thread archived. Guess next session will be Stant's next attack on us, eh? Wonder if his more brash son will come at us this time.

>>12839754
we are flirting with 3-4 women who could kill us or screw things up for us if ever we piss them off or make them jealous.
maybe chill on the flirting?