>>12911833Picture nut fucking related at oll

HAT WEAR!?

STEP 1:SECURE THE KEYS!

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>>12911844

STEP 2: FIND A GOOD WOMAN AND GET MARRIED.

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>>12911853

STEP 3: HAVE CHILDREN AND WATCH THEM GROW UP!

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>>12911856

STEP 4: SEE WHAT THEY GROW UP INTO AND BE VERY VERY DISAPPOINTED.

>add wicked mustache and goggles
>Vostroyan

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>>12911860

STEP 5: DIE ALONE WITH A WOMAN WHO, WHILE GOOD, NEVER REALLY STIRRED YOUR PASSIONS.

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>>12911853
>>12911856
>>12911860
>>12911864
You fuckers.

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>>12911897

Nah its singular. 'Fucker'

Reznov died in Vorkuta. The numbers are a Russian trigger to set off numerous bioweapons across the US. You kill everyone on 'the list', but you still end up being the one who will kill Kennedy. The man behind the glass is Weaver and Hudson.

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>>12911935

Also Vorkuta was the best mission in the entire game outside of the WW2 Flashback, and the rest are pretty okay.

>>12911935
How did Reznov get into your mindwashing, anyway?

>>12911977
The music that played during was awesome.

So...what do you need, russian military pics?

>>12912017
I was looking for a Vostroyan character pic.

>>12912001
Found it on youtube, here it is for all to enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd0CjVPhZm8

>>12911935

Killed. Past tense. It happens sometime during the gap between the Baikonur mission and the SOG Vietnam missions, since the assassination occured in 1963 while the Vietnam missions up through the rest of the game take place in 1968.

It reminds me of the heady days of Sputnik and Yuri Gagarin when the world trembled at the sound of our rockets. Now they will tremble again - at the sound of our silence. The order is: engage the silent drive.

INCOOOMING!

"Dragovich. Steiner. Kravchenko. All must die!"

Reznov, baddest motherfucker in the world.
Except... Except for Dimitri. Damn you, Treyarch.

rolled 19373 = 19373

>>12912101

I didn't realize he was from World at War until his flashback mission, and then I saw Demitry and thought: 'FUCK YEAH! LETS DO THIS SHI-... wait. What, no. Why are they throwing us in here! FUCKERS! YOU FUCKERS! NO! NOOO!'

God dammit.

>>12912131
Dmitri deserved to die like a hero.

>>12912131

This motherfucker is the only reason I enjoyed the campaign at all. Every time he would pop in and act badass I was like "SEE? DO YOU SEE HIM? HE IS WHAT ALL PEOPLE STRIVE TO BE! SECURE THE MOTHERFUCKING KEYS FOR HIS MANLY WRATH WILL DESTROY YOU!"

>>12912101
>>12912101

I AM VIKTOR REZNOV, AND I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE!

>>12912131
Typical speach of Reznov:
- Revenge revenge revenge revenge revenge revenge! Revenge revenge revenge! Revenge revenge revenge revenge!

Even in death, Reznov fucks your shit up.
Vietcong? Reznov will stab you in the fucking ear.
Russian? Reznov will kill you with a fucking hatchet.
German? Reznov will shoot you in the teeth.
American? Reznov will shoot your one-eyed Russian friend.

Wouldnt reznov be more Vallhalan? since theyre all boisterous yet bloodthirsty WWII red army soldiers?

"Now it is their land, their people... Their blood!"

The single coolest line in that fucking game. The guy was a maniac, but he was a very, very motivational maniac.

>>12912141
In Soviet Russia, hero dies like dog!

rolled 20373 = 20373

http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0116151/

Gary FUCKING Oldman

>>12912174

He was like that in World at War too. I was so fucking excited when I saw him in this game AND THEN HE TOOK THE SPOTLIGHT!

Pic related, it was my face when "STEP 1: SECURE THE KEYS!"

Mason:' "Reznov, your men must know this is suicide!"

Reznov: "Victory cannot be achieved without sacrifice, Mason... We Russians know this better than anyone..."
>mfw I realize this is the same Viktor Motherfucking Reznov.

"The rotten cancer of the Fascist Reich ravages Europe like a plague. Their relentless drive into our motherland steals the lives of men, women, and children alike. The arrogance of their leaders is matched only by the brutality of their soldiers. These are the darkest days of the Nazi occupation of Stalingrad."

rolled 23721 = 23721

I wanna make an NPC Dreadnought named Viktor in my Deathwatch game...

>>12912245

Motherfucking do it nigga.

But you must, I repeat MUST prepare inspirational speeches for him to share, for there is no Viktor without wanting to follow him into a hail of bullets

"When the fascist reich fell, our people entered a new age.
It was not the age we had hoped for. Heroes were killed, or locked away, and the songs of our fathers were silenced.
And then they sealed me away. In Vorkuta, the sun never shined. But with the help of an unlikely ally, we toppled our prison. I died for the third time there, helping my American ally escape.
I once told Dimitri Petrenko that as long as he lived, the heart of this army could never die. Time has made me a liar, for I am a soldier in the Red Army, and my heart beats still.
Mason took the first step. But it is up to us, now, to take the second."

COMING 2012, CALL OF DUTY BLACK OPS 2: ASCEND FROM DARKNESS.

>Please, God

>>12912261
If there is any justice in this world, this will come to pass.

"We have lost many brave men, but their sacrifice is not in vain. Our tanks now form a line of steel so powerful that all German resistance will be crushed beneath it's mighty treads. Today, we will watch as Seelow falls, along with all those foolish enough to stand in our way."

Was i the only one that thought that having Viktor as a 'imaginary back to back badass' made you fight like two men at once?

..and also allowed you two open doors from across the room and help you lift objects and shit.

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>>12912257

MY BROTHERS!

THE EMPEROR GAVE US THE SACRED DUTY TO PROTECT OUR LANDS, FROM ALL AGGRESSORS! THESE FILTH SHALL NOT PASS US!

THEY WILL BREAK UPON US LIKE WATER UPON THE CLIFFS! URAAAAAAAA!

Then proceeds to lay waste with a twin linked auto cannon.

>>12912261

M-m-mother of god... If they make that I will forgive the terribly balanced multiplayer and generic gameplay, just to hear that speech coming from Vikto Reznov, the immortal soldier

>beset aratolu
Perhaps they will be beset on all sides in Aratolu?

>>12912286
And infiltrate a Russian military base despite not being a Russian.
Clearly, this is evidence that Mason is fucking batman.

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>>12912286

Gave Mason psychic powers?

>>12912261

>>12912303

Delete that, why'd you even post that?

>>12912286

remember most of the game is past tense, as Mason remembers event occurring. Mason's perspective is hardly accurate or reliable

Funny how a lot of people don't seem to note the difference between Vostroyans and Valhallans

>>12912261

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>>12912328

Vosthallans?

>>12912326

'Course, but that aint nearly as awesome as having a imaginary friend that kicks ass and gives epic speeches.. and lives on inside of you and allows you to fight as two men.

>>12912303

You will die here.

>>12912324
Apparently he posts these pictures wherever someone says shit.

Yeah... he's a loser,

>>12912261
Ooftah. Now you know why those guys lost the Cold War. They had Viktor Reznov tearing shit up behind the iron curtain the entire time.

>>12912360
waiting for verification...

Clearly Viktor Reznov is the spiritual embodiment of heroism and motivation. His ideals will never be crushed, his body may be destroyed, but he will remain, living on through those that serve with him

>>12912381
Reported, shit for brains.

>>12912387
Jesus Christ, dude.

>>12912387
Mods a sleep, if you couldn't tell yet, brains working for shit.

Shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. Fuck you.

>every soldier that was lead by and fought with Reznov will always have a bit of him inside of them, providing inspiration and direction when needed most.

>along with an extra fighting buddy, so you will never have to fight alone.

>>12912396
>mod's asleep
Is he, now?

GODDAMMIT /TG/ WE MUST IGNORE THE SHITFORBRAINS AND WORK TO ENSHRINE VIKTOR REZNOV AS THE GOD OF BATTLEFIELD SPEECHES

"Brave comrades of Vorkuta, the time has come to rise against our oppressors! Today we show the hearts of true Russians! We have all given our blood for the motherland. We have answered her calls without question. We gave our youth, our hearts, our very souls for her protection ... as brothers, we fought side by side against the German fascists. We crawled trough dirt and blood and sand to achieve our glorious victory ... Not for medals, or glory, but for what was right. We fought for revenge ... And when Berlin fell, how did our leaders repay us? We returned not to rapturous welcome ... but to suspicion and persecution."

>>12912406
This has downsides. Reznov never leaves, and he sure as hell never retires.
Ever seen a guy in a bar talking to nobody? Odds are, that man served with Viktor Reznov.

>>12912424

Such is life in Soviet Russia

But seriously we need some epic writefaggotry of Reznov showing up in other settings to inspire heroism. He cares not what side is heroic, only that their actions are those of true heroes

>>12912432
"No Mason, you must never mix alcohols, drink Vodka only, and nothing else. Also, read this in my voice."

"You can make it, my friend. You always survive."

I wanted a character pic, and this happens. I am pleased with you, /tg/.

>barfight
>Served with reznov
>punch the other guy out by standing there and watching reznov, to the enemy a invisible force beat the crap out of him.
>WHEN DID YOU DIE REZNOV. WHY?

Resnov is a ascended mortal deity/immortal..

>>12912469

And because Reznov tells you you can, you do!

Such is the power of a Russian accent and glorious speechification

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>>12912449

Damn you man. Damn you glorious glorious man.

I always assumed that the Reznov you were watching was Mason, except from some weird bits where it gets trippy. Does this mean that YOU were playing Reznov?

I would march into the Warp if Reznov were my commissar. True story, bro.

My commissar was slain, but then a charismatic man that i did not know was in my squad took to the font, and began to give his speech. it ended with "STEP ONE: ACHIEVE VICTORY." echoed by every man that could see him, including myself.

"He and us, are not so different... We are all soldiers, without an army. Betrayed, forgotten, abandoned, at Vorkuta we ALL are brothers!"

Viktor Reznov -120 pts (Replaces Platoon Commander)
WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
4 5 3 3 3 4 3 10 5+

Equipment: Flack Armor, Power Weapon, Storm Bolter, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades
Independent Character, Eternal Warrior, Aura of Fervor, Special Orders: Their Land, Their Blood


Aura of Fervor
All Imperial Guard units may use Viktor Reznov's leadership in place of their own if they are within 24" of him on the field.

Their Land, Their Blood
This order may only be issued to the unit to which Reznov is attached. If successful, Reznov and his unit become WS 5, I 4 and gain Furious Charge until the beginning of your next turn.

>>12912496

I would charge headlong into the fight with unspeakable inhuman horrors armed with nothing but a primed grenade if Viktor Reznov was my commisar

"MY name is VIKTOR! REZNOV! AND I WILL HAVE! MY! REVENGE!"

>>12912539
You are aware this ability would allow you to roll space wolves in melee with IG conscripts, yes?
...Proceed. He's 120 points and has toughness 3 and a 5+ save, I will not begrudge it.

I DO NOT CARE ABOUT NOVA!.....MY NAME...IS VIKTOR...REZNOV!.....AND I WILL HAVE...MY...REVENGE!!!"

>>12912539
This guy costs more than Iron Hand Straken. He'd better be damn worth i-
>Their Land, Their Blood
SWEET JESUS.

Y'know, I hate to sound a duff note but you do know that the Cossack-inspired Vostroyans would never associate with a Red like Reznov, right?

>>12912610
Reznov isn't a red. He's a patriot and a nationalist. They'd take him with open arms.

>>12912610
Maybe not while they're fighting the Germans, but what about afterwards?
What about Vorkuta? Nobody knows as much about being betrayed by your own country as Cossacks.

OP, try visiting the GW website. You'll be able to look at the whole miniature range then.

"For you Mason! Not for me!"

>>12912668
Magnificent son of a bitch. I made 'em pay, Reznov. Goddamn I made 'em pay.

>>12912692
as did i comrade. then i raged and played WaW soviet levels - Black Ops Reznov levels.

it was brilliant

Related?

"Show courage! Show strength! Show pride! But show no mercy!"

United forever in friendship and labor, our mighty republics shall ever rejoice,
The great Soviet Union shall live through the ages,
The dream of a people, their fortress secure...

Viktor Reznov -??? pts (Replaces Platoon Commander)
WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
4 4 3 3 3 3 3 10 5+

Equipment: Flack Armor, Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol, Frag Grenades
Independent Character, Eternal Warrior, Aura of Fervor, Orders: Get Back In The Fight!, Bring it Down, Their Land, Their Blood!


Aura of Fervor
All Imperial Guard infantry units may use Viktor Reznov's leadership in place of their own if they are within 24" of him on the field.

Their Land, Their Blood!
Resnov inspires a unit to heroically sacrifice itself for the cause. Until end of turn, the unit re-rolls all attacks to hit and wound, but may not take cover saves until the beginning of the controlling player's next turn

>>12912711
that reminds me
is the master dead or just stuck in the time-locked gallifrey/time war?

>>12912771
>the unit may re-roll failed attacks to hit and wound

retard

There lived a certain man, in Russia long ago
(He was big and strong and in his eyes a flaming glow)
The Germans looked at him, with terror and fear,
(But to the Red Army he was such a great leader,)
He could kill some Germans with a cleaver,
No fear no matter how dire, but, he also was the kind of leader
men would follow into fire!

Rah Rah Reznov's Here, Nazis trembling in fear,
There was a cat who really was down,
Rah Rah Reznov's here, Master Ppsh-ier,
And such a shame that Dimka is gone,

>>12912819
Stop hijacking Turisas's awesome songs for this shit.

As Finns, they'd obviously disaprove of this faggot.

I recall a man. A man of charisma and heroism. He lead his men with an iron fist, yet no one would question him. This was not because of his iron fist, all love him. Do you know why, my little petrenka? He spoke with heart, his speech was full of the most powerful soul one could hope for. His name? Viktor Reznov

"Our grip tightens around the black heart of Berlin. The Führer demands all to shed their last drop of blood in it's defense. The old, the young, the weak. If they stand for Germany, they die for Germany. Building by building. Room by room. One rat at a time."

>>12912830
> doesnt understand that the song is by Boney M and the Turisas Version is a cover

try harder faggot.

4/10

>>12912830
As Finns, they can also burn in hell.

>>12912864
Butthurt Russian detected.

>>12912862
You can't acuse someone of ignorance AND trolling on one post ya know, it's gotta be one or the other.

Stop the pointless bickering brothers!

>>12912882
blast. In that case I'll stick with Ignorance.

their still a faggot for not knowing when a band they like is playing a cover though.

>>12912862
>go to check Boney M's version
>fucking boring, stoic singing

You best be trollan mon.

>>12912902
about what? The Boney M song came first. that is my statement. i personally prefer the Turisas Version, even if i do think the Video is ridiculous.

Don't make me come over there and slap all of your shit. This thread is made of comrades and brothers in arms, not slapfighting like impotent homosexual nazis.

>>12912899

>Soviets
>Fascists

Ohboyherewego.jpeg

Seriously go troll some other thread with scat porn, that seems to be the theme on /tg/ today

Fortune smiles on us. In Berlin the Germans will truly see what they have unleashed. But in the midst of all the blood, the bullets, and the dead i have found who is still very much alive. Dimitri Petrenko, I saw this man cheat death time after time at the siege of Stalingrad. As long as he lives the heart of this army cannot be broken, he makes us all proud."

>>12912910
The Boney M song will be disregarded for sucking and shame on you for even bringing it up. I can now never listen to Turisas the same way.Goddamn it.

>>12912928
I thought tripfag hating was what we were doing today? Or was that just last night?

.>>12912946
dont disregard the source material bro. just feel glad someone made a better version!

>>12912944

A butthurt american, got it. Confirmed for both being ignorant of the awesome that is the glorified and totally unrealistic portrayal of soviet era heroes, and that being a general asshat

>>12912965
Don't. Ever. Call me "bro". You fucking faggot.

>>12911935
Hey hey hey
Hey hey buddy
I'm playing that game
hey hey, hey buddy
You know hey, hey you know
hey, you know I stopped reading when I got to numbers?
Hey buddy. FUCK YOU YOU DIDN'T SPOIL ANYTHING FOR ME BECAUSE I AM WICKED AWESOME AT AVOIDING SPOILERS

>>12912976
I see.
>laughinggirls.jpeg

strike some sort of nerve there did i?

>>12913002

Normally I wouldn't respond to your incredibly obvious trolling, but this thread is derailed anyway so I'll do it.

What about the soviets made them "evil"? Do you realize that when they were in power Russia had been invaded 3 times in a single generation? Almost sucessfully twice? They were fucking terrified of anyone doing it again. Thats why the Iron Curtain went up. They were bros during WW2, taking most of the casualties and whatever Germany could throw at them and still managed to get to Berlin first. They tried an economic system that in theory should have made the world a utopia.

Russia is the very definition of "we've made some mistakes along the way"

>>12913022
No, subhuman scum, you didn't, you rap loving, fratboy, I'm just naturaly "sensitive". Where did all this fucking "bro-ing" come from anyway? I blame the summerfags...

>>12913030

you forgot to mention that Stalin and friends actions do not make an evil state. merely cruel, sadistic, paranoid or otherwise mentally unhinged leaders.

>>12913022
That's not how that meme works...

>>12913030
I'm Russian by birth and damned if that didn't make me feel proud. I'm off, to go visit that game recruitment thread now, but I feel a whole lot better.

>>12913040

Typically ignorant scum like that identify the leaders with any nation that isn't their's so I ignored those helpful bits of history in order for his tiny mind to comprehend what I was saying

>>12913038
>Implying I'm some american stereotype

Ausfag here you fuckwit. try a stereotype that fits.

>>12913054
fair enough

You bickering fools! What have you done to this once glorious thread!?

>>12913059
Retarded rap loving subhuman scum aplies globaly these days. But you being Australian, I understand how you didn't yet get the message.

I must be off, but i hope when i return that this once inspiring thread has gained its glory once again!

>>12913115
NONSENSE! All commie scum were evil bastards down to the last downtroden peasant!


trolololololo!

>>12913076

Toldja buddy, identifying leaders with the country as a whole.

The Stalinist age was a terrible, terrible time. But its been looked at, and guess what? Those famines would have killed a whole fuckton of people without the collectivisation, maybe not as many people but it sure as hell would not have been pretty.

Now the land mine clearing shit is obviously false, where'd you get those ideas? Educated during the 60s in America were we?

Lastly they burned and raped their way across Germany, a great deal of that damage was done BY GERMANY using a scorched earth policy on the Russians so they couldn't salvage anything

Learn to unbias your history, my god

>>12913141
>Those famines would have killed a whole fuckton of people without the collectivisation, maybe not as many people but it sure as hell would not have been pretty.
Uh, the big famine was pretty much ENTIRELY manufactured.

>>12913141
Wasn''t done by germany, it was done by the Nazi party. Learn to unbias YOUR history.

And then all the German women raped themselves, right?

>>12913161
>If they truly didn't support Stalin, they'd have fucking risen up and done something about it. Instead they were either pretty content with it or simply too cowardly to do anything about it.
You fucking moron.

>>12913022
Hey "Adept Strelok" You stupid, stupid fucker.
I'm here to hopefully educate you.
click on this link you named fuck
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/girls-laughing

also >>12911935
you, as MASON, DO NOT KILL KENNEDY
God Dammit, are you that stupid?
in that games time continuum Kennedy, Nixon, Fidel, and some other guy I can't remember and don't feel like googling take on zombies (and prolly die while doing it)

>>12913161
It's not like Stalin implemented the Gulagh and had 20,000 officers executed just because he was paranoid, right? No, this seems like a tottaly reasonable guy to rebel against.

>>12913192
Just Indians.

>>12913136

Lets examine it from the other perspective shall we?

After world war 2 the US was a giant fucking powerhouse of terrifying industrial might, that also didn't spend as much manpower on the war as the USSR. There were multiple country's armies sitting right by the Russian border and most of whom had made it very clear they didn't approve of Communism. Lastly the US had this really giant bomb they used to nuke the japs.

That is a terrifying situation to find yourself in as a nation. That territory was held so that in the event of an invasion they might stand half a nut's chance. Continuing on into the Cold War era they now sit in a stalemate with the US, who by their perspective would like nothing better than to bomb the shit out of the USSR and call themselves just in doing so (to be fair this was on both sides, neither turned out to be right). So you hold those territories you took as bargaining chips and make sure the US can't put short range batteries or interceptors there.

The Korean and Vietnam wars both would seem to be Imperialist engagements by the US by any other eyes than the US's

Lastly I still don't know where your getting this "treated them like shit" from, most people in the USSR lived poorer but nowhere near slave class lives.

>>12913182
Are you saying that you would stop clapping first? I get the feeling that you're full of shit.

>>12913194
and putting any japanese descended citizens in campos during WWII

>>12913204
They're still dead. And were American citizens.

>>12913213
>just because the people you shoot at can shoot back.

how about when they are shooting back?

>>12913196
Right, because after the gulaghs, the reorganization into Kolcozs and the reorganisation of the red Army, i.e. 4 million dead later, you would feel inclined to rebel against this guy... yeah, right.

So be courageous, revolt! You'll be fucking shot, if you are lucky.

>>12913236
>I'm allergic to history texts!
You make me sad.

>>12913229

And the Americans were justified in taking heads from Japanese soldiers right? Its estimated that 50% of the Japanese bodies came home lacking a head, let alone the other body part trophies taken after death.

Or how about the fact that the United States gave a pass to unit 731 in order to get the research obtained by using live chinese citizens as grenade targets or freezing them alive?

If the USSR is an evil empire so is the US

>>12913214
Which was the sensible thing to do, given everything else they'd seen out of the Japanese thusfar. And they had the decency not to shoot them all.

>>12913244
Right, because entire population groups suddenly get over their fear and revolt, right? Because they know that as soon as they do, the entire country will rise with them, isn't that right?

>learn history
>learn psychology
>learn sociology
>learn politics

>>12913258
>sensible
Definitely trolling. Locking up second-generation Japanese-American sixty-eight year-old women as enemy combatants might make sense to you, but not to anyone equipped with a thinking brain.

>>12913244

Riddle me this el'fantastico, how many sucessful rebellions have there been in recent history? (rebellions, by the people, for the people. A military coup doesn't count) I can think of 2, the Bolshevik revolution, leading to communism, and the civil war in China resulting in? Communism.

The Nazi occupied France had a MASSIVE resistance set up, shuttling people back and forth and bombing supply routs. Guess what? They still had the puppet leaders. Its not as simple as you think

>>12913270
I'd post a "u mad" pic, but I think I'll just screencap your post as a future example of the concept.

>>12913270
>implying anything, ever, can be categorized as evil rather then selfish or ignorant

Tell me of this "evil" Because see, I don't think it exists.

>>12913249
It isn't easy to feel sympathy for the Japanese now. I'd rather not imagine what it was like while fighting them.
As far as unit 731 goes, that was pretty horrible, but their research was valuable, even if the methods by which they obtained it were atrocious. If there is one thing WWII taught us, it is that nobody cares where science comes from, it is equally valuable.

>>12913196
You remind me of this guy.

Just from the fact that you're on 4chan half a century later calling ordinary people who persevered through one of the worst eras of Russian history "cowards" tells me that you think real life is like DnD and videogames and that you wouldn't have the courage to do shit given their circumstances. You don't get to be the Jedi or the hero in real life. You're an NPC. Get in line or get against the wall.

>>12913289

Hey. Hey, fuck you. Southeast Asia took it up the ass from the Japanese- They had years to screw us over with, after the British fled. Those Jap bastards are raw, undiluted *evil*. They deserved everything they got, and then some- It's just a shame they didn't nuke Tokyo.

>>12913270
What the fuck has the scale got to do with anything? You've got to recognise the US did some pretty awful shit in their time and that it can't be discounted by "yeah, but they were worse". That isn't a justification of anything.

>>12913283
Please peruse my shitty attempt, anon.

Killing in self defense is fine, regardless of alignment. Murder is evil, regardless of alignment.

>>12913312
Whoops, forgot the pic, silly me.

>>12913307
Yeah, there is.
Watching someone pretend they've done something meaningful with sporting equipment on a board dedicated to the opposite of it.

You, ma'am, are fascinating.

>>12913298
Ok, then define "evil" if you are going to say an action against morals or ethics, I put to you: What about the motivation? How do you define if something is evil or not? When is it evil, when is it merely stupid or selfish?

Oh, nice Ad Hominem, by the way.

>>12913314
I thank you for that image, kind anon.

>>12913270

You only think its not on the same scale because you were raised sucking the thumbs of your biased as fuck history classes. Taught by propaganda to "HATE THE REDS! RA RA AMERICA!" Ya they did shit that no one should be proud of, they aren't proud of it. They're like current Germany, they hate those parts of their history.

Its the US who sits on the high horse and ignores everything they did that could be construed as bad simply saying "ya but look at what THEY did." Time to stop sucking your countries cock and become a citizen of the world you ignorant fox news watching, cousin raping, blacks shouldn't get the voting, abortion is wronging fuckwit

lies repeated million times are turned in truth

>>12913333
>rest of humanity
Oh you.
This board is no more a representation of the
>rest of humanity
than you are of your gender.

While I'd like to see some corroborating evidence of this "half of all Japanese corpses in the Pacific Theater were missing their heads" thing, even I've got to post this pic in response to >>12913307

Otherwise, ITT: people who have been spoon-fed their bullshit and biased versions of history from childhood on both sides of the argument meet and explode in a shitstorm of mutual fail and idiocy.

>>12913318
Fanaticism has never lead to any good, ever. Just look at history. It is compromises that really achieve things. Just think about it, how do you act with your friends? Does one of your opinions have to prevail, or can you get a consensus? And which result is better?

If you bash your friends face in over every discusion of where to have a pint, you are a pretty poor example of humanity yourself.

>>12913307
No you wouldn't, nerd. Now give me your lunch money.

>>12913289

Josef Mengele, that sick fuck, would agree with you.

>>12913359
Stop twisting the argument. The point is, no nation is without sin, least of all the US. This doesn't justify the USSR, but you are being pretty fucking obtuse.

>>12913368
... are you serious? You completely fail at reading the intent of that post? Alrighty then.

Let me spell it out for you: Shouting at people for being cowards does nothing. Especialy not retroactively. Shouting to try and overcome the criticism of your own country is even worse. Compromise man. That's how actual results are achieved.

LOOK, EVERYBODY! RETARD FIGHT!

>>12913391

You only get one life, but you can pick up a cause at every street corner.

>>12913391
Yeah, because when you aren't willing to die for something you are obviously a lethargic, uncaring fuck.

You win this argument if inly by virtue of having scared all the inteligent people off with your gibbering idiocy. Fuck this, I'm gonna see if /b/ has anything better to offer.

>>12913372
I've got no stake in this, but this argument is equally convoluted. Timmy cheats on his taxes, is Timmy expected to tolerate murder because his own soul is unclean?

This started as a defense of the Soviet Union. Sir, they do not deserve it. The Holodomor, the purifications, the Russification, these are evils without fair parallel in all of the west, even the Nazis were not so thorough in their depravity. I do not condemn the Russian man for these evils, he fought for a dream that was, ultimately, a lie that he could not have detected, but I will condemn the liars, his government and its manipulators, until the day the heat death of the universe.

>>12913410

You end up in the same place regardless. Why not end up there later rather than sooner?

>>12913417
I've been in a few riots for causes I believe in. I donate 1/3 of my salary to NGOs. Can you say the same internet tough guy? Because all I hear you sprout is macho bullshit of how you'll die for a cause, but your only cause seems to be "Lol USSR was bad". Man up, grow a pair and get the fuck off /b/.

And by the by? Extremist idiots like you is how the Nazi party arose and idiots like you make up all those suicide bombers, because they don't fucking THINK!

>>12913391
Eh, I don't know. People with causes are usually the cause of all the problems in the first place. I can't really understand why you would feel the need to go online and tell everyone about all the times you've beat people up or how you would have singlehandedly overthrown Stalin himself. I'm sure you can understand why people would question your claims.

Anyway, this pic sums up my life philosophy.

>>12913441
>I smoke weed

So hardcore. lol.

>>12913441
So you are a fucking criminal? And you are telling me I'm not worth the air I breathe? I'd be fucking happy to oblige you and let you die for a cause, whatever that is.

You are the fucking definition of rebel without a cause. You rebel for the sake of rebelling, you shout shit but I doubt you've ever been charged by police horse or hit with a water cannnon. I'd like to see you then.

>>12913450
Communists aren't fascists son... and we aren't suporting them either. We just won't stand for how you call 150 million people cowards.

>>12913441

>selling drugs for a living
>implying to have dignity
>faggot confirmed

go die in hell

>>12913429
Look, I understand you're liking the intellectual high ground right now, but I've got to call this, because this is ludicrous.
Have you read the argument you're participating in? This line of reasoning, starting at >>12913249
is patently idiotic. You are not illustrating to him that they are not as bad as he thought them to be, because they are. They are exactly that bad, it was the Soviet Union, it was an empire built off of Gulags and artificial famines. What you showed him was evidence that all nations are corrupt to some degree, as though this should detract from the purity of the Soviet Union's barbarism. It does not, that country is the posterchild for a road to hell paved with good intentions and the bones of dead Ukranians.

You are arguing with a fool, who does not recognize the inherent fallaciousness of this position, but I will not suffer you to pretend that you are somehow justified in being *amused* because he is too much the dullard to argue with you properly.

Every time wordls like soviet, russia, or communists appear - there would be a dickhead who needs to post his opinion on how terrible russian history is, even if discussian was about some kind of rus weapon or food.

>>12913472
That is true, but law is based around what is seen as right or wrong by society. Because there are so many different opinions, it doesn't hold true for everyone, but in a Democratic society a law will try to be as just as it can according to the society it judges.

>>12913484
Yeah, I'm with you. I fought fucking neo-nazis in Hamburg, Berlin, Amsterdam and Rotterdam. The fuck has he done? Sell weed apparently.

All I can say is that this guy really needs to learn what fucking subtlety means.

>>12913493
Then why do you keep apologizing America and keep demonizing the soviet union's people?

Fucking Glenn Beck 2 this guy, I tell ya.

>>12913471
You could have saved yourself a lot of text there by typing "Point of Order: America has nothing to do with this."
Which it doesn't. It was immaterial to this discussion until someone decided to bring it up, a purely emotional attack with no actual basis to it.
Now, is the gentleman in question wrong? Well yes, he is. Fascism is a very distinct ideology from Communism. The Soviet Union was not fascist, it was totalitarian, it was oppressive, but it wasn't fascist. This could have been solved with a dictionary, and you idiots decide to turn it into the national equivalent of a bible fight? Christ, /tg/.

>>12913518
Shut up namefag. You have no right to argue here. You are not mad enough.

>>12913517

Because Amurrica good, Soviets bad. Go kill bad Soviets to help good Amurrica.

In other words

>derp

That's what decades of propaganda bred well into the bone will do to ya'.

>>12913528
I'm not arguing, I'm helping clarify for your audience that this entire debate (and I shudder to call it such) actually devolved, in one of the rare literal examples I've seen, into ad hominem attacks upon each others' character in lieu of serious argument. You are all ridiculous.

And it's a shame, too. I came for the Reznov, I stayed for the 40k stattings, and I get this.

I suppose there's not much chance of salvaging this thread now is there?

I think the OP asked for something but I forgot.

Well, I've deleted as many of my posts as it will let me. I'm backing out of this and admitting I was massively unreasonable. I lost my temper over nothing and I was an idiot for doing so. Seeya.

>>12913543
Oh what, when was the last time you saw a /tg/ thread stay on topic start to finish? Never I tell you, because such a thing is impossible.

And you are a namefag. I don't need help from your kind. Go grow your internet dick somwhere else.

>>12913548
As a side note, I encourage others to do likewise.

>>12913548
That is very large of you, sir. Thank you.
Now, for the rest of you godless dogs, I deliver a Katyusha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SLvtP6KMUM&feature=related

Oh thank you janitor, for deleting my posts.

Semi-related. I'm from SEA, where Communism was a major threat shortly after WWII- Also after we got fucked over by the occupation. I live in relative comfort, thanks to Capitalism, and I'm pro-American by default, because Communism is SO MUCH FUCKING WORSE. If you asked me to make a choice, I'd obviously demonize the Communists, who kicked off tremendously riots and almost brought my country grinding to a halt.

So fuck Communism. Stalin can suck Lenin's balls in hell, for all I care.

>>12913548
>>12913558
That is not how /tg/ works son...

>>12913569
As much as I may not like their politics. I must admit that I do quite love the Red Army Choir.

>>12913556
But I am not even on my second E-cock prestige yet, where am I to go!?

>>12913558
I'll follow you there.

>>12913584
Good. I'm happy to put this ugly and stupid business behind me if you are.

>>12913569
Ahh, Johnny boy's got the right idea, this is now a Soviet Music thread, in celebration of our late Nazi-Killing machine across the sea!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs

>>12913580
Level grind. I recommend /b/. /b/ loves namefags.

>>12913591
That is fine by me.

>>12913602
NO! what are you doing? Folding? On the Internet? Like all namefags, a weakling, I see.

>>12913597
In all seriousness, I've only got this because a few of my coworkers read the /tg/ funnies (The Archives) and they like knowing which one is me. It's purely functional, and it lets me start threads with This is John Galt speaking. At least I'm not that guy who was capitalizing the first letter of every word a few days ago, right?

>>12913619
You are all the same to me. I don't even look at the names. I just see that it doesn't say anonymous and I go red in the eyes.

Anger managment, maybe, but they recommended 4chan to me as therapy, so...

>>12913629
Who the fuck recommends 4chan as therapy?

>>12913634
Someone who's a patient's killing spree away from having a revoked license.

>>12913634
My therapist. I think he was called Khorne or Khârne or something.

anyway, it's really working for me, I've never been this angry!

Look on the bright side, Angryman, you'll always have >>12913314 to follow you forever and ever.

On a random note, would anyone know where to find a decent collection of the Red Army Choir's stuff that isn't just the two CD best of collection?

>>12913679
Thank goodness for being anonymous.

>>12913178
>The meme is used to mock some ones post

exactly what i was doing, thus by that distinction, i was using the meme correctly. try again sir.

>>12913679
Er... wrong person you're talking to. I think that guy already left the thread. In shame. As he should.

>>12913695
Nah, I'm still around. I took a breather, thought about what I was doing and happily admitted that I lost my shit for no good reason. We all make mistakes.

>>12913679
A good lesson, at such a small cost! You have my envy, furioso.

>>12913694
No, no you were using it wrong. You use it when for instance I say I play Ultramarines. Then you use:

>he plays ultramarines
>girlslaughing.jpg

The context you used it in? Yeah... no.

>did I strike a nerve?
>girlslaughing.jpg

See? doesn't work.

>>12913720
A better use would have been

>he gets angry over things said on anonymous image boards
>girlslaughing.jpg

>>12913720
>>12913724
Ah, i see. it was the accompanying text that fucked it.

okay. thanks for enlightening me, ill try not to fuck up like that again.

>>12913748
Newfag. Lurk moar. And drop the fucking namefaging! It's bad enough being a newfag, you gotta make it obvious to?

>>12913762
Riddle me this. Tape or CD?

>>12913777
Tape. Definetly tape.

>>12913791
Then perhaps you could tape my dick to your forehead, so that you can see DEEZ NUTS.

>>12913762
done. only had those 40k inquisition rp things. was easier to keep it.

seems like more trouble than its worth though.

>>12913805
>deez nutz
This wasn't funny when it started, FUCK YOU DRE.

"Yet again, today we cheat death my friend. And with you alive, heart of the soviet army cannot be broken as you live, Dimitri!"

Reznov is a god-end soldier, and general badass. I wonder what happened to Dimitri?

>>12913823
Yes, well, welcome among the Anons. Now proudly go and bear your new identity.

ITT: people forgetting that between 1939 and 1941 USSR and Nazi Germany were allies and that invasion of Poland and the Baltic states was their joint operation. And that the only reason for Germany attacking Russia on 22 June 1941 was that if they didn't, Russia would invade them a month later. And that in 1940 they murdered 10.000 of Polish intelectuals and officers in the Katyn forests in such a way that even the German were appalled when they found out.

>>12913867
Black ops continued the tradition of killing the protagonist.

Except it killed the protagonist from a completely different Call of Duty

>USSR and Nazi Germany were allies
Ha, no.

>>12916674
Poland would like to have a word with you.

>>12916556

Well, you played one level (or arguably, half the damn game) as Reznov, correct? So Blops killed one of its own protagonists as well.

Anyway Reznov vs. Price. Discuss.

>>12916701
One level. The cheeky bastards snuck in a WWII level.

>>12916674
Ha, yes. The secret protocol of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact.

>>12916712
also, reznov died off screen, so it doesn't really count.

>>12916697

Well the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was one of non-aggression, wasn't it? So technically there was no military alliance. There sure as hell wasn't any military coordination in the invasion of Poland, other than agreeing upon what parts will belong to whom.

>>12916712

If Bad Company 2 could get away with it...

Anyway, I was playing off the whole "My name is Viktor Reznov, and I will have my revenge" thing.

>>12916701

MW2 crazy after prison Price, or original simply badass Price?

Honestly for both I would say Reznov wins, simply because of the epic writing associated with him

>>12916729
>Well the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was one of non-aggression, wasn't it? So technically there was no military alliance. There sure as hell wasn't any military coordination in the invasion of Poland, other than agreeing upon what parts will belong to whom.

Uh, they wouldn't call it an alliance after ten years of villifying each other in propaganda. Arguing that the name means that it wasn't an alliance is like arguing that North Korea is the epitome of democracy because it's at once People's, Democratic and a Republic.

And there sure as hell was cooperation during the invasion of Poland and other countries. Says so right even in the wikipedia article.

>>12916822

>citing wikipedia as source

Ah your being ironic right?... Right?

>>12916844
>Ah your being ironic right?... Right?
Hence the use of "even". I'm not going to cite any historical books that I have for the simple reason that they're not in English. Right now wikipedia is the fastest way to cross-check info over the internet between people of different nationalities. And yes, I'm fully aware of its faults - even the article I cited is full of traces of nationalist faggots arguing over ethnical identity of cities where it's hardly relevant.

Someone please archive this, if nothing else we should save it to show that some people can be reasonable when debating politics
>>12913548
Thank you kind anon, you have showed that the internet isn't as much a shithole as it could be

Thread got me imagining an RT party consisting only of movie badass Russians/Soviets.

The Rogue Trader - based on Ramius from Hunt for the Red October
The Arch-Militant - Reznov, obviously.
The Seneschal - Yuri Orlov from Lord of War
The Navigator - Peter Stormare's Russian astronaut character from Armageddon
The Voidmaster - Susan Ivanova from Babylon 5
The Enginseer - Ivan Vanko from Iron Man 2

>>12917740

I'd have Chekov from Star Trek as the navigator instead

>>12916803

I mean the unaging Price who fought in WW2, died on Tirpitz and came back for seconds during the nineties.

>>12917799

...and the Armageddon russian as the voidmaster instead.

>>12918048

I am tempted to make this into a rival RT crew for my players to encounter. I'd have to do a retarded amount of fake Russian accents, but it'd be worth it.