Closed face reduce fall damage and doesn't have to roll on scatter, stop being so harsh on him now

Besides, toasted makes him tougher to impact, you were a mean DM

dr

>>7604536
Life's mysteries: Alfredo or Red?

>>7604536

Technically, you were in the wrong. If he was going untoasted bread, then sticky applies, but toast takes precedence; any condiment combo that's below overthrow threshold gains 3-second rule from closed-face toast.

So, RAW, you were wrong. But peanut butter with honey is such a munchkin combo (+37 to dry mouth, seriously?) that I encourage you to stick it to him any way you can.

It's not that I'm against creative combos, but if he's running peanut butter with honey you know he's bullied someone into running straight Milk to cover his disadvantages, because the build just doesn't work without it. If he was running a reasonable sandwich build, then that guy could play what he wanted and enjoy the game more.

Alternatively... Sandwich thread

>>7604677
Pasta is OP - any savory sauce can go with it and be delicious, and even a few sweet sauces as well..

Well, as long as he removed the outermost bit of honey, he should be fine. The stuff is basically immune to biological contamination, after all.

>>7605370

Oh don't even go there. The Carb-bases are built to work with sauces.

Who would run a solo Carb build? It doesn't stack up to any other Class. You say it's overpowered to handle all sauce proficiencies but that's the Carb specialty mechanic.

It's like saying Fruit classes are overpowered because they get too many ranks in juice.

Does anyone else have a player that refuses to play anything but French food? Jesus Christ, every meal is a clone of another one (because of "tradition"), he keeps correcting everyone's pronunciation, and he's all "a true french gourmet meal would make the palate of even the most discerning critic explode" like the dude has never heard of non-Western cooking techniques.

Fucking Euroboo.

Guys, I got bullied into playing Ramen despite my strenuous objections. They said they wanted a fast-prep food in case we ran into College Students or Hungry Kids.

The rest of my group is Creme Broulee, Filet Mignon, and a totally cheesed (pardon the pun) Linguine build.

College students and hungry kids can't even pronounce this shit. What's the chances that we're actually gonna encounter them? Is there a way to salvage any build that's based off of Ramen?

My DM hates it when I run space cake on him. Sure, it has a shitty flavor compared to normal cake but everything becomes so much better after the initial phase.

Could someone please tell me this is an actual game or not, and if so post a link?
If it's not real, I think it needs to be.

That's nutella with bananas, isn't it.

BANANAS ON LOVELY NUTELLA, ISN'T IT?
ARE YOU TRYING TO DRIVE ME MAD?

>>7605460
See if you can go for Miso Soup, man. It's exotic, expensive and the same damned thing.

>>7605443
Yeah, but c'mon... ALL sauces? Meat sauces, vegetable sauces, cream sauces... savory, sweet, heavy-flavor, delicate-flavor... doesn't that seem just a bit over-the-top to anyone else?

>>7605460
Yes. Spend the points to purchase a flavor and condiments and you go from a thin, salty soup with tasteless noodles to a full meal in a bowl. A really GOOD full meal in a bowl.

Scallions, roast pork slices and hard-boiled egg are pretty much obligatory. The rest is up to you.

>>7605518
He should just go Miso Ramen then.

>>7605519
Ah, but I don't think pasta gets the chocolate multiplier that practically anything else can have. That's kind of big.

>>7605460
The rest of your party, with the exception of Brulee, are all pretty heavy. An extra light carb/broth like ramen can be invaluable in a lot of situations. Party balance is important.

>>7605531
SAME DAMNED THING. It's like they weren't even trying when they made them! You could name it noodle soup and nothing changes!

>>7605444

God damn, I'm French and these people piss me off. Yes, our food is very, very good when correctly prepared. But it is not the only good food in the world! And morons who stick to the same sterotyped recipes have no real appreciation of our culture, which includes different dishes for every season, every social class, and every tiny region!

>>7605511
I'm not sure anymore, but it should be.

>>7605555
Fuck your party balance, he's obviously getting fucked over into being the afternoon snack of a lazy hobo while the rest gets to be five star restaurant meals.

One of my players wants to play a sushi with eel and extra wasabi.

Should I kick him out?

>>7605565

UUUNNNN FROUNCEEEEE

>>7605522

Is there a splat for Ramen cooking that I don't know about? Or is this just touhoufags powergaming with Ramen because they can?

I'll start working on a build, but if there's any other official resources to back up my build I'd be pleased as punch.

>>7605522

I'd leave out the egg, he'll never make a good specialist, but he can be an awesome generalist.

Shit, he might as well go nuts, throw in some hot sauce, a bit of curry, see if his dm will let him sub out some of his flavor packet for chicken stock.

>>7605581
Yes, because if he's stupid enough to take wasabi with the eel build then he's going to fuck the entire rest of the party over through sheer idiocy at some point.

I mean, fuck, it doesn't matter whether you went unagi or anago on the eel, it already comes with sauce! Wasabi just ruins the delicate flavor!

>>7605565
You French are sick bastards.
Cow eyes? Really? That shouldn't even be on any goddamned menu creation chart! Frog legs, come on!

Fuck all of that 'exotic' bullshit. Mashed spinach, mashed potatoes and a meatball. You don't need anything else, and it covers all roles.

>>7605581
Wait, extra wasabi? The eel can be tricky to handle, as it's not a common flavor, but the extra wasabi is definitely gonna be interesting, as potent as it can be. I say let him stick with it for a while, and if he can tough it out, he can keep it.

>>7605615

Thanks. Speaking of which one of my guys is a chicken katsu but was retarded enough to use regular breadcrumbs instead of panko.

Goddamn why do I always end up with the idiots?

>>7605614
Chicken stock isn't such a great idea here, takes it too close to chicken noodle instead. Curry is way too complicated for a newbie. But a dash of Tabasco isn't a bad idea; then again, it's one of those secret ingredients that's usually misused but in the right hands can put a massive flavor multiplier on anything.

>>7605615
>>7605615
>>7605615
>>7605615
>>7605615

Seconding this with a vengeance.

Y'all crackers posting in a boil thread.

I just got the Deep South splat book. Im introducing a fried okra DMPC. I figure he'll annoy the hell out of the "fine dining" PCs.

>>7605637
Your problem is that you're getting the sort of people who run around a RenFaire with a cheap curved bit of steel and claim that it's a masterwork katana, instead of the sort of people who actually get a real katana and learn how to use it properly.

If you're going to go foreign, make damn well sure you know how to use the ingredients first. And WHY you use those particular ingredients.

You know it's true

>>7605698
Speaking of faires, you know what's fucking fantastic to troll your players with?

Carny food. I'm talking deep fried shit on sticks.

>>7605698
That's it, bullshit, Dinners and Desserts system, etc.

>>7605690

The Deep South book is good, but tends to rely kinda heavily in the Battered And Fried prestige-class. Not a good choice for those trying to run a low-fat game. However, the overall versatiliy of the class can't be beat when it come to creative flavors.

>>7605715
AD&D: Disgusting, those vegetables look badly prepared.
3.5e: What is this shit? People EAT this? It's raw fish in raw seaweed!
4e: Fuck yeah, some tasty chicken.

>>7605728
No, if you really want to troll your players carny-style you hit them with a fresh-sqeezed lemonade stand right next to a booth selling zeppoles.

I made an entire party cry once when they ran into that combo.

>>7605715
Not really.

4e is more weeaboo quazi-demon/dragon-humanoids with fightan magix then 3.5

3.5 was the edition of magic and magic

>>7605765
That's not trolling, that's just being a dick. Why don't you copy Theme Park while you're at it and put overkill salty fries stand next to an expensive soda stand?

>>7605631
>>7605663
At least the french know what the hell goes INTO their meals.

>>7605779

wtf are you talking about?

deamons? dragons??

>>7605715
No because sushi is a pretentious uncooked piece of shit just like 4e

>>7605741
Well, I'm not saying that foreign food is necessarily better.

It's just that if you're going to go foreign, you'd damn well better go all the way, because unless you've got enough experience under your belt to be able to handle fusion cuisine you're just going to make a half-assed mess of a character.

>Roll gumbo
>add Sage and Egg
>???
>Prepared for every Cold Weather encounter, only Warm Weather that beats you is BBQ and no one plays BBQ anyway.

Dinner and Deserts was better in 3rd edition, then you did more than just remove the Pizza from its box and pre-heat oven.

>>7605728
Speaking of faire food and trolling players...
The Texas campaign setting had an utter abomination in it this year: fried fucking butter. I kid you not. Fried butter.

I don't know what the fuck they were thinking, but... oh god. It's like a class specifically engineered for players that want to troll their own group.

>>7605531
Future pornstar name!

>>7605796

Oh god, why did you have to post that.

I go into fits whenever the DM brings those out.

>>7605788
Oh, I wasn't getting them on cost.

I was getting them on flavor. Do you know how hard it is to put something together that can take on the massive bonuses both zeppoles and lemonade get from a carnival setting, to say nothing of their innate stats and the Flavor Synergy you unlock when you use them together?

>>7605788
Because after a while the customers start attacking the Booths for the pop. And if it's hot out you're gonna have a riot on your hands.

>>7605806
> nobody plays BBQ
The fuck? You best be trollan, nigger. Where I come from BBQ is, like, the number one most played class. Some of the guys at our FLGS (friendly local grocery store, for the newfags) even homebrewed an entire Cookbook: BBQ because the core rules didn't cover the wealth of sauces, styles, and meats that can be BBQed.

You reminded me of this time I had two players both playing hot dogs. Only one was a New York style and the other was a Chicago style. NY tried to wield ketchup as his primary weapon and Chicago nearly PKed him on the spot. Last time I let something like that happen.

>>7605806

BBQ is good, but there's too many people arguing homebrew rules over it - dry-rub vs. wet-marinade, ketchup-based sauce vs. vinegar/mustard based sauce, pork vs. beef - I've seen groups practically come to fistfighting in those arguements.

http://www.cracked.com/article/18372_the-9-most-terrifying-attempts-to-improve-popular-foods/
http://www.cracked.com/article_14979_6-most-terrifying-foods-in-world.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_17174_yogurt-pepsi-14-horrifying-soft-drinks-around-world.html

You know what, motherfuckers? I'm not going to turn this into a game where you play as food.
No, I'm going to tinker together a setting that combines epic weeaboo, Iron Chef and Hell's Kitchen.

email for contact info in case you're interested.

My group's resident spicefag recently rolled up a chili con carne variant, which is fair enough - we're used to him picking Tex-Mex, it's what he knows and what he's good at. Except this time he's tried to take mashed potato as his favoured carb, which seems like total bullshit to me. Chili with baked potato I can see, maybe even french fries. But mashed potato? Really?

My suspicion is that he's either trolling us by fielding a dish with deliberately mushy mouthfeel, or he's figured out something that makes the chili/mash combo totally gamebreaking. Am I just being paranoid?

>>7605515
Ha, you think that's hard? I'm having my party go up against Nutella pancakes folded into a triange with sugar sprinkled on top.

They are so fucked.

>>7605896
And then somebody with the Scandinavian splat comes in and suddenly its ALL SMOKED FISH, ALL THE TIME! HOPE YOU LIKE 18 BILLION KINDS OF HERRING, BECAUSE YOU WON'T BE SEEING ANYTHING ELSE TILL SUMMER!

>>7605929
Ooh, I'm getting my ass to Scandinavia this summer! I fucking love smoked herring!

>>7605875
>>7605896

The only people who play BBQ like that are redneck conservafags who are just pissed off that IRL their cooking is shit so they try to homebrew all these bullshit awesome rules for various BBQ-style classes. We had one guy pull that shit in our group after he'd moved to our state from San Antonio. After two sessions we kicked him out.

>>7605922
Unless you're facing a character with the Weight Watchers supplement...

>>7605922

Sounds like you are trying to find an excuse to run Hamentashen as the BBEF. Id be careful running really ethnic food like that. Some players will really take offense.

>>7605910
I think I know what he's trying to pull, and it has equal potential for epic AWESOME or epic OHGODNO.

Tell me, did he also get cheese? Cheddar and Monterey Jack in particular. Because if he did, he's going for a Chupaqueso. He's going to melt the cheese, fry it back to crispy, and wrap it around his chili/mashed potato mixture.

>>7605960
In a lot of campaign settings, you don't really have a choice but to houserule BBQ. If your group finds themselves in a Deep South campaign, mundane "lol hickory" encounters will get real old real fast. Doesn't help that our DM (Dining Master, again helpin out all the newfags) has a huge hardon for the Alabama release...

>>7605922
Might I suggest something?

Orange marmalade as a hidden component inside the folded pancakes. Your players will shit bricks.

sure is /ck/ in here... when boards collide...

Every week we have the same Nachos and Salsa run. Don't get me wrong, I love Nachos and Salsa. But week, after week, after week!
And there's no dessert either, just Nachos and Salsa!

>>7605962
Are you kidding? The bonuses Nutella has to Temptation and the pancakes adding to it's aroma ability can even makes a devout Weight Watcher fall.

Although I'm not a dick DM who forces a Weight Watcher into a scenario where they have to break their diet, and lose their powers. I'll give 'em a chance.

>>7605999
Start by pulling mesquite on them.

Then move on to applewood, cherrywood, cedar...

Or wet-smoke and go with tea, coffee, chocolate, umpty-ump bazillion different kinds of booze...

I had a player last week who ended up over-salting his alfredo, screwing his penne combo. He rolled a 14 and 37 on his emergency ingredients, and all he could muster was a hollandaise. Of all the luck though his diner had rolled "unique tastes" and loved it, dude fucking won the game. I was pissed :/

>>7605991

...that magnificent bastard.

Hey /tg/, I want to make a mousaka, but I don't know what kind of minced meat to use. I'm between beef and venison because, while beef gives better tastiness and is part of the archetype, venison gives attractivity that I'm greatly lacking. Any other tips will be greatly appreciated.

>>7605929

You should try the Palt class if you find it, it's got some pretty awesome class abilities when played with butter and lingonberry jam.

Shit is rad like you wouldn't believe.

Banana and Nutella!? Holly shit I must try that. Perhaps even have the bread toasted too!

>>7606067
Lamb, goat, or a mixture of the two.

>>7605999
>implying Alabama rules aren't worthy of huge hardons

>>7606067
Use beef, since it is moussaka the meat flavour is okay, but imho the star is really the aubergine and potatoes, using venison for moussaka is a waste of good venison.

>>7606023

Good call. The fun isn't in forcing them to fall, it's in watching them try to convince themselves that they don't WANT to fall.

>>7605999
The only real downside to a good BBQ campaign is the difficulty in playig it cross-regional. If you've got, say, a classic Texas-style game going, it really is jarring to suddenly add some Georgia-style... and god forbid you toss in a plate of California-style - you're liable to get a riot from some players.

Oh great, this has turned into another BBQ thread. Fucking trolls.

>>7606097

>California-style

Vegetables and tofu have no place in a BBQ campaign.

>>7606023
I think what's happened here is that you've got a bunch of minmaxers taking only the bare minimum WW powers - enough to get the Vow of Weightloss, but not enough to make it stick in the case of an actual challenge to the program. Even more galling, they then whine at YOU for putting them into a "Dieter falls" situation, as though it's your fault that they tried to abuse the system.

A Weight Watchers player that actually maxes out their levels in WW can withstand anything you throw at them. Honestly? I'm contemplating making at least 10 levels of WW compulsory once you class into it. If you want to pretend to eat healthy, just go Nutra-System. It's like WW for pussies without the will to commit.

>>7605999
You call him a DM, huh? I've come across groups that also go with Grocery Master or Superior Taster as their name for the guy running it.

>>7605444

The term you are looking for is "ouiaboo"

>>7606097
The biggest issue is when you get some northernerfag trying to claim that they found "this one Chicago prestige in this third-party sourcebook that totally has great BBQ 'cause it's some hole-in-the-wall and the owner is from texas guys!"

That's like saying you had the best tex-mex ever at some fucking family business in new york.

>>7606124
I had a player houserule a bulimic class, he was inspired by the WW supplement and his shit was pretty entertaining. He missed 2nd and 4th courses to "freshen up" as he put it.

>>7606154
Well, New York is just generally unfair. You can justify ultimate-grade ANYTHING with a New York setting.

>>7606151
No, it's Ouiaboux

>>7606127
we us MD (maître d'), but we're euroboos

>>7606123
>Vegatables
>No place in BBQ
You run BBQ settings with no Corn on the Cob or Baked Potato?
9/10 would rage again.

ITT: Too much dinner, not enough dessert. People always forget there's more to this game than just noodles and stakes.

>>7606166
But it's still rage-inspiring. The whole point of regional separations is to prevent super-fag combos like chili con carne + pierogis. I ban New York because if I didn't, half my players would put their origin there and the other half would go there ASAP to add ridiculous flavor combos that were never intended to see the light of day.

>>7606180
I countered with shibaki Skewers, which allows me to use both meat and vegetables with BBQ.

Coleslaw and Potato Salad... friend of mine insists if prepared right they can stand on their own, but I've never seen a build that got either of them past Side Dish stages... is it possible?

>>7605940
It was ok when it was just pickled herring as a prestige class in the English splat, but after the whole scandinavian sauce books debacle, I can't even look at fish anymore.

>>7606202
Problem is, to get the really good desserts, you have to go French or Italian, and not many folks care for the dish complexity those two styles tend to carry with them.

>>7606208

Sorry, can't hear you over how awesome my Roast Beef and Wasabi Sandwich is.

>>7606224
>Scandanavian Seafood
Inb4Lutefisk.

>>7606218
Non-mayo coleslaw is a good one or two level dip for some sandwiches.

Of course, if your players are munchkins, their 'sandwich' character is going to be a multiclass nightmare of fries/slaw/salad/whatever level dips.

Thin slices of gingerbread between two slices of brown bread.

WHAT NOW, SANDWICHES.

>>7606251

Treacle pudding called. Continental European desserts are for fags.

>>7606251
You're forgetting German, dude.

Most people tend not to remember this, but the other thing that German builds excel in besides meat products is pastry.

>>7606285
Has anyone seen a competitive, or even competent lutefisk build?

>>7606251
Or go American and overload the sugar and chocolate. It's a bit hamfisted, but it works for most palettes.

>>7605999

Whatever man, we run a New Orleans campaign. DMs who run DS campaign and think that means LOLBBQ are bad DMs and need to do some research on real southern cooking and not just throw LOLBBQ LOLFRIEDX at the platters.

>>7606067
it would help us greatly if you would be so kind as to name the starting level of the character, lest we continue to dilly-dally over conjecture and unknown variables. If you would be beginning play at, say, level 6, for example, then >>7606086's suggestion of a Beef multiclass (preferably into the Mezze through the Balkan Master feat from page 97 of the The New Food Lover's Companion for a once-per-meal close burst 1 mark as a free action) and the Aubergine Expertise paragon feat from page 137 of Nourishing Traditions would be most advisable. At a lower starting level, however, you would not have the feat slots available for rendering this viable, though you could then consider Ground Lamb and Béchamel Sauce (for increasing your accuracy and thus your chances of gaining temporary hit points) rather than Tomato Sauce and Bread Crumbs.

MSG needs a fucking nerf, nothing with that cheap of a cost should cause so much damage. It's like an IWIN button.

Nutella needs a buff. It should be considered a snack along with dessert because its nutritional stats are basically equal to peanut butter

>>7606251

That's entirely wrong. Ive got a girl playing an Oklahoman Pecan pie with maple drizzle right now. She routinely blows the French and Italian desserts out of the water. She has the powdered sugar compliment so I have trouble thinking what to throw at her next. There dont seem to be many desserts capable of holding their own against the combination.

>>7606326

>American
>sugar
>implying Americans have ever tasted real sugar

Enjoy your high fructose corn syrup.

>>7606310
and they can get bonuses from sandwich builds too. always thought they were underused.

>>7606310
Shit, you're right, I did forget. And the funny thing is, I was looking over a Black Forest Cake sheet just a few days ago.

This joke still isn't over?

>>7606313
It takes some damn balance, and it's really only meant for Mid-western Campaigns and settings, so it doesn't get a lot of glory.

>>7606360
> implying you've ever seen a proper american kitchen.

Troll elsewhere. The grown ups are talking.

MAKE A FRUIT CAKE
trollpie.jpg
GORDON RAMSAY KICKS YOU IN THE NUTS

>>7606344
>equal to peanut butter
>needs buff

I'm guessing you've never played chunky.

>>7606380
Shush. It's quite an old joke and it's nice to re-do it.

>>7606344
You're forgetting the HUGE popular opinion penalty, it's even worse than for most everything else with the additive descriptor

>>7606380
Joke?

I'm waiting for this thread to die out before I show my brilliant campaign idea.

>>7606420
Immovablerod.jpg
clang what the fuck?

>>7606259
roast beef and wasabi? jokes on you, horseradish gets extra bonuses when fielded with roast beef, and a traditional modifier too.

I'm running an all-vegan campaign. Any ideas for builds that don't include tofu?

>>7606471
full vegan? Your party will probably need to go full Indian, or maybe Thai for a bit of variation.

>>7606471


>implying you can run a campaign well without animal products.

>>7606471
Vegan? OUCH. You are seriously crippling yourself by excluding animal items. You might be able to make some adjustments and get some functionality by adding beans or nuts for protein, but overall, you're more-or-less forcing yourself to require vitamin pills to compensate for the missing nutrients, and nobody likes those.

>>7606456
he was probably eating horseradish with green food colouring anyway
>>7606471
Quorn is okay for flavour

>>7606338
Oh god.

Touhou is min/maxing Dinners and Desserts now.

WHAT IS GOING ON

So are you guys actually interested in something along these terms, or are you just slapping your keyboard like a spastic fish in the hopes of being witty enough to taste a sniff of attention?

>>7606522

Hey, I got the idea from the last campaign I was in. One guy had homebrewed a Reuben sandwich with wheat gluten.

>>7606412
meh, a stealth MSG build is unstoppable, as long as it's a loose setting like carny food or home baking.

>>7606559
>wheat gluten

GTFO, VEGAN-FAG

>>7606527
If you want NIGHTMARE MODE, try strict Jain cuisine. Don't recall if they're full vegan or just vegetarian, but they extend the "no killing restriction" to any plants that you have to kill in order to harvest. In other words, no mushrooms, no root vegetables...

>>7606527

All-vegan campaigns are a whole bunch of no fun.

Run a mixed game instead. It's worth the extra work to keep a bit of inter-party tension going between the veggies and the meatheads. Especially if you can talk one of your players into taking the Atkins class restriction.

Toasting in an epic bread.

/tg/.
I love you.
I love you so hard.
I love you so hard, it hurts, sometimes.
Like flying spheres of bacon grease, shining in the morning light.

That reminds me - Is bacon a crunchy or a soft subclass? The rules aren't really specific, and I need to know, to do this over-easy-egg combo I'm thinking of. The crunchy gives the yolk ++, which makes the yolk able to overcome the closed-face toast, by turning both those pluses into one + in a given category other than texture (see optional rules sidebar 12-3). By giving the egg 1+ in wetness, I could overcome toast's Dry 3, reducing it to a Dry 2, which allows me to add one more core ingredient - wait for it - Spam. Yeah, the 2 flavor, 2 moist, 4 ease core juggernaut. Because it's in the same class as bacon, the flavor points stack, BUT because toast (white) has NO flavor points, I can add one condiment of my choosing (Miracle Whip: flav. 2).
All in all, a sandwich with added damage absorption from the toast, and the heavy Spam, with no drawbacks and a flavor of 7, and a body of 8. Of course, Presentation and Mess are in the gutters, but those were my dump stats to begin with (running a breakfast/midnight snack dualclass).

>>7606603

>>7606618
Bacon can be both crunchy and soft.

>>7606535
Quorn's the traditional vegetarian workaround, but it just won't work for a vegan party.

With vegan, you'll be ok for desserts as long you keep the sugar levels up, but for entrees and mains you'll be stuck with stuff like soymince and that can turn nasty really fast..

>>7606571

I played a two-man game of Carny Food once, I was a sugar heavy Funnel Cake and my bro was a standard Candy-Apple. Some of the most fun I've had in any table-top game.

I'm so god damn hungry right now.

>>7606618
Oh shit, I forgot Nutrition.
I hope we run into some Hungry Slobs, because otherwise I won't get any Course actions.

Have any of your players tried to play as moldy fruit or undercooked fish in an attempt to be LOL GRIDMARK?

>>7606681
Undercooked fish = Sushi

Hi guys, I'm new to this game, just started playing yesterday. I want to play a desert, but my GM looked at me like I was weird because I wanted to play a Rice Pudding with both the Cinnamon and Raisins feats. Why is this a bad/good idea and how can i make my pudding truly epic?

>>7606681
Moldy fruit = wine.

>>7606656
I hear ya on that one. Straight-up candyfloss and Pizza-in-a-Cup can be a hell of a lot of fun too.

>>7606692

There's a difference between raw and undercooked, you savage. I bet you just play as a Steak and Potatoes and try to tank everything.

>>7606648
But does it compliment the egg subclasses (soft/wet)?
It only works if the crunchy and soft have synergy...
Wait, are you saying bacon's subclasses are crunchy/soft? That's a shitty way for the game devs to get around the cook time thing that determines bacon's subclass in real life.

>>7606706

Lots of people hate on Rice Pudding but I like it.

The biggest issue with BP is that it takes condiments and flavors from the Bread Dessert table, not the Soft Deserts table, but its still group with yougerts and puddings in terms of Presentation and Opinion. I suggest playing something simpler like Cake or maybe a soufle before you try to tacked Bread Pudding.

>>7606706
on paper, rice pudding w/cinnamon and raisin is a powerhouse, but the balance is just too hard to get right - I've never seen it done well.

>>7606735

No man, at creation you have to choose crunchy or soft, you can't be both at once. Learn2RAI, jesus.

>>7606738

Oh i had no idea that BP was Technically a "gish" ... I'll go for Cake just to get used to the rules first. I think remember my GM mumbling something about Rice being one of the most broken base types to manage for newbie anyway. thanx Anon!

>>7606759
Crunchy on the outside, soft on the inside! Duh, even a primitive fruit player knows this.

>>7606681

In a Takeout-heavy party one of my players took Mutton with the Tough flaw for the roleplay angle - "unappetizing ingredient trying to make it in a delicious world", that kind of thing.

Which could've been really interesting if he hadn't then dumped a load of points into spices and taken the Slow Cooked background. Motherfucker turned into a curry with 8 ranks in Aromatic.

>>7606224
oh man the english splat. I nostalgia'd hard.

with the right batter, fish and chips stacks with salt AND vinegar AND tomato ketchup.

played it with a beer-batter and fried in lard, talk about a glass cannon...

>>7606706
I'd go with cinnamon, the raisin's +1 Nutr. Won't do you any good, and the cinnamon gives you better Flav. -AND- doesn't take any presentation points. And because it doesn't take up a Texture slot, you can add something for better Pres. - Which is vital for a dessert class. I'd recommend whipped cream - adds to present, and since it's softer than your core dish, it should stack.

What flavor pudding are you thinking of - there are some that don't go well with spices, in which case you'd want to avoid cinnamon.

Hey guys. Hey!

...

Food Network Supplement.

Goddamn it you faggots. I remember playing Spatula and Basic Dinners and Desserts. Back when the only classes were Meat, Vegetable, Fast Food, Mexican, and Italian. None of this "Mexican meat" or "Filet Mignon prestige class" bullshit.

>>7606808
You just had to bring Alton Brown in, didn't you?

My GM just said my character could have the Slap Chop'd feat for free.

I think he just doesn't like the whole preparation thing that much.

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Pasta" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Lasagnas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine lasagna in Italy for 27,000,000 lira (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid beef with my lasagna.

Italian foodsmiths spend years working on a single lasagna and layer it up to a million times to produce the finest pasta known to mankind.

Lasagnas are thrice as savory as American foods and thrice as delicious for that matter too. Anyone a steak can satisfy, a lasagna can satisfy better. I'm pretty sure a lasagna could easily fill up a fa/tg/uy wearing sweatpants with a single serving.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Italy? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Chefs and their lasagnas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the lasagnas first because their cooking power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Lasagnas are simply the best food that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for lasagnas:

(One-Serving Exotic Pasta) 1d12 Hunger Damage 19-20 x4 Crit +2 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Serving Exotic Pasta) 2d10 Hunger Damage 17-20 x4 Crit +5 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the filling power of lasagnas in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Lasagnas need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.

>>7606821

Alton Brown is a total culinary Mary Sue.

>>7606773

Where does pasta fit on that table, huh?

Should've scrapped the Moisture/Flavour system with 3e.

Guys, I'm rolling some Welsh Cawl, Taking lamb and potato obv but what else do you think I should run with?
I could be traditional and throw some Leek into my list but I could also do Bacon for extra meatiness..

>>7606821
>trollface.jpg

But, on a more serious subject, a player is playing what he's dubbed a hard-crack caramel. It's a dessert, of course, but it's hard to describe. He's got a lot of levels all over the place; two in syrup, for waffle and caro, three in sugar for a few small candies, some in dairy, he's even got a level in peanut butter for creamy, just all over the damn place.

What he's ended up with this hard as stone, ungodly chewy, terrible for you dish... that somehow works on taste alone. It's impossibly broken, but I have no way to make him quit since I gave myself the restriction of not using GM Fiat.

Help?

>>7606893
I'm unfamiliar with the build - is the potato mashed?

/tg/ - Let's fill a thread with inane bullshit and not do anything with it.

>>7606858
it would have worked if worcestershire sauce skewing the flavour charts.

in fact, worcestershire sauce should never have been allowed to cross-region.

>>7606900
Send them up against some nutrition-based or presentation-based enemies.
If he looks at bad as it sounds like he looks, there isn't a dieter or picky eater that will touch his flavorful ass.

>>7606917
>>7606893

Sounds like a refluffed Sheperd's Pie to me.. then again, I never really took much interest in British Isles splats...

>>7606917
No, it's chunky
Everything is, I guess i'm just an exotic soup/broth build really but being welsh I wanted to add a little personal spin on my char, you know?

Now, in the rest of the party there are TWO bread rolls so there's quite a bit of overlap there but it's not my place to tell them what to run, especially when almost any bread class works with me perfectly.

Going to be running a gumbo next session. I'm thinking seafood so far. But do you think my DM will let me take seasoning as well? I mean, a seafood gumbo already has about 3 different main ingredients, on top of the herbs and rice. But it's just not the same if you can't get that spicy ongoing damage, you know?

>>7606939
>HAET
Dungeons & Desserts isn't for everyone. heck, half of /tg/ is chefbot 20,000 threads - go post in one of those instead.

>>7606939
This isn't exactly new. We do this thread all the time. It's just amusing.

/tg/ - We play with our food.

>>7606951

You're missing out. Take another look at the Flavours of Empire chapter, it's got cuisines from all over the world in there. The bland traditional cooking's only a problem if you're stuck in a 1940s or 1950s setting.

>>7606943
It's a sound plan, I'll give you that, but he took two things that kinda kill it out of the gate.

The first one is... god, why can I never remember the name of it? The second one is Addiction, I know that much and the first one's the one where they don't want to, but they reason that it's just a little and it can't hurt, so they eat it anyway.

>>7606955
Here's a drawing of my character (I love fleshing these ideas out) with the rest of the party, may give you guys a bit of an idea where i'm headed with this.

>>7606966
>>7606972
You guys are missing out on a perfectly awesome idea! Hell's Kitchen meets Iron Chef meets the bizarre!

Maybe the idea is just too EDGY and ORIGINAL for you mainstream fatties.

>>7606965
Dude, gumbo (as a dish class) allows you to start with TWO spices (as long as they meet the spicy req.) and one sub-ingredient.

Of course, it balances out, because you have to have to raise your presentation score higher than nearly any other starting dish to be taken seriously in the first course round.

WTF IS THIS SHIT, WTF IS THIS THREAD WHAAAAAAAAAAT ! OH GOD MY BRAIN! IT HURTS SOOO MUCUH!

>>7606993
are you talking about the aroma modifier? can't see how something that hard could get it high enough without bacon...

>>7607014
if you've got an idea for a homebaking system, I'm sure someone will help you playtest it?

>>7605614
Why sub out? Just add some chicken stock. Yeah, you might get hit with some extra sodium penalties, but you should be able to wiggle around it.

>>7606804

I was thinking of going basic Vanilla, but one of my fellow players said i should try it with EGG instead of going with the all milk build. She said it holds its own a lot better, and that min-maxing with just straight milk is just going to hurt me in the end due to the fact its HP is so low. Called it a "Glass Cannon.
"

You're fat, you smell like a mixture of cheetos and dried gravy, and you look disgusting.

Get out of my fucking kitchen and don't come back until you learn how to fucking cook.

>>7606993
Is the first one Temptation? It'd be based off his Pres. Depending on his Pres. score, he might be unstoppable. If that's the case.... Shit, maybe start throwing some vegans around? Does he have any animal parts equipped? Remember that cream and it's forms count.

>>7606681

Dude that shit only works with cheese and they call it CHEESE for a reason. Before you know it you're dual wielding Crackers AND Salami and that shit is just wrong.

>>7607060
MaidRPG. Remove the Maid part, replace it with assistant chefs. Replace the Master with the Head Chef/Cooking contest jury.
Bam. Instant new campaign, with no awkward feelings of having to play a girl.

>>7607045
No, no, it was, ahh...

Sinful Pleasure! That's the one. It looks horrible, is almost hard as a rock has little to no smell, but has an impossibly high taste.

He says it counts as a spreadable too, though I don't know how considering how high its hardness is, so he pairs it with wheat crackers and thin rye toasts. The contrast just ends up being a boost to flavor too.

>>7607063
Egg?!
What version are you playing?

>>7607082
I do NOT smell like cheetos and gravy.

I smell of Nutella.

Damn /tg/ making me hungry...

>>7607114
Well fuck, SP would shit on my vegan idea. Are you sure his Flav. is high enough to qualify? That's a prestige trait - he must have min/maxed pretty hard to get it.

>>7604536
Shit, ya'll chefs toastin in a troll bread...

>>7607117

Adv Din & Des.. My GM is a rules-fag.. says we have to spell out our ingredients and follow European recipes to the letter, no modern translations. Sucks to be me.

>>7607139
YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU DON'T SMELL LIKE CHEETOS AND GRAVY.

YOU SMELL LIKE SHIT. ARROGANT BACKTALKING SHIT.

GET OUT OF MY FUCKING KITCHEN.

>>7607083
Vegans...

That works! He has Heavy Whipping Cream, two kinds of dairy coffee creamers(I don't goddamn know), and milk all at once. A few lactose-intolerant vegans and he's gone.

Though the fact that voiced his intent to play a mulled cider if I got rid of him, "unfairly," is kind of disconcerting. Thoughts?

>>7607190
You sure you don't just want a Nutella sandwich? It's a bit sloppy, but it's all cool.

>>7607027
Damn... I'm going to have to postpone my combo until later then. I was planning on starting with Shrimp, Crab, and Crawfish. I thought it was the other way around, with two sub-ingredients. My group doesn't usually play low-level campaigns.

The synergy with those three is wonderful. Packs a punch at first, then backs off until about halfway through, when the ongoing spice racks up. Drops high-end encounters like nothing.

Of course! Sinful Pleasure! how could I forget. okay, you'll need to field one of the extremists then - a Michelin inspector should take him out. I know it's overkill to field such a high level critic, but it's the only thing I can think of that's absolutely requires high presentation to get defeat.. and they look like low level fatties unless the player get a critical hit.

>>7607191
If he has Sinful Pleasure, not even vegans are guaranteed to work...
Are you sure it's not Guilty Pleasure?
Lactose Intolerants would def. work. Especially if you had them as reoccurring enemies.

Screw it i just saw a Beer Chili build.. its basic.. but man it get's the job done. I'm just going to have to figure out which brand to pick... probably Budwiser... its sponsorship domains are pretty sweet.

>>7607191
mulled cider? is that even legal? I thought the errata took that out after 1st edition...

>>7607250
Start out with Ocra and Shrimp as your mains - the flavor doesn't synergy, but they both get the spice bonus (since they both have such a low flavor), and ocra shouldn't affect any combos you have later on.
Starting with any other seafood as a main will just cripple your Prep and Value.
The only trouble will be the decreasing Burn as time goes on, as opposed to the increasing, as your combo allows for - but this early in the game, it's definitely acceptable.

>>7607272
It might be Guilty Pleasure. He was kinda androgynous about it, "It's a pleasure/comfort food build." It has nearly Paula Dean levels of butter in it too, nearly forgot.

Looking it up, his Pres isn't nearly high enough for Sinful Pleasure, so it's got to stop at Guilty.

>>7607272
Lactose Intolerant will definitely work IF it's visible dairy. is the whipping cream on the outside? otherwise it's just a penalty...

/tg/ discusses stories and strategies of a game that doesn't even exist, and revolves around food no less. why am I not surprised?

>>7605443
As you say this, cthonic tentacles of un-sauced linguine are hanging out of my mouth.

>>7607433
LINGUINE! LINGUINE CTHULHU FTHAGN!

>>7607486

Investigator eat 1D4 spaghetti monster AMIRTIE?!

we played a game recently and one guy ran straight ice cream, we were all like: WTF? but he alway was in there and was totaly op made eveyone elce feel bad cos they couldn't compair with the fucking ice cream man.

Sup fa/tg/rillers. I need some help:

My DM started us out in a Pan-Asian setting. No big deal, right? So my buddy decides to roll Miso Ramen (shit is SO cash >>7605460) with tofu AND chicken, my other buddy is going with the traditional Bibimbap with a side of Kimchi as a surprise, and I decided on the reliable General Tso's Chicken as the "lovable but naive outsider".

The problem is with our other two party members. One's playing Bulgogi, but instead of doing something sensible like pork or squid, this fucker's doing up dog. DOG! As if that wasn't bad enough, the other guy? He rolled mother fucking Century Egg. CENTURY EGG! Should my buddies and I try and deal with it, kick them out, or find a new game?

>>7607780

Shoulda played Apple Pie with it..

>>7607848
Make them change it. Bulgoki's a good choice if you can persuade him to use a reasonable meat like beef.

The Century egg might not be bad for comic relief. Maybe this player just doesn't feel comfortable playing too serious a food.

/tg/ - tasty gumbo.

Never change, fa/tg/uys!

>>7607848

Could be worse. Had a similar pan-Asian game where one sick fuck tried to play as balut.

>>7605460
A little late with this advice but if you've got exotic food specialty, you can swap the shitty default broth out, equip fresh noodles, and add all kinds of toppings to it. I'd suggest tonkotsu broth until you can afford masterwork noodles and then switching to either miso or soy sauce broth to maximize the bonuses from your noodles. Check the ramen toppings table from the East Asian Street Food book if you have access to it.

So my DM got hold of the Delicious Fantasy splatbook and wants to play a Lord of the Onion Ring campaign. Anyone have experience with this? The only thing I remember from the movie is the Elven Bread but I heard it's kind of complicated to use.

I want to run a liver build, with a side of Fava beans and a nice Chianti. Is this awesome y/y?

>>7609275
Only if you actually have the Long Pig ruleset in play. And since they recalled that splatbook and mulched all the copies well before the Internet Age, getting a hold of more than a few tattered scraps of it would be quite an achievement.