Any way we can get more artillery support from the Zanzibar?

I'm still in favor of using the Doms to find the position of any land battleships, and calling the Apsalus in to deal with them. If we keep moving fast and hitting hard while we scout, we should be able to break up their lines enough to give us an edge. Just be sure not to stop.

>>8069347

Reposting from last thread.


Zaku J, Zaku F, Zaku S- Squad 1, firing line
Zaku Cannon X2, Hovis, Jolyne- Squad 2, Artillery Support, behind Squad 1.
Salinca and other Gouf- Squad 3, supporting Squad 1
Zol & Norris- Squad 4, strikers, quick assault
David & Elaine- Quick Response, Hit & Run
Calvin- Dodai, low altitude, Recon

Dopps: CAP and CAS
Grounded Gaws: MPC Support
Outer Heaven: Grounded until needed
Apsalus: Grounded/hidden until needed. Probably sick it on the Land Battleship

>>8069347

Also Repostan from last thread.

Okay. Salinca, the Gouf, Zol and Norris form an impromptu striker squad as per >>8069134

Looking at the sattelite maps of the terrain, the Feddie forces are going to have to take the long way via the Panamericana and Super Carretera Transismica highways to move a division that size, unless they want to go for a swim. Therefore,

The S, J and F Zakus form ateam, as do the 2 Cannons and our spare F2s, (1 3-man team, 1 4-man), which then take up a staggered defensive postition in the outer eastern suburbs, backed by Wappa Infantry. We pre-sight the main highways and the large open stretches of land between suburbs for artillery bombardment by the Rhino.

The Gouf and Dom teams wait inside the massive refinery complex to avoid detection, and as the Zaku teams fall back, the striker teams move out to flank the enemy advance and disrpt large attacks. We then use our MA artillery, Apsalus and OH to force an enemy fallback, during which we reclaim defensive positions in the outer suburbs.

Dopps remain on standby as AA interceptors.

On the MA front, you have Hovis in a Rhinoceros, and Ghineus in a somewhat functioning Aspalus 2.

The Aspy has been ordered onto Fire Support, but don't expect more than 2 shots at best.

>>8069397
The Apsalus is still suffering from destroyed heat sinks, and has at most two or three shots left in it before it just becomes a flying target. It should probably be kept as a last resort.

>>8069370
Pfffft, only 75 tanks? I mean, hell, us and Zol could probably account for 50 of those alone. And as for their Big Trays, we have the Rhino and the Outer Heaven. Speaking of which, will the Outer Heaven be providing air support with its guns?

would it be possible to put some of our infantry to use as additional artillery spotters on nearby hills? They could also be positioned to detect enemy flanking attacks.

>>8069422

I'm just thinking that there's really nothing better we could do with the thing. The Land Battleships are the only things we need that much firepower to take out, and if we could do it quickly the majority of their really threatening firepower would be gone.

Hopefully.

>>8069436
Maybe, but with Calvin and his Recon Zaku, its ok.

>>8069417

Also Doms with Huge Bazookas should be on standby to hunt down Land battleships.

(And we need to flood probable feddie commchannels with Death-metal music. That, plus multiple Skelly-painted suits would have a huge psychological impact. They'll think we're some kind of unstoppable marauding deity who can be in multiple places at once.

They're only half right.

http://www.bad-words.com/images/ridden.html

Here's something to read between posts if, like me, you're not doing anything else at the moment. It's a manga about Johnny Ridden, Zeon ace pilot.

>>8069448
Mm, true. If they do have battleships, they could just hang back and shell our entire formation into the dirt before sending in the tanks, especially if one of them is another Heavy Fork. The only thing that we have that can match them at range is the Rhino.

>>8069399
I am all for this. It seems like a sound plan.

>>8069496 See my >>8069399

Apsalus is for Land Battleships.

>>8069469
>And we need to flood probable feddie commchannels with Death-metal music
We should just do this to every channel that we're NOT using.

A Tank Platoon = 4 tanks
Company = 2-8 Platoons
Battalion = 2-6 Companies
Regiment = 2+ Battalions
Brigade = 2+ Regiments
Division = 2-4 Brigades


I'd say there's atleast 10 000 men, even in a Armoured division. Maybe as many as 20 000.
So I wouldn't worry mainly about the tanks really.

>>8069436
>would it be possible to put some of our infantry to use as additional artillery spotters on nearby hills? They could also be positioned to detect enemy flanking attacks.

Yes. And thank you for reminding me about the fact that you had about a company and a half of Mechanised Infantry on Wappa's.

>>8069559

Errr... do Wappa's have anything on them that's anti-material?

>>8069559
Put squads of them behind some of those hills, have them come over the top with antitank rockets firing.

>>8069559

Hooray, I'm helping!

>>8069615

Wappas are the speeder bikes of the UC era. We did train a few Anti tank teams with Wappas, and some dismounted infantry. They're also trained in our cmbined arms doctrine.

>>8069644

One posted mentioned rockets. Well, that's good an all, but anti-material rifles might be better.

>>8069681

Well, it all depends on the weapons we have available.

>>8069615

No. Just anti-infantry. In fact they have to land before using AT weapons.

>>8069705
Ok, then keep the Infantry out of the way, except for rescuing ejecting pilots, taking prisoners, or rescuing anyone that needs to be rescued.

You were saying yesterday we'd taken slightly more casulties in the Assault on Jaburo than in Cannon.

How did the Zeon attack force not get completely wiped out to the last man in cannon?

>>8069698

Which is exactly what I'm asking?

Do the wappas have mounted anti-material ordinance that is not in the form of rockets?

(Also, after this, we might suggest to someone about putting beam weapons on wappas. Effective hit and run tactics boosted by a killy weapon? It's tactical gold!)

>>8069730

They went in later through a secret passage that Char found. Amuro did do a number on them though.

>>8069732

I don't think beam weapons get small enough to do that until much, much later. A Wappa is basically the size of a Star Wars speeder bike. So basically, they can't have much more than a normal infantryman.

B-beam Wappas.

BWAPPAS!! XD

>>8069732

IIRC, Wappas only have hard-mounted Antipersonell machineguns. AT weapons are just unguided AT missiles or RPG-style Shaped Charge rockets. All man-portable stuff.

>>8069719
Okay cool.

Oh by the way, there's still a LOT of tank shells left over from you're last battle.

>>8069753
>They went in later through a secret passage that Char found. Amuro did do a number on them though.

I'm talking about the one in September not the one where White Base was present.

>>8069730

Well for a start, they probably left a good two hours earlier.

>>8069730

They didn't get in in the first place. They just beat their heads against the defences until they realized they couldn't do shit, and then buggered off.

>>8069790
This. Zeon didn't even know where exactly Jaburo was until Char found the dock entrances.

>>8069809

It's IMPOSSIBLE to know exactly where Jaburo is, bit's of it move around remember?

>>8069766

Heh. Are any of the old Tank-Barricades still up? Can we reinforce them in time?

>>8069827

A couple in the south eastern side, but the enemy is likely to coming in from the other direction.

Assauming that the 1st Division doesn't just decide that you're more trouble than your worth and go around you.

>>8069753
>>8069759

It may not be entirely impossible. It probably means that the b-wappa can't carrying rockets or any other mounted weaponry, but all it's used for is lightning strikes to fuck up tanks, bases, convoys.

I'm not suggesting they be used in real battle, but rather hit and run guerilla style strikes.

>>8069836

Well, I think we all know what to do if they take that route.

>>8069788
>>8069790
Oh...

Thanks for clearing that up.

This post will be deleted if we begin to autosage.

>>8069827
Yeah, if there are any old defenses, use our Infantry to repair them until the battle starts. If we can, repurpose those tank shells as mines or just general explosives. Once the enemy arrives though, the Wappas are back to casevac and prisoner detail.

>>8069836

If they do, what is our command staff's opinion in hitting them with a flanking attack? Maybe sinking the land battleships and then GTFO-ing back to the OH and Gaws and run like shit back to California?

>>8069880
Gaws need to be repaired until 6 hours after the enemy arrives. Not really gonna happen.

>>8069859
Mech-Inf on CasEvac and Prisoner detail got it.
Rebuilding the tank barricades won't be possible for infantry, but your Zaku's can manage it.

>>8069880

You bring it up. It's considered a risky proposal, as the Gaw's will be sitting ducks until 4 tommorow. If you do mount a raid, you would have to make sure that you aren't followed back to Salina Cruz. Which would mean pretty much halving the defences.

>>8069923
If the Zakus can, and we have time before they get here, do it. And that raid is a bad idea. I am not for it.

>>8069923
Yeah, last time we tried something that risky, we lost most of Hawaii, so let's just work on defence for now.

>>8069923
Prepare for a combined arms defense. No big attacks that'll take us too far away from friendly forces.

>>8069417
>We pre-sight the main highways and the large open stretches of land between suburbs for artillery bombardment by the Rhino.

Looks good but then again I <3 any solution involving artillery.

>Oh by the way, there's still a LOT of tank shells left over from you're last battle.

Can we turn these into mines on short notice? Mechas should be able to plant them really quickly with their gigantic hands and even if they're not well-hidden due to time constraints they'll provide a deterrent.

>>8070108
Nice. Massive IED's like they use in Afghanistan now would still work pritty good in 0079.

>>8069940
Okay, you have the Zaku squads remake the barriers around the town. The Gaws are still pretty visible in the center, but the buildings afford them some cover at least.

>We pre-sight the main highways and the large open stretches of land between suburbs for artillery bombardment by the Rhino.

Righto.

>>8070108

No, I mean the shells of destroyed enemy tanks. Not 150mm Tank shells.

>>8070108
I think he meant the blown out shells of the tank chassis.

>>8070182
Lets start welding together tank barriers to make protected firing positions then, as well as solid entrenchments for any artillery we may have.

>>8070195

You're already on it.

Okay so, I remember someone talking about putting various mobile suits into fire teams, something about grouping all of the Goufs together into a rapid response unit whilst the Zaku's acted as front line units?

I forget what the Dom's are pencilled in for though.

>>8070252
DOM Rush squad?

>>8070252

Hopefully agressive scouting, trying to find any land battleships so we can target them for a strike by the Apsalus, and also to wreck any targets of oppurtunity we find.

>>8070252

See

>>8069417

>>8070252
Posted this in the last thread. Reposted it here. Reposted it again.

Zaku J, Zaku F, Zaku S- Squad 1, firing line
Zaku Cannon X2, Hovis, Jolyne- Squad 2, Artillery Support, behind Squad 1.
Salinca and other Gouf- Squad 3, supporting Squad 1
Zol & Norris- Squad 4, strikers, quick assault
David & Elaine- Quick Response, Hit & Run
Calvin- Dodai, low altitude, Recon

Dopps: CAP and CAS
Grounded Gaws: MPC Support
Outer Heaven: Grounded until needed
Apsalus: Grounded/hidden until needed. Probably sick it on the Land Battleship

>>8070307
This, yes.

>Salinca, the Gouf, Zol and Norris form an impromptu striker squad

>The S, J and F Zakus form ateam, as do the 2 Cannons and our spare F2s, (1 3-man team, 1 4-man), which then take up a staggered defensive postition in the outer eastern suburbs, backed by Wappa Infantry. We pre-sight the main highways and the large open stretches of land between suburbs for artillery bombardment by the Rhino.

>The Gouf and Dom teams wait inside the massive refinery complex to avoid detection, and as the Zaku teams fall back, the striker teams move out to flank the enemy advance and disrpt large attacks. We then use our MA artillery, Apsalus and OH to force an enemy fallback, during which we reclaim defensive positions in the outer suburbs.

Aspalas as heavy fire support

Infantry on CasEvac and prisoner detail.

Dopps on Air Patrol.

Okay, so, do you want to use the Dom's as a striker squad, or as a Force recon unit?

>>8070307
thirded

>Calvin- Dodai, low altitude, Recon

Oh yes, and this.

>>8070336
Combination of Recon in Force and Striker.

>>8070336
Recon in force, we'll take opportunity targets or obvious aces and the like when needed.

>>8070336
Multi-role Force Recon/Rapid Response

>>8070400
Better way of saying what I want.

>>8070350

>>8070398
>>8070400

So basically the Ryoma Nagre axiom role of 'If there's a hole, it's your job to fill it.'

Right. So, I think that's everybody.

With the defence plan hashed out, and no enemy hostiles expected until morning, you set up a patrol roster and get some shut eye.

Well, it looks good to me. I got nothing else to add.

(Also, next time we get downtime, I say we suggest to someone about seeing if beam weaponry can be used on Wappas. Or at least some kind of armanent, for hit and run tactics.)

>>8070427
Any crazy newtype dreams?

Also, very happy you went longer today, it's been a while since I've participated.

>>8070436

You don't even have beam weaponry for Mobile Suits yet. Aside from Marine Suits, and they're all bulky water-cooled things.
And they NEVER get any smaller.

>>8070436
Pretty much impossible, unfortunately. Even through Victory, beam weapons always needed something of at least MS size to support them.

>>8070427
When we wake up its PATRIOTIC HOTBLOODED SPEECH TIME.

>>8070481
>>8070471

Fair enough, but I can't get rid of this niddling feeling that we need to put something on them...

>>8070509
They're basically seats and controls strapped to a pair of VTOL fans. There's not all that much you can add to them.

>>8070471
Isn't there anything better than water to cool them with?

>>8070481
>at least MS size to support them.
Negative, the gp-01 core fighter had beam weaponry.

>>8070509
Cupholders.

As usually you're up by 7. Still no sign of the enemy, a quick check in with patrols and the Captain show nothing new happened overnight. The enemy forces seem to be heading along towards Mexico at best speed. Fontaine is optimistic that if we do see action it won't be off the main force, but rather a few enemy companies and possibly some remnants of the Mexican army.
Which if their last performance is anything to go by, will be more of liability ot the feds than anything else.

You get yourself some coffee, check you're Dom's systems and prepare for a new day.

You see a squad of Wappa's return to get some sleep before the projected combat time, and wave to them as you mount up.

Ruubens is doing the same, though she seems to be having a rougher time dealing with the lack of sleep than you are. Experience you guess, she'll be fine once the adrenalin kicks in.

As you exit the hangar bay wave to Zolomon who's already up and in his Gouf Custom.

"Well, boss, here we go again."

TO BE CONTINUED.

>>8070524
Not until Zeon gets its hands on E-Pac technology.

>>8070527
Which were hooked up to a MS-scale reactor in the back.

>>8070524

Liquid oxygen or liquid nitrogen?

Might work.

Then again, super conducting materials might be better for using in their capicitors, to make them straight up air-cooled.

(Obviously the Feddies solved the problem!)

>>8070452 here

>>8070546
>TO BE CONTINUED

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>8070558
The corefighter still isn't anywhere near MS size though.

>>8070546
Good thread. See you guys tomorrow!

I wonder if we will see the One Armed Bandit again. Since we shot down his little plane, he might come out to play once more.

>>8070562

Feddies got around the problem like >>8070558 said, via E-Pac tech. Which is basically like a magazine that holds "bolts" of plasma which are contained inside their own prebuilt minovsky particle bubble and are created back on the ship or wherever.
When the Beam Rifle fires, it extrudes this fusion plasma in a thin minovsky corridor in much the same way that Capital Ship beam weapons extend the range of their guns.
The difference here being that the minovsky field AND the plasma come pre-packed, all the rifle has to do is stretch the field out.

That's why Beam Weapons aren't quite the speed of light.

That's the unicorn from UN Squadron!

>>8070596
>That's why Beam Weapons aren't quite the speed of light.

Thank god for that too.

>>8070546
I sure hope it's not 3rd time's a charm for the Feddies.

>>8070573

Look: "They did it in Stardust Memories" is not an excuse for anything.

>>8070596

... ... ... half of what you said didn't even sound like science.

>>8070618
I don't like what you are implying

>>8070632
There's a reason Gundam invented an entire branch of physics to support all the nonsense that goes on in it.

Also the g-defensor has a pretty freaking huge beam rifle. and it's not that big either.

>>8070655
It's also at least two-thirds the size of a MS. Seriously, that thing is a monster.

>>8070632

It's 1970's Pseudo science. What do you expect?

>>8070634
You get your own side-story, you don't count.

You know, I honestly didn't think today's thread was going to go the direction that it did.
My initial plan was to have you try to rescue the crew of that downed Gaw in a Black Hawk Down style scenario, but nope, you thought your way out of that.
Failing that I was going to have Zolomon do a Behind Enemy Lines thing and you have to go rescue him.

But somehow Zolomon ended up out-awesoming that.
I have NO idea how that happened.

And here we are.

>>8070713

Horaaay!

>>8070713

Facing a numerically superior foe, holed up in some rat hole town, using the husks of enemy units to provide cover.

AGAIN?

Gee.

>>8070713
I'd like to see a scenario where we capture the One Armed Bandit, or are stuck behind enemy lines ourselves. A stint as a POW could be interesting for a short while as well.

>>8070655
>>8070675

And it can´t do shit unless it is docked, You yourself said that the rifle was huge, And unless it is docked it would be signifigantly weaker then a normal beam cannon, Not to mention it won´t get invented until like 8 years.

And 0083 shits all over the technology progression in UC.

>>8070713

Oh also, there's a chance I might be playing Pathfinder tommorow instead, but I've not heard anything from the guy I'm playing with, so maybe not.

In any case THERE IS NO ZEONQUEST NEXT WEEKEND as I'll be in Waymouth for my Sister in Laws birthday. Well, with a bit of luck she'll be my sister in law.
SERIOUSLY STEVE - SHE'S THE ONLY LADY I'VE EVER SEEN YOU WITH WHO ISN'T CRAZY.

>>8070736

Actually, technically speaking, they're the same ratholes as before.

>>8070747
>And 0083 shits all over the technology progression in UC

Not really, considering all the gundams are made by Anaheim who is always in the lead of technology.

>And unless it is docked it would be signifigantly weaker then a normal beam cannon
Unlikely, it's never been represented like this in zeta as far I a remember or in any video game.

>>8070764

Oh, well, Have good time visiting her.

>>8070741

Capture Bandit, Then tell him how we don´t neccesrily agree with our own methods, But that the Federation have been opreessing us spacenoids for ages, And our ties to change that withou violence have failed, And just what gave those who live on Earth the right to boss over those who live in space, After all the majority of humanity lives in space now, And as such they shouldn´t need to answer to people who keep leaching off us with taxes that we will never see used in our own benefit.

That should make him able to see our side of this conflict.

>>8070764
>NO ZEONQUEST NEXT WEEKEND

Well, shit. I'll probably miss all of this weekend too. At least I can supplement with 0083 Card Builder...

>>8070866

For Gundam War?

>>8070546
Ruubens not getting much sleep, huh? Heheheh. Hobbes.

>>8070713
I still wish we could have finished off the Bandit for good. If we had just gotten a few shots at him once his craft went down and before he ejected it would have been morally okay!

>>8070907
His Plot Armor is too strong. Besides, its fun to have a strong opponent. Since we can't match up to that kid that Char has to beat, we can feel important by fighting this guy. Call it a consolation prize I suppose.

>>8070906
Oh come now. Even if they are an item, which I doubt, I have full confidence that neither of them are stupid enough to spend what little time allocated to sleep last having sex.

>>8070906

You know if I ever did do CrossbonesQuest, it would have to be about Tobia Arronaxes crotchety old Grandmother Elaine, Kicking the asses of all these young whippersnappers and generally being outrageously dangerous.

>>8070800

Eh, What i mean is that it really messes up some stuff already noted, For example if GP-00 is the first transformable MS, Then why did AE make Methuss, Whose whole purpose is to test if transformable MSes works im practice?

And as for the G-Defensor Docking, My only experience of it is SRW, Where the Rifle goes from mediocre to Good when docked.

>>8070993
The GP01-Fb's stats are also markedly better then the Zeta Gundam's which makes little to no sense at all.

>>8070884
Potentially, I'm still new to GRORIOUS NIPPON and thus, this arcade game, but it's quick to pick up.

To note: Garma in a Gelgoog and Marion Whelch in a Xamel is <3

>>8070964
And the bunch of batshit insane old men and women she hangs out with all the time, and go around trolling people with old MS while pretending to be a Mexican Mariachi band?

>>8071004
Well, the Zeta Gundam did have a one-man design team.

Admittedly, that one man was Kamille Bidan, but still.

And Anaheim might well have intended the GP series as prestige projects; a line of suits that are so advanced that the technology won't be affordable for years at least, to show off how awesome they are as a company. They're the concept cars of the UC mobile suits.

>>8071137

That would actually make sense, Seeing how it was their first MS project still, I like to retcon GP-00 from excistance, It didn´t even appear in 0083, So it´s not like anyone cares about it.

>>8071135
I lol'ed FAR harder than I should have.