Plane List from OP post in the other thread.
F-CK-1 Ching-Kuo
J-10 Annihilator
F-106 Delta Dart
Mirage 2000
Mirage F1
Mirage III
Rafael
Eurofighter Typhoon
A-10 Thunderbolt
F-111 Aardvark
F-16C Falcon
F-16E Falcon
F-16XL Falcon
A-1 Skyraider
A-6 Intruder
F-14B Tomcat
F-14D Tomcat
XF-29 Wildcat II
Kfir
T-50 Golden Eagle
F-104C Starfighter
F-22A Raptor
F-35A Lightning II
F-35B Lightning II
F-35C Lightning II
AV-8B Harrier II
F-101B Voodoo
F-15C Eagle
F-15E Eagle
F-15SE Silent Eagle
F/A-18 Hornet
F/A-18E Super Hornet
XF-31
MiG-21 Fishbed E
MiG-23 Flogger E
MiG-25 Foxbat
MiG-29SM Fulcrum C
MiG-31 Foxhound
MiG-35 Fulcrum E
F-100 Super Sabre
F-20 Tigershark
F-5E Tiger II
YF-23 Black Widow II
Tornado ADV
F-105 Thunderchief
JAS-35 Draken
JAS-37 Viggen
JAS-39 Gripen
Jaguar
PAK-50
Su-17 Fitter
Su-24 Fencer
Su-25 Frogfoot
SU-27BM Flanker J
Su-27S Flanker B
Su-30MKI Flanker H
Su-33 Flanker D
Su-34 Fullback
Su-35 Flanker E
A-7 Corsair
F-8E Crusader
Yak-38 Forger
Yak-141 Freestyle

And the mission (again, stolen from OP)
BlackFlag Internal Document #100298

Mission Briefing “Horse Therapy”
Deployment: Kisangani
Pancake: Kisangani
Alternate: None (We are still negotiating with the provisional government)
AAR: None
AWACS: None
CSAR: MI-24 Hind + Jaeger Flight. Eight Million Sortie Fee if utilized

Contract Employer: Ministre de Sécurité Externale, France

Objective: Destruction of suspected Sudan terrorist training camp and airfield located at the old Marida airfield, just inside the Sudanese border. Primary targets are the airfield runway, fuel dump in the southeast, and the command bunker to the north northwest.

Background: These guys have been a thorn in the side of France's efforts to pacify the region. Due to UN regulations as well as their own civil government issues, the French have not had the ability to simply remove this training camp. That's where we come in. Taking out the command bunker will most likely remove some key leadership positions, and with the airstrip gone, will force the OPFOR to move on the ground, where the French security force has a presence and a good chance of catching and stopping them.

(Part two to follow, long doc)

And the rest of the mission Brief:
Intel (HUMINT free): OPFOR likely disorganized, undertrained. Equipment status rated at no better then barely serviceable. Most equipment unmanned unless alert given. OPFOR operates off grid, and does not benefit from outside intel, support, elint.
Air Assets: Two MiG-17s, One MiG-21, Two Bell Huey Gunships.
Surface Assets: SA-2 system, 4xZSU-23 at objective.
Intel (Remote Imaging free): Attached you will find the latest keyhole pass. We've marked off targets and defences. We could not find the fourth ZSU-23, and suspect that the OPFOR has begun camo-netting the emplacements, or simply placed it inside for maintenance.

Threat Assessment: Very Low. The biggest threats will be from the MiG-21 and the SA-2 system, neutralize them first, and the rest of this mission should be a cakewalk.

ROE: No limits in Sudanese Airspace. Return fire only in DRC airspace.

>groundpounding mission
>Not A-10

What the fuck?

Chill out and wait for the OP to come back with either the rule system or his next mission.

Don't talk the issue to death because you're impatient.

>>8538520
>>8538548
>>8538562
>>8538571

How have I not seen this on /tg/ yet?

>>8538579
For the mission parameter that I read, the F-111 seems like a better choice.

>>8538599
Because you're blind? The threads have gone all day long the past two days.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8515581/
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/8526381/

>>8538599
Hmm, Bad luck? Sign on during the Eastern Seaboard schools' out four hour 40k rush? Yet another 3.5 vs4 fight?

Lots of reasons if we're being honest.

>>8538520
That's one of the better Phantoms I've seen. Such an ugly plane, but sexy as hell.

Why didn't the guy get an F-16? seems like a better choice than an old Vietnam era jet.

>>8538780
>>8538520

My thought as well. I would have gone with an F-35 myself, cutting edge, V/TOL, and stealth.

>>8538780
Ah man, I missed the end of the first and the entire second thread.

>>8538804
Far too expensive for what they were aiming for.

>>8538809
I didn't even see the second thread... Reading it now.

This thread is relevant to my interests! Although it lacks BIG BEAUTIFUL TITS!

>>8538872
>Airplanes + Tits = Nose Art

>>8538903
>>See end of 1st thread

>>8538903

>>8538804
Congrats, you've missed the entire point of the last two threads.

OP here, well, from the other threads. I don't mind this thread at all, I've learned a lot of stuff allready. Thanks a lot, for all the help to some planestupid guy.

What's the best way to operate as a Wild Weasel btw?

If I was playing this, I would fly this, just to be a dick.

"Fucking Hell, Dogslap, where the fuck are you?"
"Uhh, just going feet wet, ETA 25 minutes to target area"

>>8539026
>Dogslap

I don't want to know how you earned that call...

>>8539103
Like how nobody wants to find out what the Ork Warboss "Grotlocker" Badad did to earn his nickname

>>8538978
Be a big target. Shoot at them just before they shoot at you.

>>8539261
Also, radiation homing missiles (AGM-88's and the like) to take out anti-air emplacements.

>F-20 Tigershark

Anybody who says "Buy an F-5" from here on out is an idiot, if this is available.

Just sayin.

>>8539316
Why the hell would you want either when there's F-16's to be had?

>>8539347

Cost.

>>8539347
The F-20 is very comparable to an F-16, and costs next to nothing.

>>8539370
You can get an F-16C for $20million, or an E for $30million.

Going by the program cost an F-20 was $60million (20 planes at $1.2billion total cost). That's not a real valid measurement but it's the only one I've got.

>>8539440
Development costs do not equal production price...

>>8539423
Maybe the early F-16's, but what about newer F-16's like the F-16E/F Block 60?

>>8539465
Do you know of any sources with an estimated production price?

I mean the F-5 was about 2million but that's not really a comparable aircraft.

>>8539481
Probably get 6 F20s for the price of one of those.

Not super pretty, but it was a bargain basket gem.

OP could always buy some SU-27s from the Ukraine for about $5mil each. Just need to learn Russian.

In this, I have the choice between guns or missiles.

>>8539564
One of OPs group bought a Flanker. From what we understood, the price was quite steep, the base Flanker was at the very top end of their starting purchasing power, with almost nothing left over for armament, fuel, maintenance, etc.

>>8539574

>>8539591
That's why you buy it from a dissatisfied former soviet commander who's just looking to make a quick buck. Or buy it from an american company who demilitarized and westernized it and spend an arm and a leg remilitarizing it.

>>8539574
Except for the unfortunate tendency to take off with their wings still folded this was a hell of a plane.

>>8539629
And yet, even with wings folded, the thing still flew! It was the same philosophy the Phantom had. Put enough thrust behind it, and even a brick will fly.

In the game is OP buying the aircraft 'new' or from militaries looking to get rid of their stock?

They could probably buy piles of F-5's, older F-16's, and F-4's for way under list price if they buy from a third world country looking to upgrade.

But the F-20 never went into pr
>>8538548
>F-20 Tigershark
GET IT NOW IT MUST BECOME YOURS

>>8539574
The Corsair and the Crusader were both hated by ground crews. Mostly because they had a tendency to suck crewmembers into those inlets.

>>8539653
From the sound of it, the GM has a set price for 'acquiring' aircraft that is related somehow to age and performance.

Why do combat aircraft have the ability to be so butt ugly and also dead sexy at the same time?

Not related to discussion, but I wanted to emphasize how big this thing is.

>>8539701
You tell me.

I am attracted to curvy girls, and the Mi-24.
Coincidence?

Baw, I wish I could play in this OP. It's totally different than anything else I've played /tg/ wise, and I'm a gigantic militaryfag. How much RP is there besides air combat?

I'm certainly really interested in seeing how these kinds of mechanics might work out, and I love the expense management, as it's always been a part of my favorite action games. (Armored Core, Ace Combat.)

As for the Block 60, I don't know the individual unit price, but the UAE program was 3 billion dollars. The number of units projected were 80; how much of the billions went directly into each unit's price is uncertain as far as I know.

>>8539701
Some are just plane sexy.

>>8539722
Boy, you don't know big.

>>8539758
Uhh, yeah. Shorter wingspan then this.

Needs more B-1R. Wink wink.

All you need in life.

>>8539832
better.

>>8539832
>>8539886
Girls, girls, you're both such lovely girls, if you're going to fight, fight nice.

>>8539911
What would the female human personality of an F-4 or 14 be?

>>8539798
TU-160 Wingspan :54.1 m
B-52 Wingspan: 56.4 m

lolwut

>>8539911

F4= Pragmatic down to earth woman who will drink beer with you.

F14= High maintenance drama queen with very particular tastes. But DYAMN is she hot.

>>8539832
>>8539886

Best.

Pictured is an F-15E Strike Eagle, quite possibly the most complex man-made objects to take to the skies under it's own power. This lovely lass is airframe 90-328 out of Mountain Home, Idaho, a member of the 391st "Bold Tigers".

why is there no love for the A-4 Skyhawk

>>8540907
Because it is a training aircraft with a redundant name.

>>8540629

Also consider that the Phantom was one of the least aerodynamic figher craft ever designed and essentially moved only through sheer force, only being less than a winged rocket because of the technicality of possessing an air intake up-front.

What this means to the analogy I just don't know.

Area88-quest? FUCK YEAR!

Time to put the danger zone on on endless repeat.

>>8542358
DANGERRRRRRR ZONE

>>8542338
I've heard F-4 pilots describe the plane as essentially a flying bus. Any problem it couldn't solve through finesse, it did through sheer brute force (which was pretty much everything). Blunt and straight to the point.

However, it's still an old airframe. There's a reason the Air Force literally uses surplus F-4's as target practice now.

Bump for awesome

@original OP: could you ask your DM to upload the rules he's using somewhere?

>>8540007
Tu-160 177ft long
B-52 159ft

>>8542431
For those of you who want to listen to it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfOpQnRE0qs&feature=related

>>8542445
I have seen that. It is sad. Once I even saw an F4 drone crash on the main road in front of Tyndall that leads towards Mexico Beach. I can only imagine what shit duty befell the poor drone pilot.

>>8539722
And loud. Seriously, those turboprops are so fucking loud, NATO fighter pilots that regularly shadowed these things closely during the Cold War would suffer hearing problems after a while.

>>8542445
Other airforces still have them in combat services and at the very least the German and Israeli ones are modernised to a degree where they're still viable combat planes even when going up against 4th gen fighters.

As for the whole mechanics of the F-4, it isn't called The Triumph of Thrust over Aerodynamics for no reason. Well that, or it's short nickname: The Flying Brick.

>>8540629
Yeah, there'd be something off about the F4 woman, but she'd still be arousing.

Now, the big question: SU-27 women, hottest thing on the surface of the earth?

Older plane = more booze money. A top priority for any merc pilot.

>>8544362
She'd be hot, but speaks in gibberish and occasionally crashes in your lawn after a night of wild stunts.

>>8539722

All I wish to know is this: Can i get a Tu-95, add a radar, and then modify it till it reaches Ace Combat levels of AAM capacity? It may not be practical, or sane, but I will do it. Firing clouds of Phoenix missiles from 100 miles away is my dream.

Kudos to OP for going with the DOuble Ugly, the Lead Sled, the World's Leading Distributor of MiG Parts.

Great choice man.

>>8544420
Well the Radar part isn't too hard.

>>8544415
To continue that line of thought, she'd also probably have cosmetic surgery done to be appealing and capable to other "clients" and is otherwise a little heavy set and envious of the attention her lighter sister Mig-29 gets.

>>8544415
I could live with this. She'd also be willing to try positions that other planes refuse or can't do.

>>8544435
lol. Yah, flexibility would likely be an prominent trait.

>>8544432
>>8544435
>>8544415
>>8539923

All I can picture is Ms Foxbat, a large women with a propensity for screaming all the time, running around the neighborhood with cops trying to chase her down and failing, before finally suffering a torn ligament.

>>8544415
She'd also have hotter, jailbait sisters Su-30, Su-35 and troubled loli T-50

>>8544420
Sound a bit like the plans for the B-1R

>>8544449
So the Ms Blackbird would be the object of Ms Foxbat's hatred, because she would run around the neighborhood outpacing all the cops AND Ms Foxbat, before stopping at another man's house to drink some 400$ a bottle triple distilled Liquor, before doing the same thing again? And be the object of lust of every man in the neighborhood.

>>8544453
And the older fat ugly sister no one talks about, who likes to Box, SU-25

This conversation reminds me of this.

Wait, wait, WAIT.

You guys are sexually aroused by planes?

>>8544503

Yes. Welcome home.

>>8544503
In before Flanker on Eagle porn

>>8544463
And when Ms. Foxbat isn't in rehab/reconstructive surgery she'd wax nostalgic about her glory days when she was the envy and terror of the girls down the street Ms. Mirage and the NATO gang. She'd talk about her bouts around the Mediterranean the most and how her sisters couldn't even get close to her. But all of her stories are mostly hot air and only vaguely coherent from one iteration to the next as they mix myth, clandestine spy operations, and seething hatred for Ms. Blackbird for stealing her thunder.

>>8544503
Of course not! I'm arouse by hind though...

>>8544503

Wait, wait, WAIT.

You're not?

>>8544486
Awww... Poor Havoc ;_;

>>8544526
However, her Daughter, Foxhound, has a lot of potential, and the last laugh, since Ms Blackbird died years ago.

MILF.

>>8544486

I like the Havoc, she's a nice day and night attack helicopter. She may not be pretty, but she gets the job done.

:d

>>8544478
Ah yes, SU-25. She was born with a mental handicap and was always a little slower than her sisters. The doctors say she was lucky to be able to communicate at all and the best she could hope for was simple, primitive coordination of tools.

She boxes too... her simple nature is either exacerbated by this or a benefit to the hobby.
She is also long known as the easy one, having slept around nearly everywhere... repeatedly, even in abusive relationships. Her biggest problem appears to be an inability to live without constant support and guidance.

>>8544555
The Sukhois are definitely THE sexiest family on the block.

But the MiG family has the Fulcrum sisters, who, while not as flexible, are definitely dirtier and a little smaller. In essence, they are firecrackers in the sack, they'll rattle your bones, and are the object of envy of Ms Hornet and Falcon.

:3

>>8544620
Mrs Eagle is an ugly bitch, constantly envious of Ms Tomcat's curves and superior intelligence. No amount of cosmetic surgery to add curves is going to change the fact that she is not a looker. One of her sisters put on a lot of weight too.

>>8544634

wash your faggot mouth with soap

No love for the big curvy girls?

>>8544666
She's all painted up like a French whore. Still looks ugly though.

>>8544672

French?

french whore you say?

>>8544703
Sweet damn! After all those years, the Dassault family has one hell of a looker in their house!

>>8544711

You know what they say about French jets? They'll do things for you, things American jets won't do...you know what I mean...

>>8544739
The Saab sisters are totally the indie/punk chicks. They've always been... Different. And they'll sleep anywhere.

>>8544738
Suck?

>>8544752

that is if the austrians ever let her out of the dungeon

>>8544758
Well played.

Who's up for some BDSM boys?

>>8544758

I'm not even sure >>8544738 knows what he's talking about.

>>8544667
CANADA
Even our fighter jets are named Huge.

French Jets blow minds. And in the metaphor we have, a lot more than that.

>>8544503
How can you not go from six to midnight over some of the smoking hot curves and lines that have been posted?

>>8544806
So the Rafale is the exotic underperforming quiet girl down the street that will blow your mind the moment you give her a chance.

Ms. Mirage, her mother, is a little more brash and obnoxious having traveled the world over. Also seemingly exotic looking, but under the hood there isn't anything special going on. She's almost a staple example of "average". In fact, she's pretty slow on the up take as well but once things get moving she hit's her stride and really shines at whatever she works at.

>>8544806

DEM CANARDS

>>8544823
Because I'm not /k/-tarded

>>8544847
What's really odd is that only her parents seem to love her. No one ever asks her out on more than one date, she has yet to go steady with any of the neighbours. Which is odd, because she's smoking hot.

what the fuck

>>8544872
Apparently people are turned on by airplanes...

What about the JAS sisters then?

>>8544864
It's probably because of all the rumors of their adopted step daughter Super Étendard and how she's always fighting seedy little engagements and occasionally giving their more popular neighbors bloody noses.

>>8544927
Nevermind. Forgot to F5.

Also, the A-10 is without a doubt a he. Big Brother Thunderbolt.

For the type of missions and group the OP seems to be running with I'd take an A-4 Skyhawk over most of the others. Small, compact, fast, can out turn practically everything, can carry a good deal of ordinance, plenty of aftermarket upgrades out there, and plenty of countries that are willing to unload them for you at a good price.

>>8544526
That being said, Ms Foxbat does have a redeeming feature.

DAT ASS!

>>8544949
I don't think so, The A-10 is the quirky ugly girl you have a crush on but you don't know why.

>>8544965
This is a true triumph of thrust over aerodynamics. That plane is all engine.

>>8544972
She'd be an akward woman what with the stuff going on up front.

If anything, A-10 is the pre-op transexual weight lifter.

>>8544953
The skyhawk was brought up originally I think, but was shot down because of it's limited speed/climb performance, and its weak AtA abilities.

So, what is this babe's personality/profile?

Russian K-7 bomber

>>8544983
So she's not the fastest option out there. And like I said there are enough after market mods out there, including some upgrades that make it competent in AtA, that you can mod it however you like it.

There's a reason private aggressor squadrons still run them. If they get past the long range AtA missile envelope of modern aircraft, by hugging the deck etc, they can out turn and outperform practically anything, especially the huge modern boys that rely on speed and range to keep them safe.

Plus it can perform more roles than most aircraft half its age.

>>8545017

those Russians sure were crazy

Here's some juicy pics for the OP

And another

Let's not forget the Reich either.

Hey I know where to pick up a fuck ton of 104s ^_^

Anyone speak german?

Any idea if you can get your GM to post/upload his rules somewhere, OP?

Would be greatly appreciated by a lot of us here ^^

>>8545031
We're not crazy. WE JUST HAVE WONDERFUL IDEAS!

>>8545093

yeah

>>8545001
This one is hard...

She's a smart girl with expensive tastes. Unlike her rather disruptive sister Ms. Falcon, she paid attention to her parents and is generally a by-the-numbers shut in with deep family ties. She goes out of her way to make life easier for her family, much to her own expense.

She loved to party from time to time with her aging aunt tomcat till her aging bones couldn't take it anymore and passed on.

She suffered a slight midlife crisis at that point, ran up huge debts- acquiring even more expensive habits, gained weight, and went to college to learned new trades traveled abroad.

>>8545099
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNDDDDEEEEEEERRRRFFFFFUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

>>8545108
Nicely done, how about this one?

What about me?

:)

Super Hornet is a lovely plane.

>>8545155
yes what about this lady? What a ride! Fast but kind of a one trick pony.

>>8545155
One word.

Maneater. or Widowmaker.

>>8545149
Young, pretty, and full of cosmetic options that only a rich father can afford, Raptor is the new girl on the block complete with snotty toy dog and gaudy new purse.
She's universally despised by everyone on the block for being a garish display of wealth and youth. Everyone wants to take her down a notch. No one has had an opportunity to successfully do so yet, with a convenient alibi for every defeat available to cover up the one truth they don't want to admit.

That they are old, and there is nothing they can do to trump her.

>>8545242
Which says nothing of her fraternal twin sister, whom her family does not discuss.

what plane would fit /tg/?

>>8545155
She's the girl that was given up for adoption by her parents after conceiving too many children. She's wandered from foster home to foster home never really knowing true family.

Know one would have ever called her stable either. She's ended many relationships in the past under questionable circumstances.

But despite it some think she's kinda cute in a retro kind of way.

>>8545242
>That they are old, and there is nothing they can do to trump her.

Except for the Sukhoi Sisters, who have a hot new filly.

NEEDS MORE F-14

>>8545286
The only plane for fat guys.

>>8545306

She's still a toddler though, and it remains to be seen if she can live up to the high expectations of her family.

>>8545306
Yah, they live down the block, but aside a heated exchange once outside of an Indian bar, they don't talk much.

>>8545321
She's growing fast though, and many think she may already be sleeping with Ranjit, the Sexy Indian next door.

>>8545312

That or pic related.

>>8545301

;_;

>>8545306
She's clearly less pretentious than Ms Raptor, and less stuck up. She doesn't need to be treated with a soft touch, and she isn't a golddigger. Not saying she's cheap, but she's much less likely to bankrupt you.

She's also got that same flexibility of her older sisters, which is something Ms Raptor does not have.

Still waiting on the Rules OP. I wanna see em!

>>8545070
>>8543489
OP here, wow, never thought i'd learn about planes with them described as women, but I think it's actually easier this way...

Steve said that he'll work on getting some stuff up this weekend. There's a lot of lists and stuff.

>>8545395
Get em host. We all want to see how this'll be run. And if it takes a couple day make sure that when you do get them that you spam em all over /tg/ so we all get a chance to see em.

/tg/

Womenify this!

>>8545311
Agreed.

Ms. Tomcat is a heavy set woman that is graceful and somewhat wise. She drinks... allot. It's one of her biggest failings.
But despite it she's always looking forward and guiding those around her when necessary. Her children and relatives often call her prophetic at seeing things over the horizon.

Uncle Hawkeye calls her obvious.

She's been around the block more than once and has been photographed and adored in cinema for a time but has since settled down.
Before she passed on, the general consensus was that she was one of the finest pieces of trim on the block despite her age- and she was all natural at that.

Me?

>>8545446
There are rumours that Ms Tomcat's retirement is a lie, and that she's actually still having an affair with the Iranian couple across the way.

I still say that A-37-b Dragonflies would be far better suited to the sortie mission, given their speed, gau-8 gatling for strafing runs, and capacity for bomblets and napalm.

more importantly, however, they have a vastly superior service to flight ratio (2 hours service per hour of flight... compared withthe F22's _30_ hours of maintainance per 1 hour of flight....), which is essential for a small unit. They have a far shorter takeoff and landing, and are designed to be capable of takeoff from sub-standard runways, and are fitted with engine intage grilles to prevent ingestion of debris. Unlike F4s which need a good landing strip, and much more support.

>>8545455

>>8545474
>Gau-8

Try a Gau-2, which is essentially a minigun chambered for a weak rifle round.

In Memoriam.

>>8545494
my mistake, Gau-2, not 8.

however, in a sortie of "Destruction of suspected Sudan terrorist training camp and airfield", a Gau-2 minigun is easily enough to do the job of ground attack, given it'd be extremely unlikely to be facing armoured vehicles.

>>8545425
Oooh. Hard one.

Born fraternal triplets, Lightening II's physical similarities frequently confuses its parents as to who is who. Technically 3 different daughters, mingling in 3 different cliques, they all masquerade as the same person to the chargrin of neighbors, parents, and friends alike.

Though they collectively want to be known as "Lightening II" their parents refer to them as "retirement", as it was their solution to a budget concerns and how to fund their own twilight years by off loading expenses onto their "one" daughter.

In practice though, Lightening II is an expensive unruly set of teenagers that frequently go off into their own directions the moment their parents aren't paying attention or they can't come to an agreement.

>>8545504
Sexier.

>>8545446
>Ms. Tomcat is a heavy set woman that is graceful and somewhat wise.
>Heavy set woman

wat

This is the best aircraft thread on /tg/ ever.

LOL at the JSF explanation/womenification.

They aren't as pretty as their much hotter older sister, Ms Raptor.

>>8545531
The Tomcat is a bit of a porker. Nice curves, but heavy.

needs more Russian insanity

http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/k7giant.html

Is this thread worth archiving too?

>>8539886
all else aside
these continue to be the sexiest jets I have ever laid eyes on.
>>8545531
>>8545311

fuck yes

>>8545460
OOOH! Good add. I forgot about that.

>>8545531
Truth though. look at the respective weight of the tomcat to any other "fighter". the tomcat is a fighter in name only, it's more like a pheonix missile delivery platform. It does other things as a sort of side bonus.

>>8545455
Exotic yet local, she's deceptively old. It's unclear just how old Spirit really is despite her youthful appearance as her past is clouded in mystery. Her obvious parents would make her in her late 50s, easily. But her body would imply late 20s at the most.

She never talks, ever. She's the embodiment of unobtainable.

She occasionally leaves her house though, that was formerly thought as being haunted and abandoned, for long drives before coming home late at night.

It's unclear what she's doing so late at night. Occasionally the Sukhoi family elders tell wild tales of ghosts haunting just beyond the grasp of visual acuity that eerily resemble Spirit.

>>8545631

Nice!

>>8545584
Hate to be a stickler but at only 43,000 pounds its only slightly heavier than its other F series variants, and even lighter than the F22 Raptor.

>>8545631
>it's more like a pheonix missile delivery platform
This was a bad thing?

>>8545366
>>8545337
I've always been a sucker for the Sukhoi and MiGs...

>>8545475

I guess she doesn't really say much either.

>>8545746
She's the angry goth chick. No one noticed her through most of primary school, but they all perked up when she showed up on their radar in High School. People thought she was highly exotic, kind of quiet, and possibly able to go columbine at the drop of a hat. However, High School were her glory days, as an adult, she's suffered a brutal mugging by a gang of serbian blue collar workers, and never really recovered. She has no marketable job skills in today's economy, and seems to be waiting for death to take her.

>>8545615
Already done.

>>8545709
Holy cow. Thanks for pointing that out. I don't recall the Raptor weighing that much.

The Pheonix missile was an awesome platform no doubt. But as a close in superiority fighter, there are plenty of planes that do the roll better than the Tomcat and the navy realized that. The tomcat flies out, fast, deploys its missiles at extreme ranges against multiple targets and hopefully blows away whole incoming bomber formations, then lets the real purpose built attack craft do their thing. The tomcat doesn't do much else very well.
And when the threat of soviet bomber formations is nil, so is the tomcat's future.

And I didn't mean to imply Ms. Tomcat is fat, she's just a healthier build... big boned-curvy, as it were.

>>8544463
>>8544526

>>8545805
The F-22 follows the Sukhoi trend, that bigger aircraft make for better Air Dominance fighters.

As to the F-14, it was never a fighter, it was an Interceptor.

>>8545781
She was never really popular at parties either. She's show up under everyones radar at the last moment, tell the one joke she knew, and left before anyone knew what was going on.

it was a hell of a joke the first time you heard it though.

>>8545837
Good Add!

>>8545831
Bingo.

She inspired a pretty kick ass show though.

>>8545773

Ah, Ms. Typhoon. Elizabeth; Liz to the British, Eliza to the Italians, Lisbet to the Germans, and a slightly sore point to any of them. She's an 8 with a traumatic past who thinks she's a 10.

Introduced to you as "a European socialite", it quickly transpired that she was raised in the 1980s and hasn't quite got over the fall of the Berlin Wall yet, nor the fact that large shoulderpads are out of fashion. It turns out that she had a rough childhood, with her strange menagerie of parents constantly arguing over how to raise her.

She could have been quite a sprinter, but instead has tried her hand at a wide variety of hobbies, none of which she's naturally talented at, and as a result has put on quite a bit of extra weight, albeit mostly muscle.

Don't get me wrong, she's still not bad. But while she thinks she's in the top tier, she's not as flexible as her Russian neighbours, nor as hot as the Americans; Typhoon was sadly past her best from the day you first met her.

>>8545805
Yeah, considering shes in retirement.. Made me so sad. Its really difficult to see fighters having a future at all, the US has an absurd amount of air superiority over just about -everybody-.

Truly the time of the bomber, although I am suprised to see the A-10 being used in Iraq as a gunship STILL.

>>8545862
Ms Typhoon is the best of the Rest. She's head and shoulders above Ms, Hornet and Falcon, some of the Sukhoi sisters, and Ms Fulcrum. Ms Rafael and her constantly feud. Ms Raptor laughs, but is secretly worried that such a low class chick can be so close to her own performance, and requires far less expensive jewelery to do it.

That being said, Ms Typhoon is still in therapy following her troubled childhood, and recent progress has been made. She's been spotted trying on new clothes and accessories that make her quite the force to be reckoned with on the block.

Fuck you faggots. Fictional waifus are the best waifus.

Why did they never see your beauty as I did? ;_;

>>8545916
Ms Typhoon, really, you're not supposed to be in this thread trying to increase your image. We know how you really are, and it's not nearly that high class.

Chin up girl! We don't hate you or anything though, you're welcome to hang out with us.

>>8545928
She's the Sukhoi sister that dissapeared. That being said, a newer, hotter sister has been seen flirting with the Indian and Chinese couples. She's a little bigger, a little faster, and apparently doesn't require nanny Ilyushin with Binoculars to keep her safe from pedophiles.

HAY LADIES, CALL ME

>>8545928
Miscarriages are the worst ;_;

>>8545980
Not a chance! They all know about how you treat ladies when they're not out for a stroll. Just like this poor Russian girl. Poor thing, don't be shy, he won't hurt you now.

>>8545967
Don't forget, that while her baby sister PAK is getting all the attention, another young Sukhoi has been seen in the neighborhood. She's stunningly fast, and rumoured to be incredibly flexible, getting into positions even her sisters think are uncomfortable. She's caught between generations, she aspires to be with Ms Raptor and her sister PAK, but isn't quite in that crowd. Meanwhile, Ms Hornet, Falcon, and Eagle, don't like her showing them up constantly.

/k/ faggotry in my /tg/? Me mad.

>>8545980
Classic Serial Killer. She's the fat bitch no one liked in school. She studied hard, and worked out, but she was always big boned. So she bought a rifle and sits in belltowers. All the others get the knife in the back, because if they were face to face, Mrs. Spectre wouldn't last a second.

>>8546034
Read thread. This is /tg/ related and has morphed into something awesome.

The A-10 likes being handled a bit rough. She may not be the smoothest girl in polite company, but she's got street smarts and she's tough. She's also a screamer:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a0_1235860576

And what a voice!

>>8546034

Oh look, I got some /a/ faggotry in your /k/ faggotry in /tg/. Or is that /c/? I'm not sure.

>>8546048

Poorly disguised /k/ thread is poor.

>>8546072
>>8546034
Very much /tg/ related.

Quit trying to ruin everything good, it won't bring you any lasting happiness.

>>8546072
I smell a 40k tard.

Bumpan awesome thread.

>>8545980
When describing the physical features of Hercules, ' lunch lady-ish' comes up a lot. Not content with such features, she decided to under go risky surgery to be more appealing to... someone.

She wanted the features that the younger more lithe women had, like guns... big guns. She wanted a feature to make the 'smaller' girls jealous.
And in what was probably a typographical error on the surgery documents, she got just that.

Her guns are the biggest on the block and sit lop sided to one side. She's eager to show them off too, and prove just how superior her guns are and how attractive she is, with her additions being barely contained in her frame.

She slow to any party for various reasons. Her tremendous heft does nothing to get her there any faster.

>>8546095
>>8546094
Guys, ignore him. It's just another troll begging fer attention.

>>8545980
>>8546038
Totally a dyke too. Butchest of the butch.

saging with the fury of a thousand sons.

>>8546107
GET THE FUCK oFF MY DECK!

>>8546107
Bumpin' awesome thread :P

>>8546057

Also, I saved this for some reason.

Those wacky japs.

Do her next!

>>8545395
Much appreciated, OP :)

Please let us know when he's done

Oooh, and her. She's a toughy...

>>8545615
You bet your ass it is

Someone archive this shit please

>>8545631

Spirit, Starfighter, and Blackbird. DO WANT.

>>8546169
already done dude.

Keep the planes coming for Air Force /tg/.

Since we're requesting womenization of planes...

>>8546182
Most excellent

>>8546169

It already is archived.

The Saab sisters didn't get a good profile. Someone do Ms Gripen!

Possible upgrade for OP's plane?

>>8546224

eject, eject!

This thread started off, ok. Then evolved into some cross between /k/, planefags, and desperate housewives. And that makes it epic.

OUR PLANES WILL BLOT OUT THE SUN!

>>8545112
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPyYH06fOsI&feature=related

CHEESE

How did this breathtaking air mercenary setting thread get turned into total animu faggotry?

I mean come on, we have the coordinates, we know the strength of both sides, let's come up with some scenarios.

How can they save money and still ensure mission success with redundant objectives? What could go wrong and how should they react? How is the weather in southern Sudan? Are there sand storms? How far to the border? Which jet is the slowest?

There's plenty to figure out.

>>8546142
She's an older woman with wide set eyes who didn't seem quite right on a good day. She reminisces about long ago parties where seemingly epic things occurred but never answers specific questions about them.
There is a quiet solace among her friends regarding the events they rarely talk specifically about but share intimately. Listening to their stories is akin to hearing a skipping record, where the bumps are assumed to be known and never questioned.

She "retired" many times but always found a new job, it wasn't in her blood to quit, and went on to do just about every dirty job she was presented. None of which would have been considered easy, or even sane.

>>8546275
Good points

Hopefully we'll soon be able to discuss them taking into account the game's mechanics once the GM has posted/uploaded the rules he's using :)

>>8546304
Despite featuring in a movie and having a book deal, she was never as famous as Ms. Tomcat.

>>8546275
Good question...unfortunately OP hasn't given us many details...probably because he hasn't gotten the full brief yet either, or he hasn't considered the info relevant.

Money saving techniques include iron bomb lobbing(check it out) and excessive use of gun pods and unguided rockets. All it takes is one on the deck pass by OPs ground attack and multi role aircraft to neutralize the AA.

I'm worried about the approach though. If that one canyon OP has told us about is the only realistic approach where you can stay under the radar i'm guessing the "missing" AA platform is probably hidden somewhere close to the end of that canyon run.

They may be lazy but we don't know if they're stupid.

>>8546275
I'd like to see more about the mechanics of the setting. Beyond that, there's just speculation.

>>8546218
Later.

>>8546351
The canyon run reminds me a lot of that one Area 88 episode

Seriously awesome :D

>>8546351
I'm still not convinced it's a canyon.

>>8546397
Someone google earth it or something.

The ignorance in this thread is painful, but postan image nonetheless.

>>8546430
What ignorance?

>>8546397
It isn't a canyon. Just a hilled landscape, just enough to block the SA-2 target radar. And it cannot fire at close in targets. VERY CLOSE in targets.

>>8546275
>How can they save money and still ensure mission success with redundant objectives?
loadout optimization. Specialize the payloads of various flight group members for specific tasks. Eliminate redundancy. This sacrifices tactical flexibility for the sake of cost reduction, but that's the life of a mercenary right there.

>What could go wrong and how should they react?
I million different things. I would suggest planning for emergency retreat, rapid reaction to enemy reinforcements, and strict wingman assignments with sharply defined roles.

>How is the weather in southern Sudan? A desert, typically the best possible weather for flying in. Also means no cloud cover, but that doesn't really affect much. High visibility, high glare from cockpit glass/instruments. Using the sun to your advantage should be a priority.

>Are there sand storms? If there are, the mission will be cancelled. Make sure the emrcs have accurate weather intel immediately before takeoff to ensure they don't waste money on fuel that they use to turn around and go home. Really not much of a danger though.

>How far to the border?
being a mercenary group, borders wont make much difference. Should know distance between home base and target for calculations of bingo fuel. Should contact contract provider about possibility of in-flight refueling (also, make sure everyone has that capability)
>Which jet is the slowest?
not much of an issue for anything other than time. All the jets can cruise with the slowest until they get into the combat airspace. After that, speed is the responsibility of the individual pilot and his machine.


Just a quick brainstorm for you

>>8546444

The analysis of the planes' abilities is all over the place, however I acknowledge that it might be just my assburgerism that prevents me from recognising humor when I see it, and this is indeed a better thread than majority of what /k/ craps out.

>>8546459
The brief said no air to air was available, nor AWACS.

>>8546448
I'm not worried about the SA2, i'm worried about the 4 ZSU23s, one of which is unaccounted for. Stick one on the end of those hills/valley and it'll be a hard day for mother.

>>8546489
I know.

AWACS is handy for large operations against equal forces. In this scenario it shouldn't be needed.

if there's no in-flight refueling, I would suggest our merry band of mercs invest in drop tanks. Keep in mind, however, that the mercs should be loathe to drop the tanks when they run empty. They may not cost much relative to other equipment, but that is no reason to throw money at the desert sands unless you absolutely have too

bumb for greatness!

>>8546487
The vast majority of the personifications take some pretty broad liberties.

Jane's Aircraft this is not.

>>8546786

Not like that's a bad thing. You want Jane's Aircraft, you go read Jane's Aircraft. As roleplayers we are more than used to exaggerating things for the benefit of more recognizable characterization.

>>8546786
Hehehe.

"Broad" Liberties. Nice.

>>8544739
Ah, Draken. Responsible of 99% of UFO sightings in Scandinavia during it's service perioid. God, I love that silhouette.

That aside, this thread is indeed something grand. It's a case study of how the phenomenon of moe anthropomorphism must have been born. Plus it touches the subject of modern mercenary campaigns, which is one of my pet projects.

How would fa/tg/uys generally react to a politically loaded merc campaign? Ignite brush wars in western africa on behalf of French uranium mining outfits? Torch fishing villages in south-east asian banana states to ferret out militias? Deliver revenge-for-hire in the balkans? Troubleshoot for mobsters in the 'stans and Russia?

I worry that the games could get very heavy and depressing at times, or might even net me accusations of racism.

>>8546865

I would enjoy playing those sort of games. It would be different. Roleplaying isn't always about being big damn heroes. While my moral compass would be spinning wildly, it is a game, and if it GMed properly I'd have the choice to do things differently.

>>8546865

If your players are of the sort would suffer from "politically correct" indignation when playing this sort of game, I doubt you have much fun playing anything else really.

>How would fa/tg/uys generally react to a politically loaded merc campaign? Ignite brush wars in western africa on behalf of French uranium mining outfits? Torch fishing villages in south-east asian banana states to ferret out militias? Deliver revenge-for-hire in the balkans? Troubleshoot for mobsters in the 'stans and Russia?

Best type of games in my opinion.

>>8546865
as long as you present the pc's with choices and alternatives, they can keep their mouths shut about their own issues with what their characters are doing.

If they don't then just SUDDENLY, SAMS FALL EVERYONE DIES.

>>8546914
The problem is, I don't have a gaming group, so it'd be a 'net game with strangers even at best.

>this thread

This is the best day of my life.

Appropriate I think

>>8546966
We have a strong net RPG family. Never met any of them in person, but our games are epic.

>>8547075

I am envious of you good sir. I am currently gameless, both in person and online.

Also appropriate for OP

<After reading the thread

For all of you who still want to play one

Old as dirt but still kinda tempting with its latest mods.

>>8546865
I love campaigns like that. As for my views on whether it would be fun to play, that would depend on the mechanics, but I already mentioned earlier in the thread that I'd love to play in OP's game, were I given the chance to, or in another game of a similar type.

Also tempting for the same reasons. Cheap, modular, multi role, and a lot of them out there.

Still probably one of the better all around choices. Sexy too.

Great looks but a bit dated and probably hard to maintain given its age and limited usage outside of SAAB country.

Last thing a ZSU23 should see.

No love for the Harrier?

And we've saged. Was a good run, look forward to the next one, and that rules set.

>>8547458
yeah seriously...i'll be watching the skys...and the boards...for the next pass

>>8547455
hahaha what the fuck.

That thing is awesome lol, sauce?

>>8547458
Just as well, the Friday rush of 40ktards finishing school is about to hit tg for the next 5 hours.

>>8547467
Google Fu'd it under "strange aircraft". Source is:
http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/barracks/9692-strange-vehicles-15.html

>>8547469
See you in the next thread, fellow airplane-fans :)

See you in the next episode of Air Force /tg/.

Same plane-time, same plane-channel.

The best part about the options in this RPG is that you don't want to take the best plane, which is kind of boring.

You want to take the plane that speaks to you the most. Given the choice between a Raptor or a Tomcat, I'd take the cat everytime. It just has more character.

>>8547528
I couldn't agree more ^_^

>>8547522
I loved that episode!

Dammit, flipping through pages and I missed this thread, AGAIN!

I've been inspired, I'm running this for my players as well.

>>8547593
Any idea about what system you'll be using, anon?