girl:1
man:0
space pirate:1
not a space pirate:0

done

I could do it in GURPS. But you have to decide, do I evaluate her in a serious tone and build her along those lines, or is she a video game character and designed along THOSE lines?

Each has serious tone differences and GURPS can only realistically and accurately depict one at a time.

>>8545038
well, why not both? I'm patient and can wait. Besides, might be fun to see how different the two versions are.

+10 Movement in TUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBES

I did it once before in in Mutants and Masterminds because i love metroid so much

based it of the Metroid Prime verson, so you just use the alternate power for the beam and change the damage type.
however, if your going to stat Samus out of the suit, you have to remember that the baseline stats are still at peak human level: she's jumping 20 ft and denting steal regardless of the power armor.

>>8545038
Well her fluff and game abilities pretty much match up to be the exact same, so I'm not sure where the decision would come in. And the Metroid series is pretty serious and internally consistent.

-4 STR

yea, I have yet to see any fluff that doesn't make sense/match with what has been already established.
of cores there's not a lot of fluff to begin with lol

>>8545203
There was a long manga done that's canon, explains in detail everything that happened up to and including the first game.

>>8545174
mostly its the interaction of her health system, her ammo pickup and her MASSIVE plot armor.

I saw a distinct difference between her original 8-bit style of play and her more recent iterations. Theres a trend now to make it less cartoony and more realistic.

I shall endeavor to make her most recent iteration a GURPS character though. It should be an interesting exercise

>>8545259
>mostly its the interaction of her health system, her ammo pickup and her MASSIVE plot armor.

Not sure if I get you. The suit IS motherfucking impossibly tough - it's part of why she can take armies by herself. The health bar is an abstraction for the player, yes, but the fact that her shields can take a big fucking railgun round straight-on with only partial damage isn't.

As for ammo... ammo really doesn't apply. The energy reactor her beam uses is pretty much self-sufficent and runs on Chozo Uberhandwavium, and doesn't really run out until the suit itself goes online.

>>8545302
I shall take these into account when statting her, thanks!

>>8545302
The hell? She can't really take on armies, unless taking them on 1-3 at a time counts... which isn't exactly unusual. Though it'd be fucking sweet if you could try.

Soulbow, with the Psionic Shot feats, gives you an infinite ammo blaster weapon that can be customized in various ways and charged up for extra damage.

The laser you get from Warlock is much less cool, but also get infinite Detect Magic for the Scan Visor, and some huge bonuses to jumping and tumbling.

Neither of which are really planet-destroying war goddesses.

>>8545323

No, I meant in fluff. In-game, you fight them three-on-one or so, six-on-one tops because, hell, the player is only human and that'd be mean and horrible game design, especially on a game that's more about exploration than about combat.

But Samus, as a character, does mow down veritable squads, with odds of like what, forty-on-one? and wins handily enough to go for the next squad subsequently. Things like that are why quite a few people in-universe don't actually believe she exists - because *obviously*, nobody could do that kind of shit.

Whats the pseudo-science behind her blaster? Lazers, charged particle beams, plasma...Whats it's default setting?

>>8545427
WTF is up with these games like Halo and Metroid in which the protagonist is only permitted to pull off feats of awshum when he/she's not under player control?

>>8545464

No idea. We asked the Chozo, but the subsequent exposition made our ambassadors' heads explode (read - no word on this as far as I'm aware).

>>8545477

Mostly because if you played them, they wouldn't be feats of awesome. They'd be fucking annoying stages that are no fun at all.

Besides, Metroid is not a game about combat, really.

>>8545464
Basic Power/Charge Beam assumed to be charged-particle, with other variations being alterations of the charge and/or particle type.- Wave Beam being electrified ion-clusters, Ice Beam being thermally-negative energy-pulse, Plasma Beam being, well, high-temperature plasma. Missles and Morph Ball still unexplained - suspect subspace "pocketing" may be involved.

>>8545464
lasers would be coherent over range like what we see, but move far too quickly. plasma globbules /should/ spread over distance if all they are doing is moving in the transmitted direction, so they'd lack the range we see but have the right speed.

a plasma glob that's doing weird helical crazy motion along the way might be coherent, it's messy exciting physics.

>>8545464

http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Arm_Cannon

http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Power_Suit_Mechanics

Booyah, bitches.

>>8545478

Samus is a big girl outside of the suit, but the Morph Ball is tiny- and in Prime, at least, the transformation happens in an explicitly non-mass-conserving way.

The suit can convert matter to energy and back again.

That's how every single piece of weapons technology from every single species in the known universe is able to integrate seamlessly into her suit. The suit deconstructs the physical mechanism of how the weapon works, and then rebuilds it as part of the arm cannon.

As far as the suit and the Chozo are concerned, there is no difference between act of performing a task, and the tool that is designed for it.

Samus' blaster is Destruction. That's how it works.

here we are!

Samus Aran (138 points)
Age ?; Human/Chozo; 6'3"; 198

ST 10 [0]; DX 14 [80]; IQ 10 [0]; HT 12 [20].
Damage 1d+1/2d+1; BL 45 lbs.; HP 10 [0]; Will 10 [0]; Per 10 [0]; FP 12 [0].
Basic Speed 6.5 [0]; Basic Move 7 [0]; Block 0; Dodge 10; Parry 11 (Brawling).

Advantages
Alternate Form (Ball form) (_Free) [0]; Appearance (Very Beautiful) [16]; Catfall [10]; Combat Reflexes [15]; Double-Jointed [15]; Extra Basic Move 1 (_Free; Affects displayed Basic Move score) [0]; Hyperspectral Vision (_Free) [0]; Lifting ST 5 (_Free) [0]; Signature Gear (Suit and gun) 3 [3]; Striking ST 5 (_Free) [0]; Suit benefiets [0]; Super Jump 1 (_Free) [0].

Disadvantages
Enemy (Ridley) (Equal in power to the PC) (9 or less; Hunter) [-10]; Enemy (Space pirates) (Less powerful than the PC) (9 or less) [-5]; Weirdness Magnet [-15].

Skills
Acrobatics-12 (DX-2) [1]; Brawling-14 (DX+0) [1]; Climbing-18 (DX+4) [1]; Dropping-13 (DX-1) [1]; Free Fall-13 (DX-1) [1]; Guns/TL10 (Rifle)-14 (DX+0) [1]; Jumping-14 (DX+0) [1]; Swimming-12 (HT+0) [1]; Throwing-13 (DX-1) [1].

Equipment
TL11 Hex suit DR 40* all areas
plasma battle rifle 3dX5(2) burn ex
plasma grenades 6dX4burn ex

>>8545680
>>8545680
The Morph Ball isn't really THAT small, only about one meter across, roughly half the height of a standing adult human, and it is physically feasible for an exceptionally agile person to maneuver themselves into such a small space - the suit's adaptive nature "re-forms" around them (as noted by the fact the ball changes as the suit does) as they do so. The "inner glow" is a sort of gyroscopic forcefield, allowing the ball to be controlled without loss of equilibrium.

The character generator was having a wacky-ass time exporting data, as I am on my netbook, Im not surprised this happened.

But that's her in a basic nutshell. The advantages with 0 point cost are granted by the suit, which itself, is signature gear indivisible from her as a person. Her basic blaster acts as the plasma rifle, and her grenades are similar in type to the plasma model. As an extra thematic note, her rifle takes up the use of her arm, and she is mostly immune to her own grenade damage. All in all, the suit provides the majority of her strength and speed while her skill and acrobatic talents make up the rest.

>>8545776
I approve of this.

Anyone else wanna try? Hell, if we can tweak a Warforged with Eldritch Blast and some wands to recreate Mega Man, Samus Aran can't be much harder, right?

>>8545904
Ugh, why does EVERYONE try to emulate people in cookie cutter systems? GURPS is a universal system and can emulate anything. So is HERO. Why would you insist on using DnD for these creations?

Obviously accuracy is not high on the list for anyone's criteria.

>>8545934
Don't misunderstand, I'm not insisting anything - I just used D&D terminology as an example.

The point I was trying to make was to see if making a Samus-equivalent with magic, not science, was possible.

I tried.

Warmachine MK2:
Mercenary Warcaster
Warjack Points: 2
Damages: 14 boxes
Base Size: Small Base
SPD: 7
STR: 6
MAT: 7
RAT: 9
DEF: 16
ARM: 19
CMD: 9
FOC: 9
-
-Special Rules
Advance Deployment
Pathfinder
Stealth
Weapon Master: This model rolls an extra die when making attacks.
Tough
Gunfighter: This model can use ranged weapons in close combat
Arcantrik Turbine: At the start of this model's activation, it may either gain +2" SPD or +1 focus point
Riposte: This model may immediately make 1 melee attack against any model that misses it in melee combat.
Virtuoso: This model may make ranged and melee attacks in the same activation.
Alchemical Mask: This model ignores gas and cloud effects.
-
-Weapons:
Arm Cannon
Range: 14, AOE:-, POW:10
Magical Weapon, Powerful attack (May boost both attack and damage for 1 focus point), Life Drinker (When this weapon kills a living model, immediately heal the wielder 1d3 points)
-
-Spells:
---Light Beam: Focus:1, Upkeep, Target: caster
Arm Cannon gains the Balefire (+1 die of damage versus Undead models) and Stall (any warjack hit is reduced to DEF7 and cannot run or charge) properties
---Dark Beam Focus:1, Upkeep, Target: Caster
Arm Cannon gains the Blessed (ignore spell effects that add to the model's ARM or DEF) and Disruption (warjack hit loses all focus and cannot be allocated focus or channel spells for 1 round)
---Wave Beam
Arm Cannon gains the Armor Piercing (halve the target's base ARM when rolling damage) and Brutal Damage (roll an extra die of damage) properties
---Long Beam
Arm Cannon gains +6 range and True Sight (Ignore stealth, concealment, and cover)
---Ice Beam
Arm Cannon gains the Damage: Ice descriptor and the Freeze property (any model hit becomes stationary for 1 round unless it has Immunity: Cold)

--------------------------

I wanted to include Missiles and the ball-form, but it was getting crowded, and is already grossly overpowered, so I'll call it quits here.

>>8545960
It's still the same issue then isnt it? You want someone to make a crayon drawing of a painting. You want an inaccurate description when you can have an accurate depiction. Fuckin hell, I hate that so much.

I USED to settle for DnD. Then, I actually read ANYTHING ELSE, and I got wise to the stupidity of putting up blinders and walking along a path with a lead. I am a creative person. I GM campaigns. I teach at a new gamers group. I mentor. DnD is a bad teaching tool. Its third grade compared to every other system.

>>8546006
You're about to put them all into a fit, shh.

>>8545934
except GURPS is terrible and you are terrible for liking it

>>8546024
GURPS is actually a really good system. You don't have to hate on it just because some tripfag thinks it's the alchemists' stone of RPGs.

>>8546006
Fine then, smartass. Use some other system if you like. DnD is not the issue here.

I want to see if it is possible to recreate Samus' abilities without relying on technology, but using magic instead. I don't care if you use D&D, d20, RIFTS, or throwing fucking dice at the wall and counting the dents they leave in the plaster. Quit bitching about "D&D is cookiecutter lame wah wah wah." That's not the point and I don't give a fuck about how butthurt hearing the name "Gygax" makes you.

>>8546044
I never said THAT. I said it was a modular system, just like HERO, Risus and Spirit of the Century.

Noone should play anything they dont want to, and when you want to play Samus, you should be able to play her. Accurately and intelligently.

>>8546067
Why not just make a magic suit of fullplate that gives Samus a base set of enhancements, and then make each of her abilities an additional collectible magic item that integrates into the armor and gives extra abilities? And the more pieces she has, the more powerful it is? Design it as an item set, possibly artifacts.

>>8546077
Fair enough.

>>8545477
To be fair; in Halo 2, a player can charge into a room called the "Mausoleum of the Arbiter" (most online FAQs call this room the Breaking Benjamin room, because a song of theirs plays during this combat) in the middle of a covenant civil war. One can wait it out so that they kill themselves off a bit, or one can charge in...to roughly 30-to-1 Odds.

When things like that happen, you DO feel awesome after surviving it

>>8546087
That could work. But how would one stat the artifacts? (for the sake of argument, lets go with the first Prime game)

http://www.metroid-database.com/fanfic/armcannonmechanics.doc

Interesting theories.

>>8546163
Warforged components.

>>8546298
I thought one had to BE a Warforged to use those...

>>8546006

The problem here is that I have read GURPS, I have read D&D, and liked D&D a lot more. GURPS is plain annoying.

But really, lately I mostly play M&M. Perfectly serviceable as a generic, without the extreme annoyance GURPS's design theory causes me.

This thread pleases me. Nice job, guys.

>>8546344
self forged also works

Battletech

Counts as 2/3 Elemental Battle Armor.

Simple.

>>8546751
self forged makes nonsense

Btw how are you gonna incorporate her scan visor?

Its a pretty important asset being able to detect enemy weaknesses in a very short time notice

>>8546879
Darkvision and bonuses to Search/Spot?

Hm... how would you work in melee combat stats, though? Aside from the Smash Bros. games (which, obviously, don't count), all Samus does is shoot... I've never seen her even throw a punch.

>>8547430
really?

now you're just being retarded. of course you cant mimick a fictional character EXACTLY in a rule system it wasn't designed for

Lost Primarch?

>>8547460

> doesn't know iron warriors.

>>8545021
40kids are being furries again, wheee

>>8547486
samus is rather anti-40k if you think about it

Yes she wears a battle suit but the universe is completely different.

There are no higher powers to speak off. The closest thing is the possible ascension of the chozo

The universe carries a vague sense of hope in it. Yes there are multiple evil organisations, yes there are creatures out there that would make the average person shit his pants but there are still people fighting cause they believe its right

It has a feeling of lost glory, but it invokes a more sad feeling, of having lost before you have found it.

what would she look like as a magic card? I don't know how to balance them well, but is green a reasonable color, to play up the "hunter" angle?

>>8547430
power bomb+screw attack are pretty much the only melee weapons someone will ever need

>>8547486
Where in the glowing blue FUCK did you get "furry" out of any of that post?

>>8547575
Don't feed the troll. Just pretend it doesn't exist.

>>8547575
technically after fusion she's only for a minor part human

>>8547606
Nope. Absorbing the SA-X basically hit the Big Reset Button on her DNA - she's more-or-less how she was before the encounter.

>>8547575
>glowing blue

lol

Samus would make a pretty kick ass lost primarch

>>8547846
unless I'm mistaken, pretty-much all of /tg/ already claims she is.

<---Obligatory.

>>8546879
For D&D, it would be a bonus on her various knowledge checks. Maybe +5, plus another +2 each round she scans until she gets all the data she wants.

ALL HAIL THE LOST PRIMARCH!

>>8547939
more like Unneccessary.

>>8547945
That might work, though might wanna limit how long the scan rounds can last, or how big the bonuss get, to keep it from being overpowered.

>>8547994
honestly it could be +100 and it still wouldn't be OP

knowledge skills suck, bro

>>8547643

So, back to being Woman/Bird only? Well, that's better, yeah.

>>8547575
40kids are just like furries. They feel the overriding need to apply their shit to everything. They can't look at something and think "Hey that's cool." They think "This would be so much cooler if it were GRIMDARK IN THE DARK GRIM FUTURE and we should add some skulls."

It is just like furries and the way that they way they make everything they touch furry. See attached image.

Why the fuck isn't this thread a Samus dump?

What.

The.

Fuck.

>>8548064
Your stupidity is literally making my head and chest hurt.

Samus would look pretty sweet with a Eversor style mask

>>8548097
The truth hurts doesn't it.

>>8548092
Because this isn't about gratuitous tits, you retard. This is a stats and discussion thread. Porn can be found everywhere else, fuck off.

>>8548064
Is just an excuse for >>8548064 to post furfaggotry

>>8548108
The only commentary on 40K I made in the OP was that it had been overdone. That's it. I don't even LIKE 40K, to be honest.

>>8547939
Post more.

SoB Samus drawfaggotry please

Metroid is kinda hawt

>>8548110
Dump does not equal tits.
Dump equals Samus Aran related things.
Fucking brain damaged mouthbreather.

>>8548160
>Metroid

>>8548064
except the thread is asking for stating in everything BESIDES 40K YOU FUCKING IDIOT!

>>8548142
I approve of this.

Samus in Spirit of the Century

Aspects: Raised by Chozo, Personal vendetta against Space Pirates, Chozo power armor, Everything is compatible with Chozo tech, Solitary warrior, "The hunter", How the hell did she get there?, Slayer/protector of metroid species, "Don't call me Lady", There goes the planet.

Skills:
Superb: Athletics
Great: Guns, engineering
Good: Stealth, investigation, alertness
Fair: Endurance, might, science, mysteries
Average: Resources, burglary, academics, pilot, resolve

Stunts: Contortionist, Acrobat, Mighty Leap, Personal Gadget(x2)

Personal gadget: Chozo power armor
(Note: assuming this is in the future, and power armor is a normally available item (3 stress boxes and has a gun))
Armored
Rugged (x2)
Upgrade - Morph Ball (+2 to fitting through small spaces)
Special effect - Power beam (gun works on anything that has some sort of energy: electronic, alive, ghost, whatever)
Craftsmanship - Athletics

>>8548940
Not bad. Can't really say I know much about the system, but it sounds good.

And here's a second version of Samus in Spirit of the Century, more suitable for the default 1920s setting

Aspects: Raised by Chozo Monks, Personal vendetta against pirates, Ancient Chozo armor, The Chozo were involved in everything, Solitary warrior, "The hunter", How the hell did she get there?, Slayer/protector of the dodo, "Don't call me Lady", There goes another island.

Skills:
Superb: Athletics
Great: Guns, engineering
Good: Stealth, investigation, alertness
Fair: Endurance, might, science, mysteries
Average: Resources, burglary, academics, pilot, resolve

Stunts: Contortionist, Acrobat, Mighty Leap, Personal Gadget(x2)

Personal gadget: Chozo mechanical armor
(Note: base item is a medieval suit of armor. Assume 3 stress boxes)
Armored
Rugged (x2)
Armed
Special effect - Electronic gun (attached gun works on anything that has some sort of energy: electronic, alive, ghost, whatever)
Special effect - Mechanical joints (+1 to athletics)

>>8548940
seems allright

Seeing how hard it is to put anything from the metroid universe in comparison with almost any other universe due to the limited information we get on how exactly the stuff works

Thats why I'd love if there was some kind of RTS or RPG based on the metroid universe where we get explained what the heck is going on

>>8549218

http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Metroid_Wiki

Will a wiki help?

>>8549153
Summary for people who don't know Spirit of the Century

Aspects can be any cool thing about your character. You get fate points for roleplaying according to your aspects when it's really not in your best interests. If you can tie an aspect into an action you perform, you can spend a fate point for a huge bonus.

Skills work exactly like you'd expect.

Stunts are special skill-related deals. The three I picked are +2 to athletics involving fitting through tight spaces, perform complex feats while moving, ignore lots of terrain when moving from place to place in a combat, and stuff to let her get that power armor.

Armored makes something very hard to damage, especially if it has lots of stress boxes. Rugged adds two stress boxes, meaning the power armor has 7. That's more than most characters.

The power beam and morph ball are fairly self-explanatory. Craftsmanship (athletics) means +1 to athletics. Note that she already has Superb (+5) athletics, so this brings her up to Fantastic (+6). When fitting through tight spaces, the morph ball and contortionist kick in, bringing her up to +10. If she invoked "How the hell did she get there?" that'd be +12. Note that the scale tops out at +8 (Legendary).

I love this thread.

>>8549218
My understanding, based on the fragments from the series and wild speculation:

The bulk of the Metroid universe uses standard science fiction principles. Standard man-portable technology is good enough for powered armor and particle weapons. Large battleship-sized technology tops out at manipulating gravity.

There exists rare and experimental technology that goes outside of those boundaries. The big experimental trend is setting up electromagnetic containment fields to fling packets of whatever the hell - the other bounty hunters use this to fling around plasma, supercooled gas, and the like. This technology is rare because it is experimental, but in a few years it might become the normal. Unlike 40k (and many settings, really), the Metroid universe is a brief snapshot in time, and technology is still advancing rapidly. For example, gravity generators that are only present on large ships in the Prime series are being experimentally used by the helicopter-sized Nightmare by the time of Fusion.

>>8550092
The Chozo reached our current level of experimental technology ages ago, and their ancient artifacts are still useful enough to be of military concern. Their technology stopped advancing shortly after this though, and they moved to develop spiritually instead. Some time relatively recently, the Chozo discovered a sort of "life energy," which is a technology so advanced that it sounds like spiritualism to us.

The Chozo updated most of their technology to use this life energy: they made power armor powered off of it with visors that allow one to see the remnants of life energy floating by newly deceased foes. They made a beam weapon that shoots blasts of life energy. They engineered the metroid species to drain life energy. Because the Chozo stopped developing technology not long after they reached the rest of the universe's current level, and because the Chozo all either died or ascended soon after discovering life energy, this technology is very similar in form to the rest of "modern" tech, despite using vastly more advanced mechanisms and power sources.

one more item to stat...

The Baby.

>>8550103
The chozo ability to transform anything into pure energy is more of a like transhumanist singularity. Metroid can take on a theoretically infinite amount of enemies, because she can replicate shields and weaponry from life and materials. This is shit that would be god-level technology in Eclipse Phase, let alone Metroid's (mostly grounded) universe.


Samus' gear is infinitely more advanced than anything anybody has in the series. It adapts itself exactly to what she needs and what is around her. If her gear appears as weak as the weapons of those around her, that's only because the suit hasn't decided she needs better yet, and assimilated new technologies.

This is the true Samus to me.

She needs a 1980s style hairdo to fit into 40k properly. That way, she'll fit into 40k better than some of the later additions too.

http://www.metroid-database.com/index.php?g=sm&p=interview

According to the developers behind Super Metroid, Samus is visually based on Kim Basinger, and the original plans for her death animation and ending scene in that game included brief nudity. Also her B-W-H measurements in centimeters are 106-60-90, she has a birthmark whose location only the director knows... and one of the graphic designers claims she's actually a shemale, but we're pretty sure he's joking about that one.

>>8550628
And this is why gaming comics suck.

>>8550702
They were based on the original (NES) Metroid. They had her ship here, which doesn't look like her head.

Imagine if Space Marine ships looked like giant Space Marine heads?

That's why the comics are better.

>>8550407
Your version is vastly less interesting. Everyone over the age of 14 has gotten over infinitely powerful bullshit.

>>8549218

Heh. That'd be cool. Federation vs Pirates vs... what?

In /v/, though, we usually prefer to daydream about a Dwarf Fortress/Dungeon Keeper style game from the perspective of the pirates. You have to plan your bases and defend them from the hostile lifeforms, the Federation, your own experiments blowing up (frequent occurence), and random bounty hunters.

And then, the final stage would be Samus finally arriving, and you trying to delay her as much as possible while hauling ass away, because the Hunter cannot be stopped.

>>8550747
>>8550747
>>8550747
>>8550747
Looks like an Ibis, from EVE Online

>>8550753

He does have one point amidst of that, though - Samus's suit seems to have a way to recharge energy from her slain enemies, somehow. And a downright absurd ability to absorb technology easily. The "mass to energy and back" thing might not be that farfetched, really...

80s Samus is best.

WS6 BS6 S4(6) T4(6) W3(5) I6 A4 Ld10 2+/3++

Arm cannon can fire Plasma (as star cannon), missiles (as missile launcher), super missiles (18" S10 AP1)

>>8550628
>>8550986
Doesn't look a thing like her.

>>8545981

>>8551612
Never beat the NES version in under 2 hours, I guess.

>>8551612
Guess he never beat the NES original in under 2 hours...

>>8551657
>>8551686

NESmind

bump

bump

Wow, threads last forever now.

Any other systems need a Samus?

>>8556779
ALL systems need Samus.

>>8559422
Hell, everything needs Samus.

Twice if possible.

>>8559673
Samus-on-Samus? I could dig that.

>>8560094
Eh, there's always that "Haloid" thing with the female Spartan...

Has this thread been archived?
I think it should be