"So, tell me avout your muzzer."

"My mother was a dam. She didn't even know my father before he did her. It was all for the same of breeding. All of it. Just trying to produce the perfect little Thoroughbred..."

"I see. Und how does zat make you feel?"

>>8562185
What is this for? and what are you flying?

>>8562237
It's for an RPG that I joine a few days ago. I'm flying an F4 since it seems to be the best multirole choice.

>>8562219
... oh you.

>>8562275
Wrong, you are flying an F-4 because it is the manliest fighter ever made, and has more character than your average Dickens or Dostoevsky novel put together.

>>8562296
Yes. The only thing it lacks is the ability to turn.

>>8562321
Turns are for people who can't light the cans and hit near Mach 2.

>>8562185
Damn.

Rocket Spam.

Disappointing none of you guys chose this.

>>8562388
It's /tg/, we wouldn't know a capable airframe if we tried.

>>8562185
Funny how this game seems incredibly interesting, and at the same time, complete gibberish to me.

Anonball cannot into airspace.

>>8562440
Actually, I am anxiously awaiting some form of ruleset, since based on all the info I've seen, and with this new post with LAWL weapons, I get the impression that this game is basically a mega air sim in RPG form.

@OP: You guys are loaded for motherfucking WAR!

>>8562411
The airframe as such is good, but you got to agree that the types they chose are a tiny bit more modern.

>>8562388

My knowledge of aircraft has failed me.
What is that?

>>8562501
Aside from the Mirage, they all have two engines as well. A-4 only has one.

>>8562548
A-4 Skyhawk, vietnam era light strike aircraft.

>>8562185
YOU ARE GO FOR LAUNCH OP!

Kick some somali terrorist Ass!

>>8562557
And, together with the F-4 and MiG-21, it is porof that you can use fuckawesome and make it into an airplane.

Im pulling for you OP, my first airplane was an F-4 and i thought it carried a shit ton of armament

Godspeed OP, show em what F-4s are made of

>>8562620
IRL? Cause that is awesome! I fly a Trash Hauler, never wanted to do the fighter thing myself.

>>8562631
>>8562620
>>8562493
>>8562364

Yeah. That little airfield doesn't stand a goddamn chance. Between them, they have enough firepower to make it a bad day in Baghdad for a small country. Just a smoking crater in the Somalian highlands.

>>8562185
I'm actually proud to have contributed to this.

Doesn't stand a chance. The F-4s alone could make it pay, but that Flanker will DOMINATE.

>>8562640
yeah and its true that it doesnt turn worth a damn...... but luckily it has some of the best survivability in vietnam

>>8562694
lets not get too overconfident, im sure the DMs gonna have a couple tricks up his sleeve......im sure theres going to be some form of challenge

>>8562771
Hahaha, yeah, OP will be back and be like:

JUST AS PLANNED! Except we shot down an airliner and accidentally snakeyed a pig farm.

>>8562185
Sounds like you are doing Wicked Weasel OP, here's a thought.

An SA-2 can control three missiles at once, but to my knowledge, the early ones can only fire guide on one target, so, if you are doing a coordinated strike, make sure you are the SA-2's first shot, launch your HARMS, then max burner, hard turn out of there, since you bet your ass two or three rocket propelled telephone poles are on their way up to say hello.

>>8562388
Yeah seriously. I've been pushing the A-4 since I found the second thread.

Still waiting on that rules set OP. Come on man don't let us down.

Oh and kick that airfields ass for us. Don't take no shit from it.

>>8562822
Another thought, don't treat your intel as gospel. Even if you take out that SA-2 radar, make another pass and wreck those missiles. It wouldn't be out of character to have a mobile radar station (tracked vehicle) away from the launch/primary radar site to wreck your day.

>>8562822
WILD weasel. Wicked Weasel is something else, but just as glorious.

OP again, I'm off, thanks guys, tell you how it went when I get back.

>>8562873
Check Six. Keep your corners clean. Light the cans only if necessary and remember the speed bump (your plane will slow just before the burners light off)

And take this for luck. (What, you guys are all humming it right now anyway!)

>>8562873
Good luck! And get us that damn rule set!

>>8562889
This

>>8562883
Actually I have this in my head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtqftJlFpvk

Strangely appropriate.

>>8562906
>>8562889
agreed

>>8562790
LMAO

Are they using somalia as a setting?

>>8562790
The mental imagery of them blowing the shit out of some innocent pork amuses me greatly. BACON BITS EVERYWHERE!

>>8562935
I think they are based out of the DRC.
Also:
Plane List from OP post in the other thread.
F-CK-1 Ching-Kuo
J-10 Annihilator
F-106 Delta Dart
Mirage 2000
Mirage F1
Mirage III
Rafael
Eurofighter Typhoon
A-10 Thunderbolt
F-111 Aardvark
F-16C Falcon
F-16E Falcon
F-16XL Falcon
A-1 Skyraider
A-6 Intruder
F-14B Tomcat
F-14D Tomcat
XF-29 Wildcat II
Kfir
T-50 Golden Eagle
F-104C Starfighter
F-22A Raptor
F-35A Lightning II
F-35B Lightning II
F-35C Lightning II
AV-8B Harrier II
F-101B Voodoo
F-15C Eagle
F-15E Eagle
F-15SE Silent Eagle
F/A-18 Hornet
F/A-18E Super Hornet
XF-31
MiG-21 Fishbed E
MiG-23 Flogger E
MiG-25 Foxbat
MiG-29SM Fulcrum C
MiG-31 Foxhound
MiG-35 Fulcrum E
F-100 Super Sabre
F-20 Tigershark
F-5E Tiger II
YF-23 Black Widow II
Tornado ADV
F-105 Thunderchief
JAS-35 Draken
JAS-37 Viggen
JAS-39 Gripen
Jaguar
PAK-50
Su-17 Fitter
Su-24 Fencer
Su-25 Frogfoot
SU-27BM Flanker J
Su-27S Flanker B
Su-30MKI Flanker H
Su-33 Flanker D
Su-34 Fullback
Su-35 Flanker E
A-7 Corsair
F-8E Crusader
Yak-38 Forger
Yak-141 Freestyle

So what shall we do until OP returns? Come up with horrible ways he and his merc comrades might get the shit kicked out of them on their first mission?

Theyre bombing africa so all they have to worry about is 10yr olds with AKs and aids

>>8562982
Ground Chief: Wow, looks like you got shot up pretty bad!
Pilot: No, birdstrike.
Ground Chief: Birdstrike...
Pilot: Yeah
Ground Chief: Tell me, were those 23mm birds, or 12.7 mm?

>>8563041
HEH HEH

>>8562975
I'd take the first one on that list, the Ching whatever, just so I could say I fly a FUCK-1 Fighter.

>>8562982
The mission was going fine, until Max flew into a tree. That's when things started to go dwonhill...

>>8563027
Not true they could encounter any number of these aircraft
Aermacchi MB-326
Aermacchi SF-260
Aérospatiale SA 316
Antonov An-26
Britten-Norman BN-2
Cessna 150
Cessna 310
de Havilland Canada DH-5 Buffalo
Douglas C-47 Skytrain
Eurocopter AS 332
Lockheed C-130 Hercules
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 Flogger
MiG-23UB
Mil Mi-35 Hind-E
Mil Mi-26 Halo
Reims Cessna 337 Skymaster
Sukhoi Su-25 Frogfoot

>>8562964

Gentlemen, care to explain why you felt the three little piggies deserved to die?

>>8562935
Sudan, actually.

Also, the Flanker is just hilarious overkill against two MiG-17 and a Fishbed.

>>8562185
STICK IT TO THEM op.

>>8562719
I'm excited about this mission and I'm not even playing in this game. It just reeks of awesome.

>>8563138
A flanker is Overkill against most aircraft.

i just read the tech manual on the flanker ....holy crap.....make the rest of OPs force seem like support........but you know what i bet the DM saw this and the Flankers gonna get SAMed first

>>8563195
Actually, from what OP said before, The flanker guy almost bankrupted himself, and he took the old Flanker B or something. He had almost no cash left for ammunition, and you can bet he'll be coming in only after that SAM is down, and really high, ie out of range of the ZSUs.

Someone should fly a Fokker Dr. I for lulz.

Also, enemy rounds go right through it and missiles will ignore it :D

>>8563215
Uncanny its so slow and lightweight it woukld be ignored

>>8563215
Somehow I think that gsh23mm rounds and a DR1 wouldn't get along, especially not at 1500rpm fire rate.

>>8563247
This needs to go to /k/

>>8563247

The thing is that they would be flying so fast and you so low that they would have no time to aim properly, specially since their minimum speed is way above your maximum.

>The other F4 has four LAU-60/A launches, 4 AIM-7 Sparrows, And 2 AIM-9Ls

Even though I hate the AIM-7 (USNF'97 faithfully modeled it's reliability, to my unending hate,) if you're going to use them, this is how to do it. Take at least four.

And the rocket pods are an excellent, cheap way to add ground attack capability.

>>8563230
>>8563215
Easy solution. Do a mach 1.5 flyby. The shock wave would tear that little fokker to pieces.

This F-4 love makes me remember the USNF '97 Vietnam campaign.

I'd reinstall, but it runs too fast on modern machines. :<

>>8563268

You guys have no love for classics.

*Goes play Dynamix's Red Baron 3D*

>>8563277
If you can find it, Jane's fighters anthology has ATF, ATF Nato Fighters, and USNF 97 in one box that runs on modern pcs no problem. If you really want, I can try to iso my disc copy.

>>8563287

HELL YES I fucking love that game. I still remember the time the Red Baron showed up at my Aerodrome.

WRONG FUCKING AERODROME.

>>8563290

Oh, that sounds absolutely AWESOME, thanks for letting me know. I'm sure I can find a torrent.

Dammit /tg/, now I'm stuck in Wikipedia reading about Bloody April.
Stupid air-war thread.

>>8563301
This is the flight sim that got me into flight sims.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighters_Anthology
Fighters Anthology is a compilation of flight simulators that includes Advanced Tactical Fighters, Advanced Tactical Fighters - Nato Fighters, and U.S. Navy Fighters '97 - all games from Electronic Arts' Jane's Combat Simulations, integrated into one game. The game features aircraft from the 1960s through the late 1990s from a variety of nations, including a few hypothetical aircraft such as the Aurora. About a hundred aircraft are flyable, including fixed-wing fighters, bombers, and attack planes. The game includes a mission editor, detailed manual, and featured multiplayer capabilities. Six campaigns are included: the Baltics, Egypt, the Kuril Islands, Ukraine, Vietnam, and Vladivostok. Each campaign has about 25-40 missions and features several flyable aircraft from each campaign's time period. A Quick Mission option is also available for quick dogfights or ground attacks.

Make it sound good!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brevity_code

>>8563301

I got challenged by an ace to a one-on-one duel once.

I go there and the bastard shows up with three wingmen.

>>8563324
Bookmarked.

Also, op, YOU BETTER TAKE NOTES, since I expect a detailed after action report. We put a lot of work into getting you ready, I want to know how shit went down!

God the Flanker's drooping neck is gorgeous.

1. Change to WW2 aircraft and steal plot from Iron Eagle 3.
2. ?????
3. PROFIT!

>>8563355
Yeah seriously! Three threads just to prep you! You better pay up.

>>8563386

FUCK YEAH

would play this

>>8563386
WW2 air combat is overdone. This RPG actually smells fresh.

>>8563395
The third thread doesn't count, since about 70% involved sexualizing planes by giving them personalities.

This thread lacks DELICIOUS DELICIOUS PAK-FA

>>8563399
Fuck you i'd still play a WW2 version of this before I played OPs version. And thats sayin something since i'm practically tripping over myself to play OPs game.

>>8563421
Different strokes for different folks. I think combat would be easier in WW2, since you don't have guided missiles.

>>8563340

>three wingmen

Oh yeah, some of those niggers just LOVED pulling that shit.

Didn't stop me from ripping their guts out anyways, though.

And as I wheeled over their smoking wrecks, I nonchalantly aimed my nose for home and said,

"Looks like you and your gang.... got BANGED."

>>8563419

>>8563432

>I think combat would be easier in WW2

Play IL-2 sometime and try to hit anything, ANYTHING, with guns.

Protip: aerial gunnery is fucking hard.

Sukhoi ain't got nothing on this.

80s Anime makes for great RPG settings.

>>8563457

Doesn't that show involve MiG-21s and F-8Js duking it out? I need to see that sometime.

>>8563453
>Sukhoi ain't got nothing on this.
>Posts a Fail-22

>>8563448
I do, it's not hard at all for me. You just have to learn bullet weight. .50 cals are the easiest. The LVHC on some german planes take more skill, but depending on your angle, you should still score one or two hits, and that's all you need with one of those.

>>8563440
>>8563440
You are a Huge airplane, that means you have Huge guts.........RIP AND TEAR!

>>8563469
It's a great concept wrecked by Anime and japanese culture.

>>8563472

If you're good at it, yeah, you can do it.

I don't know that I'd say modern BVR missile combat is easier or harder, though- there is some mad insane shit you need to consider with those weapons, when to release, how far away to release, managing radar settings, etc. It's tricky.

>>8563471

Fuck man, no one picked the A-10 Thunderbolt?

The plane that was build AROUND it's main gun?

Fuck man, I'd've picked the Thunderbolt.

Or an AC-130. Spooky, man. Fucking thing has more guns on it than most people know *exist*.

I have just downloaded some air traffic control mp3s for my next campaign.

Also:
Pilot:
Bratislava Tower, Bratislava Tower, this is Oscar Oscar Kilo estabished ILS 16.

Tower:
Oscar Oscar Kilo, Guten Tag, cleared to land 16, wind calm - and by the way: this is Vienna Tower.

Pilot:
Bratsilava Tower, Oscar Oscar Kilo passed the outer marker.

Tower:
Oscar Oscar Kilo roger, and once more: you are approaching Vienna !

Pilot:
Confirm, this is NOT Bratislava?

Tower:
You can believe me, this is Vienna!

Pilot:
But why? We want to go to Bratislava, not to Vienna!

Tower:
Oscar Oscar Kilo, roger. Discontinue approach, turn left 030 and climb to 5000 feet, vectors to Bratislava.

>>8563519
AC-130, as discussed before, is USELESS in a high threat environment.

>>8563519
We discussed both these options and dismissed them for their extremely limited battle role and extensive logistic requirements.

Also way above budget.

>>8563526

Hey, I never said it was a good idea, I just said I would've.

>>8563522
Make sure you get new york jake, he's famous amongst us controllers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGNMieh1wUw

NEED

RULES

NOW

>>8563484

I've never seen the old version, but the new OVA is pretty sweet.

It's basically anime Top Gun, but I'm not complaining.

>>8563440

I managed to down 2 of the sons of bitches and then I was forced to do a crash-landing.

>>8563562
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKZLWHiktj0

Go give 'em the Business OP!

>>8563546

>implying you're an air traffic controller

I want this to be true.

Here, something you'll like:

http://www.officerresource.com/forums/f27/sr-71-radio-chatter-15027/

>>8563585

>crash-landing

>only way to survive being shot down in a game without parachutes

>epic fight

>>8563680

*High fives*

>>8563386

Fucken THIS

Totally underrated movie

You can't fly away from these.
They're faster.
But you can kill the target radar when the missile is already airborne. It takes a few seconds to burn the booster stage.

Based on my time calcs, OP is currently flying and engaging the SA-2 at THIS VERY MOMENT!

Question.

How accurate was it dodging missles as shown in the begining of Beyond Enemy Lines?

>>8563747
Missiles hate turning. If you have a good angle, you can 'outmaneuver' a missile. But BEL is unrealistic as hell. Still a fun movie though.

>>8563747

That was total and complete theater bullshit. Missiles move at Mach 7. There's no long, extended tail-chase where the missiles are in visual range and following you around. Complete bullshit.

>>8563721

>>8563773

Cool.

Yeah I did enjoy it more than I thought, Ruthless Tracksuit Guy was awesome

>>8563776
What missile moves at Mach 7? Mach 4 at best.

>>8563785

>Ruthless Tracksuit Guy

Yeah, esp. becuase most of the movie revolved around this One Dude running around on the ground, not their complete failure at depicting air combat.

I also fucking loved that convo they had on the carrier, waiting to launch, about all the famous actors and musicians killed in plane crashes, and how they could start a successful business putting an end to that shit as competent pilots.

>>8563802

DERPDERP

my bad, you're right. cocks, disregard, etc.

>How accurate was it dodging missles as shown in the begining of Beyond Enemy Lines?
I know a guy in the military. He said that he saw the movie with some of his military friends. They were all laughing uncontrollably in the theater. Joking about how afterward the guy would return to base, and be in the locker room, and then close the locker door, and behind it ... THE MISSILE AGAIN!

>>8563721
SA-2 Shoots!

>>8563905
...AND SCORES!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLl!

Better luck next time OP.

>>8563874

>afterward the guy would return to base, and be in the locker room, and then close the locker door, and behind it ... THE MISSILE AGAIN!

I just laughed out loud, boisterously.

>>8563950
Reminded me of the Train from wrongfully accused.

http://www.123video.nl/playvideos.asp?MovieID=136090

>>8563922
Have some faith!

>>8562185

>>8562185
Alamos? Is your flanker guy planning on facing Bombers or something?

Surprised this wasn't on OPs list of planes

Would be great for taking out runways, and looks dead sexy

For all those mocking Russian tech:
A declassified document of the CIA reports that in the first day of Desert Storm, on 17 January 1991, Scott Speicher's F/A-18C was shot down by a R-40 fired from an Iraqi MiG-25.

>>8563302
Me again.

I've been reading about the Lockheed U-2.
Fuck that whole thing sounds like some ridiculous shit.

The wings create so much ground effect when it's landing that they have to chase the thing down the runway in a Ford Mustang so a guy can talk in the pilot onto the runway by eye.

The damn things fly so high, the pilots have to spend an out de-nitrogenising their blood by breathing pure oxygen, or they'll get fucked up pressure sickness. And they have to wear basically a space suit. And they have to breath canned air on the walk to the cockpit on the ground, that space shit is so intense.

And the controls are so sensitive for flying in such thin air that, down near the ground you need to be absolutely fucking hench to be able to steer the things.

That is some mad shit, yo.

DO ZSu-23s have Radar?

Bump for awesome.

>>8564329

Yes.

Yes, they do.

You know, this game sounds awesome but the fact that no rules have been posted makes me think that somewhere right now the players are in fact running around with their arms extended making aeroplane noises and yelling.

>>8564589

You say that like it's a bad thing.

>>8564607
NEEEEEE-OWMMMM

DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA

CHOOOOOOOM!

>>8564620

Every time somebody uses explosive runes in my game, we all go

BBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM

FSSHHHHH-CHOOOOO-SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

BBRRRRRRRRRTTTT

Oh great! I just read up on those little fuckers. And I must say, they seem quite mean.

With a 7km target radar, 1.5km accurate fire range, and 7km inaccurate fire capability, automatic radar aimed burst fire with HE and AP rounds in the mix, great firing arc and complete, if somewhat under-motorized mobility. These guys pack a punch.

Nothing like the cute little manually aimed ones I remember from BF Nam.

PSHAKKAKAKAKAKAKA

Bump for epicness

>>8565361
Take off those canards before you leave this house. You look like a whore.

>>8565484
But daddy, all the eurocanards are wearing them :(

>>8565546

I didn't raise my daughter to dress up like some slutty Eurofighter.

>>8565546
Be quiet and put your radar absorbing materials on, we're going to church.

>>8565615

O hi thar.

>>8565668
...

...you are not allowed to be friends with that Sukhoi girl anymore.

>>8564205
AA-10 Alamo is the most common Radar/IR -guided Air to Air missile in russian planes. that C model is the Semi-Active Radar missile. Probably took them if the MiGs get airborne.

>>8565615
Jesus, it shouldn't , but the mental image it conjured is just too fucking hot!

>>8565767
What?

>>8565668
>>8565695
You're so typically old fashioned american

All the other girls are wearing canards, even the eastern european ones

Why do we always have to be behind the times? :(

>>8565484
You say that like it's a bad thing

>>8565780
Slutty Eurofighter.
>Hi there, pilot, wanna go to my place?
Ditch that F-16, and I'll let you see my Fly-by-Wire.

Dem Swedish canards.

Look at those fucking Rafale's, sexy bitches just beg to have their air intakes polished hard.

Hey OP is it Mercenary Air Squadron you're playing? Seems to be the only RPG that might be what you're playing, just bought it from DriveThruRPG.

>>8566113
Possible, I heard them talkin about it yesterday.

HOLY SHIT I just opened the folder I just bought.

Like a orgasmic cascade of .pdf charts.

Fuck yes, I am in heaven

>>8566234
Someone's cumming aircrafts.

Have some hot night refuel over iraq.

>>8566113
Anyone know where I can download this?
Sounds and looks good from what I've seen so far...

Fighter that never came to be ;_;

$10 from DriveThruRPG

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product_info.php?products_id=51081

>>8566383
Too expensive, scan plz.

I hope this threads still here when I get back from the mcdonalds.

>>8566383
No creditcard or paypal, so a scan would be mightily appreciated

>>8566234

Rapidshare?

A scan would be awesome, just so I know what I'm getting myself into. From what I've seen it just looks like a really complex board game.

>>8566416
brb, buying it on e23 and uploading it for everyone.

>>8566514
Appreciate it, anon :)

You want to destroy some ground targets? I'm up for it bitches.

>>8566559
Go back Su, you don't even have guided muntions!

>>8566630
Or a radar...

http://rapidshare.com/files/362950783/mas.zip

here you go chaps, enjoy

Are these the rules?

Do not trick me gypsy woman. If this folder is fake I will be displeased.

>>8566556
Jesus christ, this thing comes in a huge fucking zip that's full of all sorts of shit. There's like a bazillion PDFs and two spreadsheets.

http://filesmelt.com/dl/Mercenary_Air_Squadron.zip

>>8566717
What anon said

If it's the real deal however, I'm forever in your debt

>>8566767
See
>>8566758
I'm the dude who just went and bought a copy of it just to upload it for you.

It's legit.

>>8566758
Thanks anon, looks interesting.

>>8566790
In that case, you have my gratitude

Didn't want to sound impolite ;)

>>8566758

My reaction when I bought it too. Still munching through the rules and trying not to get distracted by all the planes.

Dammit.

I read the thread, think how awesome this game sounds, and still wind up thinking about Dmitrys when I see Operation: Horse Therapy.

No more /d/ for a while.

Fuck the random starting plane generator might give you a MiG-17 to start out with. The game is set in 2015.

That's gotta smart.

>>8566911
This actually means you have to take a break from 4chan.
/tg/ is still prone to leakages from other boards.

>>8566911
You're on /d/-lite, I'm fairly sure I saw some Dymitrys yesterday here.

I know this is more like a plane-thread, but this is just irresistible.

>>8567298
Is that an ekranoplane or whatever they're called?

>>8567346
I think it is, according to the filename.

>>8566790
I don't know how I was unaware of this game until today, but thank you. This is awesome.

Merc Air Squad looks pretty good. Still gotta run through it all but so far looks good. Now all we need to do is get more aircraft and maybe get the WW2 version as well.

Has anyone archived this thread yet?

And massive thanks to the anon who uploaded MAS :)

I think its probably possible to cobble together stats for any aircraft you want with the options shown. It'd be easier if they just gave you a bigger list to choose from but meh...

If OP is using this system the GM must have spent quite a bit of time coming up with extra shit. Either that or he found expansions we haven't seen yet.

>>8568624
the system does look pretty easy to modify. Also, looking at the publishers' forum it seems there was some additional material released for download but i can't seem to find links, anyone have this?

I think we're wrong to assume they're using MAS. It seems like more of a wargame than an RPG.

>>8568780
What what? Really? Time to start digging!

>>8568870
I've been looking around since the first thread for something like what OP has so far described and MAS is the closest there is. I'm not saying its a done deal and that they HAVE to be using MAS...all i'm saying is that its more likely than anything else atm.

That said there's nothing stopping the GM from home brewing an entire system himself. I think the more likely option is using MAS as a base and home brewing a shit ton of extra stuff to take it from fuck awesome tier to god tier.

We've got so excited about this guy's game that by law it must have failed. I imagine tomorrow he'll post a report of the session and we'll see that the Mirage flamed out and crashed soon after take off, the Flanker suffered massive systems failure and crash-landed half way to the target, and the three remaining planes ended up blowing up a children's hospital.

>>8569113
Well I don't know about the flame out or systems crash but the hospital bombing does sound like something that could easily happen in Africa. Course the only target on the map they had that could possibly pass itself off as a hospital would have been the commander bunker. Still its possible I suppose.

>>8569197
If you can think of something really, really fucking bad then you can be sure it can happen in Africa, and in fact is probably happening right now.

Lol Africa.

OP again, I'm back. Mission was a success, but had it's moments. Details to follow.

>>8569535
Fuck damn back already?! Details man! DETAILS!

PREPARE YOUR F5 KEY MEN

>>8569657
F5 flight on the tarmac, engines hot, ready and waiting.

OP again,
We decided that a dawn time on target would be best. The strike guy had been reading up and figured that if they had any shifts at all, that would be prior to a fresh shift taking over, and at the end of night shift, so lowest possible awareness. We then decided how to handle the strike package. We figured that the Flanker would hang back until the SA-2 was down. I was given the mission of taking out the SA-2, while a simultaneous strike from the F-111 would take place at high speed over the runway using runway cratering bombs. Then the Mirage and the other F-4 would sweep in, taking out the ZSUs and the fuel dump, while the F-111 climbed and circled back to the bunker. Following that, we agreed we'd stick around for 5 to ten minutes maximum, looking for targets of opportunity, while the Flanker gave us overwatch, then head back to base. That was the plan anyway.

Steve handed us out aircraft data sheets, sort of like the one's in that MAS but different, there were some other things he add on them. We got to draw our weapons loadout (which was way cooler then it sounds) and Steve walked us through the basic mechanics, which, to his credit, weren't overly complicated, but I still ended up asking tons of questions druing the game.

>>8569789
yes yes go on.

OP again,
I need to set the scene here, we're sitting around a table, and Steve whips out these massive poster size papers, and lays them down in his living room, moving the tables out of the way. He's got the Google earth map printed out on four of them, and on the other he has a larger scale map, which is labeled “BVR Strategic Map”, and gives us our plane markers, which we place on the strategic map, roughly 100 miles out. We'd been coming in nose cold he told us, and said that it was now entirely up to us what happened. He then flipped on some mix cd on which he had audioslave and some other songs, but overlayed with 'radio chatter' from I'm guessing combat aircraft. I didn't think it would be cool at first, but having that in the background just took things up a notch.

I decided to go to mid altitude for my run (10000 to 280000ft) The Aardvark dove for the deck, and prepared to make a high speed run. The Flanker began to loiter, and the Mirage slipped back, still closing, but not as quick as me or the Aardvark. I closed to eighty miles, my RWR started to go off, and I made my detection roll, so I thought I was good. But then Steve put the source marker on the BVR map, and it wasn't where the SA-2 was. And in the next turn, at fifty miles out, Steve told me that not only had the source narrowed the search pattern to a track, but the source was moving.

>>8570030
why are you making me abuse my poor f5 key. It weeps for mercy

I'm pulling for you OP, hurry up!

OP again
Before the mission, we had all agreed on radio silence, and Steve said that the Aardvark could also 'see' the radar source. Which meant it must be airborne. I turned away, and jammed on my afterburners, to go faster towards the airbase. The Flanker, having also spotted the emission source, turned towards it, as well as the Mirage and F4, following behind. Then all hell broke loose, the SA-2 radar lit up, and I was told that it progressed from search to track to fire control within about ten seconds. Which meant (again, asking steve what it all meant) that most likely an SA-2 was in the air heading towards me. Steve said my backseater would be telling me all this anyways. I figured waiting would be stupid, so I dumped two AGM-78s immediately, since I was inside firing range. The bad thing, was that Steve passed me a big book of missiles, and I saw this, which I hadn't considered. The SA-2 flies at mach 3.5+, whereas my AGMs do maybe Mach 2. So there was no time for the radar to go down. I dove, and at Steve's reccomendation, started ejecting chaph.

The Flanker decided enough was enough, and turned on his radar, which meant that everyone could now see him. However, when his radar went on, the airborne radar source turned towards him, away from me. The bad news was that two new targets went on the board, one just off the runway, the other apparently 'climbing and turning' off the runway. The plan was going to shit. Luckily at this point, the Aardvark was just cresting the final small ridge, and flew a straight line down the runway, pumping off Durandals “left and right like fucking rice at a goddamn wedding' to quote the strike player. As he made his run, Steve told him that he could see dead ahead coming off the runway, a heat source, and on the runway, a moving shape, but that was it.

OP again,
That's all I can do for now, I have to go out again for supper. I'll put the rest up when I come back, sorry to make you all wait. I really appreciate how much you gyus like this, and for all the help.

Thanks for the MAS pdfs, it looks really cool.

archive plz

>pumping off Durandals “left and right like fucking rice at a goddamn wedding' to quote the strike player

Truly an image of beauty. Eagerly awaiting more

>pumping off Durandals “left and right like fucking rice at a goddamn wedding' to quote the strike player

For those who haven't looked at the publishers site yet.
errata for MAS
http://blog.vbamgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/mas_errata_1-23-08.zip
Overview and description of counters
http://blog.vbamgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/explanation.pdf
Example of play
http://blog.vbamgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/victorytrack1.pdf

>>8570457
GODFUCKINGDAMNIT!

Dammit I want that story.

OP again, just got back, writing rest of session now.

>>8572375
F5 on afterburner

OP Again
The Aardvark peeled out low, to the left, away from the climbing aircraft. I leveld out just above the ground (barely made my roll), and travelled on the worst intercept line. The SA-2 must have lost lock, because my backseater called out that he had two missile trails pass above us, a little ways back. At this point we broke radio silence, and the Aardvark called off secondaries from the radar site, so I pulled back up to sniff around again. The other F-4 and Mirage, now were turning to line up with the field, and were coming in very fast, the mirage trying to find the ZSU-s. The flanker achieved a lock and let loose to Alamos at it's target, and a few tense moments later, saw a small flash on the horizon. The target track became erratic, and then broke up, and considering that a kill, the Flanker began a quick zoom climb to try to gain altitude. The Durandal's absolutely shitkicked the runway, and also produced a large fireball, but I'll get to that.

Without warning, well, other than the radar detector screaming, two new targets popped up just as the Aardvark and I were coming in on the base, and the F-4 and Mirage were about 30 seconds out. A flurry of tracers reached out, and one of them found the F-111 briefly. I asked Steve if the remaining Harm's had a lock, and he said there were two sources, so I rattled off the last two at one of them, rewarded by one hit and secondaries. The Aardvark headed outbound to assess damage, it didn't sound good, power was down in one engine, and he was losing oil pressure fast. Then the Mirage and the Phantom came to play. The Mirage roared in, Brimstones roaring out towards the remaining ZSU like the fingers of an angry god. And they hit like a haymaker to the testicles, setting off the internal ammo and fuel, propelling the remains of the turret into the air.

OP again
The F-4 went nose hot approaching the airfield, and immediately picked up two targets, one headed towards him, the other still climbing off the departure end of the runway. There was no chance at a shot on the closing aircraft, the F-4 passed well underneath, but he did switch to AIM-9s, and Jan shouted FOX THREE and sent them both at the heat source. Again, one of them missed, but not the first one, which flew true, and scored a proximity kill, the aircraft was losing pieces of airframe and spewing tons of smoke, beginning a shallow descent. The backseater also called out with a shout that there was a destroyed MiG-17 on fire inside a five meter crater on the runway. The Mirage continued racing outbound, close to the ground.

The Flanker, having completed their climb, leveled out, and quickly called out to me that the enemy target was turning in my direction. I applied full military burner, but it was too late. Steve, acting as my backseater started shouting FLARE FLARE FLARE, and I complied. It partially saved me, along with a hard jink. However the heatseekers chasing me still detonated close to me, and my panel lit up (Steve started writing out warnings on it), slight engine problem, and my AIM-9s were reporting faults across the board, so essentially I now had no air-to-air. My backseater was shouting at me now, telling me the MiG-21 was settling in on my tail, and probably getting ready for a cannon shot.

>And they hit like a haymaker to the testicles, setting off the internal ammo and fuel, propelling the remains of the turret into the air.

>>8572707
>>8572549

You have both a gift for description and a knack for cutting off at the worst possible time. continue

I'll never know, because out of fucking nowhere, two missiles dropped at 70 degree angles down onto the MiG, the last of the Flanker's payload. The fishbed didn't have a chance, it was blown into a thousand small pieces by the heavy Alamo missiles. I figured it would be best to evaluate my situation, and the Aardvark called in saying he was down to one engine, and was climbing about 20 miles away, preparing for a higher altitude bomb run. We figured we had done it, but then two more ZSUs opened up on the Mirage. They must have seen the HARM strike, because we didn't see any radars. It showed, since they both had trouble tracking the hard maneuvering Mirage as it bore down on the airfield, launching the last Brimstones. It was almost anti-climatic, as the ATGMs slaughtered the mobile anti air guns.

However, Steve, being a dick, threw another curve ball, and told us that another SA-2 style search radar was operational, and looking for targets. It was off to the east of the base, the F-4 was already on a run at the fuel dump and couldn't correct in time, so he abandoned his run and turned slightly, and began dumping rockets at the SA-2 launch area. Unfortunately he couldn't count fireballs, but he certainly tore into the launch area, and probably bought the mirage the time it needed to make the turn, and come over the area, pickling off 1000 pounders and also sending a volley of missiles at the new radar (we later found out it was a mobile radar, parked next to the local village.) The radar truck did not survive, and the Flanker pilot, who was well within the kill zone for the SA-2 breathed a sigh of relief. After that, we did a few more strafing runs, although I didn't bother, with my semi-buggered engine. As we turned to depart, the F-111 sent a final “Fuck You” with two GBU-15s on TV guidance at the bunker complex.

>>8572857
I think you're going to need to take whoever does your intel out back and beat them with sticks. I recommend fresh-cut willow, for its springiness.

>>8572927
Seconded. They need to get their shit together.

>>8572707
Shouldn't that be Fox Two? Or did I miss a post somewhere?

We all made it home, although the Aardvark suffered multiple hydraulic failures on the return flight, and was forced to dump all remaining ordnance, and belly landed (no crash though, airframe recoverable).

Air Kills
Flanker: 1 MiG-21
F4: 1 MiG-17

Air Incidentals
Flanker: 1 J-7 (Sudanese Air Force)

Ground Kills
Aardvark: Runway, MiG-17, Command Bunker
F4: 4 SA-2 missiles, 1 Barracks
Mirage: Three ZSU-23, Fuel Dump, 1 Mobile Radar
Me: SA-2 Radar site, ZSU-23

Ground Incidentals
Mirage: 3 Houses, local food market, 2 Trucks, 1 Car, 6 bicycles

Damage Taken
Me: Minor Engine, Minor airframe
Aardvark: Major Engine, minor airframe
Mirage: Negligible control surface.

I think that's everything.

>>8572966
I'm guessing OP forgot, but you are right. IR launch is Fox two, not three.

>>8572927
>>8572944

Those. I'd also like to suggest a tube sock full of Valencia oranges.

>>8572984
>Mirage: 3 Houses, local food market, 2 Trucks, 1 Car, 6 bicycles

Ooops...

>Flanker: 1 J-7 (Sudanese Air Force)

Oh wow. Shitstorm incoming.

And yeah, the frenchies really need to sack some intelligence people. Also, I wonder if you're breaking even after that clusterfuck. The final fuckoff gift from the Aardvark was a nice way to end it, though.

>>8572984
>Mirage: 3 Houses, local food market, 2 Trucks, 1 Car, 6 bicycles

Ooops...

>Flanker: 1 J-7 (Sudanese Air Force)

Oh wow. Shitstorm incoming.

And yeah, the frenchies really need to sack some intelligence people. Also, I wonder if you're breaking even after that clusterfuck.

Way to go OP!

>>8573041
clearly the free intel info was worth every penny

>>8573096
Guess who gets to cover the repair bills? At least if they don't want an Aardvark pilot and some Hellfires paying them a personal visit.

A surgical strike conducted with a chainsaw...

Still, for a first sortie, not bad. Everyone got home in more or less one piece. All the objectives were taken out, all air defenses knockedout. Little overkill.

All in all, pretty nice OP.

>>8573153

You forgot the little detail with the not so positive collateral damage and that they just started a war with Sudan.

come on OP where are those rules?

great story btw

>>8573189
blame sudan for collateral damage
advicemerc.jpg
they cannot deny their presence in area

OP again
>>8573096
The consensus we had was that next time, we buy intel, since it's cheaper then planes. We also pitched in for the Aardvarkk guy, since he took the most damage, to help pay for repairs. My own repairs are actually fairly cheap, all things considered.

>>8573041
According to Steve, the GM, the J-7 kill doesn't really go against us. The sudanese don't know who did it, and if they investgate, they'll find it, and remains of MiGs and a destroyed airfield. Also, according to ROE, we were fine with the j-7 kill. No bonus for dropping it though.

We actually came out ahead. There were kill bonuses on doing additional damage to the airfield, and the air defenses/aircraft were all mission bonuses. Steve said we pretty much rocked the mission, despite the way shit hit the fan.

>>8573189
I'm sure France will apply a little pressure on the Sudanese. I think OP got away clean. The collateral damage made me laugh though, bicycles?

Sucks that you probably killed civilians though. Fuckin evil to put a SAM radar truck next to households.

Phantoms kicked ass!

/tg/ Knows how to pick em!

Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules Rules

we needs them

>>8573376
OP again

Steve said he is getting all this stuff together for us, I'll share when I have it.

>>8573438
Thank you. Much appreciated. Spam it when you get it.

When will you get it?

How many beers you buying the Flanker pilot oP?

I'm out for the night. Waiting on those rules, based on your description they sound awesome.

Flanker kicked ass all over the map!

>>8574516
Only because the Aardvark was a bullet magnet and OP toasted the S\am.

Post all the 40k you want.

Today /tg/ is made of awesome and win.

OP's group is awesome and they should feel awesome.

OP should have run nothing but gunpods, AGMs, and AIMs. Gunpods are for people who don't mind a little down and dirty action. Course with an F4s horrible turning radius pods wouldn't have done you much good if you'd gotten into a dog fight at low level.

>>8574804
>nothing but gunpods, AGMs, and AIMs.

As opposed to rocks and sticks?

>>8574882
Meh. He had the SAMs covered and the other guys had the rest of the ground targets covered so he could have ditched the Irons and gotten something else...like pods. ECM or extra flare dispensers would also have been a good investment...especially for future missions.

>>8574682
This is the fourth thread. OP and the others in these threads have made me regain faith in /tg/

archived.

>>8575451
linnk?

>>8575473
Bamp

So badly want those rules.

SO badly.

>>8576889
Agreed anon, let's hope Steve or the OP posts/uploads them soon

>>8563322

That game is so huge, shitloads of planes and missions...too bad most of the planes all feel the same with only differences in weapon loadouts. It's still a fun time though.

There are shitloads of mods out there for it, including some cold war mods that add nuclear weapons.

OP should just tripfag himself "OP again"

>>8577639
I've been thinking that, I think he started using it as a signature as time went on.

what game is this called?

>>8579687
"OP is a douche for not getting us the rules yet because I've been nursing a semi for 5 days now waiting for this game"

>>8579730
So basically you're in the same position as I'm in. Nursing a boner the size of an 18-wheeler for MODERN WARPLANES: THE ARR PEE GEE

>>8578946
It always stuns people when they find out just how big that gun is. Most people seem to think it doesn't go past the nose.

>>8579798
It still stuns me every time I remember/look at how big it is compared to a Volkswagen.

>>8579798

It stuns people and kills tanks. Now that's a weapon!

>>8579826
The ammo drum might be as big as your VW.

In the mean time, check out In Harm's Way: Wild Blue on /rs/. It's a mercenary air pilot RPG.

>>8579923
Thats a lot more complicated than MAS but I doubt thats what OP used. Still, an interesting find. thx anon.

Bump for life!

Where's the interest gone /tg?

>>8584785
It's gone to the same place the ability to post went.

>>8584828
Anyone else having difficulty posting these past 14 hours?

>>8584926
Yes its getting pretty hard to post for some reason

>>8584949
Is 4chan under attack?

>>8585314
perhaps by a merc squadron that thought it was hitting a hospital.

geeze what let down. Come on OP, get back in here and give us what we all want.

I want to be able to post reliably on /tg/ but apparently that isn't happening.

/tg will work itself out here in a while. just stick around.

Thats it. I'm callin it. Time of death 9:47 PST. Cause: lack of OP input and excessive time without new posts.

I'll be watching for the next one.