>>9586540
(cont)


Well things started smoothly. The three went to the Pokemon Center and were sent on an errand for the doctor at the Center. After a tutorial trainer and the party's first wild encounter (The Gulpin Trainer stabbed a pidgey and crippled it... Then caught it.) they met Professor Oak and the fourth party member. The Gulpin Trainer traded a pidgey and bidoof for a Slowpoke, and the four returned to Viridian, and the Sableye trainer met Gary Oak, the Viridian Gym leader. The trainer attempted to punch him, but Gary dodged and smacked him pretty hard in the face. The trainers decide to move on to Pewter City. After some encounters and catches in Viridian forest, they meet at the gym, and each face Brock. Brock kept them on their guard by switching up pokemon used each battle, but so far every trainer has done well in facing him. The Zubat Trainer is the only one that needs to battle him, and that will pick up next game this weekend.


The current roster:
Sableye Trainer-
- Sableye
- Squirtle
- Zangoose

Gulpin Trainer-
- Gulpin
- Shellder
- Slowpoke

Zubat Trainer-
- Zubat
- Combee
- Shinx
- Shroomish

Totodile Trainer-
- Totodile
- Mankey
- Feabas

Overall, I was amazed on how much fun everyone had with the game, even if it was only in Alpha. Mr. Stark, wherever you are, I want you to know that I, and my players, are more than eager to see the beta of P:TA completed. Already the game has proven to be one of the most fun we have played in a while!

tl;dr: Post your Pokemon: Tabletop Adventures thread.

>>gather information on pokemon via pokedex
How exactly does that work? I mean are pokedexes some kind of super artificial intelligence that is capable of instantly analize recently met pokemans?

>>9586600
The way I see it, pokedexes are able to analyze pokemon that you catch like new data into a computer. That's why you don't get any REAL info on a pokemon in the games unless you catch it.

Some of the players of the game each even drew their trainers for fun! Here is the gulpin trainer in a team rocket outfit!

>>9586807
Continuing there, here is the Zubat Trainer

>>9586827

And the Sableye trainer!

The Totodile trainer did not draw his character.

that seems pretty cool

>>9586540
awesome, my game is coming along too.

>>9587043
currently have a ace trainer with magby, a researcher with magnemite, and a ranger with ralts. just started, things are looking good.

>>9586827
Also in a team rocket outfit now!

Makes me sad that I lack a group. I would play the shit out of this game.

>>9587043
Wow! The funny thing is that we got a researcher with a magnemite coming in as well!

>>9587236
it just seems like a SCIENCE! pokemon, with it's magnetic and electric powers. Also plot is investigating the pokemon trade, the ranger and researcher are searching for a forced pedigree breeding and subsequent fighting rings in the area, ace trainers there to just be a bad mother.

>>9587311
I would say my plot, buuuuut my group is actually reading this thread, so I gotta keep it secret for now.

Link?

>>9587424
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pokemon_Tabletop_Adventures

Our upcoming magnemite researcher!

>>9587401
yeah, that lets the cat out of the bag early, as i found out once.

>>9587461
Is that a straight jacket?

>>9587499
"Quite possibly", he said.

I have the primary villains setup, but at least one of my players wants to shoot for champion, what should i do, a bracket like in the series? or perhaps the elite four then the former champ? What level of involvement should the champ have on the story?

>>9587608

Well if one is shooting for champion, a good way to pull a twist is to make the champion ominous and difficult to identify. This allows you to have the champ stroll around in public without too much media hassle, and also have the player meet the champ without even knowing him/her. It makes the reveal that much of an OH SHI- moment. Especially if you make it someone they would not expect.

As for the league, I always imagined it being tournament style, either round robin or bracket styled. The winner then gets to face the elite four, and finally the champion.

Alternatively, you can allow the party a chance to ALL win round robin style by gaining enough points in the league, and then each member faces an elite four member before getting a shot at the champ. However only one person can get a chance to become champion.

And as for the champion status itself, it is suggested that you keep your status secret to prevent constant random challengers on the street and media hassle. Along with that, I'd thing champs would get a special status, and all that make it as far as the elite four would get access to the Battle Frontier.

Just my suggestions.

>>9587739
You could even have a stand-in, fake 'champion' who's a friend of the real one.

>>9587739
thanks man, i was kinda going with a helpful figure being the big reveal as champ.

Also need some ideas for gym leaders, i currently have two ways to win at a gym, through battling or to impress the leader.

current leaders and impress conditions i have now are

Dark type: must be able to confound and misguide the opponent

ground type: Using one's brawn and stamina to muscle the opponent and use his strength against him

Water type: using the weather and water to your advantage (fought in a harbor, uses rain dance alot)

Fire type: also the beauty coordinator, must impress with stylish moves

Fighting type: Use hard work and guts to overcome

need three more leaders with three more conditions. any ideas /tg/?

Question, which of the links on the 1d4chan page should I download?

This sounds...so fucking fun! I've never even heard of it, though, 'till now.

>>9587920

Ghost: Overcoming your fears. (During the battle the trainer, if losing, might actually get hit with hypnosis and after a dream eater attack, must face their greatest fears.)

Ice: Show true compassion and love for your pokemon. ("Melting a cold heart" as they say.)

Dragon: "Let your burning heart show it's true strength." (Show the determination and the will to become the champion.)

Do you buy this to play or what?

>>9588004
You know the Dragon guy has to be totally insanely awesome.

>>9588079

>>9588004
>>9588079
that all sounds acceptable, i dig it. Thanks again guys.

Any tips for getting anyone to play this with me at the local game store? There are Pokemon Card tournaments, but I don't really know anyone who plays, and the only people I've seen playing the game are not exactly the type of people I'd like to get to know better.

>>9588265
No problem bro! Hope to hear epic tales from that game!

sounds fun1

What level did you start out as?

>>9588312
The big selling point to get the guys that play my game to play was that they had the option of being in Team motherfucking Rocket. (They have yet to do so though. Some prefer to stick as normal trainers even!) Giving options that nearly EVERYONE has been itching to try out is a great way to get them interested.

Also, offer to allow unique starters. That helps a lot.

>>9588312
Ask your normal group, or your friends?

>>9588373
All depends on the GM. Trainer wise, you tend to start at 0, while pokemon starters are at level 5.

>>9588373
you start at zero but i had my players start at one.

If I ran a game of this. I think I'd try making 150 new kinds of Pokemon. Or maybe let the PC's create their own starter.

Of course I'd have to approve it first.

>>9588395
Ah, that sounds awesome! My one time brush with D&D ended badly, and I don't go to the store too often, or even often enough to know anyone there.

Is there a closed beta or something? From the PDF I can find, it's just a description of what will be in the game. There are no rules, levels, or anything else available. How the fuck are people playing?

>>9588459
That takes a shit load of time. Why not just use the pokemon they already got out there's over 400+ of them now.

Anyhow, anyone else got any stories about the game? I'm going to try to get my group to go with me on this.

How is the stats done? Does everyone start with 10 in each stat and build on that?

>>9588514
The rules, like combat and character creation, are scattered in the archived threads, sadly, and take time to gather up. Took me a while to get the rules set up, but it was worth it in the end.

>>9588556
There is a list of base stats your pokemon can have. For every level you add two points to any stat(s), as long as they stay in order from least to greatest. Natures alter base stats by 2. So a nature bumps one stat by 2, and lowers another by 2. This changes the order of the base stats and helps you change how you want the stats to roll.

>>9588514
>>9588561
There's a Megaupload link with all that stuff.

>>9588632
Talking about the trainers.

Also, our Totodile Trainer!

>>9588714
Ahhh.

You start with Str, Con, Dex, Wis, Int, and Cha. Using a 64 point-buy system, you can add the stats wherever you like, so long as all of the stats have a minimum of 6 on each. HP is the CON score times 5.

>>9588737
Easily the most badass. Have a passing journalist take a stylish photo of him for a trainer magazine. Have the journalist ignore everyone else.

>>9588819
I see. Didn't see that in the Megaupload.

So is there any rules for a Pokemon Ranger from using both capture stylist and pokeballs?

>>9588882
He can do both just fine.

WHY DO NONE OF YOUR PLAYERS HAVE A MAREEP

>>9588952
Fuck yes, you were my favourite Electric type (until Shinx).

>>9588962
Why was Shinx so fucking slow?!

Hmm
Since I'd imagine people would object to me starting with a Beldum, I guess I might go with Magnemite because fuck yeah Magnezone

I still can't find a group for this game. Feels bad man.

>>9589010
I'd play online.

>>9589032
I'm trying..I don't know which sites host groups.

ALSO WHY DO NONE OF YOUR PLAYERS HAVE A STARLY

THEY ARE COLD-BLOODED KILLERS AS THEY EVOLVE

oh god what

>>9589072
too easy to catch in the wild to choose as a starter

Gulpin is rather awesome

>>9589088

Why...?

I would totally run this game. In fact, if someone can get me the rules, I will. Via IRC, of course, but so it is.

This summer I want to get my friends into roleplaying games, so i can play with people in person. Other than running a LOTR rpg, I was thinking about pokemon: tabletop adventures. Is the beta coming out soon, or is there a place where all the various rules that have been released have been compiled? The alpha pdf doesn't have much, and I'm not a good enough GM to fill in the rest.

>>9589000
>Shinx
>slow
It was like average speed, at worst.

>>9589218
Yeah, but electric types are normally insanely fast.

>>9589191
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Pokemon_Tabletop_Adventures

Would love to join in, but EXAMSEXAMSEXAMS.

>>9589224
I direct you to >>9588952.

So... how do you play anyway?

Is it d20 or something else?

And how do you level up your trainers or such? How does character creation work?

>>9589237

Sup/tg/'s IRC server. In #darkheresyooc. When you can, or anyone can, I run my games out of there. And I will run me some fucking POKEMON.

so, anyone do an engineer yet? any tales of whacky vehicles?

>>9589191
Would very much like to join.

>>9589088

OHFUCKOHFUCKOHFUCK

>>9589088
I am weeping right now.

>>9589088
MOAR OF THIS OHMYGAWD

id totally play this online with someone, does anyone wanna run it though?

>>9589088
TZEENTCH! STOP SCREWING THEM UP BEFORE THEY CAN TEAR EACH OTHERS' HEADS OFF!

I'm running my first session of this game tonight. Anyone have any suggestions on finding items, because it just isn't pokemon without finding random crap on the ground.

>>9590387
1 nugget.

Potions and shit? Depends on your mon level.

Is someone running pokemon or not?

Apparently lots of people are running pokemon.

To those asking, yes, this is d20 derived, all the rules can be found in the megaupload link on 1d4chan spread over a bunch of word docs, the PDF is useless and outdated and should really be taken down, we don't have a date for when the beta is coming out other than "Pretty soon" and yes there are a few games going on.

You're welcome.

Has anyone tried to apply any genre variations onto PTA. I'm really curious as to how a Pokemon War game or a Fantasy Pokemon game, or a Pokemon western would work out.

>>9590604

Currently all of their pokemon are level 5, I'm just trying to figure out a good rate of providing them shiny toys though.

>>9591886
Well, don't go too crazy. Remember that some classes have specific feats that let them find shit. I think it's mostly the researcher classes.

are there any online games that are looking for a player :D?

>>9591882
There've been a few threads that explored stuff like that. Some of them might even be archived on sup/tg/.

My favorite was Pokemon set in Nazi Germany. A team of Americans stranded behind enemy lines have to liberate eight pokemon-type themed POW camps, before escaping back to allied territory.

There was a large emphasis and encouragement to use and buff up your rifle alongside your pokemon, even though against most pokemon your rifle ain't gonna do shit.

SO MUCH FUN.

It makes me happy to see threads such as there.

bump

>>9593103
Skark! Glad to see you here!

ffffffffffffff I wanna play this so badly.

Hey Stark, is there an ETA on the beta more definite than 'summer'?

>>9593363
Nope.

>>9593394
Ah well. Thanks anyway.

So in honor of the game I was thinking we should come up with some gym leaders that might work for your particular setting.

One I was thinking of would be a woman named Metilina. A steel type gym leader who has a Steelix, Aggron, Metang and a Skarmory. She's have this real cog/clockwork design going for her. With a hoopkirt that had a cog like design at the base and cog shaped earnings.

Another could be a Gym that's also the Pokemon center and the leader is the Nurse Joy of the city.

>>9593523

>Another could be a Gym that's also the Pokemon center and the leader is the Nurse Joy of the city.

But then where would you go when you're defeated? Right back in front of the gym lea-what?

bump?

>>9593523


I am actually intending on using a dragon user as a gym leader, and making the most charismatic badass of the eight, encouraging you to fight on with sheer will and determination, yet showing no mercy n the process. If he is about to win, he will ask a question before giving the finishing blow.

"Tell me, boy: what has helped you get this far?"

Bump for finding a game!

Bump for more stories.

why isnt their a bug catcher class?
thats what id want to play as
fuck yes metapod!

>>9593791
If I was on the receiving end, I'd probably say something along the lines of "being too stupid not to realise when I'm in an impossible situation."

>>9595010
why is there any classes?
because OP is fucking retarded and thinks classes are a good idea.

>>9595010
>Implying there is no Bug Catcher Class
>Ace Trainer
>Advanced Class: Type Ace > Bug Ace

>>9595010
Bug catcher is so easy and you can do it in multiple ways.

>>9595010
I wish these would be the new starters. That grass pokemon is god tier.

>>9595101
>Has never heard of the P:TA system that has been made over the past few years.

>>9595010
I still wish that bird was an actual Pokemon.

>>9595159
Well, hope Black and White has a Flying/Grass starter.

Can anyone describe how the Arms Feature works?

>>9595010
>>9595159
>>9595139
And here I was getting my hopes up. Those look awesome.

Sauce if possible please?

>>9595413
It is fan art from deviantart.

>>9595370
On a previous thread, stark said it just becomes your damage with a weapon.

Stark, how do the Empath, Influential, Clairsentient, and Hex Maniac subclasses work?

How do you calculate stat modifiers? Is it the same as in D&D, where modifer = (stat-10)/2?

>>9595690
What do you mean? You get the class and then take features as you level up.

>>9595891
Each point under 10, -1 mod, each 2 points over 10, +1 mod.

>>9595935
So yeah. Thanks!

What kind of trainer would Batman be?

pkmntrainersuperheroes.jpg here, there's one picture of Bats/Supes/WW as trainers I seem not to have.

>>9596104

Researcher obviously, and scientist for all that item creation, and petrologist, maybe?

I'm a rpg newbie (only played a game of dnd 4 e. that lasted like 2 sessions.) but I've been seeing these Pokemon tta threads and I am SO interested. Please post if an online campaign gets together.

>>9596378
I am also interested in playing this Game any online groups looking for players?

>>9596104
Ace Trainer/Martial Artist/Black Belt

Because he's that good.

>>9595891
For every two stats above ten you get one point of modifier.
For every one stat below ten you get -1 point of modifier.

>>9595010
Fun fact:

Using Breeder features, you can force your metapod to learn attacks other than harden.
You can also breed so that the babies get some stat bonuses.

Essentially you can actually raise a team of six metapods and actually have a kind of workable team. Or six Magikarp.

>>9596737
To elaborate: TMs are needles. A Breeder can teach ANY move to a pokemon that can't normally use the TM if they have a TM of it (METAPOD used HYPER BEAM) or if they don't have a TM, can teach them the TM move if it can normally be used on them.

Would anyone like me to post the first draft of the extremely fan-made "Paladin" advanced class I started in an earlier thread?

>>9593523
For the WWII setting, each "Gym leader" is actually a German officer in charge of a different POW camp which must be liberated. You can, of course, liberate the prisoners without alerting the guards and get away scott free, but to get his dogtag (Badge, and the signifier of another level-up for the party) you have to successfully assassinate the officer to cut off the head of the german forces in the area.

I don't know german, so I can't come up with any German puns, but I did daydream a Flying-type encampment that has constant patrols from the air, so if you approach the camp without taking steps to conceal yourself you'll be spotted by the flying border patrols and forced to either fight or flee.

The Officer would have a Skarmory and a Honchkrow, and if you don't take care, he'll get on the back of the Skarmory before you can get him and force you to fight his other five pokemon, as well as waves of soldiers and the soldier's pokemon (Which you don't want to do. because you'll probably die.)

>>9596938
Sure.

>>9597212
http://rapidshare.com/files/383249430/Paladin_Features_by_Dotdotdot.docx.html

Here you go. Non-playtested, not particularly edited, incomplete fluff, and probably either broken or underpowered, but here it is.

tl;dr: It's an extra Advanced class for the Ranger basic class. Essentially, the trainer swears himself to one of the legendary pokemon, and gains their divine favor. Your main gimmick is that any helpers you pick up through your Ranger feats have four attacks revealed to you, which you can order the pokemon to launch (which is normally impossible for Rangers except with the Companion).

Their other gimmick is that they get a couple feats that reflect whatever legendary they roll with including a Divine Blessing wildcard feat, and "True Divine Avatar" which essentially turns your companion into a mini-me version of the legendary.

Opinions are appreciated, I think this trainer class + one of the more overpowered or Evil legendaries would make an excellent instant BBEG.

Pic related, because you can swear yourself to Missingno (At a steep penalty)

>>9597393
>Skips to the Missingno feats
>The power to Duplicate Items.

Haha, that's pretty cleve...

>If you use this too much your character will be deleted forever without a saving throw.

Holy shit

>>9597549

Interesting way to take down a Missingno paladin BBEG though: force him to use his powers as much as possible, and get himself permanently erased by his patron.

Bumping with Shedinja.

>>9597715
>Implying Missingno doesn't have a hundred or more disciples under his seductive thrall.

>>9597549
>>9597715
It's not a bad skill at all, though, especially if you wait for the right item to come along before you start using it. If I understand corrected, the first use of the skill doesn't subtract from your "Deleted forever" countdown.

So, in essence, if you wait for the right moment, that's 1d4 free master balls at no penalty unless you get greedy.

>>9597393
The Cryptozoologist class already has the ability to swear fealty though.

h t t P :// Àt .k ì M m ó À . S E /

>>9597819
So will a couple of the Mystic classes. Cryptozoologist = Researcher with Legendary focus. Paladin = Ranger with Legendary focus. Godspeaker = Mystic with Legendary focus. It's still a different enough class with a different enough party role to justify itself.

Bump for finding a game via irc

>>9597873
Yeah... but.
Rangers... swearing to gods? I guess.
Weird. Homebrew adding to homebrew. Whatever.

>>9598576

Shit I'm late.

So, what kind of features would people like to see for a Team Grunt class?

I think I finished the snaggem advanced class, but I still need features for Team Grunt, and the other advanced classes.

So what features would you guys like?

>>9599057
FUCK TEAM GRUNT CLASS. IT'S THE STUPIDEST IDEA IN ALL OF THESE THREADS.
Post more info on Snaggem Class.

>>9599057
What's the difference between the Snaggem and the Grunt?

>>9599146
Well, I'm not at my computer at the moment, so this is all off of the top of my head, but the snaggem class is an advanced class of the team grunt class.

Snagging a pokemon causes extreme mental trauma, turning it into a shadow pokemon.

Shadow pokemon usually end up being more dangerous to themselves then to others, but it is fairly easy to purify them.

However, they cannot be purified near their original owners, and will become even worse when near them, so stealing a teamates pokemon ends up causing more harm then good, with a pokemon so damaged it will likely never recover.

This is to stop those assholes in the group who would steal all the partys pokemon, just because they can.

>>9599315
Snagger is an advanced class of the team grunt.

>>9599057
>>9599332
What exactly can the grunt do now? I assume by virtue of being a grunt they are part of a team of some sort and have connections in the world. Maybe something to reflect that?

Maybe have some advanced stuff be executive or some such.

>>9586539
H + + p : / /á T . K | MM ó Á . s E /

Well probably give the Grunt capabilities suited towards stealing Pokemon even if they're owned by others. Give them bonus damage using trainer attacks against Pokemon. Maybe they can even call for support.

The Executive should probably be similar to the Ace Trainer in boosting their Pokemon's capabilities.

>>9599585
>>9599480
Also strange contraptions...They need them.

>>9597873
Fair enough, especially now I've actually read the class.

Halfwing, I want you to understand beforehand that I am in no way against any players making homebrew classes. I encourage this and hope to see several new things that my team would have never thought of. My aim here is to understand your take on the Snagger class. I'm playing devil's advocate. The reason being, during the Mystic update, all existing classes will get one or two new Advanced Classes. After the last few threads we've decided upon reworking the old "Snagger" that was originally an Advanced Class of the Capture Specialist.

In order to make sure we are working towards different ends, I'd like to know more about the intentions behind someone who is your version of the Snagger. You see, I intend to make a Snagger available to good natured trainers. I believe that given any class, you may RP them as bad or good.

A Ranger can abusively call pokemon towards them, but if they are also a Chaser, or a Chaser is on the team, the Ranger suddenly has a way around their rules and can trick innocent pokemon into becoming their tools. Good or evil.

This 'Grunt' Class can have uses for the evil RPing group, don't get me wrong, I'm sure some may have fun with the Class you are making, but it seems to limit the freedom that other classes have: The option to do good OR bad.

That said, the Snagger is pretty much what I've mentioned before in previous threads. We're retouching it so anyone can use it as an Advanced class of the Capture Specialist. What is different about your own?

Comment on Missigno's True Divine Avatar:

Not remembering your companion would both make a lot more sense and be infinitely creepier, I think.

>>9587608
As a suggestion; here's how I handle my Pokemon league championships:
Place players in separate brackets. Eventually, it'll be the bunch of them at top four (hopefully). Only the winner of that gets to fight the elite four. Beat them, and that player IS a pokemon league Champion. A Champion they fight afterwards is only for exhibition. They shouldn't lose the right to be a champion, just because they lost to a previous one, it's a huge let down.

Another way I've seen suggested is to have players make it to the top four, and round robin from there, the winner getting to fight the elite four etc.

Find what works best for you.

Quagsire is the best Pokemon of all time.

>>9599842
You're wrong.

>>9599883
Yes, yes he is. Pic related is best.

>>9599883
>>9599842
Neither of those is Xatu.

>>9599633
I really need a new name for the team grunt. The basic idea is that, while most of the rocket grunts you fight are this class, but it is not limited to them.

Instead, the grunt is someone who, on their own, are extremely weak, and no threat. However, they have trained specifically in fighting as a team, ganging up on the enemy.

Snaggers are able to take this aa step farther by fighting with pokemon that aren't even their own, and are little more then mindless killing machines. You can play as a ruthless player like Silver, stealing any pokemon that could further there goals, or a heroic character like wes or... that other guy... who only captures pokemon who are abused/ already stolen.

>>9599923
Try again.

>>9599929
Thats a weird way to spell Unown

>>9599996
Is that like french for Magnemite?

>>9599633
That sounds...more appropriate really. Otherwise the "villain" class is merely a hodgepodge of all of the others. Quite frankyl, the Grunt could be considered a separate Basic Class with the addition that it can act as a pre-req for any of the evil classes or that it's needed alongside the non-Grunt pre-req class.

Ace -> Executive seems pretty fair to say, though Exec may belong solely to the Grunt instead.

An evil Coordinator may excel at scaring or intimidating opponents to either running away, freezing up or wildly attacking. Or the Investor gets an expansion...

Martial Artist and Psychic both seem to be naturally inclined to go either way. Alternatively, the Martial Artist can become a Thug and excel at personally damaging other Trainers or Pokemon. Hex Maniac or Influential seem already fit for the Psychic.

Breeder and Researcher can also be flavored to go either way.

>>9599930
Well, having read that I think we are working towards different things. I just don't want to release the Snagger in the Mystic update and have it look too similar.

That said, I agree that a change in name would repel a lot of the negative stigma the 'Grunt' class seems to receive. As it stands, when a pokemon player sees it there is no way their mind would not immediately go to those 'bad guys'.

>>9599930
>Instead, the grunt is someone who, on their own, are extremely weak, and no threat. However, they have trained specifically in fighting as a team, ganging up on the enemy.
That is every single other class.

> are little more then mindless killing machines.
Makable with every other class.

I'm with Stark with this. You need to seriously make a way for Grunt to define itself as an ENTIRELY separate class. Otherwise, you're better off not adding it to an already massive batch of trainer options.

>>9600041
I did think about that, however, that seems to sperate it into "Good guys have to play this, bad guys have to play this" which would make it annoying for playing someone like Wes or Silver, bad guys who turn good. Or someone like Michael, who uses underhanded tactics and steals pokemon, in order to give them better lives and fulfill noble goals.

>>9599842
>>9599923
>>9599929
>>9599983
>>9599996
>>9600018
Ladies, please. We all know who the real Pokemon of the year, all years, is: Pic related.

>>9600174
Maybe being a "Grunt" should just be a universal feat called "Team Membership" or something.

>>9600195
You're also wrong. Pic related.

>>9600195
Looks like you uploaded the wrong pic.

>>9600198
Oh. That could work.
Make a feat that is not a 'Class' feat - so it wouldn't take up one of the three class slots. Then, make Classes that branch off of it.

If someone is or is going to run this online, I'd love to give it a try.

>>9600264
You and everyone else here.

>>9600264
I hate to ask, but are you the same person who has been desperately asking throughout this entire thread?
If so, sorry bro. So, so, sorry.

>>9600147
There are other classes that benifit in fighting in a group as opposed to 1 on 1? I didn't know that.

As for the mindless killing machines, that is not the normal "Okay go attack the enemy" kind of pokemon. That is the kind of pokemon that is just as likely to kill its trainer as it is to fight.

>>9600292
Not him but a guy interested so I would guess it is is several people.

>>9600306
Researcher: Basically a warlord.
Ranger: Yeah, he'll need backup. He can't capture/restrain everything by himself.
Capture specialist: Gonna need some teammates making sure he doesn't get destroyed since, even though he has a bunch of pokemon they're all under leveled.
Psychic: Whoops, no HP.
Martial Artist: Whoops, no range.
Coordinator: Do I really have to explain why this class needs teammates?

EVERY CLASS needs teammates. Even if it is just another of the same class. What is it about Grunts that their 'needing backup' makes them different?

>>9600292
nah, those weren't mine. Just puttin it out there

>>9600306
>Just as likely to kill its trainer as it is to fight.
>Implying this is only in your class.
>Implying high leveled pokemon caught in the wild, or mothers torn from their children are bffs with whatever catches them.

>>9600243
I think the problem is that everyone automatically assumes that if you take this class, you are automatically a member of the local Team, or that if you are a member, that you are automatically this class.

That is not the case, hence the need to rename the class.

>>9600282
So uh this is the first of these threads I've seen, and I've only skimmed this one. I plan to read it all in a second but before I do I am curious. What exactly does one need to run a game of this? I've never ran a game of anything before but I do have free time and patience...

>>9600383
They specifically grant and receive bonuses for coordinating with allies?

>>9600429
See Coordinator's granting of Abilities.
See Breeder's Pushing.
See Researcher's Game Plan.
See Ranger's Detective and Captain, who can call for back up.

Do you even ask yourself your questions before you try to ask them in your posts?

>>9600361
I know I asked at least once myself.

>>9600427
Rules that are released are in pieces. Alpha. Sorry.
Other then that, some dice. Some paper and pencil. A laptop to refer to what it available online. It's hard for me to run the game and I have all the material, but /tg/ seems to be fine already.

>>9600426
Because the default classes are so broad, there's not much room for a Grunt class. I don't see any specialties other than summoning other Grunt trainers. Maybe Grunts get a special stipend like Jessie and James get.

Organization Member as a class name instead maybe so that potential non-villainous branches could be like Officer (Law enforcement) or Businessman (probably too much like the investor) or Organization Official (expanded bonuses to the Org. Member feats and the ability to boss them around)

Psychic/Researcher/Professor... Professor Mindblast.

>>9600470
Of course I do! Didn't read the game yet though, heh.

Nonetheless, no reason one class can't specialize in synergy more than other classes. Stronger, more options, flexible, whatever. Just throwing ideas out there.

>>9600383
That is not the same thing. Not even close.

That is team synergy, having one classes strengths make up for anothers weaknesses. This is a trainer who, when alone, is unable to fight, but gains strength near his friends/allys. His pokemon actually grow in power while near his teamates, not just letting his teamates take care of what he can't.

As for the Shadow pokemon... I'm guessing you have never played the colloseum games. These are pokemon so mentally scared that they are little more then weapons at this point. It doesn't attck you because you took it from its family, or because it doesn't respect you, or because it you are mean to it. It attacks you because at this point it is no longer a living, thinking animal. It is a killing machine with no emotion, unable to do anything BUT kill whatever is standing in front of it.

>>9600501
Then you me and that other guy should try and get a game going.

>>9600582
Hahaha. No problem. I forget sometimes that this is a homebrew project, and it's information is not very well spread.

>>9600618
That other guy is in.

>>9600618
Different anon here. I'd totally be in too since I don't think any of my IRL friends are interested.

>>9600606
Sounds like an evil class to me. Back to the original argument then, aren't we? What makes this class viable to be used by a good guy and not only bad guys?

Whoop! Glad my thread is still rolling!

Anywho I JUST got out of DMing a solo game with the Sableye player online a second ago. To make things short: He, along with an select few pissed wild pokemon, took on a level 75+ Garchomp that somehow (Has to do with story) ended up on Mt. Moon. He earlier wanted to gather the masses at Pewter City, but most, save for Brock, were much too frightened to take it on. Hell the majority of the wild pokemon were too terrified to attack it. With an army of clefairy doing metronome, the mountain ended up with a hole being blown into it, all the pokemon save for one, and Brock getting knocked out, and the player even getting his guts slashed open by the Garchomp. But in the very end the wild pokemon once too terrified went in and ganged up on the dragon type, saving the player's life as his vision faded to black...

He eventually woke up in a hospital, and is slowly recovering. Needless to say, the balls to stand up to a 75+ Garchomp while he was only level 3 got him a level up as a trainer.

>>9600618
Xatufag here.

I'm in, especially if you're playing over IRC.

>>9600704
Oh wait, it was me you quoted, not the guy who was thinking of running it.

Ahaha, whoops?

>>9600648
Caught a couple threads, just haven't had time to sit down and actually read the thing. But I still know enough about d20 and game design to know what methods work though. A teammate centric class is a different enough idea from the others and should be able to build into other related paths fine.

>>9600694
Well done. That is exactly how spontaneous levels should be awarded. Did you see my suggestion regarding how to handle the pokemon league championships? >>9599828

>>9600704
>>9600670
>>9600651

So thats four of us.

A decent number for a group. So we should probably stop cluttering the thread emails/messenger programs?

>>9600682
That doesn't sound like an evil class to me. It sounds more like a Buff class. A Class suited for playing with a party, and always being a team player.

>>9600682
Well, Snagging it is what makes it turn into a shadow pokemon.

So snagging a pokemon turns it into a shadow pokemon, however, when snagging a pokemon, you take a huge penalty to the capture.

This penalty and effects does not apply when snagging a shadow pokemon, and you are entirely capable of purifying them. Doing so is basically rescuing abused pokemon.

Hell, there is no doubt this class "should" be evil. But every time it has showed up in the games, it has ALWAYS been a good guy.

>>9600670
Btw, this is me.

>>9600768
I've AIM and IRC.

>>9600800
And this is me with my trip on because the Chrome extension doesn't auto input into the name field.

>>9600811
I've got those too. Also Windows Live Messenger and Skype

Oh you people always start a group as I'm going to sleep. Gotta check tomorrow if people more in this timezone are gonna run a game online.

>>9600857
>>9600818
>>9600811
AIM and Skype for me. So one of those two?

>>9600785
I have a question relevant to the mechanics, since I think for any class, flavor should matter second compared to "does this work correctly without breaking anything y/n?"

What are the requirements for your Grunt class?
What does their stat bonuses/penalties look like?
What are some of the Advanced Classes' prerequisites?

>>9600895
I've AIM and IRC, so AIM seems like the best bet.

>>9600785
That seems almost like a Ranger prestige class.

>>9600895
AIM seems to make the most sense. My screen name is tokunagasmash.

For those starting a group, it tends to work best if you congregate in an IRC room somewhere and hammer out the logistics before tossing around contact info.

AIM is in email field

>>9600785
It's like everything that justifies something, is redundant because of an existing class. Sounds like an Advanced Ranger to me.

Also: Executive? Why? Anyone can be an executive.

AIM name is in the email.

>>9600901
Pretty much the same as other classes. -2 to one stat and +1 to two stats and 2 features. Their pokemon get stat bonuses when fighting in a group.

For the Snagger advanced class, they require a certain cha, and require the purchase of a snagem device.

Other advanced classes I'm still working on.

May as well...

>>9600762
Yep! I intend to use the suggestions. I used the suggestions that you made for gyms a few threads back as well. It made Brock look less like a easy win and more a challenge, especially when he whooped some trainer ass with the surprising use of a Shuckle and Probopass in the gym battles. (Since they were challenging him in a row, he switched one pokemon every match to keep the battle refreshing and challenging. The Sableye trainer did NOT expect a Probopass and a Kabuto, to say the least.) All the trainers still won though, even though there were some VERY close battles.

So stark, one last question before I go to sleep.

In one of the other threads I mentioned an idea for a capture specialist advanced class (before you settled on Snagger) that focused on using Seals to weaponize their pokeballs and alter the battlefield.

What did you think of that? Most people seem to REALLY dislike this whole team grunt thing, so I might just scrap it and do something else.

>>9601155
I think the grunt thing would be something players aren't, since players don't tend to enjoy being useless alone.

Have any of you IRC roleplayers tried Skype before? It's slightly harder to set up since you gotta get good connections and host calls, but it is far more streamlined and immersive for those that prefer acting over text.

Hey, it's how I rp. Although you gotta make sure you have honest players...

>>9600768

I've IRC and can download/sign-up for any IM client.

Oh bugger, I hope there's still player slots tomorrow.

>>9601292
Get AIM really quickly (there are web-based clients, so all you have to do is sign up, no download) and post the screenname here or IM tokunagasmash.

We're looking at sometime Thursday evenings EST.

>>9601418
Mind if I pop in to have a look?

>>9601155
>Seals for and advanced class
I think it's an interesting take on something that most players seem to forget exist. If you can complicate the class without making every feat 'seal X does Y', I'm sure someone will give it a try eventually.

As for the dislike your homebrew class is getting: Don't take it too hard. Take it as constructive criticism. Early threads for this game, before they even began getting archived, were basically just me getting stomped on by /tg/ saying what a stupid idea this all was. Don't scrap the thing; just carefully look at what they would want to see in your class. Granted, a lot of them seem to be saying they don't want the class at all, but the biggest thing other then that is that they want a new class to be able to define itself from the rest of the 9 classes we've already set up. Not an easy feat, but doable.

Also, just because certain people will never try it don't just throw it away. I'm not going to lie and say I think it's a great class idea, because it looks like it still needs a lot of tweaking for it to be its own unique set of tricks, but if you put time into it, you might as well post it in it's own thing in the future. Maybe someone will take a look. You never know, that person might be looking for whatever you make. Besides, the first I heard of your homebrew class was what, last week? It's not going to be good in that short of a time. If you really like it, follow through with it.

If I stopped just because the first few posts in my original threads were "Sounds stupid" or "Go back to /v/" this project wouldn't be where it is now.

>>9601418
Define "Evenings EST"
Like, 6pm or like running into the wee hours?
Fuck it, aim name in email, going to sleep.

>>9601509
Derp, must get more sleep.

>>9601501
Dr. Mr. Stark: Total /tg/ bro.

Gary_Eraklin of sup/tg/'s IRC server, room #Pokemonooc will run a game when he gets players. Will make another thread for this if even a single person shows up. Will take four players.

>>9601497
Not at all!

>>9601501
Good on ya for sticking with it. I love it so far, and evidently so do a lot more fa/tg/uys.

>>9601501
Point taken. But I will probably set it aside for now, and wait for beta so I can playtest it with my group.

Even then, the seal advanced class would probably be better to start with, get a hang of playtesting and balancing before jumping into it head first.

>>9601501
I was one of those people who told you it was a stupid idea.
I don't think so anymore. Keep it up, Stark.

>>9601501
That does it.
I'M MAKING MY LAST AIRBENDER HOMEBREW /tg/!
AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!

>>9601753
I support this

You guys sure have been at this for ages. What was so wrong with running pokemon via BESM though? Or Mutants and Masterminds, which I believe had a supplement dealing with pokemon style games.

>>9601501

BRB, making a Harry Potter homebrew, and fuck all you negativefags.

>>9601753
Only if it's good.

>>9601753
OH GOD THE USE OF POKEMON AS A JUSTIFICATION HAS CAUSED A JUVENILE HOBBY CASCADE

THESE EMBARRASSING CHILDISH BULLSHIT READINGS ARE OFF THE CHART

>>9601753
DO IT, FAGGOT
IF IT SUCKS I WILL BEND YOUR PENIS OUT OF SHAPE.

>>9601829
You say that like it's a bad thing.

>>9601803
It takes a shit load of time to create a balanced M&M or BDSM character, a shit more to create pokemon.

>>9601859
>Balanced BDSM character

>>9601859
BDSM? I don't think bondage is a tabletop RPG...

>>9601803
I tried it. Keeping track of +6 PCs per player sucks for the GM. I didn't like that since I normally GM/DM. This system's first goal was to streamline pokemon into an extension of the Trainer. As a GM, I appreciate the simplicity even though there are several bodies on the field at any given time.

>>9601810
>>9601753
Ha.
I didn't expect what I said to inspire those who have wanted to make their own homebrews. Good luck to you guys. It's quite a time consuming endeavor.

>>9601953
>>9601937
BESM*

>>9601753
>Wants to create Last Airbender homebrew
>Pokemon: Tabletop Adventures: Psychic
>Air Adept, Rain Maker, Earth Shaker, Firebreather
Please tell me I'm not the only who noticed this.

>>9601753
HERE COMES ANIMORPHS RULES FOR d20 MODERN.

I''ve also been tooling with a homebrew campaign as well, interpreting the rules as best as I could in their current state.

What I've tooled around with is having the trainers start with a 10 in all of their stats, to basically have the feel of a "normal person" beginning their trainer career. By level 7 they'll have their first actual class. Currently there's enough "feats" without prerequisites to support this, even though it may be six or seven. They're feats early trainers should have nonetheless.

I have a feeling this thread MIGHT need to be archived.

>>9602078
Sounds boring. Nothing for 7 levels.

>>9601501
Stark, I'm totally taking your system, and refluffing it to work for Digimon.
Ember = Pepper Breath. Let's roll.

>>9602151

They want to run it as close to the first season of the anime and pokemon red/blue as possible. Watch ash the first 70 episodes. The dude doesn't even win his first gym battle, he's given his badge because he made brock have an emotional thought that wasn't "fuck everything with tits that moves."

I'm sorry it sounds boring to the power gamers. They're power gamers themselves, but hey. Pokemon's about striving to be the best trainer. At age 10 each person can get their first pokemon to begin their training career.

Sounds geeky, sorry. Was watching the first 20 episodes yesterday and today to get a feel of what they want.

>>9602173
Oh snap! Pokemon's Arch nemesis!

>>9602078
Give them a few more stat points to put where they want, it'll have them start to specialize even before they take up classes. The system's set up that you can take a class as early as level 3.

>>9602204
You shouldn't follow the anime seriously, Ash defeated a rock pokemon with electricity. Red/Blue by the time you reached the gym with the right pokemon you can breeze through the first three gyms.

Well /tg/, it was nice chatting. It's always nice.

Until next time. Night.

I was thinking: How would Gym Leader do as an Advanced Class with Type Ace a prerequisite, rather than just a long, complicated feature available for Type Aces?

>>9602297
Yeah, but you want tabletop to run in such a way that a trainer could go to any gym first potentially. Catching a ferry south to Cinnabar if they wanted. Each gym should be a challenge.

>>9602297

It's what they want. So what they want, they'll get. Yes, electricity defeated the Onyx. But Ash literally tortured his Pikachu to do so. So if they want to hook their pokemon up to a water wheel while they themselves run on said waterwheel for several hours to generate lethal voltages, more power to em. I'll allow it.

>>9602297

The game has a feat for the shit Ash did. It's called Aim for the Horn!

>>9602319
Do whatever man. I think this game cares less about the rules being set in stone and more about the game being fun for the players.

>>9602329
Still it took anime physics to accomplish it, whens the last time you seen rock conduct electricity?

>>9602372

If we're throwing real world logic into a fantasy game, it's been proven that rocks have the potential to generate electricity. For instance, Graphite.

Lets not forget that metal comes from ore, which are contained in rocks.

Hey guys, not to rain on your parade, but rock takes normal damage from electric attacks. Onix, however, is rock/ground, and ground is immune.

http://www.serebii.net/games/type.shtml

>>9602444

Yet if a player of mine is willing to torture their pikachu to be able to inflict damage to it, I'll totally allow it.

But since Pikachu isn't one of the starting pokemon in this homebrew, the point's moot. I was simply using the anime as an example on how one could get around immunities if they went to the extreme.

Aaaaaaaaaaaand Starks gone.
Yep. Seems to be the case, that if I show up Stark has left.
Sweet.

>>9602173
BTW, this is totally a plausible idea if not for the Digivolution mechanic needing to be made and all of the classes needing to be scrapped. Also, Pokemon types don't apply here, just regular real world shit.

>>9602623
You know what might be fun?

Shin Megami Tensei homebrew from this.

The Manga is far better source of inspiration. They deal with things more reasonably and the protagonist is not retarded,

>>9602651
Someone's already refluffing it for this.
This project is what /tg/ should be about.
Not pokemon in particular; but getting shit done for the sake of having fun.

>>9602652
Stark has said that he draws inspiration from here more often than the anime.

TM Smith: Pusher Feature
Prerequsites: Pusher, TM Maker
Daily
Target: Items.
Effect: Pay 1500, roll 1d20 and add your WIS modifier. If the total exceeds 20, chose a Move that isn’t on the TM list that one of your pokemon can perform. You create a TM with that Move. Give it any number above 101. You may not create a TM with the same Move more than once with this Feature.

What Pokemon can learn the TM you create?

What if you choose Sketch?

What if you make Sketch an HM?

>>9602714
>What if you choose Sketch?
>What if you make Sketch an HM?
I can see a lot of people fucking over a lot more people if this ever happened.

...I love the smell of chaos so early in the morning.

>>9602714
I think you need to use it together with Elemental Unlock.

>>9602714
Well, sure Sketch can be made like that. It'll take some time to get to but it's possible.

HM 666 - Sketch would be a plot device worthy of being a macguffin.

>>9602849
>HM Sketch all over the place.
>Sketch Transform.

It's a good thing Stark has /tg/ to break the shit out of his game so it can be properly balanced.

Fuck it, let's teach Shuckle how to sketch Cosmic Power.

>Steel Ace Shuckle, Rock/Steel type
>Gain 4x weakness to ground, gain a shitton of resistances and immunity to poison
>Teach it to sketch Magnet Rise
>Teach it to Sketch Cosmic Power
>Uber tank with immunity to poison and access to Rest
>??????

>>9603055
LET'S WRASSLE!

>>9603255

>Toxic

>>9603295
If you insist.

Also, fixed damage moves.

Funny how Machamp counters all the broken shit.

What counters Machamp?

inb4 any psychic

I appear to have come in after Stark left. Darn, I wanted to get his opinion. I see a few people read through the Paladin class (thanks for the fluff suggestions) Any more suggestions or anything about it or is this thread dead?

>>9603406
namefail, this was me

>>9603378
Anything with Fissure or Sheer cold.

>>9603406
As a bit of background, I did intend it to be a hybrid class between the Ranger and Mystic, but since the Mystic has not been released and we don't really know too much about it, I've just decided to divorce it from the Mystic for now, and just have it be a Ranger class.

Once Mystic is released (Which won't be for a while I'm sure) you can consider the Paladin's Prerequisites to require both Ranger and Mystic.