After your Gaw transport had to faceplant into Arizona flatlands so that the dust didn't cause it to faceplant on something less flat and from a higher height, you were picked up the next morning by your newly repaired Zanzibar Kai class mothership, the "Outer Heaven".

Once you all mount aboard, Captain Fontain switches with Acting Captain Mauser (remember him?) and retakes command of his vessel. Whereupon the Captains Aide details what's been going on since you lost contact.

After half of your squad was forced to split with you, Hovis, Elaine, Calvin and Zolomon managed to make their way to the 67th Supply Depot where you first tested out the Hildolfr. They have access to the Train Network and will probably be using it to return to California, or wherever we need to be.
During the dust storm, we completely lost track of the enemy.
A ship that size can;t hide for long though right?

Right?

Anyhow, with the Trojan Horse lost, Garma, once we return to his temporary base puts all Zeon Forces in the US on High Alert.

"From here gentlemen I believe the Trojan Horse, as badly damaged as it is, will try to make it back to friendly territory as quickly as possible, that gives it three realistic option: Jaburo, Dublin and Torrington."

Char nods.

"In my estimation given their engine damage, I don't beleive that they will risk a journey across the ocean, so their most realistic course from this point will be to strike south and try to find a weak point in the Rio-Grande Line." He supplies.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY AT THIS POINT?

>>9669167
>>so their most realistic course from this point will be to strike south and try to find a weak point in the Rio-Grande Line." He supplies.

What kind of forces do we have in that region?

PS. FUCK YEAH, ZEON QUEST.

>>9669167

That Trojan horse is a pain in the ass, but I say we focus on Jaburo, that place is a thorn in our sides and now we know they won't have Trojan backup.

Its the perfect chance to strike!

>>9669200

If you remember the fun and games of a few months back, pretty much 50% of all forces in the US are based on that defence line, and they're unlikely to go anywhere since the Feds have effectively retaken Mexico.

To be fair it's amazing that you were able to hold onto it as long as you did, since you basically captured all of that territory with a single battalion.

You battalion actually.

Let's get Mouser a Medea. Maybe he can take out one of the Trojan Horses.

>>9669167

GET OUR MAN STRAUSS

LET'S KICK SOME ASS

>>9669296

Straus is upstairs testing out prototypes in Pezun remember?
This is a good thing, it improves your odds of getting your hands on Gelgoogs and Kampfers before anybody else.

>>9669167
"Captain (Garma's a captain, right?), while the Trojan Horse is certainly a threat, but I'm not sure we should switch our attention to it totally. I believe you mentioned a second assault of Jaburo? We'll need all our forces for that, and if we exhaust ourselves taking out the Trojan Horse, we will have dispensed with a powerful foe, true, but with Jaburo intact it will keep manufacturing more tanks, more Federation Mobiles Suits, and more ship. I would say that it is a higher priority."

>>9669334

DAMNIT MAN

I MAY HAVE MISSED 20+ THREADS DUE TO A FUCKED PC, BUT THIS QUEST NEEDS MORE STRAUSS.

MORE I SAY.

>>9669337

Garma leads the entire Earth Attack Force.

Zabi Family Privileges and all that, he was forced into the position.

You could say....it was a misfortune of his birth.

>>9669337

You suggest that now might be the time for a second assault on Jaburo.

"Hmmm, perhaps we should consider it. I'll begin making up plans and setting up recon missions after we return. I'll put the Mad Angler Unit on it. Personally, I'd like some more units of Doms to filter into the US teams before we start though..."

He opts to return to California at this point, where you can reunite with the rest of your unit. You all lift off at about 11 in the morning out of Arizona, and heading back to Cali.

>>9669457

Bit off-topic, Apologised, but what made you start this quest?

I've been here since thread 1, but it seemed to just pop up out of nowhere.

>>9669496

My love of /m/ and Ruby Quest.
Honestly, I've wanted to do this quest for about a year before I actually started, I just didn't want to start up a quest at a time where there were a hundred other quest threads glutting up /tg/.
So I waited until I couldn't find any quest threads on /tg/ and started it up.
At which point we got SlugQuest, HANAquest, CharmandaQuest and others.

>>9669527

Ah, fair enough. The only Quest I ran was Norrisquest.

And that was one thread, not 57. Keep it up.

You return to California and meet up with the rest of your team. Aside from being a little rough round the edges, none of them appear to have taken any injuries.

Garma is currently making calls to get the ball rolling on the second attack on Jaburo, but you are currently free at the moment. You aren't sure what Char is doing at the moment.

WHAT DO?

>>9669457
Ah, so the Doms are starting to make their way to the front lines now, fresh from production? Good!

>>9669655

Upgrade all our equipment! Also make sure we have spare mechs with us when we go, so rather than wait for repairs we can just jump in a spare and get rolling once again.

>>9669698

You're piloting an Act Zaku, you have 3 Pezun Dowdages, your Act Zaku has a salvaged Beam Rifle, your wingman is leaping about in a Gouf Custom with a gun that shoots giant balls on chains.

It would be difficult if not impossible to upgrade your units further.

>>9669730
Speaking of the Beam Rifle, would that be able to punch through the top armor into Jaburo so we don't need to take the drilling MS again?

>>9669655

GET RAMBA RAL

Or Norris Packard

Or someone who is AN ACE with us

It's Jaburo, not a walk in the park.

Strauss maybe.

>>9669655
Go find Char and ask if he has any insights about the second Trojan Horse.

Get improved designs for the Beam Rifle so its less likely to fail us at a critical time, and also a greater power reserve without degradeing the power of the beam.

>>9669743

Not very well, you tried something like that with the Beam Cannons on your Gaw remember? The Active Chobham shielding on the base pluse the great depth at which it's buried makes it difficult for beams to penetrate with any real effectiveness.

>>9669750

You'll have to see when your second attack comes in who you've got on the ground.
If you remember, Norris Packard helped you out during the Jaburo Attack last time.

>>9669788

Pezun and California are working non-stop on this problem, but it's still going to take about a month for them to properly reverse engineer something I'm afraid.

>>9669801
Damn. I was hoping that with all the hype about them being able to shoot through anything we'd have an easy in. In that case, we should probably try to avoid drilling our way in; it takes a long time and means less pilots for combat MS. If only we had another Mad Angler or three to transport the rest of the attack force...

Get more ZOGOKS THE BEST AQUATIC SUIT THAT ISN'T ACGUY

>>9669764
>Go find Char and ask if he has any insights about the second Trojan Horse.

You attempt to find Char, but to no avail. He checked out of the base about 30 minutes ago and nobody knows where he is.
FYI, mobiles haven't worked in quite a while across most of the country due to Minovskies floating about. You'll have to wait for him to come back from whatever he's doing off-base.

>>9669868

I'm pretty sure you meant to say "Hygogg" there mate.

>>9669865

To be honest, the Agg did pretty well in getting you into Jaburo. It took all of 5 minutes or less.

A bunch of Hygoggs would be hilarious to have crawling into Jaburo, lets see if we can do that.

>>9669894
And then HOLY FUCK GIANT DOOR! Which I'm still peeved about, it said it would take 20 minutes to get through but then it ended up taking 40. Anyway, they'll know to expect an attack the second they see Gaws in the sky, so something more sneaky might be better.

We should continue to discourage Garma from another attack on the Trojan Horse.

The last mission basically crippled the strike force (90% of the entire american strategic air reserves destroyed, one Gaw heavily damaged, multiple MS damaged or destroyed) and all we got to show for it is some engine damage on our target.

This insane waste of good men and precious material has to stop.

Jaburo would be one option. Though I would rather suggest Greenland as the next target. Finally shut down all Federation operations on the northern american front. After that we can go for Jaburo (or another target) with the added forces freed up from the Canadian defence.

>>9669953

Be fair, that was an entire door of Lunar-Titanium, a meterial you had NEVER encountered before.

Okay you spend the day bimbling about until Char returns from wherever he went, probably buying clothes, he has the look of a Clothes horse about him.

DO YOU STILL WANT TO TALK TO HIM?

>>9669954

The thing is, that Jaburo isn't just the Federal HQ, but it's also their principal constructor of military material. We take or destroy it and a lot of the Federations production capacity advantage will be gone, it will also be an excellent point to go to the negotiation tables again looking for a Federal Surrender of some kind.

Remember, Zeon DOES NOT have the manpower to conquer and occupy all of the Earth. This is why they wanted the war to only take place in space.

>>9669978
It's Zeonquest time. Excellent.

We can talk to Char. We should talk to Garma, and see what Aces are available to assist us.

>>9669953

>Anyway, they'll know to expect an attack the second they see Gaws in the sky, so something more sneaky might be better.

Or we focus on ruining their air forces this time round.

How many Gigans could we get our hands on?

>>9670022
Come to think of it, how will we handle the fighters and bombers this time? I doubt they'll fall for another decoy.

>>9669978
Go and chat him up about what his opinions are about the second trojan horse showing up so suddenly. Also casually inquire about what he was up to.

>>9670084

We will have to strike via means of a covert assault, sneak in, set charges, then blast the hell out of everything.

>>9670043

You'd need to get the Gigans on the ground to give them a stable firing platform though. Still, they have entered full production as dedicated AA Mobile Suits, taking the Zaku Cannon and AA Zaku Tank factory lines.

>>9670041
You casually ask Char about a second Trojan Horse.

"Well, it seems that the shipyards dedicated to the new Carrier line in Jaburo weren't in the dockyard area you helped destroy last month. In my estimation it seems reasonable that resources that would be put into constructing MAgellan and Salamis ships is now being put into the construction of the new Trojan Horse design."

"That's a bad thing right."

"It depends, in all likelyhood it means an enemy fleet consisting of low quantity but excellent quality. I beleive the real bottleneck will be equipping these ships with Mobile Suits, who have to have their factory lines constructed from scratch and without the previous exceprience that we have. Garma certainly has grown to recognise that we have arrived at the critical stage in the war though..."

You then decide to visit Captain Garma
He is in his office looking over a handwritten missive. He sees you enter and offers you to take a seat.

"Tell me Lt.Commander, how would you feel about another trip to New York?"

AS DIPLOMATICALLY AS POSSIBLE, WHAT DO?

BRB Dinner.

>>9670156
>>"Tell me Lt.Commander, how would you feel about another trip to New York?"

Joking: Planning on tying up one of our team members and sneaking out in her mobile suit again, sir?

Seriously: What's going on?

Also, mention Char's evaluation and suggest we step up the plans for the second Jaburo assault. If we're right, we can't let that go for long.

>>9670156
ACCEPT THE MISSION; WHO WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE A TRIP TO THE BIG APPLE?

>>9670156
I'd respond, in a very diplomatic way, that it depends on what the visit is for. Being far from the RGDL when Trojan Horses are possibly attempting a breakthrough doesn't strike me as a particularly great idea, so unless the NY Visit is important, it may not be worth going.

Gentlemen. To produce as much material as they've been making in Jaburo, the supply chain must be immense.

Where can we interrupt it? What critical materials do they need to be bringing into Jaburo that we can intercept? That chain must be broken for victory's sake.

Interdicting supplies not only retards the rate of enemy production, but liberates valuable war materials for Zeon. Some of the components produced in Jaburo must require exotic materials- available only in a handful of points across the globe.

Rather than expending massive amounts of men and equipment assaulting the most hardened installation the Federals have, strike at what it requires to function and use the Federal production machine to improve our own chances. Starve Jaburo, rather than slay the titan directly- and steal what it needs to feed ourselves until we can win.

The longer the war and the greater our number of victories, the more likely Earth will negotiate more favorably at the end of the conflict.

>>9670303
Their supplies are either from Space, Luna II or the Moon I'd guess, or from Jaburo itself. Zeon already controls most of the Earth at this point, and we still have possession of Odessa, so that highly limits the Federation's options.

>>9668913
we must get that unit, and oh god, 2 white base? Jesus christ is it that one off unit from Movie 2?

>>9670303
Oh, and I agree about your idea of not attacking Jaburo head on. After last time, I'm not sure if we could pull it off.

>>9670348
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>>9670303
They most likely are using mines in Southern America, since the compound is so damn big it could be argue it is self sufficient. Since the Feddies still control the moon, their lunar titanium supply is secure, unless we go Zeta and drop a colony on it.

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>>9670388
Hey, it's random quest thread hater! Hi!

You have to admit one thing: If a thread series goes 57 threads, then it can't be THAT bad (even if you personally don't like it).

>>9670441
No. It just means it is an unimaginative un-loseable "/tg/ can make no fatal choices" And luck or rolling isn't even involved. It is just you all sitting here circle jerking.

Promoting more quests to do the same, in more shitty anime universes.

>>9670382

Technically speaking the Feds don't have any territory on the moon, we have half of it (more or less) and the other half is neutral, and selling Lunarium to the Feds, and if we ever figure out how to make Lunar-Titanium to us as well.

Luna 2 is a resource sattellite that has been hollowed out to make the colonies and is currently used by the Federation as their primary HQ of Space Operations.

>>9670550
So what's stopping us just buying Luna-Titanium or stealing the shipments to the filthy Feddie scum?

>>9670348

Precisely. Big, fat, slow cargo transports. That will have to make their way thousands upon tens of thousands of miles to arrive in Jaburo.

Interdict the approach. Compared to a Trojan Horse, sniping the engines out of a cargo carrier should be child's play with a beam rifle should one get into range. If we can catch them with other forces outside the atmosphere, even better.

If they're stupid enough to take the least-distance approach, you might even be able to drop a very large ship smack on top of Jaburo's landing facilities in the process. If it's intercepted prior to re-entry, we have plenty of low-to-no-G experience in getting said treasures out of orbit and back to Zeon territory, one way or another. Or scuttle it in the atmosphere once we've taken the crew off and any exceptionally valuable war materials.

Enough of that will force the Federals to cover a huge swath of space with troops to feed Jaburo's engines of war- thinning them elsewhere and increasing our ability to hold out.

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I have a cunning plan. Start intercepting shipments into Jaburo, eventually the feddies will hae to redeploy their forces to theshipping lines, weakening Jaburo itself. Then we strike and blow the fuck out of that peice of shit undergrond City.

>>9670623

I'm looking forward to your response to ZEONQUEST part 97, too.

SIEG ZEON!

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>>9670610
Strikes me as something that's likely already being done by Zeon high Command. If it isn't. you're right though, it should. The big problem is covering all that territory ourselves. They merely have to ship it from the moon in neutral transportation to Luna II, which is squarely under their control. Strikes on the way in are possible, but likely very dangerous. Can anyone say Z'gok Diver?

Also, Big Fat Cargo transports defended by probably at least one Salamis, and units of GMs and Balls.

>>9670713
>Delicous salami carriers
>GM holds

HA HA IS FUNNY TO ME

>>9670746
Iseewhatudidthere.jpg

Seriously, none of you can see the downside to attacking NEUTRAL transports? From a side that are probably supplying you as well, with you needing the resources a HELL of a lot more?

>>9670255

You ask Garma what's going on.

"Multiple things really, support for the war effort with collaborating corporations and regional governments is beginning to get shakey in the east coast with our progress effectively stalemated. I've been asked to attend a function where most of them will be in attendance and to shore up support."

"...and the fact that Icelina currently lives in New York has nothing to do with this?"

He looks sheepish.

"That is... and utter coincidence that had not once entered my mind. At all. *ahem*. In any case the presence of two teams of our best aces on the continent as well as Lt.Commander Char would go a long way in assuring them that we have the skills to win this war."

YOUR ORDERS?

>>9670673
I support this plan.

>>9670905
Well, we better go to new york then. Ask what security is going to be like.

>>9670905
Hence my indication of their neutrality earlier. Hm.

Trip to NY;
Upside: Rub shoulders with important folks. Help the Zeon War Effort.
Downside: Far away from the RGDL, and the probable Feddie breakthrough attempt.

How long would it take the OH to get from NY to the RGDL, Apoligised? Willing to bet it would be too long.

>>9670985

Asking about the Security, Garma informs you that there is a local Garrison that is is quite well equipped. Plus two Companies of Mobile Suits.
Aside from that, New York is one of the major manufacturing centers in the US so their is a fair throughfare of units picking up reinforcements, repairing units, as well as newly formed military formations undergoing basic training for ground combat.

Aside from all of that you, Char, Garma and his honor guard and the Midnight Fenrir team will also be present.

>>9671018

Not necerssarily, if you risk trans-orbital you could make it 3-4 hours. Not a big risk as it's mostly Zeon territory upstairs, but you never know with the feds.
A conventional atmopsheric journey would probably take 6 hours.
You could proably make it for a major breakthrough taking several days, but a smaller unit punching through the patrol lines will (if they manage it) have escaped into southern USA before you arrive.

>>9671064
The Midnight Fenrir Team you say?

I am suddenly much much more interested. Potential for FEDDIE BREAKTHROUGH ATTEMPT QUICKLY COME FUCK SHIT UP WITH US.

Ask Garma on the disposition, skills, and transport of the Midnight Fenrir. Also, ask after the current strength of the RGDL. How long could it potentially stop a concerted breakout by two Pegasus class Carriers and constituent MS?

Wait... what? So you're saying that the two best combat teams in the Americas along with Char and the Commander of the earth invasion force are all going to be in one location?

I have a bad feeling about this...

>>9670713

If Zeon high command is taking care of the cargo in space, we can surely do something about anything that gets into atmosphere.

We have a suit-portable weapon capable of critically damaging a ship in a single shot. Against softer targets that are going to lumber through the air like a beached whale, this is quite likely a one-shot mobility kill.

>>9671143
Again, Neutral Transports. From a side that's supplying us as well. And we need it more than the Feds. So probably not going to happen.

>>9670905
This plan seems good. It's not like the attack on Jaburo is going to happen in the next two days or something; a massive operation like that would require at least a week or two of planning, so we should be back in time. The the more I think about it though, the more I like the plan someone posited earlier, of taking complete control of Canada and Greenland before going to Jaburo, so that we don't need to have as many forces stationed there.

>disposition, skills, and transport of the Midnight Fenrir.

Midnight Fenrir consist of 2 MS squads, of which their most up to date tech is 3 F2's and 3 Gouf-A's.
Try to remember YOU'RE the ace squad that get's all the shiny new toys, Midnight Fenrir are the manly men who make do with the old reliable shit.

As for the Rio-Grande Defence Line, it's currently crewed by 2+ MS Battalions and attending units, and it's why the centeral territories in the US were so short of units for you when you were taking on the Trojan Horse. They're based along the border turning the cities along the line into fortresses and setting up plenty of patrols across the the now slightly larger river (one good thing the Colony Drop did was make the Rio-Grande actually live up to it's name) so getting through is going to be a really risky proposition for the Trojan Horse.

Why haven't the Doms been implemented into Zeonic forces yet? I know they were developed after the Gouf, but one of the companies from the first attack on Jaburo had a few Goufs, and it's been a while since then; are they really only just now starting to get produced in numbers and making their way to our forces?

>>9671345
Hurgh. That makes me really horny to stay and wait for them to try, and then Rapid Response all over their faces. And I absolutely know that they'll try while we're in NY. Or they'll try to repair their engines. Hm. Be sure to remind Garma that our patrol units should keep an eye out for Feddie transport aircraft. No sense in giving them back the Engine we just took.

>>9671394

They are. But you have got to remember you are RIGHT on the bleeding edge with terms of what MS's you have access to. In canon you wouldn't even be seeing Gouf's until this period, and the Doms were NEVER properly introduced, only seeing limited deployment by the time the Odessa attack came about.

Okay. Select your party and loudout for this mission.

Hangar

2x MS-06F2 Zaku II's
1x MS-06K Zaku Cannon
1x MS-06E3 Flipper Zaku (Recon)
3x Pezun Dowdages
The Jaburo Assault MS (2 Aggs, 2 Juaggs, 1 Agguguy, 1 Zogok, 1 Zock)
1x Act Zaku
1x Gasshia
1x Gigan
1x Rhinoceros MA

>>9671394
They have. They're just taking time to disseminate throughout the Zeon forces as a whole.

you know, it occurs to me that we could give up some of our older suits to help bring some of the other ace units in the area up to speed in terms of equipment.

>>9671143

Actually, I look at it this way.

If Jaburo isn't interrupted in some way, we drown under superior technology and/or numbers.

And if a ship flagged to a neutral power is transporting war goods, it's a private venture- that is, under law, a neutral power can't send stuff under the aegis of it's government to another warring power, or else it surrenders it's neutrality.

Citizens of said powers can on their own as a business venture ship all the war materials they desire, but in turn those actions are subject to interception and confiscation if the ship isn't in neutral territory. That is, it's considered a private venture, and actions against such a ship carrying contraband is not considered an attack on the neutral power in question, if it's in the territory of a belligerent.

Earth's airspace, by definition is anything but neutral territory. Ergo, if they go to atmosphere, they're a legitimate target under law and can then be fired upon. Delivering to Jaburo guarantees the materials on board are "war materials", hence we actually have the best and only real chance of stopping them from down on-planet, the capacity to do so, and excellent opportunity to engage in it.

>>9671516

Maybe you could bring it up with Midnight Fenrir when you meet? You offered Char an upgrade and he said he wanted to stay in an MS he was comfortable and declined.

>>9671483
How about having the Loadout be the same as usual?

(Honestly can't remember which is which anymore.)

LOADOUT-
Act Zaku; Beam Rifle, Bullpup, Heat Saber/Heat Hawk, Panzerfausts/Crackers Reloads
Pezun Dowadge: 440mm Missile Launcher, 90mm MG w/ GL, Heat Saber, 330mm 'zook on the side if we can manage, Panzerfausts/Crackers Reloads.
Pezun Dowadge: 330mm 'zook, 90mm MG w/ GL, Heat Saber, Panzerfausts/Crackers Reloads
Pezun Dowadge: " (Or 2 Heat Hawks instead of Saber if we end up giving it to Zol.)
Flipper Zaku: On Dodai, probably.
Rhino: Is Rhino. Needs Nothing.

Now for the tough question... Gasshia or B3 Gouf? I'm tempted to say B3 with Hammergun and the usual gear, but we did that, and it wasn't hideously successful. That being said, it IS Zol, and having that Heat Rod will be mighty useful. The Gasshia has the potential to tear shit up, and the Gigan gives us some much needed AA capability, but TBH, I feel that the Gouf is the machine we need at the moment, sooooo...

Gouf Zol Custom: Hammergun, Heat Rod, Shotgun, Shield Gatling, Heat Rod, Twin Heat Hawks, Panzerfausts/Crackers

Do we still have Bernie?

He's barely able to do a Zaku at this point, if what I remember.

>>9671483
David in the Act Zaku: Beam Rifle, Bullpop MG, extra ammo, some crackers that we'll never use but better safe than sorry.

Zol in a Dowdage: two Heat Hawks, 90mm MG, smoke grenades, Heat Sabre for backup, crackers.

Elaine in a Dowdage: 90mm MG, 440 Rocket Launcher, Heat Sabre, Crackers.

Jolyne: Either the remaining Dowdage or the Gasshia.

Bernie: Gigan.

Hovis: Rhino.

Calvin: Flipper.

Also, there was some talk near the end of a thread a few weeks ago about replacing the semi-useless left arm of the Gigan with a second minigun. Putting aside such downsides as inability to reload, has it been spoken of further?

>>9671560
This is a good argument, but it doesn't cover the most important point for not attacking these transports. That we want and need to purchase supplies from the same people supplying the Federation. If we go around kicking their ass, we lose access to a significant amount of badly needed resources, which is something Zeon cannot stand. At all.

>>9671629
Don't forget Grenade Launchers on the 90mm, Sam! You never know when you'll be the only one posting a loadout.

Anyway, as for Pilots...

Bernie is a serious pain in the ass. I'd give him the Act, but I don't want him in a suit that nice. And he can't pilot a Dowadge. So perhaps the B3 IS a bad idea. Class is over, so clutch loadout switch.

Gigan for B3.

David, Zol (Dowadge with X2 Heathawks and Hammergun.), Elaine (440 ML) in Dowadges. Jol in Act. Hovis in Rhino. Calvin in Flipper on Dodai. Bernie in Gigan.

All with the loadouts specified in >>9671590

>>9671634
/agreed. Also they have been anything but neutral with them supplying the federation with all that luna-titanium and not us. So it seems to me their allegiance is pretty clear. However, since they ARE claiming neutrality, we can't really deal with them directly. However, transports in violation of that neutrality is fair game.

>>9671617
Yeah, Bernard Wiseman is still bimbling about building up plot armour.

>>9671629
>>9671590

The tech say that unless you REALLY need it they aren't going to let you have one of their precious rare Beam Rifles that they're trying to reverse engineer.

You may need to have to leave them home.

YOU FINE WITH THAT?

Everything else is fine though.

>>9671634
Yeah except this "company" isn't selling US any of that sweet Luna Titanium, right? Imagine what we could do with a Luna Titanium made Act-Zaku or Gouf.

Fucking Neutrals. NEUUUUTRALS :zapbrannigan.jpeg:

>>9671708
Blah, you're right, I forgot. My bad.

>>9671752
Sure, it's not necessary. Better we suffer one defeat at NY and end up with mass produced beam rifles in a few weeks than to win (And this is assuming that something comes up, which might not happen) than to be without mass produced beam rifles when we need them because we held up research.

>>9671752
We can't have the Beam Rifle?Is that what they're saying?

>>9671752

and, to be fair, we'd rather have a suit designed to work with beam weaponry, as opposed to the jury-rigged design we've got now.

>>9671634

Legally speaking, you can be guaranteed the Federation is doing the same thing if they catch one in our territory. Especially if we're firing to disable, politely return the neutral crews to their home country, and leave anything NOT contraband where it is.

Nations at war on the sea or land have dealt with this sort of thing for centuries, and what I'm talking about are the normal actions of dealing with a neutral ship in hostile territory- in fact, if you ask them to heave to and be inspected and they refuse, you're being gentlemen for simply stopping them with a single well-placed shot. (Which is what you generally do in these cases.)

Radio the cargo vessel to come to a halt and be boarded for inspection. If they fail to do so, cripple the engines. Either way, you come aboard, and if there's so much as one crate marked for Jaburo Base, you're justified under international law. It's part of the risk of the business.

Remember, officially speaking neutral governments can't send ANYTHING contraband to other nations at war. You're just doing in wartime what's been done for centuries prior- stopping a war profiteer from making a pile of money arming the other guy. Now, blowing up said cargo vessels indiscriminately? Bad Idea. Fortunately, Zeon now has a precision weapon to quickly disable a ship without blasting the shit out of it.

>>9671761

Uh. They don't have Luna-Titanium. They have Lunarium which is the component material. And they are perfectly willing to sell you that.

>>9671795

Sure, sure.

On the subject of Bernard Wiseman, I would remind you that you DO still have a couple of F2's knocking about and that MAYBE, MAYBE he would benefit from some experience in a Zaku in preparation for a possible future mission?

Just my opinion, you don't have to listen to me.

>>9671869
Yes, but then who would pilot the Gigan? I suppose we could do with some practice, what with our talk about trying all the latest suits...

>>9671899

It's up to you to be honest, both are good ideas.

>>9671869
Give Bernard an F2 then.

We really should do some espionage and find out how Luna-Titanium is made...

>>9671919
Or we bolt all those Gundam parts we cannibalized to our outer hull, bonus point for being macabre as fuck!

>>9671916
Well then, if no one objects, might as well try out the Gigan ourselves while Bernie gets some experience with the F2.

>>9671919
At this point, it's probably be better to leave the espionage to people like Incognito, whilst they leave the asskicking to people like you.

So

(You) Act Zaku; Beam Rifle, Bullpup, Heat Saber/Heat Hawk, Panzerfausts/Crackers Reloads
(Elaine) Pezun Dowadge: 440mm Missile Launcher, 90mm MG w/ GL, Heat Saber, 330mm 'zook on the side if we can manage, Panzerfausts/Crackers Reloads.
(Jolyne) Pezun Dowadge: 330mm 'zook, 90mm MG w/ GL, Heat Saber, Panzerfausts/Crackers Reloads
(Zolomon) Pezun Dowadge: " (Or 2 Heat Hawks instead of Saber if we end up giving it to Zol.)
(Calvin) Flipper Zaku: On Dodai, probably.
(Hovis) Rhino: Is Rhino. Needs Nothing.
(Bernard) F2: 120mm+GL, Panzerfausts, Grenades, Heat Hawk

Sound okay?

>>9671975

Those parts are being analysed to fuckery right now, not least to try and reverse engineer Luna-Titanium.

>>9672031
What? No, you're the one who said the techs didn't want us to have a beam rifle! And I thought that we'd take the Gigan, since no one objected to the idea.

>>9672082
Oops. Good catch okay, you're in the Gigan then.

Sorry I forgot to remove that from the Cut&Paste. Teaches me.

Okay then with your team selected you begin your journey to New York. You'll be travelling in the Outer Heaven, Garma's team will be travelling in 2 Gaw's along with Escorts.
The Midnight Fenrir will presumably be making their own way there.

You land in Airport at about 8pm. The big do will be tommorow, so, what do you want to do for the rest of tonight?

YOUR ORDERS?

We need Bernie to get Zaku experience if he's to be useful in the metaplot.

GUNBRERO suits our DIA DE LOS MUERTOS vibe. Now we must hang tiny skulls from it.

>>9672192
Whoa whoa whoa.

Nononononono.

David does not ride a Gigan. David rides an Act or a Dowadge.

I'd suggest the following loadout. (I would have suggested it earlier, but I was away.)

Pezun Dowade: David: 330mm 'zook, 90mm MG w/ GL, Heat Saber, Panzerfausts/Crackers, Reloads.
Pezun Dowadge: Zol: 330mm 'zook, Hammergun, Twin Heat Hawks, Panzerfausts/Crackers, Reloads.
Pezun Dowadge: Elaine: 440mm ML, 330mm 'zook (if possible. 90mm MG w/ GL if not) Heat Saber, Panzerfausts/Crackers, Reloads.
Zaku F2 (El Muerto Gigante!): Bernie: Zaku 'zook, 90mm MG w/ GL, Heat Hawk, Panzerfausts/Crackers, Reloads.
Gasshia: Jol: Hammergun, Missile Launchers, Reloads.
Flipper: Calvin: On Dodai
Rhino: Hovis: Rhino

As for the rest of the night, talk to our team about the White Base ambush, commend everyone on a job well done, and either have a few drinks, or work on our Theses, depending on the prevailing mood.

Well, we will be in New Yark and should be under allied aircover, so I guess we could leave the Gigan behind. So long as we aren't ambushed on the way there.

>>9672301

Bernies in an F2, you're in the Gigan, and both of you are in New York already.

What do you want to do now, do you just want to wait for tommorow?

>>9672192

you'd said there was a pretty steady stream of line units cycling through the area, and new units at training camps, so what about maybe visiting them?

>>9672341
If we are, to be perfectly honest, how is a MS on wheels going to contribute to an Aerial battle other than maybe an impromptu bay door turret-that-might-fall-out-of-the-fucking-ship-if-we-bank-too-hard?

>>9672301
Enjoy your air rape.

>>9672394
To elaborate: In the streets of NY, a wheeled MS is going to have very smooth going, and the mobility provided by it will work well with the maze provided by the buildings and streets, which should have good firing lanes.

>>9672357

Its late, the training units all of the training units have all returned to Barracks and with the big do scheduled there's no night training ops scheduled for the next couple of days.
Some of the dignitaries and what not will be witnessing some of the MS training exercises tomorrow though, you might be able to insert yourself into those if you want.

>>9672471
Sure, why not? Heh, maybe Midnight Fenrir will coincidentally be on the opposing side?

>>9672511

Maybe. You could try to find them and find out.

>>9672430
pretty sure NEW YARK was nuked

>>9672539

Pretty sure it wasn't.

I advise against participating. We should instead by ready for a Federation sneak attack. It would be an excellent time for them to come in and start killing us.

>>9672471

maybe not insert- it'd be too easy to let our guys show up the trainees. but observe, maybe advise.

>>9672471
>Some of the dignitaries and what not will be witnessing some of the MS training exercises tomorrow though

GUYS

HEY GUYS

We're here to show them what Zeon is made of right?
We literally have the best possible circumstance to do it.

First: we hold an early AM seminar covering both our combined arms doctrine, and our experience fighting feddie mobile suits. INCLUDE gun-gam footage of us destroying lots of feddie suits for DOUBLE PROPAGANDA POWER

THEN: we take to the field for a training excersize. 5 recruits VS one member of our squad. This allows us to maximize the volume of recruits we are training. Zol takes some guys and teaches them the art of heat-hawkan. Jolyne/Hovis can instruct artillery cadets, Lister can take some junior/rookie officers and instruct them on combat control and squad cohesion.


After we train up Zeon recruits, we put our fancy duds on, and ride our mobile suits into the fancy party because goddamn we are fucking sexy.

>>9672593
Isn't it still pretty run down?

>>9672670

Possibly a little late to rearrange the programme for the training exercises being carried out TOMORROW.

But all in all, it's not a bad idea.

>>9672670
This is a good idea.

>>9672712
Uh, we have Garma

We get whatever the fuck we want. I'm sure if we stroll into base with Garma and tell the base commander that this is how its fucking going today, he isn't going to say anything other than "I'll make the phone calls, sir"

>>9672684

Compared to California which got a Super-Tsunami in the face from bits of colony dropping the ocean and what not?
Pretty much EVERYWHERE is run down in various ways.

>>9672670

This. We should do this.

>>9672670
>>9672670
>>9672670
>>9672670
>>9672670
>>9672670

That is so delicious. I second this motion. Lister-Expo is live! :D

>>9672350
Hurgh.

Can we swap Jolyne for a Pezun Dowadge? She has more experience with Arty than we do. I'm just not cool with having David in a support suit. It doesn't really suit him.

>>9672799
wine smashin

>>9672816
Chillax, Jolyne is fine with a Pezun, we'll tool about in our suit. This should just be exposition , an attack on New Yark is kinda unexpected.

>>9672875
She's fine in a Pezun, but I'm not sure David is fine in a Gigan. (Although I'm sure we'll figure it out.)

Also. The Federation? Mount an unexpected surprise attack? On Garma Zabi? In Zeon Territory?

Gee.

That's never ever happened before, has it?

But yeah, if we can swap, cool, if not, whatevs. I'd just rather David in a Dowadge over a Gigan.

You start asking about a seminar on your Mobile Suits in Action thesis.
It's short notice, but the mixed arms doctrine you've been making has been going around the heads lately and it's beginning to get some traction.
With the Feds finally building their own Mobile Suits the Trainers are enthused about you giving a seminar complete with MS vs MS combat footage. However the seminar will be early, starting at 8:30, so as not to disturb the start time of the training exercise, which is 50% PR stunt as anything else.

They also wouldn't mind you inserting yourself into training exercise if you wish, but they ask you only include one squad of direct combat suits, no Artillery or LR stuff, the idea is to keep things flashy and impressive.

SOUNDS OKAY?

a feddie attack on new york is a terribad idea

- two of the top-tier zeon ace squads
- Char
- fuckall recruit meatshields to draw fire
- numerous verteran units getting repairs/replacements


Attacking new york now would be like attacking a beehive. I, for one, really hope they do try to pull something. With so many aces in the mix, we'd ruin their shit but good, and right in front of everyone that has doubts.

Nothing like a live-fire demonstration to show someone our chops.

>>9672948
>flashy and impressive.

Let's put Zol in charge of that bit.

>>9672948
Damnit. I wanted to actually put our experience to use in TRAINING these rookies, not just setting up a dog and pony show for some pompous dignitaries.

I say we stick with the Seminar, and invite all the dignitaries (might be a good chance to see who is serious about this war, and look for potential future allies)

As for training, send Zol in to show what a gouf can do. Lister doesn't need to waste his time on some song and dance puppet show.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OltVIUlmB3Y

One day.

One day.

Also, Doms as frontline Zeon MS?

Delicious. :3

>>9672986

Yah. That'll give us a chance to unwind after our seminar. We need to make up some powerpoint slides for our combined arms thing in the morning.

And also look out some footage of Nachtmaren leaping away from exploding land battleships and heathawk fencing with enemy Mobile Suits and stuff.

>>9672948
Flashy and Impressive?

Soooooooo Dowadges? David, Zol, Elaine in Dowadges? That sounds flash and impressive. (We can get back in the Gigan after if its still an issue.)

>>9672948
Can we do the exercises in El Muerte Grande?
It would be all sorts of awesome to kick ass with our old suit with its paintjob.
Would also serve to prove our tactics if we do it in suits that most MS squads use rather then cutting edge stuff like the PezDow's/Act/gigan/gass right?

>>9673064
>>9673064
>>9673064
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC6vAtuFNKs

Next on Zeonet! Nachtmaren Squad shows the skills that have won them so many victories on the Earth Sphere.

And next, an exclusive interview with Pilot Zolomon Ringo!

"So, Ringo with the successes in the North American Campaign, what are your plans?"

".... you wanna grab dinner after this?"

"..."

Uh. Up next, the weather....

>>9673064

I'd say Zol, Elaine, Jolyne.

>>9673071

This is also a point. Think we should have our dudes in standard Zakus?

Unless it's gonna be, like, us vs All Of The New York Recruits.

This said, it'll probably end up being Midnight Fenrir. So may as well go with the Dowadges.

>>9673071
>Can we do the exercises in El Muerte Grande?

If that was the F2 you had Bernard take with you then sure.

>Would also serve to prove our tactics if we do it in suits that most MS squads use rather then cutting edge stuff like the PezDow's/Act/gigan/gass right?

Possibly, but on the other hand those are pretty flashy suits that would impressive the collaborators. Your choice.

>>9673101

Oh god, I can see it now.
So who do you think got the hottest women? Zeon or the Federation?

>>9669641
>>9669641
>>9669641
>>9669641

FFFFFFt.

I just got to that part of LoGH.

<_<

>>9673214
>>9673214
>>9673214

We want to show the awesomeness of Zeon Machines.

Whats the current squad loadout for front line Zeonic suits?

If we do that,w e can be more educational and just as flashy.

Zolomon's Gouf is a given though.

>>9673214
I'm cool with either, but I feel that if at all possible we should have our Top 3 Pilots in our Top 3 Suits, especially if we might go up against Fenrir. David, Zol, and Elaine are our best pilots, in my mind, and the Dowadge's are our best suits for ground combat in an Urban Environment. We could also do all Zakus, but only one would be in colors, so it wouldn't have quite the same effect.

>>9673214

All of the suits we have with us are painted in Nachtmaren colours anyway, right?

>>9673265
Not with us.

>>9673281
Yeah, but we only have 1 F2.

>>9673281
They should be, since Ookawara started doing that by the time we got Doms.

And the Fenrir only has Gouf As and F2s. Curbstomping them with our Pezun suits hardly seems like it would make a good show.

>>9673281

I think so. The Gigan is more of a generic black colour scheme as it's pretty non-human in look, the Dowdage has gotten a new Nachtmaren scheme similar to the Doms.

So yeah lots of giant skeletons walking about.

>>9673366
No, it wouldn't be a fair fight, but it would be a fucking KICK ASS show.

This might sound crazy, but how about letting someone else take the Dowdages for this excercize / PR stunt? Random redshirts in super flashy suits getting owned by a super elite unit in production models. We get the flashiness of the super units combined with showing off how superior tactics beats superior mechas?

>>9673387
>>9673387
>>9673387

Is it possible we can get F2s and aGOuf in Nachtmaren colors painted up?

Just for the Exposition. So its more a show of skills than tech.

Maybe we can have the Dowdages and stuff for the rookie training portion?

>>9673366

They're aces, and they're very familiar with their machines. I kinda doubt they'll go down that easy.

Also, I'm still recommending we skip participating in the demo personally. Leave it to Zol. He's good at flashy, and David'll probably be tired, because it is LATE, and we need to put something together for the seminar we're apparently doing at 8:30 tomorrow.

Plus that way we can't be accused of going *too* hard on the OpFor.

>>9673411
It's really unlikely raw recruits would be able to handle a Dowadge. Remember the kicks we took when we first got the Proto-Dom?

I hate gihren's Greed... why do the comp factions have infinite ressource.

>>9673429

While I like the Nachtmaren paintscheme as much as the next dude, let's not go nuts here. We're talking about fairly large mobile suits. By tomorrow morning.

Let's not make ourselves unpopular with the techies.

>>9673529
As someone who's first game was as the Titans, that should be the very LEAST you should be complaining about.

I think a faction nabs parts of the map with no warning something like 5 times? Also, it's not infinite resources, it's just whatever they're earning plus about 8000 in resources and cash. Which you can do... if you want to ram yourself so far into Chaos that people start setting effigies of you on fire.
Plus if this is titans you'll lose a SHITTON of decent newtypes and pilots, ol' Paptimus Scirroco being the main one.

Hey Apologized, how close are we to Doms being more common on the front?

Or are they in a sort of limited production with F2s being predominant.

>>9673627

Howabout you take the F2, scrounge a spare Gouf from somewhere, don't worry about a new colour scheme, they'll know who Zol is fairly quickly, and take the Act Zaku, but ditch the Bullpup and just take a 120mm?

>>9673734
>>9673734

That I can get behind.

>>9673734
sounds good

honestly, the loadout of suits and arms aren't that important. This is just a training thing.
advance to tomorrow time plz

>>9673734

Works. Although I still express concerns about how fit Dave'll be in a fight given all the other shit he has to do to prep for the seminar and actually give it. Kinda light on the "sleeping" hours. I know we're *used* to it, but it strikes me as kinda silly to go out of our way to do absolutely everything personally when we don't have to.

Give Jol, Zol and Elaine a chance to shine.

Plus that lets us act like we're still badass even if Zol does something stupid, since we aren't in direct command when he does it.

>>9673734
Sounds good. It may not be a Custom, but Zol's done wonders in a Gouf before.

>>9673689

I won't say they're ever going to be more common than a Zaku on the front, but New York and California are turning out a fair few.

It's unlikely that you're going to be up against a squad of them tommorow though. You could ask I suppose.

>>9673828

Yeah, that probably is not a bad idea. Find out exactly what the plan is for the demo from someone. Pilots, MSes, rules of engagement, the works.

>>9673631
It's more than 8000 + income because by the end of the game with only one province left the AI can still churn out a maxed construction list of those super expensive 6000 resources/money+ units a turn. Not sure if the AI actually got any limitation on income or maybe they just start with 200 000 in everything.

>>9673828
doesn't matter
finish the evening preparing for our lecture, time advance to tomorrow morning

>>9674063

Sure, you'll probably get a lowdown at the last minute about what you'll be up against.
You set up some prepatory notes on the lecture, not that you haven't been planning for something like this off and on for a while.

After getting some flashcards and a fairly decent powerpoint presentation ready, along with some choice bits of footage that aren't regarded top secret you choose to get some sleep.

>>9674194
Exxxxxcellent.

A seminar on advanced tactics, a flashy pro-Zeon mock battle, and then after all that... SURPRISE ZAKU DANCE COMPETITION!

The next morning you get up nice and early to deliver your lecture.

It's almost hard to believe that 7 months ago you were as fresh faced as these kids. Christ, some of them can't be older than 16.
In anycase you deliver your mixed unit tactics seminar, with an emphasis on Anti-MS methodology. A couple of decent shots of your battle with the Crazy Eight and against the Prototype Gundam in Jaburo help impress the lads.

You take questions afterwards, it's nothing you can't handle. Afterwards it's the combat exercise. Some of the dignitaries were present to your seminar, they seemed impressed at your presentation as well.

You get given a sheet outlining the scenario the Training Corps have come up with.

>>9674432
uh . . .ok

and?

>>9674524
Chill out man, he's gotta type it out first.
Jesus.

The scenario is as follows

It's a standard capture the flag scenario, your team of 3 plus a second team of 3 trainees in J type Zaku's against another team of two MS teams, 3 trainees in J type Zaku's and 3 members of Midnight Fenrir in 3 Early type Gouf A's.

The match will be 3 rounds, each round last 5 minutes or until one team has run out of mobile suits.

WHO WILL BE IN THE 3 MAN TEAM?
OTHERWISE YOU'RE ORDERS?

>>9674575

It should be a team of Ourself, Zoloman and Hovis, this will give us a solid base of one all rounder, one combat specialist and one ranged specialist.

>>9674617
The MS's you picked yesterday was El Muerto Grande, a Gouf B, and the Act Zaku with it's Bullpup replaced with a 120mm.

They specifically asked for no long rangers to keep things up close and visually impressive for the audiance of bigwigs.

>>9674575
>>9674617
I agree with this although I suggest Lister isn't in the group. That way we can show the big wigs "Hey, my strategies work even when I'm not there to direct them."

See if you can't have a zaku wave an impossibly large zeon flag at some point in the proceedings

also wink at any pretty young recruits 'ever suck off a war hero behind a zaku?'

>>9674661

True enough, so we swap out Dave for say, Elaine? Also its not so much a matter of suit speciality, more pilot speciality, so we can show once again that a well balanced force will do better than one comprised of soley one style.

>>9674740
So, Elaine in the F2, Zol in the Gouf (loaded out with twin paint-hawks as customary) and... who do you want in the Act Zaku?

Let's go with David, Zol and Jolyne. That was the original three, right?

>>9674575
Jol, Zol, Elaine. Zol in the Gouf, and the ladies play rock-paper-scissors for the Act.

>>9674575
heero, kira, the guy from 08th ms team (the only other gundam series i've seen)

>>9674790
I'm a fan of this, but if we're going for the Not-David approach, I'd say Elaine, Jol, Zol.

elayne lister and zol

zol makes mincemeat of the 3 enemy recruits, lister and elayne distract fenrir until Zol shows up and SURPRISE HEATHAWK BUTTSEX

>>9674815
>>9674820

Jolyne in the Act Zaku then?

>>9674834
This except replace lister with Jol.

>>9674838

Indeed. While they're kicking ass, Lister can go hobnob with the important people and push just how good our tactics are and that they should adopt them.

>>9674900
>>9674900
>>9674900

Sounds good to me.

>>9674834
>>9674900
>>9674932
gets my >sealofapproval.jpeg

>>9674932

The Match starts well, your teams raw recruits seem to get with the programme pretty quickly. Using the artifical cover they move forward to try and draw the enemy fire and reveal their locations whilst your squad defends the flag.
There is an exchange of close range fire that ends badly for them as they meet with Midnight Fenrir and Jolyne orders the survivor to retreat back to the flag, your team then moves forwards and manages to flank Midnight Fenrir, but the team have detected your advance and combat is tough.
Zolomon takes a risky charge and manages to take down an enemy mobile suit in close combat but is forced to break of his assault after taking heavy damage to his suit.
This also leaves him seperated from the main squad. Luckily the rest of your team has the Midnight Fenrir pinned.
Unluckily, the second squad of rookies have started to move forward to flank you in turn. Luckily they aren't able to advance without being spotted by Jolyne and her and Elaine get into defensive positions that work to their advantage and keep the second squads occupied. However with only two member the Midnight Fenrir slope off towards your undefended flag.
Luckily for you in a suprise kamikaze attack your last rookie manages to take one of the two remaining member out.
Whilst your squads fighting retreat manages to take one of the rookies out and damage the other two. Leading them into a cul-de-sac and employing grenades finishes those off. Luckily in this time Zolomon has managed to nab the flag and whilst the last Midnight Fenrir member takes the flag, Elaine and Jolyne jump him before he can get it back to his base.
First point to you.

"Is it standard doctrine to charge in like Lieutenant Comander?" One person asks you (Mayor of New York you think)
You grit your teeth and have an aggrieved internal monologue against Zolomon.

"Uh, Zolomon is somewhat of a special case. He has developed a skill for, how do I put this? Knowing how far he can push his luck? Although he does have a tendency to get it closer than the rest of us would like."

"Is he a newtype?"

"I don't think we really understand newtypes well enough to make that call sir."

The conversation is halted as the second round is beginning.

Uh . . .

The second round starts somewhat badly for you as using the rookie team as bait the other side attempt to draw out Zolomon into an ambush.

Zolomon being Zolomon, he takes the bait. Despite this before he goes he manages to take out 3 mobile suits and serious damage another in a highly impressive display of close combat skill.
It highly impressed the audiance anyway. You on the other hand are going to have another talk with Zolomon about those all or nothing charges, though to be honest you suspect he's only doing it because this is a training exercise, and to play up to the crowd.
In anycase by the time Zolomon has been taken down combat has split into several smaller firefights, with the other side on the defensive. They manage to keep themselves close together and mount a strong defence in their base.
You lose a couple of rookies and Jolyne loses the use of her arm in the process.
Eventually however, you're able to push through the defense line and get the flag before getting out. After that it's running battle from them back to the base, which both take a couple of casualties, and the flag changes hands a few times, but eventually you make it back to win the second round.

It's messy, but a 2-0 victory is pretty clear. Afterwards you take several questions from the crowd.

FIRST QUESTION

"So, Mr Lister? How did you come up with your combined arms doctrine?" Asks one dignitary

YOUR ANSWER?

Its nice to see that our squad can handle themselves. :D

>>9675516
"Experience in battle. NEXT QUESTION."

>>9675516
>>9675516
>>9675516

Grr... do we be honest and say that we were watching the Feddies tactics?

Or do we say the voice in our head....

>>9675516
>>9675552

Lets not forget that it was these tactics that worked so well in wars fought in the past, its only natural for such sound strategies to work just as well on the modern battlefield, good ideas never get old.

>>9675516

someone'll have to clean it up, but point out that, while warfare changes, combined arms has been successful for as it's been available as a strategy.

>>9675481
See, if we can take out four of them for every one of us, we can win this war.

>>9675594
>>9675594
>>9675594

"We're a avid reader of military history, and the untapped potential of a Zeonic Combined arms theory was there. I was just fortunate I had excellent teachers, and fantastic squad leaders to teach me and lead by example" Then we smile.

>>9675605
>>9675594

Yes.

Point out that our work was really just adapting them to the modern battlefield.

>>9675516

joke answer: The voices in my head told me, If you write it Tomino might not kill them all.

Real answer: After observing the way we have been conducting combat operations since Mastadon Battalion, we realized what we could do to increase effectiveness, so we decided to write this to increase effectiveness of Zeon and help with peacekeeping operations.

>>9675552
>>9675594

You explain that it was a combination of studying previous wars and your own personal experience.

"I understand you have a second thesis about Wartime Occupational Ethics? Could you explain how that came about?"

TRY NOT TO KILL THE MOOD.

>>9675657
>>9675657
>>9675657

"We're fighting this war for Spacenoid independence. We cannot have a lasting peace if we do not have standing protocols as per the Antartic Treaty."

"Besides, I don't think the Feddies have one, so we should be the first, right?"

>>9675692
>>9675692
>>9675692

Change the second setence to "I don't see any evidence of the Feddies having one, so we should be the first to make steps toward that right?"

>>9675657

Elucidate on how we've seen how unpleasant things can get in war, and that without proper discipline, soldiers of both sides become nothing but a symbol of hatred for the civilian population.We felt that steps should be taken to avoid Zeon falling into some of the common pitfalls. Being nonspecific and not going into details.

Tell them that you plan to blow up more civilian targets TO SHOW THE FEDERATION THAT YOU'RE SERIOUS

And add something like, 'In the post Zeonic Victory world, we'll need the support of the Earth born citizens. They need to be treated as humans within Zeon rather than an occupied people."

>>9675657
"Well in my time with the military so far, we've taken and held several towns and villages, and I've managed to even see some of them after being occupied. The fact of the matter is that while we're being monsters, if we can give people better conditions than they have now then they'll hopefully accept us much more readily, which should help to prevent dissension and rebellion. Indeed, some places that are wavering on whether to defect could be swayed by knowledge that Zeon cares for the land and people in its charge."

>>9675711
>Change the second setence to "I don't see any evidence of the Feddies having one, so we should be the first to make steps toward that right?"

They nod at this, most are well versed in how corrupt the federation is, even if they've been on the beneficial end of it most of the time.

"Tell me Mr Lister, do you think Zeon can really win against the Federation?" Someone asks.

YOUR ANSWER?

>>9675753
That's worded very poorly. Equating us to monsters is not going to help in this situation.

Say something like, "We need to be what the Federation hasn't. We need to be the good guys."

>>9675771
chuckle at him nonchalantly

turn and walk into sunset

>>9675782

I'll allow this if you make a CSI Miami style remark as you do so.

>>9675771
>>9675771
>>9675771

Yes, yes we can.

>>9675771

Certainly. We have a technological edge, we have, in general, better pilots. The only thing the federation has going for it is it's preexisting resource base that's let it rush through a small number of prototypes ((And ridiculous plot armour)).

Admittedly, this is a fairly large thing to have going for you, and we don't expect this to be an easy war, but Zeon is more than capable of winning it.

>>9675771
"We need the support of every Zeonic citizen for this effort. Right now, we're better than anything the Feds can throw our way. But we need the support of the people. Of every person. This I believe, is why our actions in occupied areas and in post war operations is crucial, as I've outlined in my thesis.

Zeon will prevail. We have the might, and we have the heart. I'll fight to see us victorious, and I'll die if needed. I've read about historical generals in my downtime. I can't recall who, but an American leader once said, War is not meant to be you dying for your country-it is by making the other bastard die for his. And we're doing a hell of a job at that."

>>9675771
"It's a possibility. I won't lie to you all, right now the Federation has numbers on their side and they are starting to catch up to us in Mobile Suit design. However, while they are just now starting to get their first Mobile Suits off the ground, we're already working on third and fourth generation Mobile Suits, far superior to what they are putting out. In addition, we've been developing Mobile Armors, one of which we actually have with us. What we need now are more recruits, to help against the Federation's advantage of numbers. Though a better air superiority fighter wouldn't go amiss either."

>>9675771

Of course, proper training and education of our troops as well as a sound strategic overview will assure us of victory in this war. We must remember however, that victory for us does not mean we have to stamp out every Federation presence, merely force their surrender through superior tactics.

>>9675820
>>9675820
>>9675820

Those are so hard to write for UC Gundam. It seems more like a Gundam Fighter sorta thing.

>>9675771
"With the technology my team and I have captured from the Federation forces in the field Zeon has gained a significant amount of potential firepower that the federation is currently unable to deal with. Coupled with our advances in mobile suit engineering and the constantly improving quality of our training regimens, Zeon is on the cusp of fielding an army of highly skilled mobile suit soldiers with top-notch weapons. My lectures on combined arms, and today's demonstrations, have shown how zeonic mobile suits are capable of multiplying the amount of force they already bring to a fight.
In short, sir, the federation is about to find itself outgunned and outmaneuvered with it's back against the wall here on earth. I do not believe it is a question of IF Zeon can win this war . . . . it is a question of how long those federation dogs will take to accept the hopelessness of resisting the might of Zeon"

>>9675854
Whilst I'm sad nobody decided to go for a CSI style quote before walking off into the sunset, this is probably the best answer that will give the impression that you're going to win, but without vastly upsetting the applecart that these men have all gotten used to pinching from.

Go for it?

>>9675912
Combine that with a minor emphasis that we need support of the people. More recruits and the like.

>>9675935

Second.

>>9675912
Sure, looks good.

I'd really like to see one of these rich industrialists get all patriotic and sign up to be a MS pilot.

"I grew up in side 3 about to become a farmer when war broke out. I signed up, went through training, now I'm here. What about you Callahan?"

"Yeah Old Man, how'd you get here?"

"I was born here. In Connecticut. I own a steel company. I was up in New York City a few months ago, attending a seminar on the war effort. David Lister was speaking about the need for soldiers. My company was in fine hands, so I signed up. Now I'm driving an 80 foot tall robot and kicking ass in Africa."

>>9675935
>>9675984

You talk about how with the support of the people who are confident you can secure a surrender from the Federation.

GOOD JOB. THE DIGNITARIES HAVE BEEN REASSURED.

Now all you need to worry about is the Soiree tonight...

TO BE CONTINUED.

>>9676033

>>9675912
>>9675912

Aquire Beam Rifles

AdviceLister.jpg

Disregard Plot armor

Lets charm the shit outta them.

>>9676033

That would be awesome.

Sadly, I don't think we are quite that CHARISMA. But still. Would be sweet.

>>9675935
>>9675854
>>9675912

"We have the technology and we have the pilots. However, what we don't currently have is the will of the people. Although the people of glorious Zeon support us with both their hands and their hearts, it is not only they which must win over. Modern Warfare isn't about decimating the enemy, but breaking their will to fight and then winning over the populace.

As many of mankinds great conflicts have taught us, the most difficult fights happen after the war when dealing with the residual sentiments of both sides of the conflict. If we don't do this, we are only setting up ourselves for another war. This is where my post war thesis comes in.

If we can show the civilians on the other side that losing doesn't mean death of them and their families, their hearts won't be as firmly behind the federation and will make our peace time efforts that much more successful."

>>9676056

Cool.

Hey Apol, there be another one this weekend, or are you cutting back to one a week?

Also, think you're gonna do another SoTS game? I ended up picking it up last week. I am still nubcakes, but I'd like to join.

God, this dragged on later than I thought it would.

In anycase. With a bit of luck you can see me tommorow and we'll continue this then.

OMAKE

Char looked over the missive supplied to him by the child, keeping the war orphans in the city employed as an information network was paying off in all kinds of ways for Zeon lately.
He looked at pictures from the now ruined Madison Square Garden stadium.

A couple of kids had taken them old style camera's they'd probably looted from the ruins earlier in the war after taking food from those in the picture. Heck, one of them was even giving a peace sign to the camera in an act of perversity.

He tapped the wooden armrest of his chair absently.

“Hmm, as much as I hate being wrong. I wonder if there's some way I can use this to my advantage.”

Char then put the photos of the Trojan Horse back into the brown envelop he had received them in, and got up to get ready for tonight's dinner.

Good job Apoligized and people. It was fun as always :D

>>9676135

CHAAAAAAAAAAAAR!

*shakefist*

>>9676135
THE TROJAN HORSE IS HIDING IN MADISON SQUARE GARDEN?

>>9676135
>>9676135

FFFFFFFFFFT

>Also, think you're gonna do another SoTS game? I ended up picking it up last week. I am still nubcakes, but I'd like to join.

The problem is that we keep getting problems with Hamachi randomly tossing people out of the server for no apparent reason, and going via the Internet Games requires you to be using a legitimate copy, and apparently the rest of /tg/ has less money that me who bought this from Steam.

Me.

The guy on unemployment benefits.

>>9676154

What the FUCK are our defense forces doing?

How do you *sneak* a fucking flying battleship into one of Zeon's most heavily defended cities?

>>9676033
I like this idea.

>>9676171
That's because it's fucking awesome.

>>9676168
>>9676168
>>9676168

... they were all attending our expo. XD

>>9676168

Possibly with the aid of some kind of tactical genius?

>>9676253

LISTEEEEEEEEER!

...

Wait, that makes no sense.

>>9676412

Like I said, the military patrols through the center of the US are REALLY sparse, they'd spot a large formation, but a single ship flying REALLY low?
That might have a chance.

Plus:

>>9676412
>MINOVSKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!!!!!

fixed for Dem Particles.

With our knack for getting prototypes I really hope we end up with one of these.

Especially if we can get it fitted with a giant heat hawk instead of a sword.

>>9676168
With a cardboard box, duh.

>>9676162

SoST?