There's a moral to this story, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

Grizzly bear, grizzly.

>>13538584

Foraging: Game-breaking bullshit. They need to errata that nonsense.

I put all my stats into intelligence, and I managed to survive through the winter by stealing picnic baskets from campers at a nearby National Park.

Sadly, I got too greedy and I took a kid. The park ranger and twenty other guys rolled up with various weapons and mauled me. Still, it was a good run.

>>13538568

Kodiak player here. Grizzlies and Polars are gay.

How do you hunt a bear in winter?

How's the Panda class? Seem pretty useless to me.

>>13538662
Weeaboo bullshit.

>>13538658
With a Helicopter

>>13538662

The Bambooites whisper its name in dread nightly.

I think this grolar bear class is a trap. It looks good at first, but you don't even want to know what my daily calorie consumption is.

>>13538662

The Low Birthrate penalty is beyond harsh, but you can pull some pretty neat tricks if put enough points into Chinese Conservation.

Oh fuck that. My DM says "you hear a loud noise in the sky" but then he won't let me run away unless I pass an Intelligence check because he says I don't know what a helicopter is, and so I end up getting shot by Sarah Palin.

I'm just imagining bears hunched over a stump playing a bastardized version of D&D now.

>>13538710

Grolar bear, grolar.

I was the ST in a Bear game once.
Putting together the players was rough, one girl wanted to play a deer, i just refused her from playing, and one guy.
A Liger. Seriously.
Oh i let him play his character, and when he, to no ones surprise, went to hit on the party's only polar bear, I went ahead and told him his Liger was impotent. The look on his face. No half tiger half lion half bear babies for him.

>>13538670
But it's Chinese. Whatever I'm playing Red Panda.
>>13538715
Alright.

>>13538725
Next "Dogs playing Poker."

>>13538759
It was bullshit they included Red Pandas. They aren't even bears. Next they'll add koalas.

>>13538781

Dude, you didn't hear about the third quarter splatbook schedule? Be prepared for disappoint.

How do your deal with somebody who wants to play a koala?

>>13538803
They have to take a will power save to remain awake, DR 15. They have to take a will power save to keep from being killed by cold weather. DR 30.

Every hour.

They should be Australian NPCs only. Not player characters.

>>13538781
They're still cute. Beside their stat penalties are so high that it make the game harder.

>>13538803

>How do your deal with somebody who wants to play a koala?

>>13538790

Wait a couple months.

Tried to multiclass black/brown. GM said no dice.

>mfw

The Australian Handbook is like Tome of Battle of Bears.

I ST'd oBear, but I was never really satisfied with the way the writers tied up the metaplot. I felt like the breakdown of various habitats and foraging for food in Urban regions was too far-fetched of an end-game.

>>13538833
You ever play Ancient Earth expansion?

Fucking Cave Bear up in this bitch!

So our fucking grizzly attacked the party last game. Chaotic Stupid barbearian argument.
So glad I took Salmon Slap last level. I think he's still counting the damage roll.

I've rolled up my warforged bear.

i hath come for thee!!

>>13538933
Bear god of Death. The quintessential BBBEG

Kodiak player here. My ST's girlfriend just joined as a half-Panda, half-Grizzly. The ST has her build broken to fuck AND she's going to try to Mary Sue it up.

How do I troll?

This is how I Bar-Bearian.

>>13538954
Fluff/environmentally, you remind her that her AWWSOCUTE panda side is native to tropical rainforests, so winter is going to be HARSH, and either way, as a hybrid, she is more than likely sterile

Otherwise, don't, let her have her fun, and enjoy riding her bear back after she has her fun.

>>13538954
Insist you keep track of calories. Good luck sustaining your bamboo-oriented diet requirement with the Grizzly's energy needs. If her bear isn't comatose by the end of the first session, I'll eat my hat.

This thread.

>>13538985
Is it made out of bamboo?

I heard about a homebrew version with these guys, anyone played it yet? I can't find the rules anywhere.

>>13539016
Aw man, that "stare" is the most broken thing ever.

Guys, I am in conflict with my BM

The manual says that brown bears can take Motorcycles proficientcy, so I wanted to know if I couldn't use it for express hunting, like speeding through and mauling a deer on the go or maybe going through a human town to get a salmon, but he says that you can only drive on a motorcycle sense your bear hands aren't really meant for it in the first place.

What do you guys think? Or should I drop it and go for the bear necessities instead of trying to stick out a little

>>13538954

If she's half Grizzly, there's no way she's got Rank 3 Chinese Conservation. Try and get her to come along on a bee yard raid and sit back as her Unnatural Coloring attracts every redneck with a shotgun in five mile radius.

If she DOES have Rank 3 CC... Punch your ST in the face, seriously.

So I want to play this guy right here in my next BTM game, but my BM says he's overpowered. Bearshit. Just because he has Talent: Sing doesn't mean he can't be balanced.

How do I convince my BM?

Sun Bear here, Black Bears are for faggots.

Speaking of, why the shit do you all use the same generic cold forest setting? Why can't we get more badass jungle and island campanes going?

Bears make meh rogues.

Tunneling badgers up in this bitch! Erupting from the ground, claws aimed at your balls!

>>13538829

Weeaboo Foragin' Magic.

>>13539037

Carnival of Bears is the most bullshit splatbook I've read since The Australian Handbook. Me, I wouldn't even let you have the motorcycle, let alone try to hunt on it.

Man forget this game, the rules are bearable in the least. Combat is overbearing taking forever just to get stuff done.I recommended forbearing from this game till the new rules come out.

>>13539037

Go for Bear Necessities. It lowers how human flavor enemies aggro you, giving bad ass backswipes. Rumor has it next expansion lets you take a Human familiar!

>>13539062

Badgers got retconned along with half of everything else out of the early Rogue Pelt Trader days.

I smell a troll.

>>13539056

BEARS. DON'T. SING. They don't ride motorcycles, they don't juggle fruit, and they don't balance on balls. I swear I hate CoB so goddamn much.

Is becoming the Avatar legal?

>>13539120
They should have balanced it out with negatives to the survival and foraging skills. Most BMs forget to do this.

>>13539120
Hey, fuck you buddy. Nothing wrong with CoB.

You think you guys have horrible crossbreeds in your game? God my BM is ridiculous for allowing this.

>Bear* Slasiong
Captha is getting into this.

>>13539061
Because jungles are easymodo, real bears hunt in the snow and live life at the fullest. Black bears are the best species ever!

>>13539098

Got my ST to homebrew them for me. I have half the hit points of a black bear, and I can put less points in Intimidate, but the bonuses to Hide and Tunnel make up for it.

KJFHSDFDSSKDJFHSSHDFSD

Just saw the press release article for the next expansion.

What the FUCK.

This is my roleplaying experience nowadays. So alone. I can't bear the loneliness.

>>13539174

If they have Matt Ward write that one too I swear I'm going back over to Lions & Savannahs. I don't care if I have to deal with 4e bullshit.

>>13539174
Talking bears is the B:tM equivalent of firearms in D&D - doesn't fit at all, but everybody seems to demand it anyway.

Bear in mind that the DM doesn't have to use this product and can veto any splatbook.

In my group the BM has a wolverine attack the party any time someone says a pun.

My BM suggested we might play an epic bear game, so I wanted to know what you guys would suggest for my character

Pic related; I am thinking of making an russian bear who escaped from the circus with some knowledge of how to use human equipment, but is otherwise a barbearian.

hey guys, I was with my gaming group and they suggested we play BTM the next time we meet,
I have had a quick look at the rules but i need a bit of help deciding what species to make.
grizzly looks fun but, if i could get an experienced opinion that would be great

>>13539274
If its your first time then Grizzly might be one of the easier types, but always inquire with your BM what setting you are running, because it would be embearrassing to show up with an polar bear in an jungle campaign

>>13539295
yes it is my first time playing
i'll get onto my BM about that now

anything else i should ask him?

>>13539332
Well for one you should ALWAYS enquire about humans and how far away human civilization is, and if you might know what kind. If you are near a city you can skirt by with less Foraging and more Health. Some have been very successful, but if its a town, always focus on Hide, rednecks are more likely to attack than citygoers. However, you might be looked down upon if the campaign is not based around the city as much as running from it, because the DM might make one of the raids show up on the Animal Control radar, and that won't be beary good at all..

Stealth attribute is bullshit. I tried to sneak through a playground and it ended up horribly

>>13539153

>Best species ever

>Barely any have chest marks

>Much more limited diet

>Reduced to a joke and novelty by humans

>Typecast as eating honey while the glorious sunbear master race gets the actual honey.

Sure is denial in here.

>>13539226
So, free food?
What a faggot.

>>13539120
>>BEARS. DON'T. SING. They don't ride motorcycles, they don't juggle fruit, and they don't balance on balls. I swear I hate CoB so goddamn much.

What fucking edition are you playing? Yeah, the Circus And Carnivals splatbook was broken, but a little house-ruling fixes that up.

Take the Bear Cavalry feat. Pretty much impossible to get, unless you are playing a Monty Haul campaign, but if you get that and the Born Free feat? Oh man, fucking unstoppable.

>bohners NABOKOV,
Actually no captcha. Lolita is a fantastic book, especially when you know that English wasn't Nabokov's native language. But it is a frequently uncomfortable read.

Humbert's efforts to enlist the reader to his unreliable narration make him human, but he is still an ass-hat. Not erotic at all, but definitely a must-read.

Bear cavalry is the cancer killing B:tM

>>13539274

Keep in mind the following when playing Grizzlies:

Grizzly bear, grizzly.

>>13539571
You take that shit back.

Sup Gentlements.
I was thinking about rolling a Akakabuto on the next game, what Bear and class combination would fit in this? I know how Bearbarian gives me huge size and resistance to human weapons, but it doesnt really reflect size of his bear arms. Is there better way to do this than just going full build for it?

>>13538568
Why is polar bear smaller then grizzly bear? Grizzly is not the largest bear.

>>13540747

It's brown propaganda.

They are always tryin ta keep the white bears down ya know.

But we have allies.

>>13539226
He's just being a stop having fun guy. And that's bearbaric.

>>13538829
Oh man, I tried playing a Koala with all my points in charisma one time. Couldn't do jack against the eventual kangaroo attack but I was rolling in eucalyptus by that time.

>>13540832

You should try Red Panda next time.

I know they aren't that different from Koalas stat wise but the extra couple of bonus charisma points might make a difference.

>>13538568
first thing that came to my mind

I'm more of a fan of d100 based rules sets but the d10 system of Mountains of Darkness isn't too bad, though there is still the whole new vs old MoD debate.

Why no Brown Bear master race?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-828073110265531460#

Failed a contested bluff check in combat and it cost me my salmon. Don't forget those often overlooked stats!

>>13540936

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n4xXc25wPE

Fucking BM is still upset about that time I ate the last of his berries and now heè set John West against us as our BBEG. Share your John West strategies with me Exstinc/t g/remarctos.

>>13540897
I'm not really sure about Bear Grylls, I mean he is awesome and most of the stuff about the show being "fake" was blown out of proportion. It was ment to be a show about survival tips, not a show about getting the presenter killed, so fudging a few things or having him stay in a hotel/base camp when 1 day in the show took 10 days of filming is kinda understandable.

Still a bit sad that we don't get to see him in an actual life or death situation cause no doubt he would just be even more awesome.

>>13540905
Brown bear and grizzly bears are pretty much the same, just brown bears live nearer the coast. If a brown bear walks inland it becomes a grizzly and vice versa as far as I can tell.

Polar bears really are the master race, but the Kodiak Brown Bear subspecies, though fewer in number is a match for them Polar size wise.

>>13538662
Fucking pandafags dual wielding bamboo sticks. Ruining the fucking game.

>>13541009
I laugh at stuff like when he needs a rope and finds an old ship and there's one miraculously preserved, pristine rope sitting amongst all the rotted ones.

I played a Koala bear, and everybody kept laughing at me as I pumped my STR instead of CHA. And then I took the Drop Bear prestige class, and could ohko any human walking under a tree. Now I'm cornerstone of the party.

Post your weird builds!

It's the third game in a row!

Fuck those "grolar", half grizzly half polar bear DMPCs!

>>13541009
It's an entertainment show first and foremost.

>>13541061
man this shit really pisses me off.

it's not a bear, but everyone insists on tacking that to the end of its name.

I slightly vexed.

Wow, I thought I was the only one using the panda race!

Can you guys help me? My BM is not allowing my training in improved unarmed strike and improved grapple (like, ninja-bear) because my character has apparently become focused on his starting occupation of "food vendor" BEAR POOR BM'ing in my opinion, what can I suggest to convince my party to let me train in unarmed combat?

>>13541105
All bears are trained in unarmed combat.

>>13541111
>>13541105
All bears are naturally proficient with their bear hands.

>>13541105
Just use the prestige class Kung Fu Bear, that lets you convert your CON bonus to STR and DEX bonuses. Food Vendor gives massive base bonus to CON, so you should be well off as a fighter.

Kodiak player here. Damage resistance is awesome. Bulletproof bones FTW.

LOOK AT THIS HAPPY ASS MOTHER FUCKER!

I'M PLAYING A POLAR BEAR IN A NEAR FUTURE CAMPAIGN, THERE'S BASICALLY MORE SEA THAN ICE.

SEALS ARE FUCKING TROLLING THE SHIT OUT OF OUR PARTY!

WE'RE STARVING, GOD DAMNIT!

WELL, FUCK THOSE SMUG ASSHOLES, WE'RE GOING WHERE THE HUMANS LIVE AND TRY TO SCAVENGE SOME LANDFILLS, HOPEFULLY THEY WON'T NOTICE US.

Guys I need help I'm BearMaster for the first time and one player wants to play a Slothbear, I figured no problem but now another player claims Slothbears must roll vs frenzy when they see a human. Player A claims this isn't the case and I don't own the splatbook.

tl:dr - Sloth Bears attack all humans? Y/N

>>13541151

You think you've got it tough?! Try having a weakness to water, fucking BM put a koala, red panda, sugar glider and me in an ARCTIC CAMPAIGN.

on human camps: Wait until dark, find one writing his name in the snow with urine, drag him off into the night. The scent bonus is enough to track down any attempts they'll make to escape.

>>13541189

There isn't a slothbear splatbook AFAIK, but in the B;tM rulebook, page 32 says about slothbears frenzy once per day "at the sight of any non-bear" however the only effect of frenzy is to decrease intelligence by 1, which with the sloth's racial modifier of -8 normally brings the sloth to around 1. It's a broken rule, feel free to houserule it

I played Romanian Bear Trials.....


Foraging was not required - it was just eating up points for me- not enough room you hit a village or a city in every fucking check. go for cities and you have assured calories for grizzlies and Kodiaks... ( sadly unavailable or if you play them you get shot by humans as non - native monster thing)

Stay away from villages, and sheep heards and watch out for hunting seasons ( take the ability : knowledge : signs or Friends : Human foresters). A fucking Rich Fuck organizes a bear-hunt every year for people from all over the world. Got killed by a French Jet engineer with a 50 cal sniper....

Jesus fuck, what is the deal with these little shits? The DM tells me I hear a rustle just when I'm going through the community dumpster, and one of these comes at me like a fucking torpedo. I get to roll a high panic check, which I pass luckily, but then the fucker barks and I have to roll again, and within seconds we're going all yakety sax through the parking lot and back into the woods with this little shit going for my tendons. Karelian bear dogs are fucking hax. Takes an asshole BM to bring them to bear.

>>13541246
there are worse indignities.


I got once fucking caught by trailing entertainers. Made me a fucking dancing bear!!!!!

>>13541264
Well, damn. A fate like that would leave me ursine like a sailor.

>>13541090

I don't think you need to be overly harsh about the poor koala. It like a number of other species are very distant cousins to the more typical bears.

Sure it is up to your group and the BM if you want to restrict at least the Player Bear choice to one of the big 3 but playing something from the extended family can be fun too.

>>13541246

Karelian's are bad but Humans can be so much worse. Everything is in their favour usually, and if you are forced to fight one and win you better have good long distance traveling because those fuckers really vengeful.

After rolling a random Bear I ended up being a mother with 2 cubs, late on in the campaign this human woman falls through the roof of the den just about landing on one of the cubs. As I like to play in character I waved away the BMs offer of an instinctive behaviour check and went apeshite.

3 days later after moving on to find food, BAM, rifle round to the head from a search/destroy party. I never was told what happened to my cubs.

>>13541361


the BM was a dick. If you were playing in Europe or say some distinc parts of america, you can get away with one such shit, if you are a female with cubs....


but the shit you face if you are a male bear or cubless female and try to be more violent. Its more or less certain death... I mean , the fuck. it's like DM's roll a six dicer for females with cubs with one chance of getting shoot, and the others get a secret coin toss an if it's heads ( as in HEADS on a WOOD piece) he gets to decide your death no matter your rolls.
he gets Tails you get to have a fair chance if you win all rolls and checks and are smart about it...

Aye it was a bit of a dick move by the BM. I think I need to try make the point that running pretty much 100% realistic campaigns tends to end badly every time when a conflict with humans are involved.

While a heroic last stand sounds cool, being mercilessly gunned down by some drunk american office workers is just shite, and being executed for what is essentially self defence or just taking a chance to nab some easy food is rubbish.

Once some junkie/mad bastard climbed over the fence in a Bear Rehabilitation Centre two of our Bears were in short term after being injured on a road.

One passed the instinctive behaviour test to not attack, sadly the other didn't. Both bears shot.

>>13541361
Actually, no, the Koala is not a bear at all. It's a marsupial. It's family tree is also not related to bears at all.

So when someone says "koala bear" they're being an idiot and are dead wrong.

>>13542025

Gah I can't believe I forgot that, you are ofcourse quite right.

So you'd have a very strict 3 bear campaign, a more open bears and distant cousins one...or a slightly fantastical "anything that looks kinda like a bear" one.

>>13542085
There are lots of different "true bears", but I don't really mind. I just hate people calling the Koala a bear, when it very much isn;t.

I don't really care that it was included in a B:tM splatbook, as they also included stuff like the Red Panda (also not a true bear and only very distantly related to the Panda).

>>13542025

What's bullshit is that even if you play a female koala, you have to pay points to get a pouch, and then you can get one even long after character creation.

Hey guys, my group and I are trying to do adjust the rules for a WWII campaign. I was going to go with Wojtek, the ammo-carrying, Nazi-eating Syrian bear with the Polish 22nd Artillery (that seriously existed).
I, however, couldn't come up with any ways to represent driving a truck or loading a howitzer with the current rulebook (and there's no way I'm touching Carnival of Bears).Also, some of my group think that due to my bear being Syrian in Poland, I need massive penalties to communicate with the NPC's, but I disagree.
What are your thoughts?

I've never even heard of this game before, but this thread is absolutely hilarious. Keep the anecdotes coming, guys.

>>13542117

Aye the Koala sits okay in the book along side the extinct Arctodus (twice the size of a brown bear), and fictional bears like the drop bear or dire bear.

Man, the BM was such a dick. The party had a character who we thought we could trust, and all of the sudden the BM has him turn on us. I liked that guy, you bastard.

>>13541017
That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Tree Branch" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Bamboo Sticks deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine Bamboo stick in Chinbear for 2,400,000 Berries (that's about 20,000 Salmon) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid rock with my Bamboo stick.

Bearanese smiths spend years working on a single Bamboo stick and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest stick known to mankind.

Bamboo stickss are thrice as sharp as Beraopean sticks and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longbranch can cut through, a bamboo stick can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a bamboo stick could easily bisect a grizzly wearing full fur with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Bearope never bothered conquering Bearpan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samubear and their bamboo sticks of destruction. Even in Grizzly War II, Bearican soldiers targeted the men with the bamboo stickss first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Bamboos are simply the best stick that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Bamboo sticks:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon) 1d12 Damage 19-20 x4 Crit +2 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon) 2d10 Damage 17-20 x4 Crit +5 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the mauling power of Bamboos in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Bamboo sticks need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.

>>13542254

Hi guys, what's going on in this thread?

>Samubear and their bamboo sticks of destruction.

>Grizzly War II

YES

>>13542254
Fucking weeabears. Nobody likes your kind.

Fucking bear jokes

Dear god, I am so sick of skinnies messing with our games by demanding to play as druids who become humans and go around having sex. I don't care what they do in their spare time, but there is no reason to inflict their sick fantasies on the rest of us when we're playing.
If someone in my group brings some "awesome friend who we'll totally like" and then they go into a long character description about how they were found as a cub by humans and raised to live with them, and how they now have a human pet that goes everywhere and sleeps with them, I will fucking lose it.
Pic related; it's a character sketch from one of these skinfags.

>>13542254

I don't know what it is about d20 players that makes them such sticklers for the rules.

Noone I play d10 or d100 with would have a problem with you calling the Tree Branch a Bamboo Stick and having the same stats. Surely that is the common sense solution?

>>13542179

I guess you could just have it as an agility or intelligence test...or perhaps both.

While two tests seems a bit messy you would only need to do the intelligence test the very first time you had to deal with a new vehicle or piece of machinery.

The modifier for the agility test (this would be me looking at it from a d100 perspective) would depend on the size of the vehicles cab and the size of the controls.

For d10 perhaps the BM could increase the number of successful rolls needed to complete the task if faced by a smaller vehicle or more fiddly controls.

Fucking raging against my ST, allowed the "THAT GUY" Panda to play an overpowered homebrew mage class. Which then immediately attacked the rest of our party, We didn't have a chance, especially with the classes ability to paws time.

Bear is a great game, don't get me wrong, but to be honest I have always preferred Crab: The Pinching.

I usually go coconut crab and put max ranks in scuttle to make up for the natural low speed. Coconut crabs are great; they get mad bonuses to intimidation.

Mind you; don't grab a crab character if someone is running a Bear campaign. Holy fuck are bears overpowered compared to crabs. It's better to treat them as separate continuities. Plus, I've had my character eaten by another character THREE TIMES in game. It's no fun, man.

>>13542339
I had a World of Bearcraft fag try to get me to let him play a Panda 'Brewmaster' - some hideously overpowered homebrew class.

Lack of Cybear in this thread is unbearable

>>13542324

That's just creepy.

I don't even know why they would want to cripple their character like that anyway even if it is a Fantasy Bear setting.

Having the power to turn into a slower, weaker, more fragile thing...the only possible advantage would be maybe to sneak past other humans or steal food.

Even those advantages are pretty crap as humans are always killing each other, far more than they kill bears, and in human form you wouldn't be able to eat or carry enough food to make it worth a damn when you switched back to being a bear.

No I wouldn't want one in my group.

The furthest I would go would be a love/friendship can bloom storyline (non sexual) but full on shifting or worse Bearwere/half bears is just not my thing.

Also it is wonderful when you go to archive a thread and find it already archived.

>>13542344
You mean they ate three of your characters or they ate the same character three times?

>>13542384

There sadly doesn't seem to be a massive fan base for either the Scifi or Cyberpunk expantions.

They can be really fun if run properly though.

>>13542407

The second one, actually, since crabs regenerate.

>>13542407
Three separate ones. They seemed to think that having a low forage meant they could eat crab characters whenever they started to starve. I mean, I was all like, "well if you hadn't put all your points in covering half-breed weaknesses you wouldn't be starving, would you?"

And then they ate me. And my two backup characters I had as NPC followers. And then I ragequit.

I mean, it's not like they couldn't eat other bears to prevent starving, but a bear eating another bear is tougher than it's worth. Crabs are just so underpowered by comparison that it's not even worth taking one to a bear game. They can just eat you anytime.

>>13542344
I tried the expansion pack "Shellfish: The shellening" And it was pretty good. I ran a clam and I went around being thrown at seagulls and larger crabs and stuff by the party, Shit was so cash

>>13542389
yeah. but say they play a human straight. you know he has something behind that flat face, and somehow he knows there is understanding between you fur.

but the human should not understand a thing you say, just growling. and you not either.

Say they are foresters, or some hunters that are interested in big game and likes bears....

This way you get those human tool stuff, but you have to take care as other humans might go against you, if your human cant control them, or your human gets mauled by other bears.. or he has to fight and kill humans as they usually do. that is their past time, so you have to take some care.

this way no fukken skinny faggotry...

>>13542461
Dude, shellfish is so boring. I mean all the fluff is just about you sitting there, while whining to other shellfish that you're going to get eaten by everything. And then you do.

It's such a fucking emo game. Fuck that bullshit.

>>13542458

Well they could be a bit more compatable with some of the smaller cousins.

But yeah against the big boys there isn't much a crab can hope for other than the bear being full already or not really feeling like crab.

>>13542324
You think that's bad ? During my highschool days there was only one guy in the whole country willing to BM this game, and not only did he center his campaign around his unique (as in, the same in every campaign) DMPC, but he made it a fucking (as in, literally) OWLBEAR.

I heard later that one time he showed his feathersuit to the girl of the group. Terrible.

>>13542469
It is pretty boring, emo supplement. But if you put all your points in Shell and have a bro willing to tote you around it's great fun.

>>13542461
The Shellening is so broken
1: roll an oyster
2: ingest a sand grain
3: swirl it around for a while
4: shit out a pearl, sell it
5: PROFIT
While most of our players are interested in actually exploring the available scenarios, there's always one or two faggots who decide to attach to the first rock they find, be a virtual gold mine for three sessions, and then outfit themselves in the most insane shell-augments and tongue weapons they can find, ruining it for everyone else who hasn't been min-maxing the whole time

>>13542461
Shellfish do get some weird bonuses though. I mean, "Unclean: Protect from Bear Jews"? When the hell has that ever been useful? I have only ONCE ever even seen someone roll up a bear jew.

>>13542500
fucking loot whores

same shit happens every time our BM only mentions a bee hive. Fuck the plot, let's gather some honey-money

>>13542485
it could be worse. For graduation, 3 of my class shaved off their fur "to show solidarity for lost and abused humans on the streets who are systematically exterminated in poorly funded pounds." It was total salmonshit; everyone knew they got together to "make love," or whatever the skinfags euphemism for mating is. They just wanted an excuse to have a permanent skinsuit.
Joke's on them when they freeze to death in the winter.

>>13542344
How is Crab for nautical campaigns?
I used to play Shark: The Devouring with my old group and I really digged the setting but the mechanics felt really clumsy and you almost never got any real combat challenges besides dolphins and whales. (humans turned out only to be hard when you don't know what you're doing you just need a little patience and strategy)

>>13542468

Yeah it does have to be played very carefully not to cross any lines.

And it should certainly only be a rare exception, if it starts becoming over used it's time to kill off the human ally for the good of the story...perhaps even move to a human free area.

Certainly you need to trust/know the group well, so there are no skinnies...or atleast not full blown obsessive ones which will keep trying to bend the story round their own sick fantasies either in how their bear acts around the human or possible worse if they are the human.

>>13542529
Crab's nautical setting and rules are all good and fun. But it really shines in beach settings.

>>13542541
Playing a human you will need to do some sick shit man. I mean, they have al those mental problems and constant masturbation and sex craving coupled with bloodlust... so It's going to be pretty psycho playing it. just have it played by a normal one and no skinnyshit , so that he can act wierded out if bears watch him. so BM's tend to be careful about this one.

problem are skinfags that play bears in such games. I mean ... they will do weird sexual advances, that a human killing machine would see as provocations or preparations for attack.... they are really small for all that power and don't understand grand gestures of attraction... but skinnies just act out on their fantasy and misunderstand all humans.

any whoo, you need to keep them in check. and if you play as the human you can always go for their firestick, shoot the skinny and say you misunderstood the gesture and thought he's attacking you...

>>13542529
You know, humans used to be really good enemies, not this skinfag fetish bullshit. One could kill an entire party with a gun, and your next character might find the same hunter in a bear fur suit. That shit was badass.

I mean, sharks had it easier, but even they have a tough time against diving humans with harpoon guns.

And don't even get me started on crabs. Oh lords of the deep, the massacre. They'd eat whole civilizations.

But then they rolled back the tech level of the humans to compensate and gave them a bunch of bullshit sympathetic fluff, and introduced people like werebears and druids.

The stupid skinfaggotry that spawned was just absurd. Now I just want to rip out the BM's eyes if we see a human.

>>13542610
Ugh. Don't even get me started on the Druids. If I see one more "all humans are evil and I decided to become a bear to live up my noble differences" type character there will be serious mauling at the gaming table.

>>13542610
there was bawing that there were to many humans and BM's always made them the strong kind not the running away kind...

that and some really sickos wanted the run away kind to be a sort of fuck toy thing so the skinfaggotry and pussyfications of humans in B:tM began as Bat Bard started doing the 5th ed...

>>13542643
In the earlier editions i was using humans to save points not invested in forage skill. I was going up to them, have me chase ( I had full endurance and running so if they had no wheelers I could keep my distance) then lead them to a wolf pack or something...

I was hiding in a tree. humans ( usualy two ) killed lots of wolfes took some skins and teeth, and left...


presto insta food for the entire winter and no competition in spring.


Now... now I am afraid it is going to be , we are one with the woods... we will not harm any creature bullshit...

Moving away from the skinnies a bit, that is a path down which only rage lies, what do you guys tend to focus on when it comes to getting food.

Generally speaking in the past I've always played a flat out tracker/hunter, going after deer, moose, or seals if it is a polar setting.

One thing I have noticed though is that as fun as the chase and kill is it does bring a lot more dangers of injury compared to the alternatives.

Scavengers with high level intimidate and smell still run a bit of a risk if there are other animals feeding on the kill. Though the actual intimidation and possibility of a fight does make it a very tense entertaining path.

Fishing can be a little boring but the related skills like improved swimming can be life savers in some situations.

Gatherers, or full on Herbivores, are probably the most boring, woo eating plants and insects, though again improved climbing and digging can be useful in the right situations.

A propper Omnivore build does sound very tempting though. A mix of plant knowledge, urban/human knowledge and a little bit of scavenging give a lot of options if food gets short, though you won't be as good at any one method as a focused Bear.

Scavenging without the intimidation power of a focused Scavenger is a bit more risky, adding more tention and danger, but generally you can always back down if you need to.

The urban/human knowledge can bring great rewards of easy food but the dangers are rediculously high as I'm sure everyone knows, still it could lead to perhaps the best stories of them all.

>>13542775
I run human knowledge..

wanted to do something like this
>>13542677 but lacked enough tracking to find anything, so I learned that keeping at the edge and not breaking anything in , except the metal or plastic cylinders caries the least penalties. You have to watch out for humans with fire sticks /sleep sticks, or with shining rope sticks that try to grapple at your neck and the large dogs.

of course you bear a hard time when you get onto the mating season , if you run into purists, but the ease of food lets me run a monster brow bear that could pose for a average grizzly...

An if I get them near humans no bear can touch me with all the controlled instinct bonuses if I don't let them

of course changing the humans or going to a diffrent place is the most hazardous as I am not optimized for woods or swiming and when you get there , you need to work on adapting to the humans from the start... as they are like jumpy catnip drugged squirrels and not your average habitat...

but all those bonuses and calories....

never change /tg/, never change

an I the only person playing a Pooh-bear on here, shits so cash, the massive bonus on honey collecting gets our black bear so jelous

>>13538568
is this a real game or are you all bullsitting because that sounds fuckign hilarious

Not sure if my BM is doing it right. I don't own a copy of BtM, but I am pretty sure my Panda shouldn't have an Iajutsu skill. what do?

>>13538653

What's the stat difference between Kodiak, Brown and Grizzlies? They're all the same aren't they??


Can anyone stat out Knut and Woltek? What alignment would Knut be? He's usually so friendly but then he killed those fish so a lot of people are saying he should be CN.

>>13543412
maby, does your panda have a sword?

>>13541151
Just returned from our last session.

Looks like our party's bad luck is over.

We found WALRUSES!

BIG FAT DELICIOUS WALRUSES ALL OVER THE PLACE OMG!

They did put up a good fight, as they never surrender their Elders and Calves easily.

Therefore, I got a fully grown Alpha Bull Walrus all for myself.

Seems like the plan is nothing but OM NOM NOM for the whole day.

I know they're not from the core book, but I like Spectacled Bears. Some say they're underpowered. While they are awful in combat their sight is invaluable in a group of large powerful bears, imo. They just have more skills and utility.

Take polar bears for example. Great in a fight... not so great when trying to hide in a non-snowy environment. ...Don't even get me started on pandas. Sure they have more charisma than SB's but that's about it.


Oh, and koalas would be so bad. Even stricter diet than pandas? Yea, that won't cause problems for the party.

>>13543561
nice, american or russian walrusses, apperntly american walruses have a 3% chance of being toxic, watch out

MCGINNIS, GET OUT OF THERE!

>>13543572

>Koalas

NOT a fucking BEAR

>>13543588
>american walruses have a 3% chance of being toxic, watch out
What?

There's no mention of this fact on the Monster Manual.

BTW they were Russians, judging by their accent.

>>13543561

Nice! You don't really need the whole pack of them, one can last the whole party a while. But more is always better. :)

Last time I played the BM threw a tiger at us. Such a broken monster.

I'm thinking of having my female grizzly mate with a male in the party so I can take the Mama Grizzly feat, but I'm not sure if it's worth the time and/or drama- plus the party might kill my cubs. Thoughts?

Polar bear player here, weather effects kept fucking up my hibernation attempts and ice fishing so I walked too far along the border, scared some humans then they mauled me to death.

Was pretty lol actually.

Captcha: Bear Loalen

omg captcha stop stalking me!

>yfw da bears win da supurb owl

Bears win superb owl?

do owlbears count as bears or bear hybrids? gonna ask my BM if I can play one.

>>13543668

your bm sounds like a dick, he should stop rail roading humans into your campaigns.

> yfw tha bears win the super bowl

Bears suck.

>>13543690

Owlbears are for bears what furries are for humans.


I mean skinnies is like those that wana fuck creepy bald guys with anorexia that have a really bad case of mad and own nukes...


but those sick feather freaks.... with all their speshull.... half this half that magic fightan powers

>>13543707

yeah, I hate it when BMs do that, you should always ask your bears what kind of campaign they want to play. Personally, I enjoy bear versus environment scenario, no humans what so ever, they're so op too.

>>13543733
And that is why I play a Gobi bear. rare and bad ass enough to live in the fucking Gobi desert.

>>13543653
american prey rules in the BM's pawbook, varinig chances of toxicity for various creatures, he's not meant to tell you until the effects would come into playt

It took some convincing, some rule-stretching, and a hellacious amount of role-playing to explain it, but eventually I was allowed into the prestige class.

>>13543743

I always wanted to play a South American campaign, but then you either have to explain why everyone is there or play native bears- which are, of course, few and far between. Still, so many cool creatures you never get to fight.

Then again you can just allow people to play as monster races. It's not really B:tM but now and then it can be a nice break from the old Russia/Canada cliché settings.

Captcha disagrees. >Northern pilmat

>>13543785

Yeah our last campaign we had some weeaboo faggot asking if he could play a monster race, he picked a tiger.

I don't even think a tiger could live in the Canadian Wilderness climate....

>>13543806

They live in siberia so they'd survive but you'd have to explain WHY it was there, imo.

Why not just pick mountain lion or something? If you're going to play a non-bear imo you have to have it make sense. You wouldn't see an eagle riding around with a bunch of bears, but maybe idk a vulture would make sense (if climate was ok)

>>13543806
Some are as far north as Siberia. Trust me he still would have been better of playing an Arctodus

Holy shit! This Bear game can't be real. Can it? Somebody post a link proving its existence!

I can only pray that this is one big joke... The only thing keeping me from googling "Bear: the Mauling" is the knowledge that I'd have to look myself in the mirror afterwards...
What's sad is I'd actually really enjoy playing this... an epic campaign taking you from cub to fully-grown master-of-the-wood bear...

This needs to get archived, I haven't seen a Crab thread in forever.

Pic related, My character that ruined FOUR family vacations before some hippies tossed him in a pot. Fucking blue crabs, amirite?

Bear: The Mauling was here.

Bunnies & Burrows is for faggots.

This thread needs to be up on 1d4chan

>>13543888

Crabs suck.

>Archived. http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/13538568/

Eh, last time our BM made us a one shot, we were a party of animated gummibärchen.

A good time was had, but it wasn't a good idea to use real ones as miniatures.

>>13538653
>Kodiak
>Ursus Arctos Middendorffi
>dorf

>awesome.tiff

/r/ing the PDF of Drunken Bear Fighter.

>>13543873

I don't have PDF only irl hardcover but here is some art from the book

pic related- species you can play as

>>13543886
You can do this in D&D...

Oh my god, I am in a Artic campaign, and the humans.. they have some sort of iron whale! It just came up through the ice, and they have strange machines, its making noise what do I do what do I do?

So I heard about a supplement made by a board community, and I'm pretty intrigued by it. Replace your claw with hoof and no bite. Heavy reductions in fur bonuses but no hibernation limitations. Shit it weak compared to the core, but it could be fun?

>>13543956
if you get instinct: run away you can live it out...

getting a instinct : attack threat roll will get you a TPK

>>13543956

Just avoid it. It's dangerous but it can't follow you onto ice/land and it usually leaves Bears alone.

>>13543960
wtf
please tell me they didn't remove mauling

>>13543920

The hell you mean crabs suck? Crabs can do damn near anything, not like those one trick ponies mantis shrimp!
Crabs are the face of the party, they get shit done, and even if you get killed, there's a 20% chance you kill the guy that ate you because of the 'Shellfish Allergy' revenge rule.
While your running around, being a badass, cutting off toes, that retarded shrimp is just floating around with his claws up his cloaca.

Don't tell me crabs suck.

>>13543561
You think you're lucky?

My dinner is going to be A FUCKING WHALE.

>>13543956
Just GTFO, that thing is obviously scaring all potential prey away.

>>13543960

I'm ok with supplements but that sounds homebrew to me, and not in the good way.

Besides wouldn't you have to GRAZE? That's just awful. You'd seriously be a problem for your party. Most B:tM campaigns don't give much time for that, and they take place in snowy areas where you wouldn't even survive.

Maybe if you were an elk, moose, deer etc, and the party agreed to all play a herd... that'd work.

>>13544006
>GRAZE
Whoa whoa whoa, wait, since when does BtM feature vegetarians?

Besides those Panda pussies, I mean.

>>13543985

Look, Shellfish is a decent game for a one-shot now and then but nobody would seriously run a campaign in it. That's what Bear is for.

>>13544022

It's in like a web enhancement bullshit, I don't even know if it's legit. Basically if you're playing an omnivore you can graze on grass to supplement your diet. But it's only for hard times, just to get by you know? It's not meant to be a serious source of food! But non-bears sometimes have to do it full-time, so that's why players should have to stick to core (or at least play something that works well with bears.)

>>13544022
Fuck you. You don't know how to play a bear if you can't appreciate honey and berries.

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>>13544006
Well they also made up the American Northwest Campaign Setting for all the homebrew. Not alot of cold, lots of grass. Like, grass is seriously easy to come by all the time.

>>13544044
That's not grazing, you fool.

>>13544142

It is if you're in the produce section.

:3

>>13542610
My group got used to humans always being pussies that ran away immediately or died from a single mauling. Then one of the other players asked to run a one-shot, and that's when the problems started.

The big bad was a human hunter, killing bears for sport. We ended up attacking him in his lair. We made sure to kill all of his guard dogs, traitors to animalkind that they were. But when we finally meet this hunter in his den, you wouldn't believe it: a stuffed bear head on the wall, and a bear-fur rug in front of the fire. It was satisfying to maul that guy, but we all urged the BM to get some psychiatric help.

Wait, what book had cybernetics for bears? I was thinking about running a transbearist campaign

Bump

>>13544574
That is sick. I once had a BM that only had a bear-skin rug in a BBEG's layer and we thought it was the most depraved a person could get. He was a dick though anyway.

>>13545076
Ironically it's in the Bear: Transbearity supplement. 3rd party though.

>>13545076

Well I can think of two good choices depending on what style you want.

Bear: Mauling of the Stars (I think that was it) is a more straight Sci Fi campaign book but there are rules for enchancements or full on robotic bears.

CyberUrsus 3030 on the other hand is a bit darker and more chaotic, enchancements tend to be a little cruder unless you get very lucky, but crude doesn't mean bad.

>>13538568
>Bear: The Mauling

Why are White Wolf-styled titles so fucking funny?

>>13546255
Oh god. CyberUrsus has been ruined for me ever since I read about the TitanoMauler augmentation. That shit goes beyond the realm of fucking bananas.

>>13546294
Because they lend themselves so well to parody. It's an easy formula, <Noun>: The <Verb>ing. The funnier the verb, the funnier the name. I wouldn't mind seeing a thread for Snake: The Biting. But biting isn't as funny as mauling. Also, /tg/ really has a thing for bears.

>>13546301
>fucking bananas
What, there are monkeys in that shit?

>>13544574
At least yours was better than mine. I had a BM that had a BMNPC HUMAN that kept fucking ambushing the group whenever we would deviate from what he had planned for the session. With a knife. Whenever we tried to maul him, even if we prepared, he would just pull out some bullshit can of bear bear mace, spray it at us (which caused temporary blinding for about 6 hours and we were stunned for a couple of minutes) and run away after throwing rocks at us when we were blinded and stunned. It was fucking bullshit and the BM was a passive-aggressive skinny-lover.

>>13546400
Yep. Monkey : The Spanking.

Once you find the right group, you won't play anything else.

Playing historical campaigns has already been mentioned a little >>13542179 with Wojtek from WW2.

How about going back a little further...or a lot further...

Ice Age campaigns anyone? Certainly humans would be a lot easier to make use of, sure they have tools but nothing like the rediculous auto-win buttons they have in modern campaigns.

And with there being a lot more wilderness in the world back then far more places to explore...even if a lot of it is snow.

>>13546470

I always felt that Monkey: The Falling sounded more entertainin, but Monkey does, for obvious reasons, tend to attract more skinnies, they can do more human stuff yet still claim to be in character.

>>13546400
>>13546470
>>13546577
Monkey's for casuals

Last time we played, we left off at a fat camp. Fucking. Yes. I'm so stoked for our next session!

bears

>thread is still here

>>13546670
Is that from the Bear: Ascension handbook? Did that drop already?

>>13546670
I want to play as this.

Someone kill this thread. It is no longer funny.

>>13546670
>Bear
>Maul
DOHOHO

>>13546255
Oh hell yeah! I've been wanting to roll a Strana Mechty Ghost Bear for AGES!

>>13546594
You don't want straight Monkey- you want to play the Chimpazee supplement. It's a giant FUCK YOU to the skinnies- if you're playing it straight, you basically jump around eating other monkeys and trying to kill off rival troops.

>>13547027
Grimdark Monkey supplement? Fuck yes.

ugh, when we played this at my school group the emo faggots rolled up Bear Force One without knowing it

they didn't understand what "bear" meant
however the guy who wanted to roll up a Water Bear was perfectly understandably confused

>>13546707
This thread was supposed to be funny?...noone told me... Don't B:tM players have just as much right to /tg/ as DnD or 40kids?

>>13547086
I'm not sure if I understand you 100%...but if you are saying what I think you are saying that is pretty damn horrific.

What is it with those messed up freaks using the glorious Bear name for such bullshite?


Aaanyway I'd rather not think about that.

I've been wanting to run a story with WarBear Fantasy RP for some time. Naturally a lot of people look to The Goldan Compass/Northern Lights for their armoured Bear needs but that is a little over done. Still a good place to get some ideas though and use the less overused aspects of it.

There are some other good sources of Bear armour, but usually in setting where Bears have been reduced to nothing more than large horses which is a total disgrace if you ask me.

>>13546693
Nah, it's preview artwork. Which is strange because the book isn't supposed to drop for at least another three months.

>>13549031
It's always "three months" away, isn't it?

>>13549271

Well depending on the weather the hibernation period can last anywhere from 3 to 6 months.

>>13547027
That one was awesome. I loved beating the liquid shit out of everything with a stick.
Barbearians are weak sauce compared to chimpanzees.

>>13538584

think "the ant and the grasshopper" but with teeth.

i wish i knew how to archive other wise i wouldn't have to BEG and say ARCHIVE THIS SHIT NOW.

I ran this scenario on some Skinnies. Oh man, the BroBear I had playing the murderer and I are still laughing.