The GM will meet this with harsh resistance. He will no doubt send many mooks and monsters in the DnD game to try and stop the Shadowrun game we've crafted with the BBEG before we can successfully implant the idea. The rogue will need to do all he can to keep the game running. Luckily we've calculated the time it takes to have events progress in games, between PC's being unsure what to do, making jokes, ordering pizza and asking for Cheetos. We've calculated that 5 minutes within the game is about 1 hour outside of it. Meaning within the Shadowrun game, we'll easily have a few days to accomplish this goal.

Once we have the digital tabletop game initiated within the Shadowrun game. We'll be able to get to the 3rd and final layer. Dark Heresy, where the Fighter will take over as the master of that game and set us up with the idea that the DM's game is crap and he needs to stop throwing us into a bunch of shitty railroaded encounters for his stupid GMC's to come save us. As long as nothing goes wrong, we think this will work.

I laughed.

You need to go deeper.

...

My mind is full of billions and billions of fuck.

That is so fuckingn awesome i wish i was in your gaming group.
Possibly the most fun idea ever explored within the confines of movie parodies in DnD

Nice idea, but you will fail on step 1: convince BBEG to play with you. Wizards have huge Will Saves, and even if he botches his, the DM will just tell you that the BBEG manages to resist the urge.

Why not simply tell your DM what your problem is, since everybody seems to hate his GMing style?

And still, a very nice idea.

It won't be enough. You need to go deeper.

>>14283380

I've only gone deeper once. There I found the edge of imagination and acting. Me and my girlfriend wound up there once... designing our own world. Creating our own characters and our own lives there... we lived in that world for years. Imagining and role playing as all sorts of characters... yet she put something there. Hiding it away forever.

After a while... I couldn't live there anymore... so I implanted a simple idea into her head. That she was an overweight 24 year old who couldn't get into college, who wasn't a vampire, didn't have any special powers, and the only reason she had me was because I was just as pathetic and lonely as she was.

She killed herself soon after... in hindsight I probably should have seen it coming.

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>>14283406

The wizard's will means little to us. Our GM may be a bullshitting railroader but he recognizes a bad roll when he sees it. And as it would be, I constructed a d20 that only I know the exact weight and balance of. And should it ever be rolled by someone who is not me, it will automatically roll a 1.

He'll have to go along with it, less he instantly start a justifiable shitstorm from all of us.

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>>14283412

Also, good work OP I am entertained

>this thread

You need sedatives to calm your GM down so he doesn't throw a fit?

Half of this idea (at least the half I bothered to read) sounds like it was mostly—if not wholly—"inspired" by this XKCD comic.

>>14283457
>Inception Movie Poster
>Inception Promotional Image
>XKCD inspiration

...no.

>>14283457
No.

BECAUSE FUCK YOU, XKCD IS NOT WHERE EVERY IDEA COMES FROM. THAT'S LIKE THAT SHIT WITH THE '40k ripped of Starcraft' AND SHIT.

FUCK.

YOU.

>>14283457
Trollin', I see.
How is being a troll on 4chan working out for you?

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>>14283364

Nicely done...

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>>14283364
Are you insane if you go to deep into a game you may lose track of whats real, you even risk never coming out again. Do you really want to risk being trapped in a gaming limbo with a shitty GM?

>>14283481
It is a rick OP has to take.
If he doesn't get out of this, how will he ever see his kids again?

>>14283466
pshhhh, they ripped off each other. 40K had spehss muhreens v. aliens in a strategic setting first, Blizzard put it in vidya and gave it a facelift and then GW said "oh shit these guys look pretty cool" and borrowed from Starcraft. All one big happy family, when they're not suing each other.

>>14283494
Yeah OP, take that rick!

OP, you need to go deeper. Once inside Dark Heresy, the PCs need to become dissatisfied with being the errand boys (and girls) of an inquisitor. They need to dream of bigger things, of adventure and fantastical xenos and psykers that don't go insane. They take out a few data slates, the tech-priest rigs up a random-number-generator, and they play D&D.

>>14283468
Apparently, it's not going very well.
Still, if the OP actually tries to implement this idea, the DM can just 'Rule 0' the players' convoluted plan out of existence.

Because... y'know, he's still the fucking DM.

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>>14283503
You...you've created an infinite recursion loop.

MY GOD.

>>14283503
Gaming that loops back in on itself? Is that even safe?
We really should be thinking of the consequences here.
Saito's character is already in negative hitpoints on the first level. Why are we taking so many risks like this?

>>14283481

It's the only way for me to get back to my favourite game shop. Ever since me and my girlfriend played there for a 3 day gaming session where we mostly ero-RP'd the owner won't let me back in.

He says he will let me back in if I can convince my GM that his game is shit. Because he keeps driving off potential new customers with his stupid plots and because he won't let anyone else GM. He won't play any game he isn't running and he derails the plot of any other person trying to GM. We need to tell him right now, that he's a bad GM and he needs to quit his shit.

>>14283503
Wouldn't that end up creating a time loop where one round on the outside means ∞ rounds on the inside?

The entire loop would entropy to death by the time the first dice roll was calculated.

>>14283503
Congratulations. You've theorized the Inception equivalent of dividing by zero.

I seem to have found an unfortunate snag in your plan. Shadowrun is inherently shit. Might I sugest replacing it with Mutants and Masterminds? Or paranoia, or would that work better as a deeper layer.

Yeah. Everyone knows Inception stole the idea from that one issue of Scrooge McDuck.

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/03/inception-ripped-off.html

>>14283517
No,eventually the recursion loop would grow so large and the strain of maintaining all the different levels would get so big that the entire structure would collapse in on itself and the players IRL would get bored and go play Call of Duty.

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>>14283520

As I said before. If we went deeper we'd find ourselves at the singularity of role playing. The shore of our subconscious imagination known only as... freeforming.

>>14283533
>The shore of our subconscious imagination known only as... freeforming.

YOU'RE GOING TOO DEEP MAN, TOO DEEP

WE NEED TO STOP

>>14283545
I've freeformed a lot of times.

It's pretty meh.

>>14283545
Oh it's far too late for that. Freeforming is the bottom, the lowest you can get. A minute on the outside is years down there, you can get trapped just creating and playing with no reason or structure for decades.

>>14283557
You were doing it wrong.

>>14283557
oh hey, i rmember you, did you make your sentry gunning archer mage yet?

>>14283559
WE NEED THE DROP

NOW

>>14283562
Really? You know what I was doing? How I was playing? What, have you been spying on me?

No, really, have you? WHO TOLD YOU WHERE I LIVE?

>>14283564
Yeah, we ended up switching the system to GURPS though.

>>14283573
That guy. Who does the stuff. You know, the one with the hat. And the shoes.

>>14283568
Its cool, I ordered pizza, garenteed 30 minutes or less. When the door bell rings, everything will be trigered

>>14283573
You did.

>>14283582
ROBERT!

I should never have let him live in Cuba.

>>14283568

The drop itself is simple. We know the game will end once my parents get home after their trip to the relatives.

As such we're all psychologically told to get out of the roleplaying once a car drives into the parking lot and we hear a car horn. We can come out of the RPG's, only when we hear a suitable car horn.

>>14283583

Or that works too.

>this thread
MY BRAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNN!

OP here. I'm going to bed.

Keep this thread alive until tomorrow for me ok?

>>14283638
It's already been archived. Genius like this doesn't come around too often, not even on /tg/.

>>14283360
Guys...what happens if he doesn't accept the campaign?
We could even have a case where his NPC's end up in the other campaigns attempting to derail it.

>>14283533

Let me tell you a riddle, OP. You're waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don't know for sure. But it doesn't matter. How can it not matter to you where that train will take you?

>>14283692
Because you won't need to reroll new characters.

>>14283661
Then we roll for initiative.

>>14283638

Ok, now who's up for Baron Munchausen Storytelling RPG? :D

But what do you use as kicks in RPGs?

TPK?

>>14283692

I hate it when the GM railroads us...

>>14283661 So, now we're trapped in the DM's mind battling his own private army, and if we get killed, we'll be stuck playing Wisher, Theurgist, Fatalist till our brains turn to scrambled egg.

Colour me massively surprised that nobody has so far said...

YOU GUYS. WE'RE STILL INSIDE THE GAME.

>>14283800
Bloody boring game, if you ask me.

>>14283805
That's how I knew, man. My real life is full of hot guitar-playing girls riding rocketships past exploding stars. Also alligators. Lots of alligators.

>>14283360
Inception was a crappy movie.

However, your thread was well thought out and cleverly executed.

Kudos, dear Anon.

>>14283813
Oh and in real life, I never get doubles.

>>14283813
Rolled a Ld test to check.

Yeah, we're still in the game, I never make rolls this good in reality.

>>14283878
Fuck, forgot my image.

Looks like OP didn't get his kick.

How would you play Inception? What system would /tg/ use?

>>14285406
A different one for each layer.

Though Shadowrun does seem like a setting where it'd actually fit, Inception is pretty cyberpunk.

>What system would /tg/ use?

they would mangle Dark Heresy. /tg/ fukin loevs DH.

>How would you play Inception?

I'm not sure it would be a good game except for a one-shot. it seems too limited a scope.

>>14285444
And the top layer? GURPS or D&D modern?

The old king of one of the mightiest empires in the world is dying, and the throne is to be succeeded by his only son- an estranged prince who has not seen his father in many years and is not on good terms. The world is in uncertain times, as the empire seems to be growing too large for its own good, and already showing the signs of inevitable corruption and decay that its size will only exacerbate.

In a far away land, an agent of one of the empire's greatest rival kingdom seeks out the world's most skilled Dreamwalker, banished for the murder of his wife that he did not commit, or so he swears. This agent gives him a mission- use the outlawed magic of Dreamwalking to convince the prince to break up the empire's provinces into independent states, while reconciling at last with his father even after the king dies.

>>14285450
The 'reality' layer doesn't use a system at all but is freeform 'realistic' RP, and use of violence isn't recommended when the goal is to get into the dream.

>>14285468
The Dreamwalker, wishing to return to his children, agrees, but he cannot work alone. To utilise the magic of Dreams, he must find a fey-taught Seer to allow him and his allies to access the world of the sleeping soul, a Dreamweaver to create the worlds which they shall venture into, and other allies such as a rogue trickster who is at home in a world of lies and illusions.

Together, they must find the crown prince and infiltrate his very dreams, intruding onto a landscape that is more beautiful and dangerous than the mightiest dragon's lair.

What, nobody proposes Unknown Armies? I'd do it myself but I'm writing a final.

>>14285473
Oneshot? More like a fourshot. So freeform is the top layer, followed by three licensed systems.

Hmmm.

It would be easiest to just use GURPS, but that takes away the feel. Different systems would add to the setting, with the only problem being that the players would need to make 3 char sheets each.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkvNmb9tMII&feature=related

>>14283455
let him have his fit
it's online anyway
the worst thing he can do is ragequit

if it self-destructs, at least they now they'll have two other games to play.

I am now running an Inception game.

Game has VR.

Seed it DEEP SON.

Someone needs to slide this onto the table at some point, and everyone else needs to pull out Magic decks.

So...

real world = freeform
levels = Dark Heresy, GURPS, Shadowrun?

>>14286468

It's kind of weird how that works.

On the first level, things can go however they want, but as you go deeper, you are subjected to newer and sometimes more complicated rules. It's kind of like the opposite of JAGS Wonderland.

I like it.

>>14286503
And CoC for the deepest level?

>>14286512

The obvious joke would be FATAL (Or Rolemaster if you actually wanted a good game with complexity)

I think with this sort of concept, choosing which games would be the layers would also tie into the theme. Having CoC at the bottom implies some terrifying things, especially if you wanted to heavily base things off Inception. Like, at the CoC layer, you're all in the Dreamlands. Hope you've cut some deals.

>>14286512

>plan goes awry
>guy gets trapped in CoC for his entire lifetime

You need to make the recursive loops go longer so that they have less chance of noticing they aren't out of the loop.
1st loop: DnD, Shadowrun, Dark Heresy ->
2nd loop: Warhammer Fantasy, Dnd, D20 Modern, Shadowrun, Dark Heresy, Traveller ->
3rd loop: Conan D20, Warhammer Fantasy, Dnd, D20 Modern, Unknown Armies, Shadowrun, Battletech RPG, Dark Heresy, Traveller

>>14286606
Good in theory, but who's going to make that many character sheets?

Unless the GM does all of them, and just hands them out...

>>14286632
>Good in theory, but who's going to make that many character sheets?

The same kind of person who would play recursive rpgs.

>sequence andsyl
Apparently captcha is quite aware of this phenomenon.

>>14286672
Well, the point is to have a general appeal, that would work with a pick-up group at the FLGS or IRC.

Maybe make a pool of characters, and have the players pick one? Eight or nine concepts, then stat them as needed...

>ctilfai defining

Dreaming about dreams, eh?

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>>14286512
Yes, YESSSSSSS!

Here's my idea: each setting has a slightly modified aspect in common.

The players pick a concept, then roll on a table two or three times. The table has both beneficial quirks, and counterproductive quirks. (Mal-esque issues, talent for certain aspects of dream modification, changing appearance...)

Each player has at least 1 good or 1 bad quirk and no more than one major positive.

Adds a little flavor to each level under the real world.

>>14286750
In the dream thread that was posted last night I expressed my desire to make a game called Jungeons & Dragons. It would be a Paprika/Psychonauts themed dungeon crawler.

I don't have any bad Freud puns, though.

We have to go deeper.

>>14287030
The ultimate Freud pun.

>>14287030
Also:

>>14287317
So, 'deeper', you say?

>>14287364
Yes. Also, I want a banana very badly.

ITT: Ways to vary Inception from the movie plot.

We've seen extraction, and insertion, but what about other uses? What about waking up coma patients, or treating mental disorders? What about children? Of course, the patients would probably have someone wealthy interested in them, for good or for ill. Royalty?

/tg/ - Brilliant Bastards

Anyone interested in writing up modifier tables? Things to make it Inception instead of "string of settings and characters lol".

>>14283503

Nah that'll never work, it breaks the 3rd Law of RPG Recursion: For every RPG loop there is at least 1 eroRPG layer, which may be MaidRPG but only if all the characters are lesbian catgirls who are constantly in heat. If MaidRPG isn't the eroRPG layer, then it must be encountered before the eroRPG layer, but then it has no restrictions on content.

>>14286541
>>14286512

There can't be a deepest level, the whole thing is a loop. However, it is possible that elements from one layer start bleeding into others, if the loop exists for too long. It's why larger loops are purely theoretical; they quickly devolve into one giant mess, with lesbian catgirl techpriests running through the streets of Shibuya (which is somehow inside the Submachine network) being chased by Cthulhu empowered Taboo Noise, warforged and giant robots trying to mate, and Commissars trying to execute wizards in Evas, all ruled over by a council of sparkly vampires led by half-spaceship Albert Wesker.

>>14287403
I think coma patients would go badly. If the brains awake yet trapped in the body the subconscious is going to be much more aware of whats going, and will attack earlier and harder.
But thats just part of the challenge.

>>14287715
Yes, but that's part of the point. Objects don't follow the same rules as in normal patients, everything's somewhat dated, the people all seem to be either dead-eyed or screaming for help...

Combine with child for hilarity.

>>14287743
So, a sort of zombie scenario? Except the zombies are screaming for you to help them, and are partially aware of what has happened?
See, this is why I prefer the Life On Mars idea

>>14287806
Child would be even worse. Can you say fears of abandonment? Resentment of parents? Hate of bullies?

That would translate into unpleasantness. Bullies as giant, shadowy figures more than capable of putting a hole in someone with a fist? Not fun. (At least for the PCs...)

Cue the "BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANTH" music cue.

Also, someone make Inception Wizard:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLDSE7RHvno

>>14289738
>PC puts on a robe and wizard hat in the dream
>dreamer is very confused

What if the party had contradicting goals/loyalties? How would that effect the session?

>>14292079

Nothing will go wrong... unless... my girlfriend shows up as an NPC again.

>>14292079
Run the dream sequences in a game like FATE where the players have some narrative control.

At the lowest level, right before everyone dissolves into orange Tang, you break out Universalis.

We must establish multi-layer combat and how to resolve them while keeping with the 5 minutes = 1 hour time rule intact.

someone needs to color this

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