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    30 KB Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:05 No.14422537  
    For reasons beyond our understanding, the Goblet of Fire has chosen YOU to participate in the Triwizard Tournament.

    Now of course because you possess no magical abilities of your own whatsoever (*snort!*), the Ministry has decided that you may be allowed any number of "muggle contraptions" to aid your efforts in the trials to come... for all the good it will avail you against the powers of the arcane.

    So choose wisely, mudblood. For you are meddling with forces far beyond your narrow comprehension.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:07 No.14422549
    I bring my gun, my speargun, scuba gear, and a compass.

    fuck the triwizard tournament.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:08 No.14422554
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    Let's do this.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:08 No.14422558
    A personal anti-magic field.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:09 No.14422565
    Well, I own a handgun and a shotgun.
    That will take me far.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:09 No.14422567
    I walk into the school with an automatic weapon and a mirror.

    GOOD FUCKING TIMES.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:11 No.14422583
    >>14422567
    Better yet, mirror armor!
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:12 No.14422596
    I never understood why the wizards didn't just hire a sniper to shoot voldemort
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:13 No.14422602
    >>14422596
    They don't know what a 'sniper' is.
    The newpaper article on Harry's godfather had to explain that a 'gun' is a special kind of metal wand that muggles use.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:14 No.14422609
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    >>14422596
    Magic must defeat magic!
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:14 No.14422610
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    Are they offering to supply the resources/help acquire the contraptions? Because that would make things a lot more interesting. There are all sorts of toys I'd like to get my hands on that could give me an edge.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:15 No.14422615
    >>14422549
    >>14422554
    >>14422558
    >>14422565
    >>14422567
    >>14422596
    >>14422602
    guns guns and more guns
    /tg/ I love you
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:16 No.14422627
    I CHOOSE...... a set of billowy black curtains.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:16 No.14422629
    I never understood
    They have magic pictures that play video and can be mass printed
    they have magical candy and flying motorcycles and talking hats and trains...

    but not one of them has enchanted a gun, or a gun-proof shield?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:17 No.14422633
    >>14422602
    the separation between muggles and wizards is fucking ridiculous, then. Especially considering the mudbloods wizards who know damn well what a gun is.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:17 No.14422639
    a pinwheel and a folding chair to occupy my components as they attempt to decipher their strange abilities.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:18 No.14422642
    My pokemanz
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:18 No.14422644
    >>14422639
    You have to slay a dragon
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:19 No.14422651
    >>14422629
    BECAUSE they have all those things, they don't need guns
    they don't need any technology passed the 19th century
    this is often the fatal flaw with wizards in fantasy
    they refuse to change with the world
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:19 No.14422658
    An assortment of guns, various mythological safeguards (garlic, a mirror, silver daggerm blah, blah, blah), a leather jacket, and a motorcycle. I'm leaving that school with the virginities of hundreds of hot, teenage wizard-girls.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:20 No.14422664
    >>14422629
    There's a Dune-style personal shield spell, iirc.
    Then again, tanks.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:20 No.14422668
    >>14422644

    RPG to the face, dragon loses
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:20 No.14422670
    >>14422633
    Most of them don't know what electricity is.
    And that newspaper article did patronizingly describe a gun in a way that you would describe it to some lost amazonian tribesman who had never seen modern society.
    They are lost in a world of their own and really don't get how life works for muggles. But yeah, mudbloods are clued in.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:20 No.14422674
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    DPMS Panthe in 6.5 Creedmor.
    What Dragons?
    What Voldemort?
    Plus that russian underwater gun for and wet shenanigans.

    Shoot first, collect cup later.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:20 No.14422676
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    "Maximum Strength"
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:22 No.14422687
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    "Targetus Tosserus via UV-32-57 rocketpoddus, Motherfuckerus."

    Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:22 No.14422690
    Underestimate me if you wish. I will show you why you wizards hide.

    >First Task
    >Ghillie suit and a self firing rocket launcher as a distraction/to kill the dragon
    >Second Task
    >Scuba gear plus harpoon gun
    >Third Task
    >Google maps (I would laugh if this works. a bird's eye view of the maze? thanks!) and just a plain old hedge trimmer and a gun.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:22 No.14422691
    >>14422602
    Then sit in the forbidden forest with a bag reading 'student food! Yummy!' on the lawn. With me, a can of insect repellent. As well as a lot of rounds and a high powered sniper rifle.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:22 No.14422698
    >>14422644
    I'm I could easily have a nice chat with it instead.
    There's no reason we can't be civil.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:23 No.14422707
    First task? Crash a jet into the dragon. Take egg after bailing out.

    Second task? Drain the lake. With SCIENCE.

    Third task? Chainsaw my way to the centre, shoot wormtail in the face.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:23 No.14422710
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    >>14422658
    >>14422658
    >>14422658
    this is the only acceptable outcome
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:24 No.14422711
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    noww go and be cleansed by the light of truth purity nonfakeness hope and abovve all SCIENCE
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:24 No.14422713
    The triwziard tournament is fucked.

    You have all these little students..

    and then /tg/ turns up, everyone flying some sort of heavy military equipment and armed to the teeth.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:27 No.14422737
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    Avada Kedavra, motherfuckers
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:29 No.14422759
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    My very own V-Watch!
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:31 No.14422770
    Three words-

    Tactical. Nuclear. Weapon.

    Magic, meet fundamental forces of nature.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:31 No.14422771
    I take plastic explosive. With this, I...

    1. Explode the dragon
    2. Explode the mermaids and propel myself and the hostage out of the lake
    3. Explode my way through the maze and explode Voldemort and all his cronies
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:31 No.14422772
    >>14422713
    no magic phrase or flick of the wrist can save them from a 3 ounce piece of steel going through their scull
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:32 No.14422781
    >>14422772
    Skullus Hardenus?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:32 No.14422787
    The impetuous wizard stands in front of the mudblood and snorts. The mudblood may have his own strange wand, but the wizard not afraid to use unforgivable magics. He smiles and raises his wand. "Avada Kada-" "Bang." The wizard screams in pain, his mind unsure of what to make of this spell. Blood seeps through his hand as he cradles the puncture wound. The mudblood steps forward. "Bang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Bang."
    >> Glutton 03/30/11(Wed)21:32 No.14422791
    What is my current economic status OP?

    With some money, I can start getting guns. With more, I can start getting bigger guns, and then finally attack helicopters.

    Although, I'm not sure which would be more effective at fighting a dragon. Some sort of locking on missile like a Javelin, or a helicopter.

    It seems like the dragon would have more maneuverability and would be able to rip the tail off my copter before I could react to it.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:33 No.14422792
    I would like a Railgun mounted on a tank, please. That takes care of the dragon and the maze.

    As for the underwater section, I would like a pressurized diving suit and a crate of angry pistol shrimp.

    Yeah. That's right. Fuck off, fish people. Don't make me open this box. You don't want none of this.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:38 No.14422844
    and then, once we defeated, nay, thrashed the triwizard tournament and became bros with the goblet of fire for letting us have this chance, we go to these schools and have ALL the bitches.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:38 No.14422852
    >>14422791
    A grenade launcher. Aim into its mouth.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:39 No.14422858
    >harry potter and the methods of rationality

    Look this up on fanfiction. You'll love it to death.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:39 No.14422859
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    my god. I just realized.

    There was no challenge that could not be completes be proper use of a tunneling device.

    > dig underground, steal egg from below.

    > dig underground, pop up periodically to looks around for friends. steal from below.

    > dig though maze. fuck walls.

    pic maybe related?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:43 No.14422885
    >>14422690
    Last idea wouldn't work. Hogwarts has some odd enchantment thing that prevents complex electronics from working in the area.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:43 No.14422887
    >>14422844

    I think considering the amount of ordnance we've just used on the poor dragon and maze, a good chunk of it will have missed and hit the school. More than a few will have hit the spectator stands too, the bitches are chunks
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:46 No.14422926
    Hey, I just realised. Both Harry Dresden wizards and Hogwarts wizards are doomed to be destroyed by the march of technology. Eventually, people will start noticing a dead spot where nothing electronic ever functions.

    Plus, you know, eventually technology will be vastly more potent than magic.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:49 No.14422950
    >>14422926
    Technology is vastly more potent than magic RIGHT NOW. It doesn't take much to de-orbit a tungsten telephone pole right on top of your shitty English castle.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:49 No.14422960
    so, long and short of it, wizard community vs /tg/ with supplies, /tg/ wins.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:49 No.14422963
    >>14422787
    I just imagined the Punisher shooting the wand in two and just pummeling the wizard to death.

    Oh hells yes.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:50 No.14422972
    >>14422926
    No no no, Dresden files becomes Shadowrun.
    Harry Potter wizards become Jedi.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:52 No.14423000
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    ...Yeah.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:53 No.14423003
    Damnit I don't want to overcome magic society with technology, I want to fucking trade them for some magic. If you told an engineer you were going to go kill all the people who could magic away waste heat and transmute elements, you would deserve the horrible industrial accident which would befall you.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:54 No.14423024
    1st task

    Flare Gun, remote control helicopter with sparklers and and a drug packet that could put thirty elephants into a coma.

    2nd Task

    Scuba Gear, spear gun

    3rd Task

    Compass, flamethrower, and a book of riddles
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:55 No.14423027
    >>14423003
    >implying i'm going to kill them
    I'm just going to shove their wands where the sun don't shine for the uppity attitude, score with all the bitches and then steal the magic for the betterment for the world. AWAAAAY
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:56 No.14423037
    An airplane so I can fly the fuck away from these crazy assholes.
    Im in goddamn SCHOOL and you want me to fight a fucking DRAGON? Go to hell!
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:58 No.14423060
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    Timberwolf Prime, a lot of ammo, and Ride of the Valkyries playing over a loudspeaker.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)21:58 No.14423066
    1
    A tank.

    2
    Scuba gear and a HUGE sack of DDT.

    3
    GPS and an automatic weapon. Also, mosquito spray.
    >> Hammerknife !7ITukp3Pj2 03/30/11(Wed)21:59 No.14423070
    >>14422885
    So Hogwarts is highly radioactive?

    Good to know
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:00 No.14423079
    >>14423060
    Typical, pussy clanners need a heavy 'mech for glorified pest control.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:00 No.14423087
    >>14422926
    >>14422950

    You guys are thinking small time.

    Science doesn't make magic obsolete. It takes magic and makes it do the heavy lifting. Use magic INTELLIGENTLY.

    "So, let me get this straight. You have teleportation, and all it takes is a wand and some fancy words?"

    [three years later]

    Engineering: "Wand array 1 online. Array 2 online. Arrays 3 and 4 online."

    Command: "What is the status of the navigators?"

    Navigation: "Vat-grown pureblood wizard clones are all awake. Mind control curse active and stable. Chance of squicking, 0.04%"

    Command: "Flight control?"

    Engineering: "The ventral giga-broom pilot is all strapped in. Point-defense levitation array on the front of the ship should move any debris out of our way before collision."

    Command: "All hands: prepare for Appearation! Navigation, lay in a course for Alpha Centauri."

    And thus, mankind launched the first of many Spelljammers.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:01 No.14423098
    >>14423070
    That would explain the woods, at least.
    Hippogryph soon, fellow wizard.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:02 No.14423116
    >>14423098
    Oh, really? Wh--

    SKREEEEE
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:03 No.14423119
    >>14423087
    That would blow if Potter magic is like WoD magic. And it might be, considering wizards cannot into space.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:04 No.14423132
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    > ventral giga-broom
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:04 No.14423137
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    >>14422651
    Somebody hasn't seen Just Visiting.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:05 No.14423146
    Dirty nuke. We all die. Hogwarts is no more and the world is saved from a further 3 shitty books and 4 shitty movies.

    Now start a Twilight thread.
    >>   03/30/11(Wed)22:05 No.14423150
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    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:07 No.14423164
    >>14422950
    True. But I meant more along the lines of macro-lattice structures that exist outside of realspace and allow you to toss off fireballs for shits and giggles.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:08 No.14423172
    god i really want to see their reaction to an attack helicopter now
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    >>14423087
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:09 No.14423189
    >>14423164
    Only a matter of time before those can be accessed by technology.
    >> The long-awaited return of Gateway !A0rZLfg4Oc 03/30/11(Wed)22:10 No.14423195
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    Can I phone a friend?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:10 No.14423196
    >>14423172
    >initial reaction
    I've never seen this kind of flying beast before. Is... is that riders inside the beast? weird.
    >pew pew pew
    OH GOD IT'S SHOOTING FIREBALLS AT US
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:11 No.14423209
    I want to see something like this in a modern big budget movie where science fucks up magic's shit hard.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:13 No.14423222
    >>14423189
    I'd prefer a heavy gear armed with lots of anti tank missiles and laser weapons, to be honest.

    Mostly because then you can punch out a.. oh my god.

    NEON GENESIS EVANGELION COMES TO HOGWARTS.

    "I AM ARISEN ANEW, HARRY POTT-"
    *Splat*
    "Mother? Are you here? Mother? Where are you?"
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:14 No.14423237
    >>14423209
    We will need a title and a basic plot. Then /tg/'s imagination will engage and good things will happen.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:16 No.14423254
    >>14423237
    Carl Sagan lands in Ravenloft.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:16 No.14423255
    >>14423195
    Harry Potter and the Wrath of the Dark Knight?

    I'd buy it.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:16 No.14423259
    >>14423209

    On a similar note, I have always wanted to see a movie where God stopped talking to us in the last couple thousands years because he is fucking terrified that humanity might declare war on him and win, so he would rather not prove his existence anymore.

    Cue Gods existence being proven bu science, and mankind invading heaven over the weight of all of the petty shit you can blame on god.

    *Jet Fighter guns down a host of angels*

    "WHY DO BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE? WHAT KIND OF JERK INVENTS STDS, ANYWAY?"
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:16 No.14423263
    >>14423237
    MAGIC VS SCIENCE
    Something about science accidentally a portal into the world of magic.
    or do we not want to go syfy movie stylee?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:17 No.14423268
    >>14423263
    Or we could just go play SDhadowrun.
    >> The long-awaited return of Gateway !A0rZLfg4Oc 03/30/11(Wed)22:18 No.14423273
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    >>14423255
    Just because I feel like posting it.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:18 No.14423275
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    >>14423209
    you just broke my mind anon
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:19 No.14423279
    >>14423259

    Been done in fiction form, though invading heaven doesn't occur till the 2nd part.

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSalvationWar
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:19 No.14423282
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    >>14423255
    >Harry Potter and the Wrath of the Dark Knight?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:20 No.14423298
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    14422644
    Quick someone ask /k/ if the goal keeper system could get a lock on a dragon!

    Think force multiplier!

    3) The APDS sub-caliber penetrator is made from depleted uranium (DP) and has a diameter of about 0.6 in (1.5 cm). The penetrator has an thin light-alloy ballistic cap, which allows the penetrator itself to have a short conical shape. The APDS is said to be cabable of defeating twice the armor thickness as the API at a distance of 1,590 yards (1,500 m).

    4) The MPDS sub-caliber penetrator is made from high-density tungsten alloy and has a diameter of about 0.6 in (1.5 cm).

    5) Time of flight for APDS-T at MV = 4,019 fps (1,225 mps)
    2,190 yards (2,000 m): 1.87 seconds

    6) Time of flight for MPDS at MV = 3,773 fps (1,150 mps)
    1,050 yards (1,000 m): 0.94 seconds
    2,190 yards (2,000 m): 1.73 seconds
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:20 No.14423306
    a phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range, my homeboy batmans utility belt, TRAVIS MOTHERFUCKING TOUCHDOWNS BADASSED GODDAMN SWORD.The BFG 9000, a Benelli M3, and some chicken strips
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:21 No.14423310
    >>14423259
    But... that doesn't make any sense. At all.
    >> The long-awaited return of Gateway !A0rZLfg4Oc 03/30/11(Wed)22:21 No.14423312
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    >>14423273
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:22 No.14423320
    >>14423298

    >Think force multiplier!

    you fucking faggots keep misusing that word
    >> BROther Laughing Man !!6Ltud83uedY 03/30/11(Wed)22:23 No.14423328
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    >>14423222
    Oh.

    Oh my.

    GENTLEMEN. WE HAVE WORK TO DO.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:25 No.14423345
    >>14423298
    Quick answer: it doesn't fucking matter, since dragons are slow as hell. You'd press a button, hear a WHIRRRRRRR and see a rain of gibs.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:26 No.14423350
    First Task.
    Steal harry's cloak of invisibility, why fight when you can hide.
    Second Task
    Scuba gear duh!
    Third Task
    Flamer thrower. I'll burn right through to the centre.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:27 No.14423352
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    >>14423259
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:27 No.14423353
    >>14423259
    Not exactly what you were saying, but I think you'd take an interest in this:

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSalvationWar
    >> The long-awaited return of Gateway !A0rZLfg4Oc 03/30/11(Wed)22:29 No.14423365
    >>14423087
    YOU! START WRITING BOOKS!
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:29 No.14423367
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    I wear the ring of iron. I've seen the altar housing the ashes of a dead god's heart. I've heard the crackling pulse of pure power barely contained. The living rock shelters me, and my soul is carved from ash.

    Either their world will be woven into mine, or these challenges will dissolve before my gaze like morning mist when a typhoon hits.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:31 No.14423375
    >>14423367
    Engineer's ring?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:32 No.14423389
    >>14422858
    >>14422858
    >>14422858
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:33 No.14423401
    >>14423375
    Mountain engineer's.
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    >>14423328
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzIZ_ygG-kQ

    Yesss. Third impact would be more awesome with wands.
    >> Kreetn !TROLlvzGSU 03/30/11(Wed)22:36 No.14423428
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    DOESN'T MATTER

    because once i'm in i steal magical artifacts such as wands, spellbooks, amulets, potion recipes, broomsticks, etc, and give them all to the S.A.S.

    their weapons R&D facility jumps lightyears ahead once they've studied all these materials thoroughly and then we conquer the stars.
    MUGGLES WIN EVERYTHING FOREVER.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:40 No.14423460
    >>14423428

    ....shit don't work that way, bro.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:43 No.14423487
    >>14422926
    Yeah, but Dresdenverse wizards KNOW that normals with technology are a fucking scary thing. Dresden himself points this out more than once.
    >> Kreetn !TROLlvzGSU 03/30/11(Wed)22:43 No.14423490
    >>14423460
    here's one example.
    broomticks.
    sticks made of wood.
    able to fly at mach speed with only minor discomfort to the riders.
    imagine enchanting ships or planes with that.

    imagine bullets enchanted to never miss, radar modified to reveal named objects and persons. the possibilities are endless.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:45 No.14423498
    >>14423490

    Ok. How are you doing that? You can't use magic. So..it's usless to you.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:47 No.14423514
    >>14423487
    And they fully appreciate it as well.

    For instance, Warden Morgan once had a nasty run-in with a Skinwalker. Skinwalkers are major bad news and are not to be fucked with. Morgan responds with leading the abomination to a desolate stretch of desert and slipping a back into the Nevernever just in time for the Skinwalker to become very intimate with the testing of a nuclear weapon.
    >> Kreetn !TROLlvzGSU 03/30/11(Wed)22:48 No.14423518
    >>14423498
    mr. weasely's job was hunting down old artifacts that had fallen into the hands of muggles, so obviously they're not completely inert except in wizard hands.
    failing that, all we'd need would be a man on the inside. Mundungus Fletcher comes to mind.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)22:51 No.14423531
    Can I choose something not invented yet? if so I would like power armor. Not 40k or Fallout power armor, I mean henshin style power armor.

    "Why is he facing the dragon without anything, that muggle must be completely brain dead!"

    "TRANSFORM!"

    And then I would proceed to down the dragon with scientific weaponry and enhanced stength
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:00 No.14423573
    >>14423254
    MY BODY, IT IS READY. also SHUTTHEFUCKUPYOUSONOFABITCHANDTAKEMYGODDAMNMONEY.JPG
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:01 No.14423586
    >>14423531
    also with a goodly godly dose of RIDER KICK!!!!

    suddenly i see the green ranger piping his zord all the way of voldemorts ass.
    >> Dorf 03/30/11(Wed)23:03 No.14423597
    >>14422690

    For that, you can just get the underwater varient of a AK, seriously, there is one.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:04 No.14423601
    >>14422658
    So basically you're now Dean Winchester?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:05 No.14423605
    >>14423586
    "AVADA KAD-"

    *flying kick to the face*

    "IT'S MORPHIN TIME!"
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:07 No.14423631
    >>14423518

    Yes, but you can't -make more-. You can't replicate it.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:07 No.14423639
    This thread reminds me of the time dresden pulled a gun on a group of harry potter wannabes and they're all "You're not meant to do that".
    >> S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 03/30/11(Wed)23:08 No.14423649
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    >>14423531
    >>14423586
    >>14423605
    Don't forget to bring a motorcycle.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:13 No.14423690
    I wonder if the wizarding community at large knows that muggles have been to the moon.
    I'm guessing muggleborns do, but what aobut the likes of the Weasleys or Malfoys?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:13 No.14423695
    >>14423649
    Oh heavens no, I would never forget that. Or my badass scarf
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:14 No.14423702
    A riot truck with a mounted water cannon. Only its not full of water, but LSD. And a fully enclosed suit with oxygen supply.

    I spray the LSD at the crowd, at the dragon, in the lake, all over the maze. Wizards dont know shit about real chemistry so they'll be in for a surprise. Once EVERYTHING is tripping balls I complete each task completely unhindered, wizard nubs learn about some muggle magic.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:15 No.14423715
    >>14423639
    I fucking love that scene.

    >From Day Off

    I squinted at nothing, like Clint Eastwood would do, and said nothing, like Chow Yun-Fat would do.

    >Five young adults in lame gothic outfits and Harry Potter stuff stare him down and the leader accuses Harry of "desecrating his works".
    >After noting that Darth Wannabe's "curse" on some nice lady's home was hardly noticible

    "Sorry for your wrath, Darth Wannabe."

    He recovered his composure in seconds. "Apologies will do you know good, Wizard. Now!"

    He and his posse all raised their various accoutrements, sneering malevolently. "Defend yourself!"

    "Okay," I said, and pulled my .44 out of my pocket.

    Darth Wannabe and his posse lost their sneers.

    "Wh-what?" said one of the girls, who had a nose ring that I was pretty sure was a clip-on. "What are you doing?"

    "I'm a-fixin' to defend myself."
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:16 No.14423723
    couldn't you just refuse to compete? I mean its not like they really could MAKE you do this stuff. You would just say "I lose this round".
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:17 No.14423737
    >>14423649
    >>14423605
    >>14423586
    >>14423531
    This gives me an idea for a plot where a clan of evil mages have awoken on Earth, thinking the regular mortals the same as before, and begin wrecking shit to establish control. But some guy with power armor, the most advanced weaponry, and endless determination stands up to fight the mages to save humanity.
    >> Dorf 03/30/11(Wed)23:18 No.14423743
    >>14423690

    The elder Weaslys, possibly, the Malfoys? Doubt it.

    Regardless, my own list.

    1st Task: Flashbangs and Smoke Grenades EVERYWHERE, and I suppose a fairly easily breakable flask of deer piss.

    2nd Task: Diveing suit modified to accept emergency air tank? I'm not sure about you guys, but I'm relatively sure that most of us really don't know how to operate SCUBA gear properly.

    3rd Task: Easy Eight Sherman with Hedgerow clippers, maybe make it a Crocodile for shits and giggles.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:19 No.14423753
    task one: anti materiel rifle

    task two: depth charges

    task three: flamethrower

    PRIZE ME
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:20 No.14423759
    >>14423702 I complete each task completely unhindered
    Having a bunch of wizards (and it seems at least one dragon) around who hear colours, see infinite-dimensional mathematical space, and think they're the metagrammatical cross-breed of a purple elephant and a sewing machine in C-minor might end up being something of an obstacle, at least once they get expressionistic about it and start forcing reality to comply with it all.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:30 No.14423863
    this is why I love the harry potter universe.

    magic gets its SHIT STOMPED against muggles, so it hides. it's not just "lolmagic" and the wizards win everything.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:32 No.14423885
    Wizards in general don't seem to understand science or technology. Which is funny, since in a way, science is humanity's magic.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:33 No.14423894
    >>14423885
    man, if a computer is anything other than a "magic box" to 90% of society, that will be news to me.

    NOBODY knows how everything works any more.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:35 No.14423914
    >>14423863

    Magic still breaks shit.

    Can't plot it on a map, it looks normal no matter what....telport in, mind-rape, zoom out...

    The wizards in the book are frankly, retarded. They can break the -shit- out of their system, they are just too stupid to.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:36 No.14423926
    AK-M with 9 magazines, RPG-7 with 3 rockets, my leather jacket, a tin of pomade and a silver Großes Messer.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:37 No.14423934
    >>14423863
    Rowling did say in an interview that in a hypothetical fight between a muggle with a shotgun and a wizard with a wand, the muggle wins.
    Harry Potter wizards aren't all that great.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:39 No.14423958
    >>14423926
    >Großes Messer
    You have good taste in swords.
    >> Knives !!1DIGXehXX3C 03/30/11(Wed)23:41 No.14423991
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    This whole thread, and nobody brings Mandalorian battle armor?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:44 No.14424017
    >>14423991
    I don't live in Star Wars, so I didn't bring it up.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:45 No.14424041
    >>14423690
    Can you imagine what the 'pure' wizard families would think when they're told, and shown, that Muggles have not only reached space but have also split a particle too small to see and use that power to completely wipe out an entire city effortlessly? They'd fucking shit themselves.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:48 No.14424079
    >>14423934

    It comes down to the fact that most wizards can't just think spells and shit into being; there's always some verbal, somatic, or material component to a spell.

    No matter how how powerful a spell Chauncy can cast, chances are Bert can pull a trigger faster.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:49 No.14424081
    >>14424041
    They wouldn't even know what an 'atom' or a 'bomb' are.
    I guess with enough explaining and diagrams they would get it eventually.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:50 No.14424091
    anyone mind explaining how the muggleborn get away with not going to the state schools?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:52 No.14424113
    >>14423273
    >superman a barbarian
    >not a paladin or knight

    >Niggawhatyoudoing.jpg
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:53 No.14424117
    >>14424091
    homeschooling
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:53 No.14424120
    >>14424081
    or you could show them a video of the bomb tests
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:56 No.14424144
    >>14424117
    Ah so they actually file paperwork then?
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:56 No.14424145
    >>14424091
    Mind wiping spells.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:57 No.14424166
    >>14424145
    But i thought they couldn't use that kind of magic, like they thought it immoral.
    >> Anonymous 03/30/11(Wed)23:59 No.14424179
    >>14424166
    mind wiping is constantly used throughout the book.
    students use it on their teachers.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:00 No.14424192
    >>14424166
    They will mind wipe a muggle at a drop of a hat.
    The ministry of magic has a whole section of workers devoted to nothing but showing up and wrecking muggles' minds.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:03 No.14424218
    >>14424192
    >>14424179
    Then what was the banned or prohibited magic?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:05 No.14424229
    >>14424218
    death, torture, mindcontrol

    the three unforgivables
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:06 No.14424235
    >>14424229
    Well I'd assume mind-wipes are a form of mind control, but I guess not.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:08 No.14424250
    >>14424218
    Mental domination is banned.
    Mind wiping is A-OK.

    I remember before seeing the Quiddich game, the Weaslies and Harry stayed at some place and a muggle there was stupid and out of it because all the wizards kept mind wiping him over and over again so that he wouldn't remember anything that he saw.
    It was kind of grim, but none of the characters seemed to get that.
    These people have a boner for mind wiping.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:09 No.14424260
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    >>14424192
    They also consider 1984 to be the biggest leak ever.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:10 No.14424271
    /tg/, this needs to be made. Please. Someone please writefag this.

    It's sort of like HFY, but instead it's SFY.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:10 No.14424277
    >>14423263
    >>14423209
    Not big-budget by any means, but go watch Army of Darkness. Pretty much sums up what you're after.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:11 No.14424281
    >>14424250
    Mind wiping causes no permanent damage and can be reversed (as long as someone knows they have been mindwipe). It is too useful a tool for them to get rid of it. You think however they might try to use it a little less.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:11 No.14424286
    >>14422537
    >mudblood
    You mean muggle. Mudblood are those that are half witch half muggle and have magical powers.

    You could've also said squib implying we're from magical families but are nonmagical. Though I guess that would defeat the purpose of us knowing how to use muggle contraptions.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:13 No.14424295
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    This ought to do the trick. Bring it on.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:14 No.14424304
    >>14422537
    OP has never read Hogwarts: A History

    You can't use muggle machines on the grounds. They break down due to the magic and not even the headmaster can dispell it.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:15 No.14424310
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    Do your worst, you pre-industrial pussies!
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:16 No.14424315
    >>14424304
    Was that any machine or just electronics?
    I thought it was just electronics?
    So /tg/'s plan of 'guns, guns everywhere' would work.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:16 No.14424325
    >>14424304
    >You can't use muggle machines on the grounds.
    So, what, physics and chemistry no longer apply in the least? They just sort of "stop"?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:17 No.14424330
    >>14424304
    You fail to understand how chemical propelled weapons operate.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:17 No.14424333
    >>14424325
    I think it's just electronics.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:17 No.14424336
    >>14424325
    I guess you really haven't read it. No. Like if you try to fire a gun, it jams and no matter how many times you try, something will fuck it up. Murphey's Law is set to 100%.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:18 No.14424342
    >>14424325
    If it stops reactions taking place, this would be ridiculously exploitable and valuable.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:18 No.14424347
    >>14424336
    They also have basic machinery. Like, clockwork watches would work, but electronic watches don't.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:19 No.14424351
    >>14424336
    Replace gun with 'computer' and 'jam' with 'won't turn on' and that is a true statement.
    Mechanical machines still work just fine.
    >> Benign Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:19 No.14424355
    >>14424304
    I would imagine so with complex electronic devices, but most guns are actually very simple mechanisms with no external power source.

    I figured simple things like flashlights and most guns would work, something complex, like a computer would fail.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:19 No.14424358
    >>14424342
    Yes it does. But remember that Jo Rowling is a layman. She didn't exactly science her magic out. It DOES have crazy implications. The only reason Arthur's flying car worked on grounds is because he enchanted it. But that is actually why it died at first.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:20 No.14424364
    So chemical reactions don't work in these wizard zones?

    How the hell do the metabolisms of the students still work?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:21 No.14424371
    >>14424364
    MAGIC
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:21 No.14424376
    >>14424342
    if it stop chemical reactions then everything would die instantly
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:22 No.14424383
    >>14424351
    No machines period. In Harry's fourth year it was explained that summoning a scuba gear from the local village wouldn't work because of the magical barriers stopping complex machines. (No real definition, but it probably follows Terminator 2 rules for the T-1000 transformations)
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:22 No.14424385
    >>14424358
    Come off it. Guns would work. They really aren't that complex.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:22 No.14424387
    >>14424371
    BULLSHIT
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:22 No.14424388
    If we cant use tech on the premises, we will just use tech off premises.
    Precision Artillery strikes anyone?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:22 No.14424393
    >>14423428
    I'd like to imagine the British Military approaches particularly talented wizards who graduate Hogwarts and ask them how they feel about serving their country.

    They then get attached to muggle SAS squads to hunt down particularly dangerous magical threats.

    They have their wands affixed to the barrels of their rifles as if they were M203 grenade launchers
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:23 No.14424397
    >>14424387
    EXACTLY
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:23 No.14424400
    So if I applied fire to gunpowder, it wouldn't ignite?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:23 No.14424401
    >>14424383
    A valve on a compressed oxygen tank is too complex?

    This just herpin the derp.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:23 No.14424403
    >>14424383
    A valve is hardly even a machine.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:24 No.14424406
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    All these Mugglesfuckyear people saying they'd bring tanks, scuba (no training lol), RPGs and other unlicensed guns (Guns in England? LOL) are retarded as fuck. You're a 14 year old kid and you have only the means of the said, sure you can get some help off the sides like Harry did but not to the point of getting military materiel at the flick of the wrist.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:24 No.14424408
    >>14424385
    It mentions guns BY NAME. They called them "loud muggle wands...er guns?". It was explained that they can't be used on Hogwarts property by Hermione.

    Seriously HAVE YOU GUYS NEVER READ HOGWARTS: A HISTORY?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:24 No.14424412
    >>14424355
    I thought it was just wi-fi stuff that didn't work.
    So you could take your phone there, and it would work fine. But you'd never get a signal
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:25 No.14424416
    >>14424401
    I think that has more to do with Rowling not really knowing much about scuba shit. Honestly, it seems like it should be complex, but once you understand it, it really isn't.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:25 No.14424420
    >>14424406
    OP says none of that.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:25 No.14424421
    No Hermonine, we mostly just sleep during History of Magic class.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:26 No.14424424
    >>14424412
    Nope there is a retarded no tech field that is not particularly consistent.
    A clockwork watch (which is allowed) is more complicated than many of things the field bars
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:26 No.14424425
    >>14424400
    It would. I'm sure Hogwarts' ward just considers that an alchemical reaction. There's even a potion that uses saltpeter and sulfur.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:26 No.14424431
    >>14424383
    I thought he wasn't allowed to do that because it would break the secrecy of magic when a set of scuba gear goes flying through a town.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:26 No.14424432
    Next thing you're going to say is that a modern composite longbow with pulleys and whatnot won't work, because it's made with artificial materials like high impact resin and plastic.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:27 No.14424435
    >>14424388
    The hell with that, my dream gun shoots bee hives with knives where the stingers should be. I laugh at your puny artillery.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:27 No.14424437
    >>14424406
    >Lily's skirt length

    Confirmed for Hogwarts's village bicycle
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:27 No.14424444
    >>14424425
    that kind of shit is inconsistent and is plain plot-derp.
    >> αlpharius 03/31/11(Thu)00:27 No.14424446
    Here's an idea
    Perhaps the field blocks devices that were invented after a certain date from working.
    Sill utterly retarded, but it would explain the inconsistencies in complexity.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:28 No.14424450
    >>14424401
    Yeah like I said Jo Rowling didn't really science her magic out.

    Even the internal rules aren't that consistent. But then again as the author she probably didn't think much of that through since she had full control of the story and didn't plan to use guns, scuba gear, or anything like that. But definitely remember what happens to Arthur's car when they are flying over Hogwarts. It immediately shuts down and falls out of the sky. Then the magic kicks back in and it runs away.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:28 No.14424451
    I'm very sure that a mechanical pocket watch is many times more mechanically complex than my shotgun.
    It has a fire pin on a spring.
    The trigger releases that.
    It would be hard to make a simpler machine.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:28 No.14424452
    >>14424408
    Right, the gullible girl who believes whatever is published.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:28 No.14424455
    But OP, I'm a Pariah!
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:28 No.14424456
    >>14423531
    >>14423586
    >>14423605
    >>14423649

    ooo's has some rather straight forward applications for this.

    Task 1: GataKiriBa. Army of rider kicking, hopper jumping, knife wielding maniacs.
    Task 2: ShaUTa. Duh.
    Task 3: TaJaDor. Burn the Fucker down.

    Of course you could argue Kabuto with perfect zecter and clock up, or anyone other than Kiva. Decade might have two whole seconds of trouble with the water before some sort of hax/bullshit solution (oh! like having a ShaUTa card perhaps?)

    this thread has given me more than few good lols. Good work gentlemen.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:29 No.14424462
    >>14424425
    Okay check this out: I take a pan with gunpowder in it and I attach it to a fucking iron pipe and a wooden stock and then put things blah blah blah I make a fucking musket because all a musket really needs is a chemical reaction to propel a metal ball.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:30 No.14424465
    If it's only complicated machines that don't work, a gun could still be used. There are some real low tech guns that still work, albiet very weakly, and only using one bullet, but still. Are you saying i could bring a flintlock onto the school campus and pulling the trigger would not cause the hammer to spark?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:30 No.14424467
    >>14424446
    Guns have been around probably before watches.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:30 No.14424468
    >>14423222
    Oh God, it all makes sense. The whiny, lanky, pasty dark-haired protagonist with parent issues. His redhead friend that he lives with. The off-putting sister-figure who's loyal once you get to know here. FUCK YOU for making me see this now.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:31 No.14424469
    MISSILES FILLED WITH ARMED SHARKS.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:31 No.14424472
    >>14424431
    That was actually a second reason given. After Hermione reminded him about Hogwarts: A History for the four billionth time, he realized that it didn't matter since seeing a set of scuba gear WHIZZING THROUGH THE COUNTRYSIDE would probably break secrecy laws.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:32 No.14424476
    >>14424437
    Course she is, look at that hair, thats sex hair if i ever saw it
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:34 No.14424504
    >>14424406

    Have to agree, it's a little disappointing that the solution for everything is "durr blast it with a M-16"?

    Really? A real dearth of creativity here. If anything it'd be more impressive to get in and out using everyday objects.

    So here's my list without weapons of any sort. I'd take:

    -a mirror: lot of uses from classical mythology and folklore. Handy if I run into a gorgon, or for telling who a vampire might be, and it might even reflect a magic spell or two.

    -A comb of pearlshell. Useful gift for charming a fickle nymph.

    -couple bags of pet food; for helping get past magical beasts. Dog food would do wonders for a hungry Cerberus.

    -A whistle or some other shrill instrument. All sorts of uses. High pitched noises can drive away spirits and the like in many folk cultures.

    -A scary Halloween mask, or heck, a mask from any culture that was meant to scare away evil spirits.

    -Compass - useful for mazes.

    -First aid kit. This one is pretty obvious too.

    -pencil and graph paper. Always handy.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:34 No.14424506
    >>14424388

    You can't see or map the place, dawg.
    >> αlpharius 03/31/11(Thu)00:34 No.14424509
    >>14424467
    Hmmmmm, in that case, perhaps the ward is sentient, or capable of making rudimentary decisions.
    Blocking things on a case by case basis.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:34 No.14424510
    >>14424446
    Actually that WOULD make sense. Most of the time, Wizards have very little grasp on muggle contraptions. It's likely the barrier was made to block out 1800's+ technology in Rowling's mind unconsciously and that's why she can't be consistent for shit.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:35 No.14424519
    >>14424509
    There's a lot of evidence to suggest that Hogwarts is sapient.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:36 No.14424525
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    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:36 No.14424526
    >>14424456
    >Decade might have two whole seconds of trouble with the water before some sort of hax/bullshit solution (oh! like having a ShaUTa card perhaps?)
    Or he could use Den-O Rod Form
    >> αlpharius 03/31/11(Thu)00:36 No.14424530
    >>14424519
    Well then a combination of the two?
    It's sentient/sapient and blocks technology that it doesn't like after a certain threshold.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:38 No.14424546
    >>14424462
    Oh so you're THAT faggot in every roleplay who meta-games the inconsistent and magical laws of physics within the world like a total ass just to twink munchkin in a gun or a jet fighter where it doesn't fucking belong.

    You make everything less fun, just so you know that.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:39 No.14424552
    Double-Rifle in .600 Nitro Express for the dragon.

    Scuba equipment and one of those guns that you can fire underwater for the lake.

    AR-10, flare pistol, frag grenades, flashbang grenades, knife and compass for the maze.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:40 No.14424564
    >>14424406
    Oh, no? I have the common sense to realize the economic potential of artifacts that bend the laws of physics. I could walk into the shopping district and be the ruler of my own empire by the end of the year. Obtaining/making heavy weapons would be a trifling matter. Heck, my cuz is a gunsmith. I have an advantage on that front.
    >> ClubMeSoftly !vjX/b/51.s 03/31/11(Thu)00:41 No.14424573
    >>14424383
    No, Harry decides against summoning Scuba gear, because it would've looked suspicious seeing it whizzing across the countryside.

    Page 418, midway down the page:

    " Ron quite liked the idea of using the summoning charm again - Harry had explained about aqualungs, and Ron couldn't see why Harry shouldn't summon one from the nearest Muggle town. Hermione by pointing out that, in the unlikely event that Harry managed to learn how to operate an aqualung within the set limit of an hour, he was sure to be disqualified for breaking the International Code of Wizarding Secrecy - it was too much to hope that no Muggles would spot an aqualung zooming across the countryside to Hogwarts."
    - HPatGoF, 1st ed, Canadian/Euro./children's printing.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:43 No.14424587
    >>14424573
    Oh shit. Someone just whipped out a Primary Source on fucking 4chan.

    It's fucking on now.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:43 No.14424589
    >>14424546
    You know, on the one hand I totally understand the concept of stylized physics. Star Wars has blasters, 40k has chainswords, etc. It's necessary to maintain the dynamic concept of the setting - Star Wars is dogfights in space, 40k is close-range battles, etcetera.

    On the other hand, getting mad because of the application of rational physics is like the most immature thing you can do. What, you've got a problem with people thinking up fucking solutions? Guess what, asshole, if you don't like it you can probably use your INFINITE FUCKING MAGIC to deal with it. The challenge is about using mundane things, and guess what: "complex mechanical object" are simple, mundane processes that are tied together to form a reliable effect. There's no fucking tension in a world full of people who are fighting half-assed. HEY GUESS WHAT FUCKSHITS IF YOU PUT A STOCK ON YOUR WAND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HIT SOMETHING WITH YOUR FUCKING AVADA KEDAVRAS SINCE YOU STILL HAVE TO FUCKING AIM IT
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:44 No.14424593
    >>14424546

    You have my support completely on that point. This thread has been pretty disappointing in terms of creative solutions.

    I haven't seen a single other post yet than is somehow weapons-free aside from: >>14422627 and >>14424504. Everything else tends to be variations on "as much dakka as I can possibly carry," which is pretty stale.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:44 No.14424599
    >>14424564
    You're an idiot. There's not going to be a magical world where you can't do this. Stop intentionally fagging up everything with your bullshit. There's a certain extent where that faggotieness is acceptable and we're clearly passed it (hint: it was when we all found out Hogwarts stops guns from working). Stop trying to make "guns" that are not "guns".

    Rowling didn't want guns to go off on grounds because it would bring unnecessary violence into a child's story, and because she has Liberal anti-gun views. The Avada Kedavra curse is her opinion on what having a gun in a household does. As retarded as she is, this clearly means that she intends for Hogwarts to have no fucking guns. Not firearms, not railguns, not fucking rubber band guns. Get it through your fucking head.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:46 No.14424618
    >>14424599
    The entire point of the thread is non-magic shit in a magical world. Exploiting our advantage is the point.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:47 No.14424620
    >>14424573
    Ah I admit defeat about the scuba gear. I could have sworn it wouldn't be operational.
    >> Kingsfoil !!/lI/F9eKE8m 03/31/11(Thu)00:47 No.14424627
    For the first one: massive firepower should work.

    For the second: cornstarch. Gelatinaze the lake, walk across it to victory.

    The third: Chainsaw and make straight for the center.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:48 No.14424633
    >>14424437

    >MFW I realized that Luna has a skirt of the exact same length.

    >>14424468
    >>14423222

    Ohh GodDAMNIT. I cannot unsee this now.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:48 No.14424635
    >>14424599
    COMBUSTION STILL HAPPENS IN HOGWARTS, SHITHEAD!
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:48 No.14424638
    >>14424627
    The tournament isn't the same every time. Otherwise contestants could just read a history book for the solutions.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:49 No.14424643
    >>14424599
    >The Avada Kedavra curse is her opinion on what having a gun in a household does.
    do you have a source on this because it seems like a specific magical curse that is powered by hatred is different from...

    you know what, fuck it. nevermind. there's not even really a point to arguing about j.k. rowling because she just throws shit together with no sense of consistency or actually using the mechanics of the established universe
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:49 No.14424650
    >>14424635

    Sorry bitchtits, but as has been clearly stated, JK didn't want guns in her story, so she said "Lol a wizard did it". And low and behold. They don't work inside the wards. Its much more fun to outwit the dragon using a series of clever tricks anyways.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:50 No.14424660
    >>14424643
    Yes. Yes she fucking does. I'm the one you replied to. Basically I just state what she says in the books. I don't make a habit of arguing the epistemology of it.

    Guns don't work in Hogwarts.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:50 No.14424661
    >>14424638
    Also worth noting that the tournament isn't held in the same location every time either, so it's not a guarantee you'd have to deal with the anti-tech field. Even if you did, if the wizards didn't provide some kind of workaround for the anti-muggle-tech field, you could demand an anti-magic field to even things up.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:51 No.14424666
    >>14424627
    I would use a copious amount of triethylaluminum on the maze, if it were me. If the faggot complaining about guns had his way, I suppose chemical weapons would work just as well as guns on the dragons...
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:51 No.14424673
    >>14424650
    >JK didn't want guns in her story, so she said "Lol a wizard did it".
    HEY GUESS WHAT

    ANYTHING WE DO IS FUCKING IRRELEVANT BECAUSE NOW YOU'VE ESTABLISHED THAT OUR VICTORY IS DEPENDENT ENTIRELY UPON THE WHIM OF AN AUTHOR

    HOW DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO WORK WITHIN A SYSTEM THAT ONLY EXISTS WHEN IT NEEDS TO. EVEN IF WE HAD SPELLS THEY WOULD ONLY WORK IF ROWLING HAD WANTED THEM TO AT THE TIME, SO WE COULDN'T JUST AVADA KEDAVRA THE FUCKING DRAGON
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:52 No.14424675
    >>14424633
    Luna is wearing stockings. That's hardly bicycle-ish (though i still want to ride her and I'm a girl)
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:53 No.14424688
    >>14424675
    I'll give you something to ride...
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:53 No.14424690
    >>14424673
    It only means you can't use guns you gigantic faggot. Sure is nerd rage over something so simple as NO GUNS.

    Find something else to use.

    You idiots wouldn't last ten seconds on a Greek Quest with your GUNSGUNSGUNS mindset.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:53 No.14424695
    >>14424660
    "Why don't guns work?" "Because J.K. Rowling doesn't want them to."

    What a compelling universe she's created. There's no sense that anything actually exists or that any of it matters, because it's all as shallow as possible for the express purpose of telling a very short-sighted story. BUT LOL CHECK OUT THESE THREE SCHOOLS OF MAGIC THERE'S THE ALL-MALE ONE AND THE ALL-FEMALE ONE AND THE OTHER ONE AND THATS IT FOR THE WHOLE WORLD PROBABLY
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:55 No.14424703
    >>14424638

    This. Otherwise about half of Harry's problems with the Tournament would have been solved with a single trip to the Library.

    Frankly I'm kinda disappointed they never brought up the whole "Its really, really easy to bind someone in a magical contract against their will" thing again. Like say, with one of Voldemorts old school essays and the goblet, putting him down as the champion for Hogwarts. Do some really easy tasks like "first one to the end of the great hall wins the first task." "Spelling Bee for the Second Task." "Third task goes to whoever makes me laugh first." Then troll face as Tom has whatever vaguely explained very bad things that forced Harry to compete happen to him.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:56 No.14424707
    >>14424690
    No guns makes no sense. Combustion works, but just not when inside guns? Bull. Clearly, whichever wizard tested one in Hogwarts didn't know it needed to be loaded.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:56 No.14424715
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    Alright, first and foremost on the list: Moon boots. Because fuck yes moon boots. You can fly? I can fucking jump like a motherfucker.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:57 No.14424722
    >>14424688
    Lesbian. If you can't tell from my comment.

    >>14424695
    We're not contending that Rowling is some great fantasy writer. Honestly, the author wills it is just fine for this type of story. Children don't give a FUCK about complex physics. And adults that read this world are just doing it to relax and get immersed into something that isn't their shitty reality. It wasn't meant to be a comprehensive world. And yeah, Rowling probably couldn't do one if she tried. But the point is that your anger is severely misdirected. It's obvious that EVERYTHING is in the story because "the author wills it". Such as it is with almost all fucking fantasy. Getting mad isn't going to fix it.

    Why are you people getting so fucking mad over "no guns"?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:58 No.14424728
    You Americans all seem to forget that the book takes place in Britain, where gun laws are strict and gun owners aside from farmers and hunters are seen as maniacs.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:58 No.14424735
    >>14424722
    >Lesbian

    I'm not picky.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:59 No.14424741
    >>14424690
    Guns being allowed is in the OP. He says they are allowing muggle contraption; guns are muggle contraptions, ergo, guns are allowed. If they allow you something to make up for your lack of magic, then deny you its use, then the whole thing is bullshit anyway.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:59 No.14424742
    >>14422737

    >brofist.jpg
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:59 No.14424743
    I assume that I'm allowed to switch gear and not have to haul around everything all the time, so I'm going to go with a submachine gun, a shotgun, a flamethrower, scuba gear, a handgun, lots and lots of tnt, a hedge trimmer, a compass, an assortment of knives, a couple of flashbangs.. I'd probably throw in a gunblade there, too.

    Also, a top hat and a cane.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:59 No.14424744
    >>14424722
    I'll drop out if you admit that every single societal/moral message found in Harry Potter is compromised by the fact that Rowling had to change reality in order to make most of them work.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)00:59 No.14424745
    >>14424703
    Because everything in book 7 was an asspull railroad that Rowling banged out at last minute on her keyboard with no checking for internal consistency.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:00 No.14424748
    >>14424728
    But we're being invited. And seeing as how most people are American, we're going by what we would have (Fantasize about, at least). I assume we'd get them into Britain the same way we'd get there in the first place: lolmagic.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:00 No.14424753
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    >>14424715
    Next up is a bat with a nail in it. Guns need ammo, and aiming while I'm wearing my motherfukken moon boots is gonna be a bitch, so let's get some nailbat up in this fucker.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:00 No.14424754
    >>14424735
    You might be when you find out I'm also a transwoman.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:00 No.14424757
    >>14424722
    Because it is absurd that the only place in hogwarts combustion cannot take place is inside a firing chamber. I call bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:02 No.14424761
    >>14424741
    AS explained a THOUSAND FUCKING TIMES NOW, it's the school's ward that fucking does this. Not any given fucking wizard and NO ONE can fucking dispell it. EVER.
    >> αlpharius 03/31/11(Thu)01:02 No.14424770
    At the end of the day, who needs guns?
    Quick trip to their alchemy lab, create some vials filled with chlorine.
    I'm pretty sure that chlorine gas will ruin a dragons day.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:03 No.14424778
    >>14424754
    hmm, a trap? a lesbian trap? Sure, I'll do you.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:03 No.14424780
    >>14424744
    Of fucking COURSE I admit that you idiot. I never contended the opposite.

    I don't even know what you want anymore. I'm just telling you what the book actually says. By a casual layman author.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:03 No.14424784
    >>14424761
    How does it feel to be a complete manchild?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:03 No.14424785
    >>14424761
    so then why are "muggle contraptions" allowed by the committee

    also why has nobody suggested a crossbow
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:03 No.14424789
    >>14424722
    fuck off dike. Anyway I would pass all tests with no tools. Muggle power. Meditation, Karate, and a stupid amount of luck. Then leave for the sunset.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:04 No.14424791
    Fine. You know what? I bring a hazmat suit and throw a vial of weaponized fucking smallpox at the goddamn audience.

    Fuck all 'yall.
    >> Chronicler 03/31/11(Thu)01:04 No.14424796
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    >>14422858

    I cannot express in the words of this or any other human tongue how thankful I am that you have brought this most wonderful of stories to my attention. I cannot recall a time when I have enjoyed reading something more thoroughly than this piece of fan-fiction. Thank you, thank you very, very much.

    In return, here is a picture of a winged Nurgle Daemon Prince eating a guardsman that one of our resident drawfags created for me.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:05 No.14424800
    >>14424778
    Not a trap dear. A transgender woman. It means I have gender dysphoria. Fuck it, yes, a trap. Don't worry your silly little head about it.

    But I'm taken anyway.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:05 No.14424803
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    >>14424753
    Third, I'm gonna need my trusty steed, SCUBAPONY. I might not be SCUBA trained, but SCUBAPONY has got my back as I ride his.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:06 No.14424807
    >>14424780
    Why am I meant to give a fuck about coming up with creative solutions to a problem when its wholly irrelevant? Why are we setting up this concept when the entire point is "you can only use what the author says is okay"?

    The problem isn't people who want guns, it's the people who thought this was a reasonable concept to begin with and got mad when their expectations were met with sensible decision-making. Seriously: people in this thread are bitching because, in a situation revolving around the use of "muggle contraptions", people are choosing to use the ones that actually fucking work.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:06 No.14424808
    >>14424722
    I see what you're saying, but the fact is, Rowling didn't create a complete setting, and it allows for other locales, rules, attributes, and features, so long as they fit within the initial setting. All tabletop gaming in a pre-created setting is predicated on that. This particular world is identical to our own, just with the inclusion of magic. Other than that, the physics are identical until the primary source explicitly says otherwise. In the case of guns, they are confirmed to exist in-universe, and they're confirmed to work just fine under ordinary circumstances, the kids just don't/can't get their hands on them. Now, they might not work on Hogwarts grounds, but there's no rule that says the tournament MUST be held there, only that it was held there that one year.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:06 No.14424811
    >>14424784
    Actually womanchild. Doesn't sound so bad anymore does it?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:07 No.14424819
    >>14424722
    For whatever reason, firearms and their place in fictional settings makes neckbeards' hair BRISTLE in agitation. There's a huge bug up gaming nerd's ass about guns in speculative/gamist scenarios.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:08 No.14424824
    con the elves into building a boiler. Then explode the boiler. Solution to your dragon problem, right there.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:08 No.14424827
    >>14424811
    Not ACTUALLY a womanchild, per se.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:11 No.14424852
    >>14424819
    I've noticed this. Nerds get really buttagitated about guns in fantasy for some reason.

    >>14424808
    This is by far the best post in the thread.
    Also girl who was saying guns don't work on Hogwarts grounds here, you are quite correct. This doesn't have to be held at Hogwarts. Though we don't actually know how Durmstrang and Beuaxbatons work.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:11 No.14424859
    Hey, I'd just fire up an acetylene torch and melt that fucking Cup. According to canon, enough fire destroys all artifacts. Contract terminated.
    >> Chronicler 03/31/11(Thu)01:12 No.14424860
    >>14424796

    That's a one horned one eyed flying purple people eater, by the way.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:13 No.14424868
    >>14424807

    The "complaint" was from this corner here, not the OP (if indeed the OP is even still around).

    And it seems what "works", according to the vast majority, is to simply bring in more firepower. It's not really a complaint, more generalized disappointment at the fact that this is all people can come up with.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:13 No.14424870
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    >>14424803
    Next up, what are the rules on having outside help? And where can I get a trebuchet on short notice?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:13 No.14424874
    >>14424811
    >transwoman
    Nope. You're a manchild. Deal w/ it, nerd.
    Also, I hope someone bashes your skull in with rocks.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:14 No.14424880
    >>14424852
    >I've noticed this. Nerds get really buttagitated about guns in fantasy for some reason.
    It's because people who don't know about guns assume they're some instant death thing that you just point at a person and have them die and there's nothing else to it. So yes, Avada Kedavra is the HP equivalent of a gun, as described by a stupid person.

    In other fantasy, it's just stupidity. People who think guns don't belong in fantasy or they're super-powerful don't realize how much damage an arrow or bolt does to the human body and how much strength is behind it.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:14 No.14424882
    >>14424791

    Simple-easy fix. And then they mind-wipe you so bad you drool for the rest of your life.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:14 No.14424888
    >>14424870
    Outside help is strictly forbidden. Contestants are expected to solve all the rounds on their own. However, it's understood that lots of cheating goes on and as long as no one is caught, no investigations are done.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:15 No.14424892
    Inform the various intelligence organs monitoring the Wizards that the time has come. The genocide contingency that had been planned out for years would only take about one night, and then the survivors go to work to find Goblins everywhere.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:16 No.14424902
    >>14424880
    The reason why arrows and bolts are more allowable is because they don't have the same RAPIDITY in firing.

    Though I would contend that the Chinese crossbow as invented by Sun Tzu would qualify as an auto-repeating crossbow and is horrifyingly deadly.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:17 No.14424909
    >It's because people who don't know about guns assume they're some instant death thing that you just point at a person and have them die and there's nothing else to it.

    Ultimately I ragequit from nwod for this reason (and no I never got a char of mine fucked up with bullets)
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:17 No.14424913
    >>14424868
    >more generalized disappointment at the fact that this is all people can come up with.
    I would suspect it's largely because (a) we don't give a fuck and (b) if we're going by the basis of "we don't know what the problems are" there's no real way to prepare for it other than bringing EVERYTHING.

    Hell, Harry & his friends had access to like the whole arsenal of magical herbs and potions and they basically had to be led to each solution - it was a plot point, even, since fake-Moony was helping them along. How are we supposed to make rational decisions about overcoming problems through mundane methods when even the actual characters in the story needed to be prodded and pushed to figure it out with the help of magic?

    So here's what you should have done:

    ATTN /tg/ HERE IS A RIDDLE FOR YOU SEE IF YOU CAN SOLVE IT
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:18 No.14424922
    >>14424902
    >they don't have the same RAPIDITY in firing.
    when people are talking about guns in fantasy they are talking about muskets

    and plenty of games have repeater-crossbows anyways
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:19 No.14424927
    >>14424880
    More likely, people don't like it because they want to preserve the "fantasy" feel to fantasy.

    Personally, I don't mind guns in a proper setting. I'm a fan of steampunk regardless.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:19 No.14424928
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    >>14424888
    Well, then I'll just use my 'muggle talking box' to summon rocks from the sky.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:21 No.14424944
    >>14424868
    Yeah, fair enough. As much "Science Fuck Yeah", awesomeness, and simple catharsis there is in taking the easy route and blasting the shit out of a dragon, it just perpetuates one of my biggest issues with the setting, the lack of magical creativity. As much as /tg/ is known for "get shit done!", it'd probably be more fun here to come up with more innovative ways to do the job. And this is coming from a guy who loved the MORE DAKKA options upthread.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:21 No.14424946
    >>14424922
    Well the thing gunpowder changed was the velocity of the projectile. Before that, it was rare to see an arrow puncture full plate unless it was a heavy artillery bolt. But with guns, they gave you a portable and handheld solution to armor. Hence why armor started to die off. A few special corps still wore like a single breastplate but that was mostly to stop knife attacks. After guns, armor is useless.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:23 No.14424963
    >>14424946
    Blind leading the blind, huh?

    To put it bluntly: no. You're wrong. You're not correct. The word "bulletproof" exists for a reason. Yes, guns EVENTUALLY reached the point where they made armor less than useful, but this period took HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:24 No.14424972
    >>14424946
    Not so. I've seen videos, longbows WILL punch straight through plate at a good hundred yards. It's the curves of it that deflect bolts, not the hardness.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:24 No.14424975
    >>14424946
    >Before that, it was rare to see an arrow puncture full plate
    >Plate before guns
    >hand cannons first used in the early 1300s
    >full plate first shows up in late 1300s
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:24 No.14424977
    >>14424963
    I said STARTED to die off you fuckfence. Take the Musketeer for example. Wearing a breastplate, carrying a sword, and a gun.

    But you can damn well bet that musket will shred that breastplate.

    And don't even get me started on the blunderbuss.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:25 No.14424985
    >>14424975
    >by CHINA
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:25 No.14424990
    >>14424944
    It's really just a matter of a few people getting nerd-rage going about THE RULES and BUT THE RULES ARE STUPID that's narrowing the discussion down. Also the triwizard tournament is different every time, and held in a different place as well, so saying "Okay you are muggle in tournament go" is not sufficient introduction to the problem for creativity to come into play. What are the trials, where are the trials being held, and are there any special rules that we should be aware of? Those are questions the OP should have answered for this thread to result in something more interesting than nerds arguing over how simple guns are and how complex magic can get.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:27 No.14424998
    >>14424944

    My thoughts exactly. Consider >>14424504 or >>14424715
    Slightly goofy, but much more interesting to consider than endless posts of "I bring an assault rifle." "Okay, I bring a tank." "Okay, I bring a battlemech!" "Okay, I call down an orbital satellite!" I'm not questioning their effectiveness, but it gets pretty stale and devolves into a "which weapon of mass destruction is your favourite, /tg/?"

    Sometimes it's just refreshing to see a player finesse or outwit a challenge rather than just bashing it on the head.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:27 No.14425001
    >>14424985
    13th CENTURY (i.e. 1200s) for China, thanks for reading Wikipedia wrong.

    >>14424977
    >But you can damn well bet that musket will shred that breastplate.
    Yeah, if you're like five feet away. There was a reason that Cuirassiers were still around in the 1800s.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:28 No.14425013
    >>14424977
    Are you kidding? Plate WILL offer protection against that musket ball. It might even deflect it if hit at an angle.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:31 No.14425041
    Okay. Folks? Combustion works. Chemicals work. Electricity does not. The laws of physics as affected by magic makes electrons not flow, or at least that's the going fan theory. Nothing else is consistent.

    Guns would work except the author didn't want them in. Find me chapter and verse where she says they don't work and I'll accept it. Otherwise, I'm still sticking to this explanation. And it means the car died because the alternator (or generator, as it is a particularly old model) won't function in a magic field.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:31 No.14425044
    I'm gonna use summa dat magic trinkets to make me a singularity generator.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:34 No.14425068
    >>14425041
    That's what I've been arguing. Combustion still happens, but guns don't work? Whoever tried to use one at hogwarts didn't know HOW to use it, and thusly wrote down that they don't work there. Logical assumption, I think.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:34 No.14425069
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    I will bring only one thing.

    And iPod with DragonForce's best on it.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:36 No.14425090
    >>14425068

    Or it's fucking MAGIC. You know. Because it is.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:37 No.14425101
    Use falling pianos to murder the rival champions. Winner by default.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:38 No.14425112
    >>14425090
    again: how are we supposed to come up with a logical solution to a given problem when the list of things that work and don't work is constantly changing

    nevermind the fact that no actual problem is given, just a hypothetical "there will be challenges" thing
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:40 No.14425129
    Magic that works ONLY inside guns? Riiiiiiight...
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:42 No.14425152
    >>14425090
    That, to me, is no answer at all. If magic works, our knowledge of physics is incomplete. It isn't somehow "outside" of physics. The fact that they attribute it to the supernatural just means "we don't know, either. It just works that way." If you find out the why and how, the implementation would be greatly improved. (See: The Spelljammer suggestion upthread.) Along the same lines, knowing the why and how allow you to figure out workarounds. Magic wouldn't just work by, well, magic.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:45 No.14425187
    kay, should we declare this thread officially dead now?
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:47 No.14425204
    >>14425187
    4chan does that for us. It's called autosage.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:49 No.14425228
    >>14425204
    >>14425187
    What do you guys think, worth archiving?
    >> Zangief !!YG0uo46UrxQ 03/31/11(Thu)01:49 No.14425229
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    >>14424715
    >>14424753
    >>14424803
    >>14424870

    I'd be rooting for you
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:50 No.14425242
    nah.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:50 No.14425244
    First challenge: A cow carcass filled with to the brim with Strychnine and Diazepam, and a catapult.

    Second challenge: Some of that weed Harry used, scuba fins, scuba mask, diver's knife, and a speargun. If I can't have that weed, and scuba tanks don't work, I chill on the dock and read a playboy or something.

    Third challenge: The magical maze. Several dozen road flares, a chainsaw, another couple of cow carcasses, a sled, and a horse.

    Oh, and I chat up the house elves and get friendly with them, then convince them to pull pranks with food prep for breakfast/dinner night before. I'm think massed laxitives would work nicely.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:51 No.14425249
    >>14424977

    Maybe if it were an actual BULLET or literally shooting a guy from a couple feet away the breastplate would be useless. Gotta remember, muskets and blunderbusses don't shoot bullets, they shoot ball-shaped projectiles. Unless you're using some kind of crazy overkill propellant which would probably fuck up the barrel after one shot or at REALLY REALLY close range the breastplate would actually serve you pretty well as defense from guns. You wouldn't want to be hit by one but it also probably wouldn't kill you.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:52 No.14425262
    >>14425041
    No that's really dumb and would result in everything within Hogwarts dying and the breakdown of all chemical bonds in the area. Electron exchange is important.

    Now, one might argue that muggle devices malfunctioning is due to the space-manipulation necessary to Hogwart's function. The founders, being easily amused idiots wanted their hallways to lead into other hallways on different floors and to have rooms appear out of nowhere and whatever, so they created a castle that, while its outer walls are consistent, is all sorts of spacially fucked up inside.

    In order to protect their students from dying of brain aneurisms and heart attacks every time they rescaled while crossing the invisible threshholds between chunks of malformed space, they made the Hogwarts wards such that they'd keep all of the living beings inside at consistent scales. They didn't extend this protection to every single object in the castle because magic doesn't grow on trees and also because they didn't see a need. They never even considered that someone would eventually invent mechanical devices that would only run while within microscopic tolerances in totally euclidean spaces. What kind of idiots would do that?

    One might argue that, but they'd be wrong. J.K. Rowling is just a boring old person who resents technology and couldn't find a way to reconcile its existence with her relatively unimaginative ideal fantasy world.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:54 No.14425287
    >>14425249
    >Gotta remember, muskets and blunderbusses don't shoot bullets, they shoot ball-shaped projectiles.

    bul·let (blt)
    n.
    1.
    a. A usually metal projectile in the shape of a pointed cylinder or a ball that is expelled from a firearm, especially a rifle or handgun.
    b. Such a projectile in a metal casing; a cartridge.
    2. An object resembling a projectile in shape, action, or effect.
    3. Printing A heavy dot ( · ) used to highlight a particular passage.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:56 No.14425296
    >>14425262
    Fair in-universe explanation, actually. If we think of Hogwarts as a TARDIS times a few million, a little fucked-uppedness is to be expected.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:56 No.14425303
    >>14425262
    I just ascribe the effect to the Clap Your Hands If You Believe trope. That has to be the only explanation for it.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:58 No.14425314
    >>14425287

    Ok, my bad. They shot badly made bullets that could be cast by a 7 year old.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)01:59 No.14425330
    >>14425314
    Basically, shot.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)02:01 No.14425346
    low velocity, round enough to bounce off curved surfaces.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)02:21 No.14425506
    Wasn't it stated that American wizards were actually pretty comfortable with tech and it was mostly just the European ones that were retarded? AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)02:30 No.14425582
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    >>14425229
    Thanks bro. I figure the trebuchet can take care of the dragon (if my team is accurate enough with it). If it's just wounded, I can bound in there on my moon boots and finish it off with the nailbat.

    Then it's me and SCUBAPONY down into the lake. Not a hundred percent sure how we're gonna get through this one, but me and SCUBAPONY have managed our way out of worse.

    For the maze, I just use my MOON BOOTS to jump over hedges like a madman, and bean any monsters I see with the nailbat.

    Might not win, but those wizards are gonna think twice before looking down on muggles. Because they're gonna have to keep looking up to make sure I'm not about to land on 'em with my MOON BOOTS.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)02:38 No.14425647
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    >>14422858

    I love this already! Thank you whoever you are!

    For the benefit of everyone else:
    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5782108/1/Harry_Potter_and_the_Methods_of_Rationality
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)03:24 No.14426071
    >>14425647
    That is the best shit ever. Also, one VERY important thing to bear in mind: Quirrel does not wear a turban and doesn't have a Voldemort face on the back of his head.
    >> Anonymous 03/31/11(Thu)04:10 No.14426493
    >>14422858

    I hate you. Because I'm going to be very low on sleep. Thanks.



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