That is amazing and fantastic, and if I was your DM I'd give you a charisma bonus just for attempting to roleplay it.

perfectly doable, and even has real-life precedents.

Edward William Barton-Wright is always related.

Your idea is good, and you should feel good.


Keep it Classy!

>>15476704

Why the fuck not? sounds fun as hell.

Just make sure you set a an example to all the uncouth people that have NO dignity.

Maybe the monk practices bartitsu (look it up, its awesome).

I see nothing wrong with this idea. In fact I find it most awesome. But remember, to take Combat Reflexes for additional attacks of opportunity, then take Combat Expertise and Dodge so you can take Karmic Strike. That way when you know your about to get hit you can 'CROSS COUNTER!'

>bartitsu

That had better be as awesome as it sounds.

Sounds like a practitioner of Bartitsu.

Hrm. So we made a monk gentlemanly.

How can we make a gentlemanly sorcerer?

Christopher Livingston Eubank is also related, being real-life Dudley and whatnot.

>>15476773
Bartitsu is one of the earliest mixed-martial arts, combining jujutsu with boxing, savate, swedish wrestling, and cane fighting.
founded by the gentleman pictured in >>15476734 and made famous by Sherlock Holmes.

Would you meditate by sampling and inspecting roses? If so, I approve.

(Dudley is my main)

OP, study the linguistic habits of Alex Louis Armstrong from Fullmetal Alchemist. If you can pull it off, your party will love you forever.
EH! WHAT DASTARDLY BEAST DARES DISTURB MY QUIET, INTROSPECTIVE MEDITATION? A DRAGON?! HAVE AT THEE, SCOUNDREL! TASTE THE FURY OF THE ARTISTIC DESTRUCTION THAT HAS BEEN PASSED DOWN THROUGH MY FAMILY LINE FOR GENERATIONS!!
Be sure you watch the Dub, though. His English voice actor does the character Great Justice!

Sounds like a good idea. Do you want some help writing it up?

The best part is, any race can be a classy gentleman.

>>15476827

or just do like Ali and speak entirely in verse:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali

Generic Other Player: "Okay, let's go to the Taverns to gather information"
GENTLE-MANLY: "I hold the Tavern door open for the party."

Generic Druid:"I cast Earth to Mud!"
GENTLE-MANLY: "I drape my coat over this square so the orcs can cross without getting dirty."

DM: "You stand before the antechamber of the Lich. Behind the door you can hear the clink of glass and slosh of fluids."
GENTLE-MANLY: "Hard at work with his experiments then. I knock firmly but softly on the door three times. As a readied-action I will apologize for the disruption if he opens the door."

>>15476784
>Make a sorcerer gentlemanly
Same mannerisms, different powers.
He would probably have less area spells, since no gentleman would actively hurt friends, civilians, or property.

>>15476704But where as most martial artists follow sacred enlightened texts, he follows the path of GENTLEMANLINESS.

DAPPER-----SCRUFFY
GENTLEMAN-----HOOLIGAN

I am going to play a gentleman character next game I´m in.

Its decided.

this is wonderful

>>15477165

Good lord, I laughed far too hard at this.

all my characters wind up gentleman, even the barbarians.

>>15477100
I am doing likewise... With extreme prejudice

>>15477227
After I play a few casting classes, I'm going to make my Angry Noble Barbarian. I'm going to convince the DM to trade all the rural survivalism stuff for things that would be useful in the courts. If I play him right, we'll have a lot of duels at dawn and he'll bed a queen or two. Possibly, he'll be an Elf.

>>15476734
That picture looks silly and incredibly fucking awesome at the same time.

I SO goddamn want to play a gentleman warrior now. Probably a warblade or (unarmored) swordsage rather than a monk. Maybe with a level of sorcerer so he can use Cantrip to keep his appearance (and the appearances of his party members) immaculate.

Hm... actually, how much would a magic item that allows the bearer to cast Cantrip at will cost?

>>15477227

I'm picturing him kicking in the door and apologizing profusely at the top of his lungs as he courteously introduces his axe to the inhabitant's chest.

>>15477290

instead of Raging, you have OUTRAGING

which boosts your combat and impassioned speachmaking abilities.

>>15477295
My it a (su) or (ex) power and call it a racial ability.

OP, that is fantastic and a dapper gent is officially on my list of D&D characters I need to eventually play.

>>15477296I'm picturing him kicking in the door and apologizing profusely at the top of his lungs as he courteously introduces his axe to the inhabitant's chest.

"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing."

>>15477308
"You, sir, are a coward and a rapscallion! I will have nothing more to do with you, nor will my associates! GOOD DAY!"

>>15477308

>OUTRAGING

You win.

>>15477296

Good sir Lich, I am ever so sorry to intrude! Indeed a thousand pardons for such brusque mannerisms, but I simply must insist that you reconsider your plan to boil the fair citizens of this village alive!

*ker-chop*

Oh, heavens! I fear my axe does not have the patience for a civil discussion on the matter. This simply won't do!

Might just be because I watch unforgotten realms. But you need a magic talking weapon. You don't need to use it. Just have gentlemanly conversations with it.

>>15477375
"Excuse me chap, but my companion seems to be impaled in your back. Please return him, for we must make a meeting at the local pub."

>>15477295
> Hm... actually, how much would a magic item that allows the bearer to cast Cantrip at will cost?

Assuming you mean Prestidigitation (it was called Cantrip in older editions): Use activated wonderous item, caster level 1, spell level 0 (treated as 0.5) = 1,000 GP for an item that lets you cast Prestidigitation at will.

If you just want it to be useable at will and all it does is clean you and your clothes off, comb your hair for you, and straighten your mustache (or curl, as desired), then I'd call it a 500 GP item, myself, but by the book you can't do that.

>>15476853
Yes. YES. I would love someone doing the brainy think work

BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF PEOPLE WITH YOUR WALKING STICK!

I'd stat it as a light mace.

>>15477460
Gonna need some input first. Are you deadset on a monk, or would another class like swordsage or warblade do?

Also, fists or walking stick? Or both? Or something else?

>>15477478
Couldn't we flurry of blows with a walking stick as a gentlemen's weapon?

OP: Are we building for 3.5 or 3.75?

request the DM that the BBEG be a vampire gentleman monk.

and the final confrontation will be remembered as "The Battle of the Rose"

>>15477478
Was set on Bartitsu though unarmed swordsage may work. I apologize as I know nothing of the class

>>15477496
If 3.75 is classified as pathfinder, I would enjoy that as that is most frequently played. If not, 3.5 works.

>>15477526
If you can use it I strongly recommend Tome of Battle, largely because it gives warriors options besides "I try ti hit/trip it again" or "I move here, then try to hit/trip it again."

Assuming you're starting at level 1... Well, give me a little bit to work up some basics.

>>15477526
I'd use the Monk of the Empty Hand Archetype, and not stat his cane at all - just leave it as a cane, and treat it as an improvised weapon (which could also include his bolwer's hat, his monacle, pocketwatch and fob, or even a pair of gloves). This gives him the ability to use flurry of blows ith his 'weapons', magical empowerment of his 'weapons', and can also let him do his unarmed strike damage with his weapons as well. Take a vow of cleanliness (A tidy person is a person who lives an orderly life!) and a vow of truth (A Gentleman's WORD, my friends, is never in doubt!) to increase his ki pool.

>>15477526
>>15477542

the swordsage monk ACF doesn't give him the monks martial weapons if i recall proper. Only his Unarmed Strike Progression. However, Swordsage monk is best monk. A funny trick would be to take Exotic weapons Master ( walking cane ) just a two level dip if you get my drift. And throw anything will lead to some hilarious situations.

blah wish i had my computer I would help work something out.

Are you going wisdom or dex based? I was thinking Wisdom / Char would be hilarious.

>>15477574

improvised weapon and throw anything ... now we are getting somewhere.

is that archetype from pathfinder?

>>15477615
Pathfinder APG, yes.
Ultimate Magic has the vows under the Spellcaster's section, and all they do is increase your ki pool a little, but every little bit will count - they're also very appropriate for a gentleman.

This also allows them to retain the potent stunning fist upgrades for PF monks as well as including improvised weapon mastery in their repertoire of freebie feats.

>>15476704
Absolutely. He's just following a different code than most monks. He could seek enlightenment through gentlemanly conduct.

Maybe there's a Perfect Gentlemanly Act somewhere and one of his life goals is to obtain it?

>>15477636Maybe there's a Perfect Gentlemanly Act somewhere and one of his life goals is to obtain it?


Monk's tearful backstory can be he was a street rapscallion until one day he tried to flinch the pouch of a gentleman in the markets

Taken back and given first bath of his life. Street filth and uncouth ways washed away over time by gentleman's virtue.

Monastery attacked by brutes. Abbot fights them by the rules of fair play, they cheat and use underhanded poisons.

etc. etc.

>>"Live my boy, live... like a gentleman!"

It was a crisp sunday morning, and Percival Winthrop Orrington was enjoying his the end of his brunch with a particularly well made cup of tea for this region, which he made strict note to ask the innkeeper what leaf was used and to leave a well deserved tip. As he sipped, his companion, a lecherous rogue finally awoke and descended the inn's stairs. A vulgar, if not useful, wretch if Percival had ever met one.

"Oi, Percy, wot 'ave ye got there?"

"Please refrain from calling me "Percy", if you would. And this is is a cup of tea, sir."

"Wot ye drinkin' tea fer Percy? Ye ain't summun's mum fer cryin out...."

Vulgar. Yet as the unclean man walked towards the door, a particularly large man stood up, with two others brandishing clubs.

"We've been waiting for you, bastard! You slept with my daughter!"

The rogue backed away slowly, hand on a shortsword at his hip. as the men in front of him tried to circle around him.

This was twice that the rogue had disheveled a maiden's virtue whilst travelling together. And again, Percival stood up.

"Gentlemen. I understand your feelings towards my companion, and you are certianly entitled to redeem the honor of your daughter. However, my companion would surely attempt to harm you further than the situation calls for. If I could intervene on his behalf, perhaps fisticuffs could satisfy you..."

The tea would have to wait. For friends, even foul friends, must be protected.

>>15477692
Sounds beautiful. If he starts from level 1, his initial quest has to be to locate these hooligans, and administer a sound thrashing the likes of which they shan't soon forget!

Hmm there has to be a school for this. what is the ultimate way to train to be a gentleman? A thousand press ups without dirtying one's shirt? Ten thousand punches while keeping one's pipe lit?

I tried to pick stuff that seemed appropriate rather than was was most powerful.

Swordsage level 1 (Gentleman)

FEATS:
Improved Unarmed Strike
Adaptive Style

Maneuvers Known
Moment of Perfect Mind
-(DM; Use Concentration check instead of Will save)

Sappire Nightmare Blade
- (DM; Make a Concentration check (DC = target's AC) immediately before attacking. If successful, target is treated as flat-footed. If unsuccessful, you take -2 to hit for that attack)

Mighty Throw
- (SS; Make trip attack at +4. If successful, you can throw target up to 10 feet. You cannot be counter-tripped and do not provoke an AoO)

Wolf Fang Strike
- (TC; Attack one enemy with second weapon or unarmed strike as a standard action. Both attacks take -2 to hit.)

Counter Charge
- (SS; Make opposed Str or Dex check vs. charging opponent as an immediate action. If successful you can move it up to 10' away from you in a direction you choose. If you fail your check, target gets additional +2 to hit on top of standard +2 from charging. If target is larger and you choose Dex you get +4 to your check. If target is smaller and you choose Str you get +4 to your check)

Blistering Flourish
- (DW; All creatures within 30' of you must make a Fort save (DC 11+your Wis mod) or be dazzled for 1 minute.)

Stance:
Island of blades
- (SH; any enemy you and an ally are both adjacent to is considered flanked even if you're not in proper position to normally flank.)

There was a wuxia flick called Dirty Ho about a rapscallion thief who gets involved with one of the emperor's sons....the Eperor's son was only interested in Fine wines, collictible antiques, and kung fu. This is that man.

Obligatory.

Bump, goddammit

This thread has dignity.

bumpity bump bump, bumpity bump bump

>>15477965
You sir are no gentlemen, I'm quite sure you can find your own way to the door. But if not i will be forced to gently admonish you and send you on your way.

>>15477997
I'm quite sorry but it is not in my nature to give in so easily unlike some unsavory company i could mention.

In the Gentleman's Way, all creatures are equal provided they follow it.

Look at Sir X'chellington Slimesfellow here.

>>15477997
>>15477997
Dear sir, I would kindly ask you to stop this unkindness, lest I show you to the door.

>>15477997
Your comment now in amazing proper english. "Your grasp of formal speaking leaves something to desire. I'd reccomend ceasing such talk until you can study on its proper usage. And if i may speak freely, im a disreputable rake who should not speak as such to my betters. Allow me to show myself to the door." Feel free to copy that and repost it, and ill be prefectly willing to pretend you never posted the former assault on the english language.

>>15478022

Slimesfellow is no gentleman! The cad agreed to date my sister in thought of making her acquaintance and there was not a single luminous Underdark Rose in the bouquet he brought! I shall challenge that rogue to a duel when next invited to his monthly Subterranian Luncheon!

If i may speak candidly, i'd never allow any of my kin to "date" a slimesfellow. Nothing good comes from low breeding, if you catch my drift old boy.

My word, gentlemen! Although it is true that a proper gentlemen should be able to defend his honor, I do believe that diplomacy should be put to use, at least on this case concerning languages. Us gentlemen should act civilized whenever possible, correct?

>>15478096
> Us gentlemen

Pardon me, sir, but I do believe you mean "We gentlemen."

>>15478096
What would you have me do? Does the front of my shirt say doormat? I have every right to run this ruffian through with 18inches of steel after his aggressive shot at my at my mastery of decorative speech.

>>15478109

yeah, nah. yer a cunt.

>>15478121
Now such language is not only uncalled for, it is disgusting. I challenge you to the field of honor though i know you posses none. The choice of weapon is yours.

>>15478103
Ah, pardon my language, for English is my second or third language. Sometimes my inexperience shows up.
>>15478109
Good sir, even if your shirt does contain words similar to doormat, a better way other than violence is to berate him. Show how you are more superior than he is, or how the rapscallion gutter trash is indeed what he is. Or perhaps awe him, so that he would think twice before slandering you again.
But then again, after doing that, a little self-reflection is also good for the soul. Don't you agree?

>>15478130

aww go stuff it up yer arse yeh great peacock, you.
prancin' about like a mad cunt, goin' on like yeh think yer better 'n everyone.

I'd spit on yeh if this weren' th' internet.

>>15478132
You have laid my soul bare and have revealed my lack of breeding. I am quite aware that my proclivity towards violence is a trait of the low born and something i must remedy. I offer you my humblest apologies.

>>15477431

Oh. OOOHH. Make it a hat. Then whenever you get torn up or filthy or unkempt or otherwise substandard, you can just tip your hat and be instantly pristine again.

>>15478153
The time for words is over, Your manners are both disgusting and as unpresentable in public as im sure your appearence is. It is time to place the rubbish in the proper recepticle. Now will you choose your weapon, or must i chalk this up as a job for the constable?

>>15478168

christ in a bucket would you just shut yer fuckin' gob already 'fore I cut you a new one, yeah?

>>15478217
Im quite sure your swordsmanship is as unpolished and brash as your speech. I'd like to speak to the manager of this establishment though, to think that they allowed one such as you into here is ample proof that it has fallen into dire straits.

>>15478217
Have at you, foul-mouthed cur!

>>15477355
> I fear my axe does not have the patience for a civil discussion on the matter.

>>15477574
I'm sorry, I've never really paid attention to the monk class, but does something similar to the Monk of the Empty Hand exist in D&D3.5?

My party's monk was just an alcoholic dwarven bouncer who was drafted into the army. He went around punching and drinking and eventually opened a bar with another dwarf who had lost his leg in the war. From then on he went around making deals to get more different beers for his bar, and even got another bar. Our DM even gave him a golem after we managed to talk it onto our side and replace its hand with a mug.

>>15478357
> alcoholic dwarven

you can just say dwarf, the alcoholism is implied.

>>15478357

I hope your bar was called the MineShaft

because you could forge that sexual tension there into a very gay axe.

My good sirs, this thread MUST be archived, for the enlightenment of future generations of noble gentlemen.

>>15478454
a capital idea good sir

>>15479210
Why is it so hard to not love Minus?

>>15479231

Because Minus is magic.

>>15479210
>>15479274
i find minus adorable and unsettling.

also
>>15478159
this. this is an amazing idea.

>>15479210
>>15479274
Nice art, but... I don't get it. Is there some overlaying story arch I don't see?

>>15479618
Little girl from the far future dicking about a computer simulation of the past. Everything bad that happens in the series is entirely her fault, but it doesn't matter because everyone other than her died thousands of years before. They don't count as people.

>>15479627

Nobody ever said that.

There is no explanation.

She's just God.

With a set bedtime.

>>15476704
Sounds like a Combat Butler to me.

SO nowdays monks turned from reference to disciplined and ascetic shaolin warriors to anyone who fights unarmed - martial artists, thugs, and drunken irish.

This concept amuses me. I can see Dudley running around various games saying "gutta trash".

>>15480032
I propose that we use Dudley in the same way the WWE uses Stone Cold Steve Austin. Whenever the story runs flat, Dudley shows up and beats up everyone for not being gentlemanly enough, just like Stone Cold shows up and Stunners everyone.

COSTERMONGER CLASS EQUIVALENT?

Dammit, add a gentlemanly outdoorsman (ranger) for a character I want to play if I ever play D&D again. The list of crazy characters just keep on growing. I've had the luchador even before I read about El Tiburon, then there's the vampire for 4th Edition, an artificer that makes guns out of everything and plenty of other ones I can't think of right now.

>>15480128
Mr. Raffles is pretty much a D&D character and you know it.

I would love to see the various effects a gentleman monk would have on the people he tries diplomacy on. Noble ladies being swept off their feet, common ladies being left feeling like nobles even though they didn't understand what was said. Ruffians getting offended by this highfalutin pansy-speak or possibly being humbled into wanting to mend their ways, at least just this once. Merchants yelling boisterously to their surrounding patrons and competitors about how fine his product is that it attracted such a fine man of upstanding bearing, or straight freaking the fuck out when they get called on the poor craftsmanship of their product.

>>15477714


A shining example for us all.

OP enjoy!

This build is not optimized. Nor is it perfect but it's fucking GENTLEMANLINESS. I didn't think this PC should have anything Lower then a 12. So based on 32 points it's hard to Optimize it but I think I am in a good spot

Cool shit with this build.

You can use ANYTHING as a weapon, from a glove to a walking stick, to your Monocle. Doing so does 4d8+4+1d4 an attack. Not bad? You can take 5 attacks.

You can THROW ANYTHING. Same as above.

You can't get drunk unless you DRINK a shit load of booze.
You grant you allies plus's to their charisma checks..because a GENTLEMEN inspires competence.
You can gamble like a mother fucker.
You don't Age
You Can Speak to anything. ( no really anything )
You can jump stupid high for no reason.


I am the same dude who build the Swifthunter Lizard, the Buffing Bard, and the sword chucking Samurai and the worlds most useless DnD character, and an Archivist in the last couple of days. If you have any questions Let me know.

>>15481054

Blah I should mention that the first two levels are Marshell taking Negotiation and dodge ( or Greater endurence you need both for Drunken Master) The auras are Presence ( major ) and Motivate charisma. You get Skill focus Diplo for free. Then three levels of monk and your 6th level is Drunken master. After that straight monk.
the other feats you can take in any order but I suggest, Sup. Unarmed Strike and Imp Natural Attack asap.

You do no need Force of personality I just think it's cool for fluff. It does give you a 26 will save to most will based spells. Brutal throw was a choice I took because I wanted to be more STR based. Even though Dex and STR are the same after magic items.

bump

>>15481054
I do not believe I have ever encountered a situation where it was more fitting to call someone a gentleman and a scholar! Thank you sir!

>>15483590

many welcomes sir. Many welcomes indeed. If you need any further clarity please let me know.

>>15481054
>>15481054

What was the most useless character?

>>15483745

there are two.

either 20 fighter who takes the best melee feats and uses a crossbow

of 20 , 1 dips into 0 bab classes while using a crossbow. Both are equally as bad. the 0 bab class has a ton of skills making him better.

>>15483745
>>15483778

i should have just linked the build

Any ideas what would be the best way to make a gentlemanly character in Dungeons the Dragoning 40k?

For example, what alignment would be best?

>>15484663
I don't know anything about that particular game, but any Lawful alignment would probably work. Y'know, since you follow a strict code of gentlemanliness.

Good sirs, I'm sorry for any trouble caused but it seemed an absolute necessity that thread be seen. Some hooligans have been about and acting most brutishly.

>>15486402

why dear chap i do dare decree that i hope you are feeling well after taking care of those precarious hooligans.

It occurs to me that the Henshin Mystic PrC would be quite thematically appropriate for a gentleman monk. A number of the class abilities are quite apt for one who abhors dirty fighting -- it gains Uncanny Dodge (not by that name, but it's the same effect), Diamond Body (faster than you can get it going full monk), Blind Fight (and, at higher levels, BlindSIGHT). Plus the PrC levels stack with your monk levels for your unarmed damage, flurry of blows, speed increases, and AC bonus (not like the last one's worth much of anything, but just throwing it out there). And improves your ki strike (also kind of a lolbenefit, but hey).
And you could probably refluff it as pursuing an ideal of dapperness rather than divinity...

My old DM made a DIETY like this actually.

>>15487248
A gentleman deity? I dare say, that is downright dapper!

bump for awesome

You mean bump for gentlemanliness!

>>15493971
Indeed, stay classy good sir.

>mfw i'm already playing a gentleman thief in my campaign