==Command Staff==
Lieutenant Kateryna Ivanova - Executive Officer
>Second Lieutenant Dray Parson - Intelligence Officer (Cryo)
Second Lieutenant Robert Tynes - Steward
Chun-Fan Dai - Chief Engineer
Third Lieutenant Mardigan “Guns” Rinn - Weapons Officer
Dr. Christof Burr - Physician

==Junior Officers==
Ensign Fie - Communictions Officer
Ensign DuBois - Staff officer
Ensign Tremko - Staff officer
Ensign Rao - Staff officer

==Persons of Note==
>Dr. Eliphim Ketro -- Civilian Scientist (Cryo)

Previous Threads:

1: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15474877/
2: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15527576/
3: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15547424/
4: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15558914/
5: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15581324/
6: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15603188/
7: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15626860/
8: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15671288/
9: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15681393/
10: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15702140/
11: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15725852/
12: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15749179/
13: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15760403/
13-2: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15765549/
14: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15783485/
15: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15807704/
16: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15856771/
17: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15880596/
18: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15904452/

>Also, when archiving make sure to include the thread number in the title and a "Void Quest" tag.

Do we have proper facilities on-board for a clean containment and safe work-environment in order to open up the pods?

Doing it on the moon seems nigh impossible to me, so if we do not have facilities on board... well, then we have to leave them down there.

Speaking of contained - do we have a decent decontamination on our ship?
Also, Ved, I'd like to thank you for going for a 3 day marathon, you deserve a medal, man! :) :)

I'm getting the heeby-jeebies just reading about this place. I really wouldn't mind if we just pulled everyone out, ran them through decontamination and quarantine for a month or so, and just spaceshipped the fuck out of this system.

If we really want to get the cyro pods, we should probably put them in an entirely separate, airtight-sealed part of the ship from everyone else. Once we get them out, wake the people up one by one and have everyone in the sealed section wearing hazard suits.

>>15916868
At any rate, if we have proper decon- and containment facilities on board: We try to move the cryopods but do NOT yet try to enter the vaults. Too much hassle, might not be worth it (or worse: We might not like what we find inside)


However, if we do not have the necessary equipment (we are a warship after all, not a bio-hazard-cleanup-vessel), I say we abort the mission, get our guys back on board, seal the facility as good as we can and move to the other precursor system, try our luck there.

>>15916825
>About the still liquid blood etc.

Would a vacuum suffice for that to occur, or could the whole facility have been encased in a stasis field?

>>15916885
Oh, I forgot.

There's still the planet.


so I say...

... If we have sufficiently equipped facilities on board to decontaminate and quarantine the pods: Get them on our ship.
... If we do not have these facilities, open the pods planetside. We might endanger the whole biosphere, but what does it really matter?

I am with the other guy, just pulling out and nuking the site from orbit seems like a more and more attractive option.... :-/

>>15916891
NO!

Liquids in a hard vacuum will initially boil, then freeze after a short period of time. The Liquid is a clear indicator of "dun goofed enough" :D

>Voidquest
>The rest of my day is now complete

>>15916898
You have standard decontamination facilities in all shuttle bays and cargo holds and a quarantine facility in both the brig and medbay.

Go back to the administrative offices and check their computers.

Let's go find some humans.

>>15916934
Agreed. If this is a mainly civilian facility, some Idiot will have written down his password.

>>15916950
Well more than that, access to an administrative computer system will give us a better idea, even if it's still vague but clearer than what we have now, idea of what they were actually doing here.

>>15916916
"Lieutnant, you are to aiden the drones in connecting the pods to their power supply. You and the cargo will be shipped back on board, undergo a full deconatimation routine. You will then be quarantined and checked thoroughly by Dr. Burr in the medbay, while the pods will be brought to the brig and put under quarantine there."

To Burr:

"Doctor, we have guests arriving rather shortly. I want you to check up on the integrity of both medbay and brig. Have your subordinates prepare a full decontamination of our away-team and cryopods wich will be arriving. I trust you'll ensure the safety of both our guys returning home and the rest of the ship as well. Is there anything you need? Do you have any second thoughts or suggestions, warnings?"

If even one of those civvies can be made alive we might be able to get enough access to at the very least safe us a lot of trouble.

I don't think we can save the first one we thaw, or maybe even the second. But after we poke around in them some we may be able to find a way to do it, so don't try the most important ones until we've given a few goes at it.

>>15916934
>>15916950
>>15916956

On top of that, appearently, we hack the administrative sectors systems and try to gain further insights.


I see no conflict of interests or ideas as of yet - do you have enough to write, Vedi?


We MIGHT actually move along quickly today.... :)


I'm crossing my fingers! :D

>>15916958
I think it's too early for that. We should try to find out more before we go about unfreezing anybody, or even dealing with them and their cryo chambers.

>>15916913
So, can our drones or the explorers analyse some of the liquids without bringing them onboard the Harbinger?

I hope our biology expert brought some equipment.

Vedibere, got a question about some lore;

What was the name and rank of the person we directly reported to?

>>15917058
Admiral Gray Orson

>>15917097
Thanks.

I would advise against opening the cryos on board.
This is extremely advanced research facility which could not contain the virus.
We better search for a place somewhere on the planet or make it ourself.

Hate to say it, but if we don't find any satisfying solution to this problem, we better let these people be.


Call for Dai and ask him what we could do with the Singularity reactor.
Also, do we have heavy equipment which could open the vaults?

>>15917097
middle name "Wells"? aka Admiral "I'll make a war of the worlds whenever I want" Orson?^^


To the guy above: Caution is right, but I see no benefit in slowing down progression of the story. If we discuss every detail and slow down in itsy bitsy steps, we won't get anywhere.


I say, get them onboard, take all securitymeasures necessary, hack the computersystems in the administrative sector.

We can do it at once.

We should do it :)

>>15917118
also, FUCK, its orson WellEs, I just made a fool out of myself by not remembering his names proper spelling :( :-/

I'm loath to say it because I think defrosting the pods would be a massive risk, but if there's anybody at the facility important enough to warrant knowing the codes, they're probably going to be important enough to have a cryopod for themselves.

Can we make any identifications from the administrative level data who was in charge of the facility, and match the name to a person in cryo?

>>15917128
( ' L_' )

>>15916916
If people do end up voting to bring the pods on board to the quarantine zones make sure that the atmosphere is purged in all the corridors they have to pass through and that you scour all of the surfaces with radiation afterwords.

All ground crew to stay in a second seperate quarantine zone to ensure nothing made it through the suits as well.

Also, is there a way to check for nannites? the liquid food and blood suggests them rather than biologicals.

>>15917163
I would suggest getting information on a possible cure before we defrost anybody.

If I remember correctly, the speed of the agent surprised them, not the agent itself. It might be possible that they had already developed something to stop it and could apply it in time.

Hey, I was just browsing the last thread, and I came across that bit of info about all the liquid substances still being liquid despite the amount of time they've been down here and the considerable radiation, apparently due to whatever happened here.

I'm curious, can we analyze a sample of this strangely non-evaporating liquids to see what's unusual about them?

>>15917199
Don't forget, not just the liquids, but also all the food hasn't rotten or decayed through simple breakdown due to the radiation or time, and the bodies don't appear to have entered rigor mortis.

>>15917199
People have suggested such a course of action both in the last as in this thread.

so it's another vote for trying to analyze it, wich I support.


Ved is probably (hopefully) writing already :)

What sort of immortality were they working on here?

Judging by the names, bad vampire tropes come to mind.

>>15917163
Also, they could tell us if Erella may have accidentally infected herself when she took off the armored section of her glove to examine that body.

I would recommend not picking anything up to analyze it until we find some more intelligence on what was going on here.

"Oh, hey. I analyzed this goop here, and for some reason it started eating through my armor. So uh, looks like I'm fucked."

>>15917284
From the description it did not appear as though she compromised the integrity of her hazsuit by taking off the armoured glove.

Something doesn't add up.

They knew what they were working on, they had counter measures to hold it off, they also should have known it was airborne.

Why no gasmasks? Why radiation, when it's clearly not effective? Why was something else not used instead?

I know whatever it was mutated, but these people were so overwhelmingly unprepared I'm left scratching my head trying to see them in any way as professionals. Why was it even out in the open and not in a nasa moonrock type crib?

Also, "mutations" make me wonder what the nature of this thing even is.

>>15917299
If it were eating through nonorganic materials, then the crypods etc would have been compromised from the get-go.

Since the people still fled to the pods, I would assume that the virus does not simply penetrate biohazard equipment.

>>15917326
Super cold temperatures (ie. cryo-freeze) prevents all chemical reactions from occuring. That's why it works as a method of stasis for long trips. Whatever was wrong could very well have penetrated the pods and just be stuck in stasis as it happened.

>>15917307
Not immediately, but from the description in the last thread the microbes or whatever the are were apparently capable of eating through the seals they had in place in this facility. Even though whatever it was apparently mutated, it could still have the ability. It could be eating through the seal of her underarmor right now.

>>15917313
When we first heard of this the man talked about stages. It may be that they were testing on live subjects and miscalculated an incubation period or something.

>>15917361
>>15917361
This makes no sense.

If it were eating through non-organics, it would indiscriminantly destroy the cryo-pods, disabling their freezingmechanism in the process.

>>15917313
I think the radiation makes it dormant. That is why we cannot allow it even inside our isolated facilities on board. If shit hits the fan, we cannot irradiate our ship almost to the point that unisteel melts

I say we procure as much information about the project this lab was dealing with ASAP and then bump the cryo pods gently back to a location where they can be safely opened. If we find enough info on exactly what the hell is going on, we might be able to open them and get anwsers from the scientists.

FIND AS MUCH GOD DAMN INFORMATION AS WE CAN BEFORE REMOVING ANYTHING FROM THIS PLACE.

JESUS.

Start with administrative offices and computers. Then any others we could reasonably get into.

>>15917402
It depends on whether it's "eating through" or "the seals aren't tight enough to prevent passage".

If it's "eating through you're looking at a gray goo scenario so that's unlikely.

But being small enough to pass through the seals actually seems somewhat likely where the entire facility was taken out rather than just the one lab. It had to breach containment somehow after all and I'd expect the only vents in the lab to lead directly to space.

Also, the encrypted message had explosions ... or loud booming. Whatever that was.

>You begin play and immediately a haggard face appears; a man in his apparent fourties, pale and bleeding from eyes, nose, and ears. “This is Doctor Sarij Mhareef,” he breaks off, coughing and hacking up a glob of bloody sputum before continuing, “Project Namtar and Project Scion have become unviable. Test cases for both strains progressed from stages two to three much faster than anticipated, biological containment seals were eaten away between the containment areas. Unanticipated mutation resulted. As a temporary measure we’ve repurposed some of the specimen transport containers into cryopods and begun freez-” There is a tremendous deep booming in the background, overriding his words briefly, “-acting emergency containment protocols. Advise extreme caution, armed force, and full biohazard protocols. Research team’s pods are in the lowest levels. Advise landing on opposite side of moon and approaching by ground, all defenses active.”

>He coughs again, this time covering his mouth with a hand and sinking down as blood runs from between his fingers, leaving nothing but a view of the wall and a loud booming before the comm ends.


Anyway, apparently the seals were biological and not non-organic. Weird.

Also, he advised armed force. Did he think there were some hostiles or did he suggest that for the automated defenses?

>>15917447
Wish we could filter out the noise that cut him off and hear the whole thing.

>>15917447
"biological seals" would refer to "seals designed to prevent biologicals from passing through them" not actual biological matter.

moot, you're such a fucking asshole

>YOUR COMMENT CAN'T BE POSTED

>>15917467
Uh, why can't we filter out the excess noise? Doesn't software that can do that exist in real life?

>Namtar
>Ratman

Hmm

>>15917447

>>15917493
>Scion
>Noics

>>15917488
I'm not even going to try and guess which part is triggering that filter.

But you make a few good points.
Any information we find may not help us in the least.

Just finished reading Vedi's posts in the last thread. So what's the general consensus on what this shit is? Because right now it sounds to me like nanobots that are acting like a space-age tuberculosis (aka "the red death").

>>15917578
It's not nanobots, they die to quickly and shouldn't be able to "mutate" in this setting.

Biological in nature, certainly. But I can't attempt to guess more.

Could we create some kind of sealed enviroment outside of our ship, on the planet surface perhaps, where conditions would be good enough to open the cryo pods and asking the people in them what exactly is going on? Like a shuttle maybe, just more expendable. ... an atmosphere-holding tent on the surface?

Anyways, the biggest problem I see with this is that the pods that we have now aren't openable, at least not without killing the people in them. We should search deeper for the proper pods and open one of them, if they're actually safe.

>>15917589
Biological nanobots. That are suppressed by high amounts of radiation. Obviously.

>>15917589
Biological... How could any liquid stay in that form for so long without active measures against it...

Interesting...

Hey. We still have that bird alien right? Why don't we introduce it to some of this weird blood and see what happens?

>>15917589
The nanobots that /we/ as players know about die too quickly, the research facility could have been doing research to extend their life, or convert them to biological form.

We know nothing about what they were doing.

The void quest of the past thread and this one would be pretty comfortable in a Lovecraft novel, I think.

You know, why isn't the blood evaporating? Even with all the radiation, there's been over 64,000 years for the water in the blood to evaporate.
Perhaps we should send a drone to check the cafeteria and see if the drinks are still liquid as well.

>>15917699
Maybe the bacteria can affect TIME ITSELF.

>>15917699
My guess is that whatever this "project" is, replaced that water in hydrating everything here.

“The administrative section is the next step for now. Computer systems, reports, anything we can find to determine what has gone on here.”

“Sir, I doubt we’ll be able to hack more than one terminal at a time. Facilities like this have extremely restrictive measures in place on access.” Ivanova observes

“I know, but getting to the core is presently not within my ability and this is the next best step. Do you believe the plasma cutters and drills we have onboard would be enough to burn through the vault doors?”

She remains silent for a moment before nodding, “Yes, I think so with time. Perhaps a week?”

Hmmm. “Very well. Move out, let’s see what was going on here.”

“Sir.”

####################

What follows is several hours of harsh tedium. The luxurious offices of the administration and their secretaries are filled with information, but finding it and understanding it are different issues. You task Erella to compiling the technical data in the reports, Rinn with exploring the area, and Ivanova with searching the offices.

You turn your attention to the various personal terminals in each offices, slowly working your way through each one and opening data access for Erella while observing what you can. After four hours you’ve determined that “Project Namtar” and “Project Scion” were the only two currently active projects at the base. There are several references to past endeavours, including “Project Helios” and “Project Midnight”, but only in passing. Over four hundred scientists, managers, and support staff lived on site 24/7, divided in a 2 to 1 ratio favoring “Project Namtar”.

Finally, you call a stop to the work. There are enormous backlogs of data, reports, and technical specifications to sort through and at some point one simply must take stock.

“Ivanova, Rinn, have you found anything of interest?” you begin.

“Well, most’a the people seem to have left in a hurry like the rest of the base. Coffee and such on the desks still liquid like the rest, computer terminals still on with logins timed out.” Rinn replies.

“The offices appear to belong to respectably ranked intelligence officers like one would expect for overseeing a secret project of this size. The records only deal with the current projects, I assume the reports for previous ones are either wiped, held in the core, or locked in the vaults below.” Ivanova agrees.

Erella is the last to speak up, “I think I’ve gotten a rough idea of the progress of the projects. ‘Namtar’ is the main one, it looks like a microbial lifeform they were trying to weaponize. The reports are really talking up the progress they’ve made... even more than managment usually does. I think they really were moving along at an exceptional rate with development. It says they’ve moved from “Phase Zero” to “Phase One” and are beginning work on “Phase Two”. From the attached technical specs I’d guess “zero” to “one” was the initial weaponization. I do see some concerns about it being too lethal and possibly inhibiting spread, but “Phase Two” is apparently supposed to fix that. But it is a report to their superiors.”

“Right. What about Scion?”

“Mmmm,” she hums thoughtfully, turning her head before yawning despite the helmet, “Excuse me. It looks like research into improving existing anti-aging gene-mod technology with some additional benefits added on. I can’t really say from this how far along they were, but it looks like the “additional improvement factors” had been successfully added.”

>>15917699

They were. And soup/stew was still liquid. That's what's so off-putting about this place- it was open to hard vaccuum and irradiated to SHIT and back, and liquids are still... liquid.

I'm starting to wonder if it's not a microbiological horror, but more of a lovecraftian one. Some kind of bio-terror weapon that drove the people there insane. wouldn't explain the liquids though.

Use Scion on ourselves.

Gently.

>>15917744

welp, that answers that.

>>15917745
> wouldn't explain the liquids though.

Maybe it's the anti-aging thing at work?

>>15917785
>>15917710

See, I told you.

>>15917744
sounds to me as though scion was healing the damage that namtar was causing as fast as it happened, excruciating maddening pain ensues (hence the eye and face gouging)

That everyone was in so quick a hurry to rip out their own eyes suggests that either liquids were effected or pressure was. Maybe both.

If it were just blood, we could probably cook up a complete transfusion. But everything wet? I think that's out of our capabilities. Scion is the one we need to know about. That's what's going to give this one the longevity it has. Somewhere down there, we'll find an antidote for the Nurgle plague, though probably only a dose or two. We're going to have to be extra fucking picky about who we use it on in that event. Preferably someone who can make more.

This also means rooting around in the labs, which sounds fucking dangerous as hell.

>>15917785

yeah, I'd hit post right after ved, apparently.

what scares me is that, since it's a microbial horror, we don't have many tools against it. the people in those pods are, in a word, fucked, but they're also probably our best shot at understanding and being able to deal with these two viral nasties.

I'm going to assume, here, that there's nothing in our medical facilities that'd be able to handle a weaponised bio-agent, or a runaway 'anti-aging' one.

what was the last login date from the consoles?

>>15917816
Why?

>>15917797

That makes a lot of sense, actually.

Still doesn't explain why liquids were still liquid, though. something about that detail is bothering me.

>It looks like research into improving existing anti-aging gene-mod technology with some additional benefits added on
>anti-aging gene-mod technology

I KNEW IT!

>>15917833
Biological lifeforms running out of liquids is bad for their health, scion acted to prevent that. stew btw is biological in nature.

>>15917831
Not the one who asked, but it'd be interesting to know, as it could've 50 years ago.

>>15917831

A rough date for "shit falls apart"?

Incidentally, I'm all for having never bothered this abomination in the first place, getting food stocks from the agri world and GTFO.

This place needed some of those multi-eon "this place has nothing good; sickness lives here" placards.

>>15917847

Point.

that's narrow down what kind of virus the other one was, wouldn't it? I mean, Seems to me alot of the more deadly ones work either by putting liquid where it shouldn't be (IE, Pneumonia, flu, ecetra) or removing copious amounts of it (Ebola, Cholera)

>>15917831
Because you've confused us thoroughly and we're trying to figure out what the hell is going on? We need to be able to look at various facts for that, and the date of the last log in is one of them.

Knowing that I'm going to be shouted down by whiteknights anyway, if we manage to really get a grip on this one. I mean REALLY understand it, and come up with a cure, this would be a very potent addition to our arsenal. And the anti aging thing would go a HUGE FUCKING way to extending our crew and therefor their capabilities.

OY-19402 is the last entry.

>>15917861
Too much speculation to reach that conclusion, for one it assumes that scion does exactly what I described, which is both somewhat logical and completely speculative in and of itself.

Speculation beyond that is as contra-indicated as living in a house of cards in a hurricane zone.

>>15917831
my idea was first: human remnant that survived (that was blown out of the water quickly). but more realistically it might corespond with the fall of the empire, perhaps even causing the death of humanity.

>>15917873
Shit, I don't know where to look in the archives for our calendar.
What year is it now, Vedibere?

And suddenly the date this happened on seems really important.

>>15917882
I really doubt it ever got off planet.

>>15917883
Nah, that date is like 65000 years ago IIRC.

>>15917804
>That everyone was in so quick a hurry to rip out their own eyes suggests that either liquids were effected or pressure was. Maybe both.


More likely is that the weaponized virus would painfully kill them while the anti-aging gene-mod would restore them, leaving them in perpetual agony and death.
This would unsurprisingly lead to madness and people would try to end themselves.

>>15917736

>“Sir, I doubt we’ll be able to hack more than one terminal at a time. Facilities like this have extremely restrictive measures in place on access.” Ivanova observes

>She remains silent for a moment before nodding, “Yes, I think so with time. Perhaps a week?”

It is not like we have anything better to do.
How about we send more people and try to uncover the secrets of this place in the span of the month?

>>15917869
Rather than a white knight (I don't really give a fuck either way for the xenos, if they talk, we'll talk, if they fight, burn them.) I'm going to have to say no for other reasons.

Biological weapons are the least precises weapons ever, I'd rather use nuclear hand grenades in a gun fight because at least they'd hit the one area and stop. Biologicals spread far too easily meaning they'll have far too much of a chance of infecting crew.

>>15917900
>It is not like we have anything better to do.

I can think of 1,000. "Getting the fuck out of this horrorshow, and possibly obliterating the whole joint from orbit" heads the list. If there are more than the handful of humans entrusted to our care, we MIGHT come back. MAYBE. But we're not only sticking our dick in a food processor, we're a hemophiliac.

Twenty years older than our map.

So, I guess they weren't around all that long after us.

>>15917935
Interesting, this happened about thirty years before the first base we found was abandoned.

Strange that even Intel couldn't muster any firepower to deal with things. Maybe foul play?

>>15917957
But 75 years before Ketro and his team were put on ice.

So what exactly are you DOING now? Lots of discussion, that's great. But no actions to do.

>>15917957
It was just quarantined and left alone it seems.

>>15917957
I'm guessing that this was a secret program, probably controversial, maybe even illegal. I kinda doubt that they would have been willing to attempt to salvage this situation. It would draw too much attention and would probably cost a hell of a lot more than just starting up a new base somewhere else.

Vedi said the findings progressed quickly. If I were an investor, I'd probably assume that a new team of scientists would have similar progress.

>>15917987
We are still investigating the vaults and computer systems and such, are we not? With the two priorities of figuring out what has happened here and finding the actual cryo pods that are supposed to be somewhere below us.

If we were to bring in heavy equipment to punch through the vaults, could we power them off of the singularity reactor directly?

>>15918007
....yeah sure, why not?

Let our people come back and get some rest. They're tired. Getting too tired to do their jobs.

>>15917997
So you just want to go back and browse reports and such for hours more? If so, cool, but say to do than then.

>>15918010
Lets do that then. Seems like we can't really find much else without doing so.

I think we should recall the guys, and bring down some of the heavy equipment to cut through the vaults.

If it is vaguely secure enough gran a couple samples to analyze the fuck out of while we rest, and regroup. We should talk with Dai and his people about loot, and the civvies any other people we should send down and insight they gather if any from research.

Time away should be pretty quick so we can just auto come back after the update and start drilling.

>>15918022
Yes I want to do so. I also call for the heavy drilling equipment to be brought in. Might as well do both at the same time.

If the crew with us is fatigued or something, make a rotation of them or something. The XO is probably still doing perfectly fine.

>>15918022

I'm down on that.

>>15918007
I thought we can't open these vaults without destroying their contents.

>>15918055
If we were to use a blast, yes. Actual drilling equipment should be safe.

If you want to look through the reports say what you want to know. And "What happened here" doesn't really qualify. You've gotten the general report from the general information around here. Now if you look you're going to be looking for a list of specifics.

>>15918022
Browse the reports, see if there was any kind of pressure on these projects to produce results, such as more and better equipped alien or human rebellions against the Empire.

Have our team pull out and get some rest.
Send down heavy drilling equipment that Ivanova said would be required to open up the vaults.

>>15918069

Can we see who the head researcher and/or administrator of the facility was?

>>15918070
>Have our team pull out and get some rest.

If we could discover what these projects actually are (microbes, or whatever) so we can see if our equipment is contaminated, I'd second that immediately.

>>15918069
Try to find out by what specific mechanism the disaster happened, or any hint. *microbes* really isn't good enough for opening cryo pods to be safe.

Also, get the drilling equipment down here pronto.

Search for the real cryo pods themselves when we open up the vaults and/or paths deeper into the base with our drilling equipment.

Ophedian kit seems pretty good.
Those researches were all but naked, and I doubt it would take long for those radiation vending machines to "warm up". Since he had time to make a brief video and die (this area either had not been seen by us, or simply wasn't noted) I'd guess the radiation that could melt unisteel wasn't on yet.

So, when it'd turn on? Who turned it on? Records for that would be lovely.

What were the specialities of the leading scientists, other than microbiology? That could give us a few good hints I think.

>Secret medicine with the ability to heal on a cellular level faster than the super plague could kill you.

>keeps blood moist 64K years

>despite this amazing regeneration eyes and skin are easily tore through, even though the bodies seem to be able to whether insane levels of radiation without burning up.

lol wut?

>>15918141
Oh shit.

Why didn't the bodies heal anyway? I mean whatever's rejuvenating them seems to still be actively doing so, why didn't the wounds heal too?

>>15918141

Radiation-hardened, Immortalized cells =/= healing factor

>>15918069
look for information on cures for the biologicals in case of accidental contamination.

attempt to match faces from the cryo-pods to names in the database, try to figure out which of them would know most about what went on.

determine best ways to sterilize against the particular biological contaminants in the facility so our people can safely exit their power armor/contamination suits

>>15918147
That's what's been stopping me from putting anything together, yes... or maybe I'm just a bit stupid.

>>15918147
Who said it's rejuvenating them? If anything it's just keeping them in stasis, like some jacked up embalming fluid.

>>15918168
Nothing wet is evaporating, and they aren't burning.

Either they've been waxed over or something is handling the damage as it comes.

>>15918156
And when I say exit their power armor/contamination suits i meant when they're back on the ship.

They may be protected from their environment now, but their suit is in contact with it, and they'll end up coming in contact with the exterior of their suit when they start to remove them.

Wonder what would happen if we uncorked some gaseous thing in there.

Even a spray bottle, would the spot we wet just continue to be damp, forever?

>>15918191
Well, that depends. Ony the things which were wet 60000 years ago are wet now. Who says anything that happens today would be put into stasis?

Er Vedibere... Have us spill something and check for evaporation as an experiment. THat should be great.

>>15918199
Eh, I was implying we give it a go.

Take something that wasn't here, spill it, and see what happens.

Hm, shouldn't all the liquid have been disturbed when the atmosphere turned into a vacuum?

I seriously have no idea, but I'd imagine it'd make a little mess if things weren't secured. Though I do know they wouldn't just up and start floating.

>>15918222
Nah, there isn't any vacuum in the lower levels where we are.

>>15918074
Jaques Leroue

>So, when it'd [radiation] turn on?
Automatic containment procedure activated when a leak was detected. Blast doors sealed off the labs and the complex was procedurally flooded with radiation after a set amount of time.

>look for information on cures for the biologicals in case of accidental contamination.
No cure mentioned, there is a "decontaminant" mentioned for "post-deployment cleanup" but nothing other than that.

>What were the specialities of the leading scientists, other than microbiology?
Biologists, chemists, geneticists mostly.

>liquid stuff
You have Rinn eject some of his pure H2O reserve from the suit and it quickly vaporizes.

>fatigue
Erella is showing some signs. The Ensigns on guard duty seem to be yawning as well, though that might just be boredom. Ivanova says she's fine, though Rinn does admit that while he's fine it's been a fairly long shift.

pull everyone up, put them in quarentine and scrub the suits. after thurough decontamination break time. they deserved it.

also start cutting through the doors with drones. if they can do that.

>>15918267
Look up information on the decontaminant, location and such. or if it has a sell-by date, the chemical formula for production.

>>15918267
>You have Rinn eject some of his pure H2O reserve from the suit and it quickly vaporizes.

All right, now try to forcefully vaporize some of the liquid that's been around for milennia. With an enery weapon if there's nothing else available, but I'm sure there's something more appropriate?

>>15918267
Look for more information on the decontaminant and if there's either a store of the stuff, or if it can be replicated.
Our team down here can get some rest once we can properly decontaminate them

Gotta get this off my hearth, probably should put angryfag in my namefield:


YOU FUCKING FATGUYS!

Get over your anxiety, get over fears, DO SOMETHING, get the pods up, tale all precautions, unfreeze them


DURR DURR DEBATING ALL DAY


FYI: This is a cooperatively told STORY, it is not a STRATEGY GAME, there probably is no right or wrong, you encounter a problem, you solve it, you enjoy the writefaggotry. Things go good or bad or whatever, but if you linger for all eternity, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN


NO GROW SOME FUCKING BALLS, GET THE PODS UP, UNFREEZE THEM, MAKE PROGRESS
Man, no wonder neckbeards live in basements... Oo

It was stated that this quest will end, but we play it like we need to inch along over every little thing.

>>15918375
Addendum:

None of this is your fault, Ved, ou contraire, you're doing a magnificent job, and i congratulate you for putting up with this - I as a GMwould boot allthose neckbeards IRL.... oO

>>15918375
>>15918397
>>15918390

So much this, just move it along.

I say we take all precautions, get the pods up, unfreeze one guy for questioning.

Preferreablyunfreeze one of those who seem in moderately good condition

>>15918375
you sir are an idiot.

a physical enemy is something easily faced, tactics and weponry bravery and discipline

chemical and radioactive weaponry? avoid the area.

but biologicals are different, depending on the type they can survive millenia in vacuum, deep freeze, survive radioactive or chemical contamination and still be viable just waiting for something new to infect so it can spread.

the one thing you never ever take risks or mess around with is proven deadly biologicals.

>>15918421
also, not meaning to be too harsh there, we do need to get moving. but we need decontamination protocols for the species in question first otherwise our ground team is pretty much dead and we have no chance of recovering anybody.

>>15918421
We have appropriate decon @ quarantine areas aboard the harbinger.

The harbinger is a STATE OF THE ART SHIP,

We take every precaution necessary, we have specialists aboard who have been trained to deal with things like this.


Worst comes to worst: We seal off certain Areas of the ship, problem solved.

I can understand the smileyguy....

>>15918267

Then what we're looking at is some sort of polymer that's managed to bind to or completely replace the water in the blood and other fluids.

There's not much that can behave like water and still let the body work right, so it's probably something new and weird. It might be something that is inhospitable to microbes and viruses, thus preventing them from even getting a chance to do damage to the body in the first place, but for that to work the human cells would need to be changed so that they could use the weird polymer instead of water as the working solvent.

>>15918292
>>15918340
>No cure mentioned, there is a "decontaminant" mentioned for "post-deployment cleanup" but nothing other than that.
>but nothing other than that

Erella thinks it would have probably been in the lab for proper co-development.

hey guys we have a chemist guy on board, let's bring up some samples for him to look at

>>15918451
quarantine facilities yes, decontamination we've been told nothing about.

and it's a biological "weapon" that means that it's not gonna be something like the flu where you bleach the armor and it's done, or at least that's potentially not the case. which is why you need to figure out what decontamination protocols are needed, if we have the required supplies on board the ship? that's fine, if not well suddenly we need to get them.

biological weapons are literally the absolute worst thing you'd ever need to deal with, we're talking several nightmares worth of safety issues.

>>15918479
To the lab, pick up decontaminant, gather cryopods, hook them up to a drone for power. place them on a shuttle decontaminate all surfaces.

Still should have the corridors they need to pass through purged to vacuum, and irradiated after they pass then decontaminated.

Separate quarantine for the crew members and their equipment, decontaminate their suits before removal.decontaminate drones, and hell do the shuttles over again after everyone is out. there's no such thing as overkill when dealing with biological weapons.

>>15918498

Look here:
>>15916916

None of you care for what happens. Look at smileyguy & me, we're here for every quest, but most of the time we lurk.

We don't dabble in idiotic bullshit discussions.
The harbinger is astateof the art ship, we have decon in shuttlebays, we have quarantine in medbay & brig

Where the fuck is your problem with using those facilities? Why do you feel the need to figure out every small detail? The harbinger and it's expertly trained personell will handle it with all the necessary care!

>>15918549
oh yeah, decontaminate both layers as the outer one comes off take care of the inner on as well, Erella did expose her inner suit after all.

>>15918564
because those facilities are not necessarily up to handling whatever was being produced in that lab.

Hospitals use bleach for decontamination, in many sci-fi stories on the other hand you see them using nukes in case of containment failure. and I don't know how much of that kind of stuff Ved reads.

>>15918564
Danger, danger. You seem to be afflicted with unwarrented namefag importance.

>>15918390
>>15918418
>>15918451
>>15918564
>>15918549


Hey, i got food :)

Guess what? What we just agreed on is what i had proposed 10min after the thread startet :D
In the very first response, nonetheless.

All the guys in this thread spent 5hrs discussing, only to come there :D :D


Please please /tg/, growsome balls, get this questmoving, I wanna have Vedis awesome writefaggotry! :)

>>15918621
All I wanted was the proper decontamination procedures followed for the situation, and not assuming that the harbinger "just happened to have" exactly what was needed.

That and information on who we should revive from the cryopods first, but that wasn't really necessary information just something that'd be nice to have.

I'm really wondering how you guys propose to "gather the cryopods" with no drone assistance and three people... then move them, powered, up three multi-kilometer elevators before strapping them to hovertanks and riding 5+ hours across a moon before loading them onto a shuttle for a quick jaunt up.

Maybe you should work that part out.

>>15918652
When we emptied the storage of the abandoned first base, Ivanova and her assistance assumed control over drones via some control-mumbo-jumbo.

Can they not operate the drones in our stead while down there?
Can the drones not carry the pods?

>>15918652
who said anything about no drone support? they can control the drones themselves, right? just let them take control of a few and have the cryo-pods hooked up to the drones batteries like before, then have the drones carry them. It worked on the Asura after all.

Not like riding elevators consumes much in the way of power.

Should probably have the drones charge at the reactor first to top them off for the ride out.

They've got access to the reactor, right? See if they can shut down the antiship batteries.

>>15918652
It's pretty simple. Nobody ever said we'd be moving them right away. We can call in drones and people.

>>15918677
>>15918671
Alright. Is this the action?

Are you bringing the pods back now?

We don't need to do it immediately. Let's recall the guys down in the installation, and extract the cryopods as we drop off the drilling equipment.

>>15918688
>>15918671
>>15918677
This, this, this plus Me

4 infavour of that courseof action, let's do it!

>>15918686
hell, just use the hovertanks to destroy the ones in the area if needed, i don't remember the exact number of them, but it wasn't a huge amount.

>>15918692
4 in favour, one guy half (the drilling equip guy)

Lets go!

>>15918692
provided we gather the required decontamination materials from the lab area as well first.

>>15918692
I'm still voting no to bringing the pods up.
Even if the Harbinger was state of the art at the time, this was a research facility specifically designed to handle these kinds of problems, and they still suffered catastrophic containment failure.
I don't think it's worth the risk to bring the pods back up yet.

Take the pods out if you want.
Search the labs if you want.
None of that shit goes on our ship, especially the way that stuff propogated. There's a chance that *some* of the people put into stasis are not infected. We'll need to test that somewhere and see if the stuff starts to go to work once it's removed from the radiation zone.

>Erella
>“It’s liquid. Liquid blood. It hasn’t congealed or lost oxygenation. The cells aren’t dead.” she bends over, wiping her hand on the corpse’s clothes before slipping on her armored gauntlet and pointing out the streaks down its ears and the small pool beneath it.
>wiping her hand on the corpse’s clothes before slipping on her armored gauntlet
If any of that stuff, even trace amounts, are still on that glove it's being protected from the radiation by her armored gauntlet. Tell her to check that glove at regular intervals to see if there's any sign or it degrading.

>>15918779
>>15918743
Fuck you guys, going right back to determining everyminor details and doing NOTHING

>>15918722
Can we make an attempt to find the decontamination procedure first?

>>15918802
You're welcome to suggest and get others to go along with stupid and dangerous courses of action. Just take responsibility when it blows up in our faces.

>>15918839
I will...

You give your orders and the two Lieutenant nod, but you get a chime from within the system. You look over and find Dr. Burr viewing the events through a monitor as you instructed him, the source of the transmission

“Is there something you need, doctor?”

“Well...” he scratches his bearded face with one finger, “I’m just not sure it’s such a good idea to bring those on board the ship. They might be contaminated. We have facilities for dealing NBC action and decontamination for normal treks up and down from planets, but this looks pretty dangerous.”

“Do you think there’s a risk involved? Those are people, maybe some of the last in the universe. Leaving them there would be as good as leaving them to die, plus they might be able to tell us what went wrong.”

He shrugs, “There’s always risk involved. I just don’t know this time. They thought they had it contained too... though I guess we can’t know what kind of precautions they took and they were actively experimenting on it, apparently.”

“Noted, thank you for your opinion, Doctor.”

################

In short order Ivanova and Rinn have disconnected the pods, returning to the upper level to give you a status update.

“Eight of ‘em look normal, sir. Five with the eyes ripped up and then those two lovebirds frozen in time. Rest were either dead in the pods or the pods were dead on them.” Rinn reports.

Ivanova clips the datapad she was taping on back to her belt and looks up, “They are hooked to the drones and ready to be brought up at your word, sir. I checked the reactor like you asked and found several power draws. I could clip the ones that look most like the batteries if you wish.”

also Voting no on bringing the pods up for two reasons,

firstly, it isn't practical in the first place. we don't have any real way of bringing them up at the moment.

second, we may be a state of the art warship, but that doesn't mean we are a state of the art Hospital too.

>>15918870
Is this the
> wat do

Already? Leave it be, we have the time, we bring them uo the same way they got down, endangering the reactor would probably be too much.

>>15918899
Yeah.

Are we still bringing drilling equipment down as well? There's gotta be some interesting stuff in there...

>>15918870
Is there any reason to clip the batteries?

>>15918870
gather decontamination material
????
profit

We could unthaw them in one of the upper areas of the base? The radiation isnt as heavy up above, we'd just need to seal it against vacuum and find what's emitting radiation up there.

>>15918870
I don't think we should disconnect the power draws yet; she might clip the radiation generators by accident, and we don't know how the microbes will react once the radiation goes down.

As for the decontamination materials, have Erella check to see if they're in the lab sections that aren't under the extreme high (melt unisteel) radiation levels. If they're behind the sealed blast doors, I don't think we're going to get them until we turn off the radiation generators and stand down the facility, and they're likely denatured anyway by the high radiation.

>Project Namtar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namtar Namtar was one bad mothertrucker, according to the Nepalese. Messenger of Nergal.
>Project Scion
Scion = Descendant; progeny
>Project Helios
Greek Sungod
>Project Midnight
????

Just an FYI for you folks.

>Project Namtar
Voting to crack the pods dirtside. Unless Cap'n Harbringer fancies chasing cauldron-born zombies around the airducts for a few months.

>>15918973

nepalese? 'scuse me, guys thats ASSYRIANS. I'm shopping for kukris while reading /tg/.

>>15918973
>unless Cap'n Harbringer fancies chasing cauldron-born zombies around the airducts for a few months.

It would probably be one hell of a bonding experience with Ivanova.

>>15918947
The radiation is almost instantly lethal to unprotected humans in even the least irradiated areas.

The very topmost level might have them last five minutes. At best.

We don't need to bring the pods aboard the ship, do we?

Could we open them on the top levels of the facility, someplace where radiation is low?

>>15918980
Incidentally, I'm getting all trapped up for a night of hardcore masturbation, because my EMS package arrived today.

Because we're sharing...

>>15918995
Are the hovertanks sealed against vacuum? if so unthaw one in a hovertank.

We can always ditch it if we feel the need. it's not like we don't have more, and it's not like we can't find/go back to get more.

All right, let's try opening one pod, maybe the one with the healthiest looking person in it, and do it on a shuttle for quarantine purposes. Put the doctor in there with a hazmat suit.

>>15918995
How long would it take for the radiation level to drop if we cut power to the emitters in that level?

>>15919014
I doubt very much there's enough room in there. It's a cockpit, a hovertank doesn't have a storage room.

>>15919028
Way too long, I'd say. Just do it on the shuttle.

>>15919036
Point, tanks aren't really big on the whole extra space thing, not really sure what i was thinking there.

So, current consensus is "Open healthiest pod anywhere but aboard ship."?

I vote for this, wherever the update decides is best.

>plan to do something
>someone on your crew voices an entirely reasonable opinion
>suddenly change completely

Well, whatever guys. Did you really think your doctor would just say "lol sure" when you told him you were bringing a possible bioweapon onboard?

>>15919059
Considering our past record?
Did you really expect more of us?

>>15919059
Oh, and that comment might appear to be advocating bringing it on board. Or not. Whatever.

I am not actually saying either is better than the other, it's all your call. I was just pointing out something that I found humorous.

>>15919059
I just want to gather the decontamination materials the lab designed specifically for those biologicals.

After that I'd feel fine following my plan here >>15918549
>>15918568

Possibly keep the area outside the quarantines vacuum sealed and irradiated for the duration.

More than that becomes rather silly even with what I've been saying about there being no such thing as overkill when dealing with biological weapons.

Though that all /still/ requires that we go get the decontamination materials from the lab area.

>>15919098
I still don't see why nobody likes the idea of doing it on the shuttle. Best of both worlds.

>>15919059
I don't know what the yahoos who wanted to bring the pods up were thinking, since the opinions expressed by Burr are the same ones that us naysayers were espousing.
Do they still want to bring the pods up to the Harbinger?

Anyway, now that they've been disconnected from the reactor and are now up on the surface, could they be strapped to the hovertanks to take them to the shuttles? Opening up one of them on a shuttle sounds like a reasonable way to maintain quarantine, since we can just crew it with drones and we have other shuttles that our crew can take.

gaiz

The infected don't seen bothered by the radiation.
what's the harm in thawing them inside?

>>15919112
Do this.

>>15919123
They're probably shielded by the actual stasis field or something like that. Turn it off and they'll die, I'd say.

>>15918870
>“Eight of ‘em look normal, sir. Five with the eyes ripped up and then those two lovebirds frozen in time.

Well, what about the eighth one?

>>15919112
If they can't be strapped to the tanks for transport, then we may have to have Ivanova disable the planetary defense batteries via cutting the power feeds. Then have the shuttles land near the facility so that the healthiest looking researcher can be thawed.
Not something I like doing, but it beats constantly switching drones to act as batteries for the cryopods.

Either way, Erella should be looking for those decontamination materials.

Hold the fucking phone

This station houses 3-400 people, they are all in cryo somewhere.
One of them maybe able to help us save these ones.

>>15919098
>>15919059

The irony here is, of all the times we couldnt stop dickering around with our subordinates on completely benign matters, the one time something crops up that obviously screams out CONSULT AN EXPERT we almost uniformly try to make a decision uneducated.

Voting to open a pod in a manner that suits proper procedures when handling unknown NBC agents. The doctor's concerns are valid, and I cannot find a counter-argument that satisfies his warnings.

>>15919171
Well yeah, that's what I've been saying but bringing down the drilling equipment seems to be the most unpopular course of action at the moment... So I don't know. Whatever.

>>15919171
Only 8 survived in cryo. Everyone else is dead.
No one else made it; either they didn't get in the tubes, they died in the tubes, or the tubes died on them and they died.

>>15919112
Also agreeing.

Btw, we should test our weapons on one of the dead bodies to see how effective that method of decontamination would work.

>>15919194
Vedibere, confirm or deny this?

Opening the pod on a shuttle sounds like a good idea.

Have medical stuff on the shuttle, and a doctor willing to risk his life for the subject.

HERE IS A NEW SUGGESTION!

We've got an enormous space ship. We've got food. These guys are locked up pretty tight and don't seem like they'll lose power any time soon.

Why don't we just leave them here for now, and come back some time later if we ever want to? Because right now, the risk/reward ratio isn't falling to the side of pulling these guys out to our ship. They're likely infected with some sort of super microbial bio weapon that could very well still be alive in the very air of the station, not to mention in their cryo pods. And if they are, there's no way for us to cure them of it at the time being.

Now, if we bring these guys on board, we risk them, since if they're infected we can't save them, and more importantly, all of our crew, which would be devastating.

It's extremely, extremely, EXTREMELY unlikely that anyone else could get into this facility. They'd have to get past the defense batteries up top, survive through the airless, nuclear wastelands that are the levels of this facility, and come down to make any sense of this stuff. Which no one would be able to do, unless there were another ship like us out there. And if there is, and if they want to try for it, let them.

Now, they've got apparently stable power that should keep them frozen indefinitely. No risk in leaving them there.

And, what benefit would they bring us if everything worked out? We get a few more specialist scientists? Ones who barely survived horrific trauma? Who could be useless outside of bio weapons engineering or whatever else?

For now, I say we leave them, leave the facility, and move on. It's an interesting place to keep track of, but for now I don't think we want to try "rescuing" anyone.

>>15919194
Or you know, they were on the surface levels and were not though to have been in danger of being infected before evac.

Which would explain the lack of bodies on the top level.

>>15919059
Well, such is it.

I've been with you Ved, from the very beginning of every thread.

Did you notice?

Anyhow, I'll be reading the archives, those guys really stress me out.

6 hours, almost 7, and we have accomplished ZERO

:(

>>15919215
Genetic diversity for our eventual new human colony is a start.

>>15919231
There'll be other humans out there. Ones that aren't infected with super weapons.

>>15919225
Well I don't see YOU doing anything.

>>15919212
Deny. It's a reading comprehension fail. 8 people are normal. NORMAL. I personally don't think eyes ripped out is normal.

>Anyway, now that they've been disconnected from the reactor and are now up on the surface
They are just disconnected. They are still down there, not moved up yet. You could reconnect them if you wanted.

>>15919248
Fuck you to hell and back, look at the very start of this thread, look immediately before the last little writefaggotry. I don't bother as much, Bishop did, but I still DID something.

>>15919225
'Bye.

Also, Vedi, pick something and run with it. That smiley kid has one valid point; we're kinda drifting. Maybe you should impose a time limit for accepting responses? Whatever is hot at, say, 15 minutes carries the vote? I love your quest, but [i]jesus[/i]. Pic related. Time and biohazards.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

Okay, let's get a vote. Do you think we should try and defrost and rescue some people?

Or do you think we should delay that indefinitely, leaving open the possibility of doing it later, while leaving now?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>15919274
The only thing I see you doing up there is being just as cautious as the rest of the thread. So you might as well thank yourself for starting the trend.

>>15919286
Vote to leave.

It's too hot to try anything now. Too dangerous. Plug them back in and go.

>>15919277

fucking pic-destroying captcha.

>>15919286
+1 for Delay

>>15919286
Din't care what we do with them
But we shouldn't leave until we loot this place with drills.

>>15919286
I vote defrost, with precautions like doing it on a shuttle.

>>15919303
>>15919286
Leave the people for now. Drill into the vaults to see if there's anything of note in them. Then leave.

>>15919286

Let's move them but not open them up until after we've got a better idea of what they did to themselves.

>>15919327
If we go into one or two vaults and there's nothing special, I say we leave rather than spend additional weeks in an old dangerous zone trying to open the rest.

Leave, going down there was a bad idea in the fist place.

>>15919306
Actually, add the drilling bit to my vote here as well. Should check it out.

We have a listing of the timing of which the frozen people were frozen, find the earliest pod that has a normal occupant(s) and defreeze them when they're in a controlled environment on a shuttle outside of harbinger. it's more than likely they gtfo'd before they were exposed to the biowep and therefore could possibly tell us what the deal was. If they're infected it's a fairly good assumption so were the others. We minimize our danger and maximize our potential for figuring out what the hell happened.

Well right now the majority seems to be leaning towards leaving them down there for now and possibly cracking open a vault or two.

>>15919353
So let's do that.

>>15919353
Crack them all, hauling the drills will be a bitch,best to make a good go of it.

>>15919259
Keep them down here, reconnect them to the reactor if we have to. Only bring the normal ones up if Erella is able to locate any of the decontamination material on the lab level, and it's still viable.
Reconnect the pods to the reactor if power levels become an issue.

Have the drilling equipment brought down and have them begin drilling into the vaults when they arrive.

Until then, the others can rest in their suits; it won't be comfortable or very resting, but it's better than keeping them on alert or taking off their suits without an appropriate decontaminant.

>>15919353

Which is why I'm hoping he starts running these wat do? moments by a clock. He's writing right now, I'll wager. That means all of the last 10/20 minutes of discussion has been idle chatter, unfortunately. I just wanna get this show on the road, regardless of what the ultimate choice is. At least clawing our eyes out as we descend into a superspacevirus-caused delirium would be ACTION!

>>15919377
Gonna agree with this. Except they should go up to sleep on the top level, probably in the tanks at least.

>>15919388
Nah, Vedibere usually checks new posts before he updates. He's changed things a few times after starting to write up one thing before we changed our minds on him.

take the normal people, put them in quarentine on the surface. preferably away from our people.

in the mean time, start accessing those hydroponics. they might be able to grow new, not bean paste shit.

>>15919405

Yet another strong argument for a timed window of response.

Especially with scenes as grisly and /x/-type creepy like the lab here. If we're given too long to argue and the pace falls off, the scene loses it's visceral effectiveness.

Just putting this out their but would this bioweapon really have that much affect on people as extremely filled with computer bits and pieces like us, cause if im reading it right its seems like it makes the people go crazy but how does a cell make a computer go crazy

>>15919456
We're not robots. The majority of our crew is pure human. And the ones that do have bionics still have some flesh and human organs.

Question: You have Erella search the lab, right? How far in does she go? Into the blast-sealed areas? How long does she search for?

I think I mentioned the place is huge.

>>15919511

No, none of the blast sealed areas should be opened and due to fatigue it should only be a rudimentary search. If decontaminants aren't clearly labelled in a lab that specialises in bioweapons then that is a bad lab. We should consider the mental state of the crew- this can't be good for them and they're tired. Learn as much as we can in a small amount of time. We can always go back.

>>15919511
Not too deep or too far or by herself. Rinn goes with her. Checking out the areas directly close to us, and out to like, 100 feet in radius.

>>15919511
Well, did any of the reports say approximately in what section the decontaminants were either being worked on, produced, or stored?

If not, search in the non-blast-sealed areas, with 1 ensign and 2 drones as escort. Have her search for 3 more hours, then rest for 6 hours, then begin search again.

>>15919557
this seems reasonable

While I love Void Quest a great deal and have become slightly frustrated at the usual arguments that exist in these threads I have to say, I enjoy the fact that you all are being cautious as fuck, and I understand why, its because Vedi is the type of QM who -will- kill us if we fuck up, if we make a colossal mistake like say...ramming a floating husk of a starship right next to a sun...we -would- die. But still, I hope that at least some of you can understand why I get a tad bit frustrated at the lack of progression in these threads, but unlike smileyfag up there I don't support sticking our dick out in the radiation-scorched wind and hoping for the best.

Polite sage for not contributing.

>>15919745
I agree with you. It gives us a lot of time to "discuss" things, but it doesn't lend itself well for actually getting much done.

Question: do we have equipment on board to create a clean/decontamination area on the moon where we could defrost a cryopod in relative safety and comfort without putting our ship at risk?

Why is Erella even down there, fuck. She's been on shift for like six hours and she's not military. Didn't we decide nobody was going down the first elevator to the HIGHLY IRRADIATED HELLHOLE?

Get all our dudes back up, reconnect the pods to the singularity in the bottom of the base, leave them there, set up a biohazard quarantine ON THE PLANET, come back later to pick up the pods, and open them ON THE PLANET in the BIOHAZARD QUARANTINE that is not on our ship. Erella gets a nice time off.

>Atmosphere:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFVufWdP4YI

“Change of plans,” you announce, “I’ve spoken with doctor Burr on the matter and he’s convinced me to at least wait. Ivanova, I’d like you to go reconnect the pods to the reactor and bring up the drones. Rinn, Erella; I’d like you to search the lab level for the decontaminants. Don’t spend too long, and restrict yourselves to the areas not covered by the blast doors.”

The three acknowledge and head off to carry out your orders, Ivanova downward and the other two upward. You gather drones to accompany them in their search and soon are scouring the lab levels through a haze of static and radiation. What you find is a scene frozen in horrific time. Corpses collapsed, obviously running for the exits. One crushed under a blast door. Microscopes and examining tools still on, chalkboards filled with complex equations and chemical formulas.

Reports detailing trials too, including one that Erella brings to your attention specifically. An annotated progression of subject survival periods. Periods of six days to three days fill the first five pages, gradually decreasing until hitting a wall... or rather, a cliff. The times suddenly fall to hours, a red ink arrow with a note to the side saying “P1 Onset”. The numbers continue to decrease, though. The final entry shows a fatality period of a mere 67 minutes and 12 seconds from exposure, and a note at the bottom reads: “P1 lethality inc unabated. P2 likely imminent, extrap cont exponential rate increase eg.P0-P1 transition. Slowing unsuccessful to date- prolif vectors compromised, 33 second max viability post termination of host.”

Still, that’s the extent of what you find in the labs over the course of three hours... before noticing fatigue obviously beginning to wear on both of them, Erella stumbling slightly as she walks and Rinn unable to stifle his yawns. Well, they have been on duty and under high stress for nearly twenty hours now. You order all of them -- including the Ensigns -- up and after checking both their armor’s outer and inner NBC seals (all normal) have them retire to the hovertanks for rest.

Switching back to the office level, you find Ivanova conducting a search through the area designated for the scientist’s offices. You relocate one of your drones and catch her looking down from the small second story corridor cross-over bridge where the level splits into two floors.

“Find anything Kateryna?”

Your XO looks over at the drone approaching her, nodding, “Some. Most is technical, not my area and will need to have the others examine it. But I did find something strange. Here.”

You begin to ask what ‘here’ she means when you see several schematics unexpectedly pop up in the feed. Incomplete, but extremely detailed and covering all the areas you have had her moving through. On a whim you overlay it with the one you were creating with drone optics and LADAR scans, finding they match exactly. “What’s this?”

“It is... something I am able to do. Can not keep from doing. It does not matter.” She waves off the question, “This is what I was referring to.” A small section, a lone office lights up on the display. “This office door was open.”

“Well, yes, a lot of them are. The occupants left in a hurry.”

She shakes her head, “There was a body inside. None of the others had such. And the access card was still in the door... on the outside.”

“That’s strange. Who was he? And whose office?”

She crosses her arms, turning and leaning back on the bridge’s railing, “Param Nail. Geneticist. Reports in the office showed it was his and he led ‘Scion.’”

You think for a second before speaking, “Good job. Any idea what he was doing in there?”

“Not really. Collapsed behind the desk clawing his eyes out like the others. Maybe he thought he would be safe away from the others if he wasn’t infected?” she suggests.

“I don’t know. Regardless, I’ve sent the others to sleep in the hovertanks. You should get some shut-eye too.”

She gives a short chuckle, “I don’t really need it, Ged. I’ll need a few hours later but... my requirements tend to be lower when on mission.”

“How low, exactly?”

“I’m afraid I can’t say.” she says, slowly shaking her head. “Do I have permission to stay and search?”

>Note, this is just a minor Wat Do to keep things going and have you decide what to do when they wake up.

Go down to the reactor and deactivate the antiship batteries so we can take off and land dierctly at the site. that'll make things faster than having to drive out of their range.

>>15920165
>land dierctly at the site
I hope you mean "land shuttles at the site"

>Slowing unsuccessful to date- proliferation vectors compromised, 33 second max viability post termination of host

Sounds like the virus is almost certainly gone after 64k years if it goes away in under a minute after the host has died.

However, opening any cryopods will likely continue the infection, as all the individuals are likely infected.

Ivanova has permission to continue searching.

What is the feasibility of constructing a quarantine on the planet (or the moon)?

Let Ivanova do what she needs, she knows better than we do on missions requiring subtleness.

Just tell her to avoid any chance of infection. We do not want to lose our favorite officer.

Why don't we send more people down there?

>>15920102
What about this: can we attempt to bring back one of the "dead" bodies?

Specifically, Param Nail. And, more specifically, "bring back" into an area of lower radiation. He hid himself in his office, leaving his access card on the outside. He wanted to be alone, but easily found later on.

I tentatively believe that the radiation inhibits Scion...but not enough to make it lose its ability to keep liquids liquid over millenia. Bringing 'bodies' out of radiation, might make them come alive again.

Can we consult with our chemistry expert about this situation?

>>15920258

seconding

>>15920319
For all we know that guy sabotaged the project because, face it, the shit is EVIL like nobody's business.

That could be the reason why he didn't bother to run away

>>15920350
I want to bring a sample of liquid into a non-irradiated area.

additionally, if possible, bring a sample of living tissue to a non-irradiated area and see if it does anything.

This can be as simple as getting a drone to carry a sealed thing of stew far enough away from the base and seeing if it changes at all. It's a trivial action at this point, and if nothing comes from it, then that's fine.

I guess I'm having a hard time deciding wat do.

I don't see why we have to go to all the trouble of investigating this base further. Our original goal was to recover humans. This means setting up a place where we can thaw them out that is not on our ship.

>>15920416
>sample of living tissue
i meant sample of dead tissue.

>>15920419
Have Erella look at it, if she doesn't have the right tools, bring her down a microscope or something.

aaaaand... everyone is sleeping.

>>15920549
>was going to start own quest tonight
>4 others are already going
fuck

Yeah, have Erella look at the liquids and she if she can figure out WTF is going on there. Have her consult with the chemist (who stays on the ship).

“Go ahead, let me know if you find anything else.”

Ivanova nods, reaching her arms back and stretching them over her head, “Ahhh. If you need me and can’t find me I will likely be on the bottom level investigating, but for the time being I will be searching this wing.”

You bob the drone in affirmation, “Don’t do anything dangerous.”

“You mean things like poking around a secret, sealed, irradiated, and biohazardous base?” she replies before picking up her weapon and quickly wandering off..

Smart ass.

############

You turn your own attention to the labs, cracking open any non-secure terminals and completing a floorplan with your drones. You are interrupted, however, by Erella messaging you.

“Yes?” you reply, tapping into her suit speakers and looking through the sensors of the tanks scattered around the complex courtyard. Nothing stirring, good.

“Could you turn off the suit display? I can’t sleep unless it’s dark and the thing won’t turn off for me. I guess I gave the wrong command.” she replies. Oh.

“Of course, hold on a moment.” you reply, accessing her suit’s functions directly and... huh.

“I’m showing it as off.” you respond, “Are you sure it’s not something else?”

“No,” she replies, sounding aggravated, “It came on a minute ago and woke me up, now it won’t turn off.”

You heave an internal sigh. “Okay, step out of the hovertank and I’ll have a drone run a diagnostic.”

“I /would/ but I can’t see! The whole thing is white. Hurry up and turn it off, it’s getting kind of bright.”

“Easy, there. Okay, I’m sending a drone up now. It will be a couple minutes.”

“I... I really can’t wait a couple minutes, it keeps getting brighter. It’s starting to hurt. Please, just turn it off!” She’s beginning to sound a bit frantic now and you speak soothingly.

“I can’t do anything from here, just hold on. It will be up soon, don’t worry the suit’s screen can’t output enough light to actually harm yo--”

“Please, it’s really starting to hurt! Even with my eyes closed, it’s too bright!” You see movement and switch to the internal cameras. Oh no, she’s reaching up to pull at the helmet.

“Erella! Stop! Your suit is at the least contaminated with radioactive particles, maybe the virus too. Just stop right there. I’ll get Rinn.”

“No! I... I have to get this thing off, it hurts so bad! Tell me how to take it off!” she yells back, frantically beginning to search for the suit’s latch. Rinn helped her into it before, but it’s only a matter of time.

You flick into Rinn’s suit, activating the speakers and vid system, “Lieutenant! Wake up!”

The man bolts upright, at least as much as he can with the depowered armor dragging him down. “Fucking serpents! W-what the hell?!”

“Lieutenant, emergency. No questions, get over to Erella’s tank double time. Go!” you command.

“YES SIR!” the man booms, immediately flicking his suit on and grabbing his gun. Popping the hatch he leaps free, landing on the surface and rolling. He comes up in a sprint, his assault rifle held across his chest and charging toward Erella’s hovertank.

Meanwhile Erella’s pleading has transformed into shrieks, “PLEEEEEEASE, OH PLEASE OH SUNS IT HURTS! IT HUUURTS!! PLEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!” You try to talk to her but it’s of no use, drowned out or unlistening. Instead you switch to her vitals. They’re going haywire, heart rate shooting to over two hundred and the other signs matching pace You watch helplessly as she thrashes about in the cockpit, armored servos clearly amplifying her movements, smashing controls and denting the interior of the vehicle.

“Hurry Lieutenant, inside!” you order and he nods, springing up to the entrance portal and yanking it open before diving in and grabbing Erella. She struggles, shrieking and frantically clawing at the faceplate of her armor.

Rinn fights back as gently as he can, grunting with effort as he catches her flailing arms and maneuvers them into a submission hold. Slowly her movements wind down and cries trail off, ebbing even as her vitals do.

“Her helmet!” you order, “Get it off, now!”

Rinn doesn’t even hesitate, dropping her listless arms and reaching up to unlock the device. A few seconds, a swift pull, and it’s free.

Too late.

Erella’s head lolls listlessly, crimson tears of blood and vitreous fluid stream from her burst eyes, hollow sockets staring lifelessly up at Rinn. He turns her helmet up, the screen inside dark. Off, completely, the entire time. The same as the rest of her suit, confirmed by your logs.

>oh, and: Wat do.

>>15920796
Well. Fuck.

Oh god. It's eating through the suits. Everyone down there is fucked.

>>15920796
Damn it. We should have bothered with this fucking deathtrap. This entire base was a disaster.

>>15920837
> should
Meant shouldn't.

Well, that's a lot of valuable personal lost for absolutely fucking nothing. Great.

So. . . apologize to those down there and jump to the next planet?

>>15920796

Tell Rinn to drop that fucking corpse right now.

Everyone gets the fuck out of there right now.

All of their equipment gets scrapped

They get quarantined until we know FOR SURE that they are safe.

Once all of that is done we blast the facility from orbit.

God.

Fucking.

Damnit.

I hate to say it but.... would ketro be any help here?

>>15920871
Probably not. He wouldn't help us unless we let him kill Dai, and even then he's still not trustworthy.

Contact Ivanova.

Tell her to get the fuck out of that base NOW!

We absolutely cannot lose her under any circumstances. She's too valuable a resource!

I told you chuckleads that they shouldn't have gone down there but you didn't listen. If we evac them now, we might be able to save inn and Ivanova.

Order Rinn out of there on the double.

That fucking settles it, we're not bringing anyone frozen back up.

33 second max viability after termination of host, they said.
Improving existing anti-aging gene-mod technology, they said.

Looks like they got their bio-weapon, all right. And it's just kept living in that liquid.

Running immediately now and then nuking it from orbit won't save anyone. The opposite, really. Everything down there has been contaminated and it both eats through things and can survive radiation that puts a-bombs to shame. If we bring them back up everyone on board dies.

The only way we get them back is to find something in that base to decontaminate them or kill the virus/bacteria/whatever.

>>15920853
>>15920833

Erella was the only one to touch the blood. And she touched it with her weaker undersuit.

All of the others are presumably fine. The've all been down there the same amount of time, if they were all infected then they all would be screaming about the light in their eyes.

All, and I mean ALL of their equipment gets scrapped. This includes the hover-tanks. we will not forgo any precautions here.

Well she was the only one who took her outer suit off.

Hate to say it, but we have to leave her there. The tank too, probably.

Get Ivanova out of there. Her and Rinn return to the shuttles. Don't come back though. They need to wait there for a while to see if they feel any of the effects. Then we need to leave their out armor on the moon. They could easily be contaminated on the outer plating of the armor. So it seems prudent to just leave the suits there and have the two of them sit in the shuttle for a few hours as a quarantine before bringing them back.

Then we need to hit the site from orbit with a singularity missile.

So, how much damage would it take for us to hit that reactor near the bottom?

That'll clean up this place nicely.

>>15920904
>>15920904
>>15920904
>>15920904
>>15920904

THAT, you panicky twits!

Pull our personnel up, do what we need to to start monitoring their vitals real-time. Tell them to not touch anything wet on their way out.

>>15920904
IIRC, the undersuit is what seals the armour. The armour plates sit on top and presumably aren't hermetically sealed. Everyone is fucked.

You guys dun goofed. The writing was all over the wall. Immortality experiments + Bioweapon experiments + Lost Containment + EVERYONE DIED. And we still went poking around.

Only question I have now is if having Erella take off her glove was our idea or his.

>>15920796

QUICKLY, LOOK AT THE HAND THAT SHE TOUCHED THE BLOOD WITH.

If the undersuit is eaten through then.....fuck. We need to find out if it only spreads through contact with liquid or if it's airborne also. If it's airborne then fuck.

>>15920952
His.

Oh, I'm late.
Did we bump the disease facility gently yet?

Find ivanova, tell her Erella was infected and has expired.

>>15920870
Do this simultaneously.

In before Ivanova knows everyone is infected and freezes herself.

>>15920962
Did, for whatever stupid reason, turns out it eats through power armor and the ground team is totally fucked.

>>15920959
Before Rinn gets out, have him take a look at her hand.

>Vedi's face

Ok, so we lost Erella, a tank, and a shitload of drones.

We may have lost Rinn and Ivanova.

We're going to lose a shit load of missles vaporizing this place.

>>15920960
Dammit Verdibere. Possibly the best human expert left in the galaxy and she wasn't smart enough to use one of the drones as a waldo? Unbelievable. I call shenanigans.

This is herp on part with picking up a beaker of acid and trying to identify the chemical composition by drinking it.

Given what we know, everyone down there is fucked.
1. Virus, or whatever it is resides in liquid and prevents dessication.
2. Virus spreads through contact with infected liquid. This means that the virus is ALSO airborne if there is anything to spread it. Breathing/perspiration etc.
3. On contact, virus (or at least a certain amount of it) is capable of eating through containment materials.
4. Not inhibited by radiation.

We should have dropped the clustereater...

>>15921000
Much, much closer to this the entire time actually.

>>15921010
You have all four Ensigns down there too, remember? Two went down, two stayed in the tanks.

>>15921038

ASK THEM IF THEY TOUCHED ANY LIQUID WHATSOEVER.

IM PRAYING TO THE ANCESTORS THAT THEY HAVENT.

>>15921025
It's Vedibere. This is standard procedure for him, kill as many people as possible. If I recall correctly his reasoning is that if people don't specifically say "don't do X," then it's totally okay for him to make X happen and tons of people die because of it. If memory serves he killed off thousands of people in Omni Quest that way.

>>15921025
>Not inhibited by radiation.

Might not be true. Erella was out of the irradiated zone when she finally succumbed.

How long was it between her leaving the compound and her onset, by the way, Vedibere? Records show it takes about an hour for death to ocurr. Perhaps she did something in the SUPER MEGA DEATH floor that exposed her.

>>15921058
"Lets help out the paladin"

>kill everyone in the city

"that's not what we meant. We wanted to save the mage"

>Paladin knocked out while we're arguing. Spinal cord severed. Mage dies

. . . damnit.
If it wasn't for your detailed writting. . .

>>15921071
I was kind of hoping that he had changed, since this quest didn't seem to be exhibiting quite so much of that, at least for a little while. But now, I guess it was just him building up toward this.

Oh well, supposedly once summer is over DQ will pick up again, so I'll have something to replace this with.

>>15921025

wait, wait!

THERE ARE TWO VIRUSES!

The anti-aging one is keeping organic shit from decaying, while also providing the DEATH VIRUS a place to STAY ALIVE?

Also, the anti-aging one seems to prevent HUGE radiation from breaking down cell walls.

I do agree that a specialist sent into that place should have known better than to remove ANY level of their safety gear, though. Civies = babies quest?

oh, and FIRE TIME NAO?

Check for corrosion on her undersuit. That's probably what happened.

Next, take her helmet and rub it into some of the blood. See if it corrodes.

We'll cremate her remains down here, find the self-destruct button, and gtfo.

I hope Ivanova finds something worthwhile.

Lets bring them onboard! No safety precautions.

Then we'll have lots of raunchy sex with Ivanova!

>>15921127


And tell her to bring Erella's body!

We can use her blood as lube!

>>15921127
>>15921139
You do realize that stupid suggestions that result in more death are the ones that Vedibere is likely to pay attention to and use, right?

So shush.

“Rinn. Her right hand, take off the armored section.” you order.

The man silently obeys, quickly linking to the suit and having it disengage the locks. Exactly as you feared. In the suit below on the tips of her thumb and forefinger. Holes eaten through the suit. But that’s not all. You shift your vision, looking out through Rinn’s suit optics, and see a small area further up. Not a hole, but...

“Lieutenant, out of the tank, now.”

“Sir.” the man responds, quickly disembarking and jumping down to the unisteel courtyard.

“Now, remove your armor’s gauntlet.”

“Sir!? I’m not sure that is such a good idea... she just died, sir.” he replies, shifting and his voice a bit worried.

“I know, Lieutenant. But this is an order, you know I wouldn’t do this without cause. Just the outer armor, I need to check something.”

He hesitates a moment before responding, “Yes, sir.”

The locks on the armor disengage and the gauntlet slips free, revealing the form-fitting exosuit underneath used for interfacing, NBC, limited powering, comfort, soldier sustenance, and more. And in the same spot as on Erella’s suit you see it. Decay. The suit being slowly eaten away.

“What nowt, sir?” Rinn asks after a long moment.

“That’s all, Rinn. Put it back on.” Your voice is normal but a pall of dread settles over you. You shift to the Ensigns, quickly waking them and repeating the procedure inside their hovertanks.

Tremko and Rao’s protective suits are the same, but neither of the others show any signs of decay. A confirmation of your fears, neither Fie nor DuBois ever left their hovertanks, instead standing guard outside the facility the entire time.

Finally, you contact Ivanova and inform her of the situation. She nods, calmly asking for details before checking her own gear. Her report is... surprising.

“What do you mean, nothing?”

She holds up an arm, “I mean there are no signs of decay. My armor is of... better quality of course, but from the pictures of the damage you showed me there should be some effect. I’m not detecting any deterioration, however.”

“You’re sure?”

“Very. I, ah, would notice any damage to the suit.” She reaches up and taps behind her left ear where you remember seeing the leads plugged in before.

>>15921139
>And tell her to bring Erella's body!
>We can use her blood as lube!

Gwar likes where this story is heading.

1. Get the survivors to the surface and have them assess each other's gear
2. Have the doc start the real-time track on their biostats
3. Build a decontamination profile, like, YESTERDAY. We need our peeps alive.
4. Attempt to save the drones. From what I've read, they've touched less than the people.
5. DON'T PANIC.

Remember, unless we're completely thorough and 100% specific in all further instructions and actions, we'll also lose Ivanova, Rinn, all the ensigns, and all the equipment down there.

>Bitching

Hah hah.

Okay, guys. You've convinced me. No takie-backies, either.

Next time I will not, out of the goodness of my heart, have one person touch a fast-acting element of the thing slowly eating away at the armor of everyone so you will be forewarned with a minor loss. I will instead just keep writing and then after you have all spent the proper amount of time saying things like "NAH, WE HAVE NO TIME PRESSURE, IT'S COOL." they will all drop dead.

And this will be my face.

>>15921198
You do realize that this thing kills in something like 30 seconds, right? Standard decon isn't going to work.

>>15921241

SQUAD BROKEN!

You, sir, are fucking awesome.

Pic related.

>>15921241
on the other hand, we'd have rather you not have our troops decide to poke some random blood while we're all screaming "Be careful! This sounds like he's going to sick zombies on us!
Get the fuck away!"

>>15921269
No worries, mate! I assure you, it won't happen again.

>>15921241

hard mode: ACTIVE

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED!

as for the bitching, personally I don't mind losing the doctor. I just couldn't help but agree that her DERP was strong on that one.

>>15921241
Ah, so this is you killing people off to vent your anger at the people who wanted to take things slowly, probably because that would require you to write more.

Honestly, I had almost forgotten this side of you. Not sure why, you killed off plenty of people because you were annoyed at people being hesitant about giving concrete suggestions back in omni quest. Which, incidentally, just lead to even greater reluctance to give any suggestions at all.

>>15921296
You really should remember that she's not really trained for this sort of thing. You were the ones who told her to go down. She works in a lab where things are very different.

So yes, it was actually reasoned out as well.

>>15921282

Oh, great mormon jeezus, Vedi done dropped Alice in the thread. Gwar REALLY likes where this thread is going!

Also,
>>15921296
I agree with this anon. HARDMODE ENGAGED!

>>15921320
"I work in a lab testing sample of blood that very well could be infected with Super AIDs. Lets take off my glove and touch some of the blood."

>>15921320
Considering that in a lab they probably do work with serious biohazard stuff, I'm not really buying that.

Hmm, wat do.

>Have the doc start the real-time track on their biostats
>Build a decontamination profile, like, YESTERDAY. We need our peeps alive.
These. Not so sure about not scrapping everything that went inside the base.

Am I correct in understanding that the surface of the moon is hard vacuum? Microbial life forms can't spread via vacuum. Keep everyone in vacuum as much as possible.

I'm trying to decide on a way to decontaminate the virus. Burn all the suits in cleansing fire as long as it doesn't kill those inside them? Dip everyone in acid? Expose everyone to hard vacuum as they jump out of their suits and into something less contaminated?

How do you kill that which is unkillable.

>>15921282
For the record, I advocated searching for decontamination tolls the entire time.

>>15921346
By preparing a jump to our next target since everyone's fucked?

>>15921320

fair enough.

I'm feeling quite bad about missing the last thread, though. the whole thing with the evil virus eating containment barriers should have gotten an extra cry of "nuke it from orbit"

While you're responding...

What kind of resistance do the exo suits and their underarmors/suits have to fire? How long can they keep the wearer alive in fire?

>>15921346

Techically, "extremophile microbes tend to only only be robust under one set of extreme environmental circumstances; if we find out what these things are "strong" to, we can kill them with alternative extremes.
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremophile

>>15921332

"I work in a lab testing samples of blood that very well could be infected with Super AIDs. Lets take off my Exterior glove leaving me still protected by the secondary Biohazard suit and touch some of the blood to examine it because thats what the captain asked."

She used preventitive measures, They just werent good enough. Its not like she took the whole thing off.

In addition, I'm pretty sure we can accept hard mode as a challenge, with the caveat that we are not likely to send people off the ship ever again, especially to a secret underground Super Space Aids Facility.

Granted, the transmission from Head Doctor of the secret underground Super Space Aids Facility stated there were frozen people down there, and we've been pretty clear in our intention to rescue all humans so far. There was no way we would not have gone down there with that kind of bait.

That said, I'm not sure what do with Ivanova. Probably a good idea to get her out, since she's the only one that's immune, apparently.

Well shit.

I do not know what to do.

Haven't these guys developed an antidote for this thing? .... Though even if they did, I doubt it would work on mutated virus.
But still, doesn't hurt to try.

>>15921380
3 hours later. . .

>She's infected too. Trollololololol

>>15921376

As an addendum, please recall that our ship has already verified it's ability to alter the environments of compartments to suit the habitability needs of it's occupants; gravity, atmospheric composition and the like. I'm sure we'll have no problem cooking up an environmental Auschwitz that the spacebug will not like at all.

Well, it looks like these last two threads have been a total loss. Though the two before that were even worse, so... positive trend?

>>15921376
Yeah, but the thing about Super Space Aids is that it also has the added benefit of Super Never Die Serum that's kept it alive.

I know one thing for sure that will stop the virus. Freezing it. The frozen people haven't died from exploded eyes.

>>15921402
Well, 8 of them haven't yet, but if the other tubes were any indicator, they will in 30 seconds if we thaw them out.

>>15921394
Considering that it's got that other thing keeping it alive, and that it's still kicking after 65,000 years of just sitting around, I doubt we have anything aside from the cluster eater capable of getting rid of it. And if it can eat through the armor, then it can also conceivably eat through our own hull as well, given enough time. And it's immortal, so its got all the time it needs. We can't bring it back up.

>>15921414
Yeah, we're not thawing anything out--they are all dead.

This entire site should be nuked from orbit with a singularity warhead.

I'm saying "freeze our guys to slow the virus" and "keep them all in hard vacuum because that will stop the spread of the virus in between places."

>>15921391
Of course she's infected too, but the intense radiation is inhibiting its spread. As soon as she leaves boom, dead.

>>15921427
Better, get what we need out of the agro-world then set the black hole powering the station to go loose, then we leave and let the singularity devour everything.

>>15921434
>intense radiation is inhibiting its spread
Yeah, but (in the long-term) we don't want to inhibit its spread. We want to kill it with fire.

In the short-term, bringing down cryopods and freezing our infected team members might be a good idea.

>>15921419

65k years of the SAME environment. This actually would make it MORE susceptible to a rapidly varying environment than a wildtype. Microbes are AMAZING specialists; but their size and simplicity(the things that make them absolute terrors under their optimal environmental conditions) keeps them from being successful across a broad range of environments. If we bombard the spacebug with enough rapidly changing environmental extremes QUICKLY (to eliminate the chances of generational adaptation) we CAN kill it, easily.

>>15921334
>>15921332
You seem to forget she was still in full NBC gear. People touch biohazards all the time in said gear.

>hardmode
Not really. I'm not an Gygaxian asshole or anything. Nor do I make these problems brainbusters. I just took pity on you because anon is a hivemind and some people always got dragged along for the ride onto a course of action they felt was suicidal.

> Tremko and Rao’s protective suits are the same, but neither of the others show any signs of decay. A confirmation of your fears, neither Fie nor DuBois ever left their hovertanks, instead standing guard outside the facility the entire time.

So from the looks of it the people who didn't go in might be fine, but everyone else is as good as dead.

>>15921452
You forget, when a DM wants people dead, they die.

>>15921376

well, the bug seems to be immune to radiation.
that leaves:
1) FIRE (usually a good bet!)
2)freeze it (doesn't work if the bug encapsulates)
3) SPACE BLEACH! [send vat of SPACE BLEACH down in a tank, dip exo suits]
4) Alcohol [requires 70%+] [destroys cell wall, killing cells]

Ok, i've got a plan...

we send down another tank with vats of alcohol and SPACE BLEACH. Each team member goes swimming in SPACE BLEACH, then alcohol. If that doesn't kill the bug, we'll need to use the cluster eater and abandon the people we sent down...

>>15921464
Good thing they set up that still, huh?

>>15921457
>as good as dead

Wouldn't say that. We might have a chance to save them if we can whip up a decontamination procedure that's effective. At this point, it looks like cleansing fires or caustic chemicals might be the answer.

>>15921372
>What kind of resistance do the exo suits and their underarmors/suits have to fire? How long can they keep the wearer alive in fire?

Depends on how hot it is. Let's just say they can resist up to "really, really fucking hot."

>>15921464
>>15921464
>>15921464
>>15921464

This motherfucker is playing with SCIENCE!

A less silly variety of this, please.

And
>>15921462
What makes you think Vedi wants to kill our entire away team?

It seems like 1/3rd of the people always don't want to go along with a given action.

Just because they were right this time, they get to feel all justified and vindicated - even though there was literally no prior evidence to think that something like this could have happened.

Tragedies occur sometimes. This was one of them. The only way it could have been prevented was to not send anyone but Ivanova down there at all - and how could we have possibly known that?

There's no reason to beat ourselves up over this, guys. The only thing we can do is try to do better next time.

>>15921481
It's kind of what he does. This isn't his first quest you know.

>>15921474
> At this point, it looks like cleansing fires or caustic chemicals might be the answer.

Maybe. But we need to figure out specifics, or Vedibere is going to have the decon procedure be lethal. We need to figure out precisely what to use, and in what specific quantities, so that the bug dies but the person doesn't.

Of Note Rinn and Erella were the only two to go down to the lab area, it could only have been down there and wasn't transferred to Ivanova.

>>15921483
The trolling butthurt is strong with this one.

>>15921483
Oh come on, she was barely a step above a redshirt.

Had he killed off Ivanova or Dai in a similar, shocking and sudden manner, I'd be right there with you.

>>15921482
actually...
>[from last thread] "Test cases for both strains progressed from stages two to three much faster than anticipated, biological containment seals were eaten away between the containment areas."
> biological containment seals were eaten away between containment areas
>containment seals eaten away

yeah, we really should have expected the inner suits to get eaten away at...

>>15921482
Vedi shouldn't be asking "why.jpg" because "frozen people" is bait we were going to almost certainly bite. And bite it we did, having nobody else to blame for it than ourselves.

Now let's kill that Space Aids with Space Bleach and Cleansing Fire. Or at least try to.

From a writing perspective, you can really only kill off two kinds of characters.

Redshirts, and characters people love.

Somehow, this character was both of them. She may as well have had a target painted on her forehead.

>>15921452
>CAN kill it, easily
>MIGHT kill, maybe

ftfy

Hundreds of the brightest people worked on this virus. I am going to bet that it is hardy as fuck.
Most likely it was going to be used against aliens, who each and every one of them have unique environment and biology

>>15921515
I suppose someone should have asked (or if they did I just didn't see it) what those eaten away containment seals were like in comparison to the suits.

>>15921518
and not only is it hardy as fuck, it very well could have combined with the bug nearby that makes it invincible!

>>15921493

Engage the xeno protocols on the ship. high pressure methane atmosphere. He said the suits can tolerate 'very hot", so, we thermobomb our guys, maybe even run them through alcohol based fire. with chemicals, we have a cornucopia of options to slather/spray down our away team and drones/vehicles that will be outside the survival envelope of the bug.

Hell, we know a couple o fthings about it now: It's going to be based on the same physiology we are. Why? because we're it's victims!

>>15921497
Except that 2 of the ensigns have similar damage on their armor.

>>15921529
We had asked questions like that. Our answer was
>The radiation in the labs is approaching ludicrous levels, but the suits can handle it. The readings on the panels behind the blast doors on the lab level show levels even higher, though. Enough to begin liquifying low grade unisteel and would begin damaging the suits with long term exposure.

Should have known better than to trust a sidestepped answer.

>>15921516
Yep.

We weren't going to pass this place up now that we went and finally found some humans. >>15916946

>>15921517

>>15921533
> Engage the xeno protocols on the ship.

First off, be careful about saying that. Vedibere might take that suggestion and use it to kill the crew, as the people on the ship right now don't have suits on.

Second, it's unclear if the weakened suits can withstand that. We need to figure out what's left of the integrity. If we don't, then more likely than not the decon process will kill the person.

>>15921540
My bad, misread that as the two ensigns didn't have damaged seals.

Disregard, suck cocks, et cetera.

Immolate the inside of the dead scientist's hovertank. the thing is shot already, and the helmet and glove are removed.

When the fire dies, inspect her corpse. If the corpse isn't charred or ash, the fucking thing is immune to fire.

If it is immune to fire, we need to get Sodium hypochlorite and the highest concentration of alcohol we have down there. Spray/dip the remaining exosuits in both substances, then pray.

Awesome, so...we hahve a plan?

I like the sciencefag ideas. Let's do that. We're not getting anywhere being bitter about what meta stuff got her killed.

>>15921576
It's only a vague plan. Vedibere uses vague plans to kill characters. We need specifics.

We could try bumping the virus gently with Parson.

That might help.

Also, maybe we should try to open the cryos on the surface anyway?

After we evacuate everyone from here of course, we will do it remotely through the drones.

Maybe, just maybe, on a very off chance, the damn virus dies in extreme cold? Or maybe the damn scientist will be able to blurt out if they have any antidotes developed before expiring?

I mean, it is not like we are going to lose anything by doing this.

>>15921567

There you go again, anon, he has yet to buttfuck us AD&D wish spell-style.

I was tossing out the idea in general and I'm sure everyone else read it that way. I'm also pretty sure the ENTIRE ship cannot into methane, as I doubt we have that much methane in stock. Also, as for suit integrity, you can vac test that for absolute proof, but I'm betting the suits have internal diagnostics that can determine suit integrity.

>use kedgente

Capta recommends we apply 'kedgente' to all of our planetside assets. We should get on this right away.

>>15921623
> but I'm betting the suits have internal diagnostics that can determine suit integrity.

Only Ivanova's does. The others don't.

>>15921596
Would you like some cheese to go with that whine? Vedis given us almost 20 threads with nobody dying and weve done all kinds of stupid things. He even said if we did suicidal stuff he would kill us off and then we charge into a base that had a super space virus break containment and kill everyone inside.

I for one wouldnt blame him if he had just ended the quest by doing what idiots were saying earlier and bringing the away team up then eveyrone dying. Your just whining because you think you are entitled to run over everything and win forever or something.

>>15921634
Well, we should see about making that standard issue.

>>15921623

Fuck Me In The Ass Addendum: Why don't we OVERPRESSURE the goddamn suits? This way, if any of them start developing the same micropunctures, the air pressure will be positive INSIDE the suits, to force(gently) foreign particulate OUT?

>>15921641
You mean her PLOT ARMOR?

Yeah, sure wish we had the materials to stretch that out to the entire crew - fuck let's get the ship coated in it.

>>15921623
The suits that Rinn and company are wearing don't have any method of testing integrity. That's why Erella didn't notice anything until she got infected. That's why Rinn and the others had to actually look at the damage themselves. Ivanova has a fancy shamcy spook suit, so she can detect suit damage, but none of the others do.

>>15921639
You don't seem to remember omni quest. Go read it.

>>15921643

So overpressure the suits a hair, and a precautionary measure. Find all the medicinal alcohol and space bleach we can find. Apply liberally to suits.

if that fails, apply fire liberally to suits.

If that fails, I'm going to have to resort to dwarf-fortress levels of !!SCIENCE!! here and suggest magma.

>>15921649
You'd think raising or lowering the pressure to being just slightly different than that outside of the suit and then comparing the two with something like a simple mechanical pressure valve would do it.

Apparently the Ophidian Empire's balls were too big for things like "Obvious Safety Regulations" when we got shit like Unisteel that's immune to 99% of everything ever.

I don't even know where I was going with this post. It's 3AM and I've been up for like the entire day.

>>15921649
In generally that's a rather poor system for an advanced military NBC suit, especially if it has sensors to detect hazardous radiation and presumably other hazardous environments.

>>15921639
Hey
Slightly bumping the star to move it away from the derelict warship was a sound suggestion!

>>15921649

I can't find a reference for your assumption, you'll have to show me where he's said any of that definitively. Considering that they're wearing powered combat-oriented hazardous environment armor, that they lack ANY means of verifying suit integrity. Shit, our astronauts can do that NOW.

>>15921671
Riddle me this, Batman:

what kind of diagnostics is so shitty it can't detect a breach so catastrophic as to be immediately visible in a perfect seal? Seriously, a simple mechanical pressure valve from the 1800's could have done this job.

Not that I'm blaming you Vedibere, we totally deserved to get fucked here. I'm just questioning the chain of logic used to get to this point.

VB if the suits had diagnostics run before they got int he tanks, how long after that was it that the girl died?

>>15921662

Lol. Add waking parson up to punch him in the face again to the list of "Wat Do?". It might not make anything better, but dammit, it'll feel good.

The power armor does have diagnostics, but it has to sit down and take time to run them. They all did that before climbing into the hovertanks to sleep and there was no damage. The visual check was just a quick thing because you noticed it visually.

It has damage reporting, of course. But are you really expecting a civvie who didn't even know how to put it on, was obviously shown as not knowing how to work it properly, and who was sleeping and had her armor mostly powered down would be... just...

why.jpg

>>15921671
how many hours were they asleep? that'd give us a time table on if it's possible to save them.

>>15921689
Why.jpg is a catastrophic breach not shown as a massive red flashing warning exclamation point on the helmet's HUD?

>>15921695
>>15921689

SNRK. The answer before the question. Nice.

>>15921661

That's my idea, bro in a general sense. We should ask Vedi about all of the ideas on the table, since there are universe-specific laws we may not be privy to.

>>15921704
Because.jpg
It's turned off.

>>15921704
It isn't. End of discussion. Don't like the way the quest is going? No one is forcing you to stay here. Now sit down and shut the fuck up already or get out.

>>15921685
Oh God.
Imagine doing that every time something goes amiss or when we are generally in bad mood.

After a decade of sailing through the galaxy, it would have happened hundreds of times. From the perceptive of the Captain there would be at least a month in between Parson punching but from his perspective, he would have been hit hundreds of times in just few minutes.
His eternal rest would be forever interrupted by a good punch in the face.

Perhaps we should consult with some of the specialists we have in stock about what the best way to kill Super Space Aids is.

>>15921712
Actually, I think killing her off was the best move Vedibere has made the entire quest.

IT'S JUST THAT NONE OF THE EVENTS LEADING UP TO IT MAKE ANY GODDAMN SENSE

>>15921732
caps to communicate an apparent need for clarity, not anger.

>>15921689
Because we assume competency of design and personnel.

And if not the latter then at least the former. In a setting where black holes, full on stellar motherfuckers too, are used as power sources that a suit of advanced power armor has passive structural sensors, especially if it's expected to be used in hostile environments such as during biological attacks or in a vacuum..

This is the equivalent of not putting a threat warning system on a jet fighter and expecting the pilot to simply spot the surface to air missiles coming at it.

>>15921718

Specifically, we should run our shopping list of potential solutions by them and get input on them from the specialists.

>>15921713

That is so fucking win. I love it.

>why.jpg
>expects people to have detailed knowledge of things never explained or indicated as relevant.

>You seem to forget she was still in full NBC gear. People touch biohazards all the time in said gear.
Correction, they HANDLE biohazards using said gear. You never ever EVER touch the sample unless you plan to take off your glove and immediately burn it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_manipulator

themoreyouknow.jpg

>>15921704
>>15921732
She turned it off. I don't understand why you are getting so very upset Nor why you are apparently unable to read.

>>15921732
>>15921738

They don't make sense to you, that's your problem. So deal with it or get the fuck out. This is the way it is. End of discussion.

>>15921747
Ok, now answer this. Why the hell would you turn off one of the safety devices keeping you alive in case of malfunction?

>>15921747
So she can't use the damage readout but she can completely shut down her armor including any passive protection and detection systems?

Seriously, Vedibere. I love your quest, and I'm not protesting you killing off a character.

But the chain of logic leading up to it just makes no fucking sense.

>>15921747
So wait. She didn't know enough about the suit to put it on without assistance, but apparently did know enough about it to turn off any integrity warnings, and also thought that this was a good idea when walking into a bioweapon facility, which stood a very good chance of being a veritable soup of harmful everything.

>>15921704
>>15921732
>>15921742


I want you "people" to go into your bathrooms, raise your toilet seats and place your genitals on the cool porcelain rims of your toilets. Now, I want you to take the seat in your off hand, and smash it down on your genitals as hard as you can for as many repetitions as you can tolerate without losing consciousness.

Learn to cope, godammit, the rest of Ged's psyche has moved on.

>>15921750
>>15921751
>>15921755
>>15921756
Just shut the fuck up you idiot. It's done. Move on. End. Of. Discussion.

>>15921755
This.

I'd be more willing to accept the explanation that the Harbringer, being a warship, was not equipped to go and deal with hazmat situations, and thus was equipped with bargain-bin previous generation suits - except for Ivanova.

IT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE THIS WAY.

Great. First the diplomacy idiots, and now whiners who can't just except when something bad happens and just deal with it. Fuck off, all of you, your running this quest into the ground.

>>15921761
>>15921759
No, fuck you guys. I accept that the character is dead, hell I don't even give a fuck that she is. But we deserve to know what mistake was made to avoid making it in the future.

THIS WHOLE THREAD

BOTH SIDES