>>17752522
Looks like I'm just in time.

Here's a list of things that NEED TO GET DONE RIGHT NOW.

While international attention and goodwill is still high: Talk to India and Russia about acquiring some more fast movers, and a fourth Frogfoot. (4 Su-24M2, or 4 Su-35/Su-30 MKI)

Talk to whoever we can about buying ATGMs, grenade launchers, and SVDs, and PKMs. We also need to talk to Israel about supplying us with Negev LMGs.

We should buy 2 companies worth of BTR 80s and 90s, 72/25 split.

Talk to Russia and India about buying a company of T-90s. We can increase to 2 armored battalions (1 BMP company, 2 BTR companies, 1 T-90 company) after we get our second mine and inland oil exploited.

We need more air defence for our troops, as well. We need Pantsir systems for company and battalion level defense, as well as SA-8 systems for battalion and area defense. See if Russia is willing to sell 2 batteries of S-300 system in light of the SCUD attack, as well as 3 batteries of dummies.

Just reposting this here in the new Thread. Replies to Aviationfag and his awesome yet expensive want for Flankers, and Anon who was worried about a 1st world Nation such as USA, China, most of Europe, Brazil, etc attacking us with Force Projection powers.

>>17752401
Fencer's fill the role cheaper, and we have the LICENSE to manufacture the damned parts for it! I was under the impression that our Fulcrum's and Frogfeet were being maintained by the Russkies at our airbase, with Zanzi assistance/learning. A small and highly efficent/well trained airforce is great (ala Royal Australian Air Force/Isreali Air Force style), but I still think we need more multi-role fighters, at least a Squadron of Fencer's. MiG-21's are ok for us now, but eventually they will need to be replaced. If we can wait a year, Russia might be willing to sell us Flankers and then we buy 2-3 squadrons worth and replace our old Fishbeds at the same time with a much better aircraft that can do just about everything.

Also, do we really need the Frogfeet now? I'm sure the squadron of Super Tuccano's we have for training and CAS can take over there, especially if we end up with Fencers/Flankers for our fast moving Air To Ground.

>>17752435
Its not a matter of Superpowers force projecting us, its a matter of the 3 nations around us attacking with more men and armour. We only have a single company of BMP-2's. They have a 70mm cannon, and there is only 20 of em. I worry about Liberia and their recent expansion into Ivory Coast. We *need* medium tanks (T55 minimum) to deal with enemy threats. Tanks are a great asset to have, infantry will refuse to assault them in the open, they boost friendly Morale, they have BIG GUNS, and they're fast and manouverable. It also frees up our airforce from tank hunting to overall close air support of the Army and Air Defence.

Well, after just looking at the armies of our various neighbors, I now agree that we still need to spend more on our army.


Do what these
>>17752604
>>17752610
people tell us to do, that's my vote

I have to say I'm against the purchase of Su-30s atm. As Fleet Admiral Anon says, we can make do with what we have now and upgrading (and expanding) our army is a higher priority.

>>17752604
that is a first world army bought in one go .

No wahy we can sustain that and not go broke. rework this with t-75 , or no tanks at all.

The BTRs are needed and the Frogfoot can wait. a cheap MiG 21 , with LanceR Modification to act as figther bombers will do just fine

>>17752610
I'd consider just using infantry divisions armed with RPG-29s as a cheap tank killer. Also, antitank mines are another good deal.

>>17752671

You do know we HAVE 20 fishbeds, right?

They are NOT very good ground-attack aircraft.

We just bought 10 Patrol Boats, those ain't cheap. We should be able to eat the cost of 2 companies of BTRs and 4 fast movers, either Fencers OR Flankers, with our economic state as is.

>>17752697

>mines

I dunno about that man. Aren't those banned by international law? Won't it make us look bad?


And no one wants to deal with demining.

>>17752604

I can get behind purchasing a flight of Fencers. Lets do that.

>>17752610

The STs are good planes for counter insurgency work. As an patrol craft for the interior and over our forested regions, they'll work perfectly but if we throw them into a full blown war, their slow prop speeds will doom them and their pilots.


Mil stuff mostly looks good, so

>>17752522

We need Medals. ASAP.

I'd say the units that participated in the fighting should given a Presidential Unit Citation.

And Andingo Swa'sin for a Distinguished Flying Cross

We can use this for PR work. Perhaps some media outlets would love to purchase an exclusive with the hero of the hour.

Oh, why dont we try some of our own weapons production?

We do want to consider some Anti-tank protection, so why dont we, the Zanzi people, with various russian engineers assistance if they'll give it, Develop some anti-tank platforms of our own?

If we're trying to be an indepent state, then lets work a bit on developing our own protection, for the test, fixed gun emplacements could be simple enough.

>>17752752
Seconding this, and >>17752726
this medal idea.

>>17752726

I actually thought about this. All the forces who participated will get a ribbon for the battle.

All the pilots will get a medal for their bravery in the face of danger, Swa'sin will get an additional, better medal, probably our highest award. The Frogfoot pilot who kept his plane together also gets a second medal, some form of mid-level one. The Helo squadron gets a citation for bravery, as does our SF, for the insertion. No sense going all willy-nilly with medal, that is the mark of a tin-pot. Any other meritous actions I didn't cover also get mid-level medals beyond what's given. Any wounded get our Purple Heart equivalent.

>>17752719
I've never heard of any international law along those lines. The main problem that I see is the issues associated with creating a DMZ next to our neighbors. There are Iranian mines that can supposedly be disarmed electronically, but I'd keep good records just in case. Note that antitank mines take a lot of pressure to set off and should thus not kill as many civilians.
>>17752752
The only thing I would make domestically would be a main battle rifle, and we already have a lot of those. A Kalashnikov rip-off would be good if we ever went with the militia idea.

>>17752787
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottawa_Treaty

Turns out it was only for anti-personnel mines. I still dunno how I feel about mines; I'd rather avoid them, but if it's necessary...

>>17752752
Do you have any idea the costs of weapons development?
This is just a stupid idea.

>>17752752

I can see some homegrown defence industry being sustainable.

If it does produce totally new systems, these will have to be confined to infantry carried ones due to price consideration.

Otherwise, this defence research company can work on modifications and upgrades that we require.

For example: additional armour for our vehicles, overhauls for our planes and customisation of weapon systems.

(Pic is real, if yall want link I can provide, but post ID is in photo.)

MAY 2016 - STATE REPORT
-------------------------------------------

-Incident 2 results: Paperwork confirms that these are working with the other rebels, and much of the equipment came from Burkina, and in turn, from Libya at some point during the Libyan Revolution. Two survivors are in the hospital, under military guard. Interrogation is scheduled for as soon as they are healthy.

-Military Hardware Needs are on hold at this time while repairs are done to our current equipment post battle. (Editor's Note: For you /k/ommandos lurking here. When you decide we need to order some X Y and Z, put it in a list with - or >, I am so-so knowledgeable in most gear, but I can't visually sort 20 items in a list.)

-Swa'sin City placement is still under question, perhaps a suggestion?

-KFC would like to open a store in your capital!

-NeoTekz has found an application to the nanites. They are capable of using them to construct items smaller than a Book Box (roughly 14x14x14'') using the nanites to move material like a 3D printer. It can work off any CAD files. They can replicate themselves in this printer box.

-Ghana Flu has begun spreading person to person in a small village. It is under maximum quarantine now.

-Enemy Submarine Spotted! Another submarine spotted, in INTL waters on the surface. Identified as an American Submarine (20 internets to whomever recognizes that reference in title.)

-Black Superman has become a craze. Growing number of people are beginning to believe he is a real super hero with super powers. The rest find him a funny thing. Some tourists from overseas have booked flights to our country to meet this super hero for "teh lulz" as they put it.

>>17752817
Honestly, I wouldn't use them in peacetime. If we're already building North Korea tier border defenses, than we might as well, but otherwise screw it.
>>17752830
I would stick to time tested Soviet designs. I'm thinking we give the government some powers of commandeering so that we can have a near instantaneous buildup in a war.

>>17752817

Personally, I don't think we need mines. We have a decent enough airforce that anyone trying to push in armor is going to be absolutely SHITKICKED by our frogfeet. Those things flying tanks of doom. Assuming we didn't get shafted, each one can carry 11 ATGMs, meaning any armor push would be suicidal since we just demonstrated how clearly we can fuck over someone with a half-decent air watch(For Africa).

after some wiki research on mines, AT mines seem to be legal and general OK, while AP mines are a big no-no, unless your Russia, china or the US

I've just sorta picked up on this, but we're going the direct opposite of most African nations and forming a small yet effective Armed Forces. We've only something like 12,000 Men in the Army, no milita, although we are implementing Swiss/Isreali consripction across all branches including technical.

So we want to hit hard and fast, with overwhelming force. There is a great way to do this. We make several Light Infantry Battalions for jungle warfare, ala the Australian Army (Highly trained and motivated). Then, we build an Armoured Cavalry Regiment, preferably two.

An Armoured Cavalry Regiment has the advantages of being a fully self contained force able to smash through enemy armour, hold ground effectively and is highly mobile. To create an ACR, we will need a Tank Battalion (2-3 Companies of Tanks, total of around 32-48 tanks), a Mechanized Infantry Battalion (2-3 Companies of Infantry with BMP-2's), a Motorized Artillery Battery, (Self propelled Guns of some sort, 4-12 of them), and if we're feeling really spendy an Attack Helicopter Squadron (4-12 Attack Helicopters, our Hinds would fill this role very nicely, but some Eurocopter Tigers would be bloody brilliant!).

It looks expensive, and it is, but we would be able to smash just about anything short of a Brigade sized Assault+ by a combined arms enemy. An ACR can stand up to and fight a US marine Ampibious Landing Group on near even terms with support from our Air Force.

Okay, we should really concentrate on a strong CDC type organization. Also, Black Superman should be a medal for valor or something.
>>17752863
How are our Special Operations forces? For the cost, they're some of the most cost effective things we can buy. Also, we should build an AR-18 factory to arm all of these conscripts.

>>17752839

Have neotekz test out their functionality as a battlefield ammunition dispenser. If it works well, and can literally fart out complete, filled magazines, we might have a winner in terms of revolutionary battlefield technology. Ask them to make one capable of creating any of the ordnance we use.

Purchases:

- India or Russia - While goodwill is high, get costs on the following:
-4 Su-24M2
-4 Su-35 OR Su-30 MKI (Or an equivalent)
-4 MiG-35
-1-3 Su-25

- 2 Company-level formations of BTRs (72/25 split of 80s and 90s)

- 18 T-90 tanks, with full ERA, electronics, and ATGM capability. (16 tanks for the line, 2 trainers/spares)

- Grenade Launchers, Negev LMGS(Israel), PKM Machine guns, and Dragunov SVDs.

>>17752850
Things like the Claymore is allowed as AP as it is (often) command detonated and not as a trap.

I know for one that Sweden has also renamed it from Truppmina (troop mine) to Försvarsladdning (Defensive charge)

>>17752839

>Rebels

Ask KGB/ZIA about possible infiltration of the remaining rebels.

>Swa'sin City

Was that the "green city" thing? I'm ok with it, I guess.

>KFC

No. The fewer multinationals we have, the better.

>Neotekz

Hmmmm. How much would such a thing cost? If it's affordable, we might be able to do some home-grown weapons manufacturing after all.

>Submarine

Contact USA. Politely ask why they have submarines near our coasts.

>Black superman

Same terms as before. He's still breaking the law, so he should still be arrested. Just not put in jail for all that long. Just a fine. Maybe an invitation to join the police force, if he's so intent on stopping crime.

>>17752892
Why not make it a gun dispenser? Once again, AR-18s for everyone.

>>17752839

>KFC

Welcome them. Our citizens would love it. There is only one requirement: THE CRISPY RECIPE MUST BE PRESENT

>NeoTekz

Good work on the progress. Do they have a cost estimate on how much a single run will cost?

>Ghana Flu

Keep in close contact with the WHO. Perhaps the WHO would like to open up a Disease Control Center here in our country? (I cannot remember the correct name now but there are several regional centers active around the world, singapore, being one)

>Enemy Sub

...This is strange... why would such a sub be showing themselves on the surface? Their capabilities don't require them to do so, not even when inserting SFs.

>Black Superman

Leave that madman alone, promote the heros of our Armed Forces instead.

I'll put 50 bucks on Black Superman going insane with the new status in the public eye and try to eventually overthrow us.

Yes, the people are that fucking stupid as a whole.

>>17752839
>Swa'sin City
Suggest the west half of the nation. That way a military base could be built near the IC border and to protect the city.

>KFC
They're welcome to open a store.

>flu
Maintain quarantine. Have our top medical professionals work to find a vaccine.

>nanotechnology
See if the nano-assembler can be used in some of our factories. Give NeoTekz another shot of cash.

>>17752915

It can't build things that big yet. We have the tools to make guns, but ammo production RIGHT ON THE BATTLEFIELD? Or even just a platoon level? That shit is a fucking GOLD MINE. EVERYONE will want it. After that, we can look into a Shadowrun style nanofax that uses propietary feedstock to fart out complete guns, ammo, and magazines.

>>17752931
There's got to be something sexier that this thing can do. Microchips? At least we can build the trigger assembly for a gun and make the barrel and furniture the conventional way.

>>17752922

.....Fuck.

>>17752948

>microchips

FUCKING

GENIUS


Computers, man. This is what we need right now. Oh man, we'd be making so much dosh.

>>17752948

Microchip production is a mature tech, and probably cheaper. Logistics like this on a battlefield, though? Money can't buy INSTANT BULLETS.

>>17752956
It still requires laser engraving. Once microchips cost a few pennies each, we can build the most amazing army the world has ever seen. Ballistic missiles fucking everywhere.

>>17752839
>NeoTekz

I'm assuming the nanites can also be used for disassembly. The potential for recycling is enormous.

I'm debating whether we should sell the ammo-farting nanites in their full form, or put some kind of limiter on them when we sell them to other countries, but keep our unlimited. That way we'd still have the edge if faced with our own tech.

>>17752931

It produces things by CAD

This implies that it functions as a 3D printer.

This means that material has to be supplied to it, eg. (and most probably) plastics. I don't believe it can just build stuff out of thin air...

...and it can I would be terrified of a Grey Goo scenario. This thing needs more research and a reliable kill switch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_goo

>>17752982

If it's just plastics, we have this already, in real life. That's why I'm assuming it's not.

>>17752982
Wait, can it reproduce a material down to the molecular level? Because I'm seeing an enormous potential counterfeiting diamonds.

>>17752969
>Disassembly
And therein lies one of our greatest weapons: the nano-disassembler.
It can take targets apart at the molecular level. Trees, structures, people, societies.

>>17752998

Things that shouldn't exist: that.

>>17752892
This is my counter order to Aviationfag's order. Less Air Force, more Army and Attack Heli support.

Purchases:

Air Force
-12 Su-24M2 (Latest Variant Fencer, multirole Aircraft)
-4 Su-25 (Frogfoot)
-8-12 Mi-28 Havoc Attack Helicopters. If Russia won't sell Mi-28s, get another 8-12 Mi-24 Hinds.

Army
- 3 Company-level formations of BTRs (72/25 split of 80s and 90s)
- 18 T-90 tanks, with full ERA, electronics, and ATGM capability. (16 tanks for the line, 2 trainers/spares)
-If we can't get the T-90's, buy 18 German Leopard 2's or Leopard 1's. Failing that, 36 T-55's (32 for the line in 2 Tank Companies of 16 each, 4 Trainers/spares)
- Grenade Launchers, Negev LMGS(Israel), PKM Machine guns, and Dragunov SVDs.

>Swa'sin City
Put it near our western border.

>KFC
YES GOD YES

>Flu
Maintain strict quarantine allow none but government people or doctors to enter or exit the village.

>Sub
Have our patrol boats keep a watch the areas bordering international water to prevent intrusions.

>>17752994
Think bigger. Once you're moving atoms around freely, you can do a whole hell of a lot more than make diamonds.

All those metamaterials that do weird, crazy stuff but can only be made in minute quantities? We can produce those. We can use those. Hell, at the very simplest level we can just fucking make all the oil we want out of hydrogen and carbon.

>>17752994

That could work. We'll need to see how far down this thing can go.

>>17752990

Just giving an example, since I have one, myself.

>>17752998

And the UN will ban this immediately. Let us not.

>>17753008

How about including some Howitzers, self propelled or otherwise? A battery of proper artillery.

>>17753004
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXP2VbhNhyg&sns=em

>>17753008

you know I'm saying we ONLY buy the fencers OR the flankers, based on our economy, right?

I will support more helos, though.

Add in this to my order:

11 Mil Mi-24 Hinds (Latest model, 2 trainers, 9 more for our helo infantry
5 Mil Mi-28 Havocs (Later Model, 1 trainer, 4 for our helo infantry formation)
6 Mil Mi-8 Hips (Latest model, with cargo slings)

Then we'd just need a form of Fast Attack Vehicle we can airlift with our Hips, and our Helo infantry will have heavy ground support.

>>17753008
Supporting this

>Black Superman
Still thinking we can score some major points by erecting a statue of Black Superman brofisting our hotshot pilot as a memorial to this conflict. Sounds like the majority of our population adores both of them and we can draw in some of that Superman tourism to our memorial.

For added effect the statue could feature our glorious leader with his arms around the two of them while they brofist.

>>17753045
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXP2VbhNhyg&sns=em

>>17753008
Air Force
-12 Mi-25 (the export model) Hinds
-6 Su-24 M2

Army
-Fine, keep the BRTs
-6-12 SSph Primuses (howitzers from Singapore)
-2 Combat Engineer Companies
-3 Light Antitank divisions (to be armed with RPG-29s or TOWs)
-

>KFC
Fuck yeah. have them. Prehaps inven incentivize some local competition. nothing to stiff but nothing to small
>NeoTekz
Great. HAve them look for possible hands on application of such 3d Printers. if they can model either metal, polymers or plastics from crude material. even refined material.

This could be a fucking boon in allowing local autoshops to custom build machine parts, mines to work at highly increased efficency,
and a fuckton of other applications.

Even if tis reduced to only light stuff, like plastics, and polymers, it could do some wonders in allowing a fast and cheap way to augment the construction of the Green City and build indoor plumbing everywhere. even in villages. a mighty product indeed!
>Ghana Flu
quarantine. prepare to dispense medication and quarantine in adjectant and nearby areas.
>Enemy Submarine Spotted!
Try to get a grid working with the PT boats. try to see if South Affrica is still interested in the Liberia situation and if they are willing to scare a nuisance off... Might give them the opportunity to engage in a real mock sub hunt, with a bit of support on their side.
>Black Superman has become a craze
Accommodate Tourists. Put it in the Tourism booklets. Try to present a good to very good image beyond the superman craze.
Tourism money is always good and nothing to sneeze at.
Perhaps clean the beaches, and have them compliant with the standards of good resorts, and secure some jungle areas- a good safari with the whole monkey buisnes might be a good idea if any rebel encounter can be keep a
zero.

Or fake faux rebel encounters for the adrenaline junkies. No need to have tourist actually ransomed and killed.


>free action.
start some military build up, either the purchase plans of the /k/omandos, or a larger recruitment campaign and more squad support guns RPGs, DMR and MGs.

>>17753060
It doesn't sound like a majority, just a fringe group.

>KFC
Allow them to build a store, on condition that they surrender the secret recipe to the Grand Leader!

>>17753087
Let them open a store, and use our crazy nanotechnology to steal the recipe. Do the same with Coca Cola.

>>17753060

Better yet, invite him to ceremony where we award Swa'sin. Get a picture of it. THEN make a statue, based on the moment.

>>17753045
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKcEwUcVBHs

Why stop at destruction?

I feel as if we should assassinate Black Superman if he becomes any more of a problem.

Remember, this IS Africa, land of crazed despots and blood thirsty warlords, people will follow the stupidest thing if it's popular enough.

No FUCKING Statue for Black Superman.

I mean, fucking SERIOUSLY? This isn't like Tropico where Statues make the difference between rebellion and non-rebellion.

>>17753098
Check out what an Antaeus-class Adaptive Cruiser can do.

>>17753118

This.

>>17752863

seconding this overall goal.

for SP arty, what about those platforms bull designed for the north koreans? the kosin or sommat? Iraq might have their old ones up for sale.

We should organize all physically able young men into militias that could me mustered in case of emergency. Thoughts suggestions? Of course we would need to somehow get weapons for all these guys. OP, what is Zanzi's population and how many are of military age?

>>17753008
Good point, I completely forgot about the Self Propelled Artillery!

>>17753039
This is my revised order. This buffs both the Air Force and Army considerably, although we may be using our strategic reserves to buy all this hardware, we really need it.

Purchases:

Air Force
-12 Su-24M2 (Latest Variant Fencer, multirole Aircraft)
-4 Su-25 (Frogfoot)
-8-12 Mi-28 Havoc Attack Helicopters. If Russia won't sell Mi-28s, get another 8-12 Mi-24 Hinds.

Army
- 3 Company-level formations of BTRs (72/25 split of 80s and 90s)
- 18 T-90 tanks, with full ERA, electronics, and ATGM capability. (16 tanks for the line, 2 trainers/spares)
-If we can't get the T-90's, buy 18 German Leopard 2's or Leopard 1's. Failing that, 36 T-55's (32 for the line in 2 Tank Companies of 16 each, 4 Trainers/spares)
-12 Russian 2S19 Msta-S 152mm Self Propelled Howitzer.
- Grenade Launchers, Negev LMGS(Israel), PKM Machine guns, and Dragunov SVDs.

We're going to want to decide now whether we're using NATO or Soviet calibers for small arms. My vote is for NATO.

>>17753133
I believe arming the populace is a BAD IDEA with insurgents running around. Instead as we have discussed earlier the institution of a national service and some sort of reserve system.

>>17753159

Yeah, no arming the populace until we've got a strong national unity, like the Western powers.

>>17753154
I'm telling you, T-55s are a waste of money.

New post soon, everything after this post won't be read until postmortem.

>>17753133
We're already instituting mandatory national service. We're going to do this right.

>>17753133

We are already considering a Swiss/Isreal/Singapore style Compulsory Military Service. A couple of years at age 18. Then periodic retraining. This allows us to have a large trained reserve to draw on in wartime.

>>17753159
We wouldn't actually give the reserve militia their weapons and uniforms unless of a national emergency.

>>17753154
Wait, LMGS and PKM? Choose one, we can't have two different supply lines.

>>17753154

Shit, we did forget SPGs, didn't we.

Also, we forgot organic air defense at a company and battalion level.

Add in the following to my order/request for estimate:

-12 Russian 2S19 Msta-S 152mm Self Propelled Howitzer.

- Pantsir SPAAG systems, at least two batteries
- SA-6 gainful system, at least two batteries (Unless there's a more modern mid-range SAM I forgot about)
- S-300 system, 1-2 batteries, plus dummies.

- Igla MANPADs for out infatry.

>>17753225

The Negev is a squad/team level support weapon, ala the M249. The PKM is for our weapons platoons that have our heavy AT, mortars, etc. Since we have the BMP and are getting other russian vehicles, we already have a need for x54R.

We discussed this before.

>>17753272
If we're getting a GPMG, make it an M240, that way we can use NATO DMRs. I suppose we could use 5.56 and 7.63x39, but the idea seems unholy to me. Also, no heavy machine guns?

>>17753225
It's been pointed out that we already do. The coax machine guns on our BMP's and other vehicles use the same ammo as the Dragunov and the PKM.

>>17753310

We're not buddies with NATO, also, we're using 5.56x45 for infantry weapons, and 7.62x54R for DMR/GPMG/coax. Our HMGs are technical mounted KPVs.

>>17753323
>>17753329
Oh, never mind then. Still seems horribly wrong.

>>17753310
That introduces a third bullet type, when we're trying to limit the varieties of calibres we need to stock.
So, no.

>>17753348
What are we doing for handguns?

>>17753243
Ok, so are you happy to go along with the list I've created, with the latest additions of yours? All in All, it sounds pretty damned tight. We're well on the way to creating the Zanzi 1st Armoured Cavalry Regiment, able to kick the shit out of any enemy ground forces.

TO the other anons out there suggesting NATO, no we are not. Most of our tech is Russian, so we're buying Russian to keep our Supply and Maintenance simple and easy. KISS applies to the military too y'know.

THE FINAL ARMS PROCUREMENT LIST:
Air Force
-12 Su-24M2 (Latest Variant Fencer, multirole Aircraft)
-4 Su-25 (Frogfoot)
-8-12 Mi-28 Havoc Attack Helicopters. If Russia won't sell Mi-28s, get another 8-12 Mi-24 Hinds.

Army
- 3 Company-level formations of BTRs (72/25 split of 80s and 90s)
- 18 T-90 tanks, with full ERA, electronics, and ATGM capability. (16 tanks for the line, 2 trainers/spares)
-If we can't get the T-90's, buy 18 German Leopard 2's or Leopard 1's.
-12 Russian 2S19 Msta-S 152mm Self Propelled Howitzer.
- Pantsir SPAAG systems, at least two batteries (12 per battery, for 24 total)
- SA-6 gainful system, at least two batteries (12 per battery, 24 total)
- S-300 system, 1-2 batteries (12-24), plus dummies.

- Igla MANPADs for our infatry.
- Grenade Launchers, Negev LMGS(Israel), PKM Machine guns, and Dragunov SVDs.

>>17753364
I would throw in some RPG-29s. Other than that, perfectly fine.

>>17753364

If we're buying 12 Fencers, we can afford advanced fighters. No sense have that many strike airframes if we can't provide proper air watch

- 6 Su-24M2 (3 Wing-pairs)
-4 of EITHER Su-35, MiG-35, Su-30MKI(Or MK* equivalent)

I think my helo plan is better. We have 4 havocs, which are good enough for what we fight, but it gives us 20 Hinds, 22 if we need to MOVE EVERY ZIG, and 6 Hips, allowing us to field a LOT more airborne infantry.

On my way home... I tried ot make a post but boss jumped me with a meeting...

>>17753364

On the SVD. When we expans into national service we should consider the PSL-54C/FDK Dragunov.

Less performance, cheaper and a fuckton easier to train for, if we have a lot of natural marksmen in the national conscription system, allowing for squad level sniper/marksmen.

>>17753387
I don't think we need them as yet, our Infantry always rides with Mortars and Close Air Support. Also, Grenade Launchers are better for city and jungle fighting, and we're getting those at a squad level I believe.

Didn't we have an arguement over RPG's last thread, and agreed in favour of the Grenade Launchers due to jungle enviromnment?

>>17753425

I think we agreed on guided ATGMs instead of RPGs, and that we needed to buy the latest AT-x series, or french MILANs.

>>17753405
I was thinking we use the S-300s as our primary air defence.
>>17753425
>>17753435
I would prefer another last-ditch line of defense. This won't be our primary tank-killer.

>>17753435
This is what I recall as well. We did want grenade launchers for squad support, though.

>>17753447

We're BUYING S-300s. But those are ground based and if we need to mount an invasion, they won't help our Fencers if they get jumped. 4 Fulcrums means only 2 elements of Fencers can be covered by a wing-pair of fighters, and that just won't end well. 3 Pairs of Fencers, with 1 wing-pair covering each, with a 4th element free? PLUS Fishbeds? That's a winning combo.

Jesus Christ, all this gunwankery. What the fuck happened to developing education? Science? Business? I dunno, fucking run the country? What do we need all this hardware for? Chasing some random machete-wielding insurgents through the jungle? Fucking /k/ ruining this quest.

>>17753405
I know advanced is much better, but we can maintain the Fencer's easier, we have that license. We're still a rather small time African Nation, not Glorious Mother Russia with massive funds. Fishbeds and Fulcrums are our close in dogfighters, Fencers stand back at range with BVR missiles in an AtA engagement. I also forgot about ordering the extra 4 Frogfeet to bring our count to 8 Frogfeet.

If you want more Air Overwatch, I say we up our Fulcrum count to a full Squadron of 12 (4 current) rather than buying MiG-35 Super Fulcrums (Fulcrum-F or whatever they are). Even the Ruskies don't have that many MiG-35's at current.

Swap out:
-12 Su-24M2 Fencer's for
>6 Su-24M2 Fencer's
>8 MiG-29 Fulcrum's (total of 12 after purchase.)

-Helicopters, get:
>4 Mi-28 Havocs
>12 Mi-24 Hinds (22 total after purchase)

Looks good to add?

>>17753469

Our civic programs are running fine without shit getting fucked up. We don't NEED to micro them. But someone just tried to SCUD us. That means we buy up new hardware.

>>17753480

Add in the Hips, they're old, but they have a MASSIVE carrying capacity.

THE FINAL! FINAL!! ARMS PROCUREMENT LIST:
Air Force
-6 Su-24M2 (Latest Variant Fencer, multirole Aircraft)
-4 Su-25 (Frogfoot, 8 total after purchase)
-8 MiG-29 Fulcrum's (total of 12 after purchase.)
-4 Mi-28 Havocs
-12 Mi-24 Hinds (22 total after purchase)
-6 Mi-8 Hips (Transport Helis, friggin big birds)

Army
- 3 Company-level formations of BTRs (72/25 split of 80s and 90s)
- 18 T-90 tanks, with full ERA, electronics, and ATGM capability. (16 tanks for the line, 2 trainers/spares)
-If we can't get the T-90's, buy 18 German Leopard 2's or Leopard 1's.
-12 Russian 2S19 Msta-S 152mm Self Propelled Howitzer.
- Pantsir SPAAG systems, at least two batteries (12 per battery, for 24 total)
- SA-6 gainful system, at least two batteries (12 per battery, 24 total)
- S-300 system, 1-2 batteries (12-24), plus dummies.

- Igla MANPADs for our infatry.
- Grenade Launchers, Negev LMGS(Israel), PKM Machine guns, and Dragunov SVDs.

>>17753510

I can agree to that.

There is one thing, though. Su-24s aren't multirole, they're attack aircraft. At best, with upgrades, they can carry 2 AA-11 Archers for self-defense. Its a nitpicky thing, though

>>17752839
>>17752839
Is it a Virgina or a Los Angles? If its a Los Angles its most likely an OLD Los Angles, unless we done goofed and we have a Seawolf off the coast.

oh man, a quest about MY PEOPLEEEEE.

OP: How many ethnic minorities do we have, and what is their history with the central goverment. Also, do we have a long democratic tradition, or are we prone to military rule producing psudeo democracy.

>>17753469
As a REAL LIVE DECENDANT OF AFRICANNSSS this is pretty much how things happen IRL, I'm not shocked to be honest.

Also OP, how big is the Dispora, I mean, how many people from our country are in England/France/EU/USA with higher degrees. If we have a high enough amount overseas, we can ask them for funding once we increase our stability, and get a built in base of people who know our culture without risking bringing in foreign CIA/KGB potential spies, and we can help bring prestige to our homeland.

Now that we have a list of weapons, can we stop talking about weapons? I mean fucks sake, it's taken up 3 or 4 threads now.

>>17753589

You know we're only arming up because our enemies are using gear they shouldn't have, right?

Rebels, not a hostile state, REBELS just tried to SCUD us. To protect our thorium reactors, delicious schools, hospitals, and new projects, we need to upgrade our armed forces. We needed to sortie our ENTIRE air force for this.

>>17753620
Yeah, so far this thread has basically been ordering weapons. Also, OP, does Liberia have any rebel groups? And what is happening with the Ivory Coast?

>>17753631
Are we compliant with NPT? I don't want to violate that or the African non nuclear zone treaty, and get a sudden case of spontantious scientist exploding syndrome.

Also, SCUDS? Those aren't that hard to locate if we have even a moderate airforce, though where the hell are they comming from. Any launcher should be huge and require coming from either the sea (unlikely) or one of the few central routes (most likely). To prevent this though, we should focus on attacking the rebels, condemning them to the UN, (not requesting peacekeepers just yet unless they are a large majority EU forces since they can keep their pants on), and figuring out why they are attacking us. I need to know more historical background to formulate a proper tactical response besides LAUNCH ALL WEAPONS :eternal war end: that Africa typical ends up in.

>>17753666

We have 23 pilots. Our military isn't big or modern enough to run constant patrols. We had India come in to build those thorium reactors, so they're safe.

And BECAUSE our military big or modern, we're buying up gear to make it so. Maybe if you new jackoffs actually read the threads, you'd know this.

>100 posts, just got home.
>catching up and posting. - EVEN BEFORE I GET MY SUPPER ANONS. I care!

>>17753683
I have been here since the first thread and I'm tired of all the weapons talk. I want to hear about how the researchers are doing, how the education system is progressing, what are people want or need, and how our economy is doing. I'm still not sure what economic plan we went with in the last thread.

>>17753691
Sorry. I love things that go boom.

>>17753701
It's certainly interesting and I think I might have even learned some shit. I understand the need for a larger, more modern military. It helps set us apart from the rest of the rabble on the continent. However, me and from what I've gathered several other people need a break from all the weapons talk. We need to focus on domestic issues, and maybe conquering Burkina Faso.

>>17753469

AFRICAN nation. Note the continent.

>>17753718
I'm thinking wars of conquest would be a fast way to get our shit stomped. We just want enough military to protect our natural resources, and maybe develop a bit of hegemony over our neighbors.

>>17753666

we are sort of fucked then long term.
We need to immediaty focus on producing a dedicated core of native engineers for our nuclear power plants, because being dependent on outside powers for our plants will leave us highly vulnerable
at best. What is the status of our Education system.

>>17753683
I am afraid of our nation becoming like the big guy next door (relativly speaking, Nigeria isn't that far )but if we can avoid their mistakes and make sure to eliminate corruption, or at least control it, we have a path to modernization by 2030-2040. Building a military will take years at the soonest, because we have to train everyone from ground zero, even with our foreign trainers, so we can't just BLOW OUR WAD on military just yet. How advanced our ports are will help determine how we can import goods and export products after all.

>>17753718
no
do we want AMERICAAA to have reason to show that its one submarine could bring us back to the stone age, or worse for BLACK OPS based in Nigeria (If I remember from threads 1 and 2 we are based in West Africa) or Kenya to launch and devastate us?

>>17753738
Conquering territory can get your shit stomped if you do it WRONG. You should never declare war on someone without a legitimate casus belli or are called to war due to casus foederis. IF we were to destabilize Burkina Faso and go in to bring peace to the region, like I suggested last thread, we wouldn't get our shit stomped. Granted, we couldn't go doing it to every single one of our neighbors, we'll need to do it over decades. It's what Ivory Coast was GOING to do but we stopped them.

>>17753744
Naval power is actually pretty important if we're to begin serious trading with Europe and the Americas.
>>17753760
Now might be a good time to cozy up to Russia and China.

>>17753691
If you've been here since the first thread then you should know that the military must be improved because of the military threats that we face.
Also that our educational and infrastructure programs are running well without us needlessly micromanaging them.

>>17753799
I know, we were dealing with superpower-backed rebels in the first three threads. We needed to up our military presence and modernize. We've been doing that. We've pretty much accomplished as much as we can within our price range. We don't need to needlessly micromanage our armed forces.

>>17753835
How's our domestic security apparatus?

JUNE 2016 - STATE REPORT
-------------------------------------------

-Our advisers have looked over the weapons >>17753510 list, and note that, while such things would be useful in the long run, we are stretched on cash with our military budget. Perhaps we should seek closer ties with Russia - or wait until our industry has developed further? It is a nice goal.

-Your people demand a Black Super Man TV series.

-Agriculture update: Another drought has hit, our irrigation systems have helped lessen the blow. We have enough stockpile to make up for our losses for now.

-Brush Fire! Dry conditions has started a large brush fire near our farms. While it is natural, necessary, and still in "wild" territory, it is dousing the area in thick smoke.

-Our specialists wish to found a University for Engineers, Medical Students, Agriculture Workers, Educators, and Pilots. In the long run this would produce more of these specialists - in the short term, it will cost us both money and slow projects related to these specialists.

-2nd Goldmine is fully producing at this point.

-Railway has made great progress (original map post shows this progress.)

-KFC has set up it's first store, it is an amazing success! Sales Taxes alone have greatly increased our city's revenue.

-NeoTekz confirms that this box COULD produce both oil and ammunition at a steady amount. However a "liquid safe" version would need to be made for the oil. They also suggest, if we have them research that, that they make 5% off all proceeds in any oil version.

>>17753869
Wait, do we have state-owned TV stations? Why do we have to be the ones making TV shows?

>>17753776
naval power
>my face when

If we go for naval power, I'd advise purchasing 2-3 Kilo class diesel submarines for coastal defense operations, along with several basic frigates. The big problem is finding the proper units to buy. From the Russian side I'd say we just need basic coastal boats along with our inhereted colonial fleet (assuming we made minor upgrades) should be good. The largest vessel we should be looking to get is something like a retired Alligator class since we are GLORIOUS COMRADES with the soviet union, along with Zubr class boats for escort.

Also, we should make sure we are in good with the African Union. That way we can have more international prestige.

wikipedia is awesome for the man who is too lazy to look up pictures on google images note goes here.

>>17753760
>>17753760
>>17753760

Yes, west Africa.

>>17753835
>We don't need to needlessly micromanage our armed forces.
And once these purchases go through, taking into consideration that they will be spread out so that our economy can handle the load, we won't need to.

Besides, all of these purchases are important, because each piece of bought weaponry shifts our political alliances one way or another. The weapons deal for a grenade launcher could give us more ties to Russia, or open up new economic ties to South Korea.

>>17753856
Domestic Security Apparatus? If that's what America's Homeland Security is then I think I know what your talking about. Our police force is being trained up by...It escapes me if it's Russia or the UN, and I know our fire department has received quite a lot of funding lately. We don't have a special department dedicated to preventing terrorism though. Our military is basically solely devoted to protecting our country so they serve as border patrol and do various other jobs that would be delegated to the powers of a dedicated domestic security division. I would rate it probably a six or seven out of ten.

>>17753869

For now, negotiate with Neotekz about some form of minority shareholding for our country, to share profits from inventions made in our country. Begin field-testing of the ammunition nanofax. Once we have proof of concept, begin marketing it.

Is there any way for us to get at the least, 4 fencers and a company of BTRs to start augmenting our forces, along with the small arms?

>>17753943
Think like the MVD. Profession yet terrifying.
>>17753907
I was thinking a merchant marine program and one or two 636 Kilos.

>>17753869
>shopping list
Wait until we can afford it.

>Black Super Man TV series
Hold a national competition for a good screenwriter and producer.

>Agriculture
Good, our irrigation system is doing what it's supposed to.
Nothing more to be done until the desalination plant is online.

>Brush Fire
Make sure that it is contained, however since it's necessary, let nature run its course.

>University
Take the production hit, and found the University. We need to think in the long-term.

>NeoTekz
Considering the potential profits? They can have the 5%. Just give us that technology.
Both the oil production version and the on-the-spot-bullet-factory version.

>Free Action
Expand fishing industry and fish farms. Make sure that sustainable fishing practices are followed.

>>17753869

>Black Super Man

Palm this off to our local broadcasters. Maybe they'll make one.

>Start University

YES. Provide the money needed to start it up. A educated workforce is a must for future developments

>NeoTekz

How much does it cost for one 'run'? If it is still more expensive than just purchasing, then there is no point to it yet.

In any case, get to patenting!

>>17753983

Seconding the university. See about either ensuring our firefighters have the ability to contain the blaze, or start talking to the UN/our allies about importing some fire crews if it starts heading toward our people.

I'm also for the university, not only does it have the stated benefits, but it also gives us a higher education establishment, the hallmark of a developed nation.

>>17754007
We need controlled burns every so often. I'd try to pick some brains from the Bureau of Land Management.
>>17753994
Thirding the university.
>>17753983
Let's try to keep our neighbors out of our Special Economic Zones. Sierra Leone has a problem with pirate fishing.

>>17753869
-Advisers
>We're/I'm still the supreme leader, if I say something you'd better damn well jump to it! Do not question me until AFTER we see what we can get out of this, now I want some calls made, and figures drawn up!

-TV Series
>see if some producers like the idea and let them to it. We'll personally watch the pilots and select our favorite.

-Brush Fire!
>mobilize some of the fire fighters to attempt to deal with the issue or at least lead it to an area where'd it die out quick

-University
>A fine idea.

-Magic Oil
> HAHAHAHAHA yes. 5% for you of course

>>17754035

I'm referring to stopping the fire if it threatens our people.

I honestly believe we should quietly deal with Black Superman, right now he is popular, how long until he is worshiped as a hero? How long before the populace wants him to have ACTUAL POWER? See a pattern here? It may sound paranoid but i've played Tropico enough times to know that the people will follow any retarded thing as long as they find it amusing / beneficial.

In short, arrange an accident for the insane fuck before he grows to be a _real_ thorn in our side.

Missed a few threads, have we done anything towards civil defence in case of nuclear attack? When I left we seemed to be slowly heading towards a nuclear conflict.

>>17754054
No, just get him in our pocket.

>>17753907

I think you should invest in some nice anti-ship missiles. If Mukia decides to park a carrier group off the coast and wreck your shit there isn't much you will be able to do about it, but having a stockpile of good anti-ship weaponry *might* be enough to make them think you are dangerous enough to make them consider a diplomatic sloution before they get to the ''wreck your shit'' stage. Of course you could also use them to fuck up any of your neighbour's navies should the need arise.

Mabye http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-35_Uran these? or something similar anyway.

>>17754054

Seconded.

>>17754054

That's tin-pot, not enlightened, thinking.

If anything, honor him for being a force for justice, and induct him into a special super-police (AKA Justice league). He tells us who and what he's fighting(Us meaning top gov/police officials), so we know what he's doing. He gets our protection, and he can call us in for the truly wierd shit. Then he's a part of our government, and if he encounters rebels or enemy spies, we can capture them, and get intel out of them.

>>17753982
>>17753907
Instead of a Kilo-class from Russia, perhaps we should see if Sweden is willing to make for us a Gotland-class?
It's small, and very quiet, and its endurance is fairly good.

>>17754054
No, that could end very badly for us if it gets botched. And while the ZIA has been improving by leaps and bounds, it's no equal to the FSB or the GRU just yet.

>>17753869
>>17753869
Fund the university as soon as possible.
>Black Superman TV
Well, we do need our own quirky special effects Television show that gets a modern reboot in 20 years. FUND IT.
>Neotech shit
Well, as our own CLEARLY NOT DUTCH SHELL company, sure, make sure they don't fuck up though and give them time for research.
>Brushfire
Watch, if it goes bad, call the African Union, or our Russian allies, and they can get a Be-200 from somewhere.

>>17754078

We currently have 4 Fulcrums, I'm assuming E variants.

We have access to Russian ordnance, and I specified that we will buy and stock EVERY weapons that they can use short of CRBN.

4 Fulcrums(Currently) allows for 16 AShMs in flight at once.

Also, Grand Leader, we don't need the whole list at once. Can we afford 4 Fencers, the small arms, and a company of BTRs?

>>17754080
This, but didn't he run last time we tried to contact him?

>>17754080

He is an insane vigilante running around dressed as SUPERMAN. All he is doing is taking advantage of the more idiotic of our population, like with the SCUD incident and how he claimed to hold the rocket in place so our Pilot, the TRUE Hero of the situation could shoot the rocket.

People believed him. Enlightened or not has nothing to do with it, he is a vigilante acting outside of the law and courting the more foolish of our citizens. For fuck's sake, you people wanted to use government money to build him a fucking STATUE.

>>17754078
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrahMos
Or this.

>>17754131

we 'let' him escape to continue his heroics. I suggest we coopt him into our current police force, as a special cop. He basically keeps doing what he's doing, but he has to let us know what's going on and why. In exchange, we support him with police and military forces if necessary, halls of justice, TV coverage, etc.

>>17754139
I'm thinking a decent sized balloon. He's earned it.

>>17754141

Fulcrums can't fire those. We'd need MKIs to fire a BrahMos. As it stands, we have the Kh-35E and the Kh-31A which should be sufficient until our economy is good enough to afford Flankers to support our expanded Fulcrum squadron(Once we buy those)

>>17754185
I was thinking commandeered cargo ships or Kilos.

>>17754167
I'm thinking that pilot should get a fucking statue though.

>>17754167


Earned it....how? Beating up a local crime boss? That's not a lot.

All you people are doing with congratulating him publicly is setting an example of him, a fucking Vigilante is basically a role model now. Acting outside of the law. Sure he hasn't seriously hurt anyone...that we know of, but he is setting an example for the other citizens, taking the law into his own hands.

Fuck for all we know he could actually be some clever ploy by the US to gain popular approval because Superman is an American superhero. Not saying he is, but stranger things have happened.

Also for some reason, this is the potential vibe I get, what with the BLACK SUPERMAN remarks and the old cheesy SFX that African movies will have

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04Cg-zpTdi4&feature=related something like this with .. ugh I'll hunt down better videos for you thread.

>>17754185
Shit, you know what we forgot on that big shopping list that I just remembered?

Fucking NV equipment and an Ex-Spetsnaz trainer for our spec-ops force.


Also, I don't think we should recognize Black Superman in any way. He is a bad role-model, because he is a vigilante in a society where the system works.

>>17754208
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mG1vIeETHc
You just brought back an old memory.

>>17754139
Maybe just give him a cell/satelite phone and a reserved phone line at the police dispacher?
That way we keep it mostly unofficial, but we can still get reports on crimes in progress from him, a way to contact him, and track him by watching where the phone is.

Perhaps remind him of the importance of the rule of law and such, continuing our official stance of not condoning vigilatism, but allowing us to keep him as a popular celebrity, giving us a tourism boost?

Maybe if we're feeling generous give him status as an Honorary deputy pollice officer or something, nothing major, just enough to keep people happy?

>>17754141
>>17754078
>>17754185
>>17754126


The beautifull thing about KH-35s is that they make a version that can be fired from helicopters and shore batteries, no fixed wing aircaft required, let's face it in a war with a western power your airforce is the first thing that will get wrecked, you don't want your Murika-detterent to be reliant on vunrable aircraft and infrastructure

>>17754259
I'm thinking a giant 'fro signal.

>>17754284
>>17754284
IF we have to go that route, we are hoping for a clean war, or for a submarine to sink something big before the attack boats finish us off. We are a third w developing nation, and America is like "Rocks fall, everyone dies" for us right now. We should focus on the clear and present dangers of MYSTERIOUS SCUD LAUNCHING GUYS right now.

>>17754326
Don't forget maintaining quarantine against infected refugees from Ghana and that one village in our country.

>>17754326

I'm focusing on rebels and our neighbours, hence a mecanised battalion first off, tanks later, and a far-superior air-force. Most of these countries have barely servicable air-defence, and we just proved we can SEAD the shit out of stuff with impunity. BUT, we only REALLY have 4 SEAD aircraft, which is why we need Fencers and more Fulcrums.

>>17754350
As long as we keep the quarantine up, we should be good.

JULY 2016 - STATE REPORT
------------------------------------------

-Black Superman has agreed to a public meeting, in front of the people, where he will be awarded a special position as a one-man government sponsored police fighter and not be part of any "police force."

-Brush Fire has gotten out of control and is burning into already desperate crops! Russia has sent a fire-fighting plane along with some AU support as well. They will arrive this month, but fires burn much faster than planes can traverse continents...

-NeoTekz accepts the deal and promises quiet results within 5 months to 12 months on the Oil. The Ammo Production box is ready to go. As for efficiency, you feed it any matter. It disassembles it and re-assembles it into the matter you need within this 14'' cube. It will not operate outside it. Theoretically speaking, you could fill it with sand and it would produce a box of ammunition... the exact process is guarded by them. They assure us it is safe.

-US response on the sub was that the crew needed fresh air, and reminds you international waters are, international.

-TV Producers have picked up. One set even claims to have the "real" black superman. They are currently out shooting a pilot of Superman stopping the brush fires. Audiences eagerly await.

-Russia has offered (again) to meet our further military needs in exchange for an open military alliance, and hidden research facility.

-Rebels! A rebel has surrendered to our armed forces. He claims they are armed with a mix of old-regime weapons and new American equipment via Libya. He is offering up more information in exchange for a pardon, and a high end rent/tax/utilities free apartment in the capital.

-Iran accuses us of supporting America because we would not supply them engineers for repairing their oil fields! Russia doesn't give a single fuck however.

>>17754393

>Bush Fires

Authorise the firefighters to make use of our hinds. If we get them to clear out areas around the fire, we can curtail it's spread. Assign more troops as needed.

>NeoTekz

It's useful but untest tech is highly dangerous. God. Lets be bloody careful with the thing.

>US response

Can't do anything about that. Let it go.

>Rebels

He will be provided a new identity and a normal government housing. Unless he can guarantee us high quality information. At which point we may upgrade his housing.

>>17754393

That's nice Iran, we don't give a fuck.

We don't want to paint a target on us, so don't bother going full Russian. See about buying 4 Fencers and small arms we need, at least. That'll free up 4 more fishbeds for training purposes.

I'm not sure what to do with the rebel. We obviously can't pardon him fully, and no matter what we can't trust the intel he gives us.

Begin trial deployment of the ammo box as a platoon-level resupply unit. Begin possible marketing to Israel, Russia, South Africa, and India. We might be able to begin trading with them in exchange for some of the hardware on our list.

Well, a military alliance would keep the Americans from fucking with us. What do you guys think?

>>17754478

Complete opposite. They've ALREADY been fucking with us, possibly. We don't want to get into anyone's bed any more than we are. We'll buy the hardware we need fair and square, not by becoming anyone's vassal state.

>>17754393
US Sub
>Oh, well next time ask to dock, have some ice cream!
NeoTekz
>Wonderful, let's practice with several different types of ammunition with sand and salt water.
Rebel
>IZA? Get us the rest of the info he has. Painfully. Maybe we can see what the nanobots can do with a single finger. would that be considered a form of suicide, shot by a bullet made from yourself? Grant it seems like it's a bad idea to try human testing with the nanobots.

>>17754466

>Fire fighting appendum

Get some of engineers to jurt rig some water tanks to the hinds being send to the hotspots. Those helicopters can carry quite alot so we can jury rig some water carrying equipment, we can dampen down the fire or even extinguish it.

>>17754393
Lol swim quals. FUTURE SELF is most likely trollfacing on the boat now.
also
>implying you really need air on a fast attack.


no russians. We are the Third Way damnit, we do not want to be a pawn in the NEO COLD WAR.

Also, see if we can get any nearby aid from anyone nearby. Help is help, and this fire is bad. The sooner the better. Perhaps France can rush something since they have a nearby base in Cote d'Ivore, or perhaps we can hire the Evergreen in a pinch.

Also, Libya? Give him half of what he wants, in exchange for supply route information. Then investigate. We don't give out shit for free, and let him know that if he is lying, he will be tried in our courts.

Tell Iran we will agree to talk at the OPEC meetings later on, and otherwise eh, Iran being Iran!

>>17754498

Agreed. See if the rooskies at either base can assist.

>>17754466
second, is anyone else having trouble with suptg?

Great, we are now directly responsible for the man running around dressed as Superman. Good going guys, now if he severely hurts someone it'll be on our heads.

>>17754393
>Black Superman
Dammit! Grr...alright, at least we can track him and force him to work within the system.

>Brush Fire
Throw our construction workers at the problem to create firebreaks, even if it slows down our infrastructure projects. Have local military engineers help out as well. Bring in any local fire trucks that are available to protect farms.

>Ammo-box
Begin quiet tests with it, to see what battlefield conditions it can handle. Then quietly begin equipping our Army with them.

>US Sub
Accept their excuse.

>Russian offer
Politely decline. Also, mention to them that the US is suspicious of us and has a sub watching us. Tell them that we should probably play things cool for a while until the US gets distracted.

>Rebels
The rebel will get a pardon, and a low-end free apartment. This is the new Republic of Zanzi: Everyone Works, Everyone Eats, Deal With It.

>Iran
Tell them politely but firmly that we are not allies of America, but we're not about to paint targets on ourselves for a mistake that they made.
Have our analysts, and diplomats, take a look at the Iran situation, and ask the US if they still want us to reject any deals with Iran.
If the answer is no, tell Iran we will help them in exchange for oil extraction technology. Then we can exploit our own oil fields.

>>17754393
Well, we seem to have hit the jackpot with this nanotech, how much power does this thing need to run?

Turning sand into ammo is no small feat, if we play this right we could end up a world superpower.

We're going to need to keep this quiet though, any nation would be fools to not try to get in on this, if news of this tech gets our, we could have a lot more rebels to deal with, possibly even an invasion.

>>17754515
We're a dictatorship, who cares if we get sued? Why is everyone so pissed to have a huge propaganda opportunity?

>>17754393
>Black Superman
Wunderbar, give him some kind of badge and a slap on the ass and send him on his way.

>Brush fire
Send in all of our firefighters! I doubt if we sent just the nearest department in they'd have enough men to get it under control.

>NeoTekz
Talk with about having them set up some sort of official branch of NeoTekz Inc. in our country. This is in preparation for a global press conference for the unveiling of the cure, and any further technological progress. Also, really stress the AIDS cure. Start selling the ammo boxes. Send the offer first to Russia, then to India, then to Israel, then to the rest of the world. Give the aforementioned three nations a 10% discount to earn us some good will.

>US Response.
Of course, why did we even ask? I think we should really start thinking about how jumpy we're coming off to the rest of the world. They'll think we have something to hide.

>TV producers.
Give them a small military guard. After all, rebels are still out and about.

>Russia
I'm really torn on this, I don't know if we should politely tell them we don't want to become a puppet of Russia or if we should agree partially to the deal.

>Rebels
Agree to his demands. Put him under heavy military guard immediately.

>Iran
Tell them, and the rest of the world we really just don't want to get involved in the international conflict they're engaged in.

>>17754470
I dont know about South Africa, they've been very unwilling to trade with us in the past so why give them this possible huge boon. the other countries though of course, great for relations already established.

>>17754393

>new American equipment via Libya.
Sorry are you saying that the Libyan government is equipping the rebels or that criminal elements within Libya are just hocking the army's equipment to whoever's paying?

>>17754544

It's very easy to LOSE our position as Head Honcho around here if we slip out of the good graces of the public, it's not about being sued, it's about being directly responsible for some faggot in spandex running around beating people up. At any point the people get tired of him, or he falls out of the good graces of the public, it's going to affect us because we are NOW Publicly sponsoring his actions.

Let's not even go on about how this will affect the younger generations.

I really don't think we should sell the nano-tech until we're sure it's safe, and we have at products at least 2 generations better.
That's the way everyone else does their export products, why should we be any different?

Man, this fire situation got me thinking... we need to modernize our fire brigade! By the way, what's the status of our road infrastructure? We may have to get some kind of offroad-capable fire engines.

>>17754554

Which is why we go to them. They're at least better than the rest of Africa, they have their own industries, and they're not some crackpot dictatorship. Anything to keep them up and running helps. And it looks good. It might also get us some of their sweet, sweet artillery (Which is recognised as some of the best on the planet.)

>>17754610

We're working on it. But training up more firefighters is like training pilots. Its not fast, especially wildfire brigades.

>>17754593
That looks unlikely. At the moment, he's just a huge propaganda hero of the type dictatorships go out of their way to find.

>>17754628

Most dictatorships would find someone that works within the law set by the dictator to make a hero out of, so the people would strive to be more like their "hero" following the dictator without question, all that jazz.

We just made a vigilante who works outside of our system of law a hero and basically gave him a badge to WORK OUTSIDE OUR SYSTEM OF LAW.

Do you really not see how this could negatively effect our growing population in any possible way?

As an African Despot recently taking over this country, we should treat it as if Poe's Law is -always- in full effect.

>>17754658
He agreed to cooperate with the government. We can always arrange a supervillain-y accident for him if he starts pissing us off.

>>17754658
We just monitor him at ALL TIMES if anything. You don't realize though the problem is things like this happen (Replace BLACK SUPERMAN with say Bishop) and then we can't do anything unless we CONTROL the power. We have to control these things without looking like murdering despots. (We may BE murdering despots, but dammit we will look like gentlemen!)

>>17754658

>Poe's Law

Fuck, Meant Murphy's Law.

But i'm sure you guys get the point.

>>17754679
I would prefer in be a lawsuit-filing despot. Look at Singapore.

>>17754679
Nobody can be truly monitored at all times, though. Such a thought is naïve.

>>17754689

=.=

We're making headways. Hopefully it won't be too long more.

>>17754703
Wait, are we actually killing political dissidents? I assumed we had just taken over the media and canceled elections.

>>17754711
Did we take over the media? I thought we gave our people freedom of speech or something.

>>17754711

Uh, was referring to the Singapore bit.

That my home.

>>17754393
If this box can basically start to reconfigure matter into other matter and give it the form/entropy we want, can't we use it (or several of it is it can only do one shape) to set up very,very,very cheap arms plants?

Sure a plane may be hard but small arms should be possible, just get a few trial versions, then get a contract for half we want/need and make the rest our selves!

Also forging, can't we start to forge some rubels/greenbacks with it or diamonds (just say we found a rich deposit).

1.put in stuff
2.be creative
3.????????
4.PROFIT!

>>17754699
>>17754699
We are a small third world country with access to plenty of people. It can be done.

Also, to help make AMERICA less suspicious of our intent, I propose we purchase some of their dual use technologies, is this a decent enough idea?

>>17754733

>dual use tech

What do you have in mind?

You know what else this little black box will be able to do too? Produce an infinite supply of fresh, clean water. Eventually we should be able to make it produce ANYTHING. We'd be able to fax people cakes or birthday presents or cartons of real ZANZIAN ice cream.

Let's talk to NeoTekz about getting one that makes water. Water, by the way, would be a great source of mass for this machine.

>>17754727
Oh. Well at least opposition parties have some seats in the senate now.

I realized that this thread is a good excuse to post some Photoshop job I did - that never really got used...so enjoy.

AUGUST 2016 - STATE REPORT
------------------------------------------

-Rebel info has been acquired, it seems that the CIA was at one time funding them until the C-130 incident. There were two separate groups, one was an elite brigade from the military (Incident 2), the other were disgruntled rebels who did not like who was put into power (1st fight in jungle region.) He claims Liberia is backing them now but the US has backed off entirely.

-Liberia(IC) is having rebel issues, ZIA informs us....

-Ghana Flu Incident has passed, says Ghana. WHO has closed the quarantine down in response to this, after verifying and distributing vaccinations to the populaces in need.

-University of Port Liberty has been founded officially. 10,000+ students have joined, even though the facilities set up can only support about 4,000 students. Many classes are standing room only. The University has requested more funds to purchase new land and build a proper- larger- facility.

-World News! Further protests in America, there has been calls of a rigged election.

-World News! Scotland has left the United Kingdom (Peacefully.) and is currently undergoing new government reformations.

-Elections for our own people is coming up January 2017... of course you are expected to win. There are no current opponents running against you. (Unless you count a rebel representative. Who everyone is ignoring.)

>>17754751
I'm thinking we start with the most valuable stuff by weight and ingredients. Gemstones, fissable materials (may get us bombed,) computer chips. I remember there's a kind of high explosive we can only produce a few atoms of, lets make some of that.

>Brush fire

Ok we need water bombers, buying them is expensive and time consuming, we should send out representitives and try and rent some untill the fires are under controll. Buying some should be a long term goal (can be rented out when not in use), but given the rebels and the scud-launchers this is not an immidiate priority.

People we should talk to for renting one: Canadians, Americans And Russians, they all posses the aircaft we need. Mabye we can use our milatary contracts with the Russians to convince them to lend them to use at a discounted price?

>>17754751

Shit, I completely forgot about water. I'm Canuckistanian, so, well, we're never without water.

>>17754744
Airliners and railroad units. Since We have a newly expanded railroad, we should purchase GE built trains, as they would be mostly constructed in the States, helping produce jobs, and Airliners for our small national airline, since I assume we have 1 direct flight to Atlanta or New Jersey since we aren't embargoed. 2-4 787s should do it I think.

>>17754781
We're near the ocean. Can't we just use sea water?

>>17754776

>Scotland leaves UK

>>17754801
salt fucks with every thing

>>17754776

Any progress with our ammo box talks with Israel, South Africa, Brazil, Russia, and India? Any way to get our small arms or some of our list without breaking the bank?

And for GODS SAKE, approve the university plan. Give them extra, too. Make sure that they have a nanotech class taught in conjunction with Neotekz so we can make the most of our facilities.

Keep an eye on Ghana and the IC. No action for that as of yet, besides increasing IC border patrols to keep rebels out. Any luck with aerial recon to find OUR problem children?

>>17754801
Ever heard the epression ''salt the earth''? we use saltwater to firefight we will make the land barren

>>17754776
>no room in the university
BUILD MORE UNIVERSITY.
>Liberia
Perhaps we can assist their goverment. We can make a stand against Rebels and gain an ally.
(Embarrass the SHIT out of their goverment, make them feel like assholes in front of the AU, fuck them for trying to destabilize us, but lets not start a internal conflict)

>World News
Who the hell is leading the protest in the states. Any figures, groups, any info that we can gather?

>>17754776
praise the peace full separation of the UK. And true non official channels let it be known we are willing to recognize them. For know how help, see what we can get but potential civilian collaboration in mining and industries seems feasible.

Sure we may be hypocrites but we are hypocrites with domestic power.

>>17754801

We have an small freshwater lake inland. We can use that should we get the firefighting planes.

>>University

Inform the administration to restrict their intake while still providing some funds for enlargement. If the intake is too big, the standard of education will suffer.

>>Liberia

Have the ZIA continue investigation. If they came provide solid proof, this may mean war.

>>17754776
>Scotland
Send a gift of some sort to the new Scottish (I assume) Prime Minister!

>University
Fund them. Give them a blank check to build whatever they need.

>Ghana Flu
Open our borders to tourist from Ghana, but at the border checkpoint have a brief health inspection.

>Liberia
Foment a rebellion, try to get the Ivory Coast freed from their oppressive yoke. I think this would be a good test for our Intelligence Agencies abilities. Let's do this as stealthily as possible. No names, no information at all. Just money and propaganda.

>Rebels
Go public with this information that Liberia is backing rebels in our country. (I realize I just suggested we back rebels in their country. An eye for an eye.)

>Protest in America
Give our condolences to the people of the US. It's always such a tragedy when a democracy goes bad.

>Election
When the time comes, we should declare a national holiday so as many people can vote as possible. I'm not worried in the slightest about losing.

>>17754837
It's what we do for fires over here. Freshwater is fucking expensive.
>>17754845
If we really wanted to be dicks, we could do like Libya and assassinate foreign dissidents.

>>17754776
>Libya connection
Until we can get some hard evidence, we can't throw accusations around. We'll need to increase our northern border patrols.

>Liberia(IC) rebels
Ha! Serves them right.
We're not going to pull their fat out of the fire unless they pay us.

>Ghana
Great! Resume normal economic activity.

>University
Give them what funds they need.

>Scotland
Open up tentative economic ventures with them. See what they want, and if we can offer it to them.

Second.

>>17754899
HA forgot to link the post I'm seconding.

This one: >>17754874

>>17754776

More things

>Rebel

Thats nice and all but where are the current rebel bases. I need locations, I need names.

How is the bush fire situation?

>Take part in the first two threads
Huh this is still going, let's sew how thi...WE HAVE FUCKING NANOTECH?!?

>>17754921
yep

>>17754921
You missed a lot.

Endorse the rebel candida for the lulz.

>>17754781
Both Russia and the AU are sending water bombers, but they take time to arrive. So that's already being taken care of.
Purchasing some of our own should be on our list of things to buy, perhaps after the University is completed (as in, not asking us for more money).

>>17754874
We don't have hard evidence of the Liberians funding rebels in our nation, just the words of one man.

We shouldn't throw accusations around, considering that it would make us look bad on the world stage and we have to consider who's backing Liberia.

>>17754776
>Liberian rebels
good to know, have the zia find out more about them
>University
give them the funds, plus a little extra to name a building after us
>America protests
we should keep a low profile when it comes to things involving america and her allies- don't want to become something the president can use to get the people to back off of him
>scotland
send them congratulations
>elections
I thought we had been elected president for life? we should be gracious when we win and congratulate our opponent assuming the Rebel rep is on the ballots, if he isn't on the ballot we should at least have some sort of opposition appear on the ballots so the elections don't look totally rigged

>>17754921
Ideal End: Singapore of Africa, small, technological focused nation with a highly advanced military to deal with threats both large and small. This is possible to do if we plan our research correctly.

>>17754930
Apparently so...

>>17754945
>elections
>I thought we had been elected president for life
Implying you were not...surprised your the first to catch this.

>>17754955
I'd look more to South Korea. Larger country, more issues.

weaponize the nanites to create grey goo and hold the world hostage, obviously

>>17755006
How large is our population? Don't we only have a few million?

>>17754994
Wait, 2016? Are the F-35, PAK FA, or J-20 out yet.

>>17754994
I kinda am too, I guess we're keeping elections to maintain the appearance of democracy?

>>17755033
PAK-FA and F-35 are both nearly out in 2012, they should be out. PAK-FA is expensive and should be our FLAGSHIP FIGHTER for later, unless China is willing to give us some Type 071 transport ships and some J-20s in exchange for some preference in oil exports.

What's to stop NeoTekz from just enlarging the box?

>>17755065
I honestly consider a 5th generation fighter wing to be the victory condition for a country. Period. Tell those eggheads to go crap out some diamonds or something so we can afford nicer toys.

>>17755090

You ever fucked with nanites before? No? Then you keep the shit small so if it fucks something horribly it doesn't fuck it on a large scale.

>>17755090

Technical limitations. It'll come with time.

>>17755099

We will NOT counterfeit stuff. Too many ways for it to go wrong. Instead, we should have Neotekz make, for us, a few boxes capable of producing raw materiel for our factories. (titanium, vanadium, steel, iridium, etc.)

That will make us self-sufficient, and allow more of our economic force to go into education, health care, defense, and infrastructure, instead of buying up raw material from other nations.

>>17755099
When we have that and a space program we are good to go. SPACEEEEE ZANZIANS.

Wait. Why don't we do this? We have engineers, a location by the Equator? Hell, we should fund a spaceport. We can make some money, and get the world pleased by offering a low cost way to launch rockets into space.

>>17755123
Actually, if the nanotech is capable of true transmutation, then we could start pumping out iridium and other rare-earths that are used in the electronics industry. Metals which are very valuable and can fund our expansion.

>>17755108
We are keeping shit small for the time being. However, there will always be the potential for things to go horribly wrong, and eventually we're going to start producing things larger than a magazine.

>>17755123
seconding, use it to make stuff cheaper but so we can hide/misinform them of the existence of our boxes and there capacities.

Maybe set up some secret underground production centers to shit out some new toys nobody knows about, the venom is in the sting as they say.

>>17755139
That's a damn good idea except for one problem; we don't have the tech to produce our own lift vehicles; the US, China and Russia use their own and the others (I presume) use US and Russian.

>>17755139
>Hell, we should fund a spaceport
Shit, that's right.
One of the projects that NeoTekz said that they could work on was nano-materials, so they could make the breakthrough that would make an orbital elevator possible.
The name of our nation would be forever carved in human history.

My money is on we end up ushering in the Robotic Vuvuzela Apocalypse.

>>17755123
What? If it can only change the arrangement of molecules, that doesn't do anything. I picked carbon because it can be made out of graphite at a profit of $5m or so a pound. If you don't want to counterfeit, nanotubes or medicine could be similarly profitable.
>>17755176
We could sell material to Virgin Galactic in exchange for full cooperation. Bam, our government gets a free space program that beats NASA.

>>17755176
>>17755006
we don't need our own space techs at this moment. We can be the WORLD SPACEPORT. Get all the Space companies and tell them they can use us to launch at cheaper rates than any spaceport worldwide can offer. We have our own in house Engineering teams... we will aim to get the contracts for things like SpaceX style companies. Perhaps a Virgin Galactic Port of Call.

>>17755176

We will soon. We can just hire some companies to give us advice about space-lifters, get some constructors in orbit, and make a space elevator and habitat for a couple hundred to a thousand Zanzian people.

>>17755065
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi/HAL_FGFA
Did somebody say 2016?

All this aside.

Has Neotekz actually given us anything at all? I mean, have we seen any DIRECT evidence and not just what they say happens?

For all we know they could be scamming us with metal boxes with stuff tossed inside.

>>17754776

>Liberian rebels

Find out what exactly the rebels want, before we choose to support them.

>University
Blank check provided.

>American protests
Find out more about the protests - what do they want, who's leading them

>free actions

Start producing some rare metals with the magic box. Export that shit. And use what we don't export for research. But first:

DO. NOT. EXPORT. THE BOX.

Also, regarding black superman: I'm just gonna copy and paste this idea I was just given from steam chat.

plus you can use black superman like they used captain america
well in the story at least , not IRL
he was like a mascot who was used to get people to support the military because he supported them
so you have black superman do the smae shit he does, get him to make some speeches and preform and shit saying how awesome your country is
slowly wean him off the actual crime fighting
til he's like a logo, basically

>>17755269
That would be so hilarious we might forget to kill them all.

We should probably be careful with what and how much we produce using our magical nanotech boxes.
That facility is supposed to be semi-secret I believe

New post shortly.

>>17755412

If the company doesn't want us exporting large amounts of rare metals, they'll probably tell us not to when we make the attempt.

>>17755412

Ideally, we'd place our meateriel boxes in our port/airport, in our customs ports. We'd then add a bunch of extra stuff to our imports.

>>17755446
I would seriously consider only using the produced materials in state run companies, preferably with military secrecy.

>>17755457
This. We let slip we've got this tech, every major power is going to rape us, legally or not.

>>17755457

The idea is that we use it to augment our production of military equipment and civil engineering stuff.

>>17755139
We could pitch a spaceport to the russians to ween them off baikonur in Kazakhstan. Offer free use in exchange for assistance in setting up a space programme. Would be ALOT better than starting our own rocket programme, since that can be seen as ICBM development very easily.

>>17755492
I would prefer a private company. More leverage that way.

And don't forget about upping our fire fighters! With the global warming and whatnot, we must be prepared for more wildfire in the future. Getting a dedicated fire fighting squad ready would be good in the long term.

>>17755492
We're still a developing country,
we only just started our university system
maybe we should put a space program off for a while
Eauking pace; I agree captcha we need to learn to pace ourselves

>>17755486
agreed, also we need to have them create the liquid friendly version of the box so that we can fabricate oil

>>17755527

I only want to increase our economic abilities with the nanofax, allowing us to spend less on imports, and more on domestic things, like civil services, infrastructure, and defense spending.

>>17755544
Fabricating oil...

Having control over that, wouldn't that give us control over the oil price? It could seriously change things up.

It would also make every developed country in the world extremely interested in us.

>>17755544
Honestly, that's low on my priorities. We already have oil, and it's only worth a few dollars per pound of material. Medicine, Microchips, Gemstones, nanotubes; any of that would be more worthwhile. Given the emphasis on the military, I'm thinking guided artillery and ballistic missile systems. Also,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octanitrocubane

>>17755573

We wouldn't go public with it, we'd only 'announce' more 'findings', and then augment our exports with nanofax'd oil, allowing us to slowly increase our income.

>>17755581

.... Ok THAT we need. Being construction of a series of test batches of ammunition with that as the HE filler instead of their current explosive, and see how it performs. If the results are worth the cost, set up factories to begin production for our army, and potential export to friendly nations.

>>17755620
All of that except for the export. Or the letting people know we have it. People shouldn't know until they find themselves 20% more dead than usual.

>>17755628

I said our FRIENDS. ie: brazil, possibly Israel, India, possibly Russia. And we'd need to both set up the facilities and actually see if its cost effective before we even begin production.

>>17755675

Israel, for one, would report right back to America. And regardless, even if they don't, America will take notice of this supposedly "too expensive to synthesize" material suddenly popping up around the world.

>>17755683

True.

I guess we should keep it in house, and simply augment our exports with nanofax'd material gradually.

We can also use it in our parts factory to effectively make "free" airframes for ourselves.

At this point I say we just let them keep experimenting in their mine. We have a bit of focus on us right now, so implementing anything from that super secret lab isn't really a sound choice.
Our ZIA cant keep up with the major intelligence agencies, so keeping people from snooping is going to be next to impossible. Our best bet then is to give them nothing to make them suspicious about

>>17755734

If they know what we're doing, they know that the box is a simple side step to the AIDS cure. Any country that would destroy us while we're doing that would be fucking dogpiled as soon as we let the international community know.

>>17755753

But the box is also a simple side step to unlimited ammunition, bombs, metals, oil, and, as the other anon mentioned a little while back, a matter disassembler.

>>17755753
This has been my point the whole time.

eventually, I want to control Burkina Faso, Ghana, and the Ivory Coast. Then I will be content. That will be enough land and a large enough population for us to become a world power. This conquest would have to span multiple regimes to be successful though, and that is where the chance for failure comes.

Seriously you guys, why are we thinking about making oil and ammunition with the nanotech?
We should focus first on a process which turns dirt into food, and then export shitloads of food for dirt cheap to starving countries in a fight against African Hunger.

>>17755771

Neotekz isn't working on that (yet). We'll have them continue work on an ungraded nanofax capable of using special feedstock (To prevent abuse) that will produce ammunition, ordnance, and firearms, in secret for us, and us alone, in exchange for expanded facilities and funding.

>>17755833
I think this is also a noble goal. We need to work on making it produce water and food. Then all those people that are farmers in our country will be able to take up jobs in the industrial sector.

>>17755853

Oh shit, an artificial industrial age.

Christ, that could speed up social development of our country by centuries.

>>17755833

The ammo box is a specific subset of the nanofax. We can make food dispensers, water dispensers, whatever is needed. I simply thought of the ammunition dispenser first because everyone was bitching about having to haul a whopping THREE AMMUNITION TYPES in our logistics train. That, and since we'll be fighting in the jungle, it'll allow dismounted infantry limited resupply.

SEPTEMBER 2016 - STATE REPORT
-------------------------------------------------------

-Wild Fire Issue has been contained. Thanks to your rapid response and request for help.

-Calling Liberia out on backing the rebels has gained a a negative remark from Liberia. US has no comments and are to busy with domestic issues.

-Testing of the "Magic Box" has yielded actual results... a solid block of granite, a solid block of gold, a box of bread, a box of ammunition. It seems to work.

-World News: US protests seem to be three different groups, one wanting the current president to step down, another wanting change of government as a whole, and another wanting equality (class warfare.) In addition to actual government position on staying in power backed by major corporations.

-Black Superman has announced he will be running in the elections AGAINST the President. Requesting President for Life be his co-runner. He has offered his own brand of Superman Icecream to anyone who votes for him.

-Scotland is interested in buying our oil.

-University has purchased land and begun construction of a large, modern complex!

-Our new factories have been completed by local corporations and are ready to begin producing parts for the nation and their own profit.

-Drought is still occurring, food is beginning to get hard to come by in this part of the world - and with recent flooding in the US Midwest, so has UN Food Programs found it hard to find food.

-Unidentified Object has been picked up on radar!

>>17755902

Get a pair of fishbeds to intercept the UFO.

- Begin field-testing of our nanofax to help relief efforts by producing food and water for affected populace, as well as using it to produce water for our farms.

- Sell to Scotland, they need it.

- I'm not sure what do about Superman.

>Magic Box
Focus on the bread
>Superman
I knew we should have had him killed. Try to convince him not to run.
>Scotland
Sell of course. No reason not to.
>University
Awesome
>Drought
Implement water conservation in the cities, focus on getting the water to the crops.

>>17755902
>>17755276
>>17755902
this can work out. IF we tactically step down, and let BLACK SUPERMAN serve as the "face" of the nation while we run things from the shadows, as an eternal, prime minister, we can produce a facade of democracy.

:Advice Putin:

Also, use our oil profits to buy food on the open markets, and propose a Food for Oil Program.

SCRAMBLE FIGHTERS. Intercept the UFO and ask it to declare what it is. I hope its not something too advanced after all.

>>17755902 -Scotland is interested in buying our oil

Wut? Did the north sea blow up while we were not paying attention.

Shot in the dark, but it may be worth thinking of seeing if we can get some offshore oil exploration going. Scotland can help with that.

Also kippers

>>17755902
HONORE BLACK SUPERMAN!

Right, gentlemen. We need to start getting dirty; our primary concern domestically is how to safely neutralise Black Superman without damaging our reputation with the people.

Secondly try to secure some food supplies from Brazil and India in exchange for trade/oil/whatever. DON'T GIVE THE BOX AWAY.

Intercept the UFO with our standard flying squad; I'll leave the details up to aviatorfag.

>>17755902
>Food
Well, time to do some field test. Start pumping out bread from our magic box and distributing it to our people. Obviously it's a little risky but I think it's safe.

>Unidentified object
Well, scramble jets to try to get eyes on the object.

>Scotland
We'll gladly sell them oil, why wouldn't we want more money?

>University
When it is finished, let's have El Presidente tour the facility and sit in on a few classes, maybe teach a class in business since he did graduate with a business degree.

>Black Superman
Welcome the competition but decline his request to run as his vice-presidente. Start campaigning in the major cities first, and then the rural regions. Run one hell of an intense campaign, but make it a fair campaign. No bribing voters.

>Liberia
Well give them a negative remark right back!

>Wild Fire
Congratulate our fire fighters.
>>17755879
EXACTLY. We need to be thinking long-term, altruistic goals. Once we build up enough good will we become invincible.

>>17755980
Scotland and UK are not seeing eye to eye, and North Sea is rather heavily operated by not-scottish-rigs...

Also, we already have full rigs out to sea built by russians and partly operated by our own people. Unless you mean further exploration.

>>17756005

Oh shit.

Have neotekz look into room-temperature superconductors and crystal capacitors. If we can get those, we should be able to field combat-capable lasers, at lesat on aircraft, giving us a MASSIVE edge.

>>17756005

yes, was meaning further exploration.

Actually fair point, how are our relations with the UK? Judging from the whole shakeup with with independence, they may be selling some nearly new equipment (especially MBT's and AFV's)

That or we could hire some out of work Scottish troops for training purposes (large proportion of the para's and other "elite" units are Scottish)

>Scotland
Course we'll sell the oil, they're not EU yet, Russia can't really gripe
>Drought
We should probably get some more desalinization units online, and see if we can get some more efficient agriculture. Someone suggested cultivating algea last thread to make cheap, poor quality foodstuffs, maybe look into that.
>Black Superman
Any chance of having him assassinated the replaced with an impostor?

>>17755902
Black Superman dies bravely defending the president, his dying words are that the current president is a great leader. There are no witnesses except the president of his death.

Shit's gonna hit the fan soon in regards to Liberia. Increase patrols in our waters (Do we have a navy?)

Maybe approach Scotland about opening ties to Russia through us? They're going to need international friends.

>>17756191

We've got 10 Svetlyaks.

recommend our parts factory begins, with nanofax assistance(in secret) Fulcrums. At least 4. We'll need them.

>>17756204

excellent idea, Scotland is going to have a real hard time getting freinds. Most of the countries in the EU will be competitors in one way or another.

That, and they will be on the rest of the UK's shit list for awhile.

>>17756262

I figured it would give us a new friend and some good karma with Russia

>Black Superman
Did we ever run a background check and find out who he is? And if so does he meet the requirements to run for President-For-Life?... Wait a minute what the hell is going on here? We're a goddam Dictator with a capital D! why are their election even going on?

>Black Superman
Lets see if we can discredit him, faked brutality videos leaked out somehow?
>Scotland
Lets put them in contact with Russia. Having them tied to russia will help tie down the UK's ability to push back at our allies if things get bad.

>>17756332

>make sure we stay in the loop however. It will help get us our own allies and will help Scotland through any transition.

need sleep, exhausted - further posts tomorrow

guys you don't understand, i think Black Super man wants to be President of the US... i support this.

>>17757051

That actually gives us an out. Ask him if he'd be willing to go to the US to help them as he's helped us. We have no right to keep him in our land, so he should strike out and help the whole world.

This also takes him out of the election.

>>17756332
>Black Superman
Before we do anything illegal, let's try the legal side of thing first. And will some one explain why we're have a election in the first place?
>>17757051
You know what i support him to, If your right.

>>17757051
Eh, he wouldn't be able to (unless he manage to show that he's US born or something).

Also, I wouldn't be so sure about throwing away Russia's alliance offer. It will fix our army to a better standard and we will be a very unlikely target for anyone that doesn't want to take a fight with Russia. Remember, we're not in the Cold War anymore, the USA seems to be in a bit of trouble and the EU isn't completely united yet. China is expanding in east Africa, but mostly economically and binding their economy to them, something we don't want. The possibility of having a military alliance only (with trade relations as well) is about as a good deal we can get.

A few thoughts:

-The NeoTekz Box: Our "findings" hit dead ends... It's dropped, dead end, doesn't work, just some Nigerian scam it turns out... We produce shit in secret and in small amounts so as to not drawn suspicion.

-Black Superman: Do we know the identity of this guy or is he some random skinny running around in tights? If it has to go illegal and we off him, we create and serve for free a Black Superman ice cream flavor.

-Armed Forces: I feel bad for starting the focus on armed forces when I brought up the STAR. I say we focus on what we can sustain and gets us best bang-for-our-buck, both fiscally and politically; we shouldn't be a puppet.

-University: We have 10k ppl on a campus that can support 4k... What kind of screening process was there to get into the university? Entrance exams or putting your name on a list? For all we know, we could have 6k worth of turd factories and produce no positive results.

-Liberia: Increase border and air patrols. Fishbeds and Helo/ST patrols both.

WE ARE PRESIDENT FOR LIFE! ELECTIONS ARE ILEGITIMATE FUN THE POPULATION CAN HAVE.

PUT MORE JOKE CHARACTERS IN THE RUN!
LIKE ... MORGAN FREEMAN, BLACK SUPERMAN, NELSON MANDELA, CANIBAL CLOWN... ETC.
THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRACY AND THIS IS A JOKE.

>>17755902
>Wild Fire
Publically commend the firefighters and workers who contained the fire, and thank the nations who contributed their time and equipment.
Send their leaders a tub of Zanzian ice cream.

>Liberia
I told you guys we shouldn't have thrown accusations around.
Step up border patrols along the Liberia(IC)-Zanzi border.

>Nanofax
Produce a few of these Magic Boxes, place them at our gold mines to increase gold production without drawing suspicion. Do not say anything about the nano-assembler; no public announcements, no telling anyone about them.
Make a small factory to construct more of these.

>Black Superman
If we can catch him, tell him that he must submit to a background check to confirm elegibility in the elections.

>Scotland
Agree, see if we can come to an acceptable deal.

>drought
Have "Magic Boxes" produce food and begin distribution in our country. Pass it off as emergency reserves that we had kept for this kind of eventuality.

>UFO
Have our Flankers intercept it!

I'm sceptical to Scotland-Zanzia-Russia ties. Sure, Scotland may not be UK's favorites, but I doubt they'll want to cut with Europe and get into bed with Russia. Either they'll join the EU or they'll be in some kind of totally-not-EU-we-swear relationship somilar to Norway. For that matter I think they'll be more keen to grow closer to Scandinavia than some African banana republic.

Also, not to complain OP/GM, but some 80% of UK's oil fields are in the Scottish territorial or economic waters and go through Aberdeen for processing. While the companies operating there may not be scottish, I doubt they have the same generous terms that were in effect in Libya pre-gaddaffi. This would mean thet they would get tax revenues from it (and are able to nationalise) and buying their 'own' oil would probably be cheaper and easier than importing it from a west african no-body.