>>17791945
Please answer the question about whether NeoTekz can even do weapons and superconductor research.
Aviationfag and others have assumed that NeoTekz is a huge research giant that can handle any kind of research, and I didn't see any of your posts corroborate that.

>>17791974
Yes they can.

NOVEMBER 2017 - STATE REPORT
---------------------------------------------------

-Wildfire 4 and 5 have begun elsewhere. Our fire fighters are dealing with them as best they can, 3 is still priority due to farm proximity.

-NeoTekz on other biology problems: all solveable, they just need to hand research each one and then apply nanites to them. Or get a scan of the perfect human being's health situation and have nanites fix people to be healthy as the blueprint.

-NeoTekz on weapons - easy. It is only a hop, skip, and a jump....since they can re-arrange matter into whatever is needed at the time, prototyping is rapid. Theoretically they could print off a true size US city with enough matter, time, and blueprints. Obviously that is much harder, but an extreme example.

-Ex-KGB guy on the US Freighter situation: Laws as they stand state that any plane-clothed soldier still operating in a military situation is considered a saboteur/spy. The US will never openly admit or own up to this entire incident publicly. Those soldiers no longer exist to them on the world stage..spec ops may still be a problem. As such though we could seize the equipment for ourselves too.

-Lead Box has been opened on live television. Inside is liquid nitrogen temperatures, and complex hardware. It is not a weapon it seems. NeoTekz officials recognized it as a quantum computer, rather advanced... Ex-KGB guy says the US may just want this back and advises high security, or, taking it out of the nation, publicly at least.

-Soldiers and crew are in prison at this time, in fair, reasonable conditions. Their lawyers have been speaking with them.

-World News! Russian Fleet moves back into Artic Seas, to reclaim the territory again. US/NATO fleet currently near Scotland.

-World News! Zanzian Wonder Cure #1 topic in world at this time.

>>17792186

- Begin deploying neotekz and Zanzian specialists with cure boxes to both our country and the rest of Africa. Invite WHO reps into our capital for a demonstration, they can even bring friends.

- Quantum Computer: Have a special, secret cavern dug out for research on the device. The US wants it? They've gotta pay for it.

- Weapons research: Have Neotekz begin prototyping laser systems for our Fulcrums and Fishbeds, as well as bround-based defense turrets, along with a suitable tank-based railgun. Being field trials in absolute secrecy underground with our SF and TRUSTED personnel. Start putting out the word we're looking for engineers with military design experience, both naval and ground.

>>17792235
I would just give them their thing back. We don't want to be aligned wrong when WW3 starts up.

>>17792303

Why? The US funded rebels in our nation, killed our police and soldiers, and is trying to play innocent about it. What POSSIBLE reason do we have to give them back their tech?

>>17792235
>>17792324

Bet we can copy that shit in a short notice.
Why don't we have NeoTekz halt all other projects and focus on quantum computer?

>>17792324
Well, it looks like shit is about to hit the fan. We already have all the tech we need, and maybe the favor will keep us from being bombed and/or occupied. I'd consider just debriefing the prisoners as much as possible, granting a diplomatic pardon and copying the tech for future use.

>>17792362

I think the US will to too occupied with the Chicoms and Russians to deal with us in any capacity we can't handle. TBH, for maximum trolltential, we can just have Neotekz fab a copy of the QC, and then insert undetectable uplinks into it and a backdoor so we can see EVERYTHING on it. And we keep the original

>>17792386
How about we just do that, and give it back? The Americans can't complain without looking like utter pricks.

>>17792303
We are aligned right. As the US have admitted that that thing is not theirs, have they not? When it is not theirs, we can do as we please.

Russia is our brah. Africa will be our bitch since we can keep them on a tight leash with the AIDS cure.
KING of the AU.

>>17792355
Because having no guns puts us out of a country really fast.

>FREE ACTION
Declare marked area as military hazard zone. Move the computer to the labs there and carefully dissect it.

>>17792402
The Americans also have stated that it isnt theirs, so we can nail them on technicalities. What isn't theirs they cannot have.

>>17792186

>Wildfires
Have the Super Tucano's and our PMC start doing more patrols, as well as increasing police patrols in our bushlands.
I don't think these are natural fires.

>NeoTekz
Get to work on Ghana Flu 2.0. It's a little too close for comfort.

>Nano Weapons
Concentrate on laser CIWS and railguns for light ships and tanks. Maybe also Air Defense versions of each, as well. They are to be given whatever financial resources they need to prepare these defense systems and the associated production capability.

>US Freighter
All of their stuff stays locked up as evidence.

>Quantum Computer
Have NeoTekz scan it and attmept to copy it via nanofax.
If we can copy it, return it quietly to the US, if they'll get off our back.

>>17792413

The Laser CIWS is essentially an AA laser, depending on its effective range. I did specify at least one laser had to be effective to 20km.

>>17792362
I second this

>>17792235
Seconded. I want that quantum computer if no one is claiming it. The US is acting clueless.

Perhaps we make the quantum computer available to all nations at a ZONES facility in accordance with our Open Source philosophy? An internationally-known research space wouldn't be a bad thing, and we wouldn't look greedy or secretive.

List of stuff to be voted on from last thread:

via ZONES program (in development):
- Civilian self-defense education
- Civilian national security tip network
- Low-cost, non-industrial agriculture training

Meeting with NeoTeks
- NeoTeks community/city of brilliance/New Alexandria
- Energy circle [Production/waste as fuel for other projects]
- Security clearance/Loyalty/Philosophy-reinforcing process


Questions:
How much energy are we creatingvs using? From what sources (nuc, wind, dams, etc)?

Have we in any way publicly stated that our new tech/medicine is based on nanotech?
How do we want to handle questions about the origin of the AIDS box?

What is our internet infrastructure like at the moment?
Where will we put our first ZONES program? I think locating it within travel distance of the wild fire that hit our farms could be good in order to teach firefighting tactics to the locals and rebuild our local food supply via sustainable farming.

>>17792186

>Fires

Air patrols over areas susceptible to more fires. These probably aren't natural.

>NeoTekz

Give them funding to do what aviationfag wants them to do.

>Quantum Computer

Russia, NeoTekz, and us take turns trying to decipher it.

>>17792456
I just realized that ZONES is basically Pirate Party all the time everywhere.

>>17792527
Awesome, isn't it?

>>17792527

What's pirate party?

>>17792586

http://www.piratenpartei.de

>>17792586
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_party

>>17792539
Hmmmm... I'm not certain. Some things they say are just plain dangerous. I agree that it is needed at this moment, but I expect them to fail most of their goals but archieve some difference in the end of it all. I am pretty OK with that.

After all, when I'm an engineer one day and I build something totally rad then I want a slice of that pie, not just for everyone to use stuff like they own it.

>>17792601
>german page
eeeeeeh.
Go for this video. Ignore the weed though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b826IeOpa8k

Hmmm..

>Weapons and the Quantum Computer

Theres a good way to get everything. Have our cake and eat it.

I want NeoTekz crew to scan a copy of everything we have in their inventory. Vehicles, weapons systems and the Quantum Computer.

They can reproduce anything, after all. Once we have all the copies, we can publicly destroy the weapon systems.

Regarding the Computer, contact the US via secure channels. Privately offer to return the computer once our pirating is complete and we're sure that our copy is working pretty well.

>US Servicemen trial
Do it properly and fairly with full media coverage. The sentencing for weapon smuggling should be pretty obvious and since their government has abandoned them, I don't think they have much hope.

The sentence should likely be lifetime imprisonment and reparations to the families of the killed servicemen.

I'm considering what happens if once the sentence is passed (a week or so), that we give a presidential pardon to the men and extradite them, barring them entry to our country from then on. Internationally, we'll be loved and the US citizens will love us for it but back home... it'll be another story.

Thoughts on the last one, you people?

>>17792642
It all comes down to culture. You can't just change the law to make everything public access and expect a lasting positive turnout. You have to change the way people think - and alter their motivations.

If people continue to associate money with success, and thereby with happiness, we'll never get anywhere. In that situation, a handful of open-source projects is ideal for hobbyist engagement and development.

But if you can show people the results of cooperation - that happiness comes from certain types of relationships and sharing - then you can see lasting, exponential growth.

It's all about buying into the philosophy, and enforcing it. You have to be able to remove people from the system and let like-minded groups migrate. That's why decisions should always be done at the local/small level. ZONES are a natural place for that kind of discussion and social enforcement to happen.

This all comes back to the discussion about post-crisis power. When money and energy aren't the gigantic factors they are today, social currencies (cooperation, peace of mind, knowledge, respect) will become key again. Our nation should make those philosophies a public priority Now, since we know what the world could soon look like.

>>17792769
I agree with your first thingie but on the second point I am not so sure. Those men killed our people but they also were doing what they felt was right and proper, basically defending their own nations interests.

I think it is too early to pass judgement. The US seem kinda weird on this. There have to be like 50 marines under arrest now, some of them commanding officers. They cannot just make those people vanish from their lists. Those people still have families and relatives.

Let's do this in a public relations move. I have an idea for that. We take pictures of all the soldiers we have in custody and give them to all the reporters we have around, along with their personal information (since captured soldiers give name, rank and service number, right?). When they send it back home and broadcast that shit then the public will flip its shit because all those fathers and mothers and wives will speak up and say "BUT THAT'S MY SON/HUSBAND/WHATEVER" and the government will have a huge stack of problems in its inbox because the people are going crazy over the denial of those soldiers.

>>17792769
Unless the UN has not been watching our every move since we brought everyone to the scene of the crime, our best move is to make the computer and weapons the subject of an international agreement. Destroying the weapons sounds smart, and making the computer an internationally available resource makes us world heroes again.

If we would both either or both of those things at risk by taking them to a secret base for even a short period of time, then we shouldn't.

With how our nanotech can grow and the rapid education growth we should expect from the ZONES project, getting our hands on a private quantum computer research team (much less a computer) should be attainable in the not-too-distant future.

Plus, a collaborative effort would be best for understanding the thing.

The soldiers should also be dealt with at an international body. The more we show ourselves to be cooperators now, the easier it will be to sell our national image when we reveal just how much power we actually have.

>>17792900

Considering that we basically broadcast it to the world and the BBC probably got in the act (Because, why not?) the news is everywhere unless the censored ALL news channels stateside.

I'm very curious what the public opinion in the US is about this case. Great Leader, update on the situation in the US, public opinion and all that?

>>17792900
OH GOD THIS THE BUTTHURT WILL BE DELICOUS

If we make a copy of the quantum computer and then send the americans copy back and then patent it once the original is on its way back to America we could troll America even more.

DECEMBER 2017 - STATE REPORT
-----------------------------------------------------

-NeoTekz has duplicated the quantum computer and made back-doors, after extensive scanning. Their new focus will be lasers. They have also made scans of the American Equipment.

-US has wished for its equipment back, claiming now that pirates had taken the ship. They also want their computer back - and are very unhappy to know that the world now knows they have functional QCs.

-Our factories producing Su and MiG parts and planes are under full swing now. We can now begin making our own fighters locally in an efficient rate.

-Trial is on-going. No public cry from America for any of the men, yet. (Family)

-Super-Ts spotted men setting a new wild fire near Liberian border!

-University is operating at full capacity now!

-AIDs treatment is underway in Africa.

-Russia has requested buying a copy of your AIDs cure machine... and are willing to negotiate.

-ZIA has found another corrupt government official, he has shot himself in the head while leaning over a balcony, fell 10 stories, hit the pavement. A car ran him over. His ring finger is currently missing after a dog ran off with it. Ex-KGB guy says that this was an unfortunate accident because ZIA agents are still learning how to be subtle.

>>17793047
>-Super-Ts spotted men setting a new wild fire near Liberian border!
I would have the ZIA snoop around. We need some intel here.

>-ZIA has found another corrupt government official, he has shot himself in the head while leaning over a balcony, fell 10 stories, hit the pavement. A car ran him over. His ring finger is currently missing after a dog ran off with it. Ex-KGB guy says that this was an unfortunate accident because ZIA agents are still learning how to be subtle.

lol

>4chan hates my post and I cannot be arsed to retype and check everything.

Post here:
http://pastebin.com/yHW1AtFt

>>17793097
I'm honestly amazing this hasn't been blanked yet. /tg/ is apparently a god-tier board.

>>17793047

>QCs

That's cool. Send the blueprints to the EU and RUssia, in an attempt to curry favor. Then give the American one back.

The missiles, though, I don't know if we should give back.

>Men setting fires

Keep eyes on them, load up a helicopter with some spec ops guys, and hunt them down.

>Russia

I don't know, guys. This is up to you. Maybe we agree to give them the QC, and call it even? Instead of the AIDs cure?

>>17793047

>NeoTekz
I love our boys. Express our great satisfaction at a job well done.

>US
Make a big public show of handing over the 'stolen' equipment to US

>Trial
How is the media coverage of the trial?

>Russia
I guess they want to research its tech? I'm a little conflicted. Perhaps cite business agreements with the company, that at the moment, we can only lease, not sell.

>>17793047
>zoggin ZIA
dose niggas
i luv'um

>Russia
Tell them (and everyone else who asks) that the only place where the machines will be set up...
...are Zanzian Embassies. The Zanzian wonder will never be used outside Zanzian ground. There are no embassies in Russia? Well jeez, wonder what you could do...

>America
Send them (CNN and Fox News, together with a few boulevard tabloid rags) a full list of the captured marines with details and everything. Ask them "Are these those pirates you were talking about?"
Also give them their gear back. Big public coverage.

>>17793047
>US wants their toys back
Sorry America, but all of this stuff is EVIDENCE in an ongoing trial. Of course you can have it back once the trial is over, but not before. Wouldn't want a miscarriage of justice, would you?

>Wildfires
We must find and stop these men. Intensify patrols, national alert that all citizens should be on the lookout for these men.

>Russia and the cure tank
They're going to reverse engineer it. Try to delay them for now. We can't let this tech get out of our hands just yet.

>ZIA needs to be subtle
Tell the ZIA to work on it.

>>17792456
Again I refer to my earlier post. If it's possible, I want civilian firefighting and a national security tip education program in place. I don't know how far/strong our internet is, though.

>>17793097
I don't see offering to bring the international community in on decisions as meaning that they can step on our toes in the future. Voluntary cooperation isn't relinquishing of sovereignty - it's exercising it.


Again I highlight that we need to decide how we're going to talk about our AIDS box - do we say it's nanotech or not? To whom?

>>17793173
Love the embassy idea.

>>17793047

>Wildfires

Did we purchase the firefighting planes in previous rounds of purchasing? If we have not, about time we did so. Look into purchasing a few.

>>17793194

Bringing in the international community on things that affect them is good practice and should be done.

However this is a legal trial of foreign nationals for crimes committed on Zanzi soil. The international community has no reason or need to weigh in on the debate considering that they have neither harmed citizens of other countries, nor are they terrorist.

>-US has wished for its equipment back, claiming >now that pirates had taken the ship. They also want >their computer back - and are very unhappy to know >that the world now knows they have functional QCs.
OK, I'm feeling sorry for them now. Have who ever's in contact with them help them make a believable story, But make us both look good in it.

>-Our factories producing Su and MiG parts and >planes are under full swing now. We can now begin >making our own fighters locally in an efficient rate.
See if Ghana want to buy any spare parts.

>-Trial is on-going. No public cry from America for any >of the men, yet. (Family)
Let them contact their family if they wish.

>-Super-Ts spotted men setting a new wild fire near >Liberian border!
Send in want ever close and the air mobile troops.

>-AIDS treatment is underway in Africa.
How's everyone reactioning?

>-Russia has requested buying a copy of your AIDS >cure machine... and are willing to negotiate.
Ask what they are offering, But say we can set up some now that operated by us in Russia for now.

>-ZIA has found another corrupt government official,
What was he doing?

>>17793191
Seconding the keeping it as evidence until the trials are over, then returning it to the us if they give us proof it's theirs.

>>17793047
>Russia AIDS deal
Here is your chance to get some bleeding edge air frames to mount on top of our deathlazers aviationfag, Sukhoi t-50 maybe? Not a jet expert so maybe there is something more usefull.

Perhaps a Nuclear Sub? A new Awacs?

I'm of the opinion that we treat this Aids cure as a blank check.

>US marines and QC
We can now give them back the super computer as an act of good faith, or perhaps we could hold both the computer and the marines until we have promises that no further meddling will go on in our country, and that they will openly trade with us in the future.

No one up for AIDS-curing embassies everywhere?

I mean, think of the possibilities. Free propaganda! Publicity coming out of our ears! A direct link to the media in almost every place on this earth.

In other words, the global outlook on Zanzian domination is thus:
"You don't need to bite the pillow, I've got lots of lube ready."

>>17793445

I really really like it, too.

>>17793445
SO MANY TIMES THIS!

>>17793445
I like this too.

>>17793381
But let them send some inspector, so they can keep and eye on there gear.

>>17793445
This is a good idea a couple months down the line, however we would be throwing away a chance to use it as leverage to get lots of hardware out of russia/ get the US off our backs...

>>17793559
They'll never be off our backs. US is persistent and they've been sponsoring rebels for god knows how long now.

Better make peace with their public and then they cannot just kick off a war that easy.

>>17793397
At risk of pissing off Aviationfag, some ideas.

Sukkoi FGFT, export version of the PAK FA. Awesome.

Kilo 636, a stealth sub, able to fuck up a carrier battle group. Russia already exports these for fairly cheap.

Brahmos missiles, to be launched from land or from the Kilos. Also capable of fucking up a CBG.

At risk of repeating myself, XM8 or AR18, if we expand our army.

This should keep us pretty secure until nanite-based weapons because viable.

>>17793643
Don't forget the licenses to produce them as need.

>>17793643
We already have TAR-21s, what do we need the XM-8 for?

JANUARY 2018 - STATE REPORT
-----------------------------------------------------

-Black Superman has been found dead, seemingly. Public mourning from his believers is wide spread, but the majority of people will simply miss someone they have come, over the years, to cherish as a national icon. TV Producers have their shows ready for airing now as well, after pre-shooting an entire season over the past two years. (It takes a while to learn how to do this shit, Zanzians!)

-US equipment has been returned to their "rightful owner." No further communications about this has been pressed.

-Russia will accept an Embassy. Nearly every single EU nation wants an Embassy. All of Africa wants Embassies. India wants it as well. South American nations have sent polite offers for Embassies to be set up. All at everyone's expense. Except the US.

-Trial is ongoing. No family members have come forward for these Mar--....--It seems last night the Marines escaped their prison facility and are now missing. What shall we do sir? (LIVE ACTION MODE - Will post every 10-30 minutes. This is within month.)

>>17793704
Well, we got those for an army of maybe 8,000. We may well have to arm hundreds of thousands, and there are better options for doing that. The Tavor is fine, it's just really expensive (about $4200 apiece).

>>17793643
G36 was here, XM8 is my bad experimental murrican ripoff.

G3 was here, G36 is my yuppie grandson who's lost all meaning in life.

GET THAT G3
ITS LIKE KALASHNIKOV BUT GERMAN
Pic related, Bundeswehr vets equpped with G3 in Afghanistan.

>Marines have escaped
Get the ZIA to hunt their asses down. Don't kill them, but do add Trying to escape to the charges.

>>17793718

>Escape

Goddamnit, I was expecting something like this.

Where is the prison facility located? Is it in a city or outside?

Begin setting up roadblocks, launch all copters and get our Police K9 unit on the job. Pathfinders and spec ops are to sortie as well.

Security at all entry points to our country are now on high alert. Do not forget to send people into the sewers to check.

>>17793770
In Port Liberty. There is currently a manhunt ongoing.

>>17793718
As much as I would like to "let" the americans go free... well, doing so is a sign of weakness. Send out the Pathfinder corps and other army elements after them,

>>17793739
AR18 is here, G36 is my shitty German knockoff, and XM8 is a shitty German knockoff repackaged as a trout to try and resell to America with no advantage over existing 5.56mm systems. gb2/k/faggot, nobody wants your HK bullshit.

>>17793780

The port is now closed.

I want every patrol craft we have patrolling the coastline.

The pesky sub is probably going to attempt a covert exfil.

Do we have any sonar bouys we can drop?

>>17793770
This.

If all the prisoners have escaped then that probably means US meddling, this means there may be some sort of pick up by air. Have every single patrol jet up in the air scour the area around the prison.

>>17793739
Look, I love the G3, but a combat load of 7.62 is only 100 rounds. that's terrible. Also, XM8 is cheaper ($800 a unit vs. $1500) and lighter.
>>17793791
Stamped metal is heavy. DI is unreliable. Now don't spread cancer from /k/.

>>17793780
They might try to steal the boat to swim out of our borders and be picked up by US!!!

>>17793817
basically what I am saying is to be on the lookout. This seems one of the best ways to run away.

>>17793780
Rally the tribals, they know the terrain like the back of their hand. They shall secure the city perimeter and watch for all fleeing personell.

Scramble all helicopters and make them take overwatch positions. get the police on their feet and roaming. Move patrol boats towards the harbor to seal it off.

>>17793791
loljam? Even if improved version, its like polishing a turd.

Can we temporarily impound all ships in our waters? If we do that it will be a lot easier to foil those dastardly murrikans.

>>17793809
Yup, 50+ years of unreliability. Retard.

>>17793724
we can just make Tavor's w/ nanites. Will that make Israel mad? Maybe, but here in little while there wont be jack shit they can do about
it
>>17793718
>Embassies
This is other countries wanting an embassy in Zanzia, correct? If so, accept their offer, have city planners draw up a diplomatic section in Port Liberty and appropriate lots for whichever country.

>Black Superman
Do we know his real name? Create a public park in memorial outside of Port Liberty, name it after him (can't really call it Black Superman Park, so whatever his real name is) with a small statue in-front of the park

>>17793880
Whatever you say, just let it die man.
>>17793865
That would be ridiculously expensive but worth it. We need to get every citizen looking for these guys. No way 30 or so whiteys who don't speak the language are going around undetected.

>>17793865
I'm pretty sure we in the process of doing that.

>>17793850

I highly doubt they'll try the port. Thats the first place we'll look.

But no harm trying. Get a couple of K9 dogs which have picked up their scent and bring them to the port to check if they've made their way there.

In case of an airborne exfil, I want flights of MIG-21s flying area denial missions over the coastline.

MIG-29s are to be on scramble alert.

STs can also be launched for more eyes.

>>17793911
Like how the XM8 died! Ba-da-shhhh!

-The Marines seemed to have armed themselves and are currently in a hit-and-go fire-fight with our PMC and police. Their path is leading them towards one of our great football(soccer) stadiums along the coast!

>>17793904
We should totally name it that.
>>17793915
Did we ever get those patrol boats?

>>17793928
>Their path is leading them towards one of our great football(soccer) stadiums along the coast!

I hope they don't have a hidden base in the stadium or escape vehicle.

>>17793904
>This is other countries wanting an embassy in Zanzia, correct? If so, accept their offer, have city planners draw up a diplomatic section in Port Liberty and appropriate lots for whichever country.

I think they want Zanzian embassies on THEIR lands AND they are going to pay the expenses and upkeep. Which is very important because upkeep of a single embassy can cost up to 10 million $ a year.

>>17793928
Send a hind. If they don't surrender, blow them away.

>>17793880
I would argue, but you just made the point I was going to make. Yes, 50 years of unreliability. Deal with it.
>>17793925
And now you've gone full nelson.
>>17793928
VUVUZELA SMAAAAAASH
BLAST THEM TO HELL AND BACK WITH OUR CALLS OF WAAAR

>>17793718
>-Black Superman has been found dead, seemingly.

We should investigate into this heavily after the even with marines is over.

>>17793928

Good.

Tighten the net around them and close in.

DO NOT LET THEM REACH THE STADIUM.

Do we have flying firefighting boats?

I want a few of them filled up. With water. And patrolling over head. Lets see how they fight when it takes a dump on them.

Bring up some water riot cannons and lots of tear gas.

>>17793928
Aim for their knees!
We dont want to set off whatever bombs these guys have strapped to them.

Also get news cams to the scene and brodcast this all over the BBC

>>17793961
My guess is a second swing at an Iran-style rescue. I would scramble the Migs and look for C-130s.
>>17793980
I would politely ask the ZIA about it.

>>17793928
We should wake the KGB guy and get his help on this matter too.

>>17793928

>Appendum

Launch mission is GO for MIG-29s.

Mission is area denial, possible pursuit and destruction of airborne targets.

I want them flying overhead.

Get all the fighter craft in the air. The ground attack planes, too.

If possible, are there bridges in the path to the stadium that could be blown up in order to halt the marines' advance?

>>17794000

>Additionally

Bring up our SF sharpshooters to deploy about the area.

Take them down. Leg shots or arm shots.

>>17793964
I see your Hind and raise you a Punisher.

>>17794019
Do we have tear gas? if we do I'd say smoke ALL of the involved area. Make breathing imposible without special gear.

>>17793928
>>17793928
Can we get a few aircraft in the area, probably helicopters, we should keep up the search elsewhere in case these are a diversion, no sense lowering our guard until we confirm capture.

Also, can we send some forces to that section of coast, anti naval stuff?

>>17794031
>comics
>superhero comics
Uh, I don't think this will work.

>>17794034

That would endanger our citizens.

That reminds me. Activate the emergency broadcast channel.

We have armed, dangerous men loose in port liberty. All citizens are advised to stay put and KEEP THEIR HEADS DOWN.

>>17794031
Unless the ZIA has failed us totally, the marines won't have any AA missile launchers.

>>17794064
I'm honestly sick of non-lethal weapons. At this point, we're basically sacrificing ourselves to the Americans. Fuck them up with our Hinds, send the survivors to a military hospital, and be done with it.

-Air is in orbit of the city keeping an eye out for enemy exfil craft.

-Marines are now in a fire fight trying to reach the stadium, one of our squads have blockaded a street to hold them back. Intense fire fight ongoing.

-International communications have been jammed as well as TV stations. Russia is bringing their Migs into the air as well as a precautionary measure.

>>17794048
>Punisher MAX
>superhero comic
lol

>>17794117
Demand their surrender and tell them that if they lay down their arms and return to their cells to serve their time they will not be harmed or executed.

>>17794117

Bomb them with flash grenades until they surrender. Bomb them with tear gas until they surrender. We want to know who in our military let them out/how they were able to get out and take the appropriate actions.

>>17794110
That's were I'm at right now. We gave them a chance at the trial to explain themselves peacefully. Instead they choose to break out and kill our soldiers. The correct answer is to just blow them away.

>>17794110
We're not sacrificing ourselves. We're preserving their lives in order to use them again against their masters.
Like rescuing a puppy, then putting it under your boot. Then telling the owner "Do what I say or else."
The most patient man wins.
>>17794117
Do what he >>17794145 said.
>>17794132
At least as super as Rorschach, I'd say.

>>17794145

also concussion grenades. can't forget about them.

>>17794117
Is it us that's doing the jamming, if so why? if not, do we know where the jamming is coming from? It should be pretty obvious.
Send word to the all the reporters we know about what's happening. Use landlines if possible, if not, use couriers.

>>17794155
There are going to be survivors either way, and it's pretty clear America doesn't care that much. At this point, we have a moral obligation to fuck them up.

>>17794117

We are also near the coast. Get some of our patrol boats to secure the coastline near the area.

Get the word out to the police units on the street. Loudhailer the broadcast to the city. Civilians should stay put, no heroics.

I want our awacs in the air with an escort flight.

Have them try to triangulate the origination of the jamming signal.

I want a flight of frogfoots fitted for ASW and another fitted for ground attack.

Both to be on scramble alert.

>>17794196

>Dropped my name, dammit 4chan.

>>17793904
You don't make statues for nutcases. He'll be forgotten in ten years or less. Let him die completely.

>>17793928
Oh shit. Here comes Bane.

>>17794144
Fuck that.

International Cooperation Nice Guy here. Time to either kill them outright or gas them into unconsciousness, then take them quietly to an underground torture base.

A peaceful society thrives not only on cooperation, but on decisive action against shirkers.

We should get into serious talks with the Russians about acquiring a handful of nuclear weapons and ICBM technology.

>>17794209
Do we have that kind of gas? Kolokov-1 would be brutal enough for my tastes.

>>17794214
Why? How could that possibly help us?

>>17794219

How about we just drop gallons of bear mace on them as well?

>>17794214
NOPE.
If we start shopping for nukes, we make ourselves a HUGE TARGET and lose our international goodwill. If we have to use a nuke, we've probably lost already.

>>17794219
If we don't have it, just shoot their legs off.

>>17794225
The U.S. won't militarily mess with countries that have nuclear weapons. Until we have some feasible deterrant to U.S. military adventurism, we can continue to expect them or their pawns to actively interfere with our state, if not try to overthrow it entirely.

>>17794237
Leg shots are actually about as lethal as torso shots. Lots of arteries.

>>17794235
Having nukes isn't about USING them, it's about BEING ABLE to use them.

>>17794254
Then what's safe to shoot?

>>17794209
I agree with you, except in regards to torture. The only thing it does is make us look like a psycho. If we're going to capture these guys we should give them a proper trial.

>>17794265
Ass is safest. Non-lethal shots are over-rated.

>>17794265

With a high powered bullet?

Nothing.

>>17794265
Nothing. If you're shooting people, you're ALWAYS shooting to kill.

>>17794209
> an underground torture base.
...where did all that liberalism of yours go? Just keep gassing them with tear gas. It'll work out.

Promise them a fair trial when they surrender.

>>17794214
>>17794262
Fucking nigger, disassembler nanos. what more do you need? Also, nukes are faaar to obvious.
>>17794265
Nothing is. All hits with firearms are potentially lethal. Always shooting to kill. Shit just doesnt work for subdoing.

Once we capture them, we should have ICC representatives present at the trial to insure international cooperation and goodwill.

>>17794265
Nothing really, even if you don't hit anything important, there's a good chance they'll go into shock and die anyway.

>>17794297
We can always try the survivors of a missile attack. At this point, we have an obligation to our own people.

>>17794297
Dissasembler nanos are much worse to make public than nukes, if we make it public we have weaponized nanos, we become everyone number one target.

>>17794275
No one but us needs to know we're torturing anyone. We can just say that we sent them to a permanent detainment location safe from international interference.

Or something like that.

>>17794286
Anything to take them out yet keep their blood pumping.

>>17794297
I'm post-conventionalist. There's no liberal-conservative dichotomy in my mind - only what needs to be done. I don't see how we gain anything from keeping guys who kept secrets,killed our men, broke out of prison, and are going to kill our of our men.. alive for any other reason than to know where they came from.

>>17794337
I love the way you say that. It makes it sound like the crime is surviving the missile attack.

>>17794345
Still better than nukes. At least they leave no fallout.

>>17794337
Fine, blow them up. They've overstayed their welcome anyway.

>>17794337

Indeed.

They have endangered the safety of our people.

There can only be one outcome.

>>17794360
If we're not going to use torture as a terror weapon, what's the point? It's not going to give us information we couldn't have gotten otherwise.

>>17794397
Not entirely true. Although I admit it usually isn't worth the political fallout.

The bigger problem in my mind is how the fuck they got out from our facilities! I want as many alive as possible. There is a serious hole in our security and I want it fixed.

>>17794360
more of our ^

>>17794397
I'm not sure how we're going to get info on where these guys came from/what their HQ & goals are other than through torture.

>>17794415
We kill them when we're done and say they tried to escape again. Not like it wouldn't be believable.

>>17794420
SPIES!

>>17794415
That's my point. The costs of torturing outweigh the benefits.

>>17794420

We can assign blame and figure out the break later.

Kill/Recapture these arseholes first.

>>17794367
Nukes are a known technology, every major power knows the principles they use and could probably make one if they actually cared. Disassembler nanos are a new technology they don't have, one that they will want.
If we do get a wmd publicly, we'd be safer with a nuke, as it makes us less of a target.
Nukes have the deterrant value without the need to show our hand with our secret nano projects

>>17794360
>>17794426
We know where they came from
We know where they wanted to go
We know what they had with them
We dont need to torture them for anything
Your actions are unnecessary and possibly damaging to Zanzia
Also torture is wrong
Was, is and will always be something very, very wrong

>>17794426
>implying torture works for getting valid information.
No! No no no no no!

>>17794436
Interesting fact: the CIA actually teaches recruits that they will ultimately break under torture.
>>17794466
I mostly just want the propaganda value of a fair trial. I would feel kind of bad if we violated the Geneva convention on people who believed that what they did was right.

>>17794426
Torture is actually a really shitty way of getting information. Look at this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanns_Scharff the best interrogator the Nazis had, and he never tortured anyone. We should us his techniques, which actually work.

>>17794466
Do we Really know?

>>17794476
Hell if I know. I've never been near the military.

Fine. No torture. But they must be killed as quickly as possible.

>>17794491
I knew I wasn't the only one who immediately opened Wikipedia in a new tab once the debate started.

-Reports of a fire on an oil rig off shore! Seemingly unrelated, radar shows zero inbounds at this time. Patrol boats have spotted nothing.

-The marines have been pushed into an office building, we've lost track of them, it seems they've hit the sewers - which could go anywhere...but the stadium is connected to the sewers.

-Our national air defense would like to know if we should activate our ranged radar as well as air defense systems to cover holes in defense while our air is busy elsewhere?

>>17794297
>>17794214
Our vibrations are getting nasty.... Have we descended to some manner of crude beast?

These marines have signed their own death certificate. The plan is have any vehicles available section off all roads around them and slowly move in twards them to halt progress, have marksmen planted on rooftops near the isolaton point. Have 2 heinzs circling the area, and give 3 warnings, then 2 warning shots to surrender. After that send in the Heinz to mop up...

>>17794522
Activate all radar stuff.

Make a great call over the public service announcement channels: all citizens are hereby called to take a dump and flush their toilets.

Wait for the dead marines to be washed out at the sewage facility.

>>17794533
Too late. Now here's another ethical quandary, do we send civilian volunteers into the sewers knowing that some of them will probably be killed?

>>17794533
>>17794533
Damn too late, open up plans for sewage system, have armed trucks, helos or boats at all possible exits

>>17794522
>it seems they've hit the sewers - which could go anywhere...but the stadium is connected to the sewers.

NO.
JUST NO!

REAL LIFE SEWERS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!
THEY AREN'T INTERCONNECTED TUNNELS WHICH GO EVERYWHERE!

>>17794587
AND WHICH CAN BE EASILY TRAVELED BY PEOPLE!

>>17794587
refer to
>>17794563
Exploitan realistic sewer build, hehehe.

>>17794522

Radar: Yes

AWACs up as well.

Grand Leader. I earlier asked for teams to be sent into the sewers. Are they there or not?

Have a platoon or two covering the stadium.

Assign a couple of Hinds to the firefighters and get them to the oil rig. We need our people off that deathtrap.

>Air defense
Yes

>Marine in sewers
Have the office building searched, just in case. Have the soldier fan out and report (by radio) every ten or fifteen minutes. We'll know where the marines are when soldiers start failing to report. Have a decent number of solders and a hind stationed at stadium. SOP is to capture if possible but if not, oh well.

>>17794489
>Interesting fact: the CIA actually teaches recruits that they will ultimately break under torture.
At which point you will say anything just to make it stop. Which does absolutely nothing to tell your interrogators whether or not the information is true, because you'd say fucking anything by that point.

>>17794587
As you know, the previous regime built huge numbers of tunnels under the city to move quickly without being seen.
TL;DR Roll with it dude.

That was stupid of them. Get a map of the sewer systems and drop teams into the chokepoints, cutting them off from any movement whatsoever. It's gonna be pretty easy to box them in and then slowly tighten the net. Make sure we have above ground support for when they pop up.

Any aircraft seeing the marines emerging from the sewers has the green light to fire on them to keep them in the sewers while we close in on them.

>>17794522
Activate all radar and issue a state of emergency in Port Liberty and order all citizens to remain in homes until further notice. Send our best to recon in the sewers and if possible cover all exit routes to the city.

>>17794587
They could be storm drains, i believe those are often large enough for human passage.
I recall reading some places use one system for both storm and waste water.

Maybe we could pump teargas down into the system?
Drain a lake into it?

>>17794522
Activate long range scanning, I assume we have a group of Fishbeds already in the in the air, if not scramble reserves. They are under orders to intercept all UFOs or otherwise flying objects

>>17794522
>>17794566
>>17794568
We have to get ahead of them, not chase them.

They could be planning to use the stadium as a landing site for some rescue op. Can we close the ceiling or something? If not, we need to get men to the center of that space.

>>17794587
If they aren't, but there's still a connection between these sewers and the stadium, then these guys know way too much to have "just happened" to need to dock.

>>17794608
DO IT.

>>17794629
This. And get police forces/anyone available to cover sewer exits from the other side.


WE ARE GOING TO GET THESE BASTARDS.

>>17794522

>All radars radianting

NOPE.

Get all Fencers in the air using AShMs, arms Su-25s for CAS as well as Hinds. Ful Military alert.

Begin cycling air-defence radars, but no targeting, until we know where the air attack is coming from, Prepare for incoming aircraft. Get Neotekz to start deploying lasers and anti-stealth measures if they can.

>>17794644
I'd bet anything the Americans have a stealth Apache in the air. We should have the police park cruisers on any potential landing sites.

>>17794658

Perhaps we don't need to.

Have them use the field as a killing field and arm them with our MANPADs and heavy machine guns.

The moment the heli drops in, they're toast.

>>17794697
It could be a ruse to get them to a safehouse. I would prefer to keep our options open.

>>17794697
That works, too.

We'll get you, and your little aircraft, too!

>>17794613
>Air defense
Changing my vote to no.

Make sure we have men at the stadium concealed, ready to open fire at the marines. Place men at all likely positions where a helicopter might land close to the marines. Give them anti-air rockets as well as sniper rifles.

I want enough men to ensure they die should they choose to stand and fight.

So, how many think this is the prelude to a yankee invasion?

>>17794587
ZANZIAN SEWERS (TM)
Do we have water producing Nanoboxes at hand? I say flood the sewers to drown the marines.
Lock down everything.

>>17794658
>If they aren't, but there's still a connection between these sewers and the stadium, then these guys know way too much to have "just happened" to need to dock.

OFW the actual plan is to infiltrate NeoTekz labs while we are distracted to steal our shit!

Contact them and put them all on ultra-high security alert!

>>17794719
I just realized something. Did the marines get their weapons back or are they running around unarmed?

>>17794722

Yankee? No. Liberian? Yes.

Dollars to donuts the Liberians are setting the fires.

>>17794563
>US Marines (who have killed at least 19 of our people) drowning in shit

I approve.

>>17794737

>Several of the posts have stated that it has been filled with gunfire from the Marines
>Asking if the marines are unarmed.

>>17794722
We supply 40% of Russia's oil. There's no way the US is that stupid.

>>17794722
If they attempt it, they're stupid.

We're supplying 40% of Russia's crude right now, and every nation on the planet is practically begging us to open up an embassy on their territory so that they can get access to our wonder-cure for AIDs.

>>17794753
Never mind. Well, that pretty much solidifies the fact that we have a leak somewhere.

>>17794722
>>17794732
>>17794741


I'm thinking about this stuff, too. We should make sure that all national sites are on alert and that we ramp up those fire investigations.

We're at war here, whether it's declared or not.

>>17794732
You've got a good point. We need to get some people out there ASAP.

>>17794767
Right now our priority is to get those fucking Yankees. Sadly, the Liberians will probably take advantage of the chaos to light up some of our agricultural land.

>>17794732
>OFW the actual plan is to infiltrate NeoTekz labs while we are distracted to steal our shit!
That actually sounds pretty damn plausible.

Order all security at NeoTekz sites on high alert.

>>17794767

Agreed. We're on a war footing.

Troops need to be sent to all sites of national security.

We should look into establishing some sort of DEFCON rating and responses so that some things are automatically done.

Once the crisis is over.

>>17794783
Agreeing with this.

>>17794794
Thirding this. That or wherever we hid that quantum computer thing.

RAMP THE SECURITY UP AT EVERYTHING.

KGB'S GUYS HOME, THE THORIUM REACTORS, ALL AIRFIELDS, ALL FACTORIES, ALL DESALINATION PLANTS, OUR HOME, ALL GOVERMENT BUILDINGS, AND NEOTEKZ LABS, SHIT DISPATCH SOME PATROLS AROUND THE BIGGEST FARMS IF WE CAN.

>>17794815
That reminds me, did we ever wake up KGB guy? I like that guy.

>>17794790
>>17794809
>>17794815

This is why I said we needed to train civilians for national security & defense through the ZONES program.

Is it making sense now?

>>17794824
Shit, are any of the zones open yet? That's another decently valuable target.

>>17794824

We are going to institute Compulsory Military Service, about 2 years for all males aged 18 or so. That should be sufficient training for war.

>>17794835
They've only been in production for two months, so they're not a high-quality target.

Wait, what's the security on our Ice Cream factories? If those get taken down we'd be well and truly fucked!

>>17794835

Zone are rebuildable.

He who defends all, defends nothing. Should stick to guarding the more valuable targets.

-Have men at the chokepoints in the sewers to box in the marines. Give Aircraft the greenlight to fire on marines emerging from the sewers once they realize they have been boxed in.

-Use additional aircraft to scour the skies to find the rescue aircraft.

-Ramp up port security/dispatch men to the port to ensure that there isn't a secondary evac point there. Also, send out ships into ocean to find if the US is using a support fleet for the rescue Operation.

-Immediately put our NeoTekz lab on high alert, as well as facilities of high importance. If there are men to spare to send there so be it.

-Firefighting squadrons should be sent out to fight the fires. Additionally begin recon missions/covert ops missions on neighboring countries to find out which nation is starting these fires.

-Warn KGB guy, get him to a safe location. Appraise Russia once all is said and done about the situation give them a sit-rep.

Anything else?

>>17794846
Part of me wants to argue over which assault rifle we give them, and part of me just wants to assume we have infinite Tavors.
>>17794859
This is my desktop background.

>>17794870

We can always make more. Nanite or actually in the factory.

We do have the licenses to build them, right?

>>17794869

Dogs.

Every chase in the sewers needs dogs on their tail

>>17794846
Compulsory service for dudes is fine, especially for traditional war, but an always-on volunteer citizenry makes things much easier. Everyone is literally in this together. It's a different game when you have to fuck with every single person you encounter while on a mission - much less what they can quickly and easily report into a national security system.

Monitoring the tip system would also be something even our middle school level citizens can handle.

>>17794859
THE ICE CREAM!

>>17794907
When something goes wrong, you've gotta get a dog.

>>17794869

-Forgot to mobilize civilian authorities topside to ensure that marines cannot move topside once they emerge.

-Station men at the Stadium ready to take out rescue chopper if it lands there. have men there ready to take out marines if they try to board the chopper.

>>17794907
This is true. Also, grizzled sewer inspectors with barely working flashlights.

>sewers
Drainage. Though old-city sewers are large, as in, pre 1920s... depends on the city sirs. In this case I mean drainage.

-Marines escaped up a manhole. We've lost track of them near the stadium...

-Marines have been caught by a patrol on the OTHER side of the city! Firefight is underway! It seems they split up earlier!

-Radar picked up something briefly on its way in from the ocean. Its flying under our scan capability. Shall the Mig-21s intercept?

-Security at NeoTekz is high right now.

-Air verifies one of our rigs is on fire. Rescue boats and aircraft are on the way. No enemy air or vessels near it as best they can tell.

>>17794966
Intercept MOTHERFUCKING intercept.

SHOOT IT DOWN

>>17794966
>unknown blip
Have MiG-21's and MiG-29's intercept.

>Marines everywhere
Send in Hind's to make their lives miserable.
Have a pair of Hinds lurk near the stadium, and a couple of squads with MANPADS in the stadium itself.

>Radar
Intercept it, if it refuses to leave our airspace, blow it away.

>>17794966
There's our Apache. It feels like a trick, so let's keep some Mig-21s over the rest of the country. Also, have a Hind end those fuckers.

>>17794966
Intercept. Also send helicopters to the firefight location. Shoot the marines from air.
Have we gone public with the fact that american marines are running and gunning around in our capital when we're trying to end world hunger and AIDS?

Don't just intercept the UFO without first attempting to make radio contact. We don't need to shoot down a russian plane for no raisin.

>>17794966

Send a flight to intercept. Hold back other craft in reserve.

Other side of the city is closer east/west or north?

If its near or heading ourside city limits, launch STs for CAS.

Keep our Russian military liaison apprised of the situation. Perhaps they move to engage as well.

I want dogs on the scene near the stadium pick up their trail.

All unit that sight the enemy are to attempt to get a quick count of the enemy force. See if those we've sighted are roughly the same number as we captured.

>>17795019
International and TV communications are being jammed by someone.
We won't be able to tell anyone until after the fact.

>>17794966

Intercept it. Start cycling air defence in a random pattern so that enemy SEAD aircraft won't know where to go.

Once we have an ID on the enemy aircraft, start a press condference detailing what happened, and start lambasting whoever did it.

Any luck with Neotekz deploying anti-stealth or lasers yet?

I'm thinking security protocol is as follows:
Neoteks>KGB Guy>Quantum Computer>Oil assets>Liberian Border.

-Intercept the aircraft, there is no reason why a friendly aircraft should be flying under radar.

-Have we men already stationed at the stadium to insure that none of them get away?

-Send some men to the second marine detachment. They are probably heading for the coast for a coastal pick-up. Have our ships out already scouring any incoming sea vessels.

-Ignore the oil rig fire for now. Rescue crews can handle it. Spec ops probably set it on fire to confuse us.

-Our aircraft should be in the air already scouring the city for these fucks.

-If worse comes to worse, get ready to bomb the stadium. They will not get away.

Is it physically possible to have a plane or helicopter with an operating nanobox, or do they take too much energy? We could presumably have helicopters that put out fire by creating fire-retardant or have helicopters rain ice cream or bread or meat from the air.

>>17795064
I know the river nano box needed to be hooked into our power grid. I'm not sure about the smaller units.

>>17795019
Who wanted to give them back the damn computer?

Fuck this bullshit. Public relations war against the US, and make sure everyone knows we are pissed about their interference with Liberia and the Ivory Coast.

>>17795058
>-Intercept the aircraft, there is no reason why a friendly aircraft should be flying under radar.
This.

>>17795064
>Ice cream rain
Yes


I want another Russian air base ASAP. And a navy base.

North is otherside. Towards russian ab and thorium.

>>17795083
Could we get a city map, or just draw one up?

>>17795081
>I want another Russian air base ASAP. And a navy base.
I'm leaning towards this.
I think what would be really great would be a military alliance with EU nations, ensuring that the vast majority of the world would be against the US in a war.

>>17795101
Sure....gimme 5.

>>17795083
>Towards russian ab and thorium
>thorium
Let's get our IFV's to wipe out those Marines.

>>17795083
Let's light up their night. With hinds.

>>17795081
>Who wanted to give them back the damn computer?
I did, and we were giving them the copy with all of the backdoors built in by NeoTekz.

What, did we give them back the original? Because that wasn't part of the plan.

>>17795120
Sounds good for the foreseeable future, then...

ALL HAIL ZANZIA!

>>17795147
Does this mean we get those Kilos I've been whining about for the last 3 threads?

>>17795144
We haven't given anything back yet, and I don't think we ever should. If we do, we give them a copy with the backdoors as you suggested.

But before you, people were saying we should give back the PC.

>>17795156
What's a Kilo?

While we're at it, what's a hind?

>>17795120

Need those EU alliances. Try France, Germany, Sweden, in that order.

>>17795175
Diesel Submarine, and attack-heli/troop carrier. Russia sells both for dirt cheap.

>>17795191
Good. I was worried for a second that we were using a bomber discontinued in the 1950s.

>>17795175
The hind is one of the best attack helicopters ever made, here's the wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mil_Mi-24

>>17795222
Both of those are old designs that still work fantastically. The Hind has actually single-handedly changed the outcome of two wars.

>>17795236
Shit. There's a lot of war in the world today. If there are that many listing for just one type of helicopter, I don't think that I want to know the rest.

>>17795297
To be fair, it's the AK-47 of air support.

>>17795178
I'm with this guy

If only black superman were here :(

>>17795442
I'm pretty sure we had him killed. Last thread there was a lot of talk of arranging an "accident" for him.

>>17795442
He's good for propaganda if nothing else.

-Red Triangles = S-300s, Red Circles = Radar (Active alternating.)

-Marines seem to be fighting towards the (Civilian) airport. Though further up-road is thorium and airbase.

-Marines are still fighting to get to stadium.

-Hinds have been mobilized and IFVs.

-Aircraft will be intercepting shortly.

TO CLARIFY
Marines 1: Near Stadium
Marines 2: Near Airport
I'll let Map see how your actions now go.

>>17795475
Let's have the local police park a shitload of cars ion the runway, just in case. And move up a radar and an S-300 battery from the coast to prevent any movement around Neoteks and support our IFVs.

>>17795474
Not good to encourage mass ignorance.

>>17795475
I want every runway shut down and men out there with weapons. Nothing leaves until those marines are dead or wounded such that they are immobilized.

>>17795475
When the hinds get to the marines we should give them one last chance to surrender.

If we'd had Hinds instead of shithawks, Black Hawk Down never would have happened.

>>17795561
They're already shooting and being shot at. Just strafe the area and let god sort it out.
>>17795572
The worst part is that this may be true.

>>17795561
Fuck no. Kill on sight.

>>17795586
>>17795634
We'll look better if we give them a last chance. It may seem like a minor thing, but it takes no effort on our part. It's not like they'll have stingers or something.

>>17795531
This, block the runway.

Have we broadcasted anything about this? Just in case we end up killing the marines we don't want the US claiming we executed them.

>>17795684
We will not look better. We will look weak, gullible, and just stupid.

Kill them.

Kill them All.

>>17795684
I don't think our planes have megaphones. And they're shooting at us as we do this. Fuck that.

>>17795693
Our TV Signals are being blocked, so nothing gets in or out.

>>17795705
By us or them?

Find whoever is jamming our signals.

>>17795714
Them.

>>17795698
How would killing them all help us? They have information we want. Furthermore, by bringing them to court, we look like we're a nation of laws. Whereas killing a bunch of prison escapees with helicopters makes us look like thugs. We don't need all of them alive, just two or three. Enough to interrogate and put on trial.

>>17795728
This is the exact point at which I begin to regret not putting in broadband cable. We need to figure out how to transmit. Let's use everything from Iridium satellite phones to HAM radio to TV broadcasting until we can get a major news network to pick up the story.
>>17795760
They stop killing us. That's good enough reason for me.

>>17795760
Do you really think a few dozen soldiers matter as much as our national image?

>>17795799
>>17795775
Meant to send that your way, sorry.

>>17795799
Our national image is fine. People with guns who have shot at law enforcement get killed all the time. This is no different.

Hey guys, you know what a good way would be to make bajillions on dollares without being accused of profiteering?

Develop a cure or a procedure against balding.

>that feel when the idea came to me while brushing teeth I looked into the mirror and saw my balding head.

>>17795825
Those people aren't usually soldiers from a country that almost started a war with Russia. The international situation is extremely tense right now. There's no margin for error.

-A flock of birds is messing with radar, informs an officer, they are inbound from the south east. Other than that and our own planes. Radar seems clear.

-Marines have made it to the stadium, a few have been injured and left behind. Stadium is almost under control. 7 marines fighting actively, 3 dead or injured. Total of 10.

-Marines have been spotted going to the airport... its far fewer than there should be, 8 marines. That leaves 12 missing marines.

-Mig interception has found nothing yet over the sea, they are inbound back along a probable flight path.

>>17795869
I think weakness here would send a worse message than violence.

>marines leaving their own behind

That's not typical.

>>17795888
I don't think many people will see "Surrender or die" as weak.

>>17795880
Have we saturated the capital with soldiers yet?
>>17795915
Well, there are the intel assets everyone was belly-aching about.

>>17795880
>That leaves 12 missing marines.

I KNEW IT!

THEY ARE AFTER OUR ICECREAM- I MEAN NANOTECH!

>>17795888
The thing is that it's looking like an bunch of bloodthirsty thugs to first world countries who are more powerful then us at the moment.

>>17795930
If they are after NeoTekz, does that place have anything of major importance besides the people inside?

>>17795931
Well, they died under ridiculously justified circumstances. The media blackout makes it harder to prove that, but is still pretty suspicious.

>>17795880
wait a minute... don't those stealth choppers leave a radar signature about the size of a bird or some such? I vote we reroute a MiG or two to check that shit out just to be safe.

>>17795915
I'm aware of this. Which is why I/advisers felt the need to point out them doing something out of the normal.

>>17795931
We wouldn't have this problem if we had killed them in the first place. We won't make that mistake again.

>>17795930
FUCK! WE NEED TO GET SOLDIERS TO THE ICE CREAM SHOPS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

>>17795976
Who the fuck sells Ice Cream in Africa, anyway?

>>17795988
Us.

>>17795974
I really think we should have a better reason to kill another nation's soldiers then "They seemed shady."

>>17795988
We do. Deal with it.

>>17795969
Time to put our people to work. Use messengers/mailpersons to spread photocopies of the faces of the men around our borders, key facilities, and then the general public. We are going to find these bastards, and use the incident as a national call to service.

>>17795880


>flock of birds
Have a MiG divert over there to check it out. I'm probably paranoid, but I want to be sure they're birds and not stealth choppers of some kind.

>stadium
Continue to fight to secure the stadium. Have a Hind assist our ground troops.

>Missing Marines
Have a Hind go over to the Thorium Reactor to protect it, while another goes to reinforce the NeoTekz building.

>>17795988
It's our national food stuff IIRC.

>>17795967
I'm more worried that the Americans have assets inside our government.
>>17796009
How about "they committed premeditated homicide in our country?."

>>17796015
We must realize that by protecting the NeoTekz facility, we're letting the US/Liberia know where our key interests are. If they don't know that's an important area already, they do now.

Time to relocate.

>>17796038
Can we have my Area 51 now?

>>17796030
Except it wasn't, the ship was going to saudi arabia. It got damaged on the way which is why they stopped here. It wouldn't have been the first time we helped a damaged american ship.

>>17796057
Does that change the fact that they killed a bunch of police in our country?

>>17796041
You agreed that we need a national cable/fiberoptic network, Navy, and secret bases. We're on the same page.

FUND THESE THINGS NOW

>>17796041
We already got one in the mountains. Actually on second thought, we should leave it unguarded. I once heard " If you want to keep a secret from the worlds greatest dectective, stick it right in front of him the entire time.

>>17796038
This is a good idea. We should also expand the ZIA, find the leaks in our government and plug them.

>>17796073
How about "hide it under 500 ft of earth in the middle of the Sahara desert?"

>>17796083
>find the leaks and plug them
Preferably with a little more subtlety that their previous engagement.
While I appreciate their zeal, they need to be a little less overt.
I mean, a dog chewed off his finger? Really?

>>17796068
Yes, because it wasn't planned before hand. There's a huge difference between a bunch of soldiers trying to break out of prison and a country sending soldiers to kill our police.

>>17796106
Yeah, but have to expect some mistakes when their still new.

>>17796108
They killed our guys when we were just trying to find out what was on their ship. We went in with no lethal force.

>>17796126
Yes, but that's different then them being sent for the purpose of killing our guys.

>>17796125
To be fair, it was pretty amusing. You get your ice-cream factories I get my crazy secret police.
>>17796142
That fact that they weren't sent their to do it makes their case worse. Soldiers have legal rights to protection, civilian criminals don't. We could have shot them all and it would have been perfectly legal.

>>17796142
Remember that we're at war here, too.

There can be only little doubt that the US is actively involved in trying to replace our leadership. Without us, Russia is in trouble. For that reason, if nothing else, they're going to keep targeting us heavily. We can't back down.

It's like dealing with any bully.

>>17796164
We could have killed them but: 1: We'd look like thugs, 2: We wouldn't be able to interrogate them.

>>17796192
We are not at war with the US. You can tell because we're not getting bombed. The United States has been fucking with since the beginning, but they do that with every third world country.

>>17796230
Proxy war, dude. We still need to fight for our survival here.

>>17796245
What proxy war? Liberia has been a dick, but they haven't started a war with us. Did you mean a cold war? If so then creating a flash point, like killing a bunch of marines, would be not help us much.

>>17796275
I think we all agree not to kill any of them outside of combat. Even the US wouldn't declare war with a casus belli that weak.

>>17796300
The US has started wars based on outright lies at least twice. If they really wanted to invade us, they'd find a way.

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