I think we did. It allows for vast differences and seperation between the peoples.

>>7768588
>>7768573
It possesses volcanic islands too, don't forget.
I would really like to see someone try to draw up a rough drawing of our world.

>>7768573
The world is a broken up, but essentially pangean. The Goblins believe that it's flat. There are numerous small and large islands here and there, aswell as huge swampland jungles in the middle of the oceans.

So sayeth I.

Also, I love it. "Orchitecture". "The Grand Orchitect". Love it.

do to the lack of metals in the desert the humans have turned to using magicly hardened glass for there crafting needs.

There may be other lands, but only one continent is known. The planet may be enormous, many times larger than our Earth. If there are other landmasses, it may take several years in a dwarf skyship or elven boat to get there. So far, no-one have circumnavigated the "planet" (that we know).

>>7768624
Swamplands aren't in the oceans as we have written it... although it does sound interesting to hve some there as well. The marsh/swamplands we currently have are on the eastern side of the continent, where the air is so moist it can sometimes lead to drowning. This allows the aquatic goblins to come on land and trade and interact with the normally xenophobic halflings that inhabit these swamps.

>>7768631
Wonderful Idea. They use glass instead of rock and metal for their needs. Weapons, buildings, even clothing is woven from this glass. Gives me an idea for another tale...

>>7768631
they brn grammer boks to fule the frnaces

>>7768638
I just made it up. Consider it atolls of swampland, like floaty, green islands in the middle of the oceans.

>>7768656
So my English sucks big deal.

>>7768653
>>7768631
How would you do "magicly hardened glass" without mages, and how would making glass at all tie well into humans being nomads? Pass.

I could see the Orcs, Goblins and Gnomes using "Magic glass", but no-one else, really. Others either don't live near the deserts or sand (such as Halfings), or they live nomad lives or don't employ arcane magic.

I drew a rudimentary map, but it seems I got some thing wrong mayhaps.

>>7768672
mobile buildings, and why can't there be mages?

>>7768691

And just right there, a glass tower came to mind.

>>7768671
Me love you long time

Nomadic sand people? Do they ride giant worms?

One night, in the cool air of the desert dusk, the younglings gathered around their father to ask for a story.
"Alright, alright, one story." He said, sighing.
"Once, many, many years ago, older than the oldest person the oldest person you know ever knew, there lived a tribe of people, not unlike ourselve."

"In this tribe of people, lived two feuding brothers. They warred, for the respect of their tribe."

"The first brother was a mighty mage. To show his power, he conjured the earth up from the ground, and used his power to blast it into the most brilliant glass anyone had ever laid eyes upon. And he was sure he would win the favor of his people."

"The second was a powerful mage as well, however. He conjured his house as well, but he made his from the sky, rather than the earth, something no one had ever done before. And thus he won their favor."

"The second brother was furious, and he sat, angry in his glass palace, brooding over what to do about this injustice. Plotting."

"Then, just as he could stand it no longer, he saw his brother walk by, the most beautiful woman in town in his arms. Furious, he grabbed a rock and threw it at his brothers head, aiming to kill."

"But, alas, he had forgotten that when he had built his palace of glass, he had made it clear as air, and in his anger did not realise his brother was outside. The stone struct against the glass walls, and with such a force that the entire building shattered, killing the envious brother instantly."

"So you see, children, the moral is this: People who live in glass houses should not throw stones"

>>7768697
Looks about right, if a bit rudimentary. For proportions, I'd like to say "It's about the size of Africa". Just because I want it to be fucking huge. There's supposed to be floating dwarf fortresses that doesn't even see eachother for months, possibly years at the time.

>>7768697
YES! YOU ARE AWESOME!

>>7768698
Mobile buildings in SAND? As for mages, read the thread. >>7766253 Not everything applies (gnomes are in, kobolds revere their gods, not shun them) but humans are pretty basic.

There may be some magic, but it'd be natural, not organized, like wizards. I'd chalk this up to supersition or a deep-seethed paranoia concerning magic, following the previous cataclysm.

Humans use big mirrorfarm-powered furnaces to melt sand. To them, wood is an awesomely valuable commodity and burning it would be sacrilege. Wooden ornaments are a sign of wealth and the richest of houses may even have a few pieces of furniture made of wood.

Of course, the most valued wood is the Ironwood that grows around mountains, becoming dense and hard and Sea-Sylvan, a kind of huge tree-like kelp that, when carefully dried for years, becomes astoundingly tough and durable while maintaining it's wave-born elasticity.

The best bows are composite bows fashioned from these two types of wood. Maintaining them at top condition calls for ogre tallow.

So, saw new thread after I posted so I'll repost here, since we're on humans.

So, I didn't see anything about human religion, so I'll throw my hat into the ring.

Humans believe they were created by the "Great Giver" also known as "Ookluke" (with various pronunciations and differences amongst the tribes). Ookluke was a god of prosperity and peace, he gave the humans everything they needed and more. Eventually humans became complacent with Ookluke's giving to notice the destabilization of their society.

One day, Ookluke gave his last and perished, his death brought the end of the human civilization. Now humans wander the deserts remembering what they had and seeing now what they have not. There are sects of humans that believe if they prove themselves to be completely self sufficient Ookluke will one day rise again to look over his people.

>>7768697
Very good, though I chuckled a bit how the continent is getting ready to eat the eastern islands.

>>7768732
I still believe that they should be using glass. Perhaps glass weapons, with mages being leaders of the tribes, the magic seen as an extension of their own wisdom?

Ok, so a quick recap of races seems to be in order;

Orcs - The "smartest" race, society focused on building the greatest tower. Worships the Moon.
Dwarves - Live in the sky, and hate the ground. Worships the Sun.
Gnomes - Live in waterfalls (or other rapid moving water) where they have a bubble-based society.
Ogres - Live in great frozen north, huge, hairy creatures.
Gnolls - Whalers / explorers of the north, hunt the ogres for their fat, which they sell to the gnomes.
Lizardmen - mutated kobolds who live in the jungle.
Goblins - Live underwater.
Elves -Fishing, living on floating cities á la Waterworld
Humans - Nomads, used to be great, now a struggling race.

What else?

>>7768708
Some are rumored to do so, but they are solitary men of justice.

Human Paladins are now called Saladins, and their special mounts are sandworms. They are organized in loose Orders and tend to travel alone or as part of adventurous groups.

>>7768736
OR They could use horns and bones to make bows. Bam, no wood required. Still needs ogre tallow though.

>>7768745
Trolls, a tree dwelling race with long rubbery limbs, and a tail-arm as well. They live in dense jungles, and their regeneration is simply an adaption to better deal with the constant scratches and injuries sustatined by the untamed jungle.

Oh boy, oh boy, homebrewing? I've been waiting for this forever and ever!

>>7768740
I like it. It would explain why they don't like to rely on priests, druids, wizards or other hokus-pokus.

>>7768736
Yes, and leaders are often mages, who show they can melt and create glass through their own will. This fits with the human legend written above.

>>7768767
God's name is up for a change if /tg/ sees fit. I just threw some sounds together while on the pot.

>>7768770
Instead of mages, sorcs, better fits the natural talent thing. Their powers are not viewed as magic like other magic is, but a true self-sustinance, able to create without assistance.

>>7768753
That's for poor people.

>>7768736
If you have mirror-farms, you are not a nomad.

The elves should have some fish-like characteristics, big eyes, almost transparent skin, due to their intimate connection with water. Their druids are almost more fish than elf, giving them a most uncanny appearance to those of other race who seen them. (Merfolk, bitches.)

>>7768782
Sure you can be a nomad with mirrors, nomads don't need to move every day. And some are more nomadic than others as well.

>>7768776
I like it. The first thing that comes to mind is often the best. If we overthink it, we'll spoil it. Ookluke it is.

>>7768786
Goblins are already basically merfolk, complete with gill-tails, which they wag to breath, especially when on land in the wetmarshes.

>>7768791
Agreed. If you can think of any other names for things, go ahead. I don't have any problem coming up with raw fluff, but I can't make name for crap.

>>7768786
I'd like to say no. If we go down that route, we're one step from asking ourselves "Why don't the elves have gills?" and then suddently we have fin-less merfolk on our hands. I really prefer if we stick to regular elves and give them a waterworld setting.

Let the goblins that raid them be the "fish folk" of the setting.

>>7768790
Undecided about mirror farming myself. But I have to agree with his reasoning. Middle Eastern nomads used to make awesome bronze swords that we're still not entirely sure how to replicate (if I'm wrong, then I'm blaming History Channel)

>>7768782
Different tribes, remember, maybe one or two tribes are settled around their furnaces, with the other tribes coming around to buy glass for their use and for trading to the other races?

Gnomes could be a huge market for precision-crafted glass-ware to manufacture their bubbles and for alchemical equipment in concocting the solutions from which to make their bubbles.

But if you want them to remain strictly nomadic, a tribe could carry around their mirrors, though then they'd need some humongous

>>7768805
Are you talking about Damascus steel? That wasn't nomadic. Also, they found out how to make it. It was an impurity in the ore. When that ore ran out, so did the steel. They can recreate it now.

>>7768802
Agreed, but do Elves drink their own pee or do they supply themselves with fresh water when they trade? (/raid?)

>>7768786

We already have mer-goblins and kuo toa. We don't need another race of fish people.

>>7768813
No, not steel, back with bronze weapons, not sure how they made it because they forged weapons in open fires rather than smiths.

>>7768802

Aight, scratch that then.

Still, if gnolls and elves both are sea-faring races, how do they interact? Rivalry? Co-operation? Or are they sailing so different part of the ocean they never really meet?

>>7768816
Do you think it never rains in the ocean? Or, better yet, they drink salt water. They clean it, of course, but they need salt water. Normal water doesn't do it for them.

>>7768826
Sure it rains, but it's difficult to collect rain water for an entire community to survive on. Now the salt water idea I can get behind, they may have evolved to have superior kidneys.

>>7768823
I figure since gnolls are tough sailors and businessmen, who tear the ocean up with their massive iron ships, the "love the mother ocean" elves wouldn't be too keen on them. They could still trade of course, since gnolls love that, but it would be stiff and formal and cold, much like the elves in dwarf fortress.

>>7768816
They have floating, moving "cities". All their priests are water druids. I don't think they'll have to drink their own pee.

I should've said "Waterworld.. with dignity".

>>7768840
Now all I can see is a bunch of gnolls rowing an old oil tanker... stupid Waterworld...

>>7768823

Different parts of the ocean, for the most part. However, gnolls often rely on elves as intermediaries for the ogre-blubber trade. The gnolls don't like to venture too far from their arctic seas, so they usually sell their shit to elven fleets who then sell it in turn to the land-dwellers.

Gnolls are the one race that elves almost never raid.

>>7768816
A simple sun-powered water distillation set (not unlike the alcohol brewing setups that were around since forever) would solve that problem, and also create a slow and steady stream of pure salt, which is a valuable commodity for trade, more so that the fish.

>>7768839
Haha! Yes! And elf urine processed by these kidneys is a traded commodity, similar to a fine liqour. Special foods give different flavors. They trade it with the gnolls, who trade some and keep the rest to keep them warm on long nights at sea in the north. A urinater is as honored a job as a brewer is in this world. Rather than fermenting it, it is redrunk and processed again to increase it's quality.

On Gnolls and Elves, I think there should be a stiff and strong rivalry between them, similar to Orcs and Dwarves. They are in a perpetual war or cold war. They don't like eachother at all, but don't necessarily go to war over it at any given moment. Gnolls want to rape the ocean as much as possible and sell what they can get for profit. The elves revere the ocean like a holy goddess.

Gnolls also use iron ships. They obviously aren't nomadic as the elves. I'd say that the gnolls have seaside cities here and there, like trade fortresses, ruled by merchant princes.

>>7768840

Hmm, didn't think of that.

What about gnoll religion? I'm thinking animism, with heavy emphasis on ancestor-worship. Maybe they also pray to the coal-spirits who make their engines work?

I got to thinking about the ice(?)-based dwarven tech.

Maybe this world is not your ordinary rocky world at all.

Maybe it started out as a water-world, with seas tens of kilometers deep.

Then the gods/some god decided to raise one part of the bottom up, to be settled by the sentient races.

As one part of the crust was raised, correspondingly the other parts were lowered, so now the deeps of the sea are TRULY deep.

The deepest abyssals are more than two HUNDRED kilometers deep, and within these, the water itself has been compression-solidified (yes, water does this at sufficient pressure). Sometimes the dorfs spot mountains of this supersolid ice and come down to grab some. After all, compared to normal ice, it's a lot more durable and does not melt until heated to a temperatures in the hundreds of degrees.

Just vomiting up ideas.

>>7768865
I like it. Done. Ancestor worship is always awesome, all worlds need more of it. Those gnolls who live long enough to die of natural causes are left to freeze into icy statues by the extreme cold.

>>7768865
Not coal spirits in specific, but definately animism. They are like sea-niggers.

The elves don't need gills. They are an awesomely long-lived people partly because of a slower, but more efficient metabolism, which enables them to stay underwater without breathing for up to thirty minutes at a stretch.

>>7768866
Solid water is solid because of the pressure. Remove pressure, water returns to normal. No floating mountains of "water iron" floating around unless there is magic involved (for example, the pressure is big enough to crash the laws of the universe, so a water volume gets bugged and remains solid permanently).

>>7768866
Dwarves live in the sky and love fire and the sun. I don't think Ice is big on their list of loves. Although yes, they might be able to use some. The gnolls too should use Ice, since they are of the north.

>>7768866
Ice-based dwarf tech? Where was that mentioned? I must've missed it (and I try to keep track of my dorfs!).

Anyway, I don't like it. The goblins are supposed to live on the bottom of the sea, and their cities connected by underwater cave networks. This would put them way, way, waaaay to deep to readily raid elven/gnoll fleets/ships.

>>7768895
I like it. Would turn the elves into slightly watery than vanilla elves, without turning them into merfolk.

>>7768907
They could have vents of pressure, that shoot them up, allowing vast numbers to raid, then use the resulting vaccum later to suck them back down to the depths. And don't forget, the goblins are on good terms with the Halfing mob-hicks.

>>7768895
The same metabolism that lets them drink salt water.

>>7768745
What about the godfather kajun halflings?

>>7768942
By god! I didn't notice he missed them! Perhaps they would be good canidates for ancestor worship? The importance of family goes beyond the living. These people are also necromancers, using their voodoo to reanimate the dead, so they may continue to "live".

Some thoughts on the gnome's bubble-towns

- So they live in (or behind) waterfalls, where the constant rapid water makes it easier to almost suspend the bubbles mid-air, the bubbles being able to house entire, well, houses. Should there be some magic involved, or are they just really, really good with making soap?

- Various bubble-making techniques is in use, one makes very fine, foam-like bubbles, which is used as fabric and clothes. Other make big "classic" bubbles, which is used to live in.

- Is everything made of bubbles, or do they build/import things like furniture, or soap-making equipment from let's say orcs?

- Still, what with bubbles being transparent, their society has to be a very trusting, almost hive-mind- like, as you have almost no privacy to speak of.

No! The elves exude salt through thier skin just as we do, however, since they drink saltwater they tend to be coverd in a white crispy salt-layer. This is all very natural to the elves but the scraped off salt, called "Elfsalt" is marketed across the continent as a health-product.

Halflings don't believe in souls, but worship the physical manifestation and memory of their ancestors. Thus, they casually use necromancy and see nothing strange about it. Their swamphome towns reek of death and decay, but halflings are still a pretty jolly lot.

It is implied, but never said, that they smoke a lot of strange swampgrass and eat mushrooms.

>>7768967
they can make bubbles of various consistancies and opaqueness I thought, but I do like the idea, that gnomes have a bit of a hive mind going on. Perhaps a collective unconcious? If this works, Gnomes could be the race least adapted at illusion, but most adapted to be psionics.

>>7768956
No-one else much notices them either.

Whatever contact there is, it's mainly to trade for their 275% proof moonshine. Gnomes use it as one ingredient for their most expensive bubbles.
Also, it seems to slowly dissolve glass. Lethal if imbibed raw.


How they make it is a closely-guarded secret. (some believe some sort of necromancy is used)

>>7768992
...They should trade with the hobgoblins of the north then, for the various herbs and grasses they grow. They can trade some of the goods they recieve from the goblins of the sea to these hobogoblins, such as sea goods and salts and spices of their own growing.

>>7768934
>>7768907
the "Solid water" would come from the deepest trench in the ocean much lower than where the goblins live.

>>7768967
I was thinking that the gnomes don't really live in big cities behind waterfalls, but that small towns or outposts, maybe just a house or two, are situated behind waterfalls. Their society is built around bubbles, and they utilize an intricate network of bubble-pipes that take you too and from their large metropolises.

Where these cities are, is never revealed. To get there, you must travel - by bubble - through a waterfall, in under the water, and then through a myriad of tunnels at ever-increasing speed. Their actual cities, where no non-gnome is ever allowed, are completely hidden and no-one has even found a way there. They can utilize this form of travelling to travel to any other outpost near-instantly, aswell. How this works is never revealed.

How does that sound?

>>7769019
If it is that deep, how would the dwarves get it? they never even go down to surface, if it can be helped. No ocean ice for them though. The Goblins still should use the vents for quick travel though, I think.

>>7768993

Yeah, maybe they could store their souls in a bubble, making it a sort of phylactery, giving them some form of immortality. Or just send messages, store memories and visions, which in turn could be recieved by another gnome.

(If anyone has seen the episode where Patrick and Spongebob "talk" through bubbles, that's pretty much what I'm thinking of)

>>7769021
Their cities are contained in underwater realms, housed in gigantic bubbles, with lots of pink, pearl and rainbows and shit. To go there is to go into the mind of a little girl on a psychadelic trip. Despite being seemingly underwater, they are unnaturally bright, and no-one (including goblins) have ever found out where these cities are. Or even if there are multiple cities, or just one.

>>7768956
We might aswell throw in necromantic voodoo stuff into the mix.

This leaves us with swampdwelling midgets whose society is centered around families, with the largest families being the strongest and most dominant. Cold war like rivalries, backstabbing and inbreeding is common to secure family power. And to make this all the more creepier we made them necromantic voodoo practitioners.

I think they're pretty cool.

this is Khatil Arethus, First Hero of the Fire Storm clan, weilder and master of Thilid^Mer

(yes, this is a launching point for someone to go with!)

>>7768993
I like the idea of a Hive Unconcious. Note that it's UNCONCIOUS. They all share a collective dream and are automaticly aware of the state of mind of their fellow gnomes. If there are several gnomes in a group, one gnome will instinctively notice if another gnome is in trouble, hurt or such.

>>7768898
Not defending my idea, but I'd like to correct this. Compressed ice does not melt in room temperature even when the pressure is removed. This is because of the changes in the ice structure in high pressure. Actually, speaking of ice is incorrect, as this stuff is more solid water than ice.

>>7769029
I like the storing visions and such in bubbles. Also, they could store their minds in the collective bubble, kind of like an elder brain mixed with a library in function, when their time comes, so their mind never truly leaves the collective. Unlike the elder brain, which just gains knowledge, their own mind and personality remains alive in this bubble. Also, I like to think of them as living in large, magnificent bubble towns, not small hut outposts. Though I do agree that they are a gnome only deal, not for outsiders at all. They are secretive, after all.

>>7769028
The goblins could mine it of weapons and trade.

>>7769032
Remember that they are still all a pretty jolly lot! I don't want them to be paranoid hicks. They are still halflings! Just.. by a factor of 50.

>>7768992
I love this idea, make good use of the "Necropolitan" class.
Fairly rich people turn themselves into living dead without even dying in the process. Not all know of it, but at tops a few hundred halflings are born every year. Most people are raised or otherwise granted unlife.
Fear the dwarves for their worship of the horrid sun, but has stayed under their radar.
The undead halflings are any variation of undead, everything from ghosts and wraiths to Mummies and Vampires.

>>7769032
THEY'RE pretty cool? If you haven't noticed, everything we've made is bad ass. If we don't think something is bad ass enough, we focus on it for a while. Bam! instabadass.

>>7769016
We have now made Halfings the traders with Hobgoblins, Goblins, and Gnolls. That Swampside Condo is looking better and better every day.

>>7769016
>>7769016

the hob goblins live in the south, which is close to the southern pole.

>>7769063
Good idea. Dangerous work, mining ice in the deep, but it is where they get their best material, and most valuable commodities.
>>7769064
Of course they are jolly. They are still xenophobic in general though.

>>7769094
Oh sorry, I didn't think of them, so I wasn't sure. That does make more sense. works even better for trading.

Colossi.

Twelve immortal beings of unbelievable antiquity wander the remote edges and nooks of the world, where few wander from the demands of nature alone. It is said they are remnants of the predecessor civilizations, living gods for all means immortal yet without purpose. Most do not believe in their existence, but some say they might hold the secrets of the past, the future, and the universe itself. Those who claim to have seen them and survived speak of the encounters rarely, but tell stories of men going insane or dying of some sort of mental shock when approaching too close to the beings. A few others speak of receiving prophetic visions and inhuman understanding from merely closing on to their gargantuan minds.

Theories of their being, existence and purpose range from malicious to outright impossible, but a few central theories exist. The first is that the beings guard the supercontinent from outside threats, or then protect some esoteric sites of unimaginable importance from the curiosity of it's inhabitants. Wildest of theorists, radical druids in particular, paint the beings not as constructs, but naturally occurring phenomena acting as a defense mechanism of the planet against the forced alterations by it's inhabitants.

Whatever the case, as of late, rumours of certain prominent artificiers having produced prototype mind shields against the beings' mental influences have been surfacing. The time for unfolding the secrets of the colossi might be at hand...

>>7769088
the Halfings are obviously running the Black market.

Has someone made sure to archive this page too? I know we archived the last thread, but I don't know how to do it and I don't want this to get lost.

>>7769095
>>7769064
Outsiders would experrience them as the classic jolly halflings, but still with constant feeling of being watched.

>>7769065
A race of teeny tiny, jolly, liches?

FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

That's pretty fucking metal.

>>7769107
Better, we could combine those with the giants we were unsure of earlier. Collosi are "born" on the western slopes of the stormshadow mountains. I say "born", because they are not truly born, but made, by their parent collosi. These giant beings eat rocks and sand and various things they can get their hands on. It is thought that they require a wide array of nutrients to craft their children. Such is the way of life on the western slopes of the mountain. Life is so harsh that the very rocks are among the most successful of the living species.

>>7769057
Sooo... Gnomes are our illithids? With bubbles?

Awesome.

>>7769128
We were unsure of Giants? I thought it settled that >>7766081
>Giants live in the ocean and are tall so that they can keep there head above the water and walk around. They are mostly loners because of large diet necessities. Instead of being huge in husky they are kind of lanky and scrawny.

>>7769144
Alright, these can be mountain giants then? Or perhaps have them be called golems, and be an entirely different "species"

>>7769095
Didn't really think my deep-ice idea would fly more than an inch, but that actually sounds pretty good.

Decompression sickness could explain why most goblins live such short lives and why they have so many mental ilnesses and the stooped posture.

Leading goblins live longer, are taller and more intelligent only because they don't go as deep as the ice miners.

Maybe the goblins trade with the halflings for some of their herbs, alcohol and mushrooms to keep the underclasses happily stoned?

>>7769144
>>7769144
that is shitty

>>7769128
Well, that kinda defeats the reason for my writeup of the colossi: living, walking, ultra-mysterious dungeons that can fill any role and gap in the history and cosmology of the setting the DM needs at the moment.

But mostly I just enjoy adding them as a big "?" element on the map. Something no-one has an idea about, everyone has an opinion about, and the ones who have witnessed them are shit-scared of. Kinda like UFO's are to us at the moment.

... say, how 'bout illithids scooting about in disc-shaped spelljammers, mutilating cows and kidnapping surface dwellers for snacking and rape?

>>7769175
How sinister... I love it. And the drugs can be used as a religious aid as well. They do believe in crazy turtle earth, afterall.

>>7769175
hobgoblins control the mind altering herbs, they supply the halfling voo doo priests

>>7769180
I just thought your version drew too much from shadow of the colossus, so I attempted to make it more original.

>>7769125
The Residing regent would be a Demilich. The Pelvis of the politician and ladies man, Jackamoore Jim.

This awesome shit should get published.

>>7769193
Yes. The Leader of a powerful family, a powerful pelvis.

>>7769180
>living, walking, ultra-mysterious dungeons that can fill any role and gap in the history and cosmology of the setting the DM needs at the moment.

Which is why I don't like them.

>>7768697

I see that fucking Pac-Man over there. Don't think that went unnoticed, map maker.

>>7769193
I'm not sure I like DEMILich, but liches for sure. Gives Godfather a whole new meaning.

A Godfather is the leader of a family of halflings. These are always some variant of lich. A leader of a halfling settlement is called a Pelvis.

Depending on the situation, these positions may naturally conflict.

>>7769193
Not a true regent of course, but a leader of the most powerful family.

Halflings also trade the goblins for the bubbles they gain from the gnoll/elves, which get them from the gnomes. These bubbles make excellent phylacteries, and other regents in spellweaving.

This has been archieved already, right?

>>7769209
... huh. Fantasy without mystery and flexibility is like 4E character builds without touhou images. :3

>>7769302
How about origionality though? You took the idea for the colossi from the game and barely changed anything as far as I could tell. They were transformed into Golems, beings of the living rock.

I updated the map.

>>7769316
Looks about right, well done.

>>7769293
Nope, someone should do so.

Also. this one is archived as well.

>>7769302
Keep it civil plz. This is the best example of /tg/ getting shit done all year

this is a southern burrowing Jhellum. highly poisonous.

>>7769339
Well, don't worry, we've got eleven months to get back up to speed.

>>7769338
Not very well though, the links barely link it in the same group as the first one. Ah well, still good to have it archieved.

I say next we should work on the trolls, and the hobogolbins.

What about this happy chap? I'm thinking he's an old human legend who devours whole tribes and such. Failing that he has a fucking balloon and eat's dorfs

>>7769339
I apologize, other person I was in an internet fight with. We shouldn't fight. There still is mystery. I considered that the golems are remenants of the lost human civilization, which took a life of their own after the fall. It wouldn't be widely known, however.

>>7769302
Mystery and flexibility is alright. It should be there. There are many examples of "X is unknown" or "It is unknown why" in the thread. But you shouldn't hand over some kind of godlike "A wizard did it".

"But.. why does it work that way? It doesn't make sense."
"JESUS WILLS IT!"
"But.."
"DON'T QUESTION JESUS, HERETIC!"

>>7769361
I was just thinking of that infact. Do we need a tarrasque in this world? If so, how would it be different? Perhaps it is a docile rock eater... meaning a natural foe of the golems, and everything that builds their houses of stone. And if we can work in tarrasquemas, at least as a legend, I would be well pleased.

Jungle troll's sounds awesome. Tribes of them using blow darts and poison to hunt dinosaurs

>>7769361
Ancient forgotten horror. Roams the ocean floor, but no-one actually knows this, except the Goblins. And the goblins fucking fear that shit.

Their plan is to strap baloons onto it in secrecy, and send it to the dwarves, who they rarely have contact with anyway.

>>7769388
OF COURSE!!! That's why they're nomads fucking tarresque's

>>7769388
Perhaps since the humans do not build their houses of stone, they see the tarrasque as a sign from their lost lord that they are on the correct path, one of self sustinence, and it is a punishment on those that would stray from the path.

So, kobolds are the humanoid descendant of dragons, who are rumored to still sleep in the deepest corners of the world. The kobolds are a mischiveous bunch, constantly playing tricks on each other as well as any outsider who dare enter their dungeon. They are basically a Kobolds Fortress, with your average fa/tg/uy controlling them.

In the beginning, when the world was young, a group of courageous kobold ventured outside their safe mountains, to see what the overworld had to offer. But back then, the swamps were still roaming with wild magic, which did strange things to these kobolds, making them lose more and more of their "noble" dragon traits, and giving them more of a "common" lizard look. Naturally, these newly formed "lizardfolk" were shunned by the kobolds, and the lizardmen had no choice but to stay on the outside, and adapt to a life in the swamp/jungle.

Today, the lizardfolk are ferocious hunters, masters with bow and arrow as well as sharp talons and teeth. Any who venture into the jungle in hopes of finding ancient koboldian ruins or other treasures must be on their guard, for a lizardman shoots first, and asks questions later.

>>7769402
I like the idea about the tarrasque on the sea floor. Instead of burrowing into the ground, it can live in the sea...godzilla style, until it emerges to feast on land rocks.

>>7769423
The lizardfolk and trolls are at constant war for territory. On the other hand, we could have the tribed getting along, with the trolls living in the trees up high, and the lizards down below. Or always a bit of both.

>>7769427
Would the Goblins worship him as a god of some sort or are they a bit to advanced for that seeing as they have underwater G.I. Joe bases

>>7769452
They are a superstisious bunch. They might see him as the avatar of the world turtle, given shape. Something to be feared and respected, much like the planet itself.

>>7769352
so the hobgoblins have a strong link to nature, and by that i mean they are hippies. They live communally, and are slow to anger. that is until their homes are threatend.

at war, the hobgoblins make free use of a multitude of narcotics, and their Oxen are likewise dosed into a killing frenzy.

Hobgoblins prefer to use mattocks in battle, and go lightly armoured.

>>7769448
Troll's eat lizardmens dinosaurs? Also troll ewoks

>>7769463
Hobgoblins are scottish/hippies?

>>7769469
Trolls are long and lanky and rubbery though, with a third arm/tail thing. Kinda like monster gorilla tree monkeys.

>>7769481
Yes... Berserkers come from the hobgoblins, high on their spiritual beliefs... and the powerful drugs their groups use.

>>7769369
Of course I should! I wouldn't be as incompetent about it as to bully my players into not asking about it as in your example though, but rather I'd fill the blanks by myself, at the very least with convenient but more fulfilling, compelling reasons why answers to their origins aren't available.

Fluffing out the "what, why, and by whom" of said creatures isn't even possible at this point, what with the prehistory and the nature of the ancient civilizations still being nothing more than being the subject of vague gesticulation. The differing opinions of their possibilities I describe in >>7769107 are more or less just possible roots for defining them, with any number of other ideas applicable according to how the setting's history and cosmology eventually molds out. There's more potential to it than "we live in the mountains, eat rocks, and poop giants". Heck, they could even be mirages by sailors suffering dehydration and mountaineers with mountain sickness. They're legends, bedtime stories and fairytales useful for setting mood and giving the world dimension first, not loot-me cash-cow high level encounters.

>>7769452
No, I think they're just scared shitless of him.

As mentioned earlier, Goblins are generally non-religious, but are secretly ruled by dark cults (think Chtulhu).

>>7769490
Perhaps have them have a bit of an animalistic, nature worship then? That's a good religion that isn't taken yet.

Also, goblins should have a caste system.

>>7769481

They can take our life, but they can never take...uh, dude, I like, man, dunno. What were we talking about?

>>7769481
yes, but with a African tribal mask theme

>>7769513
yes, that sounds good. No voodoo though, that's the halflings thing. They are more druidic, perhaps?

>>7769513
I kind of wanted the troll's to have a tribal mask theme............

>>7769499
Yes, sorry, I forgot about the goblin specifics. It is very late (early) here and a lot had been discussed.

>>7769528
Alrighty then, they can have the tribal masks, wooden tribal mask things, while the hobgoblins can instead use facepaint mixed with their herbs that give them strength, especially for their beserkers.

>>7769509
And everyone's named by some variation of "Jimmy". Whenever there's a hobgoblin party, the most common way of crashing it without being questioned is to say "Jimmy invited me". Also, they invent horrible snacks for their drug-induced bouts of hunger. Worst examples being deep-fried sheep gullet stuffed with chocolate and raisins.

>>7769502
>>7769518

the spirits they worship are nature spirits. each adult undergoes a spiritual quest, and receives a nature totem. the new adult must make a mask from the wood of a sacred grove of trees that represents their totem. allowing someone to see your adult face brings shame. ones mate may look upon ones face.

>>7769542
Sounds good (the idea, not the food)
Also, they are ritualistic cannibals, partaking in flesh of defeated foes to gain strength and wisdom from them, as well as give their spirit peace.

>>7769550
Good idea! and the face paint on the beserkers can be because they are "already dead", their beserker rage drives them to fight until they fall.

>>7769553
... it was actually word to word a joke about Scottish people. John, Joe, James, Jamie, Jerry, Jake - just about every J-initial name is perverted to "Jimmy" at some point. And the food? Just a generalizing cross of Scotsmen's dear ol' haggis and deep-fried mars bar.

No, really. They deep fry mars bars. Imagine it.

>>7769567
I meant the weird food idea, not the specifics. Partaking in ritual cannibalism is pretty weird. And they trade for other oddities should their hunger drive them for them.

And human nomads use some form of proto-tarrasque as their valued beast of burden.

These things are NOT called tarrasque, but simply tarrs. Twenty feet tall, thirty wide and fifty long, they move on all fours and can carry three fourths of an average tribe, with the rest tagging along as scouts.

The docile tarrs have sturdy spines along both sides of it's wide back, if removed they slowly grow back. This, along with glass, is the main resource of the humans.

The tarrs mainly eat sand, or rather, the microbiota in it, during travels constantly gulping down and excreting tonnes each day.

Because of this, the larger tribes leave behind them clearly defined 'wake', while the smaller tribes are careful to have their scouts wipe this wake down so as not to be easily traced.

There ARE colossi in the world(no, I'm not that guy). Great hulking monstrosities easily five hundred feet tall, all of them fallen and broken where they once stood. These were once used by humans as mobile fortresses, which are now inanimate as the power of Ookluke abandoned them. All are looted bare of anything valuable, and the few that are on the desert are mostly covered by sand, some lying in coastal waters while others that had walked the mountains have smashed to pieces when they fell down.

Sometimes, maybe once or twice a year, the eyes of a few of these colossi shine with bright blue light for one night, visible for tens of miles around, only to darken again come morning.

So, to recap:
Hobgoblins are Scottish hippy berserkers, who worships animal spirits, and practice cannibalism, take huge amounts of drugs, everyone is named "something like Jimmy", and they use voodoo-like (but not actually voodoo) headdresses?

That's.. GENIUS!

>>7769590
See? This works. Good job. Perhaps the sand they excrete is used in some of the humans glassmaking, as it is refined and purified.

>>7769601
>That is... GENIUS

This entire thread and the other one? I agree.

>>7769590
Not a fan.

I like the idea of Tarrs as human beasts of burden, but not the idea of Collosi or using Tarrs to carry entire tribes.

I'd make Tarrs something like a huge Oxen, and skip the Collosi idea entirely.

If anyone is good with making up fantastical names and such, or even bette, set up naming standards for each race to better characterize them, that would be wonderful. I'm good at world building, but terrible at naming and such.

>>7769539
Hmmm makes sense, for a male troll to be considered a man he needs a mask and to get the wood for it they have to travel onto the jungle floor by themselves. Doe's /tg/ approve?

>>7769604
Ah, yeah, I was going to put something like that in there but forgot it while imagining the tarr-beasts.

>>7769618
They can be more like very large oxen. Rather than riding them, you hitch a seld like structure, and have them drag it along. Similar to what the native americans did with sled dogs.

>>7769604
Humans are not the glassmakers, the non-nomad races are, like the Orcs or the Goblins. Or even the Kobolds, if they happen to live anywhere else than on huge piles of refuse.

>>7769629
Wouldn't they be more like camels if we're going with the desert theme

>>7769629
Yes, exactly. That'd be great. They're like an oversized mix between oxen and camels. That eat sand.

>>7769636
>>7769638
Camelmind

>>7769623
ahh, even better... what about the hobgoblins then?

How about they use feathered headdresses instead, and instead of facepaint, it is a tatoo, in the design of their spiritual animal/being. The Beserker paint is still used, painted over their normal identity mask, as they have become fully the warrior, abandoning who they were.

>>7769638
there are many many breeds of oxen here

>>7769623
Not sure if I like the idea of trolls being civilized like that at all. Previous discussion suggested that they'd be pretty animalistic, snatching people to be eaten straight up into their trees.

I get more of a "ugly, regenerating, three-armed, flesh-eating ape"-vibe from the trolls than any real social structure.

>>7769655
This is describing their use, I believe. They are actually more like minitarrasques in appearance and habit.

>>7769657
More like the ogres? How about we have them be more civilized than ogres, but less so than normal beings.

>>7769630
see>>7768714
>>7768736
>>7768740
>>7768744
>>7768770
>>7768781
>>7768790

>>7769666
>>7769666

no, its cool it was said earlier that breeds of Oxen exist instead of horses. they have diversified greatly

>>7769647
I love it. Once they become adults and have recieved their totem, they recieve tattoos over their faces. Warriors still paint themselves to accentuate their totem or their role in battle, through an intricate number of distinctive patterns.

A hobgoblin can discern the totem, clan, social rank and military rank and position of another hobgobling, simply by looking at his tattoo and facial paint.

Facial paint is only used by warriors.

>>7769647
Fuck yes that is awesome. So what next troll's or lizardmen?

>>7769657
Trolls are seen as animals by other cultures, and hunted for their valuable bones, which repair themselves, once shaped. Their skin and flesh however immediatly rots away, unless special preservation methods are immediatly used. They reproduce by three of them removing their third arm/tail, which will eventually regrow, and combining them together. These three arms eventually grow into one troll, which has traits of all three of it's "parents".

>>7769681
Read the whole thread, not just the parts that appeal to your suggestion.

>>7769708
They do make glass, it was decided in the end. Don't worry about it though.

Was this thread archived? I just want to make sure it's kept archived.

>>7769725
It is. Now let's keep at it to make sure it deserves the honor!

>>7769721
Nope, humans don't make glass. It wouldn't make sense for them, since they're constantly on the move. They'd have to settle down to have "mirror farms", furnances and workshops to make glass. Humans primarily rely on bones and the like, or wood for those rich enough to afford it (Wood is an exceedingly rare commodity).

>>7769693
facepaint is worn only by adults. no use having a complex identification system if only one cast uses it!

>>7769703
So they have arm penis?

>>7769738
Yes glass, created by the high ranking sorcs in the tribes. Also, it was agreed as a compromise that some humans are more nomadic than others. Not all humans make glass, but some do.

>>7769746
Arm penis that grows into another person, it seems.

>>7769746
Any of the arms would do, I suppose, but it is traditional to use the third arm in order to make a true troll. Sort of like a starfish, except it takes three arms.

>>7769748
Wrong. The only thing that was right in there was that they have Sorcs (rare, but they're there).

>>7769741
It does if everyone is a warrior/farmer. I thought we where going with all peace and love brah style hobgoblins but then when they go to war it's a bunch of wode'd up freaks

>>7769748
Haha, oh wow.

No.

>>7769772
Glass is made by heating sand perhaps the tarr's have a furnace in there gut. So they eat sand and poop glass beads that can then be shaped while still hot

>>7769618
In my mind they are something like a cross between the Dune sandworms(ecological role), the Tatooine lizards and the LoTR Oliphaunts.

They don't move fast, a walking human easily keeping pace, their hides are armored, but not 'Rasque tough. An arrow doesn't penetrate the flanks deep enough to hurt it, but a ballista bolt does. Aim for the head or the joints to bring it down.

The Tarr's teeth are almost diamond hard to keep from wearing down too fast. As the sand goes through, some of it gets ground down to dust and this is used in the glassmaking for the finest of crafts.

A tarr lives for about 75 years, during which it produces three or four young ones the size of a very large oxen. A tarr is mature enough to carry people and their stuff when it hits twenty years old.

A tarr approaching the end of his life usually has it's burden given to younger beasts, but kept in the caravan until it can no longer move.

At this point the tribe camps down for the night. During the night, the tarr is offered herbs to deaden the pain and fresh vegetable matter, if available, is given to it. The whole tribe will stay awake through the night.

As the sun gives it's first rays, before the great beast wakes, the Elder of the tribe will use a specially fashioned spear to strike through the skull, driving into the brain. After this, the tribe will spend a few days stripping the carcass, preparing the meat, hides, tendons and such, before continuing their journey.

For a month after the eldest beast of a tribe has died, all the members wear blue cheche instead of the customary white, indicating the occasion. Any raiders will leave the tribe alone and vendettas are put to rest for this month.

>>7769792
Yes, that works.

>>7769741

I'm with >>7769773
Normal people could have the tattoos, for all their normal things. Your social rank, function, totem and clan.

The facepaint would be for warriors or when people were at war, to ADD to the tattoos such things as position, military rank, number of kills, etc.

How does that sound?

>>7769795
Good. And with drugs mixxed into the paint, things are very fitting for these people.

Now that we have poop glass,tarr's and hobgob's sorted. What's this about three way troll arm wrestling to make a baby?

>>7769773

so what if they had facial tattoos, and these tattoos were actually an interface for reacting with the narcotic face paints? each person in the tribe has almost the same pattern. when the paint is put on, in varying patterns that complete and augment the tattoos. almost all adults would wear some paints, if only for a bit of a high. mothers might wear paint that strengthens her bond with her unborn child. a tattoo master might waer paint to steady his hand.

>>7769803
Drugs? There's drugs everywhere with these guys.

You are now imagining a facepainted Hobgoblin hopped up on meth.

>>7769810
What a lovely way to put it. I personally was trying t describe more of their nature, similar to how ogres were described. I was origionally going to have only two parents come together, the arms they remove from themselves grow together and eventually form another troll. I added a third in to make the whole process more interesting and alien. Plus, it fits to have three arms for the three armed creature. The baby troll is the flesh from the other trolls that "regenerated" together into a brand new troll. That's how I see it.

>>7769818

now that i read your post some variation based on totem would be good actually.

>>7769818
That's an interesting idea... such skill, more than we thought to them. They are surprisingly deep people. The berserker still should have their face completely painted over I say though.

>>7769818
Tattoo ink is under the skin, the narcotics would still be abosorbed. Also they would cover the whole of their body im guessing. Like putting on a suit of armour but with paint and no actual protection.

>>7769837
>>7769836

oh hell yeah, they will fuck your shit up if you mess with them.

Actually, I've decided to dig the whole glass deal, when combined with the Tarr oxen/camel glass-pooping.

It could explain just exactly why the Tarrs are considered so valuable to the humans, apart from it's obvious uses as beasts of burden.

To balance it out, I'd say that a Tarr only poops once a week, and not in considerable quantities. We don't want every tribe running around fully decked-out in glass armor and glass-huts and glass-whatevers. Only rich people get stuff made from the glass, and it's mostly used for trading.

>>7769836
Yes. Berserkers have no rank. They have no social status. They have no totem. The facial paint they wear is completely smeared over their faces and their bodies, a mix of Meth and LSD.

>>7769837

its a magic ink. it enhances the narcotics, and activates the inherent magi of the paint

>>7769826
As weird as this is I like it. Mating should be seasonal and by everyone seeing as 3=1 when it come's to babies. I like the idea of the 3 parents but the arm need something to hold them together so that a baby troll body can grow.

>>7769850
Also explains why human's don't leave the desert, because the tarr's don't eat anything else

>>7769869
Perhaps a paste, made of poisonous materials found in the swamp? In the heavy regeneration process, the troll becomes immune to the toxins, and the paste is used to simply give the arms something to connect to while they grow.

What are sergals in this setting, again? I didn't see them mentioned.

>>7769885
Excellent perception, there. +1

>>7769896
Haha... I don't even know if they are in it. If they are, they live in the same biome as the golems, the rough lands on the bad side of the stormshadow mountains.

>>7769896
Sergals?

Sergals are just.. no.
It was settled in the first thread.

Just.. no.

>>7769904
Sergals.

We had them in almost all of our previous high fantasy settings, this should be no different.

>>7769902
They're in morality stories, about what happens when playing god goes horribly horribly wrong

>>7769914
Hurrah!

>>7769914
It wasn't.

Ctrl+F "Sergals".

Heck, Ctrl+F "Furry".

Neither of the threads contain anything on the topic.

Why?

>>7769931
Because these are glorious, glorious threads.

>>7769935
They're glorious, yet you ignore one of the key assets of a /tg/ setting?

Sergals aren't in this setting if you would like use them, please play a different setting.

>>7769896
>>7769904
>>7769918
>>7769931
Sergals will be the same in this setting as it was in the others: that is, an attempt to ruin the thread and attract sagefaggotry.

I vote for moving on with firm recommendations for ignoring the whole "race".

huzza

>>7769931
You fail at reading. Why would you even search? If you haven't read the threads, you shouldn't be in this one to begin with. And if you have read them, you'd know. Check >>7768414

>>7769949
Ignore what?
Anyways, I think that halflings should at times hunt the trolls. They can use their necromatic knowledge to preserve the flesh and fat, the fat which can be traded to gnolls which is passed on to gnomes. The mix of natural regeneration and necromatic magic makes a very very useful fat, as it can be used to make a low quality bubble, yet one that is very resiliant and remends itself. Useful in a variety of circumstances, such as fuel for their bubble ships.

>>7769931
>>7769967
Three posts was all it took. Case closed.

>>7769967
>If you haven't read the threads, you shouldn't be in this one to begin with.
You should be careful, a couple more typos and that would say "Please shit up the next thread about our precious snowflake setting".

Halflings in the swamp, trolls in the jungle, different places. Come to think of it what connects all the races together. There isn't any major common race going on here there is no reason for anyone to go anywhere.

Also! Halflings ride alligators. This is very important, as it was established in the first post. I think these alligators should shed their skin like snakes, which is then used in a variety of goods such as leather, or in necromatic magics, where the skin itself can be reanimated into a kind of alligator skin flesh golem.

>>7769988
Check out the maps that were drawn. Halflings are in the swamps, near the jungle. Thus, they are a prime subject to venture into them. It is risky, but the rewards can be worth it.

>>7769982
>Internet tough guy

>>7769988
What do you mean, "commen race"? They don't all get along, but they all have connections, in some way or another.

>>7769943
But sergals are a core part of every /tg/ setting.

It isn't /tg/ without them.

>>7769989
For extra macabre, anyone remember those stories of alligators being capable of living for the better part of an hour after being shot through the brain?

Perhaps the halflings would just replace the brain of these alligators with necromantically grown or altered replacements that can take simple orders relating to direction, speed, and eating things that get in the way.

>>7769989
Couldn't they just farm giant snakes?

>>7770016
Haha, I like it! They still have normal alligators, of course, which they treat as pets like we treat dogs and cats. However for the real work, they use the necromatic alligator skin brain hybrid abomination. Which they still coo over like a kitten, because halfings are an odd, jolly sort.

>>7770011
I just re-read some stuff the web of trade is clear to me now

>>7770030
Giant snakes are harder to ride on. They could still do that, of course. Poisonous ones. When served, just the right amount of poison is mixed in to ensure the right tingly flavor. It is often used as a way to get rid of members of rival houses while still maintaining the illusion of civility. A little too much of the poison in the steak, and suddenly more than the steak is welldone.

the is a vast dark citadel in the east. within resides a scourge of life. Dharian is a celestial who sees life on this world as a plague and an affront to goodness. It 'recruits' the most vile creatures it can find, mates with them and trains his children in a dark legion. they are many. cruel and hateful corrupt creatures, enhanced by the powers of righteousness murmmers from the cititdel indicate that something is afoot. soon they will fly forth on golden wings to annihilate any without the seed of goodness.

>>7770034
Plus alligators are big, and halflings small, so the lobotomized alligators would serve well as mobile swamp picnic platforms or verandas when not used for heavy labor.

Perhaps someone could stat a setting-specific sub-species of alligator that's, unlike their voracious real-world counterparts, very social and tameable.

... er, say, we haven't touched mechanics of the game at all yet, have we?

>>7770055
err... mechanics?
That reminds me, I have to get to class pretty soon...

>>7770046
it is? good, explain it to me.

I jest of course, I actually enjoy how complicated and byzantine it can be at times, similar to the real world.

Since we're nearing autosage on this thread, someone could put up another one... perhaps we should pick a general theme for the next thread to put in the title. A guideline, or such. How about mythology and religion? Perhaps make religion more dynamic and real-world-like in that gods are more difficult to interpret and define, but include divine spellcasting resulting from faith and dedication as per divine caster classes as usual?

>>7770078
Sounds pretty good... we already covered much of the basics of each races belief system and how it is based, but a little more detail couldn't hurt. The whole belief system is discussed more in the first thread, although hobgoblins are talked bout here.

>>7770055
Giant Space Hamsters, that's where this is going.

>>7770055
scisors paper rock for everything except magic.

'ive got you nose' mechanic for magic.

>>7770093
What's I got your nose?

>>7770055
I am suddenly imagining a bizarre swamp-london, where alligator cabbies zoom to and fro in the perpetual fog, ranging from scruffy loadbearers or "buses" with cargo holds or cramped passenger compartments on their backs and drivers sitting on benches set on the beast's necks, to fine two-alligator cabriolets and the like.

That, of course, fits the fluff of voodoo redneck necrohalflings like perfume on meatballs, so take it as nothing but a laugh.

>>7770051
hell yes!

Is there a common currency?

>>7769982
Eat shit and die in a fire.

>>7770016
Undead alligator golems. I like it. I like it a lot.

I like the idea of the Teegeeian alligators shedding their skins, like snakes. It makes them still alligators, but different.

>>7770106
Hell no. We don't even know who that guy is yet. It sounds like it would be a good start for a campaign, but not as fluff.

>>7770097
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I've_got_your_nose

>>7770105
I like where this is going the tophat fit's fucking perfect. EVERYONE IS BARON SAMEDI

>>7770117
>the same, but different

You have just summed up the entirety of the setting, congrats.

>>7770121

i came up with the initial hobgoblin ideas and the oxen

>>7770114
Barter? Goods and services according to need, with internal currencies in the more developed societies? Trade value of different currencies should be handled in the medieval fashion, according to purity and amount of the metal in the coin.

>>7770078
There are no general gods, so far. Every race so far has their entirely seperate religion, with only minor overlapping in some cases.

I don't think we should have any "real" gods, at all. Divine magic being faith-based ("I believe it, therefore it happens") was settled in the first thread, I think. :|

>>7770136
Glass poop was mine also a bit of the troll sex. Most productive day of my life

>>7770136
WE came up with it. Most of us are anonymous here, every idea is everyone's idea. Congrats anyways though, keep up the good work!

Different goods are worth different amounts to different areas too. Selling ogre fat to say, the humans wouldn't get you tarr shit... selling it to the gnomes would get you a great deal indeed.

>>7770145
Barter. I don't think the societies we have developed will have internal, let alone external, currency.

I can see the dwarves, elves, goblins, gnolls and MAYBE kobolds having their own internal currencies.

>>7770174
Tarr shit is high quality glass. Also where the fuck is the new thread

anyway i want to make these guys a world power.
>>7770051

>>7770179
I can see the halflings too, after having fleshed them out a bit. They have actually become a pretty important trade group, for such a xenophobic bunch. They aren't as big into trade as the gnolls, but still pretty big. The gnome... actually, you're right, since they have a bit of a hivemind, I can see them as not actually needing true currency internally.

>>7770188
i mean at least a regional power

>>7770200
But what ARE they? we need more than some shadowy cabal. Everything else is getting pretty well fleshed out. Some groups even have legends that have been passed down (My personal favorite is the orc legend).
>>7770183
I was actually thinking about that when I said tarr shit, as a kind of double joke.

So, what should the new thread be about, since it doesn't seem to be made yet?

>>7770188
>>7770200
>>7770223
Sounds more like a regional dungeon of some kind. A local threat.

I'm kind of worried, I have to go off to classes pretty soon, so I won't get to play a big part in the next thread. It's kinda like watching my baby grow up, not needing me anymore, yet I still worry. Stay safe, little one!

>>7770236
Make sure that this is archived and updated, make a thread on "Local regions, dungeons and minutia" or something.

Suggestions for "There is a fort of X at Y" or "This region is made of fish" or something like that.

>>7770236
World history and more on racial relations. Also the moon fairies

>>7770259
good idea. Religion can be brought up too, but I agree with what you say. Make it so! make the thread!

>>7770256
And I must go shit and then eat. After being here for 8 hours I'm scared to leave the computer. D:

>>7770265
I know! At least we still will have these two threads to rebuild from, if worst comes to worst. This stuff should go in 1d4chan. I don't normally actually play DnD much (my dark secret) but I have always been very interested in the setting. This stuff is so great, i might just take it up for a chance to play it.

>>7770223

i see what you mean. lets make them a foot note for now. WARNING: DEMENTED CELESTIAL BENT ON DESTROYING SENTIENT LIFE WITH HIS MONSTROUS PROGENY. EXIST WITH CAUTION.

they would be monters of all types, made intelligent and wrathful and powerful. they are completly fanatical and worship the celestial as a father/mother God, who will give life to the new inhabitants of the world when they fulfill their purpose.

>>7770263
Also, if possible, some names for things. Towns, religious beliefs, animals, cultural ideas, landmarks, points of interest. Some names would really help set these things apart. Different races or cultures could have two different names for the same thing in fact!

>>7770300

New thread

>>7770288
Makes me think of the darkspawn from Dragon age. Twisted versions of other races. We could bring this up, as to how these races are twisted. My personal suggestion? The gnomes become more illithid like when twisted, since they are the mind power ones already in this world, what with their unconcious connection and group dreaming and such.